This Past Weekend with Theo Von - #688 - Candace Owens

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00:00:30.000 She's an investigator, a media personality, and a seeker of truth.

00:00:36.000 Her namesake show on YouTube is immensely popular.

00:00:40.500 She's here.

00:00:41.440 She's pregnant with her fifth child.

00:00:44.460 She's my friend.

00:00:46.100 I'm grateful for our time with today's guest, Miss Candace Owens.

00:00:50.560 you look good

00:01:06.320 yeah i think so i mean i don't want to hit but you can't say no you can't say the other thing

00:01:12.340 well i can't yeah you couldn't be like no you don't look good and people be like wow

00:01:16.020 that was aggressive well you can't also be like yeah you look good like it's like

00:01:20.060 when someone is pregnant it's a weird time to associate with them sometimes because it feels

00:01:25.900 like well yeah how do they look you know what's going on and what do you say that's supportive

00:01:32.940 but what do you also like because you also have to shut down any like sort of like you know you

00:01:38.500 can't be flirtatious not that i'd be flirtatious because i know so i don't mean like that but

00:01:42.300 like any energy that's like would you normally have that energy towards someone that was pregnant

00:01:47.160 No, I don't think so.

00:01:48.560 I think, I don't know what I'm talking about.

00:01:51.320 Let's have her check your makeup.

00:01:52.680 Does she look okay for you?

00:01:53.580 Just so you know, the first thing you said to me when you walked in the door for dinner,

00:01:57.020 I don't know how, a couple months ago, you were like, I forgot you were pregnant, you weirdo.

00:02:02.000 Did I really?

00:02:02.900 Yeah, that's your pregnancy greeting.

00:02:04.660 There we go.

00:02:05.380 It works.

00:02:06.240 It actually does kind of work.

00:02:07.440 Yeah, that's a good one.

00:02:08.520 Well, I remember, actually, this is true.

00:02:10.360 I walked into your kitchen.

00:02:13.400 This was like, maybe like a month, a couple weeks ago.

00:02:15.740 and there was some lady from behind

00:02:17.900 who was like making something on the counter or something

00:02:20.800 and I was like oh dang

00:02:22.520 they got a little thicky in here

00:02:23.760 they got a little lady from Atlanta working over here

00:02:26.720 and then I didn't

00:02:27.920 I forgot you were pregnant and he turned around

00:02:29.880 and it was me?

00:02:30.760 and it was you

00:02:31.660 I didn't even hear you say that

00:02:33.260 no I didn't say it out loud

00:02:35.200 you said it in your head

00:02:36.300 and now you said it out loud

00:02:38.940 but I meant like they got a little shawty working in here

00:02:41.880 or they had a woman that was just a little more Ruben-esque

00:02:44.680 Yeah, that's a good word.

00:02:46.060 You know?

00:02:46.980 Rubenesque.

00:02:47.660 That's what I meant.

00:02:48.580 They had a woman that's a little more Rubenesque, and I was like, oh, dang, they got a little mommy working in here.

00:02:53.780 A little mommy.

00:02:54.620 And then there we are.

00:02:56.280 I know.

00:02:56.840 And I was right.

00:02:58.000 I know.

00:02:58.340 I'm here because I feel like this is going to be good luck, and then I'll have the baby because last time I did your podcast, I feel like the baby came right after.

00:03:05.060 Really?

00:03:05.340 I did you, and I did Tim Dillon, and then the baby came.

00:03:08.240 So now I think it's like a ritual.

00:03:09.800 I'm going to do you, and then I'm going to do Tim Dillon, and then the baby will come.

00:03:14.140 yeah yeah well look yeah i hope we're good luck somehow i think if the baby hears us talking it's

00:03:19.700 like i gotta get out there and help this lady you know things are things have gone downhill oh my

00:03:24.440 god i can't believe i'm about to have the fifth i know dude it's crazy i've been in a permanent

00:03:29.080 state of pregnancy i don't think people respect that enough like i'm basically a queen aunt you

00:03:34.800 do not act like someone who's pregnant i'll say that that's what i think that's part of it to me

00:03:39.360 anyway you may act like that around other folks but i think i never get this kind of like i you

00:03:45.980 know like you're like crawling across the floor like barely getting to no but that's the problem

00:03:50.320 i'm gonna start doing that because i feel like people will have to be nicer to me if i start

00:03:54.840 pretending i'm in a state you know yeah people are people so mean on the internet i feel like if i'm

00:04:00.480 just of course they're so oh yeah what am i talking about i feel like if i if i that's why

00:04:05.600 I'm not good at asking people questions.

00:04:07.780 People are always like, dude, you asked.

00:04:09.220 It's a lovely place, the internet.

00:04:10.860 And I feel like, I'm like, how are you doing this to me?

00:04:12.880 I'm so pregnant right now.

00:04:14.300 But I feel like if I lean into the pregnancy and I pretend to be more miserable and like I can't do it, then people will have to be nice.

00:04:21.940 So I'm going to try that for these next three weeks.

00:04:24.960 Oh.

00:04:25.560 A little bit more pathetic.

00:04:26.780 Oh, yeah.

00:04:27.740 Because you don't do pathetic well.

00:04:29.600 I know.

00:04:30.320 You don't do it.

00:04:31.340 You're just still going and cruising.

00:04:33.020 you forget that you're pregnant where some people kind of lead with the pregnancy you know

00:04:37.140 um but yes people are rude yeah people are like oh that's not even a baby that's a data center

00:04:43.520 some people have said that she's got yeah like wait i haven't seen this part of the internet

00:04:49.260 now you have to tell me no i saw somebody it's like dude she's not even pregnant she's just

00:04:53.880 building a data they're building a data center in her womb or whatever just like crazy what yeah

00:04:59.580 I actually feel like I go down every rabbit hole, but I have not gone down the rabbit hole where there are data centers in your womb.

00:05:06.260 It's new stuff, Candice.

00:05:07.320 They're doing new stuff.

00:05:08.500 Look, that's when we start to be out of touch.

00:05:10.360 That's when you're like, oh, I can't even.

00:05:12.060 I can't follow this.

00:05:13.520 I'm out of touch.

00:05:14.180 There are some conspiracies I have to say.

00:05:16.040 And I love conspiracies like every rabbit hole.

00:05:18.540 You know, I'm down there.

00:05:19.740 But there are some where I'm just like, how did you get here?

00:05:22.900 And that would probably be one where I'm like, what do you mean I'm carrying a data center in my womb?

00:05:26.900 yeah it's just a router for the government or people are like she's yeah she's just she's like

00:05:32.120 transporting data for rush like people will say all kinds of stuff like she's like website are

00:05:37.140 you on she's a data mule or whatever these aren't even kids it's just like you know it's so crazy

00:05:42.580 i don't think i've ever seen that one i've seen people who say that i'm not pregnant pregnant and

00:05:47.040 they're not my kids and stuff like that oh really i think that happens i never post them everyone's

00:05:52.020 doing the thing where they post their kids and their kids are turned into a product and then

00:05:55.860 they're taking these impossible family pictures they're impossible when you have a certain amount

00:06:00.400 of kids you can't get like the nice perfect family shot and i think because i don't give

00:06:05.300 them enough of the personal life it kind of makes them a bit fantastical so they sort of write

00:06:10.400 the myth the mythology yeah of the kids they don't really know what they look like they don't

00:06:16.260 know anything about my kids so do you do that on purpose yeah for sure i mean everybody i'm not

00:06:21.960 judging people's style or whatever but i personally just feel like that's a big decision to make for

00:06:27.940 your kid and it's actually skylar was showing me was it you showed me the clip yesterday

00:06:32.640 of like somebody it was obviously a comedic sketch but it was just like a kid walking around

00:06:38.520 the mall with his parents and random strangers are like happy fourth birthday and like saying

00:06:44.240 their name and know all these random facts like hope he did good at the soccer game and the four

00:06:48.300 year old's like looking up at them like how do you know this information and that's kind of my

00:06:51.780 mentality where it's just it's strangers knowing a lot about your children and being able to

00:06:58.560 recognize them and know them i feel like that's a lot for us that we just it's not i think it's

00:07:04.400 something that we want to do it's probably not healthy yeah but that i never said i haven't

00:07:08.200 seen that bit can you do you have it trevin do you see that yeah it's it's actually really

00:07:12.560 interesting and i was like i couldn't articulate how i felt about it but when i saw the clip i was

00:07:18.400 I was like, this is exactly how I feel about kids on the Internet.

00:07:22.420 Oh, yeah, that's it.

00:07:23.400 That was fast.

00:07:24.620 Hi, Ava.

00:07:26.420 Do you know that one?

00:07:30.740 Where would she know him from?

00:07:32.480 Happy birthday, Ava.

00:07:34.180 Eight already?

00:07:35.080 Look like you did a ball with your friends.

00:07:41.100 Ah, I see you're back playing football Thursdays, Ava.

00:07:44.340 Hope your dad picks you up on time for once.

00:07:48.400 That's great.

00:07:49.800 Every time you share their life online, you risk sharing their personal data with the world.

00:07:56.300 That is pretty true.

00:07:57.660 That's kind of how I feel about it.

00:07:59.540 Yeah.

00:08:00.500 It's just kind of a lot of information and kids don't understand.

00:08:03.880 And my kids don't even understand what I do.

00:08:05.480 Yeah.

00:08:05.740 And just now, Georgie started to like ask questions when people come up to me and ask for a picture.

00:08:12.620 And he's like, how do you know that person?

00:08:14.740 And I just say, oh, this is a friend from school or, you know, whatever.

00:08:17.680 And don't really address it because I don't need to right now at his age.

00:08:20.760 But, yeah, I kind of want to protect that for a little bit.

00:08:24.200 And we don't know how it's going to end, especially when you see people whose kids are a part of the product.

00:08:30.460 You know what I'm saying?

00:08:31.100 And they get to the age and they're part of the product.

00:08:32.960 I'm sure in their minds they're like, well, we're making a living off of this.

00:08:36.580 So it's good for our kids.

00:08:37.940 We're making money.

00:08:38.520 But I also do think about how is it shaping their minds?

00:08:41.960 Do they become more attention seeking?

00:08:43.760 Are they already thinking, do I have likes?

00:08:46.940 How many people like this?

00:08:48.180 Am I reading the comments?

00:08:49.760 So I don't think we know the effects of how kids that are being raised on the internet.

00:08:55.840 I was saying we pioneered it.

00:08:57.620 Like we did not have the internet, so we were lucky.

00:09:00.020 Our parents had a beeper.

00:09:02.540 And then we were.

00:09:03.500 Yeah, when we went off, it meant your dad was using usually.

00:09:08.020 And that was it.

00:09:09.800 Actually, my dad was just working at the hospital.

00:09:11.660 But, you know.

00:09:11.960 He was?

00:09:12.500 Yeah.

00:09:12.700 different strokes for different folks yeah he had to get into the get in for a shift

00:09:17.520 yeah i mean different yeah different things but for sure yeah i can't even fathom like

00:09:24.560 and how things are going to affect us it's like man it's really scary to think of how some of

00:09:28.960 these things are going to affect us yeah we don't know yeah and i feel like the kids that have the

00:09:32.700 most access to it just looking at the hollywood demonstration i mean those kids are not they're

00:09:39.000 not looking their best they don't look tip-top a lot of their kids are just going through a lot

00:09:42.940 right now and you feel bad i mean you feel really bad for them because they grew up with a lot of

00:09:47.060 attention so i don't think it's good to replicate it and get kids on the internet but i mean it does

00:09:51.660 almost starts to seem like a disease in a way like i think for some of those people like even

00:09:55.600 if you look at britney spears she's out here like she's out there spinning with those knives and

00:09:59.580 shit in front of her fireplace all the time like what's going on and everybody's just like oh love

00:10:03.740 your first album like what are you talking about this lady's not doing good no Britney Spears I

00:10:10.000 feel so bad for because obviously I grew up with Britney Spears you had to pick a side yeah look

00:10:15.640 at this and we act but this gets normal sorry to interrupt you Candace but this starts to get

00:10:20.320 normal oh yeah she just who normalized that she's just gonna Julie in something in a few minutes

00:10:26.160 and so she's just getting ready she's obviously got a new job as a sous chef or whatever and the

00:10:30.800 dogs are begging for help there's one video where somebody decodes the dogs the shapes they're

00:10:35.580 making they're trying to make letters spelling out help in the background oh i feel so bad for her

00:10:40.320 because she is an example of what like she probably never needed to go into the conservatorship and

00:10:46.480 then she never really came out of it because they were forced drugging her they were you can't come

00:10:51.200 back from lithium like they yeah they burned they they burned her brain like it's like melted her

00:10:57.380 brain with lithium. It's crazy what they did to her. And honestly, people should be in prison.

00:11:01.580 They should absolutely be in prison. And I feel like it's a part of the broader story

00:11:04.720 that a lot of artists were trying to tell, like from Michael Jackson to Kanye to Britney Spears,

00:11:11.260 like some Justin Bieber even was talking, you know, what's actually manifesting in Hollywood.

00:11:15.840 And some of these people did not survive it. I mean, Michael Jackson didn't survive it. I don't

00:11:19.660 think Britney Spears is ever going to be the Britney Spears that we grew up with, which is

00:11:23.300 super sad because I think she was a sweet girl and she they just used her I mean the industries

00:11:27.640 we're now learning how disgusting Hollywood is but I think Justin Bieber made it out and I think

00:11:32.840 Kanye made it out gratefully but yeah I think she went through a lot of dark stuff and even that

00:11:40.540 though I wouldn't even let my kids be in a commercial now that I'm an adult like obviously

00:11:45.460 when I was young I'm like this is so cool like these are all these teeny bopper stars and then

00:11:50.680 sync and backstreet boys or whatever it was but now that we're adults i just can't imagine giving

00:11:56.980 my children to like the mickey mouse club and letting them it's weird in retrospect it's weird

00:12:03.820 so you wonder who were the adults that were in charge because i was the same age as these people

00:12:07.200 it was normal you guys were adults let's let's look up this lithium thing really quick let me

00:12:12.220 see she testified that she was immediately placed on lithium lithium in her june 2021 address to a

00:12:18.180 los angeles court britney uh spears stated she was immediately placed on lithium a potent

00:12:23.600 medication typically used for bipolar disorder or severe depression she described the side effects

00:12:27.360 as making her feel drunk and numb stating that it impaired her ability to converse or stand up for

00:12:32.040 herself that's she was on it for years so you should if you look into some of the scientific

00:12:39.620 studies on what lithium does to your brain over that amount of time that's why i say it's not

00:12:44.400 something that you can just bounce back from i would pray that she could but that's definitely

00:12:50.120 what's going on she was drugged against her will that's so scary the concept of being drugged

00:12:54.280 against your will and then for a judge to say this can just keep happening permanently for

00:12:59.260 how many years was she in the conservatorship and everyone's like it's for the best and when

00:13:03.840 you actually reflect on what she was going through she probably just needed to take a break i don't

00:13:08.200 know go to a secluded island where there's no paparazzi take some rest you know she was basically

00:13:14.580 begging people to leave her alone and nobody would under her legal conservatorship for 13

00:13:18.600 years and nine months god 13 years of your life where you have to but who was in charge of that

00:13:25.540 well was it a hodgepodge of people apparently i think it was that woman who needs to be looked

00:13:33.100 into for sure who was working with britney spears's father taylor is the name i'm thinking of

00:13:39.460 because there's a lot about that woman she's another calvary chapel lou taylor lou taylor

00:13:47.280 lou taylor yeah i haven't gotten too deep into the lou taylor conspiracies but there's definitely

00:13:53.740 something there about and it's interesting because you know who i spoke to this is one of the craziest

00:14:00.260 stories that came together but basically russell brand introduced me via text to courtney love

00:14:06.140 a few years ago and she sent me all of this stuff she was just it was like a ton of messages ton

00:14:11.680 of messages and at the time i didn't know what she was speaking about that like i because i didn't

00:14:15.680 grow up in hollywood and she was basically explaining to me that there was sort of a mafia

00:14:21.640 that when they want your publishing rights they'll go after you they never want people to like have

00:14:26.260 their own publishing rights that's what michael jackson was fighting sony he wanted it and he was

00:14:29.660 winning by the way he was he owned the beatles catalog so then what they do is they send out like

00:14:34.660 mafia press hits against you it's kind of like what i'm going through right now but it's just

00:14:38.940 kind of failing because we live in a different time but they essentially will then try to present

00:14:42.880 you as a drug addict or and then they'll follow you and have hot like paparazzi everywhere you go

00:14:47.240 and so maybe you're just doing this and they're like theo's like in a crisis he's like pink eye

00:14:52.900 or whatever yes yeah he's on a bender like he's been going down on strangers or whatever right

00:14:58.040 exactly exactly and so imagine every single day every you can't walk out of this room and there's

00:15:03.820 just people that are waiting there and then these people basically have a mental breakdown you start

00:15:07.920 to go crazy what happened to kanye it's yeah they keep calling you crazy calling you crazy

00:15:11.680 so you think that whole thing is a design thing well when she said it and she was talking about

00:15:16.040 she was like you got to look into the mormon mafia she's like lou taylor and she said a bunch of

00:15:19.840 stuff allegedly allegedly allegedly i'm recapping a conversation so the conversation itself is not

00:15:23.700 allegedly. And she was like, but this is a publishing rights mafia. And they, you know,

00:15:28.840 she was talking to me about Kurt Cobain and like, it's all about ownership. She's like,

00:15:33.920 you are not allowed to own anything. So then when you start to examine these cases independently

00:15:38.060 of Michael Jackson, Kanye West, I haven't looked too much into Britney Spears, but I should,

00:15:42.920 cause you know me, I got to go down every rabbit hole. Um, Justin Bieber. Oh yeah. You're the

00:15:47.180 chocolate rabbit. I got to go down every, every rabbit hole. I mean, you've got to, yeah, I will

00:15:52.440 eventually run for its money for real you're probably america's most popular chocolate i'm

00:15:58.300 genuinely down every single rabbit hole i can't stop like when people give me a tip and i'm like

00:16:02.640 okay chasing chasing but uh yeah britney spears and then justin bieber even recently where they

00:16:09.040 were really hounding and trying to make us think he was having a mental break what was he trying

00:16:13.060 to do just get out of his contracts yeah he just wanted to go back to being the kid on youtube with

00:16:16.940 his and that's what he's doing now and it's so cool that he's just all i need is my guitar and

00:16:21.880 my voice i don't he sold his whole catalog he just wanted out wow so it's cool yeah that is that is

00:16:28.220 an interesting rabbit hole because it is i think people don't realize sometimes and i believe that

00:16:33.280 it is this mafia in hollywood it's like the publicist it's all this like this um kind of

00:16:39.740 teeter-totter where they're just like one is like you do this and then we'll do and then it's all

00:16:43.940 this system right it's all this it's like a huge piece of racketeering going on it is and it's also

00:16:49.080 book publishing rights and podcasts now it's obviously a new space or whatever but they're

00:16:54.040 constantly like worried about who's going to actually own this catalog when you're gone

00:16:58.000 because once they own it they also can delete it they can edit it there's so many things that they

00:17:01.440 can do with your music well music being used to influence things too like that's another thing

00:17:05.680 it's just like okay when we have these influential tools to be able to um kind of put them into the

00:17:11.420 masses in certain ways at certain times um i was uh yeah because britney i mean it's just like i

00:17:17.760 I mean, they turned her into a damn Donatello out there, the freaking Ninja Turtle.

00:17:20.860 I mean, she's out here every other week.

00:17:22.100 She has a different weapon.

00:17:23.320 She's spinning around.

00:17:24.660 Yeah, it's sad.

00:17:25.580 It's so sad if you go back and watch her.

00:17:28.560 She's like a damn Slap Chop over there.

00:17:30.240 No, it's crazy.

00:17:31.600 Yeah, they turned her into a damn Smeg blender or whatever.

00:17:33.960 I mean, she's out here.

00:17:34.940 And the whole thing was like, you know, we had to do this to protect her.

00:17:38.180 We had to put her on a conservatorship because she was spending her money.

00:17:40.820 It's her money.

00:17:41.760 Genuinely, if you make $10 million and you want to irresponsibly spend it all,

00:17:47.040 that that's actually kind of your right you don't need to put somebody in a conservatorship to

00:17:50.180 you have a right to go broke is anybody put in a conservatorship when they lose all their money

00:17:54.160 in vegas or if you get yeah that's your money you earned it you have a right to lose it it's like

00:17:58.580 what are you talking about judge decides you're not responsible enough same thing with wendy

00:18:02.340 williams i don't know what's going on with that but she's been somebody took her it's her bank

00:18:06.800 it was kind of scary i was like we need to go back to a cash society because could you imagine

00:18:10.480 your bank calling and being like your money is mine because that's what happened to wendy williams

00:18:15.840 Well, that's what happened to Kanye too, wasn't it?

00:18:17.420 Didn't his bank freeze?

