This is Gavin Newsom - August 15, 2025


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Learn English with Gavin Newsom. California's governor joins a press conference to discuss immigration reform and the need for redrawing the state's congressional districts. He also discusses the use of the Border Patrol as a political tool in order to make a point.

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00:02:48.760 This is Gavin Newsom.
00:02:52.920 Welcome, everybody.
00:02:56.660 Sorry we're a little late getting started.
00:02:58.420 It's been quite a day for the governor.
00:03:00.780 And thank you, Governor Newsom, for joining us today.
00:03:04.180 Great to be with you.
00:03:04.960 Thank you.
00:03:06.020 It's been quite a day for you.
00:03:08.120 I wanted to talk today about what you just said in California and how you said it
00:03:14.220 and the implications in the short term for it, but also the long-term implications for American democracy.
00:03:20.080 It was a big day for you.
00:03:22.140 Do you want to start by telling the audience here who may not have heard your press conference
00:03:26.700 or may not have heard your—or read about it yet—what you have said today in California?
00:03:35.140 Well, if I—and I appreciate it.
00:03:37.640 I want to say where I'm saying it.
00:03:39.900 I'm in Little Tokyo.
00:03:41.600 I'm at the Democracy Center.
00:03:43.160 I'm at the center of what occurred in the 1940s, where people were quite literally picked up
00:03:49.860 right behind me, a few feet away, Japanese, and interned.
00:03:54.440 As we started our press conference with senators, United States senators, Padilla, Schiff, members
00:04:01.020 of Congress, community leaders, everybody assembled, Border Patrol was sent right here
00:04:07.860 to the exact site where people were picked up and interned in the 1940s.
00:04:13.580 I just hope people pause and think about that, that they were directed clearly by the White 0.97
00:04:20.600 House as a political operation to make a point.
00:04:25.040 And that means we didn't have to make much of a point ourselves about what this election
00:04:30.080 is all about and what's happening in this country and this sort of shift towards more
00:04:36.000 authoritarianism and what's at stake with redistricting and what's at stake with our democracy
00:04:41.940 and how the founding fathers would be rolling over in their grave.
00:04:45.820 Well, let's step back a bit because you said when it happened that they were making a specific
00:04:49.780 point and it wasn't just about picking people up.
00:04:52.500 It was about the upcoming 2026 and then 2028 election.
00:04:56.840 Yeah, look, there's no doubt in my mind that, and I said this a few months ago, when we saw
00:05:01.720 4,000 of our National Guard federalized.
00:05:04.820 We saw 700 United States Marines sent to an American city.
00:05:09.040 The first time Donald Trump ever deployed the U.S. military, never did it overseas, did
00:05:14.740 it into the United States of America, into Los Angeles.
00:05:19.320 I said this is a preview of things to come.
00:05:21.540 I don't know what more evidence we need than what happened in Washington, D.C.
00:05:24.620 And you're going to see this all across the United States.
00:05:27.660 What we saw just a moment ago with Border Patrol is a preview of things to come at voting booths
00:05:33.680 and polling places all across this country.
00:05:36.140 These guys aren't screwing around.
00:05:39.320 Wake up.
00:05:41.680 Donald Trump is not screwing around.
00:05:45.180 He called Greg Abbott.
00:05:46.580 He said he was entitled to five seats.
00:05:49.460 He's trying to rig the next election in the midterms.
00:05:52.920 There's a reason members of the Trump team sent me a Trump 2028 hat with a note.
00:05:59.860 But they're not screwing around, and we could no longer screw around either.
00:06:04.800 So you spoke today specifically in response to the demand of President Donald Trump of the
00:06:11.600 Texas legislators to redistrict the state in the middle of a cycle, which is usually every
00:06:19.380 10 years because the U.S. Constitution demands that we do a census every 10 years for redistricting.
00:06:26.760 And Texas has done this before in 2003, but they are looking to redistrict Texas to get rid of a number of
00:06:34.880 Democratic representatives and replace them with Republicans, five.
00:06:38.520 So today in California, you pushed back with a very specific plan.
00:06:44.720 Could you outline that plan for us, even though the maps have not come out yet?
00:06:48.480 We understand.
00:06:49.820 Well, we're fighting fire with fire.
00:06:51.240 We're responding to what appears to be happening in real time in Texas.
00:06:56.580 And rather than having one hand tied behind our back in California, we are asking the people
00:07:03.880 of the state of California in a special election on November 4th through their representatives,
00:07:09.740 two-thirds of which will, on Monday, introduce a constitutional amendment to allow the independent
00:07:16.580 redistricting of California to occur mid-decade, to fight fire, fire, the equivalent of five seats,
00:07:23.360 to neuter and neutralize what's happening in Texas on a temporary basis.
00:07:28.120 We'll do it in a transparent way by putting the maps up and make them available for public review.
00:07:34.560 And we'll do it in the most Democratic way. 0.50
00:07:35.840 The people will ultimately decide.
00:07:38.000 Stark contrast to what's happening in Texas.
00:07:41.060 It's triggered only if Texas moves forward, if Missouri moves forward, if Florida moves forward,
00:07:47.080 if Indiana or Ohio or any of these other states move forward in response to what
00:07:53.360 appears pretty clearly to be the rigging of the midterm election, analogous to what happened
00:08:00.120 after January 6th when Donald Trump started dialing for votes and the very infamous phone
00:08:06.440 calls he made to the secretary of state in Georgia.
