This Past Weekend with Theo Von - #642

00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, it's Theo Vaughn here, and I got a question.

00:00:04.000 When it comes to soda, are you really picking a zero sugar cola that you actually prefer,

00:00:10.160 or are you just settling for what you've always had?

00:00:14.140 That's the question.

00:00:15.580 And I'll say this, when it comes to taste, I find that nothing beats Pepsi Zero Sugar.

00:00:20.740 But you don't just have to take my word for it, that would be ridiculous.

00:00:25.480 Pepsi has been doing blind taste tests for years.

00:00:30.180 No labels, no brand names, just taste.

00:00:34.420 And last year, they brought back the Pepsi Challenge, and the results were clear.

00:00:39.600 66% of people agreed and said that Pepsi Zero Sugar tastes better than Coca-Cola Zero Sugar.

00:00:47.300 In fact, Pepsi Zero Sugar won in every market they tested.

00:00:50.640 So if you're grabbing a zero sugar soda, go with the one people keep choosing

00:00:54.500 when taste is the only thing that matters.

00:00:57.040 Go out and try Pepsi Zero Sugar today.

00:00:59.220 Let your taste decide.

00:01:00.860 I want to let you guys know I'll be in Jacksonville, Florida, preparing for my comedy special taping.

00:01:07.720 That's March 13th and 14th, with two shows on the 14th.

00:01:12.680 Get your tickets only at TheoVaughn.com slash T-O-U-R.

00:01:18.280 It's Return of the Rat.

00:01:20.460 It's still, I know, like this rat has returned so many times.

00:01:23.940 But I've just got to make sure everything's running smooth for the special that has been so far.

00:01:30.140 So I'm excited to get down there.

00:01:33.740 Reminder, guys, that you can get video versions of our episodes now on Spotify as well.

00:01:39.460 Today's guest is an independent journalist.

00:01:43.580 He's a content creator.

00:01:45.360 He has his own show, 5149.

00:01:48.520 That's on YouTube.

00:01:50.600 We got into a lot.

00:01:52.660 I'm grateful to sit down today with Mr. James Lee.

00:01:56.520 You look good.

00:02:14.440 Good as I'm going to look today, dude.

00:02:15.820 I thought about wearing the bucket hat, but I'm like, I got to switch up the hats.

00:02:19.160 You know what I'm saying?

00:02:19.980 Usually I'm wearing the bucket hat.

00:02:21.620 Do you know what I'm talking about?

00:02:22.300 Oh, yeah.

00:02:22.800 Dude, I almost wore this beekeeper's hat that I got.

00:02:25.560 Yeah, Whitney Cummings one night at the comedy store.

00:02:29.080 I think she was going through something.

00:02:30.420 And she gave me a full beekeeper's outfit.

00:02:34.140 Really?

00:02:34.860 Yeah, for no reason.

00:02:35.860 It was like, she's like, I got something for you.

00:02:39.160 And then she went and got a beekeeper's full beekeeper's outfit out of her trunk or whatever.

00:02:45.900 The last beekeeper scene that I saw was from that movie, Begonia.

00:02:50.460 Did you see that movie?

00:02:51.200 I haven't seen it yet.

00:02:51.820 Is it good?

00:02:52.740 It's dark.

00:02:53.740 Really?

00:02:54.040 Like really dark.

00:02:55.560 I'm like, I was not ready for this.

00:02:57.220 I was not.

00:02:58.500 Like, do you mean perversion or sensuality or like, what are you talking about?

00:03:02.380 Dark?

00:03:02.740 It's just like...

00:03:04.020 I mean, the plot line, just like humanity, just like the, what are they called?

00:03:11.480 Malice or whatever?

00:03:12.200 Well, they're trying to do like cultural commentary.

00:03:14.540 Okay.

00:03:14.820 And so I'm like, wow, this is not a movie.

00:03:16.640 It's like, cause I deal in it all day long.

00:03:18.440 So I'm like, I don't need a movie.

00:03:19.540 I like my movies to be like chill.

00:03:21.640 Right.

00:03:21.880 You know, like rom-coms and comedy.

00:03:25.520 Madagascar.

00:03:25.980 Yeah.

00:03:26.280 Yeah.

00:03:26.480 Those kinds of things.

00:03:27.500 Yeah.

00:03:27.940 Yeah.

00:03:28.880 Sierra Leone or whatever.

00:03:30.260 Some of that.

00:03:31.360 I don't know what that is.

00:03:32.440 Well, I was just thinking of other African countries.

00:03:34.160 It's crazy because there's like Madagascar and then there's Hotel Rwanda.

00:03:37.620 So that's the only thing, like Africa, it gives you like some polar opposites if you

00:03:41.960 pick the wrong African area off of your, you know, the Netflix.

00:03:46.980 I've never been to Africa.

00:03:48.920 Oh, there, actually, can I tell you this story before we get going?

00:03:51.100 Yeah, for sure.

00:03:51.680 Just a real quick story.

00:03:52.920 Okay.

00:03:53.080 So.

00:03:53.480 No worries.

00:03:53.980 James Lee.

00:03:54.700 Good to see you today.

00:03:55.500 And is it Lee?

00:03:56.480 Yes.

00:03:56.880 Okay, good.

00:03:57.540 James Lee.

00:03:58.080 Tell me your story and then I'm going to ask you a question.

00:03:59.380 Okay.

00:03:59.600 Okay.

00:03:59.800 So just quick story before we start.

00:04:01.240 I just have to tell you the story.

00:04:02.240 Okay.

00:04:02.400 So this is like a few years ago, me and my buddies were in Europe.

00:04:06.640 We're on this Euro trip and this is like two of my best friends.

00:04:10.080 And this is like the type of people you meet at your first job.

00:04:12.740 Like it's a really, really shitty job where you're like, we're literally like call center

00:04:16.380 with a headset.

00:04:17.460 Everybody's yelling at us all day.

00:04:18.480 So we're like, hey, one day when we get out of here, we're going to go to Europe.

00:04:21.700 Yeah.

00:04:22.720 We're going to do this Euro trip type of thing, like the movie.

00:04:25.120 And we did do that.

00:04:26.280 So finally a few, you know, years and years later, we had a chance to do that.

00:04:29.820 And we're just going out and partying every single night.

00:04:32.200 In what country?

00:04:32.800 This is in like Spain and Portugal.

00:04:35.020 But after like seven to 10 days of this, we're like, dude, I think my liver's shutting

00:04:41.440 down.

00:04:41.980 Like we have to stay in for a night.

00:04:43.980 Like we're going to die here.

00:04:45.240 So then we stayed in and that night, so we're just scrolling around, whatever.

00:04:49.940 It was like Netflix or some, some streaming thing that I don't, I don't remember.

00:04:53.180 And that night we ended up binge watching the show called Deal With It.

00:04:58.460 Do you remember that show?

00:04:59.480 Oh yeah.

00:05:00.140 I remember that show, dude.

00:05:01.020 I was a host on it.

00:05:02.180 Yeah, I know.

00:05:02.740 That's what I was, that's why I had to tell you the story.

00:05:04.300 Oh, that's crazy.

00:05:04.700 We literally watched like 10 episodes of Deal With It.

00:05:07.880 How stoned were you guys?

00:05:09.640 I mean, I don't want to say for me.

00:05:12.140 There was a weird person in that picture, which is crazy.

00:05:15.080 And so, so then we made a pact right there.

00:05:16.740 We're like, Hey, if anybody starts doing weird shit, like you just got to go with it for

00:05:20.160 a little while.

00:05:20.640 Like just, just see what happens, you know, don't shut it down right away.

00:05:23.700 But I, but that was, so it's a full circle moment from like many years ago.

00:05:27.080 I was like watching the show.

00:05:27.940 That was my first introduction to Theo Vaughn was this show.

00:05:31.680 I don't know if how proud of you are on the work on the show, but, but it was very,

00:05:35.980 it saved my life.

00:05:37.020 It kept you off the, off the streets of, uh, of Lisbon.

00:05:42.760 Yeah.

00:05:43.300 That's beautiful.

00:05:44.060 Some beautiful streets they have there too, though.

00:05:46.140 They do.

00:05:46.700 Lisbon's so nice.

00:05:47.620 But, um, dude, no, the show is fun.

00:05:50.300 I didn't have much input.

00:05:51.900 That was kind of the tough part.

00:05:52.840 Like you were just kind of like screwing around.

00:05:54.180 And then I also just realized I look like that lesbian lady from, uh, what's that band?

00:05:58.920 They sing like, um, life is a highway.

00:06:03.000 Oh, wait, the Rascal Flats.

00:06:04.420 Yes.

00:06:04.660 I looked like that lesbian lady from Rascal Flats actually.

00:06:06.880 Pull me back up.

00:06:08.640 I was not aware there was a lesbian lady in Rascal Flats.

00:06:12.660 And now maybe that's rude to say that.

00:06:15.180 Yeah.

00:06:15.700 Pull her up.

00:06:18.360 Pretty close, huh?

00:06:20.460 Oh, I mean.

00:06:22.340 Oh, there is not a lady in Rascal Flats.

00:06:24.740 I don't see a lady in Rascal Flats.

00:06:26.340 I was like, is that the lesbian?

00:06:27.520 I don't know, dude.

00:06:29.040 My bad.

00:06:30.360 I have no, I think I think I'll take it as somebody else, dude.

00:06:33.620 Whatever.

00:06:34.200 All right.

00:06:34.500 Okay.

00:06:34.860 Anyways, that was, yeah.

00:06:37.060 So then that was, that was like the first time I ever saw who you were.

00:06:40.420 Oh, interesting, bro.

00:06:42.740 Um.

00:06:43.320 I don't know how far along in your career at that point that was, but.

00:06:46.300 Oh, yeah.

00:06:46.880 That was probably 13 years into my career probably.

00:06:48.960 And, um, yeah.

00:06:51.900 Howie Mandel gave me a job there.

00:06:53.540 And thank you so much, Howie.

00:06:54.560 That was fun.

00:06:55.400 Yeah.

00:06:55.720 For people who don't, didn't watch the show, it was like, it was like a hidden camera show

00:06:59.520 where there's like contestants.

00:07:00.760 And then one of them has like an earpiece and you're telling them what to do.

00:07:03.880 And the other person has to like go along with it.

00:07:06.000 Right.

00:07:06.360 They're doing weird shit.

00:07:07.140 They're just like, hey, floss at the, at the, at the restaurant, you know, table.

00:07:11.080 Yes.

00:07:11.420 And then like, or like go eat somebody else's food.

00:07:13.160 And there's these challenges that you would have to pass.

00:07:14.960 And if you make it, if the other person is like dealing with it, then they would earn

00:07:18.640 money.

00:07:19.060 Yeah.

00:07:19.240 And so that's when me and my buddies were like, all right, Hey man, just, just in case

00:07:22.920 we're in that situation, you just go with it for a little while.

00:07:25.980 I can't believe you guys say they didn't watch that, but yeah, you'd find just two strangers

00:07:29.780 walking down the street.

00:07:30.440 You'd have already pre set up at a, at a restaurant.

00:07:32.560 Was that real though?

00:07:33.220 Or is it where the contestants really like, Hey, I wanted those two people or were they

00:07:36.760 like pre-screened?

00:07:37.700 And then we would pick people that were just kind of going in or coming by you.

00:07:41.000 A lot of times you try to get people and they wouldn't come.

00:07:42.720 They just wouldn't understand or want them.

00:07:45.100 Yeah.

00:07:45.360 Yeah.

00:07:45.680 You'd always want them to go to the bathroom and then you'd go ask the other person who's at

00:07:48.560 the table, like, Hey, will you be on this game show?

00:07:50.100 We're doing a game show in here today.

00:07:51.260 Yeah.

00:07:51.660 And so it was a lot of craziness.

00:07:53.560 The craziest thing that ever happened on that show was one time there was a couple walking

00:07:57.520 down the street and we invited them in.

00:07:59.580 Cause you, you, you'd be like, Hey, well we're giving away free appetizers or something.

00:08:02.880 So they come and sit down and then one of them would go to the restroom and that's when

00:08:05.820 we'd ask the other one, Hey, we're going to put an earpiece in your ear.

00:08:08.220 We're going to start telling you things to do.

00:08:09.680 If you're a friend that you're here with, when they come back from the bathroom, you know,

00:08:13.860 if they don't notice that you're doing weird shit, like the more you can get them to

00:08:17.280 deal with, the more money you make.

00:08:18.240 Yeah.

00:08:18.680 Yeah.

00:08:18.800 Okay.

00:08:19.260 But one time it was, we, so we put the earpiece in this lady's ear, the guy going to the restroom,

00:08:24.980 he comes back and sits down and the guy was a pimp and she was a working girl.

00:08:31.040 Really?

00:08:31.780 So she starts doing this crazy shit and the pimp starts getting like threatening this lady.

00:08:37.260 Like I'm going to whoop your ass.

00:08:38.720 And we're like, this isn't going well really.

00:08:43.760 And it did not, that, that episode didn't air, right?

00:08:45.480 No, at a certain, and that's when we should have aired.

00:08:47.660 Oh, you know, um,

00:08:49.400 That's in the vault somewhere.

00:08:50.260 Maybe how he can pull that back up or what?

00:08:51.820 I mean, it'd be, it'd be wild if he did.

00:08:53.740 Oh, I think if we aired the ones that didn't air, that'd be pretty wild.

00:08:57.000 But yeah, there was definitely some, there was like some ridiculous moments on there that

00:09:00.220 were pretty great.

00:09:01.320 Uh, but that was one of the wildest ones and we just had to shut it down because it was

00:09:04.340 like an endangerment to the lady or something.

00:09:06.820 Yeah.

00:09:07.260 But anyway, um, James Lee, good to see you.

00:09:11.060 Thank you.

00:09:11.540 Thank you for having me on the show.

00:09:12.680 Appreciate it, man.

00:09:13.840 I appreciate it, man.

00:09:14.620 I really appreciate it.

00:09:15.540 You live in, um, do you say where you live?

00:09:19.260 California?

00:09:20.240 Yes.

00:09:20.700 I mean, I, I tell people I live in San Diego.

00:09:22.540 Okay.

00:09:22.760 That's about as specific as I'll get, you know?

00:09:26.220 Yeah.

00:09:26.360 Thanks for coming on, man.

00:09:27.160 I first learned about you, like just in some clips online, I was like, yeah, look at this

00:09:31.360 like investigator, you know, I feel like a lot of investigators now, and a lot of people

00:09:36.140 are getting kind of their news, um, from guys like you, uh, Nick Shirley, um, Hassan

00:09:43.100 Piker, Candace Owens clips.

00:09:45.460 Um, I, I just feel like it's becoming a lot more from social clips that people even get

00:09:49.480 their news.

00:09:50.560 For sure.

00:09:50.940 And I would, I would even say that I'm not like an investigator, I think is like really

00:09:54.780 generous of what I do.

00:09:56.440 Like I like to expose rich and powerful people, but it's like a, there's like a network of

00:10:01.940 investigators.

00:10:02.560 Like we're all leaning on each other to like, somebody's find something.

00:10:06.060 I'm like, Oh, that's great.

00:10:06.900 I'm going to put that in my video.

00:10:08.020 So there's a, there's like a lot of information sharing that goes on.

00:10:10.840 So I don't want to take credit for being like, you know, a guy that's like in, you know,

00:10:15.420 there's like real, real investigators that are literally pouring through like document

00:10:19.980 after document.

00:10:20.780 And sometimes I'll do that, but it's just like, it's just me.

00:10:22.960 So I don't have the resources to be able to do that a lot of times.

00:10:26.260 So it's like, there's like a collective network of like decentralized journalists or creators

00:10:32.000 that are in that space.

00:10:33.180 Yeah.

00:10:33.900 Decentralized journalists.

00:10:34.820 Yeah.

00:10:34.940 Yeah.

00:10:35.420 Like we don't work for one particular news organization, of course.

00:10:38.780 So like we all have our own editorial freedom, but there's like alignment in terms of, we want

00:10:44.600 to just expose rich and powerful people.

00:10:46.920 Yeah.

00:10:47.340 So that feels like your, like sort of your theme is the exposure of the elites.

00:10:53.580 Elites or businesses, right?

00:10:55.540 I talk a lot about private equity and how they're basically buying up all the houses

00:10:59.340 or they're taking over, you know, certain industries like the hospital industry.

00:11:02.880 Or I did one recently that was on, they're buying, there's a private equity company buying all

00:11:08.480 the sports rinks in, in the Northeast.

00:11:11.760 And because they want to make more money, they were making rules in their contract.

00:11:15.860 When you sign your kids, it's like, it's like youth hockey.

00:11:18.940 It's not like elite, you know, hockey.

00:11:20.740 It's like kids playing hockey and they're assigning, making the parents sign this contract saying

00:11:25.020 you can't film your kids while they play hockey because they want you to sign up for this

00:11:29.100 $50 a month subscription service that they own, that they want to like, it's like, if

00:11:35.160 you want footage of your kids playing hockey, you got to sign up for this.

00:11:38.000 Oh, like it's a max preps thing or something like that.

00:11:39.940 It's like, it's just, it's like, it's a company called, um, Black Bear Sports, Black Bear

00:11:46.440 Sports Group.

00:11:47.380 And they own a ton of ice rinks in the Northeast.

00:11:52.520 Yeah.

00:11:52.900 This one right here.

00:11:54.000 Wow.

00:11:54.360 They banned parents from recording kids hockey.

00:11:55.900 We changed that.

00:11:57.020 Okay.

00:11:57.600 So, so yeah, this is so they, I, I saw this article.

00:12:00.360 I'm like, I got to blow this up.

00:12:01.540 Right.

00:12:01.700 Cause a lot of people aren't going to read this article.

00:12:03.240 Right.

00:12:03.620 So then I feel like it's my responsibility to say, Hey, this is a big deal.

00:12:07.040 Cause this is just them price gouging parents.

00:12:09.500 Like you're taking a moment of joy from these parents.

00:12:14.440 Like they just want to, you know, practice.

00:12:16.940 You're watching him.

00:12:17.940 Exactly.

00:12:18.440 And then now you want to paywall that and make them sign up for $50 a month, which is like more

00:12:22.480 expensive than, you know, Netflix and all these other companies.

00:12:24.980 So you, so you're basically like taking advantage of their parents love.

00:12:29.000 It's like, yes, of course we want our kids, you know, record of our kids scoring a goal.

00:12:33.960 So I'm going to pay for that.

00:12:35.140 But it's like, is that good?

00:12:37.120 Is that, you know, is that the right thing to do?

00:12:39.080 Yeah.

00:12:39.260 Like at what point is there, do we decide, Hey, we don't need to make a dollar off of this.

00:12:43.780 Right.

00:12:44.140 There's an actual human value here.

00:12:46.960 That's worth more than some, um, ownership or that's worth more than like the rights to

00:12:53.620 something.

00:12:53.920 And then how weird does it get once you start giving away the rights to film your own kids

00:12:57.800 and then it's, you know, like how long before a drone is in the sky.

00:13:01.520 And if you want footage, your kid playing in your yard, you have to, you know, email

00:13:05.800 the drone and pay a fee to get a certain clip of your child on a swing.

00:13:09.440 Because if you pull your own phone out in your backyard, it won't work anymore because

00:13:13.380 you didn't pay a subscription fee.

00:13:15.100 You know what I'm saying?

00:13:15.680 You just sounds dystopian.

00:13:17.040 It sounds dystopian, but where we're getting now sounds dystopian.

00:13:20.260 Um, you know, in some places anyway, and in some ways for sure.

00:13:23.700 Uh, how did you get into kind of, let's say investigative journalism, like what spurned you to

00:13:31.100 become someone who kind of wanted to expose?

