This is Gavin Newsom - And, This Is Trump's Shutdown With Senator Chris Murphy

00:00:00.000 Totalitarianism and monopoly go hand in hand. Don't make the healthcare system any worse. 0.97

00:00:04.380 Don't jack up premiums of people by 75% and don't act lawlessly. History tells us that when the

00:00:09.940 people stand up, something magical happens. I don't need to remind everybody that the

00:00:14.360 government is shut down, but we are not shut out from getting a deeper understanding of what's

00:00:20.320 going on in Washington, D.C. because we have one of the most prominent democratic voices,

00:00:26.300 someone who has been a fierce defender of democracy and free speech, who is one of the

00:00:32.300 leaders in the resistance against Trump and Trumpism that can unpack and unveil what's

00:00:37.640 going on with healthcare in this country, what's going on in terms of negotiation with the government

00:00:42.100 shutdown, but also broaden the aperture to what's going on in American cities with the increasing

00:00:47.820 militarization with our National Guard and what's happening to the state of our democracy.

00:00:56.300 This is Gavin Newsom. This is Senator Chris Murphy. This is an iHeart Podcast.

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00:03:11.760 Basically, your stay-at-home moms were picking up these large amounts of heroin. 1.00

00:03:15.440 All you got to do is receive the package. Don't have to open it. Just accept it.

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00:04:02.140 Senator Murphy, it's great that you took the time to be with us today.

00:04:06.900 I continue to make this point behind your back anytime I'm asked.

00:04:10.600 They said, who do you admire out there in the Democratic Party?

00:04:14.400 Who, from your perspective, particularly in Washington, D.C., stands out?

00:04:18.340 And every single time, first name comes out of my mouth is you, sir.

00:04:22.880 And so I'm grateful for this opportunity to check in and check up on what's going on in this country, including just what happened as we were taping this just an hour or so ago.

00:04:33.640 Pam Bondi, the Attorney General of the United States, at an oversight hearing that sounded more like cross-examination coming from Pam Bondi doing op research on Democratic senators.

00:04:46.600 What was your reflection of that?

00:04:49.000 Well, Governor Austin, to be with you, man, the compliment is turn straight back around.

00:04:55.180 What you're doing out in California is absolutely essential.

00:04:57.940 People need to feel like we are powerful, not powerless right now.

00:05:01.940 And you're delivering people that sensation that there are still things we can do to save our democracy.

00:05:06.600 Yeah, I mean, I watched some clips of that hearing.

00:05:09.880 She acts like somebody who works for a guy who believes he's a king, right, believes that they're accountable to no one.

00:05:16.680 She clearly showed zero deference for the United States Congress and Senate.

00:05:21.820 That's probably understandable given her combative boss and how much she wants folks out there making news and creating viral clips. 1.00

00:05:32.200 But, you know, it just is representative of the way the entire administration operates.

00:05:37.660 They're not bound by the law.

00:05:38.980 They're not bound by the Constitution.

00:05:40.220 They don't believe they're accountable to the people.

00:05:42.900 They certainly don't believe they're accountable to the Senate.

00:05:45.180 And I think that's wearing thin on folks.

00:05:48.680 You know, 80 percent of Americans now say that we're in the middle of a political crisis.

00:05:52.920 More than 50 percent of the country is worried about losing their right to free speech in the short term.

00:05:57.900 So I don't think she does her boss any favors by, you know, acting so childish, representing the Department of Justice in front of the United States Senate.

00:06:08.200 I don't know if you think differently.

00:06:09.460 You know, it's interesting.

00:06:11.180 And I want to unpack that because I think the point you're making is an important point about how, quote unquote, unpopular so many of the positions, not just the president's overall popularity itself, but a lot of the positions he has been promoting, including members of his own administration.

00:06:26.860 But I wonder if just in the administration of oversight, did you reflect on that and reflect on the fact that Democrats may need to change their tactics in terms of how they even begin to, you know, prepare for subsequent oversight hearings?

00:06:42.880 Yeah, I mean, these hearings are becoming jokes because she's not even attempting to answer these questions. 0.59

00:06:51.680 You know, when we send basic oversight letters to these agencies to ask questions about how they're spending money, they never, ever respond.

00:07:01.140 And so, yeah, I do think you need to understand that right now they perceive these hearings to be reality TV shows and you're unfortunately, whether you like it or not, going to have to approach the hearings in that way.

00:07:16.060 But I also think, Governor, you know, that we've got to make clear that the oversight here, especially when it comes to the illegality, is permanent, right?

00:07:25.940 Because someday Democrats are going to be back in charge of the House and the Senate.

00:07:30.720 Someday we're going to have the power of subpoenas.

00:07:32.520 Someday there's going to be people in the Department of Justice who actually want to administer the law on its face.

00:07:38.600 And so I just think we're going to need to say to these folks, you know, save your records, because if any of you have committed actual real illegality, you know, you are ultimately going to have to be held accountable for that, either by being hauled before Congress and be forced to swear in and tell the truth and be held accountable for perjury or before a court of law.

00:08:02.180 So the oversight is going to be much more real and much more forceful when Democrats are back in charge.

00:08:10.560 And we'll get to getting back in charge, talk a little bit about redistricting in 2026, particularly as it relates to not just the Senate, but obviously the House.

00:08:18.900 But first, I want to sort of paint the picture of where we are today, where we're now this government shutdown.

00:08:25.660 We haven't broken any records, but we're not necessarily breaking any new ground in terms of breakthroughs.

00:08:30.180 Based upon at least what I'm reading and understanding and hearing as it relates to the prospects of a deal.

00:08:38.580 Where do you think things stand at this stage and how do you think we have positioned ourselves, the Democratic Party, and how do you think we get out on the other side?

00:08:48.420 Well, I mean, I think it's, first of all, important to understand that, you know, Trump is rooting for a shutdown because he does believe that he has these extraordinary powers.

00:09:00.380 He's come to believe that those powers get bigger in a shutdown.

00:09:03.360 That's not true.

00:09:05.160 He also roots for chaos.

00:09:06.920 And the fact of the matter is there's more chaos when the government is shut down.

00:09:11.560 And cruelty is the point to this administration.

00:09:14.160 And things get crueler when Head Start centers don't open and federal employees don't get their paycheck.

00:09:22.100 But what Democrats' priorities are here are pretty damn reasonable.

00:09:27.420 What are we asking for?

00:09:28.960 We're saying, listen, the health care system isn't fair and it's a mess.

00:09:33.960 We just don't want it to get worse this fall when premiums are scheduled to increase on people who have Affordable Care Act plans by 75%, 100%.

00:09:43.920 So let's just make sure that those premium increases don't go into effect.

00:09:47.300 And then second, let's make sure that if we write a budget that says you have to spend money in all 50 states, the president is actually required to spend money in all 50 states instead of not spending money in places like California and New York and Connecticut that are represented by Democrats and spending money in states represented by Republicans.

00:10:02.420 So, I mean, our asks are pretty minimalist.

00:10:04.940 Just don't make the health care system any worse.

00:10:07.520 Don't jack up premiums on people by 75% and don't act lawlessly.

00:10:12.960 If we get those two things included in this budget, then I think you're going to see Democratic votes.

00:10:18.220 And I think increasingly the American public are sort of beginning to see that, you know, what we're asking for is pretty damn popular and not terribly piggish. 0.84

00:10:26.140 And it seems to have been reflected in the president's own comments where it seemed at least politically attuned to the popularity of health care and the imperative to actually figure this out, suggesting that he's, quote unquote, a Republican but likes health care and thinks he can, quote unquote, make a deal.

00:10:45.100 But it doesn't seem to me there's any substantive conversations or are there substantive conversations being held?

00:10:51.520 There are not. And the clearest evidence of how unserious Republicans are about negotiating is the fact that they're not here.

00:11:00.500 So the House of Representatives is not in session.

00:11:04.100 This is the third week that they've been on kind of an unscheduled recess.

00:11:08.820 You know, part of that is that they don't really want to negotiate a way out of the shutdown.

00:11:12.220 Part of that, we can talk about it, is that they're about to vote on the Epstein resolution.

00:11:19.020 And the minute they come back into session, a new Democrat will be sworn in, giving them the magic number of votes on a resolution that would force a debate and vote on the Epstein resolution.

00:11:31.300 But no, there are no real negotiations happening right now.

00:11:35.780 But, you know, those premium increases are getting closer and closer and closer.

00:11:39.920 And as more Americans get their notices that they're about to see a $5,000, $10,000 increase in premiums, the pressure is going to mount on Republicans to come to the table and reopen the government while also making sure that people don't get hurt from a health care perspective.

00:11:55.780 And, I mean, you know the real-world consequences here.

00:11:58.500 We're not talking about numbers.

00:11:59.720 This isn't about politics.

00:12:00.960 This is, you know, people who are going to have to make a really hard decision about whether to keep their health care or let it lapse and potentially face bankruptcy or pay the increased premium and just, you know, have their kids go without lunch three days a week or just not have Christmas presents under the tree this winter.

00:12:18.920 I mean, there are real consequences to these premiums spiking for middle-class families all across the country.

00:12:24.840 Yeah, I think, I mean, the magnitude of those premium increases are pretty jaw-dropping.

00:12:30.580 We just put out in California, which, of course, we provide more coverage than any other state just by the dairy nature and size and scope and scale of our state.

00:12:39.120 But we have very familiar here on the exchange in California what they call the Bronze Plan, which is the middle plan for folks, and Anthem.

00:12:47.440 And you've got premiums that will go from $307 to $964 a month.

00:12:54.180 I mean, so it's on average, we talk about the aggregate, but people will see tripling in some cases, up to 388% and an average of 97% of those increases.

00:13:05.120 And we expect 600,000 people to lose insurance because they can't afford it in California.

00:13:09.740 And I know we're talking four-plus million across the United States.

00:13:14.040 So I appreciate the painting of that picture with clarity and sticking to two easy issues to understand, congressionally approved appropriations.

00:13:24.280 Congress, the purse, here's where money, we both approved the legislative and executive branch where it needs to go. 0.85

00:13:31.040 And the president shouldn't unilaterally change that course, that commitment, that direction, and health care.

00:13:37.560 But I'm curious if I could just step back, Senator.

00:13:40.480 What was, without breaking confidence, but I'm curious, the Democratic Caucus, the determination last time not to move forward with a government shutdown,

00:13:52.580 lessons learned, the expectation that you needed to prepare for this moment, particularly with someone, as you suggest,

00:14:01.100 that was more interested in golfing before the shutdown and obviously had no interest in meeting with the leaders because he canceled that first meeting.

00:14:07.780 And then in that last meeting, just trolled those leaders in the Oval Office with a 2028 Trump hat.

00:14:13.840 He was never serious, to your point, about negotiating.

00:14:16.780 But knowing that, what was the journey since the last time we decided to continue to allow government to stay open to the determination this time to get a little bit tougher in terms of the approach?

00:14:30.000 Yeah.

00:14:30.200 You know, we have so few moments of leverage, moments where we have power as a minority, right?

00:14:36.640 Republicans, whether we like it or not, they run the White House, the House, and the Senate.

00:14:42.240 And so when they do need our votes, I mean, it's really our moral responsibility on behalf of the people we represent to stand up for things we believe in.

00:14:51.460 You know, not to, you know, be Pollyannish about what we're ultimately going to get, but to stand up for a few things that will help people.

00:14:58.480 You know, I disagreed with the decision back in the fall to vote for a budget that was essentially written only by Republicans that didn't solve any of the problems that they were in the midst of creating.

00:15:10.780 But, you know, a few things are different that I think, you know, allows Democrats to be right now really united around using our leverage.

00:15:20.340 You know, one, you know, people see Trump, I think, more clearly now than they did back then as approval ratings are, you know, 10 points lower.

00:15:27.000 Two, the pain is, you know, more real now that that big, beautiful bill has passed.

