This Past Weekend with Theo Von - December 18, 2025


#629 - The Pursuit


Episode Stats

Length

1 hour and 3 minutes

Words per Minute

155.97246

Word Count

9,899

Sentence Count

916

Misogynist Sentences

39

Hate Speech Sentences

32


Summary

Happy Holidays! In this episode of the podcast, we talk about our favorite holiday traditions and what we look forward to in the new year. We also talk about what we are thankful for in our favorite holidays.


Transcript

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00:01:45.440 And thank you guys so much.
00:01:47.540 Happy holidays.
00:01:50.180 Lord, I got some things I need to say.
00:01:53.760 Lord, I got some things I need to say.
00:01:59.040 The studs, man, everybody saw that beautiful, they had a lesbian lady,
00:02:02.660 and it was kind of a little, kind of a little chocolatey lesbian out there,
00:02:05.300 and she was helping people get to heaven.
00:02:10.120 She is that Willy Wonka.
00:02:11.820 She's that kind of lesbian Willy Wonka.
00:02:14.520 And she's helping people get to heaven, baby.
00:02:16.500 Praise God.
00:02:17.000 I loved seeing that.
00:02:19.660 Play it up a little bit if we can show that.
00:02:25.260 Lord, I got some things I need to say.
00:02:28.780 Lord, I got some things I need to say.
00:02:33.040 This ain't double, you can't win.
00:02:35.040 You can't win.
00:02:45.600 Okay, a truck went by right there.
00:02:48.380 That's nothing, twin.
00:03:01.380 Dang, bro.
00:03:02.040 Two, one, two, three, release them.
00:03:05.380 I wish you'd have a natural for you.
00:03:08.780 That's what's up, baby.
00:03:09.820 And that's what's beautiful about the world.
00:03:11.280 That's beautiful.
00:03:11.900 Look at that.
00:03:13.480 Lesbians helping people get to heaven.
00:03:16.120 That's where we are.
00:03:18.400 It's a lesbian heaven, baby.
00:03:19.780 That's what it is.
00:03:20.320 A thug holiday.
00:03:21.160 It's December 2025, and I'm grateful to sit here with you today and to have a moment of
00:03:29.240 each other's time.
00:03:31.480 I really am.
00:03:32.260 And yeah, back in the day, were lesbians allowed to help people get to heaven?
00:03:38.060 I would say no.
00:03:39.040 You would see lesbians high-fiving each other.
00:03:43.780 You would see lesbians.
00:03:45.020 They were unticklable.
00:03:46.060 That was a thing you could tell if you tickled a woman and they didn't laugh.
00:03:53.240 But they had just gotten like a fade, a boosy fade.
00:03:58.480 Those were kind of giveaways at the time, but now things are different.
00:04:02.740 Yeah, it just feels like there's things you want to yell at the heavens.
00:04:07.160 And I'll expound on that.
00:04:08.360 I'll get into that a little bit.
00:04:10.380 We're going to get to some of you guys' calls.
00:04:13.220 I'm happy to have this time.
00:04:14.600 And yeah, I know people, congratulations to anybody who's coming off like a sober October.
00:04:24.420 You know, I know there's that.
00:04:25.460 There's No Nut November, 40 Fart March, if anybody did that this year, which is pretty fun.
00:04:36.940 People don't do it much, but it's, you know, trying to fart just 40 times in March.
00:04:44.600 And nighttime doesn't count.
00:04:46.480 Nighttime doesn't count.
00:04:48.260 So, yeah, that's, you don't tally those.
00:04:52.140 But what else?
00:04:54.820 There's, yeah, Movember, where you don't shave or whatever for HIV or whatever.
00:05:00.320 There's, what, 11 Shit June is another one.
00:05:04.460 If you've never, you want to make your own Vietnam, baby, try an 11 Shit June.
00:05:10.240 Try an 11 Shit June.
00:05:11.820 And do not try, do not try, do not, this is not advice.
00:05:17.720 We're just saying, these are things people do.
00:05:20.220 I'm not telling anybody to go do it.
00:05:23.300 Now, if you do, do an 11 SJ and you do, do duties in the middle of the night, that counts.
00:05:32.860 If you're, you know, if you're night shitting or whatever, that, that counts.
00:05:36.820 Those count.
00:05:39.880 But, yeah, people are challenging themselves in the world, you know, so it's good to know that we are still out there challenging ourselves as humans, as humans that exist.
00:05:51.760 So, congratulations to anybody that's going through, that's been through any of those things this year.
00:05:57.740 Or, and you start to, you start to wonder, you start to wonder, like, why, why does it feel like maybe our country is, like, we're losing or we're falling behind or as humans that we might be overtaken by robots.
00:06:11.460 And then you realize, oh, I know why, because we're doing an 11 Shit June.
00:06:15.460 Like, we're doing No Nut November.
00:06:20.160 You know, that's what we're focusing on.
00:06:23.560 Or, like, a 2,000 step timber, you know.
00:06:28.780 Some people did, I know, 2,000 step timber.
00:06:31.420 And that's kind of crazy.
00:06:32.460 We only do 2,000 steps in that month.
00:06:34.520 That's pretty cool.
00:06:35.920 There's different ones out there.
00:06:37.040 I'd love to know more of them.
00:06:37.880 If you know some, drop those off in the hotline, 985-664-9503.
00:06:44.580 Let me know some of the challenges that you and your friends have been putting yourselves through over time.
00:06:51.540 But, yeah, happy to be alive here, still in America.
00:06:54.960 And one thing that I learned this year that I thought was interesting or that I listened about was Ken Burns when he came on.
00:07:07.040 And he was talking about the Declaration of Independence.
00:07:11.340 And he was talking about the American Revolution.
00:07:14.580 And he said that, like, the Declaration of Independence was, it's just a, it's like, it's not, it's definitive, but only as long as it's taken care of.
00:07:26.180 Right?
00:07:26.820 It's like, it's not guaranteed throughout time that there's going to be an America or that these are the laws and the ways that things are going to be.
00:07:37.300 So, yeah, it's like, I think I've just always thought that America was guaranteed.
00:07:45.800 That's what I thought.
00:07:46.600 I thought, oh, well, America, yeah, it's guaranteed.
00:07:49.660 Right?
00:07:50.260 This will always be here.
00:07:53.400 Whether we say it's, things are good in America or things are bad in America, that it will always be there.
00:07:59.080 And then you start to realize, well, that's not the truth.
00:08:04.940 There's nothing that says America has to be there forever.
00:08:08.160 You know, as much as it would be hard for us to conceptualize it, that's, that, that America disappearing or being taken over or renamed, basically, or having a merger is far-fetched.
00:08:24.960 It's not, it's not impossible because it's not a guaranteed thing.
00:08:28.900 Right, the Declaration of Independence, it's a, it's a hopeful letter to the future.
00:08:33.780 It's a, it's almost like we, we look at the Declaration of Independence more like a receipt than like a, like a worksheet.
00:08:42.180 That's what I think of.
00:08:43.200 Or just as America that way.
00:08:46.660 And I'm not trying to get real highbrow, like I know that, like, this is how we need to be or anything like that.
00:08:52.680 I'm just, I'm kind of thinking of just how I have taken it for granted, just how it's like, this thing won't always be here unless we protect it.
00:09:05.600 Now, what gets scary is when the America that we believe is one way starts to change.
00:09:12.740 And then you're like, well, what am I protecting?