00:13:34.860 So you want, like, I can give you like a short version or like a slightly longer version.

00:13:39.360 Cause, okay.

00:13:39.940 So I'll, I'll, I'll try to make it as succinct as possible.

00:13:42.280 So like many, so this is like when I was a kid growing up, I was, I think I was in elementary

00:13:46.500 school.

00:13:46.780 My mom asked me, Hey, what do you want to do when you grow up?

00:13:49.520 And I said, teacher.

00:13:51.240 She's like, what?

00:13:52.620 And I said, yeah.

00:13:53.340 And he's like, why?

00:13:54.280 And I said, well, summer breaks, duh.

00:13:56.560 No, but that wasn't.

00:13:57.920 So, so like for me, that was the joke reason, but really I love just like, I have this natural

00:14:03.860 curiosity for things.

00:14:05.020 I love learning about stuff and I love telling other people about stuff.

00:14:07.880 So like, that's, to me, that's a teacher.

00:14:09.560 Like what I do right now is like teaching in a sense of like, I'm reading, you know, basically

00:14:14.920 like one chapter ahead and then I'm, I'm learning about stuff like, wow, this is really cool.

00:14:18.880 I want to share that with the world.

00:14:19.780 And hopefully you can use that information to better your life.

00:14:22.600 That's, that's my hope.

00:14:24.120 I never obviously did that.

00:14:25.640 I worked a bunch of different things.

00:14:28.620 And like I was saying, I was working in a call center, just, just random startups.

00:14:31.740 I didn't go anywhere.

00:14:32.560 So then maybe about 10 years ago, I was talked into applying to business school.

00:14:38.520 So then I went to NYU.

00:14:42.660 I went to the full-time MBA program at NYU.

00:14:45.020 You lived in New York?

00:14:46.240 A couple of years.

00:14:46.960 Yeah.

00:14:47.440 That's cool.

00:14:48.300 It was cool.

00:14:48.880 I mean, it was cool for a little while.

00:14:49.660 I actually didn't like living in New York.

00:14:51.060 It was like just too, too much for me.

00:14:53.160 Like the stimulus was.

00:14:54.680 It's a lot.

00:14:55.360 Yeah.

00:14:55.700 It was better back then.

00:14:56.640 Now I go back, I go back probably a couple of times a year because I still have friends

00:14:59.320 out there and I visit them.

00:15:01.120 And when I go there now, I'm like, whoa, this is like sensory overload for me at this

00:15:05.740 point.

00:15:07.000 But anyway, so I went to business school and I actually wrote my essay because that was

00:15:10.800 when I was applying to business school is when Bernie first started running his 2016

00:15:15.540 campaign for president.

00:15:16.980 And I was a big Bernie guy.

00:15:18.500 And that's when I first learned of like, oh, wow, the Democratic Party is not so democratic.

00:15:22.820 Like, I'm sure you know some of the stories about him getting screwed over by the DNC.

00:15:27.120 Yeah, he got railroaded.

00:15:27.820 He won some primaries and then they pulled him out.

00:15:29.540 They pulled him out.

00:15:30.440 Well, they gave like, for example, they gave Hillary like access to the debate questions

00:15:37.240 ahead of time.

00:15:38.200 They were rigging all the rules against Bernie just like, and then they were creating smear

00:15:41.840 campaigns that originated from the DNC, like the Bernie bros.

00:15:44.800 That was like a DNC manufactured smear campaign to say, oh, Bernie Sanders is a racist and

00:15:50.480 a sexist.

00:15:51.440 That came from the DNC themselves.

00:15:53.240 That wasn't like an outside group saying that.

00:15:56.020 It could be.

00:15:56.420 It's like, it was never an official DNC.

00:15:58.380 Nobody said it was an official DNC contract.

00:16:00.240 It was a leak that came out later on that said, oh yeah, they made that.

00:16:04.040 I wouldn't, I would not be surprised.

00:16:05.600 I mean, either way, his, his own party railroaded him.

00:16:07.780 His own party did not give him.

00:16:08.920 Oh yeah.

00:16:09.280 People wanted him and they did not give the people what they want, which is really the

00:16:12.800 most undemocratic thing.

00:16:13.520 That was, I mean, that was the race that we were supposed to have.

00:16:15.540 Like that was, that's one thing that makes me sad.

00:16:17.060 It's like, we were supposed to have like the populist right Trump, populist left Bernie.

00:16:21.360 That was supposed to be the election.

00:16:22.900 Yeah.

00:16:23.240 And that was going to be like, that would imagine that fight right there.

00:16:26.100 That would have been, that's what the soul of America is all about.

00:16:28.840 Instead, the Democrats got like the most establishment candidate, Hillary Clinton.

00:16:32.720 Nobody wanted her.

00:16:34.800 But anyway, so around that time, I was going, I was applying to business school.

00:16:39.920 So I'd seen all that happen.

00:16:41.460 So I wrote my essay going to business school.

00:16:43.240 I was like, Hey, I want to work in the news business.

00:16:44.760 Cause I want to improve, you know, the, uh, the way we report the news.

00:16:50.480 Um, and so I went to business school.

00:16:51.980 So immediately when I got in there, they were like, I don't think you're going to be able

00:16:54.600 to get a job at a news agency.

00:16:56.260 Cause you don't have any experience.

00:16:57.740 So why don't you do consulting instead?

00:16:59.840 Apparently anybody can be a consultant.

00:17:01.920 That's true.

00:17:02.500 And so, um, so yeah, no, seriously.

00:17:05.860 I was like, I have no, none of this background.

00:17:07.520 So like credit to consulting firms.

00:17:09.420 Like if you go to the right school, they will hire you as long as you know, you do well

00:17:14.100 in the, the interviews and things like that.

00:17:16.140 So I became a consultant management consultant for four and a half, five years at a big four

00:17:21.120 consulting firm.

00:17:22.900 And it just so happens coincidentally.

00:17:25.120 So then COVID hit like a, maybe a year after I started working in consulting and it just

00:17:30.080 so happened that I was working for a big pharma client at the time.

00:17:36.320 Um, and so COVID big awakening for, I think a lot of us, I mean, for me, for many other

00:17:42.660 people, cause at first I was like one of the people who was okay.

00:17:47.240 I was like, all right, we got to stay inside.

00:17:48.860 We got to lock down.

00:17:49.880 We got to stop the spread, right?

00:17:51.200 Who doesn't want to stop?

00:17:51.880 I was like, I'll stop.

00:17:52.660 Yeah.

00:17:52.760 Let's stop the spread.

00:17:53.540 Let's do that.

00:17:54.720 And then it was then the mass and then eventually the vaccines.

00:17:58.780 But then over the next course, like maybe a year, year and a half, things started coming

00:18:02.480 out.

00:18:02.760 That was like weird.

00:18:03.380 It was like, what the heck is this?

00:18:04.520 Like they seem to be contradicting themselves.

00:18:06.320 Then you had that whole Joe Rogan debacle of the ivermectin when they said it was horse

00:18:10.600 pace, when there's like a human version of it, that obviously he's not taking the veterinary

00:18:16.200 medicine for sure.

00:18:17.540 So then I saw that, but then I was on the inside.

00:18:19.140 I was literally like, okay, something weird's going on.

00:18:22.480 And then I got to do, so this is the year, I think it was like 2022, right at the beginning

00:18:27.040 of 2022.

00:18:27.780 So then you're working for a big pharma company at that time as a consultant, as a consultant.

00:18:31.960 Yeah.

00:18:32.480 My specialization was supply chain.

00:18:35.360 So I was doing projects like optimizing inventory.

00:18:39.260 So it's like how much product you have based on how much you're going to sell and how much

00:18:42.580 you're making.

00:18:43.020 Cause you want to have the right amount, right?

00:18:44.220 If you have too much, it's going to be, there's going to be, um, leftover, it's going

00:18:47.960 to expire.

00:18:48.520 You're going to have to throw it away.

00:18:49.520 If it's not enough, then, you know, you run out of stock and you can't make money.

00:18:53.260 Right.

00:18:53.460 So you have to have the perfect amount.

00:18:54.780 So that was, that was my job.

00:18:56.700 And, and, and a lot of it was like making PowerPoints, you know, spreadsheet, PowerPoint

00:18:59.400 work.

00:19:00.120 Yeah.

00:19:00.800 And so then we did this project at the beginning of 2022 for this big pharma client.

00:19:04.160 I can't say which one for legal reasons, but it was one of the manufacturers of the COVID-19

00:19:07.960 vaccine.

00:19:08.480 And one of the projects that we did was looking at the totality of the inventory they had within

00:19:14.840 this product.

00:19:16.180 And we went to them with this, with the, with the report saying that by the end of this

00:19:21.100 year, and this is, so this is once again, 2022.

00:19:23.760 So then everybody who wanted to get the vaccine had taken it by this point.

00:19:28.000 It was because 2021 is where it came out.

00:19:29.700 It was about a year after that.

00:19:31.040 People had already gotten their first couple of doses.

00:19:34.380 And so we, we let them know it was like, Hey, it looks like you're going to have a few

00:19:38.120 hundred dollars or sorry, a few hundred million dollars worth of inventory at the very least,

00:19:43.340 depending on how you calculate it, it could be more worth more than that.

00:19:45.780 That's going to be left over at the end of the year that has no demand against it.

00:19:49.400 Meaning you're not going to be able to sell it.

00:19:51.600 Nobody's buying it.

00:19:53.040 And then a few weeks later, you're going to have product left on the shelves.

00:19:57.140 You could have, well, yeah, exactly.

00:19:58.520 Nobody's buying this.

00:19:59.940 And then a few weeks later, I see the CEO of this company go on to CNBC or one of these

00:20:04.720 news, you know, uh, companies, news shows.

00:20:08.540 And he says, well, I think it's time to do like another booster shot.

00:20:11.780 And so then to me, I was like, holy fuck, this is, this whole thing is, is, I can't

00:20:18.800 do this anymore.

00:20:19.320 I was like, I'm out.

00:20:20.140 So they created the booster because, oh, we have extra leftover.

00:20:22.820 Of course.

00:20:23.220 I mean, people say that, but then they'll call you a conspiracy theorist for saying that.

00:20:26.700 Cause it was like, no, no, there's scientific backing to this and that, but I'm on the inside.

00:20:30.160 I'm like, this doesn't look, this is, this seems like a pure financial decision.

00:20:34.080 Dude, Magellan was a conspiracy theorist, wasn't he?

00:20:36.320 What for going around the world?

00:20:37.560 Well, no, who's the guy that prophesied that there was another place to go to sail to?

00:20:42.240 Well, Columbus was the guy that said the world is round and I'm going to go the other way.

00:20:46.180 Right.

00:20:46.360 People going one direction.

00:20:48.080 He's like, I think I can get around to the other side.

00:20:50.420 That was Columbus.

00:20:51.340 Oh yeah.

00:20:51.660 Columbus.

00:20:52.080 That's the original reach around right there.

00:20:53.880 Yeah.

00:20:54.520 First of all, let's just say that dude.

00:20:56.680 But at that point I, I thought, man, I think I'm contributing to evil and I don't want to do

00:21:00.860 this anymore.

00:21:01.540 Wow.

00:21:02.500 And eventually I, I got out.

00:21:05.360 There's a, there's a whole story of like me getting let go because I was saying, I started

00:21:09.240 getting more rogue at work, you know, just like saying stuff you're not supposed to say.

00:21:12.500 Oh yeah.

00:21:13.060 Just milling around the water cooler.

00:21:14.800 Yeah.

00:21:15.480 Well, it's like powerful, you know, the, the, the, the, the elites of the company, you know,

00:21:19.420 the people who were really high up and I started saying stuff that was like, I think it was

00:21:24.600 correct, but it was uncomfortable for them to hear.

00:21:28.800 Yeah.

00:21:29.160 And then, and then I get brought into like a meeting.

00:21:31.560 It's like, Hey, do you, you know, what's your future look like here at this company?

00:21:34.620 Where do you see yourself?

00:21:35.700 That kind of thing.

00:21:36.980 And then I was put on a, um, performance improvement plan shortly thereafter that people

00:21:42.140 who know, yeah, people who work in corporate America will know what that is, right?

00:21:45.600 It's basically their way of firing somebody without legal liability.

00:21:49.980 They try to show that there's steps.

00:21:51.420 Yeah.

00:21:51.700 They say like, Oh, we're not firing this person for any other reason other than poor performance,

00:21:56.680 except, um, you know, they, they said I was doing like typos and it was like really,

00:22:01.680 first of all, what Asian is doing typos?

00:22:04.480 I mean, there aren't to make it racial.

00:22:07.060 I'm not going to say there aren't typos or sometimes there were typos, but, but that's

00:22:11.560 more of a, uh, that's certainly more of a general Caucasian problem.

00:22:15.160 You talking about Epstein with the typos on the emails or, Oh, that's a good point.

00:22:18.460 Like the whole thing is typos.

00:22:19.840 He didn't even want to commit to it.

00:22:20.900 You know, complete completing a word, you know, it was very bizarre.

00:22:24.340 I mean, this is getting off track, but very bizarre how he typed was like, there's commas,

00:22:28.300 but then there's three spaces after that.

00:22:31.020 Yeah.

00:22:31.940 It's almost like he wanted to show that if the case ever tried to show this, it wouldn't

00:22:34.880 match up with anything else, you know?

00:22:36.300 And that's when you're in such a state of like, uh, protecting yourself or like outsmarting

00:22:41.140 the world.

00:22:41.940 Um, so then at what point do you start?

00:22:44.520 Cause you started making clips first and then you started 5149.

00:22:47.500 That's your podcast.

00:22:48.240 So I, so I started, um, the, so when COVID hit, I actually just started doing videos

00:22:53.360 on YouTube just cause I had more time on my hands and I was just like, let me look into

00:22:56.560 some of this stuff.

00:22:57.360 So I started doing like one video a week on the weekends.

00:22:59.820 I was just like, you know, there's shitty videos.

00:23:01.780 They're still up.

00:23:02.460 People can look for them.

00:23:03.360 They're not very good, but it's just me looking into stuff.

00:23:06.360 Um, so then, um, after that I started doing more and more of that, um, putting stuff

00:23:11.700 on.

00:23:12.300 Yeah.

00:23:12.420 Making content.

00:23:13.140 So I was on YouTube and then, and then I started posting on Tik TOK and then Instagram.

00:23:19.240 And Rogan shared something here.

00:23:20.360 He was mentioned at one time.

00:23:21.660 He, yeah, he, he shared some, it was actually a really funny clip because I was wearing my

00:23:25.300 bucket hat and, and like, I think it was like Shane Gillis or somebody.

00:23:28.480 He was just like, yo, oh, that's the clip right there.

00:23:30.840 Yeah.

00:23:31.560 Let's see it.

00:23:32.220 Before you press play on that, listen, that guy with a fishing hat is not a reliable news

00:23:37.820 source.

00:23:38.340 That is my number one source of news.

00:23:40.100 It looks like a movie.

00:23:41.200 What I sent Jamie yesterday.

00:23:42.900 You, you want to get mad?

00:23:44.580 Yeah.

00:23:44.840 Let's get mad.

00:23:45.540 Let's get mad.

00:23:45.940 The, the LA fire fund, you know, they had this big show, big fundraiser.

00:23:53.320 They raised a hundred million dollars.

00:23:55.120 James Lee did a thing about it on Instagram.

00:23:58.600 Uh-oh.

00:23:58.900 The way they distribute the money is so crazy.

00:24:01.900 You're going to, you're going to read this and you're never going to want to donate to

00:24:04.580 charity again.

00:24:05.260 Listen to this.

00:24:06.060 I watched this.

00:24:06.640 I looked into it a little bit.

00:24:08.840 We'll watch it.

00:24:09.400 But I, what, what they say though, is that within the first month they distributed half

00:24:13.900 of that money.

00:24:14.420 Hold on.

00:24:14.700 Before you press play on that.

00:24:15.560 I also don't trust this.

00:24:16.760 Hold on.

00:24:17.180 That guy with a fishing hat is not a reliable news source.

00:24:20.120 So that's the whole thing?

00:24:20.940 Yeah.

00:24:21.500 That's awesome though.

00:24:22.900 But that, I remember this thing and I remember like, oh, so this guy's catching on.

00:24:27.240 People are curious about this guy.

00:24:28.600 People are adapting to, I think, what they feel like is genuine.

00:24:32.320 Even if it's just genuine curiosity, I think people are, you can, you know, there's something

00:24:37.500 inside of you that will attract to it.

00:24:39.280 Right.

00:24:39.500 And people also are, I think they're truth seekers.

00:24:41.600 It's like, you know, water seeks like a comfortable level.

00:24:44.760 So it's like, um, that's how people works kind of finding you and being like, oh, well,

00:24:48.480 there's something here that's real, you know?

00:24:50.340 Well, for me, I'm literally like the definition of a person who is just a regular guy.

00:24:54.520 I don't think I'm too smarter than regular people.

00:24:58.460 I was like a decent student, but never the top student.

00:25:01.460 And like, I, I'm not, I, I'm not a good reader, but what I'd had was this kind of like

00:25:05.960 curiosity.

00:25:07.080 And one thing that I do think I'm good at is like just recognizing patterns of like

00:25:11.900 this, this, this, this.

00:25:14.960 And I'm like, oh, these kinds of all fit together.

00:25:16.540 It's like, there's, there's like a logical pattern that's happening here.

00:25:19.600 And so I'm, I'm just a little definition of a guy who imagine just like, Hey, we're

00:25:23.420 going to make you like an anchor in the news.

00:25:25.160 Like, and then you're going to be able to say whatever you want.

00:25:26.900 And that's just me.

00:25:27.540 So like, I have no editorial, um, sort of control from other people.

00:25:32.440 It's just like, whatever I'm interested, I'll do a video on that.

00:25:35.800 And there's nobody really to tell me you can't do this.

00:25:38.240 You can't do that.

00:25:38.780 Other than of course, like getting de-platformed.

00:25:41.560 Right.

00:25:42.100 Which happened.

00:25:42.720 Yeah.

00:25:42.920 Which, which did happen.

00:25:44.080 But other than, yeah.

00:25:45.260 Happened recently on TikTok.

00:25:46.460 Yeah.

00:25:46.900 We'll come back to why that happened.

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00:25:53.600 That's what I would have done at the time.

00:25:56.240 I didn't know.

00:25:57.200 I felt like I didn't know enough.

00:25:58.700 Oh, I don't have enough information or I don't know how to get the right information.

00:26:03.080 What do I, you know, I don't know where to start, but I wish I had just realized that

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00:28:35.920 What about the fires?

00:28:37.400 Have you noticed about it?

00:28:38.460 Like, has there been some rabbit holes you've gone down with the LA fire?

00:28:40.500 So the Palisades fire specifically was now it's very much proven with facts that it originated

00:28:48.900 from another fire that started 10 days earlier.

00:28:50.860 I don't know if you've heard about this.

00:28:52.360 There's another fire that started on New Year's Day.

00:28:54.160 They said it was like fireworks.

00:28:55.220 Somebody was there and there was like a smoldering.

00:28:58.200 So the firefighters had come and technically put it out.

00:29:02.500 But the residents there, and I've talked to a couple of residents there, they're saying,

00:29:06.000 no, there was still like smoke emanating from the brushes.

00:29:11.300 And then seven or eight days later, that's when the big fire came in with the wind and

00:29:15.100 it like whipped everything back up.

00:29:16.720 That's the same thing that happened in Maui.

00:29:18.520 A fire was put out.

00:29:19.980 The police stayed there all night with it, thought it was out.

00:29:22.680 They waited there all night until like, I think until like 2, 4 a.m. or something.

