#622 - Miles Teller
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1 hour and 45 minutes
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Actor Miles Teller joins Jemele to discuss his new movie, Eternity, and how he grew up in a small town in Louisiana. Plus, he talks about how he got into acting, and what it's like to grow up in the Deep South.
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Today's guest is an actor, one of the greats of our time, some people would say.
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You may know him from some of his many films, Whiplash, War Dogs, Top Gun 2.
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And he has a new movie, Eternity, that comes out November 26th.
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I've met him before, and I'm grateful to sit down and spend time with him today.
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Yeah, our sister-in-law, or Kelly's sister, my sister-in-law, brother-in-law, they just moved to, I think they bought a spot in fucking Troubadour.
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Oh yeah, dude, remember, that's the first time I met you.
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I would pay somebody to fucking realistically fill that bitch in.
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Well, and especially like, you'll see a lot of perverts will be like, oh, look at the
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I'm like, those aren't, those are horns, you idiot.
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But yeah, you'll see people just hang Mardi Gras bees and stuff on.
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So there's like, you know, the stuff, the artifacts they keep in there are a little bit
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different, like a beer bottle, you know, or like shit that's just a little bit more
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I mean, I grew up a lot of my, half my life, I grew up in central Florida.
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So I imagine it would be similar kind of museums.
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Well, yeah, but also like the Daily Show came to my county twice when I was growing
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The one is because they have a cooter festival, which is a type of turtle.
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And then the other one, it was like Ed Helms came because the town next to mine banned the
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And it was the, it was the town of Inglis, like some pretty backwoods, like Citrus counties
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where, you know, I went to middle school, high school.
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Bro, that's amazing that they, first of all, this is, oh, it looks like cooter Tober just
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Well, they're, they're really kind of, I guess, branching out.
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You could probably do it for every, every month.
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Anything that ends in an R, I think you're, you're, you're good, dude.
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Like it says, apparently it was discontinued for a bit.
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This year we're returning with all your favorite events, like the Cooter Carnival, small town
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They must not have discovered it for a while or they must not have given it, they must not
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have celebrated it as much because it didn't, I remember that they didn't start like
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Cooter Fest until like I was, I don't even know if I was still in high school, I might
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Cause I've heard of people using like kind of slang, well, goats for like bestiality.
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But if they were, if this would be the worst thing to try to invade a species, you know,
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The cooter turtle got its name from the African word Kuta, which means turtle in the Bambara
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I just saw a woman, they have a woman that has two cooters actually.
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There is a woman who has two vaginas that's on TikTok.
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She sent a DM the other day to me the other day.
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So I'm at my boy's wedding and we're, he's from, he's from Ohio.
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We're at the, you know, reception now, the after reception.
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We're all just hanging out in the hotel room and the one dude's like, yo, do you remember,
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uh, you remember that girl went to high school with, with two vaginas?
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And he's like, dude, you're talking about Cheryl.
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And then his other buddy's like, yo, double barrel Cheryl.
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And I just thought that was the funniest fucking nickname I've ever heard in my life.
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I was like, that's got to go in some American pie type movie.
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So as soon as you started talking about that, I was like, oh, I have one.
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But she used to, apparently she used to say like, this one's for my boyfriend.
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Cause I would just, I would, if I had both, I would, dude, you'd blow them both.
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No, I'd be like, I'm saving this one for after dinner or whatever.
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This one's, this one's closing in on five stars.
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And the other one for something that's 3.8 stars.
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We didn't, we weren't, we weren't fortunate enough to get a woman like this in our area.
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I was born with two vaginas, two uteruses, and two cervixes.
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And that instead, my food pipe was connected into my air pipe going into my lungs.
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I feel like our tone should have been a little different when we were talking about, I'm sure
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Oh, well, that would be very tough if you were, especially like when you're in high
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school and stuff and your body, you're going through a perpity and whatever, and you're
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Unless they will operate different frequencies.
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Like that's, that's like, there's no hiding that you got, you got two ready to rock, dude.
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But if you could time them out, you know, as soon as the one's done, other boy, like
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a pentameter, almost like a drummer, like NAS, like your one's just getting the tires, you
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The other one's like, you know, doing a hot lab.
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It'd be like a, if they had a cool pentameter kind of tool.
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You went to their, I saw you went to their 60th.
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I, um, yeah, I mean, I've seen, I've seen them at the Sphere.
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I've seen kind of this iteration, Dead & Co. for, I think pretty much since John started,
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Uh, but even before that I was seeing, you know, some different versions of them and, you
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know, Bob Weir and, uh, you know, Phil Lesh kind of independently, but yeah,
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It's honestly like when our house burned down, like the thing that I was probably one of
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the things I was most upset about was all of these vintage Grateful Dead shirts, but
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I don't have Instagram or anything, but they reached out to Kelly and were like, Hey, you
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know, deadheads, they were like, we feel so bad for you guys.
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And we know if our house burned down, we would really miss those shirts.
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Can we send you some from our own, you know, collection?
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So a bunch of people, um, shout out to you, uh, you know, just send me shirts.
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Um, I feel like all those, you know, bands from, from that era, especially the dead who
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really kind of supported, you know, everybody there's their crowds were rainbow colored before
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So people just, uh, sent you different ones that did they, is that one of them?
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No, this one, this one, I think I got up in San Francisco.
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That was just for like three days, but I was like, I don't, I don't know what pants I'm
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Um, it's kind of the only stuff I post about is like, yeah, even my, I guess my bio quote
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My brother has a big Jerry Garcia tattoo on his chest.
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We got to go together actually and see them at the sphere one time.
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Our producer Zach went and saw them, uh, I believe for two nights in San Francisco.
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I thought, um, yeah, I mean, they're all amazing.
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I mean, I, I just think overall Saturday, Saturday night was kind of the best night.
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It's hard because you can look at the, you can look at the set list, but usually at least
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one of those weekend shows, they, they just catch lightning in a bottle.
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And I think that's the beauty of the band is that you're never going to hear the same
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song twice, but because it's so improvisational, um, and they're on the ride with you, you
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Um, and they are, there's such, I mean, the skillset from all those guys so high, but it's
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People think it's like, you're just high and just sitting there.
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It's like, no, that music makes me boogie, dude.
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If you're not sweating, you're not trying either.
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I think maybe some of that's the Florida thing, but it's like, I grew up with a thin
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Oh, in Louisiana, you can't even land a handshake with people.
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If it's humid day, you'll see people trying to land a handshake for fucking 30 seconds,
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It's just, that's the kind of place it is, man.
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I always say it's like, yeah, you have a thought and you're sweating.
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But that air too, like when you get off the plane, because we would always fly into
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Tampa, like you get off that plane, it's just a huff.
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It feels like the air has a little bit of an infection, to be honest with you.
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When I feel that like air at night, it just, it just makes me feel like mischievous.
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Cause when I was like all those teenage years, just, you know, at sunsets, you know, get
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on a bike, just figure out some shit to do in your neighborhood.
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But like that air just makes me kind of, yeah, relapse, I guess it makes, dude, there
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Like, uh, there's something about, I even think about this, like if you ever stay at
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a, if you ever at a place that doesn't have air conditioning, right?
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Like at first you're like, most of Europe, dude, you're like, this sucks.
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But then I feel like your dreams and everything is more acclimated to the actual climate of
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Um, and I always feel like I get, like, I have like, like, like more imaginative or
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creative dreams whenever, um, I'm in a place that doesn't have air conditioning for some
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Um, but yeah, that South dude, that shit hits you hard, dude.
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I think, I don't know if we were, uh, it could have been like marshmallow.
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Maybe it was one night we were both in Las Vegas after a UFC fight.
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It might've been that one when Ed Sheeran was there.
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Even if you're just by yourself, you are doing your own thing.
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It's like, some people would think like, Oh, miles tell her.
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Like, he's just going to be like this cool guy.
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But he just, but I mean, he flew his top gun plane.
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He's going to sit like, you know, dude, I love it.
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It's like, you decide that I'm going to have a good time for me.
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And it almost like inspires like, God, I wish I could be that free.
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And somebody, I heard something a while back and it's not something I like think about,
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but they were like, you know, if you're having a party or wherever you're, you're a group
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of people, you're not sure everybody, they said like the number one way to kind of try
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and have everybody, make everybody have a good time is just start, just have a good time
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And I think that, but also I've just always like rhythm, yeah, dancing.
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That's something I've just always kind of got down with.
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Like that's how I, I, I just, yeah, I love it, but yeah, any, I mean that DJ music, but
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I was like Bob Seger, like classic rock gets me, gets me going, dude.
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Let alone if there's, you know, some rock piano, I love that shit.
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Where'd you, did you go somewhere for blues or?
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It's a, I think it's kind of a, it's a bit of a touristy spot kind of, but I think we're
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And, um, and so we went and we had a great time.
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It was actually a guy from new Orleans that was playing.
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And so, uh, we just sat there and had a, and just had a nice time.
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As my mom gets older, she almost turns into a child a little bit.
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And there's moments where it's almost like it's a kid there, you know, but like, just
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like in an older body, um, like what just the, the, the fascination, the kind of, it
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feels near to her kind of, it's a good question.
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It almost feels like pure and some innocence to it.
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She looks a bit like, she look a bit like Willie Nelson.
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Uh, and my mom's like, my mom's like best friend.
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Uh, my mom says she's like the only one who pronounces her name correctly.
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And then some of the, I just remember like some of the like, not, they're not your uncles,
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but like these guys live in the neighborhood and they just all seem like kind of pervy.
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They were like family, friends and shit, but just some based on the, I don't know.
