This Past Weekend with Theo Von - E285 Dodgers Pitcher Walker Buehler

00:00:00.000 Coming up on his third season as a starter for the Los Angeles Dodgers,

00:00:05.400 here to talk about the revamped Major League Baseball season and what that's going to look

00:00:12.020 like, it's my friend and all-star pitcher, Mr. Walker Bueller.

00:00:30.000 I'll sit and tell you my stories, shine on me, and I will find a song I've been singing

00:00:44.700 just for me.

00:00:52.240 What'd you get, a beagle?

00:00:53.940 We got a poikenspan, it's like a little brown stick.

00:00:57.840 And what can it do, can it jump high or anything?

00:01:00.280 Oh, wow.

00:01:01.480 Hunts him.

00:01:02.180 Really?

00:01:03.300 Now, how much training goes into training like a hunting dog?

00:01:07.180 I'm going to send it away.

00:01:08.280 You have to send it away for like six months.

00:01:10.060 No way.

00:01:10.860 Out of America or no?

00:01:12.200 No, that breeds like all South Carolina, so you send it there, Huntsville maybe.

00:01:16.940 Dude, I'd send that little bastard to Japan, dude, have him come back like a little ninja,

00:01:19.900 you know?

00:01:20.240 Then they wouldn't know what ducks are looking for.

00:01:21.840 Yeah, that's true, that's true.

00:01:23.820 That's true, dude.

00:01:24.500 But he'd be able to sneak into somebody's house at night, though.

00:01:27.020 For sure.

00:01:27.620 Real quiet.

00:01:28.440 The ninja hunting dog.

00:01:29.000 He'd be able to use a sword.

00:01:30.320 You'd be like, dang, that's the only dog that can use a sword, man.

00:01:33.900 Walker Bueller, you guys are back in training camp.

00:01:36.660 Now, what do you guys, what does baseball call it?

00:01:39.760 Well, I've heard summer camp, which is an interesting one.

00:01:42.680 It sounds like.

00:01:43.500 Yeah.

00:01:43.740 Like, I'm going to swim in a lake or something.

00:01:46.960 But no, I think kind of spring training 2.0 is what they're kind of going with.

00:01:50.840 And so, you were saying you had a place out here in L.A. and then you had to get, you

00:01:56.160 had to, you were ready to come back for the season, right?

00:01:58.840 And then you had to just nix it.

00:02:01.020 Yeah.

00:02:01.220 So, for us, we kind of get six, eight-month leases, just trying to find somewhere for the

00:02:04.580 season.

00:02:04.980 And then I got wrangled into a 10-month lease because I really wanted this place.

00:02:08.820 And it was up in the hills.

00:02:10.100 And it was like, this is my last year on my first part of my rookie deal.

00:02:13.680 So, I was like, all right, I'll just get the cool one.

00:02:15.800 You're going to spend a little extra cash.

00:02:16.300 I'm going to splurge a little bit.

00:02:18.160 And then we're not here for three months.

00:02:19.900 So, no, I got lucky somebody leased it out and I got to find another place.

00:02:23.580 But, yeah, we were a little disappointed.

00:02:26.280 Dang.

00:02:27.440 And so, the time at home, were you like uncertain up until the last minute?

00:02:31.300 Or is like, is the players, like who's communicating with the, excuse me, who's communicating with

00:02:36.560 the players like, we're going to do something, we're not going to play, we are, like, is there,

00:02:41.020 how does that work for you guys?

00:02:42.460 Yeah.

00:02:42.720 So, we have, obviously, we have our big players union, right?

00:02:45.900 But, we have, like, a rep for each team.

00:02:49.120 And, of course, I got thrown into being our rep two weeks before baseball ended up coming

00:02:53.600 back.

00:02:53.920 So, I jumped into this stuff, like, way late.

00:02:56.180 So, you were the team's rep for the Dodgers?

00:02:57.020 Yeah.

00:02:57.260 So, it was JT and now I'm our rep.

00:03:00.460 But, I had been kind of just sitting back, chilling, waiting to hear when we were going

00:03:04.760 to play.

00:03:05.220 And then, two weeks before everything kind of came together, it was like, hey, Walk, now

00:03:08.360 you're talking for us.

00:03:09.440 So, a lot of group me's on a set of, hey, what do you guys think?

00:03:12.800 Damn.

00:03:13.200 Yeah.

00:03:13.420 It's pretty complicated, all the shit, you know, all the stuff that goes into it that

00:03:18.300 I didn't even really know about.

00:03:19.640 And then, it's like, hey, you're right in the middle of it.

00:03:21.600 So, it's been a little bit of a learning curve, kind of, huh?

00:03:23.600 Oh, for sure.

00:03:24.240 For sure.

00:03:24.740 Yeah.

00:03:25.500 And, what's going to be different about the season?

00:03:28.040 So, the season is happening.

00:03:29.320 Mm-hmm.

00:03:29.580 And, you guys are in spring training, summer camp 2.0 right now.

00:03:34.320 Yes.

00:03:34.960 And, what's going to be different about the season?

00:03:38.060 Well, first off, they're telling us that you can only have a certain amount of guys in

00:03:40.900 the dugout, which is weird because we all sit in there and hang out and bullshit and

00:03:44.900 whatever during the games.

00:03:46.800 So, now they're saying, if you're not playing, you have to sit in the stands.

00:03:50.040 No way.

00:03:50.580 So, there are going to be fans in the stands.

00:03:52.140 And cheer?

00:03:52.500 Except they're going to be us wearing our full uniforms.

00:03:56.380 Oh, I was going to say, you should be changing into something more relaxing.

00:04:00.180 Right.

00:04:00.480 I mean, it's, yeah, it's odd.

00:04:01.920 I told, I talked to Kersh the other day and I told him, they also said we can go home,

00:04:06.040 which is like not something that has ever been okay.

00:04:09.100 So, I told him, hey, I may never watch you throw live all year.

00:04:11.780 And, he said, what are you talking about?

00:04:12.760 I said, I'm just going to sit in the pool and watch you on TV if I can leave.

00:04:17.580 Oh, because you wouldn't even have to be there because usually the

00:04:19.700 bullpen's there and stuff, you mean?

00:04:20.960 Right.

00:04:21.160 The bullpen will still be out there, but us, we'll just, starting pitchers usually

00:04:24.280 sit right there in the dugout and kind of hang out.

00:04:26.660 So, if we can leave.

00:04:29.420 Dan, it's almost like, you think you'll miss that part?

00:04:32.120 Yeah.

00:04:32.340 You know what's weird is in Asia, that's like standard operating procedure for them.

00:04:36.400 So, they leave what?

00:04:37.340 Like if they're not pitching, they're not there?

00:04:39.020 Yeah, they go in during the afternoon and get their stuff done.

00:04:41.860 An hour before the game, they just head out.

00:04:44.480 But, we had a Korean guy, Hyunjin Ryu, that he like hated watching.

00:04:49.700 James, because he'd never done it in his whole life.

00:04:51.480 And then he comes to America and like expected to stay forever.

00:04:54.360 Dude, I'm not kidding you.

00:04:55.520 That guy would be out of the locker room within five minutes of the last out.

00:05:00.040 I don't even think he showered at the field.

00:05:01.500 I think he just threw his shit on his roll.

00:05:04.120 He's like, I'm not even getting paid for this overtime.

00:05:05.960 He's like, I want to go to dinner.

00:05:08.840 Wow, that's crazy.

00:05:10.080 I went to actually a baseball game one time in Japan.

00:05:12.620 Really?

00:05:12.920 Yeah, it was pretty cool.

00:05:13.480 I went to one in Japan and I went to one in Cuba once.

00:05:17.280 Cuba?

00:05:18.340 Yeah, I was in this school program and we got to go abroad.

00:05:23.380 And one of the things we got to do when we were there was go to baseball.

00:05:27.320 Interesting.

00:05:27.860 Yeah, that's pretty sweet.

00:05:29.060 I got to play in Cuba for a week.

00:05:31.180 No way.

00:05:31.600 Which was wild.

00:05:31.880 Yeah, so I guess there's some sports diplomacy law or something.

00:05:35.860 At that time, we were like the only Americans ever allowed in there.

00:05:38.620 Yeah.

00:05:39.280 And so we went and we lost all five games.

00:05:42.000 I was really happy about that.

00:05:43.460 Well, maybe subliminally.

00:05:45.240 I don't think you really want to win over there.

00:05:47.920 But we had a good time.

00:05:49.020 It was fun.

00:05:49.840 Dang.

00:05:50.540 And do you notice anything different about the way that they play or anything?

00:05:55.020 Yeah, I will tell you the weirdest thing that they do.

00:05:57.320 So you know how if you strike somebody out, they throw the ball around.

00:06:00.420 And it just goes once to the third baseman, to the shortstop, to the second baseman,

00:06:03.780 and they throw it back to the pitcher.

00:06:04.840 That's how they do it here in the U.S.?

00:06:06.020 Yes.

00:06:06.400 Okay.

00:06:06.700 In Cuba, they make 30 throws.

00:06:08.340 They throw it to the catcher.

00:06:09.420 The pitcher will get it, throw it back to the shortstop.

00:06:11.340 So the games take 40 minutes.

00:06:12.880 That kid in Major League gets it.

00:06:14.320 He throws it in the home plate.

00:06:15.900 Yeah.

00:06:16.160 Fan gets a toss one in.

00:06:17.640 I mean, it's wild.

00:06:19.060 Really?

00:06:19.560 Yeah.

00:06:19.800 And the games took like 30 minutes longer because they're just flinging the ball around

00:06:22.960 after every strikeout.

00:06:24.920 That's pretty wild.

00:06:26.060 I remember one time, actually, because one of the things I was doing when I was traveling,

00:06:30.380 I went on this thing called Semester at Sea, and it was like a school that goes on a ship

00:06:34.220 and takes you to different countries when you're a student.

00:06:36.640 And so we went to Hong Kong, and so I remember just walking around during the day and playing

00:06:41.900 pickup basketball games and stuff.

00:06:43.740 And the thing that they do there that was different, after somebody scores, they run it

00:06:48.840 back.

00:06:49.240 Whoever gets out of the net runs it.

00:06:50.980 You don't dribble it or pass it up.

00:06:52.220 You run it up to the top of the key and then start the game again.

00:06:56.640 Yeah.

00:06:56.880 It's really bizarre, dude.

00:06:58.360 And they would kind of frown on you.

00:06:59.700 If you threw it up there, they would kind of throw it back, and you had to run it.

00:07:02.560 Okay.

00:07:03.180 Stop.

00:07:03.500 It was like, and it feels weird just to run with a basketball, you know?

00:07:07.700 Yeah.

00:07:07.920 So you're playing running back.

00:07:09.020 Yeah.

00:07:09.180 Yeah.

00:07:09.300 It feels like a crime.

00:07:10.240 So, but I remember that was like the strangest thing that I remember that was just like

00:07:15.860 a sport in a different country.

00:07:18.160 I don't think I've ever heard that.

00:07:19.880 So with the dugout, say in a regular game, you know, can you go over to the other team's

00:07:23.920 dugout or?

00:07:25.040 No.

00:07:25.540 If you do that, normally there's a fight involved.

00:07:27.600 I don't know if you saw last year, there was a guy named Amir Garrett who pitches for the

00:07:31.320 Reds.

00:07:31.720 He played basketball at St. John's, so he's this big, tall dude, reliever for the Reds.

00:07:37.500 Right.

00:07:37.980 And they were, Reds and Pirates had this whole beef all year.

00:07:41.280 He just ran directly at their dugout, one on 30.

00:07:45.120 No way, really?

00:07:45.700 Started throwing bombs at people.

00:07:48.540 I played with that catcher, too, Kyle Farmer.

00:07:51.160 He seemed like he's ready to cause a little trouble, too, man.

00:07:54.180 Georgia boy.

00:07:54.860 Hey, go to him.

00:07:57.820 Come on, get out of here, bro.

00:07:59.800 All right, here we go.

00:08:00.780 Oh, yeah, look at this.

00:08:01.880 No, we just got traded.

00:08:03.360 No, we turn around the Reds.

00:08:05.740 We've been traded so much, huh?

00:08:07.820 Well, we...

00:08:08.860 He seems like that girl in the NBA that everybody bangs.

00:08:11.500 I can't remember her name.

00:08:14.020 Okay, hey, we're going to need someone.

00:08:15.680 We're going to need someone.

00:08:16.960 And he takes the ball.

00:08:17.780 Yeah, so they came to get him out of there.

00:08:19.200 Go get him, pal.

00:08:19.800 And then he said, all right, come on.

00:08:21.240 Oh, damn, this is crazy.

00:08:25.000 They have three guys converging to stop him.

00:08:28.760 Third day is starting.

00:08:29.600 This is his target.

00:08:31.640 Crick comes out.

00:08:32.620 This guy comes out.

00:08:33.580 This guy.

00:08:34.820 That's a bad boy.

00:08:36.060 I think that one guy.

00:08:36.880 And then full on.

00:08:38.820 Ooh, he's trying to slap.

00:08:41.380 Look at them all.

00:08:43.280 They're like, all right.

00:08:45.200 I love the cop that's not even looking.

00:08:47.560 It's like a riot.

00:08:48.240 Yeah, it is a little bit, man.

00:08:53.260 That's as good as it gets in a baseball brawl there.

00:08:56.120 So if you're on the mound, right?

00:08:57.480 Now, usually it seems like the pitcher is kind of the one that starts the brawl.

00:09:02.120 Yeah, it usually boils down to somebody getting hit.

00:09:05.260 So the pitcher is always involved.

00:09:06.920 Now, me being a smaller guy, we do rehearse my moves if anything like that ever happens.

00:09:12.780 What do you mean like you rehearse your move?

00:09:14.360 Well, somebody's going to run at me if I ever get into one of these situations.

00:09:17.620 Okay, so yeah, because you'll hit them on accident.

00:09:20.460 Yes, on accident.

00:09:22.580 And then so they'll come at you.

00:09:24.000 So you have it kind of rehearsed what to do then?

00:09:25.600 Right, because they're going to be bigger than me.

00:09:27.180 Right.

00:09:27.860 Because I'm small.

00:09:28.920 Right.

00:09:29.320 So we've boiled down.

00:09:30.820 I either have to slowly creep, wait for the corner infielders to come and get them for me.

00:09:35.400 Right.

00:09:36.020 Or I got to go with a drop kick.

00:09:37.660 Okay.

00:09:37.900 Those are really my only two options.

00:09:40.740 I think it's a mass thing.

00:09:43.060 I just can't.

00:09:44.200 Or you just fling the glove.

00:09:45.440 That one's been done before.

00:09:47.400 How do you – here, move this a little closer if you don't mind.

00:09:49.660 How do you – because your size – how does your size compare to some of the pitchers that are out there?

00:09:54.740 Because Kershaw is way taller than you.

00:09:56.420 Yeah, Kershaw is about two inches taller, but he's about 40 pounds heavier than me.

00:09:59.880 Okay, yeah.

00:10:00.240 30 pounds heavier than me.

00:10:01.020 I'll give him the benefit of the doubt there.

00:10:02.820 Yeah, I'm just – I'm skinny, you know, compared to most guys.

