This Past Weekend with Theo Von - #588 - Vice President JD Vance

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00:00:53.520 Today's guest is the Vice President of the United States of America.

00:00:57.000 He was previously a senator from the state of Ohio before winning the presidency with Donald

00:01:02.600 Trump in 2024.

00:01:04.940 We are coming to you from Nashville, Tennessee, from the Detroit Cowboy, a new restaurant here.

00:01:11.360 I'm grateful for his return to our podcast.

00:01:14.500 Today's guest is Vice President J.D. Vance.

00:01:17.820 I'll be coming to you from Nashville, Tennessee.

00:01:20.080 Shine on me.

00:01:21.560 Tell me.

00:01:22.260 And I will find a song.

00:01:25.600 I've been singing, can I bli-

00:01:27.020 to be clear no i'm not i don't care at all look we believe in the first amendment if the secret

00:01:39.600 service has to hit me hit me hard brother you know what i'm saying and hit two other people

00:01:46.000 i want a class action suit oh holy shit look there's a there's a literal lion right there

00:01:52.000 like a lion skin i hadn't seen have you noticed that before no i think it's is that a lion or it's a

00:01:58.900 sorry i know we're supposed to start this no it's okay no you're good i'm just there's hand signals

00:02:02.840 and stuff going on on my group i'm just trying to get everybody to chill out so i can okay yeah

00:02:07.700 i just didn't know my bad fuck now i ruined everything dude we had a really good vibe going

00:02:14.520 you're just totally it's like my childhood dude i just something i said right out of the gate ruined

00:02:20.740 it that's what my mom said to me when i was like something you said to me right when i met you

00:02:25.860 really ruined our relationship and i'm like when i was what 11 months old your mom said that to you

00:02:32.680 yeah she's just kind of a uh she's a mid you know she's just a good grudge holder you know and she's

00:02:37.860 midwestern so she's got a good grip on it yeah my mom's a good grudge holder too but uh yeah i don't

00:02:43.160 think that she's ever held anything that i said at 11 months against her though that's pretty i mean

00:02:47.320 that's that's tough man your mom is the champion oh she wins man she definitely wins um yeah this

00:02:57.320 is kid rock's place dude yeah it's cool there's a line over there that i don't think people can see

00:03:03.220 there's two foxes over there you would love this place is my kids oh dude kid rock is one of the

00:03:08.760 freaking he is definitely a damn piss lizard he is a beautiful guy he's a good dude he's definitely

00:03:14.740 the kind of guy i feel like he would sing it like a um i'm trying to think what would you have kid

00:03:19.360 rock sing at i know like a concert but i'm trying to think of a different type of event or something

00:03:23.980 i mean he could sing in the orchestra or not okay dude my wife now because i'm the vice president

00:03:31.180 she's on the board of the kennedy center we could bring kid rock to sing in the opera really yeah oh wow

00:03:37.440 that's gonna be interesting oh you gotta fumigate you gotta fumigate that place after that's all i'm

00:03:42.740 saying dude just because so so my my cousin uh her one request from the campaign is that she wanted

00:03:49.820 to party with kid rock and i feel kind of bad i didn't bring her i brought her you remember the

00:03:53.880 first time we did your podcast my cousin was with me oh yeah i met her she's blonde right yeah yeah

00:03:58.740 she's good people and she said i really want to party with kid rock she said she wanted to party

00:04:03.400 with kid rock and hunter biden and unfortunately i haven't made either one of those happen yet but

00:04:07.500 we'll see there's a lot of time left wow i don't know if there's that much time left for

00:04:11.300 either one of those guys though that's really what i would what were we talking about before

00:04:15.540 we started dude oh yeah you saw that hand thing remember by huberman i did see this yeah who was

00:04:20.860 that what's his name huberman andrew huberman yeah okay yeah he's um and the problem was so

00:04:27.120 another doctor told me we might have had our hand backwards so there's like a millions of people in

00:04:31.800 america oh doing like a potentially like homoerotic test on themselves based on okay so anyway it's your

00:04:39.680 index finger is supposed to be longer than your ring finger right i think i'm not sure yes that's

00:04:44.580 how mine is okay is my i mean like my pointer finger is longer than my look i'm just saying

00:04:49.820 there's a lot of guys afraid to get out of their truck at work today probably you know that's all

00:04:53.640 i mean there there are because i mean millions of people watch your podcast there are probably

00:05:00.720 hundreds of thousands of dudes maybe more who stared at their hand and were like oh no

00:05:04.820 oh i saw one guy pulled his finger out of socket just to lie to his wife again

00:05:10.120 i mean these are the steps people are going to especially with this health care

00:05:14.320 yeah that's right you know i mean you got to do what you can i'm like dude you're gonna have to

00:05:18.160 put that back in yourself you know yeah yeah but i don't think it works like that though right

00:05:23.700 the causality i think if you like jerk your finger out of the socket it doesn't really change

00:05:28.000 anything oh then you have a broken finger i don't look man not that i'm judging of course

00:05:32.260 all every you know live and let live that's look dude if you're a gay guy i think if you can put

00:05:37.300 you've you've put more than your finger back in socket i'm saying you can handle that that's all

00:05:42.340 i'm saying so that right there i think is a good test i think my great great grandfather

00:05:47.080 i'm not sure if he was gay but people thought he was gay or whatever just from the pictures of him

00:05:50.980 your great great great grandfather yeah man i don't think i know anything about my great great

00:05:56.900 great grandfather well he fought in the civil war he did probably for both sides i bet

00:06:02.100 huh you know what i'm talking about okay so there's a database there's actually there's a

00:06:06.700 website i think it's like an american history or smithsonian somebody keeps up a database where

00:06:12.880 you can go in and type your name and you can see how many people with your last name fought in the

00:06:17.820 civil war hell yeah and i did that on both sides of my family mom and dad's side it was kind of crazy

00:06:22.700 how many and or how many people with the same name at least fought in the civil war oh i'm sure on but

00:06:27.360 on i mean like on both sides there was some confederates there was some union yeah who would you have

00:06:31.540 fought for you thing sorry i'm joking we're not going to start there i'm a big fan of abraham lincoln

00:06:36.860 i would have i would have fought i would have fought for the union um it's it's interesting man so

00:06:43.120 the you you go back in time to like even so when i grew up right the story that we told so i grew up

00:06:51.880 in southern ohio and the story that sort of we took learned in ohio history and american history was

00:06:56.160 basically the union was the union side was right but you know we're all part of the same team after

00:07:02.920 the civil war we all came together shook hands and you know kumbaya and you could even like respect the

00:07:08.620 other side even if you didn't necessarily agree with what they were fighting for yeah and i feel

00:07:12.000 like something happened like 10 years ago where every it's like you have to think that every single

00:07:16.780 person who fought for the confederate side was an evil person i just think that's so stupid yeah well

00:07:22.300 i think uh you know i know there was a time when they tore down all the statues and stuff and erased

00:07:26.100 like a lot of the history i think a lot of people would debate about the value of erasing history

00:07:30.900 you know it's like a point because it feels like it's there for a purpose and it feels like it deserves

00:07:34.960 to be there even though like later on in life you might be or later on in time people might be like

00:07:40.320 ashamed of it or think of it differently yeah that's right it feels like it at least earned its place

00:07:44.200 in existence yeah um so did you ever see this there's this documentary on the civil war by ken burns it

00:07:50.480 was on pbs oh yeah it's got like the really sad violin music and uh i actually met the couple that

00:07:56.500 composed that song from the ken burns documentary it's like it's a beautiful song honestly yeah but

00:08:01.860 it seems sad as hell to sit around with your wife all day listening to that shit good god let's just

00:08:07.480 let's sit here and listen to all five minutes of it in total silence me and you and all these producers

00:08:12.900 look i i i so my wife who you know her family came from south india and then immigrated and then

00:08:21.000 she was born in san diego like i watched that documentary with my wife actually i think when

00:08:26.440 we were still dating we weren't even married yet and it's like such a good summary of everything

00:08:32.040 that happened in the civil war yeah and you get this sense it's sad and it's heartbreaking you know

00:08:36.280 they read letters from some guy home to his family and it's just it's it captures the tragedy of the

00:08:42.620 civil war and my wife made this point actually a few years ago she was like if you showed that

00:08:46.980 documentary maybe not now but like at the height of the woke thing so call it 2021 you show that

00:08:53.080 documentary in 2021 there are a lot of things they would try to cancel ken burns over because you know

00:08:59.080 like a confederate soldier wrote a wrote a letter home and it's sad and it's tragic and you try to

00:09:03.900 empathize with that person and that was that's like that wasn't okay in 2021 and i think that's

00:09:09.740 actually one of the best things that's happened in the country the last few years is people are just

00:09:14.400 done filtering themselves right and they're done like being canceled or being afraid to say what's

00:09:20.660 on their mind yeah that's a good thing yeah that's a great point man dude i'll tell you this i heard

00:09:24.520 that frederick douglas um i heard frederick douglas was gay and i'll tell you who told you that i've

00:09:33.760 heard it from almost probably almost 15 not 15 people i've heard it from four people where do

00:09:37.760 you go to find uh the people who tell you that frederick douglas is gay at least you know look

00:09:41.780 i'll tell you this you must hang out more interesting places than it wasn't white people that told me

00:09:45.280 really so okay out of the gate i have given a little bit more credibility and that's why he

00:09:49.160 wanted to free all those men because he was having trouble meeting anybody it's right because

00:09:54.480 everybody was at work that's you know i'm gonna talk i'm gonna talk jd vance congratulations dude

00:10:01.220 we're gonna talk to the smithsonian about putting up an exhibit on that and theo vaughn you can be

00:10:07.000 the narrator for this new this new understanding of the history of frederick douglas dude no uh

00:10:13.460 congratulations dude you have such a dry sense of humor that sometimes you say something to me and i'm

00:10:17.580 like was he was he screwing with me or was he actually being serious but when you think about it

00:10:22.480 though he seemed awfully particular about getting them fellas off off work early i yeah i think so

00:10:29.620 probably probably not for the reasons you're suggesting but i don't know and if he was

00:10:34.020 then more power to him dude i think we need uh i don't know i'm not getting this is it's just

00:10:39.160 getting worse for me you're still good um congratulations man on being vice president

