The Tucker Carlson Show - Zelensky’s Press Secretary Reveals All： Cocaine, Cover-ups, and the Only Obstacle Preventing Peace

00:00:00 Thank you for doing this. I'm amazed. I never thought I would speak to anyone around Zelensky.

00:00:10 And I know you're doing this at some great risk to yourself. So thank you very much.

00:00:14 So you were President Zelensky's press secretary.

00:00:18 Yes. First of all, thank you for having me. And I never expected to see myself here talking about my former boss, Volodymyr Zelensky.

00:00:26 I used to work for him for two years, since 2019 until 2021.

00:00:32 How did you wind up working for him?

00:00:36 Well, Volodymyr Zelensky announced the job via Facebook, and everybody started applying.

00:00:43 And I didn't want to apply first, because I thought he would take someone, you know,

00:00:47 nepotically.

00:00:48 Yes.

00:00:49 But there was an open application, and I went through 4,000 of applicants.

00:00:54 it's not a joke

00:00:56 and then actually I need to prove myself

00:00:59 that I can do a job

00:01:00 and that he can trust me

00:01:02 but yeah we found the common ground

00:01:04 and I think I was very faithful towards him

00:01:07 you know

00:01:07 and I supported him

00:01:11 and I supported him in 2022 0.96

00:01:12 when Russia made its large scale invasion 0.94

00:01:17 as millions of Ukrainians 1.00

00:01:19 I was grateful that he stayed in the country 1.00

00:01:21 that's why it's so

00:01:23 so strange and desperate for me to be here and to talk who he really is. I don't have personal

00:01:29 vendetta, but I believe that he is one of the biggest obstacles towards peace today. So I

00:01:36 wanted to tell the people who he is. Who is he? First of all, he's not a person whom you see on

00:01:45 camera. He's a very different person. He changes masks all the time. He is emotionally uncontrollable.

00:01:53 emotionally uncontrollable yeah he doesn't control his emotions he's often historical and

00:02:02 he thinks that every person is disposable he doesn't have empathy that he plays he's absolutely

00:02:10 insanely great actor and that brought us a lot of support in 2022 but his acting doesn't have

00:02:18 any substance and everything that he's saying it's so detached from the reality and majority

00:02:25 of the things that he's saying it's either manipulation or it's a fact that is being

00:02:30 taken from the context or it's pure lies and millions of people still believe that supporting

00:02:36 Zelensky means supporting Ukraine but today it's different and Tucker I would like to say I'm not

00:02:43 here to justify russian invasion i'm not here to justify putin what russian army is doing in

00:02:50 ukraine equals crimes against humanity yes but this war is not black and white anymore it's dark

00:02:56 and even darker we just see putin as an evil but zelensky is also an evil he's just a hidden one 0.95

00:03:03 he plays such a teddy bear you know on camera but then when the light goes off he's a grizzly bear

00:03:10 and he destroys the people it's almost surreal to recollect that almost every western leader 0.94

00:03:17 and western delegations that were coming to ukraine before the war they treated zelensky

00:03:22 as a political novice they saw he was low educated unqualified and low depth but then overnight he

00:03:29 just turned into this great face of democracy yes but it feels like the west created the myth fell

00:03:36 into it. And, you know, doesn't see doesn't that the West keeps ignoring the fact that this beneath

00:03:43 that Zelensky's rhetoric, heroic rhetoric, he keeps accumulating power. And I'm not afraid to

00:03:50 say he keeps hollowing the very same people he claims to save. It's pretty strong to say I know

00:03:58 that. But I believe that, you know, people need to understand that if you want to support Ukraine,

00:04:05 the only way to support Ukraine today

00:04:07 is to push for the peace deal.

00:04:11 This is the only way that Ukraine can survive

00:04:13 because I believe we are on the verge of extinction.

00:04:17 Somebody is talking about two, three years of war anymore.

00:04:20 It just like doesn't come up with numbers,

00:04:22 with demography, with anything,

00:04:25 with all those suffering that's happening in the country.

00:04:30 Tell me, no, no, thank you.

00:04:32 Thank you for saying that.

00:04:33 I agree. 0.98

00:04:34 I'm not Ukrainian.

00:04:35 but i don't understand the point of this i mean i have many questions about how and why it started

00:04:41 but what's beyond question is ukraine as a nation is being eliminated that's obvious to me biggest

00:04:46 country in europe so it's a big deal what are since you mentioned numbers what how many people

00:04:51 live in ukraine so when you started working for zelensky you work for the government of ukraine

00:04:56 2019 how many ukrainians were there in ukraine so officially ukraine is the country of 40 42

00:05:02 2 million people. But we had the last census, I think, in 2000 or 2001. And we did not manage to organize another one. So when I was working for the government, government officials, including Zelensky, were telling the numbers that they believed there are 34, 37 millions of Ukrainians in the country.

00:05:22 now with around 10 or plus 10 plus million of ukrainians turning into refugees going to the

00:05:29 west some stay in occupation you know eastern countries and even some in russia perhaps there 0.98

00:05:36 are around 25 million in the ukrainians in the country and the worst thing is that 11 million of

00:05:43 them are retired people. And these retired people live for the pensions from 75 to 180 to 100 dollars 0.71

00:05:53 per month. And Ukraine is not that super cheap country where you can actually survive for this

00:05:59 money. Just two weeks or three weeks ago, there was a terrible story. When one director movie

00:06:06 director of Ukraine who was a retired person died at his home and his neighbor wrote that he died

00:06:13 from hunger and cold. There were these severe temperatures in Ukraine and he didn't have anyone

00:06:18 to help him. I just like wonder if ever we will know the statistics, how many people died from

00:06:25 this cold and from having no opportunities to survive. So you're saying that the Ukraine right 1.00

00:06:31 now has maybe 15 million, maybe fewer working people, working people actually who are working

00:06:40 in the entire country? Well, you don't count children. Children are not working, right? So

00:06:45 I don't know how many children under 18 are there. But perhaps if we have around 10 million

00:06:50 working people, that would be fine. Wow, that's amazing. Yes. How many have died in the war?

00:06:56 Do you know? The numbers are very different, and it's very difficult to count. Right now,

00:07:01 the official UN verified statistics is around 15,000 of civilians. The numbers of those who

00:07:09 turned into military are not known. So it's very hard to know. But only in Mariupol, it is known

00:07:16 that there are graves for around 20,000 of Ukrainians. So I guess there are at least hundreds

00:07:21 of thousands of those who died, and we will just never know the numbers. I'm sorry, it's so painful

00:07:28 to talk about oh it's well it's absolutely awful but i'm wondering why well my government which

00:07:34 has funded a lot of this uh war why we can't get a straight answer from the u.s government

00:07:40 from the ukrainian government the russian government i mean no one seems to have an

00:07:44 interest in finding out the real number of dead yes well it's very difficult to do because how

00:07:48 do you do this in occupation right there is no any any relation with that side that would allow

00:07:55 to learn this information and the other side, which is Russian side, obviously is interested

00:07:59 in hiding the numbers, right? I don't believe in verified numbers. And obviously, look, many people

00:08:07 who are military now, they used to be just ordinary civilians, right? Engineers, IT guys,

00:08:13 journalists working their everyday life, and then they turned into military. So of course,

00:08:18 they are soldiers, but they're also people, right? And they are dying. And there are a lot of these

00:08:24 things i've heard from the front lines when a person was killed and the body is brought and he

00:08:29 has a bullet in his head and uh the government officials you know local officials just don't

00:08:35 want to put him as a dad from the front line so they say he died from a heart attack for instance

00:08:41 yeah it's war and i think it was happening in every war yes just like i think we will never

00:08:48 know the true number but there are so many people who are suffering there and you know I told you 0.99

00:08:55 this terrible story about retired people and that they live for such absolutely outrageously new

00:09:03 low low pensions just when I talk about Zelensky I'm an insider I talk to so many people who used

00:09:12 to work for him or even those people who work for him. And to be clear, I believe that he stands

00:09:22 behind many schemes of money laundering. And one of the stories is that I have a friend who was

00:09:29 shortlisted for the position of the Ministry of Social Policies during the large-scale invasion.

00:09:35 And he was called and he said that he was one of five candidates. And he would be interviewed by

00:09:41 Zelensky and Mr. Yermak, then chief of staff of President Zelensky. And he was told that during

00:09:48 the interview, he would need to come up with the schemes of money laundering, so that they are

00:09:53 financed from the Ministry of Social Policy. And Ministry of Social Policy is the ministry that is

00:09:58 responsible for pensions. So when we're talking about those poor pensioners, you know, and knowing

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00:12:51 I think most people watching assume that Ukraine is corrupt and has been for a long time and that the Zelensky regime is especially corrupt. 0.53

00:12:59 I think Americans believe that.

00:13:00 But there's almost no evidence that has come out in the American press.

00:13:04 The American media has not written very much about his corruption.

00:13:08 Why do you think that is?

00:13:10 You know, I saw good pieces about corruption, but you're right that there are not too many of them.

00:13:17 It's very hard, first of all, to prove it.

00:13:19 But I think there was also some kind of agreement, not official one, right?

00:13:25 unofficial agreement that we all need to support Zelensky because this means to support Ukraine.