00:10:06.500 Most guys are pretty thick.

00:10:08.580 And does one of your arms weigh more than the other one of your arms or not?

00:10:11.380 You know, I don't know.

00:10:12.440 I think they're probably pretty close.

00:10:14.180 I would imagine the right one's a little bit bigger just because the extra ligament in there.

00:10:18.420 So maybe a couple ounces heavier.

00:10:20.140 Because you – what, you got an extra ligament put in?

00:10:21.960 Yeah, so I tore the one, but they left it and put a new one in there.

00:10:25.520 So –

00:10:26.100 Where did they get that one from?

00:10:27.280 They cut it right on my wrist.

00:10:28.820 And is that Tommy John surgery or no?

00:10:30.340 Yeah, that's Tommy John.

00:10:31.140 Okay, so Tommy John surgery is in the –

00:10:33.940 Yeah, so you can see the scar here.

00:10:37.020 It's right here.

00:10:38.440 Oh, wow.

00:10:39.140 But they cut – so if you go like this and then move your finger up, see that big line?

00:10:45.560 I've got it on that one, but not on this one because that's what they cut out and put back in my elbow.

00:10:50.240 Wow.

00:10:50.920 Yeah.

00:10:51.280 So, yeah, because I always thought Tommy John was a shoulder.

00:10:53.800 It's not.

00:10:54.260 No, that's – Tommy John's the elbow.

00:10:56.000 Labrum or rotator cuff is a shoulder.

00:10:58.440 That's a bad deal.

00:10:59.580 It is?

00:10:59.940 Yeah, Tommy John they're like 90% with now.

00:11:02.440 Like you're probably going to be fine.

00:11:04.320 Labrum is still like 50.

00:11:06.180 Do you know if you – is there a certain like life expectancy on those parts of a pitcher's body where you like, okay, like an almost like an oil change.

00:11:13.740 Okay, at three years I got to take it in for this and then at nine years I got to take it in for this.

00:11:18.240 Yeah, you hope you never have them.

00:11:19.540 Like Kershaw's never had an elbow or anything like that.

00:11:22.120 But once you have one, they say you got about eight years with that new ligament, then they'll have to do something to keep it going.

00:11:28.100 But, you know, I'm on year five on my new one.

00:11:30.420 Damn.

00:11:31.060 So, we're hoping it'll, you know, exceed those numbers.

00:11:34.480 And did you feel different once you got it in?

00:11:36.620 Oh, yeah.

00:11:37.060 I started throwing four or five miles an hour harder.

00:11:38.840 No way.

00:11:39.800 Oh, yeah.

00:11:40.120 You got 12 months of rehab.

00:11:41.260 So, you just sit there and lift and watch baseball and play golf basically.

00:11:46.440 And then I started throwing way harder.

00:11:48.760 And I got to the big leagues really quick after that just because it made the game a lot easier.

00:11:52.780 Oh, you got it in college?

00:11:54.100 I got it right after I signed in the pros.

00:11:56.440 Okay.

00:11:57.380 So, because I know you're out of – you're from Kentucky.

00:11:59.500 And that's where you live now also, right?

00:12:01.080 Yep.

00:12:01.600 And then you went to Vanderbilt.

00:12:04.260 Yep.

00:12:04.680 Three years there.

00:12:05.760 And then that's when you get into the pros.

00:12:07.880 Yep.

00:12:08.160 So, you get drafted after your junior season typically.

00:12:10.700 And you still come back for your senior season?

00:12:12.500 No.

00:12:13.080 No, no, no.

00:12:13.580 So, I never graduated.

00:12:15.020 None of that.

00:12:15.580 I didn't graduate.

00:12:16.260 I only played three years.

00:12:17.300 Got drafted.

00:12:17.860 And then you move on.

00:12:18.720 Okay.

00:12:19.220 And now, when you get drafted, a lot of times it's like it seems like these guys – where

00:12:23.140 did you get drafted at?

00:12:25.300 What do you mean?

00:12:26.280 Like you get drafted at certain picks, right?

00:12:28.260 Yeah.

00:12:28.560 So, I was a 24th pick.

00:12:29.840 Okay.

00:12:30.280 But, which for most people would be a really cool thing.

00:12:32.640 Your first-round pick, I was the third guy on our team to get drafted.

00:12:35.200 Wow.

00:12:35.260 So, it was kind of like I was happy, but I was also a little, you know, pissed.

00:12:39.520 Right.

00:12:40.120 But do you get a little pissed all the time about a lot of stuff though?

00:12:42.220 Yeah.

00:12:42.420 I'm kind of really angry that way.

00:12:44.540 Yeah.

00:12:44.800 You know.

00:12:45.380 You got that fire in you a little bit.

00:12:46.880 Yeah.

00:12:47.100 A little jealous.

00:12:47.760 A little competitive.

00:12:49.240 That chip on your shoulder.

00:12:50.300 Yeah.

00:12:50.480 You have to be.

00:12:50.940 I always tell everyone – my dad's like 5'8".

00:12:52.980 No way.

00:12:53.340 I was like, one of the only things he ever gave me was my Napoleon complex.

00:12:57.540 Right.

00:12:57.660 I'm almost 6'2", probably.

00:12:59.440 I feel like I'm about 5'4".

00:13:01.800 Dude, that's funny.

00:13:02.900 It's like, this guy has the tallest Napoleon complex we've ever seen.

00:13:07.020 Borderline.

00:13:07.460 I think it's up there, probably.

00:13:09.580 And what did your dad do?

00:13:10.900 What did your dad do for work?

00:13:12.500 So, he works Bank of America, kind of boring commercial lending stuff.

00:13:16.460 But, yeah, he does that.

00:13:17.600 And he still does?

00:13:18.560 Yeah.

00:13:18.840 He actually just moved to Irvine.

00:13:19.960 So, we're really excited to have him out here.

00:13:22.020 So, I'll get to see him more.

00:13:22.920 He's been in Colorado the past few years.

00:13:25.240 And what about your mom?

00:13:26.620 My mom's an attorney in Lexington.

00:13:28.380 So, she has her own little law firm there and does all that stuff.

00:13:32.220 But she used to tell me my favorite thing was she would tell me a case when I was like

00:13:36.840 6 years old.

00:13:37.900 And I would tell her what I think it was worth.

00:13:39.620 And I'd be within like 30 grand every time.

00:13:42.780 Like, yeah, they left this gauze in this woman.

00:13:44.860 I'm like, 1.7, not 1.6.

00:13:47.080 Yeah.

00:13:47.180 You're like, that's 4,800, Ma.

00:13:49.400 Yeah.

00:13:49.740 That's 4,800.

00:13:50.180 She said I had some weird knack for it.

00:13:51.860 But I always said that's probably what I would do if I didn't play.

00:13:54.160 But I'm kind of glad I don't have to do that shit.

00:13:56.860 Yeah.

00:13:58.060 Did you, did you, tell me a little bit more about some of the new rules that are going

00:14:05.200 to be going on.

00:14:06.360 Okay.

00:14:06.680 So, they're saying we can't spit, number one.

00:14:09.220 So, you watch a baseball game, you know, people spit.

00:14:12.400 Because of the day.

00:14:13.000 Yeah.

00:14:14.040 That's going to be interesting.

00:14:15.060 They're saying instead of spitting, we're going to have a wet rag in our back pocket.

00:14:18.500 No.

00:14:18.640 So, we can touch that and then go to the ball because you need a little moisture sometimes.

00:14:23.060 So, we'll see how long that one lasts, I think.

00:14:26.060 Obviously, the dugout stuff.

00:14:27.720 Because someone's going to spit immediately just by nature.

00:14:30.200 Yeah.

00:14:30.420 You don't even know you do it.

00:14:32.120 Yeah.

00:14:32.260 You know, you just spit.

00:14:34.280 Oh.

00:14:35.080 So, that'll be interesting.

00:14:36.120 Is it a penalty if you spit or is it going to be like somebody saying, hey, trying to

00:14:38.700 I think they can fine you.

00:14:39.640 No.

00:14:40.160 Yeah.

00:14:40.580 Oh, yeah.

00:14:40.800 Fine you.

00:14:41.260 I don't understand why it would be a financial thing.

00:14:42.880 I think it's a bacteria in the air, they believe.

00:14:45.760 I also know that if you hit a ground ball and more than two guys hit, touch the ball.

00:14:49.240 So, you threw it.

00:14:50.660 Mm-hmm.

00:14:51.100 Third baseman catches it.

00:14:52.280 Throws it to the first baseman.

00:14:53.180 Three guys touch it.

00:14:54.300 Got to get a new ball.

00:14:55.260 Uh-uh.

00:14:55.840 Oh, yeah.

00:14:56.180 It's going to be wild.

00:14:58.420 Oh, my God.

00:14:59.080 This is going to be like the un-Harlem Globetrotters, man.

00:15:02.040 Yeah.

00:15:02.340 That's what it seems like it's going to be.

00:15:03.800 It's going to be unbelievable.

00:15:06.740 And so, are you concerned about how, and now hold on, there's more rules though too.

00:15:11.920 I read one that there is, because I didn't know about these.

00:15:14.600 Mm-hmm.

00:15:14.740 So, but there's one where if you guys, you guys aren't going to bat anymore.

00:15:18.240 Correct.

00:15:19.020 So, the pitchers will no longer bat.

00:15:20.600 Yes.

00:15:21.120 Which is a good thing, bad thing.

00:15:24.000 It's all good and bad.

00:15:25.380 Because I, we like to hit, but we all suck.

00:15:27.640 Okay.

00:15:28.060 So, there's two pitchers maybe that can actually really hit.

00:15:34.260 Right.

00:15:34.360 And we don't have any of them.

00:15:35.260 Right.

00:15:35.540 No offense to Kirsch or any of those guys.

00:15:37.320 None of our guys can hit.

00:15:38.460 Okay.

00:15:39.200 So, but now I got to face another actual hitter.

00:15:42.400 I don't get to face myself.

00:15:43.440 Oh.

00:15:44.600 Which is kind of a freebie a lot of the time.

00:15:47.020 So, yeah.

00:15:47.480 So, a lot of those guys in, because the American League, they have.

00:15:51.140 They have the DH already.

00:15:52.480 So, they have the pitcher never bats.

00:15:55.060 Right.

00:15:55.440 So, they have nine professional hitters.

00:15:57.540 So, they have a, so American League pitchers, it's harder for them to get a no hitter.

00:16:01.840 For sure.

00:16:02.700 Wow.

00:16:03.120 A hundred percent.

00:16:04.580 Dang it.

00:16:05.160 Not easy, regardless.

00:16:06.580 Right.

00:16:07.500 Easier in the National League, probably.

00:16:11.260 Okay.

00:16:11.760 So, I'm just thinking about these rules.

00:16:12.820 This is so insane, dude.

00:16:13.940 I almost feel like now I'm at the rodeo.

00:16:15.800 It's almost like we're not playing baseball anymore.

00:16:17.800 We're just playing like wiffle ball, but.

00:16:21.760 Okay.

00:16:22.300 So, now also there's a rule if you guys go to extra innings that they're going to put someone

00:16:27.920 on second base.

00:16:28.800 Yeah.

00:16:29.100 So, that, they've been doing that in the minor leagues for a long time.

00:16:31.800 Okay.

00:16:32.020 Kind of testing it out.

00:16:33.260 It'll, JT actually came out and said he wanted a home run derby.

00:16:36.360 And that's JT Snow?

00:16:37.580 Justin Turner, our third baseman.

00:16:39.220 Big red beard guy.

00:16:40.260 Okay.

00:16:41.200 He said he wants a home run derby to break the extra innings, which I love.

00:16:46.140 I think it'd be hysterical at the end of the game.

00:16:47.900 Everybody's all tired and dirty.

00:16:49.080 We're just trying to hit home runs.

00:16:51.020 And that's what the extra innings really are, because everybody wants to hit the walk

00:16:53.900 off.

00:16:54.300 So, everyone just tries to hit home runs all the time in the extra innings anyway.

00:16:58.780 So, they've done this rule with the guy on second forever in the minor leagues trying

00:17:04.280 to figure it out.

00:17:04.920 And now we're going to give it a go in the big leagues, I guess.

00:17:06.900 But, it'll be interesting.

00:17:08.000 Do you have any thoughts?

00:17:08.660 Yeah.

00:17:08.760 Like, what are your thoughts on it?

00:17:10.340 I luckily have never, like, had to start an inning that I didn't let somebody on base

00:17:13.620 and they just stuck somebody out there.

00:17:15.640 But.

00:17:16.340 There'll be pressure right out the gate, because that guy's already there.

00:17:18.560 Yeah.

00:17:18.840 And then there's, like, a million different strategies.

00:17:20.740 You know, you can bunt or whatever to try and get him to third so he can score easier.

00:17:24.400 And it might be cool.

00:17:25.820 It might be a way for a pitcher to finally get back in the batter's box, though, because

00:17:28.940 pitchers are pretty good bunters, typically.

00:17:31.940 But even if your team doesn't get to bat first, you still get the bottom of that inning,

00:17:36.320 right?

00:17:36.640 Yeah.

00:17:37.100 Okay.

00:17:37.360 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:17:39.060 Yeah, because that almost seems like, man, you could easily get the.

00:17:42.300 Yeah, maybe it'll make it a little more exciting.

00:17:44.200 It might, because sometimes these games just go on forever.

00:17:46.780 Yeah.

00:17:46.900 We had that World Series game two years ago that went 17 innings.

00:17:49.900 And I threw the first seven of it.

00:17:51.960 I was at the ballpark longer not playing than I was.

00:17:54.400 And I threw the ball really good.

00:17:55.720 It just took forever.

00:17:57.160 We played.

00:17:58.260 Shit, I got home at, like, three in the morning that day.

00:18:00.820 And when the game starts, like, so whenever it gets into late innings, guys are just trying

00:18:06.160 to hit that walk off?

00:18:08.160 Yeah.

00:18:08.560 Why?

00:18:08.780 Because it's just a beautiful thing to see on this 14th?

00:18:10.680 Yeah, I think so.

00:18:11.520 That's so great.

00:18:12.440 It's very funny how it happens in the extra innings.

00:18:16.140 Like, everyone either punches out or hits the homer, you know?

00:18:19.060 Yeah.

00:18:19.680 But sometimes that's why they go so long.

00:18:21.520 Oh, I'd hit that homer.

00:18:23.000 Have to.

00:18:23.580 So you can't go over to the dugout for anything.

00:18:24.960 What if you tell a buddy something?

00:18:26.100 Can you run over there and tell him something if he's on the team?

00:18:28.240 You know, I don't know if they're going to let us have phones, walkie-talkies.

00:18:31.620 We got them.

00:18:31.900 But even before that, like, say last season, you wanted to tell a buddy something.

00:18:35.440 Oh, yeah.

00:18:35.740 We just sit there and bullshit the whole time.

00:18:37.520 But in the other dugout, I mean.

00:18:38.840 No, you can't.

00:18:39.940 Nothing.

00:18:40.700 Even if it's your buddy?

00:18:41.720 No, you can't.

00:18:42.840 And, you know, there's certain times where it's okay to, like, go say what's up.

