E279 Neal Brennan 2
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2 hours and 8 minutes
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186.67358
Summary
Comedian Dave Chappelle joins Jemele to discuss his new show on Comedy Central, The Dave Chapele Show, and how to deal with the sun. He also talks about how he got sunburned by his own dad and how he dealt with it.
Transcript
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Oh, today's episode is brought to you by Gray Block Pizza, and this is a pizzeria that has
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just pizza and things that are going to really make you feel good inside of your mouth and
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Today's guest is making his second appearance on this past weekend.
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He is the co-creator of The Chappelle Show, and he has some specials on Comedy Central.
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Went to a hotel, called the hotel, said, hey, can I go out to the pool?
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It was like a gay guy, and so I think out of the gate, it was like, you know, and I don't
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Like, so, you know, he was like, yeah, come on over, you know, and then I-
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And I called, I went over there, was the only person at the pool.
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I went with Max's girlfriend, and we sat out there and just caught some sun, and here
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You're a slave to the, like, if sun sees you, it's like, oh, yeah, we're bidding on this
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Every time you leave your house, it's gotta be like that.
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My dad used to get, again, my dad's ten kids, angry, violent, all the shit.
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He grew up one of 13 kids, born in the Depression, like, crazy.
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I mean, it's, it's, he had such bad skin that we would, we would drop, like, we took
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a, we, we took a vacation in California one time and it's like seven of us in a station
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Uh, Neil Brent's definitely got cousins in Lompoc.
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So, my dad, the first day, got such bad sunburn on his hands that it bubbled up.
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And I even remember I was, like, eight going, like, you, wait, how much were you driving?
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Driving with black gloves on with, like, eight children.
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I suddenly see this being one of the animations.
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Can you imagine the fatherhood you have to have in you?
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Then to sit there and hold onto a steering wheel while your skin is bubbling.
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Just to take your ten kids to go see more family.
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Yeah, it was a, I don't know what made it work.
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I mean, I don't know what the, I mean, it's fucking crazy.
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But the fact that he, because then later I went to the Caribbean.
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If anyone's ever had blisters on the top of their feet, if I wouldn't rule it out for you,
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Like, you don't have, the ecosystem of your foot is so delicate.
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And I don't even know, it was like from 10 minutes in the ocean.
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But do you have to think about it when you leave home?
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Like, I feel like, you know, if you live in certain neighborhoods, you have to think like,
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Or, you know, like, if you live in like a, you know, like, when I was young, you know,
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ants was always like, oh, are there ants out there?
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But do you have to look, do you have to think about that?
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I'll, I'll think about, if I like, I live in Venice and sometimes someone goes like,
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Like, if it's on the, on the beach, I'll be like, oh, let's, let's talk about routes.
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I see you in the Caribbean going out to the beach at night.
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I got, the top of my feet got sunburned and I, and I like just put an aloe on there.
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Turks and Caicos sound like a couple of Latino hitmen, don't they?
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Little, they're at Mr. C's hotel this afternoon.
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But the new ones, I think are coming out with an American flag hanging off the back.
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We were talking about this yesterday, man, and it was literally the funniest thing that
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Just the fact that, well, Elon Musk tweeted some stuff.
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He wrote the, the quarantine is, quarantine is stupid.
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And then he's on some like free, let me open up.
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He wanted to open his business in, in Redmond, I think it is.
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He was just going to put his workers on the line.
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It's, he basically like all the people who, all the liberals who bought a Tesla are now
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Cause I love when anybody gets fucking fucked over.
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It's kind of like when Hulk Hogan started wearing that black stuff.
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Remember when he started wearing the black vest?
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And you tweeted something too about it, didn't you?
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I mean, I've tweeted like, I'm on the side of like scientists and stuff.
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I believe in electric, the electric future, brother.
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And the crazy thing about the cars is you can't lease them, right?
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I thought you had to own it so that it was going to be like, oh, here you go.
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Stuck with this electric American flag right there.
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How often do you hang out with your ex-girlfriend?
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She's pretty much like my best friend, I guess.
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Well, during quarantine, it's like you kind of.
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I think in the beginning, we hadn't been talking for a while.
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So I was like, you know, you just wanted to be around people that you cared about.
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Because when we talked at the beginning, you were like, it's fucking better be real.
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And I didn't know if maybe you knew something I didn't know.
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I mean, I think this thing's been pretty comfortable.
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It's like, this is a pretty comfortable national sacrifice.
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If you have either a savings or a thing you can do without it.
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If you're in the second month of using the twelve hundred dollar stimulus check and you
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are like, what the heck is going to happen next?
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And you're waiting on pins and needles for the government to send another check.
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That is truly fucking got to be horrifying and scary shit like hour to hour.
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And I wonder how then like at that point, do you like.
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Do you feel like you would batten down with like your wife and family or do you think you'd
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You know, like they're the ones bringing me down.
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People are all saying that domestic violence is going to go up.
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It but the stats I saw didn't go up that much went up like five percent.
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And there's always people beating chicks in the park bar over by where I live over by
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There's like Westwood is a lot of homeless people out there.
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People that are just, you know, not not home or just aren't going home basically.
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And they you can hear some serious fights at night.
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You know what's funny about fights at night is like you'll ever be like lying in bed.
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And it's like one forty five in the morning and you'll hear like and you're like, well,
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I hope that works out like I'm not getting involved in that.
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I'm not leaving bed and I'm not investigating in the slightest.
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Sometimes I'll be like, will you keep it down out there?
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Look, I don't know what y'all are going through.
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That is a funny thing where you're just like, yeah, good luck.
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Do you think sometimes I feel like if this is like our Vietnam, this is like the softest
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It's nothing, but it's nothing for us because just like Vietnam would have been nothing for
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I mean, if you were eight, if we were 18, we probably would have gotten drafted.
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Because I think they did like I would have been able to call or whatever.
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Um, the, uh, I feel like Southern people had to go.
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I don't I'm sure I'm wrong about that, but I think you were, they were probably more adamant
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It's like, they'd be like, you don't have any arms and legs.
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Or just, but I also feel like, like I in to my mind, Vietnam was all like, uh, black Latino
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That's where a lot of your white service people come from, I think.
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Uh, but it doesn't split it up by, it has all one side together.
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So U.S. has lumped it with people, but there were 1.1 million deaths on that side.
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Yeah, I went to a couple different spots, but I definitely went to LSU.
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It just seems so weird to be like, we're, I'm in one place.
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Is it, I feel like this is a, is it safe to describe your 20s as itchy?
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Yeah, man, I didn't, like, why are we here, man?
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Like, trying, because I don't know, do you talk about your 20s much on here?
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I don't talk, uh, I mean, honestly, dude, it's hard for me to remember some of it, you know?
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Like, I mean, I remember in my 20s, you know, like, I'd done reality television, and then
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I moved, and then I traveled around a bunch to different schools.
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I just got a job in the bookstore on this cruise ship, and we went everywhere.
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Dude, you start to become, like, Lord of the Flies on it.
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You start to become, like, in the beginning, everybody's kind of chill, and you're like,
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So, by the end, by the end of three months, like, you would be literally sitting in class
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Everybody, like, you'd be trading, like, shoe polish for a little bit of liquor at night.
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Well, they had a bar, but you, if you wanted your own liquor, you could only have two wines.
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Oh, it must have been 18, I think, because you're out in the ocean.
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Because once you get out in international waters, it's.
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I didn't even, I wasn't even doing drugs at that point in my life.
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I didn't even drink that much, but, yeah, every night people would go drink, play games.
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If I have sun on me, I'd definitely look better.
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Because if you get a tan, it kind of makes your nose look a little smaller and stuff.
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Brendan said I should wear a thong on my nose sometime, which is pretty good.
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I do hope one day my nose isn't a little boozy video.
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I mean, if you knew Spanish, it definitely helped.
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But it was like a four-hour speech about how the stuff that he did in Cuba, like the things
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He kind of had, it was kind of like a little bit of like a, I don't want to say like a
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Mexican Phil Jackson kind of, but he kind of had that.
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He kind of had that island-y Phil Jackson kind of vibe, you know?
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And then some kid ran down there and wanted to get his passport signed by him and everybody
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That's because I feel like you, I was, I was at CVS yesterday and I thought about you for
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There was a lot of, there were just, at one point were you like a flip-flop person?
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I, cause there were just flip-flopping when I was like, I feel like Theo was probably this
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at some point, maybe when you're on the real world or the, or those shows, were you kind
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I mean, I definitely remember in my twenties, man, it's so, it's so crazy.
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A lot of that part of my life, just, just those years just kind of blur out.
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I remember going to like, you know, I went to different colleges.
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In your twenties, I was more like, you know, muscular kind of big hair kind of guy.
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Just, you know, happy to be alive, you know, took a lot of erection pills back then.
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I had a lot of like social life, sexual anxiety in my twenties and it was hard to get them.
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Hell, we have some, you know, you know, you can smell Nick's breath and catch a boner.
