This Past Weekend with Theo Von - #618

00:00:00.580 Today's guests are some young paranormal explorers.

00:00:04.340 They're those boo babies, you feel me?

00:00:06.300 Them spook lurkers.

00:00:08.840 And they're here today.

00:00:09.820 They've amassed a huge following on YouTube,

00:00:11.920 over 13 million subscribers.

00:00:13.800 They've been to some of the scariest places on the planet.

00:00:19.400 I'm looking forward to learning about that

00:00:22.460 and getting my Halloween up.

00:00:25.220 Today's guests are Sam and Colby.

00:00:30.000 I know me, and I will find a song.

00:00:36.760 I've been singing just before.

00:00:44.960 Sam and Colby, thank you guys for coming in, man.

00:00:47.400 Thanks for having us.

00:00:48.480 Yeah, I appreciate it, dude.

00:00:49.700 We're stoked.

00:00:50.260 Or like Ouija lurkers.

00:00:51.740 What do people call you guys?

00:00:53.000 Is it like Spirit Hunters, Paranormal Amiga?

00:00:58.700 What do you guys call yourselves?

00:01:04.120 Is it like Ghost Hunters?

00:01:05.200 What is it?

00:01:05.840 Honestly, we should go with that one for sure.

00:01:08.080 We should rename our channel to just Paranormal Amigos from now on.

00:01:11.260 Seance Monkeys, maybe?

00:01:12.480 I'm just trying to think.

00:01:13.580 Yeah.

00:01:13.920 I mean, that's way cooler than just saying Ghost Hunters.

00:01:16.100 Most people just call us Ghost Hunters,

00:01:17.560 but honestly, we're just like two dudes with a camera.

00:01:20.460 Like, we just kind of like document everything that happens to us.

00:01:23.720 We're not experts at all.

00:01:24.760 We don't know what we're doing,

00:01:25.640 so we just like go into these haunted places with a camera,

00:01:27.840 just us two and a couple guests, and see what happens.

00:01:29.900 I wish we were psychics and mediums,

00:01:31.580 but we can't channel them, you know what I'm saying?

00:01:33.260 Not that cool.

00:01:34.560 It's almost like Ghostbusters,

00:01:37.320 but like community college kind of.

00:01:39.360 Yeah, dude, exactly.

00:01:40.980 That's hilarious.

00:01:41.700 That's fair to say.

00:01:42.660 Like the off-brand TV Ghost Hunters.

00:01:44.900 Exactly.

00:01:45.940 No, it's fun.

00:01:46.640 Like, that's honestly, that is part of the adventure,

00:01:48.540 so we have no idea what would happen.

00:01:49.840 Like, sometimes it's the craziest thing we've ever seen,

00:01:52.140 and then sometimes like just nothing happens.

00:01:53.940 We're shooting the shit with our friends,

00:01:55.160 which is also like super fun, too.

00:01:56.700 Yeah.

00:01:57.380 You guys have 15 million subs on YouTube now.

00:02:01.200 How many people live in your hometown?

00:02:03.700 Oh, my God.

00:02:04.380 Maybe like less than 100,000.

00:02:06.020 So it's like so bizarre to think about.

00:02:08.160 Yeah, we're from Kansas.

00:02:09.800 So like small town Kansas to like all this stuff,

00:02:13.140 it's definitely a wild experience for sure.

00:02:14.600 So 150 of your hometowns,

00:02:17.160 is that how many followers you have?

00:02:19.460 All coming together.

00:02:20.220 It's wild to think about.

00:02:21.480 Like, it's still surreal to this day.

00:02:23.120 Like we, like you were saying,

00:02:24.440 like we grew up in like a small town,

00:02:25.900 like suburbs of Kansas City.

00:02:27.260 So like moving out to like LA and Vegas

00:02:28.940 has been a wild change for us.

00:02:31.140 And we did it just after like high school, too.

00:02:33.260 So at 18, we didn't know anybody.

00:02:35.120 It just shows how many people

00:02:36.240 are really interested in like spirits

00:02:38.460 and like afterlife.

00:02:39.620 I mean, I'm sure like every single person

00:02:41.040 as a human is like always wondering

00:02:42.740 what happens after I die.

00:02:44.080 I don't know if you believe in ghosts or not,

00:02:45.560 but like you've probably had that question

00:02:47.080 of like what does happen, you know?

00:02:49.080 Like is it possible to communicate

00:02:50.620 with like your loved ones and stuff?

00:02:52.560 Yeah, well, I think it's one thing

00:02:53.360 that we all have in common, right?

00:02:54.600 I think it's one thing that it's like,

00:02:55.980 it's that one question

00:02:57.060 that none of us can answer.

00:02:58.400 Right.

00:02:58.500 And then also I think like that,

00:03:00.620 a lot of people think that like ghost hunting

00:03:02.360 kind of died a little bit

00:03:03.580 because it was kind of this older thing

00:03:05.200 that was more popular.

00:03:06.140 Like, and then when a lot of technology

00:03:09.180 really started popping off,

00:03:10.880 I think people thought like,

00:03:12.900 oh, well, nobody's seeing ghosts anymore as much.

00:03:15.480 You know, people thought you'd see them

00:03:16.560 more on cell phones and stuff.

00:03:17.920 But since nobody's seeing,

00:03:19.160 I think people, it kind of,

00:03:21.500 I remember like five or six years ago

00:03:22.800 being like, dude, where are all the fucking ghosts?

00:03:24.680 Where did they go?

00:03:25.860 Yeah, you'd think if every single person

00:03:27.300 had a camera,

00:03:28.420 like they would have clear evidence

00:03:30.500 of spirits, you know?

00:03:31.620 Mad ghost, dude.

00:03:31.860 You see Casper every day

00:03:33.060 just hanging out with us.

00:03:33.920 Yeah, you see just stacks of ghosts.

00:03:35.520 You'd see like just a bunch of boo orgies

00:03:38.560 and shit popping off.

00:03:39.800 It's not like that, man.

00:03:42.260 It's the opposite.

00:03:42.860 We've had a couple of boo orgies, so.

00:03:44.500 Yeah, have you ever seen,

00:03:47.440 oh, have we?

00:03:48.500 Yeah, I said.

00:03:49.700 I wasn't there for that one.

00:03:51.160 I was like, oh, really?

00:03:51.560 I was unconscious during that, excuse me.

00:03:53.380 Hopefully not.

00:03:53.920 Um, just so our listeners know,

00:03:55.660 like, so what you guys met in?

00:03:58.440 We met in Kansas in high school.

00:04:00.220 Okay.

00:04:00.420 So like we were like 14 years old.

00:04:02.560 Yeah.

00:04:02.880 We met in band camp in a.

00:04:05.080 Typical story.

00:04:05.880 High school.

00:04:06.500 And then we're also like, yo,

00:04:07.520 like we don't want to end up

00:04:09.100 like all the other kids in Kansas,

00:04:10.620 you know, just doing the same old,

00:04:11.820 like go to college,

00:04:12.880 get nine to five, whatever.

00:04:13.960 That was fine.

00:04:14.680 Like go do your thing.

00:04:15.940 But we just really didn't think

00:04:16.980 that was for us.

00:04:17.760 So do you remember the first time

00:04:19.640 that you saw each other?

00:04:21.560 Oh, that was super romantic.

00:04:22.960 Yeah.

00:04:23.300 I was at a coffee shop in seventh grade.

00:04:25.200 That does make it sound very romantic.

00:04:27.780 Sorry.

00:04:28.220 No, believe it or not.

00:04:29.180 I actually do remember

00:04:30.220 the first time.

00:04:31.000 Really?

00:04:31.180 I think you remember this too

00:04:32.280 when I tell the story,

00:04:33.140 but like it was in middle school.

00:04:34.900 So we were like, yeah,

00:04:35.740 actually like 12 or 13

00:04:36.660 or something like that.

00:04:37.380 And each month there would be

00:04:39.160 like these awards

00:04:40.060 that the students could earn

00:04:41.640 or whatever or get.

00:04:43.260 Like, for example, best dressed

00:04:44.720 or like Sam, for example,

00:04:46.800 won the best haircut

00:04:48.320 of like the month

00:04:49.400 or something like that.

00:04:50.660 I could see that.

00:04:51.340 Yeah.

00:04:52.140 And so when he like walked

00:04:53.200 over the stage,

00:04:53.760 I was like, that guy,

00:04:54.520 he does have really cool hair.

00:04:56.520 That was the first time.

00:04:57.340 And the rest was history.

00:04:58.460 He's got that Mormon front waterfall

00:05:00.240 going on.

00:05:01.020 I mean, he's got that beautiful.

00:05:02.500 It's yeah,

00:05:02.820 he can make mittens out of that.

00:05:04.100 That's what I'm saying.

00:05:04.960 That's beautiful.

00:05:06.340 But you remember that.

00:05:07.760 Of course.

00:05:08.240 He won the award.

00:05:09.180 He won the award.

00:05:10.000 And I was just like,

00:05:10.660 I have to be friends with this guy.

00:05:12.560 Maybe even start a Vine account

00:05:13.840 eventually.

00:05:14.500 There we go.

00:05:15.480 Yeah.

00:05:15.860 Colby's the one like knew

00:05:17.120 of Vine and YouTube and stuff.

00:05:19.040 I was not into all that stuff.

00:05:20.120 But then he was like,

00:05:20.880 dude, there are people right now

00:05:22.540 making Vine videos

00:05:23.760 and stupid videos

00:05:24.480 at their mall

00:05:25.060 that are getting millions of views.

00:05:26.780 And like no one's like in on this.

00:05:28.480 And so we just decided

00:05:29.320 to like go for it

00:05:30.340 because we were like,

00:05:30.920 I don't want to live forever

00:05:32.300 just in Kansas

00:05:32.980 doing the normal route

00:05:34.320 and let's try it.

00:05:35.660 We didn't even know

00:05:36.340 there was a career

00:05:36.960 or like money to be made out of it.

00:05:38.580 But I just like looked up

00:05:40.140 to a lot of people

00:05:40.740 on social media

00:05:41.440 that I was like,

00:05:42.080 come on,

00:05:42.340 we can like do this

00:05:43.500 if we really try.

00:05:44.460 And then he saw the vision

00:05:45.480 once like things started picking up.

00:05:47.700 Yeah.

00:05:47.980 Just to do content,

00:05:49.440 just to do content.

00:05:50.280 I was like,

00:05:50.700 oh, I don't know.

00:05:51.900 A hundred percent.

00:05:52.640 But like once I saw like,

00:05:54.020 oh, like this could be

00:05:55.700 our way to have a voice.

00:05:56.700 This is our way to get out of Kansas.

00:05:58.040 This is our way to travel

00:05:58.860 and meet cool people,

00:05:59.660 all these different things,

00:06:00.460 build a business.

00:06:01.020 It was like,

00:06:01.440 oh, wait, let's go.

00:06:02.480 Wow.

00:06:02.680 And so we like kind of locked in

00:06:04.400 on senior year of high school.

00:06:05.920 And I remember our parents were like,

00:06:07.320 yo, if you get X amount of dollars,

00:06:09.400 we'll allow you to take a gap year

00:06:11.160 instead of go to college.

00:06:12.440 If you earn that many dollars

00:06:13.520 in a year?

00:06:14.440 It was like,

00:06:14.900 I don't know,

00:06:15.360 $15,000 or something.

00:06:16.740 And like,

00:06:17.260 because that would be enough

00:06:17.980 for a couple months rent in LA.

00:06:19.400 And it's like,

00:06:19.960 okay,

00:06:20.220 well then we had it on our whiteboard

00:06:21.440 and like,

00:06:21.840 you know,

00:06:22.040 we check off the amount of money

00:06:23.380 we're making on senior year.

00:06:24.700 Like, okay.

00:06:25.300 Post everyday live stream

00:06:26.620 every single day.

00:06:27.420 Like we were on grind mode.

00:06:29.240 And yeah,

00:06:29.680 again,

00:06:30.200 being from Kansas,

00:06:31.080 like there was nothing to do really

00:06:32.220 besides going to school.

00:06:32.560 Was there haters around the village?

00:06:33.740 Like,

00:06:33.860 was there haters in the branches

00:06:35.080 of the local trees?

00:06:36.720 Like,

00:06:36.820 was it like that?

00:06:37.700 For sure.

00:06:38.420 Yeah.

00:06:38.580 No,

00:06:38.780 our own high school

00:06:40.060 like didn't like us.

00:06:42.140 This was like also during the time

00:06:44.080 when social media wasn't very popular,

00:06:45.560 but yeah,

00:06:45.880 we get called in to like principal office.

00:06:47.700 We're like,

00:06:47.920 what are you guys doing?

00:06:48.480 I'm fine.

00:06:49.060 Like,

00:06:49.240 this is not cool.

00:06:49.920 We don't want you guys

00:06:50.480 representing our school like this.

00:06:51.840 And I was like,

00:06:52.420 also we started like with public disturbance.

00:06:55.320 So we'd go to our local mall

00:06:57.020 and like jump off like tables

00:06:59.020 and like ride couches up escalators

00:07:02.200 to stupid stuff.

00:07:03.340 Yeah.

00:07:03.500 I saw y'all following some fats at the mall.

00:07:05.460 Oh yeah.

00:07:05.920 We don't do that anymore.

00:07:07.160 We don't do that anymore.

00:07:07.740 Hey,

00:07:07.980 look,

00:07:08.360 dude.

00:07:09.080 We live and we learn.

00:07:10.200 All right.

00:07:10.840 Hey,

00:07:11.240 man,

00:07:11.760 my stepmother's fat.

00:07:13.060 All right.

00:07:13.360 All right.

00:07:13.560 Well,

00:07:14.380 she doesn't know it,

00:07:15.180 but anyway,

00:07:18.020 sorry.

00:07:18.280 I'm just joking around.

00:07:19.760 But,

00:07:20.120 but,

00:07:20.520 but at a certain point,

00:07:21.700 you guys sort of pivoted to

00:07:23.220 checking out abandoned places,

00:07:25.000 right?

00:07:25.600 Yeah.

00:07:25.940 And then now it's become more haunted spots.

00:07:28.400 What made you switch from just like,

00:07:30.180 oh shit,

00:07:31.580 just shit,

00:07:32.380 just being abandoned isn't enough.

00:07:34.080 Right.

00:07:34.860 Cause I'm,

00:07:35.440 we need more.

00:07:36.700 We used to be scared of spiders.

00:07:38.280 Now we're scared of spiders and ghosts.

00:07:40.580 But what makes you be like,

00:07:42.040 Hey bro,

00:07:43.040 there's nobody in this dark room.

00:07:46.280 Let's bring them in and summon them.

00:07:48.900 Let's light up a Ouija board.

00:07:50.260 Yeah.

00:07:50.380 What makes you,

00:07:51.020 what makes that kind of like,

00:07:52.960 yeah.

00:07:53.160 How do you get there?

00:07:53.880 What makes you make that turn?

00:07:54.920 Well,

00:07:55.340 to be completely honest with you,

00:07:56.860 we started doing the abandoned stuff in like 2017,

00:07:59.460 2018.

00:08:00.720 Um,

00:08:01.180 and yeah,

00:08:02.180 we were legally doing like pretty much all of our videos back in the day and we got arrested.

00:08:06.980 So like in 2019,

00:08:08.240 like,

00:08:08.960 Oh,

00:08:09.080 so you're over to showing up places.

00:08:10.300 Yeah.

00:08:11.200 We would just be like,

00:08:11.960 okay,

00:08:12.180 like there's this abandoned asylum.

00:08:14.060 Let's try to figure a way in and figure a way out without getting caught.

00:08:17.000 And it was really like fun.

00:08:18.780 I mean,

00:08:19.100 that's exhilarating,

00:08:20.460 but there's a cameo time that we actually got caught and we're like,

00:08:23.660 Oh,

00:08:23.960 well,

00:08:24.320 you know,

00:08:24.860 uh,

00:08:25.840 we can't do this as much anymore.

00:08:27.420 But luckily,

00:08:28.400 like about a year prior to that,

00:08:30.320 we had started going to some,

00:08:32.680 some places that were had like haunted lore.

00:08:35.000 Right.

00:08:35.320 And we were like,

00:08:35.800 I don't really believe in this stuff.