00:18:45.960 And then there's certain times that it's not.

00:18:48.740 So, like, in batting practice and stuff, sometimes we'll linger out there and talk to the other

00:18:52.060 team.

00:18:53.300 But, you know, after a certain point, there's nothing.

00:18:56.120 We got a question right here from a young fellow right here.

00:18:59.760 And this might be Crone Gracie right here, this guy.

00:19:02.720 Hola, Tio.

00:19:03.780 Hola, Walker.

00:19:04.880 This is your boy, Luis, from Puerto Rico.

00:19:06.920 And I have a quick question for Walker.

00:19:09.020 How do you feel about the whole sign-sealing scandal that's been going on?

00:19:12.920 And do you think that it's going to affect in any way or shape the way that you guys played

00:19:18.560 baseball this season?

00:19:20.140 Or is it going to be the same?

00:19:22.100 Thank you for answering.

00:19:23.640 Ganga, ganga.

00:19:25.040 Gang, gang.

00:19:26.380 Hey, guys, from Puerto Rico, man.

00:19:28.500 Feliz, papa.

00:19:29.440 The sign-sealing stuff.

00:19:30.300 Do you know much about this or no?

00:19:32.100 I know that Houston got in trouble, right?

00:19:34.040 Yes.

00:19:34.460 Yeah.

00:19:34.640 So what's interesting is they were doing all this shit live.

00:19:37.500 So they'd know what was coming before it even came.

00:19:40.700 Right.

00:19:41.040 And that's unfair.

00:19:41.980 Right.

00:19:42.720 Which we're all against that.

00:19:44.360 A lot of guys, you know, we do scouting and things like that, that you can push a limit

00:19:49.300 and we all kind of know what that limit is and they were past it.

00:19:52.900 So, you know, and then the Red Sox got banged.

00:19:56.240 They weren't doing anything near what Houston was doing.

00:19:58.960 So Houston was really what?

00:20:00.100 They were knowing what the signs were and then finding ways to communicate.

00:20:06.680 Yeah, they were hitting on the wall.

00:20:07.780 Was that stuff real?

00:20:08.680 Or do you think a lot of that's been exaggerated?

00:20:09.860 No, I mean, the videos seemed to really say that that was what was going on.

00:20:13.740 I wasn't on the team really at that point.

00:20:16.100 I had been in the big leagues, but I didn't make the postseason roster, so I wasn't there.

00:20:20.560 But from everything I had heard, I think it was pretty legit that they were doing something.

00:20:25.820 And so say if something like that is going on, who knows about it on the team?

00:20:28.940 Would everybody know or would just...

00:20:30.840 Yeah, that kind of stuff is obviously going to be relayed to the pitchers and catchers more

00:20:35.200 than anybody because they're doing the signs.

00:20:38.120 But everyone's going to know.

00:20:39.860 That stuff kind of traveled like wildfire, I guess.

00:20:43.260 Didn't they say possibly wearing buzzers, too, even?

00:20:45.820 Yeah, that was the rumor.

00:20:47.420 I don't think that one was ever proven.

00:20:49.680 But I think if you get caught for one thing, everybody can say you could do a million different things.

00:20:55.600 And it's kind of hard not to at least think it could happen.

00:20:59.940 Yeah, because once you start also taking advantage of the rules or bending them,

00:21:03.160 once you get one way to do it, it's easy to be like, oh, I can also probably do this way.

00:21:07.480 Right.

00:21:07.800 And Jose Otuve, after he hit that walk-off, and they all rushed him at the mound.

00:21:13.080 At the time, I was like, oh, that was adorable because he's like, don't rip my shirt.

00:21:16.060 My wife will be mad at me.

00:21:17.380 But it seemed like after, it was because they would uncover his buzzer.

00:21:20.920 Right.

00:21:21.360 Oh, conspiracy theories are great.

00:21:23.060 It seemed pretty plausible.

00:21:26.840 Yeah, I mean, you know, it is what it is.

00:21:29.020 Obviously, we weren't in the locker room or in their locker room and knew what was going on.

00:21:32.420 But if something like that was going on on a team, right?

00:21:35.640 Say it's going on, even on your, it was going on, and just as a hypothetical, on a team that you're on,

00:21:40.880 wouldn't, would somebody on the team, is there a code in there where it's like, this is how we do it,

00:21:46.100 it's just, this is our, how we do it this year?

00:21:48.260 Do you think somebody would raise their hand?

00:21:49.740 Or if that person raised their hand, you'd be like, dude, chill the fuck out, man.

00:21:52.240 Yeah, there's some sort of, there's some sort of like clubhouse security, I guess,

00:21:56.400 where everything kind of, a lot of stuff stays in there and shouldn't go anywhere.

00:22:00.060 Right.

00:22:00.200 So, like if somebody on your own team told on you about it, like, there'd be problems, I think.

00:22:08.200 But yeah, I think if it's helping you win, I think everyone's going to know on the team

00:22:11.380 and everyone's going to be involved personally.

00:22:13.160 That would be my, my guess.

00:22:15.900 Huh.

00:22:16.720 It's an interesting, it's an interesting deal.

00:22:19.740 Um, do you, do pitchers get, are you, when you go out there to play, um, and last year

00:22:28.140 you had your first all-star season, right?

00:22:29.860 Congrats, man.

00:22:30.600 Thank you.

00:22:31.200 Um, when you go out there to play, are you playing, okay, I'm going to beat this other

00:22:34.880 pitcher, I'm going to beat this team.

00:22:36.840 Like, what is the pitcher's kind of motivation?

00:22:39.560 Or maybe not even motivation, but who is he, who are you against?

00:22:44.760 Yeah, I think, I think it's the other team is the big thing.

00:22:48.780 But when you face guys that you've, like, grown up watching, there's a little bit of

00:22:53.860 like, oh, shit, like, I'm facing Max Scherzer today.

00:22:57.020 Yeah.

00:22:57.140 And I think for me, it was always like, oh, I get to hit against him and just see what

00:23:00.660 this is all about.

00:23:01.760 That's gone.

00:23:03.160 But no, I think most of the time it's, it's the other team and the pitcher's kind of secondary

00:23:07.600 unless it's like certain guys.

00:23:09.100 Okay, so, so when you're pitching then, if it's a certain pitcher up there, then you

00:23:13.240 might feel like, oh, this is kind of exciting.

00:23:15.280 Right.

00:23:15.480 Like for you, it'd be, I think like for you, it'd be like, oh, I'm getting more views on

00:23:18.500 this podcast.

00:23:19.500 Right.

00:23:19.660 But if we had the same guest who's did more, it would be more important.

00:23:23.100 You know what I'm saying?

00:23:23.760 Yeah.

00:23:24.480 Your mom's house would win probably.

00:23:27.320 But yeah, no, I see what you're saying.

00:23:28.940 Okay.

00:23:29.680 And if a pitcher gets up there, so it's kind of cool.

00:23:32.560 Say if there's a, if there's a great pitcher, it's kind of cool for you to be able to bat

00:23:36.380 because you get to bat against him?

00:23:38.020 Yeah, because you've watched it on ESPN your whole life, right?

00:23:40.100 Yeah.

00:23:40.280 So you're like, oh, like, why can't these guys hit this?

00:23:42.460 And then he throws you that one pitch and you're like, oh, now I get why nobody can hit

00:23:45.880 this shit.

00:23:47.360 Scherzer was like that for me.

00:23:48.600 Really?

00:23:49.000 Oh, yeah.

00:23:49.980 What was it about his?

00:23:51.400 Well, he threw me a fastball and the first one looked, wasn't super hard.

00:23:54.960 And then a couple more pitches, he threw me another fastball and I didn't even see it.

00:23:58.080 It was so firm.

00:23:58.640 I guess he just kind of like laid off one and then threw one hard and I was like, oh my God.

00:24:03.240 Damn.

00:24:03.560 I think I was like laughing, walking off, just like I have no chance.

00:24:07.980 Yeah, it seems.

00:24:09.360 Here we got a kid right here that has a question.

00:24:11.720 That Dole shirt.

00:24:12.820 Yeah, baby.

00:24:13.400 Bob Dole.

00:24:13.760 Yeah, what up, Theo?

00:24:14.740 What up, Walker?

00:24:15.900 I just had a quick question for Walker.

00:24:18.420 When I'm watching baseball, there's a couple guys I kind of key in on wanting to watch.

00:24:23.680 Guys like yourself, Jack Flaherty, Max Scherzer, guys that are just bulldogs on the mound.

00:24:29.840 I was wondering if Walker had any guys that he likes to watch, whether it's starting pitchers

00:24:34.940 or position players, but guys that he just enjoys watching them do their thing out there

00:24:40.360 on the ball field.

00:24:41.540 Anyway, hope you guys are having a good day.

00:24:44.420 And Theo, gang gang.

00:24:45.920 Thanks, bro.

00:24:46.780 Nice guy.

00:24:48.080 Where did that come from?

00:24:49.320 Gang gang?

00:24:49.900 Yeah.

00:24:50.540 I don't know, really.

00:24:51.980 It was before my time here with you.

00:24:55.360 Just been rolling, huh?

00:24:56.420 Yeah, I don't really know, man, but it's just people like it.

00:25:00.280 And now it's just become the sign off on the end.

00:25:03.140 We got to get Walker some slides.

00:25:04.840 Yeah, we got to get you some slides, man.

00:25:06.380 I'll rock those.

00:25:07.180 Awesome, dude.

00:25:07.760 I'll rock.

00:25:08.080 Hey, our trainers get so mad because I just watch Instagram videos all the time while

00:25:12.660 they're working on my arm and they just hear all these Theo-farer videos.

00:25:18.040 They're like, oh, man, Walker's not going to have a good year.

00:25:20.620 One of my first days back, like a couple of days ago, I was watching shit and they're

00:25:25.620 just like, oh, Bueller's back.

00:25:29.700 Well, I think the first time you said you heard about me, we were talking about Bryce

00:25:33.360 Harper when he won all that cocaine money.

00:25:36.420 Yeah, the $330 million.

00:25:38.080 I'd have been combing my hair with cocaine, bro, if I'd have had that kind of money.

00:25:42.540 So we always get these new interns.

00:25:44.700 Sorry, we'll get to your question.

00:25:46.620 We always get these new interns and I show them there's one.

00:25:50.020 You talk about eating pineapple and somebody's grandmother or something.

00:25:54.040 That's like the first thing I always show these interns.

00:25:56.060 I'm like, check this out.

00:25:56.840 This is hysterical.

00:25:57.680 They're like, what the fuck?

00:25:59.620 They're like, damn.

00:26:00.400 Yeah, welcome.

00:26:01.860 The caption is, Te amo them chunks.

00:26:04.040 Yeah, Te amo them chunks, baby.

00:26:06.080 They're like, man, I'm going to go get a job with the Marlins after this.

00:26:09.520 This is getting really shoddy over here.

00:26:11.940 It's so funny.

00:26:13.740 But no, one of the guys you mentioned, Jack Flaherty, is a buddy of mine and we've pitched

00:26:17.340 against each other twice and back in the Meyer Leagues, too.

00:26:20.160 So he's probably one of my favorite guys to watch now.

00:26:23.020 Yeah.

00:26:23.720 Yeah, he's from out here somewhere.

00:26:25.140 I think he went to Harvard-Westlake.

00:26:26.800 That's a fancy school.

00:26:28.160 Oh, yeah.

00:26:28.880 Yeah.

00:26:29.400 They got three guys in the big leagues now that were all high school teammates, which

00:26:32.660 is freaking wild.

00:26:32.780 Oh, I think O.J. Simpson teaches PE over there.

00:26:35.060 Harvard-Westlake is stacked, bro.

00:26:37.400 They have a really stacked squad.

00:26:38.900 They're unbelievable.

00:26:40.340 So, wow, that's so interesting.

00:26:41.860 So is it easier as a pitcher when you get up there to bat against a pitcher?

00:26:45.900 It would seem like, oh, well, you know what they're doing.

00:26:49.240 Yeah.

00:26:49.500 You know, I think my career batting average is under 100.

00:26:52.780 So I don't think I have any way to say any of it's easy.

00:26:57.920 So none of it, huh?

00:26:59.060 Kind of terrible.

00:27:00.180 But, you know, it was part of the game, I guess.

00:27:03.560 Do you feel sad even walking up there sometimes with a bat?

00:27:06.320 Like, is it?

00:27:06.700 Certain guys, you absolutely do.

00:27:08.000 Oh, dang, bro.

00:27:09.580 Because there's a viewer, you're like, oh, man, this scene's real sad.

00:27:13.060 Like, why would they do this?

00:27:14.020 It's almost like when they shoot Bambi in that movie.

00:27:15.820 Yeah, it's tough.

00:27:17.160 Bambi.

00:27:17.560 Kind of feel like a gladiator, but you're like the guy without a sword.

00:27:20.220 Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely.

00:27:22.160 Oh, let's see what this guy with the notebook is going to do over here.

00:27:25.700 Damn, and you can't act like you don't have a chance.

00:27:28.020 No.

00:27:28.300 So a real hitter walks up and they're like, all right, I'm trying to hit this ball hard.

00:27:31.920 I want to try and sit on it.

00:27:33.260 I just walk up there and try and see as many pitches as I can.

00:27:35.840 Like, my goal is to foul balls off most of the time.

00:27:39.360 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:27:39.880 That counts almost for you guys.

00:27:41.240 Well, yeah, hell yeah.

00:27:42.060 If you see six pitches, you've done like a really good thing.

00:27:44.840 Wow.

00:27:45.280 Oh, yeah, instead of just three right down the middle.

00:27:47.420 Sir Galahad over here.

00:27:48.900 Yeah.

00:27:50.700 And so you can't tell, though, when a pitch leaves a pitcher.

00:27:53.600 It's the same.

00:27:54.860 Are you then not a pitcher once you're batting?

00:27:56.760 I mean, I know that technically you're still a pitcher and you're batting,

00:27:59.660 but is there any insight as to what's going to happen each time?

00:28:04.120 I was actually a really bad hitter in high school because I would like give these other guys credit for like,

00:28:08.940 I'd be like, all right, if that was me pitching, I'm like looking for this pitch,

00:28:11.700 like I would do this and they would never do it.

00:28:13.880 Oh, almost like a blackjack.

00:28:15.240 Yeah.

00:28:15.580 You think like, oh, poker or whatever.

00:28:17.880 Like if I had this hand, I'd do that.

00:28:19.540 That's better.

00:28:20.280 And they were terrible.

00:28:21.200 Wow.

00:28:21.880 You know, they're like.

00:28:23.380 And so I'd be like, oh, I'd throw a slider right here.

00:28:25.360 And they just throw me a fastball right down the middle.

00:28:27.120 I'd miss it.

00:28:27.720 But it was just because they were a bad pitcher.

00:28:31.320 Yeah.

00:28:31.700 And I was overthinking it.

00:28:33.620 Oh, that's funny.

00:28:35.740 Dang, dude.

00:28:36.260 That's so crazy, man.

00:28:37.340 It seems like it is.

00:28:38.880 Man, I remember the first time I ever got up to bat, man.

00:28:41.140 They had this.

