A Gun Man ｜ This Past Weekend #273
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1 hour and 29 minutes
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216.76494
Summary
Nico Furlon is a man that I met at the gun store and I went in there recently and I didn t know what I was doing, but I did know that I wanted to get a gun and this man had so much knowledge and experience in the bulletry world. He is also a gunsmith and he is a bonafide gunman.
Transcript
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Today's episode is brought to you by Gray Block Pizza.
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Today's guest is a man that I met at the gun store.
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And this man had so much information and just knew so much in that realm.
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You kill me, I'll fucking drink your blood, bro.
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So, Nico, yeah, I appreciate you coming in today, man.
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And, you know, because you sold me two guns recently.
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And I was just thinking about it whenever I was at the gun store.
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We got handguns, revolvers, rifles, shotguns for all your needs.
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If you want to be a murderer, if you want to be a fisherman, if you want to.
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Yeah, we had a guy by us, actually, when I was growing up that would put people.
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He was kind of the guy if you had to put your dog down.
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Would you expect compensation for that or he would just do it?
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You know, what if I fucking, or what if some people would try to strangle their dog or something?
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Yeah, but no, he was like, he was sick, you know?
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And he's a little chihuahua, so he wants to sleep in the bed.
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I think he was too weak, and he's sleeping with my brother in his bed.
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It was a movie with Arnold Schwarzenegger, though.
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But yeah, dude, you sleep with your brother, bro.
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Well, he's like a, you know, he's a hairy Italian guy, you know?
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One of the reasons I wanted to talk today was just because of, like, I ended up buying
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And I didn't know if I even wanted any guns, but once the pandemic hit, once the COVID came
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in, I was like, I think I need to get some guns.
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And so I came over there to you guys, and yeah, just the whole experience, like, what
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has the experience been for you, like, working at a gun store?
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Well, I mean, it's completely unprecedented what's going on.
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I worked there with a lot of guys that have been working in the firearms industry for a
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And they've been selling guns for longer than I've been alive.
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The month of March had more background checks done than any other month in the history of
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When the first kind of panic started going on, we had over, you know, nearly 200 people
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outside the store waiting to get in before we opened.
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Four to five-hour lines just for service because we were just full of people.
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And if you're around L.A., you know there's not that many gun stores.
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There's a few, a handful just around, especially West L.A.
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And where we are, you know, kind of like in the epicenter of a bunch of different neighborhoods.
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So we're by Torrance, Manhattan Beach, Hawthorne, you know, on the way to Gardena.
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So we're kind of like in that, right in the middle of all that.
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Oh, it's, I'm going to be honest, man, it's mostly Latino.
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A clientele is mostly Latino, but you get, I mean, I was surprised when I started working
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there, the diversity of people purchasing firearms.
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And so when you say like, like how, how soon after kind of the pandemic hit or after like,
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did you notice there was a certain thing that brought people in?
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The vast majority of people in there buying guns as of recent have been brand new gun
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This was the first time that people really started talking about openly in the store,
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buying these guns and using them in the defense of their property from people willing to take
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A lot of people were like, oh, hey, I want, you know, I want to get a tactical shotgun.
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And it's like, oh, if you ever ask them, well, what do you plan on doing with it?
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And you know, it's a good thing for home defense.
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But now it's like, oh, I need to get this because what if someone breaks in and they're
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trying to take my stuff and they were just going off about it.
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They're talking about, you know, it kind of reminded them of the riots in LA in 92.
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Some of the old timers talking about the watch riots back in, I believe, the 70s.
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I was like, wow, well, I live in an area that has a history of unrest, you know, of civil
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unrest, if things get, you know, if things get squirreled out really.
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Cause I was even thinking to myself, like, why am I buying a gun?
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Um, I mean, I think I'd always kind of wanted to get a gun, but I'd never acted on it.
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And then suddenly it was like, okay, I'm going to get this gun.
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And, uh, and I think it was just, yeah, I want to be able to take care of myself.
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I want to be able to, like, if things get real heated, you know, and somebody's coming
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over, somebody's stealing diapers from me or stealing water or stealing whatever.
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But I guess it's, it's, it's funny because of my first, I think my first instinct would
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be if somebody like really needed help would be to help them.
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But then if somebody's coming in with the intent, not looking for help.
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What were some of the, have you gotten some wild questions from people during this time?
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Um, I mean, you get, you get some, you get all types of weirdos in there, man.
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I remember one dude was coming in, he was like an older white guy and he was coming
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in and he was like, uh, he was like, I'm looking for a 45, 70 lever action rifle and 45
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seventies used to be the standard military cartridge for the U S pretty much right after
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Um, just pretty much until right before world war one.
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And it's a very powerful, large big bore cartridge.
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They use it for Buffalo hunting, stuff like that.
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And, uh, and, and the general, and the gentleman I was talking to was like, Oh yeah.
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Like, why are you looking for something like that?
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And he was like, well, I read that this is a good gun for a riot.
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Like, what are you going to do with it during a riot?
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And he's just like, Oh, you know, like it's a heavy bullet.
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And then it's a way to get to the front of the line.
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I mean, a lot of people looking for really cheap guns.
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It was like, dude, I'm like, I'm gonna sell you a knife, man.
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And so, but you've gotten a lot of new users in for the first time.
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And where, so what's, what's the gun that you usually recommend for those types of people?
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Uh, if they're looking for, um, first I got to ask them, are you looking for a rifle?
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Most people can at least answer though, that question.
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Like what out of those three major categories can, are you looking for?
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And, and if they're looking for a handgun, I recommend just most polymer frame striker fired
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pistols, really easy to use like a Glock for an example, Springfield XDs, but we're
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Uh, Smith and Wesson, you know, shield Smith and Wesson SD9.
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Those guns are really popular for new gun buyers because they're really, really simple
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And when you say that, so California has like different laws, like would they have different,
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we can't get certain types of guns here, you mean, or we can't?
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Well, long guns, rifles and shotguns, you're not really limited on, on, on the exact specific
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They have to be California compliant, which means they have to have a list of features that are
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And then for, uh, for handguns, there's like, there's something called the California handgun
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roster where there's an actual list of, of designated models that you can buy here in
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What that pretty much entails, as far as I understand it is that they pretty much need
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to pay a lot of money and pass all these safety requirements to get on the roster.
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And then for semi-automatic handguns, like one of the guns that you purchase a semi-automatic
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handgun, they pretty much need to be made after the year 2013, not the actual make, but
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the design of the gun needs to be from 2013 or before that.
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The reason for that is the California, uh, pretty much, I believe it was department of
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They dictated that if you're going to bring a new gun on the roster, a new semi-automatic
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handgun on the roster, it needs to have micro stamping technology.
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That was, I believe those are the words they used.
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Micro stamping technology would, would entail where if you fired the bullet, it would leave
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an imprint on the bullet that would be able to track the gun specifically to that serial
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I feel like you see a lot of times on like a crime shows and stuff where people use a
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What that would pretty much entail is based on the way the firing pin hits the primer
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of the cartridge, they can tell what kind of gun it is.
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And maybe they could even tell what specific, what specific actual firearm it is.
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Oh, that was a, I'm based maybe on the extraction pattern as well.
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Oh, that was a, that was a Glock 17 for an example, or not even a 17.
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They can say, Oh, it's a Glock nine millimeter.
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Um, but with micro stamping technology, they pretty much are saying that they can track
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They can track the actual gun's serial number directly to you, which, which on CSI, it's
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Micro stamping is a process in which a gun imprints a unique microscopic code onto the
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The goal is to enable detectives to collect shell casings at a crime scene, enter the code
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in a debit database and quickly track the firearm to its owner.
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The problem is the technology is unreliable and expensive.
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Each time a gun is fired, it wears slightly, leaving a micro stamp unreadable after a short
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If you run out of like, I guess the ability maybe to like one of those ink pads or something,
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And so I guess they're trying to make, so this seemed like an early, this seems like a
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plan that would make great sense, but they just do not have the technology for it yet.
