This Past Weekend with Theo Von - #690 - Josh Brolin

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00:01:04.580 And yeah, just amen, man.

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00:01:09.700 He's a legendary actor known for movies like No Country for Old Men, Dune, Sicario.

00:01:16.980 The list goes on, Goonies.

00:01:20.280 His new film, Whale Fall, is in theaters this week. 0.94

00:01:23.720 A wonderful time catching up with the Cito rat himself. 0.99

00:01:28.280 Mr. Josh Brolin

00:01:31.020 And I don't want to find out what's behind door number two with Mike Tyson

00:01:50.380 You know what I'm saying?

00:01:50.960 You take what he gives you

00:01:52.540 Totally

00:01:52.880 So

00:01:53.720 Hey man

00:01:54.620 Thanks for having me on your show

00:01:56.900 dude thank you for being here man seriously it's nice to see you you too bro it's a pleasure bro

00:02:01.820 it's um yeah it's up and i don't know if i can if i can say this and i can take this part out

00:02:06.900 it's a it's nice to talk to another alcoholic totally is that okay to say yeah i think everybody

00:02:12.000 knows it by now okay i don't know if everybody knows it with you they definitely know it with

00:02:15.860 me i don't really talk about aa but i talk about sobriety a lot okay yeah and that are you sure 0.94

00:02:20.520 that's okay if i said that fuck yeah okay because god dude yes sometimes it's like yeah you if you 0.86

00:02:25.020 you see somebody else that's you know i don't know it just feels like something's a little 0.99

00:02:28.920 different yeah there is and you're out there now you know it's funny i was thinking i'll tell you

00:02:34.420 this story really quick celsius i guess is your company or not your company but you're sponsored

00:02:40.300 by them or whatever liquid death yeah so liquid death i have like a little tiny steak in or

00:02:46.260 whatever and and the whole reason why liquid deaths did so well because if you look at the

00:02:50.620 cans they look like 40s yeah right and people are drinking less and less like whether they're

00:02:55.340 getting sober or not is kind of beside the point but they're drinking kids are drinking less and

00:02:59.180 less so they go to these concerts and they'd have these cans and the kids started drinking these

00:03:03.480 cans that are full of water and it made them feel like they weren't ousted that they weren't going

00:03:10.780 to be judged because they weren't drinking because they had a can in their hand that looked like they

00:03:14.980 were having a beer oh yeah you're still in the group when that metal hits your lips seriously

00:03:19.000 man right yeah there's a little bit when you hear that oh it's great yeah you almost like and even

00:03:24.780 as a sober guy like i'm cool with that i like that sound i want that sound to continue with 0.93

00:03:30.040 in my life i just don't want the fucking drunk with it right you know oh dude sometimes i would 0.95

00:03:34.620 lay in bed and just open cans of that over and over again out of like seven cans what after you 0.98

00:03:40.320 got sober yeah that's just his remembrance remembrance of things past yeah what'd you do

00:03:47.040 tonight um yeah it's nice to be sober man and it's nice to know a sober buddy and there's

00:03:55.480 something else we saw each other outside and we didn't talk but i think that was the first thing

00:04:00.140 that popped in both of our minds yeah and it's cool it kind of like it gives me a little bit of

00:04:05.240 exhale because honestly dude it just feels like so much less pressure for some reason yeah that's

00:04:09.140 cool you know i like that yeah i like that too man so thank you so much for being here dude yeah

00:04:13.340 man it's a pleasure to see what i would look like if i were a little handsomer or a little gnarlier

00:04:18.840 a little more angry a little more angry but you're not you just you have i don't know you

00:04:25.920 look very welcoming man you're a very welcoming face oh thank you dude you are man i appreciate

00:04:31.680 you saying that dude um cedo rats that i'm reading your hat that's your company no that's a group

00:04:39.400 that I grew up with,

00:04:41.200 if you want to get heavy for a second.

00:04:43.500 Yeah, let's get heavy.

00:04:44.080 Dude, I got my rat on my sweatshirt.

00:04:45.760 Is that a rat?

00:04:46.520 Oh, wait.

00:04:47.160 What is that?

00:04:48.180 Because they call me the rat king. 0.99

00:04:50.220 Wait, get the fuck out of here. 1.00

00:04:51.380 Seriously? 0.99

00:04:52.540 So you made that?

00:04:53.880 Yeah, this is part of our merch.

00:04:54.760 So I made this.

00:04:55.880 I just took over the, what is it,

00:04:57.700 the trademark for this. 0.99

00:04:58.940 Oh, you did, Cito Rats? 0.98

00:04:59.900 So the guys that I grew up with

00:05:01.900 called themselves the Cito Rats

00:05:03.960 because they were in Montecito.

00:05:05.380 And Montecito now is perceived like 0.99

00:05:07.660 fucking Oprah Haven. 0.95

00:05:09.400 or something which is fine okay so fancy yeah there's a nucleus of like a lot of money and 0.98

00:05:14.920 especially actors or industry people but the group that i grew up with um 36 out of 50 are dead 0.58

00:05:23.300 from shit that we were just talking about really so and then my buddy would always talk about hey 0.94

00:05:29.740 man you remember that place that we were this and i had a needle hanging out of my neck and do you 0.98

00:05:33.560 remember on the corner of romero canyon and all this stuff and i said i'm so sick of hearing those

00:05:38.240 stories that i'm gonna spearhead this whole thing so i've brought the whole thing back as a like

00:05:43.920 survived and updated like new and improved and that's the that's the idea of the brand and also

00:05:49.500 of the humans yes survived and updated survived and updated amen bro oh yeah so if you look up

00:05:56.340 you can kind of get because like i don't know if you ever saw bra boys in maruba like there was a

00:06:03.460 group of surfers there bra boys and they did a documentary on it you can watch that there's

00:06:09.480 dahui in hawaii there was wolf pack and kala there were seat throw rats kind of like skaters

00:06:16.560 skaters would have what who were the guys down south was uh you know tony alva and all those

00:06:20.960 guys z boys dog town and z boys then you had edmond and like sacramento and you had different

00:06:28.440 like that was the skater we were the surfer version of that the seat or at yeah because

00:06:32.340 like Dogtown and Z-Boys those guys it wasn't like Jay Adams was severe he was the only guy

00:06:39.100 Jay Adams can you help me out Nick a little bit yeah there you go hit that picture yeah

00:06:44.420 let's go he was he was a Dogtown guy but he was the only one of that Dogtown group that was like

00:06:51.620 that got it whereas if you look at N-Men in Sacramento I don't know if you want to bring 0.87

00:06:56.680 up end men but end men in sacramento everybody was like that ah so the surf groups they were 1.00

00:07:03.440 all like that cito rats were all like that got it you know so he was a real one he was a real one 0.98

00:07:09.520 amen bro he was a real one r.i.p j adams dude bring up cito rats and see what comes up

00:07:16.120 um the montecito yeah dude the rats bro well it's funny you talk about rats that they were

00:07:21.400 surfers because here's one of the reasons why i i correlate with rats um for one rats can swim

00:07:27.440 for up to three days right okay they can tread water for up to three days dude right on so that 0.99

00:07:32.840 is a survival like that thing is a fucking that's a badass motherfucker dude that is a badass dude 0.99

00:07:39.140 that's a badass imagine you go out on a fishing trip with your buddies with your rich friends 1.00

00:07:44.240 everybody's drowned around you still got the rat sitting there like i'm good man i'm good i got

00:07:48.780 another two days in me yeah yeah so that's pretty cool and rats have whiskers that are

00:07:54.580 extremely sensitive that's how they pick up a lot of information i'm super sensitive so it's like

00:08:00.200 that's a correlation for me and this is one of my favorites rats they don't vomit they won't vomit 0.99

00:08:06.780 so that's why they're able to live in the shit that's why they're able to live in the muck 0.99

00:08:11.200 and have it just the the like the worst the in the worst spaces because they don't vomit yeah it's 0.99

00:08:17.920 like it doesn't get to them like it doesn't like oh we got it it doesn't affect them like they're

00:08:21.880 all factory senses and stuff so they're able to stay in there so there's something that's like

00:08:26.200 i don't know like even in like the just like a cockroach like super resilient yeah yeah but

00:08:32.920 an upscale cockroach yeah like shorty thick like a rat is an upscaled cockroach that's wild with

00:08:41.000 whiskers the whiskers being sensitive and you called yourself super sensitive like an empath 0.82

00:08:45.660 Is that what they call it?

00:08:47.360 I don't know about it.

00:08:48.200 I don't know what that is.

00:08:49.080 I don't know what an empath is.

00:08:50.300 Me either.

00:08:51.460 A person who experiences the emotions, energy,

00:08:53.340 and physical feelings of other people

00:08:55.020 as if they were their own.

00:08:57.440 I think sometimes I'm like that.

00:08:58.700 I think, honestly, I didn't develop,

00:09:00.300 and I never thought about this,

00:09:01.180 sometimes I didn't really develop my own sense of feelings

00:09:03.720 when I was growing up,

00:09:04.980 and so sometimes I think you almost take those,

00:09:08.580 you take moments off of other people's lives and existences,

00:09:11.740 and that's why sometimes they feel like a lot.

00:09:14.620 Does that make sense at all?

00:09:15.860 No, it does make sense,

00:09:17.140 and this is not like a ploy to try to talk about,

00:09:20.800 but I wrote a book a year and a half ago,

00:09:23.340 and it had to do kind of anecdotal paintings

00:09:27.080 of how I grew up, and my mom was a wildlife activist,

00:09:30.780 so we had wolves in our house, we had mountain lions,

00:09:34.560 we had- Wait, in your house?

00:09:36.320 In and out of our house.

00:09:37.740 Like how much?

00:09:38.580 My brother had 60 stitches in his leg

00:09:41.060 at six years old from a wolf.

00:09:42.740 And my mom definitely prioritized those animals 0.99

00:09:47.660 more than us.

00:09:48.680 So the point is, is that emotions and all that weren't,

00:09:52.680 it's not that they weren't allowed,

00:09:55.060 it's just there was so much,

00:09:56.600 there was such a high level of chaos

00:09:59.840 that you just didn't, what were you gonna do?

00:10:02.680 Like go in a corner and cry or talk to your parents

00:10:05.800 about how you were scared you were gonna be eaten?

00:10:09.240 Like it just wasn't, that wasn't part of the deal.

00:10:12.480 So, yeah.

00:10:13.300 Yeah, sometimes I think when you have to be so alert, like you're saying there's chaos.

00:10:16.340 You have to be so alert.

00:10:17.600 It's hard for some of those other things.

00:10:19.460 I feel like I'm not having self-pity.

00:10:21.440 I'm just thinking, I think it's hard for some of that other world to develop inside of you

00:10:24.980 because you're just on a, you know.

00:10:26.380 Totally.

00:10:26.780 You're just like, you're like somebody who's got to do night watch day and night, it feels

00:10:30.400 like, you know.

00:10:30.860 Seriously.

00:10:31.500 And don't you think, I mean, like to just bring it full circle that that's why we drank.

00:10:35.520 I mean, what were you like when you drank?

00:10:36.960 Because when I drank, it was like, it was the best.

00:10:39.820 It was like God feeling.

00:10:41.040 was like i don't have to think at all now i can do whatever i want and i don't have that little 1.00

00:10:47.780 voice in there going oh you're a piece of shit or you're you can't do that you're not good enough 0.99

00:10:52.560 you're not like all that went away except you know my my version of it was it just there was 1.00

00:11:00.060 no limit there was no ceiling what were you like when you were drunk when i drank i was like

00:11:05.560 somebody that was going to get cocaine i love how you said that deadpan oh to be honest with you

00:11:13.240 seriously oh yeah i'm not even joking oh no yeah when i drank it was like i just like

00:11:18.680 i think i just drank just because i like i didn't love drinking that much me neither it was hard

00:11:25.220 really interesting no it was hard for me to even realize i was an alcoholic because i i didn't i 0.98

00:11:30.940 my friends were shocked like you're an alcoholic dude like like you're a fucking weirdo but you're 0.98

00:11:36.120 you're not an alcoholic right you're just a freak yeah yeah you got a lot of other shit that i would 0.99

00:11:41.720 worry about before that uh but no i think it made me go like because cocaine i think it made me be 0.98

00:11:47.780 able to feel immediately how and i could feel immediately some way and i don't there was

00:11:53.900 something about that like i'm gonna control how i feel right now and it wasn't even the best feeling

00:11:58.360 I think it was a scared feeling, but I think deep on the other side of me, there was a

00:12:02.660 lot of scared feelings, and for some reason, it was like two bookends, and finally, there

00:12:07.040 was something like, I don't even know, but sometimes I theorize little things like that.

00:12:10.620 So, is that with alcohol or cocaine?

00:12:12.580 That was with cocaine.

00:12:13.680 It was just like, the only reason I wanted to drink was then I could have an excuse to

00:12:18.300 go to-

00:12:18.800 To go do coke.