00:28:43.040 And I was horrible at it.

00:28:44.840 I mean, I remember one time they put us out there.

00:28:46.400 I remember eating psychedelic mushrooms out in the outfield.

00:28:49.080 That'll happen.

00:28:49.680 Yeah.

00:28:50.180 It was way.

00:28:51.160 Dude, we had right and double right on our team.

00:28:53.180 Didn't I always have to play double right?

00:28:54.420 Yeah, back right.

00:28:55.740 Oh, dude.

00:28:56.260 And one time I ended up working at the snowball stand for two innings, dude.

00:28:59.020 Two whole innings.

00:28:59.360 I was like, man.

00:29:00.600 But the coach said it still counted, you know?

00:29:02.400 Right.

00:29:02.700 Well, he had to play two innings, right?

00:29:04.100 Yeah, that was the rule.

00:29:05.160 Oh, that was the saddest.

00:29:06.820 Oh, it was the worst.

00:29:07.820 Get in there.

00:29:09.080 All right.

00:29:10.260 The worst.

00:29:10.520 And then I had an appendectomy in my appendix burst when I was a kid, lapping the bases.

00:29:14.600 Really?

00:29:15.460 Between two bases.

00:29:16.440 So I hit the ground, man.

00:29:18.080 They tagged you out or no?

00:29:19.900 Or they give you the base?

00:29:21.100 I don't know what happened.

00:29:21.940 The coach was furious.

00:29:22.840 He's like, run.

00:29:23.500 He called me an MF-er.

00:29:24.620 This was back when you could still call kids an MF-er.

00:29:26.680 And he's like, run, MF-er, run.

00:29:29.360 And I was just like squealing.

00:29:31.600 He's like, can't?

00:29:32.480 Yeah, can't.

00:29:33.120 I mean, I couldn't.

00:29:33.760 I didn't know what was going on.

00:29:34.460 And he came and dragged me by both my arms from third to home, dude.

00:29:38.480 And we got the run, but it was like, dude, who gave a shit?

00:29:42.180 Our team was horrible.

00:29:43.220 We were playing at the American Legion.

00:29:44.620 Yeah, it just meant you didn't get slaughter rolled.

00:29:46.260 Yeah.

00:29:47.000 Everybody there was a Vietnam veteran, dude, getting sunburned, waiting for their check.

00:29:51.200 It was just rocky.

00:29:53.500 So, any other expectations you have going into the season?

00:29:58.760 Does it feel like going into a regular season?

00:30:01.580 Absolutely not.

00:30:02.560 It can't.

00:30:03.220 We've been sitting at home for three months.

00:30:04.500 You know what I mean?

00:30:05.160 So, I don't know.

00:30:06.380 I hope we get all our games in.

00:30:08.080 That'd be the biggest thing in the playoffs and all that.

00:30:10.200 But with all the new COVIDs around, I don't know what's going to happen.

00:30:16.280 Yeah.

00:30:16.600 And they are planning on traveling?

00:30:19.080 Yeah.

00:30:19.580 So, what they did, normally we play every National League team.

00:30:22.420 So, we go to the East Coast, back and forth all the time, which sucks because we get screwed on the time stuff.

00:30:27.900 But we're only playing, I think we're only playing, like, the NL West, so our division, and the AL West.

00:30:34.820 So, we're kind of staying out here, which will be nice, travel-wise.

00:30:38.740 Yeah.

00:30:38.880 You know what I mean?

00:30:39.380 Instead of six-hour flights to Washington and shit like that.

00:30:43.380 So, they're making it easy that way.

00:30:45.040 There'll be nobody in the stands.

00:30:46.540 Correct.

00:30:46.820 What do you think, like, is that going to, is everybody still going to care about the game as much?

00:30:51.040 It takes some of the ego out of it, almost.

00:30:52.840 Yeah.

00:30:53.200 It takes some of the energy out of it, for sure.

00:30:55.320 You know, like, I think a lot of teams are talking about buying crowd noise or pumping crowd noise in there.

00:31:00.040 So, it feels a little bit more like it.

00:31:02.820 I saw in Korea, they're using sex dolls in the stands.

00:31:05.360 Putting them out there?

00:31:05.600 Yeah.

00:31:06.100 Oh, that'd be kind of cool.

00:31:07.940 Some teams I heard are, you can pay 50 bucks and get a cardboard cutout of yourself, put it in the stadium.

00:31:13.940 Wow.

00:31:14.940 Which is kind of interesting.

00:31:15.980 So, you look up, it's just all these cardboard.

00:31:17.980 Yeah, that's cool.

00:31:19.080 That's not a bad idea.

00:31:20.500 No, but they're doing some wacky stuff, especially over there in Korea.

00:31:24.220 Wow.

00:31:25.060 Yes, those were sex dolls cheering on a South Korean soccer team.

00:31:28.020 Yeah, I think they got in trouble for that.

00:31:30.180 Why?

00:31:30.600 Some of those chicks are hot.

00:31:31.760 And they're wearing masks.

00:31:35.060 It's an interesting deal.

00:31:36.800 Gosh.

00:31:37.360 And they're six feet apart.

00:31:39.420 Yeah, that's an interesting one.

00:31:41.240 Wow.

00:31:41.540 Someone's social media.

00:31:42.360 Go back up to the top if you don't mind, Nick.

00:31:43.720 Over the weekend, mannequins were placed in the stands for a match against Wangju FC.

00:31:49.680 Someone's social media already had the telltale signs.

00:31:52.040 Business logos for sex toy marketers.

00:31:54.280 We tried to add some fun, he says.

00:31:56.680 Fun in the no spectator match.

00:31:58.940 I like it, kind of.

00:32:00.620 I love the idea of having somebody be able to send a picture in or get themselves put in the stands.

00:32:05.340 Like, for a certain, like, you could do that as a gift to somebody.

00:32:08.740 Yeah.

00:32:09.120 You know, like, you're there.

00:32:10.360 Yeah, happy birthday with three in Tondra Stadium.

00:32:12.820 Yeah.

00:32:14.960 And maybe somebody that doesn't want to be there.

00:32:16.500 It's like grandma, you know?

00:32:17.500 Imagine opening that for Christmas.

00:32:18.820 It just says, you have a cardboard cutout.

00:32:20.940 Yeah.

00:32:21.520 You never get to see it.

00:32:22.800 You don't get to watch a game.

00:32:24.060 But you might catch a glimpse on TV yourself.

00:32:26.440 It's almost like getting one of those stars.

00:32:28.120 It's like somebody buys you a star.

00:32:29.540 You're like, oh, thanks, assholes.

00:32:30.780 Or adopting some sea otter.

00:32:32.080 Yeah.

00:32:32.420 Yeah, dude.

00:32:33.320 Now I have to go outdoors at night.

00:32:34.380 I live in a dangerous neighborhood.

00:32:36.720 We should send Michael Landon.

00:32:38.620 Oh, yeah.

00:32:39.100 We should send Michael Landon.

00:32:41.300 That's a great idea.

00:32:43.060 That's pretty funny.

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00:36:23.420 So yeah, I'm trying to think of anything else that will be different out there.

00:36:25.620 So there'll be no snacks because nobody's buying them.

00:36:27.840 All that's going to be down.

00:36:29.480 It's just going to be solely to make sure that they have a season probably to keep the

00:36:33.540 flagship of the whole business going.

00:36:36.180 Correct.

00:36:36.620 Which is pretty important.

00:36:37.960 Oh yeah.

00:36:38.520 Yeah.

00:36:38.960 You know, I think one of the big things has been the owners come out and saying,

00:36:42.200 we're not going to make, we're not making any money.

00:36:43.600 We're going to lose money.

00:36:44.460 But everybody's franchises keep going up.

00:36:46.500 So these owners, yeah, they're not bringing in cash, right?

00:36:49.500 But they can sell this thing for X amount more every year that they keep it.

00:36:53.280 So, you know, we're excited to get back out there and play, obviously.

00:36:57.460 And, you know, at least people can watch us at home, which will be fine.

00:37:00.760 Now, are you, in the end, were you excited?

00:37:02.540 Like, yes, we're going to get to play.

00:37:03.760 We're going to get to do, we're going to get to do something.

00:37:05.520 Yeah.

00:37:05.780 All of us, I think are.

00:37:06.920 There's a few guys that have opted out of it, which I think, you know, if you have

00:37:10.400 family and stuff, I think that's a, that's a decision that you have to really like

00:37:13.540 stare down.

00:37:14.580 But I'm ready to go.

00:37:17.140 I'm excited.

00:37:18.240 They have a Latino friend of mine named Rudy.

00:37:21.140 And he's not just Latino, he's specifically Mexican.

00:37:23.600 And he works at this, he's like the manager at this cafe that I go to all the time in

00:37:29.460 my neighborhood.

00:37:30.320 And he loves you.

00:37:31.280 And he's like, oh, that guy, that guy loco.

00:37:35.520 That's what he always says.

00:37:36.560 Yeah.

00:37:36.900 You know, I have my moments.

00:37:38.180 Yeah.

00:37:38.480 That's what he says.

00:37:39.280 Oh, yeah.

00:37:40.660 But it's pretty funny.

00:37:41.700 Every time I go in there, he doesn't even say your name anymore.

00:37:43.800 He's just like, oh, that guy loco.

00:37:45.300 Yeah.

00:37:45.500 I had a couple.

00:37:46.460 And he talks a little bit Asian.

00:37:47.900 Unfortunately, my accents are not good.

00:37:50.360 My rookie, I had two live TVF bombs.

00:37:53.300 We've tried to curtail those a little bit.

00:37:56.920 It's not very family friendly, but.

00:37:58.500 But do you think that chip, where does that chip on your shoulder come from, man?

00:38:00.980 Because you definitely like, you have an intensity about you that I think, like when

00:38:05.640 I first met you, I was like, wow, just because of your size.

00:38:08.140 And I mean, you're, you know, you're bigger than me, than I am.

00:38:10.480 But, and this was the same way when I met Drew Brees.

00:38:12.340 I was like, wow, I, this is not exactly who I expected.

00:38:15.680 Maybe if I thought these days of a major league pitcher.

00:38:18.480 Yeah.

00:38:18.800 I think, as I said earlier, Napoleon complex is for sure part of it.

00:38:23.460 But I think the other thing was being small.

00:38:25.820 I played a little football.

00:38:26.620 I was always too scared.

00:38:28.280 I think when I played baseball, I was like, oh, I'm the smallest one, but I'm not, I don't

00:38:31.140 have to be scared of this.

00:38:32.740 Nobody's going to hurt me, you know?

00:38:33.940 And so I think you take that little fear and turn it somewhere else so you can kind

00:38:38.780 of function, I guess.

00:38:40.100 And as the stakes get higher, I think it just amplifies it for me, at least, where I get

00:38:44.740 a little more, you know.

00:38:46.180 A little more jazzed up.

00:38:46.980 Juiced up, yeah.

00:38:49.940 When you're pitching, do you, is there a pitch?

00:38:53.020 Like, does the catcher, who gets to pick what pitch you throw, the catcher or you?

00:38:57.120 So the catcher gives, the way they explain it, catcher gives you a suggestion and you agree

00:39:01.680 to that suggestion 95% of the time.

00:39:03.700 We have a whole big meeting that's like 30 minutes long, going over every hitter and what

00:39:08.640 we want to do before the game.

00:39:10.020 So we kind of know, like, at least out there, I don't have to think as much.

00:39:13.760 I told them what I think.

00:39:14.820 Now they kind of just remind me and then I throw that pitch.

00:39:17.300 Okay.

00:39:18.540 But my rookie year, we had a really veteran catcher, so couldn't really shake him off.

00:39:23.620 You can't really say no to those guys.

00:39:24.700 Oh, really?

00:39:25.160 Yeah.

00:39:25.800 Certain guys, for sure.

00:39:26.540 So if you had Mike Piazza or something sitting out there, you'd probably go along with what

00:39:29.160 he says.

00:39:29.540 Yeah.

00:39:30.060 Wow.

00:39:30.680 Because he's seen these batters so many times.

00:39:32.800 Right.

00:39:33.100 And you, and knows, the assumption is that he's been there longer, so he knows what you're

00:39:37.280 doing better than you do, you know.

00:39:39.420 Now, if you throw a pitch that they choose, then it's also kind of nice for you because then,

00:39:43.000 if it gets rocked, you have somebody to blame it on.

00:39:45.000 Right.

00:39:45.300 Right, right, right.

00:39:46.000 You know, it's, that's an, the worst possible scenario is you shake the guy off three times

00:39:50.380 and throw it and then he hits a homer because then the catcher just says, listen, dumbass,

00:39:54.340 I told you, you know.

00:39:56.500 Yeah.

00:39:57.340 That's actually exactly what they will say.

00:40:01.100 So that, so that relationship between catcher, pitcher and catcher is pretty, it's pretty severe.

00:40:05.400 It's huge.

00:40:05.660 Yeah.

00:40:05.900 Wow.

00:40:06.300 Yeah.

00:40:06.940 Really super trusting.

00:40:08.320 You know, you have to be, or else you're going to freak yourself out the whole time.

00:40:12.340 And do you have, does every pitcher have every same pitch as everybody else?

00:40:16.600 Do some pitchers have?

00:40:17.860 No, everybody's got different, different stuff.

00:40:19.940 And even we all call certain things the same thing and they act completely different.

00:40:23.960 It's just kind of the way you are.

00:40:25.900 You know what I mean?

00:40:26.380 It's like how you run or how you talk.

00:40:28.640 Like it just, oh, I throw a slider and mine moves like this and there's moves like this.

00:40:32.200 And like, like your boy Clevenger.

00:40:34.720 Yeah.

00:40:34.900 He and I throw very similar stuff.

00:40:36.280 When he throws a change up, I don't.

00:40:38.340 His stuff is bigger.

00:40:39.800 Mine's kind of harder.

00:40:41.200 It's just, they're all different little variations.

00:40:43.160 He's a little more flashier too.

00:40:44.740 Yeah.

00:40:44.960 That guy's tatted up.

00:40:45.940 Oh, dude.

00:40:46.500 He's wild.

00:40:47.340 Yeah.

00:40:47.480 Oh, he tried to send me a unicorn egg one time.

00:40:49.440 Yeah.

00:40:49.620 You know what I'm saying?

00:40:50.060 That doesn't surprise me.

00:40:50.760 Yeah.

00:40:51.040 That's not surprising, man.

00:40:52.460 He definitely, dude, he pulled a seashell out of his hair one time and I listened to it,

00:40:56.520 bro.

00:40:56.660 And it told me the future whole story, but then he made me give it back to him.

00:40:59.940 Yeah.

00:41:00.280 Yeah.

00:41:00.900 That's interesting.

00:41:01.580 So he's, yeah, we saw him.

00:41:04.420 We were in Phoenix eating breakfast or lunch or something.

00:41:06.660 I saw him in shorts.

00:41:07.580 We're about halfway down his thigh.

00:41:10.060 Oh, he's sexy, bro.

00:41:11.040 He'll show those legs off.

00:41:12.180 Yeah.

00:41:12.440 Tied.

00:41:12.780 I tanked up on all his boys dressed exactly the same.

00:41:15.440 I've never met the guy.