00:10:43.760 thanks man that's awesome that's so crazy man it's just like um it's i just can't even like i can

00:10:49.920 believe it but it's just like i can't you can't no man it's crazy what about that first the first

00:10:56.100 night you won what did y'all do y'all get high y'all didn't get high i'm not if i did i wouldn't

00:11:02.200 say it for public consumption no i did not get high i did not get i mean i did have a fair amount to

00:11:06.780 drink that night hell yeah dude first time i stayed at a hampton inn that had two beds those double beds

00:11:11.820 in one room yeah you gotta find an excuse to celebrate whatever whatever one arises but i uh

00:11:17.940 yeah take us down that okay all right here's here's here's what happens so we're in mar-a-lago

00:11:21.380 okay so first of all we had a puppy about 18 months ago okay and i didn't even think about it but the

00:11:28.980 puppy's birthday is november the 5th which happens to be the day of the election so our puppy's first

00:11:33.580 birthday is november the 5th so we're at mar-a-lago yeah with donald trump and donald trump has his

00:11:39.080 chef send our dog a birthday cake and i'm you know it's i'm so nervous you know i'm thinking

00:11:44.860 about the election results and i'm trying to get you know i'm calling my guys up and saying oh do

00:11:48.760 we have any any early returns like what's going on and this like rice dog birthday cake shows up at

00:11:54.240 mar-a-lago and i'm like what the hell is going on you know the president it's interesting he he

00:11:58.640 compartmentalizes things very well so he just doesn't get like really stressed out he's very stoic about

00:12:03.420 everything right whereas i was a little bit more nervous so anyway so polls close i'm sitting there

00:12:08.400 with like my wife and all my best friends from back home come down to mar-a-lago to watch except

00:12:14.460 for my one buddy nate i still give him crap because nate nate couldn't make the trip why he couldn't

00:12:18.780 make the trip man he had you know he had to take care of his kid or something like that he's a good

00:12:21.920 dude he's a good dude put his kid in a van dude you have to go to that and do what with her huh

00:12:28.240 pay the valet to help out i don't know anyway sorry nate so we're never mind i don't know

00:12:33.680 trust me nate's a good dude he's a good dude he's a fan of yours actually oh anyway so we're

00:12:39.040 watching we're watching the election returns and i'm getting updates because there it's crazy dude

00:12:46.120 there's a whole data apparatus that is feeding information into the central campaign so like

00:12:52.360 whatever the media is reporting on we're like 15 minutes ahead of time and we're asking questions

00:12:57.180 like oh there's this i'll never forget this there's this one little county in indiana that produced

00:13:02.280 election results early and we were like oh my god we did so much better in that county

00:13:07.360 than than we did in 2020 or even 2016 yeah and so that's a pretty good sign and what happened is as

00:13:14.520 these counties trickle in you realize we're doing way better than we did even in 2016 like oh my god

00:13:19.820 donald trump's gonna be the president and i'm gonna be the vice president united states and that was

00:13:23.380 nuts and i was there was actually with uh with my wife so we so once you do you put your hands in

00:13:30.120 your pockets or would you even do i don't know what i did with my hands man i was i was like it

00:13:35.300 was like you know uh talladega nights right i'm just not sure what to do with my hands all night

00:13:40.380 so we go over to the hotel where they're doing like the victory celebration and i'm there with

00:13:44.420 like don jr and tucker carlson and a few other people who are sort of in the world of politics

00:13:49.400 and they called pennsylvania and i didn't realize that like the the tv called pennsylvania and i

00:13:56.200 didn't realize that i was just talking to my wife and the crowd goes wild so you hear people cheering

00:14:00.940 and i'm like what the hell happened and i look over the tv i'm like oh my god it's official and that

00:14:06.060 was one that was one of the craziest moments god yeah yeah the feeling at that moment one it was

00:14:12.560 incredible but then you you have this overwhelming sense of like oh my god we're the dog that caught the

00:14:17.740 car right and now you have to do a good job yeah and it's not you know it's not like some some

00:14:24.340 random job it's like a really important job and so i just have this kind of sense of oh my god

00:14:28.460 this is real now well you're moving to another class this is i mean shit you're having your dog

00:14:32.740 used to getting cakes for his birthday now you know what i'm saying like things are changing man

00:14:37.140 um do you stay where do you stay at because if trump stays if the president stays in the white

00:14:44.120 house where do you stay at yeah so you should come visit you have an open invitation uh the

00:14:49.540 president actually gives me crap about this because he says sometimes i think you have a nicer house

00:14:53.160 than i do we stay at a place we call the vpr the vice president's residence but it's in the naval

00:14:57.520 observatory so we've got like probably 40 or so acres of completely private space in an observatory

00:15:04.100 yeah and across the street tom huh bro no no bring me in dude peeping tom on stars and

00:15:12.020 dude i got a small ladder i'll set that whole neighborhood ablaze picture of our house dude

00:15:16.040 nobody will buy a new bra in that neighborhood without me knowing it dude i swear to god brother

00:15:19.840 the telescopes are pouring towards the stars the way but anyway so we we live there so we got three

00:15:27.460 little kids and like i said a dog wow and uh it's very cool though we did actually so a couple weeks

00:15:32.600 ago the president invited me and my wife we had a i think i think it was my stepmom was in town

00:15:38.820 and the president invited me and my wife to stay in the lincoln bedroom and i was like oh that's like

00:15:44.000 really cool of course i want to go stay at the lincoln bedroom so apparently though a vice president

00:15:48.620 had never stayed at the white house with the president before and so the secret service wasn't

00:15:53.160 totally sure what to do because they didn't have like the processes but yeah we went to the white

00:15:56.980 house we stayed at the lincoln bedroom he don't stay up late uh we did actually but because it was

00:16:01.420 kind of scary right i mean you're like laying in the room there's a desk where you know the president's

00:16:06.180 like that's the desk where lincoln wrote the emancipation proclamation like i thought it would

00:16:10.640 be cooler and and more fun but you're kind of just laying there and it's like you know there are ghosts

00:16:16.020 feels like there's ghosts everywhere yeah it's just a kind of a creepy feeling to be in the literal

00:16:21.500 bedroom of abraham lincoln i mean you think about it that dude went to the ford's theater to go see a

00:16:26.720 play left that room but never came back right that's pretty that's that's creepy stuff yeah yeah

00:16:31.840 dang dude speaking frederick douglas yeah and yeah we've come full circle look i'll just say this

00:16:37.880 there's photos when he was signing that you saw frederick in the distance just biggest really happy

00:16:43.880 biggest smile biggest smile on the joint um so damn you slept so you might be the first vice president

00:16:49.720 that ever slept in the white house that's what they told us i don't know you know that's maybe it

00:16:53.260 had happened like 30 years ago but did y'all stay up late with the trumps and watch a movie or

00:16:57.500 anything like what did you got play a game or anything so the white house is a movie theater

00:17:00.840 the president was busy but my wife and i wouldn't watch gladiator 2 in the white house movie theater

00:17:05.340 that's right hell yeah yeah um it wasn't as good as gladiator 1 i thought that's just one man's

00:17:11.780 opinion yeah but it's way better when you're the vice president watching yeah that's right in the

00:17:14.860 white white house movie theater oh dude it's shitty but if you're the vice president watching it

00:17:20.460 when you get to the end of the movie you're still the vice president you're still the vice president

00:17:24.780 so that's pretty dope yeah that's right um so yeah we stayed up late watching movie the food's

00:17:29.940 really good so there's like a fancy chef at the white house i mean it's the white house and he stays

00:17:33.720 up all night well i don't know how late he stays but he'll like if you order anything at any time

00:17:38.700 of night they will just bring it to you oh my god i gotta get there

00:17:42.280 thankfully at least right kid rocks bars you know i'm headed in a good direction

00:17:49.960 uh we are at kid rocks restaurant i do want to say that it's a new restaurant um well it's a it's a

00:17:55.360 reaffinement of joe muir seafood which is a famous restaurant in nashville and uh he graced us by

00:18:01.180 letting us have this room here to do this okay so i want to thank you thank you bob ritchie also known

00:18:05.840 as kid rock for letting us have this beautiful space he told me it only been open for two days

00:18:10.200 really i didn't realize that yeah yeah oh i was here at a freaking welcome party or something i was here

00:18:15.000 last night nice what that dude i was freaking in here last night you're the welcome party which

00:18:22.160 was last night because it's only been open for two days it's good um so how was the food the food i

00:18:27.000 will say this actually there's steaks that they have these little bitty mushrooms and i feel like

00:18:30.720 they were i don't want to say this out loud but they were too young to be picked or whatever

00:18:34.140 but um it was really good it's good really really good i gotta ask you okay we have you here

00:18:40.680 elon just hit the airwaves today bring it up dude oh man the fucking shit missile is in the cannon

00:18:48.900 okay wow elon musk time to drop the really big bomb right and i thought this was going to be on

00:18:57.240 iran i haven't even seen right i haven't even seen this one but he goes at real real donald trump is in

00:19:02.340 the epstein files this is the real reason they have not been made public have a nice day nice

00:19:07.000 signature from a south african djt man well so just so your audience is aware when was this what

00:19:15.100 is this going to air like tomorrow two days 45 minutes airing now dude no i'm joking it's like

00:19:19.860 i'm just saying like no presumably when this comes out people are going to know more about this than

00:19:24.660 i will because i just learned about this kind of happened on the plane when i was coming on down

00:19:28.820 here i agree let's just this is this this is new here here's here's my basic reaction to like all

00:19:34.100 this stuff is is look first of all do like absolutely not donald trump didn't do anything

00:19:40.120 wrong with jeffrey epstein like there's the guy is whatever the democrats and the media says about

00:19:47.040 him that's totally bs here here's my basic my basic read on it first of all i'm the vice president

00:19:52.460 to president trump my loyalties are always going to be with the president and i think that elon he's

00:19:58.180 an incredible entrepreneur he's actually done i think doge was really good this sort of effort to

00:20:03.000 root out waste fraud and abuse in our country is really good and and and look man i'm always

00:20:08.480 going to be loyal to the president and i hope that eventually elon kind of comes back into the fold

00:20:13.200 maybe that's not possible now because he's gone so nuclear well it's feeling i hope it is man

00:20:17.560 because it's going to hurt why though do you do you know why yeah i mean so look i think number one

