The Tucker Carlson Show - Zelensky’s Press Secretary Reveals All： Cocaine, Cover-ups, and the Only Obstacle Preventing Peace

00:00:00.000 Thank you for doing this. I'm amazed. I never thought I would speak to anyone around Zelensky.

00:00:10.400 And I know you're doing this at some great risk to yourself. So thank you very much.

00:00:14.900 So you were President Zelensky's press secretary.

00:00:18.700 Yes. First of all, thank you for having me. And I never expected to see myself here talking about my former boss, Volodymyr Zelensky.

00:00:26.880 I used to work for him for two years, since 2019 until 2021.

00:00:32.220 How did you wind up working for him?

00:00:36.160 Well, Volodymyr Zelensky announced the job via Facebook, and everybody started applying.

00:00:43.180 And I didn't want to apply first, because I thought he would take someone, you know,

00:00:47.700 nepotically.

00:00:48.340 Yes.

00:00:49.580 But there was an open application, and I went through 4,000 of applicants.

00:00:54.600 it's not a joke

00:00:56.680 and then actually I need to prove myself

00:00:59.440 that I can do a job

00:01:00.720 and that he can trust me

00:01:02.240 but yeah we found the common ground

00:01:04.900 and I think I was very faithful towards him

00:01:07.480 you know

00:01:07.840 and I supported him

00:01:11.060 and I supported him in 2022 0.96

00:01:12.660 when Russia made its large scale invasion 0.94

00:01:17.160 as millions of Ukrainians 1.00

00:01:19.540 I was grateful that he stayed in the country 1.00

00:01:21.540 that's why it's so

00:01:23.660 so strange and desperate for me to be here and to talk who he really is. I don't have personal

00:01:29.820 vendetta, but I believe that he is one of the biggest obstacles towards peace today. So I

00:01:36.000 wanted to tell the people who he is. Who is he? First of all, he's not a person whom you see on

00:01:45.220 camera. He's a very different person. He changes masks all the time. He is emotionally uncontrollable.

00:01:53.660 emotionally uncontrollable yeah he doesn't control his emotions he's often historical and

00:02:02.000 he thinks that every person is disposable he doesn't have empathy that he plays he's absolutely

00:02:10.000 insanely great actor and that brought us a lot of support in 2022 but his acting doesn't have

00:02:18.400 any substance and everything that he's saying it's so detached from the reality and majority

00:02:25.380 of the things that he's saying it's either manipulation or it's a fact that is being

00:02:30.200 taken from the context or it's pure lies and millions of people still believe that supporting

00:02:36.660 Zelensky means supporting Ukraine but today it's different and Tucker I would like to say I'm not

00:02:43.600 here to justify russian invasion i'm not here to justify putin what russian army is doing in

00:02:50.260 ukraine equals crimes against humanity yes but this war is not black and white anymore it's dark

00:02:56.580 and even darker we just see putin as an evil but zelensky is also an evil he's just a hidden one 0.95

00:03:03.820 he plays such a teddy bear you know on camera but then when the light goes off he's a grizzly bear

00:03:10.240 and he destroys the people it's almost surreal to recollect that almost every western leader 0.94

00:03:17.380 and western delegations that were coming to ukraine before the war they treated zelensky

00:03:22.180 as a political novice they saw he was low educated unqualified and low depth but then overnight he

00:03:29.240 just turned into this great face of democracy yes but it feels like the west created the myth fell

00:03:36.020 into it. And, you know, doesn't see doesn't that the West keeps ignoring the fact that this beneath

00:03:43.920 that Zelensky's rhetoric, heroic rhetoric, he keeps accumulating power. And I'm not afraid to

00:03:50.360 say he keeps hollowing the very same people he claims to save. It's pretty strong to say I know

00:03:58.280 that. But I believe that, you know, people need to understand that if you want to support Ukraine,

00:04:05.280 the only way to support Ukraine today

00:04:07.580 is to push for the peace deal.

00:04:11.160 This is the only way that Ukraine can survive

00:04:13.980 because I believe we are on the verge of extinction.

00:04:17.340 Somebody is talking about two, three years of war anymore.

00:04:20.820 It just like doesn't come up with numbers,

00:04:22.920 with demography, with anything,

00:04:25.260 with all those suffering that's happening in the country.

00:04:30.920 Tell me, no, no, thank you.

00:04:32.960 Thank you for saying that.

00:04:33.880 I agree. 0.98

00:04:34.500 I'm not Ukrainian.

00:04:35.280 but i don't understand the point of this i mean i have many questions about how and why it started

00:04:41.320 but what's beyond question is ukraine as a nation is being eliminated that's obvious to me biggest

00:04:46.800 country in europe so it's a big deal what are since you mentioned numbers what how many people

00:04:51.640 live in ukraine so when you started working for zelensky you work for the government of ukraine

00:04:56.700 2019 how many ukrainians were there in ukraine so officially ukraine is the country of 40 42

00:05:02.540 2 million people. But we had the last census, I think, in 2000 or 2001. And we did not manage to organize another one. So when I was working for the government, government officials, including Zelensky, were telling the numbers that they believed there are 34, 37 millions of Ukrainians in the country.

00:05:22.160 now with around 10 or plus 10 plus million of ukrainians turning into refugees going to the

00:05:29.880 west some stay in occupation you know eastern countries and even some in russia perhaps there 0.98

00:05:36.200 are around 25 million in the ukrainians in the country and the worst thing is that 11 million of

00:05:43.280 them are retired people. And these retired people live for the pensions from 75 to 180 to 100 dollars 0.71

00:05:53.120 per month. And Ukraine is not that super cheap country where you can actually survive for this

00:05:59.120 money. Just two weeks or three weeks ago, there was a terrible story. When one director movie

00:06:06.980 director of Ukraine who was a retired person died at his home and his neighbor wrote that he died

00:06:13.480 from hunger and cold. There were these severe temperatures in Ukraine and he didn't have anyone

00:06:18.800 to help him. I just like wonder if ever we will know the statistics, how many people died from

00:06:25.220 this cold and from having no opportunities to survive. So you're saying that the Ukraine right 1.00

00:06:31.800 now has maybe 15 million, maybe fewer working people, working people actually who are working

00:06:40.720 in the entire country? Well, you don't count children. Children are not working, right? So

00:06:45.040 I don't know how many children under 18 are there. But perhaps if we have around 10 million

00:06:50.460 working people, that would be fine. Wow, that's amazing. Yes. How many have died in the war?

00:06:56.280 Do you know? The numbers are very different, and it's very difficult to count. Right now,

00:07:01.540 the official UN verified statistics is around 15,000 of civilians. The numbers of those who

00:07:09.780 turned into military are not known. So it's very hard to know. But only in Mariupol, it is known

00:07:16.160 that there are graves for around 20,000 of Ukrainians. So I guess there are at least hundreds

00:07:21.280 of thousands of those who died, and we will just never know the numbers. I'm sorry, it's so painful

00:07:28.000 to talk about oh it's well it's absolutely awful but i'm wondering why well my government which

00:07:34.360 has funded a lot of this uh war why we can't get a straight answer from the u.s government

00:07:40.020 from the ukrainian government the russian government i mean no one seems to have an

00:07:44.240 interest in finding out the real number of dead yes well it's very difficult to do because how

00:07:48.760 do you do this in occupation right there is no any any relation with that side that would allow

00:07:55.200 to learn this information and the other side, which is Russian side, obviously is interested

00:07:59.920 in hiding the numbers, right? I don't believe in verified numbers. And obviously, look, many people

00:08:07.260 who are military now, they used to be just ordinary civilians, right? Engineers, IT guys,

00:08:13.520 journalists working their everyday life, and then they turned into military. So of course,

00:08:18.460 they are soldiers, but they're also people, right? And they are dying. And there are a lot of these

00:08:24.420 things i've heard from the front lines when a person was killed and the body is brought and he

00:08:29.980 has a bullet in his head and uh the government officials you know local officials just don't

00:08:35.860 want to put him as a dad from the front line so they say he died from a heart attack for instance

00:08:41.180 yeah it's war and i think it was happening in every war yes just like i think we will never

00:08:48.600 know the true number but there are so many people who are suffering there and you know I told you 0.99

00:08:55.720 this terrible story about retired people and that they live for such absolutely outrageously new

00:09:03.680 low low pensions just when I talk about Zelensky I'm an insider I talk to so many people who used

00:09:12.020 to work for him or even those people who work for him. And to be clear, I believe that he stands

00:09:22.820 behind many schemes of money laundering. And one of the stories is that I have a friend who was

00:09:29.080 shortlisted for the position of the Ministry of Social Policies during the large-scale invasion.

00:09:35.660 And he was called and he said that he was one of five candidates. And he would be interviewed by

00:09:41.920 Zelensky and Mr. Yermak, then chief of staff of President Zelensky. And he was told that during

00:09:48.620 the interview, he would need to come up with the schemes of money laundering, so that they are

00:09:53.340 financed from the Ministry of Social Policy. And Ministry of Social Policy is the ministry that is

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00:12:51.520 I think most people watching assume that Ukraine is corrupt and has been for a long time and that the Zelensky regime is especially corrupt. 0.53

00:12:59.400 I think Americans believe that.

00:13:00.980 But there's almost no evidence that has come out in the American press.

00:13:04.840 The American media has not written very much about his corruption.

00:13:08.040 Why do you think that is?

00:13:10.840 You know, I saw good pieces about corruption, but you're right that there are not too many of them.

00:13:17.000 It's very hard, first of all, to prove it.

00:13:19.080 But I think there was also some kind of agreement, not official one, right?

00:13:25.140 unofficial agreement that we all need to support Zelensky because this means to support Ukraine.