00:41:17.200 And I walked to, so that's Mike Clevenger.

00:41:19.420 Oh, that it makes a lot more sense now.

00:41:22.000 I think he has a flower on his glove, which is one of a kind, dude.

00:41:25.520 He told me he was trying to, he told me his glove was vegan.

00:41:28.840 And I was like, that's insane, man.

00:41:30.180 Made of leather, too.

00:41:31.020 Yeah.

00:41:31.380 That's ironic and insane.

00:41:34.460 But yeah, man, he's one of a kind, man.

00:41:37.720 How much does, some of the pictures I noticed, like even Mike's one of the guys who their

00:41:41.180 leg movements will be different.

00:41:42.840 How much are you allowed to do there before it's like considered a type of trickery or something?

00:41:48.880 Oh, if there's nobody on, nobody on base, you can basically do whatever you want.

00:41:54.060 Wow.

00:41:55.060 Basically.

00:41:56.060 There's some rules.

00:41:57.360 You've heard of a balk?

00:41:58.600 Yeah, a balk is when you-

00:41:59.640 So that's when you're creating deception in an illegal fashion.

00:42:02.540 Okay.

00:42:02.720 That's what a balk is.

00:42:03.600 Okay.

00:42:05.180 So-

00:42:05.460 Is that shady to do if you balk?

00:42:07.420 It just sucks.

00:42:08.080 They get a free base.

00:42:08.960 Okay.

00:42:09.360 So if you got a man on third and balk, they score.

00:42:12.140 They don't have to touch it.

00:42:13.080 They don't have to touch the ball, nothing.

00:42:14.180 They just walk home.

00:42:14.860 Wow.

00:42:15.860 So that's if you kind of-

00:42:17.300 Oh, everybody gets a free base if you want, no matter where they are.

00:42:19.640 Oh, yeah.

00:42:20.460 Oh, wow.

00:42:20.960 It sucks.

00:42:22.120 Have you ever lost a game on a balk before?

00:42:24.200 No, my high school lost.

00:42:26.060 I was in eighth grade going to watch our varsity team.

00:42:28.720 I was like so excited they lost on a walk-off balk.

00:42:31.760 Oh.

00:42:32.380 It was tough to watch.

00:42:33.700 Seniors last game.

00:42:35.260 That's it.

00:42:36.120 The guy fucks up one time and game's over.

00:42:39.100 Season's over.

00:42:39.740 So what constitutes a balk?

00:42:41.000 Like what do you have to do when you're on the mound?

00:42:42.580 There's a few things.

00:42:43.240 So when you get your sign and you come, you have to stop.

00:42:46.360 So your body has to fully stop before you pitch.

00:42:48.380 So when you're young, you just kind of get it and throw it.

00:42:51.620 Now you have to get it, pause, and then throw.

00:42:54.640 That's probably the most common one.

00:42:59.020 There's some certain pick-off moves.

00:43:00.620 You have to like disengage the rubber, all these kind of boring rules.

00:43:03.880 But you just learn the normal way.

00:43:05.660 And then like you balk a lot when you're young because you don't know what you can and can't do.

00:43:10.800 Okay.

00:43:11.800 Yeah, probably once you get called for it, then you start to really, you're like, okay, I've got a malfunction here.

00:43:16.240 The weirdest one I've seen guy just drop the ball on the mound.

00:43:18.460 If you drop the ball while you're touching the rubber, it's a balk.

00:43:21.000 Oh, wow.

00:43:21.820 It was just an accident.

00:43:22.980 Yeah.

00:43:23.260 I've seen a guy bringing it down, and he hit his leg, dropped it, balk.

00:43:27.720 Guy scores.

00:43:28.480 Would you ever, how much pride is in it where, say if you're not doing well out there, you're just having a game where it's not going your way.

00:43:33.980 Would you take yourself out of the game ever?

00:43:38.260 Wow.

00:43:38.660 Absolutely.

00:43:39.160 So there is a point in every game where it's all about preservation of the bullpen.

00:43:42.780 Because the bullpen is super, super important.

00:43:44.580 If you're getting crushed, you just try and like survive as long as you can.

00:43:49.200 Oh, because you want that to save the bullpen for other games.

00:43:52.040 Yeah.

00:43:52.400 I see.

00:43:52.920 Yeah, so guys don't have to cover you.

00:43:54.560 You know what I mean?

00:43:55.440 So I got killed in Atlanta my first playoff start.

00:43:58.740 First inning goes great.

00:43:59.820 Second inning, I walked a pitcher to force a run in, which is as embarrassing as it gets.

00:44:05.260 Not even, I didn't even throw a pitch close.

00:44:07.700 My first playoff game, we're down 1-0.

00:44:09.340 I'm like, all right, throw three straight balls.

00:44:11.800 I get this on Instagram.

00:44:13.160 People send it to me just for fun all the time.

00:44:14.840 The fourth one, it was a ball.

00:44:17.400 Umpire calls it a strike.

00:44:18.640 Next pitch, Makuna hits a grand slam.

00:44:20.640 We're down 5-0.

00:44:22.120 And at that point, I ended up throwing three more innings, gave up no more runs.

00:44:25.960 But we were going to lose probably.

00:44:27.860 But those three innings, save three innings that one of our other guys didn't have to throw.

00:44:31.560 So it also gives you a little bit of redemption then.

00:44:34.080 Yeah, a little bit of like, listen, I screwed this one up pretty good, but at least I kind of.

00:44:37.760 I'm doing my best to help us out a little.

00:44:39.200 Right.

00:44:39.740 It'd be like if you bombed, if you went out and bombed, which I'm sure happens, at least you finish your 10 minutes.

00:44:45.620 Right.

00:44:45.940 Instead of, oh, shit, at minute two, this is going really poorly.

00:44:49.360 So now my backup, now the guy after me has to do my eight minutes as well as his 10.

00:44:53.300 Yeah, so you want to try and at least just get there, even if it sucks for you.

00:44:56.740 Yeah.

00:44:57.520 Damn.

00:44:58.640 Is it real?

00:44:59.540 Like, is the feeling when you're out there like, like, is it once it, if it starts going

00:45:06.440 bad, like say in that game, okay, so it starts going, it started off bad, but you were able

00:45:09.840 to get it back on track.

00:45:11.580 Like, does it feel like you lose your confidence?

00:45:15.300 Like, what does it feel like?

00:45:16.640 It just feels like everyone in the world's staring at you and telling you that you suck,

00:45:20.760 you know, and even though you don't, and you know, you don't, you know, you go, you go

00:45:24.620 home after that game, you obviously don't get food because there's too many people that could

00:45:29.040 see you.

00:45:29.580 Yeah.

00:45:29.900 Right.

00:45:30.480 So you get room service and whoever brings a room service, they'll smile and you think

00:45:34.800 they're just laughing at you.

00:45:36.800 They're not.

00:45:37.440 They're just being nice.

00:45:38.320 They just want that $5 tip.

00:45:39.660 They're just dropping off a salad, man.

00:45:41.240 Right.

00:45:42.180 You're like, oh, that guy fucking, he must be a, he must be a Cardinals fan.

00:45:45.820 Yeah.

00:45:46.000 You also sometimes will change your whole diet for about 12 hours after you get beat

00:45:49.780 like that.

00:45:50.260 You just like eat another salad.

00:45:52.660 Oh, just change it up.

00:45:53.940 You start drinking water bottles.

00:45:54.700 Yeah.

00:45:54.820 Because you think I might have, I fucked something up along the way that, that led me to get killed.

00:45:59.940 So, so there's almost like that taboo element.

00:46:01.840 Like you're like, how do I, because you've been doing well and how do I solve this?

00:46:05.280 Something's going off the ring.

00:46:05.900 Yeah.

00:46:06.040 What have I done?

00:46:06.820 Oh, wow.

00:46:07.700 Karmic, a lot of karma elements in baseball, the whole superstition and all that stuff.

00:46:11.940 Now what's harder than, so say you're having a tough game.

00:46:14.540 And you, you know, you're having a tough game and you know, you feel everybody staring at

00:46:19.180 you.

00:46:19.460 Is it better when you're in that dugout then when the team's batting, at least, is there

00:46:22.960 some like respite or is that hellish too?

00:46:24.920 Because it's like, that's when your head's going nuts.

00:46:27.340 When you're out there, it's kind of like, all right, fastball, we'll try this one again.

00:46:30.460 It's already sucked, but we'll give it a shot.

00:46:32.980 When you're sitting in the dugout and you're just like looking around, everybody's, we're

00:46:37.080 down six to nothing.

00:46:38.260 Everybody's sad.

00:46:39.380 And you're always by yourself too.

00:46:40.600 When the camera shows the pitcher who's losing, he's always by himself over there and he's

00:46:44.120 pissed off.

00:46:44.620 And you did this.

00:46:45.440 This is my fault.

00:46:47.160 Damn, that's heavy, man.

00:46:48.180 It sucks.

00:46:48.800 Yeah.

00:46:50.540 So you have a contract now and then what happens?

00:46:54.260 So how long does a rookie contract, is there a year, amount of years to it?

00:46:57.160 Yeah, so you become a free agent after six full service years.

00:46:59.720 Thank you all this information, man.

00:47:00.620 It's just, you know, stuff I'm just curious about.

00:47:02.660 I think it's interesting because I think people probably know the least about baseball contracts

00:47:06.880 of any of them.

00:47:07.440 I'm like, when somebody, Zion Williamson gets drafted, everyone knows how long he has to

00:47:13.000 be a Pelican and what he's going to make and his shoe, nobody knows shit about us.

00:47:16.820 Yeah.

00:47:17.300 We have to play six full seasons in the big leagues.

00:47:20.220 So 172 days is a full season.

00:47:24.220 So if you don't, whatever six times 172 is, you have to have that many days in the big

00:47:28.600 leagues to be a free agent.

00:47:31.620 After three years, you get arbitration.

00:47:34.260 Okay.

00:47:34.780 So like Clevenger's in arbitration.

00:47:37.280 Next year will be in arbitration.

00:47:38.800 So I'm on my last year, my three years.

00:47:40.680 Okay.

00:47:41.340 So once you get in arbitration, then what?

00:47:43.400 What does that mean?

00:47:43.860 Then it's you versus the team and an arbitrator and your agent.

00:47:47.140 Oh, to figure out a new deal.

00:47:48.120 And you basically argue what you're worth.

00:47:50.500 So the team will sit there and tell you to your face how bad you suck.

00:47:53.680 Right.

00:47:54.100 And you'll tell them how great you are.

00:47:55.620 Right.

00:47:55.800 And then the guy in the middle will tell you, here's where we're at.

00:48:00.160 Huh.

00:48:00.580 Interesting.

00:48:01.020 So after this next year, you'll be able to go in arbitration.

00:48:03.280 Yep.

00:48:03.440 So this is a big season for you.

00:48:06.380 In some ways, that third season is a big season for guys because they want to do well

00:48:09.900 that season.

00:48:10.520 Yeah, you have to.

00:48:11.380 They call it a platform year.

00:48:13.200 So this was like the worst season you could get hurt.

00:48:15.860 That's why I mean, Corey Seager got hurt in its third year.

00:48:18.740 He probably made half of what he would have if he would have played healthy.

00:48:23.240 But also, it's interesting because this season counts as a season, right?

00:48:26.320 This upcoming one.

00:48:27.800 So I wonder if they'll really put as much value.

00:48:30.760 It's almost like, well, they still just go off of last year.

00:48:32.740 Well, it's a double-edged sword, right?

00:48:33.860 Because if you do great, they can say, well, you wouldn't have sustained that.

00:48:37.960 And if you do terrible, they can say, you were terrible.

00:48:40.820 Right.

00:48:41.480 But our argument's like, well, I wouldn't have sustained the shitty part either, you

00:48:44.760 know, but.

00:48:45.340 So in the end, it's going to be the same.

00:48:46.560 You're going to say, they're going to say one thing and you're going to say.

00:48:48.600 Yeah.

00:48:48.860 Everything.

00:48:49.180 I mean, everything counts, but.

00:48:50.800 Yeah.

00:48:50.960 It's just business.

00:48:52.000 It has to be.

00:48:52.520 What about some of these guys?

00:48:54.760 So you go up against a guy, like, are there pitchers where you're like, okay, I'm excited

00:48:59.740 about this duel today?

00:49:00.980 Like, do you feel like it's, this is going to be a real pitcher's game?

00:49:05.280 Do you feel, well, you don't ever feel like any of them are going to be hitter's games

00:49:07.760 because you don't want that team to be hitting.

00:49:09.340 Yeah, I can't.

00:49:09.860 We, we, I just want us to hit.

00:49:11.340 Right.

00:49:11.740 I don't want them to at all.

00:49:13.040 Jack Flaherty and I have had two good, we both did really well against each other.

00:49:16.860 We just got lucky and scored a couple of runs.

00:49:18.740 So, um, Scherzer and I had a couple of good games, a pitch against Garrett Cole, which

00:49:22.860 was cool.

00:49:23.980 Um, the playoffs really get like that.

00:49:25.880 That's when it, that's when it really is like when the matchups are really like, okay.

00:49:29.020 Yeah.

00:49:29.140 Because it's all over social media and it's like, we're the only 100% starter, right?

00:49:34.060 Like the manager could flip the lineup if they felt like it.

00:49:37.140 Right.

00:49:37.420 But the media knows it's Bueller versus Strasburg tomorrow and that's everywhere.

00:49:43.180 So you're like, oh, I gotta, I gotta beat him.

00:49:45.740 Yeah.

00:49:46.480 That's when it gets a little more like that.

00:49:48.060 I think.

00:49:48.600 Here's a question right here from someone.

00:49:51.920 Uh, my question for Walker is who's the hardest hitter you've had to face so far?

00:49:59.680 See, I like this black Charlie Blackman is a guy that has the best numbers off me in

00:50:03.940 my career.

00:50:05.200 Got hair like yours.

00:50:06.560 Really?

00:50:06.820 I don't know if you want to pull up a picture of him.

00:50:08.200 Yeah, pull up a picture of a little Chucky Blackman right there, dude.

00:50:11.140 This guy's a good player though.

00:50:12.620 I'll fucking hit off his head.

00:50:13.720 Plays out in Denver.

00:50:14.660 There you go.

00:50:15.120 Oh, does he?

00:50:16.020 Oh yeah.

00:50:16.680 Look at the hat.

00:50:17.480 He reminds me of Brian Wilson a little bit.

00:50:19.020 Remember Brian Wilson?

00:50:19.840 Oh yeah.

00:50:21.980 See, I think if he threw a little beard, we could get a...

00:50:24.360 Or Mike Chiesa.

00:50:26.240 MMA fighter.

00:50:28.100 Who's that?

00:50:28.840 Michael Chiesa.

00:50:30.160 Huh.

00:50:31.100 There was, he looks like that UFC fighter that won this past week too.

00:50:34.780 The big heavyweight.

00:50:35.600 Oh yeah, Tanner Boser.

00:50:37.700 Yeah, the Canadian dude.

00:50:38.700 Oh, I didn't see that fight.

00:50:41.140 I've really gotten into that stuff since this quarantine.

00:50:44.060 It's been like the only thing.