00:29:27.140 And then they went home.

00:29:28.200 They said there's nothing left.

00:29:29.480 In the morning, the winds kicked up.

00:29:31.180 And that's when it got to another level.

00:29:32.520 Anyway, go on.

00:29:32.900 And Gavin Newsom was saying stuff like, oh, we couldn't have done that because of vegetation.

00:29:38.360 There's like some environmental reason why they couldn't go back in.

00:29:41.000 It was like kind of bullshit.

00:29:42.160 So now the state's getting sued because they're culpable for it.

00:29:44.960 And they even said, this is like a couple of weeks after the fire started, the deputy

00:29:49.420 fire chief said, there's no way this big fire was started from the other fire because

00:29:55.280 we put that fire, that fire was dead out.

00:29:57.220 And now it's not dead out.

00:29:58.240 Spencer Pratt has been really big on this in terms, he's running for mayor of LA and

00:30:02.340 he's all over this.

00:30:03.480 Yeah, I'm seeing that.

00:30:04.140 Um, so who says the small fire caused the big fire and who says it didn't?

00:30:07.920 So what do we know what really happened?

00:30:09.780 Yeah, we know.

00:30:10.500 There's now, there's now evidence that definitely came from, from the first fire.

00:30:15.500 So now the state is getting sued by, I can't remember who the, I don't know.

00:30:19.360 Because what did they do?

00:30:20.400 Well, what they did was they, it was negligent because they didn't follow the procedures

00:30:23.660 to put out the fire.

00:30:24.540 Got it.

00:30:24.840 Because they knew that there was still smoldering.

00:30:26.700 I think there's records of this, but they couldn't go in for vegetative reasons or whatever

00:30:30.680 it is.

00:30:31.580 And so now they're in trouble because now the damage that's been caused to the entire

00:30:36.160 Palisades community.

00:30:38.100 Yeah, see, there it is.

00:30:39.620 One year ago, just after midnight on New Year's Eve, a small brush fire broke out in Topanga

00:30:43.220 State Park above the Pacific Palisades outside Los Angeles.

00:30:47.400 Within hours, the Los Angeles Fire Department arrived on scene to begin digging hand lines

00:30:51.800 to stop its spread.

00:30:52.560 And the eight-acre fire ignited by a 29-year-old former Palisades resident who has since been

00:30:58.480 charged with arson was quickly brought under control.

00:31:01.200 By 4.46 a.m., the department declared it fully contained with no further updates anticipated.

00:31:06.800 But the fire was never fully extinguished.

00:31:08.940 A week later on January 7th, it reignited and burned more than 23,000 acres, destroyed

00:31:14.220 6,800 structures, and killed 12 people in what became LA's worst urban wildfire catastrophe.

00:31:18.960 And I'm guessing that was the Palisades Fire or the LA Fire?

00:31:21.420 That's the Palisades.

00:31:22.300 There's another big fire, the Eaton Fire, which is in Altadena.

00:31:25.340 Mm-hmm.

00:31:25.860 And that one was caused by PG&E because one of the power lines fell down.

00:31:29.820 Yeah.

00:31:30.540 Hmm.

00:31:31.180 And so they're getting sued right now for that.

00:31:33.160 Wow.

00:31:34.040 But can a fire smolder for that long?

00:31:38.060 I've been told yes, it could smolder for a number of days, even weeks.

00:31:43.360 It's because it's really dry there.

00:31:44.980 There hadn't been rain for a long time.

00:31:46.780 I even looked.

00:31:47.540 There was literally NASA satellite imagery of you could see.

00:31:51.420 Like the hotspot.

00:31:52.300 Mm-hmm.

00:31:52.540 Like, and it doesn't necessarily have to be, like, smoking, from my understanding.

00:31:56.120 It could be, like, under the earth, it could be, like, hot.

00:32:00.200 Right.

00:32:00.720 And then any kind of wind condition, you could, like, I don't know how it really works from

00:32:05.180 a scientific perspective, but it's like starting a fire.

00:32:06.840 It's like starting a fire in a campsite.

00:32:09.060 Like, you can, under the right conditions, the fire will start.

00:32:11.500 So I think the issue here, in terms of the liability, is that the fire department is supposed

00:32:14.800 to go back in and check it to make sure that it has been put out.

00:32:18.380 Got it.

00:32:18.620 And because they didn't do that, the liability is now on them in terms of the damage.

00:32:23.200 I mean, there's billions of dollars of damage now, which opposes, I mean, which is contradictory

00:32:28.260 to what they said, which is, like, the fire is dead out.

00:32:30.320 We did our job.

00:32:31.320 What were they saying was the original cause of the fire?

00:32:33.460 Well, they said it was just, like, an act of God.

00:32:35.520 It was like, you know, there's no way to stop this because it was so crazy.

00:32:38.660 The wind and the-

00:32:39.800 Poseidon or whatever.

00:32:40.400 Yeah, yeah.

00:32:40.900 Zeus did it.

00:32:41.600 Yeah, exactly.

00:32:42.380 And this is what Spencer Pratt's been going on.

00:32:44.020 He's like, this is not, like, just some crazy thing.

00:32:47.180 It could have been easily preventable if you guys had done your job.

00:32:50.240 But what was the issue with the fundraising?

00:32:52.640 Were they giving the-

00:32:53.240 Oh, the fundraising.

00:32:54.460 So there's actually, I think they're getting sued as well now because that was, like,

00:32:58.120 from, like, six or eight months ago when I was doing that video.

00:33:00.560 But what happened there was, like, they collected a bunch of money from this, like, concert,

00:33:05.720 right?

00:33:05.880 This, like, benefit concert.

00:33:08.580 And they're supposed to go to the fire victims.

00:33:10.740 But then when you do, like, when you partner with a non-profit, a lot of that money first

00:33:16.040 just gets absorbed by the non-profit for, like, administrative things.

00:33:19.300 Yeah, holiday parties, shit like that or whatever.

00:33:21.800 Exactly.

00:33:22.520 And then from what I understand, like, I've talked to a few residents, like, we didn't

00:33:26.100 see any of the money.

00:33:26.980 Like, how do we get this?

00:33:27.820 And then there's people or organizations that can sign up to get that money distributed

00:33:32.820 to them.

00:33:33.480 And there would be other companies like diaper companies or whatever it is, like services.

00:33:39.280 Diaper companies?

00:33:40.020 So, like, for example, these companies come in and say, well, we can help distribute diapers

00:33:45.060 to residents that have lost their homes.

00:33:47.680 But then now that creates another bureaucratic step for if you've lost your home, like, you

00:33:51.780 just want a check.

00:33:53.120 Like, just give me some money so I can, like, survive.

00:33:55.000 I don't want to go to this organization to, like, collect a diaper because I have a child.

00:33:59.220 It just makes things, like, way more complicated that way.

00:34:01.180 I understand.

00:34:01.680 So, it's a lot of, they'll donate it to these other places, maybe a friend's charity, whatever

00:34:05.180 this is.

00:34:05.620 Yes, exactly.

00:34:05.920 And the next thing you know, it's been distributed to all these different spots and there's not

00:34:08.880 any actual money.

00:34:09.120 And then the residents, they don't know, like, where the spots are.

00:34:12.280 And so, it's a lot easier for them to say, hey, this is the deed to my house.

00:34:14.820 It burned down.

00:34:15.480 Can I collect my $5,000?

00:34:16.700 Or whatever the distribution was.

00:34:18.300 Right.

00:34:18.520 It would be a lot easier to do it that way.

00:34:20.140 But the people who organize this is the Balmer Group, which owns the Clippers and the stadium

00:34:25.020 in LA.

00:34:26.100 But you think they would want to then do the most human thing then if it's they're owning

00:34:31.080 the Clippers, you know what I'm saying?

00:34:32.680 They want the fans to come to their games.

00:34:34.320 Well, I think they thought they were doing the humane thing, but it's like, I think it's

00:34:38.060 just that the corruption of the system is like, well, we have all these charities that

00:34:41.560 we already work with, so let's, like, bring them into the fold of this.

00:34:45.380 But it's not, like, the best solution.

00:34:46.980 The best solution is just to give people the money that need the help.

00:34:50.680 But then now they're just enriching, you know, the people who are their friends, like, all

00:34:53.300 their, you know, partners that are doing all these nonprofits.

00:34:56.260 They get a little bit of a cut as well, you know, through this process.

00:34:59.100 You just want a little cut.

00:35:00.300 Yeah.

00:35:00.800 In its report, the House Judiciary Committee stated money went to left-leaning pet projects,

00:35:04.740 illegal aliens, and the administrative costs related to running nonprofit organizations.

00:35:09.940 This is from CBS News.

00:35:11.440 You had examples of funds used for voter outreach efforts towards political advocacy groups,

00:35:15.660 towards podcasters, fungus planning.

00:35:18.300 Those examples are pretty troubling.

00:35:20.960 I do want to be clear.

00:35:21.920 There were many organizations that got funds, nonprofits that are certainly very worthy nonprofits.

00:35:27.000 I think there was one.

00:35:27.860 I was talking to Aloe Black, because he involved his house burned down.

00:35:32.700 And he was like, I don't understand why the, what was it, the community college of, like, Pasadena is getting money for this.

00:35:40.160 Like, they didn't, like, why do they need money?

00:35:41.680 Right.

00:35:42.780 I don't know.

00:35:43.160 So, I think it's more of like, hey, if you wanted to maximally benefit the people, you would do the right thing,

00:35:49.620 and you'd just give the money to the people.

00:35:50.980 Like, show a record that you own this house, and then come and collect your check,

00:35:54.840 versus all this bureaucratic shit, where people can take it.

00:35:57.580 They're just trying to, the problem with California is, like, they want to, they have,

00:36:01.560 there's problems that they need to solve, but they need to create, the solution always involves, like,

00:36:05.500 people being able to, like, stick their hand in the cookie jar and taking a cut here, taking a cut there.

00:36:09.480 And then by the time the money goes to the people who need it, it's like, a lot less of it actually is there.

00:36:15.180 There's no dessert left, really.

00:36:16.800 Yeah.

00:36:17.260 For the people that need it most.

00:36:18.480 Oh, wait.

00:36:18.760 Robertson is an attorney representing Palisades fire victims in a civil case against the city.

00:36:22.260 He says public records obtained by the LA Times add credibility to his claim that the Lockman fire was not properly extinguished.

00:36:29.600 Okay.

00:36:32.420 A new report from LA Times claims the Los Angeles Fire Department tried to protect Mayor Karen Bass from reputational harm.

00:36:39.480 It was smoldering right on the top of the ground, and we have numerous hikers that took video that called 911 that still took photographs.

00:36:46.840 So, they're definitely, there's so much evidence that the fire wasn't properly put out.

00:36:52.040 So, they're under, I mean, the state of California is getting sued because technically I think it's a state land.

00:36:57.180 Mm-hmm.

00:36:57.440 And I think now, it's funny, I heard Spencer talking about this.

00:37:04.620 Karen Bass is like trying to join that lawsuit against Gavin Newsom.

00:37:08.700 She's like trying to, you know, she's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, I'm also been wronged in this situation as well.

00:37:13.700 It was Gavin Newsom.

00:37:14.500 So, they're all pointing fingers at this point.

00:37:16.720 I mean, that's Malibu.

00:37:17.880 But then, okay, so, but then the, I want to do, the outcome of this is like many homes being burned down and then corporations coming in to buy these homes.

00:37:26.300 Yeah.

00:37:27.160 You know, if you, I think you could probably look up a stat, like more than 50% of houses that have been purchased in LA after the fires were purchased by corporations.

00:37:35.360 In fire districts or just anywhere?

00:37:37.440 No, no, no.

00:37:37.780 In the fire areas that burned down.

00:37:39.780 I saw, there was a headline of this for sure.

00:37:42.740 Got it.

00:37:43.220 Like, the houses that have burned, I think, not of just regular homes, I think.

00:37:49.840 Let me see if we got to fact check that.

00:37:51.680 Investors are buying close to half the empty lots in LA burn zones, report says.

00:37:58.380 That's including researchers with the online real estate listings platform.

00:38:02.100 Redfin reached in a new report published Tuesday.

00:38:04.220 Analyzing transactions in LA County burn zones during July, August, and September.

00:38:07.840 They found that about 40% of Pacific Palisades vacant lots went to corporate buyers in both Altadena and Malibu.

00:38:14.920 About 44% of such vacant lot sales went to investors.

00:38:19.640 Huh.

00:38:21.160 I wonder, though, is there some benefit?

00:38:24.180 Maybe they're putting it into just a business or an LLC.

00:38:28.880 I wonder if there's some other benefit of doing it that way.

00:38:31.880 You know what I'm saying?

00:38:32.720 Like, maybe there's a different, maybe it's insurable that way and maybe regular homes.

00:38:37.340 You know what I'm saying?

00:38:37.800 Like, I wonder if there's something else that adjusts that.

00:38:40.340 I don't, I mean, if, I don't think so.

00:38:42.060 I mean, it seems like, at the very least, you could argue the size of the investor.

00:38:46.040 Are they BlackRock or is it, like, some person who owns, like, five homes?

00:38:49.720 Got it.

00:38:49.980 Right?

00:38:50.280 That could be something to discuss, but it's certainly not people who live there.

00:38:54.580 Like, if you want your home and you live there, it's not like that.

00:38:57.520 It's not, like, for your family.

00:38:58.940 It's, like, this guy's buying the home to, like, rent it out or to flip it or something like that.

00:39:03.320 Yeah.

00:39:03.580 Which isn't ideal for, you know, home ownership and, you know, you want people to live in the home.

00:39:10.680 Yeah.

00:39:11.180 And you can get a homestead exemption that way.

00:39:12.720 I mean, I just, you know, or there's different things, like, if it's your primary residence.

00:39:16.340 Oh, before I forget, yeah, what got you deplatformed?

00:39:20.520 Let's talk about that.

00:39:21.260 And then let's get into the Epstein stuff because that's kind of current and we'll go down some rabbit holes here with one of the lead hares here.

00:39:28.260 For sure.

00:39:30.120 Well, so TikTok, they never tell you why you're banned.

00:39:34.260 Yeah, none of these places kind of do.

00:39:35.600 No, you don't know.

00:39:36.740 They just, one day, you're banned.

00:39:38.240 Some people have warnings and strikes before they're banned.

00:39:41.640 I wasn't in that situation.

00:39:43.000 I had a good standing account with no issues and all of a sudden I was banned.

00:39:46.260 I was banned twice, actually.

00:39:47.520 So the first time I was banned, you can only now context clues.

00:39:50.980 The first time was when I did a video about how our FBI director, Kash Patel, might be getting honeypotted.

00:39:59.400 People have been talking about that.

00:40:01.500 I don't know.

00:40:01.940 I never saw.

00:40:02.600 I was just reading other people's sort of reporting and who she was.

00:40:06.760 And it's like, hey, this seems like kind of a weird relationship.

00:40:08.980 Like, does she work?

00:40:10.580 She's working closely with PragerU, which is basically like an Israeli-run outlet.

00:40:15.260 There's an intelligence officer that runs PragerU.

00:40:18.240 So is she involved in that?

00:40:19.200 And then it got banned after that.

00:40:21.020 But then I was able to get that restored, actually, through a friend who knew somebody at TikTok.

00:40:26.260 They're like, okay, I think we can help get you back on.

00:40:28.860 So then I was back.

00:40:30.300 And then the next time happened very shortly after I was named Anti-Semite of the Week by that group Stop Anti-Semitism.

00:40:38.780 Oh, yeah.

00:40:39.180 Of the Week?

00:40:39.760 They're doing the weekly?

00:40:41.620 I don't even know that they're doing it weekly now.

00:40:43.940 They're doing it weekly, yeah.

00:40:46.360 Yeah, there you go.

00:40:47.060 Oh, yeah.

00:40:47.400 There you go.

00:40:47.660 I remember Tucker Carlson was on this, too.

00:40:50.200 Who won?

00:40:51.100 Did you get into it?

00:40:51.860 Tucker won.

00:40:52.560 Tucker won.

00:40:53.140 Yeah.

00:40:53.560 I mean, he was just in Israel.

00:40:54.820 I don't know if you saw some of that interview with him and Huckabee.

00:40:58.380 Oh, yeah, I did, dude.

00:40:59.380 It's definitely pretty baffling.

00:41:00.540 Yeah.

00:41:01.080 What was one of the takeaways from the Huckabee interview that you found interesting?

00:41:03.560 Well, I thought it was really interesting how Huckabee was just being so open about what the project is there.

00:41:10.380 He's like, yeah, I want Israel to take the whole thing.

00:41:12.880 Because Tucker was saying, hey, based on—

00:41:14.620 About Gaza, you mean?

00:41:15.620 About—

00:41:16.100 Not Gaza.

00:41:16.540 The Middle East.

00:41:17.100 The whole Middle East, basically.

00:41:18.740 Yeah.

00:41:18.820 Because he was talking about how, based on Scripture, this whole land is like the greater Israel project.

00:41:26.440 Yeah.

00:41:26.580 And he's like, oh, yeah, you have a biblical right to do this.

00:41:28.760 And are you okay with Israel taking the whole thing, which includes other countries like Jordan and Lebanon and Saudi Arabia, Iran, all these countries?

00:41:37.180 And Huckabee's like, yeah, I'm good with that.

00:41:39.700 Yeah.

00:41:40.480 I mean, it's pretty baffling.

00:41:43.340 I mean, Huckabee just really—it feels like he's more of a politician for Israel than America.

00:41:49.240 Well, that's certainly the case.

00:41:50.440 I mean, he's the ambassador, right?

00:41:51.560 He is the ambassador, but he also met with Jonathan Pollard, who's the spy, convicted spy, you know, traitor to America.

00:42:00.000 And he met him on the—at the American embassy in Jerusalem, which is, you know, I mean, it's pretty fucked up.

00:42:05.780 I mean, yeah, unless he was—yeah.

00:42:07.680 There was actually a clip, and he was like, I didn't meet with—there was not a meeting.

00:42:10.720 Or he was like, it wasn't a meeting, but I'd meet with people all the time.

00:42:14.320 It was more of like, I was there with him.

00:42:17.860 Okay.

00:42:19.840 Call it what you will.

00:42:20.760 Yeah.

00:42:20.940 Oh, so—

00:42:23.180 But I have a theory around this, because I was like, why was—why would he even want to do this?

00:42:26.800 Why would they want to telegraph it so nakedly to people and basically say that, yeah, Israel controls American foreign policy?

00:42:33.440 That's kind of a crazy thing to do.

00:42:36.440 And why was Tucker even allowed to do this interview?

00:42:40.140 And I have this theory of, like, basically both parties, the Democrat and the Republicans, they need to create these release valves for the base in order to keep it intact.

00:42:50.000 Like, they have that on the left with, like, Bernie Sanders, AOC.

00:42:53.200 I see them as kind of a release valve to get people back in the Democratic Party fold.

00:42:58.660 Right.

00:42:59.240 Instead of going to a third party or something else.

00:43:01.460 You know, like the last election in Michigan, they had this non-committed vote in Michigan where people really—because they didn't want to vote for a Democrat because they're supporting the genocide in Gaza.

00:43:11.600 And they voted for this non-committed party line.

00:43:15.800 I'm not going to vote for anybody.

00:43:17.000 And that was actually a Democratic Party move to insert that in because if they didn't vote the uncommitted, they would have voted Green Party.

00:43:25.740 And they didn't want people to vote Green Party.

00:43:28.880 I see.

00:43:29.200 So they created this other thing that made them feel some type of way.

00:43:32.120 Yeah, exactly.

00:43:32.440 But really, it was owned by the Democratic Party.

00:43:34.620 So it was—

00:43:35.180 Right.