00:15:31.720 You know, premiums are about to go up on millions of Americans, so the pain is acute right now in a way that maybe it wasn't in March.

00:15:40.680 And then, you know, back in March, I think there were a lot of folks who were worried about his attacks on democracy, but maybe were sort of hoping for the best case.

00:15:48.220 Now they see that we are in the middle of a totalitarian takeover if it's not arrested, if it's not stopped.

00:15:55.840 They are trying to rig the rules, and thank goodness for you and what you're doing in California.

00:16:00.680 And, you know, they are trying to, you know, create a state-run media.

00:16:04.040 They are trying to use the Department of Justice to suppress dissent and lock up their critics.

00:16:09.140 So, you know, that level of alarm is much higher.

00:16:12.060 And I just think, you know, it's not just Democrats who want us to fight and draw a line.

00:16:17.880 You know, it's a big part of the middle of the country, too.

00:16:20.300 So the demand for us to show power, I just think, is a lot more amplified today than it was back in the spring,

00:16:29.100 which is also why so many people all around this country, left, middle, and center, are cheering what you're doing to show that we are not powerless against his efforts to try to rig the rules.

00:16:42.200 So where do you see, I mean, is this, are we looking at another week, two, month?

00:16:46.760 I mean, you're going to be back at this in six and a half weeks or six weeks.

00:16:50.480 Isn't there another sort of date with destiny in terms of just extending this narrative even?

00:16:56.920 I know we're talking about this continuing resolution, seven weeks, but that just gets us to another point where we're going to have another potential shutdown.

00:17:05.260 I mean, is this the bond markets that ultimately we're going to determine that we're going to break this chill?

00:17:11.280 Is it the stock market that ultimately is going to force everybody to come to the table?

00:17:16.800 What's your gut?

00:17:17.880 Yeah, I mean, my gut is that Republicans are already starting to sweat a little bit.

00:17:26.480 Something interesting happened just about 10 minutes ago.

00:17:29.400 So we had our lunches today.

00:17:31.540 The Republicans all huddled for lunch.

00:17:33.140 Democrats all huddled for lunch.

00:17:35.640 And the Republicans came out of their lunch with a brand new message, one that we hadn't heard before.

00:17:40.920 Their message today was, well, Democrats have this big protest coming up.

00:17:45.040 This is the No Kings rally on October 18th.

00:17:48.840 And so they want to keep the government shut down until the No Kings rally, which I'd never heard from them before.

00:17:56.240 They clearly knew that what they were saying yesterday wasn't working and they're scrambling to come up with some new message.

00:18:03.840 And I think it's just all a sign, Governor, that, you know, they are feeling the heat because they're getting more and more calls and emails from constituents who are like, hey, what the hell are you going to do about this 75 percent increase?

00:18:16.060 So my guess, if I had to, like, put money on it today, is that this isn't another month that Republicans come to the table sometime soon and say, listen, help us help ourselves.

00:18:29.940 Let's get rid of these premium increases.

00:18:31.800 And listen, that would help a lot of people.

00:18:34.000 And it would show, you know, for the first time all year that, you know, the Democratic Party has fight and has relevance.

00:18:40.700 Interesting.

00:18:40.980 Well, I love the optimism.

00:18:42.000 I mean, it would be a hell of a victory for millions and millions of Democrats, Republicans, independents.

00:18:48.160 To your point, there's 20 plus million people that are directly impacted, millions more indirectly impacted.

00:18:53.820 It's not Democrats or Republicans.

00:18:56.060 These are Americans.

00:18:57.300 And and that would be that would be extraordinary outcome.

00:19:03.620 All I know is what I've been told.

00:19:06.220 And that's a half truth is a whole lie.

00:19:08.360 For almost a decade, the murder of an 18 year old girl from a small town in Graves County, Kentucky, went unsolved until a local homemaker, a journalist and a handful of girls came forward with a story.

00:19:24.560 I'm telling you, we know Quincy killed her.

00:19:27.440 We know.

00:19:28.180 A story that law enforcement used to convict six people and that got the Citizen Investigator on national TV.

00:19:35.800 Through sheer persistence and nerve, this Kentucky housewife helped give justice to Jessica Curran. 1.00

00:19:43.160 My name is Maggie Freeling.

00:19:44.940 I'm a Pulitzer Prize winning journalist, producer.

00:19:48.200 And I wouldn't be here if the truth were that easy to find.

00:19:53.600 I did not know her and I did not kill her or rape or burn or any of that other stuff that y'all said.

00:19:58.580 They literally made me say that I took a match and struck and threw it on her.

00:20:02.500 They made me say that I poured gas on her. 1.00

00:20:04.720 From Lava for Good, this is Graves County, a show about just how far our legal system will go in order to find someone to blame.

00:20:17.260 America, y'all better work the hell up. 1.00

00:20:19.420 Bad things happens to good people in small towns.

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00:20:39.660 I'm Jonathan Goldstein, and on the new season of Heavyweight, I help a centenarian mend a broken heart.

00:20:53.940 How can a 101-year-old woman fall in love again? 0.71

00:21:00.440 And I help a man atone for an armed robbery he committed at 14 years old.

00:21:06.800 And so I pointed the gun at him and said, this isn't a joke.

00:21:11.880 And he got down, and I remember feeling kind of a surge of like, okay, this is power.

00:21:16.620 Plus, my old friend Gregor and his brother try to solve my problems through hypnotism.

00:21:22.320 We could give you a whole brand new thing where you're like super charming all the time.

00:21:25.740 Being more able to look people in the eye.

00:21:27.560 Not always hide behind a microphone.

00:21:30.300 Listen to Heavyweight on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

00:21:41.300 Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, host of the On Purpose podcast.

00:21:44.780 I had the incredible opportunity to sit down with the one, the only, Cardi B.

00:21:49.580 My marriage, I felt the love dying.

00:21:52.200 I was crying every day.

00:21:53.300 I fell in the deepest depression that I had ever had.

00:21:59.960 How do you think you're misunderstood?

00:22:01.520 I'm not this evil, mean person that people think that I am.

00:22:04.700 I'm too compassionate.

00:22:06.060 I have sympathy for that my man.

00:22:10.680 You put so much heart and soul into your work.

00:22:13.560 What's the hardest part for you to take that criticism?

00:22:16.180 This was not given to me.

00:22:18.140 I worked my ass off for me.

00:22:20.660 Even when I was a stripper, I'm going to be the best pole dancer in here. 1.00

00:22:24.380 When was the moment you felt I did it?

00:22:26.180 I still to this day don't feel comfortable.

00:22:27.980 I fight every day to keep this level of success because people want to take it from you so bad.

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00:22:41.280 In early 1988, federal agents raced to track down the gang they suspect of importing millions of dollars worth of heroin into New York from Asia.

00:22:53.780 We had 30 agents ready to go with shotguns and rifles and you name it.

00:22:59.740 But what they find is not what they expected.

00:23:03.440 Basically, your stay-at-home moms were picking up these large amounts of heroin. 1.00

00:23:06.840 They go, is this your daughter?

00:23:09.040 I said, yes.

00:23:09.920 They go, oh, you may not see her for like 25 years.

00:23:16.660 Caught between a federal investigation and the violent gang who recruited them,

00:23:21.760 the women must decide who they're willing to protect and who they dare to betray. 1.00

00:23:28.040 Once I saw the gun, I tried to take his hand and I saw the flash of light.

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00:24:41.900 Let me ask you just, you know, in terms of, you've used the word totalitarian.

00:24:47.460 We started as it relates to the oversight conversation about, used the word kings,

00:24:51.740 not just in relationship to the October 18th known kings rally.

00:24:55.420 I mean, I remember the old Chris Murphy that, you know, that was the bipartisan,

00:24:59.780 you know, working across the aisle, actually producing real results.

00:25:03.020 You know, I'm old enough to remember the most significant, at least in my lifetime,

00:25:07.960 30 plus years, Safer Communities Act, the work you did, mental health and gun safety in a bipartisan way.

00:25:14.260 But I've noticed much more, well, I don't want to say strident,

00:25:18.700 but I see a Democrat who's leading the resistance that has more clarity on free speech,

00:25:24.500 in terms of more conviction, perhaps, and expression around it, as well as democracy,

00:25:29.140 and using language that I understand that I think is very resonant.

00:25:32.580 I'm curious, your own evolution in that respect,

00:25:35.600 and was there a moment that sort of hit you where you said,

00:25:39.180 boy, I'm going to dial things up a little bit?

00:25:42.260 Well, I mean, I appreciate that coming from you,

00:25:44.640 because we have also watched you at a moment where this party has been desperate for leadership,

00:25:52.780 bold leadership.

00:25:53.980 We've seen you step out and, frankly, take risks,

00:25:58.640 which is what I think this country is desperate for us to do,

00:26:02.980 to show that we understand the gravity of this moment

00:26:05.920 and show that we are willing to take risks on behalf of saving the democracy.

00:26:09.760 And Prop 50 is a risk, right?

00:26:12.500 Not destined to succeed, but can and will if we put our work behind it.

00:26:17.840 So I appreciate you saying that.

00:26:19.980 Yeah, listen, I just see these guys.

00:26:21.580 And I saw these guys early.

00:26:24.680 They are not Democrats, small d.

00:26:27.200 You know, inside the Republican Party,

00:26:29.080 they have come to believe over the last four years

00:26:31.760 that democracy is just not worth it any longer if it elects Democrats.

00:26:35.420 They have come to believe that, you know,

00:26:37.740 our support for multiculturalism and civil rights and human rights and feminism

00:26:43.500 is, you know, an assault on the very idea of Americanism.

00:26:48.540 And their version of Americanism is a Christian, white, male-dominated America. 0.95

00:26:55.020 So they want to get rid of us at any cost.

00:26:58.060 And if that cost is the erasure or the weakening of democracy,

00:27:01.820 then they're willing to live with that.

00:27:03.580 So to me, this is all a plan.

00:27:06.780 I mean, a really well-thought-out plan to capture the media,

00:27:11.420 to use the DOJ to witch hunt, to rig the rules,

00:27:16.120 to change the facts as an attempt to just try to suffocate the opposition

00:27:25.020 so that we don't have enough room to operate.

00:27:27.140 And the last thing I'll say is that, you know,

00:27:29.520 I think some people say, well, as long as there's, you know,

00:27:32.240 no cancellation of elections, we're in good shape.

00:27:35.320 Well, I don't think they're canceling the elections.

00:27:37.200 I think they're just going to, you know,

00:27:38.700 do what they've done in Turkey and Hungary and other countries like that,

00:27:42.380 where the opposition party still exists,

00:27:44.720 but they just, you know, don't have enough space to operate

00:27:48.020 or the rules are changed, like the shape of districts,

00:27:51.380 so that even if the president is wildly unpopular, we can't win.

00:27:54.600 I just see these guys, and I know it sounds extreme to suggest

00:27:58.820 that Republicans are actually trying to engineer

00:28:01.000 an erosion or a destruction of our democracy,

00:28:04.440 and I don't think every Republican believes that.

00:28:07.060 There's still a lot of Republicans in the Senate

00:28:08.680 who want to protect democracy,

00:28:10.580 but there are some real radicals inside the White House

00:28:14.800 who do have plans to convert America 0.88

00:28:17.160 to something different than liberal democracy,

00:28:19.400 and I just think we have to see it and understand it

00:28:22.120 so that we recognize, as you are,

00:28:24.460 you know, how loud our fight has to be.

00:28:26.980 How do we overstate or do we understate the influence

00:28:31.640 of the OMB director, Russ Vogt?

00:28:34.940 I mean, I think he's just, you know, one of many in that White House

00:28:39.100 who's, you know, operationalizing this plan

00:28:42.480 to, you know, constrict the space that the opposition has to operate.

00:28:47.780 I mean, what he's doing recently is another tried-and-true tactic

00:28:50.880 of would-be authoritarians.

