This Past Weekend with Theo Von - #640

00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, it's Theo Vaughn here, and I got a question.

00:00:04.000 When it comes to soda, are you really picking a zero sugar cola that you actually prefer,

00:00:10.160 or are you just settling for what you've always had?

00:00:14.140 That's the question.

00:00:15.580 And I'll say this, when it comes to taste, I find that nothing beats Pepsi Zero Sugar.

00:00:20.740 But you don't just have to take my word for it, that would be ridiculous.

00:00:25.480 Pepsi has been doing blind taste tests for years.

00:00:30.180 No labels, no brand names, just taste.

00:00:34.420 And last year, they brought back the Pepsi Challenge, and the results were clear.

00:00:39.600 66% of people agreed and said that Pepsi Zero Sugar tastes better than Coca-Cola Zero Sugar.

00:00:47.300 In fact, Pepsi Zero Sugar won in every market they tested.

00:00:50.640 So if you're grabbing a zero sugar soda, go with the one people keep choosing

00:00:54.500 when taste is the only thing that matters.

00:00:57.040 Go out and try Pepsi Zero Sugar today.

00:00:59.220 Let your taste decide.

00:01:01.020 Just a reminder that you can watch video versions of our episodes now on Spotify as well.

00:01:07.040 Today's guest is an actor.

00:01:08.820 He's a producer.

00:01:10.340 He's a life explorer, if you will.

00:01:14.780 He has a new film out that's called Crime 101.

00:01:17.160 It's in theaters right now.

00:01:18.200 You can go check it out.

00:01:19.080 I had a good time getting to know this Australian gentleman.

00:01:24.540 Today's guest is Mr. Chris Hemsworth.

00:01:28.400 Shine on me

00:01:31.000 And I will find a song

00:01:35.260 I've been singing

00:01:36.440 Australians, I think they just, I feel like they're more like risque with their lives,

00:01:47.880 kind of.

00:01:48.760 Yeah, there is a lack of, well, it's a risk averse due to either the lack of fear or the extra

00:01:57.400 amount of stupidity at times.

00:01:58.980 Yeah.

00:01:59.420 It fluctuates.

00:02:00.560 It's a beautiful bravery, though, that they have, you know?

00:02:03.560 Yeah.

00:02:04.020 And even, like, when you travel, like, one thing I remember from just traveling a lot

00:02:06.880 was just seeing Australians everywhere.

00:02:08.840 Yeah.

00:02:09.140 They pop up in anything, you know?

00:02:11.460 Like, you turn on a tap in another country, like, you know, you're pouring a beer and a

00:02:14.980 couple of Australians just come out on surfboards, kind of a boogie board.

00:02:18.580 Yeah, it's, as an Australian, that's always problematic.

00:02:20.920 It's like, you go to a country to get away from Australia and have a different cultural

00:02:24.140 experience, and it's, oh, g'day, mate, shit.

00:02:26.480 Yeah, I know you, and the next minute you're all at the bar together doing what you did

00:02:29.440 back home.

00:02:30.160 Yeah.

00:02:30.860 Yeah, I could totally see that, man.

00:02:32.680 Yeah.

00:02:33.100 Where does that nature come from in Australians to go?

00:02:35.720 Is that, like, a, because, I mean, it's a serious thing that I think everyone would

00:02:40.120 say is that you go anywhere and there's Australians there.

00:02:42.320 I think it's, you know, we're quite isolated where we are, you know, and for such a, we're

00:02:48.760 a young country as far as the, you know, the white settlement being there, you know,

00:02:53.280 in the last sort of 200 and so years, and there's been always a sense of adventure either

00:03:00.260 across the country itself or just the need to get out and explore, because, again, it's

00:03:05.020 not like, you know, if you're in Europe, you're, you know, jumping from France to Italy,

00:03:09.120 to London, and you can have, you know, different cultural experiences within, you know, a two-hour

00:03:14.600 train ride.

00:03:15.300 For us, it's a big adventure, you know, pack a backpack, and you're on several flights

00:03:20.280 and buses and trains and boats and whatever, and so there is an adventurous spirit, but

00:03:26.220 I think, you know, all the guys I grew up with, it was, like, finish high school and

00:03:31.100 go backpacking around the world.

00:03:32.820 So that's, like, a big thing where people are, like, when they finish, so, like, when

00:03:36.020 they finish high school, it's, like, I'm going to get out of here, I'm going to go

00:03:38.000 experience something.

00:03:39.220 Yeah.

00:03:39.280 Is it almost taboo if you don't, in a way, that if you don't have, like, a...

00:03:43.040 No, I think it just comes from not having figured out what you want to do next, you

00:03:46.340 know, and, like, I had probably 50-50 with my group of friends who knew what they were

00:03:51.200 doing, they were going to, you know, a couple of them went into a trade, and a couple of

00:03:54.920 them went to university, and then a couple of them were, like, I've got no idea, and

00:03:57.960 maybe I'll find it in, you know, Peru or wherever I'm going to go backpacking and, you

00:04:03.780 know, cross paths with folks that might inspire something else in me, but, yeah.

00:04:08.000 Did you do something like that?

00:04:09.380 I know you grew up, like, partially in the Outback and partially in Melbourne, right?

00:04:13.020 Yeah.

00:04:13.520 Grew up in Melbourne, then lived in Northern Territory, in an Aboriginal community, about

00:04:17.280 four hours southeast to Catherine, and, like, in the middle of nowhere.

00:04:21.140 Um, and it was, that was my earliest, most vivid memories, um, but that...

00:04:27.520 Were there in the bush, kind of?

00:04:28.620 Yeah, like, there was an Aboriginal community, a bunch of Aboriginal communities in the region

00:04:33.620 we lived in, and, I mean, all out through, all across Northern Territory, but, um, where

00:04:39.060 we were, the proximity, there were sort of three or four communities that my dad worked,

00:04:43.380 um, ran, like, a cattle station, and then, um, ran, like, a community centre, and I went

00:04:48.920 up there when I was five or six, and then came back to Melbourne, and then, again, when

00:04:52.980 I was, uh, like, seven, eight, nine, you know, so, a couple of different times, but as far

00:04:58.700 as the backpacking thing, I started working when I was 18, I ended up on a soap opera,

00:05:03.840 and then that kind of took me, you know, straight into the, what I'm doing now, but I kind of

00:05:07.980 missed that.

00:05:08.420 And I do look back, and I, especially speaking to a lot of friends of mine that, that had

00:05:12.900 this sort of crazy adventure, prior also to being famous, and prior to being recognised,

00:05:17.240 and you could just kind of get into a bunch of trouble, and, and explore the world, and,

00:05:21.260 and, you know, make all those mistakes, and hopefully learn something from them.

00:05:24.780 I feel like that period, I do, there's a romanticism that I sort of, or a nostalgia that I long for,

00:05:30.220 that I, that I wish I had done that prior to sort of, you know, jumping into, into the working

00:05:34.860 world.

00:05:35.380 Yeah, it's one thing, it's a downside of celebrity or popularity, is that,

00:05:38.420 yeah, you, there's things you can't kind of go do, like, in a, like, yeah, like, sometimes

00:05:42.960 I'll romanticise as well, like, being like, oh, I'd like to go there, go there, but then

00:05:46.420 I'm like, it would be more uncomfortable now, or it would be some type of way, and, uh.

00:05:50.720 Did you do it after school?

00:05:51.940 Did you ever get a chance to travel?

00:05:54.560 Yeah, yeah.

00:05:55.340 I had a girlfriend, we went over there, and that was like a seven country fight we went

00:05:59.600 on.

00:06:00.880 Oh, man.

00:06:01.640 I fought in so many territories, like, oh, man, I thought I was, like, working with Napoleon

00:06:08.060 or something over there.

00:06:09.300 It was a lot of, uh, oh, yeah, I should get a medal for that, and so should she, I'm going

00:06:14.360 to say that.

00:06:15.020 What was, what was the, uh, the drama, what was it coming from?

00:06:19.100 Just, I think, you don't know how you are when it's, like, stressful out there, when

00:06:22.180 you're on trains, and you're moving your bags all the time, and we booked too many places

00:06:26.340 to go see, like, we should have done four days in each spot, and we tried to do, like,

00:06:31.880 two days, nine spots, instead of do, like, four spots, five days, and so you're just

00:06:38.540 constantly on the go, and you just, I would be sneaking off and just drinking wine by myself,

00:06:43.360 and, like, and then one night I took, I reckon went off to the grocery by myself, and somebody

00:06:49.460 had, like, a hit of LSD or something, it was, like, probably a pretty, you know, nouveau

00:06:53.780 grocery, I guess, and, uh, because, I mean, it wasn't on the shelves, but it was available

00:06:58.780 in the parking lot, you know, which I consider an extension of the grocery, um, but, yeah,

00:07:04.340 so then I came back there, and I was, like, I thought it would, like, boost my spirits,

00:07:08.600 and then it was just a long, that was horrible, and that time we were, like, in a camping sort

00:07:13.360 of environment where there were outhouses and stuff, and so.

00:07:15.840 In what country?

00:07:17.160 That was outside of Venice.

00:07:18.980 Yeah.

00:07:19.460 Yeah, so, but it was great, but it was just, like, that was just a lot, you know.

00:07:23.780 I'm too much in.

00:07:24.800 Yeah.

00:07:25.240 Yeah.

00:07:25.820 But, yeah, like, going on that, doing something like that now, it would just feel, like,

00:07:30.240 Yeah.

00:07:30.700 It would feel tougher, and I'm sure, yeah, it's, like, you're Chris Hemsworth now, so

00:07:34.020 it's, like, there's, you know, that name is bigger than you, and so it's, like.

00:07:37.560 It's interesting, because I sort of had a point in my life where, I don't know if you

00:07:41.840 find this, but every few years you're, kind of, you know, what was the goal at one point

00:07:46.060 quickly becomes the norm, and then you're onto something else, and then it's the sort of

00:07:49.780 reassess of, like, what my purpose is around all the why as to doing this thing, and I'm

00:07:55.580 chasing it for one reason, and then it's for something else, and I'm at that sort of point

00:07:59.760 where I'd love to sort of step away on one hand and, you know, do a little sort of soul

00:08:07.420 searching and dig a little deeper and sort of get a little more solitude and time for

00:08:12.140 yourself, but I think, what would that look like, you know, it's, like, yeah, I'm.

00:08:16.680 Right, does the idea that's romantic, that feels like.

00:08:19.320 Yeah, it's not quite.

00:08:20.560 But in the reality, it's hard to, like, say, well, would I be okay in that footing?

00:08:24.220 Yeah, like, I'm not going backpacking at 42, and not that I'm, you know, I've got three

00:08:27.780 kids, and then that's not my kind of.

00:08:29.840 Yeah, your backpack would be full.

00:08:31.280 Yeah, it would be full, full of all three of them.

00:08:33.480 So, but it was, but more just the kind of, how do you, the way you see the world through

00:08:39.020 when you are famous and recognized versus when you're not, you know, different things.

00:08:44.040 People interact differently to you, you know, for good and bad, but also the opportunities

00:08:48.620 that sort of present themselves and the places you can kind of inhabit become a little limited,

00:08:54.260 you know, in that sense, but, you know, it's what it is.

00:08:58.500 Yeah, the world's your oyster, but it's like, you know, it's.

00:09:02.480 You have this opportunity, but there is such a restriction to your, how much you can really

00:09:11.760 involve yourself in it, you know, it becomes very observational, you know, we're going

00:09:15.880 to press tour, and you go to, like, 10 different countries, and it's like, God, that must be

00:09:19.260 amazing.

00:09:19.700 It's like, yeah, from the hotel room, you know, you're looking out, and then, you know,

00:09:23.700 if you're, there's posters and so on around the streets of your face everywhere, then it's

00:09:27.800 even more difficult, but it's, yeah, I, and not to say you can't navigate your way around

00:09:35.540 it at times.

00:09:35.860 Right, and we're not complaining, but no, it's an interesting look, and that's, it's a good

00:09:38.600 thought.

00:09:39.060 Yeah.

00:09:39.400 You can only, it becomes very observational.

00:09:41.980 Yeah, which, which, look, hey, is not a negative either at times, it's sort of.

00:09:46.960 It's what it is.

00:09:47.760 Yeah, yeah.

00:09:48.820 Yeah, it's, I think of, like, popularity and stuff like that.

00:09:51.160 It's just interesting to be part of an experiment, like, okay, this is what it's like.

00:09:54.920 Yeah.

00:09:55.300 That's kind of how I, like, okay, there's good parts, there's bad parts.

00:09:59.000 I don't think of it as me really as much as, like, okay, I'm in this setting.

00:10:02.980 Yeah.

00:10:03.380 And this is the experience.

00:10:04.800 And it's also, it's like the, the, the sort of polarity of things, like every, every time

00:10:12.080 you solve one problem, life has a way of, of presenting another challenge, and not even

00:10:16.920 a problem, it's, it's like the, the, the, in order to be able to evolve and growth, you

00:10:21.600 know, the adversity that's shifted your way.

00:10:23.220 And, and I think that's the sort of the misconception, I suppose, is, is the assuming that this, that

00:10:29.700 and the other will, I'll be void of those problems, you know?

00:10:33.520 It'll solve it all.

00:10:34.440 And so what, what comes with huge benefit, you know, in, in, in, you know, being like

00:10:40.120 your recognizable personality and so on and fame and all that is incredible.

00:10:43.920 And it comes with its own things as does, as does in any industry.

00:10:47.740 I remember talking to my mom about this years ago, she was a high school teacher and I was

00:10:51.080 like, ah, man, it's really tricky at work, you know, the cast and the producer and, you

00:10:56.080 know, then does the film work in this?

00:10:57.860 And she said, yeah, it's, I could kind of, you know, line those things up parallel to

00:11:03.200 my experience, you know, and the students might be my audience and the principals, the

00:11:07.580 producer and so on.

00:11:08.580 And it's like, that's life.

00:11:10.460 That's the experience.

00:11:11.200 And I think I've gotten much better at sort of not, um, you know, egoically thinking that

00:11:19.560 mine, my experience is somehow separate, different or unique.

00:11:22.640 It's like whatever industry, whatever demographic, wherever you're born, you kind of life has

00:11:28.160 a way of throwing you the same sort of, um, options, I guess, to appreciate things in,

00:11:34.520 in, in its truest form rather than sort of, you know, goal seeking or accumulating or, or

00:11:39.980 whatever.

00:11:40.980 Yeah.

00:11:41.980 The game doesn't really change.

00:11:42.980 It's like, you don't think of like, oh, these problems are different.

00:11:45.980 It's just like, okay, now there's new things and that's just life.

00:11:49.220 There's not really like, yeah, I don't think that popularity or celebrity is an escape from

00:11:53.420 no.

00:11:54.420 Um, and I think if you've sort of things, if you're re if you're realistic.

00:11:57.420 Yeah, for sure.

00:11:58.420 And, and there's certainly, you know, there's a sort of, we, we've used to see countless

00:12:03.100 times again and again, the sort of, um, I guess the, not even the purity, but there's

00:12:08.420 sort of the, the, the motivation behind pursuing something.

00:12:12.420 If it is for the assumption of it solving all the problems, like you, you know, get ready

00:12:18.360 for a rude awakening and it's like, oh shit, that didn't answer all the questions I had

00:12:22.140 and, or it did momentarily.

00:12:23.420 And then, you know, there's a new set the next morning.

00:12:25.420 And, and so kind of surrendering to that has been, I think, um, I think that's the, I'd

00:12:30.420 say the, the gift in, in, uh, I think experience any form of fame or sort of, um, celebrity

00:12:38.420 or whatever is that you get to kind of see behind the curtain and you get to have that

00:12:43.420 realization that from afar, most people's are always going to be living with the assumption

00:12:48.420 that it might bring you.

00:12:49.420 Way better behind the curtain.

00:12:50.420 Yeah.

00:12:51.420 Yeah.

00:12:52.420 And you get behind the curtain.

00:12:53.420 On the other side again, you're back to the back in line.

00:12:56.420 Yeah.

00:12:57.420 Yeah.

00:12:58.420 You open the curtain.

00:12:59.420 You realize it's just a mirror.

00:13:00.420 Yeah.

00:13:01.420 Yeah.

00:13:02.420 Exactly that.

00:13:03.420 Exactly that.

00:13:04.420 Yeah.

