This Past Weekend with Theo Von - E330 Mid-Sized Animal Control Man

00:00:00.720 Today's guest is an outdoorsman and indoorsman, hell if the animals have gotten indoors.

00:00:08.040 And he is, well he's a mid-sized animal control man.

00:00:14.500 And he can handle anything from, you know, I'm going to go on from mouse to bobcat style.

00:00:19.800 That includes woodpecker, flying squirrel, deer, hornet beaver, coyote, skunk, bats, and more.

00:00:30.260 That's this man.

00:00:32.140 His company is titled Hawk Predator and Wildlife Control.

00:00:37.920 He has been in the game for a while since he was a child and animals were bothering him.

00:00:43.840 And now he bothers them.

00:00:45.960 He's the dog, the bounty hunter of mid-sized animals.

00:00:52.040 Animals.

00:00:53.260 Ladies and gentlemen, Mr. Marty Voyers.

00:01:00.000 Light on me

00:01:01.580 I'll sit and tell you my stories

00:01:07.600 Shine on me

00:01:12.300 And I will find a song

00:01:16.500 I'll be singing just for you

00:01:19.920 If you're hunting, um, if you're hunting like vermin, do you need energy drink?

00:01:33.480 I drink a lot of coffee.

00:01:34.900 Do you?

00:01:35.620 Well, I drink Mountain Dew, diet Mountain Dew.

00:01:37.460 Okay, yeah.

00:01:38.100 I'm on a no-card kick I've lost.

00:01:39.880 I went from 260 down to 238 two days ago.

00:01:43.080 So I'm trying to get some weight back off.

00:01:44.960 Oh, really?

00:01:45.640 Yeah.

00:01:45.820 And what are you leaning up for?

00:01:47.200 To hunt animal?

00:01:48.320 Oh, I just do.

00:01:49.260 So I don't, to get rid of that.

00:01:51.340 Oh, see, oh, okay.

00:01:51.980 It's kind of hard to get through a crawl space

00:01:53.420 and through an attic door if you're big as hell. 0.98

00:01:56.520 Well, every space is a damn crawl space when you're big, I guess. 0.98

00:01:59.160 Um, do we, um, is this, I mean, do you, are you cussing? 0.99

00:02:03.380 I don't know.

00:02:04.080 Oh, yeah, we can say whatever you want.

00:02:05.140 Okay, I just don't want to.

00:02:06.620 No, I appreciate it, man.

00:02:07.380 I don't want to say something I shouldn't say, so.

00:02:09.480 Oh, yeah, the only things I don't say in here usually are, I don't say, I guess, I don't

00:02:17.160 say the N word, I don't say, like, F-A-G-G-O-T, I don't say that, and I don't say, I don't say

00:02:24.360 like a lot of British curse words, like C-U-N-T, I don't say that, I don't say P-U-S-S-Y, I don't 0.53

00:02:31.120 say, like, labia, I don't say stuff like that.

00:02:35.180 I don't say none of that anyway.

00:02:36.600 Okay, yeah, but anything else is good, um, or it's fine, you know, it's not good, but

00:02:40.220 it is whatever you want it to be.

00:02:41.800 I've watched some of your, I've tried to study and watch some of your podcasts.

00:02:46.720 Well, I don't know if that's good or not, man.

00:02:48.320 I mean, all of it's a little bit different, you know, I think, you know, first of all,

00:02:51.620 I appreciate you coming in.

00:02:52.440 How do you say your name so I know what I'm saying?

00:02:54.680 Marty.

00:02:55.420 Okay.

00:02:56.320 Voyeurs.

00:02:57.040 Voyeurs.

00:02:57.640 Think, uh, this is more than one peeping Tom.

00:03:00.540 Oh, yeah.

00:03:01.560 Voyeurs.

00:03:02.240 You have a voyeur or you have a voyeurs.

00:03:04.160 Oh, yeah, we had voyeurs usually where I'm from.

00:03:05.900 We had, uh, I remember we had to, if you wanted to, if you wanted to go out Tom and

00:03:10.380 repeat Tom and they called it, you had to get a ladder from a guy because nobody around

00:03:14.820 us had a ladder.

00:03:15.520 So we'd go over there and say, look, Wednesday, you know, about 4.35 PM, we want that ladder,

00:03:20.260 you know?

00:03:21.220 And, uh, and we'd get out there and peep in time.

00:03:23.900 And I actually, I enjoyed, I mean, as a kid, it was, you know what?

00:03:27.860 Where is this at?

00:03:28.540 You're doing this?

00:03:29.140 This, I'm from Louisiana.

00:03:30.300 Louisiana, okay.

00:03:30.880 So it reminded me of, uh, we didn't have cable for a while.

00:03:34.320 So I know you'd go over to some people's house and it was like watching, it was like

00:03:37.760 watching television almost, you know, the windows even shaped like a dang television.

00:03:41.520 So I remember sitting out there and just, you know, you know, the, the show isn't that

00:03:45.640 good. 0.96

00:03:45.880 It's just a family eating damn, you know, TV dinners and stuff, but it was still local 0.99

00:03:50.980 programming, I guess. 0.98

00:03:52.100 But that's just a way to, I mean, I don't like to say that my dad cringes when I do that,

00:03:56.000 but for somebody that doesn't know how to pronounce my name, it's voyeurs, voyeurs.

00:03:59.520 Yeah.

00:03:59.640 It's French.

00:04:00.520 So there you go.

00:04:01.380 Yeah.

00:04:02.160 And that's the only thing I just, I mean, on the youth is I, I mean, I just don't like

00:04:06.100 cause some people don't want to talk about, I say, oh yeah.

00:04:08.300 If they're like, are you going to relocate him?

00:04:09.980 I'm like, well, I'm going to take care of him.

00:04:11.420 That's not, no, I make the customer feel good.

00:04:13.940 Well, some animals, you got to have to, you relocate them to the Lord.

00:04:17.120 You know what I'm saying?

00:04:17.760 Like that's how I kind of see it.

00:04:19.280 You know, some of them it's, that's life, you know?

00:04:22.240 Well, I mean, look, it's an interesting job you have.

00:04:24.440 So French, your name is French, I guess.

00:04:26.880 And the French are notorious fur trappers, aren't they? 1.00

00:04:30.180 Is that true or not?

00:04:31.140 I guess they're fur trappers there.

00:04:32.700 Do you feel that in your genetics ever?

00:04:34.720 Oh, I'm a fur, I'm a trap.

00:04:36.480 Oh, you do?

00:04:37.040 Oh yeah.

00:04:37.460 No, I sent, I sent them guys a ton of pics.

00:04:40.320 I run a winter trap line, predator trap line.

00:04:43.240 This year I ended up with 66 coyotes and four bobcats and a lot of other miscellaneous animals,

00:04:49.580 foxes and raccoons.

00:04:51.100 But I do that every year in the wintertime, starting in November to February 28th.

00:04:57.220 It's fur, I'm slow, my business is slow in the winter.

00:05:00.260 And my farming is none in the winter, just the fact of feeding cattle and a fur trap.

00:05:06.420 And I go, and that helps my business.

00:05:07.880 And I do a lot of, in the wintertime I'll do it for free.

00:05:09.960 You know, I tell, if you've got coyote problems, I'll come take care of your coyotes and I'll do it for free.

00:05:14.720 Okay, so when you're dealing with a coyote, take me through that process.

00:05:19.880 So somebody calls you and says, hey, bucko, we got a coyote out here.

00:05:22.960 We got something.

00:05:24.180 What's the usual complaint if they don't know that it's a coyote?

00:05:27.140 That it's...

00:05:27.800 Getting her, they have something killing her calves. 1.00

00:05:30.480 Okay.

00:05:31.040 Which more than likely, it's usually something, the calf dies and the coyote is seen eating on it or tracks and he gets the blame. 0.99

00:05:38.300 Oh, damn. 0.98

00:05:38.880 But I mean, they will, they'll get a newborn, they'll get a calf while a cow's having it. 1.00

00:05:43.820 She's defenseless.

00:05:44.860 I didn't mean to...

00:05:45.400 She's defenseless when it's coming out of her and sometimes they'll grab it then.

00:05:50.160 That's when they'll attack.

00:05:51.320 She can't fight, defend them.

00:05:53.480 And they'll eat the afterbirth, but they'll come after a sick, you know, nature, they'll come after something sick.

00:05:57.740 You know, if it's injured or sick, they'll come after it.

00:06:00.780 But, you know, I get a lot of calls for that, raiding chicken houses, chicken coops, or their ducks missing.

00:06:05.900 Oh, yeah, that's just like on that cartoon.

00:06:07.160 Remember that?

00:06:08.880 It was in that cartoon where it was always in the hen house.

00:06:13.140 I'm trying to think of what it was.

00:06:14.500 That one with the big rooster.

00:06:16.820 Oh, I...

00:06:17.760 You know what I'm talking about a little bit?

00:06:19.200 Yeah, the big, he had the little...

00:06:21.040 He had to bit the...

00:06:21.900 I say, I say.

00:06:23.080 Yeah, yeah, that guy.

00:06:23.860 Had the little...

00:06:25.380 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:06:26.160 Running around the little itty bitty chicken.

00:06:28.340 These fellas right here. 0.52

00:06:29.620 Yeah.

00:06:30.280 Falkhorn Leghorn, dude.

00:06:32.420 And Falkhorn Leghorn, I think that's Dutch, that name.

00:06:35.780 But, yeah, he was in New...

00:06:37.160 Oh, yeah, he always had some issue.

00:06:39.560 Yeah, it was something breaking in.

00:06:41.140 So for coyotes, so that's fascinating.

00:06:43.700 So we're talking to Mr. Voyers here, and you deal with all types of basically animalia that are problems, right?

00:06:50.900 Yes, sir.

00:06:51.440 Okay.

00:06:51.700 And so I want to get immediately back into that coyote question, because that's just...

00:06:56.440 So is it kind of crazy to think that they'll attack during the birth, huh?

00:07:01.160 Yeah, they'll go after a cow or an animal, deer, cow.

00:07:05.820 They're having...

00:07:06.980 They're young.

00:07:07.540 They're defenseless, and they'll try to go after them in the end in cases.

00:07:10.620 Because deer, the fawn, that's one of their main predators, is coyote.

00:07:15.580 Wow.

00:07:16.540 For the mortality rate for a baby deer, it's a fawn, is coyotes.

00:07:21.440 They'll get the animals when they're weak, sick, and just kind of Mother Nature help them clean up. 0.98

00:07:26.420 And they'll get one when it's sick, take it out. 0.98

00:07:29.140 And do you see that as like, it's almost like that's Mother Nature doing, or do you feel like that's like, damn, it's kind of cheating? 0.96

00:07:35.780 Or do you feel like that's kind of just the way that Mother Nature works? 0.92

00:07:39.100 I mean, you have something that's not going to make it through the winter, it's going to starve to death.

00:07:42.920 Mother Nature's taking out something to feed the other, and it's not going to suffer.

00:07:47.620 It's Mother Nature.

00:07:48.780 Yeah.

00:07:49.300 But I mean, sometimes Mother Nature's cruel.

00:07:51.840 She's very cruel sometimes, but... 0.69

00:07:53.640 She is.

00:07:54.100 She's really step Mother Nature almost sometimes, you know?

00:07:56.900 There you go.

00:07:57.700 I feel like, you know, I mean, I don't know.

00:07:59.160 I love my step-bobs, and I've got a great step-bob, so...

00:08:02.180 Yeah, I mean, I don't know.

00:08:02.920 I've got a great mother and a great step-bob.

00:08:04.600 Oh, you do?

00:08:05.160 Oh, yeah.

00:08:05.660 Oh, your dad picked some good ones, huh?

00:08:07.380 Oh, yeah.

00:08:07.740 I love my parents.

00:08:08.780 They're the best.

00:08:09.280 They raise me up good, and they're the best.

00:08:11.280 So now, did you, were you into dealing with animals at a young age?

00:08:15.180 Because if you're a real animal man, then you, I'm guessing you really got into animalia pretty young, huh?

00:08:21.020 My grandfather got me into trapping.

00:08:22.540 When I grew up going over to the farm every weekend when I was a youngster,

00:08:26.440 and he got me into trapping groundhogs, getting rid of the groundhogs.

00:08:30.160 I started trapping there and just worked my way up over the years,

00:08:33.360 and he bought me my first traps at the feed store, and it just worked up over time.

00:08:37.900 And what kind of traps were those, those first traps?

00:08:39.860 My first traps were one-and-a-half leg holds, like foot traps.

00:08:45.060 Bring that up, Sean.

00:08:47.000 I just want to see what that looks like so we've got an idea of it.

00:08:50.800 So now, tell me how this thing works here.

00:08:53.820 How does this kind of trap work?

00:08:56.040 It's a spring trap.

00:08:57.180 If you, when you compress the sides of whichever one you're looking at,

00:09:02.180 you compress the sides of it, and it's got a latch and a pan.

00:09:05.720 And when you get, when you latch the pan, and then you'll cover it up.

00:09:10.160 I bed the trap, you bed the trap down, cover it up.

00:09:12.440 Sometimes I make a bait hole.

00:09:14.380 Sometimes I don't, or it's a walk-through set.

00:09:17.380 And, or if it's groundhog, you know, I place it down in the, in the den for the groundhog.

00:09:21.580 Now, I don't use that method in my business, but growing up trapping,

00:09:24.900 and that's how I got rid of the groundhog.

00:09:26.460 And now, why would you do, so when you say bedding,

00:09:29.700 you put like a leaves and stuff over it, some kind of camo?

00:09:32.400 In essence, I bed the trap down to where they don't see it.

00:09:35.260 Okay.

00:09:35.540 You kind of dig out, you kind of dig out a hole,

00:09:37.380 and you place the trap down, cover it up to where they walk in,

00:09:41.180 they don't see it, but they step on it.

00:09:42.820 And they're going after, like if it's a coyote or a predator,

00:09:46.220 I use a bait hole, which I'll make a, dig a little hole in the ground

00:09:49.760 and put a lure, commercial lure of bait in it. 0.89

00:09:52.060 So, the coyote's concentrating on that, and we'll dig it out,

00:09:55.900 and then get the trap while he's working the set, going after the bait.

00:10:00.140 Okay.

00:10:00.600 So, what kind of bait do you use?

00:10:02.040 So, for groundhog, you won't use a bait.

00:10:03.600 You'll kind of just wait for their weight to hit it?

00:10:05.280 Well, I mean, if you, Lou, now I don't, in my younger, when I was a kid,

00:10:09.440 I'd use a lake hole trap.

00:10:10.520 But if I'm at a customer's house, can't really use a foothold trap in somebody's front yard.

00:10:15.820 I have a, we use a good cage, as I use a Comstock cage, a double door cage,

00:10:22.740 and I'll set it, bed it, set it in front of the hole,

00:10:26.160 and make a deposit to where, when the groundhog comes out, he has to go in that trap.

00:10:30.260 He has no option but to go in there to get outside.

00:10:33.380 So, that way, I can say I catch three groundhogs, and we don't catch anything for a week.

00:10:38.540 I can say, there's no more groundhogs in that hole, and then we can seal the hole up, 0.80

00:10:42.060 and we're done.

00:10:43.720 So, this trap right here, this is a single door trap, you said?

00:10:46.780 Yes, sir.

00:10:47.520 It's double door, single door, but Comstock, it's one of my favorite traps,

00:10:50.740 one of the most popular traps with the nuisance wildlife operators.

00:10:54.640 So, that's just pretty basic.

00:10:55.820 It looks like it has, like, kind of this, like, almost a teeter-totter door

00:10:59.120 where once you go through it, it just closes back and you can't get out.

00:11:01.900 It's a spring-loaded door on it, and it's got the triggers in the middle.

00:11:04.820 So, when raccoon, groundhog comes through, he hits those triggers in the middle,

00:11:09.420 and it's a spring-loaded door.

00:11:10.620 And it's not like a tractor-supply cage trap.

00:11:14.200 It's spring-loaded.

00:11:14.900 It goes down.

00:11:15.480 It goes down hard enough to where if one gets caught in it, it could kill it.

00:11:18.780 Underneath of it, it could get it.

00:11:20.820 Wow.

00:11:21.580 Okay, and so what animal, honestly, when you see an animal that, and you trap one,

00:11:25.920 which one does it seem like the happiest to get trapped?

00:11:28.080 Is there any that's like, thank God for getting me out of this thing?

00:11:30.440 Oh, none of them are very happy.

00:11:31.800 Really?

00:11:32.340 No.

00:11:33.620 Because I wonder sometimes if there's animals out there that are ready to be domesticated, 0.91

00:11:37.520 and they're just like, praise God, somebody take me out of this damn food chain, you know? 0.89

00:11:42.640 Because I'm sure for some animals, it is just, it's a dirty world out there. 0.97

00:11:47.320 Probably the most laid-back creature that we trap, that I trap, is probably a possum-wise.

00:11:52.440 I mean, it'll, you come up to it, if it's in a cage, it'll be curled up asleep usually, playing possum,

00:11:58.620 or if it's in a, I'll have them get into my trap when I'm predator-trapping,

00:12:03.560 and you can catch anything in these traps, you know, anything, a possum's a scavenger.

00:12:09.740 Okay.

00:12:10.180 I call them ground buzzards, is what I call them. 1.00

00:12:11.740 Oh, damn. 1.00

00:12:12.320 They eat everything, they'll eat anything dead or whatever on the ground. 1.00

00:12:14.920 Oh, yeah, forest shrimp, they call them sometimes.

00:12:16.760 Yeah, and they'll, I mean, I've had them, I mean, it sounds nasty, the dead cow, I'll sit sometimes around it,

00:12:23.900 and I've seen them cut, they'll go in, they'll eat their way inside of the cow.

00:12:27.300 And how do they get in? Through, like, the butt, really? 0.82

00:12:29.440 Yeah, through the rear end. 0.99

00:12:30.960 Wow.

00:12:31.240 They eat their way right in.

00:12:32.420 I mean, it's kind of gross, but when you deal with, I mean, when you deal with the, I mean, do it, it doesn't really bother you.

00:12:38.300 But that's, I raise cattle, too.

00:12:39.660 I have been around cattle all my life.

00:12:41.320 That's just part of Mother Nature. 1.00

00:12:42.920 When you, my, the old way we did it, you know, you drag the cow to the holler and let Mother Nature consume it.

00:12:49.300 Yeah.

00:12:49.520 Give back, give back to her, let her consume it.

00:12:51.340 Yeah, no, now you should take it, you know, really to the landfill, but we usually have a holler, dig a hole with the loader,

00:12:58.700 maybe track the loader and bury it, cover it up.

00:13:01.500 Wow.

00:13:01.920 But they're, well, back to a possum, you know, to get them, they're the most docile.

00:13:05.500 I mean, I can, you can catch them, I can pick them up and hold them.

00:13:08.440 Their mainly, their main defense is they, they snarl, which.

00:13:13.280 They show those teeth, don't they?

00:13:14.700 Yeah.

00:13:15.040 It's, a lot of them call them grinners.

00:13:17.200 So right before you hit them, right before they get run over, they grin real big at you.

00:13:20.840 Cause that's their main defense is they just grin and hiss at you to scare you away. 1.00

00:13:24.860 Oh, damn. 1.00

00:13:25.360 They can't fight or do it. 1.00

00:13:28.260 You can't, but they can't defend themselves anyway.

00:13:30.680 And that's what, and they are actually marsupial, marsupial.

00:13:34.140 I mean, they're rather cool.

00:13:35.240 They had the pouch like a kangaroo.

00:13:36.940 I mean, they're a really neat animal.

00:13:38.760 Wow.

00:13:39.220 So, so, uh, uh, they have the, the pouch.

00:13:41.640 Can you bring up that pouch, Sean?

00:13:43.000 So they have the pouch.

00:13:44.280 It's, uh, I didn't know that, um, that they had that.

00:13:47.620 Yeah.

00:13:47.980 Yes, sir.

00:13:49.200 Yep.

00:13:49.600 They carry their, they carry their young in a pouch.

00:13:51.960 And now can you get, like, is there like, uh, do you know how many they could fit in there?

00:13:58.000 No, I, I mean, I did litter probably five or six, about an average litter.

00:14:02.320 Okay.

00:14:02.680 But, I mean, they, they'll stay in there until they get so big and they, you know, it's obviously

00:14:07.260 too big.

00:14:07.820 Then they'll stay with her, ride on her back like you got in the pictures.

00:14:10.500 Okay.

00:14:11.280 But they're, I mean, they're the most, they're a pretty gentle creature other than, you know,

00:14:15.800 a raccoon's not happy to see you.

00:14:17.860 A coyote's not very happy.

00:14:18.840 Even a groundhog's not happy to, you know.

00:14:20.680 Really?

00:14:21.060 They'll, they'll chatter their teeth.

00:14:22.280 They'll, they'll bite their teeth at you. 0.63

00:14:23.980 They just, I don't know, just like a little, no, he tried to scare you.

00:14:27.080 That's their defense.

00:14:27.980 That's everything.

00:14:29.020 The skunk sprays, um, raccoons just mean, they'll just come after you.

00:14:34.860 Now, tell me this, sir, is the, um, what is a vermin?

00:14:39.400 How do you get upgraded to a vermin?

00:14:41.700 You know what I'm saying?

00:14:42.580 Is there like a, is there like a, you know, some rural kind of courtroom where they're like, 1.00

00:14:48.120 you're a damn vermin now, buck. 0.99

00:14:49.640 Like, like, do they, if something causes enough problems, is it then a vermin? 1.00

00:14:53.440 When does it go from pest to vermin to swamp thing or whatever?

00:14:57.600 When it invade your house.

00:14:58.960 When, you know, raccoons are, I mean, they don't bother you in, in, in nature.

00:15:03.340 You know, you, you see raccoons all the time on the road or running around.

00:15:06.680 They're not a pest until they make their way in your house. 0.78

00:15:09.480 They get in your attic to go through your soffit or chimney or whatever and get into your attic,

00:15:13.740 your house, have their babies.

00:15:16.720 Um, they, you know, the feces everywhere.

00:15:19.640 Uh, raccoons use a toy, use a toy.

00:15:21.740 They may, they use the bathroom like a cat in the same place.

00:15:24.200 Oh, really?

00:15:24.820 So, if you've got raccoons that have been in there for quite a while, you have quite a mess.

00:15:28.780 So, if you see a bunch of coon duty somewhere, that's really, that's a giveaway, real sign. 1.00

00:15:32.860 Yeah.

00:15:33.120 Oh, yeah.

00:15:33.500 And you, oh, I'll open up attic, I've opened up attic doors and had it dumped right on me before.

00:15:37.760 No.

00:15:37.900 Where the doors swing down.

00:15:39.100 I mean, it's always, you're always opening your, your duct like, real easy to make sure there's not going to be,

00:15:44.780 because that's usually, you know, the back guano or raccoon feces is going to be right there on top of the attic door also.

00:15:50.360 Like a surprise party.

00:15:51.380 Yeah.

00:15:51.700 Oh, yeah.

00:15:52.200 Definitely be surprised you get that dumped onto.

00:15:54.500 Not what you want to do.

00:15:55.720 I had a bat attack.

00:15:56.880 Me, I was trying to make out with a girl.

00:15:58.140 I was about 14 in an attic.

00:15:59.480 Like, and, and I don't know if this bat knew her or what, but that thing came after me, boy. 0.99

00:16:05.380 That thing, like, it came after, that bat might have been her, you know, I don't know if her dad had passed and this was, it was a spirit.

00:16:11.140 Yeah, or something. 1.00

00:16:12.000 Yeah, come back as a damn bat, boy. 1.00

00:16:14.080 But this thing did not want me putting my fangs in her neck, that's for sure, brother. 1.00

00:16:17.740 You were just in his house.

00:16:19.160 Yeah, yeah.

00:16:19.560 You were invading his area.

00:16:20.720 I probably was.

00:16:21.480 Yeah.

00:16:21.620 You know, we wandered up into an attic of a semi, not abandoned house, but a house that hadn't even been built yet.

00:16:27.260 So, pre-abandonment.

00:16:28.420 Mm-hmm.

00:16:30.580 Now, raccoons, though, get the, they really, I feel like, kind of get the, they get looked at, I feel like, as Mother Nature's kind of hit man a little bit.

00:16:40.020 They really have come into their own as being just burglars, you know?

00:16:43.500 Like, I think every time you see them, they look so guilty.

00:16:46.600 They look like they.

00:16:47.940 They call them, you know, bandits.

00:16:49.440 They have that kind of a mask on them.

00:16:51.420 I mean, they, when they see our houses or your house, they just see a tree.

00:16:54.740 They see, you know, every, you know, the neighborhoods and subdivisions are tearing down more woods and more environment to build the houses.

00:17:04.060 So, they're running out of places.

00:17:05.980 And they don't have really, their main predator is man.

00:17:09.100 Wow.

00:17:09.500 And so, they, when they look at your house, just like any of these animals, they just see a, they just see a big tree.

00:17:15.140 A funny looking tree, you know, they can climb right up the side and right up a downspout and they'll find a way in.

00:17:21.380 And they'll make, they'll make your home their home.

00:17:23.700 So, they just see their house, your house as a tree, really.

00:17:26.280 That's it.

00:17:26.620 Yeah, I mean, that's what they see it as, you know, just, just a different type of structure.

00:17:30.120 They want to be, the, the female raccoons, they want to be up high. 1.00

00:17:34.300 They want, you know, if they're not in, like, a cavity of a tree, it's where they, you know, would be in the nature.

00:17:39.540 Because they want it, they want to be up high so that when they have their young, they're away from predators.

00:17:43.720 They're away from things that could hurt their babies.