00:12:19.680 To get some cocaine.

00:12:19.980 Well, you drank, and then suddenly, it wasn't even a choice.

00:12:22.900 You had to go get coke.

00:12:23.700 Right, or it was like-

00:12:24.880 It was an immediate thing.

00:12:25.800 oh i'd see a child riding by on a bike and i'm like oh i should get some coke

00:12:29.220 i could look at a counter like oh easter's in four months i'll grab a bag the coke the coke

00:12:35.480 brought me down dude cocaine helped me quit vaping what why it just i think it took the

00:12:41.940 place of everything else that any other vice you may have had i think it was all vices in one

00:12:47.760 well sometimes a cocaine hangover it would be a couple days and i didn't want to do anything

00:12:53.320 else to damage myself during that time so it would give me enough time away from nicotine

00:12:56.840 anyway anyway um i won't bring it up again no it's okay it's interesting to talk about you know

00:13:02.420 what is nice it's fun to laugh about totally because it takes the air out of whatever part

00:13:06.900 of me that wants to behave that way yeah it makes it fun and it makes it like i don't know for a

00:13:12.480 second you have some community and that's all i ever really wanted i think it's more fun it is

00:13:16.760 more fun i honestly i mean i don't say that just to say it because i think other people want to 0.61

00:13:21.120 hear it i actually think it's more fun and i had a fucking blast when i was using did you and i have 0.96

00:13:26.900 more fun now yeah let's go more fun i do oh dude i believe you had it so much fun dude if i fucking 0.97

00:13:33.660 dude i was doing it and i was pretty ugly looking you know what i'm saying like you what are you 0.96

00:13:37.840 talking about why do you keep saying that i mean i did it and i looked like me right if i looked

00:13:41.820 like you i would have been definitely out partying bro dude i had to have a couple drinks to think

00:13:49.400 But let's rewind it, man.

00:13:56.560 Let's do it back in a little bit.

00:13:57.780 Dude, so what do you mean?

00:13:58.580 Your brother got attacked by a wolf?

00:14:00.460 Yeah.

00:14:01.340 And you guys were what?

00:14:02.220 Just like, was it like a regular night?

00:14:04.120 Or was it like, what do you mean?

00:14:05.760 So we lived in Paso Robles.

00:14:06.920 We lived on a ranch.

00:14:07.840 In Paso Robles?

00:14:09.080 Yeah.

00:14:09.480 North of here.

00:14:10.560 And we lived on a 230-acre ranch.

00:14:14.140 Oh, wow.

00:14:14.860 My mom was from Texas. 1.00

00:14:16.260 My mom was from Corpus Christi, Texas. 1.00

00:14:18.360 Five foot three. 1.00

00:14:19.400 super loud like the voice of a six foot eight man yeah and yeah and she uh she was just animals 1.00

00:14:30.660 were her thing like from when she was a kid so she became an animal activist she started working 0.76

00:14:35.580 with fish and game and all that and then she would take animals away from people who had

00:14:39.900 illegally taken them out of the wild have them jailed and she would nurse them back to health

00:14:44.400 and if they'd been defanged or declawed or something like that she'd find the most habitable 0.81

00:14:49.180 zoo and then put them there she didn't like those little cage zoos and all that um but we would so

00:14:55.600 the transitional time would be in our place so we had you know a lion we had a bear at one point we

00:15:01.660 had a chimpanzee for a long time oh really what was his name reggie reggie reggie reggie there's

00:15:09.160 a story of reggie where reggie used to watch uh arnold schwarzenegger movies with my mom

00:15:14.680 and you know how arnold would hold the gun here right and that was like a i think uh

00:15:19.560 sly used to do that too yeah that was a big thing at that big thing like in the eight was it the

00:15:25.080 80s and the heavy guns yeah exactly big bullets and then there was a guy who came over and reggie

00:15:31.300 was in his cage he wasn't in the house my mom left somewhere reggie was in his cage a guy came over

00:15:37.540 to fix a chicken coop Reggie like finagled or MacGyvered his way out of the cage came over

00:15:44.620 everybody where I'm from has a gun right in their truck right on the window in a rack so he grabbed 0.96

00:15:50.900 the gun fucking put one because he had seen it obviously in a movie put one in the chamber 0.91

00:15:56.000 and the guy Reggie did Reggie did and the guy and then suddenly the guy fixing the chicken coop 0.99

00:16:03.500 hears and he goes what the fuck is that and he's laying down and he looks past the chicken coop 0.98

00:16:08.560 and there's reggie holding the gun at wayside yeah damn reggie was a real one he was a real one 0.99

00:16:15.380 he was he was the masculine energy oh and that's you and him in a where's reggie right there that's 0.96

00:16:21.020 you and him in a dressing up for halloween right there boy and that's that's really him yeah that's

00:16:26.700 him wow where'd you find that picture dude that was just on the internet that's crazy both you

00:16:32.520 guys look nice man dude that was me my worst was it yeah when i look at that that was a yeah that

00:16:40.020 was a wacky town look at that like what is that that i have on my face do i shave the top from

00:16:46.440 the nose like part way down it's definitely yeah something's up it's very it's very like i'm gonna

00:16:53.760 be the best looking guy who's gonna cross the atlantic in the hey it looks like 20s don't i

00:16:59.760 look like not in my 20s like 1920s like john fonte i'm seeing maybe one of the outsiders

00:17:07.380 i'm seeing really somewhat but i'm also seeing very spice trader like spice aggressive brother

00:17:14.360 of a successful spice trade always an aggressive brother and you finally show up with the freaking

00:17:19.380 uh coriander that no one's ever heard of that's good and you've got the market coriander that's

00:17:26.600 that very good it was okay not bad you'd be a supportive yeah not bad i'll agree with did it

00:17:33.700 feel was your mom like was it easier for her to care about animals do you think or something or

00:17:37.760 was she like good for sure you're the first person that's ever asked that for sure was the human 0.97

00:17:42.640 thing wasn't didn't work for her and she was a big drinker so when she would drink that was that was 1.00

00:17:47.940 her ability to kind of like you know my mom didn't just say hi how you doing she grabbed you by the 1.00

00:17:53.360 lapels and pulled you across the table and planted one on your mouth that's how she'd say hello and

00:17:58.420 it was usually from like a you know a 380 pound cowboy wow you know there's a thing in my book 0.59

00:18:04.720 oh dude beyond beyond and i miss her and she's not around anymore she but she uh yeah there's

00:18:13.880 a thing in my book where she says and i know this is not cool to say now she saw this cowboy and he

00:18:19.960 had a comb in his back pocket, and she yells out,

00:18:22.320 I was about eight years old, and she yells out,

00:18:24.500 hey, she had this voice, and she goes,

00:18:26.840 why do you have that comb in your pocket?

00:18:28.460 And he turned around, he said, I'm sorry, ma'am.

00:18:30.460 And she said, that comb, it looks .

00:18:33.660 I'm like, why? 0.99

00:18:35.240 Like, what's the fucking point? 0.99

00:18:37.660 What's the end goal here? 0.99

00:18:41.080 And then, 15 minutes later,

00:18:43.780 you have 10 guys buying my mom drinks.

00:18:47.560 Always pulled it off, somehow.

00:18:49.960 She knew a bunch of truckers, and if somebody flipped her off on the road, she'd call truckers on the CB, and they'd box them in.

00:18:57.420 Like, bro, that happened many times with me in the car.

00:19:01.980 Like, I remember.

00:19:03.200 Like, hey, Breaker19, this is Catwoman.

00:19:06.440 I got another flipper.

00:19:08.640 Yes, okay, Jane, we got you.

00:19:10.260 You know? 0.99

00:19:10.580 And the guys would come out of fucking nowhere. 0.99

00:19:12.380 There was no 18-wheelers anywhere. 0.99

00:19:14.180 And then suddenly box a guy in.

00:19:17.420 One guy would leave.

00:19:18.680 they'd push him off the side of the road and then thank you guys i appreciate it love you

00:19:23.300 you know oh my god dude she was great she was great she was she was severe but she was great

00:19:31.440 that's a cool word to use that's interesting severe is an interesting word to use so when

00:19:36.220 you grow up in that not as a victim because you said that earlier you know not to victimize

00:19:40.560 yourself you go that's what it was and i accept it fully for what it was i like it because it

00:19:46.340 colored my life later in a way once i've figured out a way to kind of regulate the whole thing 0.99

00:19:52.340 yeah but without figuring it out then you're just spinning cool then you're just fucking going 0.83

00:19:59.700 you're like i don't know what's gonna happen from tuesday to wednesday to thursday but here we go 0.65

00:20:05.740 yeah dude it feels uh well that's part of the unmanageability they say it's fun yeah until

00:20:12.260 it's not it's not yeah that's it it's fun until it's not yeah dude and then you try to get that

00:20:17.840 fun back and then that's when it gets really fucking crazy yeah then you're like i know i 0.81

00:20:22.160 can figure this out i know it i i fucking know it yeah i can do this start working out like neil 0.90

00:20:27.600 degrasse tyson like you know geometry in your head trigonometry astrophysics you're drawing 0.99

00:20:33.480 shit on the walls he's drawing shit on the wall i know i can drink i can fucking figure it out 0.99

00:20:38.960 you're carrying the one you're yeah you're using a calculator if we at the bar like yeah one of 1.00

00:20:44.760 those big ones that has all the symbols yeah t-mobile sidekick or something um yeah i went

00:20:51.440 through a spell uh where i was having a tough time and then i was so thankful to get back on track

00:20:56.460 man yeah man it can get scary out there it gets scary and then you know we said again we try to

00:21:02.060 drop this subject but it's like you look back and you go like i see guys that are going through it

00:21:07.120 right now and then you'll see them like you know they get a you know a month or maybe a couple

00:21:11.540 weeks and they go back out and they try it and they lose their wives and they lose everything

00:21:16.120 and they can't see their kids anymore because of two days out three days out because they had to

00:21:22.200 go get five hookers like what is it about alcohol that makes you want to go get five hookers i don't

00:21:27.560 know but whatever's going on in that person's mind that's a hidden little gem in there that 0.98

00:21:32.320 nobody knows about gets unleashed yeah and and you go yeah it's not gonna that's gonna happen

00:21:38.980 every time yeah no matter what when you eat strawberries you will break out yeah it's gonna

00:21:46.120 happen no but if i just eat the right strawberry nope yeah but if i just have a strawberry short

00:21:51.860 yeah exactly that's exactly right that's right um anyway were the cedar rats guys was it was

00:21:58.400 Was there partying then or was that just sort of a surfing club? 0.97

00:22:01.120 Oh, no, no, no, no.

00:22:02.900 Like, was it a gang?

00:22:04.520 It wasn't a gang.

00:22:05.480 Okay.

00:22:06.340 It was definitely not a gang.

00:22:08.100 It was a group of guys.

00:22:10.140 I mean, didn't you have a group of guys growing up?

00:22:12.240 Oh, yeah.

00:22:12.860 Yeah, well, that's it.

00:22:13.820 That's what it was.

00:22:14.660 It was just a community, especially in the 80s when you had parents that, you know, were kind of – how did I put it in my book?

00:22:22.360 They were more interested in the sound of their eyes than they were about necessarily parenting.

