This is Gavin Newsom - August 07, 2025


And, These Are Your Questions

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Hoax podcast explores historical redistricting and gerrymandering
Hosted by
Gavin Newsom
Mentioned
Donald Trump Hoax Fudd Around Musica Mexicana Dana Schwartz Lizzie Logan Kathy Hochul Greg Abbott Earn Malley Hamilton Peso George Washington Marilyn Monroe Neil Armstrong Ariel Camacho Ivan Cornejo Augusto Papa Gabby Hochul Tom Freeman JD Vance and 6 more
And, This is Jordan Klepper And, This Is The Texas Democratic Legislative Delegation

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In this episode of American History Hotline, host Bob Crawford discusses the idea of independent redistricting, and why it's time for California and other states to join the fight against Donald Trump's attempt to rig the system.

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00:01:00.000 Have you ever looked at a piece of abstract art or music or poetry and thought,
00:01:09.320 that's just a bunch of pretentious nonsense?
00:01:11.460 That's exactly what two bored Australian soldiers set out to prove during World War II
00:01:15.840 when they tricked the literary world with their intentionally bad poetry,
00:01:19.640 setting off a major scandal.
00:01:21.260 We break down the truth, the lies, and the poetry in between on Hoax,
00:01:24.700 a new podcast hosted by me, Lizzie Logan, and me, Dana Schwartz.
00:01:28.780 Every episode, Hoax explores an audacious fraud or ruse from history.
00:01:33.960 Listen to Hoax on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
00:01:40.360 I'm Bob Crawford, host of American History Hotline, a different type of podcast.
00:01:46.360 You, the listener, ask the questions.
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00:01:51.600 Were JFK and Marilyn Monroe having an affair?
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00:02:07.640 What's up, guys?
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00:02:39.300 This is Gavin Newsom, and these are your questions.
00:02:53.820 You and New York Governor Kathy Hochul have been considering redistricting in your blue states
00:03:05.080 in order to pick up seats in the 2026 midterms because of what's been happening in Texas.
00:03:10.260 Have you spoken to Governor Hochul, and is there a national plan for redistricting
00:03:13.980 that the DNC has been a part of?
00:03:16.300 Well, I appreciate the question.
00:03:17.420 It is the existential question of our time.
00:03:20.980 What do I mean by that?
00:03:21.820 You have Donald Trump who wants to rig the system.
00:03:24.420 He wants to change the game because he can't win the game by playing by the traditional rules,
00:03:28.300 period, full stop.
00:03:29.420 He made a phone call, just like he made a phone call in Georgia after he lost the election,
00:03:34.720 after he tried to destroy our democracy, light it on fire, after January 6th,
00:03:38.560 as he tried to steal the election, and he asked for 12,000 votes from the Secretary of State in Georgia.
00:03:43.280 He is now asking governors like Greg Abbott, who are complicit, he knew Greg Abbott would say,
00:03:50.620 yes, sir, and what more can I do for you, says, I need five seats.
00:03:54.440 In fact, he said on national TV this week, he said he's entitled to five seats because he won
00:04:02.320 the election by such a large margin in Texas that they're now his seats.
00:04:08.080 Make no bones about it.
00:04:09.920 This is an existential moment as it relates to the core principles of our founding fathers.
00:04:16.880 They are trying to change the rules because they cannot win by the traditional rules and the traditional game.
00:04:24.260 Donald Trump knows he will lose the election and de facto his presidency ends in 18 months.
00:04:30.120 Sure, there'll be fire and fury and he'll be playing on true social, but we'll finally have a Speaker Jeffries.
00:04:36.740 We will finally have a system that the founding fathers designed of checks and balances and oversight.
00:04:44.000 And he knows that it's over in less than 18 months.
00:04:48.120 So if we want to allow that to happen, I guess California, New York, Gabby Hochul and other state governors can roll over
00:04:56.580 and act taller than now and say, well, we really believe in independent redistricting.
00:05:01.740 We're against, quote unquote, gerrymandering these districts, which is another fancy way of saying,
00:05:06.060 picking our voters as opposed to voters picking them by changing the maps of who can vote and where they can vote.
00:05:12.980 And in California, we choose to do the opposite.
00:05:16.120 We choose to fight fire with fire.
00:05:17.520 We choose to stand up.
00:05:18.360 We choose to support the principles of our founding fathers.
00:05:21.440 We choose to support you, all of you.
00:05:24.300 So you can have a voice and choice going forward.
00:05:29.180 Donald Trump is trying to deconstruct America.
00:05:32.880 It's a serious moment in all of the distractions.
00:05:38.020 Nothing is more important than this.
00:05:40.640 He's trying to rig the games, how elections are done, mid-census.
