E280 Boosie Badazz
Episode Stats
Length
1 hour and 12 minutes
Words per Minute
185.65703
Summary
In this episode, I sit down with rapper Boosie from Baton Rouge, Louisiana. We talk about his life growing up in prison, how he got his start in the music game, and how he went from there to where he is now.
Transcript
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Today's guest is an artist who I've wanted to have in since I started podcasting.
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This man does music, but this man does so much more.
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I got to get back for my daughter's birthday, but I'm coming right back.
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And when you come out here, are you shooting a film right now?
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So, every week or two, I'm picking states to go to and get money in and spread my wings.
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So, these next two weeks are going to be L.A., California, the whole Northern California and Southern California.
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And whenever, because I feel like you work harder than anybody, man.
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Every time I turn on your Instagram, you're like, it's going down tonight, Club Percocet, Club Whisperer, somewhere.
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But, see, most of the people who's successful in the game, who got successful long term, they was hustlers in the street first.
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I mean, obviously, you were younger before you got incarcerated.
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I always was a hustler, hustler, like a dog hustler, run myself to death, you know.
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I was 22, you know, living in cars, mansion, things like that.
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I read music books and I always had hustle, though.
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Do you think if you hadn't have gone to prison, like, do you think there's a better chance that you might not have lived as, like, were you going at a fast rate of life?
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I mean, I remember, I mean, I grew up in Louisiana.
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But I had been in the game so long, I just, when I got my break and peaked, I just peaked.
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It's just a blessing to be where I'm from and, you know, to jump out like I jumped out.
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And now, you know, Baton Rouge, as far as rap, we're a hub.
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When you were in prison, do you, because you were in Angola, right?
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Did they let you perform or anything like that?
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They just, you know, they just really, I think, got the crowd out there, you know, knowing Boosie was going to be out there.
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You mean all the rodeo, the ladies that come to watch the rodeo?
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Yeah, the ladies that come to watch the rodeo, you know.
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That's what, you know, you got to go get, make the inmates go get the shit funny.
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They make the inmates go get the thing off the top of the wildest bull.
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So, you know, inmates who don't have shit, they going up there and try to, they don't give a damn what that bull do to him.
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That was one of my favorite things when they grab the bull thing off the head.
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Did they have bull riding, too, or was it just kind of like this sort of thing?
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Yeah, we had a young guy in here who's like the world champion of bull riders.
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And just seeing his body type, he's like, his body kind of bends right in the middle.
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Some people longer up top or longer legs, but his body bends right in the middle.
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He's kind of perfect size for the way he rides on the bull.
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Is there anything that you miss about being in jail?
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The evidence, they've been finding, he should just be let go.
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Yeah, two of the guys, I think I read two of the people that testified against him took
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That's what I miss the most is my friends in there, bro, that I wish he'd come home.
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So, you know, that's what I miss the most, you know.
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Did you guys, was there times in there, I mean, obviously, I've never been to jail,
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but I wouldn't mind maybe doing a couple months or something, but I don't want to do like
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Was there ever times, is it kind of fun, like being able to just be around your friends
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and stuff, or you spend a lot of time by yourself?
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It depends on if you're in protective custody or if you're in a population.
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You know, most rappers go to PC, they stay in a cell their whole time in jail.
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You've always kind of been a man of the people, no matter where you are.
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Yeah, yeah, like you can't, you know, drive you crazy in that cell.
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You know, a lot of people just be afraid, but, you know, if you're a rapper and you can,
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if you can live on the streets, you can live in jail.
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If you can survive in the hood, you can survive in jail, because it's just a hood.
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So if you can survive in jail, you can survive in penitentiary.
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And, you know, I had a Sweden penitentiary, man.
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And my last couple years, my first two and a half, I was on death row.
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So I was in a cell, a one-man cell the whole time.
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So the day I beat my murder charge, I was let off death row, and I had a charge whether
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to go to protective custody or to a population with 150 people in the dorm.
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Yeah, it was sweet, man, you know, contact visits.
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And then the first time I went to visit, everybody went crazy in the child hall.
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So the warden, Burrell Kane, you know, he looked out for me, him and Bernard.
