This Past Weekend with Theo Von - E305 Michael Chandler

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00:00:37.220 today's guest is a mixed martial artist he's a three-time bellator lightweight world champion

00:00:44.900 he's a fitness and training entrepreneur as well i think it's safe to say and uh he just signed his

00:00:53.600 contract for the ufc entering an insane lightweight division uh happy to have him here today mr michael

00:01:01.360 and what are you taking right now this is just obviously this is just my body this is just my

00:01:31.340 vitamins i freaking completely forgot all the way okay because a lot of rumors about you out there

00:01:34.880 what are you taking right now i just want to know exactly it was uh um fish oil it was fish oil turmeric

00:01:45.300 beta alanine magnesium bcaas and do you take that once a day um twice a day there's the formula in the

00:01:56.420 in at night there's like one or two other things that help me sleep i think that's about it okay

00:02:00.400 and how uh i'll send you my supplement list actually will you i do i just did it for my buddy yesterday

00:02:05.340 dude i need a little bit of rest i don't know if i could take your supplement list man no it's dude

00:02:09.160 it's all just it's all just like the little micronutrients that you're probably not getting

00:02:12.480 from your food and that's it and then for me for you for all of us like just anti-inflammatory

00:02:16.840 antioxidants like that's the most important thing did you see a blood specialist or how did you how

00:02:21.460 did you start to get on this regimen i did i did a couple years ago just to just to look at all my

00:02:27.060 stuff like where i was at hormone levels and all that kind of stuff um because that's the idea like

00:02:32.120 how do you how do you legally keep your body in tip-top shape good diet and rest are like the two

00:02:39.280 most important thing but then it's supplementation making sure you're taking care of your body every

00:02:43.120 after every single workout like bcaa's protein those are the two things that i would die on a die

00:02:48.360 on a freaking mountain for those are the two things that i've been taking over the last 10 years that

00:02:52.640 are just that have always kept me feeling good so you take them right post-workout obviously

00:02:58.080 with protein and then you do the bcaa's yeah bc i mean pretty much i have a blender bottle with me

00:03:03.020 three times a day like in the morning i get up and i oh creatine so i do creatine for oh yeah

00:03:08.720 the brain better creating when i would bust boy actually when i bust tables well that's the thing

00:03:12.100 like i kind of steered away from it because i thought i thought creatine was just like you know the

00:03:16.820 freaking dudes who just wanted the big biceps and they freaking lift weights in high school

00:03:20.500 inno explode it was inno explode and freaking creatine that you know that's all it was back

00:03:25.920 in the day we didn't even read the whole label we just thought it said nox nobody knew what the

00:03:29.520 heck it was like it was just like they busted some kid at our school with two things of it

00:03:33.920 and they called the police on it exactly what they're trying to he was trying to sell it

00:03:36.920 he's just spooning it out to people here put this in your mouth and you're some dumb kids out

00:03:44.180 there before his test getting two bits of it like bro you're just gonna be an awake idiot i'm pretty

00:03:49.160 sure i got an a man pretty good name for sure i got an a no you gotta you gotta d kevin

00:03:53.420 kevin always got a d you got a d minus man kevin always got a d kevin was that kid who would sit

00:04:00.180 in class and he would have the hoodie and he would close it completely and then sit there the entire

00:04:04.980 class just draw both strings down and just have it completely shut i'm cool miss davis leave me alone

00:04:11.420 man had a rough night um so what else so your regimen is sleep what is it because when i watch

00:04:18.640 you man like you know when i watch your fights it's like jesus christ even as a viewer i'm like

00:04:25.820 will this guy stop for a second so i can like it's too many frames per minute it's like how can i visually

00:04:33.440 catch up to what's going on here dude i mean that that to me is just that's god just god's gifts man

00:04:39.460 like some some because you know what it is it's i'm not afraid to freaking lose and i'm not afraid

00:04:44.280 i'm not afraid to not like it becomes cliche i'm not i'm really not afraid to die in there and i'm

00:04:50.480 really not afraid to get tired either trust me i've been tired i've passed out i passed out inside of

00:04:56.960 get tired yeah i passed out inside of a fight once from just exhaustion woke up before the fifth round

00:05:03.180 coach carried me to the stool woke up on the stool and then fought the fifth round so once you've been

00:05:08.000 there you're just like well there's really nothing that's gonna stop me you know and and i think it's

00:05:12.700 just it's wrestling like in wrestling it was seven hard minutes in their face push them out of bounds

00:05:18.300 take them down do whatever you got to do like to win the match like shoot more times than he does

00:05:23.240 go harder than he does foot on the gas all gas no breaks like didn't just go so i think that wrestling

00:05:29.620 mindset is just like now it doesn't work as well in fighting because it's 15 minutes it's 25 minutes

00:05:34.200 you got to be a little more you got to negotiate those spaces a little bit more and not go so hard

00:05:39.340 all the time or else you will die you know yeah do you is it a psychological thing for you in that

00:05:44.260 first round because i mean you come out in some first rounds like dude i would even you know if

00:05:48.920 they let me wear a ton of padding i might go against you in like a ninth round but a first round would be

00:05:53.260 somebody wanting to die it seems like yeah do you come out there with a different psychology in the

00:05:58.160 first round kind of like or is that part of your mindset like i'm put everything is right here

00:06:02.800 yeah because i think some people some people are slow starters and case in point like i think

00:06:09.160 could be habib finished justin gaethje the way that he did because i think justin gaethje wasn't ready

00:06:16.340 for habib to come out with him come out the way they did come out that hot so you can usually just you

00:06:21.940 can get guys flustered you get get guys nervous get guys scared they immediately become a defensive

00:06:28.080 fighter right away and that's why the only fights i've lost are the ones that

00:06:31.860 people ran away from me you know and i lose a split decision you know like that's literally the

00:06:36.720 only pretty much the way that i've lost you know when you were watching the could be even gaethje

00:06:41.220 what were you uh what do you think after that first round because i felt like gaethje got a lot

00:06:45.360 of time on his feet against him a lot of it got a lot of guys don't get that it seemed like do not

00:06:49.280 get as much time against could be on their feet yeah no and i think i think that's that i think

00:06:53.100 that was the most surprising thing is is we thought the striking was going to lean towards

00:06:59.100 gaethje's favor yet could be i think the manner in which could be fights is just hectic crazy fast

00:07:06.560 pace it's not that skilled if you go back and watch the fight there really wasn't a ton of strikes that

00:07:11.700 were landed they landed on justin's hands they landed on justin's elbows forearms like it wasn't like he

00:07:16.840 hurt uh gaethje numerous times he just got i think he just got gaethje scared and i and i hate using the

00:07:22.060 word scary because i don't like to talk about the guys in my division right and obviously justin's

00:07:25.980 not a guy who gets scared but i know what you're saying that that nerd that energy in the beginning

00:07:29.760 or it's even like uh who was i just talking to oh uh well i was talking to brendan about it i think

00:07:34.980 like it's almost like if you get thrown into a scenario where you're not you're just not ready

00:07:40.460 you can make bad decisions you know and i think justin gaethje also just was making bad decisions

00:07:45.280 on the ground so i don't think necessarily think justin gaethje is that bad on the ground i think he just

00:07:49.740 got there and he was just like what do i do this guy's nuts you know this guy's a freaking

00:07:53.440 mauler yeah he's like a rare snake kind of yeah exactly they're like why haven't scientists found

00:07:58.840 this dude yet you know it's kind of like it's almost like you would see him more on one of those

00:08:03.540 like david attenborough kind of like yeah you know the david at the russian i'm a gun then you would

00:08:09.740 like it seems like he hasn't been discovered it's like well somebody test this dude yeah he's like

00:08:13.360 never reptilianism yeah or like or like 3 000 miles below the sea level yeah like bottom of

00:08:19.540 the ocean somewhere he's running on some old water for sure when you're watching that fight did you

00:08:24.760 think um at all and i'm a novice fight watcher you know i'm new into like just even absorbing a lot of

00:08:31.060 what you guys's world is like and it's and the biggest reason is just because it's something that's

00:08:35.200 so scared me my whole life like any like physical altercation like never learned how to defend

00:08:40.280 myself never learned any of that growing up nobody even in my ear like hey just at least stand there

00:08:44.500 and get hit you know none of that so i definitely come from a place of fascination did you think when

00:08:49.920 you were watching the uh khabib engage you that that khabib kind of let the first round happen do

00:08:54.920 you feel like he could have finished earlier or do you feel like um it just that the way it played out

00:08:59.980 was the way it played out i think the way it played out was the way it played out because i think i

00:09:03.840 mean i think khabib just was going and going and just turned it into a fight real quick fast paces and i

00:09:09.900 loved it he just fought with reckless abandon and this is a guy who's undefeated most of the time

00:09:13.680 you see guys who are undefeated protect that record by fighting a little bit more uh you know a little

00:09:20.780 bit more timid or a little bit more diplomatic a little bit smarter you know if you will but he just

00:09:25.300 went he went in there and wanted to get into a fist fight with with you know the craziest striker

00:09:29.600 in the division it kind of goes back a little bit to what you were just saying about

00:09:32.980 uh the not not being afraid to be exhausted you know not being because i've never thought about

00:09:40.220 it like that like i go into any sort of physical if i'm at the gym or if i'm training or something

00:09:44.200 like yeah i'm thinking okay in a little bit i'm going to be exhausted out that fear is a real

00:09:48.760 like a living fear that's in me i i think i think that's one of the greatest fears of of anybody

00:09:54.200 across all walks of life when it comes to athletics like nobody likes to get tired you know people are

00:10:00.660 afraid of getting hurt people are afraid of of losing but man getting tired is the worst thing

00:10:05.480 in the world now also getting tired on the football field means you got caught you know it means you're

00:10:10.120 running down you got 80 yards and you're running and you get caught by the the d-back who's just

00:10:14.020 faster than you because you slowed down that's not that big of a deal but you get you get tired

00:10:18.040 and locked into a cage with another man with four ounce gloves like that's a scary spot to be in

00:10:23.180 because when when when the lactic acid builds up and the heart rate is through the roof and you can't

00:10:28.420 fill your arms and legs and then you got a man coming at you trying to knock your head off

00:10:32.280 that's a scary place to be and that's a place where nobody wants to be so you know that you know

00:10:37.400 that scenario was all always right there it's only a couple a couple crazy moves away or a couple

00:10:42.620 scrambles or getting hurt and get your heart rate up like it's always there so you just have to it's

00:10:48.580 like the movie 300 where he always talks about fear is always a constant when he's when he's talking

00:10:52.780 to his his young son at the very beginning of the movie fear is always a constant but accepting it

00:10:56.840 that's where we win the battle accepting the fact that you're always going to the fear is always

00:11:00.800 going to be there and then push him through it that's where the rub is that's where the champions

00:11:04.800 go yeah it's interesting me yeah because i just accepted in the beginning i was like oh i'm just

00:11:08.820 afraid as fuck when i was young yeah i just never unaccepted it you know i got us never but yeah that's

00:11:14.340 interesting man i was watching that fight last night with you and eddie alvarez man what a fight can you

00:11:19.660 go back and watch that sort of thing like because i noticed at the end it's almost like a

00:11:23.740 you know you were winning the fight i think it was four rounds to maybe you know i mean maybe four

00:11:29.480 three one or something in the in the final round and um but it's still been such an amazing battle

00:11:35.000 like in that last couple of minutes are you is do you start to get into a defensive mindset like okay

00:11:41.620 i have this i probably have this win in the bag like when do you kind of apply like strategic breaks

00:11:48.520 you know what i'm saying like yeah like you know uh d um d accelerate but knowing that you already

00:11:55.760 probably have the win if you can get to the finish line i never do and and that's not a smart thing

00:12:00.400 to do you know if you're a young fighter listening to this right now like it's it's made me a great

00:12:04.960 living it's got me a lot of fans because i just i'm all gas no brakes but it's also bit me in the

00:12:10.480 behind numerous times you know and and even you know as we talk about like i passed out at the end of

00:12:14.980 the fourth round of the my first benson henderson fight and then lost the fifth round i won the

00:12:19.600 first four lost the fifth round um oh yeah that's right huh just because i just kept going and it

00:12:25.520 wasn't because i lost the fifth round because i took my foot off the gas i just i fought so hard

00:12:30.040 the first four rounds that i didn't have anything left in the tank and i freaking peed blood afterwards

00:12:33.800 and had rhabdomyolysis and all kinds of crazy stuff and um what do you do though so when you're

00:12:39.320 heading into that type of a round like when you're heading into that type of that was you end up in

00:12:44.000 those rounds man you end up in those i mean yeah the first fight against benson that round

00:12:50.280 that uh that fight was insane i mean you you know he took a lot of hits in that in that whole fight

00:12:55.480 i mean that thing was crazy yeah the suplex i'm like what i don't even know we in like roman times

00:13:00.460 like i don't know what's going on right it was intense right yeah but yeah when you're going into

00:13:04.700 that type of a round uh what do you do man so that was when you know that you've run out of a lot

00:13:10.220 of gas of your natural gas yeah that was uncharted territory you know i i never would have thought

00:13:15.180 i would lose consciousness inside the fight thank god it happened right at the end of the bell rang

