This Past Weekend with Theo Von - #647 - Dr. Peter McCullough

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00:01:07.420 Today's guest is a physician.

00:01:09.240 He's a cardiologist.

00:01:10.560 He's an author.

00:01:11.640 He's a professor.

00:01:13.120 He was the vice chief of internal medicine at Baylor University Medical Center.

00:01:18.600 He later became known for his investigations into the COVID-19 response here in America.

00:01:25.460 We're looking forward to spending time with today's guest, Dr. Peter McCullough.

00:01:43.000 And you can move this any way you want.

00:01:48.600 If you decide you're in a moving over here, you can just move the mic over there.

00:01:51.120 I have the type of voice you have.

00:01:53.480 Get that D voice. 0.77

00:01:55.000 We'll make sure.

00:01:55.460 We'll let you know if it's all.

00:01:56.680 Okay.

00:01:57.580 Yeah, you're kind of that whisperer, huh?

00:01:59.600 Man, well.

00:02:00.380 You like to whisper?

00:02:01.280 I was recently in the UK, and this woman who's an actress got up,

00:02:05.820 and everyone was shouting at the microphone, making their things, myself included.

00:02:10.280 She got up, and she started whispering, and everyone paid attention.

00:02:15.780 Yeah, that's a whisper, and it's a lost art.

00:02:18.960 Yeah.

00:02:19.200 but really the value when everything is so high you have to think that if you come in at another

00:02:23.560 intonation if you come in at another level you have to find an alternate route into people's

00:02:28.420 brains and hearts and stuff and yeah whispering gosh if we had just like whisper tuesdays where

00:02:34.720 everybody just whispered there was a doctor at stanford back when i was you know accepted in

00:02:41.100 academia his name is glenn shirtout and uh when he spoke it was so careful and he talked like this

00:02:49.180 and I remember the sponsors of a big meeting.

00:02:51.900 I was at the National Institutes of Health.

00:02:54.300 I said, what is it about Glenn Chertow?

00:02:57.400 He seems to be getting all the attention.

00:02:59.780 They said, he appears wise.

00:03:03.860 He has the appearance of wisdom, the way he speaks.

00:03:07.860 He may not be wise, but he appears wise.

00:03:11.740 The other thing that helps you that you and I don't have,

00:03:14.820 oh, he brought him up.

00:03:15.540 There's Glenn right there.

00:03:16.500 There he is, beautiful guy.

00:03:17.480 Good, good, good.

00:03:18.260 And are we going to bring people thinking up on the screen?

00:03:20.100 We can.

00:03:20.640 Oh, it's going to be so much fun.

00:03:22.020 Oh, yeah.

00:03:22.380 But anyhow, the one thing that my Uncle Ivan taught me is that you can double your perceived intelligence with a British accent.

00:03:34.880 Really?

00:03:35.500 Oh, yeah.

00:03:36.120 You get a British accent, they think you're twice as smart as you used to be.

00:03:40.080 Oh, that's so true.

00:03:40.560 Twice as smart.

00:03:41.340 I feel like, oh, if I meet a British girl, I'm like, oh, tell me everything.

00:03:44.380 I feel like they just know everything.

00:03:45.560 Yes.

00:03:46.660 Read me a book, mom.

00:03:48.260 Have you ever read that book, Culture Code?

00:03:51.320 Oh, Culture Code, no.

00:03:52.520 It's about what's your first impression?

00:03:55.260 And he did focus groups.

00:03:56.380 It's very scientifically, very solid.

00:03:58.060 He said, when you meet a British person,

00:04:00.600 what's the first word that comes into your mind?

00:04:03.700 G'day. 0.97

00:04:04.940 Oh, wait, that's Australian. 0.98

00:04:06.420 You almost got it with that girl. 0.99

00:04:09.280 Classy.

00:04:10.280 Classy.

00:04:10.760 So if you're going to advertise something to the British,

00:04:13.520 if you're going to advertise it with British,

00:04:15.240 You have to show somebody playing polo, and it has to be classic.

00:04:19.500 Yes.

00:04:19.840 Just finishing a biscuit, you know.

00:04:21.680 So how about Italian?

00:04:23.480 What's the first thing you think about when you say this?

00:04:25.120 Hey! 0.99

00:04:26.120 You know.

00:04:26.560 The Italian first thing?

00:04:27.940 The culture code says artiste.

00:04:31.200 So you have to, Michelangelo, you have to portray things, artistic, what have you.

00:04:36.200 How about American?

00:04:37.740 Now, if you just do this globally, when you—

00:04:40.900 Like a belch, kind of? 0.99

00:04:42.440 Oh, close.

00:04:42.960 uh america they uh the conclusion is out of this world so you want to advertise an american like

00:04:51.880 you know landing on the moon or just doing something completely you know elon musk you

00:04:56.680 know just jetting somewhere yeah just knocking up people and just blasting rockets into people

00:05:01.920 and into space so culture code is a code of advertising and what he said is if you break

00:05:09.020 the code if you try to advertise something that goes against what people are thinking your product

00:05:14.240 is going to bomb out so uh what's the uh what's the culture code word for nurse 0.94

00:05:22.040 nurse what's the first thing comes to your mind helpful close mother so you always want to show

00:05:29.700 a nurse holding a baby yeah what what's the culture code for doctor information hero

00:05:39.240 Hero.

00:05:40.200 Hero.

00:05:41.180 You know, hero, going to save your life.

00:05:44.440 Culture Co. was written, I think, in the 80s or 90s.

00:05:46.760 It's probably changed.

00:05:47.860 Well, here's another one.

00:05:48.580 It fits for COVID.

00:05:50.100 What's the first thing that comes to your mind when you think of hospital?

00:05:55.720 Safety.

00:05:56.940 Death trap. 0.51

00:05:59.000 Death trap.

00:06:00.200 And he interviewed hundreds and hundreds of people, did these focus groups.

00:06:03.980 Culture Code.

00:06:04.760 Culture Code.

00:06:05.400 It's a great book.

00:06:06.720 It's a quick read, and in your business, you'd want to, I guess, kind of be in tune with the code.

00:06:18.640 Yeah, I think there's some codes that you pick up on people they don't realize, you know?

00:06:22.940 But, yeah, no, I think that's interesting.

00:06:25.320 Just people that are able to examine that, like how people operate and how we perceive certain things.

00:06:30.340 um and you're a guy that's kind of like uh i guess you the way you've operated has kind of

00:06:36.040 changed over the past few years maybe i know it's certainly like grown in perception like your

00:06:40.920 ability to reach people has grown yes um you are a physician scientist is that correct yes okay and

00:06:47.600 what exactly does that term mean that means i practice medicine um and you know i see and

00:06:54.100 examine patients every day board certified in internal medicine and cardiology by the national

00:06:59.420 Board of Physicians and Surgeons.

00:07:01.500 So also a cardiologist.

00:07:02.680 And a cardiologist.

00:07:03.480 But I'm also a scientist, meaning I evaluate new concepts, I develop hypotheses, I use

00:07:17.000 the scientific method, and I conduct studies, case reviews, literature reviews, analyze

00:07:27.500 data, formulate an analysis, and then come up with opinions.

00:07:35.380 And through that method, I'm one of the most published doctors in the world, and certainly

00:07:42.500 the most published in my field previously, which was heart and kidney disease.

00:07:46.840 So I came into the pandemic locked and loaded.

00:07:51.820 In 2007, I had testified before the Congressional Oversight Panel for the FDA.

00:07:59.920 I had lectured at the European Medicine Association, New York Academy of Sciences, lectured widely at virtually every major medical school in the United States, published seminal papers.

00:08:11.760 But when the pandemic hit, what I saw within the first few months is no one was going to the problem.

00:08:21.760 No one was—you know when there's a fire or a catastrophe, and let's say 9-11 and the building is burning, most people ran this way.

00:08:34.140 But some of these first responders, they ran right into it.

00:08:37.780 I found myself in the same mode.

00:08:41.560 The first few weeks I said, well, surely Harvard will tell us what to do

00:08:45.060 or the Mayo Clinic or maybe the U.S. government.

00:08:50.760 Usually the government on medical things is a laggard.

00:08:55.620 They're not a leader.

00:08:57.720 So if we had a new cancer problem, we wouldn't say,

00:09:01.840 well, what does the government say?

00:09:03.320 you know the government is is behind academia got it within a few months of being into the

00:09:12.260 pandemic i i said listen uh you know i need to do my part i know other doctors in the hospital doing

00:09:19.180 their part and i devised the first treatment protocol of how to treat high-risk patients

00:09:25.340 we're talking elderly patients patients with a heart disease lung disease kidney disease uh at

00:09:31.380 home with very intensive therapies and oxygen at home to avoid two bad outcomes, hospitalization

00:09:39.400 and death.

00:09:40.160 And that became copyrighted as the McCullough Protocols, published in the American Journal

00:09:43.920 of Medicine in 2020.

00:09:46.220 Immediately, I was called before the U.S. Senate.

00:09:49.060 I appeared November 19th, 2020.

00:09:51.700 And so the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons, a leading doctors group, did

00:09:58.400 pick up the McCullough Protocol.

00:09:59.520 It became standard of care, and the principles were used.

00:10:05.620 It became standard of care when?

00:10:06.900 No, it became early standard of care in 2020 for high-risk patients.

00:10:11.200 We immediately organized telemedicine units,

00:10:13.500 and it was the McCullough Protocol that kept the hospitalizations down.

00:10:18.520 Remember, there were projections that we were going to overrun our hospitals.

00:10:21.500 Oh, yeah, there were like emailing people, like,

00:10:22.960 do you have a place we can put bodies at your house or whatever? 0.95

00:10:25.100 I had patients in their 90s with pacemakers and heart failure,

00:10:29.520 and we got going early with the McCullough Protocol.

00:10:31.820 We start with getting fresh air, nasal sprays and gargoyles, nutraceuticals.

00:10:37.080 They all played small roles.

00:10:39.660 Initially, the first year, we used hydroxychloroquine as our antiviral

00:10:43.100 and antibiotics and other drugs.

00:10:44.580 Second year, ivermectin.

00:10:46.040 And then third year, we actually used Paxlovid came in the third year,

00:10:49.440 Molnupiravir.

00:10:50.120 We used those drugs.

00:10:51.360 But I have to tell you, the winner was ivermectin, for sure, for sure.

00:10:54.480 But I think corticosteroids, prednisone played a huge role, anti-inflammatory drug called colchicine we use widely today, and then antithrombotics.

00:11:07.760 What was the McCullough Protocol?

00:11:09.540 Like what went into it?

00:11:10.920 Like what were you basically advocating for people?

00:11:12.860 I was saying that if we got behind on this illness, it was becoming clear we can't start treating when people are sick enough to go in the hospital.

00:11:25.560 Virtually every death occurred in the hospital.

00:11:28.100 So McCullough Protocol said there's two bad outcomes, hospitalization and death.

00:11:32.300 And if we can treat up front and never go in the hospital, we'll get through the illness.

00:11:37.980 Now, I did an artificial intelligence search recently, which is a great use of AI.

00:11:41.920 And I asked AI, tell me what percent of the world's population contracted COVID?

00:11:49.580 And it searched every single database and what have you.

00:11:52.460 And the number it came up with was 90%.

00:11:56.740 Wow.

00:11:57.400 Now, the pre-programmed bias that's still left in AI is promotional of pandemic fear, which you're still at risk, promoting vaccines, and doing everything it can to tell people they have no other options.

00:12:17.660 It's pre-programmed.

00:12:18.560 So if you go to Grok.

00:12:19.700 Is that true?

00:12:20.560 It's true.

00:12:21.180 Let me give you an example.

00:12:22.220 Okay.

00:12:22.360 If you go to Grok and you say, who's Dr. Peter McCullough?

00:12:25.900 It'll say, well, Dr. McCullough is a cardiologist and it'll go on and on.

00:12:30.440 It'll say, but he's a conspiracy theorist and he lost his board certifications.

00:12:36.680 It'll start saying all these things.

00:12:37.700 I said, listen, just say who it is.

00:12:40.380 Don't put in any defamatory comments.

00:12:43.380 Just give the straight facts.

00:12:44.840 Then it'll actually give a straight answer.

00:12:47.100 So Grok will tell you, I'm the most published person on the pandemic, period, in the world.

00:12:51.800 Okay.

00:12:52.360 And, you know, and so if you actually tell Grok, stop all the BS, it'll do it.

00:12:57.600 With Alter AI, you don't have to do that.

00:13:00.020 So at McCullough Foundation, I started a foundation.

00:13:02.960 We formed a relationship with Alter AI, and we pay for it, and we get a clean feed.

00:13:10.200 But I think even CoPilot will come up with, yeah, formerly practicing.

00:13:14.940 No, I'm in practice.

00:13:15.840 I just saw patients yesterday.

00:13:17.460 I mean, look, it just goes on and on.

00:13:19.700 Dr. Peter McCullough, yeah, formerly practicing as a cardiologist and internist.

00:13:25.580 Wrong, because I'm practicing today.

00:13:27.760 He is highly published in medical literature, over a thousand publications,

00:13:30.540 cited tens of thousands of times, became widely known during the COVID-19 pandemic

00:13:33.820 for his early advocacy of outpatient treatment protocols,

00:13:37.560 including controversial early use approaches,

00:13:41.180 and for his strong public criticisms of COVID-19 vaccines.

00:13:46.020 Yeah.

00:13:46.980 Okay, well, it's getting there.

00:13:49.540 But, you know, the thing about artificial intelligence, which I think is a huge advance.

00:13:53.500 By the way, I'm using it in my practice every day now.

00:13:56.320 Huge advance.

00:13:57.160 One more thing here.

00:13:57.800 His views on COVID-19 vaccines and related topics have been heavily criticized by mainstream medical organizations,

00:14:03.380 fact checkers, and sources like factcheck.org, which describe many of his claims as misinformation or unsupported.

00:14:10.260 Do you know not a single medical organization has reached out to me even for a discussion?

00:14:15.240 and you know

00:14:17.960 factcheck.org

00:14:19.400 that's not a medical organization

00:14:20.700 no idea what that is

00:14:21.920 so the idea is

00:14:23.000 let's say a medical organization

00:14:25.820 said let's have a discussion about

00:14:28.440 COVID vaccine complications

00:14:30.940 not a single one

00:14:32.320 there hasn't been a single medical school

00:14:34.880 in the United States

00:14:35.660 that's even had a grand rounds on this

00:14:37.820 let alone invite me to present grand rounds

00:14:40.240 why do you think that is

00:14:41.160 that they haven't reached out to you

00:14:43.920 to have a conversation

00:14:44.980 They haven't reached out to anybody.

00:14:47.040 Okay.

00:14:47.620 There is a tremendous willful blindness to what's gone on through the pandemic.

00:14:56.480 There has been no review of lessons learned.

00:15:01.120 What did we learn from the pandemic?

00:15:02.960 I agree.

00:15:03.500 It's so wild.

00:15:04.320 So much information was every day.

00:15:06.420 It was this, this, go here, get a booster.

00:15:08.680 If you can't like get a vaccine, like hang your family member out of a window,

00:15:12.660 we'll have an archer come by with a vaccine, like from Pfizer. Yeah. It was like, we can,

00:15:16.480 you know, we'll vaccine them from the road or whatever. It's like, it was getting crazy,

00:15:19.640 but yeah, it's kind of wild how afterwards there hasn't been as much like, Hey, these are the

00:15:24.620 things we learned. This is like what we've learned as a society. Well, we're told over and over again,

00:15:30.180 there's going to be another one. It's called disease X. It's going to come out of another

00:15:35.560 biolab. Shit. It's going to come out of Miami. I'll tell you that. Or Galveston, Texas. They 1.00

00:15:41.780 got a BSL-4 lab there. Do they? I don't know. They got some BBLs over Miami. Is it really?

00:15:48.480 They're dealing with some bad stuff down there. Okay. Mark that. I want to go back and talk about

00:15:52.120 that in a second. Wait. So this is it right here. Defining disease X. Well, look at Bloomberg

00:15:56.060 School of Public Health. Who's the major funder of Bloomberg School of Public Health? Bill Gates.

00:16:01.480 Wow. This is a dream. This is a dream of those who want to vaccinate the world

00:16:06.960 is they want another disease X.

00:16:10.160 Of course, it's another industrial war complex.

00:16:12.180 That's what this is.

00:16:12.860 Well, you got it.

00:16:13.480 But it's on your bodies.

00:16:14.260 I do want to say this.

00:16:15.360 And Bill might just be trying to solve

00:16:16.960 whatever he was potentially giving his wife.

00:16:18.660 I don't know.

00:16:19.280 That's allegedly.

00:16:20.260 But I will say this.

00:16:22.060 I want to read this right here

00:16:23.160 because you mentioned disease X.

00:16:24.440 I haven't heard about it.

00:16:25.500 Since 2018, the mysterious

00:16:26.780 and often misrepresented hypothetical pathogen

00:16:29.340 has been at the heart

00:16:30.560 of international pandemic preparedness efforts.

00:16:33.220 Just that sentence alone,

00:16:34.400 when you look at that sentence,

00:16:36.100 Look how front-loaded and vague it is.

00:16:41.020 Since 2018, this mysterious, often misrepresented hypothetical pathogen

00:16:46.500 has been at the heart of international pandemic preparedness efforts.

00:16:50.240 Like we're so prepared for something that's super vague.

00:16:54.800 It's just like you can feel it setting you up for something.

00:16:57.780 Well, let's go to CEPI,

00:16:59.960 the Coalition for Epidemic Preparedness and Innovation.

00:17:02.740 It's founded in 2017 by the World Economic Forum and Bill Gates.

00:17:09.360 And CEPI, in its business plan in 2017, says there's going to be a series of these pandemics, one after another, coming in like hurricanes.

00:17:20.320 And for each one, there'll be only one solution, mass vaccination.

00:17:25.400 And CEPI is a vaccine incubator.

00:17:28.320 They're going to be ready.

00:17:29.320 Let me tell you, vaccines and pandemics is big business, way more than pro sports, way more than anything else you can think of.

00:17:39.060 It's huge business.

00:17:41.160 And in this world of, we don't hear about other forms in this industrial complex now, other things now, outside of biological threats and then countermeasures, which is a military term, which are vaccines, therapeutics, and protective equipment.

00:17:58.240 But the idea is these are so richly funded, they're so richly funded that the entity that

00:18:05.040 holds the threat and holds the antidote, they hold power.

