#617 - Aziz Ansari
Episode Stats
Length
1 hour and 44 minutes
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211.3839
Summary
In this episode, we are joined by stand-up comedian and filmmaker Aziz Ansari to talk about his life growing up in the south of the US. Aziz talks about how he got his start in the entertainment industry and how he became an actor and filmmaker.
Transcript
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you guys today's guest is a stand-up comedian he's an actor and a filmmaker um
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he just directed his first film called good fortune uh which we're going to talk about
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and i'm looking forward to getting to meet him really we never even known each other
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so we're going to do that now today's guest is mr aziz ansari
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what do you drink man what's your do you have a beverage of choice kind of
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just espresso and water really i mean not not together but i drink espresso a lot
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and then um and then water and then if i'm drinking like you know wine or whatever a martini or whatever
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check check you good okay yeah okay do indian people react well to martinis are your is your family indian by
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nature yeah by nature they are indian yeah okay um yeah my family's from india i was born in south
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carolina yeah yeah wait are we going now or no yeah we can be yeah whatever okay wait so where are
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you from you're from louisiana i'm from louisiana yeah okay because you know whenever i hear someone
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else from with a southern accent it's almost like when i see someone that's indian i'm a little like
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oh i need to but i we've never really met i don't think properly i've i was around you were at
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chris rock's birthday party i saw you there but you know that was a crazy thing i didn't really get
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to say hi but do you have that when you when you hear someone with a southern accent because to me
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there's so few people i don't have one but i'm from south carolina i lost my accent it comes out when
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i start talking to other people that have it even the guy that picked me up at the airport he was from
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atlanta and i and i started and i like it started seeping in yeah but yours has stayed strong
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mine is gone but uh i remember when i met danny mcbride because you there's so few people that
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have southern accents that are in our kind of acting hollywood it's kind of true huh strange i think
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right before our generation it was more prevalent before well there was the whole like uh blue collar
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right those guys those guys they had their run that was that was their they all had southern
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accents yeah larry the cable guy definitely southern accent yeah he's going back on tour i just saw
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um yeah i remember when i was a kid you know i grew up in a small town in south carolina called
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bennett'sville there's like 8 000 people there no one ever toured there or anything and i remember
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some kids went and saw jeff foxworthy and he came to florence south carolina which is like 45 minutes
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like we saw jeff foxworthy that was the first time i'd ever heard of someone going to a live
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comedy show oh wow by the way i'm shivering a little bit because so i i you know i came from
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i was in chicago and i had to get up at like five in the morning and you had a cold plunge and your
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producer was like if you want to jump in the cold plunge and i was like are you are you kidding are you
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serious because i'm a little tired and i didn't really sleep yesterday and i did it but like i'm a little
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cold a little bit it'll rattle you yeah no i'm glad you got in dude yeah i got in i was in there
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earlier this morning i get in now because i don't want to so i'm like let me go do something i don't
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want to do to start my day and i think it adjusts my attitude which i need a lot um and dude i just
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went to i just went to university of south carolina we had we met a chauffeur over there his girlfriend
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had thrown fettuccine like a hot thing of boiling fettuccine on him and yeah yeah and he had to be
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like and like dude it's crazy that that story took a dark turn really fast that's the last thing i
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expected to happen to this guy in the story is is a is boiling fettuccine thrown on him bro a hundred
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percent and but he was wait with the water not yeah okay because because if it was just a fettuccine
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that that's not too bad yeah i was water in the mix too though that that's that's that's a crime
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yeah oh it was a crime and his yeah his neck was like dripping off of him and stuff it was he went
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through a lot but anyway met him he's a chauffeur over there uh stan he's out of the he's out of the
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bronx originally but we just had him come in he was just like kind of a unique character so um
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but hey trev will you cut the ac off just in case i don't want to fucking lose aziz am i looking
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crazy no you seem fine okay i didn't know if i was just sitting there but no i know what you mean
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sometimes if you get that in and that ac's on it's kind of a lot um dude is it is this true uh
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and thanks so much for coming in today man oh man i i really appreciate it and you know i i'm not
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really super familiar with a lot of podcasts and i haven't done a big press tour in like a long time
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because you know the last time i had something come out was during covid so that was weird you didn't
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really do the normal stuff and then um i've been working on these films for a bit and and
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um so before i was like they were like oh do all these podcasts i was like well i'm gonna listen
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to episodes and i and i listened to a couple of years i listened to the bernie sanders one oh yeah
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which i really liked and and to me really connected with my film because the stuff you guys were talking
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about um you're talking about something that i hadn't heard where the the number one cause of
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bankruptcy is is medical bills yeah and in in my character in the film you're never really given a
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clear explanation of what happened to this guy the guy's you know he's lost his job he's sleeping
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in his car but oh in good fortune you mean yeah yeah but but it made me think of that what your
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conversation with bernie sanders and i was like oh man this is really um on the in the same kind of
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realm and then um and i loved your episode with arnold schwarzenegger i'm always fascinated by arnold
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really yeah because i think he's so i think he's so smart and and um yeah i don't know why i i i think
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you realize like the more you're in this business especially the in the kind of movie acting world to
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like be an actor that's kind of had a few hits like a lot of things have to come together and it's not
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an accident you know what i mean when these guys have this run of hits like they've got to be really
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sharp yeah yeah it was pretty fascinating i guess we went to his office and there's like the
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his like conan thing is in there and like the sword he's like wait did you meet that little donkey he
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has i don't know if the donkey was there there was some hair that's in his house this was in his office
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oh no this was his office yeah there was some hair on the floor but i don't know what it was from i
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don't think um oh my god yeah there's a donkey oh because i think he's very dutch like that or
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something oh he's very oh my god yeah those are mini donkeys they look mixed too i met a small
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donkey in nashville once oh first off i love nashville i i i go to zany's a lot when i'm like
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working on sets yeah oh i think i remember that's what the last thing i remember i remember hearing
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you came to zany's and did like six or seven nights or something over there yeah and one time
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one of my favorite shows the power went out and i had to do the show like the power went out and we're
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like what do we do and the staff there was amazing they like immediately brought candles out and i was
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like yelling my set and then some guy like brought like a speaker and a microphone it was incredible
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oh dude i think didn't they i think it was an article or something about that i even remember i
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remember seeing a picture about that or at least just hearing about it like in local lore you know
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um one thing about nashville is dude it's a very small city like it's small it's like
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people it's you something happens you hear about it it's not like it just feels like a huge town like
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how long you lived here a really big town i lived here for i think almost four years
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where were you before the pandemic i was in la oh okay yeah and i moved directly from there because
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during the pandemic i remember seeing like kid rocks bar you know and people are having a blast there
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and meanwhile like my landlord is like making us wear hazmat suits to get our fucking mail and
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chickens everybody's all paranoid and shit out there and i was like fuck this shit um i gotta fucking go
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you know i i've always loved nashville i i did a series for netflix uh and we filmed an episode
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here and i always come here for stand-up i did the ryman i'd never done the ryman i'd always done
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some other theater i did the ryman on this tour that i uh a few months ago and that's that's one of
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the best best places i've ever performed yeah yeah there's that thing yeah that was yes that
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isn't that so crazy yeah a power outage force comedian has already finished his set in the dark
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monday night dude that was cool that was like one of those cool cool moments that was fun but when
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i was here for that trip to get back to the donkeys my wife uh she's danish and she loves
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she loves donkeys and there was some fair here and they had miniature donkeys oh beautiful and we
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sought them out and we we said what's up to him one of them his name was uh his name was roger and
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he was born october october 4th so roger 10-4 so we met roger and there was another little donkey
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named lily but i she was she was a little big i don't know if she was a micro donkey roger was
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straight up micro lily was a little big i don't know if she was micro at that size i don't judge
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their weight to be honest with them you know i'm saying because the bodies there's already a lot going
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on you know it's like yeah i think i think that i mean look i think they're beautiful i remember
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i met the world's smallest horse one time when when was that and where and this is his name was
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tom thumb and i met him in alameda i believe and how did that how did that intro come about well
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people people like you got to go meet him and shit and i remember i'd been in a bar alameda is where
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california california okay so you were doing a show in alameda and then like you gotta you gotta meet
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the smallest horse no we'd been out there for a i was just i think i'd heard about it i think i'd been