00:13:05.420 Um, Hey Zach, I'm getting a little bit of reverb.

00:13:06.420 I don't know if it's from the audio in the other room.

00:13:07.420 Have Chris pull his mic down just a hair.

00:13:08.420 I'll do it a bit.

00:13:09.420 Perfect.

00:13:10.420 It's up my nose now.

00:13:11.420 Yeah.

00:13:12.420 We want to see your face, dude, because this is, you know what I'm saying?

00:13:14.420 That's what people want to see.

00:13:15.420 You know what I'm saying?

00:13:16.420 God dang, dude.

00:13:17.420 Yeah.

00:13:18.420 You're fricking looks maxing or whatever they call it, you know?

00:13:22.420 Um, it's gotta be crazy just being so handsome sometimes, dude.

00:13:26.420 I bet your mirror, whenever it sees you, it's like, Oh yeah.

00:13:30.420 I bet your mirror makes a positive sound, you know?

00:13:33.420 Uh, I look, man, does, I mean, does anyone gay at all?

00:13:37.420 Sorry.

00:13:38.420 No, no, no.

00:13:39.420 Just the two of us in a room alone.

00:13:40.420 It's, it's fine.

00:13:41.420 I feel like whatever dude, I appreciate, um, with some tits on it.

00:13:48.420 You're, you're, you're a handsome fellow too, mate.

00:13:51.420 I don't know, dude.

00:13:52.420 I'm side of the road handsome.

00:13:53.420 Like if people are going by at like 50 miles an hour, they're like, Hey, I think that guy

00:13:56.420 was okay.

00:13:57.420 Look, I'm sitting right next to you and I'm, I'm, I'm admiring what I see, mate.

00:14:02.420 I'm hitchhiker handsome.

00:14:03.420 Well, thank you, dude.

00:14:04.420 If you were hitchhiking.

00:14:05.420 Thanks, bro.

00:14:06.420 You would?

00:14:07.420 Absolutely.

00:14:08.420 Where are you headed?

00:14:09.420 Hell yeah.

00:14:10.420 I don't want to hitchhike in America anymore because like, I think either the, the people

00:14:13.420 picking up hitchhikers were like killing the hitchhikers or the hitchhikers were killing

00:14:16.420 the people.

00:14:17.420 But it became like that.

00:14:18.420 That really, that became like a real, you see Wolf Creek that a few years ago.

00:14:22.420 Yeah.

00:14:23.420 I think that kind of ended hitchhiking in Australia for a good decade or two.

00:14:27.420 Yeah, dude.

00:14:28.420 Do motion pictures realize that they just one motion picture about something ruins the ability

00:14:34.420 to get somewhere across a continent that ruined hitchhiking and Jaws ruined the whole

00:14:38.420 ocean experience.

00:14:39.420 Oh God.

00:14:40.420 Yeah.

00:14:41.420 I had on hitchhiking.

00:14:42.420 I was in Vancouver once.

00:14:43.420 I was shooting a movie there like 15 years ago and driving back from, from Whistler.

00:14:48.420 And it was like seven, eight o'clock at night and picked up a hitchhiker and thought,

00:14:52.420 oh, you're so good.

00:14:53.420 And it started to get real sort of creepy and starts kind of asking me like, what are

00:14:58.420 you doing?

00:14:59.420 Where are you from?

00:15:00.420 And what are you up to?

00:15:01.420 And like getting a little too sort of personal and where are you staying and whatever.

00:15:04.420 So I immediately start kind of, you know, filling in sort of, yeah, I just do heaps

00:15:08.420 of martial arts and, you know, a lot of, a lot of jujitsu and a big background in boxing

00:15:12.420 and, you know, tell them like fight stories and seeing if that's going to sort of like

00:15:15.420 sway the, sway the thing.

00:15:17.420 And, uh, thankfully nothing happened.

00:15:19.420 But it was that, that like moment where you're sizing each other up going, well, this,

00:15:23.420 I don't know anything about you and you don't know anything about me.

00:15:25.420 And we could be, how does this go?

00:15:27.420 Yeah.

00:15:28.420 Like, how does this story end?

00:15:29.420 Yeah.

00:15:30.420 You start thinking, yeah, how does this story end and what role am I going to play in?

00:15:33.420 Yeah.

00:15:34.420 Is it nice for a gun or whatever?

00:15:35.420 Yeah.

00:15:36.420 That is one thing that is nice.

00:15:37.420 I would say about picking up hitchhikers.

00:15:38.420 I've picked up a fair share of the years and, um, it's really like, okay, let's see

00:15:43.420 what God wants for me today.

00:15:45.420 Yeah.

00:15:46.420 Sure.

00:15:47.420 Mark Ruffalo.

00:15:48.420 He was at, we were at a music festival in Australia and, uh, just, you know, such a lovely

00:15:52.420 human being and picked up a couple of hitchhikers.

00:15:55.420 And then the next day I spoke to him and he goes, I got back like 7 AM.

00:15:59.420 And I was like, well, you left at like two.

00:16:01.420 And he's like, yeah, but I picked up these young kids and they were like, well, you know,

00:16:04.420 18 year old, nine year old kids.

00:16:05.420 And they were like, yeah, we're going in that direction.

00:16:07.420 And I didn't have the heart to tell them I was going the other direction.

00:16:09.420 So I ended up going this like four hour detour.

00:16:12.420 But, uh, that's big hearted.

00:16:13.420 That's, that's it.

00:16:14.420 That's a Ruffalo.

00:16:15.420 Yeah.

00:16:16.420 I mean, that's also insane to be driving with children that far.

00:16:19.420 That seems very old, nine year old from a festival.

00:16:22.420 Okay.

00:16:23.420 They were the sort of young folk and, uh, yeah.

00:16:26.420 Schoolies.

00:16:27.420 They call them, eh?

00:16:28.420 Yeah.

00:16:29.420 Yeah.

00:16:30.420 Schoolies.

00:16:31.420 And then the toolies are the, the older ones hanging around, which, which, where they're

00:16:34.420 not the, uh, they're the older age kind of creeps that are hanging around.

00:16:37.420 Oh, they call them toolies.

00:16:38.420 Oh, that's good.

00:16:39.420 Yeah.

00:16:40.420 Oh yeah.

00:16:41.420 Cause they should have a trade by that point.

00:16:42.420 So they should, they should have a job and not be hanging around 18 year olds.

00:16:45.420 Yeah.

00:16:46.420 Pick up a hammer, you know, do something.

00:16:48.420 Um, was there, was there kind of a point where you started to like, I think it's interesting

00:16:52.420 what you said about, you know, you get to certain moments and you kind of like, you're

00:16:57.420 like, okay, what's going on now?

00:16:59.420 Yeah.

00:17:00.420 It's kind of like you're in life.

00:17:01.420 A lot of times it does feel like that.

00:17:02.420 And recently I think it's been like that for me where it's like, I feel like you're underwater

00:17:05.420 water for a long time and not in a bad way or anything.

00:17:08.420 You're just, you're in the mix of life and you're doing things.

00:17:10.420 And then you get to a point, you're like, okay, let me come up and see what's going on.

00:17:14.420 And why am I, why like, what goals did I set and where am I now?

00:17:19.420 And then what do, where do I want to be next or what are things are important to me now?

00:17:24.420 You know, or like how I, you know, what strokes do I want to use next in my life to get me to

00:17:28.420 where I want to be, um, at the next checkpoint sort of for sure.

00:17:32.420 Yeah.

00:17:33.420 And I feel, um, has it been like kind of a recent thing that's been going on?

00:17:36.420 Definitely.

00:17:37.420 Definitely.

00:17:38.420 Yeah.

00:17:39.420 This, um, this book called the middle passage, which is, you know, a gentler term for a midlife

00:17:44.420 crisis, like James Hollis and it's, it's, it's Jungian psychology and it's beautiful

00:17:49.420 because it talks about, you know, the sort of personification of self and, and, and, and

00:17:55.420 the, and this, uh, you know, the gathering of, um, our identity as children and due to our,

00:18:00.420 you know, family bonds and ties, societal expectations.

00:18:05.420 It could be religious community, whatever.

00:18:07.420 And, uh, and you go through life attempting to present what you think the world wants from

00:18:13.420 you.

00:18:14.420 Some of it, you may have, um, some input in as far as what you want, but a lot of it is

00:18:18.420 kind of an assembling to fit in.

00:18:21.420 And then you get to this certain point, usually around your thirties, forties, where that,

00:18:25.420 that, that mask, that personification starts to wear thin and doesn't, doesn't hold up.

00:18:30.420 And there's this inner protest.

00:18:32.420 And, and, and Jung talks about the, from this, from the soul of the psyche rises up and says,

00:18:37.420 there's a deeper truth here and a meaning.

00:18:39.420 And what is it?

00:18:40.420 And what is my contribution?

00:18:41.420 And it usually comes around like when it, or people find themselves in a place of servitude

00:18:47.420 to something outside of themselves, you know?

00:18:49.420 And it's like, you, you, you service yourself for, for so long and as a sort of survival

00:18:56.420 and to, to, um, to, you know, maintain a position in the workforce and so on.

00:19:02.420 And then all of a sudden it's like, there's something deeper that I haven't answered.

00:19:07.420 And, and I, I find, and, and your purpose even shifts around like the why for doing things,

00:19:13.420 you know, like it might purely be, you know, I was saying this before, but the sort of purity

00:19:18.420 around your motivations and, you know, what is, what is your, what is your heart saying?

00:19:22.420 What is your passion?

00:19:23.420 That's all very well, but you got to pay the bills.

00:19:26.420 And so to be sort of financially motivated for a period of your life and to take care

00:19:30.420 of folks and family and so on, one thing.

00:19:32.420 And then, okay, that's, that's, that's sort of now, that's in a safe place.

00:19:37.420 That's in a safe place.

00:19:38.420 And what's the next thing?

00:19:39.420 And, um, and it's, I, I think you, if you, if you're lucky enough to find that thing

00:19:44.420 that speaks to you on a sort of a deeper level, but also allows you to function and operate

00:19:51.420 in the world and be sort of financially secure, then, then great.

00:19:54.420 Um, but I sort of find myself bouncing around with those questions a lot more than I ever

00:20:00.420 have and a lot more sort of indecision and a lot more, I had this sort of not naive, but

00:20:06.420 pretty strong sort of, um, relentless confidence and pursuit when everything I was doing and

00:20:13.420 I was going to, and it was when things were as far out of reach as possible.

00:20:18.420 Dude, same.

00:20:19.420 That's what I had.

00:20:20.420 All of a sudden you sort of arrive and you have these things that were going to bring

00:20:23.420 you all of that fulfillment and you, they do momentarily.

00:20:27.420 And then you start to come up short and you're like, God, what is it?

00:20:30.420 There's this, there's this other sort of burning desire or voice that requires attention.

00:20:35.420 And, and it, and that, you know, is around, I think solitude and sort of a slight separation

00:20:42.420 from the busyness of, of sort of life and work and all the trappings to answer some of

00:20:47.420 those questions.

00:20:48.420 And none of, you know, I haven't come to any sort of finite conclusion, but I, I find the

00:20:52.420 more I enjoy the mystery of that question and, and, and the seeking and the adventure and

00:20:58.420 that the path that that takes you on, then with, without an attachment to an outcome, I've

00:21:04.420 found myself a lot happier.

00:21:07.420 The better off you are.

00:21:08.420 Yeah.

00:21:09.420 And a lot more at peace with the, the ebb and flow and things, however rapid that pendulum

00:21:13.420 may be swinging.

00:21:14.420 Yeah.

00:21:15.420 Yeah.

00:21:16.420 I want to know.

00:21:17.420 That's the thing.

00:21:18.420 Sometimes I just want it.

00:21:19.420 Like, I want to know, and I want to know now.

00:21:20.420 And I want to know, like sometimes for my own safety, it's like, yeah.

00:21:23.420 Cause I don't want to be in limbo, you know, but yeah, I think having that space of like,

00:21:28.420 yeah, what of embracing the, okay.

00:21:31.420 I don't know right now.

00:21:32.420 Yeah.

00:21:33.420 And may, and that's okay.

00:21:34.420 And that is what is going on and let me enjoy this somehow.

00:21:39.420 And living in the questions, not the answers, you know, this sort of, I think that there's

00:21:43.420 a danger in definitive, you know, there's a sort of almost a lack of humility in that

00:21:48.420 too.

00:21:49.420 And this is where all of our sort of problems arise is my voice is correct.

00:21:54.420 And yours is incorrect.

00:21:55.420 And mine versus yours, but allowing there to be a mystery questions, curiosity.

00:22:01.420 And I think then there's an abundance of opportunity to, to learn that the new things

00:22:07.420 start to come your way.

00:22:08.420 Whereas soon as I kind of go, I've got it.

00:22:10.420 I've figured it out.

00:22:11.420 And I put it in a box or myself or other people or scenarios, the world just obliterates

00:22:17.420 that immediately.

00:22:18.420 And then you're left with that disappointment.

00:22:20.420 And it's that expectation that I'm going to figure it out is I think, is I think that

00:22:27.420 the trapping, you know, and, and so, but there's takes real courage and bravery in, in the surrendering

00:22:32.420 to that and, and the willingness just to go, wow, this, this sort of, you know, universal

00:22:39.420 kind of cosmic dance or this adventure we're on is supposed to be fun.

00:22:45.420 And, and the sort of the most serious thing you can do is not take it serious, you know?

00:22:50.420 Yeah.

00:22:51.420 And I find myself, the polarity of things coming back to this all the time going, okay, but

00:22:59.420 what does that mean?

00:23:00.420 And then there's that brief sort of moment of stillness of, I don't know.

00:23:04.420 And it's just being okay with the, I don't know.

00:23:06.420 Yeah.

00:23:07.420 Yeah, dude.

00:23:08.420 So a lot of times like, yeah, like when it comes to like, um, feeling just kind of in

00:23:13.420 the world and in between spaces and uncertain, I want, it's almost like, you know, when you're

00:23:17.420 a kid and you run and you want to get your foot on the base.

00:23:19.420 Yeah.

00:23:20.420 It's like, that's how I want to just have, I want to have my foot on a base.

00:23:22.420 I want to have something that feels like it's certain, or at least like as certain for like,

00:23:26.420 as a kid waiting on for like, I just want to know that's where I have to be as opposed

00:23:31.420 to being like, I'm going to stand here while the third basement and the shortstop throw

00:23:35.420 the ball back and forth and I'm going to be the guy in the middle.

00:23:38.420 And I'm going to enjoy that because the truth is as a viewer, and I'm just using like baseball

00:23:43.420 analogy, the best part of the viewing is you start to smile when that guy is in between

00:23:48.420 the short second and third baseman and they're throwing the ball and you're like, how's this

00:23:51.420 going to go?

00:23:52.420 Yeah, for sure.

00:23:53.420 That's really where the most joy kind of is.

00:23:55.420 And that's the, the anticipation, the mystery, the sort of immersion in the adventure.

00:23:59.420 And it's like, you know, that's why we pick up books and we want to flick to the end.

00:24:03.420 We want to know what the end is and same with life.

00:24:05.420 And then you get to the end and you're like, oh, geez, actually, it was all the tropey

00:24:09.420 things you've heard before that, you know, the journey, not the destination, so on.

00:24:13.420 And I think that, um, and I wrestle with that all the time.

00:24:17.420 And then, but I've gotten better with understanding that I might have a handle on it today and

00:24:22.420 I won't tomorrow and that's okay.

00:24:24.420 You know, as opposed to kind of just needing that definitive, like, what is it about?

00:24:30.420 But I mean, if we, if we knew, if there was, you know, the, the reason we, um,

00:24:34.420 you know, the, the sort of understanding of our own mortality is what allows us to appreciate

00:24:41.420 and love things, you know, without a sort of conclusion at some point and an end to

00:24:45.420 it, there wouldn't be, we wouldn't even know it.

00:24:47.420 We wouldn't appreciate anything.

00:24:48.420 Right.

00:24:49.420 What would life be then?

00:24:50.420 Yeah.

00:24:51.420 Without loss.

00:24:52.420 And then you don't know.

00:24:53.420 And, and so yet we spend so much time trying to figure out the answer or avoid suffering.

00:24:58.420 Yet there, you know, the, the, the, the joy and the love and the loss is one of the same

00:25:04.420 thing.

