The Tucker Carlson Show - Willie Robertson： The Unlikely Origin of Duck Dynasty, Willie’s New Show, & Why Trump Won

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00:00:31.500 Yeah, I was on The Five.

00:00:32.960 I remember, no, I was on Over, what do they call it?

00:00:35.780 What was the one with the women and Outnumbered?

00:00:40.280 And I was up there.

00:00:41.340 They used to bring me up there all the time because Doug and I was just so popular.

00:00:45.040 With our viewers, it was popular.

00:00:46.620 Yeah, and the girls, the girls on that show, they were laughing.

00:00:50.320 And they said, oh, this guy, Donald Trump, you know, says he's running for president and all that.

00:00:54.460 And they're laughing and they're kind of, you know, making it like it's a joke.

00:00:59.840 And they came and they said, what say you, Willie?

00:01:02.740 And I said, tell you what, I think he's resonating with a lot of people.

00:01:05.860 And you could just see him like, oh.

00:01:08.720 Like they thought I was going to laugh and be joking.

00:01:10.600 I said, don't underestimate the power of celebrity because I was like, I'm just new to it.

00:01:16.300 But man, when everybody knows who you are, it's a big advantage because the thing about Kamala Harris,

00:01:23.500 she was a vice president for three and a half years.

00:01:25.340 No one knew how to say her name.

00:01:27.180 Including her.

00:01:28.140 And she was the vice president.

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00:01:58.440 Here's the episode.

00:01:59.900 When they got elected or whatever it was in 2020, I totally by accident, I pronounced,

00:02:05.580 I called her Kamala.

00:02:07.680 Yeah.

00:02:08.440 Which is what I thought her name was.

00:02:10.120 And the White House press secretary attacked me as racist.

00:02:14.840 Which, okay, fine.

00:02:16.080 But it really was, I would admit it, it was totally accidental.

00:02:19.480 Right.

00:02:20.380 And so this kid on our staff found tape of her calling herself Kamala and then Kamala.

00:02:27.220 And I just thought, like,

00:02:28.320 who can't pronounce her own first name?

00:02:31.360 Yeah, that's...

00:02:31.900 If you were like, I'm Willie Robertson, I'm Will A. Robertson.

00:02:35.200 You know what I mean?

00:02:36.040 It would be kind of weird, right?

00:02:38.200 Hello, I'm Wiley Robertson.

00:02:39.700 No, I mean, I think it's fair to, like, settle on a pronunciation of your own first name.

00:02:44.220 So one of the things I was, I've never hunted with you before, you've become famous for bird hunting.

00:02:52.500 You're an excellent shot.

00:02:53.560 I just want to confirm that for people watching.

00:02:55.600 Oh, man.

00:02:55.960 It's not fake.

00:02:56.680 I've got to make my dad and brothers watch this.

00:03:00.920 It's true.

00:03:01.500 So that they know that.

00:03:02.300 No, it's true.

00:03:02.880 You are.

00:03:04.040 But you're not, you become famous from television.

00:03:08.280 You've, I just want to get right to it.

00:03:10.200 You've written this book, Gosspeller, which is not about hunting.

00:03:15.900 It's, eh, kind of.

00:03:17.560 What's it about?

00:03:18.020 Hunting for people.

00:03:19.560 Hunting for people.

00:03:20.020 Fishing for people, perhaps.

00:03:21.620 Turning darkness into light one conversation at a time.

00:03:24.740 Yeah, that's, came up with this book this year.

00:03:27.440 And this was kind of the one I wanted to write.

00:03:30.580 You know, it was like, before I die, I want to write this book.

00:03:33.560 And it's really about my faith, the faith that was passed down, the first chapters, my mom and dad's story about how they got their faith.

00:03:43.900 We put out a movie last year called The Blonde, which was their journey in faith, shot in the late 60s, 70s.

00:03:53.380 And that was a bad, he was a bad guy.

00:03:56.380 And in what way?

00:03:57.940 Oh, he's just, well, he called himself a heathen.

00:04:01.180 He was just a bad dude, you know, just into everything he shouldn't have been into.

00:04:06.040 He's married, he's got this young family, he's drunk all the time, he loses his job, he ends up running a bar, and all hope literally was over.

00:04:18.100 He had kicked us out of the home.

00:04:19.720 He's a bad dad, he's a bad husband.

00:04:22.640 What do you mean he kicked you out of the home?

00:04:24.140 He kicked mom and us out of the house, or out of the trailer.

00:04:27.560 Really?

00:04:27.840 Yeah, and so, and the one person who didn't give up on him was my aunt, Jan, his younger sister, and she'd go up to this bar he was running.

00:04:41.180 Dad has like a master's degree, could have went professional, quarterback.

00:04:47.060 He played ahead of Bradshaw in college at Louisiana Tech, gifted athlete, had everything, you know, ahead of him and just pretty much throws it all away.

00:04:55.840 And so, my aunt would go up there and pass out a little Bible track.

00:05:01.160 She was a very charismatic Christian, and he hated it, you know.

00:05:05.940 He was like, stay out of here.

00:05:07.580 And she begged this preacher to go preach the gospel to her brother.

00:05:13.520 And I write in the book, I can just imagine this conversation, like, because the preacher's in Louisiana, the bar's in Arkansas.

00:05:20.980 And I'm sure it was like, can you share the gospel with my brother?

00:05:25.060 He's wayward, and he probably was like, yeah, tell him to come to church.

00:05:29.280 We'll meet after.

00:05:30.280 He's not coming to church, and you'll have to go see him.

00:05:33.340 What does he do?

00:05:33.800 He runs a bar.

00:05:35.020 In Arkansas.

00:05:35.740 Yeah, which one in town?

00:05:36.920 It's not even in the state, you know.

00:05:39.440 And this guy gets in his car and drives to a bar, walks in.

00:05:43.580 Where was the bar?

00:05:44.180 With his Bible.

00:05:45.300 It was in Junction City, Arkansas.

00:05:47.060 And it was rough.

00:05:49.460 You know, it was a rough, rough spot.

00:05:50.060 Yeah, that goes that sad.

00:05:52.500 And it was adversarial.

00:05:54.280 Like, the guy goes in.

00:05:55.740 Phil does not want to hear.

00:05:56.640 He's not even invited in there.

00:05:59.660 And I knew the preacher up until he passed away.

00:06:03.080 And he says, your dad's sitting there.

00:06:07.140 He said, he's got a pistol in his belt and a giant Budweiser.

00:06:10.380 And he's about half lit.

00:06:12.440 And the dad looks at him and says, what you selling, preacher man?

00:06:16.160 And so the guy sits down.

00:06:18.320 And nothing happens.

00:06:19.340 Phil doesn't.

00:06:20.040 There's no conversion.

00:06:21.460 There's no just-as-I-am bar baptism.

00:06:25.900 Phil just said, I'll keep that in mind.

00:06:27.880 And so he leaves.

00:06:28.760 And Phil's life even goes more in the tank.

00:06:31.640 He ends up, the state police showed up to arrest him.

00:06:35.460 He goes and lives in the woods for six months, I think.

00:06:38.540 Like, he was that guy.

00:06:40.620 What were they arresting him for?

00:06:42.040 He had put two people in ICU, beat them up over a bar dispute.

00:06:47.960 And he just takes off.

00:06:49.480 Lives in the woods.

00:06:51.380 Says, I'm on my own.

00:06:52.920 And out there is when he got really sick.

00:06:57.060 And nobody, you know, everybody was trying to figure out where he was.

00:06:59.880 But he was literally-

00:07:00.320 He's got a wife and kids at this point, too.

00:07:01.860 Well, then they let mom end up moving to-

00:07:04.500 They moved to Louisiana.

00:07:05.620 And we're pretty much like, I hope he doesn't die.

00:07:08.780 You know, but it's over.

00:07:09.500 You know, he's already kicked us out.

00:07:11.640 And then he comes dragging back up into that town.

00:07:16.000 And he pulls up to where my mom was working.

00:07:18.540 She has a new job and trying to move on with her life.

00:07:21.220 And she's like, call the police.

00:07:23.880 Like, oh, no.

00:07:24.940 He's, you know, he's living in the woods.

00:07:29.040 And he pulls up and he's crying.

00:07:31.280 He said, where's that preacher?

00:07:32.600 I need to talk to him.

00:07:34.080 And that's when Phil became a believer right there.

00:07:37.020 So that's the first chapter in the book.

00:07:38.700 So how long did it take your mom to take him back?

00:07:42.180 She took him right back.

00:07:44.040 It was amazing.

00:07:45.700 You know, I always said if it weren't for dad changing his life,

00:07:49.040 but also if it wasn't for mom forgiving him.

00:07:51.980 Yeah, it's easier to change your life than to forgive someone who's abandoned.

00:07:54.900 Especially when you're just saying it, yeah.

00:07:57.700 And who knows?

00:07:58.360 You know, I'm sure there probably wasn't the counseling that we had.

00:08:03.060 Yeah, no.

00:08:04.100 Yeah, but she needed help.

00:08:06.000 I mean, she's got three young boys and at the time three.

00:08:08.520 And I was the youngest at the time.

00:08:11.300 So in the movie I'm portrayed, I was very particular on who played me in the movie at two years old.

00:08:16.460 I mean, you got to get that part right.

00:08:17.860 Oh, yeah.

00:08:18.200 That's got to be a handsome toddler, wasn't it?

00:08:19.780 So it was my grandson played me.

00:08:23.020 My grandson played me about his great grandfather.

00:08:26.520 It was awesome.

00:08:27.740 That's fine.

00:08:28.220 It's fun to watch that movie.

00:08:30.140 It's a hard movie to watch.

00:08:32.080 And dad didn't even want to do it.

00:08:33.460 And it was tough for him to go back, you know, and relive that, you know, just pull all those.

00:08:39.500 But we said, dad and mom, too, both.

00:08:42.340 We just said, I think this can help a lot of people, you know, a lot of people who are in similar situations.

00:08:47.860 And so, yeah, they stayed together.

00:08:50.500 And so the first chapter of the book is that.

00:08:52.680 And so if you think about it like this, like 50 years ago that happened.

00:08:56.880 If that doesn't happen, this family does not stay together.

00:09:00.500 If the family doesn't stay together, there's no duck commander.

00:09:02.920 If there's no duck commander, there's no duck dynasty.

00:09:05.820 There's no podcast.

00:09:07.440 I don't know where I would be.

00:09:09.360 My whole life would look completely different.

00:09:11.960 And so part of the reason for us being still so excited about our faith is because we feel like we owe everything we have to our faith.

00:09:19.960 Had it not been for faith, it would have been over.

00:09:21.840 You know, marriage was over.

00:09:23.580 You know, who knows?

00:09:24.680 So, I mean, do you remember a time before your father was a Christian?

00:09:28.080 I don't.

00:09:28.740 Do your brothers?

00:09:29.880 They do.

00:09:30.800 They do.

00:09:31.360 I don't really.

00:09:32.920 Everything I remember was great.

00:09:35.620 And he went from, you know, darkness to light.

00:09:40.480 I mean, he literally, it's kind of like Saul and Paul in the Bible.

00:09:44.180 You know, it was like this old person, and then he just turned and just went, I mean, just full blaze.

00:09:50.000 And he just wanted to share the gospel with everybody he knew, you know.

00:09:53.240 Because I guess he had lived, and he said, I live so bad, now I've got to go help these people.

00:09:57.000 And so he became known.

00:09:58.480 He became a known gospeller, just known for preaching the gospel to everybody.

00:10:04.020 A gospeller is someone who preaches the gospel.

00:10:06.200 It is.

00:10:06.620 It's a real word.

00:10:08.440 It's an old word.

00:10:10.220 Have you ever heard of it?

00:10:10.900 No, never.

00:10:11.560 I've never heard of it either.

00:10:12.300 So I'm writing this book.

00:10:13.880 It's 2020, you know, COVID.

00:10:15.740 I was like, I want to write this book.

00:10:16.880 And so it was about sharing your faith.

00:10:19.860 And my wife, who's way smarter than I am, she comes in, because I couldn't figure out what to call it.

00:10:25.140 And she goes, Willie, I found this word.

00:10:27.060 It's called gospeller.

00:10:28.820 And it used to be very commonplace.

00:10:31.020 And it was not necessarily pastoral.

00:10:33.060 It was just like common folk who were just known for sharing the gospel.

00:10:37.240 And it simply means somebody who shares the gospel with people, either publicly or personally.

00:10:41.380 And it didn't fall short on me that the word is literally a dinosaur.

00:10:47.780 No one's ever heard of it.

00:10:49.240 But at one point in America, in Europe, this was a common word.

00:10:53.760 And they were called known gospellers.

00:10:55.740 I found a law.

00:10:57.080 I want to say it was up in the Northeast, where it was like, nobody can stop a priest or a known gospeller from preaching on the town square.

00:11:05.460 It was actually in a law.

00:11:06.960 Like, that word was in a law.

00:11:08.620 Amazing.

00:11:09.160 Isn't that cool?

00:11:09.520 Yeah, so she found the word.

00:11:10.940 So how did you grow up?

00:11:12.380 Like, did you grow up in a world where Christianity was at the center of everything?

00:11:15.400 Oh, yeah, for sure.

00:11:16.800 Number one.

00:11:18.080 Number one, no doubt about it.

00:11:20.720 So it wasn't like, oh, we should try to go to church.

00:11:25.480 It wasn't.

00:11:25.900 It was, you know, every.

00:11:28.520 And we had so many Bible studies that it just really went all week.

00:11:32.700 Like, because what happened, we would, once you're kind of known for that, so people would bring people down to the house for Phil to talk to.

00:11:42.000 And there was the most wayward people.

00:11:44.200 It was like murderers.

00:11:45.620 I mean, like the craziest people ever.

00:11:47.500 And I would just, and Dad would just go, no matter who they were, he would just sit there on the couch, and he'd feed them supper.

00:11:53.120 And then he would jump into the Bible and just, I mean, it was Fridays, Tuesdays.

00:11:58.460 Really?

00:11:59.020 All the time.

00:11:59.720 Yeah, all the time.

00:12:00.780 And then Dad started teaching Bible classes.

00:12:03.260 So he would teach his Bible class on Sunday mornings.

00:12:06.840 But he would just study like crazy, like just crazy person.

00:12:11.480 This, you know, and my father's never owned a computer.

00:12:14.060 He's never owned a cell phone.

00:12:16.280 He doesn't have a cell phone?

00:12:17.720 How do you text him?

00:12:19.700 You don't.

00:12:21.020 Just like saying that.

00:12:21.960 You go find him.

00:12:23.500 So I call, and I'm like, there's a dude.

00:12:26.980 There's a dude down there near.

00:12:28.760 So you call him, but you got to go find him.

00:12:30.600 And he's like in the woods, you know.

00:12:32.880 And you've got to, if you want to track him down, you got to go find him.

00:12:35.800 Does he still hunt?

00:12:37.240 Oh, yeah.

00:12:38.960 But it was, but yeah, then Dad would just read and study.

00:12:42.160 And, you know, he was just thirsting for knowledge.

00:12:45.760 You know, he loved the knowledge, but then he loved trying to share that.

00:12:48.980 And that's kind of the point of the book is, is turning darkness into like one conversation at a time.

00:12:54.300 And that, the tagline comes from, it's funny how my business mixed with my faith.

00:13:00.580 So we have some new products for deer.

00:13:04.660 And it's this feature where you can, you click a button.

00:13:07.680 So right at that time where it's real dark, you know, it's getting a little dim, still legal shooting hours.

00:13:12.400 And it just, boom, it just goes, turns it into, it's daylight.

00:13:16.380 It's crazy.

00:13:17.300 How?

00:13:17.580 What is it?

00:13:18.140 It's pulling light.

00:13:19.220 Whatever ambient light is, it's pulling in.

00:13:21.040 Right.

00:13:21.560 It's amazing.

00:13:22.720 So we had this new product.

00:13:23.680 So I'm looking at all the marketing material and they had on there, turned dark into light.

00:13:30.900 And when I saw that, I went, that's the tagline for my book, turning darkness into light, one conversation at a time.

00:13:36.700 So through a conversation, me, had the guy not gone and shared with that, you know, he was the one that actually planted the seed or shared with that.

00:13:45.140 And boom, that's where it started, just that conversation.

00:13:48.200 And then I watched, you know, hundreds and hundreds of other people just through a conversation lead to a life change.

00:13:54.760 And so what I wanted to do was go through the book and go through kind of how to do that.