00:18:18.260 He got debanked.

00:18:19.280 He got debanked.

00:18:19.960 How do you even get that?

00:18:21.000 They just send you a letter and they're like, sorry, we don't like your views.

00:18:25.960 That made me go local.

00:18:27.980 I did.

00:18:28.440 Like I saw what happened.

00:18:29.660 It was wild.

00:18:30.780 Like, how are you sending letters?

00:18:31.980 Just like, hey, Theo, I saw episode 279 and we're debanking you.

00:18:38.540 I'm like, okay, the banks have got too much power.

00:18:40.320 Yeah, man.

00:18:40.720 You lost your ATM privileges for this week.

00:18:42.980 That's how it'll be.

00:18:44.080 For this past weekend.

00:18:45.080 Yeah.

00:18:45.280 Yeah, for this past weekend, you're cooked.

00:18:48.400 So when I started seeing that, I was like, okay.

00:18:50.760 So we pulled out of the big banks and sort of went local.

00:18:54.500 Going local for everything is better.

00:18:56.340 I 10 out of 10 would recommend everyone goes local for their food, for their banking.

00:19:00.760 Knowing who these people are as human beings I think really matters.

00:19:04.080 And who was it that got debanked and it kind of sent a chill up our spine?

00:19:07.400 And we were like, let's just leave them before they leave us because I'm not considered to be uncontroversial.

00:19:14.080 controversial so if we're heading in that direction that's just china though credit score system i

00:19:19.080 feel like that's where we're treading if you debank someone based on an opinion or a belief

00:19:24.120 that's effectively a credit score system so like a like almost a social credit social credit yeah

00:19:28.980 that's like that black mirror episode that was um do you remember that one that was so good black

00:19:33.480 mirror freaked me out really i think it's why i'm so paranoid about a lot of this stuff even what

00:19:40.000 we're talking about with kids on technology because i watched every episode of black mirror

00:19:44.020 and black people you got pissed about it too remember they're like oh a mirror is fine but

00:19:47.960 it's a black mirror and shit's all fucked up you know i didn't even remember that there was a lot

00:19:53.100 of people online like that oh everything fine with a regular mirror but people pull up with

00:19:57.720 a black mirror and now shit's gone bad yeah i think they just meant the screens are black i know

00:20:03.100 that's hilarious i'm sure that because i feel like that kind of came out when there was a lot

00:20:06.920 of that going on people were looking to be offended but that was a that episode was scary

00:20:11.480 the best and she had to like be nice to somebody and then this and then her score was down and

00:20:16.000 that's how she felt about herself that's the scariest part is when the score goes down yeah

00:20:20.500 uh black mirror becomes reality with china's social scoring what's the episode called can

00:20:25.200 you get me that nosedive it's called yes black mirror wikipedia that was so good are we far from

00:20:31.660 that though i think we're we're i think we are literally in it and we just don't know we are

00:20:36.820 obviously in it that's what i think one thousand percent and that's they that's when you see these

00:20:41.380 like mobs descend and that's what cancel culture is all about that's actually trying to develop a

00:20:45.820 social credit score like you can't perform in this arena because you said this you can't do this you

00:20:51.600 can't do that you can't partake in society because we disagree with you and then it gets even scarier

00:20:56.780 because at least she had minor offenses in the episode,

00:20:59.760 if I remember correctly.

00:21:01.080 Like, it could be anything who you were hanging out with.

00:21:03.480 But now it's even scarier

00:21:06.140 because you can get canceled for doing the right thing.

00:21:09.240 Like, they can dip your credit score

00:21:11.080 for doing social credit score for doing the right thing.

00:21:13.680 Like, speaking up about something?

00:21:15.060 Like, if somebody speaks up, then they can see.

00:21:16.400 About Gaza.

00:21:16.940 Right.

00:21:17.240 And then suddenly, you can't play the stadium

00:21:19.180 like we just saw last week.

00:21:20.900 Yeah.

00:21:21.600 So think about that,

00:21:22.680 where it's basically saying you have to be a bad person

00:21:26.680 to partake in society and i think that's what we've been going through kind of for like the

00:21:29.660 last three years yeah i mean at least i have i don't know if that's a personal story but well

00:21:34.080 and we can get into some of it i mean and it well i do it's tricky and so you have to think like

00:21:39.500 well one is like yeah i think i've even mentioned this to you before it's like

00:21:43.280 like you have to start to find new ways to put your money certain places that's the only thing

00:21:49.080 to affect change it's like where do you where do you put your money right because it's like

00:21:52.540 we have to find like almost new systems of um of everything right you have to find like a whole

00:21:58.740 new way like a whole new place to put your money because as long as they um like kind of these

00:22:04.360 larger bodies these bigger entities black rock these bigger things own everything you just and

00:22:08.720 we keep having to pay them for everything you know it's almost a gift to create this new capitalism

00:22:13.540 or go back to like a smaller structure or something you know i don't know like when you're

00:22:17.320 just trading with your neighbors yeah yeah i should have i should have brought you over some

00:22:20.860 lettuce today or some tomatoes yeah and we could just trade it oh yeah i could trade you yeah i

00:22:26.760 think i have some fresh uh i think i have some fresh basil or something like in a something

00:22:31.740 that a woman gave me when she left me or whatever but i do have um yeah i think i have some basil

00:22:36.360 i could trade you for that data center you've got in your nosey can i just prod a woman left you

00:22:41.100 some basil just like a little i wish things had worked out a little plant pot with a little basil

00:22:46.060 in it. A little thing

00:22:47.960 like that. Like a breakup basil?

00:22:50.140 Yeah, breakup basil.

00:22:52.880 That's fantastic.

00:22:54.500 Dude, that's a great idea.

00:22:55.800 That's fantastic. I love this

00:22:58.020 girl. Actually,

00:23:00.000 I think I met this girl. Breakup

00:23:01.940 basil. Did I meet her? Oh, no, you didn't.

00:23:04.300 That was just a friend. Okay. Yeah, that

00:23:05.940 came to the... Yeah, that's okay.

00:23:08.720 Where did we go to the... The

00:23:09.880 farmer's market. Farmer's market. And she was looking for

00:23:12.060 a... She was looking for something.

00:23:13.920 She wasn't looking for me, I know that.

00:23:16.060 I walked around with her for about two hours, and they didn't get a sense of that.

00:23:19.180 No, but that was just my friend.

00:23:20.640 That was someone I was trying to see if it could be like a coworker.

00:23:24.060 Yeah, I like Breakup Basil.

00:23:25.500 That's sweet.

00:23:26.260 That Breakup Basil, bye.

00:23:29.560 It's an oregano from me.

00:23:31.920 Oregano from me, dog.

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00:26:12.580 yeah the antithesis to some of this all of this stuff i think is like having a family right having

00:26:19.500 something that means something to you i think that's like the because we've always operated

00:26:24.880 under like

00:26:25.480 the world has always operated under

00:26:28.760 dark systems right it always has

00:26:31.060 right yeah yeah and so

00:26:32.920 that's yeah I mean I love seeing your kids your kids

00:26:34.900 are freaking hilarious they love you

00:26:36.580 they are they love you

00:26:38.840 you walk through the door they just light up they just

00:26:40.840 dude I freaking light up

00:26:42.440 you have to have kids because you're just meant to be

00:26:44.860 a dad they are well thank you

00:26:46.680 they're so funny

00:26:48.760 they're very funny they're very entertaining

00:26:50.640 they're smart and they're very confident

00:26:52.940 our kids so they'll just kind of go right

00:26:54.840 up to you and speak to you oh that's a good point and i think that is partially because we abstain

00:26:58.960 from the technology and you just need to go actually communicate and speak and oh yeah

00:27:04.000 obviously i'm not one that's ever at a loss for words so i'm over communicative with them about

00:27:08.380 everything but they are very funny they're just very funny yeah they just adore you oh that's

00:27:13.720 cool yeah i'll tell other people they're like oh yeah candace oh like dude she has the best kids

00:27:18.780 and like dude why are you talking about this lady's kids bro chill i'm like they're my friends

00:27:23.940 Okay.

00:27:25.120 In your defense, they are your friends.

00:27:27.480 They absolutely love you so much.

00:27:29.360 That's a good point.

00:27:29.780 It is fun.

00:27:30.400 I mean, that's why I was like, you have to be a dad because you're just, you just.

00:27:33.620 They're fun.

00:27:34.220 The vibes are just there.

00:27:35.380 You're just meant to be a dad.

00:27:36.300 You got to have a lot of kids.

00:27:37.960 I know.

00:27:38.380 You'd be great with boys too because I have so many boys and the energy of boys is just

00:27:41.800 on another level.

00:27:42.720 I got to get a batch going.

00:27:44.120 Yeah.

00:27:44.620 Something's going to happen.

00:27:45.420 I can feel it.

00:27:46.340 It's in the, I can feel it in the air.

00:27:48.340 Just got to keep rocking.

00:27:49.660 I get people that hit me up the whole time on Instagram, like trying to slide into your

00:27:52.340 DMs.

00:27:52.760 Really?

00:27:53.260 Yeah, it's crazy.

00:27:54.220 Well, shoot, the slides open.

00:27:55.020 No, there's a lot of people that are trying to date you all over the internet.

00:27:58.700 Like, girls love you.

00:28:00.340 What the heck?

00:28:01.040 Yes.

00:28:01.300 Where are they?

00:28:02.180 There's a lot of them.

00:28:03.160 I get, like, text messages.

00:28:04.600 I get Instagram stuff.

00:28:05.960 They are just all about you right now.

00:28:08.600 God.

00:28:08.980 You're in your prime.

00:28:09.880 You got to go out there.

00:28:10.780 I got to get out there, then.

00:28:11.700 Yeah, you got to find yourself.

00:28:12.540 You got to get out there.

00:28:13.320 Shit, I was going to take a nap later.

00:28:14.540 I'm not now.

00:28:15.640 I'm going to keep getting on my bike.

00:28:18.400 I'm going to freaking bike around town a little bit.

00:28:20.480 I just got a new eight-speed.

00:28:21.880 Yeah.

00:28:22.200 It was supposed to be a 10-speed, but it's from China.

00:28:24.480 So it's like, fuck, you lose two speeds in the mail or whatever.

00:28:27.760 It's just like, that's where, you know, these Trump tariffs or whatever.

00:28:31.340 It's like, you don't even get all 10-speed.

00:28:33.360 We can't get anything in this economy right now.

00:28:35.960 Yeah, your kids are funny, though, dude.

00:28:37.680 Yeah, and I'm all, like, what did one of my buddies say?

00:28:41.280 I was like, oh, yeah, she's got the best kids.

00:28:42.820 And they're like, oh, do they ever play, like, pin the tail on whoever killed Charlie Kirk?

00:28:48.300 Yeah, they're naturally exploring things.

00:28:52.200 investigative yeah yeah they're just walking around with like um a little magnifying glass

00:28:56.900 you know let me see your fingerprints it's what it is interesting to see which qualities the kids

00:29:04.380 get you just never know what you're going to get i don't know it's just that's the interesting

00:29:08.120 thing about kids it's the same two humans can just create a different kid you just would expect

00:29:12.500 it's just going to be you're dropping the same kid over and over but they're just all so different

00:29:17.840 that's what's fascinating when do you start to notice like what the difference is right

00:29:22.100 away in the womb really this one coming crazy he's out of control oh my god he's out of control

00:29:28.440 yeah what is it and were you noticing something is it because like you're like have you been

00:29:32.480 having like a special sauce or something like are you doing certain condiments or something

00:29:35.680 that could be flaring him up no he just they are who they are in the womb and i've been right about

00:29:40.440 all their personalities louise we could not get a picture of she was sleeping throughout the whole

00:29:45.200 thing she you know she kind of runs the place she's tricky she knows what's going on and then

00:29:49.720 And her brothers are all different.

00:29:51.740 Maxie was the chillest in the womb.

00:29:56.080 He's pretty gentle kind of in a weird way.

00:29:57.820 Yeah, he's like sweet.

00:29:58.920 Yeah.

00:29:59.260 You know, he's so sweet.

00:30:00.880 And he's like, he's my sweet kid.

00:30:02.040 He was sweet in the womb.

00:30:03.320 He'll be excited if you're going to like throw him on the couch.

00:30:05.280 But he also wants to do it very softly and kind of like make sure it's going to be in a comfortable manner.

00:30:09.760 Yes, exactly.

00:30:10.740 That's exactly Maxie.

00:30:11.980 It's pretty cool.

00:30:12.840 Unless Georgie and they all want to be like Georgie.

00:30:14.720 Georgie is just the natural leader of the kids.

00:30:16.740 And he loves rules.

00:30:18.580 I mean every single one of my appointments and the ultrasound they'd be like look up he'd be like

00:30:24.820 man this person really loves this little guy really loves a rule oh wait he could hear him

00:30:30.600 in the ultrasound no but it felt like it because he was just because they're trying to get certain

00:30:34.620 shots during an ultrasound so they want to check like their spine heart whatever it is and sometimes

00:30:38.800 you just can't get a picture like Louise forget it she just was not here for it she never let

00:30:42.600 them do anything she's in her own world but Georgie was just like on the money he hit every

00:30:47.720 single mark in terms of here's the range he is perfect perfect perfect for height length width

00:30:53.020 whatever and that's how he is Georgie is just the it's all about the rules you tell him a rule it

00:30:58.660 will be followed so you got to be careful if you tell him a rule because then if you catch yourself

00:31:02.340 outside of the bounds of the rules the rules come back the rules come back I mean rules aren't even

00:31:07.500 rules he'll tell me his dad's gone for two days and he'll just be like you know daddy doesn't like

00:31:11.360 when that lamp's on I'm a grown woman I turn this lamp on when your dad's not here

00:31:16.440 dad doesn't like this

00:31:19.320 so he's his

00:31:20.660 I always say

00:31:21.080 he's George's mini

00:31:22.780 it's really sweet

00:31:23.780 oh it's cute

00:31:24.700 that's what's fun

00:31:25.400 so you gotta get yourself a litter

00:31:26.780 I can find you a girl

00:31:28.040 what's your type

00:31:29.180 I feel like I know your type

00:31:30.520 I can get a freaking

00:31:31.460 I think I can get a woman

00:31:32.600 it's just been like

00:31:33.500 a little bit tricky

00:31:34.360 because now you have

00:31:35.580 exposure

00:31:36.280 I don't know

00:31:37.920 I don't try to date

00:31:38.680 like fancy girls really

00:31:39.940 like you know like

00:31:40.880 what's my type

00:31:42.240 let me think

00:31:42.780 I don't know

00:31:43.880 I mean a woman

00:31:46.060 for sure. And good

00:31:48.140 woman. Glad we clarified

00:31:50.280 that. Kind eyes. Has to be able

00:31:52.080 to be a good mom. That's going to be, that's pretty

00:31:53.860 paramount.

00:31:56.220 Okay, when you say kind eyes,

00:31:58.180 give me an example of someone who has not

00:32:00.120 kind eyes.

00:32:01.740 Well, we both know what example I'm going to use.

00:32:04.140 I actually wasn't setting that up.

00:32:06.560 I mean,

00:32:08.700 we both

00:32:10.060 know. She who must not be

00:32:11.960 named. She who

00:32:14.020 must not be named.

00:32:16.060 Do you think

00:32:19.540 She's a Halloween costume

00:32:23.320 Of a woman

00:32:24.160 It's so funny

00:32:27.100 Because I wasn't going in that direction

00:32:28.480 And as soon as it came out

00:32:30.160 She must not be named

00:32:31.080 That's so crazy

00:32:33.180 Maybe I should

00:32:34.120 The fact that the whole world knows

00:32:37.600 What we're talking about

00:32:38.800 Who cannot be named

00:32:40.160 Everybody's fucking

00:32:41.920 Everything's insane dude

00:32:43.660 The world has gone insane

00:32:45.500 and it's a perfect time for halloween it is because if we're already living it people are

00:32:51.800 like what do you mean it's halloween it's fucking halloween every day every day every single day

00:32:57.520 you're going what is going on i just want some director to yell cut i know like i hope we are

00:33:04.460 living in a matrix and the director can just like yell cut yeah and then they just give you and it

00:33:09.800 all shuts down you know like your wife's like all right i gotta get i'm out yeah you know she's like

00:33:15.520 gotta be home in 10 minutes you're like where's your home like people it all shuts down like

00:33:19.220 truman's like it just yeah that'd be kind of nice i'd be okay with it if they were just kidding the

00:33:23.120 whole last year we're just running this experiment you know we're just evil billionaires and we're

00:33:26.360 running experiment everything's chill because the other alternative is terrifying if this is all

00:33:31.480 real and you know what it is we're just kind of getting to a point now where we know they're lying

00:33:37.620 you know what i'm saying and they're still doing it so we just go where is this gonna go

00:33:42.180 we know you're full of it we know you're lying it's you can't gaslight to this extreme and the

00:33:49.200 whole world is aware of it and and not have something happen yes but what is it gonna be

00:33:54.400 at some inflection point right well netanyahu's up there yesterday like he's talking about hassan

00:33:59.540 pike or you know he's talking about like people on the internet like you're on the like it just

00:34:04.360 yeah it's all become dude you just you just committed genocide in broad daylight and now

00:34:08.600 you're at the white house like lecturing us about what's right and what's wrong and what laws need

00:34:12.560 to be passed this is wild this is a wild update right now it's a wild update wild update and

00:34:18.940 they're like macklemore get out of the stadium bb come to the white house come to the white house

00:34:25.540 this is like mordor 1712 the update or something like it's a great like this is a crazy update it

00:34:30.940 Maybe that's what it is.

00:34:32.020 It's just like an iOS update right now.

00:34:34.360 I think you're right.

00:34:34.840 And there's some bugs that need to be faced.

00:34:38.180 Yeah, Nanyahu's running around with his own Starlink.

00:34:41.160 This is the Starlink.

00:34:43.280 The children dead.

00:34:45.960 He can't even smile.

00:34:47.580 That's the scariest thing about that guy.

00:34:49.720 The way he lies and he can't be human.

00:34:53.540 I don't think he's a human.

00:34:54.340 I don't think he is either.

00:34:55.360 If he is a human, I think that's the saddest thing about him

00:34:59.200 is that human people are like how could something like this happen one of us be like this yeah but

00:35:06.120 then so he must not be he must be some aberration or maybe because i never looked into it but i i

00:35:11.540 could believe automatically the reptile thing because i just like that must be a reptile like

00:35:15.620 that's just because the snake of some description yeah that i don't know is wearing a costume

00:35:20.420 because there's no way you can be this person but what's scarier than him because we can just

00:35:24.740 accept he's evil and insane and deranged and has never been told no in his life. But then it's the

00:35:29.620 people that we kind of thought were human, who then just rally around him, people that we worked

00:35:34.800 with, our colleagues, maybe podcasts we listened to. And we just maybe in the back of our mind,

00:35:39.100 we're like, okay, obviously, if push comes to shove, this person, spy or disagreements,

00:35:43.220 if the whole genocide happens, or a Holocaust happens, this person's obviously going to be

00:35:47.720 on the good side. And then you're going, oh, no, wait, what's happening? Now I have to realize

00:35:52.200 that there's all these other people

00:35:53.420 who are trying to convince me

00:35:54.460 this is okay

00:35:55.100 and then you go

00:35:56.080 how long have these

00:35:57.000 people been walking amongst us

00:35:58.880 yeah

00:35:59.260 these are like the white walkers

00:36:00.560 in Game of Thrones

00:36:01.200 like there was something

00:36:03.080 we didn't even know

00:36:04.080 yes

00:36:04.480 they were being transformed

00:36:05.260 they're just like

00:36:06.120 now they're all like

00:36:07.080 marching

00:36:08.120 and it's a terrible

00:36:09.680 season finale

00:36:10.660 because even Game of Thrones

00:36:11.640 didn't know what to do

00:36:12.480 yeah

00:36:12.720 they hit the inflection point

00:36:14.200 yeah they really did

00:36:15.240 just peaced out

00:36:16.240 like oh shit

00:36:16.820 we kind of started this

00:36:17.640 don't even know how to end it

00:36:18.500 it's a terrible ending

00:36:19.740 yeah yeah dude

00:36:21.100 but I

00:36:21.660 It is at this point where it's like now the White Walkers are walking and they've just been walking for something like, when do we stop walking?

00:36:26.480 Like, what do we even do?

00:36:28.160 Seven seasons of us walking.

00:36:29.480 I know.

00:36:29.760 And we know it's bad and it's dreadful, but they didn't really know how to end it.

00:36:32.460 So.

00:36:32.780 I think that's what, yeah, that's what's going on here.

00:36:34.420 It's just like, I think they don't know how this plays out.

00:36:37.560 Yeah, I don't know how it plays out.

00:36:39.000 Unless they put everybody under like severe control very fast.

00:36:43.880 I think that's probably what they would be thinking, I would bet.

00:36:47.980 You know, if you start to let everybody know what's going on.

