#634 - Fiona Cauley
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2 hours and 11 minutes
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167.72098
Summary
Comedian and podcaster Fiona Cawley joins Jemele to talk about growing up with an ailment, growing up in a wheelchair, and growing up as the middle child in a family with a rare genetic disease called Friedrich's Ataxia.
Transcript
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Today's guest is a comedian and a podcaster. You may know her from her appearances on Kill Tony.
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She has her own podcast called Rampin' Up, and I'm thankful that she's here today.
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Shine on me, and I will find a song I've been singing.
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Oh, thanks. Yeah, I feel lucky to have a place to live.
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I gotta get, I think, a new couch or something. How many times after you sit on a couch, you
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have to get a new one? That's a thing. They should put, like, a little counter on the side
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Like, oh, you're out, and it catapults you out.
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Yeah, that's what we need now. It's like, yeah, how many sits does it take to get to
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You're what some people would consider a heavy sitter, huh?
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For some of our listeners that don't know, so you have, you live with an ailment. What
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do people, do people call it a disease, an ailment, just because you're already talking
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Yeah, it's a disease, a disability. It's called Friedrich's ataxia.
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Yeah, what is it? Is it okay to ask you about it?
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Yeah, yeah. So it's like a really rare neurological disease, and it's progressive. And there are like
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5,000 people in the U.S. that have it, and I'm one of them. And the only difference between
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us, the reason you can walk and I can't, is I don't make enough of a protein called
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frataxin. And that's kind of it. Like, both my parents were carriers, didn't know, and then
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And do, duh. And so are you the only child that has it?
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So if two parents have it, and they have a child, any child they have can have it?
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Can, yeah. But also, they might not, some of them. But I'm one of three. I'm the middle
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and we all have it. I got diagnosed first, so they can suck it, you know.
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Did you feel like they were copying off you at any point?
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I mean, I'm the middle child. So it's like, I can't have anything to myself. My sister's
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Because I noticed, I noticed my nephews at Thanksgiving were dressing the same as each
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other, but they're like two years apart. And I was like, oh, it kind of makes sense. The
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Yeah. Well, imagine if your siblings got the same car as you. It's the same thing.
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Do you have to have a cane? How do you, because you have a wheelchair.
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Well, good question. I mean, it's progressive. So I used to be an athlete before I knew. And
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then I walked weird, kind of like I'm drunk. I spoke, still do speak that way because your
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tongue's a muscle. And then I went into a cane phase when I was 21 because they wouldn't
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serve me at bars. And I was like, I got to find a way to like show them. It's like, I'm
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Did a lot of brothers hit on you when you had that cane?
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Honestly, I would go to bars, not bring the cane. And if a guy hit on me, I was like, that's
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a bad person because I look like the drunkest person in this place. Right? It was a litmus
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You're just reporting people. At one point, did you and your sisters have canes? Because
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that's almost like a black prom, I feel like, if you guys had that.
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I have one that was like a sword cane. You unscrew the top and a sword came out.
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Really? Oh, that's the one you definitely needed, probably an Irish bar.
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Yeah, I took it on every date just in case. You know, I don't fuck with pepper spray, just
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Oh, that's, dude, that's the British pepper spray. The sword cane, that's exactly what
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there, that's exactly the wildest thing there is. That's unbelievable. Fiona Cawley, thanks
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Thanks for stopping by. I appreciate it. We got to do a show together not long ago that
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was at the lab and that was really awesome. And I saw you were going to be on the Kill
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Tony, are you on the Kill Tony, the live from Texas? What's it called?
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Once Upon a Time in Texas, yeah. The one that just came on Netflix.
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Oh. How crazy is that to see yourself on like, kind of like, because stuff like this, I think
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is kind of, it's not monumental, but it's interesting in a comic's career when they see themselves
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on like a Netflix poster or something that gives us some semblance of what we deem as,
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a lot of us deem as success. Was that interesting for you?
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Yeah. I mean, I'm grateful he put me on the poster, you know what I mean? But yeah, I
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mean, being on Netflix, this is actually the second time with Kill Tony I've been on the
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Yeah. The other one was at Madison Square Garden.
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Dude, that's wild. And they kind of, and they hid your legs too, which is, are they?
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Which was nice in them. It grows with people out. They don't want to see this.
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Oh, I bet a lot of dudes. I know some dudes who would. For sure. And also, you think they
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could have had you sitting on his shoulder or something would have been pretty dope.
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Okay. And was Kill, did Kill Tony feel like a big break for you? Like, what does that feel
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Yeah, I would say so. I was, you know, I live in Nashville, so I was really just working
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zanies. And I was starting to feature and whatever. And then I heard about Kill Tony
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and people were like, you should go on that. And I was like, okay. So it changed my life
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Like fully, you know, from like 30,000 followers. And now I have like more than half a million.
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Wow. Dude, kudos to Tony and Red Band just for making that thing stick and thrive. And the
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years they went through it at the comedy store where there were times when it was big and
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times where it was kind of like in between buildings and like they were switching it around.
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Even when they got to Austin, I think they went to three different places and they kept
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that thing alive. That's unbelievable. Um, was your first time there, what's it like when
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your first time there, did you know you were going to get up or was it?
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Yeah. So he basically what happened was, I didn't know what Kill Tony was. I heard about
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Yeah. Cause you're already, you know, you're already having health problems. Kill Tony sounds
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it's like, I'm like, I'll stay away from that word. Yeah. It's like, I'm not seeing another
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Okay. I thought you did. That's the only reason why I'm joking.
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Um, um, so you go there and for people that don't know, most of, most of our listeners
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know, but Kill Tony, it's a, uh, it's a show that's run, uh, by Tony Hinchcliffe and Brian
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Redman. And they basically bring in kind of newcomers. It's kind of the new tonight show
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in a lot of ways. And they have a regular guests on there. And, um, and a lot of people go
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on there and get their first minute. It's kind of their first minute that's in front of the
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Kill Tony crowd. And sometimes those minutes are amazing. And sometimes those minutes are
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very nerve wracking. Um, I think they're probably nerve wracking no matter what, but yeah,
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take me through that minute. Like what's that first minute on Kill Tony? What, what is it?
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What is that like? Especially for somebody that's had five years in comedy. Like, cause
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you, you know, it's not some of these people that it's their first time ever getting on
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stage and some people are just hiding from their wives or something. Some people are just
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hiding from ice for a minute. They're like, this is one minute away from ice, right?
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They won't find me here. Um, but yeah, can you kind of take us through that?
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Yeah. So it's very, it's stressful cause it's not, you, you realize it's not just the room
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you're in that's going to see it. It's not just a 300 people. The platform is so big. So
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you're like, everything I do right now is going to be seen by millions of people. And like,
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you're stressed, you know? And also the whole thing is like the panel gets to be mean to
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It feels that the arena shows for Kill Tony feels so Roman. I say that all the time.
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And every time I go out in an arena show with them, I swear the person right before me
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gets booed by the entire arena. And then I'm like, Oh my God.
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That's kind of nice because then if somebody else has taken that L, then you're like,
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Before you went on the first time, are you just, are you like waiting in the wings? What's,
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Um, so I, cause I'm in a wheelchair, I have to like go around the building and get carried
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Yeah. Yeah. It smells real bad. And, but it reminds you of your life, you know?
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And then yeah, they have you waiting back there. You smell like trash. You're looking
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at Heidi, the best looking woman I've ever seen in real life.
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Yeah. I have, you know, the beautiful blonde Heidi member.
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Oh wow. She looks like Gina Davis. And she's got strong cheekbones. She looks like Gene
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Davis too. Who used to play catcher for us when I was growing up, actually. Great kid,
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No, she's stunning. I'm just joking. I'm sure she's on Kill Tony. She can take a couple
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Oh yeah. She, she's very funny. Dakes jokes very well. Very smart.