00:50:45.600 That's what I was saying about, that's what I was thinking about you guys the other day

00:50:47.720 when I was thinking about baseball.

00:50:48.620 I was like, man, if you guys get, just coming back and being there for people right now

00:50:52.920 is going to be huge because people want to watch anything.

00:50:56.540 They want to watch some competition.

00:50:58.520 I mean, you can't even get, there's no fresh television shows because everything, they're

00:51:01.700 putting on shitty television shows they weren't even going to pick up.

00:51:03.800 Right.

00:51:04.160 Because they have to.

00:51:05.360 Yeah.

00:51:05.580 I mean, they have like dodgeball.

00:51:06.940 They have like, you know, it's getting real bad.

00:51:09.380 Rumors.

00:51:09.860 It's just people just sharing rumors as quick as they can.

00:51:12.860 I mean, it's getting really, really limited out there.

00:51:14.960 They're like a cross between cops and cheaters.

00:51:17.060 Yeah.

00:51:18.220 Dude, cheaters used to be good.

00:51:19.520 Remember that show?

00:51:20.440 I think that was a little before my time, to be honest with you.

00:51:23.320 Yeah, it might have been, man.

00:51:24.140 I like it.

00:51:24.660 I remember watching it when I was like 12 and being like, this is so old.

00:51:28.040 Oh, yeah.

00:51:29.560 Dude, the best cheaters was when the guy busts somebody on a boat and the guy stabs him on

00:51:34.260 a boat and gets yourself out of it.

00:51:35.940 Just tough to watch.

00:51:37.960 Dude, I met that guy at a wine function out here in LA, dude.

00:51:41.860 He was like, yeah, man, that was a tough episode.

00:51:45.140 Which guy?

00:51:45.860 The guy who stabbed him or the host?

00:51:47.280 The guy who got stabbed, yeah.

00:51:48.780 Pretty cool.

00:51:49.400 That's one weird thing about LA, man.

00:51:51.420 That was a tough episode.

00:51:52.920 Dude, I met, yeah, let me see if we can see that stabbing.

00:51:57.400 Oh, God.

00:51:58.180 My boat out, Randy?

00:51:59.000 Nope.

00:51:59.760 Yeah, I'm back up off my boat, you know what I'm saying?

00:52:02.200 His quality looks like my sixth birthday home video.

00:52:09.040 No!

00:52:09.720 No, no, no!

00:52:11.220 Stop!

00:52:13.360 They launched him off the boat?

00:52:15.180 Stop!

00:52:15.500 He's a little, he seemed like a little bitch, too, Joey Ducker, so I think he kind of went off.

00:52:19.960 Yeah.

00:52:21.320 Put your head behind your back.

00:52:23.040 Put it back easy.

00:52:23.860 Don't see me anymore.

00:52:25.620 I would hate this on a boat.

00:52:28.140 Yeah, I'm all right.

00:52:28.780 You got arrested at sea, too, huh?

00:52:30.600 Yeah.

00:52:30.820 He's in here.

00:52:31.400 Yeah.

00:52:32.260 By not even police.

00:52:33.560 That's a weird thing.

00:52:35.640 Now, there's off-season stuff you can't do, right?

00:52:38.620 Or is it limited for you or not?

00:52:40.760 Yeah, I mean, I think kind of the obvious stuff, skiing, stuff like that we can't do.

00:52:45.440 And you can't do it at all?

00:52:47.340 Well, you can.

00:52:49.080 But if you break your collarbone, your contract's gone.

00:52:51.920 Right.

00:52:52.440 You know, so I love-

00:52:53.240 So it's really risky.

00:52:53.940 I love to ski and stuff, but you can't do it.

00:52:56.000 You'll ski later.

00:52:56.860 Yeah.

00:52:57.500 Some people have some weird stuff in their contract.

00:52:59.580 I've heard guys aren't allowed to wear flip-flops, you know, because they have bad ankles.

00:53:03.700 Oh, damn.

00:53:04.220 So the team will put that in that contract.

00:53:05.840 No, no flip-flops for you.

00:53:07.800 So, but yeah, golf is even supposed to not be allowed any tubing, skiing, snowboarding,

00:53:15.020 none of that shit.

00:53:16.020 So do you feel limited everywhere you're a contract or no?

00:53:18.120 You just kind of know that those are the rules of the business I'm in.

00:53:22.020 Yeah.

00:53:22.420 I mean, you sign it.

00:53:24.160 You can't not sign the contract, right?

00:53:25.840 So, yeah, I mean, I'd like to go ski, but you just can't do it.

00:53:30.560 Yeah.

00:53:33.000 Do you think you guys will have the opportunity to bring in new fans with the games starting up?

00:53:37.800 They said that at UFC, I was listening the other day, I think it was on Chael Sonnen's

00:53:42.600 podcast, but that they brought in 100,000 new fans, 100,000 people watched UFC for the

00:53:49.700 first time this past week of fights.

00:53:52.520 Yeah.

00:53:52.540 Yeah.

00:53:52.660 That wouldn't, that doesn't surprise me at all.

00:53:54.540 You know, I think they did a really good job actually being the first, you know what

00:53:57.360 I mean?

00:53:57.600 I think they probably have the most controllable environment though, because you have the least

00:54:01.620 amount of people in a locker room probably.

00:54:03.820 So I think they did a good job of like taking advantage of it.

00:54:06.580 Um, I think more so our fans are like going to be happy that we're back, I guess.

00:54:11.060 Right.

00:54:11.540 Um, but yeah, I mean, hopefully everybody watches and we're getting back before the NBA, so maybe

00:54:17.280 get some of those fans a little bit waiting for, for them to come back.

00:54:20.540 But do, um, do you think so?

00:54:24.720 You know, what will be interesting is they should have more focus and information maybe about

00:54:29.340 you guys, the players, because they're not going to be focusing on the stand.

00:54:33.380 You know, there won't be anything really to look at in the stands.

00:54:35.840 Right.

00:54:36.200 So they're going to have, yeah, they're probably have an extra 20 minutes a game to fill, you

00:54:40.120 know, just of, just of screen time.

00:54:41.960 Yeah.

00:54:42.180 I've seen some good fights in San Francisco, by the way.

00:54:43.480 Oh, in the stands?

00:54:43.820 Right behind home plate.

00:54:44.820 Yeah.

00:54:45.080 This woman just smoked this guy.

00:54:47.180 It was pretty cool stuff.

00:54:48.560 Dude, I was, I'll tell you, this is before you were a Dodger, I got, I was high on cocaine.

00:54:53.300 This is when I was using drugs and I was high on cocaine at the Dodgers game, dude.

00:54:57.080 And I sat up in the top, bro, dude.

00:54:58.960 The nosebleeds literally up there.

00:55:01.320 And the nosebleeds, I think are also a gang that's up there as well.

00:55:04.500 There's literally a gang called the nosebleeds up there.

00:55:07.580 And there was one dude, man, I was so sketched out.

00:55:09.840 There's one guy the whole time is threatening to kill me, bro.

00:55:13.700 I think he knows I'm high.

00:55:15.120 And he keeps saying, man, I'm going to fucking kill you, papa.

00:55:17.520 And then there's another guy, bro, who kept trying to sell me more drugs.

00:55:21.140 Right.

00:55:22.260 It was like the angel and the devil.

00:55:24.240 But actually.

00:55:25.400 And there might not even really have been anybody there.

00:55:27.280 I could have been at home, man.

00:55:28.320 It sounded like two devils.

00:55:30.060 Yeah, yeah.

00:55:30.680 Double devils, man.

00:55:31.780 It could have been at a Raiders game.

00:55:33.580 But, dude, I remember it being so.

00:55:35.840 Bro, I was like, please.

00:55:36.860 And then every time there was a foul ball or any time the ball hit the bat,

00:55:39.700 I thought it was coming right at me.

00:55:40.780 You have to.

00:55:41.240 And I was in the third deck, bro.

00:55:42.980 Yeah, that'll happen, I think.

00:55:45.280 Low altitude up there, too.

00:55:47.320 You guys play at one of the biggest stadiums, don't you?

00:55:49.300 Yeah, it's gigantic.

00:55:50.100 That was the one thing I remember the most from my debut was, like,

00:55:53.120 you never really know how it's going to feel.

00:55:54.700 You know, you run out there and you're all tired from running.

00:55:57.520 And adrenaline, you look up in this stadium, seems like it goes on forever.

00:56:01.820 And you just, it's so weird to me how big they built these things.

00:56:07.060 Here we got a young fellow right here, a Twins fan.

00:56:13.640 Minnesota?

00:56:14.220 What up, Theo?

00:56:15.080 What up, Walker?

00:56:16.120 This is Noah from North Dakota, Minnesota's neighbor.

00:56:19.220 If you didn't know North Dakota is a state, just a quick question regarding a specific MLB stadium.

00:56:27.300 I know that you play the Rockies often, being in the NL West, and you had 16Ks on them last year at home.

00:56:33.700 But does your approach change when you're going into Coors Field to pitch in Colorado due to that high altitude?

00:56:40.160 Are you looking for more ground balls?

00:56:41.640 Do you pitch around people more often?

00:56:43.640 So let me know.

00:56:44.840 Gang, gang, good luck in your modified season.

00:56:47.540 I like that.

00:56:49.600 Nice guy.

00:56:50.880 A lot of nice people, man.

00:56:52.880 Yeah, what is that?

00:56:53.740 Coors Field sucks.

00:56:54.700 So the ball acts completely different.

00:56:56.420 It flies a lot further when they hit it.

00:56:58.340 So, you know, I think every time I pitch there, I just come up with some new thing in my head that makes me think I can survive.

00:57:07.420 So it's almost more about survival there.

00:57:08.680 So that's not the kind of place you think I can probably get a no-hitter out here.

00:57:11.420 No, no, no.

00:57:13.300 Hideo Nomo, who was a big Asian pitcher for us back in the day,

00:57:16.880 he threw a no-hitter there, though, which I think is maybe the most impressive thing of all time.

00:57:22.160 But, yeah, the pitches just act different.

00:57:24.740 You know, I almost feel bad for some of the pitchers that got drafted there

00:57:27.820 because you're not really, like, playing on the same game that we are because it's just –

00:57:34.440 And why is it?

00:57:35.180 What is it?

00:57:35.700 Because the air is thinner, so what?

00:57:37.400 Right.

00:57:37.600 So the ball can't – like, as the ball goes, it'll move certain ways because it gets air and you're spinning it

00:57:43.160 and it pulls it other ways.

00:57:44.380 There, the air is thinner, so it doesn't pull it the same way.

00:57:46.580 Oh, interesting.

00:57:47.160 So if there's less moisture in the air, then there's less for the ball to grip on while it's in the air?

00:57:50.380 Yep.

00:57:50.940 Yeah, so you can't do the same things that you normally do or you have to try and aim certain –

00:57:55.660 you know, all season you throw one pitch the same way to the same area

00:57:58.480 and it pretty much does what you think it's going to do in there.

00:58:01.300 It'll end up half – moving half as much and right in the middle and they just kill you.

00:58:05.900 Now, what about – how do you pitch – so say you want a guy to hit a ball, like a ground ball.

00:58:10.540 Like, how do you pouty – how do you pitch to him?

00:58:12.560 Typically, you're going to throw a lower.

00:58:13.920 Okay.

00:58:14.620 Higher means ground balls – or higher means fly balls, lower means ground balls typically.

00:58:19.880 Now, obviously, the scouting and all that stuff and kind of the research that we do.

00:58:23.860 So certain guys really can hit the ball low and whatever.

00:58:27.540 But typically, you're going to aim lower.

00:58:30.400 Yeah.

00:58:31.020 It would be the big thing.

00:58:32.440 Do you guys – is there a lot of like – do you feel like there's good team unity,

00:58:36.760 as much team unity as you've gone up through the ranks?

00:58:39.660 Because didn't you play some at AAA for some?

00:58:41.840 Yeah, so you play in the minor leagues and that's like the toughest thing to actually have like a cohesive team

00:58:45.840 because every week that team has two or three guys that they didn't the week before.

00:58:50.860 Wow.

00:58:51.180 And everyone's – you've got to be super selfish in the minor leagues.

00:58:53.960 You try and not act like it, but 95% of your thoughts are about how good you're doing.

00:58:59.440 Once you get to the big leagues, it's about winning.

00:59:01.220 Yeah.

00:59:01.500 So, yeah, in the big leagues is where you kind of come together more.

00:59:06.360 But at the same time, you've got guys that are making crazy money

00:59:08.720 and living a completely different life than you.

00:59:11.000 And if you're making the league minimum, some guys are making $25, $30 million.

00:59:15.840 You're just going to live differently.

00:59:17.380 You know what I mean?

00:59:17.900 Oh, yeah.

00:59:18.600 The other thing I think that's hard about LA is none of us live near each other.

00:59:22.960 I think if you play in Cincinnati, you're going to live in two or three little neighborhoods.

00:59:26.840 Buildings here, neighborhoods, yeah.

00:59:27.460 And you can go have a barbecue on off days and stuff like that.

00:59:30.020 And we try and do it.

00:59:31.000 But for me to go to Kirsch's house from Marina last year, it was an hour and a half.

00:59:34.880 Yeah.

00:59:35.520 So it's hard to do that kind of stuff, I think.

00:59:37.340 But I think inside of our clubhouse, all of us are pretty close.

00:59:41.160 Is there a sport that you guys compete in off outside of baseball?

00:59:44.500 We play a lot of cards.

00:59:45.640 Oh, really?

00:59:46.180 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:59:47.860 I've kind of been swimming in some other waters.

00:59:50.680 Yeah, yeah.

00:59:51.160 Because I'm playing against guys that are making real, real money.

00:59:53.660 And not that we don't make enough money, but comparatively.

00:59:56.880 Right.

00:59:57.340 So you can just get bullied and lose all your money.

01:00:00.080 Oh, so you guys would meet up and do some poker games or stuff like that?

01:00:02.480 On the flights most of the time.

01:00:03.660 Right.

01:00:03.860 That's like the big past the time on the flights thing is we play poker.

01:00:08.040 Is it just poker?

01:00:08.840 Do you all play rummy, gin, anything like that?

01:00:10.360 Different things?

01:00:10.900 We used to play a game called 357, which is my personal favorite.

01:00:14.780 And what screwed me is I won a lot of money playing that game.

01:00:19.060 And so then I had to stay in the poker games or else I was like the dickhead that won the money and then bounced.

01:00:25.320 Oh, yeah, yeah.

01:00:25.940 That's the fucking thing about poker.

01:00:27.380 You got to stay until you lose it.

01:00:29.220 Right.

01:00:29.520 So we're playing this other game and then this was my rookie year.

01:00:32.520 We got some new guys on the team at the trade deadline.

01:00:34.660 They're like, no, no, no, no.

01:00:35.780 We're playing poker.

01:00:37.580 I was like, all right.

01:00:40.020 And I just lost every time.

01:00:42.700 But I'd rather lose it than be the guy that ran away, I think.

01:00:46.000 Yeah.

01:00:46.440 Still not fun.

01:00:47.980 What were some other things going into those minor leagues and being in that vibe where it's like, are there things that you miss about that a little bit?

