This is Gavin Newsom - And, This Is How To Solve The Climate Crisis With President Clinton

00:00:00.600 This is Gavin Newsom.

00:00:04.660 Please welcome to the stage Governor Gavin Newsom and President Bill Clinton.

00:00:17.760 Morning, everybody. Morning. Morning.

00:00:22.600 Thank you.

00:00:24.180 All right.

00:00:27.180 20 years.

00:00:30.000 I saw that video. I was here, I think, for 19 of, I mean, I've got more Clinton-isms.

00:00:36.420 I'm going to enjoy this. This is going to be so funny.

00:00:39.960 The how business. I like that.

00:00:42.900 I met Gavin Newsom when he was mayor of San Francisco.

00:00:47.680 And he looked like he was 12 years old.

00:00:54.800 And I said, God, I hate this guy. He's so tall.

00:00:57.700 He's taller than I am, younger than I am, better looking than I am.

00:01:02.560 There we go.

00:01:03.960 But what really matters is he's a really good person.

00:01:09.460 I appreciate it.

00:01:10.080 And an extraordinarily gifted public service.

00:01:13.280 And he represents, along with his family.

00:01:19.080 Jennifer, where are you?

00:01:20.780 Stand up.

00:01:21.500 There, ma'am.

00:01:22.400 Better ask.

00:01:22.720 This is who.

00:01:24.880 Our wife.

00:01:25.940 Thank you.

00:01:27.920 Thank you.

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00:03:48.920 The murder of an 18-year-old girl in Graves County, Kentucky, went unsolved for years.

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00:04:29.580 So, I'm going to start with something that is easy, but I think it's important because

00:04:39.540 it's amazing that a lot of people don't know anything about California.

00:04:49.240 Except a lot of the stuff that's said.

00:04:52.800 And I love it.

00:04:56.760 I went to California.

00:04:57.940 I had more problems than you can imagine when I was elected president.

00:05:00.860 I went there 29 times in my first term.

00:05:04.800 But they were good to me.

00:05:10.500 And what I found was it was hundreds and hundreds of small towns in the cities and certainly beyond.

00:05:23.140 I've been to the town in America that has the largest percentage of Japanese Americans.

00:05:31.440 I went to a town campaigning for Hillary where the mayor, this little town in Northern California,

00:05:40.680 the mayor was the son of the local judge in Fayetteville, Arkansas,

00:05:46.880 when Hillary and I got married and went there to teach in the law school. 1.00

00:05:51.640 And the old judge was a crusty old guy who let Hillary bring students into the legal aid program for the first time. 0.96

00:06:00.640 And I'm standing in Northern California with the mayor.

00:06:03.860 There's somebody there from everywhere.

00:06:05.620 It's a fascinating place.

00:06:08.300 So, tell us, and I think it's now the fourth biggest economy in the world.

00:06:13.820 That's right.

00:06:14.520 Eat your heart out.

00:06:15.800 UK, Germany.

00:06:17.380 So, tell us what you think we should know about what's going right in California.

00:06:28.840 I appreciate the context.

00:06:30.980 Look, California is America, but only more so.

00:06:37.180 We're the most, in the spirit of your introductory remarks, just to set the scene,

00:06:44.440 it's the size of 21 state populations combined.

00:06:46.400 It's the most diverse state in the world's most diverse democracy.

00:06:50.000 27% of my state is foreign-born.

00:06:54.440 We practice pluralism.

00:06:56.620 It's a point of pride.

00:06:58.180 I say that because it needs to be said, and you reinforce it here today.

00:07:02.800 It's in that diversity that we have achieved so much strength.

00:07:08.000 We dominate in every critical industry.

00:07:10.680 Yes, we're the fourth largest economy in the world, $4.1 trillion a year,

00:07:14.660 but we dominate with more engineers, more scientists, more Nobel laureates, more venture capital,

00:07:20.520 the finest system of higher education, public higher education in the world,

00:07:24.360 and business startups, number one in two-way trade, number one in direct foreign investment,

00:07:28.440 in every category, the dominant manufacturing state, the dominant farming state,

00:07:33.660 the dominant state as it relates to hunting jobs.