00:14:00.440 Because a lot of people, they're so intimidated, they don't know what to say.

00:14:03.680 And they like the idea of it.

00:14:05.340 And they're like, well, I hope somebody tells somebody about their faith or about Jesus.

00:14:10.100 But it ain't me.

00:14:11.560 And I don't know how to do that.

00:14:12.560 I don't, it's like, I don't know where to start.

00:14:14.880 I don't know the Bible well enough.

00:14:16.220 And so we kind of disqualify ourselves from a lot of those, for a lot of those reasons.

00:14:21.120 And so I just tried to go through and tell stories.

00:14:24.060 And I'll pull stories from the New Testament, just conversations, like especially conversations, like especially in the book of Acts.

00:14:30.140 Like that's where you're really seeing kind of the church meet with the world.

00:14:33.940 And just pull the conversations like this is what they said, and this is how you could share with others.

00:14:39.360 So your family, despite living in a very rural area, you've got a duck call business, and you're seriously Christian, you wind up in television.

00:14:49.780 Yeah.

00:14:50.140 Which is like the opposite of all of that.

00:14:51.740 Yeah.

00:14:52.000 So how do you have the, so the crew comes in for wherever, you're meeting with the studio executives from wherever, but not from West Monroe, Louisiana.

00:15:01.100 No.

00:15:01.920 How do you begin a conversation about your faith with someone like that?

00:15:05.160 Well, it was obvious.

00:15:07.200 I mean, I think the faith just comes through in every, it was going to be hard to separate that, separate the faith.

00:15:12.220 And so, but I understood television enough to know that, you know, it can't just be a sermon, you know, it's got to, you know.

00:15:18.800 Right.

00:15:19.100 And we live our lives.

00:15:20.580 You're not saying the people who run television, I have noticed from spending a lifetime there, not super receptive to the message.

00:15:26.800 They weren't as, you know, a lot of people ask me that, like, we ended every show with a prayer.

00:15:34.040 And I almost get this, like, weekly, it's like, I bet they didn't want that prayer.

00:15:41.520 But that wasn't the case.

00:15:42.780 They were like, oh, that's cool, you know, like.

00:15:44.620 Good for them.

00:15:45.180 Yeah, it wasn't a battle at all.

00:15:47.720 It was just a good way to end the show.

00:15:49.140 They knew faith was important to us.

00:15:51.300 And that's how we ended every show, was with that prayer.

00:15:55.600 But there wasn't a lot of resistance at all from that.

00:16:01.400 But I think people, they thought that was the case or wanted to.

00:16:05.060 No, I love sharing that it's not.

00:16:06.800 Yeah, it really wasn't.

00:16:07.660 It was like, and then once it works and once it's.

00:16:10.480 Right.

00:16:11.560 Commerciality's the best.

00:16:12.380 It was the biggest show, you know, ever in reality TV.

00:16:15.160 They're just like, oh, we love that prayer.

00:16:16.900 You know, that was our idea.

00:16:18.120 No, no.

00:16:19.740 You know, it worked.

00:16:21.760 And so once we talked about how to do it.

00:16:23.580 And my father was, he was so funny with the show.

00:16:26.460 So when I went down to tell him, I said, dad, we, you know, got this idea of doing this

00:16:30.580 television show.

00:16:31.320 And he hated it.

00:16:32.080 He's like, I don't want to do it, you know.

00:16:33.900 And I said, well.

00:16:35.860 Where did the idea come from?

00:16:37.080 I said, it's a way to get the gospel out to more people.

00:16:39.900 And literally, that's what I told him.

00:16:42.240 And he sits in the chair and goes, hmm, I've never thought about that.

00:16:44.620 He goes, you think it can?

00:16:45.580 I said, I don't see why not.

00:16:47.720 He gives a thumbs up and he's like, all right, we'll do the TV show.

00:16:50.860 If it can get the gospel out to more people.

00:16:52.300 So you do a show like that, what are the mechanics of it?

00:16:54.820 Because it seems like it would take over your life completely.

00:16:57.760 It does.

00:16:58.740 So like, how does it work?

00:16:59.900 It's a lot of, well, we didn't know when we started.

00:17:02.840 Like, we had no idea.

00:17:04.660 I get a, I get an email.

00:17:07.980 This is, so we had done another television show on the Outdoor Channel.

00:17:12.220 And in the same way, like, it was my wife's idea.

00:17:18.100 Corey said, Corey watched reality television.

00:17:20.740 Is she from West Monroe?

00:17:22.000 She's from West Monroe as well.

00:17:23.220 She's from the city.

00:17:24.000 I'm from the state.

00:17:24.980 So she says, she's watching all this reality television.

00:17:29.820 And she said, Willie, I think, I think your family needs to have a reality TV show.

00:17:35.220 And I'm like.

00:17:35.900 That's not a compliment.

00:17:37.280 Well.

00:17:37.680 When your wife says your family needs a reality TV show.

00:17:40.160 Well, that's what I said.

00:17:41.680 I said.

00:17:42.260 That's usually an attack.

00:17:44.080 Well, that's why I didn't realize it.

00:17:45.800 And I said, Corey, we're just normal people.

00:17:48.780 And she goes, Willie, y'all ain't normal.

00:17:51.080 And so what?

00:17:52.140 She was like, you guys are like.

00:17:53.920 She goes, I've been with you for a long time.

00:17:56.420 Where'd you meet her, by the way?

00:17:58.420 Summer camp, fifth grade.

00:18:00.940 Wow.

00:18:01.440 Camp Chioka.

00:18:03.080 Camp Chioka.

00:18:03.840 Yeah, her, yeah, I saw her sitting on the swing.

00:18:07.280 So her grandfather and father were business guys, very successful business guys.

00:18:12.100 And part of their charity work, they had built this summer camp.

00:18:15.900 And so now that we're new believers, my parents are, that was a new thing.

00:18:21.180 Like, now we're going to church summer camp, you know.

00:18:24.420 And we'd never been to church summer camp.

00:18:26.500 And we couldn't even afford it.

00:18:28.260 So when we would pull up to the camp, my mother had no money.

00:18:31.420 And she would be, and so we would have our bags packed, like we're ready.

00:18:34.260 And she was like, all right, here's the deal.

00:18:35.720 Y'all stay here.

00:18:36.900 Let me go see if I can trade working in the kitchen for you guys to come.

00:18:40.960 If they say yes, you're in.

00:18:42.980 If they say no, we're going back to the house.

00:18:44.640 And we're just like, please say yes.

00:18:46.380 What's funny is, it was my wife's parents who were making the decision.

00:18:51.080 As it turns out in life, I later married their daughter, who ran the camp.

00:18:56.720 It was the same camp I was hoping to get into.

00:18:58.800 That's amazing.

00:19:00.240 So every time they said yes, and so we would go, and I see this girl.

00:19:05.000 She's on the swings.

00:19:05.820 I can see her to this day.

00:19:07.520 And she's got this big giant, you know, 1980s.

00:19:10.540 I'm like, who is that girl?

00:19:12.180 And they said, ah, it's Corey Howard, you know.

00:19:15.480 Her dad and them, they're the ones who run the camp.

00:19:18.420 And so I went over and talked to her.

00:19:20.120 I invited her on the Moonlight Hike.

00:19:21.500 And she said yes, and we went on the Moonlight Hike in fifth grade.

00:19:26.520 And we didn't keep dating.

00:19:27.880 We didn't get married that year, but we waited.

00:19:31.280 How old were you when you got married?

00:19:33.280 19, 18.

00:19:34.000 You were 19, she was 18?

00:19:36.540 Correct.

00:19:37.360 I proposed to her when she was 17, and I was 18.

00:19:40.680 What did her dad say?

00:19:42.020 He didn't like it.

00:19:43.220 I bet he didn't.

00:19:43.860 He didn't like the idea of that.

00:19:46.880 He wasn't a fan.

00:19:48.260 They were very well off.

00:19:51.160 They were, yeah, they lived in the neighborhoods.

00:19:55.400 And I pull up in this neighborhood, and I'm like, looking around.

00:19:59.260 It was like, mowed grass, you know.

00:20:01.660 They mowed their grass?

00:20:03.100 And sprinkler systems, you know.

00:20:04.600 I'm just like, whoa, man, this is crazy.

00:20:07.500 I'm looking around, and there's not one visible burn pile anywhere.

00:20:12.280 And I'm going like, what do these people do with their garbage?

00:20:18.260 I didn't know there was another plane.

00:20:25.680 So we're going to have the talk, right?

00:20:27.580 So he's like, and I know that.

00:20:29.320 Like, we went to church, so I knew we were family.

00:20:32.080 But he just was like, oh, y'all need to wait, and you're too young.

00:20:34.960 And we're just dead set.

00:20:37.280 We're like, no, we're getting married.

00:20:38.960 So when we have a meeting, and he's a smart business guy,

00:20:43.180 and he's got all these papers.

00:20:45.460 He's got statistics and papers and files, you know.

00:20:48.780 I'm just sitting there, white T-shirt, like he's blowing me away.

00:20:53.360 He's making me so mad, you know, because I'm like giving him,

00:20:56.200 I'm pitching vision, man, you know.

00:20:58.980 What was your vision?

00:21:00.820 Well, Christianity, like we're brothers.

00:21:03.580 Like, come on, man, this is going to be great.

00:21:05.460 And he's like, you haven't thought about all these things in life?

00:21:08.720 And finally, he just goes, he's getting so mad.

00:21:12.160 He's like, I thought he was going to hit me.

00:21:13.500 Yeah, he's like leading up on me.

00:21:15.220 He said, where exactly do you plan on living with my daughter, you know?

00:21:21.360 And I said, well, I reckon I'll pull a trailer up on the back of Phil's house

00:21:26.400 and just live there for free.

00:21:29.580 That was your vision?

00:21:30.600 Not the answer the dude wanted to take.

00:21:34.540 And we'll burn our garbage in the yard like normal people do.

00:21:44.940 But it worked out.

00:21:47.280 So last fall, I was out in Las Vegas and I ran into Theo Vaughn, who's hilarious.

00:21:53.160 And I wind up doing a podcast with Theo Vaughn.

00:21:55.180 And I have a tin of Zen on the set with me.

00:21:57.740 And he says, what's that?

00:21:58.760 And I start joking about the product, nicotine pouches.

00:22:01.700 And I say, in effect, this is a cure for erectile dysfunction.

00:22:06.840 Totally joking, of course.

00:22:07.960 Not serious.

00:22:08.920 Not a doctor.

00:22:10.260 Never even think about making medical claims.

00:22:12.580 I have no idea if that's true.

00:22:13.640 I'm totally kidding.

00:22:14.440 It's what we call a joke in the business.

00:22:16.060 It's a joke.

00:22:16.620 It's not serious.

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00:22:39.860 You should know that there is no medical study that suggests that our product is an effective

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00:26:58.440 32 years later, we're still married.

00:27:01.600 That's amazing.

00:27:02.840 And we're great.

00:27:04.200 I mean, so her parents' house and my house literally, it's like a pitch.

00:27:10.860 I know you don't play golf.

00:27:11.780 It's a pitch and wedge away from me.

00:27:13.820 And we were just right beside each other.

00:27:15.040 Now?

00:27:15.980 Mm-hmm.

00:27:17.400 Yeah, I see them every day.

00:27:18.920 Yeah.

00:27:19.460 And I learned, most of what I learned in business, I learned from him.

00:27:22.300 How many grandkids did you give them?

00:27:24.180 Eight.

00:27:26.000 Eight so far.

00:27:28.480 You have eight.

00:27:29.340 I have eight.

00:27:30.020 So he has?

00:27:31.820 Oh, how many?

00:27:32.360 Eight great-grandchildren.

00:27:34.040 How many kids did you have with his daughter?

00:27:37.920 How many kids do you have?

00:27:38.700 Oh, how many kids?

00:27:39.260 I have six.

00:27:39.780 Six, okay.

00:27:44.860 He's got to be pretty psyched.

00:27:45.780 It's just the way you ask him.

00:27:47.160 Sorry.

00:27:47.800 I asked him backwards.

00:27:48.920 Let me just start again.

00:27:50.340 I have six children and eight grandchildren, so yeah.

00:27:54.160 Amazing.

00:27:54.640 But yeah, they're great.

00:27:55.660 And so we live, they're on the, and we all live right there.

00:27:57.940 We're just all connected and live beside each other.

00:28:00.640 So how long did it take you to win a yes from your father-in-law?

00:28:03.240 Well, I mean, it was after that night, he wanted me to come over to their house.

00:28:11.960 And so Corey was, she was in college.

00:28:14.520 So she wasn't even there when all this happened.

00:28:16.880 She was in college.

00:28:17.560 I wasn't going to college.

00:28:19.600 I was going to seminary.

00:28:20.860 I was going to be a preacher.

00:28:22.240 And so Corey calls and says, Dad wants you to come over.

00:28:29.580 And I said, he's going to come pick you up and take you over to their house.

00:28:32.600 I said, no.

00:28:34.840 She said, why not?

00:28:35.860 And I said, I'll have to walk home.

00:28:38.700 She goes, what do you mean?

00:28:39.560 I said, oh, it's going to go bad.

00:28:41.460 And I don't have a ride.

00:28:42.660 I'm going to have to walk all the way back to my house.

00:28:44.680 It's like seven miles.

00:28:46.300 I said, no, I'm not.

00:28:47.600 It's time to come over here.

00:28:49.260 So he comes over to where I was staying.

00:28:51.640 And I was living with my brother at the time.

00:28:54.060 And it was he and his mom and me.

00:28:55.540 We were on the couch together.

00:28:57.040 And my mother-in-law, she was in between us.

00:29:00.360 But I did.

00:29:00.840 And I thought, man, I think he may punch me.

00:29:03.420 And I was ready.

00:29:05.320 I mean, I have three brothers.

00:29:06.460 And so I was like, we're just going to fight.

00:29:07.740 Let's just fight.

00:29:08.500 I was like, let's go.

00:29:10.200 You know?

00:29:11.600 But then it was after that night.

00:29:13.200 They said, OK.

00:29:15.400 And then I think just six months later, we got married.

00:29:19.860 And we were driving to the wedding.

00:29:21.340 And he said, you know what?

00:29:22.960 I said what I said.

00:29:24.140 And that's the way I felt.

00:29:26.180 But now we're good.

00:29:27.460 And I literally never heard another word about it.

00:29:30.200 Really?

00:29:30.700 Yeah, he was great.

00:29:32.020 So it was your wife that came up with the idea for Duck Dynasty.

00:29:35.280 Yeah.

00:29:36.360 Then I had to go tell Phil.

00:29:39.540 Because originally, it was on the Outdoor Channel.

00:29:41.740 Yeah.

00:29:42.540 What was it called?

00:29:43.040 I was approached by Benelli Shotguns at SHOT Show.

00:29:46.400 Have you been to SHOT Show?

00:29:47.320 Yeah.

00:29:47.720 Yeah.

00:29:48.120 So I was approached by them right after she said that.

00:29:52.000 And they were like, hey, are you guys interested in doing a reality TV show with the shotguns?

00:29:56.140 And I was like, Corey just said we should do a reality TV show.

00:30:00.220 And he goes, well, let's have a meeting.

00:30:03.200 And so we sat down.

00:30:06.500 And they said, hey, we'll pay for production.

00:30:09.880 You guys will be on the show.

00:30:11.040 So thankfully, they had two guys that came in that they had just hired who they came out of reality television.

00:30:19.080 So he'd hired them for their in-house, all their commercials and stuff that they do.

00:30:23.740 And we love Benelli.

00:30:24.940 We love the shotguns.

00:30:26.340 So we was like, yeah.

00:30:27.800 And so we're going through the deals.

00:30:29.920 And so right at the end, Corey says, she's such a smart business person.

00:30:35.820 And I'm excited.

00:30:36.620 I'm like, hey, our business is going to go up.

00:30:38.520 So I go to Phil.

00:30:39.140 I'm like, Phil.

00:30:39.620 He's like, oh, it's a terrible idea.

00:30:40.740 And I'm like, Dad, we'll sell more duck calls.

00:30:42.920 We'll be on the Outdoor Channel.

00:30:44.480 Plus free shotguns.

00:30:45.760 Plus free shotguns.

00:30:47.120 I was like, plus free other stuff.

00:30:48.500 I was like, this is the smoking deal.

00:30:51.220 And so Corey says, so we're going to go up to Maryland.

00:30:54.880 I think that's where they're at, Maryland.

00:30:56.460 And we're going to have this meeting.

