This is Gavin Newsom - September 06, 2026


And, This is A Fight To Protect Our Rights With Montgomery Mayor Steven Reed


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00:00:00.000 So I just arrived back here in Montgomery, Alabama. I was here about a year and a half ago with my
00:00:05.660 family, with my kids. I thought it was essential that they come here in the heart of the civil
00:00:09.720 rights movement. So much of what we frankly have taken for granted, perhaps no longer for granted
00:00:16.040 today as it relates to Voting Rights Act, Civil Rights Act, all came here. Selma, Montgomery,
00:00:21.440 1955 to 1965. What happened with the Civil Rights Act, what happened with the Voting Rights Act,
00:00:26.840 and what's happening now in the United States
00:00:28.940 as it relates to the vandalism of those acts
00:00:31.660 and the regression of rights that we're seeing
00:00:34.300 all across this country.
00:00:36.320 This is the center of that history,
00:00:39.820 present, and our future,
00:00:42.200 this moral moment in our country.
00:00:45.160 This is Gavin Newsom.
00:00:48.840 Ladies and gentlemen,
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00:03:27.480 Welcome to Governor of California, Gavin Newsom.
00:03:32.020 Thank you for being here.
00:03:34.680 Thank you.
00:03:36.180 Well, listen, you saved me and them.
00:03:40.200 I thought I needed to give you some time to, you know, cool off with this Alabama humidity.
00:03:42.720 No, it's good. I put my jacket on.
00:03:44.400 I mean, I'm still impressed you got that tie on after that.
00:03:47.280 Well, I'm sweating bullets under here.
00:03:48.780 Don't don't don't don't get me confused.
00:03:52.680 Listen, first, we're just glad to have you here and really, really excited
00:03:57.780 for people who turned out.
00:03:58.920 We know it's the middle of the work day with not a lot of notice.
00:04:02.020 And we're grateful for everybody that's coming here today.
00:04:04.920 We're grateful for the Equal Justice Initiative
00:04:07.920 lending us this space.
00:04:09.000 And I know you're going to be talking with the founder, executive director,
00:04:12.420 ceo brian stevenson uh here shortly um but i just wanted before i get to just a few questions that
00:04:20.340 i have i just want to ask why did you want to come back uh to alabama and why'd you want to
00:04:26.660 come to montgomery uh should be mandatory i mean it it's uh i mean come on you know i
00:04:39.620 We were talking a little bit last night.
00:04:42.600 I see some familiar faces from the conversation we're having last night.
00:04:45.980 I mean, that sound is kind of the sound of screams coming from all across the globe,
00:04:52.200 not just across the country, of people that are just ripping, you know,
00:04:57.820 like how could this, how could we be where we are today?
00:05:02.400 How did this happen?
00:05:05.340 And it's happening on our watch.
00:05:07.060 society becomes how we behave we are our behaviors and we have to own that i was down on the 405
00:05:15.280 freeway in los angeles a few years ago and there's a big billboard any of you been to la
00:05:20.080 on the 405 freeway you'll appreciate um on the freeway there's a big billboard and it says
00:05:26.480 you're not stuck in traffic and you're like what the hell is that it you know in about 45 anyone
00:05:33.880 been on the 405 yeah and in about 40 minutes later you get about a hundred
00:05:39.880 yards closer to the billboard where it says you're not stuck in traffic and in
00:05:45.040 parentheses below it says you are traffic makes you start thinking again
00:05:53.260 society becomes how we behave so this has happened on our watch and I've
00:05:57.900 thought a lot about that what can I do more what can I do better in this moment
00:06:02.920 you know how are we living in a world where they these forces of restoration
00:06:07.220 they want to bring us back as we said last night to a pre-1960s world
00:06:12.080 america now in reverse rights regression across the spectrum of issues most recently on voting
00:06:21.120 rights what can i do more what can i do better and what better place that has done more than any
00:06:29.940 other community in this country than coming back here, the moral center of that movement. And so
00:06:38.840 it's a privilege to come back here, but it's also a necessity so I can find my why. As a father,
00:06:47.880 yeah, as a governor, but just as a person that cares deeply about our faith and future. And so