00:09:18.920 And I think that's also some of the place where we are right now.
00:09:23.680 Um, but yeah, I, I just was like, yeah, I've always kind of just assumed America would be here, that it would be this steadfast thing, but that's not the truth.
00:09:33.820 It's, you know, throughout time, places have changed and they've been overtaken and they've, um, had different rulers from different places come in.
00:09:42.940 Um, I'm sure there's been a lot of places that have been sold out from under their feet.
00:09:47.000 So, I don't know, just thinking about that, not trying to get into like a negative space about it, but just like that having an America is an active thing.
00:09:58.680 It's not a passive thing and that's scary.
00:10:04.480 And then also though, it's exciting because there is some challenge like, okay, how do I contribute instead of just, um, assume?
00:10:18.180 Um, so those are just some, some stuff I'm thinking about and, and, uh, yeah, I've had a tough time, like keeping some of my thoughts organized, um, recently.
00:10:30.300 Uh, and so I'm just doing my best.
00:10:36.940 Um, what else have I been thinking about?
00:10:41.860 Uh, I think I, I've been thinking about like how much, you know, the person I would like to be in the person that I am and the distance between those two.
00:11:00.300 Um, and how much do I, how much do I really want, how much do I really want to be the, the best version of myself?
00:11:14.940 I think I want to, but I guess how much work do I want to put in?
00:11:19.300 Like here I am with all this gift of, of just a being alive, right?
00:11:23.740 Of being alive, of being able to like exist in the universe.
00:11:27.780 I can smell things.
00:11:29.400 If somebody's cooking muffins, I can, um, smell it.
00:11:32.840 I can make macaroni.
00:11:34.580 I can go for a walk.
00:11:36.440 I can look at my neighbor.
00:11:38.680 Um, yeah, there's all these little things you can do for, that are like make you alive.
00:11:44.360 And then it's like, yeah, some of that just, I just get comfortable.
00:11:49.220 So yeah, I think I've just been thinking about, well, how, how much more on, like, am I willing
00:11:58.380 to get more uncomfortable to see if I can be more and just yet to get to know myself more?
00:12:09.960 Um, yeah.
00:12:15.420 And then what, am I afraid of something if I don't do that?
00:12:21.060 You know, there's practices in like, just like, um, my dating life or my like time scheduling
00:12:27.000 or, um, my organization, all those types of things where I could be doing, you know, um,
00:12:34.740 where I could be doing better, you know, to have just like better sense of integrity with
00:12:42.280 myself.
00:12:43.440 Um, and yeah, it's like, but sometimes I want to take the easy way out or I just want to,
00:12:52.040 uh, do what feels good or.
00:12:57.220 Or yeah.
00:12:59.900 And, and I'm not being super hard on myself.
00:13:02.120 I'm just thinking like, I guess how many times do I want to go in some of these patterns
00:13:06.680 where I don't get a different outcome?
00:13:14.300 Um, yeah.
00:13:17.260 So I guess I'm just thinking about that as the year ends and we're coming into a new year
00:13:20.420 and, uh, and then like realistically challenging myself.
00:13:27.220 Yeah.
00:13:27.680 Cause I don't want to set myself up for just for failure.
00:13:30.380 And then I don't want to be too hard on myself.
00:13:33.020 Um, so what are some realistic ways to challenge myself?
00:13:37.560 Um, so yeah, I'm not looking for any self pity or anything like that.
00:13:43.040 I'm just thinking out loud.
00:13:44.780 You know, I fell into a weird spot in this show over the past few years where I used to
00:13:48.660 just think out loud and then, uh, and then I started fearing that a lot of it was self
00:13:54.340 pity.
00:13:54.620 So yeah, just, I'm just grateful to be thinking out loud.
00:13:58.580 I'm grateful to have some time to think out loud and I'm going to try to meditate more
00:14:02.240 in the coming month.
00:14:03.520 And that's going to help me have some more peace of mind.
00:14:06.560 Um, and that will give my brain a little bit more time, uh, to, uh, feel relaxed and to,
00:14:13.420 um, be able to have thoughts in, uh, be less reactive and more, um, more, uh, responsive.
00:14:25.360 But not reactive.
00:14:27.780 Um, so I'm looking forward to that.
00:14:30.960 Um, is any of this, any of this, uh, this communication making sense Trevin today?
00:14:38.000 Yeah, for sure.
00:14:39.160 Okay.
00:14:39.420 I mean, it even ties back to, uh, the Ken Burns episode.
00:14:42.680 I mean, it's a, like in the declaration, it's the pursuit of happiness.
00:14:45.780 It's a pursuit, you know?
00:14:47.760 Oh, that's what they say in it.
00:14:49.060 Yeah.
00:14:49.800 It's the pursuit of happiness, right?
00:14:51.120 It's like, like, yeah, America wasn't guaranteed.
00:14:55.440 Right.
00:14:55.800 Um, and it's the pursuit of happiness.
00:14:58.360 And it, but it's, yeah, it's something that it's not guaranteed.
00:15:01.620 It's like, it has to continually be achieved.
00:15:06.020 Um, and in the end, the revolution was by the people and it was, it has to be achieved
00:15:11.960 by, uh, like, it's like never before in America has I felt like that we have to be the ones
00:15:19.360 to, uh, pick ourselves up, pick our neighbors up and our friends up and, um, and, and do
00:15:30.540 better, uh, by ourselves and by each other and just, or just continue to do.
00:15:36.740 Right.
00:15:38.640 Um, yeah, just continue to do that.
00:15:42.700 This is a doing.
00:15:44.920 Um, so yeah, I don't know.
00:15:48.260 Maybe I'm seeming crazy, but I just, that's some stuff that's been on my mind.
00:15:52.160 Do you, do, do you think anybody else thinks about that?
00:15:54.940 Trevin?
00:15:55.340 Definitely.
00:15:56.680 I do every day.
00:15:58.560 Thanks, man.
00:15:59.820 Yeah.
00:16:00.220 Thanks for helping me today, dude.
00:16:01.240 I just feel like, yeah, it's just a lot, man.
00:16:03.560 It's a lot.
00:16:04.560 Um, yeah.
00:16:07.260 Yeah, man.
00:16:08.080 Sometimes it's just a lot.
00:16:10.480 And then it's also kind of scary when you realize, shit, this shit isn't guaranteed.
00:16:16.920 You're like, you know, we've been walking around kind of big backing with the American
00:16:20.300 flag in my generation, in my lifetime.
00:16:22.480 Like, damn, we've been, we've been out there big backing, you know, we had Michael
00:16:26.860 Jordan and them went over there and beat the chopsticks off them dogs over there.
00:16:32.560 You know, like in the, uh, dream team, you know what I'm saying?
00:16:36.460 We've had, you know what I'm saying?
00:16:37.680 We've always been like America, but then you start to realize that a lot of the sports,
00:16:43.720 all that's just, that's just, uh, that's the fun.
00:16:48.200 That's the comfort food.
00:16:49.960 The truth is just like, you know, is this going to continue?
00:16:58.140 Is this still going to be, who's this going to be owned by?
00:17:00.980 What's this, how is this going to be operated?
00:17:03.400 Anyway, grateful to be able to think out loud.
00:17:04.960 Thank you guys for listening to me.
00:17:05.920 Thanks for being a part of, um, uh, this podcast.
00:17:10.180 We got to be, um, and thanks Trevin.
00:17:12.400 I appreciate it, man.
00:17:14.760 Um, and congratulations, dude.
00:17:17.060 We got to be on the podcast charts for Spotify.