00:13:19.440 and i'm just sitting there on my knees and i'm not thinking about anything because i'm not even

00:13:23.160 kind of stumbled right and they're like that's what the announcer said i'm not even conscious man

00:13:26.960 like i was and then i sat down on the on the on the the stool one one coach is in front of me and

00:13:33.040 then this coach behind me yells something and that's when i like did this and then i asked my coach

00:13:39.060 in front of me did i get did i just get knocked out did i get choked out he's like no man this is

00:13:43.420 my my dutch kickboxing coach henry hoofd he's like no man what are you talking about man we're going to

00:13:48.180 the fifth round man you're doing good you're gonna win this fight yeah you're in spelling class

00:13:51.280 yeah and i'm like yeah for sure and i and i remember i couldn't i couldn't lift my arm because

00:13:56.020 i don't think the blood quite got to my because remember i was you said i was stumbling because my feet

00:14:00.220 weren't working and my arms weren't working so i couldn't lift my hands up to protect myself for that

00:14:04.780 fifth round but that's just uncharted territory but it's also that that primal animal instinct that

00:14:12.100 you just have inside you where it's like at that point you're a you're a possum backed up into a

00:14:17.080 corner and no matter what you just got to fight you either just curl your table curl your tail curl your

00:14:21.660 tail between your legs and die but how you how do you how do you adjust your strategy at that point

00:14:25.960 well at that point the strategy was the strategy was somewhat survive you know and and and that's why

00:14:31.640 that's why i would say if i had more in the tank i would have just went forward with reckless abandon

00:14:37.440 but at some point you're like okay well i need to take a little bit of step back try to breathe a

00:14:41.600 little bit you know because i got into the point of no return there's a difference between being

00:14:45.800 afraid to get to the point of no return so all the way leading up to it you you're only fighting at

00:14:51.760 50 60 70 but if you fight at 100 get to the point of no return after that your 100 is like 40 50

00:15:00.540 percent and you're fighting at 50 not being 100 uh you know offensive or or or or kind of trying

00:15:08.200 to come forward but essentially you're just you're in survival mode and then once you get your your

00:15:12.220 wits back about you're a little bit of gas a little bit of blood back to your brain then you can start

00:15:16.700 throwing offense again which is that's kind of what i did in that round even though i essentially just

00:15:20.320 got into a grappling match with them and you know lost the fifth round pretty bad got a big old cut

00:15:23.940 you know but uh let's go to we got a question right here riley can you hear everybody okay

00:15:28.700 yeah you can okay great hello hello uh chase malton out of virginia uh for mr chandler if you saw that

00:15:40.320 anderson silva fight this weekend what are your thoughts on it and do you think he should retire

00:15:44.880 because i think most of us do what do you think about just you know guys kind of out of their prime

00:15:49.500 trying to fight anyway good question good question a lot of good questions came in for you

00:15:55.640 yeah um you know anderson silva is you know one of the greatest of all time but when you watch his

00:16:02.400 last couple fights it's hard to remember the anderson silva the greatest of all time i think that's why

00:16:07.940 i think what gsp did so well is he was like i'm done you know i'm i did my thing crushed it i made my

00:16:14.620 money i got a i left a good taste in people's mouths of a who i am as a man as a competitor

00:16:20.260 what i accomplished and then i'm going to be be out the barry sanders if you will you know um

00:16:25.700 it's always good to retire before people think you should because the fans always want more out of

00:16:30.720 you you know selfishly the fans all of his fans in brazil they want more out of anderson silva keep

00:16:35.280 going keep going keep going but before you know it you know you lose you know in devastating fashion

00:16:40.100 again or you lose that bad again and then people can kind of forget so i would like to see him hang

00:16:45.040 it up even though you know it sounds like he's going to but i i i would have said this two three

00:16:51.680 fights ago as well man you he's he's a he's a icon in brazil you know he's a worldwide you know

00:16:58.560 superstar when it comes to mixed martial arts he's i never want to talk about someone's money or what is

00:17:04.280 enough money or what is enough legacy or whatever but i feel like he should have enough legacy should have

00:17:08.700 enough money should have enough happiness should have enough of what he's built to be able to sail

00:17:12.640 off in the sunset so then what do you think it is that brings someone back at that moment like what

00:17:16.520 is it like if you had to get inside of of his mindset knowing what it's like to be a fighter

00:17:21.040 yeah well and i think that's the difference and i and i don't want to bring other people up but i

00:17:25.360 think there's definitely been guys that you're that you're like okay that guy's only fighting because

00:17:29.620 he blew a bunch of money he needs some money right he needs to come he needs to make a paycheck

00:17:34.520 oh if i was in brazil dude with the drugs and women i'd have blown it all

00:17:37.600 back into the ring on one foot dude well that well and that's that's the thing but i don't think

00:17:43.180 i i right you're not saying that about him no i think anderson silva is the guy who just

00:17:47.080 i bet he's i bet he's set for life i could be wrong you know like i said i don't know the guy

00:17:50.820 personally but there's a lot of guys you say that guy right there i know why he's stepping in the

00:17:55.400 cage tonight he needs another paycheck he needs to you know nick diaz you mean well yeah i just made

00:18:01.420 that up also no i mean i i don't know i wonder i don't know how those diaz brothers are doing i bet

00:18:06.280 they're doing all right but i mean i know nate nate diaz did all right when that that connor

00:18:11.180 fight made a couple million but you know it's uh it's it's tough because i'm gonna get to that

00:18:16.160 point eventually you know where people are like dang it's time to hang it up you know but i'm in

00:18:20.320 my mind in my camp with my coaches it's something you always have to go back to your family and your

00:18:25.580 coaches because you're never going to want to quit you know you're never going to want to stop

00:18:29.600 unless yeah that's what i'm getting at you're never going to want to quit no even though like a guy

00:18:33.080 like gsp i mean there's there's him on the on record saying he hated fighting like he he hated

00:18:38.400 he would show up to the arena and pray to god that the that a comet would come down and hit the

00:18:43.680 arena and they just end his misery that freaking that someone would pull the fire alarm that there

00:18:49.000 would be a bomb threat that there would be something where he would just be like thank god i

00:18:52.400 could go home and don't have to do this you know he he he talked about in in and documented

00:18:57.280 kind of like the anxiety that the guy went through and this is one of the greatest of all time

00:19:01.200 a guy who looked unbeatable at times you know still does still yeah i mean still he i think

00:19:05.600 he could come into the cage right now and at 155 170 and and win the freaking title 185 possibly you

00:19:11.040 know so you never know what's motivating a guy but you got to go back to your coaches you know your

00:19:15.320 your closest of kin your mentors your family and and then the people around you that that know

00:19:20.340 no matter how much how much more that you accomplish how much more money you make they

00:19:24.500 don't benefit from it they just want to see you happy you know those are the people that's

00:19:27.940 those that's those are people you got to listen to you know it's interesting because even in every

00:19:32.340 in every form of entertainment or survival uh anything i guess maybe i mean i can relate it a

00:19:39.020 little bit in my own life but yeah you there's these voices that push you to succeed and like

00:19:44.360 even these invisible voices of people that naysayers you know haters that say you can't you know

00:19:49.720 um but then at a certain point those voices aren't really helping you anymore it's more the voices

00:19:56.440 that actually can see you as a human yeah and saying like okay you know we care about you there's

00:20:02.800 no you've proven yourself you know what do you do now how do you manage that because there's there's a

00:20:09.420 there's a lot of mismanagement mismanagement at that point as well and sometimes you're so blind

00:20:13.920 you just come up so blindly like just throwing fists especially in you guys's career you know and

00:20:19.000 i see what poirier in a lot of his fights in his old fights you can see he didn't even have a look

00:20:22.480 in his eyes he's just like a you know an animal you have that animal instinct but then you get to

00:20:27.320 a point where you're standing on top of the cage and you're like okay i'm not i'm not in this i'm

00:20:32.260 not fighting for nothing anymore like i'm at a point where i can make some choices for myself well

00:20:37.100 yeah i mean a lot of it comes with maturity and stuff too and and and i told you it was cool like

00:20:41.640 right around the time that we met you know i was getting ready to go fight and that was the first

00:20:46.640 time i ever met poirier because poirier was cornering a guy who was on the same card and i just went

00:20:51.560 straight up connecticut it was in connecticut oh saba saba or saba something yeah he just he got

00:20:59.100 a couple wins in a row yeah you know he's good and poirier was there the whole fight week cornering

00:21:03.140 and whatnot and i just went straight up to him because i i knew at this point i was probably

00:21:06.400 going to go i was probably going to leave bellator uh and i was probably going to hopefully sign with

00:21:11.500 the ufc my goal was i wanted to sign with the ufc so i knew i was about to walk up to a guy that i was

00:21:17.260 probably gonna i'm gonna be in the same division for sure i'm probably gonna end up fighting him

00:21:20.480 but to me the respect level for a guy like poirier or even anybody in the division i don't

00:21:27.020 i respect you if you step inside the cage you make your living doing what i do doing what we do because

00:21:30.940 this is what was it i understand the perils the trials the tribulations of this this tough

00:21:35.240 sport that we call our our profession but went up to him and we were talking a little bit and i just

00:21:39.880 you know i congratulated on on his last win he had just beaten dan hooker a couple weeks prior

00:21:43.580 congratulated him on the fight of the year candidate that it was it was a phenomenal fight his heart his

00:21:48.820 determination what he does outside the cage the man that he is the competitor that he is the father

00:21:53.460 that he is and then also we kind of talked like about the journey a little bit where it's like man

00:21:58.580 30 something years old now got a wife got a kid got it you know doing what we're doing is much

00:22:04.000 different than back in the day i kind of brought up about how he was some young shaved head punk kid

00:22:08.300 on that documentary you saw the his documentary along and that was dustin poirier from back in the day

00:22:14.380 and he was in this documentary crazy this insane thing coming out of the swamp exactly and but it's

00:22:20.100 so cool to see where people start and then where people end up and and watch and watch people's

00:22:26.800 maturation throughout the journey and and he he would probably if he was sitting here today he would

00:22:30.740 probably say man you know his his career i think is a blueprint for a guy who who started at a certain

00:22:36.800 point has ended up where he's at he's at the top of the game top of the division top of the toughest

00:22:41.400 division in the entire world about to fight the biggest global superstar of of mixed martial arts

00:22:46.780 and conor mcgregor he's in a phenomenal spot but you don't just fall there by accident you'll fall to

00:22:51.380 the top of the mountain by just by coincidence you know he had to build and climb and plod and and tread

00:22:58.420 towards that and a lot of it comes with good things happen to good people you know and it's not

00:23:03.560 it's not that people don't do the right things it's that people don't do the right things for long

00:23:06.960 enough and he's put his time in growing into a phenomenal man father husband and yeah he's a

00:23:12.700 good role model so it's cool just just seeing the maturation process of of us as fighters you know

00:23:18.680 yeah decade later yeah it's wild and it's also it's interesting to see because you know growing up

00:23:24.740 like a lot of kids in my neighborhood would fight a lot of like you know it was a lot of like you know

00:23:29.740 a lot of poor kids kind of fight you know it's just something to do you don't have cable you

00:23:35.060 fucking throw two fucking you know 48 pounders in the ditch and let them go at it you know what

00:23:39.660 i'm saying like just different dude i used to invite friends over like kind of rich friends

00:23:43.860 and then we would go on a bike ride in the neighborhood and i knew some kids were gonna

00:23:47.080 fucking fight him oh my god and you weren't gonna be in the fight oh bro i was don king out there

00:23:52.320 i'm standing on the side of this my buddy's like i thought we're just going to rent movies i'm like

00:23:56.180 well dude you got to deal with fucking little thomas hoover first son you know

00:23:59.960 this dude weighs 47 pounds but he's scrappy dude that's funny that's a true story that's a true

00:24:08.200 story bro one of my friends still gets mad at me about it man but yeah i used to invite one of

00:24:13.020 the rich friends one of the rich friends you guys are still friends i'm like you'll be fine he's got

00:24:16.480 a really nice freaking haro with pegs on it and stuff and you get the kid the kid comes out with a

00:24:21.780 freaking busted up mongoose like hey what's up oh definitely hey what's up tommy hoover yeah tommy hoover

00:24:27.720 comes out dude he's got that natural shake in him bro you know yeah just the lord scoliosis bro

00:24:33.280 you're just missing a couple elements you know but yeah i used to do that shit but so it's interesting

00:24:38.700 to get to a point it seems it seems interesting from an outsider's perspective to get to a point where

00:24:43.960 yeah you to come from a place of fighting for your peace of mind or for your comfort or to feel

00:24:51.120 okay you know like i do stand-up comedy to feel okay i get on a stage i need something from people

00:24:56.480 you know fighters they there's some we're all trying to prove something to ourselves or to

00:25:02.000 others but to come from a place of fighting because that's such a physical and brute thing

00:25:07.500 to then get to a place of having some sort of peace in your life where um where whatever those voices

00:25:14.700 are that probably made you so angry in the first place that's a wild ride you guys are on yeah and

00:25:20.940 it's and it's funny too as the sport has evolved and even even in the very beginning of of the sport you