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No. Uh, well, it is funny that, yeah, you show a cute girl.
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I gotta get back out there. It's like, you could show a picture of the North Pole and
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guys are like, that looks cold. I ain't doing that shit. And then you show a guy and you
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show just like a silhouette of some tits on the edge of a glacier. And some guy's like,
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man, we gotta get back. I gotta get back up there.
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And so as you're going along, like, dude, I cannot imagine how overwhelming that feels.
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It reminds me of, um, I did a late night set one time for Craig, Craig Ferguson. Yeah. And
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it never aired because I think it was too edgy or something they said. And I was heartbroken,
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dude. I was like, Oh, I'd worked so hard and put the set together. Um, but that was nerve
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wracking. That was like one of the most nerve wracking moments. Cause you kind of know what
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you want to do, but you haven't been in this instance where like there's like, for me,
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there was like a lot of heat would build up around my neck and you're, you want to make
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sure your words get out clearly. Uh, that was, that was, that was super frustrating for me.
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I know you did a late night set. Did you do Fallon? Yeah. Which one? Uh, congratulations by
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the way. Was there any different feeling between those two things or did one feel easier? I think
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Fallon felt easier because he's not there to be mean to me. That's a good point. But he's not
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hiding your wheelchair while you're up there. Like Redman will sell it on Etsy. Redman just
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sell my seat cushion on it. No, that's hilarious. And he would too. That guy, dude, shout out
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Redman who people are like, well, what does he look like? You're like, let's say sniff a seat
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cushion. Does that tell you? But very successful. Yeah. Sniffs seat cushions for fun. Yeah. For
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fun. That's true. For fun. I don't, yeah. I don't think he wouldn't maybe do it for profit. No,
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he doesn't need to. That's a good point. Yeah. He's making good money. Dude, there you are
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right there. Yeah. And they let me plug the, the foundation to raise money for my disease.
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And that was cool. What do you notice the differences between like doing a set on a,
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on Kill Tony and a set on Fallon? Because that's not a lot of people have probably had that exact
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experience. Like the way, like for me or the way it exists in the world. Just kind of the way it
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exists in the world. Yeah. Um, I think Fallon impressed my like grandparents, which finally they're
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like, Oh, she is a comedian. You know what I mean? That's true. Yeah. So that was like something,
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my mom can send to people and be like, look at my daughter. But with Kill Tony, they definitely
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have a bigger reach now. You know, late night is not the same, I think. Yeah. Cause I think
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people just, less people have cable. People are more tuned into their phones. Right. Kill Tony
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is definitely more divisive. Yeah. You know? And so people make a lot of assumptions about me
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through that. There was, I don't know. Yeah. It's more divisive. He almost sunk Puerto Rico. Remember
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that? That was crazy. That was crazy, dude. And then they probably would have got sued. They
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would have lost the show. They would have changed the name to Kill Puerto Rico, probably.
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Which would have been a lot, I feel like. Yeah, a lot of people can't spell Puerto Rico.
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Yeah. But there is this thing though, where it's like, uh, yeah, you do a certain thing
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and people can see that and that appeases them. That's kind of an interesting thing as a comedian.
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I think it's kind of an interesting thing almost in anybody's walk of life with work because
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you're like, oh, if I do this, then my dad, he'll understand that, that to him equals success
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or to my grandparents, that to them equals success. Right. And it's different for everyone,
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but it, it's like this. I feel like part of being a comedian is being like, but there's
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always going to be that one person that doesn't believe I'm doing anything real and I have to
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prove it. Uh, that's just me. Yeah. I wonder if there's always like somebody in the back of a
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comedian's head that like fuels them. Right. They're like one day I'll get that person or
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I bet there probably is. I bet there probably is for everybody. I bet it, it would be pretty
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fascinating to learn like what really fuels like some of the ways that we operate and the choices
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that we make. Cause it could be like one or two people that said something when you were young
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or one person's look that gave you a certain feeling and you're like, and it just ignited this
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thing inside of you. The words of when you hold onto those two words that looked and they're like,
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I don't remember that. You're like that dictated my future. Yeah. You're like, I'd still be,
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I would have kept walking. Yeah. I stopped walking because of that.
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Yeah. That's crazy. Um, Oh dude, did you see that? What did I see the other day? Oh,
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they have an autistic Barbie. Now did you see that? I did see that. Do people send a lot of that
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stuff to you? Like, Hey, wheelchair Barbie or just like, what do we think of this? Like
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if there's some sort of like, I'm like the voice of reason for any disability. Yeah. You're like
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the, um, what's that? You're like the, the show where the chairs turn around. What is that?
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Oh, you're like the voice. Yeah. You're like the voice for, uh, for disabilities and stuff.
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People are like, Hey, is this not pushing my button? Yeah. Oh, autistic Barbie. That
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bitch ain't getting shit. I'm like, I put headphones on her. Cool. But those aren't
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headphones. I think those are just noise canceling earmuffs. Oh yeah. Yeah. I think, I think
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those are just those things that help autistic people kind of operate. They used to do earmuffs
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so now they kind of made them fancy or something. Yeah. Made them fashion. Mattel is introducing
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an autistic Barbie as the newest member of its line intended to celebrate diversity developed
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in partnership with a nonprofit organization that advocates for the rights and better media
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representation of people with autism. I think I find that kind of weird though, because autism
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isn't visible generally. It's like how you, it's how you function and it's a Barbie. So
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couldn't any Barbie be autistic? First of all, I've met a lot of Barbies in the world and
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these bitches are missing something. That's true. Okay. A lot of these bitches are picking
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up odd signals. You know, a lot of times from like a Hermes or something, they're like, Oh,
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I just got a update from an Hermes somewhere or something, which is like a fancy shot.
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Okay. I'm like, I show up on Amazon. I'm sorry. Yeah. Sorry. Yeah. That was maybe a bad
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reference. Um, why is she Hispanic? And is there Hispanic autism? Look it up. Who's got
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the most autism? Feels like a white people sport. Yeah. Well, white people will create any new
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sport to try and like, like keep away from having to compete against black folks. Yeah. Anything.
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we can do. Yeah. It's like, Oh, my disease is only white people. Your disease is only white
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people. Let's go. I like that. And we barely landed that fist bump. Uh, but let's go.
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Yeah. Oh, sorry, Barbie. Yeah. They should have, they should, dude, you should have a Barbie. That'd
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be so great. Fiona Barbie based on the most recent data from the centers for disease control and
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prevention published in April, 2025, Asian Pacific Islander children and American Indian Alaskan
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native children had the highest reported prevalence of autism. So Asians, but they were going to have it
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do you can like a lot of Asians that I knew and that have been known over the years by
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people. It seems like a lot more is going on inside than outside. And I feel like if
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you get, you put too much traffic on those inner streets, you're going to end up bumper
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to bumper in there. And that's, I feel like we're autism really shows up. And that's not
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a scientific definition of autism, but a lot of Asian people, you just want to go up to
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them and be like, what are you doing in there? You know, especially in my generation, because
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they were very quiet. You would rarely get a word out of an, out of a, um, Asian guy.
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We had one, we didn't have, well, we almost had one. We had, yeah, dude, there was a rumor
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that there was an Asian guy. Well, here's what happened. There was a rumor that there was
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an Asian guy in this town near, near us called Slidell, Louisiana. And it was like 17 miles
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away. So me and my buddy Scotty and some other guys, we cut grass for like three weeks and
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saved up money to go see this guy. Right. Because dude, we don't know when we're getting, yeah,
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we don't know when we're getting another one, dude. And so we get over there and here's what
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had happened. A pizza hut. Remember they had those unique rooftops had burned down to the
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ground. And people had started saying that an Asian person was living in there. It was
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like just a myth or whatever. Bring up that pizza roof, bring up pizza, pizza hut, red roof,
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that one. So imagine that completely down on the ground. Now imagine you don't know a lot
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of information. Okay. Now imagine somebody tells you there's an Asian living in there.