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I just feel like when I watch these old home videos, it's, you'll just hear some, you're
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So they'll say like, Mary, then they'll go, all right, can't do it.
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That's going to, that's going to raise a few flags, dude.
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She was, she did real estate for a while, but yeah, no, not working.
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And are they enjoying, has it gotten weird for them since they're both retired?
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Have they all, cause you know, some couples it gets weird cause they're, they're both at
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I'm, I mean, I see a good amount, but I, I'm sure.
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A lot of guys, the second they realize that there have to be in the house, like when the
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retirement happens, like, Oh God, there's no way to go.
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I think he just wanted to be, he still needed some time alone.
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I mean, I don't have kids yet, but I, I imagine, you know, yeah.
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Cause growing up, my dad would, you know, he'd be like working on the pool or something or
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just be fiddling with stuff in the garage for like hours.
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My buddy's dad collected all these toy trains and stuff.
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And whenever we'd go over there, he'd have to set it all up, dude.
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It would take, we just, like around the holidays, around Christmas or something.
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I think it was any time he started to lose his mind and he would just set that bitch up
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And, uh, and we, he'd have to set, he'd have to do the train and it was just like, oh, you
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want to support your friend's parents, but it was just a lot.
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It's a lot to watch somebody do the toy train a lot.
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Uh, his nickname was fingers cause he was missing like a couple of them, but he had
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Thankfully, that's the reason why, dude, because there's a bus full of kids.
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And he'd always point at you with the, with the nub.
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But he had this belt buckle cause we're just talking about collecting weird shit or whatever,
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but he had this belt buckle that was, uh, looked like he had hand glued on like silver
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I thought it was cool as shit when I was a kid.
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Oh dude, the stuff you thought was cool when you were a kid was so great, dude.
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But even like you said earlier, like I remember, I was talking about this the other day, whenever
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like the sun, like if you were playing in the street with your friends and it was like
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somebody was pitching the ball, you're like one more pitch, but the sun was setting and
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Like you knew you were going to try to hit a home or like it just, the game, it didn't,
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it wasn't even, it was just like just these moments when you were a kid, everything was so
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severe or if you rode your bike at night, just anything like that.
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Like in Jess, I think the beauty, you know, just riding bike and in general, man, it just
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Um, I got, I knocked myself out once playing this game.
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Uh, I got a bunch of concussions when I was younger, but my sister just graduated like
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So we grabbed a basketball and like an aluminum bat and we're like, I will play basketball.
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I hit it the first time, you know, it's like, it's my guy, I got to grip it tighter.
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Second time, fucking metal bat with a rubber ball, dude.
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Dude, I can't believe, yeah, you mentioned, I forgot that you guys lost your, you lost your home.
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Was that your, we, you know, and I was filming a movie in London and our, we had a house in Studio City and that house got robbed while I was filming.
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And so I thought I was just going to like, I thought we'd go back after filming, kind of bump up security measures, re-fortifying.
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She's like, they, you know, they go through all of her stuff.
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And honestly, I would say it was the first kind of neighborhood in LA where my wife, A, felt really safe.
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And then B, would be like excited to, to go back to LA whenever we'd be filming.
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I never heard her say that in like the 12 years we'd been dating.
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And, and yeah, we like worked with some designers.
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And I had this feeling last night, cause we're in this rental, you know, obviously we've, we've been in rentals and I was just laying in bed.
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I was like, man, this, you know, we're in a, the place we're in is, you know, it's a nice place.
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We don't have to worry about the, you know, the water, the air, the, you know, it's, it's really well done.
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But at the same time, it just, it fucks with your mind when you can't look around at any point and see anything that reminds you of your life.
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You know, everything is just, there's no attachment to, to anything.
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My, um, but my, no, honestly it's, it's, but to be fair, the first picture I saw, Kelly and I saw from our fucking house to know that it was actually burnt down was from TMZ.
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Um, and also they just, because they started, the first homes they're talking about are like celebrity homes.
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And that's not fair because the community of the Palisades, all of our neighbors and that community, honestly, were people that had lived there for like 30, 40 years.
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It was, um, you know, it's people that had like, you know, raise their kids there.
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And a lot of those people, you know, their home burns down at like 70 years old.
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Um, but you know, there was like a little elementary school across the street and they had these dudes on bikes with, you know, like wooden boxes behind them.
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They would, you know, ride the kids home from school.
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It really was like, like that movie Pleasantville.
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We used to get a lot of recovery meetings up there and it was just like, it'd be the most nicest thing on Saturday.
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I lived down, I lived like two blocks, maybe even one block from that church.
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Cause my buddy said he used to have meetings over there.
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They had some of the best meetings in the world were there really.
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Um, and it was just such a special energy of there.
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If you go walk and go over to that, uh, that smoothie shop that's over there and they got
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And then they got the little restaurant right across the street from it.
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Um, that's a right near that Starbucks in that big pink, like that whole village.
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No, it's like, there's that Starbucks in the corner and there's that little place that
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has breakfast and like right around the corner from it.
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But yeah, we'd go park at the Gelson's and sit there and people would talk before the
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AA meetings and then we'd walk over to the meeting together.
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But it was just a nice, it was like, yeah, man, that place is, it's a great place.
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Were you guys able to go in and get stuff out or what was that like?
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And, uh, I mean, so like when the fire, when the fire started, like we could see it start
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from, cause in that area of Via de La Paz, you kind of, you have a good vantage point.
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So we could see like where the fire started and I'll say it was probably about three and
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a half, four miles maybe, uh, at our 12 o'clock and the winds really weren't that
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Um, it was scary because we were seeing the fire, you know, start to encroach on some
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And so you're watching a home, you know, with this fire going towards the home, you're
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just feeling for that, that family, whoever's there and then turn on the news.
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And because there's one road out, I mean, it was already kind of like, it got serious
00:29:47.780
And, you know, people were like abandoning their vehicles.
00:29:50.960
Uh, you know, it's like women running with babies and this was it within like an hour
00:29:56.680
And so I was taking care of my grandma at the time because my grandpa had just passed
00:30:01.720
So I was in the process moving her out with me.
00:30:04.180
And so, you know, I'm, she's got some meds and she's slow moving.
00:30:07.020
So I was like, Hey grandma, you know, maybe, uh, no, no rush, but you know, let's start
00:30:12.440
And, uh, yeah, I mean, we grabbed, grabbed a couple of t-shirts, I grabbed like two
00:30:19.840
We thought we'd be in a hotel for like, you know, a couple, couple nights.
00:30:23.760
And, um, but no, I remember at one point my brother-in-law calling my wife and he's
00:30:29.220
like, uh, you know, make sure miles grabs that, you know, Kobe Jersey or that Eagles
00:30:33.520
And I was like, well, I couldn't come to terms with, I just couldn't face the
00:30:39.700
Hey, I did not think our neighbor was going to burn down.
00:30:42.700
It would have to jump six lanes, which it didn't.
00:30:44.740
But I just remember thinking like, where do you, you know, it's like, where do you
00:30:50.400
You know, if I take this off the wall, then there's just too much.
00:30:54.760
Uh, I think it's kind of, I think it was kind of overwhelming, but we, it's funny
00:30:59.300
because I always told Kelly, like if a natural disaster happens, something like
00:31:01.880
that, you're going to drive, um, the truckload, everything in the back.
00:31:06.840
Um, but when stuff, when it's actually happening, you're like, no, obviously, um, I
00:31:11.820
have, you know, make sure my wife and, you know, my grandma and, you know, and our,
00:31:16.460
So no, we really didn't, we really didn't grab, I'm saying even little shit.
00:31:20.540
Like when you're at home, I imagine you have like a favorite coffee mug.
00:31:23.900
If you drink coffee or just something that you have, has some history to it.
00:31:30.020
It's like everything I've acquired in life, um, gone.
00:31:38.480
Like, cause that's like, I mean, that's such a, you know, it's traumatic.
00:31:47.200
And I don't mean this, is there anything cathartic in some weird way about it?
00:31:56.360
No, because there's some people that have lost.
00:31:58.260
I don't know if it was their, their, you know, main home.
00:32:02.180
There are certainly people that have talked about that kind of baptism of it.
00:32:06.220
But I told, I told Kelly, this was like a couple of days after I said, look, I know at
00:32:11.080
some point, you know, especially when we have kids, if we're fortunate to have kids and we're
00:32:16.900
giving them life lessons, that's what it's all about.
00:32:19.820
Parent, you've been through the thing they're going through more or less.
00:32:23.420
And I said, you know, the fact that we'll be able to sit down with our kids and say,
00:32:26.980
you know, when your mother and I were, you know, your age or this age, we lost everything.
00:32:33.180
And I know that as a couple, that really is going to just make us stronger.
00:32:38.720
We didn't have any cracks before, but certainly like when you go through something like this,
00:32:43.640
you know, it bonds you in such a, in such a way.
00:32:51.640
She goes, it's this term I'm learning on Instagram.
00:32:55.380
She's like, bright siding is when you're telling somebody this thing, no matter what it is,
00:33:00.520
And they're like, well, look on the bright side, you know, you have your health.
00:33:03.000
And it's like, it kind of invalidates the thing they're, they're going through.
00:33:08.340
I know for me, I guess I feel that more like when I move, if I ever move and you go through
00:33:13.220
everything you own, you're like, oh my God, that's what I don't care about half this
00:33:23.740
I had a, I had a, uh, this director, I worked with his house burned down and he, he felt
00:33:30.940
You shouldn't have attachment to things, right.
00:33:32.660
That doesn't really, really fill you up as much as relationships do and this and that.
