This Past Weekend with Theo Von - November 22, 2018


Donnell Rawlings | This Past Weekend #150


Episode Stats

Length

1 hour and 16 minutes

Words per Minute

217.61746

Word Count

16,595

Sentence Count

1,792

Misogynist Sentences

46

Hate Speech Sentences

149


Summary

On today's episode of the pod, the brother and sister duo of the sit down with comedian and friend of Nick's, Donnell Rollins. Donnell and Nick discuss a wide range of topics, including: racism in the military, why black people don't like watermelon, and the best way to get a car in the 21st century.


Transcript

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00:01:12.000 What's up, guys?
00:01:13.540 Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours.
00:01:17.340 We are thankful for you here and for being here with us whenever you're consuming this episode.
00:01:26.260 As well, Happy Thanksgiving.
00:01:27.700 Nick wanted to say something to you guys.
00:01:29.600 I just want to say Happy Thanksgiving to all the listeners and enjoy that turkey and that tryptophan.
00:01:35.200 That tryptophan, dude.
00:01:36.520 Look, that's free dope, isn't it?
00:01:38.580 Yeah, that's white people dope, according to our guest today.
00:01:41.400 That's true.
00:01:41.900 That's white people dope, according to our guest today.
00:01:44.360 Today's guest is a friend of mine.
00:01:46.480 He's a confidant.
00:01:47.760 He's a retired U.S. military serviceman.
00:01:51.460 I don't know if he's retired, but I mean, he ain't fighting in a day, you know.
00:01:54.800 He is someone that I look up to, and no doubt he is one of the funniest people that I know.
00:02:03.500 He's coming to tour in the next few weeks, I think, in Indianapolis, Minneapolis, and...
00:02:10.320 We'll have all those dates below.
00:02:12.220 And we'll have all those dates below, right?
00:02:14.380 And Detroit, I think it is, actually.
00:02:16.300 You may know him as Ashley Larry from The Chappelle Show.
00:02:18.600 So, it's my friend, Mr. Donnell Rollins.
00:02:35.020 I'm a little obsessed, huh?
00:02:36.320 You are?
00:02:37.580 Yeah, because you've been trying to get me to come to this podcast for probably, I'll say, roughly like a year.
00:02:42.260 Yeah.
00:02:42.700 And then, pardon the Lord, but we're friends.
00:02:44.380 I would come on anyway.
00:02:45.300 He was like, yo, we take care of our people.
00:02:46.700 We send cars for them and everything.
00:02:48.020 Yep.
00:02:49.260 And, if I remember, I drove myself to your podcast today.
00:02:54.220 Yeah.
00:02:54.740 And I talked to all your other friends, the white people, and everybody else had cars.
00:02:59.140 Yeah.
00:02:59.460 I'm just trying to get a clear understanding on why I couldn't get a car.
00:03:03.380 And not only that I couldn't get a car, I know that your guests come up here, you offer them beverages.
00:03:08.480 Yeah.
00:03:08.840 Like mint tea, wheat shots.
00:03:11.900 I don't have a wheat shot.
00:03:13.020 And I'm a little upset because I don't know if this is racist or whatever.
00:03:18.300 The cucumber part is definitely white.
00:03:20.120 Okay.
00:03:20.640 The watermelon part, was it like, did you guys, like who's responsible for giving a black guy?
00:03:26.360 There's a survey online.
00:03:27.720 It says if you look up flavors that, you know, urban people like.
00:03:31.880 What do you know, urban?
00:03:32.260 Right.
00:03:33.020 What urban people mean?
00:03:35.340 People, you know, from?
00:03:36.760 From inner city?
00:03:37.920 From the city, yeah.
00:03:39.720 Overall.
00:03:40.220 Are they like a specific shade or anything or just anybody?
00:03:45.060 I mean, is it reserved just to Latinos or blacks?
00:03:47.180 I just want to get to the bottom of it.
00:03:48.460 And the reason why I want to get to the bottom of it, I consider you to be a dear friend.
00:03:51.580 Yeah.
00:03:51.980 And I know you went through some legal issues about a week ago.
00:03:54.260 Yeah, I did actually.
00:03:55.260 As all of us always do.
00:03:57.680 And you, they got you.
00:03:59.600 They got me.
00:04:00.080 They got you.
00:04:00.960 And you get time.
00:04:02.460 You know what I'm saying?
00:04:03.160 Yeah.
00:04:03.580 And I was excited to be here because I know if I can come to your podcast, that means you're home.
00:04:07.380 Yeah.
00:04:07.820 You're free.
00:04:08.520 Yeah.
00:04:08.780 First off, it's good to see you.
00:04:09.860 Thank you, man.
00:04:10.500 And with that said, I brought you some gifts.
00:04:12.960 Oh, damn.
00:04:13.580 That's what's up.
00:04:14.540 It's almost like a care package.
00:04:16.060 Mostly, you will probably need this when you was in the joint.
00:04:18.300 But I got you these things coming out the joint because I care about you.
00:04:21.400 Oh, respect, man.
00:04:22.440 I don't know if you want to.
00:04:24.200 You can save for later.
00:04:25.980 You can show people.
00:04:26.960 I'll show people, man.
00:04:28.140 Yeah, I think I'll open it.
00:04:29.100 All right.
00:04:29.540 Open it, yeah.
00:04:30.220 We got that hamburger helper, boy.
00:04:32.120 Oh, Salisbury.
00:04:33.380 Yeah, I couldn't.
00:04:34.160 You got to help yourself with the hamburger.
00:04:36.240 I didn't get the hamburger.
00:04:37.080 I thought it was kind of messy.
00:04:38.300 Oh, damn.
00:04:38.520 If I bought it.
00:04:39.340 So, that's the start, son.
00:04:40.680 That's the starter pack.
00:04:41.340 Do you know how many packs of cigarettes you get in the joint?
00:04:43.060 Well, you know, because you was in the joint.
00:04:44.520 How many packs of cigarettes you could get for one box of hamburger?
00:04:46.640 Oh, probably two packs.
00:04:47.960 Nah, that's two packs of Marlboro Lights.
00:04:50.420 Yeah.
00:04:50.660 Because black people don't really smoke them too much.
00:04:52.400 But you could get a carton of Newport's.
00:04:53.840 That's just for you to know the next time you're in.
00:04:57.240 Respect, man.
00:04:57.800 I really appreciate that.
00:04:59.140 Let me see this second item.
00:05:00.360 Oh, that ramen.
00:05:01.220 That's another favorite where you came from, son.
00:05:02.980 That's where if you meet somebody in the joint, you could treat them to something at the
00:05:06.060 house.
00:05:06.260 Yeah, if you got the pot to boil your water, you know how y'all was cooking in there.
00:05:09.320 Oh, I cook in the toilet, usually.
00:05:10.700 But I wanted you to, you know, just coming home, I didn't want to put it in your face
00:05:15.700 that you was locked up, but I still want you to know that people know what you went through.
00:05:20.140 What I was going through, my struggle.
00:05:22.200 And this right there, that rich and creamy boy.
00:05:25.160 And those were two dudes that I met in the joint, actually.
00:05:27.600 But the creamy part, you know what I'm saying?
00:05:28.960 I don't even like to use.
00:05:29.680 You just came home.
00:05:30.320 Those words you can't use when you're locked up, rich or creamy.
00:05:33.080 Yeah.
00:05:33.340 But I just thought you don't, you know, you probably didn't have a lot of desserts.
00:05:37.140 So you ain't even got it open.
00:05:38.660 And it's, I couldn't get a new one.
00:05:42.580 Oh, damn.
00:05:43.220 Yeah.
00:05:43.420 I felt like it was leaking a little.
00:05:44.700 It's a little used.
00:05:45.320 Oh, damn.
00:05:45.880 But it still get the same thing.
00:05:46.940 Just put it on your thumb and go to work, son.
00:05:48.400 Yeah.
00:05:49.200 That's that baby batter, huh?
00:05:50.820 Yeah.
00:05:51.320 That's definitely, man.
00:05:52.300 That's that little treat.
00:05:53.800 And what is this?
00:05:54.760 Oh, one avocado, huh?
00:05:56.040 Because you got, with all the other stuff I gave you, with the soda and everything.
00:05:58.080 Like a salad.
00:05:58.760 But I got to keep you healthy at the same time.
00:06:00.980 I like that, man.
00:06:03.060 Oh, them SpaghettiOs, man.
00:06:04.480 That's for Thanksgiving, son.
00:06:05.600 That's a special treat.
00:06:06.840 You don't, that's not no everyday.
00:06:09.280 Everyday.
00:06:09.640 Oodles and noodles, you can eat those everyday.
00:06:11.460 But somebody care about you to send you that.
00:06:13.600 Now we're talking good stuff right here.
00:06:15.840 And what is this?
00:06:17.300 That's mascara.
00:06:18.220 I don't know what you was into when you was locked up.
00:06:20.260 Oh, dang.
00:06:20.940 Yeah, yeah.
00:06:21.360 If you want to get back in touch, or I don't know, you got nice eyebrows, you might want to touch them up.
00:06:26.580 That might not be for the streets.
00:06:27.860 That's just for the bitches, son.
00:06:29.120 Yeah, no, I'll put some of this on sometime, especially if I go back in.
00:06:33.200 Oh, and I got this power cable, too.
00:06:34.960 Yeah, because I know you probably didn't have access to your phone.
00:06:37.840 And I'm going to tell you, in a gift bag, everybody at some point, they want an extra cord.
00:06:42.580 And that's an iPhone charger, too.
00:06:44.120 So I got you that because I care about you.
00:06:45.820 Oh, thanks, man.
00:06:46.740 This is awesome, dude.
00:06:48.320 And have you, do you, is it common if you have like friends, like buddies of yours, that you'll give them like stuff?
00:06:54.680 Urban people?
00:06:54.920 Well, yeah.
00:06:55.900 Do you guys deal a lot in like, do you give, is that a common thing?
00:07:00.100 If you see like a friend, you know, or a black guy who's gotten out of jail, do you give them something?
00:07:05.920 Is there like a usual gift you'll give to somebody?
00:07:07.560 I mean, the best thing you want to give them is advice.
00:07:09.760 Yeah.
00:07:09.920 A lot of them don't usually take that, and that's the reason why they're in there.
00:07:14.520 So a lot of my boys say, man, fuck all that advice.
00:07:17.100 What you got?
00:07:17.620 Yo, throw something in the bag.
00:07:18.960 Yeah.
00:07:19.380 And then when you come home, even if you wasn't really connected to that person, you know, like coming home is a big deal in the streets.
00:07:24.720 Yeah.
00:07:25.180 So you try to show them.
00:07:26.440 Some people give up money, clothes, whatever, but I'm not, you know, feeling it like that.
00:07:30.400 So I try to give out little care packages.
00:07:32.280 That's beautiful.
00:07:32.700 I took the time out to put those things together for you, son.
00:07:34.980 I appreciate it, man.
00:07:35.680 Thank you very much.
00:07:36.360 That's nice of you, bro.
00:07:37.120 Dude, you're probably one of my 60 or 70 favorite, you know, diverse friends that I have, or probably maybe even top 20, top 10.
00:07:47.520 I don't really even believe that you have 60 or 70 diverse friends, son.
00:07:51.280 And I don't want to blow you up.
00:07:54.240 If I would have said name them, naming me three times is not the same thing.
00:07:59.500 And also, you can't use a Wu-Tang clan because nobody knows how many Wu-Tang.
00:08:03.580 Anybody know how many Wu-Tang clans?
00:08:05.680 They won't stop.
00:08:06.900 It's little Wu's now, bro.
00:08:08.140 They got a new clan, man.
00:08:09.460 They got a new clan in town.
00:08:10.560 I had Frederick Douglass on that list, too, man.
00:08:12.840 So it goes deep, yeah.
00:08:14.340 I see you really pay attention to Black History Month because a lot of people wouldn't even know who Frederick Douglass was unless it was Black History Month.
00:08:21.260 I appreciate you for being in a place, in a school where they taught you who Frederick Douglass was.
00:08:26.920 Yeah.
00:08:27.400 That's dope.
00:08:28.000 Where are you playing at next?
00:08:30.400 I got a tour now, the Funny Moves Tour.
00:08:33.120 We started Live Nation.
00:08:34.300 I teamed with Live Nation.
00:08:35.460 And they're doing some small theaters to see who can make the transition from nightclub to the theater.
00:08:40.800 First stop is Detroit.
00:08:42.980 I think Detroit is on the 29th.
00:08:45.080 Your mood is closer.
00:08:46.560 Detroit is on the 29th.
00:08:47.300 Pull it back if you want.
00:08:48.240 Yeah.
00:08:48.480 Move it however you want.
00:08:49.320 Detroit.
00:08:49.980 Oh, I'm black, so I got to leave you back?
00:08:52.200 Is that what it is?
00:08:53.440 You got a recliner?
00:08:54.380 Damn, black people.
00:08:55.660 I feel like you can't.
00:08:56.740 Where else?
00:08:57.300 Okay, you said Detroit.
00:08:58.080 I want to get through these.
00:08:59.040 I got a question.
00:08:59.220 Detroit.
00:08:59.520 Minneapolis.
00:09:00.040 Yeah.
00:09:01.320 Indianapolis.
00:09:01.900 Yeah.
00:09:02.180 Yeah.
00:09:02.520 Back to back.
00:09:03.040 29th, 30th.
00:09:04.440 That's a tough one.
00:09:05.300 That one.
00:09:05.840 Indianapolis, son.
00:09:06.600 Like, once you go past three or four syllables, I get stuck, man.
00:09:10.240 You know, I'm clapping.
00:09:11.680 Indianapolis.
00:09:12.320 Nonetheless, it's too many for me, son.
00:09:14.460 But y'all know what it is.
00:09:15.800 Ride or die.
00:09:16.340 Gang, gang.
00:09:16.640 Dude, that's it.
00:09:17.420 Gang, gang, man.
00:09:18.500 Free 69, son.
00:09:18.620 Free 69.
00:09:19.040 Oh, he's in, huh?
00:09:19.960 Yeah.
00:09:20.200 What do black people think about 69?
00:09:22.220 They like, I mean, it's interesting because, like, he's a-
00:09:25.840 He's hype.
00:09:26.540 He's hype.
00:09:27.660 Anytime anybody represents Brooklyn, you know, brothers want to attach themselves to that,
00:09:31.700 he's grimy.
00:09:32.780 But the same things that are street things that people, I guess, got connected with him is the
00:09:38.400 reason why, you know, he's locked up now.
00:09:40.460 Yeah.
00:09:40.560 You know, I don't wish death or prison on anybody, but, you know what I'm saying, you
00:09:45.920 gotta know something's gonna happen to you when you're inviting people to suck your dick.
00:09:49.840 Yeah.
00:09:50.180 Fuck y'all this, fuck y'all.
00:09:51.320 We got gas.
00:09:52.020 And it's so easy for the FBI and these tactical units to find these people because all they