00:07:36.560 You didn't know that.

00:07:38.020 Jobs related.

00:07:39.440 In every category, we have no peers.

00:07:42.060 We talk about the future.

00:07:43.200 You're talking about what's next.

00:07:45.840 California is in the future business.

00:07:47.780 But we're also in the spirit of the video in the how business.

00:07:52.420 And so it's not about what and why.

00:07:56.340 And this notion of the future is what animates California.

00:08:01.320 And the future, as you said, final words you said, the word manifest.

00:08:04.780 The future is not something to experience.

00:08:06.540 It's something to manifest.

00:08:08.160 It's decisions, not conditions that determine our fate and future.

00:08:11.200 And I think that mindset is the thing that defines the game played in California

00:08:16.940 versus the game played in many other parts of the country.

00:08:20.300 How have you used that to deal with the fires and the aftermath of it?

00:08:32.440 It depends which fire you're referring to.

00:08:36.080 You know, I was thinking of you coming 29 times.

00:08:40.400 I'm just glad Trump has only come one time.

00:08:43.500 And it's a hell of a time for us.

00:08:47.240 Look, as it relates to fires, you know, we talk about the future happens in California first,

00:08:52.040 where America's coming to traction.

00:08:53.380 Well, that definitely relates to what's going on around us.

00:08:57.100 As it relates to the hot's getting hotter, the dry's getting drier, the wet's getting wetter.

00:09:01.100 This notion that, you know, we're dealing with extreme heat, extreme weather.

00:09:05.960 And as a consequence, the challenges that were presented as it relates to large-scale wildfires.

00:09:11.240 And California had one of its most devastating wildfires earlier this year in the middle of winter.

00:09:18.440 And I just want to remind people, in the middle of winter in Los Angeles,

00:09:23.380 in the most resourced region in the United States of America,

00:09:27.960 more firefighters per capita in L.A. County than any other part of the globe,

00:09:32.120 in a state that has the largest civilian fleet of aircraft for fire suppression anywhere in the world,

00:09:42.520 in a state where I've doubled the budget in terms of the state fire investments

00:09:46.760 and 10x the investments in forest management and vegetation management,

00:09:50.820 and yet still we lost 16,000 structures, homes and buildings,

00:09:56.100 because we had a fire that was attached to 100-mile-an-hour winds

00:09:59.860 in the middle of winter in Southern California.

00:10:04.220 And so I take that issue very seriously.

00:10:07.760 Places, lifestyles, traditions being wiped off the map.

00:10:12.700 If you don't believe in science, you've got to believe your own eyes.

00:10:16.400 And this notion, you talk about small towns in California,

00:10:19.920 Grizzly Flats, Greenville, Paradise, California.

00:10:23.380 It's been around 150 years, disappearing.

00:10:28.220 And so I'm here with you, also here at the U.N. Climate Week,

00:10:33.480 reasserting California's leadership in this space.

00:10:36.820 In the absence of national leadership,

00:10:39.640 California once again is reasserting itself on low-carbon green growth,

00:10:44.440 reasserting itself in the work we're doing to address the challenges of climate change.

00:10:49.540 And fire is a huge part of it.

00:10:51.120 And if I may just extend, forgive the extended point,

00:10:56.040 we also dominated innovation in this space.

00:10:58.940 And it didn't feel that way in the aftermath of those fires.

00:11:01.380 You're like, what the hell?

00:11:02.140 How did you not prevent these?

00:11:04.060 We had 104 engines that we had prepositioned down there from the state two days in advance.

00:11:08.340 I told you about the resources, next level.

00:11:10.140 Well, the world, literally, we have people from around the globe that come to California

00:11:16.660 to learn about the latest technology, the latest innovation.

00:11:19.820 1,200 AI cameras.