00:18:08.860 Can you imagine the negotiating power you would have if you said, hey, listen, I got

00:18:14.240 COVID-20 locked and loaded right now in an undisclosed location can get the whole country

00:18:21.280 sick.

00:18:21.940 We want a little better tariff situation.

00:18:25.060 Can you imagine the negotiating power?

00:18:28.760 And Peter Daszak, who's part of this whole conspiracy to create SARS-CoV-2,

00:18:34.580 when he testified in the House of Representatives, he said,

00:18:38.200 I left a whole bunch of samples back in Wuhan.

00:18:41.220 That's why I'm confused.

00:18:41.980 What was he doing there?

00:18:43.580 Peter Daszak was the go-between between Dr. Ralph Barrick

00:18:47.900 at University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill,

00:18:49.860 who devised the virus and was publishing on it,

00:18:52.660 and the federal government.

00:18:55.320 Daszak was at the EcoHealth Alliance.

00:18:56.980 It's a go-between organization

00:18:58.240 that was shuttling money for barracks projects

00:19:01.200 over to Wuhan.

00:19:02.780 Daszak had been to Wuhan many, many times.

00:19:05.720 He knew that lab well.

00:19:06.940 To create the virus, you mean?

00:19:08.480 Correct.

00:19:08.960 Understood.

00:19:09.700 Okay, let's back up one second.

00:19:10.880 I just want to look at CEPI.

00:19:11.800 Who created CEPI?

00:19:12.760 Bring that back up.

00:19:14.280 CEPI was a World Economic Forum

00:19:16.100 and the Gates Foundation.

00:19:17.800 You'll find, I think,

00:19:19.060 the government of Germany and India,

00:19:21.000 I believe, was involved as well.

00:19:22.660 But this is a richly funded, multi-billion dollar organization.

00:19:27.000 You just can't imagine how big these units are.

00:19:29.200 Oh, I can totally.

00:19:30.160 You know, you look at the industrial war complex.

00:19:31.980 There we go.

00:19:32.380 And now you start to see it's the industrial medical complex, right?

00:19:36.200 There you go.

00:19:36.420 That's the new one that really seems like it's sprouted over the past 20 years.

00:19:39.200 Correct.

00:19:39.800 Right here.

00:19:40.340 CEPI is the Coalition for Epidemic Preparedness Innovations,

00:19:42.760 a global organization focused on accelerating vaccine.

00:19:46.420 Vaccine development.

00:19:47.380 Okay, sorry.

00:19:48.220 It was created in 2017 through a partnership between the governments of Norway and India.

00:19:52.660 the Wellcome Trust

00:19:54.480 and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.

00:19:56.800 Yep.

00:19:59.160 And go back to Disease X.

00:20:00.920 I want to just read what it was really quick.

00:20:05.040 By the way, CEPI's got a big Disease X section.

00:20:07.940 They have a whole white paper on it.

00:20:09.440 Wow.

00:20:10.760 Disease X is a placeholder concept

00:20:12.380 that refers to a pandemic pathogen

00:20:14.200 that has not yet been characterized.

00:20:16.840 How vague is that?

00:20:18.560 Like, hey, it exists,

00:20:20.180 but we don't know what it is exactly yet.

00:20:21.840 but we have a vaccine for it.

00:20:24.360 Its purpose is to encourage proactive thinking

00:20:26.680 about pathogens that could cause a pandemic.

00:20:29.940 Oh, so disease X isn't an actual disease.

00:20:32.240 It's a plan.

00:20:33.420 It's a plan for a disease.

00:20:36.540 So disease X was SARS-CoV-2.

00:20:41.080 It was a planned disease.

00:20:43.680 Got it.

00:20:44.380 And here we are.

00:20:45.880 It was a plan.

00:20:47.700 And, you know, in my first book,

00:20:49.700 Courage to Face COVID-19,

00:20:51.540 we expose CEPI and what we call a biopharmaceutical complex.

00:20:56.140 You called it a bioindustrial complex, same thing.

00:20:58.860 But there has been a cartel that's formed.

00:21:05.580 It's very powerful.

00:21:07.080 Probably back in 2004 is probably when it started with the BioShield Act.

00:21:11.700 But it includes the World Health Organization, the World Economic Forum,

00:21:15.280 Gates Foundation, Wellcome Trust, the Rockefeller Foundation, CEPI,

00:21:21.540 Gavi, Unitate, all these organizations, all organized, to essentially plan for, create pandemics, and then respond to them.

00:21:36.180 And that's how COVID-19 ultimately, it's essentially known now.

00:21:42.000 This was not a spontaneous thing from nature.

00:21:44.320 This was planned.

00:21:46.160 What's the number one piece of evidence that makes you feel like it's known, that it was planned?

00:21:49.660 Well, I think the best source of all of the evidence is Peter Braggen's book, COVID-19 and the Global Predators, We Are the Prey.

00:21:57.880 I wrote the introduction for it.

00:21:59.620 But he goes back again to about 2004, the BioShield Act, where he outlines 36 pandemic preparedness planning events.

00:22:10.920 36, historically.

00:22:12.920 He's got a wonderful timeline.

00:22:15.580 And of those, two dozen provide written documents.

00:22:19.400 You can just read them, including one of them is the PREP Act in 2005, which says there will be a pandemic, and we will have one.

00:22:27.900 2005, that was a Bush administration, HHS, said, listen, we're going to have one, and when we do, we're going to have countermeasures.

00:22:36.640 And when we roll out these countermeasures, you better take one, and there is a complete freedom of liability.

00:22:43.480 But 24 of them provide written evidence, and then six of them are filmed.

00:22:48.560 You could just go watch him.

00:22:50.160 So was he kind of a whistleblower, do you feel like?

00:22:51.860 He was a whistleblower back in the days where essentially Prozac wiped out consultative counseling psychiatry.

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00:25:37.320 But COVID-19 and the global predators,

00:25:39.320 it has the best timeline.

00:25:41.120 Now, Robert F. Kennedy wrote a book

00:25:42.520 about the real Anthony Fauci.

00:25:43.760 He's got a timeline in it too.

00:25:45.560 Our book, Courage to Face COVID-19,

00:25:48.000 I think outlines who this complex is

00:25:52.340 and what they're doing.

00:25:54.480 This medical industrial complex.

00:25:55.820 Yeah, who is it exactly?

00:25:57.780 Hang on, people have said,

00:25:59.560 well, wait a minute, it's big pharma.

00:26:01.600 I disagree.

00:26:02.160 I think the pharmaceutical companies and the in vitro diagnostic companies and the gown and mask companies, they're suppliers to the complex.

00:26:12.180 The complex is this organized group that in many ways, they have bad intentions.

00:26:23.980 And look at the last World Economic Forum meeting.

00:26:27.880 They play a big role in this.

00:26:29.680 And it was one of the speeches where they said, you know,

00:26:32.040 COVID-19 pandemic was a test of human compliance.

00:26:36.480 They just come out and say that.

00:26:39.000 Was it just written or did someone speak that?

00:26:41.140 Someone say it. 0.91

00:26:41.960 Yeah, let's pull it up.

00:26:43.260 World Economic Forum, the pandemic was a test of human compliance.

00:26:48.180 But the point I'm making is that there's a lot of interest in this whole field.

00:26:59.060 we have divisions.

00:27:02.520 Here we go.

00:27:03.300 Who said that?

00:27:04.540 No, the World Economic Forum

00:27:05.660 did not describe the pandemic

00:27:06.680 as a test of human compliance.

00:27:09.280 Test of social responsibility.

00:27:10.900 Key details from that

00:27:11.920 and related WF publications include

00:27:13.580 test of social responsibility.

00:27:15.140 The article explicitly stated

00:27:16.080 that COVID-19 was the test

00:27:17.280 of social responsibility.

00:27:19.280 Citing the fact that people worldwide

00:27:20.840 complied with the unimaginable restrictions.

00:27:23.980 Well, pretty close.

00:27:26.520 Oh, I don't doubt that it felt

00:27:28.480 certainly like a psychological experiment.

00:27:30.420 I mean, one of the things I was going to ask you

00:27:31.860 is what do you feel like they learned from this?

00:27:34.080 Like what valuable information was taken away,

00:27:37.060 like whoever these powers are that be, you know?

00:27:39.020 Well, I hope that they learned

00:27:41.720 that when they have a vaccine that's an epic failure,

00:27:47.760 that that's permanently going to set back aspirations

00:27:51.680 for future worldwide vaccination.

00:27:55.220 Now, if this vaccine would have worked

00:27:56.740 and everyone took it and COVID magically went away

00:28:00.560 and just everything cleared up in a month or two

00:28:02.780 and there was nobody was sick anymore

00:28:04.920 and there was no side effects.

00:28:07.040 These guys would have been heroes, right?

00:28:10.280 Remember Bill Gates comes out in April of 2020

00:28:13.540 and says, this pandemic doesn't end

00:28:17.760 until virtually every person in the world takes a vaccine.

00:28:23.660 How does he know it's April of 2020?

00:28:26.740 vaccines. Right. Who knows what's going to happen? Right. Yeah. If you have a strategy,

00:28:31.920 then of course that's what you're going to say. Well, Gates Foundation and the Bloomberg School

00:28:36.300 of Public Health in 2017 hold a planning seminar. It's called the SPARS pandemic, S-P-A-R-S

00:28:44.800 pandemic. It's at Johns Hopkins. And it says there's going to be a coronavirus pandemic in

00:28:52.200 2017. Now, they held it in 2017. They thought it was going to hit in 2025. Okay, it hits in late

00:28:59.860 2019. Then, and this is one of the ones that is well-documented as a planning event, and then

00:29:06.820 Event 201. Come on. That's November of 2019. What is Event 201? Event 201 was, again, Johns Hopkins

00:29:14.800 Bloomberg School Public Health, Gates Foundation. They have a meeting. They said, we are really

00:29:20.340 going to have a coronavirus pandemic. They bring over George Gao, who's the Chinese CDC director,

00:29:27.120 and he's paired up with others there. Averill Haynes is there. Who's Averill Haynes? She's a

00:29:32.780 former World Economic Forum associate, becomes our director of national intelligence under Biden.

00:29:39.380 Really? And she's with George Gao, and they're saying, oh, we're going to have a COVID pandemic,

00:29:44.780 And this is how it's essentially is going to be used to railroad mass vaccination on the world. 0.74

00:29:50.600 But do you believe that everybody knew that?

00:29:52.300 Or do you believe that a select group knew it?

00:29:54.320 And then they just because say if I say if I have a devious plan, right, I could still go to someone and say, hey, this is what's happening.

00:30:01.440 I don't have to say I'm the one who's causing what's happening.

00:30:03.700 Right. So were there because the tough part is when you start to think of like that everybody was complicit, like, you know, I'm saying that's the part that starts to feel very impossible.

00:30:14.780 possible to a lot of people. I don't think that's the case. I got to tell you, I was in practice

00:30:18.180 then. I had no idea this was going on. Everybody I talked to in my institutions all over the whole

00:30:23.620 country, all over Europe, no one knew this was happening. The point is this was going on.

00:30:29.180 This was in the open. Got it. No one was paying attention. I bet no one briefed Trump that

00:30:37.920 in 2017 that they're gonna you know they were planning for a coronavirus pandemic i bet there

00:30:45.600 wasn't a briefing but does it also make sense that as our world evolves and as like biohacking and

00:30:50.780 like research and everything becomes so much more intense and like medicine is evolving all the time

00:30:56.000 and science is evolving constantly that's just what it does um that there would be it would make

00:31:02.660 some sense to strategize that something like this could happen like that maybe we've moved on from

00:31:07.860 like actual, like, like huge wars on land. And then it's going to become more like, yeah, I

00:31:14.020 remember years ago you would hear like, oh, the next war is going to be in the water or it's going

00:31:17.520 to be in the air, right? It's going to be a virus. You would hear stuff like that a lot, like just

00:31:21.660 kind of randomly. Oh, there's movies, right? There's movie Contagion and all these other

00:31:25.620 movies. What, what experts will say in infectious disease, in vaccinology, is that the reason why

00:31:33.200 we have to have biolabs is we have to get ahead of nature. So, nature sooner or later is going to

00:31:40.220 throw us a really bad bug, and we're susceptible to these. And the case example they use is Spanish 1.00

00:31:47.360 flu. In my book on vaccines, we spend a lot of time on the Spanish flu, which was very unique.

00:31:54.480 Post-World War I, we have young men in army barracks. And remember, influenza doesn't

00:32:02.960 directly kill people. What kills them is a secondary staphylococcal pneumonia, and that's

00:32:07.600 what they die of. The point that was made, though, is that, listen, we could have another Spanish flu. 0.95

00:32:14.480 And when COVID-19 pandemic broke, don't forget, the storyline we were told is, oh, here we go

00:32:22.120 again. It's another Spanish flu. Now, remember, Anthony Fauci knows it came out of the lab, 1.00

00:32:28.640 but they collaborate together to say, you know what?

00:32:32.660 It came out of a fish market.

00:32:35.160 In fact, the WHO, when it was asked to investigate early in 2020,

00:32:41.580 where did this virus come from?

00:32:45.060 Rear Admiral Brett Gerrard,

00:32:46.640 someone who went to my medical school in Dallas at Southwestern,

00:32:49.780 he was on President Trump's first task force.

00:32:53.340 Brett Gerrard nominates three U.S. scientists to go to Wuhan.

00:32:58.640 The WHO says, no, no, we don't want them.

00:33:01.840 We want Peter Daszak.

00:33:04.100 Isn't that interesting?

00:33:05.560 Daszak, who knew, in fact, he was shuttling the plans over there.

00:33:09.840 So Daszak goes over to Wuhan and he looks around.

00:33:13.780 He goes, I don't know where this virus came from,

00:33:17.100 but it definitely didn't come out of the lab.

00:33:20.460 He had been to the lab dozens of times.

00:33:23.000 He shuttled the plans over.

00:33:24.420 Anthony Fauci was well aware of this.

00:33:26.720 They started covering up their emails.

00:33:28.640 Rand Paul's got a great book called Deception.

00:33:31.660 He has every single one of these events in it.

00:33:34.780 But the point I'm making is those in this field keep saying,

00:33:40.500 listen, there could be another Spanish flu.

00:33:42.340 We must get ahead of this.

00:33:44.460 However, with the 2004 BioShield Act and the 2005 PrEP Act,

00:33:51.020 the governments got in the game of bioterrorism.

00:33:55.720 How did those acts allow them to do that?

00:33:57.800 Well, what happened was we had the anthrax scare, which largely looks like it was a deranged government worker at Fort Detrick who was working on the anthrax vaccine for the military.

00:34:15.780 And there has been lost enthusiasm for this vaccine based on safety.

00:34:21.240 And so he actually sent some letters to Leahy and other people in Congress.

00:34:26.080 Some people got sick.

00:34:27.500 To this day, not a single soldier has died of anthrax

00:34:31.140 because an enemy shot an anthrax capsule the other way.

00:34:34.480 It's all been, you know, this event.

00:34:38.940 Like these social events.

00:34:40.020 Yeah, social events.

00:34:40.820 Yeah.

00:34:41.260 So-

00:34:42.220 Yeah, what happened with anthrax?

00:34:43.980 Well, there's another great book with, there you go.

00:34:49.940 Letters containing anthrax reports were mailed

00:34:51.460 to several news media offices and the senators, Tom Daschle.

00:34:54.340 Daschle, Patrick Leahy.

00:34:55.520 Patrick Lay killing five people and infecting others.

00:34:58.340 But what I'm saying is the anthrax scare and SARS-1,

00:35:02.380 the SARS-1 outbreak led to this idea that, wait a minute.

00:35:07.760 There's money here.

00:35:08.640 Oh, first off, this could really happen.

00:35:12.040 So we should be prepared.

00:35:14.680 That's the reason why it's called the PREP Act.

00:35:16.500 We should be prepared and our governments should get in this game.

00:35:20.500 So the military got in the game with a unit called DARPA, D-A-R-P-A, and the National Institutes of Health got in this game with a unit called BARDA, B-A-R-D-A, and these are pandemic preparedness units.

00:35:35.720 Well, as they churned over time, there's funding of biolabs, and let's see how we can make this organism more contagious, and would this work, and let's test it here.

00:35:45.440 And they got to Barrick.

00:35:47.000 Barrick got to the point of, well, let's take a human coronavirus,

00:35:50.920 of which there's four that we can get as a common cold,

00:35:53.300 and let's take the spike protein, the surface of it, from a bat

00:35:58.700 and then start to play with this until it can lock in with a human receptor

00:36:04.360 called the ACE2 receptor and invade humanized epithelial cells in animals.

00:36:12.260 And when they did that in Wuhan, it basically killed the animals.

00:36:16.120 They said, ooh, now we've got a real, we've got, we took something benign, which is a

00:36:21.840 coronavirus, and we've made it potentially lethal.

00:36:25.040 Now, in those papers, 2015.

00:36:27.620 In what papers?

00:36:28.120 In pre-reviewed papers, 2015, Nature Communications in 2016, in the Proceedings of the National

00:36:36.580 Academy of Science. The first author is Menachery, M-E-N-A-C-H-E-R-Y. Those two papers describe

00:36:45.380 primordial SARS-CoV-2. In 2015 and 2016, this is published, these are high-level peer-reviewed

00:36:51.380 journals, and the title of the paper is a SARS-like COVID coronavirus, W-I-V-1,

00:37:00.900 Wuhan Institute of Virology One virus poised for human emergence. So here they are in these papers

00:37:08.380 and you can pull them up, poised for human emergence. So they were announcing to the world,

00:37:14.140 this isn't my field. I wasn't reading this. But was this a good guy saying this or was this a

00:37:18.140 bad guy saying this? These are the guys who were working. This paper was done. The work was done

00:37:23.900 in the Wuhan Institute of Virology. Okay. They say it's gain of function research, but it was

00:37:29.860 grandfathered in because it was started before the obama ban on this and we took it over to wuhan

00:37:36.620 they thanked the chinese for their collaboration now the second paper that came out a month later

00:37:42.280 in the presidencies national community of sciences they actually put the chinese authors on

00:37:46.240 so this was in many ways in the infectious disease community in the open now this by the way when

00:37:55.020 the U.S. government funds work like this, they must put the genetic code of the new virus they

00:38:01.500 created in a central data bank. Did they do that? No. And when Ralph Baric was interviewed on this

00:38:09.940 in 2021, they said, wait a minute, did you submit your genetic code? Does the virus, does it match

00:38:16.240 your code from here? He says, well, I've had a discussion with the National Institutes of Health

00:38:20.640 and we believe it's a national security issue

00:38:22.680 and we are not going to release it.