00:43:35.500 And they both do that.

00:43:36.260 I think you're right.

00:43:36.800 On both sides, there's like—

00:43:37.900 And Tucker is the release valve, I think, on the right, where it's like people are kind of fed up with the whole, like, prioritizing Israel before everything else.

00:43:46.520 So Tucker creates this, like, okay, at least somebody's saying this stuff.

00:43:51.000 So, like, we feel a little bit better.

00:43:52.540 But do you think he's an instrument of the Republican Party to do that?

00:43:56.420 That's the—I mean, I wouldn't know.

00:43:57.620 You would have to ask him about that.

00:43:58.800 I think he's—from my understanding, I only know people who know him.

00:44:01.880 I don't—I've never spoken to Tucker, so I don't know what—you know, I don't really know anything about him.

00:44:06.020 But I think, in general, he seems to me, from the outside looking in, sort of a guy who wants to do the right thing, report on the right stuff.

00:44:13.360 I think he really feels really bad about the Iraq War.

00:44:15.800 I mean, you've spoken to him, so you can tell me more.

00:44:17.700 Like, it seems like he's remorseful for the fact that he was such a big champion of a war that got, like, a million Iraqis killed, thousands of Americans, created geopolitical chaos.

00:44:27.120 He mentioned that in the Huckabee interview, some of that.

00:44:28.820 He mentions that kind of stuff a lot.

00:44:30.600 Yeah.

00:44:30.980 To me, he seems genuine.

00:44:32.660 I mean—

00:44:33.460 But he could—it doesn't mean—but he could still be used by the party apparatus, right?

00:44:37.180 For sure.

00:44:37.520 It's like, yo, you want to do this interview?

00:44:38.800 We'll allow you to do this interview.

00:44:40.060 Right.

00:44:40.780 Oh, I see what you're saying.

00:44:42.200 Right.

00:44:42.480 Like, even—that might even be a way of being used that you don't even realize it.

00:44:45.740 Exactly.

00:44:46.160 Because you give somebody a—like, okay, you can interview this guy of ours.

00:44:50.880 We know he'll say some things.

00:44:52.820 Yeah.

00:44:53.000 It'll let people—some will be like, oh, I was right, and it lets a little bit of steam out of the kettle.

00:44:59.960 Exactly.

00:45:00.400 Got it.

00:45:01.220 That's one thing I realized about when I was sitting with Bernie recently is, yeah, he just kind of yells these things.

00:45:07.400 And I've been a Bernie guy.

00:45:09.120 I wanted Trump and Bernie to be on the same ticket years ago.

00:45:11.800 Yeah, that would have been wild, huh?

00:45:12.840 It would have been great because I feel like you need to have two people that have different views on the same ticket, like a president and a vice president then.

00:45:19.600 Whoever loses becomes a vice president in the election.

00:45:22.460 That's how they used to do it.

00:45:23.320 The first three elections were done.

00:45:24.420 That's how it should be done because then you have somebody that you have differing opinions, who has differing opinions than you, and you guys are in the same office, and you guys have to figure things out, right?

00:45:34.540 Like, to me, that makes sense, right?

00:45:36.460 It seems like the most democratic way to go about it.

00:45:38.660 But what I realized, it's like, yeah, he's coming here and yelling these things.

00:45:43.280 He's been yelling the same things for 30 years.

00:45:46.360 Yeah, and nothing is really getting done.

00:45:48.580 And then when you look at everything, it's like, oh, wait, we've all been yelling the same things for 30 years.

00:45:53.940 Nothing is getting – it's all like you start to realize that the politicians and the people – like politicians are coming on a regular podcast and we're just yelling at the people.

00:46:05.100 Like, we've got to do this.

00:46:05.960 It's like, motherfucker, we voted you to go do it.

00:46:10.240 Don't vote us to send you up the mountain and then you just come back down and be like, we've got to do it.

00:46:15.340 Like, bitch, we just sent you to say we've got to do it.

00:46:18.020 So that's when I realized, oh, it's just this – and I think everybody realizes that –

00:46:22.260 It's a little bit like theater is what you're saying.

00:46:23.900 It's a shell game.

00:46:24.900 Yeah.

00:46:25.220 And it's – yes, it's theater.

00:46:27.040 And I think everybody's starting to see that.

00:46:28.740 And so I think it's – to me, I think it's getting very interesting right now, which in some ways also is kind of exciting.

00:46:35.080 Well, I think – I mean that's one of the things I do appreciate about Trump is that they are saying some of these things just very nakedly.

00:46:43.040 So then we could just have the conversation about the real thing, right?

00:46:45.700 It's like when we go take Maduro in Venezuela, it's not like some bullshit about democracy or this and that.

00:46:51.760 It's like, oh, yeah, no, we do want the oil.

00:46:53.300 That is a primary reason why we're going over there.

00:46:55.520 So then we don't have to do this whole rigmarole, this dance around why we're actually there.

00:47:00.240 It's like, oh, we want the oil.

00:47:01.100 So then we could decide, is this really good?

00:47:02.800 Do you really want to be the country that everybody hates?

00:47:04.980 I just – I want to take Greenland, so I'm going to have it.

00:47:06.840 I'm going to take Venezuela.

00:47:08.160 I'm going to take Cuba.

00:47:09.080 Is that really good or is it better for U.S. standing in the world to like do more diplomacy to get what we want versus just like straight up just sending aircraft carriers or like the SEAL team to go in there and do the thing?

00:47:23.540 I agree.

00:47:24.580 I mean, and I think there's a part of us now that like you're even looking back at historical – like I'll watch old movies, like war movies now, and it's like I remember as a child I'd be like, oh, yeah, America, we did it, right?

00:47:35.540 And then you watch now and you're like, oh, what are we doing there?

00:47:39.440 Well, that's the Top Gun was like basically the Iran strike.

00:47:43.040 It was literally the plot is the same, the new Top Gun.

00:47:45.400 Oh, I blame Miles Teller for that, and he knows it.

00:47:49.240 I'm just joking, Miles.

00:47:51.240 Oh, you mean the original one you mean?

00:47:53.300 The original – oh, the new Top Gun.

00:47:54.420 The new Top Gun with Miles Teller, yeah.

00:47:55.980 Oh, so you're saying that –

00:47:56.820 Because that was a strike on a uranium facility in Iran.

00:48:00.900 That was the plot of the movie.

00:48:02.020 Oh, wow.

00:48:02.920 And do you think that they knew – like, okay, hold on.

00:48:05.060 There's a couple of rabbit holes here that we're kind of burying eggs in here.

00:48:07.680 But first, let me – you mentioned Venezuela, right?

00:48:11.880 What do you think happened in Venezuela?

00:48:13.100 Because here are things that just a regular person I heard.

00:48:15.700 There was minerals that we wanted over there.

00:48:18.060 They were one of the few programs that had like their own financial system, so they weren't on the world financial system.

00:48:25.000 And then that they had done something with voting machines.

00:48:30.240 That was something I kept seeing online, that they had some part to do with the voting machines.

00:48:35.360 In hindsight, what did you see about Venezuela, or what were some of the kind of the conspiracy, the ivermectin holes you were in?

00:48:44.180 Well, I think Venezuela is really interesting in the sense that, yeah, like you said, there weren't a part of this system.

00:48:49.320 But they were kind of forced into that position.

00:48:51.500 But they weren't a part of what system?

00:48:52.740 The financial system?

00:48:53.700 The Western financial system.

00:48:55.040 Because they've been sanctioned by the United States for like 20 years, roughly.

00:49:00.060 And I only learned about this when I was digging into this because I don't know much about Venezuela, but I wanted to learn about the history.

00:49:05.120 So I was like, okay, let me do some searches on the internet and see what they're telling us in the news versus like what the history books are saying.

00:49:13.280 And so it was like, I can't remember what year, but like Hugo Chavez came to power as like the socialist party in Venezuela.

00:49:19.920 And he started nationalizing the oil and he started doing programs to improve life expectancy and other important metrics in the country, like making people earn more money, all this stuff.

00:49:32.440 So like people's life, what do they call this?

00:49:36.100 They call them-

00:49:37.000 Quality of life?

00:49:38.060 Sorry, yes.

00:49:38.720 People's quality of life was improving in Venezuela, but the U.S. didn't like the fact that they were, you know, socialists.

00:49:45.540 So we don't want socialism.

00:49:46.560 So then the Obama administration actually deemed Venezuela like an enemy to America.

00:49:52.880 So then we started sanctioning them.

00:49:54.560 So once we started sanctioning them, they had to start doing deals with other countries that weren't a part of the U.S. system.

00:50:00.760 So they started doing deals with like Russia and China.

00:50:03.500 And now fast forward 20 years later, we're like, these guys are selling oil to China.

00:50:06.900 They're selling oil to Russia.

00:50:08.040 We don't like this.

00:50:09.180 But then you look back, like, well, you forced them to sell them to those countries.

00:50:12.080 Those are the only countries that aren't a part of your block.

00:50:14.860 So then those are the only countries they could sell it to.

00:50:17.240 So then they're like, oh, the Venezuelan economy is so bad.

00:50:20.500 They've, you know, everybody lives in poverty.

00:50:22.720 It was like part of the reason for that is like you don't allow them to trade with any of our allies.

00:50:27.740 Right.

00:50:27.860 We cut them off at a time when they were growing.

00:50:29.740 Yeah, exactly.

00:50:30.420 Why would we want to stop them from growing stronger, do you feel like?

00:50:33.360 Well, because their government was socialist.

00:50:35.320 So now all of a sudden you have a socialist regime.

00:50:37.820 That's doing well.

00:50:38.600 Doing well right in sort of your backyard area, which is not ideal for sort of our capitalist kind of style.

00:50:47.700 Like you don't want an example of that here.

00:50:49.840 That's just my opinion.

00:50:50.700 So then they started sanctioning.

00:50:52.300 So it's a bipartisan thing.

00:50:53.480 It's not just Trump government.

00:50:54.440 Obama government started this, right, with the sanctioning.

00:50:57.580 Trump added on.

00:50:58.520 Got it.

00:50:58.780 Like made it more, you know, robust, the sanctions.

00:51:01.720 And then all of a sudden, wow, we got to get this guy out of power because, you know, he's smuggling drugs or something like that.

00:51:08.280 But also he was very open about the oil.

00:51:10.160 Like he's like, we got to get the oil.

00:51:11.600 But then part of it also, too, I think is the Israel part is like a side piece, but it does play an important piece.

00:51:18.080 What do you mean the Israel part?

00:51:19.640 So like basically whatever country that opposes Israel, they basically tell us like we got to take that country out.

00:51:25.180 We got to do a regime change.

00:51:26.380 So like a lot of that is in the Middle East.

00:51:27.800 But there's some other countries, for example, in Venezuela, they are very opposed to the Israeli government.

00:51:34.200 Maduro was very open about calling what's happening in Gaza a genocide.

00:51:37.720 And so they're like, we got to get rid of this.

00:51:41.400 And this is something I learned 20 years ago.

00:51:44.540 There was an opposition guy.

00:51:45.800 I can't remember his name, but he was running for president.

00:51:48.480 And the media kind of slandered him or they smeared him as a homosexual and a Zionist.

00:51:56.120 So to me, that's like, okay, that means within the Venezuelan culture, Zionism is a bad thing.

00:52:03.460 They're ascribing to this guy.

00:52:04.880 So I think Israel will come in and say, this is a country that doesn't really support our existence.

00:52:09.480 We should do a regime change.

00:52:11.300 I see.

00:52:12.020 So you're thinking that part of this was that Israel wanted to come in and have some effect on a country that doesn't support them.

00:52:18.100 Exactly.

00:52:18.880 And you see that happening with other countries that are not.

00:52:21.040 I mean, Iran is probably the main one right now.

00:52:23.040 That's like the last of their list.

00:52:24.580 I saw you talking to Dave Smith about this, right?

00:52:26.320 There's like a list of seven countries.

00:52:28.280 From like the neocons and stuff like that.

00:52:29.940 Yeah, exactly.

00:52:30.120 Like wanting to take over.

00:52:31.140 Yeah, exactly.

00:52:31.920 So then Iran is on that list.

00:52:33.260 So it's like, that's why we got to take it out.

00:52:34.440 Even though we have no nuclear weapons at this point, supposedly.

00:52:39.220 They told us.

00:52:41.220 They did.

00:52:41.820 Well, I mean, one of the things is Henry Capriles.

00:52:45.700 Thank you.

00:52:46.360 Yes, this is the guy I was talking about.

00:52:48.100 Enrique Capriles Radonsky is a Venezuelan politician who served as the 36th governor of Miranda.

00:52:56.060 He ran against Nicolas Maduro in Venezuela's 2013 presidential election.

00:53:00.620 Maduro and his supporters spread rumors about Capriles homosexuality as a smear tactic, including public slurs.

00:53:06.600 Enrique Capriles Radonsky was labeled a Zionist by Venezuelan state media and Chavez Maduro allies.

00:53:10.920 Because these accusations framed him as tied to international Zionism, often alongside his Jewish heritage.

00:53:16.380 Oh, so he was a Jewish guy.

00:53:17.400 Well, it seemed like they shouldn't have done that to him.

00:53:24.940 But I guess that's how the media works, right?

00:53:26.400 That's how the media works, yeah.

00:53:28.280 It's a state-controlled media, which we have a lot of nowadays with like CBS News is sort of, I would say, state-controlled media since it was sold off to Larry Ellison.

00:53:37.060 Yeah, Barry Weiss started controlling over there.

00:53:39.680 How do you feel about that that's been since she took over, kind of?

00:53:43.840 Well, it hasn't really worked out.

00:53:46.200 I think once she took it over, it was very overtly clear what they were trying to do, right?

00:53:50.960 They were doing pieces that were saying good stuff about Marco Rubio.

00:53:55.340 They were hailing him as some kind of genius guy.

00:53:57.600 They were also doing pro-Israel propaganda.

00:54:01.060 So it was very, I think it's very clear to people who consumed the news what was going on.

00:54:04.920 And it's actually, I think that's a playbook that's maybe a little bit outdated because not that many people get their news directly from CBS News anymore.

00:54:13.920 Right.

00:54:14.220 There's like, that crowd is decreasing.

00:54:16.700 It's like old people.

00:54:18.440 I don't want to say.

00:54:19.200 Yeah, no.

00:54:19.860 Well, a lot of people don't even have a cable anymore.

00:54:21.720 I don't even know where you would find it.

00:54:22.620 Some of it is, I don't even know where you'd find it.

00:54:23.920 It's like it used to be you knew where the news channels were.

00:54:25.680 It used to be like you knew who the nightly anchor was at all these news, like the Walter Cronkite.

00:54:30.400 And now it's because now you have like Don Lemon like tickling some guy in a church or whatever, you know, just trying to like tickle the holy water out of some honky or whatever.

00:54:38.060 And you're like, what is even happening anymore?

00:54:39.520 So I think just an outdated strategy.

00:54:40.940 They think, oh, I want to buy the news so I can control the news.

00:54:43.540 Got it.

00:54:43.760 But it turns out people don't really like that.

00:54:45.800 People know that.

00:54:46.620 And that's the same thing that happened to Washington Post too, right?

00:54:48.540 Jeff Bezos bought the Washington Post.

00:54:50.260 He thought they were going to be able to do kind of pro-Bezos propaganda for him.

00:54:55.240 Turns out all his viewers or readers hated that.

00:54:57.720 They canceled.

00:54:58.880 And now, you know, they're doing, I think they just laid off like a third of their staff.

00:55:03.080 Wow.

00:55:03.740 And a lot of that media, it's just older media.

00:55:05.940 Yeah.

00:55:06.260 So it's just kind of like, you know, some of that realm is changing.

00:55:08.760 It's just like, not a changing regard, but it's like, you know, people want to come and just listen to something in a place where they feel like it's not being controlled anyway.

00:55:16.900 Yeah.

00:55:17.420 And I think there's, so there's, that way is old.

00:55:20.040 So then there's other ways they're trying to subversively control independent media as well.

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00:58:07.160 There's other ways they're trying to subversively control independent media as well.

00:58:13.100 And we can get into that if you want later on.

00:58:15.220 Well, yeah.

00:58:15.620 I mean, you got deplatformed.

00:58:17.100 So that was from TikTok, you said.

00:58:18.800 And it was from something that was...

00:58:20.900 Well, I think it was related to me being named Anti-Semite of the Week.

00:58:25.080 Okay.

00:58:25.880 And I think they have like tight connections because TikTok's moderation team is run by an IDF soldier.

00:58:32.060 Is it?

00:58:32.540 Yeah.

00:58:32.720 She was hired recently to run moderation at TikTok.

00:58:38.580 She's an American who moved to Israel, then got Israeli citizenship.

00:58:43.480 There it is.

00:58:44.080 Erica Mindel.

00:58:45.300 That's a pretty name.

00:58:48.880 IDF soldier, public policy manager of hate speech at TikTok.

00:58:52.720 Well, did you say something that was hate speech?

00:58:54.880 Well, according to them, yes, because I've been really critical of the Israeli government,

00:58:59.540 the genocide, all these subversive tactics.

00:59:01.880 They've, you know, they lied to us about all kinds of stuff.

00:59:03.820 So I do report on that.

00:59:05.200 And that is now considered hate speech at TikTok.

00:59:07.820 If you're...

00:59:08.540 So I'm criticizing the Netanyahu government, right, for what they've done.

00:59:11.800 That is now considered because of the definition.

00:59:14.980 Now they're basically saying anti-Zionism is anti-Semitism.

00:59:17.920 That is the definition that they're all adopting, including like the ADL.

00:59:21.620 So if I criticize the government, that's sort of a proxy for criticism of Jewish people.

00:59:30.220 Well, that seems...

00:59:31.320 To me, that seems bizarre.

00:59:32.740 I mean, I'm at the comedy store last night and people are having jokes that are anti-Israel

00:59:35.980 and the crowd is going nuts, right?

00:59:38.180 The entire crowd is cheering in those moments.

00:59:40.680 You know, it seems to be a very popular sentiment that people aren't going to support a government

00:59:45.080 that's doing what I believe is largely believed by most people these days to be a genocide

00:59:51.060 or to be, you know, some people will call it a new holocaust or whatever.

00:59:55.960 People call it different things, right?

00:59:57.300 Right.

00:59:57.840 But that most people believe that it's wrong, right?

01:00:00.120 People saw it.

01:00:00.960 You can't trick my heart.

01:00:03.740 You know what I'm saying?

01:00:04.160 It's just like if you've been...

01:00:05.940 If the media has been telling me for years with a holocaust definition that this is wrong,

01:00:09.620 then you can't show me the same thing and say now it's not wrong for some reason.

01:00:15.580 But also to not attach that to my Jewish friends.

01:00:18.180 Like I had Jewish friends who are in the audience this weekend and I make anti-Israel jokes

01:00:22.360 and they don't have a...

01:00:24.000 None of my friends have a problem with it, you know?

01:00:26.720 So I think I don't know how one really connects to the other, you know?

01:00:30.840 And I don't know if that's a...

01:00:32.940 Is that a problem of someone who's just trying to have a voice?

01:00:37.860 Or is that an Israel's problem that they need to figure out with their own behavior?

01:00:43.860 Is that kind of...

01:00:44.360 Does that make any sense to you?

01:00:45.560 Yeah, yeah.

01:00:46.340 I know exactly what you're saying.

01:00:47.540 I think part of it is too.

01:00:48.600 It's kind of a little bit dark, I think, what I'm about to say.

01:00:50.600 But I think part of them wants to create more anti-Semitism.

01:00:54.420 That's like sort of the goal is like you are not anti-Semitic at all.

01:00:58.060 You don't have any hatred towards Jewish people.