00:13:31.620 We're all united, you know, to support Ukraine, but Zelensky abused this unity. He abused our

00:13:40.500 belief in democracy. He abused our fight. He abused our sacrifice, Ukrainian sacrifice,

00:13:47.180 and what the Europeans and Americans were doing for us. He abused actually the trust of so many

00:13:54.220 people I believe that you know millions who still support Zelensky they were you know looking for

00:14:00.220 some great guy in politics they wanted to believe that there is someone you know Churchill or

00:14:06.800 whatever his story guy who would really do something good for the people and Zelensky is

00:14:12.580 amazing actor he's gonna give you what you want exactly and that's that's what's happening he still

00:14:19.120 plays on camera this great guy but believe me behind the camera he's very different

00:14:25.160 I was working for two years for two years this guy was repeating two phrases which are very

00:14:32.440 vocal about him one of them he was saying Ukraine is not ready for democracy and this is a quote

00:14:40.300 another quote was dictatorship is an order so how on earth a person who believes that Ukraine is not

00:14:48.800 ready for democracy and that dictatorship is an order actually can can be the face of democracy

00:14:56.180 someone who's canceled elections who's not actually elected president i couldn't agree more

00:15:02.460 so what um in 2019 2020 2021 what was zelensky saying about russia zelensky came uh to the

00:15:13.620 presidency uh as a president of peace yes uh during his electoral we've seen this before

00:15:20.900 oh yeah he's the guy who made himself in russia the first biggest money uh he made was in russia

00:15:28.920 millions of dollars he was working for russian propaganda channels and he was fine with that

00:15:34.560 furthermore he was of course he made all his career tens of years he was everywhere in moscow

00:15:40.780 By the way, when the first Russian invasion in Donbass happened and Russia annexed Crimea, he was spending time in Russia.

00:15:48.320 He was finishing his movie for which he got a lot of money.

00:15:51.760 And he even recognized this in August 2019, I think he wrote.

00:15:56.240 Yes, I was in Russia. I was finishing the movie.

00:15:58.940 It was 2014. The war was going on.

00:16:02.060 Furthermore, I'm writing a book right now, and it's a different book.

00:16:06.020 It's a book about real Zelensky.

00:16:08.480 And I learned a lot of facts and talked to a lot of people about to a lot of people. And this information was nowhere, but it happened that he had several properties in Crimea.

00:16:20.240 And when the war was happening in Donbass already, he was spending time in Crimea, having weed with, I mean, marijuana with his friends from 95th Quartal and making facilities there and enjoying time.

00:16:38.940 And he didn't care that Russia annexed Crimea.

00:16:41.500 While it was Russian control?

00:16:43.340 Yes, it was under Russian control.

00:16:45.120 He was vacationing in Russian control Crimea?

00:16:47.540 Yes, it was May 2014.

00:16:49.620 I talked to a person who was working for him, a person who was helping him put the windows into the house, and a person was telling different details about how Zelensky was behaving.

00:17:01.940 So everything that Zelensky is saying is really very different truth, you know, very different truth.

00:17:10.280 So he was the peace candidate.

00:17:11.760 He came promising that he would stand on his knees in front of Putin and beg Putin to stop.

00:17:20.340 That's what he was promising.

00:17:23.060 He was saying that Ukrainian and Russian languages are both languages that need to exist,

00:17:29.980 that people speak both languages and, you know, it makes people stronger,

00:17:33.760 that we need to be friends with Russia.

00:17:36.600 He was saying all this stuff and that's why people voted for him.

00:17:40.000 They didn't want war.

00:17:41.760 nobody wants war there is nothing good in war and now he totally adapted some nationalist

00:17:48.340 ideology that is not natural for ukrainians and he really plays it well and uh what what happened

00:17:58.100 how did i mean most people the united states were not paying attention yes and we sort of look up

00:18:05.260 to the tv and there's joe biden's vice president kamala harris at the munich security conference

00:18:11.120 in January 2022 with Zelensky saying, you need to join NATO. And he says, great. That's not

00:18:18.860 the behavior of someone who wants to avoid war. You know, one thing is that he has been escalating

00:18:24.920 the rhetoric. Another thing, you know, I was present at his meeting with Vladimir Putin in

00:18:29.560 2019 in Paris. There were very few people near him who knew the truth. He had private conversation

00:18:36.220 with putin where he promised putin that ukraine will never join nato so he's in 2019 yes it was

00:18:42.980 december 2019 and there was a personal conversation there were very few people know what he promised

00:18:48.400 he he said no nato because that ukraine has never you know ukraine has never was was never close to

00:18:56.680 to nato for being the part of nato first of all we need to have market economy and be reformed

00:19:02.920 country. It's not like just Trump doesn't want Ukraine in NATO or Biden doesn't want Ukraine.

00:19:08.440 It's not about names. It's just like we're not ready for NATO. There is no consensus to be NATO.

00:19:13.920 It's imagination. It's lies. He sticked to this fact of joining NATO knowing that it's impossible.

00:19:23.820 He was pushing the impossible agenda and making it a condition for peace. In October 2024,

00:19:29.700 he presented to the parliament victory plan and he said that joining NATO is the most important

00:19:37.140 thing and long-range missiles for Ukraine are the most important thing and and you know he made this

00:19:43.660 the plan victory plan but it's ridiculous it's impossible and look how he uses it he uses

00:19:50.320 impossible things to justify his own agenda and actually creating his hero image for instance

00:19:59.020 remember after he left donald trump he said it's not so easy to get rid of me he said this to the

00:20:06.600 journalists um if ukraine is taken to nata i'm ready to step down knowing that ukraine is not

00:20:14.560 going to be taken to nata so it's very easy to promise something under the condition of

00:20:20.440 impossible things yes right that's what he is doing so this is one thing um what the second

00:20:27.920 think if i can oh of course one of the most shocking moments for me personally if i'm for

00:20:34.500 communications team uh in 2019 2020 was he was um really scared that his ratings started dropping

00:20:44.000 down and he was sure that communications team was guilty in that so he thought it was your fault

00:20:50.860 not mine but all communications people but i was you know they're the part of the team

00:20:55.640 and he gathered us and he started saying that there are no positive news about what he is doing

00:21:01.480 in the country and my colleague started arguing with the president very diplomatically but she

00:21:08.440 was saying look there are no so many positive things that are happening you're promising

00:21:12.000 something but doesn't happen she was of course very diplomatic she didn't say it like that but

00:21:17.800 that was the thought and he said it doesn't matter what's happening um the most important thing we

00:21:23.800 need 1000 of talking heads. And if 1000 of talking heads tells positive things, then positive things

00:21:31.380 are happening that people believe that there are positive things. And she kept arguing and she

00:21:36.560 brought a very good example. She said, there was a group of internally displaced people from Donbass

00:21:42.940 families who lost homes and Zelensky promised them apartments. And we don't speak about thousands or

00:21:48.820 hundreds there were like 10 apartments or something like this and nobody took care about

00:21:53.540 that so he promised the families were waiting nobody took care about that so she said if there

00:22:00.360 are no those apartments people will know that there are no apartments it doesn't matter how

00:22:04.520 many talking hats will say that there are apartments right and he said no if if talking

00:22:10.380 hats thousand people tell you that this is happening then this is happening so she continued

00:22:16.160 to argue and he became very irritated and he put his hands like this what he was doing he leaned to

00:22:22.920 the table he looked at us and he said very in a very irritated tone i need gobbels propaganda if

00:22:32.000 you want i need gobbels propaganda i need thousands of talking heads of gobbels propaganda

00:22:38.260 meaning joseph goebbels the nazi propaganda yes that was major hitler's propagandist

00:22:44.700 and we were like so shocked we we stopped breathing but okay the thing is that i believe

00:22:52.420 what happened in 2022 he's got his thousands of talking heads globally right and many of that of

00:23:01.180 us were not supposed to be his heads we just you know we were standing for the country we we believed

00:23:08.240 that he would stop the war soon that that you know we needed to be united we believed in that

00:23:15.320 and four years later ukrainians don't believe in zelensky's agenda anymore but still there are

00:23:22.200 thousands of talking hats and many of them just get paid for that you know who do they get paid

00:23:28.140 by oh uh different stuff for instance if they are asked to the conferences for moderation

00:23:33.900 or for writing positive message it's called positive message about ukraine uh some oligarchs

00:23:40.620 can pay or you know it goes from grants or something like this in ukraine obviously the

00:23:47.200 experts get paid from uh the structures that are close to the government those the biggest patriots

00:23:53.100 or um you know grants from european union for instance and you know i'm not saying that these

00:23:58.340 people are bad. No, they are not. In many ways, they just not are aware what's happening. They're

00:24:04.340 talking to each other or to some experts or to the government. They still believe in the legend

00:24:10.200 that Zelensky has some ratings. And by the way, just a week ago, I was talking to insider from

00:24:15.500 the office of the president. And again, I was working for the office of the president. I know

00:24:19.740 there are different ratings, ratings that are closed just for the eyes of the president and

00:24:24.860 few in the team and ratings that are presented to the public. And the insider from politics who

00:24:32.760 saw the ratings said that Zelensky is non-electable. His ratings are so low. I was looking at those

00:24:39.260 ratings in 2023 and 2024 every month, and his ratings were very, very low, getting lower and

00:24:45.860 lower and lower. And here is another big revelation for you. When Donald Trump went out and named

00:24:52.800 Zelensky a dictator and when he was talking about low ratings of Zelensky of course Zelensky said

00:24:59.160 that Donald Trump is influenced by Russians and this is all Russian propaganda and Donald Trump

00:25:04.720 was called pro-Russian as every critic of Zelensky but in fact Donald Trump got information from a

00:25:12.500 lot of Ukrainians these are former government officials and even current government officials

00:25:17.600 These are people who closed to President Zelensky.

00:25:20.700 They provided evidence, documents, witnesses, what they knew, everything.

00:25:25.840 Because when Donald Trump came to power for the second term,

00:25:29.120 so many Ukrainians hoped and still hope that he will help achieve peace.

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00:28:36.280 What was Zelensky's relationship?

00:28:39.140 I'm so angry now.

00:28:41.880 It's okay. You have every reason to be. You have every reason to be. It's your country.

00:28:48.060 Can't even imagine, actually.

00:28:50.260 You can't.

00:28:51.140 No, I can't. I hope I never have to see anything like that here.