00:33:38.280
But, um, the things I'm talking about, they weren't, even though they're considered material,
00:33:44.860
And that's the other field of just like not having a, whatever home means to you, like
00:33:51.520
Like they tell you, we have it for three months.
00:33:59.500
Well, thanks for entertaining some of those questions.
00:34:00.880
I didn't, and maybe you've talked about that ad nauseum, man.
00:34:04.000
And I'm sorry if you have, I just didn't, uh, I didn't really think about that.
00:34:15.300
I thought it was one of the things you talked about a few minutes ago made me kind of even
00:34:19.300
It was like, um, when you look around your, your rental place that you're at now, that
00:34:24.580
there's not even things that are your, like, there's not pieces of you that are spaces
00:34:29.140
or memories, or you can walk past something and think like, oh, Kelly and I were there.
00:34:33.580
That's, you know, one of our first vacations, or that's where we got a dog or different
00:34:39.260
Um, and it kind of reminded me of just some of the, uh, like the archives that, um, cause
00:34:46.040
the movie's called eternity and it's basically, can you just give me a brief summation of
00:34:51.940
So when you die, uh, they, you get put with somebody and, and then you, you know, you
00:34:57.160
take a train and then you get kind of deposited deposited in this like grand central station
00:35:03.660
You get an afterlife coordinator and then they, the rules are you, you know, you get to live
00:35:09.580
You pick an eternity, but once you pick, you're in that for, you know, forever.
00:35:15.420
There's like capitalism world or like a smoking world.
00:35:26.620
Somebody was like, I want to eternally where it's like, uh, Miami beach, spaghetti and cocaine.
00:35:32.960
That's like, I think you just, you can actually go there now.
00:35:47.000
I just thought it was really, just a really original script.
00:35:52.480
Um, and it makes you think about like, you know, if I do pass away, it gives me, it gave
00:36:00.240
You know, I'm just thinking, well, I don't know.
00:36:10.000
But it was great because your, uh, your character's wife, um, all Elizabeth Olsen, Elizabeth Olsen,
00:36:17.840
She, uh, passes away and then she has to choose between her first love.
00:36:23.040
This dude who's been waiting, he, he passed away in the Korean war.
00:36:25.480
He's been waiting like 60 something years for her.
00:36:28.300
And you who are at the track, kind of like at the grand central station now, you guys
00:36:33.980
Well, I didn't know he was, I didn't know he was still waiting for her.
00:36:38.960
No, that's, that's in, I think that's like in the trailer.
00:36:44.360
Um, but it's kind of fascinating cause then she shows up and now you two are kind of vying
00:36:51.320
Does she stay with this first love that she lost and didn't get to have a life with?
00:36:55.020
Or does she stay with this love that she already got to have a life with?
00:36:58.860
And it's just, uh, and there are, there was like, I was, some people were telling me, um,
00:37:04.740
you know, it's like, oh man, that's, that's my, my nightmare.
00:37:07.920
You know, people that have been, you know, had, you know, been widowed and moved on this
00:37:11.800
and that, but, but look, I think it, but it does, it really makes you think about, um,
00:37:18.020
yeah, your own life and what's beyond and, you know, family and, I don't know.
00:37:27.380
Like, I remember when I've done, and this is a little bit of a weird, uh, sidebar, but
00:37:32.020
like when I've done like, uh, DMT, it's like the only feeling that you're left with is that
00:37:38.640
the only important feeling as it feels like you're leaving the existence is that love was
00:37:44.280
the most important thing and that everything else was just a complete fool's errand.
00:37:48.100
Um, and also that, um, well, cause what you're talking about, but you get this feeling that
00:37:57.400
your, your consciousness, which is who we are is really, you know, this really is just
00:38:04.060
kind of this, um, vessel, this physical form, but it is, but who you are exists when you ever,
00:38:11.460
you've been in a situation where you feel like you've left, uh, your body, um, but you
00:38:17.260
still, you know, think like yourself, you still feel like yourself and that, that kind
00:38:23.920
Um, yeah, that's a good, and we're not saying that, you know, what I'm talking about, but
00:38:28.120
we're just saying that, that yes, the consciousness of who we are still exists outside of our vessels.
00:38:35.780
That's what certain experiences have made me feel like, and that, that consciousness is
00:38:40.060
still able to, to evaluate that love is so important.
00:38:47.620
I'm like, I think the most important thing in life for me really is, you know, it's like
00:38:53.740
relationships, you know, to me, that's the thing when I'm, I imagine when I'm sitting
00:39:03.520
If, if I die, um, to, cause we have a new package for you.
00:39:09.100
Um, give me that longevity, you know, whatever it is.
00:39:15.620
Um, you know, Kelly will show me like one thing, somebody talking about some product.
00:39:22.240
Like, yeah, I can put it in a smoothie, baby, but no, but it's, it's like relationships.
00:39:26.520
Like to me, that's, that's what I'm going to be thinking.
00:39:27.880
I'm not going to be thinking about how this, you know, that, that Bronco or that movie
00:39:31.200
or that I'm going to be like, man, I'm going to be thinking about, you
00:39:33.060
know, my wife, my, you know, my buddies, my, you know, my family, my, um, my relationship
00:39:40.780
And I, I think that's kind of the, and that's what I get the most, um, like the return from,
00:39:47.960
That's what, that's what you're going to get back.
00:39:49.580
I just think that's, that's always kind of led me on a good path in life.
00:39:54.880
It's like, I know sometimes I feel like I've almost spent too much time working.
00:39:59.040
One of the nice things, like I recently kind of have gotten to take a break from touring
00:40:02.580
cause I'd been kind of touring pretty heavily for like four or five years and maybe really
00:40:09.200
And, uh, and so like, I've been able to like go to football games and like maybe try to
00:40:15.520
plan a date and go on a date, you know, not be like, try to pick up the pieces all the
00:40:20.920
And like, yeah, just things like that to be able to see a friend like a couple of weeks
00:40:25.280
in a row or know that you're going to be able to keep the relationship going.
00:40:29.800
And when it's not just sandwiched in between, it's like, okay, I have one and a half days,
00:40:34.640
you know, I have this thing on Friday, you know, this thing on Monday, whatever.
00:40:43.260
And I've like, even with filming, man, I've, I've kind of always been pretty good.
00:40:47.040
Obviously if it's, I have no problem going like back to back to back if it's the right
00:40:51.360
But other than that, uh, it's, for me, it's gotta be really special because you just, you
00:40:57.880
I enjoy my life with my friends and my family and, you know, Kelly and this and that.
00:41:02.160
So, uh, to have the time to, like you said, kind of nourish those relationships is so important.
00:41:09.280
You know, and just figure out who like, I don't know, get back to what you like.
00:41:14.320
Um, yeah, I, I thought it was interesting how in the movie, uh, Oh, who is the, um,
00:41:19.880
so you get to like the grand central station, right?
00:41:22.240
Like the sort of this purgatory type of place and they connect you with an afterlife coordinator.
00:41:28.000
And then the funny thing is, yeah, there's like, it's almost like this mall of like afterlifes
00:41:43.840
And it's like all the, it's like, uh, uh, you know, um, Willie Nelson world.
00:41:49.440
And it's just like, everybody there looks like Willie Nelson and that's all they do.
00:41:53.420
People that love, you know, you guys love the same shit.
00:41:57.740
And you get to go there and you're going to meet other people that love Willie Nelson
00:42:03.260
Um, but they give you like this afterlife coordinator, like you said, uh, and those
00:42:10.120
Divine Joy Randolph, who won the sporting actress Oscar for the holdovers.
00:42:15.480
Um, and then John early, who is a, I'm sure some people watching this like know who John
00:42:21.040
He's, he's got some really incredible standup specials.
00:42:24.440
I wasn't, I don't know if I was familiar with him or a couple of shows to John's he's
00:42:47.260
And then how, uh, yeah, it was just like, man, she'd had this love that had died in the
00:42:54.040
And it was like, oh, and she'd waited and then she'd met you.
00:42:59.380
And yeah, it was just like, and then like, there was this moment where you realized that
00:43:04.200
yeah, I don't want to give any, I don't want to give any more away.
00:43:07.680
Um, but it was also harrowing to think of like how many, how many widows were, how many
00:43:16.880
Can you see how many, um, women were widowed by?
00:43:22.420
The average lifespan was for Norm when they stormed Normandy, but it was, uh, they're getting
00:43:29.940
It says for world, world war one alone, approximately three to 4 million women were widowed due to
00:43:41.340
Cause also women were married, uh, pretty young.
00:43:50.380
You almost get addicted to it though, in some ways, because it's, it's a great time.
00:43:56.300
People, you want to go see people that want to pay attention, you know?
00:44:00.100
And I liked, I would start going to smaller markets.
00:44:01.980
Like we did like 250 something markets over the past four years with this tour.
00:44:12.300
But then you start, it does like, it starts to become a lot.
00:44:15.860
It like, it's just, it just, it just, it just was a lot.
00:44:19.460
I imagine you're like, um, yeah, of course you want to, you know, that's.
00:44:25.040
You want to see everybody, you want to make everybody happy.
00:44:26.900
And that's like, it's like whenever I go somewhere and, uh, you know, if there's some
00:44:30.280
event, you know, an event and you can tell, okay, these are actually fans.
00:44:33.660
These aren't just, you know, scalpers or dudes trying to sell your autograph.
00:44:36.520
It's like, yeah, of course I make movies for people to, to like, to see them.
00:44:41.780
It's like, yeah, I love, I love doing that stuff.
00:44:44.700
You just feel like, yeah, of course we're in the entertainment industry.