01:00:59.640 You think everybody should be treated the same depending...

01:01:01.800 Regardless of their, you know, creed or color, race, immutable traits, whatever.

01:01:05.720 And they want to make it so that you actually don't like them.

01:01:09.620 Because part of the Israel project is getting Jewish people to move to Israel.

01:01:14.580 This is what I've been told.

01:01:15.540 This is what I've been researching for the last couple of years.

01:01:18.220 Like that's part of their strategy.

01:01:19.220 There was a very famous Israeli podcaster who was like, oh, I love Mamdani.

01:01:25.860 And they were like, why do you love Mamdani?

01:01:27.400 He's like an anti-Semite.

01:01:29.240 I don't believe that's true.

01:01:30.500 But they're saying, hey, Mamdani is really anti-Israel.

01:01:33.060 He's like, this is great because this is going to get people to move to Israel.

01:01:37.540 That's what I want.

01:01:38.840 And so I think that's part of the strategy.

01:01:40.080 There's also another thing too with like a group like the Anti-Defamation League that

01:01:43.920 their whole job is like to reduce anti-Semitism, right?

01:01:47.420 Their job is combating anti-Semitism.

01:01:49.340 Well, that makes sense.

01:01:50.080 Like, I mean, I think you want to be able to protect like people.

01:01:53.020 So the crux of that is then you get into...

01:01:55.840 Has the ADL spoken out against the Israeli government?

01:01:58.760 No.

01:01:59.620 They're pretty much run by the Israeli government.

01:02:01.460 So that's the problem with the ADL.

01:02:02.740 But that would seem like something they should do is speak out against the leader.

01:02:07.220 No, the ADL has long been...

01:02:09.000 I did a whole mini documentary.

01:02:10.580 But does it make sense what I'm saying?

01:02:11.860 Like, why wouldn't you speak out against the bad guy?

01:02:14.580 Because the ADL is acting on behalf of the Israeli government as sort of a spy organization.

01:02:22.100 I mean, you could look at it as ADL...

01:02:23.100 So they're not a free-thinking group.

01:02:24.240 They're a group that is a...

01:02:25.580 Yeah, they're a civil...

01:02:26.800 They call themselves a civil rights group.

01:02:28.580 But what they're actually doing is trying to like create more anti-Semitic behavior in the United States.

01:02:36.400 Because if you think about it this way, like you have an organization.

01:02:38.600 Your whole thing is like combating anti-Semitism.

01:02:41.100 So let's say one day there's no more anti-Semitism.

01:02:44.400 What happens to this organization?

01:02:46.620 You're out of work.

01:02:47.420 You're out of work.

01:02:48.020 So then they got to create more anti-Semitism.

01:02:49.060 So every year the ADL has published the anti-Semitism report.

01:02:54.100 It's gone up every single year.

01:02:55.360 The same guy is still there.

01:02:56.380 I'm like, if you were the CEO of a company and you're doing shittier and shittier job, wouldn't you get fired?

01:03:01.900 Wouldn't somebody else go in there?

01:03:02.840 You would need that number to come down.

01:03:04.740 But every year the number is going up.

01:03:06.100 The donations are going up.

01:03:07.420 They're in a very nice building in New York City on Park Avenue.

01:03:11.200 So there's a whole industrial complex.

01:03:13.200 Same thing with the homeless.

01:03:14.240 I make the analogy of the homeless industrial complex in California where so much money is pouring into homelessness, but what happens if we actually solve this problem for all these organizations?

01:03:24.220 Like you need this to continue.

01:03:25.500 So then nothing gets done.

01:03:26.640 It's the same thing.

01:03:27.220 You need all these things to continue, right?

01:03:28.740 You need the racism to continue.

01:03:30.880 You need crime because then you have people living in fear, right?

01:03:34.880 Like you need all these things, right?

01:03:36.820 Because it does start to feel like we're living in a theater that's sort of controlled.

01:03:40.480 Yes.

01:03:41.640 Well, let's get into some stuff that's kind of current.

01:03:44.420 And do you feel like an anti-Semite?

01:03:46.460 Did you feel like that that was fair that they said that?

01:03:48.500 Well, no, absolutely not.

01:03:49.280 You can go to that article.

01:03:50.180 There's nothing in there that I said.

01:03:52.120 I don't – well, first of all, speaking personally, like I don't have any problem.

01:03:55.660 I have a lot of Jewish friends.

01:03:56.540 I went to school in New York.

01:03:57.880 So I'm very sort of connected in that community.

01:04:01.620 Yeah, and the bagel belt.

01:04:03.960 I mean, I wouldn't never – I would never sort of – I try to be like – I'm like so scared of even saying anything like that.

01:04:09.620 You know what I'm saying?

01:04:10.000 What, the bagel belt?

01:04:10.820 Yeah, I don't –

01:04:11.640 That's funny, dude.

01:04:13.120 Who doesn't love good bagels anyway?

01:04:17.160 My friend Max is opening a bagel shop in Florida right now.

01:04:19.380 Oh, I know.

01:04:19.700 I love good – I mean, every time I'm in New York, yeah, I'm eating bagels like every other meal.

01:04:23.320 Dude, what I don't like is when you go there and they don't have cinnamon raisin bagels.

01:04:25.920 Is that your thing?

01:04:26.980 Well, I just like to have it as an option.

01:04:28.640 If you're not giving that as an option, it makes me question you.

01:04:31.560 It's like, what if a kid comes in here?

01:04:33.180 What if somebody who wants to have a little bit of a sweeter day comes in?

01:04:35.880 Well, they got the blueberry for that.

01:04:37.900 Yeah.

01:04:38.920 I don't believe in that one.

01:04:41.540 Anyway, what do you say?

01:04:42.980 James Lee is a conspiracist who brands himself as a champion of the independent thought.

01:04:46.860 He uses his persona to spread longstanding anti-Semitic tropes and conspiracy theories.

01:04:51.080 His commentary distorts the nature of anti-Semitism and vilifies Jewish communities.

01:04:57.840 Damn, James.

01:04:59.440 Well, I challenged him to find an example of me vilifying a Jewish community, you know?

01:05:04.920 Yeah.

01:05:05.260 Well, it says right here they aren't even hiding it anymore.

01:05:07.380 Israel owns America.

01:05:08.400 Well, I mean, they do.

01:05:10.720 Well, let's talk about that for a second, man.

01:05:14.620 You know, because so much now there's like, why are we giving money to Israel?

01:05:18.580 You hear that all the time, right?

01:05:19.580 It's not even, you know, something that people are scared to even talk about anymore.

01:05:24.180 It's like, what are we sending all this money to Israel for?

01:05:26.580 And really just why is there the connection, right?

01:05:28.980 Like it's, and, and there's not like a clear answer sometimes.

01:05:32.920 It's never like, hey, this is our ally.

01:05:35.420 This, because, you know, this is, but yeah, you're like, we can't pay our nurses.

01:05:41.140 We can't, you know what I'm saying?

01:05:41.940 We don't have, like, we have issues in our public schools.

01:05:44.200 More people are choosing to homeschool than ever, which is just another burden on the family, really.

01:05:49.580 Right.

01:05:50.800 You know, our food supply has been deemed toxic, toxic, right?

01:05:55.980 That's something that we're battling right now.

01:05:57.980 Seventy percent of young men can't serve in the military because of the physical shape that they're in.

01:06:05.020 Right.

01:06:05.220 Like, um, so you start to wonder, uh, why do we have this extra money to just send to a place?

01:06:11.960 Right.

01:06:12.240 So that, that I think is a very fair question.

01:06:14.620 And I've been thinking about a lot and I do think, I don't think we're just sending money to a place.

01:06:19.780 I do believe that our country is owned by Israel and that, so you just give the money to the boss.

01:06:25.560 So it's not us getting, they're just getting the money that's, that's theirs.

01:06:31.040 That's theirs.

01:06:31.700 Yeah.

01:06:32.000 That's what I started to realize.

01:06:33.100 Cause I'm like, yeah, cause if you do this for so long and it doesn't make any, you know what I'm saying?

01:06:36.060 Like there's no answer.

01:06:37.420 It's like, oh, well, that's just, that's the boss coming in, just getting his money, you know?

01:06:41.780 And so, um, yeah, I just think that that's kind of where we're at.

01:06:45.400 And I don't mean that in an un-American way.

01:06:47.540 I think there's still like a lot of like strength and heart in the idea of America, but I've thought for a long time that we're just like an LLC, like we're a shell company that's owned by Israel.

01:06:56.220 And that's honestly just what it feels like, um, more and more.

01:07:00.120 Yeah.

01:07:00.520 Well, part of it, cause it's like, it's, you're, we're supposed to be like allies.

01:07:03.220 So then there's, we're supposed to have like cooperation.

01:07:05.340 You get something out of it.

01:07:06.680 We get something out of it.

01:07:07.980 But then I recently was listening to a podcast with that CIA guy.

01:07:11.180 I don't know if you've talked to him, uh, John Kiriakou, the long guy with the curly hair.

01:07:15.860 No, John Kiriakou looks like that.

01:07:18.560 Yep.

01:07:19.240 And is he a good guy?

01:07:20.840 He's a good, so he was the one that, um, he was the one that whistleblow the torture program after Iraq and in Guantanamo in those places.

01:07:29.100 Like, and he went to jail for two years because he, he violated some, some statute or whatever for, for telling us about that, that we were torturing, you know, people.

01:07:38.360 He told it.

01:07:39.580 Yeah.

01:07:39.780 CIA whistleblower John Kiriakou, who exposed the treatment of Al-Qaeda suspects held in secret prisons, told the Bureau today it was now down to journalists to tell the full story about the intelligence agency torture program because politicians did not have the will.

01:07:54.340 Um, okay, got it.

01:07:55.380 So I just wanted to get some clarity on who he is.

01:07:57.080 So anyways, he, so he was asked, is there like one particular intelligence agency that you just did not trust?

01:08:03.820 He was like, yeah, it was Mossad.

01:08:05.640 And he was telling the story about how every time Mossad comes into the CIA headquarters, they try to drop off some gift that has like a bug in it.

01:08:11.800 So the listening device and every single time they would catch them, like guys, you have to stop bringing these, these bugging devices into our headquarters.

01:08:19.360 And eventually I think the Mossad is, was, is no longer allowed at CIA headquarters because they keep trying to bug our conference rooms.

01:08:26.460 But they have to have, they have access to our conference rooms.

01:08:29.800 Like, you know what I'm saying?

01:08:30.440 Like, do you think that that's, oh, this was in the past?

01:08:32.820 You mean a recently?

01:08:33.800 Past.

01:08:34.120 Okay.

01:08:34.440 Got it.

01:08:34.940 Yeah.

01:08:35.220 So he was the one who was kind of, he was just saying that those were some stories from there.

01:08:38.060 Yeah.

01:08:38.080 So I'm like, this is not how an ally should act.

01:08:40.360 Right.

01:08:40.600 Cause we're supposed to be partners.

01:08:41.740 Like, why are you trying to bug our, you know, spy on us?

01:08:44.600 Right.

01:08:44.880 Right.

01:08:45.040 That's one of the things I think Tucker was talking to Ted Cruz, like, should Israel spy on us?

01:08:48.760 Like, is that something that they should do as an ally?

01:08:50.920 So that's what I'm saying.

01:08:51.520 It's like, this relationship is like a little bit like.

01:08:53.700 I think it was monitoring their employees.

01:08:55.420 Yeah.

01:08:55.700 Like a little bit of an abusive relationship is what is going on.

01:08:58.120 Right.

01:08:58.540 That's, that's kind of how I would view it in, in like a more like, you know, just like

01:09:03.520 a layman setting way of putting it is like, I think this is an abusive relationship.

01:09:07.320 They keep kicking us.

01:09:08.140 And then we keep going back to them and like saying, please, well, we'll do better next time

01:09:11.160 and we'll help you and this and that.

01:09:12.700 Well, what spurned this, I mean, the thing that spurned this is the, the stuff in Gaza.

01:09:16.600 That's what spurned so much of this people looking at Israel.

01:09:20.480 I mean, like, what is going on here?

01:09:22.740 Right.

01:09:23.300 That's what it broke for the regular American public.

01:09:25.700 I probably was, I was definitely not looking at Israel before.

01:09:28.740 The only weird thing that I saw that kind of got my sort of red flags raised was about

01:09:34.680 a year before that Israel had killed a journalist, an Al Jazeera journalist, who was, I believe,

01:09:40.180 an American Palestinian.

01:09:41.640 And they said, no, it was, they were caught in the line of fire or something like that.

01:09:44.420 But then it later came out that, yeah, they just executed her.

01:09:47.000 And I'm like, what's going on here?

01:09:48.420 This is very bizarre.

01:09:49.140 Like, why are they able to just kill journalists without any kind of, you know, international

01:09:52.920 condemnation or anything like that without any accountability?

01:09:56.640 So there's something weird going on here.

01:09:58.100 And then October 7th happened.

01:09:59.360 And that's when I think everybody started looking in and you do one search and like,

01:10:03.420 oh, this is, this is, you know, this is what, and Charlie Kirk was one of the first one,

01:10:08.120 like, I think two days after he was like, this is one of the, you know, why was, why did

01:10:12.400 this even happen?

01:10:13.120 Like, was there a stand down order kind of situation?

01:10:15.420 Like, how are they even able to come across the border?

01:10:17.360 This is one of the most secure borders in the world.

01:10:20.800 How did it take them six hours?

01:10:22.260 He's like, it takes 45 minutes to fly from Jerusalem to the border.

01:10:26.760 Why, why are you, you know, what's going on here?

01:10:30.060 Was there something to then create this excuse to then now launch like a counter-offensive,

01:10:36.400 quote unquote counter-offensive, and basically turn Gaza into rebel?

01:10:40.520 And do you think that that's what happened?

01:10:42.260 What do you feel like about it?

01:10:43.680 Well, I mean, this is based on my conjecture is that, yeah, I do think that-

01:10:46.720 What does conjecture mean?

01:10:48.320 Conjecture is like just me sort of coming up with a claim without knowing all the information

01:10:54.540 because of course I'm not in the security briefing room.

01:10:56.240 So guessing or whatever.

01:10:57.060 I'm guessing a little bit.

01:11:00.100 But Asian guessing has got to be better than just regular white guessing, yeah?

01:11:04.460 Some would say that.

01:11:05.620 Like when you guys guess, dude, I bet it's, you know.

01:11:08.220 Look, I got a pretty good track record of my conjectures.

01:11:11.300 I'll just put it that way.

01:11:12.100 Got it.

01:11:13.180 So there's no other explanation like why, you know, it would at most take one hour for

01:11:17.600 them to respond.

01:11:18.400 It took them six hours to respond.

01:11:20.040 It doesn't make any sense.

01:11:21.320 So then it's kind of like 9-11.

01:11:22.800 It's like some, we kind of knew some shit.

01:11:25.300 Like somebody knew something, right?

01:11:26.760 There was like the shorting of the airline stocks.

01:11:28.880 There were people taking insurance out on the building.

01:11:31.520 Somebody knew something.

01:11:32.380 In this situation, it seemed like there were people in the Israeli government who knew that this

01:11:36.140 was about to come and they just kind of let it happen, therefore creating the pretense

01:11:40.880 to then destroy Gaza.

01:11:43.040 Well, there was interesting that there was allegedly plans to like build buildings and

01:11:48.280 that sort of thing in Gaza years earlier.

01:11:50.900 I don't know if that's true or not, but I've heard that somewhere.

01:11:54.480 Allegedly.

01:11:54.980 And that's not the new thing with Jared Kushner and the new like Gaza plan?

01:11:59.420 Well, yeah.

01:11:59.960 It was like, let's do the mall over there.

01:12:01.300 We're going to build a five guys, you know?

01:12:02.840 But who's going to go eat on top of a haunted burial site of hundreds of thousands of people?

01:12:09.520 That's what I'm saying.

01:12:10.640 And it's like, do you really want a vacation there with your family?

01:12:13.300 Would you take your kids?

01:12:14.700 It's like, oh, we're going to go to, you know, I mean, I guess good real estate, but

01:12:18.780 it's like what happened?

01:12:19.600 But what if you're playing on the beach and there's just a bunch of bones in the scene?

01:12:21.740 You know what I'm saying?

01:12:22.160 Like, you know what I mean?

01:12:23.020 I wouldn't want to go there.

01:12:23.840 Oh, God.

01:12:24.100 Let's put it that way.

01:12:25.560 Let's go down some of the rabbit holes.

01:12:27.280 Like, cause, you know, these are things you like to investigate or get curious about.

01:12:31.660 So, um, let's start with Epstein in the files release.

01:12:35.160 Uh, what do you think's happening with the document release?

01:12:37.060 Cause it seems very odd as a regular guy that we're getting documents, right?

01:12:43.340 They're coming this years later, both parties have been in, in, uh, democratic and Republican

01:12:50.360 have been in office since then.

01:12:52.300 Right.

01:12:52.840 More than ever, it seems like both parties are just the same party with a different name.

01:12:56.900 That's, that's, that's literally my shirt.

01:12:58.800 Oh yeah.

01:12:59.160 Different brands, same ingredients.

01:13:00.900 Oh, that's hilarious.

01:13:02.640 So true.

01:13:03.580 Oh, it's almost like that Coca-Cola Pepsi war a little bit.

01:13:06.120 That's what I'm saying.

01:13:06.760 Oh, that's great.

01:13:08.240 Um, and so it's just an interesting time and the names that are redacted aren't the names

01:13:12.620 of the victims.

01:13:13.380 It's just like, there's so much going on there.

01:13:15.600 What, yeah.

01:13:15.880 What do you think about it?

01:13:16.920 Well, I mean, they tried, I mean, they, I don't think they thought these files would

01:13:20.120 ever come out.

01:13:21.040 Neither party.

01:13:22.140 Really?

01:13:22.700 Yeah.

01:13:23.000 I don't think they thought, I think they were going to bury this forever.

01:13:25.080 So you don't think it's a strategic release right now?

01:13:28.100 No, I think right now is like, this is what we're going to offer because they were forced

01:13:32.400 through that boat that Thomas Massey and Roe Connick, big credit to them to have the

01:13:37.480 political courage to keep going.

01:13:39.060 And we had them both on here.

01:13:40.240 Shout out, bro.

01:13:41.420 I will say that shit.

01:13:42.940 Pull up.

01:13:44.460 Um, but anyway, go on.

01:13:45.500 So take us into some of that.

01:13:46.540 Yeah.

01:13:46.640 What are some of the things that you feel like?

01:13:48.300 Yeah.

01:13:48.480 So, so you don't think it's strategic?

01:13:49.700 I don't think it's, I think this is, this is a release.

01:13:52.880 So you think it's an effect that they didn't want to do?

01:13:55.060 They didn't want to do this.

01:13:55.820 They didn't want to do this.

01:13:56.440 And so that's why you have all the names of the perpetrators being redacted, right?

01:14:00.500 They're only supposed to redact the victims' names.

01:14:02.720 A lot of the perpetrators' names are redacted and now they're forcing them to unredact them.

01:14:06.540 There's a whole process here.

01:14:07.480 But I think this is like, here, we'll put something out because we're legally compelled

01:14:11.360 to do it by the vote, right?

01:14:12.820 It was like past unanimous, but I think there's one person who voted present and because they

01:14:17.800 were forced.

01:14:18.100 You don't want to be on the record voting against disclosure, you know, putting pedophiles

01:14:23.540 in jail.

01:14:24.080 Like you don't want to be that guy or gal, right?

01:14:27.000 So then they were all forced to vote for it because they got, because they didn't, they

01:14:30.100 did not want that to get to the House floor or the Senate, but they had to vote for it

01:14:34.060 because once it was there, you don't want to be voting against it.