01:00:56.140 Yeah.

01:00:56.380 I mean, you used to share like a two-bedroom apartment with four guys, which is like, it sucks.

01:01:02.200 It's not perfect, but it's kind of fun at times, I think.

01:01:06.020 You know, everybody rolls to the field together, goes home, kind of.

01:01:09.500 Yeah, it's fun to have people to clown around with.

01:01:11.200 Yeah, just mess around with after games, especially because you're, first on the minor leagues, you're not making no money.

01:01:16.080 You're making $1,200 a month.

01:01:19.660 Oh, yeah.

01:01:20.280 Wow.

01:01:20.540 So you're making, you know, you're talking taxes.

01:01:23.140 You're getting like $400 maybe every two weeks.

01:01:27.840 And that's only for seven months of the year, six months of the year.

01:01:30.400 We don't get paid in the offseason.

01:01:32.000 So, yeah, you're just splitting and kind of.

01:01:34.740 Damn.

01:01:35.180 So you almost, a lot of those guys have to have somebody to bankroll them almost or you got to really share places.

01:01:39.720 Yeah, I know a lot of guys that get jobs all offseason and then try and train and whatever.

01:01:43.940 But that's where the luxury of being picked high in the draft is, is you get this little bonus that, you know, kind of sets you up to where you can live and just train and get ready to get to the big leagues, I think.

01:01:54.360 What do you think the dismantling of that, like this season they didn't have it, you know, they didn't have the minors.

01:01:59.700 And I don't even know.

01:02:00.860 I'm not sure if those guys are still getting paid.

01:02:02.900 Maybe they are.

01:02:03.360 They got little stipends, I think.

01:02:05.100 But would that be tough to say, like, if you'd have gone through that?

01:02:08.800 I mean, what would that have been like?

01:02:10.320 Do you think you still would have been pitching a year later?

01:02:12.580 I mean, I think I would have played.

01:02:14.020 As I said, I was really fortunate to have kind of a little nest egg to fall back on.

01:02:18.060 What if you hadn't had that, you know?

01:02:19.320 Right.

01:02:19.560 I think it's very tough.

01:02:20.840 I think those guys.

01:02:21.640 And the other thing that sucks about that is there's no clue if and when they were going to play.

01:02:25.940 So it's not like you can walk into Lululemon and get a job and say, hey, you know, I can be here for a year.

01:02:33.260 I can be here for six months.

01:02:34.200 You have to say, listen, I'd love to have a job, but I may be gone in three weeks, you know?

01:02:39.600 So that's where it was pretty financially tough.

01:02:42.500 And David Price, who we just traded for from the Red Sox, came out and really gave all of our minor leaguers like $1,000 in June, which is just super, super cool.

01:02:52.040 It's huge. Yeah, it's really nice.

01:02:53.220 Just to kind of help guys try and stay afloat during this whole thing.

01:02:56.860 Yeah, and just that support that other people are thinking about you, like, hey, you know, somebody else is thinking about what's going on with you.

01:03:01.700 Yeah, he's never played a game for us.

01:03:03.560 We just got him, and he still did that for our guys, which I think was really, really cool.

01:03:07.440 And some other guys have done similar stuff.

01:03:09.580 And, you know, some teams have committed to paying that stipend for a while.

01:03:14.400 But, you know, I don't think minor league baseball will ever look the same because you're thinking, like, we have a low-A team in the city I'm from in Lexington that was on the list to be chopped before all this, let alone after.

01:03:27.540 Oh, wow.

01:03:28.080 But, you know, these tiny, small towns, there's just not that many people.

01:03:32.020 So it's hard to own a baseball team in rural Iowa, you know.

01:03:37.280 But it's a bummer, too, because then the kids that were going to go there and watch the game who were then like, oh, I want to play this.

01:03:42.180 You know, who are finding that, you know, filling that space in their head where inspiration lives aren't going to have that.

01:03:47.800 Right.

01:03:48.180 Yeah, less chances.

01:03:49.920 And, you know, you're not going to have, I don't think you'll have as many kind of Cinderella stories.

01:03:53.740 Like you talked about Mike Piazza, he was like the last round pick or whatever.

01:03:58.440 Wow.

01:03:58.580 You know, I read his book, I forget what round it was, but back then they had like 70 rounds.

01:04:03.180 It was like a 65th round pick.

01:04:04.180 Yeah, the last slice of Piazza, I think, was his book.

01:04:06.560 Sorry, that was horrible.

01:04:07.980 But anyway, I did.

01:04:09.960 But obviously we tell some pretty bad jokes in here.

01:04:14.580 Oh, man, I was going to ask you about, we were just talking about the minor leagues.

01:04:20.560 You do a golf tournament, is that what you do?

01:04:22.440 I do.

01:04:22.960 As a fundraiser?

01:04:23.660 Yeah, so we did our second one this past year, which was pretty cool.

01:04:26.900 The first year, I had an uncle pass away from kind of long-term complications of child pediatric cancer.

01:04:34.660 So he beat it and then passed away at like 42.

01:04:38.100 Oh, that's young, huh?

01:04:39.420 Yeah.

01:04:39.600 Your dad's brother?

01:04:40.480 Yeah, he was my dad's older brother.

01:04:41.940 He beat Hodgins at like 13 or 12.

01:04:44.980 Oh.

01:04:45.640 But, you know, back in the 80s, 70s, they didn't know what they were doing.

01:04:48.960 They were just kind of trying to zap you.

01:04:50.200 Is that back when they put you on a jar?

01:04:51.540 Remember they put a picture on a jar and just.

01:04:53.220 Yeah, they just see what happens.

01:04:54.460 That was the original like Facebook share, dude.

01:04:56.180 They would put a picture on a jar and set it at the pizza place and raise money.

01:05:00.000 Yeah, but no, so he passed away.

01:05:02.200 So we did it the first year for that.

01:05:03.900 We raised like $37,000, which was.

01:05:06.100 Oh, that's awesome.

01:05:06.760 Which was cool.

01:05:07.460 And we were so excited.

01:05:08.660 And then Rich Hill, who played with us the last couple of years, started a foundation called Field of Jeans,

01:05:14.860 which didn't know much about.

01:05:17.020 We kind of talked a lot.

01:05:17.980 He and I ended up becoming really close and talked about he had lost a son, which was fucking devastating, obviously.

01:05:24.000 We, you know, he told our whole team the story.

01:05:26.280 And so this past year we did it for his new initiative and raised $100,000 this year, which was really, really cool.

01:05:32.620 It's cool, huh?

01:05:33.260 So, yeah, I mean, you know, I think everyone does a golf tournament, you know, but it is really fun and cool.

01:05:41.380 And I think we're doing some good stuff.

01:05:43.100 Yeah.

01:05:43.780 Yeah, no, it sounds like it, man.

01:05:45.160 That's brave of him to even want to, you know, memorialize that.

01:05:49.940 I think even memorializing things can be kind of brave because you have to go through some of the feelings and stuff.

01:05:54.020 Yeah.

01:05:54.260 You know, he was super emotional about it, obviously, and, you know, spoke at the event and stuff.

01:05:59.880 And people were just like, all right, we're buying all this shit.

01:06:02.620 We're in.

01:06:03.300 Yeah.

01:06:03.600 And obviously, you know, the city of Lexington, being from there, it's pretty close-knit.

01:06:07.840 Really cool city, man.

01:06:09.000 Yeah.

01:06:09.240 I love it there.

01:06:10.240 It gets, you know, a lot of southern cities, too, get a rough rap.

01:06:13.920 Everybody, especially right now, everybody, you know, the news wants to make the south look kind of bad sometimes, I feel like.

01:06:18.820 And that stuff really makes me mad because there's some amazing cities there, man.

01:06:23.260 And Lexington's one of them.

01:06:24.420 It's super diverse.

01:06:25.720 You get down to the university, man.

01:06:27.180 It's so much fun.

01:06:28.020 There's the strangest people, dude.

01:06:29.300 I've had some of the strangest times.

01:06:30.960 I saw a guy, I saw a guy do the worm all the way around a four-way intersection.

01:06:38.640 Yeah, worm Eddie.

01:06:39.520 Yeah.

01:06:39.860 Oh, really?

01:06:40.720 No.

01:06:41.340 Oh, this guy definitely, dude.

01:06:43.300 Look, it looked like he had some miles on his belly.

01:06:45.680 You know what I'm saying?

01:06:46.400 Yeah, some calluses.

01:06:47.300 Oh, really?

01:06:48.260 Yeah.

01:06:48.580 He was calloused around the belly button.

01:06:51.880 No, I was going to.

01:06:52.300 Oh, so one time I got invited.

01:06:55.460 I used to work as a tour manager for this guy, Josh Kelly, who is a musician.

01:07:00.020 And he and his brother, both musicians, and they had a golf tournament because his brother works in that band Lady Antebellum.

01:07:09.200 And I got to stay in a, they put us up, it was in Augusta, Georgia, and they put us up in different, I don't know.

01:07:16.620 And Ozzie Smith was in mine, which was really, really cool, man.

01:07:22.620 Chris Dolman was in there.

01:07:24.140 He used to play for Minnesota.

01:07:25.140 This is a little bit before your time.

01:07:26.000 Jim Furyk was in there, golfer.

01:07:28.700 And it was me and that guy, Dan.

01:07:32.140 Remember Dave versus Dan for the Olympics or whatever?

01:07:35.860 You were probably too young, but it was like Dan versus.

01:07:39.760 Dan versus Dave, or Dave versus Dan, yeah.

01:07:41.760 Yeah, they were both.

01:07:42.300 I remember Man versus Wild.

01:07:43.500 Yeah, this is before that, yeah.

01:07:45.720 This was back when it was just Man versus Man, dude.

01:07:49.800 When Man was less lonely, and now it's just Man versus Wild.

01:07:53.600 Like the Catholic guys?

01:07:54.880 Yes, yes, the Catholic guys.

01:07:56.580 And this was huge when I was a kid.

01:07:57.620 They were both supposed to go to the Olympics, and I think one of them didn't qualify.

01:08:01.040 And so that was like the big bummer.

01:08:04.620 Yeah, Dan versus Dave.

01:08:05.900 Can you find it on Wikipedia too?

01:08:07.560 Thanks, bud.

01:08:08.100 At advertising, the campaign was a television commercials.

01:08:13.540 O'Brien and Johnson were favored to win medals in Barcelona, which had recently lost U.S. market share to Nike.

01:08:18.820 He was hoping to rebound with their endorsement.

01:08:22.740 When arrived five weeks before the games began, when O'Brien failed to qualify for the American Olympic team by missing the pole vault.

01:08:28.520 Huh.

01:08:29.340 Damn.

01:08:30.960 Yeah, dude.

01:08:31.680 So all of America's fired up for them to go to the Olympics.

01:08:33.960 That's wild.

01:08:34.460 And one of them didn't go.

01:08:35.820 I wonder where he's at now.

01:08:39.240 Well, so my Olympic story, the first guy, or this spring, first spring training, I got to play golf with Michael Phelps, which was one of the coolest things ever.

01:08:47.020 With that long belly, huh?

01:08:48.240 Hey, I've never seen.

01:08:49.320 He's like a pike, dude.

01:08:49.760 He's like a real, he's like a damn pike.

01:08:51.420 He looks like a fish with a face.

01:08:52.840 Does he really?

01:08:53.460 No, but.

01:08:54.620 Right.

01:08:55.080 Okay.

01:08:55.640 You just see him swimming.

01:08:57.160 Yeah.

01:08:57.480 Right on.

01:08:58.700 I'm telling you, that guy's golf swimming.

01:09:00.080 I've never seen so many shoulders, so he raps when he's done that golf club.

01:09:05.440 He's just so mobile.

01:09:07.560 It was awesome.

01:09:08.960 Really?

01:09:09.520 He was a good dude.

01:09:09.980 Yeah.

01:09:10.220 He seemed to be a cool dude, and yeah, it was fun.

01:09:13.060 Dang.

01:09:13.480 That's pretty cool, man.

01:09:14.940 Now, golf tournaments, I will say one thing that's amazing about them is the people you

01:09:18.100 get to meet at them.

01:09:18.920 Yeah.

01:09:19.820 There's a lot.

01:09:20.500 That one in Phoenix is crazy, apparently.

01:09:22.280 I still haven't gone.

01:09:23.220 What is it?

01:09:23.940 The before the US Open or something?

01:09:25.340 The Waste Management Open.

01:09:26.480 No, it's a PG.

01:09:27.060 That's the one they have the hole where everybody screams and yells.

01:09:29.620 Oh, wow.

01:09:30.340 Have you never seen this?

01:09:31.280 Uh-uh.

01:09:33.400 That's, oh, Michael Pelt's at Waste Management.

01:09:34.340 Yeah, see, that's at Waste Management, because he lives in Arizona, I think.

01:09:38.440 Yeah, put up this, I think it's a 17th hole Waste Management or whatever, or type in Waste

01:09:44.220 Management.

01:09:44.980 And it was, Michael.

01:09:45.680 We're looking for it.

01:09:46.000 No, no, no, no.

01:09:46.520 Just put up the Waste Management.

01:09:52.300 I think it is a 17th hole.

01:09:53.860 Yeah, so this is the only thing in golf like this.

01:09:58.040 16th hole.

01:09:59.300 They build up this giant stadium all around this hole.

01:10:03.880 And people can yell the whole time?

01:10:06.140 I think this is Ricky Fowler.

01:10:08.400 He's, like, pumping up the crowd.

01:10:09.700 It's the only place in golf.

01:10:11.600 And they just scream the whole time.

01:10:13.460 Really?

01:10:16.500 I see that guy in the jersey.

01:10:18.240 Yeah.

01:10:18.620 It's John Rahm.

01:10:19.140 He played at Arizona State.

01:10:20.200 So, this is, like, his home city, you know?

01:10:21.840 Uh-huh.

01:10:22.320 Because he's from Spain.

01:10:23.280 So, he's fired up.

01:10:24.640 And so, he's wearing an ASU.

01:10:25.840 I got one.

01:10:26.340 All right.

01:10:26.780 He's wearing an ASU uni.

01:10:31.340 Damn, Ricky Fowler is damn beautiful for a damn golfer, huh?

01:10:33.920 That's Jordan Spieth.

01:10:34.800 Oh, it is?

01:10:36.660 Oh, sorry, Ricky.

01:10:37.900 Oh, that ain't bad.

01:10:38.740 And so, this is a par three, huh?

01:10:40.140 Yeah, it's like a little short.

01:10:41.280 There's Ricky right there in the gray.

01:10:43.720 So, they play.

01:10:44.780 So, people can yell to her.

01:10:46.120 And there's Donald Trump Jr. as the caddy.

01:10:47.580 Do you see that?

01:10:48.160 No.

01:10:48.900 What's he?

01:10:50.140 Trump's son looks like the caddy right there with that.

01:10:51.880 It looked like him a little bit.

01:10:53.980 It's like a damn club in Vegas around this place.

01:10:57.720 They say it's wild.

01:10:59.220 Wow.

01:11:00.220 Where is it?

01:11:01.000 It's in Phoenix in, like, early February, I think.