00:17:20.460 Uh, so I want to thank everybody that helped us make the charts just by paying attention at
00:17:25.340 all or listening or even looking at a, um, social media thing or, um, calling in, uh,
00:17:33.640 letting us be a part of your life and letting us be a part of our lives.
00:17:37.540 Uh, and, um, yeah, I don't know.
00:17:45.460 I feel sad all of a sudden for some reason, kind of trying to think of why a little bit.
00:17:53.800 Let me think.
00:17:56.200 Um, I think it feels a little bit scary.
00:18:03.060 That's what I think it feels like to me.
00:18:06.020 It feels a little scary.
00:18:10.380 Thinking about like what's going to happen and what could happen.
00:18:13.000 And man, maybe I am getting paranoid.
00:18:14.860 I agree.
00:18:16.100 Also just got a new tooth put in.
00:18:17.500 My tooth broke the other day, eating some popcorn on a Southwest flight.
00:18:20.980 Um, but, uh, yeah, I think I'm feeling like.
00:18:25.340 Like just unsure.
00:18:29.360 That's, that's a lot of it.
00:18:30.500 I think I'm feeling unsure about what the future looks like.
00:18:32.980 And it used to feel more certain.
00:18:36.220 And that's kind of spooky.
00:18:38.860 It's kind of spooky to feel some of that.
00:18:40.460 Um, so anyway, not trying to be a downer and, uh, I'm wearing this shirt today.
00:18:49.780 Thank God I wore it.
00:18:50.680 That just made me smile.
00:18:51.560 Um, and yeah, thank everybody that, that, that, that, uh, enjoyed the podcast or paid attention.
00:18:58.880 And yeah, I, I can't believe that we did, um, that people, um, absorbed so many different episodes.
00:19:05.700 And I'm thankful to Joe Rogan who, who helped give me some suggestions, uh, over the past couple of years about podcasting and, um, and just to be able to operate in a world where we get to talk.
00:19:19.000 Like, you know, when I was a kid, I never had a voice.
00:19:21.540 I didn't have a voice for myself.
00:19:23.240 I didn't have anybody, uh, teaching me how to have a voice or how to speak up for myself.
00:19:27.780 Um, I lived in a lot of fear and stuff like that.
00:19:29.620 And, and so to just be in a place, even where I, even if, look, even if it's just like, damn, this, this honky is loud.
00:19:42.560 That just to, I can't even believe that, uh, that that was a turn of a venom, that, that, that was a little, that, that just making any type of chart where your voice is involved, uh, for one minute in time.
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00:22:39.540 Yeah, I just, I can't believe that we get to do this.
00:22:42.800 Thank all the producers that we have.
00:22:44.400 There's a lot.
00:22:44.980 We posted them onto Facebook.
00:22:47.140 We'll run their names at the end of this episode today.
00:22:49.720 Thank you to our producers currently.
00:22:51.500 Trevin, Nick, Zach, Powers, our lead producer, Andrew Baxter, Nick Davis, Trevin Stegall.
00:23:00.480 Is that how you say your last name, Trevin?
00:23:01.460 Stegall.
00:23:02.180 Damn.
00:23:03.280 Fuck, dude.
00:23:04.060 So, we still have a lot to learn here, guys.
00:23:06.400 That's what I'm saying.
00:23:07.140 Trevin Stegall.
00:23:07.820 Well, thank you so much, dude, and yeah, I can't even believe that.
00:23:11.700 Can you believe that?
00:23:13.200 It's crazy.
00:23:14.440 I can't.
00:23:15.280 I mean, that's kind of crazy.
00:23:17.200 Like, I'm not saying next year we'll be back into, you know, we'll be the 11,000th podcast,
00:23:21.560 and in two years we'll be out of business, but it's just funny, man.
00:23:26.320 I just cannot even believe that.
00:23:28.140 That is crazy to me.
00:23:32.120 But, yeah, but just thanks for paying attention.
00:23:35.860 Or not for paying attention, just fucking, I don't know.
00:23:38.800 Thanks for fucking around with us.
00:23:40.560 Thanks for letting us just bother you.
00:23:42.020 That's what I mean, yeah.
00:23:43.660 I honestly mean that.
00:23:45.380 That's what I mean.
00:23:46.300 Thanks for letting us bother you a little bit.
00:23:52.040 All right.
00:23:52.620 Let's get into some calls here.
00:23:54.220 Here we go.
00:23:59.160 Yep.
00:23:59.880 And it's a different time now.
00:24:01.080 We need lesbians to get into heaven, man.
00:24:03.380 And that's the thing.
00:24:04.100 Everybody now, we all got to pull our weight.
00:24:06.900 We all need, even lesbians, we all need lesbians to get into heaven.
00:24:13.820 You know, lesbians are helping people get into heaven.
00:24:15.520 So, obviously, you know.
00:24:21.960 Hey, Theo.
00:24:23.820 I just wanted to call.
00:24:25.960 I wanted to ask you, man.
00:24:27.440 I got a best friend.
00:24:29.540 He has a problem.
00:24:30.780 He's in love with lesbians.
00:24:33.100 All of his girls that he falls in love with turn out to be lesbians.
00:24:37.160 And I just, we need some advice of how he can break through, how he can convert these girls.
00:24:46.360 I just want to know if you got any advice on that, brother.
00:24:50.240 Wow.
00:24:51.940 How to bring a lesbian back, huh?
00:24:55.840 How to bring a stud back out of the solar system and get them right here, boots on the ground.
00:25:03.700 Hmm.
00:25:07.160 I think your buddy, and I've seen this before, and it's the only reason I'm saying this.
00:25:14.480 I had a friend, and I think we could still be friends.
00:25:18.760 We haven't seen each other in a long time, so.
00:25:20.880 But anyway, he really was homosexual.
00:25:27.740 He was homosexual.
00:25:28.360 And he, but he would try to date gay women because he was afraid to just date homosexual men.
00:25:39.960 So it kind of wasn't cool.
00:25:41.600 It's like, if you were just trying to get the, because the truth is, he's trying to get these women that are kind of like men.
00:25:47.640 He's trying to get them to be full men.
00:25:48.880 You know, and he would try to make them get jobs with like UPS or whatever, do that kind of shit to try to get them all the way over there.
00:25:59.160 You know, but now, no matter how many hours you work for UPS or, or you work at the post office or whatever, you ain't going to sprout a wiener.
00:26:09.040 You know, that shit is just, that's facts.
00:26:13.980 So that was the kind of shit that he was trying to do.
00:26:16.680 And we didn't realize it at first.
00:26:17.840 We're just like, damn, he likes these tough women.
00:26:20.360 You know, he likes these women.
00:26:21.760 Like one of his chicks would wear a fucking neck brace for no reason.
00:26:26.140 You know what I'm saying?
00:26:26.980 That bitch was a, she, you know, she would just, she looked like a damn Pez dispenser over there.
00:26:34.160 And she did drywall, you know?
00:26:36.580 Um, and, but anyway, uh, but anyway, the truth was he was trying to convert these women over to men.
00:26:44.400 So I think your buddy could be homosexual, buddy.
00:26:47.600 So I would sit your buddy down and I'd see if he's gay.
00:26:52.920 Is he gay?
00:26:54.600 Is your buddy gay?
00:26:58.240 Um, but after he's done deciding if he likes men or women, tell him to fucking get his shit together and help this country out.
00:27:06.580 Okay, that's all I'm telling him.
00:27:09.320 After he's done deciding if he likes these, because a lot of these lesbian women, they got that long pussy on them.
00:27:16.840 You know what I'm saying, boy.
00:27:18.920 A lot of them, they just, they'll stand there just at night, just, just straining as hard as they can.