00:20:24.040 so um elon's new to politics right so his businesses are being attacked non-stop they're literally

00:20:32.240 like firebombing some of his cars and by the way we're looking into a lot of this i mean some of

00:20:36.040 that stuff we're looking into is an act of terrorism yeah at the department of justice

00:20:39.260 because i think it is an act of terrorism so i think part of it is this guy got into politics

00:20:43.680 and it's has suffered a lot for it but i i mean and i and i get the frustration there and i get the

00:20:50.180 frustration that i mean look congress got the spending bill but the main purpose of the bill is not

00:20:55.320 actually spending or cutting spending though it does cut a lot of spending the main purpose of the bill

00:20:59.760 is to prevent the biggest tax increase but i understand like it's a good bill it's not a

00:21:03.560 perfect bill like the process in dc if you're a business leader you probably get frustrated with

00:21:08.120 that process because it's more you know bureaucratic it's more slow moving yeah so i think there's just

00:21:12.640 some frustrations there um but i i really man i think it's a huge mistake for him to go after the

00:21:17.800 president like that and i i think that if he and the president are in some blood feud most importantly

00:21:24.980 it's going to be bad for the country but i think it's going to be i don't think it's going to be good

00:21:28.200 for elon either but elon like did doge first of all my first thought was that it's a ruse right

00:21:33.420 because there's a lot of times there's where the media will put out a ruse or they'll use somebody

00:21:36.920 like i think the diddy thing is a ruse like it's like hey like diverse community stay busy with this

00:21:42.360 shit while we like move all these chess pieces right sometimes that's what i feel like it is

00:21:46.560 and maybe i'm like a pervert or whatever sorry or weird guy sorry but this has nothing to do with

00:21:53.380 that huh but i'm not a pervert maybe you're a weird guy you're not a pervert i think you're a good dude

00:21:56.540 well i appreciate that dude um but anyway what i was saying was uh but that diddy thing man

00:22:01.780 is it true they found like sorry no go play into this but i read somewhere that they found like

00:22:08.200 bottles and bottles and bottles maybe you told me this i don't know somebody told bottles and

00:22:14.240 bottles of like baby oil but that had like drugs drugs in it bring that up was they doping up is

00:22:19.340 that real or is that just something i heard on the internet because sometimes you hear stuff on

00:22:22.180 the internet it's not true well here's what most of it is most of the stuff you hear on the internet

00:22:26.700 what defense would you have like babies that are addicted to dirty oil yeah i mean you don't normally

00:22:31.900 have ghb and baby oil like i'm not a doctor but i don't think that's a normal ingredient in ghb anyway

00:22:37.820 sorry i don't know dude there's some babies these days that fucking want to get to the club homie

00:22:44.420 no um but no but so do you think it was so obviously it was the bill this is where it's

00:22:51.880 happened the something about the bill made him upset yeah so yeah that's right that's right i mean

00:22:57.300 again i i think he looked at the bill he didn't like it and i think it's a good bill but again there

00:23:03.760 are things you can criticize about it like the president would be very open and say this is not

00:23:07.960 a perfect bill yeah but donald trump doesn't get to write the bills right congress has to write the

00:23:12.140 bills and you got to work with them to try to get something that is as good as possible okay so

00:23:15.940 here's what i'll say about the bill number one prevents the biggest tax increase in american

00:23:19.820 history it prevents it prevents it because taxes are going to go up on everybody in a really big way

00:23:24.360 at the end of 2025 because the old tax law expires at the end of 2025 so you're going to hit a big tax

00:23:30.660 increase we're trying to prevent that from happening we're also trying to do stuff okay so you got a lot

00:23:34.860 of people working long overtime hours in this economy um you know we inherited bad inflation from joe

00:23:40.780 biden so no tax on overtime no tax on tips right we're in we're in bob richie we're in kid rock's

00:23:46.480 great restaurant his servers would not have to pay taxes on the hard-earned tips that they get

00:23:50.640 when they're when they're busting their ass doing a good job so when working for kid rock man that's

00:23:55.160 hard that's hard work right so i think that it's it's a good bill and it does a lot of good for the

00:24:00.400 american people but like look elon's entitled to his opinion i'm not saying he has to agree with the bill

00:24:04.900 or agree with everything that i'm saying i just think it's a huge mistake for the world's wealthiest

00:24:11.200 man i think one of the most transformational entrepreneurs ever that's elon to be at at at

00:24:16.260 this war with the world's most powerful man who i think is doing more to save the country than

00:24:22.200 anybody i'm 40 years old anybody in my lifetime think about it it's a guy who not even a year ago

00:24:29.000 nearly took a bullet in the process of campaigning went back on the horse the next day and if you

00:24:35.540 look obviously i'm biased but you look at what we've done on the border you look at what we've

00:24:39.180 done with trade fighting back against a generation of theft of the american dream which is what the

00:24:44.880 president's trade policies are starting to do i just think you got to have some respect for him

00:24:50.020 and say look yeah we don't have to agree on every issue i'm talking about if you're elon musk you

00:24:53.420 don't have to agree with us on every issue but is this war actually in the interest of the country

00:24:58.080 i don't think so so hopefully elon figured his figures it out comes back into the fold i know

00:25:03.840 the president you know for for a couple days i'll tell you just you know i don't want to reveal too

00:25:08.080 many confidences but he was getting a little frustrated feeling like some of the criticisms

00:25:12.420 were unfair coming from elon but i think has been very restrained because the president doesn't think

00:25:18.880 that he needs to be in a blood feud with elon musk and i actually think if elon chilled out a little

00:25:24.560 bit everything would be fine it would help well elon also tweeted that uh he thought that in the

00:25:28.780 second half of this year that there would be a uh the trump tariffs will cause a recession in the

00:25:35.580 second half of this year uh now who knows what what could cause a recession in the second half this

00:25:40.640 year it could be a build-up of our entire just history of being alive um but he's saying this so i it

00:25:47.620 seems like and this is just me guessing and i don't know mr musk i never met mr musk

00:25:52.560 one time he fed my buddy spaghetti at a party though dude that my buddy uh they were people

00:25:58.500 were raging and shit and your buddy couldn't feed himself spaghetti well my buddy said he offered

00:26:03.000 my buddy some spaghetti and my buddy said yeah i'd like to have some and then it's but only if you

00:26:07.160 feed it to me but instead of getting him a plate of spaghetti he made him some and put it in his

00:26:12.080 mouth dude does your buddy know uh ferderick douglas my buddy i'll say this my buddy actually is a

00:26:18.400 friend of fdr i don't know sorry of uh uh shit i don't know god dude i'll fucking ruin this shit

00:26:27.040 dude fuck dude civics man chill out um no uh but he said that he thinks he did but do you think that

00:26:35.280 he just thinks that there's too many that it's not a fair bill for the people do you think elon

00:26:39.340 musk is for the people i mean i think that he's making a mistake and going after the president i think

00:26:45.040 his heart is in the good place in the right place man i do like i i think he got into this for the

00:26:49.020 right reasons i think he's frustrated i think he's an emotional guy honestly i'm a very emotional guy

00:26:53.520 yeah like it's it's the president is is it's interesting because if you read the media reports

00:26:59.660 you wouldn't necessarily see this he's not like quick to temper like he's not one of these guys who

00:27:05.520 flies off the handle that's a little bit more what i'm like honestly oh he's smooth he's smooth man

00:27:10.560 he's stoic and i think there's fucking double oh seven dude that motherfucker is i don't i don't

00:27:15.240 know if that's good but yeah i get what you're saying but it's it's like it is where it is but

00:27:20.560 but i i i think i so yeah i think elon means the best but i think he's making a mistake yeah got it

00:27:26.680 um did any was doge helpful it was yeah it was and i mean look doge continues within the white house

00:27:35.440 and within the executive of of the country i mean look you there's a lot of ways in which we are

00:27:41.400 wasting the american people's money yeah sometimes spending it on crazy stuff sometimes spending it on

00:27:46.380 like actually counterproductive stuff i think doge has saved already at least 170 maybe 200 billion

00:27:51.780 dollars hopefully it's going to save more but yeah i think it was very that's very much money

00:27:57.500 how could you a ton of money how do they not how would you not even notice that if that much

00:28:02.720 come on uh there's so much i could tell you about this okay so one of the crazy things we all figured

00:28:06.960 out like first week or so we're in the white house okay is there was a payment that should be stopped

00:28:13.740 because the president signed an executive order to stop a payment and this is like day one of the

00:28:18.880 white house we're like okay how do we stop this payment because somebody's trying to make this

00:28:22.720 payment and nobody knew where like the computer was that actually wired the money from the u.s

00:28:28.180 taxpayer to this entity god dude the the amount of waste and the amount of just grift in the federal

00:28:34.720 government was off the charts it's still it's it's getting better but there's still a lot more i think

00:28:40.020 we can find who was getting it i don't know what not i don't know one person that was getting

00:28:44.460 something extra i don't think well unless everybody was slurping yeah i mean a lot of people

00:28:48.500 were slurping man you you look at uh you look at what so for example there are all these

00:28:54.500 humanitarian programs that we have where we send money for people for medicine for food oh yeah

00:28:58.640 okay but like you think i think like what i thought before i got in the government what most americans

00:29:04.600 think is okay so we send a hundred thousand dollars to this group to buy food for like poor kids in

00:29:12.020 africa okay and what actually happens is it's not a hundred thousand dollars that go to the food for

00:29:17.120 the poor kids in africa that the ngo the non-government organization that gets that money contracts it out to

00:29:24.440 somebody else right and they subcontracted out something there's like three or four middlemen

00:29:28.820 and what you know marco rubio who's a secretary of state he's a very good friend what he told me is

00:29:33.800 that his best estimate after he had his team look at it is that 88 cents of every dollar was actually

00:29:39.580 being collected by middlemen no so every dollar we were spending humanitarian assistance 12 cents was

00:29:45.400 actually making it to people who needed it that's crazy so there's a lot of waste man a lot of crazy

00:29:49.280 stuff so elon was putting in a lot was elon doing it for free all that time he was doing it for free

00:29:55.200 yeah for free he was doing it for free i mean he doesn't need money right that's the one thing

00:29:59.040 does not right does not need so that was he i wonder if he was expecting anything from trump and

00:30:03.480 they just couldn't figure it out i don't know i'm just curious about it you know i i'm kind of like