00:13:31 We're all united, you know, to support Ukraine, but Zelensky abused this unity. He abused our

00:13:40 belief in democracy. He abused our fight. He abused our sacrifice, Ukrainian sacrifice,

00:13:47 and what the Europeans and Americans were doing for us. He abused actually the trust of so many

00:13:54 people I believe that you know millions who still support Zelensky they were you know looking for

00:14:00 some great guy in politics they wanted to believe that there is someone you know Churchill or

00:14:06 whatever his story guy who would really do something good for the people and Zelensky is

00:14:12 amazing actor he's gonna give you what you want exactly and that's that's what's happening he still

00:14:19 plays on camera this great guy but believe me behind the camera he's very different

00:14:25 I was working for two years for two years this guy was repeating two phrases which are very

00:14:32 vocal about him one of them he was saying Ukraine is not ready for democracy and this is a quote

00:14:40 another quote was dictatorship is an order so how on earth a person who believes that Ukraine is not

00:14:48 ready for democracy and that dictatorship is an order actually can can be the face of democracy

00:14:56 someone who's canceled elections who's not actually elected president i couldn't agree more

00:15:02 so what um in 2019 2020 2021 what was zelensky saying about russia zelensky came uh to the

00:15:13 presidency uh as a president of peace yes uh during his electoral we've seen this before

00:15:20 oh yeah he's the guy who made himself in russia the first biggest money uh he made was in russia

00:15:28 millions of dollars he was working for russian propaganda channels and he was fine with that

00:15:34 furthermore he was of course he made all his career tens of years he was everywhere in moscow

00:15:40 By the way, when the first Russian invasion in Donbass happened and Russia annexed Crimea, he was spending time in Russia.

00:15:48 He was finishing his movie for which he got a lot of money.

00:15:51 And he even recognized this in August 2019, I think he wrote.

00:15:56 Yes, I was in Russia. I was finishing the movie.

00:15:58 It was 2014. The war was going on.

00:16:02 Furthermore, I'm writing a book right now, and it's a different book.

00:16:06 It's a book about real Zelensky.

00:16:08 And I learned a lot of facts and talked to a lot of people about to a lot of people. And this information was nowhere, but it happened that he had several properties in Crimea.

00:16:20 And when the war was happening in Donbass already, he was spending time in Crimea, having weed with, I mean, marijuana with his friends from 95th Quartal and making facilities there and enjoying time.

00:16:38 And he didn't care that Russia annexed Crimea.

00:16:41 While it was Russian control?

00:16:43 Yes, it was under Russian control.

00:16:45 He was vacationing in Russian control Crimea?

00:16:47 Yes, it was May 2014.

00:16:49 I talked to a person who was working for him, a person who was helping him put the windows into the house, and a person was telling different details about how Zelensky was behaving.

00:17:01 So everything that Zelensky is saying is really very different truth, you know, very different truth.

00:17:10 So he was the peace candidate.

00:17:11 He came promising that he would stand on his knees in front of Putin and beg Putin to stop.

00:17:20 That's what he was promising.

00:17:23 He was saying that Ukrainian and Russian languages are both languages that need to exist,

00:17:29 that people speak both languages and, you know, it makes people stronger,

00:17:33 that we need to be friends with Russia.

00:17:36 He was saying all this stuff and that's why people voted for him.

00:17:40 They didn't want war.

00:17:41 nobody wants war there is nothing good in war and now he totally adapted some nationalist

00:17:48 ideology that is not natural for ukrainians and he really plays it well and uh what what happened

00:17:58 how did i mean most people the united states were not paying attention yes and we sort of look up

00:18:05 to the tv and there's joe biden's vice president kamala harris at the munich security conference

00:18:11 in January 2022 with Zelensky saying, you need to join NATO. And he says, great. That's not

00:18:18 the behavior of someone who wants to avoid war. You know, one thing is that he has been escalating

00:18:24 the rhetoric. Another thing, you know, I was present at his meeting with Vladimir Putin in

00:18:29 2019 in Paris. There were very few people near him who knew the truth. He had private conversation

00:18:36 with putin where he promised putin that ukraine will never join nato so he's in 2019 yes it was

00:18:42 december 2019 and there was a personal conversation there were very few people know what he promised

00:18:48 he he said no nato because that ukraine has never you know ukraine has never was was never close to

00:18:56 to nato for being the part of nato first of all we need to have market economy and be reformed

00:19:02 country. It's not like just Trump doesn't want Ukraine in NATO or Biden doesn't want Ukraine.

00:19:08 It's not about names. It's just like we're not ready for NATO. There is no consensus to be NATO.

00:19:13 It's imagination. It's lies. He sticked to this fact of joining NATO knowing that it's impossible.

00:19:23 He was pushing the impossible agenda and making it a condition for peace. In October 2024,

00:19:29 he presented to the parliament victory plan and he said that joining NATO is the most important

00:19:37 thing and long-range missiles for Ukraine are the most important thing and and you know he made this

00:19:43 the plan victory plan but it's ridiculous it's impossible and look how he uses it he uses

00:19:50 impossible things to justify his own agenda and actually creating his hero image for instance

00:19:59 remember after he left donald trump he said it's not so easy to get rid of me he said this to the

00:20:06 journalists um if ukraine is taken to nata i'm ready to step down knowing that ukraine is not

00:20:14 going to be taken to nata so it's very easy to promise something under the condition of

00:20:20 impossible things yes right that's what he is doing so this is one thing um what the second

00:20:27 think if i can oh of course one of the most shocking moments for me personally if i'm for

00:20:34 communications team uh in 2019 2020 was he was um really scared that his ratings started dropping

00:20:44 down and he was sure that communications team was guilty in that so he thought it was your fault

00:20:50 not mine but all communications people but i was you know they're the part of the team

00:20:55 and he gathered us and he started saying that there are no positive news about what he is doing

00:21:01 in the country and my colleague started arguing with the president very diplomatically but she

00:21:08 was saying look there are no so many positive things that are happening you're promising

00:21:12 something but doesn't happen she was of course very diplomatic she didn't say it like that but

00:21:17 that was the thought and he said it doesn't matter what's happening um the most important thing we

00:21:23 need 1000 of talking heads. And if 1000 of talking heads tells positive things, then positive things

00:21:31 are happening that people believe that there are positive things. And she kept arguing and she

00:21:36 brought a very good example. She said, there was a group of internally displaced people from Donbass

00:21:42 families who lost homes and Zelensky promised them apartments. And we don't speak about thousands or

00:21:48 hundreds there were like 10 apartments or something like this and nobody took care about

00:21:53 that so he promised the families were waiting nobody took care about that so she said if there

00:22:00 are no those apartments people will know that there are no apartments it doesn't matter how

00:22:04 many talking hats will say that there are apartments right and he said no if if talking

00:22:10 hats thousand people tell you that this is happening then this is happening so she continued

00:22:16 to argue and he became very irritated and he put his hands like this what he was doing he leaned to

00:22:22 the table he looked at us and he said very in a very irritated tone i need gobbels propaganda if

00:22:32 you want i need gobbels propaganda i need thousands of talking heads of gobbels propaganda

00:22:38 meaning joseph goebbels the nazi propaganda yes that was major hitler's propagandist

00:22:44 and we were like so shocked we we stopped breathing but okay the thing is that i believe

00:22:52 what happened in 2022 he's got his thousands of talking heads globally right and many of that of

00:23:01 us were not supposed to be his heads we just you know we were standing for the country we we believed

00:23:08 that he would stop the war soon that that you know we needed to be united we believed in that

00:23:15 and four years later ukrainians don't believe in zelensky's agenda anymore but still there are

00:23:22 thousands of talking hats and many of them just get paid for that you know who do they get paid

00:23:28 by oh uh different stuff for instance if they are asked to the conferences for moderation

00:23:33 or for writing positive message it's called positive message about ukraine uh some oligarchs

00:23:40 can pay or you know it goes from grants or something like this in ukraine obviously the

00:23:47 experts get paid from uh the structures that are close to the government those the biggest patriots

00:23:53 or um you know grants from european union for instance and you know i'm not saying that these

00:23:58 people are bad. No, they are not. In many ways, they just not are aware what's happening. They're

00:24:04 talking to each other or to some experts or to the government. They still believe in the legend

00:24:10 that Zelensky has some ratings. And by the way, just a week ago, I was talking to insider from

00:24:15 the office of the president. And again, I was working for the office of the president. I know

00:24:19 there are different ratings, ratings that are closed just for the eyes of the president and

00:24:24 few in the team and ratings that are presented to the public. And the insider from politics who

00:24:32 saw the ratings said that Zelensky is non-electable. His ratings are so low. I was looking at those

00:24:39 ratings in 2023 and 2024 every month, and his ratings were very, very low, getting lower and

00:24:45 lower and lower. And here is another big revelation for you. When Donald Trump went out and named

00:24:52 Zelensky a dictator and when he was talking about low ratings of Zelensky of course Zelensky said

00:24:59 that Donald Trump is influenced by Russians and this is all Russian propaganda and Donald Trump

00:25:04 was called pro-Russian as every critic of Zelensky but in fact Donald Trump got information from a

00:25:12 lot of Ukrainians these are former government officials and even current government officials

00:25:17 These are people who closed to President Zelensky.

00:25:20 They provided evidence, documents, witnesses, what they knew, everything.

00:25:25 Because when Donald Trump came to power for the second term,

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00:28:36 What was Zelensky's relationship?

00:28:39 I'm so angry now.

00:28:41 It's okay. You have every reason to be. You have every reason to be. It's your country.

00:28:48 Can't even imagine, actually.