00:09:56.640 gotta do is follow them on Instagram.
00:09:57.820 Yeah.
00:09:58.480 You know what I'm saying?
00:09:58.960 How do we know y'all was gonna be gangbanging in Chicago?
00:10:01.180 Because you said pull up in Chicago.
00:10:03.120 Right.
00:10:03.340 You know, so I wish the best for them.
00:10:05.340 I respect the fact that a kid at his age could troll enough where they could put themselves
00:10:12.280 in a situation where they got financial gains.
00:10:15.260 Yeah.
00:10:15.560 They popular.
00:10:16.380 And he made it.
00:10:17.420 He made it.
00:10:17.880 At the same time, the same things that you got popular for could be the death of you.
00:10:22.520 So, you know, for all the trolls, I did be careful.
00:10:24.560 Do you think, he's like the Rainbow Bobby Shmurda kind of a little bit.
00:10:27.820 It's Shmurda.
00:10:28.340 Shmurda.
00:10:28.900 Sorry.
00:10:29.460 It's like, see why people, it's like, you gotta drop the ER.
00:10:32.820 Well, you're like you don't put letters together that don't go together.
00:10:34.600 No, you gotta do, you gotta take the ER off, son.
00:10:37.560 You can't, you can't do like Shmurda.
00:10:40.200 That's like the N word with the ER at the end of it, no?
00:10:42.820 I don't use that, man.
00:10:43.280 It's Shmurda.
00:10:44.140 Yeah.
00:10:44.500 The Shmurda.
00:10:45.380 And Bobby Shmurda was the blueprint on how to get locked up.
00:10:48.020 Yeah.
00:10:48.380 And they from like the same area in Brooklyn.
00:10:49.760 I just don't understand why 6ix9ine didn't see it.
00:10:51.840 But, you know, I wish him well.
00:10:53.280 Don't drop the soap, son.
00:10:54.680 And, you know, hopefully, you know, the situation where the public can send him one of the care packages that I sent you.
00:10:58.780 Yeah.
00:10:59.180 That's a good point, actually.
00:11:00.140 We should make a Bobby Shmurda.
00:11:01.180 We should make a us.
00:11:02.320 We should make a 6ix9ine care package and send one.
00:11:04.700 Yeah.
00:11:05.100 That'd be awesome.
00:11:05.680 Rainbow Skittles.
00:11:07.200 You know what I'm saying?
00:11:07.920 What's he gonna look like when he gets out, though, do you think?
00:11:11.880 Does the rainbow fade over time?
00:11:13.720 I don't know.
00:11:14.300 Well, if he comes out, he looks like we know something tragic happened.
00:11:19.820 We know that he didn't have soap on the rope, you know?
00:11:23.060 Yeah.
00:11:23.280 But the thing about it, he's only been charged.
00:11:29.860 Yeah.
00:11:30.000 You know what I'm saying?
00:11:30.620 Now, here's the thing.
00:11:31.700 If for some reason, you know, none of these charges stick, which is highly unlikely.
00:11:35.760 Yeah.
00:11:36.100 Because the feds have 97% conviction rate.
00:11:38.700 If he beats it, then, like, he's gonna be immortal, man, in the streets.
00:11:41.780 Yeah.
00:11:42.280 You know, I'm like, you know.
00:11:43.820 And, like, white kids, they could do two weeks in prison and come out and have a number one rap album.
00:11:48.640 Yeah.
00:11:49.080 I'm surprised you're not spitting hot fire right now, son.
00:11:51.620 I might have to pull up with some hits.
00:11:53.780 You did four hours, son.
00:11:55.160 All you need to do is get two gunshot wounds.
00:11:57.800 You know what I'm saying?
00:11:58.800 You get shot three or four.
00:11:59.940 I think the number to be respected in the streets is to get shot four times.
00:12:04.800 Damn.
00:12:05.020 You just coming home after a four-hour bid and you get shot four times, son, you could go platinum.
00:12:09.020 I was stuck in traffic longer than I was in there, man.
00:12:12.300 And that's the whole thing.
00:12:12.980 I know for you to, like, get a four-hour sentence and drive eight hours.
00:12:18.160 When you got off the bus, it was time served, son.
00:12:20.620 That's it.
00:12:21.220 But you was hard.
00:12:21.880 You came back.
00:12:22.600 You're different, son.
00:12:23.240 You probably got tattoos and all that.
00:12:24.360 Oh, I feel different, man.
00:12:25.640 You should.
00:12:26.020 I feel different, man.
00:12:26.760 You should.
00:12:27.100 Have you ever been locked up or not?
00:12:28.780 Yep.
00:12:29.220 Really?
00:12:30.020 48.
00:12:31.020 Damn.
00:12:31.500 Hours.
00:12:32.280 Damn.
00:12:33.120 It was us.
00:12:33.820 It was.
00:12:34.840 Who was in there?
00:12:35.700 You remember anybody that was in there?
00:12:36.860 It was just motherfuckers, son.
00:12:39.320 Yeah.
00:12:39.920 And it was just motherfuckers.
00:12:43.080 And I did 48 hours.
00:12:44.740 And, you know, it was tough.
00:12:47.080 I didn't have no weapon.
00:12:47.660 The only weapon I had, because they gave us, you know about this, they gave us one of the little boxes of Frosted Flakes.
00:12:52.240 Yeah.
00:12:52.540 And you get a spork.
00:12:53.660 You know a spork?
00:12:54.320 Oh, yeah.
00:12:55.160 From Popeye's.
00:12:56.100 Yeah, it's like a...
00:12:57.400 Spoon and a fork.
00:12:57.820 It's a cross between a spoon and a fork.
00:12:59.440 So I don't have a shank.
00:13:00.600 But in the can, they don't know if you got a shank.
00:13:02.400 Yeah.
00:13:02.880 So what you do is I had the spork behind me, like, which the fuck y'all would.
00:13:06.100 Oh, damn.
00:13:06.860 And then I would test it.
00:13:08.420 And I think they were scared of me, because I would test my shank on the wall, and it would bend.
00:13:13.400 The plastic part would bend like that.
00:13:15.180 So it wasn't that gangsta.
00:13:16.060 I was there for 48 hours.
00:13:17.000 You're never supposed to tell people what you're in there for.
00:13:18.600 But I let people know suspended license.
00:13:20.740 Yeah.
00:13:21.360 You know what I'm saying?
00:13:22.020 Damn.
00:13:22.700 Suspended license.
00:13:23.520 It was one of the days where, you know, normally, when I drive, I use my blinkers.
00:13:29.140 Yeah.
00:13:29.580 You know?
00:13:30.540 I let motherfuckers know I'm going to make it right.
00:13:32.060 But today, I was feeling rebellious.
00:13:33.320 I wasn't with that blinker shit.
00:13:34.760 So I looked right.
00:13:35.520 I turned left.
00:13:36.060 Police rolled on me.
00:13:37.160 Damn.
00:13:38.020 They came up to me, rolled the window down.
00:13:40.560 And the police looked at me.
00:13:42.580 He said, I need to see your driver's license.
00:13:45.060 And I looked at him.
00:13:46.260 I said, look, y'all took my license two years ago.
00:13:48.840 Don't tell me y'all done lost my motherfucking license.
00:13:50.900 You know what I'm saying?
00:13:51.440 Boom.
00:13:51.920 And as you know, I'm in the can.
00:13:53.360 I did 48.
00:13:55.080 But, you know, I came home.
00:13:56.360 I got strong.
00:13:56.880 I got God.
00:13:57.620 Yeah.
00:13:58.040 I was a Muslim for two hours.
00:13:59.560 Are you really?
00:14:00.320 Yeah.
00:14:00.440 What about an Israelite?
00:14:01.500 Are you that?
00:14:01.940 Yeah.
00:14:02.080 That's the new thing, I feel like.
00:14:03.040 No, because I used to have a thing for white chicks.
00:14:05.020 So it's hard to be an Israelite and have jungle fever at the same time.
00:14:08.140 Yeah.
00:14:08.280 They don't go together.
00:14:09.660 It's got to be all about the sisters.
00:14:11.060 I like the outfits.
00:14:12.180 Yeah.
00:14:12.940 I like the outfits.
00:14:14.120 But the things they preach or whatever, I'm not really for that.
00:14:16.980 And I like bacon.
00:14:18.100 Yeah.
00:14:18.580 Oh, yeah.
00:14:18.960 You can't do it.
00:14:19.800 Yeah.
00:14:20.860 Growing up, it was tough for me with religion because every time we got close to a holiday,
00:14:28.720 my mother would change our religion.
00:14:31.180 Damn.
00:14:31.820 To save money.
00:14:32.720 Yeah.
00:14:33.020 Damn.
00:14:33.720 Like two weeks before Christmas, we was Muslims.
00:14:37.620 Damn.
00:14:38.580 A week before my birthday, we was Jehovah's Witnesses.
00:14:40.960 Oh.
00:14:41.380 And there's no disrespect to God or anything.
00:14:43.380 But I was like, man, fuck this, man.
00:14:45.340 I want a God that likes toys and likes bacon and likes me to sleep on Saturday.
00:14:49.940 Yeah.
00:14:50.260 You know what I'm saying?
00:14:50.900 And I didn't really experience any of that until when I went to the military.
00:14:54.280 When I went to the military, because I was Muslim, Jehovah, all that.
00:14:56.640 When I went to the military, I'm in a child hall and they had a pan of bacon, son.
00:15:02.040 And this is when I quit being a Muslim.
00:15:03.460 They had a pan of bacon.
00:15:04.620 They had eggs.
00:15:05.200 They had potatoes and everything.
00:15:06.080 They was like, what do you want?
00:15:06.720 I said, bacon.
00:15:07.320 They said, what else?
00:15:07.720 I said, bacon.
00:15:08.480 Damn.
00:15:08.660 They said, what else?
00:15:09.220 I said, bacon.
00:15:10.160 So I'm coming out of here.
00:15:11.020 I'm scared.
00:15:11.520 Bacon up.
00:15:12.400 And I'm bacon up.
00:15:13.420 Yeah.
00:15:13.520 So no disrespect to anybody that practice, you know, that a Muslim or the nation of Islam.
00:15:20.480 Slims.
00:15:20.800 We call them Slims where I'm from.
00:15:22.300 Slims.
00:15:22.860 Yeah.
00:15:23.060 Yeah, but I mean, it was part of my life.
00:15:25.400 I got past it and I eat pork whenever I want to.
00:15:27.480 Yeah.
00:15:27.780 That's what I'm talking about.
00:15:28.700 Yeah.
00:15:29.200 Is it, I feel like bacon tastes better if you're a black guy.
00:15:31.980 Is that true or a black person?
00:15:33.340 And that's not like a racial thing.
00:15:34.700 I just think food seemed like, everything seemed like it tastes better.
00:15:38.020 Like music seems like it sounds better.
00:15:39.200 You say you think it tastes better?
00:15:41.240 If you are, like, I feel like maybe like, you know, AFAM taste buds, you know, or African
00:15:48.140 American taste buds kind of, they just, I feel like maybe you guys hear music differently.
00:15:53.060 You might taste differently.
00:15:54.320 The way you interpret things is different.
00:15:56.240 So you're saying black people are good at eating pork and white people aren't?
00:15:58.920 I'm not saying that, man.
00:16:00.620 I mean, I think it tastes better.
00:16:02.760 For black people?
00:16:03.540 Yes.
00:16:04.820 I don't know about that, bro.
00:16:06.640 I don't know about that.
00:16:07.460 I would have to, you go to the Midwest, what are those crazy white dudes, no teeth, tobacco?
00:16:13.420 Yeah.
00:16:13.620 What'd they do?
00:16:14.180 Pork, pork, pork.
00:16:15.360 You know, you know, those guys, those white people.
00:16:17.120 No, they love pork, but I'm saying.
00:16:18.900 Like black people, I don't know if we taking spits and turning.
00:16:22.500 White people, y'all put the whole pig on the joint.
00:16:25.140 We just want bacon.
00:16:26.160 Yeah.
00:16:26.660 Y'all want the snout, y'all want the hill and everything, but I don't know.
00:16:29.380 But if you look back historically, white people, they have violent, they're violent like that.
00:16:33.500 Yeah.
00:16:33.880 Historically, they've done a lot of stuff.
00:16:35.040 I don't even want to get into that.
00:16:36.020 But I do want to get into it, but yeah.
00:16:39.420 But do you think, though, that there could really be like a thing where like black people hear music differently than white people hear it?
00:16:50.960 Yeah, we hear it with rhythm.
00:16:52.380 Yeah.
00:16:53.080 You know what I'm saying?
00:16:53.980 Yeah, we hear it.
00:16:54.560 You know, like a lot of white people, they hear one and the two and the three and the four.
00:16:59.560 But black people hear that same thing and they'll be like, ooh, nah, nah.
00:17:02.540 Yeah.
00:17:02.700 Look what you, it's just more of a rhythm.
00:17:04.260 So I think our brains process rhythm a lot better than the average white person will.
00:17:08.880 Yeah.
00:17:09.080 But you have some like white guys.
00:17:13.260 In every neighborhood, there's always one white guy that black chicks say he can get it.
00:17:17.720 Wow.
00:17:18.180 You know, and that guy's usually the one with the rhythm.
00:17:19.920 It's not extended through the whole neighborhood, but there's always one guy that had a rhythm.
00:17:22.680 I don't think it was you.
00:17:23.560 Yeah.
00:17:23.960 But I'm pretty sure it's always one guy that had a rhythm.
00:17:26.020 Do you think that they have like, do black guys from America look differently at black guys that come like, say, like there's a guy from Jamaica or there's a guy from like Zaire who just moved to America?
00:17:38.100 What's that relationship?
00:17:38.960 Oh, man.
00:17:39.600 That's when black guys feel white.
00:17:41.180 You know what I'm saying?
00:17:42.140 You know what I'm saying?
00:17:43.000 Yeah.
00:17:44.080 I'm just saying, I don't know what type of racism is that called or whatever.
00:17:48.540 You know what I'm saying?
00:17:49.380 Yeah, but when somebody say which black guy, which black guy you want to date, whatever, you got one say me, then one like, it is me over here.
00:17:56.980 And that voice scares all type of, yeah, the acting voice, it's a tough one.
00:18:01.920 It's a tough one.
00:18:02.660 You know what I'm saying?
00:18:03.340 That's a tough one.
00:18:04.080 That's wild, man.
00:18:05.200 Because sometimes it's like, yeah, I'm like, those types of people, those black people from Africa are so different, I feel like, than black people from America, you know?
00:18:13.800 Yeah, they're go-getters.
00:18:14.700 They're hustlers.
00:18:15.280 Oh, they're hustlers for sure.
00:18:16.420 Yeah.
00:18:16.940 They're hustlers.
00:18:17.920 But it's funny.
00:18:18.640 Like, without hearing a black person, when you see them, you have an instant connection with them.
00:18:26.140 You know what I'm saying?
00:18:26.680 Oh, you do?
00:18:27.420 Yeah, yeah.
00:18:27.880 You know, you're like, oh, that's my nigga right there.
00:18:30.420 You know what I'm saying?
00:18:31.140 But then when they talk, like, when it's like this, who are you calling a nigga?