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And I mean, you know, I'm just saying like every, everything in here is probably sponsored
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by a buddy of mine reminded me of a story yesterday where he, he had, he was in a relationship.
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He had ED with the girl cause like he couldn't get over her ex.
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Like, she's like, you don't think I'm good looking.
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First of all, took the bus to the, to the erection doctor, which you don't just right
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Well, taking a bus will keep my dick down for a fucking half.
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So the erection doctor gives him, uh, basically, I think it sounds like a, uh, Cialis or something.
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Uh, and he goes, you're going to get an erection.
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And at a certain point, like if it, if it doesn't go, if it, if you don't get an erection
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And, and, but if it doesn't go away, you got to come back.
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He goes to see the Mel Gibson movie payback and just gets a rod, just like a rod where
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He goes to the bathroom and it's like all purple.
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So he literally like run kind of shuffles back just kind of with an open boner through
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And, uh, the doctor, he said the doctor looked at it and you know how the doctors aren't
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He could tell the doctor kind of was like, Oh, and then he's like, all right, we're going
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And, uh, yeah, it's not like it's a flag at a funeral.
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Um, so, uh, uh, so he, he, he goes, the doctor literally says my buddy, he takes out
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like a huge, like a huge, uh, syringe and he says, my buddy, you're going to want to
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grab the bottom of the table, which is like, God damn, he sticks it in his dick, the blood,
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my buddy said, spurred it into the syringe and, uh, took it.
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And then like, just, he just drained the blood out of his, out of his dick.
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But my buddy said 20 years later, he still has a scar on his dick.
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Uh, this same buddy has one of my favorite stories is, you know, the hill on La Cienega by
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And, and my buddy had, uh, a, I don't even, I guess.
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I guess he had a stick shift, but he went on, he was on that like, like eight 45 in the
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morning and he couldn't, he couldn't get up to the point where he just was flipping
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out so bad that he caused like horrible traffic.
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And then he finally just had to like pull over into one of those driveways, like back up
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He, yeah, he just couldn't figure out how to do it.
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But like the tires were skidding and people were just going around them.
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So he just had to abandon his car after a while.
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You get a freaking rabbit halfway up a hill, man.
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My mom used to have one and we used to always have to give up on a hill, you know?
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Like you'd be going, you'd be like, oh yeah, there it is right there.
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And a lot of the gas was in the trunk too, the way they had them built.
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So it was like, that was one of the problems is a lot of the gas would just even weigh you
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It was a test of what, of, of, of, uh, hand eye coordinate, like figuring out you're going
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This house was getting scared and like getting more.
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Um, I have a, I have a segment that I want to play with Theo now and we talked about it
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I don't know if you were rolling, but that I look at Theo, the, the wonder of Theo is that
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I don't know what you're going to say from minute to minute.
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You're going to, so I, so the, my point is I don't know what, you know, I have no idea
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what, you know, as I told you, you, you do in your act, you look like a guy who, who
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I believe that you look like, uh, if, if I could be anywhere in the world, if you text
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I don't know what, so the question is, I don't know what, you know, and I feel like,
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you know, I know, you know more than I think, you know, but I don't know what the breadth
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So we're going to play a game show called, what does Theo know?
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Maybe you'll throw some music underneath this, some game show music, um, play along at home.
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Uh, no, I'm going to ask you questions and when, and then people will guess whether you
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You will, you will tell us, I'll tell you if I think, you know, you'll weigh in.
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I think I know, but I don't know what you know.
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You almost don't because of your age, but I believe you can muscle it out.
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But I know that because I'm a Dateline fanatic.
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Oh, I will go with this, uh, uh, uh, the quarterback, that legend, Jim, uh, McMahon.
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Who I met at a golf tournament out in Palm Springs and he had this little kind of thick
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And she said, he, he goes, this lady will always eat my butt.
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That's what he told me, which was kind of crazy.
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I thought the, that's the sort of thing I expected you to know.
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And bro, I watched him drink 18 beers, man, at this golf tournament.
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And he would stand up and he would say that about the lady and he would kind of, he had
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He was like, kind of pull his butt apart, which was crazy.
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And, uh, and I think I got high with them actually.
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So Sean Gale, Sean Gale, I don't know if was on that team that he might've been after
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that team, but I'll give you Sean Gale and I'll absolutely Jim McMahon.
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And I'm going to go your boy, Richard Dent right there.
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If you know Richard Dent, then you're going to get it.
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And I'm going to go with sweetness, Walter Payton.
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And I'm going to go with, um, of course, who else is it?
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I believe he returned his wife to heaven too, dude.
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Dude, black people used to have more, much more kind of old school names.
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They had like, it was before the apostrophes and the Quans and the.
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They had like Southern, they had like, uh, uh, uh, sharecroppers names.
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They had definitely like hold over like second, third hand kind of, yeah.
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Like, I remember like, uh, you'd meet a guy named Lilac or something like that.
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And you'd be like, that is a, you know, L-I-L, L-I-L-A-C.
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I read an article about Michael Jordan yesterday.
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where they said he used to be super disruptive in class
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With everybody being allowed to play everything.
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Audience, think about your answer before he begins.
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He's a, he's a, he's a political black director.
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I don't care about the direct, I mean, I, yeah, some of the movies or whatever.
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I mean, I liked definitely White Men Can't Jump and Poetic Justice.
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Yeah, I don't, I just think Western Times is overrated.
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I just, you know, he looks like somebody that fucking managed a, like a, like one of
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those places at the Dave and Buster's where you go cash in the tickets.
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He looks like the dude that managed that for like 40 years.
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And then I just don't think he made that much good stuff.
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That's the, I figure there might be a limit there, but I'm surprised, but I'm still surprised.
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Yeah, I mean, he started taking L's pretty regularly.
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So it's, Ray Allen plays like a college basketball phenom.
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And there's scenes where him and Denzel are arguing.
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And he makes like nine in a row from three at one point.
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But it's in the, it's in a scene and there's no edits.
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And it's fucking, you never see someone shoot like that.
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Because you just see a guy just make where you're like, are you?
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You know, you ever watch like Steph Curry videos where he's just like, and you're like,
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How long do you think Tekashi 6ix9ine will live?
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I don't, I think he, I just think someone's going to kill him.
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Like I don't, I don't, how desperate must a bodyguard be?
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I mean, you don't, I don't think you have a bunch of plans if you're a bodyguard.
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Then I want to be a different kind of bodyguard.
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Do you, but with that said, with that, will you be a little disappointed when he dies?
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He's like, he's like, if you remember that twilight zone where there's a thing on the
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wing, there's like a monster on the wing in the plane.
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That's the thing is I've never listened to his music.
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I will say I listened to XXXTentacion after he died and I was surprised by how good it was.
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Well, he's going to have to, it's going to be a unique world that he lives in because he's
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always going to have to be in hiding unless, does he have to go back to jail?
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Do you know, Nick, if he has to go back to jail after the virus?
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I think he's out because of the, I think he's out because, because he just did, he turned
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Did they even bust anybody that he snitched on?
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I don't think they, I don't think they would bargain.
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I don't think you would get a, uh, uh, plea deal if you didn't have good information.
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Cause that's my guilty pleasure is going and watching his stuff sometimes and seeing what
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He's yeah, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a living troll.
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He was saying that, um, Justin Bieber and Ariana Grande paid to get number one on the billboard.
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He was saying that like at the last minute people would buy, you know, listens to their
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But I mean, I think that kind of stuff has always been like those charts can be manipulated.
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Well, what's funny is like the song is called I'm back and they mad.
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Well, it's like, yeah, you, of course they're mad.
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He did lie or he snitched or whatever, but I can't believe there's so much.
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Is there a lot of like, is there a real code of conduct between some of these fucktards
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Like, I think the only, like, well, yeah, first of all, it's like, yeah, Kodak Black don't
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seem like he has a real code of conduct, you know?
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I think the thing is you're not, the one thing you're not supposed to do is you just can't
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If you're all doing crime, you can't, you can't flip.
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But that's the only, I think that's the, but none of them.
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Like none of them have like you, to your point, I don't think that they don't have a code,
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but it's, they start doing it cause they're desperate.
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And then it's like, well, they made that decision.
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They're going to turn cause they're just going to, what's the desk.
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And if you're in a desperate situation, he's going to take the, he's just going to continue
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That would be more, yeah, cause I don't, I'm sure his existence is a form of misery as
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like angry and fucking, ah, it's, it's gotta be scary.
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The constant like, Oh, them, them, them, like them, them, them.
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And everyone would be like, even the cops would be like, but is he now under with
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I don't think the cops are going to protect him, but I don't, I think the craziest program
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Name three people who have served as governor of California.
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I can't believe you're about to say who you're going to say.
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I can't believe that you, I, cause I didn't even remember this one.
00:39:27.560
I don't know if I remember it, but let me think, uh, uh, Reed, I think his name was
00:39:49.800
And, uh, oh, Villaragosa and, uh, Antonin Villaragosa.