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Uh-huh. You got me. I'm with you. And that's what happened. That word traveled us and we
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went over there and all it was, was a burned down pizza hut. But that's something that happened.
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It's like, you never know what can happen. If there's fire, if there's foul play.
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What did you think was going to happen if you found an Asian person in the hut?
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We didn't know there would be a hut. We thought it would be like a place of living. We thought
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it would be a, I don't know, a lean to, whatever. And we had no idea what an Asian lives in or
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whatever, an egg. You know what I'm saying? We had no idea of what it could be. We just
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knew if we get there, we'll see them. And, uh, and we didn't. Fool's gold or fool's yellow.
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Um, but dude, I wonder what the Barbies, like, I wonder if the Barbies are low-key like the
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Simpsons where over the years they've slowly been predicting the future, like, cause they
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Yeah, everyone sends me that. But I want electrical.
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And what do they say? Do you want this for Christmas or whatever? That's crazy.
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I mean, it's been going on since before I was a comedian. Like, random people would send
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Yeah, I'm like, thank you. Thank you. My hands don't work. I can't look at them. Oh,
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I guess you could, I mean, look at the, I mean, look at the group up there and the black
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girl does her hair like that to keep it out of the wheels or whatever. It's like, what
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are we? This is great, right? It's great stuff. But some of this stuff, I just wonder, are
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they, I guess it's just all about inclusion. There are a lot of people that are facing different,
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like disabilities or handicaps. Do you say handicaps? What do you, what do you, what do you, what's
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So I actually recently learned it's, it's person by person. All people feel different.
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But for me, I prefer like disability, disabled. I think handicaps, it's like a, like a thing,
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like a handicap parking spot or stall, you know?
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Yeah, or handicap placard, like that thing that people hang.
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Right. Like it's like an item, but I'm a person with a disability.
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with code Theo at liquidiv.com. What are some of the things that people don't realize? And I'm sorry,
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if some of this is just like general questions, you probably get all the time. What are some things
00:27:28.920
that people don't realize about dealing with a disability or having an affliction that people
00:27:35.980
kind of take for granted that's like super easy? And then what are some things that are kind of nice
00:27:39.500
about it? Because I was at a parade not long ago and I was, and this is fucked up. And I was like,
00:27:46.560
God, I, if I were in a wheelchair, I could sit down right now. And I totally thought of that because
00:27:53.160
I've been standing for like four hours and I was like, oh, and my friend lost his dog at a parade.
00:27:58.400
And dude, this is the worst thing. He lost it and it ran into like a gay section of the parade,
00:28:02.940
right? Like along the parade route. So we're walking up and I'm like, oh man, like I love gay
00:28:08.920
people, you know, but I love them at a, um, you know, I don't want to be in there loving him or
00:28:12.960
whatever, end up getting coked out or whatever. So, but when that talk ran into there, I'm like,
00:28:17.980
dude, we cannot go. Like most of the people were shirtless and just like be like everybody's on
00:28:23.340
ecstasy. Right. And I'm with my buddy and he's like, dude, we have to fucking find him. He's like,
00:28:29.020
he's fucking lost in here. And his dog's name, this is the worst part of his name, Benjamin. Right.
00:28:32.140
So he's like his bed, Benjamin. He's just yelling Benjamin in this gay rave, dude. And my buddy's
00:28:39.020
kind of like a handsome guy, dude. And he's like, whistling. Benjamin. And even sometimes even just
00:28:53.380
the men part, some people wouldn't turn at the Benja, but at the men, they would just flip around.
00:28:58.040
Oh, that was a nightmare, bro. And he lost his dog for like a week. And then somebody brought it
00:29:04.040
back. Oh my God. That was a blessing. The dog came back gay.
00:29:10.460
The dog's like, he had, like he hit his bone. He hit like half of it's poking out of his butt.
00:29:16.200
He's like, you'll never guess where I hit that thing.
00:29:24.920
That's very funny. Dogs can absolutely show same sex, sexual and bonding behaviors, but scientists
00:29:30.880
are cautious about calling that being gay in the human identity scene. I think that makes sense.
00:29:36.820
Some dogs will mildly hump another dog, but it's almost just like two guys at the gym that keep
00:29:40.880
high-fiving or because they don't know how to express themselves verbally.
00:29:54.160
I could see that. Because I guess it's dominant
00:30:15.960
But does that make, like, have you ever had so much you're just like, I'm out of here.
00:30:30.200
She said, I like Kool-Aid man myself out of the room.
00:30:37.180
Why did all those cartoons just break down walls
00:31:01.660
Friedrich's Ataxia came along, what were some of the
00:44:32.360
I'm kind of just like pushed up against the side of the car
00:45:59.820
and she's talking about how the liberals are trying to take her guns.
00:46:08.140
I think everyone's trying to take your guns though.
00:46:22.040
and we're on the interstate and she is ranting about the gun thing,
00:47:06.200
I'm like not looking at her cause I'm crying a little bit.
00:47:45.640
I'm not looking at her cause I don't want her to say I'm panicking.
00:47:56.480
did she know that you couldn't feel it if she poked you in the legs?
00:49:05.880
If you're an Uber driver or somebody that works in like,
00:49:15.740
that's like right turn in seven seconds that I will never tip somebody.
00:49:25.480
The worst is when they ask what music you want to listen to,
00:50:03.460
there's like a group text for the show I'm headed to.
00:50:21.620
And then there was one girl in the group text that I didn't know at the time.
00:50:44.900
my wheelchair is in the backseat and I'm wearing shoes like these with heels.
00:51:37.060
I jump out of the car and pull my own wheelchair out.
00:52:44.280
And so I go to the bar at third ghost and this married couple who I had met at the airport in Las Vegas a couple months back were there.
00:53:01.960
I told them cause they were the only ones I knew kind of.
00:53:21.600
You were basically the Elizabeth smart of comedy that night.
00:53:29.760
after being held hostage in what kind of car was it?
00:53:38.980
people have given birth in those more than any other vehicle in the past 10 years in this country.
00:54:11.680
So I do this show afterwards cause I had told them about that.
00:54:44.980
And I get carried upstairs to a VIP area by some security guy.
00:55:29.940
It might've been Jelly Roll doing one of those booty bootcamp classes or whatever.
00:55:34.480
He does some of those halfway house booty bootcamp classes,
00:55:45.860
someone's just giving me a new drink every time mine's gone.
00:55:57.640
I realized there's one guy everyone's like trying to talk to.
00:56:56.360
And the wife keeps trying to like get on my lap.
00:57:33.260
And there is one guy that was at the third ghost show that was tagging along for some
00:58:11.720
But he would every now and then he would have a couple of drinks and he would take us
00:58:15.720
He never wanted us to see his craft or whatever.
00:58:18.740
So he wouldn't invite us to any of his performances or whatever.
00:58:22.840
But every now and then he'd get drunk and he'd take us outside and he would jump sideways
00:58:31.960
It's just some mixed guy that I shared an apartment with for a month.
00:58:48.240
when they have like a car in the living room or they have motorcycles.
00:59:20.780
And there was like a video of him feeding it to me.
00:59:24.480
And then he put his number in my phone and then I had the ballerina drive me home.
00:59:33.300
And then the next morning I wake up to like 60 missed phone calls from my friends being like,
00:59:41.080
Because apparently I was all over this guy's Instagram story and stuff.
01:00:42.280
Mostly it was against like rich people or whatever.
01:01:04.560
Because a lot of times people would forget to get it out to the curb or sometimes people
01:01:09.500
So people would just always be burning trash in the ditch and we'd be running and jumping
01:01:16.620
we look like a group of young African American children,
01:01:30.420
there was a rich guy who was a veterinarian or whatever,
01:01:32.500
and he would drive through our neighborhood and he would take like dead animals and stuff
01:01:36.320
out of the trunk and he would throw their bodies out into our like ditch.