00:18:35.120 You know what I'm saying?
00:18:35.660 You're like, oh, no, no, that's not what I meant, you know?
00:18:37.460 Yeah.
00:18:37.880 But just on the first look on skin, whatever, you have like an instant connection with them.
00:18:42.440 Yeah.
00:18:42.960 That's cool, man.
00:18:43.860 Yep.
00:18:44.660 I get nervous sometimes.
00:18:45.760 You want to be black, son?
00:18:47.400 You ever thought about it?
00:18:48.780 Oh, yeah.
00:18:49.120 I've thought about it.
00:18:49.880 Yeah?
00:18:50.460 When I was like, you know, from age, you know, 12 to 16, every white kid does, you know?
00:18:56.140 So then I definitely did.
00:18:57.380 But now I think I would want to be Mexican next.
00:19:01.100 I think for me, blacks still seem a little too risky.
00:19:04.420 I would wait one more.
00:19:06.160 Another year before you dabble?
00:19:07.540 Another cycle.
00:19:08.380 Like another life cycle.
00:19:09.720 Whoa.
00:19:09.740 All right.
00:19:10.240 Like reincarnated one time, be Latino.
00:19:12.760 So it's risky now?
00:19:14.420 Just being black or risky being black, like in a car or something like that?
00:19:17.780 It's still too risky for me.
00:19:18.820 I get nervous a lot.
00:19:20.060 Right.
00:19:20.160 You know, I have fear and anxiety.
00:19:21.200 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:19:21.940 If you get nervous now, you wouldn't be a good black.
00:19:23.880 Yeah.
00:19:24.060 Nah, definitely.
00:19:25.940 You couldn't handle a traffic stop.
00:19:27.160 Dude, do black people get nervous?
00:19:28.980 Because it always seemed like to me when I was growing up, honestly, I don't know, that
00:19:31.660 black people never got.
00:19:32.640 I was like, fuck, black people do not get nervous.
00:19:36.000 Nah, see, we use different language.
00:19:37.840 Like you call it nervous and then black people might call it shook.
00:19:41.900 Right.
00:19:42.340 You know what I'm saying?
00:19:43.380 Like, was you nervous?
00:19:44.480 Nah, I was.
00:19:45.240 It's the same definition, but were you nervous?
00:19:46.820 Nah, I was just a little shook.
00:19:48.420 Yeah.
00:19:48.840 I mean, we just don't identify with certain things like when it comes to like depression.
00:19:53.180 Yeah.
00:19:53.420 White people couldn't identify with depression, anxiety, post-whatever, post-traumatic stress.
00:20:00.600 They could deal with that.
00:20:01.660 You know what I'm saying?
00:20:02.460 Like you ask a white person, are you stressed?
00:20:05.520 Yeah, I'm really stressed.
00:20:06.880 I feel a little depressed.
00:20:07.600 You ask a white person, you stress me?
00:20:09.100 You stress?
00:20:09.900 Black person's like, nah, I ain't stressed.
00:20:11.900 I'm just a little fucked up right now.
00:20:13.320 Right on.
00:20:13.840 You know what I'm saying?
00:20:15.640 It's the words you use.
00:20:17.120 You know what I'm saying?
00:20:18.200 And I know like Charlamagne, the guy here has this book called Shook One, and he was talking
00:20:21.980 about the stigma with black people dealing with mental issues.
00:20:25.220 You know what I'm saying?
00:20:26.100 And he's saying from a person that's paying a therapist $100 an hour to talk to them about
00:20:31.680 problems.
00:20:32.160 Yeah.
00:20:32.420 The average black person from the hood can't afford a therapist.
00:20:35.080 Right.
00:20:35.360 What you could afford is a bag of weed.
00:20:36.760 Yeah.
00:20:37.100 A bottle of Hennessy.
00:20:38.020 And that's what we look through.
00:20:39.280 That's how we deal with mental issues.
00:20:43.180 It's not the way it should be, but we don't use the same words because you get different
00:20:47.600 drugs.
00:20:48.120 You know what I'm saying?
00:20:48.880 When you say I'm a little stressed out, anxiety, you get Prozac, Xanax, and all that
00:20:54.980 type of shit.
00:20:55.800 If you say that to a black person, you get weed.
00:20:58.180 Somebody might try to give you a line and blow.
00:20:59.800 You know what I'm saying?
00:21:00.300 It's not the right thing to do, but it's just different definitions.
00:21:03.460 I see.
00:21:04.000 You know?
00:21:04.560 Oh, that's interesting.
00:21:05.000 And all of us have been a little fucked up right now, but the whole thing about being
00:21:07.400 a little fucked up right now is how you cope with things.
00:21:09.560 Coping is the number one thing you have to deal with with any mental issues.
00:21:12.640 Can you cope with it?
00:21:13.560 Yeah.
00:21:14.000 Yeah.
00:21:14.400 Do they have like unique mental issues that you think black guys get that white guys
00:21:19.020 don't get?
00:21:20.320 I don't know if this is a mental issue, but a lot of black guys get, but white guys can't.
00:21:24.700 Well, they can, but like jungle fever.
00:21:27.140 Yeah.
00:21:27.620 You know what I'm saying?
00:21:28.320 I don't think that that's a mental disorder, but it's something that's a little taboo in
00:21:33.980 the black community.
00:21:35.520 So is it scary?
00:21:36.300 Would you bring a white girl home to like a black Thanksgiving?
00:21:39.180 Never.
00:21:40.480 Wow.
00:21:40.880 I tried that, I tried that once before and I, I feel scared almost even thinking about
00:21:46.700 it.
00:21:46.740 No, I wouldn't do that.
00:21:47.440 Cause I did it one time.
00:21:48.240 I brought this white chick home for Thanksgiving and the family, they was like, oh, you know,
00:21:52.840 you, you, love is love.
00:21:54.580 And it was like, love is love.
00:21:56.360 And she showed up to Thanksgiving with a tater tot casserole and she showed up with white
00:22:01.480 people potato salad.
00:22:02.480 Yeah.
00:22:02.720 And a potato salad, the ingredients were, uh, apple chunks, raisins, cinnamon, cranberries
00:22:08.300 and stuff like that.
00:22:08.960 Hope.
00:22:09.880 Yeah.
00:22:11.000 Yeah.
00:22:11.480 No, no cholesterol.
00:22:12.720 You know what I mean?
00:22:13.400 And black people really get upset if you bring the wrong potato salad.
00:22:16.560 So I wouldn't advise bringing a white chick home for Thanksgiving.
00:22:19.400 Christmas is another thing, but Thanksgiving, it's a lot of pressure.
00:22:21.500 It is.
00:22:22.480 Yep.
00:22:22.880 Dude.
00:22:23.260 So I always have these weird theories, you know, man.
00:22:25.800 And like, I don't think I'm racist.
00:22:27.600 Like I think.
00:22:28.860 At first off, anytime someone starts to sentence off with, I don't think I'm racist.
00:22:33.680 It's a little bit, but you got types of racism, the type that people understand it is comical
00:22:38.300 and it's the type that gets you fucked up.
00:22:40.300 So which one were you dealing with?
00:22:41.780 I think there was moments when I was.
00:22:43.080 What type of racist are you?
00:22:44.100 I am.
00:22:47.000 You asked that question quicker than I asked my family fuse.
00:22:49.840 You said, give your, you know, your family will call it right there.
00:22:53.160 I'm like, good answer.
00:22:53.980 Good answer.
00:22:54.880 Good answer.
00:22:55.840 Good answer.
00:22:56.680 No, what type do you think you are?
00:22:58.220 I'm sorry.
00:22:58.460 I am the one.
00:22:59.920 I'm trying to be honest about my racism and try to get in so I can learn about it and learn
00:23:06.540 from it.
00:23:06.960 You know, I think I was, I probably was more, I definitely have more racial anger towards
00:23:11.380 black people when I was younger.
00:23:12.880 Probably growing up in the South.
00:23:14.260 So you think it was racism or ignorance?
00:23:15.480 Because ignorance, ignorance is the, is the, is the breeding ground for racism.
00:23:20.340 Right.
00:23:20.580 When you're an ignorant person, it leads you in a situation where you could be racist.
00:23:24.820 Right.
00:23:25.020 You know what I'm saying?
00:23:25.680 I think there was fear.
00:23:26.700 And ignorance may not be fear.
00:23:27.500 I think mine was fear.
00:23:28.320 Like, cause I knew some dudes that were ignorant.
00:23:30.020 I knew dudes that drove around and like, you know, fuck black people, you know, inward this.
00:23:34.140 And I wasn't that, you know, and my mother wasn't that and my father wasn't that.
00:23:38.180 Like, you know, so, but I would get like, you know, there was just always, you know,
00:23:45.680 like I, I rode on the bus with the black kids to school.
00:23:48.380 So it was like, you know, the poor kids.
00:23:50.140 I don't, I don't, the poor kids.
00:23:51.880 I don't necessarily, all right.
00:23:53.040 You wrote, so where was that?
00:23:53.980 The front or the back of the bus?
00:23:54.940 This is a good answer.
00:23:56.180 I stayed in the middle.
00:23:57.400 I stayed right in the middle.
00:23:58.300 Because the back is where we keep it real.
00:23:59.920 You know what I'm saying?
00:24:00.660 The snitches sat in the front.
00:24:02.040 So yeah.
00:24:02.640 The fun people, the people like myself, spitballs, airplanes, I was in the back.
00:24:07.080 And like people that were confused, didn't know which way to go, sat in the middle.
00:24:10.480 Yeah.
00:24:10.660 I sat in the middle, man.
00:24:11.380 I was scared, but I would get like, you know, black kids were like, there was like,
00:24:15.640 you know, kids would fight.
00:24:16.820 The black kids were always like stronger and tougher.
00:24:18.940 So I felt like they were like, if there was fights, they would always win the fights.
00:24:22.720 And so I think I just had a lot more fear probably about, you know, I got jumped a couple
00:24:27.440 of times.
00:24:28.340 A black?
00:24:28.860 Yeah.
00:24:29.260 So I think I had more fear, but then I also had just as many like buddies that were black because
00:24:34.460 they were loose like me.
00:24:36.220 Like their parents, they were doing whatever they wanted just with a bike and just riding.
00:24:39.400 Yeah.
00:24:39.540 But if you got beat up by, I don't care what color person it was, I would have racist.
00:24:43.440 Yeah.
00:24:44.020 Like if I got jumped in the age of 12 by a whole bunch of Asian dudes, I would never watch
00:24:49.100 a Kung Fu movie for the rest of my life.
00:24:50.940 So I got to side with you on that.
00:24:53.240 Whatever race beats you up with your kid, fuck them motherfuckers.
00:24:56.760 So I think it just made me scared.
00:24:58.860 Right.
00:24:59.220 But I think there's also this thing I felt like you want to, there's this obsession with
00:25:05.260 black culture that people want to be, they want to relate to it so much.
00:25:09.880 It's cool.
00:25:10.360 If you go to any other country or whatever, the people that they emulate the most, especially
00:25:14.220 like with hip hop is black culture.
00:25:15.600 Yeah.
00:25:15.940 I don't know what it is.
00:25:16.680 I don't know that it goes back to, you know, when black folks were, you know, black folks
00:25:21.560 were always in entertainment.
00:25:22.880 I don't know where it comes from, but for some reason, people are curious about that
00:25:28.220 lifestyle.
00:25:28.860 Yeah.
00:25:29.140 Well, knowing two black friends is better than having fucking cable these days.
00:25:33.100 You have two black friends?
00:25:34.060 Yeah.
00:25:34.440 But as far as entertainment goes, knowing to just spending time with, you know, black
00:25:38.240 people like to laugh more.
00:25:39.520 They like to, there's just more shit going on.
00:25:41.800 They might know somebody that got shot.
00:25:43.480 Like there's just more excitement.
00:25:44.000 Black people like to laugh harder.
00:25:45.460 Harder.
00:25:45.900 Like you do a black comedy club, you know if they like you.
00:25:49.520 Yeah.
00:25:49.980 You know, if you get a, oh shit, stop, stop.
00:25:52.720 This motherfucker, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo.
00:25:55.420 Stop it.
00:25:55.920 They let you feel it.
00:25:56.800 Yeah.
00:25:57.060 And it's so weird because I came up from the black circuit, you know?
00:25:59.780 Right.
00:26:00.100 So I'm used to people doing, when I do my shows, if you rip it, you can feel it.
00:26:03.600 Then I started doing the mainstream and crossover stuff and I started doing white rooms.
00:26:07.360 And sometimes it was hard to tell because you'll get a chuckle.
00:26:10.580 They'll point to you like this.
00:26:11.740 No, that's funny.
00:26:12.480 Oh, that's a great bit.
00:26:14.280 Or this, two thumbs up.
00:26:15.260 Oh yeah, thumbs up.
00:26:16.460 And like, I couldn't understand.
00:26:17.840 I would do shows sometimes.
00:26:18.740 I'd get off stage.
00:26:19.300 I was like, I hate that shit.
00:26:20.480 They were coming like this.
00:26:21.180 Oh my God.
00:26:21.760 You fucking killed, bro.
00:26:23.540 The way you set up and the premise and the callback you use.
00:26:26.400 I'm like, I don't want you to break down comedy, motherfucker.
00:26:29.440 I want you to laugh.
00:26:30.860 But also in the black community, in the black comedy club, you have the joke haters.
00:26:35.060 Yeah.
00:26:35.320 The motherfuckers just angry for anything.
00:26:36.800 And joke haters, they're always like ventriloquist.
00:26:39.020 Joke haters laugh like this.
00:26:40.400 Zuh.
00:26:41.540 You know, you'll say some funny shit.
00:26:43.420 They're like, zah.
00:26:44.860 You good.
00:26:45.440 You good.
00:26:45.920 You was funny.
00:26:46.460 But you wasn't funny, funny, funny, funny.
00:26:48.860 But white people, white people, when they like you, they fucking get on the Yelp reports.
00:26:52.540 They're the only people that do the comment cards.
00:26:55.220 If you look at a comment card at any comedy club, there's never going to be a Steinberg.
00:27:00.120 I mean, there's never going to be a Johnson or a Smith.
00:27:02.700 Fuck that comedy club.
00:27:04.700 White people are like, oh my God, who is my favorite?
00:27:06.460 They leave comments and they always sign up for the email list.
00:27:11.600 They always, white people are everybody's guestbook, son.
00:27:16.700 When the show is over, it's like, I noticed you didn't mention anything about your guestbook.