00:05:46.780 And so California is going to step up.
00:05:48.800 They're talking about five seats in Texas.
00:05:51.180 We will take those five seats in California.
00:05:53.280 We have an independent redistricting commission.
00:05:55.120 That should be a national model. 0.59
00:05:56.560 I support a national model for independent redistricting.
00:05:59.860 I'm not for gerrymandering in blue states any more than I am for red states.
00:06:03.540 But this is a new moment in American history.
00:06:07.600 The facts are new.
00:06:09.200 He's rigging the game.
00:06:10.440 So we have to fight fire with fire.
00:06:12.100 And that's what we choose to do in California.
00:06:14.040 And I hope other governors do the same.
00:06:16.060 Blue state governors, they're going to support this as well.
00:06:18.600 We just heard J.D. Vance is being sent by Donald Trump into Indiana to get them to rig
00:06:23.000 the Indiana ballot.
00:06:25.540 Same thing in Florida with DeSantis.
00:06:28.940 But California, we punch above our weight.
00:06:31.680 Remember, we're the size of 21 state populations combined.
00:06:34.680 So we can do the five seats and we could take other seats that are very competitive, that
00:06:40.420 are a toss-up.
00:06:41.540 And through the gerrymandering process that is well-established in these red states, we
00:06:46.060 can make those easier districts for a Democratic Party.
00:06:51.440 This should not be the model for the country, but it's the new reality.
00:06:56.420 And so as a consequence, we have to act anew.
00:06:59.000 And we have to, as Lincoln said, disenthrall ourselves with the way things have been done
00:07:05.900 in the past.
00:07:07.240 And so we're asking the legislature, we'll require two-thirds of our legislature to put
00:07:10.960 this on the ballot.
00:07:11.940 We're hoping it gets on the ballot on the November 4th election.
00:07:15.680 We're going to do it in a transparent way by putting the maps on the ballot so the voters
00:07:20.440 will know what they're doing.
00:07:22.480 And we'll do it for a temporary period of time for the 26th, 28th, and 30 ballots, congressional
00:07:31.420 ballots only.
00:07:32.360 We'll keep our independent redistricting commission and we'll revert back to our original form
00:07:36.940 once this threat has passed.
00:07:38.880 And we'll do so only if triggered by the actions in Texas.
00:07:45.140 They drew first blood.
00:07:47.220 We will fight fire with fire.
00:07:49.080 We will preserve and protect our democracy and all that is at stake in this country. 0.97
00:07:56.820 And we're going to punch this bully right back in the mouth and we're going to save our 0.97
00:08:02.460 democracy. 0.99
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00:08:59.500 Unanimous Media on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
00:09:04.160 Have you ever looked at a piece of abstract art or music or poetry and thought, that's
00:09:11.100 just a bunch of pretentious nonsense?
00:09:13.400 Well, that's exactly what two bored Australian soldiers set out to prove during World War II
00:09:18.140 when they pulled off what was either a bold literary hoax or a grand poetic experiment,
00:09:23.420 publishing over a dozen intentionally bad but highly acclaimed works of expressionist poetry
00:09:28.480 under the name Earn Malley in an incident that caused a media firestorm and even a criminal trial.
00:09:35.080 The Earn Malley episode made fools of believers and critics alike and still fascinates poetry
00:09:40.100 lovers to this day.
00:09:41.580 We break down the truth, the lies, and the poetry in between on Hoax, a new podcast hosted by me,
00:09:47.420 Lizzie Logan.
00:09:47.980 And me, Dana Schwartz.
00:09:49.760 Every episode, Hoax explores an audacious fraud or ruse from history, from forged artworks to the original
00:09:56.320 fake news, to try and answer why we believe.
00:09:59.900 Listen to Hoax on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
00:10:06.120 The Stuff You Should Know guys have made their own summer playlists of their must-listen podcasts on movies.
00:10:11.880 It's me, Josh, and I'd like to welcome you to the Stuff You Should Know summer movie playlist.
00:10:16.280 What screams summer more than a nice, darkened, air-conditioned theater and a great movie playing right in front of you.
00:10:22.540 Episodes on James Bond, special effects, stuntmen and women, disaster films, even movies that change filmmaking, and many more.
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00:10:36.920 American history is full of wise people.
00:10:41.080 Well, women said something like, you know, 99.99% of war is diarrhea and 1% is glory. 0.99
00:10:47.740 Those founding fathers were gossipy AF, and they loved to cut each other down.
00:10:53.840 I'm Bob Crawford, host of American History Hotline, the show where you send us your questions about American history, and I find the answers.
00:11:02.220 Including the nuggets of wisdom our history has to offer.