00:30:06.380 you start to see how all this stuff kind of works you know and just like it's like yeah i like i i hear

00:30:10.800 i i really do think he's disappointed about the bill he's you know he disagrees with some of the

00:30:15.560 things that were in there he's an emotional guy look it happens everybody i've i've flown off the

00:30:20.960 handle way worse than elon musk did in the last 24 hours oh yeah but you know my hope is comes back

00:30:28.000 says look made some mistakes didn't mean to say everything let's smooth it out and let's all be

00:30:33.420 friends because again like i care about the country and i think the country's better off if the under

00:30:39.300 the president's leadership elon's helping us out as opposed to fighting the administration i don't want

00:30:44.360 him to fight the administration i know the president doesn't want that but here we are

00:30:47.560 yeah he just tweeted a little bit ago that he felt like 80 of the um what was that about a third party

00:30:55.400 or something he's tweeted like 300 times oh sorry never mind okay that's just just a lot of tweets

00:31:02.160 today just a regular day for elon so yeah he's obviously i mean he's definitely uh he gets a bit rogue

00:31:07.860 um uh why don't we have oh wait this is interesting pull it up let's see this post is from an account

00:31:14.840 you muted i'm curious who who did you mute

00:31:17.440 who is that guy is that yours it's one of your producers uh me out meal meal meal is shong

00:31:26.980 oh it's a trump should be impeached and jade event should replace him dude that's one vote

00:31:32.360 oh my god see this is what i'm talking about this stuff is what are you talking about campaigning this

00:31:38.180 stuff this stuff is just not helpful again yeah oh there's definitely here's look look

00:31:43.500 my first loyalties to my family obviously to the constitution but politics is a place where people

00:31:51.460 stab each other in the back yeah and you can't get anything done unless you're all on the same team

00:31:57.000 and you're actually committed to getting stuff done together i just think like the idea that

00:32:02.340 the president's the president should be impeached i'm sorry it's insane it's totally insane the

00:32:09.120 president is doing a good job and you can look you're free to disagree with him right everybody's

00:32:14.320 a first amendment right are you free to disagree with trump ever do you feel like you can of course

00:32:18.920 of course i mean the the way that i put it is if i have a disagreement with the president

00:32:23.080 then it is my job obviously to provide the president honest counsel like he doesn't need

00:32:29.280 me to be a doormat he needs me to actually say what i think about an issue but when the president

00:32:33.180 makes a decision man he's the general and when the general makes a decision everybody's go got to go

00:32:38.720 and execute that order and that's kind of how i think about my job right really is to be a good ally

00:32:43.500 and a good friend provide honest counsel to the president but also when a decision's made you go out

00:32:48.220 and get it done does he listen to many people or does he listen to just one or two

00:32:51.960 he listens to a ton of people it's one of the more interesting things about his his leadership

00:32:55.920 style is if he's got a big decision to make he talks to everybody got it and i think it's why

00:33:01.020 he's like in touch with normal people is because he doesn't just talk to like congressmen or people

00:33:06.700 a lot of money he tries to talk to everybody like i've seen him ask the gardener at mar-a-lago what he

00:33:12.120 thinks about a particular issue i've seen him ask you know the people who work in the kitchen at the

00:33:15.780 white house what they think about an issue he's constantly trying to understand what other people

00:33:21.140 are thinking oh i saw him ask a scottish terrier what kind of cakes they like you know so yeah

00:33:26.660 i agree with you he's definitely always absorbing kind of information he is yeah um nobody needs help

00:33:33.740 spending money sometimes it feels like the whole world is trying to spend your money your whole social

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00:35:09.240 man you know it's pretty obvious that the mainstream media uh is a big machine right they kind of contour

00:35:15.500 they team up they have a strategy so we're never really seeing the whole picture when it comes to

00:35:21.300 news that's why i love ground news it lets you see how different news outlets cover the same story

00:35:28.340 left right and center yeah i was on ground news this morning and it shows on the if you look at the

00:35:34.160 left regarding the musk trump feud it says musk hits back with epstein theories trump hits back

00:35:40.280 with threats elon has gone crazy and then we go to a more centrist news feed and it says trump musk

00:35:48.220 feud explodes with threats of cutting contracts backing impeachment and here we are with a right

00:35:54.340 leaning from the daily wire white house responds to elon musk epstein claims an unfortunate episode

00:36:01.360 from elon and i think you should go check this out yourself because um i don't think we've ever

00:36:05.860 seen anything like it i think it's actually the only of its kind and i think it's what we've all been

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00:36:30.100 wow one more time ground news.com slash t-h-e-o we we you talked about the bill the big beautiful bill

00:36:40.040 you know which is like kind of the most it's the most trumpian name you could ever have it is uh

00:36:44.520 the big beautiful bill um and uh why do why are why are these bills this whole mess of shit why is

00:36:52.960 it a gumball why isn't it just one fine soup each time and you vote on each certain thing i know that's

00:36:57.820 definitely gonna be a novice question but no man it's a fair question um i think there are a couple

00:37:02.740 excuse me it depends on the kind of the celsius is uh it's got a lot of caffeine in it man

00:37:08.680 what are you talking about yeah that's what fdr was on that's why you

00:37:14.400 left his wife that thing will get that thing will definitely

00:37:18.500 that thing will remodel fdr love celsius as everybody knows his favorite beverage was

00:37:24.560 was uh what is this here sparkling orange celsius

00:37:28.680 and that is the most fdr flavor too to be honest oh man okay sorry what did you ask me okay the big

00:37:39.180 big bill i thought we were supposed to be reading the bible all right the bills okay but the bill

00:37:47.600 why is it okay because it's always you always hear every every congressman or senator not everyone but

00:37:51.740 sometimes you're like i just got it i don't know what i couldn't read a thousand pages last night you

00:37:56.660 know so there are different kinds of bills okay and i think so there are things called omnibuses and

00:38:02.460 omnibuses are like a million different things shoved into one bill and oftentimes you don't

00:38:09.220 have time to read them the house the house of representatives actually adopted a rule to where

00:38:13.400 they have to get i think at least four days to actually read it to to change this because people

00:38:17.580 weren't getting time to to read the stuff before it got voted on this particular bill the way to think

00:38:22.240 about it is basically if you looked look at a campaign speech i gave back in september of 2024

00:38:28.120 and i said we're gonna cut taxes on tips we're gonna have no taxes on overtime we're gonna cut

00:38:32.680 taxes on social security you know we're gonna secure the border we're gonna build more border

00:38:37.000 wall we're gonna hire more border patrol agents like all that stuff all of those promises are in

00:38:41.820 this bill so like the way this particular piece of legislation was conceptualized is rather than then

00:38:47.820 take up floor time on a bunch of random different stuff why don't we just do everything or at least

00:38:52.500 most of the things that we campaigned on that can be done through legislation and put it into this bill

00:38:57.840 now that's not saying that there aren't sometimes massive bills that are ridiculous and don't make

00:39:02.240 a ton of sense there are but i think this bill like you know there's a there's a political answer

00:39:08.560 to your question too okay so let's just say i'm not going to name names i don't embarrass anybody but

00:39:13.540 let's say you've got some republican congressmen who really love no taxes on tips but they're a little

00:39:20.000 squishy on the border stuff they don't agree with what we're doing on the border okay let's say you got

00:39:23.820 somebody who really loves what we're doing on the border but they don't necessarily like you know

00:39:28.560 they don't want to cut taxes for one reason or another right if if if you take enough of this

00:39:33.140 stuff of our promises again and put it together you say look even if you disagree with parts of it

00:39:38.740 this is what we campaigned on writ large and so we got to vote on this thing and make it happen

00:39:43.940 sorry there's a final answer to this question which is is stupid and parliamentary but it matters it's

00:39:48.720 actually the most important answer is okay any bill that you do takes you got to put it on the

00:39:54.100 floor and you got to give people enough time to read it and you got to amend it and then you got

00:39:57.760 to do a committee process and there's like a constant stream of things there's a big process for it and so

00:40:03.220 if you went through that process for each individual item as a put on a separate bill cost

00:40:09.680 it would take over a year to do all these bills but we got to like we got to prevent taxes from going up

00:40:14.800 we don't have that much time to do it we got to secure the border we don't have that much time to

00:40:18.460 do it we've got to do the the no tax on social security like if if we did that 18 months from

00:40:25.640 now in a smaller bill then we would not be keeping our promises to the american people i see is there a

00:40:31.960 way um that they can just prioritize those i wonder it just feels like it would make it would be so much

00:40:38.380 easier to digest as a regular person yeah if you weren't thinking like well heck my guy's got to stay up

00:40:44.080 all night for 600 nights to get all this information in you know and to get it in accurately and then

00:40:49.120 make fair choices on yeah i mean i think the answer to your question is is you could do that but congress

00:40:53.440 would have to change its procedure and could could congress do that if they voted to do it they could

00:40:57.260 they could but they would need to change their procedures and you know the president's attitude

00:41:02.280 is we're like we're not gonna we're gonna tell you how to run congress right we're working within

00:41:06.880 the constraints that we have understood we're just trying to get as much done and look i mean people

00:41:11.000 are frustrated with congress i get it people are frustrated with certain things that congress does

00:41:15.100 i agree with a lot of those criticisms um i mean we do spend way too much money in this country like

00:41:20.280 it is a reality that we spend too much money but i i don't think those criticisms apply to this

00:41:27.120 particular legislation like one thing i'd ask everybody say is okay so so big ugly spending bill

00:41:32.780 some people are calling it what is the spending that is done here the biggest single budgetary item

00:41:38.240 theo and this bill is the money to secure the border like that's not ugly spending that's like

00:41:43.460 the best kind of spending well that's a great kind of spending i think well um no i agree with that

00:41:48.660 look we've had uh two border officials on over the past four years and we've learned about um

00:41:54.420 about all the just the infrastructure issues that they face uh we've learned about the fact that

00:41:59.400 the executive branch doesn't process any of the um like they'll apprehend the guys but then

00:42:04.880 they're not processed i think it's the executive branch yes because we don't have the money to do

00:42:08.280 it like that that's okay here's they were saying for years guys would come in and they'd have to

00:42:12.060 catch them every other week because they would and nobody would prosecute them so it was just

