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Learn English with Gavin Newsom. California's governor joins a press conference to discuss immigration reform and the need for redrawing the state's congressional districts. He also discusses the use of the Border Patrol as a political tool in order to make a point.
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And thank you, Governor Newsom, for joining us today.
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I wanted to talk today about what you just said in California and how you said it
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and the implications in the short term for it, but also the long-term implications for American democracy.
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Do you want to start by telling the audience here who may not have heard your press conference
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or may not have heard your—or read about it yet—what you have said today in California?
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I'm at the center of what occurred in the 1940s, where people were quite literally picked up
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right behind me, a few feet away, Japanese, and interned.
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As we started our press conference with senators, United States senators, Padilla, Schiff, members
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of Congress, community leaders, everybody assembled, Border Patrol was sent right here
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to the exact site where people were picked up and interned in the 1940s.
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I just hope people pause and think about that, that they were directed clearly by the White
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House as a political operation to make a point.
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And that means we didn't have to make much of a point ourselves about what this election
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is all about and what's happening in this country and this sort of shift towards more
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authoritarianism and what's at stake with redistricting and what's at stake with our democracy
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and how the founding fathers would be rolling over in their grave.
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Well, let's step back a bit because you said when it happened that they were making a specific
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point and it wasn't just about picking people up.
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It was about the upcoming 2026 and then 2028 election.
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Yeah, look, there's no doubt in my mind that, and I said this a few months ago, when we saw
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We saw 700 United States Marines sent to an American city.
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The first time Donald Trump ever deployed the U.S. military, never did it overseas, did
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it into the United States of America, into Los Angeles.
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I don't know what more evidence we need than what happened in Washington, D.C.
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And you're going to see this all across the United States.
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What we saw just a moment ago with Border Patrol is a preview of things to come at voting booths
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He's trying to rig the next election in the midterms.
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There's a reason members of the Trump team sent me a Trump 2028 hat with a note.
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But they're not screwing around, and we could no longer screw around either.
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So you spoke today specifically in response to the demand of President Donald Trump of the
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Texas legislators to redistrict the state in the middle of a cycle, which is usually every
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10 years because the U.S. Constitution demands that we do a census every 10 years for redistricting.
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And Texas has done this before in 2003, but they are looking to redistrict Texas to get rid of a number of
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Democratic representatives and replace them with Republicans, five.
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So today in California, you pushed back with a very specific plan.
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Could you outline that plan for us, even though the maps have not come out yet?
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We're responding to what appears to be happening in real time in Texas.
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And rather than having one hand tied behind our back in California, we are asking the people
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of the state of California in a special election on November 4th through their representatives,
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two-thirds of which will, on Monday, introduce a constitutional amendment to allow the independent
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redistricting of California to occur mid-decade, to fight fire, fire, the equivalent of five seats,
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to neuter and neutralize what's happening in Texas on a temporary basis.
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We'll do it in a transparent way by putting the maps up and make them available for public review.
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It's triggered only if Texas moves forward, if Missouri moves forward, if Florida moves forward,
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if Indiana or Ohio or any of these other states move forward in response to what
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appears pretty clearly to be the rigging of the midterm election, analogous to what happened
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after January 6th when Donald Trump started dialing for votes and the very infamous phone
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calls he made to the secretary of state in Georgia.
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So I want to get back in a bit to the idea that this is a long-term plan of the MAGA Republicans
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to take over the American system entirely so that the Democrats can never win.
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But let's go back, first of all, to this specific plan, because there's some pieces of it that
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I think are important for people to understand.
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The first, as you say, is that it is reactionary.
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It would only go into effect if the Texas Republicans go forward with their own redistricting plan
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This is not the fight we want, but we're not going to sit back again and roll over.
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We're not going to sit back with one hand tied behind our back, have a candlelight vigil,
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hold hands, talk about the way the world should be, not when we're seeing this level of recklessness,
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this level of insidiousness as it relates to democratic institutions, democratic norms,
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and the rigging of the 2026 congressional maps.