00:27:24.640 Just trying to launch that, that, uh, just trying to launch that clam.
00:27:28.980 Just trying to elongate that sea lamb, baby.
00:27:32.300 You know, a lot of them just trying to strain so much, they just sprout a heck.
00:27:36.960 But who knows?
00:27:38.440 And I think I wish him well out there, brother.
00:27:40.600 Praise God.
00:27:40.920 Praise God.
00:27:42.640 Um, let's hear more.
00:27:44.980 What do you think, Trevin?
00:27:45.520 Is that fair to say to those guys?
00:27:47.240 I think definitely if he wants a real challenge, there's bigger fish to fry.
00:27:51.440 Yeah.
00:27:52.240 You're trying to convert a lesbian.
00:27:53.880 Don't mess that lady up like that.
00:27:57.180 Don't, just go either, either get a straight woman or get a gay man.
00:28:01.620 But don't sit here standing on both sides of the fence.
00:28:04.680 You're ruining other people's shit.
00:28:06.300 You out here, you talk, you talking to a girl with a boosy fade and a ball cap over there
00:28:13.920 and a Texas Rangers hat and a wife beater or whatever.
00:28:17.420 And she's taped her nipples down or whatever.
00:28:19.820 Chill out, man.
00:28:21.520 She drew hair on her chest between her tits.
00:28:24.400 And you're, you know, you trying to say, Ooh, you know, let me buy you a, uh, let me buy
00:28:31.160 you some oven mitts or something.
00:28:32.520 Don't do that shit.
00:28:33.960 Get out there and get what you really want.
00:28:35.860 Which is a man.
00:28:37.280 Get that little Christmas wiener, baby.
00:28:39.480 Get that baby antler.
00:28:41.040 You know what I'm saying?
00:28:42.380 That can't.
00:28:45.380 You out here pretending, wasting these lesbian times.
00:28:47.980 Don't waste these lesbian times because we need them right now.
00:28:51.040 They're helping us get into heaven.
00:28:53.540 It's all hands on deck, baby.
00:28:55.200 It's blacks versus drones, baby.
00:28:56.760 Let's go.
00:28:58.440 What else do we have?
00:28:59.880 We got another, uh, call that came in right here.
00:29:04.180 Yo, Theo Vaughn.
00:29:07.420 My name is, my name is Patrick.
00:29:09.700 What's up, Patrick?
00:29:10.860 Uh, good to hear from you, brother.
00:29:12.700 Thank you for calling.
00:29:13.740 Onward.
00:29:14.140 I live in Washington, Illinois.
00:29:16.520 Oh, you live in Washington, Illinois?
00:29:19.160 Dude, my friend Corey used to live there.
00:29:21.120 He was in the pipe fitters union, dude.
00:29:23.180 He might still be in it.
00:29:25.520 I'm not going to text him.
00:29:26.760 Okay, Onward.
00:29:27.360 I kind of need some advice, bro.
00:29:30.280 I, like, I want to ask this girl for her number, but, like, you know, like, I ain't ever really talked to her that much.
00:29:37.500 Like, we talked a little bit, but, like, not that much.
00:29:40.320 And low-key, we got three lunch hours at our school.
00:29:44.560 And we, I don't know what one she's switching to next semester after Christmas break.
00:29:50.080 So, like, can you, like, give me some advice to, like, you know, uh, get her a number before Christmas break?
00:29:57.620 I mean, dude, I, if you're trying to get, I remember that stuff.
00:30:02.080 Were you trying to get a girl's number at school?
00:30:04.540 That's hard, bro.
00:30:07.400 God, because the nerves, dude, my nerves were so high during school, I couldn't even do anything.
00:30:12.800 Dude, every time I even saw a girl, I had to go to the office and get ice on my head.
00:30:16.780 Dude, if I tried to ask a girl to a dance or whatever, I would just wake up in the lobby or whatever, covered in ice or whatever, eight bags of ice.
00:30:26.040 They'd have me, fuck, just iced out, bro.
00:30:29.160 I look like damn 2 Chainz out there running a fever, though, dude.
00:30:32.380 It was just, dude, I didn't, they, yeah.
00:30:35.340 If I even, dude, if I even wrote check yes or no on a piece of paper, I'd fucking, I'd fall out my chair like one of those little Joe Rogan baby videos, you know?
00:30:45.480 So, dude, I don't have any advice.
00:30:47.780 Are you kidding, bro?
00:30:49.060 What are you even talking about, dude?
00:30:51.660 You know, I couldn't do shit.
00:30:53.220 You haven't heard any of these podcasts, bro?
00:30:54.920 I got nothing, dog.
00:30:56.420 You think I got advice for you?
00:30:59.520 Dude, I don't have a woman.
00:31:01.120 You think I can help you get somebody?
00:31:04.080 And I will say this, though, dude.
00:31:05.820 Dude, there's nothing better than talking to the girl and win or lose because you walk off and you're like, yup, at least I tried, bro.
00:31:21.540 That's American shit.
00:31:23.840 That's American shit, bro.
00:31:26.500 Dude, just say, hey, give me half your number.
00:31:29.140 Don't even put it all on her.
00:31:31.780 Give me half your number because that's even easier.
00:31:34.300 Because here's the thing, if she wants you to have all of it, she'll make sure you get the rest of it.
00:31:39.000 Say, hey, give me half your number and then give her an envelope or something with your address on it for the mail.
00:31:46.180 Put the stamps on it and say, look, if you want me to have the other half, send me that bit.
00:31:52.160 You know, then at least you got some excitement coming.
00:31:54.380 You got Santa sending you something.
00:31:56.980 Christmas means something right there.
00:31:58.680 So that's kind of something, dude.
00:32:02.200 But yeah, dude, I remember I asked some girl to a dance one time.
00:32:05.840 She said yes.
00:32:07.020 I was high on mushrooms.
00:32:08.400 I will admit that.
00:32:09.280 But I got so excited right when she said yes.
00:32:11.380 I ran through this party of children outdoors.
00:32:15.380 Ran, jumped over a chain link fence, cut my hand and stomach open.
00:32:20.960 Had to go to emergency room, ambulance, everything.
00:32:23.120 So, yeah, dude, you got the wrong guy, bro.
00:32:28.820 But I love that, bro.
00:32:30.600 And yeah, dude, you get over there and you say, look, I would love to have one number of your phone number.
00:32:38.540 Just start there.
00:32:39.540 Don't ask for the whole number, bro.
00:32:41.080 Don't be greedy, bro.
00:32:42.640 Get one number.
00:32:45.040 See what happened, bro.
00:32:46.040 You know what I'm saying?
00:32:46.560 Leave room for God to work.
00:32:49.220 Praise God, brother.
00:32:50.220 Good luck out there.
00:32:51.980 What do you think, Trevon?
00:32:52.940 That's fair.
00:32:53.960 He's got to pursue it, bro.
00:32:55.820 Pursue the happiness.
00:32:57.140 Yeah, you got to pursue.
00:32:58.180 That's true.
00:32:58.620 It's the pursuit of happiness.
00:32:59.720 It's not guaranteed, bro.
00:33:02.780 That's true.
00:33:03.320 It's the pursuit.
00:33:04.020 You're right, bro.
00:33:05.180 Yeah, you got to get over there.
00:33:08.440 Dude, I'm trying to think of what you could do.
00:33:10.840 But you can't be crazy, dude.
00:33:12.460 Look, if she's not interested, you can't make somebody interested.
00:33:15.440 But you can just have a little bit of energy about you.
00:33:18.000 Oh, here we go right here.
00:33:23.440 And happy holidays to everybody and Merry Christmas.
00:33:25.660 The hotline is always 985-664-9503.
00:33:29.680 Hey, Theo.
00:33:35.900 My name's Casey.
00:33:38.380 What's up, Casey?
00:33:39.360 Thanks for calling.
00:33:40.520 I'm drinking a little Celsius.
00:33:41.660 I'm a fan.
00:33:42.840 I've been listening for a long time.
