#656 - Fahim Anwar
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Summary
Fahim Anwar is a stand-up comedian, actor, and dancer. His new special, Intrusive Thoughts, is available on YouTube right now. In this episode, Fahim and I talk about his new show, his new comedy special, and the recent fires that have been going on in California.
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I want to let you know that I'll be doing a podcast,
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But that will be with the champ, Iron Mike Tyson,
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on May 5th in Los Angeles at the Wiltern Theater
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You can get tickets at theovahn.com slash T-O-U-R.
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We've been friends for a long time, and it's great to finally have him in.
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His new special, Intrusive Thoughts, is right now available on YouTube.
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Somebody just said there were some fires going on.
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Remember when everyone had that fire app for like three weeks?
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Like, we just were all about that fire app, but like, I deleted it.
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Or are you still trying to find out, like, what fires are going on in Oregon or something?
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Oh, bro, when people had that app, bring up that app.
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Wasn't it just an advertisement for Berkreiser's podcasts?
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It's like, oh, it's on Venice Boulevard, you know?
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Well, it was like, you thought you were going to die.
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Remember when the flames would get bigger and they had airplanes going by?
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And every now and then they would have this like a burning emoji would just run across the screen.
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They would have an icon of a guy setting fires.
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And it was like, oh, leave your popcorn kernels out on your veranda.
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yeah yeah it's crazy they're like oh it's gonna be yeah definitely it's a great day to make some
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it's a great day to get some popcorn going yeah they're probably i mean it was bittersweet like
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the developers were probably stoked yeah that you know everyone's downloading the app but it's a
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shame that like this has to happen for the downloads to go through the roof maybe they're
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starting it dude that's what i was saying i wonder if they could find knowing what we know now like
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i wonder if they could find like a connection between the developers were the ones starting
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the fires because that's what you start to realize in the world it's like yeah if there's a crazy app
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that comes out that helps solve a problem the other side of the makers of the app sometimes are
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they're in conjunction with the people making the problem you got to create the need yeah you got to
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create the need dude Fahim Amar good to see you dude thanks for having me man oh man same thank
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you this is great yeah it's been awesome man thanks for your patience too of course um yeah
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I know you have a new special that's coming out, right?
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It's almost like, yeah, yeah, you could use one.
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Let me just do the biggest podcast and go, what's the name of the special?
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Should I look – I want to hit every camera where I have a brain fart.
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I think I was thinking of my last special and I, yeah.
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But if you like stand up and how it's crafted and stuff, that's a fun one to check out.
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Oh, so like from the stage all the way and then how they ended up in.
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Like I have paper and stuff and there's, you know, the way we write material, you know, you get ideas and you try it out.
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I just, I film it and then I put it up and I'd love to have you do it sometime too.
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It was like you fixing like a motor or something.
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I guess some people in the comments are like, I thought there'd be a carburetor.
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Or I just thought it was like one of like Burt's Chrysler shows where if he like every other, you know, he always has like Burt fights a mole or whatever, you know, right.
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It's like, you know, I'm just I'm working on a different thing.
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Every show, like it's a skateboard, one show, a BMX.
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And then your wife's like, why don't you work on this marriage or whatever, dude?
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they work on jokes and yeah yeah because whoa is that you guys whip that up just now
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yeah wow um if i he man were working under the hood always greasing bro that's just dope dude
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you're kind of black arming there but they've given me bigger forearms i kind of like that
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yeah you look they made me beefier dude with that chassis grease right there that can of it
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Bro, you got to have something on you to let you know when lunch is, bro.
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I haven't smiled this much ever on stage, but I'm just looking.
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Oh, do you see that guy hit the Jumbotron or something?
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that no i missed it what was it i mean this is way less important than your special but let's
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let's veer off yeah another view of the parachuter who hits the jumbotron at the virginia tech game
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this is the problem now with dei dude it's like they can't even get a good parachuter
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do we know the race of the guy who was parachuting though
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he survived i mean but that's crazy bro just another gooner getting too close to the screen
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Dude, you would think, what if the whole stadium just saw a guy die before a game?
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You do a half, and then out of respect, you don't play the rest of the half.
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Say that guy, who obviously was, what was he doing where he got too occupied?
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he was watching footage of him he's like well i'm getting pretty close to that thing
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oh man it's just sad bro that gooning dude they those guys want to get so close to the screen
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dude they want to be right there it's not enough we used to masturbate like in
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like almost what is considered now kind of archaic way pages yes a 2d image yeah like kids don't know
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what that's like to that's like jerking off to a shadow at this point you know what i mean
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yeah the only volume was you had to quietly turn the page remember that yeah sometimes you would
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like move it around and make it dance make it seem like she's really there yeah now they're
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like apple vision pro they're like load me up they're loading up different chicks they're having
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threesome yeah yeah oh they're having eight some they're having a freaking other like there's
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they have one where an octopus will jerk you off and if you guess the army's gonna do it with
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like you win more coins or whatever i'm like what is it that'd be cool if there was an orgy with
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Like, everyone's wearing an Apple Vision Pro, but it's just, like, 12 people naked in a room.
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And they're like, the environment's better in this world.
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Why would I fuck in my living room like some fucking, like, some senior citizen when I could fuck on the Challenger, but you only have 40 seconds to fuck?
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You have to do it under the clock or you blow up.
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It's free, but then you have to pay for the tokens.
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The game is free, but yeah, you get different coins too.
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I know there's like the – there's that one, I know, virtual reality sex thing where they're having sex on like famous like sad times that happen.
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Palantir's doing one where you can just do it right in the Gaza rubble.
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It's sort of like Allbirds, the shoe company, went AI.
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that's like crocs getting into like biotech you know and that's just allowed dude that's so funny
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bro imagine palantir actually they would come out with something like that dude that soulless group
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um yeah but there's that's where it's going to get to it's like oh well oh sorry i would love to
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work out today but i'm like i'm banging a couple chicks on the trail of tears later this afternoon
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And like, I'm meeting up with a couple of friends and we have, we're meeting up in an
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opioid crisis basement from like 2022, you know, it's just going to get weirder and weirder.
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Why does it have to be like busting to sad stuff?
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It's just, it's a funny, those are the only levels.
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Like a meadow, like a meadow from like, um, the hills that like, uh, like the sound of
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bring up a stockholm meadow please what is it like there oh that's nice oh god look at that
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it's like a xp screensaver right there and where yeah that is remember that when the nicest thing
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your house was your screensaver oh yeah but you looked out of your real windows and it was just
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like a bunch of like it was like two black dudes fighting like a like a crow in baltimore or
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whatever what if that was the screensaver they sent to the hood like you couldn't even have the
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yeah that's just the deal yeah maybe the patch will let you do nice places but until then we're
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beta testing the terrible places right in the beginning it's like virtual reality sex thing
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yeah okay but in the beginning you only get to like like do like you can have orgies and meet
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ups you're allowed to have like six or seven friends but you can't have like 40 friends join
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you right then you have to pay that's like a paid tier yes and you get like you unlock better places
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to be able to kind of basically jerk off in hypothetically
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that you would never be able to go to because...
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Like football's going on, there's peanuts and popcorn, and he can still, like if there
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was like a talent scout for adult films, it'd be like, that guy, he's going to do it on
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Most people can't with like a few people watching.
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Imagine, I would have dreams where I'd imagine like it was like a big thing and you had to
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jerk off a mountain or whatever, like a village couldn't eat or whatever, and everybody's
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i guess he jumped out of a rocket or something i mean what was he even doing yeah and then um
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yeah what would some of the yeah what would some of the highest tiers be like okay and you can't
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really tell your parents unless they're like also unless they play the game then they already know
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right then they see you like because your gamer tag is on there yes and your dad sees that and
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you go you play too yeah that's that's sad dude yeah and when the power goes out of your place
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And both you and your dad, you just hear each other like, dang, God.
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Because both of y'all just got shut down and you're freaking from the goona sphere or whatever.
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What did, bring up, let's, I want to learn more about gooning.
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These young kids, you know, they have all these terms and then I learned about it way too late.
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I'm not, I think it's just like, you're into something.
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My perplexity must think I am the fucking dumbest guy in the world, dude
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We ask the most basic shit because we don't know it
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This is the most Theo thing, though, ever.
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Just the most robust infrastructure for the silliest thing.
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Dude, they need to do a remake of Goonies, but it's Goon.
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Bro, you telling me and they all have to get to one magic spot and they all jerk off in like a cup from like a senior citizen from like 2,000 years ago.