00:30:58.180 And Corey, she'd been reading these books.

00:31:00.120 And she goes, well, I think they should pay y'all a talent fee.

00:31:05.780 I'd never heard that word.

00:31:07.940 I said, what is a talent fee?

00:31:09.300 She goes, like, they should pay y'all to be on the show.

00:31:12.020 I said, Corey, Corey, Corey, don't get greedy.

00:31:14.860 Like, this is a gift.

00:31:17.300 They're paying for production.

00:31:19.640 And I said, shotguns.

00:31:20.740 Yeah, and she's like, well, it won't hurt to ask.

00:31:24.500 And I said, what?

00:31:27.260 Okay.

00:31:27.700 But I said, here's the deal.

00:31:29.240 When you ask, if you get any weird sense, abort the mission, get out of it.

00:31:34.360 Do not screw this deal.

00:31:35.660 So I was like, this is our big chance.

00:31:37.980 You're going to ruin it by asking for too much.

00:31:39.620 So we go in the meeting.

00:31:41.200 The guy's going through.

00:31:41.920 He said, okay, we'll start production here.

00:31:43.600 And we'll do this and that.

00:31:45.780 And he goes, I think we're about ready to go.

00:31:47.720 And Corey's like, I have one more thing.

00:31:48.880 And I'm like, oh, God, I'm like sick of me.

00:31:51.760 And she's like, we're thinking you should pay the guy's talent fee.

00:31:57.160 And he was like, oh, what were you thinking?

00:31:59.400 And she said, we were thinking $30,000 a piece was going to be for the whole season.

00:32:05.120 And I'm making $28,000 a year.

00:32:08.720 That's my salary.

00:32:09.500 What were you doing?

00:32:10.620 That was my job.

00:32:11.620 I made $28,000.

00:32:12.760 But what was your job?

00:32:13.820 Oh, at the duck call company.

00:32:14.900 That was my whole yearly job.

00:32:16.540 I made $28,000.

00:32:17.460 So she just asked for $30,000 to do this thing, which would essentially double my pay.

00:32:25.440 And when she said $30,000, I'm like, oh, my gosh, that's way too much.

00:32:29.920 And the guy literally just goes, yeah, okay, no problem.

00:32:33.560 And I'm like, crap, we should have said $50,000.

00:32:35.800 We should have said $50,000.

00:32:37.280 She said $30,000.

00:32:40.220 So then, and here's what kind of CEO I am.

00:32:43.180 So we were excited.

00:32:44.420 So we go back to the house.

00:32:45.400 So I go back down to Dad's house.

00:32:47.460 Jace is there.

00:32:48.160 We're all in the house.

00:32:49.280 And they're waiting to hear what happened with the TV show.

00:32:51.660 And I walk in.

00:32:52.160 I'm like, well, boys, we were fixing to do us a television show on the Outdoor Channel.

00:32:56.780 And guess what else I got us?

00:32:58.480 $30,000 a piece.

00:33:00.420 I acted like it was my idea.

00:33:03.920 And everybody just like, we were like, we did it.

00:33:06.900 It's over.

00:33:07.560 We finally figured it out.

00:33:09.360 We got free shotguns.

00:33:11.100 We doubled our pay.

00:33:12.480 We have to do a TV show.

00:33:13.700 We have no idea what we're doing.

00:33:15.260 And we launched into that show.

00:33:17.480 What year was that?

00:33:19.720 This would have been probably 08.

00:33:24.240 Yeah.

00:33:24.500 Somewhere in 08.

00:33:26.720 So we launched into the show.

00:33:28.080 We were able to cut our teeth.

00:33:29.160 So we've been making DVDs and hunting videos.

00:33:31.560 Now we go on this TV with these boys from reality TV were there.

00:33:36.780 So we really learned how to do television.

00:33:40.140 You know, how to do, you know, what was going to become ultimately Duck Dynasty.

00:33:45.520 It was a different show.

00:33:47.360 Like half of it was just like hardcore guns, you know, and all the good.

00:33:51.720 They were showing their products.

00:33:53.560 But the other half was just like silly reality stuff that we just came up.

00:33:57.980 And I kind of focused on that.

00:33:59.700 My brother and dad and them, they did the hardcore hunting.

00:34:02.100 And then I was over there doing the, hey, we can show this.

00:34:04.620 And we can do this wild, crazy stuff we were doing.

00:34:07.340 And the show was super popular.

00:34:09.720 Like in that world, everybody loved it.

00:34:11.900 And we won awards.

00:34:14.140 And our sales went up.

00:34:16.720 More people were buying Duck Hauls and our T-shirts.

00:34:18.620 So it was like, hey, we did it, man.

00:34:20.380 And I had to sell.

00:34:22.340 Part of the deal was I had to sell half the advertisers.

00:34:25.840 So because then that one, you get your commercial, then you have to go sell them.

00:34:30.140 So Benelli would sell half, and I sold half of them.

00:34:33.540 And it was so funny.

00:34:34.780 Like it was hard selling.

00:34:36.240 But ultimately, it was going to be Duck Dynasty.

00:34:37.680 It was hard selling an ad for this thing.

00:34:40.780 I ended up selling all mine.

00:34:41.840 I would sell my ads.

00:34:43.080 And that was part of the deal I had to do.

00:34:46.500 So then we get an email.

00:34:47.880 I get a generic email.

00:34:49.500 Well, information at Duck Commander, and there's no time how many of these just never even get looked at.

00:34:56.740 Of course.

00:34:58.440 It's a dude.

00:34:59.320 He said, I'm a producer in Los Angeles.

00:35:01.280 I've watched the show on Outdoor Channel.

00:35:03.520 He saw that show.

00:35:05.600 I think you guys have a really big show.

00:35:07.700 Give me a call.

00:35:09.240 Left his number.

00:35:10.620 Secretary comes in and says, I got this email.

00:35:14.000 Somebody's in there from Los Angeles.

00:35:15.440 She said, do you want me to throw it away, or do you want me to respond?

00:35:20.800 And I looked at it, and I said, I'll respond.

00:35:22.740 So I responded, hey, this is Willie.

00:35:24.080 What are you thinking?

00:35:26.280 And I get on the call with him, and man, he's a fast talker.

00:35:30.280 He's LA.

00:35:31.240 He's like, Willie, I'm telling you, this is going to be the biggest show.

00:35:34.660 I mean, I'm telling you, I've got something this big.

00:35:36.900 Like, you have a really big show.

00:35:39.420 Like, we got to take this thing bigger.

00:35:42.960 This is on cable.

00:35:44.280 This is on, and I'm thinking, this guy's full of crap.

00:35:47.520 I'm like, I said, do you think so?

00:35:49.360 And he's like, he said, Willie, you will not be able to walk down the street without people,

00:35:53.700 everybody recognizing who you are.

00:35:55.420 And I thought, yeah, this guy, like, he's laying it on thick, you know.

00:35:59.880 And so I said, so what do we need to do if we were to do that?

00:36:04.080 He said, we'll make a sizzle reel.

00:36:05.500 Now, fortunately, we had just done, like, three seasons of this show.

00:36:09.120 So we took three minutes, and then he started pitching around the networks, and there was a lot of interest.

00:36:15.740 You got to remember, this is the time, Louisiana, the tax credits were big, like, before Georgia had it.

00:36:21.520 Louisiana was kind of the hotbed, and there was tons of shows.

00:36:24.660 I mean, our state is, like, there's so much culture and just fun people in our state anyway.

00:36:30.940 And so you had Billy the Exterminator, Swamp People, Sons of Guns.

00:36:38.580 All these are Louisiana shows.

00:36:39.900 Buy You Billionaires.

00:36:40.840 There's tons of shows being shot there.

00:36:42.140 So if you had anything in Louisiana, because they knew they could go, say, 40%, you know, in this state.

00:36:48.160 And he saw it, and we were on the Outdoor Channel.

00:36:50.980 He saw it.

00:36:52.040 And then I know where it comes A&E.

00:36:53.780 A&E, I didn't really know anything about A&E.

00:36:56.200 I didn't watch, even know what it was.

00:36:58.840 And he said, A&E is interested in two pilots.

00:37:03.360 And I'm like, what does that mean?

00:37:04.740 And he says, well, if they pick it up, that's where we want to be.

00:37:08.620 And it's a good mixed audience, like men and women watch A&E, big company, you know, combined with History Channel, ABC, Disney, all this, and ESPN.

00:37:20.540 And so he said, the problem is if they pass on his dad, like, because then everybody would just say, oh, they passed on.

00:37:26.460 Yeah.

00:37:27.360 And so we shot two pilots for A&E, had no idea what we were doing.

00:37:31.540 And then the film crew got giant.

00:37:33.940 You know, they sent down this huge crew, and we had no idea.

00:37:37.900 And we just kind of went into it, and I didn't really know what we were doing.

00:37:41.260 And didn't know if it was good, and I didn't know, you know.

00:37:44.800 And so what was interesting was they didn't know what exactly they were getting.

00:37:50.460 So if you kind of just looked at a picture of us, you'd be like, I think they thought we, like, grunted and, like, you know, and couldn't speak English.

00:38:02.840 So they didn't, I think, they thought it was going to be, like, danger, like, alligators are coming out of the water, you know.

00:38:09.260 So they come down, and so A&E comes, so we shot the pilots, we sent it off, and so they come, we're like, well, we have good news and bad news.

00:38:15.980 Because the bad news is this is not the show we were ordering, like, at all.

00:38:20.460 We were all shocked.

00:38:22.040 And we're like, uh-oh.

00:38:23.180 They said the good news is it's way better than what we thought we were getting.

00:38:27.400 And they were like, this is a family show.

00:38:30.260 Because nobody had put us in any category of family show, even though we were family.

00:38:35.040 But it was like, they just didn't.

00:38:36.060 And I think they thought kind of like, we're going to laugh at these, but, you know, these are, they just totally didn't.

00:38:41.900 It was a honey boo boo thing.

00:38:42.980 They said, right, they didn't realize, right, that, because some of their ideas, initially, some of them, it was like, the women folk are out, you know, getting opossums, you know, and skinning them out.

00:38:55.040 And my wife's like, these women folk do not, we don't even go in the woods, you know, so, but they saw, and then there was this comedy, this real, because the first show we did on Outdoor Channel wasn't really funny.

00:39:10.180 And once we saw this kind of comedic thing come out, that's what, I mean, that was what really, I think, set it apart was, it's funny.

00:39:17.580 It's a funny, you know, something you can laugh, you know, it's a funny show.

00:39:21.440 What's the, I mean, what's the process of filming it?

00:39:25.040 Um, well.

00:39:27.740 You said your house got descended on by a swarm of producers.

00:39:31.940 It was, yeah.

00:39:32.900 So, we shot in all our houses, especially mine, especially my miles was kind of the, because the show was kind of, we didn't know any of this going in, because we didn't know what we were doing, but it was kind of shot through miles.

00:39:47.780 And so, you would have, like, Willie's dad, Willie's wife.

00:39:52.240 So, you're watching, as a viewer, you're watching it through my eyes.

00:39:55.320 So, I was supposed to be the normal guy.

00:39:56.640 I'm the normal person.

00:39:58.480 And then everybody else is crazy, you know, and chaos is happening.

00:40:02.500 And they, to some extent, they are crazy.

00:40:04.380 And so, you had some people that are just kind of like themselves.

00:40:07.200 Like, my father just, dad never understood what exactly we were doing.

00:40:12.520 Like, he never understood the show.

00:40:15.080 He never liked it.

00:40:16.040 He never understood it.

00:40:17.140 He told me early on, he was like, well, tell him we need more preaching on this show.

00:40:22.720 I said, dad, there's another Robertson family with a show like that.

00:40:25.980 It's the 700.

00:40:27.360 I'm like, we're not that show.

00:40:29.520 Like, this is not that.

00:40:31.240 Are you related to them, by the way?

00:40:32.740 And he was like, I'm not.

00:40:35.080 No, I'm not.

00:40:36.080 Not that, they haven't asked me for money.

00:40:38.000 So, I guess I'm not.

00:40:39.320 Everybody related to me has asked me for money.

00:40:42.320 You're like an NBA player.

00:40:45.500 So, yeah, he never quite understood the show.

00:40:49.760 So, my dad got to this one.

00:40:51.060 So, my dad got so mad one time.

00:40:52.700 He said, we were saying, they just didn't understand.

00:40:55.580 He thought it was so goofy and we were just being stupid.

00:40:57.560 And so, we sit down.

00:40:59.840 This is my favorite thing that ever happened to Doug Nosti that never got shown.

00:41:04.140 So, we had this dinner scene every time.

00:41:06.140 Yeah.

00:41:06.460 And so, we're on like episode 80.

00:41:09.180 And the part of TV is, you got these kids.

00:41:13.200 They come in from L.A.

00:41:14.260 They're 25 years old.

00:41:15.560 And they're telling you what to do.

00:41:16.620 All right, go.

00:41:17.700 You don't look right.

00:41:18.920 It's kind of weird when you become the CEO of your company and you're doing this.

00:41:23.340 Now, you're listening to people you don't know and they're telling you what to do.

00:41:27.140 And so, I think my dad had gotten past the point of that at this point.

00:41:31.840 I missed pretty quickly.

00:41:33.400 So, we're setting all the table up and we're just sitting there.

00:41:36.280 You know, we've done this a thousand times, you know, and jibs on the table.

00:41:40.860 And it's like, okay, everybody ready?

00:41:42.480 And some little young producers are like, okay.

00:41:45.960 And Mr. Phil, you'll pray action.

00:41:48.160 And so, we bow our heads.

00:41:52.180 And Phil said, Father, I pray for these bunch of heathens from Los Angeles, California,

00:42:00.280 with their latte coffees and their filthy language.

00:42:04.260 I pray you don't burn them all in hell for their sinfulness.

00:42:08.100 Amen.

00:42:08.360 And we were laughing so hard because none of us knew that was coming.

00:42:18.220 None of us realized.

00:42:20.300 And so, we all look up and we're just like, look around and go, what was that?

00:42:23.400 And this young producer, he never missed a beat.

00:42:25.580 He was like, thank you, Mr. Phil.

00:42:27.120 Now, can we do another prayer that we could actually put on television?

00:42:31.240 That never aired.

00:42:32.260 And it never aired, never aired.

00:42:35.520 It was so funny.

00:42:36.980 So, yeah, Dad didn't quite understand the way we were doing it.

00:42:40.940 But, I mean, these cameras are in your house for, what, months or so?

00:42:43.640 They are, but you know, well, it was like walking into here.

00:42:49.260 Yeah.

00:42:50.820 We're filming in here.

00:42:52.060 Oh, that's a good point.

00:42:53.140 Obviously, you know.

00:42:54.740 And we're in a pheasant camp in South Dakota.

00:42:56.280 We are in a pheasant camp.

00:42:58.820 I was a little worried, too, about that.

00:43:00.380 I thought we did a bad idea.

00:43:02.260 So, we stayed up too late last night.

00:43:04.520 That's true.

00:43:04.840 We were telling the story.

00:43:05.640 It was so fun.

00:43:06.440 That's true.

00:43:06.720 And it was, I'm glad we did.

00:43:08.260 So, we get up this morning.

00:43:09.340 We go shoot tons of birds.

00:43:11.600 Quite a few birds.

00:43:11.960 Walked around.

00:43:13.460 And then we go, I think I ate two pounds of meatloaf.

00:43:17.560 At least.

00:43:18.320 Yeah.

00:43:18.820 You said, at least I ate that?

00:43:20.220 No, I did.

00:43:20.380 Okay, you did as well.

00:43:21.700 I didn't look at your plate.

00:43:22.800 Yeah, a lot.

00:43:23.540 And I thought, that's not a good recipe for doing a long podcast.

00:43:28.720 I was like.

00:43:30.380 Not at four in the afternoon.

00:43:31.820 I didn't get a big lunch.

00:43:33.280 Oh, man.

00:43:34.220 Did you have any of the lemon?

00:43:35.040 That was part of my demands, though.

00:43:36.600 Because I've heard recently about people and their podcasts and demands.

00:43:40.180 Contract writers, yeah.

00:43:41.880 And I said, I demand we have to fly to another state, shoot birds that morning.

00:43:47.420 Yes.

00:43:47.780 This should be every podcast.

00:43:50.600 And it was literally in the contract that you signed with us where you demanded lemon squares after.

00:43:55.920 And I thought, that's a little much.

00:43:57.640 Yeah.

00:43:58.120 No, I said, let's just go.