00:08:10.280 So I want to get back in a bit to the idea that this is a long-term plan of the MAGA Republicans 0.56
00:08:15.520 to take over the American system entirely so that the Democrats can never win.
00:08:19.900 So we essentially get a one-party state.
00:08:21.660 But let's go back, first of all, to this specific plan, because there's some pieces of it that
00:08:27.620 I think are important for people to understand.
00:08:29.760 The first, as you say, is that it is reactionary.
00:08:32.600 It would only go into effect if the Texas Republicans go forward with their own redistricting plan
00:08:39.940 in the mid-cycle.
00:08:42.020 Is that correct?
00:08:43.140 That's it.
00:08:43.460 There's an exit ramp.
00:08:44.460 They don't move forward.
00:08:45.740 We don't move forward.
00:08:46.880 This is not the fight we want, but we're not going to sit back again and roll over.
00:08:54.160 We're not going to sit back with one hand tied behind our back, have a candlelight vigil,
00:08:58.320 hold hands, talk about the way the world should be, not when we're seeing this level of recklessness,
00:09:05.320 this level of insidiousness as it relates to democratic institutions, democratic norms,
00:09:12.880 and the rigging of the 2026 congressional maps.
00:09:17.220 All right.
00:09:18.060 So if that's the immediate piece of it, there is within it, as I understand it, and I have
00:09:25.820 not yet read the measure, there is within it a demand for a national, nonpartisan.
00:09:33.080 Can you talk about that?
00:09:34.040 Yeah, look, just so people understand and want to level set with folks, good people can disagree
00:09:39.900 on this.
00:09:40.840 I support and have supported independent redistricting.
00:09:43.840 I believe it's the right approach.
00:09:45.400 I'm really proud of my party, the Democratic Party, for doing the same.
00:09:48.820 Zoe Laughlin, who's the head of the California congressional delegation, sponsored legislation,
00:09:54.360 was supported by all the Democrats to create a national independent redistricting.
00:09:59.000 No Republicans supported it.
00:10:00.620 Democrats supported that.
00:10:01.900 That's what we believe.
00:10:02.620 It's the right thing to do.
00:10:04.020 We need to move beyond these partisan gerrymandered districts where we pick voters as opposed
00:10:08.320 to voters picking us.
00:10:10.220 But in the absence of that happening nationwide, in the absence of fairness being advanced in
00:10:18.080 other states, we have to act anew in the sort of language of Lincoln himself and his second
00:10:24.220 State of the Union.
00:10:25.540 We have to disenthrall ourselves.
00:10:27.520 Facts are anew.
00:10:28.440 We have to think anew.
00:10:29.320 And we have to act anew.
00:10:30.940 And I think the key here is act.
00:10:33.260 It's not good enough to talk about.
00:10:35.380 We have to actually move forward.
00:10:38.060 We have to meet this head on.
00:10:39.980 That's why we say fire with fire.
00:10:41.540 It is about power.
00:10:42.760 It's not about party.
00:10:44.180 That's all this is about.
00:10:46.000 But again, it came about in response.
00:10:49.160 If they don't move, we don't move.
00:10:51.160 The legislature on Monday will introduce a number of bills, a constitutional amendment.
00:10:57.040 They will introduce the maps.
00:10:58.820 The fact that maps will come out, I think, as early as tomorrow, so people have a chance
00:11:02.780 to see them.
00:11:03.480 Again, they'll be on people's ballot.
00:11:05.260 And so ultimately, people decide on November 4th.
00:11:07.600 It's an election that coincides with a lot of municipal elections.
00:11:10.660 And we will fund those elections, the special election at the local level, so that there's
00:11:16.240 access and opportunity.
00:11:18.200 We're going to do it in the most transparent way that's ever been done here in the state
00:11:22.600 of California.
00:11:23.260 But we fundamentally believe, and the voters will have a chance to concur, that we should
00:11:29.080 have independent, nationalized redistricting.
00:11:32.080 That is going to be on our ballot as well.
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00:16:39.920 So what would you say to institutionalists like me who say that, in fact, we need to support American institutions,
00:16:49.100 even when other people are not supporting them, because by walking away from them, we destroy the project?
00:16:55.560 Well, I think this project is being destroyed.
00:16:58.560 I mean, the best of the Roman Republic and Greek democracy, co-equal branches of government,
00:17:03.560 a system of checks and balances, popular sovereignty, it's all on the line.
00:17:08.480 There's no independent redistricting.
00:17:10.320 If Trump is successful in wiring the five votes that he claims he's entitled to,
00:17:14.280 or the five seats in Texas and all of these other states, he's not going to stop in Texas.
00:17:18.860 You see what he just tried to do to one of the great research institutions in the world that helped create the internet,
00:17:24.660 UCLA, the $1 billion extortion package.
00:17:28.380 They're selling their souls.
00:17:29.700 God help us.
00:17:30.660 God help us.
00:17:31.620 They'll do this at Harvard.
00:17:33.520 Institutions.
00:17:34.380 My gosh.
00:17:35.780 Institutions.
00:17:36.400 How about free enterprise?
00:17:37.700 How about what NVIDIA just did?
