This Past Weekend with Theo Von - #590

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00:01:14.820 What's going on?

00:01:16.720 What am I doing?

00:01:17.780 What am I doing?

00:01:20.460 What am I doing?

00:01:22.300 You ever have...

00:01:23.000 That's where I'm at.

00:01:24.360 Like, what am I doing?

00:01:26.140 What am I doing?

00:01:26.980 You feel like that sometimes, ever?

00:01:31.620 What am I doing?

00:01:34.340 Like, you know the feeling like you go back in the house to get something, and then you

00:01:38.340 get in there, and you don't know.

00:01:39.360 You're just staying in it.

00:01:40.100 You're like, what am I...

00:01:41.280 You go into different rooms, and like, what...

00:01:43.960 Does this feel like what I'm...

00:01:46.360 Why I was coming back in here?

00:01:47.700 Does it feel like it's in here?

00:01:49.740 You know, it's like you're like on a scavenger hunt just with your own memory.

00:01:53.580 That's how I feel.

00:01:57.640 I just...

00:01:58.800 It's just one of those days.

00:02:01.580 The whole day feels like that, kind of.

00:02:04.840 You ever have those type of days where you're like, this ain't my day.

00:02:11.040 This day...

00:02:11.600 Me and this day don't even know each other.

00:02:15.920 You know, you're alive the whole day, but like, you just don't even belong to the calendar.

00:02:21.380 Like, you're just loitering.

00:02:23.580 That's the kind...

00:02:25.700 That's where I'm at.

00:02:27.780 That's where I'm at.

00:02:31.660 And I don't know if it's the world making me feel that way.

00:02:33.540 If it's just me, I mean, it's, you know...

00:02:36.300 But it's okay.

00:02:38.700 You know, I show up here.

00:02:40.020 I'm happy to be here today with you guys.

00:02:45.360 Yeah, my name's Theo, and I'm happy to be here.

00:02:47.460 Happy belated Father's Day.

00:02:51.940 Let's say that.

00:02:53.820 Happy belated Father's Day.

00:02:55.780 To all the men out there who...

00:02:58.520 Who make those choices.

00:03:00.440 Even the choices their children don't see.

00:03:02.780 To show up.

00:03:05.340 You know, they do the extra thing.

00:03:08.980 You know?

00:03:10.340 They do the things they're supposed to do as a father.

00:03:14.340 You know?

00:03:15.140 They follow the blueprint.

00:03:19.300 Happy belated Father's Day to those guys.

00:03:22.760 And sorry we didn't get this episode out last week.

00:03:26.320 But here we are.

00:03:27.500 Right?

00:03:28.200 Here we are.

00:03:29.880 And some people, you may not have a father.

00:03:32.840 Right?

00:03:33.640 Your father may have passed, or he may not be in your life.

00:03:38.000 You know, I can relate to some of that where...

00:03:40.380 Like, sometimes I'll find pieces of my father in other men.

00:03:45.420 You know?

00:03:46.500 There's certain men I'll go to for, like, certain advice.

00:03:49.080 Or, you know, and I get a little piece of fatherhood there.

00:03:55.200 There's certain men I'll call when maybe I'm scared.

00:03:57.960 Or maybe when things are good.

00:04:00.860 And I'll share them.

00:04:01.860 And I'll get a little piece of fatherhood there.

00:04:07.460 So, happy belated Father's Day to all the fathers.

00:04:10.320 Or even just all the men in the world that create pieces of fatherhood for others.

00:04:17.120 Even sometimes they don't even know they do it, I bet.

00:04:23.300 What's going on?

00:04:25.520 Oh, I went to Qatar.

00:04:26.920 I hadn't even talked about that.

00:04:28.820 I went to the Middle East, baby.

00:04:31.800 And the Middle East, dude, it's...

00:04:34.320 I mean, it is...

00:04:36.800 It's something.

00:04:38.340 It's like, you ever open the oven door?

00:04:42.080 And that bitch is on?

00:04:45.620 That's the Middle East, boy.

00:04:47.380 That bitch is on.

00:04:50.780 Like, the whole time I'm there, I'm just looking to, like, turn off the preheat switch or something.

00:04:55.000 I'm like, damn, somebody set this bitch on broil.

00:04:58.220 The sun is over there.

00:05:01.680 It's geeking, bro.

00:05:03.700 The sun is over there.

00:05:05.240 It's down.

00:05:06.320 That shit, the heat come down on you.

00:05:08.460 Like, dang, bro.

00:05:09.240 This sun trying to press me.

00:05:10.620 This heat feeling a little bit zesty, this shit.

00:05:13.380 Because that heat will get everywhere.

00:05:14.840 It'll get down the back of your neck.

00:05:16.460 Like, god dang.

00:05:18.420 That heat start undoing your belt buckle.

00:05:20.880 You're like, gosh.

00:05:22.420 This sun getting zesty.

00:05:25.880 That's heat gaying, bro.

00:05:27.500 That's heat gaying, man.

00:05:30.760 But I got invited over there by the...

00:05:33.940 Qatari...

00:05:35.780 And it's Q-A-T-A-R.

00:05:38.220 That's how it's spelled.

00:05:40.520 And it doesn't have a U in it.

00:05:41.880 And the whole time, I'm thinking, like, should I get these guys a gift or something for inviting me over?

00:05:45.880 And I was like, I'll get them the letter U.

00:05:47.780 You know, let's get a big U in a box and give that to them.

00:05:51.980 But then you're like, nah, all right.

00:05:53.840 They doing their own shit, bro.

00:05:55.460 They're conserving.

00:05:57.080 Hell, they're conserving water.

00:05:58.340 They're conserving letters, too.

00:06:00.980 And I got invited over there by the...

00:06:03.580 I guess it's the...

00:06:05.780 Like, kind of the board that...

00:06:09.260 The tourism board, I guess.

00:06:11.900 So that's who I got invited over there by.

00:06:14.100 And it was in conjunction with a time that Donald Trump was going to be there performing for the troops.

00:06:21.120 Or speaking to the troops.

00:06:22.740 And so I got to perform that same day.

00:06:25.300 Probably maybe like an hour or so before he was up there.

00:06:29.580 The show was...

00:06:30.820 It was...

00:06:32.940 Hectic.

00:06:33.740 And the show was hectic.

00:06:34.680 Because there weren't supposed to be any cameras.

00:06:36.220 I got on stage.

00:06:36.880 There were like 20 news cameras.

00:06:38.480 So that was a total surprise.

00:06:40.700 And so we had to make some adjustments or whatever.

00:06:44.380 But just getting to be there and see the base and see the soldiers over there and see the people that, you know, that made that commitment.

00:06:53.200 It was very inspiring.

00:06:55.260 And it was just real, you know.

00:06:59.580 And so that was really special.

00:07:01.480 I felt very lucky to just get to witness that.

00:07:04.500 To be allowed to show up.

00:07:06.480 What else did we do there?

00:07:09.820 Oh, it's very organized there.

00:07:11.220 The sidewalks.

00:07:12.200 That bitch stays in line, bro.

00:07:14.760 You know, I'm from Louisiana.

00:07:16.680 And the sidewalk there, they got...

00:07:18.540 One of them bitches will be at a 40 degree.

00:07:21.180 The next cement plank will be at like a 6 degree.

00:07:26.640 The next one will have a damn off-ramp.

00:07:29.500 I've seen a sidewalk with a damn off-ramp on it in Louisiana, bro.

00:07:33.860 Because the oak trees, the roots grow up under the sidewalk.

00:07:39.000 And they'll push that bitch off, dog.

00:07:41.180 Bro, you trying to walk down a street, you end up fucking six blocks over, bro.

00:07:45.320 If you follow the sidewalk, that bitch will take you wherever, dude.

00:07:50.600 So a lot of times in Louisiana, you see somebody walking right along the side of the street.

00:07:54.640 And that's why.

00:07:55.740 Because them sidewalks, them bitches, dang.

00:07:58.900 They don't care.

00:08:00.080 They ain't...

00:08:01.500 Each piece of cement barely even knows the next piece.

00:08:05.120 Them bitches, they at odds.

00:08:07.940 You know, and then you'll have one tsunami, you know, it'll hit a damn sinkhole.

00:08:11.080 That bitch will be 40 feet down.

00:08:14.020 You know, you trying to go half a block and next thing you know, you got repelling equipment on.

00:08:19.260 So it's just heading...

00:08:20.680 Going down a Louisiana sidewalk is very intense.

00:08:23.180 But in Qatar or Qatar, they say Qatar.

00:08:28.640 That's everything is very organized.

00:08:30.440 Every lamplight, every...

00:08:32.080 It's pristine, you know.

00:08:35.560 It's like a Christmas village, but they don't believe in Christmas, you know.

00:08:39.900 I don't think anyway.

00:08:40.680 I don't know if they do or not.

00:08:41.640 Let me see.

00:08:42.080 Do Muslims believe in Christmas?

00:08:54.260 No, Muslims do not celebrate Christmas.

00:08:56.660 If Jesus, peace be upon him, is so revered in Islam, why do we not celebrate his birthday?

00:09:01.580 It is necessary to point out that Jesus and his mother, Mary, are revered highly by Muslims.

00:09:07.880 As far as celebrating the Christmas as the birthday of Jesus is concerned, the Muslim community do not celebrate it just as we do not celebrate the birthdays of any other prophet.