00:28:50 You can't.

00:28:51 No, I can't. I hope I never have to see anything like that here.

00:28:55 What was Zelensky's relationship like with Joe Biden?

00:28:58 oh so there is a very good american journalist who wrote a book and he mentioned that relationships

00:29:07 but i also met him and he told me in private conversation that biden was thinking that

00:29:13 zelensky was emotionally manipulative when i was there uh he also described in the book

00:29:21 that Zelensky thought that Biden was weak. When I was there, Zelensky had several interviews to

00:29:29 push Biden for some agenda. And I remember that I met one American diplomat. He was pissed off

00:29:36 with this interview. He was shouting at me so, so much. And it was a party. And I was not the

00:29:43 organizer. Mr. Yermak was an organizer. And a diplomat knew he's just so pissed off that he

00:29:49 couldn't stop shouting and he shouted that that interview was kind of either stupid or unprofessional 0.99

00:29:56 and it shouldn't be like that. When I was leaving and I resigned, there are boards who are spreading 0.98

00:30:03 the rumor that I was fired because I worked for Russia. This is not true. We departed on good

00:30:08 terms. Zelensky thanked me. He wished me good luck. They wanted me to continue as an advisor

00:30:14 to the office. So we departed in good terms. The thing is that Zelensky actually was destroying

00:30:26 relations with multiple actors in the West, including with the United States. And one of

00:30:33 the things was that since 2020 till 2021 for a year, there was a reform agenda and Zelensky

00:30:41 it literally was destroying every reform and it was happening like one by one like and that was

00:30:47 disastrous and what kind of reforms uh what kind of reforms so there was uh an agreement with the

00:30:56 imf in 2020 ukraine was as often on the verge of uh default and we needed money and obviously imf

00:31:05 doesn't provide you money for free so there was like 10 or 12 positions of the reforms that needed

00:31:09 to be done. So Zelensky really did a miraculous job with two of the most difficult reforms. He

00:31:18 pressed the parliament to vote for them, which actually means that he could go through this

00:31:26 agenda, a difficult agenda, and push for the reforms. He just didn't want to. As soon as two

00:31:31 reforms were pushed through, the IMF approved $5.5 billion. And I remember I was present at

00:31:38 the conversation between Zelensky and Kristalina Georgieva. They spoke in Russian because Kristalina

00:31:43 Georgieva is Bulgarian, and they had such trust and understanding, you know. But as soon as the

00:31:49 money came through, and the first tranche was 2.1 billion more than they wanted to give at the

00:31:56 beginning, in a few days, Zelensky violated the first reform. He fired, by political reasons,

00:32:03 the head of the National Bank. And it was a big scandal. Kristalina Georgieva called back and she

00:32:09 never spoke in Russian to Zelensky anymore because she was undermined. She promised to the board that

00:32:15 he was a reliable man, that he agreed for reforms, that he proved that he could push reforms through.

00:32:21 And then suddenly, as soon as he gets first money, he fires the head of the National Bank.

00:32:26 And the head of the National Bank said that he was fired via political pressure. And, you know,

00:32:31 There was a scandal. Zelensky explained to her this. He said, there will be another independent head of the National Bank, but he will just be our head of National Bank. He will be professional and independent, but he will be coming from us. He even doesn't understand what he's saying, right? It's hilarious. Do you understand me?

00:32:56 I do, I do.

00:32:57 Okay, so then after that, there was justice reform.

00:33:03 There was a scandal in the courts.

00:33:06 Then there was another, another, another, like every reform.

00:33:09 And the last one that was really blowing up, it was corporate reform.

00:33:16 Actually, the reform that was needed to be destroyed to make corruption.

00:33:19 so uh the united states helped ukraine to establish the corporate reform as in the united

00:33:27 states there is the board of independent people who looks how actually the state enterprises are

00:33:34 working and looking so that there is no corruption there there is a big ukrainian

00:33:40 oil and gas company and naftogas in ukraine and zelensky just dismissed the independent board

00:33:47 and put his own people there and yeah this is something that hasn't been public but we were

00:33:55 talking to anti-corruption activists and there was money laundering at some point from nafta gas

00:34:01 so the landscape just wanted to turn this state oil and gas company in in russian gas prom so

00:34:07 when there is your own person there and there are dark offices and the money is laundered from there

00:34:12 And that's when the United States was so pissed off that they did not prolong the sanctions against Nord Stream.

00:34:23 I'm going really deep here.

00:34:25 I don't know if your audience is going to understand everything.

00:34:31 But Nord Stream was a pipeline that Russia was building to bring its own gas to the European Union.

00:34:38 And it was sanctioned by the United States.

00:34:42 And so when Ukraine, when President Zelenskyy was actually violating all the reforms that he had agreed with the United States, at some point, Biden's administration was so pissed off that they decided to allow Russia to finish this Nord Stream pipeline.

00:35:00 Does it make sense?

00:35:01 It does.

00:35:01 And then they blew it up in the end anyway.

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00:35:52 Is Zelensky himself corrupt?

00:35:54 So there was one minister.

00:35:56 I don't name the people, okay?

00:35:58 But he had good connections with the United States, and that's why Zelensky appreciated him.

00:36:04 And there was this absolutely ridiculous story that Ukrainian ministries get very low salaries, like $12,000 per year.

00:36:16 That's why there is corruption there, right?

00:36:19 And he said, look, I don't need much, but I will need like $5,000 per month, so $60,000 per year.

00:36:26 Like, you know, really didn't want much, but that would guarantee that he did not make corruption.

00:36:31 Zelensky, of course, promised him in his first interview

00:36:35 and obviously did not do anything for that.

00:36:37 So the minister just started writing himself premium bonuses.

00:36:43 And opposition was attacking him like,

00:36:46 oh, my God, $5,000 per month for the minister.

00:36:48 That was such a scandal.

00:36:50 You know, Zelensky obviously didn't like that.

00:36:52 So when the first government was dismissed,

00:36:54 this guy was invited and Zelensky said,

00:36:57 look, I like how you work.

00:36:58 You have good relations with the West.

00:37:00 Maybe you want to continue in the other government, but you cannot have $5,000 of official salary

00:37:06 because it causes so much scandal.

00:37:08 And when the guy entered the room, there was President Zelensky here, Mr. Yermak here,

00:37:14 and another person whom I know here, and there was a bag of dollars on their table.

00:37:20 And the guy said, I can't give you $5,000 of official salary, but I will be giving you

00:37:24 $5,000 of, you know, money every month.

00:37:27 So you can get your salary, but it's not going to be official, okay?

00:37:31 Which means if Zelensky knows it, it's not corruption.

00:37:35 Of course.

00:37:36 You see?

00:37:37 Does he take, do you think Zelensky and his family have gotten rich since the war began?

00:37:42 They have always been rich.

00:37:43 He's playing this poor guy in his, this cheap sweater.

00:37:50 He is rich, obviously.

00:37:52 Look, I don't know where the money goes.

00:37:54 but I was meeting one veteran of politics who has known Zelensky for dozens of years

00:37:59 and the first thing he asks me where is the money what he's like I know Zelensky for many years

00:38:06 he has never lifted a finger for free he would never do anything for free so you know I'm not

00:38:13 a law enforcement it's something for the law enforcement to prove yes but I've just told

00:38:17 you already two stories right there was another story from another minister who just called us

00:38:23 recently and he said when he was on the position those very close people to Zelensky were actually

00:38:33 taking percentage from some governmental programs I mean illegal percentage yes and he told Zelensky

00:38:42 that they are taking really too much already like really they're insisting on very big amounts

00:38:48 and Zelensky smiled and said good job guys good job guys and he was not joking the minister says

00:38:57 he was not joking he was really happy it was happening and then the minister thought oh we're

00:39:03 not going far with this yeah he resigned later now in the government there are very few people

00:39:11 who are professionals, they are there, but very few.

00:39:15 Mostly Zelensky puts there loyalists who will never say no

00:39:20 and who create the agenda that absolutely is out of mind.

00:39:25 He just wants something, like if he is writing his script,

00:39:29 you know, of the servant of the people,

00:39:31 and then he just wants, he demands these, and people go,

00:39:36 and, you know, they just make up some reports,

00:39:39 and he goes with these reports and says that this is true.

00:39:43 This is how it works, unfortunately.

00:39:45 He's a PR guy, and PR only PR.

00:39:48 He's not the guy of substance.

00:39:51 Who does he listen to?

00:39:53 Who are his advisors?

00:39:54 Yermak, you said, was the chief of staff for years.

00:39:57 I don't know that he still is,

00:39:58 but he's identified in the West as Zelensky's closest friend and advisor.

00:40:02 Is that true?

00:40:03 And who is Yermak?

00:40:05 Mr. Yermak started his career at the strip club.

00:40:09 long ago. Yeah, like not stripper, but as a lawyer.

00:40:14 At a strip club. Yes, that was a strip club where there were a lot of those people who later would 0.98

00:40:19 become politicians in the pro-Russian party. And he was a lawyer there. And I was talking to

00:40:28 first employee of Yermak, and first employee said he had so many ambitions, and he had no

00:40:34 absolutely talents for those ambitions that's that's just you know a quote uh yeah so he started

00:40:41 like that and he met there a lot of people who would later join into politics um at the strip

00:40:46 club yeah it was very famous strip club uh it was 90s i think or early 2000s then he was working for

00:40:55 a store of luxury brands that mostly are brought not officially via smuggling.

