#671 - Casey Rocket
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Summary
Casey Rocket is a stand-up comedian who's origins are mysterious, but you'll know him from his wildly popular Kill Tony appearances. He's on the road now, and there's no one like him. I had a great time with today's guest, the Sultan of riff.
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Recently, our company's softball team lost the big game by one run.
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If my team goes up big, I get paid out instantly,
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If you have questions or concerns about your gambling
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today's guest is a stand-up comedian his uh his origins are mysterious
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yes but you'll know him from his wildly popular kill tony appearances uh he's on the road now
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you can see him live um there's no one like him there's no one like him i had a great time
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with today's guest the sultan of riff mr casey rocket
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sometimes i can't tell if i'm having like male hot flashes or whatever sure men of a certain age
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every age every age maybe men of a certain age being the spectrum of all ages yeah
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dude i think these days things have gotten crazy you'll see a little kid having a hot flash or
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whatever he'll be like you know you'll see a little kid is like go like just looking from
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like a a faucet people are like they're people are trying to do anything they can to cool these
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kids off yeah yeah to help to help themselves sure yeah a spigot you'll see people doing like
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the the level we've gotten to in a society of trying to help ourselves is crazy it's like
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people are playing like a lot of like certain hertz of sounds that is supposed to like
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you know help you pass old uh trauma or help you uh you know uh win the lottery like there's a lot
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like there's a lot of megahertz that's variable for different options you know yeah yeah there's
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all kinds of sounds that can help you win the lottery um i'm the first to admit that yeah so
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certain like tonal certain like tonal shifts so if you go like low like you'll win what is it
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like 10 to 20 grand yes so but the higher ones they get dangerous for your like what do they
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call it like um terminal mental velocity yeah yeah well when people win too much money it induces
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a lot i think it's called high dollar trauma or something hdt and you you will see people with
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that like rich people or whatever and they're suddenly eating like rare cheeses cheeses made
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from, you know, obviously the, you know, cultivated or pasteurized in the tiers of the poor and
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young. Yes. Well, what did they say? It's like old money at the poverty line. So it's like LA,
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LA by way of New York. So the lower the cheese is on like a vibrational frequency, the higher
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the dollar amount you don't have to pay. It's like a tax write off. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, definitely.
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If you get, cause there's somebody running around with a 425 megahertz queso dip right now.
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I know there's a truck that just stalled out on the way to the Hamptons.
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I think when you're pushing that much high-dollar dairy and you're pulling it behind you,
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and you have a fucking probably a seventh or eighth grade reading-level driver.
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The buck stops when the truck stops, as they say.
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God, if queso made us freaking smarter, God, can you even imagine?
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Can you imagine the mental bandwidth I would have right now?
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So you get like, what is it, like a fudge pop of like frozen queso fresco.
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And then you go like, okay, you go chili con carne, pure liquid.
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and then you go with the gas which is um just like a handful of like ritz and those are so good
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and what i've also heard is that they have those new queso whippets or whatever
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like a whippet like pimento cheese whippets and you fucking galaxy gas yeah yeah you hit a couple
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of those brother oh i got a stomach ache oh you'll get sick yeah you left to shit you'll have to poop
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But yeah, it's bad for your appendix, yeah.
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or a rich person will hire you to burst your appendix so they don't have to.
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That's what happened to Duff McKagan from Guns N' Roses.
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I think I know, well, not widespread, but I know someone in the Testeghi Trucks Band.
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He's like, hey, I want to teach you steel guitar
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What's the catch? I'm going to teach you how to play southbound
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It's almost, well, I misread your name earlier, and that's what even had me thinking about it.
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There should be, like, a Latino version of you that comes out named Queso Rocket.
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god i hope we're okay um me too a riff like that will make you start questioning like your
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your purpose in the world yeah things get rough dude well i was it reminded me it took me to a
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place when i went to see um i went and we watched it was at a music festival one weekend it was in
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new orleans it's called a jazz and heritage festival it's every year and it's uh they had
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and somebody just kind of spraying water on him
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plants or whatever that helped David Allen Coe that happened with Ozzy too they like hooked him
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up to a life support machine I was there I was in Birmingham I saw Ozzy's last concert were you
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really yeah and did they like was he on an IV and stuff while he was up there um yeah he was in like
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a UV light really yeah they had him in like it was like a makeshift like final destination tanning
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machine so it was like but it was like pointed outward so he didn't have to be laying down
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but see so that is a tanning bed you can see the blue yeah it helped him like he had like
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photosynthesis it made him like effervescent i mean that's the darkest tanning bed you can get
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they're like how dark do you want to go it's like we offer like uh you know uh pensacola alabama
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tri-delta pensacola beach or we also can go all the way we can do ozzy last show dark we could do
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It's like, it's a lot of people that are in trouble reading and writing who refuse to teach their kids how to read and write because they can't, right?
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But for years, people have been pretending they can, and then they show the kid.
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And that's like trickle-down ignoromics, right?
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And that's the kind of shit that we don't need in the community.
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Well, we thought for years they were listening to what we were listening to, right?
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And finally people were like, no, they need their own music.
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And I think it's, I want to say it's Baptist-based.
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You can see some of that seeping into the ground water
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You know sometimes you wake up and your legs are all
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Know someone would pee in my bed every night and it wasn't me
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dude it couldn't have been that many times no once or twice you go all right i've been making
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some mistakes yeah four or five ten times you get up to double digits you go like i'm being
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persecuted yeah definitely i'm being gang stalked by a bunch of pissers yeah dude it's obvious that
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they're sneaking in through our broken window downstairs near the kitchen yeah they're coming
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up they're pissing on your boy okay i've talked to the landlord he won't answer him it goes to
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it goes to a front desk of Christian Dior somewhere.
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People are not wearing gloves anymore when they drive
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I saw an animal the other day, no hoofs on his feet
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Okay, yeah, what happened to the nuclear family?
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Dog sitting there smoking in the car by himself.
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I don't know if people don't care or if they've taken our ability to care away.
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If it is endemic of a greater social, sociopolitical problem or if it's engendered upon the human race in general.
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because that's a big question because the first thing you would take away from somebody is their
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ability to care yes yeah because it leaves you in a spot you know yeah well the one true export of
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all of the maleficence of consciousness is uh hope without faith god that gives me that gives me the
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shivers that's so scary so people are now dogs without nails god and they still think they're
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Have you seen a cat scan of a woman's belly recently?
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Isn't it like a recent, like an up-to-date cat scan?
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One woman had a Frisbee and an eight ball in there.
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So whatever is living in there or part-time or whatever is keeping its luggage there.
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That was a great WCW pay-per-view, the party at the park.