01:14:36.440 Like what, you're trying to cover up for billionaire pedophiles?

01:14:38.860 You don't want to be on the record doing that.

01:14:40.780 So I think this release was a result of that.

01:14:43.540 And in terms of the Epstein stuff, like what we're going to get into, I just want to say

01:14:46.320 like, there are a lot of people that have looked in the Epstein for decades.

01:14:50.480 Like if you want to bring, do a whole episode on Epstein, like you got to bring in somebody

01:14:53.460 like Whitney Webb or Julie Brown.

01:14:56.100 You know, she's from the Miami Herald.

01:14:57.220 She's been covering Epstein since like 2005.

01:14:59.040 Yeah.

01:14:59.140 Yeah.

01:14:59.240 We're trying to get her in actually.

01:15:00.280 So I'm just prefacing, it's like, Hey, we're going to look at this Epstein stuff, but

01:15:02.620 I want to give credit to like, those are the people that are like the Epstein experts.

01:15:05.300 I'm just the regular dude that looking at the files.

01:15:08.080 Yeah.

01:15:08.160 They've been digging.

01:15:08.780 You just came to kind of till the soil a little.

01:15:10.640 Exactly.

01:15:11.060 Exactly.

01:15:11.260 So then one big thing that I wanted to start out looking at was to answer the big question.

01:15:15.320 Do you remember when Kash Patel went in front of Congress and he said, we have zero evidence

01:15:19.360 that Epstein trafficked any young girls to anybody?

01:15:22.520 100%.

01:15:22.880 Right.

01:15:23.160 And everybody was like, what?

01:15:24.780 How is that possible?

01:15:25.540 You were railing about the Epstein files for years.

01:15:27.420 And now you go in and say you found nothing.

01:15:29.380 And so that was one of the first things like, Hey, do we have, do you want to play that first?

01:15:33.100 And this is my boy out of Louisiana right here.

01:15:35.000 Shout out.

01:15:35.540 So you've seen most of the files, uh, who, if anyone did Epstein traffic these young women

01:15:43.480 to besides himself, himself, there is no credible information, none.

01:15:49.540 If there were, I would bring the case yesterday that he trafficked to other individuals.

01:15:54.780 And the information we have again is limited.

01:15:57.020 So the answer is no one for the information that we have in the files, in the case file.

01:16:04.160 Okay.

01:16:04.440 All right, dude, I believe I'm not joking.

01:16:07.820 I, there's people that say that, that created like a fake office and everything for Patel

01:16:15.020 and we're just, and we're only giving him certain information.

01:16:17.360 Oh, so he didn't see the stuff that was, well, he's even what he said, if you listen

01:16:20.940 there from this limited, he said, did he say limited stuff I've seen or from what I've

01:16:24.840 seen, which has been limited.

01:16:27.660 So who knows if he even saw everything?

01:16:30.660 Right.

01:16:31.120 So he's, well, you're saying that somebody is even hiding something from him.

01:16:33.640 That means it's another person above a shadow figure.

01:16:37.520 That's right.

01:16:37.740 Like he goes into an office and has this perception that everything is a certain way and it's,

01:16:43.320 he doesn't, it's not, he doesn't know.

01:16:45.580 So then of course he's going to show up and he, what he's saying is the truth to him.

01:16:50.460 Right.

01:16:51.200 Because he even said from a limited, what did he say, Nick?

01:16:54.460 For the information that we have.

01:16:56.960 Well, they have it.

01:16:58.460 Well, right now he's denoting that, you know what I'm saying?

01:17:00.720 From the information that we have.

01:17:01.840 I bet he didn't even see all of this stuff.

01:17:03.800 Well, I bet he saw some of the, cause the stuff that has been released, some say it's

01:17:07.820 half, some say the channel four news in the UK say it's 2% of what the total is.

01:17:12.940 We don't know what the real number is, but so I, so one of the things I want to look at

01:17:16.420 is, is there anything in the, in the files that suggests that Epstein trafficked young

01:17:21.400 girls to other people other than himself?

01:17:23.260 Right.

01:17:23.440 That's a big question that we should all have answered and I'm not even looking.

01:17:27.160 So there's, there's within the files, there's the emails right between Epstein and a bunch

01:17:30.420 of other people, but there's also like FBI tip stuff where people are saying crazy.

01:17:34.740 This is where you see a lot of the Trump stuff is like people calling the tip line saying,

01:17:38.860 I saw Trump do this.

01:17:39.680 I saw Trump do that.

01:17:40.460 So I'm, I'm like removing that stuff.

01:17:42.180 I'm just going off the emails to say, look, does it look like, and there's one email chain

01:17:46.760 between Epstein and Steve Tisch and Steve Tisch is the owner of the New York Giants.

01:17:52.460 Is he really?

01:17:53.100 Yeah.

01:17:53.300 Shout out Jackson Dart.

01:17:54.680 And so go, go.

01:17:55.860 So let's start at the bottom.

01:17:56.680 Cause this is the, let's do it in chronological order.

01:17:58.540 Right.

01:17:59.040 Okay.

01:17:59.740 I don't know if you want to read or, or you want me to read?

01:18:01.500 Um, you be, I'll be, I don't know who to be.

01:18:04.420 I'll be, I guess I'll be Tish.

01:18:06.740 Okay.

01:18:07.180 All right.

01:18:07.400 All right.

01:18:08.220 Okay.

01:18:08.720 Uh, and you be Epstein.

01:18:10.080 Yeah.

01:18:10.700 Uh, hi Jeffrey.

01:18:12.100 I just had lunch with your assistant's friend blank who I met at your house Wednesday morning.

01:18:15.600 Very sweet girl.

01:18:16.300 Do you know anything about her?

01:18:17.340 Thanks Steve.

01:18:19.020 And then Epstein says no, but I will ask blank all confidential.

01:18:22.580 I will get all info.

01:18:24.140 Did you contact the great fake ass tit blank?

01:18:27.960 She's a character short-term has an older boyfriend going to acting school, a 10 ass.

01:18:33.020 I am happy to have you as a new, but obviously shared interest friend.

01:18:38.560 Thanks Jeffrey.

01:18:39.400 Curious to know about redacted.

01:18:41.580 I will contact redacted pro or civilian.

01:18:44.840 So that probably means sex worker or just a regular non-sex worker.

01:18:49.240 Right.

01:18:49.500 And then the next thing is send me a number to call.

01:18:52.680 I don't like records of these conversations.

01:18:55.100 Obviously.

01:18:55.500 Oh, three, one Oh seven, seven, nine, eight, nine, six, nine.

01:18:59.140 I wonder if I already have it in my phone, dude.

01:19:01.160 If I already have it in my phone, bro, somebody is going to win a winter coat.

01:19:06.040 That's what we're giving away this year, dude.

01:19:08.840 If they allow us to have it.

01:19:11.100 Is this stupid that I'm looking?

01:19:14.140 Seven, nine, eight, nine, six, nine.

01:19:16.260 If you call, tell them we're live to tape.

01:19:18.860 Okay.

01:19:20.220 Nope.

01:19:20.700 Nothing.

01:19:20.940 Okay.

01:19:23.160 Close call.

01:19:26.020 Okay.

01:19:26.560 Sorry.

01:19:27.120 So then Tish writes three, one Oh seven, seven, nine, eight, nine, six, nine.

01:19:30.980 I've reached out to blank.

01:19:32.400 She's not on this trip.

01:19:33.640 Okay.

01:19:34.420 Um, thanks.

01:19:35.620 Thanks.

01:19:35.800 Yeah.

01:19:36.580 And this is Epstein report just in.

01:19:38.300 You did very well.

01:19:39.220 She wants to go to the play.

01:19:40.500 She's a little freaked out by the age difference, but go slow and wait.

01:19:43.840 I will try to convince her not to return to Ukraine.

01:19:46.320 Having her crying worked.

01:19:49.020 Okay.

01:19:50.440 Nice report.

01:19:51.240 Funny comment on crying.

01:19:53.340 So trying to seem like he's not involved totally.

01:19:55.920 Well, I don't know.

01:19:56.400 It seems like, okay.

01:19:57.180 So, I mean, it's a little bit disturbing with the crying.

01:19:59.240 It's like, what, what, why are you having her cry?

01:20:01.140 Like, was it some pressure involved?

01:20:03.200 Right.

01:20:03.540 But it could have just been that she was upset about something as well.

01:20:06.080 Could have been.

01:20:06.620 Yes.

01:20:06.880 There are, I guess, innocent explanations for this, but at the very least, this looks like

01:20:10.460 he's trafficking somebody to somebody else.

01:20:12.760 It's just the subject line is Ukrainian girl.

01:20:15.000 Oh, that's a good point.

01:20:17.480 That's a good point.

01:20:18.240 So it doesn't say that she's an adult in this.

01:20:20.460 It says that she's younger.

01:20:22.040 It doesn't say the age.

01:20:23.300 Got it.

01:20:24.220 But it says she's young.

01:20:25.660 Got it.

01:20:26.140 But she says she has a boyfriend at some point too, but that could still be anything.

01:20:29.300 Yeah.

01:20:29.500 I'm not defending.

01:20:30.360 I'm just trying to look at things openly.

01:20:31.740 Um, okay.

01:20:33.860 So you're saying that this justifies some form of trafficking.

01:20:36.320 Well, I think it justifies some form of investigation at the very least.

01:20:40.800 Like you should look into what the hell this was.

01:20:42.480 Got it.

01:20:42.680 And is it being investigated?

01:20:44.060 I don't know for sure.

01:20:45.960 I think the NFL hasn't done anything yet.

01:20:48.640 There are people who are journalists writing articles who said this should be looked at.

01:20:52.760 Like I think Steve Tisch, you know, should be investigated.

01:20:55.660 Cause there's probably, cause you imagine this is just an email and then in that email,

01:20:59.560 it says, I don't like talking about this over email.

01:21:01.540 So there's probably more conversations that are not documented.

01:21:05.520 Yeah.

01:21:05.760 And also, I mean, watch them just end up making them kick off from the five yard line or something

01:21:09.820 like that.

01:21:10.240 Like, you know what I'm saying?

01:21:10.940 Like things are so merged and weird these days.

01:21:13.380 Who knows?

01:21:14.000 So I think there's some other, there's some other emails that I sent to Zach that was

01:21:17.140 like evidence of this kind of thing.

01:21:19.860 Um, there were, can we look at some of those?

01:21:21.480 Here we go.

01:21:21.940 Some other ones here.

01:21:23.000 Yeah.

01:21:23.440 Let's look at some other ones here.

01:21:25.980 Organize blank place for you.

01:21:27.520 Blank each girl.

01:21:30.140 Nice.

01:21:30.600 Will do.

01:21:30.980 So this seems like he's organizing some meetup with some women with this redacted person.

01:21:39.000 We don't know who that is.

01:21:39.900 Got it.

01:21:40.740 Right.

01:21:40.940 So this is, I feel like this isn't to me from the outside looking in, cause you're

01:21:44.560 obviously not going to write in there.

01:21:45.600 Yes.

01:21:45.780 I am trafficking young girls to you.

01:21:47.380 Ages five to, you know, you're not going to say that you're going to probably be a little

01:21:50.400 bit more for sure.

01:21:51.780 Subtle about it.

01:21:53.040 Do you know any girls that are into girls who might be into me?

01:21:56.900 And that's from someone Epstein going to dancing again, starting Tuesday.

01:22:00.940 Let me know if you're in town next week and I'll try to see if some of the girls are interested.

01:22:05.500 And what does dancing mean?

01:22:07.140 Any news?

01:22:08.080 Oh, I see what you're saying.

01:22:08.840 Going to be dancing again, starting Thursday.

01:22:12.840 Hmm.

01:22:13.200 So to me, these are just, you know, cursory searches from a nobody.

01:22:18.060 I'm just like, Hey, is there something here?

01:22:21.120 It seems like at the very least there should be some investigation happening.

01:22:24.580 I mean, you're seeing in other countries, people are getting arrested.

01:22:26.820 Like Prince Andrew's getting arrested.

01:22:28.300 Lord Mendelsohn just got arrested.

01:22:29.980 Lord Mendelsohn did.

01:22:31.120 Yeah.

01:22:31.480 Oh my God.

01:22:33.560 Who is it?

01:22:35.760 Who is Lord Mendelsohn?

01:22:36.720 Yeah.

01:22:37.280 He's like some British, you know.

01:22:39.200 Peter Mendelsohn.

01:22:40.120 Sorry.

01:22:40.640 Yeah.

01:22:41.160 Peter Lord Mendelsohn.

01:22:43.080 The British are popping off on him, huh?

01:22:45.760 Watch him get Paddington Bear for something, dude.

01:22:47.840 He always looked a little suspicious, you know?

01:22:52.700 What are some of the other most suspicious things that you've seen from Epstein Files?

01:22:56.020 Well, so the other thing that I wanted to look into too was the big conspiracy is like,

01:23:00.900 oh, Epstein was running a blackmail operation.

01:23:03.860 He's a spy running a blackmail operation on behalf of Israel, right?

01:23:07.440 You probably heard that.

01:23:08.380 Yes.

01:23:08.880 Do you think he was a spy or do you think he was just a guy that was like,

01:23:12.540 you know, obviously perverted, pedophile type of dude who was just like,

01:23:19.140 you know, just a bad dude into some dark shit and had a lot of money?

01:23:23.480 He was definitely a spy.

01:23:25.500 I mean, if you could pull up, he was issued in the 80s an Austrian passport.

01:23:30.060 So I don't know how you can get an Austrian passport.

01:23:32.920 Well, this is a, okay.

01:23:33.580 So fake Austrian passport, right?

01:23:34.840 So you have his name go up there to the top, right?

01:23:38.220 Morius Roberts.

01:23:38.780 He looks like a little bitch.

01:23:39.940 Look at him.

01:23:41.500 Right?

01:23:41.840 So then how do you get one of these things?

01:23:44.980 Morius Robert was his name.

01:23:46.700 First of all, that's cultural appropriation.

01:23:49.160 I'm going to go ahead and say that right now, bro.

01:23:52.000 Shout out all the real Mariuses out there.

01:23:56.580 And he said he was Saudi Arabian.

01:23:58.140 Yeah.

01:23:59.080 This is a real passport that was used.

01:24:00.400 So it's fake in the sense that Epstein obviously was not Austrian.

01:24:03.720 Right.

01:24:03.980 So he got a passport from somebody.

01:24:05.260 He got a passport from somebody in the 1980s.

01:24:07.620 And this is before he even met Les Wexner.

01:24:10.640 Okay.

01:24:11.080 And so to me, this is some indication that, okay, so he maybe was tied up with the State

01:24:16.160 Department or intelligence, right?

01:24:17.600 He was an asset of some sort that they wanted to issue this to so you could travel around

01:24:21.640 Europe using an alias.

01:24:23.480 Right.

01:24:23.620 There could have been a hundred different versions of him and he's one that over time

01:24:28.560 just worked well enough, you know, or that had enough success.

01:24:31.580 I think that, you know, because with anything you do like a seed kind of program, you would

01:24:34.800 do like, let's see, you know, let's see what's going on here.

01:24:37.800 Well, so based on my historical, cursory historical knowledge, this is done by the CIA.

01:24:43.420 So the 1970s, there's a thing called the Church Committee.

01:24:46.540 Have you looked into the Church Committee at all?

01:24:48.020 But that's when all the crazy shit came out with like Cointelpro and MKUltra where they

01:24:52.600 basically exposed the CIA for all these covert operation regime change in the Middle East

01:24:59.040 and in Iran.

01:24:59.520 All this stuff came out because prior to the 1970s, the CIA would be just doing this stuff.

01:25:03.820 They would just, on CIA records, they're doing this stuff.

01:25:06.260 And then after the Church Committee, they basically had to go through various channels

01:25:10.440 of like mobsters or like seedy characters in order to still continue to do what they

01:25:14.200 do.

01:25:14.620 I see.

01:25:15.100 But have it off the books.

01:25:15.980 Have it off the books.

01:25:16.560 So then they need guys like Epstein to carry out some of the stuff who's not officially

01:25:20.760 a CIA agent.

01:25:22.140 Before they just had agents going in.

01:25:24.100 Was it coming out of Vietnam that that energy just started to change things kind of?

01:25:27.480 I'm trying.

01:25:28.140 I don't exactly.

01:25:28.480 You know, people started to not just believe in what we were doing was good?

01:25:31.700 I think it was like the JFK assassination was a big thing, right?

01:25:34.460 And everybody was like, this is really bizarre.

01:25:36.220 Like, how did this happen?

01:25:37.360 There was the bullets that went in these three directions.

01:25:40.040 And then there was, you know, the RFK assassination was also very bizarre.

01:25:43.700 MLK, if you looked at every single one of those, they're all very weird.

01:25:45.940 I think people started losing trust in the American government.

01:25:48.340 And then on top of that, you had this massive war in Vietnam, like you were saying.

01:25:53.040 So then there was that political will to like, hey, we need to expose.

01:25:57.500 Similar right now, I think with Epstein, it's like, hey, we need to expose some of these

01:26:01.380 billionaires that are running the country, right?

01:26:03.540 It's gone too far, right?

01:26:04.500 It's not like, you know, we're supporting Israel, but like, we're still building nice

01:26:07.900 bridges and we're fixing the roads and the hospitals.

01:26:10.380 It's like, if they did some, I mean, this is a little bit cynical, but if they did some

01:26:13.400 of that stuff, I think people would probably pay less attention to Israel.

01:26:16.320 Like, they'd be like, okay, sure, whatever.

01:26:17.680 Do that over there.

01:26:19.040 Why don't they do that stuff in addition to it?

01:26:21.180 Then I wonder.

01:26:22.360 That's the big question.

01:26:23.180 It's like, why?

01:26:23.820 I think it's because everything is so, this is my take going to business school.

01:26:27.620 Well, just my background is everything is so like siloed in the sense that you're only

01:26:31.520 thinking about your own company.

01:26:32.760 So it's like, I just want to maximize everything for myself.

01:26:35.020 So they're not really thinking about the collective.

01:26:37.380 Like, hey, if we do this in conjunction with everybody else, like we could, you know, take

01:26:42.520 over the world.

01:26:43.040 They're just like, everybody's kind of getting their own piece of the pie.

01:26:45.520 They're trying to just get their cut.

01:26:46.900 And there's not, there's like, I think there's like less collaboration than people think in

01:26:51.520 terms of the conspiracy world, but there's a lot of various conspiracies out there that

01:26:56.540 are very real.

01:26:57.620 That's my take.

01:26:59.680 As a normie.

01:27:00.640 Yeah.

01:27:02.080 Do you, you mentioned Lex Wexner is the guy's name?

01:27:05.820 So Les Wexner.

01:27:06.560 So he was the-

01:27:07.320 Who is he?

01:27:08.040 He is the billionaire owner of L Brand.

01:27:12.060 So he owned a bunch of retail stores like Victoria's Secret, Abercrombie & Fitch, Bath & Body

01:27:20.440 Works.

01:27:21.700 And he signed over.

01:27:23.820 So this is his, because everybody, so that's when Epstein like went to another level, but

01:27:28.800 then he was actually just deposed because he didn't speak about Epstein for a very, very

01:27:31.900 long time.

01:27:32.660 He always said it was, I regret my association with Epstein.

01:27:36.580 And he didn't say nothing much.

01:27:37.680 Like he just recently got deposed by, um, by the U S Congress.

01:27:42.840 And he gave this long, I think it was like six hours, but there's some really interesting

01:27:46.880 clips that came out of it.

01:27:47.820 Cause people asked him like, why did you trust Jeffrey Epstein with all your money?