00:41:05 And that's where he also met a lot of rich people, oligarchs, and 95th Quartal is also

00:41:11 buying clothes there. So officially, Mr. Remak says that he was a lawyer at one of the biggest

00:41:17 Ukrainian channels, and that's where he met Zelensky. He used to be a general producer of

00:41:21 that channel but i'm not sure where they met uh so it's possible that they just met through you

00:41:27 know some other entertaining uh stories uh yermak also made some movies about smuggling which is

00:41:33 very symbolic for me since he used to work in that business uh he was involved in some dark affairs

00:41:40 of mafia stuff on the level of kiev city and um that's how you know he knew a lot of politicians

00:41:48 And from the point of view of not politics, but how the things can be done, he could be helpful to Zelensky.

00:42:00 Their relations was very strange, very different, very, very difficult, very strange.

00:42:07 Yermak knows that he is personally a narcissist and he knows that Zelensky is a narcissist. 0.91

00:42:14 And these are two malign and paranoid narcissists. 0.94

00:42:17 oh my god what i'm saying that but that's true um your mark and zelinski are both malign 0.98

00:42:23 narcissists your mark and zelinski are both malignant and very paranoid narcissists who 0.93

00:42:29 are both on defensive mode and they're both paranoid your mark more how paranoid 0.97

00:42:37 oh your mark he just creates the stuff from nowhere he's just like

00:42:43 you don't need to do anything while he can come up with something. I don't know. It's really

00:42:49 some kind of a sick mind to be frank. And it was some kind of a symbiose. And Zelensky had the 0.99

00:42:59 vision and Jermak had the tools to implement the vision. It was not about politics or policies.

00:43:05 It was more about what they wanted for themselves.

00:43:11 It's important to say that sometimes Zelensky didn't know how to make what he wanted, how to make it work.

00:43:21 Yes.

00:43:21 So he was just saying the desires and Jermak was finding the way.

00:43:26 and often and often it was happening that zelensky then says to do this but jermak calls and say don't

00:43:32 do this because he saw doing this in this way and in general that was so chaotic like no professional

00:43:40 could work there i'm saying that it's it's not possible because they're just like keeping saying

00:43:45 different things keeping changing the strategies keeping changing the moods keeping changing

00:43:50 everything all the time and they create this feeling that there is so much work and everybody

00:43:57 works works works but no nothing is done sounds awful it's it's really strange but i i'm not the

00:44:05 one who knows that what what what do you think zelinski wanted like what were his goals

00:44:11 uh well i definitely know that uh he thought he came forever uh his first chief of staff said it

00:44:21 once he laughed to the minister and said we came forever that's um so he liked being the dictator

00:44:29 well he is a dictator uh the closed the borders are closed now for four years it's illegally

00:44:37 the human rights violations is enormous the persecution of the people in 2024 when donald

00:44:45 trump came to power there was a member of parliament who wrote on telegram zelensky now

00:44:49 you need to stop this war and yes you will lose the next elections but stop this war

00:44:54 like trump will push you stop this war and uh he was in jail in three days he's still in jail

00:45:01 and i talked yeah and i talked to security services and they said he he never talked to

00:45:07 russia since 2021 no connection but he is uh accused in treason and there are a lot of people

00:45:15 who are people are persecuted um obviously there are dirty campaigns everyone who criticizes

00:45:22 zelensky is just a pro-russian russian pro-kremlin you're pro-kremlin i will be pro-kremlin after

00:45:30 this interview you know i believe that american special services do their job well and if there

00:45:35 were any pro-kremlin payments or contacts obviously they would know that right um yeah so

00:45:42 in general this is it but you know for me personally the situation in the country is

00:45:50 inhuman because i never would think that my country would be the one where people are grabbed

00:45:56 on the streets and forced to the front lines i never would think that we all agree and stay

00:46:04 silent to the fact that zelensky uses front line as the punishment like he uses the war as a

00:46:11 punishment political punishment yeah he even was uh open about that he was saying if somebody

00:46:18 does something bad we need to punish them and send to the front line that was his statements

00:46:24 But there are people who are sent there

00:46:27 just because they're critics of Zelensky, you know.

00:46:31 Do you know anyone who's been sent for criticizing Zelensky?

00:46:34 There were people from the security services

00:46:36 who were sent publicly,

00:46:38 and there were a few people who were sent there.

00:46:41 What's it like, the front line?

00:46:44 There are different front lines.

00:46:46 Some people find front line, you know, in a cozy place,

00:46:49 just wearing the uniform and playing the role of some bloggers.

00:46:53 But I know people who survived when their units were killed.

00:46:59 It's terrifying.

00:47:01 My mother was treating soldiers who were sent in bad uniforms during winter to another site.

00:47:09 And their fingers and limbs were cut off because they were frozen.

00:47:15 Every year, Ukrainians are collecting money for their uniforms, you know, necessary stuff.

00:47:21 women are cooking food for for the soldiers no i'm not kidding there are a lot of volunteers

00:47:26 but the west has sent hundreds of billions of dollars and they don't have gloves or food

00:47:31 well they have some of them have food some of them are looking for more you know and uh yeah

00:47:39 usually people are collecting even money for weapons or for starlings what about all the

00:47:44 hundreds of billions from the yeah you need to track it you need to track it but look uh there

00:47:48 is a scandal right now in ukraine when the minister of energy was fired and it is now known that he

00:47:55 helped money laundry 112 million dollars 112 million dollars and those money should have been

00:48:04 used for the shield for energy sector and it's a huge scandal in ukraine there is proven stuff by

00:48:10 the law enforcement. And behind the whole scheme is the guy who worked with Russian mafia.

00:48:19 That's amazing. You should go and look into it. But there is the whole scheme with the offshore 0.96

00:48:24 companies with names behind. And the Minister of Energy himself got $12 million for this. So it's

00:48:31 around 10%. And 10% is usually paid for those who help establish the scheme, right? So where is the

00:48:40 90 percent that is the question i'm just i know i've said this before but i'm amazed that more

00:48:48 people from zelinski's government haven't come forward to say this in the west in english why is

00:48:55 that why those people are afraid what are they afraid of on netflix there is a movie a series

00:49:03 how to become a tyrant I didn't know about that unless one governmental official came to me and

00:49:11 said I watched that series it's what's happening in the country and it was before the war I mean

00:49:18 light-scale war everyone is afraid Zelensky has no limits that's the problem I am sitting here

00:49:26 because I know that he is in a weak point today and I know that there are a lot of people in his 0.97

00:49:33 government and in his vertical of power who want peace and i'm i didn't want to put shit on him i'm 0.94

00:49:40 sitting here because i want peace too and this guy is going to come up with any condition he's 0.95

00:49:46 going to change the positions all the time just to prolong this war and to get more money he doesn't

00:49:53 want to have political suicide finishing war for him is a political suicide you see i do so i'm

00:50:00 sitting here having this belief that if he is furiously ordering the people to arrange something

00:50:09 against me, maybe in this vertical of power would be people who will not agree now. But even two

00:50:17 years ago, they would do whatever he want. What do you think he would do to you for saying this

00:50:24 if you could.

00:50:27 Look, I'm risking everything. 0.65

00:50:29 I cannot return to Ukraine

00:50:30 after this interview, okay?

00:50:37 I know people who get threats.

00:50:41 A month ago,

00:50:42 there was a banker in Milan

00:50:44 who fell out of the window.

00:50:48 In Milan?

00:50:49 Yes.

00:50:50 Milan, Italy.

00:50:51 Yes.

00:50:52 And Italy is investigating

00:50:54 it. But there was one guy, a story that nobody paid attention to, who died when Zelensky was

00:51:02 traveling to Mr. Biden in September 2023. The guy used to be a governor of my region,

00:51:11 Kherson region, where I'm originally from. If you think about the governors, they are usually very

00:51:17 rich, local, very successful, strong people who have their people everywhere, have established

00:51:24 processes, have a lot of money. It's very strange that he died behind garages by making suicide of

00:51:32 poisoning himself. And I talked to one very deep insider and top position in security service and

00:51:40 the guy told me this is a very strange death because this guy was negotiating with Russians.

00:51:46 He was getting his orders from Yermak, I know the middleman, and then he was passing some information to Russians when Russians were occupying Kherson, and then back.

00:51:59 And then when Zelensky travels to Biden, this guy makes suicide behind garages, and security service explains that he had a depression.

00:52:11 He had depression.

00:52:13 He had depression.

00:52:13 A rich guy, strong guy, used to be a governor.

00:52:18 He had depression and he decided to poison himself behind garages.

00:52:24 I mean, this all just doesn't come together.

00:52:27 No, it doesn't.

00:52:28 So people who work for Zelensky believe that if they were to criticize him, they could be killed.

00:52:34 Or jailed.

00:52:35 Or jailed.

00:52:36 I told you just about the member of parliament.

00:52:37 But there are also those people who sit there for years.

00:52:40 And the courts cannot, the general prosecution cannot prove the guilt that they're accused in.

00:52:48 It's also treason, you know, collaboration with Russia.

00:52:51 How do you prove that? 0.80

00:52:53 It's for, yeah, and it's for criticism.

00:52:56 It's just, you know, political fight, nothing more.

00:53:00 What are jails like in Ukraine?

00:53:02 Oh, they're awful.

00:53:04 Oh, they're awful.