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in conversations about like smaller animals animalia generally uh the world's whoa the one
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i met was tom thumb and if you can also look up separately um on perplexity here if you can just
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look up uh theovan tom thumb i did a post on it it was pretty fascinating what's perplexity
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perplexity is like a different ai it does for me i like it because it's uh it can help me like edit
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and pull clips out of things like you can put something in it and be like like what clips do you
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like in this what do you suggest that sort of thing oh well so it's kind of like it's like a
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it's like an ai you know it's far beyond my what i don't know any of this stuff dude what are you
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talking about do people how do your parents feel about that that i don't know uh perplexity that
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you don't know about the ais i mean i know what it is i i i uh i don't really use that stuff much
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i don't really use internet or phone or anything very much i try to stay off yes oh here we go right
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here let's take a video let's let's i am into this superhero right there how long he gonna be
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here today for he'll be here all day how small is he
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you don't know what people are doing dude but yeah so just to let you know i guess we have a
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lot of symbiosis there in our love for the small horses small uh what are horses and donkeys what's
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that ask the ai what is that called what are that that kind of animal horses donkeys the four-legged
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kind of they're they're similar there must be some group yeah what is that called the equus yeah
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the equus the equine the equines but dude when you think that god took all the beauty of a huge horse
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and put it into like a baby snicker of a horse a little horse yeah there's not is there any other
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animals that have minis like because there's many horses there's many donkeys what is it there's many
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cows there are oh wow oh god that'd be a dark moment you go to a steakhouse they're like just
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so you know these are all mini cows yeah oh it's still that's too dark i'd have a little
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you know what i'm saying you probably could only have a little that's true dude there's not like a
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40 ounce bitty cow steak that's not that's not happening it's like it's like he's a one ounce it's
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like it's like when you go to a sushi restaurant they have that one little piece of wagyu
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this is this is from a mini cow oh my god they're all furry maybe oh those maybe i'm gonna finish
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this show and get addicted to the internet because this is this is pretty fun i never knew about mini
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cows i didn't know i would have just been wondering about equines equus well look dude i think you
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could get your wife one of these let me see miniature horses rarely exceed 34 inches in height
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miniature donkeys also max out at around 34 inches there's many micro pigs oh wait this is a whole
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list of everything there's many of there's many horses donkeys pygmy goats they don't call them
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micro goats they prefer to be referred to as pygmy goats yeah mini sheeps micro pigs micro pigs i've
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heard of imagine a mini sheep though you make a very small sweater yeah you're just sitting there
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oh dude we gotta get some of these animals but dude when i was a kid they only had big dogs and
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then the dogs started getting littler a lot of this i think is crossbreeding and inbreeding you
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know i grew up in a kind of an not an inbreeding district but i grew up in like certainly like the
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stray animal belt and the inbreeding belt kind of like they you can they run across some of the same
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plains in america okay and we would see a lot of you know people start getting smaller over time in the
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area because you and that's when you knew like okay people need to start walking farther or driving
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farther for sex you know well you just knew the inbreeding was heating up you know you know the
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kettle the kettle was getting a little warm you know um when somebody'd have a baby and they could
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just put it on like a key ring or whatever it was like that thing's too small you know um good to see
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you man because we've never really gotten to talking it's good to laugh with somebody um i and you know i
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i love meeting comedians that i haven't met before i i uh i i was thinking this the other day like when
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i was on tour i was you know i bring some of the same guys out with me and who do you take with you
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sorry to interject um wilson vince uh he's in the movie isn't he will's in the movie and uh ricky
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velez they they uh they came out with me a lot um early this year and then uh our tour manager beth who
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i love will especially have you ever met will do you know will at all i don't know him but i
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recognized him immediately i this dude i know him but i don't know him well the hardest i laugh in my
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life is after shows going to dinner with will because he's just the most ridiculous guy and he
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just he's so funny like just this stuff like this one of my favorite will anecdotes one time i told him
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i said uh i wanted to send him a a playlist of some music and he's like i don't use spotify
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and i was like what do you use he goes i use amazon music oh type shit and i was like why do you use
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amazon music he's like because i like to download the mp3s and burn them on the cds i was like this
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this is this is such a unique dude yeah i mean it sounds illegal but it also sounds like i respect it
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you know um but i but i'll say i love comedians comedians are my favorite people well i think in the
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end it's like you have to realize how rare it is that people do it and that uh that we do all have
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something in common yeah and it used to feel like a lot again it's like the southern accent it's like
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when i see another indian person there's something that pulls me towards them yeah it makes me
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comfortable yeah i think well some of that's just tribe you know there's a little bit of like
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whatever's built into us um what a specific tribe to you know because most people's you know most
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people's worst fear is public speaking and it's what we do for a living so there's something
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deep inside that's a bond with all of us has to be oh we're like satan's mini donkeys mini donkeys
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of self-esteem yeah self-esteem that's why we need so much approval with laughter it's like if you pet
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me micro self-esteem people yeah if you pet me enough i'll grow into a regular size horse you know
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yeah yeah we get enough laughs we play enough theaters or if we graduate to arenas then we become
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full-sized people this is enough that's hilarious it's almost like our pinocchio story yeah um
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yeah dude i stayed up watching the movie last night good fortune that's your it's a new movie yeah um
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dude the amount of turns that were that started to happen i'm about like i guess maybe 45 minutes in
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the amount of turns that started to happen in the plot really were making it heat up oh well thank
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you it's cool dude and keanu reeves he's like this like he almost reminds me of like a surfer dude
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that won best in show at westminster type of vibe you know what i'm saying yeah there's a little bit
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of uh california kind of um but he's very sweet like a like a little pup and his posture is so good
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it seems like he would win best in show like he seems like he has very good i never noticed his
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posture but you didn't no but you know i remember when we first started screening the movie
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as soon as he came up on screen i could tell there was something like whoa this dude's a movie star
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and it's not just that he's handsome there's something this other you know there's this other
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thing that he has and and he's so funny in the movie i mean he he just he just kills and and by the
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end of the movie when i've watched it with crowds like he's just doing the smallest thing and just
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getting huge laughs and um yeah but um you directed and wrote and you're in it right you wrote it too
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i wrote it dude that's awesome bro produced acted everything too much so you have control issues you
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think yeah a little bit but but in a positive way as well you know seth rogan's in the movie and he
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does his show the studio and we've talked about that about you know kind of doing everything because
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he does everything on that and there's something that's kind of streamlined about it you know to like
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oh i had this idea this is how i'm gonna write it and i and you kind of have for me whenever i'm
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writing something i kind of have a you know an idea in my head of how i want it to sound and look and
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everything and directing is pretty much just conveying that to a group of people to execute it yeah so if
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all if it's all coming from one person and if you're one of the people acting it does make things
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easier in a sense yeah man that does make a lot of sense dude yeah and and you know you have other
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people like seth and keanu who you know they have iconic voices so when i'm writing i have their voice
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in the head and then when they're there they do it like even funnier than you think they were going to
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do it when you had in your head they add something or improvise and and um you know the goal is really
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you have like the version in your head and then you have this whole crew and cast and and you kind
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of convey your vision and then they take that and then they give you something else that's
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something from them and it becomes better than you thought how long would you guys to shoot for
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um well it was a little weird because we shot like one or two days and then the writer's strike
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happened we have to stop for a few months yeah and then we came back and um this sounds crazy when
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i'm saying it out loud so we came back after the writer's strike which was like i don't know seven
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months or something it was a while and were people pregnant and stuff like was it different
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no one got pregnant but okay no everyone was still the same but um oh thank god we we shot for
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like a couple days and then keanu broke his knee he broke his kneecap like on our like second or third
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day back what was he doing it i mean it sounds insane as i'm saying it out loud because this guy's done
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all the matrix movies all the john wick movies never got hurt yeah we filmed a scene in a cold
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plunge and he was going back to his dressing room he was all wrapped up in a robe and everything and
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he like tripped on a rug and fell on his knee and broke his kneecap oh yeah they got pictures of him
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in the crutches here on on perplexity uh no he broke his freaking kneecap and were you guys right there
