This Past Weekend with Theo Von - E294 David Arquette

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00:00:15.520 Today's guest is the subject of a new documentary, which really is just kind of a scavenger hunt into this man

00:00:27.340 and his journey with wrestling and everything, addiction, life, everything, life, life.

00:00:34.940 Today's guest is Mr. David Arquette.

00:00:57.340 He came in recently and he just sent those over as a gift. It was pretty nice of him.

00:01:18.780 Hell yeah. I love your spot, dude. This is sick.

00:01:22.940 Look what somebody made on a 3D printer.

00:01:28.080 Oh, hell yes.

00:01:28.760 On a 3D printer, David.

00:01:30.140 That's so dope.

00:01:31.760 Pretty nice, huh?

00:01:32.700 That's badass, dude.

00:01:33.680 You have quite a collection of things that people have made for you. I saw in the documentary.

00:01:52.300 Yeah, I've got a bunch of collections. I've been collecting since I started making money at 17.

00:01:57.260 But just, isn't it funny when somebody makes something for it? Like, isn't it?

00:02:01.100 Yeah.

00:02:01.480 I almost feel like you can't show the appreciation that things really deserve sometimes.

00:02:06.520 Yeah, totally. Yeah, it's cool to, it's cool when somebody, I love art in general.

00:02:12.420 And when somebody puts their artistic ability to like do something with you involved, it's always dope.

00:02:18.480 It's like, I don't know, it's amazing. Especially when it's fans and all this stuff.

00:02:23.560 Yeah, it's crazy. You had a marionette somebody made, like a, you have the marionette.

00:02:28.860 I mean, just briefly in the documentary, you're able to see different little, they don't focus on it, but they had just little things.

00:02:36.160 You see a little doodad or a piece of art here.

00:02:38.280 Yeah, you really get led into my world.

00:02:42.080 So you see a lot of sort of my house and some of my stuff I collect.

00:02:46.480 Like, collect giant things, have a giant chair in it, a giant, like, tennis racket.

00:02:51.960 Oh, yeah.

00:02:52.640 Weird stuff like that.

00:02:54.580 Do you, sometimes I just started drinking Diet Coke.

00:02:57.560 Yeah.

00:02:58.440 I drink diet stuff too.

00:03:00.480 I feel like an old person when I drink it. Do you?

00:03:05.180 I guess so.

00:03:06.500 Yeah.

00:03:07.080 I mean, you know, it's better than all that sugar though.

00:03:10.280 There's these really great ones called the United States of Soda that just came out.

00:03:15.160 And I'm only saying it because I just fell in love with it.

00:03:17.520 It's just 30 grams of sugar, like, I'm not sure grams of sugar, but 30 calories total.

00:03:25.520 Oh, yeah?

00:03:26.060 So it's like just a little teeny, but it tastes good.

00:03:29.960 It's better than a LaCroix or whatever.

00:03:31.920 I like LaCroix, but.

00:03:33.060 And you could burn 30 calories.

00:03:34.640 You could bend over and pick something up and burn 30, you know, that's 15 calories right there.

00:03:38.240 Yeah.

00:03:38.580 I often ran into you at the gym before.

00:03:41.940 Yeah.

00:03:42.460 And now I got my mini Theo Vaughn working now.

00:03:45.760 Oh, you're coming in.

00:03:46.640 You do have a little bit of flair growing, huh?

00:03:48.940 Yeah.

00:03:49.540 Yeah.

00:03:50.380 You know, Flying Brian Pillman Jr.

00:03:53.660 Yeah.

00:03:54.240 Or Bulletproof Brian Pillman was really my inspiration.

00:03:58.020 Diamond Dallas Page had always had a great mullet.

00:04:01.260 Yeah.

00:04:02.200 Yeah, they got a lot of good mullets.

00:04:03.760 I'm trying to think of some they had back in.

00:04:05.100 They even had haircuts that were, who was some early mullet work that they had in wrestling?

00:04:12.880 Who was some early guys they had?

00:04:14.340 Diamond Dallas Page was definitely, and Flying Brian Pillman.

00:04:17.260 The Rockers, Marty Jannetty and old school Shawn Michaels.

00:04:21.300 Yeah.

00:04:21.620 And they had some wild haircuts.

00:04:23.740 I'm trying to think of, Hacksaw Jim Duggan made, his was just kind of, literally.

00:04:28.080 He's such a funny guy.

00:04:29.440 Yeah.

00:04:29.620 His wife, Debbie, is so nice.

00:04:31.480 Oh, you know her?

00:04:32.400 Yeah.

00:04:32.860 They were at Legends of Wrestling, the last match in the documentary.

00:04:38.360 Yeah.

00:04:38.600 They're really great people.

00:04:40.680 You meet these wrestlers, and a lot of the time, like Ric Flair is incredible, too.

00:04:45.120 But his wife, Wendy, is like the sort of boss behind all these guys.

00:04:49.540 You know what?

00:04:49.960 Like, my wife, Christina, is the boss behind me, and she's responsible for producing this

00:04:55.600 whole film and dealing with all the crap that came along with it.

00:05:00.300 Yeah.

00:05:00.620 So, oh, there he is right there.

00:05:02.880 Yeah.

00:05:03.540 Oh, yeah.

00:05:04.460 God, man.

00:05:05.440 He looked like he would use that board on, like, a standardized test, honestly.

00:05:09.600 It's so funny.

00:05:10.560 He walks around with the board still.

00:05:12.780 Really?

00:05:13.360 Yeah.

00:05:13.700 People get it signed and everything.

00:05:15.720 Oh, that's awesome, man.

00:05:16.740 Yeah.

00:05:17.140 His whole thing was amazing.

00:05:18.620 Yeah, man, that was a wonderful time.

00:05:20.680 That was a time when Big Boss Man, that's a time when I grew up in that, when you had

00:05:24.380 real, I don't know, I guess that's when I was a kid, too, so that's when I saw it.

00:05:29.660 You know, it was like headlights looking right at me of just excitement and staying up late

00:05:33.240 at night at 10.30 to see a Saturday night.

00:05:36.660 Sometimes on Saturday night, yeah, they would have a championship bout.

00:05:39.780 Yeah, yeah.

00:05:40.280 Well, it was all this, it was something they set up.

00:05:43.540 It was like these really weird matches, a Saturday night main event.

00:05:47.360 Yes.

00:05:47.720 And then it would just be like these quick, I don't think like any real belts were ever

00:05:52.480 exchanged.

00:05:53.360 It wasn't a typical kind of fight.

00:05:55.580 It was more like a spectator thing.

00:05:57.740 Yeah.

00:05:58.680 Yeah, it was wild, man.

00:05:59.880 I remember just so excited.

00:06:01.660 And sometimes I'd pass out because of the excitement.

00:06:03.900 I remember just waking up in the morning and didn't know what had happened and my brother

00:06:07.540 was gone.

00:06:08.660 Yeah, no internet back then.

00:06:10.300 You couldn't catch up.

00:06:11.480 No, you had to find a friend.

00:06:12.620 Your internet was the first friend you saw at the bus stop or whatever.

00:06:16.980 And you'd be like, what happened, Larry?

00:06:18.880 You'd be like, I got ground.

00:06:20.240 And you're like, this fucking internet sucks.

00:06:22.920 You're like, this dude is dial up, man.

00:06:24.520 I need a real friend who has facts.

00:06:27.360 Yeah.

00:06:27.580 That's what's also cool about wrestling.

00:06:29.700 It's like, I have a couple of friends, Brent Joseph and Curtis Reynolds, who have just been

00:06:34.820 my friends for years, but they're friends that love wrestling too.

00:06:38.380 So we all like, it's almost like those kids again, growing up, you can call up and talk

00:06:44.180 to them.

00:06:44.380 That's what I love about RJ City too, my tag team partner.

00:06:47.480 We can talk wrestling and he's wrestled half of these guys, so he can tell you stories

00:06:52.540 about hacks on Jim Dungan or Piper or whatever.

00:06:58.080 Good tales, yeah.

00:06:59.680 You know, the closest thing I've seen to wrestling in a while in real life is, Nick, do you have

00:07:03.520 that, bring up that park thing in Portland the other day, this antique, I don't know if

00:07:08.060 you saw this or not.

00:07:08.860 And this is, um, RJ, are you familiar with RJ City at all?

00:07:16.280 I'm not, I saw him.

00:07:17.520 He's hilarious.

00:07:18.560 He's really funny on Instagram.

00:07:20.640 Is he?

00:07:21.320 I mean, Twitter.

00:07:22.320 Yeah.

00:07:22.540 He's a real Twitter.

00:07:23.760 He's a real millennial.

00:07:25.640 I'll have to check him out.

00:07:26.760 This is Protesters in a Park, but this to me seemed like, I mean, look at this.

00:07:33.480 Yeah.

00:07:34.700 To me, I know like a lot of these people, like, you know, a lot of this is political stuff,

00:07:38.440 but a lot of it to me has a very, it starts to get a very wrestling type vibe.

00:07:42.800 Um, do you see any of that?

00:07:44.480 When you see some of these park battles these days, it seems like a lot of costuming.

00:07:49.700 You know what?

00:07:50.420 The best thing I've seen on the internet, it just came up this morning on Reddit.

00:07:54.640 It was otter gangs fighting each other in Singapore.

00:07:59.440 Yeah.

00:07:59.600 These gangs of otters are getting together and they're fighting each other in Singapore.

00:08:04.720 Oh, water animals.

00:08:05.940 You mean otters?

00:08:06.640 Yeah.

00:08:07.020 The otters?

00:08:08.880 That reminded me of wrestling.

00:08:11.000 Oh, let's see that.

00:08:11.660 Oh, look at this.

00:08:12.260 This is so fun.

00:08:14.120 Look at these otters.

00:08:15.380 Oh, hell yeah.

00:08:16.260 So they're like these otters that are just wild otters, but there's gangs of them and

00:08:21.220 they don't like the other gang.

00:08:22.860 Damn, really?

00:08:23.580 And they're having a rumble here.

00:08:26.920 These otters just, they're going at it.

00:08:30.400 Look at the small crew.

00:08:31.600 They're smaller than the big crew and they're going for it.

00:08:34.900 This is very BLM Royal Rumble style.

00:08:38.300 Oh my God.

00:08:40.560 Look at those guys that came in off the top rope.

00:08:42.060 You saw those guys.

00:08:42.520 I know.

00:08:43.280 They're really into it.

00:08:45.080 And do they know who these otters are?

00:08:46.880 Are they pets or that people brought?

00:08:48.400 Or these are just natural?

00:08:50.360 No, they like, I think they might have bred the otters for this lake, but then they broke

00:08:56.560 up into two different groups and then they don't like each other.

00:09:00.140 Man, it's kind of like Romeo and Juliet a little, but like Gangnam style.

00:09:04.960 Yeah.

00:09:05.420 And that's in Asia?

00:09:06.880 Singapore, yeah.

00:09:07.760 Wow.

00:09:08.280 West side story.

00:09:09.420 Oh, they will do that, dude.

00:09:11.560 They'll fight anything.

00:09:12.520 I wonder if Michael Vick's behind this.

00:09:13.820 I feel like that's insane, right?

00:09:15.660 That's crazy.

00:09:17.000 Dude, how crazy do you think if Michael Vick would have fought a cute animal against each

00:09:21.380 other?

00:09:21.600 I wonder if it would have been different.

00:09:23.660 Oh, man.

00:09:24.500 Like durable or, you know, like, I guess probably not because they had, it was, I think they

00:09:30.220 got upset because of like a lot of the deaths of the animals.

00:09:32.460 But anyway, um, so my friend's a cop who's in the documentary, Jerry in Connecticut.

00:09:38.720 He just sent me a video too of these two, uh, turkeys fighting, fighting for a girl.

00:09:44.760 That's something funny about animals fighting over a girl.

00:09:48.380 It was just so funny.

00:09:49.840 And I guess we do it.

00:09:51.280 Yeah.

00:09:51.400 I guess animals will get real territorial.

00:09:53.560 Yeah.

00:09:54.160 You know, did you ever get in a fight for a girl whenever you were younger?

00:09:58.140 You think?

00:09:58.720 Yeah, for sure.

00:09:59.780 I once got upset, I dated Alyssa Milano for a little while and I once got upset, she showed

00:10:05.040 up at this club we all go to, Roxbury, and she showed up with another dude and we were

00:10:10.520 just broken up and I was like, crushed.

00:10:14.120 Did you stay in the club?

00:10:15.820 No, I came outside, I kicked her car, unfortunately.

00:10:18.620 I apologized to her since.

00:10:21.160 She's, she's cool.

00:10:22.620 I was a real piece of work, but I just kicked us out of her car.

00:10:27.700 You gotta do that.

00:10:28.420 I was like, bad, but we didn't even really fight.

00:10:31.720 It was so pathetic.

00:10:33.140 Were you pretty heartbroken or not, you think?

00:10:35.680 Oh, yeah.

00:10:36.640 She was like one of my, like, first loves.

00:10:39.160 First loves?

00:10:39.980 I mean, yeah.

00:10:41.440 She's a wonderful girl.

00:10:42.960 Dude, you had a real nice smile, huh?

00:10:45.160 Yeah, I was.

00:10:45.660 That must be nice.

00:10:46.440 I was happy.

00:10:48.420 But were you all, I mean, you were pretty handsome.

00:10:50.580 I mean, you're still a handsome guy.

00:10:51.820 Oh, thank you.

00:10:52.620 But, I mean, this is a time in our lives when people really were.

00:10:56.280 I was just young.

00:10:57.380 I was young and in Hollywood for the first time.

00:11:01.000 Never really had pictures taken of me.

00:11:04.520 Wow.

00:11:05.000 Sort of.

00:11:06.520 I was a mess, though.

00:11:08.240 I'd once, like, confess my love.

00:11:09.740 I hope she doesn't mind me sharing all this, but I once confessed her love and I had taken

00:11:15.040 some pill and then we had some real sweet conversation and I'd forgotten all about it.

00:11:20.840 Oh, damn.

00:11:21.620 And she was so hurt.

00:11:23.020 I don't blame her.

00:11:24.280 I was a real, like, horrible boyfriend.