00:28:55.580 What was Zelensky's relationship like with Joe Biden?

00:28:58.640 oh so there is a very good american journalist who wrote a book and he mentioned that relationships

00:29:07.900 but i also met him and he told me in private conversation that biden was thinking that

00:29:13.520 zelensky was emotionally manipulative when i was there uh he also described in the book

00:29:21.180 that Zelensky thought that Biden was weak. When I was there, Zelensky had several interviews to

00:29:29.100 push Biden for some agenda. And I remember that I met one American diplomat. He was pissed off

00:29:36.420 with this interview. He was shouting at me so, so much. And it was a party. And I was not the

00:29:43.040 organizer. Mr. Yermak was an organizer. And a diplomat knew he's just so pissed off that he

00:29:49.320 couldn't stop shouting and he shouted that that interview was kind of either stupid or unprofessional 0.99

00:29:56.660 and it shouldn't be like that. When I was leaving and I resigned, there are boards who are spreading 0.98

00:30:03.480 the rumor that I was fired because I worked for Russia. This is not true. We departed on good

00:30:08.940 terms. Zelensky thanked me. He wished me good luck. They wanted me to continue as an advisor

00:30:14.800 to the office. So we departed in good terms. The thing is that Zelensky actually was destroying

00:30:26.100 relations with multiple actors in the West, including with the United States. And one of

00:30:33.700 the things was that since 2020 till 2021 for a year, there was a reform agenda and Zelensky

00:30:41.580 it literally was destroying every reform and it was happening like one by one like and that was

00:30:47.920 disastrous and what kind of reforms uh what kind of reforms so there was uh an agreement with the

00:30:56.180 imf in 2020 ukraine was as often on the verge of uh default and we needed money and obviously imf

00:31:05.220 doesn't provide you money for free so there was like 10 or 12 positions of the reforms that needed

00:31:09.880 to be done. So Zelensky really did a miraculous job with two of the most difficult reforms. He

00:31:18.540 pressed the parliament to vote for them, which actually means that he could go through this

00:31:26.140 agenda, a difficult agenda, and push for the reforms. He just didn't want to. As soon as two

00:31:31.180 reforms were pushed through, the IMF approved $5.5 billion. And I remember I was present at

00:31:38.400 the conversation between Zelensky and Kristalina Georgieva. They spoke in Russian because Kristalina

00:31:43.440 Georgieva is Bulgarian, and they had such trust and understanding, you know. But as soon as the

00:31:49.780 money came through, and the first tranche was 2.1 billion more than they wanted to give at the

00:31:56.040 beginning, in a few days, Zelensky violated the first reform. He fired, by political reasons,

00:32:03.560 the head of the National Bank. And it was a big scandal. Kristalina Georgieva called back and she

00:32:09.880 never spoke in Russian to Zelensky anymore because she was undermined. She promised to the board that

00:32:15.860 he was a reliable man, that he agreed for reforms, that he proved that he could push reforms through.

00:32:21.240 And then suddenly, as soon as he gets first money, he fires the head of the National Bank.

00:32:26.900 And the head of the National Bank said that he was fired via political pressure. And, you know,

00:32:31.260 There was a scandal. Zelensky explained to her this. He said, there will be another independent head of the National Bank, but he will just be our head of National Bank. He will be professional and independent, but he will be coming from us. He even doesn't understand what he's saying, right? It's hilarious. Do you understand me?

00:32:56.940 I do, I do.

00:32:57.660 Okay, so then after that, there was justice reform.

00:33:03.780 There was a scandal in the courts.

00:33:06.640 Then there was another, another, another, like every reform.

00:33:09.820 And the last one that was really blowing up, it was corporate reform.

00:33:16.040 Actually, the reform that was needed to be destroyed to make corruption.

00:33:19.400 so uh the united states helped ukraine to establish the corporate reform as in the united

00:33:27.600 states there is the board of independent people who looks how actually the state enterprises are

00:33:34.680 working and looking so that there is no corruption there there is a big ukrainian

00:33:40.240 oil and gas company and naftogas in ukraine and zelensky just dismissed the independent board

00:33:47.480 and put his own people there and yeah this is something that hasn't been public but we were

00:33:55.560 talking to anti-corruption activists and there was money laundering at some point from nafta gas

00:34:01.020 so the landscape just wanted to turn this state oil and gas company in in russian gas prom so

00:34:07.720 when there is your own person there and there are dark offices and the money is laundered from there

00:34:12.880 And that's when the United States was so pissed off that they did not prolong the sanctions against Nord Stream.

00:34:23.500 I'm going really deep here.

00:34:25.760 I don't know if your audience is going to understand everything.

00:34:31.740 But Nord Stream was a pipeline that Russia was building to bring its own gas to the European Union.

00:34:38.880 And it was sanctioned by the United States.

00:34:42.880 And so when Ukraine, when President Zelenskyy was actually violating all the reforms that he had agreed with the United States, at some point, Biden's administration was so pissed off that they decided to allow Russia to finish this Nord Stream pipeline.

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00:35:52.240 Is Zelensky himself corrupt?

00:35:54.800 So there was one minister.

00:35:56.680 I don't name the people, okay?

00:35:58.240 But he had good connections with the United States, and that's why Zelensky appreciated him.

00:36:04.940 And there was this absolutely ridiculous story that Ukrainian ministries get very low salaries, like $12,000 per year.

00:36:16.240 That's why there is corruption there, right?

00:36:19.360 And he said, look, I don't need much, but I will need like $5,000 per month, so $60,000 per year.

00:36:26.240 Like, you know, really didn't want much, but that would guarantee that he did not make corruption.

00:36:31.940 Zelensky, of course, promised him in his first interview

00:36:35.120 and obviously did not do anything for that.

00:36:37.900 So the minister just started writing himself premium bonuses.

00:36:43.620 And opposition was attacking him like,

00:36:46.160 oh, my God, $5,000 per month for the minister.

00:36:48.940 That was such a scandal.

00:36:50.500 You know, Zelensky obviously didn't like that.

00:36:52.940 So when the first government was dismissed,

00:36:54.940 this guy was invited and Zelensky said,

00:36:57.500 look, I like how you work.

00:36:58.620 You have good relations with the West.

00:37:00.000 Maybe you want to continue in the other government, but you cannot have $5,000 of official salary

00:37:06.120 because it causes so much scandal.

00:37:08.620 And when the guy entered the room, there was President Zelensky here, Mr. Yermak here,

00:37:14.400 and another person whom I know here, and there was a bag of dollars on their table.

00:37:20.440 And the guy said, I can't give you $5,000 of official salary, but I will be giving you

00:37:24.540 $5,000 of, you know, money every month.

00:37:27.380 So you can get your salary, but it's not going to be official, okay?

00:37:31.840 Which means if Zelensky knows it, it's not corruption.

00:37:35.200 Of course.

00:37:36.640 You see?

00:37:37.280 Does he take, do you think Zelensky and his family have gotten rich since the war began?

00:37:42.320 They have always been rich.

00:37:43.780 He's playing this poor guy in his, this cheap sweater.

00:37:50.080 He is rich, obviously.

00:37:52.480 Look, I don't know where the money goes.

00:37:54.420 but I was meeting one veteran of politics who has known Zelensky for dozens of years

00:37:59.820 and the first thing he asks me where is the money what he's like I know Zelensky for many years

00:38:06.900 he has never lifted a finger for free he would never do anything for free so you know I'm not

00:38:13.380 a law enforcement it's something for the law enforcement to prove yes but I've just told

00:38:17.540 you already two stories right there was another story from another minister who just called us

00:38:23.420 recently and he said when he was on the position those very close people to Zelensky were actually

00:38:33.660 taking percentage from some governmental programs I mean illegal percentage yes and he told Zelensky

00:38:42.920 that they are taking really too much already like really they're insisting on very big amounts

00:38:48.820 and Zelensky smiled and said good job guys good job guys and he was not joking the minister says

00:38:57.760 he was not joking he was really happy it was happening and then the minister thought oh we're

00:39:03.180 not going far with this yeah he resigned later now in the government there are very few people

00:39:11.540 who are professionals, they are there, but very few.

00:39:15.800 Mostly Zelensky puts there loyalists who will never say no

00:39:20.260 and who create the agenda that absolutely is out of mind.

00:39:25.560 He just wants something, like if he is writing his script,

00:39:29.600 you know, of the servant of the people,

00:39:31.860 and then he just wants, he demands these, and people go,

00:39:36.900 and, you know, they just make up some reports,

00:39:39.840 and he goes with these reports and says that this is true.

00:39:43.520 This is how it works, unfortunately.

00:39:45.560 He's a PR guy, and PR only PR.

00:39:48.800 He's not the guy of substance.

00:39:51.980 Who does he listen to?

00:39:53.220 Who are his advisors?

00:39:54.240 Yermak, you said, was the chief of staff for years.

00:39:57.160 I don't know that he still is,

00:39:58.420 but he's identified in the West as Zelensky's closest friend and advisor.

00:40:02.940 Is that true?

00:40:03.480 And who is Yermak?

00:40:05.120 Mr. Yermak started his career at the strip club.

00:40:09.840 long ago. Yeah, like not stripper, but as a lawyer.

00:40:14.260 At a strip club. Yes, that was a strip club where there were a lot of those people who later would 0.98

00:40:19.960 become politicians in the pro-Russian party. And he was a lawyer there. And I was talking to

00:40:28.180 first employee of Yermak, and first employee said he had so many ambitions, and he had no

00:40:34.340 absolutely talents for those ambitions that's that's just you know a quote uh yeah so he started

00:40:41.480 like that and he met there a lot of people who would later join into politics um at the strip

00:40:46.380 club yeah it was very famous strip club uh it was 90s i think or early 2000s then he was working for

00:40:55.260 a store of luxury brands that mostly are brought not officially via smuggling.