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They gave me my own visiting shed, 70-inch flat screen.
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My own movies, my own chef, my own picture camera.
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Man, you know, so visits was my everything, you know.
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They just told me to stay out of trouble, and they would lay me out.
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Yeah, I remember when you came out, man, I was really excited.
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And I remember I put a tweet on, because it was right before Easter.
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And I remember I put a tweet on Twitter, and it said, Easter's come early.
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And how do you feel like social media, I feel like a lot of us were conditioned on social media.
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You know, we learned, like it became slowly a part of our lives.
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You kind of have this unique way about you on social media that it's just, sometimes it's too real.
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It's realer than, like a lot of people, everything is very, it's organized.
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But you fucking live, you come from like a different place with it.
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Like it's such a real slice of what your life is like.
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Do you feel like that's because you came into social media?
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Like you missed that whole conditioning where we all got slowly conditioned to it.
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Basically, you know, I've been like this a long time.
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Just doing what Boosie do, saying what Boosie say.
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It's just, it's a platform where I can show it.
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And you know, because everybody, if you don't see that side of me, you just think Boosie
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If you just, hey, if you know, you got, you know, if you let other people, not the music,
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If you let other people judge it, you're going to take from it as Boosie badass.
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But a lot of people don't get to see that I'm a father, I'm a friend, you know.
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Because yeah, if you hear Boosie badass, you see some of the pictures, you think, oh man,
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Big Baby was in here and he said, oh, Boosie, a gangster.
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That's the thing that people don't realize about Boosie like.
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He's like, yeah, Boosie is one of the last gangsters.
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But if you look through all history, every gangster had a personality.
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Like when you see me on an interview, like I'm myself.
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But, you know, how I was raised when I go places, when I go to clubs, when I'm around
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the public, you know, I was raised, I was taught not to smile with niggas.
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Like, you know, my dad, when you go places, you go, nigga, don't smile with niggas.
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You know, that shows the form of somebody might want to try you.
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Like, you know, it's not that I'm practice looking hard.
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You know, it's a habit when I, you know, when I, you know, it's no feel.
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You know, and I'm going to bring that same kind of violence if it go that way.
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So I can't be in public all, you know, me clowning.
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But nah, in public, it's not like that because I don't want people to just come try me like
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So in public, it's like, yeah, come on, I got a gun.
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Is it, I've heard you talk about moving out of Baton Rouge and, you know, I know that,
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you know, you had instances with like the district attorneys there and stuff trying to attach
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And, you know, there was a lot of what seemed like, from what I've heard, uncomfortableness
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Maybe not exactly the cops, but the overseers of them.
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What is it about Atlanta that makes life more comfortable, do you think?
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Yeah, the biggest thing in Baton Rouge, yeah, they had you, they had C-Murder, Silk the Shocker,
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Master P, and they had that tiger that's in the cage outside of the P-Max.
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Baton Rouge is, you know, Birmingham to Atlanta.
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You know, as far as racism, as far as everything, you know, that's the deep south.
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Oh, dude, I was on stage there a couple months ago.
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I said, damn, it seemed like Black History Month started a city.
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You see a lot of, you know, and the police show me love, man.
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You know, I can't say that for everybody in Atlanta.
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But as far as the officers I done ran into, they want to see me prosper, man.
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I know if he telling me to roll out the window and not pull off.
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Man, that shit was like, man, my heart just dropped, yeah.
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So that was, you know, they always see me and be like, they just give it up to me, bro.
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They understand that, you know, I didn't come to this city to be a problem.
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I noticed even just growing up in, like, we would go to Atlanta sometimes to see the
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Sugar Bowl or to visit an aunt that I had that lived there.
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And it's a, for me, just as a, you know, I mean, just a regular white person pretty much.
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But it was the first city that I saw that had, like, black wealth in it, you know.
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Like, and, like, a lot of, I'm talking a lot of money.
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Like, a car would pull up to a place and you'd be like, damn, and black people would get out.
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It was something that, you know, I grew up in a small town.
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And we didn't have any wealth by us, but you had just never seen that before.
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You know, like, when I was growing up, the only wealthy black Americans that I knew were, like, Dallas Cowboys.