00:36:50.380 Like with the data centers?

00:36:51.660 Yeah, either the cameras or whatever, but you have to be able to just control everybody really quick, you know, then because once people, you know.

00:36:58.360 COVID was the test for that, I think.

00:36:59.860 Oh, yeah.

00:37:00.600 And we failed it.

00:37:01.460 I didn't.

00:37:02.080 I didn't either, but we did as a group.

00:37:04.020 Yeah, as a, yeah, as humanity, as a group.

00:37:06.700 I did not fail.

00:37:08.000 I didn't.

00:37:08.740 Was it a group project, though?

00:37:10.480 Was it a group project or was it an individual project?

00:37:12.780 We should talk about that.

00:37:13.780 That's a good question.

00:37:14.500 That's important to reflect upon.

00:37:15.460 Was COVID a group project?

00:37:17.540 Yes.

00:37:18.180 And we did fail the assignment.

00:37:19.300 You're right.

00:37:19.600 As a group, we did.

00:37:20.680 but I was the person in the group that got it was like guys right carrying the group right

00:37:26.640 instantly yeah they said I was crazy that I was gonna get grandma killed yeah grandma's gonna die

00:37:33.140 like you're like and meanwhile they have to like we have to visit their grandmother like

00:37:38.760 they have to visit her in a field from like 200 yards away they're like using a megaphone and

00:37:43.780 shit they're like we love you and she's like my legs are itching or whatever they can't even

00:37:48.820 fucking hear each other terrible she's getting bit up by chiggers and stuff in a field because

00:37:52.700 she's like that's where they have to have her or whatever and they let grandma die alone and the

00:37:57.920 whole thing was crazy funerals people were on zoom funerals dude my buddy clicked over funerals

00:38:03.260 shout out to anybody who was on a zoom funeral hold on can we just have a moment of silence

00:38:09.280 for like for the people that went to a zoom funeral because that is just yeah yeah no i

00:38:16.500 can't believe i forgot about this i attended a zoom wedding did yes it was my sister's wedding

00:38:22.220 i forgot it's such a a trauma has just been unlocked i'm about to start crying i forgot

00:38:27.020 about this yes my sister she had to she had to have a zoom wedding it's crazy

00:38:33.740 wow yeah because they just said she couldn't yeah you know that was it and so they wanted

00:38:41.520 to get married they already had plans to get married so they just had someone recording we

00:38:45.540 just all hopped on zoom that's not right no it's horrible dude well dude i went to a zoom funeral

00:38:53.300 it was a black funeral too dude and it was like everybody started beefing because everyone to

00:38:57.780 play their own music at their own house for the funeral or whatever like so some people were

00:39:02.620 playing like you know like boys to men like can we go back and some people were playing like what

00:39:08.040 you talking with you know like so it's just people had and so like people started like music beefing

00:39:14.300 at this um it was like an urban zoom funeral oh my gosh and then the guy's up there and he didn't

00:39:18.920 even have he forgot to turn the speaker on his shit you're like what is even it's like grandma's

00:39:23.560 going home and we can't even fucking this is terrible i forgot i forgot we all lived through

00:39:27.780 this we all have unlocked trauma from covid we got a dr fauci needs to go to prison i mean this

00:39:33.540 is crazy now that we're all here and realizing and he's not he's coming out with a new pasta

00:39:37.280 sauce somebody said the pasta sauce of course can you look that up is is is is it fauci with

00:39:42.780 the sauce for real can somebody tell me is it fauci with the sauce yeah it's i think he has a

00:39:47.680 new pasta i plead the fifth is it called i plead the fifth it's called co-vodka

00:39:51.700 it's a new italian it's a co-vodka sauce no it's it's not it's not if you liked covid you'll love

00:40:00.720 co-vodka this this uh and it has a booster and it has also a booster that's that they were

00:40:07.260 discussing that they're like people are vaccine hesitant so we're just going to start putting in

00:40:11.600 the vegetables and it'll naturally just like we're just going to give it to you and lettuce

00:40:15.700 yeah i also don't like and i haven't looked into it but you know i'm a vibe person that whole

00:40:21.780 the entire announcement that trump made about we're gonna get beef from argentina i was like

00:40:26.240 nope yeah nope stamp the beef with argentina i'm not buying it because that's something like

00:40:31.620 why do you need immediate beef from someplace that where the the like uh rulings of how they

00:40:38.200 can process it and stuff are probably different probably safer even though no buy from american

00:40:42.440 farmers it's the one thing that people can do is a little more expensive yes it is and i get that

00:40:47.020 that's hard but you know you and i always talk offline about like what are the little changes

00:40:50.880 that we can encourage people to make and that's a huge one like getting to know who your farmers are

00:40:54.800 and doing whatever you can to support them and trying to avoid but definitively i can tell you

00:41:01.320 whatever is going on with that argentina beef something's not right oh that i think they're

00:41:05.540 They're going to give us more parasites or something.

00:41:07.460 Something is not right with that beef.

00:41:09.660 I think they could have been launching something new into the community

00:41:13.160 because that Tina beef be hit and cut.

00:41:15.880 I mean, the Tina beef is going to have parasites.

00:41:19.100 That's my assumption.

00:41:20.240 That Tina beef got people in my mind.

00:41:21.680 It's going to have parasites because I think we're waking up too fast

00:41:24.460 and they got to just get parasites in our stomach as fast as possible.

00:41:28.240 I know.

00:41:28.660 Or something.

00:41:29.280 It's going to be a long Halloween, dude.

00:41:30.600 It was random.

00:41:31.160 Such a random announcement.

00:41:32.360 It was.

00:41:32.480 Like, here's what I'm doing.

00:41:33.140 we got three thousand hundred thousand tons of argentina it's gonna be cheaper yeah it's gonna

00:41:40.120 be cheaper i'm happy to spend a little more money on my beef actually yeah i want american beef

00:41:45.460 yeah i'll just fast yeah i'm saying i'll do something but yeah when you think when you

00:41:50.260 kind of step outside and look at it you're like yes something's wrong here this isn't

00:41:54.640 yeah like what's wrong here just woke up on a random tuesday and just decided argentina beef

00:41:59.200 I was, nah, I'm okay.

00:42:00.900 And it's such a reverse in everything that he was doing during the first term.

00:42:04.260 Yeah, what do you think happened there?

00:42:05.360 What do you think really happened?

00:42:06.240 Do you think that he was a, like, well, there was always alleged that he had, like, he's

00:42:10.460 had, like, a pass that was definitely splotchy, right?

00:42:15.040 But that's every American, really.

00:42:16.880 Absolutely, it was splotchy.

00:42:17.720 That's every American.

00:42:18.540 Right.

00:42:19.220 And there was something even almost relatable about that.

00:42:21.800 Right.

00:42:22.460 Then.

00:42:22.740 People thought he was going to be, there was going to be a possibility there, right?

00:42:26.060 Like, oh, this is – yeah, this is a guy who was on a TV show who – like he's at least in this realm, in this rich realm, right?

00:42:36.180 He's always been looked at as kind of a loser in that realm maybe by those people unless it's financially based.

00:42:42.460 He's always kind of – it seemed like he'd always been kind of made fun of as an adult.

00:42:45.500 Do you think so?

00:42:46.540 Yeah.

00:42:46.980 I mean I think we all just thought he was going to –

00:42:51.060 Yeah, what did we think?

00:42:52.120 Blue collar, you know.

00:42:53.560 he spoke like a regular person and i think we thought that he was going to sort of enact

00:42:59.080 common sense policies definitely definitely was going to be anti-war yeah and then 2.0 just hit

00:43:07.460 different i think what happened was the epstein files really yeah i mean look he took 300 million

00:43:12.040 from miriam adelson at least now we know how much it costs to buy a presidency so we can all aspire

00:43:17.880 to that if we've got 300 million sitting in the bank we can just buy a presidency yeah right and

00:43:22.540 And beyond that, I think the Epstein files are problematic.

00:43:26.940 I mean, when Pam Bondi said that if they release all the files, she said something along the lines, if they release all the files, it would crush the global economy.

00:43:37.400 That's a pretty strong statement.

00:43:40.060 And I want to make sure I get that right.

00:43:41.320 You can look that up.

00:43:42.700 Pam Bondi says that if we prosecute everyone in the Epstein files, the whole system will collapse.

00:43:47.100 Fuck.

00:43:47.540 And by the way, I feel like that's kind of what we want.

00:43:50.940 So that seems aspirational.

00:43:52.540 but you have to wonder what's in there

00:43:54.480 and I think we don't really need to wonder

00:43:56.440 we know what's in there

00:43:57.260 so it's just global trafficking

00:43:59.380 elites, everyone blackmailed

00:44:01.960 every politician blackmailed

00:44:03.300 all over the world

00:44:04.220 the kid stuff is a component of it

00:44:07.840 weapons, trafficking, everything

00:44:09.740 that's what's in the Epstein files

00:44:12.020 it's like this Pandora's box

00:44:13.380 and the Truman Show people

00:44:14.820 the White Walkers as well

00:44:16.660 who they're just MKUltra-ing

00:44:19.740 and are just in these positions

00:44:21.080 I mean, that was kind of the wildest part of the Brigitte lawsuit was I said one flyaway comment of Brigitte McCrone was born at the beginning of on the date that MKUltra became a program.

00:44:33.960 And they mentioned it like 12 times in the lawsuit.

00:44:36.840 I was like, this is a weird sensitivity.

00:44:38.780 Why are you so sensitive about someone mentioning MKUltra?

00:44:41.300 And I do think that a lot of these people are hypnotized and they're traumatized from their youth.

00:44:48.320 And they are literal white walkers among us.

00:44:52.060 And then they're kind of put into these positions of power, not based on a meritocracy, like

00:44:57.520 just like you've gone through their program or whatever, the Epstein program, so to speak.

00:45:03.580 And yeah.

00:45:04.820 Do you think they go through the program without even knowing it?

00:45:06.960 And then they realize, oh, this is where I am.

00:45:09.200 I think they're, no, I think they're farming children legit, like trafficking children,

00:45:13.700 sending them to certain schools.

00:45:15.120 I hope they're farming them locally.

00:45:16.300 That's all I hope.

00:45:17.040 Yeah, at least I hope it's just not from Argentina.

00:45:19.260 Yeah, it's not.

00:45:21.400 But no, I, yeah, it's unbelievable.

00:45:23.020 But I think that's what's going on.

00:45:24.660 And so that's what we were looking at in some of the series that we were doing was how many times I refer to as the Midas touch, that somebody's just like pulled through the ranks.

00:45:32.480 That's not actually an impressive person.

00:45:34.800 And yet they were told that there were some genius and you start looking into their past and nothing makes sense.

00:45:39.840 And they're actually kind of dumb.

00:45:41.840 There's a lot of those people.

00:45:42.720 And then they're put at the head of a company or at the head of a country.

00:45:47.580 Yeah.

00:45:48.320 Like Emmanuel Macron gets a little dicey, start looking into his past.

00:45:52.200 So Emmanuel Macron, that's the president of France.

00:45:54.840 Mm-hmm.

00:45:55.180 Yeah.

00:45:55.540 Mm-hmm.

00:45:55.980 And you guys are in a law—are you guys currently in a lawsuit still?

00:45:59.200 Yes.

00:46:00.040 Yes.

00:46:00.580 Is it something you have to keep dealing with?

00:46:02.680 Yeah, you have to keep dealing with it because that's one of the strategies of how the state tries to take you out is just to bankrupt you for asking questions.

00:46:09.880 and um what this was unusual though because i think this is the first time in world history

00:46:14.200 that a sitting president of a country has sued any media person in another country i mean it's

00:46:18.860 just weird i mean it'd be very strange if like vladimir putin sued you right just be weird yeah

00:46:24.320 no i don't care what it is what that you say about vladimir putin like he's not gonna

00:46:27.960 it would just be weird it'd be weird you'd be weird to think that like oh yeah he's coming

00:46:31.940 to nashville because he's got a court date with you again we're getting to this inflection point

00:46:38.100 where we're like, hey, man, is this real?

00:46:40.660 Like, the sitting president of France is suing Candace.

00:46:46.480 Yeah.

00:46:46.940 It's kind of weird.

00:46:47.700 It's kind of weird.

00:46:49.260 It's kind of like getting to be, like, lost at the end of Lost

00:46:52.060 where they were just fucking, like, you know.

00:46:53.900 Running out of ideas.

00:46:54.940 Yes.

00:46:55.480 Like, at the end of Lost where they just did too many things,

00:46:57.780 like the black smoke and the, like.

00:46:59.620 I never saw it, but I know what you mean when, like,

00:47:01.580 the writer's room is just the running out of ideas.

00:47:03.820 You just got to shut the show down at that point.

00:47:05.660 And I think Lost might have been the original kind of, it was our first kind of TV COVID, I think.

00:47:11.400 Because it was like, how much are people willing to go on such a journey?

00:47:14.720 Lost was like a seven-year journey that most of America was on.

00:47:17.900 Okay, I was not on that journey.

00:47:19.740 And ended basically.

00:47:21.780 Crazy.

00:47:22.580 It didn't end.

00:47:23.340 Okay.

00:47:23.660 Right?

00:47:24.000 Like Game of Thrones.

00:47:25.080 Yeah.

00:47:25.420 We were with you.

00:47:26.580 We were on this journey.

00:47:27.380 And now it's getting weird.

00:47:28.740 So they start to do that.

00:47:29.880 And then it's like, then they make it a little bit more in real life with something like COVID, you know?

00:47:34.100 i think they've done it in the in the in the mental health sector too i think ssris were a

00:47:38.220 big thing depression that coming out and then like 20 years after that i think that um uh bipolar

00:47:47.000 disorder was something that was starting to be really really diagnosed all the time and now it's

00:47:50.840 something i hear like everybody had like i hear so many cases of it can you look that up when was

00:47:56.300 bipolar disorder i mean frankenstein was like the first or dr frankenstein or whatever but when was

00:48:01.220 like current bipolar disorder when did that start popping when did it start popping i mean

00:48:09.200 halloween just gonna be it's gonna be a good one will people dress up like you for halloween

00:48:14.140 first century first century c yeah but this that's just i think like men dressing up like women and

00:48:19.920 stuff um yeah because i think the last time that you were on here we talked we had talked about

00:48:24.600 that they that about that lawsuit yeah but just think about how weird that we're talking about

00:48:28.880 a lawsuit with the sitting president of frug it's just yeah this is bonkers they have to they have

00:48:34.320 to end it's got to be we got to end the series now right because we're getting the the ideas

00:48:38.720 are getting too crazy how do we go beyond that is there is there a way that lawsuit will end

00:48:42.640 like do you guys see an end to it or just imagine being in the court and just going i'm sorry what

00:48:47.260 is the case i'm looking at i don't even the sitting president of france like you just you're

00:48:52.180 the sitting president of france you're supposed to like now we can't take a lot of these people

00:48:55.520 seriously that's also what the problem is with stuff like this is i feel like there was this

00:49:00.720 i want to i don't say like um like we almost like respected certain things and we thought it was

00:49:07.140 real for sure this illusion of power at least and the illusion matters like we have to it has to

00:49:13.000 feel untouchable you know it has to feel like it could be real it's untouchable and it's aspirational

00:49:18.420 and then when you have like the sitting president of france suing podcasters in different nations

00:49:23.300 you're like okay you're not a serious person like you're not a serious person like you're

00:49:25.560 like the rest of us stop this pretense is coming out of the elizé palace just forget it you're

00:49:29.420 just like a regular homeboy you know and that's i'm really upset about that like we now we have

00:49:34.860 to realize that everyone's an idiot everyone's emotional and they're all they also happen to be

00:49:40.200 liars and so for them they're like how dare you expose me i i have the state behind me so now i

00:49:44.480 can sue you and it's like even if you get beyond the lawsuit like how does this work like you're

00:49:50.000 the sitting president of france even if you won the lawsuit what's gonna am i gonna be shut up

00:49:54.760 here you're gonna take money from my bank account here like what's right what are we doing talk

00:50:00.560 about realizing that it's like the the entire system is globalized like what are you talking

00:50:06.140 about and then you have trump cheering it on the lawsuit yeah you have trump cheering it on saying

00:50:12.500 that he hope brigitte triumphs in court i mean who knows who controls his twitter feed or whatever

00:50:17.280 but um have you communicated with Trump about it at all well he told me to stop talking about

00:50:22.320 he called me in February of 2025 I didn't even know that yeah because I was doing a whole series

00:50:26.660 on potential Mossad ties and all this stuff and I got a phone call from him asking me to just stop

00:50:32.560 talking about Brigitte and Sergio Gore and I'm going where what is going on as a White House

00:50:36.780 care about what I'm talking about on a podcast and they wanted the conversation to stop but I

00:50:41.660 think now in retrospect which I've been talking about the podcast now I think it all actually

00:50:45.300 relates to the epstein files because the epstein story is a france story like glane maxwell they

00:50:50.780 were this is a french family and um we were look getting into like the house of maxwell and her

00:50:57.060 father robert maxwell being the central piece it's deep and then you realize that his partner

00:51:02.360 was jean-luc brunel it was the modeling agencies it was all french and so i didn't put two and two

00:51:07.560 together really until um after charlie's passing the french modeling agent and founder of carin

00:51:13.660 models and mc2 model management backed by epstein which was financially backed by epstein was one

00:51:18.800 of epstein's closest associates yeah so i think we didn't realize what tree we were barking up

00:51:24.860 when we started the series looking into epstein and i didn't realize that these pieces could

00:51:30.820 obviously come together if you're talking about a world of trafficking and i think you know the

00:51:37.300 modeling companies were a front for trafficking a bunch of people from eastern europe that seems to

00:51:43.300 be the picture Epstein also was involved in weapons and and so it gives you an ability to

00:51:48.560 do that and so a lot of these I look at the fashion industry now different because you expect

00:51:54.580 to see young women they're like oh he's this model from Estonia and she's 14 but look how beautiful

00:52:02.260 she is and now I'm going this was kind of all happening right in our face because as you start

00:52:06.620 to look through the Epstein files and he was like picking who was going to win pageants

00:52:10.420 Epstein won the lottery twice

00:52:12.980 Talk about us just realizing that's fake

00:52:15.460 Did he really?

00:52:16.780 Look that up

00:52:17.420 I want to fact check that

00:52:18.440 But I'm pretty sure he won the Powerball twice

00:52:20.440 Or maybe it was the Powerball twice

00:52:21.900 Did Jeffrey Epstein win the lottery?

00:52:24.220 The studies show

00:52:25.180 No official state or national lottery organization

00:52:28.580 He has recorded a winner by the name

00:52:31.460 Connected to a major verified jackpot

00:52:33.760 Okay, so was that actually misinformation?

00:52:36.960 Just let me see

00:52:37.520 Oh wait, go to Tucker's

00:52:38.700 For some reason I feel like

00:52:40.000 i read that somewhere because i you can't trust ai either i mean who knows if powerball maybe it's

00:52:44.940 powerball so that's different from lottery or jackpot i don't know the difference between all

00:52:47.960 these things but yeah in oklahoma maybe it was just one once but it's like a bit weird like you

00:52:53.280 know and so you you take a look at that and you're going what's happening are we just laundering

00:52:58.320 money we're is it about children like yeah what is because here's the thing in the end what is it

00:53:03.540 all about is it is it about sex is it about money it's just about power like um because now like

00:53:10.620 all of it i mean the women red sparrow like i think that they are probably running the most

00:53:17.660 who's red sparrow not that pizza place is it is there a pizza place called red sparrow yeah i

00:53:22.020 think so look that up uh oh my god no i've eaten i've dined no there's no red sparrow what i've

00:53:29.400 dined in there that's crazy that there's a pizza is that in nashville what the fuck man is that in

00:53:34.740 nashville oh shit it's in australia what were you doing in australia eating pizza oh i fucking i was

00:53:40.480 hungry you think i don't get hungry just because i'm traveling people gotta eat in australia too

00:53:45.380 but i'm banned from australia so i can't i can't go you are dude me and kanya i think are like the

00:53:52.120 only people that have ever been banned from australia okay hold on we gotta back a couple

00:53:55.280 things up here okay first let's get it and yeah and i'm not sure if this was yeah this may or may

00:54:01.080 not have been the place that i that i went to but yeah thank god i yeah anyway i didn't know

00:54:05.160 nothing bad happened at this pizza place i was just i was i wasn't even referencing a pizza place

00:54:08.600 i was saying red sparrow like the movie okay i haven't seen that i haven't seen that yeah i

00:54:13.700 thought you meant red sparrow pizza they're gonna get hit with so many reviews like what's going on

00:54:16.940 at red sparrow in australia yeah bro sorry bro you guys are chill we're very sorry allegedly

00:54:22.720 allegedly just a couple of allegedly yeah allegedly allegedly good day mate all the movies like all

00:54:30.720 of these spy women fucking halloween that have like been put through the mk ultra program since

00:54:34.860 they were kids and then they're just sent to marry because if you think about that more broadly

00:54:38.580 speaking of what courtney love was saying about the publishing rights well power in general like

00:54:43.040 you got to have a way to access power so you get all these women who are like completely hypnotized

00:54:47.060 to marry these men because what's always going to be you know biblically speaking what's going to

00:54:52.640 be the easiest way no matter how much uh power a man has if you want to control him send a cute

00:54:57.320 girl you know what i'm saying and so cute girl looking for sugar or whatever yeah so they like

00:55:02.480 are this was i think based on like it was real like they were training so this is this is a book

00:55:07.560 by this guy the story is based on the best-selling red sparrow novel by former cia officer jason

00:55:11.740 matthews it draws on historical cold war sex spionage tactics yeah i mean there's still this

00:55:18.040 it's just marry a dude they can just right now you like you look you're building a little empire

00:55:23.140 so they could just send you a wind-up doll and then you love her and then you just leave

00:55:29.160 everything to her you know that's scary and she's just a she's just like a data center of a woman

00:55:34.820 she's not a real woman i think a lot of people are thinking about that right now too like who

00:55:39.220 the bleep did i marry right that's the show who the bleep did i marry yeah that's scary

00:55:46.280 That stuff scares me.