00:11:21.960 We were the first to demonstrate the benefits of those.

00:11:25.740 A fire system, partnerships with Lockheed, the Pentagon,

00:11:28.580 next level weather strategies and fusion centers and technology that we've integrated.

00:11:33.680 All of those things, drone technology, all of that.

00:11:38.100 And yet still, we face the realities of these wildfires.

00:11:44.520 And it's not just in California.

00:11:45.860 It's all over the Western United States, for that matter, across the globe.

00:11:49.240 And I think the issue that is so under-resourced in terms of mindshare is the insurance issue.

00:11:54.600 And I think this issue, I really believe this, from a global perspective,

00:12:02.320 may be one of the most pressing global issues as it relates to the issues of climate change.

00:12:08.300 The inability to purchase a home, let alone to get a mortgage on a home,

00:12:13.700 to develop a home with an insurance market that simply is no longer viable

00:12:18.600 because people are unwilling to take the risk

00:12:21.580 and make the kind of capital outlays and investments to address that issue.

00:12:26.500 I think this issue requires leadership at the national level.

00:12:30.040 It is under-resourced, under-focused.

00:12:32.300 It's a challenge for me.

00:12:33.440 It's a challenge for Ron DeSantis in Florida, for governors in most states.

00:12:39.260 But it's not, I think, top of mind, and we need to be more focused on it.

00:12:43.260 Thank you.

00:12:46.260 The –

00:12:47.260 Well, what do you think should be done about it?

00:12:55.680 I mean, I'm not trying to get you into a different job right now, but –

00:13:00.240 I don't want – people didn't come here to talk about insurance.

00:13:03.100 But I –

00:13:04.180 You know, we just put out our sustainable insurance strategy.

00:13:08.580 We just had four of our admitted market come back in in the last –

00:13:13.040 in fact, two days ago, we had our fourth come back in.

00:13:15.360 We had a lot of folks who were leaving the market, simply said we can't insure folks here.

00:13:18.900 It's too expensive, and the losses are too significant.

00:13:22.400 We had to address the reinsurance market.

00:13:24.440 We had to address the capital needs of these companies.

00:13:28.020 And we also had to address the fact that California – and you wouldn't know this –

00:13:32.700 is among the most affordable insurance markets in the country

00:13:36.100 because the voters initiated a framework on regulation that denied significant rate increases.

00:13:45.320 As a consequence of that, people started exiting the market.

00:13:49.120 And the reforms we've just put into place allow for more rapid rate increases.

00:13:55.100 And that's the pressure point now.

00:13:58.140 As we move from about average to below average in our rates, we're now starting to see those tick up.

00:14:04.820 But the benefit of that now, part of the strategy, is a requirement to come into California market

00:14:11.600 and also to insure in what we refer to as the WUI, which is the Wildland Urban Interface,

00:14:17.340 and to cover 85 percent of the WUI in return for those rate increases.

00:14:23.340 That is not something that on the macro is the solution from the U.S. prism or the global perspective,

00:14:30.000 but at the state level is advancing our reforms.

00:14:35.700 But this insurance issue is favoring – placing every state in one form or another.

00:14:40.780 Yeah, the globe.

00:14:41.800 I mean, it's just – it's not sustainable.

00:14:44.080 And again, it should unite everybody.

00:14:45.420 I mean, there's no Republican, no Democratic thermometer.

00:14:49.140 I heard – and forgive me, I didn't come up here to take cheap shots,

00:14:54.380 but it's pretty remarkable what was said by the current president yesterday at the U.N. about climate.

00:15:01.820 What the hell is that?

00:15:08.140 It just – it can't be normalized.

00:15:10.660 It can't be normalized.

00:15:12.520 This notion that it's a hoax.

00:15:15.420 I mean, the – what this guy has done – look, I live in a state, and, Mr. President, you'll appreciate this,

00:15:20.140 you know, former presidents, you know well.

00:15:23.780 For me, one of them was a governor.