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And, and, and nor is it practical in the sense of it actually mitigating crime where, yeah,
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I mean, if you do have micro stamping technology, you could tell which firearm specifically it
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However, there are certain requirements that consider something a firearm in the United
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It, and it's typically the frame, also the receiver of a gun.
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So if you have a Glock pistol, right, which is a very standard pistol, just the plastic
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frame is the only part on the gun that actually has a serial number.
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Everything else is just, it's just a metal part.
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So I can buy a Glock, buy a firing pin online for $10, replace the firing pin, and it would
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And what's to stop someone from just grounding it off?
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So this is a bit, so this is something that theoretically would be great, but in reality
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And this is a law now that you had to have, that you have to have this?
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So new, new handguns from manufacturers to be sold in California, semi-automatic handguns
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need to have micro stamping technology for them to be approved on the roster.
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Is, is, is a gun that does not have micro stamping technology because it was being made and
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It's just that that specific model was allowed because they were making and selling that model
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They were, they were selling that model here in California before the year of 2013.
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So of the new like gun owners that you're seeing, like people that have come to the
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I mean, you said it was a lot of Latinos out there.
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At our shop, we get, we get a lot of gangsters.
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I mean, I've seen like dudes that are borderline, like white nationalists.
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Just straight, like just black gangsters, like blood scripts, that kind of stuff.
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And, uh, and yeah, they don't, I mean, a lot of times they don't even hide it.
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Like people that are devout Judaism only type of shit.
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I feel like, I feel like they have their own way of getting guns.
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We got some like stuff from Israel there, which is kind of cool.
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Well, they're surrounded by their enemies, you know?
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It's just a lot of just really random people, man.
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Whether it's like people my age, you know, just first time gun buyers, 21 years old, single
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And are they expressing fears about the pandemic?
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They're there telling, telling us like, I don't know what to get.
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I don't even really want to know anything about guns.
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I looked through some guns and kind of picked out the one that I wanted.
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But I don't think you were there entirely out of, out of fear, man.
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And they were, a lot of people were there really just like looking around and they, they just
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kind of, they just kind of were freaking me out to be honest with you, man.
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And is there an element where you have to like, if somebody's too, you, you determine
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Is that, can you, do you still have to sell them a gun?
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Like, if I'm coming from a place of like, just complete fear, then I could, I could make
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You don't want to fucking shoot a guy and he just had the mail.
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But that's, that's where it gets tricky because you also don't want to deprave someone of their
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Especially when there's a limited amount of gun stores and it's hard for them to get in.
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I mean, a lot of people were waiting for five hours for service and they want to get
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a gun and, and, and despite the reasons, I mean, out of fear, that's not necessarily
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a reason where I can take away their constitutional right.
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So there's no, so there's nothing in it like where you make any sort of like psychological
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And like another thing, like by requirement, if you smell like marijuana, I can't serve you.
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And I've, and I've had to tell like, I mean, man, I have some stories of these gangsters that
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I mean, people that smell like weed, but just like usually people that walk into a
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I know you're talking about, they sit in their infinity, you know, and they're smoking a
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backwood and they're like, they're in the parking lot and they're like, all right, now
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And do they, a lot of times think of them to be able to get it day of?
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Oh, oh my, most people, not most, but a lot of people were getting upset at us.
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Cause they were like, it's a 10 day waiting period in California.
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So if you start the background check that day, right.
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It just got extended to, it just got, uh, as of recent, they've been extended a little
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The DOJ pretty much sent out a notification to us that they're completely backed up on
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So even after the 10 day waiting period, the background check might not have cleared yet.
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So we've had, I mean, this weekend, probably over 40 people come pick up their guns and
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we had to deny them that access to pick up their firearm, even if it was after their
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10 day waiting period, just due to the fact that they cannot, the DOJ has not cleared
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And I checked it for you because pick your pickup date was yesterday.
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If you came in yesterday to get your firearms, which it would have been after the 10 day waiting
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No one I talked to there has ever seen that ever.
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Just the sheer amount of people that are buying guns in the United States and California.
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At least it's like, okay, we have to run some sort of a background check.
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We're not just filtering all of these people through.
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I mean, especially in California, I mean, that, that background check process is California
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There's a national background check system, right?
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When you fill out paperwork and that's what you did.
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And that national background check system doesn't necessarily mean a 10 day waiting period.
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There's a lot of other states where you can buy a day of and take it home.
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California is one of, one of the only, not one of the only, but there's a few states that
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I mean, Arizona, Utah, you go buy a day of, fill out the paperwork, take it home.
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Dude, Arizona, you know that they take a driver's license picture when you're like 19 years
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But that seems wild because if you, like, do you prefer that there is a, that there's a waiting period?
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It seems like there needs, there definitely should be a, because what if I'm just pissed about something?
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I'm all on DMT and I want to go fucking, you know, I want to go deep and shoot the devil, you know?
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Yeah, and it's a pretty, it's just a pretty, obviously, it's a, California's a pretty liberal state, you know?
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And so I was, like, really shocked when, when it was hard to get in over at you guys' place.
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You know, there was just such a, there was, like, a waiting period to get in, you know?
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It's just, and then they had just made a law or passed some sort of ruling that you guys weren't even going to be allowed to sell guns anymore.
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Yeah, the, the governor, Gavin Newsom, extremely anti-gun, and the sheriff of Los Angeles County, at one point both declared that, that gun stores should be closed down and that they're not essential.
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That's because they were pretty much seeing the giant rush on gun stores.
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However, I believe they were flooded with a bunch of lawsuits, like constitutional lawsuits, like, oh, well, that's, you know, trumping our Second Amendment, right?
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I know our, I know the Turner's location in Oxnard, they were, they were shut down by the, by the police there because, by the, by the sheriff there because of their orders for their county.
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But LA County is not one of those counties, surprisingly.
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Does it, does it worry you, like, that there's going to be a lot more guns, like, flooding, like, even just driving around?
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Are you thinking, like, oh, shit, now there's a lot more fucktards with guns?
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Yeah, I mean, I've thought, I've thought about it.
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That's always been, that's always been a part of American life, man.
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They've always been here since the, since the Big Bang Theory.
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Well, the Big Bang Theory, if you think about that, I mean, America started with a, you know, I mean, or the world started with chaos.
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Yeah, a fucking, somebody setting it off, you know.
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Yeah, dude, somebody just, yeah, the pin hitting the frickin' firing pin in the primer, there it is.
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See, you can't be shocked if somebody else wants to do it.
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If somebody wants to Big Bang at somebody fucking running through the yard at night.
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And if you ever shot a gun, man, I mean, a lot of people that are there, anti-gun, have never fired a weapon.
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It captures, it captures your kind of, the kind of visceral need for, for destruction in a way.
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Well, I've said this before, and, you know, I had a buddy who said that he killed, he killed someone.
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And he said that, he said it was, he said it was awesome.
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You know, and I'm not saying, I don't condone what he said.
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And I'm not saying he should have done it or any shit like that, but he did, I trust some of his belief, you know, it's not his belief, but I trust some of his, I trust his own evaluation of what occurred.
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Yeah, I got a lot of buddies in the military, man, and they haven't seen any combat yet, and they're just training, and, you know, they're all, a lot of them are infantrymen, and they're getting into it, you know, but they tell me about it, and they're my age, and all they want to do is go fight.
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All they want to do is go fight, and, I mean, I can't say I don't understand it.
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It's a, people, you know, people my age, young men for the history of the human race, man, have been wanting to go to war.
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Yeah, there's something about, I was talking about this last week on the podcast, that there's something about us that has, like, a thing of, like, anarchy, that I noticed, like, this pandemic starts to, like, it starts to light that fuse a little bit.
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Like, what if we all got to go back to the Wild West days, you know, like, what if, you know, suddenly, like, the services in society that we're in, it starts to break down.