00:41:05.600 And that's where he also met a lot of rich people, oligarchs, and 95th Quartal is also

00:41:11.860 buying clothes there. So officially, Mr. Remak says that he was a lawyer at one of the biggest

00:41:17.300 Ukrainian channels, and that's where he met Zelensky. He used to be a general producer of

00:41:21.740 that channel but i'm not sure where they met uh so it's possible that they just met through you

00:41:27.460 know some other entertaining uh stories uh yermak also made some movies about smuggling which is

00:41:33.980 very symbolic for me since he used to work in that business uh he was involved in some dark affairs

00:41:40.180 of mafia stuff on the level of kiev city and um that's how you know he knew a lot of politicians

00:41:48.100 And from the point of view of not politics, but how the things can be done, he could be helpful to Zelensky.

00:42:00.440 Their relations was very strange, very different, very, very difficult, very strange.

00:42:07.680 Yermak knows that he is personally a narcissist and he knows that Zelensky is a narcissist. 0.91

00:42:14.220 And these are two malign and paranoid narcissists. 0.94

00:42:17.320 oh my god what i'm saying that but that's true um your mark and zelinski are both malign 0.98

00:42:23.240 narcissists your mark and zelinski are both malignant and very paranoid narcissists who 0.93

00:42:29.660 are both on defensive mode and they're both paranoid your mark more how paranoid 0.97

00:42:37.140 oh your mark he just creates the stuff from nowhere he's just like

00:42:43.000 you don't need to do anything while he can come up with something. I don't know. It's really

00:42:49.520 some kind of a sick mind to be frank. And it was some kind of a symbiose. And Zelensky had the 0.99

00:42:59.020 vision and Jermak had the tools to implement the vision. It was not about politics or policies.

00:43:05.140 It was more about what they wanted for themselves.

00:43:11.840 It's important to say that sometimes Zelensky didn't know how to make what he wanted, how to make it work.

00:43:21.180 Yes.

00:43:21.680 So he was just saying the desires and Jermak was finding the way.

00:43:26.960 and often and often it was happening that zelensky then says to do this but jermak calls and say don't

00:43:32.800 do this because he saw doing this in this way and in general that was so chaotic like no professional

00:43:40.900 could work there i'm saying that it's it's not possible because they're just like keeping saying

00:43:45.940 different things keeping changing the strategies keeping changing the moods keeping changing

00:43:50.820 everything all the time and they create this feeling that there is so much work and everybody

00:43:57.740 works works works but no nothing is done sounds awful it's it's really strange but i i'm not the

00:44:05.640 one who knows that what what what do you think zelinski wanted like what were his goals

00:44:11.600 uh well i definitely know that uh he thought he came forever uh his first chief of staff said it

00:44:21.280 once he laughed to the minister and said we came forever that's um so he liked being the dictator

00:44:29.560 well he is a dictator uh the closed the borders are closed now for four years it's illegally

00:44:37.800 the human rights violations is enormous the persecution of the people in 2024 when donald

00:44:45.460 trump came to power there was a member of parliament who wrote on telegram zelensky now

00:44:49.800 you need to stop this war and yes you will lose the next elections but stop this war

00:44:54.600 like trump will push you stop this war and uh he was in jail in three days he's still in jail

00:45:01.420 and i talked yeah and i talked to security services and they said he he never talked to

00:45:07.220 russia since 2021 no connection but he is uh accused in treason and there are a lot of people

00:45:15.320 who are people are persecuted um obviously there are dirty campaigns everyone who criticizes

00:45:22.140 zelensky is just a pro-russian russian pro-kremlin you're pro-kremlin i will be pro-kremlin after

00:45:30.260 this interview you know i believe that american special services do their job well and if there

00:45:35.980 were any pro-kremlin payments or contacts obviously they would know that right um yeah so

00:45:42.660 in general this is it but you know for me personally the situation in the country is

00:45:50.000 inhuman because i never would think that my country would be the one where people are grabbed

00:45:56.800 on the streets and forced to the front lines i never would think that we all agree and stay

00:46:04.040 silent to the fact that zelensky uses front line as the punishment like he uses the war as a

00:46:11.660 punishment political punishment yeah he even was uh open about that he was saying if somebody

00:46:18.280 does something bad we need to punish them and send to the front line that was his statements

00:46:24.920 But there are people who are sent there

00:46:27.440 just because they're critics of Zelensky, you know.

00:46:31.200 Do you know anyone who's been sent for criticizing Zelensky?

00:46:34.260 There were people from the security services

00:46:36.720 who were sent publicly,

00:46:38.740 and there were a few people who were sent there.

00:46:41.420 What's it like, the front line?

00:46:44.200 There are different front lines.

00:46:46.080 Some people find front line, you know, in a cozy place,

00:46:49.180 just wearing the uniform and playing the role of some bloggers.

00:46:53.160 But I know people who survived when their units were killed.

00:46:59.800 It's terrifying.

00:47:01.660 My mother was treating soldiers who were sent in bad uniforms during winter to another site.

00:47:09.640 And their fingers and limbs were cut off because they were frozen.

00:47:15.640 Every year, Ukrainians are collecting money for their uniforms, you know, necessary stuff.

00:47:21.520 women are cooking food for for the soldiers no i'm not kidding there are a lot of volunteers

00:47:26.580 but the west has sent hundreds of billions of dollars and they don't have gloves or food

00:47:31.700 well they have some of them have food some of them are looking for more you know and uh yeah

00:47:39.040 usually people are collecting even money for weapons or for starlings what about all the

00:47:44.100 hundreds of billions from the yeah you need to track it you need to track it but look uh there

00:47:48.560 is a scandal right now in ukraine when the minister of energy was fired and it is now known that he

00:47:55.680 helped money laundry 112 million dollars 112 million dollars and those money should have been

00:48:04.040 used for the shield for energy sector and it's a huge scandal in ukraine there is proven stuff by

00:48:10.340 the law enforcement. And behind the whole scheme is the guy who worked with Russian mafia.

00:48:19.220 That's amazing. You should go and look into it. But there is the whole scheme with the offshore 0.96

00:48:24.240 companies with names behind. And the Minister of Energy himself got $12 million for this. So it's

00:48:31.820 around 10%. And 10% is usually paid for those who help establish the scheme, right? So where is the

00:48:40.320 90 percent that is the question i'm just i know i've said this before but i'm amazed that more

00:48:48.600 people from zelinski's government haven't come forward to say this in the west in english why is

00:48:55.000 that why those people are afraid what are they afraid of on netflix there is a movie a series

00:49:03.920 how to become a tyrant I didn't know about that unless one governmental official came to me and

00:49:11.980 said I watched that series it's what's happening in the country and it was before the war I mean

00:49:18.560 light-scale war everyone is afraid Zelensky has no limits that's the problem I am sitting here

00:49:26.160 because I know that he is in a weak point today and I know that there are a lot of people in his 0.97

00:49:33.180 government and in his vertical of power who want peace and i'm i didn't want to put shit on him i'm 0.94

00:49:40.520 sitting here because i want peace too and this guy is going to come up with any condition he's 0.95

00:49:46.740 going to change the positions all the time just to prolong this war and to get more money he doesn't

00:49:53.580 want to have political suicide finishing war for him is a political suicide you see i do so i'm

00:50:00.740 sitting here having this belief that if he is furiously ordering the people to arrange something

00:50:09.080 against me, maybe in this vertical of power would be people who will not agree now. But even two

00:50:17.660 years ago, they would do whatever he want. What do you think he would do to you for saying this

00:50:24.600 if you could.

00:50:27.980 Look, I'm risking everything. 0.65

00:50:29.740 I cannot return to Ukraine

00:50:30.880 after this interview, okay?

00:50:37.000 I know people who get threats.

00:50:41.440 A month ago,

00:50:42.500 there was a banker in Milan

00:50:44.680 who fell out of the window.

00:50:48.440 In Milan?

00:50:49.420 Yes.

00:50:50.260 Milan, Italy.

00:50:51.220 Yes.

00:50:52.680 And Italy is investigating

00:50:54.440 it. But there was one guy, a story that nobody paid attention to, who died when Zelensky was

00:51:02.840 traveling to Mr. Biden in September 2023. The guy used to be a governor of my region,

00:51:11.300 Kherson region, where I'm originally from. If you think about the governors, they are usually very

00:51:17.940 rich, local, very successful, strong people who have their people everywhere, have established

00:51:24.420 processes, have a lot of money. It's very strange that he died behind garages by making suicide of

00:51:32.660 poisoning himself. And I talked to one very deep insider and top position in security service and

00:51:40.700 the guy told me this is a very strange death because this guy was negotiating with Russians.

00:51:46.940 He was getting his orders from Yermak, I know the middleman, and then he was passing some information to Russians when Russians were occupying Kherson, and then back.

00:51:59.980 And then when Zelensky travels to Biden, this guy makes suicide behind garages, and security service explains that he had a depression.

00:52:11.760 He had depression.

00:52:13.000 He had depression.

00:52:13.720 A rich guy, strong guy, used to be a governor.

00:52:18.540 He had depression and he decided to poison himself behind garages.

00:52:24.840 I mean, this all just doesn't come together.

00:52:27.440 No, it doesn't.

00:52:28.340 So people who work for Zelensky believe that if they were to criticize him, they could be killed.

00:52:34.220 Or jailed.

00:52:35.300 Or jailed.

00:52:36.000 I told you just about the member of parliament.

00:52:37.980 But there are also those people who sit there for years.

00:52:40.720 And the courts cannot, the general prosecution cannot prove the guilt that they're accused in.

00:52:48.080 It's also treason, you know, collaboration with Russia.

00:52:51.880 How do you prove that? 0.80

00:52:53.160 It's for, yeah, and it's for criticism.

00:52:56.660 It's just, you know, political fight, nothing more.

00:53:00.920 What are jails like in Ukraine?

00:53:02.560 Oh, they're awful.

00:53:04.540 Oh, they're awful.