01:27:51.140 Cause he literally signed over power of attorney of his entire financial estate.

01:27:55.980 Is that true?

01:27:56.620 Over to him.

01:27:57.200 Yeah.

01:27:58.460 Hmm.

01:27:59.760 And people were asking why, you know, what gave you the confidence that you could trust

01:28:03.840 is like, did you, cause they're like, did you, how did you meet him?

01:28:05.840 He's like, oh, I was introduced by a friend of mine.

01:28:08.020 And then, so like, what, what did he tell you that he did to like, have you give over

01:28:11.940 basically control of all of your money?

01:28:13.660 And he, and he said that Epstein was working as the, for the Rothschilds as their money

01:28:20.020 manager.

01:28:20.900 So I'm like, this is even before Wexner, which is where we think he got all his money.

01:28:26.260 So even before that, somehow Jeffrey Epstein, like a high school math teacher was, was, uh,

01:28:32.180 working for the Rothschilds.

01:28:34.560 Like, how did that happen?

01:28:35.380 Yeah.

01:28:35.860 Which is then to me, it's like back to the spy thing.

01:28:37.840 It's like, was he some sort of intelligence asset that was positioned within these, you

01:28:43.200 know, people who are pulling the strings, like powerful families, institutions around

01:28:47.520 the world.

01:28:48.700 That's, that's my hypothesis around it.

01:28:50.900 Got it.

01:28:51.600 So that's who, so that's who he is.

01:28:53.960 And we don't know any crimes that he did.

01:28:55.400 He's just associated with them, right?

01:28:56.900 There's no accusations against this Mr. Wexner, is there?

01:29:00.440 I don't think there's any specific accusation.

01:29:02.280 I do know there's a famous documentary that came out where the CEO of Abercrombie was using

01:29:09.720 Abercrombie to recruit young men into prostitution.

01:29:14.280 Oh, really?

01:29:15.320 Yeah.

01:29:15.600 The CEO was of Abercrombie?

01:29:17.640 Pull that up.

01:29:18.300 Yeah.

01:29:18.540 Mike Jeffries.

01:29:19.700 Yeah.

01:29:20.020 Let's get a gator at him.

01:29:21.060 Um, Mike Jeffries, sex trafficking.

01:29:23.640 Yeah.

01:29:24.920 Yeah.

01:29:25.100 Right here.

01:29:25.560 Former Abercrombie and Fitch CEO charged with operating sex trafficking ring.

01:29:29.100 Mike Jeffries, former CEO of U.S. clothing company Abercrombie and Fitch has been arrested

01:29:33.380 for alleged sex trafficking and interstate prostitution following weeks of speculation or allegation

01:29:37.560 of professional misconduct.

01:29:39.560 Uh, Jeffries' romantic partner, Matthew Smith, who is also a man, and association James Jacobson

01:29:45.920 were arrested for alleged role in the Enterprise.

01:29:49.060 Huh.

01:29:50.220 Did they ever convict him or it was just alleged?

01:29:52.700 I think he's in jail.

01:29:53.740 I don't...

01:29:54.440 Let me see.

01:29:54.940 A U.S. attorney, Breon Pierce, said, powerful individuals for too long have trafficked and

01:30:00.120 abused for their own sexual pleasure young people with few resources.

01:30:04.120 Is he in jail?

01:30:04.880 I'm very curious if he's in jail.

01:30:07.560 Like, where is he right now?

01:30:09.800 This is a perplexity question.

01:30:11.700 It is, huh?

01:30:12.840 Leave this open and scroll down for a little bit and go look at perplexity separately so

01:30:15.720 I can keep reading.

01:30:16.740 Just want to see what they're...

01:30:17.700 It describes sexual botchanals spanning from New York to Morocco in which a recruited men

01:30:22.920 were given drugs, lubricants, condoms, costumes, and sometimes erection-inducing penile

01:30:29.760 injections that cause painful hours-long reactions.

01:30:33.960 It's boners, probably.

01:30:36.120 Oh.

01:30:37.320 I looked it up.

01:30:38.000 He's not in jail.

01:30:38.860 He's set to go on trial.

01:30:40.020 They just found that he's fit to stand trial.

01:30:41.780 This was in December.

01:30:42.920 Oh.

01:30:44.260 They're trying to go with the insanity plea.

01:30:46.160 Well, I mean, that's...

01:30:47.740 It's not ideal.

01:30:48.360 I mean, yeah.

01:30:48.660 Yeah, so he's set to go on trial.

01:30:50.000 So the thing about Wexner, Les Wexner, hard to say his name, Les Wexner, is that he's

01:30:55.320 also involved in that whole Israeli-Zionist money-moving operation from Israel to the United

01:31:02.140 States back and forth to support various Zionist causes.

01:31:04.920 Like, he's one of the big funders of the birthright trips to Israel, right?

01:31:08.780 I don't know how much you know about that, but I've talked to a few people.

01:31:11.920 The purpose of that, they're describing, like, that's another crazy sex party type of thing

01:31:17.100 where they get...

01:31:17.460 Really?

01:31:17.760 Yes.

01:31:18.620 I've never heard that.

01:31:19.620 I have heard that.

01:31:21.040 Yeah.

01:31:22.140 And there's this one as well.

01:31:23.520 Epstein, yeah, Israel and the CIA, how the Iran Contraplanes landed at Les Wexner's

01:31:28.860 base.

01:31:29.040 So they're running some kind of CIA operation using Wexner's airport in Ohio, and Jeffrey

01:31:37.260 Epstein was facilitating something within there.

01:31:39.800 Very complicated, but it's like, okay, so these guys are not just normal people.

01:31:44.600 Got it.

01:31:44.920 So we're just saying that that guy's an example of somebody that worked under Les Wexner

01:31:48.800 at one of his companies.

01:31:49.900 Well, Les Wexner hired him to run Abercrombie at Fish.

01:31:53.100 Got it.

01:31:54.280 Who's Howard Lutnick?

01:31:55.720 That's a name that you hear a lot.

01:31:57.940 Well, Howard Lutnick is the Commerce Secretary right now.

01:32:02.280 Okay, the Commerce Secretary, you're not U.S. Commerce?

01:32:04.520 Yes.

01:32:04.920 Okay.

01:32:05.480 And he was on record.

01:32:07.440 He gave this whole melodramatic interview where he said, he lived right next door to

01:32:12.620 Jeffrey Epstein, by the way, literally next door neighbors, 9 and 11.

01:32:16.420 That'll come back later.

01:32:18.780 East 72nd Street.

01:32:20.880 9-11.

01:32:21.420 Yeah, so he was right next door to Jeffrey Epstein, and he was asked, you know, what

01:32:27.320 was your relationship with Jeffrey Epstein?

01:32:28.600 He said, well, I went over to his house once with my wife.

01:32:31.180 I saw a massage table on the counter.

01:32:33.140 I turned.

01:32:33.800 I was like, oh, what is this disgusting man?

01:32:35.420 And we left immediately.

01:32:36.880 We never spoke to him.

01:32:38.540 I was never in another room with him ever again because this is a disgusting human being.

01:32:42.520 And then the emails come out, and there's like all kinds of correspondences with Jeffrey Epstein

01:32:49.180 about like visiting the island.

01:32:52.140 There's emails about them investing in a company together.

01:32:55.480 So they were very much closer than he let on.

01:32:59.600 Than Lutnick let on.

01:33:00.120 Yeah, so he just basically straight up bold-faced lie to the American people.

01:33:03.900 So is he being held on charges or anything?

01:33:06.520 No, but he should be held on charges for another thing, which he just did the other

01:33:09.920 day, which is, you know, the Trump tariffs.

01:33:13.500 Right, they just voted against him.

01:33:14.980 SCOTUS just voted against him, right?

01:33:16.280 So then he was out there publicly telling the American people prior to the SCOTUS voting

01:33:20.700 saying, oh yeah, I think SCOTUS will side with President Trump on this one.

01:33:24.600 But his firm that's run by his sons now was like shorting these tariffs.

01:33:29.920 Basically, they're buying insurance against the tariffs.

01:33:33.120 Where were they doing that?

01:33:34.080 Like on some of these like polymarket sites and stuff like that?

01:33:36.440 No, it's through some kind of financial instrument that's way more complex than I can probably

01:33:40.120 explain.

01:33:40.680 Wow.

01:33:41.820 So Howard Lutnick's family firm bought up the rights to tariff refunds for 20 to 30

01:33:46.440 cents on the dollar after Liberation Day last year.

01:33:49.180 Today, the Supreme Court struck the tariffs down for every $100 invested.

01:33:52.360 Lutnick's sons just made three to five X.

01:33:55.080 Welcome to crony corruption, America.

01:33:56.940 So that's like, that's just classic insider trading.

01:33:59.080 He's basically, he probably knew that they weren't gonna.

01:34:01.880 Right, but he says that.

01:34:04.100 But he says that on TV saying, oh no, I think they're gonna side with the American people.

01:34:07.040 Allegedly.

01:34:07.680 Allegedly, yes.

01:34:08.420 Well, yes.

01:34:09.080 I don't feel like I used that word enough today.

01:34:11.100 So if, you know.

01:34:12.260 But there's another connection with him and 9-11.

01:34:15.240 So he was profiting off of Trump's tariffs.

01:34:17.260 Yes.

01:34:17.640 Right.

01:34:17.960 So then allegedly he would have known then that the Supreme Court was gonna do that.

01:34:21.420 And then so he's trading.

01:34:22.240 So he basically is creating buzz in one direction, but then he's trading in the opposite direction.

01:34:28.960 Right.

01:34:29.140 Because if he felt that they were going to vote in favor of President Trump, why would

01:34:34.840 he be executing the trades on the opposite side?

01:34:36.980 Right.

01:34:37.360 Doesn't make sense.

01:34:38.600 Unless it doesn't make sense.

01:34:39.760 Right.

01:34:39.960 So that's classic insider trading.

01:34:41.680 Yeah.

01:34:41.840 But that's the thing about, like, so many people, like, look at the leaky faucet and

01:34:45.900 they're like, who's causing this leaky faucet?

01:34:47.740 But what they don't realize is the true player is the, or the people that bought the stream

01:34:53.900 up.

01:34:54.520 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:34:55.420 Up from the city, up from the water department.

01:34:57.880 And they're doing things there that eventually, years later, will cause the leaky faucet.

01:35:01.540 And they've set up all these businesses and things along the way.

01:35:04.380 Like, some people don't realize the strategy sometimes that goes into things, right?

01:35:08.840 Absolutely.

01:35:09.100 Well, he is the, so there's some crazy, we gotta get into it.

01:35:11.460 Cause he is the CEO of Cantor Fitzgerald, which is, they were the tenant of a, you know,

01:35:17.760 I think the floor 105 to 107, the World Trade Center building.

01:35:20.620 Okay.

01:35:21.000 And he did not go to work that day.

01:35:23.340 Cause his wife, this is, Trump said this last week, there's a clip of him saying like,

01:35:26.800 Hey, your wife begged you not to go to work that day.

01:35:29.700 You never missed a day of work in 20 years.

01:35:31.940 Aren't you glad that you didn't go to work that?

01:35:33.520 So he, like most of his employees died.

01:35:36.140 And then he did this whole thing where, I don't know if you want to play this clip or I

01:35:39.220 could just talk through some of the stuff where he basically took all the insurance.

01:35:42.660 So they, the company was paid insurance money from the airlines and then he pocketed most

01:35:47.760 of that money instead of giving it to the employees.

01:35:49.640 Yes.

01:35:50.440 Really?

01:35:50.820 Then you get past, okay.

01:35:51.760 So it's like, did he know something like what was going on?

01:35:54.200 So play, play this clip though.

01:35:55.360 The clip that I sent, um, Zach, there's a lady like how he got his home right next to

01:36:01.780 Epstein.

01:36:02.000 It's, it's insane.

01:36:04.100 Tell me what are the odds that the notary to the deed of what was both Epstein and Howard

01:36:10.160 Letnick's property at 11 East 71st street, because yes, Epstein owned that property before Letnick

01:36:18.200 owned that property.

01:36:19.320 It was transferred to Epstein for just $10 in 1992.

01:36:23.500 Epstein passed the deed to a Comet trust in 1996, again, for just $10 of which a Guido

01:36:31.280 Goldman was a trustee, the son of one of the founders of the world Jewish Congress.

01:36:38.080 And then it was passed to Letnick in 1996 for again, just $10 who notarized the deed transferring

01:36:49.140 this property from Jeffrey Epstein to the Comet trust in 1996, a Gary Pollard, a Gary Pollard

01:36:57.940 just so happened to be in the perfect spot at the perfect time to record the perfect shot

01:37:06.800 of the South Tower collapsing on September 11th, 2001.

01:37:15.500 Is it just a weird coincidence that Jeffrey Epstein and Howard Letnick owned 911 East 71st

01:37:26.100 street?

01:37:26.640 Oh, wow.

01:37:28.940 I mean, kudos to her.

01:37:30.480 She's like digging up like fucking documents.

01:37:32.720 Yeah.

01:37:32.880 She's petting a cat too at the same time, which heavily reminds you of the person from Inspector

01:37:37.760 Gadget.

01:37:38.180 Remember that guy?

01:37:39.240 I've never seen Inspector Gadget.

01:37:40.420 Was it Inspector Gadget, the bad guy or the person who was like the dark guy who'd always

01:37:43.740 be petting the cat?

01:37:45.000 Dr.

01:37:45.360 Claw.

01:37:45.800 Yeah.

01:37:46.000 So what was she saying there exactly?

01:37:47.220 Let's just sum it up.

01:37:48.260 I think what she's insinuating there is that there's some kind of foreknowledge of 9-11,

01:37:51.840 that these things that, how did Letnick even get this property in the first place right

01:37:57.360 next to Jeffrey Epstein?

01:37:58.180 There's some kind of collusive action taking place here.

01:38:00.420 There's something shady happening behind the scenes.

01:38:02.860 Obviously, all coincidences, as she's saying.

01:38:04.840 Yeah.

01:38:05.120 But it should be examined a little bit further, especially with the context that if you look,

01:38:10.280 somebody like did timestamps and all the emails that were in the Epstein files, and there's

01:38:14.480 like a huge chunk that's like missing between 1999 and 2001.

01:38:18.200 That's like all not there.

01:38:19.920 So it's like, was something, and Ghislaine Maxwell's also asked to be on the 9-11 shadow

01:38:24.240 commission.

01:38:24.840 Like, why was she asked to be on the 9-11 shadow commission?

01:38:27.000 Like, did she know some stuff?

01:38:28.040 Like, she was reached out to.

01:38:29.080 She said no.

01:38:30.380 So like, it seemed like they knew.

01:38:31.840 It's like, yeah, here it is.

01:38:33.940 This is from at Chris Martinson.

01:38:36.420 It's just a complete coincidence that the DOJ has completely withheld all the Epstein documents

01:38:39.980 immediately before, during, and after 9-11.

01:38:42.420 Is that right?

01:38:43.660 Wow.

01:38:44.100 The gap.

01:38:44.540 25,000 missing serial numbers.

01:38:47.300 I mean, how much do you believe, we talked about this a little bit earlier, like that

01:38:51.800 some things feel like theater, right?

01:38:53.480 It almost feels like, like you hear all these things that like, the Simpsons, and they predicted

01:38:58.680 this, and every week now, it's like, it was written here, and look at this.

01:39:02.100 Do you believe, and then it starts to, like, what do you believe about that?

01:39:07.120 Like, how much of the, like, stuff like this, like they lived at 9-11, and this was next door.

01:39:11.180 Do you think any of that's real, or we're all just reading into this stuff?

01:39:14.340 Have you seen enough things where you're like, there could be something here?

01:39:17.520 I think so.

01:39:18.000 Okay, so I think some of it is coincidence, but some of it is, like, predictive programming,

01:39:22.400 and that they want, so for example, the Top Gun example, I would say, is they want the

01:39:26.500 American public comfortable with this kind of attack, this style of attack.

01:39:29.880 It's going to be awesome.

01:39:30.580 Look how great the firefighters, or not, the fighter jet pilots are going in, bombing the

01:39:36.060 uranium site, pulling out, great stunt.

01:39:38.060 So that Top Gun was in Iran, that's where that happened, it was a uranium site in Iran.

01:39:42.220 That was, yeah.

01:39:42.820 So you're saying, let's put it in a movie before we do it, so that it'll feel more comfortable

01:39:46.020 to people.

01:39:46.580 Exactly.

01:39:47.060 So some of that stuff, I think, is predictive programming, where they do that.

01:39:50.120 Some of the stuff is coincidence, and then some of the stuff, I think, is, like, full

01:39:53.800 psyop stuff, where they try to get you distracted with another issue, so they can maybe brush

01:39:59.580 this real stuff, because I do believe the Epstein stuff is real stuff.

01:40:02.260 Like, this is, like, there's real crimes taking place behind the scenes, like, people should

01:40:05.180 be investigated, all that stuff.

01:40:06.500 So I'll give you an example, which may be controversial, maybe not, but, like, for example, I think

01:40:11.560 the ICE riots are a little bit of a psyop.

01:40:14.140 Yeah.

01:40:14.280 Like, that stuff is, I don't know how many, you know, how much you've talked about that,

01:40:17.360 but, like, I think it's purposely created to be a divisive issue.

01:40:22.060 It reminds me of the stuff of the Portland, like, in the park, those Antifa in the park

01:40:25.980 riots and stuff, and you had Renaissance Fair people battling Bernie Sanders activists

01:40:30.500 and some of that shit.

01:40:31.860 And it was like, what the hell is even, you know, a Star Wars versus Game of Thrones character

01:40:36.540 or something?

01:40:37.000 We're like, what is even happening here?

01:40:39.440 I could see some of that because there's videos of them, like, finding a guy who, like, started

01:40:43.360 a, like, put, like, a Molotov cocktail on the street or something.

01:40:46.460 Yeah.

01:40:46.640 And they follow him, and, like, who are, you know, interviewing, and the guy's, like,

01:40:49.700 obviously was just stopping by to do this, not really involved.

01:40:52.740 I could, I think there's more of that that happens than we even know, right?

01:40:57.000 Absolutely.

01:40:57.280 I think a lot of the videos you see, like, oh, look at this.

01:40:59.380 This seems real.

01:40:59.860 So, but you don't realize somebody could stage that, put the video out, or it could

01:41:03.200 be AI, and you don't even know.

01:41:05.300 Right.

01:41:05.680 And they particularly picked this issue where there's, like, no, it's not going to be any

01:41:09.160 agreement because immigration is one of those issues, like abortion, there's really not

01:41:12.520 a right answer.

01:41:13.140 It's, like, based on your morality.

01:41:14.460 Like, some, you know, like, some countries are great.

01:41:16.100 Like, Japan's great because they're all Japanese.

01:41:17.720 They have their own customs and cultures.

01:41:19.040 It's really cool.

01:41:19.600 Or Scotland or whatever.

01:41:21.020 America just happens to be, like, kind of a melting pot.

01:41:22.800 That's kind of what we're known for.

01:41:24.080 But there's no, like, right answer to the amount of immigration you should have.

01:41:27.620 So, they pick this issue that nobody can really come together on.

01:41:31.100 And then they send people on the streets.

01:41:32.360 Because I'm, like, thinking, why aren't you sending people on the streets for, like,

01:41:34.780 Epstein?

01:41:35.160 Why aren't you sending people on the streets for, like, spraying pesticides in all our

01:41:37.980 food?

01:41:38.660 Why is that?

01:41:39.140 Because that's a unifying issue.

01:41:40.200 People will actually demand something out of it.

01:41:42.420 This is, like, there's no answer.

01:41:43.860 Because you could look at the same video.