00:11:27.340 There was terrible things that happened.

00:11:29.700 Oh, we once went on this really beautiful trip.

00:11:32.140 Oh, I feel so, I mean, it's sort of silly stuff.

00:11:35.760 At least you're honest about being a bad boyfriend.

00:11:37.520 I was a really bad boyfriend.

00:11:38.600 Oh, man, we went on this trip and we were playing this mixtape and it was all these

00:11:44.500 beautiful love songs and then she popped it out and she saw some girls writing on it.

00:11:49.380 She was like, where'd you get this tape?

00:11:51.120 And I was like, oh, it's for my old girlfriend.

00:11:54.460 She's like, how dare you?

00:11:56.000 I didn't get it at the time.

00:11:57.780 I totally get it now.

00:11:59.420 Yeah.

00:12:01.000 Yeah, it's been a long road to figure out how to be a good man.

00:12:05.040 That's been something for me.

00:12:06.700 Oh, yeah.

00:12:07.340 I feel that, man.

00:12:09.240 I feel, dude, that's what this whole podcast is based on.

00:12:12.640 There you go.

00:12:14.120 Oh, dude, struggling men, bro.

00:12:17.180 Bro, you're a young guy.

00:12:18.560 You got a serious lady or?

00:12:21.820 No, I've never had a serious lady in my life, man.

00:12:23.560 No, no kidding?

00:12:24.360 I don't think so.

00:12:24.920 I mean, I have.

00:12:25.820 Yeah, yeah.

00:12:26.240 I've just never been in a relationship where I didn't lie or cheat, you know?

00:12:28.680 That's kind of really, I think, been my MO.

00:12:31.780 You know, kind of I've always, like, I think, like, dude, I remember having a, some girl

00:12:38.760 invited me to Colorado one time.

00:12:41.000 I go.

00:12:41.380 She takes me to a party.

00:12:42.540 I'm at the party.

00:12:44.220 Somehow, I end up getting her to play, like, a board game at a new tick a long time.

00:12:50.040 And then I met some, snuck off with some other girl and, like, professed my love to some girl

00:12:54.600 in this closet.

00:12:55.640 Yeah.

00:12:56.040 I don't know.

00:12:57.240 Everybody's feelings got hurt.

00:12:58.540 Yeah.

00:12:59.060 I hear you.

00:13:00.600 My first marriage, I was really faithful and everything.

00:13:05.040 And, you know, it's one way or another.

00:13:10.120 It all, I don't know.

00:13:11.660 There was a lot of stuff that happened.

00:13:15.520 I got my heart broken.

00:13:17.280 I don't know.

00:13:20.080 It's important to be faithful and, you know, true.

00:13:25.360 It's hard, though.

00:13:26.320 It is hard.

00:13:27.400 You know, especially when you have a broken heart and you got animosity and, like, for,

00:13:35.120 like, when you lose faith and love.

00:13:37.420 Yeah.

00:13:37.780 You know.

00:13:38.520 Sometimes I think I lost faith and love, like, before I even knew what love was, you know?

00:13:42.860 Yeah.

00:13:43.560 Totally.

00:13:44.960 Yeah, totally.

00:13:45.720 I mean, I'm still trying to figure out everything, marriage and family and all that stuff.

00:13:51.040 Well, you got a beautiful group over there.

00:13:52.720 You got that little fella, that high-fived in the documentary.

00:13:55.580 Yeah.

00:13:55.820 Charlie and Gus, those six and three.

00:13:58.140 I have an incredible wife, Christina, who's been amazing and really taught me a lot about

00:14:03.500 loving myself.

00:14:04.920 And, you know, that's really what it all comes down to.

00:14:08.040 Like, I'd been on this whole quest to, like, you know, find love and all this stuff.

00:14:12.780 And as cliche as it is that people say you have to love yourself before you can truly be loved

00:14:18.440 or, you know, experience love in that way.

00:14:22.380 And I did learn that through this whole thing, that it really is true.

00:14:27.440 Because sometimes you have all these things, at least I have all these feelings that I'm like, you know,

00:14:35.120 I don't know, does she love me or does, you know, certain things happen during the whole thing of this movie,

00:14:42.200 which were pretty intense.

00:14:43.620 It's just, to me, like, yeah, her being really upset with me, like, do you just want to die?

00:14:51.440 Like, is that what you want to do?

00:14:53.080 And I had to sort of come to terms with that.

00:14:54.940 Like, I don't want to die.

00:14:57.140 But I wasn't happy either.

00:14:59.060 So I had to figure out how to love myself, as crazy as that sounds.

00:15:04.820 What were some things you feel like?

00:15:06.420 Because, like, I mean, I go to, you know, I'm in recovery.

00:15:08.520 So I go to, like, stuff like that, you know.

00:15:10.080 That's good.

00:15:10.700 Yeah, that stuff helps.

00:15:11.720 So that stuff helps.

00:15:13.660 It's good to have, like, a group.

00:15:15.080 That kind of helps me.

00:15:16.280 Yeah, for sure.

00:15:17.500 It's hard for me to not be, like, I got, my biggest thing is just with my mom.

00:15:21.220 I go through moments where it's just, like, there's no point in, like, being upset anymore.

00:15:25.480 It's almost like my brain, like, like, sometimes I feel like she was mean to me when I was really little

00:15:29.980 before I even knew I was alive or anything, you know.

00:15:32.880 Right, totally.

00:15:33.520 I can't go back and fight those wars.

00:15:35.040 I don't even know if it really happened.

00:15:36.540 Right.

00:15:37.160 Sometimes I think I'm just extremely overly sensitive, you know.

00:15:41.020 Yeah.

00:15:41.300 Yeah, for sure.

00:15:42.880 And then you grow up in a world where it's like, you got to be tougher.

00:15:46.480 You got to be able to, you know, put a rear naked choke on somebody or something, you know,

00:15:50.200 like, you know, and then it gets scary.

00:15:53.080 And then now I'm a little older.

00:15:54.760 It's like, okay, at least I can try to figure out who I am a little bit and not be scared,

00:15:59.980 at least to do that.

00:16:01.080 Yeah.

00:16:01.360 For a while, I was scared to even kind of figure out what I was feeling or anything, you know.

00:16:05.020 Yeah, completely.

00:16:06.120 It gets interesting.

00:16:07.300 So, I watched the documentary last night.

00:16:10.120 I didn't watch the last 20 minutes because I didn't want to ask you about anything that would give it away.

00:16:15.340 So, it's a documentary.

00:16:20.020 It's a mockumentary.

00:16:21.000 There were parts where I didn't kind of know, like, it seems like a little bit of, I don't know.

00:16:26.160 You tell me.

00:16:26.840 It's a documentary.

00:16:28.060 Okay.

00:16:28.620 I didn't, like, they kind of set it up so I'd start from the bottom and go up.

00:16:33.740 But, like, even there's a death match in it.

00:16:35.780 That wasn't planned.

00:16:36.980 They weren't even supposed to be filming that night.

00:16:39.700 Something I set up.

00:16:40.700 I'm the one who also went on all the independent circuit.

00:16:43.380 The film crew didn't really follow me on all that.

00:16:46.720 I love that.

00:16:48.100 Yeah, it was really fun.

00:16:49.340 It was a real education.

00:16:52.500 Yeah, when you get to places, like, there's a moment in the documentary, you get to the places, and, uh, well, here's a question right here that came in from a young fellow for you.

00:16:59.580 Well, nice.

00:17:02.560 This is all real-time stuff?

00:17:04.200 No.

00:17:04.480 No, no, no, no.

00:17:04.980 None of this is real-time.

00:17:05.920 So, this is all will be edited later.

00:17:08.080 But these were sent, picked up this week.

00:17:10.500 This is for David Arquette.

00:17:12.980 Why in the goddamn fuck would you wrestle Nick Gage in a death match?

00:17:18.660 What's the point?

00:17:19.440 You could wrestle so many other indie stars, but why would you choose someone that is willing to stab you to death with a light tube?

00:17:29.440 Get back at me.

00:17:30.600 Good question.

00:17:32.460 Good question.

00:17:33.980 I should have asked myself that before I did it.

00:17:37.440 What happened was I was supposed to wrestle Joey Janela, who's an incredible wrestler, the spring before that.

00:17:43.220 But I couldn't because I got injured or I was doing a movie or something.

00:17:45.960 So, then they were doing another spring break the next year in Los Angeles, and the wrestler who was wrestling Nick Gage fell out.

00:17:57.020 And he said, do you want to wrestle Nick Gage?

00:17:58.900 And I didn't even really know who he was and didn't know much about, like, death matches.

00:18:04.120 I knew about hardcore matches.

00:18:07.660 I knew certain things, but I didn't know that there was – death matches are kind of frowned upon by some professional wrestlers because they call it garbage wrestling.

00:18:16.980 It kind of came from – I don't know if it came from backyard wrestling.

00:18:20.380 They have a whole world of it in Mexico.

00:18:23.560 Oh, yeah.

00:18:23.700 Tetna Shot Wrestling, we used to call it.

00:18:25.140 No kidding.

00:18:25.880 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:18:26.620 The Tetna Shot Circuit, yeah.

00:18:27.820 Yeah, I actually asked somebody before that because my wife was all concerned.

00:18:32.720 She's like –

00:18:33.620 Freaking wives, man.

00:18:34.700 Do you know if anyone has, like, you know, whatchamacallit?

00:18:40.420 First aid kit?

00:18:41.480 No, no.

00:18:42.160 Like, have been tested for, like, hepatitis or something?

00:18:46.260 And I was like, I don't know.

00:18:47.660 Do you ask somebody?

00:18:49.360 Hepatitis is a black wrestler that I know, actually.

00:18:52.100 That's probably one of the best wrestler names ever.

00:18:54.460 No kidding.

00:18:55.440 That's hilarious.

00:18:56.200 Yeah, so I didn't know, like, if I was supposed to ask.

00:18:59.660 I didn't know.

00:19:00.220 I was in over my head, you know.

00:19:02.680 It sounds like you've been over your head since you were born.

00:19:05.900 I have been.

00:19:07.180 I really am trying to figure this all out.

00:19:09.960 But I went on – I did a bunch of research on death matches and everything.

00:19:16.700 I still didn't know what I was getting into.

00:19:18.920 So, but to answer the question, I wanted to – that's a segment of wrestling that has a really strong fan base that really love wrestling.

00:19:28.200 And even though a lot of people frown on it, a lot of people love it.

00:19:33.980 So, it is something.

00:19:35.200 We wanted to do a backyard wrestling match.

00:19:37.440 We wanted to do, like, a hardcore match.

00:19:39.720 But it just didn't know how hardcore it was going to go.

00:19:43.720 And is that the one – that's not the one that I see in the documentary, though.

00:19:47.000 Yeah, that is.

00:19:47.780 Okay.

00:19:48.580 Because that really – yeah, that was definitely – you could see somebody's eating Fritos right by the ring.

00:19:54.420 That's real shit.

00:19:55.060 Yeah, it was real.

00:19:58.700 I was, like, getting spit on.

00:20:00.200 People hated me.

00:20:01.000 But the idea was, like, if I could win over this crowd, I could win over any wrestling fans.

00:20:07.460 Yeah, it seemed like it must have been pretty brave to wander.

00:20:09.700 First of all, it's scary going into somebody else's backyard.

00:20:12.320 That's always a scary thing.

00:20:13.720 Yeah, it was.

00:20:15.420 That was really, like, okay, let's do this.

00:20:19.080 I don't know.

00:20:20.300 I just – I don't know.

00:20:23.080 I equate this whole film, this whole experience to, like, almost cleaning out your garage or, like, any kind of task like that where it seems so big and insurmountable.

00:20:33.040 But then once you get in and you just work on one corner, then finally you'll clean up the whole place.

00:20:38.260 And that's sort of – you just have to keep going.

00:20:41.660 Like, in wrestling, if you hurt your neck, don't worry because next week your back's going to hurt way worse.

00:20:48.080 You know what I mean?

00:20:48.680 You'll keep trading these injuries all along the road.

00:20:51.540 It just never stops.

00:20:53.660 Yeah, it's almost like you're a voodoo doll, but you keep doing it to yourself in a weird way.

00:20:57.460 Yeah, that's true.

00:21:00.380 It's true.

00:21:01.120 I was thinking about doing a little video game of – because my son used to play this video game of a little voodoo doll.

00:21:06.880 And I wanted to do one of me where then you could get anything, try to blow me up or hurt me.

00:21:12.040 And I'd just come all back together.

00:21:14.420 You're like, you can't kill me.

00:21:15.640 You can't kill David Arquette.

00:21:16.700 Yeah, man.

00:21:17.200 That's crazy.

00:21:19.380 When you're doing the documentary – so at the beginning you talk about you won the WCW championship.

00:21:29.160 Yeah.

00:21:29.360 And at that time were you – like were you still like running real hot on the Hollywood stuff?

00:21:36.180 Were you wanting to try to do something different?

00:21:38.440 You also seem like kind of a loner that kind of likes to do their own thing in a way to me.

00:21:42.860 Was that part of it?

00:21:43.780 Like if you look back on like kind of learning about who you are based on some of your life path and the choices you make, are you able to like kind of see why you chose that?

00:21:54.960 Do you have any thoughts about that?

00:21:57.280 Yeah.

00:21:57.460 In the movie it like kind of sets it up like, you know, Scream kind of typecast me as a goofball and doing wrestling was kind of like bad for my career.

00:22:06.780 I don't really agree with that necessarily.

00:22:11.180 My wife kicked me out of the editing room at one point because I was like, no, you can't say that.

00:22:15.720 That's such a – you got to – because I say at one point I haven't, you know, gotten a job in 10 years.

00:22:22.100 Like who goes to –

00:22:23.420 Yeah, who goes to auditions over and over again that hasn't gotten a job in 10 years.

00:22:27.120 But what I say right after that is I haven't gotten a job from an audition in 10 years.

00:22:31.660 I've worked within that 10 years.

00:22:33.200 It's just, you know, people knowing me or just word of mouth or whatever.

00:22:38.380 So it's a little like confusing.

00:22:40.820 But, you know, I've always made these weird choices.

