This Past Weekend with Theo Von - October 28, 2026


#692 - Sophie Cunningham

#691 - Johnny Hamcheck

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00:00:00.000 She's number eight for the Indiana Fever and a cornerstone for that locker room. 0.99
00:00:05.680 She's one of the most talked about players in the WNBA, and she's absolutely hilarious.
00:00:12.100 I'm thankful that I got to sit down with Miss Sophie Cunningham.
00:00:17.260 Shine on me, and I will find a song I've been singing.
00:00:30.000 oh so are you gonna be touring like just working with tekova the whole time yeah oh sweet yeah
00:00:37.900 dude i wish i would have known because yeah tekova sponsors our podcast too dude you need to get 0.96
00:00:42.660 some shit kickers man i don't know what happened i have some i don't know who took them um sophie 0.97
00:00:47.960 cunningham what's up nothing let's start there how about that there you go okay it's good it's 0.98
00:00:53.580 nice outside oh it's so nice oh i feel honestly i almost feel bad being in here why just because
00:00:58.820 it's because you just said it's because it's nice well we should have done this out by the pool
00:01:01.920 yeah but i don't know because sometimes there's wind conditions and we tried one time
00:01:05.660 and they had like um a there was like some nightingales or something or uh sparrows or
00:01:12.480 something and it was like problematic well yeah i was kidding but oh i could see yeah i wouldn't
00:01:17.460 want a bird to shit on me so it's fine yeah i mean and it's good luck in some countries i think
00:01:21.580 where is that if an animal don't even look it up never mind let's keep it moving dude 0.98
00:01:29.220 Thanks for hanging out.
00:01:30.500 Yeah, thanks for having me. 0.56
00:01:31.360 You're here for the race.
00:01:33.140 Nice.
00:01:33.960 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:01:34.600 What are your plans with the race?
00:01:36.820 Probably watch some cars.
00:01:38.300 Okay.
00:01:38.920 Meet some drivers.
00:01:40.640 Meet some teams.
00:01:41.620 I think that'd be fun.
00:01:43.020 I have a couple girlfriends coming down.
00:01:45.100 Really?
00:01:45.480 Yeah, and so we're just going to kick it.
00:01:47.140 Like, this is like my first weekend that I can just like relax and kind of have some fun.
00:01:50.180 So, why not?
00:01:51.440 Because y'all season ended, what, like two or three weeks ago?
00:01:53.920 Ours was kind of like a month ago.
00:01:55.540 Was it?
00:01:56.100 Yeah.
00:01:56.240 I watched the final game.
00:01:57.140 yeah not not great wasn't our best yeah what's it like right when it ends like right when the
00:02:01.740 right when the season ends i mean because you guys were in a best of three with the aces yeah
00:02:05.760 you guys lost yeah so um it's like a i mean it sucks like i i hate to lose and so um i don't
00:02:14.560 know when you feel like you have the potential you have the potential of like your team like
00:02:18.180 you know what you're made of and you can do it but we just didn't get it done and so it sucks
00:02:22.360 but then like after a couple weeks it's like dang it's kind of nice to like relax and i don't know
00:02:27.120 get back home and get around your people so what did you think y'all were missing like did it come
00:02:31.700 to our shots duh oh you're so right dude like that's a big problem you didn't take that many
00:02:40.380 shots in the last no it's okay maybe next year like what do you want me to say i don't know
00:02:46.100 no i first game we got blown out so not great um had a pretty good game individually but
00:02:53.120 you know that doesn't matter um second game we won nice at home and then went back out to vegas
00:02:58.760 uh great environment i'll give him that but some tough calls we didn't make our shots um just
00:03:04.540 didn't play great yeah so it just felt kind of yeah yeah it was kind of a it wasn't fun to watch
00:03:10.000 you know that's probably my favorite team i think so us or vegas y'all's team oh yeah i was like
00:03:16.720 which one yeah well no you did come to a regular season game oh yeah we can i've come let me see
00:03:22.560 i think i've been like the past two seasons i've been to a game yeah we went with um
00:03:26.960 patrick and connor yeah he was in town yeah he's playing in like poland now or something
00:03:31.160 um but yeah it was a good time i love it over there i love i mean i love watching the team
00:03:35.420 it's a good time but like i guess when i'm sitting there as a as a fan when i'm watching a game
00:03:39.340 there's so many other things that i'm wondering if they're going on on the court right like is
00:03:43.560 there because a lot of times y'all sport is one of the few sports where you can see where you know
00:03:47.740 some of the people been dating or been in love or studding around or whatever
00:03:52.300 it's called or being buddies or whatever.
00:03:56.300 You know, 0.99
00:03:56.940 so you're always wondering like how much like of that sort of like lesbian 0.99
00:04:01.220 espionage is going on out there,
00:04:03.280 you know?
00:04:03.820 I mean,
00:04:04.120 that's a valid point and like teach their own.
00:04:06.160 Like I love our league is fun. 0.84
00:04:07.680 It truly isn't like the girls are great.
00:04:09.600 I do feel like sometimes there's like a lot of tea and drama going on,
00:04:13.500 but like for us,
00:04:14.740 that kind of makes it better.
00:04:15.520 Cause like,
00:04:15.860 you know what's going on.
00:04:16.800 I don't know if the fans do.
00:04:17.740 i think like the hardcore fans do but at the end of the day like when it's time to play people like
00:04:22.220 forget about that like we're professional basketball players you show up you do your job
00:04:25.640 i'm sure the guys have drama with the same girls that they're messing with like it's the same thing
00:04:29.660 but ours is just either teammates with the person they're messing with or right going against so
00:04:34.700 i can see where from the outside it could be weird but like i don't know i think i'm just
00:04:39.500 like used to it right yeah i guess as a fan you just wonder man is this like if they're two exes
00:04:44.400 and they're right there they're playing against each other or now they're on the same team or
00:04:47.540 Sometimes it seems like they're trading people
00:04:49.140 to other teams that are like now lovers or whatever.
00:04:51.300 You're like, what is even going on?
00:04:52.360 Oh, there is a web.
00:04:53.360 There's a web, but it's like fascinating.
00:04:54.940 I'm on the outside of that web.
00:04:56.800 So like, I just kind of sit back and eat my popcorn
00:04:59.200 and watch it all in bold and it's entertaining.
00:05:02.240 It's fun. 0.94
00:05:02.700 Is there like, is there like a lesbian mafia in the league?
00:05:05.960 Like, is there, is there any like animosity
00:05:08.560 if people are between, if somebody is straight
00:05:11.320 or bi or gay, is there any animosity between those people? 0.70
00:05:14.120 Dude, honestly, I'm like strictly dickly. 0.73
00:05:16.000 So I have no idea.
00:05:16.860 like i don't know who the mafia and what does that mean wiener only or for wieners or whatever
00:05:20.440 no like guys only man yeah yeah just men yeah but like teach their own do go do what you want
00:05:26.500 like i don't yeah okay i don't give a dang if somebody's you know being like whatever they're
00:05:32.000 doing or whatever i don't care at all i could in fact if i did care it'd be crazy like if i went 0.94
00:05:40.120 home and i was like angry about it like why who gives a flying fuck like i don't you even imagine 0.97
00:05:45.760 if i was just drawing pictures if i was ordering like lesbian voodoo dolls or something like that 0.98
00:05:51.100 would be the most obscene thing i could ever even fathom um but yeah i guess i just wonder how much
00:05:56.900 like as somebody watching the game you just wonder oh how much extra lore is going on out there and
00:06:01.580 are people using that like like is somebody ever posting you up and they're just like
00:06:05.600 they're flirting at the same time you know no like i no no okay that's what i wonder i think
00:06:13.920 is going on sometimes it feels like somebody's like you know but i again i don't know like i'm
00:06:18.880 not oh right i'm not in it but like you know your teammates and like people that they've kind of
00:06:23.280 been with or have not been with you know the team what's going on right so like when you're playing 0.95
00:06:28.160 those people it's not like you're focused on that you're literally trying to fucking win a game you 0.68
00:06:32.820 know like that's just like not even in and somebody's like hey pass a note to that other 0.85
00:06:36.340 girl or whatever no okay when you've been to a game when would we have time to do that i don't
00:06:42.540 know exactly okay that's a good point yeah yeah i don't know it just seems like there's so you 0.97
00:06:50.100 guys's league always it seems like has the wildest shit like when people were throwing those wieners 0.97
00:06:53.660 on the court and all that well yeah i got hit by one of them no way yeah in la yeah yeah hit me in 0.99
00:06:59.600 the left foot did it did anybody take one home or was that like taboo or whatever
00:07:03.640 do you know about it no i don't taking that home i low-key kind of wanted to take it home though
00:07:10.500 just to be like i was probably the first person to get hit by a dildo while playing a in a wmba game
00:07:15.440 yeah or in a sport at all look that up actually valid point okay so i was on the free throw line
00:07:21.940 here i bet somebody's hummed one at uh and it scared me at a ball boy wait hold on let me see 0.71
00:07:27.980 go ahead let's yeah let's play out that when that wiener hit her
00:07:30.900 sorry whatever you know i'm saying but let's play it out and where was this was in la so this is in 0.76
00:07:37.580 LA and like I think the clip kind of cut before but like we were on the free throw line she shot
00:07:41.680 it and I went to go like box her out okay and all of a sudden something like hit my foot
00:07:46.660 and I looked down and that's when I jumped because I like you're in a game like you're
00:07:50.280 trying to compete and win like we're down I'm focused on and slow it down so we can see that
00:07:55.280 like right you kind of get in the way but right there and there you go that's a wiener I actually 0.92
00:08:03.520 got made fun of in the locker room because they're like have you never seen a dildo before and I was 0.84
00:08:07.160 Like, dude, I'm playing a basketball game.
00:08:08.620 I wasn't expecting one to be thrown at me.
00:08:10.300 So it was fun.
00:08:11.800 And did they find out who threw it even?
00:08:14.000 Oh yeah, they have cameras like everywhere in those arenas.
00:08:16.220 So they like narrow it down to the person
00:08:17.860 and they get like banned for life.
00:08:20.380 But if you really think about this,
00:08:22.500 if you got hit by one and like it didn't hit your foot
00:08:26.400 and legit like hit your face or something,
00:08:28.020 that could hurt from that far.
00:08:30.440 And if it had batteries in it or whatever.
00:08:33.080 Or if it was weighted or whatever.
00:08:34.760 That's what I'm saying.
00:08:35.600 I could have broke my schnoz. 1.00
00:08:37.460 Oh, if somebody would have fucking homed a woman. 1.00
00:08:40.180 Dude, think about that though. 1.00
00:08:41.640 I've already thought about it.
00:08:42.800 Because I was like, that year, that was last year.
00:08:45.100 I was like, someone's going to get hit. 0.98
00:08:47.080 Like someone's legit going to get hit in the face by a dildo. 0.98
00:08:49.560 And then you know that's going to be all over the internet. 0.98
00:08:51.760 Yeah.
00:08:52.160 So I was just hoping it wasn't me.
00:08:53.780 I don't know.
00:08:54.660 Yeah.
00:08:57.500 Anyway, Sophie Cunningham, good to see you.
00:09:00.140 Nice seeing you.
00:09:01.820 So you're from Missouri, right?
00:09:03.180 That's where you grew up.
00:09:03.860 Mm-hmm.
00:09:04.200 And were your parents athletes or what was their?
00:09:06.900 Yeah.
00:09:07.320 Our whole like family played sports, actually the university of Missouri.
00:09:10.180 So like grandpa, aunts, uncles, mom, dad, cousin, sister,
00:09:14.540 like it was in the bloodline to go there.
00:09:16.380 So was it just one sport?
00:09:17.780 Was it all hoops or was it like our whole family?
00:09:19.980 Yeah.
00:09:20.760 The men were pretty much football.
00:09:22.460 And then like all the women were basketball and track and field,
00:09:25.980 more of the field portion than the track, but still successful.
00:09:29.860 What does the field mean?
00:09:30.660 Like shot put or whatever?
00:09:31.520 Like shot put javelin throwing those events.
00:09:34.740 Oh, yeah.
00:09:35.340 Yeah.
00:09:36.120 I never, I don't know if I ever really even seen that that much.
00:09:39.760 You don't see like, I don't know.
00:09:41.740 Did you play sports?
00:09:42.640 I play basketball.
00:09:44.320 Bring it up.
00:09:45.180 Oh, God.
00:09:46.140 Why did I ask?
00:09:48.320 I know.
00:09:49.160 It's not even worth talking to me.
00:09:50.740 But we'll keep this going for another few years.
00:09:55.360 We got one good pick, Destiny, right there.
00:09:58.480 Bottom left.