00:42:15.960 then it made them feel like they didn't have any value i know that we're signing like 5 000 new

00:42:19.540 people to work at the border so i know that we're giving a lot of new jobs that's what we're trying

00:42:23.020 to do right is create enough resources so you can actually do all the border enforcement that we

00:42:27.660 promised and like the the the part that the president got immediate action on if you think about

00:42:32.860 this we came in the president empowered border patrol to stop letting people come across the

00:42:37.720 border illegally that stopped pretty much immediately you got like a 96 drop in border

00:42:42.720 crossings immediately yeah the thing is though is you've got 21 million people in here illegally

00:42:48.440 you got to send them home you got to process them you got to actually sometimes some of these people

00:42:52.800 you know are entitled to some kind of trial for one reason or another so you've got to like do that

00:42:58.920 that stuff all costs money and that's where we don't have money to do it right now so that's why

00:43:03.680 this bill is necessary did uh who was that they just said that um did congress have enough time to

00:43:10.140 read this bill thomas rep thomas massey said the house has a 72-hour rule which requires the bill

00:43:16.140 to be posted 72 hours before passage what does that even mean yeah that's that's i'd never heard that

00:43:21.820 before and look i mean thomas massey and i get along um but my my understanding is that the bill text

00:43:29.680 was people have had literally weeks to pass it or to read it and the reason okay here's the criticism

00:43:36.700 i'd give of what thomas massey's saying right here is what's going to happen is the senate has to vote on

00:43:42.480 this bill and then it has to go back to the house and it may change like one percent like the senate may

00:43:48.820 change a sentence or a paragraph here or there but it's going to fundamentally be the same bill

00:43:53.200 so the idea that people haven't had an opportunity to actually read it is ridiculous they're in fact

00:43:57.540 going to have to vote on it again before it even becomes law so they'll have more time they'll have

00:44:01.180 more time got it like by necessity by law they have to understood um part of the bill i know that

00:44:06.820 people are that's getting a lot of attention right is um and i do want to say like i recognize

00:44:11.800 that like when you get into a place you can't just get what you want right there's a lot of people

00:44:16.620 in that place and everybody wants certain things there's a give and take that's why i'd say it's

00:44:20.000 good not perfect there are criticisms to make of it yeah there's a give and take dude you know

00:44:24.360 that's right you can yeah it's like getting in-laws or whatever that's right any good marriage has

00:44:30.180 give or take any good relationship has give or take yeah right yeah oh yeah you gotta compromise a

00:44:35.500 little bit you gotta accept some things you might not love uh that's just that's the nature of the beast

00:44:39.840 um part of the bill that people are talking about is there's um like the ai stuff right

00:44:46.000 like the government like um there's a ban uh is that we're going to spend a lot of money with ai

00:44:51.880 like in order to advance like bring our government at technologies up to code really i know what you're

00:44:57.620 talking about and then also it says in there that there's a ban that at state levels they couldn't

00:45:02.880 prosecute uh some of these ai companies right so yeah that sounds really sketchy like i know what you're

00:45:09.640 talking about yeah and this is in usa today i'll just read it the ban is tucked into a section of

00:45:13.700 the bill that would allocate 500 million over the next 10 years to modernize government systems with

00:45:18.600 the help of ai and automation technologies the ban would not only prevent new state-led regulations of

00:45:24.300 ai but would also block dozens of states from enforcing pre-existing ai regulations and oversight

00:45:29.500 structures it feels scary yeah so let me let me say a couple things about this so i actually was

00:45:36.180 talking to a couple of senators um on the way down here about this because they really hate this

00:45:42.360 provision and actually both that we brought them on because it's it's bill hagerty and marsha

00:45:48.440 blackburn great people they represent the state of tennessee so they they don't like this provision

00:45:52.920 and they they brought up a really interesting point it's because so tennessee obviously has a lot

00:45:57.060 of musicians right and tennessee wants to protect those musicians from having basically ai steal

00:46:04.360 the the production of their artists right because one of the big problems with ai right is you're going

00:46:08.800 to be able to take somebody's voice and then like you know taylor swift's voice or you know anybody

00:46:14.720 else's voice um and and basically say oh okay well based on this one song that you know robert plant did

00:46:24.960 35 years ago we're going to like make a whole new led zeppelin song using artificial intelligence

00:46:29.720 right and they want to protect people from that kind of thing happening so that's a totally reasonable

00:46:35.220 point to me the reason that provision is in there is because you think about like think about how like

00:46:41.020 woke the google searches got remember when you like search what does george washington look like

00:46:45.820 and it show you like a picture of a black dude oh yeah and and like a little japanese george

00:46:50.820 washington or something so so the idea is you use you basically have a federal regulation that prevents

00:46:57.940 a federal regulation that prevents like california from having a super progressive set of regulations

00:47:08.660 on artificial intelligence right that's the argument for it the argument against it is that if the feds

00:47:14.500 aren't protecting artists then you're not going to be able to protect artists either okay and so i

00:47:21.160 honestly i don't think the provision to be honest with you i don't think that's going to make it in

00:47:24.400 the final bill but i usually have a pretty strong view on most things i could kind of go both ways on

00:47:29.640 this because i don't want california's progressive regulations to control artificial intelligence yeah i

00:47:34.560 also agree with martian bill that you want to protect you know country artists in nashville from

00:47:40.640 having their crap stolen by ai like i get that yeah yeah it's interesting i mean that kind of stuff

00:47:45.440 it's like because they made a bunch of little babies of all the like a lot of podcasters and

00:47:49.320 now they're doing it with everybody like they got dang uh you know aaron rogers baby they got left eye

00:47:55.360 from uh that millie vanille woman or whatever they have everybody in there and so um but a lot of

00:48:01.960 millie vanille man too soon oh yeah still i'm a millie vanille truther by the way yeah man oh i think it

00:48:08.180 was really them i just think they were taken advantage of but thank you thank you dude you

00:48:13.800 know there's like seven of us left don't you oh man that was a catchy song so i was born 1984 that's

00:48:21.320 one of the first songs i remember like playing in a radio dude remember that song i'm the one who

00:48:27.640 wants to i do remember that song with you uh that was like mid 90s right i don't know it was good

00:48:33.820 though i'm trying to think of what i'm trying to think of the band i think it was kind of a one-hit

00:48:37.660 wonder big as mr big okay that's kind of one-hit wonder right yeah oh yeah we're yeah that's too

00:48:42.540 bad god they were good that was a good song remember the first song you ever heard um i'm

00:48:47.620 pretty sure the first song i ever heard was layla by eric clapton the the original one not the

00:48:52.720 acoustic one dude my buddy i used to live with my buddy's dad right because he was getting i had

00:48:57.340 like erectile dysfunction so i was pretty young and then uh i was living with him because he was

00:49:02.320 getting like an early script on uh on pill ed peels or whatever you know wiener peels and so i

00:49:10.100 stayed over there and i i cop a little bit off of his but um anyway he used to hook up with this lady

00:49:16.460 and i was learning the guitar he made me go play layla tears in heaven oh man that's a sad you know

00:49:23.500 that's about his son diane and it was the only song i knew and they like play it again oh my god

00:49:28.720 i see this is one of those things where i hope to god you're joking because if you're living in

00:49:34.160 steed's house how old were you at the time oh probably 27 okay so you're 27 stealing ed pills

00:49:40.640 playing tears in heaven that's a bad situation you gotta get out of that situation man i'm gonna

00:49:45.700 assume that you're joking because i don't want to have nightmares about this brother about this

00:49:49.420 later on what do you mean okay okay that's the health care system we have the health care system

00:49:53.700 all right so on the way over now i'm just joking that is a true story though i hear you on the way

00:49:57.240 down here on the way down here there's like an advertisement for some like med pack it was it

00:50:04.740 was on it was a tv commercial and i don't really watch like normal tv so i don't see commercials that

00:50:09.560 often anymore but it's like med pack and it's like order this thing and it costs 45 dollars and it has

00:50:14.580 these different drugs in it and i only saw it briefly but i could have sworn that two of the

00:50:20.040 medications in this med pack were and it's it's advertised as like an emergency medicine

00:50:25.600 are ivermectin and ozempic and i'm like thinking to myself what is the situation where you need

00:50:32.420 emergency ozempic and so like the the second half of the flight down here i'm thinking to myself what

00:50:38.820 is the emergency ozempic situation and then i thought like you know if you have a dommer party

00:50:43.260 situation yeah and it's like all right you know we we gotta we're gonna suppress our appetites

00:50:48.400 but i i don't know but maybe maybe it was just ivermectin maybe it was an ozempic i but that's

00:50:56.520 see stuff like that is kind of crazy to me well now they're combining it's just everything is

00:51:00.820 combined now you know they even put i think it's pizza hut and baskin robbins are together now

00:51:05.020 it's like everything i think is mixed now but that kind of makes that kind of makes sense though

00:51:09.220 it kind of does pizza and then some ice cream yeah yeah that's true you're right so what i never

00:51:14.280 understood was like what was ivermectin taco bell and kfc yeah like what is that it's one of the

00:51:21.020 other that's called indigestion that is the only way that combination it should be one or the other

00:51:27.640 one or the other you do not need if you're going to taco bell and kfc in the same stop you got

00:51:32.920 serious problems did you um let me think about something that's important jd or people are not

00:51:37.780 even going to believe that we spent time together oh my god this is fun though man this is good it's

00:51:41.720 good it is good man dude i just can't i just can't even believe that that's your life is it

00:51:46.940 what you thought it would be is it different once you got in there are things that different

00:51:50.160 it's about what i thought it would be i mean i at this point right i i i know the president pretty

00:51:55.060 well and you know i knew that he would i knew he had a lot of trust in me and again that the role

00:52:01.200 of the vice president is very derivative of what the president is doing so if the president has

00:52:05.540 trust in you if he gives you a task and just lets you go and do it that's that's kind of what

00:52:09.580 your that's kind of what your job is and uh it's been a lot of fun like i've traveled all over the

00:52:14.200 world i think we've done a lot of good work for the american people which of course is the most

00:52:17.980 important most important part and there are little things that i you know will take some time getting

00:52:22.640 used to so like we got three little kids our son just turned eight yesterday actually uh and then

00:52:28.360 we have a five-year-old son the three-year-old baby girl and our eight-year-old son is he's a little