00:22:46.060 You know, I'm very public with stuff.

00:22:49.120 I called into Howard Stern and had a bunch of drunken conversations and did a bunch of AT&T commercials.

00:22:54.640 Those are probably the things that hurt my career more than anything, honestly, than the wrestling film or wrestling in general.

00:23:01.600 So I don't really agree with that.

00:23:04.040 But my career was at a weird place, ready to – you know, when you get up to a certain place where you're doing your own films, it's kind of like if this next one doesn't do great, then you kind of fall back down on this ladder of success.

00:23:18.800 But if you can parlay it and have your films continue to do good or just even make money, then it's – you know, you can kind of keep going with it.

00:23:28.560 It's funky.

00:23:29.540 But having any of those expectations, it's almost unrealistic.

00:23:33.100 A lot of it is out of your control.

00:23:35.520 Yeah, totally.

00:23:36.760 Unless you do it yourself.

00:23:38.060 And that's what I've sort of learned.

00:23:39.360 That's why we did this documentary.

00:23:40.680 It's kind of taking control of your life and your career and just your – what you want to put out there.

00:23:47.140 Yeah.

00:23:47.460 It's what you've done with this podcast.

00:23:49.640 It's that kind of attitude where you're like, fuck it.

00:23:52.580 I'm going to, you know, do what I want, structure it the way I want, you know.

00:23:57.700 And then that just builds on then you can do other things that you want, different projects start popping up.

00:24:03.120 And then you start spending your energy on your own stuff rather than waiting around for someone to, you know, stamp you cool or not.

00:24:10.880 Yeah.

00:24:11.200 So that's just not the way to go anymore.

00:24:13.000 And people can do it with their phones and learning editing on their phones or on a computer.

00:24:19.280 You know, it's wide open now because storytelling is getting better.

00:24:22.660 People are more aware of filmmaking and what it takes to tell a good story.

00:24:28.060 So you can read books on it.

00:24:29.620 You can look at YouTube videos to learn things about lighting.

00:24:33.580 Like there's all kinds of resources now.

00:24:35.720 Yeah.

00:24:36.480 You know, it's funny.

00:24:37.460 When I was watching it, one thing I started to realize was because I'd seen – we had just crossed paths at the gym a couple of times, you know.

00:24:44.860 And you were always playing – were you training in a racquetball?

00:24:47.960 What were you guys doing?

00:24:48.720 I was always just going.

00:24:50.000 I usually play basketball and then do some weights.

00:24:52.660 That's usually just what I do to get some cardio.

00:24:54.820 You were so sweaty.

00:24:55.340 I thought maybe –

00:24:55.880 I am a sweater.

00:24:57.100 Are you?

00:24:57.820 Yeah.

00:24:58.220 I sweat too much.

00:24:59.180 It's gross.

00:25:00.220 Dude, my legs, I'd get these – I shouldn't probably say this, but I'd get these – I used to get these erection pills from India, right?

00:25:07.580 Yeah.

00:25:08.060 And damn, they're my legs so sweaty, dude.

00:25:10.540 No kidding.

00:25:11.180 Yeah.

00:25:12.740 Why didn't you just get the legit ones?

00:25:15.680 They're too expensive and they just – they're too strong, man.

00:25:18.880 The Americans are too strong.

00:25:21.220 Oh, wow.

00:25:22.360 God, bro.

00:25:22.880 I couldn't even bend my arms.

00:25:23.960 I was like a damn gingerbread man trying to have sex.

00:25:26.380 Oh, no.

00:25:28.520 But these men, they would make my legs sweat so bad and mostly on the back of my legs.

00:25:32.820 Oh, man.

00:25:34.280 Oh.

00:25:35.060 So I'd have to keep my back and my body away from a woman during like any sort of like, you know, sensual engagement.

00:25:41.520 And damn, it just broke me, man.

00:25:44.400 It just – God.

00:25:46.240 But they were so cheap and they were – they would give you kind of an erection but a soft – like a manageable erection.

00:25:55.200 Manageable erection.

00:25:55.960 Because the stuff that he's selling farm, a big farm or that dick, that big farm is selling is too much, man.

00:26:00.920 No.

00:26:01.220 It's too heavy.

00:26:01.880 Yeah.

00:26:02.920 But what I was going to say was when I watched the documentary, one thing I started to do was that I did notice I liked the story and I liked the references to wrestling, you know, because I like wrestling myself.

00:26:12.660 But I started to care about you, though, as a person as I'm watching it, you know.

00:26:16.440 Oh, thanks.

00:26:17.020 I started to get invested in – okay, obviously, I know who David Arquette is but, you know, I just started to – the scene that really got me was the scene when you're doing the street fighting with the Mexican guys.

00:26:30.760 Oh, yeah, man.

00:26:32.140 That was amazing.

00:26:33.240 I didn't even know street like wrestling was a thing.

00:26:36.180 And it really put me on your – it put me on your side like in a – you know, I'm already on your team as I'm watching it, but it put me on your side as like in a – just in like a real human kind of way, I feel like.

00:26:48.560 Oh, cool.

00:26:49.900 So I know you're not asking about that, but I'm just trying to give you just how I felt about during the documentary.

00:26:55.320 Thank you.

00:26:56.440 Now, there's some wrestling – in our circuit, there's some, you know, there's some hot air balloons out there, and I want you to take a peek at this guy right here, Tom Shiguro.

00:27:05.020 Oh, yeah.

00:27:05.500 And he had this wrestling – this promo video that came out a while back, just about a month ago.

00:27:11.520 Wrestling fans have many names, comparing them to anti-vaxxers and flat earthers.

00:27:15.860 Yeah.

00:27:16.300 You've also said, quote, they have diminished capacity.

00:27:19.220 Yeah.

00:27:19.760 Could you explain what you meant by that exactly, and would you like to take this moment to apologize?

00:27:24.340 Oh, no.

00:27:25.420 I meant that they're stupid, they're poor, they're all beneath me.

00:27:30.180 Uh, you know, they're losers.

00:27:32.820 If they want to come, you know, maybe clean up my toilet or whatever, I could spit on them while they're doing it.

00:27:38.860 Give them a little taste of the mystique.

00:27:40.580 Hey, Rick, you're so strong, you could even withstand the ankle lock.

00:27:45.340 Oh, it's true.

00:27:46.660 It's damn true.

00:27:48.180 Mr. Rick, what about the wrestlers themselves?

00:27:50.620 Some of them have reached out to you saying they used to be fans of yours.

00:27:54.180 Now they've been hurt by your remarks.

00:27:56.400 How do you respond to that?

00:27:58.620 Mission accomplished.

00:27:59.880 Get it, Mr. Rick.

00:28:00.840 What's up, Solstice?

00:28:02.140 Oh, that was you.

00:28:02.960 This is my parrot, Solstice.

00:28:04.800 You know, we always enter the ring together.

00:28:06.840 Anybody wants to get the turkey slicer, come at me, man.

00:28:10.400 Mr. Rick, you are never down to the count.

00:28:12.940 You are the best there is, the best there was, and the best there ever will be.

00:28:16.080 Just keep those genes high and tight and know that you are the excellence of execution in everything you do.

00:28:21.460 Do you think you can do what they do?

00:28:24.160 Wrestlers?

00:28:25.260 Yeah.

00:28:26.280 It's fake.

00:28:27.560 Why can't I win a fake fight?

00:28:29.860 Sign me up.

00:28:30.840 Oh, man.

00:28:31.240 Let's rehearse, and I'll whoop your fake ass.

00:28:34.380 That's what burned me.

00:28:35.660 What?

00:28:36.320 That's what burned me, that part.

00:28:37.620 Oh, yeah.

00:28:38.260 Did you guys have it out?

00:28:40.500 Yeah, I went back at him, but that just, it's fake.

00:28:45.340 It's not fake.

00:28:47.220 It's choreographed.

00:28:47.400 It's organized, but it's not fake at all.

00:28:49.860 Once you get in the ring, you'd be surprised how not fake, how real it is.

00:28:55.100 And often, like, people kind of teach you a lesson once in a while.

00:28:59.380 Because you're bleeding in the documentary.

00:29:01.600 Yeah.

00:29:02.160 That was a death match, though.

00:29:03.500 But even the backyard match.

00:29:05.320 But you almost, there's always something.

00:29:08.240 It just hurts to take those bumps.

00:29:10.100 And I had three fractured ribs when I had to wrestle RJ City and a bunch of stuff.

00:29:14.580 Oh, man.

00:29:15.260 It's a good look with you as a wrestler.

00:29:17.840 Oh, I came back at him.

00:29:18.700 This is me coming back at Mystic, and I went more old school style.

00:29:22.000 Oh, yeah.

00:29:22.740 Gianni here, waiting for the Rack King to do.

00:29:24.320 I mean, obviously, it's got no respect for the business that Tom Segura...

00:29:27.700 Rack King.

00:29:28.260 A lot of smack being thrown around by Mystic Rick saying wrestling is fake.

00:29:31.220 What are your thoughts on that?

00:29:33.400 Oh, smack.

00:29:34.200 Was it fake when I nabbed the gab out of that little Russia hunter, Mr. Michael Rappapurra?

00:29:43.820 Was it fake when I broke the spirit of that little Norwegian smut mannequin, Mr. Crystal?

00:29:52.220 Was that fake, Rick?

00:29:53.900 Was it fake when I put the dirty unagi on little Bobby Miyagi?

00:30:03.120 Was that fake, Ricky?

00:30:07.140 The only thing not real here is you, brother.

00:30:11.560 Yeah.

00:30:12.160 You little diet denier, starch addict, gout candidate.

00:30:17.160 I bet you can't even skateboard.

00:30:19.380 That was impersonal.

00:30:20.540 Rick had some choice words for the fan.

00:30:22.160 I had to get him, man.

00:30:23.040 I had to go get him, man.

00:30:24.600 So I came right back at him because that's the part that hit me.

00:30:27.640 I think there's a certain element of people out there that don't understand when they call

00:30:33.440 it fake, how it hits some people.

00:30:36.760 Yeah.

00:30:38.020 That's for sure.

00:30:38.820 Where does that hit you when they call it fake?

00:30:41.060 Oh, man.

00:30:42.560 You just don't understand how real it is until you get in there.

00:30:46.260 It really is.

00:30:47.140 It's getting crazier and crazier.

00:30:50.040 There's a real beauty.

00:30:51.620 Like, I wrestled Colt Cabana.

00:30:53.640 It was one of my favorite matches.

00:30:55.380 And Ethan Page, these guys are super pro.

00:30:58.080 So even though they're making it real, it still isn't as painful as some of those other

00:31:04.740 lessons people teach you.

00:31:06.580 You think you could beat the fat guy that was in the beginning of this?

00:31:09.000 It's a girl?

00:31:09.480 Yeah.

00:31:10.220 Come on.

00:31:10.760 You think he has what it takes?

00:31:13.100 Actually, once he gets into the ring, do you think he could?

00:31:16.000 I mean, has he trained properly?

00:31:17.500 That's the thing.

00:31:18.360 Like, whenever you wrestle anyone.

00:31:20.700 We go on a very short limb and say, no, he is not.

00:31:23.960 Well, then it's just, it's kind of like something you usually shouldn't do.

00:31:28.100 Like, unless somebody's really training.

00:31:30.340 Because every wrestling match is as good as the most experienced person in there, you

00:31:37.200 know, or the most, you know, like the most trained, you know, they don't have to have

00:31:43.120 the most experience.

00:31:44.020 But someone who really gets it can make you look good.

00:31:46.660 One of my best matches was with Jack Perry and Jungle Boy at AEW.

00:31:51.060 And he's just so talented that he made me look like I could do things that nobody had

00:31:57.100 ever.

00:31:58.480 I'd never tried before a Canadian Destroyer.

00:32:00.980 And the only reason it works so well is because he's so great at it.

00:32:04.800 I mean, it's certain things you're not really supposed to talk about or whatever, but.

00:32:08.600 Right.

00:32:09.280 But he's a super talented wrestler.

00:32:11.340 That's Luke Perry's son.

00:32:13.220 Oh, is it really?

00:32:14.020 Yeah.

00:32:14.620 God dang.

00:32:15.240 He's damn beautiful, dude.

00:32:16.380 Yeah, he's great.

00:32:17.140 He's a movie star, this kid.

00:32:18.520 He's never smoked, never drank.

00:32:20.520 Like, he's got a great head on his shoulder.

00:32:22.360 He's tough as nails.

00:32:23.620 He's better looking than about easily 60% of the women I've dated.

00:32:28.600 Easily, bro.

00:32:29.520 He's a great looking guy.

00:32:30.700 Even the guy above him right there.

00:32:32.840 Yeah, Luchasaurus.

00:32:34.420 He's an amazing wrestler.

00:32:35.880 Wow.

00:32:36.400 He's good, you know, I don't know, 6'8", 6'10".

00:32:39.740 So you really have a love for this whole world.

00:32:41.820 I guess that's something when I get, as I'm going through You Cannot Kill David Arquette,

00:32:46.980 that I'm like, okay, is this love, is this a real passion that he has for this?

00:32:52.460 Yeah, I love wrestling.

00:32:53.520 I've always loved wrestling.

00:32:54.940 Just sort of, I've always loved it as a fan.

00:32:57.660 Yeah.

00:32:57.900 Just kind of like, and then when the championship thing came, I was promoting Ready to Rumble.

00:33:03.760 They said, well, put the belt on you if you can stay till the next pay-per-view.

00:33:09.140 I thought it was a terrible idea, but Diamond Diamond Page broke it down.

00:33:13.400 He's like, listen, well, you don't have to do it.

00:33:15.200 If you don't do it, then the promotion to Ready to Rumble's over.

00:33:19.120 The whole Ready to Rumble thing's over.

00:33:20.940 You won't be wrestling with us.

00:33:22.660 But if you do, you'll stay with us.

00:33:24.420 You'll travel with us.

00:33:25.300 You'll go, you know, do a pay-per-view.

00:33:28.080 And that's kind of what I really wanted.

00:33:29.520 I thought it would be really fun.

00:33:30.660 And I thought it would be taken more as a funny storyline rather than something so serious that kind of devalued the belt, which I understand now.