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So if that's the immediate piece of it, there is within it, as I understand it, and I have
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not yet read the measure, there is within it a demand for a national, nonpartisan.
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Yeah, look, just so people understand and want to level set with folks, good people can disagree
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I support and have supported independent redistricting.
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I'm really proud of my party, the Democratic Party, for doing the same.
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Zoe Laughlin, who's the head of the California congressional delegation, sponsored legislation,
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was supported by all the Democrats to create a national independent redistricting.
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We need to move beyond these partisan gerrymandered districts where we pick voters as opposed
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But in the absence of that happening nationwide, in the absence of fairness being advanced in
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other states, we have to act anew in the sort of language of Lincoln himself and his second
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The legislature on Monday will introduce a number of bills, a constitutional amendment.
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The fact that maps will come out, I think, as early as tomorrow, so people have a chance
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And so ultimately, people decide on November 4th.
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It's an election that coincides with a lot of municipal elections.
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And we will fund those elections, the special election at the local level, so that there's
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We're going to do it in the most transparent way that's ever been done here in the state
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So what would you say to institutionalists like me who say that, in fact, we need to support American institutions,
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even when other people are not supporting them, because by walking away from them, we destroy the project?
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I mean, the best of the Roman Republic and Greek democracy, co-equal branches of government,
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a system of checks and balances, popular sovereignty, it's all on the line.
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If Trump is successful in wiring the five votes that he claims he's entitled to,
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or the five seats in Texas and all of these other states, he's not going to stop in Texas.
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You see what he just tried to do to one of the great research institutions in the world that helped create the internet,
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So we have got to, this is about power, yes, but it's also about power pushing back against Trump,
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and it's also about power to call out this rigged election that he's tried to advance
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That's all we're trying to do, neutralize what they're doing in Texas.
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Well, you certainly could make the argument that what you are doing is quite intelligently
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looking at the nation as a whole and California as a piece of that.
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So by protecting the larger institutional system of the checks and balances in the country
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and stopping this extraordinary power grab, that in fact you are supporting those institutions,
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I mean, this is, you know, this is about all of us.
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This is about the United States of America, the implications.
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Everyone listening, the implications are well beyond California.
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It's about, it's as fundamental and foundational as it gets.
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And again, this is the core enduring experiment that we've enjoyed, but can no longer take for
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I mean, the idea that Donald Trump is going to represent this nation on the 250th anniversary,
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We're going to represent, the American people are going to represent the country at the 250th.
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And that reminds me of Justice Hagan's dissent and not dissimilar redistricting issues where
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the power of the government is endowed by the people.
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I'm here at the Democracy Center, and Heather, in that spirit, I remember Justice Brandeis
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said, in a democracy, the most important office is not office of president, certainly not governor,
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The most important office is office of citizen.
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And so this notion of we the people is foundational, and I appreciate that spirit, and I appreciate
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You talked about agency and about how part of what you're doing is trying to remind Americans
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that they do have agency over their government.
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I feel like some of us, we've become victims in so many respects.
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We forget, we're not bystanders in the world, that the future is not just something to experience,
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And I don't, you know, maybe after the pandemic, I started reading a little more Epictetus and
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Marcus Aurelius and Seneca and spent a little time with the Stoics a little bit.
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But it's a reminder, it's not what happens to us.
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It's how we respond to what happens to us that matters.
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That's what citizens, he can't take that away from us.
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He can only take it away if we allow him to take it away from us.
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And I'm very mindful that that's happened in other countries around the world and other
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Well, one of the things that jumped out to me about this declaration of the governor
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of California that he would use the power, the extraordinary power of the state of California,
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which, as you say, has the population of 21 of the smaller states and the fourth largest
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But what really interested me about that in terms of the way we think about American democracy
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in the larger picture is I believe this is the first time in American history where a state
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has called for other states to pressure the national government to change the system for
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And what I mean by that is that generally after World War II, the liberals who wanted the
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government to regulate business and provide a basic social safety net and protect civil
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rights and invest in infrastructure look to the federal government to move states along
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those lines, especially states that had tended to discriminate against their populations.