00:40:01.740
I thought, uh, those were the ones I thought you would get.
00:40:07.140
There was a second governor of, he's really old, but his, his name was Sonny, James Rolfe.
00:40:18.460
That guy looks like he definitely has your, he would get sunburned.
00:40:23.500
He does, he would have to wear leather driving gloves if he drove my family around.
00:40:33.060
What do you, uh, are you like, what are you okay with right now?
00:40:38.440
Like, what are you okay with as far as like socially right now do you feel like?
00:40:50.880
Uh, because I don't, I mean, would I have a date over?
00:40:58.820
I don't think I would do that either in that I don't want someone I don't know at my house.
00:41:07.960
The problem was that was like my, I mean, I would just go like, let's just go to my house.
00:41:14.660
Yeah, it's nice, but it's not like, hmm, it's nice.
00:41:16.940
But it's meaning I'd rather do that than like, let's go to the fucking bumper car or whatever people do on dates.
00:41:26.560
So that really reduces what you can do on dates as you know.
00:41:30.920
You would rather take just a more low key approach.
00:41:33.000
Like let's just order some food and talk and talk and watch Netflix and talk shit.
00:41:37.560
And which, if you're going to make a move on a check, do you kind of do the couch kind of move?
00:41:45.100
But it's like, you kind of scoot closer on the couch.
00:41:49.020
You, I feel like most of my first kisses in the recent life have been in my car.
00:42:15.740
Like, are just driving a Tesla right now and be like, oh.
00:42:20.140
It's proving the opposite of what you wanted to signal.
00:42:23.560
Wait till one day he just presses a button and the Patriot plays on the dashboard of everyone.
00:42:28.740
So, it's been a MAGA, but on the couch, yeah, it's, I'm, rarely is it like the first kiss
00:42:38.340
Usually, it's in the car because we go somewhere or whatever.
00:42:45.840
What do you, like, this is always the weirdest moment, I feel like.
00:42:49.820
If, like, because you, like, I feel like, here's how you know, I feel like if a girl
00:42:54.200
doesn't want to kiss you, she gets out of your car real fast.
00:42:57.020
So, that's the vibe I kind of take is like, okay, there's an opportunity to kiss, maybe
00:43:02.740
I think if there's any delay, they, here's the, one of the, if there's a delay in like,
00:43:16.200
Now, if she, double check, sometimes they'll double check their bag to make sure.
00:43:23.320
That can sometimes be a faint, that can be like a fake out, that, like, kisser, that's
00:43:31.220
If there's just a delay and like a beat of like, huh, that's the time.
00:43:37.400
A thing that I do sometimes, Theo, is I will say maybe a half hour before I'll be like,
00:43:43.460
you know, I'm going to kiss you, just so you know.
00:43:59.100
Oh, I like, that's a good idea, because it's, it's like flirty, but it's kind of like.
00:44:03.420
It's flirty, it's, you're asking, you're basically asking for consent.
00:44:08.340
And you're asserting, you're being assertive, which women like.
00:44:11.220
Um, they like, like, I want a guy who's like assertive and like, so you just go, and then
00:44:24.540
Do you ever notice, like my whole life I've been like this?
00:44:27.400
Like, I've been like, so if you are like, I just don't know what I'm talking about.
00:44:32.600
And then my brain kind of shuts down and I can't even hear what I'm saying anymore.
00:44:41.300
No, it's like when they're, a bomb goes off in a movie where it's like.
00:44:49.960
That's what it's a bit like before you're going to move in for a kiss where there's a
00:45:01.600
It's a little heightened and there's a little like fear.
00:45:09.140
I'm always like, yeah, I love going to different places.
00:45:37.380
It was like, I was like in sixth grade, fifth or sixth grade.
00:45:42.200
And it was like sponsored by another couple who were hooking us up.
00:45:52.360
And so they were like, we're all going, let's go to the park, make out with Margaret.
00:46:10.600
Again, no one thinks you know Sense and Sensibility.
00:46:14.140
Dude, one of the best movies to take a nap to in the history of the world, put on Sense
00:46:19.740
Even the voiceover of Sense and Sensibility is a whisper.
00:46:28.580
The fucking King of the Gangsters also directed Sense and Sensibility.
00:46:34.120
So as they were going, Margaret, I was on the ground.
00:46:49.980
You just fucking tongue, tongue, tongue, tongue, tongue.
00:46:51.860
Do you think, going back to that space, that you opened your mouth and you opened your
00:46:56.980
eyes wider at the same time when they said that, just out of like some weird like.
00:47:10.020
You got to open your mouth because this isn't going to be anything.
00:47:55.220
This is the sort of thing I expect you to know, but if you told me you didn't, I, because
00:48:06.380
I feel like a carburetor takes heat off of the engine.
00:48:20.700
I like that you're trying to think of the times you've heard it, people talk about it.
00:48:26.580
A carburetor is a device that mixes air and fuel for internal combustion engines and the
00:48:50.460
All right, so that, I bet a lot of people are surprised you didn't know.
00:48:54.200
And I still don't even, now that I know what it is, I'm like, I don't really know what
00:49:03.960
It is part of the engine, but I don't, I, let's not count that one.
00:49:33.420
I'm going to go with autoimmune deficiency syndrome.
00:49:39.720
I believe it's acquired immune, but it might be autoimmune.
00:49:51.320
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00:50:07.560
I didn't think maybe that you had a neighbor that had polio.
00:50:14.240
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00:50:25.440
Think about AIDS, like really think about AIDS.
00:50:29.140
More than I think about STDs now, you would think, am I going to die from this?
00:50:34.340
Oh, I remember being so angry at somebody when I was young that I told people they had AIDS.
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00:55:28.620
Is do you, uh, do you, what are we talking about?
00:55:42.800
So, whenever, yeah, in my 20s, I had, I had pretty heavy erectile dysfunction.
00:55:48.460
I just had severe anxiety with what I had, sexual anxiety.
00:55:54.480
You, do you have, do you still have sexual anxiety or you have sexual?
00:56:03.180
Yeah, like, I still definitely have, like, some issues.
00:56:05.040
Like, if I get in a relationship, like, I don't, like, it's just tough for me to want to have sex if I'm in a relationship.
00:56:10.980
And do you, have you, like, talked to a therapist or anybody about it?
00:56:22.620
But it's not, like, performance, like, I'm not a man or I'm not going to be good at it or I'm not.
00:56:28.820
And when I was younger, I just didn't know what it was.
00:56:30.720
I just knew that I was just super, super nervous.
00:56:33.060
And so I remember going to the doctor one time and saying, look, I just want to make sure that I know that this is just in my head or if it's in my body.
00:56:42.580
Because this reminds me of the story you told me about your buddy.
00:56:51.460
I think if you're going to inject something to somebody's penis.
00:57:00.100
Yeah, this guy was like that monkey on the Donkey Kong just fucking humming barrels.
00:57:06.680
Like, he'd throw a barrel of softener at a dick on a ladder, you know?
00:57:16.700
And they say that it's going to get hard for a while.
00:57:23.260
And, and then you have to just monitor and let them know, like, how long it stays hard for.
00:57:29.560
And, and you basically just stay in this, I stayed in this room for like six hours.
00:57:40.360
And yeah, it starts to get, it gets kind of discolored.
00:57:46.340
It does, it's just too much blood trying to get out of your penis.
00:57:49.340
It's like all your blood wants to, it's almost like trying to, like your blood is like trying
00:57:52.920
to have a bloody nose, but it's in, but it can't.
00:57:59.080
But I ended up finding out, yeah, it's nothing physical.
00:58:11.660
Because the injection was just to make sure that blood, that the blood flow was working.
00:58:15.660
So it was like, okay, we're going to see how long these like things in your penis, blood
00:58:26.560
And I was just, not that you're supposed to be nice, I guess.
00:58:28.840
No, but it's, if you're dealing with dick stuff, it seems like, like, you know, be, be
00:58:39.200
It's, it's like a, it's a, it's a cause of fear and like vulnerability.
00:58:50.180
You know, I'll, I'll, I'll flirt with everybody, but, um, oh man.
00:58:54.700
But that, yeah, that was miserable, but it did help me realize, okay, it's nothing physical
00:58:59.740
Were you relieved that there was nothing physical?
00:59:04.520
I'm always like, maybe I'm not stretching enough.
00:59:06.580
Maybe I'm not having enough lemonade, you know, just anything.
00:59:09.200
It could be like, I don't know if I can have that.
00:59:21.620
Google was just a, anyone you were talking to was Google.
00:59:42.180
But anyway, so that was relieving just to know that.
00:59:44.220
But would you go down on women or do something to, to kind of take the focus off of you or
00:59:55.660
I would be like, oh, I got to go, you know, let me run something to eat.
01:00:02.780
And I don't have to be one of those people, even though I wanted to be one of those people.
01:00:05.520
But would you start, would you like get, would you, would you ever do the thing where
01:00:10.180
you give them an orgasm and then you like, oh, you know what?