00:06:55.820 it's wonderful to be here because one thing I do know, the future is in front of us, but it's also
00:07:02.180 most importantly inside of us. It's those decisions that we'll make that will determine that fate and
00:07:07.460 future. Thank you. Here in Montgomery, I hear people every day who are trying to afford their
00:07:14.060 rent, get their kids into good schools, find decent health care, and make sure the next generation has
00:07:21.080 more opportunity than they did i'm sure as a former mayor you heard that as a former lieutenant
00:07:27.480 governor as a current governor you hear the same things in california people may vote differently
00:07:34.920 uh in our states uh but their needs aren't all that different republican or democrat
00:07:41.320 is the real test of leadership simply whether you can deliver and how do you deliver and what do you
00:07:48.040 deliver? Well, it's all about delivering. It's all about results. People are rightfully outraged by
00:07:55.060 the status quo. The bargain no longer works. Gigs up. You know, I mean, let's wake up. It's
00:08:03.740 been a 20, 30, 40, 50 year trend line. That's now a screaming headline. Someone shared with me,
00:08:10.940 we're in the 250th anniversary of our founding fathers, the best of the Roman Republic, the best
00:08:15.200 of greek democracy co-equal branches of government popular sovereignty this notion of the rule of
00:08:21.760 law back to that in the spirit of the greeks there was an historian around 50 a.d two thousand years
00:08:30.640 ago plutarch who warned the athenians that the imbalance between the rich and the poor
00:08:37.700 here's warning the athenians two thousand years ago the imbalance between the rich and the poor
00:08:44.060 is the oldest and most fatal ailment of all republics fast forward today 10 percent of people
00:08:53.920 own two-thirds the wealth 10 percent those same 10 percent own 93 percent of the stock market
00:08:58.840 you know trump thinks that's you know that's the measure of his success or our collective success
00:09:07.780 10% of people, 93% of all the equities.
00:09:11.940 A 30-year-old today, for the first time in American history,
00:09:16.080 a 30-year-old today is doing worse than his or her parents.
00:09:18.640 That's never happened in the history of this country.
00:09:21.560 That is a five-alarm fire.
00:09:24.700 At the same time, we've got a president
00:09:29.580 who tried to light democracy on fire,
00:09:32.120 tried to wreck this country on January 6th.
00:09:35.160 And so this issue around democracy and the issue of around democratizing our economy, to me, are the same issue.
00:09:46.900 And it's foundational at this moment.
00:09:49.900 Capitalism as we know it, and I'm not arguing for nostalgia and I'm not arguing for socialism.
00:09:56.940 But I'm not arguing for capitalism as we know it.
00:09:59.820 It's just not working.
00:10:00.980 I mean, you're living in a state that still has $7.25 minimum wage.
00:10:05.260 I can't even believe that.
00:10:08.700 You're in a state where the governor with a simple pen and paper
00:10:13.080 can provide health care to tens of thousands of people
00:10:17.200 by expanding Medicaid with a simple pen and paper. 0.92
00:10:19.660 But she won't do it.
00:10:21.440 She won't do it.
00:10:22.900 So the lens to which we operate, and I imagine, Mr. Mayor,
00:10:26.320 you do the same thing, it's the question we have to ask
00:10:29.120 and answer every single day. And that is, does it lower costs and does it increase wages?
00:10:35.480 Does it lower costs? Does it increase wages? And that's the way we view legislation. That's the
00:10:41.720 way we review and reflect on our results. Because results are all that matter. You're done with the
00:10:47.920 rhetoric. I imagine if you're out there talking about how much money you've spent on something,
00:10:51.540 people are like, here he goes again. They want to see results. We talked about proof of concept.
00:10:57.060 They want to see the receipts. They want to see the end. And so that to me, it's about a liberalism in the vernacular of, you know, 250th anniversary, a liberalism that builds. Trump, he wrecks, you know, and I said this yesterday.
00:11:13.980 I mean, Trump's an invasive species and nothing else like it. 0.80
00:11:21.100 He is not only trying to wreck this country, he's also trying, and you know this,
00:11:26.860 intimately trying to rig the election in open plain sight.
00:11:32.160 And forgive me for deviating on this.
00:11:34.860 I cannot overstate this.