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Like, there was a couple people, but you didn't see it.
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You never saw it in your face, I don't feel like, until Atlanta.
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Because when I went down there and, I'm a season ticket holder.
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So, you know, I've been going to NBA games a minute, and the first time I saw, you know, with a triple A floor seats, you know, 70% black, you know, and that made me smile, you know.
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You know, black, black, black, black women, you know, successful, you know, and we in these big boy seats.
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You know, it's not like that in Louisiana, you know, it's not like that.
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You know, the stuff I see with the black people out here, it makes me proud.
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I mean, I just have my own perspective, but there is something that's exciting to see when you see, oh, if this culture has money, they can have a comfortable existence.
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And I don't mean that of any judgment, I just mean, you know what I'm talking about.
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Right, I feel what you're saying, but I feel what you're saying, and they got a ghetto everywhere.
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They got a ghetto everywhere, slums everywhere.
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It's just when more people show value and wealth, it makes other people want wealth, and that cuts out the bullshit.
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It inspires people because everybody has a role model, and the role model is the one with the most money.
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There's definitely more role models in Atlanta than a lot of places, you know.
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Yeah, especially, I think, for black kids, you know.
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I mean, just because like even if you think like, you know, when I was growing up, just like you would see people come to the school, and they would say, okay, it's going to be career day at school.
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Somebody's dad is going to talk about their career.
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And it was always used, like if it was a doctor, it was a white doctor.
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But now, I think especially in places like Atlanta, you have that, it's different.
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You know, like people come, and it's all types of people come and have a career, and that gives a kid sitting there like, oh, I can have this.
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What do you see like going on out here today, man?
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Do you see a difference between the protesters and the people looting, or do you—
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It's been going on way before these people who—everybody flashing, the black people who done got murdered.
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It's just they got caught with the cameras, the camera phones.
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When I—in 89, 90, our neighborhood hero got killed by the police, just jumped on the hood and fucking smashed them.
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If that—if they didn't have those cameras, he would be dead, Glenn Floyd.
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If they didn't have those phones, that blessed us.
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Now they see what they've been doing for 20, 25 years.
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And do you think—so a lot of the anger, you think it's built up from people that have seen—I've seen other people be killed that never—you never hear their name again.
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And we had a time right now where everybody pissed off.
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You know, it's just—it's just—you know, it wasn't the time for this.
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You know, I'm going to post something on Instagram in two days.
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You know, black people should be paid like the Indians.
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It's—our race been through more shit than anybody.
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Why hasn't no fucking president say, why are the black Americans—why are they not compensated?
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You know, why haven't—no—we just—our wealth been taken from us.
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Why no motherfucking president never said that, even Obama?
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The Indians—we built the—we built the damn Indians.
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If the Indians deserve it for the blacks, everybody must be black.
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I won't know why a motherfucking promoter—not a promoter.
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I won't know why all these people who interview the presidents, all these people be behind these
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Mr. Trump, do you feel the blacks should be compensated for what they've been through
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I don't know why no president never asked that.
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Oh, made to also do plays and stuff they didn't want to do.
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Like, the blacks done been through it more than anybody, bro.
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We deserve to be compensated every motherfucking month.
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Every motherfucking month, black families should be compensated.
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So, do you even know what an amount like that would look like?
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But if you got trillions for walls, you got trillions for us.
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You got money for us if you got money for walls.
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They shred money up and throw that shit away every year.
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You can give it to us blacks who've been down and kicked and hanged.
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You did say hanged a lot, too, but I feel you, though.
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When you hang somebody, you put something on their neck,
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and you cut off their oxygen until there's no life left.
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You put something on somebody's neck, and you squeeze it.
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When you hang somebody, you put something on their neck
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Do they have the death penalty, I wonder, in that state?
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Manslaughter is, in some states, it carried five years,
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That shit, if your first, then he a police officer.
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Like, you know, like, and then they wouldn't even arrest the other police officers.
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Like that girl say, if four black people go kill somebody,
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and all of them in the car, all of them get that murder charge.
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You know, I don't care if one shot, I don't care if one,
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Even if they was in the car, you know, not on camera.
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That's why I don't feel sorry that they burning this motherfucker down.