00:52:34.320 bit of an introvert i think and so he doesn't love the attention but then our like five-year-old

00:52:38.840 son is is a little bit more like me so he'll like roll off the airplane wave in saying hello

00:52:43.740 to everybody and um having secret service around is is kind of a crazy experience like they're all

00:52:49.300 good dudes and i love them but it's also kind of unusual to like just walk outside your house

00:52:53.820 and there's always somebody you know walking with you that's kind of weird oh definitely i think i

00:52:58.480 mean we we went back to go chat for you know like five minutes just before this thing started and

00:53:02.640 you know i was like don't worry guys theo doesn't have a gun yeah i hope you don't know they checked

00:53:07.720 so we're in deep shit man they checked me somebody kissed me on the way and i was like that's part of

00:53:12.480 it one of the secret service no i'm joking i was like what's your secret buddy huh you know oh that's

00:53:18.380 millie vanilli right there is babies right there using that oh my god wait they had those are grammys

00:53:24.380 right i didn't know oh they took their grammys away well didn't one of them took their grammys away

00:53:31.100 didn't one of them commit suicide it's a kind of a sad story actually yeah and one of them died a

00:53:36.180 couple years ago i met one of them one night i think uh maybe i didn't i was out late one night

00:53:40.280 i'll say that um i'm sorry that's crazy what are we talking about um let's talk about what could

00:53:46.540 have been millie vanilli could have been my uncle who knows who am i to say i don't know i did i'll

00:53:53.180 just say i met one of uh freddy's buddies one of frederick's buddies out there i'll say this man

00:53:58.740 right now sir i will say it um so people have to like we all need like help whenever we're like

00:54:05.020 and when you're politicianing right like you need help you need support you have sponsors and stuff

00:54:09.220 right correct there's a lot of speculation and talk like one of your primary sponsors was is a guy

00:54:14.560 peter teal right and he's in the tech world yeah and i never met him you know sure um but you know

00:54:21.160 there's a like a lot of these tech kind of lords like they you know technology has grown so much

00:54:26.520 in the past 20 years that it it controls a lot of our environment in our life right it does

00:54:31.900 what do you owe somebody if you do like if you get into office if somebody like donates a lot of money

00:54:39.000 to your campaign like how does that relationship work after that i think the attitude is you don't

00:54:43.300 owe them anything and i think if the if you take the attitude of you owe somebody something then

00:54:47.440 you're fundamentally not going to do the job that you you were meant to do i mean this is always this

00:54:52.540 is tough right because so so take my my senate race first time i ever ran for office was 22

00:54:58.460 2022 i i ran for the ohio senate race i won you did that race yeah fuck yeah thank you that's good

00:55:05.760 yeah if i hadn't won i wouldn't be sitting here oh okay yeah yeah no idea i became the vice president

00:55:12.800 right so i so i basically won i've run two campaigns in my life the first one the senate campaign

00:55:18.000 cost 45 million dollars the second one presidential campaign i think that we spent like 1.2 billion

00:55:23.740 dollars okay so it costs a lot of money well the president obviously is the leader of the campaign

00:55:28.940 but the total campaign got it so it costs a lot of money to run for office and you got to go and

00:55:35.440 raise money yeah but i think that if your attitude is i owe something these people gave me money then

00:55:41.100 you're going to end up being corrupted and you've got to kind of take the attitude of

00:55:45.580 they're supporting me because they agree with me and obviously like you have conversations with

00:55:50.740 like you mentioned peter teal i see a lot of crazy stuff on the internet about peter teal like you

00:55:56.080 know he's always been a friend of mine he's always been one of the smartest people i've ever met like

00:56:00.140 just a very thoughtful dude but he's literally never asked me once for anything um so he just

00:56:06.140 believed in you he believed in me he agreed with me on a lot of issues i mean he definitely is like

00:56:11.560 said hey i don't agree with you on this but he's never said i don't agree with you on this

00:56:14.760 therefore you should vote differently or act differently but it's like to be honest with

00:56:19.460 you it's one of the risks of our system now if you think about it right because if you are a super

00:56:25.480 ambitious dude or girl and you really want to run for office like you got to be able to separate

00:56:32.160 yourself from that donor pressure and think about it like if you're going to a fundraiser okay everybody's

00:56:37.760 going to go to fundraisers in politics well that's like an hour and a half you're not spending talking

00:56:41.720 to the people you represent right so there is one of the problems in our system is the people spend

00:56:48.100 so much time raising money i think sometimes not all cases but sometimes it can have a corrupting

00:56:53.960 influence on the process now i was talking to a buddy of mine actually about this because his

00:56:58.320 argument is yeah he's like a political consultant he's a political hack but a good dude he said he said

00:57:03.580 he said our system is better though because in some places they have publicly financed campaigns

00:57:09.300 and he's like the problem with places where they have public publicly financed campaigns is that all

00:57:14.760 all of the control in the political system is with the media because like if you if you raise money most

00:57:21.760 of what you're spending your money on is tv radio advertisements it's reaching voters so if you can't

00:57:26.420 reach voters with tv advertisements and you got to go on the like the corporate media to get your

00:57:31.020 message out there that's even worse right so i kind of see both sides of it i just think as

00:57:35.340 a practical matter what i try to do is remember that you know it's it's an honor to serve but it's

00:57:41.580 also a sacrifice to serve and if people are going to write me a check great but i don't owe them

00:57:45.800 anything that's that's the attitude i try to have yeah yeah well it's just it's interesting because i

00:57:50.980 mean we all have people that help us do certain things or supportive and then you get in spots where

00:57:55.040 you're like you know i like i used to live with a family when i was growing up and there's always

00:57:58.340 been this thing i'm like what do i owe them you know not that they've ever said i owed them

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01:00:57.760 podcast well recently they have like there's a lot of like trump picked out um that the there's the

01:01:09.880 palantir company right yeah and that's about a surveillance thing so this thing is fucked this

01:01:14.720 sounds crazy dude like this sounds like we're only gonna be human for like two more years right

01:01:19.760 so they and this is the palantir company where they're gonna build security databases that have

01:01:25.740 all of our information in them right that's what they're saying that's what they're saying yeah and

01:01:29.420 it's gonna have like everything it'll like look at you and know like if you're good at tennis or if

01:01:33.840 you've ever you know if you have like if you have sixty dollars in your pocket or if you're you know it

01:01:39.440 can tell if your kids are you know if your kids can have a limp or whatever he'll be in the christmas

01:01:43.320 play yeah you know what i'm saying it can tell all of that and then and that feels real scary man like

01:01:50.100 i get it to a regular street that feels like we're gonna give our our society like like we're gonna

01:01:57.860 become these like they're gonna have every know everything about us it makes you feel like you

01:02:02.680 won't be a person anymore i hear you does that make sense to you it definitely makes sense to me i

01:02:07.020 mean let me try to explain so to be clear i'm not an expert on this particular deal i actually just

01:02:12.840 read about it earlier today or maybe yesterday but the president did an executive order i don't know a

01:02:18.560 couple months ago and the basic idea is you've got all this different information but it's not

01:02:24.760 accessible in one place so like let me example where this might be useful okay let's say you

01:02:30.300 catch an illegal immigrant okay and that person's using a social security number but the department

01:02:36.400 of homeland security that arrests the person can't actually figure out what social security number

01:02:41.180 that illegal immigrant is what name it's attached to okay or you know let's say you're like

01:02:47.060 investigating some terrorist and the fbi arrest the person but you know their information about like

01:02:53.580 where the person lived a couple years ago that you'd like to have so you'd maybe like to go you

01:02:57.740 know talk to their friends or associates or whatever yeah my understanding is that it does sound

01:03:03.400 odd but that what they're trying to do is take all the information that the department of homeland

01:03:08.340 security has that the fbi has and just make it so that it's actually not in some hyper inefficient

01:03:14.080 system it's all sort of accessible and here's the thing modern technology is just crazy and weird

01:03:21.640 and it affects our privacy and i i think we don't have to think that's a good thing it is like a

01:03:27.820 reality of the world that we live in right sometimes i get a little romantic about things well i mean look

01:03:32.920 and i think it's going to go back in time i mean look everybody i kind of agree with you i think people

01:03:37.420 are sort of going to rebel against technology a little bit in some ways they already are but

01:03:41.660 hey look dude if i if i this has happened to me so many times where i'm talking to my wife like oh

01:03:47.880 what are we gonna make for dinner for the kids tonight oh let's just like do doordash or grubhub

01:03:51.500 and then you go on like x or you go on you know facebook or instagram and there's like an

01:03:56.740 advertisement for a doordash coupon and it's like well i was just talking about this 10 minutes ago

01:04:01.120 so we know that big technology spies on us and harvests our data i honestly worry more about that

01:04:08.520 than about like connecting the dhs system to the fbi system so that's all that this palantir deal is

01:04:14.960 part like a lot of that it's just it's just connecting information so i'm hardly an expert

01:04:19.800 but that is my understanding is that it's just taking okay dhs has information fbi has information

01:04:24.680 secretary of the treasury has information and making it possible for that information to be searched

01:04:30.860 yeah by whoever is looking for it oh that's my understanding yeah and i and i but again like

01:04:36.520 i hear that same that story and my reaction is the same which is oh i don't like the government

01:04:41.860 having my information the reality is the government already has my information and more importantly

01:04:46.320 some of these private technology companies have way more information on me than the government does

01:04:51.940 oh yeah i mean anywhere you shop has unbelievable information on you i mean let me tell you like

01:04:56.660 yeah dude blockbuster two days ago blockbuster was like happy birthday they were wrong so i i gotta

01:05:02.000 i gotta it's like you're out of business there's a there's a yeah when was the last time you were

01:05:08.820 at a blockbuster but some guys somewhere probably in another country nepal you and fdr somewhere you

01:05:17.580 and fdr took your celsius and went down to blockbuster to get some get some vhs rentals

01:05:22.660 okay a little bit of boogie little boogie nights

01:05:26.740 that's that was fdr's favorite movie so that makes sense um so all right what were we talking

01:05:35.760 about technology okay so i was okay i i was getting a brief so because that's what people

01:05:42.280 when i first became but no no they they are and i get it and look like all i'll tell you is we try

01:05:46.760 to be as oh yeah i did go to the last blockbuster i forgot about that how old was that is that 14 years