00:09:59.360 i don't know why i was looking at top right like that is not you
00:10:04.080 but uh also some of these pictures i mean some of these people look like they like
00:10:11.820 this looks like it's from like the 1800s bro what filter is this
00:10:17.660 whoever uploaded that is a messed up person did they not have like
00:10:22.280 pick like colored pictures yeah well obviously they did where look at six of my teammates no
00:10:31.220 no like like colored pictures like like when you take a picture
00:10:37.060 but we had color photography dude yeah that's what i was getting yeah but we just didn't i think
00:10:43.320 they didn't pay for it in our town and so this is what we got but yeah bro i was i was pretty good
00:10:48.600 actually but i don't still know i like to smoke and stuff i was enjoying i liked i was a childhood
00:10:54.260 smoker or whatever and that was something that i also enjoyed like cigs or blunt cigarettes
00:10:59.660 oh and so the coaches kind of frowned on that well were you like 13 yeah but they didn't want
00:11:06.280 you smoking after practice or whatever it was like it gives a team a bad name it gives a town
00:11:10.420 a bad name so we had differences of opinion on that are there any um so did you quit the team
00:11:15.740 or quit the cigs i quit the team but i'm fine okay yeah that's i don't know i would i think
00:11:27.440 i always seem to see those people that have like that whole that the trach thing oh freaks me out
00:11:31.920 like on the commercials and stuff and they'll still smoke some of them i know they'll just put
00:11:36.260 that they'll put like um bring up that people who still smoke with the tracheotomy and that's
00:11:42.620 probably and you could put indiana after it if you want we know where it happens no this is
00:11:49.900 diagrams bro do not take me to eighth grade put me in the real i want to see boots on the ground
00:11:54.940 okay i want to see boots on the ground there we go and is she oh oh the the trach has a hole for
00:12:04.440 the cigarette yeah there's people that will smoke right through that trach hole oh i have never seen
00:12:10.020 that yeah that was a big thing when people were trach smoking for a while um i don't think that 0.75
00:12:14.260 was a thing yeah all right got a weird gink going on over there what's going on you guys are the 0.81
00:12:20.940 ones fucking throwing wieners at each other we were not the random fans they weren't even our 0.94
00:12:28.200 fans you know is this oh this is just somebody trying to oh he does oh ew that just grosses me 1.00
00:12:36.940 Yeah.
00:12:37.780 What?
00:12:38.600 That like is,
00:12:41.120 you like that?
00:12:42.000 I can't even look at that again.
00:12:43.180 What do you mean like it?
00:12:44.020 Like you have a hole in your throat for a reason
00:12:46.500 and that's what you're doing?
00:12:47.900 No, look, I'm not saying I support it.
00:12:49.700 Oh no, I can't watch it again.
00:12:51.220 I think it's very, I'll say this,
00:12:52.980 it's cultural appropriative of Native Americans. 0.97
00:12:55.380 Play it again. 0.90
00:12:56.620 Yeah, these are white folks. 0.97
00:12:58.240 I know, but that guy's using smoke signals to order. 0.92
00:13:00.260 Oh, oh.
00:13:02.420 What else can you put in there?
00:13:05.140 Not in a weird way, like.
00:13:06.880 Can people eat through that?
00:13:08.700 Yeah, you could probably use berries or something.
00:13:11.000 Maybe pecans or something.
00:13:12.480 If you put a blueberry and it got stuck in the water,
00:13:15.100 are you choked?
00:13:16.840 That's horrible. 0.97
00:13:18.040 Dude, the most horrible thing is when you freaking,
00:13:21.080 you take a sip of water and it goes down,
00:13:23.460 people are like, it goes down the wrong pipe.
00:13:25.020 Suddenly they're a plumber or whatever.
00:13:27.260 And then you're just like-
00:13:28.860 You can't breathe.
00:13:29.860 It's funny, but you're dying.
00:13:31.720 But you try to pretend like you're fine.
00:13:33.340 And you know you have to be like,
00:13:36.180 Do you know what I'm talking about or not?
00:13:38.800 Yeah, because you're like trying to not cough or like do it politely.
00:13:41.540 Yeah.
00:13:41.780 Is there a term for that?
00:13:42.600 There's got to be a term for that because people suffer from it all the time.
00:13:46.200 Anyway, let's get into this episode.
00:13:47.840 Sophie Cunningham.
00:13:49.720 This is just how it is today, Sophie.
00:13:51.940 Did your, was there a lot of expectations on you to play sports when you were a kid
00:13:55.740 or just something you wanted to do?
00:13:56.940 No.
00:13:57.240 Like if your family does it that much, would it be weird if you were like a gamer
00:14:01.320 or if you were like, um, you know, if you were doing something that wasn't like if you weren't
00:14:07.260 an athlete, there you go. Um, no, like we have, I mean, I feel like everyone in our family actually
00:14:13.820 did play sports at least like, look, have some support. Okay. If I can, if every time you guys
00:14:20.120 went up for a layup and you smoked it and we smoked it at our little pipe hole. Yeah. Just
00:14:25.780 support me when I can't get through a sentence. Okay. Every time you guys went for a layup and
00:14:30.520 it didn't i still sat there you're right okay how many layups were missed in the w last year
00:14:36.180 let's bring that up a lot oh my god i i will say i mean our our my family and friend group say the
00:14:42.760 same thing they're like how the hell does a league that is like the pro you know like and and we have
00:14:48.660 some phenomenal athletes like we're we could kill people right like we're good at it yeah but we do
00:14:53.040 smoke a lot of layups yeah yeah i don't know what it is sometimes it just happens it could be nerves
00:14:58.940 it could be no not my teammates the wmba does not officially track or publish an aggregate
00:15:04.980 league-wide total for missed layups official league statistics track overall missed field
00:15:09.360 goals that's not really fair no field goals doesn't count because like kelsey shoots the
00:15:14.840 shit out of like the three-point line right three ball same as caitlin yeah yeah so that
00:15:20.980 doesn't really track then um looks like we make all our layups yeah no stat doesn't count 0.99
00:15:28.020 did you uh did you were you one of those kids that got into basketball early because they got
00:15:33.620 tall great question actually um thanks no yeah because that's a valid question a lot of kids do
00:15:40.140 that right like oh you're tall go oh go play basketball or you know do anything yeah once
00:15:45.240 somebody gets tall they have to be the model or play basketball no just gonna be a normal human
00:15:50.240 but um you're like okay and i'm tall yeah i was about to say something glad i didn't um
00:15:56.960 no really that doesn't seem like you yeah i know look at me having restraint so um we grew up
00:16:03.680 playing everything and when i say we it's like me and my sister we best friends and so we did
00:16:07.500 every sport together and i knew from like a young age you know how like kids who are doctors they
00:16:13.400 like were naturally really good at school from a really young age like same with like a lot of
00:16:17.420 musicians and singers like you're just having natural talent yeah that's how i was with sports
00:16:21.880 and so i knew from a young age like i was going to be a pro athlete one way or another i didn't
00:16:25.940 know if it was going to be basketball volleyball or soccer like those are my three um and like i
00:16:31.120 just naturally loved basketball more so i knew like and when i say young i'm talking about like
00:16:35.740 three four five years old like i just knew that like so young well i wasn't like how do you know
00:16:41.820 do you have a diary or something no no i just like that's always been my mindset like i was just good
00:16:46.400 at it and like i had so much fun doing it i loved it so i was just like this is where i belong yeah
00:16:52.160 yeah and that's your sister right there yeah that's lindsey she's the best like she's the
00:16:56.620 the best sister out of all of us is she a better person than you you think probably 100 yeah and
00:17:02.720 anyone who like knows us would say the same thing that's fair yeah yeah my brother's the same way
00:17:07.660 older or younger he's older than me he's just better than me but i'll catch up um oh that's
00:17:13.940 nice and is lindsey hoop still should we played at mizzou together all did yeah it's fun no way
00:17:19.440 we had two years together so much fun oh glory days you guys really have to bring that up
00:17:23.700 we can sub it in with a different picture yeah that'd be great but we won't look i'll tell you
00:17:29.060 there's a lot of dudes would throw a wiener at that one okay honestly i don't even care because
00:17:33.240 like nowadays people in college are like doing pilates and drinking green juice and like and
00:17:39.740 And, like, back then, Mizzou was making us eat and lift, like, football players.
00:17:44.700 Really?
00:17:45.080 So, when I, like, look back, I'm like, honestly, not mad about it because I was doing what I was supposed to.
00:17:49.820 Oh, it sounds like you have some aggression towards them.
00:17:52.960 No.
00:17:53.800 No, I'm just kidding.
00:17:55.000 No, I just feel like that's, like, what was the.
00:17:57.500 Were any, did y'all have any smokers on the team?
00:18:00.360 No.
00:18:01.940 Like, cigs?
00:18:02.680 Yeah.
00:18:03.080 Like, maybe a drunk cig here and there.
00:18:04.900 Yeah.
00:18:05.100 And that was me.
00:18:08.620 But, you know.
00:18:09.320 uh everyone else know like everyone you're like i don't think we had any i don't think we had any
00:18:15.040 smokers on the team you're the smoker no i no i'm not actually a smoker but i will have a good
00:18:21.240 drunk sig i love them did you smoke a lot of weed growing up or not no like i'm really not i don't
00:18:27.160 know why i think my family just beat it like drugs are bad and i know like weed people are like it's
00:18:32.960 not a drug what like whatever growing up we considered it a drug um but i like we've i mean
00:18:39.460 we drink but that was kind of hard we did it like we we did alcohol that's what i was about to say
00:18:46.720 we drank alcohol but we didn't we didn't get into drugs yeah which i'm not mad about like i'm so
00:18:52.120 glad they beat that into us yeah don't feel bad about yourself because you didn't do drugs like
00:18:56.780 i'm sophie that's crazy no i don't feel bad like i'm proud that i don't i'm not a druggie okay
00:19:02.100 Yeah.
00:19:02.380 Good.
00:19:02.840 Like, I think that's a good thing.
00:19:04.160 It is kind of weird though.
00:19:04.920 You'll meet people now and they're like, yeah, man, I'm sorry.
00:19:06.860 I never did any drugs or whatever.
00:19:08.520 But that's kind of sad, isn't it?
00:19:09.820 It's so sad.
00:19:10.540 Like, that's a good thing.
00:19:11.900 Yeah.
00:19:12.320 Yeah.
00:19:12.920 Yeah.
00:19:13.880 Yeah.
00:19:15.580 Yeah.
00:19:16.300 Okay.
00:19:16.820 Yeah.
00:19:17.220 So, yeah.
00:19:18.100 All right.
00:19:19.320 Moving on.
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00:22:15.520 when you first started playing ball,
00:22:18.240 you played for the Phoenix Mercury.
00:22:19.980 Yeah?
00:22:20.560 Yeah.
00:22:20.860 I saw y'all at the airport one time.
00:22:22.400 Really?
00:22:22.840 Yeah.
00:22:23.400 Ew, isn't that weird that we weren't traveling,
00:22:24.940 like, we were traveling with kind of like fans in the public.
00:22:28.000 We didn't have private flights.
00:22:29.700 Y'all don't have any fans either, to be honest.
00:22:32.600 I mean- 0.99
00:22:32.820 That one really just bit me in the ass. 0.99
00:22:34.380 Sorry, sorry. 1.00
00:22:35.320 Yep.
00:22:36.020 Maybe that was kind of rude.
00:22:37.220 No, it's not.
00:22:38.120 I do not.
00:22:38.700 I literally don't care.
00:22:39.540 Well, was there a fan?
00:22:40.440 Was there more?
00:22:41.060 I mean, there's more fans now.
00:22:42.380 Well, yeah.
00:22:42.880 Like, there's definitely no way we could do it now.