01:01:41.380
just like getting rid of them on the way to like some other rich area or whatever,
01:01:46.220
our street was like a pass through between a couple of rich areas kind of.
01:01:51.680
so it always made me angry at rich people because it'd be like these.
01:02:17.060
And I think he was having to put these animals to sleep.
01:02:21.220
this wasn't a time when people would keep their dog.
01:02:22.980
This was a time when a lot of dogs weren't in inside.
01:02:39.900
So he would get rid of some of the carcasses and stuff.
01:02:50.060
Like they just throw out the junk for poor people to deal with,
01:02:55.620
And then we ended up throwing bones at each other and shit.
01:03:06.860
We had like a couple of dangerous dogs that would travel around the
01:03:22.580
There were some cats that lived outside and we're up to very bad things.
01:03:32.460
There's no denying that they worked for the Satan.
01:03:41.500
but that wasn't something that people had on a regular basis.
01:03:45.480
I remember the first time I went to my friend's house and they had an indoor dog
01:03:55.880
You can have an animal just go get some of it for you.
01:04:00.920
Like that blew my mind when they told me what it was.
01:04:08.900
Like we can't even go in our apartment two days a week because some of the gas
01:04:13.060
issues and these people have an animal that will just run off and grab a
01:04:23.800
beautiful hair and it looked like a beautiful woman to me.
01:04:28.580
It was better looking than most of the women in our area.
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This is one of the funniest times I've had on a podcast in probably two years.
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that when I saw that golden retriever for sure,
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Sometimes, I mean, I know a lot of people that just, like, do research and, like, let the morality of stuff go.
01:07:08.700
But, like, imagine that was your sister, brother, or whatever.
01:07:14.520
And we're talking about the Renee Goodes shooting.
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I'm not going to get into, like, a lot of the, like, angular stuff, that sort of thing.
01:07:28.920
But I do want to cover this a little bit because we haven't talked about it on here.
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It'll be the same plate when you come talk to us later.
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And this is a lady and her girlfriend who are out, and they're protesting these ICE agents.
01:07:57.640
Renee Goodes was involved with an activist group called Minnesota Ice Watch, acting as a legal observer, documenting what's going on, et cetera.
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So, I found out that the defense I keep hearing for this ICE agent is that he, six months ago
01:08:45.480
or so, was dragged 200 feet or something by a vehicle.
01:08:57.720
Um, it says the Immigration and Customs Enforcement agent who shot and killed 37-year-old Renee
01:09:02.180
Nicole Good in Minneapolis on Wednesday was dragged by a car in the line of duty last
01:09:07.320
So, there was documentation that that happened to him.
01:09:09.760
Ross needed more than 50 stitches and had abrasions on his knee, elbow, and face, according
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I don't think there's any way that you couldn't, right?
01:09:19.080
Like, he's going to be trigger-happy if you're telling me he has trauma related to vehicles.
01:09:28.420
My thoughts on, I think, nobody deserves to lose their life in an instance like this, right?
01:09:39.840
Yes, or let the vehicle go and deal with it later and find a way to deal with it later
01:09:49.400
You know, I think as far as, like, the agitators go, which I think is what it's safe to call
01:09:54.380
them, like, at a certain point, you have to recognize that people are just people, right?
01:10:01.320
So, if someone's a doctor, they're wearing a doctor's coat, if they're wearing a police
01:10:05.720
uniform, a fire uniform, a principal, they're just people.
01:10:16.060
They're still just a regular person like you and I, and we know what it's like to be a
01:10:24.560
I know you want to have an effect, but this just felt like, you know.
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It's just there are so many other ways to go about it.
01:10:33.540
I doubt she had ever been face-to-face with someone that had a gun like that, because I'd
01:10:47.480
A guy pulled, because if an officer pulls his weapon out, they don't usually pull it out
01:10:53.340
Or unless they're probably, they fear the threat of death.
01:10:56.160
I think that's supposed to be why they pull it out.
01:10:57.780
But when is an officer supposed to pull their weapon out?
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Because I feel like I watch a ton of police body cam footage.
01:11:11.360
Oh, well, I don't think anything should have been pulled out here.
01:11:14.300
It's like, I just don't know if this had happened six other times down this street where
01:11:19.340
this woman is moving their car and then blocking in front of them.
01:11:23.620
I'm just saying, at a certain point, it's a bad idea to mill around somebody that has
01:11:32.260
Like, I'm the kind of guy, when people show up with guns, I'm out.
01:11:38.580
If somebody, like, I'm at a party, somebody wants to show somebody a gun, I'm out of here.
01:11:42.420
If I'm at a hunting camp and somebody pulls out a gun, I'm out of here.
01:11:53.140
The primary justification is the officer's reasonable belief that there is an imminent
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danger of death or serious physical injury to themselves or other persons.
01:11:59.700
From my look of view and from the videos I've seen, it seemed to me like he wasn't going
01:12:08.000
But when you factor in the fact that that had happened to him, I'm not surprised that
01:12:17.140
It's just a stupid situation that really felt like it didn't have to happen.
01:12:21.300
Well, also, the scary part about that is this is, like, someone that's, like, a government
01:12:28.740
person, and so her being, you know, annoying or aggravating or whatever, I mean, they're,
01:12:37.780
like, in the U.S., I think there's, like, a certain level, maybe not anymore, but there
01:12:43.780
was, like, of a belief that, like, oh, you know, I'm safe and I'm an American, like, I
01:12:55.120
And if this goes unchecked, it scares me for what that means, what is reasonable after this.
01:13:07.040
It's hard to know if this had been going on for two hours before this or if this had just
01:13:15.940
But what it's, what, to your point is, we're going to get into a place where there's a
01:13:21.800
lot more, I feel like, this, like, vigilante journalism type of thing, where even with,
01:13:32.700
...the Somalian healthcare fraud, you're going to have more of that.
01:13:36.160
And are you going to have more people out here who want to go out and contest the police?
01:13:40.800
Yeah, I, it's, it, overall, in the end, for me, it gets weirder and weirder that we're
01:13:47.880
Like, you and I are able to sit here and watch a video where somebody got killed.
01:13:51.360
Like, we don't see the, the bullets hit them and stuff like that, but we know what happened.
01:14:03.620
Um, one of the things that's happened that's caused a lot of this is they let so many people
01:14:08.560
into the country without proper, uh, documentation and without proper checking in.
01:14:14.180
Like, we had some border patrol agents on where they would, when people were coming across
01:14:18.640
the border, they would have to meet later with an agent at a certain point.
01:14:21.220
Like, because they were so overwhelmed, they'd be like, okay, you have to meet with an agent
01:14:25.080
And so many people were not making those appointments.
01:14:27.880
And so people were just in America undocumented, right?
01:14:30.840
And I just believe that everybody should have documentation.
01:14:33.520
I believe there's, there's fair ways to be in the country.
01:14:35.840
I believe that, um, that we need a proper immigration in and out.
01:14:43.060
Um, Pew Research Center reported 14 million undocumented immigrants in 2023, a record high
01:14:47.580
that likely peaked further before declining in 2025 under stricter enforcement.
01:14:52.380
But what I'm saying is this is one of the reasons why there's so much of this ICE stuff,
01:14:56.980
why there's so much ICE going on, because there's so many people that are, that are up to no
01:15:02.340
good, that don't want to have any laws, that want to hide from documentation, that want
01:15:08.260
Um, and then what's wilder from there is the process of becoming an ICE agent.
01:15:28.180
You have to pass drug tests, medical exams, background checks.
01:15:31.940
Um, for the, it says here for entry level positions, you typically need a bachelor's
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degree, but some, it, there was reports of some recent ICE recruitments, um, stating
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that undergraduate degrees are not always needed.
01:15:42.980
So it's kind of like a gray area as far as that goes.