00:38:24.660 Now, his virus didn't have in it

00:38:28.160 a key part in the spike protein

00:38:30.280 called the furin cleavage joint

00:38:31.740 and it looks like that was the final thing

00:38:34.400 that was added later.

00:38:35.700 Understood.

00:38:36.400 We hear about spike proteins a lot.

00:38:38.180 What is that?

00:38:39.220 The spike protein is a spike

00:38:41.300 or this projection on the surface of the virus.

00:38:44.320 The ball of the virus is called the nucleocapsid.

00:38:46.480 The red part shown there is the spike protein.

00:38:49.980 The ball itself is benign.

00:38:52.120 That's not going to kill you.

00:38:53.780 All the lethality in SARS-CoV-2, what killed people,

00:38:58.120 and some people truly did die of this, was the spike protein.

00:39:01.320 The spike protein allows the virus to inject itself in the body.

00:39:05.780 We sacrifice the part of the spike protein near the ball.

00:39:09.140 The S2 is sacrificed, and S1 goes into the body.

00:39:14.120 Now, that's with the infection.

00:39:16.420 The vaccines, Pfizer and Moderna, are the genetic code for the full spike protein.

00:39:22.000 So you take one of those vaccines, now the genetic code is producing the full length spike protein in the human body.

00:39:29.240 Was there a moment, do you think, when they planned to unleash the virus or did it just naturally sort of enter society?

00:39:36.740 That's where I'm a little bit confused.

00:39:38.080 Was there like a day, like a D-Day of sorts where it's like, okay, this is when we're going to just unleash this virus into the world?

00:39:45.120 Or do you think it was unleashed on accident?

00:39:46.940 Like, what is your thoughts on that?

00:39:48.720 You know, I don't exactly know,

00:39:50.880 but I have listened to many opinions.

00:39:53.200 And one opinion who I think is on target

00:39:55.940 is former CDC director Robert Redfield.

00:39:58.580 He believes it leaked out by accident summer of 2019.

00:40:04.340 Accident, it just seems so,

00:40:05.660 it feels like there'll be so much security

00:40:07.760 around something like this.

00:40:09.220 No, no, there are-

00:40:11.060 But if everybody's keeping it a secret.

00:40:12.380 Listen, we've published this on my Substack, Focal Points, Nick Kulstra at McCullough Foundation.

00:40:19.480 There's over 3,000 biolabs.

00:40:22.240 Do you know there have been hundreds and hundreds of leaks?

00:40:25.140 This one down in Galveston, there's been a ton of leaks.

00:40:28.300 In Galveston, Texas?

00:40:29.260 Sure.

00:40:31.680 These labs require biosecurity level four, means you have to wear a hazmat suit, and they use reverse ventilation, what have you.

00:40:40.120 All you need is a ventilation system going out, someone spilling a test tube, someone not being careful.

00:40:46.840 And the Biden administration in 2024, in the summer of 2024, published this legislation.

00:40:52.520 And it's concerning pathogens of pandemic potential that are dual purpose.

00:41:00.780 It's very important.

00:41:01.760 I'm a little confused.

00:41:02.880 And what that means is we are in the business of creating pathogens that can create pandemics, but they have a dual purpose, to get the world sick and to create vaccines.

00:41:17.860 I see what you're saying.

00:41:18.940 So they're able to create a pathogen now that can get you just sick enough, you're saying?

00:41:24.080 Get the whole world sick.

00:41:25.560 Now, that's kind of tricky because—

00:41:27.860 Let me read this really fast, sorry.

00:41:28.700 There have been no recent reports of community-wide leak or environmental breach from the biolabs in Galveston as early as 2026.

00:41:37.080 In February 2025, reports disclosed that there were three incidents in 2024 where researchers were potentially exposed to infectious agents within the high-containment labs.

00:41:47.580 The Chaparra virus, a lab worker, accidentally punched their finger with a needle while handling an infected guinea pig.

00:41:55.200 Shout out, guinea pigs, all of them. 0.99

00:41:57.860 Chaparra is a rare, deadly hemorrhagic fever virus.

00:42:01.060 Anthrax were also cited in the annual biosafety summer release

00:42:03.640 and containment status.

00:42:05.900 In all three cases, the incidents were contained inside the lab.

00:42:08.720 So let's go to thefocalpoints.com.

00:42:11.040 We're going to have to start going to the original papers

00:42:12.680 because you're getting snowed on artificial intelligence.

00:42:16.660 You're getting snowed.

00:42:18.340 Okay, now do the search button up there

00:42:20.260 and type in biolab leak.

00:42:25.100 Galveston?

00:42:26.080 No, it'll come up.

00:42:26.960 Okay.

00:42:27.660 Let's pick any one of those.

00:42:29.360 Just pick the UNC Chapel Hill.

00:42:32.460 That's it right there.

00:42:35.360 Click on the link right there.

00:42:39.500 And this is what I do.

00:42:40.720 I just go from the original papers.

00:42:43.620 None of this, I think.

00:42:45.820 Yeah, because a lot of AIs, that was Jim and I, I think.

00:42:47.940 A lot of AIs, you just don't know what they're pulling in.

00:42:49.580 You're getting snowed.

00:42:50.320 The illusion of biosafety during SARS-CoV-2 research.

00:42:54.200 Multiple apparent occult lab acquired infections.

00:42:57.200 identified under BSL-3 conditions, premier U.S. labs.

00:43:00.260 And so, you know, we're starting to get the idea that these labs are not infallible.

00:43:06.320 And, you know, Trump has actually stopped federal funding of these,

00:43:11.600 but they're richly funded by foundations like Gates Foundation, Rockefeller Trust,

00:43:15.600 Wellcome Trust, and they're big business for universities.

00:43:19.860 Do you know that not a single state has done an inventory of their bio labs?

00:43:25.300 And I'm on the Senate committee for Arizona.

00:43:28.120 And they asked, well, doc, what can we do to do better next time?

00:43:30.920 I said, why don't you do an inventory of what universities are running biolabs?

00:43:35.100 Wow.

00:43:35.460 So there's biolabs on college campuses right now. 1.00

00:43:37.960 Oh, for sure.

00:43:38.780 And are some of them handling pretty severely infectious diseases?

00:43:41.980 Yes.

00:43:42.600 Really?

00:43:43.000 Yeah.

00:43:43.280 Go back to-

00:43:44.180 Like which ones?

00:43:44.720 Do you know?

00:43:45.180 Go back to focal points.

00:43:46.860 And I want you to pull up one I did.

00:43:48.560 search on this and do a pandemic potential dual. You're going to get the Biden ministry. There we

00:43:57.320 go. Click on the top one. This is the government, just scroll down. This is the government

00:44:03.440 work on pandemics. This is the bioweapons convention, 1975, that says we shouldn't

00:44:12.420 be in this business. So they call them biological threats and just go down. The Biden administration

00:44:19.560 put out guidance on this, of this dual use potential. And it's a 31 page document and it's

00:44:30.420 very minimal oversight. Listen, if you were making a nuclear bomb in a university lab,

00:44:37.900 you'd have the nuclear, here it is,

00:44:40.180 you'd have the Nuclear Regulatory Commission all over you.

00:44:43.380 And here, this is so light.

00:44:46.820 Voluntary reporting, just kind of tell us what you're generally doing.

00:44:51.560 You know, there was a biolab that someone found in Ridley, California.

00:44:56.740 There was one recently in Las Vegas.

00:44:59.820 It's been said, I can't back it up, but it said they're all over Ukraine.

00:45:04.660 Wow.

00:45:04.860 I am telling you, the next threat we have is from a biolab. 1.00

00:45:08.560 I feel pretty strongly about it.

00:45:10.280 Well, I think based on what's happened recently, yeah.

00:45:12.540 I mean, I think that would make a lot of sense to say.

00:45:15.480 You know, America feels super compromised, I feel like, in a lot of—I know, shocking.

00:45:20.260 And I think we trusted the red, white, and blue, you know?

00:45:23.300 You believe that America was this thing for so long.

00:45:26.080 And it may have been at some point.

00:45:27.880 But I feel like the number one thing that I notice amongst a lot of my friends

00:45:31.880 is that people just feel that this is everyone's questioning everything right now um that we don't

00:45:37.340 trust um we don't trust that our country that our government that our um that the entities out there

00:45:44.000 are looking out for our best interest at all in fact that they're using us as prey what what

00:45:49.360 countries uh do you feel like are leading the way in um in fighting for like truth and transparency

00:45:57.080 Do you feel like, and then with that said, how hard would it be for there to be this

00:46:02.140 world, um, like pandemic cabal to take over?

00:46:06.820 Has the world ever agreed on anything?

00:46:09.640 No.

00:46:10.220 All 193 countries ever?

00:46:13.280 No.

00:46:14.120 Written language, religion, nothing.

00:46:17.680 But suddenly this pandemic comes out and all the countries agree that essentially there's

00:46:24.660 one solution, mass vaccination. You've got genetic vaccines that have never been used in mankind

00:46:34.340 ever. And we're talking about largely messenger RNA vaccines, Pfizer and Moderna, which are the

00:46:39.820 leads. So we'd never use genetic vaccines in the history of man? Never. And so- Is that true?

00:46:47.340 Bring that up. These are the first genetic, what does that mean exactly? They're the first human

00:46:52.820 messenger RNA vaccines.

00:46:54.980 It's the genetic code

00:46:56.620 for the lethal spike protein.

00:46:59.780 Got it.

00:47:00.820 What a gamble.

00:47:02.580 So you have a protein

00:47:04.080 that's been worked on

00:47:05.660 for years and years and years

00:47:06.640 and it's lethal.

00:47:08.360 It's proven to be lethal.

00:47:10.580 Then we create the genetic code

00:47:12.520 for this lethal protein

00:47:15.640 and inject the genetic code

00:47:17.640 with no idea

00:47:19.620 what's going to shut it off.

00:47:21.560 No, genetic vaccines

00:47:22.560 such as mRNA or DNA vaccines had not been used in humans before 2020. They underwent

00:47:27.160 preclinical testing and early phase human clinical trials for conditions like influenza,

00:47:31.860 rabies, Zika, HIV, and cancer, but none received regulatory approval or widespread use prior to

00:47:37.580 the COVID-19 pandemic. Wow. Now listen, messenger RNA has been around for a long time. There's a

00:47:42.640 paper by Lalani and colleagues, British Medical Journal, that dates messenger RNA development back

00:47:49.480 about 1985. Billions of dollars were poured into this by countries all over. Big companies,

00:47:57.340 CureVac, Sanofi, BioNTech came along, Moderna. And there's a love affair with messenger RNA

00:48:05.100 technology. I'm telling you, love affair. Can you imagine any protein we want to, we can make the

00:48:11.040 code for, inject it, and start making a protein? The enthusiasm for messenger RNA is through the

00:48:17.560 roof and you know when this pandemic came along it was it was like go time for those people in

00:48:25.000 messenger rna world and it was a very important uh development step and i think it's very

00:48:31.640 unfortunate no one briefed trump on this darpa a research unit of the military and this one you

00:48:38.460 have to bring up on the screen guys and darpa is basically there there are governments lab yeah

00:48:45.480 Okay.

00:48:46.280 Military.

00:48:47.340 Got it.

00:48:47.780 DARPA has a program in 2012.

00:48:51.540 It's called the ADEPT P3 program.

00:48:55.060 They announced in 2012 that our aspiration is to end pandemics within 60 days using messenger RNA vaccines in 2012.

00:49:06.760 See if you can bring up.

00:49:07.620 Yeah, click on P3 right there.

00:49:09.260 Okay.

00:49:09.840 Click on that and scroll down and you'll see.

00:49:12.320 aims to specifically to develop a scalable, adaptable,

00:49:15.400 and rapid response platform capable of producing

00:49:17.380 relevant numbers of doses against any known

00:49:20.200 or previously unknown infectious threat

00:49:22.160 within 60 days of identification of such a threat

00:49:25.160 in order to keep the outbreak from escalating

00:49:27.180 and disruptions to the military and homeland.

00:49:29.100 Now click on that next link, Autonomous.

00:49:32.120 Now roll down, there should be a figure.

00:49:35.020 Is there a link there?

00:49:36.140 I guess not.

00:49:38.280 But they literally show messenger RNA

00:49:41.740 in a little life cycle,

00:49:44.300 that that's what they're using in 2012.

00:49:46.700 Leilani points out that this has been going on

00:49:49.300 for the longest time.

00:49:50.280 It's almost as if a technology waiting for a use.

00:49:54.000 And when this rolled out,

00:49:56.640 to me, one of the greatest blunders

00:50:00.200 was that there was no way to shut off this genetic code.

00:50:04.880 And so-

00:50:06.000 What do you mean, no way to shut off

00:50:07.180 once it's injected into you?

00:50:08.220 Yes.

00:50:09.220 So normally, cells make messenger RNA.

00:50:12.860 So we have our DNA, and the DNA codes for a message.

00:50:17.320 The messenger RNA is made.

00:50:18.540 It goes outside the cell, and it works with ribosomes,

00:50:24.180 and it makes a protein, like insulin.

00:50:26.700 And then the messenger RNA is immediately dissolved with enzymes.

00:50:30.080 Done.

00:50:30.800 And so this cycle goes on and on and on.

00:50:33.300 So the ability to make synthetic messenger RNA is powerful.

00:50:37.020 But the reason why the development program stumbled so long is that it was immediately

00:50:43.380 dissolved by these enzymes.

00:50:45.900 So Carrico and Wiseman, who won the Nobel Prize in 2023, I believe, they came up with

00:50:53.800 a process of replacing one of the base pairs in the code in messenger RNA, uracil, for

00:51:00.380 a synthetic one called pseudouridine.

00:51:03.860 Once that happened,

00:51:05.920 they were able to make the messenger RNA indestructible.

00:51:09.000 Human enzymes can't break it down.

00:51:11.540 Now it's game on.

00:51:13.080 Oh, now it's ready.

00:51:13.940 So now you, Carrico and Wiseman, 2023 Nobel Prize.

00:51:17.500 But this was after COVID had come out.

00:51:19.460 I know, but the work was,

00:51:20.500 and don't forget Nobel Prize is usually granted

00:51:23.060 for 20 years of work.

00:51:24.580 So they were working on this for years.

00:51:27.780 So Pfizer, Moderna,

00:51:29.320 when they went through their decision-making on this,

00:51:31.460 let's try to just replace 25% of the uracils

00:51:36.060 well it still gets dissolved

00:51:37.160 50% still gets dissolved

00:51:38.820 75%

00:51:39.640 they finally said screw it

00:51:41.040 replace all of it

00:51:42.700 let's make it fully synthetic

00:51:44.980 well let me tell you what

00:51:46.800 this gets injected in the human body

00:51:49.080 I was alarmed

00:51:51.600 when that proposal was made

00:51:52.980 I published an op-ed

00:51:54.060 so they have a fully synthetic genetic code inside of you?

00:51:57.300 yes

00:51:57.580 that can't be dissolved?

00:51:59.700 cannot be dissolved

00:52:00.460 that's Pfizer and Moderna

00:52:01.980 and I published an op-ed in The Hill

00:52:05.140 and myself and Scott Atlas were invited through 2020

00:52:09.100 to kind of guide a house in the Senate and White House

00:52:13.560 on what's going on with the pandemic

00:52:14.660 and I published an op-ed in The Hill in August of 2020

00:52:19.120 and the title of the op-ed is

00:52:21.480 The Great Gamble of the COVID-19 Vaccine Development Program

00:52:26.700 so I called it out

00:52:28.800 I said, listen, this is a gamble, and when this rolled out, the CDC says, well, it just stays in the arm and it'll be there for a couple days.

00:52:38.300 We have now one of my patients in Dallas, and we've just published it.

00:52:42.760 There you go.

00:52:43.360 The Great Gamble.

00:52:44.380 You're looking at the only public figure in the world who questioned the vaccines before they came out.

00:52:49.900 The only one.

00:52:51.700 You can't find another person who put it in writing big time before they came out.

00:52:56.820 They came out December.

00:52:57.620 They came out December of 2020.

00:53:00.260 No one did.

00:53:01.060 PMAC.

00:53:01.700 No one else did it.

00:53:04.360 I mean, the point I'm making is the entire world was seduced by this technology.

00:53:11.640 For sure.

00:53:12.480 This seduction was overwhelming.

00:53:14.760 Every country signed on to this.

00:53:16.440 They couldn't wait to do this.

00:53:18.380 Can you search that and see if the genetic code that was injected with the mRNA vaccines, it doesn't?

00:53:24.680 Go to McCullough Foundation.

00:53:27.240 McCulloughFND.org, and I'll get you the link there.

00:53:30.040 But the point is, we have one of my patients.

00:53:32.480 This guy's taken three Pfizer shots.

00:53:35.380 He's had blood clots, MRI-proven heart damage, neurologic damage.

00:53:41.260 He's absolutely miserable with these shots.

00:53:43.820 And so we work with a lab in Germany that can actually detect the spike protein.

00:53:48.600 And scroll down to our publications.

00:53:50.940 You should find it here.

00:53:53.620 But this is on your own website, is it?

00:53:55.220 But it links to the publication.

00:53:57.360 Everything I do is peer-reviewed and published.

00:53:59.340 So that's him right there, actually, if you want to see him.

00:54:03.200 That's Steve Kempin, the man right there with the glasses on.

00:54:09.800 He's got Pfizer circulating his bloodstream 3.6 years after the shots.

00:54:14.620 It looks hot.

00:54:16.040 It's in his skin.

00:54:17.100 We did skin biopsies.

00:54:18.160 We did two sets of skin biopsies, multiple sets of blood tests.

00:54:23.120 Okay.

00:54:23.360 Okay. And is this the only patient like this you've found?

00:54:26.800 Well, it's the only, with every seminal observation, he is the seminal observation.

00:54:33.580 What does that mean?

00:54:34.580 That means the first one. It's the first observation. There it is. That's the central

00:54:38.840 figure. This is essentially what we found in Steve Kempin. So this is the work we're doing

00:54:43.840 at McCullough Foundation. You know, Harvard's not doing this. Mayo Clinic's not doing this.