00:25:05.420 And without this, you know, and, um, it's kind of, I do riddles with myself around it.

00:25:11.420 And I don't know about you, but I was a kid at nighttime that would kind of be sitting

00:25:15.420 there going, what is, what, what does the end of life look like?

00:25:17.420 And if it's just blackness, if it's nothing, what can I still think in the nothing or is

00:25:22.420 it like nothing, nothing?

00:25:23.420 Am I sort of, yeah.

00:25:24.420 Do I have any toys in the nothing?

00:25:26.420 Am I a little like, like talk to someone still?

00:25:28.420 Or is it just like, is it just black?

00:25:29.420 Yeah.

00:25:30.420 Is there a lunchable, you know, like, yeah.

00:25:32.420 Like tell me, just tell me that the nothing has lunchables dude.

00:25:35.420 Yeah.

00:25:36.420 Dude, that's crazy, bro.

00:25:37.420 I'm realizing that you're like a smart guy stuck in a good looking guy.

00:25:42.420 You're not like a good looking guy.

00:25:44.420 That's just like, you know, sorry.

00:25:46.420 And that's a judgment, dude, but you know, sorry.

00:25:49.420 That was just like a judgment.

00:25:51.420 A lot of questions.

00:25:53.420 Yeah.

00:25:54.420 That's a good way to be, man.

00:25:55.420 I just, yeah.

00:25:56.420 Sometimes I want to be at the end of the sentence.

00:25:57.420 So I feel safe, you know?

00:25:59.420 Yeah.

00:26:00.420 I just want to like, uh, it gets scary.

00:26:02.420 I was just talking with, um, we just had Kevin James on and we're talking about like,

00:26:07.420 even like, uh, like if, especially like if I'm in a relationship or like.

00:26:11.420 With women or even just sometimes a buddy and stuff.

00:26:14.420 I will, if there's quiet, it's like downtime.

00:26:16.420 If it's silent, I'll just start being like, what else is going on?

00:26:20.420 Like I'll have to fill it in.

00:26:22.420 You know, I, it's like, I won't.

00:26:24.420 I, it's hard for me to leave the opportunity for something different to bloom, but then I crave there to be like, like whimsy and unique experiences and stuff like that.

00:26:34.420 So I think this conversation is neat just to even have a thought about that.

00:26:39.420 Because I think even just talking about this will be a reminder of like, next time I'm in some of those moments, like, let me just see what happens to you.

00:26:46.420 Yeah.

00:26:47.420 You know?

00:26:48.420 Have you ever read anything about Alan Watts?

00:26:51.420 I see.

00:26:52.420 I hear a lot of his like audio and stuff.

00:26:53.420 Yeah.

00:26:54.420 My mom always sends it to me.

00:26:55.420 It's this beautiful thing about love and about the idea of like falling in love, the absurdity of falling.

00:27:01.420 And he said, it's, you know, people say, oh, it's crazy to fall in love, but how, um, but, but the act of falling is a risk in itself and a surrender.

00:27:10.420 You don't say rising to love.

00:27:11.420 And so anything that's worth pursuing that, that has, you know, that brings comfort and love and joy and whatever, there is an act of surrender that occurs at some point.

00:27:20.420 And, and that, that, that, that again, in the sort of being okay with the unknown, that gives me sort of comfort.

00:27:28.420 That's, there's something.

00:27:29.420 That's a good point too.

00:27:30.420 Yeah.

00:27:31.420 It's falling.

00:27:32.420 It's like, you don't rise to love, you fall to love.

00:27:33.420 I think that's a beautiful quote.

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00:29:34.420 When you get to places where you are trying to find more time for peace, I know you had a documentary you did called Limitless.

00:29:43.420 Yeah, yeah.

00:29:44.420 And I know you have your new movie, Crime 101.

00:29:46.420 And we want to talk about some of that.

00:29:48.420 I watched it last night.

00:29:49.420 Oh, cool.

00:29:51.420 But yeah, was there stuff that you learned?

00:29:54.420 Because Limitless is about you kind of experiencing different things to challenge yourself.

00:29:58.420 Is that a good thing to say?

00:29:59.420 Yeah, I've done two seasons of it.

00:30:02.420 And then I did an individual episode with my dad.

00:30:05.420 But it was a show about longevity and the science of longevity.

00:30:08.420 In the first season, I was very much the guinea pig in the name of science.

00:30:13.420 Then I would be thrown into an episode on cold water exposure.

00:30:17.420 Let's show the benefits.

00:30:18.420 And you can swim in the Arctic for five minutes and try and survive.

00:30:22.420 Or you can, you know, the benefits of muscle mass for the brain and we'll do a strength episode.

00:30:27.420 So climb a 200 meter damn wall.

00:30:29.420 And so it was all these kind of, you know, pretty extreme examples of representing the science we were talking about.

00:30:38.420 The second season, I had a bit more agency with and it was great.

00:30:41.420 And I was less of a guinea pig and I had a bit more of a sort of educated opinion around each topic.

00:30:48.420 But I wouldn't say I set out to do it for, I didn't know.

00:30:52.420 It was just sort of came my way and sound like a fun thing to do.

00:30:55.420 And yeah, it seems really interesting to go through those moments and just to like almost have a buffet of things.

00:30:59.420 You're like, I'm going to try these and see what it's like.

00:31:01.420 What was your, one of your biggest takeaways from it?

00:31:03.420 Like as a practice for yourself, if there were any, or was there enough of an experience there even to have a, like,

00:31:08.420 or was it too much of a production to take away something that was-

00:31:11.420 Oh no, there was a lot.

00:31:12.420 A profound effect on me, especially the second season and the first season without me realizing what was occurring.

00:31:18.420 Like there was all the obvious things about, you know, strength training and, you know, cognitive health and cold water,

00:31:25.420 hot exposure, you know, fasting and so on.

00:31:29.420 But the episode I did with my dad called A Road Trip To Remember was the most profound one

00:31:35.420 because he, he was diagnosed with Alzheimer's about four or five years ago.

00:31:40.420 And he was genetically predisposed to it, right?

00:31:42.420 Yeah.

00:31:43.420 He and your mom.

00:31:44.420 Yeah. And that's how we found out.

00:31:45.420 Cause I, I did my blood work on that, on that show and found out that I had two copies of the APOE4 gene,

00:31:51.420 which is you, you get a copy from your mom, a copy from your dad, either a two or three or four.

00:31:55.420 And they both gave you a copy?

00:31:56.420 They both gave me a copy, but they both gave me the worst copy, which is the four, which meant I was a four, four,

00:32:01.420 which is like one in I think a thousand people have, but they, so I remember being with my dad and telling him about it and going,

00:32:10.420 oh, I don't know if this is a kind of a, you know, it's not a death sentence.

00:32:13.420 It's not a predeterministic gene, but it's like a big warning sign.

00:32:16.420 And he said, oh, don't worry, mate, we'll figure it out.

00:32:18.420 Yeah.

00:32:19.420 And how many times am I going to have to tell him about it if he's exposed to Alzheimer's?

00:32:22.420 But he didn't, we didn't know he was.

00:32:23.420 And then five years later, he got diagnosed.

00:32:27.420 And I remember sitting there telling him, don't worry, dad, we'll figure it out.

00:32:30.420 And, and, and so we went on this, this journey, this, it's called a road trip to remember.

00:32:35.420 It's this thing called reminiscence therapy.

00:32:37.420 We go back into your past, stimulate memories and experiences to stimulate the hippocampus,

00:32:44.420 which is the part of the brain that dementia is attacking.

00:32:46.420 Oh, dang, your dad's Joe Biden.

00:32:48.420 He's crazy, dude.

00:32:51.420 But we're spending time with him.

00:32:54.420 It was kind of a, it was kind of a love letter to him.

00:32:57.420 And we, it's not, you know, I was kind of hoping for a silver bullet to fix it, but it

00:33:01.420 became more about connection.

00:33:02.420 It became more about like the things I got to say to him and ask him about his concerns

00:33:07.420 and fears around the disease.

00:33:09.420 I probably wouldn't have asked him otherwise.

00:33:10.420 And so it, it forced this kind of really beautiful, intimate series of conversations

00:33:17.420 and, and gave him some agency, I think, you know, because they begin to feel like, you

00:33:23.420 know, they're a patient or they're a burden, you know, and all of a sudden this was about

00:33:27.420 him.

00:33:28.420 And I did, I watched the shift and, and, and the big one being social connection.

00:33:32.420 The most important thing I took away from both of those seasons was support group friendships

00:33:38.420 and connection and, and the people in blue zones, you know, the, where people live over

00:33:42.420 a hundred or the, you know, the most centurions in, in the population within regions around

00:33:47.420 the world, the commonality is, is having a wonderful sense of community and a wonderful

00:33:53.420 support network.

00:33:54.420 Um, and then whether or not they drank alcohol or smoked or whatever, it was like it, you

00:34:00.420 know, the, the, the, the lack of, or the reduction in stress due, due to support networks

00:34:05.420 and friendships.

00:34:06.420 Wow.

00:34:07.420 Well, yeah, they say that in recovery, I'm in a lot of recovery communities and they say

00:34:10.420 that connection is the, uh, is the opposite of, um, of, uh, addiction.

00:34:16.420 Yeah.

00:34:17.420 Right.

00:34:18.420 Yeah.

00:34:19.420 That connection.

00:34:20.420 It's like, yeah, I mean, I was in a meeting this morning, like a zoom meeting and it's

00:34:21.420 like, yeah, I'm sitting there just listening to guys share what's going on with them.

00:34:24.420 That's real.

00:34:25.420 Yeah.

00:34:26.420 And some of them say things that I've always wanted to say, and I didn't know I could,

00:34:29.420 but I couldn't make the words and then they made the words for me.

00:34:32.420 And so there's a part of me that like starts to feel like, okay, that's not a crazy,

00:34:36.420 pieces of a thought that you've had.

00:34:38.420 Yeah.

00:34:39.420 That's a real thing.

00:34:40.420 And somebody else has put it together for you.

00:34:41.420 And, um, but yeah, just being able to connect, they say is the opposite of addiction.

00:34:46.420 Yeah.

00:34:47.420 Bring that back up.

00:34:48.420 The blues ones.

00:34:49.420 I've never heard of this.

00:34:50.420 It's where the, there's the most amount of people who have lived to be a hundred,

00:34:55.420 lived to be a hundred.

00:34:56.420 Yeah.

00:34:57.420 And I think there's like Japan somewhere in Italy.

00:34:59.420 Yeah.

00:35:00.420 We got Okinawa, Japan.

00:35:01.420 Yeah.

00:35:02.420 Icaria, Greece, Sardinia, Italy, Nicoya, and, uh, that's Costa Rica.

00:35:08.420 In the United States as well.

00:35:09.420 Yeah.

00:35:10.420 And Loma Linda.

00:35:11.420 But you know, hold on.

00:35:12.420 There's none over by Australia.

00:35:14.420 You guys didn't get one?

00:35:15.420 Yeah.

00:35:16.420 I don't know if they, they skipped us.

00:35:17.420 Probably cause of the dangerous species.

00:35:18.420 The danger of the things are trying to kill us.

00:35:20.420 Yeah.

00:35:21.420 We're too busy backpacking to the places.

00:35:22.420 Yeah.

00:35:23.420 You guys are too busy over there making people happy in those places probably.

00:35:27.420 Blue zones are regions of the world where people have unusually long and healthy lives.

00:35:31.420 The many residents reaching age 90 to a hundred while staying relatively free of major chronic

00:35:35.420 disease researchers use blue zone to describe geographically limited areas where rates of

00:35:40.420 centenarians are far higher than expected and older adults remain active and independent.

00:35:45.420 That's a huge thing that they remain active and independent.

00:35:48.420 Still working as well.

00:35:51.420 Like still having some form of purpose.

00:35:53.420 Right.

00:35:54.420 Purpose is huge.

00:35:55.420 We talk about that all the time in here.

00:35:56.420 Yeah.

00:35:57.420 That if you people lose their purpose, then what do we have?

00:35:59.420 Do you ever read, uh, Man's Search for Meaning?

00:36:01.420 Viktor Frankl?

00:36:02.420 Uh, I have read that.

00:36:03.420 Yeah.

00:36:04.420 That's, you know, the purposeful suffering he calls it, but watching people in, um, you

00:36:08.420 know, when he was in the prison camp in Auschwitz, how, cause he was a psychoanalyst

00:36:13.420 or a therapist and he went in and people all under the same horrific circumstances environment

00:36:21.420 and why some people's body was, would give up and others wouldn't.

00:36:24.420 And it was often when they found out that a loved one or family had been killed or died,

00:36:29.420 they, then their spirit, their soul, their body gave up.

00:36:32.420 And so he, he produced, uh, Logotherapy, which was about sort of giving a purpose behind

00:36:38.420 whatever adversity you're facing and giving a sense of meaning to whatever the suffering

00:36:43.420 is you're going through.

00:36:44.420 But, but again, with the centurions, people, um, who it's not, not, not retiring basically.

00:36:51.420 And that doesn't mean work yourself.

00:36:52.420 There's difference between working yourself into the, into the grave, but also, you know,

00:36:56.420 it, you, the work could be, you have a garden to maintain.

00:36:59.420 Right.

00:37:00.420 Yeah.

00:37:01.420 You have grandchildren to keep tabs on.

00:37:02.420 You have a vacant, you have a trip to plan.

00:37:03.420 You're helping with, uh, one of your children's activities.

00:37:06.420 Yeah.

00:37:07.420 I think that a lot with my own mom, as she gets older, it's like, you know, I want her

00:37:10.420 to be free of things.

00:37:11.420 If she doesn't want to work, she likes to work.

00:37:13.420 She like delivers for Amazon and stuff.

00:37:15.420 She just loves it.

00:37:16.420 She's like, you know, I'll call her and she's like, I'm just sitting in the, uh, lot

00:37:20.420 of, or she'll deliver for like whole foods, different, um, just kind of chain places or something.

00:37:25.420 She's like, I'm just sitting here in the lot, just waiting for a, uh, for a route or whatever.

00:37:29.420 And I just, I just picture her in her van.

00:37:31.420 She's just sitting there.

00:37:32.420 She's 70 something.

00:37:33.420 And she's just waiting to, you know, deliver a, uh, catalytic converter to some guy across

00:37:38.420 town.

00:37:39.420 Um, thank you for bringing this up.

00:37:41.420 This is so fascinating.

00:37:42.420 I'm going to post off some of these just so we can, uh, that people know some of the

00:37:45.420 things from these blue zones.

00:37:46.420 Um, uh, despite very different cultures, blue zones share several recurring features,

00:37:51.420 natural movement, lots of walking, gardening, and manual chores built in a daily life, uh,

00:37:56.420 plant-based diet, high in vegetables, beans, and whole grains, um, strong social ties.

00:38:02.420 Like we were talking about a multi-generational living.

00:38:05.420 So probably having your family members around you.

00:38:08.420 Um, Tara Swart was in, she's a neuroscientist.

00:38:11.420 She's an author.

00:38:12.420 She's, she's fascinating lady.

00:38:13.420 And she was saying that, um, the, when you feel the best, a lot of people that feel the

00:38:20.420 best, when you have the best feeling in a home is when there's a lot of people in the

00:38:23.420 home.

00:38:24.420 There's like multi generations, like, uh, and those families often get the best sleep

00:38:28.420 because there's just like a, there's a connectivity going on.

00:38:31.420 Um, low chronic stress, just a few more of these blue zone, uh, common lifestyle patterns,

00:38:37.420 a clear sense of purpose, um, and generally optimistic, engaged attitudes in light, regular

00:38:46.420 alcohol or none.

00:38:47.420 In some places people drink small amounts of wine.

00:38:50.420 Um, in other places they avoid it entirely.

00:38:53.420 Like in Sardini, Italy, they got a, you'll see a damn six year old out there drinking.

00:38:57.420 Yeah.

00:38:58.420 You know?

00:38:59.420 Yeah.

00:39:00.420 I mean, that's the thing.

00:39:01.420 It's a lot like a, you know, he's like, Oh, I'll have a Chardonnay and some Peppa Pig.

00:39:03.420 You know, it's like, you'll see a five year old on his tablet ordering a damn Cabernet.

00:39:08.420 I know.

00:39:09.420 It's like, it's kind of, it kind of will be bad.

00:39:11.420 Yeah.

00:39:12.420 Well, I think this is just proof that there's ways to do it.