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I know they did the bash at the beach, so I can only hope that they did the party at the park.
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And it was a kind of a – it was a beautiful day.
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They hung, like, a briefcase full of the world's, like, the finest charcuterie board in the world, right?
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They hung the finest charcuterie board in the world up, and you had to climb up a ladder, right?
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And then you had to get three strong kids, and you had to climb up one of their backs, right?
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And you didn't know which one, and the winner got it.
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And also, if you're standing there, intuitioning which kid has a nice back, dude,
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if you do it too strongly you go to jail right so it would take you longer to get to the charcuterie
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yeah and if you do it too long also booker t is gonna hit you with a chair so it's yeah that was
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like a good thought experiment that was like the stanford prison experiment in action oh it's where
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we are um casey rocket dude good to see you man good to see you happy to be here it's awesome
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dude you're such a talent and it's great to just see you like in the wild you were in huntington
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last night i saw yeah it was in huntsville or huntsville yeah they keep changing the fucking
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name i know because they're trying to avoid the irs or whatever yeah i actually it's funny before
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i came here i i took a shower a um gregorian greco-roman shower and uh which is of course
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a cheese a cheese danish that i put in a bunch of socks and i kind of strain it out over my head
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but i wrote on my hand i wrote on my hand last night i don't know why but i wrote santa cruz
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did you just look at your hand, the answer is yes.
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The stage, the location from the stage to the audience,
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and the ratio of the audience is very rare there.
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Even, you know, Zany's Nashville, Zany's Chicago.
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I'm going to get out there because she would want me to see it.
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She'd want you, yeah, to see how they make the spaceships.
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That's where they reverse engineer the anti-gravity technology.
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So apparently that's where some of the scientists are going missing.
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Oh, and that's where those scientists have gone missing out in Huntsville?
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So one of them in particular, she did go the way the dodo.
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But, yeah, they're being missing all over the place.
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At least 10 individuals connected to sensitive U.S. aerospace, nuclear, and defense research have died or disappeared recently.
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that gives me more pause that we're part of some like greater like neo-noir detective thing yeah
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them just just dying i mean people die every day people die every day yeah william neil mccaslin
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a retired u.s air force major major general he vanished from his new mexico home in february
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2026 leaving his phone and identification behind well santa claus or santa fe dude that takes you
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back to that question man that's a tough one sure yeah well somebody let the door open and the wrong
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dogs came home you know i know who it was it was some of those piss warriors from freaking christian
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dior probably pulled up and wet that dude down a little you create you create enough of a uh of a
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you know of a of a stream in the kitchen a senior is gonna fuck yeah flash flood oh a senior does
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not stand a chance against a flash flood and i'll say that out loud brother i'll run into a damn
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vineyard vines and scream mad sure and i'll be receptive to it the whole time yeah yeah i'll be
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sitting there back there with a good book just going god dang he's right he's right you'll poke
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your head out of a changing room be like all right never had a chance yeah if you slick somebody up
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but even the stream's even going to get them, you know, you would think.
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They, you know, they're probably more worldly,
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and they'll see the stream maybe before the white grandpa,
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but either way, when the flood comes, come on, man.
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They have a hot dog culture that is out of this world,
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And the people have been treating me with grace and kindness.
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And I, in turn, have been passing on to them a smile.
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Yeah, I worked at a mothership for a year, and I won the equivalent.
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So yeah, I was really ingrained in the scene there.
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But yeah, I have a lot of really great friends there.
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I felt like maybe it was time for me to do something else.
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So you wrote me a letter of recommendation for that.
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So I just wanted to make some changes in my life, yeah.
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and then I'm going to write my great American novel.
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Is there a novel that you kind of were inspired by?
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that led you to even kind of spark that in your head?
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Or a book that you read that kind of sparked that in your head?
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there was one book i read and i was like huh yeah there's some good like memoir type books that i
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really liked one of them is a book called permanent midnight by a guy named jerry stall
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that they made into a movie with ben stiller um another great one is sing backwards and weep
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by mark lane again who used to be the lead singer of the screaming trees um so yeah some memoirs
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and then a lot of like screenplays like obviously i'm a big fan as most people are of paul thomas
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anderson who did magnolia and one battle after another pta pta yeah so yeah i love movies and
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i like movies and i'm just as happy with a good book i can't stress that enough
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but yeah i want to learn how to like write screenplays and stuff like that and
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i want to be a multi-hyphenate i want to be a bad boy and i want to be a sweetie
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how do you do that i wonder i'm trying to think of like a candy that really presents itself like
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that oh sour patch kids you think oh because they're kids and there's nothing more rotten than
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a kid right but they're yeah but but they're also very cherubian kids are very cherubescent
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sure they're very much like the angels they're god's little wiggers or whatever right and so
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when you add that sourness to them you're saying this is another thing about them and you might
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Yeah, so I think there's a lot of that that goes on.
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When you combine stuff like that, there's also some candies that some people can't even get through.
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Like we had kids that couldn't handle gobstoppers or whatever, and they had to move to another school.
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We'd have kids, you know, and people were like, you know what I'm saying?
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Like they just couldn't, they couldn't figure it out.
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It's – for me, when I think of gobstoppers, I think that the line of demarcation is only visible to those outside the cultural means of production.
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And so it really is Leninism at its most Stalingradian, but it's beautiful.
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So you can see that it's actually a model of the universe.
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That's why – because you just – there's so much to go through.
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If you want to get to that center, which is just plutonium, it is yellow cake uranium.
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So it'll make you sick as a dog, but it'll make you grow in ways you should not.
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I saw a kid who had to take his shoes off in the middle of one because his feet were popping right out of him.
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And a lot of rumors is that Wonka was working early with Forever Chemicals.
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I saw a video the other day that people's grandparents now have PFAs in them,
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so they're suggesting, like, shutting down hugs, shutting down.
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so it does make people, like, it'll make you happy in the moment but sad for a lifetime.
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Short answer, yes, several popular candies formerly marketed under the Wonka brand,
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Inside the freezer in a fridge that's unplugged.
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So it's planting this seed of like this is getting.
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So it's like, so like my body's telling me this is getting colder.
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But my heart of hearts is like, brother, you know, this is room town.
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Here was an old trick we would use if we were driving around and doing coke, right?
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We'd fill the glove box with Charleston Chews, right?
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So when the cop pulled you over, you open that, he sees them all fall out.
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It was just like it changed the level of anger and curiosity of the cop.
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It was a little bit more, oh, wow, there's piñatas in here.
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Yeah, these are just a couple of candy guys out for a midnight stroll.
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Well, the original tagline for Sour Patch Kids was,
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there is no greater sin than the sin of being born.