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could you hear it no no i it was in his in his dressing room so i i just heard like someone on
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the on the walk he's like oh i'm keanu's down oh so he went through it alone yeah he fell down and
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then they were like he's hurt and then he came down he was ready to film right away his knee was like
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bleeding right crazy and we're like hey man maybe you should go to a doctor and he's like no no let's
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shoot let he he loves he loves shooting he just wants to shoot but anyway we could film most of
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his stuff he had like a knee brace that we like edited out with vfx he didn't get that stupid one
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with the wheels on no he didn't have the wheel that was kind of mean to call it stupid man that's
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that people are that's something people gotta use but dude i saw some drunk lady and her husband they
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were going down broadway in nashville and uh i know the thing you're talking about it's like a kind
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of like a scoot this thing yeah it's like a mini scooter and then my friend broke his achilles
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tory's achilles heel and he had to use that for a while yeah it's like the x games of being
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crippled or whatever yeah it's it's a little weird yeah it seems a little silly yeah so he didn't have
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one of those he just had a big knee brace but we had these scenes where he had like most of the stuff
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we could kind of figure it out but there was a couple of scenes where we needed him to dance
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there's a whole thing where he starts dancing cumbia and we're like keanu we can't shoot the cumbia
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stuff so we came back after his leg healed and shot a few more days but it was like a 30-day shoot
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shoot oh wow it's fast that's a lot of work yeah that's not too much but it's not too little
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yeah yeah we just i just david spade and i made a movie and i can't talk about it anymore on here
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because we've talked about it a lot but how many days 23 days that's pretty tight it was i mean i
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don't know the script or anything but 23 it's you know that's a lot of work but over 30 yeah we
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probably had a few days off in between you know but it was a lot it was like the fires that happens we
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had to move oh god one scene that just happens to be firing and you're like okay well this has to be part
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of it because you've already set up for the day and whatever this space is going to be
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so like one day it's crazy winds the winds were like 45 miles an hour i remember that i was in
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la during right right during the fires yeah before there was a crazy winds i was like what's happening
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okay so we're like talking about kites we wrote that into the script like yeah we should get some
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kites you wrote in afterwards yeah just to add like yeah maybe we'll get some kites after you know
00:23:26.000
we like threw in a line it's like just trying to make things make sense you know because you just have
00:23:29.760
you're already set up everybody's already driven there the people are there there's a lady standing
00:23:34.720
there with makeup you know what i'm saying like people have washed their bodies and gotten in
00:23:39.200
their vehicles and gotten over there people have put on deodorant people have put on clean
00:23:43.600
panties and men's panties or whatever they're called under men's underwear they put on their
00:23:48.800
undergarments and they showed up and it's a lot of people yeah and it's crazy because you know
00:23:52.720
you write these random things and then all these people get to work to do it and it's like some
00:24:00.160
silly joke about a pillowcase or whatever like oh which pillowcase do you want to use yeah sometimes
00:24:05.440
it's something as dumb as that like all these people will drive to one place just so somebody
00:24:09.280
can be like ricky's a bitch you're like okay that's lunch you're like that fucking took four hours
00:24:16.960
god and ricky's not even a bitch anymore he's had a surgery by the end of the day you know what i'm
00:24:20.480
saying so everything's changed it blows my mind that you know because it's like stand up and you
00:24:25.920
you do these things and you're just on a mic and there's people they're listening but when you write
00:24:29.520
a joke for a movie there's all these trucks everybody's showed up it's it's it really makes
00:24:35.520
you pause for a second i don't know if you had this thing where you're like oh man this is a lot of hope
00:24:41.120
this is worth it for these people oh yeah i remember the first day we got to do to set i was like holy
00:24:48.160
shit i thought this had just been a bunch of emails you know and it was like all the emails
00:24:53.040
that come together in real life like there was trailers there was some guy got electrocuted like
00:24:58.800
yeah but it was like everything you know you were like oh people are acting there's some guy
00:25:04.400
practicing his things they're like firing an extra like all the shit was going on you know like
00:25:10.560
some guys just like you know i had bought the wrong peanut just all the shits happening you know
00:25:15.760
there's no coffee there was always no coffee when i got over there it's fine but it was just
00:25:20.560
like it's fascinating to see it happen and it's one of those things that has to like it's so expensive
00:25:26.880
to do that you have to get it done on that day it's like whatever elements come if somebody breaks their
00:25:32.320
leg if somebody goes missing you have to for an hour you have to like shoot around just all these
00:25:36.880
little things that kind of go on you know i i was telling someone people always ask me like what's
00:25:40.560
the difference between doing stand-up and doing a film to me doing stand-up it's like
00:25:46.400
you're you're running around a track and you go hey i'm ready to go and then you you go to all these
00:25:51.600
cities and you run around the track and and you're done and a movie is like you have to go to these
00:25:58.320
people and go hey i want to climb this mountain can you give me money to climb this mountain and they're
00:26:03.120
like let me see your plan which is like your script and they're like hmm well we can give you this
00:26:07.040
much oh that's not really enough supplies and then like well can brad pitt climb the mine with
00:26:12.080
the mountain with you can you can you get you know these other famous can you know and yeah and then
00:26:17.600
if you're lucky enough to even get to start climbing the mountain then people just start
00:26:21.280
throwing boulders like hey here's the writer's strike hey there's the fires in la oh wait keanu's
00:26:27.360
broke his kneecap and it is a positive blood test you're like oh that's rough it's it's all just
00:26:34.560
you're just trying to avoid all these different disasters and if you're lucky you you you make it
00:26:41.360
to the top but it's it's so much harder to either so much more to to that's out of your control
00:26:46.880
yeah stand-up is so in your control yeah there's something so pure and beautiful about stand i like
00:26:52.320
doing both but there is something so pure and beautiful about stand-up where it's just
00:26:58.000
literally a person talking in the microphone it's kind of such a pure and direct art form
00:27:04.560
and filmmaking there's so many other things that are out of your control and it's a lot more
00:27:08.320
complex but it's rewarding in its own way i mean i i think about how you know i'll i'm working on
00:27:15.840
other scripts now and i'll have some joke and it'll it'll be like whoa this will be maybe years from
00:27:21.360
now before i'll see this joke play in a theater and hear a crowd of people laugh and then a stand-up
00:27:27.760
joke you know you or i could think of something tonight and go to a comedy club and try it and hear it get
00:27:32.320
a laugh and that's so satisfying but there's also something crazy about like i remember i started
00:27:37.440
writing good fortune like probably in the pandemic i started writing it on and off and there's jokes
00:27:43.280
i wrote in and then years later it's like i'm in a theater in burbank and keanu reeves is saying the
00:27:48.480
joke and you know a crowd full of people goes crazy and they're both amazing but in different ways yeah
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00:30:47.200
never get to make but you think it would be cool like it's so ridiculous have there ever been something
00:30:53.920
like that that well i mean right now it's so hard to get any movie made they all feel like oh man i hope
00:30:59.440
i can make this you know i've got two movies that i uh two other scripts that i've written i had this movie
00:31:04.400
with bill murray that i was doing that got shut down i want to finish that why what happened oh
00:31:10.640
well uh bill murray uh was part of this movie we did called being mortal being more was a book by this
00:31:18.240
gentleman named atul gawande it's all about like end of life issues it's about stuff you know uh
00:31:26.800
that people my age are dealing with with their parents you know some maybe not all people might
00:31:30.560
be older but you know they're getting sick you got to put them in retirement homes and you got to
00:31:34.880
figure all this this stuff out very you know very interesting book and it's about very highly
00:31:41.680
recommend this have you met atul gawande yeah yeah i had to talk to atul to get rights to the book and
00:31:46.640
and when i decided to turn into script he um he helped me and and um yeah there he is very cool very
00:31:54.000
smart guy and um uh so i thought okay this is like the the book is not a fiction book it's non-fiction
00:32:07.120
but i was like oh man if you turn this into a story there's things that are funny even though
00:32:12.080
it's dark you know like there's things that are funny about like you know you have to go like take
00:32:17.520
your parents to like all your mom or dad you have to take them to all these different retirement homes
00:32:21.920
and like they you know all these people in his book they always be like i want to be in here
00:32:25.360
everybody in here is old it's like that's people's perspective it's kind of funny and uh and just like
00:32:31.600
how out of depth you are talking to these doctors doctors talk to you like you know you know these
00:32:36.080
super complicated things they're like anyway so what do you want to do if you do this you know he might
00:32:40.240
be paralyzed but if you do this you know you're like wait what yeah but if you do this he might be able
00:32:44.240
to do a backflip and you're like well that's a that's a mixed bag it's it's so you're you're just
00:32:50.560
immediately out of your depth but anyway i read the story and i read the book and and you you
00:32:56.240
notice these patterns like the parents are like no i'm fine i'm fine and then they like drive their
00:33:00.160
car through the house or something and then you're like we got to take you to home man yeah you know
00:33:03.680
that kind of thing but that's really how it happens though for people it's really how it happens
00:33:07.520
and i was like well if you did a story about this and the guy was bill murray that could be really
00:33:12.720
funny and really poignant because he you know i think about him in like lost in translation or broken
00:33:18.240
flowers and and he's one of these he's got this rare ability to be so funny but so grounded and
00:33:24.240
touching and and sincere so i wrote the whole thing with him in mind and there was no like oh
00:33:31.200
i'll get another guy it was like this movie only works in my head if it's bill murray i can't think
00:33:35.760
of anybody else i wrote it and he's like famously the hardest guy to get a hold of to be you can't
00:33:43.840
even get him yeah i i knew him a little bit socially i had his number i call him he answers
00:33:48.320
the phone i said hey i have a script that i wrote uh you know i said hello whatever and we talked for
00:33:53.440
a minute and i said i i was calling because i wrote the script and and i think you'd be great
00:33:56.800
and he's like oh that's wonderful you know mail it to my house very old school he's like printing
00:34:00.400
out sending my house so i sent it to him he calls me like a couple of weeks later he's like yeah i i i
00:34:06.080
like this can you send me the book i sent him the book he was really into the book as well
00:34:09.840
and um we eventually set it up seth rogan plays his son kiki palmer is playing seth's wife and um
00:34:20.560
we shot for like three weeks and then um something happened on set where uh bill was inappropriate with
00:34:26.960
uh someone uh that was working on the film oh i remember something about yeah yeah um was it real
00:34:34.480
or was it fabricated who knows uh i mean something really happened okay so something occurred and people
00:34:38.960
felt their ways about it right yeah i don't want to get into it too much because it's not my story
00:34:43.120
to tell so something happened on set something you had to shut the movie down yeah he he had a mask
00:34:47.920
on a coveted mask and uh this is from what i understand he had a code mask on and he was trying
00:34:54.160
to be funny and he was kissing this woman that he was friends with with the mask on trying to be funny
00:34:58.960
but this woman didn't like this and was was upset and um and eventually it turned into this whole
00:35:05.520
thing and they shut the whole movie down oh yeah there's the wikipedia page uh but uh yes this is
00:35:13.680
what bill said at the time i did something i thought was funny it wasn't taken that way
00:35:17.840
the company movie studio wanted to do the right thing so they wanted to check it all out
00:35:20.960
investigate it so they stopped the production yeah the the the whole whole movie shut down um
00:35:26.320
it says i'm sorry i shared that 75 it wasn't 75 we shot like half of it but anyway i can't remember
00:35:33.600
what what how we started on this but that um yeah i'd love to finish that at some point you know if we
00:35:38.800
can because you know it was it was uh it was very special but god you know it must have been i must
00:35:44.640
have been heartbreaking for everybody it was but it was one of those things it was so crazy i don't think
00:35:50.400
i ever fully processed it i mean you want to know something crazy i remember the week it happened
00:35:55.440
i was getting married that summer and my friends had uh they wanted to plan some sort of bachelor
00:36:04.000