00:17:45.560 One of their main, one of their main concerns when they're having their babies is male raccoons. 0.81

00:17:50.500 Another one of Mother Nature's things is a male raccoon will search out the female and kill those babies to make her come into heat again. 1.00

00:18:00.280 Which is Mother Nature, another cruel way of Mother Nature. 1.00

00:18:03.740 It's, it's just a cycle, just, it's just Mother Nature.

00:18:07.100 And so, the mama raccoons, or sow raccoons is what we call them, they'll, they'll go, they get high up in the attics and that's, they'll make their dens trying to keep away from everything else. 0.98

00:18:17.600 And the male raccoons. 0.96

00:18:18.780 So, even there, could it even be the own male that knocked them up?

00:18:23.160 I mean, it could be, I don't know. 0.99

00:18:25.280 Oh my God, dude, it sounds like a damn John Grisham. 0.99

00:18:28.560 I mean, it is possible. 0.99

00:18:30.100 Some of the, one technique that we use, eviction fluid, which is mainly raccoon piss.

00:18:37.100 And you can take it, I'm not a big fan of it because I like to catch the raccoon and remove it.

00:18:42.060 No, I've removed it out of your house.

00:18:43.540 But you can take eviction fluid and put it around in her entry hole and in the attic.

00:18:47.700 And the female raccoon will think there's a male present and take her babies and shag out of there. 1.00

00:18:54.320 Okay.

00:18:54.660 So, you mean if you want to get her out of there.

00:18:56.320 Yeah, some places they, if you use like all humane, no trapping, they can use eviction fluid and that can make the female think there's a male present and she'll get her babies and get out. 0.79

00:19:08.640 But you still have, there's a raccoon there.

00:19:10.960 Right.

00:19:11.180 It's going to go somewhere else.

00:19:12.340 It's going to be somebody else's problem.

00:19:13.900 I mean, I like to trap them and get rid of it.

00:19:16.920 That way I can tell the customer, hey, we got, I've got mama, I got five kits out of your attic and sealed up and we're good to go.

00:19:24.780 And we got, yeah, we got the problem solved.

00:19:26.500 Otherwise you just, once you put that piss down there, they're just looking, you're just, you're scaring them off.

00:19:31.280 You don't know where you're scaring them to.

00:19:32.800 Yeah.

00:19:33.180 So you haven't really solved the problem.

00:19:34.640 They can, they'll either leave or they'll just go even deeper.

00:19:37.620 You just carry in the one.

00:19:38.720 Yeah.

00:19:38.800 You haven't really solved the problem.

00:19:39.880 Now, what about this, I want to get back a little bit to this.

00:19:45.420 I mean, it's almost like a Shakespeare story that the, so the female can have children, have babies, raccoon can have babies.

00:19:55.880 And a man raccoon will come and kill the babies while they're being born. 1.00

00:20:01.860 Well, after she has them. 0.98

00:20:02.940 After she has them. 0.99

00:20:04.280 Will the male raccoon eat them or just kill them? 1.00

00:20:06.940 He usually just kills them. 1.00

00:20:08.420 Okay. 1.00

00:20:09.020 Kill them. 1.00

00:20:09.880 And then kill them just so the female will go back into heat so then he can get laid, basically. 1.00

00:20:14.620 Yeah. 1.00

00:20:15.260 I mean.

00:20:15.880 Yeah, you can put it that.

00:20:17.280 I mean, it's not the only, a lot of animals do it.

00:20:20.020 Lions, you know, they'll kill the cubs. 1.00

00:20:22.800 You know, and other animals like that, it'll kill their offspring or the offspring. 0.92

00:20:26.780 It just hurts me, man.

00:20:27.680 To make her, to make them come back into heat. 0.56

00:20:29.680 So that's.

00:20:30.360 It just hurts my feelings.

00:20:32.080 I mean, that's not, I don't come across that very often.

00:20:34.840 But I mean, I've found it where I come do an attic inspection and just find a bloodbath.

00:20:40.320 You know, just a little young, I mean, little kitsch.

00:20:42.740 I mean, size of the pop can.

00:20:45.860 Jesus. 1.00

00:20:45.940 And just be ripped open, just, you know, horrible where the male raccoons come in and kill them all. 1.00

00:20:50.840 I mean, it happens. 0.81

00:20:52.000 You don't see it very often, which I don't see it very often.

00:20:54.780 It's like the first forest eight, kind of.

00:20:58.140 Yeah.

00:20:58.560 You know, it's something, like I said, Mother Nature's cool sometimes.

00:21:02.160 It just.

00:21:02.960 You know, the little man is who you want.

00:21:05.140 You want that little man. 0.91

00:21:06.480 If you want a baby, if you want something coming out of your body, you want it to be the little man.

00:21:11.980 Hell, if you want something going into your body, you almost want it to be the little man or, you know, not too big of a man.

00:21:17.620 And that's what I'm talking about.

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00:24:06.960 Now, here's a question that came in from some fellow right here who's probably out of work,

00:24:10.520 but also seemed like a decent fellow right here.

00:24:12.840 Here we go.

00:24:14.400 Hey, Theo.

00:24:15.220 I'm Noah.

00:24:16.100 Coming at you from London, England.

00:24:17.920 Huge fan.

00:24:19.260 I've got a question for the real-life wildlife control man,

00:24:22.500 which is a question that Theo actually brought up on one of the Joe Rogan episodes,

00:24:26.820 which is that how are these raccoons not a bigger problem?

00:24:30.260 I mean, you must deal with it.

00:24:32.240 You're on the front line of this stuff.

00:24:34.000 So tell us what's going on with these raccoons.

00:24:37.240 Gang, gang.

00:24:37.760 Gang, brother.

00:24:38.480 Yeah, how are they not a bigger problem? 0.99

00:24:40.720 It seemed like they're after sex. 0.98

00:24:42.160 You're saying they're doing sex in the attic, 1.00

00:24:43.880 and they're willing to kill children and get sex, 0.99

00:24:48.140 and they're obviously breaking into people's homes. 0.99

00:24:51.580 I see them in the recycling bin constantly,

00:24:53.740 or I see them usually in the trash,

00:24:54.980 and I'll see you ever see that one weird raccoon that's in the recycling bin?

00:24:57.960 It's like, what is he?

00:24:58.540 He's like he's reading in there or something, you know?

00:25:00.600 But I'll see the ones in, you know, it's like you'll go out at night.

00:25:04.060 Here's what I find fascinating.

00:25:05.380 You'll drive through a neighborhood,

00:25:08.020 and it's a peaceful, regular-looking neighborhood.

00:25:09.860 Everything seems normal.

00:25:10.880 And there's only three or four trees in the dang neighborhood.

00:25:15.080 If you asked everybody all day,

00:25:17.500 is there any raccoons in this neighborhood,

00:25:19.100 people would put zero on the form.

00:25:21.660 And you come by at about, dang, 1240, I feel like,

00:25:25.640 or 1115 p.m.,

00:25:28.080 and you'll see them in little groups of three just cruising along.

00:25:31.540 It's like they can hide so, 0.99

00:25:34.760 I mean, they hide right before your damn eyes, it seems like. 0.99

00:25:37.980 So how are they not a bigger problem, 0.99

00:25:39.380 and what kind of problem are they?

00:25:40.580 These raccoons, and you can be honest with me.

00:25:42.600 I mean, they're my raccoon,

00:25:44.820 my raccoons every year through my business,

00:25:47.320 it's getting bigger and bigger.

00:25:48.720 There you go.

00:25:48.900 I mean, more, it's getting to be more and more of a problem.

00:25:51.580 I knew it.

00:25:51.960 Like, the more we build and go into the farmland,

00:25:56.540 we're taking out their habitat.

00:25:58.460 Like I said, the only natural real predator is man,

00:26:01.520 is a car, and disease,

00:26:03.760 which they get overcrowded like anything.

00:26:05.540 They'll get disease, they'll get in them,

00:26:07.220 distemper, or they get rabies,

00:26:09.080 and they'll kill some of them off. 0.97

00:26:10.740 But they are, I mean, 0.99

00:26:11.760 a lot of people have them and don't know they have them.

00:26:14.060 Really?

00:26:14.480 You know, you might,

00:26:15.280 if you're in a house,

00:26:15.960 you might hear something every once in a while,

00:26:17.460 and they're like,

00:26:17.880 well, that's just a raccoon. 0.91

00:26:19.300 Yeah.

00:26:19.440 No big deal.

00:26:20.220 They don't come in here and bother me in my living room,

00:26:22.680 because I'll be in houses,

00:26:24.140 in attics.

00:26:25.120 Oh, we just started hearing it last week,

00:26:27.340 and it's obvious they've had it for years.

00:26:29.700 Wow.

00:26:30.120 Just some people just don't know it.

00:26:31.660 I mean, they're sneaky.

00:26:32.760 They're sometimes quiet.

00:26:34.080 You got the insulation in your attic,

00:26:35.600 and they don't make a whole lot of noise,

00:26:37.700 you know,

00:26:38.100 or you overlook it as something else,

00:26:40.120 or just don't want to know what,

00:26:42.600 just don't want to know what it is.

00:26:44.460 And are they flame-retardant raccoons? 0.90

00:26:47.620 Can they,

00:26:48.140 are they flammable animals?

00:26:51.780 You know what I'm saying?

00:26:52.700 Like, their skin is so thick, 0.95

00:26:55.060 it seems like they wouldn't be,

00:26:57.040 in an attic,

00:26:57.700 it just seemed like a good place for fire,

00:26:59.120 you know,

00:26:59.420 or something like bad to happen.

00:27:00.200 I mean,

00:27:00.820 they're actually,

00:27:01.860 they're very tough creatures.

00:27:03.260 I've had,

00:27:04.000 I did,

00:27:04.960 had one particular job this spring,

00:27:07.100 early spring,

00:27:08.120 or late winter,

00:27:09.500 and it took us a month and three days

00:27:11.320 for that.

00:27:11.660 I caught four raccoons out of an attic,

00:27:13.220 and a month and three days,

00:27:14.940 the final raccoon came out.

00:27:16.380 Oof.

00:27:17.140 And,

00:27:17.560 And what was he doing?

00:27:18.720 Just hands up,

00:27:19.680 in denial?

00:27:20.120 They were juvenile,

00:27:21.360 young raccoons,

00:27:22.040 last year's raccoons,

00:27:23.200 just denning,

00:27:24.600 and just,

00:27:25.580 they're trap shy,

00:27:26.520 and won't,

00:27:27.540 you know,

00:27:28.140 they won't,

00:27:28.520 they won't come out.

00:27:29.600 I mean,

00:27:29.860 in the summertime,

00:27:30.680 it's not unusual to have a raccoon go a week,

00:27:33.340 maybe two weeks in the summer,

00:27:34.640 and an attic could be 140 degrees.

00:27:36.840 I mean,

00:27:37.100 they're a tough creature.

00:27:37.940 Stay in there,

00:27:38.520 no food or water.

00:27:40.620 You know,

00:27:41.180 sometimes they can get water,

00:27:42.460 or your air conditioning,

00:27:43.640 they'll have a condensation pan. 1.00

00:27:45.020 They'll sip off that bastard. 0.99

00:27:45.980 They can get a little bit of water off that. 1.00

00:27:47.380 Oh,

00:27:47.400 they're sneaky,

00:27:47.960 man. 0.94

00:27:48.760 They're just so damn sneaky, 0.94

00:27:50.080 that's what gets me, 0.66

00:27:50.860 you know, 1.00

00:27:51.100 they're just the damn, 1.00

00:27:52.840 they're the real Andy Dufresnes of the damn animal kingdom. 1.00

00:27:56.080 You know what I'm saying? 1.00

00:27:57.000 They're wild,

00:27:57.680 man.

00:27:58.620 Is there any animal as sneaky as a raccoon?

00:28:02.120 I mean,

00:28:02.380 let's put the crown on the prince,

00:28:03.800 brother. 0.76

00:28:04.000 Is there any animal as sneaky as a dang raccoon?

00:28:08.740 I got to say bobcat's pretty sneaky.

00:28:10.280 There you go.

00:28:11.080 That's,

00:28:11.380 I mean,

00:28:11.640 it's,

00:28:11.920 I don't get the calls,

00:28:12.960 you know,

00:28:13.780 for,

00:28:14.160 you know,

00:28:14.360 like they don't invade your homes like a raccoon does,

00:28:16.620 but they're,

00:28:17.100 they got to be pretty sneaky.

00:28:18.760 I mean,

00:28:19.020 I would,

00:28:19.360 they're pretty sneaky. 0.96

00:28:21.480 Rats. 0.93

00:28:22.700 I do a lot of rat work. 0.99

00:28:23.880 Oh yeah.

00:28:24.160 They can be a pretty sneaky.

00:28:25.560 So do I brother.

00:28:26.520 They,

00:28:26.760 they're hard to get.

00:28:27.640 And they're, 0.84

00:28:27.940 there's sometimes they're a pretty big challenge to get the rats are pretty sneaky.

00:28:31.260 They'll,

00:28:31.960 they don't like change.

00:28:33.080 And,

00:28:33.640 you know,

00:28:33.720 you mess with them, 0.67

00:28:34.500 they'll change the routes and where they come in and they're, 0.78

00:28:37.420 they're a sneaky animal. 0.69

00:28:38.600 They're all kind of sneaky, 0.80

00:28:39.880 you know,

00:28:40.040 but those,

00:28:41.420 those come to mind as being the most sneaky to me.

00:28:43.840 I mean,

00:28:44.320 do you look at it as a competition when you wake up in the morning?

00:28:47.300 Do you kind of look at it as like,

00:28:48.880 like,

00:28:49.760 I kind of wonder how you envision your position in the world.

00:28:52.760 I mean,

00:28:53.100 do you look at it as like,

00:28:55.320 you're kind of like the,

00:28:59.920 like that your help,

00:29:01.160 that you're against the animals,

00:29:02.760 it's you against them.

00:29:03.920 Do you look at it as you're just helping people?

00:29:05.860 Like just kind of what's the vibe that you have to take on each day to really get out there and,

00:29:10.960 and solve some of these animal issues that are in the world.

00:29:14.600 I love animals.

00:29:15.680 Oh,

00:29:15.840 you love them.

00:29:16.340 We,

00:29:16.460 I mean,

00:29:16.820 I love you got,

00:29:17.560 I love my work.

00:29:18.340 I love animals.

00:29:19.680 You know,

00:29:20.260 I love working with them,

00:29:21.480 getting to handle them.

00:29:22.360 I've got lots of pets.

00:29:23.540 I mean,

00:29:23.700 I'm an animal lover,

00:29:24.900 but I like helping people and satisfaction.

00:29:29.380 You know,

00:29:29.680 somebody's got,

00:29:30.940 somebody has a house and they have a large colony of bats.

00:29:34.420 And when I can go in and seal that house up and evict those bats,

00:29:38.700 get rid of them and do, 0.56

00:29:39.860 and clean up their attic.

00:29:40.800 Like it was brand new.

00:29:42.200 I mean,

00:29:42.540 that's,

00:29:42.880 that's some satisfaction.

00:29:43.920 Yeah,

00:29:44.020 I could see that.

00:29:44.600 To sit back and say,

00:29:45.100 Hey,

00:29:45.420 I took care of this.

00:29:46.520 I mean,

00:29:46.760 it's,

00:29:47.100 it's different than saying like,

00:29:48.740 well,

00:29:49.340 you know,

00:29:50.020 you sold a new album or you sold a new car or signed a new deal.

00:29:54.660 I said,

00:29:54.760 yeah,

00:29:54.940 I got rid of those bats.

00:29:56.120 Yeah.

00:29:56.340 I mean,

00:29:56.580 it's,

00:29:57.020 it's satisfaction.

00:29:57.840 It's kind of a different,

00:29:59.440 and it's each his own.

00:30:00.580 It's kind of a different satisfaction,

00:30:02.380 but I mean,

00:30:03.320 it's,

00:30:03.500 it's very satisfied.

00:30:04.520 If I didn't love it,

00:30:05.300 I wouldn't do it.

00:30:05.940 Yeah.

00:30:06.220 I mean,

00:30:06.460 I love,

00:30:07.060 I love getting every morning.

00:30:08.240 It's something different.

00:30:09.260 It's something new.

00:30:10.120 It may be the same thing,

00:30:12.340 but it's something,

00:30:13.560 no raccoon job,

00:30:14.820 no bat job. 0.89

00:30:15.600 Nothing is the same.

00:30:16.500 It's always a little bit different,

00:30:17.940 a little bit different scenario or what,

00:30:20.820 how you have to set up on it or what happens or it's all a little bit there.

00:30:24.800 It's all a challenge.

00:30:25.680 Sometimes it's very challenging.

00:30:27.700 Tell me about it.

00:30:28.620 Take me on a call for something where you like,

00:30:32.380 I just had a vision of you like walking through the zoo.

00:30:34.700 Just kind of looking at the animals being like,

00:30:36.520 I could do all of this,

00:30:37.760 you know,

00:30:38.220 kind of,

00:30:38.600 that's kind of Clint Eastwood,

00:30:39.980 if you would,

00:30:40.620 you know,

00:30:40.940 I mean,

00:30:41.380 we,

00:30:41.780 um,

00:30:42.440 you ever,

00:30:43.340 we go through the Cincinnati zoo a couple of years back and I was,

00:30:47.380 you know,

00:30:48.360 like the,

00:30:48.860 the raccoons or something.

00:30:51.000 I'm like,

00:30:51.320 hell yeah.

00:30:51.660 Like the river otters.

00:30:52.660 I'm like,

00:30:52.920 yeah,

00:30:53.120 I've done,

00:30:53.640 I like otter jobs.

00:30:54.780 You know,

00:30:55.060 those are,

00:30:55.460 those are,

00:30:55.980 everybody sees them as loving.

00:30:57.200 I mean,

00:30:57.400 they are loving creatures,

00:30:58.860 very neat and pretty,

00:31:00.480 but they'll,

00:31:01.480 um,

00:31:02.040 come into,

00:31:02.600 if they can find your pond or lake,

00:31:04.180 they'll wipe out your fish. 0.99

00:31:05.400 No way.

00:31:07.000 And so,

00:31:07.660 but they do the tricks.

00:31:08.740 They do the tricks that make you think they're being good.

00:31:10.940 Yeah.

00:31:11.060 They're cute,

00:31:11.620 but they're just there for your fish.

00:31:12.940 I mean,

00:31:13.380 they're,

00:31:13.640 they're,

00:31:14.160 you know,

00:31:14.340 they can be,

00:31:15.680 that's what they're cute until they start taking away something.

00:31:19.440 And then they're a pest.

00:31:20.620 Like you said,

00:31:21.280 then they're cute.

00:31:22.540 Oh,

00:31:22.920 they're cute and cuddly.

00:31:23.860 Then they start till the tune is gone.

00:31:25.580 And then the tune is gone.

00:31:26.860 And then they got to go,

00:31:28.620 you know,

00:31:28.860 then they're,

00:31:29.320 then they're a pest.

00:31:30.020 Then the people don't like them.

00:31:30.960 They got to go.

00:31:32.100 Now,

00:31:32.500 why does an otter look so cute?

00:31:34.460 You think to us?

00:31:35.160 Cause they do those tricks.

00:31:36.220 I've seen them do the tricks in the zoo.

00:31:37.860 You know,

00:31:38.060 you get by the zoo cage or the water zoo and you'll see them do those tricks.

00:31:41.680 And it makes me feel like,

00:31:42.900 oh man,

00:31:43.360 they're,

00:31:43.660 yeah,

00:31:43.980 they're lovely.

00:31:44.880 They're this and that, 0.91

00:31:45.540 but you don't notice the two otters in the back beating the fuck out of a 0.99

00:31:48.680 carp. 0.97

00:31:49.060 You know what I'm saying?

00:31:49.740 Like,

00:31:50.080 you know what I'm saying?

00:31:50.720 You don't notice the hit.

00:31:51.860 You know what I'm saying?

00:31:52.320 You don't notice the other side of the,

00:31:54.620 uh,

00:31:55.000 of,

00:31:55.800 of the aluminum,

00:31:56.900 you know?

00:31:57.240 I mean,

00:31:57.560 they look cute.

00:31:58.240 They're mercury.

00:31:59.560 Yeah.

00:31:59.920 They look cute.

00:32:00.420 They groom themselves.

00:32:01.760 They do.

00:32:02.180 That does.

00:32:03.160 And when they do that,

00:32:04.240 you know,

00:32:04.400 it looks cute.

00:32:05.080 Oh,

00:32:05.380 look at,

00:32:05.720 you know,

00:32:05.940 if he's,

00:32:06.480 they're grooming themselves and they're always where their hair,

00:32:09.540 they're oily to where it helps them shed the water.

00:32:11.920 Oh yeah.

00:32:12.440 And so they just make them look so cute.

00:32:14.480 Oh yeah.

00:32:14.760 They got this summer.

00:32:15.460 They look like they got their hair dyed for the summer.

00:32:17.240 They're ready to kind of,

00:32:18.180 you know,

00:32:18.400 like they're going to the beach. 0.98

00:32:19.260 Like they're going to be in damn Destin all, 0.99

00:32:20.840 all summer. 0.99

00:32:21.520 I mean,

00:32:21.700 it's like a baby raccoon.

00:32:23.300 I mean,

00:32:23.660 I handle lots of baby and they're so cute and cuddly,

00:32:26.020 but they grow up to be big raccoons and then they can be very destructive.

00:32:29.660 Same way as a little baby groundhogs, 0.93

00:32:31.920 cute and cuddly looking,

00:32:33.140 but they're going to grow up to dig underneath their house and,

00:32:36.040 you know,

00:32:36.700 dig underneath their foundation,

00:32:38.080 cause it to settle and cry.

00:32:39.540 I mean,

00:32:40.740 they're all cut.

00:32:41.520 They're all cute until they destroy something.

00:32:44.500 And then they're a pest.

00:32:45.400 I got it.

00:32:45.840 And then there's guys like me.

00:32:47.080 It got to come in and take care of them.

00:32:48.420 Okay.

00:32:48.660 So now that's it.

00:32:49.340 So now we're seeing kind of the evolution from them just being an animal to

00:32:52.740 them becoming a pest.

00:32:53.780 They become a pest when they are bothering you.

00:32:56.840 Yeah.

00:32:57.440 When they're bothering something,

00:32:59.260 when they're causing some disruption in our world.

00:33:02.320 Now,

00:33:02.880 is it kind of weird because we're really causing a disruption in their world?

00:33:07.120 We're the one invading their territory. 0.96

00:33:09.960 Yeah.

00:33:10.320 Like you buy a piece of land.

00:33:11.440 It's like,

00:33:11.840 you know,

00:33:12.540 it's not like you get to go to the courthouse and nine groundhogs get to show 0.98

00:33:15.640 up and be like,

00:33:16.280 yeah,

00:33:16.600 what's the deal?

00:33:17.400 I mean,

00:33:17.700 you buy a farm,

00:33:18.660 and they level it out and build subdivisions.

00:33:20.800 Those groundhogs are still there. 1.00

00:33:22.060 Right.

00:33:22.660 And they're going to come up to your front porch under your bushes up against

00:33:26.620 your barn or garage.

00:33:28.560 And they're going to dig their holes because you're in their world.

00:33:32.180 That's their area.

00:33:33.400 And then that,

00:33:34.560 and then they're cute and cuddly and not really a big harm when they're out in

00:33:38.320 nature,

00:33:38.720 other than the cow or horse,

00:33:40.300 you know,

00:33:40.500 stepping in the hole,

00:33:41.340 maybe breaking their leg,

00:33:42.800 something or,

00:33:43.400 you know,

00:33:43.640 something like that.

00:33:44.460 But then when they invade your house,

00:33:46.320 then they're a pest and then they got to go.

00:33:48.460 Most people don't ever encounter something like that until they become a

00:33:51.420 pest.

00:33:52.000 Right.

00:33:52.420 Right.

00:33:52.700 Yeah.

00:33:52.820 Cause you don't notice it really.

00:33:54.300 Yeah.

00:33:54.480 They're,

00:33:54.680 they're neat.

00:33:55.160 Oh,

00:33:55.340 look at the groundhog in the neighbor's yard over there.

00:33:57.460 And then next summer when that groundhog had babies and some of their babies

00:34:01.080 come to your house or grown,

00:34:02.900 start digging.

00:34:03.520 Then it's not cute anymore.

00:34:04.620 Then they,

00:34:05.380 then they call us.

00:34:06.700 It is interesting how animals go from that.

00:34:08.760 There's that real fine line from cute to pest,

00:34:11.380 didn't there?

00:34:11.780 Yeah.

00:34:12.500 There's that real fine line.

00:34:13.780 Baby raccoons are adorable.

00:34:15.340 I mean,

00:34:15.620 they're,

00:34:16.020 well,

00:34:16.320 they're so cute.

00:34:17.540 My grandmother didn't really like me.

00:34:19.760 And,

00:34:19.900 uh,

00:34:20.660 whenever she died or,

00:34:22.680 she was still alive,

00:34:23.660 but we,

00:34:25.080 we didn't get along well,

00:34:25.780 but,

00:34:28.020 I remember this lady told me one time,

00:34:29.940 my grandma didn't like me. 0.71

00:34:30.800 This was her friend.

00:34:31.840 Her friend told me that.

00:34:32.900 And her friend had a raccoon on her, 1.00

00:34:34.560 which told me her friend kept a raccoon as a pet.

00:34:37.260 Do you see a lot of people keeping animals?

00:34:40.340 And I remember thinking,

00:34:41.220 well,

00:34:42.000 I,

00:34:42.800 yeah,

00:34:42.940 anyway,

00:34:43.160 I don't know why I told you that,

00:34:43.820 but I remember just thinking,

00:34:45.000 well,

00:34:45.940 what in the, 1.00

00:34:46.560 why did my grandmother even have this lady as a friend who has a damn raccoon? 1.00

00:34:49.400 Why is this lady her friend? 0.99

00:34:50.320 But she doesn't like me.