00:22:45.040 but i think you have a good point and that was that was rude actually i'm joking that was just
00:22:49.500 me joking dude i don't like i i care though okay but i don't okay and like here's my thing is hold
00:22:54.240 on i need you to care a little i'm sorry sorry sorry somebody has to apologize and it's gonna
00:22:58.760 be me i'm sorry thanks but i will say from like your point of view on that we weren't on tv like
00:23:05.100 how were people gonna know who we were like that's not anyone's fault it's not your fault it's not
00:23:09.140 our fault yeah people some people how did you know who we were then because i saw some of y'all's
00:23:13.760 gear and i i know that um tarasi was playing with you guys so i saw her yeah that was a that was a
00:23:20.740 main one that i saw and i saw um and i saw you i remember and i saw um well we had we had uh you
00:23:27.740 probably know bg britney griner and y'all had britney griner too yeah and diana those are like
00:23:32.300 the two stars right and so i kind of was like milling around it was like baggage claim and i
00:23:36.180 was like milling around anyway i actually almost came up to get a photo uh but i think i was like
00:23:42.500 what am i doing now i'm just standing around and somebody had children one of the women had
00:23:47.320 children that were their wife and children were them i think it was probably diana yeah yeah it
00:23:52.060 might have been um but how much has the league changed from whenever you got into where it's
00:23:56.180 at now dude night and day is it really yeah you can't even compare the two and so it's incomparable
00:24:01.280 i mean i think the talent you can because like the talent has always been there like there has been
00:24:06.140 some phenomenal, phenomenal people go through the WNBA, but we just didn't have the, um, the
00:24:13.120 platform that we do now. Like we didn't have the TV deals. We didn't have, we, we just weren't
00:24:16.840 exposed. Like people couldn't watch games. I remember like my first three or four years,
00:24:20.820 like my parents had to like download some weird app. And like, even then it was like a black 1.00
00:24:25.220 screen the entire time. Like it was just, you could not watch games. And so, um, I definitely
00:24:30.280 think like the last, I don't know, three, four, three years, pretty much that, you know, that
00:24:36.240 class of Caitlin, Cameron Brink, Haley Van Lith, um, angel, like that class, they just had the
00:24:42.140 platform. They had the eyes, they had the audience from college. Um, and they brought it into the W
00:24:46.160 and now it's just exploded. Like, and people love us. Like if you put it on, if you put really any
00:24:50.300 women's sports on TV, people are going to fall in love with it. And my biggest thing that I love
00:24:54.000 about it is like little girls, they can find someone, our league is so diverse that they can
00:24:59.900 find someone on tv that like looks like them or comes from where they come from and then we're
00:25:04.480 inspiring them to be the next us someday and so i think that's the coolest part about having this
00:25:09.300 platform is like it's accessible and people can watch it and you inspire the the youth so i love
00:25:14.060 that yeah oh it's crazy to think that you that your parents had to do that like how do we watch
00:25:18.600 it like we have to go under a bridge like we have to meet somebody or something like we have to like
00:25:22.620 that's unbelievable i mean i'm like not i'm happy of where we're at now but i also like
00:25:27.800 love those times too because I'm like in the perfect spot of uh I saw where the W was at
00:25:33.400 but I'm also like reaping the benefits of the people who came before me even of like leading
00:25:38.360 us to where we're at now and so I didn't get all this right away and so I had a I saw kind of the
00:25:43.580 bad parts of it if that makes sense but now I'm reaping the good parts of being in the WNBA
00:25:47.660 does that make any sense um yeah I think it has it makes sense in the way that it feels like you
00:25:51.680 were there like um it almost feels a little bit more like you at least were there in some of the
00:25:55.940 years where it was tougher yes exactly because like some of these and it's not their fault just
00:25:59.720 like how old they are like they come in and they they they just think it's hype yes and they like
00:26:03.860 they don't they all they know is private flights all they know is the nicest hotels all they know
00:26:08.360 is like you have security my first five years we had zero security yeah and like there's a
00:26:13.620 oh i was loitering around y'all at the airport yeah stalker like where's our security and so
00:26:19.480 no like so there's the first thing a stalker says when he gets busted is like actually i was just
00:26:23.460 here doing security how do you know that huh i just there's different i've interviewed some of
00:26:29.440 these people um at home by myself so yeah um anyway what are we talking about dude somebody
00:26:38.280 help me out god what is wrong with me today uh so here's some information right here it says
00:26:44.500 regular season same method for both leagues play by play um oh wait that's damn near the same thing
00:26:50.860 wow so this says missed layups per team per game the nba don't mind don't mind how many games they
00:26:57.480 play compared to us okay hold on i just called this out sorry girls so per team in the nba the
00:27:04.500 men miss 7.6 layups per 40 minutes and the women miss 9.7 okay i'm just going to talk a little 0.69
00:27:10.660 shit yeah because i understand that we miss a lot of layups um we also can't really majority of us 0.94
00:27:16.900 can't dunk the ball and if i was a man and i was able to dunk i'd be dunking that thing every single 1.00
00:27:21.760 time yeah what are you even doing dude like you're that high up there like just fucking 0.99
00:27:26.620 fucking dunk it yeah what are you doing guy mister here's what you that should have an 1.00
00:27:32.880 asterisk by it that's like also these dudes are fucking pussies for not dunking the ball 0.99
00:27:38.100 i'm just making myself feel better okay no but you did a really good job of actually reframing that 0.99
00:27:42.100 and i'll say this um i think that's one thing that i can relate to about the wmba is
00:27:47.380 can't dunk right sometimes miss layups and um yeah and some and you're like i can't remember
00:27:57.020 what the third one is but anyway to covas guys when you're stuck in a shitty conversation
00:28:06.540 Just switch the subject altogether.
00:28:08.280 These nice boots will get you on your way.
00:28:11.480 You were saying that there was an incident when you guys didn't have security.
00:28:14.740 And it was like, so, yeah, tell me about a time when it was more hectic.
00:28:19.480 When we weren't secure.
00:28:20.560 Yeah.
00:28:21.060 When I was a little insecure.
00:28:23.120 Yeah, yeah.
00:28:23.800 When you didn't have a firewall.
00:28:25.120 Yeah, literally.
00:28:26.600 No, we were going through the airport.
00:28:28.660 And, you know, stuff had happened that year and whatnot. 1.00
00:28:31.680 not um but britney grinder gets like the worst rap she is like the coolest person you will ever 1.00
00:28:37.840 meet swear to god yes like you would you and her would be best friends she's down to earth she's 1.00
00:28:42.360 country like just chill super chill and um so i i want to shout that out before i even tell the
00:28:49.120 story okay yes she does get the rap or the energy you feel for some reason is different about her
00:28:54.320 yeah no she's the best and so something happened at the airport and we literally had zero security
00:28:59.000 and we got like swarmed and they were all kind of going like after her a little bit and so we all
00:29:04.120 kind of like was as players like put a circle around her and like there was one guy who I guess
00:29:10.540 he was kind of our security I don't I don't know and like he was carrying um her actually Louis
00:29:16.240 Vuitton bags okay that's no listen to this no listen to this this is funny hold on and I I was
00:29:23.980 like, I was the caboose and like, he saw what was happening. So he ran in to like push those
00:29:29.980 people away. But when he did it, he threw the bags that he came back and cracked me right in the
00:29:33.760 nose. And I was like, damn, I was like, I was trying to help, but I just get cracked by like 0.93
00:29:38.800 a $5,000 bag right in my schnoz black eye the next day. It was great. 0.98
00:29:43.440 People were like, all I'm saying is the WNBA is crazy. And we tried to talk to
00:29:47.980 Brittany Griner and some gay guy hit one of their own players. 0.95
00:29:50.460 No, he wasn't gay. 0.95
00:29:51.280 I know he wasn't, but he was also carrying a Louis Vuitton bag for a WNBA player.
00:29:56.740 So I'm just saying it comes across unique.
00:30:00.300 But anyway, so, but yeah, that's dangerous.
00:30:02.680 And you're the one that got, you were the victim.
00:30:04.660 Oh yeah, like I, yeah.
00:30:06.080 You were the victim.
00:30:06.860 I was the victim.
00:30:07.400 You end up in a lot of kind of spaces like that.
00:30:09.580 But I'm the victim?
00:30:10.620 Yeah.
00:30:11.280 Or like you just end up in the scuffle somehow.
00:30:13.880 Like I don't mean to.
00:30:14.500 I literally don't mean to.
00:30:15.680 Really?
00:30:16.080 I don't.
00:30:16.600 I mean, like, you're really telling me that I plan for someone to come.
00:30:20.480 like I was trying to get the caboose of her
00:30:22.800 so they didn't come behind
00:30:23.700 and all of a sudden someone comes and throws a bag
00:30:25.540 and I'm the one who has a broken schnaz.
00:30:28.220 It's your friend.
00:30:28.820 No, but I'm saying like the guy came up
00:30:30.520 and just threw the bag.
00:30:31.480 Like how was I going to know
00:30:32.480 that was going to hit me in the face?
00:30:33.700 You're right.
00:30:34.240 You know?
00:30:34.800 You're right about that.
00:30:37.440 I mean, like a smoke through my neck.
00:30:40.580 Can you see my napkins?
00:30:42.300 No.
00:30:42.920 Is napkins a euphemism for something?
00:30:45.080 That's all I'm asking.
00:30:45.420 No, no.
00:30:46.640 Oh, okay.
00:30:47.320 I didn't know what you were talking about.
00:30:48.100 He gave me napkins.
00:30:49.380 My bad.
00:30:49.760 i don't know if there's like yeah i just didn't know if there's like i just i didn't know yeah
00:30:55.480 i just didn't know if there's like a lot of like that's actually hilarious a lot yeah i don't know
00:30:59.120 if there's like a lot of sexual euphemisms out there or whatever never heard that one and some
00:31:03.140 lady's like hey yeah anyway moving on uh i can't see your napkins i haven't looked either i'm a
00:31:09.200 gentleman thank you thank you okay um how much did things change kind of when that class came in with
00:31:15.020 like um angel reese caitlin clark uh cameron brink um buchers was the year after her i think
00:31:21.960 but how much when this new energies come in like how much did things change and how and how quickly
00:31:27.200 do you notice it as a player yeah i think like night and day and immediately like you just have
00:31:32.760 now i will say like being drafted out to phoenix because i had diana taurasi who's the goat of our
00:31:38.440 game yeah because of bg like i our games were always sold out so like the sold out crowds were
00:31:43.840 nothing new to me now like being in indiana oh you guys were always sold out yeah like we are
00:31:50.140 i've been very blessed with where i've played truly because you would go like when i got drafted
00:31:55.880 indiana i think they only had like 200 fans like it was i mean it was nap town like people went
00:32:02.100 there to catch up on sleep you play a game and you wanted to get out but like now it's like the
00:32:06.640 place you want to play people that's like people's super bowl coming into game bridge arena like it's
00:32:11.280 I mean, you've been in it, the energy. Yeah. Like it's fun. And so now every arena is like
00:32:16.580 that. And so I think since that new class, um, you, you truly do, you have the, the private
00:32:21.900 flights, you have security. Um, I know some teams are still kind of working on making sure everyone
00:32:28.120 gets to a certain level, but I know that the fever are there. Like we're, we're at the highest
00:32:31.400 level you can get at. Right. And so operationally, yeah. Operationally, um, our security. And I know
00:32:37.080 like we keep saying that, but like, it's a huge, it's a big deal. Like the more, um, that people,
00:32:41.740 the more you're visible on TV, um, you're going to get more fans. Like people are going to know
00:32:45.880 who you are and that's a really great thing. But there's also a lot of like kind of crazy people 0.91
00:32:50.320 too, that like, we do have a lot of stalkers. I know I do. And like, that's the negative side 0.75
00:32:55.380 of things that people don't think about. Um, and so you, you do want to feel secure, but
00:32:59.700 have you received, like, have you had stalkers? Like, Oh my gosh. Yeah. Like I will have to
00:33:05.300 check if i'm even allowed to say this but like i like have i think 20 i think people kind of that
00:33:11.440 the fbi are watching for me me alone really what are some of his names i mean i don't know
00:33:17.000 i know yeah i i'm definitely not allowed to say that i know one of them you do yeah i mean he's
00:33:22.180 locked away now what they get locked him up because he was talking actually this is public
00:33:25.920 knowledge yeah his name's kevin and the worst part about that is like my i have a miniature 0.91
00:33:30.900 a donkey named kevin and now i'm like well shit do i need to rename kevin oh sometimes when he 0.53
00:33:35.520 looks at you too and i wonder if he's an if he's working for that guy somehow if he could be 0.98
00:33:40.680 channeling visual like you you don't think that's possible i mean i don't know shit i don't know 0.99
00:33:47.140 but no yeah you're right yeah you're stupid this was about two hours ago um judge denies bail 1.00
00:33:53.860 reduction for sophie cunningham's alleged stalker the man accused of stalking indiana fever guard 1.00
00:33:57.700 sophie cunningham that's you was denied a bail reduction at marion county superior court hearing
00:34:02.220 october 23rd nice good work judge good job thanks for clapping everybody uh make me feel good so
00:34:11.920 that's got to be crazy then did you have stalkers before no why would i well i mean just if you're
00:34:17.700 you're still playing well yeah but but since it's gotten different yeah yeah yeah but i will say
00:34:22.600 like even just the i don't know the skill level of our game is always getting better the athleticism
00:34:27.680 of these young bucks are i mean so many people in our league can dunk now that's insane really
00:34:32.220 yeah and like the the younger classes even who are like in high school and college like
00:34:36.160 people are just getting more and more athletic so i'm just like rattle off so you guys have the
00:34:40.860 one i know you have one girl on your team that can dunk yeah kk definitely can she hasn't done 0.87
00:34:45.000 in a game we have another girl named shelly she's like a player development player um she can dunk
00:34:49.640 yeah but like i went i went up to kk one time i had to start walking in the casino she's the best
00:34:54.300 I was like, you play for the Indiana Fever, don't you?
00:34:56.280 She's like, yeah.
00:34:57.100 She is the best.
00:34:58.380 She's chill.
00:34:59.000 That's cool.
00:34:59.500 Yeah.
00:34:59.820 I was kind of excited.
00:35:01.000 Aaliyah Boston's probably my favorite player.
00:35:02.600 Really?
00:35:03.180 Yeah, I think so.
00:35:04.080 That's ballsy of me sitting right here.
00:35:07.000 But you're also a good player.
00:35:09.980 Thanks.
00:35:10.940 Thanks.
00:35:11.460 No, I mean.
00:35:12.200 I'm literally kidding.
00:35:12.900 I mean, yeah, I'm a Fever fan.
00:35:15.680 Dude, I'm kidding.
00:35:16.100 Right?
00:35:16.360 No, I love being a Fever fan, dude.
00:35:17.840 It's been good.
00:35:19.460 No, but Aaliyah Boston just got, just watching her get better so much.
00:35:22.760 It's like amazing.
00:35:23.940 Oh, I was mean.
00:35:24.940 I thought it was like 200.
00:35:26.400 It was actually 6,000.
00:35:28.200 Yeah, actually, you know what?
00:35:28.920 Here's a stat right here.
00:35:29.520 It says here are the Fevers regular season home game averages, average per home game.
00:35:35.460 Oh, in 2018, the average was 6,300.
00:35:38.560 And then in 2026, the average is 16.
00:35:41.020 Look at 2022, though.
00:35:42.320 Like, that's the one I remember.
00:35:43.940 In 2022, the average was 1,700 fans.
00:35:47.440 We were also in like a Coliseum that they do the state fair at.
00:35:51.600 But even then.