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But there was also Sugar Ain't Got Nothing on this clan.
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And then you eat a couple of them and you go, I shouldn't be eating this.
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And this is going back to the nuclear family breaking down.
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There's never a mother involved, you know?
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It was just a challenged man dancing around in a mall.
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Willing to dry up the air to get a little sugar in his system.
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Yeah, they called that the old Milwaukee handshake.
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oh, God, there's nothing that'll make you leave your family faster
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I thought, surely, you were talking about Wonka
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I was like, oh, surely, this is just a Christmas riff.
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and he was petting a landmine or something in Iwo Jima
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missing his wife maybe put some of his wife clothes
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You know, lost something important that had semen hiding in it.
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But now it's just some guy, you know, you see some guy in a wheelchair and you're like, what happened?
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He's like, you know, I had too many nerd ropes, you know, or something.
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Like just the turnover, the embarrassment of our injuries is going to start to get real and it's going to start to get real fast.
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Well, it's already, they call it, it's at the event horizon.
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We can only hope to, like, build a fallout shelter.
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But, yeah, I've met some older guys who thought that, like, nerds' clusters were, like, basically like a tasty hydrogen bomb.
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So it, like, looks like the atom, like the base molecules of human life.
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But they eat them and they, like, shit their pants and scream at their family or whatever.
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But then the crazy part is they start to choose that.
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But it's going to get weird when, or what, you know, what happened to you, you know, and you're like, yeah, I hurt my, you know, like I was after years of plowing or working or whatever, doing trade work or whatever.
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And now it just can be like, you know, after years of hiding from my wife in the other room eating whatchamacallits or whatever, now, you know, I have a fucking, I have a pH balance of a fucking fluorescent light bulb at a mall.
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If you eat more than five you get Osmosis Jones
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Yeah so you get like a little guy like fighting slime crime
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And I'm guessing that's happening at an Aussie concert
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i guess if we're really here yeah if we're not just an interference pattern on a different
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so yeah I like kind of stopped headlining for a bit and then got back to doing like some local
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stuff I got involved in the St. Louis scene and I like featured again and yeah just kind of started
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over a little bit I'm running a new hour and it's been good to enjoy doing it you know when it feels
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like a job you get kind of jaded and it's like I just ever wanted all I ever wanted was to riff
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so it just things got complicated yeah um were you happy with like because Kill Tony was was
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and is kind of like the tonight show in a way right people would call it that kind of like
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the tonight show but you know a different like amalgamation of it right or like a present
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semi-present day yeah you know there's also dark sorcerers that are involved with it but
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it's exactly where we are in the world and it's great it's a great show did you feel like being
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attached to that became too much or like how did you handle like the popularity and celebrity
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because i would say you were one of the most popular guys that kind of came through that
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system um did it feel like that because um even in my own life and recently like i've you know
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like in the past year i've thought a lot about like ego and what does popularity or mean and
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the value of it and stuff like that you know yeah well i think i started to assign some of my self
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worth some of my self-worth and the opinions of others not that i i would never look at stuff
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um take the good and and not think about anything else but um yeah I was just really wrapped up
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in all this pressure that I was either misinterpreting or putting on myself and
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I didn't like it I didn't enjoy doing it anymore yeah and and as you say like when it wasn't going
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well I didn't like myself kind of yeah yeah dude I can relate to some of that man yeah I felt like
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And, you know, I try to improvise so much riff, some have said, many have said, and if I wasn't able to catch my thoughts perfectly, and that opens the door for so much pressure on myself, where I was thinking of myself, maybe rightfully so, maybe not, duality, yes, laws of polarity, that I had so much potential.
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and I would try to use 100% of my potential on stage.
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if that's what you choose to do with your life.
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and in probably in december that there has to be more to life than this there has to be more
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than a performative affect um i have to be worth more than what i think i'm worth to my friends
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just as a performer and if my whole world is wrapped up in the business of show business
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then i am doomed to go spiritually bankrupt there's nothing that will ever be enough
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you know so yeah i just try it was really nice you know i made a lot of friends that weren't
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comedians for the first time in a long time wow um and it was just great you know people who
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didn't know who i was to know that i have worth to people like not being funny like i can just go
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to the movies and i can talk about movies or we can kick a soccer ball around which i never did
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but i could have yeah and if we had found a soccer ball at any point in the beginning of
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the year i could have kicked it around and it's and it's and that kept me going so i would wake
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up every day and i would make myself a promise and it was firm and it was if i run into an
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unattended soccer ball today or when i could borrow just for the time being i will kick it
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back and forth with whoever's around oh yeah i know exactly who can't get back and forth with
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some victim of uh who had too many of those little crackle bars or whatever and is now in a wheelchair
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and the last limb he can move is just soccering back and forth with a stranger passing through.
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He has to do one of those muscle tests or he has to hit his knee at the exact right time to kick it.
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And he does it himself now because that's his insurance provider.
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They mail you the little hammer with the little triangle, and you do it yourself at home.
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I mean, I just got a kit the other day to take a couple of cysts off my own body.
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They'll mail you the scalpel mail and all of the stuff.
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You put that up in the corner and you do it, man.
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And the picture, not to cut you off, but I think that it's one of those pictures where you look at it one way and she's beautiful.
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And then you look at it the other way and it's a witch.
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Yeah, her name is Ramona Lisa is her name.
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And you can pick what ethnicity you want the nurse to be.
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And it comes with a chocolate, which is ironic because.
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Great this is what happens when there's no free healthcare
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And both of those were drawn by Christina Mariani as well
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Which is if you've never seen someone freehand draw
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because like just being like an like i think you're a creative and artistic guy i think one
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of the most unique guys um in comedy or i think i don't know if that's the best thing to say to
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somebody i think it's true but i think you just have a unique way of being alive sure which i
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think is pretty cool because it's hard to figure that out in the world um but did you ever want
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to be over there at uh at savannah um scad i think it was yeah you always hear about that place in
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the south i went to college of charleston for a little bit and you'd always hear about scad like
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the people it's scared you know yeah it was like um ground zero for guys in scarves yes summer
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scarves too which is a rare oh my god you know what they say summer scarves bring winter tears
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um and that's george orwell as well yes that's 1984 that's so orwellian truly a demarouge of
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existential pessimism but that no i never i didn't and i'm happy that we are bringing up
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the tenets of the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn,
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I didn't have artistic inclinations until I was probably 20.
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A lot of field parties, parties in the woods, mudding.
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So I grew up in North Georgia, sort of by the foothills of Appalachia, I think.
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It's about like Gainesville by like Forsyth County.