00:55:47.140 The idea of not knowing who you marry or what they're capable of, even in real world scenarios.

00:55:51.380 Like there was that case that just happened, Caleb Flynn or whatever.

00:55:55.060 I didn't see that.

00:55:55.800 It's just, I don't know what's going on with people.

00:55:57.980 He was having an affair.

00:55:59.760 Of course, he was a Christian pastor or was at least involved a worship leader at a church.

00:56:05.120 At least he was having an affair with an adult.

00:56:06.400 Was it with an adult?

00:56:07.140 It was, but it's like he then wanted out of the relationship and like rather than just filing for divorce, he kills her, his wife.

00:56:15.480 And you just go, okay, oh, yeah, also former American idol singer.

00:56:21.300 It's a dark world.

00:56:22.580 Guys, there's so many other options here, you know, and it is.

00:56:26.560 It's a dark, dark world, but that even in the retrospect.

00:56:30.200 You staged a home invasion.

00:56:31.700 Yeah, and in the retrospect, what's crazy is her sister, like the victim's sister, was comforting him.

00:56:38.860 She's like, I had no idea that he was capable of this.

00:56:41.260 That is so scary.

00:56:42.860 and for something so dumb like you just wanted you had a fling with a girl like that's crazy to me

00:56:49.720 just leave the marriage if that's what it comes to so you wonder what's going on this person's

00:56:54.680 head you don't know who you marry that is the the draw of that where people i think are wondering

00:56:59.360 like oh yeah when people say why are women attracted to true crime it's actually

00:57:04.580 because you learn things about people you think that's true absolutely it's a psychology it's

00:57:11.220 it's the different mindset of you know hunters and gatherers like women are different creatures

00:57:15.400 we socialize more we speak more from a time that when speak more words than men from a time that

00:57:20.020 we start speaking we speak faster and you have to develop those certain traits over time over

00:57:24.640 you know it's it's it's evolutionary so women socialize they communicate and they learn

00:57:28.800 information because they have to be the ones that keep the kids safe and all you know and so then

00:57:32.880 you're talking to each other like whoa whoa whoa that's crazy i didn't even think about the

00:57:35.800 possibility that the housekeeper could do this or whatever as you're watching some show i didn't

00:57:40.840 think about the possibility that a best friend could do this then suddenly you're watching

00:57:45.120 somebody else's story and you're thinking let me make sure that this is taken care of in my

00:57:49.380 household and my kid is not being exposed to this and but yeah i could see some of that i could

00:57:55.040 certainly see some of that i think sometimes when i think i always thought that women watch those

00:57:59.640 shows because they secretly like this might sound crazy but they secretly respect these murderers

00:58:05.960 what because at least it's a guy making a commitment right like say what you want about it

00:58:13.200 that guy is that is committed men and women will never understand each other that is what i've

00:58:17.800 just learned right now men and women were just men are from mars and women are from venus no

00:58:22.300 women watch it because there's like it's a draw of like how could something have gone so wrong

00:58:26.140 like where could it's a safety thing i don't see i see a lot of women like oh at least that guy's

00:58:29.980 willing to commit to her yeah no that's not that's not the conversation like you said he would come

00:58:34.220 over and he did come over no yes he killed her but at least he showed up that is not the

00:58:39.240 conversation that's going on i always love thinking of what it's like that meme of what

00:58:44.180 guys think is going on in a girl's head and what girls think guys are thinking and it's just we're

00:58:47.840 just from different planets yeah we are it's fine we're from different planets that's what i've

00:58:51.520 realized having boys and girls is just there's no comparison here yeah completely different what's

00:58:56.480 going on in their minds is never what's going on in our minds guys think we're crazy that's what

00:59:00.880 They think we're thinking, and then we look at guys, and we're like, you're crazy.

00:59:04.640 Like, how are you guys so chill about this in certain regards?

00:59:08.140 And it's just hunters versus gatherers.

00:59:10.820 Yeah, we're just fish passing in the night or whatever it's called.

00:59:13.680 I think it's the ships.

00:59:15.900 Ships passing in the night.

00:59:17.420 Yeah, if fish are passing in the night, dude, if I wouldn't even notice because there's so much water.

00:59:23.440 But, yeah, dude, I'm telling you, it's freaking Halloween.

00:59:25.980 To be clear, fish do pass in the night as well.

00:59:28.100 There's nothing wrong with that expression.

00:59:29.360 We can say fish passing him at night.

00:59:31.180 It's fish pass.

00:59:31.920 Yeah.

00:59:32.240 They pass each other.

00:59:33.080 Fish passing him at night.

00:59:34.860 Her, I bet he is thinking of another woman.

00:59:36.380 Him, why do we throw our bait towards the middle of the lake when we fish from the bank, but throw our bait towards the bank when we fish from a boat?

00:59:43.360 That's a good question.

00:59:44.380 This is girl versus guy.

00:59:46.340 Just.

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01:01:07.040 matters. People are getting their wieners remodeled. People don't even have wieners.

01:01:11.160 everything's crazy now people are getting tits

01:01:13.620 tits on men

01:01:14.380 some kid got one tit put on his back

01:01:17.500 or whatever the other day to help him with

01:01:18.640 some of this

01:01:20.280 the way he plays soccer or whatever

01:01:22.300 he got a tit on his back

01:01:23.580 you can't just drop that casually

01:01:25.780 you can't just say a kid got a tit on his back

01:01:28.720 I'm just saying they're remodeling

01:01:30.240 help him with soccer

01:01:31.820 I think it gave him a little bit more spacing

01:01:34.380 when they were like lobbying for like a header near the net

01:01:36.800 or whatever but it was just like

01:01:38.000 what I'm saying is this Candace

01:01:39.380 it's all turned into halloween like it's it's like we're at the inflection point where it's

01:01:44.760 just weird it's halloween man everything's halloween but what do you think contributed

01:01:49.740 the most to it because i do think that the majority of people let me think through this

01:01:56.480 because i want to make sure i'm not going to regret the statement but i do think that the

01:02:00.040 majority of people are normal and i think we see the extremes a lot right right and so

01:02:06.080 that's one of the things like because my life is very like real and we don't kind of I guess play

01:02:13.720 Hollywood or DC games and we have our friend nobody knows who our friends are like you're

01:02:18.900 kind of our only friend that's famous so to speak and we are keep our kids off the internet like I

01:02:25.600 just feel like my life is very real and so I know real people and so I'm wondering if we are also

01:02:32.980 responding to the extremes because we then open our phones and we see like bb net and yahoo saying

01:02:41.520 this or someone making a strange like i don't know just doing something insane and that's what

01:02:46.440 the media is going to cover because they can't cover people being normal yeah like so i think

01:02:50.240 the majority of people are normal but the people who have power are eccentric pedophiles right and

01:02:55.760 so they have to keep escalating things because they're angry at the normal people are now going

01:02:59.760 oh I think you guys are a bunch of pedophiles

01:03:02.860 and so then they have to

01:03:04.280 be more extreme in their insanity

01:03:06.180 and trying to gaslight us and make us think that

01:03:08.280 we're the crazy people

01:03:09.240 like I don't know I think about that sometimes

01:03:11.880 like what's contributing to it

01:03:13.840 and they want basically they want to make us

01:03:16.260 think that they're the majority

01:03:17.480 but they're actually not the majority

01:03:19.160 the majority of people don't want to put a tit

01:03:22.240 on their back to balance them

01:03:23.900 at soccer

01:03:24.880 some people sure

01:03:27.180 yeah some people do but pedophiles are trying to get that because they want to it needs to be a

01:03:31.540 new marketing surgery it needs a new thing that's the problem with hollywood it was like the illusion

01:03:35.420 of a majority because they had so many fans but they're not they're not the majority and now it's

01:03:40.860 changing and so they gotta they gotta turn up the furnace yeah oh yeah you guys are gonna be the

01:03:44.880 tit backs or whatever and you guys are gonna be oh who's your son play for the tit box not a terrible

01:03:49.920 name for a team i agree but it's just you're right it's getting fucking weird it's turning into

01:03:53.460 halloween do you think that you've influenced a lot of halloween costumes is there any case

01:03:58.340 see if there's any is there any candace owens halloween costumes out there they're probably

01:04:02.220 scared because they're going to be like it's instantly blackface yeah i will say this when

01:04:07.060 you have when you have uh an artist or um when you have like a personality or someone from the

01:04:13.000 world that you like that is black or even dark dark native american i've never been offended

01:04:17.840 by that i think it's crazy when they're like canceling four-year-olds and they want to dress

01:04:21.240 up as moana because they love moana yeah and then they dress up as moana and your parents canceled

01:04:26.060 i was like come on man yeah what do you mean she loves moana she can't even spell racist i know

01:04:31.880 that's why my kids it's great because they're mixed so they can just they don't have to

01:04:34.480 either one either one oh slide and be cinderella no way oh shawty bay no way oh no that's a tweet

01:04:42.920 no they're making fun of this this this this week's thing where they found a video of me

01:04:47.920 Okay, it wasn't even – it's literally from my college project.

01:04:51.020 Oh, with the lesbian stuff you mean?

01:04:52.360 Yeah.

01:04:53.180 No, the lesbian stuff wasn't from my college project, but this is just someone just doing a –

01:04:58.540 Who is that?

01:04:59.340 Now, what period of your life was this, Candice?

01:05:01.280 So I was playing a police officer.

01:05:03.040 It's actually a very funny, long video.

01:05:04.900 So this is a real photo?

01:05:06.120 No, it's a real photo.

01:05:06.780 I was playing a police officer for my sophomore year college.

01:05:11.380 I was a journalism major, so you had to like – this is back when you had the video camera

01:05:15.040 and like the early editing in 2008 or whatever.

01:05:17.400 And so your final project was always to pick a topic and then you had to like create a video and submit it.

01:05:22.780 So somebody hacked my – and then you put it up on YouTube and I guess I didn't private or unlist it or whatever.

01:05:27.820 So for some reason back in June of 2025, somebody hacked my YouTube account from college, which only had this video because you have to just send the link to your professor or whatever.

01:05:39.580 Sorry.

01:05:40.160 Yeah, you're good.

01:05:41.220 Is that good?

01:05:41.580 that yeah i guess somebody hacked my youtube account last year from so it's a two decade old

01:05:48.000 video it's still hilarious people should actually go watch it and it was just we were covering the

01:05:53.440 adderall epidemic on college campuses yeah and we were obviously being it was it was satire so we

01:05:59.820 were leaning into like getting arrested for this person was a drug dealer who was selling adderall

01:06:04.160 um so it's just a video from school but is that what because there was something i saw last week

01:06:08.480 was like about lesbianism or something like that but did you ever practice lesbianism

01:06:12.200 i don't care if you did form of witchcraft did you ever practice lesbianism no of course it was

01:06:19.040 totally fake it was their it was their latest like candace drop and it was so insane because

01:06:23.620 we were like what is going on how are you taking this innocent college video and so they're like

01:06:27.700 we hacked this and then we found that she had a twitter account and i'm like yeah like what's what

01:06:32.260 is wrong with any of this and then of course if you put it all into claude they're like and then

01:06:35.460 they just pretended that this account they're like we can't show you how but this connects to

01:06:39.100 all of these crazy lesbian accounts from 2008 i'm like dude 2008 is too early a and they made a

01:06:46.000 mistake could you have been a lesbian at that time if i was lesbian at that time you just go to the

01:06:49.920 bar i'm on a college campus like you don't you go to a frat party you don't make like 2008 wasn't

01:06:54.280 a time where people were making hang your tongue out of your mouth and run down the street i'm

01:06:57.720 like this is i think they're just got the it's like what are we even talking about people don't

01:07:01.600 need to make accounts we facebook just started like you know there's people weren't doing this

01:07:05.620 kind of stuff the world wasn't that weird in 2008 yeah um so but anyways what was really funny though

01:07:11.220 was they only messed up on one point so they then like of course tried to fight all these accounts

01:07:16.120 that didn't have uh you know didn't have a person's face and it got debunked pretty quickly

01:07:21.000 but the thing that they forgot you want to know what saved me i had a trashy tattoo and a belly

01:07:26.580 ring and they forgot to put it on there and i was like see mom i disobeyed you i told you

01:07:33.260 dunking on my mom two decades later i'm like you see i told you this tattoo would pay off

01:07:40.480 wow yeah because they they forgot the tattoo and the belly ring and the belly rings because you

01:07:45.840 know millennials and i always talked about it on my podcast uh on at the daily wire she's like you

01:07:50.780 know this was the regret because tattoo removal is very very painful but they just forgot it in

01:07:55.300 the in the candace series and then so the whole thing got clearly i was like guys just different

01:07:59.500 people weren't it's just weird so you never so you never did it no of course no do you notice

01:08:04.040 what they were accusing me of they were it was like they weren't even casual it was so epstein

01:08:07.660 coded they were like this website she's had six like six profiles on adult friend finder trying

01:08:14.120 to find group like group sex group activities like yeah like i'm like people weren't doing that

01:08:19.540 like we had blackberries man it was a simple it was a simpler time yeah dude first of all we had

01:08:24.040 blackberries and also any woman with a blackberry bbm t-mobile was like that side sidekick that was

01:08:30.720 a land of sidekick that was a lesbian item i never had a sidekick maybe it was a lesbian item

01:08:35.580 i feel like i know my mom had a sidekick did she she did but we're so wait was there a photo that's

01:08:42.160 not so none of the things that they were saying were sexual pictures right no no they then they

01:08:46.260 tried to like like there was no there was no sense it was totally schizophrenic but they put

01:08:49.480 Lesbian Candace and see what it is.

01:08:51.260 Yeah, they tried to put up this photo.

01:08:52.860 Hold on, it's going to be half the WNBA, so we can't do that, dude.

01:08:56.740 Yeah, so then they tried that photo in the corner, and then they—

01:08:59.200 Let me see it.

01:08:59.800 They didn't know I didn't have a—they didn't know that I had a belly ring and a tattoo.

01:09:05.200 So then they tried to go back and be like—

01:09:07.160 Whoa, Candace, is that you?

01:09:09.200 It ain't me, unfortunately.

01:09:10.780 Who is that?

01:09:11.920 So then they found the photos after of my tattoo, and I was like,

01:09:15.280 you guys already fumbled the ball.

01:09:17.160 You can only do the fake—you can only try the fake porn thing once.

01:09:19.320 I was like, you missed the trashy tattoo and you missed the belly ring.

01:09:22.520 And then they found the photos, actual photos of me in college.

01:09:24.940 And I had a trashy tattoo.

01:09:26.520 Oh, dude, when you're in college, dude, everybody, who is, I couldn't name 75 people, also men

01:09:31.980 when I was in college that weren't lesbians, first of all.

01:09:34.460 Yeah, I mean.

01:09:35.360 Everybody, dude.

01:09:36.120 Look, brunette, what was it, burnettes?

01:09:38.120 Bro, you hang your tongue out the frickin', just out of a moving car window and something

01:09:42.220 will run across it.

01:09:43.040 It was literally disgusting.

01:09:44.080 It's just a different time.

01:09:45.200 But I mean, I kind of benefited from just, I was always just very honest with my audience

01:09:48.420 about like i talked about the tattoo regret belly rings the like christina aguilera phases

01:09:53.120 drinking in college and i think that you get this like that's one of the things that i think i

01:09:59.080 benefited from is just i've never pretended to be this perfect person you know like i i mean i

01:10:04.320 well that's all normal life yeah it's like you're not gonna have a normal life right but like then

01:10:07.900 like going to like the sex route and like trying to pretend that people are prostuting on your

01:10:11.600 net it's just because i don't support israel like it's just like we're getting a little crazy you

01:10:16.060 know what i mean like there's something about that that i was like it feels i don't know like

01:10:20.620 not well it just feels cheap i mean it feels but it's like it goes back and you're trying to edit

01:10:24.780 my character it's like i've already told you the flaws like you don't need to right you know and

01:10:29.080 like to try to sexualize things is crazy to me but well i think we're in a different time where

01:10:33.480 you can't use those types of things as much anymore right say you were somebody that had

01:10:37.300 that had even dated a woman who cares and say you were somebody that was having going through a

01:10:42.360 tough time and was and was selling and was like involved in like um some sort of sexual thing so

01:10:48.880 what yeah like people are human people right yeah what somebody then also said is the new thing now

01:10:55.220 like i we're also just lucky that the internet wasn't what it is now but someone was even saying

01:10:59.920 that now what they do is they get these like you know there'll be these like data leaks and they'll

01:11:04.000 be able to find like an old password of yours and so then they'll go this gratefully didn't happen

01:11:08.440 to me and they'll but they'll like access dormant accounts and then they'll create profile they'll

01:11:14.300 create a digital profile for you and you've never even been on this website so now it's getting very

01:11:19.420 sophisticated and people just need to be careful on the internet like and maybe that goes back to

01:11:23.220 my point earlier about me just not wanting to put my kids out there because if you're putting your

01:11:27.640 kids out there on the internet and you're public how do you know they're not already creating fake

01:11:31.220 identities for your kids you know what i'm saying like pretending your kid has a tiktok or whatever

01:11:34.900 what it is just using a dormant account and creating a whole profile like there are entire

01:11:39.080 profiles of me profiles of people you know good fan profiles but then there could also be profiles

01:11:44.980 that are not fan profiles i hate you i saw one there was one of you i think it was somebody

01:11:48.200 said it was like dark farmer women or whatever bring that one up no do not is it what is it

01:11:52.840 it's not illegal or anything it was just like it was a kind of a farmer's only dating thing or

01:11:56.860 whatever but i think it was not dark it was darker farmer women or tanned farmer women and you were

01:12:02.560 like the most tan on there or something like that yeah it was just a conservative female dating site

01:12:07.140 or something what i have an account on darker farmer woman look i don't think it's a bad look

01:12:12.320 no that's so crazy no pull that up make it sound very negative no it's a good place for people to

01:12:17.180 meet people especially in murphysboro there is no way are you kidding i'm not kidding i know i saw

01:12:23.600 this or i you know you go through you just like you scroll and you see stuff no this she has to

01:12:29.020 CFC or like mahogany farmer, something like that.

01:12:34.480 I don't know what the terminology was used.

01:12:36.940 Wait, so is it like a website dedicated to black farmers literally?

01:12:40.800 No, it's sort of like an urban farmer dating site, I think.

01:12:45.220 Wait, like an urban city or urban black people?

01:12:49.580 I mean, whatever you want it to be.

01:12:51.380 I don't know.

01:12:52.060 I've never heard of this.

01:12:52.880 Okay, I think it's black people, but I don't know.

01:12:54.840 All right, you got to find it.

01:12:55.060 Why are you on these websites?

01:12:56.380 I'm not on them all the time.

01:12:58.300 God.