00:08:37.440 Like actually like both of us were very,

00:08:38.860 very skeptical of anything haunted ghost related before we started.

00:08:42.640 Um,

00:08:43.000 and we thought it would be great.

00:08:44.200 Like let's do this abandoned stuff.

00:08:45.860 But like,

00:08:46.580 let's see if there's a ghost there.

00:08:47.680 That's funny.

00:08:48.140 And like,

00:08:48.500 you know,

00:08:48.720 it's probably not just a dark building,

00:08:50.120 but it'll be great for content.

00:08:51.680 But then things started happening and it was like,

00:08:54.640 wait,

00:08:55.840 what,

00:08:56.060 what actually was that?

00:08:57.320 What was that voice?

00:08:58.060 What was that slam?

00:08:58.900 What was that door that just like,

00:09:00.360 you know,

00:09:00.700 crash in front of me and then have it over and over and over again.

00:09:03.880 And we're like,

00:09:04.220 wait,

00:09:04.800 this might actually be real.

00:09:06.220 And then we went to this place called the Queen Mary in Long Beach.

00:09:09.480 I don't know if you ever heard of it.

00:09:09.960 Oh yeah.

00:09:10.300 It's an old,

00:09:10.920 it's an old ship,

00:09:11.860 right?

00:09:12.020 Have you been before?

00:09:13.420 Yeah.

00:09:13.680 I think we did a,

00:09:14.520 I think I did comedy on it.

00:09:16.220 Oh wow.

00:09:16.900 That's awesome.

00:09:17.860 Yeah.

00:09:18.000 I mean,

00:09:18.200 it's a,

00:09:18.520 it's a huge hotel and it's awesome.

00:09:20.640 I'll have some bad jokes on that AMF.

00:09:23.280 So if one of those showed up,

00:09:25.280 that was me.

00:09:26.000 Okay.

00:09:26.480 Yeah.

00:09:26.660 For sure.

00:09:27.060 If you heard people booing,

00:09:28.200 that was,

00:09:28.600 that wasn't a ghost.

00:09:29.400 That was just audience people.

00:09:30.800 Yeah.

00:09:31.100 Yeah.

00:09:32.140 That's great.

00:09:33.720 But yeah,

00:09:34.320 we had like such a crazy experience.

00:09:36.620 And you really did.

00:09:37.300 You're really having these experiences.

00:09:38.440 Like you're really,

00:09:40.200 you,

00:09:40.620 this is real.

00:09:41.200 Yeah.

00:09:41.420 1000%.

00:09:42.360 Well,

00:09:42.740 the entire time,

00:09:43.580 like we didn't really like,

00:09:46.220 we didn't believe.

00:09:47.300 So like,

00:09:47.620 we were like,

00:09:48.040 let's,

00:09:48.380 let's test it.

00:09:49.000 Cause like,

00:09:49.400 actually it would be kind of cool if there was something,

00:09:51.380 you know,

00:09:51.660 it would be really fun.

00:09:52.700 And so like at this time we were skeptical,

00:09:55.180 but we wanted something to happen.

00:09:56.660 And then at the night of the Queen Mary,

00:09:59.340 even at,

00:10:00.100 we kind of gave up,

00:10:00.940 we actually did this entire video and nothing really happened all night.

00:10:05.900 And then at the very,

00:10:06.960 very end of the night turned off cameras and we're like,

00:10:09.840 well,

00:10:09.940 that was a horrible video,

00:10:11.180 but let's just try it one more time for the rest of the night.

00:10:13.240 It was like 4 a.m.

00:10:14.460 And then slowly stuff started happening off camera.

00:10:18.200 And this is like how real it is for me.

00:10:20.360 It's like,

00:10:20.680 if it was just for content,

00:10:22.060 we just turn on the cameras and like try to like capture it.

00:10:24.260 But instead we just like sat there and tried to have a conversation with a

00:10:29.120 spirit.

00:10:29.580 And that night completely changed my life.

00:10:32.380 It made me religious.

00:10:33.460 It made me like want to get to those whole spiritualist thing.

00:10:36.180 And I,

00:10:36.920 you know,

00:10:37.600 we talked about this many times after being like,

00:10:39.740 okay,

00:10:40.280 screw this abandoned stuff.

00:10:41.680 I want to know the answer.

00:10:42.600 Like,

00:10:42.940 this is not just for content anymore.

00:10:44.020 This is like,

00:10:44.860 this is beautiful.

00:10:45.700 If it's actually like out there,

00:10:47.560 if there is something on the other side,

00:10:49.780 I want to know.

00:10:50.680 And so that dove us into this whole like career over the last five,

00:10:54.120 seven years.

00:10:54.780 Wow,

00:10:55.160 man,

00:10:55.900 as you're building that up there,

00:10:57.460 as you're telling me that even when you were starting,

00:10:59.600 just kind of that parable there are starting that,

00:11:02.000 like when you were starting to share there,

00:11:04.520 it made me think of like faith.

00:11:06.380 It's like,

00:11:06.980 you know,

00:11:07.460 you,

00:11:07.880 you,

00:11:08.500 you think there's nothing there.

00:11:10.260 Right.

00:11:11.160 And,

00:11:11.580 and something shows up.

00:11:13.000 Right.

00:11:13.280 And like you're saying,

00:11:14.100 like you were hoping something,

00:11:15.300 but,

00:11:15.960 but nothing had occurred.

00:11:17.360 Right.

00:11:17.740 And it's kind of the same thing with faith.

00:11:19.260 Like even,

00:11:19.700 you know,

00:11:20.180 for people that are religious or have believe in some sort of higher power,

00:11:24.120 it's,

00:11:25.460 you have to meet it halfway.

00:11:27.100 Right.

00:11:27.580 So just the fact that you guys showed up willing to meet whatever could be out there,

00:11:34.200 you know,

00:11:35.340 and,

00:11:35.880 and then whatever's out there,

00:11:37.100 sometimes the way it shows up could be positive,

00:11:40.220 but maybe the way we interpret it too,

00:11:41.980 is,

00:11:42.160 is like scary to us because it's coming from a place that we can't understand.

00:11:46.500 Very,

00:11:46.980 very true.

00:11:47.380 And I mean,

00:11:47.700 when we first started,

00:11:49.400 I mean,

00:11:49.720 my entire life I've,

00:11:50.680 I've been Christian.

00:11:51.360 So like we first started with this like Queen Mary,

00:11:54.280 like experience.

00:11:54.900 And for Sam,

00:11:55.720 like he was saying,

00:11:56.300 it was something where he didn't believe in anything.

00:11:58.620 Fuck.

00:11:58.820 I didn't know this.

00:11:59.880 Yeah.

00:12:00.060 But I,

00:12:00.460 I've always been born and raised Christian.

00:12:02.100 And so for me,

00:12:02.900 it was more of just like a hopeful thing.

00:12:05.440 That's like securing my beliefs,

00:12:07.120 I guess you could say.

00:12:08.440 Um,

00:12:08.800 so it really just depends on the person,

00:12:11.220 but anybody can take the parent paranormal,

00:12:13.260 like however they want,

00:12:14.680 depending on what they believe in the personal life.

00:12:16.800 But you're right.

00:12:17.280 It's so much more of like putting yourself out there and meeting something

00:12:20.220 halfway,

00:12:20.760 whether that be in a religious sense or as we do.

00:12:23.240 And like the paranormal world,

00:12:24.560 it's like so many people go out there and they're so closed off.

00:12:27.420 Like they're skeptical.

00:12:28.180 I'm sure tons of people watching this right now are super skeptical,

00:12:30.500 but yeah,

00:12:31.460 I was one of them a little while ago.

00:12:32.900 Yeah.

00:12:33.600 And,

00:12:33.920 but if you go into a haunted house and you're super skeptical and you don't

00:12:36.880 think something's going to happen,

00:12:37.840 same thing with faith.

00:12:38.540 You're,

00:12:38.860 you're never going to get it.

00:12:39.940 But like when we turn off the cameras and we actually like actually,

00:12:43.740 okay,

00:12:44.200 I just want something to be there.

00:12:45.480 I'm willing to,

00:12:46.540 to really believe and put myself there.

00:12:48.760 That's when things started happening.

00:12:50.160 And that's what we always advise that people to do.

00:12:52.060 And when they go into these haunted places,

00:12:54.000 put yourself out there,

00:12:55.420 take a risk,

00:12:56.000 you know?

00:12:56.580 Yeah.

00:12:56.940 It's dude,

00:12:57.420 it's so funny.

00:12:57.960 It brings me back to like when I was a kid and like,

00:13:00.200 that's one thing that is amazing about kids.

00:13:02.200 It's like,

00:13:02.840 especially like ghosts and kids,

00:13:05.240 like when they're like,

00:13:06.460 you know,

00:13:06.660 even till like 15,

00:13:08.200 16,

00:13:08.360 different ages.

00:13:09.200 But when you,

00:13:10.380 when you have that youthful energy,

00:13:11.820 you're so like right there on the edge of the moment.

00:13:14.560 That's something can meet it.

00:13:16.240 Like something small can meet you right there really easily.

00:13:19.460 It's pretty,

00:13:19.940 so willing to believe.

00:13:21.080 Yes.

00:13:21.360 You know,

00:13:21.800 it's such an amazing time.

00:13:23.640 Yeah.

00:13:23.900 Yeah.

00:13:24.200 And that's why like children have so many more experiences because they're less

00:13:27.400 closed off.

00:13:28.160 They're less like,

00:13:28.720 I don't know,

00:13:29.600 jaded to the world,

00:13:30.460 you know?

00:13:31.120 Oh,

00:13:31.440 it's so true,

00:13:32.100 dude.

00:13:32.460 Now,

00:13:32.740 if a ghost showed up,

00:13:33.820 it'd be literally just like,

00:13:35.220 you know,

00:13:36.600 all right,

00:13:37.220 you know,

00:13:37.780 can you come back later?

00:13:38.980 I'd probably be like,

00:13:39.960 I'm busy.

00:13:41.280 All right.

00:13:41.440 I got some shit to do,

00:13:42.400 you know?

00:13:43.080 Yeah.

00:13:43.760 People could beg for like somebody to come from the afterlife that they love.

00:13:47.520 And then they hear a weird knock at the door in the middle of the night.

00:13:50.220 And instead they call the police instead of go open it up.

00:13:53.540 Like,

00:13:53.740 what are you talking about your grandfather?

00:13:56.140 Come on,

00:13:56.680 go have that conversation.

00:13:57.580 But it is,

00:13:58.240 it's just interesting that like how perception and belief can meet together to frame what

00:14:03.280 your experience can be.

00:14:04.280 Right.

00:14:04.920 Exactly.

00:14:05.760 Yeah.

00:14:06.100 And that's kind of why,

00:14:06.960 why we do it now.

00:14:07.860 Like we definitely now believe we've had so many experiences over the last like seven

00:14:12.140 years that have proved to us that we're not the only things out there.

00:14:15.600 Yeah.

00:14:15.900 But especially me,

00:14:17.640 I was at a place where I thought it was all blackness.

00:14:20.720 After you,

00:14:21.040 after you die,

00:14:21.640 it was nothing.

00:14:22.600 It was so hopeless that when I found that spark of like,

00:14:26.680 wait,

00:14:27.020 there could be something more.

00:14:28.300 It was like my version of finding religion.

00:14:31.600 It was my,

00:14:32.480 my version of finding hope.

00:14:34.220 And I was like,

00:14:35.080 wait a second,

00:14:35.640 if I can prove this to myself.

00:14:37.560 And now that I have over the last couple of years,

00:14:39.840 what if I could prove this to somebody else?

00:14:42.560 What if someone could watch one of our videos and walk away being like,

00:14:47.120 wait,

00:14:47.820 there is something more.

00:14:49.160 Maybe so.

00:14:49.820 And what if that changes their course of their life to maybe be a better person

00:14:53.320 or maybe be just more hopeful,

00:14:55.040 happy person.

00:14:55.860 Yeah.

00:14:56.080 And so like,

00:14:56.560 although we are like the spooky guys,

00:14:58.800 we're ghostbusters or whatever,

00:15:00.280 and we're trying to get something that's scary.

00:15:02.900 That scariness is super hopeful.

00:15:05.240 It's like very beautiful.

00:15:06.320 But we're also very inviting to just skeptics that won't or don't want to like

00:15:10.460 be open-minded about anything.

00:15:11.900 Like they can just watch our videos for entertainment.

00:15:13.760 So really just like you said,

00:15:15.400 it depends on the person and paranormal affects everybody in different ways,

00:15:20.160 depending on what you believe.

00:15:21.960 What?

00:15:22.360 Uh,

00:15:23.400 yeah,

00:15:23.640 this is interesting,

00:15:24.460 man.

00:15:24.560 I didn't,

00:15:25.000 I didn't even know if I expected this conversation to go like this,

00:15:27.780 but this is great.

00:15:29.220 Um,

00:15:29.740 I'd be curious.

00:15:30.760 Like,

00:15:31.220 what do you believe?

00:15:32.920 Well,

00:15:33.480 I've gotten to speak with people that have like,

00:15:35.720 we had a doctor on who is a cancer doctor and he had over the years,

00:15:40.940 he started doing,

00:15:42.220 he started interviewing people that had had near death experiences and just

00:15:45.980 collecting a lot of their data,

00:15:47.460 right?

00:15:47.680 Like a lot of the data and finding a lot of the commonalities in it.

00:15:50.840 Um,

00:15:51.700 and so once I spoke with him,

00:15:53.800 I started thinking like,

00:15:55.400 yeah,

00:15:55.620 this was him right there,

00:15:56.380 Dr.

00:15:56.600 Jeffrey long.

00:15:57.100 And he wrote a book about it and it's an easy read,

00:15:58.920 but it's,

00:15:59.960 um,

00:16:00.940 you could just tell how much it changed his life and his perspective that he

00:16:03.820 at no,

00:16:06.500 um,

00:16:07.400 at no fiscal reward,

00:16:08.720 he started creating this database and,

00:16:11.280 uh,

00:16:11.620 and just putting together all different people's accounts.

00:16:13.840 And it was just fascinating to see,

00:16:15.980 uh,

00:16:16.500 to see how many people that had the same experiences.

00:16:18.280 Right.

00:16:18.600 And so that gave me like,

00:16:20.260 okay,

00:16:21.260 if there's,

00:16:21.860 if enough of it's uniform here and the experiences are the same,

00:16:25.940 like that kind of shows a pattern obviously.

00:16:29.940 And it certainly starts to make you believe a little bit more.

00:16:32.460 Right.

00:16:32.780 And it's really,

00:16:33.620 it's like,

00:16:33.960 he couldn't really get to what's on the other side hype,

00:16:37.500 but you know,

00:16:37.800 the other side,

00:16:38.520 like if you go over to the other side,

00:16:41.020 whatever the other realm is,

00:16:42.040 but he,

00:16:42.920 he was able to kind of like through a great deal of interviews,

00:16:46.580 examine some of the stair steps that people do.

00:16:48.280 People were on,

00:16:49.460 um,

00:16:49.980 and what that experience was like.

00:16:51.440 And so that I think gave me almost a little bit more of like a,

00:16:54.940 really a scientific idea of like,

00:16:57.760 okay,

00:16:58.720 there's,

00:16:59.700 there's something more than just us guessing this.

00:17:03.140 Right.

00:17:03.560 So,

00:17:03.940 so that kind of was there for me.

00:17:05.940 I had like a DMT experience where it's like,

00:17:08.840 um,

00:17:09.520 you know,

00:17:09.960 some people use plant medicine.

00:17:11.380 I'm not encouraging that.

00:17:12.420 I know you guys have some younger viewers,

00:17:13.560 but that took you to a place where you feel like you were leaving for sure.

00:17:19.640 And that was pretty fascinating.

00:17:21.220 Like,

00:17:21.600 okay,

00:17:21.920 you felt like becoming this,

00:17:24.740 you felt yourself kind of leave your body and become this spirit that the only thing you could feel was love.

00:17:29.860 Like you couldn't feel anything else.

00:17:32.420 Um,

00:17:33.260 all the earthly chains of like people you knew and all of that.

00:17:36.120 And like,

00:17:36.760 I always feel like if I die,

00:17:37.800 I'm going to worry about them or there.

00:17:39.520 And there was a little bit of that,

00:17:40.920 but even that broke away.