01:00:17.200
Like, I'm not into it, like ejaculating or anything like that.
01:00:20.180
Like, that's kind of, I don't really do that anymore.
01:00:23.220
Like, if I'm doing sex, I'm not doing any, I'm more, I'd rather not ejaculate now.
01:00:30.280
I feel like it's almost, it's more avant-garde or something, or more, not avant-garde, but
01:00:36.060
This is where I go, I have no idea what you're going to say.
01:00:43.500
Well, I want to be on that, you know, I want to, I'm always trying to think of like, yeah,
01:00:46.200
I just, I don't know, coming on somebody seems old-fashioned.
01:00:50.580
Or ejaculating onto somebody just seems so like game.
01:00:58.200
Yeah, it's like ejaculating your own house, you know?
01:01:12.880
Yeah, it is so graphic and so like, it's crazy because women just like, you know, shake.
01:01:41.340
But yeah, man, that stuff was always tricking me.
01:01:43.680
And the worst thing is, is figuring out like being sexually comfortable for me anyway, the toughest thing.
01:01:49.060
It's just, you're like, man, I want to figure this out.
01:01:52.620
And you're like, I mean, I have to really 100% figure it out in this life, you know?
01:01:58.040
That's the, that's a funny thing where, I don't know if we talked about this last time, but it's like, yeah, I don't know.
01:02:06.440
Maybe there's not enough time in life for me to crack that.
01:02:15.620
It's a 190-year riddle, and I just can't, I don't have time.
01:02:20.620
I'm never gonna, there's no point in starting, because I'll never solve, it's not solvable.
01:02:26.640
Yeah, for, yeah, sometimes I think that about certain things, like, especially when it comes
01:02:30.120
to like, kind of relationships, and that comfortability, and that sort of thing, and the intimacy in relationships.
01:02:35.240
For me, I'm just like, man, and at a certain point, I don't want to endanger anybody else's
01:02:40.580
That's exact, dude, that's, and I don't know if we talked about this before, that's exactly
01:02:45.300
It's when guys, guys do the most damage when they think they can be good.
01:02:57.940
In the back of your head, you're like, you're fucking not normal and healthy.
01:03:00.880
But you're like, no, I want to be the kind of guy who seems normal and healthy, and you're
01:03:31.820
I will say, I don't have many, and it sounds like you don't have many.
01:03:36.920
I think that's one of the reasons, like, sometimes I like spending time with my ex-girlfriend,
01:03:39.840
because it's just, we at least, like, get along well, and it's easy.
01:03:47.360
The expectations are manageable, and I care about it.
01:03:49.260
It's like, and it's not like, we don't have, like, a real sexual, there's not that element
01:03:57.780
And so, it's like, I almost start to think sometimes, I don't know, man, maybe this is
01:04:02.320
crazy to think, but it's like, maybe I just would get married to a friend or something,
01:04:09.560
Well, then you're into, do you need a companion?
01:04:13.320
Because there have been times during this COVID where I've been like, man, I'm glad no one
01:04:19.900
Like, or I'll be here, I'll be like, someone would have had, a girlfriend would have been
01:04:23.980
here the whole time and would be with me right now.
01:04:32.300
And that's where I'm like, I'm not, I don't think I'm built like that.
01:04:44.660
But do you think you would like to challenge it?
01:04:46.820
Because I think that too, for myself sometimes, it's like, okay, sometimes I think, well, then
01:04:51.180
maybe I, but am I willing to challenge myself enough?
01:05:04.880
There's something about some guy, seeing some guy, you know, right before he dies, and
01:05:09.900
his wife's right there, and he's like, I fucking did it.
01:05:14.720
You know, there's some element of like, I respect that guy.
01:05:18.140
When I see that guy, dude, and his wife is saying something, and he hadn't heard of her
01:05:27.420
There's a level of like, why should I salute that guy?
01:05:34.880
If the places are traded, if she's in bed, she's on a deathbed, and he's been a loyal
01:05:43.520
I mean, I think, yeah, I think it's great what she's doing, you know?
01:05:48.460
Like, I only, I guess I'm thinking specifically from a man, you know, like...
01:05:51.840
Well, that's the thing of like, the men, sometimes it's not hard to be around women, but like,
01:05:58.960
we don't have a ton in common, just like, naturally, like, where we, the stuff we talk
01:06:04.820
about, the way we deal with each other, like, men fuck with each other constantly.
01:06:11.320
And we're interested in different shit, like, women generally don't love violence the way
01:06:19.440
There's just like, a lot of significant differences.
01:06:21.980
There are a lot of ways in which we do line up, but then there's a lot where we don't.
01:06:26.080
So, I don't, sometimes I find that I can't, the good stuff isn't worth the bad stuff, meaning
01:06:34.420
the stuff where it's like, butting heads isn't worth the, like, nice parts.
01:06:42.660
But it's like, it, it, so I, I can get through this.
01:06:47.640
I've stayed in relationships I didn't, shouldn't have stayed in.
01:06:51.180
Because of, like, I wanted to make a fucking effort.
01:07:09.580
And that's the thing that bothers me about kind of societal norms is like, you should.
01:07:18.040
It doesn't mean, it's just a thing that I got through.
01:07:20.720
It's not a thing that, why do you want me to do a thing I don't really enjoy?
01:07:28.060
There's my, I'm also saying I wish I enjoyed it more.
01:07:30.240
I wish I was an easier, I wish I had an easier personality.
01:07:33.720
But there's something also then about being part of, but I don't know, but I agree.
01:07:38.500
And then I think like, but then also there's probably somebody that, you know, needs to be
01:07:42.940
loved out there and I could do my best to help them, you know, or to love them, you know?
01:07:48.860
There's billions of people that need to be loved.
01:07:51.720
So then if you could just get one, you know, get them in the house, you read together sometimes.
01:08:06.140
I think some of them, it's, you guys are each other's pets almost in a way.
01:08:18.400
And I got him a shirt and I got him the douche.
01:08:31.180
But getting up, being alone, being alone isn't fun either a lot of times.
01:08:36.100
Being alone long term, I think it gets lamer, though.
01:08:40.420
As we, as we get further into our lives, I think it gets lamer.
01:08:45.920
And sometimes you're like, can you still relate to people as much?
01:08:51.300
People start thinking you're homosexual as well.
01:08:56.600
He can't, you know, his wife, you know, he don't have a wife.
01:09:07.860
Yeah, no, that's the joke I was, I did a joke about.
01:09:19.500
Oh, yeah, you're getting into that freaking, yeah.
01:09:29.780
Yeah, so, like, I'm in the fucking, I'm in the, like, the, I used to do a joke, like,
01:09:35.080
women would give me more credit if I'd been married and murdered my wife.
01:09:39.660
Then having never been married, like, something's the matter with you.
01:09:42.700
Yeah, most of my, the biggest thing I feel like I want, I just want to apologize to any
01:09:47.920
women that I've ever been in a relationship with.
01:09:50.880
I think what we're trying to say here is, sorry.
01:09:55.800
But I bet you're a decent, I bet you're, like, nice.
01:10:04.660
I mean, I have, like, I have a, like, jagged personality, but I'm not, like, an asshole.
01:10:09.280
When I was young, I had some separation disorder, though, definitely.
01:10:12.840
Like, I remember my first girlfriend, like, she, you know, kind of banged some other guy,
01:10:26.900
And I was going to start with the hair, you know?
01:10:31.400
Hiding outside of a girl's apartment, you know?
01:10:33.280
I mean, that's, that's, I don't think you would have done that for no reason.
01:10:38.980
You know, that's, some of that's that young, that young shit.
01:10:41.540
Yeah, like, you don't know what else, you think that's, well, now I have to put Nair in
01:10:52.120
Yeah, this ends with her looking like a little bit of.
01:10:55.960
Like, like, not Doc Rivers, I don't know who I was thinking of, but she didn't, one of
01:11:05.040
And I didn't know, I didn't know anything about it.
01:11:06.860
I mean, Nair is such a strong smell, they can tell instantly.
01:11:23.800
It smells like, oh, wow, this is kind of cool, but then you're like, oh, this could be really
01:11:27.820
I had a Theo thought one time where I was thinking, and I was like, I should give this to Theo,
01:11:33.300
where I was thinking about sex, like the smell of sex afterward.
01:11:41.540
And I had the thought, it smells like people been doing arts and crafts.
01:11:46.820
And then I thought that I should give that to Theo.
01:11:52.580
Did you ever, I don't even know why I'm talking about all this today, but did you ever feel like
01:11:56.200
one of your underarms smelled like vagina sometimes?
01:12:03.280
What's the longest you've gone on COVID without taking a shower?
01:12:13.440
If I'm not feeling good, I'll have to go back to sleep and restart my day.
01:12:17.000
That's why I'm one of those kind of people, like, I have to take a nap.
01:12:20.300
Like, if I get real angry or anything, I have to take a nap and then kind of restart my day.
01:12:29.380
But if I can't do that, if I can't fall back to sleep, I'll take a shower.