00:53:05 a lot of people in one place now by the way there was the news that diseases are being spread it's

00:53:15 very cold the food is terrible it's it's it's a terrible place to be it's not like in american

00:53:21 jail no it's a terrible place to be so ukrainians can't speak up for fear of being imprisoned or

00:53:28 killed but why do you think western media hasn't spoken up here i would like to say uh the thing

00:53:37 that the freedom of speech in ukraine is in bad shape but i believe that it improved when donald

00:53:46 trump came to power for the second term because there are more and more news coming up and

00:53:52 despite that some journalists are also sent to the front lines or attacked still you know there

00:53:59 are materials that are coming up and when this freezing winter was happening terrible winter when

00:54:07 people were freezing their homes without light without water their whole is a revolution on

00:54:15 instagram ukrainian instagram started and i wanted to tell you two trends just two of multiple trends

00:54:21 that are happening on Instagram right now

00:54:23 that will show you that Ukrainians

00:54:27 are suffering under Zelensky.

00:54:29 They don't support what Zelensky is doing.

00:54:31 One of the trends is

00:54:33 they are burning the books

00:54:35 with Zelensky's speeches

00:54:37 in their fireplaces or fires

00:54:39 saying,

00:54:41 huh, finally we figured out

00:54:42 why we needed those.

00:54:45 The second thing is very politically incorrect

00:54:48 and I'm very sorry in front of the audience.

00:54:50 You're in a safe place, don't worry.

00:54:51 Okay. I'm very sorry, but I try to describe the desperacy and the dark humor that Ukrainians use. A driver is parking on the parking lot for a place for a disabled person. And another person is coming with a telephone asking, why did you park on the place for a disabled person? 1.00

00:55:13 And the driver responds, I'm going to vote for Zelensky for the second time. 0.98

00:55:23 You mean mentally disabled? Yes. 0.56

00:55:26 So these are trends. This is not like one reel, two reels. These are trends, and they're going viral. And this is the way how people are trying to shout out, we are desperate.

00:55:38 it please stop this war please stop this nonsense please stop this autocracy there is no reason why

00:55:47 to fight this war it's senseless you see people lost all sense of this war like if this war is 0.84

00:55:56 for nata or against nata expansion then ukraine has no chances to be in nata if putin conducts

00:56:04 this war against Zelensky, then Zelensky is the main beneficiary of this war. If this war is for

00:56:11 returning territories, then we have been losing territories for three years. If this war is for

00:56:18 democracy, then we have no democracy in the country now. People in the frontline regions,

00:56:24 they tell terrible things. One person told me, I don't know what we are fighting for. What's the

00:56:30 difference between Ukraine and Russia right now. There is autocracy there and autocracy here. There

00:56:35 is no anything that would be democratic now. So what's the fight for? This is not what I'm saying.

00:56:42 This is what people from different regions are saying. And I believe that Zelensky had two

00:56:49 chances of finishing this war in 2022. Two chances. Now he says that 90% of Ukrainians

00:56:57 will not forgive him giving up donbass where does he come from with these numbers like there are no

00:57:05 such numbers realistically no such numbers and i was talking to people who represented ukraine

00:57:13 at negotiations in istanbul in 2022 yes the famous negotiations where they came pretty close

00:57:18 oh they were almost done yeah and i was explained in details that they agreed for everything

00:57:25 and furthermore which is very important they said that Zelensky personally agreed to give away

00:57:32 Donbass and I was shocked at that moment it was a shocking news and I said really did he and the

00:57:40 guys told of course he is he is okay with that because he will stop the horror of war he he

00:57:47 agreed for giving away the territory because because that would mean the war is over and now

00:57:55 he is standing in front of millions of audiences telling i cannot give away donbass you see he he

00:58:02 is inconsistent he is changing the positions all the time the second time when he could and

00:58:10 the office of the president planned he would finish the war was the end of 2022 and as i read

00:58:18 the new york times who actually confirmed my insights that the biden administration decided

00:58:26 to go with his plan to continue that war that was mr blinken who was advising you know if ukraine

00:58:34 wants to fight then ukraine needs to fight despite all the evidence that we could not win that of

00:58:40 course not um you know there is this thing also everything that is said against Zelensky is being

00:58:49 pro-russian and now um you know this mr johnson prime minister johnson thing boris johnson yes 0.63

00:58:56 boris johnson is a big friend of Zelensky he's an evil man uh so um remember bucha bucha is a

00:59:06 small town in Kiev region, and it was occupied by Russia. And there are a lot of terrible things and

00:59:13 terrible deaths happened there. And Zelensky came to Bucha after it was deoccupied on April 4, 2022.

00:59:21 And I remember him standing in front of the journalist and he had this, you know, terrible

00:59:25 face and terrible, terrible, you know, look. And he was it, it felt like he went through pain while

00:59:34 seeing all those bodies there but he was asked if he was going to continue the negotiations

00:59:42 with russia and he said yes yes i am going to continue that's fixed on a camera he was going

00:59:48 to continue and then you know they had all the agreement by positions about donbass about

00:59:56 language about many many things they agreed upon everything and then boris johnson came 0.73

01:00:01 And now it is sad that this is Putin's lies, but this story was told by Ukrainians.

01:00:09 It was not told by Russians.

01:00:11 Ukrainians who were trying to bring peace knew that Boris Johnson influenced the decision.

01:00:18 And Zelensky was promised to have everything, weapons, influence, fame, you know, and he

01:00:25 will fight Russia and he will be a great hero.

01:00:28 And that's everything that Zelensky wants. 0.60

01:00:30 He doesn't care about people.

01:00:31 he cares about staying in power he cares about being the great hero in the history

01:00:37 so i believe there were two two moments where he could finish this war but he chose the war of

01:00:45 attrition i don't know how 25 million of ukrainians who stay in the country can have for war with

01:00:52 attrition with with russia that has the population of 140 million people uh with russia who by the

01:00:59 way in four years has not even borrowed for this war and ukraine has the debt of 100 percent of

01:01:07 gdp with russia that awaits sanctions still tries to sell you know it's and ukraine has no market

01:01:17 economy i mean russia is so much bigger than ukraine that ukraine could never win it's just

01:01:24 too big russia's too big you know the new york times wrote a story that was scandalous in 2023

01:01:30 and the title was ukraine will need to choose between people and territories and we are indeed

01:01:35 choosing and our leader is choosing but it's not i mean look i'm not an expert at all on on eastern

01:01:41 europe but i have wikipedia i just look up land mass population industrial capacity you don't need

01:01:48 that much information to know this country cannot beat that country in a land war which is i

01:01:54 It was obvious.

01:01:55 I don't understand.

01:01:56 I think it's obvious for Zelensky too, but he thrives on this war. 0.81

01:02:00 He thrives on this war.

01:02:01 Why would he finish it?

01:02:03 Well, because it's destroying his country.

01:02:05 I don't think he thinks about that. 0.67

01:02:07 But in 2024, I was talking to a very smart guy who knows Russia and knows Ukraine very well.

01:02:14 He used to be an advisor to the president.

01:02:17 He's an American, by the way.

01:02:18 and he said to me that Zelensky

01:02:21 would finish the war

01:02:22 until the end of 2024.

01:02:25 And I said, no, he won't.

01:02:26 He said, why?

01:02:27 He's losing territories. 0.85

01:02:29 Russians will go to Dnipropetrovsk 1.00

01:02:30 and other regions,

01:02:31 Borussia, Odessa, Kharkiv, Sumy, Chernigiv.

01:02:35 He names all those regions of Ukraine.

01:02:37 And I'm like,

01:02:38 this is not the reason for him to stop.

01:02:40 And the guy could not understand.

01:02:42 Like he could not.

01:02:43 He's like, but why?

01:02:45 You're going to lose the territories.

01:02:47 You're going to lose more.

01:02:47 and i'm saying this is not not how he thinks he he he imagines the lives like his thinking is

01:02:58 limited with thinking of what he sees of his beautiful golden office you know and and and

01:03:07 the guy was like okay they're in the party i'm like not a reason they're not a reason they're

01:03:12 There, there, there.

01:03:13 And then the guy says, okay, there needs to be somewhere, a point where he will understand that Russians are winning. 0.75

01:03:20 Maybe when Russians are with the guns in his office. 0.90

01:03:23 I'm like, yeah, that's where he will understand. 0.63

01:03:25 So it sounds like he doesn't care very much about Ukraine.

01:03:28 He never cared.

01:03:29 He never cared about the people.

01:03:31 That's the point.

01:03:36 I tried to come up not only with the insights.

01:03:39 I think the things that I told you are quite terrible.

01:03:41 But this is who he is. But let's just check the facts online, okay? At the Munich conference, Zelensky insisted that ceasefire is the condition for peace, for negotiations, and for elections. He is keeping pushing for ceasefire, again, knowing that Russia is against ceasefire. It's like the NATO story, right?

01:04:04 If you go online and check his speech for the UN General Assembly in September 2024, he was saying that no ceasefire is possible, that it's very irresponsible to ask Ukraine for a ceasefire, that a ceasefire will lead to a frozen conflict.

01:04:22 And he was going against a ceasefire all the time.

01:04:25 Then, second thing. In June 2024, there was a peace summit where Ukraine presented Zelensky's peace formula. There were 160 delegations coming from different countries. And I truly believe that those delegations wanted to discuss peace.