00:17:39.260 AMD.
00:17:40.860 Institutions.
00:17:41.780 They're fraying.
00:17:42.660 They're cracking.
00:17:43.300 So we have got to, this is about power, yes, but it's also about power pushing back against Trump,
00:17:49.720 and it's also about power to call out this rigged election that he's tried to advance
00:17:55.580 and to try to provide a level playing field.
00:17:58.020 That's all we're trying to do, neutralize what they're doing in Texas.
00:18:01.920 Well, you certainly could make the argument that what you are doing is quite intelligently
00:18:08.600 looking at the nation as a whole and California as a piece of that.
00:18:14.060 So by protecting the larger institutional system of the checks and balances in the country
00:18:18.840 and stopping this extraordinary power grab, that in fact you are supporting those institutions,
00:18:24.340 not undercutting them.
00:18:25.400 Do you think that's fair?
00:18:26.700 I couldn't agree with you more.
00:18:28.080 I mean, this is, you know, this is about all of us.
00:18:31.020 This is about the United States of America, the implications.
00:18:34.540 Everyone listening, the implications are well beyond California.
00:18:37.380 And this is about representation.
00:18:40.640 It's about, it's as fundamental and foundational as it gets.
00:18:44.580 And again, this is the core enduring experiment that we've enjoyed, but can no longer take for
00:18:50.800 granted for 249 years.
00:18:52.800 I mean, the idea that Donald Trump is going to represent this nation on the 250th anniversary,
00:18:59.360 and he's up to this?
00:19:01.900 I mean, come on.
00:19:02.820 We're going to represent, the American people are going to represent the country at the 250th.
00:19:09.480 God bless you.
00:19:10.640 And that reminds me of Justice Hagan's dissent and not dissimilar redistricting issues where
00:19:20.380 the power of the government is endowed by the people.
00:19:23.580 I'm here at the Democracy Center, and Heather, in that spirit, I remember Justice Brandeis
00:19:28.320 said, in a democracy, the most important office is not office of president, certainly not governor,
00:19:35.200 city council, mayor.
00:19:36.440 The most important office is office of citizen.
00:19:39.420 And it's about active, not inert citizenship.
00:19:41.920 And so this notion of we the people is foundational, and I appreciate that spirit, and I appreciate
00:19:50.280 your reflection of that.
00:19:51.960 Well, you mentioned that in your speech today.
00:19:54.540 You talked about agency and about how part of what you're doing is trying to remind Americans
00:19:59.340 that they do have agency over their government.
00:20:02.520 Was that a deliberate call for this speech?
00:20:05.160 Yeah, I don't know what's happened.
00:20:06.400 I feel like some of us, we've become victims in so many respects.
00:20:09.560 We forget, we're not bystanders in the world, that the future is not just something to experience,
00:20:14.820 it's something to manifest.
00:20:15.900 It's right here.
00:20:16.920 It's right inside of us.
00:20:18.140 It is.
00:20:18.620 It's decisions, not conditions.
00:20:21.540 And I don't, you know, maybe after the pandemic, I started reading a little more Epictetus and
00:20:27.500 Marcus Aurelius and Seneca and spent a little time with the Stoics a little bit.
00:20:32.000 But it's a reminder, it's not what happens to us.
00:20:35.640 It's how we respond to what happens to us that matters.
00:20:39.920 And we have agency.
00:20:42.220 That's what citizens, he can't take that away from us.
00:20:45.020 He can't.
00:20:45.440 He's trying.
00:20:46.860 He can only take it away if we allow him to take it away from us.
00:20:51.020 And I'm very mindful that that's happened in other countries around the world and other
00:20:55.220 points of our history.
00:20:56.940 With the consent, there's a complicity.
00:20:59.820 We are not bystanders.
00:21:01.860 Well, one of the things that jumped out to me about this declaration of the governor
00:21:07.720 of California that he would use the power, the extraordinary power of the state of California,
00:21:13.120 which, as you say, has the population of 21 of the smaller states and the fourth largest
00:21:17.600 economy in the world.
00:21:19.040 Congratulations on that.
00:21:20.120 By the way, that came earlier this year.
00:21:21.940 You moved from fifth to fourth.
00:21:23.780 But what really interested me about that in terms of the way we think about American democracy
00:21:30.480 in the larger picture is I believe this is the first time in American history where a state
00:21:39.240 has called for other states to pressure the national government to change the system for
00:21:46.820 larger inclusion in democracy.
00:21:49.000 And what I mean by that is that generally after World War II, the liberals who wanted the
00:21:55.540 government to regulate business and provide a basic social safety net and protect civil
00:22:00.480 rights and invest in infrastructure look to the federal government to move states along
00:22:06.900 those lines, especially states that had tended to discriminate against their populations.
00:22:11.620 And so there's been a tendency for people who cared about those issues.
00:22:15.520 And that's not just, by the way, in the 1950s and 60s and 70s, a democratic proposition,
00:22:21.620 but an American proposition to look to the federal government.
00:22:25.600 But I believe this is the first time that a state has said we will leverage our very strong
00:22:31.220 power to force the federal government to stop destroying our democracy.
00:22:36.240 I think it's a really big moment, what you have just declared.
00:22:40.080 Did you see it that way?