01:12:33.100
And so that'll get me, it's like a recalibration.
01:12:50.940
Yeah, I think I went four days during COVID, and it smelled like Wrigley Field after the
01:13:12.180
If you've been to Wrigley Field, they used to have, like, trough urinals.
01:13:42.240
So, and up top, it smelled like someone was making soup.
01:13:54.960
But do you ever have that, do you ever notice one of your underarms and be like, oh, wow,
01:13:58.380
that smells like a wimp, like a female's kind of.
01:14:02.460
I mean, I think it's the same dynamic, which is.
01:14:14.980
Because I always thought I was the only person and I can't tell anybody this.
01:14:17.660
I always felt like it was this crazy secret that I had like a vagina under, like, or
01:14:23.560
Like when you're young, you think like, oh my God.
01:14:25.480
You know, there's like a woman trapped under my arm.
01:14:51.100
I think he knows literature quite a bit, actually.
01:14:56.860
And I'm going to go with Sun Also Rises and Moby Dick.
01:15:06.180
I had the same thought and I can't remember who wrote Moby Dick.
01:15:24.000
No, I just knew that one they had us read in high school, Ernest Hemingway.
01:15:40.160
He was like super into like outdoorsy guy shit, right?
01:16:36.500
Here we got The Old Man and the Sea, For Whom the Bell Tolls.
01:16:43.240
That is Hemingway, Books, In Our Time, Sun Also Rises, Fairwood Arms, Do Have and Have
01:16:50.340
Not, For Whom the Bell Tolls, The Old Man and the Sea.
01:17:06.620
I've never been where people are like, people were saying early like the comedy middle class
01:17:13.300
People that are open micers that work day jobs will be fine and then headliners will be okay.
01:17:19.960
I don't know if anyone's going to have to stop doing stand-up.
01:17:27.740
Like, I don't think anyone, I don't know how many clubs are going to shut down completely,
01:17:36.200
Well, yeah, I mean, there's less money coming in.
01:17:38.760
I mean, we had Brad Williams was on the other day.
01:17:40.460
Yes, I think that there will be less money, but I don't think it'll be, you can no longer
01:17:50.160
It'll, for some people, it will be a worse living, but I don't know.
01:17:54.640
I was supposed to start a show in New York, like a one-man show, May 5th.
01:17:59.600
And had the theater and everything, and then it's just gone.
01:18:06.340
It's interesting because you can fly on an airplane.
01:18:13.000
Well, that's what the, I read yesterday, I think 50% of, like, hospitality and live events
01:18:25.900
But then there's, I read another thing where they, there are venues like 300 Seaters are
01:18:34.680
basically saying to headliners, like headliner, headliners, like there's a place called City
01:18:42.340
There's like, in different cities, it's basically a live music venue or performance venue.
01:18:47.660
They, they basically said to headliners, like, we could have 80 people in here and you can
01:18:56.220
So there are, there are certain acts that are thinking like, I could charge 300 bucks
01:19:03.280
And if it's 80 people, that the gross is 24 grand.
01:19:08.680
Maybe I can walk with 14 or whatever, you know what I mean?
01:19:14.680
Like if you, if you have fans that can pay a lot of money, you could do shows tomorrow.
01:19:22.580
To, to, in order to enforce social distancing, you're going to, I, but I, once there's a,
01:19:27.900
let's say there's a vaccine in a year, I think it goes more or less how it was.
01:19:36.440
I think, yeah, I think you get back to, I mean, I think, you know, some of the clubs
01:19:44.460
They had a hundred people and 125 people in the ones that, in Oklahoma city and, and,
01:19:53.080
I just wonder if they're going to, you know, if that works, I can't see them after, you
01:20:00.220
know, a couple of weeks, not sliding in an extra table here or there, you know, or like,
01:20:04.060
yeah, I mean, a little bit of that's going to happen.
01:20:07.880
Will there be raids or will people, I, I had the thought and I, and I'm, I'm, I'm,
01:20:20.860
Meaning once this lockdown's over, they're not going to be able to do another one.
01:20:26.600
I don't, I just don't think people are going to go for it.
01:20:29.040
I don't know if, because I think now I think people are like, okay, we did that.
01:20:33.520
I think now too many people just don't know what to believe.
01:20:37.640
I also think even if there's a second wave in the fall, I think you're not going to be
01:20:45.300
I just don't, I think people are going to be like, nah, man, we did it.
01:20:59.960
It's, but I think for a lot of people, it's people are, even I'm not that social.
01:21:09.200
I don't think people are going to go for it again.
01:21:10.960
I think it'll be some of it on the right will be, we don't believe you.
01:21:14.420
And some on the left will be like, ah, come on, man.
01:21:24.140
And so that's the, I think that this, if there is a second wave, I think it's going
01:21:31.960
I think people are just going to be like, there you go.
01:21:36.920
You and Shaw were going to be fucking flying high.
01:21:41.540
I don't know if you, you could completely quarantine and not leave your house if that's
01:21:47.020
Like my mom's 87 and I've had to like yell at her and be like, look, stay home.
01:21:58.240
There's a, if you get COVID over 80, there's a 20% chance you die.
01:22:04.400
Now, having said that, there was a guy, show the picture of the guy who was at Miami music
01:22:18.040
He was yoked and then he, and then he got, is it Aaron Berg?
01:22:28.780
He probably, if you don't get steroids for a while, especially during this thing, then
01:22:38.140
I think this, I went to high school with this kid named Chris.
01:22:43.140
That guy is, he doesn't have any steroids left.
01:22:46.900
And if you completely stop lifting, you don't, you don't eat, you dehydrate.
01:22:52.520
So like it can, so he was in, he was in like intubated for six weeks and he thought it was
01:23:01.020
He like said to the nurse, I'm about like, Hey, so it's been a week.
01:23:05.300
You've been here six weeks living off the fricking government's dime.
01:23:35.300
I was joking on the way over here that there should be, uh, you know, like the NFL combine.
01:23:41.320
That should just be like, if you can run the 40 and under eight seconds, you're good to
01:23:48.780
Do you, uh, like people on the starting line with their book, it's going to be a high jump.
01:23:59.920
That, and I, but I, cause I truly don't believe they're going to be able to do it again.
01:24:03.260
I don't think, I think enough businesses will be like, I'm not going to have a business.
01:24:08.560
I think there's like a quarter of businesses are fucked anyhow.
01:24:14.720
I go to a trainer and see a trainer on the DL, you know, like, and it's, you know, they
01:24:18.680
have a curtain in front of the, you know, right when you said nobody could see.
01:24:22.060
I know people are getting like secret haircuts, back alley haircuts.
01:24:25.360
I went, got one yesterday at a garage over in Reseda.
01:24:32.460
She kind of didn't, she didn't do bad, but she didn't do great.
01:24:34.580
But, uh, what do you think about the Joe Rogan deal?
01:24:36.980
There I am right there in that garage in Reseda, man.
01:24:46.960
I felt like, and they were, her husband has two kids.
01:24:51.860
Is it, he's divorced, but he has two kids that moved to the town I'm from actually in
01:25:03.100
I mean, the daughter sounded hot, but she's young, you know, but that's what the lady said.
01:25:23.880
Um, cause the, like when Howard Stern went from radio to satellite, it was almost like
01:25:33.900
Whereas Joe podcast is already not, it's already like off the beaten path.
01:25:39.940
So I think he's not going to be reduced culturally at all.
01:25:48.100
I don't, I don't know how much that means to him anyway, but I don't, he's not going to
01:25:53.920
And, uh, it sounds like a lot of money and with very little downside.
01:26:06.560
I think there's a, there'll be a subscription if you don't want to listen to ads.
01:26:11.520
Um, it seems like he, I mean, he's like the guy to do it.
01:26:14.900
Cause he got, like you said, he got everything he wanted.
01:26:18.960
Uh, he can still put out YouTube clips, which is like his biggest growth.
01:26:23.220
More people watch his clips than his full episodes on YouTube anyways.
01:26:26.580
Um, yeah, I don't see, I don't see the downside.
01:26:28.640
People are like, Oh, Spotify might be able to control him.
01:26:33.460
I mean, he's the reason he's popular is cause he talks about 10 things.
01:26:39.220
I don't think they're going to be like, could you just focus on UFOs?
01:26:44.320
And also once, if he feels like if he even sniffs, like they're trying to control him,
01:26:52.320
I think that's why he said fuck this to YouTube.
01:26:53.620
Cause they are doing some of that slightly censorship thing.
01:26:57.800
I mean, just like if you talk about Corona, uh, they'll demonetize you.
01:27:03.980
And I think that kind of stuff could just be getting stronger, you know, as we go along.
01:27:07.000
It definitely seems like on Twitter, it's like extremely, it's a very liberal app.
01:27:11.240
It seems like, you know, like, um, so I think that, you know, I think that I could see some
01:27:18.640
of the other, you know, the giants, some of the other social media giants and YouTube's
01:27:23.880
almost, it's really kind of like social media in a way.