party for you not like uh i i'm not like hey let's go to the strip club kind of guy they were like gonna
00:36:09.120
we're gonna go to a restaurant go to the spa or something like that like a very silly kind of like
00:36:13.520
a math-a-thon yeah what's the math-a-thon we just do a bunch of math is that a real thing or did
00:36:20.240
you just make up that word i don't know but i could see for some reason i just think you think
00:36:25.360
i'm that's what i'm into no i'm not in the math-a-thons wait it's a real thing it's a
00:36:29.680
fundraising event where you do math wow it is zuckerberg was a mathlete um andrew wang was a
00:36:37.520
mathlete no alexander wang was a mathlete a lot of those tech bros were mathletes dude alexander
00:36:43.200
wang the fashion guy no there's a new one um a new alexander wang that guy died or something i
00:36:49.600
think wait i don't think he did this is a different guy oh this is a gen z billionaire
00:36:54.960
this alexander without the e a wang they call him in the streets boy whoa he's 28 years old
00:37:00.640
in the tech trenches deep in the model is this screen with the guy looking stuff up with you
00:37:05.280
around all the time or just when you do the podcast that would be so great because i'm the
00:37:10.640
opposite of this i never look anything up you know i don't you know what my wife said to me
00:37:15.280
yesterday i you know i don't have i don't keep a smartphone on me i don't i blocked all the
00:37:21.280
shit on the internet i don't really use the internet so sometimes i'll just ask my wife
00:37:25.440
stuff the same way you're asking this guy and she's like you know i'm not the internet i'm your wife
00:37:32.320
because i what i'm secretly asking without asking is like can you look that up for me because i can't
00:37:37.600
look it up and she's like i'm not the internet dude it was a dark moment you married you married
00:37:46.080
just to have the internet that's so great i just needed to have a smartphone without having one so
00:37:50.560
that's why i got married dude she said that to me i'm not the internet she loves me very much we're
00:37:56.800
just texting about how much we love each other but it sounds like it look we believe all that it's
00:38:01.440
tough man it's tough i mean i i've you know i've i've gotten lost and had to call her and and been
00:38:08.560
like hey where where where are we yeah i can't find them because i i live in london and you know
00:38:16.240
there's you live in london yeah most of the time i'm there because we met in london we live there and
00:38:20.560
um oh your wife is in london is in london pull up the ex-girlfriend she's in some
00:38:24.080
um but anyway we live in uh we live in in london we met there and um you know does she speak danish
00:38:34.880
as well yeah she speaks danish and i love languages but danish is pretty tough is it it's tough yeah
00:38:40.240
is it romantic is it considered a romantic language oh this gets this gets back to the donkey thing
00:38:44.880
okay so she said that um i was like well what's like a danish term of affection like maybe we can use
00:38:50.240
that and she said it was like skit and i was like that that sounds harsh that doesn't sound very
00:38:54.480
sweet and we were somewhere where we saw a donkey and she and i said what's the word for donkey and
00:39:00.560
she said and she said and uh and she said it was her first word and that she loved donkeys and i was
00:39:09.280
like why don't we call each other that and so we started calling each other that yeah and now i have
00:39:14.000
you see that ae that that's here on this this chain the ae and that's what led to us meeting the
00:39:20.080
little mini donkey in nashville where we are now boom god yeah yeah oh you're my little aesle yeah
00:39:30.960
exactly but yeah it's pretty close yeah that's that's it pretty close i mean no you said it right
00:39:37.120
you're actually saying it better than i do you're doing the ae the combined ae yeah that danish is you
00:39:42.160
know it's like wait a second now now we're coming up with new letters you're combining the a and e i'm
00:39:47.040
you know i can speak italian okay my my family speaks tamil it's an indian language i can speak
00:39:51.840
that a little bit well that yeah but danish is it's a tricky one well a lot of our mix are cis and
00:39:57.760
bi gender now some some vowels are like there'll be a vowel that has is is trans now you're it's
00:40:03.920
changing identity yeah it's like what's the other one they ae how do we pronounce you bro that's all
00:40:08.880
we want hey we just want to show you respect and do it right do whatever you want but just tell
00:40:13.280
we just need to know how to use you in a word and some vowels now are like i don't want to be in
00:40:17.840
your fucking words or whatever and we're like bitch or sir just be in the fucking word dude you're a
00:40:23.600
letter but that's where it's at now man it's it dan it's tough because we'll be there that's not a
00:40:28.720
real thing which thing the isn't that oh with the circle elon's kid's name i don't know hey so
00:40:37.440
you're saying it right that that's pretty good pronunciation no and whenever i whenever we're in
00:40:41.760
denmark and i try to read a word i'll try to pronounce it right and it's just i just don't
00:40:45.840
know the pronunciation rules i get everything wrong but wait how do we start talking oh because
00:40:50.400
i use her as a phone sometimes i'm walking around in london and london there's a lot of
00:40:55.360
like maps on the street so if i get lost i can find the map and kind of make my way but sometimes
00:41:01.040
i i'll like keep walking around hoping to run into one of these maps and i won't run into one and i have
00:41:05.520
to call her and i'll have to be like hey i'm over here you gotta you gotta tell me how to get to the
00:41:10.880
tube station and i remember that even when i first came to la i don't know whenever you first
00:41:17.200
came to la how long ago it was but you know there wasn't gps and stuff gps was like a fancy thing if
00:41:22.800
they had it at all so i would like print out directions on map quest and i remember you know
00:41:29.200
i would call my little brother uh my little brother is a few years younger than me he was still in south
00:41:34.080
carolina and i'd call him be like hey man i'm on caesar chavez how do i how do i get back
00:41:41.680
because we didn't have the stuff yeah when you came to la was it like that yeah dude people had
00:41:47.920
maps drawings you'd have a guy who had directions tattooed on his arm of how to get home if he was an
00:41:52.800
alcoholic or whatever oh my god like shit was definitely more primitive back then people would
00:41:57.360
like just write on their dashboard how to get home like yeah people had to remember remember when
00:42:03.120
you just knew everybody's phone number yeah but also when somebody would give you directions dude
00:42:08.880
and if you missed one of them or something and you were going to a party you just drove around
00:42:12.560
their neighborhood for an hour and then went home like you would drive and roll your windows down
00:42:17.120
and see if you heard a party from the backyard yeah we're basically like a bunch of like um uh
00:42:23.120
uh magellans you know and it's strange to think there's there's people that grew up without
00:42:29.840
knowing that at all and it really does seem nuts that we were able to be okay without it
00:42:36.480
yeah you know well it's like you imagine now it's like we're gonna go to the airport and nobody's
00:42:40.080
gonna go through tsa right because that's how i barely remember that like that you could go up to
00:42:45.920
the gate and all that stuff you know all of my travel you know i started doing comedy
00:42:51.280
by the time i was touring and stuff and traveling all the time like we do that so you were already
00:42:57.280
big touring when you started doing comedy or no no no no i'm saying like i didn't start traveling a
00:43:02.160
bunch you know touring and doing all the stuff until after tsa and all these kind of things you
00:43:07.040
know i barely remember traveling um i wasn't on that many you know i wasn't flying all the time like
00:43:12.240
you know i do now so i barely remember that time where like you could walk up to the gate you know i
00:43:17.280
might not even remember it actually yeah i mean that all happened after 9 11 so it's after 2001
00:43:22.400
you know yeah maybe a couple flights i'd taken probably but yeah dude imagine if we went back
00:43:28.320
to that now would you think say right now you go to the airport there's no tsa would you trust
00:43:36.080
everyone enough to be like okay we're all going to fly home together guys does everybody promise
00:43:42.240
are not going to cause any problems i mean uh i don't know it'd be it's it's it's wild times
00:43:49.280
right now i don't know and they would ask you twice i mean i was in the airport these past couple days
00:43:54.320
and you know the government's been shut down those people are there they're working for free like i was
00:43:58.000
like hey just so you know guys we're working for free and i was like oh my god that's unbelievable
00:44:03.760
it's wild yeah the government's just turned into like a shitty vehicle it's like every now and
00:44:07.680
then it just fucking shuts down or whatever dude i mean you gotta understand for me to like
00:44:13.200
be in london and read about all the stuff happening here and then come here like i was in chicago
00:44:17.280
yesterday and the and so my friend's like wow time to be in chicago i was like what do you mean
00:44:21.280
they're like oh the national guards they're just grabbing mexican people i was like what
00:44:26.960
what when did that happen i'm just over here trying to tell people about good fortune
00:44:31.920
and they're like yeah they're grabbing they're grabbing mexican people and the national guards
00:44:38.160
there and ba ba ba tsa oh yeah they're oh yeah what are you you getting on a plane later to fly to
00:44:44.240
national oh yeah they the government shut down like most of the air traffic people went home oh great
00:44:49.760
thanks yeah i'm i'm it's okay i'm gonna i'm gonna fly to national and then get on another plane back
00:44:54.320
to new york same day cool weekend to be on all these planes yeah you're like it's just the bad news bears
00:44:59.600
of tsa right now you got all the people that are like down to come and work in for free yeah dude
00:45:04.320
you have just like the militant guy you have the guy who's been waiting to get in the game like wait
00:45:09.600
like no training but just fucking waiting to get in back today this is gonna be a really dark last
00:45:16.960
interview snippet and here's the clip where aziz predicts oh my god bro that's so hilarious that
00:45:24.480
there's like backup of everybody's backup right now like the park wardens are like bro welcome to
00:45:31.360
the fucking park bro it's like it's just like the second string dude he's like dude the owls are
00:45:37.920
fucking monumental right now bro take all these people for granted that's so true huh well the the
00:45:46.640
raids and stuff like that are crazy because we they let so many people into the country right like
00:45:53.200
without having a pattern of like this is an organized way to do something right because i
00:45:57.600
think they need to organize it it needs to be organized right because it's it's odd if people
00:46:01.520
are here that they live in fear that they're always going to be like they you know found out or something
00:46:07.680
and then it's odd that people are that there's nefarious people here that don't want to be found out
00:46:12.560
you know so i think like they need some organization of it but yeah the fact that it gets like where people
00:46:20.640
are being ripped out of places and then you don't know also some of these days i i really believe
00:46:26.560
you don't know what's real and what's not when you see it sometimes like it could literally be a
00:46:30.320
scene that was put together like some of like the antifa stuff you would see in the park during the
00:46:34.400
pandemic i watched i watched that movie you see one battle after another it's good it's amazing but
00:46:39.840
it's it's it's crazy because you know he wrote that movie a long time ago and it's like i was in
00:46:47.520
chicago and i was like damn this is one battle after another because you know in the movie it's
00:46:52.880
it's very much like uh a military state and like the military is just you know around going and doing
00:46:59.520
this kind of stuff and it's kind of wild the dude you know he's supposedly been working on the movie
00:47:03.680
for like 15 years or something wow and and it's it's out now when this stuff is you know so top of
00:47:10.960
mind it's so so in there you know yeah eddington was really great you see eddington i didn't see
00:47:15.680
eddington but i've heard it it's it's kind of they're they're dealing with similar stuff i need
00:47:19.600
to see that yeah just a lot of things happening at once um but i believe we're headed to a uh
00:47:26.080
surveillance state you know i believe that we're that's why they're trying that that that happened
00:47:30.720
like a long time ago i'm talking about drones in the sky surveillance like that vibe oh my god
00:47:36.640
i mean like that's where we're heading like dude the movie i want to see this is how i think it ends
00:47:40.800
blacks versus drones dude what that's how it ends bro that is people are wondering how does time
00:47:48.800
how does this all where do indian people fit in this are we running we're just running the door
00:47:52.480
okay the right where where where do the indians fit in this movie okay we need kyrie irving to move
00:47:57.840
over to the you're just like what's he okay because he plays basketball no i mean i'm just thinking of
00:48:04.000
a cool black guy um but yeah you're like okay uh but dude that's how it ends like i think you're
00:48:10.160
everybody's like what's going on in society and like these different groups and people back and
00:48:15.120
like you know genocide all these stuff going on and you're like how does it all and i think it's
00:48:20.000
blacks versus drones i don't know for me any as someone that used to live here and now comes here
00:48:25.840
occasionally for work every time i come back it just feels wild and it feels i think it feels wilder to
00:48:31.760
me because i think for people that are here it's like oh they're slowly seeing it get crazy so
00:48:38.400
they're not going from like one to a hundred like i do like you know my time in la you know i remember
00:48:45.840
you know just seeing the amount of tents and all that stuff you know coming you know going to la and
00:48:52.400
in new york after covid because during code i was in london the whole time with my wife
00:48:55.600
hmm so coming back to both those cities after covid i was like whoa yeah it's like a slipknot
00:49:02.160
tailgate out there now you know it's fucking you know my wife loves slipknot you're lying my wife has
00:49:09.360
a phd in physics or how she's a genius and she loves it's like she had this emo phase and i i every
00:49:18.160
now and then i'll just i'll just bring up that she loves my two favorite facts about my wife she's
00:49:23.440
gonna hate that i'm bringing this stuff up no it's important one is that she loves slipknot
00:49:29.280
and the other thing is that she was little miss denmark ooh that was a little competition for
00:49:36.480
little kids when she was like five six year olds and she won two years in a row and then they stopped
00:49:42.160
the contest no because she kept winning god they shut it down they shut it down what they don't like
