Bill Burr | This Past Weekend #231
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1 hour and 26 minutes
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Summary
Comedian Bill Burr joins Jemele to discuss his new Netflix special, Paper Tiger, and his new podcast, The Monday Morning Podcast, which debuts on Thursdays on Netflix. The two also talk about Bill's new book, The Other Way, which is out now.
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He has a new special on Netflix called Paper Tiger.
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And he has a podcast called The Monday Morning Podcast.
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You gotta like, once you, you know, it's like no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
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And then all of a sudden, no's become yes out here.
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And then you just feel like, you know, the first time you get yeses, you go okay to everything.
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And then all of a sudden, you just don't have any fucking time.
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And then you gotta like dial it back and then try to find like quality.
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But yeah, that's, I just had to, I just took some dates off of the books.
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So I just, uh, yeah, I just, there's a good thing too.
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It's just lie and just say you're not available that week.
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Oh, I already had them sold and I had to take them down.
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Oh, that, gee, I wouldn't put that on the podcast.
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Because you don't know, you don't need bookers looking at that.
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It was, some of it was a bummer, but some of it, we just moved the dates and I'll just
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But I was, I was just like experienced like a ton of stress, man, burnt out.
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You know, I've been on the same tour for this hour for almost over a year now.
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Um, dude, bands tour for like four years and then fucking go right back in the studio,
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Your camouflage hat looking like a fucking backwards guy, all tough and shit.
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I think I need some blood transfusions or something.
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No, but it's not bad if it, there's the other side too where you're getting run down and
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So there's always that or work yourself to death, which I've seen a few people do in
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So there's definitely, you know, well, you're in touch with your feelings.
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I think if you beat me open, just a lot of feelings sometimes would come out.
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I think I'm, yeah, somehow I got caught up in some of that feeling generation, you know?
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1980, so, oh yeah, you're the first millennial.
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The first year of millennials was like 1980 or something like that.
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I thought they were all like, you had to be born like 2000 or later, but it meant like
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You know, when, when, when do you finally have money that you can buy shit?
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Yeah, 80, I think was still a little bit of like, there was still more like some, you
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I remember a lot of that, you know, the car doors that would squeak and real heavy.
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You had to get your brother to help you close it.
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You know, I remember more station wagons, big, violent fucking station wagons.
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I remember the motor opening the car and just seeing two pieces under there.
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You know, that thing with the, um, where you put the air filter in and mom would open
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that and go like this and then close it back up.
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Mom would open that up and close it and then just fucking curse my dad.
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Oh, I think she was probably fucking with the carburetor.
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Mom got an old cop car for a while and that was pretty cool.
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And we would drive around at night and pretend to be cops and shit.
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It would be like a fun thing we would do when we were kids.
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You know, it had like the little hand light out of the window.
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See, you're supposed to take some of that shit.
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You got to take the badges off of some of the shit.
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And then I also don't think you can have the blue lights.
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And in my state, I think you couldn't have those big search lights either.
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Because they were afraid you were going to turn them on and blind other people as they
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They just knew that people would just be assholes.
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I had a buddy of mine bought an old Massachusetts State Trooper bike.
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He just thought it was the lenses, so he changed out the lenses.
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And he didn't realize that the bulbs were also blue, so he had to take it apart.
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We had things that we just kind of people put together.
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When I lived in Tucson, they had a guy who had a school bus.
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He cut the top off of it and would drive it around.
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Now, did it have an option, especially in Arizona, where you could maybe, you know,
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They have like those tarp things you can put on the top so the doors are off and all that
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so you get the wind in your face, but you don't roast?
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Sometimes he would put like a tarp over it at night and stuff, I think during like maybe,
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But I think otherwise, it was just one option, open, you know?
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At any point, can I promote that I have a special out here?
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I have a special out on that's streaming now on Netflix called Paper Tiger.
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Was it awesome to shoot at the, what's the name of the place I just found out?
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Because if, you know, even if I didn't know, you know, some of the people that had played
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there, the second you walked in there, you would know that some heavy hitters had been
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So it was pretty intimidating the first time I, I did one show a year, like about nine
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And then I, the first show that I did there, I was really in my head a lot where I was just
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So you went to kind of not, not run the hour, but you went to just get a feel for the venue
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And then when I did it, then the idea came about maybe do a special here.
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So he's just like, he kind of did it, I think, because he wanted to smoke a cigar with me in
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But I've since watched all these videos that I, I'm kind of glad I didn't know all these
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That was my big thing that people had, the Beatles played there.
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I even saw, I think George Michael, they were doing a thing for.
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So they were doing a thing and then he came out and sang like a Beatles song and then sang
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one of his songs and just like fucking crushed it.
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And I was just like, I'm glad I didn't watch that before.
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Well, yeah, because then it makes you feel like, all right, okay, he's doing that and
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And then I'm going to come in here with a bunch of dick and shit jokes.