00:22:26.160 you know they all had their drinks and their cocaine and their this and their parties and

00:22:30.080 all that kind of stuff so we relied on each other and it was a great reliance it was amazing but it

00:22:35.100 was the beginning of punk rock so the guys that my best friend growing up jason sears had a band

00:22:42.080 called uh rich kids on lsd rkl and that became a big band rich kids on lsd and they've and they've 0.87

00:22:49.880 influenced like i talked to eddie vetter about it he said no fucking way you know jason sears

00:22:54.960 we were hugely influenced by that i mean there's a ton of bands that were influenced and this is

00:23:00.860 like the greatest band that never got the notoriety that any of these other bands got but that like

00:23:07.480 jason was my best friend oh wow so all those guys whether it was punk rock and whether it was surfing

00:23:13.520 or that was the beach and you know it was it was it was a group of guys that you could rely on that

00:23:18.720 were a fucking great group of guys i mean great dude talk about colorful so you're going colorful 0.90

00:23:24.920 from that but then she's busy now and we got color this and if you look at who you're like bra boys 0.97

00:23:31.120 like i said but then it starts to self-destruct then it starts to not work anymore super fun for

00:23:37.120 a while then we started not going to school and then you get into you know the heroin that came

00:23:43.380 in in the 90s and suddenly these guys just started dying left and right you know some of your friends

00:23:50.620 up there most of them wow there's a couple of guys that like when i talk about this they're like you

00:23:56.080 know we're all not dead dude by the way we all didn't die some of us are still okay chris rest

00:24:03.140 some of us are still treading water over there yeah the rats exactly the rat that's it i love

00:24:08.700 that you said that i love that you well they're fascinating man they're fascinating animals i

00:24:13.280 mean they're and they're they're kind of i don't know if reviled is the word but they're like

00:24:18.700 i don't know they're always kind of looked down upon or looked at like rats are yeah or looked

00:24:24.880 at like this outsider thing yeah you know i'm gonna look for this picture for a second and

00:24:30.840 they feel yeah a rat it's like their skin it's like they crawl and their skin crawls you know

00:24:37.320 it's like a it's like yeah but why is it always like cito rats obviously has some connotation 0.99

00:24:42.940 where it's like this is the this is the the shit of the shit yeah but it's cedar rat sounds punk 0.92

00:24:49.500 though it sounds good it sounds dope yeah it does sound good i agree it's great and so now it's an 0.99

00:24:53.920 actual it's a brand those guys are still i mean the guys are still around like everybody's older

00:24:59.160 now everybody's in their late 50s and early 60s yeah and and but then you have it it was purely

00:25:06.440 out of reaction of being sick of hearing the stories you know it's like you're like okay 0.54

00:25:12.800 these guys are sober now people have gotten sober it's good there's still sito rats it's still

00:25:17.680 scrappy it's still punk but it's just not as self-destructive as it was but I went to a wedding

00:25:23.520 recently I officiated a wedding for a friend of mine whose dad was a mesa rat which was up the

00:25:29.940 hill and old gang member gnarly guy like Santa Barbara was way gnarlier than anybody could have

00:25:36.200 imagined right back then you know you can't imagine it now yeah no you can't ever and uh

00:25:42.360 so i was and this girl came up to me and it was it was like i've seen i've seen enough recovery now

00:25:49.060 where i'm not used to it anymore and this girl came up to me she's like hey man i knew damon dude

00:25:56.160 i was like oh fuck who's that she was like hey man like do you remember like we were 15 bro and 0.99

00:26:03.780 I think you touched my tits at some point, bro. 1.00

00:26:06.240 And I was like, oh, fuck. 1.00

00:26:08.540 This is why I don't want to talk about it anymore. 0.99

00:26:12.080 This chick was super gnarly, and she kept talking about one of my best friends was found on the bathroom.

00:26:17.980 He died.

00:26:19.320 He had OD'd and died. 1.00

00:26:20.740 And she was like, Damon, man, what the fuck? 1.00

00:26:23.000 Can you believe it, man? 1.00

00:26:25.220 Such a character.

00:26:26.360 And the smell of vodka, bro.

00:26:30.020 The smell of whatever it was that she was having.

00:26:32.620 But that's what I wanted to try and shift.

00:26:35.860 Yeah, kind of refurbish it.

00:26:37.600 Refurbish it.

00:26:38.600 Perfect word.

00:26:39.560 Because it also deserves a bit of refining because at a certain point, like something's like tough and rugged and has its period like that.

00:26:46.600 But at a certain point, it's put in so much work to be that that it almost deserves someone to come along.

00:26:53.400 I don't want to say like a jeweler of sorts, but an appreciator and come along and say, you know what?

00:26:58.360 this deserves to kind of be uh refurbished in just enough of a way where it can be revered we

00:27:04.080 like the foundation we respect the foundation it's like we bought a house in santa barbara

00:27:07.960 it was joe walsh's old house joe walsh from freaking uh it's all mysteries no no no dude

00:27:13.660 what who am i thinking of joe walsh from the eagles you're thinking of the guy that who is

00:27:18.980 he thinking of yeah that's joe that joe walsh oh yeah joe joe walsh one of the greatest guitarists

00:27:25.180 of all time and we didn't change the house at out i'm thinking john no you're thinking of john

00:27:29.940 walsh i remember him what was the show that he had america's most wanted that was it yeah

00:27:34.560 america's most wanted i used to watch that show oh it was a good show it was a good show um you 0.93

00:27:39.420 bought joe walsh's old house old house and it was so ratty and fucked up and it like didn't have 0.71

00:27:45.540 foundation and half of it and all that but we didn't change anything we just updated it nice 0.98

00:27:51.560 And it's, like, ranchy and cool and bitchin' lookin', there's rocks all over the place.

00:27:56.720 Same concept.

00:27:57.920 Yeah.

00:27:58.420 Same concept.

00:27:59.680 Because you just get, like, I don't want to be defined in one way.

00:28:03.720 I don't want to be like, I am Amacito, right? 1.00

00:28:06.160 You know, fuck you. 1.00

00:28:07.760 You know? 1.00

00:28:08.620 Throw a rock at your head. 0.99

00:28:10.260 It's what we do. 1.00

00:28:11.780 You know, you're like, that's just dumb. 1.00

00:28:13.660 You're 60, bro. 1.00

00:28:15.720 We're just throwing rocks at people's head.

00:28:17.240 so even like i know you had neil degrasse tyson on and i did colbert's penultimate show and colbert

00:28:25.720 and i became super close is he a neat guy he is the coolest like literally i get emotional talking

00:28:33.100 about he is the coolest most caring motherfucker i know wow like amazing an amazing human being

00:28:41.000 i'd like to meet him he's really cool man you should have him on the show now that he's got 0.98

00:28:44.780 nothing to do oh did he lose his job well not yeah he got fired oh that was it they canceled

00:28:49.580 the show that's why i said penultimate show the show before his last show oh the penultimate

00:28:53.840 penultimate show yeah yeah yeah just say the show before the last one okay dude look 0.98

00:29:02.540 i just saw that shaming look um like why you got to do that to me on my own fucking show dude 0.99

00:29:10.520 bitch no dude we fucking they knew when you said it i didn't know they knew when you said it i 1.00

00:29:17.640 didn't you should put it up on the thing that's what you should have done is put it up we do 0.99

00:29:22.120 vocabulary at the end of the year we do a big vocabulary do you really we're gonna start this

00:29:27.440 year we're nine years late on it penultimate means second to last or immediately preceding

00:29:34.680 the final one in a series or sequence perfectly used the penultimate perfectly placed very well

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00:32:36.820 or if you need it today it's available now at best buy dude my mom would keep a dictionary 0.80

00:32:43.020 in a house it was like the one thing like our fucking it would be the most miserable existence 0.86

00:32:47.900 ever right but every now and then you had to go look up a word oh yeah that was your education 0.99

00:32:53.780 i was like i'm doing my job as a parent the fucking apartment was sinking someone had stolen 0.98

00:32:58.480 our balcony again it everything was just a fucking nightmare like you wouldn't even go to sleep at 0.99

00:33:04.080 night because you were too busy crying and fucking oh that's awful it was fucking it was it was it 0.99

00:33:09.680 was right it was you were either wetting the bed or crying but there was always some liquid that 0.99

00:33:14.580 was leaving your body because it didn't want to be involved anymore god it wanted out it's like

00:33:19.460 They wanted out of the prison.

00:33:20.780 It's like, you have to stay. 1.00

00:33:22.200 I don't, motherfucker. 1.00

00:33:23.800 Yeah, people stole our balcony. 1.00

00:33:25.160 Look, we talk about this a lot, but there it is.

00:33:28.200 People would- 1.00

00:33:28.520 Holy shit. 1.00

00:33:29.840 People would steal our balcony. 1.00

00:33:31.200 No, no, no, but did somebody come in

00:33:32.540 and actually steal, like, pull off your balcony?

00:33:35.140 Yeah, they did. 0.85

00:33:36.360 What do you freaking mean?

00:33:37.480 That's what it means.

00:33:38.540 Well, I know, but I thought maybe you were putting a new one.

00:33:41.120 No, no, no, no.

00:33:42.320 And then you made it look like somebody stole it.

00:33:44.180 Somebody actually came in and stole your balcony.

00:33:46.260 Yeah, many times, dude.

00:33:47.720 And so-

00:33:48.460 Many times?

00:33:49.020 yeah because people would steal the wood and use it for stuff down the street so you'd have to 0.99

00:33:53.020 fucking then pull up and somebody one time build a fucking baby crib out of it and that's the worst 0.99

00:33:59.180 you're like we want it back and the fucking babysitting babysitting oh dude you can't steal 1.00

00:34:04.800 it from the baby now oh did you actually see a baby crib made out of your wood knowing it was 0.99

00:34:09.000 your wood 100 that's fucking crazy that's the coolest shit all the time because it was good 0.98

00:34:14.040 wood yeah well obviously because it was new wood because you had to keep replacing it 0.99

00:34:18.060 but this part of the apartment was sinking all the time and so we'd be at dinner and like

00:34:22.260 it was just a nightmare and mom would like it would be absolutely miserable and mom would be 0.97

00:34:27.180 like i'm gonna go lay out in the yard and it was just like everything was just a fucking nightmare 0.90

00:34:31.280 but anyway louisiana is tough man my assistant who loves you by the way is absolutely in love 0.91

00:34:36.620 with you erica shout out to erica oh i'm glad that it went erica i thought it was gonna stop

00:34:41.100 no eric eric loves you my assistant eric my assistant bob loves you no erica loves you but 0.90

00:34:48.520 she's from louisiana oh nice she's tough she lives in in uh in atlanta but she's 0.99

00:34:53.620 uh she's tough and uh i fat like i went to jail in in uh in louisiana louisiana's tough 0.82

00:35:02.760 and what were the charges i don't know drunken fighting no oh obstruct no

00:35:11.640 it was it was what do you when you get in the way of something that the cops are doing what

00:35:18.000 do they call it oh yeah there you go josh roland and tiger woods went to jail together that's not

00:35:24.580 tiger woods bro what's the matter with you i didn't know i figure you hang out with fancy

00:35:30.580 people sometimes um that's you even even scroll up let me see josh roland jeffrey jeffrey wright

00:35:39.340 sorry shreveport arrested two actors and several several crew members involved with the with the

00:35:43.740 latest movie in hollywood south w the star of oliver stone's film w early this morning at least

00:35:50.100 they put the star of it thank god right yeah at least i'm worth something other than just a mug

00:35:56.280 shot did you get arrested was this a frequent thing yeah fairly was it did you feel like you

00:36:02.100 had to get her like because it's like if you go parties it feel like you have to get it because

00:36:06.080 i never had that kind of stuff really no i know you didn't because you didn't have the face for

00:36:09.900 it yeah yeah you're too nice of a face yeah oh well i just had a face you wanted to arrest oh

00:36:15.600 did it yeah i think so i think so no i don't feel like i did that no that was more my mom coming out

00:36:22.460 my mom would get arrested too oh really yeah but she'd usually get out of it yeah like there's a

00:36:28.320 there's a story about my mom where she got pulled over and the guy was like not talking to her

00:36:32.820 really and she always sped she always went 100 miles an hour that that was the number she loved

00:36:37.520 was 100 so she was 100 miles an hour and get pulled over and this guy's giving her a ticket

00:36:43.380 she took the ticket like they used to have those oh he's a motorcycle cop so they had the whatever

00:36:48.080 that leather thing with the ticket inside

00:36:51.060 and handed it to her.

00:36:52.580 And she took it and she threw it out

00:36:54.260 in the middle of the freeway.

00:36:55.440 Cool.

00:36:56.740 And then he stopped traffic,

00:36:59.120 went out, picked it up, came back,

00:37:01.020 handed it to her again.

00:37:02.060 And she liked that.

00:37:03.360 She liked that kind of like silent, strong type.

00:37:06.940 And they became really close friends.

00:37:08.560 He was over at the house all the time.

00:37:10.740 So where one would have gone to jail mucho,

00:37:15.860 she would have too,

00:37:17.340 But she just was so charming

00:37:18.920 She got out of it

00:37:19.720 It makes me realize

00:37:21.060 There's something 1.00

00:37:21.580 Some women like that thing of like 1.00

00:37:24.060 That's what I mean 1.00

00:37:25.580 I never realized that until recently

00:37:27.540 Some girls like it 1.00

00:37:28.760 When it's just like 1.00

00:37:29.440 They love it 1.00

00:37:30.040 Fuck you 1.00

00:37:31.220 Fuck you 1.00

00:37:32.120 I think that's coming around too 1.00

00:37:34.700 I mean this is gonna get me in trouble

00:37:36.620 But I think there's something that's like

00:37:38.340 Things have been so sketch and scary

00:37:41.480 And paralyzed

00:37:43.220 That I'm starting to see that kind of come back

00:37:46.660 Oh, we're getting out of the wheelchair, brother.

00:37:49.460 You feel me?

00:37:52.860 We're getting out of the wheelchair, for sure. 1.00

00:37:54.740 Fucking Stella got her legs back, dude. 1.00

00:37:56.980 We got this shit, man. 1.00

00:38:00.180 Yeah. 1.00

00:38:01.680 You had fame at a young age.

00:38:05.780 Like, how do you go from this Cedar Rats kind of energy, right?

00:38:08.380 How do you go?

00:38:09.760 We don't want to talk about it anymore.

00:38:10.800 No, I don't know. 0.99

00:38:12.480 Because how do you go from that to becoming like a-

00:38:15.100 No, I think it's fascinating because when I look at pictures of like me and the Goonies,

00:38:20.180 which never should have happened because I had missed 36 out of 56 days of school.