00:28:52.780 He's, you know, pausing funding for Democratic states,

00:28:56.940 and he's, you know, hoping that Democrats will essentially bend

00:29:01.560 or self-censor themselves so that they get their money turned back on.

00:29:06.420 It wasn't lost on any of us in the Democratic caucus

00:29:08.440 that when they canceled a whole bunch of energy projects,

00:29:12.080 one of the states that was exempted was Nevada.

00:29:15.860 One of the two Democratic senators from Nevada

00:29:18.120 voted for Trump's continuing resolution.

00:29:20.640 So it was a very clear signal.

00:29:22.220 If you vote with me as a Democrat, your money will continue.

00:29:24.740 If you don't vote with me, the money's turned off.

00:29:26.440 So, you know, I just think he's playing his role,

00:29:31.060 but I tend to think that it's more, you know,

00:29:34.100 Stephen Miller and that crowd out of the White House

00:29:36.460 that's orchestrating a lot of the day-to-day operations

00:29:39.900 of trying to undermine our Democratic norms.

00:29:43.060 And those Democratic norms now include the militarization of American cities.

00:29:48.240 We saw that, obviously, firsthand here in California,

00:29:50.980 not just with the federalization of the National Guard,

00:29:53.600 thousands and thousands, but 700 active-duty Marines

00:29:57.180 that were sent to a U.S. city.

00:29:59.580 We said it at the time, this is a preview of things to come.

00:30:02.420 Obviously, Washington, D.C. has its own criteria and conditions,

00:30:05.720 but clearly takes shape there,

00:30:07.760 and now taking shape in cities large and small, Portland,

00:30:12.000 attempting to militarize those streets

00:30:14.980 with a federal judge appointed by Trump

00:30:16.880 who correctly has put a pause.

00:30:20.480 But that's not necessarily the case,

00:30:22.640 and you brought up Stephen Miller

00:30:23.800 with what he's been able to effectuate in the city of Chicago.

00:30:28.900 Give us your sense of that trend line that's growing headline now

00:30:33.440 and where you think things may go

00:30:36.640 if we're not successful in pushing back.

00:30:39.720 Well, it's incredibly dangerous,

00:30:41.300 and I do think you have to put it in this broader context.

00:30:45.140 You know, at the same time that they are sending our troops

00:30:47.340 into Portland and Chicago,

00:30:48.920 they are also getting ready a campaign

00:30:52.040 to crack down on what they term,

00:30:56.140 you know, far-left terrorist groups.

00:30:59.200 But that list may include indivisible and move on.

00:31:04.720 Just basic, run-of-the-mill, progressive activist groups

00:31:09.040 may all of a sudden be targeted

00:31:11.060 by the Department of Justice or by the IRS.

00:31:14.440 And so what they are doing is using the military,

00:31:19.360 using the Department of Justice, using the IRS

00:31:21.380 to try to convince people

00:31:23.580 that you're just better off staying on the sidelines, right?

00:31:26.280 I mean, we'd be naive to think that troops in your city

00:31:30.680 doesn't have an impact on people's willingness

00:31:33.140 to show up and protest.

00:31:35.240 We'd be naive to think that the threat of IRS action

00:31:37.920 against your not-for-profit chills your interest

00:31:40.200 to speak truth to power,

00:31:41.840 say what you think is true

00:31:43.180 about the immorality of this administration.

00:31:45.880 So again, I think it's part of this big, broader plan.

00:31:51.140 And again, it just raises the stakes on this budget fight

00:31:53.920 because, yeah, I want to get people's health care saved,

00:31:56.560 but I also have no moral obligation

00:31:58.460 to vote for a budget that funds the destruction

00:32:00.500 of our democracy, that funds those operations

00:32:02.660 at the Department of Defense,

00:32:05.460 at the Department of Revenue,

00:32:07.360 at the Internal Revenue Service.

00:32:09.500 So that's why this budget has to be,

00:32:11.260 you know, not just good for our health care system,

00:32:13.020 but good for our democracy too.

00:32:14.960 What do you make of, you know,

00:32:16.980 in that big, beautiful bill,

00:32:19.020 as they describe it,

00:32:20.000 the ability now for ICE to increase its ranks

00:32:23.460 by upwards of 10,000 personnel,

00:32:25.560 which would make it the largest domestic police force

00:32:28.260 anywhere in the world.

00:32:29.320 And increasingly, it seems pretty obvious

00:32:31.920 to anyone paying attention,

00:32:33.380 a political domestic police force

00:32:35.700 that appears not to be as committed

00:32:38.720 to an oath to the Constitution,

00:32:40.700 but the oath to the president himself,

00:32:42.780 at least how it's played out in my state.

00:32:45.320 What do you make of what's happening there,

00:32:48.380 not just with the federalization of the Guard

00:32:50.880 and the militarization of American cities,

00:32:53.660 but with ICE, with border patrol,

00:32:57.500 masked men disproportionately out in the streets,

00:33:01.580 sidewalks, parks, playgrounds,

00:33:03.360 in and around churches, schools, courthouses?

00:33:06.160 You know, I'd say two things.

00:33:08.480 And again, you know,

00:33:10.360 I think you have better than anybody else

00:33:13.020 called out the moral consequences

00:33:16.200 of a private police force

00:33:21.040 loyal to the president

00:33:23.220 and not necessarily the rule of law

00:33:25.980 doing violence to our neighbors

00:33:28.380 without regard on most days

00:33:30.500 as to whether those neighbors

00:33:31.640 have committed a crime or not.

00:33:33.560 But, you know, one,

00:33:36.560 I think it's really important to understand

00:33:40.820 that this isn't popular.

00:33:43.080 And Democrats, you know,

00:33:44.080 have been really reluctant

00:33:45.120 to talk about anything connected to immigration.

00:33:48.500 Yeah, I think the Democratic Party

00:33:49.700 should get, you know,

00:33:50.820 stronger on a message of a secure border.

00:33:53.640 But I also think that, you know,

00:33:56.280 folks really don't like what's happening now.

00:33:58.340 And we don't appear to folks

00:34:00.460 as a legitimate opposition

00:34:01.640 if we're remaining silent.

00:34:03.720 So folks want a secure border,

00:34:06.100 but they also don't want ICE

00:34:08.520 going after immigrants 1.00

00:34:10.900 who are, you know,

00:34:12.000 basically playing by the rules

00:34:13.700 and having committed no violent offenses.

00:34:17.560 So I think that that's really,

00:34:20.080 really important to understand

00:34:22.380 that we've got to talk about what's happening

00:34:24.440 and that the people will be with us.

00:34:27.600 Do you think, I mean,

00:34:28.860 one of the things that I appreciate,

00:34:30.760 many things that I appreciate about you

00:34:32.640 is your willingness to do your own forensics,

00:34:36.020 your own analysis on what went right,

00:34:38.920 what went wrong in the last election.

00:34:41.180 But you broadened it.

00:34:42.680 You wrote one, I think the best,

00:34:44.520 maybe the best piece, quite literally,

00:34:46.540 that I've read,

00:34:49.020 looking back at where our party is,

00:34:51.800 looking at the present

00:34:53.120 and arguing for a different future.

00:34:54.900 Is your sense that our party

00:34:59.680 is finding its footing again now?

00:35:01.620 I mean, on the basis,

00:35:02.560 we could talk a little bit more,

00:35:03.820 maybe unpack,

00:35:04.460 maybe you can illuminate

00:35:05.780 the viewers and listeners

00:35:07.340 about what you argued

00:35:09.480 is the challenge for our party.

00:35:12.680 But is your sense now

00:35:14.140 that we are back on firmer footing

00:35:16.760 than when you wrote that piece

00:35:18.540 a number of months ago?

00:35:19.880 Do you feel like our party

00:35:20.980 is in better shape or worse shape?

00:35:23.180 Are we finding our voice?

00:35:25.060 Is this shutdown in a perverse sense

00:35:26.580 helpful in terms of just organizing that voice

00:35:29.600 and the clarity of what's at stake?

00:35:31.580 All right, well,

00:35:32.020 I'm going to turn that question

00:35:32.980 back around on you too.

00:35:34.220 But I mean,

00:35:34.900 the polling would not tell you

00:35:35.900 that our party is in good shape today.

00:35:37.820 I mean, we are historically unpopular.

00:35:40.100 And part of that is just,

00:35:41.340 you know, people expressing their frustration

00:35:43.260 about Trump's lawlessness

00:35:44.780 through their indictment of the opposition

00:35:47.780 that they would hope

00:35:48.760 could have arrested more of it.

00:35:51.820 But yeah, he's giving us an opportunity, right?

00:35:55.120 He has been exposed as a fake populist, right?

00:35:57.960 He is simply operationalizing government

00:36:00.600 to steal from poor people,

00:36:02.500 cut their health care,

00:36:03.200 to enrich himself.

00:36:05.060 And so that really commands us

00:36:06.960 to try to figure out

00:36:08.380 why we've lost so many votes

00:36:10.060 amongst poor people in this country,

00:36:12.800 because they're now questioning

00:36:14.720 whether this guy is actually righteous,

00:36:17.080 whether this guy actually

00:36:17.980 is looking out for them.

00:36:19.080 But they're not ready

00:36:20.740 to vote for Democrats.

00:36:21.940 And that's for a couple of reasons.

00:36:23.580 A, they think we're just as corrupt 0.98

00:36:25.500 as Republicans are. 0.57

00:36:27.340 And so until we get more forceful

00:36:29.880 in the way that we talk about

00:36:31.840 how we would reform government

00:36:33.360 if we were back in charge,

00:36:34.700 like maybe a constitutional amendment

00:36:36.220 to ban private money,

00:36:37.680 corporate money,

00:36:39.040 anonymous money from campaigns,

00:36:40.900 they're just going to sort of think

00:36:42.440 that we're all the same stripe.

00:36:44.860 And then two, you know,

00:36:47.180 they perceive us Democrats

00:36:48.920 often to be pretty judgmental about them

00:36:51.900 if they don't line up with us

00:36:54.040 on all of our social

00:36:56.400 and cultural priorities.

00:36:58.700 And so, you know,

00:36:59.900 I've gotten in some hot water

00:37:01.720 amongst our friends

00:37:03.440 because I've said, listen,

00:37:04.360 I think we should be a party

00:37:05.440 who has a tentpole

00:37:07.080 of unrigging our economy

00:37:08.320 and unrigging our democracy.

00:37:10.100 And then we should try

00:37:11.220 to let into that coalition

00:37:12.920 people who might not agree with us

00:37:14.960 on all of the hot button issues,

00:37:16.660 even guns.

00:37:17.960 That doesn't mean

00:37:18.900 I stop fighting any harder

00:37:20.140 for those things.

00:37:21.640 I just think we could win

00:37:22.540 a lot more elections

00:37:23.540 if we were perceived

00:37:25.740 as being, as I said,

00:37:27.960 a little less overtly judgmental

00:37:30.080 of people who don't believe

00:37:32.260 in everything that, you know,

00:37:34.180 me or Gavin Newsom

00:37:35.640 or Kamala Harris believes.

00:37:37.940 And let's just open up

00:37:39.120 the aperture a little bit

00:37:40.060 to who we invite in

00:37:41.280 and we might find ourselves

00:37:42.600 winning more elections

00:37:43.380 and being able to get

00:37:44.420 a lot of good stuff done

00:37:45.840 for the country.

00:37:46.800 So is it your sense

00:37:48.480 that we're coming

00:37:49.820 to our senses in that respect

00:37:51.380 or is it still so situational

00:37:53.140 as you opened up

00:37:54.080 about Trump and Trumpism

00:37:55.940 and sort of the crisis

00:37:56.860 at hand in this moment

00:37:58.440 and that we're still

00:37:59.460 sort of in this fight or flight

00:38:00.860 in terms of playing defense

00:38:02.680 right now

00:38:03.340 before we then get back,

00:38:05.540 dust off,

00:38:06.120 and really talk about

00:38:07.000 that positive alternative

00:38:08.060 to Trump and Trumpism

00:38:10.240 that is more inclusive

00:38:11.480 that broadens our appeal

00:38:13.500 to more people?