00:49:52.000
somebody really stepping out of the norm i think they were just like we this we shouldn't be doing
00:49:56.240
these little pageants for these kids and and my wife she said like they would have a you know like
00:50:02.240
oh you'd have the talent portion or whatever and and she would be like you know doing her dance
00:50:07.360
whatever and they're like all right that's good she's like no i'm not finished with my routine
00:50:11.280
i don't mean to be an so uh yeah but i'm about to win this bitch for a third time dude holy
00:50:19.680
shit she's like the boston celtics of those fucking danish competitions yeah and then and then she had
00:50:24.880
her emo phase and got really really into slipknot rebelled against the pageant life you shut down a
00:50:30.560
pageant queen like that where they can't even perform anymore that is a direct avenue to slipknot
00:50:34.880
gory understands how else do you even manage that sort of stress and strain
00:50:45.040
where are you gonna put those fucking pirouettes bro you're gonna package those bitches and put
00:50:49.200
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00:50:57.520
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little miss denmark my wife's gonna be thrilled oh that's awesome i'm glad that you found love out
00:52:22.800
there man did you uh were you good with the ladies growing up what was your energy like
00:52:27.440
um you know i grew up in it's weird because i grew up in south carolina i remember every school
00:52:34.400
like in the south kind of had it had an indian guy was it like that your school was there a big indian
00:52:38.160
group there's two there's two versions of this okay there's like oh if you're in like atlanta or
00:52:43.840
something there's like the indian crew and they hang out and then there's what i grew up with which is
00:52:49.840
like just me and when i was little i i kind of forget this sometimes in like first and second
00:52:56.560
grade there was this thai girl and her name was tisha which doesn't make sense that doesn't really
00:53:02.800
sound like a thai name but her name was tisha but they left kind of a black tie it's a fair it sounds
00:53:08.240
like a black tie it sounds like a black tie affair she was thai and uh but they they left and then
00:53:15.200
it was just me as indian and it's in the 80s and you know it's so interesting to look back i was
00:53:21.040
thinking about this and i had a conversation with my mom a while ago that really like blew me away so
00:53:26.400
first off you know as soon as i tell people i grew up in south carolina they're always like oh
00:53:31.840
it must have been so racist all the stuff and of course there's there's moments where it wasn't
00:53:36.960
nice and and like people calling you almost n-word or something like that oh n-word not almost oh
00:53:42.240
really yeah yeah those people are nearsighted or whatever i don't know that's crazy but there was
00:53:48.560
also i feel like you know there was a time i was writing something and i asked my parents to just tell
00:53:53.280
me like i didn't want to write stuff about people being racist to to people i wanted to write something
00:54:00.000
positive so i was like tell me things you remember that were positive like experiences you had you
00:54:04.160
know being because someone because you know my parents are there in the 80s yeah it was different
00:54:08.640
for sure they don't people there didn't even know what indian people were they didn't see them in
00:54:13.920
the culture they didn't see nothing they didn't understand it looks like a black person that they
00:54:18.320
didn't finish the job on or whatever kind of you know no judgment that let's just make sure that
00:54:26.080
quote is attributed to you uh but yeah for sure dude but i think it's like because sometimes you
00:54:33.200
do see that indian dude you're like is this a black dude or an indian dude this is but we're joking but
00:54:38.720
it is what people were saying they had never seen indian people before yes i agree not in the media or
00:54:44.880
anything and so my experience you know i'm talking about the positive stuff first off i skipped first and
00:54:51.040
second grade i did first and second grade in one year so people were like people were like oh my
00:54:55.840
god this genius little brown boy yeah and and so i was like i had and i i was in a small school
00:55:01.520
there was like 30 kids in my class there's 8 000 people that live in my town um yeah but uh you know
00:55:08.160
i was raised by my parents but uh first grade is fucking easy first grade is easy my dad would like
00:55:14.240
show me that it takes a whole year you're like what the fuck are we doing my dad would like write
00:55:18.800
little math problems and stuff for me so i was really advanced and like math and stuff so
00:55:22.480
go back and look at it yeah no it's it's yeah you you should be able to teach your kid all that
00:55:26.800
stuff before you can even eavesdrop you can tap into like classrooms and watch it's like this is so
00:55:30.800
fucking easy dude i wish you had a ring camera in there and just be giving the kids the answers
00:55:34.320
and shit what it's yellow if they had like one of those ring cameras you could talk in like a
00:55:39.040
children's class or whatever i mean back then no ring camera just had my dad teaching me stuff so by
00:55:44.560
the time i was like halfway through first grade they called my parents like this is you got to
00:55:49.440
get him out of here he's he's got to go up to second grade and so i went to second grade and that was
00:55:53.920
like this big story in the school that some kid had skipped the grade yeah it's like when lebron left
00:55:59.840
miami it was exactly like lebron i was like lebron with like very elementary math problems yeah lebron
00:56:07.600
yes exactly and uh but you know when i was thinking back about my childhood and talking to
00:56:13.760
my parents and and you know there was these two ladies that uh took care of us first off i i was
00:56:20.400
talking to my mom and she's talking about how when she came to south carolina my dad had been in
00:56:25.280
america he was in new jersey doing his residency then he went back to india married my mom and then
00:56:30.960
they came to south carolina where my dad moved because he applied for these jobs all over the country
00:56:36.480
and in south carolina they didn't have a lot of the doctor he was he's a gastroenterologist so
00:56:40.400
then they moved to south carolina my mom comes to south carolina swims never left india like this
00:56:47.040
she's in bennettsville south carolina not like oh you're in new york city no bennettsville south
00:56:52.560
carolina and uh my dad brings her home and then he has to go to work and i asked my mom i was like
00:56:59.600
you know what was that day like and she was like and i put this in my show she said oh i i just sat on
00:57:05.040
the couch and i cried and i was like oh my god it's so dark it was like so much braver than i i
00:57:10.160
could be you know i mean this is there's no face time nothing none of that you're really alone it
00:57:14.480
was just cable television yeah but i'm talking about like to have a connection with your family
00:57:18.480
or anything there's no way to communicate you're just praying and like lighting candles and putting
00:57:22.320
those oranges in that little thing there's no even like making a long distance call was a different
00:57:27.200
thing back then yeah it was like 11 dollars yeah it was not the way it is now where you could you know
00:57:31.760
so she was really alone but she used to go and do laundry all the time to just be around other
00:57:38.000
people and there was some lady there an older white lady that recognized that you know became some
00:57:44.640
saw her with me and uh and and became friendly with her and they called her grandma i don't know
00:57:54.000
the woman's real name actually when and and i called her grandma and she would take care of me and
00:58:00.000
like kind of looked out for our family and she eventually i i think she moved or something or
00:58:06.560
whatever but she she she couldn't take care of us anymore and this woman uh who we called nana
00:58:14.960
it's what her grandkids called her she started taking care of us and then there was this woman
00:58:18.800
named miss beulah who who would take care of us after school she had some tits on her i bet
00:58:23.680
miss beulah rest in peace i'm not gonna pass away my bad yeah i didn't know that and i hope let's not
00:58:31.520
but miss beulah as you might guess from the name beulah black woman from the south and would cook the
00:58:37.520
meanest southern food for us so i would eat indian food and southern food and um and so nana miss
00:58:44.080
beulah part of my life and um you know i uh i i had a sister that passed away and she was uh a few
00:58:54.000
years younger than me and she had a very rare she had a um something called hurler syndrome it's a super
00:59:00.080
rare um liver disease sorry uh it's obviously a little heavy for me but um
00:59:13.600
so she she passed away what's her name her name is nafees nafees that's a pretty name huh yeah
00:59:20.560
um and uh she passed away and uh nana um nana passed away a few years ago when i was in college
00:59:30.880
a while ago now and um you know i didn't get a chance to miss beulah i got to say a proper
00:59:37.600
goodbye to i went and saw her when she was standing in retirement home nana i didn't have that same
00:59:41.440
moment i was in college and and it wasn't uh the same kind of thing where i had that opportunity to
00:59:46.160
say bye um but my mom had told me that she went to go see um uh visit my sister at cemetery and and
00:59:58.640
you know we're my sister's buried in in in south carolina and in bennettsville and you know that
01:00:06.080
is a tricky thing because my family's from a muslim background and they wanted to do
01:00:10.480
they were asking the cemetery can we do the things we do for our culture and and the cemetery was like
01:00:17.680
yeah of course whatever you need to do which is which is just so cool to me that they they they were
01:00:23.920
open to that and the whole community you know we're visiting our family and everything and um
01:00:31.200
i remember even like a priest came by to just you know even though we were different religion
01:00:35.840
he came and like wanted to talk to us and stuff and everyone was just so kind about it and and um
01:00:41.280
um my mom told me that she went to go see uh my sister at the cemetery and she said oh and we saw nana
01:00:51.680
too i was like what do you mean she's like well nana's buried right next to her no and i just
01:01:00.560
i like melted as a human because i i did not know that and and to me like i heard that and and i was
01:01:08.400
like wow like you know i was saying all the stuff about crazy this country is and how crazy it feels
01:01:12.560
right now but that story that doesn't happen anywhere else in the world man like those two people my
01:01:21.040
sister and this woman that befriended you guys yeah have that close a bond where she's like i i want to
01:01:30.720
be buried next to her i mean it was it was wow i did not know that and and and you know i i i heard
01:01:37.920
that and i was like i i don't know why it popped in my head but i'm so glad it did and then i got to
01:01:43.680
share that with you because i i heard that story and i was like man people need to hear that story
01:01:48.080
because it's not the story people want to tell oh it's not the story that the media wants to tell
01:01:53.200
it's not a story that it's a story that doesn't really get the clicks but it's the story that's
01:01:59.280
probably it's the truth that most people that the human part of us is what makes us
01:02:06.960
special and that's the part that we should all try and lean into the most is that we're this special
01:02:13.680
thing that can care about each other you know yeah i mean the the fact that these people saw my
01:02:20.720
parents and and and and and tried to forge this bond with them and i mean i i hope we're still
01:02:28.800
a place where that kind of stuff can happen i think it happens a lot i think you're just right i
01:02:33.440
think it's not the like the new it's not the news you know but i think it is more common probably
01:02:39.680
than we think um thanks for sharing that dude it is an important story that's a great story
01:02:45.520
oh sorry um did your sister have it the whole time when she was growing up when she was from birth
01:02:52.480
yeah it was it was one of these things where you know the life expectancy with that uh hurlers is not
01:02:58.240
um it's not very long it she passed when she was like six eight years old oh yeah and was she um
01:03:06.000
and it's one of these days i i don't really talk about it very much and a lot of people even that
01:03:10.960
know me don't know i had a sister because people would ask me like oh do you have any siblings and
01:03:16.080
i'm like oh yeah i got a little brother and and i had a sister that passed away and i would say it like
01:03:20.160
that and then people like oh like it's a very like heavy thing to hear all of a sudden and so i was
01:03:26.240
like oh i don't want to make people uncomfortable so i'll just say oh i i have a little brother
01:03:32.080
and then they'll be like what's you guys gap oh uh he's seven years younger wow that's a big gap
01:03:37.760
yeah i'm gonna not go down this thing because i don't want to bum everybody out because we're all
01:03:42.800
just hanging out at chick-fil-a right now sitting there tapping her foot like what are we doing
01:03:47.280
here no dude that's um my sister was born with a rare liver disease and she had to get a liver
01:03:52.000
transplant when we were kids oh so we spent most of our childhood like um you know she was always
01:03:57.120
this thing that we couldn't touch because she always didn't have these surgeries and stuff
01:04:00.240
so i think it just reminds me like a lot of that i think some of that oh man that stuff you know i
01:04:04.800
think it's just interesting when you grow up with a sibling that's sick because i think it i never even
01:04:10.000
thought about it till you were saying some of this it just like i don't know you have to adjust
01:04:17.040
yourself i think to try and maybe like my sister got most of the care right but she needed most of
01:04:23.840
it so it was weird so there were times where i'd be like i don't you know later on in life i'd be
01:04:28.960
like oh i didn't get this care but it was like i didn't need it the most you know what was you guys's
01:04:34.080
age difference um two years and she's still alive she ended up getting a liver transplant she got one of
01:04:38.960
the first liver transplants in um we moved to arizona she got it out there and but um that's
01:04:44.880
incredible but it was just this whole time when she was a kid she was always being flown off to
01:04:48.160
these places and they sounded magical like rochester minnesota just different places where there's these
01:04:52.560
big hospitals and she'd come back like this like almost like this build-a-bear that somebody done
01:04:58.320
a shitty job with you know what i'm saying like just all these scars and stuff but it was just she
01:05:02.480
was always just it was weird because you like couldn't hold it it was just like it was interesting did
01:05:07.680
you have any experience like that with your sister or what was it like there wasn't that kind of um
01:05:12.640
um there wasn't like all these things to try because uh the hurlers is pretty they don't really