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And I took a tour of the place years and years and years ago when I saw like the London Philharmonic
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So yeah, I definitely felt crass being there the first time.
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But then the second time, the pressure of the special, I got to have a good set.
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Let me just go out and make sure I have a good time here.
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And I think Binder, the way you shot it, put it over the top.
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Some of the shots from the rear and stuff where you can just see, it looks like you're performing
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to like almost just an infinite amount of people at some point.
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It's not as big as you would think, but it's very, it's big, but it's like really intimate.
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It's, uh, yeah, man, it's, it's something else.
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No, I bet they've had, it seemed like, has that place been around for a couple of hundred
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Dude, I love how you just fucking reaching for shit here.
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He probably smoked a stick there and talked about, talked shit about the Germans.
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Um, yeah, no, a lot of people, a lot of people played there.
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So I had to make sure when we shot it that we just didn't do the, you know, the wham,
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bam way that they shoot so many specials, which I have avoided my whole career.
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Cause I've always tried to work with people that really, you know, wanted to, uh, make something
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I worked with Jake Harris on my previous three.
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And he's like a Pryor fan and that, that shot that he does, that single shot that you
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see that he does in the, uh, my previous three specials from the crowd is a nod to Richard
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It's literally a shot just for directors and if any sort of like prior, um, fanatics would
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So I've always done that because I haven't liked how specials were shot for a long, long
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Like they would just, you know, and I thought they look similar.
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They look, uh, there's nothing that captures the, who the comic is at all.
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A lot of times the audio on the audience is so bad.
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Oh, the worst is when they put a whole bunch of them, when they would be doing a whole bunch
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And they just would crank out 10 of them and then they would be taking crowd shots from
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The whole thing was gross and just not, it was just all for cat, for money.
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The whole thing was just, Oh, these are cheap to do.
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He's already written the, you don't have to pay any writers.
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You know, and then we'll take advantage of you.
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Well, I mean, I, I would, it's, they apply a, a very efficient model to it.
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And you don't think, I didn't think of it at the first special I did.
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Now it's like, okay, I know I want directors that I know care about me that want to make
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I'm not, I don't have to spend half the budget paying some lady to get, you know, to guarantee
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Like they somehow figure out what your budget is.
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You could have $8 or $80 million and their budget's going to come in like two cents below.
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And then they find out you have it, you know, not like you get 8 million, but say you had
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It's going to be 7.9999 fucking million dollars.
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The way that it was, stand up is such a weird thing where it's totally respected and completely
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It has this thing that where it's just like when you meet people who aren't comedians, so many
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people say, oh my God, I can't believe you got the balls to do that.
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But whenever they show a comedian, it's always the worst.
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Like, hey, this guy knows what I'm talking about.
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Like a lampshade on their head and we're just this loud, obnoxious on off stage.
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Just, oh my God, get this guy the fuck away from me is kind of how they do it, which I
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So I just, you know, I've always tried to work with people that love it and want to try
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Because, you know, if you get somebody that knows what they're doing, they can actually
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They can take something great and make it not so good.
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That's why I think acting is so difficult because you're just so at the mercy of so many
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That's one of the reasons why I think acting is real scary to me because I really kind of,
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I guess I kind of treasure the things that I do do comedically.
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And so I just don't want to leave him at the whims of some other, you know, some guy
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You're worried that some big Hollywood director?
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You can't take your comedic skills and say what the fuck somebody else wrote?
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If I give somebody something, if I do something funny, it's like, yeah, I'm going to leave
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it up to some fucktard that I feel like doesn't know how to best.
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This dude is going to be such a nightmare when he makes it.
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I just think I have a tough time working with other people sometimes, you know, which is
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one of the reasons why I got into comedy anyway.
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Get over yourself and get over that because there's a lot of great people in this business
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Your loved ones will save money on the funeral costs because no one's going to go.
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So there's not going to be too many fucking snacks they got to put together.
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I have such a tough time, I think, working with other people, man.
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Which is one of the reasons why I just do stand-up, you know?
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It's like that's the thing that I focus on mostly and podcasting because you get to do
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I would try to get over whatever social thing that that is.
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Dude, if you're just by yourself all the time, you're slowly going to go crazy.
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We had a question that came in about a special, didn't we, Nick?
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I know he recently said in another interview that he's close to a year sober.
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I was wondering if you had any tips for recovering addicts.
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This question is coming all the way from Newfoundland, Canada.
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So I've discovered with myself that if it's in the house, I'm going to consume it.
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If there's a package of cookies, I'm going to eat it.
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And I'm not just going to take two and do that moderate.
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So if I don't have that shit in the house, I'm fine.
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And then at night, you're just like, I ain't getting in the fucking car to go down and get
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So this guy, I mean, this guy just went to a facility, 38.