00:53:05.980 a lot of people in one place now by the way there was the news that diseases are being spread it's

00:53:15.460 very cold the food is terrible it's it's it's a terrible place to be it's not like in american

00:53:21.120 jail no it's a terrible place to be so ukrainians can't speak up for fear of being imprisoned or

00:53:28.820 killed but why do you think western media hasn't spoken up here i would like to say uh the thing

00:53:37.640 that the freedom of speech in ukraine is in bad shape but i believe that it improved when donald

00:53:46.460 trump came to power for the second term because there are more and more news coming up and

00:53:52.500 despite that some journalists are also sent to the front lines or attacked still you know there

00:53:59.280 are materials that are coming up and when this freezing winter was happening terrible winter when

00:54:07.460 people were freezing their homes without light without water their whole is a revolution on

00:54:15.740 instagram ukrainian instagram started and i wanted to tell you two trends just two of multiple trends

00:54:21.560 that are happening on Instagram right now

00:54:23.760 that will show you that Ukrainians

00:54:27.200 are suffering under Zelensky.

00:54:29.300 They don't support what Zelensky is doing.

00:54:31.900 One of the trends is

00:54:33.420 they are burning the books

00:54:35.860 with Zelensky's speeches

00:54:37.160 in their fireplaces or fires

00:54:39.920 saying,

00:54:41.220 huh, finally we figured out

00:54:42.900 why we needed those.

00:54:45.380 The second thing is very politically incorrect

00:54:48.480 and I'm very sorry in front of the audience.

00:54:50.500 You're in a safe place, don't worry.

00:54:51.380 Okay. I'm very sorry, but I try to describe the desperacy and the dark humor that Ukrainians use. A driver is parking on the parking lot for a place for a disabled person. And another person is coming with a telephone asking, why did you park on the place for a disabled person? 1.00

00:55:13.420 And the driver responds, I'm going to vote for Zelensky for the second time. 0.98

00:55:23.240 You mean mentally disabled? Yes. 0.56

00:55:26.440 So these are trends. This is not like one reel, two reels. These are trends, and they're going viral. And this is the way how people are trying to shout out, we are desperate.

00:55:38.440 it please stop this war please stop this nonsense please stop this autocracy there is no reason why

00:55:47.840 to fight this war it's senseless you see people lost all sense of this war like if this war is 0.84

00:55:56.640 for nata or against nata expansion then ukraine has no chances to be in nata if putin conducts

00:56:04.120 this war against Zelensky, then Zelensky is the main beneficiary of this war. If this war is for

00:56:11.240 returning territories, then we have been losing territories for three years. If this war is for

00:56:18.200 democracy, then we have no democracy in the country now. People in the frontline regions,

00:56:24.700 they tell terrible things. One person told me, I don't know what we are fighting for. What's the

00:56:30.780 difference between Ukraine and Russia right now. There is autocracy there and autocracy here. There

00:56:35.900 is no anything that would be democratic now. So what's the fight for? This is not what I'm saying.

00:56:42.880 This is what people from different regions are saying. And I believe that Zelensky had two

00:56:49.060 chances of finishing this war in 2022. Two chances. Now he says that 90% of Ukrainians

00:56:57.800 will not forgive him giving up donbass where does he come from with these numbers like there are no

00:57:05.180 such numbers realistically no such numbers and i was talking to people who represented ukraine

00:57:13.280 at negotiations in istanbul in 2022 yes the famous negotiations where they came pretty close

00:57:18.720 oh they were almost done yeah and i was explained in details that they agreed for everything

00:57:25.780 and furthermore which is very important they said that Zelensky personally agreed to give away

00:57:32.940 Donbass and I was shocked at that moment it was a shocking news and I said really did he and the

00:57:40.340 guys told of course he is he is okay with that because he will stop the horror of war he he

00:57:47.980 agreed for giving away the territory because because that would mean the war is over and now

00:57:55.600 he is standing in front of millions of audiences telling i cannot give away donbass you see he he

00:58:02.500 is inconsistent he is changing the positions all the time the second time when he could and

00:58:10.880 the office of the president planned he would finish the war was the end of 2022 and as i read

00:58:18.100 the new york times who actually confirmed my insights that the biden administration decided

00:58:26.600 to go with his plan to continue that war that was mr blinken who was advising you know if ukraine

00:58:34.020 wants to fight then ukraine needs to fight despite all the evidence that we could not win that of

00:58:40.160 course not um you know there is this thing also everything that is said against Zelensky is being

00:58:49.060 pro-russian and now um you know this mr johnson prime minister johnson thing boris johnson yes 0.63

00:58:56.440 boris johnson is a big friend of Zelensky he's an evil man uh so um remember bucha bucha is a

00:59:06.660 small town in Kiev region, and it was occupied by Russia. And there are a lot of terrible things and

00:59:13.360 terrible deaths happened there. And Zelensky came to Bucha after it was deoccupied on April 4, 2022.

00:59:21.260 And I remember him standing in front of the journalist and he had this, you know, terrible

00:59:25.640 face and terrible, terrible, you know, look. And he was it, it felt like he went through pain while

00:59:34.740 seeing all those bodies there but he was asked if he was going to continue the negotiations

00:59:42.260 with russia and he said yes yes i am going to continue that's fixed on a camera he was going

00:59:48.860 to continue and then you know they had all the agreement by positions about donbass about

00:59:56.200 language about many many things they agreed upon everything and then boris johnson came 0.73

01:00:01.920 And now it is sad that this is Putin's lies, but this story was told by Ukrainians.

01:00:09.060 It was not told by Russians.

01:00:11.380 Ukrainians who were trying to bring peace knew that Boris Johnson influenced the decision.

01:00:18.960 And Zelensky was promised to have everything, weapons, influence, fame, you know, and he

01:00:25.400 will fight Russia and he will be a great hero.

01:00:28.280 And that's everything that Zelensky wants. 0.60

01:00:30.000 He doesn't care about people.

01:00:31.920 he cares about staying in power he cares about being the great hero in the history

01:00:37.000 so i believe there were two two moments where he could finish this war but he chose the war of

01:00:45.460 attrition i don't know how 25 million of ukrainians who stay in the country can have for war with

01:00:52.300 attrition with with russia that has the population of 140 million people uh with russia who by the

01:00:59.960 way in four years has not even borrowed for this war and ukraine has the debt of 100 percent of

01:01:07.380 gdp with russia that awaits sanctions still tries to sell you know it's and ukraine has no market

01:01:17.100 economy i mean russia is so much bigger than ukraine that ukraine could never win it's just

01:01:24.340 too big russia's too big you know the new york times wrote a story that was scandalous in 2023

01:01:30.040 and the title was ukraine will need to choose between people and territories and we are indeed

01:01:35.580 choosing and our leader is choosing but it's not i mean look i'm not an expert at all on on eastern

01:01:41.880 europe but i have wikipedia i just look up land mass population industrial capacity you don't need

01:01:48.260 that much information to know this country cannot beat that country in a land war which is i

01:01:54.040 It was obvious.

01:01:55.200 I don't understand.

01:01:56.500 I think it's obvious for Zelensky too, but he thrives on this war. 0.81

01:02:00.300 He thrives on this war.

01:02:01.900 Why would he finish it?

01:02:03.300 Well, because it's destroying his country.

01:02:05.860 I don't think he thinks about that. 0.67

01:02:07.700 But in 2024, I was talking to a very smart guy who knows Russia and knows Ukraine very well.

01:02:14.560 He used to be an advisor to the president.

01:02:17.440 He's an American, by the way.

01:02:18.920 and he said to me that Zelensky

01:02:21.840 would finish the war

01:02:22.920 until the end of 2024.

01:02:25.280 And I said, no, he won't.

01:02:26.900 He said, why?

01:02:27.760 He's losing territories. 0.85

01:02:29.040 Russians will go to Dnipropetrovsk 1.00

01:02:30.640 and other regions,

01:02:31.720 Borussia, Odessa, Kharkiv, Sumy, Chernigiv.

01:02:35.500 He names all those regions of Ukraine.

01:02:37.760 And I'm like,

01:02:38.200 this is not the reason for him to stop.

01:02:40.620 And the guy could not understand.

01:02:42.840 Like he could not.

01:02:43.700 He's like, but why?

01:02:45.240 You're going to lose the territories.

01:02:47.000 You're going to lose more.

01:02:47.980 and i'm saying this is not not how he thinks he he he imagines the lives like his thinking is

01:02:58.280 limited with thinking of what he sees of his beautiful golden office you know and and and

01:03:07.180 the guy was like okay they're in the party i'm like not a reason they're not a reason they're

01:03:12.420 There, there, there.

01:03:13.640 And then the guy says, okay, there needs to be somewhere, a point where he will understand that Russians are winning. 0.75

01:03:20.620 Maybe when Russians are with the guns in his office. 0.90

01:03:23.580 I'm like, yeah, that's where he will understand. 0.63

01:03:25.700 So it sounds like he doesn't care very much about Ukraine.

01:03:28.140 He never cared.

01:03:29.120 He never cared about the people.

01:03:31.440 That's the point.

01:03:36.200 I tried to come up not only with the insights.

01:03:39.620 I think the things that I told you are quite terrible.

01:03:41.960 But this is who he is. But let's just check the facts online, okay? At the Munich conference, Zelensky insisted that ceasefire is the condition for peace, for negotiations, and for elections. He is keeping pushing for ceasefire, again, knowing that Russia is against ceasefire. It's like the NATO story, right?

01:04:04.440 If you go online and check his speech for the UN General Assembly in September 2024, he was saying that no ceasefire is possible, that it's very irresponsible to ask Ukraine for a ceasefire, that a ceasefire will lead to a frozen conflict.

01:04:22.420 And he was going against a ceasefire all the time.

01:04:25.300 Then, second thing. In June 2024, there was a peace summit where Ukraine presented Zelensky's peace formula. There were 160 delegations coming from different countries. And I truly believe that those delegations wanted to discuss peace.