00:27:20.800 Is there a place where I can sign up for your newsletter?
00:27:23.740 Black people are just like, how did you know about it?
00:27:25.740 Nigga told me, son.
00:27:27.880 Who told you about the show?
00:27:29.480 The streets, nigga.
00:27:32.100 The streets, son.
00:27:33.180 Do you miss when you see, do you, like sometimes I miss like old school black guys.
00:27:39.860 Like now it seems like a lot of the black guys are like a little softer, like a little bit.
00:27:44.640 Like I saw a black guy with glasses the other day.
00:27:47.140 Like you'll see.
00:27:48.020 There's nothing wrong with, yo, that's so disrespectful, son.
00:27:50.980 It's nothing wrong with the glasses.
00:27:52.740 Everybody at some point, they probably wear glasses.
00:27:54.660 Now the disrespectful motherfuckers, they always got to let you, they think it's a level of intellect when they just keep pushing it up.
00:28:00.520 Oh, yeah.
00:28:01.120 I hate the ones that like enforce a, like, like, let me tell you, those people in glasses.
00:28:07.480 But you shouldn't, you know, just because a black person wears glasses, I don't think you should form any other opinion about them because of that.
00:28:13.440 Motherfuckers got to read, bro.
00:28:14.680 Yeah.
00:28:15.240 You know what I'm saying?
00:28:15.840 I miss real, I feel like it was, it seemed like it was just different black kids when I was growing up than there are now.
00:28:21.440 You know, like they had a black guy with the other day with asthma that I met and that shit fucking.
00:28:25.740 Yo, every black person I knew growing up had, grew up, growing up had asthma.
00:28:29.660 Oh, really?
00:28:30.060 Yo, when you're living in projects with metal, lead pipes and shit, you're going to have some respiratory issues, son.
00:28:37.280 You know what I'm saying?
00:28:38.360 Go to Cleveland, lead pipe, anywhere in New York, lead pipe shit, you're going to have asthma, son.
00:28:43.540 Yo, when your parents are smoking Newports in the bathroom, son, you're going to have an asthma pump, son.
00:28:49.000 I'm just, that's some shit that just happens, son.
00:28:52.800 You wasn't no real nigga if you didn't have asthma when I grew up, son.
00:28:55.680 Damn.
00:28:55.960 Yo, you ain't got asthma?
00:28:57.200 You can't hang with us, son.
00:28:59.140 Oh, nah, asthma having asthma, motherfucker.
00:29:02.480 Where your asthma at?
00:29:04.080 You better have some asthma around this bitch, son.
00:29:07.220 Dude, we had a girl named Asthma Wilson, too, in our junior high.
00:29:09.740 Uh-huh.
00:29:10.180 Um, what about-
00:29:12.360 Asthma, yeah, but white people have allergies.
00:29:14.420 Yeah.
00:29:14.940 Yeah.
00:29:15.820 Hold on.
00:29:16.820 White people, I'm going to tell you.
00:29:17.620 No, no.
00:29:18.260 I'm not a fucking black guy here today.
00:29:20.800 No, white people-
00:29:21.080 Who said he was feeling dizzy, bro, and that shit fucking shook me.
00:29:24.320 That bitch, he was a little fucked up right now, son.
00:29:27.460 Yo, I'm telling you, man, they have allergies.
00:29:30.700 White people have allergies, and they let their allergies be known.
00:29:33.600 I can't get on a flight now without some white person stopping me from getting that tissue bag of peanuts, man.
00:29:41.120 Get a motherfucking train, bro.
00:29:43.340 You know what I'm saying?
00:29:44.560 Hey, guys.
00:29:45.840 Hey, 300 people.
00:29:48.340 Michael-
00:29:48.980 Michael's-
00:29:51.420 Michael Herbenwich, I'm just trying to give up the whitest name, has an allergy problem to peanuts.
00:29:57.140 So now nobody can have peanuts.
00:29:58.600 Get the fuck out of here with them allergies, bro.
00:30:00.200 Fuck that, man.
00:30:01.280 But what about this, though?
00:30:02.760 Yo, when I was young, like, now they have more, it seemed like, black diseases.
00:30:08.760 Like, when I was young, they had diabetes was popular.
00:30:12.000 That's still strong.
00:30:12.560 And blood pressure.
00:30:13.580 Right, that's still strong.
00:30:14.880 But now there's other stuff, you know?
00:30:16.980 It's like other-
00:30:18.240 You know, there's a black guy at Chicken Pox, I remember the other day, our neighbor.
00:30:20.960 Nah, that's not-
00:30:21.140 That's motherfuckers.
00:30:21.960 What is that?
00:30:22.500 That's motherfuckers in Vietnam.
00:30:23.560 He got Chicken Pox.
00:30:24.120 They got vaccinations for that shit.
00:30:26.040 Yo, you-
00:30:26.800 Yo, if you don't live in-
00:30:28.420 You get Chicken Pox in the United States, say,
00:30:31.600 Yo, yo, yo, your healthcare is not up, son.
00:30:34.080 That shit is only supposed to be in Africa and motherfucking Haiti and Thailand.
00:30:38.340 So you should not be able to get Chicken Pox in America.
00:30:40.700 But I'm just saying, black people are getting, like, weak diseases that used to be only white people would get.
00:30:45.060 It seems like that's something, you know, like-
00:30:48.600 The only black disease that I know, it's going to always stay in the test of time, is the itis.
00:30:57.940 Yeah.
00:30:58.540 You know, I think every black person I've ever went to school with or grew up with all had the itis.
00:31:03.120 What is it?
00:31:03.720 The itis is-
00:31:05.080 Like autism?
00:31:06.780 No, itis is something, like, I don't know, like, in the black community where, okay, let's say you eat a lot of food, you get tired, you want to take a nap.
00:31:13.760 Oh, yeah.
00:31:14.380 You know what I'm saying?
00:31:14.980 White people have a name for it during Thanksgiving.
00:31:17.640 It's something that's released in Turkey.
00:31:19.660 Tryptophan.
00:31:20.620 Tryptophan.
00:31:21.180 Tryptophan.
00:31:21.340 See, and a white guy knew the answer to that, right?
00:31:23.760 It was a black dude who was like, nah, I don't know what you're saying, say.
00:31:26.360 You know, but that's one disease that's very, very, very strong in the black community and it's just never going to be a cure for it.
00:31:31.480 What, relaxing?
00:31:31.860 It's the itis.
00:31:32.580 The itis.
00:31:33.260 Yeah.
00:31:33.520 When you get the itis, no, like, when you eat a lot and then you feel, oh, man, I got to lay down, I got to get the itis.
00:31:37.740 Yeah.
00:31:38.080 And you usually get it from stuff like steaks.
00:31:41.200 Yeah.
00:31:41.680 Cheeseburger.
00:31:42.340 Ribs.
00:31:43.020 Ribs.
00:31:43.320 If you eat ribs, it's like you're inducing it.
00:31:46.540 You're making it happen to yourself.
00:31:47.900 Yeah.
00:31:48.240 But black people have had the itis for years and will probably continue to have the itis.
00:31:52.560 And I know that Reverend Al Sharpe is at a point in his life.
00:31:56.600 He's a vegan right now.
00:31:57.760 Is he really?
00:31:58.700 Yeah, he's a vegan.
00:31:59.340 What is that?
00:31:59.860 How do y'all treat that?
00:32:00.700 That seems not like a black thing to do.
00:32:02.160 In the black community, we think, I know this is so fucked up.
00:32:05.220 If you're vegan, we think you're gay at the same time.
00:32:07.600 You know what I'm saying?
00:32:08.220 And look, man, I feel you.
00:32:09.880 And I can mean, like, just changing your diet.
00:32:12.280 Yeah.
00:32:13.240 You could be, black people are so homophobic, like, changing your diet could cost them a lot.
00:32:17.920 You know what I'm saying?
00:32:18.840 Go to, like, a hamburger spot with a black dude and you order your cheeseburger with, like, Swiss cheese or cottage cheese.
00:32:26.400 They'll be on the phone.
00:32:27.560 Cottage cheese.
00:32:27.680 They'll be on the phone.
00:32:28.760 Oh, not cottage cheese.
00:32:29.480 Swiss cheese.
00:32:30.360 Or, like, crumbled or blue cheese.
00:32:32.900 If you order blue cheese, if you order blue cheese around a burger.
00:32:35.460 That's a gateway drug to dick.
00:32:36.800 They'll be on the phone.
00:32:38.040 That's a gateway.
00:32:39.160 They'll be on the phone, like, yo, this motherfucker changed, son.
00:32:41.320 I just caught this motherfucker eating with a burger with blue cheese.
00:32:44.900 Not that he chose a better cheese, but I caught him eating it.
00:32:48.120 You know what I'm saying?
00:32:49.160 You don't put mayonnaise on your burger.
00:32:50.640 There's going to be some issues, son.
00:32:52.140 And you don't got to answer to me.
00:32:53.120 You got to answer to the streets.
00:32:54.120 Yeah.
00:32:54.320 Is that the life you want?
00:32:55.700 If that's how, that's the perception you want people to have of you?
00:32:58.740 That you eat burgers with Swiss cheese and cottage cheese?
00:33:01.800 Oh, I never even seen that.
00:33:02.300 Crumbles and shit like that?
00:33:03.600 Man, it's gross, bro.
00:33:05.040 Straight up crafts, deluxe, all day.
00:33:06.920 Represent.
00:33:07.720 Brooklyn.
00:33:09.260 You know?
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00:35:49.720 Yeah, man.
00:35:51.340 I think I could be – I think if I was – if you're mixed, is it better to have a black mom or a white mom or a black dad or white dad?
00:36:02.320 Like what's the ideal recipe?
00:36:04.600 That's a tough one because I have friends that are on both sides of the mixed ecology.
00:36:10.220 Okay.
00:36:10.840 You know what I'm saying?
00:36:11.360 I just think – I think the dopest thing because when you're a mixed kid, like people automatically like you're black.
00:36:19.900 You know what I'm saying?
00:36:20.440 I dated this chick and she was by racial.
00:36:24.220 Her mom was white and her dad was black.
00:36:25.800 You know?
00:36:26.140 And then one thing I respected about her is that she respected both sides of her family.
00:36:34.480 Yeah.
00:36:34.600 You know?
00:36:34.760 It wasn't just like black this.
00:36:37.200 She understood.
00:36:38.420 You know what I mean?
00:36:38.800 She understood that she was black.
00:36:40.440 She understood that she was white.
00:36:42.100 You know?
00:36:42.260 When we would go out, her white side would make sure we were always on time.
00:36:45.540 Oh, yeah, yeah.
00:36:46.160 You know what I'm saying?
00:36:46.740 Like we were always ahead of everybody and that's when I connected with her white side.
00:36:52.660 But at the same time, the black side of her, we would be early but we wouldn't have a housewarming gift.
00:36:57.680 Yeah.
00:36:58.040 You know what I'm saying?
00:36:58.540 We would just – you know what I mean?
00:37:00.820 But she –
00:37:01.700 You got us parked out front.
00:37:02.760 Yeah, yeah.
00:37:03.160 We just parked out front.
00:37:04.560 But I think – man, that's a tough one.
00:37:07.120 I just think like in the case of you have parents with two different backgrounds, it's good to represent both sides of your family.
00:37:14.720 Both sides.
00:37:15.440 Yeah.
00:37:16.240 Yeah, that's interesting, man.
00:37:18.100 Yeah, I think sometimes there's always like – yeah, I always felt like I wanted to maybe – I don't know if I wanted to be black but I felt like I just – I don't know.
00:37:27.840 Sometimes I wanted to relate to some of those kids, you know?
00:37:30.260 They just seemed like they were having more fun.
00:37:31.700 They seemed braver than me when I was young like some of the black guys that I knew.
00:37:35.520 How was it?
00:37:36.040 Did you – did you – I know you were locked up for only like four hours.
00:37:38.960 Yeah.
00:37:39.220 But did you – did you meet any black friends in there?
00:37:41.440 Oh, I wouldn't say friends.
00:37:42.900 They had a couple of dudes.
00:37:44.080 There's one black dude.
00:37:46.660 Dress.
00:37:47.060 Everybody called him Dress.
00:37:48.620 And it was short.
00:37:49.340 He was a transvestite?
00:37:50.660 I don't – I think they called him Dress to Kill, but it might have been –
00:37:53.300 Oh, okay.
00:37:53.320 I thought he wore a dress.
00:37:54.240 Nuh-uh.
00:37:54.740 You can't do that.
00:37:55.260 He wore a dress and he looked like the kind of dude that was just going to fuck everybody
00:38:00.060 but only around the holidays, you know?
00:38:02.060 He seemed like all year he stayed strict.
00:38:03.740 That's a Christmas gift?
00:38:04.580 That's what you call it?
00:38:05.420 Who wanted this Christmas gift?
00:38:06.480 He seemed like something that just came – like his dick was hibernating all year
00:38:10.100 and then it just came out.
00:38:10.400 Did you get a gangster name while you were locked up?
00:38:13.480 Like Thug Life Theo or anything like that?
00:38:15.600 Nuh-uh.
00:38:16.440 Some of the Latinos, bro, I'll tell you who's scary in there these days.
00:38:19.260 The Latinos, bro.
00:38:20.360 Oh, yeah, Latinos because Latinos, they –
00:38:22.000 Black dudes were trying to look Mexican, bro.
00:38:23.880 They had black dudes in there like kind of trying to lighten their skin.
00:38:26.340 They was trying to look Mexican.
00:38:27.080 What did they have?
00:38:27.420 A Home Depot outfit?
00:38:29.640 They did have the orange outfit.
00:38:31.260 Yeah.
00:38:32.120 That is looking Mexican.
00:38:34.200 Nah, black people don't fuck with Latinos, man.
00:38:36.100 What is that?
00:38:36.680 Are you guys scared of Latinos, dude?
00:38:37.960 Be honest.
00:38:38.600 Yeah, I'll say like those M32s or M15s.
00:38:42.540 I don't know what number it is.
00:38:43.920 Yeah.
00:38:44.220 But like when I was growing up between D.C. and Alexandria and Virginia,
00:38:47.260 the El Salvadorian community was coming in strong.
00:38:49.640 Really?
00:38:49.880 I think it was part of some civil rights – I mean, some civil war,
00:38:54.640 and they would come in here for asylum.
00:38:55.880 But for some reason, they just migrated in this one area.
00:38:59.620 And we didn't know the difference.
00:39:00.820 Where I grew up, it was only blacks and whites.
00:39:02.920 Yeah.
00:39:03.580 But so anything outside of that, we called them the foreigners.
00:39:05.740 Yeah.
00:39:06.240 And black people, I ain't going to front.
00:39:07.460 They were scared of them because they came over in this country.