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I mean, that guy's like, you know, it's like, I'm playing touch football.
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But do you feel different after a year or something?
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Like, do you notice anything different of not drinking for a year or like?
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Because then it just becomes like, there's a thing that I'm trying to work past right
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now that I've noticed that through all of the shit that I've done through just food,
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booze, and, you know, cigars is every couple of days, you know, or maybe even like once
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Like I want some sort of ramping up, some sort of buzz.
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And you can do that through just going to McDonald's, people who are like obese and shit like
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There's nothing better than giving into McDonald's.
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It's the worst afterwards, but when you're in the fucking drive through and you're pulling
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up, like I am getting every fucking thing that I want here and it's still going to be
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under 10 bucks and it's just going to greasy slide.
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I mean, when they give you that fucking book and you get the fresh French fries, not the
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If you notice whoever's in the window, whenever you're driving by, dude, if it's a Latino in
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And that's something I noticed, but I will say this.
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Sometimes I talk to the person in the window to make myself feel a little bit better about
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Like to kind of take the edge off of the fact that I know I have all shame.
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And the worst part is when I'm driving home is the grease and salt mixture on my steering
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The next day you wake up with the distended belly.
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And then somewhere in the afternoon, it just creeps in.
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But no, I think there's, yeah, there's definitely something where there's like a thing at, like
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there's a certain thing in the evening that happens to me where it's like, I need to do
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I started smoking cigarettes, but it's always something pornography, uh, dove chocolates,
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You got to find like, you know, what fascinates me is like basically the first 16 or 17 years
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of my life when I never, I mean, I took a couple of sips of my, you know, stole a beer
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here from there from my dad, but I never really went out and tried to get drunk until I was
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And I, and, but the thing was, Oh, you told kids you were straight edge.
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It's not like your first 10 years of your life.
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And maybe that's just not where your world is at.
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Then once you catch a buzz, then it's just like, Oh man, this is this other kind of living.
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And it's, it's, you know, I, I, yeah, I didn't understand that.
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I was kind of using that as like a, uh, I'm not saying I'm never going to fucking drink
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again, but I, I, I had, I had to like, I kind of just had to like step back and just
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I'm like, you don't want to be drunk when your kid's around.
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I'm like fucking Lou Grant with a bottle of whiskey in the, remember that?
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And the second I started to explain, like, I don't know the whole show.
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Like, I don't want to fucking, I'm not into it.
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I just was, it was a funny how you fucking, you bailed twice on that.
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Like that was the 15th time I fucking brought it up.
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One of the great ensemble fucking cast of all time.
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I mean, I was going to bring up a more positive story about the show, but yeah, it's the second
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No, he blew a guy in a porta potty and got busted for lewd activity.
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And then, you know, he, you know, had a little fucking, you know, he liked getting a little
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buzz at the end of the fucking day and maybe it got away from him.
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But like what I would like to focus on was how amazing his voice was and how talented
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And I played in this, performed and stood in the same spot that this guy did.
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You don't want to get to know Mary Tyler Moore because you're afraid she's going to leave
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I remember listening to George Michael on the school bus when I would go to school and
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Did you feel like you were going to catch AIDS?
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Some sort of airborne HIV through the fucking radio?
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I mean, bro, I was holding it up to my ear, you know?
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One of the wind-borne radio AIDS was going to get me.
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Do you think it's interesting that they can, like, they can stop it, but they can't cure
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it in all those comics that have done bits about how basically the money is in the treatment,
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Because it seems like they cured it, but they're not going to 100% cure it because they
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Which, you know, probably fuck with your liver.
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I mean, it's like how some things are continued to be allowed to, like.
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You know, like, even with automobiles, like, they can, sure, they have something that would
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be, you know, for years where it would just be so much less gas, but they just give you,
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All of that shit that is happening is the number one fucking thing.
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As we're sitting there focusing on, like, these stupid, like, minutiae words, pronouns,
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It's like, guys, none of this is going to fucking exist.
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This is going to be, like, a Mad Max movie if, you know, you know, and just watching these
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They're so, it is, and they're bought and paid for.
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I think these should have, like, I'm trying to have, like, empathy for politicians as
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opposed to just all the screaming and yelling and then just, oh, you know, anybody with the
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red ties, the one who, or the blue tie people, they fucked it all up, you know?
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You know, you gotta, I think there has to be something, like, I guess, individual citizens.
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I think the best way if you want to try to get something going is try to start something
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with your friends because if you try to go through all of that shit in D.C., like, they
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always said if you become president, if you're lucky, you get one thing that you wanted to
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If you're lucky, you just get, like, that one thing.
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Like, why you would fucking do that to yourself and the fucking stories that they show.
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It's just like, I don't want to fucking see this.
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Here's sad stuff that you can't do anything about and now you know it.