00:11:38.260 You know, we talked a little bit last night about what we did in California with Proposition 50.
00:11:42.420 This was an initiative in response to what happened in Texas. We decided to fight fire
00:11:46.660 with fire, no more being passive at a moment where we need to be more forceful and clear in
00:11:52.940 terms of the future. So we stepped up, we stepped in, and we rewrote our maps, but we did it with
00:11:57.500 the voters. We didn't do it, as I said, Mr. Mayor, at a special session or at midnight. We didn't do
00:12:03.140 it to you. We did it with you and for you. Very different construct. And we did it deeply mindful
00:12:10.680 of section two deeply mindful of our past our present and our future
00:12:18.100 what i didn't say last night was on election day and this was just a few months ago at dodger
00:12:25.920 stadium down in los angeles donald trump sent the bortac teams down there these are the border
00:12:31.000 patrol tactical units the guys dressed up as if they're out there cosplaying in some foreign
00:12:35.780 excursion with the Apache helicopters. They sent them out the morning of the election
00:12:41.180 to chill the turnout, sending a message to our diverse communities, don't bother to even 0.99
00:12:49.220 show up. You saw yesterday the comments from the Homeland Security Director saying
00:12:55.940 that is exactly what they intend to do this November, to send out the Border Patrol tactical
00:13:02.320 units to send out ICE across the country in and around polling places. He says, we're not
00:13:08.340 ruling it out. I said at the time last November, it was a preview of things to come. I said even
00:13:13.900 earlier when we kicked off our campaign for Prop 50, there were dozens of people, masked men
00:13:19.760 in front of, we are at little Tokyo. This is a sacred site in Southern California
00:13:24.860 called the Democracy Center. It's where we tragically interned the Japanese. It's a sacred 0.99
00:13:30.860 site we kicked off this campaign we called a campaign for democracy and we had about a thousand
00:13:37.580 people faith leaders community leaders elected representatives of all stripes and there were
00:13:43.600 dozens of masked men out front no mark mark cars no markings on their face masks no badges
00:13:53.960 and then a guy who looked literally as if he just came off the set of a burbank movie
00:13:59.760 from the 1930s by the name of greg bovino the former head of ice
00:14:06.260 trying to intimidate people from walking in to the event a poor guy was selling strawberries
00:14:13.920 across the street disappeared collateral damage we said at the time that was a preview of things
00:14:20.100 to come well you saw greg bovino in chicago you saw bovino in dc you saw him in minnesota
00:14:27.060 until even Trump had to fire him
00:14:29.920 after two people were gunned down and murdered.
00:14:33.100 That has happened in the United States of America in 2026.
00:14:38.520 It's happened on our watch.
00:14:40.920 For things to change, we have to change.
00:14:44.060 It's not what happens to us.
00:14:45.520 It's how we respond to what happens to us.
00:14:48.480 We have to be more clear and more forceful at this moment.
00:14:53.340 and we have to recognize we have agency at this moment as well goes back to your opening question
00:15:00.200 talk about agency I mean well what's Montgomery represent right the ability for us to step in
00:15:09.220 and step into that void of leadership to assert ourselves and you're seeing it all across the
00:15:14.640 country and it's giving me hope and optimism you see at the no kings rally you've seen it
00:15:19.180 people showing up in these special elections you see them showing up for elections for school boards
00:15:24.540 in record numbers people haven't given in you haven't given into the cynicism fear and anxiety
00:15:29.580 you wouldn't be here so thank you and so this is the moment what it calls for clarity conviction
00:15:35.500 authenticity a recognition of the crisis that's going on to make opportunities a little bit to
00:15:41.900 deal with the end of the month to make it a little less painful to reconcile an economy that for most
00:15:48.380 of us is two jobs and a go fund me page that's not going to work anymore and so this is fundamentally
00:15:57.900 at the core of the conversation we just had and the tour we just had dire structural
00:16:06.780 institutional change that's required we can no longer afford to play in the margin
00:16:10.860 on the issue of affordability the economy our fate and future
00:16:18.380 We were running behind a little bit because we toured some of these civil rights sites.
00:16:25.540 We went to Dex Avenue, Parsonage.
00:16:29.960 We went by the church.
00:16:30.980 We went by Centennial Hill.