00:44:49.320
Like you want to bring a smile to somebody's face, especially those smaller markets that
00:44:52.740
don't get the kind of the acts that, you know, the other spots do.
00:44:57.460
I mean, from places like Casper, Wyoming to Beaumont to Toledo, I mean, we've done like
00:45:01.540
so many markets and then we're like, oh, well these other places that we can go to.
00:45:04.300
And then we'll do like a lot of just meeting groups after the show.
00:45:08.200
So, you know, you'll be sitting out there just hugging people and like checking in on folks
00:45:12.460
and like getting a temperature of humanity and stuff like that.
00:45:15.960
It almost feels in a little way, like you live everywhere kind of in some ways.
00:45:19.320
Cause you realize that there's just so many great people, you know, who are like a lot
00:45:23.100
of like, are all kind of searching for some of the same things, you know?
00:45:27.220
I think with our, with this podcast, it's sometimes it's a bit more than just kind of like jokes
00:45:32.840
Sometimes it's like, just like kind of creating a connection, you know?
00:45:41.380
The civil war had 620,000 to 750,000 military deaths, high widowhood.
00:45:53.120
World War II around 405,000 widows, Korean war.
00:45:57.380
And that was the war that your co-actor died in, in this movie.
00:46:05.300
But yeah, I mean, you just think of all those women.
00:46:07.360
And there was a moment where she said she went and sat at the boat docks and was waiting
00:46:13.620
Oh, so I think that was one thing that was neat about Eternity to me was like, there's
00:46:20.280
this fun like thing going on where you guys are like, you know, figuring out these different
00:46:23.820
worlds, like the afterlife and it's super entertaining.
00:46:26.580
But then there's also like, there was this sort of like emotion, like kind of pretty emo, emotional
00:46:31.400
stuff going on with like, yeah, how do we look at love?
00:46:34.340
And like, if you've already gotten to live one love, if you got to go back, would you choose
00:46:37.740
a different one in, uh, yeah, it was just, yeah, it's certainly, I mean, what I enjoyed
00:46:42.000
about reading the script and kind of when we performed it was that it does, it never
00:46:48.360
loses its kind of grounding and, and the stakes and the sincerity of it.
00:46:53.740
There's some really funny moments and there's some kind of, um, you know, but nothing ever
00:47:00.920
It's not, it's not a movie where we're just trying to get in as many one liners as we
00:47:04.860
can, I think it's, it always kind of, um, it's just a delicate balance between having
00:47:12.080
And also I think, I do think it's really funny.
00:47:15.240
I think it's like, it's just, and we had, after the, we did the premiere in Toronto,
00:47:18.940
man, we just had like at the after party, you could just tell people were kind of coupling
00:47:28.920
Um, one of my favorite parts too, just right in the beginning when they're driving in that
00:47:32.620
car together, dude, I could have watched those two people in that car.
00:47:37.760
But also it's just couples that have been around for that long.
00:47:39.880
Just this natural, just kind of, you're not going to offend me and just bullshit, banter,
00:47:46.320
And they're both, neither one of them is saying everything they're doing is just kind of like
00:47:50.700
making the other one, like whatever they're saying a problem.
00:47:54.680
Oh, I think my wife and I secretly enjoy to like kind of fucking annoy each other.
00:48:04.800
Like a little bit of annoyance, a little bickering.
00:48:06.940
Um, I didn't realize that the, um, uh, uh, Elizabeth Olsen.
00:48:12.180
I didn't realize that she was related to Mary Kate and Ashley Olsen.
00:48:24.320
It's so crazy because they had a childhood stardom.
00:48:28.920
I know it tends to, I mean, and they've become very successful, you know, in the design side
00:48:43.180
Did you feel like you started to become popular at a pretty young age?
00:48:46.660
Do you feel like you were kind of baked into you already?
00:48:49.700
Or do you feel like if it had been earlier, like, do you have any thoughts about that?
00:48:53.060
Like, I think, I think for me, things happened, uh, kind of at the pace that, that lined up
00:48:59.900
with my own kind of maturity or life experiences.
00:49:04.680
Cause you know, it's like, I went to, went to college for four years and, and trained there.
00:49:09.200
And so, yeah, I was like 22 when I did my first movie, maybe like 20, maybe I was like
00:49:17.800
24, 25, when Footloose came out and then Project X and that kind of thing.
00:49:22.680
And I was doing some college comedy type stuff.
00:49:25.920
I think had I gotten, you know, really famous when I was like 17, um, I mean, I was raised
00:49:32.840
I, you know, I never had to worry about my parents or somebody taking money from me,
00:49:39.820
Um, that's, that's really a shame to lose trust, um, that young from loved ones.
00:49:46.900
I think that's going to fuck you up for the rest of your life.
00:49:50.920
But yeah, for me, it was pretty, it was like honestly pretty, pretty organic.
00:49:56.500
And also I moved, when I moved out to LA, a bunch of my boys, uh, from high school all
00:50:01.420
So I didn't, I didn't like need anything from LA.
00:50:04.420
I was, I didn't come to LA to like find myself.
00:50:08.000
And me, you know, me and my buddies get a house or whatever.
00:50:09.820
And the Valley and, um, yeah, I always had like familiar faces around me.
00:50:15.240
Um, even my agent, I met her on my first movie.
00:50:23.480
Um, you know, I think I was lucky in that sense that a bunch of my boys were like, yeah, we'll
00:50:33.140
Uh, the one, the one moved out, we played a band together in high school.
00:50:37.260
I think he was trying to do something maybe music wise.
00:50:39.160
Uh, but no, yeah, it's a tough, getting LA is hectic.
00:50:46.900
Uh, we were, we were the mutes because we played the, we all started, we played like the homecoming
00:50:52.540
parade and then the electric, the power went out for our generator.
00:50:58.060
Um, so that's enough of a reason to, you know, that's a band name right there.
00:51:03.920
I think we actually were playing for SWAT, like on the SWAT float, which was, uh, really
00:51:18.420
No, dude, we had, bro, we had a DARE officer named Mr. Bob and RIP, he passed away.
00:51:24.580
Everybody knew who he was, but he would like pull up and he was, he was a humongous man.
00:51:30.800
And this is back when, if a man was very big, what does DARE stand for again?
00:51:37.080
Cause I can only just, I instantly just think of whatever the, the ones that people would
00:51:47.500
I don't, I don't even know if I know any of them.
00:51:48.860
No, I just remember in high school, people would say like drugs are really expensive.
00:51:55.340
Well, especially in Florida, if you got some good drugs, but dude, SWAT.
00:52:19.640
See, inventors, laboratory, big tobacco, like big tobacco is going down.
00:52:37.480
But our float probably looks, you just needed some, some dude with a flatbed and then you
00:52:52.880
So what did this, what did officer Bob, what was his, what was his big moment?
00:52:57.340
See, drugs are really, drugs are really exciting.
00:53:10.680
But it was a lot of, it was like people screaming, I won't do drugs or whatever.
00:53:17.000
And one year he pulled up and he could not get it.
00:53:21.060
So we had to do the talk from a megaphone from his vehicle and people were like, what?
00:53:28.160
And like, um, and then they would hide a sack of weed in some kid's bag or whatever in the
00:53:33.460
audience and a dog would just go like a real bag of weed.
00:53:41.780
Cause it was like, yeah, we put weed on one of the kids and all the kids would be like,
00:53:46.240
you know, and then they just sick of fucking German shepherd on the kid.
00:53:52.280
We, um, dude, there was some weird, there was some weird stuff in my high school.
00:53:58.160
Florida and every teacher's coach, every, every teacher in our high school was coach.
00:54:03.700
Cause they used to coach a basketball team where they could, I remember one dude, he
00:54:06.760
coached the, it was like the debate team or something.
00:54:12.580
They would just pick like what, whoever the lesbian teacher was at our school was also
00:54:19.820
Our softball coach, lesbian ended up a couple of years after I graduated.
00:54:25.120
Um, she was having a relationship with like a sophomore.
00:54:52.000
Some of the best, I think best live music in countries like they're Austin, obviously
00:54:57.700
Um, but yeah, Austin or Key West, man, just killer music.
00:55:02.540
You just either you're walking around the whole time or, you know, if we go to big group,
00:55:09.360
Every bar looks like it just went through a hurricane.
00:55:15.000
I always hear Nick Swartzen loves it down there.
00:55:17.420
No, yeah, he, he, he lived down there for, he was just supposed to go for like a couple
00:55:22.180
of weeks or something, stayed at this hotel for something for like months.
00:55:27.140
I think like almost just under a million bucks.
00:55:30.440
Because you will get the moisture still for like a quarter during happy hour.
00:55:35.460
I don't know how you fucking spend a million bucks actually.
00:55:40.460
Yeah, how to spend a million bucks in Key West.
00:55:58.900
I feel like somebody's been blowing weed smoking here right now.
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No, you, this was a, uh, this was an experimental program down there in the fucking south.
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There's 4,300 active youth, though, in the SWAT, uh, SWAT youth in the state of Florida.
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And my buddy, Patrick, we had to make like this tree.
00:57:07.820
Ours was like the tree of life or something or whatever, or keep growing or something
00:57:13.560
And my buddy, Patrick, he was gonna, um, we're like, dude, Patrick, you stay in the
00:57:19.520
tree, stay in the middle, light up a blunt in there and just blow smoke out of the, like,
00:57:25.420
if you blow enough smoke, some of it will just, we'll just keep a hole in the top of
00:57:29.260
So we're pushing this down the street and everybody will, uh, well, and nobody will know,
00:57:34.120
but there'll be just, you'll be in there to super high and it's all like, you know.