00:11:06.580 Hamilton pauses, and then he says, the greatest man that ever lived was Julius Caesar.
00:11:12.040 And Jefferson writes in his diary, this proves that Hamilton is for a dictator based on corruption.
00:11:18.780 My favorite line was what Neil Armstrong said.
00:11:21.600 It would have been harder to fake it than to do it.
00:11:24.620 Listen to American History Hotline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
00:11:35.880 A foot washed up a shoe with some bones in it.
00:11:39.800 They had no idea who it was.
00:11:41.460 Most everything was burned up pretty good from the fire that not a whole lot was salvageable.
00:11:46.820 These are the coldest of cold cases, but everything is about to change.
00:11:51.680 Every case that is a cold case that has DNA right now in a backlog will be identified in our lifetime.
00:11:58.720 A small lab in Texas is cracking the code on DNA.
00:12:02.800 Using new scientific tools, they're finding clues and evidence so tiny you might just miss it.
00:12:08.940 He never thought he was going to get caught, and I just looked at my computer screen and I was just like, ah, gotcha.
00:12:14.540 On America's Crime Lab, we'll learn about victims and survivors, and you'll meet the team behind the scenes at Othram,
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00:12:34.280 After last week's job report, President Trump said he thought the numbers were wrong.
00:12:43.820 After that, Trump fired the head of the Bureau of Labor and Statistics.
00:12:48.180 How concerned should we be that the president is firing people who report information he doesn't like?
00:12:53.760 And shouldn't the business community be standing up against this?
00:12:57.520 Well, the business community should certainly be standing up, but let's also put this in perspective.
00:13:01.420 The economy is slowing down.
00:13:05.000 The impact of Donald Trump's tariffs, taxes on American consumers is starting to be felt.
00:13:11.380 We're not creating the jobs like we created during the Biden administration.
00:13:15.460 It's Trump's policies that have slowed the growth.
00:13:19.260 And as a consequence, now a lot of folks are concerned that not only is unemployment rising,
00:13:26.380 but we're seeing price pressures, once again inflation, starting to creep back up.
00:13:31.180 And the word stagflation is coming back into the conversation.
00:13:35.580 So that's number one. 0.91
00:13:36.860 And as a consequence of that, Donald Trump now wants to kill the messenger.
00:13:41.400 He wants to fire the person that puts this information together with a team of people
00:13:46.540 in a nonpartisan, apolitical way.
00:13:49.200 And that should scare the hell out of everybody.
00:13:52.600 That's what authoritarian regimes do.
00:13:55.120 It's about truth and trust.
00:13:56.700 The coin of the realm is trust.
00:13:59.080 And the one institution that the world has long looked to for trust is the Bureau of Labor
00:14:07.520 Statistics.
00:14:08.280 It's foundational from a global perspective, but not just from an American perspective.
00:14:15.740 And it is completely consistent.
00:14:17.820 And this is why it's so alarming that Donald Trump is going after what he refers to as the
00:14:23.420 deep state, which are competent bureaucrats. 0.85
00:14:26.220 Politicians come and go, but there are people that maintain through competency and character,
00:14:35.600 the distinction of being professionals that outlived administrations or outlive administrations.
00:14:42.380 And what Donald Trump is doing is politicizing every single position.
00:14:46.520 He's eliminated oversight by eliminating inspector generals.
00:14:51.300 He's eliminated auditing functions so that there's no recourse for actions he takes.
00:14:58.060 He's got immunity printed by the Supreme Court in terms of any actions he possibly could take.
00:15:03.960 These are all, all signs of a deteriorating democracy.
00:15:08.620 But this perhaps is the most alarming of all the actions so far by the Trump administration,
00:15:13.340 because this is about, as Tom Freeman wrote today in the New York Times,
00:15:18.200 the deconstruction of the American system.
00:15:23.000 And he will put in a crony.
00:15:25.020 He'll put in someone that by definition now people can't trust.
00:15:30.220 And that foundation of trust is all we have.
00:15:35.500 So this is code red.
00:15:37.560 This is another reason we all need to step up and share our voice.
00:15:42.300 This is another reason we all need to stay focused and not get distracted by the latest true social or tweet
00:15:50.640 or whatever today's headline is and continue to focus on the essential nature of the architecture
00:15:58.560 that holds up this system.
00:16:01.160 That's why redistricting and all the conversations that are being had around Texas
00:16:05.840 and what states like California can do to counter that are so important
00:16:09.900 and making sure that architecture of truth and trust is maintained.
00:16:15.180 And we call out Donald Trump's tyrannical, well, forgive me, authoritarian tendencies.
00:16:23.720 If you want your questions answered, reach us at thisisgavinnewsome at iheartradio.com
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