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I think there are some people who not only would like to have that, a little bit of that Grand Theft Auto type of lifestyle, but then also some people who want to just be prepared for it.
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Like, you don't want to show up, you know, you don't want to show up really late to saving yourself, you know, and being prepared.
00:28:45.640
Because once shit hits the fan, you're not going to be able to get a gun, there won't be gun stores open, you know what I'm saying?
00:28:50.500
Like, if things get really bad, like, things aren't going to be open, it's not going to be available.
00:28:54.940
You're not going to be able to go to your neighbor, like, hey, give me a gun.
00:28:57.260
They're like, nah, I'm going to shoot you so I can run the building.
00:29:02.080
Yeah, I mean, that's why my whole family lives on one block, you know what I mean?
00:29:06.840
There's a lot of firepower right there, you know, centrally located.
00:29:12.940
I mean, you have a lot of people that kind of have that hunger for chaos, you know?
00:29:20.540
It's so, everything, I mean, it's so complicated.
00:29:22.800
Our lives, it's all social media and all going to work on time and all that, and I feel like people are getting kind of sick of it, and eventually they just kind of want to, they kind of just want that chaos to boil over, man.
00:29:33.040
It just gives them a little bit of time of relief, I guess.
00:29:36.180
A lot of human beings that wants some sort of chaos, and then if they don't, at least wants to be prepared for it, at least recognizes that it's in other people.
00:29:49.400
I mean, even if you look back in the Bible, man, which is, you know, I mean, it's a hit or miss book, but if you, like Cain and Abel, they had four people in the world, and one of them killed the other one.
00:30:01.040
Adam, Eve, Cain, Abel, fucking Abel killed Cain, I think, or one of them.
00:30:04.300
But, dude, at that point, when you think about that, there's four people.
00:30:12.280
There's finally four of us, and one of them's like, nah.
00:30:30.340
Because yes, we Cain, I remember seeing those bumper stickers growing up.
00:30:34.160
Like, if your brother gets out of line, yes, we Cain.
00:30:38.160
But so, yeah, I just think there's inherently, there's something in us that makes us want to
00:30:42.160
And so when this shit starts to happen, you get people, it lights that fuse, it lights
00:30:46.200
that limbic part of their brain that's like, how am I going to take care of myself?
00:30:54.840
And if you think about it, like what time in history in the U.S. captures people's imagination
00:31:01.680
Hey, you're in the saloon, someone looks at your girl, you shoot them.
00:31:04.900
If someone disagrees that you lost a poker game, shoot them.
00:31:07.660
You know, you see someone out there, take his stuff, kill his horse.
00:31:10.940
Well, that, see, the third part I don't like as much.
00:31:13.440
The first two I could definitely, I would sit on a trial for.
00:31:18.240
The third one, I'm like, I'm not even signing up for this.
00:31:22.860
Well, if you're hungry, man, I think, if you're real hungry, dude, yeah.
00:31:27.180
Look, I've told you before, I'd eat a neighbor, I'd eat somebody.
00:31:33.980
So I'm not afraid to go down that, you know, that, uh, that kind of, you know, pallet path.
00:31:39.160
You know, I'm not afraid to fucking eat somebody.
00:31:42.680
Yeah, I almost ate a bit into a fucking Vietnamese guy at a damn Best Buy.
00:31:49.560
If you're talking about real starvation, bro, because you gotta think, if shit goes
00:31:56.820
Immediately, it's like, okay, things are gonna get weird quick.
00:32:00.580
Like, if society started to break down, right, nobody's been picking up trash.
00:32:08.740
Everything's, nobody's, uh, who knows if clean water plants and that sort of stuff
00:32:20.800
So suddenly, like, shitting your apartment building is gonna start to become, like, a little
00:32:24.640
bit of, I don't think everybody's like, hey, let's be on the same team and team up together.
00:32:29.840
I mean, I was just, uh, I just came back from the Philippines, man.
00:32:36.500
Everyone kind of sees each other like a big family.
00:32:43.320
I, I feel like you'll have a lot of people that are trying to, like, work together.
00:32:49.220
You know, they're, they're looking out for themselves.
00:32:51.620
I think in a city, you're, you're dealing with that.
00:32:53.660
Like, I think if once I got out to like a, more of a rural environment or something,
00:32:58.160
and you have a bit of land, you have some space where you can see, okay,
00:33:01.640
if there's people out on the Ponderosa or what's going on,
00:33:04.200
you have animals that are around that you could trust to go out and get a little bit of light intel
00:33:12.680
You have a fucking cow that could recon out there and then shake that bell if shit's fucking getting wiry.
00:33:20.880
Like, oh, I knew those motherfuckers were out there, man.
00:33:23.660
But I'm saying you could send a little shepherd, you know,
00:33:26.020
you could send a little German shepherd out there or a British shepherd or anything.
00:33:30.580
I'm just, yeah, it's a, but I don't think I want to be the guy sitting on my porch without a weapon.
00:33:37.240
Yeah, I mean, you definitely don't want to be the guy that's unarmed in that situation, right?
00:33:40.380
I mean, without a weapon, you're, I mean, I don't think anything's going to get that bad.
00:33:46.600
But if shit goes down the drain, you do not want to be the guy that's unarmed.
00:33:50.760
It's like, it's like being in, it's like you're being in prison and you're not like one of those like racial gangs yet.
00:33:56.260
It's like showing up in prison without a butthole.
00:34:01.280
If you don't got a butthole, what are you doing?
00:34:02.880
Well, it's like, how are you going to, when everybody else has, you don't want to be the guy without a butthole.
00:34:08.940
Because you're not going to fucking last very long.
00:34:14.800
I just bought a gun, but my older brother has a gun.
00:34:22.360
So you have one gun between you and your brother.
00:34:29.360
I have no guns, but I want to, but it sounds like a hassle.
00:34:42.660
And then I wonder if, but at a certain point, do you worry that they would shut down the gun stores?
00:34:53.320
Have you had people come to buy a weapon and you're like, and you knew that they were going to use it for a crime?
00:35:02.960
Sometimes you get those precarious characters in, you know?
00:35:05.960
And they come in like, hey, man, I'm looking for a pocket 9mm.
00:35:11.660
And we do sell small, you know, concealable handguns.
00:35:14.760
And they're like, oh, okay, yeah, let me see that.
00:35:16.340
And then they don't want to know about the specs.
00:35:22.540
And then they're like, they just put it in their pocket.
00:35:24.200
I'm just like, and I'm just like, I'm like, hey, man, like, can you not put it in your pocket?
00:35:27.440
He's just like, hey, I'm just seeing, like, if it fits.
00:35:31.140
And then, like, I saw a dude one time, he put it in his pocket, and he pulls it out and
00:35:34.100
draws it, like, on the table, right at my chest.
00:35:38.960
I mean, we got guns pointed at us all day over there.
00:35:40.520
Right, I pointed at you on accident a couple times, remember?
00:35:43.120
Listen, I've had, I mean, we have time for people pointing shotguns, 12-gauge shotguns
00:35:55.040
They're like, pretend you work at a bank, and you're like, uh, what do you want to do?
00:35:59.060
Oh, dude, man, when I was, like, 18, I worked at Big Five, you know?
00:36:03.060
And I was there, and we sell BB guns at Big Five, BB handguns.
00:36:07.980
And I remember these two brothers came in, and they came in there, and they're looking,
00:36:11.380
and they're, you know, they smell like weed, and they're like, oh, yeah, man, I'm looking
00:36:20.620
And I'm just like, oh, you guys, like, what are you guys doing with it?
00:36:24.220
And then, like, as a joke, he points it at his friend in his head.
00:36:28.960
He's like, he's like, run me them shoes, motherfucker!
00:36:34.500
And, like, these guys are, like, just your use of BB guns.
00:36:45.920
If you had somebody come in, and you knew, have you ever had somebody straight up tell
00:36:50.280
you, like, don't sell me a gun because I'm going to kill somebody?