00:25:25.880 know the sport started with uh you know dana white and these guys they didn't even start the ufc it

00:25:31.640 was it was started by a different group and then the ufc and the fertitas dana white bought it and

00:25:36.760 turned it into what it is today but i'm sure there was guys who fought just for there was no money in

00:25:42.180 it either so it wasn't like they were trying to make a bunch of money it was really who was the

00:25:45.780 toughest who's the baddest dude on the planet from what uh vocation from what background you got you

00:25:51.540 got your boxer there was a boxer wearing one boxing glove where he could throw a jab but he could also

00:25:55.440 grapple had your karate guys your sumo wrestling guys your street fighters your whatever back

00:26:00.700 flippers some guys get in there just do a back flip and then get their ass kicked yeah exactly you know

00:26:04.020 see they that's how it kind of started and then and then and then it evolved into the sport of okay

00:26:08.680 we can make a living out of this or or it's just a really cool hobby so you saw guys who kind of came

00:26:13.560 from a place of anger but then you see a guy like myself i just like hand-to-hand combat and i and i

00:26:18.680 don't i don't really like confrontation the funny thing is i'm very similar to you like if someone

00:26:22.900 walked in right now i wanted to fight i'd get this weird nervous tension and i'm like i'm not

00:26:27.580 trying to fight man i'm not here to fight but you put me inside the cage with you and you and you put

00:26:30.960 a check on the line and it's a competition and i can prove myself in a in a in a contest of hand-to-hand

00:26:36.800 combat that's when the real competitor comes out of me because i love the contest but i don't like

00:26:42.180 the conflict you know um so somewhere in between there is is where you so some of your drive comes

00:26:48.760 from the competition aspect of it no all of it does i think i mean at this point i realize that

00:26:54.640 all of my all of my admirers fans or people who who follow me on my platforms or want to want want to

00:27:02.220 say man that guy is a guy that i want my kid to be like they don't do it because i can kick people's

00:27:07.560 ass like they don't care about that they do it because they say man that guy is a is a symbol

00:27:13.760 and a a manifestation of a little guy from a little town who was taught to do little things who

00:27:18.500 had a bunch of ups a couple downs never quit pulled himself up by his bootstraps dusted himself off

00:27:23.080 every time he got knocked down and became a champion because of it now is in the best position of his

00:27:28.180 career because of of his stick-to-itiveness and his continue to and drive to move forward and yeah

00:27:34.580 it's really cool that he you know it's a bonus that he likes to bite down on his mouthpiece and

00:27:38.720 get into a brawl inside of a cage inside of an octagon but really we like him for the symbol

00:27:45.460 of what he is the metaphor for what his his career stands for and i think that's what that's what i

00:27:51.920 like because to me fighting is so much deeper than just the 15 minutes inside the cage the 25

00:27:57.720 minutes inside the cage it's how you live your life the honor the respect the integrity and the the

00:28:03.080 character that you can build because someday i'm going to be retired i'm gonna look back and say

00:28:06.880 man that was a really fun ride it was painful at times but man i impacted a lot of people throughout

00:28:11.920 it and we had a really good time and made some made some some coin to be able to take care of my

00:28:16.080 family yeah it's funny and i hate to keep bringing up dustin but we're dustin poirier fans here and uh

00:28:21.960 i'm a dustin poirier fan yeah i'm gonna fight him someday you know it's gonna happen oh it'll be a

00:28:26.100 great fight that's the thing like it'll be a great fight you don't have to hate each other right so

00:28:29.160 yeah 100 it's and it seems like there's a lot of respect especially in that division man

00:28:33.020 there's i mean there's some uh god that's insane that's just bumper to bumper traffic in that

00:28:37.740 division but yeah i remember like about a year ago there was just kind of this thing where you

00:28:42.200 got to start to see who dustin was as a person through his fighting yep and it was even after

00:28:47.040 the khabib loss but uh i mean he was bummed i remember talk we talked a little bit and i said but

00:28:52.540 man you don't understand like people are seeing you you're becoming like a hero to people like you're

00:28:57.040 becoming win or lose it doesn't matter anymore yeah not that that this is just my mindset i mean

00:29:02.560 obviously he wants to win every time but i'm like you're becoming people can see who you are

00:29:06.920 through your art and that's one thing that that's what's really amazing i think about having the

00:29:13.080 ability to be in some sort of performance whether it's fighting stand up anything if you can or

00:29:18.260 anything i mean if you're just even if you're just somebody who's going you know picking up garbage if

00:29:22.540 you can if people could see your heart through through whatever you're doing man that's pretty

00:29:27.220 powerful dude that's that's what it is because and that's and that's why we have to be careful as

00:29:31.780 a as a human race as a society to be separated from one another six foot distance wearing masks like

00:29:38.220 like i don't want to turn it into a the political thing or the or the you know the the pandemic thing

00:29:43.840 or any of that kind of stuff but it's like i believe god created us for relationships and not

00:29:48.920 just personal one-on-one relationships but even the the relationship that dustin poirier's fans have

00:29:54.580 with him by watching him via social media by watching him in his fights and truth be told

00:30:01.500 people would care less about him if he was undefeated people would care less about him if

00:30:06.220 he was perfect people love the fact that he gets beaten up battered bruised and then and then

00:30:12.320 picks himself back up gets back on the mic and says you know what i'm not perfect i'm not i'm not

00:30:18.480 undefeated i have blemishes on my record look at me you know when you mess up raise your hand and say

00:30:23.700 hey this is me this is this is my baggage this is my loss but this is my loss to deal with

00:30:27.880 and you can and you will say things about me and you will criticize and you will nitpick

00:30:32.580 but trust me this is i may have lost the the battle tonight but the war will be won down the line and

00:30:40.320 that's and that's what is the beauty of mixed martial arts i have five losses on my record but

00:30:44.800 people don't care about my losses whenever i win my next fight or even if i lose my next fight they

00:30:48.300 don't care they just the best fighters in the in the entire on the entire planet right now are the

00:30:52.740 ones with multiple losses the biggest superstores your jarge george masvidal has like 10 11 losses

00:30:57.740 you know like diaz has nothing more losses than wins maybe connor's got almost five losses now you

00:31:03.540 know could be phenomenal what he has done john jones phenomenal what they have done but it's also the

00:31:10.680 ups and the downs the ebbs and the flows the losses and the wins that that really draw people to

00:31:16.380 these fighters yeah and the different types of fighters yeah it's like some people are like yeah

00:31:20.500 they just want the undefeated but i think more people can relate to a guy that has uh like a

00:31:25.640 you know has the ups and downs it's like even like anthony smith is one of my favorites you know and

00:31:30.880 it's not i could care less if he wins or loses it's like every time he comes out of that tunnel

00:31:35.900 it makes me feel like damn bro whatever's going on in my life i can i'll it's gonna be fine you know

00:31:43.400 this guy can do if this guy can come back um you know i can keep it just reminds me that i can keep

00:31:49.440 going you know and that's so cool like even even you just saying that like i even it gives me a

00:31:54.040 different perspective knowing you and then and and him like i don't i don't know him and and i don't

00:32:00.320 watch a ton of his fights either like it's but it's just funny how certain people gravitate towards

00:32:04.520 or are drawn to certain fighters and i think that's what's so beautiful about mixed martial arts and

00:32:09.960 obviously i'm biased because i'm in it but it's it's so much easier to look at a guy like anthony

00:32:15.780 smith or even any any of us fighters compared to like say a baseball player who you know he chances

00:32:21.980 are the only thing the only thing you see inside of his performance is okay can he catch the ball

00:32:26.020 can he run the bases can he hit the ball we we get the luxury of being inside of a cage fighting

00:32:32.120 and there's second to second to second in each second that happens inside each of those five

00:32:38.340 minute rounds is up very very high very very low somewhere in the middle craziness going on

00:32:44.840 uncertainty and it's it's just a beautiful sport it's a really really beautiful sport and man it's

00:32:50.100 just really cool to be a part of it i would argue like wrestling is the same same way amateur wrestling

00:32:55.100 college wrestling i love it because it's it built me into the man that i am but but mixed martial arts

00:32:59.660 on a global platform is just it's such a beautiful sport because even the guy like you who you know

00:33:05.800 anthony smith watching him and it's just like like we said he's he's in there painting a masterpiece

00:33:10.440 of the physical manifestation of the ups the downs the the your your greatest opportunities and your

00:33:17.180 darkest hour that you personally feel when you watch him fight and maybe he knows you maybe he doesn't

00:33:22.900 like obviously you're a celebrity but like the average person the average person who's like anthony

00:33:27.300 anthony smith is my favorite fighter who anthony may never ever meet but he made that person sitting on

00:33:33.320 his couch in poughkeepsie mississippi watching the ufc paper you feel something yeah it's really

00:33:38.220 freaking cool man pretty crazy it's powerful you guys i mean you guys's sport is unlike any other

00:33:43.080 because there's so many moments where it's like okay how does this how does he approach the beginning

00:33:48.420 of the fight uh what is this what is his behavior been like going up to the fight um how does he uh how

00:33:55.840 is he managing himself in this beginning like in this kind of capo where a kind of beginning dance

00:34:00.420 feeling each other out uh win or lose how do they then behave you know it's like there's so many

00:34:06.900 moments for people to show every side of humanity it's it's almost yeah i think that's why i think

00:34:14.640 there's so many new fans coming to it too it's like wow it's not just about the fighting there's

00:34:18.900 there's just so much more to it um yeah it's like kind of what you said too like it's almost

00:34:23.400 it's almost like of course the fight is the most entertaining part but man think about the walkout

00:34:28.780 think about the you know the the shaking the hands and the hugging of your your your teammates

00:34:34.400 and your coaches before you go into battle it's literally like roman times where they were back

00:34:39.200 in the back and they were shaking their hands you know like you see gladiator with the strength and

00:34:43.580 honor thing before they went out there and like it's don't not to sound cheesy but that's a lot

00:34:48.700 different than so many other sports this is so much more raw and real and it's and and and ronda

00:34:55.280 rousey said it back in the day on this this documentary it's on netflix called the hurt

00:34:58.440 business that i was in it was pretty really cool documentary about fighting and she said

00:35:02.040 you whether you love it or you hate it you're drawn to it people are drawn to it because even

00:35:07.820 if we're the most peaceful person in the world we are somewhat at some level drawn to to conflict

00:35:13.500 yeah or we're drawn to sport we're drawn to competition we're drawn to the contest and and mixed

00:35:18.460 martial arts is all of that rolled into one and like you said there's so many different aspects

00:35:23.960 of the fight that are that are outside of just the fight the build-up and then afterwards whether

00:35:29.420 or not me and you hated say you know we sold it on tv that we hated each other or it was real that

00:35:34.220 we hated each other are we gonna shake hands afterwards are we gonna are we gonna hug afterwards

00:35:38.900 are we gonna shed tears afterwards like what's gonna happen you knock me out do i swallow my pride

00:35:43.900 and say hi you know say congratulations or vice versa or there's any one million different scenarios

00:35:49.660 that could manifest themselves and happen inside the cage and it's it's the most unpredictable

00:35:54.040 uh sport in the world like being tied onto a tornado every single time and that's why people love it and

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00:39:22.800 question right here we got a question from a beautiful young man right here has been smoking

00:39:26.040 question for michael freaking chandler hey man first off congrats on the ufc contract congrats on

00:39:35.520 making it to fight island getting to hang out there making the cut like a professional like you always

00:39:40.500 have been i gotta know though i i can tell you you're a guy who likes to stay in shape you're very

00:39:45.920 disciplined but what's your cheat like say you go out friday night or whatever what's your cheat meal

00:39:51.280 or like just cheat activity what do you like to do whenever you give yourself a day off to just

00:39:55.600 unwind i gotta know gang gang good luck buddy okay bro yeah you ever pull off the side of interstate

00:40:01.940 and have fucking five or six doritos dude i have some i could see you having like six two cool ranch

00:40:07.540 doritos individual triangles in your freaking glove box just two only two no man like you know the most

00:40:13.340 and i love this question because i think i am one of the guys that people look at and they're just

00:40:17.580 like man that dude lives it and i do but you also have to realize that you're a human being and not

00:40:23.940 a robot you know i'm not a cyborg sent back in time to freaking you know fight in a cage okay i'm

00:40:29.220 right then yeah take that question no but uh you know just a normal person so like right now you know

00:40:35.960 you're catching me in between like i just got done making weight what was it pretty much like 14 days ago

00:40:41.560 yeah it was exactly 14 days ago so for the last two weeks i've gotten i've gotten workouts in five

00:40:47.180 six workouts so like a workout on average every other day just to give myself a some time to heal

00:40:52.960 and be some time to almost feel lazy almost feel like a schlub like you know like you eat a little

00:40:59.740 bit of crap you drink some alcoholic beverages be like i love taking my wife out eating some good food

00:41:04.920 having some drinks open up a bottle of wine but i don't feel great afterwards and it reminds me

00:41:10.020 why i go into a 12-week training camp where there's no alcohol there's no bad food i'm eating

00:41:14.340 out of tupperware containers or or my mega fit meals which is a food prep company that i that i use