00:38:14.820 Yeah, I think it's probably

00:38:16.580 the former.

00:38:18.740 I think we are right now

00:38:20.120 seized with this fight

00:38:21.500 and of course

00:38:22.240 it doesn't really matter

00:38:24.400 if we correct

00:38:26.360 from a policy

00:38:28.100 or messaging standpoint

00:38:29.580 if we don't have

00:38:30.780 an election in 2026

00:38:32.700 or we don't have

00:38:33.300 a free and fair election.

00:38:34.640 So it is kind of essential

00:38:36.480 at least in 2025

00:38:37.720 for us to make sure

00:38:38.920 that we don't lose

00:38:39.600 our democracy

00:38:40.240 within this 12-month period of time.

00:38:42.700 But I think we could probably

00:38:43.920 do a better job

00:38:44.640 of walking and chewing gum

00:38:46.500 at the same time.

00:38:47.780 I don't know, Gavin,

00:38:48.480 it's just to me,

00:38:49.700 you know,

00:38:49.900 we became a party

00:38:50.940 that kind of became

00:38:51.880 addicted to incrementalism.

00:38:53.960 You know,

00:38:54.080 we thought that these

00:38:54.680 little adjustments

00:38:55.500 on the margins of the market

00:38:56.760 could, you know,

00:38:57.920 make people's lives better.

00:39:00.320 I just want us to be

00:39:01.400 for big ideas again,

00:39:02.540 ideas that are as big

00:39:03.520 as the solutions

00:39:04.240 that people face.

00:39:06.300 And again,

00:39:07.120 in the way that you're

00:39:08.200 attacking this threat

00:39:09.120 to democracy,

00:39:10.380 you've kind of modeled

00:39:11.500 a belief

00:39:13.000 in big ideas.

00:39:15.080 And Trump has big ideas.

00:39:17.100 They're racist, 0.72

00:39:17.720 they're responsible, 0.99

00:39:18.500 divisive ideas.

00:39:19.780 The Democratic Party

00:39:20.460 is going to have to have

00:39:21.220 some bigger ideas

00:39:22.020 if we want to convince people

00:39:23.140 that we know

00:39:23.880 how hard their lives are.

00:39:28.280 All I know

00:39:29.300 is what I've been told

00:39:30.540 and that to have truth

00:39:32.080 is a whole lie.

00:39:33.520 For almost a decade,

00:39:35.640 the murder

00:39:36.060 of an 18-year-old girl

00:39:37.740 from a small town

00:39:39.160 in Graves County,

00:39:40.700 Kentucky,

00:39:41.580 went unsolved

00:39:42.540 until a local homemaker, 0.62

00:39:44.840 a journalist,

00:39:45.700 and a handful of girls

00:39:46.960 came forward

00:39:47.980 with a story.

00:39:49.380 I'm telling you,

00:39:50.300 we know Quincy Hilder.

00:39:51.920 We know.

00:39:52.680 A story

00:39:53.360 that law enforcement

00:39:54.400 used to convict

00:39:55.560 six people

00:39:56.660 and that got

00:39:57.580 the citizen investigator

00:39:58.980 on national TV.

00:40:00.800 Through sheer persistence

00:40:02.200 and nerve,

00:40:03.180 this Kentucky housewife 0.99

00:40:04.400 helped give justice

00:40:05.760 to Jessica Curran.

00:40:07.700 My name is Maggie Freeling.

00:40:09.360 I'm a Pulitzer Prize-winning

00:40:10.780 journalist,

00:40:11.760 producer,

00:40:12.440 and I wouldn't be here

00:40:14.580 if the truth

00:40:15.640 were that easy to find.

00:40:18.120 I did not know her

00:40:18.920 and I did not kill her 0.99

00:40:19.900 or rape or burn 0.99

00:40:21.280 or any of that other stuff 0.98

00:40:22.360 that y'all said.

00:40:23.200 They literally made me say

00:40:24.540 that I took a match

00:40:25.340 and struck 0.52

00:40:25.860 and threw it on her.

00:40:27.040 They made me say

00:40:27.780 that I poured gas on her.

00:40:29.280 From Lava for Good,

00:40:33.020 this is Graves County,

00:40:34.800 a show about

00:40:35.780 just how far

00:40:37.120 our legal system

00:40:38.140 will go

00:40:38.720 in order

00:40:39.540 to find someone

00:40:40.580 to blame.

00:40:41.800 America,

00:40:42.380 y'all better

00:40:42.700 wake the hell up.

00:40:43.960 Bad things

00:40:44.800 happens

00:40:45.440 to good people

00:40:47.340 in small towns.

00:40:50.480 Listen to Graves County

00:40:52.120 in the Bone Valley feed

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00:41:11.680 I'm Jonathan Goldstein

00:41:13.320 and on the new season

00:41:14.540 of Heavyweight,

00:41:15.660 I help a centenarian

00:41:17.020 mend a broken heart.

00:41:18.480 How can a 101-year-old woman 1.00

00:41:22.040 fall in love again?

00:41:24.960 And I help a man

00:41:27.060 atone

00:41:27.580 for an armed robbery

00:41:28.820 he committed

00:41:29.440 at 14 years old.

00:41:31.340 And so I

00:41:32.140 pointed the gun

00:41:34.020 at him

00:41:34.680 and said,

00:41:35.160 this isn't a joke.

00:41:36.440 And he got down

00:41:37.280 and I remember

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00:41:40.060 this is power.

00:41:41.160 Plus,

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00:42:05.880 Hey,

00:42:06.520 I'm Jay Shetty,

00:42:07.520 host of the

00:42:08.020 On Purpose podcast.

00:42:09.260 I had the incredible

00:42:10.420 opportunity

00:42:11.120 to sit down

00:42:12.020 with the one,

00:42:12.760 the only,

00:42:13.460 Cardi B.

00:42:14.120 My marriage,

00:42:15.120 I felt the love dying.

00:42:16.740 I was crying every day.

00:42:18.220 I fell in the deepest

00:42:20.340 depression

00:42:21.040 that I had

00:42:22.500 ever had.

00:42:24.540 How do you think

00:42:25.020 you're misunderstood?

00:42:25.980 I'm not this evil,

00:42:27.220 mean person

00:42:27.780 that people think

00:42:28.600 that I am.

00:42:29.260 I'm too compassionate.

00:42:30.600 I have sympathy

00:42:31.520 for that

00:42:33.020 my man.

00:42:35.240 You put so much

00:42:36.080 heart and soul

00:42:36.600 into your work.

00:42:38.080 What's the hardest part

00:42:38.940 for you to take

00:42:39.720 that criticism?

00:42:40.720 This was not

00:42:41.740 given to me. 0.99

00:42:42.980 I worked my ass

00:42:44.400 off for me.

00:42:45.200 Even when I was

00:42:45.740 a stripper,

00:42:46.300 I'm gonna be 0.82

00:42:46.740 the best pole dancer

00:42:47.920 in here.

00:42:48.760 When was the moment

00:42:49.700 you felt

00:42:50.240 I did it.

00:42:50.740 I still to this day

00:42:51.580 don't feel comfortable.

00:42:52.520 I fight every day

00:42:53.640 to keep this level

00:42:55.120 of success

00:42:55.700 because people

00:42:56.480 want to take it

00:42:57.440 from you so bad.

00:42:58.740 Listen to On Purpose

00:43:00.120 with Jay Shetty

00:43:00.920 on the iHeartRadio app,

00:43:02.880 Apple Podcasts,

00:43:04.120 or wherever you

00:43:04.800 get your podcasts.

00:43:08.740 In early 1988,

00:43:10.940 federal agents

00:43:11.660 raced to track

00:43:12.480 down the gang

00:43:13.020 they suspect

00:43:13.500 of importing

00:43:14.180 millions of dollars

00:43:15.260 worth of heroin

00:43:15.920 into New York

00:43:17.040 from Asia.

00:43:17.820 We had 30 agents

00:43:19.740 ready to go

00:43:20.400 with shotguns

00:43:21.660 and rifles

00:43:22.580 and you name it.

00:43:24.380 But what they find

00:43:25.200 is not what they expected.

00:43:28.040 Basically,

00:43:28.640 your stay-at-home moms 0.99

00:43:29.560 were picking up

00:43:30.180 these large amounts

00:43:31.000 of heroin.

00:43:32.020 They go,

00:43:32.640 is this your daughter?

00:43:33.560 I said, yes.

00:43:34.480 They go, oh,

00:43:35.280 you may not see her

00:43:36.400 for like 25 years.

00:43:41.200 Caught between

00:43:41.940 a federal investigation

00:43:43.060 and the violent gang

00:43:44.740 who recruited them,

00:43:46.320 the women must decide 1.00

00:43:47.380 who they're willing

00:43:48.420 to protect

00:43:49.020 and who they dare

00:43:50.460 to betray.

00:43:52.580 Once I saw the gun,

00:43:53.580 I tried to take his hand

00:43:54.560 and I saw the flash of light.

00:43:56.980 Listen to the Chinatown Sting 0.99

00:43:58.440 on the iHeartRadio app,

00:44:00.480 Apple Podcasts,

00:44:01.560 or anywhere you get

00:44:02.740 your podcasts.

00:44:07.120 Welcome to Decoding

00:44:08.160 Women's Health. 0.71

00:44:09.140 I'm Dr. Elizabeth Pointer,

00:44:10.740 Chair of Women's Health

00:44:11.720 and Gynecology

00:44:12.460 at the Adria Health Institute

00:44:13.920 in New York City.

00:44:15.480 On this show,

00:44:16.300 I'll be talking

00:44:16.800 to top researchers

00:44:17.780 and top clinicians,

00:44:19.460 asking them

00:44:20.080 your burning questions

00:44:21.420 and bringing that information

00:44:22.820 about women's health

00:44:23.780 and midlife

00:44:24.500 directly to you.

00:44:25.780 100% of women

00:44:27.100 go through menopause.

00:44:28.840 It can be such a struggle

00:44:30.640 for our quality of life,

00:44:32.520 but even if it's natural,

00:44:34.060 why should we suffer

00:44:34.920 through it?

00:44:35.720 The types of symptoms

00:44:36.560 that people talk about

00:44:37.600 is forgetting everything.

00:44:39.040 I never used to forget things.

00:44:40.740 They're concerned

00:44:41.340 that one,

00:44:42.040 they have dementia,

00:44:43.160 and the other one is,

00:44:44.540 do I have ADHD?

00:44:46.080 There is unprecedented promise

00:44:48.840 with regard to cannabis

00:44:50.200 and cannabinoids

00:44:51.040 to sleep better,

00:44:51.920 to have less pain,

00:44:52.760 to have better mood,

00:44:53.640 and also to have

00:44:54.660 better day-to-day life.

00:44:56.620 Listen to Decoding

00:44:57.300 Women's Health

00:44:57.840 with Dr. Elizabeth Pointer

00:44:58.860 on the iHeartRadio app,

00:45:00.680 Apple Podcasts,

00:45:01.820 or wherever you're listening now.

00:45:03.220 I couldn't agree with you more.

00:45:07.980 I mean,

00:45:08.180 those talk about trend lines

00:45:10.180 that have become headlines.

00:45:11.760 You've got an economy

00:45:12.720 for decades

00:45:13.340 that hasn't been working

00:45:14.120 for folks,

00:45:14.600 and one of the areas

00:45:15.680 that I admire

00:45:16.660 you're so focused on

00:45:18.460 is young people

00:45:20.100 and this notion of loneliness

00:45:22.140 and isolation

00:45:23.020 and underscorings

00:45:24.500 for the economic trend lines

00:45:25.960 that are now

00:45:27.060 finally being recognized.