00:39:14.420 Right.

00:39:15.420 And then that this is document, this is like data that shows that there's ways to, uh, to have

00:39:21.420 a life that's the most comfortable if you can.

00:39:23.420 Cause it's sort of like, it, it's like the sort of, you know, stress being the biggest

00:39:27.420 killer and, you know, the cause of chronic disease and so on.

00:39:30.420 Stress.

00:39:31.420 I find like the amount of stress involved in the idea of achieving perfection or doing

00:39:36.420 things perfectly, you know, and I get asked all the time about like, you know, you must,

00:39:40.420 you know, never eat sugar or never drink alcohol, train seven days a week and so on.

00:39:44.420 And it's like, I had periods where I've gone into the extreme realm, but they're not when

00:39:48.420 I've been my happiest or my healthiest.

00:39:50.420 Yeah.

00:39:51.420 Like what do you do when a birthday cake comes?

00:39:52.420 I just smash it.

00:39:53.420 I love a birthday cake.

00:39:54.420 And what are you supposed to be that weirdo?

00:39:55.420 Yeah.

00:39:56.420 No.

00:39:57.420 What kind of life is that?

00:39:58.420 There's just, you're not going to enjoy and all the sort of, you know, the, the,

00:40:01.420 Yeah.

00:40:02.420 What do you do when a fricking, they're like, yeah.

00:40:03.420 Cause I'll do low sugar, you know, I'll do no sugar really.

00:40:05.420 But sometimes if a birthday cake comes, dude, what are you going to be?

00:40:08.420 Some guy just over there just, you know, just carving up a cucumber.

00:40:12.420 Who am I going to, you know what I'm saying?

00:40:14.420 Some dude over there just sneaking a carrot out of his pocket.

00:40:17.420 Just a little crudités in the corner.

00:40:19.420 Just a little bit of icing.

00:40:20.420 And that's not creepier to the kids at the people at the party is you're over there.

00:40:25.420 You tell me that guy's not stressed.

00:40:26.420 He's that's,

00:40:27.420 that's a huge amount of stress involved in just smuggling that carrot into the party

00:40:30.420 and then having to explain it.

00:40:32.420 Yeah.

00:40:33.420 Showing up at a kid's birthday party with a couple of carrots in your pocket.

00:40:37.420 Your pocket is way more stressful.

00:40:39.420 And you're right, dude.

00:40:41.420 How there's,

00:40:42.420 and there's a different stress of being the person who's sneakily eating.

00:40:45.420 Yeah.

00:40:46.420 Crudités as you called it.

00:40:47.420 Yeah.

00:40:48.420 As other people are enjoying a birthday cake.

00:40:50.420 Yeah.

00:40:51.420 That is a different type of like.

00:40:52.420 Well, so how many people do you meet who are, you know,

00:40:54.420 it's often with your grandparents and they smoke cigarettes and drank alcohol

00:40:58.420 and, you know, ate steak and eggs every day and they're living to, you know, 90, 100.

00:41:02.420 But again, just, and I'm not saying any of that is the, you know,

00:41:07.420 here's my top 10 tips to, to live longer.

00:41:09.420 But there, I think that that was in a time when you did have more family members in the house.

00:41:15.420 Have you just said like grandparents, cousins, everyone lived in this sort of smaller communities.

00:41:19.420 And we're also spread out now and I don't know about you, but like the, the, the,

00:41:24.420 in the last sort of five, 10 years worked really hard to bring my family kind of closer and closer.

00:41:29.420 And we all live in the same area for that reason.

00:41:31.420 Because it's, I think a lot of us grew up or definitely through history,

00:41:35.420 we grew up with bigger households with, you know, shared responsibility.

00:41:39.420 And now you have these little secular sort of, you know, houses where you don't even know your neighbors

00:41:44.420 and grandparents live somewhere else.

00:41:46.420 It feels good when your family's around. I know we were, or you know what?

00:41:49.420 There's layers to life then I think when they're around,

00:41:52.420 like there's nothing better than when you're feeling horrible and sad about yourself to be able to look across the room

00:41:57.420 and look at one of your parents' eyes and be like, this is your fault.

00:42:00.420 Yeah.

00:42:01.420 And you can't do that if you're at home by yourself.

00:42:03.420 You can't blame anyone if you're looking in the mirror, you know,

00:42:06.420 and then it's like your fault. That doesn't work.

00:42:08.420 Yeah.

00:42:09.420 And I think maybe we're going to be getting back towards that.

00:42:11.420 And we may not have a choice just because of like the cost of living and things like that.

00:42:15.420 But my niece just moved in back in with my sister.

00:42:17.420 Like, I don't know.

00:42:18.420 And things like that, I think it's kind of nice.

00:42:20.420 Like there is something that's fun about feeling like a part of something.

00:42:26.420 Even if you're like kind of a curmudgeon about it, like, oh, I live back at home.

00:42:29.420 But good for you.

00:42:30.420 Good for you. Absolutely.

00:42:31.420 There's plenty of time to sort of live on your own.

00:42:33.420 And good for you.

00:42:34.420 And to get to see a stepdad's nuts hanging out of his fricking undershorts once a year, you know.

00:42:39.420 Once a year, once a week even.

00:42:40.420 What a joy.

00:42:41.420 Yeah, dude.

00:42:42.420 The fucking Lord's mistletoe.

00:42:44.420 That's the best, brother.

00:42:47.420 With your father, how is he doing today?

00:42:50.420 He's good.

00:42:51.420 He, look, compared to, there are a couple other family members and close by folks that were going through

00:43:00.420 or had the same diagnosis around the same time who were in a catatonic vegetable state.

00:43:05.420 But he's, you know, he could sit here with us and talk to us and you might not even know.

00:43:09.420 You know, and you spend enough time and it's the short-term memories.

00:43:12.420 And then it's the wrong kind of stress that then is really evident, you know.

00:43:18.420 Like stress for him training in the gym and so on and solving a crossword puzzle, great.

00:43:23.420 But like not finding his keys and then, you know, losing things and then beating himself up about it.

00:43:30.420 Oh, yeah.

00:43:31.420 He's got a huge memory go really bad, but.

00:43:33.420 Wow, so stress is such a big activator.

00:43:35.420 Oh, it's huge, yeah.

00:43:36.420 He went down, he rides motorbikes and used to race motorbikes and went down to put some gas in a petrol tank

00:43:42.420 and then it wouldn't start.

00:43:44.420 And so, mum came, picked him up, went back home.

00:43:47.420 He got home and he said, yeah, I needed the key.

00:43:48.420 And she's like, no, no, no, it just didn't start.

00:43:50.420 And, you know, he got the spare key, went back down, didn't start again.

00:43:53.420 He's like, I can't.

00:43:54.420 And he did that three times for the day.

00:43:56.420 By the time that I was at work, I got home and I went and I said, look, I'll just come pick him up, pick the bike up.

00:44:00.420 I put the bike on the back of the car and he was like, all right, we're going to your place to get my car, aren't we?

00:44:05.420 And I said, no, they were taking your bike home.

00:44:07.420 And he's like, what bike?

00:44:08.420 And he had, like, twice in this 10-minute drive, turn around and see the bike in the back of the truck.

00:44:13.420 And that was as strong as I've seen it and as sort of confronting as it's been.

00:44:19.420 But then the next day, once that problem had been solved, he could sort of, there was a calm and it was better.

00:44:27.420 But he's doing good, man.

00:44:30.420 What's his name?

00:44:31.420 Yeah, Craig.

00:44:32.420 Hey, Craig.

00:44:33.420 What's up, Craig?

00:44:34.420 Yeah.

00:44:35.420 Cheers from the US, mate.

00:44:37.420 Yeah, he's a legend.

00:44:39.420 Good day, sir.

00:44:40.420 And what's his trade been his life?

00:44:43.420 He was-

00:44:44.420 Oh, a cattleman.

00:44:45.420 Well, no, he worked for, he worked in child protection for most of his career.

00:44:49.420 And then when we went to Northern Territory and he mustered cattle, he was, that was just for, just a window.

00:44:56.420 Trying something different.

00:44:57.420 Trying something different.

00:44:58.420 Oh.

00:44:59.420 Yeah.

00:45:00.420 We were doing it.

00:45:01.420 And in the documentary, we end up back in the Aboriginal community we lived in.

00:45:05.420 And a couple of the guys, they called him, they said, he's a Chuck Norris looking motherfucker.

00:45:10.420 Because he had this long ponytail and he would like, you know, pull cattle down by the tail and tie him up.

00:45:16.420 I love a male Rapunzel.

00:45:17.420 Male Rapunzel.

00:45:18.420 There's nothing I love more, brother.

00:45:21.420 Oh, that's beautiful, dude.

00:45:23.420 And child protection, what exactly is that?

00:45:25.420 Yeah, he would, children who would, you know, neglect family violence, abuse, go into the home and basically have to, you know, assess the situation, present evidence to a court, talk to the police department and work out, you know, what should happen.

00:45:44.420 And is this child in a safe position?

00:45:46.420 Oh, wow.

00:45:47.420 And huge responsibility.

00:45:49.420 And, you know, I've watched the toll that took on him over the years when he just couldn't, there were certain things he wasn't able to fix, you know, and it was, and you do one, solve one thing.

00:46:02.420 And I feel like you, you know, have momentum.

00:46:04.420 And then the next day there's, you know, a big pile of other cases on the desk.

00:46:08.420 And so, but very much in service to others and has always been fiercely protective of kids as this sort of angelic sort of quality to his integrity.

00:46:20.420 We'll hire him.

00:46:21.420 He's ready and willing.

00:46:23.420 Look, I bet we could get him 30% of the vote right now in America to be our next president.

00:46:28.420 If we have somebody that's protective of children here, we'll take it, man.

00:46:33.420 And thank you for your service, Craig.

00:46:34.420 I think that stuff like that is so important, you know, thinking about, um, the wellbeing of children.

00:46:38.420 I think there's nothing that's more, uh, it's like the purest thing that exists in the world.

00:46:44.420 I think.

00:46:45.420 Yeah.

00:46:46.420 And, um, so thank you for your service.

00:46:47.420 We appreciate that.

00:46:48.420 Um, they just had a ban for social media.

00:46:51.420 Was it a cell phones in Australia?

00:46:53.420 Yeah.

00:46:54.420 I think we're the first country in the world that has had kids from 16 and under.

00:46:58.420 Yeah.

00:46:59.420 Australia has banned social media for kids under 16.

00:47:01.420 How does it work?

00:47:02.420 Yeah.

00:47:03.420 The 16s in Australia have been banned from using major social media services, including

00:47:07.420 tick tock X, Facebook, Instagram, YouTube, Snapchat, and threads.

00:47:11.420 Thread sucks.

00:47:12.420 They cannot set up new accounts and their existing profiles were deactivated.

00:47:16.420 Wow.

00:47:17.420 I wonder if they all had like a D day when they were all like gathered around a fire or something.

00:47:21.420 Are they all now like reentering different ages or, I mean, I don't know to what, I mean,

00:47:26.420 I think it's a fantastic thing.

00:47:28.420 And the idea of it seems perfect.

00:47:30.420 Yeah.

00:47:31.420 And it's execution.

00:47:32.420 I hope there's, um, you know, it, it, it, there's, it, there's a positive sort of navigation

00:47:36.420 through it.

00:47:37.420 Cause I'm sure, you know, my kids, I change the passcode on the phone or whatever and

00:47:40.420 they figure out shit and, you know, seconds.

00:47:42.420 They're like little, little genius hackers with all of it, but we try and keep them off

00:47:46.420 it as much as possible.

00:47:47.420 But, um.

00:47:48.420 So your passcode is often like handsome guy, 4,000 or whatever.

00:47:51.420 That's it.

00:47:52.420 So it's the obvious one, you know?

00:47:53.420 So.

00:47:54.420 Exceptionally gorge, male, seven.

00:47:56.420 Aren't I lucky?

00:47:57.420 You're special too.

00:47:59.420 Um, yeah, they, I mean, I, this, I, hopefully this takes off around the world.

00:48:04.420 I don't know.

00:48:05.420 I'm going to see what this says here.

00:48:06.420 Australia's government said the ban would reduce the negative impact of social media's

00:48:09.420 design features that encourage young people to spend more time on screens while also serving

00:48:13.420 up content that can harm their health and wellbeing.

00:48:15.420 I don't know any human that would disagree with that.

00:48:18.420 Yeah.

00:48:19.420 A study it commissioned in 2025 found that 96% of children ages 10 to 15 use social media

00:48:24.420 and that seven out of 10 of them had been exposed to harmful content.

00:48:27.420 This include misogynistic and violent material as well as content permitting eating disorders

00:48:32.420 and suicide.

00:48:33.420 Um, yeah, I'm curious what, uh, yeah.

00:48:37.420 Can you look up on, and this is perplexity that we use to look things up.

00:48:41.420 Large studies of more than a hundred thousand young adults find that each year of smartphone

00:48:46.420 ownership before age 13 is associated with higher rates of depression, like symptoms, suicidal

00:48:51.420 thoughts, aggression, and detachment, detachment for sure.

00:48:55.420 I mean, and to feel detached when you're already like in a place where you're growing

00:48:58.420 and it's, it's like your footing is uncertain.

00:49:01.420 Girls show particularly big drops in emotional resilience and self-esteem, um, cyber bullying

00:49:07.420 and harassment phones and apps mean bullying can follow kids home, which raises risks of

00:49:12.420 depression, anxiety, and self harm.

00:49:14.420 Uh, sleep disruption.

00:49:16.420 Big one.

00:49:17.420 Yeah.

00:49:18.420 Sleep disruption and body image and comparison, man.

00:49:21.420 Well, cheers to you guys for like leading the charge.

00:49:23.420 I think Spain just followed suit.

00:49:25.420 Is that right?

00:49:26.420 Oh, really?

00:49:27.420 It's where my wife's from.

00:49:28.420 Oh, is it?

00:49:29.420 Yeah.

00:49:30.420 We got a Spanish lady, huh?

00:49:32.420 Yep.

00:49:33.420 Yep.

00:49:34.420 Fiery.

00:49:35.420 Fiery is your wife's name.

00:49:36.420 Fiery.

00:49:37.420 No, I said Fiery.

00:49:38.420 Oh, she's Fiery.

00:49:39.420 Fiery energy.

00:49:40.420 Oh yeah.

00:49:41.420 Elsa is her name.

00:49:42.420 Yeah.

00:49:43.420 Elsa like the movie.

00:49:44.420 Yeah.

00:49:45.420 Frozen.

00:49:46.420 As of February 26th, Spain has announced to ban social media access for children under

00:49:49.420 16.

00:49:50.420 I don't know if we would ever do it here because I think we look at our children more

00:49:53.420 as, um, okay to be victims of marketing and capitalism.

00:49:59.420 Yeah.

00:50:00.420 Whereas in other countries they maybe, they don't, you know, I'm glad that Australia

00:50:03.420 is doing this.

00:50:04.420 Do you feel like, uh, it would take some getting used to, there will be this group that has

00:50:08.420 to be the one that loses it.

00:50:09.420 Yeah.

00:50:10.420 And then there will have to be the younger siblings of them that are like, oh, I wish we

00:50:13.420 had it.

00:50:14.420 If you'd get it to go for like a generation, I think it would, it would really play into

00:50:17.420 something beautiful.

00:50:18.420 A hundred percent.

00:50:19.420 It's, it's even like, you know, we were probably, I don't know, like the, maybe when the phone

00:50:26.420 first came on, like how old are you?

00:50:28.420 I'm 45.

00:50:29.420 45.

00:50:30.420 I'm going to die soon.

00:50:31.420 We, we, we all are.

00:50:33.420 We, we were kind of the, uh, the guinea pigs for it in a way, you know, like I remember

00:50:37.420 getting a phone and it wasn't an iPhone.

00:50:39.420 Social media.

00:50:40.420 Yeah.

00:50:41.420 Just, and all of it.

00:50:42.420 And so you, but we had enough awareness of what came before, like coming up now and

00:50:47.420 only knowing that that's, that, that exists.

00:50:50.420 And every time I try and tell my kids like that science around it, they're like, oh, shut

00:50:54.420 up.

00:50:55.420 You know, then there's, there's just no, there's no, um, comparison for them.

00:50:58.420 You know, whereas.

00:50:59.420 And that's the danger.