00:43:59.080 We have to go find somewhere to.

00:44:00.760 Actually, this was your idea.

00:44:02.280 And so thank you.

00:44:03.000 It was my idea.

00:44:03.600 I was going to go to Maine.

00:44:07.120 Yeah, but we don't have any pheasants in Maine.

00:44:09.200 No, this was a better.

00:44:10.380 Just grouse.

00:44:10.640 Trust me.

00:44:11.340 This was a way better idea.

00:44:12.960 If you could, I don't know how many birds we shot this morning, but if you could shoot two grouse a day in Maine, you're the best grouse hunter in Maine.

00:44:19.020 Really?

00:44:19.640 You're a good shot, too.

00:44:21.540 I'm telling your audience.

00:44:22.580 I would hope so.

00:44:23.580 I'm telling your audience you're a good shot.

00:44:25.880 I'm not half as good.

00:44:26.360 I wasn't surprised.

00:44:27.400 I mean, I knew you hunted a lot.

00:44:28.880 I'm not half as good as I should be after all the practice I've had.

00:44:31.420 I'll tell you that.

00:44:32.960 But no, it's actually, I missed a bird.

00:44:36.080 The bird got too aggressive with me, and it intimidated me.

00:44:39.580 And I always think, you know, when you're bird hunting, you're the pursuer.

00:44:43.380 You're the aggressor.

00:44:44.320 You're the predator.

00:44:45.160 And when the bird turns it around and tries to fly up your nose, I just, I freeze and miss the bird.

00:44:50.200 Wow.

00:44:50.900 And you had the gun.

00:44:51.900 Because it's unnatural.

00:44:53.100 I was here a month ago doing this pheasant hunting.

00:44:56.520 I didn't grow up pheasant hunting, so we were poor.

00:44:58.240 I have a pheasant come.

00:45:02.800 He literally is coming at my face.

00:45:05.220 And I did know what to do, and I took the shotgun, and I went back like I was going to hit it, like a baseball bat.

00:45:13.900 And if I had a little more cojones, I wouldn't.

00:45:17.880 Because the guide said, you should have done it.

00:45:20.260 Oh, it was that close?

00:45:21.200 It was that close.

00:45:22.440 I think he'd been hit.

00:45:23.540 So he's coming down, and I'm like, oh, he was just so close.

00:45:27.620 And there's a picture, and you see me kind of like this.

00:45:31.060 And he just goes, shoom.

00:45:32.520 Right.

00:45:32.920 And then I thought, why didn't I?

00:45:35.180 Can you imagine?

00:45:36.240 If you just grab.

00:45:36.900 The presence of mine.

00:45:39.000 That's what separates most out to that one, the just grab that sucker out of the air.

00:45:46.120 That's an Aaron Rodgers move.

00:45:47.680 And I blew it, and one day, now I'm going to schedule months of pheasant hunting.

00:45:54.220 Do I get that same scenario to happen again?

00:45:56.300 I watched my father get hit right in the chest on a driven peg shoot for pheasant when I was a kid, and it knocked him right down.

00:46:02.140 He was turning, talking to someone, and the pheasant just came in and hit him right and just, bam, and he's a big man.

00:46:07.220 Did you grow up pheasant hunting?

00:46:08.500 Yeah.

00:46:08.900 Oh, you did?

00:46:09.520 Oh, yeah.

00:46:10.240 Yeah.

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00:48:54.800 We were poor.

00:48:59.220 We were poor, too.

00:49:00.080 Yeah, we were really poor.

00:49:00.540 Oh, yeah, we were super poor.

00:49:01.700 You were middle class, too.

00:49:03.120 Oh, yeah.

00:49:04.040 How did you get off on McDonald's to go work?

00:49:06.900 I don't know.

00:49:07.260 I don't know.

00:49:08.080 I've come a long way.

00:49:09.740 Just bootstrapping it.

00:49:13.720 So, did you...

00:49:15.420 Like, what was it like to go from being maybe locally famous to nationally famous?

00:49:21.980 Yeah, night and day.

00:49:23.100 Yeah, but it was...

00:49:24.680 Man, I'm so appreciative.

00:49:26.320 So, it was like we did just enough to get comfortable enough to figure out what it is that you're doing.

00:49:34.100 And I love the, you know, the progression.

00:49:38.080 You know, I think zero to, you know, just like nothing to something.

00:49:41.680 But it was just enough.

00:49:42.760 Like, we knew just enough TV.

00:49:44.040 And then we had done some, you know, stuff to work.

00:49:46.860 If we went in Bass Pro Shop or what, you know, it was like, ah, there's documentary guys.

00:49:51.120 And, but just enough.

00:49:53.780 But then once we hit the really national spotlight, especially to the level our show was, it was crazy.

00:50:00.880 It was just crazy.

00:50:02.140 It's not good for you.

00:50:03.840 No.

00:50:04.960 It wasn't good.

00:50:06.020 No.

00:50:06.160 In many ways.

00:50:07.360 Business, it's not because business went crazy.

00:50:10.300 And trying to do everything, you know, because you're still trying to, you have a business.

00:50:15.340 You're trying to run your business.

00:50:16.800 And then ours was really unique because the nature of the show looked like we were goofing off.

00:50:23.740 Or everybody in the, well, then I'm getting, you know, 50,000 orders.

00:50:28.480 Well, we can't fill them.

00:50:30.500 And then I got people emailing me.

00:50:33.380 I just saw y'all were goofing off.

00:50:35.140 I just watched the show.

00:50:36.200 It was like, that's really what we are.

00:50:38.060 Go build some more duck calls.

00:50:38.860 So then, yeah, I had to go, like, do a video going, hey, guys, look, Willie from Duck Nastia.

00:50:42.880 We really are working.

00:50:44.440 We're trying to, like, it's not everything you see on the TV show.

00:50:47.700 It's what exactly happened that day, you know, exactly that day.

00:50:50.480 Like, so it was crazy.

00:50:53.040 It was the first holidays we crashed our computer, I think, three times.

00:50:58.760 And it was so bad because they ordered their product.

00:51:03.060 So we got their money, and then it crashed.

00:51:06.760 But we didn't know what they ordered.

00:51:08.300 So we have your money.

00:51:10.140 We don't know what you do.

00:51:11.040 What did you do?

00:51:12.700 Just tried to put out saying, hey, call us.

00:51:16.060 So they'd call and be like, I didn't get my order.

00:51:17.620 And we're like, why don't you tell us what you ordered?

00:51:21.080 Well, just generalize whatever you think, you know, spitball it.

00:51:25.540 You know, we'll get as close as we can.

00:51:27.080 We're just trying to ship stuff out.

00:51:29.760 People are like, those are good problems to have.

00:51:31.600 And I'm like, no, they're not.

00:51:32.440 They're terrible problems to have.

00:51:35.060 Just really overwhelmed, just wasn't ready.

00:51:39.040 And to think that when we did this show, we had this meeting, and my wife, Corey, says,

00:51:44.840 do you think we should order more duck calls?

00:51:46.760 And I said, no, no, nobody's going to order a duck call.

00:51:49.320 You know, even if you like the show, why would you need a duck call?

00:51:52.820 I mean, if you're not a duck hunter, what do you?

00:51:55.420 Oh, was I wrong?

00:51:57.060 Really?

00:51:58.100 People were buying decorative duck calls?

00:52:00.200 People were just buying any duck call.

00:52:02.200 Like, they just wanted that.

00:52:03.280 What do they do?

00:52:03.700 I mean, unless you have ducked.

00:52:05.120 But on a shelf.

00:52:05.880 Well, it was just the, they wanted a piece of the show, and that was the piece they wanted.

00:52:10.200 How many duck calls did you sell?

00:52:11.900 Oh, man, like a million and a half or something crazy.

00:52:15.580 Duck calls?

00:52:15.980 Yeah.

00:52:16.840 In the year before, we'd done 50,000.

00:52:19.140 So, 50,000 to 1.5 million.

00:52:23.060 That's crazy.

00:52:23.860 It's insane.

00:52:24.660 It's insane.

00:52:25.200 We were working 24 hours a day.

00:52:26.660 I had crews.

00:52:27.540 I had everybody who could possibly.

00:52:31.640 How much child labor?

00:52:32.440 Not much child labor, except for ours.

00:52:36.720 We made ours work.

00:52:37.740 What did your kids think of the whole thing?

00:52:40.640 That's what I was, I mean, I think that's your big fear.

00:52:43.040 I mean, your fear is how's it going to, how does it play with them?

00:52:47.540 Yeah.

00:52:49.060 I always say this, you know, in life, I've been able to do a lot of things.

00:52:52.660 And most of the things my kids are going to do or have done, I've already done.

00:52:56.540 You know, I'm going to college, I have children, get married, you know, move.

00:53:01.080 I mean, the only thing I had zero experience with was being famous at a young age.

00:53:07.780 I understood it at 40, because I was 40 when the show came out.

00:53:13.520 But being 16, you know, I had no idea.

00:53:16.260 And also, you've got the beginning of social media, too.

00:53:21.880 And so that's new as well.

00:53:23.700 And so, yeah, I think they probably struggled, you know, with some of it.

00:53:29.740 Certainly, some aspects of it understood the good of it and, you know, figured out a way how to use it.

00:53:36.860 You know, used what it was for the good and then ditched the stuff that was the best.

00:53:40.940 So they're not mad about it now?

00:53:43.080 No, they're not.

00:53:44.180 How many are married?

00:53:45.880 Four.

00:53:47.100 Five.

00:53:47.940 Five.

00:53:48.400 Five.

00:53:49.640 How do you get your kids to get married so young?

00:53:53.540 Yeah.

00:53:56.400 I don't know.

00:53:57.920 I didn't encourage it.

00:54:00.860 You didn't?

00:54:01.960 Well, that was the day I told you about Corey's parents.

00:54:04.040 You know, her dad's mad.

00:54:05.240 You're too young.

00:54:06.860 This is what made him mad.

00:54:08.000 I said, how old were y'all?

00:54:11.200 1918.

00:54:12.000 Same age.

00:54:12.900 I was like, you're the same age we were when we got married.

00:54:15.940 So it was interesting that, because he couldn't say, oh, we waited.

00:54:19.000 And, but no, they wanted to get, you know, they got around the same age and they got married

00:54:25.440 as well.

00:54:26.100 But it's not like I said, here's how we do it around these parts, you know.

00:54:29.920 Not at all.

00:54:30.480 They just, I don't know.

00:54:33.720 You find the right one and then make a commitment and go.

00:54:36.380 It was pretty great.

00:54:39.140 Yeah.

00:54:40.360 It really is great.

00:54:41.900 Well, it's great because then you're young.

00:54:43.880 I got eight grandkids.

00:54:45.680 I'm a young, young grandparent.

00:54:48.780 I mean, it's fine when you're younger, you know.

00:54:51.020 You're not.

00:54:51.380 So how long did the show go?

00:54:56.580 Five years, 130 episodes.

00:55:00.080 Wow.

00:55:00.500 Why'd they end it?

00:55:04.180 There were a lot of reasons.

00:55:05.560 I think, one, it gets more expensive.

00:55:10.100 It just keeps getting more expensive.

00:55:12.180 Yeah.

00:55:12.380 You know, everything goes up, you know.

00:55:14.600 It's like.

00:55:15.920 Your fees go up.

00:55:16.920 Everything goes up.

00:55:17.820 Well, not just ours, everybody, you know, production.

00:55:19.860 Everybody's going, hey, if this keeps, you know, generating income.

00:55:23.440 And so, you know, it's, I'm assuming.

00:55:28.280 I mean, I think it's probably like a baseball player.

00:55:30.400 Like, you're paying a guy $10 million at first base.

00:55:33.880 He hits 25 home runs.

00:55:36.680 We could pay a guy $500,000.

00:55:38.340 Maybe he'll hit, maybe he'll hit 12 home runs.

00:55:40.880 Good enough.

00:55:41.640 We'll save them.

00:55:42.220 Yeah.

00:55:42.420 And so I'm sure they're like, we could make other shows.

00:55:45.620 And some of it just played out.

00:55:47.620 I mean, it, like, you just kind of run out of it.

00:55:50.840 Like, what's, what are we doing now?

00:55:52.660 You know, it's like, you had, you still have more kids and stuff.

00:55:54.680 It's like, you've done so many.

00:55:56.780 I mean, 130 episodes with two storylines is 260 stories.

00:56:02.800 That's a lot of stories, you know.

00:56:04.180 Yeah.

00:56:04.880 We were certainly ready.

00:56:06.180 I mean, we were ready for a break.

00:56:07.280 It was, that's a lot of work, man.

00:56:08.940 I mean, the first year, man, we filmed, God.

00:56:12.040 We filmed 10 months that year.

00:56:15.480 Yeah, this is not some couple of month deal, you know.

00:56:18.920 And this is not like that.

00:56:19.960 How many days a week?

00:56:21.320 The first year, we did six days a week.

00:56:23.900 And we did even some Sundays, Sunday afternoons.

00:56:28.820 Just getting it, man.

00:56:30.060 We were just.

00:56:31.420 That's crazy.

00:56:32.140 For 10 months, six days a week?

00:56:33.600 It was hard.

00:56:34.180 It was hard.

00:56:35.660 It was a lot.

00:56:37.040 But we were just, you know, at that point, we're like, figured it out.

00:56:40.360 And then they were just, it became so popular.

00:56:43.100 It must have gotten close.

00:56:43.860 Because they wanted more.

00:56:44.560 They were just like, we need more, we need more, we need more.

00:56:46.320 And so it was like, keep making them, keep making them.

00:56:48.260 And so finally, we're like, time out, you know, renegotiate.

00:56:51.020 And so part of that, we went to Monday through Thursday schedules.

00:56:55.320 It gives us a day off, at least a day to go to the hospital.

00:56:57.600 I mean, to go to the doctor, to go to, you know, stuff you need to do.

00:57:02.740 Because it's not like you worked every day, but you're on the schedule for that long.

00:57:05.880 So some days you may not be, you know, you may not be on that afternoon.

00:57:10.040 But you won't know until it comes out, you know, on the schedule, kind of where you're at.

00:57:13.160 Did you ever feel misrepresented by the show?

00:57:17.040 Uh, no, because, you know, I kind of played a part.

00:57:22.020 Like, I had a part that I played on the show.

00:57:24.600 And it was kind of consistent of, it just kept me, it was authentic.

00:57:29.900 I mean, it was like, I'm the CEO.

00:57:31.100 I'm the head guy.

00:57:32.060 And so I think in order to make some of it work, you know, you kind of had to have a bad guy.

00:57:39.080 You know, somebody that's like, and I mean, it's kind of the sort of comedy comes from.

00:57:43.960 You know, it's like, you think about, like, the stories you think about in school or in church growing up.

00:57:49.440 You know, one of the funniest things, it's when you're going to get in trouble, right?

00:57:51.960 Of course.

00:57:52.540 It's like, oh, it's so funny, like, you can't stop laughing.

00:57:56.220 So some of that was kind of like that, you know, let them do stuff.

00:57:59.660 And then I'd be like, this is so stupid, you know, because it was stupid.

00:58:03.980 But so I just kind of, you know, so for my role in it, and then I was also the guy that narrated you through the show.

00:58:11.380 So I had to keep you up on what was going on because people get confused.

00:58:18.200 And if you get confused, and if you don't, if you can't figure a show out, you'll just change the channel.

00:58:23.720 Of course.

00:58:24.360 Because it makes you feel dumb.

00:58:25.780 Yeah.

00:58:26.040 And you're like, oh, I can't watch this, you know, because I can't figure it out.

00:58:28.920 Did you watch the shows?

00:58:30.820 We did.

00:58:31.420 I did.

00:58:32.160 I don't, I never liked watching, really myself, and I don't like watching speeches or other stuff.

00:58:38.040 But we watched that one together because half of the show, I never knew what happened because it wasn't the parts I was in.

00:58:45.160 Right.

00:58:45.500 It'd be like, meanwhile, down at the river.

00:58:47.840 And so I didn't see that stuff.

00:58:50.660 And it was hilarious.

00:58:52.040 I'd be watching it going, this is so funny.

00:58:54.060 Because I didn't know what it was.

00:58:55.500 I was watching it with everybody else in the world.

00:58:58.220 And so it was so funny.

00:58:59.500 I would get so tickled at some of the stuff they would do.

00:59:03.300 So we'd watch it together.

00:59:04.540 We, like my family, would all get together.

00:59:08.040 And the kids were younger, so it was cool for them to be able to, you know, kind of see themselves on TV.