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i just picture you in a suit at paramount pitching this like you're saying all the same things
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and you pitch it in a suit what does it say quick definition modern sexual meaning in current
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internet slang gooning is a form of marathon masturbation and porn consumption where someone
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stays aroused for a long time so it's basically like trying to um keep the party going you and
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also i think it's trying to keep your wiener up so it's trying there's like a level of like you
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know what they get the fish thing when they try to get the dolphin like stay on its tail for a
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little while so gooning is the human equivalent of a dolphin staying on the water yeah when they
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yes you have to make that sound when you're good mine sounds like a fucking broke down gay dude
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it's pretty good yours is like half and half human half dolphin like the blade
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yeah mine sounds like an asian car that won't start dude just
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so that's gooning pretty much huh um let's get a little more sorry is it like edging didn't
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wasn't that a thing before well someone stays aroused for a long time often hours edging
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themselves into a trance like zoned out state rather than just quickly getting off that's crazy
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bro so i didn't know that i thought it was just i mean i guess i mean i knew that it was somebody
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like that was really locked in on seeing their their penis and wanting to come or just being
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involved with pornographia you know or porno or whatever i knew it was a lot of that but i didn't
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know that this exists well just the levels they're going to for it um solo means non-partner porn
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driven often multiple tabs niche content things on loop what are you fucking doing are you like
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you have a loop machine you're playing this thing you're like
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people would just play the whole thing but I started chopping it up
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Long before it had anything to do with porn,
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goon meant things like fool, thug, or a henchman.
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The history roughly looks like older English roots,
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yeah i'm not just jerking off or whatever somewhere but it's just sad that like
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this is kind of like our military now it's like there's enough of them doing it now where it's
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like they have like meetups and they have like you know they have almost like those dance-a-thons
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or whatever where it's like like it's like uh what is it fonzie like a sock hop or something
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yeah it's like we're raising money for uh testicular cancer whatever and how many kids
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Is there, in the, like, what's it called if people goon together?
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That actually sounds like good for the community.
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When people say goon together, it's typically referred to as a group gooning or participating in a goon session.
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Communal gooning, often organized via online communities like Discord, Reddit, and adult platforms.
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huh oh group sessions okay i don't this must be i think this is a younger person's thing too
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like a teenage or adult i mean like or college age i don't really i don't think i have the time
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to devote to that yeah it seems like a lot of time i wonder if we're just out of touch like
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do you think parents are like i don't understand your goon he's like you don't get me dad yeah
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my friends are doing it like we're just too old richard he's in there gooning right now
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it's like that that uh weed commercial like where did you learn to goon i learned it from
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watching you yeah oh that shit hit me dude i didn't even have a kid i was if i was a kid
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i was a kid and i just felt all the pain of it like god oh man that's wild dude anyway
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bro good to see you dude same man thank you for having me and i don't know if i told you
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officially but thank you for having me on tour with you with those dates oh that was so fun to
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do i'd never done something like that so like i've been doing stand-up a long time but i haven't
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played venues like that before where'd we play in seattle now no no we did the midwest run so we
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did iowa we did minnesota we did north dakota south dakota oh yeah but i've just never played
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venues that large before so i mean the largest i've done before i came out with you is 7 000 at
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the dolby 7 000 people and then we did some of these were like 18 000 i just wanted to do that
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for me just like what is that like it's like big wave surfing you know yeah for real it's scary man
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And because I met up with you guys in Iowa, I think at first, like tour bus, there's the venue and all that.
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And then you look at the seats in the daytime and it's like that scene in Interstellar where they see that giant wave.
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You're like, oh, man, these are going to be filled with people.
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But then you do one and you're like, I know what this is.
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It's like, I mean, definitely navigating some of that is different.
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A lot of times it's tough to get a lot of headliners to come out on the road
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Because a lot of them are working different weekends or something like that
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I know that was an off weekend for you, so thanks for coming out
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Yeah, dude, were we at the place where that place in North Dakota
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Was I think the biggest building I'd ever been in
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And then there was a whole other inside where they had like a basketball court
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Yeah, we were playing basketball before the show behind a curtain.
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The place was divided in half, and even with it divided in half, it was huge.
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And it was like, yeah, they sell animals in here.
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They had a whole shirt, like, churn and yearn or whatever.
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It was like kind of an Amish thing, and then, like, defeating, like, sexual sin or whatever.
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But do you remember, I don't know if you told the story, my favorite, there's like two moments from the tour that I like were my favorite.
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So what's cool about you is like you want to do stuff in the town.
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Back in the day, I would tour with Bobby and he just, he's like a vampire.
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He just closes and he's in the darkness until it's time for the show.
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I think he does Xbox or PlayStation until the show.
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So we get lunch before the shows, and we park on the outskirts.
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And then, so right before this even happened, we're going to walk to the sandwich shop because, you know, like, oh, it's rated pretty high on Yelp.
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So we're in the middle of nowhere, pretty much.
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that unbelievable so nice like a spielberg movie or something small town usa we're just walking
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down the thoroughfare and it's blowing like you're not supposed to be there it's so weird to
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these people they're like then there's this guy this heavyset guy you know he's like what the what
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the fuck fio von oh man can i get a picture and then he came up but we were kind of running late
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and he's like you're like sure thing man just uh we're running a little late if you can like you
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know keep up with us and we'll get we'll get that selfie he's like you got it and then it was really
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So he like, he gets up to you and the wind just blows his hat off.
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Right when he got, right when he got up to you, he's like, oh, oh.
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Like, it was like, that's one of the reasons why we were trying to get like, it was like,
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dude, we're going to be late where we're going.
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We would have been on time, but the wind was like, it was uphill when you were just flat.
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And it was beautiful day, insane winds, cloud seeding, Israel, go on.
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He was probably in zone two trying to catch it.
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Yeah, it blew in probably 60 feet, which is far on a windy day.
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And it kind of went around the edge of a truck.
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he goes he gets it we're still walking and my feeling started getting hurt a little bit at
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this point because it's like dude look that hat's gonna be here all the time that's what we were
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thinking like like yo how often are you in clear lake this guy's going he's a bigger fan of this
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hat that's what it was than he is of you right and he kept kind of he's like just wait just wait
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and we're kind of waiting but getting hit by the wind and like okay go on the third time so it
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happens three times he catches he finally catches up with us but it was just so funny like that whole
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day we were just laughing about the wind blowing that guy's hat and then like how absurd it was
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like one of those moments you're like this cannot be real right like it was just oh hold on you know
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it was a cartoon it was literally like a looney tune and we'd have to sit there at one point we
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sat on a bench for like a little bit and waiting for him to go get his hat again we're like
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because the hat like he just i don't know i think he also wore the lightest hats it's like dude
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it was like paper mache it was made out of kleenex and it would just blow off
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it was made out of clinic and he just sharpied New York on it
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where they played their last show dude before that plane crash
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And I wish we, honestly, kind of wish we weren't even talking about it because I don't want other people to know how great it is.
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But every yard there, everything, it was just kind of perfect.
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And then I forgot what city this was in, but after the shows, you do meet and greet sometimes.
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And so you're meeting your fans and then talking to them and all that.
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And then there's this girl in a wheelchair, very sweet.
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And then you go, you know, if you don't mind me asking, like, may I ask what happened?