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But do you feel like there was a time, though, when, what makes me wonder is, was there a
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time when the news was ever credible, do you feel like?
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It was more credible when, they used to have, what was it, like, rules of sevens back in
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the day where, like, no one person could own, like, a combination of seven newspapers, radio
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Because the worry was, like, well, they're all working for the same guy.
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And then they just kept deregulating and deregulating and deregulating until now it's just infinite.
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So now you just have, like, two towers of their version of what's going on here, which
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Yeah, well, back in the day, like, the way they did it was the news guy, you weren't
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You can't, you're not supposed to know who he's for.
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Of course, every sports fan thinks they can tell, especially when their team is losing.
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So they would just deliver the news as it was and, like.
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Yeah, and there was a lot more of journalists breaking shit and bringing down, like, people
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who are really doing some bad shit, where now that's kind of all gone away, where everybody's
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So I think that that's why now they're going after, like, comedians and shit.
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And I've always joked that if we bought ad time on Fox News and CNN, all of this shit
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Yeah, well, I mean, at least it would go away there.
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I'm not saying it would go away on social media, but.
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Were you surprised that your special, that, did you get a lot of notes on your special?
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Yeah, but my, I was more surprised that people tried to lump it in with the specials that they
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did, where it was just like, I mean, if you look at it musically, I mean, a country album
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And my special, you know, I did some topical shit, but most of what it was about was me being
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and trying not to be an angry asshole and pass this on to my kid and be a better husband
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and just realizing how difficult I am to live with.
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But most people that asked me the questions went for the same, like, hot topic fucking
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Right, like, me too stuff, this and that, blah, blah, blah.
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Yeah, and tried to say that, which was, you know, that whole thing was fucking, because
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Ellie would say, you know, it was pretty harsh and blah, blah, blah.
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It's like, oh, what, the part where I said it happened to me and no one would give a shit
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Like, they didn't even fucking, you know, they didn't even ask questions about that.
00:28:35.160
They just want to create, it's just all about creating more stuff.
00:28:40.920
And what's funny is, is if I told, who the fuck did I, I think I just said this on Rogan.
00:28:44.920
Like, if I, if I said the same 10 jokes you said, and you said the same 10 jokes, we would
00:28:48.860
be looked at as the worst fucking comics out, just hacks.
00:28:52.380
Okay, but if you're a journalist, for some reason, they can all ask the exact same five
00:28:58.640
And you just want to be, don't you have any pride in what you do?
00:29:01.260
Don't you want the person that you're interviewing in to be like, wow, man, I know what you ever
00:29:05.340
That's a great, for them to enjoy it, as opposed to rolling their eyes like, fuck this again.
00:29:10.740
And just, I had a guy started an interview and he goes, he goes, don't be alarmed by these
00:29:21.260
I mean, not, I don't, I'd never take it to fuck him.
00:29:35.600
Well, I think what it is, is because there's so much shit to look at out there that you have
00:29:40.560
to go with controversy just to get people to stop.
00:29:43.240
So they, you get clicks on your website and then there's like advertising hits.
00:29:47.480
And the dangerous thing about that is when that's where you're steering the ship, you're
00:29:51.240
going to go at somebody who didn't do anything.
00:29:54.220
And eventually you could get them caught up under the fucking farming equipment, which
00:29:58.000
has happened to a number of comedians who got caught up in, in the fucking wake of that
00:30:04.120
And, you know, just to watch all of these so-called social justice warriors to sort
00:30:09.660
of just collectively turn a blind eye to that because they're so worried about like losing
00:30:19.620
Do you feel, I mean, that hold, I feel like is, it's like, I feel like so many more people
00:30:26.360
No, I think, I think, I think that it's just adjusting to where it needed to go.
00:30:30.380
It probably had to go past, it had to go into like a witch hunt phase and it's going
00:30:35.760
to adjust to now that if somebody does something like that, that someone can say something and
00:30:44.000
It is far, and it's not fine that the person did it, but they'll be able to, oh, this is
00:30:53.340
They'll be like, it's, I feel like it's, it's going to a rational place where it was
00:31:02.360
And then it blew past rational and went all the way irrational the other side and it's
00:31:14.060
It's a lot of times that what gets me is like social justice like that, like this whole
00:31:18.600
It's the same people that will say like, we need people to have space to learn and space to be
00:31:24.700
But then there's no empathy for anyone when it comes to like a word or a statement or something
00:31:32.140
And when you go back in somebody's past, it's like, you're not trying to find out who they
00:31:36.100
You're going back to find the mistake they made.
00:31:40.520
It's like everything else that you did, you could literally be a fucking Eagle Scout.
00:31:45.500
You know, playing free shows at an old folks home and helping out veterans and all of this
00:31:50.280
shit, but one fucking time you did X, Y, and Z, that's who you are.