00:36:52.900
No, but, I mean, you know, we have to ask those questions.
00:36:55.040
Like, I asked you, Theo, like, hey, man, you ever, you know, there's four questions
00:36:59.300
that you have to ask, and then you have the whole list, you know?
00:37:01.540
When they're filling out the paperwork, and they're asking if you're a convicted felon,
00:37:07.880
They're like, what if I was convicted, but it wasn't, like, a violent felony?
00:37:17.920
Like, if you've been convicted of a felony, unless it's been completely, like, acquitted,
00:37:21.500
you know, unless you've been completely, like, found non-guilty of the crime,
00:37:23.880
like, you haven't been convicted, then if you, I mean, if you're a convicted felon,
00:37:28.360
we can't sell you a gun for the rest of your life.
00:37:49.400
It took me longer than most people to take the test, I feel like.
00:37:52.380
It took you a while, man, but you're making jokes while you were doing it, too, man.
00:37:55.900
I remember everyone was laughing when you were taking the test, but you were saying some funny shit.
00:37:59.320
Well, I was trying to sneakily get information out of people, too.
00:38:01.600
I was trying to start a little conversation, then see if somebody would drop a little hint
00:38:05.040
of intel, because some of the questions were a little bit tough, I felt like.
00:38:13.120
You can take a practice test, like California FSC practice test, and they'll have some
00:38:21.200
It's funny, because people get the same ones wrong all the time.
00:38:23.700
It's always the same questions that they get wrong.
00:38:26.080
It was, some of it was tough for me, the age at which you can buy a firearm.
00:38:32.020
It's 21 for long guns and handguns in California.
00:38:34.500
It used to be 18 for long guns, 21 for handguns.
00:38:36.800
They changed that, I believe, 2019, January 1st, 2019.
00:38:42.900
Is it legal to store a loaded firearm in the premises where children have access to?
00:38:54.560
What is not a part of a cartridge or a shotgun shell?
00:39:04.840
What types of sight do the handgun shooters use?
00:39:17.360
A sale or transfer of a firearm between two private parties must be completed through a licensed firearms
00:39:21.820
dealer only if the buyer and seller do not personally know each other.
00:39:26.680
It must be completed between a licensed dealer no matter what.
00:39:31.780
That's the one most people get wrong during the FSC.
00:39:34.260
So if I want to sell a friend a gun, I want to sell Gianni or Nick a gun, I have to go
00:39:42.040
Tell them you want to do a private party transfer.
00:39:45.520
We pretty much get both of you guys' information.
00:39:48.760
The gun is then legally transferred over to the person that you're selling it to.
00:39:52.380
The money doesn't go through us or anything like that.
00:39:58.160
Within 10 days, the buyer can come pick it up and that's it.
00:40:04.300
And if I sell it to Gianni just without going through a licensed dealer, then there's a felony.
00:40:12.420
Is that just in California or is that everywhere?
00:40:14.080
Some states do not have, there's no need for a background check for a private party.
00:40:21.160
I mean, you'll have like videos of people buying guns in like a McDonald's bathroom.
00:40:35.320
Generally, it is legal to carry a concealed firearm in public under which of the following circumstances?
00:40:40.240
You're an experienced gun handler and know all the safety rules.
00:40:43.260
You are honorably discharged from the military.
00:40:49.040
Is legal to carry a firearm in public under which of the following circumstances?
00:41:00.980
Yeah, it's hard to get a concealed carry license in California, man.
00:41:05.680
L.A. County, nearly impossible unless you know somebody.
00:41:10.080
The first cartridge loaded into a magazine presses against the...
00:41:19.680
I would go with magazine spring, but I have no idea.
00:41:24.520
Yeah, the follower is a little piece of plastic or metal that's in front of the magazine spring
00:41:32.540
But these are some of the questions that are on there.
00:41:35.600
Smokeless plowed or black powder, that wasn't on there.
00:41:38.760
I feel like this might be an old version of the test or something, but some of the questions
00:41:43.440
Do you see any of these that are the actual test?
00:41:47.180
Yeah, a few of them we went through are on the actual test.
00:41:53.680
I actually, like, I owned about more than 10 guns without ever taking the FSC test.
00:41:59.600
Because before, I mean, you can buy guns if you have a hunting license.
00:42:02.460
They just played with the law a little bit now, but you can buy long guns at 18 still
00:42:11.560
I mean, I got a hunting license when I was like 12, right?
00:42:14.160
But so when I turned 18 with my hunting license, I was able to buy a bunch of long guns.
00:42:18.280
So I never even took that test until I actually started working there.
00:42:23.580
Because that's a new law, you have to take that test?
00:42:26.540
That test also, when you're 21, you can buy a handgun.
00:42:30.040
And the hunting license does not apply to handguns.
00:42:34.540
For me to buy a handgun, I had to take that FSC test.
00:42:36.520
And then plus, I mean, I've graded 20 of them before I ever took the test.
00:42:57.980
If you're in a situation where you have to pull out a firearm and you're going to use
00:43:07.640
But if you're shooting someone in the leg, you're in a situation where you have the intention
00:43:12.380
to injure them, where you're trying to stop one of their behaviors by injury.
00:43:17.300
Especially in California and most states, when you're actually going to use a firearm on
00:43:21.440
somebody and you're not law enforcement, you're pulling out that gun.
00:43:24.820
That gun is coming out because your life is currently...
00:43:30.320
Or somebody in your house or someone, your family member...
00:43:36.540
Somebody in that house or somebody where you are is going to die or going to be grievously
00:43:45.220
So if you're using that gun, you're using it to put an immediate end to the fight.
00:43:50.780
And you have videos, all types of videos of people getting shot 15 times and they're still
00:43:55.500
doing what they're doing because none of the shots are lethal.
00:43:58.280
Well, they might be lethal eventually, but they're not immediately debilitating.
00:44:02.020
You got to turn the lights off if you're going to shoot.
00:44:09.220
I'd rather shoot somebody in the chest, I think, because I don't want to shoot somebody
00:44:12.360
in the face, you know, because I don't want to look at them in their face so fucked up.
00:44:18.840
And do you, have you ever seen anyone shoot somebody else?
00:44:31.060
Well, not like, I've never seen like a, okay, technically, yes, but not in a way where it
00:44:44.500
I mostly hunt birds because Southern California is the biggest kind of hunting season there
00:44:49.360
And if you're in these busy fields going dove hunting, there's people on the other side
00:44:52.440
of the field and they're shooting doves and all those pellets are flying in the air and
00:44:56.520
Like one time my dad shot me like pretty close.
00:45:00.620
But yeah, but it was a shotgun shooting tiny little bird shot.
00:45:07.660
But you know, hey man, accidents happen, especially when you're, you know, whipping birds flying around.
00:45:11.340
Especially when you're aiming at your fucking son, I bet.
00:45:14.200
You know, I kind of pissed him off that day, man.
00:45:16.080
Yeah, so I was thinking he kind of just wanted to punish me a little bit.
00:45:19.700
I was kind of at the age where he can't really smack me around anymore.
00:45:22.560
So he's just like, oh, I saw a quail over there.
00:45:25.780
I didn't see that fucking quail, but yeah, I mean.
00:45:27.900
He gets you a jacket that has four quails on the back of it?
00:45:37.600
But if you go dove hunting in a busy field, you will get shot with a shotgun.
00:45:44.240
I don't have any scars from it, but technically speaking, yeah, I've been hit with a projectile
00:45:50.580
Do you think that a lot of the people you've been selling guns to in this recent surge of
00:45:54.660
gun sales has been people that are more on the liberal side of politics?
00:46:02.560
A lot of people that I talked to were admittingly, and that's the thing, man.
00:46:09.020
I'm not big on that word liberal because in the class-
00:46:13.300
Just in the classical sense, liberal means like, oh, you believe in the freedom of the
00:46:27.500
A lot of people, admittingly, and you can kind of just tell just by the way they look
00:46:38.280
But a lot of them, admittingly, like, oh, I never thought I'd be buying a gun.