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and then yeah how'd you get all wheeled out that's my big question because we don't know
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right we gotta know and then she's like oh yeah yeah i uh you know it's a car accident my car
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spun around and i got flung out of the car and then and then you go now now what kind of car was
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it you know i just like like no other person on earth would drill down on what type of car it was
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and then she's like oh i think i think it was like a oldsmobile or something and then you're
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like now is that a nice vehicle i don't really oh shit i'd like to try to add context just so i know
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i know it's like so you though you know my imagination work if i don't know yeah you
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wanted to paint the story you know yeah and different cars i could see your body leaving
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out of it a different way like that's a good point if it's like a heavy older model car you
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kind of probably slip out the window side window it was one of these new cars these little bouncing
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baby buggies or whatever he'd fucking fly right out of the front of that bitch yeah just on a
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left turn even yeah yeah just like oh yeah just a windy day in clear lake a recall are you aware
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too yeah and one thing i noticed too about touring with you because i mean we've been friends and i
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see you at the clubs all the time but then hanging out with you outside of the clubs is a different
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thing because everyone is kind of famous at the club because those are comedy nerds and everyone
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knows someone yeah but then you're like famous famous and i just hadn't experienced that firsthand
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because i would see you at the store or i see at the improv you know so we were it would happen
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everywhere like that sandwich shop and then i remember dq especially we're at the dairy queen
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place i wanted to get like a blizzard oh yeah and then you're like i'll come because we saw
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happened to do these shows. Dude, you guys went
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in a helicopter, didn't you? I didn't because I'm
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I got a deal out of those people, so I was like,
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I'm trying to think who else. Yeah, Lee Kimbrell and
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yeah there we are dude i always i mean it was cool it was definitely cool and impressive but
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i thought it would be bigger there's a lot of like kind of there's like you park you walk up
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they do a good job of making it so you can't see it till you get there yeah yeah there is kind of
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the big reveal they have all the flags along the side of different countries which i don't even know
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why they have that and then the craziest part about mount rushmore is there's another side to
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it where they were they're making the face of a native american right oh that's right i think
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originally it was public and then it got um kind of privatized and there was a man who was trying
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to do it with his sons just with the hammer by himself and an exacto knife and a sonic hair
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do you think that's how they sold it to them like all right we're gonna do the present and
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then we'll get to the like oh we ran out of dynamite yeah they just bait and switched them
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you're like you mean the stuff you you used to blow up all of our villages and lives in history
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you didn't have just a little left over blew it all ironically yeah um dude this is so great while
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while they're while they're uh checking it out thank you guys for checking um it's fun to see
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this pitch because i just sounds that you just forget like i like you just go through so many
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places sometimes and it's almost like it bums you out in a way because you i think it bums
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anybody out when you're traveling or anything you're doing it's like you can only hold on to
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it so much right and then life gets going and life's so busy now for everybody the way we
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interact and the way there's like always entertainment always something to keep us
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like there's always like a a seal with a ball on its nose hypothetically you know and it's
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we forget sometimes just like the moments that we've had i'm trying to be better about taking
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pictures we have a phone in our pocket all times and i forget to you know i'll be at the store
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there'll be some great moments or i'll be on tour with you and i gotta capture these moments or you
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you kind of forget about them it's nice to go through your phone go through your instagram
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be like oh that was a fun time oh yeah going through the best yeah i think this is it right
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yeah the crazy horse memorial is a mountain monument under construction on privately held
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land in the black hills in custer county south dakota so that's a different mountain or whatever
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right it's not on the same right there um henry standing bear um a lakota chief and well-known
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statesman and elder in the Native American community
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recruited and commissioned Polish-American sculptor
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Henry Standing Bear wrote to the Polish-American sculptor
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my fellow chiefs and I would like the white man to know
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like that tweet out there. That's like tweeting
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green of like the lakota nation um in june 3rd 1948 uh zielkowski detonated the first blast on
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the mountain and the memorial was dedicated to the native american people work continues slowly
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over the next few decades since zielkowski refused to accept government grants ah so he probably
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didn't want to accept them i'm assuming because it was like this is the government trying to put
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money into pay like just to make it look a little bit better for what they did instead as he stated
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on a 1961 guest appearance on a tv show to tell the truth he raised money for the project by
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charging 75 cents admission to the monument work area the world celebrated 75th anniversary in
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2023 crazy horse's left hand was finished by 2024 um i wonder when it'll be done i don't know well
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note here that uh the land is run by the u.s forest service and they were just defunded so
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it's probably gonna i think that affects how long it takes shit well i've got the hand though
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it's kind of nice yeah i mean it's like at this point i would pivot yeah to what
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i hate to say that but but you have the hand yeah right do they have an updated what it looks like
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here we go it looks like bill maher a little maybe that's the pivot yeah that's it
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Oh, I must have had a different window open on my browser.
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Well, I mean, we've blasted a lot of the mountain.
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Yeah, maybe you go like Bill Maher with a Native American hand.
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Or you just open up a ring shop and chisel out the inside of the hand.
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Somebody had a great name for a ring shop, dude.
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And every day I think about what it was and I can't remember what it was.
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he'll come back to you yeah yeah thank you dude of course um but yeah the crazy horse memorial
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started in 1948 still not finished oh there's a good video about it right there huh he's ripped
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look at that the horse and him are ripped that's pretty wild it's kind of centaur-ish a little
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though the art yeah dude sometimes when you look at stuff that's like going on in the world today
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like it's kind of crazy like you kind of look at things like you're like oh where there's like
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people being abused taking advantage of here right like there's a genocide here there's this
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this like uh senseless like propaganda ridden bombing and attacking over here right but then
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you look at also like that people like with that that that that happened in native americans too
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it's just like it's kind of like um a tale as old as time which is so sad i know you think like
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yeah who opens for spade right now matt matt kershon no i love that guy though oh patrick
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king and he has this joke it's like he goes well at one time there was like um joseph mary cain
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and abel you know and then cain killed abel did cain kill abel perplexity load of
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perplexity who killed it's like a it's like the religious clue the board game that one always has
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it um but he goes at one point in history 25 of the population were murderers which is just it's
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For me, that was always, like, one of the best jokes, dude.
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He's like, there were four people, and they couldn't figure it out, and one of them killed one of the other ones.
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It's like, sometimes you want to get, like, that's one part where I, like, I'll get agitated about things.
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But then I'm like, but, you know, I don't know.
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I'm trying to make the best of what's in front of you and do what you can do.
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And, but it's almost, I mean, I realized this later in life that a lot of life is like Sim
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It'll never be perfect, but you can get it as close to optimal as you can, but nothing
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You do something, then drug abuse goes up, you know, then you do this other thing, then
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the wait for the bathroom and the rollercoaster line goes up, you know, just life is Sim
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City and there's not a perfect system, but like we're all striving to get there.
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And that's kind of hard to come to terms with when you're young.
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You just think everything should be candy pop rate or, you know, you know, gumdrops and lollipops.
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But it's so hard to maximize utility for everyone because some something's got to give eventually.
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But we can do our best, you know, and it's nice that we have that drive to do so as humans.
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Yeah, maybe we'll enter a new phase, too, where we realize like, oh, all this capitalism, all that bull.
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You would think that, like, I kind of thought we were over, like, some of the colonialism shit.
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Well, even just, like, untethered capitalism, we're seeing the cracks in it right now.
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We're, like, late-stage capitalism right now, which is interesting.
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You have to be, now all our products are just faces.
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yeah like somebody the other day offered to come
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was like going door to door like we'll come and spray your bugs
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people who don't know if they have them and I'm like they're just
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quiet be quiet and they're like oh do you hear that
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Like, oh, that's a fucking wasp from Tijuana or something, you know?
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If they made it all the way up here, they're angry.
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And the guy's like, we have to come and just spray tequila in your yard.
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Oh, they know if they're getting the bunk shit.
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or as he's setting up doing CPR he sets up a little
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like what tier coverage do you want yeah all right then the paddles are in this tent yeah like how
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do you want to yeah yeah do you want the full paddles you just want to breathe in your and
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you just want the hand you want the hopeful hand right breathe breathe is extra yeah we don't we
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don't you know do you want one paddle or two we give you like half a zap yeah but if you want the
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full zap it'll cost you and what's the voltage it's a tiered program yeah this is tiered man
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we'll give you a trial zap that's just a taste just give your heart a taste yeah like oh it like
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that i would upgrade seems like your heart wants that hey the heart wants what the heart wants you
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know and that's what his merch said on it i'm like that's it's just like man it's just gotten
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to be a crazy world dude um dude you're so funny man you're one of the funniest guys well the fact
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ever existed dude i mean i don't know about that but you dude you are you're the guy that everybody
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goes to see that's kind of weird i wonder if that feels does that feel like pressure because that's
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a real thing. People will be like, maybe at the
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niche. But still, people will be like, Ophaheem's on, right?
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And you'll go watch, because the rest of us are kind of
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Maybe that's a detriment. I remember when I was a young
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i had a new joke that i won i was just i'm always itching to like throw out a new idea and when
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you're young you don't really know how to navigate that as well so but i've just always been wired
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that way i just love new material so it's kind of nice that now it's caught up with me and it's
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it's an asset now where i know how to write a little faster but yeah i've just always been that
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way i just like new ideas do you think like a lot of your ideas because you all like i'll say
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something to you like man i'm not feeling well and you're like what do you make it sound like
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what if you were like I have some superpower like I go into some fugue state when you mentioned
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something and I go and the papers start turning what if I'm perplexity I should I should mention
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the guys I've I've been perplexity the whole time dude you're like yeah I'm not feeling like dude
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what if you weren't feeling well but like um there was like a bunch of bad guys chasing you
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but you have to not feel well and still get away from them you know that's kind of that's kind of
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horrible example. No, but you capture the energy and I guess I'm kind of reserved generally if I
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don't know you, but like when something tickles me or I feel like I have a good idea or like we
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have a rapport, I've known you forever and we're just having fun and there's, I just love a good
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idea. So I get excited and then I'm like doing it and I don't even know that I'm doing it.