00:38:24.940 I got in a fight with my mom.

00:38:25.940 She kicked me out of the house in Santa Barbara.

00:38:27.760 I went to go live on the couch with my dad.

00:38:30.300 And he was in an apartment with his girlfriend in L.A. 0.98

00:38:33.340 So it was like me going, I got to get my shit together. 0.90

00:38:35.760 What do I do? 0.99

00:38:36.460 My dad's an actor.

00:38:38.040 Maybe I'll try that.

00:38:39.380 Maybe I'll do that in martial arts. 0.99

00:38:41.280 You always got to get into martial arts when you're getting your shit together. 0.98

00:38:44.280 Everybody. 0.72

00:38:45.100 every kid you know what i mean that's fist foot way that's what the movie's about that's it that's 0.56

00:38:49.380 it and then so yeah i tried to get my shit together and i went on auditions i went on so 0.99

00:38:55.360 many auditions dude and i heard so many people say basically versions of you suck like definitely 0.97

00:39:02.180 don't do this don't pursue this like the martial arts thing sounds pretty good for you what were 0.94

00:39:08.120 were you were you what were you good at auditioning auditioning is hard no i just said 0.78

00:39:15.900 i was horrible at it bro i was horrible i'm so bad at my job dude you just horrible not only was 0.82

00:39:24.220 i horrible then but i was always horrible at it and there was a girl and i've said this many times 0.86

00:39:29.700 but merrill poster who was third in charge at miramax said when she when that thing was still

00:39:36.160 going on she said the worst she did it publicly the worst auditioners we ever saw we ever experienced

00:39:42.380 in our kind of history at miramax were benicio del toro and josh brolin let's go so there's some

00:39:49.940 positive in that somewhere yeah well there's some where you look at benicio and you go he's great

00:39:54.660 yeah and there's some way that obviously that that doesn't define everything because yeah i think

00:40:00.220 like that auditioning is so hard dude one time i went in this is a freaking most embarrassing story

00:40:05.940 i'd stayed up watching um shirley temple movie right all right and i went in an audition and

00:40:14.840 they're like you have to sing something and i can't sing at all right i can sing i mean i can

00:40:18.640 do christmas carols and maybe a couple of mild stuff or maybe some early um bush but um guns

00:40:27.960 and roses yeah i can do some guns and roses but that's imitational but it's like i can't really 0.93

00:40:32.200 sing so i sang um a song of shirley temples right in this fucking audition room and i think they're 0.88

00:40:38.200 like really yeah like you chose it yeah they were like can you sing and you go actually i prepared 0.86

00:40:44.180 a shirley temple song yeah and i didn't know what else to do because i it was more like a like a um

00:40:51.320 a poem it's almost like reading a poem or singing like it was it didn't feel like real singing or

00:40:56.680 something you know um and i and i remember at first i started and it was not going good and i 0.76

00:41:01.880 i was like can you guys open the window because i was just so fucking scared so they try to open 0.80

00:41:07.060 this window but it didn't open it was like one of those businesses where they just want you to 0.98

00:41:10.300 another awkward moment yeah be in pain in there they're over there looking at the fucking thing 0.81

00:41:15.000 and they already know i have no chance at this thing right right and then i was like and so then 0.92

00:41:20.520 i did it again and i just like god i remember going home and be like i just can't fucking live 0.80

00:41:25.680 like this man it's horrible there's no worse feeling when i know people who audition even 0.82

00:41:30.560 today and i'm like i wouldn't worse i wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy yeah i just i mean

00:41:36.720 and you think it's something like so we'll go back but like i so after the goonies i didn't

00:41:43.580 really there was flirting with disaster in the middle there was a movie that i did that i was

00:41:47.520 really lucky to get and the only reason i got it is because david o russell demanded that i was the

00:41:52.940 guy but miramax said no he's a guy who should have hit and didn't so i spent 22 years kind of

00:42:00.080 in the ethers after the goonies right because goonies you that book that was one of the biggest

00:42:04.660 at the time was it one of the biggest things that ever happened yeah okay you mean to me or just

00:42:09.820 period i think just period here just period was it it was yeah because i remember like when did

00:42:14.380 goonies come out was it 80 85 right i remember of course watching it when i was a kid but sometimes

00:42:20.280 when you're a young kid you're not exactly the sure if something came out four years ago or it

00:42:23.680 just came out but um yeah it was one of the craziest it was like everybody impersonated

00:42:28.240 everything and everything was related to it and like you have like yeah it was halloween costumes

00:42:33.720 and everything yeah um so that was one of so it was one of the biggest things that happened

00:42:38.120 so at that time were you drinking and partying at that time yeah bro that's what that's the thing

00:42:44.320 no no no i'm not saying that like a pot but bring up that last picture that you just that you just

00:42:49.060 had like i look at that and then i think i'm lying do you know how like if you look back at

00:42:54.440 your stories and all that kind of stuff and you're talking about your mom and you're talking

00:42:58.100 about how they stole your balcony and all that kind of stuff and then you think am i lying did 0.97

00:43:04.120 i make a bunch of shit up because when i look at that dude i go you look pretty healthy and young 0.95

00:43:08.880 and pretty innocent and naive oh like are the stories in your head not real or not real because 0.99

00:43:15.180 because that guy i don't see what i know was the trajectory from eight to that i see is super 0.92

00:43:25.120 gnarly you know i'm not gonna say it on here but the shit that i was doing before that moment was 0.86

00:43:31.700 i should have been here already really oh yeah for sure you were partying pretty hard 0.78

00:43:37.580 super hard like like some of those guys had already died at that point so anyway then you

00:43:44.400 get this then you go out and you'd be with your dad and then you go on the 350 auditions and

00:43:49.000 People are saying, you know, it's not for you.

00:43:51.480 And then you get a role and it's that role and you show up and you've never done it.

00:43:56.680 And you don't know what you're doing.

00:43:58.040 So that was one of your first roles, Goonies?

00:43:59.580 The first role.

00:44:00.720 No way, dude.

00:44:01.540 I didn't, sorry, I didn't know this.

00:44:02.940 The first time ever in front of a camera.

00:44:06.160 I ruined the first day of shooting because I couldn't stop laughing.

00:44:10.100 Wow. 0.99

00:44:10.720 Couldn't stop ruining the whole fucking thing. 1.00

00:44:12.960 Because you were laughing and you said it all seemed ridiculous? 1.00

00:44:14.600 No, it was just like nerves. 1.00

00:44:16.500 Like nerves coming out sideways and shit. 0.98

00:44:18.700 action you know just fucking it all up and i remember spielberg coming up and saying we need 0.99

00:44:25.440 to we need to get through this you need to just take a breath and let's just get through this 0.75

00:44:31.020 i'm like oh oh yeah okay good but then yeah and then i did thrashing after that which was became

00:44:38.040 like one of the worst movies i ever did to me at that time thrashing yeah it was a skateboarding

00:44:43.840 movie oh and that makes sense though there you go like look at that quintessential 80s movie

00:44:50.460 oh my god yeah you look like will ferrell in that i do this is like will ferrell and a young

00:44:56.720 david spade i feel like in this in this picture right here dude my assistant bob loves you

00:45:04.460 i mean that's the thing it's like it's a guy's story that's great you know it actually that

00:45:10.440 that picture looks like val kilmer really it kind of does doesn't it what me or her you do oh yeah

00:45:17.060 different stages of different stages of that was about later thrashing it was just val finding

00:45:22.500 himself so that kind of became like tony hawk was in that were you ever skater no yeah yeah yeah so

00:45:28.100 tony hawk was in that and like tony alva and all these famous skaters christian his soy and this

00:45:34.700 became way later like a cult film got it yeah so i was gonna ask if it became like a cult

00:45:40.260 classic kind of but I saw it and I was so bad in it I was like like my acting is actually like

00:45:47.080 actively hurting people at this point like go figure this out but what do you were you did

00:45:52.380 you think that it was because you'd had a better director the first time or could you even ever

00:45:56.000 do it and you just didn't realize it maybe but you're asking questions that I couldn't even

00:46:00.280 because I hadn't been around it's not like I grew up in the business I grew up in LA and all so I 0.85

00:46:05.000 didn't know all i know is i is i sounded stupid to me oh and then i had no voice control which i

00:46:13.520 realized later is like part of it and you kind of you know you're like chrissy yeah i love you

00:46:18.760 and you're like ew you know and that and then i went to new york and i studied and i did all that

00:46:24.940 stuff and then it kind of changed it i met this guy anthony zerby i started doing a bunch of

00:46:29.760 theater i started doing all that stuff's boring but yeah i took it seriously so i had 22 years

00:46:36.680 of taking it seriously because nobody was interested until really i did no country 0.79

00:46:42.880 yeah and then no country kind of changed shit kind of yeah definitely good for you dude yeah 0.57

00:46:52.280 thanks man sticking it out and still believing in yourself i bet were there times were you like 0.96

00:46:57.200 did you even did you get another job ever like was there a time where you're like i can't well

00:47:00.560 i guess you had to get a job at some point something else or were you were you able to 0.98

00:47:03.580 just financially take care of yourself yeah i did i was a landscaper for a year oh fuck yeah 0.87

00:47:08.940 and then i was when i was 30 i was i traded full-time i learned how to trade from a guy named 0.86

00:47:16.040 brett markinson trading what card stocks oh stocks yeah stocks wow and i was i was really

00:47:22.760 good at you're a stock trader for almost five years full time were you on the floor with the

00:47:28.540 tickets and stuff no bro oh that would have been great yeah you know no uh i was at home with one

00:47:35.520 two three screens and four tabs per screen oh you were day trading i was day trading i was swing

00:47:41.160 trading and day trading what's the most that you ever made like in a in a the most i made more

00:47:46.760 money i'd put it this way i made more money in those four years really it was five years but

00:47:51.920 within four years than I had made in 20 years acting. 0.99

00:47:56.960 Damn. 0.98

00:47:58.240 But I didn't really make hardly anything acting. 0.99

00:48:01.020 You know, there was, I didn't.

00:48:02.600 Because I wasn't really working.

00:48:04.360 I mean, think about it, dude.

00:48:05.460 And it's not, and I don't mean to insult anybody out there,

00:48:08.260 but if you think about like,

00:48:09.460 and I think it's okay to say this,

00:48:11.240 No Country I made,

00:48:12.080 how much do you think I made from No Country?

00:48:13.640 I had been doing it already for 22 years,

00:48:16.580 20 whatever years.

00:48:17.560 How much do you think I made?

00:48:18.320 They paid you to be in No Country for all minutes?

00:48:20.160 little bit about somebody being paid or not being paid how much do you think they pay i think that

00:48:24.460 they paid you up front i bet that they paid you two hundred thousand dollars that's pretty good

00:48:31.120 that was a good guess a hundred a hundred so i cleared what 30 yeah that's not considered a

00:48:37.760 great year no you know what i mean yeah 30 yeah and then i did american gangster after that because

00:48:43.520 i auditioned while i was doing no country i sent in a tape and my son who was 16 at the time played

00:48:50.620 the denzel part we sent in that tape that's pretty cool that's the last audition i ever did

00:48:56.060 and that was it i think so i think so i think maybe there was one other offer only i love that

00:49:03.240 you have to celebrate that stuff it's cool oh fuck that's cool that's so cool dude especially 0.85

00:49:07.580 that fucking hurting people with my auditions um but yeah anyway that's that and so the day 0.98

00:49:13.200 trading went good the day trading i loved man but you had to give it up to active but it was 0.95

00:49:17.820 day but that's the kind of like to to go back and like say how you're defined in your way and like

00:49:23.200 oh this is how i'm defined or it's fighting or it's drinking and all that kind of shit and then

00:49:28.180 you start things start to get revealed that you're good at you're like wow i could have developed 0.99

00:49:33.140 this shit when i was young given the opportunity or maybe given somebody to direct you a mentor 0.99

00:49:39.680 or a parent or something like that like you're actually good at this shit you're not a total 1.00

00:49:44.540 dumb shit right do you know what i mean yeah there was nothing there was nothing to suggest 0.99

00:49:49.180 that there was anything other than a hollow shell of alcohol yeah oh dude sometimes it's like if i 0.99

00:49:56.640 had somebody just to help lay down some banks that's it but instead i spend my whole life just 0.95

00:50:01.900 like literally just trying to keep the water in with my fucking hands it feels like that's it and 0.84

00:50:06.300 it just feels impossible sometimes but not all the time and over time it gets better yeah yeah um 0.98

00:50:11.960 when did you start to get sober when was that like journey for you quickly i'll tell you 19

00:50:17.140 i'd gotten busted for something and i had to get out of it so at 19 i at 19 and i was doing a little

00:50:24.160 i did a little bit of uh i did jail time but then i stayed sober for three and a half years then i

00:50:30.620 went back out very actively like consciously right and then i like i'm gonna go out there oh yeah

00:50:35.760 Like, I miss that.