01:05:20.960
have a thing you know there's like you know oh you can maybe do a bone trans bone marrow transplant
01:05:27.040
and but it's it's not really a thing they've made much progress on so there was never anything like
01:05:33.360
that and i don't know it's interesting talking about this because because you think about
01:05:37.680
oh it's like when you're a kid it's so hard to understand what's happening you have no frame of
01:05:46.720
reference and you know when i look back on that stuff as as an adult i i can't imagine how hard it
01:05:52.160
was for my parents like oh yeah you know to to to have a child that has something like that and then to
01:05:58.240
lose a child it's it's you know i i can't it's strange to like step outside of yourself and
01:06:06.400
honestly this is like some of the most i've talked about it with anybody and i don't mean to pry about
01:06:13.120
it it's just and there's also a thing in the no and not at all i don't think prying at all and i i
01:06:18.240
think it's really interesting that you know you had something your sister had something as well and and um
01:06:23.600
um but you know there's a thing with like indian families and you know and maybe it's it's a lot
01:06:30.240
of families in that time it's like you don't talk about stuff oh really is that like an indian thing
01:06:34.800
kind of i think there's something of like oh you're not as open about your feelings and stuff and you're
01:06:41.040
just a little bit more closed off i think so yeah with asian families indian families i think with
01:06:46.560
with emotional stuff like that you know but you guys do reincarnation so you can you're probably just
01:06:51.120
like oh we can have the feelings later we can have this that's that's in hinduism that's a
01:06:54.400
different thing but oh really yeah so you guys are one time only islam it's it's the same as
01:07:00.240
christianity it's uh you know in terms of that stuff as far as i know i'm not a super religious guy
01:07:04.960
but yes that's uh there's the reincarnation is is just in in hindu culture so you guys are one and
01:07:11.840
done huh i mean so is a lot of people okay i'm just saying yeah but yeah man this got really we
01:07:19.680
really went for a heavy turn after micro donkeys this is uh you're tearing up over here i'm tearing
01:07:26.080
up is but it it's it's good to talk about the stuff and and and um you know it it's it's so strange
01:07:34.160
to think back about you know those times and and um you have to think everything my family went
01:07:41.920
through especially my parents you know i never think about that i always think about things this is
01:07:46.400
one place that i kind of like struggle with i think a lot of times i'll think about certain
01:07:50.240
periods and things that happen and i only think about it like as to how it affected me and it's
01:07:55.040
like man to get into that place of where you're even thinking like well how did this affect my parents
01:08:01.840
like i was eating dinner with some friends yesterday and in the background she has like
01:08:05.840
these four kids and they're beautiful kids they have the cutest kids um and they're all going
01:08:12.400
haywire and i it was the first time i thought holy shit my mom had four kids and nobody to
01:08:17.680
fucking help like there was and it was oh yeah imagine what that would be like these days that
01:08:22.000
sounds impossible impossible and our parents were able to do that kind of stuff but it was the first
01:08:27.680
time that i had like even had a perspective moment like that that was that clear you know oh yeah i i
01:08:34.400
just just so for you to have that i think is pretty cool that you think like oh how much
01:08:38.240
what my parents must have went through you know because it's like yeah it's like for us it's a
01:08:42.640
sibling for but for them it's like if you know it's probably something that feels far greater you
01:08:47.040
know yeah anyway i didn't mean to delve into that man no no i i'm glad we did and i i think it's a
01:08:54.080
really interesting thing to talk about and and and for me i i you know um i bet you'd be so proud of
01:08:59.600
you um i you know what i think about sometimes is there was do you know the comic strip comic
01:09:07.760
strip live in in new york oh yeah yeah you you know that club yep that was the first club i ever
01:09:13.280
got passed at and uh there was a guy his name was lucian hold and he was the guy that would pass you
01:09:19.440
you know you've heard of like esty at the cellar he was like esty at the cellar he was the guy yeah
01:09:23.360
there's always that person there's always a person that was a gatekeeper and i went in there when i was
01:09:27.040
like 18 and what was cool about the comic strip was they had a um thing where anybody could audition
01:09:35.040
like you just lined up and then you could audition which is like because you know i don't know if
01:09:41.680
this was your experience when you're starting out but it's like you just wanted a shot right
01:09:44.800
yeah you just wanted a shot and the idea that you could be a regular at the comic i remember i used
01:09:49.120
to go to the comedy cellar and i just be like oh my god could you imagine just getting spots here
01:09:55.040
could you imagine just how amazing it would be to get spots that was my dream i know you're so right
01:10:01.840
and so i went to the comedy comic strip they had this you know open call like you just had to wait
01:10:07.120
in line and then you'd pick from a i believe what would do is you'd pick from a lottery and it would
01:10:12.400
give you a date a date yeah like a they would do on mondays they'd have a certain number of people
01:10:18.400
that were from this audition that's cool so i picked a date and then i showed up
01:10:23.280
and you went through this one woman and if she said okay you can see lucian you'd audition for
01:10:29.280
lucian and so i got through it and then i um i auditioned for lucian and um you know you wait
01:10:37.200
around you wait around all these kind of things even like snl you hear these stories be like yeah
01:10:41.600
you didn't just wait around they just make you wait around and then he spoke to me at the end and
01:10:46.400
he was like he was like you could start working at the club and i was like oh and and and and i was
01:10:52.240
terrible i was not good but i was like very young and i was very comfortable on stage and he told me
01:10:58.640
he was like you know when people your age come in here he's like you're still at nyu right and i was
01:11:03.440
like yeah yeah he said you know um adam sandler was in nyu when i passed and so was sarah silverman
01:11:08.800
and i was like oh wow i mean i i remember i said oh wow it'd be amazing if i had a career like
01:11:13.360
that he's like i don't know if that's in the cards for you but you could he was he was like
01:11:17.760
the most straight shooting guy i mean they there's a very few people that are honest like that that
01:11:24.560
i've met in my 20 something years he was the guy that was like that and he's like i don't know if
01:11:30.640
that's uh it's not an impression of him but he's like i i i don't know if that's uh something that's
01:11:35.360
in the cards for you but you could start working in the club and and um i would do uh you would do
01:11:41.760
like late night which is like uh they'd have the show and then you could sign up to go on
01:11:48.000
at the end of the show so there'd be like nobody there i'd do that all the time sure but getting
01:11:52.080
up on stage even just that walking up when you're coming up you if if there's six people there it
01:11:58.080
feels like a million people it you're so excited the feeling that is the energy that the the the fear
01:12:05.440
and that energy and that nervous it feels like a million and and sometimes the i mean and i'll say
01:12:11.280
this and you're gonna light up because you'll know this feeling sometimes someone on the bill
01:12:16.080
like that was supposed to be on at like nine o'clock wouldn't show up and they pull someone
01:12:19.760
from late night and so you'd get to go on when people were still there yes and i remember one
01:12:26.560
time like i'm gonna show these bitches that's what i would say this i had kind of an aggressive
01:12:30.320
nature but yeah but it was like this kind of like oh i i'm gonna get to prove myself a little bit
01:12:34.720
but um oh one time i remember chris rock dropped in and i went after it went on after him and like
01:12:42.640
everybody was everyone's like oh chris rock just went on they just all started leaving and i told
01:12:46.480
chris the story the other day i was like i forgot this i forgot i mean and now he's my fucking friend
01:12:52.560
it's the craziest thing in the world to me um but lucian he had a disease called uh uh
01:12:58.240
sceloderma i don't know why i'm saying the disease he had but anyway is it ashy skin no it's like a skin
01:13:03.600
problem yeah yeah i don't know what it is exactly but um sceloderma and this dude stopped looking
01:13:08.400
up stuff because it's gotten too dark the stuff we're talking he's like i'm not gonna pull up
01:13:12.240
this stuff on wikipedia it's too dark he's like oh i i don't think it's appropriate i'm not gonna
01:13:19.520
i'm just gonna let this be i'll wait till they start talking about mini cows again i can pull up
01:13:24.400
those cute pictures he has like a whole he has a whole barrel full well you know maybe i do bring it
01:13:28.800
up because if someone wants to donate to to his fund or whatever so lucian had this
01:13:33.360
disease and we knew he was passing away and i went and visited him and and it was like that movie
01:13:39.200
being mortal you know it was like i knew he was passing away i knew this was probably our last
01:13:44.400
conversation and um he and dude this dude passed away you know chris spoke at his funeral um i think
01:13:52.880
seinfeld may have said something i can't remember i remember i went to the funeral and i was like a
01:13:56.240
little kid i remember i like went and like was crying in the bathroom and stuff because this dude
01:14:00.480
dude was the first dude ever to genuinely believe that i could do something in our world
01:14:07.520
the first person to say hey i'm gonna give you it was like fucking 10 bucks or whatever but he was
01:14:11.520
like i believe in the idea of paying you to tell jokes and that's cool and he um we had that a
01:14:19.200
conversation and and uh i remember he said something to me and he he talked about some comic that he used
01:14:25.680
to know that went to la and um not like a super successful guy but a guy that did okay and he was
01:14:31.200
like you know he said this guy told him that he was in la and he said that uh that's lucian yes that's
01:14:37.840
lucian uh yeah but all i mean he's he's like you know if you talk to guys like they love him yeah and
01:14:46.800
they remember him from back in the day like he was a character he he's the guy that passed you know
01:14:51.600
eddie murphy and like the famous story of chris rock is like eddie murphy was at the club and uh
01:14:58.560
he asked lucian do you have any do you have any uh black comics and uh he said yeah i got one
01:15:05.200
i'll put them up if you'll watch him and it was chris rock wow and then eddie murphy watched him and
01:15:10.240
then put him in in beverly hills cop 2 but anyway dude that's so great though it was it's a huge deal
01:15:16.240
it's a huge amount of validation because it's it's i can't really explain it's still like when
01:15:22.560
i think of all the things i've done in my career it's still i i was excited as about that i mean
01:15:28.640
dude i it was like i think it was like 10 years ago i did madison square garden i it was a similar
01:15:36.480
feeling to get past yeah you know and um but anyway he told me this story about some guy in in la and
01:15:43.120
he said that guy told him like you know there's all these idiots in la and and and if if they're
01:15:49.520
able to do it i can do it too something to that extent like and uh it was a more said it more eloquent
01:15:55.600
than that i'm not doing it justice but he basically said to me you're gonna be okay and he left me with
01:16:01.600
that and it was really cool lucian did yeah he said you're gonna be okay like you're a smart guy and
01:16:06.560
you're gonna be okay and um i mean i've i've been fortunate enough and i think i'm i mean that was
01:16:12.800
when i was a little kid you know i hadn't done anything really and and you know i i feel like
01:16:19.120
i've been fortunate enough in my career to to be uh more than okay uh and done a lot of great things i
01:16:27.120
never would have thought possible when i was you know interacting with lucian and um you know one of
01:16:34.160
my not regrets or i don't know not just just one of my uh oh man kind of feelings is that like oh
01:16:42.080
this guy that was the first guy to believe in me to see me yeah didn't get to see that how far i really
01:16:49.040
went you know and and we're sorry i feel like i'm like taking up too much of your time no this is good
01:16:54.480
okay well you're a great storyteller i'm realizing that's honestly one thing i've realized sitting
01:16:57.920
here oh and i can see why you're able to do what you do even more like writing your movies and
01:17:04.000
knowing like yeah saying how streamlined it is i'm enjoying it so go on sorry you know it's
01:17:10.000
i i i was in a cab one time in london and i was like it's weird because once you become successful
01:17:19.120
it's weird when you drop into a comedy club everyone goes nuts and and everything's a little sweeter
01:17:23.280
because they're excited because you're famous and i i was in a cab with my wife in in london and i
01:17:30.880
and someone was like tell tell us about this thing or whatever and i told i talked about this whole
01:17:37.040
story of something that happened to us and when i left the cab driver said hey you're a really good
01:17:42.640
storyteller and i was like holy shit that was like winning an emmy for me because i was like that guy
01:17:48.720
has no clue who i am and he he went out of his way to tell me that that that made me feel really
01:17:55.760
good was he an indian guy no why would he be indian theo racism he he was like a black guy that was
01:18:01.920
fully finished okay okay he was a fully finished black guy he was a black guy um i love i mean i
01:18:11.200
love race stuff it's fun to joke about and think about because it's so different and it's fun you
01:18:15.440
know well that's that's i think but that's uh you're right man sorry but yeah somebody telling
01:18:20.160
you a great storyteller it's so funny it's sometimes it's that one word or one thing it's like and you
01:18:24.720
get it from someone that doesn't know anything because sometimes you feel like oh man like not
01:18:29.760
like oh people don't you feel like i don't know how much of this is sweetened up because of right
01:18:35.120
and and and and it's very frustrating because i don't think anyone that's successful like that
01:18:38.640
wants any of that but you know you get a little bit of that when you drop in and you're working
01:18:43.760
on material and you know when you're on stage for a while eventually you know if it's that good
01:18:47.760
that's the worst part you're like is this even good and you're like you're just getting unfair
01:18:51.200
reactions but then hopefully if you're self-aware enough and that judge inside of you that little
01:18:56.480
party that's always hated you is still looking lurking you gotta have that guy in there that guy needs
01:19:00.640