00:51:00.420 At least we knew the comparison.

00:51:01.420 We knew the comparison.

00:51:02.420 We knew the possibilities.

00:51:03.420 And we're still doing it and we're still ending up depressed.

00:51:05.420 And you know, I don't know about you, but.

00:51:06.420 But.

00:51:07.420 Oh dude, I noticed I've been off for a while and I'm feeling better, man.

00:51:10.420 Yeah.

00:51:11.420 And the algorithm.

00:51:12.420 Oh yeah.

00:51:13.420 There should be a, I've always thought there should be able to be like legal recourse

00:51:16.420 against an algorithm.

00:51:17.420 Yeah.

00:51:18.420 Yeah.

00:51:19.420 A system, like a, a vitriol for me to then go.

00:51:23.420 And now it's just my responsibility.

00:51:25.420 Yeah.

00:51:26.420 I'm nine minutes on, I hate a group and now I'm just back out into the world.

00:51:29.420 But also what that algorithm is created off a question.

00:51:32.420 It's not created off a, an opinion.

00:51:34.420 It's, I might have curiosity or ask the question about this particular thing.

00:51:39.420 And it goes, oh, that's, that's it.

00:51:41.420 And now you're on that, down that lane.

00:51:43.420 And that, that's the danger is it's, it's making up your conclusion.

00:51:47.420 You know, does it give you the definitive sort of, this is how you now should vote or

00:51:51.420 this is the way you should be opinionated or this is who you should like or dislike based

00:51:54.420 upon human curiosity.

00:51:56.420 You know, like you might not be, you know, one political party supporter, but you're having

00:52:01.420 a look at it next minute.

00:52:02.420 That's all you're seeing.

00:52:03.420 Yeah.

00:52:04.420 You're fully on board.

00:52:05.420 It takes you from curious to conviction.

00:52:07.420 It takes, and it takes you there.

00:52:08.420 You're right in the beginning.

00:52:09.420 I'm just like, oh, I'm curious about this.

00:52:10.420 Yeah.

00:52:11.420 But then suddenly you're for your next seven videos are about it.

00:52:13.420 And you're like, now I have some sort of a conviction, complete biased opinion about

00:52:18.420 it.

00:52:19.420 Yeah.

00:52:20.420 And they can even serve.

00:52:21.420 It's almost like, like, here's the next stair step.

00:52:22.420 Here's the next stair step.

00:52:23.420 Like they can do, you know, you're right though.

00:52:24.420 There should be like at, at bare minimum, they're not allowed to create an algorithm

00:52:29.420 that encourages one thing.

00:52:30.420 It should be, you have to continue to put that search in the search engine, as opposed to

00:52:35.420 it going, this is all we're feeding you now.

00:52:37.420 Cause it's all perspective.

00:52:38.420 It's, it's, it's like your version of, you know, one thing or my version of that is all

00:52:42.420 around what I've been exposed to.

00:52:44.420 There's no kind of right and wrong in it.

00:52:45.420 It's like whatever education that I've been fed by this fucking machine in my hand, you

00:52:50.420 know?

00:52:51.420 And on X, they have people killing each other.

00:52:52.420 Yeah.

00:52:53.420 That's insane.

00:52:54.420 No, my, it's, I mean, my kids were talking about certain, you know, horrific events and

00:52:58.420 so on.

00:52:59.420 I was like, where the hell did you say that?

00:53:00.420 And, and it's, it's, there's nothing to stop it, you know?

00:53:04.420 Oh dude.

00:53:05.420 Well, the craziest part is the other night I wake up, I'm like, I, for some reason I'm

00:53:08.420 like, you know, I'm obviously lonesome or whatever, but so I'm like on X or whatever.

00:53:13.420 It's like three 15 in the morning.

00:53:14.420 I don't even know why I'm on there.

00:53:16.420 I see two people get shot outside of a Wendy's.

00:53:19.420 Right.

00:53:20.420 They don't show you if people, if EMTs come, they don't show you that part.

00:53:23.420 It's just two people shot outside of a Wendy's.

00:53:25.420 Right.

00:53:26.420 And then the next thing is an advertisement for Wendy's.

00:53:29.420 That's it.

00:53:30.420 And I'm like, now I'm hungry.

00:53:31.420 I don't even care about the, it's like, I forgot.

00:53:33.420 Yeah.

00:53:34.420 Oh, it's fucking, it's insane.

00:53:35.420 And I'm like, well, do I need two bags of platelets and an EMT or a Baconator?

00:53:40.420 Yeah.

00:53:41.420 The complete sort of desensitization to something.

00:53:43.420 And then the immediate, the sort of bait and hooked into the product being sold is like.

00:53:47.420 And that you get taken from something that's so serious.

00:53:50.420 Yeah.

00:53:51.420 And it's something that's so trivial.

00:53:52.420 Yeah.

00:53:53.420 That it's like, it starts to like deteriorate the part of you that takes something very serious,

00:53:57.420 serious.

00:53:58.420 Yeah, for sure.

00:53:59.420 Yeah.

00:54:00.420 And for these kids, now you got to walk over there and look this girl in the eyes.

00:54:03.420 Yeah.

00:54:04.420 And see that she might not be interested in you, which is the genre that we grew up in brother.

00:54:09.420 Yeah.

00:54:10.420 That's right.

00:54:11.420 If you want to call somebody fat, you got to walk across town.

00:54:13.420 You got to say it to them.

00:54:14.420 Yeah, look them in the eye.

00:54:15.420 You got to see their big fat fist come and hit you right in your smug face.

00:54:19.420 Yeah.

00:54:20.420 No, and there's no accountability.

00:54:21.420 That's the other thing.

00:54:22.420 Yeah.

00:54:23.420 It's like the amount of like smart aleck, sarcastic sort of, you know, sentiment and tone I hear

00:54:28.420 from sort of my kids and their mates based upon the lack of consequence.

00:54:31.420 Like you said that shit in high school or school and you felt it immediately.

00:54:34.420 You went, well, a lesson to say, note to yourself, don't say that again.

00:54:37.420 Yeah.

00:54:38.420 Whereas now, now you're like plugging all sorts of things on, on your comment boards or you're

00:54:41.420 commenting on what other people have done with, you know, very little, if any consequence

00:54:46.420 or any repercussion.

00:54:47.420 Yeah.

00:54:48.420 Let me see what this says.

00:54:49.420 Instagram rolls out algorithm control option to all English speaking users.

00:54:52.420 Oh, wow.

00:54:53.420 After launching it in early testing with a limited number of users in October last year, Instagram

00:54:57.420 has today announced that all English speaking users globally will now be able to access.

00:55:01.420 It's your algorithm manual control option, giving you another way to define your reels

00:55:06.420 experience.

00:55:07.420 I thought it already did that though.

00:55:08.420 Cause I remember meeting someone who said, this is like eight years ago said, no, no, you

00:55:13.420 like, you know what you've, we've all, you know, you've said, you know, you've talked

00:55:16.420 about, you know, puppy dogs for a while.

00:55:18.420 And then all of a sudden puppy dogs all over you are real like, and they said, no, no, no,

00:55:21.420 they're listening to individual words.

00:55:23.420 And I was like the individual words, bullshit.

00:55:25.420 It's fucking the entire sentence.

00:55:26.420 But it, and now there seems to be a sort of, oh, that's an option, but I'm pretty sure

00:55:32.420 it's been planted from day one.

00:55:33.420 I'm sure this has always been an option and it's never been effective.

00:55:36.420 Yeah.

00:55:37.420 As you can see in this overview, you can access the, your algorithm controls by tapping on

00:55:41.420 the top.

00:55:42.420 What does it do though?

00:55:43.420 So I've been using it and I changed my feed completely.

00:55:46.420 I put on like editing tutorials, film lighting, and like my feed is like all educational.

00:55:52.420 Now it's helped a lot.

00:55:54.420 Yeah.

00:55:55.420 It's pretty awesome.

00:55:56.420 And I think more people should know about it.

00:55:58.420 Because yeah, I think sometimes my fear is that I'm trapped in this algorithm of times

00:56:02.420 that maybe weren't my best self or like times where I just, or, or just what they fed you.

00:56:07.420 Yeah, for sure.

00:56:08.420 You know, and you get fed brassieres and this and that.

00:56:10.420 And it's all targets big response, you know, big, it triggers big emotions.

00:56:15.420 It's all outrage mostly.

00:56:16.420 Right.

00:56:17.420 It's like dopamine or.

00:56:18.420 Fucking what's going to piss you off the most.

00:56:20.420 Testosterone, you know?

00:56:21.420 Yeah.

00:56:22.420 Yeah.

00:56:23.420 Yeah.

00:56:24.420 So Nick, you feel like it has been effective?

00:56:25.420 A hundred percent.

00:56:26.420 And then, but if I do see something, I'm like, I don't want that.

00:56:29.420 I just do see like the three dots and see less of, and it's really transformed it.

00:56:33.420 Oh, cool.

00:56:34.420 I feel like I'm getting educated when I go on a lot.

00:56:36.420 Yeah.

00:56:37.420 That's the place I want to be in.

00:56:38.420 It's like, ah, just for some, you know, get me there.

00:56:40.420 But I guess it's, I have to take some action too, you know?

00:56:43.420 But that's good to know that that's effective.

00:56:45.420 Yeah.

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00:57:08.420 Bounced on the hood, broke it out.

00:57:10.420 Windshield cracked it out.

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00:59:31.420 Um, I saw crime 101.

00:59:33.420 Oh, cool.

00:59:34.420 Yeah, dude.

00:59:35.420 It's a heist movie, right?

00:59:36.420 Safe to say.

00:59:37.420 Yeah.

00:59:38.420 It's a character driven crime thriller.

00:59:41.420 Um, somewhat of a sort of homage to the seventies, eighties, nineties, even early two thousands, like heist films that I feel like we used to see a lot more of.

00:59:49.420 And, and, uh, we just don't tend to make any as much so much now where, where the there's insane action and car chases and intensity, but that's matched by the intensity or there's a momentum and a continuity with the emotional intimate scenes as well.

01:00:06.420 And, um, and, um, and it was one of the best things I'd read in years.

01:00:09.420 Um, it, it, it, it, it, it certainly wasn't the types of scripts I was being sent and I had an interest in doing something very different.

01:00:15.420 And, um, just came along and, um, it was up there with my top sort of two, three films that I've done.

01:00:21.420 That you've done.

01:00:22.420 Yeah.

01:00:23.420 That I've been a part of.

01:00:24.420 Yeah.

01:00:25.420 There's kind of this, um, he's a, uh, kind of a, he's a bad guy that's questioning what's going on with himself.

01:00:34.420 For sure.

01:00:35.420 Yeah.

01:00:36.420 Like all of the, like, so Mark Ruffalo plays the detective.

01:00:38.420 I play jewelry thief.

01:00:39.420 Halle Berry, um, is an insurance broker.

01:00:42.420 Uh, and basically all that sort of a crossroads in the, on the, in their life, um, around, you know, the, the, the Mark's characters facing police corruption.

01:00:52.420 And, and if he speaks up, he'll be sent one way.

01:00:55.420 And if he follows suit, he'll, he'll get a promotion.

01:00:57.420 And Halle Berry is facing, you know, ageism and feels like she's being passed over.

01:01:02.420 And my guy is, is in that same sort of that moral ambiguity and that sort of gray space of, you know, justifying his criminal criminality.

01:01:12.420 Um, we show the audience and present the, you know, that he has, um, come from meager means, difficult times in and out of foster homes.

01:01:22.420 And again, not to excuse any of what he does, but it raises, I think the, the question of how one got to that point.

01:01:29.420 Um, but he does live by very strict code.

01:01:32.420 His, um, there's sort of nonviolent, you know, violence throughout his, uh, his robberies, but he's at a point where he's seeking personal freedom and an escape from this world.

01:01:43.420 And it's presented with this one final sort of heist, which is, could be the exit.

01:01:48.420 And it's each character sort of on a collision course for one another and all sort of interweaved to this pretty, pretty, uh, I found pretty sort of fascinating sort of crescendo and finale.

01:01:58.420 He, um, he's a good guy, you know, he's, he's wrestling with, I think not having, you know, in my sort of backstory with it, not having strong paternal figures or parental figures that they were of, um, you know, held integrity or maturity for him to look to.

01:02:13.420 And, and, and to be, I guess, modeled behavior by.

01:02:17.420 So, you know, like a lot of guys that we were speaking to and research guys in that, in the criminal world came from broken homes and you seek connection and brotherhood and safety and kind of all the wrong places.

01:02:29.420 And, and, um, it's why a lot of guys end up in gangs as sort of the, you know, there's family there that they had.

01:02:34.420 Yes. Connection.

01:02:35.420 Yeah. And then it's also, they're pushing back against a system that in their eyes gave them nothing. So it's like, well, screw you. I'm going to, you know, what did, what did the insurance companies or the banks or the, you know, the, the, the high end jewelry fashion, um, entities ever give me.

01:02:50.420 And so again, none of this is a, my justification for the life of crime, but I think that the script does a great job at presenting deeper, further layers and a deeper sort of, um, presentation about just people, you know, and the human experience.

01:03:06.580 I agree with that. I think that we, uh, one thing I noticed about it is there's a bit more of the story element. There's a bit more of like, you have the action, you have this sort of, um, you know, uh, you have this like a little bit of like, I don't know if it's like fast in the fury.

01:03:20.400 It's like serious meat, sort of, um, like jewel thievery, you know, sort of like you have this high energy, but you have us, you have some sincere storylines about what's going on with these people and, uh, and just how people get into positions maybe that they didn't even want to be in, but there they are.

01:03:36.220 And how do we still view them as people? And then how do they then operate to the best of their ability, even in not even the best circumstance?

01:03:43.420 Absolutely. Yeah.

01:03:44.380 Does that make any sense or not?

01:03:45.460 No, it did for sure.

01:03:46.380 Damn, bro.

01:03:46.640 That should have been the tag.

01:03:47.600 That's the most sense I've made in a while.

01:03:48.860 I've been impressed over the three weeks and I wish I had that, that, that quote.

01:03:52.800 It's been a rough, far more succinct than the, uh, the past year I haven't been able to get something out. It's been tough, man.

01:03:58.620 No, it's true. And it does, it's sort of, uh, I think when it, right, like it doesn't spoon feed or jam down the audience's throat, the answers and conclusions for things.

01:04:07.700 It offers up ideas. And again, in the, in the moral ambiguity space of right and wrong, it's like not, it's nothing's just black and white. And we love to sort of categorize things. It's easiest for us to understand.

01:04:19.680 And, but when you kind of get an insight into someone's life or into their backstory, you go, oh shit, if I was faced with that or I'd come from that, would I make this decision?

01:04:29.500 And if I had an opportunity that was, you know, lawfully wrong or immoral on one hand, well, could I justify it through this lens? And if it was going to pull me into personal freedom and escape this shitty position, I mean, would I do it?

01:04:43.220 And then, so you're asking those questions as you're along for the ride, hopefully. And, and, um, I, and I find that the kind of the beauty of filmmaking and storytelling is when you're not, when you're, when you're given as a choose your own adventure, a sort of internal process that can, that can occur with what your assumptions are, but also not, um, not being so quick to judge, you know?

01:05:05.760 Yeah. Cause there's moments you're like, oh, this guy's scary. Like your character where he's like, oh, he's kind of, he's scary. You know, he's dangerous. He doesn't care if people die, but then you see, well, he has kind of a code of his own and how he operates within this space. Um, you know, what he thinks of love, what he thinks possible for him. Um, yeah, it just had a deeper layer than just like sort of a smash them, grab them, like kind of like heist movie.

01:05:29.500 Yeah. That was the goal.

01:05:30.340 You know, it had a little bit of a James Bond ask in the sense of like, you know, some of this chase scenes and stuff like that reminded me of some of that energy for sure. And, uh, just some of the music that went with it. There were certain moments where it gave me some of that energy kind of, you see hate or, um, the Michael man and collateral. It was kind of like those types of films were a big, a big sort of comp where the, the action, it was the real realism and a grit and authenticity to it. But, um, you had complex emotional sort of characters along the way as well. So yeah.

01:05:59.280 You ever want to, you ever steal anything good when you were young? You guys ever steal anything?

01:06:03.420 Um, no, I'm low dart, a wallaby and sneak over there and run it out of somebody's yard.

01:06:07.720 A wallaby, did you say?