00:09:18.360 We believe that celebrating a prophet's birth amounts to adopting that prophet's teachings as a way of life.

00:09:23.300 If the teachings are not followed, the Almighty's displeasure is invoked.

00:09:26.860 Yeah, so anyway, they got, you know, they got a different setup over there.

00:09:31.520 But, yeah, all the...

00:09:33.460 And a lot of the buildings, they look very much...

00:09:35.880 They have like a castle top.

00:09:37.880 You ever see like a rook piece if you're playing chess or the top of a castle?

00:09:43.180 It's like, it's got a little square goes up and then it goes down and up and down.

00:09:48.900 Like a riveting kind of...

00:09:50.840 Every building in Qatar was like that.

00:09:53.520 I mean, you're like, damn, is that a damn fortress?

00:09:56.820 And they're like, dang, nah, son, that's a damn Carl's Jr., bro.

00:10:00.200 That's a...

00:10:01.260 Nah, they just protecting the fucking new chicken sandwich and that bitch, you know?

00:10:05.020 But it was really awesome just to be there and see what it was like.

00:10:11.260 The tourism people that had me come, the...

00:10:14.300 I think it was like the prime minister maybe or somebody else.

00:10:17.060 They were very accommodating.

00:10:19.680 They invited me over to their house for dinner, which was great, man.

00:10:23.300 You sit there and they bring...

00:10:27.540 Dude, they got condiments.

00:10:30.100 They won the condiment war, bro.

00:10:32.640 No, we got a couple condiments.

00:10:34.700 You see a little bit of ketchup.

00:10:35.980 You see some mayonnaise, baby, you know?

00:10:38.080 You see that mustard, bro.

00:10:39.620 And sometimes it's mustarded, you know?

00:10:41.680 But you eat it anyway, bro.

00:10:43.500 You don't have a lot because you don't want to catch nothing, you know?

00:10:45.960 We're passing on to your children.

00:10:48.180 But you eat over there.

00:10:49.660 They got...

00:10:50.700 They had a little cut of lamb or something and they got 30 sauces.

00:10:54.960 They got shit.

00:10:56.560 They got a damn...

00:10:57.400 One of the sauces had a damn deep end on the dish of it.

00:11:00.320 I was like, yeah.

00:11:02.120 That sauce got a shallow, a deep end.

00:11:04.560 They had a damn...

00:11:07.160 A little hot tub full of damn...

00:11:09.280 Some turquoise fuchsia afterpaste or something.

00:11:12.780 Everything.

00:11:14.040 Bloop, bloop, bloop, bloop, bloop, bloop.

00:11:16.560 Just condimented.

00:11:19.920 So that was wonderful just to be invited to be able to do that.

00:11:24.800 Oh, they have dates over there.

00:11:26.400 That's like one of their big fruits or vegetables or...

00:11:30.120 Shit, I mean, a date.

00:11:31.280 They're like, oh, you like dates?

00:11:32.440 The dates.

00:11:33.460 I'm like, that bitch, that's just a fucking old-ass plum, homie.

00:11:36.600 That bitch is a...

00:11:37.360 That's a senior citizen plum, brother.

00:11:39.820 That's what you guys are eating.

00:11:43.040 But they were just great senses of humor.

00:11:46.020 Like, it was just fun, man.

00:11:47.400 I went to like a three-hour dinner and it was a blast.

00:11:50.280 And everything there, they have huge buildings for like a lot of stuff

00:11:53.600 because they have extra money to build, you know.

00:11:56.040 Don't have like a damn 30-floor anytime fitness in that bitch, you know.

00:12:01.360 And, you know, you're doing curls on the 17th floor.

00:12:05.120 They got leg press on the ninth floor, you know.

00:12:08.500 And they got saltwater baths down there on the third floor, you know.

00:12:13.880 On the second floor then, they got a leak, obviously, coming from the ceiling.

00:12:17.200 But that's how gravity is, you know.

00:12:19.780 Well, what else was interesting really about it?

00:12:24.680 We almost stayed for a Travis Scott concert the night after, but we didn't.

00:12:29.940 One thing that's interesting over there, they had the World Cup a few years ago.

00:12:35.020 So there's still a lot of these huge soccer stadiums, right?

00:12:38.720 And they're kind of just, you know, they use them for different events,

00:12:41.740 but they're just everywhere.

00:12:43.420 You're like, oh, there's a soccer stadium.

00:12:45.220 There's a soccer stadium.

00:12:47.480 It's kind of fascinating just to see, like, all these huge empty soccer stadiums out in the desert.

00:12:54.220 What else?

00:12:54.800 We got to swim in the Persian Gulf right outside our hotel.

00:12:57.040 They had a part of the Persian Gulf, so I got to swim out there.

00:13:00.840 Real salty, nice.

00:13:03.740 What else?

00:13:04.900 Oh, let me think.

00:13:06.480 Oh, and then I had some people say, asking me,

00:13:09.080 were you compromised by the Qatari government?

00:13:13.220 Were you a spy?

00:13:15.900 No.

00:13:16.880 I would never be a spy, I don't think.

00:13:18.700 I don't think I would be a good spy, dude.

00:13:22.640 I don't know.

00:13:24.840 I don't know.

00:13:25.260 I could.

00:13:26.740 If it's like, you know, no, I don't.

00:13:30.860 I guess spies have to hide all the time and shit.

00:13:33.060 I wouldn't do it.

00:13:34.260 I wouldn't do it.

00:13:35.940 So, no, I didn't get asked to be a spy.

00:13:37.700 Part of me was almost low-key hoping I would or something like that.

00:13:41.620 Because I was like, why are they having me come over?

00:13:43.800 But I didn't get asked to be a spy.

00:13:46.700 I didn't get, what's it called when you get compromised or whatever.

00:13:51.660 None of that shit happened to me.

00:13:53.740 I didn't even get an offer, which that kind of bummed me out.

00:13:56.760 But, yeah, they didn't ask me to say anything specific about their place or them or anything.

00:14:03.620 All they did was just treat me very nice.

00:14:06.000 I went with my tour manager.

00:14:07.120 And we got to wear the traditional garbs.

00:14:10.900 It's one of the thobes, one of the nice robes.

00:14:13.660 I have a picture of us in it on YouTube.

00:14:17.560 I mean, everybody, it looks kind of like an altar boy.

00:14:20.120 Like, everybody looks like an altar.

00:14:21.100 You know, it looks like somebody's about to get molested, dude.

00:14:23.980 It definitely seems like they holding a damn molestable, you know?

00:14:28.200 Like, but then you realize, oh, that's just the garb.

00:14:31.100 And it's just almost like a private school.

00:14:32.560 That's what I learned, so that everybody wears the same thing, so there's not, like, a level of hierarchy between clothing or anything like that.

00:14:40.380 Anything else about it that was super fascinating?

00:14:42.880 It was a very short trip.

00:14:44.160 It was, like, 36 hours.

00:14:46.300 I don't think I slept the whole time.

00:14:48.360 I hit jet lag.

00:14:49.240 I didn't worry about it.

00:14:50.180 And then just slept on the way home.

00:14:53.980 But, oh, you can't, like, there's not, like, places to just go drink and stuff.

00:14:57.860 So you could drink at your hotels.

00:15:01.000 Everybody's kind of covered up.

00:15:02.280 So you don't, it feels very, it felt very proper.

00:15:06.660 That was kind of the energy that I got.

00:15:09.920 But then you're talking to a lot of the guys there.

00:15:12.300 And a lot of them, they went to, like, University of Oregon or, you know, Texas A&M or something.

00:15:19.200 So you're like, oh, this guy's just in this kind of fancy outfit.

00:15:23.680 You know, he looks like a baby angel.

00:15:25.060 Like, everybody looks like they would be on top of a Christmas tree.

00:15:27.740 Like, but they, a lot of them, that's just once they go back to their country, that's how they operate.

00:15:34.180 So, but it was a great experience.

00:15:36.500 I'm glad I got to do it.

00:15:38.120 We got to go, Al-Assad Air Base was the place.

00:15:41.960 And thank you to everybody that's stationed there, that's stationed anywhere.

00:15:45.160 Happy belated 250th birthday to the Army.

00:15:48.820 But, yeah, I just, yeah, I really enjoyed it, you know, because I think I always had this idea in my head of, I don't know, I think the Middle East is also, is often framed as kind of scary.

00:16:04.080 And it was definitely intriguing, like, very, like, Casablanca-y, like, you're just wondering what's going on everywhere.

00:16:11.660 But I didn't feel, like, threatened or scared at all, you know.

00:16:18.760 And I was also on a U.S. military base for half of one day.

00:16:21.700 So, that's, I mean, the dogs have my back over there.

00:16:26.880 So, that was really beautiful.

00:16:30.060 But, yeah, I would go back.

00:16:31.660 So, just want to share that about that experience.

00:16:34.360 And no, nobody paid me to say that.

00:16:36.000 I've never been, I've never been paid for, I mean, I get paid for advertisements and stuff, but I've never been, had anybody say, we need you to say this or not say this in my whole life.

00:16:51.560 So, yeah, just want to say that.

00:16:55.260 Or are they paying me?

00:16:57.660 Dun, dun, dun.

00:17:01.220 What else?