00:54:48.400 There's sick people who took the vaccine. They are not looking for the spike protein.

00:54:52.600 They're not looking for the vaccine.

00:54:54.820 They're baffled.

00:54:56.920 You know, the Biden administration spent a billion dollars on long COVID,

00:55:01.040 never considered the spike protein, which is the cause of long COVID.

00:55:04.780 When you get the infection, a part of the spike protein gets stuck in your body.

00:55:09.260 You take the vaccine, you get the full-length spike protein in your body.

00:55:11.980 No wonder you feel sick.

00:55:12.980 Why wouldn't they be trying to figure it out?

00:55:14.720 Because there's money there too.

00:55:16.700 It's the most interesting observation ever.

00:55:21.760 There's no lectures on the spike protein or vaccine injuries.

00:55:26.520 There's no grand rounds.

00:55:28.100 There's no primary care updates.

00:55:30.760 The Biden administration spent a billion dollars on long COVID research.

00:55:33.880 They didn't do a single spike protein or messenger RNA research study.

00:55:38.820 Now we have a new administration in.

00:55:40.460 They haven't done it.

00:55:42.520 No one will look directly at the problem in the entire world.

00:55:48.320 And on top of this, there's plenty of evidence suggesting each vial was different.

00:55:54.240 Each batch was different.

00:55:55.460 Some were super loaded.

00:55:56.680 Some didn't have much in it at all.

00:55:58.380 There's tremendous batch-to-batch variability.

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00:58:41.260 Do you know that not a single country has initiated a safety review of these vaccines?

00:58:48.740 not a single country has opened the vials to inspect them for quality or purity and not a

00:58:55.260 single country they're in they're on in 140 markets not a single country has pulled them

00:59:01.320 off the market why though but and how would you get all of these countries to go along with this

00:59:07.300 continually and agree like there has to still be some like countries out there who willing to raise

00:59:12.500 their hand and ask questions, huh?

00:59:14.500 None.

00:59:15.520 It's a mind-blowing reality.

00:59:19.660 You can't get people to agree.

00:59:21.600 This is the biggest oblivion.

00:59:22.820 I know you can't get them to agree.

00:59:23.960 But you are saying you're getting them all to agree

00:59:26.800 to not look into this.

00:59:28.820 Yes.

00:59:29.800 How?

00:59:32.260 I was asked to lecture last year in Chautauqua,

00:59:36.540 which is actually a great honor.

00:59:38.260 Chautauqua is the heart of modern American liberalism.

00:59:41.140 liberalism. It's in Western New York. Roosevelt's have lectured there. And I thought about this.

00:59:48.920 How can this be? How can not a single medical school have a spike protein project looking at

00:59:56.120 this? And I picked two prior examples where there is a complete oblivion to a big problem.

01:00:06.700 The first one was 1860 to 1920,

01:00:10.780 what I call the first great cocaine epidemic.

01:00:14.160 Every drug made by all the pharmaceutical companies

01:00:16.940 was cocaine derivatives.

01:00:18.300 It was in Coca-Cola.

01:00:19.880 It was in Chianti Wine.

01:00:21.480 All the doctors experimented with this.

01:00:24.020 The nurses used it. 0.99

01:00:25.000 All the medical journals were publishing effects of cocaine,

01:00:28.620 improving energy in JAMA, New England Journal of Medicine.

01:00:32.580 Halstead, the father of modern surgery,

01:00:35.440 Used cocaine as an anesthetic.

01:00:36.780 He became a brutal cocaine addict.

01:00:39.320 So did Sigmund Freud.

01:00:40.940 He was on it, huh?

01:00:41.880 Right.

01:00:42.480 So listen, this goes on for 60 years.

01:00:46.660 In Gemma, our U.S. medical journal,

01:00:49.800 in 60 years with hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of papers on cocaine,

01:00:53.820 there was one paper by an Irish doctor who said,

01:00:59.060 I'm concerned this is causing addiction.

01:01:02.020 One in 60 years.

01:01:04.660 a complete oblivion to the addictive potential of cocaine.

01:01:09.620 So you're saying that it's possible.

01:01:11.260 Okay, let me give you another example.

01:01:13.620 1920 to 1978, what I call smoke fest.

01:01:19.200 Everyone smoked.

01:01:21.960 Doctors smoked, nurses smoked, everyone smoked,

01:01:24.260 people in high society, smoke, smoke, smoke, smoke, smoke.

01:01:26.620 Doctors handed out cigarettes in the clinics.

01:01:29.480 RGR Reynolds, an American tobacco company,

01:01:31.720 Philip Morse, they had doctor-

01:01:34.020 Prescribed cigarettes?

01:01:35.020 No, they had cigarette promotional campaigns

01:01:37.820 where the doctors handed out cigarettes.

01:01:39.460 They said which ones they thought were the best

01:01:41.040 and doctors claiming smoking is safe.

01:01:44.240 This goes on and on and on.

01:01:47.260 And finally, Sir Austin Bradford Hill in the UK,

01:01:51.280 an epidemiologist, and Richard Dahl, a medical doctor,

01:01:54.980 present data in the UK in 1950.

01:01:58.400 And they said, it looks like smoking causes lung cancer.

01:02:01.520 No, you can't be.

01:02:02.860 You're smeared and discredited, debunked. 1.00

01:02:07.080 Loser. 1.00

01:02:07.740 If it was social media, they would have been canceled. 0.99

01:02:10.100 They would have been thrown off YouTube for saying that smoking caused lung cancer.

01:02:14.120 They do the physician smoking study.

01:02:16.280 They come back four years later.

01:02:17.380 They say, listen, smoking is causing cancer.

01:02:20.120 In fact, half of British doctors are dying of smoking-related conditions.

01:02:24.200 Still doesn't convince them.

01:02:26.320 In the United States, this goes all the way to 1964.

01:02:29.840 Luther Terry, our Surgeon General, calls a meeting to Washington of the doctors and says,

01:02:35.920 listen, I got the Surgeon General report, smoking causes lung cancer.

01:02:40.560 Doctors were still smoking.

01:02:42.140 They still didn't believe him.

01:02:44.020 In fact, doctors were smoking in the operating room, in the clinic.

01:02:47.580 A great book is The Emperor of All Maladies by Mukherjee, one that Pulitzer Prizes in his first book.

01:02:54.720 He describes the lead surgeon at Johns Hopkins

01:02:56.860 taking out these blackened lung cancers in surgery.

01:03:01.780 And he was smoking all the time when he was doing the surgery

01:03:04.500 and teaching the students, no, smoking doesn't,

01:03:06.800 the black smoke doesn't cause the lung cancer.

01:03:09.740 He himself dies of lung cancer.

01:03:11.700 And on his deathbed, he still says that smoking doesn't cause lung cancer.

01:03:14.460 It's not until 1978 before the AMA sheepishly comes out

01:03:19.500 with its first brochure, The Dangers, Health Hazards of Smoking. And it's not until the 1990s

01:03:25.980 before we have the tobacco settlement. So my point is, listen, if cocaine and the doctors

01:03:31.460 being totally oblivious to cocaine because they were seduced by it, totally oblivious to smoking

01:03:37.660 because they were seduced by it, and now totally oblivious to the hazards of these COVID vaccines,

01:03:43.300 we got three examples here. What's common to all of them? Self-participation.

01:03:49.500 That is, they did it themselves.

01:03:51.180 Can you imagine if you told a doctor, listen,

01:03:53.280 did you take the Pfizer-Moderna vaccines?

01:03:56.020 Yeah.

01:03:56.680 Do you know they don't leave the body

01:03:58.160 and they're still in your body now producing spike protein?

01:04:00.720 No.

01:04:01.400 And no, I don't know, and I don't want to know.

01:04:04.120 And did you have your wife and your family take it?

01:04:06.180 Oh, yeah, I did.

01:04:07.360 And did you tell your patients to take it?

01:04:08.720 Yeah.

01:04:09.500 Do you know it causes fatal heart damage and blood clots

01:04:12.020 and autoimmune problems, neurologic problems,

01:04:15.180 stroke, and it may cause cancer?

01:04:17.060 It's overwhelming.

01:04:18.860 The average doctor cannot psychologically handle it,

01:04:22.840 just like they couldn't psychologically handle it

01:04:24.600 that cocaine was damaging themselves

01:04:26.700 and ruining their lives 0.77

01:04:27.680 or like smoking was causing their lung cancer.

01:04:29.740 It's the same thing.

01:04:31.220 Wow.

01:04:32.160 Yeah, I guess when you look at it like that,

01:04:33.780 that it's happened throughout time,

01:04:35.200 that if we've been standing right there in the sun

01:04:38.420 and denying light, it's pretty wild.

01:04:41.480 What are some of those common side effects

01:04:42.960 that you've seen from the COVID-19 vaccines?

01:04:44.880 Most concerning is fatal heart damage.

01:04:47.980 Myocarditis. Fatal.

01:04:49.920 What is myocarditis? We hear about it all the time.

01:04:51.780 People are like, you know, a kid falls down

01:04:53.880 in a soccer game and people are yelling,

01:04:55.460 he's got myocarditis. You know, you just don't

01:04:57.860 know what's going on. What is it exactly?

01:04:59.680 There was a very important paper

01:05:01.600 by Crossan, K-R-A-U-S-O-N,

01:05:05.840 from Harvard,

01:05:06.680 that found in some people who took

01:05:09.200 the vaccines, found that

01:05:11.340 the messenger RNA is

01:05:13.200 physically in the heart. That's

01:05:15.160 a bad sign. Whatever you take in the

01:05:17.280 arm should not end up in the heart. So it has a tropism for the heart. It actually has a

01:05:22.360 predilection to go in the heart. So there's crossing to 2023. So messenger RNA is in the

01:05:30.000 heart. Okay. Yeah. And let me see duration of SARS COVID-2 mRNA vaccine persistence and factors

01:05:35.480 associated with the cardiac involvement in recently vaccinated patients. Let me see what

01:05:44.320 It's a vaccine was detected in the axillary lymph nodes in a majority of patients dying

01:05:49.280 within 30 days of vaccination, but not in patients dying more than 30 days from vaccination.

01:05:55.380 So originally it was going to the heart.

01:05:57.280 Read farther down.

01:05:58.060 Vaccine was detected in the myocardium, in the heart, in a subset of patients vaccinated

01:06:03.520 within 30 days of death.

01:06:05.540 I mean, it's at the scene of the crime.

01:06:08.000 Okay.

01:06:08.560 Another paper by Baumeier, B-A-U-M-E-I-I-E-R, Baumeier, found the spike protein in the heart.

01:06:19.100 He didn't have the tech to find the messenger RNA, but he found the spike protein in the heart.

01:06:24.000 And there you go.

01:06:25.440 That should be Baumeier.

01:06:26.240 That's it.

01:06:26.640 So, these are images showing inflammation and spike protein in the heart.

01:06:32.960 So, here's the point.

01:06:35.680 The vaccine is in the heart.

01:06:37.420 The spike protein is the heart.

01:06:39.140 When you have inflammation in the heart,

01:06:40.960 the heart is dependent on having a nice, consistent muscle

01:06:45.760 for conduction of electricity.

01:06:47.260 That's how our heartbeat comes, depolarization.

01:06:50.140 When you have inflammation, that creates heterogeneity in conduction,

01:06:54.340 and then we can actually get a reentrant loop,

01:06:57.300 an electrical loop that goes around very, very fast.

01:06:59.540 That's called ventricular tachycardia.

01:07:01.520 And if that isn't shocked or interrupted,

01:07:04.440 it degenerates to ventricular fibrillation,

01:07:06.280 and you're down. Now, the triggers, we've had myocarditis rarely before the pandemic from

01:07:14.580 various viruses and other forms of inflammation. It was known then that we can never let these

01:07:21.960 people exercise because if they exercise, the surge of adrenaline through exercise can trigger

01:07:28.400 this abnormal heart rhythm.

01:07:30.660 Wow.

01:07:30.860 It's in our guidelines.

01:07:32.520 So as the vaccines roll out,

01:07:35.780 and we've had a U.S. Senate hearing on this

01:07:38.440 in May of 2025,

01:07:40.920 people started getting heart damage with the vaccines.

01:07:44.740 And if you look up U.S. Senate testimony,

01:07:49.800 May 21st, 2026,

01:07:53.620 Ron Johnson, Peter McCullough,

01:07:55.160 the u.s government got um got uh communications from israel saying listen we gave the vaccine

01:08:05.980 to all our soldiers we got 60 cases of heart damage and two cases are fatal this came in

01:08:11.700 in february of 2021 the public health agencies uh they all sat on this the white house sat on this

01:08:20.020 and they didn't inform the public.

01:08:22.720 And so more people got vaccinated.

01:08:25.300 Then a big bomb hit, and the bomb hit,

01:08:28.500 that's my opening statement right there,

01:08:30.040 a big bomb hit in August of 2021,

01:08:37.380 where a paper was published

01:08:39.640 from Washington University in St. Louis.

01:08:41.980 First author is Verma, V-E-R-M-A.

01:08:45.920 And they describe a 42-year-old man

01:08:49.360 who takes a Moderna shot, develops myocarditis,

01:08:53.480 gets really sick, goes in the hospital,

01:08:55.300 and he dies right in front of them.

01:08:57.200 They can't save him.

01:08:58.240 With all the technology that we have,

01:09:00.600 life support systems, everything else, he dies.

01:09:03.820 Brutal, fatal myocarditis.

01:09:07.720 And this is New England Journal of Medicine.

01:09:12.200 But here's my point.

01:09:13.760 If there was a new drug on the market

01:09:15.260 and we gave it to somebody

01:09:17.160 and they died of fatal heart damage.

01:09:20.580 There'd be product warnings, withdrawals.

01:09:22.680 Doctors would say, wait a minute, I'm not concerned.

01:09:26.500 Doctors showed no concern over this.

01:09:28.660 Outside of me, I saw this.

01:09:30.580 I said, you've got to be kidding me.

01:09:32.580 This kills a healthy 42-year-old man. 0.99

01:09:35.980 If Moderna can kill a healthy 42-year-old man

01:09:39.720 with all the technology and we can't save him,

01:09:42.900 do you know how many people are dying in nursing homes,

01:09:45.520 in athletic fields and in schools and all over and how many people are dying in in in uh

01:09:51.800 underdeveloped countries but are we seeing an uptick in that like is there any information

01:09:56.560 or would we even get the correct information anymore that's that's because it starts to get

01:10:00.980 to this place where you're like okay if this is really happening i'm not seeing people drop dead

01:10:05.160 everywhere you know um i'm not hearing that but also you don't know if the news is factual or not

01:10:10.720 a lot of times um don't you think you would see like see it happening in mass so that it would

01:10:17.040 really support some of this information that you're saying you'd have to um get to a point

01:10:25.960 where it would be people have estimated this what would be something so significant that

01:10:32.860 you'd see it with your human eye it's probably more than 15 percent more than 15 percent of the

01:10:39.380 population mean you'd have to you'd have to just see bodies all over the place right right yeah

01:10:43.600 you'd literally have to be like oh man what's going on otherwise you'll miss an important signal

01:10:48.040 now there's there's 12 studies showing mortality is actually up since the pandemic not down you

01:10:55.000 know you go through a pandemic there's a culling effect there should be you know sicker frail 0.98

01:10:59.620 people who die and therefore the remaining people have a lower mortality if the pandemic mortality

01:11:04.780 up. Do you believe that the number of vaccine related deaths is being misrepresented? Yes.

01:11:10.500 So let's go to openvaers.com. Click US data. Okay. Nobody's challenged this. This is presented

01:11:22.000 in the US Senate multiple times. These are deaths reported to VAERS by doctors like me who've

01:11:29.120 already determined the vaccine is the cause of death. This is not controversial. I've reported

01:11:32.400 in some of these cases.

01:11:33.560 I've already decided the vaccine caused the death.

01:11:36.760 I've filed the death certificate.

01:11:38.260 I've looked at the autopsy.

01:11:39.400 I've looked at the MRIs.

01:11:40.400 I've looked at all the data.

01:11:41.460 This is not up to the CDC to decide.

01:11:44.180 Understood.

01:11:44.340 I've decided, okay?

01:11:48.180 19,609 deaths.

01:11:51.120 Okay.

01:11:52.920 Do you know how many deaths per year

01:11:54.960 come into this system for all the other vaccines combined?

01:12:00.520 150.

01:12:01.880 $150,000?

01:12:02.920 $150,000.

01:12:03.980 Total?

01:12:04.560 Total.

01:12:05.440 Wow.

01:12:05.860 This is off the Richter scale.

01:12:08.440 Off the Richter scale.

01:12:10.320 And so in House and Senate and FDA testimony, people say, wait a minute.

01:12:17.140 If you don't have the vaccine card and you're not willing to report it and you don't have all the data, it can't be reported.

01:12:23.860 So what is the underreporting factor?

01:12:25.940 There's actually a publication on this.

01:12:27.220 But from conservatively, because people are aware of COVID and fatal side effects, the conservative estimate is 30.

01:12:35.380 And in my publications, I use 30.

01:12:37.140 30,000?

01:12:37.940 No, 30.

01:12:39.140 It's an underreporting factor, meaning this 19,609 is probably underreported 30-fold.

01:12:48.120 So the true number of vaccine deaths is between 500,000 and 600,000 deaths.

01:12:53.400 No way.

01:12:54.040 Yeah.

01:12:54.540 Wow.

01:12:55.880 And how do you get that 30X?

01:12:57.680 Well, there's a paper by Lazarus that said it's 100.

01:13:00.420 It's 100-fold underreported.

01:13:01.900 People said, no, people know about these COVID vaccines.

01:13:04.500 So we are reporting more deaths now than other vaccines.

01:13:08.080 But 30-fold underreported is conservative.

01:13:11.440 It's conservative.

01:13:12.640 But even if there's no underreporting, 19,609.

01:13:16.760 What if we had 19,609 people die from a new energy drink?

01:13:23.440 yeah people would be outraged like prime or whatever right i mean uh you know we we we have

01:13:29.500 a couple people die in a in a building collapse it makes the news you know you have uh uh nancy

01:13:36.520 guthrie bless her heart she's abducted from her home it's on the news for for weeks on end yeah

01:13:42.300 cash patel can't even find her he's out partying right no but what i mean is we he's at hockey

01:13:47.620 One death is too many.

01:13:49.860 But here we are in that 19,609.

01:13:53.400 Are these in-your-face deaths reported in the peer-reviewed literature?