00:17:42.020 The amount of like immense love that was present in your being,

00:17:45.820 as you were hypothetically leaving this body that we know was so immense and so great.

00:17:52.840 And you knew immediately,

00:17:54.400 Oh,

00:17:54.680 they'll be here again.

00:17:56.020 They'll all be here someday.

00:17:57.700 So no matter what they're feeling now,

00:17:59.660 this moment trumps,

00:18:01.080 whatever that is.

00:18:02.400 And so even though you couldn't remember anything that was going on in this like physical plane,

00:18:05.940 you still somehow had the thought that like you were supposed to be there.

00:18:08.800 Is that what you're saying?

00:18:09.780 Well,

00:18:09.900 you still somehow had the thought that like,

00:18:13.140 as it was happening,

00:18:14.120 you start to,

00:18:14.600 I felt like you literally start to feel like you're leaving your body and you start to like,

00:18:19.420 my first thoughts are like,

00:18:20.440 you're still attached to a lot of your like worldly thoughts.

00:18:22.300 Like,

00:18:22.900 Oh,

00:18:23.120 my mom's going to miss me.

00:18:24.260 I'm scared.

00:18:25.260 Um,

00:18:25.620 I forgot to do this.

00:18:26.980 I forgot to send that email.

00:18:28.240 That was like one of my thoughts.

00:18:29.360 Oh man.

00:18:30.400 Who gives a shit?

00:18:32.620 You're dead.

00:18:33.300 The crisis of life.

00:18:34.280 Yeah.

00:18:34.860 You forgot to send it.

00:18:36.220 Email.

00:18:36.940 Oh,

00:18:37.320 I should've let the dog out or whatever.

00:18:38.860 Oh man.

00:18:39.160 I left those shoes on the porch.

00:18:40.500 Little things like that were like kind of going in my head.

00:18:43.100 But then it was like this,

00:18:44.720 you became overwhelmed with this feeling of like so much love.

00:18:48.120 Um,

00:18:48.720 and the only thing you were supposed to do while you were alive was love and everything

00:18:51.920 else was just a ruse.

00:18:53.140 And then you thought,

00:18:55.040 Oh,

00:18:55.160 my mom will miss me.

00:18:56.320 But then you thought you're like,

00:18:58.320 Oh,

00:18:58.460 but she'll come to this feeling one day too,

00:19:00.100 when she passes away.

00:19:01.340 So she'll have the same realization that everything is as okay as it ever could be and ever was.

00:19:07.800 And it'll be that way for eternity.

00:19:09.720 Dang,

00:19:10.180 dude.

00:19:10.560 So that may sound crazy.

00:19:11.820 I've never even said that out loud.

00:19:12.940 I'm not even know if it makes sense.

00:19:14.160 No,

00:19:14.360 no,

00:19:14.540 that's a very beautiful thing.

00:19:16.080 But,

00:19:16.320 um,

00:19:16.600 but yeah,

00:19:17.980 so I think,

00:19:18.660 and I want to believe,

00:19:20.680 I think most people do.

00:19:22.080 I feel like it's pretty sad if like you want there to be nothing,

00:19:26.840 you know?

00:19:27.360 Yeah.

00:19:27.600 Like everyone like deep down,

00:19:29.120 whether whatever you believe in,

00:19:30.560 you would rather a way that you like move on because that's just human.

00:19:34.320 That's what I,

00:19:34.880 yeah,

00:19:35.020 that's what I think.

00:19:36.120 Yeah.

00:19:36.480 Just having,

00:19:37.100 and it makes it exciting.

00:19:38.360 And we showed up here,

00:19:39.900 dude,

00:19:40.460 we showed up here.

00:19:41.540 This is the craziest shit you could ever imagine.

00:19:43.740 Yeah.

00:19:43.920 How lucky is it to even be alive?

00:19:45.920 Yeah.

00:19:46.600 Just the grace to exist,

00:19:48.000 to be a fish that like comes close to the edge of the bowl,

00:19:50.940 like just for a second and gets to like peek out into like the universe.

00:19:54.420 And before we dip back in,

00:19:55.980 you know?

00:19:56.800 Yeah.

00:19:56.920 Exactly.

00:19:58.040 So what happened in the Queen Mary that kind of,

00:20:00.640 can you take me into any more like feelings or something that happened?

00:20:03.440 Was there anything like specific or was it just an overwhelming feeling?

00:20:06.740 Yeah.

00:20:07.000 I mean,

00:20:07.220 there was definitely the feeling there.

00:20:08.720 Uh,

00:20:09.000 we've told the story a couple of times,

00:20:10.160 but,

00:20:11.100 uh,

00:20:11.500 the synopsis is when we turn off the cameras,

00:20:14.980 we all sat around and it was like four in the morning.

00:20:17.920 It was us and a couple of roommates so that we could all vouch for each other.

00:20:21.480 And we just called out and we said,

00:20:23.120 Hey,

00:20:23.300 if there's something here,

00:20:24.660 can you give us a sign?

00:20:25.880 And there would be like right off the bat,

00:20:27.940 just a water faucet full on for like five seconds.

00:20:31.340 And then we ran into the bathroom.

00:20:33.020 It turns off.

00:20:34.020 And then it's like,

00:20:34.880 Oh,

00:20:35.080 okay,

00:20:35.320 well let's continue asking for signs.

00:20:37.540 And so we get like things like,

00:20:38.620 that's a ghost brush in its teeth.

00:20:39.760 Probably getting ready for bed.

00:20:42.300 It's like too late at that night at that point.

00:20:44.700 Uh,

00:20:45.140 but then like afterwards it would be like little knocks or scratches or taps everywhere.

00:20:49.740 And so we would be able to test it.

00:20:52.040 Cause we were very skeptical at that time too.

00:20:53.540 And it was like,

00:20:54.200 okay,

00:20:54.400 well then can you give us like three knocks?

00:20:57.640 And it was like,

00:20:58.140 okay,

00:20:59.260 let's,

00:21:00.020 let's say,

00:21:00.400 can you tap over there on the window of the ship?

00:21:02.800 So we know that it's not like an employee.

00:21:04.940 And we tap on the window.

00:21:06.320 And dude,

00:21:06.500 we're like whispering these questions.

00:21:07.940 So it's not like,

00:21:08.580 we're like,

00:21:08.980 can somebody tap?

00:21:10.140 And it's like out in the hallway.

00:21:11.380 It's like the janitor.

00:21:12.560 Can somebody play Rihanna?

00:21:14.440 You know?

00:21:15.400 Exactly.

00:21:16.320 And then,

00:21:16.600 uh,

00:21:16.900 now that it's raining,

00:21:18.320 you just start hearing that dude.

00:21:19.740 I would lose my mind.

00:21:22.100 The best paranormal evidence ever.

00:21:23.920 It's just like coming out of nothing.

00:21:25.500 And it's just Rihanna.

00:21:27.800 Umbrella.

00:21:28.860 I would love if the,

00:21:30.380 like the best paranormal evidence ever that convinces everybody is something that silly.

00:21:34.900 That would be amazing.

00:21:35.820 It'd be crazy.

00:21:36.820 The best thing ever.

00:21:37.180 But it's wild because people will say,

00:21:38.680 you know,

00:21:38.900 even in religious places,

00:21:40.160 they'll be like,

00:21:40.580 call out to God for what you want.

00:21:41.920 Call out to your higher power.

00:21:43.320 Ask your deity for,

00:21:44.880 you know,

00:21:45.220 ask the world.

00:21:46.140 Like it's the same as,

00:21:47.640 um,

00:21:47.680 when they say the secret,

00:21:48.840 it's like,

00:21:49.200 write out what you want and like meet it halfway,

00:21:51.960 build it,

00:21:52.480 build a,

00:21:52.960 um,

00:21:53.460 vision board.

00:21:54.100 That's all the same thing.

00:21:55.080 It's just trying to put something in existence physically or verbally that to,

00:21:59.340 to let the world meet,

00:22:00.600 to let the,

00:22:01.480 the spirit realm meet you halfway.

00:22:04.240 Yeah,

00:22:04.300 exactly.

00:22:04.800 Which goes back to like,

00:22:05.900 it doesn't matter what you believe in.

00:22:07.280 Maybe you don't even believe in any God,

00:22:08.860 but you're just a spiritual person and you're talking to the universe.

00:22:11.840 But all it's about is having that like manifestation and like,

00:22:16.400 yeah,

00:22:16.600 speaking,

00:22:17.140 what's it called?

00:22:18.140 The,

00:22:18.340 uh,

00:22:18.560 law of attraction,

00:22:19.200 like speaking into the universe,

00:22:20.800 what comes back to you?

00:22:21.700 Yeah.

00:22:22.280 It's really cool.

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00:23:40.440 So just to pivot a little bit and get,

00:23:42.700 because you guys have visited so many places,

00:23:45.000 right?

00:23:45.660 And congratulations to someone being this young and having gone like over so much of the world.

00:23:50.240 Thank you so much.

00:23:51.320 It's pretty crazy.

00:23:51.980 It's the greatest experience to travel,

00:23:53.000 or greatest excuse to travel ever.

00:23:54.680 It's so awesome.

00:23:55.560 It's so crazy.

00:23:56.160 Amazing.

00:23:57.260 And it's just rare that something like that gets to happen without joining like the military or

00:24:01.260 you know what I'm saying?

00:24:02.140 So you guys are in a pretty rare air.

00:24:06.020 What is the process when you go to seek paranormal activity?

00:24:09.400 Like what is kind of like,

00:24:10.680 like do you,

00:24:11.760 is there special shoes you wear?

00:24:12.940 Is there a special,

00:24:14.040 is there no,

00:24:14.520 is it no cologne allowed?

00:24:15.740 Like what really are the,

00:24:16.880 you know,

00:24:17.040 and what do you take with you kind of?

00:24:18.960 Well,

00:24:19.340 we have like two backpacks full of equipment,

00:24:21.760 which we can get into a little bit if you want.

00:24:24.180 But yeah,

00:24:24.700 we have a bunch of like probably like eight to 10 pieces of equipment that really react to EMF energy,

00:24:29.880 which is electromagnetic energy that everything in the world alive or dead,

00:24:34.280 like will emit.

00:24:35.800 So everything,

00:24:36.520 yeah,

00:24:37.200 in this life,

00:24:37.920 life or the afterlife has this EMF energy.

00:24:40.360 Is that bringing it up real quick,

00:24:41.300 just so we can put a little bit of information to it.

00:24:45.320 There's some perplexity.

00:24:46.480 That's what we're using here today.

00:24:47.820 What is EMF energy?

00:24:49.600 Electromagnetic fields,

00:24:50.700 EMFs are invisible areas of energy,

00:24:52.380 often referred to as non-ionizing radiation associated with the movement of electrical current or voltage.

00:24:59.620 They are produced by the flow of electricity through wires or devices and can be found in all environments,

00:25:04.680 indoors and outdoors.

00:25:07.380 Does everything have EMFs?

00:25:09.760 Not everything emits EMFs,

00:25:13.620 but almost every object emits some form of electromagnetic radiation,

00:25:17.100 as long as it's not an absolute zero temperature.

00:25:20.220 Any device that uses,

00:25:21.980 generates,

00:25:22.320 or conducts electricity will produce EMFs.

00:25:25.680 Natural sources of EMF include the Earth's magnetic field,

00:25:28.320 the sun,

00:25:28.760 and even biological processes within living organisms.

00:25:31.320 Okay.

00:25:31.980 So it's energy.

00:25:33.000 It's basically like people would say energy.

00:25:34.560 This is just more of a scientific way to quantify it.

00:25:37.340 Right.

00:25:37.660 Definitely.

00:25:38.280 And so like all,

00:25:39.340 almost all of our piece of equipment basically measure changes in this energy.

00:25:44.660 And so if you place it there and kind of calibrate it to the environment,

00:25:48.320 if there's a change in that environment,

00:25:49.960 then it will go off.

00:25:51.160 Got it.

00:25:51.460 So there's that type of thing.

00:25:52.760 We also use like motion sensors.

00:25:54.160 We also use like everyday objects.

00:25:56.280 So like we'll get,

00:25:57.800 you know,

00:25:58.360 let's say like cat toys or like flashlights and things like that,

00:26:02.280 that are stereotypical or just everyday objects that are not like meant for ghost hunting,

00:26:06.840 just so we can show that like even regular objects can be used for this type of thing

00:26:10.820 so that the afterlife can communicate.

00:26:12.760 So literally we'll be like,

00:26:14.680 you know,

00:26:14.940 we'll set a flashlight down and it will turn on in front of our eyes.

00:26:17.840 And it's like insane.

00:26:20.100 But at the same time,

00:26:21.380 like we would always recommend everybody start with how we started.

00:26:25.200 It's like getting yourself there and like say,

00:26:28.400 Hey,

00:26:28.660 like call out,

00:26:30.420 get the knocks,

00:26:31.440 get the voices.

00:26:32.100 Like we've been,

00:26:32.680 you know,

00:26:33.340 grabbed.

00:26:33.860 We've had voices in our ears.

00:26:35.200 We've like been pushed.

00:26:36.300 We've had doors slam in front of our faces.

00:26:37.840 It's not always the equipment.

00:26:39.940 It's like all the environmental things.

00:26:42.240 Wow.

00:26:42.560 It all kind of works together.

00:26:44.180 Yeah.

00:26:44.320 No,

00:26:44.520 going back to the Queen Mary a little bit,

00:26:45.940 like we didn't have any equipment back in the day.

00:26:48.820 And yeah,

00:26:49.460 we were just sitting in like a dark room and just really trying to put ourselves in the mindset

00:26:54.180 that everything was real,

00:26:55.540 that we were experiencing.

00:26:57.120 Y'all were the equipment,

00:26:58.180 huh?

00:26:58.520 Exactly.

00:26:59.240 Yeah.

00:26:59.540 We became the conduit.

00:27:00.900 Y'all were the equipment.

00:27:02.440 Awesome,

00:27:02.880 man.

00:27:03.580 That was dope.

00:27:04.540 It was dope.

00:27:05.600 And yeah,

00:27:06.240 no,

00:27:06.440 just like as we've gotten like further in our careers and stuff,

00:27:09.360 this is when we've like implemented new equipment that just helps us do the same thing that we did in 2018.

00:27:14.460 It helps visualize it.

00:27:15.980 Cause like,

00:27:16.560 you know,

00:27:16.860 you can say,

00:27:17.640 Oh,

00:27:17.960 I felt something on my like shoulder,

00:27:20.320 but how does like a viewer know that?

00:27:22.020 Right.

00:27:22.220 You know,

00:27:22.420 but if they can see a flashlight turn on or if they can see a motion sensor,

00:27:25.980 detect motion,

00:27:26.700 they're like,

00:27:27.040 Oh,

00:27:27.220 well that's really cool.

00:27:28.840 It's like visualize what we're experiencing.

00:27:31.320 But a lot of times as well,

00:27:32.780 now that we've done this for so long,

00:27:34.440 like a big part of our show is we take people on these adventures so that they can be our like independent variable,

00:27:42.120 you know,

00:27:42.300 like this,

00:27:42.600 somebody else who doesn't believe or maybe just like interested in it,

00:27:46.220 but you know,

00:27:47.060 it's not part of our channel or whatever.

00:27:48.100 We'll come out and experience it for the first time.

00:27:50.480 We've had so many friends come in pretty much complete atheists or skeptics and walk away like,

00:27:57.160 Whoa,

00:27:57.540 now I believe in ghosts.

00:27:58.920 Even like people that I'm like,

00:28:00.580 there's no way,

00:28:01.620 you know,

00:28:01.860 maybe people older than us that are like,

00:28:04.880 Oh,

00:28:05.140 my whole life I've been atheist.

00:28:07.100 They walk away from one night being like,

00:28:08.780 I've never seen anything like this.

00:28:09.900 I've changing my perspective and it's beautiful.

00:28:12.600 So people to bear witness as to what's going on.

00:28:15.040 Exactly.

00:28:15.720 Yeah.

00:28:15.860 Cause I just wondered,

00:28:16.560 were you guys just like,

00:28:17.540 you know,

00:28:17.880 loitering for the spirit ops to show up or what was going on?

00:28:21.040 Like,

00:28:21.180 I just didn't know like,

00:28:22.820 you know,

00:28:23.640 what kind of was happening.