00:33:39.720 What was more, what do you feel like was more devaluing?

00:33:42.380 The fans that were saying this is, you know, using a guy from Hollywood, if you will, or critics that were saying this is not what somebody like David Arquette should be doing.

00:33:59.360 Yeah, I mean, I think part of it was I was an actor.

00:34:02.420 I was smaller than most of the wrestlers back in that time period.

00:34:06.780 Since then, you've had smaller champions like Daniel Bryan and Mike Mizanin.

00:34:12.840 Yeah.

00:34:14.400 I forgot.

00:34:16.780 Seth Rollins, sort of some guys.

00:34:19.720 Ray Mysterio is like kind of the first small guy.

00:34:21.420 Yeah, Ray Mysterio, yeah.

00:34:22.860 Hell, Henry Rollins could win a belt, I think, if you gave him.

00:34:25.420 He's pretty tough.

00:34:26.280 I was a tough guy.

00:34:27.160 But, yeah, I don't know.

00:34:30.400 It was just sort of that I was an actor and I wasn't trained and they just didn't accept it as like this funny thing.

00:34:38.620 And then guys like Booker T had never been the champion or Scott Steiner.

00:34:42.380 So I asked Booker T in the locker room, I said, how many times have you been the champ, Booker?

00:34:47.880 And he's like, never.

00:34:48.940 So I was like, oh, shit.

00:34:49.920 So then when I went out next, I went off script and I said, I don't deserve to be the champ.

00:34:54.660 Booker T deserves to be champ.

00:34:56.420 And he was the champ.

00:34:57.880 A few, like two, you know, the belt went to Jeff Jarrett and then I think it went to Booker after that.

00:35:04.600 So not that I had anything to do with it.

00:35:06.440 But it's good to plant those seeds.

00:35:08.780 Yeah.

00:35:08.920 Did you – so did it get weird?

00:35:12.380 Because then after you get the strap, did you start to feel ashamed of having it?

00:35:16.340 Or are you like, holy shit, you go from excitement to then all of a sudden I still have this thing and I have to get rid of it?

00:35:22.460 You have to carry it.

00:35:22.620 You have to carry it from everywhere, through airports, every day.

00:35:26.760 You can't lose it or leave it in your car.

00:35:28.980 You can't leave it in your hotel room.

00:35:30.500 Like a baby in Georgia.

00:35:31.860 Yeah, you have to carry it everywhere.

00:35:33.080 They're heavy.

00:35:33.660 You're responsible for it.

00:35:34.920 And they're heavy.

00:35:35.780 And they're heavy.

00:35:37.180 Yeah, and I just didn't know what the heck I was really doing.

00:35:40.500 Nobody told me, like, really how to wrestle, how to do anything.

00:35:43.980 Like, I'd just show up and they'd say, okay, you could – sometimes they'd hand you, like, literally pages of dialogue.

00:35:50.120 Like, I'm supposed to memorize this?

00:35:52.300 Like, this is more – it's way harder than people think, like, cutting a promo, all that kind of stuff.

00:35:57.840 And a lot of it has to do with the thing people say that it's not real or something.

00:36:03.280 Right.

00:36:03.380 Because when people cut good promos, they're real.

00:36:07.100 Like, you have to find a place inside yourself that you feel this.

00:36:11.160 You can convey that.

00:36:12.920 You're angry at this person.

00:36:14.500 And you do the things that you do in an acting set where you're, like, when you have to do something emotional,

00:36:20.360 where you kind of go through in your head all of these really painful times in your lives.

00:36:26.240 And you get to a place where those emotions are, like, kind of right there.

00:36:30.360 And you have to do that with wrestling, too.

00:36:32.480 You know, you have to make wrestling real for you, for what you're doing, for what you're conveying.

00:36:38.300 Like, that's where wrestling is entirely real.

00:36:41.460 And then there's the level of, like, people's personal lives, what's going on, how they feel about you, or how they feel about their own lives.

00:36:49.780 I mean, a lot of people are – when you're real pro, you can separate stuff like that.

00:36:53.900 But some people coming up don't – some people get overly excited, you know.

00:37:01.000 And then me being a beginner, it's mostly me that's getting, like, you know, ahead of things or, like, you know, not –

00:37:08.560 you know, you've learned in wrestling to really slow down time.

00:37:12.640 Just kind of, like, you know, allow moments to happen and, like, get hit and, like, really react to it.

00:37:21.380 And then look at a, you know, a fan and just make a connection right there.

00:37:26.880 It's like, he's not going to do this to me.

00:37:29.080 You know, you just make it real, and then it becomes real.

00:37:32.220 And when you can make wrestling really feel and you – the audience, you can capture them.

00:37:37.620 And then they're like, like, while the match is going, like, oh, he almost made it.

00:37:43.020 And then you got him on the hook, you know.

00:37:45.280 And then you just have to kind of reel him in.

00:37:47.000 And the best way to reel him in is, like, do a few, like, things that they either don't see coming

00:37:52.480 or a quick turnaround.

00:37:54.080 And then, boom, you know, some big thing that makes them cheer.

00:37:58.060 And then, you know, you either get them to, like, the three-count or you kick out.

00:38:05.280 Yeah.

00:38:05.640 But you should always end on sort of your biggest pop of the performance.

00:38:11.140 It sounded like he was describing stand-up.

00:38:12.840 No shit.

00:38:14.160 I think there's a lot of stuff, like –

00:38:17.600 I'm sorry.

00:38:18.140 Yeah, no, it's fine.

00:38:19.000 That was it.

00:38:20.240 That's a really good point.

00:38:21.180 I was trying to think of some – of a correlation, and oddly, I couldn't even think of that.

00:38:25.200 Yeah.

00:38:25.640 But, yeah, I guess – and you're taking me back now, too, also, to just being a fan.

00:38:29.700 I remember, man, when that guy would crawl over and get on top of the other guy.

00:38:34.820 And finally, it's like good is going to beat evil, and everything is going to be okay in the world.

00:38:40.000 And then you're like, this ref has, like, a rotator cuff injury, and he can barely get his arm to go down.

00:38:45.920 And he gets stalled at the top, and some other ref has to come in and push his arm down.

00:38:50.640 I know.

00:38:51.180 But it's just like life.

00:38:52.320 It's like things just sometimes get so close, and then there's just these chops and these ups and downs.

00:38:57.580 And, oh, man.

00:38:59.460 Yeah.

00:39:00.480 That's when it's beautiful.

00:39:02.120 God.

00:39:02.800 That's not fake, man.

00:39:03.980 Yeah, and when you typically work with veterans, they know how to construct matches where it's like – half the time, I didn't even know, like, what was going on?

00:39:11.940 Like, why are they putting that here?

00:39:13.140 I don't understand.

00:39:14.120 Why would I – but then you see it all together, and you start figuring out.

00:39:18.580 And then once you get used to it, then you can relax into stuff, and you know certain things are coming, certain parts of the match, you know, the heat and all the sort of stuff that comes, how you construct a match.

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00:42:36.060 What is that neck?

00:42:37.240 The leg twist, that neck.

00:42:39.120 What is that move?

00:42:39.720 Is that your finishing move?

00:42:41.020 Oh, the hurricarana.

00:42:43.540 Yeah, it's a leg.

00:42:45.060 I don't know.

00:42:46.020 It's called a hurricarana.

00:42:47.920 Some people call it.

00:42:49.200 But yeah, that's one of my moves.

00:42:51.080 That's a move that goes into a lot of stuff.

00:42:52.960 If it's a Frankensteiner, if you're on the corner of the top rope, or there's a lot of

00:43:00.720 different moves go into it.

00:43:02.140 But my finishing move's a diamond cutter, like Diamond Dallas Page.

00:43:07.420 Now, because people wouldn't say that ballet is fake.

00:43:11.180 People wouldn't say that a move...

00:43:14.040 I mean, I guess, yeah, there's just, there's almost a Greek art to it or something.

00:43:19.220 Absolutely, there is.

00:43:20.720 It really is good against evil.

00:43:22.860 I mean, that's what's happening, like, in the world right now.

00:43:25.140 It really is becoming a wrestling match.

00:43:27.600 Oh.

00:43:28.140 You know, we've got heels and faces, good guys and bad guys.

00:43:31.120 Everybody.

00:43:31.840 I mean, everything has turned...

00:43:33.580 We've been saying this for years, that it's all turning into the WWE.

00:43:36.720 Yeah.

00:43:36.960 Everybody's cutting promos.

00:43:38.760 It's just like, what is going on?

00:43:41.040 I know, it's crazy.

00:43:42.600 Everybody's cutting promos.

00:43:43.760 Everybody's driving for Uber.

00:43:45.420 It's just getting insane.

00:43:47.520 I know.

00:43:48.840 Remember, like, when politicians, they used to be, like, in a place somewhere, like, debating

00:43:52.980 against each other?

00:43:53.940 Now, they're all just cutting promos on fucking Twitter.

00:43:57.140 I know.

00:43:57.940 The whole views on Twitter thing is just crazy.

00:44:00.860 And, like, everyone in politics and everything are just a bunch of wrestlers going nuts.

00:44:09.900 It's everything, man.

00:44:10.820 I remember one of the most beautiful things I ever saw, though.

00:44:12.700 I was at the wrestling, and they had a Mexican gentleman, a man.

00:44:18.280 I think he was a man.

00:44:19.140 Him and his son were the same exact height.

00:44:21.200 So, who knows how old either one of them was, you know?

00:44:23.600 But they were both wearing a championship belt.

00:44:28.280 And when The Rock came back, it was the night that The Rock came back.

00:44:30.860 This was about eight years ago, I think, or maybe.

00:44:33.200 Wow.

00:44:33.880 And when he came back, they both started bawling, crying together.

00:44:39.220 Like, just standing there.

00:44:40.540 I love that.

00:44:41.100 And it was just, man, it was.

00:44:42.640 That's real.

00:44:43.300 The night was great, but that was probably the best thing that I saw.

00:44:46.060 Yeah.

00:44:46.480 I love that.

00:44:47.520 That's the best part.

00:44:49.260 Just that humanity.

00:44:50.480 Yeah.

00:44:50.760 And the love for it.

00:44:51.780 And it's because he took his son, but his dad probably took him.

00:44:57.660 And then, you know, his dad probably took his father.

00:45:02.220 You know, that's what it is.

00:45:03.420 It's like some of these moments are just part of our history.

00:45:08.740 Yeah.

00:45:09.420 That's what upset me so much.

00:45:11.040 Like, I love wrestling.

00:45:12.100 I didn't want to be excluded from it or go with my wife and then have people, like, yelling at me.

00:45:17.500 I was just sick of it.

00:45:21.100 So, I wanted to do something about it.

00:45:23.200 It's sort of also, like, everybody's got that feeling of, like, something they dream of doing.

00:45:28.260 You know, we all wanted to tap into all that.

00:45:31.060 Like, you know, not letting people bully you.

00:45:33.880 Like, you know, going after your dreams.

00:45:36.440 Like, never giving up.

00:45:37.720 Like, giving something everything you got.

00:45:40.260 And we didn't know where it would go.

00:45:41.920 If it would, you know, if it would go to one of the bigger places or something.

00:45:48.280 But it worked out that it was this perfect kind of full circle moment.

00:45:53.020 You mean this documentary?

00:45:54.080 Yeah.

00:45:54.540 With the Nasty Boys just kind of, like, getting my back and accepting me as one of the guys.

00:46:01.380 Yeah.

00:46:02.300 Yeah, because it's interesting because I didn't even know today whenever we were coming in here.

00:46:06.820 I didn't know.

00:46:08.400 I didn't know if I should ask you in advance, like, how serious is this?

00:46:11.920 Is this, like, you know, just a, I don't want to say a spoof.

00:46:17.700 But, no, it definitely gives it more depth to me knowing how you feel about it, you know?

00:46:24.140 Yeah.

00:46:24.560 And also, one thing that's really cool is that you've gotten to be a Hollywood star.

00:46:29.920 I mean, you've gotten to, the fruits of that stardom are really, I mean, it's sketchy.

00:46:37.420 Like, and I don't even know if there's that big, if there's that big of stardom these days.

00:46:42.200 There's a few people, but the idea of, like, stardom forever is very hard to have, I feel like.

00:46:53.040 Yeah.

00:46:53.480 Yeah, yeah.

00:46:54.440 Like, at a level of, like, you know, sometimes we think about it.

00:46:57.940 Those top guys.

00:46:58.500 Yeah.

00:46:58.820 I mean, there's, like, eight or ten guys, you know, it's so.

00:47:01.800 They're really selective.

00:47:02.940 I mean, they have the, not the luxury, but they have the patience to be, like, able and just have it in themselves to really wait for the right project.

00:47:13.020 You know, get the right directors and producers attached, make sure that that's the character that they want to play.

00:47:20.020 But they also have the luxury of maybe not working for a year or two.

00:47:23.240 Right.

00:47:23.500 Like, I always, I grew up with a father who was a working character actor who, so I think it, like, got into me that it's, like, I'm a working actor.

00:47:33.720 Like, I need to work.

00:47:35.040 So.

00:47:35.120 Yeah.

00:47:35.580 I'll do things that, you know, you know, on paper people say, like, why are you doing this kid's show, you know, just for, for whatever reason.

00:47:44.520 But it's, it's all directly connected to just working, having a job, going and doing work, like, I'm not comfortable sitting around all the time.

00:47:54.420 Yeah.

00:47:54.840 I think you have to give up, but you also, it feels like you have to give up some of, you have to give up some of what you want in Hollywood.

00:48:03.820 It seems like at certain points, you know, like, like I got offered some things in the past year and there was this animated project I got offered to be on this show called Hoops that just came out on Netflix.

00:48:14.520 And it just didn't, I kind of wanted to do my own animation thing and I didn't, and I just wasn't sure.

00:48:22.000 And so, you know, I had to say that it wasn't for me, even though it would have been probably fun and neat.

00:48:27.520 And I had to see it come out and be a little disappointed.

00:48:30.300 But then I also just had to remember myself because I'll just immediately start feeling bad.

00:48:34.900 Like, oh man, I wasn't in it.