00:33:45.480 I'm a little drunk right now, which is the only reason I called in.
00:33:50.340 Just want to let you know, I just listened to your episode where you were talking about garlic bread.
00:33:56.220 It's the best.
00:33:57.620 I love garlic bread so much.
00:34:01.620 I can't even tell you how much I freaking love garlic bread.
00:34:04.480 But even more than that, I love you.
00:34:08.040 I love garlic bread and I love you.
00:34:10.920 Just want to let you know, you're the best.
00:34:14.160 Keep doing what you're doing.
00:34:16.340 Don't ever stop.
00:34:18.920 Love you.
00:34:19.820 I love garlic bread and I love you.
00:34:22.520 Mwah.
00:34:26.640 Dang, that girl's Italian, boy.
00:34:30.160 Wow.
00:34:31.960 That garlic bread, that shit is good, bro.
00:34:34.480 When that shit gets hard at the edges, bro, and it turns up a little.
00:34:38.520 Because you start that bit, it's flat, right?
00:34:40.680 That garlic bread, man.
00:34:42.680 You know what I'm saying, man.
00:34:44.160 And you put that in, at the end, it turns up a little like.
00:34:48.900 Like the edges are trying to get into the middle.
00:34:51.080 That's what's up.
00:34:52.800 I'm like, damn.
00:34:54.200 Maybe, girl, it's like that.
00:34:55.420 I'm going to leave the window open for you.
00:34:57.920 So, but yeah, that woman's Italian.
00:35:01.720 All right.
00:35:02.600 Thank you for calling.
00:35:03.400 And yeah, thank you for liking garlic bread.
00:35:07.020 I like it.
00:35:07.860 And I'm glad that I like it.
00:35:11.040 So, all right.
00:35:13.740 What else we got here?
00:35:15.860 Hey, Theo.
00:35:16.700 It's Colin.
00:35:18.260 Hey, man.
00:35:18.880 It's December 1st right now.
00:35:21.240 And, you know, it's supposed to be the holidays where everyone's all happy and shit.
00:35:26.980 But man, every year, this time of year is the worst for me.
00:35:30.760 Like, everyone's supposed to be happy during Christmas.
00:35:33.600 And I'm just sitting there trying to just pretend to be happy.
00:35:37.240 But it's tough.
00:35:38.000 I don't know.
00:35:40.460 I got my birthday this month, too.
00:35:42.840 And, like, everything is supposed to be good.
00:35:44.680 But it's always just a rough time of year.
00:35:47.940 I was curious if you ever dealt with that or had any advice.
00:35:51.040 Appreciate you.
00:35:51.860 Gang gang.
00:35:52.240 Yeah, man.
00:35:54.600 Thanks for the call.
00:35:57.000 Dylan, what was it?
00:35:58.540 Hey, Theo.
00:35:59.600 It's Colin.
00:36:00.940 Colin.
00:36:01.700 Sorry.
00:36:03.720 Yeah, dude.
00:36:05.900 Dude, there's sometimes when I get on here to do this podcast where I am not as happy as I, you know, this is the, like, this is me.
00:36:16.040 Like, kind of, not maximum happiness, but there's times where I sit down and I think about stuff and sometimes I want to, like, I don't want to be happy.
00:36:28.440 You know, I want to either be more earnest or I want to be more, like, share things that I'm scared of or fear.
00:36:35.860 You know, I think there's times like that.
00:36:38.300 There's times where I feel some responsibility.
00:36:40.180 Like, oh, I can't have people listen in and they're listening to some guy be sad.
00:36:44.560 That's shitty.
00:36:45.160 You know, what's even going on then?
00:36:49.020 And not in a heavy way, but, yeah, it's like, yeah, I mean, yeah, sometimes I'm scared.
00:36:59.540 I'm scared about stuff.
00:37:01.900 You know?
00:37:02.740 I'm scared what, you know, if everything's going to be okay.
00:37:07.300 That's, like, a big fear that's always with me.
00:37:10.680 You know?
00:37:11.260 And I don't even know where it came from.
00:37:12.440 It's been there my whole life.
00:37:13.900 Is everything going to be okay?
00:37:15.380 Think about that fear, right?
00:37:17.780 I'm just thinking about it out loud.
00:37:19.020 I've never really even thought about it.
00:37:21.020 What an insane fear.
00:37:23.120 I've had it since I was a kid.
00:37:24.160 Is everything going to be okay?
00:37:26.540 I've never said it vocally out like this before.
00:37:28.920 That's an impossible thing for somebody to carry around.
00:37:32.720 That's realistic, right?
00:37:34.780 Of course, everything isn't going to be okay.
00:37:38.180 But to think that there's some kid that is, like, you know, that as a kid or as a young man, I was walking with that all the time.
00:37:45.760 And then it still sometimes is like a bead of sweat that, you know, kind of shows up on the shower door of my brain sometimes, you know?
00:38:00.820 Um, yeah.
00:38:02.900 Is everything going to be okay?
00:38:03.880 Fuck no, it's not.
00:38:05.960 Some things will, some things, but it just, you know, that weird feeling, you know, that's something that's like, um, oh, I have to do something.
00:38:18.500 What do I need to do?
00:38:19.320 That's always been something that's a thing that's one of my repetitive things.
00:38:22.280 What do I have to do?
00:38:24.560 You know, like if people are over, I'm always like, is it too hot?
00:38:26.540 Is it too cold?
00:38:27.140 I'm staying, like, I can't, there's no, like, are you hot or cold?
00:38:31.480 50 seconds later, I'm like, hey.
00:38:34.100 I know we've been talking for another minute or two.
00:38:35.980 Are you getting any hotter or colder?
00:38:37.920 It's like, I can't, you know.
00:38:41.900 It's tough for me to let things be.
00:38:43.680 It's tough for me to let things be.
00:38:49.320 It's tough for me not to take an action and do something.
00:38:52.820 Because that's scary.
00:38:56.620 It's scary for me.
00:38:57.560 If I let things be, then it's out of my control.
00:39:04.680 And that's scary.
00:39:07.980 And the truth is, though, a lot of it's, so much of it's out of my control anyway.
00:39:11.400 So much of it's out of my control.
00:39:23.560 Yeah, and I think it's turning that over, that if I can, if I can, and I'm not pestering myself,
00:39:30.220 but if I could get more comfortable with when that feeling comes up of like, okay, I need to do something.
00:39:38.000 I need to say something.
00:39:38.520 I need to, I need to ask somebody if they're hot or cold.
00:39:42.360 If I could be like, you know, I'll just, God's got this.
00:39:46.960 I'm just going to have faith that everything's okay.
00:39:48.860 I'm just going to have faith that everything's okay.
00:39:55.640 Yeah, if I could just lean into some more of those moments of just, I don't have to affect this.
00:40:02.860 Anyway, I'm talking about me, man.
00:40:04.520 Let me listen to your question again so I can try to talk about you.
00:40:09.080 And I'm sorry.
00:40:10.640 I'm sitting there talking about myself.
00:40:12.160 Like, everyone's supposed to be happy during Christmas, and I'm just sitting there trying to just pretend to be happy, but it's tough.
00:40:22.320 I don't know.
00:40:24.480 I got my birthday this month, too.
00:40:26.940 And like, everything is supposed to be good, but it's always just a rough time of year.
00:40:32.040 I was curious if you ever dealt with that or had any advice.
00:40:35.140 Appreciate you.
00:40:35.800 Yeah, I think it's an okay time to take a nap.
00:40:42.680 First, let me say that.
00:40:44.080 It's an okay time not to fight the wars that are out there.
00:40:47.160 It's an okay time not to hit some man or woman who's dressed up like an elf on a lime scooter or whatever who's been drinking.
00:40:55.100 It's an okay not to hit them with your car.
00:40:58.080 It's an okay time not to engage in too much of the crazy stuff.