00:41:19.780 and it's all just chicken lean ground beef salmon turkey lamb what about a lamb maybe no not not in

00:41:26.880 there but i do i do like lamb lamb's not bad lamb my wife makes some good lamb and then i just couple

00:41:31.240 that with like three or four vegetables broccoli cauliflower brussels sprouts sweet potato and that's

00:41:35.860 literally all i eat for 12 weeks straight so you could shit in a garden and help it out pretty much

00:41:41.820 you know like a human human compost and so so to answer his question i love pizza um i i like a thin

00:41:49.200 crust pizza because man too much bread gets me i'm not a chicago deep dish type of guy i'm actually like

00:41:54.520 a st louis style thin crust pizza guy true food here in town have you eaten true yeah i've been over

00:41:59.400 there true food a lot of divorcees in there too looking for that next man yeah exactly you know

00:42:04.660 you go in there somebody ordered me i was like i'm not even hey i'm right there good looking one with

00:42:09.540 the mullet i'll take him with a side of chardonnay uh and so true food pizza is actually like one of my

00:42:15.220 favorite pizzas but um and then man uh yeah so that's what i would do some so also getting yourself

00:42:21.560 probably to feel a little bit like it gives you a place to come back from and also rewarding your

00:42:25.780 body probably from what you went through i mean that's very kind of native american of you in a lot

00:42:29.720 of ways it's just for sure rewarding your body knowing that it's doing things for you it does

00:42:33.620 and and and of course we got to be careful because the food system that we live in the agricultural

00:42:38.720 system that we live in is not very it's not as good as our grandparents our green peppers now are

00:42:44.280 not as good as our grandparents green peppers unless you get unless you get them from the right spot

00:42:48.120 you know and and trying to eat good whole organic foods and whatnot so of course you're doing a

00:42:52.860 little bit of damage by eating the crap but you're also a kind of kind of rewarding your body

00:42:58.800 rewarding your mind that okay let me take take the let me take my foot off the gas a little bit let me

00:43:02.940 be a normal person for a second let me let me harvest a little body fat and let my body thicken back up

00:43:08.580 into a into a kind of a normal a normal body and then obviously i'll shrink it back down once fight

00:43:13.780 comes but i was in training camp essentially from march all the way through october with my last two

00:43:18.800 fights and and well like the fight october 24th i didn't actually fight but i appreciate our man

00:43:24.060 there saying making 155 like a professional that's why i did it you know i wanted i wanted dana white

00:43:28.340 and the ufc fan base right away to see who michael chandler is i'm going to show up i'm going to be

00:43:32.160 there on time on weight i've never pulled out of a fight never said no to a fight i've never missed

00:43:36.900 weight show up on the dot who were you most excited so say you're there i mean you were there

00:43:42.440 and overall was it a good experience was it pretty crazy going over there had you ever been to the

00:43:46.780 middle east i had not been in the middle east but to me it was just more my first fight week with the

00:43:50.740 ufc and it couldn't have been better man it was so awesome obviously i think a fight island fight

00:43:56.220 week is a little bit different than other fight weeks so they rolled out the red carpet for us they

00:44:00.160 you know i was just getting to rub elbows with my new colleagues my new my new co-workers the from

00:44:06.120 dana white all the way down to the person who like checks you in at the very beginning who's

00:44:11.000 kind of new to the ufc all of them are the new heartbeats that are in my life they're it's part of my

00:44:16.400 company who i'm going to you know kind of sail off into the the rest of my career with uh working

00:44:21.980 with so i wanted to make it a good impression on them show them who i am show them did you wear

00:44:25.800 cologne or not be honest cologne no axe really no i'm joking no do people wear axe anymore sorry

00:44:33.420 i don't know great if you did it'd be awesome hey you're gonna i'm just wondering i gotta go check

00:44:37.740 in yeah totally i'm sure there's some guys doing that yeah yeah uh but yeah i just wonder if you

00:44:44.060 put on cologne or something yeah because you're showing up you're kind of the new kind of kid in

00:44:47.660 the candy store you're also kind of the new candy in the candy store i am and it's great too because

00:44:52.860 i'm not just i'm not the young kid who got a really sweet spinning back kick knockout from

00:44:57.540 dana white contender series who's 19 years old right i mean you can say sugar sean o'malley if you

00:45:01.720 want to oh yeah actually actually that is exactly who he is but he came in so great but yeah no and

00:45:08.040 i like him no sean's amazing and and but you don't have that young you don't it's not like you

00:45:11.600 have you this youthful hype you have this long trajectory yeah and anybody who the good thing is

00:45:16.560 and i talked about this the other day you you can't outrun your reputation and your reputation

00:45:22.300 takes years to build and seconds to break down and just fall by the wayside you know and i i think

00:45:28.900 i think i have a good reputation in the industry you know when it comes to and it was and it was

00:45:33.640 great it got me in trouble with a lot of the journalists throughout my free agency process because

00:45:37.980 you know the biggest names in in mixed martial arts like journalism are like hey man give me

00:45:42.700 some inside information hey man let me break the story but i'm like listen back off this is gonna

00:45:47.180 i'm i'm gonna let the ufc do their thing whenever whenever it comes out it's gonna come out i don't

00:45:51.800 i didn't get into the position that i'm in without being a phenomenal employee be a good employee and

00:45:57.640 that's what these young kids miss they got to remember man you're still an employee these guys still

00:46:02.380 sign your paycheck don't bite the hand that feeds you and that was me protecting myself protecting

00:46:06.440 bellator from before i left bellator that was me protecting the ufc that was me protecting the

00:46:11.600 other organizations that i was negotiating with even though i knew i was most i was gonna head in

00:46:15.700 the ufc direction if that door opened itself but you know i had a good reputation coming into this

00:46:22.720 fight week and i think i exceeded people's expectations i hopefully were like hope i had a

00:46:27.900 lot of a lot of the ufc reach out to me and say hey man this is great to work with you you're easy to

00:46:31.460 work with you're eager i also just got done talking yesterday to the one of the ufc pr people

00:46:35.920 and it's like i appreciate you saying that but you have no idea how underutilized i feel like i've been

00:46:41.040 over the last 10 years you know no offense to bellator but they didn't use me enough they didn't

00:46:45.720 build me enough they didn't give me the outside the outside uh opportunities to be on the big stages i

00:46:52.480 i was utilized at about 20 percent i believe 20 percent was me stepping into the cage putting

00:46:59.180 on great performances for them which that's you know one of the most important parts but when it

00:47:02.960 comes to being an athlete man microphones cameras voice word of mouth that's how you build a great

00:47:09.580 platform do you feel like it's uh do you feel like it was any like like it was a shun towards you

00:47:16.160 at all or do you just feel like it's just their company the way it is the size of the company

00:47:20.940 you know like you can only get so big at k-mart you know before you walk into walmart you're like

00:47:25.540 damn you know they got everything 100 no i think it's their business model they are they are the

00:47:30.420 legitimate number two organization in the world and their business model was hey we're going to run a

00:47:35.900 skeleton crew we're going to put on the best fights we can and we're going to we're going to coast and

00:47:40.500 we're going to do our thing that's fine but that's not it's it was against the antithesis against

00:47:45.500 the theos of who i am what i am is is moving forward taking chances investing time energy

00:47:53.880 resources to eventually reap the benefits and i think that's what that's what dana white and the

00:47:58.300 ufc have done man they they you saw it during the pandemic dana white was the first person to get on

00:48:03.600 the microphone and say we will be back we will be the first sport back and you know guys like guys

00:48:08.660 like i mean it was it was uh justin gaethje tony ferguson headlined that that first card and those

00:48:14.280 guys were waiting in the wings and i'm over here in bellator last fight on my contract worldwide

00:48:17.980 pandemic waiting man when am i going to get to fight and that's when fighting is growing i mean

00:48:22.440 fighting itself like was growing at that point like i started to learn a lot more about bellator like

00:48:27.860 nick davis is our producer back in la and he's a huge uh degenerate gambler and mma fan and um but he's

00:48:35.760 always like he knows every fighter from top to bottom of every organization but he started getting

00:48:40.540 me into different bellator he's like you got to watch this um so it's and even the fighting was

00:48:45.680 growing and so it is interesting kind of that maybe were you it was bellator missing some

00:48:51.460 opportunities to grab one of some of that market share even if ufc was the one that was kind of

00:48:56.000 leading it hundred percent one one thousand percent because even even though you know they're different

00:49:01.500 organizations and and i think bellator i think bellator of course they used you know they use the

00:49:07.700 coronavirus pandemic and which the whole world right now if if you you know order a t-shirt

00:49:12.180 offline and it takes an extra two weeks all they got to say is well it's covid oh it's crazy

00:49:16.080 everything it's like you know it's like like we were saying like you can go for your rear end

00:49:19.440 somebody like oh man i'm sorry dude you know covid and yeah it's like coronavirus what so it's like

00:49:25.620 everybody can use that and not to downplay you know the disease but people can use coronavirus

00:49:30.360 right now as as a totally an excuse for anything oh i told her i didn't get an erection i was like

00:49:35.100 i got coronavirus exactly you know coronavirus my penis she's like just nervous about coronavirus

00:49:41.020 if i had somewhere else but it was a nice girl too actually man she fucking took care of him for

00:49:45.160 like two weeks hoping it would get better and it didn't i was like oh damn maybe it wasn't

00:49:49.860 coronavirus she brought you soup yeah it might just be erectile dysfunction yeah um so yeah it is

00:49:55.740 interesting to see how they haven't maybe maybe haven't picked up a lot of like or just haven't

00:50:01.920 grown their own business and maybe they have i don't know but you didn't feel like they were

00:50:04.940 no they haven't and they have grown and they've built and that was the thing about it like i was

00:50:09.260 i was content too and i said this i i knew i was probably going to make a change but i would have

00:50:14.800 been happy as well getting a really great offer from bellator and and and retiring there and doing

00:50:20.580 all that and maybe maybe that was true maybe maybe it was just a little bit of negotiation tactic but

00:50:25.580 there was part of me that that that said man i i i cared about those guys i cared i cared about

00:50:30.720 building that organization that that organization is not who they are without my fights with eddie

00:50:35.040 alvarez oh man benson henderson me losing to will brooks and then fight coming who was that pigskin

00:50:40.880 guy you lost to what was that guy's name pigskin no what was his nickname punch punch dog or something

00:50:46.640 pitbull pitbull pitbull yeah sorry i didn't know i didn't know who it was exactly did you feel bad did

00:50:53.960 you feel were you bummed that you didn't get to fight him again before you left no and that's that's the

00:50:58.200 beautiful thing about it i i've never really i'm not about because to me it's not the person and

00:51:03.420 trust me i there's no more animosity that i've ever had with any of my opponents than him because

00:51:08.740 he's made some baseless claims about me using peds and just this kind of silly stuff that has no

00:51:13.800 there's there's no he has a brother that does it like a stunt double or something like a twin brother

00:51:17.880 yeah for sure for sure and they're both they're both from brazil they if anything they

00:51:21.720 you know probably have dabble and it's like so i'm not really worried about it fucking papaya

00:51:28.180 yeah exactly so so we've had we had some you know our our interactions where we don't really like each

00:51:33.940 other but to me i'm like i don't need to get that one back i don't care the funny thing is i'm in a

00:51:38.040 much better position right now getting ready to fight i'm one i'm one degree of separation away

00:51:43.020 from fighting for the ufc title i will be ufc champion by july of 2021 so you think i'm worried about

00:51:48.680 his little self and how disgruntled he is he's not he's not happy about his contract he's not happy

00:51:53.960 about his promotion or where he's at or what he's doing he's just an unhappy person and he wanted to

00:52:00.180 throw shade at me because he has a scarcity mindset where i whereas i have an abundance mindset there's

00:52:05.080 and it's very important to distinguish the two a scarcity mindset says because you are having success

00:52:10.680 that that is going to take away from the success that i could possibly grab because there's a pie

00:52:15.000 there's a pie and there's only so much of it man there's an abundance of of money there's an

00:52:19.740 abundance of success there's an abundance of impact out there for you to grab and your success

00:52:23.620 does nothing to take away from my success that i'm allowed to have or able to have and

00:52:28.760 there's a lot of that's huge man and i've struggled with that in my own success like getting more

00:52:33.740 successful and then getting scared you know operating from a place of fear man it's it's very and it's it's

00:52:40.400 the it's the wounds of our past the the stories that we've told ourselves man i've told myself so

00:52:45.360 many stories inside my head that where i would just sabotage myself and give myself permission to

00:52:49.880 lose instead of permission to win permission to be successful you know i grew out of it after college

00:52:55.580 luckily but i just underperformed so much in college that i said man i gotta stop this i gotta figure

00:53:01.720 something out i gotta take extreme ownership of what's going on in between these years like you are what

00:53:06.580 you are and where you are because of what has gone into your mind and the stories and the and the

00:53:10.120 the myths and the the trends that you tell yourself over you know your 30 year life or 40 year life your

00:53:16.360 15 year old life whatever it may be and man you gotta you gotta kick that in the teeth here's a guy

00:53:22.800 right here who has a question right here hey mike and theo it's aaron from oklahoma city well this is a

00:53:31.460 question for both of you i guess theo you already have one but mike would you ever consider growing