00:35:52.280 still that was covid times though was it still i mean it was like coming back from covid either
00:35:57.640 way it's yeah that was a rough i love how people just use that term like people today also like
00:36:01.720 well covid i'm like yeah they're like my husband left or whatever like yeah he uh i got covid i've
00:36:07.960 never heard that one but people were using it for everything yeah i got busted for pedophilia but
00:36:16.600 it's covid times you know you're like that's that doesn't matter you know what i'm saying like
00:36:21.160 that's still a crime okay still a bad deal buddy um oh have uh have the halftime shows gotten
00:36:32.480 better like as well with success like what were some of the early halftime shows uh well i mean
00:36:39.140 i was in the locker room so i don't necessarily know hey can you wait i'm gonna go check out what
00:36:44.520 the halftime shows are like i don't know like well what i really want to know is how did you end up
00:36:48.220 with a miniature pony that's what i want to know i don't know where was that was it in indy no you
00:36:53.040 said you had a small horse that's all i'm saying oh i mean we i mean we have like horses donkeys
00:36:57.940 mules and like we just thought a miniature one would be kind of fun oh i see what you're saying
00:37:01.780 it's not something you have in the house no that'd be gross would it i have no idea i mean do you want 0.97
00:37:08.160 horse shit stepping out of the shower no i didn't know if people have those i don't know if they put 0.98
00:37:12.980 diapers on them i don't know what that's like i mean you do see that like on i guess social media 0.99
00:37:17.760 of like the pigs and like the, I guess there are like goats and stuff that are, I don't know. 1.00
00:37:21.860 Oh dude, some fricking lady had a kangaroo on an airplane and had a diaper on it. Bring it up. 1.00
00:37:28.380 Bring up that rue they found on that plane. Oh, you weren't on it. No, it was diapered though.
00:37:33.620 Wait, but if you were on it, then what? Then I would have like, I don't know. I probably
00:37:37.980 would have rung that buzzer, you know? Dude, when they hear that buzzer, they get so pissed.
00:37:43.040 Here you go. Look at this. What? Yeah. An emotional support kangaroo.
00:37:47.760 I think they did ban him.
00:37:50.140 I mean, it's kind of cute.
00:37:51.480 No, I know it's cute, but look at him. 1.00
00:37:53.260 First of all, he's mixed. 0.98
00:37:54.900 But second of all, look at this, bro. 1.00
00:37:58.280 I mean, it's just like, what world are we living in?
00:38:01.600 Is it strapped in?
00:38:03.000 Huh?
00:38:03.620 Like, is it belted in?
00:38:04.860 He's carrying his own ticket.
00:38:07.020 How are you missing the obvious things?
00:38:09.460 You can't even-
00:38:09.780 I just-
00:38:11.280 Just give him some credit, Sophie.
00:38:13.320 Dude, I didn't even notice he was holding his own ticket.
00:38:16.180 he knows cpr the craziest thing is those animals know cpr actually a kangaroo would be good at
00:38:22.640 cpr they're very powerful uh hind end or they if they use their if they were able to use their
00:38:28.020 legs and stuff to push forward i think kangaroos get their power from their tail well dude if that 0.97
00:38:35.280 thing beat the fucking air back into my lungs that'd be sick you just and then they come back 0.97
00:38:42.720 drew drewski and i were talking about getting a wm oh there he is right there in that one 0.98
00:38:48.040 oh my god all i'm gonna say is that one's from sacramento if you know you know um what were you
00:38:54.880 about so you and drewski were about to what oh me and drewski thought about starting uh we were we
00:38:59.120 talked about starting a wmba team we're trying to um in nashville yeah or try to get one somewhere
00:39:05.000 do it there's all probably not um no we thought about doing it but we couldn't we're trying to
00:39:11.080 think of like a good team name one that's real you know this should be good yeah we didn't know
00:39:15.260 what to do the studs maybe we're thinking or the nashville licks maybe like a like a guitar lick
00:39:20.580 you think it'd be viable or not or is that too you think it's too crazy or whatever or do you
00:39:28.240 think i think it'll be good i mean i mean yeah we were talking about trying to trying to maybe
00:39:32.440 be a part of a team somehow it'd be pretty cool i think you know i think you guys would thrive
00:39:37.100 You do?
00:39:37.560 Yeah.
00:39:37.980 I mean, already the team name, I think that is like a marketing genius idea.
00:39:42.680 Do you think people would come and play for it?
00:39:44.320 I mean, yeah.
00:39:44.920 I mean, the shoe fits, right?
00:39:46.840 You're right about that.
00:39:47.780 If the Timbaland fits, you know?
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00:41:08.480 That's shopify.com slash Theo. You've kind of been outspoken about like things, the way that
00:41:15.840 the league is kind of run and like you guys as chairman or whatever, or chairwoman, what's her
00:41:19.220 name? The commissioner. The commissioner. Yeah. Kathy. Kathy. Yeah. Are there things that you
00:41:23.640 would do or the things that you think would be better to like that you can talk about that you
00:41:28.000 think would be better to help the league i mean i think first of all that is a very hard position
00:41:32.840 to be in and like give her a little bit of credit when she started the league is not what it was
00:41:39.500 now and so we're we're in the process of getting a new commissioner i don't know if you know that
00:41:44.640 oh i didn't know that yeah so she this is her last i guess kind of like a couple weeks i don't
00:41:49.780 i don't know when when she's stepping down so we'll see here honestly i have no idea oh december
00:41:56.340 she's retiring i mean if that's one way to put it um i would say i think retiring by force they
00:42:04.700 call it sometimes yeah i think that's more like it um i think adam silver does a phenomenal job
00:42:10.240 of having a relationship with his nba players um and so i just think that's what we need on the w
00:42:16.660 side, like where we're at as a league, like we need someone to come in here who has a
00:42:21.040 backbone, um, who's going to stick to, you know, what they do, um, and hold the standard,
00:42:26.420 but also like, we do have a lot of people who come from a lot of different backgrounds.
00:42:30.400 Um, it's a very diverse, diverse league, which I think is awesome, but you also need someone
00:42:34.220 who, uh, has a common goal, like a goal and bringing everyone together to like, try to
00:42:40.060 get that goal.
00:42:40.800 And so, um, I think it needs to be a player and owners league first.
00:42:46.140 and so like that's like having a relationship like you don't have a boss you are the boss
00:42:49.800 but say you had a boss god is my real boss there you go i like that well it's like honestly him
00:42:56.540 walking in here and him not even saying hi to you and so like it's like no like yeah we're in the
00:43:01.660 yeah like say hi be human be nice and i think that's all we're really asking for is a little
00:43:05.420 bit of respect and just like be a normal human like we're all trying to work for the same goal
00:43:09.340 we all want to make the wmba the best it can be right so i think in order to do that you need
00:43:13.560 great communication. You need to be open. You need to have our backs. Um, you need to have the
00:43:17.240 owner's backs. We're not always going to get along. We're not always going to agree. And
00:43:19.920 the majority of the time, we're not going to get what we want as players. Uh, but just having that
00:43:23.760 open line of communication and respect, I think is huge. And I think we deserve that. Yeah. Yeah.
00:43:28.460 So you think that there's more potential for that forthcoming? A hundred percent. Like there has to
00:43:32.960 be, there has to be. And I think she, she did a lot of good things, but again, like you've got to
00:43:37.700 be willing to have a growth mindset. You have to be willing to grow and, um, want to grow our league,
00:43:41.940 want this to be the best league and have this be the standard of all female sports leagues, right? 1.00
00:43:46.560 And so in order to do that, you have to have someone who's, you know, willing to stick to 0.69
00:43:49.860 their guns a little bit, push the limits a little bit, but also like, I don't know,
00:43:53.660 be normal at the same time. Like, I don't think that's really that hard to do.
00:43:58.000 Do you think she was just too business focused or too, or just like?
00:44:01.000 Dude, I don't know. Like, I don't, I don't, I don't know her. Like I don't talk to,
00:44:04.220 she doesn't talk to any of us. So how would, how would we know?
00:44:06.700 Right. Here's Dan Patrick right here on WNBA commissioner, Kathy Engelbert,
00:44:11.120 canceling her appearance on the show if you want to be treated as a serious league this is what
00:44:15.700 happens these are tough questions but this is a fair should we just play it yeah okay this was
00:44:21.420 a couple weeks after this is when she stepped down it was like when there's a lot of pressure
00:44:25.860 on her but this is really funny yesterday we were hoping to do an interview with kathy engelbert
00:44:31.160 she's the wnba commissioner todd spoke to her a couple of nights ago and we had a pairings party
00:44:38.000 Todd went up to her she's been very friendly to the show last year at this event was friendly to
00:44:43.500 us and Todd said hey we'd love to have you on there's a lot of questions people have not heard
00:44:48.720 answers from the commissioner and she said yes so yesterday after the show we waited almost two
00:44:56.120 hours for her this was scheduled and she's 50 yards away she's getting practice shots out of
00:45:02.540 the bunker so that's what's disappointing we deserve more respect than what she gave us
00:45:08.720 yesterday we want to cover the wnba the pr staff somebody did a disservice to this
00:45:16.260 well i love how they picked somebody made she kind of seems she gives some biden energy too there
00:45:21.200 just disassists like there's a little biden energy for me and that
00:45:26.580 but he's saying they felt disrespected why he bailed on the last at the last second for the
00:45:32.340 the meeting so i see and they were looking forward to it well like here's our thing you need you need
00:45:36.560 you need a spokesperson well and also like we have been screaming from the rooftops since this
00:45:42.680 league started that like we want respect we want uh to be on mainstream tv we don't want to people
00:45:47.620 have to go to weird websites to watch us like yeah we have been asking for equality and now that we
00:45:52.760 have it like pressures are privileged like you got to step up to the plate and that doesn't mean it's
00:45:57.480 always going to be easy like that is a very tough job you're going to have to answer really tough
00:46:01.220 questions, you're going to have to, um, maybe not always know the answer, but it's okay to admit
00:46:05.240 when you don't know and say that that's why you have a whole staff around you. So you can be your
00:46:09.700 best self and lean on them. Like no one's great by themselves. That's why everyone has a village.
