This is Gavin Newsom


How To Solve The Climate Crisis With President Clinton


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Bill Clinton and Gavin Newsom are on stage in San Francisco. Bill and Hillary Clinton talk about how they got to where they are now, and why California is the best place in the country to be a politician. They also talk about what it's like to be the first black mayor of a major U.S. city.

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00:00:00.600 This is Gavin Newsom.
00:00:04.660 Please welcome to the stage Governor Gavin Newsom and President Bill Clinton.
00:00:17.760 Morning, everybody. Morning. Morning.
00:00:22.600 Thank you.
00:00:24.180 All right.
00:00:27.180 20 years.
00:00:30.000 I saw that video. I was here, I think, for 19 of, I mean, I've got more Clinton-isms.
00:00:36.420 I'm going to enjoy this. This is going to be so funny.
00:00:39.960 The how business. I like that.
00:00:42.900 I met Gavin Newsom when he was mayor of San Francisco.
00:00:47.680 And he looked like he was 12 years old.
00:00:54.800 And I said, God, I hate this guy. He's so tall.
00:00:57.700 He's taller than I am, younger than I am, better looking than I am.
00:01:02.560 There we go.
00:01:03.960 But what really matters is he's a really good person.
00:01:09.460 I appreciate it.
00:01:10.080 And an extraordinarily gifted public service.
00:01:13.280 And he represents, along with his family.
00:01:19.080 Jennifer, where are you?
00:01:20.780 Stand up.
00:01:21.500 There, ma'am.
00:01:22.380 Better ask.
00:01:22.720 This is what.
00:01:24.880 All right, wife.
00:01:25.920 Thank you.
00:01:27.920 Thank you.
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00:02:19.860 where I embark on a noble quest to understand the brilliant chaos of youth culture.
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00:04:22.300 So I'm going to start with something that is easy, but I think it's important because it's amazing that a lot of people don't know anything about California.
00:04:39.060 Except a lot of people don't know anything about California, except a lot of people don't know anything about California, except a lot of the stuff that's said.
00:04:45.920 Yeah.
00:04:47.640 And I love it.
00:04:49.340 I went to California, I had more problems than you can imagine when I was elected president.
00:04:53.480 I went there 29 times in my first term.
00:04:57.840 Yeah.
00:04:58.060 But they were good to me.
00:05:03.140 And what I found was it was hundreds and hundreds of small towns in the cities and certainly beyond.
00:05:17.360 I've been to the town of America that has the largest percentage of Japanese Americans.
00:05:22.360 I went to a town campaigning for Hillary where the mayor, this little town in Northern California, the mayor was the son of the local judge in Fayetteville, Arkansas,
00:05:39.520 when Hillary and I got married and went there to teach in the law school. 1.00
00:05:44.260 And the old judge was a crusty old guy who let Hillary bring students into the legal aid program for the first time. 0.96
00:05:53.260 And I'm standing in Northern California with the mayor.
00:05:56.480 There's somebody there from everywhere.
00:05:58.240 It's a fascinating place.
00:06:00.960 So tell us, and I think it's now the fourth biggest economy in the world.
00:06:06.460 That's right.
00:06:07.160 Eat your heart out.
00:06:08.420 UK, Germany.
00:06:11.220 That's it.
00:06:11.620 So tell us what you think we should know about what's going right in California.
00:06:20.880 But I appreciate the context.
00:06:23.620 Look, you know, California is America, but only more so.
00:06:31.040 We're the most, in the spirit of your introductory remarks, just to set the scene, it's the size of 21 state populations combined.
00:06:38.940 It's the most diverse state in the world's most diverse democracy.
00:06:42.640 27% of my state is foreign-born.
00:06:47.080 We practice pluralism.
00:06:49.280 It's a point of pride.
00:06:50.800 I say that because it needs to be said, and you reinforce it here today.
00:06:55.460 It's in that diversity that we have achieved so much strength.