01:05:52.060 ago that no that's freaking two years ago i didn't realize blockbuster out there got stuck in the snow

01:05:57.340 out there yeah so so um i got a brief from my national security guy i'm gonna make sure i can

01:06:05.180 it's not classified information okay no it's not classified information okay basically long story

01:06:08.840 short one of the guys who works the national security team of the trump administration

01:06:13.340 um gave me this brief about how okay when you're using an ipad and let's say you know you're reading

01:06:22.980 a story from some random newspaper and you hover on a particular paragraph like your ipad is collecting

01:06:31.980 that information on god like it's actually trying to track what you're doing like that is the stuff

01:06:37.660 that really freaks me out well how do we stop that i think it freaks everybody i think it just makes

01:06:41.460 people sick it's like you don't even feel like you exist for any purpose anymore other than to be

01:06:46.400 advertised to or to be um i don't even know anything yeah well you think about it like our

01:06:52.480 think about a hundred years ago 50 years ago the most brilliant scientists in the world they're trying

01:06:58.260 to figure out nuclear energy they're trying to figure out how to cure cancer now way too many of them

01:07:04.720 are figuring out like how do i get a person to linger on a digital advertisement for a little bit

01:07:09.280 longer so that we can increase the price of the ad that we sell them by three pennies yeah like

01:07:13.640 there's something i think very that warps our entire economy about the digital advertisement world

01:07:19.800 because too many smart people are focused on getting us addicted to these applications

01:07:25.020 and i mean what do we do about it i mean one thing is is from a policy perspective we've already

01:07:31.960 looked into a lot of things we can do on data privacy and protection so we're trying to make it

01:07:36.080 harder for these firms to collect information on you well it feels like with this with palantir it's

01:07:41.320 like they're going to collect all the information though so that feels like yeah i yeah i mean look

01:07:45.960 my understanding again so this is full disclosure i think it's important i think it's important i

01:07:51.720 think it's important to be open so so palantir you asked about peter teal palantir is actually

01:07:55.460 one of the companies that he invested in right so you know he doesn't run my understanding is he

01:08:00.780 doesn't run it but i don't believe that palantir is collecting any information i believe it's purely

01:08:07.320 building a database that's sort of combining the information is that i might have some my team that

01:08:11.960 you guys get is that right is that accurate okay cool no i'm glad yeah because yeah we're just trying

01:08:17.100 to figure it out and i think i mean right now i think palantir has like you know there's a lot of

01:08:22.060 conflict right now in gaza you know everybody knows about that of course and palantir is like um

01:08:27.340 been accused of being like complicit in a lot of the violence over there um and so i think that's

01:08:32.880 where it gets really scary for like regular person on the street i'm like well this is the company

01:08:37.640 um you know because you see videos of like horrific stuff online very sad stuff and and you're like well

01:08:44.280 if this is the company we're hiring how do i know that i might not be walking down the street and

01:08:49.440 just a sniper bullet could hit me from them you know so that that is to be really honest with you

01:08:54.960 yeah yeah no i hear what you're saying and i i think the answer to that question is

01:08:58.360 the only real protection that we have against that is that we've got to you know elect the right

01:09:06.500 people and we've got to make sure that our government doesn't do crazy stuff because i mean

01:09:11.980 look any of this information can be misused like your our government has your social security number

01:09:16.800 okay using that information the government could spy on you the government could give your information

01:09:24.420 over to an illegal alien to start a fake account in your name and that by the way happens i had a

01:09:28.280 friend of mine who had an illegal alien steal his social security number and when he went to the

01:09:32.740 irs to complain about it they wouldn't give him information on um the person on the person who was

01:09:38.700 stealing his stuff and by the way that that's that's what we're trying to do is make it so the irs can

01:09:42.440 talk to the department of homeland security um but the only real protection against this stuff

01:09:47.400 i think is to have a government that actually protects the rights of its citizens and you know

01:09:54.120 if i mean we should all be worried about our privacy being invaded by the government by i think we should

01:09:59.700 be as just as worried about private corporations as we should be the government i think you know

01:10:03.340 everybody can invade our privacy but i i don't put this away i don't think that the the solution to

01:10:09.700 that problem is to like pretend that the government doesn't already have this information it just does

01:10:16.520 right you got to make sure it doesn't misuse it and that's that's my view at least is we got to

01:10:20.560 live in reality and the government's already got this information we just need to make sure

01:10:23.580 they don't misuse it and i'm like like the gaza thing just sort of you know chat about that for a

01:10:29.940 little bit i mean i'm i'm like a human being so i look at this stuff i see these videos i see the

01:10:37.220 pictures and it's very heartbreaking and you know just since you brought it up like what we're trying

01:10:42.200 to do here is try to solve two problems here okay so on the one hand you've got innocent people

01:10:50.900 innocent palestinians and innocent israeli hostages by the way who are like caught up in this terrible

01:10:58.280 violence that's happening as we speak okay and we're trying to get as much aid and as much support

01:11:03.560 into people as humanly possible that's like one thing that's going on the other side

01:11:07.220 is israel is attacked by this terrible terrorist organization i think people sometimes forget that

01:11:11.800 right they forget like the thing that kicked this off is that we had this terrible terrorist attack

01:11:15.880 and you had a lot of innocent israeli civilians die in that terrorist attack and so i think what

01:11:21.740 we're trying to do in the trump administration with that situation is to get to a peaceful resolution

01:11:26.820 and i think the peaceful resolution looks something like this you've got to give israel confidence

01:11:32.680 that hamas is never going to attack them and kill a bunch of civilians and then you've got to get as

01:11:37.980 much aid and support into these innocent palestinians as possible because in some ways they're caught in

01:11:41.960 the middle of this thing too uh one thing that i like i don't love about the whole israel palestinian

01:11:49.060 debate is i think it kind of degrades our humanity a little bit because i've seen people on the left

01:11:55.120 mostly on the left who will say well you know they'll completely ignore that israel like all these

01:11:59.720 innocent israelis were killed in this terrorist attack and you have some people usually on the

01:12:03.540 right who will completely ignore that they're like kids who are caught up in this violence and i think

01:12:08.380 it's why the president has been you know i call him the president of peace it's why he cares about

01:12:14.120 solving this problem because the longer this goes on the more suffering the more death so we're trying

01:12:18.720 to solve it as much as we can it's not easy do you have a say in it yeah i mean well the president's

01:12:24.000 obviously the person makes the final decision all the time uh but yeah i mean we we certainly i think

01:12:29.000 i'm one of the the few people that he's talking to constantly we're constantly you know we're

01:12:33.600 talking to the israeli government we're talking to um people in the arab world we're talking to

01:12:38.500 people in palestinian territories like we're constantly engaging in diplomacy i mean one of

01:12:43.060 the crazy things dude is this guy is a very dear friend of the president's he's our special envoy

01:12:48.540 of the middle east steve whitkoff he's a jewish guy very pro-israel he's done more to try to bring

01:12:56.000 this conflict to a close than anybody and you sometimes have people who say that they're pro-israel

01:13:01.600 who attack steve for not being pro-israel enough and i think it's totally bogus like i see this guy

01:13:07.460 operate every single day he actually is like he he's a jewish guy who believes in in in the purpose

01:13:14.680 of the state of israel he also is a guy with a heart who's trying to prevent the killing yeah and i i

01:13:20.340 think there's just like when i talk about we this whole debate has caused us to lose our humanity

01:13:26.020 i think of the people who are constantly going after steve because this is a guy he's a father

01:13:30.180 he lost one of his own children because of a because of an overdose and he just he loves people

01:13:36.120 he believes in the value of human life and he's doing a really good job and he's one of the

01:13:40.800 important people in the presidency or two yeah it seems like i i've heard mr whitkoff but i never

01:13:46.880 met him but i was dude you should have him um i think so the i think the tough thing just as a

01:13:52.320 regular person right it's like we're seeing all these videos of people like picking up pieces of

01:13:55.720 their children and like horse it's it's the it's the sickest thing i think it's ever been televised

01:14:00.900 basically if you consider watching something on your phone it's a mess it feels like a massacre and

01:14:05.940 it feels like you know i've called it a genocide other people have different thoughts about it and

01:14:09.400 that's fine right and i don't need anybody to share the same thoughts or you too um but i think

01:14:14.360 where it gets scary is that we give you know we're complicit in it because we help fund like

01:14:19.380 military stuff you know and that's where it's like a regular guy you're like well i'm paying these taxes

01:14:24.740 and they're going towards this like but you can't do anything you know like you can you can you can

01:14:30.220 talk you know but it's like you can't i don't understand how it becomes like tough for people like

01:14:36.020 sometimes it feels like we look out for the interests of israel before we look out for the interests of

01:14:40.740 america so let me say a couple things so so number one like i think you're a great dude so we don't

01:14:47.460 always have to agree on everything do i think it's do i think it's a genocide no and here's here's the

01:14:52.980 reason why i don't think it's a genocide because i don't think that the israelis are purposely trying

01:14:57.560 to go in and murder every palestine i don't think that's what they're doing i think they got hit hard

01:15:01.460 and i think they're they're they're trying to like you know sort of destroy this terrorist organization

01:15:06.760 and war is hell and and that is true i also think it's true man i mean i've seen people on my side

01:15:13.280 of the political aisle i'm a republican you know that but your audience may not who like will see

01:15:17.960 these videos of these innocent palestinian kids and say oh well they had it coming to them no no no no

01:15:23.120 no like if if you have a soul your heart should break when you see a little kid who's suffering

01:15:28.580 which is why we have the policy that we have which is we're trying to stop eliminate the conflict

01:15:34.360 eliminate the source of the conflict so that we can actually bring some peace and some some

01:15:39.440 humanitarian assistance into people and uh that's that's that's my basic view and you know the

01:15:44.880 president's interesting he's he's a very he's a pro-israel guy yeah and he he also recognizes

01:15:50.600 that to bring any conflict to a close you've got to talk to everybody and so i mean we've been

01:15:56.080 attacked i've been attacked the president's been attacked uh for being too interested in diplomacy

01:16:00.540 and you ask like what can i do i think that what people should demand is that if our tax dollars

01:16:07.140 are going to something we should be actively trying to fix it okay that's that's kind of the way that i

01:16:12.820 think about it and what happened with the biden administration man it's crazy they were spending