00:50:37.320 Yeah.

00:50:37.520 I'm going to go do that again.

00:50:38.360 That crazy heart kind of.

00:50:39.380 Yeah.

00:50:39.800 Like, young.

00:50:40.700 Young.

00:50:41.260 I was, what, 23 when I went back out?

00:50:43.120 22, 23?

00:50:44.720 What were y'all drinking out there then?

00:50:46.520 I don't know.

00:50:47.080 We were just going to look at you all into it.

00:50:49.360 Just get me fired up.

00:50:50.260 You're like, what were y'all drinking?

00:50:52.520 Did it taste good?

00:50:54.920 What were we drinking back then?

00:50:56.420 I was drinking, what was I drinking? 1.00

00:50:57.560 I was drinking White Russians. 1.00

00:50:59.080 Why was I drinking White Russians? 0.98

00:51:00.680 Wow. 1.00

00:51:01.240 But it's for a reason.

00:51:02.420 It's like, why?

00:51:03.240 Are we trying to be fancy?

00:51:04.100 It was probably a movie.

00:51:04.700 No.

00:51:05.760 it wasn't fancy it was for i don't know oh yeah maybe that was it maybe when did it come out when

00:51:11.860 did that movie come out maybe that was it and then i end up working with him twice so there you go

00:51:19.060 98 98 no it wasn't that but it could have been but it could have been dude there was some unknown

00:51:26.140 connection we went to santa barbara and got to hang out with jeff one day no way yeah oh he's

00:51:31.400 the best it was only two months ago dude it was one of bro one of the coolest times of my life

00:51:35.220 he has a freaking chat gpt friend that no yeah dude that he talks with yeah gary's like gary

00:51:42.400 what and he's so of course he does bro he had me talking to gary like the dude 0.89

00:51:48.440 is so what does he do ask him questions he asked him like therapy questions all kinds of stuff he's

00:51:54.000 like tell him about our wife gary and he just he had me locked in bro it was just me him talking

00:52:00.380 into his computer then he made his computer make up a song about us hanging out it was crazy that's

00:52:05.520 great but it was so cool uh but yeah bridges was nice dude you know what he sent right he sent me

00:52:10.880 a nice picture that he drew for me yeah of course and he mailed it and he said we can get some soup

00:52:15.200 and i come back yeah soup just randomly yeah he could because he can say whatever he wants and it

00:52:21.720 works even with that voice even i was making fun of my voice is he you know been thrashing but he

00:52:28.440 like somehow made that voice cool hey man yeah how's it going man yeah it's good to see you man

00:52:37.360 yeah you're like how did you make that cool that's so not cool i do i love him man i worked

00:52:44.500 with him twice oh it's so cool he's the fucking best bro it was that was one of the coolest days

00:52:49.620 ever just getting just to sit around with him enjoy some moments talk about some different stuff 0.53

00:52:54.040 talked about like relationships and how it is yeah a little bit of buddhism he had his buddy

00:52:58.740 who had written a book um that was pretty cool and then he talked about he was in recovery too

00:53:02.980 he was he'd been in some recovery rooms yeah so we talked about that a little bit and we talked a

00:53:06.800 lot about crazy heart man yeah did you yeah because you love that movie i love it i do too

00:53:11.400 god do you know the guy who who made the movie who's the director oh man sober dude um which is

00:53:18.400 okay to say i think scott scott scott cooper jesus man sorry scott no dude bro that song in

00:53:25.700 there the weary kind yeah oh it's just so good everything about it and who wasn't colin farrell

00:53:31.980 in it colin farrell came up at the end and he sang a song at the end no yeah dude was colin

00:53:38.500 Farrell in that movie. You're our chat GPT. Jeff chat. What was his name? Gary. Gary to

00:53:47.940 yeah. Yeah. Yes. Gary. I got it. Hey Gary. Paul Herman. Peewee Herman. Peewee Herman. Peewee Herman.

00:53:56.980 Paul Herman. No. Paul Herman was in the Scorsese movies. Paul Herman. Paul Herman was the boyfriend

00:54:05.100 of my first wife when I met her

00:54:07.460 before we had our first two kids.

00:54:09.100 Dear God.

00:54:10.040 Just keep going through the internet

00:54:11.260 and I have some connection with every single thing

00:54:13.820 that you bring up.

00:54:14.640 Oh, dang, man.

00:54:16.400 Yeah, dude.

00:54:17.120 Paul Herman.

00:54:18.140 Paul Herman was great.

00:54:19.280 Robert Duvall, he played the bartender in it.

00:54:21.360 Played the bartender.

00:54:21.740 That helped him get sober.

00:54:22.960 That's right.

00:54:23.360 Dude, that movie was so...

00:54:25.200 It was so good, man.

00:54:26.520 So good.

00:54:27.160 And he was so good.

00:54:29.280 But you know what?

00:54:30.100 I remember seeing Jeff.

00:54:31.220 I hope Jeff is okay with me saying this.

00:54:32.960 i remember seeing jeff on the circuit on like the the promotional circuit during that time that he

00:54:38.280 did crazy heart and he looked i go hey how you doing he goes i miss being an underdog oh because 0.98

00:54:45.920 he was just going from one thing to the other to the other and it was like fuck that whole thing 0.99

00:54:51.860 you get ahead of your own skis i'm sure i would imagine because you do something that people love 0.97

00:54:57.140 or that you're lauded for but i've never had to really deal with it really it seems like it's

00:55:02.860 kind of get into that space does it feel like no you don't think i don't know oh yeah i don't know

00:55:08.200 i don't understand my career at all did you ever feel like you knew though no no really no because

00:55:16.080 i could see jeff like gets like so busy you don't kind of don't even know and then like whatever it

00:55:20.240 was it made you feel special it feels like you've out not outsourced it but you've you've used it a

00:55:25.200 lot yeah and even if you use your gifts a lot I feel like um they there's something about they

00:55:32.900 they lose their allure to you I think yeah man yeah yeah yeah I know exactly what you mean and

00:55:38.680 so but that also on top of that like I saw at Santa Barbara Bowl I saw Jeff that's the last

00:55:44.280 place I saw Jeff and we're talking and we were at Dylan and we both know Dylan separately at Bob

00:55:50.880 yeah and and and and and dylan and we were both talking about imagine what it's like being dylan

00:55:58.560 imagine the level of fame that you can't go anywhere without people going that's a genius

00:56:05.440 like that's bob fucking dylan who's defined eras in the world yeah while jeff and i are having 0.99

00:56:13.500 talk and maybe somebody's coming up going i love lebowski dude fuck yeah 0.98

00:56:21.280 or people go no country what was up with that dude's haircut you know why is jeff fans are 0.96

00:56:30.420 mexican it seems like i don't know because we're in santa barbara oh that's a good point bro crazy

00:56:35.900 Is he hard, bro?

00:56:36.580 Oh, I loved you in Milk.

00:56:38.780 El Leche. 0.99

00:56:40.040 Bro, you fucking played Harvey Milk, didn't you? 0.99

00:56:44.080 No, I didn't. 0.99

00:56:45.700 Bro, you were Harvey Milk?

00:56:47.080 It wasn't Harvey Milk, dude.

00:56:48.500 It was Sean Penn, wasn't it?

00:56:49.700 It was Sean Penn.

00:56:51.160 He's pretty incredible, huh?

00:56:52.280 Dude, he's amazing.

00:56:53.360 He's amazing in that movie.

00:56:54.320 I saw that movie recently.

00:56:55.500 Did you ever get to meet the guy that played My Red Foot or whatever?

00:56:58.320 You know what I'm talking about?

00:56:59.200 My Left Foot?

00:57:00.280 My Left Foot.

00:57:01.040 My Red Foot, I like.

00:57:02.460 My Red Foot.

00:57:02.740 That's the guy that got that rash.

00:57:04.860 Oh, yeah.

00:57:05.900 It was the guy, it was either him or it was that-

00:57:08.180 No, Daniel Day-Lewis?

00:57:09.960 Yes, dude.

00:57:10.800 God, I love talking to you, man.

00:57:12.640 You know nothing about the movie industry.

00:57:14.860 Yeah.

00:57:15.440 That's amazing.

00:57:16.040 I don't know a ton about it, man.

00:57:17.140 No, no, no, no.

00:57:17.860 I'm not blaming you.

00:57:19.420 I'm saying it's amazing. 0.99

00:57:21.860 It's amazing because you're talking about life shit. 0.99

00:57:25.340 Yeah. 0.99

00:57:25.540 I'm not talking about like, oh, you're here

00:57:27.040 and we're gonna talk about the movie industry all the time.

00:57:29.280 It's like, when you had Neil deGrasse Tyson in here,

00:57:32.520 how was that?

00:57:33.180 it was cool because i think some people like have thoughts like he has different views like

00:57:37.980 i think he thinks men can be pregnant and stuff like that or whatever but i don't care some of

00:57:43.260 that sometimes i don't care about like things like that like i want to talk to him about space

00:57:46.880 yeah and i want to hear his voice you know yeah yeah and so sometimes for me it's like sitting

00:57:50.960 and just listening to his voice for a couple of hours and and just seeing if i can like i don't

00:57:56.140 know just have some nice thoughts with him or something yeah sometimes it's just about like 0.98

00:57:59.500 spending time yeah so that was pretty cool and he's like did you know you know and he just fucking 0.84

00:58:05.160 he kind of seems like something like um i don't even know what he seems bigger than life he seems 0.97

00:58:10.760 like father time's like thick son father time's thick son yeah that's exactly it's like a father 0.99

00:58:16.740 time had a thick son that went and did his own shit like his space shit and his he's his dad's 0.99

00:58:22.500 like bro don't be doing all the space shit and neil's like i'm doing the space i'm doing it yeah 1.00

00:58:26.520 give a fuck what you say i'm going out on my own yeah and he also dude and he also like he went out 0.99

00:58:32.460 but with like a hat like um he just has this like kind of timeless i can't even explain it yeah no 0.99

00:58:38.380 that's what that's what i got when i met him he came up to me and he was like hey man i'm big fan

00:58:42.340 i just want to say hello and i was like oh nice to meet you it's great and then i'm talking to

00:58:46.260 him i don't recognize him and then i look down and he's got like one of those like aloha shirts

00:58:51.040 but it's got planets all over it and like shooting stars and i'm thinking what a weird shirt to wear 0.87

00:58:55.620 And I was like, no fucking way. 0.92

00:58:57.020 And then it hit me. 0.99

00:58:58.420 You're a Yoke to Cross Tyson.

00:59:00.140 Yeah.

00:59:00.600 You're Father Time.

00:59:01.920 Yeah.

00:59:02.620 But the thick cousin of Father Time.

00:59:04.800 Yeah, dude. 1.00

00:59:05.480 Fuck yeah. 1.00

00:59:07.020 It's so nice. 1.00

00:59:08.060 Yeah, dude.

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01:01:50.360 Go to chime.com slash disclosures for details. I love that shit. And that's why I asked because 0.99

01:01:57.480 things are being revealed now forget about like sobriety shit as an older person things are being 0.52

01:02:05.060 revealed now that i'm more excited about than i've ever been like like quantum physics with him and 0.96

01:02:11.520 then i started like reading his shit and then i started reading you know uh what's his name carlo

01:02:16.840 revello a revelli you know and that carlo revelli was was you know wrote this book on you know the 0.99

01:02:24.120 basics of quantum physics and is that him yeah yeah man and these guys are fucking genius yeah

01:02:33.200 and it's so fun following this like labyrinth of all this new stuff and being turned on to all this 0.92

01:02:39.240 shit that i'm like this is amazing this is like i feel like i'm this should have happened when i was

01:02:45.180 in school but it didn't but it's happening now and it's happening now it's so cool do you feel 0.90

01:02:50.200 like you've had two different lives a life before sobriety and after like is there something that

01:02:53.700 that did for you that made life even more interesting no i feel like there's been like

01:02:58.640 28 of them wow so there wasn't one or two or like one and then this happened then it all changed

01:03:05.960 yeah no and maybe because i've been sober a few times i don't know i don't know i don't think it

01:03:10.000 has to do i think part of it has to do with sobriety but part of it has to do with people i

01:03:13.520 met part of it has to do with setting like i just literally landed from tucson arizona and i went

01:03:19.080 tucson arizona for three days and i saw a guy that i've known for 38 years who i met on the

01:03:24.040 set of some series that i was doing out in the middle of nowhere 45 minutes from tucson

01:03:28.400 that nobody ever saw but i met this fireman out there and he's still one of my best friends

01:03:33.760 wow so i just went out there and stayed in his little guest room and and we you know and it's 0.95

01:03:39.160 just cool shit and tucson is fucking weird dude it's weird i used to live there what i freaking 0.92

01:03:44.440 lived near colbin pantano what yeah dude i used to freaking wait did you go to college there i went 0.97

01:03:50.340 to university arizona for one semester and i went to high school there for one semester too dude and

01:03:55.880 they would always have like all the kids like predominantly mexican kids at my school and that 0.89

01:03:59.520 means all mexican kids yeah that was me too and dude it was me bro and i took fucking spanish 0.98

01:04:05.740 class bro and they would fucking they were fucking over on the side fucking doing like 0.99

01:04:11.680 i think some of them were like even painting the classroom and shit like people were fucking 0.99

01:04:15.580 worth like they got jobs with the school for that hour or they were all hanging out i was the only 0.98

01:04:20.500 one talking with the teacher it was like me and the teacher just learning spanish and they all

01:04:24.500 knew it but it was a class that they had and all the kids would fight in a car wash after like you 0.90

01:04:29.840 want a box and they would fucking fight in the car wash how you know how to do the accent and 0.90

01:04:34.440 bro the best was the guy like the short guy but when he would talk he would have to get taller 0.98

01:04:39.580 like so he would look fucking straight up bro he'd be like dog you ever see la sleepy 0.62

01:04:44.800 she dances bring up la sleepy i've never seen her yeah oh la dormirse there's la sleepy oh bro 0.99

01:04:54.420 i love la sleepy she's cool shit she will dance on instagram for you look at oh yeah yeah no 0.61

01:05:03.440 anyway yeah uh tucson yeah tucson is magical my my my school three just to say it santa barbara 0.89

01:05:10.780 high three and a half thousand people 80 percent mexican really oh yeah 80 percent mexican and it's

01:05:17.340 and it wasn't like a thing and it's not a thing but it was definitely like when i showed up at 0.80

01:05:21.820 school it's like what you looking at white boy yeah it was like oh man it's all good 0.99

01:05:25.800 what's happening scrappy what's happening huevo yeah that's what they would say what's up pussy 1.00

01:05:30.280 What's up, Juevo? 0.96

01:05:31.560 What's up?