00:53:37.040 a nebraska nick warmer damn he got that work on that bromide maybe hanging off the back it's nice

00:53:43.440 and nice and uh did he straighten that he may have straightened he also may have dyed it a little

00:53:47.640 which i don't mind what do you call it a nebraska that skunk dip i don't know what it is uh what's

00:53:52.780 that call you call it the nebraska nebraska or play the end of that for us again riley yes theo you

00:53:57.420 already have one but mike would you ever consider growing a nebraska neck warmer that's a neck warmer

00:54:04.900 baby good have you ever tried to uh you know to increase your flair by doing something wild like

00:54:10.200 that you ever do a rat tail or something i could see you at a rat tail maybe i could i could do a

00:54:13.420 rat tail now i i mean i haven't i haven't really i mean the i did have a haircut that was kind of

00:54:19.120 a little edgy you know when that movie the fury came out with brad pitt i don't know brad pitt where

00:54:23.940 he's a tank war he's the tank that picture do you mind rally uh he's the tank uh operator and he's

00:54:29.140 got like four other guys three other guys shia labeouf and some young guy and michael uh michael

00:54:34.280 sarah michael sarah michael sarah the skinny little white guy yeah no not him michael pena the like uh

00:54:40.240 the latino guy yeah he's hilarious yeah he's awesome greatest haircut of all time dude and you know he's

00:54:45.200 got freaking you know he's got plugs in in the front or something where he got a hair hair transplant

00:54:50.540 oh yeah i've had that line yeah i got it did you really yeah got some of the mullet taken out of

00:54:55.980 the back and put into the front bro does it ever fall out unprecedented i don't know i don't even

00:55:00.560 know if it ever even came in that's the problem they they your hairline's like your hairline's

00:55:04.440 perfect though right they put you to sleep and then they or they don't put you to sleep but they

00:55:08.140 take it out of the back and they put it into the front and so the robot uh no i have it do them

00:55:12.500 hand by hand let's have a fucking robot back there you know what i'm saying that's how i have a

00:55:16.620 fucking mustache don't don't record this right now because i can record it i have a mustache

00:55:22.720 because i thought about it man like i got a freaking receding hairline bad you could do it easy man it's

00:55:27.380 real easy process that's cool i thought about trying to find somebody locally that would uh do it pro

00:55:32.660 bono you know just to talk about i mean everybody's had it done there's there's a play there's we grow

00:55:37.520 hair.com oh i've seen the i've seen the billboard you see the billboards right we grow hair that

00:55:43.100 shit sounds vague i'm not trying to find a sharecropper i'm trying to find somebody

00:55:48.080 this is important for for our you know like our like you know 30 40 age demographic where it's

00:55:53.900 like man you know a lot of people got some got some hair like look at the one look at brad pitt

00:55:58.120 right there in his tuxedo man like look at that hairline that is absolutely perfect yeah go click

00:56:02.220 on that all right please he's from missouri man you know wow but but anyway so that was probably the

00:56:08.040 most uh that was probably the most kind of statement of a haircut i ever made is i kind of

00:56:14.420 did the fury for a little while till my receding hairline started creeping up too much and i was

00:56:17.980 like ah man it's not working anymore i gotta go with this faux hawk thing yeah faux hawk's good

00:56:22.200 though it's longer and i gotta get a haircut but so yeah so that's about as wild as you would go in

00:56:27.180 the hair world yeah i think so i'm gonna ask you let me ask you about um and sorry if riley seems

00:56:33.960 a little off riley just had his first kiss actually the other day kissed a girl for the first time

00:56:37.460 really what's her name man um are we maddie yeah okay you like her well let's just say i did

00:56:45.560 you did what something happened oh yeah uh last night i found out yeah that she kissed another guy

00:56:53.180 oh um way more than that oh gosh oh my god man i'm sorry dude i didn't know that and unfortunately

00:56:59.800 we don't have you on mic today either riley i'm sorry about that but man well you had a first kiss

00:57:04.820 yeah a long time ago it was it bro it was it be honest dog uh i don't i don't remember

00:57:16.460 oh come on brandy i think it was brandy with an eye oh yeah bro brandy with an eye always kiss

00:57:24.760 people dude brandy with an eye is the most missouri is that where you're from missouri yeah missouri

00:57:30.420 is the most missouri type of name brandy with an eye brandy with an eye lives close to the

00:57:35.920 interstate bro i know that brandy with an eye she used to uh she used to invite all the rich girls

00:57:40.720 into she used to invite the rich girls over and they'd ride bikes out and they'd get in fights with

00:57:45.540 the the other kids the poor kids my kind of girl brandy with an eye my first one was chrissy with an

00:57:53.580 eye chrissy hello chrissy with an eye would come out of the woodwork and her beat up mongoose like

00:57:57.100 what's up girl you're on the wrong side of the tracks christy with an eye damn so riley man it

00:58:06.040 fell apart huh yeah it did oh so how do you feel about it you all right are you um i'm i'm keeping

00:58:13.420 it together keeping it together that's good man well thanks for being here today man i didn't know

00:58:17.300 that that had happened and we'll discuss it next time um and sorry you had to be here to learn about

00:58:22.360 that news as well mike yeah what the heck man but it's not you man it's her you know it's definitely

00:58:27.460 her it's her loss man um here's a young fella right here it says post malone dude that could

00:58:34.240 be post malone gang gang this one's for mike i'm just wondering how long does it take to get that

00:58:39.900 freaking insanely ripped is it something that um it's always been with you or at one point when you

00:58:47.380 started to fight you know and do what you're doing in training did you notice it happening over time

00:58:52.320 and if so how long gang gang gang yeah you're the when i envision you being born that's what i envision

00:58:58.300 i envision you come out of the womb you turn around and then you start doing the ropes exercise with your

00:59:03.760 own umbilical cord yeah i like that i like that no i think that's pretty much how it happened uh no i uh

00:59:11.840 who got you into fitness i mean i just i it was a it was a it was a byproduct of what i have to do

00:59:18.620 you know and i i just truly believe and i and i get this all the time like people will see me

00:59:23.460 squatting heavy or bench pressing heavy or doing some dynamic stuff and people like oh my god i'm

00:59:28.000 my knees hurt just watching that or my back hurts just watching this and i just i feel for people

00:59:32.400 because i don't know what position they're in or what their background is or how much they have or

00:59:36.300 haven't worked out but i truly believe i've wrestled i wrestled for um 12 years or whatever

00:59:44.080 and now i've been fighting now for 11 and whatever it is 20 last 20 years i've been wrestling and then

00:59:48.980 now fighting and i have very few injuries and i think a lot of it has to do with i think there's a

00:59:55.420 genetic component there's a luck component of course i'm never gonna never gonna act like there isn't

01:00:00.320 but lifting weights heavy external force of adding weights and lifting heavy and bulletproofing your

01:00:08.000 body through strengthening conditioning has really made my body you know very very dense i think my

01:00:15.000 bone density is very very high and i get very few injuries because of strength training so i just loved

01:00:21.720 it and i realized if i can put put in the work in the weight room it's going to bulletproof my body

01:00:26.980 inside those wrestling matches inside those wrestling practice and now inside the mixed

01:00:30.280 martial arts world and so i've been doing it since college i mean college we lifted two three days a

01:00:34.380 week heavy hard intense and then we were wrestling six days a week so my body just became a machine but

01:00:40.160 you know to answer his question it takes me about 12 weeks you know um to get primed up to get

01:00:46.480 completely primed up you know to go from you know 10 but i never get above 10 body fat and that's one of

01:00:52.160 the things about mixed martial arts people like oh he walks around at 198 and cuts down to 155

01:00:56.960 or 190 and cuts down to 155 and it's like yeah but how fat is he how how chunky is he you know we can

01:01:02.300 all have a propensity to get chunky and get heavy but for me i keep i keep my weight around 182 to 187

01:01:09.540 max usually right around 183 to 185 um and 10 body fat you know because i just don't like to get

01:01:15.660 that far out of shape and then it takes me 12 weeks of discipline to shrink my body a little bit

01:01:20.820 obviously a lot of get rid of a lot of body fat or probably six percent get down to about four or five

01:01:26.480 six percent body fat lose a little bit of muscle and then get down to 155 damn dude i freaking i think

01:01:33.960 i ate 10 percent body fat last night honestly yeah so did i yeah good um when you're in uh when you're

01:01:41.840 in uh dubai right that's where the fight abu dhabi sorry when you're in abu dhabi and and it's getting

01:01:49.520 close to fight time did you have an inkling are you getting word from people there that both guys are

01:01:54.620 making the fight like are you is there a point where it starts to feel like okay i might actually

01:02:00.020 be a real substitute and then it goes from okay this is i'm just gonna be here yeah i mean i it

01:02:06.760 wasn't until the day before weigh-ins that my man that my manager even kind of asked you know and

01:02:11.000 then even then the ufc was essentially like well i would imagine you know by by the morning after fight

01:02:17.960 fight or the morning after weigh-ins the day at the morning of the fight by the time that

01:02:21.940 we get word that habib and gaichi both passed their covid test they're negative you know you

01:02:27.380 should be pretty good to go and then they were like well but actually like what if they get hurt

01:02:31.460 on the way to the arena it was one of those deals where i was essentially just the backup all the way

01:02:35.320 until those guys stepped into the cage wow at that point i you know had pizza for lunch because i mean

01:02:40.880 what was i gonna do like just continue to eat chicken and broccoli all the way till 9 p.m and no you

01:02:45.380 know at that point you kind of just look foolish like you're just kind of like hang out outside of the

01:02:48.640 ring like you're going like this yeah exactly exactly and it's one of those things too where

01:02:52.580 it's like it would be an even better story i also like of course we joked like with my manager my

01:02:57.940 manager longtime manager randall alleman was there who um good friends with but he also handles my

01:03:02.680 stuff so we were there and it was like maybe just you know go like have a celebratory beer or

01:03:07.120 celebratory you know have drink before this and be like well yeah but what if i get the call

01:03:11.840 joking and be like well it would kind of be a cool even better story great story even better story

01:03:15.800 got the call while you know they just poured a stella or something you know and i'm eating a

01:03:19.300 pizza chandler beat khabib after two my ties exactly you know like so i didn't end up having an

01:03:25.340 alcoholic beverage that day until after the fights were over whatever but it would have been we were

01:03:29.940 just joking like it would have been an even better story and who would you go sorry go ahead i was

01:03:34.280 saying and in some ways it would probably make me fight even better because i'd be like i got nothing

01:03:38.840 to lose for sure because i just had you know two my ties and uh and so the bar tab recede in your

01:03:44.740 in your shorts um who would you was there a rather where you're like if you started to think like who

01:03:50.980 would i rather fight i i my answer to that is i love i would love the idea of fighting both of them

01:03:57.260 but at that point you have to fight khabib just because he's the number one guy oh wow really yeah

01:04:02.360 because if you're gonna fight i mean yeah it would be better to have a 12-week training camp focus just

01:04:07.460 on habib obviously when you have the opportunity of a lifetime to you know beat an undefeated fighter

01:04:11.900 the best fighter in lightweight history and get the world title um but for me you got to take the

01:04:17.520 opportunities when you can they don't just hand out ufc you know title fights like it's nothing so

01:04:23.020 um for me it would have been habib just because i would have had the opportunity to capture the belt

01:04:28.240 that night uh and a fight with me and justin gate is going to happen just like i said the fight with

01:04:32.540 me and poya is going to happen these fights are going to happen but so if you had the opportunity

01:04:36.680 and i knew we all knew habib we didn't know he was going to retire that night

01:04:39.980 or at least say he's going to retire we don't know yet but i thought for sure he's going to

01:04:44.660 have one maybe two fights left in him so you want to i want to get that fight before he retires

01:04:49.340 i would not want to get that fight but i've read but but that's a different mindset man

01:04:53.900 now is when you're there and you're in that environment is there a level of royalty that

01:04:59.020 kind of proceeds and surrounds khabib that doesn't surround anybody else in a way

01:05:02.720 no i yeah i'm not i'm not really i'm not that you're thinking of but do you feel is there

01:05:08.700 anything like that in the air no i'm just wondering well he wasn't there that much to

01:05:11.960 be honest with you like i saw justin gaethje a couple times and his mom and dad were there

01:05:15.680 his brothers his brother looks just like him they're all from arizona they're kind of doing

01:05:18.720 their thing man me and justin gaethje are very similar man small town blue collar wrestling

01:05:24.540 families like that's it looked like my family walking around if we were in in abu dhabi at a

01:05:30.380 hotel somewhere so he was there he was present and he was seen a lot had a couple conversations

01:05:36.420 with him or his team or whatever khabib was nowhere to be found khabib had like his own

01:05:40.780 training facility he had his own hotel he had his own everything he showed up in armored cars and

01:05:47.000 motorcades and helicopters and all kinds of stuff so he is like royalty over there because it's

01:05:52.280 middle east it's close to russia he's he's uh muslim you know so he's he's like royalty so there

01:05:57.920 there is but for me as like a red white and blue blood in america i'm like this is silly man

01:06:02.620 you know it's like whatever you know so but you got to respect it now i don't i don't want to i