00:34:51.020 That's what I'm thinking.

00:34:51.840 Okay.

00:34:52.160 But anyway,

00:34:52.880 um,

00:34:54.420 you see people,

00:34:55.660 starting to take on animals where it seems a little bit like it's more about them than it is about the animal.

00:35:04.280 You know,

00:35:04.600 it's a little bit more.

00:35:06.060 Status.

00:35:06.640 Yeah.

00:35:07.000 There's something going on sometimes. 0.54

00:35:08.720 They're trying to have a little bootleg ass Noah's Ark in their bathtub or something. 1.00

00:35:12.400 Have you run into some stuff like that where somebody calls you?

00:35:14.900 It's like,

00:35:15.160 Hey,

00:35:15.380 look,

00:35:15.740 buddy,

00:35:16.120 you know,

00:35:16.460 like I had a small,

00:35:17.860 you know,

00:35:18.200 like I had a small dream of doing a little bit of Dr. 0.99

00:35:20.840 Doolittle shit in the garage. 0.99

00:35:22.280 I've had a couple. 1.00

00:35:23.000 Only things have gotten out of control.

00:35:24.900 Had a couple.

00:35:25.820 Uh,

00:35:25.980 it mainly happens on like a rental property where somebody has had a pet raccoon.

00:35:30.840 Okay.

00:35:31.220 So,

00:35:31.380 so it starts with the right.

00:35:32.280 So it's usually raccoons.

00:35:33.280 Yeah.

00:35:33.580 It's usually a raccoon.

00:35:34.900 Sometimes squirrels.

00:35:35.980 They know somebody finds a young raccoon.

00:35:38.780 Oh yeah.

00:35:39.120 You know,

00:35:39.340 kid,

00:35:39.720 something happens.

00:35:40.280 They find a little young raccoon,

00:35:41.540 not scared of humans and they take it and they try to make it a pet,

00:35:44.980 which I mean is,

00:35:46.260 what do they do?

00:35:47.020 I don't know about Tennessee's laws.

00:35:48.640 I'm not licensed here,

00:35:49.800 but in,

00:35:50.660 in Kentucky,

00:35:51.700 it's,

00:35:52.400 it's against the law to keep,

00:35:53.540 to have a pet,

00:35:54.100 any animals,

00:35:55.340 indigenous to the state,

00:35:56.320 deer,

00:35:56.680 raccoon,

00:35:57.380 turt,

00:35:57.640 doe. 0.99

00:35:57.940 Okay.

00:35:58.100 So take me back.

00:35:58.700 Hold on.

00:35:58.880 So let's slow that down for me and for our listeners.

00:36:01.540 But so what does that mean?

00:36:02.520 Any animal that's indigenous?

00:36:03.580 Well,

00:36:03.820 I mean,

00:36:04.060 any animal,

00:36:05.080 it's,

00:36:05.360 it's a common animal in the state.

00:36:07.860 Oh,

00:36:08.180 raccoon,

00:36:09.060 possum,

00:36:09.680 fox,

00:36:10.260 squirrel.

00:36:10.820 You cannot have those as pets.

00:36:12.000 Yeah.

00:36:12.200 You're not allowed to,

00:36:12.820 you're not allowed to keep the wildlife as a pet.

00:36:15.000 Even like rehabilitate.

00:36:16.620 Even if you think you're doing,

00:36:17.680 you're not,

00:36:18.140 you're not supposed to not saying they're going to come get you.

00:36:20.420 Right.

00:36:20.980 But,

00:36:21.480 but there's some laws.

00:36:22.100 I mean,

00:36:22.340 they do know.

00:36:23.260 I'm,

00:36:23.600 I'm,

00:36:24.100 I have some conservation officer friends and they do receive calls and

00:36:27.360 complaints about people,

00:36:28.320 pet deer,

00:36:29.560 pet raccoons.

00:36:30.920 And you,

00:36:31.500 I mean,

00:36:31.820 they're still a wild animal. 1.00

00:36:33.600 Damn. 1.00

00:36:34.200 The raccoons, 1.00

00:36:35.060 they can be,

00:36:35.960 I mean,

00:36:36.200 you can have a raccoon and,

00:36:38.180 if you,

00:36:38.720 if you Google it,

00:36:39.780 they'll,

00:36:40.140 they'll turn,

00:36:41.220 you know,

00:36:41.520 a raccoon might be fine for a couple of years. 0.90

00:36:44.140 And then they've turned and attacked children,

00:36:46.360 toddlers,

00:36:47.160 babies in their sleep.

00:36:48.120 I mean,

00:36:48.300 they,

00:36:48.920 they're still a wild animal.

00:36:50.600 Just,

00:36:51.100 you know.

00:36:51.300 So what usually,

00:36:52.640 like,

00:36:52.840 how do people,

00:36:53.540 first,

00:36:53.800 let me get into,

00:36:54.480 if people have a raccoon,

00:36:55.680 what do they try to do to have it really be part of their little life?

00:36:58.640 Like, 0.99

00:36:58.780 I see sometimes they'll put a little diaper on it or they'll put a damn little, 1.00

00:37:01.820 uh, 0.99

00:37:02.480 necklace on it or something.

00:37:03.940 You see them maybe get a little bit of a,

00:37:06.400 you know,

00:37:06.760 I've seen one had a little, 0.98

00:37:07.940 even somebody made it a little damn amulet thing for its wrist. 0.98

00:37:12.200 You know what I'm saying? 0.98

00:37:12.480 Like,

00:37:12.620 you see people really try and make them human in some way.

00:37:17.500 Have you come in at somebody,

00:37:18.740 you ever,

00:37:19.000 you know, 0.97

00:37:19.180 if you had to go and you find something and it's wearing a damn, 0.98

00:37:21.500 you know, 0.98

00:37:22.140 uh,

00:37:22.860 eyes odd shirt or something,

00:37:24.360 or,

00:37:24.480 you know, 0.97

00:37:24.660 have you ever found anything like that where somebody's got a damn homemade 0.99

00:37:27.100 outfit, 0.98

00:37:27.700 you know,

00:37:27.860 got some,

00:37:28.720 you know,

00:37:29.160 little baby,

00:37:29.780 uh, 1.00

00:37:30.680 Birkenstocks on a damn, 1.00

00:37:32.140 uh, 0.99

00:37:33.000 on a raccoon or anything like that?

00:37:34.660 No,

00:37:34.760 I mean,

00:37:34.980 I've,

00:37:35.200 I've run across people with pet raccoons and it's cool.

00:37:38.240 I mean,

00:37:38.480 they,

00:37:38.780 that's their prerogative.

00:37:40.140 They got them dressed up or not?

00:37:41.480 No,

00:37:41.760 they,

00:37:41.940 I mean,

00:37:42.120 they'll have,

00:37:42.480 I've seen them with collars on them,

00:37:43.880 you know,

00:37:44.040 little decorative collars,

00:37:45.300 but not dressed.

00:37:45.880 I mean,

00:37:46.080 if you put something on a raccoon,

00:37:47.220 it's going to pull it off.

00:37:48.520 I mean,

00:37:48.780 they're,

00:37:49.140 they're pretty,

00:37:49.620 they're pretty,

00:37:50.040 they're very smart animal.

00:37:51.440 They're going to pull it off.

00:37:52.460 I mean,

00:37:52.640 I've seen people pet squirrels and you get them as a baby.

00:37:55.920 I mean,

00:37:56.200 they're,

00:37:56.480 but they're still a wild animal.

00:37:58.900 And do any,

00:37:59.440 so is there a,

00:38:00.100 is there something you can do to keep it domesticated so it doesn't turn wild again?

00:38:05.500 I mean,

00:38:05.740 everything can turn.

00:38:06.960 I mean,

00:38:07.720 I don't personally know.

00:38:08.840 I've known,

00:38:09.180 I've raised a few deer up for a small,

00:38:11.620 a little bit of time.

00:38:13.840 As I had one that we,

00:38:15.800 that would,

00:38:16.240 that got out of the job and I kept it for a while.

00:38:18.480 And then it turned.

00:38:19.160 Well,

00:38:19.300 I took it to the rehabilitator and I get dough or a phone call,

00:38:23.860 baby deer,

00:38:24.400 get abandoned.

00:38:25.340 I mean,

00:38:25.620 like on a deer,

00:38:26.620 I'm,

00:38:27.080 we're getting off the subject here.

00:38:28.500 The,

00:38:28.920 the worst thing to like,

00:38:29.780 people say,

00:38:30.440 I found a baby deer is mama. 0.96

00:38:32.620 And when she takes her,

00:38:33.420 when she has her baby,

00:38:34.320 she'll place it away from her to keep,

00:38:36.740 she keeps away from it as much as he can,

00:38:38.860 not to put any sin on it.

00:38:40.000 That way a predator won't find it.

00:38:42.160 So when she beds the baby deer down,

00:38:44.840 she'll put it down and she'll leave and go away from him.

00:38:47.380 And she's just a couple hundred yards away,

00:38:49.340 but that way if something comes,

00:38:51.140 it don't get her baby. 1.00

00:38:52.100 And people,

00:38:52.600 if all here's an abandoned deer,

00:38:54.300 Oh,

00:38:54.440 I'm going to help it.

00:38:55.160 I'm going to save it.

00:38:55.620 Once you touch it,

00:38:56.380 it's done.

00:38:56.940 She's not going to take that baby back. 1.00

00:38:58.640 It's got you human sin on it.

00:39:00.100 And then they'll call it.

00:39:01.240 They'll try to raise it themselves or they'll call me or call a game warden.

00:39:05.720 And then we take them,

00:39:06.820 you know,

00:39:07.040 I've kept them for several weeks,

00:39:08.380 you know,

00:39:08.540 just getting them back on their feet,

00:39:10.100 bottle feeding them and then take them to a rehabber in which they are,

00:39:13.480 they're a licensed rehabber and they raise them up.

00:39:15.660 They'll raise them up to where they can survive on their own and release them

00:39:18.160 back in the wild.

00:39:18.920 Okay.

00:39:19.540 And they do that with all,

00:39:20.460 I mean,

00:39:20.620 they do that with all animals.

00:39:22.380 I mean,

00:39:23.120 baby raccoons,

00:39:24.040 we can take them to a rehabber and they can rate,

00:39:26.920 they'll bottle feed them,

00:39:27.800 raise them up and release them back into the wild.

00:39:29.700 Okay.

00:39:30.400 Okay.

00:39:31.040 Let's get a question that came in from one of our listeners here.

00:39:34.620 We've got a lot of great listeners on this podcast and real grateful for that.

00:39:38.580 And here's a man right here that had a question about something decent man.

00:39:43.140 What up,

00:39:43.820 Theo?

00:39:44.340 What up,

00:39:44.940 Nick?

00:39:45.480 What up?

00:39:47.040 Animal police,

00:39:48.140 man.

00:39:48.420 I got a question for you guys.

00:39:50.240 What's hard,

00:39:50.740 what's harder to catch in the streets?

00:39:52.240 One of these young cats or one of them dog dogs out there.

00:39:58.900 What's harder to catch out on the streets when you're working?

00:40:01.700 By the way,

00:40:02.220 Theo,

00:40:02.880 thank you for that gang merch just came in.

00:40:05.680 Oh man.

00:40:06.660 Official.

00:40:07.960 That new edition with the hit her in the front,

00:40:13.520 baby.

00:40:14.680 People make a lot of bootleg merchandise and sell it.

00:40:17.620 And that's bootleg brother.

00:40:18.640 Sorry.

00:40:18.920 That's unbelievably bootleg.

00:40:20.500 Dear God.

00:40:22.240 Uh,

00:40:22.880 so that's a good question,

00:40:25.920 man.

00:40:26.780 That,

00:40:27.340 that is a,

00:40:28.200 that's a good question.

00:40:29.240 Um,

00:40:29.660 a lot of wildlife operators will not touch a cat.

00:40:33.160 Okay.

00:40:33.760 We don't normally ever fool with a canine because you have dog pound,

00:40:37.920 uh,

00:40:38.520 dog warden,

00:40:39.320 but there's no cat warden.

00:40:41.480 Oh,

00:40:41.820 okay.

00:40:42.080 And I,

00:40:43.460 I myself,

00:40:44.180 I do cat work.

00:40:45.180 I do feral cat work.

00:40:46.360 Oh,

00:40:46.440 you do cat work.

00:40:47.080 Oh,

00:40:47.140 you do cat work.

00:40:47.740 I do some cat work.

00:40:48.380 Be honest.

00:40:48.800 You do cat work.

00:40:49.300 Yeah.

00:40:49.560 I do feral cat work.

00:40:51.520 Okay.

00:40:51.880 I'm just saying now,

00:40:52.940 hold on.

00:40:53.380 Who's feral cat?

00:40:54.720 A while.

00:40:55.340 Not,

00:40:55.600 not a domesticate and domesticate.

00:40:57.240 It's just a cat that's running wild that you can't get close to.

00:41:00.900 Um,

00:41:01.320 I'm sure if you drive around,

00:41:02.560 I mean,

00:41:03.060 most towns and cities you drive and you'll see cats running everywhere.

00:41:06.040 Oh yeah.

00:41:06.420 We said that growing up.

00:41:07.260 Those are cats that just,

00:41:07.840 they just scavenge off whatever they can find.

00:41:10.660 You can't touch them.

00:41:11.440 They're just wild.

00:41:12.280 Oh dude,

00:41:12.580 I grew up in the stray animal belt,

00:41:13.760 man.

00:41:13.900 We had cats everywhere.

00:41:14.960 We had animals passing through town. 0.99

00:41:17.080 We had damn parakeet. 0.99

00:41:18.540 I mean, 1.00

00:41:18.680 everything came through town.

00:41:19.980 Groups of them,

00:41:20.600 you know?

00:41:20.760 Yeah.

00:41:20.860 I remember one summer I seen about 40 cats out there.

00:41:23.380 Well,

00:41:23.600 that's,

00:41:24.060 I mean,

00:41:24.280 you get a,

00:41:25.580 oh,

00:41:25.840 for instance,

00:41:26.200 it was like a town home community and they'll go from one or two cats and,

00:41:31.700 you know,

00:41:32.240 little old ladies feeding them.

00:41:33.680 She feels sorry for them.

00:41:35.080 To 60,

00:41:35.660 70 cats and they attack her while she's sleeping.

00:41:37.080 Well,

00:41:37.360 well,

00:41:37.660 a couple of female cats,

00:41:39.120 they get bred.

00:41:39.960 They have kittens within,

00:41:41.280 you know,

00:41:41.520 less than a year.

00:41:42.440 Those kittens will breed. 0.99

00:41:43.980 And then another year,

00:41:44.820 those kittens from those kittens will breed.

00:41:47.060 So it's like that story.

00:41:48.560 It can go really.

00:41:49.340 Then you got all these cats that are living.

00:41:51.080 They're going to get diseased because there's so many of them.

00:41:53.700 They get all over your cars.

00:41:55.780 Oh yeah. 1.00

00:41:56.520 Crap all and pee all around your bushes and stinks. 1.00

00:41:59.620 And then, 1.00

00:41:59.940 but you can't get close to them.

00:42:01.820 So that's when they,

00:42:03.000 they get up.

00:42:03.780 You know,

00:42:04.120 I'll do fair.

00:42:05.260 I'm not going to turn down work.

00:42:06.480 I try to help my community.

00:42:07.980 You know,

00:42:08.540 sometimes it's hard,

00:42:09.640 you know,

00:42:09.800 trying to find homes for them.

00:42:11.820 Some,

00:42:12.160 you know,

00:42:12.360 I have to struggle sometimes to find shelters.

00:42:14.700 It'll take the cat. 0.94

00:42:15.600 And when you pick them up,

00:42:16.400 you put them in the back seat or front seat?

00:42:17.920 Where do you put them?

00:42:18.380 They're in the back of the truck.

00:42:19.360 Oh really?

00:42:19.980 Oh yeah.

00:42:20.520 I don't.

00:42:21.220 A feral cat can be very mean because they're,

00:42:23.460 I mean,

00:42:23.680 they'll,

00:42:24.100 they'll reach right through that gate.

00:42:25.460 You know,

00:42:25.640 if it's big enough,

00:42:26.380 they'll try to reach through there.

00:42:28.080 A scratch from a cat can get very,

00:42:31.740 I mean,

00:42:32.020 can get infected because all,

00:42:33.280 all that dirt and stuff on their nails when they scratch you.

00:42:37.140 Some of them call cats,

00:42:39.780 cats scratch fever.

00:42:41.260 Yeah.

00:42:41.640 We used to play that at the library.

00:42:43.060 I've had scratch,

00:42:44.480 been scratched by cats,

00:42:45.620 trying to handle them with my big gloves on and they'll get real infected.

00:42:49.100 I mean,

00:42:49.320 they'll get,

00:42:49.700 you got to work.

00:42:49.940 And that was a song too.

00:42:50.920 Whose song was that?

00:42:51.760 Bring that up.

00:42:54.220 Yeah.

00:42:54.640 Play a little bit of that,

00:42:55.480 man.

00:42:55.700 That's Ted Nuggan.

00:42:56.480 So when you hear this,

00:42:58.760 I bet this,

00:42:59.280 you should play this.

00:42:59.960 This should be your dang alarm when you wake up in the morning.

00:43:02.120 I'm going in.

00:43:02.700 Yeah.

00:43:03.260 Huh?

00:43:03.860 They can,

00:43:06.200 I mean,

00:43:06.500 I could go to a job like that and maybe capture 30 cats.

00:43:10.140 I mean,

00:43:10.340 no.

00:43:11.780 That scratch fever.

00:43:13.300 That's good,

00:43:13.960 man.

00:43:14.620 You just got to,

00:43:15.120 with any wildlife,

00:43:15.980 you got to be careful where proper PPE,

00:43:18.800 right?

00:43:19.200 You know,

00:43:19.400 when I was full of the cats,

00:43:20.420 I'll wear bite-proof gloves that come up to about my elbow.

00:43:22.860 Really?

00:43:23.120 That way they can't scratch me.

00:43:24.740 I don't,

00:43:25.240 you know,

00:43:25.560 I don't want to get full of getting affected and have to nurse a wound.

00:43:29.480 You know,

00:43:29.660 it's hard enough doing my work anyway,

00:43:32.140 but we don't do any dogs.

00:43:34.500 No,

00:43:35.000 I just,

00:43:35.400 that's getting too,

00:43:36.180 I'll do cats.

00:43:37.000 You know,

00:43:37.580 if I do a cat job,

00:43:38.820 you know,

00:43:39.020 it has to be a certain,

00:43:40.560 you know,

00:43:41.020 I won't like,

00:43:41.960 if you just pissed at the neighbor's cat,

00:43:43.960 I'm not going to come do that.

00:43:45.060 Oh,

00:43:45.200 I wouldn't do that.

00:43:45.820 I mean,

00:43:46.120 I'm not.

00:43:46.500 I used to piss around my bed when I was growing up though,

00:43:48.100 dude.

00:43:48.200 I'll tell you this,

00:43:48.780 this is a true story.

00:43:49.920 So when I was growing up,

00:43:50.500 I was real scared,

00:43:51.280 right?

00:43:51.400 We grew up in a pretty scary area and I remember hearing when I was young,

00:43:55.660 and I've talked about this a bunch on this podcast,

00:43:57.100 but I remember hearing when I was young,

00:43:59.420 if,

00:43:59.720 if animals smell urine,

00:44:01.120 they won't come by,

00:44:02.240 you know,

00:44:02.580 that's what I remember hearing.

00:44:03.740 So I was so scared.

00:44:04.940 I would pee or I would stand on my bed at night and pee around it in like a

00:44:08.060 semicircle so that no animals came to get me.

00:44:10.960 Cause I was so scared of like,

00:44:12.720 huh?

00:44:13.100 Yeah.

00:44:13.240 I never got attacked by anything,

00:44:14.320 you know,

00:44:14.740 or anything,

00:44:15.140 uh,

00:44:15.760 indoors.

00:44:16.700 But yeah,

00:44:17.220 it's just crazy to think that as a kid,

00:44:18.880 you know,

00:44:19.120 that you have,

00:44:20.000 uh,

00:44:21.040 you know,

00:44:21.620 just that you hear stuff like that and,

00:44:23.060 and,

00:44:23.340 and how to heart you can take it as a child.

00:44:25.980 When you say that there's no dog,

00:44:28.380 um,

00:44:29.120 police,

00:44:29.520 I start to see that there's probably some jurisdiction issues.

00:44:32.220 Do you ever run into jurisdiction issues where the dog catcher has got

00:44:35.740 issue with you because you're trying to,

00:44:38.240 you know,

00:44:38.880 you're kind of do,

00:44:39.760 I don't do any dog.

00:44:40.960 And why not?

00:44:41.780 And you can be honest with me.

00:44:43.040 I mean,

00:44:43.260 I just,

00:44:43.720 cause I mean,

00:44:44.140 it's somebody's pet.

00:44:45.520 I mean,

00:44:46.020 there's not that many.

00:44:46.780 So there's more emotion involved in it.

00:44:48.280 I mean,

00:44:48.680 I'm just,

00:44:49.080 you're getting too much,

00:44:50.360 even with the cats,

00:44:51.340 you know,

00:44:51.600 I'll do a job and I'm like,

00:44:53.960 you know,

00:44:54.240 this is going to be a neighbor's cats.

00:44:55.600 And yeah,

00:44:55.840 I can't know.

00:44:56.900 Usually a cat problem.

00:44:58.100 Is it like a,

00:44:58.840 a shopping or a restaurant?

00:45:01.400 You know,

00:45:01.860 the employees are getting bombarded by all these stray cats that are around the

00:45:05.200 dumpsters.

00:45:06.000 Oh,

00:45:06.200 I'll tell you stuff like that.

00:45:07.320 Now I don't go into,

00:45:08.440 you know,

00:45:10.220 Betty,

00:45:10.580 Betty in the neighborhood has got a cat and she wants you to get rid of it.

00:45:13.720 Cause she's pissed at the neighbor and it's her cat. 1.00

00:45:15.600 Now I mean,

00:45:16.040 it's too much legal issue there and bad publicity.

00:45:19.520 Right.

00:45:19.820 Now that's a good point too.

00:45:20.980 That's why you don't want to get in there.

00:45:21.960 I mean,

00:45:22.300 a lot of my friends,

00:45:23.180 they won't touch a cat job just for that fact.

00:45:26.260 I'm picky about my,

00:45:27.620 I get a lot like factories,

00:45:29.780 uh,

00:45:30.120 power plants.

00:45:31.140 We'll get,

00:45:31.520 no cats will come in.

00:45:32.780 People dump cats off.

00:45:34.020 They ride in your vehicles up in the engine compartment when it's cold.

00:45:36.940 And then they multiply and they got to go.

00:45:39.520 I mean,

00:45:39.740 they're,

00:45:40.320 it's a health risk.

00:45:42.040 Usually you drop them at the power plant.

00:45:43.880 They're going to go somehow.

00:45:45.040 You know what I'm saying?

00:45:45.580 I feel like that's kind of that.

00:45:47.380 You know,

00:45:47.580 a lot of people used to do that.

00:45:48.760 They drop them off at the power plant and let,

00:45:50.460 you know,

00:45:51.720 and let,

00:45:52.420 you know,

00:45:52.860 let it happen,

00:45:54.840 you know,

00:45:55.140 let it kind of work out that cat scratch fever right there,

00:45:57.920 bro.

00:45:58.320 But how about this?

00:45:59.080 So what I'm trying to figure out is,

00:46:00.800 um,

00:46:02.040 so when it comes to the domestic animals,

00:46:04.840 that's not really your line of work.

00:46:06.620 No.

00:46:06.820 How did you get from your,

00:46:08.860 the,

00:46:09.280 your grandfather gives you the trap and you're trapping stuff around the way.

00:46:12.600 How do you then get into the echelon where you stay in that vein for most

00:46:16.760 of your youth and childhood?

00:46:18.680 And,

00:46:19.200 uh,

00:46:19.940 and then you just get into it as a profession.

00:46:22.040 When did that start?

00:46:23.120 Well,

00:46:23.380 I grew up hunting,

00:46:24.940 fishing,

00:46:25.340 trapping.

00:46:25.760 My grandfather taught me everything.

00:46:28.200 And then I get into the,

00:46:29.540 the job world,

00:46:31.340 work a couple of jobs.

00:46:32.180 And then I worked for,

00:46:33.320 uh,

00:46:33.400 my last one was for a rock mine close to where I live underground mine.

00:46:37.480 And I still trapped,

00:46:39.180 no,

00:46:39.420 honest,

00:46:39.760 no,

00:46:40.080 just little stuff.

00:46:41.220 And somebody would call me,

00:46:42.500 Hey,

00:46:42.660 I've got groundhogs in my barn.

00:46:44.120 Can you come get rid of them?

00:46:45.700 Like,

00:46:46.000 yeah,

00:46:46.400 I could probably do that.

00:46:47.520 And I come over and trap them.

00:46:48.780 They're like,

00:46:49.100 well,

00:46:49.360 here's 20 bucks or here's a six pack or,

00:46:52.380 you know,

00:46:52.800 be not,

00:46:53.180 no,

00:46:53.360 give me a little bit of something.

00:46:54.780 Oh yeah.

00:46:55.180 And so I've got this raccoon.

00:46:57.680 I heard your,

00:46:58.280 you trap.

00:46:59.040 Can you come get rid of it?

00:47:00.380 Then I started looking,

00:47:01.460 no,

00:47:02.340 I can make money at this.

00:47:04.100 I could do this for real.

00:47:06.040 No,

00:47:06.220 I started reaching out,

00:47:07.440 looking on Facebook,

00:47:09.240 find another,

00:47:09.920 uh,

00:47:10.480 wildlife guys.

00:47:11.700 Um,

00:47:12.120 one of them,

00:47:12.720 it taught me a lot of stuff.