01:05:31.840 Call me Egg.

01:05:32.800 And it would be the blue pants, and then the wife beater, and then the shirt with the button up here, and open, all the rest, and the vans, the slip-on vans.

01:05:43.440 Yeah, it was cool.

01:05:44.400 Orale.

01:05:45.720 It was fun, bro.

01:05:46.620 Yeah, I went to Santa Rita.

01:05:48.000 Did you?

01:05:48.460 Yeah, Santa Rita High School.

01:05:49.820 And they would have, the alarms would go off.

01:05:52.360 They would have some sort of gang issues all the time.

01:05:54.400 And so the alarms would go off.

01:05:55.260 We'd have to lay down.

01:05:56.180 I remember laying down at lunch and having to just eat my cheeseburger, just laying there. 0.95

01:06:00.280 wasn't about like earthquakes and shit shootings it was just like violencia you know but it was a 0.98

01:06:07.160 fucking ever see two mexican chicks fight i don't know if i did but it's not nothing i've ever seen 0.98

01:06:14.460 in my life including tyson boxing matches that is that violent ever really oh bro yeah just went 0.99

01:06:22.920 at it because they get it done hair pulling punching nails that's what we need that's what

01:06:28.560 we need we need that back yeah we need that back do you know dana pretty well yeah i know dana

01:06:34.260 pretty well i do know dana yeah i know dana through motorcycling he loves harley's and i

01:06:38.660 love harley's yeah loves is that one of your uh hobbies like my thing is i have a group of guys

01:06:43.440 and i go these long pulls 1200 mile pulls or whatever and then dana does it with newer bikes

01:06:48.460 but he has you know his group of guys and he goes out and we talk and oh i didn't know that oh yeah

01:06:53.300 yeah he's been real good to me about just uh yeah just welcoming me into that group over there just

01:06:59.620 letting me be around their group yeah and um that's cool i do yeah i mean that's been one of

01:07:05.020 the gifts of my life is being associated with i think the people there and the the getting to see

01:07:10.180 the fighters inspired by a lot of those guys you know it's so fascinating do you like the fighting

01:07:14.420 i do yeah at first i didn't yeah me too when it first happened it's too much i was like this is 0.97

01:07:19.720 not going to work it was crazy dude it was the same people that were like breeding dogs and shit

01:07:23.720 would have like a VA fighting yeah they'd have a VHS tape the same guy that was like saying you 0.99

01:07:29.440 could fuck my sister bro or whatever like that guy would be watching it on the weekend he'd be like 0.97

01:07:34.540 these people are going to Hades or whatever you know like it was seriously though it just wasn't 1.00

01:07:39.300 going to work and then it got more interesting and more interesting and then it started overwhelming

01:07:43.220 boxing which was crazy oh the journey of it all has been crazy but in the beginning yeah I mean 0.98

01:07:48.020 And when you saw this, you were like, what the fuck is that? 0.96

01:07:49.960 I mean, look at that. 0.99

01:07:50.820 What's happening?

01:07:51.740 Is this heavyweight?

01:07:54.660 And what happened to the guy?

01:07:56.300 Did he deflate?

01:07:57.620 It just seems like I'm trying to think what happened.

01:08:00.920 And look, no gloves.

01:08:02.840 Bare knuckle.

01:08:03.740 And then now we've come all the way around back around a bare knuckle.

01:08:06.740 To bare knuckle.

01:08:07.460 With Mike Perry.

01:08:08.420 Yeah.

01:08:08.720 And what a great – what amazing to watch Mike Perry's journey where he, like,

01:08:12.480 he was in ufc beloved by people just for wearing his all of his heart on both of his sleeves and

01:08:18.560 just like and but couldn't he would always just go straight at the guy and get hit a million times

01:08:23.340 but then he created this other outlet for and it just like i don't know unreal so many great stories

01:08:28.680 i mean nick turned me on our producer nick's the one who kind of turned me on to ufc and um we had

01:08:32.920 tate fletcher in and then we had um i know tate yeah he's a great guy tate really well and then

01:08:37.840 dustin poirier came on and then he and i became friends and then just like david spade took me to

01:08:42.640 a ufc fight and then um and then since then yeah we've gotten a go and now they're letting me even

01:08:48.140 work on the ringside and doing like a um like commentating yeah but it's uh like a just a

01:08:53.780 casual commentating like yeah just throwing out shit yeah just me watching the fights with like

01:08:58.400 dean thomas so no way if you ever come you have to be a guest we had anthony key this last time 0.92

01:09:02.620 drew breeze came and was a guest dude drew breeze who like like yeah he came and was a guest um

01:09:12.120 just like so moments like that gaichi came rogan was just like none of that matters but just to

01:09:17.620 be able to sit there with them that we all have this thing in common it's amazing so cool it's

01:09:21.020 amazing it's nice to have the through line that's what i'm saying about the motorcycles and and and

01:09:25.180 you know it's like you have the through line man you have this interest you have this shared 0.57

01:09:31.300 interest and you're like this is fucking bitching yeah and yeah the UFC stuff is huge for me and 0.90

01:09:36.380 always has been what what was the last fight I haven't been to a fight in a long time the last 0.97

01:09:40.120 fight I went to was when Holly Holmes lost to Misha Tate yeah that was Nate Diaz when Nate Diaz

01:09:51.180 won or lost to Conor McGregor oh wow Conor what submission by whom oh by Nate so Nate Diaz won

01:10:00.000 and holly home lost that was a long time ago yeah that was a while ago that was the last fight that

01:10:05.960 i was at and i and i saw joe there and all that oh yeah so it's just so much fun dude it's so much

01:10:10.900 fun and all the people that dana has working around him craig borsari yeah um nicole amber

01:10:17.800 just like there's so many people there and now when i see them like i just remember like it's

01:10:21.780 family yeah it really feels like it like family you have i do want to make sure that we talk about

01:10:27.400 you have a new project coming out called whale fall yes sir what do you want to talk about well

01:10:33.200 have you seen it no i haven't seen it they won't allow me to watch it no i don't i know i i think

01:10:37.740 i knew that um and that's okay yeah whale fall austin abrams it's it's bitching i mean it really

01:10:45.060 is like a word that i can use that you understand it's one of these movies it's there's a book

01:10:50.480 written by uh daniel krauss who's become a really close friend who stayed in our house for a couple

01:10:55.880 weeks finishing his last novel he just won the pulitzer for the novel that he did after this

01:11:01.800 which is called angel down i read this while i was doing when i was working with ridley in italy

01:11:07.560 on uh ridley scott yeah with the dog stars that just came out and i was reading this book while

01:11:14.560 i was doing that movie and i remember getting to the end of the book and i slowed it down which i

01:11:18.960 hadn't done for a long time and slowed it down because i didn't want it to end and then it end 0.75

01:11:23.160 and i put the book on my chest and i fucking sobbed like when was the last time i've done that 0.84

01:11:28.520 of what you mean well fall when i read the book and then i didn't even read the script i said i'm 0.88

01:11:33.540 in i'll do it and you know it's not like it's playing the dad of austin abrams who goes the

01:11:40.480 dad dies austin abrams goes out to try to find his remains knowing where he went down he jumped

01:11:47.220 out of a boat went down don't tell me everything no no no i won't tell you everything he gets

01:11:50.960 swallowed by the whale and then god and you're like how do you do a movie where a dude spends

01:11:57.080 80 of the story how do you write a book or do a movie where the guy spends 80 of the time 0.75

01:12:02.960 in a whale in a whale and it's fucking really good wow like and i'm pretty i'm pretty honest 0.53

01:12:09.540 about when i see a movie i go yeah we missed a little bit yeah you said thrasher was bad 0.99

01:12:14.580 yeah yeah it came along though it did and then and then i learned not to say shit's bad wow yeah 0.89

01:12:20.600 because somebody comes up and says hey man you know my parents were junkies in this and i watched 0.89

01:12:25.860 that movie and i found skateboarding and skateboarding became my skateboarding saved

01:12:30.680 my life and i go okay so i'll never say you know hey were you in thrash and i go yeah that movie

01:12:35.620 sucked you know what i mean like why do you put that on there that's not their experience

01:12:40.460 so whale fall did doesn't suck whale fall is really good the directing's really good the

01:12:46.620 Acting, Austin Abrams is amazing.

01:12:49.520 He was in Weapons with me.

01:12:51.000 Bring up a picture of Austin Abrams.

01:12:52.520 Dude, I got to meet freaking Austin Butler not long ago.

01:12:54.700 Have you ever met him?

01:12:55.540 I did Dune with him.

01:12:56.580 You did?

01:12:57.420 I did. 1.00

01:12:58.260 Dude, I have to fucking watch that. 0.99

01:12:59.280 I did Dune with him, yeah. 0.99

01:13:01.660 That's him?

01:13:02.500 Yeah, that's him.

01:13:03.580 He looks a little skinny there,

01:13:04.680 but if you look to the left,

01:13:06.180 he looks a little more full-faced.

01:13:08.540 Yeah, he also looks a bit like-

01:13:11.200 That looks a little like you.

01:13:12.700 Really?

01:13:13.540 No.

01:13:16.620 what about that one no he looks like timothy you didn't see you didn't like timothy chalamet you

01:13:22.320 think so shalla maybe dude no shame no shame and also to even look close to timothy chalamet is

01:13:31.400 pretty good yeah but that's cool bro timothy's kind of the tip top of it all right timothy's a

01:13:37.140 neat guy yeah you haven't seen dune i haven't seen oh i will tell you this i tried to watch it and

01:13:42.420 The freaking audio was bad on the television I was watching on.

01:13:44.920 Oh, sorry.

01:13:45.140 So you can't do that because the audio is like everything in that movie.

01:13:48.320 Dune 1, Dune 2, Dune 3. 0.99

01:13:51.800 Oh, fuck. 1.00

01:13:53.760 Sicario. 1.00

01:13:54.740 Have you seen Sicario?

01:13:55.820 Is that with Marlon Brando?

01:13:57.400 No, that's with me and... 1.00

01:13:59.600 Oh, shit. 1.00

01:14:00.060 Wait, who? 1.00

01:14:00.640 I'm going to be fired, dude.

01:14:01.260 Benicio Del Toro.

01:14:03.400 The other worst actor?

01:14:05.200 The other worst actor, yeah.

01:14:08.160 Emily Blunt.

01:14:09.220 That's a good movie, dude.

01:14:10.460 Sicario?

01:14:11.240 Yeah.