01:13:57.280 And one that really caught my eye is by Gil and colleagues.

01:14:00.460 Gil, Archives of Pathology.

01:14:02.820 This is terrible.

01:14:03.840 This is two boys.

01:14:05.140 They're teenagers.

01:14:06.860 They die after taking Pfizer.

01:14:11.540 And they're found, yes, Gil.

01:14:13.680 They're found in their beds, dead at home by their parents.

01:14:16.900 They get autopsies.

01:14:18.580 They bring an expert pathologist.

01:14:20.840 It's conclusive.

01:14:22.520 They died of taking the Pfizer vaccine,

01:14:25.340 healthy young adolescents.

01:14:27.120 Let me read this.

01:14:28.060 Clinical and autopsy investigation

01:14:29.260 of two teenage boys who died shortly

01:14:31.020 following administration

01:14:31.960 of the second Pfizer BioNTech COVID-19 dose.

01:14:35.860 The myocardial injury seen in these post-vaccine hearts

01:14:39.120 is different from typical myocarditis

01:14:41.000 and has an appearance most closely resembling

01:14:43.100 a catecholamine-mediated stress cardiomyopathy.

01:14:49.580 Understanding these instances are different

01:14:51.480 from typical myocarditis

01:14:52.620 and that cytokine storm has a known feedback loop.

01:14:57.700 Do you want me to translate?

01:14:59.100 Yeah.

01:14:59.740 Okay.

01:15:01.360 It's that electrical loop you were talking about.

01:15:03.120 Wait, I mentioned the vaccine is in the heart,

01:15:05.120 the spike protein is in the heart,

01:15:06.020 there's inflammation.

01:15:07.480 But what triggers the cardiac arrest

01:15:09.100 is a surge of adrenaline

01:15:10.320 that occurs on the playing field during athletics,

01:15:13.100 It also occurs between 3 a.m. and 6 a.m. during the normal waking hours of sleep, called the waking hours.

01:15:19.440 That's what happens.

01:15:20.680 So the pattern of vaccine deaths has been during sports and athletics and then dead in bed.

01:15:27.840 These are astronomical numbers.

01:15:30.860 The simple fact that 150 people die of vaccines each year, right?

01:15:35.840 Is that what you're saying?

01:15:36.440 That's what comes in the report.

01:15:37.820 Right.

01:15:38.440 And this report is saying that there was 19,000.

01:15:43.800 This is just, which we believe is highly underreported.

01:15:46.640 Right.

01:15:46.920 19,000 over five years.

01:15:49.320 But I can tell you, by March of 2021, three months into the campaign, there were 1,600 deaths.

01:15:58.620 And I was called to the Texas Senate.

01:16:00.740 I said, listen, I'm concerned.

01:16:02.820 I had already expressed concern before they came out.

01:16:05.700 I'm really concerned.

01:16:07.960 And you can't whitewash this away.

01:16:14.960 And that's what we saw being done everywhere. 0.86

01:16:18.280 And I've heard ridiculous explanations like,

01:16:21.180 well, these aren't verified.

01:16:25.320 Well, who's going to verify them?

01:16:26.720 The doctor has all the right.

01:16:28.120 When I do a VAERS report,

01:16:29.980 the first three or four pages is all about me.

01:16:32.800 Who are you?

01:16:33.720 Who's making this report?

01:16:35.420 Where's your name?

01:16:36.240 What's your address?

01:16:37.080 What's your email?

01:16:37.720 what's your office address, what have you. Okay. Then the next several pages are who the patient,

01:16:42.380 who are they, who are their relatives, where's their email, what's their address. The CDC has

01:16:47.760 all of this information on 19,000 deaths. Do you know how many people the CDC has actually called

01:16:55.940 to kind of do a study? Zero. Wow. They're sitting on 19,600 deaths. They have all the information.

01:17:06.180 They didn't even send a, you know, a I'm sorry card.

01:17:11.780 I mean, let alone do a study.

01:17:15.140 I mean, to think that the Center for Disease Control, we're so diseased.

01:17:20.420 We're one of the most diseased countries in existence.

01:17:22.680 How they're even still allowed to function to me is just beyond me.

01:17:26.440 I think most people, I'm seeing an uptick of people that want to give births in home.

01:17:31.660 People that do not want to go to the hospital anymore.

01:17:34.040 people looking for home remedies, homeopathic type of remedies, people trying to get off of

01:17:39.600 their antidepressants. I mean, I think it's one of the largest resurgences. There's more people

01:17:45.420 getting into homeschooling right now than there was during COVID, right? If you think about that,

01:17:52.800 that's unbelievable. That's how much people do not trust any of these entities anymore.

01:17:58.260 Well, have you heard that there's measles outbreaks everywhere?

01:18:01.380 I haven't seen it.

01:18:02.520 Yeah, it's all over.

01:18:03.700 Oh, my gosh.

01:18:04.740 Is it true?

01:18:05.700 Well, you know, there are now there's one of the social media platforms.

01:18:13.760 It's called Threads.

01:18:15.180 Do you know what Threads is?

01:18:16.020 It goes, oh, yeah.

01:18:17.140 So go on Threads.

01:18:18.780 I don't think we have a Threads account, though.

01:18:20.560 Oh, I do.

01:18:21.100 But, yeah, you go on Threads.

01:18:22.600 You are, every time you turn around, there's a measles update,

01:18:26.240 another measles outbreak, another measles outbreak.

01:18:28.280 That's interesting that that's where it's at, too.

01:18:30.100 Nobody's even on threads.

01:18:31.720 So of interest, we have about 1,000 measles cases so far this year.

01:18:38.080 And average year, there's about 2,000 in the United States.

01:18:41.080 There have been 40,000 distinct press pieces on measles outbreaks.

01:18:48.560 Wow.

01:18:49.700 And 75% of those encourage taking the measles vaccine.

01:18:55.580 So this is interesting.

01:18:56.780 And by the way, in the pieces, they blame RFK and Trump.

01:19:02.040 Now think about this.

01:19:03.260 RFK and Trump have been in office, what, a year and three months?

01:19:07.460 A baby doesn't come up for the first measles vaccine until about 18 months of age.

01:19:14.140 So the measles cases are seen now.

01:19:16.640 And so the most ridiculous thing is they'll say measles outbreak hits college campus.

01:19:23.620 So why don't you type in measles outbreaks?

01:19:25.280 There have been some of the measles cases on college campuses.

01:19:28.240 And they'll say, you know, they'll blame RFK and Trump.

01:19:31.860 Say, wait a minute, that kid's vaccine decision occurred 15 years ago.

01:19:36.880 How can they blame Trump?

01:19:38.580 And so, there you go, hits the university in Florida.

01:19:42.040 Oh, yeah, Florida, UMass Amherst, I've caught something over there.

01:19:45.020 Okay, so here's another point.

01:19:47.500 There have been measles outbreaks recently in the UK.

01:19:52.160 So in the UK, well, how can you blame Trump and RFK?

01:19:55.720 It's the UK.

01:19:56.780 They have a different vaccine schedule.

01:19:58.620 So here's the point I'm making is,

01:20:00.840 and I wrote a sub stack on this recently,

01:20:04.160 that if you go to thefocalpoints.com,

01:20:08.940 I'll give you the updated numbers,

01:20:13.740 that we have a situation where testing

01:20:16.980 has been ramped up fourfold.

01:20:19.360 Now they're just doing PCR testing for measles.

01:20:21.600 all over. And it turns out the measles vaccine isn't perfect. So in a paper by Bianchi and

01:20:28.100 colleagues, they found about 20% of people who take the measles vaccine, they don't have any

01:20:32.120 serologic protection. I'm one of them. I took the first shot. I took a second shot. I went to

01:20:37.000 medical school. I got a blood test. I took four measles. I still don't have any measles. I guarantee

01:20:42.200 if I got exposed to measles, I would get it. So it's not perfect. But the measles is being used

01:20:48.420 as an example to try to end this whole vaccine promotional world, which has divided people into

01:20:55.000 vaxxers and anti-vaxxers. Have you heard that one? For sure. Are you an anti-vaxxer?

01:21:00.900 No. I mean, I got vaccines when I was young. I didn't get the COVID one, but I don't,

01:21:07.620 I'm curious about the science and I think I don't trust the entities that tell us the things we

01:21:12.700 need to do to take care of ourselves anymore. So I think everything should be put under a

01:21:16.200 microscope right now. Yeah. And I think people should trust their own decision-making. And if

01:21:20.700 that's wrong or right, then at least you as a human can live with that as opposed to feeling

01:21:25.460 like you may have gotten poisoned because then that's out of your, then that's not your choice

01:21:30.480 really. Well, sure. And I think the unique thing about vaccines is they've been, and we point this

01:21:36.320 out in my book, they've been proposed to essentially be a savior to humanity and that you get a

01:21:43.580 vaccine to protect other people. And in many ways, that's a myth. The real reason to get a vaccine is

01:21:50.600 for your own personal protection. So it must be a personal choice. I think it is. Just like you

01:21:54.980 take a blood pressure medicine to lower your personal blood pressure. You're not doing it

01:21:58.480 for somebody else. You're doing it for yourself. But vaccines have been presented that, wait a

01:22:03.220 minute, this is good for humanity and people should do it. And if you're against doing it,

01:22:10.120 you're hesitant, wait a minute, vaccine hesitancy,

01:22:13.940 that's actually a psychiatric disease.

01:22:15.840 Do you know there's 20-

01:22:16.780 Are you serious?

01:22:17.400 Yeah, there's 20 scientific survey instruments

01:22:20.940 to assess your vaccine hesitancy.

01:22:23.160 And if you score above a certain level,

01:22:24.820 you have a disease.

01:22:25.940 Nuh-uh. 0.99

01:22:26.440 Yes.

01:22:26.820 Bring that up, vaccine hesitancy?

01:22:28.480 Yeah, put up McCullough vaccine hesitancy.

01:22:30.280 I just published a paper on this.

01:22:31.680 It's on Substack.

01:22:32.620 You'll find everything on Substack

01:22:33.840 or my Twitter, you guys.

01:22:35.040 Okay, that's it.

01:22:36.820 Throughout history, there's always been,

01:22:38.200 but this is just you writing it,

01:22:39.760 But this is real information.

01:22:40.880 It's peer-reviewed.

01:22:41.560 Okay.

01:22:43.520 Throughout history, there's always been a fear of untreatable, potentially fatal communicable disease.

01:22:48.220 Immunization has been an advancement in population health that has developed over three centuries.

01:22:52.500 However, fear of side effects is a psychological phenomenon that has arisen as a substantial issue for the lay public.

01:22:59.900 Vaccine hesitancy, a complex phenomenon rooted in historical resistance to immunization, poses significant challenges as a concept to the research and public health communities.

01:23:10.720 Who decided vaccine hesitancy was real?

01:23:13.680 Or are you just saying it?

01:23:14.660 18th century.

01:23:15.100 It goes back to the 1700s.

01:23:17.480 Vaccine hesitancy, a complex phenomenon rooted in historical resistance to immunization.

01:23:23.160 Yeah.

01:23:23.860 And in the paper, I identify 20 different of these measures.

01:23:28.160 There's an Oxford measurement of vaccine hesitancy.

01:23:32.380 That's so crazy.

01:23:32.900 And it's just, yeah.

01:23:33.840 So the idea is it actually, you're considered to have a psychiatric disease if you are hesitant to take a vaccine.

01:23:43.760 Wow.

01:23:44.000 That's how far this has gone.

01:23:45.220 And, you know, people say, well, it was really hard during COVID.

01:23:48.080 I lost my job, what have you.

01:23:49.460 In our book, we point out that this is the late 18th century, let's say about 1790 or so.

01:23:56.180 in some of these smallpox outbreaks,

01:23:58.980 and clearly in the late 19th century,

01:24:02.200 you know, 1890 or so,

01:24:03.360 if you decline taking a vaccine or your children,

01:24:07.220 your children go to jail.

01:24:09.280 Families went to jail.

01:24:10.360 Parents went to jail.

01:24:11.960 This was enormous.

01:24:14.140 This has gone on for a long time now.

01:24:18.160 So-

01:24:18.520 Well, vaccine hesitancy is not a disease itself,

01:24:20.260 but is a formal medical and sociobiological term

01:24:23.600 used to describe the delay in acceptance

01:24:25.500 and refusal of vaccines.

01:24:26.960 That makes sense.

01:24:27.640 The term was solidified by the WHO SAGE Working Group

01:24:30.380 on Vaccine Hesitancy, which was established in 2012.

01:24:34.020 Right, listen, pull up the statement by the WHO.

01:24:36.880 It should come down here, where the WHO says

01:24:40.400 that vaccine hesitancy is a major threat to public health.

01:24:46.540 I think it might have even been in that first thing

01:24:48.260 you put up.

01:24:49.680 Yeah, it's a major threat to public health.

01:24:51.200 and so vaccine hesitancy is is basically put forward as a a principle that um there is top

01:25:01.960 10 threats to public health if you're hesitant to take a vaccine 2019 the world health organization

01:25:06.420 officially named vaccine hesitancy is one of the top 10 threats to global health this designation

01:25:10.820 was a landmark moment because it shifted the focus from the vaccines themselves to the behavioral and

01:25:15.100 social factors that prevent people from using them. Okay, but I told you about our government

01:25:21.760 covering up, and this is like in the U.S. Senate, Homeland Security government follows permanent

01:25:27.540 subcommittee investigations. This is airtight. Our government covered up heart damage with the

01:25:32.660 COVID vaccines because they didn't want to promote vaccine hesitancy by telling people the facts.

01:25:40.440 Well, sure. I mean, I think that it's all part of the same thing. It's like, well, if we show this

01:25:45.000 and it's going to make people weary of vaccines.

01:25:46.680 I mean, in our society, safety comes first.

01:25:52.080 It doesn't matter how good these vaccines are.

01:25:54.780 It doesn't matter what they could possibly do.

01:25:58.460 If they're not safe, they should go.

01:26:01.400 Well, our safety only comes first to us

01:26:03.700 and sometimes even then it's,

01:26:05.700 but it doesn't, it obviously does not come first.

01:26:07.840 It doesn't feel like any more

01:26:08.800 to any of these powers that be.

01:26:10.400 Well, does safety come first in automobiles?

01:26:13.200 Yes, because you have all these inspections.

01:26:15.000 Does safety come first when you build your house?

01:26:17.440 You can't get your certificate until things are safe in engineering.

01:26:21.340 Does safety come first in other areas?

01:26:23.320 Yes, except vaccines because vaccines have become a religion.

01:26:30.380 They are accepted as articles of faith.

01:26:33.740 This has been going on for 300 years.

01:26:36.380 It's a religious thing.

01:26:37.720 So if you come in and you say something that violates somebody's religious beliefs,

01:26:44.000 you know what they do?

01:26:44.560 if they're nice to you, you know what they do?

01:26:45.920 They give you the Heisman.

01:26:47.560 They say, I don't want to talk about it.

01:26:49.880 That's what most of my colleagues do.

01:26:51.300 Yeah.

01:26:51.960 I don't want to talk about it.

01:26:53.120 And if you go further, you know what they normally do?

01:26:56.140 Happened to me, obviously.

01:26:57.460 They throw you out.

01:26:58.880 Yeah.

01:26:59.160 They say, listen, you're anti-religious.

01:27:01.640 You're sacrilegious.

01:27:03.100 Get out.

01:27:04.100 Well, here's the thing.

01:27:04.740 This wouldn't be on so many people's emotional radar

01:27:08.340 and truth radar if there wasn't some truth to it.

01:27:11.880 Correct.

01:27:12.400 Like that to me is undeniable.

01:27:14.100 Like I've always trusted my instincts, right?

01:27:15.940 Sometimes I'm wrong, but over time I hone them.

01:27:18.500 And a lot of times they get very keen for me

01:27:20.980 and I operate well with them, right?

01:27:22.980 And I assume that's how most people operate.

01:27:26.160 You mentioned you didn't take the COVID vaccines.

01:27:28.620 I didn't take them either.

01:27:30.240 And according to USA Facts,

01:27:31.780 which takes the tabular data from the CDC,

01:27:34.260 the best estimates are that 19% of us

01:27:38.140 did not take the shots, 19%.

01:27:40.560 now 81 took at least one shot but only 70 took two shots so only 70 got fully vaccinated

01:27:51.160 ah understood okay i'll say this we had a guy we had a guy on last week uh this guy james lee and

01:27:56.080 he investigates a lot of um he exposes a lot of corruption and he exposes a lot of uh like rich

01:28:03.860 people that are just being like deviant you know type of stuff you know companies politicians all

01:28:10.500 that, you know, he's, he's, he's seeking out like, um, he's known for investigations into like

01:28:15.100 corruption and fraud. He was working as a consultant for one of these big biotech, uh,

01:28:20.440 companies. And he said there was a conference call at one point where, um, where a representative

01:28:26.680 from the company was talking about how they had, everyone had been vaccinated that was going to

01:28:31.720 get vaccinated. They, they kind of figured that. And then there were still a lot of, uh,

01:28:37.600 vaccinations left it was a stockpile of vaccinations left and so that they were going to start to push

01:28:44.140 this idea that you needed a further like a because there was extra right not because they thought

01:28:51.360 that people really needed it but because there was extra do you think something like that could

01:28:55.280 be true oh for sure do you know that the pharmacies did not have any blanking period after someone got

01:29:03.400 a shot so like what do you mean there was no timeline between this you get a second one yeah

01:29:08.120 well i mean you got the primary series is you get one shot and then two to four weeks later you get

01:29:14.180 a second shot but after that the idea is well um uh six months or a year ultimately it was decided

01:29:22.940 that they were going to be annual shots but the pharmacies didn't mind giving you extra shots

01:29:28.620 So I had some patients came in, and they were upstanding citizens,

01:29:33.060 and they said, Dr. McCullough, we got our COVID shots.

01:29:35.640 And I was like, oh, boy, I hope you're okay.

01:29:38.140 They said, well, yeah, we're fine, but we're going to go on a cruise.

01:29:41.240 So we went in and got some extra shots, and it's possible.

01:29:46.040 So can you imagine if I was prescribed a drug for a patient,

01:29:50.220 and I said, take one pill a day.

01:29:52.400 And they said, well, it's such a good pill.

01:29:53.980 I think I'll take 20, or I'll take 50, or I'll take 100.

01:29:56.720 Can you imagine me saying, well, sure, just take as many as you want to.