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So I was thinking like you cut a hole out of the trunk.
00:57:42.300
So it's like his face and just like roasting blunts or something, but you're saying just
00:57:47.180
a little hole just so he could breathe, but he was hot box in this tree.
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We just thought, put him in the tree, like in the trunk of the tree.
00:57:56.920
It's like this whole paper mache and wire setup.
00:58:00.120
And then there's this big kind of bulb on top of him, almost like a very small, um, water
00:58:07.380
And that is all adorned with green paper mache and everything.
00:58:12.300
So Patrick, you just stand in there and keep smoking blunts and some of the smoke will
00:58:24.580
It's like a two hour parade and you couldn't see any of the smoke coming out.
00:58:28.400
It was just him like smoking countless black and mild blunts in this tree.
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Oh, he didn't, he couldn't go to school for one whole week.
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He couldn't go to school for one whole week, dude.
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He was, it was the most high person that we'd ever seen in our area.
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What was something like, how long did you guys, how long did you guys.
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He's going to sit there, he can smoke as much as he wants, you know.
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And sometimes you get, for the first like two blocks, you can hear him yell, can y'all
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01:01:53.060
When you're shooting a movie like that, like at this point when you go into a film, like
01:02:02.380
are there things you want to have on set that make your day easier?
01:02:05.560
And then what's that shoot schedule like, like on a day-to-day basis for somebody kind
01:02:11.000
Like, do you still have to shoot every single scene?
01:02:15.020
Yeah, I mean, I think I've been fortunate enough to work on some, you know, some great
01:02:24.480
For the most part, some really incredible directors that wanted to be the first one there, last
01:02:30.680
I just think it's important that, you know, kind of right off the bat, people understand
01:02:37.840
Because a lot of the time, you know, if you got to, maybe for the shot or whatever, the
01:02:42.200
the eye line's tight, they want you to work with just like a, you know, an X on the thing.
01:02:45.720
And some people are really good working that way.
01:02:47.840
For me, I have to feel the connection with, you know, whoever I'm working with.
01:02:53.160
And so for a bigger budget movie, sure, there's certain things that you can kind of build into
01:02:58.720
your contract to make you as comfortable as possible.
01:03:01.100
But at the end of the day, I don't really, I don't really give a shit, man.
01:03:04.880
It's just like whatever, whatever we need to do to make the best movie possible, you know,
01:03:10.740
I'm in, I'm fully in, anything you need from me, I'm here.
01:03:15.100
And also, I think I approach film, or just acting in general, like, I mean, I grew up
01:03:21.280
loving, you know, I played sports, and every sport, you know, it was like team sports always,
01:03:25.640
and playing music, and that kind of, just being a link in the chain, like, to me, that's,
01:03:34.380
So I enjoy, I enjoy that camaraderie, I enjoy that teamwork.
01:03:37.200
As I've moved up in my career, it's, I take it upon myself to really, like, lead from
01:03:42.120
You know, if I'm number one on the call sheet, like, it's a, it's, and if I'm producing the
01:03:46.440
thing, like, it's important to me to know everybody's name, and, you know, just to feel
01:03:52.760
like we're all, we're all kind of in this thing together.
01:03:54.720
I think when you're making a movie, and you're just kind of, you come out for your stuff,
01:03:58.480
go back to your trailer, it's fine, and everybody works differently.
01:04:03.520
But just for me, I need to really feel that kind of camaraderie.
01:04:10.600
Yeah, it is so much fun, like, even, like, being on a, being, because the fact that something
01:04:18.140
Like, there's, words get created and put onto a page, and then you want to make sure there's
01:04:23.140
I think writing is probably the hardest out of all of the disciplines.
01:04:26.580
I can't imagine just staring at a blank page, you know, page one, scene one.
01:04:31.040
You don't start thinking about, you don't do that stuff?
01:04:34.780
No, I think I'm better at when, you know, if writers already have an idea, or I can make,
01:04:46.620
I feel like I'm good at kind of collaborating within the scene work and framework of the
01:04:51.740
script, and I'll certainly kind of help shape things, 100%.
01:04:56.940
And I think most actors, through improvisation or through, you know, talking with the writer,
01:05:01.620
absolutely inform, you know, the material to a good amount.
01:05:03.760
Some scripts you don't really need to touch at all.
01:05:08.480
I don't have the first idea, but I'm good at, okay, that's great, and now this.
01:05:13.480
But also, I truly believe in, like, best idea wins.
01:05:16.220
And so when you work with a director who's really collaborative and whose ego isn't so
01:05:22.460
precious to where they can take, you know, inspiration from, you know, the people around
01:05:34.300
I think the only time I get upset when I'm filming is when I feel like I'm working with,
01:05:37.760
like, a dictator, and that I don't feel comfortable to kind of speak up about stuff.
01:05:47.320
Closed-minded people, to me, that's when I, I guess, I don't like, I really don't like
01:05:52.680
And I thought getting into arts, like, that's kind of the, that's a great path for me, because
01:05:56.640
we're all, you know, it's a collaborative medium in nature.
01:05:59.380
But yeah, I just, I don't like when people lead with an iron fist too much.
01:06:10.700
Oh, one part of the movie that was interesting to me was, there was a moment where they were
01:06:14.400
kind of, where she had chosen an eternity, so she chooses one of the men.
01:06:18.240
But then you can go look at archives, you can kind of go back into a museum of your life.
01:06:25.480
Yeah, it was just neat to see, like, how that, it's just nice to see.
01:06:29.380
To see that if, if that happened, like, if we pass away, which you are a believer of,
01:06:34.260
that, that we get to go through almost like this zoo, where there's different exhibits
01:06:44.660
You know, I think people, I think that term, like core memories now is something that's
01:06:52.960
But that was one thing that I thought was pretty dope about it.
01:07:02.120
I mean, that's the, I mean, that wasn't a movie.
01:07:18.320
At 9.30 on Sunday, four individuals arrived on scooters and a truck that had a mechanical
01:07:26.380
Two of them ascended to the balcony and used power tools to carve into the outside window.
01:07:33.940
I mean, I have alarms on my windows if something opens.
01:07:36.600
Versed inside the Apollo gallery that houses all of the Louvre's special royal jewels and
01:07:44.960
used their saws to break into two of those cases.
01:07:49.900
In the meantime, we've been told that the security guards really quickly brought people
01:07:56.320
This very wing of the Louvre also contains the Mona Lisa, so it's the most sort of precious
01:08:03.040
things in France are there, but only 75% of the rooms have security cameras in them.
01:08:09.380
Four minutes later, they emerge with eight precious items, including a tiara, necklaces,
01:08:22.040
They escaped out the window and they took off on scooters that they had planted.
01:08:35.180
Two guys would decide like, hey, let's go get the Louvre.
01:08:44.260
And then you're like, all right, well, let me see how I can figure it out.
01:08:48.560
No, but also it's like, so what, then they sell this, like, do they take it apart and
01:08:56.820
Do they just need to hold onto it until, you know, like after generation, generation, and
01:09:06.860
Oh, it's almost pretty magical that they were able to do it.
01:09:10.080
But they, I mean, no, I think it's, yeah, I mean, it certainly gives, you know, truth
01:09:18.540
It's like, well, you know, yeah, you can do it with just a little saw.
01:09:23.980
You don't even need, like, switching identities and shit.
01:09:26.020
It's like, no, but that's what I was wondering.
01:09:27.800
When the dude's in there, like, banging his, like, just, like, carving through this glass,
01:09:32.720
nobody's like, because obviously it was full of people.
01:09:46.700
And the Mona Lisa, dude, Mona Lisa, that looks more like a dude, I think.
01:09:55.120
Not in this, but I think back in the, it's like the 70s or something, Mona Lisa was stolen.
01:10:00.640
I wonder if it was really stolen or somebody faked having, see, this is what I think happens
01:10:04.920
These museums fake having stuff stolen to get people to come to the museum or to add,
01:10:27.520
Dude, it's a fucking halfway house for art, dude.
01:10:37.760
He disguised himself as a museum employee, hid overnight inside the museum.
01:10:42.560
And took the painting the next morning by removing it from its frame and concealing it under his
01:10:48.620
The theft was not discovered until the following day.
01:10:51.080
And the painting was hidden in Perugia's apartment in Paris during that time.
01:11:04.600
I have no, I really don't know how you move this stuff.
01:11:11.220
That's how, I mean, that's kind of usually how they end up catching, you know, criminals
01:11:16.800
Like, they slip up, they tell somebody something.
01:11:44.920
What, uh, you've had so many interesting experiences.
01:11:49.780
Did you get to meet him before you got to work with him?
01:11:51.600
And sorry if some of this seems like a little bit petty, but I don't know anybody that ever
01:11:58.700
I flew, it was this, I had worked with that director before.
01:12:02.460
I had done two movies with him, I think, at that point.
01:12:06.380
No, I had done one movie with him at that point.
01:12:09.020
But yeah, I mean, I flew, I had to audition for it.
01:12:12.560
I think there was, they were down to like a couple guys.
01:12:15.060
Flew and, you know, did a, yeah, audition with Tom.
01:12:20.980
I mean, I, but for some reason, I, I didn't feel like I was going to be nervous around
01:12:25.860
I have like, obviously an immense amount of respect for the guy, but he's, he's such
01:12:30.600
And he is, he's one of our great, great actors.
01:12:33.740
Um, and his filmography, I think if you attach commercial and critical, I think this run that
01:12:40.380
he's, you know, has went on multiple times for his career is going to be very hard to touch.