00:31:55.740
And, um, yeah, you know, I, I would, I, I just wish that they would like, you know, if
00:32:00.320
somebody does that, Hey, we're going back 15 years.
00:32:02.760
I think we should go back 15 years in this person's life.
00:32:04.900
It's like, okay, as long as we're cool with doing it to you too.
00:32:13.160
Dude, you can't go back 15 months in my life and not find somebody that doesn't fucking
00:32:16.540
like me, or I said something that I shouldn't have fucking said.
00:32:23.160
That's fucking, but everybody does this, these fucking assholes driving around.
00:32:31.040
You know, but this is the funny thing is all these fucking people are getting like this
00:32:34.160
home security and all this shit where you can see like the fucking thief and all that.
00:32:38.480
They're going to be recording themselves and they're going to be saying shit in their
00:32:41.680
fucking houses and all these regular people you're going to find are just like anybody
00:32:45.060
else in the public eye that you, you make jokes.
00:32:47.620
You have the way that you joke with your friends.
00:32:53.540
They don't know it's a joke, but then they hear your private conversation.
00:32:57.000
It's like, first of all, this is a private conversation you shouldn't have been listening
00:33:01.540
That's the problem with all of social media and everything.
00:33:03.240
That's a problem even with like, it's like you can see something even on Facebook or
00:33:06.820
anywhere and you see something and you just see that clip, that bit and you're
00:33:09.080
like, it gets a reaction, but you don't see the timeline.
00:33:12.220
So you don't have any context of where it plays.
00:33:16.600
We got a kid laying in his bed right here who sent this video in.
00:33:26.580
I'm sending this video directly from my bed with an open ended question.
00:33:31.420
What do you guys think of that comedian Shane Gillis that was just let go from SNL or really
00:33:37.420
just what do you think of the situation in general?
00:33:41.260
And you guys commented on this on David Spade last night.
00:33:48.380
I wouldn't want to be judged by one thing that I did.
00:33:53.340
So I, that's personally something I wouldn't do.
00:33:56.840
And it's just, I think it's, it says a lot about you as a person that you went out and
00:34:03.380
did that to him is, is, I mean, I, I don't think, uh, you know, I mean, especially like
00:34:10.560
as you're starting out as a comic or you're like, you're riffing and stuff.
00:34:14.460
It's just like, dude, I got a bit in my act right now.
00:34:16.640
I, that like the first time I told it, two women screamed at me and walked out and fucking
00:34:22.760
then wait, wait, wait, waited to tell me, me go fuck myself and all that.
00:34:27.100
And I got into him with the, you know, and then I honed it and I honed it and I honed
00:34:32.120
This woman came up to me and says, Oh my God, I feel like you were talking about my
00:34:35.600
And it's just like, you know, so, so what am I though?
00:34:41.500
Am I that fucking guy that made the two women get fucking mad?
00:34:44.660
And then I told him to go fuck themselves and then they yelled at me.
00:34:53.520
Well, yeah, I just don't see how there's no long-term value in it.
00:34:56.540
It just ends up with a witch hunt where we all cancel everybody.
00:34:59.680
And I also think SNL was getting shit for never having an Asian cast member.
00:35:03.920
So then he said something about Asians and then they had to look past their own bullshit.
00:35:10.800
It's like, if he gets canceled, why doesn't SNL get canceled?
00:35:13.200
It took him 40 fucking years to finally cast somebody Asian.
00:35:29.260
And this thing, I don't know the guy, so I don't know who he is, but I'm not going to
00:35:31.980
just watch fucking a second clip of somebody on a podcast and be like, okay, I know who
00:35:36.580
that guy is and whether or not he should do it.
00:35:40.380
And then forget about the fact that like, like, like the, like how the punishment works.
00:35:46.020
Like, I think how the punishment works as far as being a standup comedian is if you sell
00:35:50.800
tickets and you're actually going to make some money, you should never do standup again.
00:35:54.980
But if you're not going to sell tickets, it's okay for you to start a career as a comedian
00:36:05.580
But I, like I said, I think it's, it's, it's adjusting back, but it's going to take some
00:36:09.900
balls on, um, corporation side to not give into this shit.
00:36:16.400
And why, because I can tell you this because God forbid one fucking nickel rolls out the
00:36:28.480
It's all about their brand and keeping this fucking thing going.
00:36:33.780
We're not going to let one person fucking destroy a 40 year March.
00:36:38.180
But I just think that how quickly they just cut and run.
00:36:40.940
But just to stand up and say, Hey, look, we understand we're a company that understands
00:36:44.160
that people are people and we all make mistakes and we all do things maybe out of context from
00:36:55.540
But the thing that they then let this guy go because of that is now you're validating
00:36:59.840
that there's one bad thing is who this person is.
00:37:07.300
And it's just like, it's, it's, it's horrifically not fair.