00:15:26.020 Ronald Reagan established the modern environmental movement in 1967,

00:15:29.760 year of my birth with the California Air Resources Board.

00:15:32.460 And he did so because of the smog in Los Angeles.

00:15:35.140 It was a business-driven decision.

00:15:37.140 The business community said,

00:15:38.060 we simply can't do business in L.A., Mr. Governor.

00:15:41.380 And he established the Air Resources Board.

00:15:43.660 Three years later, it was Richard Nixon that codified that under the Clean Air Act

00:15:48.880 and gave California a waiver that allowed us to pursue aggressive environmental policy.

00:15:54.620 And that's why California has dominated the national debate in this space.

00:15:59.820 What this president has done in eight months is jaw-dropping.

00:16:06.000 What he has done to the EPA, what he's done to California's leadership,

00:16:11.520 he's neutralized, he's eliminated under that Clean Air Act our authority to regulate tailpipe emissions.

00:16:18.200 What he continues to do in terms of trying to stop California's global leadership

00:16:24.820 as it relates to our partnerships around not only the country at a subnational level,

00:16:31.460 but around the globe in relationship to our cap-and-trade program,

00:16:36.860 in relationship to our other partnerships that we've established

00:16:40.460 as it relates to carbon capture and direct air capture and the technology in this space,

00:16:45.540 cannot be understated.

00:16:47.560 And so we are, you know, we're the last, we're, well, a game in town right now

00:16:52.720 as it relates to large-scale environmental leadership.

00:16:55.900 And I'll just close on this.

00:16:57.660 We have six times more green collar jobs, green tech jobs, than we do fossil fuel jobs.

00:17:02.760 We're on the other side of the debate.

00:17:04.680 And I think this is a point that should be emphasized.

00:17:08.180 You talk about California more than I emphasize it.

00:17:11.580 67% of our electricity grid is completely green and clean.

00:17:15.840 And we have run, which is not bad, but get this, nine out of 10 days in 2025,

00:17:25.220 we've run the fourth largest economy in the world at 100% clean green energy.

00:17:30.480 100%.

00:17:31.080 As of last Friday, 217 out of 243 days, 100% clean energy.

00:17:39.500 We're proving the paradigm, you know, the genius of and versus the tyranny of or.

00:17:45.020 And I think, you know, there's power in emulation, successless lead clues.

00:17:50.780 And I think California's been an interesting and a successful model in this space.

00:17:55.180 And we're just trying to navigate this new space as it relates to the macro headwinds

00:17:59.620 coming from 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

00:18:02.000 Tell our audience here a little more about what the components of your clean energy are.

00:18:16.120 Well, I think the thing that we've dominated in is the electricity architecture.

00:18:23.120 And we've dominated in clean cars.

00:18:26.200 I signed the first executive order in the United States to require alternative fuel vehicles by 2035.

00:18:32.220 That was just taken away by Congress, the supine Congress and the President.

00:18:39.380 But we created the market.

00:18:41.920 There is no Elon Musk.

00:18:43.100 There's no Tesla without California's regulatory framework.

00:18:47.060 Period.

00:18:47.360 Full stop.

00:18:47.920 It wouldn't exist.

00:18:48.720 It was because of the regulations, because of those signals and the subsidies,

00:18:57.080 over $3.2 billion direct subsidies that Tesla received, just in my state alone, that built this market.

00:19:09.120 Over a quarter of all new car purchases in California are alternative fuel vehicles.

00:19:13.140 What Trump has just done, and with respect to some of the automobile manufacturers, is they've ceded this to China.

00:19:20.360 They've ceded our competitiveness to China.

00:19:23.660 And it's not just the electric vehicles.

00:19:25.720 It's the tech stack that's part of these electric vehicles.

00:19:29.260 It's the mobility space more broadly defined.

00:19:33.280 It is an act of vandalism on an economic basis, not just an environmental basis, that is deeply alarming.