00:47:14.120 My mentor,

00:47:14.740 Ronnie Vincent,

00:47:15.680 which is about,

00:47:16.440 uh,

00:47:17.380 150 miles away from me.

00:47:19.120 And he kind of took me under,

00:47:21.620 told me how,

00:47:22.260 no,

00:47:22.640 get me started.

00:47:23.660 What,

00:47:24.040 no,

00:47:24.380 just kind of get tips where new guys get into the business and just evolved from there.

00:47:29.020 Went from trapping,

00:47:29.860 loving the trap.

00:47:30.700 This,

00:47:31.020 you got to be a trapper to do this.

00:47:32.860 You just can't,

00:47:33.580 I mean,

00:47:33.820 you can't just go buy trap.

00:47:35.140 You could go buy traps and do it,

00:47:36.420 but you got to know how to lure the animal in,

00:47:40.240 what baits work best,

00:47:42.400 what areas they're going to use to come,

00:47:44.100 no runways or travel away.

00:47:45.760 You got to have a little bit of background in it where it really helps to do that.

00:47:50.340 So it,

00:47:50.620 it just evolved from trapping as a kid,

00:47:53.340 loving animals to wanting to change your career.

00:47:56.540 So I quit my other job as a minor and was already farming.

00:48:01.700 So farming full time.

00:48:03.000 And then I started my wildlife business.

00:48:05.340 And so,

00:48:05.820 um,

00:48:06.580 so Ronnie was,

00:48:07.620 you kind of worked as an apprentice in some way under,

00:48:09.500 you know,

00:48:09.660 Ronnie just giving you a lot of guide,

00:48:11.020 like guidance.

00:48:12.020 If I had a problem,

00:48:12.740 I'd call him.

00:48:13.360 I was on the phone with him every day.

00:48:15.060 He knew what was going on.

00:48:15.840 And it's like,

00:48:16.260 man,

00:48:16.480 I've got this hat.

00:48:17.980 What's the best way,

00:48:19.000 you know,

00:48:19.160 I can,

00:48:20.000 I can catch a squirrel outside somewhere.

00:48:22.440 What's the best way to catch it on a house?

00:48:24.180 You know,

00:48:24.420 and I got to,

00:48:25.740 you know,

00:48:25.920 I had to take,

00:48:26.520 I had to study and take my tests to the state fish and wildlife to be a

00:48:29.960 nuisance control operator and had to study guide.

00:48:32.720 And I bought a new co,

00:48:34.660 which is,

00:48:35.060 is a,

00:48:35.500 um,

00:48:36.560 an organization for the wildlife operators and some of their core online courses and

00:48:41.380 some of their books and literature to just get more from animal

00:48:45.720 trapping in the wild to adapt into your house.

00:48:49.060 Okay.

00:48:49.620 Right on.

00:48:50.060 The difference from trapping a raccoon in somebody's barn to,

00:48:52.560 to making a positive set on a house and it's in your soffit and you're 25,

00:48:58.240 30 feet off the ground with a trap upside down under the soffit.

00:49:02.880 We'll try to screw it down and attach it to your side of your house.

00:49:06.500 Do you ever have to like fingerprint or dust for prance or do any kind of like

00:49:10.100 track?

00:49:10.580 Like,

00:49:10.760 is there any detective type style work,

00:49:13.660 you know?

00:49:14.300 Yeah.

00:49:14.660 Um,

00:49:15.180 one thing that we use a lot now is cameras.

00:49:18.080 Um,

00:49:18.480 um,

00:49:19.120 I use a spy point cell cameras.

00:49:21.620 It goes,

00:49:21.900 sends a pictures to your cell phone.

00:49:23.440 There's other ones,

00:49:24.140 uh,

00:49:24.600 are low cameras that do video.

00:49:27.000 And we use that.

00:49:28.380 I've got three going on jobs.

00:49:29.800 Now I mean,

00:49:30.160 we all use that to monitor,

00:49:31.820 um,

00:49:32.840 say,

00:49:33.240 uh,

00:49:33.520 are they coming and going here?

00:49:34.820 So I'll put that camera up and now it'll send an alert to my phone.

00:49:38.940 I know when that raccoon's coming and going.

00:49:41.060 And they're motion sensitive.

00:49:42.240 Well,

00:49:42.480 yeah,

00:49:42.700 it's motion,

00:49:43.320 motion sensitive.

00:49:44.460 Uh,

00:49:44.740 another trick that we use that I've used,

00:49:47.280 um,

00:49:48.960 if I suspect something's coming and going,

00:49:50.900 don't really know what it is.

00:49:51.900 I'll take flour,

00:49:52.920 put some flour down on a piece of cardboard.

00:49:55.500 And when they step through that,

00:49:57.040 they'll leave their tracks.

00:49:58.100 We do that.

00:49:58.600 We,

00:49:58.800 yeah,

00:49:59.100 we do that for Santa,

00:50:00.640 you know?

00:50:01.040 Yeah.

00:50:01.200 I had to see a Santa come through.

00:50:02.480 Yeah. 1.00

00:50:02.880 And one time it was my damn brother. 1.00

00:50:04.240 He'd been drinking. 1.00

00:50:04.860 And he damn came through and he actually, 0.99

00:50:06.960 speaking of urinating on stuff, 0.99

00:50:08.180 he urinated on something.

00:50:09.940 Um, 0.98

00:50:10.900 what type of animal has the most sex out there? 0.96

00:50:13.680 I wonder when people think,

00:50:14.880 cause a lot of animals,

00:50:15.640 you see a lot of animals and you'll see them with their children,

00:50:18.380 but you don't hear about the sex a lot of times.

00:50:21.240 Um,

00:50:21.760 is there a lot of animals where animal,

00:50:23.900 the actual mating becomes a problem for a homeowner where that is the issue?

00:50:29.040 A lot of times.

00:50:30.040 I mean,

00:50:30.360 uh,

00:50:31.880 I don't think that's really an issue.

00:50:33.600 I mean,

00:50:33.880 I've never,

00:50:34.740 I've never had somebody call and say,

00:50:36.480 well, 0.99

00:50:37.100 these raccoons keep having sex. 1.00

00:50:38.640 Can you come get rid of them? 1.00

00:50:39.700 I've never really had that.

00:50:41.840 I mean,

00:50:42.480 but I mean,

00:50:43.580 could you see it happening?

00:50:44.720 Possibly?

00:50:45.400 Well,

00:50:45.600 it's all in the cover of dark.

00:50:46.900 I mean,

00:50:47.060 there are nocturnal animals.

00:50:48.380 They only come out at night and that's something they're probably not going to do in your front yard for you.

00:50:53.200 But you know what?

00:50:54.500 Like,

00:50:54.620 yeah,

00:50:54.960 yeah,

00:50:55.200 that's true.

00:50:57.020 But I mean,

00:50:57.680 I guess when they get into the house to mate,

00:50:59.420 I guess would do people.

00:51:00.380 Well,

00:51:00.580 they'll be mating.

00:51:01.460 A raccoon will mate. 1.00

00:51:02.240 They'll mate.

00:51:02.860 They won't go in the house to mate. 0.98

00:51:04.260 Are they mate outdoors?

00:51:04.840 They'll mate somewhere when she comes in the heat and she finds a suitor and she accepts him and they mate.

00:51:11.640 And then she'll seek out a den place to have her babies, 1.00

00:51:14.680 which would be your attic or under your house.

00:51:17.700 Okay.

00:51:17.980 Yeah.

00:51:18.140 They don't,

00:51:18.500 they don't go in your house to mate. 1.00

00:51:20.200 Okay.

00:51:20.540 They're going to mate.

00:51:21.280 She's going in her house to keep away from that guy.

00:51:23.700 She don't want him back.

00:51:24.700 She wants to keep away from him and anything else that could hurt her babies.

00:51:28.000 Right.

00:51:28.560 It's like Planned Parenthood almost a little bit,

00:51:30.380 kind of.

00:51:30.740 Yeah.

00:51:31.200 Or something you get a pamphlet for there.

00:51:33.840 Let's get another question that came in right here.

00:51:35.780 What do we have showing that really some people are inquiring?

00:51:38.100 Man,

00:51:38.320 do you feel okay?

00:51:38.860 I want to make sure you feel comfortable.

00:51:39.940 Do you?

00:51:40.460 Yeah.

00:51:40.860 Okay,

00:51:41.060 good.

00:51:41.320 I'm loving it now.

00:51:42.080 Okay,

00:51:42.340 good.

00:51:42.660 Good,

00:51:42.940 good,

00:51:43.120 good,

00:51:43.140 good,

00:51:43.280 man.

00:51:43.860 Yeah,

00:51:44.060 no,

00:51:44.180 this is all really cool information,

00:51:45.900 man.

00:51:46.920 Just little pieces of it are just so fascinating.

00:51:49.220 It's just like things you just wouldn't think about.

00:51:51.620 So let's keep going.

00:51:52.840 What do we got here?

00:51:53.360 We got a young fella right here who's got an animal.

00:51:55.800 What's up,

00:51:56.360 Theo?

00:51:56.760 What's up,

00:51:57.200 Animal Wrangler?

00:51:58.800 This is Cody from Arkansas.

00:52:00.520 I was just calling to ask,

00:52:02.140 what is like the biggest injury or anything that you've got from trying to wrangle an animal?

00:52:08.540 Anyways,

00:52:09.140 thanks guys.

00:52:10.440 Gang,

00:52:10.680 gang.

00:52:11.600 Yeah,

00:52:12.040 how violent is the game?

00:52:13.120 Is it an ACL?

00:52:14.060 What happens out there?

00:52:14.940 Is it carpal tunnel?

00:52:15.960 What happens when you're dealing with these animals?

00:52:17.680 My biggest injury is I've had two ladders break on me.

00:52:21.200 That's my biggest injury wise.

00:52:23.640 It's put me in a hospital for a little bit.

00:52:25.140 No,

00:52:25.340 not nothing broke.

00:52:26.660 Just I've had two ladders fail.

00:52:28.540 When I go up and down ladders,

00:52:30.800 I mean,

00:52:31.100 it might be 30 times a day for me.

00:52:32.700 And I'm small time,

00:52:34.100 you know,

00:52:34.480 and you're going to have an end.

00:52:35.860 You're going to have something happen.

00:52:38.780 Actual animals.

00:52:40.180 Had one happen last summer for this nice lady. 1.00

00:52:43.460 It's a church parsonage in area where I work at.

00:52:46.820 And had raccoons coming in her house. 1.00

00:52:49.380 Then through the attic,

00:52:50.100 normal spots in this office.

00:52:51.720 So I catch the raccoons.

00:52:52.580 She calls me,

00:52:53.260 Hey,

00:52:53.420 you've got a raccoon. 0.95

00:52:54.440 So I come over and she's out back.

00:52:56.940 And she's,

00:52:57.800 it's the parsonage.

00:53:00.260 I guess it would have been,

00:53:01.120 been the pastor's wife or family.

00:53:04.160 And so I'm a talking to her and she's asking me these questions.

00:53:08.020 I'm telling her,

00:53:08.660 we're going to put another trap back up there,

00:53:10.300 ma'am.

00:53:10.560 And I have my assistant,

00:53:11.500 my assistant,

00:53:12.660 Tim,

00:53:13.020 my one employee.

00:53:13.800 He was already putting another trap back up over the hole.

00:53:16.660 And as I was talking to her,

00:53:18.480 I kind of let my guard down.

00:53:19.760 I reached down and grabbed the trap.

00:53:21.420 I picked it up from the top.

00:53:23.560 I had it sitting towards on up and straight up and down.

00:53:26.220 And I grabbed the end of it and stuck my finger into the cage where,

00:53:30.360 where she could find it.

00:53:32.700 And she grabbed a hold of me.

00:53:34.580 And neither does it say,

00:53:35.460 I let out pretty good scream and a few words I shouldn't have in front of the 0.68

00:53:40.080 priest's wife. 0.99

00:53:41.580 I felt kind of bad,

00:53:42.720 really bad,

00:53:43.760 apologized for it.

00:53:44.820 I mean,

00:53:45.080 bled all over everywhere.

00:53:47.160 I mean,

00:53:47.320 it was pretty good wound,

00:53:48.820 but I mean,

00:53:49.260 it's,

00:53:49.600 but I have,

00:53:50.300 I've been vaccinated for rabies.

00:53:53.040 Oh,

00:53:53.180 you have?

00:53:53.560 Yeah.

00:53:54.040 Well now,

00:53:54.580 so,

00:53:54.940 so,

00:53:55.280 so in that instance,

00:53:56.740 you had already a raccoon in the cage and you just put your hand too close to

00:54:00.220 it.

00:54:00.500 Well,

00:54:00.860 I,

00:54:01.080 I stuck my hand.

00:54:02.620 So the cage is straight up and down.

00:54:04.300 Right.

00:54:04.520 And I'll put my hands through the,

00:54:06.040 the end of it where the door is,

00:54:07.780 there's nothing there.

00:54:08.540 So I'll just put my hand,

00:54:09.860 fingers through the cage and pick it up.

00:54:11.420 Right.

00:54:11.520 Well,

00:54:12.080 I was talking to her and look the way as I was reaching it, 1.00

00:54:15.700 reaching for the cage and just wouldn't look and just stupid mistakes. 0.99

00:54:19.160 Stuck my fingers in where she could get him. 1.00

00:54:21.040 She went right after him and didn't want to let go was to grab and, 0.71

00:54:24.420 you know,

00:54:24.560 trying to get my finger.

00:54:25.800 And they bear,

00:54:26.640 they rip their finger off.

00:54:27.860 I mean,

00:54:27.980 really?

00:54:28.360 Yeah.

00:54:28.680 They're pretty strong.

00:54:29.500 You know,

00:54:29.700 I've been coon hunting and I've talked to coon hunters before.

00:54:32.800 We'd know how coon kill a dog, 0.99

00:54:34.360 a big boar coon kill a dog.

00:54:35.820 Wow.

00:54:36.020 They're,

00:54:36.220 they're a bad animal now.

00:54:37.460 Are they?

00:54:37.720 I don't want,

00:54:38.160 you definitely don't want them biting your finger.

00:54:40.340 I mean,

00:54:40.580 it bit right through my finger now.

00:54:42.060 Wow.

00:54:42.340 I mean,

00:54:42.500 it was,

00:54:42.860 it was pretty painful.

00:54:43.900 You don't want that.

00:54:44.940 You don't want to do it at the preacher's house.

00:54:46.720 Yeah.

00:54:48.320 That's the wrong place to do that.

00:54:49.600 Well,

00:54:49.820 at least look,

00:54:50.620 at least there they can pray for you,

00:54:52.260 baby boy.

00:54:53.140 She was sympathetic.

00:54:54.140 She understood.

00:54:54.800 Offered it.

00:54:55.520 She went,

00:54:56.140 got me some water to wash it off.

00:54:57.620 And she's really nice.

00:54:58.460 She understood.

00:55:00.580 Let's see what that animal looks like.

00:55:03.600 And you can get a 25,

00:55:04.680 30 pounds.

00:55:05.380 Wow.

00:55:06.600 Oh,

00:55:06.880 look at him right there.

00:55:07.580 Attacking a hog, 0.68

00:55:08.440 huh?

00:55:09.780 Look at him fighting.

00:55:10.920 Go back.

00:55:12.420 My God.

00:55:13.200 Look at him fighting.

00:55:14.920 Now,

00:55:15.440 now have you witnessed some good animal fights and be honest there?

00:55:19.000 I've seen,

00:55:19.560 I've had my dog.

00:55:20.500 I've been out before.

00:55:21.140 My dog get attacked by a raccoon and they're,

00:55:23.780 they're pretty,

00:55:24.840 I mean,

00:55:25.100 they're vicious.

00:55:25.680 They won't let a raccoon, 0.68

00:55:27.500 a bad raccoon.

00:55:29.020 Well,

00:55:29.520 instead of running,

00:55:30.700 he'll just lay up,

00:55:32.000 rear up on his back,

00:55:32.860 lay down his back and fight.

00:55:34.260 Oh yeah.

00:55:34.920 But that way he's got his back covered on the ground and fight.

00:55:39.140 It's almost like they teach you in MMA to kind of do that.

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00:58:25.400 When I was growing up, rabies was a big deal.

00:58:29.600 You know, I mean, it was just popular.

00:58:31.380 You would constantly hear about it, the fear of it, what was going on.

00:58:35.780 And then I get a text from somebody maybe a year ago and they said rabies is kind of making a comeback.

00:58:41.660 Have you heard of this?

00:58:42.860 Yeah, rabies in Kentucky, in my area of the state, it's gotten worse over the last couple of years.

00:58:51.060 Oh, Christ.

00:58:51.520 As in not, I don't know of people cases, but animals getting tested and getting the rabies.

00:58:57.740 The fox, raccoon, skunk, and coyotes are all in the rabies vector and we have to euthanize those now

00:59:05.380 because there's such a high number of rabies cases with them.

00:59:08.500 Now, you roll up on one of these, right?

00:59:10.600 One of these, you know, something that's rabid.

00:59:13.580 How do you know out of the gate?

00:59:16.340 I got a call last week from a car dealership at home.

00:59:19.840 Hey, we got this raccoon, or excuse me, excuse me, it's skunk.

00:59:23.940 We're getting animals mixed up.

00:59:25.120 It was a skunk.

00:59:26.060 They said it. 1.00

00:59:26.460 Oh, look, if a skunk gets its nails done, it's almost a damn raccoon. 0.99

00:59:29.260 I'll tell you that. 0.98

00:59:29.760 Well, it's in the middle of the parking lot at 12 o'clock at lunchtime.

00:59:34.240 Yeah.

00:59:34.620 And it's walking around in circles.

00:59:36.500 It's falling down.

00:59:38.380 It's stumbling.

00:59:39.220 It's stomping, which is what's something they do when they're threatened.

00:59:43.040 They'll stomp their, they'll rear up and take their feet and stomp the ground.

00:59:46.360 It's basically like seeing, like somebody that's cracked out on drugs.

00:59:49.020 And it's spraying.

00:59:49.780 It's spraying some, it's spraying some scent.

00:59:52.180 Oh, hell yeah.

00:59:52.920 Spraying its essence, which I call it.

00:59:55.500 It's skunk spray.

00:59:56.640 And it's doing that.

00:59:57.600 And I thought, well, it's, it's, it's, it's showing signs.

01:00:00.180 It's either got distemper or rabid. 0.99

01:00:03.280 Damn. 0.99

01:00:03.560 And so I come out and I end up, I just, I put my gloves on. 0.99

01:00:09.580 I brought a cage, put a cage down over next to it.

01:00:11.900 And I took some six foot tongs, which is like just big grabbers and just kind of forced it

01:00:16.780 into the, pushed it into the trap, shut the lid and done deal.

01:00:20.020 But that, I mean, you don't know if it's, it's, it's showing signs of either being distemper

01:00:26.740 or rabid.

01:00:27.960 Now, a rabid animal has to be euthanized or taken, taken control.

01:00:33.300 Like there, there's, you can't, there's no cure for rabies.

01:00:36.800 I youth, I have to, in my part of the state, I have to euthanize the skunks because there's

01:00:41.300 so many of them have been found with rabies that if I capture one, you know, one in the

01:00:46.080 wild is one thing, but if I, once I capture one, we have it, they want me to euthanize

01:00:51.340 it.

01:00:51.480 Right.

01:00:51.720 Because then it could really infect a person at that point.

01:00:53.760 Yeah.

01:00:54.080 I mean, it's, it's not afraid of people.

01:00:56.340 It's coming around your house.

01:00:57.880 You don't want to let that one go.

01:00:59.260 So you don't want to relocate it because it could have rabies, it could have another disease

01:01:03.520 and then you would transmit that to the rest of the population in that area.

01:01:07.280 Yeah.

01:01:07.700 So, I mean, it's.

01:01:08.740 Oh yeah.

01:01:09.160 If it's out there stomping its feet in a parking lot at noon, I mean, it'll be washing your 0.99

01:01:12.380 damn windows at fucking 4 PM on main street. 1.00

01:01:14.820 Not a kernel animal, a raccoon. 1.00

01:01:16.640 You see a raccoon out in the middle of the day, something's wrong.

01:01:19.140 That's a big sign.

01:01:20.440 Now, so once you get that animal, now to euthanize, you guys have, you take it to a

01:01:26.040 certain place.

01:01:26.580 Is there like kind of like a bag and gas kind of vibe or is it.

01:01:29.460 I mean, we have, the state lets us do different types of euthanasia.

01:01:33.360 Understood.

01:01:33.900 Gas chambers are most popular, which is the CO and, you know, it just pain, you know, puts

01:01:40.700 them to sleep.

01:01:41.300 Oh yeah.

01:01:41.600 We used to have a carbon monoxide leak over at my buddy Jeff's house, dude.

01:01:45.880 And so his, nobody knew, right?

01:01:47.920 This was in 94 or five, baby, you know?

01:01:52.320 And, uh, and we just started smoking weed.

01:01:55.700 We didn't even know about doing huffing gas, you know?

01:01:57.840 And next thing you know, man, we go over there, we fall asleep on Friday, wake up on

01:02:00.940 Sunday, baby boy.

01:02:02.500 You know what I'm saying, bro? 0.87

01:02:03.520 I mean, dude, I woke up, I felt damn nine months old, dude.

01:02:07.400 I felt so good, man.

01:02:09.440 But cause he had a gas leak in there, you know?

01:02:11.420 So every now and then a little bit isn't, it's not horrible, but it's, uh, a lot will

01:02:16.180 kill you. 0.99

01:02:16.800 Yeah. 1.00

01:02:16.980 A lot will kill you. 0.98

01:02:17.700 Now if you have, so that's, so that's a raccoon being rabbit.

01:02:21.380 Well, how do you know some of these other animals are rabbit?

01:02:23.500 Well, I mean, a raccoon will act the same way.

01:02:25.640 Um, what, what, they'll act, they'll, no, you said, we already said raccoon.

01:02:29.000 We're talking about skunk.

01:02:30.140 Oh, that was a skunk.

01:02:31.520 Yeah.

01:02:31.780 The skunks are when I captured the parking lot.

01:02:33.540 Oh, that was that, that, uh, that it's showing signs of being sick, either distemper or rabies.

01:02:39.000 You know, you, I treat, I kind of treat them all like they got something just like, uh,

01:02:44.500 in, uh, in a fire, in my fire department setting, like on a wreck, I treat, you treat everybody

01:02:51.040 like they got something that way you're always covered and you always wear PPE, you always

01:02:54.840 wear your gloves.

01:02:55.940 You don't say, well, he don't have it, don't need them.

01:02:57.960 You treat everything like it's got it.

01:03:00.320 So whenever I handle the animals, I always got my gloves on.

01:03:03.580 You treat all of them like they would have rabies just, you don't, so you don't take the chance.

01:03:07.080 Um, now when you, uh, when you're going on these house calls and stuff, well, how about this?

01:03:18.620 What's the, uh, love life like?

01:03:20.720 Is it hard to meet a woman when you're in the animal world? 1.00

01:03:22.840 Do you ever meet a woman on a call that you ended up taking on a date sometime?

01:03:26.280 I could imagine.

01:03:27.140 I'm married so I can't take too many on dates.

01:03:28.500 Oh, you're married now, huh?

01:03:29.640 Oh yeah.

01:03:30.120 I've been married for 23 years.

01:03:31.340 Did you meet your wife through animals?

01:03:32.700 No, no, no, no.

01:03:34.900 I met, I met her, oddly enough, cruising the parking lot back in the good old days, back

01:03:39.080 in the nineties.

01:03:39.860 Oh yeah.

01:03:40.380 We all used to cruise.

01:03:41.440 That's where I was.

01:03:41.740 We all cruise Sonic, what'd they have?

01:03:43.500 K-Marts.

01:03:44.280 Oh, dang, really?

01:03:45.320 K-Marts, yeah.

01:03:45.900 Dude, we used to meet up at a Michael, they had like Michael's craft store and we'd always

01:03:50.040 meet up over by Michael's out in front of Michael's on like a Friday or Saturday.

01:03:53.940 She don't like telling that stuff. 0.86

01:03:55.280 I mean, we met cruising in a parking lot and it went from, told her, I told her that night

01:03:59.480 I was going to marry her and she just laughed at me and here we are, been married 23 years

01:04:04.260 and we were together for about two years before that.

01:04:06.640 So she, she likes it.

01:04:08.320 It, she's not, some of my animals aren't her favorite.

01:04:10.860 I mean, she doesn't like go on call. 0.95

01:04:13.140 She'll go maybe with me to check a chat.

01:04:15.740 She won't get out of the truck. 0.65

01:04:17.880 She, I'll tell you a quick little story.

01:04:19.820 She, I had a bunch of, when we were allowed to relocate still, I, we got a 500 acre farm. 1.00

01:04:26.400 Okay.

01:04:26.800 And I would let.

01:04:27.720 Now when you say you're allowed to relocate, just to clarify, so I know what we're saying.

01:04:31.180 Does that mean you're allowed to take animals and keep them?

01:04:33.000 Yeah, like if I had some raccoons, I could relocate them on an approved area.

01:04:36.200 They had to be a hundred plus acres and had to be landowner permission and I could release

01:04:41.120 them.

01:04:41.380 And so that was something that was allowed by the state, by your, for your job in your area.

01:04:45.480 It's no longer allowed.

01:04:46.440 No, not on no certain animals or rabies vector animals.

01:04:49.020 Okay.

01:04:49.680 So, I mean, if I catch a groundhog, I can release it.

01:04:52.040 Right.

01:04:52.220 If I catch a squirrel, I can release it.

01:04:53.600 But some animals you cannot. 0.98

01:04:55.020 Raccoons, scum, I can't release them. 0.99

01:04:56.420 Not anymore. 0.99

01:04:57.300 So anyway, so I had about six or seven raccoons and I was letting, I had my wife with me. 0.92

01:05:03.840 I said, well, you video this and make a good video.