00:07:00.660 We dominate in every critical industry.
00:07:03.300 Yes, we're the fourth largest economy in the world, $4.1 trillion a year.
00:07:07.200 But we dominate with more engineers, more scientists, more Nobel laureates, more venture capital, the finest system of higher education, public higher education in the world, in business startups, number one in two-way trade, number one in direct foreign investment.
00:07:20.940 In every category, the dominant manufacturing state, the dominant farming state, the dominant state as it relates to hunting jobs.
00:07:29.200 You didn't know that.
00:07:30.640 Jobs related.
00:07:32.060 In every category, we have no peers.
00:07:34.680 We talk about the future.
00:07:35.840 You're talking about what's next.
00:07:38.460 California is in the future business.
00:07:40.440 But we're also in the spirit of the video in the how business.
00:07:45.080 And so it's not about what and why.
00:07:48.980 And this notion of the future is what animates California.
00:07:53.940 And the future, as you said, final words you said, the word manifest.
00:07:57.420 The future is not something to experience.
00:07:59.200 It's something to manifest.
00:08:00.800 It's decisions, not conditions that determine our fate and future.
00:08:03.840 And I think that mindset is the thing that defines the game played in California versus the game played in many other parts of the country.
00:08:15.080 How have you used that to deal with the fires and the aftermath of it?
00:08:24.800 It depends which fire you're referring to.
00:08:28.260 You know, I was thinking of you coming 29 times.
00:08:33.040 I'm just glad Trump has only come one time.
00:08:37.480 It's a hell of a time for us.
00:08:39.860 Look, as it relates to fires, you know, we talk about the future happens in California first where America's coming to traction.
00:08:46.020 Well, that definitely relates to what's going on around us as it relates to the hot's getting hotter, the dry's getting drier, the wet's getting wetter.
00:08:53.760 This notion that, you know, we're dealing with extreme heat, extreme weather.
00:08:58.600 And as a consequence, the challenges that were presented as it relates to large-scale wildfires.
00:09:03.860 And California had one of its most devastating wildfires earlier this year in the middle of winter.
00:09:11.080 And I just want to remind people, in the middle of winter in Los Angeles, in the most resourced region in the United States of America,
00:09:20.600 more firefighters per capita in L.A. County than any other part of the globe,
00:09:24.760 in a state that has the largest civilian fleet of aircraft for fire suppression anywhere in the world,
00:09:35.160 in a state where I've doubled the budget in terms of the state, fire investments,
00:09:39.860 and 10x the investments in forest management and vegetation management,
00:09:43.840 and yet still we lost 16,000 structures, homes and buildings,
00:09:48.720 because we had a fire that was attached to 100-mile-an-hour winds in the middle of winter in Southern California.
00:09:57.040 And so I take that issue very seriously.
00:10:00.400 Places, lifestyles, traditions being wiped off the map.
00:10:05.340 If you don't believe in science, you've got to believe your own eyes.
00:10:09.040 And this notion, you talk about small towns in California,
00:10:12.560 Grizzly Flats, Greenville, Paradise, California.
00:10:16.020 It's been around 150 years disappearing.
00:10:20.860 And so I'm here with you, also here at the U.N., Climate Week,
00:10:26.120 reasserting California's leadership in this space.
00:10:29.460 In the absence of national leadership, California once again is reasserting itself on low-carbon green growth,
00:10:37.080 reasserting itself in the work we're doing to address the challenges of climate change.
00:10:42.020 And fire is a huge part of it.
00:10:43.760 And if I may just extend, forgive the extended point,
00:10:48.760 we also dominated innovation in this space.
00:10:51.580 And it didn't feel that way in the aftermath of those fires.
00:10:54.020 You're like, what the hell?
00:10:54.760 How did you not prevent these?
00:10:56.700 We had 104 engines that we had prepositioned down there from the state two days in advance.
00:11:00.960 I told you about the resources, next level.