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oh, that's a good way to be it, and did you feel like
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this a me that I created, does it ever come to your mind
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it's no judgment against you, I've just had that
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i took a break from touring and so much of my life i didn't realize had been like attached to
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well i always have somewhere to go oh i gotta get going yeah there's somewhere to be there's
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somewhere i need to be there's somewhere i'm going to be seen that's coming up and then now
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it's not really like that and it's okay but it's just been interesting to be like okay well say if
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that we're going forever then what you know who would how would i yeah what's going on with me
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you know yeah how would i because it is it's a degree of show business past a certain point
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is almost not even like seeking it's like running it's like you're running you think you're running
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towards something but you're running like away again from this idea that i have just coined the
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poltergeist of self about the the visage of like who is casey rock who is this um interference
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pattern of like where i grew up what my friends were like what i like to do and then also this
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person i try to present on stage which is you know it more or less is me i'm just having i'm
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just letting myself be a goofy guy. Yeah. But yeah, I mean, I have had instances of like ego
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death, either chemically induced or just being in a really low period of depression where,
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yeah, I look around and I go, what is all, what is all this for? You know? Um, but if I did have
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any answer, it would be that the macro mirrors the micro so that in the little victories of my life,
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i figure out my greater purpose like so it's easier for me now because i've gotten used to it
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the first six months of this year of not running around so much it's i've been so i've been so
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much happier where i i'm just a really stressed out guy you know i get i wear the world really
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heavily so if i have to do anything like even just like go to a local showcase it used to drive me
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nuts it ruined my whole day just the stress and knowing that it's coming it's hard to operate
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yeah some people seem to be able to operate kind of freely even if there's something looming you
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know yeah like me i'm already like fuck man my marriage what will my wedding day be like that
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shit's gonna fucking be net it's gonna be hectic and my if my wife's there she's gonna be pissed
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or whatever you know i'm saying like but that shit will weigh me down it's like on a regular
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thursday afternoon dude not to mention whatever else i have to do or sometimes like yeah that's
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such a cool way to say that yeah sometimes i just feel like i wear the world heavy and some people
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it just seems to be like this like summer saw that you know yeah that it's nothing like it
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seems to be like just like a little baby kite landed on their shoulder and they just brush it
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off you know yeah yeah but like sometimes i wouldn't want to go to sleep at night because
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i'd be like shit this is just leading to tomorrow and it already feels like so much i know you know
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yeah not to complain i'm just i'm also okay it's just like yeah you just think about this sometimes
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that shit gets heavy you know yeah well i think that um professionally and just part of our
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gumption and i am not using the correct word when i say that but uh we just want you know we have
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lives that are based on creation right so there were engendered to create and and i know if i
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have any down period where i'm not creating or i don't have to i feel like i'm not doing enough
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cause I'll get so stressed out about like nothing
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like I gotta have a child with like a barista soon
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I hope maybe I fall in love or something like that.
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I am the kind of guy who I do think anytime I walk into a place could be gas station, coffee shop, you know, tire center.
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Not tire center, but somewhere, a place they're going to have women.
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Like a Firestone, but that's been in business and that has a little bit of extra loot to keep a decent-looking broad at the front.
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Is there anything more divine than a greeter at a Firestone Tires?
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And she's standing there, and there's three tires right by her.
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I got a pair of cedar tires out back, a pair of cedar sinai's.
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Bring up the Lunk Alarm, because I got to make sure they're still using it, you know?
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I wish all places of business had something comparable to a Lunk Alarm.
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They used to just yell fatty or whatever, you know?
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Yeah, they would yell something like that, you know?
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Yeah, they used to yell steroid boy or whatever, but now, there we go.
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Dude, he gets it with 20 feet of a Planet Fitness.
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And it's just for somebody that's being, I guess, overtly...
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They hit that like the doomsday clock was at one minute to midnight.
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That caused a splinter of effect that has effectively ruined Reaganomics.
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They're getting us to think that being in shape is bad, right?
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It's all this slow, let me tune the dial a little different, right?
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Let me just mess with the opportunities here a little.
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but cedar cyanide dude those if you got cedar cyanide wheels on a wagon yeah that was the
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worst dude it was yeah it was terminal it was like having uh fleas like within your like roost yeah
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yeah that's so brutal it's a fox in a chicken coop situation so they just go wild but it's built in
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imagine you get fresh cedar wagon wheels and they have cyanide in them and they're like people
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You're like, yeah, it's the best we have right now.
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If you want to go take the route through the Sierra Nevadas,
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you're going to have to get this before the fall comes, like the Donner party.
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But you just had to do what you had to do for your family back then.
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I mean, now you would have a Jeffrey Dahmer would have a footwear, you know.
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Yeah, well, Charles Bukowski should be sold to a rich family as a midwife.
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That is just what the prison industrial complex is.
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to the state of Alabama that I'm happy we could bring up.
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There's a documentary called The Alabama Problem.
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which is what they're going to do for our nuclear families, too.
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It's like when this – oh, JCPenney closed its doors there.
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Have you kept in touch with a lot of the people from Austin still, or did you kind of like
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take like a break from the communication there like um um no i still talked i had to go back in
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may and i did my last um show at creek and cave and creek's always been really great to me so
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i um i'm going back on the first of uh well i'm going back soon there's a special event i don't
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want to spoil it but i'm going back um so yeah i talked to a lot of my really good friends from
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mothership you know we were all door guys together so um i chat with them on the phone and yeah part
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of like um changing my life and i have no qualms in saying this but i'm sober and i and that's a
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part of my life and um part of that for me just means being um there for my friends so like every
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day i'll like call a friend and stuff that i would do i guess when i was younger in the pre-social
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media age you know so i'll call people and feel like all these kids are on their fucking phones
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now yeah i think that's popular sure um but but not nobody calls anymore i agree you know what
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that's a good thought sometimes i've i've certainly gotten away from texting and i'd rather to send a
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voice note i think that's better at least if you can kind of get a feel what's going on and even
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then like i will enjoy a call and i think honestly some people appreciate it it's like yeah and i
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think you just have to establish if you want like hey that's where i'm at in my life i want to hear
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my friend's voice you know like i want to know i want to have have some semblance just in what
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they're saying or how their energy is as to how they're really feeling because that's what that's
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what we're based on you can't pick it up through text it's pretty much impossible so no and that
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that's just a little bit of the tuning of the dial it's like where we're at where the future's
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taking us it feels kind of scary yeah some of that is lost yeah yeah i feel like i operated better
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as a person before technology got too bonkers because I used to like to daydream even though
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a lot of it had dangerous Voldemortian people in there like even though there was like a lot of
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pillaging of our home in a lot of my daydreams it was still like it was a chance for my mind
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to rattle on a little yeah so my mind didn't always feel like it was so attached to me I did
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Frederick Douglass would show up at some of my daydreams.