00:16:32.900 And the governor really was interested and wanted to learn more than he already knew about these places and about the people.
00:16:40.700 And I bring that up because all along the way, we saw people with courage.
00:16:46.440 We saw people who did things beyond their offices or their titles.
00:16:52.220 And we're here with great faith leaders in our community across the state,
00:16:55.680 great elected officials, great community organizational leaders, young people,
00:17:00.960 and people who are change agents, everyone in this room.
00:17:04.160 And so we talk a lot about courage.
00:17:07.640 In your first month as mayor, you had to make a decision about same-sex marriage.
00:17:15.760 And it's one that a lot of people said would end your career.
00:17:20.180 And in this day and time, we haven't seen a lot of courage coming out of Washington, D.C.
00:17:26.120 We haven't seen a lot of fight coming out of some of our positions of power in corporate America.
00:17:34.000 Some of our key institutions in academia have all folded like a cheap suit.
00:17:39.840 the question that I have for you is one when you had to make that decision your first month as mayor
00:17:47.020 to legalize same-sex marriage would you do that again and the second part of my question is
00:17:54.780 how do we all find that type of courage may not be that issue but it may be voting rights
00:18:01.680 it may be on immigration it may be on access to health care it may be on affordability
00:18:08.560 how do we find that and why do you think right now it's in seemingly short supply
00:18:14.620 don't get me started you by the way if you're bored you want to daydream a little bit go to my
00:18:21.280 uh patriot site because i'm selling knee pads on my patriot site
00:18:28.020 by the way they sold out just like our corporations have sold out just like our
00:18:33.580 law firms have sold out just like our universities sold out and just like so many in the media
00:18:37.660 have sold out to donald trump by the way and i'm serious about that you can check it out
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00:18:48.440 because i'm so damn frustrated with that point to watch folks power and influence sell out
00:18:57.620 at this time when harvard's selling out and columbia's selling out they tried to get my
00:19:04.280 university you cease system to sell out we didn't we fought back they took 1.2 billion dollars from
00:19:10.560 that university we're fighting come on this is a smash and grab presidency it's a corruption story
00:19:20.560 out in the open it's an extraordinary extraordinary thing now as it relates to the issue of courage
00:19:28.180 what i love is sort of i have the roger banister theory of life some of you may remember who roger
00:19:32.880 Bannister. There he is. He's the guy who broke the four-minute mile. And for all human history,
00:19:40.020 no one had ever broken the four-minute mile because it couldn't be done. It was well
00:19:44.160 established. The human body couldn't run that fast. But he didn't know that. No one told him
00:19:50.000 that. So he broke the four-minute mile. And lo and behold, within a matter of months, dozens of
00:19:56.240 other people broke the four-minute mile. Turns out it was just a limiting belief. So I'm coming in,
00:20:02.220 mr mayor as a young mayor and i didn't know what i didn't know and so i just thought it was wrong
00:20:10.580 to have second class relationships on the basis of who you love basis of god's will
00:20:18.220 you know domestic partnerships are not the same thing as marriage separate is not equal
00:20:25.540 you know and so i i kid you not god is my witness i remember just reading those
00:20:32.900 letters from the birmingham jail it's always the right time to do the right thing and by the way
00:20:38.040 they all preach that to me all my friends in politics when i first became mayor right they
00:20:43.760 always give you advice do the right thing young man stand tall on your principles well that's
00:20:48.620 exactly what i did those same folks called me and said what the hell are you doing they said i mean
00:20:53.780 I'm not kidding. You name them, they did. With one exception, true story. I had just sanctioned
00:21:00.280 4,036 couples from 46 states and six countries in what we call in San Francisco, not the summer of
00:21:06.700 love, but the winter of love. This is weeks after I got elected. This was not on anyone's bingo card.
00:21:12.400 It wasn't even on my agenda. It came from an experience I had listening to George Bush
00:21:17.620 at his State of the Union talk about a constitutional amendment to ban same-sex marriage.