00:46:41.300
I never thought I'd be ever doing something like this, but here I am.
00:46:46.460
A lot of times, like, oh, first time gun buyer?
00:46:47.880
And I was trying to make conversation because we're doing paperwork.
00:46:53.200
And they're like, I'm just like, they're like, I don't even want a gun, man, but I feel
00:46:59.720
Yeah, it's interesting, man, because, I mean, I think it's even like how I felt a little
00:47:02.960
Like, I felt like I wanted to kind of have one for a little bit, but this was definitely
00:47:06.460
the, this, just the fear of the uncertainty of what's going to go on or what could
00:47:16.380
I resonate with that and I get it, but that was, that was most people that were buying
00:47:20.600
guns in this big surge, especially here in California.
00:47:28.120
How long do you think, so this 10 days has been a little long.
00:47:30.020
How long do you think that this thing's going to, I mean, you think it'll be another 10
00:47:33.840
Nah, they usually clear it up within 24 to 48 hours after the 10 days.
00:47:39.520
I mean, I had people like when the big rush yell at me because they didn't know it was a 10 day
00:47:48.020
I'll go through the whole paperwork and then I'll tell them, oh yeah, so here's your pickup
00:47:58.260
You know, 10 day waiting period here in California.
00:48:00.760
I had people like, there's not going to be a fucking city in 10 days, man.
00:48:10.560
I feel like it's like good until you realize it's not any fucking good.
00:48:14.700
But in the second season, they try to get a baby and they try to get it.
00:48:19.460
And the guy's like, no, we need this baby right now, dude.
00:48:22.900
What can you need a baby for an emergency, man?
00:48:32.660
It was kind of a part of a weird trade off or some shit.
00:48:35.280
I'll give you a baby if you launder this money for me, man.
00:48:38.960
I'll give you a million dollars, but give me your fucking baby, man.
00:48:52.620
Are there any people recently you're like, they shouldn't have a gun, but you?
00:49:00.140
I would say there's some people I feel like, not that they shouldn't have one, but I'm
00:49:04.040
like, they should really, they should really, you know, work on it if they're going to buy
00:49:09.700
Like they should really work on their skills and their capability of manipulating the
00:49:17.560
So I really highly, I mean, I always tell them I highly recommend training, highly recommend
00:49:21.000
when you get the firearm, keep the ammunition away from it and just learn how the gun works.
00:49:27.960
If you watch somewhere on the, you know, anything on the internet like that, you can learn a
00:49:32.680
That's where I learned a lot of the information I have about firearms.
00:49:34.880
I learned through the internet or reading books.
00:49:41.640
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So, gunsmithing pretty much entails repairs, modifications, custom builds.
00:52:24.380
I'm really like, I really like old guns, military surplus stuff.
00:52:27.640
So, whenever we get old guns in there, that's like really my thing.
00:52:35.680
I mean, I like Confederate stuff because it's got a richer history in terms of firearm stuff.
00:52:39.940
You know, they had less of a manufacturing base back in the Civil War.
00:52:44.000
But, a lot of World War II pieces, you know, military surplus stuff.
00:52:51.860
Just even old, just like old hunting rifles that are out of production are just cool in general.
00:53:02.340
And you said it was like one of the most popular.
00:53:12.460
U.S. Army, Marine Corps, the Navy as well, Air Force.
00:53:15.980
Pretty much the entire aspect of the U.S. military.
00:53:21.820
You know, first manufactured in Italy, but the one you guys made in the U.S.
00:53:27.800
All metal, all steel frame, all steel slide, single double action.
00:53:33.140
Yeah, I mean, it's pretty much, it's the Bruce Willis of guns.
00:53:37.360
And single double action means that you pull the trigger.
00:53:41.380
If the hammer's down, it's a long, heavy trigger pull because that trigger, mechanically speaking, has to pull that hammer back and then drop it.
00:53:47.400
But after the gun fires and the slide works back and then forward again, that's automatically going to push the hammer to the rear.
00:53:53.960
So now it's just a short, easy, light trigger pull just to drop that hammer, and that makes the gun a lot easier to shoot.
00:54:03.820
You get some men that come in and their arms are almost too weak to hold up a gun and they still, and you still have to sell them a gun?
00:54:09.420
I mean, if they want a specific gun, then they got it.
00:54:12.480
I mean, I remember I had a little, I had a while ago, I had a, for the whole rush, I had a, I had like an 85-year-old African-American woman.
00:54:21.840
And she was with a cane, you know, just, just frail.
00:54:25.180
And she came and she's like, young man, I'm looking for a double-barrel shotgun.
00:54:29.260
I was like, yeah, okay, we actually, we got double-barrel shotguns.
00:54:31.600
I put one in her hands and she's like, oh, it's too heavy.
00:54:36.560
So I actually got her a little Ruger, like a LCR.
00:54:39.880
It's a polymer frame revolver, super lightweight.
00:54:43.740
But there's a lot of misconceptions around guns, you know, but most people's basis of gun knowledge is going to come from the media.
00:54:50.460
It's going to come from movies, video games, TV shows, and they are notoriously bad at giving out accurate information about firearms.
00:55:01.180
Have you had people come in and say, I want the gun that's in this game?
00:55:08.760
They're like, they're like, they're like, hey, what is, what's that on the wall?
00:55:13.500
You know, it's a sweet, decked out looking little submachine gun.
00:55:18.600
It's semi-automatic because we're not getting, yeah, there you go.
00:55:24.920
And it's like, oh, yeah, man, I used to run that thing in Call of Duty, man.
00:55:31.300
All types of, yeah, or just like, I mean, I had a dude come in there, didn't know anything about guns.
00:55:36.900
He was a rich guy, you know, he came up in a Porsche.
00:55:39.480
He was like, I'm looking for the revolver that Dirty Harry used.
00:55:42.560
And then Dirty Harry, I'm like, all right, like the one, like, you know, Clint Eastwood used.
00:55:48.660
I'm like, all right, it's a Smith & Wesson Model 29.
00:56:00.820
So, it's just amazing to me that someone sees it in a video game or something, like, oh, now I've got to have this.
00:56:07.960
Especially if it's a game from, like, Grand Theft Auto, because you're driving around with that.
00:56:11.000
Yeah, yeah, on your lap, man, just shooting motherfuckers.
00:56:15.840
Do you, have you ever sold a gun that was used in a crime or murder?
00:56:21.640
We do get, like, police trade-in guns, and it's not unheard of for police departments to have to pick up guns.
00:56:30.060
They pick up guns in crimes, and then they pretty much clear the crime out, but they still have the firearm that they confiscated off somebody.
00:56:37.760
And then they'll resell it to gun stores, and the gun stores will sell it used for a cheap price.
00:56:42.380
So, there's plenty of guns out there that have, I'm sure they have some bodies on them.
00:56:49.080
Oh, yeah, I've seen it in, I think, in Call of Duty.
00:56:57.700
The one I had was manufactured in China, but it's a cool rifle.
00:57:12.320
So, some veteran was in Vietnam, probably smoked some Vietnamese dude, had an SKS, and then took it home when he came back from the war.
00:57:30.560
I mean, that thing was probably, like, you know, early stage of Vietnam War, you know?
00:57:39.340
The gun was invented by a Russian inventor, Siminov.
00:57:44.100
But then, you know how the Russians are, you know, they're communists in the Soviet Union.
00:57:47.600
So, all of their designs, after they kind of were, like, declared antiquated, they kind of just spread it around the, you know, the socialist united world.
00:57:55.200
And so, China pretty much got the manufacturing rights to make these, and the Chinese loved them, and they made them in the millions.
00:58:00.840
There's millions of these things around the world right now.
00:58:11.400
And they have an old Chinese SKS over their shoulder.