00:39:09.700 They didn't have guns.
00:39:10.480 They didn't have a sword.
00:39:11.120 They had machetes, machete ties.
00:39:12.900 Yeah.
00:39:13.060 And when you start seeing trails of thumbs and fingers, people not shooting –
00:39:17.680 shooting is one thing.
00:39:18.900 Shooting is one thing.
00:39:20.160 That ain't gangster.
00:39:21.040 Anybody can shoot somebody.
00:39:22.440 But when you actually have a piece of metal and you put it in somebody,
00:39:27.220 look them in their face and twist it, that would scare the shit out of anybody.
00:39:30.600 Black people don't mess with the M13s and Russians, bro.
00:39:33.700 Russians are crazy, bro.
00:39:34.880 Yeah.
00:39:35.400 What is it about them?
00:39:36.340 They don't have any –
00:39:37.420 I think it was Rocky, man.
00:39:38.720 A Rocky movie got us upset, bro.
00:39:40.460 Nuh-uh, man.
00:39:41.280 It wasn't a movie.
00:39:42.620 Russians don't have –
00:39:44.400 Dude, I heard some –
00:39:45.420 a friend of mine told me that when they were kids in Russia,
00:39:47.500 the girls would have dolls made out of stone.
00:39:49.480 Imagine that.
00:39:50.240 And you never seen –
00:39:50.960 to be quite honest, you don't –
00:39:52.960 Russians –
00:39:53.840 you've never seen a Russian cry.
00:39:55.340 Nuh-uh.
00:39:55.860 On any situation.
00:39:57.040 They just got that hard –
00:39:58.540 that rock exterior, man.
00:40:00.000 People stay away from that, man.
00:40:01.640 Black people not messing with no Russians,
00:40:03.460 and they're not messing with no Salvadorians.
00:40:05.620 Them M13s, no disrespect to the number.
00:40:07.500 I forget what number it is.
00:40:09.540 M32.
00:40:09.820 Yeah, I don't know what it is.
00:40:10.720 I don't know something.
00:40:11.060 Donald Trump don't.
00:40:11.740 MS-13.
00:40:11.900 MS-13.
00:40:12.740 White people know him.
00:40:13.740 White people know the number.
00:40:14.860 Oh, we have a chart at home of Putin.
00:40:16.680 Yeah.
00:40:17.000 What number not to mess with?
00:40:18.100 Well, it says –
00:40:18.740 they have that fire chart where it's like,
00:40:20.680 today's fire warning is yellow.
00:40:22.920 Right.
00:40:23.320 We have that.
00:40:24.060 Like, today's racial warning is –
00:40:26.040 and then it's whoever we're supposed to be aware of.
00:40:27.900 Well, I need to get that because I'm afraid of certain people myself.
00:40:30.860 Dude, what about Asian people?
00:40:32.140 When I see –
00:40:32.620 like, how do black and Asian people relate to each other?
00:40:34.860 Because I have no concept of that, you know?
00:40:37.020 Well, black and Asian people get along as long as it's not a situation where a black person is going to the grocery store
00:40:40.900 because it doesn't really matter how much of a friend you are to an Asian person.
00:40:46.300 No, no.
00:40:46.680 They're going to follow you.
00:40:47.620 Oh.
00:40:47.840 They'll follow you.
00:40:48.860 Asians will?
00:40:49.560 Yeah, they'll follow you.
00:40:50.360 They'll follow you.
00:40:50.980 Oh, in the grocery store?
00:40:51.840 Yeah, in the grocery store.
00:40:52.560 But also, all those movies where the black guys come in and shoot up the grocery store
00:40:57.080 probably has a lot of those Asian counter people skating.
00:40:59.900 I don't know those movies, Phil.
00:41:01.840 Really?
00:41:02.420 I don't know.
00:41:02.860 They just come and shoot up the grocery store?
00:41:04.420 What movie is that?
00:41:05.260 Yeah.
00:41:05.740 I think you just made it up, bro.
00:41:07.960 It might be the news.
00:41:08.960 It might be the news.
00:41:09.540 I'm telling you, here's the situation.
00:41:10.900 The situation with Asians, me being prior military and stationed in Korea.
00:41:16.580 Oh, yeah.
00:41:17.320 You have such a different perception.
00:41:18.460 What Asians hate about Western civilization the most is having no respect for elders.
00:41:26.660 You know what I'm saying?
00:41:27.520 When I was stationed in Korea in the Air Force, that's one thing.
00:41:30.940 It didn't matter what your financial status was or whatever.
00:41:34.060 You had a certain level of respect just because that person was older than you.
00:41:38.240 Yeah.
00:41:38.680 You know what I'm saying?
00:41:39.320 No matter where you're from or whatever.
00:41:41.020 And then when they come over here and then they see like, and this is not just for black
00:41:44.840 people or any kid.
00:41:45.900 This is America.
00:41:46.720 This is America.
00:41:47.200 And they see you being disrespectful to elders.
00:41:50.280 I think they can't really connect with that.
00:41:53.220 Yeah.
00:41:53.480 Because I have some really cool Korean friends that, because they know my background in the
00:41:59.980 Asian community and Korea, they know that I understand things that upset them.
00:42:03.460 I got love.
00:42:04.200 Yeah.
00:42:04.600 Yeah.
00:42:05.460 That's interesting.
00:42:06.220 Yeah.
00:42:06.360 Because I guess one thing that I never, one thing you never learn about is just how like
00:42:09.860 different, all I kind of knew growing up was just like how like black and white people
00:42:14.640 were kind of relating to each other.
00:42:15.840 Like we didn't have enough diversity and you never hear about that.
00:42:18.760 Like, I never know how like blacks and Latinos relate to each other or, you know, or how Asian
00:42:24.520 people do.
00:42:25.540 But I think this is how it should be and how we should relate to stuff at the end of the
00:42:32.700 day.
00:42:33.460 No matter what your color is, no matter what your sexual preference is, you got good people
00:42:38.900 and bad people.
00:42:40.660 Yeah.
00:42:40.840 You know what I'm saying?
00:42:42.160 Yeah, that's true.
00:42:43.220 You know what I mean?
00:42:43.620 As much as divided as our country is, it's not like that everywhere.
00:42:49.000 I agree.
00:42:49.440 You know what I'm saying?
00:42:49.800 You and I, we are good friends.
00:42:50.920 You know, we see each other in the club, whatever.
00:42:52.800 Sometimes we have differences.
00:42:54.260 I love talking to you though.
00:42:55.640 And some other stuff.
00:42:56.240 But at the end of the day, at the end of the day, we have respect for each other.
00:43:00.740 Yeah.
00:43:01.160 You know what I'm saying?
00:43:02.080 Like, I don't, even with our past election, you know what I'm saying?
00:43:05.480 Some people, I don't ever understand how people get upset because somebody chose to
00:43:09.280 vote for whoever they chose to vote for.
00:43:10.620 Yeah.
00:43:10.880 You know what I'm saying?
00:43:11.260 That's your choice.
00:43:12.240 But this past election was interesting because a lot of people were upset during this election.
00:43:15.940 Black people were upset.
00:43:17.160 Asian people were upset.
00:43:18.480 Gay people were upset.
00:43:19.560 But white people were really upset.
00:43:21.820 Yeah.
00:43:22.540 And the difference between white people angry and black people angry was black people angry
00:43:25.940 was protests of Black Lives Matter.
00:43:28.360 And white people was like, okay, we'll see about that in the morning.
00:43:30.960 And they pulled their pants up, pulled their pants up, and they went to the polls.
00:43:34.720 You know what I'm saying?
00:43:35.560 And anytime you see a white person do it like this, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:43:39.900 I don't care if it's politics or whatever, it's going to be some change.
00:43:43.640 Yeah.
00:43:44.060 I'm telling you, if a white person is like, yeah, it's about to be some change.
00:43:49.920 You better exercise your right to vote and you make the change, son.
00:43:53.060 You know what that is.
00:43:54.120 This shit is hilarious.
00:43:56.200 But do black people, low key, you guys have got to love Donald Trump because he has like
00:43:59.900 a hot wife.
00:44:00.660 Let me tell you.
00:44:01.200 Let me tell you.
00:44:01.700 He's a, he's a, he's a, he's like a, he's like a, he's like a, he's like a, part of
00:44:05.200 his, part of his.
00:44:05.860 It'd be in a rap video, it seems like.
00:44:07.400 No, but this is what people don't understand about the whole Donald Trump thing.
00:44:11.260 Black people used to love Donald Trump.
00:44:14.360 Yeah.
00:44:14.760 In the 90s, almost every rapper, when you was connected something with a lifestyle.
00:44:19.700 Yeah.
00:44:19.940 Like, playboy, baddest bitches, queens, women, no disrespect, don't me too me on that.
00:44:26.720 Yeah.
00:44:27.100 Where, you know, the lifestyle that they wanted.
00:44:29.800 Right.
00:44:30.120 The baddest chicks, the baddest car, the baddest houses, the money, the yachts and everything.
00:44:34.600 That's what everybody was rapping about.
00:44:36.320 And who had that type of shit?
00:44:37.780 Donald Trump.
00:44:38.200 Donald Trump did.
00:44:39.020 You know what I'm saying?
00:44:39.820 Donald Trump would, Donald Trump would, would, would be, would do cameos in videos and everything.
00:44:45.520 Yeah.
00:44:45.720 But that's the, that's the Donald Trump that they knew that one, not so much he cared about
00:44:51.640 black people, but he was a fun guy, party, turn up.
00:44:55.480 And it wasn't until, even when Donald Trump was on, on, on, on Apprentice.
00:45:01.260 Yeah.
00:45:01.520 They saw a shark, somebody was hungry, they saw somebody was successful.
00:45:04.540 They were, admired that.
00:45:05.320 They admired that, but it wasn't until the ugliness came.
00:45:08.680 Yeah.
00:45:09.060 You know what I'm saying?
00:45:09.500 It wasn't until the ugliness came that people started switching him.
00:45:13.240 Not just black people, but other people.
00:45:15.820 Yeah.
00:45:16.080 Well, people are turned off by him, by his attitude, by who he is.
00:45:19.420 Here's the thing.
00:45:20.140 Donald Trump totes the economy.
00:45:22.560 Yeah.
00:45:23.140 There's the, the unemployment, black job rate and everything.
00:45:27.180 He, he, he, he, he, he, um, he totes how well the economy is doing.
00:45:32.280 And on my Instagram, I posted something.
00:45:33.640 Someone said, well, the last time I checked, the economy was doing well.
00:45:37.860 And my answer to that person was, don't confuse economy with humanity.
00:45:42.360 Right.
00:45:42.860 And it's hard to cheer and root for somebody with the success he's having when you create
00:45:49.240 such a diverse, uh, situation.
00:45:52.240 You motherfuckers want to be happy.
00:45:53.880 Right.
00:45:54.460 Yeah.
00:45:54.860 But we want to be happy for the kind, but at the same time you shitting on, um, John McCain,
00:45:59.860 you shitting on, like, war heroes.
00:46:02.040 He's not a good, he's not a, he does not.
00:46:05.160 Yeah.
00:46:05.600 He makes you as a person, you don't, it's hard to really.
00:46:09.140 It's hard to, and then what you got to understand, people are always like jobs, jobs,
00:46:12.240 jobs.
00:46:12.980 First of all, I don't subscribe to the notion that there aren't jobs in America.
00:46:17.200 I agree.
00:46:17.620 If it wasn't jobs in America, you wouldn't have motherfuckers over here swimming, being
00:46:20.640 on rafts and everything.
00:46:21.760 To get here.
00:46:22.180 To get these jobs.
00:46:22.820 The whole thing is Americans are selective on the jobs they want.
00:46:26.020 Yeah.
00:46:26.380 You know what I'm saying?
00:46:26.960 You can get a job.
00:46:28.520 You know what I'm saying?
00:46:29.120 Now, it might be the job, might not be the job that you want, but you can get a job.
00:46:31.860 Not being able to get a job in America is bullshit.
00:46:33.920 You're lying.
00:46:34.500 I agree.
00:46:34.660 You know what I'm saying?
00:46:35.240 Like, you know, and in certain communities, like, certain communities, a job wouldn't even
00:46:39.480 make it.
00:46:40.120 Yeah.
00:46:40.520 Like, in the hood, a job could walk in the hood.
00:46:43.480 Yeah.
00:46:44.400 Shake a motherfucker's bed, and be like, who is this?
00:46:46.580 I'm a job.
00:46:47.200 And the mother wake up, be like this, man, what the fuck are you doing in here, bro?
00:46:50.160 Ain't nobody looking for you, man.
00:46:51.480 Go down to Home Depot.
00:46:52.440 They looking for you down there, man.
00:46:53.860 I thought you was the weed dude, son.
00:46:55.840 Oh, yeah.
00:46:56.080 So, that's not good.
00:46:57.880 So, what do they need?
00:46:58.740 Inspiration.
00:46:59.240 They need humanity.
00:47:00.460 They need...
00:47:00.780 And then the flip side of, okay, now everybody's like, we got jobs, we got jobs.
00:47:03.540 Now people are going to look for them.
00:47:05.020 You know what I'm saying?
00:47:05.580 You got jobs.
00:47:06.420 And me, personally, some people are just mad at a party.
00:47:10.040 Right.
00:47:10.420 I'm not mad at them.
00:47:11.060 I'm not mad at them.
00:47:11.700 I'm not like that.
00:47:12.540 I'm not mad at...
00:47:13.200 I would have no issue with a Republican president that had someone, more of a moderate.
00:47:19.860 Yeah.
00:47:20.080 You know what I'm saying?
00:47:20.760 Someone that understood it because...
00:47:22.300 That understood humanity.
00:47:23.300 Humanity.
00:47:23.900 He doesn't understand people.
00:47:24.960 He doesn't...
00:47:25.960 Yeah, he does not have a comfortable tone with people.
00:47:29.700 He doesn't...
00:47:30.320 Because he's probably never...
00:47:31.800 He probably was never really cared about much growing up, like, in a way where he felt
00:47:35.260 it, you know?
00:47:35.860 Yeah, he never felt what someone else was going through.
00:47:38.300 Like...
00:47:38.540 Right.
00:47:39.300 Like, even with the stuff with the campfire in L.A., whatever.
00:47:43.640 You know what I'm saying?
00:47:44.140 Yeah.
00:47:44.160 When people are losing their lives...
00:47:44.900 Yeah, he said, Craig, you can't say some of that stuff.
00:47:47.160 And then he says it.
00:47:48.740 Yeah.
00:47:49.060 And then people gravitate toward that.