01:12:44.140
Um, but yeah, he's, he really cares about the work and he labors over, he labors over
01:12:51.720
I mean, we would go, we would meet, we would have a meeting or we're filming.
01:12:56.540
He's like, all right, we're going to meet, we're going to talk about, you know, this scene
01:12:58.820
that exists on page like 50 or something, but you always start page one, scene one, and
01:13:04.500
And then three hours later, when we've had all these side conversations about just different
01:13:08.420
parts of the script, by the time you get to the scene you met, we're there to meet
01:13:21.480
Um, but that, that movie, I mean, that movie, yeah, that movie took a, a long time, uh, to
01:13:28.760
And also like, you have to work in part and parcel and in concert with the Navy, you know,
01:13:35.980
So if we're filming on a carrier, we're filming it, you know, in Top Gun or we're filming all
01:13:40.400
these plays, these guys are actively, you know, training, um, nonstop.
01:13:49.740
So you're having to like work at like in between certain days while they're doing stuff or at
01:13:54.320
Like I remember when we were on the carrier, we could, maybe we had like, you know, uh,
01:13:58.480
two hour window for something to be up on, on the top deck.
01:14:02.760
Um, but yeah, that was, yeah, we're on the carrier for two weeks.
01:14:10.700
I was like one of my first few days being there.
01:14:12.600
And even though you're on this giant carrier, like you feel like you're on a submarine because
01:14:21.660
There's nothing extraneous like that is an active carrier.
01:14:31.280
Um, I mean, we're launching, you know, aircraft from it.
01:14:34.020
Um, and so, but when you're walking around, I mean, all of the hallway, everything is so
01:14:41.740
And I walked by this one sailor and I was like, Hey, I was like living the dream, huh?
01:14:45.960
And he just turns to me and he goes, nightmares are also dreams.
01:14:51.160
I was like, that is, we're on the Theodore Roosevelt.
01:14:57.500
I have so much, um, nightmares are also dreams.
01:15:02.000
Because I mean, that's a good, depending on what your job is on that carrier.
01:15:07.120
I mean, your job placement, you might be seven or eight, you know, decks below and, you know,
01:15:14.620
just the nature of, uh, operations sometimes like you're kind of, that's kind of your,
01:15:27.040
When you think of the terrorist best, what people go through, we're trying to maybe have
01:15:31.820
I know he's, he is, there's nobody that's done more.
01:15:35.060
That guy is, it's truly been his like life's mission.
01:15:41.660
Cause it's not like the VA, like the, cause I did this movie about guys coming home from
01:15:57.160
Um, and so, you know, and for guys to kind of unpack and our writer director was telling
01:16:03.880
me, he's like, you know, miles, we've known how to send guys to war, men and women to war
01:16:08.720
Since the beginning of time, we've known how to create a soldier, but we still don't really
01:16:13.620
Um, and it is, it's really, it's really complicated.
01:16:16.260
And those programs that are, you know, working for, you know, nonprofit, they can only take
01:16:28.340
No, I was just saying it's, it's really, it's really tough.
01:16:32.000
And also just with mental health in general, um, the amount of training that it takes for
01:16:39.200
somebody to be able to, um, appropriately deal with someone with, you know, if it's
01:16:46.180
PTSD, if it's bipolar, if it's schizophrenia, whatever it is, it takes a really, uh, takes
01:16:51.260
a long time to train somebody, um, and to be able to get them to sit with the person
01:16:56.060
and be able to potentially, you know, change their men's a little bit, somebody that they
01:17:00.400
trust, somebody who has those skills, um, to deal with it.
01:17:05.540
Um, and yeah, that's actually something I'm, uh, yeah, I have a lot of advocacy for.
01:17:13.220
I think, and also when you talk to people, I think most, I think a lot of people have
01:17:18.860
somebody, you know, in their family or with friends that are, you know, dealt with that.
01:17:23.520
And it's, it's, it's just, yeah, it's really tough.
01:17:27.480
Um, I think I have, yeah, just immense amount of empathy and that stuff's always, you know,
01:17:31.780
it's more or less, it always kind of some traumatic event happened at some age and that
01:17:36.520
leads to, um, you know, these, these mental health issues.
01:17:42.460
We don't know how to bring these people home and then how much value, like, you know,
01:17:45.740
even at a governmental level, how much value, you know, should there be just as much of
01:17:50.360
a training and untraining program, you know, as much as you're training people for military
01:17:54.960
and for combat, should there be just as much of an untraining?
01:17:58.100
And also these guys, you know, they, the guys that they go to war with, those are the
01:18:01.020
guys that understand more than anybody what they went through.
01:18:03.480
But then, you know, they go from being in, you know, battalion and, you know, being those
01:18:07.040
guys and then they come home and everybody kind of disperses and, you know, it's, uh, yeah,
01:18:14.040
Well, it's like you were saying earlier, just like being able to be part of a group and have
01:18:16.860
that, you know, and then suddenly it's different or suddenly even if you're
01:18:20.660
You're put on leave or something because you're a mental condition, then that's got
01:18:23.480
to be even scarier because now are you maybe struggling, but also you're away from your
01:18:29.980
And also each, like each, um, you know, depending on what job you're going for in the military,
01:18:36.220
you know, infantry, different, uh, branches, um, you know, you need, it's a numbers game.
01:18:44.100
And so some of these, you know, some of the boot camps are, you know, X amount of weeks
01:18:49.660
And, um, when you get more kind of, I guess, uh, tier one, um, yeah.
01:18:57.380
Well, I'm just saying like our special forces guys, I mean, those, those guys have been
01:19:00.900
through, you know, uh, a lot of training and they're, they're, you're usually not in those
01:19:06.260
groups until you're, you know, you're certainly not 18, um, as a Navy SEAL, it takes, you know,
01:19:13.000
It's been, um, it was, I was at, I went to this, to this football game last year, going
01:19:16.900
to the Vanderbilt football game and there were two.
01:19:20.740
I didn't, but they just happened to be in Nashville and I became buddies with, uh, um,
01:19:34.680
Um, I've been out of the mix for a little bit just cause we're the house stuff, but seven months
01:19:46.100
Well, dude, you know, at the end of the day, they're going to fight.
01:19:48.760
And there's just, and the time in between is great.
01:19:50.900
You know, it's hang for a little chat and then it's just when that music comes on forever
01:19:56.440
I think Madison Square Garden, especially, or it was good, you know, or I imagine you were
01:20:01.700
at some of those Connor fights during his heyday.
01:20:03.580
I got to go to one with him and, uh, Dustin, that was it, but when he came out, it was
01:20:11.940
It's a shame when that kind of generation you're on out to the next group of fighters,
01:20:18.540
They have so many great guys, but also being at those events is so much fun.
01:20:21.880
And you also realize that you are nothing like, cause there's some bad asses coming
01:20:27.200
I think it's like, no matter if you think you're cool or not, you were sitting there looking
01:20:30.780
in all at some warriors, you know, that when it comes down to it, like they're the
01:20:40.000
And it's just like such a test of will and, and like, and man or woman.
01:20:44.760
And like, what do you, like, it makes you ask yourself a lot of things.
01:20:50.880
Like I even remember in high school, man, like, you know, I'd be, you know, I played baseball
01:20:57.460
No, I, I pitched up until, I guess it took me a minute to hit my growth spurt.
01:21:01.900
Um, but I was like, you know, stud, you know, kind of early years.
01:21:05.960
And then, um, but I was saying, you know, even with the football players, like the wrestlers,
01:21:10.200
when you looked at the wrestlers condition compared to the football players, like you
01:21:13.040
couldn't even compare, like a lot of my buddies are wrestlers.
01:21:18.880
Like to have that discipline at 15 to be like, now I'm skipping lunch.
01:21:28.280
I remember driving through my neighborhood and my buddy Paul would literally be running.
01:21:31.980
And this is when we didn't even know we had a wrestling team at our school, right?
01:21:34.440
I think it was like the first year they started.
01:21:36.320
He'd be running down the street in a bunch of trash bags and shit.
01:21:38.860
We're like, oh my God, like he did something bad at home or whatever.
01:21:50.240
Um, uh, do you start to think like, okay, so now you have like, kind of like a filmography
01:21:57.840
Um, do you start to think, okay, this is a genre I would like to do, or I love that
01:22:06.320
Like, is that something that an actor starts to think about?
01:22:09.740
Uh, how do you start to think about, do you start to think about a little bit of like
01:22:14.100
how many movies you want to do or like what kind of things come into your mind, like at
01:22:24.240
I think when I first started out and even, I guess when I was in college and be doing
01:22:29.080
different scenes and stuff in class, I always wanted to, like, I enjoyed, uh, drama as much
01:22:35.820
I actually kind of started out when I was in high school.
01:22:38.060
Um, you know, everybody kind of knew me as like the class clown and I would play like
01:22:45.040
And then I remember doing this very serious monologue and the whole class just started
01:22:52.620
And I remember that pissed me off because I was like, oh, I've lost my audience.
01:23:05.500
Now I need to kind of work on this other stuff.
01:23:07.800
Uh, I was like, cause like nobody didn't want to like not be taken, you know, seriously
01:23:13.040
Um, but so I knew starting out, like I always, I had an appetite.
01:23:24.040
I've, I haven't done a sports movie yet, but love sports, uh, military and my family,
01:23:30.300
So I've done like a good amount of like blue collar stuff.
01:23:35.100
But I think as far as the genre goes every once in a while, yeah, you'll watch a film or maybe
01:23:40.780
it's a certain director who works in a certain genre.
01:23:44.900
Um, but I think, yeah, it really just comes down to like taste and interest.