01:06:08.780 Yeah. Just put him down. You think one dart would take a wallaby down or not?

01:06:13.600 Um, it depends what kind of crank is in that dart. You mean like a, like a, like a tranquilizing dart or something? Yeah.

01:06:20.580 A dartboard dart.

01:06:21.620 Oh, crank. I'm talking crank. Yeah.

01:06:23.180 Yeah. Uh, yeah. They go down there. The wallabies are tiny. The big kangaroos. I don't know.

01:06:28.760 Oh dude. Not some of the ones I seen over there. Yeah.

01:06:31.720 Whenever we went to that place outside of Melbourne, uh, that was a big kangaroo park.

01:06:37.320 Yeah. Uh, maybe it wasn't, maybe it was outside of.

01:06:40.520 No, there's a, there's a lot. There's, there's, um,

01:06:42.960 Bro, we saw the one that's jacked. We saw the Nate Diaz one.

01:06:48.240 You ever see that video of the guy punching on with the kangaroo?

01:06:50.720 You didn't see that? Uh, the guy, the wallaby comes up to get his dog and he literally shapes up,

01:06:58.500 throws a left and a right and pop bang.

01:07:00.720 Just cause it's trying to, I think the wallaby is trying to attack his dog or it's got his dog in a headlock or something.

01:07:05.220 Um, but yeah, dude, we saw the one, we were afraid to move, dude.

01:07:10.440 I was waiting for like Keith Peterson to step in.

01:07:12.760 I was waiting for a UFC referee to come in and say to your neutral corners, you know,

01:07:16.820 I was waiting for Mark Goddard.

01:07:17.960 I mean, I don't know why I had this guy's, this is, this is, look at this.

01:07:21.620 The wallaby's got.

01:07:22.560 And who is that? Luke Bryan?

01:07:24.060 He's got the dog in a headlock.

01:07:27.600 Watch this.

01:07:28.040 Whoop, whoop.

01:07:28.820 Go on, ready?

01:07:29.260 Whoop.

01:07:29.680 Oof.

01:07:30.160 Jab.

01:07:31.580 It's like.

01:07:33.600 The kangaroo's like, what the fuck?

01:07:35.660 Is that Luke Bryan?

01:07:39.180 Oh, that's beautiful.

01:07:41.660 That's beautiful, dude.

01:07:43.060 That dog should have been able to get free though.

01:07:47.260 That's a big dog.

01:07:48.540 Oh, they're pretty strong, these things.

01:07:50.280 And they got little, little talons, big, big old claws on them.

01:07:54.000 Oh, dude, the ones, we saw the ones that were very scary, but I had such a great time in your country.

01:07:58.300 How long were you there for?

01:07:59.740 We were there for probably two weeks, dude.

01:08:01.460 One of my favorite times was like, um, we've got some, uh, just some e-bikes and we went during the day.

01:08:08.140 We would go up and down the Gold Coast on the, you could, you could bike on the sand, like basically in the water if you want.

01:08:13.340 And there would be nobody out there all day.

01:08:15.960 And we would just, dude, it was like, it almost felt like we were on another planet, man.

01:08:19.800 Yeah.

01:08:20.300 And then, um, I got to meet Chris, Chris Lilly came out.

01:08:23.380 Oh yeah.

01:08:24.040 When I was in, uh.

01:08:25.140 Do you ever see his shows back in the day?

01:08:26.780 Oh yeah.

01:08:27.300 Fucking hilarious.

01:08:28.300 Stop looking at me dick, mom.

01:08:30.140 That's my dick, dad.

01:08:31.460 Man, he, what, he, he did that.

01:08:33.040 That's my dick.

01:08:33.780 Yeah.

01:08:34.460 Stop touching my dick.

01:08:35.600 Stop touching my dick.

01:08:37.160 Fuck you, dad.

01:08:37.760 What'd you say?

01:08:38.440 I said, I'd puck you.

01:08:39.260 I said, puck you.

01:08:39.980 Yeah.

01:08:40.400 It's a picture of my dick.

01:08:41.640 I said, look.

01:08:42.380 Yeah.

01:08:42.700 It would always be his dick.

01:08:44.180 You know, all the time.

01:08:44.900 That's his name, Jonah.

01:08:45.940 Bro.

01:08:46.320 And what a legend, dude.

01:08:47.800 To get to meet him, it literally felt like you were meeting something like a rare bird that

01:08:52.220 showed up on a branch to talk with you for a little bit.

01:08:56.080 I, uh, I remember crossing paths with him when I, when I first started acting.

01:09:00.260 You passed with him?

01:09:01.000 Yeah.

01:09:01.280 As in like, he was a mate of mine and crossing paths and, and just being, he was just a, what he

01:09:07.740 would kind of came up with was like, I want to say kind of back when the office was first

01:09:12.260 coming out, but that mockumentary style.

01:09:13.960 So he played like seven or eight different characters and, um, yeah.

01:09:17.800 Talented dude.

01:09:18.860 Oh dude.

01:09:19.760 Mr. G do the musical.

01:09:21.180 Yeah.

01:09:21.260 The musical.

01:09:21.960 Yeah.

01:09:22.600 A lot of it like kind of got bad habit for drugs, dude.

01:09:26.840 So good.

01:09:27.520 Oh my God.

01:09:28.520 Dude.

01:09:28.740 The fact that we can say it.

01:09:30.080 Welcome to Mr. G's room.

01:09:30.560 G's room.

01:09:31.220 Welcome to Mr. G's room.

01:09:32.400 Come on.

01:09:33.040 To the floor.

01:09:33.760 And still laugh right now is.

01:09:35.600 Oh my.

01:09:36.320 That is good stuff.

01:09:37.100 Yeah.

01:09:37.400 That was like pre kind of like, I think a lot of it was, is, is, you know, isn't acceptable

01:09:45.140 now that he wouldn't be able to make any of it now, but like that was before anything

01:09:49.440 and it was, I'd make it with him in a heartbeat, dude.

01:09:51.460 Give him a call.

01:09:52.360 I'm sure he's looking to make some.

01:09:53.620 Dude, people now would make it easy because you could put it out yourselves.

01:09:56.220 It's like, you could do it yourself and put it out.

01:09:58.700 I think it's in the sort of cancel space culture.

01:10:01.180 He kind of got cooked a bit.

01:10:02.000 I think he felt that more than it was very real.

01:10:04.340 Oh really?

01:10:04.920 Oh, I think so.

01:10:05.680 Oh, okay.

01:10:06.060 Yeah.

01:10:06.120 I think the reality of people.

01:10:07.940 Yeah.

01:10:08.300 Like, I think like, even like people, like, I think he was like, I don't know if he was,

01:10:12.680 if people thought he was making fun of Aboriginal culture or Tongan culture or what it was.

01:10:16.620 Yeah, Polynesian.

01:10:16.940 Yeah.

01:10:17.360 Polynesian.

01:10:17.880 Dude, those people.

01:10:19.180 I mean, I, it depends who you spoke to.

01:10:21.500 Yeah, that's a good point.

01:10:22.200 I had Polynesian buddies who like loved him and then other guys that were like, nah, it's

01:10:26.180 not cool, bro.

01:10:26.940 Oh, I see.

01:10:27.500 And, um, but I, yeah.

01:10:29.320 What's not cool?

01:10:30.220 Me dick?

01:10:31.240 You know?

01:10:31.780 But yeah, I feel you, dude.

01:10:32.680 It was crazy.

01:10:33.380 I love the way you've seen all that.

01:10:35.220 Dude, when he would do the break dancing, bro.

01:10:38.060 Oh my God.

01:10:38.980 And what was Jermaine?

01:10:40.000 Jermaine, the, uh.

01:10:40.980 Oh yeah.

01:10:42.780 Oh my God.

01:10:43.500 He's a year seven.

01:10:46.140 There he is.

01:10:46.940 It was so good, dude.

01:10:48.140 Yeah.

01:10:51.120 Oh, fuck.

01:10:52.220 Oh, God bless him, brother.

01:10:53.940 Go, go watch that.

01:10:55.060 For existing.

01:10:55.680 If you've never seen Summer High Tie.

01:10:57.100 Summer High Tie.

01:10:57.980 You can't find it anywhere except for on YouTube.

01:11:00.460 Yeah.

01:11:00.760 I think on some, like, distant channel, but it's out there.

01:11:04.420 Um, are there things where you want to, like, when you're relating with your dad, are the

01:11:11.540 things you want to make sure that he knows now?

01:11:13.280 Like, is there a responsibility that you feel as a child that it's like, okay, how do I make

01:11:17.700 sure he's okay?

01:11:19.080 Yeah.

01:11:19.320 Like, is it, does that make any sense?

01:11:20.960 Yeah.

01:11:21.280 And I think from having kids as well.

01:11:23.280 And even for other people that are experiencing this, like, since you've had experience with

01:11:27.260 it, like, if you could just maybe share a little bit of that.

01:11:29.180 So, so when I, um, had the premiere and in, uh, back in Australia, I had someone come

01:11:34.740 up to me afterward.

01:11:35.480 For Crime 101?

01:11:36.220 No, sorry.

01:11:36.860 For, for the documentary with my dad.

01:11:39.380 Okay.

01:11:39.640 For Limitless.

01:11:39.980 A Road Trip to Remember.

01:11:41.680 Say it again.

01:11:42.340 A Road Trip to Remember.

01:11:43.640 Got it.

01:11:43.920 And he, um, there's someone come up to me and he said, I was diagnosed around the same

01:11:47.860 time your dad was and I wish my kids could see this because no one asks me how I am or

01:11:54.280 what I'm, what I'm afraid of or what, what I'm experiencing because people are nervous.

01:11:58.700 They don't know how to discuss it.

01:11:59.600 So they dance around it and pretend it's not happening and he goes, so you suffer in silence.

01:12:03.200 And the biggest thing I think that has helped that my dad has responded to, and I'm thankful

01:12:08.400 for having gotten to this place is asking him how he's feeling about it, you know, because

01:12:13.780 it's, you know, you talk to your parents about this stuff and then your parents pass

01:12:17.300 away and then who do you talk to?

01:12:19.040 And it hit me that, God, he doesn't have his dad to go and have these hard conversations

01:12:23.960 or these, these vulnerable moments with or his mom anymore.

01:12:27.120 And, um, so trying to give him that, give him that space, but also I, I know there's

01:12:34.200 a, I remember 15 years ago that transition of when him realizing he wasn't the authority

01:12:41.320 and we knew we, as we, as you know, young men now working and knew more about things

01:12:45.980 and weren't seeking his advice as much.

01:12:47.620 I remember seeing that on his face and that, and it not registering enough for me to do

01:12:52.600 anything about it, but kind of being aware that like the changing of the guard was occurring.

01:12:56.980 And so I go to him now and, and, um, and I'll ask him things that I may know the answer

01:13:02.820 to, you know, or, or just so he feels like there is still agency and, and he has autonomy

01:13:08.920 and, and they, they want to see, thank you.

01:13:11.560 Um, they want to feel like they still matter on this purpose.

01:13:14.940 That's a good point.

01:13:15.580 You don't think about that, that when that changing of the guard happens, that there's

01:13:18.120 a, there's a value loss or potential like hypothesized value loss for the parent.

01:13:23.800 Oh, for sure.

01:13:24.920 And I, and I, even my kids, my daughter's 13, my boys are 11 and I'm already feeling that

01:13:29.820 like, oh, I'm not cool.

01:13:31.200 And I'm not necessarily who they look to.

01:13:33.580 And, and it's like, you know, and they're young, but it's still.

01:13:36.660 Yeah, they're watching Andrew Tate or whatever.

01:13:37.860 Yeah, they're watching all sorts of bullshit and have other role models.

01:13:41.180 But, but it's like, I think, you know, and then I'm, I'm 42, you know, but I can't

01:13:45.620 imagine in the sixties, seventies, when that, that gap becomes, you know, far greater and especially

01:13:50.960 facing, you know, having dementia and realizing your memories are being

01:13:53.600 stripped away and that vulnerability that just making sure they still feel like that

01:13:58.600 the, that they are of purpose and that they have an opinion and the opinion matters.

01:14:03.780 And so, yeah, if anyone's going through it, that would be my advice is check in with them,

01:14:08.340 ask them how they're feeling, ask them what they're afraid of.

01:14:10.620 Cause no one asked them.

01:14:11.240 That's such a great question.

01:14:12.200 What are you afraid of?

01:14:13.060 Yeah.

01:14:13.660 And I could just, yeah, it's easy to say, Hey, how are you?

01:14:16.320 Yeah.

01:14:16.580 But that's not the same thing.

01:14:17.380 And that won't bring out the answer.

01:14:19.040 Like I asked him on the show and he went, I just don't want to be a burden.

01:14:23.640 And it was like, Oh fuck.

01:14:25.400 And I had no idea that he felt that, you know, I thought it was going to be about the kind

01:14:29.420 of, you know, losing, you know, control of this and that and the other.

01:14:34.020 And, but it was like, he, he was more concerned with what it was going to do to the, the, you

01:14:38.700 know, the group.

01:14:40.420 Um, yeah, that's what my mom says.

01:14:41.680 Sometimes I don't want to be any burden.

01:14:43.080 And it makes me think like, Oh yeah.

01:14:45.940 Like, I don't know.

01:14:48.360 And in some ways I've always wanted my mom to be like a burden.

01:14:51.180 Like, I don't know, like the inverse of a burden, kind of whatever that is, like a positive

01:14:55.000 burden or just like, I don't know, like a beautiful responsibility or it's, yeah.

01:14:59.380 But for that to say, yeah, I don't want to be a burden.

01:15:02.480 Do you find that it gives you purpose though?

01:15:04.180 You know, like it's like having this time with him as kind of confronting as it's been

01:15:09.720 has also given me a greater sense of like what matters.

01:15:14.100 And also it's like the roles to transfer.

01:15:17.980 And at a certain point as an adult, you've got to realize, Oh, I now need to take care

01:15:22.400 of them.

01:15:22.860 Right.

01:15:23.400 And, you know, and especially men, I don't know, but in Australia, there's a real like,

01:15:28.980 you know, um, avoidance around that sort of vulnerability or the other sort of admittance

01:15:35.660 to, I may be afraid of something or I need a hand.

01:15:38.440 And so offering that up rather than having to get them to come to you and say, please

01:15:42.840 check in with me.

01:15:43.960 That's a huge thing.

01:15:44.720 Yeah.

01:15:44.860 What are you afraid of?

01:15:45.920 Yeah.

01:15:46.380 Yeah.

01:15:46.660 Because that's really what I want to know probably.

01:15:48.800 Yeah.

01:15:49.100 Yeah.

01:15:49.500 The other day I was thinking, like I, I messaged my mom and I was like, Hey mom, is there anything

01:15:53.400 that you need?

01:15:55.220 Is there any like trip that you've always wanted to take?

01:15:57.580 Is there anything?

01:15:58.340 Cause you know, now I have some finances where I could help do something, you know, or if she wants

01:16:02.620 to do something, you know, and, uh, or is there anything that, you know, yeah, is there

01:16:07.380 anything that you want, you know?

01:16:08.620 Yeah.

01:16:08.820 And she's like, nothing that I can think of, you know, whereas you always think that it's

01:16:12.760 like, Oh, I'm going to get these, like, I'll have the ability to do this thing and that'll

01:16:16.840 make it perfect.

01:16:17.480 But it's like, that's not real.

01:16:19.960 I always saw that.

01:16:20.620 Like I would buy my mom things and jewelry and she was like, it's lovely, but like, I

01:16:24.440 want your time, you know?

01:16:25.940 I mean, just yesterday she was like, can I schedule in one of your meetings to just get 15 minutes

01:16:30.500 just with you?

01:16:31.740 And I was like, Oh, and she goes, well, I'm sort of half joking, but serious.

01:16:35.220 And, and you forget like, yes, when you get busy, like, it's like, yeah, I'll get to that.

01:16:40.160 I'll get to that.

01:16:40.700 And, and all these other things, you can put it off on one of your other good looking

01:16:43.260 brothers.

01:16:45.620 Like, that's gotta be nice.

01:16:46.860 Like, look, talk to the other good looking brother, you know, dude, I bet you didn't

01:16:51.480 even have wallpaper.

01:16:52.400 It was just mirrors everywhere.

01:16:55.100 Just mirrors.

01:16:55.720 We're so excited.