00:19:40.420 And I hope people wake up to how China is just flooding the zone globally in this space. 1.00

00:19:47.340 And we have doubled down on stupid. 0.99

00:19:49.980 We're trying to recreate the 19th century. 1.00

00:19:52.440 We really have.

00:19:53.520 You talk about what's next.

00:19:55.340 It's not going to be American automobile manufacturers.

00:20:00.000 Bill Ford may run contrary to that.

00:20:03.980 He seems to get it deeply.

00:20:05.540 I give him tremendous credit.

00:20:08.340 Markable, iconic brand.

00:20:10.420 But I cannot impress upon you more how proud I am.

00:20:13.140 Sixty headquartered manufacturer of EV companies in the state of California.

00:20:16.960 Supply chain was one of our biggest exports five years ago.

00:20:20.040 And it's all about innovation.

00:20:21.980 It's all about that entrepreneurial spirit. 0.99

00:20:24.620 And you see, if any of you have been to San Francisco, half the damn cars are driving themselves. 0.98

00:20:32.140 It's here. 0.99

00:20:32.840 It's happening.

00:20:33.840 It's happening.

00:20:34.340 All the bi-directional opportunities, the two-way charging, the fact that these cars are little power plants on wheels.

00:20:41.060 All this extraordinary opportunity.

00:20:42.940 And it's slipping away because of bad policymaking and short-termism.

00:20:47.180 So we're going to continue to push back against that.

00:20:49.800 But I think from a tech and innovation stack, that's our biggest area of focus.

00:20:54.760 The forces shaping the world's economies and financial markets can be hard to spot.

00:20:59.580 Even though they are such a powerful player in finance, you wouldn't really know that you are interacting with them.

00:21:05.820 And even harder to understand.

00:21:08.180 Donald Trump's trade war 2.0 is only accelerating the process of de-dollarization, which in a way is jargon for people turning away from the dollar.

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00:23:10.100 Hey there, I'm Kyle McLaughlin.

00:23:12.400 You might know me as that guy from Twin Peaks, Sex and the City, or just the Internet's dad.

00:23:17.800 I have a new podcast called What Are We Even Doing?

00:23:21.820 where I embark on a noble quest to understand the brilliant chaos of youth culture.

00:23:27.440 Daddy's looking good.

00:23:28.860 Each week, I invite someone fascinating to join me.

00:23:31.840 Actors, musicians, creatives, highly evolved digital life forms, and we talk about what they love.

00:23:38.800 Sometimes I'll drizzle a little honey in there, too, if I'm feeling sexy in the morning.

00:23:42.520 What keeps them going.

00:23:43.580 And you're maybe my biggest competition on social media.

00:23:46.000 Like when a kid says bra to me.

00:23:47.800 And how they're navigating this high-speed rollercoaster we call reality. 0.99

00:23:52.420 In Australia, you're looking out for snakes, spiders, and f*** boys. 0.99

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00:23:56.540 Hey, he's no Tray McDougall.

00:23:57.720 This is like the comments section of my Instagram.

00:24:01.220 Join me and my delightful guests every Thursday, and let's get weird together in a good way.

00:24:07.060 Listen to What Are We Even Doing on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

00:24:14.560 Here we go.

00:24:16.900 Hey, I'm Cal Penn, and on my new podcast, Here We Go Again, we'll take today's trends and headlines and ask,

00:24:23.980 why does history keep repeating itself?

00:24:26.600 You may know me as the second hottest actor from the Harold and Kumar movies,

00:24:30.600 but I'm also an author, a White House staffer, and as of like 15 seconds ago, a podcast host.

00:24:36.000 Along the way, I've made some friends who are experts in science, politics, and pop culture.

00:24:42.140 And each week, one of them will be joining me to answer my burning questions.

00:24:46.500 Like, are we heading towards another financial crash like in 08?

00:24:50.040 Is non-monogamy back in style?

00:24:52.240 And how come there's never a gate ready for your flight when it lands like two minutes early?