00:58:16.880
Isn't it interesting, like, so much of that, of the firearms trade that goes on, it's unbelievable.
00:58:23.940
I mean, whatever you think is going on commercially in the U.S., just think under the table internationally.
00:58:30.240
I mean, you have countries that you wouldn't even expect, like HK in Germany, massive firearms producer.
00:58:35.380
They sold, I think, like, 20,000 G3 rifles to Saudi Arabia.
00:58:40.280
And then all of a sudden, they found a bunch of these rifles in the hands of ISIS in Syria.
00:58:46.300
Or they found them in these militia groups, you know, al-Nusra in Syria.
00:58:49.760
And they have all these G3 rifles that were just sent to Saudi Arabia.
00:58:54.020
So there's actually, like, a lot of international organizations that kind of track where these things show up.
00:59:00.000
I mean, there's pictures of, like, the conflict in Syria, the Civil War, where they're driving a Panzer IV from World War II, a German tank.
00:59:06.780
You know, it's like, where the fuck did they get that shit?
00:59:13.280
Dude, there's pictures of fucking ISIS driving old Ford Tauruses as well, dude.
00:59:17.240
But I'm just saying there's such a, there's such, like, a secondary market that, it's so funny, like, how on the surface would be like, you know, no guns, no guns, no guns.
00:59:25.600
And then if you go and look at how America makes money, one of the ways is through selling firearms to different countries.
00:59:35.860
If you think about the military industrial complex, we're talking weapon systems.
00:59:39.860
I mean, fighter jets, missiles, things that one single F-35, right, Lightning II, pretty much our newest fifth generation multi-role jet.
00:59:49.240
I mean, they're worth fucking billions of dollars, just the whole program itself, and they're sent and they're sold to all these countries in NATO, and, I mean, all these weapon systems just end up in the hands of all types of people.
01:00:01.620
It's, the weapons trade, not just small arms, not just machine guns and rifles and pistols.
01:00:08.760
Intercontinental ballistic missiles, old submarines, ships, everything, everything.
01:00:12.760
The defense industry internationally, and even under the table, is fucking monumental.
01:00:19.040
Do you think any guns are unnecessary, like, for normal people to have?
01:00:23.060
Or are you just like, I think everybody should have everything.
01:00:31.860
Like, you have, in certain states and stuff, given certain licensing, which apparently isn't terribly hard to get,
01:00:39.340
uh, you can get, like, an old Soviet artillery gun, and there's people, private owners that own tanks with live guns in them, 75-millimeter cannons, uh, machine guns.
01:00:51.080
I don't think anyone should be barred from owning those things, but I understand the licensing required to have something destructive.
01:00:59.840
That's what the ATF calls certain things, just destructive devices, quote-unquote.
01:01:03.520
So, and, uh, and these firearms, I mean, not even firearms, but you have these, you have weapons that are devastating.
01:01:11.360
And I, I can understand the logic of, like, yeah, maybe we shouldn't give, you know, like, uh, inner city crime gangs RPGs, right?
01:01:21.820
However, I think if you're, if you're a law, like, a law-abiding owner, and you can use those things responsibly,
01:01:27.860
I don't think there should be limitations on what you can get, especially because it's a slippery slope.
01:01:33.140
Right, but it did, but then also, like, imagine if the guy who, like, shoots up the Las Vegas, you know.
01:01:44.660
I suppose, I mean, it would fire a rocket, right?
01:01:47.120
I mean, he did, he did plenty of damage with, uh, AR-15 anyway.
01:01:53.160
I don't know what he, I don't know what he used to, I think a lot of AR-15s is what they say.
01:02:05.780
Because, so, in addition to the Beretta, what is the other piece of gun that I bought?
01:02:11.460
So, what I mentioned earlier is that the only, the only, the only,
01:02:16.860
The only serialized part of that, yeah, there you go.
01:02:24.380
It's a piece of aluminum with holes in it, okay?
01:02:29.340
So, I had to get, I had to buy this piece in order to be able to have this.
01:02:32.980
Yeah, and the one you, the one you got cost you about 40 bucks.
01:02:36.400
Um, and then now I can build the, have the rest of it built.
01:02:38.920
Every, all the other parts, trigger, internal parts, kits, trigger group, buffer tube,
01:02:43.560
the upper receiver, the barrel, everything you need on that gun, you can order it online
01:02:48.360
Given you have a little bit of know-how and some simple tools, we'll throw it together
01:02:53.820
It's not, it's not like a loophole or anything.
01:03:00.160
They're, uh, AR-15s are probably the coolest rifles you can get your hands on, in my opinion,
01:03:05.460
I mean, they're kind of like, it's, it's like the, the Ford F-150 of guns, you know?
01:03:16.980
Uh, yeah, man, they're the most, they're the most popular rifle in the United States.
01:03:20.300
Uh, semi-automatic, shoots a very controllable, easy, easy to use cartridge.
01:03:26.380
How many shoots can I do at once in this, with this?
01:03:28.660
Depends, depends on the size of the magazine you have inside of the gun, but swapping a magazine
01:03:33.680
So, a standard capacity magazine throughout the country is 30 rounds.
01:03:37.020
That's what, like, the military uses on their ARs.
01:03:39.060
California, they'll limit 10 rounds per magazine.
01:03:41.740
Uh, but, I mean, they make 60-round drum magazines, uh, 100-round drum magazines for them.
01:03:58.020
Your pistol's supposed to hold, uh, what, 15 rounds in the magazine?
01:04:05.380
10 rounds limit for whatever gun in California.
01:04:09.100
If you can't get it done in 10, you deserve to die, I think.
01:04:14.660
Like, if you can't get it done in 10 shots, you fucking...
01:04:22.320
You fucking blew out your fucking bedroom wall.
01:04:25.640
Never knocked out every streetlight on your block, man.
01:04:32.580
You're the one really causing the most trouble at that point.
01:04:35.040
I just don't like it because I don't like the government telling me how many rounds they think
01:04:40.240
Police officers don't need to follow that rule.
01:04:44.580
You drive five hours away, and they're 200-round, belt-fed fucking machine guns over there.
01:04:50.960
I mean, with a machine gun, yeah, given the licensing.
01:04:53.260
But the magazine capacity is not limited in most states.
01:04:56.300
I believe California, I believe Massachusetts, New York, a few other states have magazine
01:05:02.720
See, it's funny because I believe that people...
01:05:04.460
I believe that some semi-automatic weapons people shouldn't have, you know?
01:05:07.900
I believe that people shouldn't be able to just rattle off 700 rounds.
01:05:12.280
But then here I am buying a semi-automatic weapon.
01:05:18.700
And one's a quite capable rifle, and the other one's a very well-loved and well-used semi-automatic
01:05:31.760
I mean, once they're all done, I'm taking you out, and we're going to the range.
01:05:38.840
I just don't want to fucking shoot somebody or myself, dude.
01:05:51.940
Do you have a feeling in your life that you'll ever shoot someone?
01:06:09.840
Given the situation now, I would say it's not terribly unlikely.
01:06:13.660
I knew this old dude, and he shot some people that broke into his house, and he was telling
01:06:30.560
The only situation I see myself doing that is, like, someone trying to kill me in my house,
01:06:42.800
Like, it's one of my favorite hobbies in the world.
01:06:49.720
Yeah, I want to get into some more of these types of things.
01:06:51.180
You know, that's why I'm excited to get out to the range.
01:06:53.680
I mean, I did notice immediately whenever you started to teach me, even in the store,
01:06:57.060
about how to load the gun, unload the gun, like the steps to go through.
01:07:01.120
By the end of that, I felt five times more confident, even just picking the gun up.
01:07:08.480
And, like, I just felt a lot more like, okay, now I have some education that goes along with this thing.
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It's not just an errant thing that could just kill me at any moment.
01:07:16.080
Like, now I understand, okay, this is how it behaves.
01:07:24.240
So it was really interesting to me just to notice how immediately when I had that education, it really adjusted the way that the gun felt to me.