00:46:13.500 And so I just think we need someone representing the WNBA, um, who's, who's willing to do the hard,
00:46:20.000 who's embracing the hard. And also like, that's a really cool fricking job too. Like, I mean,
00:46:25.040 that's a bad-ass job. And so like, be proud of that. Want to be interviewed, want to promote
00:46:29.660 your product like i just don't understand that point of you're denying an interview but people
00:46:34.420 are wanting to talk to us finally so why are we denying it right i don't get that yeah maybe she's
00:46:39.860 shy you know what maybe she is we'll we'll give her that we'll give her a little bit of grace
00:46:46.740 she's shy the shy commissioner they'll call her yeah some people are shy but sometimes you can't
00:46:53.240 wait forever for them to figure it out also that's not the job if you're shy then yeah why did why
00:46:58.660 what she picked in the first place yeah do something different just work indoors or something
00:47:02.340 um or do something calmer work at like a trying to think of somewhere i would work if i was real
00:47:08.100 shy i guess maybe um library or movie work in the movie projector at a theater um toll booth but now
00:47:16.340 people get chatty with those people my buddy was trying to flirt with this toll booth lady for like
00:47:21.180 two years because every time he'd go by he'd get like one word into her you know and so finally he
00:47:27.000 got her number but it took like he would she would yell the number like each time he came through 0.92
00:47:30.520 dude he communicated with her for like two years and finally he kind of got her number and shit
00:47:35.560 and they went out one time no way yeah swear to god but it didn't it didn't work out but
00:47:39.920 because they only know how to say one word when they were on the date well he'd be going no he 0.99
00:47:44.520 going yeah oh yeah they're on the date they're like yeah yeah that'd be so stupid dude i gotta 0.97
00:47:53.000 get some help for myself but i'm gonna be fine uh were you the friend 0.81
00:47:57.260 no i don't know if i've ever been like somebody like that oh dude i'll tell you one time i left
00:48:05.040 i was at the bank and i've been trying to flirt with this teller right and so i finally get up
00:48:10.660 to courage and i'm like oh i'm gonna write her a note but then i'm at the bank writing a note
00:48:14.520 on a thing and then as i'm slipping it through the thing you can see her face like oh yeah i
00:48:19.420 think she thought it was going to be a crime oh oh because i was like putting a note through the
00:48:23.520 thing and um and she just kind of went like this so she might have been married or she might have
00:48:28.200 just like been like the alarms are gonna go off you know feel that weirdly i don't when's the last
00:48:34.400 time you've been to a bank to do that um this was probably three years ago really yeah oh wow well
00:48:40.180 i was living in la and it's i just like it was more fun to go on errands there because the weather
00:48:44.300 is always nice so it's just like you get out and it's so great i feel that actually you know it's
00:48:49.120 okay i'm gonna go to the bank yeah like get outside and actually do something yeah you're
00:48:52.960 like hey i'm at the bank who works at the bank dude when i was a kid if you went to the bank
00:48:56.920 bro they had like candy was good suckers yeah and they had that uh you remember that that thing
00:49:02.400 that would go up yeah yeah yeah well you could watch it you could watch your yeah yeah i like
00:49:07.740 and you'd be like oh that's our money yeah you know and then um in high school we would get
00:49:12.880 those things and we would like fill them with a we we'd like turn them in like first smoking dope
00:49:18.140 or whatever so you stole it well no we would use it in the car and then we would send it back into 0.97
00:49:23.240 the people oh and you have smoke in it yeah oh you shitheads or did they like it one or the other 0.98
00:49:29.800 they never complained about it i don't even know what we're talking about dude how do you think 0.97
00:49:36.960 how many points do you think oh god how many points do you think i could score in a wmba game
00:49:41.420 dude i all i've seen is a picture of you in when was that how old were you
00:49:49.660 all i know is you were ripping cigs and you chose cigs over basketball so honestly i'd say you
00:49:55.440 wouldn't score a point whoa sophie that's not even that fair is that too harsh i think i would score
00:50:01.360 eight points if you let me play for three quarters i'm gonna need a little bit of rest
00:50:06.980 like what did you what did you do like when you when you took a break from
00:50:13.220 cigs and you came back to the game were you like a point guard were you a shooter were you
00:50:19.040 smoking lays i was i was a power forward probably i was a slight forward something slight uh yeah
00:50:29.000 nothing i was good for left bench i was good i was good for six points i think
00:50:36.000 back then yeah but that's because i didn't give me a lot of playing time dude dude if you're not
00:50:42.380 getting playing time then they had racial they had a big racial you're not even that's all i'll say
00:50:46.940 there was a big racial barrier in our league okay and we were not getting a lot of playing time
00:50:53.340 um and that's when the yeah so i've had a different w that's kept me on the bench okay 0.99
00:51:00.480 dude you're an idiot i know but i'm good at it you are thank you you're pro at it um oh how much 0.98
00:51:09.620 um how how much of uh because for some reason you guys's league creates a lot like for some reason 1.00
00:51:15.540 there's like so much energy coming out of it do you feel like that yeah i do and maybe it's because
00:51:21.560 it's women and that's where like the world like the the that's like the creation of like life you 0.79
00:51:26.320 know so it's like that creates like a lot of like different energy but do you feel like the media 0.99
00:51:32.180 makes way more bullshit than dude yes like that is actually part of our problem is like the media 0.79
00:51:38.400 around the w and it's gross it really is because like you are stirring stuff up that doesn't even 0.99
00:51:42.840 exist and then like we all see it and it's like wait is there like no there's not and like a lot
00:51:47.900 of the beef in between players on social media like they don't even talk they've never even
00:51:52.240 really had a real relationship so like it's strictly media and honestly i just started a
00:51:57.760 podcast myself you did yeah it's called no hezi and i me and drew hanlon do it and it's like
00:52:02.660 strictly basketball and it's like where you can like all we do is actually talk about what real
00:52:08.520 and good basketball looks like and it's just an outlet for wmba nba because there's not on the
00:52:14.100 wmba side like all these people covering us i won't say all because i don't want to discredit
00:52:19.100 the people who do do a good job but like the majority they just want the clickbait like they
00:52:22.900 just want um the drama because that's where the intention pulls but like there's so much like so
00:52:28.560 many great things going on in our league that like that needs to be highlighted the people playing at
00:52:33.040 an elite elite level like why are we not highlighting highlighting and breaking down
00:52:36.440 those people's film like that makes no sense to me and so that's kind of why we started this
00:52:40.820 because i personally have seen the awesome things that you know social media can give you but i've
00:52:47.260 also seeing the real negative like bad stuff that it also brings and it's like okay it's never as
00:52:53.280 good as it seems it's never as bad as it seems so like why can't we just have like real basketball
00:52:58.280 journalism so that's what i'm here for nice well yeah i don't i just don't know if real journalism
00:53:03.660 even exists anymore i don't know well i would say like the nba and like i would say like nba nfl
00:53:09.200 mlb they don't have the the drama and like their people are actually covering stats in sports and
00:53:16.240 like good stories where ours, it's like barely any of the real basketball. Like it's all about,
00:53:22.220 and I think it's cool that people are wanting to know who we are and like, yes, write stories on
00:53:26.480 how we were raised and X, Y, and Z, but also like cover what we do for a living where we have this
00:53:32.400 platform for a reason. That's the only reason why you know us is because of basketball. So like
00:53:35.820 that should be the majority of it. And it's not. Yeah, I agree. And it's, I mean, I do think the
00:53:41.940 media creates they that that's part of it right it is they want to create they're doing their job
00:53:46.100 right right but that doesn't always mean like you can you can do your job it depends actually what
00:53:51.640 your end goal is like what's your intent are you just trying to be that's the drama and be a diva 0.96
00:53:55.480 and stir up shit or are you actually going to be like someone who is respectable and who does a 0.79
00:54:00.400 great job and people learn from you but also have fun while doing it like what's your end goal yeah 0.96
00:54:05.460 i don't know that's actually a really good answer by me that was good yeah thanks dude isn't it cool
00:54:10.520 when you have a good answer yeah it makes me feel good about myself dude when you get to the end of
00:54:13.920 a cool couple of sentences in a row nailed it yeah you're like yeah it's like that lady that
00:54:20.920 lands like after the flips whatever in the olympics or whatever gymnast yes yeah thanks yeah you're 0.79
00:54:26.920 like yeah i told you mom look at me now it's just a fucking three sentence thought yeah dude that 0.68
00:54:35.640 is pretty good though i like that um yeah what's one of the bigger things you feel like that the 0.92
00:54:40.080 media stirred up that um that maybe it wasn't even a thing i mean they're like i would say
00:54:47.060 90 90 of the drama that you hear about in the wba is made up drama like it's not i don't know like
00:54:57.700 you and another thing is like you go from i get this a lot and i and i've learned to be a pro to
00:55:03.320 like not judge people when you're competing against them all the time where it's like if
00:55:07.740 they were on my team i'd probably absolutely love them and so i i don't know it's it's us as the
00:55:13.480 women in the league to like you know you're going to compete you know you're not always going to
00:55:16.660 get along like why would you be best friends with i don't know people you're trying to not like 0.94
00:55:21.840 i don't know try to win against yeah and so if you're always competing and like never on their
00:55:27.620 side then you're probably going to create some rivalries you're going to create some tension
00:55:31.400 and i think that's natural that's what happens when you're a competitor when you're at the highest 0.98
00:55:34.480 level but also i think i don't know just like i don't know people just run with shit that is just 0.57
00:55:41.100 not i just don't get it like i'm like now i'm not gonna give you details details but like i'm 0.82
00:55:47.980 telling you 90 of wmba drama is made up shit okay yeah i think we really do have like a solid cool
00:55:55.500 league like i think when people get to know the women in our league like people like oh y'all are 0.92
00:55:59.560 y'all are great you guys are awesome it's like yeah like actually have a conversation with us
00:56:03.180 do which is what we're trying to do here yeah um okay sorry i don't know why something kind
00:56:08.260 of gruff but i was just practicing a new voice but sometimes it feels like the teams in the w
00:56:14.240 actually don't like each other as much which i kind of think is better because sometimes the
00:56:18.900 nba just feels like it almost like a lot of the nba just feels like everybody's just buddies now
00:56:23.040 yeah it's just a bunch of millionaire buddies so i think sometimes the thing that's interesting
00:56:28.340 about the w is that like you know like some of these women probably have a second job right you 0.61
00:56:35.840 know some of these women out here grinding and so they gotta beat the other team whereas a lot of
00:56:42.120 like i think some pro levels of sports yeah it starts to feel like oh these guys are all just
00:56:47.500 rich friends who were just like passing around a lot of the same women or whatever and not gonna 0.98
00:56:52.960 and just like getting a lot of the same wombs filled up type of energy baby mama shit or 0.66
00:56:58.440 whatever type shit but it's like uh y'all stuff feels like i don't know it just feels like okay 0.95
00:57:05.520 let's see what's popping out here no i think there's some like real truth to this i mean 0.52
00:57:09.800 there's definitely players that and here's a clip of you right now hugging a woman which first of
00:57:14.100 all just trying to show love but that's a little so you did not like that girl um no i don't have
00:57:22.780 a problem with her really let's watch this one more time why are you guys laughing i i really
00:57:28.460 don't no i'm not saying you do you want me to break it down yeah break it down i know you want
00:57:32.400 me to break it down so i will break it down so how many that was 15 seconds so the other like
00:57:40.940 38 minutes in that whole game i'm a queen for blaming who i'm about to blame 1.00
00:57:48.540 the refs our refs are horrible and so are they real refs like are they licensed or whatever i 1.00
00:57:55.580 mean yeah okay no one knows you know what actually i've never seen any of their license so i don't
00:58:04.080 know they keep showing up they have some type of credential i've never seen it they should have to
00:58:08.780 wear it around their neck or at least have a qr code on their chest or whatever yeah i mean i
00:58:12.180 think that's a great idea maybe we'll add that in um this game was just crazy like they were just
00:58:17.800 getting away with stuff that should not like if that was any of us they would have called it tech
00:58:22.660 people would have been already ejected by this game if they called it correctly right and it 0.96
00:58:26.320 was just too much right like it like this game was just too much it was just like petty shit 0.98
00:58:29.800 shitting on way overboard and like i can deal with that for a little bit but then like this is 0.97
00:58:35.220 at the end of the game i'm a little tired i'm hungry horrible combination and honestly when 0.97
00:58:41.000 she stole this ball i was like i was back there so i was like okay i literally in my head was like
00:58:45.540 you know you don't have to foul her like you don't like you're you're up by 15 there's x amount of
00:58:49.900 minutes or seconds left who cares you kind of wrapped your arms around it almost like you're
00:58:52.860 trying to get just a little bit of rest like a little second of rest well this is where no one
00:58:56.080 really believes me but actually i guess you can't really tell them that i would look like a liar if
00:59:00.920 i was about to say what i was going to say what were you going to say then well what i was going
00:59:04.000 to say is i was i was literally just going to go straight up yeah but at the last second i really 0.52
00:59:07.900 was like i was like fuck it and so i did that let me hug a bit yeah well i didn't mean to like get 0.97
00:59:13.120 her there but i mean i did get her but shit if you're gonna do that buck up and i i mean i'm not 0.98
00:59:18.000 ever gonna i mean and then you guys yeah it just didn't i mean but you just get tired of people's 0.99
00:59:24.020 shit i'm sure people in our league sure get tired of my shit and i know that and that's fine and like 0.95
00:59:28.540 that's part of pro sports and i think rivalries are fun i think when i think when teams or like 0.99
00:59:33.640 players don't like each other like you know it's about to be a good ass game i agree like and like
00:59:37.820 why don't people want that right like be like i get it like you can be cool and as a pro you have
00:59:42.420 to you have to there's a fine line still trying to figure that out the fine line of like being a
00:59:48.440 competitor but you might be teammates with them down the road but like at the end of the day i'm
00:59:53.040 sometimes maybe too good at being where my two feet are at where i'm like this is my team i'm
00:59:57.020 gonna go to war with them i'm gonna if they need something i'm gonna be there like that's just who
01:00:00.640 i am as a person as a player all that and so in that instance like that game was too much i was 0.97
01:00:05.320 over their shit and so i was like why not this what's up yeah yeah just gonna inject here myself
01:00:10.040 a little bit um one of the many things that stood out for people was your famous point right 0.99
01:00:15.360 and it was um and how do you take me through so how do you actually do it well is there a strategy
01:00:21.920 to it no no i think that i'm people say pointing is rude um but how are you gonna give so many
01:00:29.080 directions if you don't like if they don't have a uh gps or whatever well that's what i'm saying
01:00:33.520 and like i you know i'm saying yes say if you drove up to somebody right you're with your
01:00:39.760 grandpa or whatever you drive up and your grandpa's like how do i get to johnson's farm or whatever 0.71
01:00:44.400 and the guy just said well you go and didn't fucking point i would be like i don't know where 0.79
01:00:48.860 to go like go that way like we were like i just don't i don't know i think everyone's just got 0.93
01:00:53.800 so soft what if you see something in the sky i think i maybe have a pointing problem i don't
01:00:58.440 know because like growing up it's like oh yeah it's over there or like hey or like what's going
01:01:01.800 on like i'm like i use my hands when i talk like that's just you have a pointing problem you're
01:01:06.120 pointing. It's just saying, Hey, bear. Yeah. So it makes sense. And it's not like I walked out
01:01:12.380 there. God gave us 10 abilities to point. Yeah. So maybe I should have pointed with
01:01:15.820 this finger. Oh yeah. I'll point with that middle one a lot, boy. Yeah. See, and I don't. So anyway,
01:01:22.440 what happened was I, you know, I need to stop sticking it for my teammates. I think that's
01:01:26.740 what it is. That's where I get, that's where I get caught. Really? But that's fun though.