00:28:24.720 They're like,

00:28:25.140 why is this guy here?

00:28:26.360 Like 3am,

00:28:27.280 like just waiting in the dark.

00:28:28.520 They probably are.

00:28:29.540 Like if you were a spirit and you're just seeing us,

00:28:31.680 we're like yelling around.

00:28:32.540 Are you here?

00:28:33.160 They're like,

00:28:33.520 yeah.

00:28:33.780 Like you dumb asses.

00:28:34.940 Some of the shittiest spirits show up to talk to you guys.

00:28:37.140 No offense,

00:28:37.600 but it's like probably like the really smart,

00:28:39.700 like spirits are like,

00:28:40.780 I'm not talking to these dudes.

00:28:42.220 Also,

00:28:42.680 you gotta think like,

00:28:43.280 why are,

00:28:43.920 why are they in like,

00:28:45.100 that's this random building?

00:28:46.380 They're just trying to fuck with us.

00:28:47.520 You know,

00:28:47.800 it's like the smart guys.

00:28:48.920 We go hang out in the spa or something.

00:28:50.920 Not,

00:28:51.400 not in this creepy building.

00:28:53.320 So we don't know who we're talking to.

00:28:55.180 Yeah.

00:28:55.460 You guys are talking to some real low level spirits.

00:28:58.540 Yeah,

00:28:58.920 definitely.

00:28:59.640 Holy shit.

00:29:00.280 I never thought about that.

00:29:02.180 It's probably why we have so many scary experiences too.

00:29:04.380 Exactly.

00:29:04.940 It's like,

00:29:05.260 who's the guy that's going to hang out in the abandoned Island?

00:29:08.240 You know,

00:29:08.520 like,

00:29:08.740 Oh,

00:29:09.020 well,

00:29:09.220 he's got to be weird.

00:29:10.640 So no worries.

00:29:11.600 Weird from this realm.

00:29:12.620 And he's got to be way weird from the other realm.

00:29:14.560 Yeah.

00:29:14.840 He wasn't even allowed in the heavens.

00:29:16.380 They're like,

00:29:16.640 yeah,

00:29:16.740 you just stay in that place over there,

00:29:19.020 man.

00:29:19.360 A couple of purgatory bad boys.

00:29:22.060 Exactly.

00:29:22.560 Damn.

00:29:22.800 That's wild,

00:29:23.560 dude.

00:29:24.180 Yeah.

00:29:24.480 But it does go back to like,

00:29:26.200 yeah,

00:29:26.300 you're just wanting something.

00:29:27.300 Right.

00:29:27.800 And then,

00:29:28.620 and then I guess it makes sense.

00:29:29.880 Cause it's like anything you start to learn,

00:29:32.660 then you want,

00:29:34.120 you know,

00:29:34.520 you start to get the accoutrements of it.

00:29:36.140 Right.

00:29:36.340 Like if you are a doctor,

00:29:38.040 you end up getting the stethoscope.

00:29:39.360 Right.

00:29:39.840 Right.

00:29:40.120 And,

00:29:40.540 and then you get a patient,

00:29:42.780 right?

00:29:42.960 Like you want to people to bear witness to whatever's going on.

00:29:46.640 Yeah,

00:29:46.920 definitely.

00:29:47.700 And that's what's like the coolest part of it is like seeing other people's like change of perspective and like how they like then afterwards like go about their lives.

00:29:56.280 But yeah,

00:29:57.480 for sure,

00:29:57.920 dude.

00:29:58.140 I,

00:29:58.440 I,

00:29:59.020 I think as far as the equipment,

00:30:00.580 that was my question.

00:30:01.180 It's like,

00:30:01.480 yeah,

00:30:01.600 are you guys just like metal detecting for bullshit or whatever out there,

00:30:05.220 you know,

00:30:05.540 like,

00:30:06.520 but,

00:30:07.000 but,

00:30:07.800 but when you incorporate the fact that you have to be willing,

00:30:11.700 you have to want something,

00:30:12.740 right.

00:30:13.280 Right.

00:30:13.820 Um,

00:30:14.620 that it can show up for you.

00:30:15.700 I just find that is so inspiring no matter what,

00:30:19.100 cause we're all looking for some sort of ghost,

00:30:21.200 you know?

00:30:22.200 Um,

00:30:23.120 we're all hoping that there's some spirit that comes up and tells us,

00:30:25.920 something,

00:30:27.380 you know,

00:30:27.720 or that,

00:30:28.320 that shares something.

00:30:29.700 We're all wanting something to come along and make us feel more complete,

00:30:32.460 you know?

00:30:33.080 Um,

00:30:33.500 and what doper place for it to come from then the afterlife or the next realm,

00:30:39.300 dude.

00:30:39.920 Exactly.

00:30:40.480 Cause it feels hella inspiring as well.

00:30:42.100 For sure.

00:30:42.720 And I think it's like worth mentioning to that.

00:30:44.600 Like this stuff doesn't happen every single time we go to a haunted place.

00:30:47.420 Like there are so many times that like we'll have videos that turn into like duds,

00:30:51.000 even if we've traveled like across the world,

00:30:52.700 um,

00:30:53.520 where we have to like completely scrap it because,

00:30:55.720 there's just nothing happens.

00:30:56.800 And so it really just depends on the spot and like the energy there.

00:31:00.800 Yeah.

00:31:01.200 And it's not like constant either.

00:31:02.340 Like most of our investigations are like 12 hours and we cut it down to like an hour

00:31:07.240 of like the craziest stuff.

00:31:08.560 And only half of that is even like any evidence that we got.

00:31:11.820 So it takes a long time for these things.

00:31:13.740 It's not like we out of everybody can just walk over and see Casper the friendly ghost

00:31:18.220 tomorrow.

00:31:18.560 Like it's like you have to go to the most haunted places in the entire world and then

00:31:22.380 also spend a very long time trying to like open yourself up for that.

00:31:25.680 Yeah.

00:31:26.460 Dude,

00:31:26.780 I'm so thankful that you guys came in,

00:31:28.180 man.

00:31:28.300 This is awesome.

00:31:29.120 I just appreciate it.

00:31:29.780 Yeah.

00:31:29.920 It's just nice to have this kind of conversation.

00:31:31.320 You know,

00:31:31.640 It's nice to be reminded of the fact that we have a part kind of in, and this sounds kind

00:31:38.240 of silly, but we have a part in what we believe, but that we have a part in things that are

00:31:44.500 supernatural.

00:31:45.600 Yeah.

00:31:45.800 I think that's what it is that we, that because we, we alone are supernatural.

00:31:51.600 100%.

00:31:52.000 It's like crazy that we're even here.

00:31:53.820 It's fucking bizarre, dude.

00:31:56.700 Especially if you look at the other animals and stuff, dude, they're all doing like normal

00:31:59.600 animal shit.

00:32:00.180 We're out here.

00:32:01.520 People are vaping.

00:32:03.420 People are lying to their parents.

00:32:05.140 Dude, if you were in the woods and you saw a bear lie to his parents and then sneak a

00:32:09.820 piece of salmon or something, you'd be like, what the heck is that?

00:32:11.980 Then hit a vape real quick.

00:32:13.340 Yeah, dude.

00:32:14.120 Imagine you saw a bear get up every morning.

00:32:16.360 All the other bears are out splashing in the water and there's one bear just sitting on

00:32:19.900 his computer every day.

00:32:21.600 It's just like, whoa.

00:32:22.580 Coding chat GPT.

00:32:23.840 It's like, what are you doing, dude?

00:32:25.700 Yeah, he's coding.

00:32:27.520 No, it's insane, man.

00:32:28.700 You guys have visited some of the most haunted places in the world that we know of right

00:32:33.620 now.

00:32:35.320 Are they different?

00:32:36.660 Is there a common link between all of them?

00:32:38.820 Like, what are you able to?

00:32:40.360 Is there sort of a overall hypothesis that you can come up with through all that?

00:32:47.060 Or is it all just one by one?

00:32:49.900 Most of them, honestly, are their own separate like entities or whatever.

00:32:54.700 No pun intended.

00:32:55.820 To where like you'll go to like one spot and like learn a bunch of history about the place

00:32:59.220 that's like maybe like 500 years old in the US.

00:33:01.520 It's not going to have any correlation to like a 500 year old place in like France or something

00:33:05.820 like that.

00:33:07.400 So I think every single spot comes with its own story and its own spirits.

00:33:11.400 There's also like human spirits.

00:33:13.180 There's more like demonic things you could talk to as well.

00:33:16.440 Earthly spirits.

00:33:17.700 So there's a lot of different like variables, I guess you could say, depending on like where

00:33:22.220 you go.

00:33:22.860 Really?

00:33:23.160 Okay, so some places have different types of spirits?

00:33:25.900 It kind of depends on the history of what all happened there and like how much trauma

00:33:30.520 there is in the said place.

00:33:31.920 Because again, all of this is based on the energy that's at the location.

00:33:35.280 Is there one that stands out to you that kind of had a demonic energy?

00:33:37.740 Because that's an interesting word.

00:33:39.620 Yeah.

00:33:39.960 I mean, okay.

00:33:40.480 So one place that we went to for this October, we went to Pendle Hill.

00:33:45.080 And so that's a place that's considered one of the most haunted or if not the most

00:33:48.900 haunted place in the United Kingdom.

00:33:51.480 Pendle Hill?

00:33:52.120 Pendle Hill.

00:33:52.700 P-E-N-D-E-L?

00:33:54.000 D-L-E.

00:33:55.040 Yeah.

00:33:55.460 D-L-E.

00:33:55.840 But that was the home of the most infamous witch trials ever happened.

00:34:01.000 So like basically 11 witches were killed, 12 were like put on trial for doing witchcraft.

00:34:09.240 And at that time, a lot of witches turned to the devil because witches were outcasted

00:34:14.620 by the church.

00:34:15.720 And so when they would turn to the devil, they made this place more like demonic and

00:34:20.200 like it has this like devil satanic pull to it.

00:34:23.000 Wow.

00:34:23.340 And so we actually brought out a, you know, a witch that was doing witchcraft to summon

00:34:31.220 the devil.

00:34:31.640 That was her main practice and had her try to summon and channel the devil himself.

00:34:37.300 The actual devil.

00:34:37.640 And it was like literally like hundreds of years of witches on this exact hill have been

00:34:42.260 practicing trying to speak with the devil.

00:34:44.620 And we try to recreate that as close as possible, which was one of, if not the most terrifying

00:34:50.760 thing we've ever done.

00:34:51.780 Yeah.

00:34:52.060 But like, for example, that would make a place more demonic.

00:34:54.820 If we have hundreds of years of people putting their effort and all of their power, again,

00:35:00.280 if we're talking about opening yourself up to a spiritual thing, if all you're doing

00:35:05.520 is putting that faith and that energy towards something demonic, you're going to attract

00:35:09.500 the demonic.

00:35:10.160 You're not going to attract something that's like happy.

00:35:12.380 Oh, for sure.

00:35:12.960 Let me see this.

00:35:13.700 Pendle Hill is most infamous for its ties to the Pendle witch trials of 1612, where several

00:35:17.800 local women were tried and executed for witchcraft.

00:35:20.140 The area is steeped in legend, including tales of supernatural occurrences.

00:35:26.720 Does it have any more?

00:35:28.040 Can you give me a little bit more information about the witches?

00:35:30.740 Maybe you could say like, look up the story of Alison Device.

00:35:34.480 This is how it all started.

00:35:36.680 How you guys found it?

00:35:38.580 Oh, this is how it all began.

00:35:39.800 This is how it all began.

00:35:40.660 I wish we found this.

00:35:41.780 That'd be crazy.

00:35:43.920 The story of Alison Device, Alison, is central to the infamous Pendle witch trials of

00:35:49.940 1612 in Lancashire, England.

00:35:52.520 She was a young woman from a poor family who one spring morning encountered John Law, a

00:35:57.820 peddler from Halifax, while walking to Trodden Forest.

00:36:01.300 Alison asked him for some pens, a common request at the time.

00:36:04.820 As pens were believed to have uses in folk magic, Law refused, prompting Alison to utter a

00:36:10.160 curse against him, upon which Law soon collapsed, suffering symptoms that were later recognized

00:36:15.660 as a stroke.

00:36:16.820 Called it.

00:36:18.680 Though at the time, this was believed to be a result of witchcraft.

00:36:21.840 Dang.

00:36:22.720 And she was 12, by the way, when she did this.

00:36:24.760 So a 12-year-old girl just meets a salesman.

00:36:27.240 She's like, can I have some pens?

00:36:28.360 He's like, nah.

00:36:29.480 She's like, curse you.

00:36:30.540 And he died.

00:36:31.580 And so they were like, this girl's a witch.

00:36:32.960 And so her and her family were all like accused of witchcraft.

00:36:36.860 And then they all started blaming each other in the town.

00:36:38.820 But the weird part is like, they all admitted to it.

00:36:41.360 They literally like said on court trial, like, hey, I did use witchcraft to attempt to speak

00:36:46.960 to the devil and summon him.

00:36:48.620 And so it's like, well, why?

00:36:50.240 You know?

00:36:50.520 Oh, the family said that?

00:36:51.520 Yeah.

00:36:51.920 The family.

00:36:52.200 So why did they do that?

00:36:53.780 Because they thought they were so upset by what had happened to her that they're like,

00:36:58.620 well, we're going to call the devil here?

00:37:00.240 Well, they were admitting that in previous times, they had already like, they had already

00:37:06.080 been in witchcraft and they've already been a part of it.

00:37:07.700 Oh, so her family was a little bit familiar with witchcraft.

00:37:09.600 Yeah.

00:37:10.160 Already.

00:37:10.380 Oh, but also, what's that dude doing just gooning around some 12-year-old?

00:37:14.440 Yeah.

00:37:14.960 You know what I'm saying, dude?

00:37:16.240 Serves them right.

00:37:17.200 Bro, what are you loyering around some 12-year-old for, dude?

00:37:21.360 That's so true.

00:37:22.280 Oh, my God.

00:37:24.080 Bro, they're catching mad gooners back then.

00:37:27.040 They were.

00:37:27.860 That's the kind of shit that happens, dude, even a long time ago.

00:37:31.060 And she was the one that got arrested, not him, by the way.

00:37:33.620 That was, dude.

00:37:34.660 It's like, what?

00:37:35.400 It's like, God, obvious.

00:37:37.580 Oh, that's crazy, though.

00:37:39.720 And imagine the energy of that at the time.

00:37:41.900 And like, she's young and now like, she's put in this space where it's like, how did

00:37:46.560 they execute them?

00:37:47.940 They hang them.

00:37:48.500 By hanging.

00:37:48.900 Yeah.

00:37:49.300 Yeah.

00:37:49.880 So if you think about that, yeah, like 11 of them died, 10 of them by hanging.

00:37:53.660 And that was accounted for 2% of all the witches ever that have been executed all in this

00:37:59.320 one trial because the whole family admitted to witchcraft.

00:38:02.120 So it was a massive deal.

00:38:03.660 And it's one of the most famous witch trials in history.

00:38:06.440 And because part of the thing was to be like freed from being like accused of being a witch,

00:38:13.220 I guess you had to point the blame on somebody else.

00:38:15.780 So the entire family basically like turned on each other and like the little girl was

00:38:19.840 like, my grandma did it.

00:38:21.420 She was like, what the fuck?

00:38:22.740 And then she was on the trial.

00:38:24.180 And obviously, you're like, mom's a bitch.

00:38:25.640 And they're like, but they didn't hear it right.

00:38:27.680 Yeah.

00:38:28.100 Exactly.

00:38:28.460 And you're like, oh, shit.

00:38:30.580 And now I'm dead.

00:38:32.420 Oh, dude, that's crazy.

00:38:34.680 That would be the craziest.

00:38:35.920 It's almost like the sickest game show ever where it's going to be you or you have to

00:38:39.600 point the finger at somebody else.

00:38:40.920 Exactly.

00:38:41.960 Exactly.

00:38:42.280 And it's your mom.

00:38:44.620 Crazy.

00:38:44.860 Especially if there's nobody left.

00:38:46.340 What if it's down to you and your mom?

00:38:47.840 Yeah.

00:38:48.120 Exactly.

00:38:48.920 Do I kill her?