01:15:49.440
Applicants must generally be referred for selection before age 40.
01:15:52.920
The recent policy changes under Secretary Noem have removed strict age limits to attract
01:15:57.680
more candidates with waivers available for veterans and prior federal law enforcement.
01:16:03.460
So you can be getting a lot of different types.
01:16:06.380
What, uh, what were some of the, like, did you see some of the posters though?
01:16:09.560
And some of the campaigns, can you show some of that?
01:16:20.300
Why is he trying to like, that's like a thirst trap.
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Cause I think they opened up the age restrictions.
01:16:29.200
Um, in an effort to hire more ICE agents, the federal government has lowered the age limit.
01:16:33.580
This poster is part of the Department of Homeland Security's push to hire 10,000 ICE agents.
01:16:38.840
Previously, agents had to be under the age of 40.
01:16:42.280
This is like, yeah, you want this ICE baby girl?
01:16:52.900
Um, he, you know, he looks a little bit like is, uh, Josh Duhamel a little bit.
01:17:01.740
And he might be upset that I said that, but no.
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And he knows, uh, he doesn't, honestly, he doesn't act like he's like, he doesn't act
01:17:45.240
Sometimes I don't even want to go back home after I, it's like, I can't keep living like
01:17:51.540
Like, what, what visual squalor are the rest of us living in if this man gets to operate
01:18:02.360
I'm in a fucking wheelchair and he gets to look like that.
01:18:05.440
Yeah, but you're still, you're, you're, you're hot though.
01:18:28.460
It almost has like a baseball, like, you could, like the baseball umpire.
01:18:32.320
You could umpire whether somebody should be in the country or not, you know?
01:18:35.420
Like, the type of people this is for are not the people that should be doing this job.
01:18:41.460
And, like, I feel, yeah, like, they're like, hey, does no one respect you at home?
01:18:51.220
Well, I bet you do get some of that energy where people, that's the thing.
01:18:54.600
It's like, in the end, the people who are officers, police, anything, they're just people.
01:19:00.140
Like, they're taking those feelings of whatever's happening to them at home, whatever's in the
01:19:03.920
rest of their life, whatever else has occurred, and they're taking them out there.
01:19:07.320
And we also expect, like, guys to also be, um, I mean, I think this poster is kind of
01:19:12.780
I do think that they, like, just kind of expanded to try and just get more people in.
01:19:17.660
This feels like it's like, oh, you're the umpire and you're calling safe, you know,
01:19:23.140
You can decide who's safe and out of America, you know?
01:19:25.400
I think that's the kind of energy I get from this poster a little bit.
01:19:28.200
Um, but, but, but yeah, everybody takes whatever it is into the world with them, you know?
01:19:36.020
And it's like, even though we put on certain uniforms or certain, like, costumes or certain
01:19:40.320
name tags, like, whether you're the principal or a teacher, like, it's still just a person.
01:19:45.280
And that's why I feel like to be out there, like, just taunting a person, whether the person's
01:19:50.300
a police, anybody, it's like, especially these days, it feels dangerous to, like, engage
01:19:57.720
Um, but this poster does say ICE hiring 10,000 agents with a $50,000 hiring bonus.
01:20:06.140
Now that makes me want to dust off the old umpire uniform.
01:20:20.320
And you know what's the craziest thing these days?
01:20:32.720
We don't even know if this is a real ICE agent.
01:20:34.700
There's so many people out there that are just cosplaying and getting involved in shit.
01:20:39.400
You, it's like, you just don't even know what's real anymore.
01:20:42.740
And the government could create, or the government or different entities could create videos like
01:20:58.860
I will say, there have been a couple of AI videos of me, but they can't make even AI me walk.
01:21:18.480
Has there been, like, was there ever times where you tried, like, alternative methods
01:21:25.620
Like, did you ever go to, like, Honolulu or something?
01:21:31.480
They never took you to, like, an exotic place to get a new medicine?
01:21:39.420
And they locked me in a hospital for a month because we weren't—normally—okay.
01:21:45.600
That's—usually people get to go—you go to, like, New Zealand or you're going to, you know,
01:22:01.060
It's, like, it's, like, 45 minutes from New York.
01:22:18.560
Try just having your husband drag you through it.
01:22:20.660
Yeah, and every two seconds I'm, like, are you mad at me?
01:22:27.220
What, uh, what therapies did you try or what was something that you tried that was kind
01:22:32.360
So, there's—the thing that—the reason I'm, like, like, emotionally okay now, I do have
01:22:39.540
a lot of faith that, uh, medicine will catch up.
01:22:44.040
Um, like, the one I did out there was a frataxin replacement therapy.
01:22:50.800
Um, so they're trying to figure out how to get it back in your body.
01:22:55.040
And then, at that point, it would be me relearning how to walk.
01:23:00.580
They do believe they'll cure me in my—like, but then the next 10, 5 or 10 years, you're
01:23:13.260
So, was there a time when you felt like there would be no cure?
01:23:17.060
Well, when I got diagnosed, I was like, all right, now we know.
01:23:25.580
And they were like, well, your life expectancy is 40.
01:23:32.860
And they're like, you're going to lose the ability to walk, talk, see, hear, like, all
01:23:47.140
But now, I am on a med called Skyclaris, which is the only treatment out there for FA what
01:23:58.460
And, I mean, it hasn't been around long enough to, like, have, like, long-term research done.
01:24:05.800
So, there's a little bit of being a guinea pig in it.
01:24:16.860
And it's supposed to, like, pause the progression, which I am A-okay with.
01:24:23.040
Like, if I can stay this way and not turn into Stephen Hawking, you know.
01:24:28.240
That's my, he did get to go to cool places, though.
01:24:39.020
And are you guys ever at odds with, like, that kind of stuff?
01:24:41.580
Like, do you, or is there, is it, it's probably a very similar, like, type of experience?
01:24:45.880
Um, I think it's worse because it's quicker and you're definitely gonna, he lived for a long time.
01:25:44.900
I don't know if he was my stepdad or not, but, um, he had a dog named Muffy.
01:25:49.960
And at the end, it was just blind or whatever, but it had these teeth.
01:26:11.840
And the dog had, like, kind of those brown, like, marks around his mouth.
01:26:23.960
Yeah, it's like brown all around their mouth and stuff.
01:26:43.760
God, he would brush them bitches till they were just fucking shining.
01:26:49.440
I mean, just fucking, just like, just look like a belt buckle right out there.
01:26:58.120
I mean, yeah, anyway, what are we talking about?
01:27:04.620
So, there was a time in your life when you went, you were like, wow, so my life is only
01:27:09.800
And then there's a time now where you feel like it will be different.
01:27:13.600
And it's weird being given sort of a death sentence.
01:27:19.340
Did you do some things you were like, oh, I'm going to treat myself some crazy ways?
01:27:22.120
Like, there's no reason for me to care about anything.
01:27:25.800
And now I'm like, fuck, I'm going to be here longer.
01:27:45.440
So, I'm like, I'm going to fuck everyone I can while I can walk into it.
01:28:00.960
Did you, um, did you feel like you would ever find love?
01:28:07.500
Well, it's, the scariest part is like people meet you while you're walking with the game.
01:28:12.720
And then you have to explain to them, it's going to get worse.
01:28:19.800
And so, I would try to avoid that conversation and avoid telling the name of what I have.
01:28:41.060
Yeah, well, at least it gives you your own ownership over it, too.
01:28:45.180
Um, but, you know, I mean, Matt and I got together before the medicine came around.
01:28:53.700
So, he signed up for me thinking I'd look like Steven.
01:28:58.880
But also, he signed up thinking if he gets 10 more years of, I mean, you are a beautiful lady.
01:29:03.780
If you, if he gets 10 years of this beautiful lady, that's a good deal.
01:29:06.700
Oh, I feel like, was that what he was thinking?