00:24:56.840 We've got guests like Pete Buttigieg, Stacey Abrams, Lily Singh, and Bill Nye.

00:25:01.760 When you start weaponizing outer space, things can potentially go really wrong.

00:25:07.880 Look, the world can seem pretty scary right now, because it is.

00:25:11.300 But my goal here is for you to listen and feel a little better about the future.

00:25:16.000 Listen and subscribe to Here We Go Again with Cal Penn on the iHeartRadio app,

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00:25:22.420 All I know is what I've been told, and that to have truth is a whole lie.

00:25:32.580 For almost a decade, the murder of an 18-year-old girl from a small town in Graves County, Kentucky,

00:25:40.580 went unsolved.

00:25:41.900 Until a local homemaker, a journalist, and a handful of girls came forward with a story. 0.86

00:25:48.040 I'm telling you, we know Quincy Hilder. We know.

00:25:51.660 A story that law enforcement used to convict six people,

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00:26:30.140 From Lava for Good, this is Graves County,

00:26:33.760 a show about just how far our legal system will go in order to find someone to blame.

00:26:40.760 America, y'all better work the hell up. 1.00

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00:27:03.540 To say a little bit about, as a practical matter,

00:27:17.180 where you are right now with AI,

00:27:19.820 and is there, has there been any obvious downside?

00:27:24.620 And if so, what is it and how should we manage it?

00:27:27.900 Well, and I sound like I'm bloviating and I can get into all the real problems in my state,

00:27:34.020 affordability being number one, two, three.

00:27:36.600 But we dominate in artificial intelligence.

00:27:39.180 We have no peers.

00:27:40.260 32 of the top 50 market cap companies on the globe, in the globe, are in California.

00:27:45.940 And for obvious reasons.

00:27:50.080 Back to this conveyor belt for talent, the UCs and the CSUs and Caltech and Stanford University,

00:27:55.280 research and development, the Lawrence Livermore Labs and Sandia Labs

00:27:58.780 and all the investments we're making in science.

00:28:01.780 And so it's happening there because the human capital's there.

00:28:05.440 It's why, you know, Elon talks a big game about Texas,

00:28:08.100 but all his folks are in the Bay Area.

00:28:10.380 They're all in California.

00:28:12.240 All those AI folks are there.

00:28:13.660 His global headquarters for R&D is in California,

00:28:17.420 which, by the way, is 18% of the globe's R&D.

00:28:20.780 China, Germany, and California.

00:28:23.260 18% of the global R&D in the state of California.

00:28:28.760 So it's unsurprising we're driving that innovation.

00:28:31.440 But it's all about truth.

00:28:32.720 It's all about trust.

00:28:34.140 Promise, peril.

00:28:36.080 And as a consequence of having so much leadership residing in such a concentrated place,

00:28:40.980 California, we have a sense of responsibility and accountability to lead so we support risk-taking

00:28:47.460 but not recklessness.

00:28:49.500 From a regulatory frame, we're pretty much the only game in town as well.

00:28:54.100 You're seeing what they're trying to do federally to preempt states from regulating.

00:28:59.160 Ted Cruz, a few days ago, doubling down on that, that California needs to be neutered,

00:29:04.640 he says, in this space, even though we're dominating in this space.

00:29:09.180 And so we have worked with Fei-Fei Li, the godmother of AI.

00:29:12.420 We're working with Stanford, MIT.

00:29:14.360 We've worked with Berkeley.

00:29:15.560 And we put out a comprehensive white paper that really analyzed where we were from a regulatory

00:29:22.160 frame.

00:29:22.780 We've signed dozens.

00:29:24.080 I've signed dozens of bills in this space, did the first executive order in the country

00:29:27.260 in this space.

00:29:28.060 But in relationship to the unwinding of President Biden's leadership in this space and the new

00:29:34.580 focus on just let it rip coming out of the White House that David Sachs and others are

00:29:40.540 promoting.