00:22:42.000 Yeah, no, it's interesting.
00:22:42.820 As you're framing it, I'm starting to see it that way.
00:22:45.880 Look, I've seen, and Ron Brownstein and others have been writing a lot about this,
00:22:50.760 this great divergence that's occurred in this country in the last, I don't know, decade or
00:22:56.120 so, red versus blue.
00:22:58.380 We've seen, as you describe it, you know, from sort of post-World War II frame, this rights
00:23:03.340 expansion, this increasing and growing nationalization of rights.
00:23:07.200 And now we're seeing that regression state by state.
00:23:10.480 I started to see it a number of years ago in a deeper way when I started to reconcile
00:23:14.940 the fact that I'm on the receiving end of CRT, DEI, ESG, anything with three letters.
00:23:20.500 They started to shape shift.
00:23:22.140 And we started to see that with Ron DeSantis, in particular Abbott, in many respects, without
00:23:26.280 as much fanfare, starting to sort of rewrite history, censor historic facts, what more evidence
00:23:31.860 we need with Smithsonian and what's going on there.
00:23:34.340 And I started to see it as it relates to curriculum being changed.
00:23:37.360 I saw it with books that are being banned, literally, or books, even worse, that are
00:23:41.620 being changed, like social studies books, where they're taking the race of Rosa Parks out of
00:23:46.500 the book because it's, quote, unquote, too woke as it relates to the history of the civil
00:23:50.680 rights movement.
00:23:52.280 And so this nationalization of rights that now seems to be moving backwards to pre-1960s
00:23:59.960 construct, it just occurs to me now, to the extent possible, states can assert themselves
00:24:05.580 like California, states that might just be able to punch a little bit above their weight,
00:24:10.380 that we can lay a little bit more claim to recognizing this moment in history and push
00:24:17.740 back and move back, I think, to our better angels, where we truly are, as Adam Schiff said
00:24:26.540 today, you know, sort of marking that sort of infamous MLK frame that, you know, that
00:24:36.900 arc of history will ultimately bend towards justice.
00:24:39.900 And I just feel like it's getting increasingly out of our grasp, and we've got to pull that
00:24:43.780 arc back down.
00:24:45.120 Well, you did something else very interesting, though, in your speech that speaks to that,
00:24:49.500 and that is that really since, well, at least for the last 20 years, and I would push it
00:24:54.020 back for 20 before that, there's been a tendency among the rhetoric of the radical right to
00:25:00.380 demonize democratic states, especially California and New York, but especially California.
00:25:05.720 And you actually took on Texas today, and you also spoke up very powerfully about having
00:25:13.660 pride in the things that make California great.
00:25:18.060 That, too, I thought was an important rhetorical shift.
00:25:20.880 I appreciate that.
00:25:22.440 I looked around the room as people were cheering.
00:25:24.400 It's the most diverse crowd in the most diverse city, the world's most diverse democracy.
00:25:29.040 It's a point of pride.
00:25:29.980 It's all at stake.
00:25:31.160 We don't say it enough.
00:25:33.040 You know, why is California the fourth largest economy?
00:25:35.460 I appreciate you recognizing that.
00:25:36.860 It's not despite that diversity.
00:25:38.880 It's because of it.
00:25:39.540 We get first-round draft choices around the rest of the world.
00:25:41.980 The best and the brightest come to California, states like California, other large states across
00:25:47.060 this country because they feel seen and heard.
00:25:51.200 They feel a sense of belonging.
00:25:53.220 That's what makes this country great.
00:25:55.560 That's what's made America great.
00:25:57.900 Lady torch, you know, that Lady Liberty's torch, you know, that life force, as Reagan said. 0.96
00:26:03.080 Yes, Ronald Reagan himself, of new Americans.
00:26:06.300 That's our greatness.
00:26:07.560 And all of that is at risk.
00:26:09.160 That's what the Border Patrol was sitting there trying to disabuse us of.
00:26:13.900 I'm not going to, we're not going to let Donald Trump wreck that.
00:26:17.260 And I'm not, you know, there's, I'll acknowledge each other.
00:26:20.160 There is, there's definitely, I submit Trump derangement syndrome, but there sure as hell
00:26:25.120 is California derangement syndrome.
00:26:27.460 We have more scientists, engineers, more researchers, more Nobel laureates than any other state in
00:26:31.560 America.
00:26:32.280 Just think about the UC system that he's attacking, 13,800 active patents.
00:26:38.240 There's no other university system on planet Earth with more patents.
00:26:41.280 You care about national security.
00:26:44.220 You care about economic progress.
00:26:47.080 You care about innovation and entrepreneurialism.
00:26:49.240 You care about dominating the next century and globally and otherwise.
00:26:52.820 You sure as hell better care about those institutions.
00:26:55.600 All of those are at risk with the rule of dawn.
00:26:59.360 And I hope it's dawning on people what's at stake.
00:27:02.020 Well, the contrast of ICE being there as you said that, because of course, economists a
00:27:09.180 thousand percent bear out exactly what you just said here, was a striking moment.
00:27:13.920 It was also, I thought, a very striking moment that Trump and the MAGA Republicans, especially
00:27:20.180 I'm thinking of somebody like Stephen Miller right now, the White House deputy chief of staff,
00:27:25.380 have made it a point really to talk about how terrible America is, that it's American carnage,
00:27:30.160 that there's, you know, who was it, the senator from Oklahoma today, Mark Wayne Mullins,
00:27:36.520 said he drives around Washington without a seatbelt because he's afraid he's going to get carjacked.