00:11:04.000 Well, the world, literally, we have people from around the globe that come to California to learn about the latest technology,
00:11:10.960 the latest innovation.
00:11:12.500 1,200 AI cameras.
00:11:14.600 We were the first to demonstrate the benefits of those.
00:11:18.380 A fire system.
00:11:19.220 Partnerships with Lockheed, the Pentagon.
00:11:21.220 Next level weather strategies and fusion centers and technology that we've integrated.
00:11:26.320 We've integrated all of those things, drone technology, all of that.
00:11:30.740 And yet still we face the realities of these wildfires.
00:11:37.160 And it's not just in California.
00:11:38.620 It's all over the Western United States, for that matter, across the globe.
00:11:41.740 And I think the issue that is so under-resourced in terms of mindshare is the insurance issue.
00:11:48.740 And I think this issue, I really believe this, from a global perspective, may be one of the most pressing global issues
00:11:58.520 as it relates to the issues of climate change.
00:12:00.860 The inability to purchase a home, let alone to get a mortgage on a home, to develop a home with an insurance market
00:12:08.880 that simply is no longer viable because people are unwilling to take the risk and make the kind of capital outlays
00:12:15.860 and investments to address that issue.
00:12:19.120 I think this issue requires leadership at the national level.
00:12:22.680 It is under-resourced, under-focused.
00:12:24.720 It's a challenge for me.
00:12:26.080 It's a challenge for Ron DeSantis in Florida, for governors in most states.
00:12:31.900 But it's not, I think, top of mind, and we need to be more focused on it.
00:12:44.460 Well, what do you think should be done about it?
00:12:48.300 I mean, I'm not trying to get you into a different job right now.
00:12:52.500 People didn't come here to talk about insurance, but I, you know, we just put out our sustainable insurance strategy.
00:13:01.360 We just had four of our admitted market come back in in the last, in fact, two days ago, we had our fourth come back in.
00:13:08.060 We had a lot of folks who were leaving the market simply said we can't insure folks here.
00:13:11.560 It's too expensive, and the losses are too significant.
00:13:15.040 We had to address the reinsurance market.
00:13:17.060 We had to address the capital needs of these companies.
00:13:20.400 And we also had to address the fact that California, and you wouldn't know this, is among the most affordable insurance markets in the country because the voters initiated a framework on regulation that denied significant rate increases.
00:13:37.940 As a consequence of that, people started exiting the market.
00:13:41.140 And the reforms we've just put into place allow for more rapid rate increases, and that's the pressure point now.
00:13:50.920 As we move from about average to below average in our rates, we're now starting to see those tick up.
00:13:57.460 But the benefit of that now, part of the strategy, is a requirement to come into California market and also to insure in what we refer to as the WUI, which is the wildlife and urban interface, and to cover 85 percent of the WUI in return for those rate increases.
00:14:15.980 That is not something that on the macro is the solution from the U.S. prism or the global perspective, but at the state level is advancing our reforms.
00:14:25.940 But this insurance issue is favoring, facing every state in one form or another in the globe.
00:14:34.520 I mean, it's just, it's not sustainable.
00:14:36.520 And again, it should unite everybody.
00:14:38.280 I mean, there's no Republican, no Democratic thermometer.
00:14:41.780 I heard, you know, and forgive me, I didn't come up here to take cheap shots, but it's pretty remarkable what was said by the current president yesterday at the U.N. about climate.
00:14:53.300 What the hell is that?
00:14:58.020 Seriously.
00:15:00.840 It just, it can't be normalized.
00:15:03.320 It can't be normalized.
00:15:05.160 This notion that it's a hoax.
00:15:08.080 I mean, the vandalism, what this guy has done, look, I live in a state, and Mr. President, you'll appreciate this, you know, former presidents, you know well.
00:15:15.380 For me, one of them was a governor, Ronald Reagan, established the modern environmental movement in 1967, year of my birth with the California Air Resources Board.