01:29:09.200
Or, was it, was it hard for you to get, to believe that he was in, like, what was that
01:29:14.080
Was it hard for you to believe, like, really, at some point?
01:29:18.020
Because I think at some point, all of us, it's hard for us to believe that somebody would
01:29:25.620
But, you being a comedian and having, um, having this ailment, do you feel like, like,
01:29:31.260
that, was that, was there ever, like, an about face?
01:29:33.240
You're like, wow, I, I just, I have to believe this?
01:29:36.480
Yeah, I think in the beginning it was hard, because he, like, my husband is a really good
01:30:44.120
I guess, like, I had to have known, because we actually booked the venue before we were engaged.
01:31:01.580
Yeah, well, they, we, he took me to dinner at a place I did not like.
01:31:20.660
And then I get a call from the booker at Zany's, and they're like, someone's here.
01:31:31.120
And so, we close out our tab, and we are driving over to Zany's.
01:31:36.280
He's being nervous, and I think he's nervous, because I'm nervous.
01:31:50.660
Oh, man, and then I, he was like, maybe it's Nikki Glaser, and I was like, oh, because
01:31:57.160
I had never met her at that point, and I was like, oh, my God.
01:32:01.280
So, I'm rolling real quick, top speed, around the corner, and then Matt goes, wait, come
01:32:12.560
And I look up, and he got on my knee, and I don't think I even said yes.
01:32:18.740
I think I just kept saying, I'm going to throw up on you.
01:32:31.760
It makes me think so much differently of this place now, when I'm there.
01:32:35.460
I didn't know that people were falling in love right outside of there, and playing in their
01:32:40.240
They let us have our, we had, like, an after party after the wedding and reception.
01:32:57.820
So, that must have been, yeah, because I guess, like, yeah, I guess you, did, yeah, were there
01:33:02.560
feelings, like, do you feel like, I'll net, like, because I think comics in general have
01:33:06.720
a tough time finding love and figuring that kind of stuff out, you know?
01:33:09.960
Yeah, and the lifestyle of being a comedian, it's really hard to negotiate with love, right?
01:33:17.620
So, I mean, I feel lucky that we're both, we travel, and now we're starting to travel
01:33:25.920
Matt features for me a lot on the road, which is, like, you know, a dream come true.
01:33:33.200
We're starting to do where he's headlining this Sunday, and I'm doing Friday and Saturday.
01:33:41.580
Just the ability to be able to do that together, that's pretty cool.
01:33:47.880
Is there points where you, like, um, has it felt weird having a, having this ailment that
01:33:54.920
you're not even going to have that much longer, which is going to be really fucking weird?
01:34:01.000
Everyone's going to be like, that dumb bitch was faking it, and I don't know what to do.
01:34:06.040
I want to do a special now called Before, and then I'll do one called After.
01:34:15.360
Um, was there a part, like, I guess, yeah, what's that relationship like with comedy and
01:34:21.300
with, um, obviously you have, people have to joke about what they know the most, right?
01:34:25.740
And I think people are, people, a lot of times are, I think they look at people, I think sometimes
01:34:33.200
people look at people that have an ailment or something, either as, like, a good luck
01:34:38.480
omen or, like, as, like, something that they're almost fearful of, right?
01:34:45.800
You know, they don't want to think, like, oh, that could be me or I could be in that situation.
01:34:49.580
Well, that's the weird part about, like, the sympathy.
01:34:53.800
Some of it truly is that, just simple sympathy.
01:34:58.760
But a lot of the times I can tell when people feel bad for themselves because they've created
01:35:04.880
a whole story of, like, how terrible their life would be if they were me.
01:35:24.400
I think it's interesting to think, like, yeah, like, how we relate to people sometimes.
01:35:29.840
And in the end, it's a reflection of something about us or some way we view ourselves or some
01:35:35.000
way that we're afraid to imagine ourselves or there's, like, a, there's an ego in that
01:35:43.800
That stuff, it's hard to kind of figure out exactly what that is.
01:35:48.000
Yeah, well, it's like, you know, I've been now diagnosed disabled for 11 years.
01:36:09.620
It is not my job to figure out what your intention was.
01:36:20.000
And is it just Kill Tony fans trying to show affection?
01:36:39.380
It's people, men asking if I'll roll over their dicks.
01:36:58.020
I mean, I bet it's added a lot of, like, color just to your life.
01:37:00.560
I think things like that are just, I mean, yeah, some of that stuff's insane.
01:37:04.160
Is there ever stuff that does kind of ping you a little bit that's like, are you able
01:37:08.260
There's, there's, yeah, you know, it's whenever someone touches on your real insecurity and
01:37:15.400
For me, it's not functioning a long time ago, but my voice is all I have.
01:37:26.360
So, I recognize I speak slow is because I'm trying to pronunciate, you know, or enunciate.
01:37:36.680
Did you used to be, like, louder and have a different voice at all?
01:37:54.760
Oh, now it just seems like, it just, I don't know.
01:37:57.480
I feel like you want everybody, I kind of always feel like you're like a kindergarten teacher.
01:38:01.380
You want everybody to sit on the rug and listen to a story, kind of.
01:38:12.960
Are you ever, like, do you have moments where you're also envious of the fact that you get to have such a perspective of life?
01:38:20.620
Because you, like, not many of us have this thing where there's a possible timeline on our lives, you know, and you know what that's like.
01:38:27.680
But also are able to have a voice, like you have, like, able to be a comedian whose job it is to articulate things and to share thoughts and feelings.
01:38:34.320
Is there ever moments you're like, wow, this has been, you know, if I don't get to do life again or if we do get to do it a hundred more times, this has been a pretty special experience?
01:38:45.040
Yeah, I feel very fortunate because I, before the diagnosis, the things I cared about did not matter.
01:39:00.500
It just took them, once things are taken away, it kind of strips down to, like, the truth and the core of, like, what is important, right?
01:39:10.840
I was very vapid, very, like, whatever, like, I didn't care about my relationships that much, you know?
01:39:22.980
So, like, the more you can connect with people, the bigger the impact you leave, you know what I mean?
01:39:30.780
And all I want to do now, which I never first saw any of this, is, like, yeah, give a voice to the voiceless a little bit.
01:39:40.620
And with them telling me my voice was going, it feels so ironic that I'm doing that.
01:39:53.100
It's, like, all we have, especially, like, I think it was work, if you work in a comedian or someplace where you speak or someplace you have to, like, communicate with others regularly.
01:40:02.500
It's just, like, man, if I, my voice, I can't tell you how I feel.
01:40:12.960
So, I did, I think you're talking about the TED talk.
01:40:24.040
But, yeah, that was really crazy because that was the first time.
01:40:30.520
I publicly spoke and it wasn't comedy and not, like, getting laughs because I wasn't being funny was really stressful.
01:40:59.220
It wasn't really, I wasn't someone that was seeking that.
01:41:06.940
But, no, I was like, cool, I can't imagine that.
01:41:34.000
All right, that's all people say is like, yeah, shout out Alabama.
01:41:53.620
You seem to be on your period when you show up over there.
01:41:58.320
It's just women on their period during the game, for the game.
01:42:09.040
Red Band will judge a seat sniffing competition after.
01:42:19.380
So all the people who throughout this episode were like, Theo's doing too many jokes, just
01:42:33.800
She just did the, she hosted the Golden Globes.
01:42:42.780
You know, she was an opener for Amy Schumer for a long time where Amy was like, you know,
01:42:48.940
And, uh, and here she is as just like the absolute queen.
01:42:57.940
The Golden Globe for best editing goes to the Justice Department.
01:43:06.360
And the award for most editing goes to CBS News.
01:43:27.380
She actually, I had never had anyone take me on the road.
01:43:32.800
And I understood pretty quickly that probably was not going to be part of my community journey.
01:43:39.700
Because taking me on the road, you got to account for a chair and blah, blah, blah.