00:21:23.200 and i thought the president united state at a state of the union talking about a constitutional
00:21:27.660 marriage to ban same-sex marriage i was offended by that and i was given an opportunity a choice
00:21:34.940 to do something about it was it a press release i didn't have tweet back then what was i going to
00:21:40.840 do and so i chose that path true story met him once john lewis true story when i said the democratic
00:21:48.580 Party turned their back, legendarily turned their back on me. I was going to Boston. I was going to
00:21:53.840 speak at the convention. I got a call from the head of the convention saying, you don't have to
00:21:57.520 come to Boston this year. It's all good. All those young mayors were going to talk, you know,
00:22:02.560 five minutes each. Like, you don't have to show up. This is, you know, and it was literally that
00:22:08.420 bad. True story. Nancy Pelosi is hosting a little event and introducing me around with all her
00:22:14.960 colleagues true story one person came up to me i'll get emotional about it it's john lewis
00:22:22.800 came right up to me and he grabs nancy said i wanted to meet this young man
00:22:28.160 and literally gave me a hug and said keep doing what you're doing everyone turned their back
00:22:34.720 and he came up to me a time democratic parties trust me was vehemently opposed with what i was
00:22:41.860 doing that moment for me oh god that gets back to the why standing up for ideals striking out
00:22:51.280 against injustice it was a moment that solidified that and and and and took courage for him to
00:22:59.180 associate with that issue and me at the time and so that's the spirit man we got to bring to all
00:23:06.640 these fights we're given a moment in time we come and go i gotta sell by date i'm like a milk cart
00:23:12.420 and i get it you know i'm the 40th got them 39 others there'll be 50 more we're given a moment
00:23:18.540 in time don't dream of regretting it's a rocking chair test man courage your convictions you're
00:23:24.760 not going to be right all the time learn from your mistakes learn from but also don't follow
00:23:30.300 others as well your expression's unique and this notion of authenticity i think is also has to be
00:23:35.340 brought in to that fundamental question about courage as well so i just look i don't know fate
00:23:40.920 i don't know what it has in store for us but you're going to be judged and you're going to
00:23:46.020 ultimately judge yourself to the extent you contributed to life our city our states our
00:23:50.680 nation the world we're trying to build and that's the mindset i think we all have to bring to our
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00:25:27.140 I can wait four hours for the next bus or this random dude is offering me a ride on his motorcycle.
00:25:32.860 I chose option B.
00:25:34.140 I'm Julie Pinheiro, and I travel by myself because it's a rare space where I can say yes without asking anyone else first.
00:25:42.460 I'm on a mission to reclaim the word Solita, trading the pity for possibility.
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00:27:22.200 Our town is small taters by most standards, right?
00:27:25.360 But to the people who grew up here, it's everything.
00:27:27.780 What happens when a quiet Tennessee town becomes the front line in a battle over the future of America?
00:27:34.580 Developers with right-wing ties have purchased hundreds of acres of land in the area.
00:27:39.020 The first thing you see when it pops up is pioneers in Appalachia.
00:27:43.180 But they weren't just planting houses.
00:27:45.280 We need cities on a shining hill that exemplify and embody the Christian way of life. 0.89
00:27:51.220 Stop right there. Is that normal? 1.00
00:27:53.020 A podcast about what happens when a small town becomes the site of a social experiment. 0.99
00:27:59.000 God need men to rule. Great. 0.99
00:28:00.540 And decides to fight back.
00:28:02.460 Do not use my hard work to sell your bull.
00:28:06.360 They're not just opposing what's being planned for here.
00:28:10.840 Our hometown is not a test tube.
00:28:12.860 They feel like they're standing in opposition to an entire administration. 1.00
00:28:16.480 Guess you didn't move in on a bunch of dumb hillbillies now, did you? 0.95
00:28:19.120 Listen to Our Town on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. 0.90
00:28:27.560 I'm going to kind of get off script a little bit and just kind of ask you just some quick questions.
00:28:34.460 And then we're going to wrap up so we can get over to ASU and talk to some young leaders over there at a campus full of history of young leaders and activism.
00:28:47.220 and academic achievement.
00:28:49.560 So I'm going to get right to it.
00:28:51.160 If California could borrow one thing from Montgomery,
00:28:54.440 I'm going to say San Francisco could borrow one thing from Montgomery,
00:28:58.000 what would it be?
00:28:59.460 And then the second part of that is, got to be honest here,
00:29:03.580 barbecue or tacos.