00:27:41.740 I'm like, dude, come on.
00:27:43.120 Like, really?
00:27:44.180 I spent a lot of time in Washington.
00:27:46.380 More likely to be carjacked in his state than he is in these blue states.
00:27:49.900 I'll remind everyone watching, eight of the top ten murder states in America are red states. 0.77
00:27:54.660 Because you've got, you talk about the Speaker of the House, Johnson, his district has six or eight
00:28:01.060 times more murder rate per capita than Nancy Pelosi's. 0.94
00:28:04.620 Why the hell isn't Trump sending the National Guard in to deal with a carnage in Speaker Johnson's
00:28:10.260 backyard?
00:28:10.780 It's all BS.
00:28:12.140 It's all performative.
00:28:13.400 But it's all very real.
00:28:15.940 And that's why we need to sober up.
00:28:18.300 We need to act differently.
00:28:20.280 It's time we have to get back on the offense.
00:28:22.320 It's time we shapeshift the conversation.
00:28:24.560 It's time we dominate and flood the zone on the narrative. 1.00
00:28:27.120 And it's time we call out the bullshit. 1.00
00:28:29.260 She's my language. 1.00
00:28:30.080 I know there's a lot of them.
00:28:31.860 A lot of us are swearing a lot more than we used to.
00:28:34.640 And forgive me.
00:28:36.140 But the reality is we're in a new reality.
00:28:40.900 And in Democrats, I think the biggest problem with our party right now is the sense that we're
00:28:45.100 weak, that we're weak.
00:28:47.620 And it's time to disabuse people of that.
00:28:50.920 We have power.
00:28:52.480 We need to start exercising it.
00:28:54.480 Okay, you said a bunch of things there that I think are really important.
00:28:57.160 Agency, offense, and defense of the qualities that have always made America great.
00:29:04.160 You referenced Ronald Reagan there.
00:29:05.800 The last public speech he gave talked about how important immigration was to making America
00:29:11.560 stay on the top of its game, constantly innovating, constantly being the best in the world because
00:29:18.320 we welcomed new people.
00:29:19.880 And that he said if we stopped that, we would cease to be America.
00:29:23.280 We would cease to be the country we were.
00:29:25.240 And I think we're seeing that.
00:29:27.780 You got it.
00:29:28.240 I mean, look, we've had a formula for success in this country.
00:29:33.440 And I mean, for everybody, we've been there.
00:29:35.820 For all the challenges, and we have, it goes without saying, we have all these pre-existing
00:29:42.440 conditions.
00:29:43.360 But we have been the envy of the world.
00:29:45.980 And these guys are trying to wreck it.
00:29:48.400 They're trying to wreck it.
00:29:50.100 And they don't know what the hell they're doing.
00:29:52.140 Trump doesn't know what the hell he's doing.
00:29:55.460 And you have all of these people that are complicit, and they're shaking their head.
00:29:59.460 Yes, sir.
00:29:59.880 And the worst part, Heather, it's some of the wealthiest and most connected people that
00:30:05.620 are selling out.
00:30:07.560 That's why if Harvard does this, they will sell out higher education in this country.
00:30:12.240 It is a shame.
00:30:13.340 It would be a disgrace.
00:30:14.840 You have some of the wealthiest business leaders selling out, allowing their companies to be
00:30:19.060 nationalized, socialized, dare I say.
00:30:21.620 We cannot allow that to happen.
00:30:24.340 People are scared.
00:30:25.100 I'll tell you what.
00:30:25.860 We have some people that want to contribute to this campaign. 1.00
00:30:27.980 They're scared of the retribution from this son of a bitch. 1.00
00:30:31.640 I mean, this is how bad it is. 1.00
00:30:34.220 Let me just explain for people who may not have been following it that, in fact, the
00:30:38.160 Trump administration has been exercising really quite unusual control over government
00:30:43.380 mergers, for example.
00:30:44.600 They've been requiring 15 percent kickbacks on the sale of certain kinds of chips to China
00:30:49.120 and so on.
00:30:50.240 And there is a real concern that this is a form of state capitalism that looks a lot more
00:30:56.740 more like China than it looks like our free labor system.
00:31:01.460 But while we're on that topic, though, Governor, what about the your new I think you have a
00:31:07.900 very new approach to how you were taking on the Trump administration.
00:31:10.880 And I know that I've been reprinting you and certainly a lot of people have been retweeting
00:31:15.740 you.
00:31:16.060 Why did you make the decision to do what you're doing?
00:31:19.480 Can you explain it to us and say, you know, where you think it fits in this fight that
00:31:25.140 we are on to protect American democracy?
00:31:28.020 Yeah, look, I have.
00:31:32.720 We all have a sell by date and I'm not going to dream of regretting.
00:31:36.000 I'm putting out all putting all out of the line.
00:31:38.100 And I just I I I I've never been more concerned about this country and for that matter, the
00:31:46.140 world that we're living in.
00:31:49.400 And and I'm I recognize the power of communication.