01:12:59.020 i'm just trying to do my best look i'm telling you it gets i gotta get it yeah i gotta get a

01:13:05.800 family suit you've got to get a family suit i didn't even know about this is how you get one

01:13:09.440 sometimes yeah you gotta go you gotta search or you gotta shop around there you go you learn

01:13:13.480 something new every day an urban farmer site are they using my photo though for real no i it was

01:13:18.300 somebody i think it could have been something that was fictional who knows what's real anymore

01:13:22.220 oh oh oh yeah i don't know about that yeah i was like i thought you were saying like you were on

01:13:25.740 the website and there was a profile for me no i saw a profile but i don't think that it was it

01:13:29.560 wasn't a sexual thing black female farmers farmer dating i didn't know this was a thing

01:13:33.960 single farmers dating okay i love this let me see because we need more black for women and look at

01:13:40.600 this white woman sneaking in even the third woman this is crazy i didn't even know it was what like

01:13:46.200 there's so many websites like oh there you go down there let me see a woman of a different breed

01:13:51.180 right there i'm that special lady pull up what are you doing on this website huh i'm just looking

01:13:57.060 to see what's online that's so crazy wait she's not black that's what i'm saying somebody's girls

01:14:02.600 be trying to late oh that seems like a bot some of these dating sites are so bots and who is that

01:14:07.680 lady i'm a professional high fashion model that's how it starts right there you go right there that

01:14:14.720 is hilarious and that's your epstein bot right there it's dark candace and i'm talking about

01:14:19.960 the women it's dark out there i think we all just got it some of us too much online sometimes it is

01:14:27.700 and i was even because we were just talking about it now like the millennials we kind of carved it

01:14:32.380 all out and even the earlier dating sites like it was so much more innocent then like people were

01:14:36.880 on like e-harmony there were like commercials for it and then i was i was telling my producer

01:14:42.120 ashley i was like even when tinder got started my friends that were on tinder they it was people

01:14:47.320 would go on dates and it was normal and then everything became so sexual like i feel like in

01:14:52.200 like 2012 things kind of went down the drain and maybe a little later maybe it was like 2015 but

01:14:57.320 i don't know there was like an innocence to the internet in the beginning and then it got very

01:15:01.820 dark and sexual and weird and tinder got taken over and then it was like netflix and chill

01:15:07.480 and then people kind of migrated and went to bumble because they were trying to get out of

01:15:11.020 that filth and now it's just like i can't imagine trying to date at all like it's just really a

01:15:17.180 especially online like you just don't know like everything is so scary now well yeah yeah in the

01:15:22.260 beginning it was kind of like casual it used to be a lot more innocent and and google used to be

01:15:29.240 real by the way the results that we got back there were so many different options yeah and then i feel

01:15:33.580 like we stepped into like a totally different era where everything now is like fake fake and gay

01:15:38.540 like i always say it's just fake and gay you're like okay what's real are these like there we just

01:15:42.800 got bots everywhere it's trying to tell you what to think google is no longer giving you every

01:15:46.920 answer it's like telling you what the answer needs to be as soon as you answer you can't even trust

01:15:51.140 the first answer on google you actually should just dismiss the first answer on google and then

01:15:54.800 you have to like used to have all of these options and i try to explain to people i'm like the internet

01:15:58.820 is now fake it's just everything about it is a veneer right it started to almost eat digest its

01:16:03.500 own self in a weird way but they got they got smart and were like no we need to tell them what

01:16:07.620 to think and not show them what other people are thinking you know the dead internet theory that is

01:16:11.860 a hundred percent i believe i believe that the dead internet theory is an online concept which

01:16:15.880 suggests that the internet is now mostly controlled by automated bots and ai generated content instead

01:16:20.220 of real people i agree x definitively i mean x is just a bot farm x is the grossest it's so gross

01:16:26.760 dude x what what did elon do what happened because it is the sickest place you don't even go on

01:16:33.980 anymore i don't even know anybody who go it's just like kind of a trashy spot where people are trying

01:16:37.600 to sell meme coins um let's just be honest twitter was better when jack dorsey ran it wow

01:16:43.700 We got to just drop that right now.

01:16:45.800 But do you think that something happened where then like the people, maybe Elon bought it and then they just like haters bought so many bots?

01:16:54.220 Like do you think it's bots or do you think it's bots?

01:16:56.480 They're obviously fake profiles.

01:16:57.840 I mean I remember at the like inflection point when they were really trying to get Trump to go to war and Trump was like I have 100% support in the – like a ridiculous poll that's so obviously not true.

01:17:08.920 But I remember Michael Knowles, he tweeted something and he ran a poll of like, do you support the Iranian war?

01:17:16.900 And it was like 100% of people supported it.

01:17:19.820 It's awful.

01:17:20.880 That come on Twitter and that you can see sometimes where they launch all these bots and the trends are completely controlled now.

01:17:27.440 So like you will never see a bad trend about a Zionist.

01:17:30.960 And then no matter what people who are anti-Zionist do, they like try to clean it up and like go after people.

01:17:36.820 So they're controlling the trends, the bots. And I don't know why he allowed that to happen because he kind of came in like, I'm going to rescue X. But, you know, maybe it wasn't a good business deal. And so he's just, you know, cut some deals on the side. But everyone knows that it's bots. But I will say this because I don't think it's a bad thing because people are aware of it. So I think now we're kind of becoming like antibiotic resistant.

01:17:59.880 Do you know what I mean?

01:18:01.080 Like they're trying to – and we're just like, okay, this is obviously a nonsense.

01:18:05.240 Nobody actually believes this.

01:18:06.820 Nobody –

01:18:07.100 Nobody believes these charts.

01:18:08.780 Nobody –

01:18:09.120 Yeah.

01:18:09.520 Right.

01:18:09.740 Nobody believes any of this.

01:18:10.480 So it's having the opposite effect.

01:18:11.440 Right.

01:18:11.880 So it's a good thing that we now realize that the internet is dead.

01:18:15.820 The dead internet theory is real.

01:18:17.820 And yeah.

01:18:18.240 But now what happens from here?

01:18:20.040 Because here's the thing.

01:18:21.020 Say if there's these higher like dark powers and they control everything.

01:18:25.240 once people start to look up and just not be stuck in in the confusion anymore right to realize that

01:18:32.940 oh everything's being controlled it's all like kind of so much of things are a myth you have to

01:18:38.240 immediately control all of them or they'll get out of the cage you know what i'm saying then that's

01:18:44.700 where we're at right now right that feels like i don't think they know what to do they're like

01:18:47.680 pouring more of it on and it looks even more ridiculous yes bizarre it's like yeah we know

01:18:52.020 people don't think this. What are you talking about? We know these are bots. What are you

01:18:55.400 saying? That's what I'm saying. The average person doesn't think like this. So I don't

01:18:58.480 think they ever thought through this plausibility that there would be this awakening this quickly

01:19:03.600 because it did kind of happen quickly. Like we went the last few years have been, I feel

01:19:09.020 like everything's gone faster. Everything's gone faster. The evil has gone faster. The

01:19:14.960 hope has gone faster. I think more people are kind of like hopefully, hopefully heading

01:19:19.400 towards faith and trying to find that maybe this is the time where it's just another time in

01:19:24.100 history where you realize that maybe this is something that brings a lot of people back to

01:19:28.520 faith you know but even faith is getting exposed like the faith grift so to speak has been exposed

01:19:33.780 um in some areas for sure i think over the last three years as well where you got these like

01:19:39.460 pastors who are like ripped jeans and trying to relate and now we're like wait a second you're

01:19:44.220 totally just oh yeah like calves for christ you'll see those guys doing like the workouts or whatever

01:19:48.420 like these calves are for christ you know i'm saying christ what pocket of the internet are

01:19:52.340 you in i've never seen calves for christ i've never seen black farmers like where are you

01:19:56.540 right now what are calves for christ please pull this up i'm online i've never heard of this but

01:20:04.800 i'm just saying jesus he might have been able to hold himself up on the cross if he'd had these

01:20:08.460 calves no way yeah there's a lot of dark stuff out there i gotta i just gotta like jump into

01:20:13.640 your entire algorithm right now you're seeing things that i'm just not seeing on the internet

01:20:17.820 but yes to your point i was talking more about like the mega church sort of cool pastor oh yeah

01:20:24.860 that like relates to you and all that stuff well yeah i think everything can get corrupt right

01:20:29.560 it's like yeah but i think that these actually started corrupt like some of these mega churches

01:20:34.080 because i when i yeah i mean the kind of money they're bringing in i'll tell you where i was

01:20:38.040 my moment where i said okay this is something's going on here all right i don't know if we're

01:20:42.980 drug trafficking, what's going on here with these megachurches, who's funding them, was

01:20:47.900 when Joel Osteen, a plumber, went to go fix a toilet at his megachurch, and he, like,

01:20:55.160 accidentally hit a wall and found $300,000 cash.

01:20:58.360 You're lying.

01:20:59.360 Behind the toilet.

01:21:00.460 Let me see it.

01:21:00.960 And then Joel Osteen comes out, and he's like, oh, there it is.

01:21:04.600 Like.

01:21:08.780 Oh, dang.

01:21:10.000 Oh, there it is.

01:21:11.160 we didn't realize 300 that's you know you hate i hate when that happens i accidentally lose 300k

01:21:16.460 behind the toilet and i'm going are we all accepting this answer for like 300k cash found

01:21:21.680 in like i think something else is going on here i don't know i'm not an expert i'm not an expert

01:21:26.680 if these walls could talk they'd say hey i need to get to a bank look at this this is real the

01:21:33.500 plumber was justin collie a plumber named justin collie found roughly 500 envelopes containing cash

01:21:38.980 checks and money orders hidden in a wall behind a loose toilet at joel osteen's lakewood church

01:21:44.380 in houston on november 10th 2021 the old loose toilet trick yeah yeah let me come over there

01:21:50.300 you heard you got that loose toilet and then look at the resolution there the church stated that the

01:21:54.620 original stolen amounts had been covered by insurance and that the recovered funds were

01:21:59.760 inventoried so you're telling me so it was stolen and then someone just put it in a behind a toilet

01:22:05.680 like what would be the purpose of that sounds like laundering it sounds a little bit like

01:22:10.200 maybe we need to be investigating that a little further houston police confirmed that the serial

01:22:15.440 numbers and dates on the recovered checks linked to the stash to an unsolved march 2014 burglary

01:22:20.960 were 600 000 about 200 000 in cash and 400 000 in checks think about the story they're trying to

01:22:26.140 tell us right now was reported stolen from the church safe so you stole it and instead of just

01:22:31.840 walking out with it you decided to put it in a

01:22:33.800 toilet like I don't think that happened

01:22:35.660 I think there might have been something going on inside of the church

01:22:37.900 and then you filed for insurance and you got money

01:22:40.020 and then like of course on Sunday when they

01:22:41.840 find it and it's a whole scandal it's just like

01:22:43.440 oh praise God

01:22:45.220 you know

01:22:48.940 prayed to St. Anthony and there it is

01:22:51.480 there it is

01:22:52.480 I'm going wait are we accepting

01:22:54.980 my money

01:22:58.180 has come

01:22:59.960 alone they're over there filing off their fingerprints i'm like guys come on i've been

01:23:09.100 around you don't just find 300k behind a toilet it's different times different times but yeah

01:23:15.460 i was like okay these mega churches are getting real mega you know well it's all everything is

01:23:20.720 like that's the thing about it's like i don't know it's a everything's a tough balance to take

01:23:26.900 care of yourself and not to get too and not to get caught up corrupted yeah um it's halloween

01:23:32.860 man it's turning into halloween um yeah what are some good what are some good halloween costumes

01:23:37.680 i wonder oh what are you gonna what are you gonna be for halloween probably brigitte's wiener

01:23:42.240 probably brigitte would be a great costume brigitte would be a great costume would people

01:23:46.420 be macron's wiener for halloween has anybody ever been that is that a crazy thing to say

01:23:50.060 i don't think um any i don't think so i think they'd be thrown in jail they don't have free

01:23:55.700 speech in france yeah really yeah we're headed that direction they don't have free speech in

01:24:00.400 france that's why the journalist that like covered the story had to like move out of france

01:24:04.880 yeah for eight years xavier poussard to work on the story they the government was just coming

01:24:09.780 after him have you ever spoken to him oh xavier poussard yeah he's the the whole basis of the

01:24:14.700 podcast i did was his work so he's the one who he's the real hero of the story i mean he was

01:24:19.800 you can't that's like that's old school journalism to commit yourself to one story for eight years

01:24:24.700 and people aren't used to it because we live in such an ADHD society.

01:24:28.680 That's been like me with the Charlie Kirk case.

01:24:30.080 I just haven't let it go.

01:24:31.420 And it's how journalism used to be.

01:24:35.020 You don't just cover something for five seconds and then just dismiss it.

01:24:38.740 Because you can't.

01:24:39.400 If it's actually a case or something that big, you have to read the documents.

01:24:45.560 You've got to follow what's going on.

01:24:46.780 You have to know the characters or a lot of characters.

01:24:49.400 I want to ask you about it really quick.

01:24:51.620 Let me see this.

01:24:52.140 So this says, France has freedom of speech, but it is not absolute and comes with specific legal limits.

01:24:57.280 So you don't have freedom of speech.

01:25:00.280 French people trying to be tricky.

01:25:02.340 So you don't have it.

01:25:04.020 We have freedom of speech, but it comes to...

01:25:07.860 Parlez-vous freedom?

01:25:09.080 All right, exactly.

01:25:11.320 Take that Statue of Liberty.

01:25:13.760 I never been.

01:25:14.320 Man, honestly, bro, and no disrespect to the French, bro, but I've never really been a big fan of the French, bro.

01:25:20.080 You know, I will say...

01:25:21.060 And that's fine with me.

01:25:21.640 And that's fine with me.

01:25:23.040 People in Paris are not like the people in the rest of France.

01:25:28.580 It's kind of like judging all of America based on New Yorkers.

01:25:32.140 That's fair.

01:25:32.500 Or more like L.A. people.

01:25:34.180 I just think, I don't know, my favorite place in the world is in France.

01:25:37.300 So it's called Ansi.

01:25:38.640 Can you look it up?

01:25:39.660 That's random.

01:25:40.400 What are you doing with all these places?

01:25:42.200 I was carousing.

01:25:43.200 I had a lady at the time and we was carousing through there.

01:25:45.760 Is this the basil lady?

01:25:46.980 Netflix and chilling?

01:25:47.960 No, different girl.

01:25:48.740 No?

01:25:49.260 My old girlfriend.

01:25:51.100 Ansi.

01:25:52.220 Can you see just the downtown?

01:25:53.660 Quiriné.

01:25:54.720 It's just a small place.

01:25:56.040 Wow, beautiful.

01:25:56.980 It's a little town over there.

01:25:58.440 Yeah.

01:25:58.900 Get you a little chocolate.

01:25:59.660 You must have really liked her.

01:26:00.660 It's like being in that show Chocolat.

01:26:02.320 You ever remember that movie?

01:26:02.840 You must have really liked her.

01:26:03.900 I did like her.

01:26:04.600 Yeah?

01:26:05.000 What happened?

01:26:05.980 Oh, I don't know what happened.

01:26:07.600 I think I was...

01:26:08.360 It was you.

01:26:09.180 I was cheating, probably.

01:26:10.240 Mm-hmm.

01:26:10.760 It was you.

01:26:11.220 Running around.

01:26:13.000 Just being just a wiener head.

01:26:15.420 That reporter was amazing.

01:26:17.140 That what?

01:26:17.760 That reporter in France.

01:26:19.200 Was he?

01:26:19.800 Yeah.

01:26:20.040 Did you ever have him on your show?

01:26:21.640 Yeah. So I actually went out and interviewed him in London because I just couldn't even comprehend the idea of dedicating yourself for eight years to one story.

01:26:33.000 Yeah.

01:26:33.320 Do you know what I'm saying? And then having to move your entire family. There's no upside for your family.

01:26:37.600 So they made his family move because he was-

01:26:40.040 No, he was getting chased by the government. They were doing things and they went after every single journalist that tried to cover the story.

01:26:46.020 What's his name? Picard or whatever?

01:26:47.440 Xavier Poussard.

01:26:48.680 Xavier Poussard.

01:26:49.920 Poussard, yeah.

01:26:50.600 and uh he just did the most amazing work and had to wait years even when he was filing for things

01:26:56.780 that he rightfully was supposed to get i mean it's like me right now trying to file flia requests

01:27:00.820 and the government just keeps telling us nope doesn't matter don't have to answer don't you

01:27:05.040 know and so he for eight years he fought them on this brigitte story and the the book becoming

01:27:11.080 brigitte which i based the podcast podcast series on is amazing it's absolutely amazing so um so

01:27:15.960 this is the guy who's, and what are

01:27:17.980 his major beliefs? Major

01:27:20.040 beliefs in regard to...

01:27:21.720 In regard to all of his research, the whole

01:27:24.260 goal of the research is

01:27:26.100 what? Is it just to...

01:27:27.740 He's never been sued, by the way, by Brigitte.

01:27:29.860 Isn't that crazy? Yeah. He's never been sued by

01:27:31.880 Brigitte for defamation. It says,

01:27:33.580 Xavier Bessard published articles and subsequently a book

01:27:35.820 titled Becoming Brigitte

01:27:37.020 that amplified, debunked

01:27:40.060 online... See? Debunked online

01:27:41.880 hoaxes. It's just not true. It's why you can never trust

01:27:44.020 the AI overview, because it's just the government.

01:27:45.540 So you're saying that what the AI overview here is saying is not true?

01:27:48.860 Yeah, it's never been debunked.

01:27:49.700 It's never been debunked, ever.

01:27:51.520 Let me read what it says real quick.

01:27:52.600 That amplified, debunked online hoaxes claiming Rajit was born biologically mailed these false narratives subsequently gained international traction after being shared by various commentators and media figures.

01:28:02.880 Looking at you, Candace Owens.

01:28:04.820 But what really happened?

01:28:07.480 For him, they never sued him, but they came after his businesses.

01:28:11.260 You know, it's the squeeze, like I was talking about.

01:28:12.680 one of the mechanisms is they'll like try to bankrupt you um kind of terrify you they went

01:28:17.560 after other journalists on the case and sued them for defamation never on the point that uh

01:28:23.000 Brigitte was born Jean-Michel Trogneau my lawsuit is not about whether or not Brigitte McCrone is a

01:28:27.360 man they always and that's what they do is they they try to win these cases on a technicality

01:28:31.960 like she's suing me like I said for mentioning MKUltra for saying that she stole her brother's

01:28:38.260 idea because she didn't steal it or whatever so in say accusing somebody of theft is accusing

01:28:44.200 somebody of being a criminal and that's basically what they did and then they tell the press and so

01:28:48.560 the press runs candace owens being sued for defamation for calling brigitte a man read the

01:28:53.020 case i'm not being sued for calling people we never go read the case nobody reads the case and

01:28:56.900 that's the problem with the the press and then what happens is you then go on to ai and it scrapes

01:29:02.840 and so it's candace owens is being sued for saying brigitte's a man i'm not being sued for saying

01:29:06.500 Brigitte's a man fuck it's she's never sued anyone for saying that she was born a man

01:29:09.980 and do people think that she was born a man a lot of lawsuits are like that now it's just for pr

01:29:15.060 reasons to say that you're suing over something that you're not suing of the entire because she's

01:29:19.560 got a small frame i don't know if she could hold a wiener up on if you had one pull her up

01:29:23.700 Brigitte's old now you know Brigitte's like 80 something now pull her body up a little bit or

01:29:29.000 not her body don't do it like that but just pull her up as a tall person not pull up Brigitte's

01:29:33.660 body i'm gonna strongly say reject do not do that right now yeah get that gander right there

01:29:41.960 oh that body couldn't hold a strong frank at all i'll tell you that straight up

01:29:47.360 the case is absolutely fascinating the real wiener right here is that dude next to her who is that

01:29:53.660 freaking one of the most protected people ever brigitte like is she really is she really is the

01:30:01.420 question do you uh how is really she is or is really he hey if he or not to he that is the

01:30:12.420 question if these vaginal walls could talk you know what i'm saying bro it's like hey they

01:30:19.660 wouldn't say a word because they're not here the little crazy story but brigitte i'm not taking

01:30:24.760 back anything that i've said that's for sure um we can't all be wieners exactly it's just that

01:30:31.180 The Brigitte story is crazy.

01:30:32.840 We gotta stop.

01:30:33.740 But if I had a little wiener, I'd fucking keep that bitch on me, bro.

01:30:36.600 If I was a woman, I wouldn't mind having a little wiener, probably.

01:30:39.480 Like, if you were a woman, you couldn't if you were a woman.

01:30:42.540 Right, but if you had one, I'd keep that thing on me, keep that drake on me.

01:30:46.780 Yeah, you would.

01:30:47.820 Pull it out every now and then.

01:30:49.120 Yeah, I sense.

01:30:50.060 Be like, hey, I'm going to set something in your hand, guess what it is or whatever.

01:30:52.680 Dude, do you think, this is a new game I like to play with people is.

01:30:56.780 Do you think you could.

01:30:57.700 I don't want to play that game.

01:30:58.600 Okay, sorry.

01:30:59.100 There's a follow-up there.

01:30:59.880 it's could you draw your wiener from not even looking at it just guessing what it looks like

01:31:05.700 i think it would be an awesome contest to have you had people and you had like a hundred people

01:31:10.560 they draw their wiener they don't show their wiener or anything they just draw their wiener

01:31:14.500 whoever gets closest wins almost maybe two thousand dollars so this is the thing where i

01:31:18.420 say women and men will never be able to understand each other why because i don't i don't think that

01:31:24.240 That's a thought that's ever crossed the mind of a woman thinking about what men could think about.

01:31:32.160 Oh, yeah, a little wiener contest, a little art.

01:31:34.440 Because I think we normally think like it's hot dogs.