01:43:45.260
I DM'd her out of nowhere because I saw she was coming to the Ryman.
01:43:54.620
I'd love to, you know, do a guest spot if you have a room.
01:43:58.880
And she replied within like a couple hours and was like absolutely loved.
01:44:03.980
And had me on both her shows and then took me on the road.
01:44:09.020
Yeah, and she was, she's the only person that's taking me on the road.
01:44:14.600
And she like paid for an extra ticket for Matt because she wanted me to have someone there.
01:44:26.760
Every time we sit and chat, we have a great time.
01:44:29.340
Dude, imagine that you're sitting there and you get to joke with Leonardo DiCaprio.
01:44:42.380
And the most impressive thing is that you were able to accomplish all of that before your girlfriend turned 30.
01:44:54.900
I tried not to, but like, we don't know anything else about you, man.
01:45:04.820
He's starting to look like Jack Nicholson a little bit.
01:45:24.100
You don't think Leonardo had any hair implants or anything?
01:45:29.660
I think he has a great hairline, but I bet he also could have easily had that done.
01:45:34.400
I mean, if you're only, if you're only dating young girls, you gotta.
01:46:02.020
What are, like, some of the toughest things about being, having this disability that people
01:46:10.800
Are there some little things that are kind of interesting?
01:46:13.880
I think there's a general assumption that, like, I am mentally disabled because of how
01:46:24.900
I've, oh my God, I do have a joke about this, but it's, like, a real story.
01:46:39.200
So, I went there with some friends a couple years ago, and we rented one out.
01:46:46.100
It's, like, six girls, you know, drinking, whatever.
01:46:49.240
And long story short, I watched my friend get roofied, okay?
01:46:56.240
But, again, nothing bad has happened to any of my friends, so they just take drinks from
01:47:03.300
So, my friend is getting real sick and starting to pass out.
01:47:09.580
My able-bodied friends all go to the bathroom together.
01:47:12.520
Dude, I saw, give her the drink, tries to come in.
01:47:16.720
She's passed out, and he's like, hey, that's my friend.
01:47:22.440
And I was like, no, and I just rolled over and put my foot on the door to close it, and
01:47:28.300
then he shouldered it open, and I kicked him in the wiener.
01:47:33.120
And I started yelling for help because he's fighting me, and I can't do much.
01:47:39.320
And finally, security comes over, and the guy goes, hey, guys, I'm so sorry.
01:47:44.740
That's my girlfriend, my friend, Bessa, and this is her mentally retarded friend that
01:47:52.620
And I had to convince these security guards that I was not mentally disabled.
01:48:10.680
It's like trying to convince someone you're from the future.
01:48:31.960
No, we got kicked out, but that guy didn't get my friends, so that's the win.
01:48:46.700
Just crazy there's sick people out there like that, too.
01:48:49.480
What would you say to people, other people that have, a lot of people don't have the same
01:48:56.280
Yeah, but they have stuff similar, and it's cool that my shows a lot of disabled people
01:49:06.160
I mean, I would love one day just, like, for the club to have to take out every chair because
01:49:19.160
And were there people that had ailments that you looked up to at certain points, or did
01:49:25.940
There's one that comes, and I know there are more, but, like, kind of the, like, godmother
01:49:32.760
of disability, her name, she's dead now, but her name was Judy Heumann, and she helped
01:49:51.700
She rocked, basically, yeah, the Black Panthers helped get the ADA passed.
01:50:00.960
Judy Heumann, born in Philadelphia, was an American disability rights activist known as
01:50:07.840
She was recognized internationally as a leader in the disability movement.
01:50:10.860
In 1970, Heumann was denied her New York teaching license because the board did not believe she
01:50:15.120
could get herself or her students out of the building in case of a fire.
01:50:20.980
Local newspaper ran the headline, you can be president, not teacher, with polio.
01:50:28.420
Heumann received much mail from disabled people around the country due to press coverage of
01:50:32.280
Many wrote about the experience of discrimination because of their disabilities, based on the
01:50:37.180
In 1970, Heumann and several friends founded the Disabled in Action, an organization focused
01:50:43.280
on securing the protection of people with disabilities under civil rights laws through political
01:50:49.980
Do you think, um, do you think there is a common, like, energy where people feel like you
01:50:58.360
I think people think Matt is my caregiver and not my husband.
01:51:07.620
Yeah, you're like, my caregiver keeps taking advantage of it, you know?
01:51:11.580
My caregiver keeps grabbing my boobs and, hey, right.
01:51:16.320
Yeah, I guess there's part of you, I think, just, like, as someone that doesn't have an ailment
01:51:22.640
like this right now, um, that, like, you feel like you want to be helpful and you don't
01:51:34.060
People always are like, well, how do I know when you need help?
01:51:38.560
And if it's, like, an innocent question, I understand that, but, like, I'm an adult, I
01:51:49.720
So, like, unless I'm like, hey, can you do this for me?
01:51:55.640
You know, I, learning how to ask for help was one of the toughest parts about, like, I
01:52:12.780
Yeah, it's a nightmare, but, like, there is so much power in being able to.
01:52:18.780
And I know disabled people that are bad at it and they hurt themselves not asking for
01:52:27.800
Good are you to yourself or others if you're hurting yourself?
01:52:35.400
I mean, you'll sit there forever and be in pain because you just don't want to speak
01:52:39.220
I think it goes back to even sometimes it's like how even, like, how, like, those law
01:52:43.420
I think there's a code of human where it's like, I want to be able to take care of myself.
01:52:48.840
I don't want somebody to know I'm having a tough time.
01:52:54.220
I think a lot of that probably comes to surface.
01:52:57.900
What is something that you see, like, walkies or I don't know what you call, like, people
01:53:04.860
What is something you see daywalkers do that just blows your mind?
01:53:09.060
Is there anything that, like, comes up like that?
01:53:10.640
Um, I think able-bodied men are dumb as fuck because I see them do the dumbest shit.
01:53:24.520
Like, the jackass stuff, I'm like, y'all are so lucky, but, like, anything bad can happen
01:53:32.900
Like, the disabled minority is the most inclusive minority.
01:53:42.300
Yeah, like, you feel bad for me today, but you could be sitting next to me tomorrow.
01:53:52.960
Is there, uh, are there, like, AA meetings for people that have different types of, um,
01:53:58.560
uh, ailments or, like, that have, like, mobility ailments?
01:54:07.320
I've never been to one, which is probably not good.
01:54:15.300
But it's hard, also, because I feel disability, it looks like so many different things.
01:54:24.160
You don't want to get in there with somebody who just has a neck brace on or something.
01:54:36.340
See, that's another place we've gotten with these autistic Barbies.
01:54:38.920
It's, like, making everybody believe that there's something that they have.
01:54:42.420
And it's, like, it might be true, but, like, you're fine.
01:54:48.740
I mean, I think there's, like, you just don't even realize the blessings that we have every day.
01:54:53.640
I was just, this morning I woke up with a good amount of gratitude for the first time.
01:54:57.540
I haven't had that in a while, and it felt pretty good.
01:55:06.300
Oh, did you see in Iran that they cut off, or Iran, people call it different stuff, but
01:55:10.640
did you see that they cut off all the internet and the phones over there?
01:55:18.400
Nationwide unrest in Iran right now is being driven mainly by a severe economic crisis that
01:55:22.240
has quickly turned into a broader anti-government movement.
01:55:27.260
Iran's currency has plunged to record lows with the rial, that's what they use, losing a
01:55:32.100
large share of its value and pushing up prices for food, fuel, and other essential items.
01:55:38.200
The initial economic anger morphed into political slogans like death to the dictator and calls
01:55:46.500
So, inflation above 40% in years of sanctions, mismanagement, and corruption have left many
01:55:51.640
Iranians unable to cover basic living costs, prompting shopkeepers, workers, and students
01:56:18.240
I think at a certain point, you see when things get bad enough that people will take
01:56:23.940
Which I guess is still nice to see that people, you know...