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You know what I mean? Like, you know, that's what it seems like. It seems like this thing,
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it's almost like when you pour a beer and it's somebody like pours it too fast and it's just
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going to come out of the glass no matter what, right? That's how it seems like with you whenever
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there's like some like it's like it's almost like watching like an animal get excited kind of it's
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like this what about what about this yeah yeah and then it's like you try to slot it in and you
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always slot it in like the best places and then you're and you're not afraid to do act outs on
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stage either like you are not like i mean i know for a while you were doing um lance can't stop oh
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yeah can't stop us yeah dance like the dancing shit was fucking crazy bro the the the rat tail
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all that shit was great dude i had this weave i did the mothership maybe like two years ago but
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i don't do it as much anymore what's funny is i booked this i did a video game adam ray's doing
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it now though not not lance he's doing a different thing oh i'm joking i thought would it be great if
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now he's doing lance can't stop he's doing dr phil as lance look hey what's your name are you are
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you two dating check out these dance moves dude that's so great but yeah bro just your your ability
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I just love dancing who was funding it you mean Hezbollah
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we're keeping the wasps they want to stay and party
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I downloaded Sony Vegas and I'm just like putting all these
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I think it's like industrial light and magic like
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And then I would go to a cubicle and do engineering
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I would just like close the door turn on Michael Jackson
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Just dance in my room I would dance in front of a mirror
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and there was a currency to that when i was a kid like to be the best dancer at school
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you'd have school dances and then everyone knew who the good dances were and then you'd kind of
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like battle and there was social currency to dancing i'm sure there still is that's a good
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point but there was a lot of clout to that it was like oh yeah the dancer it's like being the
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fastest kid at school remember how that was such a thing like the hottest girl would be with the
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fastest kid in school oh shit yeah like oh shit damien fast right and then he loses one race and
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he's like yeah it's not working out yeah or damien gets diabetes or whatever and he can't run as much
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that's gonna affect his his 50 time right yeah the sugar got him coming up short so i was just
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into dance so i guess that's my foundation so i'm comfortable moving my body yeah and then when i
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got into stand-up when i was like 18 and when i'm on stage like if i have the idea i just i just do
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it i don't even think about it i don't have a fear of moving wow that's crazy and also it's an
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extension of the idea if i have a bit and i'm in it i don't even know that i'm doing it honestly
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right it's second nature dude that's pretty great because it kind of gives you two instruments it
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gives you the verbal instrument and then it gives you this whole other instrument i do notice if i
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do yoga a good bit um and the more that i do it the more my body shows up in certain bits and it's
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like sometimes your brain will be like oh you can do this because you've been flexible you've been
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keeping active like your shit's like you're keeping your like your blood up your vibes up
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do this you know i'm saying and you're like oh that fits and it like it is interesting when uh
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you can, your ideas can use your whole instrument for sure.
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And then you realize how much of comedy is nonverbal.
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Even it's really cool to have a great joke and people are laughing and then you
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Then it feels like, Oh, I have new colors to, to paint with, with comedy.
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Yeah, dude, that's, I mean, that's, I don't know it as well.
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And there's moments like there's some moments in my comedy where I'll,
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I feel that way I've seen it um I'm trying to think this older bit you used to do the the
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meeting Brad Pitt oh yeah you would do it with that I mean you still do you still do it there
00:49:29.240
are still act out the thing but I'll be like I don't get into like I don't know you get into
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this space where it's like yeah you're just this kind of thing that's kind of happening um I would
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love that as an intro like this next guy is he's a he's kind of a thing that's happening
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for one of your specials you have to do somebody comes out
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you're just like the janitor that comes at night and cleans up
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bro we have two movie ideas this pod we got the goonies idea and then we got this
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that's so great that's awesome yeah dude um yeah man do you feel like uh because you've had i mean
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like yeah i think if people picked out like some of their favorite comedians especially at the
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comedy store because that's really kind of your home base would you say yeah yeah because i'm an
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la comic and that's sort of like the place to be there's three showrooms i like working out there
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too yeah yeah oh it really is there's no better if you can go to one spot in a night yeah and
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especially once you're allowed to park in the back oh it's the best oh that changes everything
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parking it's like i got in the stand-up just for the parking on sunset strip yeah um how you always
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hear like people say comedy in la has changed la is like the the scene is dead the scene is
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different right maybe not dead i think you just hear different yeah um how have you seen it change
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like probably since covid into now and like what do you think of like just where things are
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uh i mean we were in the heyday of the comedy storm we didn't even know it before
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covid happened you know like rogan was there um yeah it was just juggernaut after juggernaut
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these lineups were insane tom segura yeah i mean even on a tuesday cummings eliza schlesinger
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I mean and that was it that was just like kind of people that were just there you and then you have
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but I was I was Smith I was like middle of the path like these guys are fucking like Titans I
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was just kind of it was kind of cool just to share that space I'm still an unknown but
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comedically and artistically it's cool to be in the mix like Louis drops in or Burr and then I
00:51:54.620
go up after him that's the thrill of the store that like at the end of the day it still is it's
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like being good at something like a really good saxophone player it's like jazz you'll see somebody
00:52:05.820
who's just like huge and then you get to take the stage and you're there for a reason and you have
00:52:12.260
to like survive you have to learn how to survive when you're younger but then you get to hold your
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own and that's cool because like audience members get to be hip to you they're like i came for burr
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but then i discover these other comics that guy and that happens now at the store too there's like
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young guys who are super funny yeah and then they come because like they come to see you and then
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and they get to see everybody else on the lineup.
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So we were in the heyday back then, COVID happened,
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people go to Austin, some people go to New York,
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some people just go to Vegas or Nashville even, you know?
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it's pared down a bit, but it's still an amazing club
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because you always hear like people denouncing it kind of,
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not denouncing, that's not a term, but you hear like-
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But it's also every time something's over, whatever that is, there's always something new that's starting too.
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So what do you see that's kind of the new things?
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Because I'm sure for a lot of guys that couldn't get stage time, it was probably a hectic time for them.
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Guys and girls that couldn't get stage time.
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It's like, yeah, you have all these guys who are able to sell tickets and they get all the top eight spots or whatever.
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And I'm sure that was kind of like a clog in the system.
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But I think there's a life cycle for everything.
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And that's awesome because they're getting popular.
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And then that just naturally clears up stage time
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so-and-so's on the road, like Segura, whatever.
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so now now these guys get to get those reps in yeah and then they get really good and then they
00:54:02.520
blast off so there's this natural order of things so when everybody went to like austin and all that
00:54:08.240
it just kind of cleared space for the next tier and now they're getting really good and stuff
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and then hopefully they will flourish yeah i'm sure yeah yeah it's just like yeah i think there's
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always something new that's starting so i guess yeah that's what i was kind of wondering since i
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i said because i moved away i was wondering like yeah what what kind of like do you feel like
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Because digital is the most important place to be.
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So it's kind of cool how it's democratized comedy.
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Now you can be a funny kid in Clear Lake, Iowa or anywhere and just talking to camera.
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And you have just as much of a shot as like me at the comedy store or some other person at the mothership.
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So it's really even the playing field, which is kind of cool.
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who's one of your favorite people that you've seen
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sometimes we'll get to see like celebrities or something will come in there
00:56:45.080
at the comedy store and then the person who was
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clear it with him, but I go, I don't want him to say
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them. I'm getting their life force. And I'm like,
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It might have been the night you were there, too.
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we're just talking and all these other comedians come
00:57:42.560
and we ended up keeping it in but it was so surreal
00:57:44.600
that was probably one of the bigger ones Tarantino
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was that when they were trying to cast for I'm dying up here
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and then something like that happens and they end up
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he and I were just texting the other day he's doing real well
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he's fucking all up what a life some people
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I'm the only person who calls him Dre, other than his mom, maybe.
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I call him Dr. Dre, just because I think he's a doctor of basketball.
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I mean, John Mayer, when I would see him, that was always interesting, because I've
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always had such an esteem for his word, the way he does words.
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roast battle a lot. Yeah. And he'd be like him and Jeff Ross
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Yeah. It was late at night. This is when I first
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Maybe they tied one on. I think they'd been like
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So he's eating chicken fingers and it's his back.
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Sometimes they'll sit a blind guy to save money.