01:04:46.140 there were discussions about energy security returning children and something else

01:04:52.100 and sweden suggested that they invite russian delegation maybe even vladimir putin yeah and

01:05:01.240 office of the president was very much against it and office of the president of ukraine even

01:05:06.660 organized a media campaign saying that it is absolutely morally impossible to talk to russia

01:05:13.200 to putin we need just to pressure no negotiations with russia you see at the same time when he was

01:05:20.800 presenting the formula of peace ukraine was organizing the kursk region operation and how

01:05:27.560 do actually you offer the world to have peace and at the same time are planning operation to invade

01:05:34.500 Kursk region. You see, these are very inconsistent things. Then, after his just formula, where he

01:05:43.280 suggested one things, he offered victory plan, where he suggested completely different things.

01:05:49.700 Then, in November 2024, he said that he would agree for temporary occupation of some territories

01:05:56.720 if another government-controlled territory of Ukraine will be included in NATO. Then, in several

01:06:03.140 days he said that he was a misinterpreted i'm telling you so many examples when he has been

01:06:10.260 changing the conditions preconditions to end this war because he doesn't want to end the war

01:06:15.420 because he doesn't want to end this war i counted with my insights around seven attempts to finish

01:06:22.180 this war where he used different mediators he used different countries we promised those mediators he

01:06:29.600 promised those countries those leaders that he would start negotiations that he would agree for

01:06:34.560 conditions and he always lied but it's i'm not giving him a pass i'm not making excuses for

01:06:42.620 zelinski but ukraine has got you know 100 debt to gdp ratio limited industrial capacity like it

01:06:51.120 can't fight a war without western aid period and so it's france uk united states that are paying

01:06:59.100 for all this why would the western countries want to keep the war going obviously they do

01:07:06.340 this is a very good question to be frank i think that uh the approach that donald trump team

01:07:13.640 offered is a very constructive approach in any way ukraine wouldn't survive without aid but one

01:07:19.880 thing one thing is to plan the investment right to boost businesses to provide jobs to play taxes

01:07:28.360 to recover economy and to have returnings right and another one just to to provide the money for

01:07:36.260 the war and i believe that the governments gave so much money and some of those governments they

01:07:45.740 just cannot back up now they cannot say that we gave those money for a dictator because they're

01:07:52.640 afraid about their ratings and their own situation right now some of the europeans were saying

01:07:58.680 ukrainians members of parliament that ukraine was undermining them because of corruption

01:08:05.180 ukrainians are begging please just open your eyes help us stop this war it's it's not about your

01:08:13.540 ratings it's about people pain with blood of course but it sounds like that's not going to 0.99

01:08:18.940 be possible as long as Zelensky is there. The war won't end. I don't believe that he will finish 0.99

01:08:23.740 this war. No, it sounds like it. If there are seven attempts to finish the war and his only

01:08:31.360 position has been the war needs to continue, he's clearly not the guy to end the war. So how do you

01:08:36.460 get Zelensky out? That's a good question and I'm not the one to answer it. Well, there are no 0.80

01:08:40.960 elections so but we are in a legal trap here and uh he the last time when uh he was planning

01:08:47.380 elections uh he actually didn't want to leave the martial law and wanted to have one round

01:08:52.700 elections so that he can manufacture them and this is the article on a very reliable ukrainian

01:08:58.560 media outlet um the journalist talked to insiders from from the office and from the parliament

01:09:03.820 just another example look there was this munich security conference and

01:09:10.240 um zelensky assaulted uh the prime minister of hungary mr orban

01:09:15.640 that's so interesting just like i'm saying so many bad things i feel so bad about that

01:09:24.080 but just like if you're a rational person think about this yes the leader of ukraine standing

01:09:30.260 in front of all the leaders and keeps assaulting one of the European leaders in a week this

01:09:37.820 European leader will need to vote for a 90 billion loan for Ukraine and obviously Orban just blocked

01:09:45.140 everything and everybody is like pointing fingers to Orban how bad Orban is how bad Orban is perhaps

01:09:51.540 he is I'm not justifying Orban here but if you are a leader of a country how on earth are you

01:09:58.480 assaulting a person from whom you will need a support of 90 billion of a loan without which

01:10:04.840 ukraine just cannot go further so that's a great question and i watch him do the same thing to

01:10:09.440 donald trump absolutely but can i finish what is that yeah can i finish this moment the thing is

01:10:15.460 that um the conflict that has escalated recently is about a pipeline oil pipeline uh hungary was

01:10:23.020 getting russian oil through ukraine and it's damaged and zelensky made this again performance

01:10:29.440 huge performance as if he is a brave hero who is fighting against russian oil russian gas all

01:10:35.180 russian etc etc at the same time ukraine on technical level is repairing the pipeline

01:10:41.200 the european commission is insisting that we do it as fast as possible and ukraine is sending the

01:10:47.900 explanation to the european commission you know it will take some time but we are offering you

01:10:52.420 another pipeline so that there is no energy crisis. So the work is there, right? And Zelensky

01:10:59.100 is just performing some stuff in his head. And the other important moment in this, do you know

01:11:06.160 that this was France, not Hungary, who bought the biggest number of Russian energy products last

01:11:12.860 year, including Russian LNG that it's selling to Germany. So why doesn't Zelensky go against

01:11:20.060 macron i don't understand that well it's a great question i i'm i'm aware of this um and donald

01:11:25.940 trump um you know i was watching that thing that that oval office situation

01:11:32.500 for me it was so painful it is so painful every time when i'm posting on my twitter

01:11:40.500 videos of ruined ukrainian cities every time i have this quote from zelensky we've got

01:11:48.840 beautiful cities come and see i'm like how you can say that these ruins are beautiful cities

01:11:58.040 the thing is that many people who know zelensky they characterize the situation that this is

01:12:07.460 what's happening behind the camera usually such historical behavior no control of emotions

01:12:16.060 this manipulation, attempts to prove himself.

01:12:21.160 This is Zelensky.

01:12:22.500 This is how he looks all the time.

01:12:24.120 Is he a drug user?

01:12:27.420 This is an open secret.

01:12:31.100 The thing is that I've never seen him taking drugs.

01:12:34.800 However, for writing my book, I met a lot of people

01:12:38.020 who confirmed that they saw him taking drugs in different clubs.

01:12:42.260 and only one saw him taking drugs in 2021

01:12:47.160 i learned who is the supplier from 95th quartile um and i met that person and you met zelensky's

01:12:57.500 drug dealer i'm not saying he's a drug dealer he's a guy from 95th quartile and uh what's 95th

01:13:04.000 quartile 95th quartile uh it's it's it's entertaining company of zelensky uh uh 95th

01:13:10.680 where he comes from uh it's the guy who who is an actor um and uh he behaved really in a strange

01:13:19.560 way his eyes and his behavior is it is zelinski using cocaine again i i have not seen that so

01:13:27.100 uh the thing is that but you spoke all these people are talking about cocaine yes the second

01:13:33.640 thing is every time when we were preparing to the interview you know I was reading the notes

01:13:41.120 explaining who is the journalist what he needs to say the messaging the questions

01:13:45.740 he does not like reading to be frank usually he's more you know like tries to listen to you

01:13:55.740 and then he takes his like 15 minutes in the bathroom and I'm telling you that I was always

01:14:02.000 surprised um that he was going out a different person like really always a different person

01:14:08.060 so you'd be briefing him then he goes to the bathroom he spends there 15 minutes and he's

01:14:14.320 going out energized full of you know action ready to say everything sniffing

01:14:22.540 so i don't want to say something that i didn't see but but i met too many people

01:14:31.740 I met doctors I met you know people who spend time with him in the clubs and I talked to the

01:14:39.920 people who has been knowing him for like 20-25 years and they say he's a cocaine and also I

01:14:49.140 don't know if you followed that but there was an allegation accusation that he's a cocaine

01:14:54.280 user during his electoral campaign and that's why he invited his opponent President Poroshenko

01:15:00.980 at that moment to take analysis on drugs and he went to the clinics of his friend

01:15:08.460 and when the analysis was presented it happened that the analysis was dated by different date

01:15:14.840 when he gave those analysis that was a big scandal i mean this is everywhere the allegation

01:15:21.580 is everywhere there are many people for a long time for a long time yeah and you know there is

01:15:27.840 this very strange behavior obviously you know that there are a lot of things that point out to it

01:15:33.600 but i personally have not seen that but you spoke to his cocaine supplier from 95th quartile

01:15:39.580 not for the book i met him in the office of the president i didn't know about cocaine back then

01:15:45.780 but i was very surprised of his behavior his eyes were sparkling and he was so happy and slow

01:15:57.020 and he was trying to make some jokes that i didn't understand and was like this is a strange guy

01:16:03.540 and i didn't know what he was doing there because he didn't have any position

01:16:07.400 he just came to the office of the president what's slensky's wife like

01:16:12.800 you know many people who know her respect her many people

01:16:22.580 were saying that she was the only human who stayed nearby him. 0.83

01:16:28.740 She really didn't want him to go for the second term.

01:16:32.160 She even said this publicly.

01:16:36.280 But I believe she changed.

01:16:39.200 And I don't know if she still has that positive influence on him

01:16:44.660 that she used to have,

01:16:45.960 but Zelensky never thought that women are equally important.