00:48:36.580 And, but I don't, my brain doesn't want to remember nine months ago when I was like, I just don't think I tried to make a choice for myself, you know.

00:48:43.900 So it's hard to do those choices.

00:48:45.700 It's hard, man.

00:48:46.340 I've done them like to my detriment a few times, like not wanting to do something that turned out to be really great and really great group of people doing it.

00:48:58.420 Sorry, I'm burping over here.

00:49:00.060 It's okay.

00:49:01.340 These mics don't pick that up.

00:49:03.020 But that's diet soda, man.

00:49:04.680 I remember when I would see people drink diet sodas when I was young.

00:49:06.900 I thought they were old.

00:49:07.800 That's what starts to scare me, dude.

00:49:09.220 I don't know, man.

00:49:10.720 I'm much older than you.

00:49:12.060 So it's like, it's really funny when you start looking back.

00:49:15.600 It's real, like real.

00:49:17.620 It's real.

00:49:18.460 Yeah.

00:49:19.560 How crazy is it?

00:49:20.680 How much older you get once you hit like 39 or 40?

00:49:24.360 Yeah.

00:49:25.020 There's that 39 to 40.

00:49:28.800 39 to 50 is like a whole thing.

00:49:32.100 There are really cool things that happen too.

00:49:34.300 You start like not caring nearly as much about stuff.

00:49:37.940 Oh, that's nice.

00:49:38.960 Yeah.

00:49:39.260 And it's really nice.

00:49:40.360 Not getting like, you start realizing where your anger comes from.

00:49:44.640 It's like, oh, you start feeling, you can control it more.

00:49:48.040 Uh-huh.

00:49:48.880 And it's not like crippling like sometimes it feels like.

00:49:53.520 Oh, yeah, man.

00:49:55.120 I would like to have that less stress.

00:49:56.520 Dude, I used to get, especially over women, bro.

00:49:58.580 Here's the crazy thing.

00:49:59.500 If you want to date a girl now and say she's younger than you, it's so hard because you can't talk about any music.

00:50:05.600 Oh, yeah.

00:50:06.020 You say like, oh, do you listen to it?

00:50:07.580 And the second you get halfway through that sentence, you're like, fuck.

00:50:09.860 If I name a band that is like 15 years old right now, I'm going to sound so fucking old.

00:50:15.520 I know.

00:50:16.860 I don't know.

00:50:17.420 That whole world is just a little strange.

00:50:19.620 You like the black crows and you're like, oh, I don't, you know, I don't know.

00:50:24.040 Like, what, are they at the San Diego Zoo?

00:50:25.760 And you're like, damn, I don't know.

00:50:29.120 She's like, are they endangered?

00:50:30.500 It's just, it's so sketchy, bro.

00:50:32.600 Trying to like, trying to keep up with the Joneses of youth is impossible.

00:50:37.080 Yeah, it is.

00:50:39.080 It gets real sketchy.

00:50:40.100 And it also is like, I don't know.

00:50:42.240 You can meet the right people, but, you know, it's a lot of the time just pretty empty feeling.

00:50:48.040 You know what I equate a lot of that stuff to?

00:50:50.300 It's funny.

00:50:51.000 Everyone's doing Zooms now.

00:50:52.940 And at the end of a Zoom call, it's always like, oh, let's get to leave the meeting.

00:50:56.840 It's always like, it's almost like you're done fucking.

00:51:00.740 You're like, oh, this feeling of like, here's my real face.

00:51:08.220 That's a good point.

00:51:09.320 Here's my real face.

00:51:12.000 And no one can ever find it.

00:51:13.840 It's like, all right, I love you.

00:51:15.980 And then it's just.

00:51:17.840 I have those moments.

00:51:19.100 I've learned how to sit in them a little more, the uncomfortable moments.

00:51:22.620 I did a show called Carter, but it came out apparently with Jerry O'Connell, who's a really amazing.

00:51:30.000 Oh, I love Jerry, man.

00:51:30.980 Yeah, he's funny.

00:51:31.480 He's so talented.

00:51:32.680 Dude, he's hilarious.

00:51:33.780 He has the best stories, bro.

00:51:35.120 He has the best stories.

00:51:36.380 He's just such a funny guy.

00:51:38.080 So we're sitting.

00:51:38.900 We had a blast.

00:51:39.900 We were just joking the whole time.

00:51:41.780 But I went up to Canada to do his show, Carter.

00:51:43.980 And then he was like, something happened on the set and people were getting a little upset.

00:51:49.960 And he's like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:51:51.580 I was like, I looked at him.

00:51:53.000 I was like, what's up?

00:51:53.660 He's like, I think they're getting in a little argument or something.

00:51:56.680 I was like, yeah, they're in an argument.

00:51:58.960 Why are you getting all jacked up about it?

00:52:01.740 And he just loved the fact that there was conflict.

00:52:04.300 And I was like, oh, wow, that's such an interesting response.

00:52:09.140 Because my past response, just from being a kid from a chaotic childhood or whatever,

00:52:15.300 I'd get super, I don't know, embarrassed or something.

00:52:20.520 Or I'd be all feeling like, oh, why are they fighting?

00:52:26.020 That whole thing.

00:52:27.260 And it's such a kid response to it.

00:52:29.740 Yeah.

00:52:30.080 And now when you're able to kind of like not take it personally or it doesn't involve you

00:52:35.480 and you're having a conflict, you don't have to solve it.

00:52:41.400 Yeah.

00:52:41.620 And he can kind of sit back and I can see how he, I don't know if I could ever enjoy it,

00:52:46.160 but I could see how he could be relaxed about it.

00:52:48.860 Jerry's making, he's eating popcorn as you look over.

00:52:51.240 He's fucking loving it.

00:52:52.620 Dude, he's so talented, man.

00:52:54.720 And he has this story about growing up in, he grew up in New York during the AIDS epidemic

00:53:01.020 or pandemic.

00:53:02.200 And he has this wild story about how half of the people in his building when he was a

00:53:06.900 kid died.

00:53:08.580 And just how like every couple of weeks he'd come home and another neighbor would have

00:53:12.600 died.

00:53:13.000 And just, man, it's just fascinating.

00:53:15.720 And he's such a gripping when you, you know why he's a good actor.

00:53:18.920 Because when you were talking to him, it is like you are in just an elevator into like

00:53:24.560 another, like an elevator that goes forward right into his damn soul.

00:53:29.540 He's one of a kind.

00:53:30.660 Dude, that's fun, man.

00:53:31.980 Yeah.

00:53:32.120 When I was, yeah, there he is right there with a guy with Brendan Shaw right there.

00:53:36.160 And he's a guy.

00:53:39.220 But, dude, it's so funny when I was young, I used to feel so much like I'm responsible

00:53:44.420 for everything.

00:53:45.240 Like no matter, like I would feel so much shame.

00:53:47.560 Like I would feel so ashamed of everything that happened.

00:53:50.360 Like if like one of my family members did something and they was off or something, I

00:53:54.140 would feel like it always like reflected on me.

00:53:56.040 Like every, I was just ashamed of everything.

00:53:58.540 I know.

00:53:59.360 That's a.

00:53:59.860 It sucks.

00:54:00.760 Yeah.

00:54:01.140 It super sucks.

00:54:02.120 I used to have this thing where I like discovered I was kind of a shame addict.

00:54:09.000 I was like addicted to the feeling of like putting myself in a position where it was like

00:54:14.560 either shameful or like, and I didn't want to, but I kept putting, like calling into Howard

00:54:20.080 Stern and then having to like apologize to be, or even maybe like what I just did with

00:54:24.700 talking about Alyssa or whatever, just not meaning to, but it might be something in me

00:54:30.300 that.

00:54:30.520 Like, why do I talk about somebody else?

00:54:32.700 You know what I mean?

00:54:33.240 Right.

00:54:33.380 I don't know what it is.

00:54:34.520 Is she going to get mad?

00:54:35.500 I don't know.

00:54:36.160 Not that I did it for any reason, but I don't know why my brain would do it sometimes.

00:54:40.820 Right.

00:54:41.300 Where I get into this thing just to be humiliated or something, which is a terrible thing to

00:54:46.680 do.

00:54:47.060 It's like really painful place to be.

00:54:51.040 But dude, sometimes it's so funny.

00:54:52.400 I would love like, uh, I remember one time inviting, I had two girlfriends, right?

00:54:57.380 And a huge rarity in my life.

00:54:59.960 And I invited them both to a bar, right?

00:55:03.060 Oh gosh.

00:55:03.460 And I knew it was going to make me feel, I, some people would think, oh, this is going

00:55:08.140 to be fun.

00:55:08.640 Cat fight.

00:55:09.220 These girls are going to go at it.

00:55:10.220 I just knew in hindsight, looking back, I'm going to feel so fucking bad because I care

00:55:17.020 about both these girls.

00:55:17.780 Both of them care about me and everybody's going to get their heart broken right now.

00:55:21.560 And I was just like, let's do it.

00:55:23.780 Wow.

00:55:24.820 Yeah.

00:55:25.380 I know that feeling.

00:55:26.420 But looking back, like, yeah, it's like, man, yeah, I wonder if there's ways where my

00:55:31.540 brain leads me into places to really feel not great about stuff, you know, without, just

00:55:38.280 because of old patterns.

00:55:39.860 Yeah.

00:55:40.160 I do things to blow shit up a lot.

00:55:42.620 Like that thing sounds kind of like that, where you do something like with a specific intention

00:55:49.300 of just blowing all the fucking shit.

00:55:52.340 Just to like, fuck it, you know, go punk rock.

00:55:55.980 There's always been a little bit of a punk rock vibe.

00:55:58.480 I do that with work sometimes, man, even work stuff.

00:56:01.040 Yeah.

00:56:01.520 You know, like, cause I've found in the past two years, like I like to, I don't, I really

00:56:05.640 didn't like in some ways working with others in some ways I didn't realize it.

00:56:08.960 Yeah.

00:56:09.120 I've just always kind of done things by myself.

00:56:10.860 And so I didn't realize until we had to start to work with others a little more that I have

00:56:14.860 to, I don't know.

00:56:16.760 It's not a reflection of me.

00:56:17.740 It's just a group thing.

00:56:18.820 And, but man, I would, I had such a, just a visceral reaction to it, man.

00:56:24.780 Yeah.

00:56:24.960 And so I would, you know, I'd always, I don't know, I'd get up in the middle of the night

00:56:28.660 and fucking rattle off an email that's like, oh, this is like a bomb.

00:56:31.960 Yeah.

00:56:32.100 Yeah.

00:56:32.560 So that three hours later when everybody wakes up.

00:56:36.240 I know.

00:56:37.340 I did that stuff too.

00:56:39.620 Oh, God.

00:56:40.780 It's painful.

00:56:41.540 You like kind of, a lot of the time you, and especially sometimes you're working with

00:56:45.620 the kind of people that do it where they create issues and like problems where there are none

00:56:51.180 just to like have a problem.

00:56:53.660 Yeah.

00:56:54.060 And then you have to deal with the problem.

00:56:55.800 I don't know.

00:56:56.380 Yeah.

00:56:56.580 I'm like the David Blaine of complete fucking bullshit.

00:57:00.340 Kind of, you know?

00:57:04.300 Like, guess what?

00:57:05.500 Ta-da.

00:57:05.980 Fucking bullshit.

00:57:07.460 You know?

00:57:08.120 Yeah.

00:57:08.860 Ta-da.

00:57:11.820 Thanks.

00:57:12.320 Did you ever have any?

00:57:15.320 That was great.

00:57:18.540 Did you ever, because you talk a little bit about addiction and things, do you talk about

00:57:22.360 that kind of stuff?

00:57:23.480 Yeah.

00:57:23.760 I mean, I've had my battles with it, so I've been like on this roller coaster.

00:57:27.660 Yeah.

00:57:28.060 It's a tough ride, kind of.

00:57:29.880 It's a really tough ride.

00:57:31.420 But it's a fun ride, though, too, I think.

00:57:33.760 It is.

00:57:34.520 I mean, it's fun when you learn like, I don't know how not to do it.

00:57:39.300 I mean, it's just beating yourself up.

00:57:43.340 My adding is just like, literally, like, in my wife asking me, do you just want to kill

00:57:47.840 yourself?

00:57:48.300 It's like, no, but there's something inside of me that's trying to kill me.

00:57:52.700 Absolutely has no problem with it.

00:57:55.140 You know what I mean?

00:57:56.400 So you have to like, but then also like, just not wanting to go there.

00:58:01.660 Right.

00:58:02.020 Like, my personal life, like, I don't know.

00:58:07.060 I, like, when I first sort of fell off the rails, it was kind of public.

00:58:14.720 I was like calling and I was starting all this shit.

00:58:16.780 And I don't remember any of that.

00:58:17.800 I don't even know about any of that.

00:58:19.160 Oh, thank God.

00:58:19.660 Oh, yeah, it's just like, completely like, blah, like, regurgitating my life, you know,

00:58:26.740 and just like.

00:58:27.400 Oh, yeah, but we do that here.

00:58:28.680 Yeah, we do that here.

00:58:29.120 Yeah, you do that here, but it's your own place.

00:58:32.660 And it's like, you know, you're also not fucked up doing it.

00:58:37.940 Oh, yeah.

00:58:38.860 Yeah, I would do that.

00:58:40.020 Dude, I had a night.

00:58:40.840 So I ended up on Opie and Jim Norton.

00:58:45.540 They used to have a show.

00:58:46.340 Yeah.

00:58:46.820 Opie and, this was after Opie and Anthony in Sirius.

00:58:49.520 It was across from Howard.

00:58:50.420 And a lot of times people would do the loop up there and they'd be coming.

00:58:53.600 So I ended up one night, all cocaine all night, driving a taxi.

00:58:57.380 The taxi driver's in the back.

00:58:58.820 He's in the taxi, right?

00:59:00.040 Wow.

00:59:01.060 Long night, dude.

00:59:02.040 Great time.

00:59:02.900 Yeah.

00:59:04.560 Get to the radio station.

00:59:05.780 I have to be on air at 6 a.m., bro.

00:59:07.460 Can't even, I mean, can't even feel my fucking face, bro, with either hand.