00:47:50.920 And it's so fucked up because I know friends that have friends that voted for Donald Trump.
00:47:55.180 And they say, as much as I still want to be friends with them, it's just hard for me
00:47:58.860 to connect with somebody that, like, loves someone with that energy.
00:48:02.460 Yeah.
00:48:02.860 You know what I'm saying?
00:48:03.740 And it doesn't.
00:48:04.940 It doesn't have to be that way.
00:48:06.560 Yeah.
00:48:06.880 He was a phenom.
00:48:07.820 Yeah.
00:48:08.060 The same way Barack Obama was, he was a phenom.
00:48:12.240 You know what I'm saying?
00:48:12.900 But the first thing to me is, like, when Obama was in office, he took his lumps.
00:48:17.940 He wasn't like, bush this, bush that, bush that.
00:48:19.820 He's like, okay, I got it from here.
00:48:20.780 I'll take it from here.
00:48:22.280 Yo, Trump, you won.
00:48:23.640 Don't be a sore loser.
00:48:24.820 Yeah.
00:48:25.060 Why do you have to, like they say in the hood, keep my name out your mouth?
00:48:28.220 Why do you got to keep on trying to knock?
00:48:29.540 Yeah, he does a lot of that, man.
00:48:30.700 If you think about it, Obama's campaign slogan and Trump's campaign slogan meant the same thing.
00:48:41.340 If anything, if you think about it, when Obama was running, he could have ran on the slogan of make America great again.
00:48:48.500 Yeah.
00:48:49.360 You know what I mean?
00:48:49.920 His definition would have probably been a lot better than Donald Trump's.
00:48:52.160 Right.
00:48:52.720 That's right.
00:48:53.240 Either one could have had either one.
00:48:54.240 Either one.
00:48:54.540 And Donald Trump could have had change.
00:48:56.880 And both of them were like, both of them was like, just these candidates that they needed something different.
00:49:06.200 People like Donald Trump's base felt like he needed something, they needed something different.
00:49:10.660 Yeah.
00:49:11.080 You know what I'm saying?
00:49:11.960 When Bush was, when the transition from Bush to Obama, it didn't matter who the fuck became president.
00:49:17.380 They needed some type of difference.
00:49:19.040 So both of them, they was the rock stars, you know, and as much as.
00:49:23.080 Of the moment.
00:49:23.560 There was a rock star of the moment.
00:49:24.880 And then black people get upset.
00:49:26.280 Like, just look at it like this.
00:49:28.200 You lived in a lifetime where you saw a black president.
00:49:32.780 And not just a black president.
00:49:33.780 You saw a good guy.
00:49:34.540 You saw a good president.
00:49:35.660 And you saw a president you felt cared about everything and everybody.
00:49:39.320 Right.
00:49:39.700 That's it.
00:49:40.260 That's interesting.
00:49:40.960 Yeah.
00:49:41.080 You definitely feel.
00:49:41.900 Yeah.
00:49:42.140 With Obama, you felt like he cared, you know?
00:49:44.160 Yeah.
00:49:44.320 Like, I voted for Obama twice, you know?
00:49:45.960 And you felt like he cared, you know?
00:49:49.140 One of my friends, he was a CEO of this tech company, Silicon Valley.
00:49:55.780 He was like, and this black guy, he said down there, first off, you know, there's no reason.
00:49:59.200 He's like, like, Hillary was a flawed candidate.
00:50:02.660 She was flawed.
00:50:04.020 You know what I'm saying?
00:50:04.800 Yeah.
00:50:04.820 Like, she was flawed.
00:50:07.220 And people hated her so much that it showed love in the favor of Donald Trump.
00:50:14.400 But this is another thing, too.
00:50:15.920 And this is so important.
00:50:16.920 And you saw the change with the midterms and everything, is that people have to understand the importance of voting.
00:50:24.120 Oh, I agree.
00:50:25.260 I'm going to tell you something.
00:50:25.800 One thing, as Hillary called them deplorables and people talk about these rednecks and these motherfuckers and these red states, whatever.
00:50:31.760 One thing, and this is no disrespect, like, for somebody that's trailer trash, trailer park type stuff, if one thing they don't, they always want to exercise is their right to vote.
00:50:46.080 They don't have to have teeth.
00:50:47.640 They don't have to have jobs.
00:50:49.000 They don't have to have anything in life.
00:50:50.580 But they're going to exercise their right to vote.
00:50:52.160 And that's how you do change.
00:50:53.300 Yeah.
00:50:53.480 But don't you think, like, I feel like sometimes, like, people are, somehow they've got us all tricked in some ways, these parties.
00:51:00.680 Because, you know, black people have voted Democrat for a long time.
00:51:04.900 Poor white, poor black people have voted Democrat for a long time.
00:51:07.740 Poor white people have voted Republican for a long time.
00:51:10.120 But it's like, how long do we keep voting those ways?
00:51:13.480 And we're still in the same trough.
00:51:17.140 Yeah.
00:51:17.300 But the thing is that you're going to vote for whatever party.
00:51:20.160 Well, that's hard.
00:51:21.040 It's hard crossover to get.
00:51:22.460 It's hard crossover to get for most black community to even think on Republicans.
00:51:27.620 I do understand that.
00:51:28.860 But it's going to be somebody that has your similar views and your ideas.
00:51:34.800 Yeah.
00:51:35.040 Because even on the Republican side, Jeb Bush, I was a fan of his.
00:51:40.700 And the reason why I was a fan of his is because I understand that he was from the Bush family.
00:51:44.460 But he felt like the mama's boy.
00:51:46.300 Right.
00:51:46.580 You know what I'm saying?
00:51:46.920 He felt like the Bush that would have had heart enough to say, this is wrong.
00:51:53.260 This is wrong with you telling these people.
00:51:54.860 You know what I'm saying?
00:51:55.500 He's the one that I would say would probably be a Republican that shifts closer to the moderate side to anything.
00:52:02.540 You know what I'm saying?
00:52:03.080 I was a fan of his.
00:52:04.480 But being a president now, it's not all about who you think at heart.
00:52:08.020 It's the charisma.
00:52:08.720 It's the charm.
00:52:09.180 And how do you pop?
00:52:10.160 Yeah.
00:52:10.480 And he couldn't pop.
00:52:11.500 It's turning into the WWE a little bit.
00:52:13.460 Do you feel that?
00:52:13.960 Do you feel like everything's kind of turning into the wrestling?
00:52:15.860 Yeah, it's unfortunate.
00:52:18.160 It's like everything now, it's really like a reality show.
00:52:22.820 It's really like knowing how to manipulate the media.
00:52:26.900 Right.
00:52:27.400 You know what I'm saying?
00:52:27.900 You know how to manipulate the media.
00:52:29.140 You could win at anything.
00:52:30.780 And this was proven with Donald Trump being president.
00:52:33.680 Was he the best candidate?
00:52:34.620 Was he the best president for the job?
00:52:36.220 Not so much.
00:52:37.320 Yeah.
00:52:37.640 But he knew how to work the media.
00:52:40.460 He knew how to work the system that they built.
00:52:42.140 He knew how to get motherfuckers compared to America Idol.
00:52:45.140 How do you get people like, yo, text so-and-so for your winning?
00:52:47.380 He knew how to make people.
00:52:51.140 He knew how to excite them.
00:52:52.300 He knew how to make people move and go do something.
00:52:54.360 That's why he won.
00:52:55.000 But in some ways, didn't you feel a little bit after you got elected like, holy shit, man, I could be president?
00:52:59.940 Did you feel that for a second?
00:53:01.160 Like, fuck, anybody could be president.
00:53:03.220 Yeah.
00:53:03.680 But I really felt more of that when Obama was president.
00:53:10.300 Because that was the one.
00:53:11.400 I could see that.
00:53:12.280 That's the one excuse black people, they was holding on to.
00:53:17.220 You could say anything.
00:53:18.180 Yeah, so-and-so.
00:53:18.820 Yeah, but there ain't going to never be no black doctors.
00:53:20.720 We got more black doctors.
00:53:22.180 There ain't going to be no black astronauts.
00:53:23.320 We got black astronauts.
00:53:24.180 They do?
00:53:24.720 Yeah, we got black astronauts.
00:53:25.680 We got black everything.
00:53:26.660 This was the only thing that we didn't have.
00:53:29.220 You know what I'm saying?
00:53:29.820 So for all the black people to make excuses, when Obama got elected, it's like he proved that there's no more excuses.
00:53:36.540 And even when Obama, I know this has nothing to do with comedy.
00:53:39.000 Even when Obama, I went to Obama, all black people wasn't happy about Obama.
00:53:44.040 Right.
00:53:44.320 I went to a barbershop one time, and this brother, he was like, I don't fuck with Obama.
00:53:48.920 I was like, he was like, what if, he said, what has Barack Obama done for black people?
00:53:53.520 And I looked at him, I said, he won, motherfucker.
00:53:55.300 Yeah.
00:53:56.060 You know what I'm saying?
00:53:56.760 Was he going to be a great president?
00:53:58.100 Nobody knew about that.
00:53:58.620 Nobody.
00:53:58.960 I don't think anybody can be a great president.
00:54:00.720 Yeah, but the fact that he won shows you that-
00:54:04.420 It was inspiring.
00:54:05.140 It's inspiring.
00:54:05.980 But the trick of that was like, every black person thought they could be president.
00:54:10.640 Right.
00:54:11.080 There's a dude like this, yo, Obama black, I'm black.
00:54:13.320 He played basketball.
00:54:14.440 I played basketball.
00:54:15.520 You know, I could do that shit.
00:54:16.920 No.
00:54:17.320 You still got to stay out of trouble.
00:54:19.600 You still got to have an education.
00:54:21.600 Yeah.
00:54:21.800 And you still got to be a dope citizen.
00:54:24.160 You can't just, like, because I'm black, you can do it.
00:54:25.980 So, yeah, that excitement was gone.
00:54:27.640 Sometimes I think, to me, and this is just a perception of mine, and this could be ignorance, too.
00:54:32.660 It seems to me that, or sometimes I think or I feel that, yeah, that the black, some of the black community, like, there is a ton of opportunity these days.
00:54:43.920 And some of the things, the only thing that I feel like holds some black people back is just their lack of desire in some places, man.
00:54:50.820 And not just with black people, because that's where anybody.
00:54:53.140 Right.
00:54:54.140 Anybody.
00:54:54.960 And I think of the black.
00:54:55.540 Why do you think I see, why do you think I feel or see that more, or as a white person, or why do you think?
00:55:01.420 Because you're probably not around.
00:55:02.980 And I'm not accusing you or anything.
00:55:03.560 I'm just thinking about this.
00:55:04.760 Because you're probably not around enough black people that don't make excuses.
00:55:08.020 Right.
00:55:08.320 You know what I'm saying?
00:55:08.840 If you limit yourself to a couple of people or a handful of people, you don't see the examples.
00:55:12.160 And I grew up in the South, and there wasn't, when there's no opportunity, of course, like, the South is a different animal a little bit, because there's decades and generations of no opportunity.
00:55:20.680 I'm just trying to believe in, like, there are no, here's the thing.
00:55:25.080 You have two excuses.
00:55:26.120 Yeah.
00:55:26.560 You have a good excuse and a bad excuse.
00:55:28.340 And the internet is still excuses.
00:55:29.900 As a comic, you know what I'm saying?
00:55:31.740 You could have a show, like, at night, and say, you got a show at 12 o'clock.
00:55:34.720 You just found out, like, one of your aunts or your uncles or whatever just passed away.
00:55:38.140 Right.
00:55:38.640 You got a good excuse not to go to that show.
00:55:40.480 So, you know, I'm not feeling right.
00:55:44.260 That's my excuse.
00:55:45.000 It's still an excuse.
00:55:45.940 And you got a bad excuse not to go to a show.
00:55:48.160 You know what I'm saying?
00:55:48.980 Oh, man, I got a cold or something.
00:55:50.940 Something stupid.
00:55:51.900 You know what I mean?
00:55:52.580 But at the end of the day, it's still excuses.
00:55:54.680 So, as much as, not just black people, just for anybody, stop making excuses.
00:56:01.200 Yeah.
00:56:01.540 It's so easy to make excuses.
00:56:02.660 What you going to do?
00:56:04.140 What you going to do?
00:56:05.160 And that goes, I relate that to comedy.
00:56:07.000 You see, you've been in the game for a long time.
00:56:08.540 You see motherfuckers trying to get stage time and stuff.
00:56:11.220 And they'll say, oh, yeah, but they don't really like me in that club.
00:56:15.480 They don't really mess with women.
00:56:17.460 And then you ask that same comedy.
00:56:19.260 Where do you perform?
00:56:19.860 I perform at this one club.
00:56:22.140 It's old Mike.
00:56:22.600 And you say, how did you do?
00:56:25.460 Oh, my set was okay.
00:56:27.340 No, motherfucker.
00:56:28.240 That ain't enough.
00:56:29.280 Yeah.
00:56:29.740 You know what I'm saying?
00:56:30.360 And I tell this to all young comics.
00:56:32.500 You know, any doors you want open, it's going to come through the microphone.
00:56:36.160 When you ripping, when you're not just 50-50, I'm talking about when you're demolishing everywhere, you can't be denied.
00:56:44.940 You know what I'm saying?
00:56:45.420 Don't make excuses.
00:56:46.400 Make yourself undeniable.
00:56:48.280 You know what I mean?
00:56:48.920 Okay, I don't do five spots a week.
00:56:51.020 I do two.
00:56:51.720 But when you do those two spots, kill them.
00:56:53.840 Yeah.
00:56:54.320 And those two spots will turn into three spots and five spots.
00:56:57.760 I even use myself as an example with me in the comedy scene in California.
00:57:02.780 I came up as a New York comic.
00:57:03.820 When I first came here, people knew me from the Chappelle show.
00:57:06.960 A lot of people didn't know me as a stand-up.
00:57:08.560 And a lot of clubs didn't know.
00:57:10.060 Oh, he's a funny dude on TV, but whatever.
00:57:12.100 And I used to drive down Sunset, Hollywood, and I used to see the names up there on the marquee.
00:57:17.920 Bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah.