to be there that guy needs to be there and if he's there you know because you know all your people
01:19:04.960
oh man it's it's your best hour it's like yeah it's it's getting there right you gotta have that
01:19:09.840
little guy and you gotta have that little guy and look that's that's you know uh whether it's a movie
01:19:15.920
or stand-up show like you know screening a movie it's like yeah people don't lie eventually like
01:19:19.680
they'll they'll be sweet for a little bit but eventually they are like all right come on you
01:19:23.280
know they that that drops after a few minutes yeah and if you start smoking your own bullshit too
01:19:28.240
that's when it can get really spooky oh that's that's when you gotta make sure you you know i i've i've
01:19:33.920
i've been around people enough to be like oh that when you start having a bunch of people around
01:19:38.240
you that tell you you're awesome that's when the everything starts falling apart have you ever
01:19:42.640
had ego problems you ever had anything like that like are you ever able to check your own ego kind
01:19:46.080
of type of things because ego is so dangerous because it can kind of grow in the distance it's
01:19:50.080
almost like something that you don't see growing it's almost like you're standing there with your
01:19:53.520
shadow and then your shadow gets bigger without you noticing it you know you know i think
01:19:59.280
i think the way i i hopefully have been able to avoid that kind of problem is is um i'm not around
01:20:07.680
all the time you know what i mean i kind of go away in a hole and work on stuff this is like the most
01:20:12.800
shit i've done i haven't i haven't been on your podcast i haven't been on anybody's podcast i
01:20:17.680
haven't done anything i've just been working and you know being back out in in in kind of wild
01:20:24.000
yeah in the kind of press world it's been kind of a little overwhelming for me i get very
01:20:31.040
overwhelmed whenever i finished like season one and two of my show like whenever it came on netflix
01:20:35.840
like i left the country because i was just a little bit it was just too much for me like i went to uh
01:20:41.520
i went to japan for a couple of months because like really for months did you see kanye or not
01:20:46.880
he wasn't there at the time but you know i i i wanted to be somewhere where people didn't really
01:20:51.280
know who i was it was it felt a bit it can be a little overwhelming like that that part of our
01:20:56.400
jobs of of red carpets and interviews not it it's a lot yeah i never done a lot of that stuff so i
01:21:01.760
yeah that part i don't know about but i can imagine though but you know it i i'm here and i've been
01:21:07.120
doing all stuff i love doing this because we're just having a great conversation um not everything
01:21:11.920
is this fun um but you know i do it because i i i feel like it's a part of the job and i gotta support
01:21:18.960
the work and the studio that paid for the movie and everything so i do it but it's it's not my i i
01:21:24.080
i like the work i mean all i'm looking forward to is getting back on to work getting back to work
01:21:29.760
like doing like being on set with some people and and and being like hey do this or you know i'm i'm
01:21:34.640
going back on the road for a little bit like being on the road like that that is a billion times
01:21:39.600
more fun um than some of the stuff you have to do excluding like this and i actually like that
01:21:45.760
podcasts are a thing now because i did amy poehler's podcast that was so fun so great she's
01:21:50.720
great i hadn't seen her in a while and i was like oh man i'm just excited to like be with you for an
01:21:54.400
hour and change because i hadn't seen you in so long but yeah dude thanks for making me think about
01:22:00.000
we had a guy named tommy at the comedy store and i and he was like the guy and he's like this
01:22:04.240
character and i've heard his name yeah yeah and people impersonated him all the time and he really
01:22:10.080
was he had this long hair and he looked like a rock and roll guy and i believe he was i think
01:22:14.720
he also played in a band and um and he made jellies and jams and he would bring those he was
01:22:19.440
this very like eccentric type of guy yeah yeah um but he took care of mitzi sure but he would be the
01:22:25.680
guy and he'd sit there and he'd open little curtains of the little will call booth had little curtains
01:22:30.560
on it and he'd be like you're doing good but i happened i went to the comedy store one time i was
01:22:35.200
trying to find out how do they do signups i remember and i was buying a beer on the porch
01:22:39.840
and he thought i was somebody else he's like haven't seen you around here in a while you know
01:22:44.080
we miss you coming around and uh i was like yeah i and he goes why don't you come in come back in on
01:22:52.240
sunday man i'm gonna i want to i want to see you back up there and he fucking had me confused
01:22:57.840
with whoa did you do the other spot yeah did you put your name down no i just i i i didn't even
01:23:05.040
think about that and i just kept fucking doing this and how'd your set go and it went good enough
01:23:10.000
where i got to keep going but it was but before that for sure i went and signed up and waited
01:23:14.880
outside and there's like a guy that's practicing juggling who can't even talk and he's like telling
01:23:19.520
his jokes through like like bowling pins and shit it's like there's all types of stuff there's
01:23:24.000
somebody training a bird or whatever and he's like barely trained it he's like trying to train
01:23:27.680
it really fast in the parking lot it's like you cannot train a train a bird really fast but this
01:23:31.920
is the same thing i was talking about earlier it's so interesting to me that you know comedy
01:23:37.760
comedians we're all having you know this is a crazy moment to be a comedian and people are having such
01:23:42.560
overwhelming amounts of success but at the end of the day like all of us started just wanting a room
01:23:48.480
full of people just a crowd and to be able to perform yeah well you know one one thing that was
01:23:54.560
great about uh good fortune dude and and i haven't finished it but i really i like it and i'm
01:23:59.680
excited to see the end of it it's not that long a movie by the way but i didn't get home last night
01:24:04.800
until probably 11 30. no i'm just saying for people that are worried that oh yeah no no it's not it's
01:24:09.520
an hour and a half movie um but it's good dude the the there were so many like start there started
01:24:14.560
to be some really good plot changes for me that i really dug like right around the spot where i'm at
01:24:18.720
um where the you think it's going to go one way and now it starts to change up and then
01:24:25.200
i don't want to give too much of it away but one thing that was really amazing about it and my friend
01:24:29.280
was watching with me uh was that you felt of how tough it is that first year or two in la you felt
01:24:36.800
of like like when uh your character is sleeping in his car right yeah or like when there's door dash
01:24:42.640
delivery and just like the jobs you get when you first get to a big city to try to survive the
01:24:48.560
parking tickets and how you lose your car you just come out of a place you barely had enough
01:24:52.960
money to go get some avocados it was the one thing you were treating yourself to this week it was
01:24:58.400
like two avocados i'm gonna cut those bitches up and i'm gonna eat those bitches right and then i'm
01:25:03.120
gonna go to sleep right you were so excited and you come out and your fucking car has been towed
01:25:07.680
because you didn't pay tickets all that shit dude my friend and i slept in the mcdonald's
01:25:12.320
ball pit we would jump the fence and sleep in that fucking ball pit because it was like kind
01:25:16.160
of some more space to lay out right like if you got under the balls there's hair in there there's
01:25:20.320
coins under there but it is there's a little bit more room for your body than like because we tried
01:25:25.600
to sleep in his car one night and it was just a nightmare but going through all of that yeah and
01:25:30.480
there is the hair goes to the bottom which i don't understand how that works that's science but uh
01:25:37.200
and yeah they should do a they should see what's in the bottom of a lot of these it's not good
01:25:42.160
but yeah we we would jump over the fence and and sleep in one that you know that that closed at
01:25:46.800
10 we get in just get five five hours of sleep or something you know oh my god i'm so sorry i could
01:25:51.440
relate no it was awesome it was fucking great stories yeah one night we're in there dude we're
01:25:55.440
talking shit to each other laughing and stuff and a fucking asian guy's on the slide he's asleep
01:26:02.640
he's on the slide he's very very exposed no like in one of those high slides where there was room
01:26:09.520
where you could kind of get uh you know it was encompassed he was in the best spot oh my god yes
01:26:14.720
he was in one of the tubes oh damn that's better than the ball pit that's a pro move yeah and even
01:26:20.160
came up to the window it was like a little hamster showing up pretty fucking dope but dude that was
01:26:25.440
like but i forget you forget about all the pieces of the things and the moments that like were so big
01:26:31.840
um and that was in la and that was in la and i think we all McDonald's in la uh it's on wilshire
01:26:38.160
boulevard like wilshire and does that asian guy have a podcast now too i hope he does i think it's
01:26:43.840
ronnie chang you know i was doing a i was doing a uh one of those shows at the comedy cellar where
01:26:50.640
people don't know who's going to show up it was like surprise headliner and it's just me working on
01:26:55.840
stuff and i walked by the line and some lady goes oh i hope it's not ronnie chang oh really yeah but
01:27:04.080
then i found out that it's because she'd been to another one of these and it was ronnie chang
01:27:09.120
and we talked about it in the show but it wasn't because she doesn't like all love to ronnie chang i
01:27:14.800
love ronnie chang dude i just got to see him last week i bumped into him i went into the comedy comedy
01:27:19.600
cellar okay yeah yeah just stopped there and he was in there it was awesome dude just to get to see
01:27:23.680
him he is great he's got some great specials too if you haven't seen if you haven't seen him
01:27:27.120
we i get to get him to come in and talk sometime yeah no he's great but i i just thought it was
01:27:31.520
funny to walk by through that that's so funny dude yeah um but yeah that's one thing i loved about
01:27:37.120
good fortune uh you and seth rogan are just you guys are buddies i guess it is we spoke about this
01:27:43.360
movie and you know if anyone listening is going to see the movie please you know see it in a theater
01:27:49.200
with the crowd because we were talking about these movies like i think it's worth it for sure
01:27:53.440
it definitely felt like a real movie to me it didn't feel like some forced shit you know i know
01:27:57.680
like they're like you know sometimes you get these movies and it's like uh you know they're
01:28:02.320
getting it felt shit feels forced or too fake or like it's not real i didn't feel any of that i
01:28:06.320
didn't feel like any pandering for some like social causes or any no it's just trying to be
01:28:11.120
very real yeah and um and very funny and and you know it's good dude i'm fucking excited about
01:28:15.840
finishing it oh because your character starts to get like what the fuck i thought he was great and
01:28:20.640
then he's like but you see the different parts of us that can come out and come to the surface
01:28:24.800
when different things like are attached to us yeah but when we were making the movie seth and i would
01:28:30.000
talk about like you know how we'd go to movie theaters and see movies like anchorman or super
01:28:34.800
bad or you know pineapple express and and and you'd have like a room it'd be like a stand-up show you
01:28:39.760
know like a room full of people erupting and you know it's like what we feel when you do stand-up like
01:28:44.880
if we did stand-up and there was only like one person in the crowd that's not the same thing like
01:28:49.040
the people make a difference so like seeing a movie uh a comedy in theaters it's something that's
01:28:53.760
kind of gone away after the pandemic and everything and and um i i hope we can bring it back i mean we
01:28:58.800
were just in chicago last night and we screened the movie we've been doing these like little secret
01:29:02.240
screenings and and i've been sitting in a little bit and watching it i'm like i don't even remember
01:29:06.640
the last time i've been in a packed theater watching a comedy so i i hope the movie works and that
01:29:12.560
people get to make more comedies and they get to see them in theaters because
01:29:15.600
you know it's something that i miss and um yeah i mean especially because our movie is like an
01:29:20.720
original movie um a comedy theatrical it's tough to get it done i mean i really am not even lying or
01:29:27.360
joking or pandering to you or to our fans i wouldn't say that i think it's worth going to
01:29:32.000
see i think if you took a date or a friend or your buddy you guys would have a good time it would be
01:29:35.520
worth your money it'd be worth driving over there and sitting in there so far and i'm not even done
01:29:39.040
with it unless it gets really bad no no the back is oh man the back is great we'd have to talk about it
01:29:44.080
afterwards because it really relates to a lot of the things some of the stuff we were talking about
01:29:48.480
earlier some of the emotional things we were talking about in terms of just just kind of seeing
01:29:52.800
other people and seeing what they're going through and just kind of giving them a look you know i i
01:29:56.800
was thinking about that when my mom was telling me that story but yeah yeah yeah that was a great
01:30:03.360
story man do you feel like why do you feel like you have to do so much because this is something i've
01:30:09.440
struggled with in my own life like i i think i need to have a kid or something because i i feel
01:30:14.800
like as i've gotten older you know i do things like oh yeah i you know i was uh i'm like prolific
01:30:22.160
you've done so many tv shows you've written you've directed you've won haven't you won an emmy before
01:30:27.200
yeah i won one two emmys damn brother gang yeah but i'm just saying like and sorry i don't know i
01:30:32.960
i don't know a lot about that um but uh but but doing too much why do you have do you do you ever
01:30:39.920
know why you feel like you because some people they could do half of that and feel extremely
01:30:46.960
accomplished and they would be but do you feel like is it is it financial which is fine it's
01:30:52.320
definitely nice to have money and have security is it like is there something that you find because
01:30:56.960
it's not financial because doing movies i you know i i technically would make way more money
01:31:02.080
touring i'm like losing money doing these movies like i'm trying to make a movie for theaters it's
01:31:08.160
kind of like trying to be like hey i want to build a tower records good luck aziz um it's it's not what's
01:31:15.120
the lucrative thing you know what i mean like it's interesting because i i my like heyday of touring
01:31:21.680
and everything was probably you know 10 years ago when i did um the garden and all that stuff i was
01:31:27.520