00:29:40.820 And we have a bill, forgive me, that's on my desk, that we think strikes the right balance.

00:29:49.840 And we worked with industry, but we didn't submit to industry.

00:29:54.780 We're not doing things to them, but we're not doing things necessarily for them.

00:29:59.880 And we're trying to answer that question from a policy perspective and find that right balance

00:30:06.260 where we can continue to dominate in this space, continue to support the ecosystem.

00:30:10.160 At the same time, address that peril and the concerns that legitimate people have.

00:30:17.480 I want to change the subject a minute.

00:30:20.780 Back to insurance.

00:30:22.580 Now, everywhere in the country, we read that men are alienated that they're not going to

00:30:38.700 college as much as they did.

00:30:40.080 They are not necessarily prepared for other jobs they can have.

00:30:46.200 And you actually tried to address this in a fairly comprehensive way.

00:30:52.260 And I'd be surprised if almost anybody in the audience who's not from California knows

00:30:58.220 anything about it.

00:30:59.100 So tell us a little about what you've tried to do to help young men.

00:31:07.460 I'm going back to your opening remarks.

00:31:10.220 Look, I was here 20 years ago because you tapped me on the shoulder of part of America's

00:31:16.320 promise.

00:31:17.780 You tapped me on the shoulder in a bipartisan way with General Powell.

00:31:22.040 And I'll never forget General Powell coming here and said,

00:31:23.940 no one stands taller than when he or she bends down on one knee to lift someone else up.

00:31:27.540 I love that.

00:31:28.260 I wrote that down.

00:31:29.580 And I repeat it all the time.

00:31:31.700 California now has a service corps that's larger than the Peace Corps.

00:31:36.880 It's the largest service corps in America.

00:31:39.260 College Corps, Climate Corps, in every category.

00:31:42.020 Building on your work.

00:31:43.700 Building on AmeriCorps.

00:31:45.260 So we just announced to your question, in order to address the crisis of men and boys,

00:31:53.020 the crisis of men and boys.

00:31:55.140 And I say that because it's hard for members of my own party to say that.

00:32:01.120 Because we some feel it's a zero-sum game that we have to address the issues of women

00:32:05.980 and girls and solve for them before we can get to the crisis of men and boys.

00:32:10.700 And when I say crisis, look at the suicide rates.

00:32:12.740 Look at the dropout rates.

00:32:13.920 Look at the deaths of despair.

00:32:15.320 Look at the issues around loneliness.

00:32:17.720 Look at every critical category.

00:32:19.140 It's just blinking red lights for young men.

00:32:25.400 And in order to address this, we've been working with Richard Reeves.

00:32:28.840 We've been working at the Institute of Boys and Men.

00:32:30.520 We've been working with a lot of other folks to develop a framework, a plan to implement,

00:32:36.680 that builds on the constructs that you have framed around service, around mentorship, around tutoring,

00:32:46.520 the work my wife has done, who's done a number of documentaries in this space,

00:32:50.820 including one called Masculivin, about the crisis of masculinity,

00:32:54.240 and begin to substantively address these underlying issues and target interventions.

00:33:01.660 Service is at the core, but it's a component part of a larger strategy that we've just advanced at scale in California.

00:33:08.920 And I'll just end on this.

00:33:09.960 I know our time's up.

00:33:11.320 Just as an example, one of the areas that I never fully appreciated was the lack of men educating our kids.

00:33:19.340 I didn't fully appreciate how few men are in those kindergarten classes, in those second, third grade classes, in middle schools.

00:33:29.920 And so it just begins with just simple interventions.

00:33:33.700 But we also have to acknowledge it.

00:33:35.080 Final word.

00:33:37.140 I love the open hand, not a closed fist.

00:33:40.500 You know, I got a lot of closed fists when I did a podcast I started a few months ago.

00:33:46.120 My first guest was Charlie Kirk, who flew out and visited with me.

00:33:51.580 And second was Steve Bannon.