01:04:46 there were discussions about energy security returning children and something else

01:04:52 and sweden suggested that they invite russian delegation maybe even vladimir putin yeah and

01:05:01 office of the president was very much against it and office of the president of ukraine even

01:05:06 organized a media campaign saying that it is absolutely morally impossible to talk to russia

01:05:13 to putin we need just to pressure no negotiations with russia you see at the same time when he was

01:05:20 presenting the formula of peace ukraine was organizing the kursk region operation and how

01:05:27 do actually you offer the world to have peace and at the same time are planning operation to invade

01:05:34 Kursk region. You see, these are very inconsistent things. Then, after his just formula, where he

01:05:43 suggested one things, he offered victory plan, where he suggested completely different things.

01:05:49 Then, in November 2024, he said that he would agree for temporary occupation of some territories

01:05:56 if another government-controlled territory of Ukraine will be included in NATO. Then, in several

01:06:03 days he said that he was a misinterpreted i'm telling you so many examples when he has been

01:06:10 changing the conditions preconditions to end this war because he doesn't want to end the war

01:06:15 because he doesn't want to end this war i counted with my insights around seven attempts to finish

01:06:22 this war where he used different mediators he used different countries we promised those mediators he

01:06:29 promised those countries those leaders that he would start negotiations that he would agree for

01:06:34 conditions and he always lied but it's i'm not giving him a pass i'm not making excuses for

01:06:42 zelinski but ukraine has got you know 100 debt to gdp ratio limited industrial capacity like it

01:06:51 can't fight a war without western aid period and so it's france uk united states that are paying

01:06:59 for all this why would the western countries want to keep the war going obviously they do

01:07:06 this is a very good question to be frank i think that uh the approach that donald trump team

01:07:13 offered is a very constructive approach in any way ukraine wouldn't survive without aid but one

01:07:19 thing one thing is to plan the investment right to boost businesses to provide jobs to play taxes

01:07:28 to recover economy and to have returnings right and another one just to to provide the money for

01:07:36 the war and i believe that the governments gave so much money and some of those governments they

01:07:45 just cannot back up now they cannot say that we gave those money for a dictator because they're

01:07:52 afraid about their ratings and their own situation right now some of the europeans were saying

01:07:58 ukrainians members of parliament that ukraine was undermining them because of corruption

01:08:05 ukrainians are begging please just open your eyes help us stop this war it's it's not about your

01:08:13 ratings it's about people pain with blood of course but it sounds like that's not going to 0.99

01:08:18 be possible as long as Zelensky is there. The war won't end. I don't believe that he will finish 0.99

01:08:23 this war. No, it sounds like it. If there are seven attempts to finish the war and his only

01:08:31 position has been the war needs to continue, he's clearly not the guy to end the war. So how do you

01:08:36 get Zelensky out? That's a good question and I'm not the one to answer it. Well, there are no 0.80

01:08:40 elections so but we are in a legal trap here and uh he the last time when uh he was planning

01:08:47 elections uh he actually didn't want to leave the martial law and wanted to have one round

01:08:52 elections so that he can manufacture them and this is the article on a very reliable ukrainian

01:08:58 media outlet um the journalist talked to insiders from from the office and from the parliament

01:09:03 just another example look there was this munich security conference and

01:09:10 um zelensky assaulted uh the prime minister of hungary mr orban

01:09:15 that's so interesting just like i'm saying so many bad things i feel so bad about that

01:09:24 but just like if you're a rational person think about this yes the leader of ukraine standing

01:09:30 in front of all the leaders and keeps assaulting one of the European leaders in a week this

01:09:37 European leader will need to vote for a 90 billion loan for Ukraine and obviously Orban just blocked

01:09:45 everything and everybody is like pointing fingers to Orban how bad Orban is how bad Orban is perhaps

01:09:51 he is I'm not justifying Orban here but if you are a leader of a country how on earth are you

01:09:58 assaulting a person from whom you will need a support of 90 billion of a loan without which

01:10:04 ukraine just cannot go further so that's a great question and i watch him do the same thing to

01:10:09 donald trump absolutely but can i finish what is that yeah can i finish this moment the thing is

01:10:15 that um the conflict that has escalated recently is about a pipeline oil pipeline uh hungary was

01:10:23 getting russian oil through ukraine and it's damaged and zelensky made this again performance

01:10:29 huge performance as if he is a brave hero who is fighting against russian oil russian gas all

01:10:35 russian etc etc at the same time ukraine on technical level is repairing the pipeline

01:10:41 the european commission is insisting that we do it as fast as possible and ukraine is sending the

01:10:47 explanation to the european commission you know it will take some time but we are offering you

01:10:52 another pipeline so that there is no energy crisis. So the work is there, right? And Zelensky

01:10:59 is just performing some stuff in his head. And the other important moment in this, do you know

01:11:06 that this was France, not Hungary, who bought the biggest number of Russian energy products last

01:11:12 year, including Russian LNG that it's selling to Germany. So why doesn't Zelensky go against

01:11:20 macron i don't understand that well it's a great question i i'm i'm aware of this um and donald

01:11:25 trump um you know i was watching that thing that that oval office situation

01:11:32 for me it was so painful it is so painful every time when i'm posting on my twitter

01:11:40 videos of ruined ukrainian cities every time i have this quote from zelensky we've got

01:11:48 beautiful cities come and see i'm like how you can say that these ruins are beautiful cities

01:11:58 the thing is that many people who know zelensky they characterize the situation that this is

01:12:07 what's happening behind the camera usually such historical behavior no control of emotions

01:12:16 this manipulation, attempts to prove himself.

01:12:21 This is Zelensky.

01:12:22 This is how he looks all the time.

01:12:24 Is he a drug user?

01:12:27 This is an open secret.

01:12:31 The thing is that I've never seen him taking drugs.

01:12:34 However, for writing my book, I met a lot of people

01:12:38 who confirmed that they saw him taking drugs in different clubs.

01:12:42 and only one saw him taking drugs in 2021

01:12:47 i learned who is the supplier from 95th quartile um and i met that person and you met zelensky's

01:12:57 drug dealer i'm not saying he's a drug dealer he's a guy from 95th quartile and uh what's 95th

01:13:04 quartile 95th quartile uh it's it's it's entertaining company of zelensky uh uh 95th

01:13:10 where he comes from uh it's the guy who who is an actor um and uh he behaved really in a strange

01:13:19 way his eyes and his behavior is it is zelinski using cocaine again i i have not seen that so

01:13:27 uh the thing is that but you spoke all these people are talking about cocaine yes the second

01:13:33 thing is every time when we were preparing to the interview you know I was reading the notes

01:13:41 explaining who is the journalist what he needs to say the messaging the questions

01:13:45 he does not like reading to be frank usually he's more you know like tries to listen to you

01:13:55 and then he takes his like 15 minutes in the bathroom and I'm telling you that I was always

01:14:02 surprised um that he was going out a different person like really always a different person

01:14:08 so you'd be briefing him then he goes to the bathroom he spends there 15 minutes and he's

01:14:14 going out energized full of you know action ready to say everything sniffing

01:14:22 so i don't want to say something that i didn't see but but i met too many people

01:14:31 I met doctors I met you know people who spend time with him in the clubs and I talked to the

01:14:39 people who has been knowing him for like 20-25 years and they say he's a cocaine and also I

01:14:49 don't know if you followed that but there was an allegation accusation that he's a cocaine

01:14:54 user during his electoral campaign and that's why he invited his opponent President Poroshenko

01:15:00 at that moment to take analysis on drugs and he went to the clinics of his friend

01:15:08 and when the analysis was presented it happened that the analysis was dated by different date

01:15:14 when he gave those analysis that was a big scandal i mean this is everywhere the allegation

01:15:21 is everywhere there are many people for a long time for a long time yeah and you know there is

01:15:27 this very strange behavior obviously you know that there are a lot of things that point out to it

01:15:33 but i personally have not seen that but you spoke to his cocaine supplier from 95th quartile

01:15:39 not for the book i met him in the office of the president i didn't know about cocaine back then

01:15:45 but i was very surprised of his behavior his eyes were sparkling and he was so happy and slow

01:15:57 and he was trying to make some jokes that i didn't understand and was like this is a strange guy

01:16:03 and i didn't know what he was doing there because he didn't have any position

01:16:07 he just came to the office of the president what's slensky's wife like

01:16:12 you know many people who know her respect her many people

01:16:22 were saying that she was the only human who stayed nearby him. 0.83

01:16:28 She really didn't want him to go for the second term.

01:16:32 She even said this publicly.

01:16:36 But I believe she changed.

01:16:39 And I don't know if she still has that positive influence on him

01:16:44 that she used to have,

01:16:45 but Zelensky never thought that women are equally important.