01:16:56.440 Like he's coming, he's coming.

01:16:58.240 Sorry, dude, this is seeming a little bit gay, dude.

01:17:02.860 Whatever, bro.

01:17:04.140 Pull me a Foster's.

01:17:06.300 You ever drink Foster's?

01:17:07.700 I think I have.

01:17:08.740 Yeah.

01:17:09.080 It's the big can.

01:17:10.180 I like drink.

01:17:10.820 This is what I would do though.

01:17:11.840 I would drink it with two hands.

01:17:13.800 If I had a big old, like extra large absurd can for a while.

01:17:16.900 Oh, it reminded me of, um, of Sean and Marley.

01:17:19.780 You ever seen Sean and Marley?

01:17:20.820 No.

01:17:21.300 Oh, bro.

01:17:21.740 Bring them up.

01:17:22.340 They're Aussies, man.

01:17:24.120 Sean and Marley?

01:17:24.920 They're the best.

01:17:25.580 Yeah.

01:17:26.360 Get down with Sean and Marley.

01:17:27.560 Put me on there.

01:17:29.100 Show me on.

01:17:31.120 You never seen these guys, dude?

01:17:32.300 These guys are the best.

01:17:33.320 Chris, if you, bro, next time you're home, this is one of the best times I ever had in

01:17:39.100 my whole life.

01:17:40.660 Do you do this in Australia or here?

01:17:41.840 Yeah, in Australia.

01:17:44.500 How you going?

01:17:45.900 Very good.

01:17:47.080 All right.

01:17:47.580 Can you hug it?

01:17:48.620 Yeah.

01:17:48.860 Yeah.

01:17:52.180 Dude, they're chefs.

01:17:54.600 I've never seen these guys.

01:17:56.480 Thank you, boys.

01:17:57.280 Thank you for welcoming me here.

01:17:59.420 Yes.

01:17:59.960 Yeah.

01:18:00.380 I'm very happy to be here.

01:18:03.240 I would say this is very fun.

01:18:05.680 He come to us today and come see me and Sean.

01:18:09.820 From USA?

01:18:11.060 USA.

01:18:12.060 You've been to, have you been to America?

01:18:13.860 I can't remember.

01:18:17.420 Yeah.

01:18:17.640 I can't remember.

01:18:18.000 And look, it's becoming unmemorable.

01:18:19.940 I'll tell you that.

01:18:20.680 Get to the part with the beer, though.

01:18:22.260 We made beer chicken, right?

01:18:23.440 So these guys do recipes.

01:18:24.880 Bro, if you ever, like...

01:18:26.180 Yeah.

01:18:26.500 I'm not saying...

01:18:27.120 But this would be an easy thing for you to go and do a...

01:18:29.980 A little shower with them, a little cooking...

01:18:31.600 And, bro, they live at...

01:18:33.000 They live...

01:18:34.000 They don't live together.

01:18:35.220 One of them has Down syndrome.

01:18:36.560 I don't think one of them does, but one of them is just Korean or whatever.

01:18:40.300 Just mates or, yeah.

01:18:41.320 Yeah, they're just mates, but they've been French for a long time.

01:18:43.320 We made beer chicken, right?

01:18:44.480 How was it?

01:18:45.320 Oh, dude.

01:18:46.540 Yeah, it was good.

01:18:47.920 Yeah.

01:18:48.520 But Marley took the beer right out the hot beer and just drank it straight out of the oven.

01:18:56.660 Freaking legend, brother.

01:18:57.420 Put chicken juice and scalding hot temperature.

01:19:00.600 Look at that.

01:19:01.020 That can is probably 200 degrees, bro.

01:19:04.440 Whoa, whoa, whoa.

01:19:05.540 Your receptors is off, baby.

01:19:06.980 You got to come up a little bit.

01:19:08.980 Bro, he drank that bitch right out of the thing, bro.

01:19:12.060 But, dude, their families are so sweet, and they invited us over to their home, and they

01:19:16.640 made, like, up there, there's a piece of art up above, like, on the mantel up there on

01:19:19.840 the right.

01:19:20.740 Yeah.

01:19:21.320 Right there.

01:19:21.900 They made, like, a rat for, like, the Rat King.

01:19:23.720 Like, they did, like, special things to make it just for me.

01:19:27.180 But their families are there, dude, and it's, like, the best, and they have the best time.

01:19:31.340 But, bro, just to even...

01:19:33.300 It was honestly...

01:19:34.940 I think it was the best part of my trip besides getting to perform the shows.

01:19:40.020 Yeah.

01:19:40.280 But that's right outside of Sydney, I believe.

01:19:42.440 Yeah.

01:19:42.880 He's got a Rabideau's top on, which is Russell Crowe's rugby team, which is a Sydney team.

01:19:48.280 Oh, yeah?

01:19:48.540 Sydney team, yeah.

01:19:49.640 That green and red.

01:19:51.700 Oh, that must be the heroes then.

01:19:53.260 Because they'll go to a lot of the games and stuff like that.

01:19:55.300 But Sean and Marley are the best, bro.

01:19:57.260 They're all legends, dude.

01:19:58.420 Check them out.

01:19:58.820 And I think they still do the show all the time, so that'd be pretty cool to go see it.

01:20:01.720 But whenever you get into spaces where you're, like, you know, we were talking earlier about,

01:20:06.560 like, kind of regrouping and getting a new look at things and, like, you know, having

01:20:12.240 some moments of self-evaluation and reflection and seeing if, like, my old dreams are still

01:20:16.060 my current dreams and where have they gotten me and what do I do now and enjoying kind

01:20:20.620 of the freedom of not knowing or not being sure exactly where I'm at in my journey.

01:20:26.760 What are there practices that you go to to help you gain a little bit more clarity there?

01:20:31.920 Like, could it be something like just spending time with certain people or meditation?

01:20:35.140 Or, like, are there some practices that you use?

01:20:37.580 Yeah.

01:20:38.300 For me, I'm not great at, like, traditional seated meditation.

01:20:43.120 I could benefit from it if I was to sort of force myself to do it.

01:20:47.400 But I prefer physical movement, like training, you know.

01:20:53.260 Surfing for me is an obvious one.

01:20:55.760 Oh, yeah?

01:20:56.940 I've done that since I was, you know, 10 years old.

01:20:59.640 And if I spend too long out of the ocean, my whole sort of, you know, being starts to

01:21:05.440 suffer in one way or the other.

01:21:06.800 And not just vitamin D, but this sort of, I don't know, that sort of magnetic pull the

01:21:11.300 ocean has to me.

01:21:12.200 But that's my true happy place.

01:21:15.320 So, yeah, I've spent a lot of time surfing.

01:21:19.620 You're comfortable enough on a surfboard to make a gang sign, dude?

01:21:21.960 That is.

01:21:23.340 That's actually in a wave pool.

01:21:24.480 That's in Abu Dhabi in the mechanical man wave, yeah.

01:21:28.320 Have you been to Pipe?

01:21:29.960 Yeah.

01:21:30.700 Dude, I just went like two weeks ago.

01:21:32.260 I went 15 years ago once.

01:21:34.540 It's cool, huh?

01:21:35.260 Bro, it was so cool.

01:21:36.700 It's awesome.

01:21:37.180 I didn't know they had the Lexus pipeline competition was going on.

01:21:42.600 Oh, yeah, right, of course.

01:21:43.980 And so I went.

01:21:44.640 Big event, huh?

01:21:45.500 Each day when I went, it had been canceled for the day because the conditions weren't

01:21:49.220 perfect.

01:21:49.820 But that's one thing that's so amazing about it and makes it so unique about these

01:21:53.360 surf competitions is that it can only happen if the water is right.

01:21:57.120 Yeah.

01:21:57.760 So it was like, it was almost this little mecca that we'd make each day because it was about

01:22:01.200 an hour from where I was staying, which was silly.

01:22:02.880 I should have just stayed up in the North Shore.

01:22:04.640 Yeah.

01:22:04.800 But I get there and they're like, yeah, it's canceled for the day.

01:22:08.320 But it was just like, even seeing that and seeing like, oh, this is a real thing.

01:22:12.240 Like so many people come out and like, and they, all the surfers stay, are in this place.

01:22:16.540 And like, it gave me a whole different appreciation for it.

01:22:19.460 Yeah.

01:22:19.880 It's especially pipe.

01:22:20.880 I mean, that, that, that event is, they wait for it to be big and intense and, and

01:22:26.300 beautiful.

01:22:26.660 And, and, and if it's not going to hit those, you know, that, that, that, uh, if it's not

01:22:31.320 going to live up to that, they don't run the competition until it does.

01:22:34.260 And so you're often in for a pretty epic, um, week of competition, but, uh, that place

01:22:39.980 is talking about like the power of the ocean and different regions, you know, that you'll

01:22:44.200 have a, a six foot wave there, which feels like fucking 20 foot compared to what a six

01:22:48.900 foot wave would be at a beach break somewhere else.

01:22:51.020 And, and the, the way the ocean comes from big, deep water and just hits big slabs of,

01:22:55.960 of reef is pretty, pretty mind blowing and awe inspiring and special, man.

01:23:02.180 It's, it's cool.

01:23:03.020 Yeah.

01:23:03.120 You feel the power of it all.

01:23:04.660 Yeah.

01:23:05.200 Do you say have you ever surfed?

01:23:06.680 I surfed.

01:23:07.520 I used to live in Charleston, South Carolina.

01:23:08.960 I would surf out there some, so I could do it, but I would need to go focus on it.

01:23:13.040 Yeah.

01:23:13.320 I think it just like recently what I've been thinking is, man, I just want to like, and it's

01:23:18.600 like, I could do it, but it's like, um, you know, podcasting, it's a lot of attention.

01:23:23.160 You know, you're like going for the next week.

01:23:24.900 It's like having a show every week.

01:23:26.420 Yeah.

01:23:26.760 And so, uh, you're preparing and sometimes we do two a week now because there's so many

01:23:30.860 different people to talk with.

01:23:32.300 Yeah.

01:23:32.700 And so, uh, it's another skill you've got to learn.

01:23:35.200 It's another, it's a, it's a lot of hours.

01:23:37.080 Yes.

01:23:37.380 And it's, it's, it's hard to like, feel like I'm always like, um, all right, I got to make

01:23:43.540 sure this next one is okay.

01:23:45.040 Yeah.

01:23:45.400 I'm never at a place where I feel like, so it's like, I need to give myself a little

01:23:50.680 more space and grace and just be like, okay, if you do go for a week or two, go do some

01:23:56.980 things that you also want to enjoy.

01:23:58.540 You know, I do find it hard to switch off.

01:24:00.660 What do you mean?

01:24:01.060 When you, when you have, yes, I do find it hard to switch off, but I also find it like,

01:24:05.140 you know, like take some time and go do these, these things.

01:24:07.780 And I'm not complaining.

01:24:08.880 I know I can do it.

01:24:10.160 I think it's just like, it's like, we're talking about earlier, like having that space in your

01:24:14.200 life, letting the uncertain have a little bit more room to walk around, you know?

01:24:19.180 Yeah.

01:24:19.740 Yeah.

01:24:20.260 The observation, just stepping back.

01:24:22.320 It's like, it's like, what will I see if I were to go have some new experiences?

01:24:25.680 Like, you know, and, and, and then what will I learn when I'm a little separate and just

01:24:29.420 being like, that is as much of the value as being sitting here, looking under the microscope

01:24:32.880 is standing out of the room and, um, and not even being in the laboratory, you know, and

01:24:37.380 just like having some of that energy.

01:24:38.760 So I'm not complaining.

01:24:39.580 I know I can do it, but it's just like, um, that's some of it probably is a fear.

01:24:44.440 Yeah.

01:24:44.860 You know, no, it's, it's hard to get off the, the train of when there's momentum with anything.

01:24:49.380 And especially if you've been shocked by the handbraking of when it doesn't work out

01:24:54.100 or things are kind of static and you're sitting on shit behind the, or I was, had that type

01:24:58.360 of energy and, and so to sort of willingly by your choice step off is, is this, it, there's

01:25:05.760 a risk to that, but it also goes, it is kind of scary because it's like, there's a safety

01:25:09.740 net and just carrying on as, as exhausting and maybe detrimental it could be because you're

01:25:13.700 missing other things.

01:25:14.680 It's like the, uh, there's a risk involved, but again, I'm sure with you, you've found the

01:25:19.940 same thing in life when you've stepped outside of the bubble, the bigger lessons are learned,

01:25:24.920 the bigger sort of experiences occur.

01:25:26.520 And, um, I think I came from that place where that was the thing I loved the most, you know,

01:25:32.380 but it's okay.

01:25:33.680 It's all interesting.

01:25:34.620 And I think that's why, like, even just having time like this today to think about this,

01:25:37.660 it's like, yeah, we've been talking and we've been podcasting, but it's like, I think this

01:25:41.320 is a conversation that I just needed to hear, you know?

01:25:43.620 Oh, cool.

01:25:44.320 So me too.

01:25:44.920 I mean, it's like I said at the start of none of it I've figured out.

01:25:48.100 It's like, I just want to keep continually sort of asking and exploring and then hopefully

01:25:52.340 not being too bogged down and having to come up, come up with the outcome of the

01:25:56.200 definitive certainty of it.

01:25:57.380 It's just staying curious.

01:25:59.360 Um, I feel like is the, is the more fulfilling place to be in, you know?

01:26:04.260 Um, you're going, you're, are you almost back to Australia heading back home?

01:26:07.200 Yeah.

01:26:07.560 I have the premiere tonight, um, for crime 101 and then we, and I fly back home

01:26:12.000 tomorrow.

01:26:12.620 I've been gone for three weeks and it's, it's hard, man.

01:26:15.080 It's like with kids.

01:26:16.500 Oh, and they're here with you now.

01:26:18.060 No, no.

01:26:18.920 And they're at the age where it like, they weren't really aware of time, you know, for

01:26:23.540 a long time.

01:26:24.080 And now they're like, it pisses them off, you know?

01:26:26.800 And it's like, well, how long you said this?

01:26:28.460 And you know, I used to say, you're supposed to be here and you're never here.

01:26:32.020 And then it's like, it's not a dick, dad.

01:26:33.680 It's not a dick.

01:26:37.020 A dick, dad.

01:26:38.460 So looking forward to getting back.

01:26:40.020 Stop looking at my dick, miss.

01:26:40.920 Miss.

01:26:41.600 Touch my dick, miss.

01:26:43.040 That guy's crazy.

01:26:44.040 Bro, that kid was crazy to be saying dick that much at school?

01:26:47.180 Like 24-7 as well.

01:26:49.560 He's a wrangler.

01:26:50.240 He's a wrangler, miss.

01:26:51.340 Yeah, yeah.

01:26:53.520 Bro, wrangler.

01:26:54.880 Stop calling him a wrangler.

01:26:56.740 Well, he is, miss.

01:26:57.760 Why not?

01:26:58.180 Yeah, yeah.

01:27:00.600 Dude, and didn't his dad come down one time?

01:27:02.940 Yeah, his dad come down because, no, this is the funniest one.

01:27:06.060 So he does a drawing and it's basically a drawing of an image leaning over and touching him on the groin.

01:27:14.600 And he's just taking the piss and the teacher's like, what's this?

01:27:18.000 He's like, oh, that's me and my dad.

01:27:20.600 You know, so he comes down, the principal's involved, the teacher's involved.

01:27:24.320 And then they call the dad in and they're like, yeah, we're really concerned about, you know, what's happened.

01:27:30.020 And he goes, yeah, I made it up.

01:27:31.820 And then the dad loses his shit.

01:27:33.640 What the fuck?

01:27:34.720 What would I touch his dick for?

01:27:36.140 What did you fucking say?

01:27:41.060 Thank God there's humor in the world.

01:27:42.980 Oh, my God.

01:27:43.760 What else?

01:27:44.720 What else?

01:27:45.240 You know, if we can't laugh and have fun and enjoy the experience, what the hell are we doing?

01:27:53.100 What's the way that you communicate with your children or teach them to communicate that you think has been like a novel choice for you or something that you brought along from a place that you learned?

01:28:01.240 Like, has that been a practice for you to do that?

01:28:04.380 Because it just seems like you try to have some awareness about why you think certain ways and why you operate, whereas some people don't.

01:28:12.900 Is it even possible to incorporate that into some of your kids' interactions and lives?