00:38:49.600 Oh, God.

00:38:50.120 And then you both blame each other.

00:38:51.300 So you're both dead.

00:38:52.140 Then you're like, OK.

00:38:52.920 Yeah.

00:38:53.140 It's like that meme or the Spider-Man.

00:38:55.920 Yeah.

00:38:56.300 Yeah.

00:38:57.040 You're just blaming each other.

00:38:59.100 That's the witch trials, man.

00:39:00.900 Yeah.

00:39:01.220 It's crazy.

00:39:02.220 Yeah.

00:39:02.440 That would be a lot of energy being over there.

00:39:04.460 One place that's even worse than that, I think, is my top scariest we've ever gone to.

00:39:10.140 And will that be on Hell Week?

00:39:11.500 Is that episode coming on you guys' Hell Week?

00:39:14.060 And how long is Hell Week?

00:39:14.860 It's one week of just all episodes of you guys?

00:39:17.260 So Hell Week is the brand we've started for the last five years.

00:39:20.440 But this year, we switched it to Hell Month.

00:39:23.460 And so basically, once a week, we go to the most demonic places in the world.

00:39:27.320 And we're leading up to Halloween.

00:39:29.140 So every Sunday until Halloween.

00:39:31.600 It's pretty terrifying.

00:39:33.520 But by far, the scariest for me of this entire Hell Month was going to the Paris Catacombs.

00:39:39.100 Oh, my God.

00:39:39.880 I don't know if you ever heard of that.

00:39:41.080 I've been there, actually.

00:39:42.060 You've been in the catacombs?

00:39:43.140 Yeah.

00:39:43.520 The illegal part or the legal part?

00:39:45.040 I'm not sure.

00:39:45.920 My buddy got a little, like a, whatever that's, one of these.

00:39:51.980 Oh, my God.

00:39:52.460 A little tarsal or something.

00:39:53.820 Okay.

00:39:55.060 He got a bootleg tarsal off one of the staff there, like a little piece of bone.

00:39:58.600 Huh.

00:39:58.860 Oh, really?

00:39:59.820 Yeah.

00:40:00.160 Oh, jeez.

00:40:00.920 So he's obviously not going to be doing well.

00:40:05.560 Take a bone from the Paris Catacombs and curse forever?

00:40:08.780 Yeah, dude.

00:40:09.440 I said, dude, just get some astronaut ice cream from the gift shop.

00:40:13.320 What's your problem?

00:40:15.040 That's like a skull.

00:40:16.440 But he wanted to be different, so he got a little piece of foot or something.

00:40:19.400 So there's, like, two miles of this tourist style, like, this tourist part of the curse

00:40:24.040 catacombs where you can legally go into, and then there's 200 miles of illegal territory.

00:40:29.440 That's a whole labyrinth that doesn't even have a map, like.

00:40:32.280 It's seven stories, so, like, you can go up and down, like, different floors.

00:40:35.700 So, yeah, you get lost very, very easily.

00:40:37.500 And there's six million dead bodies that are buried down underneath, and it's pretty much

00:40:43.020 a mirror of Paris.

00:40:44.460 So if you think of how big Paris is, you're walking around there.

00:40:46.960 There's an equivalent underneath Paris itself, which is insane to think about.

00:40:52.920 And people go down there, get lost, and die all the time.

00:40:56.640 And so, basically, we had to go down there and trust this, like, random guide that we'd

00:41:00.600 met that day and be like, hey, don't leave us, because if you left us, we would die.

00:41:07.100 We've actually known people that have gone down there, and the guides will, like, take

00:41:11.260 them into a corner and be like, hey, go check out that cave.

00:41:14.320 Steal their bags and run.

00:41:15.200 And, like, leave them there to die just to rob them and everything.

00:41:18.960 Because who would even notice that they died because of all the other bones?

00:41:21.860 Exactly.

00:41:22.340 Just show them in the corner.

00:41:23.380 And no one's coming to save you.

00:41:25.280 It's like hundreds of miles of this, and it's all legal.

00:41:27.820 Bring that up.

00:41:28.500 Can you give me some information on that?

00:41:29.900 I didn't know it's like that.

00:41:31.580 Dude, I remember.

00:41:32.900 Oh, my God.

00:41:33.380 I forgot about this.

00:41:34.080 I was trying to, like, flirt with our tour guide down there, and she was looking at me

00:41:39.320 like, I was the creepiest guy in the world.

00:41:42.280 First date and a bunch of skeletons.

00:41:45.260 In hindsight, I was.

00:41:47.540 You were like, hey, so.

00:41:49.040 And some dude in our group kept making these boner jokes and shit.

00:41:52.160 It was so dumb.

00:41:54.560 It was ridiculous.

00:41:55.500 He made, like, 40 boner.

00:41:56.920 I'm like, dude, that's a, yeah, just chill out.

00:42:00.240 But he just wouldn't stop.

00:42:01.520 But, yeah, I remember trying to flirt with this girl down there.

00:42:04.080 And, oh, she must have been like, this guy's a creep.

00:42:08.440 Placing the time.

00:42:09.640 Yeah, yeah.

00:42:10.080 But, hey, shooters shoot, right?

00:42:12.780 Exactly.

00:42:13.540 No matter what the circumstance.

00:42:15.380 That's it, bro.

00:42:16.820 What's a rib cage amongst friends, you know?

00:42:19.700 The Paris Catacombs refers to a vast underground network beneath Paris,

00:42:23.440 consisting of approximately 200 miles of tunnels and passageways.

00:42:27.800 While these tunnels originally functioned as limestone quarries,

00:42:31.520 dating back to the 13th century,

00:42:32.940 they were repurposed in the late 1700s as an ossuary,

00:42:37.120 a final resting place eventually holding their bones of more than 6 million Parisians.

00:42:41.140 That's unbelievable, man.

00:42:42.480 And there's really crazy structures down there.

00:42:44.700 So, like, they'll have, like, ritual rooms.

00:42:47.000 There'll be, like, literal thrones made of human bones down there.

00:42:51.380 There's, like, all these things they call the bone rooms

00:42:53.200 that are just, like, stacked super high of, like, towers of different bones.

00:42:57.040 It's, like, the most insane thing you've ever seen.

00:42:59.020 Like, trying to conceptualize seeing, like, a dead human,

00:43:03.320 now see 6 million of them.

00:43:05.200 And they're all stacked in weird formations.

00:43:07.260 And there's, like, baptismal rooms and things like that.

00:43:10.560 It's genuinely...

00:43:10.820 That's the bone throne.

00:43:13.620 What?

00:43:14.560 Yeah.

00:43:15.000 That's a shitter?

00:43:16.560 I mean...

00:43:17.760 Well, hopefully not.

00:43:19.700 It'd be crazy if it was, right?

00:43:21.880 Bro, you know someone's tried, for sure.

00:43:23.700 Oh, definitely, dude.

00:43:25.760 I've never had stage right out the back,

00:43:27.720 but I think I'd have it on that.

00:43:29.480 Oh, God.

00:43:30.640 What was the cause of all the deaths?

00:43:33.080 So, a lot of it was just people that were dead above in the cemeteries.

00:43:38.180 Mainly from the plague.

00:43:39.100 Yeah, from the plague.

00:43:39.940 And also, Paris was just, like, a very popular city, obviously.

00:43:42.840 And so, like, over time, as it got, like, more and more people,

00:43:45.520 they didn't have enough room for the dead.

00:43:46.840 And so, they would just bring a lot of, like, people,

00:43:49.360 like, dead bodies down to just dump them in the tunnels.

00:43:51.440 Oh, yeah.

00:43:51.700 Down below.

00:43:52.100 There's nothing tackier than a dead dude.

00:43:54.220 When you're trying to have, like, a...

00:43:55.520 Yeah, especially, like, on the Champs-Elysees or something like that.

00:43:59.220 Nothing's more tacky-looking than some dead-ass dude.

00:44:03.400 While you're trying to have, like, beautiful outfits and shit.

00:44:06.560 While you just throw them down, like, leave them in the tunnel.

00:44:09.140 Get them out of this beautiful city, all right?

00:44:10.700 Let's stick them underneath.

00:44:11.400 Yeah, it's, like, just putting something under the rug, really.

00:44:14.160 For real, yeah.

00:44:14.880 Actually, Paris' rug.

00:44:15.860 It's crazy.

00:44:16.820 And there was not only just, like, paranormal danger there that we, like,

00:44:19.780 encountered, but also, like, extreme claustrophobia where we were, like,

00:44:23.400 cave diving on, like, our hands and knees, essentially.

00:44:26.580 Like, wading through waters that were freezing cold up to, like, our nipples

00:44:29.720 and stuff, like, walking around.

00:44:31.400 Yeah, imagine getting frozen nips in two miles in the catacombs.

00:44:35.680 Yeah, literally.

00:44:36.820 Uh-huh.

00:44:37.140 And then we're talking to ghosts.

00:44:38.100 And then I think the scariest of it all, actually, is the fact that there are known

00:44:43.720 gangs that, like, roam around in the Paris catacombs that actively try to steal from tourists

00:44:49.640 because they know it's so popular for people to try to go out there and film and, like,

00:44:53.820 take things down there.

00:44:54.820 Oh, yeah.

00:44:55.040 And so if you get close, which actually, again, like, we know a couple of buddies that have

00:44:58.420 had this happen to them, they'll be, they'll come and just jump you.

00:45:01.820 Just take all your stuff and walk around.

00:45:03.420 Like, there's people that know the catacombs like the back of their hands.

00:45:05.940 And so when they encounter a tourist, they're like, oh, I got you.

00:45:08.660 Like, I'll just take all your equipment and, like, make you run, which is terrifying.

00:45:12.880 And what are you going to do, grab a femur and beat somebody?

00:45:15.280 Like, it would almost be scary.

00:45:16.900 It would be a weird spot to even defeat.

00:45:18.200 It would all feel so surreal if somebody's rocking you there.

00:45:22.360 Oh, Brian, if they turn off your light, you're done.

00:45:24.580 Like, you can't see this far ahead.

00:45:27.000 Oh, yeah.

00:45:27.480 We went to some other catacombs and that was really rough.

00:45:29.780 This is in Ukraine, so not Paris.

00:45:34.660 But, yeah, basically like that, all around the Paris catacombs.

00:45:38.960 And so that was part of one of the demonic places you guys checked out?

00:45:41.320 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:45:42.000 Got it.

00:45:42.300 So it was one of the four episodes of Hell Month, but it was, like, really surreal

00:45:46.520 because that was the closest we'd ever really been to, like, dead bodies.

00:45:49.660 And not to mention, we got lost down there.

00:45:52.080 So, like, we had our guide that we had just met, Shadow Gaspard.

00:45:57.580 Gaspard?

00:45:58.220 Gaspard.

00:45:58.740 What an incredible name.

00:45:59.920 We were like, there's no way this guy's going to leave us.

00:46:01.660 His name's Gaspard.

00:46:03.040 We have to find our way out of here.

00:46:05.540 But, yeah, we were, like, super, super late.

00:46:07.660 Like, we were only supposed to be down there for, like, seven, eight hours,

00:46:10.000 something like that.

00:46:10.920 And we were, like, in our last investigation, realized, like, the time was up.

00:46:15.320 And then it took us, like, another hour to maybe, yeah, to find, like, the exit

00:46:21.060 because we would go to, like, where Gaspard thought there was going to be, like,

00:46:24.480 an exit to, like, a manhole.

00:46:26.640 And the police would actively, like, seal it up with cement.

00:46:29.860 It was scary.

00:46:30.780 Yeah.

00:46:31.120 So we went to three different exits that we thought were exits,

00:46:35.680 and they're all closed off.

00:46:36.960 And so we were like, oh, my God.

00:46:39.320 Not only are we now, like, two hours late.

00:46:41.480 All the people that we told to, like, worry about us are now worried about us.

00:46:44.880 But we actually don't know where to get out.

00:46:46.700 So we had to go all the way back to our original entrance.

00:46:49.600 And it took so long.

00:46:51.020 And everyone was, like, calling us.

00:46:52.700 We, like, came out.

00:46:54.120 And there's no service down there until a bunch of texts.

00:46:55.780 Are you dead?

00:46:57.200 Yeah, zero.

00:46:58.400 It's so terrifying.

00:47:01.160 Gaspard!

00:47:02.020 Gaspard!

00:47:02.520 But he led us to safety.

00:47:04.160 Let's go.

00:47:04.880 It was good.

00:47:05.980 The name Gaspard is of French and Parisian origin.

00:47:08.600 It means bringer of treasure or treasurer.

00:47:10.940 Oh, he brought us some treasure.

00:47:12.220 We treasured him a lot.

00:47:14.700 Gaspard.

00:47:15.300 That is still a treasure.

00:47:15.960 That is a good name.

00:47:17.420 Yeah, that was actually one of the more crazy investigations.

00:47:20.400 So we used this thing called –

00:47:22.620 Honestly, we actually just used a voice recorder.

00:47:25.840 So it's like a stereotypical voice recorder.

00:47:27.820 But there was one rendition of this Japanese voice recorder

00:47:32.980 that they actually recalled back in the 70s

00:47:35.340 because they kept getting other voices

00:47:38.280 when they, like, play back the voice recording.

00:47:41.480 Like, they'd, you know, talk a sentence,

00:47:43.820 but then they'd get a couple other voices and sentences in it.

00:47:46.920 And they're like, oh, this must be weird.

00:47:48.340 But then, like, later on, people were like, wait, no,

00:47:50.080 these are legit other people talking in a room that nobody else is in.

00:47:54.300 So now we use this as, like, basically ghost equipment.

00:47:56.620 And we can record on this voice recorder and ask a question

00:48:00.040 and play it back and there's actual conversations coming back to us

00:48:04.280 that are not in the room.

00:48:06.000 And it's the thought that these voice recorders can pick up frequencies

00:48:08.720 that the human ear can't hear.

00:48:10.680 And so it's a literal way to have a conversation.

00:48:14.120 And so we will ask someone, like, we'll ask a spirit, like, you know,

00:48:18.480 hey, like, what are you doing here?

00:48:20.340 Or something like that.

00:48:20.980 Or, like, in this specific sense, we asked, like, are you dead or alive?

00:48:24.720 Just to see if it would fuck with us.

00:48:26.240 And it literally said, I'm alive.

00:48:28.600 Back.

00:48:29.140 Very clear.

00:48:29.660 Like, super clear.

00:48:31.160 It was one of the craziest things I've ever heard.

00:48:32.860 And, again, that's why we bring guests that have never experienced this before

00:48:35.800 so that they can, like, see this for the first time.

00:48:38.300 And, like, everybody was mind blown.

00:48:40.440 Like, imagine you're sitting there underground next to thousands of skeletons

00:48:45.660 and you ask to a voice recorder, are you dead or alive?

00:48:49.640 You wait.

00:48:50.320 You play it back.

00:48:51.220 There is a new voice that wasn't there saying, I'm alive.

00:48:55.720 And you're like, what?

00:48:58.120 Crazy.

00:48:58.520 It's so crazy.

00:48:59.260 That's a bar, dude.

00:49:00.200 It's a bar.

00:49:01.240 Fuck.

00:49:01.740 That's a skeletal drake.

00:49:06.120 We ran the fuck out of there.

00:49:07.660 We're like, all right.

00:49:08.440 Well, this is actually terrifying.

00:49:09.600 That's heavy, dude.

00:49:11.540 It was crazy.

00:49:12.360 Has there been an experience that hit you more emotionally than other experiences?

00:49:18.100 Dude.

00:49:18.460 Yeah, not to go back to the same video we were just talking about, but also during Hell

00:49:23.200 Month this month, we did the Pendle Hill.

00:49:26.080 And Sam had mentioned that we were really trying to push the bar and talk to the actual

00:49:30.980 devil himself.

00:49:31.980 And earlier I had mentioned, like, I'm Christian.

00:49:34.120 And so that was something that I was just like, no.

00:49:36.180 Like, I always feel like I'm overstepping the line, like being involved in the paranormal

00:49:41.940 as a Christian, as it is being involved in, like, occult magic and stuff like that.

00:49:46.580 Yeah.

00:49:46.920 Yeah.

00:49:47.480 I feel that.

00:49:48.360 It's, which is hard.

00:49:49.480 It's like a mental battle for me.