00:45:28.140 as a 30-year-old today

00:45:29.680 living is doing worse

00:45:31.060 than his parents,

00:45:32.240 which is the first time

00:45:33.300 in U.S. history

00:45:34.180 that's ever been the case.

00:45:36.600 And the more time

00:45:37.760 I spend online,

00:45:38.660 more time I spend offline,

00:45:40.540 more time I spend

00:45:41.700 with my own kids,

00:45:43.400 you know,

00:45:43.620 I can appreciate

00:45:44.820 this sort of,

00:45:47.420 that's almost a desperation

00:45:48.640 that I will never,

00:45:49.880 ever afford

00:45:50.980 the home I'm growing up in

00:45:52.860 or even imagine

00:45:53.680 even being able to pay rent

00:45:54.860 even if I have

00:45:56.020 two or three roommates

00:45:56.960 or be able to

00:45:58.020 continue to afford

00:45:58.920 the quality of life

00:46:00.480 that you or my parents

00:46:01.940 are enjoying.

00:46:03.380 And so I think

00:46:04.120 this notion

00:46:04.680 of moving away

00:46:05.420 from incrementalism

00:46:06.720 is important.

00:46:07.580 But I also want to unpack

00:46:08.560 this notion of isolationism

00:46:10.060 and this notion

00:46:11.680 that increasingly

00:46:12.500 people are sort of

00:46:13.820 understanding

00:46:14.660 and unpacking.

00:46:15.880 Again,

00:46:16.080 you've written a lot about it.

00:46:17.440 Maybe you can illuminate us

00:46:18.480 to your thoughts

00:46:19.100 in that respect.

00:46:20.400 No, I appreciate it

00:46:21.940 because,

00:46:23.200 you know,

00:46:23.800 there's a radical change

00:46:25.680 happening in America today

00:46:27.040 and it does explain

00:46:28.160 a lot of our incivility

00:46:29.420 and a lot of our

00:46:30.840 political anger.

00:46:32.540 We've gone through

00:46:33.660 really a period

00:46:34.840 of great social withdrawal

00:46:36.700 and it's not just

00:46:37.620 the pandemic.

00:46:38.380 It really dates to,

00:46:39.500 you know,

00:46:39.820 the moment those smartphones

00:46:41.500 got dumped

00:46:42.040 in our pockets.

00:46:43.440 Today,

00:46:44.140 the average adult

00:46:45.220 spends half as much time

00:46:47.000 every week

00:46:47.700 with friends

00:46:49.040 and family

00:46:49.720 in person

00:46:50.380 than they did

00:46:51.540 just 30 years ago.

00:46:52.860 the fall-off

00:46:53.680 and socialization

00:46:54.360 has been even more

00:46:55.440 severe for our kids.

00:46:58.640 They're,

00:46:59.060 in some instances,

00:47:01.240 spending 60,

00:47:02.020 70% less time

00:47:03.820 in in-person communion

00:47:05.700 than they were

00:47:06.820 just generations ago.

00:47:09.600 You know,

00:47:10.380 you have to work

00:47:10.960 longer hours now

00:47:12.180 to be able

00:47:12.700 to make ends meet

00:47:13.760 so there's less

00:47:14.520 leisure time

00:47:15.640 available for you.

00:47:18.280 We have

00:47:19.120 a isolation

00:47:21.120 and loneliness

00:47:21.760 epidemic

00:47:22.360 in this country

00:47:23.280 and,

00:47:23.740 you know,

00:47:23.940 the Surgeon General

00:47:25.000 under Biden

00:47:25.520 talked about,

00:47:26.400 you know,

00:47:26.820 how that has

00:47:27.300 health consequences.

00:47:28.160 You're more likely

00:47:28.880 to have heart disease,

00:47:29.960 dementia,

00:47:30.460 if you're spending

00:47:31.060 more time alone.

00:47:32.020 But it has practical

00:47:33.400 considerations

00:47:34.220 for our politics.

00:47:35.240 I mean,

00:47:35.360 I bet you a lot

00:47:36.000 of those people

00:47:36.520 who were rioting

00:47:37.600 at the Capitol

00:47:38.080 on January 6th

00:47:39.020 were pretty lonely

00:47:39.780 people that came

00:47:40.580 to believe

00:47:41.000 these conspiracy theories

00:47:42.160 about Democrats

00:47:42.800 because they were

00:47:44.020 first sad

00:47:44.820 about their loneliness

00:47:45.540 and then they were

00:47:46.100 angry about it

00:47:46.820 and they wanted

00:47:47.240 to take it out

00:47:48.360 on somebody.

00:47:49.220 So,

00:47:49.820 you know,

00:47:50.020 I just think

00:47:50.660 that,

00:47:50.980 you know,

00:47:51.200 in that founding

00:47:51.940 document,

00:47:52.500 it says that

00:47:53.640 government is

00:47:54.100 supposed to guarantee

00:47:54.720 the right to

00:47:55.500 pursue happiness

00:47:56.220 and happiness

00:47:57.320 is rooted,

00:47:58.380 yeah,

00:47:58.620 in your career

00:47:59.440 but mostly

00:48:00.020 in your relationships,

00:48:01.220 mostly in,

00:48:02.160 you know,

00:48:02.500 how connected

00:48:03.180 you feel

00:48:03.640 to your community.

00:48:04.500 So,

00:48:05.080 I would love

00:48:05.980 a conversation

00:48:06.640 about how we

00:48:07.600 kind of unwind

00:48:09.200 this cycle

00:48:09.980 of social withdrawal

00:48:11.140 and I think

00:48:11.620 we should start

00:48:12.240 with our kids.

00:48:13.120 You and I

00:48:13.640 have been raising

00:48:14.420 kids in this age

00:48:15.520 of smartphones

00:48:16.560 you and I

00:48:17.840 talked about it

00:48:18.420 last time

00:48:18.740 we saw each

00:48:19.220 other in person

00:48:19.940 and I remember

00:48:20.560 you having done

00:48:21.600 a better job

00:48:22.240 than I have

00:48:23.360 and my kid's mom

00:48:25.380 has in keeping

00:48:26.420 our kids away

00:48:27.080 from that technology

00:48:28.060 but,

00:48:28.820 you know,

00:48:28.960 you could just

00:48:29.340 start by

00:48:29.900 restricting

00:48:30.680 the access

00:48:31.160 kids have

00:48:31.660 to social media

00:48:32.400 giving them

00:48:32.880 a chance

00:48:33.500 at meeting

00:48:34.600 each other

00:48:35.240 more often

00:48:35.820 and then maybe

00:48:36.360 that would

00:48:36.780 spin them

00:48:37.200 into healthier

00:48:37.860 adults.

00:48:39.400 I just think

00:48:40.100 it's a real

00:48:40.680 important

00:48:41.280 and unifying

00:48:41.920 conversation

00:48:42.520 because like

00:48:43.140 right and left

00:48:44.240 don't feel

00:48:44.880 differently

00:48:45.360 about the

00:48:46.360 poison that's

00:48:47.100 being handed

00:48:47.560 to our kids

00:48:48.100 they want us

00:48:48.840 to step up

00:48:49.320 and do something.