01:05:05.940 So I said, you video it and I'm going to let him go.

01:05:08.180 And so she's all, here he is sitting there and I get the trap out and I set it down and

01:05:12.120 it runs off and she's video and oh, it runs off in the woods.

01:05:15.400 And I do two or three like that.

01:05:17.060 And then I get one up and I said, this was for you, baby.

01:05:19.500 I turn around, let it go.

01:05:20.680 And it went right after, went right next to her feet.

01:05:23.840 Scared her to death, screamed.

01:05:25.540 That was the last time she went with me when we let animals go.

01:05:28.860 That'll do it, man.

01:05:29.480 She was a little bit upset over that. 0.71

01:05:31.140 She was just scared.

01:05:32.100 Now my daughter would be right there. 0.89

01:05:33.320 I'll bring in kit raccoons and my daughter, you know, she'll play with them and hold them 0.99

01:05:37.240 and she's all into animals.

01:05:39.160 But if, I liked letting them go.

01:05:42.960 I mean, that was the better alternative.

01:05:44.420 Yeah.

01:05:45.140 I had to do what they, I had to do what the state requires me to do.

01:05:48.280 Right.

01:05:48.520 So some of it's not always good, but.

01:05:51.200 What's an animal in?

01:05:52.200 Look, you can also, you don't have to.

01:05:53.940 Have you ever seen somebody that had an animal they're not supposed to have and you let it

01:05:57.620 slide?

01:05:58.060 That's their business.

01:05:58.840 That's their deal.

01:05:59.560 Yeah.

01:05:59.800 I don't enforce, I don't care what, I mean, I've been to people's houses and they've had

01:06:04.860 pet deer and pet raccoons.

01:06:06.440 I mean, it's.

01:06:06.980 What about something bigger than that?

01:06:08.100 I mean.

01:06:09.020 Something bigger than that I'm talking about.

01:06:10.240 Have you ever seen anything?

01:06:11.060 Somebody gots a dam and you could just blink at me if you have.

01:06:15.180 I mean, animals or other stuff.

01:06:16.740 Animals or other stuff.

01:06:18.540 Well, I've seen a lot of other stuff.

01:06:19.700 Oh yeah, I have too.

01:06:20.520 I mean, I've seen full-fledged meth labs.

01:06:22.640 Oh, hell yeah.

01:06:23.600 You know, I mean, I go into.

01:06:25.540 Have you ever rescued a rat or something out of the attic of a meth lab?

01:06:28.800 Actually, I did in a town, I won't name the town.

01:06:32.580 I was doing a bat inspection on an apartment complex. 1.00

01:06:36.300 It was a low-income housing department.

01:06:39.300 It's just a government-run housing complex.

01:06:41.900 Look, if I'm on meth, dude, I promise you, I'll definitely think there's bats around, baby.

01:06:46.140 Let's go.

01:06:46.740 So, I go into this place and I'm looking.

01:06:49.320 He says, well, they had a bat call. 0.93

01:06:52.040 And so, I'm certain they had like 18 buildings, two-story buildings.

01:06:54.660 So, I'm going through the attics of all.

01:06:56.400 It took all day long to inspect all the attics.

01:06:59.220 So, I go to this one house and I was like, nobody's here in this apartment.

01:07:02.920 He said, oh yeah, we hadn't got this cleared to rent back out yet.

01:07:06.060 And I was like, okay.

01:07:07.380 And the guy, the maintenance guy's downstairs and I'm walking through the structure and I get up to the attic and I get my ladder, open the door up.

01:07:14.080 And I said, well, what's with the white paint and all these little cards hanging?

01:07:18.940 And he said, oh, that's where they, we had a meth lab up here and they came in and decontaminated it.

01:07:23.980 And they spray, I really don't know.

01:07:26.640 So, they paint, they seal everything up with type of paint that if something's in the wood from that meth lab, it seals it up to where it can't harm anybody anymore.

01:07:35.600 Oh, I see what you're saying.

01:07:36.500 And so, I go up and do this attic and it's all like this, just bright white in here.

01:07:40.280 And it's got all these little, these little cards hanging that's supposed to detect any type of chemicals if something's still lingering.

01:07:46.760 Interesting.

01:07:47.140 So, and I was like, okay.

01:07:48.380 Like a litmus paper almost of sorts.

01:07:50.020 Yeah, it's just like a, it had just an indicator if it detected something, it changed colors or had a little gate meter on it.

01:07:56.640 So, that was, a meth lab had been cleaned up and that was a different one.

01:08:00.440 But I've found full-fledged ones before.

01:08:02.700 I mean, I go into million-dollar homes and I go into places that ought to be burnt to the ground.

01:08:07.500 But I mean, it's everybody's house.

01:08:09.480 And if people's doing meth, that's their business.

01:08:11.180 You don't deal with that.

01:08:11.620 Yeah, I'm not, I'm there for that.

01:08:12.820 You know, people, oh, I'm sorry, man, out here.

01:08:15.360 I'm like, no, I don't, I mean, I've seen, you name it, I've seen it.

01:08:18.380 Really?

01:08:18.640 And I just, you know, when I go into the house and I'm looking for a bat.

01:08:23.160 Yeah.

01:08:23.340 You know, I'm not in your kitchen, I'm going underneath your bed.

01:08:26.800 Right.

01:08:27.220 I'm going in your closets.

01:08:28.520 I'm looking into places that usually people don't look in your house.

01:08:31.840 So, you've probably seen some wild stuff, huh?

01:08:33.340 I had to ignore a lot of stuff, yeah.

01:08:34.440 A lot of drug paraphernalia?

01:08:35.900 Yeah, a little bit of everything.

01:08:37.380 Yeah.

01:08:37.780 I mean, you see everything.

01:08:40.240 Some stuff, you know, they're like, oh, they'll get, they'll be like, oh my God, here, I'm sorry.

01:08:43.600 I didn't know you was going to look here.

01:08:44.540 And I'm like, dude, I don't, I don't care.

01:08:46.140 You ever seen anybody hiding in that person's house or something like that?

01:08:48.620 No, but I see where they've hid stuff, you know, stuff that they don't want people to know.

01:08:52.500 I go up in the attics and I find, you know, you'll find stocks, old nudie books up in the attics years ago.

01:08:58.620 Oh, yeah, man. 0.76

01:08:58.760 Old beer cans, sex toys. 0.99

01:09:03.380 Oh, yeah, sure.

01:09:04.560 Hidden up in that, I mean, everything over, I mean, you do it long enough, you find, I mean, I'm underneath the houses, I'm in the attics, I'm crawling through the closets looking for stuff.

01:09:14.600 You're going to run into stuff.

01:09:15.900 You're in the nooks and crannies, baby, at that point.

01:09:17.840 And some of it's kind of nasty, you know, when you're in there.

01:09:21.520 I mean, if I'm at a place doing a rat job, you know, clean, good houses, clean places can get rats.

01:09:29.740 I mean, they're there for the food source, but if you have a dirtier environment, it's going to attract more bugs, rats, mice, and it just gets nastier.

01:09:39.880 Have you been in some places that it gets pretty bad?

01:09:42.180 Take me on a tail.

01:09:43.700 Oh, I did a single wide trailer several years ago, way out in the country, rural setting, and the complaint was rats.

01:09:53.640 And I said, okay, and I got my stuff, so I'll come out and do an inspection.

01:09:57.580 And so I come out, and they got chickens, chicken coop, right in the backyard, chickens running around right next to the trailer, piles of cracked corn feeding their chickens.

01:10:07.480 They got multiple dogs outside, great big bowls full of dog food.

01:10:11.600 This could be my sister, honestly.

01:10:13.100 So I know where the rats are going to be there.

01:10:14.980 Oh, you know already where they're going to be there?

01:10:16.300 Well, I know they're there because of food source.

01:10:18.100 Okay, right.

01:10:18.500 So all that cracked corn.

01:10:19.620 Dog food, crack, they got to have a food source.

01:10:21.560 Got it.

01:10:21.800 And so I go inside, and as soon as I opened the door up, I sent a rat run through. 0.99

01:10:26.400 Damn. 0.99

01:10:27.160 And so here's this man and woman in the house that had two children, an older child and a younger child. 0.99

01:10:34.200 And it wasn't the cleanest of conditions.

01:10:37.180 Right.

01:10:37.400 I mean, I can't judge.

01:10:38.660 Right.

01:10:38.940 I'm not there to judge how anybody is, you know, and I'm just there to do my job.

01:10:42.980 And so I talked to her and started investigating.

01:10:45.440 It was so bad in one room that I went in the room, and there was a – my generation, though,

01:10:52.780 you used to have to take the top off a soup lid.

01:10:55.460 So you had to take the – now they're just peeled up.

01:10:58.740 You pull the thing.

01:10:59.540 You used to have to cut that top off.

01:10:59.980 Yeah, you had to cut the top off.

01:11:01.680 When I said, why are there soup lids nailed all around the walls at the baseboard?

01:11:07.180 Oh, that's where the rats chew through. 0.94

01:11:09.000 And each time they chew a new hole, we nail a soup can lid over top of that hole. 1.00

01:11:13.700 Damn. 0.99

01:11:14.720 So I knew it was going to be a bad job. 0.99

01:11:16.740 I mean, it was such a bad infestation that I'd catch a rat, and it would get eaten before I got there.

01:11:24.700 Like, she'd get up in the morning and check all the traps and say, okay, we got some rats.

01:11:29.620 And so I'd schedule it to come over there.

01:11:31.580 When I would get there, I'd found just like the back legs left bones.

01:11:35.280 The rats are – they'll cannibalize each other. 0.98

01:11:37.120 Now, will they only cannibalize each other once they've been caught, so they don't like give any information away?

01:11:41.100 Well, the other one's not going to sit still long enough, unless it dies.

01:11:44.680 But I don't know what I'm saying is like, do the rats realize, okay, you know, Henry or whatever got caught. 0.96

01:11:52.620 We got to kill him, so he doesn't tell anybody else. 0.96

01:11:55.560 Or if he's already dead, or here, Henry, he's food, we're going to eat him now. 0.99

01:12:00.360 So I don't know.

01:12:01.100 I mean, like I said, Mother Nature's cruel, once again.

01:12:04.840 You know, it's cannibalize each other, the rats.

01:12:07.900 But, I mean, it's – and they're there for the food source and left uncontrolled.

01:12:12.320 They'll get in your walls and ceilings. 0.92

01:12:14.620 And, you know, I think we end up catching 30, 40 rats out of there and got rid of all of them.

01:12:19.420 Now, have you ever had anybody – I'll tell you this.

01:12:21.460 I was at – this is in New York City.

01:12:22.740 I'm in New York City. 0.99

01:12:24.480 And I met a man from Iowa who used to – his friend sold the penis – he sold raccoon penis necklaces. 0.99

01:12:36.460 This is what the man told me right in the street. 0.97

01:12:38.660 And I thought that first man was crazy, and then I got his phone number, you know, because it sounded interesting.

01:12:42.420 And I haven't even looked at my phone in years, but I bet it's in there.

01:12:45.760 Is that a – have you ever had anybody call you and say, hey, you know, Mr. Voorhees, will you help me collect some of that?

01:12:52.180 You know, I'm trying to do something, or I'm going into a business, you know, rabbit's feet or something.

01:12:56.660 Will you help me collect an item along the way?

01:12:59.700 I could have brought some for you. 0.99

01:13:00.760 I got a whole box of coon penises. 1.00

01:13:02.760 Do you really? 1.00

01:13:03.200 Yeah.

01:13:03.800 I save them every time.

01:13:04.900 When I don't – the fur value is so bad now.

01:13:08.660 The market's just nil. 0.99

01:13:10.120 And how much fur is on a raccoon penis? 0.93

01:13:12.060 Well, I mean, for the animal. 0.95

01:13:14.880 Like in the wintertime, like for fur trapping, I catch a raccoon, and I'll skin it out and keep the fur.

01:13:22.520 And sell it at an auction, fur auction.

01:13:24.940 Oh, okay.

01:13:25.380 This getting outside the wildlife, this is a trap, back to the just trapping part.

01:13:30.660 And you would – you skin it out, dry it out, and sell it at auction.

01:13:34.740 Where they used to – back in the 70s, you might have got $30, $40 for a raccoon pelt.

01:13:40.500 Now you get –

01:13:41.140 Oh, just the pelt.

01:13:41.840 Yeah, just the pelt.

01:13:42.520 Now you might – last year's auction I went to, they were $0.50 up to $5. 0.98

01:13:47.520 Damn. 0.94

01:13:48.080 Yeah, so that's not worth my – I don't spend the time to do it. 0.99

01:13:52.200 Right.

01:13:52.340 I don't go out and specifically trap for them.

01:13:56.160 But when I did do it, and when I do, if I catch one, I'll take it back, skin it out.

01:14:01.480 And if it's a boar, I'll keep the pick.

01:14:04.220 I mean, they're worth – I mean, you can – there's guys that buy them.

01:14:07.280 They make toothpicks out of them.

01:14:08.600 Really?

01:14:09.000 Yep.

01:14:09.400 They make toothpicks out of them.

01:14:10.500 Can you pull up a picture of that, Sean? 0.99

01:14:12.620 Raccoon penis toothpick. 1.00

01:14:14.480 And so is it – how much bone is on that penis, brother? 1.00

01:14:17.300 Be honest with you. 1.00

01:14:17.880 About like a pencil.

01:14:19.040 I mean, you'll –

01:14:19.580 Wow.

01:14:20.140 So it's – I could have brought one.

01:14:21.840 You should have – I wish we talked about that.

01:14:23.440 I'd have brought you one. 0.99

01:14:24.500 So that's raccoon penis right there. 1.00

01:14:26.240 Damn, that's hardy. 1.00

01:14:28.620 Yep. 1.00

01:14:29.280 Coon dick toothpick. 1.00

01:14:30.300 Damn. 1.00

01:14:31.180 That baculum, brother. 1.00

01:14:32.900 That's – I mean, they're – you can sell about every part of the animal.

01:14:37.060 And the skull's worth – you know, the guys that do it, the skull's worth something.

01:14:41.040 I mean, the glands are worth something.

01:14:46.060 You know, actually some places – I thought – thinking Louisiana, I thought they sell

01:14:49.720 raccoon meat.

01:14:51.160 A lot of people eat raccoon.

01:14:52.840 I haven't had it.

01:14:53.840 I've had it.

01:14:54.220 I've never tried.

01:14:54.760 I've eaten groundhog.

01:14:55.640 I've eaten bobcat backstraps.

01:14:58.300 But I've never tried a raccoon.

01:14:59.840 How's bobcat?

01:15:00.540 I've had pelican and I've had dove.

01:15:03.480 I mean, it just tastes like meat.

01:15:05.840 I mean, you could – I mean, I know guys in trapping groups I'm on Facebook.

01:15:09.180 But they've tried a coyote backstrap.

01:15:11.920 Wow.

01:15:12.420 But, I mean, a backstrap's a backstrap.

01:15:14.340 I mean, it's all meat once you get the hide off of it.

01:15:16.660 It's meat.

01:15:17.300 But to each their own.

01:15:18.760 We tried bobcat just for the hay.

01:15:20.700 We tried it.

01:15:21.960 But that's something I wouldn't eat normally.

01:15:23.780 We'd eat every day.

01:15:25.620 My grandparents – I used to hear my grandparents talk about eating groundhogs all the time.

01:15:29.740 Oh, I'll get that young groundhog. 0.93

01:15:31.000 Oh, I'll eat that.

01:15:31.600 And I've actually had groundhog years ago.

01:15:33.820 It's all right.

01:15:34.520 But I know I've eaten beaver, but the animal beaver.

01:15:40.720 I got you.

01:15:41.640 Yeah, yeah.

01:15:41.920 Before we go anywhere.

01:15:43.180 No, I feel you.

01:15:44.100 And it's a good dark red meat.

01:15:45.860 It's really good.

01:15:46.760 You make beaver stew.

01:15:47.760 Really?

01:15:48.240 Yeah, it's a really good meat.

01:15:49.580 Out of anything that you would trap outside – I mean, we do nooses trapping for beavers, too.

01:15:54.380 Okay.

01:15:54.800 But in fur trapping, I like beaver trapping.

01:15:59.260 It's a good meat.

01:16:00.120 It's a dark – it's a good red meat. 1.00

01:16:01.620 It's a really good meat.

01:16:02.460 I haven't had that, and I'm sure I could probably get into it in this area, because I spent about half the year out here now, it looks like.

01:16:10.420 I'm sure I'll be able to get into just more option for that meat.

01:16:14.360 The further west you get, they don't want you having any meat.

01:16:18.260 I mean, you can't go to the grocery store and buy it, but you can buy it out at, I'm sure, select places or – no, it's – I mean, it's not USDA-inspected stuff.

01:16:26.600 No, no, dude.

01:16:27.400 I don't want it to be.

01:16:28.260 You know what I'm saying, man?

01:16:29.160 It's good.

01:16:29.660 I want that bootleg stuff.

01:16:31.340 I want the guy who's got a cooler on his passenger seat.

01:16:34.680 Bootleg beaver, mate.

01:16:36.580 There you go.

01:16:37.140 I've had some, brother.

01:16:38.100 That's for sure.

01:16:39.880 So tell me about this, though. 0.91

01:16:41.440 When you get the bone of the raccoon, the penis, do they – have anybody ever made like a thing of necklaces?

01:16:51.220 I'm sure they have. 0.69

01:16:52.180 Okay.

01:16:52.400 I mean, I haven't.

01:16:53.660 I mean, but I'm sure – I'm sure there are people out there who have. 1.00

01:16:57.420 It's amazing they have that much penis on them. 1.00

01:17:00.120 They make a lot of teeth, like coyote teeth. 0.99

01:17:02.000 They'll make necklaces out of them, bear teeth. 1.00

01:17:05.980 Yeah, I mean, there's a necklace out of one.

01:17:08.200 Yeah, it's beautiful.

01:17:09.340 God, it's beautiful.

01:17:10.740 I mean, once you polish it and clean it up, it's just bone.

01:17:13.180 Yeah.

01:17:13.600 Just knowing where it comes from or what it is.

01:17:15.720 I mean, if I laid that out there, you would never know what it was.

01:17:18.080 I mean, unless you've studied that or looked at it, you'd never know what that was.

01:17:22.300 Oh, hell no.

01:17:22.980 I'd have stirred – dude.

01:17:24.220 I mean, you can get on eBay and buy them.

01:17:25.840 Oh, I'd stir preserves with that thing, brother.

01:17:27.680 I wouldn't – yeah.

01:17:28.460 You can get right on there and you can buy – I mean, you can look on eBay and buy coon peggers. 1.00

01:17:32.880 What's the largest – what is the largest animal penis you've seen that's out there? 0.99

01:17:42.740 And I won't tell anybody. 0.98

01:17:45.080 Okay.

01:17:46.260 I mean, probably a coyote.

01:17:48.340 We don't skin them.

01:17:49.420 I mean, I don't take those out, but when you skin them, you've got to skin around it. 0.87

01:17:53.820 I mean, it's bigger than the raccoon.

01:17:56.500 The bone part is bigger than the raccoon. 0.99

01:17:58.400 So, some animals have bone in their penis, huh? 0.99

01:18:00.800 Yeah. 0.99

01:18:01.140 But we don't have it.

01:18:02.820 I mean, it's – the animals, the – I don't know what all animals, I'm not that.

01:18:07.560 And here you go right here.

01:18:08.620 Now, let's zoom in on that, brother.

01:18:10.380 Yeah, there's the coyote. 0.99

01:18:11.160 Let's go down this penis bone chart. 0.99

01:18:14.780 Just let's get a look at it here. 0.99

01:18:16.400 Let me see what we got here. 0.98

01:18:18.180 Damn, now, otter's got that heater on him, huh? 0.98

01:18:21.060 Otter's got that dang rudder. 1.00

01:18:23.280 Yeah.

01:18:24.120 Wow.

01:18:25.020 Badger got that interesting piece on him.

01:18:27.820 That red fox don't have much on him, dude.

01:18:30.060 R.I.P.

01:18:30.660 Or the weasel.

01:18:32.160 Yeah, that weasel ain't got nothing, boy.

01:18:35.080 I'll tell you, look, I'll be real honest about where I am on this chart.

01:18:38.000 I'm probably about a badger.

01:18:39.480 I'm in between badger and otter.

01:18:44.560 I'm not going to say it.

01:18:45.680 All right.

01:18:46.140 No comment.

01:18:46.680 Okay.

01:18:47.320 No worries, man.

01:18:48.240 No worries.

01:18:48.960 I'm just trying to be, you know, maybe I'm a little more badger.

01:18:52.660 Okay.

01:18:53.000 I'll be honest with you, bro.

01:18:54.420 I'm a little more badger, bro.

01:18:56.780 We got another question that came in from one of our listeners.

01:18:59.340 Man, we had so many questions that came in for you.

01:19:01.220 So, we won't get to all of them, but some of them we do have here.

01:19:05.940 Yo, TVW.

01:19:07.580 Hi.

01:19:08.080 How's everyone doing?

01:19:09.200 My name is PK, originally from East Africa.

01:19:11.180 I've got two questions for the wildlife control fellow.

01:19:16.140 The first one is, have you been on a call where somebody decided to keep a wild animal as a pet and then change their mind?

01:19:26.700 Something like a monkey or maybe something crazier?

01:19:28.840 And if so, what was that experience like?

01:19:33.340 My second question is, what are your thoughts on people keeping birds as pets?

01:19:43.360 You know, things like pirates.

01:19:45.900 Yeah.

01:19:46.140 What do you think about that?

01:19:46.880 My stepdad, his first wife, she was really, I don't know what was wrong with her, but she had countless birds and then he left her.

01:19:54.480 But what do you see a lot of that?

01:19:57.100 Who has birds?

01:19:58.080 Who has birds?

01:19:59.540 That's a good question.

01:20:00.520 Who has birds?

01:20:02.380 I have five birds.

01:20:04.200 Okay.

01:20:04.700 My daughter, we all have them.

01:20:06.240 We're family.

01:20:06.800 How big are these and how loud are they?

01:20:08.820 They can, we have two parrots.

01:20:11.080 They're, she'll kill me if I say this wrong, Indian ringnecks. 1.00

01:20:14.460 Okay. 0.94

01:20:15.100 Parrots.

01:20:15.640 We have two of those.

01:20:17.500 One of them's talking.

01:20:19.060 The other one's young, isn't talking yet.

01:20:21.320 Echo, he's quite talkative.

01:20:23.440 We all discussed bringing, talked about bringing a pet, bringing something with me and said the hotel probably wouldn't like that.

01:20:30.920 And I asked my daughter, she said, only if I can come.

01:20:34.060 She wasn't sending the bird.

01:20:35.960 Well, maybe next time we'll have her coming too, man.

01:20:38.120 Oh, that's a beautiful bird.

01:20:39.340 Yeah, we have a blue one and a green one.

01:20:42.420 Yeah.

01:20:42.940 Oh, they're beautiful.

01:20:44.320 And so now do you rescue these out of people's homes?

01:20:46.720 No, these were, these weren't rescues.

01:20:49.040 Okay.

01:20:49.720 Now we, she does have a, oh, she's got a couple of parakeets, different types of parakeets. 1.00

01:20:55.040 And we have a love bird, which came from an animal rescue.

01:20:58.100 It came from a, I don't know, it's a bird rescue.

01:21:01.060 And it had been, I think it had been abused.

01:21:04.360 It wasn't mishandled, wasn't handled properly.

01:21:07.120 And it's like seven years old.

01:21:09.500 And love is a battlefield, brother.

01:21:11.040 And she got, she got it.

01:21:13.380 I mean, there's all, there's animal rescues where parrots weren't taken care of.

01:21:17.300 You know, big mccall, you know, there's animals aren't, just like dogs and cats can get abused,

01:21:22.040 where animals aren't taken care of, mistreated, and they've given up.

01:21:25.220 Now, what about show animals?

01:21:26.700 Anybody, you know, sometime you see, like, I know they had a cat show for a while out there near Fresno.

01:21:31.920 They got busted and they shut down and had a disc band and get rid of a lot of the cats.

01:21:36.440 And a lot of the, you know, there's people you see, I know you mentioned earlier, they got squirrels.

01:21:40.220 I remember out at, I don't know if it was Dollywood or someplace in Arkansas,

01:21:44.640 they used to have that little, you know, the squirrel on the water skis,

01:21:47.880 a little deal they put out there at recess or whatever, lunch, you know.

01:21:51.580 And you could throw a little barbecue chips at them or whatever.

01:21:53.900 But have you had any animals that have, have you had any shows that have shut down in your area?

01:21:59.360 Any magicians and you had to go rescue the dove or anything like that or reach into a hat?

01:22:04.080 You know, like, anything you've had to do, like, were the performance animals?

01:22:07.780 Well, I did get a call about white rats.

01:22:11.400 And they were obviously domesticated rats that somebody had let go.

01:22:14.980 And there's quite a few of them in this kind of neighborhood, but they were coming to one house.

01:22:19.160 Okay. 0.97

01:22:19.780 And, I mean, I caught all them just like I do any other rats, but they were all white. 0.98

01:22:24.440 And what did that mean?

01:22:25.500 They were a domesticated rat that somebody couldn't care for and they just released it.

01:22:29.280 Okay.

01:22:30.060 But you don't know if they were in shows or anything?

01:22:31.760 Oh, no, no.

01:22:32.260 They weren't in a show.

01:22:33.140 No, I don't.

01:22:34.280 Not where they were at.

01:22:35.340 They weren't in a show.

01:22:36.080 I've never had to get anything that somebody had in a show or something that was released.

01:22:41.820 Now, I think in Ohio a couple years ago a guy let something – don't know what he was unhappy about,

01:22:48.880 but he had a lot of exotic cats and he let them all – everything go.