00:49:50.760 But at the same time, like when our team first decided or came up with the idea of, like,

00:49:55.720 maybe we can, like, invite a witch to summon the devil.

00:49:57.960 I was like, guys, like, this is where I have to draw the line for, like, my witch sounds

00:50:02.860 like, like, duh.

00:50:04.200 You wouldn't want to do that.

00:50:04.960 Sam, you take this one.

00:50:05.440 Yeah.

00:50:05.860 And he did.

00:50:06.620 And he did.

00:50:08.340 But, yeah.

00:50:08.980 But it's also interesting if you sometimes, if you want to talk to, you know, sometimes

00:50:13.580 you got to talk to this person to talk to that person, you know?

00:50:16.760 Exactly.

00:50:17.460 Exactly.

00:50:18.140 But was that, but sorry, I stepped on you.

00:50:20.260 What were you saying?

00:50:21.220 Oh, it's all good.

00:50:21.860 It was just, like, and we show it in the video as well, but, like, I basically pull Sam

00:50:25.820 to the side right before he's about to do this, like, ritual, I guess you could say.

00:50:30.320 And I had, like, a deep conversation with him where I was, like, nearly in tears talking

00:50:35.140 to him about, like, dude, like, we're making, like, YouTube videos.

00:50:38.180 Like, this is beyond that.

00:50:40.640 Like, you are, like, meddling into some stuff that, like, I know you don't personally believe

00:50:44.760 in, but this has, like, everything to do, like, with my faith.

00:50:48.840 And I deeply believe in this.

00:50:50.360 Yeah, Sam's gone too far.

00:50:51.440 Yeah, for real.

00:50:52.220 And I was just like, be careful.

00:50:54.820 We're like, yeah, fuck Sam.

00:50:56.680 Actually, comment down below.

00:50:59.000 Yeah, Sam's gone too far.

00:51:01.320 So, why are you doing that, man?

00:51:04.340 Let's hash it out here, man.

00:51:06.180 No, it was interesting.

00:51:07.600 Like, jokes aside, it's been.

00:51:09.440 And where was that at?

00:51:10.060 Sorry.

00:51:10.500 Pendle Hill.

00:51:10.920 That was in Pendle Hill.

00:51:11.800 In the UK.

00:51:12.440 I could see that, man.

00:51:14.140 I could see that because you, you know, it's almost just like, like, if you say enough

00:51:18.500 bad stuff, it's like, you know, it's like, you become what you do, you know?

00:51:22.940 It's like, it's, I could see that when you, there's a reason why people probably don't do

00:51:27.300 it that much.

00:51:28.220 Exactly.

00:51:29.000 Exactly.

00:51:29.420 Especially religious people like me.

00:51:30.940 But like, again, I am more so just like spreading hope to people.

00:51:34.520 And that's kind of how like I mentally cope with what I do for a living.

00:51:38.420 But like, again, when it has to like delve into like hellish things, like literally talking

00:51:43.600 to Satan, the devil himself, I was like, you know what?

00:51:46.060 I'm good on that one.

00:51:46.940 I'll just film like in the corner.

00:51:48.520 Yeah.

00:51:48.800 Maybe talk to Satan's secretary or whatever.

00:51:50.940 But I'll need the big dog in here.

00:51:53.560 Exactly.

00:51:54.140 But do you ever see any ghosts like that are like hot chicks?

00:51:57.040 Or is there ever any ghosts that are like yurking off or whatever?

00:52:00.220 Like there's some prostitutes out there.

00:52:01.820 Yeah.

00:52:02.040 Yeah.

00:52:02.360 I feel like ghosts are always just kind of fucking doing like trap shit.

00:52:07.240 I don't feel like any of them are like, are any of them ever being sexy?

00:52:10.460 I wonder.

00:52:11.140 Or what are ghosts doing the most?

00:52:12.940 I wonder.

00:52:14.100 Probably gooning behind the scenes.

00:52:15.780 Nobody can see them.

00:52:16.840 You know?

00:52:17.320 Yeah.

00:52:17.460 If you're invisible, what are you doing?

00:52:19.480 If I were invisible, dude, I'd be fricking spraying, bro.

00:52:23.480 For sure.

00:52:24.400 For sure, dude.

00:52:25.560 I've already got a problem and I'm fully visible.

00:52:29.580 So.

00:52:30.600 But for sure, dude.

00:52:31.840 No one's safe, dude.

00:52:33.140 Yeah.

00:52:33.560 Nobody's safe, dude.

00:52:34.760 Once I'm a ghost, bro.

00:52:36.540 Just freaking heaven, dude.

00:52:38.820 No, but you got to think.

00:52:39.620 Yeah.

00:52:39.840 Like, what are they doing?

00:52:41.120 Because they never know.

00:52:41.580 Once I'm a ghost, everything's all grotton, homie.

00:52:43.880 You feel me?

00:52:44.900 Exactly.

00:52:45.520 I'm spraying cheese, dog.

00:52:47.940 Type shit, boys.

00:52:49.960 No, everybody will know, too.

00:52:51.600 Like, in the afterlife, they're like, what was that?

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00:52:57.080 It comes in, like, haunts our videos later.

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00:53:00.560 I got something in my eye.

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00:53:02.920 You guys are just like, you always pretend it's bird shit.

00:53:05.420 You're like, ugh.

00:53:06.300 Ugh.

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00:53:07.660 Must be ectoplasm.

00:53:09.360 You're indoors.

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00:57:41.480 Do you guys know if the U.S. government has ever made a classification on paranormal activity?

00:57:47.940 Have they ever?

00:57:49.880 I think.

00:57:51.180 Have they ever acknowledged it like?

00:57:54.740 There was a president.

00:57:57.120 I've mistaken which one it is right now, but in the Bell Witch Cave Trials, which is actually here in Tennessee, I think.

00:58:05.180 Yeah.

00:58:06.580 There was a case where somebody died and they ruled it in court as a death by paranormal.

00:58:13.840 And actually one of the presidents went to that location just to see the demons and confirmed that it was haunted.

00:58:21.180 So, I don't know if that's like the government getting behind paranormal, but they have acknowledged things like that.

00:58:28.380 Wow.

00:58:29.280 I can read this case here.

00:58:31.440 Yeah, this one's really interesting.

00:58:32.960 The only widely cited case in which a death was officially attributed to paranormal causes is the Bell Witch Haunting in Adams, Tennessee, specifically the 1820 death of John Bell Sr.

00:58:46.060 John Bell, dude.

00:58:47.380 And I think he's also the lead singer for widespread panic as well.

00:58:49.960 I love him.

00:58:51.540 He's had many lives.

00:58:53.900 Yeah, he's had many lives, dude.

00:58:56.400 According to numerous sources, John Bell's death was attributed by his family and several contemporaries to the Bell Witch, a supernatural entity that tormented the Bell family beginning in 1817.

00:59:06.240 The case is notable because Tennessee is reported to have recognized John Bell's death as caused by this supernatural, making it unique in American legal and folklore history.

00:59:18.340 Yeah, I think this is the only cited death that is like recognized as paranormal.

00:59:24.580 Wow.

00:59:24.780 Most people are thinking – most people think like, hey, you know, no one's died because of the paranormal and no one gets hurt.

00:59:30.360 But there's a lot of people that get hurt, and there is this one death that people have said.

00:59:35.780 And I think this is the case as well that a president at the time went to this location too.

00:59:42.320 John Bell's phenomenon grew so – and this is on perplexity.

00:59:46.140 The phenomenon grew so intense that John Bell developed a mysterious illness, and after finding a strange vial of black liquid next to his bed, oh, that would trip me out.

00:59:55.120 But if I even find, like, a girl's gum next to my bed, I can't even sleep good.

01:00:00.720 His son tested it on a cat, which died suddenly.

01:00:03.760 The Bell Witch allegedly claimed credit for poisoning John Bell, who died on December 20th, 1820.

01:00:09.000 Why would the kid give it to the cat?

01:00:11.220 Like, oh, here's some black tar liquid.

01:00:13.540 Like, kitty, kitty, kitty, kitty, come here.

01:00:16.080 That's the most kid shit ever.

01:00:18.340 He's like, ah, fuck this cat.

01:00:20.380 Let's see if he dies too.

01:00:22.520 He's like, I miss my dad, but fuck this cat.

01:00:25.120 With that cat.

01:00:26.500 The U.S. president who was most famously associated with a visit to the Bell Witch Cave was Andrew Jackson.

01:00:31.120 There he is.

01:00:31.360 As a general and later as president, Jackson reportedly visited the Bell family property in Adams, Tennessee during the height of the Bell Witch disturbances.

01:00:39.600 According to legend and multiple historical accounts, Jackson and his entourage experienced unexplained phenomena and chose to leave early,

01:00:46.460 with Jackson famously quoted as saying he would rather face the entire British Army and spend another night with the Bell Witch.

01:00:53.760 Isn't that crazy?

01:00:55.420 Andrew Jackson.

01:00:56.180 To think.

01:00:57.020 Bro, Ajax couldn't handle that broad.

01:00:59.220 And he's credible too.

01:01:00.300 It's not just some random, like, homeless guy they brought over to assess the situation.

01:01:04.560 Like, they brought the president who was like, dude, I'm not doing that ever again.

01:01:08.820 It's crazy.

01:01:10.000 This guy wasn't taking DMT, you know?

01:01:11.540 Yeah, this guy had a sword.

01:01:14.900 He's like, I can't do shit, dude, guys.

01:01:16.860 Incredible guy.

01:01:18.580 Dude, that's wild, though.

01:01:20.400 Right?

01:01:20.860 It makes me think about how, like, over the years, like, schizophrenia and these different things,

01:01:25.940 like, we've given a lot of things a scientific term now also to make them marketable to medicine.

01:01:32.000 But you don't think about how many of those things could just be also spiritual in nature.

01:01:39.460 You know, I'm not saying that schizophrenia is spiritual in nature, even though I'm sure the spirit is heavily affected.

01:01:44.800 But you just don't know.

01:01:46.340 You don't know what something could have happened in a past life that's now come through and is affecting a spirit in this life or affecting someone in this life.

01:01:54.420 And it's just looked at these days as a semi-common disease that we have, but it's something that's far greater than that or used to be deemed that way, you know?

01:02:02.740 So true.

01:02:03.720 Yeah.

01:02:04.440 It's pretty wild.

01:02:05.280 Depends on what you believe, exactly.

01:02:06.800 Yeah.

01:02:07.780 It did seem more fun back then to believe in stuff, too.

01:02:10.820 I think because more people were believing things.

01:02:12.800 Now a lot of our beliefs just, like, are looking at our phone, and before our beliefs used to, like, go into the air, you know?

01:02:19.620 It is really sad.

01:02:20.740 I feel like, yeah, we're, like, facing a really secular time of, like, everyone's just like,

01:02:24.700 ah, like, if I don't see it on Chatty PT, then I'm not going to believe it type of thing.

01:02:28.960 But no one's, like you said, like, believing and, like, putting themselves out there to actually experience these things.

01:02:34.260 Because at the end of the day, it's so much harder to believe anything online, like anything over, you know, a video.

01:02:40.760 Yeah, I wouldn't believe a ghost video from 10 years ago before I started this.

01:02:45.380 And then I only started believing because I physically experienced it myself in person.

01:02:49.360 So I fully, like, you know, empathize with all the people that are online watching our videos being, like, that's cool and all that you guys do this, but I can't believe it until I see it, you know?

01:02:58.700 So I would encourage a lot of people who are, like, into this type of thing to actually, you know, go and experience these things or put yourself out there and try.

01:03:06.360 Just like with faith.

01:03:07.480 It's like if you just try to take someone's word for it, you know, whatever.

01:03:11.060 But if you were to go to church and actually read these things and, like, go for it and really put yourself in there, then you might find God.

01:03:17.340 Like, oh, I'll notice the more I pray, the more when I walk into certain rooms or whatever, I can feel, like, my knees almost tingle a bit.

01:03:23.700 Like, I want to hit them, right?

01:03:25.360 Like, I want to, you know, I want to hit my knees right there and pray, right?

01:03:29.920 And it becomes sort of a practice.

01:03:31.440 Like, yeah, for sure, whatever you practice and lean into becomes more of you, you know?

01:03:36.060 And we probably used to be more connected to the spirit realm overall.

01:03:40.400 You know, I'm sure, like, Native Americans especially were so connected to it and, like, really lived by it and had a real, like, I bet they had, like, a real, like, gigahertz connection with, like, a, you know what I'm saying?

01:03:51.820 For sure.

01:03:52.460 Also, you had time to think.

01:03:54.000 Now it's, like, the second that you go and take a shit, you're just, like, swiping TikTok or something.

01:03:57.900 It's, like, not like you have a single moment away from distraction and entertainment.

01:04:02.100 You don't have any second to wonder.

01:04:04.340 I know.

01:04:04.740 Yeah.

01:04:04.980 But you need it.

01:04:07.280 I know.

01:04:07.940 It's crazy not to have a second to wonder when we're part of something that's so wondrous.

01:04:11.640 It's, like, it's almost baffling, dude.

01:04:14.540 We'll get to the end of our lives and one of our last thoughts will be, like, I was looking at my phone the whole time, you know?

01:04:19.960 The entire, oh, that's a sad thought right there.

01:04:22.180 That's so true.

01:04:22.740 I was just looking at my phone the whole time.

01:04:25.000 Wow.

01:04:25.600 Damn.

01:04:26.500 Look up from the screen.

01:04:27.100 I literally won't even believe I'm dead until I check my phone.

01:04:29.980 Mm-hmm.

01:04:30.560 Did I send that email?

01:04:32.880 I guess you're dying.

01:04:34.080 I swear to God.

01:04:36.880 Yeah, bro.

01:04:37.380 Let me tap right back in here just to finish this.

01:04:40.040 The U.S. government has not officially acknowledged the existence of ghosts as real supernatural entities, but there have been legal and cultural instances where haunted properties or ghost stories were referenced because of their impact on property value or cultural significance.

01:04:52.560 Yeah, there's actually a lot of, like, movies and stuff, obviously, that are based on, like, real-life hauntings and things like that.

01:05:02.420 Like, things happen so crazily, like, over decades, or, like, families get traumatized to the point that they become movies.

01:05:09.460 And what's awesome is you see, especially the recent ones that are happening in the last couple decades, there's so much documentation of them that it's really crazy to back things up and see these stories.

01:05:20.100 And people sometimes have video evidence or audio evidence of, like, people getting possessed and things like that.

01:05:25.440 And so it's really, really cool when we get to, like, go to places like that.

01:05:29.640 Like, for example, I don't know if you just recently saw the Conjuring video or Conjuring movie.

01:05:34.300 The Smurl House or the…

01:05:35.180 The Smurl House.

01:05:36.140 The Smurl House?

01:05:37.000 Sorry, yeah.

01:05:37.440 Yeah, so the Smurl House Conjuring movie just came out.

01:05:42.700 It's called Last Rites, and that was based on the Smurl House.

01:05:46.040 But that was one of the cases that the most famous demonologist ever, Ed and Lorraine Warren, investigated.

01:05:52.580 And there was a demonic entity that was literally, like, petrifying this, like, family for 13 years.

01:05:58.940 Yeah, they described this demonic entity as, like, an 8-foot-tall lizard man with, like, red eyes and scaly, like, scales, I guess you could say.

01:06:07.640 That would physically assault Jack and Janet Smurl, who were the parents, and, like, lift them up from their beds and chuck them against the wall.

01:06:16.420 Holy shit, dude.

01:06:18.020 And they don't have an HOA or anything?

01:06:20.180 Exactly, right?

01:06:21.180 Kick this guy out.

01:06:22.240 That's crazy.

01:06:22.880 Call the plumber.

01:06:24.580 Exactly.

01:06:25.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:06:25.800 Dude, but I believe something like this could happen.

01:06:27.820 The Smurl House haunting refers to a series of widely publicized claims of paranormal activity.

01:06:33.980 You guys tell us about it.

01:06:35.100 I don't need to read this.

01:06:36.200 What else do you guys know about it?

01:06:37.140 Oh, it says here the family's German shepherd was reportedly levitated and slammed into a wall.

01:06:41.140 Yeah, even the dog was attacked.

01:06:43.540 But every single member of the family was attacked.