00:37:13.000
It's not, that's not fair to the, the fucking kid that did that to him, whoever started
00:37:17.040
that, it wouldn't be fair to do it to that person because there's no fucking way you can't
00:37:22.120
And imagine like, what if that kid's supposed to be, Shane Gill's supposed to be one of
00:37:26.640
What if he, you know, that's his, what is his destiny, you know, or, or he's supposed
00:37:34.580
If you have your fucking eyes and your ears open.
00:37:38.440
Cause then you have friends, you have frames of references and then shit that people say.
00:37:42.840
And it's funny that you go back to your hometown and the shit that people were saying that
00:37:46.320
Now you have, can step back and be like, ah, that's, that's, that's not right.
00:37:52.540
Oh, I remember first time I went to Africa, man, I was like, holy shit.
00:37:55.680
I had no idea that like other countries, I mean, I knew they were like real, you know,
00:38:00.420
from books and from like the globe, but I didn't know they were real from, till I went
00:38:08.500
You know what was great was, was, was, well, is so fucking mind blowing is when you go
00:38:12.980
to Asia and you go there and cause they don't pay attention to it other than this fucking
00:38:19.580
horse shit where we're trying to start wars with people.
00:38:21.920
You go there and it's like, it's literally like you went to another planet.
00:38:25.800
You show up and it's like, they have their own pop stars, their own airlines, their, their
00:38:31.660
own, it's, it's exactly like here, completely different.
00:38:38.780
And, and it's just, it was the fucking coolest thing.
00:38:42.140
And, you know, there's different like cars, like, uh, that they just don't put out here
00:38:47.800
Like they'll, they'll have like, like a couple, like Peugeot is like a big thing.
00:38:50.700
Like I, I kind of saw when I was over there, but like, that was sort of the, uh, the thrill
00:38:57.720
of going over there was watching like, all right.
00:39:01.460
And like, you get like, who's their guns and roses, like who makes these fucking people
00:39:05.420
go crazy and like their AC, DC and all that shit.
00:39:09.040
So I really got into the music when I was over there.
00:39:11.640
I couldn't understand what they were saying, but like, but the energy, but just like laughing,
00:39:17.640
And then you'd see the way the person was dressed and how the crowd was reacting.
00:39:22.980
I think this was, uh, Singapore, Hong Kong, uh, Mumbai.
00:39:27.360
I, it just, but the whole thing, just traveling through all of it.
00:39:33.680
And Singapore airlines where they still have like the hot chick fucking stewardesses, which
00:39:44.620
Oh, and they all, if you watch them in the airport, they'll move like a school of fish
00:39:48.640
They like, well, they're all in a group in formation.
00:39:50.400
They're all in like, it's like a young, beautiful military.
00:40:02.280
I mean that, that can't, that's fucking part of nature.
00:40:05.600
People are trying to act like that isn't a fucking thing.
00:40:10.660
Before I fucking, uh, trap before, you know, did 20 years on the road and then fucking
00:40:16.680
go there like shit to me that was like factually acceptable, joke acceptable and all
00:40:28.820
So I didn't realize how many people were like, I grew up in a small town and we just
00:40:31.940
had, you know, it was like probably maybe 70% white, 30% black and it was pretty poor
00:40:39.000
And I remember going to Africa as the first country I ever went to.
00:40:45.220
And I remember thinking, holy shit, dude, all these people are going to be in heaven.
00:40:51.000
Cause I'd always pictured heaven, like just the people from my town were going to be there.
00:40:54.280
And then I remember going to this place and being like, holy shit, man, what are we going
00:41:03.460
And I thought, well, when we die, dude, it's going to be packed.
00:41:05.780
And so then suddenly I had all this anxiety, like, you know, like, um, I guess not anxiety,
00:41:10.500
but just like, you know, like, fuck man, now I got to rethink, you know, what my afterlife.
00:41:17.080
And so I was like, um, yeah, rethink my heaven.
00:41:19.880
Is there a room for Africans in your afterlife?
00:41:23.960
You got to see how many are coming or you got to see how many are coming.
00:41:27.440
But then I went to India, I went to India one time and I saw like some kids there smiling
00:41:31.900
And dude, to this day, I've never seen as much joy come out of like a group of kids.
00:41:37.080
Then for some reason, just like, I had a great time in India.
00:41:44.500
I was really amazed at the sense of humor, uh, that was over there.
00:41:49.800
Cause that's not something you hear about when we, when we talk about India, we talk
00:41:53.780
about the food, we talk about the religion, caste system, the sacred cow, all this hacky
00:41:59.960
shit, the, the, the style of dress, but they never talked about the people.
00:42:03.520
And I got there and they were really, really funny.
00:42:15.680
It was just a little scary to go to as far as like when I got like a, I had to get a
00:42:21.360
And then when I went there, I had to get them to sign a piece of paper.