01:22:51.880 And I think they ended up having to euthanize most of them.

01:22:54.120 They were just – you know, you let a cougar go or a lion, you can't – you know, they're going to get somebody

01:23:01.780 that I think they euthanized most of them.

01:23:03.300 But that was somebody that just let pets go that they shouldn't have had to start with.

01:23:07.500 Okay.

01:23:08.400 So, tell me – take me into the big cat game.

01:23:10.740 I mean, what's that like when you get some of these big cat calls?

01:23:13.600 And what kind of cats do you deal with?

01:23:16.420 I mean, the only cats I deal with are bobcats.

01:23:18.500 Now, are they violent?

01:23:19.580 Oh, they're out of all the – and back goes into the trapping part of it.

01:23:24.420 The – I catch a coyote, they try to get away from you.

01:23:28.720 I mean, if they're caught, they're going to be as far – if there's a – if it's a –

01:23:33.760 if they have three foot of chain or cable attached to that trap or a snare,

01:23:38.320 they're going to be as far away as they can get from you. 0.98

01:23:41.020 Coward away from you. 0.99

01:23:42.500 A bobcat comes after you. 1.00

01:23:44.100 A bobcat, they'll flat come after you. 0.72

01:23:45.920 Here's a question right here that came in about one.

01:23:47.900 Video of them, actually.

01:23:49.000 Oh, there's a video of you right here dealing with one.

01:23:51.100 Okay.

01:23:55.140 Wow.

01:24:00.740 And is it chained down to the ground right now?

01:24:02.480 It's caught in a foot trap.

01:24:03.520 Okay.

01:24:03.700 And I like the red fox.

01:24:06.940 I don't like the –

01:24:08.380 So, this is a red fox.

01:24:09.240 This isn't a bobcat.

01:24:10.040 Yeah, that's a red fox.

01:24:11.320 I like the red fox.

01:24:12.580 They are on the euthanasia list in the nuisance part.

01:24:16.760 Now, this is fur trapping.

01:24:19.140 I'm trapping under my trapper's license.

01:24:22.320 And I'll release all them when possible because they just don't see as many of them.

01:24:26.700 And I just use a choke pole.

01:24:28.860 And so, I let him loose and bam, he's off to live another day.

01:24:34.440 There was a girl – I ran into a girl a couple of months ago in Los Angeles, and she had a fox fur coat.

01:24:39.300 And she was kind of wearing it late at us. 0.51

01:24:40.860 She didn't want to tell everybody.

01:24:42.000 She told everybody it was fake.

01:24:42.960 But then I felt like it wasn't fake.

01:24:45.040 You know, I touched it, and I felt like – I said, I don't know.

01:24:48.260 I felt some fake stuff before, and it felt like real stuff.

01:24:50.800 Oh, they're very nice.

01:24:52.160 So, she admitted to me secretly she'd been doing drugs, but she told me secretly that it was real.

01:24:58.160 So –

01:24:58.520 I mean, there's a lot – the fur industry is really gone.

01:25:00.660 You'll see more actors, singers, sporting fur, sporting bobcat.

01:25:06.820 That's the biggest thing.

01:25:07.780 I have several bobcats that I've held on to that I want to have made into a vest or a coat.

01:25:14.000 And I have some black coyotes that I've trapped over the years.

01:25:18.800 Wow.

01:25:19.100 And I want to have kind of like a black coyote, backing, and bobcat front.

01:25:24.660 I'd buy something like that from you if you ever made one.

01:25:26.000 I mean, it's – I mean, you can – I mean, the fur coat, like the bobcats I sell,

01:25:30.180 all the fur goes to – for the fur industry, most of it ships to like China and Russia

01:25:35.480 for, you know, liners for fur coats or jackets.

01:25:39.380 But like the bobcats, there's a guy that used to buy mine in Lexington, Kentucky,

01:25:43.480 that makes custom furs, coats and stuff, and he buys the bobcats for that.

01:25:48.920 Yeah.

01:25:49.240 I don't know if it's secretly still a pretty big business or not, you know?

01:25:53.520 I mean, it's – I mean, a lot of people are down on it.

01:25:57.260 I mean –

01:25:57.780 But a lot of people like it, too.

01:25:58.900 And a lot of people are down on what we do.

01:26:00.780 You know, people don't like the trapping.

01:26:02.580 Yeah, I mean, it injures them sometimes.

01:26:04.820 You know, it catches them by the foot.

01:26:06.680 You know, it does hurt.

01:26:08.840 You know, it does do more – the more they fight, the more they might hurt themselves.

01:26:13.100 But I've actually got in places to trap before – farms to trap in the winter

01:26:17.540 by taking a trap and sticking my hand in it.

01:26:20.360 And just usually like a number two when it's not real hard, powerful.

01:26:24.080 It don't break the bones, break the – it don't feel good.

01:26:27.200 But that lets somebody know, okay, well, if a dog does get caught in,

01:26:30.260 it's not going to break its foot off.

01:26:31.560 Right.

01:26:32.320 And if I'm willing to stick my hand in it, they're willing to let me track

01:26:35.720 because they don't fear, well, if the cat gets it, it's not going to kill the cat.

01:26:38.640 Right.

01:26:38.940 It just won't like it very well, but it'll be able to be released unharmed.

01:26:41.920 I mean, it's kind of strange that, you know, I do that, but some people do that.

01:26:45.880 You do – trapping is getting harder and harder to find places to trap.

01:26:49.820 Well, it's weird that we're part of nature, but we sometimes act like we're this –

01:26:55.920 but we're this more conscious part of nature, I guess.

01:27:00.240 Because it's not like you probably have some raccoons that won't come in

01:27:05.200 and kill the babies to get the mother to go back in. 1.00

01:27:08.420 You know what I'm saying? 0.99

01:27:08.840 It's not like you don't have these other dirty parts of nature that run its course.

01:27:14.040 You know, I have a friend who does some big game hunting,

01:27:16.880 and he talks about how a lot of times the conservation,

01:27:20.960 the place you go to hunt whatever it is,

01:27:23.800 you have to pay like half a million dollars to do it.

01:27:26.760 And the money you pay, it's usually a sick animal that you're killing

01:27:31.320 or an old animal that's not procreating or anything anymore.

01:27:34.060 Or culled one out of the group.

01:27:35.160 Yes.

01:27:36.160 And so the money you're going to pay is going to take care of 500 other animals.

01:27:41.780 You know, like it's just interesting sometimes like how one news article,

01:27:47.920 you know, sometimes just won't give you all the facts,

01:27:50.560 so at least you can make, have a little bit more information.

01:27:54.360 And a lot, they'll feed, like they'll take that animal too,

01:27:56.340 and they'll feed the whole village.

01:27:57.400 Right.

01:27:57.900 Oh, totally.

01:27:58.580 Yeah, yeah.

01:27:58.980 Yeah, they won't even, they might take a,

01:28:00.900 they might get some part of the animal taxidermied

01:28:03.140 or get a photo or something like that for their relic.

01:28:06.780 But they're going to, yeah, but that,

01:28:08.720 that the food from that could feed the entire village.

01:28:11.020 And also, but the money for the conservation group is going to,

01:28:15.520 it's going to bring, it's going to help so many more animals live.

01:28:19.340 It's almost unbelievable, you know.

01:28:21.220 I mean, the hunters have been, that money goes for the preservation,

01:28:24.900 the, to keep the poachers away.

01:28:26.740 Totally.

01:28:27.200 You know, the fence or whatever.

01:28:29.360 And you need it.

01:28:30.060 Look, I'll tell you this.

01:28:30.740 I was in South Africa.

01:28:31.780 This is probably maybe eight years ago,

01:28:34.180 seven years ago doing comedy shows over there.

01:28:36.980 And we met a man one day and he was rich.

01:28:40.540 This man was a rich man.

01:28:41.940 He, him and his wife had run a diamond mine or mine. 0.99

01:28:47.820 And they, or hell, maybe it was a damn diamond mine. 0.99

01:28:52.160 Maybe it was damn Indiana Jones. 0.99

01:28:54.120 But they had run something where they had made a ton of money, 0.99

01:28:58.140 but they owned a nature preserve, their own.

01:29:00.760 I mean, and this dude took us in a helicopter over there

01:29:02.620 and I actually ended up hooking up with his girlfriend one time.

01:29:04.420 I still feel pretty bad about that.

01:29:06.900 But, but anyway, this man took us over to their nature preserve

01:29:10.120 and, and he took us around to, I mean, the biggest animals. 0.99

01:29:14.160 He might've had damn dinosaurs. 0.83

01:29:15.380 I don't remember what he had, but I mean, he had tris, uh, rhinoceros, 0.99

01:29:20.300 everything, you know, giraffes.

01:29:22.280 I mean, just, we pulled right up next to him 1.00

01:29:23.760 and they were his, in his damn yard. 0.99

01:29:25.300 I mean, his yard, I'll admit was probably 50,000 acres or something, 1.00

01:29:28.420 but it was a yard.

01:29:30.160 Fast forward two weeks.

01:29:31.820 He sends me a picture.

01:29:32.840 The two rhinoceros we'd seen, somebody broken in

01:29:37.120 and sawed their horns off with a, uh, chainsaw

01:29:39.760 and just left the bodies right there to rot.

01:29:42.220 And he said, poachers had gotten in and gotten them.

01:29:44.420 And it was just...

01:29:45.160 So they're trying to protect them

01:29:46.020 and get the people there, poach them, 0.81

01:29:47.860 just to sell that little bit of ivory off of them.

01:29:50.740 Right.

01:29:51.200 So it's just interesting.

01:29:52.340 It's like one thing's going to happen.

01:29:53.920 It's just nature.

01:29:55.260 It's like this part of nature is going to happen.

01:29:57.780 Sometimes you have to do another part of it.

01:30:00.720 You have to just...

01:30:01.520 It's about managing nature.

01:30:03.000 Yeah.

01:30:03.360 See, that's what my...

01:30:04.880 I mean, it's got to get away from the new...

01:30:06.920 The wildlife part, like my trapping.

01:30:08.820 My daughter doesn't... 1.00

01:30:10.000 She doesn't like me getting all the animals.

01:30:11.800 No, but she loves animals.

01:30:13.620 Right.

01:30:14.020 But we keep them in check.

01:30:16.580 You know, this year I trapped 66 coyotes.

01:30:20.260 Wow.

01:30:21.160 And over the course of the four-month trapping season.

01:30:23.220 You know, think how many coyotes I took out of the population.

01:30:27.240 All those females, which over half of them were females, 1.00

01:30:30.720 and you're going to have all those young...

01:30:32.680 You know, all the baby deer that I saved,

01:30:34.880 all the young turkeys that I saved,

01:30:36.780 all the...

01:30:37.620 I do a lot of work for sheep farms,

01:30:40.120 and all the baby sheep.

01:30:41.280 Oh, sheep will get attacked. 1.00

01:30:42.480 Sheep is just a damn fucking throw pillow full of dinner, dog. 1.00

01:30:45.580 They'll get them bitches immediately. 1.00

01:30:47.340 So I just... 1.00

01:30:48.100 Immediately.

01:30:48.460 We got to keep it in check.

01:30:49.720 You know, everything's got to be kept in check,

01:30:51.400 or if not, it'll...

01:30:53.240 Like the deer.

01:30:54.360 I mean, that's why they have deer seasons,

01:30:56.720 and they keep upping the quota.

01:30:57.980 If they didn't have a deer...

01:30:59.140 If you weren't allowed to kill a deer,

01:31:01.000 I mean, your insurance...

01:31:02.180 That's what makes your insurance cost so much now

01:31:04.040 is all the wrecks.

01:31:05.040 Right.

01:31:05.220 I mean, where I live at,

01:31:06.200 deer collisions are horrible.

01:31:08.480 I mean, I've got friends that have hit 10 different deer

01:31:10.980 in their life total cars.

01:31:12.200 I mean, it's...

01:31:13.220 They're there,

01:31:13.660 and if we didn't have these seasons to keep them in check,

01:31:16.380 there'd be just that much more of them on the roads,

01:31:18.360 crossing the roads.

01:31:19.740 It was like all the other animals.

01:31:21.180 If there wasn't...

01:31:21.760 But it's all in a balance.

01:31:25.140 Right.

01:31:25.240 Like the groundhogs are starting to make a comeback.

01:31:27.940 And why are they doing it?

01:31:29.060 What's going on?

01:31:29.840 Their main predator was the coyote.

01:31:32.360 Oh, so by killing off the coyotes...

01:31:33.920 So if you take too many...

01:31:35.220 It messes up the cycle.

01:31:36.760 You take too many coyotes out,

01:31:39.120 and then the groundhogs are going to get overpopulated. 1.00

01:31:42.200 Damn. 0.99

01:31:42.780 So, I mean, everything's got a spot. 0.99

01:31:44.900 Everything's got a little spot in that food chain.

01:31:47.640 But, I mean, they have to be kept in check.

01:31:49.320 I mean, people...

01:31:49.840 You know, it's part of...

01:31:51.600 Mother Nature does it herself with disease and stuff. 1.00

01:31:54.480 You know, we're just giving her a little helping hand.

01:31:57.400 No, look, I think it makes perfect sense.

01:31:59.100 Like you're saying, if you don't take those coyotes out,

01:32:02.640 then how many more turkeys do they get into?

01:32:04.980 How many more baby deer do they kill? 1.00

01:32:07.100 How many more chicken houses?

01:32:10.520 Just different things.

01:32:11.420 How many more different circles will they mess up?

01:32:14.220 I mean, bobcats.

01:32:15.240 A bobcat take down a full-grown deer. 1.00

01:32:17.480 Damn! 1.00

01:32:17.880 I mean, they... 1.00

01:32:19.380 A bobcat goes for the neck. 0.98

01:32:21.140 Well, attack...

01:32:21.940 No, a cat goes for the neck. 1.00

01:32:23.920 Canines usually go for the rear.

01:32:25.460 They bite...

01:32:25.940 No, they attack from the rear.

01:32:28.260 But, you know, a bobcat, they'll take down...

01:32:30.300 And pets, both of them will take down.

01:32:32.320 Coyotes are big pet killers. 0.99

01:32:34.400 Because cats...

01:32:35.780 We got cats that are around dogs.

01:32:37.940 I have a little healer.

01:32:38.720 The cat's not scared of the dog.

01:32:40.260 So, a coyote could walk right up to a cat

01:32:42.200 and just take it with it.

01:32:44.180 Because the cat's not scared of it.

01:32:46.260 Oh, because they're the same species?

01:32:47.680 Well, I mean, where they're used to...

01:32:49.540 My cat's used to dogs.

01:32:50.720 You know, most cats are used to...

01:32:52.120 Cats that are outside are used to...

01:32:53.540 I'm not talking about bobcats.

01:32:55.020 Now, I'm like a domesticated house cat.

01:32:56.780 Okay.

01:32:57.120 Or used to dogs.

01:32:59.660 And so, if a coyote walks through your yard

01:33:01.960 and the cat's there, the cat's like,

01:33:03.140 Hey, what's up?

01:33:03.800 Oh, it's just a dog.

01:33:04.880 Yeah, and thinks it's just a dog.

01:33:06.440 And bam, you know, coyotes are starting to come

01:33:07.900 into our neighborhoods and eating the pets

01:33:09.640 because they're easy meals.

01:33:10.840 Wow.

01:33:11.340 And they'll eat small dogs. 0.97

01:33:13.900 Bobcats don't know if they're real...

01:33:15.440 They'll eat another cat if it's out.

01:33:18.060 And, you know, if they can get to it,

01:33:19.460 they'll eat...

01:33:20.100 They're a hunter.

01:33:20.700 They'll eat whatever they can come across.

01:33:22.640 My God. 0.94

01:33:24.900 But they kill...

01:33:26.560 I mean, I've seen videos on cameras

01:33:29.200 where coyotes were attacking deer.

01:33:31.680 Bobcats were attacking deer.

01:33:33.220 Do you feel sometimes like we're kind of ruining the world

01:33:36.240 and that it's like kind of a bummer that we're in it?

01:33:38.480 Not in a bad way, like...

01:33:40.020 But just do you ever, like, have that moment

01:33:41.580 where you're like,

01:33:42.200 Man, nature would be so much better.

01:33:44.020 It's their world.

01:33:45.160 We're asking them to live in their area.

01:33:49.240 That's your...

01:33:49.800 After...

01:33:50.400 I mean...

01:33:50.940 No, look, I think you have a good...

01:33:52.900 You got a unique position

01:33:54.240 because you're that, you know,

01:33:55.200 you're kind of that middle man.

01:33:56.760 You're that middle man where it's like, 0.80

01:33:58.100 Hey, man, whenever, you know,

01:33:59.580 somebody starts, you know,

01:34:01.220 stepping on when it's, you know,

01:34:02.640 Red Rover, Red Rover,

01:34:04.100 a coyote came over,

01:34:05.360 you know what I'm saying?

01:34:05.700 You're the guy they call.

01:34:07.200 Yeah. 0.98

01:34:07.380 You know, like you're that freaking... 0.95

01:34:09.160 You're the referee kind of. 0.94

01:34:10.800 Yeah.

01:34:11.100 So I think getting your perception

01:34:12.820 is interesting that,

01:34:14.840 yeah, we're kind of...

01:34:16.900 So you would say it feels like

01:34:18.640 we're on their turf in the world.

01:34:20.100 Yeah.

01:34:20.380 I mean, it's...

01:34:21.100 We're bats.

01:34:23.080 We'll go into bats.

01:34:24.780 You know, they mainly...

01:34:25.680 They'll live in trees.

01:34:26.480 I mean, bats are everywhere

01:34:27.600 and they'll live in trees.

01:34:28.440 Are they really?

01:34:29.480 And the more trees and structures

01:34:31.480 that we remove to build houses

01:34:33.380 and whatnot,

01:34:34.500 they're going to come live in your house. 0.90

01:34:35.900 Right.

01:34:36.120 Once again,

01:34:37.140 it's just a big tree to them.

01:34:38.900 Mm-hmm.

01:34:39.140 Here's a question we got that came...

01:34:40.260 Oh, there's some video right here.

01:34:41.200 Are you dealing with one of them?

01:34:41.980 Yeah.

01:34:42.360 Oh, it's a photo.

01:34:43.720 Yeah, that's one I removed from a house.

01:34:45.920 Wow.

01:34:46.720 I mean, they have canines.

01:34:47.960 If you see their teeth,

01:34:48.880 I mean, they have canines just like a dog.

01:34:52.060 I mean, they got the big canine teeth.

01:34:53.360 Oh, yeah.

01:34:54.060 I mean, they can inflict a pretty good bite on you.

01:34:56.280 Man.

01:34:57.220 So, I mean, don't ever...

01:34:58.100 You see a bat,

01:34:59.180 don't.

01:34:59.780 Just call the professionals

01:35:01.180 and let them.

01:35:02.660 I've got on protective gloves.

01:35:04.760 You get bit by him

01:35:05.880 and he flies off,

01:35:07.180 you're getting rabies shots

01:35:08.320 and you don't want to have to go do that.

01:35:10.500 That's pretty nasty shots.

01:35:12.520 Have you seen someone die of rabies?

01:35:14.280 No, I haven't.

01:35:15.220 I know several people personally

01:35:17.000 have had rabies.

01:35:18.140 I've done a couple jobs

01:35:19.580 where the people had such a bad bat problem, 0.98

01:35:23.100 they've already had to...

01:35:23.720 They've gotten bit

01:35:24.420 and already had to get rabies shots

01:35:25.640 and still haven't got rid of the bats. 1.00

01:35:29.180 Damn. 0.99

01:35:29.580 So, just... 0.99

01:35:31.400 Some people just,

01:35:32.300 I don't know,

01:35:32.920 just don't understand,

01:35:35.160 aren't educated,

01:35:35.940 slow learners,

01:35:36.900 or...

01:35:37.120 If I got rabies shots,

01:35:38.520 I'd probably be getting rid of the bats

01:35:39.680 if I had them that bad.

01:35:41.040 Yeah, I think.

01:35:42.180 But, I mean,

01:35:42.740 they can bite you

01:35:43.580 if you have one in your living space.

01:35:45.460 I mean,

01:35:45.660 they could bite you

01:35:46.360 and you not know it

01:35:47.040 when you're asleep. 1.00

01:35:47.640 Damn, they sleep. 1.00

01:35:47.980 Enough to, you know, 1.00

01:35:48.860 just a little prick

01:35:50.200 and you not notice it

01:35:51.460 and there you go.

01:35:52.980 Do, um...

01:35:54.640 Have you had, uh...

01:35:56.460 Anybody...

01:35:57.100 Have you had any senior citizens

01:35:58.240 living with animals

01:35:59.020 they didn't know they were living with?

01:36:00.080 Like, any crazy instances like that?

01:36:02.800 Um...

01:36:03.360 I had an elderly lady 0.73

01:36:05.000 that she kept hearing something

01:36:06.900 and there was a possum in her house. 1.00

01:36:08.980 It had come in through one of the vents

01:36:10.640 in the bedroom

01:36:11.240 that she hadn't used for a while,

01:36:12.700 pushed the vent up,

01:36:14.000 and it was running around the house.

01:36:15.340 She actually thought it was a cat.

01:36:17.540 She just caught...

01:36:18.360 They always think that.

01:36:19.140 ...glimpses of it.

01:36:20.600 But, I mean,

01:36:21.040 other, you know,

01:36:22.580 people not...

01:36:23.120 I mean,

01:36:23.480 that was actually living

01:36:24.480 in the house with her.

01:36:26.000 Amen.

01:36:26.360 You know,

01:36:26.640 and the other ones

01:36:27.120 would be under the house

01:36:28.240 and, uh...

01:36:29.720 I mean,

01:36:30.160 raccoon...

01:36:30.600 They'll...

01:36:31.100 I've had a customer

01:36:32.540 sent me a...

01:36:33.880 They said a...

01:36:34.600 They sent me a message

01:36:35.640 texting me

01:36:36.420 and said,

01:36:36.640 we got a raccoon problem.

01:36:37.800 Can you help?

01:36:38.400 And I said, yeah.

01:36:38.980 And I said,

01:36:39.660 well, you know it's a raccoon.

01:36:41.960 And they sent me a picture.

01:36:43.640 The raccoon had come

01:36:44.680 through the ductwork

01:36:45.460 into the ceiling

01:36:46.480 in the kitchen,

01:36:47.980 knocked the register out,

01:36:50.120 and we're... 0.53

01:36:51.280 When you screw

01:36:51.780 all that ductwork together, 0.94

01:36:52.680 you see these big metal screws,

01:36:54.280 sheet metal screws.

01:36:55.040 Mm-hmm.

01:36:55.180 And it got itself

01:36:56.120 wedged up in them screws

01:36:57.380 and was hanging there

01:36:58.960 in just a bloody mess,

01:37:00.780 where it had been

01:37:01.460 trying to get out

01:37:02.140 all over the ceiling,

01:37:03.260 dripped all over the floor.

01:37:05.020 And she sent me a picture

01:37:06.280 and said,

01:37:06.580 we're pretty sure

01:37:07.220 it's a raccoon.

01:37:08.900 I mean, 1.00

01:37:09.240 picture of the damn thing 1.00

01:37:10.500 still alive, 1.00

01:37:11.300 bleeding all over the place.

01:37:12.420 So I couldn't...

01:37:14.060 I had to...

01:37:14.500 I went over as far

01:37:15.420 as quick as I could

01:37:16.320 and was able to put

01:37:17.460 somebody on the bottom

01:37:18.380 when it took the ductwork 1.00

01:37:19.520 off and captured it

01:37:20.400 and got it out of there.

01:37:21.340 Unbelievable.

01:37:21.820 But they'll get in

01:37:22.320 some pretty predicaments,

01:37:24.100 bad spots.

01:37:25.320 Now,

01:37:25.580 what's animals

01:37:26.040 you won't deal with?

01:37:27.080 I'm guessing probably,

01:37:28.020 for surely,

01:37:28.640 you know,

01:37:28.960 big, large aquatic,

01:37:30.200 I'm sure,

01:37:30.600 isn't your deal.

01:37:31.940 And what else

01:37:33.440 you think isn't?

01:37:35.100 Under my license,

01:37:36.140 we can't mess with...

01:37:36.800 Bear, shark?

01:37:37.880 We can't deal...

01:37:38.760 In Kentucky,

01:37:39.380 we can't deal with deer,

01:37:41.120 turkey,

01:37:42.120 black bear,

01:37:43.080 elk.

01:37:43.460 We're not allowed to...

01:37:44.260 Unless...

01:37:44.740 Who's that?

01:37:45.120 The police you call?

01:37:46.240 One of the...

01:37:47.200 Fish and wildlife.

01:37:48.080 Unless they give us...

01:37:49.400 Unless the commissioner

01:37:50.580 of Fish and Wildlife

01:37:51.420 says,

01:37:51.960 okay,

01:37:53.240 we'll give you permission

01:37:54.300 to take care of this animal.

01:37:55.980 But normally,

01:37:57.080 those are certain

01:37:57.960 type animals

01:37:58.580 that I can't...

01:37:59.440 Like,

01:37:59.720 somebody's got a black bear,

01:38:01.080 I can't help you.

01:38:01.880 So you're that middle man,

01:38:03.100 kind of...

01:38:03.820 And now,

01:38:04.240 what's something you won't

01:38:05.080 go down and handle either?

01:38:06.220 I mean,

01:38:06.400 you're not handling pests,

01:38:07.640 really.

01:38:07.840 You're not handling,

01:38:08.760 you know,

01:38:09.880 roaches or even large roaches.

01:38:11.640 I don't like...

01:38:12.040 I'm scared of spiders.

01:38:13.260 Okay.

01:38:13.480 I'd rather go wrestle

01:38:14.300 a bobcat underneath the house

01:38:16.120 than get a spider.