01:27:26.400
I mean, it's, but I'm curious to see what Spotify's new interface is going to look like
01:27:30.920
because if they're going to start video and they're going to have his full episodes and
01:27:35.180
then are they going to buy other stuff to supplement it?
01:27:40.960
I promise you they're going to ask you, Schultz, uh, Santino.
01:28:05.200
Um, so yeah, like I'm sure they've already asked Burr.
01:28:09.540
I'm sure they've already asked like the, I mean, they, Bill Simmons, they gave him a
01:28:16.400
I think 150, but the difference there, they bought the ringer actually.
01:28:28.720
So like they'll, they'll, you know, I think they'd rather have more than less.
01:28:34.460
I mean, I, but like a lot of my podcast is streams on Spotify.
01:28:43.160
And yeah, I don't think, I mean, and they're going to license, I guess at a certain point
01:28:48.880
Will they, will they take everything he has on YouTube and put it on to Spotify?
01:29:04.220
He's done maybe not 6,000, but definitely 3,000.
01:29:07.980
So I don't, I think it's good for both of them.
01:29:12.980
Like the, on the announcement, like they're, it's good.
01:29:17.200
I wonder what their platform is going to be like.
01:29:19.660
Are people, I mean, it is time for YouTube to have a competitor for sure.
01:29:24.380
And I don't know if that's the, that's YouTube is going to be hard to compete with because
01:29:29.420
they have a 15 year lead and they're owned by Google and like, they just have a lot of
01:29:36.600
But yeah, that's the, that's the, I'm, I'm happy for Joe and it seems like there's no
01:29:44.480
Uh, I'm in, I, that if that's a smart investment on their part, I said, I think I said to you
01:29:50.340
on the phone, the fact that comedy central or a network never got a bunch of podcasts,
01:30:00.160
video podcasts, and just put them on comedy central at 1030, the way he used to put Howard
01:30:11.500
It's still because you look at the amount of hits that we get.
01:30:13.960
You'd be like, those are better numbers than comedy central numbers.
01:30:19.320
And I think it's cause they didn't feel like they did it.
01:30:23.220
I remember even having love line on that was like having a podcast basically just sitting
01:30:30.860
But love line was the, like a produced version of the radio show.
01:30:37.940
They could have, what people didn't realize is this is enough.
01:30:43.540
They used to, I mean, Howard Stern used to show it and then they acted like, well, that
01:30:48.320
And then I guess I missed it on, he used to be on MSNBC.
01:30:52.800
It's going to be, I mean, it's definitely, it's definitely going to be interesting.
01:30:58.140
He uses, you know, he can have it back, I'm guessing, whenever he leaves.
01:31:08.060
Even though he's, he's been rich and now he's, now he's like getting to like wealthy.
01:31:16.880
He doesn't see, he just doesn't, hasn't really changed.
01:31:20.040
He hasn't, he looks, he looks like he'd look if he worked construction.
01:31:26.760
Like, I saw nothing's different, which is part of his appeal.
01:31:41.660
Can you pull up Andrew Schultz's video about Comedy Central, please, on his Instagram?
01:32:03.360
Oh, I heard like every exec at Comedy Central got fired last week.
01:32:11.080
I don't want to dance on nobody's beer, but that's what you get, you stupid ass.
01:32:44.280
I mean, I never understood, like, why they wouldn't just give people the benefit of it.
01:32:49.000
Like, meaning, sign people to, like, a three-year deal and go, just come up with a show for yourself.
01:32:57.160
And you can, and they go, all right, we'll shoot it.
01:33:03.020
Like, just, if you're, I have a theory that they didn't ever really like the shows that were hits for them.
01:33:24.940
That's the shit that keeps, like, review and, and Nathan for you, don't make money.
01:33:35.740
They thought, I think they didn't like the, they didn't like the tone.
01:33:40.520
It's just not, like, sophisticated and buttoned up.
01:33:44.240
So, it wasn't, Daily Show was kind of created in-house.
01:33:48.720
Doug Herzog, who was the president, was like, we should do, like, a sports center for the news.
01:33:57.660
And, and Colbert was a fucking great show, too.
01:34:00.580
Like, both very good shows and very profitable for them.
01:34:04.080
And then, but they're now, they had, all the people there had nothing to do with them.
01:34:09.140
So, they want to make, sort of, more broad city.
01:34:14.860
They made Jordan Kepler, whatever that show was.
01:34:18.860
They made a lot of stuff that I felt like was, like, very leftist, you know.
01:34:23.740
They didn't stay in the middle of the road at all.
01:34:26.940
The people that work there are not middle of the road.
01:34:29.400
They think Tosh is fratty and Chappelle Show is kind of fratty.
01:34:36.940
I just don't understand that, that you would, I don't know.
01:34:40.780
I just, it makes me mad because I went in there so many times and pitched them so many
01:34:44.540
I spent a year developing this really great project with them that I think I'm probably
01:34:47.920
just getting up releasing on YouTube, you know.
01:34:54.560
Yeah, I did a couple files for them and, and they didn't pick them up.
01:34:57.800
And I was always like, you don't want to just pick it up just because of Chappelle
01:35:04.660
Just maybe, I don't know, fucking maybe, maybe I'm, maybe I'm, maybe I'm good luck or
01:35:15.780
They just, I, I don't, I think certain people, they just don't.
01:35:19.460
They like who they like and they don't like who they don't like.
01:35:25.080
It's like a girl wants to sleep with you or not.
01:35:27.320
And you can't be like, don't you, look at this tie.
01:35:35.940
They like sophisticated, alternative, Williamsburg-y, Silver Lake-y.
01:35:42.800
That's their, that's their, the people who works there is personality.
01:35:53.120
Well, they hadn't had a Southern person on the network.
01:35:54.900
I can't even remember since when, you know, it's just so messed up.
01:35:57.860
Cause you, you know, they say they were like, oh, we want to, you know, we want to put alternative
01:36:03.460
But it's like to get from, you know, a place in like a small town in the South to get here
01:36:10.520
and then to be able to continue to like, you know, weave your way through this place.
01:36:15.600
And then you get to a level where you finally have some opportunity and they say, oh no,
01:36:22.240
It's like, do you know how fucking hard it was to do this?
01:36:24.780
Like it just, well, that's, I mean, the good news, it's not really progressive.
01:36:30.160
It's like progressive is, you know, I don't know.
01:36:35.060
It's, it is because it's like progressive should just be the funniest people, but then they
01:36:39.220
would get in trouble in the press and amongst their peers for not being more, uh, for not
01:36:48.580
Like, so it just comes down to like the, I, I told Charlemagne this one time.
01:36:52.080
I was like, white people don't make black movies cause they don't, they go to a cocktail
01:36:57.860
Making a black movie doesn't give you any cache.
01:37:00.800
They're like, oh, like if you made, if you make a, like a Coen brothers movie,
01:37:09.220
or if you make like, uh, if you make, uh, no country for old men or Fargo, that's, and
01:37:16.560
you go to a cocktail party, you're going to fucking run that motherfucker.
01:37:20.440
But if you are, if you make a Tyler Perry movie, right.
01:37:24.260
If you make the cupboard seven or whatever, yeah, like, so there's just no, there's like
01:37:30.020
less incentive and that's like with a lot of TV execs, they don't, their circle is all
01:37:39.600
And that's the thing I was saying to you on the phone yesterday.
01:37:41.200
It was like, as a comic, because we're comics, we travel all the time and we see people killing
01:37:53.180
So we, every night we get our point of view, like supported and not supported.
01:38:00.140
So we know like our, yeah, my point of view is funny and I think it's right.
01:38:05.900
And then I go on, I talk my fucking liberal shit.
01:38:09.740
Then you go on after me and do whatever I do, do your thing.
01:38:15.520
You do as well, better around the same, whatever.
01:38:18.340
So I can't be like, my point of view is the only point of view, like you can't as a comedian.
01:38:25.620
I cannot think that because a, I have to travel to Dallas and Houston and Austin and New Orleans
01:38:36.700
But how close minded is it to act like those people's sense of humor isn't relevant?
01:38:42.940
I just think that they're biased and they don't even, they think that people, those
01:38:46.920
people's sense of humor is less, is just less sophisticated.
01:38:51.680
And what I would say is they're not, they're obviously it's, some of it is, but there's
01:38:59.080
some dumb white, there's some like, it's not all fucking earnest goes to camp.
01:39:03.960
And in fact, a lot of people, that's so old shit.
01:39:07.560
It's almost like, but by alienating a lot of that part of the country, you alienate a lot
01:39:11.840
I mean, you alienate, I mean, you just alienate so much, you know, I just don't understand
01:39:16.380
So now the good news is you can do your own failed all your, all the way to the back.
01:39:24.540
Like you failed and no one, it's hard because it's almost like a marriage thing where we don't
01:39:37.700
You always want to think you want a fucking trophy and a party.
01:39:41.540
And the, and we'll never get like, you won't get press coverage for this.