00:42:28.700
Like almost like checking in for school or something like that.
00:42:30.900
No, I had to go to like this fucking embassy thing and they wouldn't let the promoter come
00:42:35.140
And I was sitting there with some chick from Afghanistan and we're both looking at each
00:42:38.280
other like, are they going to let us, let us out of here?
00:42:40.460
And, and there was like, um, you know, when they do this thing where they don't, when
00:42:45.060
you ask them a question, they don't nod yes or shake no.
00:42:54.960
I'm doing my show tonight and then I'm going to the airport and I'll be able to get out
00:43:01.420
It's like, lady, I'm on the other side of the fucking globe.
00:43:07.900
Am I in when they, when they, when that fucking, when that guy taped the drugs to him?
00:43:14.940
No, this is before you, this is when you were real young.
00:43:24.940
Oh, that's Polar Express is what I'm thinking of.
00:43:28.420
Um, anyway, it was, yeah, that was the only part of the trip that I didn't like.
00:43:32.560
And it was, I found out that it's harder for people who lived on the West Coast to get
00:43:36.060
out of there than on the East Coast, which means
00:43:37.780
some Senator said something or did something and fucked with them.
00:43:44.140
Because there was some, um, I'm not good with the name, some beautiful, uh, pop star American,
00:43:50.560
like one of those Norah Jones, you know, piano playing gorgeous women.
00:43:54.760
She went there and she couldn't get out is what the promoter told me.
00:43:58.040
So I was thinking like, all right, if they don't let somebody who looks like that get out,
00:44:02.300
So what was good was I had a, uh, uh, uh, a red eye flight and I showed up and I handed
00:44:08.320
the paper and the guy was fucking doing this shit and I just guerrillaed my way through
00:44:15.140
And he, I, he just was like, Oh, they just fucking stamped it.
00:44:18.020
And then I felt like when that stamp hits, I don't, I like when I landed another airport
00:44:22.840
and get on a different fucking plane, we were connecting to Dubai and I was just like,
00:44:27.040
as we were on the, uh, the tarmac, I felt like I was in that Ben Affleck movie that Argo.
00:44:33.520
Like some of the Jeeps were going to come along the side.
00:44:37.760
And then when we landed in Dubai and we switched over to Air Emirates, which I swear to God is
00:44:52.140
So when I got in there and we went to go to the, I went to go to the bathroom and I went
00:44:55.840
in the back to, there was a fucking bar that you could stand up while the plane was going
00:45:00.820
was like a semi-circle had enough for like six people to stand around.
00:45:04.360
So I came back, I said to my wife, I go, Nia, come on back here.
00:45:09.780
And she's like, what are you going to fucking look at the bathroom?
00:45:15.020
So then we sat down on like this bench that had like this giant seat.
00:45:21.580
Cause what if you sat down with some stranger, you wouldn't want to do that.
00:45:23.740
But I remembered it as one big seatbelt, but we just sat there on a bench and I was just
00:45:29.480
laughing, acting like I didn't know her and hitting on her in like a Ron Burgundy kind
00:45:33.420
So we were just cracking up and it was just this fucking awesome flight.
00:45:38.600
That was such an amazing trip because we started in LA, went to Australia, did a whole
00:45:43.620
run there, went to New Zealand, then Singapore, then Hong Kong, then Mumbai.
00:45:50.700
And then we connected in Dubai and then flew to New York.
00:45:58.140
So that gets back to you who were like, you know, Africa exists, but you don't know how
00:46:04.500
And that was the thing where like flying, it's just like, yeah, it all, it all exists.
00:46:11.160
Or this is like, you know, Steven Spielberg, they paid him to come up with some sort of
00:46:15.460
like scenery shit and give you the sensation that you were flying.
00:46:20.460
I think a lot of people, you know, a lot of people get in all that, the flat earth and
00:46:24.480
this and that, but I don't think that that's really, I think there could be something going
00:46:31.120
As far as them making people, like getting people to act and stuff in Africa and getting
00:46:35.120
people, I don't think somebody's like making, you know.
00:46:39.820
Oh, I don't think somebody's blowing a whistle.
00:46:41.100
You would literally have to have the world scientists in every single country.
00:46:51.240
But if they were able to do that, then all these wars are a lie then.
00:46:56.360
By the way, how much longer are they going to keep saying like Iran did something?
00:47:02.720
Like, how the fuck are we going to pay for this?
00:47:12.280
Remember that great Bill Hicks bit where he was like, the pick up the gun?
00:47:18.140
He's a reference to a Jack Palance movie, which you don't know and you probably don't
00:47:44.240
I would love to get Bill's thoughts on Antonio Brown.
00:48:01.060
I feel like that was a little overblown, but that was just one more in this series of
00:48:09.340
What are your thoughts on him joining the Patriots?