01:23:50.220
I think I have a pretty wide, um, range of, of interests and I don't really necessarily
01:23:55.960
care what the genre is as long as it just feels authentic to me.
01:24:01.000
Can you feel that you can make a bad version of any genre?
01:24:04.320
Um, yeah, and I guess you can just feel that when you read the script, you're like, I can
01:24:09.660
I think I've been fortunate enough to now in the beginning of, of most careers, right?
01:24:18.980
And it's not, it's like, yo, you thought I had like multiple options.
01:24:22.800
Like, no, dude, you're just trying to work professionally.
01:24:26.000
Like if you, if I, if you can pay your bills as an actor and it's tough, man, you know,
01:24:30.000
how many, like you're starting out, it kind of, I think like in your twenties, there's
01:24:34.660
a lot of actors kind of, we can all play teenagers, this, that, whatever.
01:24:38.760
And then when you get older, it's like, if your audience, you know, wants to grow with
01:24:43.900
You know, it's like, I imagine a lot of my fans now have like kids and stuff.
01:24:52.780
I think your best asset would be, I guess when you read a script, if, if I think it's
01:25:00.980
And I, for the most part, I've kind of just went with my instincts and gut, but for the
01:25:04.980
most part, a lot of my career has been, you know, a director has got to take a chance on
01:25:15.360
Cause Vinny's like Dana's favorite boxer all the time.
01:25:18.640
Cause that's how I got plugged in with UFC early on.
01:25:36.800
So he broke his, so he was, uh, he had won some titles early and then he was kind of,
01:25:42.080
the promoters kind of thought he was on the way out.
01:25:50.140
Now, meanwhile, if you, if you, you know, mess up more or less with that halo one, you're,
01:25:58.240
And there's video of him like, you know, doing some pretty sick rope work with that halo
01:26:04.120
Um, I don't want to give it away, but yeah, it's considered like, um, you know, just one
01:26:11.340
But yeah, the only movie I had come out, like right before that, I was like in fat
01:26:25.440
If you can't hold their attention with your acting, I mean, just all bullshit.
01:26:28.600
I was sick when I was 25, but I used to not like, I was like, I dude's ripped.
01:26:39.540
I can, it's so, it's just fascinating to watch somebody just be able to create, um, to be
01:26:45.560
And just be like an instrument just to be, uh, like a word on a page, you know?
01:26:50.700
Um, what's, you know, it's like, we're, we're shining a mirror up to, you know, society
01:26:56.460
really, you're just kind of the great actors, right?
01:26:59.020
You, you, you watch them and you obviously believe what they're doing, but then it makes
01:27:07.640
They just really understand kind of the human condition, human experience.
01:27:12.000
Um, I think cause a lot of young actors will ask her like, what do you think is like so
01:27:16.980
I, I, I go, I think, um, obviously start from the inside, work from the inside out.
01:27:24.080
And I think just two abilities or curiosities that will really age.
01:27:31.060
If you're somebody who just, you know, see somebody a different way of life and, um, you
01:27:36.800
can feel for somebody other than yourself and, and then your curiosity.
01:27:40.720
Um, I think that's what's lent me to a lot of, um, projects I've, I've ended up doing just
01:27:46.100
cause I think I've always had a just high level of curiosity and empathy for, for other
01:27:51.000
Um, where do you think that comes from for you?
01:27:58.480
I guess the way I was rated, we did, we moved around a lot.
01:28:00.660
Well, there was my family, like on my mom's side, there was a lot of trouble.
01:28:05.560
Like my grandma, she's, she, she's, she buried all of her kids, but, but one, um, and a lot
01:28:12.660
Um, and I think I come from, you know, a certain kind of stock, uh, that, and then my, you know,
01:28:22.140
my uncle, he was a quadriplegic from the time he was like 17.
01:28:25.480
So my entire life spending a lot of time in like nursing homes and, um, you know, those
01:28:30.380
kinds of environments that can be fairly traumatizing for a young kid to just hearing like beeps
01:28:34.440
and people wandering around with, you know, maybe dementia and Alzheimer's and it can
01:28:38.580
be, uh, and they're usually not the most well-lit places, but we, you know, we're constantly
01:28:44.920
kind of in those environments, you know, and, you know, feeding him at, you know, you know,
01:28:51.160
meals and I don't know, just different things like that.
01:28:53.020
You said wanting to take care of your grandmother whenever you, uh, were, you know, when you
01:28:56.300
guys' house went through that trauma and stuff like that.
01:29:01.820
Like I lived in like five States by the time I was 12.
01:29:06.040
So you have to be willing to open yourself up to people because you got to be liked,
01:29:10.280
you got to be accepted, you got to be, you got to fit in, you got to find a way.
01:29:14.040
Um, especially as a kid, that's harder for a kid.
01:29:20.060
I, well, certainly kind of, it's all a part of the, I think how our personalities develop
01:29:28.200
You can dig deep to figure out, Oh, that's why I am.
01:29:33.240
I think for a kid to move to a new place, that's a lot, you know?
01:29:35.880
Um, I told my parents when we first moved to Florida from South Jersey, I was like, I was
01:29:39.800
like, cause I really loved South Jersey and I was just like, I'm going to paint my walls
01:29:46.760
I'm going to wear Marilyn Manson shirts when your friends come over.
01:29:49.300
Like, yeah, one of my favorite, one of my favorite friends, you know, that's it.
01:30:00.560
I'm going to paint my fucking ceiling fan black.
01:30:07.520
Dude, I, uh, my buddy Jeff, dude, he was, he was hilarious.
01:30:11.760
We would go over to his house and I've told this part of the story before, but, um, we
01:30:16.640
would, I go, we all, we'd all go outside and get high.
01:30:19.860
And then I would come in the house and I would, I would come in before everybody.
01:30:23.660
Uh, I would tell, um, his dad that they were high.
01:30:41.080
But I would say that they were high and one of them and they were seeming some of the
01:30:43.940
behaviors they'd have been doing and seem a little zesty or whatever.
01:30:46.300
Something like throwing a little nugget like that.
01:30:48.040
And you, you can fucking kind of hear his fucking.
01:30:58.640
If he thought like his, if kids were being high and zesty, it scared him a little.
01:31:02.440
But anyway, then I would sit in there and wait and they would come in and he would
01:31:07.580
just be looking at him and they would, it was always like, do not tell my dad, I'm
01:31:12.480
And just seeing the dad fucking figure him out, bro.
01:31:15.340
I would, I would lay there in the other room crying of laughter.
01:31:19.440
Just knowing that, that they're about to get beat.
01:31:22.360
Knowing that this whole scenario had been created.
01:31:24.420
But my buddy, Jeff, dude, he had this like anger sometimes and he, uh, would go play
01:31:40.440
And then every year for Christmas, his parents would redo the drywall.
01:31:47.920
And then, uh, he ended up kind of working in a construction.
01:31:52.280
And so now he, like even as an adult, some shit, whatever, fucking kick a hole in his
01:32:05.320
Uh, and shout out the, uh, the least favorite singer of offspring.
01:32:09.080
He came up to a show one time and I told him that story and I'd waited my whole life to
01:32:16.280
Um, and my, yeah, we just had so much fun, dude.
01:32:21.160
Like in the town I grew up, it was such a small town.
01:32:22.900
It was like, um, yeah, I mean the, our, if we skipped school, it was to like go float
01:32:28.080
down the river and we would go to the Walmart and then, you know, usually it started out
01:32:31.840
just, you know, you buy an air mattress for a couple of bucks.
01:32:33.700
Um, but yeah, you're just sitting at the Walmart looking around like, you know, Benjamin Franklin,
01:32:38.000
like, all right, well, you know, what do you think we can get to float?
01:32:40.020
And I remember one time we got this like eight foot by four foot kids, like swimming pool.
01:32:43.900
We fit like six dudes in the, and a cooler, a beer in the middle and, you know, push off
01:32:53.720
I miss, I, I, of course you miss it, but yeah, I, I just like that kind of stuff was so much
01:32:58.240
fun when the world, when everything felt so new and the world didn't, it felt big in some
01:33:03.420
ways, but it, but your view was so concise kind of.
01:33:10.000
Well, cause you're not, you're typically not jaded.
01:33:12.700
You know, at that point, at that point, that's what I noticed when I, you just have to eat and
01:33:18.840
When I've shot, when I've shot movies in some, uh, you know, underprivileged areas,
01:33:25.480
uh, I mean, I'll see these kids playing in what you would basically describe as like a
01:33:30.300
landfill and they're so happy and they're just kicking around trash.
01:33:35.860
And you just realize like children, like for the most part are innately happy.
01:33:39.640
They don't know what else, especially where we were at.
01:33:42.540
It's like, they don't know what else out there.
01:33:43.660
They don't know how we're living, how people are living in other parts of the, the world.
01:33:48.020
It's really, it's like, it's, um, um, it's, it's touching and it's, it's also, you know,
01:33:54.620
And, but it's, I always, whenever a kid gets kind of their childhood taken away from them
01:33:59.580
too early or they have to become an adult too early, that's, that's tough.
01:34:04.160
It's like, no, these, like, this was the time, you know, for you to just be a kid.
01:34:10.740
You think that that would be audit like it, that, that, that would be kind of guaranteed,
01:34:14.620
you know, maybe one day it will be, maybe that's where we're all headed.
01:34:18.440
It's like, uh, you know, I know, uh, you know, telling people, I, you know, adult, adulting,
01:34:25.120
adult life's, uh, you know, really tough for them.
01:34:27.700
And because it's tough on them, they're, they're kid, you know, a lot of time is handed
01:34:31.640
a little more, I think responsibility or even just emotional, um, yeah.