touring like crazy and back in that time not many people were doing theaters and arenas like there
01:31:32.800
was only a few people and now it's like fucking everybody does and when i go on tour i'm like who
01:31:38.160
the who's alton brown the chef he's playing the the d-pack center in durham oh he's just chopping
01:31:44.400
food up and people are coming everybody's on tour dude there'll be a dude julienning a
01:31:48.960
carrot for 11 000 people yes and you're like what dude is it that tv show is it cake is going on
01:31:54.400
tour i'm like yes who gives a yes is it cake tour and you're like wait i i'm that's what i'm competing
01:31:59.600
with people in the stands of binoculars trying to figure out it was not like this at 70 yards
01:32:05.760
it's ridiculous it's not it's not like this who cares if it's fondant it was not like this and in
01:32:12.320
that time there was a whole podcast boom everybody found an audience you didn't you cut out the middleman
01:32:18.480
of netflix or whatever people are putting stuff on youtube and now all these people are touring
01:32:22.160
and there's been this massive boom and i during that time made my tv series worked on these movies
01:32:28.080
and have kind of uh stepped away um but now you're coming back you're touring again yeah i'm touring
01:32:33.920
again now and and it's been so fun and i have uh i've had a great time but i'm also like damn dude
01:32:41.840
the travel it hits me in a different way and like i'm yeah you see october 23rd i'm getting stressed
01:32:46.800
so i'm like i can't i can't go to temecula i gotta i gotta cancel temecula stan diego oh god
01:32:54.320
oh modesta monterey oh god at least i can hub out of la oh no then i gotta fly to cincinnati on the
01:33:00.000
13th oh god then we gotta fly to louisville tsa is gonna be closed there's gonna be like one air
01:33:05.520
traffic controller then i'm probably gonna go down on my way to st louis that's gonna be delayed
01:33:10.880
indianapolis will be fun dude indianapolis then i go see my family in charlotte that's nice i love
01:33:16.480
asheville asheville is a great great town and savannah is a great town savannah is beautiful
01:33:20.640
too yeah that no i love the show and i love being in the different cities because you know when you
01:33:25.840
tour you form a relationship with with these cities and you're happy to go back oh you're
01:33:29.040
excited to go back you're excited to see like oh look at this crowd this one's different this
01:33:32.800
energy this place is yeah and and and what's so cool is is and i think this is why people like to
01:33:37.680
go to live stand-up is like even if you watch in special it's not the same as that show in that
01:33:41.440
town and it's really fun yeah and um you know for me like this tour it's been fun because i haven't
01:33:46.720
toured in a while so it's a lot of stuff has happened you know i've been married me and my
01:33:50.320
wife are trying to have a kid and to go back to the thing we're talking about of like doing too much like
01:33:55.360
the movies i feel like that comes from like i have an idea and i have this vision of it sounds
01:34:02.640
cheesy to say vision but i have a vision of something i want to execute and it's something i'm
01:34:06.000
really excited about i'm like racing to be on set to do like it could just be like i'm writing
01:34:09.600
something now and have this one scene i'm like oh man i just want to shoot that scene i like think
01:34:13.200
this would be so i gotta get there and it's a long time to get there movies are so slow you gotta work
01:34:18.240
with so many other people it's a nightmare but i do it because i really love films and and and i want
01:34:24.080
to make more films um but i do think i've realized recently like i've gotta calm down like i i think i've
01:34:30.880
overestimated my ability to work and and and as i get older you know you get burned out you get
01:34:37.600
stressed the stress builds i've seen friends that are burned out oh dude you're looking at one of
01:34:42.080
them we're not even friends but you're looking at somebody that's been burnt out but we could maybe
01:34:45.280
be friends i mean i i hope so dude we went we went deep here this is deeper than i went on any other
01:34:50.800
podcast we talked about some heavy stuff yeah in a great way i love it i mean oh yeah i think this is
01:34:56.000
so much we talk about a lot of this stuff on here it's important you know it's nice to like i really
01:34:59.760
i really like it but no i that burnout feeling it's like oh it's real i started shedding hair
01:35:05.760
recently dude we had a freaking retired boston detective with some of the craziest stories found
01:35:10.240
a wiener on the sidewalk and it was like a real whodunit or whatever um obviously the person missing
01:35:15.920
the wiener did it but uh so it was pretty kind of easy it wasn't like knives out actually it was like
01:35:21.360
knives out it's a long story but um anyway oh shit i forgot what i was talking about we're talking
01:35:26.720
about like just the burnout oh yeah the burnout is real that happens dude yeah started shedding
01:35:30.000
hair all that kind of stuff it's tough to say no too because you know you're having a moment right
01:35:34.160
now and i've had a moment and you know people start telling you to do all this stuff and no one on your
01:35:40.080
side of the business is gonna be like dude you gotta you gotta chill you gotta take some rest no one
01:35:44.960
ever says that like well that's a great opportunity you should you should do it and you're like well
01:35:48.320
that's a great opportunity i should do it and when i was younger i could do all that stuff when
01:35:52.400
i look back at schedules and stuff i did i'm like how did i do all this i can't do it anymore at this
01:35:57.440
age it's it's a different thing and and i'm married now it's like i've been away from my wife a lot and
01:36:02.000
it's it's not i don't feel nice about it sometimes and well look i have a suggestion that'll help you
01:36:07.840
relax go watch good fortune go to your go with your wife i'm not even joking go sit and watch it
01:36:16.960
watch it you don't like it you guys will laugh you'll get to spend some time together it's good
01:36:21.040
i do know it's out october 17th i do want to remind everybody about that um yeah thank you i feel lucky
01:36:26.000
you get to be in london one of my uh favorite musicians james blake lives over there dermot
01:36:30.320
kennedy is a is a um he's in the united kingdom he's a guy that i really love um who uh who actually
01:36:38.400
is coming in town soon um yeah i would love to get to live over there sometimes people feel very
01:36:43.360
it's nice you're a little bit i mean you probably feel this here too like you're a little bit away
01:36:47.120
from the circus oh yeah i feel totally good and the circus is dissolved the circus is it's a different
01:36:52.640
thing you don't really need to be there anymore they're finding new places there's new mini circuses
01:36:56.080
popping up yeah yeah but then but yeah but is nashville becoming a circus no i don't think so
01:37:00.320
not too much it still feels kind of small there's a lot of people moving here and a lot of stuff going
01:37:03.360
on but it still feels pretty small no i mean i feel like that in london that i'm away from things
01:37:07.280
whenever i go back to la i start feeling like oh my god i'm falling behind i need to do this
01:37:11.120
because you hear about it oh i've just made this i'm working on i'm like oh shit what am i doing
01:37:14.800
i'm not doing anything you've done so much dude i mean from all from television to um i know you
01:37:20.720
had that series i watched for laws on netflix it was just you yeah yeah that was master of none yeah
01:37:25.360
yeah um the book that you wrote i know about dating and like the struggling of love yeah um you've done
01:37:31.200
you've done let me tell you this if nobody ever tells you you've done enough no but finishing the
01:37:36.800
movie is a big deal and i'm glad i did it because it took a minute to get it done and and i'm really
01:37:41.920
proud of it and proud of the work that i did my my whole team did all the actors did and i'd love to
01:37:48.320
make more but yeah i definitely i hear you and um it's you've done a lot that's what i mean i didn't
01:37:54.320
know if i didn't mean no no no i know i know you mean i appreciate it yeah and i think uh
01:37:59.760
yeah and your sister would be so proud of you what was her name again i want to say
01:38:02.240
nafees nafees yeah oh it's such a pretty name how do you spell it n-a-f-e-e-z ooh nafees um i'm so
01:38:10.000
glad we we talked about that because i i i feel like i'm here with some people that work with me
01:38:14.720
and they're like wait what because i think when we say people's names out loud people that have been
01:38:19.040
a part of our lives like even when we're talking about like if you wanted to say something illusion
01:38:22.960
i think when when when we say people's names they feel that wherever they are that is a felt thing
01:38:28.320
because otherwise why would we feel it you know it's it's bringing their it's it's it's putting
01:38:32.880
them in the yeah and i believe it's like yeah i believe they feel it wherever they are they feel
01:38:38.080
it you know i think you definitely if you're here for this long you definitely keep an anchor locked
01:38:41.520
in i mean the other person i was going to mention and tell me we can we if you i don't want you to
01:38:46.080
run late for whatever but the other person i was thinking of when i was talking about lucian
01:38:50.240
was have you ever heard of manny that ran the comedy cellar manny dorman was the owner of the
01:38:55.280
comedy cellar his son gnome's there now um but he oh yeah i know gnome yeah yeah so gnome's dad is
01:39:01.840
manny okay first time i ever did comedy was uh at the comedy cellar they had a they had a new talent
01:39:10.560
night which doesn't even exist anymore now they just have like 10 comedy sellers and 10 shows like
01:39:15.040
but this was like back in the day they had a new talent night at like six o'clock and you'd bring like
01:39:20.160
a couple of friends and they'd give you stage time and i did that and i was 18 years old summer
01:39:26.880
of my freshman year in college didn't do good at i i did well my material was terrible but i did well
01:39:33.280
because i was very comfortable on stage and public speaking and i was just kind of funny and it worked
01:39:37.840
and and i came back and did it again and i did a couple of open mics and you know had a reality
01:39:44.320
check like oh fuck this is really hard and then um the third time i did stand up third time i ever
01:39:51.760
did stand up was again at the comedy cellar and it was one of these new talent nights and i for some
01:40:00.640
reason this crowd and me it just it i was go well no no went super well oh fuck all your stories
01:40:08.160
and they go good but uh and and they went nuts and i like said something at the end i was like oh
01:40:15.440
by the way like whenever we perform here we have to bring a certain number of friends i'm i i i i'm i'm
01:40:20.720
i'm running out of friends so if you want to come like come see say hi backstage and and or whatever
01:40:26.400
you know and and i was just being serious and they're they they were all just losing it and manny
01:40:31.440
saw this and he said like you're yeah there's manny and he goes you're he basically came up and
01:40:38.880
it was like some old hollywood thing he was like you're ready for the big room i'd done stand up like
01:40:43.360
three times there's no way i was ready to perform at the hardest comedy and this is like
01:40:50.000
comedy cellar where it's like a tell giraldo jim norton he's like you're ready for the big room
01:40:56.080
and uh and so i would show up there and and uh they would put me on late at night almost like a
01:41:03.920
late night they would and it was like really odd because i i probably i shouldn't have been doing
01:41:09.040
it i was just so green and i was doing it and eventually you know sd uh sd who's the you know
01:41:16.880
famously runs a comedy cellar passes comics she's like okay let's you go on and i went on and she was
01:41:22.720
like yeah you you can't be performing here yeah she's like you can't be can't be doing this she's
01:41:29.360
fucking tough i was like a little kid she was like you can't you can't be doing this you're not ready
01:41:34.560
and i was like okay and and then um you know now again one of the you know emmy mass square garden
01:41:44.800
whatever like this to me is the coolest thing is that i can perform at the comedy cellar and just drop in
01:41:52.720
and they'll just let me do material yeah and and perform and then the crowd goes nuts and knows
01:41:58.400
who i am that's the craziest thing that's crazy that's like kind of above everything else and my
01:42:03.200
biggest dream i've told people is like that i'm just like 90 years old and i drop it into the comedy
01:42:08.480
cellar and maybe a couple of people know who i am but that i'm able to fucking hold my own but anyway
01:42:14.480
i i was there at the comedy cellar one night and me and s you were talking about this and she was like
01:42:18.640
you know man manny saw you whenever you were really young and and he must be up there smiling
01:42:24.640
now seeing all you've done and uh yeah that that uh that made me smile and um i i wasn't super super
01:42:33.840
close with manny but um but he was another guy before lucian oddly even saw me and just said something
01:42:41.200
what's a reminder i think for anybody that has a has been in a field for a while of when you take a moment to
01:42:46.160
connect with somebody that's just coming into it you know that it could have an effect you know
01:42:50.960
that's a nice reminder it means the world to him and you don't realize because i think we're all like
01:42:55.120
good yeah we're all in our own head and don't realize i mean yeah especially when you're young
01:42:59.040
there's one person having to believe like oh good job just little things like that and i'm still
01:43:04.000
grateful uh it reminded me that neil brennan and amy schumer are the ones that helped me get past at
01:43:08.640
the comedy cellar oh wow and i've only performed there like probably six seven times maybe ten but i walked
01:43:14.000
in the other night and i was so nervous like you want to go up i was like no way i'm not freaking
01:43:17.680
going up dude but i think some of that's just places you used to be in you know so um aziz i
01:43:23.280
gotta go man thank you so much oh man this was such a great conversation i i um i really enjoyed it
01:43:30.960
and and we talked about so many uh interesting things uh and um and and really some some heavy
01:43:36.880
stuff but i i thought it was great and i'm so glad we had the opportunity to do it i appreciate it
01:43:41.120
man i think it's exciting that you get to live in london and have a new experience it sounds like
01:43:44.960
you've had a lot of unique experiences and that's like that's such a gift you know um god's had a lot
01:43:50.560
of grace it seems like in your whole just like ability to be creative and like man thank you for
01:43:56.560
sharing that with us oh thanks man thank you for having me you bet and best of luck with the film
01:44:00.560
dude i'll out october 17th so this week i think and uh all right everybody be good thanks so much
01:44:07.120
now i'm just floating on the breeze and i feel i'm falling like these leaves i must be cornerstone
01:44:18.080
oh but when i reach that ground i'll share this peace of mind i found i can feel it in my bones