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I think they actually need to burn this bitch down
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Every family in black, we burn this bitch down today,
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Like, I say about $5,000 a month to every family.
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Do you feel like one of the biggest things that plagues the black community
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That's why I think we can, we got to move right now.
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With the rise and shit, we can build our own economy.
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We should build our own economy, make our own music.
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You know, same thing what they did with Black Wall Street back in the days
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Yeah, I know that they, what happened, they burned it down?
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You know, those black people, all those black people were worth millions of dollars.
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So, we probably need to start our own economy, man.
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and everybody get together and make our own economy.
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Even if we got to get fronted from somebody else.
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We can start our own economy, our own state, you know,
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and see how much they miss us and we can put a real hole in their pocket.
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I remember writing Ice Cube on my cheek before I would go to school, bro.
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Man, I wanted to be like every, when you see that fashion with that rap shit,
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Yeah, so I was saying, I was thinking, I thought,
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I was talking about this with my pro scrim guy who I do pro scrim with.
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You know, they got a lot of cheap land out there.
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Sending our kids, making them business minded to be rich.
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And once we do that, we probably can start our own laws.
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They got hick towns in these states that own their own land that their police station
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And we buy the fucking land and we have our own laws.
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It's just black people don't want to put it together like that.
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We always against each other instead of with each other.
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Do you think that that could start to change some?
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Because I've been going places everywhere I've been going.
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People have been like, you know, like my black brother.
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Like, bro, like, I just feel like we're getting stronger.
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Well, you know, people starting to care more about our black people.
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Well, you do a good example, I feel like, I mean, with the chips, the cologne.
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I mean, everything you try to, I feel like, lead by an example of your work ethic and the
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way that you create your own infrastructure for yourself.
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You know, everything that has to do with you, it feels like runs through you.
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Do you, where do you feel like you got that kind of business, that kind of business mind?
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It's one of the reasons why I started our own studio, right?
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I don't like, I don't like a company that I don't even know these motherfuckers owning
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a part of me, telling me how I can look, how I can behave.
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I mean, I sell, we did, I did a world tour last year.
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You know, I'm not bragging, but we did it on our own.
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Because I don't like somebody owning, I don't like somebody owning a piece of me.
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So I can only imagine kind of the level that that feels like to a black person, you know?
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You know, a lot of people, a lot of people, a lot of people look at my hustle and they
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value it, you know, because I ain't letting motherfuckers get over on me.
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I know, you know, so everything I'm in, I got ownership.
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There's not one thing I'm in that I don't have ownership.
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Nigga, I'm not finna promote your brand or clothes, you know?
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That's a business, you know, I get paid for that too.
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But, nah, it's, I gotta have ownership because, you know, once you sell it, you know, I gets
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You might want to sell it today and I gets nothing.
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That's just how I am and I'm in a position to do that, you know?
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I get money, I drop a CD every month, I outm every month and I'm independent.
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So, you know, I don't gotta take a couple crumbs from nobody because I'm already self-made.
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Do you feel sometimes, because this is a side effect of my, the way I operate, I do
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feel, sometimes I feel left out by the mainstream.
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I always been, they've always tried to put me out of the mainstream.
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Bootsy made it to the mainstream because Bootsy made it to the mainstream.
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You know, I came out, I was 14, you know, 15 years old, 98.
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I mean, I feel like you've taken on a whole different, I mean, you're a business now.
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You gotta understand, the way, the way I've came home and turned into an entrepreneur
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and five, six different things, people in higher places, people in higher places don't
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By me having ownership and shit, it's not like that.
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You know, you don't get help from motherfuckers who can really help you.
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You know, you're not gonna get that because they know you're a threat to them.
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You know, and I feel like that in so many ways, you know, I'm left out a lot of shit.
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You know, I don't, I don't, I don't need to hang to get, to get nothing.
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If it don't come to me, God ain't, God ain't make it for me.
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So, uh, I'm just, you know, I'm just, I'm just boosting, man.
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And, um, once you got a following and once you got a, I got a caught following.
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Dude, there were times when I even would get, I'd be like, I, there was a little, well,
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Like, that's how much, that's how, you know what I'm saying, though?