01:39:46.900
You won't get, I think most people look at your views or downloads and be baffled.
01:39:54.980
For that, for just that, they don't understand.
01:39:59.720
So that's the great thing about doing standup is like, you just go, Oh, I'm not, I'm like,
01:40:05.020
I'm me, you, Joey, Joe, and Whitney could all go back to back.
01:40:13.360
And we all have completely divergent political points of view or cultural points of view.
01:40:21.000
I feel like a lot of times or how it should have been.
01:40:23.240
But they don't know how to, I think I told you that they didn't know the Chappelle show.
01:40:29.620
When we first started, they would, they would go like, this isn't, they like, wouldn't like
01:40:39.900
And then we'd show it to the crowd and it would kill.
01:40:42.500
And the first couple episodes, they were like, well, your crowd isn't our crowd.
01:40:46.140
It was like, what are you talking, it was just people with biases didn't want to believe
01:40:52.380
that this thing that they couldn't, if they didn't understand it.
01:40:55.280
And then finally, after six episodes, they said, we don't understand it.
01:40:59.420
And you can kind of do whatever you want because they didn't understand it.
01:41:03.400
I mean, it just, to just act like something doesn't exist.
01:41:11.900
It's the most, it's almost worse to me than like a, it's a racism in a way.
01:41:23.120
It's a, it's a, it's, it's like a cultural snobbery and it's cultural bigotry in a weird
01:41:35.080
Prejudging you because you have a mullet and you get your hair cut in a garage.
01:41:46.120
You're like a fucking, you're a fucking, you're a fucking gator man or whatever the fucking,
01:41:55.760
Like there, you're so far off the, but the good news is you can do this.
01:42:02.420
You can invest a little bit of money in your own cameras and you're, and you make great
01:42:07.660
money and you get the underdog status that is its own reward.
01:42:14.140
Like it's more rewarding than you would actually.
01:42:21.120
There's always a little something you want that wedding though.
01:42:25.520
You just want to be told you're part of the group.
01:42:29.800
It's like, it's the thing of like, oh, you don't exist.
01:42:33.100
It's like, man, that's how I felt most of my life.
01:42:36.600
And then I get all the way here to California to the place where it's like, come here.
01:42:41.460
If you feel like this and I get there and it's not even about feeling like that.
01:42:47.400
It's about, oh, it's really, oh, we determine if you are, are, are okay or not.
01:42:52.620
You're like, oh, so this is exactly the same thing that I did, that I disproved once.
01:42:59.900
This is exactly the same thing that ignited all this in me in the beginning.
01:43:10.300
And, and I think the, it's just, it's just, you know what it is.
01:43:15.060
It's like, it's, it's kind of painful and unfair.
01:43:20.620
It's like, and I don't, they, it's a limited thing.
01:43:25.660
I get that, but as people that feel like, Hey, we're sensitive and we work hard and it's
01:43:33.820
very hard to, and you have no, the amount of times I'm told you're invisible, people
01:43:46.400
I'm not, I'm talking about like in standup, anything in where it's like, I have big show,
01:43:55.560
And then I do a half hour Netflix popular and good.
01:43:58.240
And then like Dave Chappelle's getting honored by the Kennedy center and they go, will you
01:44:12.160
It's just like this constant heat seeking and it's never merit.
01:44:19.460
It's never just like, I think you're fucking funny.
01:44:22.080
It's just, no one's making any, it's just weird.
01:44:23.960
It's like, why would you spend your whole life afraid to make a choice or have people
01:44:28.740
on that are like, if you have a show and podcast or whatever, like just have people on that
01:44:33.880
you're fucking good instead of like, Hmm, let me see.
01:44:43.720
And that's, but that's what I like about Joe's success is that he truly just did the thing
01:44:59.800
He liked, and he just was like, Oh, talk about that.
01:45:06.100
And he had people on based on, I want to have you on.
01:45:11.320
I don't know anything about you other than I saw you and I thought you were good.
01:45:15.920
Not like, Hmm, there's no calculation and there's no like, well, you seem cold.
01:45:21.800
Are you like the, they just were like, you're good.
01:45:30.040
Um, that's what it's like, almost like the combine thing where I almost feel like if you
01:45:34.140
do a show and you get laughs above a certain decibel meter, you're good.
01:45:41.460
You can do, you're allowed to do whatever you want, not anything you want, but it just
01:45:45.000
seems like, well, what's the, it's just you personally, it's just, you say no and it's
01:45:49.840
not based on fucking anything other than your taste and your biases.
01:45:54.560
It's crazy how you can just, I'd never felt more.
01:45:59.060
Especially like right when all the Trump stuff or whenever like the political, I remember,
01:46:04.740
Oh, I just, cause I just like, man, I was like, man, I'm worth, this is where you're
01:46:08.840
supposed to come if you want to be open minded and think about things and you know, and this
01:46:14.840
is where, and it just wasn't that, it was just a lie, you know?
01:46:19.340
And it was like, oh, so you're telling me that we don't judge people, we don't look
01:46:25.840
at this, but then that's exactly what I worked so hard to get my head out of the ground on
01:46:33.260
Well, a lot of times it's like people, they don't, they're not against bullying, they're
01:46:37.640
not against racism, they're against bullying against them and bullying against racism against
01:46:43.620
their group or their, they're not against it at all, at large.
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So that's why I listen to the cost you six and nine.
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No, I know, I know, that's the thing is like, that's why it's like, I know, I know, and
01:46:57.960
You know, I know what you're feeling and that's like, like I'm a, like I was thinking
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on the way over here, like we're similar in that we're like not exactly of either thing.
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You're not exactly, I'm sure people in, in Louisiana think you've a little Hollywood and
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people in Hollywood think you're a little Louisiana and you're like, I, and I'm like
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a nerd, but all the nerds think I'm a jock and all the jocks think I'm a nerd and I'm
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like, and, and the, and white people think I'm black and black people think I'm white
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and I'm just like, ah, I, and you end up feeling isolated.
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And, and it's like a, it's a source of frustration.
01:47:46.520
Sort of frustration is also a source of though, like, I mean, you know, I'm kind of wallowing
01:47:50.620
I'm almost getting into self pity a little bit, but it's like, yeah, it's also a source of
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like, oh, this is what has probably always driven me.
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So, and thank, I'm glad they, that they served another dose.
01:48:01.300
I'm glad that you have guys like Schultz who are like, I'm free enough to say what I want,
01:48:06.560
But that's the great, but the funny thing is, uh, like all things comedy or any podcasting
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network is going to be more valuable in comedy central in five years.
01:48:20.180
So as much as it's like, it, it's just one of those things of like, you're getting, you're
01:48:26.900
40, you see cycles now and you're like, oh, fuck.
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What are DVDs like there's George Lucas made money on VHS, Laserdisc, DVDs, uh, and now
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Like you just have to stick around long enough to, and if you're, and I was talking to a
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And by the way, no one feels like they've made it.
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That's the other thing I've learned is no one feels like I'm on top of the world.
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Like they, everyone's like, has a list of fucking, uh, grievances and people that fucked
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them over and, and way things I'll, they'll never give me.
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Like everybody who's got it, who's a big singer and he's trying to get a, he's like, I need
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And you, if I'll tell you after who it is, you'll be like, that's so God, no one feels
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like they've done enough and no one feels respected enough.
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Even the, you know, the most legitimized people.
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Now I would say that you and I have a legitimate grievance.
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I think it's, and you want to feel like you belong.
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You probably are like, I'm not mad, but I'm like, no, no, but you know what I mean?
01:50:06.800
Like I, there's all these groups and you're like, I don't, I mean, I know what I know
01:50:12.540
in the ways I'm not like these guys and I know the ways I am like that, but, but we
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Like we just want to be included and it's hard.
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And that's, I think the thing that liberals don't understand about conservatives in the
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last five years, it's just like, it's just been, they've just been excluded for so long
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culturally and a bunch of other ways that it's like, Oh, fuck you.
01:50:49.940
I mean, now having said that he's not at all like Jared Kushner and fucking those it's
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they're the, they're worse than any liberal you can ever meet.
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I get the anger and resentment you feel from being excluded and looked past.
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I think everybody feels that you think Nick, everybody wants to be included.
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Like I feel bad sometimes we're doing an episode and I don't talk to Nick, like I
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Not because I think Nick's sitting there thinking, Oh, I wish he would mention me, but
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it's like, but you don't, you're a hypocrite if you don't think that you're a hypocrite.
01:51:39.900
Um, the door, the open door is freaking me out and get underwater somewhere.
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But no, it's just because I know that everybody wants to feel mentioned.
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We just want to feel like a part of something, you know, which I think is one of the reasons
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why people come out to LA a lot of times because they may be some people anyway.
01:52:00.200
They didn't feel a part of something or they didn't feel like, yeah, they had the full feeling.
01:52:06.960
And it's, I'm like, I heard Nipsey Hussle one time.
01:52:12.060
I used to say this to Dave and then Nipsey Hussle said a version of it.