01:06:09.040 don't want that to come off like i don't respect him like i respect him a ton as a competitor inside

01:06:13.340 the cage what he's done his accomplishments plus winning his last fight after the loss of his father

01:06:18.160 and all that kind of stuff i respect him respect the heck out of him for that but for the most part

01:06:22.540 it was like that's just like all right bro and i don't know he showed up he looked like a skeleton

01:06:27.860 at weigh-ins he looked like it was it was questionable whether he even made weight

01:06:31.760 wow you know you're just like dude be a professional make the weight show up with your

01:06:37.280 chest puffed out and a smile on your face do your job yeah there's a video where it says it looks like

01:06:41.160 they didn't even check his weight kind of did you supposedly they did you know did you i mean

01:06:46.220 does that seem normal to you did it feel i mean i will say i will say daniel cormier brought this up

01:06:51.220 and it is true they at the hotel i had to step on the scale and i weighed 154.9 and uh then they

01:07:00.120 said okay you can get on the bus so if i was 155.2 or whatever there they might have been like no you

01:07:06.440 know you can't get on the bus until you cut the weight then again maybe habib was like i'm right

01:07:11.320 at 155.1 by the time i get over there i can float 0.1 maybe the scale it's a a lot of times your

01:07:16.400 balance scales you know those old school balance scales are a little bit more lenient than your

01:07:21.320 digital scale because the digital scale will tell you point boom whatever it is right the balance

01:07:25.920 scale all they have to do is have a little bit of daylight and you're technically in there so

01:07:29.960 there's almost like a point two swing yeah um but yeah i mean he stepped on the scale it was going up

01:07:35.400 they swiped it and but it's you know it's conspiracy theory yeah i mean it's it's man they've been doing

01:07:42.460 this for 26 27 years you know there's hasn't been many controversies so whatever it wasn't meant to

01:07:48.060 be for me to step inside the occasion i nor nor would i have if khabib didn't make weight at that

01:07:52.120 moment he would have got time to cut weight anyway so i wasn't worried about it um here's a question

01:07:57.820 right here from a young fella right here what up theo it's your boy brody from spartanburg south

01:08:03.040 carolina calling with a question for michael chandler how you keep your head held high after

01:08:08.020 ass whipping that's something i want to know gang baby love you love you too bro well i know it's

01:08:16.160 for michael but i'll tell you i remember when i was in school i've told this story before but they

01:08:20.720 some kid beat my ass right which is easy to do if i was somebody else i would beat my ass you know

01:08:26.500 what i'm saying bro so don't take a lot of clout out of it you know like easy dude i was it was easy

01:08:31.780 to beat my ass but uh but afterwards at school they made us stand in the hall me and the kid to beat

01:08:37.920 my ass and hold put our arms on each other's shoulders and we had to stand like that all

01:08:42.700 day in the hall so then like i ended up becoming friends with the guy he's still a friend of mine

01:08:47.840 today this kid brad castleman great guy no way um yeah and it wasn't that good about i let him i let

01:08:53.100 him hit me a couple first three or four times i let him hit me and then i fell down bro that was

01:08:57.680 my so you didn't get in trouble you just had to do that we had to do that that's cool dude that's

01:09:01.480 but it was interesting because by the end of the day we were friends dude you're like well we got to

01:09:04.800 say oh man what so what do you like to do for fun yeah yeah totally bro that was it right

01:09:09.060 like man like i know i hated you this morning but like dude i really hate brad i really hate joe

01:09:13.320 you know like yeah let's go fight joe man bro come over i'll invite you over this weekend i got a rich

01:09:19.660 kid coming over come over and help he's coming over in his real shiny yellow haro with the gyro

01:09:24.160 on the front pegs yeah and his duck head freaking shirt and shorts um what uh what that's a good

01:09:30.920 question though how do you keep how do you maintain some composure and keep your head up after a loss

01:09:35.500 man i think uh kind of like what we were talking earlier is it's it's all about the process too you

01:09:40.680 know if whenever you realize that the journey is really the process you know like the process is

01:09:45.800 the goal the journey is the goal realizing that you're going to have wins you're going to have

01:09:48.940 losses and i realized over the last couple years and it took me a while to realize this that every

01:09:54.440 single person that i've ever looked up to whether i know them or there's or or there's some sports

01:09:59.820 figures some icon i'm like man that person i respect them they all have losses in their past

01:10:04.300 they've all have ups they all have downs every single person you've ever looked up to who has

01:10:08.320 one has at one point or another been a failure failure of a competition failure a failure of

01:10:12.900 something so when you realize like my next fight i might lose i don't know but don't be afraid of the

01:10:18.500 loss don't be afraid of it but when i have lost for me it's the it's it's the beauty of it being the

01:10:25.940 most embarrassing one of the most embarrassing moments of your life because it's not like

01:10:29.220 you lost a baseball game it's not like you lost a football game and you just lost a fight

01:10:34.380 you know you just got bested by another individual who is getting their hand raised while you have to

01:10:39.200 hang your head or and and collect half a paycheck and go home and lick your wounds um but i think

01:10:45.380 it's just once again realizing that losses are part of the journey right you know lick your wounds

01:10:50.060 get around the most important people in your life be around the people that love you be around

01:10:54.260 the people that believe in you be be around the people that love you whether you win or lose make

01:10:58.640 you stay built up and then take notes on how you can get better how you can how you can become a

01:11:04.400 better man competitor woman whatever it may be wow man dude i wish you lived in my head bro that

01:11:12.180 would be helpful why we live in the same city now that's a good point dude that's close man

01:11:15.940 it's pretty close it's pretty close yeah it's definitely getting closer uh here's a question

01:11:20.500 right here that we have from a young man what up theo gang brother uh what up michael hope

01:11:25.800 you're doing well hope your brain works all right uh mine doesn't you know nine concussions and

01:11:31.580 whatnot but imagine you feel similar sometimes anyways i was wanting someone who's like just

01:11:36.920 getting into fighting and stuff and like wanting to have that ability of of of true self-defense not

01:11:42.260 just swinging and wailing um if all i'm doing is watching these videos right and not going to any

01:11:49.080 classes or anything like that what would you say is the number one thing to pay attention to some of

01:11:52.500 the takeaways that someone who is overall like a youtube type learner how can what can i do to

01:11:58.360 take away from from actual legitimate professional fights that would help me if i were to get in some

01:12:04.700 sort of you know scrapple dapple out here on these streets because it gets tough out here in the

01:12:09.440 central east sometimes amen bro you know so uh yeah man just wondering what some of that advice might

01:12:15.100 be i love what you guys do keep it up theo you the man gang gang brother let's keep rolling

01:12:21.100 amen let's keep rolling man that's a good question man because a lot of net bangers out there they

01:12:25.340 call them on foods gone wild they call them net bangers and it's just mean like people that are

01:12:29.080 learned just doing stuff only on the net not in real time but that's a great question man

01:12:33.800 nine concussions damn bro you fucking thinking with a rubik's cube at that point you know no offense

01:12:40.260 bud but um but yeah that's a great question michael what do you got yeah i mean uh there's a lot of

01:12:46.200 people and you've talked about there's a lot of people learning things through youtube these days but i mean

01:12:49.120 when are you when you're watching fights whether it's you know hopefully it's professional fights

01:12:52.980 you know so you're you're learning from professionals if you will um man defense is underrated you know

01:13:00.800 keep your hands up uh learning watch watch how in a fight people use the distance and the timing

01:13:06.480 a lot of times it's not necessarily the biggest punch that lands the one that they see coming it's the

01:13:13.060 one that they don't see coming because you timed it perfectly yeah so when you watch some of these

01:13:16.480 crazy knockouts where a guy's looking looking at you this way expecting you to throw that jab

01:13:20.840 but the hook comes here and hits them in the in the in the chin from uh almost a side the side you

01:13:27.220 know the tit the distance the timing defense um and then the space between the two the spatial

01:13:35.020 awareness of of the the fighters whether they're uh going in for a takedown and then throwing an

01:13:40.240 uppercut or looking like they're gonna throw a head strike and then go for the takedown you know i

01:13:45.620 mean obviously i don't know if my man's looking to get into mixed martial arts fighting and

01:13:48.940 professional rings or if he's just like he said you know in the streets i guess he was saying in

01:13:53.060 the streets just have a little bit of uh self-defense but can you learn from youtube or do you have to

01:13:57.520 get out there and practice i think fighting you need to be that's something you need to be there in

01:14:02.340 the physical like in in person i would say you know like obviously you know you can't wash some

01:14:08.040 shit on your phone and then go fight i mean it's gonna be harder it is i mean i mean obviously

01:14:11.920 there's something to be said for fighters like myself who uh who i watch film and then i can like

01:14:17.240 almost learn through osmosis and say man okay in my next sparring session i'm gonna try this but

01:14:21.940 without that sparring session it was just you know and it's also real time it's fast the craziest thing

01:14:27.940 about fighting is it's just so fast you're constantly a reaction time and you only get that

01:14:33.320 reaction time through 10 000 hours of repetition and getting after it so you got to be there there in

01:14:38.140 the physical form i don't know if they're in the central east if his if his mma gyms are open now

01:14:42.200 because of the pandemic but man get somewhere and get some drills in you know in america we have

01:14:47.440 sometimes traditions that you know are half half-handed or haphazard and old-fashioned

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01:16:30.540 like the fight between dustin and uh connor supposed to happen right um is there a preference and i watched

01:16:37.580 you the other day you were talking about like a top 10 guys and kind of rating the top 10 just just

01:16:42.080 sharing your thoughts on them you know and i thought i was really real eloquent about it and

01:16:46.140 shared some nice thoughts about all the guys um um is there like a fight that you really want is

01:16:51.360 there a fight that you does it change day to day week to week like a month ago if i'd have asked you

01:16:57.440 was it a different person than today so a month ago if you would ask me i would have said you know

01:17:01.720 it's tony ferguson um but then after habib was talking about retiring and then justin gates he was

01:17:07.420 talking about fighting within six to eight weeks and then also connor and poirier were talking about

01:17:12.060 fighting 170 dana white has made it very clear if those guys are fighting 170 they're not going to

01:17:16.520 be you know they obviously aren't going to be getting a title shot you know anytime soon um as soon as

01:17:22.960 habib retired you know i was like hey man i'll fight justin gaethje next week for the title six

01:17:28.920 weeks from now november december fuck i'll find him at the breakfast buffet yeah i'll find him next

01:17:32.620 tomorrow morning before the plane takes off you know like let's just keep the keep the octagon set up

01:17:36.940 let's go uh you know so so that was then so at that point you're that you're like yeah

01:17:42.580 so khabib's retired that kind of changed things it changed things and i said hey i'll fight i'll fight

01:17:47.240 dustin or i'll fight tony or gaethje for you know whether it's a number one contender spot or whether

01:17:54.480 it's for the title because you had connor and and poirier talking about fighting 170 so they were almost

01:17:59.020 out of the discussion still right now you have connor and poirier looks like it's almost done

01:18:04.960 it looks like they're gonna be fighting at 155 so those two are booked you got gaethje who just

01:18:09.300 fought so chances are he might want a little bit of time off so i think tony ferguson i say tony

01:18:15.300 ferguson for two reasons number one he makes the most sense because he's been the guy who sat out

01:18:19.660 the longest and secondly if i if i do think khabib is coming back i would say he's beaten connor khabib

01:18:26.620 has beaten connor he's beaten poirier he's beaten gaethje now and he the only fight left out there for

01:18:32.800 him was the ferguson fight but if i beat ferguson i leapfrogged ferguson and now you get chandler

01:18:37.740 khabib for his 30 and 0 fight or 29 and 1 fight instead of tony ferguson so that kind of gives me

01:18:45.540 the best option to to win leapfrog him fight a top five guy and be the most appealing matchup the

01:18:52.180 most challenging matchup for habita magamadov wow was it disappointing um when and have you talked to

01:19:00.000 tony about it you guys had some exchange about it right we didn't exchange a little bit um and

01:19:03.660 then even he he commented on one of my instagram posts like train hard see you soon you know yeah

01:19:09.020 so he's such a unique guy he's such like a yeah he's such a he is anomaly kind he's an anomaly he's

01:19:15.300 a unique guy you don't know you don't know you don't know what he's gonna say and then you also

01:19:18.740 don't know what he's gonna do inside that cage you know so it's wild and it's just like i think it's a

01:19:23.560 perfect it's it's a fight that scares me you know so it's a fight that's great you know it's great for

01:19:27.560 me it's great for great introduction for me so he's a top five guy he's a scary guy he was 12 and

01:19:32.320 oh before he was on a 12 fight win streak before he lost his last fight we can't forget that like

01:19:36.680 he's still one of the most dangerous guys in the division definitely the most unpredictable guy and

01:19:40.480 how quickly that gets forgotten after the gaethje fight so quick isn't a great i mean how quickly

01:19:44.980 suddenly he's like he seems like there's this uh you know yeah he's not the same guy exactly and

01:19:51.340 granted he took a lot of damage in that fight but still man like we all take damage you know we all

01:19:55.920 win or lose we take damage you know uh so it's just it is a very much and that's the hardest thing