00:41:01.740 I mean, this is a time of year when a lot of animals go hibernate.
00:41:05.800 You know, a lot of animals go hibernate.
00:41:08.500 Even the sun isn't even out that long.
00:41:11.260 So for us to be like, hey, it's kind of a lot.
00:41:15.520 It's kind of going against nature.
00:41:18.700 So I think it's okay to take some time for yourself and, like, not feel the overwhelming sense of I have to do everything.
00:41:26.460 Like, earlier today, I was like, oh, people are probably going to Christmas parties.
00:41:29.720 Nobody's invited me to any Christmas parties, right?
00:41:32.800 I was thinking of that.
00:41:33.760 And my mom invited me to a Christmas party at her house.
00:41:36.400 And my friend Bo invited me to a Christmas party with his family around Christmas.
00:41:40.300 But I hadn't gotten invited to anything like, you know, I'm home.
00:41:43.560 It's before Christmas, blah, blah, blah.
00:41:45.660 So – and that's okay.
00:41:47.540 But I need to just be like, hey, this is a great time for me to read, to work on, you know, my step work that I'm going through again, to enjoy some time with myself.
00:42:03.840 Not, you know, not to feel that FOMO, not to feel this overwhelming sense of, like, well, let me have a – let me control – let me, you know.
00:42:16.440 I wonder why I don't feel at peace very much because I don't let myself be at peace very much.
00:42:21.520 But for your instance – sorry.
00:42:24.460 I'm still fucking talking about me, dude.
00:42:27.400 Bro, stop.
00:42:31.500 But I think there's two sides to this.
00:42:32.920 I was talking to my friend Chris today, and he was saying he was feeling kind of down.
00:42:36.320 And I noticed this.
00:42:37.500 If I do those things, like, I can isolate during the holidays as well, and that's not good.
00:42:42.920 During Thanksgiving, I kind of showed up to my family, and I didn't have the best attitude.
00:42:47.460 And I knew in my head what was going on.
00:42:54.720 And there were moments I was able to work through it and show up and do okay.
00:42:59.240 I think I wanted to spend some alone time with my mom.
00:43:01.640 I didn't get that.
00:43:02.500 But – and so when things weren't going kind of exactly the way I wanted in my turn, you know, this side of me comes out that's –
00:43:11.340 you know what?
00:43:14.760 I'll cut myself off from people.
00:43:19.540 It'll be like, oh, things aren't kind of perfect here right now.
00:43:22.020 Then I'm not going to apply myself to this situation.
00:43:25.220 I'm going to cut my – like, my emotions, my feelings.
00:43:28.040 I'm going to kind of keep everything away from you, you know.
00:43:31.560 Things aren't exactly the way I want them.
00:43:33.620 I'm going to keep myself from you, right?
00:43:37.300 And really, I'm just hurting myself.
00:43:39.160 But also, I'm kind of – and I can be kind of like not helping the environment around me.
00:43:47.840 But that's been a thing of mine over the years, I realized, like, a way that I'll try to hurt somebody's feelings is I'll try to keep my –
00:43:58.400 I'll keep my – I'll keep my love away from them, which is kind of crazy to say out loud, I think.
00:44:05.280 And I don't know exactly what I mean by it, but I've noticed it at times.
00:44:10.960 Like, oh, this isn't kind of the way I want it.
00:44:12.940 Then you're not going to get any of me.
00:44:15.820 I can kind of know what I'm saying, but part of me doesn't know exactly what I'm saying.
00:44:26.600 But does that make any sense, Trevon, you think?
00:44:29.600 Yeah, it's just like you close off, you know.
00:44:33.160 Yeah, I'll close off.
00:44:34.120 And sometimes it's – there's only – I'll only be home for a certain amount of time or I'll only be around family a certain amount of time.
00:44:38.520 So there's not a ton of time for really us to have time together.
00:44:42.080 And even in those moments, it's like I'll – I'm going to shut down here, you know.
00:44:48.200 So, yeah, I can tend to kind of get that way.
00:44:50.660 But, brother, I think – yeah, don't expect too much out of the holidays.
00:44:54.060 Try not to put too much pressure on yourself.
00:44:56.860 But try to bring some joy to yourself.
00:44:59.100 Go do something that finds you some joy.
00:45:01.120 Do not isolate too much.
00:45:02.760 Because you also can bring joy to other people, you know.
00:45:06.760 That's the worst part about when I shut down is what I'm really missing out on.
00:45:11.740 It's not really me.
00:45:13.300 Like, it's just like if I show up in a good mood, I can help somebody else have a nice time, you know.
00:45:22.420 Maybe I can play with the baby or I can see my friend's dog or I can, you know, tell my sister she has a nice shirt or that she looks pretty.
00:45:29.140 Or, you know, I can do little things.
00:45:31.000 I can sit and play a game.
00:45:32.040 I can do something.
00:45:32.900 I can talk to someone else at the family get-together that I don't know.
00:45:36.000 It's like if I don't shut down, if I don't get in that selfish way, then I can do – I can just be a part of what is – of the best situation.
00:45:47.840 Not for me, but just what's the best possible outcome is that I just try to show up with a smile on my face.
00:45:54.480 How can I help?
00:45:55.220 And – but, yeah, sometimes you have to pretend to be happy, man.
00:46:03.260 Here's the thing.
00:46:03.900 You pretend to be happy, eventually you will be.
00:46:05.980 That's the craziest part.
00:46:06.960 You pretend to be happy, you will – eventually you will be.
00:46:11.140 Yeah, I think anything – if you do it, you will – like actions first.
00:46:19.860 People think you have to like think it first.
00:46:22.340 No.
00:46:22.540 So, you can't think yourself into right actions, but you can act yourself into right thinkings.
00:46:31.540 Can you look that up for me on perplexity, please?
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00:46:42.500 Yeah, many people can act themselves into good thinking because behavior often reshapes beliefs, emotions, and self-image over time.
00:46:49.900 So, yeah, I think it's like – yeah, you don't have to pretend that everybody's happy.
00:46:53.260 Maybe you're not the happiest guy.
00:46:54.900 You don't have to be Santa.
00:46:56.680 You could be one of his elves that smokes behind the woodshop.
00:46:59.340 You don't have to be the best guy.
00:47:01.740 You know, what about go watch Bad Santa?
00:47:03.480 Just do a gateway package into some sort of holiday vibes.
00:47:09.280 You know, watch Miracle on 34th Street, but then watch Nightmare on Elm Street.
00:47:14.440 You know what I'm saying?
00:47:15.000 Do both.
00:47:15.820 You can do – you know what I'm saying?
00:47:17.260 There's a mix of everything out there.
00:47:19.440 But I do believe that if you show up and you find a place to show up that feels kind of comfortable to you, to your birthday, whoever invites you over for your birthday or if somebody calls you,
00:47:30.600 if you try to show up with the best part to you, even if you have to pretend, that I think the best part to you will meet those pretendings halfway.
00:47:42.760 I believe that.
00:47:43.820 I don't know if that makes any sense.
00:47:45.040 But, yeah, I think you can act your way into feeling better.
00:47:48.240 But you don't have to, dude.
00:47:49.520 Yeah, Christmas gets on a lot of people's nerves, especially this time of year.