00:17:03.060 Oh, sorry, I feel nervous today.

00:17:06.000 I don't know.

00:17:07.600 I just feel like it's just not, you know, it's just not, you're like, this day is never going to fit perfect.

00:17:11.580 You know what?

00:17:12.080 You know what I've been thinking about is just, like, a lot, like, just about your voice, right?

00:17:17.340 Like, just having a voice.

00:17:19.540 Like, what does it mean, you know?

00:17:22.720 Because sometimes it feels to me, sometimes, like, we're in a place where people get afraid to speak up.

00:17:28.180 You know, I get afraid to speak up.

00:17:31.040 So, maybe it's not people.

00:17:32.400 Maybe it's just me.

00:17:33.920 Yeah, so let me just say me.

00:17:35.040 So, I'm not, I feel like I'm putting that on anybody.

00:17:38.220 Yeah, I wonder sometimes, like, man, it's like, I don't know if what I want to say is right.

00:17:43.920 You know, like, it feels right, but I don't know, you know?

00:17:46.440 And so, then I get scared to speak up.

00:17:48.880 And I just wonder if that's, I think having some, you know, knowing when to kind of hold them, know when to fold them, know when, you know, or not that, let's walk away.

00:18:03.100 But, yeah, know when to say something, know when not to say something is important.

00:18:06.660 But, yeah, I just, I think I've been thinking a lot about that, like, having a voice.

00:18:11.280 Like, what does it mean to have a voice and, you know, and to be able to share and to speak up and, you know, and when do you do that?

00:18:20.060 I think that's been something that's been on my mind a lot lately, personally.

00:18:24.680 I did a 72-hour fast, 73 hours I made it to, which was pretty cool.

00:18:31.840 It was kind of scary, but it wasn't that scary.

00:18:34.160 I felt good about it.

00:18:35.540 I'm glad that I did it.

00:18:38.840 Battled a bit with dehydration.

00:18:41.340 Chewed some gum that didn't have anything in it, basically, to make me feel like I was having something sometimes.

00:18:46.580 And then I would put salt on my hand and lick it and just drink some water with it.

00:18:51.100 What else?

00:18:51.900 What else is happening?

00:18:52.700 Man, let's get into some calls.

00:18:55.340 There's a lot that's going on in the world right now.

00:18:57.360 We'll get into some of that.

00:19:00.900 They're trying to, I don't know if they're trying to get us into a war with Iran or not, America, if Israel is trying to.

00:19:08.200 I don't trust the Israel leader at all.

00:19:13.480 I don't believe anything that guy says.

00:19:15.680 And I don't think that our soldiers should have to go and defend stuff that they start.

00:19:29.540 I'm not a soldier, so I might – I'm obviously speaking out of turn.

00:19:34.700 I'm not even brave enough to serve, so there's that element.

00:19:37.400 But that is kind of how I feel, I guess.

00:19:41.920 And so it's like, yeah, when do I speak – when do I say that?

00:19:45.320 Because it feels like you're trying to push Trump to go do that, and it's like, who makes that choice?

00:19:53.120 Does he make that choice?

00:19:54.100 And then what do we get, you know, what's the win for us?

00:19:58.180 We're just involved in some other thing while we have suffering here at home.

00:20:05.920 So maybe something like that is like, yeah, do I have – should I even speak up?

00:20:10.120 Because I'm not in service.

00:20:11.840 Servicemen and women may be like, we want it, we'll do it, you know, and that's their commitment and their job.

00:20:17.260 But, yeah, I just – I don't know.

00:20:23.520 That guy really scares me, and I don't know why we support them.

00:20:29.160 I don't understand that.

00:20:30.840 I wish they would really give us a better explanation, you know, especially after the massacres in Gaza.

00:20:38.320 I don't understand.

00:20:40.020 I do not understand that.

00:20:43.860 And some people say, well, you don't know enough about it.

00:20:46.080 That may – and it may not.

00:20:48.780 But it's like, dude, can I still speak about it?

00:20:52.420 Can I speak about how I feel about it?

00:20:57.360 You know?

00:20:58.820 Moments like that.

00:20:59.600 Like when do I – when am I – when do I need to speak up and share just for myself, right?

00:21:08.960 You know, and not even try to – I don't think this is virtue signaling.

00:21:11.940 I don't know exactly what that is.

00:21:13.020 I was talking with my producer about it today.

00:21:14.560 I – I – but I think I'm talking about a voice from us.

00:21:19.660 Like when do I speak up for myself?

00:21:25.900 Let's take some calls here that came in.

00:21:28.340 You guys had calls about some interesting stuff, and we'll get into it.

00:21:31.860 Hey, Theo.

00:21:33.000 So I was calling to say thank you for your support of the Palestinian people.

00:21:43.480 I know I sound like lib, snowflake, whatever the fuck those guys think of people who support the Palestinians.

00:21:52.520 I don't think that – I don't think somebody's supporting what appears to be like a massacre of a lot of children.

00:22:01.500 I don't see – I'm shocked that there aren't more voices sometimes speaking up.

00:22:05.500 But that's also coming from a place where, you know, I can take care of myself, I know, and feed myself and roof myself for the rest of my life.

00:22:15.560 And so other people's lives are different.

00:22:18.720 And so, yeah, I can be surprised by that, but I can also totally understand that for sure.

00:22:24.540 Onward.

00:22:25.660 Hearing you today on the podcast with J.D. Vance speaking up for those people who have no voices.

00:22:32.740 Like I think I ovulated while I was listening to the pod.

00:22:35.880 Whoa, dang, Easter came early right there.

00:22:41.900 Well, thank you for the call.

00:22:43.480 I appreciate you sharing what you thought.

00:22:46.940 And, yeah, I don't think it's like a choice just to try and speak up about Gaza and about Palestine.

00:22:52.240 I think for me it just feels like there's not – it's not even a choice.

00:22:58.320 It's just like how can you watch this?

00:22:59.780 It's like am I – I'm sorry that it took me so long to say something.

00:23:06.840 To be very honest, I was afraid, you know.

00:23:09.400 I think I was afraid.

00:23:10.500 I think I – you know, it's just like trying to connect your instinct to your voice sometimes.

00:23:18.460 I think that's always been something that's been a little bit tough for me.

00:23:22.240 But I didn't think that I did a good job, to be honest with you, on the Vance interview.

00:23:27.780 I had follow-up questions about certain parts of it, right?

00:23:30.820 I had follow-up questions about, you know, the surveillance state and the genocide and what else?

00:23:41.360 Oh, the money that we give Israel.

00:23:42.860 Like I had follow-up questions about these things.

00:23:44.960 I just – I don't know.

00:23:48.300 I don't know if I got like afraid or – I don't know.

00:23:53.520 And I think part of me gets stuck in this space where it's like, well, this is a comedy podcast.

00:23:58.540 But then a lot of like life starts to get mixed into it.

00:24:01.700 And then it's like, well, what do – I guess I think, well, what do people want?

00:24:06.540 And so that probably has something to do with it.

00:24:18.820 I think the last time that J.D. came on, and I was very grateful for him.

00:24:22.960 I like J.D.

00:24:24.000 I was very grateful that he came on.

00:24:27.860 We'd known like a month in advance that he was coming.

00:24:31.280 And – but last time he was like campaigning, right?

00:24:34.140 It was just him and his cousin in the room, and it just – it felt a little bit less pressure.

00:24:38.280 This didn't feel like a ton of pressure, but it was – you know, he had like his campaign team and stuff in their secret service there.

00:24:44.060 And they can kind of wrap up the interview whenever.

00:24:48.220 You know, I think that fear was in my head.

00:24:50.600 Like maybe, well, if I say the wrong thing, are they just going to kind of shut down the interview?

00:24:55.900 I'm not saying that that was true at all.

00:24:58.000 I'm just saying that that was something that was probably in my head.

00:25:00.460 But – and then you realize that there's a level of kind of diplomacy, you know?

00:25:09.040 What is diplomacy?

00:25:09.960 I'm going to look it up.

00:25:11.720 Okay.

00:25:12.380 Of or concerning the profession, activity, or skill of managing relations.

00:25:19.400 It says international relations, but I just think relations, right?

00:25:22.040 Like I was like, oh, well, if I try – if I ask too much, will they not want to come back again?

00:25:30.780 Will I lose the bridge to be able to communicate with him, right?

00:25:36.720 For me, that was something – so I'm just trying to manage it, you know?

00:25:39.800 Because you start to realize like in politics that there's a level of give and take with all of those meetings they go into and all the votes and the – you know, they're all like behind the scenes like trading this option for, okay, well, I'll help support you here if you can help support me.

00:25:56.300 You know, there's just so much of that.

00:25:57.640 It's very much that Game of Thrones type of energy.

00:25:59.760 But, yeah, but I wish I had spoken up a little bit, you know?

00:26:03.760 I felt like Mr. Vance gave more political answers this time, so it felt different.

00:26:11.340 I don't think I was as prepared for that.

00:26:13.760 I think sometimes it seemed like – I don't know if he answered exactly what I was asking, but I – it's my job to like fine-tune the question or make sure that I at least get my question very clear.

00:26:26.180 So there was a lot of that.

00:26:27.800 You know, all those things kind of happening at once, I guess, and then also you're like, well, people can make their choices about things, right?