00:29:08.000 That's like asking me Giants, Dodgers or something.
00:29:11.080 Or asking me that in L.A.
00:29:12.860 It's the kind of equivalent of doing that.
00:29:17.220 I'll ask the easy one first, which is, what do you borrow from Montgomery?
00:29:21.220 Not the taco barbecue.
00:29:23.880 Look, I think in many ways I answered that in the opening, you know, and the why I'm here.
00:29:29.540 I mean, if we can, I mean, imagine the history being imbued.
00:29:36.580 I mean, living history.
00:29:39.780 It's where it all happened.
00:29:41.840 You know, I love to say about my state, the future happens there first,
00:29:45.700 where America's coming attraction,
00:29:47.700 it's not necessarily accurate.
00:29:51.240 It's not.
00:29:52.680 I mean, the history here, 55, 65, 64, 65, 67,
00:29:57.380 we talked about interracial marriage last night.
00:30:00.520 I still can't believe I was born in a year
00:30:02.780 where blacks couldn't marry whites in 16 states. 0.97
00:30:05.720 That happened in my lifetime.
00:30:07.100 I don't feel that old.
00:30:08.980 And we've seen the expansion of rights my entire life.
00:30:11.120 As I say now, it's this dialectic,
00:30:14.140 this rights regression.
00:30:15.700 LGBTQ rights, obviously civil rights, women's rights.
00:30:21.660 We talk about voting rights, what just happened to section two.
00:30:25.520 So I think imbuing that history, having that history,
00:30:30.080 you know, we were just there at the Capitol
00:30:32.420 and you mentioned it was built in 1849.
00:30:35.620 I was like, you know, that history, that connection,
00:30:41.580 King's Church, the proximity, the church,
00:30:45.700 And that monument to the Confederacy in so many respects, to have that?
00:30:51.140 I mean, what you have to share to the world, not just to my state, to the country?
00:30:58.420 Oh, come on.
00:30:59.640 How blessed, blessed you are.
00:31:05.880 You really are.
00:31:07.320 And blessed to have this guy.
00:31:10.020 Which I said it to him.
00:31:15.700 A lot of people in politics that get it, but don't get anything done.
00:31:20.700 He gets it and gets it done.
00:31:23.280 And that's the difference.
00:31:24.620 Dreamer versus a doer.
00:31:28.020 And that's what I admire about him.
00:31:30.940 And I'm, again, honored to be with you on this.
00:31:34.120 But I'm sorry.
00:31:35.580 Come on, I'm from California, Nature Nurture Tacos.
00:31:40.820 Fair, fair.
00:31:43.020 We won't hate on you on that.
00:31:44.960 Not at all.
00:31:47.460 You wrote a book, a memoir.
00:31:51.340 What do you want people to take away from your story?
00:31:56.100 And what from that story would your kids say that they learned about your habits?
00:32:04.460 Even though that may be embarrassing to you, but as someone who has written a memoir,
00:32:10.240 i was not expecting it i mean literally it was a divine blessing uh for someone to ask me to think
00:32:15.520 that it was worthy for me to write what compelled you to do it and and what do you hope people take
00:32:21.280 away from it and what do you want your kids to take away from you as a dad and maybe some things
00:32:26.420 that are in the memoir maybe just some things from their experiences with you on the personal side
00:32:29.820 well the memoir is called young man in a hurry and it was never supposed to be a memoir
00:32:34.700 when i first became governor penguin press came to me and they said would you
00:32:39.340 write a book about your four years as governor. Little did we know we were about to enter COVID
00:32:44.200 and all the social unrest after George Floyd and all the challenges that we'd face in California,
00:32:49.660 the most blessed and cursed state in America, wildfires, floods, and droughts. And so I submitted
00:32:56.140 the book. I was really proud of it. The head of Penguin and got off on Zoom, prepared,
00:33:03.420 spitting my stomach spent four years working on this and i could tell something was wrong
00:33:10.820 and i before she said a word i cut her off i said i get it there's a chapter in there about
00:33:18.940 me and my childhood and my parent i'm happy to take that out and she stopped me she says
00:33:25.760 that's the only chapter i like and i'm like oh what is that i like what are you talking about
00:33:32.260 She goes, I didn't know.