01:06:45.960 And we're talking, like, they would be picked up and thrown against the wall, like, to the point of, like, the wife, like, broke bones because of the spirit.

01:06:54.940 Like, a little girl in the family was thrown down the staircase.

01:06:58.780 A ceiling fan flew off the ceiling and smacked one of the little girls and almost killed her as well.

01:07:03.920 There were sexual assaults.

01:07:05.280 It was, like, the ghost were, like, physically and sexually assaulting the whole family.

01:07:10.040 It was crazy.

01:07:10.620 That's got to be the worst.

01:07:11.480 Because what if your parents come home?

01:07:12.660 It looks like you're jerking off or whatever.

01:07:15.240 Or you're sitting there just, you know.

01:07:17.460 Experiencing something.

01:07:18.440 Yeah, experiencing something with yourself that you caused.

01:07:21.520 Jerking off.

01:07:22.220 But you're not even doing it.

01:07:25.180 It's not.

01:07:25.900 It's literally, like, this is a demon.

01:07:27.680 And your mom, my mom would still have gotten pissed at me.

01:07:29.920 My mom would have blamed it on me.

01:07:31.840 It's a demon.

01:07:32.780 I'm not even looking at it.

01:07:34.500 You know?

01:07:35.240 Yeah, I can't help this.

01:07:36.040 But, dude, that's how to be so, how did they come and go in their home?

01:07:40.040 Did you guys go there?

01:07:41.000 Well, like, the Smurl House, we were the first people since the demonologist, Ed, Lorraine, Warren, like, we're the first people to investigate it since then 40 years ago.

01:07:49.160 So it was really, really, like, a cool experience to be able to go in there and, like, understand, like, what was the haunting?

01:07:55.480 Like, what would actually happen there?

01:07:56.800 And there's two conjuring houses.

01:07:58.360 There's one that's really famous in Rhode Island, which is the videos that are being played right now.

01:08:02.340 And then there's this one that we haven't released yet.

01:08:04.400 It's coming out for our finale of Hell Month.

01:08:07.780 And, yeah, nobody has been there besides Ed and Lorraine Warren, like, 40 years ago, 50 years ago.

01:08:13.200 Yeah.

01:08:13.620 And did it feel different?

01:08:16.300 Did it come at a different time?

01:08:17.660 Did it start differently?

01:08:18.580 Like, how do you ease into, like, a new place that has a haunting, right, that has an energy like that?

01:08:25.660 Like, do you approach it differently on the way there?

01:08:28.560 Like, do you bring certain things with you to set up an atmosphere?

01:08:32.500 Like, do you bring an altar?

01:08:33.600 Like, is there some sort of, like, precursor to your approach?

01:08:39.120 Definitely.

01:08:39.800 I mean, especially something like that that hasn't been investigated for so long.

01:08:42.680 And actually, at the time, 40 years ago, it was believed that Ed and Lorraine Warren, like, brought in a priest and they did, like, an exorcism and got rid of the demons.

01:08:52.140 So, like, theoretically, this place hasn't really been haunted for the last 40 years.

01:08:56.080 It's just been a regular family home.

01:08:57.700 So when you go back into there, it's mainly like the shell of the home of said spirit.

01:09:01.940 And so in order to, like, make sure we were able to, like, contact the same person, we brought in a witch or a priestess.

01:09:10.080 She's our friend.

01:09:12.340 She actually, like, has helped us with a lot of these types of things and teaching us about the occult.

01:09:16.120 And she brought in a spirit board, which is pretty much like a good Ouija board.

01:09:21.240 It's not like one of those Hasbro ones you buy at Target.

01:09:23.460 It's like the real deal.

01:09:25.340 Like, home.

01:09:25.780 Like what a woodpecker would like.

01:09:27.120 Definitely.

01:09:28.040 Like, homemade, all that stuff.

01:09:29.540 She actually helped with a full-on, like, summoning ritual.

01:09:33.160 And that, like, brought in the spirits around.

01:09:37.060 And we were able to talk to this thing, like, on a Ouija board.

01:09:39.660 And what's absolutely crazy about that is, like, I never really believed in Ouija boards.

01:09:44.740 I just thought, you know, it was a fun gimmick.

01:09:46.580 Like, you know, especially the ones at Target, you know, I guess whatever.

01:09:50.400 But when you do it correctly, like with a witch, it is the most insane experience you've ever had.

01:09:57.260 You put your fingers on this planchette.

01:09:59.960 And I don't know if you've ever seen a Ouija board, but there's a bunch of, like, letters and numbers all over this board.

01:10:04.440 And it said that, you know, you move this planchette around and it spells things out.

01:10:08.960 But the feeling is so unlike anything you've ever felt before, where the wood gets pulled out from underneath your fingertips.

01:10:19.580 It's literally, you can feel a different presence pulling you in directions.

01:10:24.280 Like a magnet almost.

01:10:25.020 Yeah.

01:10:25.420 Of sorts.

01:10:25.800 A magnetism.

01:10:26.500 A magnetism.

01:10:26.940 I never believed in the Ouija board until doing it, like, correctly with professional Pythian priestess.

01:10:32.000 And, like, I remember the first time we did it with her, like, off camera, we were like, did you do that?

01:10:36.400 And he was like, no.

01:10:37.440 Like, you definitely did that.

01:10:38.840 And we were like, hell no.

01:10:39.800 Because, like, our fingers were going, like, this crazy.

01:10:41.700 It was crazy.

01:10:42.480 And it wasn't, like, just, like, a little slow thing.

01:10:44.280 It was, like, sometimes, like, yanking to, like, yes or no or all around the board.

01:10:48.060 Like, what is happening?

01:10:49.240 Like, I don't, I can't believe this.

01:10:51.180 It's out of this world.

01:10:52.800 Well, especially if it was, like, priestess, what's your number or whatever.

01:10:55.440 Then you'd be like, oh, that's definitely, that's holy.

01:10:58.360 Exactly.

01:10:58.680 But that's funny.

01:11:00.280 Like, to that point, though, like, we'd ask questions, especially the first time we did it.

01:11:04.920 We'd be like, the first time we ever did that, the first Conjuring house, we asked the spirit, like, yo, do you like us?

01:11:10.160 And I was like, no.

01:11:10.800 It was like, what do you want from us?

01:11:12.100 And it was like, go away.

01:11:13.480 It was like, leave me.

01:11:14.820 Give me my peace, pretty much.

01:11:16.220 And I was like, damn, okay.

01:11:17.220 They don't fuck with us.

01:11:18.680 It was really sad.

01:11:19.480 Which happens.

01:11:19.860 Which happens.

01:11:20.120 Because, honestly, like, spirits are just, like, people, like, in real life.

01:11:23.860 They're lazy.

01:11:24.300 Yeah.

01:11:24.800 I mean, if there's, like, a bad person you meet in real life, there's probably going to be a bad person in the afterlife.

01:11:29.480 That doesn't mean they're, like, a demonic thing.

01:11:31.760 But, like, yeah, you'll run into, like, bad apple sort of people all the time that just don't want to talk to you or anything, which is understandable.

01:11:38.140 Yeah, that's wild.

01:11:39.180 Yeah, it could just be somebody who's just chilling, somebody who's having lunch or whatever, and you guys are bothering them or something.

01:11:43.800 Exactly.

01:11:44.080 They're like, shut up, dude.

01:11:46.320 Some of them do a Ouija board, and they're like, fuck off.

01:11:48.820 Like, I can't leave.

01:11:49.780 It's like you're, like, calling out, like, you know, cold calling somebody, and they're like, God, just shut up.

01:11:54.880 Like, I don't want to talk right now.

01:11:55.880 Or they're like, I'm gay or whatever.

01:11:57.380 You're like, what?

01:11:57.900 It doesn't matter.

01:11:58.900 What?

01:11:59.320 You're welcome here either way.

01:12:01.200 It's all good.

01:12:02.000 You're safe with us, guys.

01:12:03.200 Yeah, dude.

01:12:03.980 Like, a long time ago, people cared about that, but that's totally normal now, dude.

01:12:07.740 It's just an emotional experience.

01:12:09.100 He's like, really?

01:12:10.380 Some ghost has been waiting forever to come out of the closet, and he finally gets it through a Ouija board, and you're like, dude, nobody cares anymore.

01:12:17.760 Dude, everybody, John, is gay.

01:12:19.580 Yeah, dude.

01:12:20.220 He's like, all right, thank you, guys.

01:12:21.020 70% of people are gay, dude.

01:12:23.080 Chill, bro.

01:12:24.540 Chill.

01:12:25.280 But, dude, what was crazy about this, like, recent experience with the spirit board at the Smurl House.

01:12:29.260 And this was at the Smurl House, and this was where The Conjuring was?

01:12:32.380 Yeah, The Conjuring Last Rites.

01:12:33.480 The Conjuring Last Rites movie, yeah.

01:12:34.580 Okay, got it.

01:12:35.040 Where they filmed it at?

01:12:36.340 No.

01:12:36.980 Where it allegedly happened at?

01:12:38.240 Yeah, based on the true story.

01:12:39.660 Based on the true story of that.

01:12:40.360 They filmed at a replica of this place.

01:12:42.100 Got it.

01:12:42.540 And it's this tiny duplex.

01:12:43.900 Had this been messed with before?

01:12:46.160 Did it look the same as back then?

01:12:48.560 I mean, the family had lived there.

01:12:49.840 Yeah, like, if you look at the old tapes from Ed and Lorraine Warren, the demonologists that helped try to save this house, you'll see, like, exactly the same layout and everything.

01:12:58.380 Like, it looks like it did 40 years ago.

01:13:00.100 Wow.

01:13:00.280 It's really.

01:13:01.440 So, some of these places, it's, like, going back in time, too.

01:13:03.860 Definitely.

01:13:04.640 Yeah.

01:13:05.100 Time capsules.

01:13:06.680 Yeah, we were doing the spirit board session in the living room of this duplex.

01:13:09.880 And, again, like, imagine just, like, a regular house.

01:13:12.740 Like, there was literally Cheez-Its, like, on, like, the counter and stuff like that.

01:13:16.540 Like, yeah, somebody lived there.

01:13:18.280 And we uncovered the craziest evidence about the Smurl family that could actually get us in trouble.

01:13:24.400 No joke.

01:13:25.280 And so, like, when this comes out, like, on Halloween, dude, it's going to cause, like, an uproar in, like, the paranormal community of things.

01:13:33.200 It's going to be crazy.

01:13:34.820 That's what I'm talking about.

01:13:35.900 Yes, sir.

01:13:36.560 Dude, I wonder if there's, like, an apparent, like, a bus stop that had, like, a crazy, like, a lot of people.

01:13:42.460 I'm just trying to think of neat places that aren't, like, kind of, like, that aren't, like, a building or something where you could investigate also.

01:13:54.780 Have there been places like that?

01:13:56.620 Yeah.

01:13:57.160 I mean.

01:13:58.200 Where there's not, like, an edifice, like, an entity, like, a building, like a.

01:14:01.500 Yeah.

01:14:01.760 I mean, like, to that point, you would think that everywhere could be potentially haunted, right?

01:14:06.600 Like, it doesn't have to be a location.

01:14:08.600 It's just maybe places that are a location have more energy or they were a home in a past life.

01:14:14.660 And so, it's, like, more likely.

01:14:15.920 Like you said, maybe a bus stop or maybe, you know, like, a favorite area to play is, like, on a playground or something like that as a kid.

01:14:23.320 You don't know.

01:14:23.980 Maybe something has a deeper meaning or connection to a human and that could be haunted as well.

01:14:28.060 Yeah.

01:14:28.200 There's a lot of times, like, we'll go to a spot and it's not, like, haunted by something, like, evil or scary.

01:14:32.720 But sometimes there was, you know, like, a big, like, like, for example, we own a spot called Farrar Elementary in Iowa.

01:14:39.240 And it used to be, like.

01:14:39.820 For our elementary?

01:14:41.200 Farrar.

01:14:41.520 Farrar.

01:14:42.080 Farrar Elementary.

01:14:43.240 It's a school?

01:14:44.220 It's a real school?

01:14:45.200 Real school.

01:14:45.760 It's y'all.

01:14:46.080 You guys own it?

01:14:46.700 We own it.

01:14:47.400 We're principals.

01:14:48.600 We're principals.

01:14:49.360 Hell yeah, dude.

01:14:50.300 I hope the spirits and the students there.

01:14:51.800 And is it functional?

01:14:54.200 It's functional for, like, ghost hunting tours.

01:14:55.940 Oh, okay.

01:14:56.460 It's not like a rabbit school.

01:14:57.160 It closed down, like, I don't know.

01:14:58.660 It was a abandoned school.

01:14:59.580 Like, decades ago.

01:15:00.080 Got it.

01:15:00.460 Yeah.

01:15:00.840 Dude, that's sick.

01:15:02.420 Yeah, there it is.

01:15:03.220 Yeah, we own the school.

01:15:04.920 But it used to be a hub, like, what, like, 100 years ago where, like, a lot of people would just go there and party.

01:15:10.620 So, all the spirits there or a lot of the spirits there just, like, hang around because it was a cool spot in life.

01:15:15.740 It was the, like, center of the town.

01:15:16.940 So, not only was it an elementary school at the time, but it was also where people, like, got married.

01:15:21.100 It's also where people had dances.

01:15:22.480 They had basketball games.

01:15:23.400 They had everything at this, like, one area.

01:15:25.480 And so, a lot of the spirits there are, like, really nice.

01:15:28.080 So, it's cool.

01:15:29.920 And even, like, outside of this area, like, even in the woods or the playground, there's always going to be, like, haunted locations.

01:15:37.580 Crazy.

01:15:38.620 It's interesting to think about how I show up to places and then what I want out of them.

01:15:42.800 Whether that place is an actual building, you know, or if it's to show up to spirits, whatever you want, you know.

01:15:50.420 It's just about, like, how I show up and what do I want.

01:15:53.240 Right.

01:15:53.700 You know, that could be if I'm going to get an education, if I'm going to summon an entity.

01:15:57.540 It could be anything, you know.

01:15:58.460 Yeah.

01:15:58.740 If I'm going to have a relationship with somebody, you know.

01:16:01.340 So true.

01:16:01.900 Dude, I freaking texted this girl today, dude.

01:16:04.580 I'm afraid to look at my phone because I don't know if she's texting me back, dude.

01:16:08.140 Yeah.

01:16:08.780 Is that it?

01:16:09.380 What was the opening line?

01:16:10.620 Can you spell?

01:16:12.300 Yeah.

01:16:12.700 Like, I met her the other night and I felt like we, like, had some chemistry, right?

01:16:17.400 All right.

01:16:17.680 Like, I felt like there was something there, right?

01:16:19.360 Cool.

01:16:20.160 You know when you feel like there's something there?

01:16:21.840 Yeah.

01:16:22.200 You know when you meet someone, you feel like there's something there, right?

01:16:24.700 Because you meet a lot of people, there's nothing there.

01:16:26.320 Sometimes you pretend there's something there.

01:16:27.600 Sometimes you have two drinks and pretend there's something there.

01:16:29.800 It's like.

01:16:29.980 Right.

01:16:30.500 The two drinks can create something there.

01:16:32.160 Yeah.

01:16:32.820 Those are, those are, and those are not real.

01:16:35.520 That's just you making your own EMFs, right?

01:16:37.780 Exactly.

01:16:38.140 But, uh, but I felt like there was something there.

01:16:41.960 So I got her number and then I sent her a text today.

01:16:44.040 I said, uh, Hey, my buddy was thinking about asking you out.

01:16:48.560 Also, my buddy is me.

01:16:50.380 Oh, she's going to fucking say no, dude.

01:16:56.540 Fuck.

01:16:57.100 Where's your confidence level on here?

01:16:58.620 One to 10.

01:16:59.440 Like you think you feel good about this?

01:17:01.340 No.

01:17:02.240 Shit.

01:17:03.260 It'll be all right.

01:17:04.380 It'll be all right.

01:17:05.140 It'll be all right, dude.

01:17:06.600 I don't know.

01:17:08.580 But I was screaming afterwards.

01:17:10.980 Like there was an entity in me of like, that always got rid of, that is just constantly

01:17:14.960 rejected.

01:17:15.760 That energy was fucking summoning like the most rejection in the world.

01:17:20.740 But anyway.