01:29:59.820 We would never do this.

01:30:01.920 And so with vaccines, there is a delusional scheme that the more vaccines, the better.

01:30:10.800 But vaccines have been helpful throughout history.

01:30:13.940 Sure.

01:30:14.540 So in our book, vaccines, mythology, ideology, and reality, there's a reality for sure.

01:30:20.360 So the measles vaccine, that's a good example.

01:30:23.160 It definitely dropped the case count of measles.

01:30:26.220 but it's not perfect, so if you took the shot, you still could get measles, so we have measles

01:30:32.820 outbreaks, and on top of that, there's, like any drug, there's always risks and benefits,

01:30:40.720 so what's the risks of the measles vaccine? This is important. This is another one that's on the

01:30:45.640 Zenodo server, you guys. We just came out with this. We analyzed how many babies died after the

01:30:52.040 measles vaccine, the MMR vaccine since the 1990s? Answer, I think there's over 100 kids, maybe 200

01:30:58.840 kids died. From the vaccine. It was a combination of vaccines, but they found them dead in their

01:31:04.340 bassinet. How many people died of measles during that same time? About six or eight. You get the

01:31:11.500 exact numbers if you guys go on the server. So there are risks. That's the point. Nothing is

01:31:16.880 risk-free. Let me give you another one. But right there, what you're saying is, yeah, it's effective.

01:31:21.480 Yeah, it drops the case count, but you could lose your baby with it.

01:31:25.840 Got it.

01:31:26.400 Okay.

01:31:27.500 Now, what about chickenpox?

01:31:30.120 I had chickenpox as a kid, but my kids didn't get chickenpox.

01:31:34.120 They took the shots.

01:31:35.500 So chickenpox lowers the case count.

01:31:38.800 Terrific.

01:31:39.760 But what's the catch?

01:31:41.300 There's always a catch.

01:31:42.260 That's the point.

01:31:42.880 The catch is that now there's a higher rate of adult shingles if you take the chickenpox vaccine.

01:31:50.200 So you're really just pushing it down the road then?

01:31:52.480 Well, it's a trade-off.

01:31:54.440 It's a trade-off.

01:31:55.620 Who doesn't want chickenpox?

01:31:56.800 First of all, you get out of school for like two or three days.

01:32:00.660 And you get permanent immunity.

01:32:03.900 So there's always a trade-off.

01:32:05.560 So there's an important paper in JAMA recently by Vesuvian, V-A-S-E-D-U-V-A-N. 1.00

01:32:15.640 That said, a large number of parents now

01:32:18.580 are not going to get their kids fully vaccinated.

01:32:20.980 They've seen enough of this now.

01:32:22.420 Is that alarming to you or how does that look to you?

01:32:24.960 Well, I think it's going to bring us back

01:32:26.680 to a more appropriate use of vaccines.

01:32:30.680 Now, I'm not against the use of vaccines.

01:32:32.880 I took every vaccine known to man

01:32:34.760 except for the COVID shots.

01:32:35.980 I've taken all kinds of flu shots.

01:32:38.140 My kids took all the vaccines,

01:32:39.420 so I'm not against vaccines.

01:32:41.080 But I think they're excessively used.

01:32:43.800 And where we're going is what's called risk stratification.

01:32:48.700 That is, there has to be some meaningful risk of the disease

01:32:52.500 for you to take the shot.

01:32:54.920 So let me give you an example. 0.64

01:32:57.160 If you've had your spleen taken out,

01:32:59.500 you had a car accident and you got taken out

01:33:01.200 or taken out for other reasons,

01:33:02.640 like my brother-in-law had a spleen taken out,

01:33:04.480 you can die from a pneumococcal infection,

01:33:07.800 meningococcal infection, or hermophilus infection.

01:33:09.960 It's called encapsulator organisms.

01:33:11.760 I feel very strongly if you've had your spleen taken out,

01:33:15.560 you should get those vaccines because it's compelling.

01:33:18.640 It's like you don't have a chance.

01:33:19.900 I've seen some patients go down with these infections.

01:33:22.940 However, if you're young and healthy like you and I, I mean, come on.

01:33:27.400 I mean, you're not going to go down with a pneumonia.

01:33:31.380 It's just not going to happen.

01:33:33.760 Let me give you another example.

01:33:35.280 This came up recently.

01:33:37.020 A healthy baby born where the mother is negative for hepatitis B, the baby is fine.

01:33:43.840 The baby has zero chance of getting hepatitis B until they get into teenage years.

01:33:48.480 And even then, they're probably going to be fine.

01:33:50.360 Depends on what choices they make with IV drug abuse and sexual partners, what have you.

01:33:55.320 It's just not compelling to give them the hepatitis B vaccine.

01:33:59.080 Now, I took it myself when I went into medical school and I was going to work with blood and what have you.

01:34:05.700 or a paramedic

01:34:07.700 or a police officer

01:34:08.400 but not every person

01:34:10.100 needs to take

01:34:10.500 the hepatitis B vaccine

01:34:11.380 I think it's compelling

01:34:12.700 the highest risk

01:34:14.900 for hepatitis B

01:34:17.540 transmitting it

01:34:18.840 to the baby

01:34:19.360 is in about

01:34:20.760 20,000 mothers

01:34:22.360 who have

01:34:23.260 active hep B

01:34:24.200 most of them

01:34:25.060 are immigrants

01:34:25.580 by the way

01:34:26.080 from outside

01:34:26.640 the United States

01:34:27.180 they come here

01:34:27.780 they have hep B

01:34:28.800 they're going to

01:34:29.460 give it to the baby

01:34:30.180 and so when that

01:34:31.360 occurs

01:34:31.840 the mother gets 0.95

01:34:32.940 the vaccine

01:34:33.480 the mother gets 0.95

01:34:34.140 a drug called

01:34:34.880 fosinavir, and the baby gets hepatitis B immunoglobulin, and the baby gets... So we have

01:34:40.420 for 20,000 babies out of the 3.3 million born, we have a good hepatitis B transmission. It's very

01:34:48.080 effective. It's 90% effective, but it doesn't have to be applied to all 3.3 million. Got it.

01:34:53.840 Yeah, I agree. Recently, even Rand Paul said this. Others said that, listen,

01:34:57.740 we're overdoing vaccines. So I think where we're going is risk stratification. One that's going to

01:35:03.800 come up, you're going to hear about it, is actually the human papillomavirus vaccine, HPV.

01:35:09.400 Yeah, I've heard about that.

01:35:10.140 Again, that's sexually transmitted and it's given to all children in teenage years. But I can tell 0.75

01:35:19.060 you, you know what the most compelling group is that transmits this virus like you cannot believe? 0.99

01:35:25.800 Gay and bisexual men. Anal intercourse, unprotected, watch out, anal carcinoma, 1.00

01:35:31.740 penile carcinoma, et cetera, and oral head and neck cancers. 0.97

01:35:35.620 So the bottom line is, you know, HPV vaccine, yeah, gay or bisexual man, for sure.

01:35:43.040 Everyone, probably not.

01:35:44.480 Everyone, it's got to be an individual decision.

01:35:47.640 So we have to get to risk stratification and freedom of choice

01:35:53.920 as opposed to putting it on a government schedule and forcing it into people.

01:35:58.060 The CDC recommends routine HPV vaccinations for preteens at 11 or 12 years old, but it can be started as early as age nine with the goal of protecting them before exposure to HPV as it works best at younger ages.

01:36:12.420 But here's one question to have.

01:36:14.060 at a certain point wouldn't some of these drug companies or these lower like these

01:36:18.540 like if there's a bigger entities out there that are that are there's this cabal of control

01:36:25.240 um wouldn't they is there more money in them you battling these diseases over time than there is

01:36:34.040 just in one vaccine you know i'm saying like wouldn't it then on the them tabulating how

01:36:38.260 much money they could make off of a person wouldn't it be like oh well it's better if

01:36:42.320 we have them battling these two diseases 0.96

01:36:44.380 or instead of getting a vaccine early.

01:36:46.580 Does that make sense?

01:36:47.180 No, the question is good.

01:36:49.300 If you're a drug company

01:36:50.520 and you say, I've got two choices,

01:36:53.500 I'm going to make a vaccine

01:36:55.520 or I'm going to make a drug to treat the disease.

01:36:58.640 You would take the vaccine every time

01:37:00.480 because the vaccine,

01:37:02.340 let's say a universal vaccine like influenza,

01:37:07.860 you're going to give it to 300 million people.

01:37:12.320 That's 300 million doses.

01:37:14.380 Got it.

01:37:15.180 If you get influenza and severe influenza,

01:37:18.180 you'd have a drug that's maybe given to 50,000 people.

01:37:21.840 It's night and day.

01:37:23.140 So then right there, that should be information to us that that makes it,

01:37:28.080 like it makes more sense then if you're like,

01:37:29.920 well, let me just wait and see what 50,000 people would have these symptoms

01:37:33.580 or get this, it feels like.

01:37:35.380 From a public health perspective,

01:37:37.360 my view on this is that it should all be about treatment, right?

01:37:41.200 I mean, so, you know, have you ever gotten influenza test positive ever?

01:37:47.860 You've never even gotten it or tested for it?

01:37:50.800 I don't have it.

01:37:51.980 Okay.

01:37:52.180 You never have?

01:37:52.800 Never have.

01:37:53.780 Have you ever taken an influenza vaccine?

01:37:56.020 I don't know.

01:37:57.200 I can tell you.

01:37:58.060 That shows you.

01:37:58.880 It's completely irrelevant to you.

01:38:01.040 I've never had influenza and I've never taken the test.

01:38:03.920 I've never even met anybody that's even said it before.

01:38:05.980 Right.

01:38:06.180 So my point is, why is it recommended for you, me, every human being on earth, including little babies, every year?

01:38:15.740 But is the reason why we're not talking about it or anything or know anybody that has it because it?

01:38:20.560 Well, you don't take the shots.

01:38:22.440 Oh, that's right.

01:38:22.940 But did I once get it when I was a child?

01:38:24.720 No, what I'm saying is it's an annual risk.

01:38:27.120 Oh, I didn't know that.

01:38:28.040 Do you see what I mean?

01:38:28.560 So it's an annual risk.

01:38:29.560 So the point is the fear of infectious diseases is grossly exaggerated.

01:38:36.180 to promote vaccine uptake vaccine mythology and ideology has been going on for 300 years

01:38:43.960 this is medical religion this is medical do you know some doctors will throw a patient out of

01:38:49.900 their office if they don't take a vaccine wow yeah pediatricians will they'll say listen if

01:38:54.880 your kid doesn't take a vaccine they're out of here oh yeah i've seen people fighting about

01:38:59.300 that online like you know they i didn't want my kids to have the vaccines and this is how they

01:39:03.260 treated us um can you imagine i prescribe blood pressure medicines if you don't take this blood

01:39:09.680 pressure medicine i'm throwing you out of my office yeah i mean this is you could it's it's 0.79

01:39:15.060 insane it's it's a religion and how the ideology works uh is like this that there's always been

01:39:22.220 historically tremendous fear of infectious diseases and that we're vulnerable we're vulnerable

01:39:28.120 But through the brilliance of man, man and vaccines can improve upon God's creation.

01:39:37.820 Man outdoes God with vaccines.

01:39:42.400 This is very important.

01:39:44.240 And because the vaccines aren't perfect, we all have to take them.

01:39:50.300 And because this is such a laudable goal for humanity, if some people are injured or disabled or died of the vaccine, they should take it for the betterment of humanity.

01:40:02.960 They should take it for the team.

01:40:04.440 It's collateral damage, and it's acceptable in the eyes of this vaccine ideology.

01:40:11.320 It is a runaway freight train.

01:40:13.980 Look at the front of our book.

01:40:15.040 Look at the coin on the front of the book.

01:40:16.720 Look at the iconography.

01:40:18.520 That's a boy.

01:40:19.440 Yeah.

01:40:19.880 This is a 22-euro coin issued by the Vatican.

01:40:23.560 That's a boy in the tripartite imagery.

01:40:26.980 Oh, there's a boy getting a vaccine.

01:40:28.580 This coin was issued by the Vatican?

01:40:29.940 Yeah, issued by the Vatican.

01:40:30.940 But look at this.

01:40:32.320 This is during the pandemic.

01:40:34.360 The boy should be receiving the Eucharist.

01:40:37.560 He should be receiving the body and blood of Jesus Christ.

01:40:41.080 So you're saying that part of it.

01:40:42.560 He's receiving the vaccine.

01:40:43.980 Yes.

01:40:44.280 So you're saying there's a bigger psychology here of playing God.

01:40:48.320 It's a religion.

01:40:49.420 The point is, it's a religion.

01:40:51.300 That's the reason why people can't talk about it.

01:40:53.160 That's the reason why doctors are nuts over this.

01:40:55.540 That's the reason why there are no lectures about side effects from vaccines.

01:41:00.000 There's no grand rounds.

01:41:01.060 No grand rounds.

01:41:01.900 We can't talk about it.

01:41:04.080 There are people listening to your show.

01:41:06.440 They still can't talk to their relatives about this.

01:41:10.820 Well, now everyone's in a spot where it's like, 0.99

01:41:13.380 it feels like a lot of people know that it's bullshit, 0.98

01:41:17.080 but you don't want to bring it up to people because they've probably had the vaccine and 0.98

01:41:21.780 you don't want to hurt somebody's feelings. Well, what did I do when I came here? I did

01:41:25.080 a quick check. Did everybody take the vaccine? Where are we on this? Because people start

01:41:29.620 to get pretty uncomfortable when we talk about this. Yeah. If you have something swimming

01:41:33.280 in your pool, you don't, you know, and you don't want to admit it, but you can't, you

01:41:36.000 don't have a net, then what, you know what I'm saying? Like, it's a little bit alarming

01:41:39.280 because you can't, it's going to be in there. Well, that's the reason why I have, you know,

01:41:43.460 you have the one doctor in the chair right now where I was the first to devise a method to treat

01:41:50.900 COVID patients to avoid hospitalization and death. McCullough Protocol, the most widely used early

01:41:56.000 treatment protocol in the world. It's been credited with saving tens of millions of lives,

01:42:01.320 sparing hundreds of millions of hospitalizations. Listen, Harvard could have grabbed this. They

01:42:05.340 didn't. I did. And now I've devised the first detoxification protocol. I want to hear about it.

01:42:11.120 Of what people should do when they've had the infection multiple times

01:42:15.380 or they've taken a vaccine.

01:42:17.760 Now, does it only have to be they only took one vaccine

01:42:19.980 or do they have to get at least two vaccines?

01:42:21.640 Listen, whether you take the infection,

01:42:24.100 whether you've had the infection or you've taken the vaccine,

01:42:27.020 you've gotten the spike protein in you.

01:42:29.080 So it matters for virtually everybody.

01:42:30.860 So even if I never took the vaccine, but I tested that I had antibodies?

01:42:35.640 Yeah.

01:42:36.460 Okay.

01:42:36.820 You've had some spike protein in you.

01:42:38.320 So we've been studying this.

01:42:39.540 This is McCullough Protocol, base spike protein detoxification, first published in 2023, peer-reviewed literature.

01:42:47.060 And, you know, after working with every drug under the sun, the Biden administration spent a billion dollars on this.

01:42:52.340 They found no drugs.

01:42:54.180 Turns out three natural products have a huge impact, natokinase, bromelain, and curcumin.

01:43:00.140 Natokinase and bromelain are natural products.

01:43:03.160 Now, we use them in high doses, medicinal doses, but they dissolve the spike protein in the body.

01:43:08.740 They help you clear it out.

01:43:10.260 Curcumin is blocking the inflammatory effects of the spike protein,

01:43:13.920 and they're well-tolerated in high doses.

01:43:16.420 Remember, most prescription drugs are still natural products.

01:43:19.340 They're just in high doses.

01:43:21.000 And so this protocol was published,

01:43:24.780 and then now we've published multiple cases,

01:43:27.300 and I've experienced in thousands of patients,

01:43:29.660 we reliably bring antibodies to the spike protein down,

01:43:33.280 and when we can measure spike protein directly,

01:43:35.560 that's coming down, and patients get better.

01:43:38.260 It takes a long time.

01:43:40.200 So it takes probably over a year

01:43:42.600 to have taken the supplements.

01:43:44.600 And how often should they take them?

01:43:45.860 What do you have?

01:43:46.280 Is that it right there?

01:43:47.740 This is it.

01:43:48.240 So this is the lead product.

01:43:49.620 This is from the wellness company,

01:43:51.700 the Ultimate Spike Detox.

01:43:53.900 And this is high dose natokinase,

01:43:56.600 bromelain and curcumin.

01:43:57.520 We formed a whole company around this.

01:43:59.620 Wellness company is probably

01:44:00.520 one of the greatest success stories

01:44:03.060 out of the pandemic.

01:44:04.140 It's now a global healthcare company,

01:44:06.940 telemedicine, nutraceuticals and supplements, emergency kits. We'll never get burned again

01:44:11.400 because now we have treatment kits for pandemics. And I've told people, listen, I don't think the

01:44:15.940 government's going to save us from the next pandemic, but the wellness company will.

01:44:19.440 And we continue to innovate. People need, in general, they need over a year of this

01:44:25.520 to clear this spike protein out, take a look at it.

01:44:28.280 How do you decide what supplements are safe and effective enough to put in here and what grades?

01:44:32.140 Well, we have a medical board.

01:44:33.620 We had certainly multiple meetings.

01:44:35.780 We went through dose ranging.

01:44:37.620 Once we got to the product, we had to go through the Federal Trade Commission.

01:44:40.680 So this isn't just some white-labeled thing?

01:44:42.340 No, no.

01:44:43.080 This is the real deal.

01:44:44.720 And so it's all science-backed.

01:44:48.340 And we intentionally did not patent this.

01:44:53.420 It's copyrighted mainly for just accountability, but we did not patent it because so many people worldwide need it.

01:44:59.600 Now have fun.

01:45:00.320 Are you on Amazon?

01:45:00.920 Go to Amazon and type in Spike Detox.

01:45:05.060 I did this before I came.

01:45:06.720 There are dozens and dozens of products.

01:45:10.060 There are dozens.

01:45:10.960 Type in Spike Detox.

01:45:12.340 Are there any side effects of it?

01:45:14.340 Yeah.

01:45:15.060 So if you look in the, most of it is ours,

01:45:17.260 but you'll just scroll down.