01:38:17.340 I hate spiders.

01:38:18.340 Yeah. 1.00

01:38:18.940 Damn. 1.00

01:38:19.480 I hate spiders. 1.00

01:38:20.760 Yeah, okay.

01:38:21.180 My wife thinks it's funny.

01:38:22.360 I mean,

01:38:22.680 I'll grab a raccoon

01:38:24.020 with my bare hands

01:38:24.820 and gloves on,

01:38:25.420 but I won't get a spider.

01:38:26.420 I don't like spiders.

01:38:27.260 Wow.

01:38:27.860 Each his own.

01:38:28.680 I don't...

01:38:29.300 So you don't do pests.

01:38:30.320 So you don't do...

01:38:31.000 No, I don't do...

01:38:31.960 Insects.

01:38:32.660 I'm not licensed,

01:38:33.520 but I'm licensed wildlife.

01:38:34.440 I don't do...

01:38:35.240 I don't do the bug work.

01:38:36.580 I mean, that's more...

01:38:38.340 It's more licensing

01:38:39.920 because you're spraying

01:38:40.840 a chemical inside

01:38:41.920 of a house with people.

01:38:43.660 Do you look down

01:38:44.240 on those people at all?

01:38:44.940 Like, it's kind of easy?

01:38:45.700 No, I don't know.

01:38:45.920 I get...

01:38:46.480 They get...

01:38:46.920 They're...

01:38:47.220 I mean,

01:38:47.660 the bug guys,

01:38:49.140 they call me animal guys,

01:38:50.380 but they're...

01:38:51.020 I mean,

01:38:51.180 we get a lot of work

01:38:52.000 from the pest control

01:38:53.120 because they get...

01:38:54.320 They get pest calls.

01:38:55.580 Somebody gets a raccoon,

01:38:56.800 they look up in the phone book

01:38:57.900 and they call pest control.

01:38:59.280 Yeah.

01:38:59.620 Exterminator.

01:39:00.500 And so then that exterminator

01:39:02.220 calls me and says,

01:39:03.460 Hey, Marty,

01:39:04.000 we got...

01:39:04.460 Customers got raccoons.

01:39:06.240 Just take care of it.

01:39:06.940 Right.

01:39:07.220 Or then I'll go to a house

01:39:08.700 and I'll be doing a job

01:39:11.200 where I find termite damage

01:39:12.520 when I'm in crawl space

01:39:14.920 or something like that.

01:39:16.240 Oh, yeah.

01:39:17.040 I recommend this guy.

01:39:18.600 Yeah.

01:39:18.860 And then we help each other out

01:39:20.100 and we pass it back and forth.

01:39:21.740 Right.

01:39:22.400 And we just be in professional courtesy

01:39:23.920 and help each other.

01:39:24.800 I scratch your badger,

01:39:25.900 you scratch mine.

01:39:26.800 Yeah, there you go.

01:39:27.620 And then some guys do both.

01:39:30.200 Yeah.

01:39:30.400 A lot of guys have their pest control license

01:39:32.840 and wildlife license.

01:39:34.500 Okay.

01:39:35.160 But I just had the one.

01:39:36.580 But I mean,

01:39:36.900 the bigger,

01:39:37.480 just bigger company.

01:39:38.820 And then while our pest control

01:39:40.580 is a big, big business.

01:39:41.900 Yeah, yeah.

01:39:42.420 A lot of business.

01:39:43.280 Yeah.

01:39:43.820 It seems like it.

01:39:45.780 Would you get calls every day?

01:39:47.860 Yeah, I get...

01:39:48.900 I mean, I'm not big,

01:39:51.060 you know,

01:39:52.060 hundreds of calls a week,

01:39:53.720 but I get quite...

01:39:54.400 You know, it varies.

01:39:55.320 As you get slow,

01:39:56.260 I might get a bunch of calls

01:39:57.400 and the phone might not ring

01:39:58.640 for a day or two.

01:39:59.560 But I've always got jobs going on.

01:40:01.600 So I'm staying...

01:40:02.140 Right.

01:40:02.480 Because some of them take

01:40:03.120 a couple days,

01:40:04.020 a couple weeks.

01:40:04.380 Well, yeah.

01:40:05.120 Some of them take a while.

01:40:06.160 Bat jobs. 1.00

01:40:06.760 I've got several bat jobs 1.00

01:40:07.960 scheduled already for this spring.

01:40:10.500 And I keep...

01:40:11.880 I'd like to be...

01:40:12.720 I don't want to be busy.

01:40:13.660 I've got one guy

01:40:14.560 and I don't want to be any busier than that.

01:40:16.520 I want...

01:40:17.260 Right.

01:40:17.980 I don't want to get...

01:40:18.760 I don't want to grow too big.

01:40:20.500 I mean, it'd be good to grow,

01:40:21.680 but then you have more people.

01:40:22.980 You have more responsibility.

01:40:23.620 More responsibility.

01:40:24.540 More vehicles.

01:40:25.760 More insurance.

01:40:26.780 More liability.

01:40:27.880 It's a lot.

01:40:28.900 Yeah.

01:40:29.180 And then I'll be home

01:40:31.260 and laying awake

01:40:31.900 worrying about

01:40:32.600 I've got jobs

01:40:34.140 to work for this guy

01:40:35.160 and this guy.

01:40:35.920 I'm going to make this payment.

01:40:37.120 I'm happy with

01:40:38.260 what I'm doing,

01:40:39.100 me and one guy.

01:40:40.260 And that's keeping me happy.

01:40:41.240 Tim, you said his name is.

01:40:42.140 Yeah.

01:40:42.580 Timmy Cooper.

01:40:43.280 He's my farmhand.

01:40:45.300 He's my wildlife man.

01:40:46.780 He's home right now

01:40:47.720 putting an engine

01:40:48.620 in one of our race cars.

01:40:49.840 Oh, really?

01:40:50.340 Yeah.

01:40:50.920 We're getting ready

01:40:51.640 for race season.

01:40:52.280 He's working on that right now.

01:40:53.780 Okay, so the summertime

01:40:55.460 is racing.

01:40:56.120 So what kind of racing

01:40:56.840 do you guys do?

01:40:57.940 Compacts.

01:40:58.940 It's Cavaliers,

01:41:00.100 Hondas.

01:41:00.840 I race a Cavalier.

01:41:02.660 Okay, so you get out there

01:41:03.680 and race.

01:41:04.500 Dirt track.

01:41:05.300 Dirt track racing.

01:41:06.240 Yeah.

01:41:06.480 So how often do you guys

01:41:07.560 do that?

01:41:08.440 Every weekend.

01:41:09.460 Sometimes.

01:41:09.560 Because there's a dirt track

01:41:10.100 right over here.

01:41:11.020 Oh, there is?

01:41:11.800 Yeah, literally.

01:41:13.900 Yeah, that was last year's car.

01:41:16.100 Hawk racing right there.

01:41:17.360 Yeah.

01:41:17.680 Hawk Wildlife Control

01:41:18.660 and that's your car right there.

01:41:19.640 Yeah, that's my car.

01:41:20.440 And that's your company?

01:41:21.720 Yeah, that's my company.

01:41:22.760 Hawk Wildlife Control.

01:41:23.780 Yes, sir.

01:41:24.720 And I'm the driver.

01:41:26.380 Amen, baby.

01:41:27.480 And I've got another car this year.

01:41:29.020 Two of them this year.

01:41:30.640 And Timmy's going to drive it.

01:41:32.660 Who is?

01:41:33.160 Timmy, the guy that works for it.

01:41:34.680 He's going to drive the second car.

01:41:36.160 Okay.

01:41:36.920 And is he...

01:41:37.920 And so now let me see

01:41:38.720 what kind of cage.

01:41:39.240 Zoom in on that, please.

01:41:41.940 What kind of cage you guys...

01:41:43.440 You know what that is?

01:41:45.120 That is a...

01:41:45.820 I bought that car already built.

01:41:48.080 That is a front of a shopping cart.

01:41:50.420 Look at that.

01:41:51.160 Now, look...

01:41:51.600 After I said that

01:41:52.320 and you look at that,

01:41:53.000 that's a front of a shopping cart.

01:41:54.160 It is upside down.

01:41:55.100 I love it.

01:41:55.800 Now, my new car that...

01:41:58.640 Oh, I like this one.

01:42:00.080 The new car that I...

01:42:01.400 You got pictures of it, too.

01:42:03.240 Now, it's got a custom-built roll cage.

01:42:05.320 I mean, it's top-notch.

01:42:06.900 A good friend of mine,

01:42:07.940 Corey Lewis from 1107 Motor Works

01:42:10.080 at home where I live at,

01:42:11.560 he built me a custom...

01:42:12.320 Yeah, that car.

01:42:13.060 He built me a custom cage for me.

01:42:15.340 And now, how fast this thing goes?

01:42:17.420 We'll go 70 miles an hour.

01:42:19.380 60, 70.

01:42:19.920 So, what are the rules in this...

01:42:21.900 What is this branch of racing called again?

01:42:24.580 This is compacts.

01:42:26.020 So, in compacts...

01:42:26.500 They call them Hornets, compacts,

01:42:28.040 four-cylinder class.

01:42:29.120 It's a four-cylinder motor.

01:42:30.120 So, only a four-cylinder motor?

01:42:31.000 Yeah, it's front-wheel drive.

01:42:32.680 There's four-cylinder rear-wheel drives

01:42:34.180 and front-wheel drives.

01:42:35.080 So, these things,

01:42:35.820 you can't even get them going that fast anyway

01:42:37.340 if you wanted to, really.

01:42:38.180 Oh, no.

01:42:38.420 You can spend...

01:42:40.500 You can spend a lot of money on them.

01:42:43.420 I've got to...

01:42:44.400 I've spent way too much this year.

01:42:46.240 I mean, you can go out

01:42:46.960 and spend $4,000 or $5,000

01:42:48.280 if you want on having the motor built.

01:42:50.220 Wow.

01:42:50.700 Just ecotech.

01:42:52.160 Just wants to run around...

01:42:53.180 They're in Cavaliers.

01:42:54.820 They're in Malibus. 0.98

01:42:56.620 There's H8.

01:42:57.080 They're in a bunch of different...

01:42:58.000 Chevrolet engine.

01:42:59.420 But they're just...

01:43:00.020 It's a cheaper class.

01:43:01.780 I mean, you get the Cavalier.

01:43:03.340 It's affordable.

01:43:03.900 Yeah, it's affordable class.

01:43:06.040 You go up late model or modified or sport model

01:43:09.460 and you're getting bigger motors.

01:43:11.320 So, what years and types of cars

01:43:14.440 can be in this class of racing?

01:43:17.120 The R-track rules,

01:43:18.680 it's got to be front-wheel drive

01:43:20.220 and four-cylinder.

01:43:20.900 That's it.

01:43:21.400 Yeah.

01:43:21.700 Anything else?

01:43:22.460 Okay.

01:43:22.820 Take me to a race of that on YouTube, Sean.

01:43:24.840 I just want to see something.

01:43:26.120 We have a local dirt track

01:43:27.540 right there in my home county.

01:43:29.640 Wow.

01:43:29.800 There's several around us.

01:43:31.320 How often will you guys race?

01:43:32.420 I mean, we could race...

01:43:34.300 I mean, we race every Saturday night

01:43:36.240 when the season starts.

01:43:37.560 And then they have other tracks

01:43:38.580 that race on Friday nights 0.63

01:43:39.880 and some race on a Sunday.

01:43:41.240 So, we could go all over.

01:43:43.600 There we go.

01:43:44.100 Move forward, Sean.

01:43:45.560 Wow.

01:43:45.980 So, that's dirt track, huh?

01:43:46.960 It's fun.

01:43:47.620 Is it?

01:43:48.060 Yeah.

01:43:48.460 Is it pretty dangerous or not really?

01:43:50.020 Yeah, it can...

01:43:50.900 I mean, we wear full fire suit and helmet.

01:43:53.200 I mean, it can...

01:43:54.080 I've never got...

01:43:54.920 I mean, I've never wrecked.

01:43:56.240 Other than hitting cars,

01:43:57.580 I've never had a rollover or gone off.

01:43:59.580 I went off the bank once last year,

01:44:01.520 but they were able to drive right back on.

01:44:03.140 But I've watched a lot of guys get hurt in it.

01:44:05.240 You can get hurt in it.

01:44:06.400 How much does it cost to be in it?

01:44:08.420 What, to have the car or just to race?

01:44:10.600 Yeah, just take me through the costs.

01:44:13.380 I mean, to race, 0.99

01:44:15.420 $30 pit pass and I'm racing that night.

01:44:18.240 Wow.

01:44:18.680 Just entropy.

01:44:20.060 And usually we get like a...

01:44:22.220 If we run the feature,

01:44:24.340 you get a $20 start money.

01:44:27.120 You get $20 back out of that.

01:44:28.800 If you win.

01:44:29.300 No, just to start,

01:44:30.660 just to be in the feature.

01:44:31.980 Everybody gets to say there's $15 in the feature,

01:44:34.060 you get that start money back,

01:44:35.600 even though you don't win.

01:44:37.300 And then I think our class...

01:44:38.140 What does feature mean?

01:44:38.800 You get in the top 15?

01:44:39.840 The big race.

01:44:41.180 You've got hot laps.

01:44:42.600 You've got your hot laps.

01:44:43.920 And then you go...

01:44:45.180 You've got a...

01:44:46.020 You hot lap.

01:44:46.660 Qualify.

01:44:47.360 Yeah, and you qualify.

01:44:48.640 And then you go up to get your feature lap.

01:44:51.180 Then you're featured.

01:44:51.720 Sometimes you get...

01:44:52.460 Depends on how many cars you have.

01:44:53.540 You have one feature, two features.

01:44:55.940 But our particular track,

01:44:57.620 I think they're paying out this year $800 for first.

01:45:00.360 Wow.

01:45:00.660 And five for second.

01:45:02.200 That's a lot of money for a little compact.

01:45:03.840 Yeah, it is, man.

01:45:04.700 And how long is the race?

01:45:08.180 Ours is 15 laps.

01:45:10.100 Wow.

01:45:10.980 So what does that take?

01:45:11.980 Maybe 12 minutes?

01:45:14.140 Yeah, I mean, it takes...

01:45:14.940 I mean, you're moving on.

01:45:16.180 Ours is...

01:45:16.860 Some tracks are...

01:45:17.640 Ours is a longer track,

01:45:18.840 and some tracks are shorter.

01:45:20.360 I mean, it seems like it's forever

01:45:21.500 when you're out there.

01:45:22.120 And you have a lot of cautions,

01:45:23.340 and you've got to sit and wait,

01:45:24.420 or somebody wrecks,

01:45:25.620 and they've got to clean up all the...

01:45:26.740 Drag it off the track,

01:45:27.760 and you'll be waiting.

01:45:28.560 I mean, sometimes you might be out there 20 minutes.

01:45:30.780 But it's not...

01:45:30.880 But there's no pit stops or anything like that.

01:45:32.240 No, you can't...

01:45:33.180 In ours, there's no pitting.

01:45:34.600 There's no...

01:45:35.800 If you go...

01:45:36.860 I've run races with flat tires

01:45:38.720 and just kept on going

01:45:39.600 until they tell me to stop.

01:45:41.860 They'll black flag me, 0.94

01:45:43.500 you know, get off the track,

01:45:45.080 and then I'm done.

01:45:46.920 So anybody with a four-cylinder car

01:45:48.500 could go get a pit pass

01:45:49.300 and get in that race?

01:45:50.500 Yeah.

01:45:50.720 As long as it's got a roll cage approved

01:45:53.420 and you've got your safety gear,

01:45:55.060 they'll get in.

01:45:56.260 And some of them inspect them pretty close.

01:45:58.940 But, I mean, you've got to have a helmet

01:46:00.420 and you've got to have safety,

01:46:01.720 your clothes, fire steamers,

01:46:03.340 but, I mean, it's fun.

01:46:05.340 Dirt track has been in my area

01:46:06.940 for years and years.

01:46:08.200 Yeah, my step-by-in.

01:46:09.040 They had bombers and stock cars,

01:46:11.520 bombers,

01:46:12.140 and now we're getting...

01:46:12.960 It's just an affordable class.

01:46:14.760 It's just one that...

01:46:16.460 My first car,

01:46:17.240 I paid $1,200 for it ready to race.

01:46:19.580 They borrowed a helmet

01:46:20.420 and was racing.

01:46:21.460 Yeah.

01:46:22.060 So, this year,

01:46:23.020 I built a new...

01:46:24.720 Bought a car...

01:46:26.720 Bought an old car,

01:46:27.940 motor blowed up,

01:46:29.360 and had it all fixed up

01:46:30.780 and repainted,

01:46:31.640 and new body panels put on it,

01:46:33.740 and then putting in a built...

01:46:34.780 No, had the motor built,

01:46:35.940 put in it,

01:46:36.480 and all new cage built,

01:46:38.000 new racing seat,

01:46:39.040 and it's just a fun way.

01:46:40.380 So now you're getting into it.

01:46:41.380 Now you...

01:46:41.700 Yeah.

01:46:42.200 I mean, I'm advertising.

01:46:43.480 It's business.

01:46:44.780 Yeah.

01:46:45.040 It's right off from my business.

01:46:46.260 I like it.

01:46:46.740 I like it.

01:46:47.220 Wife likes that. 1.00

01:46:48.360 It's a ride off.

01:46:49.000 It's fun.

01:46:49.540 Blow off the steam.

01:46:50.620 It's fun.

01:46:51.340 Honey, I gotta go do

01:46:52.160 some advertising tonight.

01:46:53.420 Yeah.

01:46:54.020 That's all I need.

01:46:54.960 There's quite a few

01:46:56.300 wildlife guys, actually,

01:46:57.540 that know that race cars.

01:46:57.900 Now, you know what would be cool, man,

01:46:59.580 and I'm just gonna give you

01:47:00.660 a free idea here,

01:47:02.100 and this is,

01:47:02.940 you put a cage in the back,

01:47:04.640 you throw a couple animals 1.00

01:47:05.600 in that bitch 1.00

01:47:06.120 while you're driving. 1.00

01:47:08.340 They'd probably frown on that.

01:47:10.080 Well, I don't know,

01:47:11.400 would they?

01:47:12.260 But, dude,

01:47:12.740 you wanna talk about horsepower,

01:47:13.700 talk about raccoon power. 0.60

01:47:14.680 Yeah, there you go.

01:47:15.840 Put a bunch of mean, 0.92

01:47:16.900 pissed off raccoons in it. 0.83

01:47:17.460 Yeah, dude, 1.00

01:47:18.040 be like, damn, 0.99

01:47:18.500 that's got eight raccoons. 1.00

01:47:19.600 It's got 280 horsepower,

01:47:21.720 but it also has

01:47:22.080 eight raccoon power in it, baby.

01:47:24.280 It's not a bad idea, really.

01:47:25.280 But they pay for the car, really.

01:47:27.240 There you go.

01:47:27.600 They're catching raccoons,

01:47:28.700 and animals help pay for that car. 0.99

01:47:30.240 Let them enjoy it, brother.

01:47:31.260 Let them enjoy the ride, man.

01:47:32.640 Some people do different things

01:47:33.840 for energy,

01:47:34.280 you know,

01:47:34.460 go out clubbing,

01:47:35.720 and I go,

01:47:36.160 we go racing.

01:47:36.640 Well, then the kids

01:47:37.280 would wanna come by

01:47:37.800 and see your car

01:47:38.420 before the race.

01:47:38.980 You know what I'm saying?

01:47:39.700 There would be...

01:47:40.100 Oh, well,

01:47:40.280 they come down in the pits,

01:47:41.300 and they look at the cars

01:47:42.380 and take pictures.

01:47:43.280 I love the kids.

01:47:44.400 We do,

01:47:45.160 there's a thing they call

01:47:46.340 running the track in

01:47:47.260 before the race

01:47:48.140 where they're getting

01:47:49.700 the track ready,

01:47:50.500 and it gets a little bit

01:47:51.800 too wet where they water,

01:47:52.740 and we go run it in,

01:47:53.820 just dry it out,

01:47:55.020 and we just go slow.

01:47:57.240 We don't go real fast,

01:47:58.160 and we'll take kids

01:47:59.040 we can have somebody

01:47:59.660 go with us.

01:48:00.200 Oh, that's cool.

01:48:00.640 You're talking about

01:48:01.240 making a little

01:48:02.220 10-year-old's day,

01:48:03.080 him riding that car.

01:48:04.080 I bet.

01:48:04.720 Oh, man,

01:48:05.140 just,

01:48:05.680 they love it,

01:48:06.440 you know,

01:48:06.600 get to ride in a race car.

01:48:07.780 I mean,

01:48:07.940 we're not NASCAR,

01:48:09.600 but...

01:48:09.820 No, but to them,

01:48:10.500 you are.

01:48:10.880 Yeah, I mean,

01:48:11.480 it's,

01:48:11.800 for where I'm at,

01:48:12.660 it's kind of like,

01:48:13.280 no, we're NASCAR.

01:48:14.780 Oh, to a 10-year-old?

01:48:15.660 It's still a race car.

01:48:17.100 To a 10-year-old

01:48:18.040 being on a track

01:48:18.660 made out of dirt,

01:48:19.380 which is one of

01:48:19.740 their favorite things.

01:48:20.540 We have a,

01:48:21.320 he's,

01:48:21.900 I guess,

01:48:22.240 11 now.

01:48:23.880 Last year,

01:48:24.620 he was racing

01:48:25.300 a compact,

01:48:30.640 and they start them.

01:48:32.280 I race against a lot of kids

01:48:33.620 that are 10,

01:48:34.240 12,

01:48:34.680 14 years old,

01:48:35.920 and here I'm 48

01:48:36.940 and I'm racing

01:48:37.560 against 10-year-olds.

01:48:39.260 Oh, look, man,

01:48:40.220 that's the world today, man.

01:48:41.780 It's, you know,

01:48:42.060 we got to compete

01:48:42.560 with the young,

01:48:43.220 bro, the competition.

01:48:43.860 And those are the ones

01:48:44.900 that will make a big,

01:48:45.600 will make race car drivers

01:48:46.720 when they started out young.

01:48:48.200 Yeah, totally.

01:48:49.220 Yeah.

01:48:49.380 Yeah, maybe let's,

01:48:50.560 maybe we can leave out

01:48:51.260 if there's a story

01:48:52.460 that you want to tell us

01:48:53.360 something,

01:48:53.640 maybe something like

01:48:54.180 a wild experience

01:48:55.200 that's happened

01:48:55.660 over the years.

01:48:57.740 Well, the one

01:48:58.400 we discussed,

01:48:59.740 get a call

01:49:01.620 from a,

01:49:02.860 I do a lot of,

01:49:03.940 a lot of local work,

01:49:04.920 but sheriff departments,

01:49:05.840 police departments

01:49:06.360 will give me calls.

01:49:07.580 They get a deer

01:49:08.620 stuck in a fence or.

01:49:10.180 Now, will they sometimes

01:49:10.740 call you when they just

01:49:11.340 don't want to deal

01:49:11.780 with something sometimes?

01:49:12.360 Well, they're just

01:49:12.920 not their field.

01:49:13.900 Okay.

01:49:14.120 You know,

01:49:14.320 they get,

01:49:14.940 I'll get a call,

01:49:15.920 you know,

01:49:16.060 we got this raccoon

01:49:17.020 and somebody's got

01:49:17.800 a pet raccoon

01:49:18.480 or they'll call me

01:49:20.120 or police.

01:49:22.660 This happens a lot.

01:49:25.160 The old,

01:49:26.940 I don't have,

01:49:27.820 you know,

01:49:28.060 with a person

01:49:29.420 at home,

01:49:30.420 residents,

01:49:31.880 and they hear something

01:49:33.100 and think somebody's

01:49:33.840 breaking in.

01:49:34.520 It's a raccoon

01:49:35.540 in their attic

01:49:36.100 and they think

01:49:36.500 it's a person up there.

01:49:37.540 Oh, of course.

01:49:38.040 So then,

01:49:38.620 the cops are,

01:49:39.700 you know,

01:49:39.900 they'll be like,

01:49:40.440 well,

01:49:40.600 we know Marty.

01:49:41.520 Let's,

01:49:41.920 you know,

01:49:42.100 here,

01:49:42.360 here's his number

01:49:43.180 and they'll call me

01:49:44.720 and then I'll come out

01:49:45.640 and I'll take care

01:49:46.280 of it for them.

01:49:46.900 But I get a call

01:49:47.800 one night

01:49:48.300 and it was real,

01:49:48.980 it was,

01:49:49.500 I don't know,

01:49:50.020 one or two o'clock

01:49:50.780 in the morning.

01:49:51.160 I get a call

01:49:51.700 from a sheriff's department

01:49:52.740 a couple counties away

01:49:53.840 from their dispatch

01:49:55.340 that we need your help.

01:49:58.060 They stop and they have

01:49:59.780 an unusual occupant

01:50:01.520 in the vehicle.

01:50:03.060 And I said,

01:50:04.320 well, what?

01:50:04.660 And they said,

01:50:05.000 well,

01:50:05.260 they said it might be a deer.

01:50:06.920 I said, okay.

01:50:07.500 So I grab a big dog,

01:50:08.760 dog crate

01:50:09.560 and my daughter wanted to go.

01:50:11.160 She was still up.

01:50:12.220 We're night owls

01:50:13.160 and so she goes with me.

01:50:15.300 And so I go,

01:50:16.380 we travel there,

01:50:17.180 took about an hour

01:50:17.920 to get there

01:50:18.540 and I get there

01:50:19.740 and there's all the cops

01:50:21.120 are all on the side

01:50:21.920 of the road

01:50:22.440 and they got the guy

01:50:23.640 out there

01:50:24.040 and they're doing the,

01:50:24.880 they're still doing

01:50:25.600 a sobriety test on him

01:50:26.940 where he was drunk

01:50:28.000 and I get up to the car

01:50:29.280 and there's baby deer

01:50:30.000 in the front seat.