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What I used to say to Dave is like before special, like his curves fucking fucked.
01:52:19.240
Um, the half Bay came out, didn't do good, did another movie, didn't do good.
01:52:23.260
He was just like mad and pissed off and like floundering kind of.
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And I was like, you're, they'll, they'll let you back in, but you're going to have to walk
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They're not going to make it easier in any way.
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And Nipsey Hussle said, he's like, yeah, I'll, I'll get, I just have to take the steps.
01:52:42.280
Like you're not, you just get to the point where you got, I'm never going to be given.
01:52:47.360
And they're never, you're never getting a wedding, right?
01:53:01.020
I will never get the marriage to, I will never get, I will never feel the love and the, um,
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acceptance that I would get from being like, I auditioned and they said, you're going to,
01:53:21.840
And then I said, like, it never, it's not like that.
01:53:24.220
It's like, well, it's like someone's car and their cousin.
01:53:27.980
And this people shitting on you and like looking down at you.
01:53:36.580
And all it does is just makes you more empathetic and makes you, and it makes people root for
01:53:45.180
As much as your, um, you think your southerness is a liability, but it's not, it's, it was now
01:54:02.800
It's like now I, I don't know where most of your listeners or most of your, most of your
01:54:21.700
Um, it's like, and so you see it as like for years people were like this fucking swamp things
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here and now it's like the fucking swamp things here.
01:54:31.240
It's like, goes from, or like the rat King, like this fucking rat Kings out here and now
01:54:42.220
We sold so many rat, we sold a ton of rat King shirts, man.
01:54:48.420
And it's fun that the whole world is turning into WWE, man.
01:54:51.380
That's what I think about like, uh, like we're talking about like, um, what's his name turning
01:54:59.760
So you and Dave Chappelle, you guys are on talking terms now, right?
01:55:02.520
And we, you guys were, so for a long time, cause what was that?
01:55:08.560
We were not, we, the way the show went, basically the way the negotiation after the show got popular
01:55:23.560
Did you have a, were you able, were you guys negotiating together with Comedy Central or,
01:55:32.360
Um, so where, and that's the problem, you know, that's right.
01:55:36.400
And I told him before we started, I go, you know, they're going to play divide and conquer.
01:55:41.620
So the only way they'll pay me is if you make them and then they would, they played him
01:55:47.000
there, it's just so many people come between when something's popular, it just, you just
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get layers of, uh, people that want to seem more important and want to seem like they're
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doing things for, of course, to protect Dave or who, but it's not Dave, it was Dave in that
01:56:11.760
So it can be a fucking, and so someone who actually is making the thing, they resent
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Cause like, they're just, they're not writing that or directing it on in the shit.
01:56:24.660
Um, you mean like a, like an executive, like not executives, like more like lawyers, agents,
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They resent you because you have to be included.
01:56:35.820
They're not, I didn't just, I don't call them to go.
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So then that creates separation and then, um, and then he left and it was fucking like
01:56:51.520
I mean, like in retrospect, not really, but that's a pretty big swing.
01:57:00.420
Like going to Africa is like, that's pretty big.
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Although like it, that's exactly out of proportion.
01:57:09.400
That's as out of proportion as the rest of the show where it's like the most popular shit.
01:57:14.440
And then like, what's the leaving the show version of the Rick James sketch going to Africa,
01:57:29.700
And then since like, we've been cool since like Oh seven.
01:57:34.240
I know you guys are, I know you guys have been for a while.
01:57:36.300
Uh, did whenever you watch the last dance, did you think of yourself like a Scotty Pippen
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It was like, it's like being on a team with Michael Jordan.
01:57:51.260
And it's like, I want to call him and be like, Pipp, there's nothing we can do.
01:58:03.080
And also like, I got to get my, it, they can't, the audience only understands single.
01:58:13.520
No one's ever been on like, even when they say a dream team, one of them's better.
01:58:18.560
They always, it's like LeBron and D Wade, it's LeBron.
01:58:22.600
Capital LeBron, smaller D Wade or, or LeBron and Anthony Davis.
01:58:30.540
But, and then if you're Dave, you don't want to fucking acknowledge a mixture with a fucking
01:58:43.340
And if you'd have been black, do you think that the show would have been picked up for
01:58:49.600
If I'd have been black, that's a really good question.
01:58:58.800
It would have been a little, no, but then it, yeah, it, there's a different, there would
01:59:06.780
There would have been like a lot of the same ones.
01:59:09.080
And then it's a host of other ones that I'd probably don't even realize.
01:59:15.820
So it's like, they don't, you watch it and you go, yeah, Scottie Bippen's fucking great.
01:59:21.200
It's like, yeah, it's just not as great as him.
01:59:26.540
It's like, I, that deal with that all the time.
01:59:29.000
Like there was a, there was a, uh, I went on after Dave at the comedy cellar one time
01:59:34.240
and the, uh, the MC was like, it's the next guy's co-creator spell show.
01:59:39.880
And I go, and I go on, I'm like, the co-creator spell show was a really good credit unless Dave
01:59:58.380
Uh, so I get the, it's just an insurmountable, I don't, but I, I will say I'm, I'm not, I'm
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I have like personal argument shit with Dave, but I'm not like, I'm, I should have been Rick
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And, uh, and so I'm happy to be myself and, and to the underdog thing, it is fun to, uh,
02:00:42.820
It's fucking, sometimes I look at my career and I'm like, this is a fucking miracle.
02:00:48.040
It's a miracle that like, I was a writer for a TV show that was really popular.
02:01:00.560
Like I wasn't a comedian and then I like figured out how to do it.
02:01:16.140
You look at your career objectively, your life objectively.
02:01:20.160
I mean, even while looking back on, on Chappelle, can you see like, was he just under, you think
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like looking back now and knowing how we see like people get stressed and the overwhelmingness
02:01:30.600
Do you think, yeah, I think it's just stress and I think it's not, it just, once things
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And also once you're talking about that much money and people know how much money you're
02:01:40.100
making and it's on the cover of the paper and it's, it's like, it's not, it's like,
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yeah, it's, it's, it's like, uh, the difference between, I've said this to a basketball player,
02:01:51.220
like difference between a rookie contract and a max deal, rookie contract, everyone
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feels like they're, even if you're the best rookie, they're like, man, you're making 5
02:02:03.020
And then you get your max deal, you're making 33 million a year and they're like, I don't
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know what you're going to do, but it fucking better be good.
02:02:16.680
And it's just a less fun position to be in, which is the thing of having never had a wedding.
02:02:25.480
Like, you know, we'll, we'll never get, I don't think anyone will ever be like, okay,
02:02:34.060
Like, I don't think that that's a thing that we may never have to deal with and that, which
02:02:39.520
is good, which is a good, that's an advantage that we don't have to, we'll have to deal with
02:02:44.940
like, it's not as good as this last thing or any of that stuff, but it'll never be like,
02:02:53.440
And I think it has to do with his looks and clothes and habits.
02:02:58.700
And his habits too, he lifts people up a lot, you know?
02:03:04.340
So that's the, but I don't, but like, you know, me and Dave argued about it for six hours,
02:03:18.960
But yeah, what, I mean, what a comment, cause yeah, like to think that to go then to Comedy
02:03:22.980
Central and they won't give you a new show and then you're like, wow, I mean, you had
02:03:27.020
Well, they wanted me to produce black sketch shows that I can do till I die.
02:03:37.160
But I'm like, I don't want to, that's not what I, that wasn't even, it was a black sketch
02:03:43.900
It wasn't like, and then black, something black will happen.
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Um, and, uh, so yeah, it is, I don't get many opportunities.
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They, there's just, people have a bias against me and that I don't understand.
02:04:02.640
Cause I get, I was watching an old clip of mine from eight years ago cause I thought I was
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So, and somebody who like literally said comedian X is better than you.
02:04:22.260
And I was like, okay, so I sent him a clip from my comedy central half hour.
02:04:26.660
I did get on comedy central barely, uh, half hour of a joke from eight years ago.
02:04:34.620
And I was like, so why did you tell me that so-and-so is better than me?
02:04:42.200
And it's like, people don't want to, something about me, people think I'm racist.
02:04:49.180
I don't know, but it's not, I'm, I just don't get the benefit of the doubt.
02:04:55.780
But I guess who wants the benefit of the doubt, right?
02:05:02.320
Now don't put me on here cause I don't want to feel like I didn't earn it.
02:05:19.660
And Gianni was like, we should put it on the wall.
02:05:37.240
And the feeling of like, yeah, I'm not included.
02:05:48.460
Isn't it funny to see, though, that we didn't even really have anything to do with it?
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And meanwhile, you don't, it hasn't even crossed your mind.
02:06:00.460
You haven't, but that's what the human fucking brain does.
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Oh, but when I reach that ground, I'll share this peace of mind I found.
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But it's gonna take a little time For me to set that parking brake And let myself unwind
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Shine that light on me I'll sit and tell you my stories
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And now I've been moving way too fast On a runaway train with a heavy load of my hand
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