00:48:50.560 I completely

00:48:51.960 concur in terms

00:48:53.220 of just the

00:48:53.680 universality

00:48:54.280 of the concerns

00:48:55.160 and the

00:48:55.860 consideration

00:48:56.440 of how we

00:48:57.560 can,

00:48:57.860 I mean,

00:48:58.260 this is about

00:48:59.160 communitarianism

00:49:00.060 it's not about

00:49:00.680 political party

00:49:01.460 it's about

00:49:02.400 our shared

00:49:02.960 experience

00:49:03.520 shared humanity

00:49:04.180 and I think

00:49:05.340 this explains

00:49:06.280 more things

00:49:06.760 in more ways

00:49:07.320 on more days

00:49:07.980 in terms of

00:49:08.500 our politics

00:49:09.120 and unpacking

00:49:10.380 that is critical

00:49:11.400 in the interest

00:49:12.480 of trying

00:49:13.100 to sort of

00:49:13.720 unpack more

00:49:14.580 issues and distill

00:49:15.520 in a very short

00:49:16.580 period of time

00:49:17.200 I want to unpack

00:49:17.920 a little bit

00:49:18.440 about your

00:49:19.580 reference a moment

00:49:20.440 ago that very

00:49:21.300 much is in line

00:49:22.180 with what we

00:49:22.600 were just talking

00:49:23.240 and you mentioned

00:49:23.800 media and passing

00:49:25.340 you obviously

00:49:26.940 have tried to

00:49:28.080 meet the moment

00:49:29.420 with the NOPE

00:49:30.300 Act which I want

00:49:31.300 to talk about

00:49:31.900 in a second 0.78

00:49:32.900 in relationship

00:49:33.480 to what happened

00:49:34.120 with Jimmy Kimmel

00:49:34.860 but there's a lot

00:49:35.940 happening with

00:49:36.960 social media

00:49:37.820 TikTok

00:49:38.680 now appears

00:49:40.360 to be transferring

00:49:41.520 hands to

00:49:43.100 American investors

00:49:44.040 disproportionately

00:49:44.820 a number

00:49:45.280 that have strong

00:49:46.160 ties to the

00:49:46.680 Trump administration

00:49:47.320 we've seen

00:49:48.460 what's happened

00:49:49.860 with Paramount

00:49:50.920 deal

00:49:51.340 and obviously

00:49:52.980 new announcement

00:49:53.960 to the new

00:49:55.080 Barry Weiss

00:49:55.900 who's going

00:49:56.740 to be running

00:49:57.180 CBS

00:49:57.620 and just a shift

00:50:00.240 now consolidation

00:50:01.420 in the hands

00:50:02.600 of fewer and fewer

00:50:03.260 people

00:50:03.740 it seems

00:50:04.280 like more

00:50:05.640 oversight

00:50:06.340 or at least

00:50:07.040 more settlements

00:50:08.540 that imply

00:50:09.880 more oversight

00:50:10.800 including

00:50:11.280 with YouTube

00:50:12.720 that's sending

00:50:14.220 22 million dollars

00:50:15.360 of a 24 and a half

00:50:16.240 million dollar

00:50:16.700 settlement

00:50:17.040 to build a new

00:50:18.100 ballroom

00:50:18.560 that has not

00:50:19.840 by the way

00:50:20.300 been impacted

00:50:20.860 by the government

00:50:21.460 shutdown

00:50:21.980 the construction

00:50:22.600 there

00:50:22.920 I mean

00:50:23.620 what's your

00:50:24.020 what's your

00:50:24.800 sense of

00:50:25.520 what's happening

00:50:26.340 in the media

00:50:26.940 landscape

00:50:27.440 in this

00:50:28.180 well that doesn't

00:50:28.600 sound too good

00:50:29.220 when you

00:50:29.520 you know

00:50:29.940 lay it out

00:50:30.400 that way

00:50:31.180 leading question

00:50:32.280 here

00:50:32.600 well I mean

00:50:34.140 like you know

00:50:35.060 this you know

00:50:35.680 totalitarianism

00:50:36.560 and monopoly

00:50:37.120 go hand in

00:50:37.700 hand

00:50:37.920 you know

00:50:40.000 it's really

00:50:40.480 important to

00:50:41.460 you know

00:50:42.200 somebody that's

00:50:42.940 seeking to

00:50:43.480 contract the

00:50:44.280 space for

00:50:44.880 dissent

00:50:45.600 to you know

00:50:46.620 be able to

00:50:47.520 pull the

00:50:47.980 levers of

00:50:48.720 media control

00:50:49.620 and it's

00:50:51.380 really really

00:50:51.940 worrying

00:50:52.400 that increasingly

00:50:53.560 there's a

00:50:54.180 really small

00:50:54.920 number of

00:50:55.480 people in

00:50:56.000 this country

00:50:56.540 who control

00:50:57.880 the platforms

00:50:59.580 upon which

00:51:00.800 we communicate

00:51:01.640 the algorithms

00:51:03.100 really matter

00:51:03.760 there and

00:51:05.020 control the

00:51:06.180 sources of

00:51:07.060 news that

00:51:07.660 we all

00:51:08.320 consume

00:51:08.960 you mentioned

00:51:09.840 this you know

00:51:10.700 there's one

00:51:11.060 company that's

00:51:12.020 essentially controlled

00:51:12.900 by the Ellison

00:51:13.560 family they're

00:51:14.380 very very close

00:51:15.200 to Donald

00:51:16.180 Trump they

00:51:17.260 just bought

00:51:17.820 up Paramount

00:51:19.220 which owns

00:51:19.700 CBS and

00:51:20.500 immediately

00:51:20.920 installed Barry

00:51:22.020 Weiss you 0.55

00:51:23.120 know right

00:51:23.540 leaning

00:51:23.960 commentator in

00:51:26.260 charge of the

00:51:27.180 news they now

00:51:28.040 are looking to

00:51:28.720 buy an even

00:51:30.660 bigger media

00:51:31.140 company that

00:51:31.680 includes CNN

00:51:32.920 they may have

00:51:33.860 control of

00:51:34.320 TikTok I

00:51:34.900 mean this is

00:51:35.200 one family

00:51:35.760 now that

00:51:36.180 could have

00:51:36.520 CBS CNN

00:51:37.720 TikTok and

00:51:40.840 you saw what

00:51:41.380 happened to

00:51:41.880 Kimmel when

00:51:42.860 the state

00:51:43.560 starts to

00:51:44.480 use its

00:51:45.360 regulatory

00:51:45.780 power to

00:51:46.900 act on

00:51:47.740 small and

00:51:48.640 medium-sized

00:51:49.240 actors and

00:51:50.020 say if you

00:51:50.620 want to keep

00:51:50.980 your license

00:51:51.500 or you want

00:51:52.340 to ever get

00:51:52.900 a merger

00:51:53.340 approved you've

00:51:54.520 got to listen

00:51:54.860 to us in

00:51:55.480 terms of who

00:51:55.940 can speak

00:51:56.460 and who

00:51:56.980 can't speak

00:51:58.520 again this

00:52:00.560 is you know

00:52:01.180 what's been

00:52:01.940 happening in

00:52:02.380 Hungary over 0.95

00:52:02.820 the past 20

00:52:03.560 years is that

00:52:04.340 the government

00:52:04.920 you know just

00:52:05.820 starts to cut

00:52:06.500 deals with

00:52:07.500 very rich

00:52:08.100 people we'll

00:52:09.680 let you take

00:52:10.340 ownership over

00:52:10.980 this media

00:52:11.580 company and

00:52:13.280 we'll let you

00:52:14.260 make a lot of

00:52:14.860 money off of

00:52:15.500 it but you

00:52:16.540 have to tilt

00:52:17.100 the coverage

00:52:17.640 towards us

00:52:18.380 and it's

00:52:18.720 pretty clear

00:52:20.540 and in fact

00:52:21.320 pretty brazen

00:52:22.180 and transparent

00:52:22.860 that that's

00:52:23.400 what Trump

00:52:24.280 is trying to

00:52:24.980 do so you

00:52:26.060 know we've

00:52:26.560 got to you

00:52:27.240 know speak up

00:52:27.840 about that but

00:52:29.020 we also have to

00:52:29.940 tell people that

00:52:30.920 if you put

00:52:31.320 Democrats in

00:52:31.920 charge we're

00:52:33.080 going to do

00:52:33.640 something about

00:52:34.180 these media

00:52:34.700 monopolies I

00:52:35.380 think that's

00:52:35.700 actually pretty

00:52:36.140 popular because

00:52:36.800 I think folks

00:52:37.520 out there don't

00:52:38.100 like the fact

00:52:38.780 that you know

00:52:39.580 the news is

00:52:40.180 being controlled

00:52:41.100 by a small

00:52:42.480 handful of

00:52:43.120 individuals and

00:52:43.720 companies in

00:52:44.240 this country

00:52:44.680 so after what

00:52:45.800 occurred with

00:52:46.780 Jimmy Kimmel

00:52:47.420 and the FCC

00:52:48.360 and concerns

00:52:49.220 you introduced

00:52:50.240 an actual

00:52:51.060 strategy to

00:52:52.660 respond to

00:52:53.240 that not

00:52:53.980 just rhetoric

00:52:54.620 but actual

00:52:55.360 legislative

00:52:55.900 plan

00:52:57.180 inferred to

00:52:58.480 in your

00:52:59.200 vernacular

00:52:59.540 there's the

00:53:00.000 NOPE

00:53:00.300 Act

00:53:00.800 unpack that

00:53:02.400 what's the

00:53:02.820 N and O 0.99

00:53:03.300 and P

00:53:03.700 and E

00:53:04.040 stand for

00:53:04.580 well you

00:53:06.720 know it is

00:53:07.100 important also

00:53:07.760 to just

00:53:08.180 remember that

00:53:09.000 you know Kimmel's

00:53:09.720 back on the

00:53:10.200 air right

00:53:10.640 and it's another

00:53:11.620 demonstration of

00:53:12.520 you know our

00:53:13.260 power in that

00:53:13.960 case it was

00:53:14.380 commercial power

00:53:15.420 that we

00:53:17.220 you know used

00:53:18.840 our power as

00:53:19.380 consumers to

00:53:20.320 say to Disney

00:53:20.860 listen there's

00:53:21.240 going to be

00:53:21.500 consequences to

00:53:22.360 you if you

00:53:23.000 essentially engage

00:53:24.700 in Trump

00:53:25.080 censorship

00:53:25.540 regime and

00:53:26.920 we can do

00:53:28.060 that again

00:53:28.600 through our

00:53:29.240 commercial power

00:53:30.100 but we also

00:53:30.820 have that same

00:53:31.280 power politically

00:53:32.520 so yeah the

00:53:34.180 NOPE Act is

00:53:35.060 you know is a

00:53:36.480 is a bill about

00:53:37.960 banning political

00:53:39.420 prosecutions so

00:53:40.940 we just set up

00:53:43.400 a whole new

00:53:44.380 set of

00:53:45.400 common sense

00:53:46.140 defenses that

00:53:47.200 individuals would

00:53:47.980 have in court

00:53:48.700 if they ever got

00:53:49.940 prosecuted for

00:53:50.800 free speech now

00:53:51.860 it's illegal to

00:53:52.880 arrest somebody

00:53:54.020 just because

00:53:54.520 they're protesting

00:53:55.260 the government

00:53:55.800 but that hasn't

00:53:56.560 stopped Trump

00:53:57.120 from doing it

00:53:58.040 I don't remember

00:53:59.800 if it was

00:54:00.220 Stalin or some

00:54:01.480 other famous

00:54:02.100 totalitarian

00:54:03.560 once you know

00:54:04.560 said show me

00:54:05.580 the person and

00:54:06.300 I'll find you

00:54:06.860 the crime

00:54:07.360 like you know

00:54:08.840 you can dig up

00:54:09.820 something somebody

00:54:11.260 has done and

00:54:12.060 allege that it's

00:54:12.660 a crime even

00:54:13.680 though your

00:54:13.940 underlying motivation

00:54:14.680 is really to

00:54:15.660 punish their

00:54:16.460 speech what

00:54:17.400 this bill does

00:54:18.000 is just set up

00:54:19.000 a number of

00:54:19.940 defenses you can

00:54:20.660 raise in court

00:54:21.380 if you believe

00:54:22.620 you're being

00:54:22.960 persecuted for

00:54:23.820 speech and

00:54:24.660 allows you to

00:54:25.280 ultimately collect

00:54:26.060 attorney's fees

00:54:26.800 and have

00:54:27.280 repercussions

00:54:28.380 against the

00:54:29.180 charging agent

00:54:29.860 if it turns out

00:54:31.120 that you are

00:54:31.640 unconstitutionally

00:54:32.600 pursued for

00:54:34.160 your political

00:54:35.220 activity so

00:54:36.220 listen I don't

00:54:37.160 have any

00:54:38.060 illusions that

00:54:38.900 that bill is

00:54:39.340 going to pass

00:54:40.140 in a Republican

00:54:41.460 Congress but

00:54:42.440 you know it's

00:54:42.960 just another way

00:54:43.700 for us to

00:54:44.380 raise for

00:54:46.160 folks the

00:54:46.820 specter of what

00:54:47.420 they're doing

00:54:47.780 all I know