01:41:45.000 This happened with the Renee Good and the other guy, Alex Preddy, right?

01:41:48.240 People look in the same video, and they're seeing different things.

01:41:51.520 And they're, like, oh, perfect.

01:41:53.300 Let's amplify this more.

01:41:54.580 Let's send more people out there.

01:41:55.760 And now, also, they create—because I think there's something weird happening here where

01:42:00.340 I don't think Trump is that serious about deporting people.

01:42:02.800 Because there's, like, a business interest in, like, keeping them here.

01:42:06.400 Because you have, like, depressed wages.

01:42:08.300 A lot of them work in hospitality.

01:42:09.680 A lot of them work in farm.

01:42:11.280 And Trump said, oh, those are exempt.

01:42:12.800 Like, well, those are where all their—those are where a lot of illegal immigrants are at.

01:42:16.740 So, why aren't you doing that?

01:42:17.540 Well, because your donors don't want you to do that.

01:42:19.300 So, then you create this nice show for people, a show of force on the streets.

01:42:23.120 I think the MAGA people really love the ICE agents going out there and having that presence.

01:42:28.700 It gets them fired up.

01:42:30.580 And then, on the other side, then the Democrats are sending their people on the streets.

01:42:35.020 And all of a sudden, both sides have created sort of a pretense to, like, now we've got to surveil people.

01:42:40.780 We've got to do a police state.

01:42:42.220 And so, you get the best of everything.

01:42:43.640 You still get the indentured slavery for the corporations.

01:42:47.440 Now, you have chaos in the streets.

01:42:49.780 So, then you can bring about, like, the Palantir mass surveillance stuff.

01:42:52.340 That's what's heading.

01:42:53.140 Yeah.

01:42:53.540 That's the big thing I see.

01:42:54.780 Yeah.

01:42:55.300 For me, I believe that even, like—well, it's also funny that one political party lets a ton of people in.

01:43:00.360 The next—

01:43:00.820 Yeah, yeah.

01:43:01.120 And they're the bad guys.

01:43:02.180 And then the next political party is—they're the ones who are trying to get everybody out.

01:43:06.320 And they're the bad guys, right?

01:43:07.880 It's like, don't you see that we're just watching the show?

01:43:11.280 Like, don't you realize that at a certain point, you're just watching—

01:43:13.240 That's what I've been trying to get people to wake up.

01:43:14.620 I've been shit on for the ICE thing because I have—because my audience is, like, pretty split.

01:43:18.520 Because I—a lot of times, I focus just on corruption and just, you know, this guy is doing something bad.

01:43:24.080 I don't really do, like, party politics and stuff like that.

01:43:26.780 So, I have people on both sides, depending on the issue.

01:43:28.240 Because I went hard at the COVID issue, which is, like, a right-leaning issue, right, against the vaccines.

01:43:33.480 I'm like, these pharmaceutical companies are very corrupt.

01:43:35.300 And that's a right-leaning issue.

01:43:36.760 But then there's other issues that, like, people side with more on the left, which is, like, the pro-Palestine stuff, anti-Israel.

01:43:42.100 That's, like, more of a left issue.

01:43:44.040 So, then in the—and so then whenever I comment on something that's, like, really, I think, divisive, like, I get hate on both sides.

01:43:51.560 I've been called, like, a communist and, you know, also, like, a libtard to, like, right-wing Nazi.

01:43:59.340 Like, every—

01:43:59.900 But if you're getting called both things, then you're probably doing a good job, I think.

01:44:02.540 So, I've been called everything.

01:44:03.960 Like, a CCP spy, which obviously, you know—

01:44:06.480 I've been called f***ing a couple times and wigger.

01:44:09.700 Well—

01:44:09.980 So, you know.

01:44:11.600 Well, I think once you're in the game long enough, you—it's not—it's not possible to not be hated by somebody.

01:44:17.620 Yeah.

01:44:18.100 I think it's, like, yeah, then you're probably doing something right, I feel like, you know?

01:44:21.360 And you just have to do your best.

01:44:22.440 It's, like, you don't know what the f*** you're doing.

01:44:23.760 But neither do those guys that are wearing the suits and everything.

01:44:25.920 That's my thing.

01:44:26.540 It's, like, those guys don't know what the f*** they're doing either.

01:44:28.780 They just look like they know what they're doing.

01:44:30.720 And I'm very open.

01:44:32.080 It's, like, hey, I'm just giving you as I see.

01:44:34.240 Like, I'm reading one chapter ahead.

01:44:36.100 My job is to, like, inform you of what I've found.

01:44:38.640 And then you can take that for what it's—

01:44:40.020 Well, I mean, that's, like—I think that's the—tied back to what we talked about in the beginning.

01:44:42.880 It's, like, that's the role of a teacher.

01:44:44.200 It's, like, I'm trying to just give you information.

01:44:46.800 And then hopefully that inspires you to do something that you want to do, right?

01:44:50.580 A teacher's not supposed to say, hey, you need to become X, Y, and Z in your life.

01:44:53.800 It's to give you information to then sort of let you then go out there and explore the world.

01:44:59.100 Like, inspire you to do something else.

01:45:00.260 That's what I get from your content.

01:45:01.440 It's just, like, you know, when I see stuff, it's, like, that's interesting, you know?

01:45:05.380 Or that, hmm, that's curious, you know?

01:45:07.740 I think I just get a curiosity about it.

01:45:10.700 And this is kind of one of the first times where media has been open and be able to kind of say what they want.

01:45:15.720 Like, media has been vastly kind of controlled by a couple of corporations over the past, what, 50 years, 100 years, maybe?

01:45:23.300 Yeah.

01:45:23.760 And you're going to see a co-op—they're going to try to co-op people like myself.

01:45:26.640 I'm already seeing it happen, right?

01:45:27.820 Because now they can get people to say exactly what they've said in mainstream media, but then through the lens of, like, a TikToker who's just wearing regular clothes.

01:45:35.800 So you're going to see that battle.

01:45:37.840 Like, information warfare will continue.

01:45:39.700 And that's why, for me, I've always stayed very, very, you know, diligent about making sure that I'm not taking money for anybody that I don't want to—you know, like, I'm basically fully independent.

01:45:48.960 I want to say that's why I got in the game.

01:45:50.160 Like, I could have made a lot more money doing consulting work.

01:45:52.920 That was easy, you know, straightforward.

01:45:55.360 But here, you know, I'm just hopefully here on, like, more of, like, a spiritual mission, you know?

01:45:59.600 Yeah, well, I think, I mean, you want to live—like, if Earth exists and we're all going to live here, and America was this thing that you believe in or that you knew your grandparents believed in, a lot of people are like, you know, I'm trying to believe in what America stands for, the best parts of it, the most moral parts of it.

01:46:17.540 Or that being a human stands for because, like, you know, I had a family member that died for these goals, right?

01:46:23.540 I had a family member that, you know, who sacrificed their life to work here in this country under these rules so that I could go to school in a place that was, you know, free, Democrat.

01:46:33.260 You know, it's like, I think people just want to have a life.

01:46:36.160 They want to have a chance to live and their children to do so.

01:46:39.500 And if you start to think that there's all these dark, controlling forces out there, which mostly are probably elites and people that are, like, extreme capitalists or power-hungry, that's very scary.

01:46:52.260 And you start to realize, oh, there is a battle of good and evil at a certain point, you know?

01:46:57.760 Absolutely, yeah.

01:46:58.160 And that we're in that, maybe.

01:47:00.300 You know, sometimes you don't want to think, like, hey, maybe I'm a character in something, you know?

01:47:04.160 But maybe you are, you know?

01:47:06.180 Maybe this is a battle of good and evil and you are, you are supposed to have a role in it.

01:47:12.820 Not, you know, you and everybody.

01:47:14.940 You know, it's like, sometimes we sit at home, we're like, man, I wish I'd have been picked to be, like, a hero or something.

01:47:20.500 And it's like, maybe you got to fucking tap yourself on the shoulder, you know what I'm saying?

01:47:23.580 Because I do feel like life is a bad, I do feel like there's good and evil in the world right now.

01:47:28.440 And I don't know how it plays out, but it feels scary and it feels alarming.

01:47:33.480 And I just feel like a lot of people feel that.

01:47:36.180 Yeah, I mean, I completely agree with you.

01:47:38.680 And I would just, you know, to kind of spin it on a positive note, there's a lot of times through history.

01:47:43.420 I don't think we're living through, like, the worst of times by any stretch of the imagination.

01:47:47.000 I think it could feel that way sometimes with maybe social media and things like that.

01:47:50.180 No, not at all.

01:47:50.820 Right, but I think there, even in dark times, like, people really struggling out there, I think there definitely can be happiness found in dark times.

01:47:57.420 Oh, yeah, dark chocolate.

01:47:59.320 Look at that, you know what I'm saying?

01:48:00.360 Yeah.

01:48:00.680 There you go.

01:48:02.640 Well, I noticed for sure, it's like, if I need to, like, if I want to get my head out of, like, some of the rabbit holes, because your algorithm will take you down some crazy, it'll take you down some spots where it just repeats information.

01:48:13.820 And you can feel little bits of indoctrination coming in.

01:48:17.680 You know, you feel the fucking, you smell a little indoctrination smoke sometimes.

01:48:21.040 You're like, I got to quit doing this.

01:48:23.320 But if you separate yourself from your phone sometimes, and any of the things that are kind of edgier in the world or darker in the world, then things get light again pretty quick, I feel like.

01:48:33.940 I think so.

01:48:34.440 I mean, yeah, you have to, like, step away from this kind of stuff from time to time.

01:48:37.700 It's like, you know your own body better than anybody else.

01:48:39.720 If you think you need to turn it off, you got to turn it off.

01:48:41.640 And that's why I try to do that with some of my content is, like, the natural path, if you start looking down these, like, conspiracies, it gets darker and darker and darker.

01:48:49.980 And some people are okay with that.

01:48:51.820 For me, it's like, I still want to provide videos for people where they can still take action.

01:48:57.360 Right?

01:48:57.460 Because some of those things, like, okay, there's some, like, dark lizard family that's running, you know, running the world.

01:49:03.060 Like, there's nothing you can really do about that.

01:49:04.680 But if I give you information on, like, hey, Amazon ring cameras are, like, spying on your family through this whole dog thing at the Super Bowl, like, you should probably get rid of your ring camera.

01:49:13.160 That's something that you can actually do.

01:49:14.200 It's like, I don't want to be a part of that ring camera thing.

01:49:15.820 Do you feel like they're doing that?

01:49:17.080 Yeah.

01:49:18.080 They are.

01:49:18.540 Well, they were connected to that company Flock, which is giving the footage.

01:49:24.020 Police information?

01:49:24.940 Exactly.

01:49:25.380 To the police.

01:49:26.140 And they thought the dog video would work.

01:49:27.520 They honestly did, because I looked into it, and they thought the dog video was a good video.

01:49:30.940 There was this whole PR campaign pre-Super Bowl, but then people saw that weird thing in the Super Bowl with all the lights going out.

01:49:36.340 And it's like, whoa, hold on a second.

01:49:38.120 And they said 10 million dogs are lost a year.

01:49:39.920 This is going to find 300 dogs a year of, like, 300 out of 10 million dogs?

01:49:44.820 I don't think that's a worthy tradeoff.

01:49:46.480 Right.

01:49:46.860 It seems like a scam.

01:49:47.880 It seems like a scam.

01:49:48.800 So then that is a video.

01:49:50.320 It's like, that video went decently viral.

01:49:52.260 And I think that's something that people can gravitate to, because they can actually do something about that.

01:49:57.880 And that's why I'm trying to play sort of a line with my editorialization, which, yeah, some videos are going to be about more of the conspiracy digs.

01:50:05.020 But some of it's going to be things that you can do something about.

01:50:07.920 Right.

01:50:08.200 It's like, what banks are good?

01:50:09.940 What banks are bad?

01:50:10.480 You can choose your bank.

01:50:11.740 Right.

01:50:12.000 You can't choose, like, you know, whether we're going to bomb Iran tomorrow or not.

01:50:15.880 Right.

01:50:16.020 That's something that's totally out of your control.

01:50:17.300 Right.

01:50:17.860 Yeah, I agree.

01:50:18.520 And it's like keeping stuff that's in your control.

01:50:20.480 What is a good bank, man?

01:50:22.260 What is a good bank?

01:50:23.060 I mean, I'm not, I mean, I don't, I mean, local banks.

01:50:25.860 Honestly, like credit unions that are in your local community, like small regional banks are probably the best banks because they still, they're tied to the community.

01:50:33.600 They're not some kind of giant conglomerate like JPMorgan Chase, Bank of America, that kind of thing.

01:50:37.880 So that's what I would look for in terms of, like, who you should go with.

01:50:40.820 There's some, like, new fintech stuff.

01:50:42.140 I'm making a video about this company named Chime, which has been sponsoring a lot of content creators that are, like, you know, the ones that are all about, like, giving money, that they find some homeless person.

01:50:52.540 They're like, oh, let me, you know, help you out for the day, that kind of thing.

01:50:55.320 Like, really, like, heartwarming content, but it's, like, sponsored by Chime, which is, like, pretty nefarious.

01:51:00.320 I don't have all the information quite yet because I'm still starting to dig, but it's like, oh, this seems like kind of a semi-scam that you're running here.

01:51:06.680 But then you're advertising through all these good content creators that are making heartwarming content.

01:51:12.120 So it seems like that's kind of, you know, there's a little bit of susness to that.

01:51:17.260 Well, maybe they're trying to rebrand themselves, too, you know?

01:51:19.680 Well, it's new.

01:51:20.120 It's a fintech.

01:51:20.660 It's a new company.

01:51:21.800 Interesting.

01:51:22.320 So that's something I'm still digging into, allegedly.

01:51:24.940 You know, I'm not insinuating that they've committed crimes or anything like that, but I just think that people, those are things that people should know.

01:51:30.220 It's like, oh, because they could see that video and, like, oh, I should sign up for Chime to do my banking.

01:51:34.840 Right.

01:51:35.060 But then they could be taken advantage of because they're not under the regular, you know, FDIC protection, all the regular banking authorities,

01:51:41.700 because they're outside of that.

01:51:42.840 Got it.

01:51:43.440 So that's the kind of stuff that, it's like a bit of a balance for me of digging into conspiracies.

01:51:49.380 So I'm, like, a very much, like, a generalist in that sense of, like, maybe it's just, like, my brain, like, ADD, ADHD kind of thing.

01:51:55.680 I'm not diagnosed or anything like that, but I see something.

01:51:58.500 I was like, oh, yeah, I'm going to do that for a little bit.

01:51:59.960 And then I'm like, oh, I got to stay on this.

01:52:01.600 But then something else has caught my eye.

01:52:03.060 So that's a little bit of a weakness of mine, but also could be a strength in that I do videos about a lot of different things.

01:52:07.720 Yeah.

01:52:08.440 Well, I think we got to have a gopher.

01:52:09.760 You got to have something that goes in there and digs over here and, like, you know, he chews on this vegetable and then goes over there for a radish and then goes underground and looks at the roots, you know?

01:52:17.740 I think that that's something we need more than ever.

01:52:20.320 And it's interesting.

01:52:22.340 And it's just freelance.

01:52:24.580 It's like, you know, you're trying your best to work in freelance.

01:52:27.500 5149, that's your podcast.

01:52:29.480 How often is it out?

01:52:30.320 And do you still have a co-host on it?

01:52:32.220 So, yeah.

01:52:32.520 So I do a show called 5149.

01:52:34.320 That's when I do more of, like, the investigative digs on my YouTube channel.

01:52:37.900 Okay.

01:52:38.100 And I also host a show called The Today-ish Podcast with my co-host, Danny Love.

01:52:42.860 And we – that's sort of, like, more of, like, a fun podcast where we're just having conversations about, like, what went on during the week.

01:52:48.660 She's, like, much more of, like, a tinhead than I am.

01:52:50.800 So she's – you know, I'm having a conversation.

01:52:52.260 I'm, like, talking about Peter Thiel, Palantir.

01:52:54.260 Yeah.

01:52:54.360 You know, they're taking over, you know, surveillance.

01:52:57.380 And then she'd be, like, I think Peter Thiel's a lizard.

01:52:59.560 Right.

01:52:59.920 And I'm, like, okay, all right, cool.

01:53:01.280 So then – so she gets a little bit more weird than I do.

01:53:03.980 But it's, like, a fun dynamic of, like – we're trying to give you, like, important stuff but, like, packaged in more of, like, a fun and lighthearted way.

01:53:11.160 So I also do that show called The Today-ish.

01:53:12.660 That's more of, like, a two-hour live podcast that we do every single week.

01:53:15.580 And then if you want the digs, that's on my channel, 5149 James Lee.

01:53:19.500 You can also find me on Instagram still as well as Facebook, RIP to the TikTok.

01:53:24.900 They won't get you back on there, huh?

01:53:26.640 No, not as of right now.

01:53:28.620 I think they're fully under the Israeli regime at the moment.

01:53:33.380 You think so, huh?

01:53:34.120 Yeah.

01:53:34.740 I know, yeah, a lot of our stuff got shadow banned on there.

01:53:36.700 It seems like we've had stuff go down.

01:53:37.900 But you can't – they can't ban you because you're so big, right?

01:53:40.460 Because me, I was – you know, I think I was around 300,000 followers.

01:53:44.180 So I was, like, some of my videos would be popping off into the millions.

01:53:47.300 But I'm not so big.

01:53:48.600 It's, like, oh, James Lee is deleted.

01:53:51.440 Like, there's going to be a huge outroar.

01:53:52.960 Like, if you got deleted off of TikTok, there would probably be a huge, huge backlash.

01:53:56.940 So I'm in that, like, perfect place.

01:53:58.540 Like, let's get rid of this guy because he has enough influence that's pissing us off.

01:54:01.260 But he's not so big that we have – they find other ways to deal with, I think, bigger people.

01:54:05.120 Like, from what I heard, this guy, Guy Christensen, he goes by your favorite guy on TikTok.

01:54:09.300 So they basically said they just demonetize him or they'll do, like, weird shadow banning stuff where he still has his account, but they limit the reach in other ways.

01:54:16.440 Yeah.

01:54:17.300 Yeah, I think that that happens, man.

01:54:18.680 I think it happens a lot.

01:54:21.200 James Lee, thanks for coming in, man.

01:54:22.620 I'm sorry we got caught up on time.

01:54:24.020 You know, I got to get to the airport.

01:54:26.100 So that's the reason why we're kind of caught up on time.

01:54:28.100 Thank you for, you know, giving me a chance to, like, speak.

01:54:31.460 Yeah, dude.

01:54:32.200 Speak the truth, things like that.

01:54:33.660 Or my truth, at the very least.

01:54:35.080 I'm just trying to – ultimately, I'm just trying to hopefully provide, like, a voice out there that people, you know, can maybe turn to.

01:54:41.960 Maybe they don't like me, then you can go watch something else.

01:54:44.280 But, like, at least provide that media alternative to what's going on with the world, you know?

01:54:49.800 Yeah, well, we've always been able to be curious.

01:54:51.480 I mean, it would be wild if we couldn't be.

01:54:54.840 And I think more than ever, it's like, yeah, there's – yeah, people are trying to figure things out and just want to feel okay, you know?

01:55:02.760 James Lee, thank you so much, man.

01:55:04.100 Have a good one, brother.

01:55:04.620 Now I'm just floating on the breeze, and I feel I'm falling like these leaves.

01:55:10.700 I must be cornerstone.

01:55:15.820 Oh, but when I reach that ground, I'll share this peace of mind I found.

01:55:21.300 I can feel it in my bones, but it's gonna tell you.

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#642 - James Li

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