00:26:41.380 So sometimes if you just have a conversation with people, they'll derive from it when they hear the person speak.

00:26:48.220 They might be like, okay, I believe this person or I don't believe this person or I empathize or I sympathize or I understand this person or, wow, I'm surprised by that person, right?

00:27:00.940 Or people – so sometimes I think that that's kind of what a podcast is a lot of times as opposed to like an interview.

00:27:09.720 It's just a space where people talk and then people can devise their own thoughts about the conversation.

00:27:17.960 And I'm not trying to take any skin off of my own neck as being an interviewer.

00:27:23.300 But then it's like, well, is this an interview or is it a podcast?

00:27:28.520 So there's all – you know, there's just like little things I think that I'm just kind of still learning and navigating and just how to have a voice in those spaces, you know?

00:27:37.820 I think that I could have joked less.

00:27:39.440 But then you get into this space, well, do I have a responsibility like a social or societal responsibility to ask certain things?

00:27:49.640 But that's very scary because then it's like, oh, well, that's like ego.

00:27:56.080 You know, that's like, well, do I – I mean, you know, you have to be careful that you're just not getting into this ego place.

00:28:05.240 So, yeah, I don't know.

00:28:06.300 I feel scared.

00:28:06.900 I don't know if – shit, I might just be having a little bit extra Celsius today.

00:28:10.600 But, yeah, so there was just a lot going on.

00:28:13.340 I do feel like I could have done a better job.

00:28:15.340 I definitely feel like I live and learn.

00:28:18.640 I think there were a lot of like little things in there.

00:28:21.420 But I'm grateful to have had that opportunity.

00:28:24.240 And, you know, I hope to be able to do better in certain instances in the future and get the questions in that I want to, that I do feel like are important.

00:28:32.420 Anyway, I don't want to lament over it too much or like overlook at it too much.

00:28:36.900 But those are just my thoughts, you know?

00:28:40.240 And you can think whatever you want.

00:28:41.540 You may have hated even him sitting in there, you know?

00:28:44.660 You might not be – you know, he might not be your cup of tea, you know?

00:28:50.220 So, anyway, so, yeah, that's kind of – yeah, I'm just rambling about that shit now.

00:28:59.180 But that was something that's on my mind, you know?

00:29:01.240 I wish – and I wish I had spoken up more and had another couple of follow-up questions about the Middle East.

00:29:05.700 And it's okay.

00:29:07.980 I'm not going to get down on myself.

00:29:10.120 But I want to be able to just – I want to do my best, you know?

00:29:15.600 I want to do my best.

00:29:17.840 And what does that mean?

00:29:18.960 You know, it could mean many things.

00:29:20.340 But, yeah.

00:29:23.040 Thank you guys for just anybody that paid attention to it for even checking it out and for bearing with me.

00:29:27.560 You know, I also think that, damn, dude, after – you've done 500 episodes.

00:29:31.100 If you haven't figured some of this shit out by now, then this is where we are.

00:29:35.240 We just did a great episode about the Roman Empire, too.

00:29:37.480 I thought it was really good.

00:29:39.220 Just trying to be there and listen a little bit more.

00:29:42.060 I wish I would have done, but I thought it was fun.

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00:31:10.380 Let's take another call here.

00:31:13.600 Thank you.

00:31:14.380 I just wanted to get your thoughts on a topic regarding what's going on with the ICE raids down in L.A.

00:31:22.880 I was a victim of a sexual assault when I was in college, and I never got to go to trial or any of that because I never reported it.

00:31:32.580 Thank you for sharing that.

00:31:34.560 I'm sorry to hear that.

00:31:36.620 Thank you for sharing.

00:31:37.280 Onward.

00:31:37.500 Anyways, I was just thinking about in this country how there's, I mean, I don't know, at least 25,000 rape kits sitting in evidence lockers that are not tested and that while this is happening, people are being pulled from their families.

00:31:56.900 And that's what our country has decided to spend their money on.

00:32:00.440 Like, what do you think about that?

00:32:02.120 Like, do you really think that there is value in what our government is choosing to do?

00:32:07.840 Do you think that the citizens of this country who have actually committed crimes are better than people who have existed illegally, you know, picking fruit, like having families, like being good people?

00:32:26.040 Like, I know you love Mexicans.

00:32:28.420 I love Mexicans.

00:32:29.220 Like, they are, like, how mad or is all the whole food moms going to be when they can't afford strawberries?

00:32:37.480 Like, this is hilarious to me.

00:32:40.720 Yeah, I mean, there's a lot here.

00:32:42.280 Sorry, there's a lot in this voicemail.

00:32:43.660 Yeah, I love Mexicans.

00:32:45.080 I would like to be Mexican next time.

00:32:49.540 I've prayed for that.

00:32:50.800 God knows that.

00:32:51.620 So, if something ever happens to me, please look out for me.

00:32:56.400 And if you see me in El Barrio, say, bienvenidos, Teodoro.

00:33:05.160 But, yeah, sorry to kind of joke, but you were kind of laughing there at the end as well.

00:33:08.640 Yeah, I'm sorry about your sexual assault.

00:33:10.440 I don't – yeah, it's heartbreaking.

00:33:15.020 It's heartbreaking what – let me look up about those rape kits.

00:33:19.060 I didn't even know that.

00:33:21.620 How many rape kits are awaiting testing in the U.S.?

00:33:28.180 This is a site called USAFacts.org.

00:33:31.640 The federal government has spent over $1.3 billion to clear the rape kit backlog since 2011.

00:33:36.760 But USAFacts analysis uncovered thousands of rape kits awaiting testing in 2022.

00:33:41.800 At least 25,000 untested rape kits sat in law enforcement agencies and crime lives across the country.

00:33:46.500 Untested rape kits have significant consequences for both the criminal justice system and sexual assault survivors.

00:33:52.300 Not only can rape kit testing provide crucial evidence that helps identify perpetrators and bring them to justice, it also can connect perpetrators to other assaults.

00:34:00.840 Unreal.

00:34:02.060 Yeah, I didn't even – I was not even aware of that.

00:34:03.880 Thank you for bringing that to our attention.

00:34:07.540 It always – I'm always mesmerized by what our country appears to do with funding.

00:34:14.760 Right?

00:34:15.140 When I was a kid, I know my mother was like, why are we sending this money to these other places?

00:34:19.280 Like we don't – what is – you know, there's always been this situation.

00:34:23.660 Like why are we – why?

00:34:25.820 Like what do we need over here?

00:34:29.040 You know, with this money we're sending to Israel, we could do so many things, right?

00:34:34.020 We could do – and I just picked that place because it's the one that – you know, I think we sent them $12 billion already this year.

00:34:43.160 But yeah, like what are we – why?

00:34:46.480 Why?

00:34:47.320 Right?

00:34:48.600 Why?

00:34:49.000 And knowing that people are sitting there way just in a – the stress of waiting for a kid like this to come back, I just can't even fathom.

00:34:56.380 While the perpetrator is out there maybe doing more crimes, the alleged perpetrator is out there doing more crimes.

00:35:00.840 But let's talk about the ICE situation, you know, because I feel like that was more the focal point of your call.

00:35:08.720 I think a lot of things on this.

00:35:11.000 So one, I think a lot of what you see – not a lot.

00:35:16.000 I would say I bet half of what you see, the videos and stuff out of Los Angeles are not real.

00:35:21.800 I think a lot of them are seeds that are planted to create conflict, right?

00:35:26.780 To create more videos, you know, caring people show up, caring for a cause, they create more videos, and then there's all this extra videography.

00:35:34.920 But I believe that the – whatever you would call it, the Duralogue, whatever starts that, that that is kind of staged.

00:35:42.640 I feel like even a lot of the videos are probably staged.

00:35:45.360 I'm not saying all of them.

00:35:46.340 I'm not saying that deportations aren't happening.

00:35:48.360 I'm not saying any of that.

00:35:49.520 I just don't trust things that – a lot of some of the – a lot of the stuff in Los Angeles, I believe that a lot of things in our world are staged.

00:35:59.200 And then we see videos, and then we believe them.

00:36:01.460 I believe them.

00:36:02.080 You believe them.

00:36:02.660 We believe them.

00:36:04.920 Obviously, there's a lot of deportations going on.

00:36:07.540 It's sick when you see, like, children crying and people being taken from their parents.

00:36:11.580 It's heartbreaking.

00:36:13.700 It's – you know, it's – anybody thinks that that's heartbreaking.

00:36:21.100 Now, there's also – in the country, there's – you know, you have rules.

00:36:26.400 You have laws.

00:36:27.140 You have, like, these are the rules, right?

00:36:29.500 And some people are here.

00:36:30.740 They're illegal.

00:36:31.360 They're illegal by the letter of the law, technically.

00:36:34.080 They're undocumented.

00:36:34.920 Right?

00:36:36.940 Now, 40% of people that are here illegally are Mexican.

00:36:44.900 Right?

00:36:45.420 60% or not.

00:36:48.140 We're just coming off a huge influx of people that were just let into the country during the last political administration.

00:36:57.040 There's no – we've had border patrol agents on.

00:36:59.200 It's undeniable.

00:37:00.280 A lot of them are not even from Mexico.

00:37:02.220 A lot of them are not laborers that were just coming over for fruit season or for farming season and then coming back.