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To let you know the type of energy that was there.
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It was like the Crucible kind of meets McDonald's kind of.
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So if Grimace was like judge, jury, and executioner, which he often is in so many of our afterlives,
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Grimace is like a tulpa and he's like an amalgamation,
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Yeah, he's like a figurehead for like this demigod we know as St. Michael.
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And when he lets you in, it is just a big pool of creamy chili sauce.
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I know I've prayed to him before for new condiments.
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but dude this is where we're heading people don't want to look at the signs that like
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there are children who go to bed and you'll wake up in the morning and they'll piss the perfect
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shape of grimace into their sheets like moms are like oh that's nothing it's just 100 nights in a
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row of that like yeah nobody's connecting the dots of where we're going no like that you piss
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the Shroud of Turin like you pissed a perfect exact golem of things come to pass dude yeah
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I know they cracked some kid open and he had 11 scenes from the Patriot with Mel Gibson inside
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of him it's like Heath Ledger yeah I know it yeah well it was my understanding it was just
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the Gibson scenes so there was no Heath Ledger which is like okay what is this the director's
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cut so what is this and then he just screamed aim small miss small and disappeared into the ether
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it's just where we are um you mentioned what do you want to say no i'm just kind of just like
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coming to terms with some of that because it is it's an absolute you know and my will like my
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will's greater than myself you know i have a higher purpose and some of that is grimace like
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how the greater than or less than signs worked
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I'm not even trying to get into some of that stuff.
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And it's weird if I'm willing to give you a pass,
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It was in a perfect world when Tolstoy was kicking around with Dostoyevsky.
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It was, dude, when Downton Abbey was doing their shit, when that shit was popping.
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When they, oh, my God, me and my boys, we would sit down every downtown and Abbey Tuesday.
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Yeah, just to be grandfathered into the butler trade would be such a blessing.
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And the butler comes walking and he's like, Gregory's gay, you know?
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It's weird to see him like that, not sleeping, standing up in a closet.
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Well, he was a stunt double in a lot of coffins.
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And people don't give him any credit, you know?
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He looks like the guy who did the Wilhelm Scream.
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which is this scream they use in like a million different movies.
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I think he's the guy who does that special, special scream
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If Beale Street could talk, it would sound like that.
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So, yeah, that guy did that, and then I guess he had to go to court
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So that scream, they're calling it the scream of hope.
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So it was one of the first famous scream of hope.
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Well, it's like, you know how South Africa used Rodriguez and his albums to fight against apartheid?
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Yeah, I remember in Tyler Perry's Mandela Goes to Jail, I think.
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I mean, let's put it where it belongs in our heads.
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Who goes on the streets and he's like, you think this guy's gay, man?
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This is one of the best things that's ever happened, I think.
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And it just goes to show how men are obsessed with pointing the 11th finger at each other.
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They're making a call to the bullpen, but nobody's showing up.
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He rides around Austin on a little scooter sometimes
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Dude, hands-free, pro-union, ripping a heater.
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He's got a thousand-yard stare that's staring into the future of American society.
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I have never seen something like this in person
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So on the fateful day when I saw the most quintessential 2018 Austin photo
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This is just some fucking Overwatch addict
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This is like pictures taken moments before tragedy.
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I mean, well, actually, he's fine, so it's not.
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No, and we don't have to, and I don't do talismanic magic.
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It's my understanding, neither does Elijah Woods, so.
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I saw you had a little thing, a bag of hair or whatever.
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So if anyone, while I'm talking to them, says, like, hey, a big clump of your hair just fell out.
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First of all, thanks for holding space for that.
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So, yeah, it allows me to kind of, like, keep my hairline, like, how I want it.
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And I think if someone mails you their hair and you care for it.
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It's like having a son who's bald as a baby like Caillou or like Franklin the Turtle.
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And then just getting a big old glob of mush and just smooch it on top of that freaking think tank.
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Not one of the ones that like sinking or has like shit floating on it or whatever that Netflix keeps advertising.
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We were on there and we had Halloween but we didn't have any costume store.
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That nigga got this little like gay outfit on like it's Halloween and shit like what the fuck you trying to do nigga?
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is that john jones who is this that's bones jones is that indiana john jones dude who the
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fuck is that george jones jones that's good yeah that's uh pretty cool that was a cool outfit i'd
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like to get to a place in comfortability and metaphysical wellness where i could wear a chain
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around my neck with a lock on it yeah i think you could do it dude i think i could pull it off i
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used to paint my nails and then i would go to rehab like a week later it happened several times
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in my adult life i would paint my nails like you know twirling my hair talking on a corded phone
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like paint my nails and then i'd wake up like a couple days later and i was like i need help
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yeah i was like i'm being fashion forward but i am turning the clock back
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oh you're a fucking just a little leap year you were yeah i'm a leap year baby i have
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benjamin button's disease but i'm right in the middle between young and old so i'm normal
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brutal um so sobriety so you did you uh can i ask you something about it how's it been um was
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there like a a point that you got was it like drinking was it or was it just like you were
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just feeling like disconnected from your own life and and congrats on uh having the wherewithal to
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like try something new, like even just to be like, okay, I've been in Austin. This is what's going
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on. I'm going to try something new. It's some, it's so hard to come to that conclusion for some
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of us. Yeah. Well, um, I've struggled with those things since I was a kid and I would have long
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stretches of sobriety. Um, when I was younger, it would be alcohol. And then, um, where I grew up in
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georgia um it was i was in high school during like the purdue pharmaceuticals like that all
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that stuff oh really um so a lot of my friends um got addicted to like oxycontin and stuff like that
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um so yeah so like that i was exposed to um drug use like that when i was younger so um off and on
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and mostly i would sometimes go back to it when i couldn't deal with pressure you know there's a lot
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of excuses for things like that um but yeah it had gotten to a point where i no longer wanted
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to do comedy i no longer wanted to really do anything i just felt like almost not like i had
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wasted my life because i love what i do and i i really like getting to meet people and i love
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making people happy but it got to be too much when coupled with um a habit that i had developed
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of various drugs and alcohol and things like that.
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Right, so you got to that point, something has to change.
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Yeah, I had resigned myself to the idea of a certain death
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It would have been, I looked at it at that point
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Like I had gone past the point of anyone being able to help me
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I realized that that's not what I wanted at all.
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What I really wanted was to figure out a better way to live.
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That I really just wanted to have some peace in my life
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was not being given to me by drugs and alcohol.