01:50:31.380 And what was he doing?

01:50:32.280 Just sitting there?

01:50:33.400 Well, the guy had a pet deer.

01:50:34.560 I mean,

01:50:34.720 the guy's driving around drunk

01:50:35.840 with pet deer in his car.

01:50:37.120 Oh, hell yeah.

01:50:37.680 In the front seat.

01:50:38.640 And I think actually

01:50:39.860 they tried,

01:50:40.460 I think they got him

01:50:41.320 for wanting endangerment maybe

01:50:42.820 with like a passenger for

01:50:44.520 because it was an occupant.

01:50:46.060 Oh.

01:50:46.920 Endangering that animal.

01:50:47.820 I guess that's,

01:50:48.720 and it was tame.

01:50:50.520 I mean,

01:50:50.700 it had been bottle fed

01:50:51.560 and so we get the deer out,

01:50:54.000 put it in my truck

01:50:54.680 and I,

01:50:55.840 you got pictures,

01:50:56.700 he's got pictures of that.

01:50:57.840 They had it in my truck

01:50:59.020 bottle feeding it

01:50:59.980 on the way home.

01:51:00.960 Was it in the front seat

01:51:01.840 or back seat?

01:51:03.320 It was in the front seat

01:51:04.000 of the car.

01:51:04.460 Hell yeah.

01:51:04.900 Right in the front seat.

01:51:05.960 I think they had a seatbelt.

01:51:06.960 Hell,

01:51:07.180 it could have been 1.00

01:51:07.560 a damn date, dude, 1.00

01:51:08.540 honestly. 1.00

01:51:08.960 Well,

01:51:09.600 not to judge.

01:51:11.760 But I mean,

01:51:12.400 he had,

01:51:12.740 like you talked about the bling,

01:51:13.920 it had a big fancy collar on it.

01:51:15.580 They had a collar,

01:51:16.420 a little pretty dog collar on it.

01:51:18.480 Look,

01:51:18.840 it's hard to meet somebody,

01:51:19.860 man,

01:51:20.060 in some areas.

01:51:21.220 You know,

01:51:21.580 no judgment,

01:51:22.280 it is.

01:51:22.700 But what it found out,

01:51:24.500 the guy had,

01:51:25.440 just like I talked to you before,

01:51:27.000 he found it on abandoned,

01:51:29.160 said it was orphaned.

01:51:30.180 Wow.

01:51:30.640 Picked it up,

01:51:31.400 you know,

01:51:31.860 and kept it

01:51:32.820 because he didn't think

01:51:33.440 mommy was around.

01:51:34.220 But we kept it for a week or so.

01:51:35.700 My daughter,

01:51:36.400 she bottle fed it 0.97

01:51:37.420 and then we took it

01:51:38.120 to a rehabber.

01:51:39.220 And they,

01:51:40.100 I didn't check by me,

01:51:41.340 they raise,

01:51:41.780 they'll bottle feed them,

01:51:42.480 raise them up

01:51:42.840 and they'll turn them loose.

01:51:43.640 Take them out in the wild.

01:51:46.000 Any wild horses

01:51:47.060 or anything you've ever been called

01:51:48.020 or anything that just,

01:51:49.080 anything like that?

01:51:50.440 Any wild?

01:51:51.580 Horses?

01:51:52.720 No.

01:51:53.880 Trying to think of any other animals

01:51:55.300 that really are.

01:51:57.100 It's nice to know

01:51:58.140 where this middle ground is.

01:51:59.520 I get turtle calls.

01:52:00.820 I've done some,

01:52:01.620 you know,

01:52:01.880 people just complain

01:52:02.640 about snapping turtles

01:52:03.860 in their ponds.

01:52:04.880 Oh, yeah.

01:52:05.020 Just don't want snapping turtles

01:52:06.200 in their ponds.

01:52:06.760 You have to go.

01:52:07.440 You get in there?

01:52:08.760 Oh, I don't do turtle man.

01:52:10.100 I don't go in

01:52:10.660 and wrestle the turtles. 1.00

01:52:11.500 And who does that?

01:52:12.720 Well, the turtle man guy,

01:52:14.240 I don't do the...

01:52:15.560 Oh, you call a reptile guy?

01:52:16.700 Yeah, he's,

01:52:17.560 he had a show on.

01:52:18.780 He's from Kentucky.

01:52:20.120 Oh, really?

01:52:20.620 Called Turtle Man.

01:52:21.780 Oh, I never saw it.

01:52:22.640 Yeah, oh,

01:52:22.960 he used to have a TV show on.

01:52:24.760 Did he?

01:52:25.180 Yeah.

01:52:25.920 He don't,

01:52:26.660 it's not on anymore.

01:52:27.840 He would go into ponds

01:52:28.800 and actually grab them.

01:52:31.460 Yeah, there you go.

01:52:32.160 He is actually a good friend

01:52:34.540 of my good friend,

01:52:36.220 Ronnie Vincent,

01:52:36.860 who helped me get started

01:52:37.700 in the wildlife business.

01:52:38.980 And he actually is a turtle wrangler.

01:52:40.760 That's what he was known for.

01:52:42.360 He goes in there,

01:52:43.140 fills for them

01:52:43.840 and grabs them by the tail

01:52:44.920 and pulls them out.

01:52:45.660 Wow.

01:52:46.420 I just use a jug

01:52:47.660 and a hook

01:52:48.180 and catch them 0.99

01:52:48.840 and get rid of them for them. 0.95

01:52:51.300 But it's interesting

01:52:52.260 that the whole field,

01:52:53.660 it seems like,

01:52:54.400 you know,

01:52:54.640 your grandfather

01:52:55.220 kind of got you

01:52:56.100 into dealing with animals

01:52:57.420 and it's just interesting

01:52:59.580 that like,

01:53:01.600 in the same way

01:53:02.700 that there's kind of

01:53:03.240 the food chain

01:53:04.140 and mother nature

01:53:04.880 that the way

01:53:05.920 that we learn things

01:53:06.780 from each other

01:53:07.360 and a lot of it

01:53:07.900 is by another human

01:53:09.640 showing us something.

01:53:11.100 You know,

01:53:11.340 it's like anybody

01:53:12.320 could give you a book

01:53:13.320 or send you a link

01:53:14.000 to a video

01:53:14.500 but unless you really

01:53:15.380 have somebody

01:53:15.880 kind of showing you

01:53:17.680 a lot of times,

01:53:18.600 it's really how you

01:53:19.180 get into things.

01:53:19.760 It's like the trapping

01:53:20.960 part to dine thing.

01:53:22.640 Yeah.

01:53:23.000 I've had a buddy,

01:53:26.360 he didn't know him

01:53:27.500 at the time

01:53:28.020 several years ago.

01:53:29.000 He messages me,

01:53:30.300 hey man,

01:53:30.880 I like,

01:53:31.300 I watch your,

01:53:32.040 I post all my

01:53:33.040 catch pictures

01:53:33.880 in the wintertime

01:53:34.520 on my Facebook page.

01:53:35.600 Everybody wants to see

01:53:36.340 my,

01:53:36.740 everybody's fascinated

01:53:38.120 with it

01:53:38.740 and just loves to see

01:53:39.960 all the pictures.

01:53:40.580 We'll put a link to that.

01:53:41.640 What is it?

01:53:42.800 It's on my,

01:53:43.640 just on my Facebook page,

01:53:45.040 Marty Voyeurs.

01:53:45.980 All right,

01:53:46.220 we'll put a link to that.

01:53:46.660 Then I have my business page,

01:53:49.560 Hawk Wildlife Control

01:53:50.560 is on Facebook also.

01:53:51.980 Okay.

01:53:53.940 So he messaged me

01:53:55.080 and said,

01:53:55.680 I like your stuff.

01:53:57.220 Can I get in?

01:53:58.000 Will you help me?

01:53:58.900 Yeah.

01:53:59.340 And so for about

01:54:00.060 the next two years,

01:54:01.460 he went trapping,

01:54:02.160 we became real good friends.

01:54:03.380 We trapped,

01:54:03.860 I showed him,

01:54:04.500 he didn't know a thing.

01:54:06.200 I mean,

01:54:06.480 his name was Josh Bryan.

01:54:07.880 Maybe he'll get to see this

01:54:09.040 and we became good friends

01:54:10.640 and I taught him

01:54:11.380 all about trapping

01:54:12.580 and everything

01:54:13.180 that I've learned

01:54:13.920 over the years

01:54:14.580 and went out

01:54:15.460 and trapped together

01:54:16.160 for a couple years

01:54:17.000 and then he went

01:54:17.520 on his own.

01:54:18.200 Now he traps.

01:54:19.440 And hopefully he'll pass,

01:54:20.880 he's got two daughters

01:54:21.700 and hopefully maybe

01:54:22.780 he'll pass that down

01:54:23.620 to one of them

01:54:24.200 or get to pass it on.

01:54:25.160 I've helped several kids,

01:54:26.620 no,

01:54:26.820 he's not a kid,

01:54:27.620 but I've helped

01:54:28.060 several people like that

01:54:29.200 pass that tradition on.

01:54:30.700 Right.

01:54:31.120 Which is a dying tradition.

01:54:32.480 Is it?

01:54:32.980 Yeah.

01:54:33.240 I mean,

01:54:33.480 you just don't see it in him.

01:54:35.180 I mean,

01:54:35.640 who do you know

01:54:36.240 that goes out

01:54:36.680 and traps coyotes

01:54:37.440 in the winter?

01:54:37.900 It's just a dying tradition.

01:54:39.220 Nobody,

01:54:40.480 I mean,

01:54:40.740 it's kind of a,

01:54:41.360 you know,

01:54:41.580 one year,

01:54:42.480 my wife let me grow a beard.

01:54:43.940 I mean,

01:54:44.640 I had a mountain man,

01:54:45.900 a pretty big,

01:54:46.700 there you go.

01:54:47.280 Big,

01:54:47.680 full beard,

01:54:48.620 fun,

01:54:49.040 can't do it no more,

01:54:49.680 she won't let me.

01:54:50.320 She won't?

01:54:50.800 No.

01:54:51.260 Why,

01:54:51.560 what happens?

01:54:52.180 She just don't like the beards.

01:54:53.140 Yeah.

01:54:54.020 Oh,

01:54:54.280 I can have a beard

01:54:54.920 if it's neat and trimmed.

01:54:56.200 Yeah. 0.64

01:54:56.440 And she's going to kill me 1.00

01:54:57.220 for, 0.99

01:54:57.440 you know,

01:54:57.540 talking about her,

01:54:58.240 but I can,

01:54:58.920 if it's all neat and trimmed,

01:55:00.100 I can have it,

01:55:00.840 but.

01:55:01.160 Rules is rules.

01:55:01.920 We need rules,

01:55:02.760 man.

01:55:02.980 We need rules.

01:55:03.880 Happy wife,

01:55:04.700 happy life.

01:55:05.320 There you go.

01:55:05.720 That's what they say.

01:55:06.180 I believe that,

01:55:06.860 man.

01:55:07.900 Now,

01:55:08.400 but tell me this,

01:55:09.020 so a trapper,

01:55:09.760 what does a trapper do?

01:55:10.800 I just want to finish here

01:55:11.540 so I know exactly,

01:55:12.680 clearly what a trapper is

01:55:13.940 and what it does.

01:55:15.040 You mean trapper versus

01:55:16.140 wildlife,

01:55:17.180 nuisance wildlife?

01:55:18.360 Right,

01:55:18.780 so when you say like

01:55:19.440 you go trapping coyotes,

01:55:20.860 like what do you,

01:55:21.540 like.

01:55:21.720 So when,

01:55:22.260 when I'm trapping,

01:55:23.120 I'm fur trapping there.

01:55:24.320 Let me put it fur.

01:55:25.480 Nuisance wildlife,

01:55:26.940 getting rid of animals,

01:55:28.180 I don't keep those furs.

01:55:29.880 If I catch a raccoon,

01:55:30.860 it's out of season.

01:55:32.180 Right.

01:55:32.460 I don't keep those animals. 0.73

01:55:33.740 Right.

01:55:34.480 And fur trapping is in the,

01:55:37.040 winter months

01:55:37.700 from November

01:55:38.340 to end of February

01:55:39.520 is fur bear season

01:55:41.060 when I can go out

01:55:41.740 and trap,

01:55:42.640 you can go out

01:55:43.180 and trap ground

01:55:44.140 or go out

01:55:45.400 and trap coyotes,

01:55:46.380 raccoons,

01:55:47.600 fox,

01:55:49.200 beavers,

01:55:50.040 bobcats.

01:55:50.900 So it's just the same

01:55:51.540 as hunting season

01:55:52.200 but it's fur trapping season.

01:55:53.140 it's fur bear season,

01:55:54.140 fur trapping season.

01:55:55.240 And you know,

01:55:55.760 it's a lot of young kids,

01:55:56.920 you know,

01:55:57.060 a lot of people do it,

01:55:57.900 do old timers

01:55:58.780 and pass it on

01:55:59.720 and just people learn it.

01:56:01.140 I mean,

01:56:01.320 there's a million

01:56:02.020 YouTube videos about it.

01:56:04.360 I mean,

01:56:04.860 I'm still learning stuff

01:56:05.760 every day

01:56:06.220 and I watch new techniques

01:56:08.060 and new methods,

01:56:09.660 you know,

01:56:09.920 everybody's got their own

01:56:11.620 method on how they trap

01:56:13.260 or baits they use

01:56:14.480 or bait and lure business

01:56:15.940 is a huge business.

01:56:17.140 Is it?

01:56:17.420 Trapping.

01:56:17.780 Oh yeah,

01:56:18.160 I mean,

01:56:19.000 they all make the similar baits

01:56:20.700 but everybody's got

01:56:21.380 their best bait.

01:56:22.560 What's that type of bait? 0.95

01:56:23.460 You use a lure?

01:56:24.160 What do you use?

01:56:24.800 Chicken liver?

01:56:25.700 No,

01:56:26.480 it's like on my

01:56:27.800 predator trapping,

01:56:28.960 one of my favorite lures

01:56:30.260 is Jeff Dunlop lures

01:56:31.720 and he's just a big

01:56:33.020 hardcore trapper

01:56:34.140 and has developed

01:56:35.120 his own lure,

01:56:36.080 baits and lures.

01:56:37.060 And now,

01:56:37.440 what kind of

01:56:37.980 meat,

01:56:39.820 if you use a

01:56:40.400 meat or something,

01:56:41.760 you use a bean?

01:56:42.140 Well,

01:56:42.520 most lures are made with,

01:56:44.200 baits are made with

01:56:45.320 like muskrat meat,

01:56:46.980 tainted muskrat meat

01:56:48.520 that's aged

01:56:49.480 and got preserved

01:56:50.380 a bit with it

01:56:51.160 or beaver meat

01:56:53.400 that's tainted

01:56:54.900 a little bit

01:56:55.300 to give off the smell

01:56:57.540 for that predator.

01:56:58.880 Oh yeah.

01:56:59.860 Sort of like

01:57:00.340 bobcat,

01:57:02.560 you know,

01:57:02.800 the muskrat meat

01:57:04.660 based bait.

01:57:05.540 They like that

01:57:06.100 scrat.

01:57:07.440 Pardon?

01:57:07.920 They like that

01:57:08.360 scrat meat.

01:57:09.080 Yeah.

01:57:10.220 I mean,

01:57:10.440 it's one of the things

01:57:11.000 they eat.

01:57:11.460 Right.

01:57:11.900 You know,

01:57:12.080 I mean,

01:57:12.380 they're beavers.

01:57:14.580 Bobcats love beavers.

01:57:16.000 So let me name something

01:57:16.940 and you tell me

01:57:17.380 what eats it,

01:57:17.920 all right?

01:57:18.240 a groundhog.

01:57:22.700 Coyote.

01:57:23.420 Okay.

01:57:24.360 Coyote.

01:57:27.440 A car. 1.00

01:57:28.740 Damn. 1.00

01:57:29.260 I mean, 1.00

01:57:29.720 that's their,

01:57:30.440 they don't have

01:57:31.000 a man predator.

01:57:31.200 Look,

01:57:31.480 I mean,

01:57:32.320 man's the coyote's predator.

01:57:34.480 Okay.

01:57:35.020 So the food chain,

01:57:35.960 it should have 0.99

01:57:36.240 a damn Volvo in it, 1.00

01:57:37.400 huh? 1.00

01:57:37.660 Yeah.

01:57:38.300 You might say that.

01:57:40.760 I think that's

01:57:41.620 kind of good,

01:57:42.280 man.

01:57:42.420 Sean,

01:57:42.620 what do you feel like?

01:57:43.380 Any questions today?

01:57:44.960 I don't think so.

01:57:46.360 I feel like we covered

01:57:47.400 a lot of good stuff

01:57:48.200 man.

01:57:48.400 Do you feel like

01:57:48.820 you gave out

01:57:49.200 a lot of good

01:57:49.620 information?

01:57:50.600 I mean,

01:57:52.100 I had more,

01:57:52.660 I mean,

01:57:52.860 we,

01:57:53.300 we kind of got off

01:57:54.240 on other,

01:57:55.380 I didn't think about,

01:57:56.220 I didn't know

01:57:56.640 we were going to talk

01:57:57.100 about predator,

01:57:57.840 fur trap in a race,

01:57:59.280 but that's all good.

01:58:00.440 You know,

01:58:00.580 it's all about me.

01:58:01.100 it's all interesting stuff.

01:58:02.100 You know,

01:58:02.260 some of that is,

01:58:02.960 I think myself

01:58:04.480 and even a lot

01:58:05.060 of our listeners,

01:58:05.560 I would love,

01:58:06.240 I think 180,

01:58:06.860 I didn't know

01:58:07.380 that there was access

01:58:08.380 to be able to go race

01:58:10.100 cars if I wanted

01:58:11.340 to like that.

01:58:12.260 So,

01:58:13.220 you know,

01:58:13.460 to know that if I

01:58:14.300 were to put together,

01:58:15.880 you know,

01:58:16.080 you said it's about

01:58:16.580 a five to $5,000

01:58:17.800 automobile you have

01:58:18.560 to put together.

01:58:18.940 I mean,

01:58:19.220 it's the,

01:58:20.440 you can go out,

01:58:22.060 say you,

01:58:22.740 I mean,

01:58:23.640 we get them,

01:58:24.500 I get on my,

01:58:25.020 I'm always looking

01:58:25.600 for Cavaliers,

01:58:26.240 that's what I race.

01:58:27.300 You get on Facebook

01:58:28.320 Marketplace,

01:58:29.040 I'll find a Cavalier,

01:58:30.900 $800,

01:58:31.820 runs good.

01:58:33.040 Boom.

01:58:33.560 I'm going to snatch 1.00

01:58:34.080 that sucker up, 1.00

01:58:35.000 strip, 1.00

01:58:35.340 you know,

01:58:35.540 you strip the whole

01:58:36.260 interior out,

01:58:37.460 throw your roll cage

01:58:38.420 in it,

01:58:39.160 you know,

01:58:39.500 you can use the stock

01:58:40.480 tires or put racing

01:58:41.580 wheels and tires on it,

01:58:42.940 bead locks.

01:58:43.800 You can zoop up

01:58:45.040 the motor,

01:58:45.560 add some modifications

01:58:46.700 to it,

01:58:47.080 and you got to take

01:58:47.520 all the glass,

01:58:48.280 all the glass,

01:58:49.040 tail lights out of it,

01:58:50.300 bam, 1.00

01:58:50.580 go race and slap you. 1.00

01:58:51.840 Some guys just take 1.00

01:58:52.740 a spray paint can

01:58:53.520 and paint a number

01:58:54.040 on them.

01:58:54.980 Some guys,

01:58:55.460 but I've got several

01:58:56.280 sponsors,

01:58:56.960 so I'm lucky to,

01:58:58.720 I mean,

01:58:58.860 I don't have a lot,

01:58:59.940 but I got enough

01:59:00.640 to where I can get

01:59:01.220 some real graphics

01:59:02.620 done.

01:59:03.280 Yeah.

01:59:03.940 But I mean,

01:59:04.360 it's a,

01:59:05.840 I mean,

01:59:06.000 anybody can get into it.

01:59:06.720 I mean,

01:59:06.880 you got a little bit

01:59:07.480 of money,

01:59:07.840 go out and get a car.

01:59:08.540 I don't know,

01:59:09.520 every track's different.

01:59:10.520 They all have their rules,

01:59:11.760 but this is country,

01:59:13.660 down home country,

01:59:15.560 I mean,

01:59:15.980 Saturday night,

01:59:16.740 yeah,

01:59:16.960 I mean,

01:59:17.540 just about every weekend

01:59:18.520 you're going to see

01:59:19.080 a good fight usually.

01:59:20.540 Fights break out,

01:59:21.500 people,

01:59:21.800 one guy's pissed

01:59:22.560 at the other guy, 0.85

01:59:23.400 you hit me,

01:59:24.480 and you did this,

01:59:25.840 and getting the fights,

01:59:27.360 I mean,

01:59:27.680 it's pretty,

01:59:28.500 it's fun.

01:59:29.140 You know,

01:59:29.380 it's all for all,

01:59:30.300 there's babies running

01:59:31.140 around there,

01:59:32.300 to people in wheelchairs.

01:59:33.940 Yeah.

01:59:34.100 It's fun for all,

01:59:35.000 it's a good,

01:59:35.680 my daughter's going to go

01:59:36.540 work at our racetrack

01:59:37.460 this year,

01:59:37.800 she's going to help

01:59:38.300 work the gate.

01:59:39.120 So,

01:59:39.400 I mean,

01:59:39.640 everybody in the family

01:59:41.080 be involved in it,

01:59:41.900 kind of.

01:59:42.380 So,

01:59:42.960 all race,

01:59:45.560 it's fun,

01:59:46.360 it's a good way

01:59:46.860 to blow off steam.

01:59:47.780 Yeah.

01:59:48.180 We don't,

01:59:48.680 I don't club and party,

01:59:50.220 do all that scene,

01:59:51.200 so we go Saturday nights,

01:59:52.420 we go racetrack.

01:59:53.300 I love that.

01:59:54.140 I love that,

01:59:55.160 man.

01:59:55.980 No,

01:59:56.380 look,

01:59:56.780 man,

01:59:57.120 I think it's really

01:59:57.840 fascinating stuff,

01:59:59.040 you know,

01:59:59.380 I appreciate you so much,

02:00:01.280 Mr. Vourish,

02:00:02.100 for joining us today.

02:00:03.020 I'm honored to be here.

02:00:04.080 Yeah,

02:00:04.320 man,

02:00:04.520 it's really,

02:00:04.940 really cool,

02:00:05.700 and we'll put links

02:00:07.060 to where people can check you out

02:00:08.220 or hire you,

02:00:08.800 and you're mostly in the

02:00:10.040 Kentucky area?

02:00:11.180 Yeah,

02:00:11.400 I do in Ohio too.

02:00:12.480 Okay.

02:00:12.760 Across the river,

02:00:13.580 Ohio River in Ohio.

02:00:15.560 So yeah,

02:00:16.500 man,

02:00:16.720 if you guys want to meet

02:00:17.440 the magic man,

02:00:18.500 somebody's got to work,

02:00:19.820 somebody's got to work

02:00:20.400 the middle ground

02:00:21.060 of the animal kingdom,

02:00:22.020 huh?

02:00:22.120 Yep.

02:00:22.900 And that's who he is,

02:00:23.580 the middle man himself.

02:00:24.560 Thank you so much,

02:00:25.120 Mr. Vourish.

02:00:25.560 All right,

02:00:25.800 thank you very much.

02:00:26.580 Now I'm just floating

02:00:28.240 on the breeze,

02:00:29.440 and I feel I'm falling

02:00:31.000 like these leaves,

02:00:32.400 I must be

02:00:33.420 cornerstone.

02:00:37.540 Oh,

02:00:38.440 but when I reach

02:00:39.460 that ground,

02:00:40.340 I'll share this

02:00:41.260 peace of mind

02:00:42.360 I found,

02:00:43.140 I can feel it

02:00:44.440 in my bones

02:00:46.540 But it's gonna take

02:00:49.460 a little time

02:00:52.220 for me to set

02:00:54.620 that parking brake

02:00:56.100 and let myself

02:00:57.720 unwind

02:00:58.820 Shine that light

02:01:01.660 on me

02:01:02.820 I'll sit and tell you

02:01:07.180 my stories

02:01:08.540 Shine on me

02:01:13.480 And I will

02:01:16.000 find a song

02:01:17.720 I will sing it

02:01:19.280 just for you

02:01:21.420 And now I've been

02:01:26.980 moving way too fast

02:01:28.680 On the runaway train

02:01:30.080 with a heavy load

02:01:31.280 of my past

02:01:33.560 And these rails

02:01:37.480 that I've been

02:01:38.220 riding on

02:01:39.160 They're worn so thin 0.99

02:01:40.580 that they're damn 0.98

02:01:41.280 they're gone 0.99

02:01:41.880 I guess now

02:01:42.680 they just weren't

02:01:43.800 built to land

02:01:44.840 and next to me

02:01:54.900 I will follow...

02:01:56.380 I'll show you

02:01:57.240 what it's gonna

02:01:58.920 be

02:01:59.860 lev Christine

02:02:01.060 nearby

02:02:01.760 And now I'll be

02:02:02.240 watching

02:02:02.980 And remember

02:02:03.960 And let me

02:02:04.620 listen

02:02:04.640 to the

02:02:06.580 ar

02:02:07.500 Hope

02:02:08.200 May

02:02:08.500 you

This Past Weekend with Theo Von - March 24, 2021

E330 Mid-Sized Animal Control Man

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