00:15:25.160 And he did so because of the smog in Los Angeles was a business-driven decision.
00:15:29.860 Business community said we simply can't do business in L.A., Mr. Governor.
00:15:34.020 And he established the Air Resources Board.
00:15:36.400 Three years later, it was Richard Nixon that codified that under the Clean Air Act and gave California a waiver that allowed us to pursue aggressive environmental policy.
00:15:47.380 And that's why California has dominated the national debate in this space.
00:15:51.240 What this president has done in eight months is jaw-dropping.
00:15:58.620 What he has done to the EPA, what he's done to California's leadership, he's neutralized, he's eliminated under that Clean Air Act our authority to regulate tailpipe emissions.
00:16:10.860 What he continues to do in terms of trying to stop California's global leadership as it relates to our partnerships around not only the country at a subnational level, but around the globe in relationship to our cap and trade program, in relationship to our other partnerships that we've established as it relates to carbon capture and direct air capture and the technology in the space, cannot be understated.
00:16:40.200 And so we are, you know, we're the last, we're the only game in town right now as it relates to large-scale environmental leadership.
00:16:48.740 And I'll just close on this.
00:16:50.320 We have six times more green collar jobs, green tech jobs, than we do fossil fuel jobs.
00:16:55.400 We're on the other side of the debate.
00:16:57.480 And I think this is a point that should be emphasized.
00:17:00.820 You talk about California more than I emphasize it.
00:17:04.220 67% of our electricity grid is completely green and clean.
00:17:08.480 And we have run, which is not bad, but get this, nine out of 10 days in 2025, we've run the fourth largest economy in the world at 100% clean green energy.
00:17:23.120 100%.
00:17:23.680 As of last Friday, 217 out of 243 days, 100% clean energy.
00:17:30.880 We're proving the paradigm, you know, the genius of and versus the tyranny of or.
00:17:38.160 And I think, you know, there's power in emulation, successless lead clues.
00:17:43.400 And I think California has been an interesting and a successful model in this space.
00:17:47.820 And we're just trying to navigate this new space as it relates to the macrohead winds coming from 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.
00:17:54.620 Tell our audience here a little more about what the components of your clean energy are.
00:18:08.860 Well, I think the thing that we've dominated in is the electricity architecture.
00:18:16.120 And we've dominated in clean cars.
00:18:18.120 I signed the first executive order in the United States to require alternative fuel vehicles by 2035.
00:18:24.860 That was just taken away by Congress, the supine Congress and the president.
00:18:32.040 But we created the market.
00:18:34.660 There is no Elon Musk.
00:18:35.720 There's no Tesla without California's regulatory framework.
00:18:39.700 Period.
00:18:40.000 Full stop.
00:18:40.580 It wouldn't exist.
00:18:41.340 It was because of the regulations, because of those signals and the subsidies, over $3.2 billion direct subsidies that Tesla received, just in my state alone, that built this market.
00:19:01.760 Over a quarter of all new car purchases in California are alternative fuel vehicles.
00:19:05.760 What Trump has just done, and with respect to some of the automobile manufacturers, is they've ceded this to China.
00:19:12.980 They've ceded our competitiveness to China.
00:19:16.300 And it's not just the electric vehicles.
00:19:18.340 It's the tech stack that's part of these electric vehicles.
00:19:21.880 It's the mobility space more broadly defined.
00:19:24.720 It is an act of vandalism on an economic basis, not just an environmental basis, that is deeply alarming.
00:19:33.180 And I hope people wake up to how China is just flooding the zone globally in this space. 1.00
00:19:39.960 And we have doubled down on stupid. 0.99
00:19:42.580 We're trying to recreate the 19th century. 1.00
00:19:45.080 We really have.
00:19:46.160 You talk about what's next.
00:19:47.960 It's not going to be American automobile manufacturers.
00:19:51.400 Bill Ford may run contrary to that.
00:19:56.620 He seems to get it deeply.