01:56:30.080
Because it starts to feel like an America sometimes, like...
01:56:35.940
And as long as somebody's mailing me some Tostitos or something, and I can't have government
01:56:41.900
Like, I just think we've gotten very comfortable here, you know?
01:56:45.680
I mean, what would happen in America if the government was down?
01:57:09.640
You'd be like one of those Waymos that, like, just went in a circle or whatever when it
01:57:16.120
Do we have anything from just somebody, like, boots on the ground over there?
01:57:36.120
They shot protesters in the head and heart and even finished off those already wounded
01:57:41.300
In hospitals, the wounded are being kidnapped and killed.
01:57:46.640
Says, at least 12,000 Iranians fighting for freedom have been murdered by the regime.
01:57:54.720
Okay, the death toll and growing protests in Iran is believed to be in the thousands
01:58:01.700
with an Iranian official putting the figure at 2,000, but human rights groups estimating
01:58:10.420
Have been killed in protests of Iran now in their third week.
01:58:15.020
Iranian officials have called the protesters terrorists and accused them of rioting.
01:58:18.580
I mean, it's interesting to see how quickly a republic will call someone a terrorist.
01:58:27.880
Iran International, a London-based Persian language news channel, wrote in an editorial
01:58:32.060
on Tuesday that it believes 12,000 people have been killed.
01:58:35.240
They called it the largest killing in Iran's contemporary history, taking place over two
01:58:44.360
Demonstrations began in late December over economic hardships, but have grown into widespread
01:58:50.240
anger against the regime of the Islamic Republic.
01:58:54.900
Yeah, prayers for the people in Iran that are dealing with that, that are dealing with
01:58:58.160
just like, I can't even imagine what it's like not to be able to have a voice to feel
01:59:03.960
It just goes to show like in the old days when they didn't have the internet and they didn't
01:59:07.200
have cell phones, you still had a voice, right?
01:59:10.360
But I think this is almost, this feels like proof to me that those things create what
01:59:18.660
Because some of those companies will be like, well, it doesn't matter how we act or how we
01:59:22.940
behave or what like rules we allow or don't allow on our platforms because if you don't
01:59:27.640
have this, you still have a voice, but you really kind of don't.
01:59:31.820
It's like, it's hard to know what's going on somewhere.
01:59:37.280
Well, it's like we became so reliant on technology and stuff that we don't know how to have a
01:59:47.260
And that was by design because it's something that can be taken very easily.
01:59:59.660
It's like, oh, well, here's a voice, but it's for lease really.
02:00:03.860
It's like a voice you are no longer allowed to own.
02:00:14.820
Trump said, Iranian patriots, keep protesting, take over your institutions, save the names
02:00:22.160
I have canceled all meetings with the Iranian officials until the senseless killing of protesters
02:00:36.360
Any country doing business with the Islamic Republic of Iran will pay a tariff of 25% on
02:00:40.320
any and all business being done with the United States of America.
02:00:48.860
I mean, half the stuff they say is means nothing, but, uh, but they're definitely sticking their
02:00:56.480
Man, it's just so, it sucks so much that people, the regular people have to suffer the, the
02:01:03.860
But then also it's brave that people are willing to get out and protest and speak up for things
02:01:10.180
You know, uh, if, if your government is just ruining the value of your currency and you're
02:01:17.280
Like I saw, I've read some of the price of eggs over there gone up like seven times and
02:01:22.200
that they have oil and then they reframe the prices of, uh, of gasoline over there to make
02:01:28.000
At a certain point, you have to stand up for yourselves, you know?
02:01:37.800
See if you have a, uh, one video of Iran before the, uh, in the 1970s before the.
02:02:09.420
It's crazy to think to live in a, grow up in a place where you're not free.
02:02:15.520
And it is not, you just are a soul put on an earth.
02:02:22.020
Like whether you're supposed to just live in the woods or whatever we're supposed to actually
02:02:25.900
It's weird that just by happenstance, you're either free or you're not just depending on
02:02:36.960
And like, not to like make it all about disability, but like being disabled in a country that's
02:02:46.400
I mean, even here before Judy Heumann did her thing, there were signs like in the 90s on
02:02:57.860
like windows of like private businesses and some of them wouldn't let disabled people in
02:03:05.260
because it made their other customers uncomfortable.
02:03:17.020
Like even now, I think as a minority, even though we are the largest minority, we have
02:03:25.260
It's because all we're asking is for accessibility and no one wants to spend money.
02:03:31.460
And when money is involved, you're going to see change real slow.
02:03:37.020
Like I can't even afford to really make where I live completely accessible.
02:03:49.380
I mean, I don't ever, I don't ever even think about that a lot of times.
02:03:54.920
Yeah, I didn't think about it before I was disabled, you know?
02:03:59.600
I never thought this is all I would think about.
02:04:05.780
Like, you can't even like, half of the living, more than half of the living, you can't even,
02:04:10.220
probably doesn't even apply to you because you can't get it.
02:04:12.420
I want to talk to a disabled person that lives in New York and be like, how?
02:04:18.240
I mean, I've been a few times now, but not for more than two days because getting around
02:04:26.400
Like, so many like, restaurants are just stairs.
02:04:30.160
And so, I'll wait on the sidewalk and Matt will go in and like, send me a picture of the
02:04:38.640
You don't even think how many comedians who are disabled comedians probably haven't
02:04:41.740
even had a chance to shine because of how, just because of maybe what a place like New
02:04:47.320
York is, just the fact that it is stairs to get in a lot of places.
02:04:57.760
I haven't been able, I've been able to get in that side room.
02:05:03.060
They have a little elevator, but not the main one.
02:05:09.140
I remember when I started comedy, I had never seen, I've seen like Josh Blue.
02:05:22.040
I met him once before, way before I was a comic.
02:05:26.240
I was at, I paid money to go to a show at Zaneers.
02:05:30.580
I got shit-faced and embarrassed myself in front of him.
02:05:38.800
You sure you didn't get in a drunk driving accident?
02:05:45.500
Yeah, and he was doing a little meet and greet.
02:05:56.500
I tried to jump a curb in my wheelchair that night.
02:06:04.400
Yeah, they just put some speed bumps in our neighborhood.
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Oh, every now and then I'll see a disabled person just stalled out of there at the speed
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And you're like, well, they didn't ask for help, so I'm not helping.
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What about the new Drewski skit where he rips on megachurch pastures?
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Wanda told us earlier this month that she could not have a baby anymore.
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I'm going to impregnate everyone with the word of God.
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You're going to get pregnant with the word of God.
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You're going to get pregnant with the word of God.
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You're going to get pregnant with the word of God.
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Somebody in the congregation asks why I'm wearing Christian doors.
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You're like, look, if they're not putting a ramp in,
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they're certainly not putting in two cables that I can hang from the ceiling from.
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If you had a whole musical and it was people that are in wheelchairs and they're all being
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puppeteered, though, and they have them like as if they're not.
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I know you and Matt have a podcast called Ramping Up.
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He's maybe the funniest working comic I've seen in a long time.
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I think I had an aneurysm last year, but we'll see.
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That's going to be a new merch, saving you a seat.
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Fiona Cawley, you can see her live coming up in Chandler, Arizona.
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I'm nervous because I assume it's snowy in Denver right now.
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And I think there's one downtown and there's one that's on the-
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It's got a good, there's like good places to eat right around there.
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I think downtown is new and it's more like events is what I heard.
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Uh, so, um, Matt, uh, thanks so much for being here.
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Fiona Cawley, thanks so much for coming in and hanging out today.
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I'm glad we got to chat and just laugh and, um, and think about some stuff together.
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And you guys go see her, check her out wherever she is.
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This is one of the funniest episodes I've had in, I mean, probably two years is probably
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Oh, but when I reach that ground, I'll share this peace of mind I found.