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they'll sit a blind guy by the side of the stage just
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sometimes they do that shit I'm like point him towards
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me out fuck he's just sitting over here like a
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and so, but it was like the first time I was in it
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I was like, who the, yeah I couldn't figure out
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rvj you know i thought it was just somebody who's dumb who was trying to talk about a politician or
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whatever and then they're like no reginald val johnson dude the cop from family matters his
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grandson is here and i was like fuck i'm gonna fuck it and i remember pacing backstage being so
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just like i just couldn't handle that there was like somebody who like knew somebody from tv that
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was in the fucking crowd and i fucking blew it you go oh no oh i bombed dude my favorite moment
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that ever happened though one of anyway spade telling me that he thought something was really
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funny one time was awesome um but one time damon wayans was there oh wow and senior yeah from in
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living color and i grew up listening here man oh just like he has this one like it's a laugh sound
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that he makes it's like only he makes it and it's not even a laugh it's just like a oh oh oh something
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like that dude it sounds like a fucking a bird that's like semi-interested right like a beautiful
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bird that's semi-interested but um during my set i heard him make that laugh that i had i'd heard
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him use as a character from when i was a kid and bro it was just so it was crazy to me like at one
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thing i said yeah he laughed at he made that sound at it and that was enough it's such validation
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yeah because we grew up with these guys and they were everything to us even just being on a show
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with spade or just talking to spade that was my era of snl spade sandler farley that's why i got
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into stand-up comedy for real i love that show so much snl everyone could make it on social media
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now everything's fractured so much but back in the day if you wanted to do anything in comedy
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you had to touch snl yeah so that was everything that was tiktok that was instagram that was
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anything comedy was snl that was mount rushmore and i go i want to do this i want to work in the
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space how do you get on snl i fired up my modem yeah and i i unspooled it like fucking dynamite
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to plug into the wall you know it was a controlled demolition to get on the internet
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and you applied to boeing right you're like i'll show them well pretty much though because
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i researched i go how do people get on snl and i saw that they came from one of two camps they
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came from improv comedy so second city UCB groundlings you know yes and in creating these
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scenes or they were stand-up comedians like kevin nealon uh sandler schneider uh spade
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eddie murphy they're all stand-ups so then i researched all the improv schools like UCB and
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second city i'm some kid in seattle i'm like what are these schools okay they're all in la new york
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chicago i'm not there i can't do that you have to pay money to do it my parents already don't want
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I remember being a little kid, sitting cross-legged, watching the TV, and thinking, Spade lived in a box.
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And now he's writing down notes before going on stage and then bringing me up in the OR, and it's not lost on me.
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It's hard to, like, it's such a good reminder to think about, yeah, like, just also that all the humor that's come before you,
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all the or whatever line of work you're in all the things that have come before you like
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like whether you're a mechanic you're using like a new type of like ranch or some sort of new
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piece of equipment or something like people were mechanics for years doing that and got to that
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place or like some machine that makes your job easier some new way of doing it or like
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i don't know yeah just you forget that like all these people have gone up over time on stage to
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try and say something or whatever to try and get somebody to feel something or you or them to feel
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something or you to feel something yeah i don't know if any of that makes sense now that you're
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all part of this timeline you're all part of this and they happen to be a generation or so above and
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then you don't know at the time when you're a kid but then you do the same thing for long enough
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and then you become a part of that fabric and they were just people like you were at the beginning
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but at a different phase of their uh becoming a butterfly or whatever it is and what's mind
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blowing too is these guys that i just thought were titans of comedy and could do no wrong and
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were blowing my mind to learn as you get older that they were afraid of being fired week to week
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on SNL to hear Spade talk about that or or Norm would talk about oh yeah we thought we're gonna
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get or even Sandler they thought about firing Sandler you go what yeah or Chris Farley I mean
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yeah yeah just that any of them sat in that place like that they were having self-doubt like that
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during what I thought was just the pinnacle and peak of comedy I thought they were crushing it
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so hard and they were worried. That's mind-blowing. And then almost validating for the feelings you
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have, because I have that sometimes. And I go, oh, that's just a human experience. Sometimes you
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think that they're celebrities and everything's gravy because that's the packaging. That's what
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you portray. That gets jobs. But then everyone is having a human experience inside of it. And
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it makes you feel less alone. Like, oh, okay. Even Spade and Sandler felt what I'm feeling right now.
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right even they were taking a breath like what do i do next or what's going to happen now
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yeah you know am i going to get fired was that good i hope people will like it
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yeah same exact three things it's like yeah those are questions i've asked myself since i've really
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joined the workforce at 14 really what was your first job um my first job i saw hamsters my but
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But my adult first job was working in Italian pizza.
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And it's supposed to serve for blackjacks, but people would get drunk in there and just
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start yelling blowjobs at us kids who were working the counter, right?
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And we'd make up fake orders for pizza deliveries like Danny Glover wants a pizza
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because our guy who delivered was a born-again Christian.
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So we'd make up like Danny Glover wants a pizza out on an old military road.
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So he'd go deliver that bitch while he was gone.
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There's no way for him to fucking connect to this while he's gone.
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We would pour beer, deep fry it, fucking eat it.
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And he'd come back and be like, couldn't find the address, you know?
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out when we yeah air it and if you black it out and if you if you if you do black it out
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and uh want to put a name over it you could put um ali wong
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who else we got rick ingram andrew santino uh you and me right there bro dude is there anything
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like kind of scary or funny or like just all of it whenever like you get to bring you like
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like when you're set over it's kind of like a relief moment and then you get to bring somebody
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else up it's like it's like getting out of the pool and drying off and knowing you peed in it
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uh-huh you know well that's a skill you have to learn because not a lot of places do tag team like
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this so when you first when you get past there you have to get used to it because most shows
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have an emcee and you do your time and the emcee comes up and then brings up the next person this
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is all you go up bring somebody else up they bring the next person up so you have to get in that mode
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of like my set's over now i've got to turn into host mode it's like agent smith like all right
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this next guy you know you do you do your last joke and you go how's everybody doing fantastic
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the show keeps getting better and you don't know how to do that when you're young yeah but then
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you've been there so long now you finish your set you're like all right this next guy's hilarious
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you're gonna love him for he-man war and then it's just very cool to go up after each other yeah
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yeah dude it is magic and just get to be in a place where you see other people and stuff like
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that you know where you see a lot of people and see what's going on yeah it was like a place to
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be too at night it was like it was like okay i don't need to be at a nightclub i never knew any
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of the nightclubs that were popping or any of that stuff yeah because i just didn't know it
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was like i know that that's where i'll be and you know it's so weird i know like the nightclub scene
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i never went and it's weird because i dance so people think like you must go to nightclubs all
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the time like i don't it's so weird being good at dancing and then hating going to a nightclub
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i have a private relationship with dance i want to i want to dance in my room i don't want to go
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Yeah while some trans male man's over there
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Trying to fucking drop something in your drink
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You know he's like oh I got an overnight for you
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It took me a while to realize what song you were singing
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I remember like a little bit of all of them though
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The world premiere of Black or White sitting down in front of the TV.
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Michael Jackson biopic Michael first reactions.
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Did we do better than it at the movie theater this week?
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Do you think it's weird to put that out there to people?
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Or is that kind of, like, put out, like, this is how much we did for the week or whatever?
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I think just showing what it is and being, like, blessed, like...
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I mean, it is really cool that the fans showed up like that.
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I read it was pretty good for an independent, like...
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Per screen, it was fourth highest of all movies last weekend.
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Michael Jackson's black and white music video premiered November 14th, 1991 as a massive global event.
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Directed by John Landis, the 11-minute short film aired simultaneously in 27 to 69 countries with an estimated 500 million viewers.
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yeah you knew Michael like you couldn't speak the language
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and you'll see, like, European 35-year-old men fainting.
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He went with his bro, like, I would have to get a new job or something.
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These are like 40-year-old, they have a family.
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Like, imagine paying all this money to go see Michael Jackson
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and he's standing like a statue and you wake up in the hospital.
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i saw him remove his glasses and that's all i remember well he he did all his songs and he
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glided i miss it yeah you miss it again every time he's like i swear i won't faint this time
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yeah he promises his whole family won't faint he wears something like like a neck brace yeah
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something just to keep his blood like in the like clock record yeah he tapes his eyes open he's like
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He has like three mortgages to pay for these Michael Jackson tickets
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And that was one thing at school that all the kids could do
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Kids weren't trying to like out Michael sing each other
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my shit was a little bit more like the Pluto
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my shit had a limp and had a little bit of swag in it
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just so in case I'm flirting with one or whatever
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Any friends I bet when you were a kid dude
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I don't eat breakfast and I'm just like talking to myself
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And I'm like, what if, what if I said to Cheerios I'm eating?
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Do you notice, so your imagination must be pretty active.
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Do you notice there's things that kind of dim it kind of?
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Or do you notice, have you ever noticed certain times in your life or like kind of periods
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like that you've gone through or even like things you've like, or activities, something
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you've engaged in every time when you're like, that, I noticed that that takes away, like
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it kind of dims like my brain's ability or medication even.
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So I have to have, because I think at the end of the day, I am an introvert, even though
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So it's kind of weird if you're at a party and they're like, you're a stand up.
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And I don't, I'm not really talking or anything.