00:19:58.200 I give him tremendous credit.
00:20:01.080 Remarkable, iconic brand.
00:20:03.360 But I cannot impress upon you more how proud I am.
00:20:05.780 Sixty headquartered manufacturer of EV companies in the state of California.
00:20:09.600 Supply chain was one of our biggest exports five years ago.
00:20:12.700 And it's all about innovation.
00:20:14.640 It's all about that entrepreneurial spirit. 0.99
00:20:16.280 And you see, if any of you have been to San Francisco, half the damn cars are driving themselves. 0.98
00:20:24.800 It's here. 0.99
00:20:25.840 It's happening.
00:20:27.000 All the bi-directional opportunities, the two-way charging, the fact that these cars are little power plants on wheels.
00:20:33.700 All this extraordinary opportunity.
00:20:35.560 And it's slipping away because of bad policymaking and short-termism.
00:20:39.820 So, we're going to continue to push back against that.
00:20:42.560 But I think from a tech and innovation stack, that's our biggest area of focus.
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00:21:22.180 The forces shaping the world's economies and financial markets can be hard to spot.
00:21:26.960 Even though they are such a powerful player in finance,
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00:21:33.240 And even harder to understand.
00:21:35.580 Donald Trump's trade war, 2.0, is only accelerating the process of de-dollarization.
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00:22:27.700 Hey there, I'm Kyle McLaughlin.
00:22:31.740 You might know me as that guy from Twin Peaks, Sex and the City, or just the Internet's dad.
00:22:37.420 I have a new podcast called What Are We Even Doing?
00:22:41.380 where I embark on a noble quest to understand the brilliant chaos of youth culture.
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00:22:47.740 Each week, I invite someone fascinating to join me.
00:22:51.460 Actors, musicians, creatives, highly evolved digital life forms.
00:22:56.720 And we talk about what they love.
00:22:58.580 Sometimes I'll drizzle a little honey in there, too, if I'm feeling sexy in the morning.
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00:23:03.200 And you're maybe my biggest competition on social media.
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00:23:34.880 The Crying Wolf Podcast is the story of two men bound by injustice.
00:23:40.100 Of a city haunted by its secrets.
00:23:43.360 And the quest for redemption.
00:23:45.320 No matter the price.
00:23:46.940 White victim. 0.81
00:23:48.140 Female.
00:23:49.020 Pretty.
00:23:49.900 Wealthy. 0.95
00:23:50.680 Black defendant. 0.85
00:23:52.100 Chicago. 0.99
00:23:53.040 A white woman's murder. 0.96
00:23:54.560 A black man behind bars. 0.99
00:23:56.240 For a crime he didn't commit. 0.99
00:23:58.800 I got 90 years for killing somebody I have never seen.
00:24:02.980 He says the police are his friends, and then that's it.
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00:24:07.180 A corrupt detective.
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00:24:10.200 That's crazy.
00:24:11.200 A snitch and a life stolen.
00:24:13.100 They got the wrong guy.
00:24:14.260 But on the inside, Lee Harris finds an ally in his celly, Robert, who swears to tell the truth about what happened to Lee and free his friend.
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00:24:41.400 Here we go.
00:24:43.580 Hey, I'm Cal Penn, and on my new podcast, Here We Go Again, we'll take today's trends and headlines and ask, why does history keep repeating itself?
00:24:53.540 You may know me as the second hottest actor from the Harold and Kumar movies, but I'm also an author, a White House staffer, and as of like 15 seconds ago, a podcast host.
00:25:03.960 Along the way, I've made some friends who are experts in science, politics, and pop culture.
00:25:09.060 And each week, one of them will be joining me to answer my burning questions.
00:25:13.920 Like, are we heading towards another financial crash like in 08?
00:25:17.660 Is non-monogamy back in style?
00:25:19.660 And how come there's never a gate ready for your flight when it lands like two minutes early?