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And so there's been a tendency for people who cared about those issues.
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And that's not just, by the way, in the 1950s and 60s and 70s, a democratic proposition,
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but an American proposition to look to the federal government.
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But I believe this is the first time that a state has said we will leverage our very strong
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power to force the federal government to stop destroying our democracy.
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I think it's a really big moment, what you have just declared.
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As you're framing it, I'm starting to see it that way.
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Look, I've seen, and Ron Brownstein and others have been writing a lot about this,
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this great divergence that's occurred in this country in the last, I don't know, decade or
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We've seen, as you describe it, you know, from sort of post-World War II frame, this rights
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expansion, this increasing and growing nationalization of rights.
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And now we're seeing that regression state by state.
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I started to see it a number of years ago in a deeper way when I started to reconcile
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the fact that I'm on the receiving end of CRT, DEI, ESG, anything with three letters.
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And we started to see that with Ron DeSantis, in particular Abbott, in many respects, without
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as much fanfare, starting to sort of rewrite history, censor historic facts, what more evidence
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we need with Smithsonian and what's going on there.
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And I started to see it as it relates to curriculum being changed.
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I saw it with books that are being banned, literally, or books, even worse, that are
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being changed, like social studies books, where they're taking the race of Rosa Parks out of
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the book because it's, quote, unquote, too woke as it relates to the history of the civil
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And so this nationalization of rights that now seems to be moving backwards to pre-1960s
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construct, it just occurs to me now, to the extent possible, states can assert themselves
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like California, states that might just be able to punch a little bit above their weight,
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that we can lay a little bit more claim to recognizing this moment in history and push
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back and move back, I think, to our better angels, where we truly are, as Adam Schiff said
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today, you know, sort of marking that sort of infamous MLK frame that, you know, that
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arc of history will ultimately bend towards justice.
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And I just feel like it's getting increasingly out of our grasp, and we've got to pull that
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Well, you did something else very interesting, though, in your speech that speaks to that,
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and that is that really since, well, at least for the last 20 years, and I would push it
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back for 20 before that, there's been a tendency among the rhetoric of the radical right to
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demonize democratic states, especially California and New York, but especially California.
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And you actually took on Texas today, and you also spoke up very powerfully about having
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pride in the things that make California great.
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That, too, I thought was an important rhetorical shift.
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I looked around the room as people were cheering.
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It's the most diverse crowd in the most diverse city, the world's most diverse democracy.
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You know, why is California the fourth largest economy?
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We get first-round draft choices around the rest of the world.
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The best and the brightest come to California, states like California, other large states across
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Lady torch, you know, that Lady Liberty's torch, you know, that life force, as Reagan said.
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That's what the Border Patrol was sitting there trying to disabuse us of.
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I'm not going to, we're not going to let Donald Trump wreck that.
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And I'm not, you know, there's, I'll acknowledge each other.
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There is, there's definitely, I submit Trump derangement syndrome, but there sure as hell
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We have more scientists, engineers, more researchers, more Nobel laureates than any other state in
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Just think about the UC system that he's attacking, 13,800 active patents.
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There's no other university system on planet Earth with more patents.
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You care about innovation and entrepreneurialism.
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You care about dominating the next century and globally and otherwise.
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You sure as hell better care about those institutions.
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All of those are at risk with the rule of dawn.
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And I hope it's dawning on people what's at stake.
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Well, the contrast of ICE being there as you said that, because of course, economists a
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thousand percent bear out exactly what you just said here, was a striking moment.