01:16:50.320 he is the one who respects his woman

01:16:53.380 but not as she

01:16:55.260 if she is like really

01:16:56.940 equal

01:16:58.280 if it makes sense

01:16:59.960 once I was in this very weird

01:17:03.520 situation I was in many weird situations

01:17:05.520 with Zelensky it's just a norm

01:17:07.440 but there was this situation

01:17:09.860 where there was his

01:17:11.640 friend from 95th кварtale

01:17:13.540 and Zelensky there were three of us

01:17:15.760 I don't know for which reason this guy

01:17:19.800 started telling a very funny to his mind situation that olena zelenska was running after zelenski for

01:17:28.940 eight years to make him marry her and he he was a strong guy he didn't want to marry ha ha ha it

01:17:37.100 was so funny well definitely zelenski was smiling a lot and he liked the story i still don't

01:17:43.680 understand what was funny about that um i think zelenska is a smart person but she does not care

01:17:52.520 and doesn't know anything about politics and she doesn't want to be involved she tried to stay

01:17:58.740 human i'm not sure what worked out when did you leave the country ukraine i would prefer not to

01:18:08.340 talk about that okay i stayed in the country in 2022 oh we were shelled by the way when russians

01:18:15.140 were living butcher we were shelled it's just pure luck that he didn't hit the house we were 0.66

01:18:19.760 my husband went to the front lines

01:18:22.280 we stayed in 2023 majority of 2024 beginning of 2025 and i had so multiple sources that were

01:18:35.840 saying that Zelensky is not going to finish this war. People are going crazy there. I was going

01:18:41.880 crazy. You're like in the closed cage. You're being shelled and bombed. You can die any moment

01:18:48.800 from Russian drone or Russian missile. At the same time, you can't do anything. There are no

01:18:54.700 economic opportunities. There is no freedom of speech. Anything you do can be treated in a

01:19:02.420 different way the country is full of bands everything is bent there are strange rules

01:19:08.200 like there is this very strange rule that all the uh all the uh cars need to stop at 9 a.m

01:19:17.780 on the roads uh to listen to to the hymn uh it's just yeah like if you drive and then there is 9

01:19:26.560 am and there is ukrainian hymn you need to stop it there is really strange agenda and it looks

01:19:33.300 like surreal the country i don't recognize ukraine anymore everything is banned what does that mean

01:19:38.680 like he uses bands like like there is this culture that he developed the culture of banning

01:19:47.080 canceling people, artists, you know, poets, poets, churches, writers, you know, like anything he can

01:19:59.040 connect to Russia somehow. Sometimes it doesn't have any connection to Russia. It always makes

01:20:05.560 us weaker. Sometimes these are Ukrainians from the past, but yeah, they used to live under like 1.00

01:20:10.800 Russian Empire or the USSR there is this whole culture of cancellation he cancels bloggers

01:20:18.460 journalists not personally but but he has this tendency he has these orders like for instance in

01:20:27.040 late 2023 I learned from the security service that Zelensky collected his guys and told them that

01:20:33.360 they needed to go against critical bloggers at the end of at the beginning of 2024 there were like

01:20:39.640 purchase of bloggers bloggers were called to the security service having conversations why they did

01:20:46.060 that why they said that that they will be accused of being pro-russian there was a bunch of bloggers

01:20:51.200 that went against the war and they said we don't need the borders of 1991 we want to stop this war

01:20:58.640 and all of them were called for a security service one guy needed to leave the country he was

01:21:03.940 threatened. You know, every story can become a bigger story, can become a story with security

01:21:10.660 service, you see, can become a story of a treason. By the way, the cases of treason

01:21:15.940 rise multiple times in four years, multiple times. Treason is just another punishment, you see.

01:21:24.140 He sounds like a Bolshevik.

01:21:26.280 In many ways, it feels like it's the USSR that we read about. In many ways, it is. 0.78

01:21:33.060 so just to restate the question 0.97

01:21:35.740 is there any way to get rid of Zelensky

01:21:37.560 that's a good thing 0.88

01:21:40.620 you know

01:21:41.380 the problem

01:21:42.500 how to do this

01:21:45.660 in a legal way

01:21:47.320 and who

01:21:49.920 is going to be next

01:21:50.960 who's going to fight

01:21:53.760 with Zelensky on the electoral field

01:21:55.600 and how to restore

01:21:57.340 the electoral field in general

01:21:59.540 you see

01:22:00.900 And there are so many questions there that are not being solved at all.

01:22:06.080 And I'm not sure he wants to solve them. 0.71

01:22:08.740 So one big question to all the Ukrainians and Westerners who have resources, who have the power, who are strong enough, is actually how to make it in the legal field, how to finish this.

01:22:24.660 And that's the answer to your question, why are Ukrainians silent?

01:22:29.780 Rich people are afraid of being sanctioned.

01:22:31.800 By the way, it's also a legal instrument that Zelensky uses.

01:22:35.200 He sanctions his own citizens, and it's absolutely anti-constitutional.

01:22:40.380 And people are afraid.

01:22:41.000 How can you sanction your own citizens?

01:22:42.980 Yes, he uses, he sanctions his own citizens.

01:22:45.840 That's pretty public and on his website.

01:22:50.720 For, I don't know, he comes up with the reasons.

01:22:53.800 Working for Russia or whatever.

01:22:55.740 And what happens when you're sanctioned?

01:22:58.980 Your businesses can be closed, your accounts are frozen.

01:23:04.360 The former president is sanctioned, so he says he cannot use his money anymore.

01:23:11.200 So just to go back to something you said earlier that I should have followed up on.

01:23:15.460 When you were working for Zelensky, he told Putin, I think you said it was 2019, that Ukraine would not join NATO.

01:23:24.480 So then you fast forward a couple of years, three years, and he's telling the world that Ukraine does plan to join NATO, which you said is impossible.

01:23:34.480 But what do you think changed his mind?

01:23:37.660 What changed?

01:23:41.640 Well, I definitely know that he wanted to influence the American administration.

01:23:49.100 He really did want.

01:23:50.720 and um influence the american administration in what way yeah i mean he wanted to get something

01:23:57.480 he wanted to get some support friendship you know to get something i remember the interview

01:24:05.380 i remember whom that interview was given when he first said uh why are we not in nato so

01:24:12.680 it was a tv interview and i was preparing messages it has never been in messages

01:24:18.540 we never discussed that actually

01:24:21.300 it was not at the table at all

01:24:23.400 and he was sitting there

01:24:25.540 and the journalist asked him

01:24:27.240 so what would you tell

01:24:29.280 or ask Biden about

01:24:30.580 and he said why are not we in NATO

01:24:33.660 and I started

01:24:35.500 like looking at the messages and

01:24:36.860 he just came up with that

01:24:39.520 and Zelensky

01:24:41.380 is the kind of person if you applaud

01:24:43.160 he's gonna continue

01:24:44.520 and there were a lot of nationalists

01:24:47.100 who applauded who felt oh that's great stuff guy do it and so he saw the applause he saw the

01:24:54.820 reaction and since his ratings were dropping down you know and there was positive feedback

01:25:00.180 he just started pushing through this agenda you know again i read the book uh about biden and

01:25:06.920 there was the description of the meeting in 2021 that was after i left a few months and it happened

01:25:13.440 that Zelensky insisted on this NATO issue from Biden, thinking that that was only Biden who was

01:25:19.440 the obstacle to this. And if Biden said that they will be NATO, he didn't want to listen to any

01:25:25.080 arguments, any facts, nothing. And then when Biden said, look, there is no consensus for this,

01:25:32.000 the guy said, but NATO is outdated organization, and it's gonna fall apart. Germany and France

01:25:38.880 are going to leave NATO now. And as the journalist explains, even those who really liked Zelensky,

01:25:48.640 they were blown up by this. They thought he went too far. But this is, you know, this is who is

01:25:54.240 Zelensky. He's always escalating. He's always demanding. He's always proving himself. You know,

01:26:00.980 I was talking to one guy who used to work under two or three presidents. And he said to me that

01:26:08.020 he's telling everyone that these two guys, Zelensky and Irmak, they are just six-year-olds.

01:26:13.420 He meant because they were six years in power. Now they are seven-year-olds. And I myself was

01:26:18.340 thinking that they behave more as teenagers, but we never had argument that they behave as adults.

01:26:24.020 You see? So I believe that Zelensky, if that journalist who wasn't inside the White House

01:26:31.660 says that Zelensky thought Biden was weak, I believe Zelensky thought Biden is weak and he

01:26:37.540 can pressure and get the NATO thing. Because Zelensky actually doesn't have much understanding

01:26:44.200 of how things are working in his own government and globally.

01:26:49.220 Why are there so many Americans always in Ukraine? Always Americans in Ukraine. American

01:26:53.740 officials are always talking about Ukraine. No offense to Ukraine, but it's a very small country.

01:26:58.100 It's a very big world. But the US government was very focused on Ukraine for a long time.

01:27:02.720 there were always journalists in and out of their think tank people in their u.s military

01:27:07.400 what was that well i think we are lucky that there are journalists there um but it's a small

01:27:14.700 country you say but it's comparatively big well it's a large land mass for sure but so is kazakhstan

01:27:20.300 oh yeah but in europe it's like the second biggest country in europe well if you don't

01:27:25.720 count russia it's the biggest yes and so um i don't i've never understood you should ask americans

01:27:31.500 why they're there. Well, I've never understood it. I mean, I think money laundering was part of it,

01:27:35.320 for sure. I think Americans, I mean, the former president's son was on the board of a

01:27:40.520 Ukrainian energy company. I never, did you know that?

01:27:44.280 You know that I was a co-author of that very famous article about Hunter Biden. And after that,

01:27:50.780 Biden's administration didn't give interview to the New York Times. And I think that was a very

01:27:55.400 infant behavior from the communications people. I was just a freelancer in Ukraine. If for six

01:28:01.080 years after that the biggest democratic president doesn't provide interview to the biggest

01:28:06.100 democratic media because of some freelancer you know having evidence of of you know some

01:28:12.520 connected topics that's really ridiculous i remember that piece with that was with ken

01:28:16.360 vogel i think and yula mendel yep who's you um so for the for whatever it's worth for those who

01:28:23.920 don't remember the piece can you just summarize it tell us what it was about what it said

01:28:27.240 It was long ago, but yeah, Hunter Biden was invited to be on board of energy company that was owned by a big oligarch who is accused in money laundering and, you know, big guy, really, mafia guy.

01:28:44.700 And there was a general prosecutor who opened 11 criminal proceedings against this company, and Hunter Biden figured somewhere that he was somewhere there.

01:29:00.680 But I was talking to a general prosecutor, and he told me that he reopened the cases, but he could not prosecute Hunter Biden because Hunter Biden is an American.

01:29:10.100 And as Ukraine, we just cannot do that.

01:29:12.720 But that was the whole story about, you know, that Hunter Biden was on the board.

01:29:18.640 And obviously, it was not liked by Biden administration very much.