00:31:53.380 I realize the power of the narrative we talked about a moment ago, or at least I asserted the
00:31:59.020 imperative of claiming the narrative.
00:32:02.800 And and I'm just iterating.
00:32:04.900 I'm constantly iterating.
00:32:06.180 So I got a podcast.
00:32:07.020 I'm just trying new things.
00:32:09.120 And I'm there's humility in that.
00:32:10.640 There's grace.
00:32:11.260 I I'm just trying to see what works.
00:32:13.620 And and I, you know, decided a few days ago with the team to to mimic a little bit of
00:32:19.660 the childishness that is Donald Trump and what he puts out on Truth Social in all caps, exclamation,
00:32:26.760 exclamation.
00:32:28.680 And, you know, I don't know, some refer to it as a parody of sorts, but it's been a potent
00:32:33.320 communication tool.
00:32:34.940 People are now talking about I'm getting people that never reach out to me that don't care
00:32:40.160 much about politics, can't stand politicians.
00:32:42.740 I just want to talk to me about sports or culture saying, hey, wait, I saw your tweet
00:32:47.080 kind of like that.
00:32:48.120 All of a sudden they're paying a little bit more attention and they're maybe paying attention
00:32:51.700 to the childishness that is Donald Trump, that we've allowed him to normalize the way
00:32:58.660 he communicates, talking down to us, talking past us.
00:33:03.160 And so, yeah, we're we're iterating.
00:33:05.760 We're trying new things.
00:33:07.000 I'm not trying to claim anything except a willingness to try, a willingness to learn, again, with,
00:33:14.680 as I said, the humility and grace of the moment that it requires.
00:33:18.140 Do you want to tell this audience what you said in response to a question about it at your
00:33:21.840 press conference after the after the speech?
00:33:24.760 No, I mean, I just I basically reinforce a little bit more succinctly what I just said. 0.96
00:33:28.960 Um, look, uh, how it's it's pathetic. 0.96
00:33:33.260 He's the president of the United States, the president of the United States of America. 0.87
00:33:38.980 Uh, and he's sitting there at one, two in the morning with all caps.
00:33:43.440 Uh, and it just, uh, anyway, I don't know.
00:33:48.400 I don't know how many more I'll have of, uh, of those tweets, but if you haven't checked
00:33:52.600 out some of my tweets, go online.
00:33:54.660 You may enjoy a few.
00:33:55.500 So I believe you said, if you have a problem with my tweets, you sure should have a problem
00:34:00.600 with the president of the United States making those tweets.
00:34:03.520 Exactly.
00:34:04.600 I mean, I got kids and I got, we have a whole generation of people who thinks this is normal.
00:34:11.640 It's not.
00:34:12.620 And it can't be normalized.
00:34:14.220 And that's a big part of what we're also pushing back against.
00:34:17.660 Pay attention, everybody.
00:34:18.720 Please, please, please, please pay attention to what's going on.
00:34:21.700 Have you ever looked at a piece of abstract art or music or poetry and thought, that's
00:34:29.100 just a bunch of pretentious nonsense?
00:34:31.380 Well, that's exactly what two bored Australian soldiers set out to prove during World War
00:34:35.860 II when they pulled off what was either a bold literary hoax or a grand poetic experiment,
00:34:41.420 publishing over a dozen intentionally bad but highly acclaimed works of expressionist poetry
00:34:46.480 under the name Urn Malley in an incident that caused a media firestorm and even a criminal
00:34:52.120 trial.
00:34:53.080 The Urn Malley episode made fools of believers and critics alike and still fascinates poetry
00:34:58.100 lovers to this day.
00:34:59.580 We break down the truth, the lies, and the poetry in between on Hoax, a new podcast hosted
00:35:04.740 by me, Lizzie Logan.
00:35:06.200 And me, Dana Schwartz.
00:35:07.440 Every episode, Hoax explores an audacious fraud or ruse from history, from forged artworks
00:35:13.740 to the original fake news, to try and answer why we believe.
00:35:17.900 Listen to Hoax on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
00:35:22.020 Hey guys, it's AZFUD.
00:35:25.940 You may know me as a gold medalist.
00:35:28.120 You may know me as an NCAA national champion and recent most outstanding player.
00:35:32.700 You may even know me as a people's princess.
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00:35:38.420 Every week on my new podcast, FUD Around and Find Out, I'll give you an inside look
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00:36:24.980 American history is full of wise people.
00:36:29.660 What women said something like, you know, 99.99% of war is diarrhea and 1% is gory.
00:36:35.860 Those founding fathers were gossipy AF and they love to cut each other down.
00:36:41.700 I'm Bob Crawford, host of American History Hotline, the show where you send us your questions
00:36:47.320 about American history and I find the answers, including the nuggets of wisdom our history
00:36:53.380 has to offer.
00:36:54.660 Hamilton pauses and then he says, the greatest man that ever lived was Julius Caesar.
00:37:00.140 And Jefferson writes in his diary, this proves that Hamilton is for a dictator based on corruption.
00:37:06.520 My favorite line was what Neil Armstrong said, it would have been harder to fake it than
00:37:12.000 to do it.
00:37:13.100 Listen to American History Hotline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your
00:37:19.400 podcasts.