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And by, yeah, I've been able to cut so much guff out of my life,
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And I'm able to look around today, and I know that I don't have any – I don't live in shame about my life.
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I don't do – I don't say things to things – I don't say things to people I don't mean.
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I can – it's basically – it was soccer ball-based.
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So I looked around, and I was like, you know what?
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and then I caught a glimpse of myself in the mirror
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and I said, you're in no condition to kick a soccer ball.
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I think it'll be sustained if I continue to work on myself.
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I know it's not like a thing that is a congrats thing, but when you think about our world to take a break from anything and make a commitment to take a break from something and do it, it's tough.
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There's so many ways to get addicted to distract ourselves from us.
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It's a diseased thinking of I'm constantly – because, you know, I can do all kinds of things.
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I would do these things that on paper seem like a lesser thing
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And they are, but it's all just a symptom of a greater,
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and I want instant thrills that are followed by continuing to chase that thing.
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It's so funny because it will give you, and this is not a bit, heaven forbid I do a bit,
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but it'll be like, congratulation, congribitibus, you've won, you've been awarded dollar.
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Like you won a dollar, like a singular Judeo-Christian dollar.
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It takes for, and you're like, fuck, dude, if I would have just called it in a way, even
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like just fucking taking a call on a phone and ask them for $2, I would have made more
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And then you're like, press B, and then it's $1.47.
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Yeah, and it's like, oh, you've won the deceased sibling round.
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I mean, that's going to be in our freaking textbooks one of these days.
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You're going to have to go to The Wynn or Encore,
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or you're going to have to go to Dragon's Beard
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or whatever the casinos will be named in, you know,
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or faggots realm or whatever they're called, right?
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You're going to have to go to some of these places.
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You're going to have to go to the Circus of Life.
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Or Trump's Nuts or whatever the casinos are going to be called.
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You're going to have to go there in the Biden's Oculus, right?
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You're going to have to go there and they'll be like, you know,
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get four spins and you'll see your father, you know?
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You will use your social credit score to go have a round of spins
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and you will be lucky to walk out with a talisman.
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And I always just think it's so funny how they'll be like,
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gar, gar, gar, gar, gar, you've awarded the pig some hooves,
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and then they'll just, like, print you out one U.S. dollar.
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I'm gonna go to a meeting probably whenever I get done with this today
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No, it was at a sober living in Nashville at 11.30.
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But at a very base level, what I can say is that I have never, ever walked out of one feeling worse than I was walking in.
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I will always, even if there's two other people in there, and I've been to plenty of things like that, newer meetings or smaller towns,
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and then I was like oh well when I was a kid I didn't there wasn't like a place that was safe
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where I could speak up right like at our house you couldn't speak up nobody cared how you felt
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there wasn't even I didn't even know I had any feelings except that I wasn't feeling good sure
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and it was like nobody and that was our whole like system at home yeah and so like sometimes
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when I go in there it's like well this is a place that's safe enough where I can speak up even if I
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don't know exactly what I'm gonna say or how exactly I feel it gives me like a little bit
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a space to explore it so it's almost like sometimes I feel like I'm it's almost like the kid me or the
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younger me that's in there that's kind of like I mean it's an adult me but it kind of like um it
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helps me honor a little bit of that like here's this younger me that never got to speak up so
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in here today I'm going to sit here with you and we're going to you know I'm saying we're going to
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speak up for ourselves yeah that that is really beautiful I can definitely um identify with some
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of those um sentiments from feeling like a bit voiceless when i was younger yeah it is it's so
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nice to anytime i'll try to like prepare something smart to say it'll be like you're a bumble you're
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a troglodyte like i'm a mute i'm a mute deaf speechless but i'm like it's summer's summer's
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hard and they're like what are you not even who are you what are you and why the big three um
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dude when somebody will share something in there and that you've been wanting to say your whole
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life or here yeah and you'll finally hear it or or and you're like oh i feel like a part of me
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like will almost like the locks will like turn yeah and a new door will open yeah you feel like
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a weight has been lit i can't even describe how it feels like really get involved in that stuff
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and um it's so crazy it makes you feel like you know i'm of the belief that the universe is all
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mental and it unfolds just for us you know how can it not our live experiences are designated
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and interpreted solely for us and when i'm in there almost every time something will happen
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that's so kismet or a synchronicity and you'll hear something you were just thinking about
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or something that's upcoming you've been worried about and you're like what are the odds of that
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and it happens almost every day where you're like i'm on the right path you know when you do the
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right things you get the right things it might be the things you want but the things that you need
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at least and the little things you hear in there man yeah the little things like uh contrary action
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like a lot of times i won't want it if i don't want to do something unless it's for like a reason
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where there's like safety concern or something like that then i need to consider trying to go
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do it like i don't really need to do this yoga i don't really need to go and like walk over to my
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neighbors and drop this off just so it's because there's a darker part of me that wants me to be
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by myself that wants me to stay like isolated and sit and think and ponder about everything
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and and just learning those things and eventually i have to learn things a lot right yeah i have to
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learn things a lot it's like my forgetter is really big it's like it's almost like when i
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wake up in the morning it's like there's a part of me that's forgotten if people care about me
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that's forgotten if i care about me you know it's not exact but there's a lot of like somebody
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comes in almost at night and cleans like the dry erase boards you know i need to be reminded that
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i matter and at a bigger level other people matter more than me yes yeah other people
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matters you know i was the i was the main actor in my life for so long and it was all how things
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were affecting me and what i was doing and it's so nice to yeah just genuinely give a shit about
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other people dude some of the my best moments are my moments are my favorites or if i wake up
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and my thought my first thought about somebody else it's almost like god thank you or if i'm
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just driving i have to remember something somebody had said yesterday like oh i'm gonna call them
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and check them on them about that or something somebody cared about and i was like oh let me
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see how that played out for them the more those i get like the better it feels um yeah because
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we're meant we're meant to have community in my mind does the same thing it'll it's so much easier
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there's a million other things i could be doing for an hour and a day than doing that but when
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i'm alone if i make an excuse like that i'll make another excuse you know yes and i'll make another
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excuse and it may not lead to drug use but it definitely will lead to me having a sadder life
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and at the very least i don't want that yeah yeah that's that's so and it's like i just remember
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people care about me i'll walk into a meeting and i'm like oh yeah yeah dude i remember and it's not
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that i forgot him or anything but it's just like i have to have this thing replenished yeah that's
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like yes your heart works you work you're okay things are okay there might be problems but they're
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not that big and everything's going to be okay it's almost like you just like i don't know it's
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like it definitely is like church some people are like do you go to church and it's like i don't go
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to church every week but in a way i go to church four or five times a week yeah you know and you
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feel it and you feel it yeah like i walk out of there i'm like okay if i'm like i mean there's
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some days when it's rough if somebody's sitting on their phone next to me the whole meeting dude
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there's a kid running around god forbid oh a little christmas kid you can tell it's like a
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new year's eve baby yeah and he's like my birthday's coming up or whatever and i'm like no it's not
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no it's not we're in july i can tell you're a new year's eve baby get the hell out of here
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what your holiday spirit is yeah um but no man i think that community is great what do you think
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if there's somebody who's scared to try to go to a first meeting you know i'll have friends that'll
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ask me sometimes about like or what do you say to somebody who's thinking like maybe i might be
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struggling with this you know sure um well something that i go back to is that it's just so
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nice to be around people who i i you know there's a saying uh the saying of uh terminal uniqueness
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that we think that we're so different in our suffering,
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But everything you've been through has meaning.