00:57:20.140 And I'm looking at those names, and I'm not disrespecting them.
00:57:22.280 I'm like this.
00:57:23.480 I'm on that level.
00:57:24.660 Right.
00:57:24.940 Like, I should be there.
00:57:26.620 I'm not making excuses.
00:57:28.480 I'm not going to say, fuck that.
00:57:30.160 I don't want to go through the work to get there.
00:57:34.020 And gradually, I told myself, I want to be, when I'm in town, I want to be on every marquee.
00:57:38.780 That's a test of who's popping in the city.
00:57:41.220 Yeah.
00:57:41.640 And it might not mean a lot to a lot of people, but for me, when I can drive down Sunset,
00:57:46.440 and I see I'm on the marquee at the store, go to the Laugh Factory, I see I'm on the marquee at the Laugh Factory,
00:57:51.860 go to the Improv, I see I'm at the marquee at the Improv.
00:57:54.480 Like, go to Ha Ha's, which is a club a lot of people don't fuck with, but it's a great place.
00:57:57.620 Yeah.
00:57:58.020 It's a great place to work.
00:57:58.820 It's a good spot.
00:57:59.220 When you see that, you feel accomplished, and you say to yourself, I didn't make excuses,
00:58:05.460 and I did with it a couple times, like, oh, they don't want to let me on, and they let that motherfucker on?
00:58:10.320 Right.
00:58:10.660 You just take your lumps, come back the next day, and you build your shit.
00:58:13.780 Yeah.
00:58:13.980 And the reason why I'm saying this, like, in life, period, there are, literally, there's no more excuses.
00:58:20.720 That's true.
00:58:21.320 Either you're going to do it or you're not going to do it.
00:58:23.100 Yeah.
00:58:23.620 And you look around, we got too many examples.
00:58:25.460 I mean, I don't feel we got examples of people that we don't necessarily agree with, like, say, from stand-up.
00:58:32.360 But you got now, we're in an age where you could make yourself the shit on your phone.
00:58:39.480 Yeah.
00:58:39.860 In front of your computer.
00:58:41.160 It's not the time when I came up, it was three or four networks.
00:58:43.820 Right.
00:58:43.920 You were your own network.
00:58:45.540 So you definitely, you got people that, 6ix9ine's a perfect example.
00:58:48.600 Yeah.
00:58:48.800 They wasn't trying to fuck with him.
00:58:50.820 The energy wasn't trying to fuck with him.
00:58:52.100 He said, I'm going to fuck with myself.
00:58:53.880 I don't need y'all for anything.
00:58:54.880 Yeah, that's a great statement.
00:58:55.840 I'm going to fuck with myself.
00:58:56.900 Yeah, I'm going to fuck with myself, and I can make it happen, you know?
00:58:59.060 Yeah, I had a manager before.
00:59:00.540 I don't have a manager right now, and I had a manager.
00:59:02.860 And I remember one time I had this thing I was trying to do when I was traveling on the road.
00:59:06.480 And I was having, and I was like, I want to shoot it and put it on YouTube.
00:59:09.600 And he's like, well, let's put it together and go out and shop it around.
00:59:12.340 So then we did that for like a year, and nobody, you know, it was back and forth.
00:59:16.120 But in the meantime, in that year, I didn't, you know, I did it some, but I was waiting now more for these networks to decide if I was going to have an opportunity.
00:59:23.720 Whereas if I would have just been making it the whole time, it would have been huge.
00:59:27.480 And it would have been something at the finish line, whereas instead I let them decide, okay, the finish line is now, and we don't want it.
00:59:33.900 You build your own thing.
00:59:34.720 I'll give you two great examples of that.
00:59:37.540 Bill Burr, Kevin Hart.
00:59:39.800 When I was doing, when we were doing Chappelle's show at the time, Bill Burr was bubbling.
00:59:44.580 Bill Burr was bubbling.
00:59:46.880 He wasn't.
00:59:47.500 Damn, say that 10 times fast, huh?
00:59:49.180 No, the reason why I'm saying that, because it's no disrespect, he was bubbling.
00:59:52.360 Yeah.
00:59:52.520 You saw him in the club, he was like, you go see certain clubs, and you're like this, this motherfucker's going to blow.
00:59:57.200 This motherfucker's going to blow.
00:59:58.320 But he didn't have the TV and all that.
01:00:00.240 But you know it was coming.
01:00:01.260 Right.
01:00:01.660 And we were doing Chappelle's show.
01:00:02.860 We were making money in the Chappelle's show, but not a lot of money.
01:00:04.840 We needed a tour.
01:00:06.620 I came up with the idea of doing an I'm Rich Bitch tour.
01:00:10.000 Yeah.
01:00:10.660 You know what I'm saying?
01:00:11.480 And the Rich Bitch tour, the two draws at the time were me and Charlie.
01:00:15.600 And I could have ran with that.
01:00:17.120 I could have went for somebody local, but I said, nah, Bill Burr is an animal.
01:00:21.060 Let's not just do a show of people coming for the novelty of the show.
01:00:24.460 Yeah.
01:00:24.780 Let's give them a show where this show is fire from beginning to end.
01:00:29.820 And that's what we had on I'm Rich Bitch tour.
01:00:31.660 I think this is the first time Bill Burr was, we ran this shit for like a year and a half.
01:00:36.580 Charlie Murphy with MC.
01:00:39.280 Bill Burr, you know this is funny, Bill Burr was a feature.
01:00:42.880 Wow.
01:00:43.500 And I was headlining.
01:00:44.280 And I'm telling you, you know, you're talking about no excuses.
01:00:47.920 Imagine going on every night for a year behind Bill Burr.
01:00:52.120 Fuck that.
01:00:52.700 There was no day you could take off.
01:00:55.680 Yeah.
01:00:56.160 You didn't have a, you go out and party, get all fucked up.
01:00:58.460 You got a hangover.
01:00:59.620 The next day, guess what's going to happen?
01:01:01.280 And this happened to me a couple of times.
01:01:02.780 Like, yeah, he was funny, but that white boy, you know what I'm saying?
01:01:05.760 And the point I'm making is he knew his features was going to be because me and Charlie
01:01:09.500 was on, I'm Rich Bitch, Charlie Murphy, all that shit.
01:01:11.720 It was just, it was pandemonium.
01:01:13.400 But Bill Burr was the one with the comment cards, you know what I'm saying?
01:01:17.760 Filling them out, the emails.
01:01:19.500 I'm like, yo, you worry about that email shit?
01:01:21.000 Nigga, people going to be coming to see us forever.
01:01:22.820 He was a dude that was doing the email card and he started building that base.
01:01:25.960 Yeah.
01:01:26.300 He started building that base.
01:01:27.300 And then when you start building that base, people start riding with you.
01:01:29.760 And then you win, like, Comedian of the Year in the Montreal Comedy Festival, you're going
01:01:37.000 to build to that point.
01:01:37.980 He knew what he wanted early on.
01:01:39.900 A lot of people don't.
01:01:40.940 Kevin Hart, as much as people want to talk shit about Kevin Hart, Kevin Hart was the same
01:01:44.320 situation.
01:01:45.300 Kevin Hart was always down with whatever the newest thing was, was MySpace, Twitter.
01:01:50.080 I remember Kevin Hart had 60,000 followers on Twitter.
01:01:52.800 And he was trying to be like, yo, I can get you some followers.
01:01:54.660 Now, that dude's out of, he's just on another level.
01:01:58.600 He's a rock star.
01:02:00.100 But he planted that.
01:02:01.800 And like you were saying about waiting for the networks, they didn't wait.
01:02:04.060 Those people didn't wait.
01:02:05.340 So by the time the networks got caught up to them, they was already speed fast.
01:02:09.180 They was already ready.
01:02:10.500 They was already ready.
01:02:11.720 You know what I'm saying?
01:02:12.240 And that's what you said is important.
01:02:14.440 You know what I'm saying?
01:02:14.740 A lot of times in this business, we want to swing for the gate all the time.
01:02:19.520 Sometimes a base hit is good.
01:02:20.980 Sometimes a bun is good.
01:02:22.060 But you got to know that.
01:02:22.840 And that's what separates the different people.
01:02:25.100 Now, you look at Bill Burr.
01:02:26.020 I look at Bill Burr 13 years ago.
01:02:28.360 He's the best.
01:02:28.680 He was opening on our show.
01:02:31.780 And now this dude's doing Madison Square Garden.
01:02:35.080 And here's another thing, how stuff's supposed to inspire you.
01:02:38.340 I see that.
01:02:39.160 I know how funny he is.
01:02:39.780 I know how funny he is.
01:02:41.020 But it gives you a sense of know that you're from a place where it could happen.
01:02:44.200 Right.
01:02:44.740 You know what I'm saying?
01:02:45.160 You look at Bill Burr.
01:02:45.860 He's like, this dude, we were doing the same club.
01:02:47.320 It could happen.
01:02:48.160 Who's going to put the work in?
01:02:49.380 Right.
01:02:50.640 Where do you get some of your own work ethic, man?
01:02:52.760 Because it's really interesting.
01:02:53.620 Because especially you were like, I mean, you're a little bit older than me.
01:02:57.060 I'm 38.
01:02:58.080 But when I was growing up, they didn't have, they had, our town was maybe, my environment
01:03:08.760 was probably like half black and half white kids.
01:03:10.940 Right.
01:03:11.180 And a lot of them didn't have like a lot of, you know, leadership or direction.
01:03:15.660 They probably didn't have a lot of, you know, role models and stuff, you know.
01:03:18.860 And I knew that because I didn't have a lot of it.
01:03:20.900 So I would spend time around a lot of those kids.
01:03:23.500 So where did you get, and a lot of them were done with school at seventh grade or eighth
01:03:27.620 grade.
01:03:27.840 I mean, done.
01:03:28.600 Right.
01:03:28.640 You know, 70% of the black kids in our school were gone at eighth grade, you know.
01:03:32.680 Right.
01:03:32.880 I think in the South, it was just, you know, it's just a different, it was a different
01:03:36.640 place.
01:03:37.000 And this is, you know, 20 years ago, 25 years ago.
01:03:39.100 But where did you get, like, what kind of kept you in a different lane to have, you know,
01:03:44.540 at least some of the, you know, mental capacity, you know, that you had when you were young,
01:03:48.920 do you think?
01:03:49.320 Well, my mom, my mom was a very, very loving mom.
01:03:55.040 My dad was a guy that was in and out of jail.
01:03:57.600 You know, my dad was a, he was a heroin kingspin in D.C.
01:04:01.520 And black people always loved the fact that they could tout what level your dad got to.
01:04:05.700 He was big time, and he chose a lifestyle where he didn't get a lot of chances to spend
01:04:10.320 with his kids like he wanted.
01:04:11.980 But my mom always instilled love.
01:04:15.420 Yeah.
01:04:15.920 She was on her.
01:04:16.980 She wasn't, like, upset that she was raising us pretty much by herself.
01:04:21.180 She never made excuses.
01:04:22.140 She spent time with us.
01:04:23.660 At the end of the day, it's the time that your parents spend with the kids.
01:04:27.320 If you see any kid that's, like, kind of out of line and crazy or whatever, you know,
01:04:31.940 there might be cases where it's not that way.
01:04:33.360 You could break it down.
01:04:34.240 Yeah.
01:04:34.640 You could break it down like, oh, I see why.
01:04:37.420 Mom always had a babysitter.
01:04:39.220 Yeah.
01:04:39.400 Mom always in the club.
01:04:41.120 You know, he always saw mom come home with the just got smashed outfit and stuff like that.
01:04:45.540 But I contribute, you know, the kids know what happens.
01:04:48.820 Yeah, no, I know.
01:04:49.820 Or kids feel something, yeah.
01:04:51.520 I contribute a lot of that.
01:04:54.940 And I don't know if it's work ethics as much as just thought on life.
01:04:59.740 You know what I'm saying?
01:05:00.100 My mom always just said, you know, we don't have life, but it always can be, you know,
01:05:04.140 it's a lot of people that's doing a lot worse, and you work hard enough, you can do better.
01:05:08.120 You know, but I just think that my mom just created the type of love and the environment
01:05:12.280 that I only wanted to do well, and I cared about what she thought, and I always wanted
01:05:16.840 to make my mother proud.
01:05:17.840 Yeah.
01:05:18.140 Some people don't give a fuck about what their parents think about them.
01:05:20.600 I wanted to make my mother proud, and even when my father was locked up a lot of my life,
01:05:24.800 I wanted to make him proud.
01:05:25.900 Yeah.
01:05:26.300 I wanted him to be proud of the fact that I'm creating a lifestyle and doing something
01:05:30.420 I love to do, and I'm not in prison.
01:05:32.240 I'm not doing something that could jeopardize my freedom.
01:05:35.520 Yeah.
01:05:35.760 And a lot of it comes from just wanting to do better and just wanting to be great.
01:05:42.700 Even when I started comedy, I never thought about money or anything.
01:05:45.800 All I wanted to do was be the baddest motherfucker.
01:05:48.600 Yeah.
01:05:48.920 And at the end of the day, if you're the baddest motherfucker, you know, the money will catch
01:05:51.580 with that.
01:05:52.120 Yeah.
01:05:52.380 Dang, man.
01:05:53.860 You got me fucking feeling all emotional and shit, man.
01:05:56.640 Dude, why do white people feel more emotional at, like, black movies that are, like, triumphant?
01:06:01.060 They don't feel more emotional than everybody does.
01:06:02.540 They do, man.
01:06:03.440 No, they just know that white people will express their emotions a lot faster than black people.
01:06:09.500 Yeah.
01:06:09.640 You know what I'm saying?
01:06:10.060 Black people, we're so afraid of being hurt or what somebody's going to think.
01:06:13.300 You're like, you're in a black neighborhood, in a black community growing up, the first thing
01:06:17.100 you tell a kid, don't cry.
01:06:18.240 Don't cry.
01:06:18.880 Right.
01:06:19.160 Oh, yes.
01:06:20.040 Your son, your son, your son got a broken leg.
01:06:22.740 Don't cry.
01:06:23.280 Yeah.
01:06:23.620 Don't cry.
01:06:24.280 Shake it off.
01:06:25.040 You know what I'm saying?
01:06:26.240 Your son got hit by two cars and they're like, don't cry.
01:06:29.880 Shake that shit off, yo.
01:06:30.820 Don't cry.