00:59:14.220 How were they treated at school because of it?

00:59:18.500 Different.

00:59:19.020 I mean, everybody's treated different, you know.

00:59:22.060 But they were, it was probably, you know, probably good and bad, you know.

00:59:28.920 They didn't go to school as much as, like they were out of school a lot.

00:59:34.700 So we had a teacher there on set just because it was a lot of days.

00:59:37.860 So they weren't, they just had to do a lot of the school.

00:59:41.280 Sadie did a ton of school from the house just because that's what she had to do.

00:59:44.920 So, but they were, they were in a Christian school and they were pretty lenient.

00:59:49.560 I mean, not on the grades, they were just lenient on, they let them play sports and they could still participate and stuff like that, you know, even though they were kind of doing school from afar.

00:59:59.420 What year did it end, the show?

01:00:04.340 12 to 17, maybe.

01:00:06.200 So.

01:00:06.740 It would have to end at 17.

01:00:07.840 I mean, at some point you're going to run into the political problem, right?

01:00:11.480 A show like that.

01:00:13.320 Yeah.

01:00:14.200 When you say political problem.

01:00:15.600 Well, I mean, I don't know.

01:00:18.280 You know, you live in Louisiana, you run a hunting related company and you're Christian.

01:00:25.460 So you're probably going to reach a different political conclusion.

01:00:27.880 You're probably going to be pro-Trump.

01:00:28.980 I mean, just judging by all that.

01:00:30.720 That is true.

01:00:31.340 Yeah.

01:00:31.600 That was Trump.

01:00:32.440 Yeah.

01:00:32.560 Most of the show was President Obama.

01:00:34.420 That was.

01:00:34.740 Yeah.

01:00:35.140 He was the president.

01:00:36.160 And yeah, Trump was right there.

01:00:39.280 Did you address it on the show?

01:00:40.620 I don't remember that, Trump.

01:00:41.720 No.

01:00:42.780 No.

01:00:43.900 No, we didn't.

01:00:45.240 We didn't.

01:00:46.420 Because it kind of wasn't that kind of, it wasn't like really reality like that.

01:00:51.520 It wasn't like you didn't see stuff from.

01:00:53.140 Right.

01:00:53.820 The.

01:00:54.860 Like I remember we would be filming at a grocery store.

01:00:56.900 We'd have to turn the magazines around because we would be on the cover of the magazine.

01:01:00.680 But we're filming the show around.

01:01:02.520 They'd be like.

01:01:03.180 Hey.

01:01:03.700 It's too fourth wall.

01:01:04.720 Yeah.

01:01:04.960 It was a little, it was a little, but yeah, Trump was, no, that was right when Trump.

01:01:11.260 Yeah.

01:01:11.460 I kind of, I stick my toe in the water a little bit on that one.

01:01:15.980 On the air you did?

01:01:17.460 No.

01:01:17.840 Just in life.

01:01:18.700 Yeah.

01:01:18.920 Just with Trump.

01:01:20.180 Well, yeah.

01:01:20.800 I mean, it's a different world now though, right?

01:01:22.580 I mean.

01:01:22.900 Well, in my mind, I was a little naive.

01:01:25.780 I just thought, well, this is cool.

01:01:28.160 You know, I like Trump.

01:01:30.700 I like, when I first heard about it, I thought, oh, that's what we need.

01:01:33.640 We need a business guy.

01:01:34.960 We need, we got to get away with these politicians.

01:01:37.320 We need a bit.

01:01:37.940 That's exactly who we need.

01:01:39.280 Yeah.

01:01:39.380 And, uh, and he had a reality TV show.

01:01:42.140 So I was like, Hey, he's like, uh, so, um, yeah.

01:01:46.480 And so I meet him.

01:01:48.880 I don't know.

01:01:49.440 You probably never read the story.

01:01:50.380 So first I met him, I was doing, uh, I was in Oklahoma city.

01:01:57.860 My son was speaking at something.

01:01:59.560 I mean, I went to hear him speak.

01:02:00.860 We had been elk hunting, uh, not my son, but me and a buddy were elk hunting and the dude

01:02:07.120 has a plane.

01:02:07.680 I said, Hey, can we stop in here?

01:02:09.320 My son's giving a speech.

01:02:10.520 Yeah, cool.

01:02:11.060 So when we go in there and, uh, see him, we're at lunch and this guy said, Hey, guess who's

01:02:17.600 in town?

01:02:18.720 I said, who?

01:02:19.460 He said, uh, Trump, he's doing one of his rallies.

01:02:22.640 This is back 15.

01:02:25.060 And, you know, he's doing these, right.

01:02:26.780 He was at the Oklahoma state fair.

01:02:28.720 And I was like, Oh, we got to go.

01:02:31.320 We got to go to this.

01:02:32.420 This is awesome.

01:02:33.300 You know?

01:02:34.220 And I had just met Don jr.

01:02:37.780 Who's a hunter.

01:02:38.680 And that's how I certainly, that's how we, we met each other.

01:02:41.480 We just met and talked.

01:02:42.620 And, uh, uh, so I, I emailed him or text him and just say, Hey, your dad's doing this

01:02:48.340 rally.

01:02:49.420 I was going to go check it out.

01:02:50.720 And he's like, cool.

01:02:51.300 I'll set it up.

01:02:52.120 And, uh, I remember I got a police officer cause I was like, there's no way I can go to

01:02:56.960 this Oklahoma state, but like, I'm going to get mobbed at this place, you know?

01:03:00.100 And, uh, I may be more recognizable than Donald Trump in Oklahoma city at this, in 2015.

01:03:06.440 And, um, so I show, I have this cop with me.

01:03:10.740 Um, I get, there's an RV in the back.

01:03:14.300 So it's like a outdoor, you know, giant, you know, it's outdoor thing.

01:03:19.540 There's an RV.

01:03:20.100 So I get on this RV, me and my buddies and, uh, and my cop friend, and there's these other

01:03:27.060 people in there.

01:03:27.720 There's like cater person.

01:03:30.080 There's a few people.

01:03:31.780 And this, this is funny story.

01:03:34.480 There's a dude on there and he comes up to me.

01:03:37.600 He's got an earpiece.

01:03:38.640 And, but he's like got beach shorts.

01:03:41.740 I was, you know, Oh, who is this guy?

01:03:45.180 I said, what do you, he said, can I get a picture?

01:03:47.460 I said, yeah.

01:03:48.680 I said, what do you do?

01:03:50.080 I, cause I didn't know who worked for Trump.

01:03:52.200 Trump's not there yet.

01:03:53.280 You know?

01:03:54.220 And he goes, Oh, I do all kinds of stuff.

01:03:55.780 You know, he said, uh, do you want to see my gun?

01:04:01.200 Now I've been around, you've been around enough.

01:04:03.300 Has any security person ever asked you, do you want to see my gun?

01:04:06.760 No, that's not a, no, it's not a thing.

01:04:08.720 And I'm looking at this cat going, what in the world?

01:04:10.600 So I take a picture and, uh, Corey Lewandowski gets on the bus.

01:04:17.600 He goes, if you ain't with Willie, get off the bus.

01:04:21.000 And so all these people started getting off the bus.

01:04:23.100 Right.

01:04:23.680 And so here comes the whole entourage, you know, and Trump gets on it.

01:04:28.700 First I met him.

01:04:30.220 He's like, Willie, Willie, uh, do you see the crowd is huge?

01:04:35.200 He goes, even for you, it's huge, right?

01:04:39.500 I mean, this is a huge crowd for somebody like you, you know?

01:04:41.900 And, uh, and so I'm kind of laughing.

01:04:43.440 My buddies are just like, this is the funniest thing ever.

01:04:46.020 I look back on the, you guys, Corey, this story.

01:04:48.780 I look back, that dude who said he had a gun is talking to Trump.

01:04:54.500 He didn't get off the bus and he's got like his book or something.

01:04:58.280 Um, and I could see like Trump does, he just looks and that's back when he had those like

01:05:03.840 giant security guards, you know, this is, he wasn't the president, you know, he used

01:05:07.200 to have those like six foot nine guys.

01:05:09.180 So Trump just gives us a look.

01:05:10.560 There's a look here.

01:05:11.660 They come to me and go, is that dude with you?

01:05:13.920 I said, no, he's not with me.

01:05:15.420 I said, and he said he had a gun.

01:05:17.240 And when I said that, oh, they grabbed this guy like by the back and just threw him off

01:05:28.100 the bus.

01:05:29.900 And Trump said, these spies are everywhere.

01:05:33.580 And so I was like, and they're all looking, I could tell me.

01:05:36.580 And I looked up and I said, what kind of operations y'all running here?

01:05:40.080 Well, then that really made it bad because then I'm making fun of their security.

01:05:43.700 Uh, but it was a true story.

01:05:45.740 Like this dude, uh, was he thankfully I had the cop.

01:05:50.240 It was a detective from Oklahoma city.

01:05:52.100 So later, a week later he calls me, says, Willie, he said, I found out about you, about

01:05:56.840 that guy.

01:05:58.300 He brought the, um, um, porta potties in to the fair.

01:06:06.340 And he tells the fair director, anything else I can help you with?

01:06:09.920 I'll do.

01:06:10.320 Well, they start putting him to work doing all that.

01:06:12.120 He has an earpiece cause they're telling him his whole thing was he wanted to get Trump

01:06:16.080 signed his book.

01:06:16.900 He did the whole thing.

01:06:18.140 He goes, he didn't even know you were going to be there.

01:06:20.500 You were a bonus.

01:06:22.040 Cause he was excited.

01:06:23.080 He got the picture of me.

01:06:24.280 Isn't that wild?

01:06:25.100 That's amazing.

01:06:26.000 So, so I'm on the bus.

01:06:27.520 So, um, so Trump's fixing to go speak.

01:06:30.960 Well, when I went to this deal, my wife, I said, look, Trump speaking, we're going to

01:06:36.000 go over and check it out.

01:06:36.840 And she says, Willie, do not, do not get on that stage.

01:06:41.660 And I said, don't worry.

01:06:43.880 I'm out of this.

01:06:44.680 I'm not getting involved.

01:06:46.280 Bobby Jindal was running.

01:06:47.500 He was a friend of mine.

01:06:48.540 I was like, no, no, no, I ain't doing any of that stuff.

01:06:52.060 And so before he gets off the bat, he goes, Willie, did you want to get up and say anything

01:06:56.600 to the crowd?

01:06:57.340 And I said, no, no, no, it's Trump.

01:06:58.880 I'm good, man.

01:06:59.440 I'm good.

01:06:59.900 I'm, I'm, you go ahead.

01:07:01.900 You know?

01:07:02.400 But I thought, uh, you know, I thought these politicians, you know, but I thought, well,

01:07:07.760 he's not a politician.

01:07:08.720 So maybe he won't do it.

01:07:10.040 So I go out there and talk to him.

01:07:11.240 I'm like, he gets on the stage and I thought if he's going to do, he's going to do it right

01:07:14.600 off the bat.

01:07:15.960 And so there's a stairwell.

01:07:17.960 And so I'm kind of hiding in this cause I don't want to, I don't really want to be seen

01:07:21.900 at this point.

01:07:22.440 You know, I'm like, somebody would be like, there's Willie Robertson.

01:07:25.220 I'm like, no, no, I look like him, you know, and I'm kind of like leaning in the stairwell

01:07:28.940 and I'm thinking right off the bat, he's going to go like, Hey, I guess who's here.

01:07:32.800 You know, nothing.

01:07:34.220 Trump just goes into a speech.

01:07:36.860 He's China.

01:07:37.960 He's 30 minutes deep.

01:07:40.280 By this time, I'm, we're kind of, we're laughing.

01:07:42.560 We're like, this is the funnest thing ever.

01:07:44.460 You know, I never dreamed it'd be the first day.

01:07:46.120 I was like, this is cool to see, you know?

01:07:48.160 And, uh, and Trump 30 minutes deep.

01:07:51.200 He just stops.

01:07:51.960 He looks around and he goes, where's Willie?

01:07:56.640 And my heart stopped.

01:07:58.320 I went, oh my gosh, please tell me he knows another guy named Willie at the Oklahoma State

01:08:04.860 Fair.

01:08:05.640 And he just starts walking down the street.

01:08:06.920 He goes, where the hell's Willie at?

01:08:08.900 Where's he at?

01:08:09.820 And nobody knows who he's talking about.

01:08:11.440 Everybody's going, who's Willie?

01:08:13.360 And my buddy's going, Willie, you got to go up there.

01:08:15.440 And I said, I can't, I can't go up there.

01:08:16.920 Like, I can't, I'm not prepared to go up on the stage.

01:08:19.500 And he's like, he's calling for you on the stage.

01:08:21.940 So I pop up on the stage where everybody goes crazy.

01:08:26.780 Like, it was like, oh my gosh.

01:08:28.780 And so I walk over, I was like, yeah, I'm like waving to the crowd.

01:08:32.840 And so I leaned, I shook his ass and said, hey, good job, Mr. Trump.

01:08:36.420 Kill it, man.

01:08:37.100 It was awesome.

01:08:38.400 And I go to pull away.

01:08:39.560 He doesn't let go of my hand.

01:08:41.920 He just holds it.

01:08:43.040 And I'm like, you're in the Trump trap.

01:08:44.280 And I'm going, uh-oh.

01:08:46.020 And he's holding it.

01:08:46.980 He goes, hey, hey, hey.

01:08:48.680 He goes, hey, I got something.

01:08:51.020 He said, do y'all know who this is?

01:08:52.920 And everybody goes, he goes, this is the biggest television star in America.

01:08:58.960 Everybody's going crazy, you know.

01:09:00.540 He said, there's a Willie Robert ducktile.

01:09:02.740 He said, I got one question for Willie.

01:09:07.020 And I'm like, yeah.

01:09:08.440 And I'm like, oh, please.

01:09:10.460 He goes, do you love Trump?

01:09:12.300 And just hands me at the microphone.

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01:10:28.640 That's the Trumpiest question ever.

01:10:46.420 Tucker, my brain is going so fast.

01:10:49.280 I'm like, because here's the situation.

01:10:51.180 We've got 10,000 people here.

01:10:53.280 They're all there to see him.

01:10:54.580 They're there to see me.

01:10:55.660 And now he's asked me this super awkward question.

01:10:59.400 I'm like, I've already endorsed Bobby Jindal.

01:11:01.680 I'm like, what am I supposed to do?

01:11:03.640 And so I lean up to the mic and I go, yeah.

01:11:08.380 Yeah, I do like me some Trump.

01:11:10.640 And everybody cheers, you know.

01:11:12.440 And I said, and Trump's behind me with his hands on my shoulder.

01:11:19.240 He's ready to like that.

01:11:21.000 If I say the wrong things, it'll throw me away.

01:11:23.320 And I said, here's the deal.

01:11:24.900 Well, me and Mr. Trump have three things in common.

01:11:29.460 We both had successful television shows.

01:11:32.400 We both were successful at business.

01:11:34.260 And we both married people that look way better than we do.

01:11:37.440 Thank you, Oklahoma City.

01:11:38.680 I'm out here.

01:11:41.840 And so I walk off to the deal.

01:11:43.840 And I'm still just like literally kind of shaking from the whole experience.

01:11:47.700 And I get in the stairway and my buddy's going, oh, my gosh, I can't believe that just happened.

01:11:54.000 And my phone just immediately starts going crazy, just buzzing, buzzing.

01:11:59.020 And so I'm looking at it and I'm like, oh, no, you know, what have I started now?

01:12:04.180 It's all my buddies going, oh, my gosh, we just saw you on TV.

01:12:06.640 Oh, my God, you're on TV.

01:12:07.660 And when I'm sending a screenshot, Trump's behind me with a sign, you know, and he's behind me like this.

01:12:12.640 And then there's my wife's.

01:12:14.500 And I went, oh, no.

01:12:16.320 And she said, did you just endorse Donald Trump for president?

01:12:20.400 And so I just screenshot the picture with Trump.

01:12:22.960 I sent it to her and I said, no, why would you say that?

01:12:26.100 She was like, do not get on stage.

01:12:28.200 And there I am on the stage.

01:12:30.020 And the next day, I got in an Uber car in Oklahoma City to go to the airport.

01:12:37.880 I'm sitting right beside this driver, little old guy.

01:12:41.460 He looks at me, goes, what did you fellas do last night?

01:12:44.780 And I said, we went to the Oklahoma State Fair.

01:12:47.900 He goes, so did I.

01:12:50.080 He goes, I went to see Donald Trump.