00:59:12.660 I tried both hands, right?

00:59:13.640 At first I thought, oh, something's wrong with this hand, you know?

00:59:15.700 And then I tried feeling my face with this hand and I knew something wrong with my face.

00:59:20.500 And Daryl Strawberry's the other guest that day.

00:59:23.420 Oh, my gosh.

00:59:24.920 That's a good, he could help you through it.

00:59:28.140 Yeah, if anybody can help me through it.

00:59:29.980 Experience, yeah.

00:59:30.720 But man, I was so embarrassed.

00:59:32.080 Oh, yeah, just use a little bend game.

00:59:33.500 Put it behind your ear.

00:59:34.920 You'll get your feeling back.

00:59:36.800 There I am right there.

00:59:37.640 Oh, my gosh.

00:59:38.380 Blasted out of my brain.

00:59:40.020 Oh, my gosh.

00:59:40.920 Dude, I had done enough cocaine to frickin' take Daryl Strawberry to extra innings, bro, no doubt.

00:59:46.220 No kidding.

00:59:47.000 You can see him grinding away, too.

00:59:49.400 Oh, man, I lost a half inch in my mouth that day.

00:59:51.860 Oh, no.

00:59:52.700 It's such a, cocaine's the worst.

00:59:55.840 Yeah, it's the worst, bro.

00:59:56.940 It really is just, I'd say it turns men into mice.

01:00:00.160 Yeah.

01:00:00.360 It's just.

01:00:01.640 And it's fun, though.

01:00:02.720 That's the thing.

01:00:03.240 They put a little bit of fun in it.

01:00:04.760 Yeah.

01:00:05.260 I mean, it's fun.

01:00:06.340 It's just so vapid, the fun.

01:00:08.080 Yeah.

01:00:08.240 It's also like hot air.

01:00:10.280 Yeah, man.

01:00:10.720 There's so many better ways to do it, but it just takes a lot more work.

01:00:17.400 Yeah.

01:00:17.500 You know, you just have to work to get those highs, but it just takes the work to get there,

01:00:22.980 and then it's like the culmination of all the work, and then you have that fun time.

01:00:27.580 And then even the process of doing this stuff can be fun, too.

01:00:30.760 Yeah.

01:00:31.220 Where you can get that life high.

01:00:33.260 Yeah, yeah.

01:00:33.780 Yeah, no, there's definitely a lot.

01:00:35.220 I mean, there's things I like now about definitely waking up and being able to handle my day.

01:00:39.420 Oh, hell yeah.

01:00:39.960 And open my eyes up, have those little moments.

01:00:42.180 I'm sure it is with family and stuff, too, especially.

01:00:44.360 Yeah.

01:00:44.660 And the more responsibilities I get in my life, the less I find myself wanting to do stuff

01:00:50.040 like that, you know?

01:00:50.960 Yeah.

01:00:52.280 But so are you, with the documentary, I don't know if, I didn't watch it because I just

01:00:57.980 don't know how much you want to share about, like, give it.

01:01:00.440 Are you making a push now to get more into wrestling?

01:01:05.620 Yeah.

01:01:06.160 I don't know.

01:01:07.140 I might wrestle more.

01:01:08.500 I did it mainly for this documentary.

01:01:11.000 Mm-hmm.

01:01:11.120 So I kind of did what I set out to do.

01:01:14.220 Right.

01:01:14.840 If we wrestle some more.

01:01:15.900 I mean, I love the world, you know.

01:01:17.700 I like wrestling with RJ City as my tag team partner, so I don't know if I want to do it

01:01:24.340 without, like, a tag team partner.

01:01:26.820 I always got in trouble without a tag team partner.

01:01:29.780 Yeah.

01:01:31.140 Yeah.

01:01:31.760 Unless it was with a pro, like, Cole Cabana or something.

01:01:34.600 And here's a guy right here who's probably alone.

01:01:36.820 Well, Theo, what's up, David?

01:01:39.480 Seth from Kentucky here.

01:01:40.660 And my question for David is, who has more fun in the wrestling community?

01:01:45.160 Heels or faces?

01:01:46.920 You know, do you get to have more fun being that bad guy or do you have more fun being

01:01:50.440 the face of it all?

01:01:51.760 Gang, gang.

01:01:52.420 Gang, bro.

01:01:53.180 Gang, gang.

01:01:54.720 That's a good question, man.

01:01:56.020 Yeah, it is a good question.

01:01:57.140 The heels definitely have more fun within it.

01:01:59.420 Like, it's just, you know, heels represent, like, being chicken shits, being, like, backstabbers,

01:02:08.120 having no spine.

01:02:09.420 You can just say the worst things.

01:02:12.060 You can just do all this stuff.

01:02:14.120 You can just, when you come from a place of that, it's weird when people get mixed up.

01:02:20.020 Like, some people get mixed up.

01:02:21.860 Like, they might be the heel, but they want to be tough in the match, too.

01:02:25.040 Mm-hmm.

01:02:25.340 And it doesn't work as well if you're, like...

01:02:29.420 The audience gets more invested if you cheat to, like, hurt them or you do something.

01:02:35.560 Like, so...

01:02:35.760 Right, if you do a heel behavior.

01:02:37.120 Yeah, exactly.

01:02:37.580 Right, if you're going to be a heel, be a heel.

01:02:39.220 Yeah, yeah, exactly.

01:02:41.120 So, yeah, and then really be a heel.

01:02:43.580 Right.

01:02:43.760 So much so as, like, being chicken about stuff or cheating to win or, like, all that kind

01:02:48.900 of stuff.

01:02:49.800 It happens a lot, man.

01:02:51.340 It's really just a reflection of life, you know?

01:02:53.840 Yeah.

01:02:54.060 It's just such a...

01:02:54.980 It's such a...

01:02:55.980 Like, whatever...

01:02:56.740 I think it's called a Greek play or something where they do plays.

01:02:59.420 And it's, you know, in Greece or something.

01:03:02.180 And they...

01:03:03.220 You know, it's, like, good and evil, you know?

01:03:05.240 Yeah, yeah.

01:03:05.780 It's just like that, man.

01:03:07.560 Yeah, for sure.

01:03:08.420 But I would love to see you beat the shit out of Mystic Rick, though.

01:03:11.860 Yeah?

01:03:13.120 Yeah, dude.

01:03:14.760 Definitely.

01:03:15.160 Do you guys have a little, like, a little, like, promotion or something?

01:03:20.940 Does he have a belt or...

01:03:23.140 Theo called him out and he never responded or the Rat King called him out?

01:03:26.540 Rat King called him out and he never responded, man.

01:03:28.680 We had a belt that started years ago when...

01:03:33.780 They have a podcast called The Fighter and the Kid.

01:03:35.580 Yeah.

01:03:36.300 And they had a vote on their podcast for best guest or one of the best guests in the year.

01:03:41.700 And that guy got a belt.

01:03:43.040 So, once the belt came into...

01:03:44.420 It came...

01:03:45.020 That's the origin story of the belt.

01:03:46.480 And then, you know, we started taking on different characters and, you know, just...

01:03:51.240 You know, I kind of, like...

01:03:52.620 Most of our fan base is really a bunch of rats, you know?

01:03:54.900 Not bad rats, but just, like, underdogs, you know?

01:03:57.760 Yeah.

01:03:58.260 I'm right there with you.

01:03:59.500 Yeah, cheese hunters, you know?

01:04:00.900 So...

01:04:01.260 Yeah.

01:04:01.520 I feel it.

01:04:04.400 What else do you want to talk about, you think?

01:04:07.260 I don't know.

01:04:08.880 Did you ever do any jail time?

01:04:10.940 No.

01:04:11.760 I never had a mug shot.

01:04:14.940 I've been pretty careful about certain things.

01:04:17.620 I've been wild, but...

01:04:18.960 Did you ever, like, wreck a car?

01:04:20.700 Really?

01:04:21.220 Really?

01:04:21.620 No, I never drove all the ways.

01:04:23.560 I mean, I've driven once in a while, but I've avoided it all very...

01:04:28.620 Yeah.

01:04:29.260 Yeah, that's one of the main things.

01:04:32.060 That's really good, then.

01:04:33.380 Yeah.

01:04:34.200 Yeah, I never wanted to get in a situation where I hurt anybody.

01:04:39.760 Yeah, do you think...

01:04:41.300 Do you think that...

01:04:43.720 Yeah, I just wonder if I could handle one of those prisons or not, you know?

01:04:47.920 You think you'd be good in prison?

01:04:50.760 I don't know, man.

01:04:52.460 I wouldn't...

01:04:53.000 I hate to have to deal with it, but...

01:04:57.200 You know, we did a documentary called Survivor's Guide to Prison, which was really cool.

01:05:02.740 We produced it with Danny Trejo.

01:05:04.420 It was a Matthew Cook film.

01:05:06.100 It was really great.

01:05:06.960 My wife really produced it, but that taught us a lot about the prison system, you know,

01:05:13.700 how corrupt it is and how it needs to be changed.

01:05:17.200 But actually being in there, that would be something else.

01:05:20.000 I mean, I taught an acting class at San Quentin a couple of times.

01:05:24.540 Yeah?

01:05:25.340 Yeah, that was interesting.

01:05:25.780 Some good actors in there?

01:05:27.420 It was cool.

01:05:28.320 It was weird.

01:05:29.700 I had them do this improvisational game called Animal Transformation, where you pick an animal

01:05:34.840 and then you transform it into like, all right, let's put, you know, you're a giraffe

01:05:39.860 and you're a rhinoceros?

01:05:43.840 Yeah.

01:05:45.080 Yeah.

01:05:45.720 I was about to...

01:05:46.900 I thought you were going to say Ryan Reynolds.

01:05:48.380 I'm kidding.

01:05:49.240 You're a giraffe and you're Ryan Reynolds.

01:05:52.420 I'd watch that.

01:05:53.240 But you bring them up to like human form, but still maintain the characteristics.

01:05:57.400 So like this dude would be a, you know, like a rhino or whatever, and there goes up to

01:06:02.860 the giraffe, but it was like kind of aggressive because rhinos seem aggressive.

01:06:07.560 And then the guard was like, stop, stop, stop.

01:06:09.820 You got to stop.

01:06:10.660 And he explained to me like, they could get into this little acting thing right here, but

01:06:15.180 then they could go out and like get in a huge fight on the yard.

01:06:18.120 If, if like someone disrespects each other and there's like all this code and all this

01:06:24.740 stuff.

01:06:25.180 So I'd hate to have to learn that stuff, but you know, I get by.

01:06:29.740 But do you think when you think about prison, like, do you think what parts of prison do

01:06:33.680 you think you would enjoy?

01:06:34.500 I don't know, man.

01:06:38.120 Like, you like a small room.

01:06:39.700 I like a small room.

01:06:40.660 I like characters.

01:06:41.560 So I'm sure there'd be some characters in there that I got to hit it.

01:06:45.280 I like the kind of joking that happens in places like that or at school or in like, you know,

01:06:50.900 places where people are all hanging out and kind of not bored, but have time on their

01:06:56.480 hands or it's just like hanging out with your homies.

01:06:59.580 Like, you know, when you're growing up, the guys you grew up with, the way you can joke

01:07:03.600 with them, it's like, you know, a great feeling.

01:07:06.360 Yeah.

01:07:06.580 Why do we lose that as we get older?

01:07:08.160 It just, I mean, that disappears, doesn't it?

01:07:10.340 In a lot of ways.

01:07:11.240 It does.

01:07:12.180 You have to kind of stick with those guys.

01:07:14.140 You have, you, when you go back home, you probably have friends like that, right?

01:07:17.420 Yeah.

01:07:18.320 I'm on a couple of text chains like that, but you never can really replicate that.

01:07:22.740 But just that childhoodness of it where somebody doesn't have to, now people have responsibilities

01:07:28.920 and somebody, you know, they owe somebody money or there's some bullshit or something.

01:07:34.140 Yeah, totally.

01:07:35.780 But.

01:07:37.440 I love Brody.

01:07:39.620 That's.

01:07:40.620 Yeah, man.

01:07:41.340 One of a kind.

01:07:41.820 He just had a birthday the other day.

01:07:43.100 Did he really?

01:07:44.000 Yeah.

01:07:44.580 He's awesome.

01:07:45.280 I knew him for a while.

01:07:46.200 We hired him on a show called Midnightly News to warm up the audience like back in, shit,

01:07:54.540 back in the 90s or something.

01:07:56.700 Did you, yeah, he, one thing that I loved about him was his, I think he just always had this

01:08:05.980 ability like to make you feel kind of, he was such a loner almost.

01:08:11.440 He was such like a scared dude, but he always would like really kind of go out of his way

01:08:15.940 to kind of make you feel included, you know?

01:08:18.100 Yeah.

01:08:20.380 He, man, talk about being a loving person, but finding it really hard, I feel like to

01:08:24.700 express how your love in like normal ways and stuff.

01:08:28.620 Yeah, totally.

01:08:30.020 Man, he was a warrior, man.

01:08:31.680 I can't, I still cannot believe that it, that suicide, it's just crazy how it just, I

01:08:36.560 mean, it sneaks in.

01:08:37.760 Yeah.

01:08:38.140 Like in an instant almost.

01:08:39.260 Yeah, it's sad and people can't do it anymore.

01:08:44.560 I get it.

01:08:45.300 But I also get it sometimes, man.

01:08:47.380 I get it, but there's like, you have to fight through these, the hard times because there

01:08:52.240 is beauty on the other side.

01:08:53.880 Yeah.

01:08:54.140 This is a really dark time right now, just in general.

01:08:57.560 A lot of people are scared.

01:08:59.240 A lot of people are losing loved ones and you don't know where there's, you know, where

01:09:05.700 the bills are going to get paid from.

01:09:07.360 So it's really scary at this time, but you have to know that we will make it through

01:09:11.520 this.

01:09:11.980 Yeah.

01:09:12.340 And we will have fun on the other side.

01:09:15.140 And there's little things that come like as you get older that are really beautiful little

01:09:19.440 things.

01:09:20.180 And it's just literally like catching, you know, tadpoles with your kids or like the wind

01:09:26.480 on your hair, like, you know, you get an appreciation for certain things.