01:07:33.880
People talk about accidental shootings and then how dangerous guns can be in the home, but if you have the experience and the knowledge and the know-how and the confidence to utilize that firearm confidently, there's no chance of it injuring you or anyone else.
01:07:49.340
Because if you followed all the proper protocols, it's an inanimate object just like anything else.
01:07:53.360
It's going to hurt you as much as this glass bottle will.
01:07:58.240
The only thing that gives it the capability of being lethal is somebody either making a mistake or someone using it with malintention.
01:08:07.280
Do you feel like if as the fear of the pandemic and stuff goes away that you'll see a resurgence of people selling their guns back?
01:08:15.640
I think a lot of people are just buying them and they don't know what the hell they're going to do with them.
01:08:18.260
And I think as soon as they have the opportunity to get rid of it, I think the used gun market after all this is over is going to be booming.
01:08:23.660
And where does the used gun market send guns to?
01:08:28.400
I mean, there's a lot of forums online where they're, oh, hey, I'm selling this gun.
01:08:34.820
A lot of times people are like, hey, I just want to get rid of the gun.
01:08:36.580
I don't care about finding someone willing to buy it.
01:08:38.580
So they sell it to gun stores and then the gun stores will resell them for profit.
01:08:42.420
Have you ever sold a gun to a guy with like teardrop tattoos by his eye or not?
01:08:47.780
I mean, hey, if they pass the background check, who am I to say that they can't own the gun?
01:08:53.540
Well, I have the ability to choose who I sell a gun to.
01:08:57.560
I can say, no, I'm not going to sell you a gun.
01:08:59.560
But I mean, I'm not trying to cause those issues.
01:09:03.420
And that kind of ability, that kind of mindset can lead to people being, you know, using that to pretty much, you know, be racist or something.
01:09:13.000
If they see someone, oh, I don't, let's say I don't like, I don't like Asian people.
01:09:16.460
Oh, I'm not going to sell any Asian people a gun.
01:09:26.840
You're just working at a place that sells guns.
01:09:30.100
But like you said, I mean, if somebody's high, you can not sell them a gun.
01:09:33.600
That, that, that comes down to, that just comes down to the law.
01:09:35.920
If I, if I can literally smell marijuana, I can get in trouble for selling them or even serving them or even putting a gun in their hands.
01:09:42.260
If they smell like marijuana, which I think is crazy, but that's just the rules.
01:09:47.320
Have you ever had a person where you're like, you had to ask them, like, are you planning on killing somebody with this gun?
01:09:54.020
Would you do it if you felt compelled to do it?
01:09:56.880
I'm, I'm, I'm pretty, I'm pretty outspoken at the, at the story of a lot of people that are kind of shy that work there.
01:10:00.900
But yeah, I mean, I'm, you know, I like to crack jokes there and stuff.
01:10:08.060
So yeah, I felt way more machismo once I got in there.
01:10:11.760
They got all kinds of stuff, little buckets you could sit on.
01:10:14.700
They got those, all type of fishing stuff, nets, you could catch stuff.
01:10:19.080
They had gloves for all type of different things you could do with gloves.
01:10:29.220
That's the fucking, that's the mecca right there, man.
01:10:41.960
Has anyone ever tried to rob your store or have you ever heard of anyone trying to rob
01:10:47.580
I've asked, I've asked that question to my manager and apparently our location was robbed
01:10:53.560
Dude is just like, there's a lot of gun stores, especially more like family, not family oriented,
01:10:58.000
but like smaller businesses where the people in there are armed and most of those places
01:11:04.260
Turner's is a corporation and due to, I guess, insurance purposes, they don't want us to be
01:11:12.580
Well, we're not, we're not armed in the store at all over there.
01:11:15.520
So how quickly could you reach for an arm though?
01:11:18.720
We can get a gun, but I mean, we don't have loaded magazines or ammunition on us, nor
01:11:22.900
would we terribly be inclined to retaliate considering if someone's in there ready to rob a gun store,
01:11:29.220
they probably don't give a fuck and they probably got guns ready to rock and roll.
01:11:32.420
So if we're not, if we're in a position where we're already at a deficit just due to the
01:11:36.500
fact that we don't have loaded weapons on us, retaliation is probably not the best
01:11:45.640
Why would someone rob a gun store for a gun if they have a gun?
01:11:48.740
Well, they get, well, they, yeah, they have a gun, but then they can just go in there
01:11:54.580
They fucking break in the glass and they, if they steal a bunch of guns, then fuck, man.
01:11:59.400
Is there a method of that micro stamping you think that could be, could work?
01:12:04.900
Cause some of it does seem a little bit archaic when you think about it, that you have this
01:12:08.420
gun, you have this bullet that they, that there isn't a way to definitely track and know
01:12:16.720
Um, just because we have so much technology now, right?
01:12:20.720
I can, I can see micro stamping maybe working in the way where you will be at, you'll have
01:12:27.580
However, practically speaking, um, that would, that would significantly increase the price
01:12:36.200
I mean, you, I mean, it's really easy to scratch out the serial number of a gun, right?
01:12:40.340
It's really easy to scratch out a mic, like something like micro stamping.
01:12:44.980
And it even says that, that the micro stamping wears out, that it's not, it just wears out
01:12:49.520
So imagine if I intentionally try to get rid of it or if I just replaced the part that
01:12:56.300
I'm just wondering what the, you know, what the technology is that will allow you to,
01:13:04.440
You know, micro stamping seems like it's like an attempt at that.
01:13:11.720
um, do you feel like everyone should be able to own a gun?
01:13:21.440
Unless you're mentally incompetent or a hardened criminal, I would say yes.
01:13:26.000
I would say, yeah, everyone should have the ability to, unless you're, I mean, just completely
01:13:31.760
I mean, it's, it's, I don't necessarily see it as a right that's, that's given to us.
01:13:35.500
It's a right that a human being should have inherently.
01:13:39.900
People say like, Oh, these rights, these rights are God given.
01:13:42.340
I'm not religious at all, but I feel like, you know, I believe people.
01:13:47.620
I feel like people should have inherent rights, man.
01:13:49.580
Like if you're just a human being, you have the, you know, you have freedom of speech.
01:14:00.480
You should be able to have a tool to protect your life and the life of people around you.
01:14:05.240
So I, yeah, I think if, unless you're completely mentally incompetent or, or a hardened, dangerous
01:14:11.920
criminal, then yeah, everyone should have the red tone of gun.
01:14:18.200
Do you wish that we had a world that somebody has just never invented guns?
01:14:25.100
However, admittingly, things would be, I would say less lethal if, if there was no guns, but
01:14:33.580
for a much longer period than guns have ever existed, there's still been massive war and
01:14:44.280
I mean, people, I mean, they would ride horses with, you know, lances on them and go and stab
01:14:53.660
They have, I mean, even the mayor of Baltimore announced that, had to ask people to stop
01:14:57.540
killing each other so they could save the hospitals for COVID patients, for Corvid.
01:15:07.860
So yeah, people love to, yeah, Baltimore mayor begs residents to stop shooting each other
01:15:13.240
so hospital beds can be used for coronavirus patients.
01:15:18.060
I also think it was, who came out, I think it was the mayor of Dallas.
01:15:20.940
He was saying that, oh, like, like criminals, like chill.
01:15:24.560
Criminals take it easy because like, like we all just want to go home at the end of the
01:15:32.280
I actually, before this, I was having Easter brunch with a friend of mine.
01:15:35.880
His stepfather is a, a California highway patrolman.
01:15:44.520
And he was telling me that crime is down except for auto theft.
01:15:56.680
And I guess if you're a burglar, you got to do something.
01:16:00.620
If you're, if you're, if you're living that life.
01:16:04.860
I just found it so interesting, Nico, that I, cause I came in and you just knew so much about
01:16:08.060
weapons and, and I was like, man, this is kind of fascinating.