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Like, that is how, I think that's a sense of attraction that you have to fans, you know,
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is that they could be like, nah, and then they'll be like, oh, all right, yeah.
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We got a question right here from this fucking white guy.
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So, the fact that he just got out of prison from being a snitch and everything.
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Do you think it's right that if, you know, if people kind of like a new song to support
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it and get it to, like, high on the Billboard charts, or do you think the community should
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I don't really want, um, I don't really want to comment on Tekashi69 right now.
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Does he remind you of you when you were young at all?
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Like, I wouldn't, I wouldn't, I wouldn't, you know, when I was young until this day,
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You're like, I'm, I'm built like that, you know.
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So, I wouldn't, you know, I don't really want to comment on Tekashi69.
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Because, uh, you know, it ain't, it ain't worth it, you know.
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You know, he, you know, I don't really want to comment on, like, I, certain situations
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I don't comment on because I'm not none of the dudes he, you know, he get involved with.
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I don't get no clout from beefing with 69, bro.
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Like, I don't get no, nothing, no coupons for that.
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You need to come out with them boosy Viagras, bro.
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Because, dude, I used to get the ones at the gas station.
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The first ones they came out with had, like, a picture of a horse on the package.
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Because I thought, oh, maybe I didn't take enough.
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Yeah, but we promoting them for the younger generation.
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I'm promoting them for the rappers having three bitches a night and got to get back to
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Actually, I hooked up with one black girl one time, but I've always been a little bit.
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A lot of the black women, it seem like they fuck back if you try to fuck them, you know.
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Like, sometimes if you're fucking them, it seem like you're fucking them, but sometimes
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Like, they seem like more, I don't know what I'm trying to say.
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So, you're saying white women are more missionary?
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Like, I feel like, yeah, it's more like you're petting something, you know.
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Whereas, I guess my concern, not concern, but, yeah, if I'm having sex with a black girl,
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then I feel like, damn, she's gonna, it's more like wrestling.
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Like, more like, she's gonna really fuck me, you know.
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A black girl like to fuck, because, you know, she don't want you to say after you
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have fucked this shit out of you, she's gonna be like, you know, they got a little pride
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Yeah, more white girls like to just be slayed and fucked.
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More black girls got a little pride to where they'll ask you, what's that pussy good,
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That's why she was throwing it on you like that.
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Well, I did hear, though, that's another thing Big Baby said, that you had the wildest
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I like to have a good time, and I like fun girls.
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And I like to see, it's really about showing everybody else a good time.
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When you're walking around, everybody's having a good time.
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When everybody, and just everybody having a good time, everybody like, motherfucker,
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There was something you talked about a little while ago about, like, sometimes I notice even,
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you know, growing up in a poor white environment, like, a lot of times they don't, you know,
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you feel like you don't, you feel like you don't exist sometimes, you know?
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Because there's a lot, I feel like, and I didn't grow up in, like, a redneck place, you know?
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I didn't grow up in, like, my mother was an educated woman, you know?
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Like, she's a hard worker, but we weren't, like, country, you know?
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Like, we weren't, like, rebel flags or, like, you know, fish.
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We just, we're just kind of regular people, you know?
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And sometimes it feels like when you're in a community, in a poor environment, that the
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hardest thing about the environment is the environment itself, you know?
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Even though if they are your friends, they sometimes, people don't want to see you leave.
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What do you think some of the tougher things in a black environment that make it the toughest
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Something really got to happen to you for you to leave it.
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Because when you get money, most times you're not leaving where you at unless something really
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You know, I used to feel like, you know, I ain't going nowhere.
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You know, ain't nobody, I don't care what's going on, you know?
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And a lot of people have that frame of mind, and it's the wrong frame of mind.
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The one who wanted to fight you, now he want to kill you.
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The police who didn't know you, he want to arrest you.
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Because people have something to gain by getting something over on you now.
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And you get hatred from the people who went to school with you, who feel like they had.
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And those people shouldn't hate when they had the same chance as you.
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But it's better to go to another city where you'll get loved, you know, duck off in a
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Because I said over many times that most people get killed in their own city.
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I feel like we got the most dangerous job in the world.