00:37:23.900 I'm Dr. Joy Harden-Bradford, and in session 421 of Therapy for Black Girls, I sit down with
00:37:29.960 Dr. Afia and Billy Shaka to explore how our hair connects to our identity, mental health,
00:37:35.460 and the ways we heal.
00:37:37.020 Because I think hair is a complex language system, right?
00:37:40.320 In terms of it can tell how old you are, your marital status, where you're from, your
00:37:45.060 spiritual belief.
00:37:46.480 But I think with social media, there's like a hyper fixation and observation of our hair,
00:37:52.120 right?
00:37:52.380 That this is sometimes the first thing someone sees when we make a post or a reel is how our
00:37:57.520 hair is styled.
00:37:58.680 We talk about the important role hairstylists play in our communities, the pressure to always
00:38:03.540 look put together, and how breaking up with perfection can actually free us.
00:38:08.300 Plus, if you're someone who gets anxious about flying, don't miss session 418 with Dr. Angela
00:38:14.060 Neal Barnett, where we dive into managing flight anxiety.
00:38:18.160 Listen to Therapy for Black Girls on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
00:38:23.320 Your entire identity has been fabricated.
00:38:27.760 Your beloved brother goes missing without a trace.
00:38:31.100 You discover the depths of your mother's illness, the way it has echoed and reverberated throughout
00:38:35.860 your life, impacting your very legacy.
00:38:39.600 Hi, I'm Dani Shapiro.
00:38:41.800 And these are just a few of the profound and powerful stories I'll be mining on our 12th season
00:38:48.300 of Family Secrets.
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00:38:56.740 courageously told stories.
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00:39:15.980 Listen to Family Secrets Season 12 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your
00:39:22.200 podcasts.
00:39:26.880 So I have just two very quick questions for you.
00:39:29.760 One is, I'm not going to ask you how you think Trump will respond, because we don't know.
00:39:34.180 That's one of the reasons we sort of have to take it on a moment-by-moment basis.
00:39:37.880 But do you have a series of plans in place depending on how he responds to this?
00:39:42.880 Because he will.
00:39:43.680 That was a red flag to a bull.
00:39:45.980 Boy, he responded today.
00:39:47.900 Border Patrol was out there for a reason.
00:39:49.900 That wasn't done.
00:39:50.720 That wasn't out of the stance.
00:39:52.460 That's, I mean, that's an Orban, you know, turkey playbook. 0.99
00:39:57.220 I mean, that was just, you know, that was, you know, that's, as I said, weakness masquerading
00:40:02.260 as strength.
00:40:03.160 But again, it was a master class of making our point, not his point.
00:40:06.900 He made no point.
00:40:07.900 He made our point of what's at stake.
00:40:10.520 So that's how he'll react.
00:40:11.680 He's reacted by saying, I should be arrested.
00:40:13.460 Under what basis?
00:40:14.720 He said, well, because he was elected governor.
00:40:17.400 I mean, you can't make this stuff up.
00:40:18.900 So look, I'm not naive.
00:40:20.480 He's reacting.
00:40:21.460 He's trying to wreck California.
00:40:23.880 He's, you know, he's trying to wreck the only high-speed rail system in the Western
00:40:26.420 Hemisphere.
00:40:27.180 He's trying to go after us as it relates to institutions of higher learning.
00:40:30.600 Any independent, any place that cultivates independent thinking, Donald Trump is going
00:40:36.500 after.
00:40:37.960 Any institution that cultivates independent thinking.
00:40:42.380 And that should sober everyone up.
00:40:45.040 Not just California, not just Californians, not just elected officials.
00:40:48.900 I'm fine.
00:40:49.860 The 15-year-old that had a gun pulled to his head, who's disabled, trying to go to school
00:40:55.700 last week.
00:40:56.220 He's not.
00:40:57.480 The rest of his life, he's going to have that image of a gun that was put to his head
00:41:01.320 by ICE agents.
00:41:03.820 So that's, what the hell do we need to sober up?
00:41:08.720 So that is my final question for you.
00:41:12.600 You talked about agency.
00:41:13.780 You've talked about new things, new ways to approach the protection of democracy.
00:41:17.660 You've talked about what you are doing.
00:41:20.560 What should the American people be doing to support the Democratic project right now?
00:41:26.100 Because everybody wants to do something.
00:41:29.600 The popularity of this administration, you know, is in the toilet.
00:41:33.960 The people who support Project 2024, about 4% of Americans support it when they know what
00:41:38.940 it is.
00:41:39.740 What should people be doing to support the protection of American democracy?
00:41:44.960 It's the right question.
00:41:48.300 And I think about this all the time.
00:41:49.400 I get this question all the time.
00:41:51.220 What he's trying to do, the shock and awe is trying to just, just, just weight us down,
00:41:56.420 try to distract us, try to exhaust us.
00:41:59.100 We're just overwhelmed.
00:42:00.720 And as a consequence, we just sort of stand back and step down and just get lost in, you
00:42:12.280 know, we can't allow him to allow us to fall prey to cynicism and fear.
00:42:18.240 And I want everyone listening to know they're the antidote to that cynicism and fear.
00:42:23.060 The fact that you're even watching this, if you are, even if you came here because you
00:42:26.540 can't stand me, you're the antidote to that cynicism and fear.
00:42:30.620 You haven't given up.
00:42:31.900 You haven't given it.