00:37:08.880 A lot of them are not that.

00:37:09.840 So, you know, you know, when Trump is a – he's heavy-handed.

00:37:15.660 That's who he is, right?

00:37:18.340 We've also had a broken system for a long time.

00:37:21.920 So, when the hammer starts to come down or the guillotine, as this is, it's not going to be comfortable.

00:37:30.960 And at first, it's going to be messy.

00:37:36.860 It's not going to be smooth.

00:37:38.960 And I think that – and I know Trump spoke the other day that there needs to be a way, and I believe wholeheartedly there needs to be a way where people who are productive citizens are allowed to get amnesty or create a path for them to have citizenship.

00:37:55.060 I believe that, undeniably.

00:37:59.340 There's also people who are like, well, when someone says they shouldn't be in our country, right?

00:38:04.000 You hear that they shouldn't be in our country.

00:38:05.440 Well, you know, this – or this is our land, right?

00:38:08.520 This – I believe that our land is still – that America is still fully entrenched by the ghosts of pain from what happened to Native American people.

00:38:20.000 I believe that, right?

00:38:21.560 I believe that the land doesn't forget.

00:38:25.940 I believe that.

00:38:27.260 I don't believe that we've made amends to those situations.

00:38:31.280 I think there's other situations in history that we haven't made amends to.

00:38:36.020 I believe that.

00:38:37.060 At the same time, like, I believe – and this is a bigger belief – that in a few years, there's this plan with – it was spoken a few weeks ago that Trump picked this company, Palantir, to create this digital database, right?

00:38:55.780 This – to use, like, AI technology to create this whole database of everything.

00:38:58.800 I had asked J.D. Vance about it.

00:39:00.920 So I believe in a few years in America that everywhere you go, there's going to be facial recognition.

00:39:06.300 They're going to be – it's just going to be all built into our society, right?

00:39:10.760 I mean built in.

00:39:12.420 So I don't think in a few years you would even be able to be in the country if you're not supposed to be by law, right, by the letter of the law.

00:39:22.600 I don't even think it's going to be possible.

00:39:24.480 I think that's where we're headed, and we're headed there quick.

00:39:27.100 And I think this is just one of the early stair steps you see of that, right, is the organization, the documentation.

00:39:34.680 Everybody – you have to know who's here.

00:39:37.040 You have to.

00:39:38.600 And I don't think – I think in a few years it's not going to matter.

00:39:43.620 The system will know, right?

00:39:46.100 I think it's Palantir is the company that's going to do it.

00:39:48.780 They've also been accused of a lot of dangerous stuff in Gaza.

00:39:51.560 But that's the company that's – we're going to be surveilling basically ourselves, right?

00:40:01.120 We as citizens, whoever we are, are going to be under surveillance in our own country.

00:40:05.900 That's going to be bonkers, dude.

00:40:07.160 So I believe that it's a bigger thing that these are the stairs – these are the baby steps of it is first is you got to know who's here.

00:40:16.820 You got to figure everything out.

00:40:18.960 And, yeah, I agree.

00:40:20.820 The stuff's gross.

00:40:21.520 It's sick.

00:40:22.540 It's heartbreaking.

00:40:23.300 You know, the stuff in Gaza is heartbreaking.

00:40:27.640 Us watching this and becoming immune to some of the – or not – you know, and then you're so overwhelmed sometimes you don't even know what to speak up about.

00:40:36.800 And you still also – most people have to take care of their families and get to school or worry about this or worry about that or do okay at their job.

00:40:43.680 But, you know, so – and then some people just stay out of it and they just go on about their lives.

00:40:51.180 And are they bad for doing that?

00:40:54.380 I don't think – you know, I don't think so.

00:40:56.220 It's just – it's all a lot.

00:40:59.380 It's all a lot.

00:41:00.640 That's what it feels like sometimes, you know?

00:41:03.860 It feels tough.

00:41:05.480 It feels tough to navigate.

00:41:06.980 What do I do?

00:41:07.780 How do I do this?

00:41:09.000 You know, but we feel – we see and we feel everything now.

00:41:12.080 So, emotionally, I think a lot of shit gets pretty overwhelming at times or we just start to get immune to it, which is even scarier because then you see something really messed up and you don't even say anything.

00:41:22.940 You literally move past it with your thumb.

00:41:27.380 So, anyway, sorry to be a downer right there with a lot of downer stuff.

00:41:31.840 There's also people that have been in the country technically illegal, right?

00:41:35.300 Like, by the letter of the law, whom – I don't know if over the years they've had the opportunity to figure that out.

00:41:43.740 Is there – you know, have there been opportunities?

00:41:45.840 I don't know enough about it.

00:41:47.100 I'm not – I don't know enough about immigration policy to know if they've had – where they could go to an office and get that figured out over the years.

00:41:55.980 I don't know.

00:41:56.640 I don't know what that's like.

00:41:57.820 I bet it's also miserable to be, like, living in the shadows and, like, worried all the time that this isn't going to be able to get figured out or this won't be able to be figured out.

00:42:09.860 And you also have to believe that different political parties, they will use these things as kickball.

00:42:14.160 They'll use certain videos and stuff as kickballs to get us all to watch the ball in the air, right?

00:42:20.020 And even though sometimes it's – some of the situations it's horrible.

00:42:22.620 Oh, we're watching the – you're watching the monkey juggle.

00:42:25.400 Meanwhile, the monkey's stealing all your shit.

00:42:28.260 The monkey gots all your bananas, baby.

00:42:30.920 You down fruitless.

00:42:31.880 You down bad.

00:42:36.640 But prayers.

00:42:39.600 If a Mexican person needs to hide at my house, man, I'd be willing to discuss it.

00:42:43.320 Fuck.

00:42:43.600 I don't know if I should say that out loud or not.

00:42:45.500 Ugh.

00:42:48.460 But, yeah, I just – and sometimes people are like, you got to speak about this.

00:42:53.840 Guys, you speak what you feel you need to speak about, okay?

00:43:00.840 You speak what you think you need to speak about.

00:43:03.880 Because also, I don't sit there all day looking at every – you know, I don't sit there all day looking at every single thing and moment.

00:43:12.840 Some stuff I'm not even attuned to.

00:43:14.600 There's other genocides happening in the world that I don't even know about, right?

00:43:18.820 And that you don't even know about.

00:43:20.020 And that's okay, you know.

00:43:22.060 So, anyway, there's a lot going on there.

00:43:24.920 That's all I'm saying.

00:43:26.500 And I think this is all part of a bigger – this is just the beginning step.

00:43:31.540 This isn't – while we're all watching this, so many other things are going on.

00:43:36.780 And the crazy part about all of everything is, of everything, is that it's always the same shit.

00:43:43.180 You look – it's always like, oh, here's a racial issue.

00:43:45.420 Here's a this issue.

00:43:46.480 And nothing ever changes, it feels like.

00:43:52.560 Nothing ever changes.

00:43:55.240 And that's sometimes I think maybe even with that Vance interview, I'd be like, is anything going to change?

00:44:01.800 Because if not, just tell us it's not, you know?

00:44:04.960 So, you know, I can go back to using and doing adult kickball or whatever.

00:44:10.820 Just, you know.

00:44:13.480 But, anyway, those are just some thoughts.

00:44:16.300 And I don't have any perfect answer for you.

00:44:17.880 And if you're coming to me for some perfect answer, go to yourself.

00:44:21.960 What is your thought?

00:44:23.900 What do you feel?

00:44:24.880 What do you know?

00:44:25.520 You a magic guy?

00:44:28.080 You a wizard?

00:44:29.840 Then do wizard shit.

00:44:32.660 Another call that came in here.

00:44:34.280 Sorry to get hot.

00:44:35.460 Happy belated Father's Day, dude.

00:44:38.000 And El Dia de las Papa.

00:44:40.620 Hey, Theo.

00:44:41.580 I just had a question.

00:44:43.580 I need some advice.

00:44:44.880 I have a pretty right-leaning boyfriend.

00:44:49.380 And he's not super fond of gay people.

00:44:54.240 And my really close cousin, he's like a brother to me, he just came out as gay recently.

00:45:00.280 And he's been acting pretty f***ing gay.

00:45:03.120 So, I'm just trying to figure out how I can mend things between them.

00:45:07.960 He's, my gay cousin is coming into town.

00:45:10.560 I'm trying to set up some plans.

00:45:12.680 Well, look, I think, I wouldn't just take a gay around somebody that's anti-gay for, you know.

00:45:18.720 Like, you know what I'm saying?

00:45:20.740 Like, you don't fucking, you don't just take a pit bull into the bird shop.

00:45:25.720 So, that's one thing I wouldn't do right there.

00:45:33.400 I mean, you know, I think, I mean, you could just play, play, uh, dude, you could play that song.

00:45:40.540 I'm gonna take my horse to the old town road.

00:45:44.000 I'm gonna ride till I can't know.

00:45:47.220 Well, I got the horses in the back.

00:45:49.260 Like, you play that s***, bro, I bet they both gonna f***ing grin a little, boy.

00:45:53.860 Man, you got your baby.

00:45:56.000 And if you ain't ready to go full, not, little nod, you could f***ing start off with a little Cotton Eye Joe.

00:46:01.220 Get after with Cotton Eye Joe.