00:25:24.240 We've got guests like Pete Buttigieg, Stacey Abrams, Lilly Singh, and Bill Nye.
00:25:29.300 When you start weaponizing outer space, things can potentially go really wrong.
00:25:34.680 Look, the world can seem pretty scary right now, because it is.
00:25:38.740 But my goal here is for you to listen and feel a little better about the future.
00:25:43.360 Listen and subscribe to Here We Go Again with Cal Penn on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
00:25:52.200 To say a little bit about, as a practical matter, where you are right now with AI.
00:25:59.600 And is there, has there been any obvious downside?
00:26:05.400 And if so, what is it and how should we manage it?
00:26:09.220 Well, and I sound like I'm bloviating and I can get into all the real problems in my state, affordability being number one, two, three.
00:26:17.360 But we dominate in artificial intelligence.
00:26:19.940 We have no peers.
00:26:21.020 32 of the top 50 market cap companies on the globe, in the globe, are in California.
00:26:26.700 And for obvious reasons.
00:26:30.860 Back to this conveyor belt for talent, the UCs and the CSUs and Caltech and Stanford University, research and development, the Lawrence Livermore Labs and Sandia Labs and all the investments we're making in science.
00:26:42.540 And so it's happening there because the human capital's there.
00:26:46.200 It's why, you know, Elon talks a big game about Texas, but all his folks are in the Bay Area.
00:26:51.160 They're all in California.
00:26:53.020 All those AI folks are there.
00:26:54.420 His global headquarters for R&D is in California, which, by the way, is 18% of the globe's R&D.
00:27:01.480 China, Germany, and California.
00:27:04.040 18% of the global R&D in the state of California.
00:27:07.740 So it's unsurprising we're driving that innovation.
00:27:12.200 But it's all about truth.
00:27:13.460 It's all about trust.
00:27:14.900 Promise.
00:27:15.740 Peril.
00:27:15.980 And as a consequence of having so much leadership residing in such a concentrated place, California, we have a sense of responsibility and accountability to lead so we support risk-taking but not recklessness.
00:27:29.200 From a regulatory frame, we're pretty much the only game in town as well.
00:27:34.160 You're seeing what they're trying to do federally to preempt states from regulating.
00:27:39.960 Ted Cruz a few days ago doubling down on that, that California needs to be neutered, he says, in this space, even though we're dominating in this space.
00:27:49.100 And so we have worked with Fei-Fei Li, the godmother of AI, we're working with Stanford, MIT, we've worked with Berkeley, and we put out a comprehensive white paper that really analyzed where we were from a regulatory frame.
00:28:03.440 We've signed dozens, I've signed dozens of bills in this space, did the first executive order in the country in this space, but in relationship to the unwinding of President Biden's leadership in this space and the new focus on just let it rip coming out of the White House that David Sachs and others are promoting.
00:28:22.620 And we have a bill, forgive me, that's on my desk that we think strikes the right balance.
00:28:29.960 And we worked with industry, but we didn't submit to industry.
00:28:35.760 We're not doing things to them, but we're not doing things necessarily for them.
00:28:40.780 And we're trying to answer that question from a policy perspective and find that right balance where we can continue to dominate in this space, continue to support the ecosystem, at the same time address that peril and the concerns that legitimate people have.
00:28:56.120 I want to change the subject a minute.
00:29:01.640 Back to insurance.
00:29:02.860 Now, everywhere in the country, we read that now men are alienated, that they're not going to college as much as they did.
00:29:20.840 They're not necessarily prepared for other jobs they can have.
00:29:26.960 And you actually tried to address this in a fairly comprehensive way.
00:29:33.040 And I'd be surprised if almost anybody in the audience who's not from California knows anything about it.
00:29:40.300 So tell us a little about what you've tried to do to help young men.
00:29:45.300 Well, you, I'm going back to your opening remarks.
00:29:50.980 Look, I was here 20 years ago because you tapped me on the shoulder of part of America's promise.