00:42:33.300 And I think the answer is not complicated.
00:42:36.040 Just be yourself.
00:42:38.240 Say what you think.
00:42:39.120 Learn from, don't follow others.
00:42:41.400 Express yourself.
00:42:42.780 Do so in a responsible way.
00:42:44.620 Don't talk past people.
00:42:46.400 Don't talk down to people.
00:42:48.400 All of us want to be loved.
00:42:49.640 All of us need to be loved.
00:42:50.680 We all want to be protected, connected, and respected.
00:42:53.040 Have that in your heart, but be accountable by exercising your voice.
00:42:58.060 Show up.
00:42:59.020 It inspires people.
00:43:00.200 And that No King's Day, you inspired me.
00:43:02.560 I wasn't sure how that was going, the big 250th anniversary, big birthday bash.
00:43:08.000 I honestly didn't know I was going to go.
00:43:09.940 Like, I'm starting to feel it.
00:43:11.140 I'm feeling it.
00:43:12.400 And I have this bully pulpit, this gift.
00:43:14.380 I can imagine how many people are feeling.
00:43:16.280 But you showed up.
00:43:17.740 And I mean, you put wind in my sail.
00:43:20.620 I mean, like, thank you for having our back.
00:43:24.140 The fact that we've even gotten this far with the legislature and with our congressional.
00:43:28.260 I mean, this is amazing.
00:43:29.800 Thank you.
00:43:30.700 Thank you for not giving up.
00:43:33.700 Keep at it.
00:43:34.640 Seriously.
00:43:35.460 Like, proud.
00:43:36.420 Just as a guy who's the ex-governor of California.
00:43:39.600 A guy who's trying to raise four kids just to be decent people.
00:43:42.480 I don't care if they're Democrats or Republicans.
00:43:44.280 I just want them to be good human beings.
00:43:45.920 And I want them to have the privileges that all of us have, the freedoms, the liberties,
00:43:51.220 the ability to live their lives out loud.
00:43:54.080 And those things you can't take for granted anymore.
00:43:59.280 Amen, Governor Newsom.
00:44:01.240 Thank you so much for being with us.
00:44:03.440 And I hope we do this again sometime.
00:44:05.720 Best of luck to you and best of luck with this project.
00:44:09.460 I appreciate it.
00:44:10.140 Honor to be with you.
00:44:10.980 Seriously.
00:44:12.020 Take care.
00:44:12.720 Thank you for being here, everybody.
00:44:14.760 Thank you, everybody.
00:44:15.380 Have you ever looked at a piece of abstract art or music or poetry and thought,
00:44:20.280 that's just a bunch of pretentious nonsense?
00:44:22.500 That's exactly what two bored Australian soldiers set out to prove during World War II
00:44:26.860 when they tricked the literary world with their intentionally bad poetry,
00:44:30.680 setting off a major scandal.
00:44:32.280 We break down the truth, the lies, and the poetry in between on Hoax,
00:44:35.720 a new podcast hosted by me, Lizzie Logan.
00:44:38.620 And me, Dana Schwartz.
00:44:39.820 Every episode, Hoax explores an audacious fraud or ruse from history.
00:44:44.480 Listen to Hoax on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
00:44:49.240 Hey, guys.
00:44:52.000 It's AZ Fudd.
00:44:52.960 You may know me as a gold medalist.
00:44:54.940 You may know me as an NCAA national champion.
00:44:57.800 You may even know me as a people's princess.
00:45:00.300 Every week on my new podcast, Fudd Around and Find Out,
00:45:03.340 I'll be talking to some special guests about pop culture, basketball,
00:45:06.860 and what it's like to be a professional athlete on and off the court.
00:45:10.280 Listen to Fudd Around and Find Out, 0.56
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00:45:25.500 will be identified in our lifetime.
00:45:28.100 On the new podcast, America's Crime Lab,
00:45:30.340 every case has a story to tell, and the DNA holds the truth.
00:45:34.540 He never thought he was going to get caught,
00:45:36.360 and I just looked at my computer screen.
00:45:38.900 I was just like, ah, gotcha.
00:45:40.480 This technology's already solving so many cases.
00:45:44.280 Listen to America's Crime Lab on the iHeartRadio app,
00:45:47.740 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
00:45:51.400 What would you do if one bad decision forced you to choose
00:45:54.740 between a maximum security prison
00:45:56.840 or the most brutal boot camp designed to be hell on earth?
00:46:00.900 Unfortunately for Mark Lombardo, this was the choice he faced.
00:46:04.500 He said, you are a number, a New York State number, and we own you.
00:46:10.560 Listen to Shock Incarceration on the iHeartRadio app,
00:46:13.560 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
00:46:17.060 I'm Bob Crawford, host of American History Hotline,
00:46:25.200 a different type of podcast.
00:46:27.640 You, the listener, ask the questions.
00:46:30.560 Did George Washington really cut down a cherry tree?
00:46:32.900 Were JFK and Marilyn Monroe having an affair?
00:46:35.180 And I find the answers.
00:46:36.880 I'm so glad you asked me this question. 0.98
00:46:38.860 This is such a ridiculous story. 0.52
00:46:40.460 You can listen to American History Hotline on the iHeartRadio app, 0.81
00:46:45.280 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
00:46:50.960 This is an iHeart Podcast.