01:45:18.160 You'll see a zillion different products.

01:45:19.900 So the bottom line is this tells you

01:45:22.120 people know about the spike protein.

01:45:25.000 All this wouldn't be on Amazon.

01:45:26.980 I agree.

01:45:27.560 Now listen, the doctors are not measuring this

01:45:29.680 in the bloodstream.

01:45:30.320 the doctors are not talking about spike protein it's not in new england journal medicine or

01:45:35.200 jama but it's all over amazon that should tell you something it's it's absolutely hilarious

01:45:40.980 or that there's a fear of it out there and people are capitalizing on a fear yeah you know that's a

01:45:48.060 fair point i mean it could be that's a fair point now because i've looked at hair medicine like hair

01:45:52.700 scalp things over a lot over the years on that you find articles like this this will help and

01:45:56.420 they set you up with an article. And then like, even if you don't even go on the link from the

01:46:01.400 article to the product, but then you go find their product and then you realize, and then I've had

01:46:05.800 things come out like this thing doesn't do anything. It was just a phony. But here's the

01:46:09.960 thing. Natokinase is used by the Japanese as a heart supplement because it helps unblock arteries.

01:46:18.620 So natokinase is beneficial anyway.

01:46:22.340 Bromelin is derived from pineapple.

01:46:27.020 It's also anti-infective and healthy.

01:46:28.940 Bromelin is actually used as a prescription drug in a form of an ointment that's used in deep burn wounds.

01:46:35.860 And then curcumin is derived from turmeric.

01:46:38.620 That's anti-arthritic.

01:46:39.920 That's a healthy supplement.

01:46:41.320 So bottom line is, you know, no one's capitalizing because these are three healthy supplements anyway.

01:46:47.760 but we have a compelling case to use them in spike detoxification.

01:46:52.280 How were you able to test that it worked?

01:46:54.300 Well, this is perfect for HHS, Robert F. Kennedy and his team

01:46:59.940 to do a large prospective double-blind randomized placebo-controlled trial.

01:47:04.920 Have they done it yet?

01:47:05.640 No.

01:47:06.780 Have they even called about it?

01:47:08.260 No.

01:47:09.120 What would that trial mean?

01:47:10.700 I mean, 20,000 people in each group.

01:47:12.960 It would probably be a $50 million trial, $100 million trial.

01:47:15.560 For sure.

01:47:16.120 It should be done.

01:47:16.860 I'll be a...

01:47:17.600 So I'll be a guinea pig.

01:47:18.540 This is it.

01:47:19.520 So this is ready to go.

01:47:20.920 A lot of people, as you can tell by Amazon, people don't want to wait.

01:47:24.780 If our government hasn't even started thinking about testing it,

01:47:28.080 people don't want to wait.

01:47:29.560 They're doing it. 1.00

01:47:30.400 Our government's a pack of shit. 1.00

01:47:31.700 Now, remember, anything that actually works has side effects. 1.00

01:47:34.640 You asked the question.

01:47:36.200 This is a form of a blood thinner.

01:47:39.040 So people can have more easy bruising.

01:47:41.580 I just tell them somebody on the way here,

01:47:43.560 if they start to get nose bleeding or bleeding when they brush their teeth.

01:47:47.060 Whoa.

01:47:47.080 No, yeah. So it's a natural product, but it's a blood thinner. The spike protein causes blood

01:47:53.840 clotting. So we have an epidemic of blood clotting. So everybody is prone to this.

01:47:59.340 I personally take it. I took it this morning, take it on an empty stomach. And I had measured

01:48:04.700 my spike antibodies and my spike antibodies, which should be zero, but since I had COVID at

01:48:11.720 least once proven and probably two other times, my spike antibodies were 2,300. And the published

01:48:18.440 literature suggests under 1,000, you're probably safe. You probably cleared it out. It's just

01:48:22.060 residual antibodies. I was 2,300. My ears are ringing. I didn't feel well. I went on spike

01:48:26.940 detox. It took about a year, but I've dropped them to 900. Amen. Let's go. Now, the average

01:48:31.500 person who's had taken a vaccine, who's got a trouble, blood clot, heart damage, they're at

01:48:35.460 11,000. And we commonly

01:48:37.540 see people over 25,000.

01:48:39.960 So, people who are

01:48:41.620 in trouble. How can people get checked to see what

01:48:43.620 they're at to know if it's... Blood test.

01:48:45.440 Super important. Let's go to LabCorp.

01:48:47.520 You can self-order your blood test.

01:48:49.420 You should do it. Yeah. I'm getting some blood work done this

01:48:51.560 week, actually. You should do it. Go to LabCorp.

01:48:54.380 Okay. So, now go

01:48:55.560 to

01:48:56.160 Individuals and Patients.

01:49:01.220 So, go

01:49:01.740 to More On-Demand Tests. There we go.

01:49:03.160 and it's going to be a covid antibody test keep going there we go there click on this this is the

01:49:10.700 test it's 69 okay stop here if you if you get a user id and password right here and you pay 69

01:49:16.540 you use your credit card you pay right here you then the orders at lab corp you can go in there

01:49:22.380 get your blood test and you'll know that night your number if you're under a thousand you're safe

01:49:28.340 If you're above 5,000, you probably got the spike protein in your bloodstream.

01:49:33.440 And if you're over 10,000 or above, you're in trouble.

01:49:36.740 And there's about a correlation of about 0.8 to 0.9 of the antibody to the actual spike protein.

01:49:43.200 Soon there's going to be a direct spike protein test.

01:49:45.580 And we're working hard with companies to do that.

01:49:48.240 But this is a super useful test.

01:49:50.260 Do you know that the Mayo Clinic refuses to order this test?

01:49:52.840 And so does every other major hospital.

01:49:54.980 If you go on and you say, doctor, I want a COVID test.

01:49:57.180 I want to assess my spike exposure.

01:49:59.300 They'll say, I refuse to do it.

01:50:01.280 So LabCorp got so frustrated, they just offer this to the public.

01:50:05.780 They say, pay 69 bucks, you can self-order your COVID test.

01:50:08.760 Good for them.

01:50:09.400 We've published a whole spike guide on this, how to interpret it.

01:50:13.480 And so like I told you, the average person who took the shot who's in trouble

01:50:16.900 in a paper by Barham and colleagues is 11,000.

01:50:20.920 So my mother-in-law, who's now 93, she lives with us.

01:50:24.600 she took two Pfizer shots

01:50:26.720 because we had to get her out of Canada 0.98

01:50:28.500 she was older and pandemic

01:50:30.760 and what have you

01:50:31.440 she's never had a side effect once

01:50:33.720 no sore arm nothing

01:50:35.380 she goes I don't know what you're making such a big deal about these COVID shots

01:50:38.420 nothing and I've been watching her

01:50:40.720 carefully I'm telling you she has nothing wrong

01:50:42.720 with her from the COVID shots

01:50:43.800 I said I can't believe this

01:50:45.500 and I told you I was 2300 I didn't take the

01:50:48.680 shots but I had the illness

01:50:49.700 so we checked mama you know who she was 1.00

01:50:51.940 200

01:50:53.520 No wonder she's fine.

01:50:55.300 So the point is, there's probably easily 85% of people who took the shots,

01:51:01.680 they got basically a dud.

01:51:03.100 They got next to nothing.

01:51:04.480 They have no antibodies.

01:51:05.920 They never got much exposure to spike, and they're fine.

01:51:08.340 The reading that you're looking for, the number that you're looking for coming back,

01:51:10.980 it's what, spike proteins?

01:51:12.060 It's actually the antibody to the spike protein.

01:51:13.960 Okay, so you're looking for the antibody number to the spike protein.

01:51:16.080 If you're under 1,000, then you're doing fine.

01:51:19.660 If you're 5,000 or up, then you should get checked out.

01:51:22.560 going well you need to get going you need to get going on at least on the ultimate spike detox got

01:51:26.720 it and um uh you know once starting the i've treated thousands of patients now i do have to

01:51:32.780 prescribe some drugs in addition for just certain syndrome what does that mean no i mean well what

01:51:37.480 i mean is if there's heart damage there's another drug after prescribed called colchicine okay how

01:51:42.520 do people know if there's heart damage well then you know i've published the kind of the leading

01:51:48.200 paper on this called Risk Stratification. But in general, it's prompted by symptoms, EKG,

01:51:54.120 and an ultrasound. I just do that in my office. Any standard doctor would do that. 1.00

01:51:59.260 But the point is, some people additionally need prescription drugs. But once people are on the

01:52:06.200 detoxification program, and I think I'm the most experienced doctor in the world in treating

01:52:11.140 patients with this condition, I've never seen a new blood clot. I've never seen a cardiac arrest.

01:52:16.460 I've never seen a new

01:52:18.220 problem emerge

01:52:20.360 all the people who are

01:52:22.500 emerging with problems now

01:52:24.200 oh I got a blood clot now

01:52:25.920 oh I've got an advanced cancer now

01:52:28.460 oh I've got some

01:52:29.480 they have not done the detox

01:52:31.500 so important it's probably the biggest public

01:52:34.420 health message I can give on this show

01:52:36.140 is you know if you just

01:52:38.420 want to play it safe and want some healthy supplements

01:52:40.500 anyway a lot of people take supplements they just

01:52:42.080 take it empirically

01:52:43.280 and at least a year

01:52:46.200 and extended use if you have underlying heart disease

01:52:50.200 or risk for blood clots or elsewhere.

01:52:51.780 How many a day?

01:52:53.000 Two capsules, twice a day, empty stomach.

01:52:55.340 Okay.

01:52:55.960 Best time to take it, I think,

01:52:57.240 is if you get up at night to use the restroom

01:52:59.140 and your stomach's empty,

01:53:00.480 take it with some water before you go back to bed

01:53:02.220 and just take it on an empty stomach.

01:53:03.920 Got it.

01:53:04.260 I saw a woman yesterday 0.99

01:53:05.740 who has a rare genetic condition,

01:53:09.080 but it impairs the nerves.

01:53:11.260 What is it?

01:53:11.760 She was good at parallel parking?

01:53:13.200 That's just an old joke.

01:53:13.840 No, she's actually, she's very bright.

01:53:15.280 She's very successful in her job.

01:53:18.880 She comes in.

01:53:20.400 But her genetic condition, the nerves don't allow the capillaries to open and close correctly. 1.00

01:53:26.980 And so she's modeled all over with a pattern called levito reticularis.

01:53:30.800 Doctors and nurses know what I'm talking about.

01:53:33.080 And I saw her walking down the hall because I was getting ready to have her and her husband come in the office. 0.93

01:53:39.240 And she just looked so ill.

01:53:42.840 She looked chronically ill.

01:53:43.880 She's 20 years younger than me.

01:53:45.580 And she said, doctor, I have this genetic condition.

01:53:49.200 And when I took the vaccine, it absolutely ravaged me.

01:53:55.960 And I have intractable headaches.

01:53:58.060 Look at me.

01:53:59.600 She looked so terrible.

01:54:01.440 The condition is actually called Mitchell's disease, if you'll type in Mitchell's disease.

01:54:05.500 So the point is, but listen to this.

01:54:08.100 when she walked in my office i did not know what mitchell's disease was she came in i have i have

01:54:15.340 mitchell's disease so what did i do a smart doctor i get to a certain point where i said listen you

01:54:22.440 know i have to have you change into a gown because i'm going to get an ekg while she's changing in 1.00

01:54:27.120 the gown i go on artificial intelligence and i look up mitchell's disease in two seconds i have

01:54:32.960 the answer. In fact, I even have the genetic mutation from Mitchell's disease now known,

01:54:38.080 which is an SCN9A mutation. And I came back in the office and I do the next part. And I said,

01:54:43.800 I said, so you have this rare disease. It's a mutation of the SCN9A gene that gates a voltage

01:54:51.940 into these nerves. She goes, you're the first doctor who's ever identified that. And I said,

01:54:57.560 you know it's just but the point i'm making is that's the power of artificial intelligence i

01:55:03.500 could have gotten to it it would have taken forever for sure and i i got to it in fact

01:55:07.940 uh before i finished i ordered the correct genetic test on her which she's never had before 1.00

01:55:13.100 got her on spike detoxification ordered the other appropriate labs and she literally hugged me she

01:55:19.700 i have never had anybody even pay any attention to me i'm absolutely miserable at this and now

01:55:26.060 I can see a pathway out of this.

01:55:28.240 That's the biggest thing.

01:55:28.820 People want to, yeah,

01:55:29.720 they just want you to hear

01:55:30.440 what's going on with them a lot of times.

01:55:31.760 Yes.

01:55:32.460 A couple of questions

01:55:33.320 I got to get answers to just so we,

01:55:35.620 RFK has been in office for over a year now, right?

01:55:38.660 As Secretary of Health and Human Services.

01:55:41.520 How do you feel like he's done there?

01:55:43.660 Well, you know, he's a friend.

01:55:45.240 What I'd say is this,

01:55:46.960 is that if we've learned anything,

01:55:49.200 you mentioned trust is low in the government.

01:55:50.940 The government doesn't treat patients.

01:55:56.060 The government's, honestly, not our caretaker.

01:55:59.560 They're not our doctor.

01:56:01.160 And you probably never asked the question, how is Alex Azar doing?

01:56:04.880 You probably know who he was.

01:56:06.040 He was HHS secretary under Trump.

01:56:08.460 Or how did Beshara do?

01:56:10.060 He was HHS secretary under Biden.

01:56:12.540 You probably never asked that.

01:56:13.920 The only reason why you'd ask about RFK is because you know him and he kind of has a celebrity status.

01:56:19.720 Let me just say constructively what I would do if I was in his job.

01:56:24.640 I think that's probably a better thing to say.

01:56:27.580 Yeah, I'm not trying to pitch you like saying something negative about it.

01:56:30.180 No, but I'll just tell you what I would do.

01:56:31.920 Now, the difference is I'm a doctor with medical authority.

01:56:35.080 Right.

01:56:35.840 That's very different.

01:56:36.540 There's nobody in Washington who has medical authority.

01:56:38.940 There's nobody in Washington that's ever treated a COVID patient,

01:56:42.200 that's ever had an important publication on COVID,

01:56:44.980 ever innovated with a treatment protocol or detoxification.

01:56:48.620 There's no one in Washington with medical authority.

01:56:51.660 Medical authority means I am taking charge and I will handle this medical problem.

01:56:57.520 No one.

01:56:58.520 So if I went to Washington, I would be the only one with medical authority.

01:57:01.980 So what would I do on day one?

01:57:03.540 I would have pulled the COVID vaccines off the market.

01:57:05.860 Just pulled them.

01:57:08.220 Say, sorry, I have medical authority.

01:57:09.700 They're not safe.

01:57:10.460 They're gone.

01:57:13.200 It just, that's what it is.

01:57:14.700 It's the call.

01:57:16.880 You just make the call.

01:57:18.720 It's not a political issue.

01:57:19.900 this is a drug safety issue. So I pull the COVID vaccines off the market. The next thing I do

01:57:24.700 is I'd use the power of HHS and the office to do some very important things. Virtually every

01:57:33.280 major medical center and medical school gets funding from HHS, not only through CMS for

01:57:39.740 medical care, but also from the National Institutes of Health and sometimes the CDC.

01:57:44.520 Every week, I'd be having meetings in Washington saying there's a mandatory meeting,

01:57:48.800 Send your dean or your chief medical officer, your chief of medicine, whatever, to Washington,

01:57:53.600 and we're going to have a review of lessons learned in the pandemic.

01:57:58.960 Which hospital had the best treatment protocols, which one didn't, which had the lowest mortality,

01:58:03.060 which didn't.

01:58:03.880 Vaccine safety.

01:58:05.200 This is what we're seeing with the vaccines.

01:58:06.580 It's the reason why we're pulling them off the market.

01:58:08.320 In fact, you could actually call rapid meetings and say, listen, we're going to go over the

01:58:12.060 data and we want to gain a consensus before we tell the public we're pulling them off

01:58:16.040 the market.

01:58:16.360 We want to make sure you got your buy-in on this.

01:58:19.240 And use the power of the meeting to, you know, when you call a meeting,

01:58:24.660 and they happen all the time.

01:58:26.400 They're called Bethesda meetings.

01:58:27.740 In the last two administrations, they literally haven't had any.

01:58:31.000 But we go to Washington.

01:58:32.700 You have all kinds of experts from academia, from the FDA, CDC, NIH, industry.

01:58:38.920 You have public citizens.

01:58:40.440 There's an agenda.

01:58:41.780 You raise some issues.

01:58:43.860 You basically vet them, gain a consensus, drive policy.

01:58:49.700 That's the process.

01:58:51.880 So I'd be doing this every week.

01:58:53.600 When it came to diet, for sure I would have done that.

01:58:56.240 I would have had all the Dietetic Society, American Heart Association.

01:58:59.920 And what I would do in that office is I would get the medical orthodoxy on my side.

01:59:06.780 I wouldn't write policy with just a handful of assistants

01:59:10.300 because there's a million doctors out there.

01:59:12.820 There's a half a million nurse practitioners and PAs.

01:59:15.380 There's 5,600 hospitals, 2,200 acute care hospitals.

01:59:19.420 I mean, come on.

01:59:20.540 The medical industry is too big and too strong.

01:59:23.420 You can't do anything in Washington without the medical community.

01:59:26.720 That's what I would do.

01:59:27.560 And you can make it mandatory.

01:59:28.760 So, listen, if you want to get your CMS funding, your NIH funding, you better show up here.

01:59:33.580 And I would do it for topic after topic, food dyes, fluoride.

01:59:39.320 I'd go through childhood vaccines.

01:59:41.060 I'd go through the whole thing and just use Washington as a convening and talk about make

01:59:47.020 America healthy again. If we had somebody with that type of leadership skills and that type of

01:59:51.340 vision, oh my gosh, healthcare in the United States could be dramatically turned around.

01:59:57.660 Do you think that the lobbies that are there now and the big pharma and the cabal that's out there

02:00:03.660 Now, do you think it, what's its end goal for us?

02:00:08.360 Does it, do you feel like?

02:00:10.640 Well, you know, in our first book, we outlined this biopharmaceutical complex.

02:00:14.740 It's powerful and it has the medical societies with it.

02:00:21.400 Remember I mentioned the smoke fest and this great problem with smoking among doctors.

02:00:27.460 Do you know the American Medical Association was fully on board with smoking?

02:00:30.840 They were getting tobacco lobby money.