01:31:37.660 The wiener competition is Kobayashi consuming as many hot dogs.

01:31:41.460 Oh, maybe rich women.

01:31:42.700 They want that Wagyu Frank or whatever.

01:31:44.560 Yeah, that's it.

01:31:46.120 So this, that competition.

01:31:47.680 I'm talking about the Lord's Lincoln Log.

01:31:50.900 I'm talking about that body wiener.

01:31:52.300 uh anyway let's move on sorry um you have done a lot of research probably maybe more than anybody

01:32:00.700 on the charlie kirk case i have right and i'm sorry about the loss of your friend thank you

01:32:05.540 um i've seen it's just some uh just you've been able to share some emotional moments over the

01:32:10.760 past year talking about him and some of you guys's relationship um what is the one thing about the

01:32:17.120 case uh that you just can't get over right like what's one thing about the case that keeps you

01:32:24.860 up at night that has you believing like there's something else going on here so if we're talking

01:32:31.280 about just the facts of the case the thing that everything fell apart instantly was when they said

01:32:36.520 that his neck stopped a 30-06 bullet that's so it's so crazy that we shouldn't be required to

01:32:42.340 have to argue it it's so it's you know from 150 feet away it's it's just nutty yeah I think that's

01:32:48.900 most I think that to me that was most people's like this is a red flag something's not right

01:32:53.340 yeah and then I would say on the broader aspects of the case the personality surrounding it

01:33:01.300 is the lack of transparency from the organization that's now run by his wife like that's kind of

01:33:09.280 People are learning things about what he was going through in his last days from me, Megyn Kelly, Tucker Carlson.

01:33:16.600 And it just seems that the organization has done a complete 180 from what he was going through.

01:33:21.400 And so that would be the most alarming, I guess, social aspects of the case is what's happening.

01:33:29.320 Obviously, last week, the UVU finally released the independent review.

01:33:35.200 And that's Utah Valley University?

01:33:36.420 Yeah. So for a year, they outsourced the Lake Forest Group to go through the see what went wrong that day. And so we have been told from his wife, from people that all of these things happen because UVU did this. Brian Harple went on Sean Ryan and said the rooftops weren't covered because of the chief of police. And here's the text message. And then what it exposed was that they were they were lying about everything.

01:34:03.620 And so that's the reason why they've just been attacking me all week

01:34:07.060 is because the UVU independent review came out,

01:34:09.540 and everyone should read it.

01:34:10.560 Like I always say, don't ever take my word for stuff.

01:34:13.120 Like I'm telling you what is in it,

01:34:14.580 but you should also go independently look at it

01:34:16.660 because it's shocking of, you know, they were the ones.

01:34:19.740 Turning Point USA demanded that he be outside,

01:34:22.160 and the university said, we don't recommend this.

01:34:25.060 You shouldn't, you know, this is not a good place.

01:34:26.640 Is that true?

01:34:27.840 Yeah, that's 100% true.

01:34:29.740 Why did they want him to be outside?

01:34:30.980 They claimed that it was because Charlie loved the amphitheater setup, and I don't doubt he liked the amphitheater setup, but I think when we now learned that the night before, he was worried he was going to be killed, and if UVU was saying, you should not do this, and they're forcing it.

01:34:51.260 Before they even knew what the event was going to be, their main thing was it has to be outside in the amphitheater, and I don't think Charlie was ride-or-die amphitheater.

01:34:57.660 I've done UVU with him.

01:34:58.680 We didn't do it in the amphitheater.

01:34:59.700 Pull that up.

01:35:00.200 Can you find something specific about that, Trevin?

01:35:02.520 You could find it in the, yeah, the UVU independent review.

01:35:07.000 And you could just search it.

01:35:09.220 Courtyard is what they call it throughout the courtyard.

01:35:12.120 And so when you realize that the insistence was coming from Turning Point USA and they tried to play it the opposite,

01:35:18.580 then they dedicate two pages to just debunking everything Brian Harpole said on the Sean Ryan episode.

01:35:24.620 And most crucially.

01:35:25.420 The UVU report does?

01:35:26.880 And this report is not theirs.

01:35:28.140 It's an independent outside group that sits in Chicago, Illinois.

01:35:32.420 So do you believe that this report is reliable or not reliable?

01:35:35.360 Everyone participated from the feds, the local police, UVU.

01:35:40.240 The only people that didn't participate was Turning Point USA.

01:35:42.420 So they had to go off of Turning Point's public statements.

01:35:45.900 And like they went off of Brian Harpole's interview with Sean Ryan.

01:35:49.700 And Brian Harpole is?

01:35:51.220 The security, one of the 13 security members that were there that day.

01:35:56.460 That's right.

01:35:56.800 I saw one Sean Ryan and he was talking about.

01:35:58.520 And so he kind of got out in front of it and said all of these things.

01:36:01.500 Like, he said the opposite.

01:36:03.320 He said that they told us the event has to be here.

01:36:06.140 Then we find out.

01:36:07.060 And they put in text messages, emails, and talked.

01:36:10.660 It's not like they're just saying, trust us, bro.

01:36:12.580 Got it.

01:36:13.880 It took a year.

01:36:14.860 The outdoor location insisted upon by TPUSA for their event

01:36:18.220 created significant protective operation considerations.

01:36:21.440 The speaking area was located in an open access campus environment

01:36:24.700 surrounded by buildings, elevated space, pedestrian routes, and multiple vantage points.

01:36:29.380 UVU personnel recognized and responded to some of these concerns,

01:36:32.540 including the Hall of Flags outdoor pedestrian walkway above the speaking location.

01:36:36.720 However, the planning process did not include a documented line of sight assessment.

01:36:41.500 So they had emails, and then we learned that it was Turning Point Headquarters

01:36:44.820 that requested this event to happen, which was a major question that we had.

01:36:48.340 Who requested this event so late in the day, a couple of weeks before,

01:36:51.740 when that's not how these events typically come together,

01:36:53.500 And it turned out it was Turning Point headquarters, not even the student.

01:36:56.100 The student chapter didn't say, hey, can we have Charlie?

01:36:58.480 They were like, you're getting Charlie.

01:37:01.060 And so call the school and see if that, you know.

01:37:03.700 So Turning Point approached the school about him being there?

01:37:07.160 Yeah.

01:37:07.440 They wanted the school typically because, you know, I used to work for them.

01:37:10.540 The students request, they'd say what speakers they want to have.

01:37:13.400 For sure.

01:37:13.700 And so then they're making a request to headquarters.

01:37:16.600 Like, I want Candace.

01:37:17.920 I want Charlie.

01:37:18.640 I want whoever's on the roster.

01:37:20.160 And they try to make it happen for them because obviously we can't do every school.

01:37:22.900 and it's kind of like a reward system.

01:37:24.760 How well did your chapter perform?

01:37:27.040 This time, uniquely, headquarters reached out

01:37:30.420 to the student chapter and they put the guy's email in there

01:37:34.700 because he's like, my field director just reached out to me.

01:37:37.880 They're being vague, but they want the courtyard.

01:37:40.040 Is it available?

01:37:41.040 Got it.

01:37:41.300 So that's a big problem.

01:37:43.240 But wouldn't Charlie have had something to do with that?

01:37:44.920 Like saying, this is what I want?

01:37:46.480 Like, was he part of TPS, Turning Point Headquarters?

01:37:50.000 I can just tell you my experience working there

01:37:52.260 is like they the students give all the requests there's a meeting about what events you want to

01:37:56.660 do sure if charlie would say like i really want to do like the big ones the big three like berkeley

01:38:01.800 stanford and ucla we did those because you know they're going to be like really fun events this

01:38:07.340 but those kids they cannot come together as quickly as the point because they you're fighting

01:38:11.780 with the administration they don't want you there as a conservative on campus they want to make sure

01:38:15.380 things are safe they make you know all of these specifications they can only be this many people

01:38:20.220 Everything's got to be gluten-free, all that.

01:38:21.960 Yes, so people were wondering also why there was no ambulance on standby.

01:38:25.060 Well, it turns out this report reveals that the president was like headquarters basically filled out the form.

01:38:34.460 They told them there was only going to be 600 people, and they ticked no on needing an ambulance.

01:38:39.460 No way.

01:38:39.840 So every single security measure—

01:38:42.280 That seems like a crazy thing to put.

01:38:44.380 Yeah.

01:38:44.840 That seems crazy to put that.

01:38:46.040 Yeah, why would you say yes to the ambulance in general?

01:38:47.980 what if there's seven people around dude if i'm even swimming with two of my friends i'll have

01:38:51.680 somebody around if it's an option yeah right if it's an option and i was saying that i had never

01:38:56.200 done an event where there wasn't an ambulance on standby and and i worked with them for years

01:39:00.720 so all of these things and if they had been forthcoming if they had been not gaslighting

01:39:06.540 us for a year if they had been like we reviewed our product turning point usa came out and was

01:39:11.040 like we made so many mistakes you know we actually were the ones who told them not to have an

01:39:17.260 ambulance instead they were like on a high mighty horse like high on their own supply

01:39:21.340 UVU did this the police chief and it turns out the police chief of UVU is the hero of this he

01:39:26.660 kept being he was the one that said oh we're gonna need more people there's actually on your show

01:39:30.620 no he hasn't spoken to anybody but they they basically tried to blame this guy for a year

01:39:36.060 and he was the only person that seemed concerned about Charlie's safety they never he tried to

01:39:40.800 meet up with them on the day of the event they never did a walkthrough for the September 10th

01:39:44.840 TPSA event, the director of emergency management and safety assigned two UVU emergency medical services personnel.

01:39:50.660 Both were EMT technicians trained to provide pre-hospital emergency medical care before patients reach a hospital.

01:39:56.600 EMTs may deliver non-invasive life-saving interventions and help stabilize patients during emergencies.

01:40:01.120 Yeah, it's elsewhere where they talk about the forms and they checked off no.

01:40:04.900 It is important to note that the EMTs could not transport patients, including Charlie Kirk, to the hospital.

01:40:09.040 No ambulance was staged on site for the September 10th.

01:40:13.020 Yeah, but it tells you elsewhere why there was no ambulance.

01:40:15.320 And it was basically like once you book the event, then there's a form that they send you.

01:40:20.100 And the person who was the student chapter head.

01:40:24.100 Didn't get it done.

01:40:24.860 No, he did.

01:40:25.900 But they said no.

01:40:26.840 So it's like you – why are you telling the public like you're some victim of what UVU did when you guys were the authors of it?

01:40:35.700 And they also controlled ticketing.

01:40:37.000 So UVU, when they say, oh, it was understaffed, they never – when the police officer on September 3rd asked them how many people are coming, they never told them numbers.

01:40:46.900 But they knew how many.

01:40:48.080 They were the only one.

01:40:49.240 Headquarters was in control.

01:40:50.440 But you said UVU was in charge of ticketing.

01:40:52.660 No, they weren't.

01:40:53.440 Oh, they weren't.

01:40:53.960 Turning Point USA requested to be – they did not want to use the university's ticketing system.

01:40:58.560 I mean it's a damning report.

01:40:59.660 I mean you have to read it.

01:41:00.560 It's crazy.

01:41:01.160 and it really shows you how manipulative they've been over the last year in their communications to

01:41:07.800 the media saying that they want answers not part why would they not give me one reason they would

01:41:12.000 not participate in this like in the beginning it lists everyone that participated from the feds to

01:41:17.180 the local police to the ems i mean these people are giving their text messages their emails allowing

01:41:20.920 them to investigate for an entire year what went wrong there is no reason in my mind that they

01:41:26.140 would not participate in this unless they knew that their hands weren't clean and i saw one person

01:41:30.920 trying to say, well, it's because there's a pending suit. This is not about Tyler Robinson.

01:41:33.780 This is about the lead up to the event and what safety measures were taken and what went wrong and

01:41:39.240 why ambulance was not on standby. This has nothing to do with them going into the forensics of Charlie

01:41:44.380 Kirk being shot or what happened. TPUSA preferred to hold the event in the fountain courtyard and

01:41:49.260 use its own ticketing system rather than university system. And then they blamed them for not having

01:41:54.520 enough security. Those decisions placed the event in an area that was more difficult to control and

01:41:58.900 Unlimited UVU's availability to obtain reliable, real-time information regarding anticipated attendance and crowd size.

01:42:06.600 UVU should have retained decision-making authority over key security-related issues, including venue selection, ticketing, access control, and other conditions necessary to support campus safety.

01:42:15.340 It's unfortunate, too, that mostly for this university, because this is probably a university that's just trying to, you know, just trying to grow itself and, you know, keep it together.

01:42:23.980 It's a place that obviously a lot of people come to

01:42:26.100 that wanted to hear a speaker and be a part of something.

01:42:29.160 Yeah, and they were told there was going to be 600 people.

01:42:31.840 Turning Point never updated the numbers, and then there's 3,000.

01:42:34.180 They wouldn't give them access to the tickets,

01:42:35.580 and the police officer was asking these questions on September 3rd.

01:42:38.620 And Dan Flood said he didn't know how many people were going to go be there,

01:42:41.960 and that Turning Point headquarters controlled it.

01:42:44.420 Who's another good source outside of yourself to discuss,

01:42:48.060 like go through a lot of this stuff with, do you think?

01:42:50.520 You mean like just independent investigators

01:42:52.540 or people I feel like the only sources are people that are investigating this independently

01:42:58.040 because it feels like we've just been the Department of War has been protecting this

01:43:01.860 narrative and lying to everybody and the journalists have been so dishonest in everything

01:43:06.440 but I really love the work of appreciate the work of Baron Coleman and he's done fantastic work

01:43:13.120 looking into different areas of the case there are so many YouTubers that have just done fantastic

01:43:20.040 work i mean from being on the ground you know pulling the warrants seeing what happened that

01:43:25.000 day and it's crazy that we would expect for charlie's wife who is at the helm of this massive

01:43:32.300 organization that she would dedicate an entire department to doing this right and nothing

01:43:37.140 wanted to accept the narrative 10 days later was back in the office and everyone needs to move on

01:43:41.960 in fact explicitly their their team members which i haven't shown the so tpsa doesn't have their own

01:43:49.820 private investigation going on no they accept the narrative fully do you think tyler robinson did

01:43:54.620 it i i do not believe tyler robinson killed charlie kirk do i believe that he was a part of

01:44:00.440 some broader thing that was going on that day was he around the campus yes could he potentially

01:44:05.760 be guilty of you know the charge of hiding clothes which people said that he was at the

01:44:12.940 dairy queen doing that absolutely concealing evidence and things of that nature absolutely

01:44:18.180 do not he's not the person on the rooftop the nobody shot charlie from the rooftop of losey

01:44:22.580 is where i'm at and so i look into alternative theories of whether or not charlie was hit

01:44:29.560 closer by whether or not it was on him um and something explosive went off that makes more

01:44:35.520 sense to me based on the injuries that charlie has and the impossibility and how quickly they

01:44:40.760 tried to hide the footage behind charlie's head which would have shown the public that the bull

01:44:45.340 didn't go through. Well, so bizarre that immediately they went and took those cameras,

01:44:48.740 took the cards out of those cameras. Yeah. And specifically the one behind the set. And that's

01:44:52.220 why, because I, I, I believe they were going to tell the public that the bullet went through

01:44:56.620 because they were going to go through your six narrative. And then along came Candace and I'm

01:45:01.460 the one that revealed that it didn't. And that's why they have been, have so much animosity toward

01:45:05.520 me because it, from that point on, they couldn't control the narrative because you were asking

01:45:10.300 people to believe the impossible you're like pigs fly that's it and they they can't prove that so

01:45:17.120 i to them represent the complete unraveling of the narrative that would have been fine and people

01:45:22.800 would have believed that the bullet went through and now they have to say that bullets do weird

01:45:26.540 things and that necks do weird things and right people are saying yeah bullets do crazy stuff

01:45:31.600 they'll stop by their girl's house on the way to their wherever they're going you're like what the

01:45:35.900 like what is even what are you talking about like is this this is a 30 odd six or 100 for the yards

01:45:40.620 like it's not gonna it's an into a neck of all places like if you maybe you could get there if

01:45:45.240 he got shot in the sternum or like you know a neck come on man i want i want to read this theory this

01:45:51.260 is the one that to me that stood out the most the exploding microphone theory is an unfounded

01:45:55.440 conspiracy claim suggesting that conservative activist charlie kirk was killed by an explosive

01:45:59.980 device attached to his microphone rather than by a gunshot if you looked at where that what there's

01:46:05.160 more evidence of is that something was on charlie and hit him and he was hunched over and hit him

01:46:09.080 right in the neck and it actually created a shallow wound uh but it hit his artery obviously

01:46:14.560 exploded we then presented the evidence which was never supposed to be seen of what the car looked

01:46:18.920 like and you see just what looks like black shards all over and so that's so you're saying that yeah

01:46:26.700 can you get me this trevin okay thank you so much it should be a just as simple like it's a road

01:46:32.080 r-o-d-e exploding microphone theory but again going back to our point about google like this

01:46:36.640 shouldn't be hard it's a pretty big theory that's out there but they're just like this is not true

01:46:39.940 this did not happen that is the reason why they put that ai overview because that's the state's

01:46:44.520 narrative do you think that that this could be the reason not charlie kirk specifically but just

01:46:48.960 overall right that that's why ai is so important so fast right now because they need to be able to

01:46:56.880 have a complete control over the information. It's a deleting of all old information, anything

01:47:02.360 that's not written in a book, anything that's not entered into AIs won't even be able to be usable

01:47:06.540 or searchable anymore. So imagine they're kind of doing what was done like in Cuba, like delete a

01:47:11.560 file, right? Once it's out, it's gone forever. So they're kind of like, and then that kind of locks

01:47:16.720 you in to this whole new space of information. And once you start to believe what you're only

01:47:21.180 able to search for, then that's where you'll be stuck forever. Like once they can delete the past

01:47:25.560 and all you have is this fictional narrative

01:47:27.840 of this current

01:47:29.780 or semi-past

01:47:31.000 a never-ending present

01:47:33.920 that's what they did in Cuba

01:47:35.320 they got rid of all the books in the 40s

01:47:37.400 that's what they're doing in Gaza

01:47:38.880 that's what we're doing in the Middle East

01:47:42.180 just destroying ancient

01:47:43.380 dang

01:47:45.140 getting rid of history

01:47:46.740 they want a world where they can control

01:47:48.200 and we're going to live in an ever-present

01:47:49.400 it's dystopian

01:47:52.240 but that's what they want

01:47:54.100 but I think it's now being stopped

01:47:55.600 because people are aware of it

01:47:56.720 and having the conversation

01:47:57.740 of what's going on right now.

01:47:59.300 Why don't I recognize Google?

01:48:00.880 Like you used to just be able to Google that

01:48:02.600 and then the first thing that would have popped up

01:48:04.260 would have been John Bray's video

01:48:05.520 describing the theory

01:48:07.100 because that's the thing people have watched the most

01:48:09.120 and people, this is a big theory.

01:48:10.440 So that should be if algorithms are fair at the top.

01:48:13.720 Instead, they give you the AI model

01:48:15.040 which scrapes the mainstream media

01:48:16.740 which is controlled by the state apparatus

01:48:18.300 and they give you, this is a debunk.

01:48:21.440 Brigitte McCrubbin, this is a debunk.

01:48:22.800 Yeah, there ain't no wiener here.

01:48:25.380 Exactly.

01:48:25.980 Everything's debunked.

01:48:26.920 And so you're just getting the Department of War's narrative.

01:48:30.040 And so you have to know how to research.

01:48:32.200 And this is why they're trying to get a handle on podcasting because it's disrupted the state media.

01:48:39.800 And, you know, I guess you could say the monopoly the state media had on ideas.

01:48:43.100 And it's because what they're saying doesn't make sense.

01:48:46.360 I mean, how many times?

01:48:47.860 And in part, by the way, the reason why we got here was because they overplayed their hand during COVID.

01:48:52.800 So people don't trust the mainstream media.

01:48:54.240 Yeah.

01:48:55.360 You don't get to do that twice.

01:48:56.640 You don't get to now then do COVID and then try to Charlie,

01:48:59.640 like Charlie Kirk us too.

01:49:00.900 Like you don't do COVID to Charlie and then be like,

01:49:03.360 start repeating the social distancing, save lives, you know,

01:49:07.400 save, wear a mask, save lives.

01:49:09.080 And they're like 30-06 can do strange things.

01:49:11.760 And it's like 30-06, not working this time.

01:49:14.000 Some of the bullets will do backflips now.

01:49:15.580 It's like these new, like, kind of like Jamaican bullets

01:49:17.900 and they'll backflip on the way to the destination.

01:49:20.560 Yeah.

01:49:21.280 And you're like, what?

01:49:22.380 It's a fucking bullet.

01:49:24.080 They're like, no, it's a new Jamaican bullet, man.

01:49:26.900 It fucking pulls.

01:49:28.040 It'll gamble on the way to the destination.