01:01:30.200 and it seems like it gives you a role too more even more of a role than just um smoking lays
01:01:36.900 just yeah just shooting threes and being a boss yeah i mean dude the game i was at i think he had 0.69
01:01:45.340 six threes yeah i mean that's what i get paid to do i should be able to do that type shit look at
01:01:51.000 this again okay and bro this point was up and what were you actually doing and what were you 0.87
01:01:56.080 thinking the point was up for 22 seconds were you just making sure they knew who did it yeah okay
01:02:01.800 no really was i just got in her head like look like here's the thing something happened and i
01:02:06.400 was talking to uh the ref 41 yeah um i'm blanking on his name it's like the pointer sisters wasn't
01:02:12.980 that an old band or whatever but what happened was i was like find one of their hit songs go on
01:02:17.540 but all i was saying i was like um if if she's gonna get a t shouldn't she i literally just
01:02:22.640 went like this and then she got she just got mad at me she's like don't you can point at me and i
01:02:27.060 was like oh shouldn't have said that boom yeah and that's when like she was just going i mean look at
01:02:31.120 it like she's just going crazy and so i just held i just held it i didn't say a word didn't say a
01:02:35.100 word i got my nails done that day so happy i did that oh so you definitely had to put them out on 0.96
01:02:39.980 the front porch i mean no but put them bitches on the front porch i did but not even knowing so and 1.00
01:02:45.800 you pointed for 22 seconds it said well she just kept going crazy like the thing is don't don't 1.00
01:02:51.780 react like don't like don't care who cares yeah like what if someone pointed me i'm like all right 0.94
01:02:57.140 cool like who gives a fuck yeah i don't know i just maybe i'm different i don't know that should 0.51
01:03:01.900 be the w logo did people there was a bunch of didn't people sell merch and everything about 0.97
01:03:05.760 this dude yes it was honestly the the internet's undefeated yeah yeah it's funny it was a good
01:03:12.860 moment and how did was there a certain way you did it how do you even unleash it dude i don't
01:03:16.740 know it was just natural okay like my like natural sash just kind of got got me okay i don't know
01:03:21.600 yeah yeah okay but like last year because the clip you guys played like last year fans would
01:03:27.160 come up and they're like can you put me in a headlock and i'm like oh why that's not because
01:03:31.620 of the clip before that we just showed and like now it's like oh point and i'm like i'm like let's
01:03:37.360 just take a normal photo yeah yeah um i was i was joking a little bit ago about uh people having
01:03:43.400 other jobs. Do people in the league have other jobs? Do you know? Honestly, this is a great point
01:03:49.640 because you were talking about like the NBA getting along. It's because they all make a
01:03:54.060 shit ton of money. Yeah. So like no one, I mean, they care, right? And they, they love ball, but 0.86
01:03:59.500 like they're all getting paid millions of dollars where all of them might not be, but a lot of them
01:04:04.020 are. And I agree. They all, they all are friends. So it is, it definitely, but it's because of the
01:04:09.060 money think about this like what is the minimum in the nba salary i have no idea
01:04:12.920 one year of service first of all calling it a year of service is an insane statement and that
01:04:20.180 is actually when there are people who are actually serving yeah one year of service dude
01:04:26.220 okay but look my point exactly is like it's 2.1 million yes and a rookie is making 1.3 it says
01:04:33.180 the nba league minimum salary for a rookie for the 2026 27 season is 1.3 while a veteran with
01:04:39.360 10 point while a veteran with 10 or more years of service earns a minimum of 3.8 so everyone's
01:04:43.960 at least making a million right so that might that might be a part of why they can get along
01:04:48.600 easier just because well yeah because everyone yes everyone's comfortable my rookie year after
01:04:52.660 tax and everything i think i made like 28 000 so yeah and i'm not like back then i was not a very
01:04:58.580 scholarly person like i went to high school i went to college because that was the steps to become a
01:05:02.440 professional athlete and I wish I would have been better in school. Like I wish I would have done
01:05:06.820 like finances or business or something like that. I didn't. And that's okay. Yeah, it's fine. But
01:05:11.220 what I'm getting at is like, I was making 28,000 and I was like, I was like, I need to get a job.
01:05:16.520 Like I need to actually do something to make money. So you were playing in the W and do you
01:05:20.260 have another job? And like, there's a girl, she just came out. Um, she plays for Seattle. Okay.
01:05:24.240 She actually was working at like a grocery store and playing in the WNBA. So like people actually 0.81
01:05:28.500 had two jobs, but now because of our new CBA agreement, which is great, it's going to continue
01:05:33.420 to get better. Like we're all making good money now, so we don't need to. The median salary is
01:05:38.140 $350,000 as a base pay. What does that say? Let me see. The average WNBA base salary in 2026 is
01:05:43.440 about $518,000, but most players earn far less with the median at $350,000 and 45% making $300,000
01:05:49.960 or less. Wow. That's a great deal of money. 31 players earn $1 million or more led by Kelsey
01:05:57.580 mitchell ajo aja wilson and nafisa collier nafisa nafisa nafisa collier at 1.4 million each
01:06:04.620 caitlin clark earned 528 000 in 2026 and is set to earn 597 she's still on her like rookie contract
01:06:10.300 in 2027 with a potential max deal um wow so it's gotten a lot better dude yeah like so that was the
01:06:17.100 only case so that's the only case you know of a woman that had another job i mean i know a lot
01:06:20.260 of people who are doing like side gigs and like i are people are people doing only fans or any
01:06:24.540 players doing only fans i don't think so i don't know i don't know i'm not i mean i don't know i
01:06:31.020 wouldn't know i guess have you ever thought about it or not no i'm like yeah no not at my alley
01:06:37.220 i keep my private to myself well actually i guess her wmba affiliated figures who have only fans
01:06:45.020 include veteran eric veteran guard erica wheeler and former all-star liz cambage wait what what
01:06:51.140 who launched an account after stepping away from the league so erica's is with only fans trying to
01:06:58.580 show that they have other content on there i was gonna say i've never heard of it of training
01:07:02.580 family you know this this doesn't make sense to me because that's like mcdonald's trying to serve
01:07:07.840 enchiladas like that's never going to be right if you yeah don't yeah you get what i'm saying
01:07:15.420 Like no one, I promise you, no one is going or thinking of that and thinking, oh, family, health content.
01:07:22.840 Right. Let me go to OnlyFans to see, yeah, this cool recipe or someone building a birdhouse with their son.
01:07:29.640 No, yeah, that's just not it.
01:07:32.000 Yeah. 0.96
01:07:32.880 And like, really, if she would have stuck it out a little bit, 1.5, I'm sure sounds nice, but she would have been making way more if she would have just stuck in the league. 1.00
01:07:39.900 If she just stayed in. 1.00
01:07:41.340 What are some things that take women out of the league that maybe we don't see? 1.00
01:07:45.420 Actually, that's good. 0.83
01:07:48.200 I'm going to hit on this point too, that I think a lot of people, we actually used to
01:07:52.240 have to go overseas because that's where we made the majority of our money.
01:07:55.000 So like now, because of this new CBA and even the last CBA, you saw less and less players
01:07:59.220 going overseas.
01:07:59.880 So like people would go to China, Russia, Turkey, Spain, like they would make hundreds
01:08:05.840 of thousands or millions of dollars over there.
01:08:07.720 So they had to.
01:08:08.940 Okay. 0.98
01:08:09.120 But if you have that WNBA like title within like who you are, you're going to automatically 1.00
01:08:14.860 make more money. Like that's, we were the most elite level that you could get at, but back then
01:08:19.140 we were making kind of like the minimum almost. And so now it's like flipping. So now we're
01:08:23.480 starting to get paid for, you know, who we are and what we represent and all of that. And so
01:08:27.820 it's good. So you see less and less people going overseas, but there's, um, a new, um,
01:08:33.800 off season league, um, that there's one in Miami and then there's one this year. It's actually
01:08:37.960 called project B. Um, and I'm, I'm doing it. It's like the first year project be like the pill or
01:08:43.180 whatever that's plan B. Oh my bad. Well, I mean, I could see how you get it confused. You know,
01:08:49.280 I don't take them. I'd be concerned if you did. Yeah. And would they let me play in the league?
01:08:56.220 I mean, Hey, if you're having to take that after some stuff, maybe you do belong in our league.
01:08:59.800 I don't know. We can all find common ground. Yeah. It's all perspective. We got to get some
01:09:06.840 help. Um, did, so we finished up where you said, I think I stepped on you. No, you're fine. So like
01:09:11.480 we're, um, like some of us too, like I stopped going and playing overseas because I was making
01:09:16.420 more money in, uh, marketing agreements. So I was, uh, endorsers partners. I was doing a broadcast
01:09:22.020 for NBA. So like, was that before you played in a, for the Mercury? No, that was like, um,
01:09:27.780 during, so like our season is from, Oh, you would finish your season with the W and then go play.
01:09:32.700 Yes. So like, so our season is from like mid April's when training camp starts. And then
01:09:37.400 we would typically in like beginning of october and so then from october to like beginning of
01:09:43.200 april a lot of people will go play in different leagues to like continue to make more money right
01:09:47.540 but i there's a lot of people including myself that like we made more money not doing that and
01:09:52.040 we made it more off of like doing deals yes all that type of stuff right yeah yeah so you were
01:09:56.880 able to have those opportunities you didn't have to exactly right yeah um a lot of people's argument
01:10:01.380 with i mean you guys are getting paid better now you guys have television deals and things like
01:10:05.220 that um i do just even by watching y'all i start to get to know other players yes dude there was a
01:10:11.480 freaking dime that played on the tempo you know what i'm talking about um white makes black mixed
01:10:18.480 kind of um izzy harrison post player she's beautiful but they they have they have a lot 1.00
01:10:24.620 of pretty players though oh dude the point guard that they had i saw her in the freaking pool yeah 1.00
01:10:29.240 at the freaking hotel oh really yeah yeah she was nice i think is her last name she was tough 1.00
01:10:34.800 Yeah. She's a rookie. Yeah. She's good. Oh no. This lady, this lady had been in Toronto, 0.99
01:10:40.080 the Toronto team. Are they the maroon team? Yeah. They're new this year. Is that the tempo?
01:10:43.460 Yeah. Yeah. Who is that? Can you look up? Yeah. Just look it up. Sorry. I should probably know
01:10:47.640 that. No, it's cool. Oh, Mabry. Oh yeah. Marina. Yeah. Love her. You know what I love? She's tough.
01:10:54.900 Dude. Yeah. She's good. 20 points per game. Marina Mabry. That's who I saw play. I saw her 0.82
01:10:59.820 in the pool. Dude. I was, I was like, I saw her in the pool in Las Vegas. It was during summer 1.00
01:11:04.440 league oh yeah there was a you guys had a game i think a couple days like towards the end of
01:11:09.960 summer league but i was leaving that day but anyway um and i think i saw her in the pool with
01:11:14.900 like her family or something yeah but she's a bucket there she's good she's so good dude i
01:11:20.360 think it's so funny though that like normally females are going to like nba rosters and seeing
01:11:25.180 like oh where's the hot one and now here you are going to a wmba roster where's the hot one no i 1.00
01:11:31.120 didn't say that bro i said i you're not saying you're literally doing it oh yeah shit and you 0.88
01:11:37.560 did say it but i think it's fun but that's what you're saying is like the attention now you know 0.88
01:11:41.980 other people well i like it brings fans to everybody i know she's a badass like she's 0.97
01:11:46.180 freaking good yeah she was tough yeah um oh you know where i saw you i saw you at ufc in vegas
01:11:51.900 that was my first ufc event really it was awesome i remember dana saying right after i was talking
01:11:56.880 or are we just like i love dana oh he loves you he's like oh that's great no i well what happened
01:12:03.420 i was just kidding like clearly i don't look like a ring girl and so wow you said that a little too
01:12:08.660 fast relax well some of them are professional no like they're like real ring girls and so which is
01:12:13.500 a crazy term too let's just well sorry i don't know like i don't know anything about no about
01:12:18.040 ufc fighting oh no some of them are freaking war i mean they are number warriors what's what are we
01:12:24.460 talking about ring girls and there's freaking patty right behind you dude i know oh that was
01:12:29.780 the best energy fight i feel like like the mcgregor one oh my god yeah what's the what's
01:12:35.040 the song yeah it's fucking awesome because here's what happened usually they just come out and then
01:12:40.720 they start to fight but this time since they have a new deal with paramount they had i thought you're 0.51
01:12:45.020 gonna say because they have a new ring girl all right whatever paramount but i love how i love
01:12:50.440 I was about, it was about you though.
01:12:52.500 They're like, oh, this ring girl is so good. 0.99
01:12:54.020 Let's just keep having her do laughs.
01:12:55.040 We're not going to, yeah.
01:12:57.240 But they had, they went to a, they had more commercial breaks.
01:13:01.040 They had to go to a commercial.
01:13:02.040 Okay.
01:13:02.340 So they just let him basically have this DJ moment in the middle of the ring.
01:13:05.560 Yeah, dude.
01:13:05.980 It was awesome.
01:13:06.820 And so what, but the McGregor, like, yeah, that's me. 0.99
01:13:12.000 At least she's shaved under your arms. 0.96
01:13:13.960 Yeah. 0.98
01:13:15.080 That's good.
01:13:16.180 Thanks.
01:13:16.940 But what I was going to say is I.
01:13:18.640 And you're number one.