00:47:52.700 It's hectic.
00:47:53.060 There's so many things to do.
00:47:55.540 So don't be hard on yourself.
00:47:57.700 Don't over-isolate.
00:47:59.140 It's a balance.
00:48:00.260 I think everything is.
00:48:03.180 But, yeah, I appreciate you calling, dude.
00:48:05.000 I appreciate you – because, yeah, it's like, fuck, sometimes we all have to pretend to be happy.
00:48:11.780 But I think that's a lot of things.
00:48:14.880 You know, I have friends in marriages that tell me, it's like, dude, every day you wake up, you don't want to be married.
00:48:20.100 But on some of those days, you just pretend that you want to be married, you know?
00:48:25.760 And then you get to the days where you do want to be.
00:48:27.860 So I don't know.
00:48:28.680 I know I've just rambled a lot about me, and I didn't help you at all.
00:48:31.740 Not that I was trying to help you or that.
00:48:33.200 I don't know shit.
00:48:34.540 Look at me.
00:48:35.960 But, fuck, dude.
00:48:38.060 What are we going to do about America?
00:48:39.380 That's a big question, you know?
00:48:41.940 But blessings to you, dude.
00:48:43.200 Happy holidays.
00:48:44.660 And, yeah, thanks for just being here and letting me think with the outlet.
00:48:49.480 Love you, brother.
00:48:51.760 And I'm going to send you a birthday present.
00:48:54.700 So we'll reach out and send you a birthday present.
00:48:57.800 And, yeah.
00:49:03.440 Yeah, and I hope if you don't join a bunch of other people and feel great there, that we can find ways to feel great with ourselves.
00:49:09.940 Good enough.
00:49:11.060 You know?
00:49:11.700 That's the even crazier trick.
00:49:13.400 It's like because sometimes I'm using going out to see people and do things just to get away from myself, which is crazy, just to get away from those moments where it's me and me standing there in the living room of my head.
00:49:28.440 But, um...
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00:50:05.680 The holidays are a time of traditions.
00:50:08.980 Some people have many in their family and some have none or they're just beginning their own.
00:50:14.740 Now's the time to reflect on what they mean to you or to rewrite those traditions and make them your own.
00:50:20.740 Incorporating therapy into your new or existing traditions can help ensure you take time for yourself during what can be a very joyful but sometimes hectic and lonely time of year.
00:50:34.120 One tradition we have in my family is verbal altercations and leaving family events early and crying in our vehicles.
00:50:44.020 That's something we like to do.
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00:51:18.580 What's another call?
00:51:20.920 You want to pick one off here, Trevin, that you like?
00:51:22.720 There's a couple on – we get a list usually of calls here and so –
00:51:27.580 What about a follow-up on twins, advice for twins from the Baby Me episode?
00:51:33.700 Oh, that's a great call.
00:51:35.000 That's a great call.
00:51:35.840 Good call.
00:51:36.280 Well, yeah, that's a great idea because we just had somebody call in who was having twins, and I don't believe in them.
00:51:42.820 But this person has some twin advice.
00:51:46.960 Here we go.
00:51:48.200 Yeah, my name is Michael from Indianapolis.
00:51:50.180 I'm calling in hopes to respond to Cage.
00:51:52.080 He called in on your last solo episode about having twins and needing some advice.
00:51:55.340 And I guess – no, you know, this can go to Cage and Riley now.
00:52:03.480 Congratulations to all y'all, man.
00:52:06.080 Kids are rough, man.
00:52:07.340 They're the best hell that you could ever willingly put yourself through.
00:52:11.020 Wow, the best hell you could willingly put yourself through.
00:52:15.080 That's a beautiful statement.
00:52:16.380 Let's hear more.
00:52:17.100 Thank you so much.
00:52:18.720 And I mean that.
00:52:19.520 They're also the most rewarding thing that you could ever do.
00:52:24.580 And you just got to – if I could ever give anybody some advice, man, it is just that you got to take care of yourself.
00:52:30.600 The lady has to take care of herself.
00:52:32.840 You guys got to take care of each other.
00:52:34.540 Can't pour from an iffy cut.
00:52:35.680 So if you don't take care of yourself, you can't take care of her.
00:52:38.300 If she doesn't take care of herself, she can't take care of you.
00:52:40.320 If you don't take care of yourselves, you can't take care of each other.
00:52:42.660 In turn, you can't take care of your kids.
00:52:44.880 But I am serious.
00:52:46.380 You guys have to take care of yourselves.
00:52:47.780 That's the main thing, man.
00:52:48.840 You got to take some adult time.
00:52:50.780 Be there.
00:52:51.200 Be a dad.
00:52:51.780 Be a mom.
00:52:52.780 Be active.
00:52:53.480 Be present.
00:52:54.780 But, man, if you got parents that won't mind, you know, watching the kid overnight one time, take advantage of that, man.
00:53:01.880 Go party.
00:53:02.440 Go make some crazy decisions.
00:53:03.660 As long as you can go to work Monday, clock in, and be a dad again, then, man, take care of yourselves, man.
00:53:09.320 That's my biggest advice.
00:53:12.020 Amen.
00:53:13.540 Yeah, that's true.
00:53:14.460 So now we're like, yeah, how much – how can I do all these things?
00:53:16.780 And I'm – yeah.
00:53:19.240 I'll show up, you know, I'll show up to fix a car with no tools because I ain't take care of my own shit.
00:53:26.200 I'm over there pretending, just making a – using my hand, just making a wrench noise while I use it.
00:53:31.620 Take care of yourself first, and you can take care of those twins.
00:53:37.060 I love that.
00:53:39.640 Here's another one right here.
00:53:42.440 Let's see what came in.
00:53:44.040 Hey, Theo.
00:53:48.200 This is Cody from Florida.
00:53:52.300 Hey, Cody.
00:53:53.180 Thanks for calling, brother.
00:53:54.200 How are you today?
00:53:55.400 Onward.
00:53:55.720 And I just heard you – you're big on the topics with having a porn addiction and being an alcoholic.
00:54:07.600 I know you did that 12-step program.
00:54:10.280 And honestly, man, those two things are the biggest problems of my life.
00:54:14.960 I just had my girlfriend over a year break up with me because of a porn addiction, which that is just so embarrassing.
00:54:24.360 I can't even, like, think of myself, like, as a normal person anymore.
00:54:30.160 I think – I feel so embarrassed.
00:54:32.420 I just – I feel such like a weak man.
00:54:37.320 And the alcohol problem, man, I – I want to know what you did to help yourself with both of those addictions, mainly the porn addiction, to be honest.
00:54:52.440 And that's just – that's so embarrassing to say, but –
00:54:56.760 Hey, brother.
00:54:57.380 Thanks for ringing us up here.
00:55:00.480 And, yeah, the only things I know that have helped me with any type of addiction are 12-step recovery programs.
00:55:11.200 I know some people use different programs or different things.
00:55:14.440 People have used rehab, detox.
00:55:16.460 I know that some people need those sorts of things.
00:55:19.680 I haven't used – I've used, like, some short-term rehab.
00:55:24.320 I have not had to use long-term rehab or detox in my life yet.
00:55:33.420 And, yeah, those are the things that I know.
00:55:36.900 There's SLAA meetings, sex and love addiction online that you can find that you can just attend on Zoom.
00:55:43.360 They're great places to start.