00:48:15.080
Paul Verzi had the best take on that, I thought, where he was wondering if some of the concussions,
00:48:22.840
because he was a really quiet guy, you know, in the first half of his career.
00:48:28.800
And then all of a sudden, out of nowhere, there's all like this erratic behavior.
00:48:32.220
I'm not talking about the sexual assault shift.
00:48:36.420
There's more of a, there's more of a circum, there's a lot of surrounding him.
00:48:40.820
I don't, I don't, yeah, I don't know what's going on.
00:48:43.060
Yeah, I don't know what's going on with that guy.
00:48:44.260
Yeah, I, but I'll be honest with you, he was always on the Steelers, so I didn't really
00:48:48.180
watch a lot of his interviews, but I just don't ever remember him having much of a problem
00:48:54.500
Then all of a sudden, it just became like this, this thing.
00:48:57.860
And then he goes to Oakland, he has a problem with the helmet or something like that.
00:49:03.340
I really don't think any of that's any of my business.
00:49:06.620
I don't know why people post shit like that, or he wants to post it.
00:49:11.100
And if this guy's a good guy, and he's going to be great, and he's going to win with the
00:49:16.080
And if he's, you know, a knucklehead or did that shit that they're suggesting he did,
00:49:23.420
But like, I don't get into the fucking real housewife aspect of sports.
00:49:30.320
That's not who they, it's not what we're there for as viewers.
00:49:33.880
I don't want to sit in a fucking tailgate fucking parking lot talking to some asshole about
00:49:53.600
I just fucking watch this shit and react to stuff that has nothing to do with my life,
00:50:03.900
That shit is the best fucking racing out there, and these guys are out of their fucking minds
00:50:19.760
It's like it's down to like the final lap, and they pass each other like three or four
00:50:28.800
Oh, that was Andre DeVizioso, number four, and Mark Marquez.
00:50:46.140
You don't get this in Formula One because once Lewis Hamilton gets in the front, you can
00:50:58.740
On the straightaway, they go over 200 miles an hour, and I think they're doing like 70
00:51:20.500
You can't have that much love in your fucking arms if you're not Italian, bro.
00:51:27.460
It's like they're on a fucking horse, and they're like banging into each other.
00:51:31.160
See, now, he came on the brakes too late there, so he went too hot in the corner.
00:51:36.820
I don't know a lot about it, but I just watched his...
00:51:46.420
You think they're probably listening to the boss, huh?
00:51:56.400
Do you sometimes wish that you had another life to do something that was a little bit
00:52:13.460
No, I think I got this life right as far as like...
00:52:15.960
I feel like I'm doing what I'm supposed to do, but like...
00:52:18.880
I will say, though, as far as racing goes, I've gotten into it where I've watched like
00:52:23.000
old Formula One and old MotoGP, and I got to tell you, the second you press play, it's
00:52:29.060
Like, these guys could die, and people died a lot.
00:52:32.460
Like, ridiculously a lot back in the 50s and 60s, and it was fucking insane.
00:52:39.220
I read this book called The Limit, which is basically where these guys try to push the
00:52:43.840
Basically, or the bike, or whatever you're racing, the absolute limit of the performance
00:52:49.900
Like, that's where you have to be racing, or somebody else is going to take it to the
00:52:57.540
So, this book is about the first American who won the Formula One.
00:53:07.460
So, and he was the first American not only to win the championship in Formula One, but
00:53:12.240
also to drive for Ferrari, and we were just considered inferior.
00:53:17.580
And so, Formula One just takes place in Europe.
00:53:23.080
I'm not quite sure over there, but it started over there.
00:53:28.100
But as far as the cars, it's mainly German, Italian...
00:53:47.600
So, when he gets the car, he notices in the floorboards, I guess, which are just all
00:53:57.420
And it was basically the last guy who drove it got decapitated, and he bled out in the
00:54:17.820
The hood came off, went into the crowd like a Chinese star, and decapitated like six people.
00:54:27.520
Just landed dead in front of the car, all on fire.
00:54:35.360
They don't show the decapitation, but you see the hood fucking go into the crowd.
00:54:48.620
There was a German guy whose nickname was Crash or something like that.
00:55:03.280
I saw a fucking Pirelli go into a front of a Popeye's chicken one time off of Highway
00:55:17.040
I mean, if that fucking hits you in the chest, I mean, just all...
00:55:31.180
It was on a straightaway, so they thought they would say...
00:55:52.100
Seems to be the same footage over and over again.
00:56:09.920
Look, you can see the dead right through there.
00:56:28.340
but there's one with the fucking hood comes off,
00:56:37.240
The balls it took to just race in the fucking 90s.
00:57:08.700
that I would want to get into an accident with.
01:18:48.940
So it just depends on how you're going to look at it.
01:20:25.300
I'm feeling like you're not liking my suggestions.
01:21:36.720
just to kind of make her look at something else.