01:29:23.580 And that was a huge scandal.

01:29:25.680 And I did just my job, you know, I talked to the general prosecutor, I, I went to two different people, I asked the questions, I read and translated the law, you know, I verified the information.

01:29:38.580 I mean, Ken was doing a major job, I was helping him, and the New York Times stands for that piece.

01:29:46.720 So why should I be, you know, feeling bad about that?

01:29:51.060 Well, I don't think you should be at all.

01:29:52.900 Yeah.

01:29:53.240 What was your reaction from the Zelensky government to you when that piece came out?

01:29:57.080 Oh, first of all, that was the transition moment. 0.95

01:30:00.400 Yeah, I bet.

01:30:01.540 I'm sure it was.

01:30:02.740 um so he never actually reacted much it served more like a concern for him he didn't understand

01:30:13.100 much what was happening he just asked what was the buzz about his people asked me i said well

01:30:17.960 there was this piece you know i checked it the new york times stands for that that's it so they

01:30:23.960 had just the concern what was what was happening but it was 2019 before biden came to power

01:30:30.480 right to be frank yeah i know that for americans it's a big story about corruption

01:30:37.520 um for me as a ukrainian i still cannot understand what would have happened that

01:30:45.160 biden administration would allow zelensky to continue this war i agree

01:30:49.120 it's just like it's very hard to talk because you don't understand what's happening really

01:30:55.820 when people are being hunted by drones when people wake up to death and destruction

01:31:01.360 when are they being abandoned when they're being searched by law enforcement of their own country

01:31:07.660 when they don't have heat or light or water when they have no almost money and they have no help

01:31:15.600 and they're not hurt and they cannot leave their country it's such a trap and this has been

01:31:21.980 happening for four years of a large scale and for many for 12 years. And the only solution that is

01:31:29.200 being presented today is just to say that Putin is a monster. Well, maybe he is. His army is doing 0.99

01:31:39.080 terrible things. But here is the point. Keeping just offending Putin will reach nothing. And my

01:31:49.660 point is we need to do something as the country. We need to do something to start taking the

01:31:55.080 decisions. We need to start putting people first. And what I see from Zelensky is just, yes, I'm

01:32:03.120 taking care about the people. Yes, people are first. And then always there is bot. And after

01:32:09.600 this bot, there is the whole bunch of misleading information. I don't believe that President

01:32:20.480 Zelensky is really very constructive, let's say so. I believe he has some kind of

01:32:30.000 mental challenges. And so when I'm thinking about his meeting with Biden, 0.95

01:32:35.920 who, as has been proved by Alex Thompson and Jake Topper, 0.97

01:32:40.400 had really already mental problems.

01:32:43.120 I'm thinking, where did this world come to 0.95

01:32:46.740 that there is one person leader with mental challenges

01:32:50.840 and another person with mental challenges

01:32:53.160 actually deciding on the fate of the 40 million nation

01:32:57.700 or 37 million nation?

01:32:59.760 You see?

01:33:01.000 I just don't believe that Ukraine is just being destroyed.

01:33:05.920 I believe that Ukraine is in the world of extinction.

01:33:09.480 We have huge brain drain, enormous problems with the demography. 1.00

01:33:16.620 Do you know that that was the Ukrainian who actually made the program 0.73

01:33:21.620 to send the first person to space, Yuri Gagarin?

01:33:25.820 Now children in Kharkiv region in the fourth grade cannot read.

01:33:31.160 You see, my nation is being deteriorating. 0.67

01:33:34.680 Yes.

01:33:35.920 So there is no but in this case.

01:33:38.760 People either go first or they go first and then but, but, but, but, but a lot of conditions. 0.81

01:33:44.000 Why not to stop this war?

01:33:46.240 And you ask me why all those think tankers and journalists come to Ukraine.

01:33:51.800 I think they come to every country.

01:33:53.300 And they were interested in the relations with Russia.

01:33:56.640 But unfortunately, there is this, I think, absolutely destructive contribution to very unhealthy nationalism that has become a shield for the beneficiary group in the country.

01:34:12.340 Of course. That happens every time. I just know a lot of the policymakers in the United States who promoted this war. And I think that some of them wanted to destroy Ukraine. I think that. I'm sorry.

01:34:26.340 It's very inhuman. The propaganda that we hear, it's very inhuman. It's very cynical. I mentioned to you this stuff about Russia is collapsing. This is like already a Twitter joke. Russia is collapsing for the fourth year in a row. Mark Reuter said a few weeks ago that Russia is in super bad shape. You need like three, four months of war more to win. Where does he come from that?

01:34:51.620 tell this a ukrainian who is dying tell this to the mother who buried her son or a child

01:34:57.780 tell this to a father who lost three children and wife under shelling it's impossible to explain to

01:35:05.980 the people how politicians come up with the conditions to justify this absolutely unjustified

01:35:13.700 war because it's not their country and they don't care it's evil i couldn't agree more

01:35:19.000 many ukrainians believe this already many ukrainians and again they're correct i'm not

01:35:23.540 i'm not justifying putin here okay it's nothing i agree it's just like repeating that he is a 0.58

01:35:28.900 monster it doesn't help the situation no i agree it's like telling us that iran's gonna get a

01:35:35.040 nuclear weapon in three weeks you know telling us that for 25 years at a certain point i don't

01:35:39.980 believe you um so you have asked to end with a message to the russians to vladimir putin russian

01:35:47.740 president um in russian and of course i can't understand russian so uh but uh you've done us i

01:35:55.320 think us the united states a great service by this interview and so i would be happy to turn it over

01:36:00.300 to you to speak directly in russian uh to the russian president thank you of course it's

01:36:07.400 It's actually quite a moving moment.

01:36:10.860 Shall I look there?

01:36:12.040 Look there.

01:36:23.840 Владимир Владимирович,

01:36:26.140 у меня нет вашего жизненного опыта,

01:36:29.940 и я не понимаю, как вы видите этот мир.

01:36:35.200 Но я не представитель НАТО,

01:36:37.120 я не представитель Запада, я не работаю на Зеленского,

01:36:41.360 я не ваш политический оппонент, я вообще вам не угроза.

01:36:47.900 Я украинская женщина из украинского провинциального города Херсона.

01:36:56.080 Вы говорите, что вы человек Бога,

01:36:58.700 But what is happening in Ukraine, is nothing to do with God,

01:37:07.700 is nothing to do with humanity.

01:37:10.700 You say that you want peace.

01:37:13.700 It is the only thing you can do right now.

01:37:18.700 The only thing you can do is the only thing you can do,

01:37:21.700 which is the only thing you can do in Ukraine and Russia.

01:37:25.700 There is no victory in this war, no. 1.00

01:37:29.200 The countries are winning, slavians are killing, slavians are killing. 1.00

01:37:35.700 I'm from Herson. 1.00

01:37:37.700 I think your army tells you only about good things, only about victory.

01:37:46.700 But in Herson there is a drone on people's drone.

01:37:50.700 Maybe you think that it is Western propaganda.

01:37:53.700 Skept�吧.

01:37:55.400 Well, there is a bad truth.

01:37:59.540 In the hospital of my mother worked with a grandma.

01:38:02.360 She walked домой.

01:38:03.760 She spoke by Phillip

01:38:22.200 her wish, which was our family in Wyssey.

01:38:26.260 Hm...

01:38:27.300 ...little drone. 1.00

01:38:29.060 She kernels people come here murder us and sh fell off and live in custody ofischees. 1.00

01:38:36.080 How many they fell in the vaccine 0.72

01:38:37.060 Они падали на снег, ошарашенные этим взрывом, в крови старики.

01:38:44.340 В Херсонии, при фронтовых территориях Украины,

01:38:48.380 остались старики и самые немощные люди, у которых нет денег, чтобы выехать.

01:38:55.120 Ваша армия сама постит видео о том, как она охотится на людей дронами.

01:39:03.120 Но должны же быть какие-то пределы человечности.

01:39:07.060 one of your laws, one of your laws

01:39:10.400 may stop it.

01:39:12.580 You say that you want peace.

01:39:15.440 But if you stop it,

01:39:17.500 then you will not have anything for it.

01:39:19.320 Even no one will say thank you.

01:39:22.420 But people will know that.

01:39:26.140 When the end of the world,

01:39:27.540 I hope, I pray every day,

01:39:29.760 that the end of the world will come.

01:39:30.860 When the end of the world will come,

01:39:32.780 we will have to restore all the human beings.

01:39:35.920 And why would you not start doing this now?

01:39:40.860 You are going to church, you are going to pray.

01:39:45.020 But when it will be explained to God,

01:39:47.540 why your army is hunting on the немощных, 0.70

01:39:51.200 on the old people, on the old people,

01:39:54.040 it is what, it is what, it is what, it is what,

01:39:56.740 it is what, it is what, it is what,

01:39:58.740 how to explain it?

01:40:01.740 If you really want a world,

01:40:03.560 одно ваше слово

01:40:04.880 одно ваше слово

01:40:07.060 и вот это вот

01:40:09.480 дроновое сафари остановится

01:40:11.360 и пускай никто вам не скажет

01:40:13.220 спасибо, но люди

01:40:15.140 ведь будут знать

01:40:16.040 мир это единственное

01:40:19.280 единственное

01:40:20.620 возможное решение

01:40:23.420 сегодня для сильных

01:40:25.400 я не знаю, услышите ли вы меня

01:40:31.460 But you need to stop it. It went too far. It's non-human. It's so cynical. It's so ugly and low. You can stop it.

01:41:01.460 well i appreciate everything you've done and i hope this is widely seen well thank you very

01:41:09.640 much for giving me the platform and for allowing to have this frank conversation i feel like i took

01:41:16.000 a lot of from myself and that my silence could be a contribution to to this war but

01:41:21.760 now i feel like i did something real and good thank you i think you did thanks very much

01:41:27.260 Thank you.

The Tucker Carlson Show - May 11, 2026

Zelensky’s Press Secretary Reveals All： Cocaine, Cover-ups, and the Only Obstacle Preventing Peace

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