00:55:44.960 And local AA meetings.
00:55:46.560 And I would go to three meetings, three different ones, until you see what you think about it.
00:55:51.640 But those programs I know work.
00:55:54.180 There's no lifelong cure.
00:55:56.720 It's a daily – it's a daily reprieve.
00:56:00.900 And it works if you work it.
00:56:04.540 I believe those things.
00:56:06.060 And it will get better.
00:56:08.780 It will get better if you go and work on it.
00:56:15.960 You know, yeah, nothing changes if nothing changes.
00:56:20.040 We've talked about that before.
00:56:21.280 And that's the truth.
00:56:26.140 I've thought things would change in my life if they – I'll just grow out of it.
00:56:29.540 This will happen or this person will come along.
00:56:31.700 I'll move somewhere in this.
00:56:33.500 No, it's – it doesn't – more often than not, none of those things help.
00:56:40.860 I'm not saying never.
00:56:43.260 For me.
00:56:44.780 For me.
00:56:45.220 Yeah, but I'm sorry that you're dealing with that loss.
00:56:50.320 But also, in a way, I'm glad that you are realizing this and you can get a hold of it now.
00:56:54.320 Because there's no time like the present, man.
00:56:56.080 And what a great gift to ourselves to try and take care of ourselves better.
00:57:00.460 So, amen to you, brother.
00:57:01.660 I love you.
00:57:02.880 And, yeah, thanks for calling and letting us think about that.
00:57:08.740 Let's do this call right here.
00:57:10.500 It might be time to get on out of here.
00:57:12.060 And I know this episode – maybe it was a little bit heavy.
00:57:15.640 Was this episode too heavy, Trevin?
00:57:17.500 I don't think so.
00:57:18.880 We got there.
00:57:20.000 Okay.
00:57:21.260 Yeah.
00:57:22.080 My nervous system is getting a little bit burnt out.
00:57:27.240 So, here we go.
00:57:30.700 Hi, Theo.
00:57:31.780 I'm calling from Ohio.
00:57:33.380 And I just want to let you know I have reached one year sober.
00:57:37.680 It has been the worst ride possible.
00:57:41.400 But I finally did it.
00:57:44.080 And I'm just calling to let you know you and you have been a huge part of my journey in every way possible.
00:57:52.180 I remember being just fucked up on drugs and alcohol watching your show.
00:57:57.660 And now I watch your show sober without fucking drugs and alcohol.
00:58:03.420 And I still laugh like I used to.
00:58:06.120 It is the best thing ever.
00:58:07.900 So, I just wanted to say thank you.
00:58:10.700 And if you have any advice for the other people that are trying to get sober, you know, just spread the love and keep going.
00:58:19.480 Thank you, Theo.
00:58:20.640 Bye.
00:58:21.780 Amen.
00:58:22.700 Congratulations.
00:58:23.260 That's awesome.
00:58:24.200 Thanks so much for sharing that message, you know.
00:58:25.980 Yeah, and I feel lucky to be part of a podcast that we're able to even talk about that kind of stuff.
00:58:35.480 Or that you're able to call in and share that message.
00:58:38.380 And congratulations.
00:58:39.340 One year, that's crazy.
00:58:41.980 That's beautiful.
00:58:43.760 And shit, your voice was so loud in the beginning.
00:58:47.520 Hi, Theo.
00:58:48.640 It almost got on my damn nerves.
00:58:50.420 I thought how crazy it was.
00:58:52.560 I'm like, dang, she's doing so good.
00:58:54.660 And she's lit up, lit up by the Lord and the feelings of self-worth.
00:59:03.780 And so, that's a beautiful – that is beautiful to hear around this time of year and any time.
00:59:11.140 Man, you hear somebody feel proud of themselves.
00:59:15.480 That's beautiful.
00:59:16.180 And I'm glad that this show could just be a part of something.
00:59:18.900 And that's one of the things that makes me so lucky.
00:59:20.720 Like, just like – even just being a part of this show, it's like, what could God use us to do if we put ourselves in the best situation?
00:59:29.080 And, you know, and can I meet God halfway?
00:59:35.320 And I know we've talked about that a little bit before.
00:59:42.960 And not that God isn't all the way.
00:59:44.440 I know he's all the way there.
00:59:45.300 It's – but I'm just saying, like, yeah, just the beauty of what God can use all of us for if we make ourselves an available tool, you know, kind of.
00:59:57.880 So – but, man, what a time of year to – I know this was a lot of thinking about me this episode.
01:00:05.400 I'm sorry about that.
01:00:06.180 But look at that guy on that shirt, that little rickshaw donkey right there, that little fucking lesbian schoolteacher.
01:00:17.280 I love him, baby.
01:00:19.620 Ah.
01:00:21.700 Yeah.
01:00:24.360 Yeah, we got – we're here, you know.
01:00:26.900 We're here.
01:00:28.580 We're alive.
01:00:29.860 We got a shot.
01:00:32.100 We got a shot.
01:00:33.660 We can figure it out.
01:00:35.020 We can't do it alone.
01:00:38.780 And, yeah, and what did I start talking about?
01:00:42.520 What things do we want to – if I wanted to yell something, if I wanted to just say something to the heavens, maybe that's it, you know.
01:00:48.200 Just like, man, what could I be used for, you know, if I can, you know, just let me be – I don't know.
01:00:59.200 What could I be used for if I –
01:01:05.020 and maybe it's just if I just ask God, you know.
01:01:08.500 You know, and that's one of the morning prayers that is part of my routine right now is just asking God to use me and build with me as thou wilt.
01:01:19.980 But, yeah, there's so much out there, you know.
01:01:31.100 There's so much out there.
01:01:33.520 Anyway, I don't know if I've – did we cover everything you think, Trevin?
01:01:37.080 Are we okay?
01:01:38.120 Yeah, we're good.
01:01:39.480 Okay, man.
01:01:40.100 Thank you so much for your help this year, Trevin.
01:01:44.220 Anytime.
01:01:45.440 And, yeah, we do our best.
01:01:50.120 We're trying.
01:01:50.820 It's just another day, right?
01:01:52.460 We don't have to save the world today.
01:01:56.560 That feels good.
01:01:57.580 Doesn't it feel good to know that?
01:01:58.620 Okay, who knows?
01:02:04.260 I love you guys.
01:02:05.080 Thanks for being a part of the podcast today.
01:02:07.360 Thanks for your calls.
01:02:08.020 As always, the hotline, 985-664-9503.
01:02:11.620 Congratulations to the young lady getting a year sober, to the guy whose birthday is coming up.
01:02:16.080 We love you, bro.
01:02:16.860 Enjoy your holidays.
01:02:18.100 Make them enjoyable for you somehow.
01:02:19.760 It is – in the end, it's somewhat our responsibility to find joy.
01:02:24.780 Okay, anyway, I'm getting chatty.
01:02:26.620 Love you guys.
01:02:27.240 You guys be good to yourselves.
01:02:29.980 You deserve it.
01:02:30.860 Thank you so much for helping with the Jersey auction.
01:02:33.060 We raised almost $40,000 to go to the Cumberland Heights Recovery Center.
01:02:39.140 It's going to help subsidize recovery for individuals over there and for the show with Mike Rowe where we're helping people buy stuff from their fellow Americans.
01:02:52.880 Anyway, whatever.
01:02:54.220 All right.
01:02:54.780 You guys have a wonderful one.
01:02:55.760 And love you guys.
01:02:58.760 And yeah, talk to you later.
01:03:01.020 Bye.
01:03:01.160 Now, I'm just falling on the breeze and I feel I'm falling like these leaves.
01:03:07.080 I must be cornerstone.
01:03:12.160 Oh, but when I reach that ground, I'll share this peace of mind I found.
01:03:17.700 I can feel it in my bones.
01:03:23.160 But it's going to take.
01:03:27.640 I'm strong.