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but it doesn't really have that much helpful meaning to you.
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The things that you've gone through that are really bad,
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like being around people who also hurt that way,
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it's just an incredible feeling it's not a chore it's not something you have to go do
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it's something i look forward to doing yeah because it's so nice to look around and go oh
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my god i'm not this little freak yeah i'm not this little guy that god forgot you know i'm
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someone that has purpose even if it's just for today i can have a purpose of hanging out with
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these people and i know that when i'm in there i feel better just for even if it's just for that
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hour even if i leave and i get back and i feel like shit again and i'm going a little crazy and
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I'm riffing a little too hard about the wrong things in my little brain.
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Like, and I hate to use that term, but it's, you know, places like that are just, it's
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Sometimes some people are like, hey, do we come do this?
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You know, I don't know if I'm driving over to meet you at a Whataburger or something,
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you know, just because they're popping off because it's new or whatever and the seats
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But you were like, hey, you want to drive 20 minutes across town to go to like this 1130 a.m. like meeting?
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It's going to be mostly older folks in this church.
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You're like, I don't know if that's what happened.
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He goes, when my arm's crying, I got to feed it.
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don't come on my back and tell me it's raining
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when I was trying to get my life together again
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is just the simple thought that I don't have to live like that.
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Like, whatever is making me feel like my life is,
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Either I'm, you know, I'm working too much
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and to know i don't ever have to feel like that again because i know that i'm in control of my
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emotions now and it's so great i like to let yourself have peace it's so hard it's like the
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hardest thing in life yeah why is it hard i don't know that's such a fascinating statement i have
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never said like that to let yourself have peace yeah like i don't want to let myself have peace
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man it's like or i don't know if i don't think or i'm not saying i don't but it's like that would
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be the like yeah i don't do i not deserve like what is that i don't know if it's something just
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the way that we're wired where because that's it that's some of the wiring is right there why
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wouldn't i let myself have peace i have friends that are that like and i've struggled i've had
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some tough years over you know over the years for sure and uh but i've had some friends that uh
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won't won't won't get close to it you know yeah well try to get close to the fire they want to
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just keep keep trying to do it what's familiar it's familiar and there's a thing of like i'll
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figure this out you know i'm saying like yes it like i've gotten myself this far right and the
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world feels like you i don't know when i was a younger i put a chip on my shoulder like the
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world was an enemy yeah and i'm gonna figure this out and watch me and then the worst part is if you
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have some successes in your life or things that go kind of your way it's hard to realize that like
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something you know yeah because then you feel like oh well i'm doing i'll figure this out too
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yeah because i did this for myself i i uprooted myself i made this happen but then also i've made
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a lot of the bad things in my life you know drinking tuss walking down the road having a
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little slip and slide oh karmically speaking i'm a karmic patsy i'm a i'm a charlatan of redemption
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Because, yeah, it's like no one really helped me
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No one, you know, I slept in my car for a long time.
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So, when we're able to turn that into something that is working, of course, I think we're apt to believe, like, oh, I'll turn this around, too, by myself.
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That's just, you know, we both know that's not the case.
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I'm amazed at the willpower sometimes of people that struggle.
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Like, I have friends whose parents are out on the streets or have been struggling for 20, 30 years, you know.
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And, uh, and I'm sure some of them, like some of them even asked me, why do you think they
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said what's going, you know, it's like, I don't know, but you just try to talk with
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And it's just the willpower of, of some, of, of alcohol or of people that are in recovery
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Or then sometimes I bet you just get, uh, you built, you just get trapped in shame and
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then you just want to stay away from your life because you feel like i don't want to go around
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these people because i'll only make things worse for them that's got to be kind of a crazy trap
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yeah that you're too far gone and you're like radioactive yeah it's heartbreaking yeah definitely
01:29:15.780
but that people you feel like people will be better off without you which is such a dangerous
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thought that is never ever ever ever true yeah yeah it's never true yeah um you've you've uh
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you've talked about the occult a lot right and i feel like you've gone around the up and down
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those realms you reference you low-key your closet occult people say okay occult adjacent
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no i've read about all kinds of religions and stuff so sometimes i'll throw i'll throw some
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buzzwords out there i do like will you do that i'll throw some buzzies i'll do a little buzz i'll
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catch in a little in a little fly you're the oral hersheiser of throwing buzzwords oh yeah
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pitchers before you were born. Dude, when I was a kid, like,
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the best pitcher was kind of an old white dude.
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Him and Walker Bueller actually look alike, but from
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Buffalo, New York, man, he's a legend, but he was a legend when I was growing up, you know,
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it was just like a white guy that was able to do it. And then things got Latino and just more
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diverse. But what I was going to ask you, yeah, where do you feel like we're at spiritually as
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a people right now? Do you feel like we're in a tough spot? Do you see a different future for us?
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Like, what do you really see having somebody who like kind of is willing to kind of massage the
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crystal ball of different realms that is a interesting question and uh uh happy to be here
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but it it that's that's difficult i think for me as part of uh a better life that i've tried to live
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um yeah i love reading about different kinds of uh positive philosophy from antiquity so you know
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stoicism marcus aurelius um up through different i've had different times in my life where i was
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a more or less a believer of existential nihilism, that life had no purpose, that we were put into
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this world simply from a dying God, sort of a Gnostic worldview of we don't have any purpose
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because we will ultimately die, right? So in doing so, the end justifies the means in the sense of
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whatever we end up doing, it does not serve any sort of greater good. But I believe the opposite
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of that today. I think as human beings, and these thoughts are sort of a mishmash of various
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other things, mostly the tenets of hermeticism and some sort of a cabal, cabala, not cabalic,
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not like a cult, but the universe is always in motion and we're a part of the universe, right?