01:11:04.020 Huh.

01:11:04.440 And so, they got a little quiet for when the actual hit.

01:11:07.000 But there was still a lot of chatter.

01:11:08.120 Because usually, it's dead quiet.

01:11:09.320 Type in Ricky Fowler.

01:11:10.860 Because there's one where he full-on, like, pumps up the crowd before he gets to the ball.

01:11:15.100 And he's like, it's too quiet.

01:11:16.200 And he steps back and starts screaming at him.

01:11:20.760 Place the crowd.

01:11:21.500 There you go.

01:11:21.920 Yeah, there you go.

01:11:25.460 Damn.

01:11:27.900 This is so awesome.

01:11:29.580 Oh, I'd be so nervous, bro.

01:11:34.120 Look at the guy with the sign.

01:11:35.180 And he's usually telling people to be quiet.

01:11:43.540 Wow.

01:11:47.260 They're just screaming.

01:11:54.240 Are you any good, Walker?

01:11:55.880 I'm all right.

01:11:56.500 I'm okay.

01:11:57.000 I did a lesson yesterday.

01:11:58.740 We're working on the game.

01:11:59.720 Okay.

01:12:00.180 We're working on it.

01:12:00.980 Are there any things about pitching that you correlate over to golf that help you?

01:12:05.260 You know what?

01:12:05.760 I think playing baseball and playing golf are actually, like, you have the basic, like,

01:12:09.960 you can rotate your hips quick.

01:12:11.820 And so, most of us can hit the ball pretty far.

01:12:14.100 But in baseball and golf, your legs work completely different.

01:12:17.840 So, we all have bad swings, even if they look all right.

01:12:20.560 Because our legs don't operate the way they should, I think, is the biggest thing.

01:12:25.660 Like, hitters don't really play golf much because they feel like it's going to mess with their swing.

01:12:30.140 So, like, when we were growing up, like, in high school, they'd be like, I'm going to play golf.

01:12:34.100 And they'd be like, no, you're not.

01:12:34.680 You have a game tomorrow.

01:12:35.880 Right.

01:12:36.240 Like, you can't mess up your swing.

01:12:37.660 Right.

01:12:37.860 Don't be thinking about slow playing.

01:12:39.280 Right.

01:12:39.880 Yeah.

01:12:40.580 Huh.

01:12:44.480 I'm trying to think of anything else, man.

01:12:46.920 You got anything, Nick?

01:12:47.840 Mm-mm.

01:12:48.580 I was curious.

01:12:49.500 This is just small.

01:12:50.860 Who is the arbitrator?

01:12:52.980 Is it someone who played baseball?

01:12:54.440 Is it an agent?

01:12:55.440 The arbitrator?

01:12:57.140 Oh, our head guy?

01:12:58.320 Yeah.

01:12:58.560 So, the head of the union's name is Tony Clark.

01:13:00.420 He had a pretty successful, like, a really successful career in the big leagues.

01:13:03.800 And then we have, like, his help, not helper is not the right word.

01:13:09.060 I don't know his official title.

01:13:10.140 His name is Bruce Meyer.

01:13:11.620 He helped with the NBA, CBA, with the NFL, CBA.

01:13:14.980 So, he's a professional arbiter.

01:13:16.080 Does a professional arbiter.

01:13:17.300 Yeah, but the head guy, the guy that comes out and speaks that you've heard him comment was a player.

01:13:21.580 Tony Clark.

01:13:22.080 Yeah.

01:13:22.280 So, you know, we have some interesting stuff.

01:13:25.500 We have big group phone calls and kind of talk through some stuff.

01:13:28.420 Wow.

01:13:29.300 Dude, that's totally...

01:13:30.000 I mean, it seems like you're kind of fucking growing up a little, dude.

01:13:33.920 Yeah, I'm trying, man.

01:13:34.720 I got engaged.

01:13:35.680 And then now I'm a player.

01:13:36.720 You got a second dog?

01:13:37.840 Second dog.

01:13:38.780 Yeah, we had Nala for about a year.

01:13:40.640 Nala's day off.

01:13:41.500 21 is her Instagram.

01:13:43.900 The new one, Beryl, doesn't have one yet.

01:13:45.600 But he's my little hunter.

01:13:46.160 Nala's day off?

01:13:47.060 Nala's day off 21, yeah.

01:13:48.340 And then Beryl Bueller will be the new one?

01:13:50.100 Yeah.

01:13:50.560 We don't know what we're going to do.

01:13:51.960 He's a Boykin, so Beryl Bueller the Boykin kind of works.

01:13:55.780 And a Boykin is what is it?

01:13:57.380 It's like a small cocker spaniel, but they're all brown.

01:14:00.440 They all look exactly the same.

01:14:01.800 Okay.

01:14:02.620 He'll be about 30 pounds, but I wanted a hunting dog.

01:14:05.600 I do a little bit of duck hunting here and there.

01:14:08.820 So we got that one because it's the smallest one you can get that can really go do that stuff.

01:14:14.360 But also small enough for my fiance to travel with a little bit.

01:14:17.800 Okay.

01:14:17.980 So she likes the dog, too?

01:14:20.080 Yeah.

01:14:20.320 She is absolutely obsessed with the first dog, Nala, our little French bulldog.

01:14:25.320 Okay.

01:14:25.680 Yeah, yeah.

01:14:26.180 We got that one opening day last year.

01:14:29.720 Oh, that's cool.

01:14:30.760 Yeah.

01:14:31.200 Then we drove down and got there.

01:14:32.180 Will you get one each year?

01:14:33.260 You think you're...

01:14:34.020 No.

01:14:34.500 I think this is it for a while.

01:14:36.340 Two is kind of...

01:14:38.320 People have told us that puppies are harder than kids, and I somewhat believe them.

01:14:43.000 Yeah?

01:14:43.360 Our first dog was kind of easy.

01:14:46.760 Nala was pretty good.

01:14:48.260 This other one just pisses everywhere.

01:14:50.840 He's tough.

01:14:51.740 Just anarchist.

01:14:52.440 Sounds like a drunk friend.

01:14:53.740 Yeah.

01:14:54.140 They're tough.

01:14:55.300 You know, but then I just left them at home with Mackenzie, so she's dealing with both of them.

01:15:01.220 Oh, they're in Kentucky right now?

01:15:03.380 Oh, yeah.

01:15:03.700 So will you get to go back at home at all during this stretch?

01:15:05.700 No, she'll come out here.

01:15:07.020 Okay.

01:15:07.840 She usually does about half the season.

01:15:10.100 I don't know what we're going to do this year.

01:15:11.400 We had it all planned out, but obviously that got changed up a little bit, so we'll figure

01:15:16.400 it out.

01:15:17.320 And you think you'll go head-to-head with Joe Musgrove this year or not?

01:15:20.260 No, we won't play them unless it's in the playoffs, because they're in the East.

01:15:24.480 So normally we would.

01:15:26.960 He pitched against us last year.

01:15:29.120 Do you have an arch rival out there that you love to pitch against?

01:15:31.540 I mean, you said Flaherty, but...

01:15:33.020 Not a single guy.

01:15:34.880 I think for us it's more teams.

01:15:36.020 Obviously, the Giants are big, and the Rockies have a lot of talent over there, so playing

01:15:41.200 them is always a big deal.

01:15:42.500 But that stuff happens more in your division, I think, than anything.

01:15:46.440 Is it fun to play against teams that have...

01:15:50.200 Do you want teams that have a lot of good hitters, or are you better if teams are kind

01:15:53.400 of a little bit...

01:15:53.700 No, I mean, I'd rather face your Little League team than a Little League team.

01:15:57.720 The Cub clubs, yeah.

01:15:59.000 In all honesty, but no, I mean, I think it's good stuff when you're trying to get ready

01:16:03.540 for the playoffs and things like that, when you face these good teams and get used to,

01:16:07.320 all right, these guys could legitimately kill me.

01:16:09.240 Not kill me, but crush me, you know?

01:16:11.320 So, you know, it takes a little something to get ready to get go like that.

01:16:15.320 Yeah.

01:16:15.700 What were you going to say about Charlie Blackman?

01:16:17.360 I think we kind of went off on that.

01:16:19.740 He and Theo have the same hair.

01:16:21.040 Oh, and he's the hardest hitter, too?

01:16:22.920 Well, he's had the most success off me in the big leagues ever.

01:16:26.080 Damn.

01:16:26.560 So there's a little bit of hope for you.

01:16:29.000 Obviously, there's that power.

01:16:30.000 That's that power flow.

01:16:31.420 What do you attribute it to?

01:16:32.420 Is there anything about him specifically that you notice?

01:16:34.820 You know, I think as we scout, you learn, like, oh, this guy hits this pitch really

01:16:39.160 good and this pitch really bad and things like that.

01:16:42.040 And, you know, my strengths as a pitcher, what I can do best is kind of his strengths.

01:16:47.520 A lot of times, you know, you want to stay with your strengths unless a guy has a glaring

01:16:52.040 weakness and he doesn't have any glaring ones.

01:16:54.160 So I just kind of have to go with what I do well and he happens to handle it pretty well.

01:17:00.240 But there's just bad matchups and good matchups.

01:17:02.940 There's really good hitters that just I match up well against or are really bad hitters,

01:17:07.640 you know, against most people that still get do really well against me.

01:17:11.500 That just that's that's why baseball is kind of a weird game in that way.

01:17:15.160 I think.

01:17:16.300 What about bunters?

01:17:17.580 Do you guys hate it?

01:17:18.360 I think it's it seems dumb.

01:17:19.700 But is it dumb?

01:17:20.220 Is it you guys or what's weird about that is when a guy bunts like that's our only

01:17:24.360 chance, like kind of look athletic.

01:17:26.160 And when it's happening, you feel so athletic.

01:17:29.780 Do you really?

01:17:30.560 Oh, my God.

01:17:31.140 You sprint off, grab it, throw it.

01:17:33.360 And then I see it on replay and I run like an idiot.

01:17:37.920 Really?

01:17:38.740 Yeah.

01:17:39.120 Everybody gives me shit about how I run.

01:17:41.160 Is he a walk or people are fielding bunt?

01:17:43.580 I don't think there's going to be any footage.

01:17:45.460 What is it, bro?

01:17:46.320 What's going on?

01:17:47.540 Is it mechanics?

01:17:48.500 What is it?

01:17:49.100 Yeah, I got bad hips.

01:17:50.500 Oh, yeah.

01:17:51.300 Oh, you might have dysplasia like my buddy Scott's Australian Shepherd.

01:17:54.180 Yeah, it's.

01:17:55.420 Yeah, you might, man.

01:17:56.520 I bet that that athletic shepherd still runs way better than I do.

01:18:01.560 Oh, man.

01:18:02.240 Walker Bueller, thanks so much for joining us, man.

01:18:03.920 Yeah, it was fun, man.

01:18:04.820 Yeah, appreciate it, dude.

01:18:05.600 Best of luck, dude.

01:18:06.480 Congrats on.

01:18:07.860 That was your first All-Star season, right?

01:18:09.860 Yep.

01:18:10.300 Wow, man.

01:18:11.100 Yeah, I'll see if they can.

01:18:11.960 You know, I don't know if you're going to be able to come to any games.

01:18:14.060 I'll see if they'll bring you some tickets.

01:18:15.280 I could just send them to your house.

01:18:16.500 Yeah, I'll just.

01:18:17.120 Dude, I might buy one of those cardboard cutouts.

01:18:18.740 Yeah, we might have to do that.

01:18:20.320 Or we'll send Michael Lennon, or we'll send Nick.

01:18:21.820 We'll give them a day off.

01:18:23.020 Yeah, we'll get.

01:18:23.820 What we'll do is we'll get some of our buddies and find some bad photos of them and just submit them.

01:18:28.640 Bro, you know what would you find if we paid for Brian and Brendan to be out there in the stands?

01:18:32.400 Which is some horrible pictures of them.

01:18:34.560 Yeah, which are a lot of their pictures.

01:18:36.600 We really should.

01:18:37.620 That would be so good.

01:18:39.120 Find a picture.

01:18:39.800 I guess Brian just got his eyes done or something, I heard.

01:18:42.580 Yeah, dude.

01:18:43.300 He got part of his eyes taken out.

01:18:44.620 Send in the picture of him all swelled up.

01:18:47.400 Oh, that'd be so good.

01:18:48.760 Dude, that's a great idea.

01:18:51.000 Maybe we'll do a little fundraiser or something and we'll buy that and then we'll donate the

01:18:54.960 rest to your charity or something like that.

01:18:57.900 That'd be awesome.

01:18:58.700 Maybe we'll do something like that.

01:18:59.280 Maybe we'll do that to him and maybe Shaub after he got knocked out or something.

01:19:03.080 Yeah.

01:19:05.480 Yeah, damn.

01:19:06.060 Shaub's going to hate hearing about that, but I agree with you 100%, bro.

01:19:10.100 That's what we'll do.

01:19:10.820 I don't know these guys.

01:19:11.580 Oh, dude, I would take his ass at fucking 240.

01:19:13.680 If he could get down to 240, I would take him.

01:19:15.620 I have to gain 60 pounds, but I could do it, bro.

01:19:17.980 I might have to meet these guys before we do it.

01:19:19.660 Maybe that's what we'll do.

01:19:20.260 I'll meet them and then we'll reveal them the next day.

01:19:21.960 There we go.

01:19:22.660 That would be it.

01:19:23.180 If we get it done, man, we'll have to get you over on Fighter and the Kid and you'll

01:19:26.080 have to touch base with them, man.

01:19:28.540 Obviously, man.

01:19:29.060 I had a good time.

01:19:29.900 Enjoy.

01:19:30.240 Good to see you.

01:19:31.000 Yeah, you too, man.

01:19:31.820 And thanks for, yeah, you took me out to the game last year, man.

01:19:33.960 It was a lot of fun.

01:19:35.060 I got to bring my friend Steve.

01:19:36.420 Dude, we had a blast.

01:19:37.140 We sat right behind Kershaw's family, actually.

01:19:38.900 Yeah.

01:19:39.360 Yeah.

01:19:39.660 Good people, too.

01:19:40.460 Yeah, it was.

01:19:41.080 It was nice over there.

01:19:42.760 Best of luck, man.

01:19:43.580 Thanks, man.

01:19:43.980 We'll see you later.

01:19:44.360 Now, I'm just floating on the breeze and I feel I'm falling like these leaves I must be.

01:19:50.960 Cornerstone

01:19:53.200 Oh, but when I reach that ground I'll share this peace of mind I found I can feel it in my bones

01:20:04.080 But it's gonna take a little time for me to set that parking brake and let myself unwind

01:20:16.360 Shine that light on me

01:20:20.360 I'll sit and tell you my stories

01:20:26.360 Shine on me

01:20:31.040 And I will find a song I will sing it just for you

01:20:38.360 And now I've been moving way too fast

01:20:46.220 On a runaway train with a heavy load of my hands

01:20:50.220 And these rails that I've been riding on

01:20:56.700 They're worn so thin that they're damn near gone

01:20:59.440 I guess now they just weren't built to live

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This Past Weekend with Theo Von - July 06, 2020

E285 Dodgers Pitcher Walker Buehler

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