01:16:18.740 so much money all over the world they weren't engaged in diplomacy at all so they'd sent i mean we

01:16:24.060 submit 300 billion dollars to ukraine for example and you never had the president united states actually

01:16:29.120 trying to force a diplomatic settlement we talk about bodies all over the ground dude the russia

01:16:35.380 ukraine thing is the most vicious we see satellite images we see classified images man it is it is

01:16:41.460 vicious and again it's i i i will i will hear people who will say well you know you know they're

01:16:47.580 again mostly on our side will say all these you know the russians got killed that's a good thing

01:16:52.020 look i'm not defending the invasion i'm not defending starting a war but when human beings

01:17:00.000 are getting blown to bits your heart should feel sad about that and you should try to do something

01:17:04.660 to fix it and that's what we're trying to do and we get crap for it but again that's like the part

01:17:09.400 that makes me feel the best about my job is whether it's in israel or russia ukraine like we're

01:17:14.280 actually trying to bring this stuff to some settlement and to some close and if we do we're going to

01:17:19.160 save a lot of lives and if we don't it was worth the try yeah um yeah i just have one more question

01:17:25.000 uh and yeah and i want to say yeah i recognize that it's like you can't expect people to do stuff

01:17:28.980 immediately you can't expect things to happen overnight sure and that you get into a place and

01:17:32.520 there's a lot of people that are already there and you have to figure out how do i make my way in

01:17:36.480 this how do i figure out to get some of the things i want and i have to give up some of the things

01:17:41.580 that i also want right and so uh i just want to let you know that i recognize that you know and i think

01:17:46.540 i learn to recognize that more i think the older that i get and learn a little bit more about

01:17:49.820 politics it's not just like this guy got the job everything's going to be done immediately

01:17:53.320 yeah um i do want to ask really quick this is important because um there's a lot like president

01:17:58.460 trump talked about uh this we he signed this executive order to make price transparency for

01:18:05.460 uh health care right and and for um hospital bills and medical billing and we talked about it last

01:18:11.180 time you were on you said your wife is getting birth and you didn't even know like how much it was

01:18:14.660 costing like what does this cost and what if we get to amnesia where your wife's like yeah i don't

01:18:18.160 want any amnesia or whatever and you're like you should take it you're like how much is it you know

01:18:21.840 but it's like nobody knows you know and then they're putting thirty thousand dollars of amnesia

01:18:26.140 in your wife you're like well shit and so it's like but what i'm saying is everybody at this point

01:18:31.600 is it's uh it's you know but it's a hundred trillion dollar multi hundred trillion dollar

01:18:36.580 industry yes that's going to change will we actually see it take place like biden administration

01:18:41.440 tried to get price transparency they couldn't they were too caught up they couldn't get it done

01:18:45.660 trump signed the executive order do you think we will actually see this happen so i do i think it's

01:18:52.040 going to take a little time but we took the first big step when the president signed that executive

01:18:55.800 order and you asked this question about donors right so the pharmaceutical industry gives a ton of

01:19:01.700 money to republicans and democrats i'll tell you they were not happy when the president did that and

01:19:07.080 the president's attitude is look it's the right thing for the american people so i think again

01:19:11.180 it's an example of when you've got to tune out the financial pressures of politics for sure just do

01:19:16.580 what's right well people are afraid to get people are afraid to get sick not because okay dude let me

01:19:20.740 sorry am i being loud to you i'm sorry no you're you're fine okay here's something um no i mean your

01:19:25.900 normal volume i would say okay sorry i felt a little it's not towards you i'm thankful that you're

01:19:31.420 spending time with me no no you're good man um so so i'll tell you a crazy story a buddy of mine

01:19:37.420 was visiting recently a friend from back home and his wife told me this story that his kid they

01:19:45.820 thought he was special needs maybe had sort of a neurological disorder just because he was sort of

01:19:52.420 emotional or not emotionally educationally behind his peers turns out he was just deaf he needed a

01:19:58.660 cochlear implant and it took this this you know my my buddy's wife just fighting with the insurance

01:20:05.320 companies for forever to get this kid the medicine that he needed the treatment they needed and now the

01:20:10.000 kid he's happy he's healthy it's a beautiful child smart child like that's amazing right that's what we

01:20:15.180 want medical science to do is to take a serious problem and make it better well why why do we have a

01:20:22.540 medical system in this country where too many people can't get the treatment that they need and and

01:20:27.340 they're it's a complicated answer that question but one of the big problems is and i don't think

01:20:32.520 most americans realize this we subsidize when you go to the hospital or you go to the doctor and you

01:20:38.000 pay out the rear end for a treatment you are subsidizing all of the therapies all and we'll say

01:20:44.380 tell us what subsidizing means some people won't know so basically we pay more so that europeans and

01:20:49.020 other parts of the world pay less so we fund all the innovation we fund all the development of new

01:20:53.840 drugs and then americans pay way more that's why you know americans we spend 22 percent of our economy

01:20:59.560 on health care the europeans average out about 10 or 11 percent so we spend way more on health care

01:21:06.160 and they spend way less so the president uses example all the time you know the ozipic the the as he calls

01:21:13.640 it the fat shot drug he had a buddy who was on ozipic and had to go to canada to get it even though

01:21:21.220 it was invented in europe yeah and it was mass produced all over the world it was like a tenth

01:21:27.720 of the price in canada that it was the united states and the way that it is is the drug companies

01:21:31.760 make money off americans so they can offer discount drugs to everybody else so what that executive war

01:21:36.860 the reason why i think that approach is going to work way better than anything the biden administration

01:21:41.120 is doing is it's going to say the americans get to pay less and the europeans are going to have to pay

01:21:46.160 up a little bit you'll know more about what you're spending on but it also is more fair to americans

01:21:51.860 and i think that's i think that's a win-win scenario because you can't expect americans to

01:21:57.160 pay 10 times for prescription drugs what other people pay it's also by the way not that this is

01:22:01.280 the main issue but it's bankrupting people and it's bankrupting our country because we spend so much

01:22:06.820 more on health care and that's a major driver of our budgetary problem it's the number one cause of

01:22:11.540 bankruptcy is medical debt yes it is like people aren't afraid to get sick because they'll be sick

01:22:15.360 they're afraid to get sick because they can't afford to be sick that's right and the stress of

01:22:18.880 it is going to kill them that's right but do you think like he made the executive order do you think

01:22:22.160 well and i know it's like so hard to be like you do you know you know but it's like do you really

01:22:26.820 think we'll see this i mean it's like god give us give the people something i do now i do and we got

01:22:32.420 a great secretary of health and human services bobby kennedy have you done has bobby been on the show

01:22:37.040 before yeah okay he's a good dude he's we had bobby when everybody thought he was insane dude

01:22:41.620 hell yeah dude he had to give him a ride home his vehicle had been repossessed dude

01:22:48.560 yeah oh man i'm joking yeah so bobby bobby congratulations yeah we should have known that

01:22:54.880 for the senate confirmation hearings but yeah i mean bobby's a good dude and he really cares about

01:22:59.440 this stuff and this is what you need you need the will you need the good idea but you also need the

01:23:04.460 implementation i think the president's got the good idea he's got the executive order bobby's got the

01:23:09.780 implementation so like look am i going to tell you sitting here that all of our health care

01:23:14.420 problems are going to be fixed in 12 months no right but do i think that this is going to make

01:23:18.180 prescription drugs way more affordable over the long term absolutely okay um yeah and i know a lot

01:23:25.180 of people might be critical of this interview and stuff it's like i'm doing my best right i'm trying

01:23:28.360 my best and maybe i'm just too hard on myself sometimes um why would it be critical interview

01:23:32.460 because i'm a politician and like it's partisan yeah i think people expect i don't know but you would

01:23:37.040 have a democrat on huh you would have a democrat we got coming on oh nice okay that'll be interesting

01:23:42.860 but no i never met him you know i'm saying we got him coming on so it's like yeah i'm definitely

01:23:47.460 trying to learn more about it honestly he's a nice he's a nice guy but i but i think yeah i'm not

01:23:51.600 a um you know i don't know the history of of everything right so it's like i feel like we're

01:23:57.140 just trying to do our best and i'm trying to do my best with somebody who i consider a friend

01:24:00.680 and um yeah and to learn in as we go anyway anything else particular that you wanted to say

01:24:05.920 that you needed to get out to people i don't think so man i think we've covered a lot hopefully

01:24:09.500 i didn't get myself in too much trouble here but what are you talking about dude i think you're

01:24:13.820 good i'm trying to think of anything else dude but um you think trey hendrickson will get signed

01:24:18.600 that's the million dollar question or i guess the 50 million dollar question are y'all going to

01:24:23.960 subsidize that is that part of the big that's actually unknown that's a big part of the big beautiful

01:24:29.680 bill is 30 million dollars to the bingles to help with salary cap space i mean look so hendrickson

01:24:35.660 is worth it dude dude he's he's a generational talent it's very hard to get a guy like that

01:24:40.400 it's kind of crazy how like i'm a big football fan but edge rushers have become it's almost like

01:24:46.400 where left tackles were 10 or 15 years ago where everybody just realized there's this really

01:24:50.700 underpaid position yeah that you gotta have and so yeah i think we're gonna have to pay hendrickson

01:24:56.000 i hope so if he's here's what i'll say to to trey if you're watching this show if you're a republican

01:25:03.240 i will show up to a bingles game and take a photo with you if you sign on with the bingles and if

01:25:08.520 you're a democrat i'll stay the hell away just sign with the bingles because we got a chance man i

01:25:13.040 keep i say this every year but with burrow with jamar chase if we get our defense and our offensive

01:25:18.580 line we could have a true championship run it's exciting well um i just appreciate you coming and

01:25:24.220 spending time with me man thank you very much to bob richie kit rock for having us here today

01:25:27.700 and uh dude congratulations man i know you've had a very interesting life and um just really cool

01:25:33.860 it's inspiring it's good to see you thanks for having me dude you too brother

01:25:36.700 now i'm just floating on the breeze and i feel i'm falling like these leaves i must be cornerstone

01:25:47.020 oh but when i reach that ground i'll share this peace of mind i found i can feel it

01:25:55.780 it's in my bones but it's gonna tell you

This Past Weekend with Theo Von - June 07, 2025

#588 - Vice President JD Vance

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