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But in my mind, I'm like, I don't, I don't know you, you know, it's just, I, maybe some
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people have a stereotype of what a standup comedian is where they're at a party and they're
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you know i just kind of lay in the cut because i don't know anybody yeah and i'll latch on to
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whoever i know but i'm not like a social butterfly and i'll observe and all that but
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i can't have real fun unless i i'm accustomed to you and i know you and we have history yeah
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then my creativity can think can come out um so i've just noticed that yeah so it's kind of like
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energy-based even doing rogan like rogan's so awesome he's afforded me a career like you
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career for me so many of our peers owe so much to him like i'm able to tour and like you make a
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living and stuff and it's awesome but i i i just i don't know him as well as i know you and that
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show is so big and stuff and i feel like i can't be as me as as i can with you you know what i
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mean because he's also an elder he's uh he's a few generations above me in stand-up so i feel
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like i can't be as silly as maybe but then you're a silly guy too well yeah and i mean just probably
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he's probably only one generation ahead of us and maybe that yeah but he likes information and
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he's like wants to figure things out yeah joe's like a learner yeah you know like the rest of us
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are out here the rest of us are most of the time out here kind of gooning around what about south
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american wasps yeah what's your take on that but joe's like a he's generally like a curious dude
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like he's like super cure and he really is and it's guy he remembers everything that's got to
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be almost i wonder if that's almost hectic sometimes to retain all that information i'm
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so envious of guys like like rogan who knows so much or dave smith or tim dillon they're so
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well read and worldly too and i'm like it'd be funny if some guy fainted under michael jackson
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it's just i feel so dumb but it's just different you know we need joe to like you need somebody
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that was just going to interview everybody like i'm going to talk to every single person i'm not
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going to have too much say so in it or anything you know um i always think he's done a pretty
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good job of staying unbiased about stuff like and then sometimes he steps in when he feels like
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you know he tries to like like we all do like say this is really how i feel about something
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um i was on a show a couple weeks ago and people were giving him a hard time online
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about him like not being supportive like about antidepressants or something or something
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and um and people take a clip and make it like a big deal but i didn't feel that way at all like
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in our conversation you know yeah so sometimes it's so weird the things that people clip i think
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it's so big and it's so singular that people like adding their spin to whatever it is you can take
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any clip and add text to it and then you're funneling people's viewpoint into that so much
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of what we do is just the clipped version of it yeah people have so much agendas i think that's
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great about the show is that it breathes for three hours and have all these different people
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and then people kind of decide for themselves but the whole clipping on x is kind of that's like
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a game genie is cheating yeah it feels a little cheating sometimes yeah but people were like yeah
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he's not supportive and stuff and i've never felt anything in fact as i've gotten to know him better
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over the years which is which is he's such a busy dude i think like imagine like i look at my phone
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it's like my mom's texting me you know she's she's like also send me some emojis that aren't always
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most positive and some of them i think means things that she doesn't even know they mean
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so a couple of veggies she sent me i'm like this is yeah eggplants mom you should never be
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don't tell me you're making eggplant just say eggplant yeah just make it dude just make it
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don't even bring it up or she uses like that open mouth emoji all the time and i'm like what are the
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tongue out she's like it's kind of crazy she's like it's so hot today and she'll fucking squirt
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squirt it's so hot today squirt squirt so hot today i'm gonna make a couple of eggplants and
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i'm like dude what are you god she's just she loves gardening so it's just like you know it's
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just navigating shit like that but imagine you're joe rogan you open your phone up it's like
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elon musk has probably texted you you know like the some guy like some guy whose name you can't
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even read from like another country who wants to come on your podcast to like beg you know and
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then your wife also wants stuff your kids are asking just like he's like a thoroughfare for
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humanity sure you know he'll still text us back it's crazy like i'll text him and then even to
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book his show he's like how does he does it i know he doesn't i mean not to call you out i mean you
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have a producer i love you but like it's fine to get everybody else that's producers rogan is like
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hey how's how's this day sound i know that's bananas yeah dude but sometimes it's like we
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don't watch the whole episode and people don't know things yeah well we live in a hot take society
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we do it's kind of crazy well there's money in it so there's money there's attention there's views
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so yeah you just have to pull back and try not to be so susceptible to it like as you get older
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just realize okay yeah i think sometimes it's like i don't know but yeah i felt yeah i mean
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in that instance or with that specific thing with joe it just felt like man i wish this isn't what
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i felt like happened you know yeah and yeah and he's just he's been super supportive he always
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kind of checks in over the years like he's gotten a little bit more real check-in or invite me out
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to dinner with his wife and his kids like little things like that it's like well i know it's hard
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it's probably hard for him to even be around a lot of people a lot because it's just a lot of
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energy you give out i remember we went to dinner in austin one time it was it was him tony lex
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Friedman. I'm trying to think who else, who else? It was like a bizarre, you're like,
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what is this life? You know, where it's an Italian restaurant. And then he changes the
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gravity of a, he's so big. You forget it. Again, it's one of those things of like, I
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see him at the comedy store all the time and I just see him as a comedian. I know him as
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that, but then you enter the real world and you kind of see how everyone else reacts to
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the same person. So we're just eating dinner and then this pasta would hit the table every
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now and then and then we look up and there's like a 45 year old woman just like throwing pasta to
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get his attention she's like hi and he's like yeah yeah i just you know i just want to say hello and
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he's like why don't you come downstairs and say hi like a normal person like okay i don't want
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to bother you if we were throwing pasta is way worse than just i don't know what was going through
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was a lady's head but she was just throwing pasta on the table that's italian emails brother that's
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all that's all it is bro just humming warm pasta at joe rogan's table that's fucking crazy
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um but yeah anyway i think it yeah i think it's got to be i don't know sometimes you think of
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what is it like to be him because he's he's an interesting guy um there's a question i want to
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ask you can i do that yeah sure so okay we were doing one of the shows and then i don't know if
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even heard it you're on stage and then some random person was like talk about road rules oh yeah and
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to me it's just so absurd because you've done so much past beyond that yeah you're kind of like
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you're like does anybody even remember that how do you take it that part of your life and then
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what was that kind of fame because that was mtv was huge that's sort of like what tiktok is now
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or being a streamer that's a good point i never thought about it in a correlation like what that's
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what tiktok is now yeah think about any young person uh who's famous mtv was that for us that
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was like the vessel well it's probably where michael jackson premiered on i'm guessing that
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probably one of the networks that it premiered on because i think mtv was semi-universal at the time
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yeah that was our tiktok pretty much like if you wanted anything young it was that yeah and i also
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have this thought too like young people today have it so nice that the entertainment they watch is
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made by young people when we were growing up we were watching like balding 30 year olds
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try to be in high school on tv shows and some of them were probably touching the kids they were
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working with maybe we don't know but all there's a pretty good chance that was happening but we
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were watching an approximation of youth you know like that's because that's all we had we're
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watching yo mama we were watching wilmer valderrama host different factions of yo mama groups yeah now
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if you're 10 you can find a 10 you're like or now if you're 20 you can find it you can find like
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somebody who speaks to you right that's a good point i never thought about that exactly because
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even um like i'm trying to think like yeah mtv it was like older people it was people who were
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watching that were 12 or 13 it slanted younger but you had to watch i got these are the youngest
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people i see on tv but they happen to be 20 or 25 like 90210 how old were they during
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shooting that they were probably 26 ish i would bet maybe like one of them was full-on like
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yeah those were the shows we would sit and watch
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family and then I'll get back and answer your question
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too because I don't want you to think I was trying not to answer it
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priestly luke perry ian zering gabrielle carteris uh 29 years old yeah i mean i mean some of them
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are young yeah some of them make sense but some of them are a stretch and this is when it started
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too so by the end they were all mid-20s right but dude yeah that like that show was the show
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where like like probably i'd watch with three of my siblings and we were all like two years apart
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so we all had like different like one of us was watching it was like cool about school one because
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it was cool it was at a high school and one of us was watching because like you know we hadn't
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gotten to hear about things that like older kids do or anything like that and then um one of us
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was just watching to see like if there was any leg showing or anything like that or a little bit of
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sexy time or something you know but yeah dude that was a fucking juggernaut how many people
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watch that show i wonder so many i'm sure it was unbelievable luke perry passed away a few years
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good indie yeah and shannon doherty oh yeah that show was wild dude uh yeah for the road rule stuff
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the crazy thing for me was sometimes i can't even remember it it's that long ago it's that long ago
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i think and i think i've just had like you know we get busier and like with comedy you're doing
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a lot of stuff like you're performing in a lot of like you know you get up almost every night and so
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So I think that starts to take over a lot of space.