00:46:04.000 That's a f***ing little, you know, that's a f***ing little, you know.

00:46:07.140 Sometimes if they drop that on at the country club, you could see who might have a little bit of f***ing zest in their, uh, in their bandana, you know.

00:46:15.440 So, yeah, those are some options.

00:46:16.940 But don't be, you know what I'm saying?

00:46:18.040 You ain't f***ing Don King.

00:46:19.340 You ain't Dana White, baby girl.

00:46:20.780 Don't be out there f***ing, you know.

00:46:23.680 Don't be out there trying to start a, um, trans swimming event or something.

00:46:28.680 You know what I'm saying?

00:46:29.060 Don't get crazy.

00:46:30.460 You know, you ain't the NCAA.

00:46:32.180 Don't try to f***ing, um, pit different people against each other just to start s***, you know.

00:46:38.080 Don't get like that.

00:46:39.620 So, blessings to both of them.

00:46:41.960 And, uh, praise God right there.

00:46:45.020 Let's hear another question.

00:46:46.220 You know, we got a question here about, uh, gaying.

00:46:49.300 Hi, Theo.

00:46:50.100 This is Garrett Stewart.

00:46:52.080 Hey, Garrett.

00:46:53.260 Thank you for calling, brother.

00:46:54.400 Onward.

00:46:55.340 California.

00:46:55.740 And I was just calling to ask, I, uh, well, I'm secretly gay.

00:47:03.820 Oh, secretly gay, the fella said.

00:47:06.260 Let's hear more.

00:47:06.820 I, I haven't told a lot of people.

00:47:09.820 And I want to figure out how I can tell my mom.

00:47:13.400 And I thought I could get some advice on here.

00:47:17.300 I, I'm hope, I'm hoping she'll listen and maybe find out this way and it'll start out the conversation.

00:47:22.960 But, yeah, I mean, thank you for the, thank you for the space to talk about this.

00:47:27.960 And I hope to, hope to hear something about it on the next one.

00:47:31.580 Okay, brother.

00:47:32.460 Yeah.

00:47:32.660 Thank you for calling, dude.

00:47:34.300 Um, and congratulations on your, uh, gay ship or whatever it's called, gaydom or whatever.

00:47:40.240 Um, being gay.

00:47:42.980 Um, I mean, there's different ways you could go about it.

00:47:46.760 You could do something, you know, kind of fun.

00:47:48.780 You could do this like a knock, knock.

00:47:50.480 Who's there?

00:47:52.040 I'm gay.

00:47:53.100 You know?

00:47:53.800 That old trick or whatever.

00:47:55.780 Or, or, or you could get a deck of cards, right?

00:47:58.240 You could write, I'm a gay son on each one.

00:48:03.540 Put them like that.

00:48:05.460 Have her pick one out.

00:48:06.880 Say, pick one out and read it.

00:48:08.220 And bam, you don't even say nothing.

00:48:10.860 She says it.

00:48:12.780 And then you could be like, what the fuck do you mean?

00:48:15.700 You know, you could, uh, roll switch or whatever.

00:48:18.580 So that's it.

00:48:19.240 You know, that's reverse psychology, dude.

00:48:22.200 So that's something, that's crazy.

00:48:24.840 Um, but I think in reality, dude, what would I do here, dude?

00:48:29.740 I, I, I would, I would sit down with her.

00:48:32.300 I would sit down with your mom.

00:48:33.680 If you got to tell her that you, uh, you are, I would sit down with her.

00:48:38.220 I would say, mom, I have something really important to tell you and just ask.

00:48:44.560 I would say, Hey, do you know, do you love me no matter what?

00:48:47.060 Do you love me no matter what?

00:48:48.580 Um, and she will say yes.

00:48:51.600 Right.

00:48:52.300 If she doesn't say yes, I would not tell her.

00:48:54.420 But if she says yes, then I would keep moving forward.

00:48:58.760 Um, and then I would just tell her, say, look, I'm a, you know, I'm a gay man or whatever.

00:49:04.880 Um, or I'm put, I'm pretty much gay.

00:49:08.320 That's what I would say.

00:49:08.960 Don't ever fully commit to anything.

00:49:11.000 That's a trap for everything.

00:49:12.400 I'm pretty much gay.

00:49:13.680 Right.

00:49:14.980 That way.

00:49:15.640 What if they come out with a cream or something or a topical a few years from now or something

00:49:20.520 or, you know, cause you don't know that they don't, or a peptide or something that'd be

00:49:25.100 un-gay and people you want to have, you just want to have that little, you want to leave

00:49:29.480 that door ajar, baby.

00:49:30.800 You know what I'm saying?

00:49:31.540 You want to leave that, you want to leave that door ajar, poppy.

00:49:35.420 So that's what I would, then I would just tell her and I would just let her know if it's

00:49:41.000 scary to you to say that.

00:49:42.100 I would say, mom, I've been really scared about saying it to you.

00:49:44.820 Um, and then I would say, do you have any questions about it?

00:49:49.180 Because it's a, it's a surprise.

00:49:51.240 It might be a surprise to her.

00:49:52.880 Some moms are surprised about it.

00:49:55.340 What percentage of moms?

00:49:57.100 No day.

00:49:59.480 Have a gaze.

00:50:01.520 Oh, it says a lot of parents know cause they study their babies closely as they grow.

00:50:08.120 So hell yeah, bro.

00:50:11.340 Um, yeah.

00:50:12.160 So if they, they might have some ideas over the years.

00:50:15.960 If you invite another little dudes up in your crib or whatever, they might've had an idea

00:50:20.960 or whatever, or you got fucking, you got a bedazzled diaper or whatever.

00:50:25.520 They're going to have a little inkling.

00:50:26.680 Some parents, it doesn't say every parent.

00:50:29.480 So then that's what I would ask her because it's going to be new, new to her.

00:50:32.740 So she might have questions.

00:50:33.840 She might be scared too.

00:50:34.920 She might be, you know, she might be kind of rattled.

00:50:37.460 And then if you guys have a dad, I would say, well, how do we break this to dad?

00:50:41.140 What do you think we should do?

00:50:42.100 And then that way it kind of creates a little bit of an accomplice there.

00:50:44.560 Yeah.

00:50:45.340 Yeah.

00:50:45.700 I just think that's it.

00:50:46.520 That, that, that, that just as probably learning you were gay, it's probably a journey for them

00:50:50.960 to have this information.

00:50:53.440 So I'm not saying that just because that people need to adapt to you or anything, but I'm just

00:50:58.500 saying some people, it's a bit of a surprise.

00:51:02.020 You know, my buddy told me he was gay not long ago and I was like, damn, bro, he's gay,

00:51:07.640 you know, so it's a surprise sometimes to people.

00:51:12.160 You don't, you know, it's a little bit of an adjustment.

00:51:14.960 It's not bad or anything, or it doesn't mean anybody's bad, but thanks for asking about

00:51:19.980 that, man.

00:51:20.840 We've learned a lot about gays here over the years.

00:51:23.420 You know, we've learned a lot about drug induced homosexuality, altitude based gays,

00:51:31.680 weekend gays, footwear gays.

00:51:36.420 A lot of times you're looking at your buddy's shoes or whatever and you're like, damn, your

00:51:40.940 boots is gay as fuck, son.

00:51:43.940 You'd hit them to zest, you know?

00:51:46.460 So it's like, we've learned a lot about it, dude.

00:51:49.100 There's full time.

00:51:50.540 There's part time.

00:51:51.420 There's a Wednesday, Wednesday only gays, underwater gays.

00:51:55.820 Sometimes you feel something underwater.

00:51:57.520 You go down there, somebody's blowing you.

00:52:01.340 What is that?

00:52:03.160 So there's a lot there, man.

00:52:05.540 Anyway, sorry to ramble, but, but I bet, I bet, I don't know.

00:52:14.160 I bet that's a tough, tough experience for a lot of people, man.

00:52:17.940 I bet it's a tough experience.

00:52:19.360 So just thanks for calling and sharing about that.

00:52:21.480 Uh, let's get another call in here.

00:52:23.780 Yo, what up, Theo?

00:52:26.400 Um, this is your boy.

00:52:28.740 I'm going to keep this one anonymous for obvious reasons here in a bit, but, uh, just

00:52:35.680 want to give you a call and see if you had any suggestions for me.

00:52:39.360 Um, this morning I received a message from somebody that I had, uh, made love to about two years

00:52:51.420 ago.

00:52:51.740 And, uh, honestly, at one point she, this woman, she was my boss.

00:52:58.260 She's about 10 years older than me, I believe.

00:53:01.860 But, uh, okay.

00:53:04.380 You climbing the corporate vagina, brother.

00:53:06.680 All right.

00:53:07.100 Onward.

00:53:08.920 Got a message this morning that, uh, she says there's about a 75% chance that her one-year-old

00:53:17.740 daughter is, is my daughter.

00:53:20.860 And, uh, I, I asked her, well, what's this other 25% chance?

00:53:26.440 Is that just to soften the blow or what?

00:53:28.480 And she's like, yeah, there's a 10% chance that it was my ex.

00:53:36.080 Um, I don't even know if she had a boyfriend at the time when we did it, but maybe.

00:53:43.780 Um, but yeah, it was just to kind of soften the blow.

00:53:47.380 And so obviously I'm going to do a paternity test, but I'm 25 years old.