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So I know that my life serves a greater good today. And I also know that I can be a driving
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force in my life while also knowing that I can only drive so far. So all I can choose to do
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is, as they say, the right-hand path of doing the right thing and the next right thing. And
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if I do do something wrong to a friend, small things. The mistakes I make today are smaller.
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I can be snippy. I can be rude. I can be not emotionally available. I can immediately act
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to correct that, right? So it's some iteration of karma and some iteration of the understanding
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and to know that we're worth more than we'll be given.
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the meaning of life is just, it's the small things.
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It's to mean something in a moment by moment basis
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and to do things without the purpose of distraction.
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so it's so much easier you know we've both struggled with drugs and alcohol to
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to turn that knob off but i'm gonna have to wake up again tomorrow and that's the thing about like
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developing a drug habit is like i would always be so furious when i would wake up oh my god i have
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to do this again i can't believe i have to do this again but i'm of the belief that we were
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all created so the universe can understand itself you know so i'm simply a a cog in a in such a
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greater machine of i only exist because at the end of my timeline i served some greater purpose
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you know for the creator of the universe whatever you want to call that um and who do you hope it
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is like say if it is like a and i think that's beautifully put dude i really do that's pretty
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cool man you're eloquent speaker you're going to be a great uh screenwriter thank you for saying
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yeah it's going to be exciting man i admire the fact that you're willing to to do something that
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you want to do right like i think it's easy to get trapped in like there's popularity here there's
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some money here there's reward there's like ego reward here but is this really like what i really
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want to do like sometimes i really want to just focus on learning spanish and be a writer right
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some of those those are things that i think right that gives me self-worth right and but then you
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get caught in different things and sometimes they're blessings and it's great paths and stuff
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But it's like, yeah, do we reward like that, you know, do we reward that thing inside of us that also we, that was the reason maybe we started out wanting to be creative.
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Like sometimes you'll get on such a path that you never get back to those things sometimes.
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Yeah, it's been so nice to bring it back to comedy in any capacity, to do things just for fun, to go do an open mic at like a hot dog stand.
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and then when you get caught up in all the numbers
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I needed to cut down some of these egotistical parts of my life
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Bill Paxton, an American actor who was in Aliens and Frailty.
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Just famed character actor Bill Paxton, who did have leading man potential
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and was sometimes given the option to exercise that.
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Yeah, I think they were doing like a dual surgery or something.
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Oh, it's probably one of those new – because I know that insurance is offering if you both get surgery on the same day with someone you don't know.
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Yeah, it's half as much for twice the people, so.
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It's a new – and they're doing that new drive-by surgery where some guy just reaches out of like a – yeah.
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there's a lot of great offers coming from the gods above
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alleging the doctor used an unnecessary unconventional
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aka cedars cyanide a lot of people call it which is another and they are coming out with a yogurt
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i've heard so that's good we are doing squatters rights on that riff we are here to cut the ribbon
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on that riff um before you go casey uh the riffs you are you're there's you're you're a different
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instrument man you're a different instrument how do you best set yourself up for the ability to
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riff do you have to do a certain sequence of events before you go on like and not to put a
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lot of pressure on yourself but have you noticed certain things lead to better tuning for yourself
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as an instrument oh that's a good question um without giving away my entire process which i
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am not even capable of replicating which really gets me in a bind when i can't even do my own act
01:38:07.120
and i'm the one who does it yikes i like to do i like to have some tent poles so i'll go out there
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like in a circumstance that does not call for it
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for the rest of this hour will feel like how that just felt.
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So that allows me to just sort of peel the mask off
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and then do a big Scooby-Doo reveal of me to myself in the mirror.
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And then I do a quick wink, and I will have some tent poles.
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So I'll try to do three jokes that I know I'm going to tell.
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So before I go up and I do my hour, I'll look at,
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And then from there, hopefully I've gotten about 10 to 20 laughs at this point.
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And if you extrapolate, let's say the room's 500, which is bigger than rooms that I do.
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Let's say in a perfect world, I'm headlining 500 seaters.
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If I get 10 laughs out of 500, I go, ooh, I only got 490 to go.
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So that, I'll do a couple jokes up top, and that'll give me the confidence I need to string it all together.
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But, you know, we're – but I have like 1,000 half-sentence jokes, so if I ever lose my train of thought, I'll just like hit them with – I'll just do a quick stinky.
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You're like an Easter basket that has matches in it, dude.
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uh it's just yeah there's something just so charming about about your presentation of yourself
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thanks for saying that it's the truth thanks i hope you feel that in a in a place where we need
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to feel things that are important and not but i just think like yeah i don't know i don't mean
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that because i'm saying that to you but i just think yeah there's a um i don't know it's a great
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thing to watch you're a great thing to watch casey rocket thanks me and my friends watched
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no offense on netflix you're special oh thanks right when i started comedy and it was very
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formative for me and i thought it was so funny and i'd never seen anything like it so i really
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appreciate you saying that thanks man well you bet dude i'm glad that we've been able to
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communicate man hope we can do it more um i think i'm gonna try to come out there tonight you should
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come riff or at least come hang out you don't have to riff but come hang out it'll be so fun
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I think I'm going to go it because I think it's probably what I need to do
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But maybe I can find a 6 or maybe I can go to one after
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Casey Rocket, you got some tour dates coming up?
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One thing I want to plug, I have an hour of my stand-up on my Patreon.
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It's $6, and all the money goes to harm reduction programs in Chicago.
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So community outreach, clean needles, harm reduction,
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all kinds of good stuff that helps people get help people get the help that they need so yeah
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my patreon's on there and um if you feel like doing that just know that all that money goes
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to charity so yeah that's awesome man um congrats on all the success dude thanks for talking with
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us we had liberty township what were some of the other ones let me just rattle them off real quick
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columbus ohio i love being in ohio dude st petersburg florida ashville north carolina have
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Peel yet, but I've been to Asheville. It's so cool.
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And before you go, I just want to get this note in for viewers.
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No, the Jasper Mall in Jasper, Alabama has not officially closed.
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It is still operating, though, in a very reduced and dead mall state.
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Dead mall state, that's what's going to happen when the nuclear family collapses.
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Not to be confused with dead mall five, actually, who I think is still doing well.
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Yeah, I think that's one of Marshmallow's aliases.
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it's like dead mouse yeah he's in the he's what do they call it the marshmallow extended universe
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so yes oh my god face reveal okay spoiler alert didn't know that was him i hope he's doing good
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anyway um cool man dude thank you so much for your time have a great show tonight i'm gonna come up
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there and uh i'll figure it out when i get up there yeah i wouldn't have it any other way and
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i'll say one more thing yeah for sure um there's more to life than riffs but there's not more to
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