01:16:50 he is the one who respects his woman

01:16:53 but not as she

01:16:55 if she is like really

01:16:56 equal

01:16:58 if it makes sense

01:16:59 once I was in this very weird

01:17:03 situation I was in many weird situations

01:17:05 with Zelensky it's just a norm

01:17:07 but there was this situation

01:17:09 where there was his

01:17:11 friend from 95th кварtale

01:17:13 and Zelensky there were three of us

01:17:15 I don't know for which reason this guy

01:17:19 started telling a very funny to his mind situation that olena zelenska was running after zelenski for

01:17:28 eight years to make him marry her and he he was a strong guy he didn't want to marry ha ha ha it

01:17:37 was so funny well definitely zelenski was smiling a lot and he liked the story i still don't

01:17:43 understand what was funny about that um i think zelenska is a smart person but she does not care

01:17:52 and doesn't know anything about politics and she doesn't want to be involved she tried to stay

01:17:58 human i'm not sure what worked out when did you leave the country ukraine i would prefer not to

01:18:08 talk about that okay i stayed in the country in 2022 oh we were shelled by the way when russians

01:18:15 were living butcher we were shelled it's just pure luck that he didn't hit the house we were 0.66

01:18:19 my husband went to the front lines

01:18:22 we stayed in 2023 majority of 2024 beginning of 2025 and i had so multiple sources that were

01:18:35 saying that Zelensky is not going to finish this war. People are going crazy there. I was going

01:18:41 crazy. You're like in the closed cage. You're being shelled and bombed. You can die any moment

01:18:48 from Russian drone or Russian missile. At the same time, you can't do anything. There are no

01:18:54 economic opportunities. There is no freedom of speech. Anything you do can be treated in a

01:19:02 different way the country is full of bands everything is bent there are strange rules

01:19:08 like there is this very strange rule that all the uh all the uh cars need to stop at 9 a.m

01:19:17 on the roads uh to listen to to the hymn uh it's just yeah like if you drive and then there is 9

01:19:26 am and there is ukrainian hymn you need to stop it there is really strange agenda and it looks

01:19:33 like surreal the country i don't recognize ukraine anymore everything is banned what does that mean

01:19:38 like he uses bands like like there is this culture that he developed the culture of banning

01:19:47 canceling people, artists, you know, poets, poets, churches, writers, you know, like anything he can

01:19:59 connect to Russia somehow. Sometimes it doesn't have any connection to Russia. It always makes

01:20:05 us weaker. Sometimes these are Ukrainians from the past, but yeah, they used to live under like 1.00

01:20:10 Russian Empire or the USSR there is this whole culture of cancellation he cancels bloggers

01:20:18 journalists not personally but but he has this tendency he has these orders like for instance in

01:20:27 late 2023 I learned from the security service that Zelensky collected his guys and told them that

01:20:33 they needed to go against critical bloggers at the end of at the beginning of 2024 there were like

01:20:39 purchase of bloggers bloggers were called to the security service having conversations why they did

01:20:46 that why they said that that they will be accused of being pro-russian there was a bunch of bloggers

01:20:51 that went against the war and they said we don't need the borders of 1991 we want to stop this war

01:20:58 and all of them were called for a security service one guy needed to leave the country he was

01:21:03 threatened. You know, every story can become a bigger story, can become a story with security

01:21:10 service, you see, can become a story of a treason. By the way, the cases of treason

01:21:15 rise multiple times in four years, multiple times. Treason is just another punishment, you see.

01:21:24 He sounds like a Bolshevik.

01:21:26 In many ways, it feels like it's the USSR that we read about. In many ways, it is. 0.78

01:21:33 so just to restate the question 0.97

01:21:35 is there any way to get rid of Zelensky

01:21:37 that's a good thing 0.88

01:21:40 you know

01:21:41 the problem

01:21:42 how to do this

01:21:45 in a legal way

01:21:47 and who

01:21:49 is going to be next

01:21:50 who's going to fight

01:21:53 with Zelensky on the electoral field

01:21:55 and how to restore

01:21:57 the electoral field in general

01:21:59 you see

01:22:00 And there are so many questions there that are not being solved at all.

01:22:06 And I'm not sure he wants to solve them. 0.71

01:22:08 So one big question to all the Ukrainians and Westerners who have resources, who have the power, who are strong enough, is actually how to make it in the legal field, how to finish this.

01:22:24 And that's the answer to your question, why are Ukrainians silent?

01:22:29 Rich people are afraid of being sanctioned.

01:22:31 By the way, it's also a legal instrument that Zelensky uses.

01:22:35 He sanctions his own citizens, and it's absolutely anti-constitutional.

01:22:40 And people are afraid.

01:22:41 How can you sanction your own citizens?

01:22:42 Yes, he uses, he sanctions his own citizens.

01:22:45 That's pretty public and on his website.

01:22:50 For, I don't know, he comes up with the reasons.

01:22:53 Working for Russia or whatever.

01:22:55 And what happens when you're sanctioned?

01:22:58 Your businesses can be closed, your accounts are frozen.

01:23:04 The former president is sanctioned, so he says he cannot use his money anymore.

01:23:11 So just to go back to something you said earlier that I should have followed up on.

01:23:15 When you were working for Zelensky, he told Putin, I think you said it was 2019, that Ukraine would not join NATO.

01:23:24 So then you fast forward a couple of years, three years, and he's telling the world that Ukraine does plan to join NATO, which you said is impossible.

01:23:34 But what do you think changed his mind?

01:23:37 What changed?

01:23:41 Well, I definitely know that he wanted to influence the American administration.

01:23:49 He really did want.

01:23:50 and um influence the american administration in what way yeah i mean he wanted to get something

01:23:57 he wanted to get some support friendship you know to get something i remember the interview

01:24:05 i remember whom that interview was given when he first said uh why are we not in nato so

01:24:12 it was a tv interview and i was preparing messages it has never been in messages

01:24:18 we never discussed that actually

01:24:21 it was not at the table at all

01:24:23 and he was sitting there

01:24:25 and the journalist asked him

01:24:27 so what would you tell

01:24:29 or ask Biden about

01:24:30 and he said why are not we in NATO

01:24:33 and I started

01:24:35 like looking at the messages and

01:24:36 he just came up with that

01:24:39 and Zelensky

01:24:41 is the kind of person if you applaud

01:24:43 he's gonna continue

01:24:44 and there were a lot of nationalists

01:24:47 who applauded who felt oh that's great stuff guy do it and so he saw the applause he saw the

01:24:54 reaction and since his ratings were dropping down you know and there was positive feedback

01:25:00 he just started pushing through this agenda you know again i read the book uh about biden and

01:25:06 there was the description of the meeting in 2021 that was after i left a few months and it happened

01:25:13 that Zelensky insisted on this NATO issue from Biden, thinking that that was only Biden who was

01:25:19 the obstacle to this. And if Biden said that they will be NATO, he didn't want to listen to any

01:25:25 arguments, any facts, nothing. And then when Biden said, look, there is no consensus for this,

01:25:32 the guy said, but NATO is outdated organization, and it's gonna fall apart. Germany and France

01:25:38 are going to leave NATO now. And as the journalist explains, even those who really liked Zelensky,

01:25:48 they were blown up by this. They thought he went too far. But this is, you know, this is who is

01:25:54 Zelensky. He's always escalating. He's always demanding. He's always proving himself. You know,

01:26:00 I was talking to one guy who used to work under two or three presidents. And he said to me that

01:26:08 he's telling everyone that these two guys, Zelensky and Irmak, they are just six-year-olds.

01:26:13 He meant because they were six years in power. Now they are seven-year-olds. And I myself was

01:26:18 thinking that they behave more as teenagers, but we never had argument that they behave as adults.

01:26:24 You see? So I believe that Zelensky, if that journalist who wasn't inside the White House

01:26:31 says that Zelensky thought Biden was weak, I believe Zelensky thought Biden is weak and he

01:26:37 can pressure and get the NATO thing. Because Zelensky actually doesn't have much understanding

01:26:44 of how things are working in his own government and globally.

01:26:49 Why are there so many Americans always in Ukraine? Always Americans in Ukraine. American

01:26:53 officials are always talking about Ukraine. No offense to Ukraine, but it's a very small country.

01:26:58 It's a very big world. But the US government was very focused on Ukraine for a long time.

01:27:02 there were always journalists in and out of their think tank people in their u.s military

01:27:07 what was that well i think we are lucky that there are journalists there um but it's a small

01:27:14 country you say but it's comparatively big well it's a large land mass for sure but so is kazakhstan

01:27:20 oh yeah but in europe it's like the second biggest country in europe well if you don't

01:27:25 count russia it's the biggest yes and so um i don't i've never understood you should ask americans

01:27:31 why they're there. Well, I've never understood it. I mean, I think money laundering was part of it,

01:27:35 for sure. I think Americans, I mean, the former president's son was on the board of a

01:27:40 Ukrainian energy company. I never, did you know that?

01:27:44 You know that I was a co-author of that very famous article about Hunter Biden. And after that,

01:27:50 Biden's administration didn't give interview to the New York Times. And I think that was a very

01:27:55 infant behavior from the communications people. I was just a freelancer in Ukraine. If for six

01:28:01 years after that the biggest democratic president doesn't provide interview to the biggest

01:28:06 democratic media because of some freelancer you know having evidence of of you know some

01:28:12 connected topics that's really ridiculous i remember that piece with that was with ken

01:28:16 vogel i think and yula mendel yep who's you um so for the for whatever it's worth for those who

01:28:23 don't remember the piece can you just summarize it tell us what it was about what it said

01:28:27 It was long ago, but yeah, Hunter Biden was invited to be on board of energy company that was owned by a big oligarch who is accused in money laundering and, you know, big guy, really, mafia guy.

01:28:44 And there was a general prosecutor who opened 11 criminal proceedings against this company, and Hunter Biden figured somewhere that he was somewhere there.

01:29:00 But I was talking to a general prosecutor, and he told me that he reopened the cases, but he could not prosecute Hunter Biden because Hunter Biden is an American.

01:29:10 And as Ukraine, we just cannot do that.

01:29:12 But that was the whole story about, you know, that Hunter Biden was on the board.