00:33:55.820 And the reason I had them on was this issue, because they have weaponized this grievance.

00:34:04.600 And electorally, they achieved remarkable results.

00:34:09.980 Charlie Kirk's ability, what he was able to achieve in terms of organizing the campuses,

00:34:14.560 engaging these young men, addressing their grievances, giving them some sense of hope,

00:34:20.020 that someone cared, that they mattered, that they were seen.

00:34:24.660 He was able to produce and organize around that in a deeply meaningful way.

00:34:30.200 And the Democratic Party was nowhere to be found on the issue.

00:34:33.240 And Bannon as well.

00:34:35.100 And so I say that to say this.

00:34:37.380 We need to address the issue because it's the right thing to do,

00:34:40.040 but it's also the smart thing to do.

00:34:48.360 We have to wrap up, but I...

00:34:56.040 If you were to say to this crowd,

00:35:01.740 you have lots of concerns, you know a lot about everything,

00:35:09.160 which is why I like talking to you.

00:35:11.520 But...

00:35:11.740 A group like this,

00:35:17.560 if we could emphasize one thing

00:35:19.860 that we could do in America

00:35:22.740 in the midst of all this political BS

00:35:25.920 that we're dealing with every day,

00:35:27.300 what would you ask us to do?

00:35:30.140 What do you think the most important thing

00:35:31.740 in terms of citizen action is

00:35:34.180 that we could be doing?

00:35:37.360 I remember Justice Brandeis

00:35:39.900 had a wonderful quote.

00:35:42.780 He wrote a lot about citizenship.

00:35:45.080 Said,

00:35:45.280 In a democracy, the most important office, Brandeis said,

00:35:48.500 is not the office of presidency,

00:35:49.920 with respect, certainly not governor or mayor,

00:35:52.440 but it's the office of citizen.

00:35:53.680 This notion of active, not inert citizenship.

00:35:58.400 And I think at the core of that

00:35:59.980 is this idea that we have agency,

00:36:03.120 that we can shape the future,

00:36:04.520 that we're not bystanders in the world.

00:36:06.140 And I think back to the spirit of your opening remarks

00:36:08.780 is this notion

00:36:11.000 that we have the capacity to shape our future,

00:36:17.400 and we also have to recognize

00:36:18.720 that we have to reconcile

00:36:20.260 each other's futures in relationship.

00:36:23.660 And forgive me, I'm closing with my deep CGI,

00:36:27.920 absorbing what you've been about for all these years.

00:36:31.540 This idea that divorce is not an option,

00:36:34.260 as you say all the time.

00:36:36.140 We have to define the terms of our future.

00:36:39.260 And I think that spirit of grace and humility

00:36:42.100 is also part of that as well.

00:36:44.940 And so I just, I thank you, in final words,

00:36:49.060 you know, two decades of preaching this gospel,

00:36:52.000 but also practicing it.

00:36:53.760 And I just think at this precious moment in our life,

00:36:57.500 we need to be reminded

00:36:59.180 that we all want to be loved,

00:37:00.700 we all need to be loved.

00:37:01.920 We all share, as you said,

00:37:03.140 this same short moment in life.

00:37:06.640 I want to be protected,

00:37:07.740 we all want to be respected,

00:37:08.980 we all want to be connected

00:37:09.820 to something larger than ourselves.

00:37:11.180 And I think in that space,

00:37:15.100 we find the answer to your question.

00:37:30.460 A long time ago,

00:37:33.260 when I met the mayor of San Francisco,

00:37:37.080 I came home and told Hillary,

00:37:43.040 I said, you know,

00:37:46.940 I wanted to dislike this guy.

00:37:52.680 I mean, he's good looking and he's tall

00:37:55.580 and he's younger than I am.

00:38:00.100 But there's something special about him.

00:38:02.760 I still believe that.

00:38:06.780 And I thank you for your service

00:38:08.320 and I thank you for being here.

00:38:10.160 Let's give him a hand.

00:38:10.740 Thank you.

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