00:33:34.160 I didn't know you couldn't read.
00:33:36.920 I didn't know you don't read speeches.
00:33:40.860 I didn't know your mom literally raised you with foster kids
00:33:46.400 and raised you on her own, was a teenager,
00:33:49.060 and she's pregnant with you and divorced just two years later. 0.98
00:33:52.480 I didn't know she worked two, three jobs all her life. 0.99
00:33:55.260 I didn't know.
00:33:55.820 She said, I thought I knew you.
00:33:58.160 I have this image of you, some privileged kid, you know.
00:34:02.260 and and so it became a memoir and it became it's called young man in a hurry which is was me
00:34:09.380 a memoir of discovery i learned about my parents my mom passed away 20 years ago
00:34:16.380 breast cancer my father survived just to see his son elected governor and passed away a few years
00:34:23.760 later a few days later which is just to me just so extraordinary just the power of will
00:34:30.720 just to be there and so I wrote it but I will say if there's one thing about that memoir and
00:34:37.500 I don't want to overburden you with it I put a mask on when I was younger
00:34:42.940 and my face started to grow into it I wasn't being authentic I was trying to show up as someone I
00:34:50.820 wasn't because I felt that I needed to and have the confidence felt you know I still have deep
00:34:59.200 anxiety i you know i don't know how people are feeling and you know i'm pretty severe dyslexia
00:35:05.160 and you tend to feel rooms you can feel that anxiety you can see who's not looking up who is
00:35:10.880 responding who's not and it you know so that and and so that mass went on and man i was walking
00:35:18.420 down a path i was with my critics and i made a lot of mistakes and i write about all of those
00:35:26.000 mistakes i mean i joke with all my friends that want to take me out politically you don't have
00:35:32.080 to do much research just buy my book it's all literally all out there and it's been an amazing
00:35:39.240 experience just just literally mayor i like visit just let it go let it go and just open up but what
00:35:50.960 it is and i'll end on this it is a love letter to single moms it is a love letter to my mom
00:35:58.320 don't explain don't complain all that grit hard work showing up every single day and that is oh
00:36:06.140 that's so rep i god bless single moms
00:36:10.140 i've gotten the notes and the text so they're telling me i gotta wrap uh to get us over here
00:36:23.060 and keep you on schedule um i'll get you back on schedule um but i do want to close with this and
00:36:29.340 i'm going to read this question because i want to make sure that the audience hears it those that
00:36:33.040 are here personally uh and those that may see it later on um montgomery has been through a lot
00:36:39.860 It's been through a lot because of people in this room, our forefathers and our foremothers.
00:36:45.500 And we've been through tough times.
00:36:47.300 We've come out the other side.
00:36:49.640 We have had the faith and the fortitude to truly see it through some very, very difficult moments.
00:36:58.020 And many of us believe that we're in a difficult moment right now.
00:37:02.140 and we have come through those moments not just because we were optimistic but because we kept
00:37:09.620 showing up and so i don't want to know really what keeps you up at night i want to know what
00:37:14.440 you've seen in the last year that told you that this still holds true even in this moment
00:37:19.920 about what i've seen in the last hour
00:37:23.000 we were just walking with a freedom rider and i said i couldn't help you we were walking down i
00:37:30.440 said tell me i can i didn't know how you even had to ask the question and she knew exactly where i
00:37:36.080 going she goes no i can't believe what's going on and i said well what advice do you give and she
00:37:43.120 goes you know it's so different you know we didn't have instagram she said we didn't have all that
00:37:48.120 we didn't have section two we didn't have section five but we had each other in this notion i mean
00:37:55.900 you know what what they but many of you had to endure and suffer compared to where we are today
00:38:03.320 i mean you know this is not complicated as long as we show up for each other and and and as i said
00:38:14.140 earlier we are you know we're winning we are winning trump knows that that's why he tries
00:38:22.040 to rig the election that's why he's going after vote by mail that's why he's making it harder
00:38:26.440 for you to vote we are winning they've they've they're not even trying to win the argument
00:38:32.080 anymore they're not know that and now it's about one word margin
00:38:39.440 it's about margin it's about showing up it it is about going out and making the case
00:38:49.660 to everybody. This is it. This is it. I really believe that. And I've been accused of being