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It was also, I thought, a very striking moment that Trump and the MAGA Republicans, especially
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I'm thinking of somebody like Stephen Miller right now, the White House deputy chief of staff,
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have made it a point really to talk about how terrible America is, that it's American carnage,
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that there's, you know, who was it, the senator from Oklahoma today, Mark Wayne Mullins,
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said he drives around Washington without a seatbelt because he's afraid he's going to get carjacked.
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More likely to be carjacked in his state than he is in these blue states.
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I'll remind everyone watching, eight of the top ten murder states in America are red states.
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Because you've got, you talk about the Speaker of the House, Johnson, his district has six or eight
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times more murder rate per capita than Nancy Pelosi's.
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Why the hell isn't Trump sending the National Guard in to deal with a carnage in Speaker Johnson's
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It's time we dominate and flood the zone on the narrative.
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A lot of us are swearing a lot more than we used to.
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And in Democrats, I think the biggest problem with our party right now is the sense that we're
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Okay, you said a bunch of things there that I think are really important.
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Agency, offense, and defense of the qualities that have always made America great.
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The last public speech he gave talked about how important immigration was to making America
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stay on the top of its game, constantly innovating, constantly being the best in the world because
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And that he said if we stopped that, we would cease to be America.
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I mean, look, we've had a formula for success in this country.
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For all the challenges, and we have, it goes without saying, we have all these pre-existing
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And they don't know what the hell they're doing.
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And you have all of these people that are complicit, and they're shaking their head.
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And the worst part, Heather, it's some of the wealthiest and most connected people that
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That's why if Harvard does this, they will sell out higher education in this country.
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You have some of the wealthiest business leaders selling out, allowing their companies to be
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We have some people that want to contribute to this campaign.
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They're scared of the retribution from this son of a bitch.
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Let me just explain for people who may not have been following it that, in fact, the
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Trump administration has been exercising really quite unusual control over government
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They've been requiring 15 percent kickbacks on the sale of certain kinds of chips to China
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And there is a real concern that this is a form of state capitalism that looks a lot more
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more like China than it looks like our free labor system.
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But while we're on that topic, though, Governor, what about the your new I think you have a
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very new approach to how you were taking on the Trump administration.
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And I know that I've been reprinting you and certainly a lot of people have been retweeting
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Why did you make the decision to do what you're doing?
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Can you explain it to us and say, you know, where you think it fits in this fight that
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We all have a sell by date and I'm not going to dream of regretting.
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I'm putting out all putting all out of the line.
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And I just I I I I've never been more concerned about this country and for that matter, the
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And and I'm I recognize the power of communication.
00:31:53.380
I realize the power of the narrative we talked about a moment ago, or at least I asserted the
00:32:13.620
And and I, you know, decided a few days ago with the team to to mimic a little bit of
00:32:19.660
the childishness that is Donald Trump and what he puts out on Truth Social in all caps, exclamation,
00:32:28.680
And, you know, I don't know, some refer to it as a parody of sorts, but it's been a potent
00:32:34.940
People are now talking about I'm getting people that never reach out to me that don't care
00:32:42.740
I just want to talk to me about sports or culture saying, hey, wait, I saw your tweet
00:32:48.120
All of a sudden they're paying a little bit more attention and they're maybe paying attention
00:32:51.700
to the childishness that is Donald Trump, that we've allowed him to normalize the way
00:32:58.660
he communicates, talking down to us, talking past us.
00:33:07.000
I'm not trying to claim anything except a willingness to try, a willingness to learn, again, with,
00:33:14.680
as I said, the humility and grace of the moment that it requires.
00:33:18.140
Do you want to tell this audience what you said in response to a question about it at your
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No, I mean, I just I basically reinforce a little bit more succinctly what I just said.
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He's the president of the United States, the president of the United States of America.
00:33:38.980
Uh, and he's sitting there at one, two in the morning with all caps.
00:33:48.400
I don't know how many more I'll have of, uh, of those tweets, but if you haven't checked
00:33:55.500
So I believe you said, if you have a problem with my tweets, you sure should have a problem
00:34:00.600
with the president of the United States making those tweets.