01:13:19.380 um i was talking to dana and i was like literally kidding that was the first time i met him and you
01:13:24.240 said let me go love it i said hey i said right when he was leaving i said hey if you need another
01:13:27.880 ring girl and i literally went like that he's like you want to do it and then i was like yeah
01:13:31.440 he's like no seriously you're up in like five minutes i was like oh shit wow yeah i actually
01:13:35.080 got i don't really get nervous for things and i don't know why i was gonna get nervous to turn 0.62
01:13:40.520 left yeah like well could you go left easily or is that a yeah i think i did it i think i can walk
01:13:46.620 left yeah well i would get scared i think no it's actually way more nerve-wracking than what
01:13:51.960 you give those well i i did not give maybe those girls as much credit as i should but then once i
01:13:58.900 was over there well like i don't know like when when you're not when all you see is like
01:14:03.260 them walking but then when you have to be the one walking it's like a whole different deal 0.98
01:14:07.840 yeah like give them some damn respect shit's hard dude i've been supporting them dude i've 0.98
01:14:14.180 been freaking i think i slid into one of them yeah that's what i'm saying you're supporting 0.99
01:14:17.660 them for different reasons ufc though as a whole amazing experience had you been before no oh you'd
01:14:23.400 never been ever it's the best but i will say i am definitely a newbie because on one of the fights
01:14:28.880 someone like kicked the shit out of someone and i i heard the skin on skin and i went oh and
01:14:34.160 everyone else is silent and i had got like no joke like 25 people were like and i was like sorry it's 0.60
01:14:38.600 my first fight and they were like oh it's okay i'm like are you not allowed to scream here like
01:14:42.780 they can beat the shit out of each other where you can't be like oh it's kind of crazy like there
01:14:46.500 is like this odd silence it same thing happens i feel like at a lot of sporting events at boxing 0.74
01:14:50.800 i notice sometimes people be very silent while the beating is going on oh see and here here's
01:14:55.560 my thing too is like i'm fine like yeah you can get a hit in but once like they're like knocked
01:15:00.520 out i can't watch anymore like i i don't know like call the fight faster oh sometimes they let
01:15:06.420 them punch them one more time after he's knocked out and sometimes two more times yeah and just
01:15:10.320 like i guess if they've been really bad but like choking people out scares the shit out of me 0.91
01:15:14.280 i'd really get choked up because then at least you're gonna go you're gonna no that's like a 0.81
01:15:18.340 slower that's a slower like death i'd rather just get knocked out because then you're just knocked 0.99
01:15:23.520 out you don't have to like oh it's happening you know it's like oh shit it happened hmm i haven't 0.99
01:15:29.040 thought about actually i have thought about it yeah i'd rather just get choked out and then come 0.53
01:15:33.700 back and like what where was i you know yeah who am i or whatever yeah um and they just had
01:15:41.600 and this they had the teams that were walking out on the anthem the other night yeah how do you feel
01:15:47.080 about that or do you have any thoughts on it or is it even i mean you know who you're talking to
01:15:50.940 of course i have thoughts on it yeah that's a good obviously i wasn't even asking you of course i
01:15:54.820 knew and i think the majority of people know my thoughts but i will say like this is like this
01:16:02.180 has been happening throughout the whole season oh it has yeah so this isn't like anything new
01:16:06.140 people are just kind of like getting mad about it now but it's it's happened the whole season so
01:16:09.900 um i don't know like i i don't know i just feel like personally i have um a lot of i am grateful
01:16:18.420 and i support the people who serve um we have family members who have served and uh you know
01:16:24.180 they're over there doing things that are imaginable for us to be out here living our dreams and having
01:16:28.240 the freedoms that we live. And so anytime that I can shout out our veterans and the people who
01:16:32.760 are currently, you know, fighting for us to, to live in the best country, um, you know, I'm going
01:16:37.580 to show that support and I'm going to give them love. And so, uh, that's where I stand. Um, that
01:16:41.660 doesn't mean that's where everyone stands and if it's right, wrong, whatever, but, um, no, I take
01:16:47.060 a lot of pride of where I come from and I'm, I'm, I'm proud to be an American citizen. Yeah. Yeah.
01:16:51.800 That's how I feel. It's like, what do you mean? The least I can do is somebody's over there doing
01:16:55.100 something i can have a moment of peace or respect yeah or prayer or a moment to think about them
01:16:59.940 exactly and not to think about myself yeah it's not even about like what i need or any of my
01:17:04.740 feelings or whatever for me i totally it's like the one time where you had to be good
01:17:09.360 or like have a moment where you're like okay this isn't about me i need 20 seconds of your
01:17:14.120 best behavior yeah do it like yeah yeah yeah that's all i mean i definitely feel that is there
01:17:20.240 a lot of pressure in the league to do that to like for those kind of walk like that kind of stuff to
01:17:24.180 take stands or do you guys do that kind of stuff or talk about it as a team i mean yeah i think
01:17:27.920 that's like something that the wmba is kind of known for is like we um we stand for uh a lot of
01:17:35.800 things um and again we have a lot of women in this league and that doesn't mean we're all gonna agree
01:17:41.180 and we're it's not like we're all aligned on some of those things oh you guys have the diversity
01:17:45.540 in there is insane when you think about it y'all got mothers yeah y'all got stepmothers in there
01:17:50.000 Nobody even thinks about the stepmother's union in the W, right?
01:17:54.520 Y'all got studs, y'all got ballers, y'all got women that can dunk, 1.00
01:17:59.440 which also should be a special group of women that should meet every now and then 0.85
01:18:02.520 just to discuss what's going on amongst them. 1.00
01:18:04.620 Because that's a rare group, right?
01:18:06.680 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:18:07.100 I think we need more like unifying than more groups.
01:18:10.580 Oh, I see what you're saying.
01:18:11.520 I get where you're coming from, right?
01:18:13.560 But like, I think we need more unifying.
01:18:17.020 Yeah.
01:18:17.200 but then there is also this thing that makes it like you like it does feel something like you're
01:18:22.020 saying this team probably don't like this team yeah you know but i think that's healthy i agree
01:18:26.680 that is what sports is i agree like tell me tell me when you see all the players are best friends
01:18:31.620 it definitely is kind of like okay but like in college sec that's where i went to school like
01:18:36.340 not do you think that missouri loved every team and every player that we played against no okay
01:18:41.420 now take it to the men do you think all the men like no like we don't like why are we such why
01:18:46.700 do we have to be an outlier like it's okay to be a female and compete and yeah have rivalries and
01:18:52.620 it's like it's okay that's what sports is like yeah that's what we signed up for yeah so i just
01:18:57.580 i don't get that dude i kind of wish that every to every team was their own state team and then
01:19:02.200 the states all play each other that'd be badass it'd be so badass i feel like that there's a new
01:19:07.560 possibility for maybe like a like i know they've tried with like the ufl for football or but i feel
01:19:14.340 like I don't know you would just have so much more pride I mean there is a lot of pride with
01:19:18.300 certain areas and their teams yeah and I do think like when you're good like the state regardless
01:19:23.960 of where you're at rallies around that good team yeah and like on any sport like that's just
01:19:27.880 natural but I think in order to I don't know when they're when there's rivalry and there's stuff
01:19:32.920 on the line you just get like the fans are rowdier we're rowdier like I just think that's fun
01:19:37.920 entertainment at the end of the day we're in an entertainment business like I don't know I think
01:19:42.100 it's part of it when you're out on the court is there a lot of studs out there hollering at you 1.00
01:19:46.500 or what like like like the fans yeah like are fans is there like a lot of lesbian women trying
01:19:52.200 to flirt or anything like that does that happen i mean i don't i don't here we go again oh sorry
01:19:57.140 i keep going down this road i just feel for some reason i feel like it's like playing a game i
01:20:01.780 don't know who's yelling at me i feel like it's like a lot of girls would be like hey let me get
01:20:06.860 number after the game or something like that is there energy like that ever uh i mean yeah but
01:20:11.920 like it's also so that happens in the game sometimes oh oh i'm talking about like before
01:20:16.860 and like after and stuff like that okay but like in the game like i promise you you don't hear
01:20:21.000 people yelling like you're that locked in like it's like it's i don't hear the crowd yeah you
01:20:25.660 know what i mean yeah like you can tell the volume if like it's loud or if it's quiet but you can't
01:20:29.920 hear individual people yeah yeah but yeah i'm thinking if there's like a girl flirting with
01:20:35.040 you on a court like let me cross you up and then uncross you you know god or something is that
01:20:40.380 crazy to say i gotta get some great pickup line honestly like yeah it is but uh no no one's ever
01:20:46.640 used that on me so okay well what'd you say let me i'm gonna cross you up and then uncross you 1.00
01:20:53.140 yeah yeah is that good i like that i should have been a freaking lesbian dude they said i had the 0.98
01:20:58.100 fucking heart of a lesbian when i was a child bring up that clip can you bring that up this is true 0.99
01:21:03.360 there's a clip about it our doctor said it you know i was born with a rare body style 1.00
01:21:11.500 you know the doctors when i said when i was born some of the doctors said i had the
01:21:16.760 rib cage of a large cat and some of the doctors said i had the heart of a lesbian 0.72
01:21:21.880 praise god that you know i had that real that ticker that wants to you know just be naughty 0.99
01:21:28.540 and sometimes do something deviant.
01:21:31.020 I didn't know it said all that at the end,
01:21:32.820 but you know what it is.
01:21:35.500 Anyway, rough transition here,
01:21:37.360 but let's talk about your faith.
01:21:40.020 You got baptized as an adult, right?
01:21:43.700 I'm going to bring you to church with me.
01:21:45.820 What church do you go to?
01:21:48.040 Because of my lifestyle, I don't have-
01:21:50.300 It's hard to go sometimes?
01:21:51.560 Well, I just don't have like a home, home church.
01:21:53.600 But like, I'm just like, I was raised Catholic,
01:21:55.640 but now I'm just like more Christian.
01:21:57.080 um so i can never say this word non-denominational just said it um and so like yeah i just i i love
01:22:06.700 jesus and i've actually listened to you a little bit that you're starting to kind of maybe get into
01:22:10.360 it or intrigued by it a little bit oh yeah or maybe that was just you not actually i don't know
01:22:15.900 but it's okay but all i'm saying is i i rely a lot on my faith because of what i do for living
01:22:22.180 um you get a lot of hate you get a lot of praise and i think that just like morally in my head
01:22:27.500 everything like it just keeps me stable and it keeps me to be who i am like i don't care
01:22:31.600 what people's opinions are about me yeah because i'm not living for their praise so yeah yeah the
01:22:38.700 part that i like the most or sometimes right now in my life is just like prayer connection with god
01:22:43.480 but then sometimes it's like i'll get too busy and it gets like disconnected and then i feel
01:22:47.980 scared almost get a little bit like ah well don't be scared why would you I'm not scared yeah I
01:22:52.680 don't know why I said scared but I get like I wish I had I wish my connection was stronger right now
01:22:57.440 that's what I get like like I you know it's like um it's like if you charge your phone but then
01:23:02.380 you see it getting low but you feel like dang dude I feel you like you need something to feel
01:23:06.800 but there's nothing I'm just gonna say this and this is for other people listening too but there's
01:23:11.540 nothing that you can or can't do that's gonna separate you from God's love and grace and
01:23:15.700 forgiveness. Like that's why Jesus came and died on the cross because he already knew everything
01:23:18.960 you were going to do. So like, I mean, that's up to you now to like kind of educate yourself and
01:23:24.420 read the Bible of like good, bad, how are you going to represent? Um, but like you're already
01:23:28.520 forgiven. So like, no, I think I understand that I'm saying. Yes. I'm like, you probably feel
01:23:33.740 better when you are right. If you just, when you are praying and you are, Oh yeah. I mean, yeah,
01:23:38.060 I just feel, I just feel more of a like personal connection when it's like, um, I'm prayed up.
01:23:44.620 yeah my buddy say stay prayed up my buddy he say that all the time stay prayed up it's almost like
01:23:51.880 if you talk to somebody around then that you don't have to catch up with them well that's a
01:23:54.780 thousand percent what it is that's what i'm saying yeah no a hundred percent so it's like but sometimes
01:23:58.600 i'll get like yeah i'll just yeah i'll just get honestly busy i mean that but that's that's
01:24:04.040 natural that's what it is to be human you just got to prioritize the the good yeah yeah do you feel
01:24:09.760 like i feel like sometimes the media doesn't it feels like it's the media is unfair to christians
01:24:14.140 Do you ever feel like that?
01:24:16.340 I mean, it's all how you perceive it and your perspective on things.
01:24:20.800 But I do love that there's more and more people coming out that they are Christians and that they are believers.
01:24:25.980 And I feel like there's a revival happening.
01:24:28.720 And I love when people have the confidence to be their true selves and to represent something bigger than them.
01:24:36.820 And sometimes it can be scary of, you know, you never know how people are going to take that because people have, you know,
01:24:41.580 bad experiences with the church or really with the church or religious people. And that's not
01:24:46.700 really what it is. And so when you see people coming out, athletes, um, you know, it's kind
01:24:50.660 of my realm and you see more and more people who have a huge platform, have a lot of eyes and ears
01:24:54.860 looking at them. Um, it's cool to see them be able to be bold and courageous and come out about
01:24:58.900 Jesus. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it is. I think a lot of you, you know what I do notice that you see a lot
01:25:05.860 of it amongst athletes. There's a lot of faith in the athlete, in the athlete community. Do you
01:25:09.500 think that that's real or do you think that that's posturing sometimes and i guess maybe does it even
01:25:12.960 matter but i just thought about it it's like the more like more athletes that i've gotten to know
01:25:16.880 probably in the past four years i've known more than ever in my whole life yeah and it does seem
01:25:21.120 like there's a lot more faith-based energy in their world really yeah do you think like coming
01:25:25.920 from like is this like a comedian like the comedian world you don't see it as much or
01:25:30.820 you're just like the because you're kind of in a different yeah comedians i think you don't see it
01:25:34.580 as much you know what i'm saying these are just questioning everything and they're like you know
01:25:37.580 a lot of them probably, which I don't think that's a bad thing. Like, I don't think questioning and
01:25:40.520 asking the why is bad either. Yeah. But no, I don't know. I think this is all I know. Like I'm,
01:25:45.760 I've only ever been an athlete. So like I've, there are athletes who aren't and that's totally
01:25:50.360 okay. And, um, you know, it is what it is. That's, that's their walk. But I know the majority of
01:25:56.400 people that I'm around and who I know, um, they are faith-based. Oh yeah. I mean, I find more and
01:26:01.680 more of my friends are these days are trying to, and that's really the biggest thing is just trying
01:26:05.540 to have a relationship trying to learn about it we want to have some more uh religious figures on
01:26:10.000 to talk about stuff on here it's pretty fun you should and like people who love history love
01:26:14.740 science like talk to these people who are like i don't know they're just um experts when it comes
01:26:21.180 to uh the bible and that's what they do for a living and so people are like oh well history
01:26:26.700 and science it doesn't mix well actually all pretty much top scientists they figured out that
01:26:31.240 Jesus did live and he is real. And so you should have them on because I think it'd be a fascinating
01:26:36.180 conversation. And I think you would ask some great questions. Yeah. Yeah. We want to have it. Yeah.