01:06:31.700 Yo.
01:06:32.280 Damn, that's a good point, bro.
01:06:33.720 I can remember seeing that so many times as a kid.
01:06:36.380 Yeah.
01:06:36.620 It's like, don't cry.
01:06:37.420 White folks will be like, all right, let's talk about it, Timmy.
01:06:39.660 Is everything okay?
01:06:40.480 Yeah.
01:06:40.920 You know what I'm saying?
01:06:41.500 Like, we just, we just, I don't know where it comes from, but we just built to be tough about
01:06:47.160 everything.
01:06:48.440 You know?
01:06:48.760 Yeah.
01:06:48.980 We don't get in our feelings, son.
01:06:50.460 Yeah.
01:06:51.000 We don't get in our feelings, you know?
01:06:52.400 And if you're getting your feelings, you go smack somebody.
01:06:54.160 Like, yo, I almost cried.
01:06:56.140 Smack you, son.
01:06:56.840 I'm good.
01:06:57.260 I'm good.
01:06:57.960 I'm good.
01:06:59.100 Schmoney.
01:06:59.500 Trade way all day, son.
01:07:02.160 Dang, man.
01:07:02.700 That's exciting, bro.
01:07:04.340 That's exciting, man.
01:07:06.120 What else can we talk about?
01:07:06.760 We had a question that came in, that came in for Donnell.
01:07:09.140 You want to play it?
01:07:10.220 Yeah.
01:07:10.480 Is it in headphones?
01:07:11.860 Or is it video?
01:07:12.820 It'll be in headphones.
01:07:13.760 Okay.
01:07:14.320 Man, I wish I was on that tour, dude.
01:07:15.680 It'd be fun one day if I got to go on the road with you, man.
01:07:18.000 That'd be crazy.
01:07:18.440 Yo, Debbie, we could come up with something.
01:07:20.360 I really would love to do a sitcom or something, man, or something.
01:07:22.880 Let's write it.
01:07:23.600 I know.
01:07:24.020 Let's write it.
01:07:24.800 We could do it.
01:07:25.340 Bro, if we took it in, we could do it.
01:07:27.240 No, we could not only do it, we could fuck it up.
01:07:29.000 Because things are about to switch.
01:07:31.180 You know, you have people that's getting opportunities.
01:07:32.860 I'm not saying they're not deserving of them.
01:07:34.220 But they just ain't putting it in.
01:07:36.980 You know, like, get your shot.
01:07:38.460 But when you get your shot, hit a three.
01:07:40.380 Yeah.
01:07:40.520 Hit a dunk.
01:07:40.940 I think we could do it.
01:07:41.860 Yeah.
01:07:43.220 Hey, from Houston, Texas.
01:07:45.460 I just want to call in for Donnell Duck.
01:07:50.840 I just want to say it's fucked up.
01:07:53.840 They joke on you on the Breakfast Club.
01:07:56.900 Like, it's making me feel bad.
01:07:59.860 And, like, I'm like, goddamn, why they got to do my boy like that?
01:08:03.200 But it's funny as fuck, bro.
01:08:05.340 But see, here's the thing.
01:08:06.060 Who is this dude?
01:08:06.680 Is this guy black or white, first of all?
01:08:08.520 He watching, he listens to the Breakfast Club.
01:08:10.340 He's black.
01:08:10.800 Okay.
01:08:11.140 No, not that.
01:08:12.000 So he's.
01:08:12.880 No, it's so funny you say that because wherever I go now, people are always like,
01:08:16.400 they say the same thing.
01:08:17.260 Why the Breakfast Club fuck with you like?
01:08:19.220 The Breakfast Club don't fuck with me like that.
01:08:20.940 They can't fuck with me like that.
01:08:22.580 But who, people cheer for me.
01:08:26.260 You know, even, you know, they cheer for me.
01:08:27.620 Oh, 100%.
01:08:27.900 You know what I'm saying?
01:08:28.360 They cheer for me.
01:08:29.320 So as much as they fuck with me, I know the funny story line of them fuck with me.
01:08:35.380 Yeah.
01:08:35.800 And me spoiling it.
01:08:37.000 You're seeing the bigger storyline of it.
01:08:38.120 I see the bigger picture.
01:08:38.860 Yeah.
01:08:39.140 And I used to have issues with Charlemagne.
01:08:41.900 He's trying to, oh, he's not funny, blah, blah, blah, blah, until he came to Madison Square Garden
01:08:46.000 over for Dave Chappelle.
01:08:47.600 And he saw me open for Dave Chappelle, and I caught a standing note from the 6,500 people.
01:08:53.480 I stood up the whole, not Madison Square Garden, Radio City Music Hall, and I couldn't wait
01:08:57.600 to do the next interview with him on the Breakfast Club.
01:08:59.620 Yeah.
01:08:59.800 And he was like, yo, not for nothing, Donnell, you and Char, I mean, you and I was like
01:09:04.960 this, where you been?
01:09:06.040 You know what I'm saying?
01:09:06.720 And I could have been mad at Charlemagne and the whole relationship.
01:09:09.280 I could be like, fuck you, I'm not funny.
01:09:10.580 I was like, nope.
01:09:11.420 Wait till you come in my arena.
01:09:12.620 Right.
01:09:12.980 And then that's going to speak for itself.
01:09:14.140 See what I do.
01:09:14.760 Yeah.
01:09:14.920 But I appreciate what you just said, knows, that I know that there's people that's team
01:09:20.000 Donnell, and they like what I'm doing.
01:09:21.800 So I'm always going to be the fourth member of that show, and I'm always going to have
01:09:26.300 fun with them.
01:09:26.800 And at the end of the day, that's my family.
01:09:28.180 I've got love and respect for all of them.
01:09:29.680 But we're here to make comedy and make entertainment.
01:09:33.220 Is it fun to go in there and, like on Breakfast Club, is it intimidating in that environment?
01:09:38.980 You don't get intimidated, it doesn't seem like a lot of times.
01:09:40.580 It's easy for me, because I used to do morning radio.
01:09:42.700 Oh, wow.
01:09:43.260 So I had a background, I did morning radio with Envy.
01:09:46.960 I do morning radio, and it's weird, when I come on here, sometimes after I get off the
01:09:51.620 show, I'm like, oh, I didn't promote this, I didn't promote that.
01:09:54.400 But when I'm up there, it's almost like I'm a part of the show.
01:09:56.740 Yeah.
01:09:57.240 You know what I'm saying?
01:09:57.640 I could really be on the show.
01:09:59.980 Right, it fits in.
01:10:00.700 Yeah, I don't, they don't.
01:10:01.740 It's not like you're a guest, it's like you just kind of fitting in.
01:10:03.780 I fit in.
01:10:04.380 Like when I go in there, people could, you know, like, some people get sensitive, he's not
01:10:08.600 asking that question, but I can navigate that conversation any way I want to, but I miss
01:10:15.320 doing radio, and they have respect for me, and I go in there, and I just have fun.
01:10:19.040 I think I'm the most interviewed guest on that show.
01:10:21.900 That's amazing.
01:10:22.920 And it's tough, because I had to go through people, you know, the trolls, like, damn, y'all
01:10:28.720 can't get no more guests?
01:10:29.880 How many times is this motherfucker going to be on the show?
01:10:32.560 But then I, you know, I'm sensitive.
01:10:33.540 Yeah, where's Mike Epps at?
01:10:34.860 Yeah, I was sensitive, but then I just let it, right, right, and what people started
01:10:39.560 to say was, like, he brings a different entity to the show, and when he's on the show, he's
01:10:44.660 always funny, so I could be on that motherfucker every other week.
01:10:47.220 Yeah.
01:10:47.480 As long as I represent him and be funny, that's it.
01:10:49.420 Yeah.
01:10:50.240 Was it, is it, does Charlamagne have a big, like, does he seem like he has a big ego,
01:10:53.880 or is he a chill dude?
01:10:54.740 I never met the man.
01:10:55.740 Nah, he doesn't.
01:10:56.360 I love their show, though.
01:10:57.340 I'll watch it.
01:10:57.940 Nah, he doesn't, he hasn't, he doesn't have a big ego, but, uh, uh, ego.
01:11:03.300 Ego, sorry about that.
01:11:04.660 You know, but, you know, you get a certain swag.
01:11:07.320 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:11:07.840 When you start getting a certain amount of success.
01:11:09.620 Yeah.
01:11:10.060 You know what I mean?
01:11:10.360 More people love you, the more people you're going to say, you know, I don't really give
01:11:14.000 a fuck.
01:11:14.600 Yeah.
01:11:14.940 You know what I'm saying?
01:11:15.680 I don't think his ego is taking him easy.
01:11:17.460 It's more swag.
01:11:18.260 Yes, it's more swag, and he's a person that doesn't bite his tongue.
01:11:21.360 That's what people like about him.
01:11:22.480 He don't bite his tongue.
01:11:23.560 He's going to say how he feels.
01:11:24.600 A lot of people don't agree with it, but he doesn't waver for who he is.
01:11:28.040 He doesn't back down.
01:11:28.980 Oh, wow.
01:11:29.020 And that's why he like him.
01:11:29.760 Yeah.
01:11:30.000 You know, and he can't fuck with me, you know, pound for pound.
01:11:33.080 Really?
01:11:33.660 Yeah.
01:11:34.640 Not on a joke?
01:11:35.300 What are you going to do?
01:11:35.820 No, not on a joke, no.
01:11:37.360 But if you guys had to wrestle or something, would you do it?
01:11:41.580 I'm of the age where I don't take chances on shit like that.
01:11:44.920 Yeah.
01:11:45.880 I learned my lesson.
01:11:47.100 I tried to dunk on an eight-foot basketball rip two years ago.
01:11:50.280 I popped my patella, and anything physical is over.
01:11:54.160 If it's not treadmill, I could jump in and jump off.
01:11:56.300 And I also have two fights that were captured on TMZ that I didn't connect.
01:12:00.660 I didn't connect, so I don't want that three-strap.
01:12:02.760 I'm just going to stay away from that shit.
01:12:04.540 That's where you go get the strap, get the goons for that.
01:12:07.240 And my goons usually have Jewish last names now, so we're not going to fight you in the
01:12:11.400 street.
01:12:11.620 We see you in court, bitch.
01:12:13.020 These Israelites, man.
01:12:14.640 No doubt.
01:12:15.080 It's definitely changed.
01:12:17.520 Your mother's in town for the holidays?
01:12:19.400 No, my family's on the East Coast.
01:12:21.620 Yeah.
01:12:21.780 Yeah, but I have extended my brother, one of my brothers, he's here, so I'm going to
01:12:26.040 have Thanksgiving with him.
01:12:27.120 Nice.
01:12:27.600 Do you make your mom laugh?
01:12:30.000 Always.
01:12:30.580 Yeah?
01:12:31.080 Always make my mother laugh.
01:12:32.240 And I make my mother laugh in some of the most painful moments.
01:12:35.460 You know what I'm saying?
01:12:36.200 That's just what our family was.
01:12:37.740 It could be a dark situation.
01:12:39.360 Yeah.
01:12:39.780 You always could find a place to laugh.
01:12:41.920 I remember one of the things that pushed me in the direction of comedy, late at night
01:12:45.580 when I was making my mother laugh, and she was like, boy, don't tell another joke
01:12:49.820 unless you're going to make some money doing it.
01:12:52.020 And that started me to think about it, and then I think shortly after that, I started
01:12:55.700 doing it.
01:12:56.120 Yeah.
01:12:57.080 Yeah, it's nice when a kid can make their mom laugh.
01:12:58.920 I think it makes them feel good, you know?
01:13:00.280 Yeah.
01:13:00.900 If you can't make your mom laugh, then you might think of a different profession.
01:13:03.920 Because your mother's supposed to laugh at everything.
01:13:05.660 Your mother's supposed to laugh when people think, say, you're the most handsome person.
01:13:08.460 You're supposed to be the best-looking person in your mom's face, in her eyes, and
01:13:12.380 everything.
01:13:13.380 Yo, what type of...
01:13:15.040 If you don't get support from your mom, your shit is done, son.
01:13:18.220 Okay.
01:13:18.960 You're about to buy that stock pump or in line.
01:13:21.780 You're about to buy an assault rifle.
01:13:24.660 Bro, why does it seem like all tall black guys, if they don't play ball, they work at
01:13:28.500 the airport?
01:13:29.120 Is that a real thing, or is that just my imagination?
01:13:30.900 Yo, that's your imagination, man.
01:13:32.340 It is funny, son.
01:13:33.920 That is funny.
01:13:34.780 I don't know.
01:13:35.240 Maybe they're good at putting the bags up there.
01:13:36.520 Yeah, I don't know what it is.
01:13:37.540 Yeah, I don't know.
01:13:38.660 That's fucked up.
01:13:39.340 Because if you're 6'7", and you ain't playing basketball, you got to answer that question
01:13:42.720 for the rest of your life.
01:13:44.760 For the rest of your life, you're 6'8".
01:13:46.060 No.
01:13:46.720 And then you got to start making up shit.
01:13:47.980 I played in China, and then I tore my ACL, and then I just got a job at the airport,
01:13:53.480 bro.
01:13:54.560 Word.
01:13:54.880 We'll put your tour dates and stuff at the front, so people will know about it.
01:14:00.080 Yes, sir.
01:14:00.780 Happy Thanksgiving, Donnell Rollins.
01:14:02.240 Happy Thanksgiving.
01:14:02.860 Good to see you, brother.
01:14:03.660 Yeah, you too, man.
01:14:04.220 Thank you.
01:14:04.560 Now I'm just floating on the breeze, and I feel I'm falling like these leaves.
01:14:11.160 I must be cornerstone.
01:14:16.300 Oh, but when I reach that ground, I'll share this peace of mind I found.
01:14:21.780 I can feel it in my bones But it's gonna take a little time
01:14:30.960 For me to set that parking brake And let myself unwind
01:14:37.620 Shine that light on me I'll sit and tell you my stories
01:14:47.280 Shine on me And I will find a song
01:14:56.460 I will sing it just for you
01:15:00.160 And now I've been moving way too fast
01:15:07.300 Ladies and gentlemen, I'm Jonathan Kite, and welcome to Kite Club,
01:15:11.660 A podcast where I'll be sharing thoughts on things like current events,
01:15:15.700 Stand-up stories, and seven ways to pleasure your partner.
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01:15:27.840 You have three new voice messages.
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01:15:33.720 I've been talking about Kite Club for so long.
01:15:36.420 Longer than anybody else.
01:15:38.040 So great.
01:15:38.660 Hey, sweetheart, here's a deal.
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01:15:48.480 I'll take a quarter pounder with cheese and a McFlurry.
01:15:51.420 Sorry, sir, but our ice cream machine is broken.
01:15:53.500 Oh, no.
01:15:55.800 I think Tom Hanks just butt-dialed me.
01:15:58.180 Anyway, first rule of Kite Club is, tell everyone about Kite Club.
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