01:14:11.520 I'll put it on stuff to consume I have a list of things to consume in my you know I'm an actor

01:14:15.260 yeah that's what I do what do you do I heard you were sober I don't know

01:14:22.820 I'm sorry dude some of the stuff good okay good sorry dude yeah yeah I know a lot of stuff I know

01:14:32.360 you do okay thank you smart dude thanks dude um oh there's another one thanks for bringing up

01:14:38.160 another one only the brave only the brave with miles teller dude and he's jeff bridges oh wow

01:14:45.040 there's jeff miles is a good dancer

01:14:46.720 miles is a good dancer yeah he is how do you know that he just dances to the beat of his own drum

01:14:53.740 i've seen him at places him dancing and sometimes i used to go up and talk to him if i saw him i

01:14:57.820 mean miles and i get along well and i yeah we're buddies we'll text and stuff and chat about the

01:15:01.760 fights yeah but now if i see him dance and i just stay and admire it yeah no i do too because you

01:15:06.640 can't dance right not like him no i can't dance enjoy himself yeah i always had a tough time

01:15:12.560 enjoying myself does that make any sense no it does it makes perfect sense because i had the

01:15:17.220 same thing like i look like an idiot right now yeah and imagine doing it on film oh where they 0.98

01:15:22.960 go hey you're gonna do this dance and everybody goes oh too scary that sucks too scary josh looks 0.98

01:15:28.720 like a neanderthal trying to dance that's not cool i'm like no i can't do it i can't do it and

01:15:35.320 then miles does it you go hey that's how it's done it can be done yeah he just and he does his

01:15:40.120 own way yeah yeah i admire that he's just able to be such in a free space yeah um he's a good

01:15:45.880 actor too yeah dude he's good really good he's really good he's so entertaining um oh what what

01:15:52.380 about the book made you sob at the at the end was it just the ending or was it something no i think

01:15:56.300 it was the father-son relationship because the father in the book is super hard on the son

01:16:04.800 and the son rejects it in a major way.

01:16:08.760 And then what he needs in order to hopefully survive

01:16:16.160 is exactly what the father taught him.

01:16:19.740 Do you know what I mean? 0.99

01:16:20.860 So it's not like the father was just being a dick to be a dick. 0.99

01:16:23.980 It's just the way that came out that seemed dicky. 0.99

01:16:26.840 Yeah.

01:16:27.440 You know what I'm saying?

01:16:28.260 Yeah.

01:16:28.960 And then you realize, oh, the dad actually cared

01:16:32.000 and it actually meant something.

01:16:33.920 and maybe somehow the father even knew intuitively

01:16:38.160 that he was going to need it.

01:16:39.860 That's crazy.

01:16:41.180 That was cool to me.

01:16:42.880 That's a good writer to me.

01:16:44.660 Like somebody who you're just reading this kind of surface thing

01:16:47.420 and you're like, yeah, there's a really cool story.

01:16:49.420 And then somehow somebody reaches inside you 0.99

01:16:52.480 and just fucking grabs your heart and fucking squeezes it. 1.00

01:16:55.780 Surprise, motherfucker. 1.00

01:16:56.960 Surprise, motherfucker. 1.00

01:16:57.680 I'm not even a doctor. 1.00

01:16:59.860 That's right.

01:17:02.180 I mean, yeah.

01:17:03.220 Yeah.

01:17:03.920 And your dad was an actor.

01:17:05.660 My dad is an actor.

01:17:07.020 Is your dad?

01:17:07.660 Sorry.

01:17:08.160 He's still alive.

01:17:09.140 Thank God.

01:17:09.800 Yeah.

01:17:10.900 Thank God.

01:17:11.820 Thank God. 0.69

01:17:12.760 He's 86, and he's killing it.

01:17:16.300 He's doing well.

01:17:17.300 Well, James, you have a nice son.

01:17:20.080 I'll say that to you.

01:17:20.980 Thank you.

01:17:21.800 Your dad was famous when you were growing up.

01:17:24.280 He fluctuated, man. 0.99

01:17:26.380 He did a show called, fuck, Marcus Welby when I was a kid. 0.98

01:17:31.780 so we were my parents were super poor and they both come my dad was kind of middle class family 0.98

01:17:37.840 my mom was super poor family from texas and then and then he got this fucking role on tv that became

01:17:46.060 like the friends of that generation it was a number one tv show for like five years really 0.85

01:17:51.780 yeah what was it called marcus welby yeah look at that's him and then he and then he fluctuated

01:18:00.360 he did a movie called amityville horror like oh yeah that's 20 years after that or maybe 10 years

01:18:05.320 after that so he would have money and then not have money and then have money and not have money

01:18:09.920 and he you know like normal actor man yeah normal creative profession it's like you know you have

01:18:15.700 books that sell and books that don't sell you have movies that do well you have movies that don't do

01:18:19.700 well so you saw this growing up do you think that's why you ended up on i think it's part of

01:18:23.900 it i think it's part of it yeah sometimes you but my mom wrote a harley he didn't ride a harley my 0.97

01:18:29.140 mom rode a harley fuck yeah with the monkey which was probably unsafe reggie reggie reggie rode on 0.99

01:18:36.400 the back dude how could i have a suspended license how in the fuck did you do right now how do you 0.99

01:18:41.340 get a license oh wait you have a specific yeah i had one did you yeah 17 18 16 17 17 18 you got 0.96

01:18:49.460 suspended yeah yeah they'll give it back they don't like to sometimes they don't like to give it back

01:18:54.180 They don't, and they shouldn't, but they'll give it back.

01:18:57.240 Dude, but what about, so if your dad was famous,

01:18:59.960 was it weird, was fame like this weird thing

01:19:02.280 that you felt like?

01:19:03.860 I still feel it, man.

01:19:05.480 I mean, look, if we.

01:19:06.360 But did you feel like, was it a big thing to your dad

01:19:09.320 or was the acting a big thing?

01:19:10.840 Is that a weird question?

01:19:11.940 Yeah, but it was my mom,

01:19:14.320 like I don't mean to demean my dad,

01:19:16.260 but my mom would call studio heads

01:19:18.220 when my dad didn't get something and say, 1.00

01:19:20.440 are you stupid? 1.00

01:19:21.580 Yeah. 1.00

01:19:22.360 Have you seen my husband?

01:19:24.180 Like, he's 6'4", super handsome.

01:19:26.520 Like, why would you use this other guy when you could use him?

01:19:29.740 So they were all talking about my mom.

01:19:32.280 Because my mom, like I said, had no filter. 1.00

01:19:34.420 She was a publicist. 1.00

01:19:35.100 She was everything.

01:19:36.340 That's amazing.

01:19:37.140 So she would just call and just, you know, and they would talk to each other and be like,

01:19:41.240 have you gotten a call from this girl?

01:19:42.620 Like, oh, yeah, I talked to her last week.

01:19:44.960 And my dad, not all his jobs, but he got some jobs from that.

01:19:49.220 You know what I mean?

01:19:49.820 Yes.

01:19:50.220 but fame was like uh i remember my dad doing really well at some point and i and he would

01:19:56.220 get really irritated with the attention with the attention yeah with the attention with public

01:20:01.960 attention some people eat it up you know do you um i think there was a time where you were excited

01:20:09.480 about it yeah you want people to know who you are yeah and then there's a time like i think it got

01:20:14.260 to a point where it was kind of, maybe I don't put scary as the word, but, um, you know what I

01:20:20.080 miss, like I used to, one thing I even like used to like about comedy was if it was a surprise to

01:20:27.100 people. Yeah. Because when people don't know that you're that people haven't seen you, that's what

01:20:32.500 I mean, then you can, you have the opportunity to surprise them with something that you say

01:20:37.060 and that disappears. So then you have to work in a different space with humor and maybe with

01:20:42.700 anything which may be cool because you're having to reinvent your own humor yeah so that's cool

01:20:48.320 because that's creative yeah and you have to like redesign this whole thing but at the same time it's

01:20:53.660 kind of a bummer because everybody knows you if you do too many freaking podcasts or too many

01:20:57.780 interviews people know you so well that what could you possibly do yeah on the stage or on the screen 0.67

01:21:04.140 that people are like i had no idea and i thought you were paraplegic

01:21:09.920 yeah yeah yeah you know what i mean you're playing pre-fontaine

01:21:13.680 and dude i think sometimes you start to like i don't know i think there's moments where it's like

01:21:21.340 i i don't like you don't even like like i don't know if it's like you don't even like yourself

01:21:27.280 that you put out there or something or it's like you want to be something different i don't know

01:21:32.960 yeah it's all i think a lot of it's been kind of interesting here's what i do think about it a lot

01:21:37.980 of times i try not to attach myself to it too much when i do that gets kind of like then i'm

01:21:43.280 really stuck kind of in some ego space yeah and i try to um just be like okay this is an interesting

01:21:48.300 experiment that god kind of has me in i get to see what this is like to have popularity i get

01:21:54.120 to see what it's like yeah i'll experiment with this yes i'll experiment my reaction to it i'll

01:21:58.980 experiment with yeah see that's when it's cool yeah but it's not like i don't want it to determine

01:22:03.620 um like there were times when i was struggling with sobriety and i didn't even want to talk

01:22:08.400 about it on the podcast because yeah because you were struggling with but i but i'm okay with that

01:22:14.920 part but i didn't want this is about alcoholism i think but it's like i was afraid that well what

01:22:22.440 if people respond to that in some way and then my alcoholistic mind or whatever starts either

01:22:29.260 relapsing or doing something like that just to get people to then like pay attention i got it

01:22:35.780 it was like i don't want to like what if i play into this public persona yes so they'll keep

01:22:40.980 liking me or they'll care or i can surprise them in this way right i lived on that man i lived on

01:22:47.180 the stories that i wouldn't even remember but i lived on because it made me it materialized me 0.89

01:22:54.920 it made me seen it was like fuck do you know what you did yesterday i was like no what oh and they 0.91

01:23:01.160 were like dude yeah you know what i mean yeah and then you go oh okay that's who i am like me talking 0.98

01:23:09.000 about my mom now and you're fascinated i'm like i'll create my version of that yeah and then to

01:23:14.840 not do that you have to create this other thing and then you know like you you're obviously really

01:23:19.900 good at what you do and people are like oh you're good at that you're not just good at cocaine yeah

01:23:25.840 you're good well tell me tell me a little bit more about what you're saying because i'm a little

01:23:29.180 confused on it yeah i think that fame what fame can do is define you in a way and i don't want

01:23:37.720 to be defined i don't want to be defined as an alcoholic i don't want to be defined as famous

01:23:42.920 i don't want to be defined even as an actor as like i realize it's what i do i don't want to 0.81

01:23:46.980 be defined as anything is anything what is i want to keep discovering shit i want to keep learning 0.54

01:23:52.200 shit i want to keep surprising myself if i decided to quit acting tomorrow and i decided to become a 0.81

01:23:58.180 full-time trader if i wanted to be a photographer i wanted to do this i want to be allowed to do 0.97

01:24:02.480 that i don't want to be imprisoned by some idea that i've finally been accepted as this one thing

01:24:08.960 because that's not my goal is to be accepted do you know what i mean yeah as you're saying i'm

01:24:14.900 thinking about it i don't want to be defined i don't want to be defined i don't want you to know

01:24:19.020 who i am because i don't know who i am right but then what what happens when you finally know who

01:24:23.620 you are or you don't care as much how people perceive you and then you're like i'm good with

01:24:28.880 that you know it's like when with fame i said there's one thing if with fame i've realized this

01:24:36.900 is that every person who looks at me

01:24:41.920 with some kind of an idea that it's elevated,

01:24:45.940 that what I do is elevated,

01:24:47.800 they think that as an actor who's doing well

01:24:50.940 is walking a perpetual red carpet

01:24:53.000 waving at a perpetual audience. 1.00

01:24:56.000 Like, you don't do real shit. 1.00

01:24:57.780 Right. 0.99

01:24:58.560 Like, you don't change the chicken shavings 0.98

01:25:02.120 with the shit all over it and put it in the bag 0.99

01:25:04.320 and then take the bag to the trash yourself. 1.00

01:25:06.180 right you don't pet the pig you just eat the pork that's exactly right yeah that's exactly right

01:25:11.460 and you go no i don't want to i don't want that i don't want that and then people do that

01:25:17.380 then they start thinking oh that's what i gotta do as a famous actor i gotta i gotta overreact 0.99

01:25:23.100 i gotta just eat the pork fuck the pig i don't even want to see the pig i'm hungry you know can 0.99

01:25:31.200 you go do that thing that you do to prepare my yeah you know what i mean and i just don't want 1.00

01:25:36.280 to do that especially in my profession because i like your profession you're a mirror you throw 0.97

01:25:42.460 shit back in people's face and they can laugh at it they can laugh at their foibles they can laugh 0.99

01:25:48.660 at their you know how absurd we are and the shit that we say and the stuff that we do and i think 0.99

01:25:54.920 that actors do the same thing in story it's like yeah do you know what i mean yeah when you see an 0.96

01:26:00.280 actor do something that you just can't and they are a scene that does something that you can't

01:26:06.380 even you don't even know why you're crying yeah you don't know why you're laughing yeah you ever

01:26:12.740 done that thing where you're watching a movie and you're like cry laughing you're like so i'm moved

01:26:17.920 but at the same time it's family man like family man yeah really have you seen that nicholas cage

01:26:24.380 yeah yeah that's old school that's old school you love that movie i love it yeah it's good

01:26:32.200 see everybody has their thing i love that movie that's why you can't say like thrash and ew

01:26:37.220 you're like i don't know i'm gonna go watch that and we have those movies that have those books