02:00:33.660 And it wasn't until 1978 before they have the first pamphlet come out on this.

02:00:39.640 You know, 28 years after the evidence shows smoking causes lung cancer.

02:00:44.800 After everybody made a buck, huh?

02:00:46.580 Yeah.

02:00:47.360 So here, let's just take vaccines as an example.

02:00:52.200 Well, you've got the American College of Pediatrics.

02:00:54.400 You've got the American College of Psychiatry and Gynecology, American Medical Association.

02:00:58.480 I mean, this is a freight train.

02:00:59.880 They all are fully in lockstep on these vaccines.

02:01:05.760 And so the lobby is very tight.

02:01:09.560 And they're told, I guarantee non-physicians in Washington are told, don't you flinch on these vaccines.

02:01:16.360 If you do, polio is coming back.

02:01:19.380 Right.

02:01:19.980 And it's going to be on you.

02:01:21.480 Well, I'll tell you a story.

02:01:22.400 This is one reason why this stuff has always been interesting to me is because I grew up in a community where Tulane University, they had their primate testing facility center in our town.

02:01:32.580 Yeah.

02:01:32.940 And it's where they helped develop the polio vaccine, right? 0.51

02:01:36.640 And they found out at one point that the vaccine that they created was going to also could cause cervical cancer in women.

02:01:45.520 But they'd already made so much of the vaccine that they still gave it out to women. 0.98

02:01:51.060 they you know what i'm saying like so i think i was like literally grew up in this environment

02:01:55.940 where there was always these like weird mysteries and things going on um uh lee harvey oswald went

02:02:02.360 to the same middle school that i went to which was kind of wild um so there was just always like

02:02:07.080 this this allure in our area of like uh i don't know if it's conspiracy because now every conspiracy

02:02:12.160 theory ends up being right about two years later you probably read the book right that miss dr

02:02:16.060 marries monkeys yeah yeah yeah so that took place you know but it was just interesting to me that

02:02:21.260 because all i heard about was this cures polio but then also it helps cause serve it can contribute

02:02:26.400 to causing cervical cancer on women so it just made me think out of the gate like how reliable

02:02:31.160 is what we're doing that's something i've always asked we should you know always trust but verify

02:02:37.700 understand what we're doing now um is very very likely to change in the future do you know most

02:02:45.360 the drugs I use now didn't even exist

02:02:47.400 when I went to medical school.

02:02:49.200 So we get rid of old drugs. We use

02:02:51.380 newer, better drugs.

02:02:53.100 We should have constant drug improvement.

02:02:55.440 We should have constant vaccine improvement. We talk

02:02:57.380 about the measles vaccine. That's a great point.

02:02:59.300 The measles vaccine has not been improved

02:03:01.520 since the 1960s.

02:03:03.880 It's like, what? That's crazy,

02:03:05.580 dude. It's nuts. I mean, there's been no improvement.

02:03:07.940 And one of the reasons why

02:03:09.020 is the 1986 Vaccine Injury

02:03:11.340 Compensation Act, which gave

02:03:12.880 immunity to any liability to the public.

02:03:15.360 You couldn't face any lawsuits, right?

02:03:16.400 Right.

02:03:16.760 So the companies have no incentives to make better, safer products.

02:03:20.480 And not only not to make better ones,

02:03:22.440 but to save probably money on whatever they're currently manufacturing anyway

02:03:26.320 because that's the way that business works a lot of times.

02:03:29.620 Why do you think that no politician wants to tackle big pharma for real?

02:03:34.260 It's always this thing that's kicked around.

02:03:36.720 But no one really does anything.

02:03:41.720 Well, remember, they don't want to touch health care.

02:03:44.460 Remember, no politician wants to touch Medicare, Medicaid, drug companies, big pharma, vaccines.

02:03:52.500 Why don't they want to touch health care? 0.84

02:03:55.460 The reason being is that health care is about 17% of the gross domestic national product.

02:04:01.560 We spend more on GDP and health care than any other country.

02:04:04.300 It's big business.

02:04:05.900 Do you know that hospitals are the leading employer in most middle and smaller towns?

02:04:11.100 health care is the leading employer of single mothers health care is so big we spend so much

02:04:21.060 money taking care of each other it's literally it's a behemoth and people are afraid to touch

02:04:27.220 it because it's such a political hot potato you do anything that looks like you're anti-health

02:04:32.940 care anti-vaccine anti-drug company anti-nurses or anti-doctors you're going down you're not

02:04:38.160 getting reelected. I mean, and if you're a regular person, it's like you won't even work. If 17% of

02:04:41.820 our GDP is going through that canal, it's like a lot of people would be afraid to speak up because

02:04:46.620 they wouldn't even be able to work. Oh, I'm wrong. It's 18.5. Healthcare spending accounting for

02:04:51.360 about 18.5% of US GDP in 2025. If we can't change it, how do you avoid big pharma, do you feel like?

02:04:59.560 You know, I've been impressed in the last six years and I'm constantly collaborating and I've

02:05:07.980 always done this my entire life. So I'm literally out of the medical orthodoxy now. I was the named

02:05:15.480 endowed professor at lecture at Harvard in 2019. Harvard hasn't invited me back. I was a full

02:05:21.740 professor of medicine where I was in Dallas, Texas. So I'm now actually working with naturopathic

02:05:27.580 and holistic and other doctors. And one of them has particularly impressed me where he said,

02:05:33.600 listen, he said, it's nature first, drugs last. So try to find natural solutions. And if you're

02:05:43.420 willing to do this, that means you probably will be taking more supplements or vitamins than you

02:05:50.720 normally would. It probably means you'll pay more attention to diet and exercise than you normally

02:05:56.320 would, but you are intentionally not going to have a reliance on drugs. Yeah. Yeah. And have

02:06:02.420 some responsibility for ourselves yeah i mean it almost did i get to the point in my life where it

02:06:06.880 feels gross even like i mean recreational drugs now that's different but if i just have to take

02:06:12.980 a pill for something or it just oh it feels so cringe to me now even opening a pill bottle

02:06:18.680 it just feels like it has such a sour taste in the world i think for a lot of people these days

02:06:24.520 um but it also saves people's lives there's also a lot of great medicines out there well let me

02:06:30.300 ask you this. What percent of people make it to age 80 perfectly healthy without relying on any

02:06:37.960 drugs? Probably none. About 10%. It's possible. Okay. It's possible. I'm not one of them. I'm

02:06:45.980 63 years old. I've had high blood pressure since age 25. I mean, life-threatening high blood

02:06:51.620 pressure. I can't live without taking a blood pressure pill every day. So I'm not going to

02:06:55.760 make it. This helps. I'm not going to make it. Yeah. Well, I take, I take some natural products

02:06:59.520 as well. But the point is I have people come to my office saying, doc, I don't want to take any

02:07:05.460 medicines. I had somebody like that yesterday. He's already had a heart attack. He has stents

02:07:09.400 in his coronary arteries. I'm going to take it. I said, well, we're going to do the best we can

02:07:12.580 with the natural products. But you know, I got to tell you, if I was you, I would take the

02:07:15.920 prescription drugs. A lot of prescription drugs are natural anyway. And they're just,

02:07:21.060 They're just in purified form.

02:07:22.900 Like aspirin is, it's over the counter, but it's a drug.

02:07:26.500 It's derived from the bark of birch trees.

02:07:30.660 Hydroxychloroquine, which we used in COVID,

02:07:32.260 but we use for malaria and for rheumatoid arthritis,

02:07:35.020 that's derived from the bark of a chinchona tree.

02:07:38.280 Ivermectin is derived from the soil in Japan.

02:07:41.220 It's produced by another organism.

02:07:43.760 Those two drugs specifically, hydrochloroquine and ivermectin,

02:07:46.960 got such a bad rap.

02:07:48.220 If you read Bobby Kennedy's book about Dr. Fauci, it kind of lays out how some of that was sort of like pre-planned, how it was lobbied against in certain environments.

02:08:00.100 It was taken off the shelves.

02:08:01.680 When you look back on those two medicines, what are your thoughts about them?

02:08:05.920 You know, I think that those who really, really were involved in pandemic planning, even in the Johns Hopkins 2017 sparse pandemic training exercise, there was a drug proposed, and it was going to generate confusion.

02:08:26.900 And in the planning exercise, they kill the drug to feature the vaccine.

02:08:31.060 That was in 2017 in the open.

02:08:32.900 And I think it was essentially in people's minds to say, listen, don't allow any drugs

02:08:39.880 to play a role here.

02:08:42.100 We want to feature mass vaccination as the principle. 0.99

02:08:46.640 So hydroxychloroquine killed in the first year.

02:08:49.360 Second year, ivermectin killed.

02:08:51.320 We had IV monoclonal antibodies, high-tech, Operation Warp Speed.

02:08:55.320 They were safe and effective.

02:08:56.360 I used them like crazy.

02:08:57.520 They were taken off the market rapidly, six in a row taken off the market.

02:09:00.800 Colchicine, super useful.

02:09:02.240 Again, natural product, but it's a prescription drug.

02:09:05.160 It was absolutely suppressed and crushed.

02:09:07.780 Corticosteroids were great confusion over those.

02:09:11.680 They were suppressed.

02:09:12.700 Vitamin D crushed.

02:09:15.660 Eric Neputi, who ran a company, the Federal Trade Commission sued him and his company personally.

02:09:20.980 Nasal sprays and gargles, they worked very well in reducing the viral burden.

02:09:26.160 Nate Jones at Clear personally and his company was sued by the Federal Trade Commission.

02:09:30.660 He was crushed.

02:09:32.040 For what?

02:09:32.740 What was he crushed for?

02:09:33.680 For creating them?

02:09:34.740 He was crushed for proposing that we could use them in the pandemic.

02:09:40.220 People forget so quick.

02:09:41.580 Remember how you mentioned anything.

02:09:43.560 Everybody was against you.

02:09:45.020 It could be your neighbor.

02:09:46.260 It was like the news channels.

02:09:48.360 This guy disagrees.

02:09:50.560 Except the vaccine.

02:09:52.460 You weren't crushed if you said the vaccine's the answer.

02:09:54.860 Oh, for sure.

02:09:56.060 But it's interesting.

02:09:57.000 That was in the minds of people.

02:09:57.980 So nasal sprays and gargles, vitamin D, other forms of nutraceuticals, hydroxychloroquine, ivermectin, monoclonal antibodies, colchicine, corticosteroids.

02:10:07.520 The entire McCullough protocol was crushed.

02:10:10.480 It didn't matter if it was cheap, generic, or expensive, high-tech.

02:10:14.160 That told you there was some type of delusion about the vaccine being the only approach.

02:10:22.420 Remember, Paxlovid, the oral drug that comes in, comes in two years into the pandemic.

02:10:28.560 In the first year, all we really had was McCulloch Protocol and hydroxychloroquine.

02:10:31.980 The second year, we really had McCulloch Protocol and ivermectin.

02:10:36.260 So it got so bad, the FDA put out flagrantly false information about ivermectin on its website and on Twitter all over, misleading information.

02:10:48.320 The FDA is sued by three doctors.

02:10:51.420 And this goes through court proceedings.

02:10:53.180 And finally, the FDA says, we'll take down our false information.

02:10:57.800 Why is our FDA putting out false information on ivermectin?

02:11:02.860 It was hurting people.

02:11:04.700 I'm telling you, as a doctor, and again, I have the authority to make this call.

02:11:07.760 I've used it.

02:11:08.760 I've looked at all the clinical trials.

02:11:10.280 I understand clinical trials very well.

02:11:12.160 I'm telling you, ivermectin is safe and effective.

02:11:14.960 I mean, I've done a lot of drugs over the years.

02:11:16.800 I'd do a little probably.

02:11:17.780 was there anybody who was immune to like any genetics or demographics or cultures that were

02:11:28.300 immune to COVID-19 there were a few papers indicating that children were largely immune

02:11:34.780 that they had a lot of cross exposure with other coronaviruses almost no serious cases in children

02:11:40.040 there was an occasional child with cystic fibrosis or some problem who got really sick but

02:11:44.300 children largely immune school teachers because they have so much there was no uh significant

02:11:50.540 spread of serious illness from children to the school teachers but no was there any like was

02:11:55.500 there any like a norwegian person couldn't get it or was there like a um somebody from zimbabwe

02:12:00.680 like was there any like uh there's one adult group you're gonna laugh but there's one adult

02:12:05.320 group but no specific ethnicity or culture but you're gonna laugh smokers smokers couldn't get

02:12:11.980 they got it very mild cases and they don't get long covid you know why why because smokers

02:12:21.760 maintain a level of nicotine in the bloodstream they actually smoke frequently enough blood

02:12:27.600 nicotine blocks the spike protein as it's interfacing with the nicotinic acetylcholine

02:12:34.620 receptor smoking blocks the spike protein it's amazing i thought smokers were going to go down

02:12:41.780 Well, who knows now then all those years of this, all those smoking advertisements ended

02:12:45.680 up probably saving people's lives 40 years later.

02:12:48.840 Well, you know what we use now use, we use a nicotine patch, seven milligram patch, even

02:12:55.280 in non-smokers to help them through long COVID.

02:12:57.720 We use it in addition to the McCullough protocol.

02:13:00.000 I've seen people recommend that people should just be on nicotine of like a take a nicotine

02:13:03.300 pass.

02:13:03.620 Do you think that's a good idea?

02:13:04.520 So on a regular basis, or is that just...

02:13:05.940 I think if they have long COVID, I recommended to a patient yesterday, if they have long

02:13:09.120 COVID symptoms. Nicotine, don't forget, is a nootropic. A nootropic is a drug that does make

02:13:19.580 the brain function more effectively. It's a methylxanthine. It's related to caffeine. Caffeine

02:13:24.640 does the same thing as a nootropic. So some people use nicotine little packets or whatever.

02:13:29.640 I grew up in Texas. So, you know, there were kids where dip snuff in.

02:13:33.480 Oh, yeah. We used to chew that plug tobacco.

02:13:35.960 Right. My dad was a chain smoker. But nicotine itself is addictive, but it's not harmful to the

02:13:43.620 human body. And so is, by the way, caffeine's addictive, but it's not harmful to the human body.

02:13:48.100 What's harmful is the tars that's in tobacco and smoke. So you might even use the dip snuff that's

02:13:55.300 related to oral cancer. But now the purified forms of nicotine, my understanding is that they're

02:13:59.080 safe. The nicotine patches are perfectly safe. And there you go.

02:14:03.120 nicotine is a cognitive enhancer um right before we started i heard you say that the past like six

02:14:10.340 years have been very exciting in your life right um because it seems like does it feel like now

02:14:15.720 that you have more of a sense of purpose um that you've kind of been put like at the pinnacle of

02:14:20.580 this um like being somebody to raise their hand about hey is this safe for us like um because

02:14:27.680 you're so often people look back, like you look like at, uh, at movies that, that like champion

02:14:34.680 a certain person. And at first that person was ridiculed and ostracized, you know, that's always

02:14:40.780 the story, but it's so crazy. And then at the end, they're the champion. And we loud them as being

02:14:45.960 like, thank God they brave the rapids and they did this. But then we'll see somebody in our present

02:14:51.400 lives who are trying to do the same thing. And whether they're right or wrong, sometimes it's

02:14:57.440 like i'm always like that person's trying to do something different right like that person is

02:15:03.700 speaking against the grain how don't you think of all the movies that we've seen where it's like

02:15:09.100 that's the beginning of the story um so i know that like the last six years of your life have

02:15:14.940 been wild you said that um what do you mean when you said that and have you just felt a lot more

02:15:19.120 of a sense of purpose um do you feel more support now than you did in the beginning tell me tell me

02:15:24.520 some of that before we get you out of here. And thank you so much.

02:15:26.740 The last six years of my life called me to essentially adopt an entirely new area of

02:15:32.960 medicine, which is infectious diseases and specifically the pandemic and everything about it,

02:15:40.080 but has also, in a sense, thrust me into the public limelight as a figure. And you'll be

02:15:49.320 the first one to tell people, I didn't ask to come on your show.

02:15:51.940 No, no, not at all. We were excited.

02:15:53.700 I didn't ask to go on Joe Rogan, and I didn't ask to go testify in the U.S. Senate.

02:15:59.040 I'm being called to play a role in this enormous controversy that's unfolded in the world.

02:16:08.440 And sadly, people did die of the infection, and even more people have died of the vaccine now.

02:16:15.740 And we still haven't seen this whole story unfold.

02:16:20.340 There seems to be a groupthink, a madness that we saw evolve regarding fear, masks, lockdowns, hand sanitizer, vaccines.

02:16:32.880 We don't know what's coming next, but I can tell you this infectious groupthink, it does occur among doctors and nurses and healthcare professionals.

02:16:42.860 I think they're very susceptible to this.

02:16:45.020 something has happened in the human mind

02:16:47.600 and we need to have a lot more discussion on this

02:16:50.820 we have to be able to call meetings

02:16:55.140 and have people come together

02:16:56.560 if our government can do anything

02:16:58.460 they just have to bring together the orthodoxy

02:17:01.540 those who are the innovators and the thinkers outside

02:17:06.640 remember in the time of a controversy

02:17:08.440 and a crisis

02:17:10.140 the answer never comes from within

02:17:14.060 the establishment never never previously the establishment for for centuries and centuries

02:17:19.700 was the church and when there's a crisis the church didn't provide a solution you can tell

02:17:24.380 governments all over the world did not provide a solution to the pandemic but individuals did

02:17:31.020 unfortunately wellness company we got like-minded people we formed an entire company we've been very

02:17:35.160 successful um but here we are so i must have been called to play a role in this time of great

02:17:42.540 controversy. It's been so great to be on your show. Yeah. Dr. McCullough, thank you so much.

02:17:46.260 And thank you so much for just being brave enough to speak up and to think out loud. Like that's

02:17:51.360 what we, you know, it's like so many times during this conversation, I've just realized like how we

02:17:56.940 slowly just get like molded into the, like kind of folded into the batter. We don't even realize

02:18:01.920 it, you know? So, um, yeah, thank you so much for joining us today. Uh, yep. I'm going to grab

02:18:06.560 something from the wellness company and, um, yeah, I'd love to chat again sometime and see

02:18:09.780 how things are going.

02:18:10.620 All right.

02:18:11.180 Thanks for having me.

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02:18:20.800 Oh, but when I reach

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This Past Weekend with Theo Von - March 19, 2026

#647 - Dr. Peter McCullough

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