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Nobody thinking I'm going to gun this motherfucker down.
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If you don't hit this punchline, I'm taking a sword to this motherfucker.
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Or do you ever get worried that one of your past songs created such a, like a, I'm a dog,
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you know, that it might have inspired somebody enough to be a fucking killer.
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Like, do you ever worry that your music could inspire, like.
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Dude, that's a good song name, Black John Lennon.
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Dude, he was on a bicycle and somebody shot him, I think.
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I just hate that, you know, so many of my fans who come up on my music are dead now.
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And is there, I mean, I know in the Black community is just a, I mean, this is obviously just from my perception.
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Is it exciting, though, sometimes when there's more danger?
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Like, white community is, you're going to be fine, kind of, probably.
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Like, you're going to have breakfast and shit's probably going to be okay, you know?
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You know, things that happen in the hood is really normal because it's been happening since you were a kid.
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So, if you see somebody murdered at 8, 9, 10, all through your life, when you get 17...
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You're not going to have much respect for life.
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Probably you're going to have different perceptions of things.
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Either it's going to turn you all the way away or all the way to it.
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Once somebody gets murdered close to you, you feel you can do it.
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You mean you can take somebody's life, you mean?
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Like, once somebody takes something you love, you feel you can do it because...
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So, yeah, and if that's been going on for such a long time, then, of course, that feeling is going to be in people.
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Here comes somebody right here, this gentleman.
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You tell me you make it through the Atlanta airport without hitting a Chick-fil-A, showing
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up at the counter, seeing the beautiful fucking girls that work at the counter.
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They got the best looking women that work at the counter.
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When I came home from prison, flying in airports.
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Since the first ones in Louisiana, I was raised there.
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That thing looking at you like a little newborn baby.
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I done ate it before, but I just don't like them soggy-ass pickles.
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One of those nuggets is three McDonald's nuggets.
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Now, I like Chick-fil-A, but they ain't messing with no Raising Cane, though.
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What was something else that I wanted to ask you about?
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Before you were incarcerated and now, the rap game, does it feel different?
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It feels softer from just a listener's perspective.
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Do you feel like it's a different, it's different?
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It's not about who rhyming, who's spitting lyrics, who the heart is as far as that.
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It's just about who make the best song that people like now.
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Now, you know, the flowing and all that, that's deceased.
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It's not about, you know, people don't have time to sit down and listen.
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People used to, they used to have albums with all the lyrics on them.
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All the lyrics on the inside and shit, it's not about that no more.
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They don't have time to even really listen to what you're saying.
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Most people don't even know what the rapper's talking about.
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Do you feel like you could see yourself one day having like some ballads or maybe doing
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You know, people be talking about sports and all this shit.
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Music, music is, you can't live, people can't, some people can't live without music.
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Music crossed over white people except in black people.
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And Elvis, but the guy that wrote Elvis Presley songs, I'm not sure who he was.
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But, uh, some guys out of Memphis, I think that wrote some of his, uh, early hits.
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Do you think that, uh, but you could see yourself having a ballad album one day, you get a little
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I like to do it, you know, like, you know, I like to do it.
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Like, uh, I'm just on an independent level now.
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Do you feel like, um, like, you know, I work as a comedian.
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And the past three years have been, started to be good.
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You know, I've started to reap, like, earnings from my work, you know.
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So, uh, do, and sometimes I wonder if it's really something that I did or do I think
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that I just was given a gift, you know what I'm saying?
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God gave you these gifts so you can, you know, you were picked.
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You had other people who probably had way more talent than you but died on the way.
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Do you, uh, if there was something else, do you ever look at another job?
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A small job, a big job, a quiet job, a loud job.
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Do you ever look at another job and think, oh man, that's something you feel inside.
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You're like, oh, that's something that I would have been, I would have liked to do.
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Whatever I would have did, I would have ran it.
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I ran, I've been running my clique since three, four years old.
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I've been the leader of my clique in every, since the playground.
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And that, anybody can tell you in my project, I've been the leader since birth.
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If, like, so whatever I would have did, I don't know what it was.
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You know, if I would have played basketball, I would have been a point guard.
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You know, if I, I would have been a CEO at a corporation.