01:16:16.440
I was kind of glad I finally felt like at least confident and adult enough within myself
01:16:21.040
to be like, okay, I can have a gun in my house.
01:16:23.320
And I'm not going to shoot a buddy or something for fun.
01:16:29.500
And then you said, man, there's just so many people buying guns right now.
01:16:32.100
And it was just really interesting to me, you know, in a state that, you know,
01:16:34.700
a lot of times you hear a lot of people like no guns, no guns.
01:16:37.760
And then this type of, uh, we get into this core of it and everybody's gunning out.
01:16:43.420
I mean, just the, just the numbers are mind blowing.
01:16:51.620
Do you sell a lot of, uh, Kevlar and stuff like that with them or often or no?
01:16:56.840
Uh, we do have like some plate carriers that we sell there that allow you to insert a
01:17:01.880
plate armor inside of the, uh, the vest, but we, we're not a, we're not an armor retailer.
01:17:07.160
Um, I don't really know if that's up for private sale in California.
01:17:12.700
And what about flares, nades, anything like that?
01:17:17.440
But now we don't, uh, explosives not going to happen.
01:17:22.600
We actually talked about grenades when you came in.
01:17:29.340
I was in, I was in Cambodia and I was with my, my cousin.
01:17:32.520
Oh, you could throw a fucking grenade over there.
01:17:37.240
We're in this little, we were in this little tiny, uh, we're in this little tiny village
01:17:43.820
And they were there and they were, and they, you guys were asking us like, oh yeah, but
01:17:49.100
You know, we're, no one's in the military who I'm with, but they were like, oh yeah,
01:18:02.820
I kind of wish, I kind of wish that we did, but they were like, oh yeah, you can throw
01:18:07.480
But Cambodia had a massive, you know, genocide.
01:18:28.100
You know, a basic nade don't really fucking do that much.
01:18:32.200
It's just, it's just really, it's just really a pop, man.
01:18:34.160
Like a lot of people see grenades in movies, you know, they see an action movie and they
01:18:40.360
But it's really a pretty small amount of explosives.
01:18:52.880
I mean, well, they're not, they're very lethal, but they're not like massive explosions.
01:19:12.180
Damn, dude, you gotta throw it further than that dude.
01:19:35.640
You know, it used to be eight seconds on a grenade.
01:19:54.200
I want to say it was during like a French war or something.
01:19:58.840
That's so interesting how they could make it, you know, like the time like that.
01:20:10.480
The first, the first like, well, like really widespread used grenades.
01:20:22.740
That's what it would have, those guys are probably in Cambodia.
01:20:39.380
Yeah, but in terms of the timing, like the first grenades that were really used widely
01:20:48.880
And they had an internal fuse that would kind of burn inside the grenade.
01:20:53.720
So you would pull the pin, a safety pin, and then you would throw it.
01:21:03.500
It was like the first like widely used grenade in combat.
01:21:06.980
I mean, there's earlier examples of like more primitive grenades.
01:21:10.100
But the first like widely produced and, you know, issued grenade in World War I.
01:21:27.820
And so then all those pieces would – so how does this one work?
01:21:32.020
So there's – you'd pull that pin and then there's actually a little striker.
01:21:35.560
After you pull the pin, you let go of the grenade.
01:21:37.060
And that would allow like a spring-loaded striker to hit a fuse.
01:21:41.100
And that fuse would burn for, I mean, approximately I think five seconds.
01:21:47.300
There's a little bit of high explosive in there.
01:21:48.900
And then pretty much how they cut those shapes into the actual body of the grenade,
01:21:53.840
the explosive power would break the grenade fragments on those cuts.
01:22:00.940
Early grenades were really used more for taking enemy positions than they were for really like outright killing them.
01:22:10.000
They weren't terribly lethal in terms of fragmentation.
01:22:12.520
They would just throw them, especially inside of bunkers in World War I down in the trenches.
01:22:16.740
Everyone would be dazed and confused because of the grenade that went off,
01:22:19.340
blowing everyone's ears out and making them blind.
01:22:21.420
And then they would run in there with bayonets and really finish the job.
01:22:24.040
That was really how it was done back in the day.
01:22:27.120
So I'm telling you guys, keep your shit together, dog.
01:22:30.960
And World War I, man, they had like German stormtroopers when they were attacking enemy trenches.
01:22:35.100
A lot of times they wouldn't even go in with a rifle when they were attacking enemy position.
01:22:38.240
They had these giant sacks that they would tie up to their shoulders and they would just be full of grenades.
01:22:42.580
They would have 12 grenades on them and then like a club.
01:22:45.500
So they would go in there at night raiding trenches, throw 12 grenades,
01:22:49.720
and then after all the grenades go off, they'll run in there with a club and start beating people to death.
01:23:20.760
It looks like we're in a new environment where a lot of people are getting armed.
01:23:33.300
And as long as you use them safely, they're really just a lot of fun.
01:23:37.100
Do you think I could be a safe user of firearms?
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I wouldn't sell it to you if I didn't think you would, man.
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So there was a video you were showing me of what other type of hunting and outdoor activities
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Well, here in L.A., man, I do a lot of, I mean, the season just ended, but I do a lot
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So my cousin and I and my dad and my uncle, we'll go out.
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So we got a lot of scuba gear and we'll go down and in different spots around like
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pretty much the west side out in the ocean and we go either out in a little boat or we
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go out there late at night, you know, kind of Navy SEAL style and we go there and pick
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We wear Kevlar gloves, flashlight, and you're there and they come out at night to feed.
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Oh, Palos Verdes, around the marina, Redondo, up in Malibu.
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And then you go out there late at night and underwater, it's completely pitch black down
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So all the lobsters caught coming out and we have bright flashlights.
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So we're about, you know, 30, 40 feet underwater by the rocks, even sometimes even shallower.
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And then you grab, you grab these big bugs, man.
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And they're trying to fight you and they start grabbing and kicking and then you stuff
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them in a bag and you fill up the bag, you know, limit seven per day.
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So we'll fill them up and then bring them back up.
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We also go like, I do a little bit of fishing out in like a few rivers.
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You just get a lot more of them and they're smaller.
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And then, and then, yeah, other than that, do hunting.
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And you're, and you're down there with these ancient fucking crustaceans.
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These things have been on this planet way longer than we have, you know, and they're
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not used to motherfuckers going down there with scuba tanks and a thousand lumen flashlight.
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And they, so they freak out and they, you grab them up and you put them in a bag, man.
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You just grab them with your hand, grab them with your hands, man.
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So they don't have claws like you'd like they do on the East coast.
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So if you grab them with just your hands, they'll, they'll cut you up.
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So you stuff them in a bag and they, I mean, they'll squeeze onto your hand real tight.
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They're actually surprisingly pretty strong, but, and if you get a big one, you know,
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So you grab two hands and you have to pretty much hold it onto your chest cause they're
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And then your, your dive buddy pretty much has to come and like help him get it off and
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You get, if you get, if you land a big, if you land a big lobster, man, it's, it's fucking
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So I've, I've gotten a lot of lobster this year.
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I throw them on the grill, just butter and seasoning, man.
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Get Gianni's little soft ass out there to catch one or ride one even.
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I mean, if you guys are down out, down to come out in the, in cold water, man.
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I'd like Gianni to get out there and ride a lobster around.
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I mean, I was diving in the Philippines, saw a whale shark.
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I mean, I did another dive around a bunch of sardines.
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That's another, that's another like big hobby of mine, man.
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I got to get more of that outdoor motif going on.
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I used to have it when I was young because we spent so much time outdoors, but you know,
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I mean, it kind of, kind of kills your soul a little bit.
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Well, now I can kill other people's souls because I have two fucking guns, bro.
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Now you can fucking take souls while you lose yours, bro.
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I'm just falling on the breeze, and I feel I'm falling like these leaves.
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Oh, but when I reach that ground, I'll share this peace of mind I found.
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But it's going to take a little time for me to set that parking brake
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