01:20:03.320 about it but i think it's also the most beautiful thing about it because the some of the fans do

01:20:07.200 realize what us fighters have to go through like that our head is on the chopping block essentially

01:20:10.660 every single time we fight where it's like man it's it's a what have you done for me lately business

01:20:15.180 but going back to like you were talking about poirier it's like it's cool to see his he's he's become a

01:20:20.740 hero win or lose he's been one of those guys who are going to come in if he wins people love him

01:20:24.560 if he loses people are rooting for him wanting to pick himself back up and get back in the win

01:20:28.420 column and i looked at myself that kind of same way i'm gonna i'm gonna come into the ufc no matter

01:20:32.360 what i might have you know five fights left in me 12 fights left in me but either way there's a bunch

01:20:36.760 of big fights out there for me to just have a blast to be put on this you know awesome platform

01:20:40.820 who knows i could go 500 the next six fights i could go eight no my next eight fights i could win

01:20:46.460 the title and hold it for 10 years i don't know you know so we'll see it's wild man it's crazy

01:20:51.980 and and it's so it's amazing really that 155 is i mean it's really almost the bet i mean it's

01:20:58.800 is there any division that has that much that many individual guys who have so much

01:21:04.960 just like you're saying they can all fight they could all stay in that in the top 10 for the next

01:21:09.920 five ten years yeah i i don't think so not not when it comes to divisions you know you got your

01:21:14.620 individual guys and then you got a guy like israel adesanya who's who fights at 185 now he's going up

01:21:19.400 to fight for the title at 205 and john jones just left 205 went to heavyweight as adesanya was

01:21:24.060 talking about going up to heavyweight so that right there kind of shows you that there's not a ton of

01:21:27.060 depth in some of these and i don't say that like they're still it's sometimes the depth that sometimes

01:21:33.460 it looks like there's a lack of depth because the champion has beaten all the one number one

01:21:38.740 contenders similar to like kind of how khabib has done but jones too jones there was nobody left

01:21:42.720 from really he was fighting guys two and three times exactly but but you look at all the guys that jones

01:21:46.680 fought and if jones if we take jones out of the picture and he retired tomorrow like khabib did

01:21:50.420 you immediately start looking at dominic reyes and john levhovich and um the guy with the thor hammer

01:21:57.540 on his chest he fights this weekend uh santos tiago santos you know um just a ton of big name guys you

01:22:05.940 know so it's big name guys but they looked not that great against a guy like john jones you know

01:22:10.800 so alexander gustafson if you yeah i love him exactly so but man look at the light look at the

01:22:16.220 lightweight division connor is the anchor he's the biggest name obviously you got me the new guy who

01:22:21.720 came in who came in right at the right time tony ferguson who's a household name poirier who's a

01:22:25.720 household name justin gaethje who is a household name and i mean you've gotten thrown in i mean you

01:22:30.680 suddenly like does it feel a lot different being michael chandler two months ago who was uh in just you

01:22:38.960 know in the not the xfl because it's certainly a lot bigger than that that's a shitty comparison but

01:22:44.160 it's it's similar i mean it's it's not it's not the nfl you know right yeah being adjacent right

01:22:50.040 being ufc adjacent to suddenly i mean this is you know it's it's why i mean it's definitely like

01:22:56.740 it's like put you in a star spot in a way you know it is it's cool and and it and a lot of it or some

01:23:02.900 of it had to do with the way that i came over and and the i guess even even i did bruce buffer's

01:23:08.800 podcast and he's like hey he's like michael you know exactly it's time podcast bruce buffer was

01:23:13.420 like hey you know i've been with the ufc now for 25 years and i'm hard pressed to rack in my brain

01:23:17.360 trying to think of another free agent that came over and got this much splash and this much

01:23:20.720 you know momentum and part of that is great but part of that also you know uh kind of exposes you

01:23:27.220 to some hate too because people like who's this guy think he is man why is the ufc why are they

01:23:31.360 force feeding us mike this michael chandler guy who's this pretty boy yeah exactly well that's part of

01:23:35.100 it too they're like this guy doesn't look who's this lifeguard i read one comment who's this life

01:23:40.220 guard lifeguard exactly that's i'm like dang man i know but it's like do you even know cpr honestly

01:23:45.500 no i don't unbelievable exactly man i can't even swim no it's like you know but the good thing is i

01:23:53.840 will get into the octagon soon and people will realize okay he's not just a bodyguard lifeguard

01:23:58.700 looking dude whatever and bodybuilder forget someone called me a fitness model because i you know

01:24:02.780 the ufc took some photos of me on the beach and i'm like what am i supposed to do man i'm out here

01:24:06.080 on fight island i'm probably not gonna fight let me do something you know like uh so it's one of

01:24:11.000 them deals where you know it'll just do a little bit of research look up my fights on youtube yeah

01:24:16.400 i've lost but i've also won i've won in dominant fashion you'll just see you'll see the passion that

01:24:21.260 that i bring to the cage and being bring to that and i will bring to the octagon so it's uh because

01:24:26.840 it feels much bigger a lot of people this is their first introduction to your name exactly so it does

01:24:30.860 and it does feel much bigger it does you know the the numbers are growing the the notoriety is

01:24:36.260 growing and in a lot of ways it inspires me and motivates me to to be better to to work even harder

01:24:41.900 to cool to build even more you know because like i said it wasn't enough for me to just put on the

01:24:46.800 ufc gloves and put on the ufc fight kit and take the photos in front of the ufc green screen and get

01:24:52.380 on the ufc broadcast like man i want to get inside that octagon and i want to fight and i want to prove

01:24:57.160 not prove i want to show the people who i am win lose or draw that's that's going to take care of

01:25:03.120 itself yeah well but the passion that i bring to the k to the octagon the preparation and the manner

01:25:08.680 in which i prepare myself is is all going to stay the same if if not be even more increased right now

01:25:14.620 and i'm excited for the opportunity how big is that white chair there and uh and uh in um abu dhabi

01:25:21.260 the white chair at the yeah that big white chair at the ufc thing and then like a big white chair out

01:25:26.120 there that people were sitting in in the w at the um at the hotel in abu dhabi yeah at the ufc ring

01:25:31.860 at the ring out there didn't have like a i didn't see a white chair you didn't uh i was just seeing

01:25:35.460 pictures of people sitting in one um did you see the picture was it like a wooden white chair on the

01:25:40.640 beach on the beach yeah it looks real big it is big it is it is it's really big and it's really deep

01:25:45.940 because i was like trying to lean back and i couldn't i got short legs don't tell anybody i got

01:25:50.560 some short legs i mean i've watched a lot of hours of footage of you i got some freaking short legs

01:25:55.160 you can tell they're not extremely long but yeah me i mean we have we have a big couch in my house

01:25:59.480 too and i was like gosh dang i hate these long couches man because if i get my my low back up

01:26:04.140 against the back of the couch my little feet dangle like you know like you're waiting for

01:26:09.020 christmas morning yeah i'm like oh i'm so excited mom and dad you know um is there a fighter you think

01:26:14.840 that that would that doesn't want to fight you in that in that top group i will say for a lot of guys

01:26:19.420 it's risky because you're that new element it's like and you're coming from a different place where i mean

01:26:25.040 i'm sure all the guys are familiar with you for sure but it's not what they've been looking at it's

01:26:28.860 not their you know when they're looking at their top 10 it's not what they've been looking at the

01:26:31.800 problem with mixed martial arts is not the problem it's just the nature of mixed martial arts is

01:26:36.760 everybody's tough to some degree then there's some really then there's some really really tough guys

01:26:42.820 who don't have that big of names and then there's some really really big names who aren't that tough

01:26:47.720 so there's this kind of paradigm shift between the two polar opposites of you know like a guy like

01:26:54.400 conor mcgregor his i would say his name is bigger than his fight skills but his fight skills are way

01:27:00.240 up there but his name is way bigger just because he's such a big superstar right but then he got a

01:27:04.480 guy like myself who my fight skills much much supersede my my my name status in the game because i've

01:27:13.500 been outside the ufc for so long and that's not me comparing my skill against conor i think we match

01:27:18.580 up well together whatever but conor or uh you know poirier and ferguson were both offered me

01:27:25.080 offered to fight me october 24th they both turned it down for their different reasons and you know

01:27:29.900 some you know some they both brought up money or they both brought up don't whether it's timeline or

01:27:35.500 maybe they wanted to fight each other they talked about you know standing up for each other and then

01:27:38.860 and then poirier got the conor fight or whatever so it was all an interesting thing but i think i'm a

01:27:44.700 dark horse of the division because people don't really want to fight me because there's not not a

01:27:48.800 lot of upside to fighting me you know you could fight it you could fight another guy in the top 10

01:27:53.180 who's in the ufc who is a household name like i say a charles all charles olivera he's on a long

01:27:58.060 fight yeah he's good he's got some wins he's been in the ufc would you fight him

01:28:02.120 i would fight anybody right but when i already have the opportunity to fight a top five guy and i've

01:28:08.200 been told i was going to get a top five guy right away poirier or ferguson like why would i ever

01:28:12.640 think about and that was the problem too right the khabib's training partner freaking everybody

01:28:19.060 wanted me to fight him because his because his opponent rafael dosanos got coveted and fell off

01:28:23.720 the card so everybody was like oh yeah i'm like why am i gonna fight number 12 right when i already

01:28:27.580 basically have a name on a contract that's in the top five i'm gonna get a top five guy right away i'm

01:28:33.240 sorry if that makes people feel a certain way i'm sorry if the fans think that i'm entitled or i'm sorry if

01:28:38.040 the fans think that i you know don't deserve it maybe i do maybe i don't it's the ufc's decision

01:28:43.680 let me step into the cage let me freaking figure it out but whipped or let me prove to you guys that i

01:28:48.200 deserve to be in top five either way we'll know pretty soon man a lot of you just gotta wait to

01:28:52.680 get in there every time huh yeah man well that's the problem that's the problem with mixed martial arts

01:28:57.260 man is wrestling was great because if i lost it was 48 hours 72 hours for three four days until i got to

01:29:04.500 get back into the win column and get a win if i wanted you know if i if i had the opportunity

01:29:08.180 mixed martial arts man if i lose it takes me four or five six months to get a win and that's why

01:29:13.580 that time between fights and that's why i i went into a hole man i lost i lost three fights in a row

01:29:19.580 688 days without a win back when i first i've lost my first fight ever to eddie alvarez very close razor

01:29:26.660 razor thin split decision lost my next two fights because i just wasn't prepared mentally to lose a and then

01:29:34.080 when i did lose it took me so long to get in to get to my next competition that i self-sabotized or or

01:29:40.660 didn't build myself up enough and told myself the lies that i wasn't as good as i thought i was and

01:29:46.160 my doubters were correct and all that kind of stuff um it's not like journey to come back from because

01:29:51.540 especially when that's your first fight the first fight that first fight that i lost and it was just

01:29:55.560 like man i can't can't i'm not who i thought i was they were they were right the naysayers were right

01:30:01.140 the media who didn't believe in me was right you know and then i just lost three and that you know

01:30:05.700 someday when i write a book it'll be called 688 days talking about you know and eddie alvarez is a

01:30:10.860 gangster is there a guy god he's such a dude when you're watching he reminds he reminds me like the

01:30:16.600 greatest guy to like i don't know what he reminds me of is there a guy out there when you're fighting

01:30:23.160 them when they who's the craziest look in the eye person you've ever seen and it doesn't have

01:30:28.220 nothing to do with their fighting skills or anything but who have you ever gotten in the

01:30:30.760 ring with and you're like jesus christ this guy is missing a little bit of something uh for me

01:30:36.720 uh i think there's there's this guy named dave rickles who uh i fought twice who's uh he he had a

01:30:44.040 he has a really pretty good career he actually went over to bare knuckle bare knuckle fighting so

01:30:47.940 that'll show you wow he's you know you got to have kind of have a screw loose to go to that place

01:30:51.740 and fight freaking bare knuckle right yeah um but man he was just he had this look in his eyes he was a

01:30:56.480 little nuts he was a little crazy he was he's the kind of guy who would carry like he was caveman

01:31:00.540 was his his uh his name so he'd wear a barney rubble flintstones thing to the cage and carry a

01:31:05.900 big old club like barney flintstone one time they they wheeled him out in a coffin he opened himself

01:31:11.260 up pulled himself out of the coffin and got out there like he was a true showman but he was also

01:31:15.000 kind of a little bit nuts you know um he was he was probably one of the craziest guys i ever fought

01:31:19.980 do you is there more are you noticing over the time more of that wrestling kind of flair get

01:31:25.320 into uh fighting as well or has it gotten less as your career has gotten into bigger fights and

01:31:32.500 you know more higher purse fights and stuff and you you know just more professional is there more

01:31:37.960 of that at a lower level or do you think there's just more of that coming into the sport everywhere

01:31:41.860 i think i think there was a i think there was the conor mcgregor conor mcgregor era um that said

01:31:48.420 okay i need a trash talk i need gucci sunglasses i need gucci flip-flops i need a

01:31:53.680 uh real or fake good looking watch i don't care if it's fake i just want people to think i got

01:31:59.140 money i gotta talk i gotta wear wear certain things i think conor came in and it worked for