01:26:41.360 Yeah. Thanks. And yeah, we want to have the Pope on, but he won't. I don't even know if he has a
01:26:46.560 phone. I mean, someone has a phone around there. They're not the Amish and even the Amish have
01:26:52.320 phones. There is a kid that does Amish Timothy. He's coming back on. Really? Yeah. Did you know
01:26:56.980 that people in prison have phones now i didn't know this yeah i just found this out last week
01:27:01.380 yeah i think they're drewski fans but yeah a lot of them are but dude maybe the pope would send
01:27:06.440 him some of those smoke signals and he would hit us back dude maybe you should start with that if
01:27:12.080 you get him on what about off the court so what's your life like off the court are you engaged are
01:27:20.260 you what's going on are you going on love island no why would i go on love island i heard a rumor
01:27:24.380 that you were no i literally like i am someone who actually like i'm trying to um i was not
01:27:31.220 always like this like i feel like i was one foot in one foot out with my faith and now that i'm
01:27:35.500 like two feet in i'm not i'm trying to not live that life what is that like being in a relationship
01:27:40.880 you mean um no the love island oh yeah yeah yeah a little reckless well also the island doesn't
01:27:48.040 seem like it has any love on it i mean you know what i'm saying yeah but some people but people
01:27:53.940 love, love watching that. I've literally never, I've seen one episode and I felt like my brain
01:27:58.560 cells were dying. So I stopped. Yeah. Like I need all the brain cells I can get, you know?
01:28:03.020 Yeah. Got to protect them. Yeah. Yeah. Um, is it ever a common thing in the W where women will
01:28:09.760 like kind of where they want to have a family? Does that become a tough thing that some women 1.00
01:28:13.700 start to balance? Do you hear about that? Oh yeah. And I think that's like a more and more thing. 0.99
01:28:17.640 And, um, typically, you know, it's, it's people, it's doable.
01:28:22.860 Like you can be pregnant, go have your baby and come back.
01:28:26.880 Now it's hard on your body.
01:28:27.780 There are people have done it.
01:28:29.420 Um, a lot of people, um, that were my teammates, this is strictly my experience and like teach
01:28:34.540 their own on this, but their wives are typically the carriers.
01:28:37.780 And so the wife had to have, yeah, has the baby. 0.96
01:28:41.820 Okay. 0.99
01:28:42.220 Yeah.
01:28:42.360 So they're, they're not the ones having the baby.
01:28:45.040 Okay.
01:28:45.360 So they don't have the baby. 0.99
01:28:46.320 The wife had the baby. 1.00
01:28:47.640 yeah okay and hold on a second they don't have the baby the wife has the baby so the wife carries
01:28:53.660 the baby yeah so this and the semen or whatever they buy it from somewhere yeah but but i think
01:28:59.560 like now this could be totally wrong but i think now like you can i mean no i know i'm right on
01:29:03.960 this you can have your partner carry your egg oh like the assist or whatever yeah like the greatest
01:29:11.660 i mean if we're talking basketball terms yeah the assist yeah yeah yeah they they go and dunk it
01:29:15.820 Like the greatest assist or whatever.
01:29:17.660 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:29:18.680 Or surrogate. 0.99
01:29:19.680 But like, if you don't know balls, you don't know balls. 1.00
01:29:22.220 The surrogates could be a good WNBA name. 1.00
01:29:24.980 Fuck. 1.00
01:29:27.240 Yeah. 1.00
01:29:27.780 If there were like an expansion team.
01:29:29.160 Yeah.
01:29:30.320 You're on a roll. 1.00
01:29:31.160 So we got the licks and the surrogates.
01:29:33.840 I'm just brainstorming something. 0.68
01:29:35.180 No, I like this.
01:29:35.840 I don't think any idea is a bad idea.
01:29:37.880 Yeah.
01:29:39.240 Oh, I could see it.
01:29:41.220 I could see it a little bit.
01:29:42.400 Yeah, because I just wonder like, yeah,
01:29:44.760 Just something that I like expansion.
01:29:46.320 You got to freshen the league up, you know? 0.80
01:29:47.980 I mean, how many times can you have young MA play at the halftime show?
01:29:50.920 You know what I'm saying?
01:29:51.520 Like you got to, you got to freshen the league up.
01:29:53.800 You got to, you got to.
01:29:55.160 We got to try.
01:29:55.680 The tides are changing, you know?
01:29:56.740 So you got to continue to grow with it.
01:29:58.480 We got to try new stuff. 0.63
01:30:00.940 Is there any women that you know of that ever have ever played pregnant in the league? 0.99
01:30:05.560 And are they allowed to play pregnant in the league? 0.90
01:30:09.060 Yes, actually.
01:30:11.360 I think one of my teammates was.
01:30:13.920 like if i'm i know she was i just don't know how far along because i think that's like
01:30:18.640 is it i don't know i don't know i've never had a kid in my life but i feel like you'd have to tell
01:30:25.500 your doctors you're pregnant right and like you could hide you could wear like a cummerbund or
01:30:29.480 whatever well i know but i feel like once once the player tells like the team doc or like the
01:30:33.700 team trainers that you're pregnant yeah then like it's there they have to be like okay at this time
01:30:38.420 you should probably not play you know what i mean but i feel like you could play up to like
01:30:42.680 three four months i don't know do you guys know i don't know because i don't know but people have
01:30:50.380 definitely played pregnant like she's not the only one there's like there's been multiple people who
01:30:54.160 but then you kind of see them taking like once they find out i guess just shooting three pointers
01:30:58.440 or whatever no they they don't play that season like they they sit out yeah yeah yeah so is that
01:31:03.460 a part of this is their baby season or whatever um i mean there's like a term for that i don't
01:31:07.760 know. I literally don't know. I should probably know more, but I will say like back when I first
01:31:13.480 started, like five years ago, like it didn't, you could not be pregnant and play like they, 0.83
01:31:19.000 you kind of get, I don't want to say in trouble, but yes, you want to get your salary. But now 0.99
01:31:25.160 in our new CBA, now you receive a hundred percent of our base salary.
01:31:30.260 Wow. So, but, but before you couldn't, you had to, it was like pay or it was like player pay.
01:31:34.320 Well, you actually looked that up because I'm pretty sure that like we, there was, it was like a bad thing where like we weren't allowed to be pregnant and play.
01:31:41.900 Like you kind of had to pick and choose what you wanted to do. 1.00
01:31:45.080 WNBA players now receive a hundred percent of their base salary while on maternity leave. 1.00
01:31:48.320 That's currently. 1.00
01:31:49.280 Yeah.
01:31:50.040 Let me see before that.
01:31:51.640 Yeah. 0.99
01:31:53.020 Under older WNBA collective bargaining agreements and historical team practices, pregnancy was frequently treated similar to an injury, illness, or contractual impairment.
01:32:00.400 Yeah. 0.93
01:32:00.500 Like you could get cut.
01:32:02.520 Hmm.
01:32:02.920 which that's like actually insane right yeah i mean yes it is looking at it through the eyes of
01:32:12.660 now right but even then it's like if you're if it's like yeah you would think they would keep
01:32:17.820 you on but i think who knows if there was enough money and you know i'm saying in the end it's
01:32:21.320 unfortunate that so many things come down to money when you're involved in a business right
01:32:26.080 if it's just a group of women traveling around playing basketball yeah for the completely for 1.00
01:32:30.520 the love of the game yeah and gestating together or having a child or someone of them has a child 1.00
01:32:35.100 yeah then yeah you don't they're there but you would you would think of though like as a idiot 0.93
01:32:40.940 if you're like trying no but like if you're trying to like promote women and like right everyone's 0.97
01:32:46.500 like oh we support you equality like all that then and then the second quiche is knocked up 0.99
01:32:52.520 when fucking yeah you're psyched you're cut bitch like what like so you're you're you yeah that makes 0.99
01:32:58.840 no sense to me so i'm glad we fixed that good job yeah that was good the one thing we're learning 1.00
01:33:03.620 today it's one step at a time so if you kind of yeah i like it that's one thing we're learning
01:33:07.180 um where like if say if say a man in the world where does a man meet sophie cunningham these
01:33:13.320 days there's a lot of young men out there that are you know not even loiterers good men probably
01:33:18.820 you know do guys feel like do you like do guys hit on you in your dms or is it just something
01:33:23.380 like you meet a man in his regular life like could you meet a man at like a gas station or
01:33:27.060 like a petco or anywhere or like anywhere i'm just thinking of places out loud yeah uh is petco a
01:33:33.300 thing still are they yeah they have one of the largest hamps they own one of the largest hamster
01:33:39.140 reserves in america you kind of remind me of a hamster oh really yeah my first job was selling
01:33:44.480 hamsters really yeah well i'm sure you did a really good job with that um i don't really know
01:33:49.720 like i it was okay oh you didn't do a great job i sold we sold them outside of raves i did all right
01:33:55.660 but do basketball players mostly date other basketball players is that the biggest thing
01:33:59.280 amongst the straight players in y'all's league um i think i don't know about basketball players
01:34:03.940 but like typically athletes like yeah i'm we're tall like we're right you have to yeah you can't
01:34:10.240 hug somebody and have them not show up for it yeah i mean i guess but like you i don't know
01:34:17.660 yeah i don't know about other i just don't care enough to know about other people's dating life
01:34:22.680 And I know like athletes are hard though.
01:34:24.880 Like we're hard. 0.96
01:34:25.520 Like our schedule sucks. 0.92
01:34:26.980 You're always on the road, 0.98
01:34:28.080 but like male athletes are scary.
01:34:31.300 Like they just, they're scary.
01:34:34.400 Are they?
01:34:34.980 I mean, they, they have so much money.
01:34:36.460 They have, they're, anything's accessible.
01:34:38.520 And like, you know what I mean?
01:34:39.740 Like, that's kind of scary.
01:34:41.220 Yeah.
01:34:42.220 It can be dangerous.
01:34:43.440 Dangerous.
01:34:43.880 There you go.
01:34:44.420 Like, like if you're not mature enough to handle all of that,
01:34:47.720 it could be scary.
01:34:48.560 It could be fun.
01:34:49.160 It could be dangerous.
01:34:50.100 I mean, I'm sure it is fun.
01:34:51.300 until it's not exactly but honestly that's in any industry think about it doctors comedians
01:34:59.640 yeah an NBA athlete is a very insider industry right there is that what you're saying I don't
01:35:06.020 know I don't know what I'm saying I don't know what we're talking about anymore your podcast is
01:35:11.360 no hezi and that's out now you can find it on everywhere and it's with Sophie Cunningham and
01:35:17.860 drew Hanlon and, uh, congratulations. Thanks man. It's new. I think we're on like week five or six
01:35:24.180 and it's been fun. We're trying to figure it out. So nice. Yeah. Do you have big plans for the
01:35:28.400 off season? Is there something specific you're going to do or learn a skill? I know that, um,
01:35:33.240 one of your players, I know that Kelsey Mitchell just finished school. Yeah. She's like getting 0.93
01:35:37.020 her PhD. I know she was doing it during season. She's the best. She's simply the best. She's so 0.85
01:35:41.620 great. Um, no, I'm not going back to school. Um, I don't know what I'm doing this off season. I'm
01:35:47.340 kind of just like having fun doing project B which like we're going to different countries
01:35:51.260 going to explore that and oh you are so you're going to be traveling with that yeah so like it's
01:35:55.080 like you play 10 days and then you're off the rest of the month so that's kind of awesome doing that
01:35:58.760 league yeah oh I didn't even realize yeah project B so like where are you guys going to be playing
01:36:02.620 we'll be um over in China Singapore Spain Germany I think that's it I think it's only four countries
01:36:10.420 Poland too are you going to Poland no no Poland dang but yeah so I'll be doing that but otherwise 0.85
01:36:15.000 I was just kicking it, hanging out. 1.00
01:36:16.100 Excellent.
01:36:17.080 All right, Sophie Cunningham, thank you so much.
01:36:19.220 Thank you.
01:36:20.100 This was a blast.
01:36:21.100 Was it?
01:36:21.560 It was fun.
01:36:22.160 I really enjoyed this.
01:36:23.120 Oh, good.
01:36:23.700 Yeah.
01:36:24.500 It's my speed.
01:36:25.640 My brain speed.
01:36:26.640 Okay, good.
01:36:27.280 Now I'm just floating on the breeze
01:36:30.940 And I feel I'm falling like these leaves
01:36:33.880 I must be cornerstone
01:36:37.220 Oh, but when I reach that ground
01:36:41.760 I'll share this peace of mind I found
01:36:44.600 I can feel it in my bones
01:36:48.100 But it's gonna take