01:26:42.240 we have those movies we have those seeing eddie murphy for the first time i remember when i was

01:26:47.920 in my room in santa barbara and i had this little tv this little with the with the uh the antenna

01:26:53.920 oh yeah you know and i'm watching what was it delirious for the first time i'm like what the

01:27:00.300 fuck oh yeah this is amazing oh yeah it felt like something like you couldn't even get into the 0.58

01:27:06.860 world dude my we had my bro we had a tv like that and i would step and watch stuff sometimes and my 1.00

01:27:12.920 brother would be like turn off the fucking tape or i will fucking hide your legs in your asshole 1.00

01:27:17.740 right he would say stuff like that because he was creative but then here's what he would happen to 1.00

01:27:22.360 this is what he would do to me he'd be like art you can watch it but you have to fucking keep your 0.72

01:27:26.080 eyes closed dude and he'd be like so he's so dude i'm more creative crazy so i'd have to have the 0.97

01:27:31.720 volume on the lowest thing as possible i would be this close to the fucking yeah dude watching a 0.99

01:27:39.140 fucking program well you fucking older brother yes of course well he tells me he's awake but 0.99

01:27:44.800 really he'd fucking dozed off in a second later but i couldn't tell because he was like it was 1.00

01:27:49.360 dark in there hilarious oh that's hilarious fuck stuff like that was so good louisiana 0.99

01:27:55.060 stuff like that is so good you look back on it you're like that was that was a good time 0.99

01:27:59.580 that wasn't a bad time we're fucking we were we were making stories at least like even though i

01:28:05.220 was like i don't know there were parts of me that had to come alive so early i think because 0.64

01:28:09.940 things were so uncomfortable and i'm glad i think i'm glad that they were a lot it took me kind of

01:28:13.840 a long time to get there yeah yeah yeah and i had a lot of how old are you i'm 46 yeah so i'm almost

01:28:19.180 i'm almost your age but no getting close though 12 years you're 12 years older than me yeah god 0.96

01:28:25.920 yeah dude you fucking look good you know and i wish you oh boy chill bro i wish you were a freaking 0.98

01:28:32.780 a woman and i don't even know what that means dude i gotta get some help we should just stop 0.98

01:28:40.400 it there i don't know we're almost you were a woman thank you for joining us this is the theo

01:28:46.540 vaughn podcast um i do want to talk about one thing i want to talk about like so i'm going

01:28:52.460 through the steps again right now yeah right on with my sponsor yeah and um did you like i was

01:28:58.240 thinking about resentments did you ever have yourself as a resentment of course oh my god

01:29:03.880 probably the biggest one that's crazy dude yeah why that's come that's that's come up for me

01:29:08.900 yeah i and somebody said something in a meeting the other day dude and they said um i'm unacceptable

01:29:15.560 to myself yeah and i had never heard those words before yeah and it was like man that's a lot of

01:29:23.000 and i'm not in self-pity i'm just looking at it no no no just looking at it yeah but i'm like dude

01:29:27.440 that is a lot of like self-loathing i've just it gets like i'm unacceptable to myself yeah but

01:29:34.240 you know not interesting it's super interesting and i heard and i and i've told this story before

01:29:39.240 but i'll tell you a story that i loved and it shifted something in me and tony hopkins told

01:29:44.100 me this story right who very proudly wears his sobriety on his sleeve yeah talks about it and

01:29:51.040 will be in instagram or whatever which i love that tony hopkins is on instagram 0.98

01:29:54.860 That's fucking great. 0.95

01:29:55.860 He's an artist. 0.99

01:29:56.860 Yeah, he just, he loves, like, it's not even like,

01:29:59.860 you know, Instagram is this thing where you're trying

01:30:01.860 to project some image and that people believe, 0.98

01:30:03.860 he doesn't give a fuck. 0.99

01:30:04.860 Yeah. 0.99

01:30:05.860 He's just like, this is me.

01:30:06.860 Oh, I gotta see more.

01:30:07.860 And look it, now he's just like wrote all these songs,

01:30:09.860 like now he's not even focused on acting.

01:30:11.860 He's like doing these compositions

01:30:13.860 and these philharmonics are doing his music.

01:30:16.860 It's just the coolest human being ever.

01:30:18.860 But he told me, he was like, how great is it

01:30:21.860 that we're like this?

01:30:22.860 this and i go what does that mean he was like we're just alcoholic we're just angry and we're edgy

01:30:28.260 and we're just dark and i was like is that a good thing is that like i've always been like i always

01:30:33.940 perceived that as like that it's shitty and again and he goes no because given no direction and no

01:30:41.220 tools we create more harm and hurt than normal people than most people but given a few tools

01:30:48.460 we can have a bigger impact

01:30:50.220 than most people

01:30:51.380 given that we have the drive

01:30:54.140 that we have the motor

01:30:55.500 we have the motor of alcoholics 1.00

01:30:58.040 I'm like fuck yeah 1.00

01:30:59.560 but I heard that and I thought 0.99

01:31:04.200 this is an 80 year old guy 1.00

01:31:05.940 telling me this shit 1.00

01:31:07.220 that's it 1.00

01:31:09.200 and he's British as well

01:31:10.660 what does that mean 1.00

01:31:12.600 it just means he was fucking raised with a fucking 1.00

01:31:14.780 eating Cadbury eggs and everything 1.00

01:31:16.900 he's welsh he's welsh he's welsh like like richard burton which the welsh are different are they

01:31:24.560 welsh are darker are they yeah man oh that's good they're like great poets dylan thomas was welsh i

01:31:30.320 gotta study up on them yeah man i'll send you a couple books i'm gonna send you my book will you

01:31:34.760 yeah see of course i will great i want you to put it up on our shelf dude okay good um on that note

01:31:40.600 i do want to say i i read some of the you were friends with cormac mccarthy are you that you

01:31:43.860 knew him yeah yeah i was with him the night he died no way dude yeah it was me his son his ex-wife

01:31:51.280 and him did he live in tennessee no he lived in santa fe new mexico and i was there working i was

01:31:56.480 doing a series and i would come in and see him and at his house i have i have his typewriter i have

01:32:02.360 his pool table wow his couch shit that he gave me after you know it's cool it's cool he's a good 0.92

01:32:09.340 Dude, I like the hard guys. 0.98

01:32:11.620 Yeah.

01:32:12.080 I like the guys that, like, you think that, like, 0.98

01:32:16.160 Cormac and the shit that he wrote is so severe and so, you know. 0.98

01:32:19.840 But then he was the nicest guy. 1.00

01:32:22.060 And he's so smart.

01:32:24.020 He's so smart.

01:32:24.860 20,000 books he left when he died.

01:32:28.700 And they were archiving his books.

01:32:30.260 And he had, like, 1,000 books on math or 300 books on whales. 0.97

01:32:37.680 You're like, oh, you're a freak.

01:32:39.340 I love that. 0.98

01:32:40.540 Talk about not being defined.

01:32:42.900 And plus, that's another guy,

01:32:44.460 which I think there was a parallel,

01:32:45.940 even though we didn't talk about it,

01:32:47.620 is that the first,

01:32:49.020 and Tell All the Pretty Horses,

01:32:50.220 which I think is his sixth novel or his seventh,

01:32:53.440 that people had maybe bought

01:32:55.040 maybe 1,200 books of each novel, 1.00

01:32:58.080 so nobody bought his shit. 1.00

01:33:00.600 Wow. 1.00

01:33:01.240 And he kept going.

01:33:03.460 And it's kind of like me as an actor.

01:33:05.040 Like, yeah, I started with The Goonies,

01:33:06.800 which was cool,

01:33:07.380 but then after that,

01:33:08.120 it was just downhill. Nobody bought my shit. Nobody cared. Nobody cared. Oh, I was singing 1.00

01:33:13.020 Shirley Temple. Yeah, you were, exactly. That's what I mean. For free near windows that wouldn't

01:33:17.780 open. Dude, like now you're 46 and things are good. You know, it's great. I know sometimes I

01:33:23.160 can't believe God's grace in my life, even just in little moments, you know, and when I'm in that

01:33:27.080 space, it's just, everything's, it feels okay. I like what you said earlier, which you just like,

01:33:33.160 everything's an experiment. As long as I'm malleable, I'm like wet clay and I'm like,

01:33:37.320 yeah good oh that's interesting oh look at that that's cool yeah not like this not contracting

01:33:43.580 and not like that you know just like ah that's interesting it's just like it's all kind of

01:33:49.920 fascinating going to ufc is fascinating getting up and trying to make people laugh it's fascinating

01:33:55.580 doing a movie and trying to make it work is fascinating yeah dude it's so true like human 0.80

01:34:00.540 shit yeah yesterday i had to do a solo episode of a podcast and i was so scared and then i was like 0.76

01:34:05.460 dude i'm gonna have let me remember why i started this i can let me go and try to have some fun 0.98

01:34:12.020 yeah instead of fucking live in this whatever cage i'm fucking always over here welding these 0.92

01:34:17.180 fucking bars and screaming through them that's cool you did an episode by yourself yeah we started 0.99

01:34:27.780 this podcast we did first hundred episodes it was just be by myself talking and then we started 0.98

01:34:31.080 having friends on and stuff like that i didn't know that yeah it was fun that's cool it's been

01:34:35.800 a good journey dude um it's interesting he had all those books on whales and you ended up and

01:34:40.360 your new project is called whale fall and i got super inspired by that and then i wrote a new

01:34:45.320 story that we're going to do in january called the fisherman and then after that which is like

01:34:49.840 this is full circle with the rat then uh jeremy renner and i there's a story that's a true story

01:34:56.140 that took place in uh montauk about a guy two guys that went out on a boat fishing in this

01:35:02.380 montauk fishing community one guy fell asleep one dude fell off the boat and this guy was looking

01:35:09.120 for this guy for 12 and a half hours and this dude was just like a rat waiting in the water

01:35:14.200 no way he was going to survive no way he was going to be found it was like a 200 mile you know this

01:35:20.960 radius and you just like there's no way you're going to find the dude and he had no floating

01:35:25.220 device he had no nothing dang and he survived like a rat yeah 12 and a half hours of swimming

01:35:32.460 in place until he was found right at the last second he probably was sharks surrounded by

01:35:37.800 sharks so i'm gonna be the i'm gonna be the rat and jeremy's gonna be the guy looking for me dude

01:35:44.840 much easier job renner has i'll say that bro taking the easy this guy i'll do it with brolin 0.96

01:35:52.580 that sounds fun yeah you're fucking soaking wet every set yeah i like the whale stuff though i 0.97

01:35:58.960 like wow that's a uh lighthouse that's the nautical shit did you get that done after that 0.98

01:36:09.420 i did let's go i did you it meant that i mean it meant that much and it was a guy who had passed

01:36:16.940 that it was let me see you already showed it once it was hit in his honor i'm looking at the art

01:36:22.180 to not look at your body okay now you're making it different oh dude that's cool bro i mean it

01:36:31.720 just is what it is and i don't have to look at it everybody else has to look at it but i know 0.96

01:36:35.980 i'm carrying it and that's all i give a shit about yeah it's a good reminder for me and there's a 0.53

01:36:41.040 great word arte it's a greek word that this guy gave me and it means excellence in everything 0.97

01:36:45.620 that you do and then the five birds of my family so that's cool that's a family crash experiment 0.93

01:36:52.460 experimenting that's it why get a tattoo i don't know why the fuck not yeah i don't have i mean i 0.86

01:36:59.340 have these but i don't really have it i had all my tattoos removed yeah when i was 30 yeah didn't 0.80

01:37:05.680 need them anymore and then this one came and sure why not do it yeah experiment man i love it um

01:37:15.240 nice spending time bro you too dude nice to get to catch up nice to get to say hello and to spend

01:37:19.700 some time together man uh i've heard you speak before uh yeah i think it was at bread and roses

01:37:24.680 yeah right on and we know lodge yeah we know lies dude who's such a sweet guy he is a sweet guy i

01:37:30.660 gotta check in with him also i'll text him a picture of us when we're done yeah um but yeah

01:37:35.220 thanks so much josh thanks for uh just being a creative thanks for sticking with your art

01:37:38.660 uh that's cool because now you can tell stories that are gonna inspire the rest of us thanks for

01:37:42.700 telling me about whale fall and just that it meant something to you because um yeah sometimes it's

01:37:47.320 like you don't know who else um is looking for that little piece of connection between like

01:37:50.600 or something about a father and a son and they're gonna hear about that and that might be something

01:37:55.040 for them so exactly yeah getting out here today to be a bridge uh for little moments um that's

01:38:00.480 pretty cool yeah so josh brolin thank you so much man thank you brother yep much love

01:38:05.840 now i'm just floating on the breeze and i feel i'm falling like these leaves i must

01:38:12.600 me cornerstone. Oh, but when I reach that ground, I'll share this peace of mind I found. I can feel

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This Past Weekend with Theo Von - October 13, 2026

#690 - Josh Brolin

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