01:32:05.700 conor conor mcgregor is an anomaly he is great on the mic he is well read he's well well rehearsed

01:32:12.280 you're crazy if you don't think that a lot of the stuff conor has said on the on this microphone

01:32:16.040 wasn't rehearsed in the back in you know in in in his room before he's going to bed at night he's

01:32:22.280 just rehearsing different things and so i think when i first got in the sport there was almost

01:32:26.460 none of it then conor came in i think a lot of people started you know trying to look high class

01:32:32.480 nice cars and this that and the other thing which that's also just instagram models there's so many

01:32:37.000 of them out there so we're also in the age of instagram instagram but i also think the tide is now

01:32:41.640 shifting towards the respectful honorable warriors i mean look at our division i mean like poirier is

01:32:48.020 one of the most respectable guys ever conor punched a guy punched an old man in a in an irish whiskey

01:32:54.260 bar and then like his next fight was like he apologized and he he had his hair slicked back

01:32:58.840 beat up cowboy serroney but it was a nice he he's trying to play the respectable card realizing like man

01:33:04.280 i don't want to keep carrying around this heaviness it's it's a lot of heaviness to have a lot of

01:33:08.460 animosity in your life you know man like you you can have certain spats with people like if you're

01:33:13.420 not on good terms with people man like you don't need enemies in life yeah it sucks just so for

01:33:17.820 anybody who's listening right now if you got toxic people in your life now imagine taking that and

01:33:22.460 having a toxic relationship between you and the guy that you're fighting how how would you perform when

01:33:27.200 you have that some people do well with it some people do really bad with it i personally do really

01:33:30.900 bad with it bellator tried to build up this big animosity thing between me and pitbull and i'm not

01:33:35.200 saying i lost because of it but i didn't feel myself going into that fight you know so to answer

01:33:40.580 your question i think the sport is moving towards the more respectable and i'll tell you right now

01:33:44.460 had a conversation with dana white on fight island he told me hey kid to keep doing exactly what you're

01:33:49.520 doing we're getting a ton of great feedback from the ufc staff from the ufc fans from all the social

01:33:55.080 media pages from all the content all the stuff like people are you are resonating with the fan base with

01:34:00.400 the audience and i'm the kind of guy where i'm just going to be respectful i'm i'm gonna hey i

01:34:05.020 have honor in the sport integrity in my life high character high reputation and it's always worked out

01:34:10.340 well for me pretty you know could i have sold some more tickets and made some more money by you know

01:34:13.900 cussing spitting fighting a little bit more maybe but i wouldn't have felt better wouldn't have maybe

01:34:18.000 not yeah exactly exactly maybe not let's get this question right here man that might be about to

01:34:22.960 finish up what do we have here riley what's up theo what's up michael this is quincy coming at you

01:34:29.660 from the great state of texas um my question for michael chandler being uh just lay out for me

01:34:35.100 what your dream career in the ufc is um when a lot of guys get here they think you know hey i want

01:34:41.120 the money fights you know i want to do the connor gig or you know i just want to chase glory i just

01:34:45.940 want a legacy i want a name you know i want to know what that championship so just lay out what's

01:34:50.740 your ideal career with the ufc and where do you see it going gang gang bro yeah because that belt's

01:34:56.280 back in play now man it is that's a good question man because it's it's good because it's it's like

01:35:00.620 what's what's the philosophy of of why i'd made the decision you know just just to give a little

01:35:04.940 context i left i left the relative uh the relative surety of easier fights and good money in bellator

01:35:13.140 good contract in bellator comfortability of being the big fish little pond and being kind of the

01:35:18.320 poster boy for an organization to essentially come over to the ufc ask to get thrown to the sharks

01:35:23.680 thrown to the wolves right away and see what happens um so to answer that question i think

01:35:27.740 a guy like gaethje or tony ferguson fighting and showing the fans who i am when when that fight

01:35:36.420 fight the way exactly the way that i fight prove to the fans okay this guy's here to stay this guy's

01:35:41.460 a legit contender for the lightweight belt and then fight for the belt whether it's habib or whether

01:35:46.900 it's connor poirier whether it's whether i'm the number one contender after beating one of those guys

01:35:51.740 and then connor poirier is the number one contender we fight for the title sometime middle of 2021 and

01:35:57.180 then uh and then after that just defend the belt and get the big fights because i think and a crown

01:36:03.660 they should put a crown on you guys at some sweet man crown would be cool you know or like a medal

01:36:07.720 you know like a like an olympic gold medal you know crown would be crown would be cool but keep going

01:36:12.360 sorry oh no but then you'll get a crown hopefully and then uh and then uh defend the belt a few times

01:36:17.940 defend the belt a few times and then for me i don't say get the big fights just for the money

01:36:22.900 but you get the big fights because that's how you get the attention you know it's like the it's like

01:36:26.180 the gary v approach of capturing as much attention as possible if you don't have people's attention or you

01:36:31.780 can't get people's attention they can't they won't pay attention to you and they won't you know

01:36:36.320 life is all about who knows you who trusts you and then who's going to to buy what you're selling

01:36:42.720 not just money wise not just buying products but buy what you're selling like what kind of

01:36:47.360 motivation are you selling people what kind of character are you selling people what kind of

01:36:51.960 what kind of theos are you are you selling to the people so that you can reach the masses and for me

01:36:56.900 it's all about touching as many people as i possibly can through this platform that i've been given

01:37:00.680 touching every walk of life every corner of the globe hopefully and uh so winning the world title

01:37:07.180 and then getting big fights either defending the belt or you know bmf belt or the big

01:37:12.540 you know the big fights with the big name guys to get as much attention and eyeballs on me not for

01:37:18.540 the you know not for the ego of it but for the platform of it yeah that platform yeah that's a

01:37:24.100 good point you know once people know you then you can do stuff with it yeah i mean that's and that's

01:37:28.180 really what it is because it's it's a catch-22 and it's like oh he just did that for attention and

01:37:32.320 it's like yeah as long as you don't ever sacrifice your morals or your character it's okay to do things

01:37:36.660 for attention you know like i came over to the ufc essentially for attention you know i came over to the

01:37:41.340 ufc for competition competition and attention those are two things that i get from the ufc that i'm

01:37:46.420 that i couldn't not that i wasn't getting a bellator but i get more in the ufc so it's okay

01:37:51.480 to want more attention especially if you've done things to earn it you know was there a time

01:37:56.280 previously you were going to come to the ufc and it didn't work out or was there how long did this

01:37:59.840 i mean how long is this whole combo going on is it one of those ongoing conversations for like a

01:38:03.960 decade what is it like so it's one of those it's one of those deals where i never actually became a

01:38:07.360 free agent there was some reports out there that chandler's a free agent he's you know he's gonna

01:38:11.340 you know but i ever actually you know two years ago and four years ago was on the last fight on

01:38:15.620 my contract ended up re-signing with bellator with the one fight left on my contract so i was

01:38:19.260 never a free agent until august of of uh 2020 and uh it just seemed like the right time this time

01:38:27.140 back then because it's also it also depended on what the ufc lightweight division looked like too

01:38:32.040 you know two years ago the landscape looked a lot different you had habib as the champion

01:38:36.560 you had connor off doing 100 million dollar fights with floyd mayweather he could come back

01:38:42.140 leapfrog me whenever you had poirier coming in you one or one of those guys had an interim title two

01:38:48.660 years ago it was either tony or it wasn't poirier because i think poet poirier was after that but

01:38:52.840 maybe it was tony i think tony had an interim title habib had the title habib wasn't coming back

01:38:58.300 necessarily so it was just a weird time opera it was a weird time for me to come in

01:39:02.540 now it exactly what we thought now it's perfect two years later i'm coming in at this time which

01:39:07.520 couldn't have been even more so two years ago and i said this to dana when i spoke to him i said listen

01:39:11.500 two years ago four years ago i wouldn't have been the guy that you needed to be to come in and be

01:39:16.240 the champion and be the superstar of this division and i truly believe that i'm going to be that i

01:39:20.040 don't say that in a in a cocky i don't say that in a cocky way i just believe like i want you got

01:39:24.960 to believe i just believe that that's that's what's going to happen and and maybe there's gonna be

01:39:29.280 some people that laugh at me i fall flat on my face and that's fine but at least i find out

01:39:32.120 you know that's how i feel in my heart right now and you can't you can't knock a man for how he

01:39:36.600 feels in his heart you know a man who hitches his dream to a star that's the only way you can go out

01:39:41.400 and create create impact in your life and do amazing things so that's what i'm doing and man it's been

01:39:46.820 uh it's been cool but i never became a free agent until just this year and it just never seemed like

01:39:51.840 the right time to become a free agent until this year damn so it worked out perfect well i'm inspired

01:39:57.420 how do you feel riley i loved every minute of it come on riley i like that man yeah you're great

01:40:03.500 thanks man did it make you feel better about the girl yeah hey there are so many fish in the sea man

01:40:08.640 i didn't meet my wife till i was like 27 years old yeah where'd you meet her at dude that's a funny

01:40:15.900 story crazy story actually this tooth right here chipped it like broke it in half and in college

01:40:22.560 my buddy justin cole jumped off the side of the pool jumped on me and i bit it down broke it but i told

01:40:28.060 them that i did it in wrestling so they sent me to this mizzou a casual move that i know they sent it

01:40:32.680 to my yeah come on dude they sent it to the sent me to the mizzou dentist the guy who did all the

01:40:38.240 dentist stuff his name was kent willett i knew who he was because he was a bible study leader of my

01:40:42.400 bible study leader he got a great great uh reputation in town and i was looking at these

01:40:46.520 pictures of him i'm like man who's just who's this cute little brunette girl and all these family

01:40:50.100 pictures i mean it must be his daughter and he's awesome i like him and i don't even know him if

01:40:54.760 she's half as good as she must be by being his daughter he must you know she must be awesome

01:40:59.560 he fixes my tooth i don't say anything but i start looking her up on facebook and just freaking

01:41:03.660 fall in love with her yeah i've been there before yeah right and then a couple couple weeks later i

01:41:09.080 joined a bible study and they start talking about this brie willett girl and that was her name

01:41:12.340 brie willett i'm like man that's that's that freaking girl man like i love that girl and

01:41:16.980 and now i hear them talking i'm just like kind of listening i'm like oh so she goes to school here

01:41:21.000 like what is she cool what's it what path does she take to walk exactly yeah no well she wasn't in

01:41:26.340 the town she was she was out of town you know she was a couple hours away in indiana but luckily

01:41:30.760 through facebook i think i friend requested her she said yes because i had i had some friends

01:41:35.720 that she respected and we're like well if he's friends with these guys he must be all right

01:41:39.520 ends up being five years later till i finally freaking send her a facebook message i'm like

01:41:45.080 hey how are things like acted kind of acted like i knew her and she you know she uh she you know

01:41:51.500 responded we talked for a couple months she said hey i'm i'm doing residencies or i'm applying for

01:41:56.560 residencies i'm getting off here here's my email so we emailed back and forth for almost two years

01:42:00.060 she would she would wait like four five six months to respond to me i would email her and she wait

01:42:04.800 freaking three months to respond to me and i'd email her right away she wait two months to respond to me

01:42:09.120 you're like we're getting closer just dangled me 60 days for two years you know and then finally i

01:42:14.380 wore her down enough she got coffee with me and then we fell in love right there january 24th 2013

01:42:18.820 and called this coffee in columbia missouri and you met her the other night yeah beautiful lady man

01:42:23.560 we had a nice time i came over for the um just to watch some of the election and you know it was a

01:42:27.820 nice time man yeah it was fun man and then uh took some to go plate i wish i had taken a bigger one

01:42:32.480 yeah dude you should have man we still got like six pounds of brisket i was thinking i was like

01:42:36.360 somebody's like you're gonna take it to go plate i'm like yes they only got three people living

01:42:40.920 here yeah you can't eat all of this two adults and a four-year-old exactly i was going out of town

01:42:45.320 yeah dude i'm glad you took some that was fun if you want something that was fun man um yeah that's

01:42:51.220 like my that must yeah my whole thing is like oh yeah i'll send girls like dms i'll be like hey did

01:42:55.500 i see you at the grocery and then they're like i live in moscow and i'm like well yeah i was there

01:43:02.540 yeah my bad my bad but i'll send those i must have been on my friend's facetime he was walking

01:43:08.520 through the grocery i saw you in the background his name is vladimir yeah yeah yeah that's fucking

01:43:15.260 great vladimir um that's all i got riley any questions you want me to ask for you

01:43:20.500 all right michael chandler man dude it's it's it's a pleasure to watch your ride man and thank you

01:43:28.140 so much for coming and joining us today man thanks for having me it's fun yeah

01:43:31.420 now i'm just floating on the breeze and i feel i'm falling like these leaves i must be

01:43:38.800 cornerstone

01:43:41.000 oh but when i reach that ground i'll share this peace of mind i found i can feel it

01:43:49.740 in my bones but it's gonna take a little time for me to set that parking brake and let myself

01:44:03.060 shine that light on me

01:44:08.160 i'll sit and tell you my stories

01:44:13.840 shine on me

01:44:18.840 and i will find a song i will sing it just for you

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