01:12:52.960 I said, did you?

01:12:53.760 He goes, he's going to be the next president of the United States.

01:12:55.940 I said, you think so?

01:12:56.860 He said, oh, yeah.

01:12:58.040 Oh, yeah.

01:12:58.560 We believe in him.

01:12:59.500 He's going to be the president.

01:13:01.200 And I said, do you see that dude that got up in the middle of the speech?

01:13:05.620 I'm just far from his face.

01:13:07.600 He goes, you know who that was?

01:13:09.120 Willie Robertson from Duck Dynasty.

01:13:11.160 He flew in just to endorse Donald Trump for president.

01:13:15.920 And I said, really?

01:13:17.140 He goes, oh, yeah.

01:13:18.060 He's a huge fan of Mr. Trump.

01:13:19.900 Yeah, he's a big television guy.

01:13:22.220 And I said, sir, do you know who I am?

01:13:26.400 He looks at me, goes, no idea.

01:13:29.500 I said, I'm that dude.

01:13:31.640 I was on the stage.

01:13:33.860 And I thought he was going to freak out.

01:13:35.040 He goes, you had a different bandana on.

01:13:39.800 I said, I did have a different bandana guy.

01:13:42.220 He goes, yeah, yeah.

01:13:43.160 I didn't recognize you with that other bandana on.

01:13:47.180 That's how I met Trump.

01:13:48.560 Have you ever met him again?

01:13:49.500 I have, yeah.

01:13:51.140 I saw him a couple more times.

01:13:52.700 He did, well, Don Jr. came to the house and hunted.

01:13:57.100 That one we set up.

01:13:59.000 We set up Phil.

01:14:00.900 Well, Phil made me so mad, my dad.

01:14:03.640 So, Dad, I go.

01:14:06.020 So, Don Jr. is going to come duck out with us.

01:14:08.360 He goes, I'm coming down.

01:14:09.460 Let's duck out.

01:14:10.000 It's perfect.

01:14:10.500 We set it up.

01:14:11.400 Well, I'm going to Mexico for my anniversary.

01:14:14.280 Four days.

01:14:15.040 Four days I'm in Mexico.

01:14:15.840 So, I go to Mexico.

01:14:18.920 Yeah, and your phones are all jacked up down there.

01:14:20.700 You know, it's like numbers come in.

01:14:23.100 So, I'm leaving the Mexico airport, coming to America.

01:14:27.180 I get this call.

01:14:28.240 I don't, but it doesn't say who it is.

01:14:30.020 I answer it.

01:14:31.000 This dude is talking so fast.

01:14:33.120 I'm like, he is nowhere within a thousand miles of where I live in the south.

01:14:38.200 It was a northern accent.

01:14:39.540 He is, and I'm like, now, I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, slow down, slow down.

01:14:43.320 Who is this?

01:14:44.320 He goes, it's Don Jr.

01:14:46.800 I said, all right, what's up?

01:14:48.160 I said, oh, we on, huh, Don?

01:14:49.520 He goes, I don't know if I can come.

01:14:52.020 I don't know.

01:14:53.020 We're still, we've got to figure out.

01:14:55.300 I said, oh, what happened?

01:14:57.420 He was like, because of what your dad did.

01:15:00.300 I'm like, I've been gone for four days.

01:15:02.720 I'm like, four days.

01:15:04.260 Who has he offended?

01:15:05.380 What has he done?

01:15:06.480 And I can't understand this about my dad.

01:15:08.400 He lives on the end of a dead-end street, does not have a cell phone, does not have a computer.

01:15:12.960 But somehow he can get messages out all over the world, like instant.

01:15:18.020 It's amazing how he can do this.

01:15:20.760 I'm like, what did he do?

01:15:21.680 He said, he endorsed Ted Cruz.

01:15:24.640 I said, no.

01:15:26.620 I was like, where did that come from?

01:15:29.360 He goes, there's commercials.

01:15:31.800 I said, there's commercials?

01:15:33.400 In four days, he has met Ted Cruz, and he has endorsed Ted Cruz.

01:15:37.460 And there's commercials.

01:15:38.220 So he goes, yes, they're playing right now.

01:15:40.780 So I pull up the commercial.

01:15:42.220 Phil's in the duck blind.

01:15:46.200 So it's Ted Cruz.

01:15:47.740 And they've all got a face button on Ted Cruz.

01:15:50.180 He's got this face button.

01:15:51.700 But he doesn't look like he's in play.

01:15:53.600 He's like, he looks scared to death.

01:15:58.000 He's like, everyone's like, got shoes in their back, you know, spits come out of their mouth.

01:16:02.220 And then there's Ted Cruz, like the dude who's smiling at a face button.

01:16:08.060 And so Phil goes, we're voting for Ted Cruz.

01:16:11.440 He's a brother in Christ.

01:16:13.420 We're all voting for him.

01:16:14.980 And it insinuates, like, we're all.

01:16:17.280 Like, the whole Duck Dicey crew is voting for him.

01:16:20.200 I'm not there, obviously.

01:16:21.160 I'm in Mexico.

01:16:22.840 I went, oh, my gosh.

01:16:24.720 So I call the house.

01:16:27.160 Mom answers the phone.

01:16:29.540 I said, Mom, where's Phil?

01:16:32.280 He's in the woods.

01:16:34.280 I said, well, crap, I got to talk to him.

01:16:37.420 She goes, hey, you can go try to find him.

01:16:39.060 I said, she goes, what's wrong with you?

01:16:40.980 I said, he just made a commercial with Ted Cruz.

01:16:44.640 Nobody, these are things you have to tell me.

01:16:47.060 Like, you know what I'm saying?

01:16:47.660 You have to let me in on.

01:16:49.540 And she goes, oh, no, he knew he was going to be mad over that.

01:16:52.560 He knew you liked Trump.

01:16:54.280 But, you know, Ted Cruz showed up with a bunch of TV cameras.

01:16:57.580 And I don't know, that next thing I know.

01:16:59.680 And I said, well, Mom, he said we're all voting for him.

01:17:02.960 We're not all voting.

01:17:04.500 And she goes, no, no, no.

01:17:06.160 He didn't mean all you boys.

01:17:08.640 He meant all the Christians.

01:17:10.820 I said, Mom, I'm a Christian.

01:17:13.740 Well, you know what I mean.

01:17:14.800 So, okay, so we set up.

01:17:21.040 So Don Jr. finally, he's like, all right.

01:17:24.180 Because he was like, I'm not coming down there if you're endorsing.

01:17:26.980 You know, it was awkward.

01:17:29.340 So I said, oh, we're going to set up Dad good.

01:17:31.360 So we're going to burn him on this one.

01:17:33.180 Don Jr. comes down, duck hunts.

01:17:35.200 And, you know, he lights out.

01:17:37.440 Oh, yeah, yeah.

01:17:38.760 And I knew it.

01:17:39.940 So, you know, his hook's going now.

01:17:41.180 So Dad's blown away.

01:17:42.300 Yeah, that's good.

01:17:43.500 By what a good shot Don is.

01:17:45.340 Yeah.

01:17:45.700 Oh, yeah.

01:17:46.320 And so I reached out to Hannity.

01:17:50.200 I said, Hannity, I said, put me and Phil on the show.

01:17:55.480 I'm backing Trump.

01:17:57.840 He's backing Cruz, apparently.

01:18:00.380 And I said, I'm going to set that sucker up.

01:18:02.620 So we get on the show.

01:18:04.860 Dad and I are going after it.

01:18:07.140 And I said, hang on.

01:18:07.940 I said, I got one question to ask Phil since we're on the show.

01:18:12.640 I said, Phil recently went duck hunting with Ted Cruz.

01:18:15.700 And he also went hunting with Trump.

01:18:17.120 I just said Trump.

01:18:17.880 I didn't say Don.

01:18:18.480 I just said Trump.

01:18:19.700 I said, Dad, who exactly is the better hunter?

01:18:23.560 Phil said, ain't a doubt about it.

01:18:25.780 That cat from New York can shoot, son.

01:18:28.880 So I got him saying that Cruz wasn't a good duck hunter.

01:18:31.520 Because I asked Dad.

01:18:32.540 He said, oh, yeah, he couldn't hit the broadside of a bar.

01:18:34.500 And finally, Cruz dropped out, thank goodness.

01:18:39.600 And so then Phil came on board.

01:18:43.060 He did.

01:18:43.360 Has he been on board ever since?

01:18:44.600 He has been.

01:18:47.060 He has been.

01:18:48.380 I mean, is there anyone in the world that, I mean, I think things have changed since then, of course.

01:18:53.040 But like the world that you live in is probably pretty much 100% Trump at this point.

01:18:56.380 But, yeah, I mean, down there, yeah, if you're there.

01:19:00.220 Yeah.

01:19:01.500 Yeah, I mean, I think it's, well, now it is for sure.

01:19:05.840 Like, did you have a lot of friends voting Kamala Harris?

01:19:10.640 Yeah.

01:19:11.240 I mean, well, just because I know a lot of people outside of Louisiana.

01:19:15.600 No, I mean in Louisiana.

01:19:16.600 Yeah, all my TV friends.

01:19:18.040 I mean, yeah, I've done tons of TV.

01:19:19.660 I mean, so, yeah, I've got friends all over who were, and we had great debates.

01:19:25.460 But it's the way it should be.

01:19:26.800 Like, we debate.

01:19:27.740 We love each other.

01:19:28.460 We're friends.

01:19:29.800 And I can certainly look at Trump and call them, like, that doesn't make sense, or that's not how I feel, or that's not what I would say, or that's ugly, or that's unkind, or whatever it is.

01:19:40.640 And so, and this year I was staying out of it.

01:19:43.720 I really was, because of the book.

01:19:45.820 Because when I wrote this book and I said, I don't want to get pulled in.

01:19:49.300 I want this message to come out.

01:19:51.620 You know?

01:19:51.760 Yeah.

01:19:51.960 I want the mess of the gospel.

01:19:53.080 And I don't want it to get gummed up.

01:19:57.000 And I understand, you know, because I was involved.

01:19:58.840 I mean, I was the first speaker in the 2016 convention.

01:20:02.900 I was the first.

01:20:03.760 You were?

01:20:04.920 You don't remember?

01:20:06.100 No.

01:20:06.740 That powerful message that I gave?

01:20:08.800 Golly, Tucker, where were you?

01:20:10.220 I think I was just in a cloud of euphoria.

01:20:13.440 I was the first speaker.

01:20:15.060 And now, you've got to remember 16.

01:20:17.820 When I went out there, they were like, all right, look, we don't know how this is going

01:20:21.280 to go.

01:20:21.560 Remember?

01:20:21.800 Because they were fighting.

01:20:22.880 They didn't know whether they were going to walk off.

01:20:24.800 Oh, yeah.

01:20:25.620 So, they were like, good luck, Willie.

01:20:28.000 Because I was the first guy out.

01:20:29.240 Like, I was the first guy on the stage.

01:20:31.380 And Don Jeter called and he said, hey, my father wants you to speak at the convention.

01:20:34.580 And I was like, and I was gathering my breath to say no.

01:20:40.340 Because I was just going to be like, because in my mind, I thought it was like 45 minutes.

01:20:44.720 I was like, I don't have 45 minutes in me on politics, you know.

01:20:48.380 And I'm going, and I said, let me check my schedule.

01:20:52.520 That's what I said.

01:20:53.100 Let me check my schedule.

01:20:54.760 And he goes, okay, well, check your schedule and they'll get back with you.

01:20:57.440 So, like the next day, someone calls, some lady calls and says, hey, so we've got you

01:21:01.580 scheduled.

01:21:02.060 You're the first speaker.

01:21:03.020 And I'm fixing to tell her, like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, I didn't say yes, you know.

01:21:08.600 And she goes, you're the first one up, you go for three minutes.

01:21:11.340 And I went, three minutes?

01:21:13.240 That's a commercial break.

01:21:14.400 Yeah, of course I'll do three minutes, you know.

01:21:16.740 And so, I was, yeah, I was the first speaker in the 16th.

01:21:19.940 What'd you say?

01:21:21.680 I can't even remember.

01:21:23.700 I mean, it was nothing.

01:21:24.580 It was like, I really don't.

01:21:26.160 Did you think he was going to win that year?

01:21:28.140 I did.

01:21:29.080 Did you think he was going to win this year?

01:21:30.560 I did.

01:21:32.200 Why?

01:21:33.380 Well, I thought he had a really good, I mean, I was a little, I called it at 8.33 Central

01:21:40.940 time that night.

01:21:42.900 When I saw Virginia and North Carolina, I said, it's over.

01:21:46.820 Virginia was close.

01:21:47.580 I was like, it's over.

01:21:48.720 Yeah.

01:21:49.200 I mean, I just, I wasn't sure about North Carolina.

01:21:51.600 That was the only state that confuses me sometimes.

01:21:53.940 But Virginia, I mean, I think he was winning, like, you know, early on.

01:21:57.900 I was like, oh.

01:21:58.460 Well, it's, and I told my family, I texted my friends, and Trump wins.

01:22:03.900 It's over.

01:22:04.500 But yeah, I had a good, I had a good sense about it.

01:22:10.540 It just, it felt like it did in 16.

01:22:12.880 It felt like, I was just kind of looking at the culture and looking at what people were

01:22:16.720 saying.

01:22:17.020 I was like, he's got a lot of people that are, you know.

01:22:20.040 Because it wasn't as, it wasn't as weird as it was before.

01:22:23.100 Like, that was kind of cool.

01:22:24.600 It was like, you weren't ostracized as much.

01:22:27.540 I mean, 16, I mean, there was, it was, people did not like him in 20.

01:22:33.120 Oh, my gosh.

01:22:34.340 But you had that COVID, I mean, the whole COVID.

01:22:36.800 And I said that year, probably, earlier that year, somebody asked me who I thought was going

01:22:40.960 to win.

01:22:41.100 I said, oh, Trump.

01:22:42.060 I said, Trump's got this, there's no way he can lose.

01:22:44.900 The economy's strong.

01:22:46.400 We're safe.

01:22:47.040 We're not in a war.

01:22:47.620 I said, that's it.

01:22:48.520 That's game over.

01:22:49.280 I said, unless something really weird happens.

01:22:51.540 I said that.

01:22:52.320 Like, they manufacture a virus in China.

01:22:54.020 And then the weird thing happened.

01:22:56.120 And there you go.

01:22:57.820 And, but I went to bed last time thinking, I went to bed in 20 thinking, yeah, I was

01:23:03.900 like, oh, it's over.

01:23:05.060 Oh, so you fell asleep before they shut down.

01:23:06.760 Yeah, I woke up and I was like, uh-oh.

01:23:07.840 The polling places.

01:23:09.720 Yeah, I was like, uh-oh.

01:23:11.000 So here's a question you shouldn't have to think about, but probably do.

01:23:13.800 What would you do if your family needed life-saving medication and you couldn't get any?

01:23:21.600 You hate to think you're going to face that.

01:23:23.740 We depend on our supply chains all the way from Asia to here, thousands of miles across

01:23:27.920 the Pacific Ocean.

01:23:29.260 But let's be honest.

01:23:30.460 That chain is fragile.

01:23:32.140 Just one weather event, one container ship accident, an unexpected crisis, a war on the

01:23:36.800 brink of a couple.

01:23:37.460 And suddenly you can't get the medication that you need, that your family needs.

01:23:41.540 Now, people are going to tell you, don't worry about it.

01:23:43.420 Calm down.

01:23:44.460 Everything is fine.

01:23:46.160 All right.

01:23:47.620 But why not spend a little bit of money to make sure everything actually will be fine?

01:23:51.760 And that's where the Jace case comes in.

01:23:54.540 J-A-S-E case.

01:23:56.680 It's not paranoid.

01:23:57.920 It's planning.

01:23:59.220 The Jace case is a simple, portable supply of emergency medications, ones you actually

01:24:03.940 will need, that you can keep at home so you're totally prepared.

01:24:07.460 It's better to be too early than too late.

01:24:09.820 Though at this point, nobody thinks we're going to be too early with this.

01:24:12.140 Check it out for yourself.

01:24:12.920 Go to Jace.com, J-A-S-E.com, and use the code Tucker for a discount.

01:24:17.980 That's Jace.com, promo code Tucker.

01:24:20.500 You should do it.

01:24:21.680 We have.

01:24:22.160 Did anyone in, that you know in Louisiana have questions about that election?

01:24:41.900 2020.

01:24:42.420 2020.

01:24:44.560 All of them.