01:09:31.480 Getting a snack, anything, something small.

01:09:33.540 Yeah, I know.

01:09:34.200 When you can really like sit there like, oh, this grape tastes great.

01:09:38.080 Like.

01:09:38.260 Yeah.

01:09:38.900 You're like in a place where you're like, you're taking a moment to appreciate a grape.

01:09:43.420 Yeah.

01:09:43.900 It's like, oh, this is different because you're not like as wound up about the world.

01:09:49.120 Yeah, man.

01:09:49.680 It's tough, dude.

01:09:50.360 I made a gratitude list this morning.

01:09:51.880 I'm trying to get back more into gratitude, you know, just be thankful for the little

01:09:55.140 things.

01:09:55.620 That's the best, man.

01:09:56.600 You know.

01:09:56.920 That's such a key.

01:09:57.960 It gets so tricky.

01:10:00.640 Yeah, I think.

01:10:01.420 So, yeah, I feel like.

01:10:02.960 So, yeah.

01:10:03.260 After watching the doc, I felt like it was.

01:10:05.120 It's really kind of.

01:10:06.460 I guess it really does kind of stand as a story of like setting a goal and kind of.

01:10:11.860 Do you feel like it's getting a monkey off your back?

01:10:15.520 A little bit.

01:10:16.420 I mean, it definitely, you know, the thing I learned was that it was me.

01:10:21.880 Like I had this one therapy session with my therapist and I was like talking about my

01:10:29.200 mom and dad and how heavy like their marriage or relationship was.

01:10:33.000 And then I was like, wait, they're both dead.

01:10:36.160 It's like literally this heaviness is just inside me and they're gone.

01:10:40.340 So, like to work to lift that was really helpful.

01:10:43.260 You're like David Duchovny, but I feel like the X-Files are on the inside.

01:10:48.820 I'm telling you, it is.

01:10:50.640 We all have to figure out all this stuff going on inside.

01:10:53.580 It's so crazy, bro.

01:10:55.000 How much crazy baggage we carry, man.

01:10:57.120 I know, man.

01:10:59.000 Yeah.

01:10:59.640 And then I will swim in it.

01:11:00.960 I will make a fucking swimming pool out of my baggage and then dive right into it.

01:11:07.340 Yeah, I know.

01:11:08.080 When there's tons of other things to go do.

01:11:10.460 People are like, hey, come get on this water slide.

01:11:12.520 Come get on this Ferris wheel.

01:11:13.600 I'm like, nah, nah, nah.

01:11:14.500 I just made this amazing swimming pool with all my own bullshit.

01:11:18.400 Yeah.

01:11:18.780 Let's just go in there for a while.

01:11:21.640 Oh, it gets to me after a while.

01:11:23.320 What else we got, Nick?

01:11:24.260 We had a written question that came in.

01:11:26.020 It said, when will we see Chuck Hank and the San Diego Twins?

01:11:29.640 You're telling me.

01:11:30.420 This is a movie I did like eight years ago and it still hasn't come out.

01:11:33.660 I just have no idea.

01:11:35.820 I was so impressed by this group of filmmakers because they all had cameras.

01:11:40.740 They're all shooting.

01:11:41.580 I was like, you have like eight cameras.

01:11:43.760 Like nobody has eight cameras unless you're doing a sitcom.

01:11:46.740 And then, uh, so they're shooting it and they're like having all these angles.

01:11:51.640 They're all filmmakers.

01:11:52.360 They're all editors.

01:11:53.220 And then the movie disappears for a year.

01:11:56.440 There's a rumor that it's still going to be done, but I just don't know.

01:11:59.460 What causes that kind of stuff when something disappears?

01:12:03.140 What causes that?

01:12:03.840 It could have been any kind of thing.

01:12:06.060 Usually like there's a falling out between the filmmakers and then one person's either

01:12:10.140 in charge of it and then just doesn't like complete it or there's just tied up.

01:12:16.240 So they're sort of push pulling.

01:12:18.360 I don't know.

01:12:19.200 There's all kinds of things.

01:12:20.620 Yeah.

01:12:21.840 What about you?

01:12:22.800 What are you interested in doing?

01:12:24.180 Like, uh, I think I'm getting a, I'm thinking about getting a dang dog recently.

01:12:29.780 Yeah, man.

01:12:30.440 That's a real, that's a beautiful thing.

01:12:33.080 Have you had one before?

01:12:34.500 Oh, no kidding.

01:12:35.620 Like, do you know what kind of dog you've been looking?

01:12:38.040 I think like a one, like a, everybody's kind of has like a labradoodle right now.

01:12:41.980 Yeah.

01:12:42.320 So I've been thinking about that kind of, I feel like they have nice, like kind of

01:12:45.280 eyebrows kind of, but.

01:12:46.900 Yeah.

01:12:47.280 But do you need a bigger dog for any reason?

01:12:50.200 I don't really, I was thinking also a black lab.

01:12:51.940 Then I also, a friend of mine has a Dachshund wiener dog.

01:12:56.000 Yeah.

01:12:56.440 And man, he was nice.

01:12:57.560 Yeah.

01:12:57.860 Little dogs.

01:12:58.540 Or the difference is big dogs are dope because they're big dogs and like they're, I don't

01:13:03.640 know, but little dogs are amazing too.

01:13:05.700 I've had both.

01:13:06.940 Little dogs are just fun because for someone like you, you can almost bring them anywhere.

01:13:10.980 Yeah.

01:13:11.200 Like, and then you become the guy with the dog, but that's the whole thing.

01:13:15.100 But if you love this dog and he's really easy and he can be here, like it'd probably

01:13:21.260 be like fun for you.

01:13:23.120 Yeah.

01:13:23.400 Bigger dogs are harder to, to bring, like they're harder to bring on trips.

01:13:27.100 They're just harder to, to manage, but they're incredible.

01:13:31.360 I don't, we have four Basset Hounds, which is a lot.

01:13:33.960 Oh, they're big.

01:13:34.940 Yeah.

01:13:35.200 That's like a rich old looking dog.

01:13:36.600 They're big dogs.

01:13:37.580 They're like medium sized dogs, but they got little dog legs.

01:13:40.620 So they're short to the ground.

01:13:43.040 Oh, Basset Hounds have the long with the long ears.

01:13:45.140 Yeah.

01:13:45.680 Yeah.

01:13:46.180 Yeah.

01:13:46.500 Yeah.

01:13:46.760 Those are fun dogs.

01:13:47.960 Those are really good Southern dogs too.

01:13:50.720 Yeah.

01:13:51.140 I wouldn't mind.

01:13:51.880 I'm trying to think of maybe what to get.

01:13:53.380 I don't know.

01:13:54.260 I went to, I went to a man's house yesterday and he had two bunnies too.

01:13:57.420 Oh, no kidding.

01:13:58.300 Yeah.

01:13:58.940 That's cool.

01:13:59.900 But that's a big responsibility.

01:14:01.740 Is that what you're kind of like?

01:14:03.700 Yeah.

01:14:04.060 I'm thinking about that, you know?

01:14:05.500 Now there you go right there.

01:14:06.440 That's beautiful.

01:14:07.140 Yeah.

01:14:07.520 Oh, and look at that undercarriage.

01:14:08.740 Huh?

01:14:08.820 They got some real meat on them.

01:14:10.200 Yeah.

01:14:10.520 They have rolls of skin when they're like real Basset Hounds.

01:14:15.600 But they're pretty well behaved?

01:14:17.220 Yeah.

01:14:17.560 I mean, some of like, they're all individuals.

01:14:20.200 So some of them are better behaved than others.

01:14:22.360 I mean, they all have their own personalities, but, you know, they howl and bark a lot, these

01:14:27.880 guys.

01:14:28.660 So some of them don't as much, but that's just something to think about if you're, you have

01:14:33.800 to leave them in your apartment or house for a little while.

01:14:36.660 So sometimes the barking can be a whole thing or like get babysitters.

01:14:41.400 Yeah.

01:14:41.760 That's what I would think.

01:14:42.400 Maybe getting a friend with a yard or something.

01:14:44.480 Yeah.

01:14:45.800 But yeah, what else?

01:14:46.700 I don't know.

01:14:46.980 I want to take some Brazilian jujitsu actually.

01:14:49.140 Yeah, man.

01:14:49.700 That's amazing.

01:14:50.540 Do you have a guy?

01:14:51.860 I don't have a guy, but we have a guy, Eddie Bravo, that trains people.

01:14:55.220 Oh, you did?

01:14:55.780 Oh, that's dope.

01:14:56.540 He's dope.

01:14:56.980 But we don't know, but I don't know.

01:14:58.980 I trained with Higan Machado during this whole thing.

01:15:01.200 Oh, really?

01:15:01.760 He's amazing, bro.

01:15:02.860 So you've taken it?

01:15:03.860 Yeah.

01:15:04.280 You enjoy it?

01:15:04.720 I mean, just not like.

01:15:05.900 Right.

01:15:06.700 Belts or anything, but just for exercising.

01:15:10.000 Hell yes, it's important to learn that shit.

01:15:12.740 Yeah, that's what I want to learn.

01:15:13.780 Just I think like kind of working on that confidence, that inner confidence of just,

01:15:17.760 you know, feeling a little more comfortable.

01:15:19.560 Yes.

01:15:19.980 That's what any of that stuff will do for you.

01:15:22.240 Like I, it's funny that I got a brown belt in Yoshikai karate, but it was, I never got a

01:15:29.960 black belt.

01:15:30.320 I had like one more thing that my sensei moved to Florida.

01:15:36.440 So I was like stuck with the brown belt, but it's kind of perfect.

01:15:41.800 It's kind of.

01:15:42.380 It's kind of.

01:15:42.960 Colored belt.

01:15:44.720 But what it does teach you, like once you get into and you're like training a lot and

01:15:49.780 doing it as an exercise and stuff, like your balance and everything, you're like, you learn

01:15:54.280 all this kind of like little ancient tricks with life that are just like really kind of cool.

01:16:01.280 When you learn all the like katas and all this stuff, it'll just prepare you for kind of stuff like

01:16:06.780 that.

01:16:07.060 And then jujitsu is a whole other beast, which is amazing.

01:16:10.120 It's so fucking cool.

01:16:12.300 Yeah.

01:16:12.420 It seems cool.

01:16:13.220 I just always have this dream.

01:16:14.320 Like I'm somewhere, you know, I'm at a subway or something.

01:16:16.660 I didn't want to go, but somebody took me, you know, because I don't like it.

01:16:20.280 But and then somebody like some guys like, hey, you know, what the fuck is wrong with

01:16:25.600 you?

01:16:25.940 You know, and I'll be like that, you know, and then next thing you know, I have to fucking

01:16:31.360 defend myself, dude.

01:16:33.520 First of all, I don't really probably want to be in a fight.

01:16:36.620 Second of all, I do not want to fight in a subway, bro.

01:16:39.560 You know what I'm saying?

01:16:40.280 Like at least beat my ass out of five guys, you know?

01:16:43.540 So, but I want to be able to at least like know that if something happens, like I don't

01:16:48.700 have to feel like I don't have a chance.

01:16:50.620 You know?

01:16:51.060 Yeah.

01:16:51.300 That's I feel like that when I was young, that's always the feeling that I had, man.

01:16:55.000 Every kid was like tougher than me.

01:16:56.380 I felt like it.

01:16:57.220 So.

01:16:58.080 I know that feeling.

01:16:59.000 I was like, I don't have a chance, dude.

01:17:00.680 I'm going to go hide in this tree or I do something fucking gag, make a kite or something.

01:17:04.720 Be like, what in the fuck is wrong with this kid?

01:17:06.940 You know?

01:17:07.500 Yeah.

01:17:07.760 Nowadays you have to be careful fighting just because some people like a lot of people do

01:17:11.700 know that kind of stuff.

01:17:13.120 Oh, yeah.

01:17:13.720 Everything going on.

01:17:15.060 Henry Cejudo.

01:17:15.660 Choke you out.

01:17:16.380 You know, if you saw Henry Cejudo somewhere regularly, you'd beat him with a stick, probably

01:17:21.880 no candy come out.

01:17:23.200 Bring up a picture of him.

01:17:24.700 But he is a legend, you know?

01:17:27.660 Okay.

01:17:28.240 Yeah.

01:17:28.580 I mean, he's, you know, is he undefeated?

01:17:33.700 No, he lost to Demetrius once.

01:17:36.520 And then he, I think that might be his only loss.

01:17:39.380 He beat Demetrius the second time.

01:17:42.220 But even if you can just get a picture of him, Nick.

01:17:45.680 That's him right there.

01:17:46.620 I was trying to get him like one where he's not.

01:17:48.360 Or how tall he is.

01:17:50.740 I mean, I think he's 5'2".

01:17:52.720 Oh, yeah.

01:17:55.160 But he's the, I mean, he won three belts, I think.

01:17:57.940 Oh, man.

01:17:58.660 That's tough.

01:18:00.840 That's tough.

01:18:03.560 Yeah, there he is compared to some other guys.

01:18:05.640 Some whites.

01:18:06.220 No kidding.

01:18:07.600 Yeah, that's actually the big shell.

01:18:09.140 Big shell's almost, he's seven feet.

01:18:11.920 Have you ever been slammed by any of those real big guys?

01:18:15.180 Um, he'd bully Ray slam me through a table.

01:18:18.700 Hell, yeah.

01:18:19.440 Put my hips out.

01:18:22.440 Yeah.

01:18:23.400 That's what my back, like, what would happen with me is like either my neck or my back would

01:18:28.100 go out constantly.

01:18:29.400 So then I'd just be jacked up for the next week or so.

01:18:32.780 It sucks.

01:18:33.640 Oh, it's so brutal sport.

01:18:36.780 And would you get those shots?

01:18:37.840 Would you get some shots to help it?

01:18:39.160 No, I wish.

01:18:39.820 Like, they probably have that stuff at WWE.

01:18:41.980 But then the independent circuit, they don't even have an ambulance.

01:18:46.100 Hopefully, we'll have like a first aid kit.

01:18:49.920 Yeah, on the independent circuit, man, I remember growing up, they had some dudes bus fighting,

01:18:53.860 man.