01:34:36.880
Stuff they shouldn't have to think about that sort of thing.
01:34:39.740
I know a guy who used to wake his kids up and get them to pee for him so we could go
01:34:45.960
They ran a snow cone stand in our town and I'll probably have to take that part out.
01:34:50.080
We don't have a lot of snow cone stands in our town.
01:34:55.700
Um, anything else you want to tell us about the film?
01:34:59.720
Any reason like why you believe like, or was there anything like about it that resonated
01:35:07.820
Did you give notes on the edits just, or anything like, um, I don't know.
01:35:13.960
I just, I just think cause we had our, you know, first premiere up in Toronto and it was
01:35:21.320
Like how many people you said, cause it does, it just really makes you think about your
01:35:25.940
own kind of, uh, mortality and loved ones, but people really wanted to, I mean, for me,
01:35:31.020
those are my favorite movies where you're, you're, you know, leaves you really thinking.
01:35:35.380
Um, but I think it's, it's just really, it's a really funny movie.
01:35:39.320
I think it's really sweet and sincere and all of Kelly's girls were, were crying.
01:35:47.120
I mean, there's some moments that are dealing with heavy.
01:35:49.520
I mean, well, you're dealing with something that's maybe inevitable or not based on kind
01:35:54.500
of what you're taking supplements wise and how you take care of, take care of the dojo
01:36:01.880
But it is, it's just, it's just my wife says her favorite film that I've ever been in her
01:36:07.560
favorite film, maybe of the last, like, you know, however long I, and also I feel like
01:36:12.400
I think it's a movie that, um, I think it can, I think it fits with kind of the classic
01:36:20.500
romantic comedies that are more character driven.
01:36:26.320
I'm just really excited for, for people to see it.
01:36:31.860
No, so it comes out in theaters nationwide, uh, like Thanksgiving.
01:36:37.300
So great holiday, uh, film, take your, your mom, your grandma.
01:36:43.320
I think anybody, a whole family could go see it.
01:36:46.620
And, uh, yeah, I do think some of those questions, it, yeah, it made me feel a little bit more
01:36:55.100
It's, it was something that I, it's certainly something that I hadn't seen before.
01:37:00.280
And I thought that was, uh, it was very creative.
01:37:04.120
Um, and then when you're thinking about love, you're thinking about the afterlife, you're thinking
01:37:06.680
about the choices that we make and stuff like that.
01:37:08.480
But, you know, it made me a little mournful that like, there's some moments you never
01:37:11.860
get to, it's like, oh, I didn't, you know, like you'll start to think, oh, I didn't have
01:37:16.560
But then it's like, but that couldn't even have been a reality in my life.
01:37:21.520
But it was just, it's just interesting to kind of think about things like that.
01:37:24.880
Um, you know, I like, I like thinking about matters of the heart and stuff like that.
01:37:28.240
Uh, oh, the last thing I was going to tell you.
01:37:30.620
So yeah, I went to the Venerable game, but I saw these two, there was two kids there and
01:37:34.600
they were there with their dad and their dad had just gotten back from service.
01:37:37.480
He was in, uh, Qatar and he, and right when I saw the kids, like, oh dude, my dad saw you
01:37:44.800
I'd went over there and did a, just a, um, a thing for the military or like.
01:37:50.640
No, it was like, they were doing like, uh, something, something for troops.
01:37:55.620
The president was doing something over there and they were doing some troops thing.
01:37:58.520
But, um, but anyway, it was just, they're like, oh dude, our dad.
01:38:02.280
And you could just tell, like, I was like, oh, how long were you there for?
01:38:04.780
And he's like, I was there for a year and it was just like, I don't know.
01:38:09.940
You're glad, are you, are you guys glad your dad is home?
01:38:14.620
It's just, you just see the, some of the sacrifice.
01:38:17.000
It was just a moment that I had to witness, like kind of firsthand, a little bit of like
01:38:20.280
the sacrifice that, um, that sons deal with, that fathers deal with, that people deal with
01:38:29.120
This guy, the guy that I played in, uh, thank you for service.
01:38:35.500
Um, he, you know, cause people say, you know, thank you for service.
01:38:38.620
And a lot of the time people say that sometimes to just alleviate their own guilt of having not
01:38:44.240
served, but you know, I've heard guys talk about, it's weird.
01:38:47.180
You're thanking me for something that, Hey, I signed up for, I wanted to do, or you're
01:38:51.060
thanking me for, you don't, you don't even know what my job was.
01:38:53.580
And it's just a complicated kind of decorative term that we use out of lack of, of knowing,
01:38:58.700
but he would say the thing that really broke him.
01:39:01.980
He was, you know, filling up his, um, uh, you know, his, his truck, uh, with gas and,
01:39:09.360
And then, you know, a guy saw that and, you know, basically just kind of shook his hand
01:39:12.340
and, you know, said like, welcome home, you know, welcome home, son.
01:39:17.320
And that's, you know, it's, it's, uh, yeah, it's, it's tough.
01:39:23.820
It's, it's, but you're, that's, we can do what we do because those men and women are
01:39:31.520
over there doing, you know, doing the dirty work.
01:39:34.540
I mean, our job is built on the freedom of speech, you know?
01:39:38.360
Like it doesn't even exist if people, uh, if people aren't, uh, making the sacrifice
01:39:45.380
Um, but yeah, that'd be great to be able to talk with Gary Sinise.
01:39:48.280
I know he does a lot with the, with the, for veterans and, um, yeah, it's nice to just
01:39:54.080
It's nice to be reminded of a space to another reason to staff gratitude for the things we
01:39:58.860
But also it's like, it's different parts of the, like we're, you know, growing up in
01:40:03.360
Florida, I feel like there's so many people that, uh, you know, had family members in
01:40:06.880
the military, um, but it's, it's a lot more socio like economic driven now to where the
01:40:14.420
military it's, it doesn't feel like the entire country is really a part of it and it's really
01:40:21.540
Um, so it's kind of, it'll be interesting in the next like 25 years, 50 years of who you
01:40:28.740
kind of have to live in these certain areas to, to have a relationship with somebody who's
01:40:38.700
You know, it, during, uh, in ancient Rome, they used to have the, the, the politicians were
01:40:43.780
also on the battlefield, which is pretty fascinating.
01:40:46.780
So it was like the rules that they were making, if they, if they were going to send people
01:40:51.200
into battle, they were going to have to be associated with those rules.
01:40:53.800
And I think it would be, I mean, who am I to say I didn't serve, but it would be, you
01:41:00.980
know, I think maybe some of the rules we would make might be some of the choices we would
01:41:05.840
make might be a little bit different if it felt like skin in the game.
01:41:08.980
I think there's always some value in having skin in the game.
01:41:10.980
I think that's just a tricky thing with politics in general, when you just can't recognize
01:41:16.460
the, um, you know, the, the elected officials and the leaders, you just feel like you cannot
01:41:26.180
Um, and it feels like those margins are getting wider, getting wider, right?
01:41:30.840
Dude, that might be a cool, I'm sure there's a cool film out there.
01:41:34.760
Well, man, I hope you continue to serve us in, uh, in great ways by bringing art to life.
01:41:44.540
And, uh, yeah, thank you so much, dude, for all the entertainment and for stopping by and
01:41:51.620
Um, Thanksgiving week, you guys can check out Eternity, um, with Miles Teller and Elizabeth
01:41:58.540
And also my, uh, my wife, Kelly, uh, she's coming out with a, like a pajama, a robe line.
01:42:20.720
Did you know right when you met her that that was a one?
01:42:22.580
I knew she was like the most beautiful girl I'd ever seen.
01:42:27.780
Um, she's the most pure hearted person I've ever met in my life.
01:42:32.020
I didn't know that obviously when I saw her, I was just attracted to her face.
01:42:35.600
Um, you know, and, uh, but then as I've gotten to, um, you know, but then we're pretty inseparable
01:42:48.240
My career just started and she, you know, and I remember my boys, my Florida boys I moved
01:42:53.300
out with, um, when they start seeing her hanging around more and more, I'm like, yeah, well,
01:42:57.580
And they're like, what the fuck are you talking about?
01:42:59.500
They're like, why would you have a girlfriend right now?
01:43:08.060
I was like, well, you know, I, I, I was probably like, yeah.
01:43:15.460
But also I'm not ready for her to just leave me either.
01:43:20.020
You know, it's like, I don't want, this one's not getting away.
01:43:27.840
Dude, we literally like, I never get, I never get sick of her.
01:43:30.840
I like, and when I, and when I tell people the difference is like, you know, most people
01:43:36.200
And when I'm filming, certainly it's like that.
01:43:37.880
But when I'm not, it's like, and she comes with me when I'm filming, it's like, I see
01:43:41.640
her from the moment I wake up to the moment I go to bed, you know, maybe I go work out
01:43:46.140
for a little bit or do something like that, but we are with each other all of the time
01:43:51.960
Like that truly is like, that's what she cracks me up.
01:44:00.560
She says being calm is her superpower, but she is, she's just like unflappable.
01:44:14.420
You guys were sitting out there out back together, man.
01:44:16.420
I think almost every time I've seen you, except for that one time that you were dancing by
01:44:33.320
And it's fun to bring us into your world for a little while.
01:44:37.360
Check out Kelly's new pajamas and, and congratulations, man, on everything.
01:44:45.760
Now, I'm just floating on the breeze, and I feel I'm falling like these leaves.
01:44:57.160
Oh, but when I reach that ground, I'll share this peace of mind I found.
01:45:02.660
I can feel it in my bones, but it's gonna tell you.