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One thing that was, I think, in hindsight, a blessing about that experience
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was that I kind of got to be, like, you got a level of popularity there,
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but you didn't, like, with doing road rules, being on MTV,
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So you had no, and you had no, the only way you could get, like, any, like,
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kind of you had to keep going back to them to if you wanted something else you know you just had
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to be in their world and and part of it was a blessing and stuff like that you got to do cool
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stuff i'm not complaining but um but but one thing was i realized at that time that like
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there wasn't a like being popular was cool but there wasn't like a ton of value to it
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like for years i kind of thought like oh is this cool thing but then i was like well what is it for
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like where does it really you know like you know i'd end up having long conversation with drunk
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dudes at a bar or something or some fucking monster that corners you and you're like trying
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to look over his shoulder like hopefully hopefully some woman's giving you eye contact you're sitting
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there just just stuck fucking inches away from some dude's non-deodorant you know but yeah i
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think i realized that there was wasn't a lot of that fame had like there wasn't a ton of value to
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it well especially monetarily it wasn't there right so you just had fame but you didn't have
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you don't really own your fans kind of right you're like everybody like oh look at that
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motherfucker damn he's fucked up you know or he's at the you know he'd be at the bus stop at school
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just normal shit that's totally normal you're in college yeah so just gave you a bunch of
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conversations you didn't want to have to be in or yeah well like maybe look at the values of
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popularity like well what value is this like yeah it's valuable to me in the sense of like
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if i'm going to be out and i'll or if i want to get help get into a nightclub or something but
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i don't really have a voice for myself i didn't really have um anything to show for you didn't
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make any money so it was um you know you had some fun experiences but then you were also left with
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a lot of people who knew you who you were and no way to hide from it you know like i remember i was
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even after that i was sleeping on my buddy's floor for like probably a year you know uh so i don't
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know it just it almost felt like i don't know it just gave you a look at what popularity was and
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the values of it and the non-values of it i think so then like i started comedy and then 10 years
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later i had this whole other experience and most people don't even know about the first one or they
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just didn't put it together i don't know what happened yeah because i so rarely hear about it
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such a deep cut yes sometimes i wish i remember like i think i was just at a young place like i
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was just at a place where you're just energetic and frenetic and shit you're just trying to get
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laid and trying to just jerk yourself off or whatever and tell been lied to people say you
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got laid or something uh-huh um well i guess now people because you were glomming on to this other
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thing that was kind of bigger than the pieces who are part of that show. So it almost feels like
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you're renting that fame or you're just a part of the assembly line. Yeah. I felt like I didn't
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have any, it didn't represent me. Like none of the, and it felt like I didn't, they can edit
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things the way they want, which are fine, but it's not my, I don't get to be the, I don't get to be
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the be all end all of me. Right. Like I, I don't get to say exactly how this is, this is for me.
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Right. Um, but I don't know. It was cool that I got this one thing I think I'm almost kind of
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grateful to God about it is that I got this like trial run at what it was like to have some
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popularity. And so then whenever it happened again, I think I've been able to navigate it
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differently for myself. Yeah. Um, not always great, but I've definitely had a different
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perception of it and, uh, and a different understanding of the potential values of it
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in some spaces. Right. Maybe. Does that make any sense? No, it does. Cause even people have an
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idea of what fame is and, but there's like levels to it as well. And you think you want it. I think
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especially when you're young just because the things that you want fame will unlock immediately
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but those are kind of primal wants once you get past it you realize okay it's not as great but
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it's great when you're 18 or 20 yeah if you're just trying to be coming or whatever getting
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meals or whatever yeah yeah coming and meals it's great you know coming or meals fame is great for
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that but like why am i here it's harder if you want to bust and have like pad thai it's fame is
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awesome you'll do those for free but if you like you know what are these relationships are they
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built on lies it's harder for that yeah it's harder so i don't know but um but yeah sometime
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we'll have to next time we do an episode we'll have to go down some of those roads roads or even
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those roads of like shows that we used to watch and shit thinking about something that's fun
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um so you started out in business you worked at boeing what were you doing over there i was doing
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engineering so i was doing stress analysis at long beach so the boeing out in long beach
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that's what i went to school for i did mechanical engineering and but i knew i wanted to do stand up
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when i was 18 i was very young and and then i just applied to jobs in socal and then i got a job at
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boeing in long beach so and what is a mechanical engineer just so people know there's different
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facets of it you can go into you can do like hvac that's that's an industry you can go into just
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like heating and cooling you can go into some people work at toyota or with cars and then
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aerospace is a big employer of mechanical um just think about anything mechanical there's going to
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be mechanical engineers like tesla just you know anything mechanical um so then yeah i got my degree
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and then i knew i wanted to stand up and as a stand-up back then there was no internet really
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I mean, or social media, you had to go to New York or LA.
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And then I'm like, ah, my parents are in Seattle.
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I kind of want to do entertainment as well, TV movies.
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I was, the summer after I graduated high school, I was 18.
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And then I just started going to the comedy clubs in Seattle.
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Jeff Dye actually started a few years after me,
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So there was some funny people coming out of Seattle.
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I was there for like four years and then I quit.
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Like, is it like a nice space where you guys have like a launch or like a community area?
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At least I was envious because tech was having this boom with Microsoft, Google.
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People are on Razor scooters, jumping to ball pits and shit.
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But just to hear somebody say that, it just shows you how people are so different in different
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Like nobody ever where I'm from has ever said tech look-
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You're saying no one in Louisiana said Tech looks so fun to you?
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It's just cool how, like, places are different.
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And is it just for Afghanistan, or is it for a lot of—
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yeah and people are fucking you can see people out they don't like them well they're calling i'm not
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saying they're out there yelling you know shit right right they call them momos or just we don't
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like you momos get the fuck out of here or wagers they're calling i'm like that's insane to be
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what's happening you know it doesn't even know a slur is being thrown at it is just is it's trying
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to get its people to where it's got to go yeah dude well i saw you have dude this reminds me
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and he's just like staring at you like paint drying
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I got to take one recently I get in there's no driver
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and it was quiet for a while the ride was pretty quiet
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everything you but that's like I feel like you do like a million
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man it's always so novel you're one of the people that
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it just makes me like i don't know it's just like it's like the purest thing it's like
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this is something funny let me see how it goes that's so cool that you like notice that or
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appreciate it because that's honestly the whole reason i do stand up is i think of something and
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i i i think it's funny and i i want to share it and i hope that people validate what i this idea
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like does this idea work does it have legs and when they do it's the best feeling in the world
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for me when I have a bit that like I know works
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i get less of a rush because i know it works i know the joke works so it almost feels like
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there's a it serves its purpose like when you do the road and you're celebrating those bits that
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you got to that place but if i'm just working out in town i'm like i already know i already
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know the joke works so it doesn't scratch the comic itch in me but if i can get something
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that's mediocre or a brand new thought to work that's when i get all the like dopamine and stuff
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I'm like what a rush that's like catching a big
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about things that are black and white we've been talking about
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talk about things that are black and white do you think that we went to the
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that's so funny you just like kept on drilling down on it
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And you left the business because you're like, oh, these – they don't – why did you leave?
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I was finally doing well enough in comedy where I could.
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But, I mean, most of us had to double life it until you got to the point where the art was doing well enough to abandon ship.
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Oddly enough, I had booked this MTV show, and they needed me for three months.
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just to let them know that I plan on returning.
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and then I just, I just left the office, you know?
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I was just waiting for them to terminate me, right?
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So enough time, I'm dodging them, I'm dodging them.
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I'm in my shitty apartment that you just saw
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and came back really yeah that dude was bagged up when he came back and that shit was the best bro
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and when they had like three or four people and they had to pick who to let go and sometimes
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you'd be shocked that was good that was eliminated oh okay okay when they had like three or four of
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them or yeah i think four or three and then each time they would let somebody go and then they had
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like the last one or whatever then there was one called fifth wheel there was on the bus or whatever
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and then did you get to be the datey so the premise of the show oh my god i'm so young
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so friends would set their friends up on the date
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they could last on the date and you're just acting wild
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which is like nothing why would anybody do this
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you could just be Somalian and make millions dude
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Yes. And this was the red-headed stepchild
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that nobody watched. Got it. Because Jersey Shore
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Because a lot of comedians have a good sense, I think, sometimes of like bullshit because they're making a lot of bullshit.
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So it's like they know, you know, how much is on the scale at times.
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I'm not as smart as people think I am just because of the title.
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It's tough because like, yeah, I worked at Boeing and I was an engineer.
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But then people think that I'm way, I just did a bunch of school.
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I was good at these formulas and I did it, but I really don't know a ton of stuff.