00:34:04.600
I mean, I got kids and I got, we have a whole generation of people who thinks this is normal.
00:34:14.220
And that's a big part of what we're also pushing back against.
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Please, please, please, please pay attention to what's going on.
00:34:21.700
Have you ever looked at a piece of abstract art or music or poetry and thought, that's
00:34:31.380
Well, that's exactly what two bored Australian soldiers set out to prove during World War
00:34:35.860
II when they pulled off what was either a bold literary hoax or a grand poetic experiment,
00:34:41.420
publishing over a dozen intentionally bad but highly acclaimed works of expressionist poetry
00:34:46.480
under the name Urn Malley in an incident that caused a media firestorm and even a criminal
00:34:53.080
The Urn Malley episode made fools of believers and critics alike and still fascinates poetry
00:34:59.580
We break down the truth, the lies, and the poetry in between on Hoax, a new podcast hosted
00:35:07.440
Every episode, Hoax explores an audacious fraud or ruse from history, from forged artworks
00:35:13.740
to the original fake news, to try and answer why we believe.
00:35:17.900
Listen to Hoax on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
00:35:28.120
You may know me as an NCAA national champion and recent most outstanding player.
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But now, you're also going to know me as your favorite host.
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Every week on my new podcast, FUD Around and Find Out, I'll give you an inside look
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00:35:46.160
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What women said something like, you know, 99.99% of war is diarrhea and 1% is gory.
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Those founding fathers were gossipy AF and they love to cut each other down.
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I'm Bob Crawford, host of American History Hotline, the show where you send us your questions
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about American history and I find the answers, including the nuggets of wisdom our history
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Hamilton pauses and then he says, the greatest man that ever lived was Julius Caesar.
00:37:00.140
And Jefferson writes in his diary, this proves that Hamilton is for a dictator based on corruption.
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My favorite line was what Neil Armstrong said, it would have been harder to fake it than
00:37:13.100
Listen to American History Hotline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your
00:37:23.900
I'm Dr. Joy Harden-Bradford, and in session 421 of Therapy for Black Girls, I sit down with
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Dr. Afia and Billy Shaka to explore how our hair connects to our identity, mental health,
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Because I think hair is a complex language system, right?
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In terms of it can tell how old you are, your marital status, where you're from, your
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But I think with social media, there's like a hyper fixation and observation of our hair,
00:37:52.380
That this is sometimes the first thing someone sees when we make a post or a reel is how our
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We talk about the important role hairstylists play in our communities, the pressure to always
00:38:03.540
look put together, and how breaking up with perfection can actually free us.
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Plus, if you're someone who gets anxious about flying, don't miss session 418 with Dr. Angela
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Neal Barnett, where we dive into managing flight anxiety.
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Your beloved brother goes missing without a trace.
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And these are just a few of the profound and powerful stories I'll be mining on our 12th season
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With over 37 million downloads, we continue to be moved and inspired by our guests and their
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I can't wait to share 10 powerful new episodes with you.
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Stories of tangled up identities, concealed truths, and the way in which Family Secrets
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I hope you'll join me and my extraordinary guests for this new season of Family Secrets.
00:39:15.980
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00:39:26.880
So I have just two very quick questions for you.
00:39:29.760
One is, I'm not going to ask you how you think Trump will respond, because we don't know.
00:39:34.180
That's one of the reasons we sort of have to take it on a moment-by-moment basis.
00:39:37.880
But do you have a series of plans in place depending on how he responds to this?
00:39:52.460
That's, I mean, that's an Orban, you know, turkey playbook.
00:39:57.220
I mean, that was just, you know, that was, you know, that's, as I said, weakness masquerading
00:40:03.160
But again, it was a master class of making our point, not his point.
00:40:14.720
He said, well, because he was elected governor.