00:53:52.840 She lives in a different state, thousands of miles away from me.

00:53:58.140 Um, I asked her what she would expect if I am the father.

00:54:02.220 And she says, I'm not planning on changing anything.

00:54:06.280 Uh, it's, it's up to me.

00:54:08.600 Um, but she's going to be happy, healthy, and well taken care of, which I truly do believe.

00:54:14.440 Um, but I, I don't know.

00:54:17.900 I just don't know what to do.

00:54:18.960 Like, I feel like I, myself had both parents growing up and I'm fucked up as is.

00:54:25.480 And I can't imagine bringing a baby into this world and just leaving her out there high and

00:54:34.080 dry without a father.

00:54:35.140 Um, yeah, you, you're saying you can't imagine that, right?

00:54:40.600 So it sounds like from hearing you that that's not part of you.

00:54:44.940 That's not part of the plan that you want.

00:54:46.940 So I think starting from there, you, you, you'll, you'll, you'll be, you'll be able to

00:54:52.780 figure this out, man.

00:54:54.200 Um, I wish I had a more of a suggestion to you.

00:54:57.440 Actually, I'm going to open this up just to, to callers.

00:54:59.560 I know maybe that's impersonal cause it's your call, but I think this is important.

00:55:04.760 If somebody is in this situation, if you've been in this situation before, what, what did

00:55:09.220 you do?

00:55:09.740 Um, and if you made mistakes and you were in this situation, what were those mistakes?

00:55:16.220 Um, you know, I think this is an opportunity to share those and we can do a follow-up call

00:55:21.820 on the next solo episode where we'll, we'll package some of those answers up for you.

00:55:27.540 Um, but just hang in there right now, man, hang in there, take care of yourself.

00:55:34.440 Uh, and I would just try to also live in like, you know, get information.

00:55:38.760 So you're gathering, you know, you have real time information.

00:55:41.060 What's going on?

00:55:41.620 Is this really, you know, if you have a paternity test, is that really your child?

00:55:44.700 You know, figure those things out so that you can be at least operating from a place of

00:55:48.240 real information.

00:55:50.740 And then you're not just living in your head as much.

00:55:53.840 Um, but I, I, I, I can't tell you a ton because I don't have experience right there.

00:55:59.340 Um, but I have had experience thinking that I might have had someone who's pregnant and that

00:56:05.400 can be very tough.

00:56:06.560 It can be scary.

00:56:07.360 It can be very scary.

00:56:08.760 Even if that person's a great person, it still can be very scary.

00:56:13.180 And especially if you're going to be in a place that's far away.

00:56:15.840 Um, but everything is, if there's a problem, you can usually fix it, right?

00:56:22.960 If there's a situation, you can usually figure it out.

00:56:26.580 So, and even by calling, man, I think it shows kind of where, uh, where you're at.

00:56:30.560 You're already in a space where you want to start to figure this out, you know, for yourself

00:56:35.260 and possibly for your future child.

00:56:37.220 So, um, yeah.

00:56:39.540 Thank you for calling, man.

00:56:40.700 And yeah, we'll put some together.

00:56:41.920 It might be a few weeks before we get that episode out.

00:56:45.020 Uh, just let you know.

00:56:46.340 It could be a month to that next solo.

00:56:48.580 But, uh, yeah.

00:56:49.980 But love you, bruh.

00:56:51.260 And hang in there.

00:56:53.080 And, uh, thanks for calling.

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00:58:11.800 Let's take one more call right here.

00:58:14.940 What up, Theo?

00:58:15.560 My name is Alex.

00:58:17.060 I'm from Cleveland, Ohio.

00:58:19.100 Okay.

00:58:20.560 O-H.

00:58:22.200 I was just asking for some advice with a girl from Latin America.

00:58:26.280 I've never been with a Latina before.

00:58:28.660 I don't know if you have any experience with one, but I met this beautiful girl from Columbia a few nights ago at the club.

00:58:36.440 And it was this whole romantic experience.

00:58:39.460 You know, I bought her a drink.

00:58:41.320 I was making her laugh.

00:58:42.680 Before you know it, we're doing the tango.

00:58:45.620 Oh, yeah.

00:58:46.720 Dancing.

00:58:47.620 I was even speaking a little Spanish.

00:58:49.720 I don't know what got into me.

00:58:51.940 I had game I've never seen before out of myself.

00:58:55.460 But now it's a few days later.

00:58:57.580 I've been texting her.

00:58:59.220 I want to take her on a date.

00:59:00.440 But I feel this pressure to be the guy I was that night.

00:59:04.320 And honestly, now that the drink's out of my system, I don't think I got it anymore.

00:59:09.540 Yeah.

00:59:09.820 Yeah.

00:59:10.400 I would just – thanks for that call, man.

00:59:12.660 I would – here's what I would do.

00:59:14.000 I would just take her on another date.

00:59:16.060 And she already knows that that happened, right?

00:59:20.380 So I don't think you got to replicate that.

00:59:23.660 I think you take her to do something else to take that pressure off.

00:59:26.160 Go for a walk.

00:59:27.420 Go to a bingo hall and do a bingo night over there.

00:59:32.900 What else could you do?

00:59:34.060 Go for lunch, right?

00:59:35.420 Do a completely different environment.

00:59:39.280 Because I've done this a lot in my life, man.

00:59:41.760 It's like, man, if this date with this girl, if it's not perfect, I don't want to stand a chance with her.

00:59:46.080 I either do or don't stand a chance based on who I am, though.

00:59:49.720 I mean, it's easier for me to say that just because, like, I've learned that in my own life.

00:59:57.120 But that's really what it comes down to.

01:00:01.700 Just say, hey, the other night felt awesome, felt magical, right?

01:00:05.940 I'm nervous.

01:00:06.660 I can't replicate that.

01:00:08.460 Tell her that right out of the jump.

01:00:09.760 Now, you already have that magic night you made, and now you're a real guy.

01:00:16.140 You're right there.

01:00:16.960 You're in a real space.

01:00:18.800 Because otherwise, dude, we spend this time, dude.

01:00:21.400 I've spent so much time.

01:00:22.820 This has to be perfect.

01:00:24.380 I'm going to fucking get this.

01:00:25.740 I'm going to rent this van or whatever.

01:00:27.220 I'm going to do all this shit.

01:00:29.660 You know, we're going to get a couple oysters or whatever.

01:00:33.520 You know, all of this fucking shit, this van oyster bullshit.

01:00:37.100 And then I end up, I can't ever, nothing's, it's just like, I'm just, I've already lost.

01:00:43.780 Because I set the expectations too high.

01:00:46.640 So that's what I would do, just be real with her.

01:00:48.320 And if it doesn't work out, it's not because you didn't do things magical.

01:00:52.600 It's just because it wasn't going to work out.

01:00:55.840 That's it.

01:00:56.760 You know, but be creative.

01:00:58.580 I think that's appreciated.

01:00:59.740 But that's it, man.

01:01:01.880 Don't make it so it's impossible for you to even do.

01:01:06.580 You know, I do that sometimes.

01:01:08.380 Fuck, I make shit like, oh, dear God.

01:01:12.160 All right, let's get out of this.

01:01:13.460 We got to get done here soon.

01:01:17.960 Let's take one more call.

01:01:20.400 Hey, Theo.

01:01:20.980 Well, I just want to congratulate you on your success, man.

01:01:26.120 I'm a huge fan.

01:01:28.500 I just had a question, man.

01:01:30.060 Well, not a question.

01:01:31.260 Just I wanted some advice, man.

01:01:32.900 So I'm 28 years old.

01:01:36.140 I'm an Army veteran.

01:01:38.460 Thank you for your service, man.

01:01:40.880 A veteran recently got out like a year and a half ago.

01:01:44.380 And I went through a divorce, man.

01:01:47.980 And, you know, that's that.

01:01:50.960 The problem is that I have two kids, man.

01:01:55.360 Both of them have autism.

01:01:56.920 And mom decided to step away from their life, you know.

01:02:00.560 And it's just me raising them alone.

01:02:03.220 I just wondered if you can just give me any advice you got, brother.

01:02:06.380 Like, just how to deal with that, man.

01:02:09.960 You know, trying to do things alone.

01:02:11.480 And if you just had any advice, man.

01:02:14.760 But I just want to thank you for your podcast, man.

01:02:21.680 It's been extremely helpful.

01:02:24.480 And, yeah, thank you.

01:02:26.040 And hope you reach out back, man.

01:02:29.060 Praise, brother.

01:02:29.800 Thank you for the call, man.

01:02:32.000 Thanks for calling and just, man.

01:02:35.940 That's a journey you're on, dude.

01:02:37.580 Congratulations, bro.

01:02:38.680 Congratulations on, you know, showing up.

01:02:43.500 But, man, I want to say happy belated Father's Day to you.

01:02:47.160 And I applaud you, man.

01:02:49.300 I applaud you for showing up for those kids, for being able to have, let them have somebody they can look in the eyes.

01:02:56.760 And they know that that person is there for them.

01:03:01.100 That that person is a caretaker.

01:03:06.200 That that person thinks about them when they're not around.

01:03:10.320 You know, I think as children, we take that for granted even.

01:03:12.740 And we should, because it shouldn't even be a question.

01:03:17.340 But I commend you on that.