01:49:30.720 And then also common sense of the Tyler Roberts and stuff is like people generally don't do nothing and then do murder and jump off of building.

01:49:38.500 First off, jumping off of a building.

01:49:40.520 Yeah.

01:49:41.140 It takes some guts.

01:49:42.320 Just try what it takes to jump like the first time.

01:49:45.280 Just go without looking down, seeing if you can.

01:49:48.780 Oh, yeah.

01:49:49.460 If I even get on the third step of my step stool, I get a little bit nervous.

01:49:52.380 Right.

01:49:52.780 Pull it up.

01:49:53.460 See how far that jump was, but leave this up.

01:49:55.080 I want to read this Rode theory real quick.

01:49:57.820 Do you have that Rode mic theory?

01:49:59.820 It alleges that the wireless microphone transmitter on his shirt,

01:50:02.620 often identified online as a Rode wireless pro,

01:50:04.700 contained a small explosive or shaped charge

01:50:06.800 rather than Kirk being killed by a rifle shot.

01:50:09.560 Right.

01:50:10.280 And to be clear, I'm not saying Rode did this.

01:50:12.160 Someone tampered with their mic.

01:50:14.160 And wasn't there a connection to Tennessee because they had allegedly—

01:50:18.100 Yeah, so I have never covered that.

01:50:19.940 There was this sort of mysterious explosion of an AES plant, which did manufacture accurate energetic systems was the name of it.

01:50:32.360 The online theory of this Tennessee Manufacturer Connection says that if Charlie Kirk's apparent road wireless pro unit had been weaponized, the explosive component could have originated from AES because AES makes specialized energetic products.

01:50:46.480 AES is Acute Energetic Systems, which is based in Bucksnort, Humphreys County, Tennessee.

01:50:54.700 The more elaborate version specifically claimed AES had a contract involving miniaturized anti-personnel.

01:51:00.160 And they did.

01:51:00.980 There was a contract that was shown to make a small explosive.

01:51:04.780 And so people have covered that.

01:51:06.480 And then this, it just exploded.

01:51:08.260 The whole thing, what was it, October 10th?

01:51:10.420 Right.

01:51:10.880 Right. And then that whole facility where some people allege that the microphone that was that are the rigged microphone, the rigged microphone, the rigged microphone was it then points to a deadly AES facility explosion.

01:51:23.100 So this place one month after Charlie Kirk was killed, this whole place blew up as supposed evidence of a cover up or destruction of records.

01:51:31.420 Yes. And everyone died. I think there was only two people that survived that were in that particular.

01:51:38.020 I mean, there was multiple.

01:51:39.540 That's Halloween.

01:51:39.980 I never covered this because I always wait until their piece of information where somebody who, I don't know, maybe a family member of somebody who worked there, but they definitely, they contracted with the army. And so it definitely was weird. It was weird. The timing of it was weird. But a lot of people have looked into this and said, what's going on here?

01:52:01.060 And again, when everyone around the situation is just accepting the narrative immediately 10 days after with no questions and wanting to move on, that's not, that obviously the public is going to sniff that out and go, this is not normal.

01:52:15.240 We have questions.

01:52:15.880 So how do you not have questions?

01:52:17.000 Right.

01:52:17.280 You know, like we have questions.

01:52:19.400 There's nobody to ask our questions anymore.

01:52:21.460 They're just like, that's it.

01:52:22.620 It's really sad.

01:52:23.760 He's gone forever.

01:52:24.980 We're going to do this big memorial and we're going to be really happy and we're going to be dressed up.

01:52:28.440 We're going to celebrate and then we're going to move on.

01:52:29.900 And his wife has the company.

01:52:31.060 If you ask any more questions, you should be in prison.

01:52:33.320 You should be locked up.

01:52:33.980 You should be sued for defamation.

01:52:35.520 That's not going to sit well with the public.

01:52:39.080 And so they've kind of, they've sort of come undone because people are still asking questions.

01:52:45.220 Yeah.

01:52:45.620 And this says right here on September 23rd, AES received a $120 million firm fixed price contract from Army Contracting Command Rock Island for the procurement of TNT.

01:52:58.320 some people are saying that some of this

01:53:00.680 order could have had

01:53:01.860 that some of that

01:53:04.880 funding would have been part of

01:53:06.540 that funding could have been connected there somehow

01:53:08.460 the

01:53:10.140 what is I mean it's

01:53:12.300 it's Halloween

01:53:13.640 I'm McCrone's

01:53:16.700 wiener

01:53:17.500 I'm the ghost of Charlie Cook

01:53:20.440 I

01:53:21.560 what is oh here's the guy jumping off this building

01:53:24.380 I just feel like if you're not

01:53:26.280 Like, the first time, you just kind of would have some, you'd be a little more concerned, you know?

01:53:32.660 Like, am I going to make this jump sort of a thing?

01:53:34.940 Never been to this campus before.

01:53:37.020 You know what I mean?

01:53:37.800 That's a pretty big jump.

01:53:39.180 It's pretty big.

01:53:40.160 Was he an athletic guy, though?

01:53:41.760 No.

01:53:43.220 No.

01:53:44.100 Huh.

01:53:44.780 Thin guy, fisher.

01:53:46.380 And was he allegedly a homosexual fellow or not?

01:53:49.280 Yes.

01:53:51.200 A lot of gay dudes can jump pretty far now.

01:53:53.880 I mean, I did, yes.

01:53:56.280 I'll just say yes to that.

01:53:57.540 Times are different.

01:53:59.940 You got a damn, bro, you got a damn.

01:54:03.580 Yes.

01:54:04.460 You have a, yeah, I know gay dudes jump damn six feet, seven feet.

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01:54:39.700 What is the strongest piece of evidence that supports that Tyler Robinson did this?

01:54:43.220 So that everything isn't...

01:54:44.620 The state's strongest piece of evidence is the text, the alleged text messages between him and his lover.

01:54:50.360 And I find that not to be compelling because his lover's testimony was prerecorded in a way that they would never allow it to play out.

01:55:00.560 Like it's only because there was this basically hearsay clause that they could just use hearsay.

01:55:04.760 They could not ask him any questions back.

01:55:06.800 You know, the defense couldn't like question him at all.

01:55:09.000 And so he just recorded his testimony and said, these are the messages where he fully confessed to the crime.

01:55:13.640 That seems suspect to me.

01:55:15.060 I don't care if you're a drug dealer selling like a gram of pot.

01:55:19.220 you're not going to fully text a full confession

01:55:21.260 I did it, here's when, why, how

01:55:23.020 it was totally crazy that you would try

01:55:25.220 to get away with it but then also text his full confession

01:55:27.380 and then Lance, that's who his

01:55:29.220 lover is, or his boyfriend

01:55:31.100 was, is granted immunity

01:55:33.040 for this testimony. So that means he can

01:55:35.200 say whatever he wants and he won't be liable

01:55:37.280 by the courts. Why does

01:55:39.080 he need use immunity?

01:55:40.900 Why does that matter? But why could it matter?

01:55:43.400 Let's look at it from the other side. It could matter because

01:55:45.540 he could need immunity because

01:55:47.300 maybe they would

01:55:48.100 what think that

01:55:50.200 no the story is he just did this randomly

01:55:52.760 Lance had no idea so if

01:55:54.600 he was implicated in some way of like

01:55:56.860 I gave him the nope Lance says

01:55:58.900 he slept through the whole thing slept through the whole thing

01:56:01.000 had no idea he was going to do it

01:56:02.060 I know this I have some gay family

01:56:04.820 members and pretty

01:56:06.020 or semi gay or whatever and they

01:56:08.460 I know this if my

01:56:10.220 if one guy is

01:56:12.660 out there shooting somebody or something

01:56:14.640 the other guy is going to be up

01:56:16.520 and milling around having a celsius no he says he slept through everything even when he clutching

01:56:22.960 his chest or whatever he found out when he got these messages he was just why did you do it's

01:56:27.320 so staged it's like every single answer yeah and that was also the problem it's like it's not like

01:56:31.900 he said one thing like hey need to see you let's meet up and then he tells a story that like when

01:56:36.160 they met up he told him what he did in person it's like people don't believe this like who texts

01:56:40.640 every layer of a confession here's where i did here's how i did it here's what i was wearing

01:56:44.860 if it just feels very set up.

01:56:46.160 Here's what I was wearing

01:56:46.740 is what a gay dude would text to his buddy though.

01:56:48.820 Like I was wearing this or whatever.

01:56:50.540 I think he did say in the messages

01:56:52.100 that he changed or whatever.

01:56:53.900 Like never shooting somebody again in this.

01:56:55.540 I changed outfits.

01:56:56.280 It's like exactly what the fact was like,

01:56:57.340 hey, we gotta have to,

01:56:57.940 these are all the holes.

01:56:58.660 Can you just put this in the message sort of a thing?

01:57:00.420 Zoom in on it, let me see.

01:57:01.320 Yeah, give us your motive, you know?

01:57:02.620 It's like every single piece of it is right there.

01:57:06.120 Give us your motive.

01:57:07.000 Some hate just can't be negotiated.

01:57:09.460 Shouldn't be long until I can come home,

01:57:11.620 but I gotta grab my rifle still

01:57:13.860 to be honest I had hoped to keep this secret till I died of old age I am sorry to involve you

01:57:19.680 you want the one who did it right you weren't the one who did it right I am I'm sorry oh that's

01:57:27.320 very sense and sensibility isn't it like I loved him as he loved me or whatever you know that's

01:57:34.140 very uh William Bronte or whatever that guy's name why run if you're just gonna test text a

01:57:38.460 whole confession why run right why run what are you running from why are you a dairy queen you

01:57:42.500 We're going to get caught writing an entire novel describing where you were, how you did

01:57:46.560 it, what you were wearing, how you changed the clothes.

01:57:48.740 I'll never shoot someone again in a JaVinci jacket or whatever.

01:57:52.440 Even down to the outfit.

01:57:53.740 He's discussing it.

01:57:54.680 And so when people saw the messages.

01:57:57.300 These sandals do not go with murder.

01:57:59.680 I'll tell you that, Frank.

01:58:00.940 I'm waiting just around the corner trying to grab my rifle.

01:58:03.480 Is that what he says?

01:58:04.420 No, they grab some crazy old dude.

01:58:06.020 I'm then interrogated in someone in similar clothing.

01:58:08.480 I had planned to grab my rifle from the drop point shortly after.

01:58:11.820 but most of that side of town

01:58:13.520 got locked down

01:58:14.300 he's not writing all this

01:58:15.720 the drop point

01:58:16.760 I mean just common sense

01:58:18.400 the drop point to most gay dudes

01:58:20.020 is a place to buy a little bag

01:58:21.700 maybe in some poppers

01:58:23.220 so you and your buddy

01:58:24.060 can get wicked or whatever

01:58:25.180 it sounds like a cop

01:58:25.920 is writing them

01:58:26.580 it's like okay

01:58:27.100 what do we need now

01:58:27.580 motive

01:58:27.900 what do we need drop point

01:58:29.080 oh what do we need

01:58:29.700 like you see all coverage

01:58:31.660 the public could not ask

01:58:32.680 any questions

01:58:33.260 why'd you do it

01:58:34.500 who what when where

01:58:35.940 why how

01:58:36.580 yeah

01:58:37.080 and then he just writes it

01:58:38.260 writes it all

01:58:38.940 and so these messages

01:58:40.920 didn't register as real

01:58:41.800 this is their

01:58:42.820 this is the state's

01:58:43.780 strongest piece of evidence

01:58:44.840 that he did it

01:58:45.360 and then his buddy

01:58:46.520 first of all

01:58:47.100 I'll say this

01:58:47.600 his boyfriend

01:58:48.080 doesn't really give a fuck

01:58:49.520 like he's over here

01:58:50.260 ranting

01:58:50.680 that's the other thing

01:58:51.040 I just told you

01:58:51.640 that I killed someone

01:58:52.440 and you're not gonna be like

01:58:52.880 his buddy's like

01:58:53.520 who else knows

01:58:54.460 or whatever

01:58:54.940 stay safe he says

01:58:56.500 I wouldn't even answer

01:58:57.380 because I wouldn't want

01:58:57.960 to be implicated

01:58:58.580 first off

01:58:59.420 first of all

01:58:59.980 I'm not answering

01:59:00.880 you're right

01:59:01.620 even if my best friend

01:59:02.980 text me I just

01:59:03.560 murdered somebody

01:59:04.160 I would be like

01:59:05.720 phone off

01:59:06.940 yeah

01:59:07.680 didn't receive it

01:59:09.420 I'd be like

01:59:09.980 oh fuck

01:59:10.560 hold on a second

01:59:11.120 and I got another call or something like that.

01:59:12.780 I would do something.

01:59:13.900 I'm not even texting back.

01:59:15.180 Yeah.

01:59:15.740 Because I'm just like not texting back.

01:59:17.920 I would do this one.

01:59:19.180 Yeah.

01:59:20.120 Yeah.

01:59:20.860 Exactly.

01:59:21.340 And that is it.

01:59:22.320 Maybe two of those.

01:59:23.780 There's no way I'm texting back.

01:59:25.000 Common sense to me says,

01:59:26.020 I don't know what this,

01:59:27.180 but I'm going to find another friend,

01:59:28.460 talk about it.

01:59:28.840 He texts me.

01:59:29.220 This is crazy.

01:59:30.460 Like I'm not.

01:59:30.940 I'm not being like,

01:59:31.740 stay safe.

01:59:32.700 Or I love you,

01:59:33.700 Morsy's muah, muah, muah.

01:59:35.400 Muah, muah, muah.

01:59:36.660 Okay.

01:59:37.320 That is,

01:59:37.940 what are we talking about?

01:59:38.880 Muah, muah, muah.

01:59:40.680 What?

01:59:41.120 what drop what you're doing look under the keyboard and they said he hand wrote a confession

01:59:46.360 but then he burned it or somebody burned it drop what you were doing look under my keyboard or

01:59:51.320 whatever and that could be a full letter that he allegedly wrote and said i i did this but then he

01:59:57.840 burned it but then he also then wrote it in a text so why write the letter i mean the whole thing just

02:00:01.520 doesn't make any sense right why did have you had lance on the boyfriend lance is protected by the

02:00:06.800 feds immediately had federal protection witness protection but does it you can't find him do you

02:00:11.740 think you know i mean people know where he is they know that he's in texas but he's just he's

02:00:17.700 i think he's the person who was much more involved in this oh you think so you so you think lance got

02:00:22.760 to tyler early and somehow even was able to help him get in a position to be set up to where he is

02:00:27.740 yes because he would have access to all this stuff they're roommates so you could get his

02:00:31.000 stuff drop it wherever is there a picture of lance anywhere yeah dude that's crazy candace

02:00:36.140 What if that's it?

02:00:37.420 I do.

02:00:37.820 That's my sense is that Lance is, and I think generally he's much more, I think he's blackmailed.

02:00:42.640 He was, you know, troubled kid.

02:00:44.120 He's kind of the personality you're looking for, like troubled kid and like into the furry community, which is like you create an avatar of yourself.

02:00:54.800 So there's some dissociative personality, definitely got in a lot of trouble, was passed around from his family members, volatile, you know, was addicted to drugs.

02:01:04.880 was into weird internet stuff like he's if i'm csi this is the person the profile of the individual

02:01:11.260 that we'd be looking for and you know there's a whole blackmail system so if you're on doing

02:01:15.980 weird stuff on the internet that's him yes that's lance i mean what what is even fucking going on

02:01:24.160 and what is he wearing that car it's like a that's a that's a furry thing oh they just said

02:01:31.100 he's ever been on airplanes a lot this is unbelievable dude what is can we get any other

02:01:37.560 pictures and do we even know his last name that's him in the court hearing like the pre-recorded

02:01:41.940 testimony which they the defense wasn't allowed to ask many questions because it was a preliminary

02:01:46.520 hearing so this looks like a show it feels like a show what are the side effects of oh the lance

02:01:54.020 twigs so that's him too and now he's out now he's on survivor no what yeah i think

02:02:01.060 That's just an old picture of him.

02:02:03.680 Which team was he on?

02:02:07.840 Shooters Twink or whatever?

02:02:10.820 Was he Team Shooters Twink?

02:02:12.420 What is even fucking happening, dude?

02:02:14.900 It's weird.

02:02:15.280 It's Halloween.

02:02:15.720 It's all very weird.

02:02:17.960 It's Halloween.

02:02:18.740 So it's all just attack Candace for not accepting, you know, ruining the narrative, I guess, is what it was supposed to be.

02:02:25.140 I ruined the narrative.

02:02:26.180 so by like by sharing like bringing this narrative to light right that like people think that

02:02:31.260 something else happened i do believe that people think something else happened right because it

02:02:35.760 seems so usually if there's a shooter of somebody that's a big thing the court case is a huge thing

02:02:41.560 where you're seeing all of it and you're like they're like trying to get like information from

02:02:46.060 the guy and everything and it doesn't none of that's even happening it's almost like it's just

02:02:50.140 disappeared completely well it's the actual hearing has to now has to start so they had the

02:02:56.440 preliminary hearing which basically is just probative and they say well we have enough

02:02:59.700 evidence to move it forward and so now the trial of tyler robinson will begin and will you be able

02:03:04.580 to go to the trial i'm not going there i'm not there's no chance i'm going to utah i will follow

02:03:09.960 it i will watch it live i will do what i do take notes like i did with the preliminary hearing you

02:03:15.140 You look nice in there.

02:03:16.280 I think there's some weird stuff.

02:03:18.160 You think it's dark arts?

02:03:19.400 Happening in Utah.

02:03:21.280 Oh, yeah, dude.

02:03:22.200 I'll tell you there is because I took an electric bike.

02:03:24.740 My brother lives there.

02:03:25.760 And I e-biked about two miles from his house and saw some stuff.

02:03:29.180 But what's like the two-minute version of like what do you think happened to Charlie Kirk?

02:03:33.340 I think Charlie was taken out by the deep state.

02:03:35.300 And it was because of his shifting views on Israel.

02:03:37.840 You do?

02:03:38.280 Yeah.

02:03:38.560 That's my opinion.

02:03:39.700 And do you think his like Turning Point USA people knew that?

02:03:43.100 i think it's hard given everything that we now know a year on and the way like again their lack

02:03:51.560 of engagement and also blatant lies like brian harpole told it's hard for me to imagine a scenario

02:03:59.300 where no one in that organization knew or peripheral to the organization knew it's

02:04:04.080 it's hard for me to imagine that you'd have to have an insider kind of i think so

02:04:08.720 because otherwise why not be instantly forthcoming i mean again i'm speaking to common common sense

02:04:15.140 here but yeah if you have nothing to hide you have nothing to hide so when people if you said

02:04:20.820 candace what were you doing on september 10th here's my whole phone i was i was sitting at

02:04:24.720 the table with the team we were working on the show savannah came downstairs and told us that

02:04:30.080 charlie had been shot and then we stopped every you know so i can't imagine a scenario where they

02:04:36.840 try to go well because the hearings you know the hearings going on that's why and people can't be

02:04:40.660 forthcoming what would the truth how could that impact the hearing negatively either this person

02:04:46.900 did or he didn't right so if you have candace owens's text messages from that day at that time

02:04:52.020 and i say well i'm not giving them to you because it could you know potentially put the case at risk

02:04:56.860 that doesn't make any sense yeah it doesn't make any sense how could it put it at risk

02:05:00.100 is going to introduce a fact

02:05:01.820 that means that

02:05:02.380 Tyler Robinson's innocent

02:05:03.560 so for me

02:05:05.880 everything that he was going through

02:05:07.780 the way they even lied about that

02:05:09.920 the Israel shift

02:05:12.720 and I just feel like

02:05:15.140 people only lie

02:05:15.920 when they have something to hide

02:05:16.960 I do not think

02:05:19.720 everybody around him

02:05:22.040 has their hands clean

02:05:22.880 and I think again

02:05:23.840 that's largely

02:05:24.440 I've been vindicated on

02:05:25.600 that opinion

02:05:26.580 with just the UVU

02:05:28.280 independent review

02:05:29.060 like Brian Harple

02:05:31.180 what's up man

02:05:32.740 why did he lie do you think if he lied

02:05:35.200 I don't know

02:05:35.620 why is he suing me is he suing you

02:05:39.040 yeah

02:05:39.700 and he's saying that you fabric

02:05:42.580 just that I mean there's a bunch of claims

02:05:44.760 but among it he

02:05:46.340 stated that I said that I found his

02:05:48.840 interview with Sean Ryan to be unconvincing

02:05:50.820 and that he lied well now you have a whole

02:05:52.640 independent review that says you lied

02:05:54.260 you have the UVU police chief that says you lied

02:05:57.080 that you misrepresented

02:05:58.940 the text message that you weren't even involved

02:06:00.980 in the text message that you presented.

02:06:02.900 So what are we supposed to think?

02:06:05.080 He got confused? I wonder why he would

02:06:07.040 if he did that, why would he do that?