01:24:45.980 It's kind of what I thought.

01:24:47.800 All of them.

01:24:49.260 We've all got questions.

01:24:50.960 But I don't understand what it is.

01:24:52.620 Like, I was, like, I've listened to people over time.

01:24:56.400 There's tons of people who question that stuff.

01:24:58.700 Always.

01:24:59.640 They question, like, was it done right?

01:25:04.660 Was it, you know, I mean, I didn't realize it was a crime to question just to make sure

01:25:10.900 that, hey, did everything, did y'all do that right?

01:25:13.660 Because it seemed strange, you know.

01:25:16.800 Maybe it wasn't, but.

01:25:18.540 It was strange.

01:25:19.400 Yeah.

01:25:19.720 Yeah.

01:25:20.840 I think the people in Louisiana are all like, hmm.

01:25:24.620 You know.

01:25:25.520 Yeah.

01:25:25.920 It was pretty obvious.

01:25:26.540 And a few cities were waiting, though.

01:25:28.060 We'll let you know tomorrow.

01:25:29.540 How much are we behind?

01:25:32.060 Yeah.

01:25:32.540 They had to tally the number of votes they needed.

01:25:34.760 So what's the new show?

01:25:37.160 Yeah.

01:25:37.520 We have a, we are getting back into production.

01:25:40.820 It's kind of like the next generation of Duck Dynasty.

01:25:44.140 So my kids are older.

01:25:45.140 Or, well, so since 2017, 2024, yeah, a lot's happened.

01:25:52.160 The cast has grown up.

01:25:55.360 And then everybody else is still around.

01:25:57.520 And so, yeah.

01:25:58.320 So back with A&E, we met and they said, hey, you guys interested in, you know, kind of redoing

01:26:06.400 the show?

01:26:07.040 And felt like the time was right.

01:26:09.480 Met with the family, prayed about it.

01:26:10.780 Was like, I think so.

01:26:12.020 The kids were excited and said, yeah, let's show, you know.

01:26:14.840 Realize, Tucker, what, you know, we talk about it's a long show and it's like, it's

01:26:20.060 hard work, whatever, you know.

01:26:22.500 I mean, it's a lot.

01:26:24.200 But, man, when you talk to people and they tell you, like, how much that meant to them

01:26:28.220 and how much, I can't tell you how many people just, like, it was what my dad and I watched

01:26:34.960 together.

01:26:35.540 Yeah.

01:26:35.620 And when my mom passed away, it was like the, you know, it was the only thing that we

01:26:39.060 could laugh at together.

01:26:40.280 And we watched as a family.

01:26:41.220 I mean, I have like 25-year-olds, even here.

01:26:44.260 I mean, these kids are like, you know, when I was 18, I watched every show y'all had and

01:26:48.020 was just, you know, watching the prayer at the end and just watching our family be positive

01:26:52.300 with our, you know, the roles were correct.

01:26:55.500 And it wasn't a lot of, you know, just darkness and stuff that people watch and it wasn't

01:27:00.940 just a train wreck.

01:27:01.980 And so it's really inspiring.

01:27:04.060 You're like, oh, man, you know, it's good to make something, especially when it came out

01:27:09.060 originally.

01:27:09.760 You know, it was pretty much a little bright light amongst a lot of, you know, some dark

01:27:15.220 stuff out there, some dark TV.

01:27:16.600 So I think when you can do that and you can provide that for people.

01:27:21.600 There's no pressure at all from your corporate masters to change anything or make it different.

01:27:28.560 No, I mean, I actually, I mean, to be honest with you, I feel stronger now than I would then

01:27:32.900 because they know who we are, you know?

01:27:35.080 Yeah.

01:27:35.380 I mean, they know what we're all about.

01:27:36.340 It's not like, I mean, back then they didn't know.

01:27:38.560 They were like, I think they're religious.

01:27:40.080 I think, you know, like, but now obviously over the past, well, crap, since 2000, you

01:27:45.980 know, last 12 years, you know, where we stand, you know, what we're, what our morals are,

01:27:50.700 you know, what's important to us.

01:27:52.200 And, uh, and we have a lot of followers, you know what I'm saying?

01:27:55.180 Like we have social media for Sadie has millions of people, you know, my kids have followers

01:27:59.580 that, you know, so a lot of people are interested in that and it's, it's, they're interested in,

01:28:04.760 uh, I think they want to be entertained, but they also, you know, I think they learn stuff.

01:28:09.660 I think they can watch and learn, you know, a lot of people that watched our show are

01:28:13.440 like, well, we never prayed, like we never prayed before a meal.

01:28:17.320 We didn't even know, you know, and we started trying that, you know, probably more often

01:28:22.400 than not, even the praying, they rarely ever sat down and even ate together anymore.

01:28:29.000 That's a gone, it's the saddest thing.

01:28:31.360 They were like, we never even, we never even have dinner.

01:28:34.060 Everybody's just grabbing it and going, you know, meet you there, meet you at the deal,

01:28:37.400 go to the ballpark, get, you know, and so this whole idea of just sitting down and just

01:28:41.880 spending time with each other at dinner was becoming a foreign concept.

01:28:47.180 And so I think people can learn and they can be like, oh, that's, you know, uh, maybe they

01:28:51.840 can't, they don't have the family we do.

01:28:53.780 Maybe they don't have, uh, maybe everybody doesn't live there like that, but they can

01:28:58.040 kind of live through that and kind of, you know, start their own, you know, traditions or

01:29:02.400 doing something more as a family and realizing, you know, the importance of it and, and then

01:29:07.380 also just taking a break and not, you know, I think what I love about diagnostic was we

01:29:11.720 didn't take ourselves too seriously.

01:29:13.480 We had fun, we laughed and, oh God, I mean, do we need that?

01:29:17.440 I mean, we need, we need some, you know, everybody's so serious.

01:29:20.200 I think if you had written this book 10 years ago, it would have seemed pretty weird.

01:29:24.440 You know, why is the reality TV show writing a book about spreading the gospel does not

01:29:31.040 seem weird now.

01:29:31.880 Do you think the country's changed?

01:29:34.620 Um, I think it's changing.

01:29:38.120 Yeah, I think it's, I think it's certainly changing.

01:29:40.540 I think people are looking for answers.

01:29:41.960 That's why I wrote the book.

01:29:42.940 I think, um, cause I think we get so lethargic and some of this was even like, even in churches,

01:29:48.620 they get, they just get lethargic and they get off the, you know, you got to know what

01:29:53.280 your goal is and what kind of what you're here for and, uh, what's your mission, you

01:29:57.220 know, what's your mission in life?

01:29:59.180 Well, and I take my mission from Matthew 28, which is the, it's labeled as the great commission.

01:30:05.860 Then Jesus says, go out and make disciples of all nations, baptize people, teach people

01:30:10.080 three things, three specific ideas, make disciples, baptize people, teach people.

01:30:17.200 So those are the last things he said before he left, like, make sure you do this.

01:30:20.460 So when that's your mission, um, you just think about what you've got to do to accomplish

01:30:26.600 those three things.

01:30:28.120 You probably have to have conversations with people.

01:30:30.680 If you're going to make a disciple out of them, if you're going to baptize them, if

01:30:32.980 you're going to teach them, you're going to have to have some sort of conversation.

01:30:36.400 And so what I find is people, if your mission in life is, uh, as a, as a Christian, if you're

01:30:41.440 like, well, I try to go to church as often as I can.

01:30:44.960 I try to be a good person.

01:30:46.040 Nothing in and of itself wrong with that.

01:30:49.100 That's not a mission.

01:30:51.140 And what happens is the mission, because it comes a little self.

01:30:54.540 I go to church so I can listen, so I can learn, so I can try to get through my week, you know,

01:30:58.840 and everything's becomes inward.

01:31:00.360 Those three things Jesus said were outward.

01:31:02.460 It's out, out, out.

01:31:04.220 Other people, other people, other people, not just you.

01:31:07.200 It's other people.

01:31:08.360 And, uh, again, back to my father, who was sitting in a bar, the guy drives out there.

01:31:12.660 Why?

01:31:13.280 Why?

01:31:13.940 He's not going to be a member of his church.

01:31:15.960 He doesn't have any money.

01:31:17.880 He's a reprobate, you know, who's got a terrible reputation.

01:31:22.760 What drove him to drive up there, that hour drive, walk into that bar?

01:31:28.140 What drove him to do that?

01:31:29.920 It was just for him.

01:31:31.920 Just for that guy.

01:31:33.560 And I thought, I thought, wow, I don't know if I would, would I drive up?

01:31:38.040 Would I be like, you know?

01:31:39.640 But he did that, it literally changed my life.

01:31:43.760 It changed my whole family's life.

01:31:46.080 And if that would have been it, I'm not a big prosperity guy.

01:31:49.740 Like, and look what God has done.

01:31:51.000 You know, look at what he gave us.

01:31:52.480 It paid off.

01:31:53.100 It didn't matter.

01:31:54.020 If it just changed our life and kept our family together, worth it.

01:31:58.320 Nobody knows if we aren't worth it.

01:32:00.640 I got to see my dad and grow up with two parents, worth it, you know?

01:32:04.680 And you look over time as then dad took that and then never went about this for money or fame or anything.

01:32:11.120 In fact, really pushed that away more than embraced it.

01:32:15.880 Even when I told you the show, and he's like, no, you know?

01:32:20.380 And that was a little different, too, with us.

01:32:22.960 Like, we didn't go, an email was sent to us.

01:32:25.620 A company came to us.

01:32:28.000 The network came to us.

01:32:29.780 We weren't trying to go become famous.

01:32:32.920 Right.

01:32:33.660 And so you see a lot today, you know, people are like, I'll do whatever it takes to get famous, you know?

01:32:38.780 And so there's no authenticity there.

01:32:40.380 It's like, we want you to do this.

01:32:41.920 Fine, I'll do it.

01:32:42.660 Will I be famous?

01:32:43.360 Yes, then I'll do it, you know?

01:32:44.740 Why would you want to be famous?

01:32:47.900 Why would who?

01:32:49.060 Anyone.

01:32:49.720 Oh.

01:32:51.580 I don't know.

01:32:52.240 It seems like a lot of people, I mean, from social media.

01:32:54.380 Yeah, people do.

01:32:54.980 Yeah, people want to be famous.

01:32:56.020 What do you think of being?

01:32:56.680 You are famous.

01:32:57.320 What do you think of it?

01:33:00.280 It has its good parts about it.

01:33:02.920 What are those?

01:33:04.720 The people I've been able to meet.

01:33:06.960 Yeah.

01:33:07.800 I wouldn't know you if I wasn't, you know, you wouldn't have invited me on this podcast had I not had a TV show, you know?

01:33:14.980 I don't know, I ran into you in an elevator in Nashville.

01:33:16.860 That's true.

01:33:17.720 But you thought I was a homeless guy.

01:33:19.400 I did, yeah.

01:33:20.280 You put money in my coffee cup.

01:33:22.020 I did.

01:33:22.520 Which was filled with dip spit.

01:33:24.660 I spit in my cup and you said, you looked at me and you said, did you spin your cup?

01:33:32.440 First word you said to me, you said, did you spin that cup?

01:33:34.620 I said, I did.

01:33:34.660 Anyone who dips in an elevator is a potential friend of mine.

01:33:37.880 That's how I feel about it.

01:33:39.260 And you started doing your little maniacal laugh and you started laughing so hard.

01:33:43.720 And it was so funny because of all the people I was expecting them to see, it wasn't you.

01:33:49.340 Catch you deal.

01:33:49.960 I didn't expect to catch Willie Robertson dipping in an elevator, but that was it.

01:33:53.480 I was headed to my room.

01:33:55.280 I had been promoting this book and you happened to be there as well, which is how this all ended up.

01:34:01.440 And I think God, you know, I don't know.

01:34:03.040 I think God works like that.

01:34:04.180 I think he puts people together and, you know, just seems too weird to me not.

01:34:09.540 So I think there's those opportunities that people have and they meet and some of you take advantage of, some of you don't, some of you miss, some of you're like, oh, crap, you know.

01:34:16.880 And, but I just, I don't know.

01:34:18.620 I mean, well, he did that in the Bible, you know, there was, there was things moving around.

01:34:25.540 And so, so it could be for that person, could be for someone else, could be for something completely different, you know, some situation that maybe needs to, to get out.

01:34:34.860 And so, but it was interesting that I had written this book, I had decided this year, I'm not jumping in this book, even though it was so tempting.

01:34:44.140 Everybody tried to get me to, you know, let's go, you know, and, and I'd really just said, no, I'm not.

01:34:51.120 And I'm, I'm just going to promote this book.

01:34:53.580 And then, and then I'd meet you and then you said, hey, you should come on the podcast.

01:34:59.160 And it was scheduled for a few months ago.

01:35:01.840 And I went, I'm going to get pulled into the politics.

01:35:05.520 I was like, I said, I'm going to get pulled into this thing.

01:35:08.680 And, and then as it turned around and spun around, we still did podcasts after the election.

01:35:15.260 And then, you know, and that was kind of the commitment I made.

01:35:18.440 Just don't get so involved.

01:35:20.280 Because I didn't want the mess.

01:35:21.200 I don't, I don't care what, I don't, I really don't care.

01:35:23.100 Like, if it's the gospel or some political agenda, I'm going with the gospel every time.

01:35:28.800 Because this is the power.

01:35:30.140 This is, you know, if we can change people's, you know, I just saw it.

01:35:34.520 I mean, it changed me, but it like somebody like my father can change people's lives and turn them into completely different people.

01:35:42.120 And so that's what I want to get to people, you know.

01:35:45.020 Politics turns people into completely different people too, but rarely for the better.

01:35:49.200 Right.

01:35:49.500 But, I mean, it, it has its place and it, you know, and I, and I'm not casting aspersions on people who, you know, want our country to be, you know, a great country.

01:36:01.540 And, but we're, you know, I'm not even one that says we have, we have to, everything's got to be, like, you have to have Christians in every position.

01:36:15.000 I mean, I mean, no, that's okay.

01:36:17.440 I mean, we can work together and figure that out.

01:36:19.580 Let the gospel do what it does and let politics do what it does and let government, you know.

01:36:24.360 So, almost like render under Caesar what is Caesar's and give to God.

01:36:28.980 Exactly.

01:36:30.300 Where do you get that?

01:36:31.740 Yeah.

01:36:32.800 Because, and that's the thing, had, back to mission.

01:36:36.260 So, I'm into that mission.

01:36:38.320 Make disciples, baptize people, teach people.

01:36:41.120 Not to, you know, I think if Jesus wanted us to just make sure your government is, he would have talked about it, right?

01:36:49.160 Yeah.

01:36:49.320 When I said, let's lay out a plan and all that because it was, you know, under these governmental things that he was going to end up being crucified anyway.

01:36:58.060 So, and those things are, they're, they're of the world.

01:37:01.640 I mean, they're, you know, they're here and they come and they die and they go away and they change and, you know, stuff happens.

01:37:07.540 And, you know, I was like, if we, if that's where we end up, and I do think there's a lot of darkness for sure, but they need the gospel.

01:37:15.360 They don't need a better program from D.C., you know, and that's what will change it.

01:37:21.740 Oh, wow, look, now families are staying together and, you know, it's not going to be, it's not going to be that way.

01:37:27.980 And it's going to be when the church wakes up and decides to go out and, and have that kind of mission, you know, is to go after.

01:37:36.560 Or, but we can't hate each other.

01:37:38.680 That's the problem.

01:37:39.200 We can't hate each other because that's the deal, man.

01:37:41.400 I can't, uh, and I saw that so much in this one.

01:37:44.760 God, I got roasted.

01:37:46.080 I mean, people would get my face and if I said the wrong, like if I said, oh, I'm not, I'm writing this book and I'm not doing as much with, and people would just be like, what?

01:37:56.800 This country is, we're not going to have a country tomorrow.

01:38:00.000 And, but what I don't like about the country, it's, it's like my fault.

01:38:05.080 It's like, like they're telling me it's my fault that I'm not, I'm like, how's it my fault, you know?

01:38:10.060 And that's where we got to.

01:38:11.180 And then it was just bullying everyone.

01:38:12.660 Everybody's just bullying everybody.

01:38:14.480 I mean, you certainly saw that with, you know, the Democrats being bullied or you better vote this way, you know, like, like we're telling you what to do.

01:38:21.620 And I'm just not good at people telling me what to do.

01:38:23.840 I'm like, don't tell me what to do.