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You know, that's how I feel because I always, I know how to bring people together.
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Who was big when I was, when I was in college, Taurus Bright was big.
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Played against each other at Salmon and Slidell.
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And it was the biggest thing in the state, man.
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You know, he just had this shit with the NCAA and all that shit.
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You know what I'm talking about, the little point guard?
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But I think last year they didn't use Javante correctly really.
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I think they had him playing, I don't know if the year before,
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sometimes they let him, they had him bringing the ball up sometimes.
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I feel like he serviced, he just, his skill set was better.
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I think he's still going to have some good seasons though.
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The guy who wrote for Elvis Presley that was black was Otis Blackwell.
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I always felt like that black people didn't get scared.
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Like I've always felt like when I was young, like I would felt like sometimes I would get scared and my black friends would not get scared.
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Like they wouldn't, they just didn't have like the same, they didn't feel fear or something the same way that white people did.
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Most times it's a different upbringing than y'all household.
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You know, so if you get beat by your daddy, you know, your mom beat your ass with a switch.
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Our moms beat our ass, so fighting you, that's not shit.
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You know, we feel our mothers and fathers more than anything in the streets.
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I would feel like if I got in a fight with a black kid, I'd be like, damn, I'm scared and he's about to fucking have fun.
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Yeah, because it's like that, you know, we go out there to do that shit.
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Do you feel like, do you feel like music, like a lot of music has violence in it, you know.
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It has, talking about the streets, places you grew up.
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Do you feel like that contributes to like black on black crime?
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But in some ways, but it also, it also take care of millions of black families.
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Music moguls and music take care of millions of black families.
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So, so it evens out, but it's up here as far as success.
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Now we make the money that only the country singers told their stories on the porch.
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And we can't blame us for telling our stories because we was put in these situations.
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You know, this, this country put us in this situation.
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So, you know, music made us an opportunity to get, get money.
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So, uh, us talking our life ain't no different than a country singer talking about what's
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That, that, that motherfucker fucked my, my cousin.
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It's just, you know, he fucked this cousin and he got shot.
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So it's just a little, just a couple of exclamation points on it.
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Um, what was something from when you were young that you missed?
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Like just being a kid, what was something that you missed?
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Dude, I used to miss at school you would go and remember you would have a girl, maybe
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And just like how, like how I would behave around her at school, like scared to be by
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I don't really miss much cause it was, I don't really miss the struggle.
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You know, I, I, I, I miss, I miss everybody hanging out there in front of my grandmother
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house, you know, like family, you know, that's what I miss the most, the hanging.
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And that's why every time I go to Louisiana, I do the same thing that I did when I was
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Throw barbecues and you know, cause that's what I miss.
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You're like, I need anybody that does fucking surf snowballs.
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I miss being that little kid and one, one, you know, exit.
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I miss, I love that feeling of the biggest drug dealer giving me $20, $10.
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And so I go back and I do things that I always wanted to see, you know, and that's special
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I'm living somewhat of my childhood as an adult.
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You know, uh, I know how it felt when that kid was just looking at me, you know, and
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I know not to do that from how that affected me looking at the big time.
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I never let, cause that one time I looked at one of the bosses like that.
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I was just looking at, he was fresh as fuck, but he looked at me like.
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And just turned his head, you know, and, uh, that stuck with me for like four years.
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Like, cause you're thinking, what does he think?
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Cause he ended up getting me some money a couple of years after that, but that stuck
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So I break that ice when I'm, when I see them kids doing it.
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You know, cause them the ones who really, they care.
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Then he's not, he don't leave wondering, okay, how does that man feel?
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And it's okay for me to inquire and be curious.
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Your kids have had a different life than you had growing up.
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It's just, and there's nothing you can do about it because.
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They don't, they don't have, they don't have nearby the same hustle.
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You can't name 10% of the kids under 15 who are saving money.
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You know, you, you can't name kids who, you can't name too many.
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You know, people, everything is right here in their hands.
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Because a lot of kids don't want to go out and play.
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If you was raised in the 80s and 90s, you had to be outside.
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They look like creatures almost when they get locked in.
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You didn't have to go really study the spelling test and all.