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So that's a picture some guy just took on his iPhone
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and it was just like keep it moving there's an art to it congrats to byron allen they got that
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new time slot so yeah good for comics unleashed they give a lot of you know screen time to
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younger comics and stuff and more people establish one too yeah they've done they've
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done a lot of that for people um yeah and since we're on the subject of space and wiggas let's
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they just had a marriage proposal it's a gender reveal oh i'm sorry it's the yeah this is a gender
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reveal no matter what gender that baby's going to be mixed that's just wiganomics homie
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what if they do an ultrasound and the baby's like
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he's just like his dad he's like pop lock and drop it he's sea walking in the womb
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dude yeah they don't wiggas was everything when i was a kid man i mean i feel you used to be able
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to say it freely some people get tense about like are you allowed to say wiggas is it still
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oh can we is it back yeah it's back it never left dude half the nba
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i feel like they're euro though we used to have well bring up a couple euro wiggas if you can
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is that the new term i guess it is i mean that's a great question who is kind of a euro uh
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a euro dub they're mostly euro dubs you think we used to have homegrown dubs
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Did they have a lot of dubs up there in Seattle?
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Every middle school has some dubs, but they're not real dubs.
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With all that rain up there, a lot of damp dubs, huh?
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If you're a Wigga, how can you even get married?
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Like, you're already married to the streets, I feel like.
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Oh, I left the trenches to get you, and let's go back together.
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It's almost like that movie with Robin Williams.
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sometimes you like if you especially if you're going
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through a time period where you do not want to be
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one of our previous producers this kid rally now
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he used to pray that God would touch him in his sleep
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where you're like not at home and like now this
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when you're a kid and like you're somebody else's
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But you're you have no control over your brain.
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yeah yeah it's kind of crazy how if you wet the bed at somebody's house so like that's fine let's
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help you out you know but you ejaculate in your sleep at somebody's house and they're like oh
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get out you go i could have wet the bed yeah
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damn that's different dude what else we got what's popping guys some of the robots i love that
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robot dog in the atlanta apartment complex oh yeah let's see that dude yeah especially since
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Let's get your viewpoint on some of this tech, dude.
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What if I was like, I was at Epstein Island, and I got to meet him briefly.
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I was trying to ask him about Windows, but he said he had to get to a room.
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Did you ever hear rumors about him or anything?
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I feel like a lot of those files, you're like, what?
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Who would think that Bill Gates is doing, you know what I mean?
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Yeah, I think money, you know, you get so much power.
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I can understand why these people, but like nobody would throw a dart and think it would hit Bill Gates.
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Yeah, when I was a kid in the 90s, this guy talking about windows, think he's going to be on a Epstein Island.
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And it's crazy to think how they, like they made everybody, like Michael Jackson is a pedophile or whatever, right?
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And he may or may not have been, we don't know.
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People jump as far as they can for Connie Chung?
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How much money do you think we could raise for that?
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and you just anointed me as the resident expert,
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now they got the motherfucking robot dog in the motherfucking hood patrolling apartment
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what the fuck type of a y'all shit it is what the fuck he look like he finna bite your way
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hello oh baby how are you how are you where are you at i'm good this is a person on it so
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So, we're actually, like, the robotic security dog here.
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Dude, a lot of black folks, they didn't want you to say what's up to them, bro.
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Once they said hi, bro, everybody was chill, you know?
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The robot's wearing like a couple chains and shit next week.
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Dude, they're going to fucking fix that thing up.
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They're going to get that thing in a little suit.
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It's going to look like fucking LaBelle Crawford in a month.
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That bitch is going to be dope as hell, bro.
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They're going to get that thing popping, bro.
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old school dogs like when I was growing up they had dogs
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the first time I ever saw a dog that lived indoors I went to
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came around the corner dude and we were inside
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and I was like whoa and it was like a blonde
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beautiful this thing came around and it lived
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inside and i could not even believe it i could it blew my mind i was like you gotta be kidding me
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but it was so beautiful it deserved to live inside right like i'd seen a lot of dogs that hadn't had
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missing teeth missing fucking eyebrows or whatever missing all kinds of shit you know just
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dogs that we had a dog that couldn't go forward or whatever that bitch was always so he'd fucking
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he was something his his shoulders his front shoulders were uh um calcified or whatever
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And so he had to fucking, so we had to go backwards.
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But he would still get you, you know what I'm saying?
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At first you'd be like, this motherfucker ain't getting me.
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But then, bro, two minutes later, he'd have you fucking cornered somewhere, bro, with his asshole.
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He'd have you cornered with his dang asshole.
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And you still hear his voice, but it's going the other way, bro.
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And that's the kind of shit I grew up around, bro.
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If you were a dancing cop, though, Liam, and—
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Maybe that could be a way to recruit a lot of people who normally wouldn't be cops.
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I think if there's a cool way to hit the cops on them, you know?
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Like, what song do you want to listen to while you get arrested?
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So you could choose whatever song you want played while I arrest you.
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And then while they're slammed against the car, it's like a Kendrick track.
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But Mystical, I think, he sampled that in his song.
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White people don't love it as much to be cousins.
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But I feel like even like Afghans will use cousin loosely.
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Because sometimes there's a family friend that's so close that just saying friend doesn't quite describe it.
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And then cousin is almost like honorary cousin.
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It's like people will come into your life and they really represent a lot of like something that's very meaningful, like a meaningful connection, you know?
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So sometimes friend isn't really, doesn't really do it justice.
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Parents who use drugs have children who use drugs.
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And to think years later, our own country would be forcing us into drug use, you know, and profiting off of it.
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Or when they had the thing in your high school.
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Remember when they had the don't die like this?
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And it would be like, they always did it around Halloween because they had extra blood in the area or whatever.
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and they'd set the back of the car on fire and it would all
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happen like out on the football field and you'd have to go watch it
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we probably shouldn't have been seeing that that young
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and then they'd always hide a bag of coke on a kid or something
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and people were like oh shit William got coke
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life, people would be like, damn, William got coke on him,
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bro. Yeah, just to make an example out of a kid
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He'd just ruin his life. You don't want to be like
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but it was clear to us back then that's what's crazy bro
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truce of thoughts yeah this is your third special it's my fourth i think okay that's my fourth
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special yeah damn well i'm at the point now where you kind of tour for a year and then you got to
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hang the painting somewhere you kind of get it tight from city to city and then you gotta i'm
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done with these jokes yeah you gotta film it and then put it out there and then move on so it's
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less about putting a special out and like i'm huge that used to be the thing back in the day
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This was me for the past year when I was on tour.
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Because everything is, sorry, can I fix this?
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The fact you've put together 11 sentences is way better than most of us in the world are doing, dude.
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Because everything is so clip-based, and that's great.
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but it's nice to show that you can do a cohesive 45 to an hour it's sort of the difference between
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breaking a vase into a million pieces but i'd like to see the whole vase this is what i was
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doing on the road here it is and hopefully people like it i want them to watch it but now i get to
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move on and that's kind of nice you just dump all those jokes from your head and then who am i now
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and let's talk about that yeah dude intrusive thoughts that's awesome and where can people
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having me on this pod to get the word out on the special it means a lot to me man oh thanks dude
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i appreciate it man um i have one other question i want to ask you like i feel like in my lifetime
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like a lot of people that are from the middle east have gotten like a bad rap like in or they've
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gotten negatively possibly negatively like branded by um media kind of when i say that does that
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because you always hear stuff like um you know these people are jihadists or these people are
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like even the term muslim to some people makes it seem like that that person is like a person
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with a bomb or like um do you think that that's a real thing that's happened um and then uh
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and then what can you say like about like people from that like do you think people from some of
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those areas like hate america or like maybe don't have to go that far but just like can you take me
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If I say that kind of stuff, does it make you think anything?
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I mean, you're not far off in terms of the branding of Muslims over the past couple of years, especially post 9-11.
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This whole podcast is leading up to, did you do 9-11?
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This has just been like a honey trap the whole time
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I mean, I had this joke about it back in the day
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I think it is changing with the internet and social media.
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You can't paint people with these broad strokes
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but yeah it was dicey for a while because every time there was a you know nine post 9 11 the
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temperature was if you happen to be that you you felt it you know when i would fly i would be
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secondary search and i grew up a boy meets world in tgif i'm just as american i watched uh saved
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by the bell but you just happen to look a certain way or and there's nothing you could do about it
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in your Rams jersey, you're going to get some flack
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Yeah, I think I'm just curious about that sometimes.
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And then, yeah, does it feel like the media made it,
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I think it's leverage for some agenda sometimes.
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But I don't automatically just knee-jerk go to that.
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I think people are generally pretty nice people.
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I'm just kind of curious because sometimes you start to think,
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I think you look back at the world or your lifetime,
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And you're like, what things are like, did we land on the moon?
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I think a lot of people are in like a serious, the most space I've ever seen in my life.
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Like people are coming up to me and like movie theaters and shit and fucking like asking
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me about shit about fucking Nepal or like Tibet or whatever.
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It's like, well, we all have to be experts now.
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And then you go, if you'll go down a rabbit hole.
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Right, it's like, if this, then that's the thing.
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and then this shorting the stock and all that stuff,
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what's going on, these timed things with the stock market,
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and then you fucking, it's hard to get away
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