01:18:54.100 It would be people in their backyard.

01:18:55.500 And this is before, people wouldn't even videotape it.

01:18:58.820 People would draw a picture of it and show it the next day.

01:19:01.180 You know, this is backyard wrestling, man.

01:19:03.260 That's good fun.

01:19:04.180 And people would just put a bunch of picnic tables.

01:19:06.820 I mean, it was choppy.

01:19:08.000 It was just extremely dangerous, too.

01:19:11.560 But, you know, people's stepdads and family disputes.

01:19:15.720 One man threw another man into a damn ditch fire by us one time.

01:19:18.800 Oh, my gosh.

01:19:19.380 Pretty cool, man.

01:19:20.580 Oh, yeah.

01:19:21.020 Fire is intense.

01:19:23.840 What else we got, Nick?

01:19:25.060 I had a question about like the independent wrestling circus.

01:19:27.500 Is it still like kind of the wild, wild west with like some of the performance enhancers?

01:19:31.440 Because I watched Ready to Rumble last night just because of this, and Mr. Perfect, Kurt

01:19:37.360 Henning, Macho Man, and then I don't think me and Gene was on anything, but all three

01:19:42.500 of those guys have passed away.

01:19:44.020 And it's like, it seems like there's not wrestlers that get over like 60 or whatever

01:19:47.560 and you keep hearing about him dying.

01:19:49.200 Or is it still like kind of that unhealthy?

01:19:52.200 Well, obviously it's bad for your body, too.

01:19:54.260 But I feel like the steroids back in the day definitely played a part.

01:19:58.200 For sure.

01:19:58.740 I don't know like how many, like how prevalent steroids are.

01:20:03.860 I think when John Cena came up, it was like real, like from that point on, there was real

01:20:08.400 more of a focus on body and like strength training and working out.

01:20:13.880 Also, some of the guys, kind of the stature guys kind of fell down, so it's not as like

01:20:19.240 big, giant.

01:20:20.460 But there's a few guys that are really super buff, and I don't know if they take anything

01:20:24.720 or not.

01:20:25.400 I never did.

01:20:26.420 I had to, I just, I always liked the kind of body that like a Bruce Lee has, where it's

01:20:32.160 more ripped than anything.

01:20:33.680 You know what I mean?

01:20:34.280 And if you can lose enough weight, you got muscles under there.

01:20:37.800 So once you lose the fat, it kind of looks bigger anyway.

01:20:41.040 Yeah.

01:20:41.340 And then you learn little things like, you know, eating protein right, you know, right

01:20:46.560 after you, within the first half hour of doing weight, helps a lot to build muscle.

01:20:52.360 But yeah, he's like the baddest.

01:20:55.640 And he's not like huge, but he's.

01:20:58.220 Did you ever meet him?

01:20:59.620 No, I never got to meet him.

01:21:02.480 But we were huge fans growing up.

01:21:04.140 And I met his daughter, who was really nice.

01:21:06.860 Really?

01:21:07.400 Was she hot?

01:21:08.420 Yeah, she's beautiful.

01:21:09.880 She's just sweet.

01:21:11.520 Yeah, that's what I mean.

01:21:12.520 She's a beautiful lady.

01:21:13.340 My daughter, she was just like, has like a cool, like air to her.

01:21:18.400 You can tell.

01:21:19.500 You got to be.

01:21:20.620 Can you imagine being Bruce Lee's daughter and you're just fucking, you know?

01:21:23.100 A dick.

01:21:24.240 But it happens.

01:21:25.420 I mean, there's some people that just get caught up with this whole world.

01:21:29.060 I know.

01:21:29.820 I know.

01:21:30.340 It's horrible.

01:21:30.460 I bet, especially in the world that you've seen, man, really being into Hollywood, it

01:21:33.340 gets really kind of vapid out there.

01:21:36.360 Yeah, it does.

01:21:37.880 I mean, there's a lot of shit that happens.

01:21:39.940 I've been in the business 30 years, so.

01:21:41.780 That's crazy, man.

01:21:42.900 Yeah.

01:21:43.580 I mean, how old are you?

01:21:44.520 I'm 40 years old.

01:21:45.600 Oh, you are?

01:21:46.160 Yeah.

01:21:46.640 You seem to be so young.

01:21:47.640 So, I'm getting older, man.

01:21:48.580 I'm an adult now.

01:21:50.820 40, it's a cool age, though.

01:21:53.420 It's when stuff starts not, you'll figure your world out.

01:21:58.320 Yeah.

01:21:58.920 I like the idea of stuff not having, being so stressed, like, you know, not being so serious.

01:22:05.320 Yeah.

01:22:06.520 I do, too.

01:22:07.360 I think that'll always, that'll go on forever.

01:22:11.640 I mean, especially just dogs and kids and all that stuff, if you want to have them.

01:22:17.920 There's just, there's a lot of shit that comes with them, but then there's also, like, the

01:22:22.100 most silliest stuff you'll ever do.

01:22:24.080 You know what I mean?

01:22:24.740 Which is, then becomes the funnest stuff you'll ever experience.

01:22:28.120 Yeah.

01:22:28.420 When you look back on being a wrestling champion, do you look back on it fondly?

01:22:35.380 Yeah.

01:22:35.920 I mean, just to be part of this world, the world that I always loved, I look at that fondly.

01:22:41.820 You know, and with all my griping about stuff, you know, it's wrestling, so I use it all in

01:22:50.280 the movie.

01:22:51.200 You know what I mean?

01:22:52.260 I mean, I'm a fan of Andy Kaufman's.

01:22:54.780 That's part of this whole thing.

01:22:56.320 You know what I mean?

01:22:57.020 It's just part of what I, the things that I love.

01:23:00.040 Right.

01:23:00.340 You know, so it's like, I do look at it fondly.

01:23:04.340 I mean, especially with sort of coming back and, like, who knows if this is the end of

01:23:10.680 it?

01:23:11.100 You know?

01:23:11.700 Who knows if there'll be some other kind of wrestling adventures?

01:23:15.060 Yeah.

01:23:16.100 What do you see?

01:23:16.900 Do you, are there other, I mean, do you still have a lot of stuff?

01:23:18.920 Obviously, you want to get into stuff that you can make more that's your own.

01:23:22.140 Yeah.

01:23:22.340 Yeah.

01:23:22.700 Do you feel like yourself getting more motivated towards that kind of?

01:23:26.100 Yeah, for sure.

01:23:26.980 I mean, that's what I do with my spare time in between waiting for something or auditioning

01:23:31.080 for something.

01:23:32.620 Just sort of, yeah, work on projects that I believe in.

01:23:36.440 And have you done any movies in space?

01:23:38.140 Man, I could really see you in space.

01:23:39.820 Yeah, I would love to.

01:23:41.000 I would love that.

01:23:41.900 I mean, how cool, how cool would it be to be, like, the first film shot in space?

01:23:46.900 Yeah.

01:23:47.040 That would be the baddest.

01:23:49.020 I would love that.

01:23:50.020 Yeah, I think it would be, I mean, I don't know, space, we keep going as these shitholes,

01:23:54.080 man.

01:23:54.860 Mars, the moon, like, these places, like, look, I'm no fucking, I'm no real estate agent.

01:24:00.960 Well, I don't know why the moon, they don't already have, like, a Disney world up there.

01:24:05.820 I know nobody would like it to be upsetting for some people, but I think it'd be amazing.

01:24:10.560 Oh, I think something small, you could stop in, at least a rest area, you know?

01:24:15.120 But, yeah, it seems like we keep going to these shitholes, bro, Mars, let's be honest,

01:24:20.200 bro.

01:24:20.880 This place is a shithole.

01:24:23.380 I'm not a real estate agent, but every picture you see, it's like, this place is garbage,

01:24:27.800 dude.

01:24:27.960 I know.

01:24:28.620 There's fire everywhere.

01:24:30.000 There's no place you could even fucking, you can't even, you couldn't even have an outdoors.

01:24:34.000 It's just, I don't know.

01:24:35.860 It's like Palm Springs.

01:24:36.600 Yeah.

01:24:36.840 Yeah, it's like, they can build it up.

01:24:40.620 It's like Palm Springs, dirty grandfather.

01:24:43.160 Yeah.

01:24:43.540 You know, it's just like, why don't we, let's find a decent planet or quit fucking around,

01:24:48.360 man.

01:24:48.740 You know, spend the money, send a shuttle in the fucking Zaire and let's fucking habitat

01:24:53.460 over there.

01:24:54.080 You know, like, I just feel like if we need to work more locally, look at this.

01:24:58.200 I mean, come on, dude.

01:25:01.140 Oh, yeah.

01:25:02.280 And you got dumb chicks and dudes and chudes out there sitting around saying, oh, man,

01:25:08.840 think we'll ever live on Mars like idiots at a fucking bar somewhere.

01:25:12.520 You know, you got one third of the BW Buffalo Wild Wings population sitting there four beers

01:25:18.280 deep.

01:25:19.020 Man, I wonder if we'll ever live on Mars, you know, place of a shithole, man.

01:25:23.800 Sorry, I just, I didn't know anybody was going to be here when I felt like this, but it's

01:25:31.160 just kind of just making me mad, man.

01:25:33.780 We just got bigger fish to fry, dude.

01:25:36.260 But I want to see some more of these promos.

01:25:37.920 I want to see more of these wrestlers cut promos.

01:25:39.720 I want to see more politicians cut promos.

01:25:42.160 Dude, I'm telling you, one politician puts out a dope ass wrestling promo.

01:25:46.160 I feel like they would get all the votes.

01:25:47.640 They would get a lot of votes.

01:25:48.740 I had one friend who was voting for Trump because he provided, you know, WrestleMania

01:25:55.100 at his casinos.

01:25:56.820 I was like, you can't vote for him for that reason, though.

01:25:59.520 You just can't.

01:26:00.420 Not for that reason.

01:26:02.060 Dude, it's crazy.

01:26:03.100 I mean, the whole world is so crazy.

01:26:05.660 His wife looked, Melania looks hot, though.

01:26:08.040 I got to say that, man.

01:26:09.400 Yeah.

01:26:09.880 You know, people act like she's not hot.

01:26:11.960 Like, I'll pretend a lot of stuff, but I'm not going to pretend that she's not hot, dude.

01:26:16.540 That's insane.

01:26:17.540 I mean, yeah, I can imagine.

01:26:18.820 I mean, you have to have, people have to present you a lot of times with projects where they're

01:26:22.280 like, you would be perfect for this, huh?

01:26:23.980 Was there a point where you didn't want to really do some of that stuff?

01:26:28.500 No, not really.

01:26:29.560 I mean, when you get hot, you get like a lot of offers.

01:26:34.220 So then it's like you have to kind of sift through the good stuff.

01:26:38.240 But when you're not, you just kind of like are trying to find good projects to work on.

01:26:43.680 Yeah.

01:26:43.920 So typically low budget things that you don't get paid for, you never know how they're really

01:26:48.880 going to turn out if they ever come out at all.

01:26:51.600 Yeah.

01:26:53.120 Yeah.

01:26:53.480 I've been offered a couple of real wild animals, man.

01:26:57.680 But.

01:26:58.680 Yeah.

01:26:58.960 I don't know, man.

01:27:01.840 We'll see, you know.

01:27:03.260 Yeah.

01:27:03.520 I would love to do something where, you know, a friend of mine, a black friend of mine said

01:27:08.300 that black people and aliens don't get along well.

01:27:11.480 Or there's beef.

01:27:12.080 We love our new home.

01:27:13.100 There's so much space.

01:27:14.840 There's a new.

01:27:16.100 Or there's like beef in that community.

01:27:19.360 And so I'm like wondering.

01:27:21.140 Yeah.

01:27:21.760 That's amazing.

01:27:22.720 So I'm like wondering how do we get.

01:27:25.040 That's good.

01:27:25.580 That film.

01:27:26.520 You know, I'll be like some guy just like, you know, some guy that works for the United

01:27:29.620 Nations or whatever.

01:27:30.980 But I'm just thinking, how do we get to see that?

01:27:33.800 You know, because I'm ready to see that.

01:27:35.880 That's good.

01:27:36.680 You know.

01:27:36.980 I get a treatment, an outline, then a script.

01:27:40.860 Yeah.

01:27:41.200 Brothers versus aliens, dude.

01:27:42.460 I'm ready to break it.

01:27:43.600 There's no way I wouldn't watch that.

01:27:45.720 That's amazing.

01:27:46.700 So.

01:27:49.200 All right.

01:27:49.800 Well, David, I appreciate you coming in, man.

01:27:51.620 Thanks for having me, man.

01:27:52.740 Yeah.

01:27:52.960 I'm a big fan of your comedy and I appreciate you.

01:27:55.700 Well, I definitely remember like the day that you said hey to me at the gym.

01:27:58.160 It made me feel really good.

01:27:58.980 I remember telling one of my friends, I'm like, dude, I got to meet David Arquette today.

01:28:03.380 It was awesome.

01:28:04.920 But yeah, I was happy to watch the documentary, man.

01:28:06.980 I'll watch the end now that I know it's safe to.

01:28:09.540 And you guys will have to check out You Cannot Kill David Arquette.

01:28:15.580 Thank you so much.

01:28:16.560 And just stay alive, I guess.

01:28:17.680 Right?

01:28:17.800 And we'll see a sequel.

01:28:18.800 That's it.

01:28:19.540 I'll be alive.

01:28:20.500 I can't die.

01:28:21.640 Okay.

01:28:22.160 You can't kill me.

01:28:22.740 Now I'm just floating on the breeze and I feel I'm falling like these leaves.

01:28:28.600 I must be cornerstone.

01:28:31.780 Oh, but when I reach that ground I'll share this peace of mind I found I can feel it in my bones.

01:28:42.700 But it's gonna take a little time For me to set that parking brake And let myself unwind

01:28:55.080 Shine that light on me I'll sit and tell you my stories Shine on me And I will find a song

01:29:25.080 A runaway train with a heavy load of my hands And these rails that I've been riding on

01:29:35.300 They're worn so thin that they're damn near gone I guess now they just work

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Hate Speech Sentences

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