00:29:58.540 You tapped me on the shoulder in a bipartisan way with General Powell.
00:30:02.820 And I'll never forget General Powell coming here and said,
00:30:04.700 no one stands taller than when he or she bends down on one knee to lift someone else up.
00:30:08.340 I love that.
00:30:09.020 I wrote that down.
00:30:10.260 And I repeat it all the time.
00:30:11.420 California now has a service corps that's larger than the Peace Corps.
00:30:18.060 It's the largest service corps in America.
00:30:20.040 College Corps, Climate Corps, in every category.
00:30:22.800 Building on your work.
00:30:24.480 Building on AmeriCorps.
00:30:26.020 So we just announced to your question,
00:30:29.000 in order to address the crisis of men and boys,
00:30:33.760 the crisis of men and boys.
00:30:35.920 And I say that because it's hard for members of my own party to say that.
00:30:41.900 Because we, some feel it's a zero-sum game.
00:30:45.000 That we have to address the issues of women and girls
00:30:47.260 and solve for them before we can get to the crisis of men and boys.
00:30:51.480 And when I say crisis, look at the suicide rates.
00:30:53.500 Look at the dropout rates.
00:30:54.660 Look at the deaths of despair.
00:30:56.080 Look at the issues around loneliness.
00:30:58.400 Look at every critical category.
00:30:59.920 It's just blinking red lights for young men.
00:31:06.480 And in order to address this, we've been working with Richard Reeves.
00:31:09.620 We've been working with Institute of Boys and Men.
00:31:11.320 We've been working with a lot of other folks to develop a framework,
00:31:15.740 a plan to implement that builds on the constructs that you have framed
00:31:22.080 around service, around mentorship, around tutoring.
00:31:26.700 The work my wife has done, who's done a number of documentaries in this space,
00:31:31.580 including one called Masculivin, about the crisis of masculinity.
00:31:35.920 And begin to subsequently address these underlying issues and target interventions.
00:31:42.540 Service is at the core, but it's a component part of a larger strategy
00:31:46.540 that we've just advanced at scale in California.
00:31:49.680 And I'll just end on this.
00:31:50.740 I know our time's up.
00:31:51.520 But just as an example, one of the areas that I never fully appreciated
00:31:56.700 was the lack of men educating our kids.
00:32:01.320 I didn't fully appreciate how few men are in those kindergarten classes,
00:32:06.720 in those second, third grade classes, in middle schools.
00:32:10.440 And so it begins with just simple interventions.
00:32:14.460 But we also have to acknowledge it.
00:32:15.840 Final word.
00:32:16.360 I love the open hand, not a closed fist.
00:32:21.280 You know, I got a lot of closed fists when I did a podcast I started a few months ago.
00:32:26.940 And my first guest was Charlie Kirk, who flew out and visited with me.
00:32:32.220 And second was Steve Bannon.
00:32:34.140 And the reason I had them on was this issue.
00:32:41.480 Because they have weaponized this grievance.
00:32:45.360 And electorally, they achieved remarkable results.
00:32:50.720 Charlie Kirk's ability, what he was able to achieve in terms of organizing the campuses,
00:32:55.920 engaging these young men, addressing their grievances,
00:32:59.020 giving them some sense of hope that someone cared, that they mattered,
00:33:03.000 that they were seen, he was able to produce and organize around that in a deeply meaningful way.
00:33:10.960 And the Democratic Party was nowhere to be found on the issue.
00:33:14.000 And Bannon as well.
00:33:15.820 And so I say that to say this.
00:33:18.140 We need to address the issue because it's the right thing to do,
00:33:21.180 but it's also the smart thing to do.
00:33:23.260 We have to wrap up, but if you were to say to this crowd,
00:33:42.520 you have lots of concerns, you know a lot about everything,
00:33:49.940 which is why I like talking to you.
00:33:52.340 But a group like this, if we could emphasize one thing
00:34:00.640 that we could do in America in the midst of all this political BS
00:34:06.700 that we're dealing with every day, what would you ask us to do?