01:29:18 And obviously, it was not liked by Biden administration very much.

01:29:23 And that was a huge scandal.

01:29:25 And I did just my job, you know, I talked to the general prosecutor, I, I went to two different people, I asked the questions, I read and translated the law, you know, I verified the information.

01:29:38 I mean, Ken was doing a major job, I was helping him, and the New York Times stands for that piece.

01:29:46 So why should I be, you know, feeling bad about that?

01:29:51 Well, I don't think you should be at all.

01:29:52 Yeah.

01:29:53 What was your reaction from the Zelensky government to you when that piece came out?

01:29:57 Oh, first of all, that was the transition moment. 0.95

01:30:00 Yeah, I bet.

01:30:01 I'm sure it was.

01:30:02 um so he never actually reacted much it served more like a concern for him he didn't understand

01:30:13 much what was happening he just asked what was the buzz about his people asked me i said well

01:30:17 there was this piece you know i checked it the new york times stands for that that's it so they

01:30:23 had just the concern what was what was happening but it was 2019 before biden came to power

01:30:30 right to be frank yeah i know that for americans it's a big story about corruption

01:30:37 um for me as a ukrainian i still cannot understand what would have happened that

01:30:45 biden administration would allow zelensky to continue this war i agree

01:30:49 it's just like it's very hard to talk because you don't understand what's happening really

01:30:55 when people are being hunted by drones when people wake up to death and destruction

01:31:01 when are they being abandoned when they're being searched by law enforcement of their own country

01:31:07 when they don't have heat or light or water when they have no almost money and they have no help

01:31:15 and they're not hurt and they cannot leave their country it's such a trap and this has been

01:31:21 happening for four years of a large scale and for many for 12 years. And the only solution that is

01:31:29 being presented today is just to say that Putin is a monster. Well, maybe he is. His army is doing 0.99

01:31:39 terrible things. But here is the point. Keeping just offending Putin will reach nothing. And my

01:31:49 point is we need to do something as the country. We need to do something to start taking the

01:31:55 decisions. We need to start putting people first. And what I see from Zelensky is just, yes, I'm

01:32:03 taking care about the people. Yes, people are first. And then always there is bot. And after

01:32:09 this bot, there is the whole bunch of misleading information. I don't believe that President

01:32:20 Zelensky is really very constructive, let's say so. I believe he has some kind of

01:32:30 mental challenges. And so when I'm thinking about his meeting with Biden, 0.95

01:32:35 who, as has been proved by Alex Thompson and Jake Topper, 0.97

01:32:40 had really already mental problems.

01:32:43 I'm thinking, where did this world come to 0.95

01:32:46 that there is one person leader with mental challenges

01:32:50 and another person with mental challenges

01:32:53 actually deciding on the fate of the 40 million nation

01:32:57 or 37 million nation?

01:32:59 You see?

01:33:01 I just don't believe that Ukraine is just being destroyed.

01:33:05 I believe that Ukraine is in the world of extinction.

01:33:09 We have huge brain drain, enormous problems with the demography. 1.00

01:33:16 Do you know that that was the Ukrainian who actually made the program 0.73

01:33:21 to send the first person to space, Yuri Gagarin?

01:33:25 Now children in Kharkiv region in the fourth grade cannot read.

01:33:31 You see, my nation is being deteriorating. 0.67

01:33:34 Yes.

01:33:35 So there is no but in this case.

01:33:38 People either go first or they go first and then but, but, but, but, but a lot of conditions. 0.81

01:33:44 Why not to stop this war?

01:33:46 And you ask me why all those think tankers and journalists come to Ukraine.

01:33:51 I think they come to every country.

01:33:53 And they were interested in the relations with Russia.

01:33:56 But unfortunately, there is this, I think, absolutely destructive contribution to very unhealthy nationalism that has become a shield for the beneficiary group in the country.

01:34:12 Of course. That happens every time. I just know a lot of the policymakers in the United States who promoted this war. And I think that some of them wanted to destroy Ukraine. I think that. I'm sorry.

01:34:26 It's very inhuman. The propaganda that we hear, it's very inhuman. It's very cynical. I mentioned to you this stuff about Russia is collapsing. This is like already a Twitter joke. Russia is collapsing for the fourth year in a row. Mark Reuter said a few weeks ago that Russia is in super bad shape. You need like three, four months of war more to win. Where does he come from that?

01:34:51 tell this a ukrainian who is dying tell this to the mother who buried her son or a child

01:34:57 tell this to a father who lost three children and wife under shelling it's impossible to explain to

01:35:05 the people how politicians come up with the conditions to justify this absolutely unjustified

01:35:13 war because it's not their country and they don't care it's evil i couldn't agree more

01:35:19 many ukrainians believe this already many ukrainians and again they're correct i'm not

01:35:23 i'm not justifying putin here okay it's nothing i agree it's just like repeating that he is a 0.58

01:35:28 monster it doesn't help the situation no i agree it's like telling us that iran's gonna get a

01:35:35 nuclear weapon in three weeks you know telling us that for 25 years at a certain point i don't

01:35:39 believe you um so you have asked to end with a message to the russians to vladimir putin russian

01:35:47 president um in russian and of course i can't understand russian so uh but uh you've done us i

01:35:55 think us the united states a great service by this interview and so i would be happy to turn it over

01:36:00 to you to speak directly in russian uh to the russian president thank you of course it's

01:36:07 It's actually quite a moving moment.

01:36:10 Shall I look there?

01:36:12 Look there.

01:36:23 Владимир Владимирович,

01:36:26 у меня нет вашего жизненного опыта,

01:36:29 и я не понимаю, как вы видите этот мир.

01:36:35 Но я не представитель НАТО,

01:36:37 я не представитель Запада, я не работаю на Зеленского,

01:36:41 я не ваш политический оппонент, я вообще вам не угроза.

01:36:47 Я украинская женщина из украинского провинциального города Херсона.

01:36:56 Вы говорите, что вы человек Бога,

01:36:58 But what is happening in Ukraine, is nothing to do with God,

01:37:07 is nothing to do with humanity.

01:37:10 You say that you want peace.

01:37:13 It is the only thing you can do right now.

01:37:18 The only thing you can do is the only thing you can do,

01:37:21 which is the only thing you can do in Ukraine and Russia.

01:37:25 There is no victory in this war, no. 1.00

01:37:29 The countries are winning, slavians are killing, slavians are killing. 1.00

01:37:35 I'm from Herson. 1.00

01:37:37 I think your army tells you only about good things, only about victory.

01:37:46 But in Herson there is a drone on people's drone.

01:37:50 Maybe you think that it is Western propaganda.

01:37:53 Skept�吧.

01:37:55 Well, there is a bad truth.

01:37:59 In the hospital of my mother worked with a grandma.

01:38:02 She walked домой.

01:38:03 She spoke by Phillip

01:38:22 her wish, which was our family in Wyssey.

01:38:26 Hm...

01:38:27 ...little drone. 1.00

01:38:29 She kernels people come here murder us and sh fell off and live in custody ofischees. 1.00

01:38:36 How many they fell in the vaccine 0.72

01:38:37 Они падали на снег, ошарашенные этим взрывом, в крови старики.

01:38:44 В Херсонии, при фронтовых территориях Украины,

01:38:48 остались старики и самые немощные люди, у которых нет денег, чтобы выехать.

01:38:55 Ваша армия сама постит видео о том, как она охотится на людей дронами.

01:39:03 Но должны же быть какие-то пределы человечности.

01:39:07 one of your laws, one of your laws

01:39:10 may stop it.

01:39:12 You say that you want peace.

01:39:15 But if you stop it,

01:39:17 then you will not have anything for it.

01:39:19 Even no one will say thank you.

01:39:22 But people will know that.

01:39:26 When the end of the world,

01:39:27 I hope, I pray every day,

01:39:29 that the end of the world will come.

01:39:30 When the end of the world will come,

01:39:32 we will have to restore all the human beings.

01:39:35 And why would you not start doing this now?

01:39:40 You are going to church, you are going to pray.

01:39:45 But when it will be explained to God,

01:39:47 why your army is hunting on the немощных, 0.70

01:39:51 on the old people, on the old people,

01:39:54 it is what, it is what, it is what, it is what,

01:39:56 it is what, it is what, it is what,

01:39:58 how to explain it?

01:40:01 If you really want a world,

01:40:03 одно ваше слово

01:40:04 одно ваше слово

01:40:07 и вот это вот

01:40:09 дроновое сафари остановится

01:40:11 и пускай никто вам не скажет

01:40:13 спасибо, но люди

01:40:15 ведь будут знать

01:40:16 мир это единственное

01:40:19 единственное

01:40:20 возможное решение

01:40:23 сегодня для сильных

01:40:25 я не знаю, услышите ли вы меня

01:40:31 But you need to stop it. It went too far. It's non-human. It's so cynical. It's so ugly and low. You can stop it.

01:41:01 well i appreciate everything you've done and i hope this is widely seen well thank you very

01:41:09 much for giving me the platform and for allowing to have this frank conversation i feel like i took

01:41:16 a lot of from myself and that my silence could be a contribution to to this war but

01:41:21 now i feel like i did something real and good thank you i think you did thanks very much

01:41:27 Thank you.

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The Tucker Carlson Show - May 11, 2026

Zelensky’s Press Secretary Reveals All： Cocaine, Cover-ups, and the Only Obstacle Preventing Peace

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