01:38:25.760 Don't tell, you know, vote for, but now it's like, no,

01:38:29.800 you've got to do more.

01:38:30.820 We, you know, you've got to go out and, you know, and do all this.

01:38:34.360 I understand their, their passion and all that, but we've got to let people.

01:38:38.920 And some of that's the, it's their job is to win the vote.

01:38:42.740 You know what I'm saying?

01:38:43.060 It doesn't answer the deepest questions.

01:38:44.320 Like what happens when you die?

01:38:46.360 Right.

01:38:46.920 It doesn't address that.

01:38:48.140 So when you die, yeah.

01:38:49.520 Yeah.

01:38:49.760 When you die.

01:38:50.480 When you die.

01:38:51.560 So my last question is if, I do think a lot of people are all of a sudden wondering, like,

01:38:56.920 is there something beyond what we can see, hear, feel, and taste?

01:39:02.340 I mean, is there, you know, is there a spiritual realm?

01:39:05.220 Is there a God?

01:39:07.000 And I, I, people all around me are asking those questions.

01:39:11.180 What would you recommend to them?

01:39:13.160 Like how to pursue that?

01:39:16.180 You, something stirs in you and you think, wow, maybe I should learn more.

01:39:20.280 Right.

01:39:21.220 I mean, I found those answers in the, in the Bible and particularly in the New Testament.

01:39:27.660 You know, that's where I found those answers.

01:39:29.420 It comes down to the faith.

01:39:31.020 Like you've got to have this faith and you're going to have to jump and believe something

01:39:38.900 that you can't see.

01:39:40.380 It's interesting how people can't do that.

01:39:42.280 I remember I was talking to a guy one time.

01:39:43.760 I was having one of these conversations.

01:39:45.020 I don't know if this story's in the book, but there's a lot in there.

01:39:47.460 We're having this story and he's like, I don't, I don't believe in faith.

01:39:49.700 I don't, I don't see it.

01:39:51.300 I don't believe it.

01:39:51.940 You know?

01:39:53.120 And he was, he had just gotten married and I said, and we're at a, we're at a hunting

01:39:56.860 camp.

01:39:57.260 And I said, where's your wife right now?

01:39:59.340 He's like, she's at home.

01:40:00.800 And she's, I said, I bet she's with another guy.

01:40:05.120 And he said, no.

01:40:06.740 I love how you proselytize.

01:40:08.740 Yeah.

01:40:09.140 And he said, no, she's not.

01:40:10.540 And he gets, I can tell he's mad.

01:40:13.280 He's like, well, yeah.

01:40:14.260 He's been married like six months.

01:40:15.480 I said, oh no, for sure.

01:40:16.820 She's, she's with another guy.

01:40:18.620 Like, no doubt.

01:40:19.880 And he goes, no, she's not.

01:40:22.040 You know, what are you, what are you doing?

01:40:23.600 I said, how do you know she's not?

01:40:27.440 He goes, because I trust her.

01:40:29.540 And I said, so you do have faith in something that you can't see.

01:40:35.220 And he went, I've never thought about it that way.

01:40:38.200 He was an atheist.

01:40:38.940 He was, he said, I'm an atheist.

01:40:40.120 I don't believe in any of this stuff.

01:40:42.040 And that, so it was just a small move though.

01:40:44.900 We moved him off of that position.

01:40:47.600 Now we have moved him to, there are some things that even though I can't see it, I have faith.

01:40:54.000 And why do more preachers not start with that?

01:40:56.440 I bet your wife's sleeping with somebody else.

01:41:01.980 That works.

01:41:04.400 Maybe they don't go to enough hunting camps.

01:41:07.800 I mean, for me though, what, what else?

01:41:09.840 I mean, like he's an atheist.

01:41:11.680 What else to say?

01:41:12.280 Okay, good luck with that.

01:41:13.540 Let me know how that works for you.

01:41:15.180 You know, I mean, I'm trying to think of, Paul says in the New Testament,

01:41:22.880 Paul knew the gospel better than anybody who's a writer.

01:41:25.220 And he says, pray for me that the mystery of the gospel can come out of my mouth more clearly.

01:41:30.880 He's praying that it can come out more clearly.

01:41:34.160 And my question is, why?

01:41:35.120 Why is he, he knows this stuff.

01:41:37.100 Like he wrote it.

01:41:38.060 You know, he's writing because some weren't obeying it.

01:41:41.400 Some weren't getting it.

01:41:43.500 And he's going, hmm.

01:41:44.160 And so you have to keep coming at, like, keep asking more questions.

01:41:48.680 Keep, maybe I'm not asking the right questions.

01:41:50.620 I did that.

01:41:50.980 There's a story in the book, a beautiful story of a guy that I just kept, I kept trying to,

01:41:56.540 he had problems with his brain.

01:41:59.560 Like he had lesions on his, I thought he was going to die.

01:42:01.440 And I was like, he's going to die.

01:42:02.860 And I, I don't think he's a Christian.

01:42:04.880 I don't think he's a believer.

01:42:05.540 And so I'm just like, hey man, have you thought about heaven and how?

01:42:08.800 He would say the same thing every time to me.

01:42:11.100 Well, he, he who had not sinned cast the first stone.

01:42:14.800 That's what he would say.

01:42:15.660 It was, he was quoting a scripture and I knew what that meant.

01:42:18.920 That's, that's redneck for, I don't want to hear what you got to say.

01:42:23.260 I'm not interested.

01:42:24.860 And I was like, hmm.

01:42:26.120 So I could have thought, well, I tried, you know, I get to heaven.

01:42:28.800 I tried to, remember I told you four times and every time he would just divert, divert,

01:42:33.840 divert, wall.

01:42:36.040 And so finally we're in a car, we're in New York city, working on a business deal.

01:42:39.740 We're talking about money.

01:42:40.440 He's a super rich guy.

01:42:41.940 We're talking about money.

01:42:43.540 He's over at him smoking.

01:42:44.480 He's like, we're going to make so much money.

01:42:47.060 I was just like, it was just like, he was so excited about it, you know.

01:42:50.480 I look at him and I asked, I said, how, I said, how old are you?

01:42:54.180 And he said, I'm 58 years old.

01:42:56.440 And I said, I bet you're going to be dead in 14 years.

01:43:02.980 He just looks back.

01:43:04.020 I said, that was the secret.

01:43:08.620 He goes, what?

01:43:10.940 I said, I bet you're going to be dead in 14 years.

01:43:14.800 He goes, why would you say that?

01:43:16.260 And I said, the way you live.

01:43:18.600 You know, I said, but you're, I mean, I'm just guessing.

01:43:20.960 But I said, have you ever thought about that?

01:43:23.520 Like, what's going to happen then?

01:43:25.580 What happens then?

01:43:27.360 I said, we just did an investment.

01:43:28.500 I said, what are you, are you investing in anything beyond here or just here?

01:43:33.900 He goes, I've never thought about that before.

01:43:36.000 You know what he didn't say?

01:43:37.980 He who had not sinned cast the first stone.

01:43:40.180 No, it's.

01:43:40.660 We got past that.

01:43:41.380 Yeah, you did.

01:43:42.000 We finally got past that.

01:43:44.640 And I was like, if we get past that.

01:43:46.680 And so we get to the, we get to the hotel.

01:43:48.800 We're in Manhattan.

01:43:50.520 And then he goes, can you come up and tell me more about that?

01:43:54.280 I said, yeah.

01:43:54.900 So I'll go to my room.

01:43:55.620 I'll get my Bible.

01:43:56.740 I'll go to his room.

01:43:58.900 And I sit down.

01:43:59.540 And that's the, I got like seven verses.

01:44:01.440 It's not, it's not a lot.

01:44:02.180 I just, and I just start reading them to him.

01:44:05.340 He just stands up in the hotel room.

01:44:08.000 I'll never forget it.

01:44:09.620 And he yells at his wife.

01:44:10.780 She's in the bed.

01:44:11.500 He goes, I'm getting baptized.

01:44:14.600 And I was like, man, it's midnight.

01:44:16.120 We're like, we're in central.

01:44:17.060 I'm like, I don't know where I got to go find some water here, you know?

01:44:19.620 And which I was ready.

01:44:20.400 I was like, we're going to find some.

01:44:22.440 And I said, well, let's go.

01:44:24.140 I guess we're in a hotel in New York City.

01:44:27.800 I said, we'll go find some water.

01:44:29.000 He said, no, no, I got to tell everybody.

01:44:30.280 I got to tell everybody I know.

01:44:32.640 That what's fixing to happen?

01:44:35.060 This is the same guy I've been working on for years.

01:44:37.160 And he's like, he, you know.

01:44:39.200 And now he's saying, I got, and he emailed everybody.

01:44:41.720 He knows everybody.

01:44:43.500 So finally, like a month later, I show up to his house, the big house.

01:44:47.120 There's people, people from New York, people from LA, Florida.

01:44:52.860 People have shown up because he said, I'm getting baptized.

01:44:56.400 Come watch this.

01:44:57.160 And so I get there and I walk up.

01:45:00.240 He goes, everybody gabs around.

01:45:01.440 He goes, Willie.

01:45:03.180 Tell him what you told me of that hotel room that night.

01:45:06.420 And I said, yeah, no problem.

01:45:07.360 So I go through that.

01:45:10.420 So his wife gets baptized.

01:45:14.180 Daughter gets baptized.

01:45:15.720 He gets baptized.

01:45:17.380 He's anybody else.

01:45:19.260 And they just start streaming in the blue jeans, taking their boots off.

01:45:24.220 Just over and over and over and over.

01:45:28.600 Just like what's happened in the bike.

01:45:31.020 You see that in the book of Acts.

01:45:32.800 It's like 25 people that night over that one, that conversation.

01:45:37.880 But I didn't stop that conversation.

01:45:40.360 When you don't hear it, you just, you keep on.

01:45:42.340 And plus, I'm still there.

01:45:44.040 Sometimes it takes 20 minutes.

01:45:45.600 Sometimes it takes two hours.

01:45:46.820 Sometimes it takes 20 years.

01:45:48.760 Because I don't give up on anybody.

01:45:50.240 Because they didn't give up on dad.

01:45:52.900 I would have given up on Phil a long time ago.

01:45:54.820 I would have said, forget that sucker.

01:45:57.100 He needs to go to jail.

01:45:58.200 You know.

01:45:59.140 But that dude didn't give up.

01:46:00.880 His sister didn't give up on him.

01:46:02.360 That guy went up there and talked to him.

01:46:04.180 And it changed my whole life.

01:46:05.500 And so I never give up on anybody.

01:46:06.960 You never know.

01:46:07.980 You never know when that time is.

01:46:09.560 And they're like, oh, no.

01:46:11.020 And they're ready.

01:46:11.620 And they're like.

01:46:12.760 So we're just really planting the seeds.

01:46:14.780 Tucker, I'm just planting the seeds.

01:46:15.900 Because I'm ready.

01:46:16.640 I want to, you know, make disciples.

01:46:19.140 I want to baptize people.

01:46:19.880 I want to teach people.

01:46:20.600 That's what I'm doing.

01:46:21.040 So everything I look at in life, where does it fall in that category?

01:46:24.680 This book does.

01:46:25.760 The TV show does.

01:46:27.080 The stuff that my kids do.

01:46:28.480 The family stuff.

01:46:29.300 You know.

01:46:29.660 All of it can fall through there.

01:46:31.380 And that's where I want to.

01:46:32.260 It's way more than going to church and, you know, having some look and being a Christian.

01:46:37.420 Way more than that.

01:46:38.260 That's like an hour a week.

01:46:39.440 That's nothing.

01:46:41.160 Like, I'm like, how about this?

01:46:42.700 You take your hour.

01:46:43.640 Don't go to church.

01:46:44.500 I want you for the other six days.

01:46:46.400 And we'll go change the world, you know.

01:46:48.600 But people got a bad idea on that.

01:46:51.300 They're thinking, isn't it just like you show up an hour?

01:46:55.620 I mean, try that in your marriage.

01:46:57.200 Try that with your kid.

01:46:58.080 Try to see them an hour, you know, and see if that gets you enough to get through.

01:47:02.080 And so it's just a bigger idea and it's a bigger concept.

01:47:05.020 And then when you're in that moment, when you're there with people and you watch their lives change,

01:47:09.920 and then you watch the fruit of that come out of it, it's a good, it's like a high.

01:47:16.900 I mean, it's like, that's what it's all about, you know.

01:47:20.660 That's the kind of stuff to where you're then going, there is hope.

01:47:24.300 And so I live my life based on there's hope in something beyond.

01:47:28.740 If it's not, it's not.

01:47:30.200 And I've hopefully lived a great life.

01:47:32.080 I have great friends.

01:47:32.860 I've, you know, my faith and the principles of the Bible has probably kept me out of a lot of misery and hell and, you know, bad stuff.

01:47:42.240 And, uh, but I'm, I'm thinking that there is, and I'm, I see evidence everywhere.

01:47:47.480 I see evidence everywhere, you know.

01:47:49.540 Like what?

01:47:51.580 I mean, I just, I can see it in people's lives.

01:47:54.880 I can, you know, if Jesus lives in us, the Holy Spirit lives in us.

01:47:58.080 I can see it in their lives.

01:47:59.280 I can, I can see this.

01:48:01.140 I can see people doing this.

01:48:02.200 I'm like, why would you do that?

01:48:04.100 Like, why?

01:48:04.960 Like, there's no advantage.

01:48:05.920 It's not financial advantage.

01:48:07.580 I'm, I'm seeing them share and do things and sacrifice.

01:48:11.300 And I see that.

01:48:12.460 For each other.

01:48:13.060 Yeah.

01:48:13.280 For each other, for other people.

01:48:14.560 And for, you know, I can see it.

01:48:16.900 I can, I can feel it.

01:48:18.780 Like I can, at times I feel stuff too.

01:48:20.880 I feel, you know, like it just seems like, I'm like, wow, that's a lot of, I can't help but think something was going on with Trump.

01:48:31.240 Like there was a lot of weird, turn your head the right way.

01:48:37.100 Doing this, we were shooting birds today.

01:48:42.540 Yeah.

01:48:42.780 How close is that?

01:48:44.760 Too close.

01:48:45.820 I mean, to, to who knows what would happen?

01:48:49.680 Who knows what today would look like?

01:48:52.100 You know what I'm saying?

01:48:52.580 Like, who knows?

01:48:54.640 So it just, you know, I'm not, I'm just saying it looked like God was doing something there.

01:49:04.440 I don't, I don't know.

01:49:05.180 I don't know what it is.

01:49:06.000 And I don't know, you know, but that's the faith part.

01:49:08.940 I think sometimes, Tucker, we're out, I think we think our goal is to try to figure it out.

01:49:12.960 Yeah.

01:49:13.580 Like, we're like, we have to know, we got to read the signs and we got to, everybody was wanting to know, like, what's going to happen.

01:49:19.060 Even with our country, like, where will we be in 20 years?

01:49:21.340 It's like, we want to know, but there's too many factors.

01:49:23.440 Like, you know, you have to have faith.

01:49:24.320 It's impossible.

01:49:24.960 It's impossible.

01:49:25.500 You can't figure that out.

01:49:26.900 You got to live.

01:49:27.540 I can always look back and it makes sense.

01:49:29.240 I'm like, oh, wow, that made sense.

01:49:30.720 But looking forward, that's the, and if, and that's the message that I'm going to, but somebody's been sharing this message for 2000 years.

01:49:39.340 We're halfway around the globe from where it happened and still talking about it.

01:49:46.720 True.

01:49:47.220 They had no money.

01:49:48.040 They had no fame.

01:49:48.780 They weren't soldiers.

01:49:49.660 They weren't, you know, they didn't even speak the same language.

01:49:52.700 We're speaking a different language.

01:49:54.440 We are sitting here today, halfway across the globe, and we're still talking about it.

01:49:59.580 I'm still writing books about it, living our lives on it and professing it.

01:50:04.540 It just, that's a big deal.

01:50:07.620 Like, I haven't seen that with anything else.

01:50:10.480 Most everything else, 2000 years ago, we don't even know what it is.

01:50:14.440 They're gone.

01:50:15.440 You know, it's just gone.

01:50:16.560 We don't know their names.

01:50:17.460 Yeah.

01:50:17.800 Not at all.

01:50:19.540 Willie Robertson, thank you very much.

01:50:21.480 Awesome.

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The Tucker Carlson Show - November 25, 2024

Willie Robertson： The Unlikely Origin of Duck Dynasty, Willie’s New Show, & Why Trump Won

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