00:40:23.880
He's, you know, he's trying to wreck the only high-speed rail system in the Western
00:40:27.180
He's trying to go after us as it relates to institutions of higher learning.
00:40:30.600
Any independent, any place that cultivates independent thinking, Donald Trump is going
00:40:37.960
Any institution that cultivates independent thinking.
00:40:45.040
Not just California, not just Californians, not just elected officials.
00:40:49.860
The 15-year-old that had a gun pulled to his head, who's disabled, trying to go to school
00:40:57.480
The rest of his life, he's going to have that image of a gun that was put to his head
00:41:03.820
So that's, what the hell do we need to sober up?
00:41:13.780
You've talked about new things, new ways to approach the protection of democracy.
00:41:20.560
What should the American people be doing to support the Democratic project right now?
00:41:29.600
The popularity of this administration, you know, is in the toilet.
00:41:33.960
The people who support Project 2024, about 4% of Americans support it when they know what
00:41:39.740
What should people be doing to support the protection of American democracy?
00:41:51.220
What he's trying to do, the shock and awe is trying to just, just, just weight us down,
00:42:00.720
And as a consequence, we just sort of stand back and step down and just get lost in, you
00:42:12.280
know, we can't allow him to allow us to fall prey to cynicism and fear.
00:42:18.240
And I want everyone listening to know they're the antidote to that cynicism and fear.
00:42:23.060
The fact that you're even watching this, if you are, even if you came here because you
00:42:26.540
can't stand me, you're the antidote to that cynicism and fear.
00:42:50.680
We all want to be protected, connected, and respected.
00:42:53.040
Have that in your heart, but be accountable by exercising your voice.
00:43:02.560
I wasn't sure how that was going, the big 250th anniversary, big birthday bash.
00:43:24.140
The fact that we've even gotten this far with the legislature and with our congressional.
00:43:36.420
Just as a guy who's the ex-governor of California.
00:43:39.600
A guy who's trying to raise four kids just to be decent people.
00:43:42.480
I don't care if they're Democrats or Republicans.
00:43:45.920
And I want them to have the privileges that all of us have, the freedoms, the liberties,
00:43:54.080
And those things you can't take for granted anymore.
00:44:05.720
Best of luck to you and best of luck with this project.
00:44:15.380
Have you ever looked at a piece of abstract art or music or poetry and thought,
00:44:22.500
That's exactly what two bored Australian soldiers set out to prove during World War II
00:44:26.860
when they tricked the literary world with their intentionally bad poetry,
00:44:32.280
We break down the truth, the lies, and the poetry in between on Hoax,
00:44:39.820
Every episode, Hoax explores an audacious fraud or ruse from history.
00:44:44.480
Listen to Hoax on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
00:45:00.300
Every week on my new podcast, Fudd Around and Find Out,
00:45:03.340
I'll be talking to some special guests about pop culture, basketball,
00:45:06.860
and what it's like to be a professional athlete on and off the court.
00:45:11.840
a production of iHeart Women's Sports in partnership with Unanimous Media
00:45:15.140
on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
00:45:21.520
Every case that is a cold case that has DNA right now in a backlog
00:45:30.340
every case has a story to tell, and the DNA holds the truth.
00:45:40.480
This technology's already solving so many cases.
00:45:44.280
Listen to America's Crime Lab on the iHeartRadio app,
00:45:47.740
Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
00:45:51.400
What would you do if one bad decision forced you to choose
00:45:56.840
or the most brutal boot camp designed to be hell on earth?
00:46:00.900
Unfortunately for Mark Lombardo, this was the choice he faced.
00:46:04.500
He said, you are a number, a New York State number, and we own you.
00:46:10.560
Listen to Shock Incarceration on the iHeartRadio app,
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Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
00:46:17.060
I'm Bob Crawford, host of American History Hotline,
00:46:30.560
Did George Washington really cut down a cherry tree?
00:46:40.460
You can listen to American History Hotline on the iHeartRadio app,
00:46:45.280
Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.