00:34:10.900 What do you think the most important thing in terms of citizen action is
00:34:14.940 that we could be doing?
00:34:16.160 I remember Justice Brandeis had a wonderful quote.
00:34:23.540 He wrote a lot about citizenship.
00:34:25.840 Said, in a democracy, the most important office, Brandeis said,
00:34:29.260 is not the office of presidency, with respect, certainly not governor or mayor,
00:34:33.200 but it's the office of citizen.
00:34:35.360 This notion of active, not inert citizenship.
00:34:37.980 And I think at the core of that is this idea that we have agency,
00:34:43.900 that we can shape the future, that we're not bystanders in the world.
00:34:46.900 And I think back to the spirit of your opening remarks,
00:34:50.080 is this notion that we have the capacity to shape our future,
00:34:58.180 and we also have to recognize that we have to reconcile each other's futures
00:35:02.880 in relationship, and forgive me, I'm closing with my deep CGI,
00:35:07.100 by absorbing what you've been about for all these years,
00:35:12.260 this idea that divorce is not an option, as you say all the time.
00:35:16.940 We have to define the terms of our future.
00:35:20.100 And I think that spirit of grace and humility is also part of that as well.
00:35:25.720 And so I just, I thank you, in final words, you know,
00:35:30.180 two decades of preaching this gospel, but also practicing it.
00:35:34.020 And I just think at this precious moment in our life,
00:35:38.260 we need to be reminded that we all want to be loved,
00:35:41.460 we all need to be loved.
00:35:42.680 We all share, as you said, this same short moment in life.
00:35:47.420 We all want to be protected, we all want to be respected,
00:35:49.760 we all want to be connected to something larger than ourselves.
00:35:51.960 And I think in that space, we find the answer to your question.
00:36:00.200 A long time ago, when I met the mayor of San Francisco,
00:36:17.860 I came home and told Hillary, I said,
00:36:24.160 you know, I wanted to dislike this guy.
00:36:33.520 I mean, he's good looking and he's tall.
00:36:38.220 He's younger than I am.
00:36:39.700 But there's something special about him.
00:36:45.220 I still believe that.
00:36:47.300 And I thank you for your service.
00:36:49.360 And I thank you for being here.
00:36:50.920 Let's give him a hand.
00:36:51.560 Thank you.
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00:37:33.520 Hey, I'm Cal Penn.
00:37:35.100 And on my new podcast, Here We Go Again,
00:37:37.280 we'll take today's trends and headlines and ask,
00:37:40.140 why does history keep repeating itself?
00:37:43.240 Each week, I'm calling up my friends
00:37:45.020 like Bill Nye, Lilly Singh, and Pete Buttigieg
00:37:47.800 to talk about everything from the space race
00:37:50.440 to movie remakes to psychedelics.
00:37:52.740 Put another way, are you high?
00:37:55.600 Look, the world can seem pretty scary right now.
00:37:58.320 But my goal here is for you to listen
00:38:00.340 and feel a little better about the future.
00:38:02.860 Listen and subscribe to Here We Go Again
00:38:04.700 with Cal Penn on the iHeartRadio app,
00:38:06.880 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
00:38:09.300 Hey, I'm Kyle McLaughlin.
00:38:11.760 You might know me as that guy from Twin Peaks,
00:38:14.320 Sex and the City, or just the internet stand.
00:38:16.760 I have a new podcast called
00:38:18.800 What Are We Even Doing?
00:38:20.840 where I embark on a noble quest
00:38:22.940 to understand the brilliant chaos of youth culture.
00:38:26.840 Each week, I invite someone fascinating
00:38:28.940 to join me to talk about navigating
00:38:30.640 this high-speed rollercoaster we call reality.
00:38:34.340 Join me and my delightful guests every Thursday,
00:38:36.580 and let's get weird together in a good way.
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