00:54:52.360 is what I've

00:54:53.120 been told and

00:54:54.200 that's a half

00:54:54.840 truth is a

00:54:55.480 whole lie

00:54:56.020 for almost a

00:54:57.920 decade the

00:54:58.840 murder of an

00:54:59.700 18 year old

00:55:00.460 girl from a

00:55:01.460 small town in

00:55:02.620 Graves County

00:55:03.580 Kentucky went

00:55:04.880 unsolved until

00:55:06.320 a local

00:55:07.020 homemaker a

00:55:08.060 journalist and

00:55:09.000 a handful of

00:55:09.680 girls came

00:55:10.580 forward with a

00:55:11.700 story I'm

00:55:12.740 telling you we

00:55:13.520 know Quincy

00:55:14.300 killed her we 0.80

00:55:15.160 know a story

00:55:16.440 that law

00:55:17.080 enforcement used

00:55:18.000 to convict six

00:55:19.240 people and that

00:55:20.400 got the citizen

00:55:21.280 investigator on

00:55:22.600 national TV

00:55:23.480 through sheer

00:55:24.600 persistence and

00:55:25.700 nerve this

00:55:26.420 Kentucky housewife

00:55:27.500 helped give

00:55:28.240 justice to

00:55:29.220 Jessica Curran

00:55:30.180 my name is

00:55:31.500 Maggie Freeling

00:55:32.220 I'm a Pulitzer

00:55:33.200 prize-winning

00:55:33.860 journalist producer

00:55:35.180 and I wouldn't

00:55:37.000 be here if the

00:55:38.320 truth were that

00:55:39.400 easy to find

00:55:40.440 I did not know

00:55:41.820 her and I did

00:55:42.340 not kill her 0.99

00:55:43.020 or rape or burn 1.00

00:55:44.380 or any of that 0.98

00:55:44.940 other stuff that

00:55:45.580 y'all said it

00:55:46.200 they literally

00:55:47.000 made me say that

00:55:47.760 I took a match

00:55:48.440 and struck and 0.65

00:55:49.180 threw it on her

00:55:49.960 they made me say

00:55:50.860 that I poured gas

00:55:51.740 on her

00:55:52.460 from Lava for

00:55:55.520 Good this is

00:55:56.720 Graves County

00:55:57.440 a show about

00:55:58.860 just how far

00:56:00.200 our legal system

00:56:01.220 will go in

00:56:02.260 order to find

00:56:03.380 someone to blame

00:56:04.240 America y'all

00:56:05.600 better wake the

00:56:06.160 hell up bad

00:56:07.400 things happens

00:56:08.540 to good people

00:56:10.420 and small

00:56:11.400 towns

00:56:12.320 listen to

00:56:14.540 Graves County

00:56:15.220 in the Bone

00:56:16.000 Valley feed

00:56:16.740 on the

00:56:17.200 iHeartRadio app

00:56:18.260 Apple Podcasts

00:56:19.560 or wherever

00:56:20.180 you get your

00:56:20.980 podcasts

00:56:21.540 and to binge

00:56:22.820 the entire season

00:56:23.700 ad-free

00:56:24.260 subscribe to

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00:56:27.320 I'm Jonathan

00:56:35.840 Goldstein

00:56:36.420 and on the

00:56:37.100 new season

00:56:37.620 of Heavyweight

00:56:38.340 I help a

00:56:39.460 centenarian

00:56:40.100 mend a broken

00:56:40.860 heart

00:56:41.400 how can

00:56:42.300 a hundred

00:56:43.000 and one

00:56:43.800 year old

00:56:44.620 woman 0.99

00:56:45.120 fall in

00:56:46.680 love

00:56:47.220 again

00:56:48.060 and

00:56:49.180 I help

00:56:49.840 a man

00:56:50.160 atone

00:56:50.700 for an

00:56:51.260 armed robbery

00:56:51.900 he committed

00:56:52.520 at 14 years

00:56:53.600 old

00:56:54.000 and so

00:56:54.820 I

00:56:55.220 pointed the

00:56:56.880 gun

00:56:57.120 at him

00:56:57.760 and said

00:56:58.120 this isn't

00:56:58.560 a joke

00:56:59.120 and he

00:56:59.920 got down

00:57:00.380 and I

00:57:00.640 remember

00:57:00.840 feeling

00:57:01.120 kind of

00:57:01.420 a surge

00:57:01.880 of like

00:57:02.340 okay

00:57:03.060 this is

00:57:03.420 power

00:57:03.820 Plus

00:57:04.600 my old

00:57:05.100 friend

00:57:05.300 Gregor

00:57:05.700 and his

00:57:06.040 brother

00:57:06.320 try to

00:57:07.000 solve

00:57:07.220 my

00:57:07.480 problems

00:57:08.060 through

00:57:08.900 hypnotism

00:57:09.800 we could

00:57:10.240 give you

00:57:10.440 a whole

00:57:10.680 brand new

00:57:11.100 thing

00:57:11.340 where you're

00:57:11.660 like

00:57:11.860 super

00:57:12.180 charming

00:57:12.540 all the

00:57:12.820 time

00:57:13.060 being more

00:57:13.700 able to

00:57:14.020 look people

00:57:14.540 in the eye

00:57:15.180 not always

00:57:15.700 hide behind

00:57:16.180 a microphone

00:57:16.780 listen to

00:57:18.700 Heavyweight

00:57:19.220 on the

00:57:19.640 iHeartRadio app

00:57:21.080 Apple Podcasts

00:57:22.340 or wherever

00:57:23.200 you get your

00:57:23.820 podcasts

00:57:39.800 I was crying

00:57:40.360 every day

00:57:40.940 I fell

00:57:42.440 in the

00:57:42.960 deepest

00:57:43.400 depression

00:57:44.120 that I

00:57:45.320 had

00:57:45.580 ever

00:57:46.320 had

00:57:46.880 how do you

00:57:47.980 think you're

00:57:48.260 misunderstood

00:57:48.660 I'm not this

00:57:49.800 evil mean

00:57:50.460 person that

00:57:51.120 people think

00:57:51.700 that I am

00:57:52.260 I'm too

00:57:52.800 compassionate

00:57:53.440 I have

00:57:54.120 sympathy

00:57:54.600 for

00:57:54.900 that

00:57:56.100 my man

00:57:57.380 you put

00:57:58.640 so much

00:57:59.180 heart and

00:57:59.500 soul into

00:58:00.040 your work

00:58:01.020 what's the

00:58:01.520 hardest part

00:58:02.040 for you

00:58:02.380 to take

00:58:02.800 that

00:58:03.020 criticism

00:58:03.500 this

00:58:04.020 was not

00:58:04.820 given to

00:58:05.540 me

00:58:05.800 I worked 0.99

00:58:06.740 my ass

00:58:07.500 off for 0.99

00:58:08.020 me

00:58:08.200 even when I

00:58:08.700 was a

00:58:08.960 stripper

00:58:09.260 I'm gonna be

00:58:09.840 the best

00:58:10.360 pole dancer

00:58:11.020 in here

00:58:11.500 when was the

00:58:12.580 moment you

00:58:13.000 felt I

00:58:13.540 did it

00:58:13.800 I still to

00:58:14.380 this day

00:58:14.660 don't feel

00:58:15.040 comfortable

00:58:15.440 I fight

00:58:16.000 every day

00:58:16.740 to keep

00:58:17.700 this level

00:58:18.200 of success

00:58:18.780 because people

00:58:19.560 want to

00:58:20.000 take it

00:58:20.520 from you

00:58:20.900 so bad

00:58:21.560 listen to

00:58:22.480 On Purpose

00:58:23.200 with Jay Shetty

00:58:24.000 on the

00:58:24.600 iHeartRadio app

00:58:25.740 Apple Podcasts

00:58:27.200 or wherever

00:58:27.660 you get your

00:58:28.340 podcasts

00:58:28.940 welcome to

00:58:30.720 Decoding

00:58:31.080 Women's Health

00:58:31.740 I'm Dr. Elizabeth

00:58:32.920 Pointer

00:58:33.300 Chair of

00:58:34.180 Women's Health

00:58:34.660 and Gynecology

00:58:35.380 at the

00:58:35.880 Adria Health

00:58:36.440 Institute

00:58:36.840 in New York

00:58:37.420 City

00:58:37.700 on this show

00:58:39.120 I'll be talking

00:58:39.720 to top

00:58:40.200 researchers

00:58:40.700 and top

00:58:41.420 clinicians

00:58:41.840 asking them

00:58:43.020 your burning

00:58:43.820 questions

00:58:44.280 and bringing

00:58:44.820 that information

00:58:45.760 about women's

00:58:46.540 health and

00:58:46.960 midlife

00:58:47.420 directly to

00:58:48.120 you

00:58:48.440 100% of

00:58:49.820 women go 1.00

00:58:50.260 through

00:58:50.520 menopause

00:58:51.260 it can be

00:58:52.660 such a struggle

00:58:53.560 for our

00:58:54.240 quality of life

00:58:55.320 but even if

00:58:56.240 it's natural

00:58:56.840 why should we

00:58:57.580 suffer through

00:58:58.160 it

00:58:58.460 the types

00:58:59.060 of symptoms

00:58:59.500 that people

00:58:59.960 talk about

00:59:00.540 is forgetting

00:59:01.240 everything

00:59:01.700 I never used

00:59:02.540 to forget

00:59:02.940 things

00:59:03.440 they're concerned

00:59:04.260 that one

00:59:04.880 they have

00:59:05.340 dementia

00:59:05.800 and the

00:59:06.560 other one

00:59:07.100 is do I

00:59:07.660 have ADHD

00:59:08.400 there is

00:59:09.540 unprecedented

00:59:10.560 promise with

00:59:12.180 regard to

00:59:12.760 cannabis and

00:59:13.360 cannabinoids

00:59:13.960 to sleep

00:59:14.420 better

00:59:14.740 to have

00:59:15.100 less pain

00:59:15.620 to have

00:59:15.920 better mood

00:59:16.440 and also

00:59:17.260 to have

00:59:17.580 better day-to-day

00:59:18.280 life

00:59:18.700 listen to decoding

00:59:20.220 women's health

00:59:20.780 with Dr. Elizabeth

00:59:21.460 Pointer on the

00:59:22.260 iHeartRadio app

00:59:23.260 Apple podcasts

00:59:24.540 or wherever you're

00:59:25.600 listening now

00:59:26.240 in early 1988

00:59:33.480 federal agents

00:59:34.780 raced to track

00:59:35.600 down the gang

00:59:36.140 they suspect

00:59:36.620 of importing

00:59:37.300 millions of

00:59:38.080 dollars worth

00:59:38.600 of heroin

00:59:39.020 into New York

00:59:40.160 from Asia

00:59:40.960 we had 30

00:59:42.340 agents ready

00:59:43.200 to go

00:59:43.520 with shotguns

00:59:44.780 and rifles

00:59:45.700 and you name it

00:59:46.980 but what they

00:59:47.960 find is not

00:59:49.080 what they expected

00:59:49.860 basically your

00:59:51.860 stay-at-home moms

00:59:52.680 were picking up

00:59:53.280 these large

00:59:53.860 amounts of heroin

00:59:54.500 they go

00:59:55.520 is this your

00:59:56.220 daughter

00:59:56.500 I said yes

00:59:57.380 they go

00:59:57.920 oh you may

00:59:58.700 not see her

00:59:59.500 for like 25

01:00:00.800 years

01:00:01.400 caught between

01:00:05.060 a federal

01:00:05.480 investigation

01:00:06.160 and the violent

01:00:07.560 gang who

01:00:08.040 recruited them

01:00:08.760 the women 0.97

01:00:09.760 must decide

01:00:10.500 who they're

01:00:11.360 willing to

01:00:11.720 protect

01:00:12.140 and who

01:00:13.080 they dare

01:00:13.580 to betray

01:00:14.300 once I saw

01:00:16.420 the gun

01:00:16.660 I tried to

01:00:17.080 take his

01:00:17.480 hand and I

01:00:17.980 saw the

01:00:18.320 flash of light

01:00:19.080 listen to

01:00:20.560 the Chinatown

01:00:21.180 sting

01:00:21.540 on the

01:00:22.260 iHeartRadio app

01:00:23.240 Apple podcasts

01:00:24.460 or anywhere

01:00:25.500 you get

01:00:25.860 your podcasts

01:00:26.560 so let's

01:00:30.480 in finishing

01:00:31.940 up here

01:00:32.560 I want to

01:00:33.220 sort of go

01:00:33.680 back to the

01:00:34.140 beginning

01:00:34.400 and just

01:00:35.080 you know

01:00:35.540 you made

01:00:35.860 the point

01:00:36.320 on multiple

01:00:37.020 occasions

01:00:37.480 including the

01:00:37.940 reference to

01:00:38.560 how people

01:00:39.460 really use

01:00:40.200 their voice

01:00:40.800 and express

01:00:41.900 their disdain

01:00:42.620 for what

01:00:43.020 occurred

01:00:43.380 and put a

01:00:44.220 lot of

01:00:44.440 pressure on

01:00:44.860 Disney

01:00:45.180 and Kimmel

01:00:46.580 getting back

01:00:47.180 on air

01:00:47.620 in no large

01:00:48.840 part was

01:00:49.280 because of

01:00:50.120 people

01:00:51.180 exercising

01:00:52.600 their free

01:00:53.740 speech

01:00:54.140 and pushing 0.99

01:00:55.100 back

01:00:55.680 you mentioned

01:00:56.480 the no kings

01:00:57.040 rally on

01:00:57.560 October 18th

01:00:59.440 you mentioned

01:01:00.080 as well

01:01:00.500 indivisible

01:01:01.040 and other

01:01:01.380 organizations

01:01:01.920 that you've

01:01:02.280 been supporting

01:01:02.860 and we're

01:01:03.760 grateful

01:01:04.120 and you've

01:01:04.520 been champion

01:01:05.340 for so many

01:01:05.980 of these