01:17:21.860 You got to summon that positivity.

01:17:23.460 Yeah, you're right.

01:17:24.320 I got to change that up a little bit.

01:17:26.180 What are some of the most haunted places in America?

01:17:28.680 Have you, do we, is there even a map that shows that I'm sure you guys know this?

01:17:33.040 Oh yeah.

01:17:33.500 There's a bunch that are like really, really cool.

01:17:35.120 So, um, what's the most haunted state?

01:17:37.240 Do you know it?

01:17:38.280 Probably on the East coast somewhere.

01:17:39.820 Yeah.

01:17:40.260 East coast is like, you got to think it's just way older, you know?

01:17:43.740 So like way more history has happened in there.

01:17:47.400 Um, but yeah, there, there's a couple that are like really, really cool.

01:17:50.900 So obviously the conjuring house that we talked about is a massive place in Rhode

01:17:55.700 Island.

01:17:56.420 There's a couple of really, really cool spots like the Winchester mystery house.

01:18:00.680 I don't know if you've ever heard of that.

01:18:01.920 There is a house in San Jose, California that has like 130 rooms or something like

01:18:09.320 that.

01:18:09.740 It's insane.

01:18:10.760 It was built for like almost a century, uh, purely to try to like, you know, like,

01:18:17.720 have you ever heard of a Winchester rifles at all?

01:18:20.360 So it was that, that family like owned this estate.

01:18:23.380 Yeah.

01:18:23.780 And it's believed that actually this has become like some sort of, uh, hub for spirits.

01:18:29.620 Like there's so many rooms and it's so like known to be haunted that, that people bring

01:18:33.920 spirits.

01:18:34.340 They like drop their spirits off here.

01:18:35.940 It's almost like a grand central station for spirits now.

01:18:39.780 Uh, and yeah, this is definitely one of the most haunted places.

01:18:42.400 Like the Hogwarts train station.

01:18:43.820 Yeah.

01:18:44.580 Exactly.

01:18:45.180 Yeah.

01:18:45.340 That's so cool.

01:18:46.020 You guys went there?

01:18:46.880 Yeah.

01:18:47.160 A couple of times.

01:18:47.900 It's really crazy.

01:18:49.200 I mean, even if you don't believe in ghosts, it's one of the coolest things in the United

01:18:52.740 States.

01:18:53.120 It's pretty magnificent, huh?

01:18:54.300 Yeah.

01:18:54.500 And where is that located?

01:18:56.120 San Jose.

01:18:57.160 California.

01:18:57.600 Oh, interesting.

01:18:58.200 And it's crazy because like all, none of the architecture makes sense.

01:19:02.700 It's like, there will be three, three steps up to a floor and then seven steps down to

01:19:07.980 another floor or like staircases that lead to nowhere or like a door that if you open

01:19:14.020 on the second floor, we'll just drop you down and you'll fall off.

01:19:16.620 Like there's no patio or anything.

01:19:18.520 It's like the most bizarre thing you've ever seen.

01:19:21.180 Uh, and it's pretty, it's pretty spectacular.

01:19:23.260 Wow.

01:19:24.920 It's crazy.

01:19:25.620 There's things like that or like, uh, on the other side of the United States, there's

01:19:29.180 this thing called the Trans-Allegheny Lunatic Asylum and it's like the second biggest asylum

01:19:33.780 like ever made or something.

01:19:35.440 And there's like hundreds of rooms, uh, about people that used to get lobotomies.

01:19:40.200 And so it's a pretty tortured, tortured spot.

01:19:43.040 It's one of the creepiest places we've ever been.

01:19:45.520 Wow.

01:19:45.960 That place looks magnificent.

01:19:47.220 It almost looks like, um, University of Syracuse.

01:19:50.740 It's as big as a university.

01:19:52.080 And this, that building right there is only one of like 20 on the property.

01:19:56.240 It's a historic former psychiatric hospital located in Weston, West Virginia.

01:20:00.840 Best known for its haunting atmosphere, architectural significance, and role in the history of mental

01:20:05.180 health care in the U.S.

01:20:07.640 The asylum originally followed the Kirkbride Plan, a psychiatric hospital designed emphasizing

01:20:13.040 space, light, and therapeutic architecture.

01:20:15.680 Um, many patients were admitted for reasons now considered unscientific, such as asthma,

01:20:22.500 laziness, and domestic troubles.

01:20:25.940 If you beat your wife, like you could go to this asylum.

01:20:29.920 Even if you tickle her hard, if she's sensitive.

01:20:33.360 Dude, people would get admitted like, like husbands would drop their wives over there if

01:20:37.540 they were like reading a bad book or something.

01:20:39.540 It was bad.

01:20:40.080 Like pretty much you could just leave your wife to die type of thing.

01:20:42.760 Um, but yeah, in that specific location and the asylum was one of our crazy expenses ever,

01:20:49.080 we were just asking out to see if anything could, you know, do a knock or give us a sign or

01:20:54.680 whatever.

01:20:54.920 And between Colby and I, we heard like a pretty scary old man voice say the word Lily, like in our ears.

01:21:05.400 And it was like, what?

01:21:06.500 And apparently like, yeah, we asked around and Lily is a spirit that is known to be like a child figure.

01:21:14.200 That's actually more of like this darker entity, but like we heard it with our ears and there's like three other

01:21:20.160 people that were around that also like vouched for us and then we're like, wait, no, there was

01:21:24.700 another voice that was not in between you two that talked and the camera caught it.

01:21:30.480 So it's on camera, but the recorder that we were using, asking questions, didn't.

01:21:35.100 So it makes no sense that like the voice could only show up on one thing.

01:21:38.760 Unless the gig, the Hertz of it or something was a certain, is it called Hertz?

01:21:42.140 What is it called?

01:21:43.000 Yeah.

01:21:43.620 Something frequency.

01:21:44.700 Yeah.

01:21:45.100 Unless the frequency of it, the audio frequency of it was a certain pitch or pentameter or something.

01:21:48.700 I believe there's so many different like frequencies that we just do not have the ability to, uh,

01:21:56.600 calculate.

01:21:57.640 Yeah.

01:21:58.060 Hearing or seeing like, you just look at this color scale of what I can see and it's just

01:22:02.440 nothing.

01:22:02.880 It's like, I don't know, like 10% of the actual, I don't know, whatever you look at.

01:22:07.140 Yeah.

01:22:07.180 We only have five senses, dude.

01:22:08.920 Yeah.

01:22:09.720 And they're great.

01:22:10.600 I'm not saying anything, God, they're good.

01:22:12.160 But I'm also saying, dude, what if we had like 40 senses and we're pulling in all that

01:22:17.360 information?

01:22:17.860 Yeah.

01:22:18.460 Who knows?

01:22:19.540 Maybe we will one day when we die.

01:22:22.340 What, what, what's one last thing we could go in that would be good for you guys?

01:22:25.060 You guys think that's interesting.

01:22:26.560 Oh, maybe what would make you stay around to be a ghost?

01:22:30.020 That's so funny.

01:22:31.480 Um, honestly, if Sam still had the YouTube channel and I passed away, I would just like

01:22:35.880 make that shit viral as hell.

01:22:37.320 Like I'd be following him to every, like every haunted place and just shove them down the

01:22:41.640 stairs.

01:22:42.200 Just like torment me.

01:22:43.620 But I'm like, hell yeah, this is the craziest video ever.

01:22:45.860 Like, Colby, are you here?

01:22:46.500 And you just fall down a flat of stairs.

01:22:48.140 Slap me in the face.

01:22:49.080 Just, oh, he's here, guys.

01:22:50.840 Bro, I want to levitate.

01:22:52.160 So if you can do that, that'd be great.

01:22:54.120 Dude, thank you.

01:22:54.600 Thank you guys so much, man.

01:22:55.640 This has been awesome, dude.

01:22:56.680 Yeah.

01:22:56.900 Thanks for having us.

01:22:57.640 This has been awesome.

01:22:58.460 It's been cool.

01:22:59.240 It's been good to get to meet you guys and just like, uh, you know, we can just stay

01:23:02.500 in touch or something, you know, this has been fun and I needed something that was just

01:23:06.760 a good conversation, you know?

01:23:08.020 So thank you.

01:23:08.620 Yeah.

01:23:08.720 I love how open you are about this.

01:23:10.080 I mean, a lot of people like, ah, the ghost or whatever, that's not real.

01:23:12.880 But I feel like you, you get the mindset that we're going to with it, whether or not

01:23:16.500 you believe in it or not.

01:23:17.360 Like, I like the mindset.

01:23:19.080 Yeah.

01:23:19.420 I think, well, I think it surprised me, you know, cause, uh, Dave Attela is one of my favorite

01:23:23.420 jokes.

01:23:23.720 He's like, um, I was watching and I'm paraphrasing it, but he's like, I was watching, uh, ghost

01:23:30.260 hunters the other day.

01:23:31.120 It involves two of my favorite things, wandering around aimlessly and sheer disappointment.

01:23:38.520 So funny.

01:23:39.660 And I've always loved that joke.

01:23:41.420 It's so good.

01:23:42.140 Right.

01:23:42.800 That's hilarious.

01:23:43.500 I never had thought of it in the sense of like, I want something to be here.

01:23:48.660 Right.

01:23:49.280 I want something to be here.

01:23:51.060 And I've been thinking about stuff like that in my life recently.

01:23:53.000 And just like meeting God halfway, meeting the spirits halfway that are out there.

01:23:56.200 Like, how can I show up to receive the best things that are out there waiting for me?

01:24:02.360 You know?

01:24:03.320 Um, and that would also kind of translate to real life too.

01:24:05.580 Like whether that's spiritual or like, like you said, like show up to your next like friend

01:24:09.320 gathering or your family or like your relationship, like putting in the effort to get what you

01:24:14.080 want out of it.

01:24:15.020 Yeah.

01:24:15.340 Right.

01:24:15.560 Like sometimes I want my holidays to be great and I'll just think that somebody else is going

01:24:18.820 to make them great.

01:24:19.540 Like I go there, I go in the living room, I yell about a casserole or something.

01:24:24.960 You know what I'm saying?

01:24:25.660 Hopefully it shows up.

01:24:26.340 That thing.

01:24:26.700 I talk shit and I take a nap.

01:24:29.060 Then I eat a nap and then I leave and I'm like, God, I wish our family had connected better.

01:24:34.020 Like fuck that casserole by the way.

01:24:36.020 But it's like, that's what I brought to it, you know?

01:24:38.620 Right.

01:24:38.880 But I'm still expecting this other thing.

01:24:40.460 So I think, um, just having a whole nother way to look at that and then to ask, like

01:24:46.340 if I wanted to like my father's passed away, everybody has family members that have passed

01:24:49.300 away, but to say, Hey dad, I'm thinking about you today.

01:24:52.060 Yeah.

01:24:53.040 Share with me what you're thinking, you know, think with me, feel with me.

01:24:56.700 I want to feel your feelings today or I want to know you love me today.

01:25:00.560 Like not be afraid to speak out.

01:25:03.020 Like we have this voice in this thing.

01:25:04.900 Like when we open our hands up to the world, to the sky, to the universe, you feel something,

01:25:09.460 right?

01:25:09.940 That's not mythological.

01:25:12.000 And so I think that, that, uh, this is just a great reminder.

01:25:16.000 Um, uh, before you guys go, is there a goat of ghost hunting?

01:25:20.900 Is there a, is there someone like who was the first ghost hunter?

01:25:26.020 Like, is there a goat?

01:25:27.440 Probably Ed and Lorraine Warren are like the goats.

01:25:29.760 They're more demonologists though.

01:25:31.160 If you want to get technical about it.

01:25:33.000 Um, also Zach Bagans is our king.

01:25:35.820 Zach Bagans is our father, dude.

01:25:37.660 Zach Bagans.

01:25:38.560 Zach Bagans.

01:25:39.920 Have you ever heard of him?

01:25:41.000 He has this crazy museum out in Vegas.

01:25:43.680 I really recommend going to.

01:25:45.300 He is the father of paranormal.

01:25:46.960 He does TV ghost adventures.

01:25:48.660 If you've seen that show.

01:25:49.620 Like the, the ghosts are scared of him, you know, like, like, like, obviously.

01:25:53.140 Macho dude.

01:25:54.880 Tall.

01:25:56.000 Strong.

01:25:56.320 Yeah, he's like the kid rock of ghosts kind of.

01:25:58.160 Yo, what's up?

01:25:59.060 Sexy.

01:25:59.700 What are you talking about?

01:26:00.800 Okay.

01:26:01.260 Everybody loves him.

01:26:02.320 Well, uh.

01:26:02.980 Maybe just me.

01:26:04.440 Dude, yeah.

01:26:04.920 If you have, if you ever go to Vegas, you should go to his museum.

01:26:07.500 He's like, it's actually like really sick.

01:26:09.500 Not gonna lie.

01:26:10.500 Uh, he has a bunch of like haunted objects and we actually got to hold some of the most

01:26:15.380 like haunted dolls in the world, um, here, which is like really, really crazy.

01:26:19.220 Uh, yeah, there's something special that people about to collect, collect these things and

01:26:24.340 put these types of situations together.

01:26:26.280 Yeah.

01:26:26.680 Um, happy early Halloween guys.

01:26:29.760 Yeah.

01:26:29.880 Happy Halloween.

01:26:31.220 It's an exciting time.

01:26:32.240 It's always been my favorite holiday.

01:26:33.560 Same.

01:26:34.120 By far.

01:26:34.720 It's the best holiday.

01:26:36.160 You know, only for the spooky stuff, but also just like dressing up.

01:26:39.120 I feel like the vibes are happier now.

01:26:42.060 Yeah.

01:26:42.180 It's kind of the only time people even go talk to their neighbors anymore is you'll run

01:26:44.760 over there for candy, poison candy, like give me some candy.

01:26:52.080 People don't even know their neighbors, but now they will send their kids.

01:26:55.580 They'll send a kid covered in a sheet, right?

01:26:57.560 With two eye holes that are barely running right through traffic just to go get a baby

01:27:01.840 snicker.

01:27:02.400 It's a beautiful season.

01:27:03.640 It really is.

01:27:04.480 It's a great time.

01:27:05.880 It's a beautiful season.

01:27:07.160 It's time to be alive for sure.

01:27:08.340 Happy Halloween.

01:27:09.280 Sam and Colby, you guys is a hell week.

01:27:11.300 We'll be out over the next month and those episodes are coming out and people can tap

01:27:16.260 into what's going on with you guys.

01:27:18.520 Yeah.

01:27:18.860 Thanks for just all the years of entertainment to your commitment to it.

01:27:21.520 I'm sure it's been challenging and in certain moments and we didn't get to talk about some

01:27:25.180 of that kind of stuff, dude.

01:27:26.140 But yeah, this is just awesome, man.

01:27:28.260 I really appreciate y'all's time.

01:27:29.620 And yeah, I'll keep in mind if there's something that I feel that's a little bit haunted that

01:27:33.960 I want to get back to.

01:27:35.180 Let us know.

01:27:35.940 Sounds good, man.

01:27:36.540 I wish we could travel into our past and deal with a spirit there.

01:27:39.740 I wonder if there's a way to kind of like.

01:27:42.540 There's a lot of like past life regression talk that like people kind of see themselves

01:27:47.320 in past lives and like, yeah, or be haunted in past lives type of thing, which is really

01:27:51.540 interesting.

01:27:53.120 But hold on to that story for another time.

01:27:55.820 Amen, brother.

01:27:56.380 You guys have a good one.

01:27:57.240 Yeah.

01:27:57.500 Thank you, man.

01:27:57.880 You too.

01:27:58.160 Yeah, thanks.

01:27:58.600 Now I'm just falling on the breeze and I feel I'm falling like these leaves.

01:28:04.800 I must be cornerstone.

01:28:09.740 Oh, but when I reach that ground, I'll share this peace of mind I found.

01:28:15.500 I can feel it in my bones.

01:28:19.820 But it's gonna take...

01:28:21.740 I can feel it in my bones again.

01:28:32.500 Oh, girl.

01:28:33.560 Oh, I can feel it.

01:28:34.880 I can feel it in my bones.

01:28:41.640 You should.

01:28:43.400 Thanks.

This Past Weekend with Theo Von - October 17, 2025

#618 - Sam and Colby

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