00:26:06.600I get to spend, we go to a summer camp together every year with him and his family, and it's fucking hilarious.
00:26:13.260I would say volume control and going from soft to aggressive, if that's the way you want to call it, or louder, is important to find in a diaphragm.
00:26:30.280If you get those tones and you can control that, it don't have to sound perfect.
00:26:35.860But my opinion on turkey calling, rhythm is more important than specifically the sound of it.
00:28:23.740I know every now and then, every now and then in the distance of the animals, you hear Steve's wife be like, it better just be you in there.
00:28:32.380But that's what, it's a special machine and it's all, and then every now and then you can go to different regions of the world and hear them.
00:29:17.280So when you're out in your yard and you hear birds off in the distance, anywhere, and you open it up, it just listens and tells you what birds, it's a phenomenal app.
00:29:32.660The reason I bring that up is what is harmful to people's self-esteem is when you're turkey hunting and you're making, you're mimicking the noises.
00:29:46.900So we'll open up Merlin and be like, is it picking you up or not, bro?
00:29:55.960Is it, is it throwing, is it saying there's a turkey over there or is it not saying there's a turkey over there?
01:12:34.340But when they were restoring the wild turkey from nearly being wiped off the continent, okay, the main player that was involved in that nationally is an organization that happens to have their annual convention in Nashville called the National Wild Turkey Federation.
01:12:52.720The National Wild Turkey Federation was kind of a through line of the efforts to restore turkeys to North America, to recover the wild turkey, to put the wild turkey back on the ground and all the places where it had been wiped out.
01:13:07.800But the National Wild Turkey Federation is a hunting organization, okay?
01:13:14.940So if you went and looked and you said, here's these guys that put enormous amounts of expertise, scientific expertise, enormous amounts of funding, enormous amounts of physical effort into restoring the wild turkey to where they exceed historic levels, is it fair to go like, you just did that so you could hunt turkeys?
01:13:35.660They'd be like, guilty as charged, right?
01:13:48.400It's not, but it's not always even that way because, for instance, if you look at, there's an organization called the Wild Sheep Foundation.
01:13:55.820It's an American-based conservation organization that works to restore, recover, protect wild sheep species, okay?
01:14:04.980Desert bighorns, Rocky Mountain bighorns, doll sheep, stone sheep, okay?
01:16:36.320You know, there's guys that are, there's people that want to deny that reality.
01:16:40.940But, like I said, it's, like, it's settled science.
01:16:43.100You can't debate the nuts and bolts of it.
01:16:45.380So, this plays out in other ways that draw a lot of attention.
01:16:49.260Like, something like, let's talk about Tanzania for a minute.
01:16:53.500Totally different system than what we have in America.
01:16:55.440But in Tanzania, the most effective way that they're able to, the most effective way that they're able to protect large tracts of wilderness habitat is drawing revenue from them by allowing hunting to occur on those places.
01:17:15.100It's either that or slash and burn agriculture.
01:17:17.800So, it's, like, you're able to go into an area and by having people, like, Westerners, Europeans, Americans, whatever, come there to have an experience of going there and hunting and paying a big amount of money to hunt there, warrants them being able to set aside large chunks of ground, the government, and monetize it, and monitor it, and then pay for anti-poaching efforts and other things that protect it.
01:17:42.480Like, you might look at it and hate it.
01:17:44.780You might look at it and be, like, I don't think that humans have a right to harm animals.
01:17:48.680And, like, I'm not going to argue that perspective.
01:17:50.900So, you might look at it and be, like, it sucks that that has to be true.
01:18:27.700There's an idea that, like, in anthropology there's a debate about at what point in time did you have behaviorally and anatomically modern humans.
01:18:37.880This is not, we're getting way outside of biblical understanding, but we're talking about, like, from the non-biblical science world.
01:18:47.140Okay, so stepping outside of, like, the biblical confines and going into, like, purely scientific world.
01:18:55.280Some people think that you could have grabbed a dude 75,000 years ago, put him in, grabbed him at birth, and he could learn to fly an airplane.
01:19:06.080He could go to college, do well, blend in.
01:19:09.540You'd see him going down the street and wouldn't think anything of it.
01:19:37.340There's this other idea that the great, a scientific understanding that when we had, when humans had this kind of renaissance, like,
01:19:48.540like, um, we seem to have suddenly kind of figured a bunch of shit out.
01:19:53.980And some people correlate that to us becoming predominantly, uh, to eating huge amounts of animal flesh.
01:20:01.480It's so efficient and so full of energy.
01:20:03.720That was our intellectual renaissance.
01:20:05.560Like, that, that's when humans became bright and developed, like, religion and organizational structure and language and all that is when we discovered meat eating.
01:20:13.660Right, because we had enough energy not only to satiate our bodies, but then also for the rest of us to maybe flourish some because we finally had, uh, a new source that was really, uh, replenishing us constantly.
01:20:24.800Yeah, we were broken, we were broken from, we were broken from a cycle of needing to eat low grade, low, low, low, low grade, low calorie food all the time.
01:20:33.260Right, so then you're constantly just sitting there snacking, whereas otherwise you can have a nice meal, then you can sit back and kick it and think of something creative.
01:20:40.160Like, deer is on this really strict schedule of, like, eating a bunch of low grade food, sitting, ruminating, eating, you know, so.
01:20:47.680So there's this idea, yeah, that's the idea that, like, and, and of course I like it because it reinforces, like, that, that's what I like to eat, deer meat and stuff.
01:20:55.280So when I hear that, I'm like, fuck yeah, bro, that's right.