01:01:06.320 sort of

01:01:08.440 democratic

01:01:08.920 small d

01:01:09.460 organizations

01:01:10.360 all across

01:01:10.960 this country

01:01:11.600 what you

01:01:12.680 know

01:01:12.820 where do

01:01:13.500 you see

01:01:13.920 things going

01:01:14.620 as we

01:01:15.000 map out

01:01:15.500 2026

01:01:16.280 I mean

01:01:16.840 it's pretty

01:01:18.560 clear

01:01:18.960 Trump would

01:01:19.500 have made

01:01:19.800 those phone

01:01:20.280 calls

01:01:20.640 first one

01:01:22.040 being to

01:01:22.360 Greg Abbott

01:01:22.920 said he's

01:01:23.320 entitled to

01:01:23.840 five seats

01:01:24.360 in Texas

01:01:24.840 and those

01:01:25.640 subsequent

01:01:25.980 phone calls

01:01:26.660 so you saw

01:01:27.120 that poor

01:01:27.540 Indiana

01:01:27.900 governor

01:01:28.300 who said

01:01:29.180 I had

01:01:29.480 no choice

01:01:30.040 and he

01:01:30.280 publicly

01:01:30.640 said it

01:01:31.080 out loud

01:01:31.520 because he

01:01:32.260 would take

01:01:32.620 my money

01:01:33.140 just think

01:01:33.840 about that

01:01:34.320 I mean

01:01:34.640 the president

01:01:35.820 saying he's

01:01:36.180 entitled to

01:01:36.760 five seats

01:01:37.360 and I don't

01:01:38.240 think enough

01:01:38.640 people paid

01:01:39.120 attention to

01:01:39.620 what the

01:01:39.880 governor of

01:01:40.260 Indiana

01:01:40.500 said

01:01:40.900 of why

01:01:41.500 he's moving

01:01:42.120 with redistricting

01:01:42.920 just under

01:01:44.000 just the

01:01:44.500 auspices of

01:01:45.280 being threatened

01:01:45.900 with government

01:01:47.760 money

01:01:48.300 what do you

01:01:51.600 make of

01:01:52.360 where we

01:01:53.580 are and

01:01:54.160 where we'll

01:01:54.600 be this

01:01:55.140 time next

01:01:55.760 year

01:01:56.280 in terms of

01:01:57.580 our prospects

01:01:58.300 not only for

01:01:59.660 the house

01:02:00.020 representatives

01:02:00.880 but the

01:02:01.360 United States

01:02:02.020 Senate

01:02:02.380 and how

01:02:03.480 important

01:02:04.440 are these

01:02:05.500 organizing

01:02:06.280 groups

01:02:07.360 the no

01:02:08.240 kings rally

01:02:09.020 and the

01:02:10.080 momentum

01:02:10.560 that we

01:02:11.700 need to

01:02:12.120 build

01:02:12.380 in terms

01:02:12.760 of sharing

01:02:13.240 our voice

01:02:13.720 between now

01:02:14.300 and then

01:02:14.620 in terms

01:02:15.240 of getting

01:02:15.580 back into

01:02:16.100 control and

01:02:16.580 power

01:02:16.820 well you

01:02:17.840 know you

01:02:18.160 mentioned

01:02:19.220 you know

01:02:19.580 before maybe

01:02:20.120 my

01:02:20.480 over optimism

01:02:23.280 about our

01:02:24.280 ability to get

01:02:25.120 Republicans to

01:02:25.960 do the right

01:02:26.340 thing on the

01:02:26.720 shutdown

01:02:27.060 I don't know

01:02:27.520 my feeling

01:02:28.140 is that

01:02:28.600 you know

01:02:29.100 people like

01:02:29.440 you and

01:02:29.660 me kind

01:02:29.980 of have

01:02:30.340 to be

01:02:30.940 absurd

01:02:31.800 optimists 0.95

01:02:32.560 to you

01:02:33.160 know stick

01:02:33.560 in this

01:02:33.840 business

01:02:34.160 for as long

01:02:34.660 as we

01:02:34.940 have

01:02:35.280 but I'm

01:02:35.860 optimistic

01:02:36.460 about a

01:02:37.540 our ability

01:02:38.360 to defend

01:02:38.840 democracy

01:02:39.360 and our

01:02:39.740 ability to

01:02:40.300 win next

01:02:41.500 November

01:02:41.960 yeah I think

01:02:42.580 a lot of it

01:02:43.080 has to do

01:02:43.620 with the success

01:02:44.420 of your effort

01:02:45.160 and the success

01:02:45.840 of other states

01:02:46.920 efforts to try

01:02:47.700 to balance out

01:02:48.700 the harm that

01:02:49.580 they're doing

01:02:50.160 in places like

01:02:51.360 Texas and

01:02:52.220 Indiana but

01:02:53.040 you know there's

01:02:53.860 this really

01:02:54.240 interesting study

01:02:55.080 that was done

01:02:55.520 some years ago

01:02:56.480 that looked at

01:02:57.720 democracies that

01:02:58.880 were crumbling

01:02:59.320 right that were

01:03:00.200 you know being

01:03:00.880 challenged by an

01:03:01.940 elected leader who

01:03:02.860 you know essentially

01:03:03.640 wanted to stay in

01:03:04.420 power forever and

01:03:05.720 what they found

01:03:06.420 what the study

01:03:06.920 found is that

01:03:07.680 there's kind

01:03:08.480 of a magic

01:03:08.980 number a magic

01:03:10.120 number of

01:03:10.520 citizens that

01:03:11.160 once they hit

01:03:11.660 the street

01:03:12.120 end up just

01:03:13.720 putting the

01:03:14.320 sand in the

01:03:14.880 gears of that

01:03:15.920 descent away

01:03:16.520 from the

01:03:16.820 democracy the

01:03:17.480 number is

01:03:17.820 sort of two

01:03:18.300 three percent

01:03:19.020 of the people

01:03:20.780 I think on

01:03:21.540 October 18th

01:03:22.160 we're going to

01:03:22.500 maybe see

01:03:22.900 record numbers

01:03:23.540 of people all

01:03:24.180 around this

01:03:24.600 country standing

01:03:25.260 up and speaking

01:03:25.940 out and that

01:03:27.400 will you know

01:03:28.280 cause just a

01:03:29.040 little bit of

01:03:29.520 concern amongst

01:03:30.360 Republicans who

01:03:31.680 think well maybe

01:03:33.060 this isn't as

01:03:33.980 strong a bet as

01:03:34.940 I thought you

01:03:35.700 know maybe I

01:03:36.140 am going to lose

01:03:36.600 my seat if I

01:03:37.420 continue to

01:03:38.000 endorse this

01:03:39.220 corruption maybe

01:03:40.040 that'll give a

01:03:40.640 little bit more

01:03:41.180 confidence to some

01:03:42.180 corporate CEO or

01:03:43.460 some leader of a

01:03:44.400 school or a law

01:03:45.520 firm out there to

01:03:46.300 say no to the

01:03:47.400 attempts at

01:03:48.220 bullying so I

01:03:49.560 just think it's

01:03:50.080 still in our

01:03:51.020 hands history

01:03:52.100 tells us that when

01:03:52.980 the people stand

01:03:53.980 up something

01:03:55.080 magical happens

01:03:56.220 whether it's

01:03:57.340 fear in the

01:03:58.000 other side

01:03:58.700 courage to

01:03:59.640 allies who

01:04:00.660 had been sitting

01:04:01.160 on the sidelines

01:04:02.040 we still have

01:04:03.680 the ability to

01:04:04.500 save this thing

01:04:05.300 and again you

01:04:06.480 know all you

01:04:07.580 know all credit

01:04:08.820 to what you are

01:04:10.260 doing in

01:04:10.840 California which

01:04:11.620 in many ways is

01:04:12.480 the center of

01:04:13.780 our you know

01:04:14.580 national effort

01:04:15.660 to resist

01:04:17.200 whether it was

01:04:18.480 what you did to

01:04:19.400 raise issue with

01:04:20.920 the deployment of

01:04:21.880 federal troops

01:04:22.760 what you've done to

01:04:23.460 stand up to his

01:04:24.200 uses of spending

01:04:26.120 power to bully

01:04:26.960 states into

01:04:27.540 submission or

01:04:28.300 Prop 50 I

01:04:30.120 think we'll have a

01:04:30.580 big turnout on the

01:04:31.360 18th I think

01:04:33.620 we'll continue to

01:04:34.240 grow indivisible

01:04:35.080 and move on

01:04:35.720 local groups and

01:04:36.760 in the end I

01:04:37.820 think we'll be in

01:04:38.460 a strong position

01:04:39.320 the senate's hard

01:04:40.120 next November no

01:04:41.040 doubt about it

01:04:41.740 like if you had an

01:04:42.620 outcome where we

01:04:43.200 won the house and

01:04:43.760 we didn't win the

01:04:44.420 senate that that

01:04:45.060 would you know

01:04:46.260 spell doom for

01:04:47.400 democracy that would

01:04:48.340 still be a good

01:04:49.000 day but you know

01:04:51.780 if his approval

01:04:52.280 ratings stay down

01:04:53.100 in the low 30s

01:04:54.080 mid 30s we got a

01:04:55.240 chance to you

01:04:56.860 know win places

01:04:57.500 like like Texas

01:04:59.600 flip a couple

01:05:00.960 seats that people

01:05:01.780 maybe weren't

01:05:02.560 expecting in the

01:05:03.280 senate and maybe

01:05:03.780 surprise folks

01:05:04.540 love to hear that

01:05:05.900 optimism and it's a

01:05:06.760 reminder you know

01:05:07.320 justice Brandeis said

01:05:08.340 it better than any

01:05:09.520 of us in a

01:05:10.180 democracy the most

01:05:11.160 important office is

01:05:12.900 office of citizen

01:05:13.860 this notion of active

01:05:15.380 not inert citizenship

01:05:16.400 and we saw that the

01:05:17.900 last big protest a few

01:05:19.920 months back and and I

01:05:21.180 hope on October 18th

01:05:23.280 everybody is hearing

01:05:24.700 Senator Murphy loud and

01:05:25.740 clear the opportunity to

01:05:26.780 really you know not

01:05:28.220 just show up for

01:05:29.280 ourselves but show up

01:05:30.080 for each other show

01:05:30.800 up for our founding

01:05:32.440 fathers they didn't

01:05:33.160 live and die to watch

01:05:34.780 249 years of these

01:05:37.780 enduring principles of

01:05:39.140 you know co-equal

01:05:40.040 branches of government

01:05:40.880 popular sovereignty the

01:05:42.540 rule of law be

01:05:43.380 replaced by as we've

01:05:45.620 said the rule of dawn

01:05:47.200 and so I'm grateful

01:05:49.300 Senator for all your

01:05:50.560 leadership and I

01:05:51.820 encourage everybody

01:05:52.720 listening watching I

01:05:55.140 I don't remember

01:05:55.880 under what was it a

01:05:57.440 blog that you wrote

01:05:58.580 yourself was it

01:05:59.680 published in some

01:06:00.560 fancy magazine but

01:06:03.020 yeah I wrote something

01:06:04.400 yeah I wrote something

01:06:05.620 longer I think it was

01:06:06.520 for I don't remember

01:06:09.380 what it was American

01:06:10.280 prospect I think that's

01:06:11.440 where it was I talked

01:06:12.280 about Google it yeah

01:06:13.500 Google it that's sort

01:06:14.300 of the realignment of

01:06:15.560 America and how you

01:06:16.940 know there's there's a

01:06:17.980 lot of folks out there

01:06:18.900 who want to break out of

01:06:20.300 Trump's camp but need

01:06:21.460 the Democratic Party to

01:06:22.520 feel a little bit more

01:06:24.580 sincere and a little

01:06:25.360 bit more robust in the

01:06:26.620 way that we attack

01:06:27.380 concentrated power so

01:06:29.160 hopefully I'm right

01:06:30.380 I it was it was a long

01:06:32.540 piece and it deserved to

01:06:33.580 be long and it was

01:06:34.620 every word was important

01:06:36.100 and I can't impress upon

01:06:37.560 people more the

01:06:39.000 importance of taking a

01:06:40.300 look at it because you

01:06:41.480 brought in the aperture

01:06:42.380 and you really looked at

01:06:44.260 our party more broadly

01:06:45.360 and connected to cultural

01:06:47.540 issues more larger

01:06:48.760 societal issues not just

01:06:50.500 tactical or situational

01:06:51.860 issues and again I I'll

01:06:54.500 end as I began one of

01:06:56.960 this the the brightest

01:06:58.000 lights in the Democratic

01:06:59.000 Party guy who shows up

01:07:00.620 every single day online

01:07:01.720 offline Senator Chris

01:07:03.380 Murphy thanks for being

01:07:04.280 with us you're my hero

01:07:05.320 man thanks a lot

01:07:06.080 thank you brother

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