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Do you, isn't it interesting though how you can't recreate that for them?
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Once you get a generation of wealth, there's something that it does negatively.
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I was just watching that on a show on American Greed.
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You see, that's what happened with a couple of my kids.
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And so, $2,000, $3,000 is not a lot of money to them.
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You know, so I'm raising my other generation of kids.
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If we shooting videos, they got to have the props.
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If this is every day, if they got to check in at my door at 7.30.
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This set, I'm going to make them work for everything.
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I paid them $150 a day when they go work with me.
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I told them, you stay with your daddy the summer.
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So when they get 16, it's going to be like a sin to ask me for money.
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And once you get to see in those bands stack, my boys fell in love with it.
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But if we just give it to them, they would never know the worth.
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You would think they would have the same as you.
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Yeah, because my brother and I, when we were growing up, we didn't have anything.
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But now my brother's worked really hard in Baton Rouge.
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You think you would have had that if y'all would have had rich parents?
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Because I had to be a comedian to defend myself.
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The only thing I had when I was young was my words, you know.
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And so when it came to humor or words, then I said, oh, this is my weapon.
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Because nobody can control if I have this or not.
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So that's why I think I got into doing stand-up.
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But if I master it, then it's like, I don't know.
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Look, I'm going to make the most of what I do have, you know.
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Like, do they see how hard I'm working for this shit?
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Yeah, I'm just going through the lawyers right now.
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We just going through the lawyers right now, bro.
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So, we're going to be setting up our train tracks.
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Then it's going to be funny because I'm going to be the fucking...
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And how mine is, you got to get dropped five times.
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The only way the fight can stop is five rounds.
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The only way the fight keeps on going throughout the fifth round, if you haven't been knocked down
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Bro, you know some people are going to pretend they out cold to not get back up, though.
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Yo, we'll fucking put white neck into one, man.
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Yeah, that's why we strut five times or your ass out cold.
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I want to be a referee for some of the matches, too.
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They let you be a referee, clowning and shit, or a comedian.
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That's the thing I always wanted to see, and I'm shocked you don't do that.
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Like people going to heaven, you know, like a coffin, you know.
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Because I feel like you represent a little bit of like this...
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Well, what are they going to do when they go under the ground?
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Ain't no motherfucking thing under that ground.
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I know fucking black people do some wild investments.
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What's one of the wildest investments you ever got in or somebody tried to get you into, man?
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You know, girl, Instagram model, she just be like, Boosie, you a good daddy.
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Let's just have a baby and we not going to have no...
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Like, you can do whatever the fuck you want, but me and you will make a cute baby.
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Like, I know you're going to take care of your baby.
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I know you don't give a fuck about what women do.
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I've just always been a fan, and I really admire your work ethic, man.
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There's times when I don't want to do my work, man, and I see you doing...
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You know, Covington, Kentucky, Scotland, South Carolina, wherever.
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I like defining things, and if you hustle, you're...
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Because I rapped on the corner for years for free.
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So when you tell me you got some money for me, it's hard for me to say no.
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Because Glenn, Big Baby told me somebody paid him one time to hook up with his wife,
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I feel like that stuff wouldn't come your way, though, really.
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Well, this girl, this was before I went to prison.
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She paid me like $7,500 to come back to her mansion.
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She paid me $7,500 to have sex with her and come to her mansion.
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And she straight came to me out to her concert looking like,
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I feel like if it's, like, around the holidays or something, you know?
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But, like, on a regular time, like, maybe around Christmas,
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But other than that, I'm not, I'm not, that's not my main thing, you know?
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I never thought I'd run out of things to talk to Bootsie about.
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Somewhere I'm going to put this dick all in her fucking ear tonight.
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Send me in at the end, you know what I'm saying?
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Oh, but when I reach that ground, I'll share this peace of mind I found.
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But it's going to take a little time for me to set that parking brake and let myself unwind.
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And now I've been moving way too fast on a runaway train with a heavy load of my head.
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Ladies and gentlemen, I'm Jonathan Kite, and welcome to Kite Club, a podcast where I'll be sharing thoughts on things like current events, stand-up stories, and seven ways to pleasure your partner.
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