01:03:19.360 I know it's your job as a dad, right?

01:03:20.840 That's part of it.

01:03:21.640 But, man, maybe as men, we don't say that shit to each other enough.

01:03:25.560 You know, I don't know.

01:03:31.120 But, yeah, having dad there when he, you know, you try to learn to ride the bike or you want to do fishing or whatever.

01:03:38.260 Or if y'all like doing a video game or reading your kid a story at night.

01:03:42.780 You know?

01:03:43.500 Or even picking your kid up and helping him get to the second or third step.

01:03:47.860 You know?

01:03:48.280 Now, make your kid do one of the steps.

01:03:50.120 Some people put their kid all the way to the fourth step.

01:03:52.520 Put that bitch on the third step.

01:03:55.360 You know what I'm saying, bro?

01:03:56.220 Life ain't that easy.

01:03:58.860 You know?

01:03:59.260 Or set, if they crawl and set that bitch on the south side of a speed bump.

01:04:02.640 Let him work.

01:04:04.520 Let him work.

01:04:06.240 But I'll say this.

01:04:07.100 It makes me feel good just knowing that there's a man out there who's out there battling to do his best with his children.

01:04:14.240 And this is also kind of interesting.

01:04:18.440 We're making these Cat William nutcrackers.

01:04:24.460 And we're going to make a package pair just like me and Cat William had talked about about doing it.

01:04:30.340 And they're going to be one of him, one of me.

01:04:36.320 And you can just get him if you want.

01:04:37.940 That's fine.

01:04:38.400 I will not be upset.

01:04:39.180 But we're going to sell him.

01:04:41.700 And the proceeds, we're going to go somehow to help parents of children with autism.

01:04:45.780 So, we just started looking at the prototypes.

01:04:51.760 And I don't know what that looks like, right?

01:04:55.140 I don't know how.

01:04:56.020 I don't know if it'll be in what way or something.

01:04:59.200 But when that comes along, man, maybe I could have you help us out somehow.

01:05:03.640 Or I don't know.

01:05:05.560 Maybe we can think of something to do, you know, in that space.

01:05:10.480 But, yeah.

01:05:12.880 Now, we're hoping to have him plant for the end of the year.

01:05:15.440 I don't know how it all works.

01:05:16.860 But I do know that we've already gotten back, like, drawings.

01:05:20.240 We haven't gotten back an actual item yet.

01:05:23.500 But I do believe that we're making progress.

01:05:25.760 So, there you go.

01:05:28.140 That'll be something.

01:05:29.040 That's not advice, but that's my belated Father's Day gift to you is that if we can get this to fruition, then let me see if I can't find a way that we can or do, like, do a nice thing for you or something.

01:05:43.220 I don't know what it is yet.

01:05:45.440 Yeah.

01:05:45.620 But just know that people are thinking of you, man, you know.

01:05:48.680 Know that I think a lot of us go through the day and, you know, I think most people, this is the funny thing I've, most people I'll run into, they say, I want to be helpful to people.

01:06:02.480 You know?

01:06:04.900 Most people are, that's, they are thinking of that.

01:06:09.720 And I think that's what's in the heart of most people, man.

01:06:12.080 But happy, happy belated Father's Day, brother, and praise God.

01:06:18.200 You might also be Mexican, so you sounded a little bit Mexican.

01:06:21.000 I'm judgmental when it comes to voices and shit.

01:06:23.020 You know that, bro?

01:06:24.480 But, feliz papa.

01:06:27.540 Let me see what that means, actually.

01:06:30.140 Feliz papa.

01:06:32.800 Happy dad.

01:06:35.020 Happy father.

01:06:36.660 So, el día de feliz papa.

01:06:40.480 Happy dad's day yesterday.

01:06:42.540 Oh, yesterday y, yesterday dos.

01:06:46.660 I'll say that.

01:06:47.500 Two yesterdays.

01:06:49.060 Yesterday dos.

01:06:50.580 El día de feliz papa, ayer, dos.

01:06:58.900 Happy belated Father's Day to Rhett Powers.

01:07:00.640 That's the man that took me in when I was young and gave me a place to stay.

01:07:06.420 You know, in high school and stuff like that and has been a role model to me.

01:07:11.040 Charles Alder, he was a teacher of mine that I had when I was young.

01:07:14.100 He passed away a few years ago.

01:07:15.200 But, uh, he, like, was the only, he was, like, the first person ever even, like, talked to me.

01:07:23.760 Like, talked to me like, uh, I don't know.

01:07:27.480 You know, he really cared about me.

01:07:32.060 Um, there's been a lot of men in my life.

01:07:34.960 I could, you know, I'll forget.

01:07:35.860 I don't want to get into, like, a naming spree.

01:07:38.160 And a lot of men who have filled in the blanks.

01:07:42.720 You know, sometimes I go, you know, uh, if there's something going on, I'll call, uh, this friend's dad.

01:07:47.900 Or I'll call this person who's a little bit older than me.

01:07:50.980 Or sometimes I even get little pieces of fatherhood from friends.

01:07:53.640 Right?

01:07:53.900 Uh, yeah, I think sometimes it's, like, building, you build that relationship just out of other pieces of fathers that are still here.

01:08:03.500 Or moments that are still here.

01:08:06.000 Um, so, anyway.

01:08:07.420 Anyway, yeah, just learning to use my voice, dude, it's crazy.

01:08:13.240 This late in life.

01:08:15.360 And maybe that's me just having a cop out.

01:08:17.780 I have no idea.

01:08:18.680 But I'm going to keep, uh, I'm going to keep showing up.

01:08:22.400 Let's do that.

01:08:23.840 Um, praise God, man.

01:08:26.440 Be good to yourselves out there.

01:08:27.980 There's a new song right here.

01:08:29.920 And we might have to edit this out if they don't clear it for us.

01:08:32.780 But this is by, uh, Evan Bartels.

01:08:35.720 And he has a new album out that I want to support here.

01:08:41.140 And, uh, this is Evan Bartels.

01:08:44.060 The album, To Make You Cry, which, yeah, dang, it's the last thing I needed.

01:08:48.080 But it is what it is, baby.

01:08:50.560 But this is a voice.

01:08:51.740 This is somebody using their voice, right?

01:08:54.240 Uh, so, anyway.

01:08:55.860 I don't know.

01:08:56.800 But you guys be good to yourselves, man.

01:08:58.360 We got some exciting episodes coming up.

01:09:00.700 I'm grateful.

01:09:02.040 Uh, I want to get more grateful.

01:09:03.780 I want to be more grateful in my life.

01:09:05.540 If I'm going to ask God to help me with that this week, I'm going to ask myself to help

01:09:08.240 me with that.

01:09:09.920 Um, sometimes I try to put it all on God's shoulders and I don't do shit, you know?

01:09:15.120 So I'm going to try to pull up for God.

01:09:17.080 Uh, praise God, baby.

01:09:18.200 Here we go.

01:09:19.160 You guys be good to yourselves, man.

01:09:20.440 You deserve it.

01:09:21.300 Happy belated Father's Day, gang.

01:09:23.140 This is called Death of a Good Man.

01:09:32.680 After two years of leaving me alone

01:09:36.620 My wife passed back in December

01:09:41.720 Since then I've been here on my own

01:09:46.800 He spoke like a Southern Baptist preacher

01:09:55.020 Sang like a Pentecostal choir

01:10:00.300 Said he always done right by that woman

01:10:05.600 And ain't no man could call him a liar

01:10:10.480 Some nights when his spirit got heavy

01:10:16.160 He'd dream of that lost promised land

01:10:21.600 Said it looked like back home in Virginia

01:10:26.600 But he'll never see them all his again

01:10:32.540 He said I blame it on the damn tobacco

01:10:39.720 And I blame it all on the booze

01:10:45.440 And I blame it on the fella

01:10:48.760 Sitting up in heaven

01:10:51.540 Giving me the right to choose

01:10:55.680 He said I reckon I'll die on a Tuesday

01:11:03.600 And I hope the sun's gonna shine

01:11:08.940 And I can't take you with me

01:11:12.680 So I drink it right here

01:11:15.440 My whiskey, my beer, and my wine

01:11:19.560 And he spoke like a Southern Baptist preacher

01:11:27.220 Sang like a Pentecostal choir

01:11:32.520 Said he always done right by his mama

01:11:37.680 And ain't no man could call him a liar

01:11:43.400 But some nights when his spirit got heavy

01:11:48.280 He'd dream of that lost promised land

01:11:53.560 Looked like back home in Virginia

01:11:58.500 He said I'll never see them all his again

01:12:04.320 And I'd sit at the bar while he's talking

01:12:09.360 Just like me and him was old friends

01:12:15.040 And promised I'd always remember

01:12:19.780 The life of a good man

01:12:24.900 Now on the east side of Nashville

01:12:32.420 I sit

01:12:33.520 And I get stoned

01:12:37.620 You never find a nut

01:12:39.420 And democracies

01:12:45.020 I'm notgon

01:12:46.920 I don't know

01:12:49.540 And I didn't miss

01:12:51.140 I'm not gon'

01:12:51.300 I'm not gon'

01:12:52.180 You never tell

01:12:53.140 Who else

01:12:54.400 You never tell

This Past Weekend with Theo Von - June 18, 2025

#590 - Fathers and Voices

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