00:38:57.580 hyperbolic for over a year. But you know what? My state was the first state to have 4,000 National
00:39:02.660 Guard federalized, sent out to the second largest city in the United States, Los Angeles. We had
00:39:06.720 700 active duty Marines, not sent overseas, sent to the second largest city in the United States 0.69
00:39:11.940 of America to terrorize our diverse communities. That happened in California first. We saw those 0.90
00:39:18.320 masked man buffino happened in california first we've been living this i'm involved in over 100
00:39:23.500 lawsuits with the trump administration this guy is ruthless he is coming after us he is going to
00:39:29.120 try to wreck this country he's going to try to steal this election the only thing to stop it
00:39:33.600 can't be the it's not the courts not those men in robes the supreme court the only thing that
00:39:39.500 could save us is us you all of us and there's so much evidence that you're doing that he has
00:39:46.500 woken up our immune system but just don't give i know it's hard i know it's hard oh my god we go
00:39:53.960 we could talk about covid everything we've been through the last seven eight years no great i mean
00:39:58.360 we don't talk about that because it's hard all that stacking of stress but we can't run in the
00:40:04.360 vernacular of banister the 90-yard dash we can't run the 90-yard dash we're so close
00:40:11.320 and it's all on the line not just drawing lines and new maps it's all on the line this november
00:40:19.140 don't look the guy or gal on the white horse to come save the day in 20 don't focus on that
00:40:24.720 it's all about the midterm election it is all about speaker jeffers
00:40:31.760 thank you governor i want to thank you um for taking time to come to our city
00:40:40.880 to learn a little bit more of what you already knew,
00:40:45.820 to see it up close and personal.
00:40:48.320 I want to thank all of you for taking time out of your busy work day
00:40:52.260 to come and listen to this conversation.
00:40:57.520 All of our leaders, all of our elected officials,
00:41:00.540 all of our faith leaders, all of our business leaders
00:41:04.040 and grassroots activists, all of you
00:41:07.560 who continue to do the work for us.
00:41:10.880 I want to just say that it's truly been an honor to host the governor here.
00:41:17.780 He's had some great conversations, some great ideas about ways that we can connect, that
00:41:23.520 we can build collaboration around housing, around equality, around policies and things
00:41:30.820 that really move all of our communities forward.
00:41:35.340 And I can tell you this, and I'm not sure if I said this, but one of my reasons for
00:41:39.680 inviting him here was because across mayors in California you talked about people often think
00:41:45.600 about the cities and the coast and they don't think about the farmland they don't think about
00:41:49.040 the inland empire and they don't think about all these places where hard work is being done
00:41:54.560 those mayors sing his praises and many if not most of them are not registered democrats
00:42:00.320 those are the mayors who told me well over a year and a half ago about this leadership and about
00:42:09.560 what he means to them and to Californians and I think sometimes we can't get caught in a snapshot
00:42:15.940 or an image and it's not until you talk to people on the ground that you learn where the respect is
00:42:22.320 and where the appreciation for the courage that you've shown for the commitment that you've shown
00:42:26.580 on health care on criminal justice reform on things that impact people daily the minimum wage
00:42:33.820 things that impact people daily and so um i'm just grateful that that you're here and i'm grateful
00:42:40.140 for all of you uh who have come out i wish we could talk a little bit longer but my phone is
00:42:45.340 vibrating now and my was in my hand now it's in my chest uh to get over here to asu i know what's
00:42:50.340 being texted to me and so we want to make sure that he gets an opportunity to talk to our current
00:42:55.380 and future leaders uh who are brimming uh with ideas and innovation uh from ihbc one that we're
00:43:02.000 proud to have here right in our city and we're proud that you're going to be stopping there and
00:43:05.980 we certainly wish you safe travels and we look forward to you coming back to visit us real soon
00:43:10.040 all right thank you so much
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00:44:56.220 Our hometown is not a test tube.
00:45:00.040 90 miles northeast of Nashville, a battle for the future of America plays out in one small town.
00:45:06.080 Developers with right-wing ties have purchased hundreds of acres of land.
00:45:09.760 We need cities on a shining hill.
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