02:06:08.880 I wonder. Why would you go on Sean Ryan, one of the biggest

02:06:10.780 podcasts in the world, and

02:06:12.820 think that you're not eventually

02:06:14.360 going to get exposed for misrepresenting things?

02:06:17.060 Did Sean think that he lied?

02:06:18.380 Or did Sean think he seemed like a believable guy?

02:06:20.760 I think Sean just thought this is

02:06:22.840 a big case, that he wants to talk about it

02:06:24.800 and

02:06:26.020 he just sat there and let him talk

02:06:28.840 And I'm glad he did.

02:06:30.260 I'm glad he did because.

02:06:31.700 But it seems wild if you didn't want to say, why even go say anything?

02:06:34.940 I don't know.

02:06:35.720 You know what I'm saying?

02:06:36.140 Like if you don't believe what you're saying, but maybe UVU's report is wrong.

02:06:39.800 Do you think it could be?

02:06:40.740 I think there's some.

02:06:41.500 No, I don't think that report could be wrong because they, again, it was an investigation.

02:06:45.440 So they described in the beginning what they did, how many hours went into this, sitting

02:06:50.120 down, interviewing, reviewing the messages.

02:06:52.460 Who was the outside group that did it?

02:06:54.080 And we got to get you out of here soon.

02:06:57.220 Lake Forest Group.

02:06:58.920 Mm-hmm.

02:07:00.560 Illinois.

02:07:02.360 Lake Forest Group law firm Brownstein, Hyatt, Farber, and Shrek.

02:07:08.980 Oh, donkey.

02:07:14.380 Conducted by a consortium of independent experts, including the Lake Forest Group, and then that law firm as well.

02:07:20.160 Who owns Lake Forest Group, I wonder?

02:07:21.960 Just curious to see who they are.

02:07:23.260 I think it's like Bain Capital, actually, or something.

02:07:25.880 Bain.

02:07:26.440 Not totally positive, though.

02:07:27.900 I mean, everything's fucking.

02:07:30.180 Bain Capital is doing the Charlie's Curve.

02:07:32.300 It's all this crazy thing.

02:07:33.780 Michael Verden.

02:07:35.240 Verden.

02:07:36.280 You never know.

02:07:37.640 I mean, it's all interesting.

02:07:40.380 Oh, 21 years as a U.S. secret special service agent.

02:07:43.640 I wonder if he'd be an interesting guest to talk about that stuff with.

02:07:48.060 So, again, why wouldn't they participate in this review?

02:07:52.620 These are the questions that people have.

02:07:54.100 Why wouldn't Turning Point USA?

02:07:55.400 Yeah.

02:07:55.700 Yeah.

02:07:56.220 You have nothing to hide.

02:07:57.240 I'd just be like, look, and I would have instantly gotten in front of it and been here's some things that we did wrong.

02:08:01.260 There's a level of arrogance at the organization, too, that I think is making people sick.

02:08:05.220 Do you think that they're happy that Charlie's out of, like, that's a crazy question to say.

02:08:09.380 Do you?

02:08:10.560 Do they look happy at the memorial?

02:08:12.660 Yeah.

02:08:14.000 It's kind of crazy.

02:08:15.080 That's a fair statement.

02:08:15.500 Some of these are fair.

02:08:16.440 Some of what they've done has been kind of crazy, you would say?

02:08:19.180 Absolutely.

02:08:20.080 I mean, they look happy in some of these instances.

02:08:22.260 Yeah.

02:08:22.500 They seem mad now because I feel like the public has turned on them.

02:08:26.880 But like right after the assassination, they were very bizarrely happy.

02:08:32.520 But do they still have a huge following?

02:08:34.340 I was like, how big is the following that it's like?

02:08:37.680 No, it's collapsed.

02:08:38.900 Oh, it has.

02:08:39.500 Because people are curious what's going on.

02:08:42.360 It seems odd.

02:08:42.880 People know when something's not authentic.

02:08:44.480 And I think they are blaming me for that.

02:08:47.080 And it's like, no, guys, we asked you really basic questions.

02:08:50.000 The whole world was on your side, myself included.

02:08:52.500 No one could have imagined a scenario where this organization would collapse within a year, and it's because of their own arrogance.

02:09:00.080 And now they think that they – we're friends with Kash Patel.

02:09:04.000 We're friends with Harmeet Dillon and the president, and that should be enough.

02:09:07.900 We're with the president now.

02:09:10.080 It's obviously not enough.

02:09:11.880 You need to be forthcoming with information.

02:09:14.560 You need to be – how about exercising some humility?

02:09:17.940 Saying what you did wrong off the bat would have gone a long way.

02:09:20.660 and they're not even speaking about it at all they don't care they're just like we've got power

02:09:25.200 we are the state now that's the vibe right from tp usa it's call my friend vance if you have a

02:09:33.340 you know if you have a question and then jd vance you mean shame on you guys for not

02:09:38.580 believing erica's emotions like we're just kind of getting like the wagging finger all the time

02:09:43.920 as opposed to answers that makes sense well you met up with her right after it happened didn't

02:09:50.120 not right after but about four months later and that's when I changed my perspective like

02:09:54.240 my perspective on talking about her and going after her just because she was then doing the

02:09:58.460 public rounds and she was telling lies like she initially said or you could say she didn't know

02:10:03.560 but she said I have his phone and he was not worried the night before and now that story

02:10:08.820 has been debunked and she hasn't come out to clarify or apologize exercise some humility

02:10:13.660 yeah you know actually Candace was right that the night before he was texting people concerns

02:10:19.460 That's the arrogance that I think makes people sick is that you send out all of these bots and people to attack me and to attack my family, you know, to create narrative after narrative about George and Candace because you don't want to tell the truth.

02:10:32.800 And then the truth comes out and your response to it is to attack us again for being right.

02:10:38.360 That's that's that's not going to it's not boding well for them, but they're not trying anything different.

02:10:43.680 So do you are they suing you or no?

02:10:46.340 No, turning point is not yet.

02:10:47.720 I mean. Are you in any lawsuits against other people? No, I don't. I just tell the truth. I'm

02:10:52.960 not suing anybody. Lawfare is not like thinking I'm going to crush you. I'm going to bankrupt you.

02:11:00.880 Tell the truth. The truth is enough, man. Just Candace said this. OK, actually, here's reality.

02:11:06.020 That should that should be enough. But when you don't have an answer to the truth,

02:11:09.080 that's the route you go. I'll bankrupt you. I'll destroy you. I have lawyers in high places. I

02:11:15.160 have the president on my side i can get him to tweet that you're the most vile person of the

02:11:19.500 year that's the mentality it's capital yeah it's like it's kind of just a dark side of somebody

02:11:24.320 having so much capital they could just keep suing you keep making you go to court things yeah um

02:11:29.080 what what do you think did so like with charlie kirk and specifically specifically there's so

02:11:34.060 much information around it you've done so much research um is does any of it is there any way

02:11:41.720 that the research helps affect anything in the actual case or do you think this is just for

02:11:48.440 public knowledge kind of i think for sure some of the things that we brought forward that call

02:11:53.100 into question the timeline uh was he in pengwich but like will his defense attorneys use any of

02:11:59.720 this stuff like now they have to start looking at all that stuff so that before it was too early

02:12:03.520 for them to use it because this is the prosecution oh got it and they're basically saying to the

02:12:08.100 court systems, we have enough probative evidence that this case should move forward. And you can

02:12:13.420 do that with just hearsay. Now you're moving to the trial. So their initial job of the defense

02:12:17.940 is to just get as many charges dropped. And you're basically just saying to the court at that time,

02:12:23.360 the state should drop this because of existing laws on the books. You know, they didn't fulfill

02:12:28.280 this, didn't fulfill that. They did this wrongly, whatever. They're not making an argument. They're

02:12:32.760 not actually defending Tyler Robinson yet. Now that the state said, no, there's enough evidence

02:12:37.920 to at least move it forward now they have to go out do the research and issue a defense of tyler

02:12:43.800 robinson and i would strongly suspect that a lot of the things that we have presented and discovered

02:12:48.520 will be um used or come out naturally of course and in the course of things it will that's their

02:12:54.180 job i mean if they're if you're a good defense attorney your job isn't to just like follow

02:12:57.940 people's ideas i mean i don't know if they're going to explore um alternative theories but

02:13:03.940 they're definitely going to have to get into the timeline where he actually was um if there were

02:13:08.820 other people that were involved other people that could have been that is this tyler robinson on

02:13:14.400 camera or is this somebody else right so we'll see a lot of that well it's a weird place existence

02:13:23.120 um real quick before you go uh peter teal speaking in town you know this did you hear about this yes

02:13:30.620 he's been doing some weird stuff yeah what about the antichrist did you think about because there's

02:13:36.080 part of me was like let me go see what this is just to even see what's going on but then i was

02:13:41.020 like i don't know if i even want to be around that energy part of me also was like let me see

02:13:44.680 if he would podcast just just talk like say hey everybody thinks you're like the scariest guy or

02:13:50.400 like or i don't know it's like do you if you think somebody is is like devious do you talk to them

02:13:56.720 to ask them what's going on?

02:13:58.380 Like, what is your school of thought on that?

02:13:59.460 I feel like, yeah,

02:14:00.720 I think you should just ask him

02:14:01.820 if he's the Antichrist.

02:14:03.440 Peter Thiel draws hundreds downtown

02:14:05.300 for Antichrist lectures.

02:14:06.880 He's been on this for years,

02:14:08.540 just so you know.

02:14:09.380 Hundreds?

02:14:10.020 Going across the world.

02:14:13.040 Oh, I didn't know that.

02:14:13.900 Yes, he's obsessed with the Antichrist.

02:14:17.260 A big part of why I'm doing this series

02:14:18.680 is because I believe it is dangerous

02:14:20.040 to focus on just one risk.

02:14:22.020 There's one existential risk

02:14:23.280 that nobody seems to want to discuss,

02:14:24.680 which I would like to add to the list

02:14:26.060 if we're going to enumerate existential risks,

02:14:28.200 and that is the risk of a totalitarian, one-world government.

02:14:31.980 But why are you saying you're helping us talk about the risks

02:14:35.560 if it seems like some of the stuff he's allegedly attached to

02:14:38.640 would be the stuff leading us towards that?

02:14:41.000 That's the point.

02:14:41.940 There's a conflict of interest here,

02:14:44.460 and that would be a great reason why you should interview him and ask him.

02:14:49.200 And even them, Teal's host on Masonic Lodge

02:14:51.160 opened the evening by distancing itself from the content of its talks.

02:14:54.740 It's like, it's just a lot happening.

02:14:57.240 I saw it and I was going, what on earth?

02:14:59.680 Again, we're at that inflection point.

02:15:02.700 We just are just, what's going, like it's too much.

02:15:05.500 Well, and look what it says here.

02:15:06.460 Hunt described Nashville, Davis Hunt,

02:15:09.780 a conservative activist and blogger,

02:15:11.620 described Nashville as one of the last remaining regions

02:15:13.360 in the Western world with authentic Christian beliefs

02:15:15.500 where it still thrives.

02:15:19.140 When's that baby, when's that baby popping?

02:15:21.320 Hopefully today.

02:15:22.620 You're lying.

02:15:23.960 I don't know.

02:15:24.760 The baby doesn't tell you.

02:15:27.180 Shorty cook, man.

02:15:29.480 You got to get shorty to cook fast.

02:15:31.760 Get in one of those red light therapy things.

02:15:33.720 You think that'll make the baby come out?

02:15:35.140 Yeah, are you kidding?

02:15:36.780 Have you had a baby using red light therapy?

02:15:38.900 No, but imagine that thing.

02:15:40.540 Dude, that thing is going to have nice skin for 2,000 years.

02:15:42.780 Do you use it?

02:15:43.640 I don't use it, but I'm thinking about getting one.

02:15:45.240 Okay, I don't have one.

02:15:46.060 I've never done the red light thing.

02:15:47.260 I know that's like taking off.

02:15:48.960 But you already, you guys are.

02:15:50.800 Are you talking about like, wait, which red light?

02:15:52.320 You're talking about when people just put on their face

02:15:53.920 Or you're talking about the full thing

02:15:55.380 They have a whole bed

02:15:56.080 They do have the face one

02:15:57.280 Yeah I've never done the bed one

02:15:58.120 I thought that you were talking about

02:15:59.060 The bed one seems kind of cool

02:16:00.260 I mean

02:16:00.580 Or yeah

02:16:01.180 Or even just one of them

02:16:02.140 A lot of people are just like putting it

02:16:03.480 There's even leggings now

02:16:04.620 That allegedly have it

02:16:05.620 There's like all kind of bullshit

02:16:06.640 I mean look at this lady

02:16:07.660 Ken what pocket of the internet

02:16:09.260 Leggings

02:16:10.060 Red light therapy

02:16:11.100 Those red light leggings or whatever

02:16:12.580 Never heard of it

02:16:13.820 It's supposed to keep your knees from sagging or whatever

02:16:16.220 I'm like who the fuck's knees are sagging

02:16:17.740 And who gives a shit

02:16:18.880 Yeah

02:16:19.260 Just sit down

02:16:20.580 If you bend your leg

02:16:22.400 Your knee doesn't sag

02:16:23.380 But yeah

02:16:25.120 People are just bonkers

02:16:26.220 But yeah

02:16:26.680 I just didn't know

02:16:27.420 Are y'all using any

02:16:28.900 Like will George

02:16:29.780 Massage your stomach at night

02:16:31.020 Are you guys doing anything

02:16:31.860 To try to get the baby out

02:16:32.880 Like is there any like

02:16:33.600 Nah

02:16:34.120 They just come whenever

02:16:35.020 They're ready

02:16:35.540 You know

02:16:36.700 It's something you can really

02:16:38.060 It's like it's ready

02:16:38.660 Or it's not

02:16:39.260 It's like putting a chicken

02:16:40.140 In the oven

02:16:40.540 It's either cooked

02:16:41.160 Or it's not

02:16:41.720 Yeah

02:16:42.060 You gotta get cooked

02:16:43.520 Do you feel close

02:16:44.600 I feel like I have

02:16:45.940 An oven that runs

02:16:47.060 A little cold

02:16:47.980 Some women always have

02:16:49.960 I think it's like 36 weeks.

02:16:51.120 I'm like, man, your oven runs hot.

02:16:52.820 You're so lucky.

02:16:54.060 Mine's like a little bit, like right on time or like a little cold.

02:16:58.000 And I'm just not okay with that right now.

02:17:00.240 So I'm hoping that I'm doing whatever.

02:17:02.160 What I'm doing is I'm doing your podcast.

02:17:04.340 And then I'm going to go do Tim Dillon's podcast.

02:17:07.400 And then I'll be expecting results.

02:17:09.640 Tim Dillon is the, there's nobody like, right?

02:17:12.440 There's nobody more entertaining than him right now.

02:17:14.700 He's so funny.

02:17:15.400 He's just so funny.

02:17:17.240 He gets away with it.

02:17:18.200 Yeah, he's just exceptional.

02:17:19.960 he really is and he does it he just he kind of does it all perfectly um uh will this be your

02:17:25.820 last baby you don't know i don't know i'm catholic i say it's the last baby but you know i don't know

02:17:31.320 catholics are crazy and if you and they're cute that's what's weird yeah right i feel like if you

02:17:36.640 just had some kids that were like not adorable and funny then you'd be like okay let's just

02:17:41.880 yeah it's not what's in it for me yeah i agree um any uh any unique experiences while you've

02:17:50.800 been pregnant you get weird dreams you get pregnancy dreams and they are on point like

02:17:55.460 you get like visions when you're pregnant i like that yeah women will tell you my my sister's

02:17:59.640 pregnant she says she had a dream about something i'm like uh-oh hopefully it's a good one bad one

02:18:04.140 you definitely dream a lot more and that's because there's obviously some association

02:18:08.860 between dreaming and hormones and whatever.

02:18:11.500 But that is interesting.

02:18:13.180 You start to, like, I'm at the point now

02:18:14.780 where I can almost see the future, you know?

02:18:17.340 Get some weird dreams.

02:18:18.980 I had a weird dream last night.

02:18:21.480 I can't remember what it was.

02:18:22.840 It'll come to me.

02:18:23.520 It was a very strange dream.

02:18:25.520 Can you smell anything?

02:18:26.680 I used to know this lady because when she was pregnant,

02:18:28.200 she could smell copper.

02:18:29.360 She smelled copper real strong.

02:18:30.720 A lot of women have, like, super strength.

02:18:33.240 No, unfortunately for me.

02:18:35.340 That never happens.

02:18:36.360 but you will get a whiff of something and be super nauseous.

02:18:39.080 That's for sure.

02:18:40.220 But,

02:18:40.640 uh,

02:18:41.220 yeah.

02:18:41.420 Can you sleep fully?

02:18:42.200 Do you have to sleep on your stomach?

02:18:43.540 No,

02:18:43.780 that's exactly what you shouldn't do.

02:18:45.700 That's exactly what you shouldn't do.

02:18:47.240 It's the exact opposite of what you get to know.

02:18:50.560 You can't.

02:18:51.300 Cause you,

02:18:51.860 can you sleep on a ball?

02:18:54.300 Nope.

02:18:56.140 Can you sleep on a basketball,

02:18:57.360 Theo?

02:18:57.940 No,

02:18:58.360 I don't know,

02:18:58.640 but I don't know what you guys are doing.

02:18:59.900 You know what I'm saying?

02:19:00.420 I'm trying to think of what gets it to come out fast.

02:19:01.920 Think about how you would look if you slept like.

02:19:03.520 you're just like a bosu ball of a person

02:19:08.320 but hey I'll tell you that thing

02:19:09.940 it'll be out in a half hour

02:19:10.960 it'll be out

02:19:11.600 I'll tell you that for free

02:19:12.660 it'll be out

02:19:13.260 exactly

02:19:13.840 is there any smell of something

02:19:15.300 like can you smell a certain thing

02:19:16.860 that would help

02:19:17.420 like I'm just wondering

02:19:18.340 if there's like some old wives tales

02:19:19.760 have you looked at some of that probably

02:19:20.940 of what

02:19:21.400 of like how to get that

02:19:22.560 oh you can induce labor with castor oil

02:19:24.640 oh you can

02:19:25.260 yeah I did it for Louise

02:19:26.380 no

02:19:26.960 I evicted her

02:19:27.840 she was sleeping the whole time

02:19:29.140 she wasn't there for one appointment

02:19:30.360 oh yeah

02:19:30.960 and she was

02:19:31.460 it was Tennessee July

02:19:32.800 I, she was overdue by a week.

02:19:35.220 I said, goodbye, girl.

02:19:36.120 Bye.

02:19:36.500 No, I walked outside one day and it was like the heat was violent.

02:19:40.320 You know how it gets down here.

02:19:41.300 And what do you just rub it on your belly?

02:19:43.020 No, you just take it.

02:19:44.340 So I took, I took more than they even, they suggested one tablespoon.

02:19:48.820 I think I did a fourth a cup.

02:19:50.220 Yeah.

02:19:50.880 She flew out.

02:19:51.980 It was my best birth.

02:19:53.620 Oh, I like that.

02:19:54.680 I told my doctor I was doing it.

02:19:55.960 I was like, cause he knows I'm like crunchy in those ways.

02:19:57.920 And so I don't like, don't do it.

02:20:00.080 Come take our medicine, our Pitocin.

02:20:01.800 We'll do it.

02:20:02.320 I'm like, no, best birth, one push, out, slip and slide, castor oil.

02:20:07.500 Oh, God, I love that.

02:20:09.560 Yeah, she was out.

02:20:10.800 So she just got evicted.

02:20:11.900 I tell her, I'm like, I promise with her I would still be pregnant today.

02:20:17.060 That's how she gets down.

02:20:18.420 So she was the only kid that got evicted.

02:20:21.060 Happy early Halloween.

02:20:22.980 Thank you.

02:20:23.520 And if anybody does do a Candace costume, please tag us so we can look it up faster.

02:20:27.100 Oh, yeah, that's a good idea.

02:20:28.680 I don't know what you're going to do.

02:20:29.400 I feel like I'm so boring

02:20:31.360 but yeah I mean I would

02:20:33.060 be pregnant

02:20:34.200 that's a good point

02:20:35.540 be pregnant be black

02:20:37.740 do a darkish wig

02:20:40.020 or see if you can get a hold of some darker skin

02:20:42.180 go on to farmers

02:20:43.300 black

02:20:44.840 dark and farmers

02:20:47.380 I think it was dark and farming

02:20:49.620 or as mahogany soil goddesses

02:20:52.660 I think was another one

02:20:53.660 I gotta look it up

02:20:55.020 thanks for hanging out

02:20:59.300 Candice I appreciate you

02:21:00.300 You are so welcome

02:21:01.140 And give a hug to George for me

02:21:02.300 And I'll see y'all soon

02:21:04.440 See you soon

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This Past Weekend with Theo Von - October 05, 2026

#688 - Candace Owens

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