01:28:16.760 You do, but I think the biggest thing I've learned is nothing I say is really imprinted.

01:28:20.540 It's like they learn by example.

01:28:23.680 And if I'm not modeling that behavior, it doesn't matter how many times I tell them, you know, do as I say, not as I do.

01:28:29.120 It's just, it's rubbish.

01:28:30.260 And so if I'm trying to tell them to get off their phones and so on or stop swearing and this, I've got to do it, you know.

01:28:37.280 But it, exposing them to nature, you know, like they're, and we lived in LA for probably 10 years.

01:28:46.040 My wife and I, before we had kids and then we had kids and we were here for about a year or two and it was like kind of chaos trying to do anything with the kids and paparazzi and so on.

01:28:55.180 And moved back to Australia.

01:28:56.880 And what pervert would take pictures of a kid?

01:28:58.800 That's the weird thing, you know what I'm saying?

01:29:00.500 Except for most of the people in our, you know.

01:29:03.060 Except this business.

01:29:04.160 Except for most capitalists and Hollywood elites.

01:29:07.120 Oh, it's brutal.

01:29:07.620 Who else?

01:29:08.180 Yeah, no.

01:29:08.980 And so we went back home and we just didn't get that sort of attention in a great way.

01:29:12.880 Has it been a good choice you made?

01:29:14.140 The best ever.

01:29:15.260 Like a big conscious choice to leave the environment that was kind of, even for my own personal sanity, like reminded of what I was doing or what I was not doing.

01:29:24.960 And so it's very hard to escape the kind of work, the thought process.

01:29:28.280 But for them just to, look, to expose them to what I thought was a normal, you know, upbringing and being as much outdoors.

01:29:37.120 And so we have a farm and they surf and we've got motorbikes and horses and, and look, what a luxury that is.

01:29:42.660 You know, that's not where, like we grew up in the, in the bush, but we had no money, you know, and now very different sort of financial circumstances.

01:29:49.860 But, and that's the trick is trying to teach them the same sort of appreciation and gratitude that I had learned by not having my parents, not having money, but now we're equipped very differently.

01:30:02.280 And that's tough to do.

01:30:03.580 It's a really tricky one, you know, but, but it's hard to teach your kids your same struggle.

01:30:07.700 Yeah.

01:30:08.400 And it's, so you try and expose them to sort of different situations or parts of the world, but it's also in sort of in discussing with them the, not taking it for granted and having gratitude for it.

01:30:23.880 Um, but also, you know, I talked to my mom about this all the time and she's like, I could show you, you know, whether on this pay scale or, you know, this end of the spectrum finance or not healthy and unhealthy people.

01:30:38.140 And it's about love and security and do they feel safe to explore this world and explore who they are genuinely, you know, and do they feel seen.

01:30:46.360 And so making sure we're there and present and when I'm not working, we're a hundred percent there and in your head's not somewhere else, but, um,

01:30:52.740 just getting them outdoors, you know, it's, it's, it's, it's the biggest thing.

01:30:56.380 They went to a school, traditional sort of school.

01:30:58.620 And then we put them in the school where it's just like 15 kids and three teachers and they surf for two hours in the morning.

01:31:04.060 And then they do like really focused learning for a couple hours in the afternoon.

01:31:08.120 And it's, it's kind of like homeschooling in a way, but they, they're absorbing that information more because they've exerted energy through the, through the day.

01:31:16.520 But there's less kids and more teachers.

01:31:19.180 So there's far more kind of personal interaction, but the, it's,

01:31:22.740 almost like sort of accidental learning where they'll, they'll talk about, you know,

01:31:26.600 their math class might be around shaping a surfboard.

01:31:28.940 So it's, you know, six foot two and 18 and a half inches.

01:31:31.640 And, you know, what, what's the literage and the volume.

01:31:34.180 And so they're calculating things where there's, there's an invested interest as opposed to just numbers on a board.

01:31:40.120 And, and, and, you know,

01:31:41.120 And has it been working well?

01:31:42.200 Good, mate.

01:31:42.680 They're happier than they've ever been.

01:31:44.180 Really?

01:31:44.460 They've been at school for a year and a half or two years.

01:31:46.840 And that's a blessing, man.

01:31:47.880 Yeah.

01:31:48.120 And a lot of people are talking about homeschool here more in America.

01:31:50.600 You're starting to see a lot more of it.

01:31:51.800 Yeah.

01:31:52.220 I'm friends with Candace Owens.

01:31:53.120 And she talks about this all the time is like, get your kids into a space.

01:31:56.880 If you can, where other like neighborhood moms or dads are also doing the teaching and people.

01:32:02.600 I'd be worried if it was homeschooling me trying to teach them, you know, that would be,

01:32:06.720 we did that in COVID and that was a nightmare.

01:32:08.840 And you were teaching them during COVID.

01:32:10.180 Oh, just all of us were being, every parent was being sent like the curriculum.

01:32:13.480 And it was like trying to teach them math, you know, grade five math that none of it made

01:32:18.460 any sense to whatever math I learned in high school 20 years ago.

01:32:22.160 And I was like, let's go outside and have a surf and, you know, we'll catch up.

01:32:24.680 Would you have a chalkboard or whatever?

01:32:26.200 No.

01:32:26.380 Oh, no, we had just like, it was, to get them to do the right one sentence was just

01:32:30.940 like World War III.

01:32:32.280 It was all three of them were just like constant protest and not listening.

01:32:36.020 And I called my buddy who was their teacher and I said, how are you doing it?

01:32:39.180 And he goes, mate, I can't even get my own teachers.

01:32:41.020 They're my kids to do it.

01:32:41.780 He said, let's just catch up when this thing passes.

01:32:43.900 So we had outdoor education, which was like, yes, adventure homeschooling hits record numbers

01:32:50.360 last year, last academic year, DIY education grew at nearly three times the average rate

01:32:55.060 it did during the COVID-19 pandemic.

01:32:57.340 So it's growing at three times the rate that it did during COVID.

01:33:00.600 That's unbelievable.

01:33:01.580 In the 2024, 2025 school year, homeschooling continued to grow across the United States,

01:33:05.820 increasing in an average rate of 5.4%.

01:33:08.360 Amen, dude.

01:33:09.660 I think the system in a lot of places can be contrived.

01:33:12.040 So to have some autonomy over what your children are learning, this is nearly three times the

01:33:17.880 pre-pandemic homeschooling growth rate of almost 2%.

01:33:20.320 Recent estimates put the total homeschooling population at about 6% of students across the

01:33:25.280 United States compared to about 3% pre-pandemic.

01:33:28.880 I wonder how much of that is like, you know, parents teaching their kids or a group, you know,

01:33:35.400 10 or 12.

01:33:36.200 Like I said, that's the problem.

01:33:37.220 I think it's class sizes are too big.

01:33:39.660 You've got one person for 30 kids.

01:33:41.520 It's like, God, fucking good luck.

01:33:43.080 You know, whereas having more of a sort of mentorship tutoring sort of program where

01:33:47.500 it's less children, more teachers, but-

01:33:49.580 Oh, it's, yeah.

01:33:50.200 When there's just some connection.

01:33:52.480 Yeah.

01:33:52.780 Because when you're just sitting there and you're just, you're almost just like a piece

01:33:55.880 of cattle for information.

01:33:57.180 That's what you feel like in school.

01:33:58.500 A lot of times I would remember that.

01:33:59.640 It would be like, well, there's just this information.

01:34:01.640 I write it down.

01:34:02.300 And it's like, what are we, there's, it doesn't feel like-

01:34:05.520 No, there's no relationship to it.

01:34:06.900 There's got to be a better way to do this.

01:34:08.220 And there's no real relationship to each other while we're learning it, except throwing

01:34:11.000 like a dick on someone.

01:34:12.240 It's true, a dick on the desk.

01:34:14.560 Let me see.

01:34:15.200 The fraction of parents saying K through 12 education is heading in the wrong direction

01:34:18.540 was fairly stable from 2019 to 2022, but rose in 2023.

01:34:22.720 And then again in 2024 to its highest level in a decade.

01:34:26.580 The reasons for the move away from public schools certainly vary from family to family,

01:34:30.000 but there have been notable developments in recent years.

01:34:33.100 During the pandemic, many parents discovered that their preferences regarding school closures

01:34:36.260 and health policies were anything but a priority for educators.

01:34:39.960 I don't even know if teachers have as much like individuality and autonomy as they used

01:34:44.580 to anyway.

01:34:45.720 No, and it's tricky for, my mom was a teacher.

01:34:48.600 It's just-

01:34:49.340 Yeah, what did she say about it?

01:34:50.760 Oh, just how-

01:34:51.420 And this is America too.

01:34:52.560 America is definitely-

01:34:53.580 Yeah, but it's just how, it's the hardest, one of the hardest jobs in the world.

01:34:56.820 Like, and she just said trying to control 30 different personalities and then teach 30

01:35:00.940 different personalities who have different styles of learning and absorbing information

01:35:05.040 was just chaos.

01:35:06.880 And yeah, that's how it is.

01:35:08.100 You look at our education system 500 years ago and now, it hasn't changed.

01:35:11.640 It's chalkboard and people sitting at a desk looking in one direction.

01:35:14.520 Yet every other form of industry has evolved exponentially.

01:35:19.240 That's a great point.

01:35:19.840 And so, I think we, there does need to be a big drastic shift in how we're teaching our

01:35:26.520 kids and, and you know, like a lot, people talk a lot about sort of, you know, AI and

01:35:31.500 so on and, and, and, you know, absorbing information.

01:35:34.900 Do kids absorb it better and can you then curate it more?

01:35:38.680 But you have to have an individual there, you know?

01:35:41.180 We can't sort of cut off the human experience or the human connection part of it.

01:35:45.120 But I would, if you could control it, you want to incentivize teachers and, and encourage

01:35:50.260 more people to come into this industry by paying them more.

01:35:53.180 So government funding, because they don't get paid enough and they don't get rewarded

01:35:56.000 enough.

01:35:56.640 It's dark.

01:35:57.480 I mean, yeah, the fact that we don't pay them and nurses now.

01:36:00.660 Yeah.

01:36:01.120 It's backwards.

01:36:01.800 It's heartbreaking.

01:36:02.580 Yeah.

01:36:02.980 It's kind of, it's just like, and it's not the people, it's the elites, it's the government.

01:36:08.620 That's the sick part.

01:36:09.760 It's like.

01:36:10.600 Yeah.

01:36:10.840 But no, there's sort of a, yeah, we could go down a rabbit hole.

01:36:15.180 Yeah.

01:36:15.300 We could go down a rabbit hole, but let's, let's just stay in the garden for today.

01:36:18.620 Stay in the garden, brother.

01:36:19.380 We'll stay in the garden for today.

01:36:21.140 Crime 101.

01:36:22.140 It's in theaters.

01:36:23.440 Valentine's Day weekend.

01:36:24.720 Oh yeah.

01:36:25.300 Yeah.

01:36:25.860 February 12th.

01:36:26.040 Get your lady out if you're gay and both you guys like action.

01:36:28.980 That's right.

01:36:29.640 You know what I'm saying?

01:36:30.240 Which is kind of rare in a gay relationship.

01:36:31.580 Usually one dude kind of, you know, is a little bit more Bridges in Madison County and,

01:36:36.220 you know, but whatever, you know.

01:36:38.720 If you like heist films.

01:36:39.740 Yeah.

01:36:40.080 If you like heist films, that's what I mean.

01:36:41.360 Character driven, you know, thought provoking.

01:36:44.100 Yeah.

01:36:44.240 You like some espionage.

01:36:45.300 You like different levels of heist.

01:36:47.000 Yeah.

01:36:47.280 You want to support the heisters and.

01:36:49.080 Thomas Crown Affair, Heat, Collateral.

01:36:52.020 It's a big, beautiful cinematic experience shot in the gritty streets of Los Angeles.

01:36:56.300 So nothing gets shot here anymore either.

01:36:58.340 So there's a nostalgia to watching this film.

01:37:00.600 I think that the people appreciate, you know.

01:37:03.160 Yeah.

01:37:03.360 David Spade and I made a movie and I know I've said this before on here, it's coming out in

01:37:05.980 April.

01:37:06.700 Yeah.

01:37:06.880 That we shot in just north, right outside of here.

01:37:09.440 Oh, cool.

01:37:09.840 And here.

01:37:10.280 Actually, we shot some of it in places that I've even been to AA meetings, dude.

01:37:12.860 We shot in places where I've done AA meetings over the years.

01:37:16.020 Oh, cool.

01:37:16.800 So it's pretty legendary.

01:37:17.880 But yeah, it's great to see something shot in LA.

01:37:19.960 Yeah.

01:37:20.140 And if you've been to LA, you'll see parts in the background where I was like, oh, that's

01:37:22.760 Venice.

01:37:23.060 Yeah.

01:37:23.220 Like whenever Ruffalo was sitting outside with Halle Berry and Halle Berry's in it, huh?

01:37:28.040 Fantastic, man.

01:37:28.920 What a force.

01:37:29.820 It was crazy working with her.

01:37:32.340 I've admired her for so long and she's incredible.

01:37:35.440 And then it was one of those, I've had this happen one time with Cate Blanchett as well,

01:37:39.660 where I'm so intimidated by the person and watching them and in the middle of the scene,

01:37:45.120 but also captivated by what they're doing that I'm just like an audience member and

01:37:48.200 I'm forgetting like that I have to contribute, you know, I'm just going, and she's that and

01:37:52.620 she's just a beautiful human being.

01:37:54.920 Barry Keoghan's in it.

01:37:56.220 He's an absolute wild man.

01:37:57.120 Yeah, that was a surprise.

01:37:58.160 Yeah.

01:37:59.060 He's a, he talked about like dangerous electricity on screen, on and off the camera, you know,

01:38:06.420 he has such an unpredictability about him and it's just captivating.

01:38:10.800 Well, you feel like he's in control of what he was doing, you know?

01:38:13.340 Yeah.

01:38:13.840 It's still crazy that he was slurping up that dude's bathwater or whatever.

01:38:17.040 You know what I'm saying?

01:38:17.880 In the other film.

01:38:18.480 You know what I'm saying?

01:38:19.440 I love the Fosters.

01:38:21.340 You know what I'm saying, bro?

01:38:22.700 That's what I'm saying, bro.

01:38:24.000 I don't sip out of the bottom of the tub anymore.

01:38:26.400 I'll drink off the top of the tub, you know, the top water, but I'm not that undercurrent.

01:38:30.680 That's just for him.

01:38:32.440 And my friend Crosby Fitzgerald is in it as well.

01:38:34.800 She plays Ma in the new remake of the Little House on the Prairie that's coming out.

01:38:40.600 So our fans over the years know that I love that show.

01:38:43.300 And she has just a small role in it.

01:38:45.900 There she is right there.

01:38:46.600 Beautiful young lady.

01:38:47.620 So talented.

01:38:48.860 And that show is going to be on Netflix coming out soon.

01:38:51.080 But Crime 101, it's in theaters now.

01:38:53.560 Give my best to your brother.

01:38:55.080 I will, man.

01:38:55.820 And to your brothers.

01:38:57.080 Yeah.

01:38:57.440 And yeah, thanks so much for coming and just sharing some information with us, dude.

01:39:01.300 I appreciate you, man.

01:39:02.120 I love the show and have been excited to come on for a long time.

01:39:05.340 So thanks for having me.

01:39:05.760 Yeah, dude, it was fun and I appreciate it.

01:39:07.200 And tell everybody in Australia that I said what's up.

01:39:09.560 And we're coming back there, dude.

01:39:10.880 And we're going to go to the beach and we're going to do everything.

01:39:12.900 You hit me up.

01:39:14.260 We'll go on an e-bike and we'll hit the coast.

01:39:18.580 Good day.

01:39:19.100 Yeah, good day for that.

01:39:20.880 All right.

01:39:21.300 Cheers, man.

01:39:21.720 Thank you so much.

01:39:22.240 Thanks so much, man.

01:39:22.860 I'm just floating on the breeze and I feel I'm falling like these leaves.

01:39:28.580 I must be cornerstone.

01:39:33.840 Oh, but when I reach that ground, I'll share this peace of mind I found.

01:39:39.320 I can feel it in my bones.

01:39:42.700 But it's gonna tell you.

01:39:53.400 It's gonna tell you.

This Past Weekend with Theo Von - February 17, 2026

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