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00:01:28.260 Today's guest holds a unique job in the world.

00:01:31.580 And it's that job when there's a fire or a murdering or a hoarder or trauma.

00:01:43.900 Somebody's got to go into those spaces and clean up.

00:01:48.720 Somebody's got to go do the dirty work, baby. 0.99

00:01:52.560 You know, somebody's got to be that little Shawshank baby crawling through the muck. 1.00

00:01:57.120 And we have that man here today.

00:01:59.980 He is a trauma restoration man.

00:02:03.620 And he's out of Minneapolis.

00:02:06.160 And we're grateful for him.

00:02:08.260 Today's guest is trauma restoration man, Mr. Bobby Cotton.

00:02:12.820 And I will find a song I've been singing just for me.

00:02:40.460 Yeah, where are you from, Rob?

00:02:47.440 Minneapolis.

00:02:48.280 Oh, nice, dude.

00:02:49.580 Yeah, we went out there and did some shows not too long ago.

00:02:53.100 Minneapolis is so strange now, it feels like.

00:02:55.120 Like the downtown, it feels deserted.

00:02:56.900 Yeah, they're making everyone, like the city and the state is actually after businesses to bring people back to the cities.

00:03:03.040 Really?

00:03:04.000 Yeah, they want them back in the offices because they, like all the, like there's nothing down there.

00:03:09.700 It's just deserted.

00:03:10.520 So like all the little businesses and shops are all closing down because no one's down there.

00:03:14.800 Yeah, it's like a bunch of murals and nothing else.

00:03:17.880 Yeah.

00:03:18.060 I'm funny, it's like everybody left and they just drew people in the buildings.

00:03:21.900 Yeah.

00:03:22.140 Yeah, and, you know, they had all the George Floyd stuff, all them riots that happened.

00:03:27.680 Yeah.

00:03:27.920 Man, it was just.

00:03:28.780 That ruined the whole vibe down there.

00:03:29.880 Well, it was crazy.

00:03:30.540 Everything got smashed out, you know, because I, you know, in restoration, like a big old part of what I do is like when there's a fire or a window gets broken, I run out in the middle of the night and board stuff up.

00:03:39.120 Oh, really? 0.88

00:03:40.040 I mean, shit, I mean, I was, I was working like 120 hours a week boarding up all the, all the buildings. 0.99

00:03:45.440 I had, you know, 300 sheets of plywood going up a day. 1.00

00:03:48.980 It was crazy.

00:03:49.980 Well, so you're saying, so I'm sitting here with Rob Cotton and he's a trauma restoration man.

00:03:58.640 And so you're saying that during the, and we're going to get into your job.

00:04:03.480 We just started chatting.

00:04:05.740 So in Minneapolis, during the George Floyd stuff, you guys were going out, you guys go out and board stuff up.

00:04:10.400 Yeah, yeah.

00:04:10.960 So whenever there's a, you know, riot, you know, we do board up.

00:04:13.920 So anytime there's a fire or there's a robbery or something, you know, you got to secure those buildings.

00:04:19.340 And during the George Floyd stuff, we were doing stuff preventatively.

00:04:22.680 People were worried about getting robbed and there was a lot of looting and stuff.

00:04:25.540 So, I mean, we were boarding up and securing buildings, trying to prevent people from smashing the windows in.

00:04:30.000 Wow.

00:04:30.220 I mean, we were working like 24 hours a day taking naps in the truck.

00:04:33.460 Dang.

00:04:33.940 Yeah, it was bad.

00:04:34.940 Were there certain things you would write on the certain boards to kind of keep people out where they're like, you know, like, was there any like kind of trickery?

00:04:43.800 Like verbal word trickery?

00:04:45.680 I mean, we didn't do anything like that, but a lot of the business owners, you know, they put on like minority owned or, you know, we support BLM or lots of stuff got put on those boards.

00:04:55.720 And, yeah, I don't know.

00:04:57.920 I don't know if there was trickery or not.

00:04:59.640 I don't know if people were maybe a little dishonest on that.

00:05:02.440 But, yeah, people were putting stuff on there.

00:05:05.060 Wow.

00:05:05.960 Yeah, because I guess most people think that just businesses go and do that for themselves.

00:05:10.360 But do you get hired by businesses to do it?

00:05:12.760 Yeah.

00:05:13.340 So either by the insurance or if they're in a really high risk area, like their insurance company might call to have the boards put up to try and prevent the loss, you know, because it's obviously, you know, when the buildings get burned and stuff like that, sometimes the losses or the insurance claims are millions of dollars.

00:05:30.440 So for five or ten thousand dollars, you can get all your windows boarded up.

00:05:34.780 That could save you.

00:05:35.820 Yeah, that could really be the difference between your whole business going down.

00:05:39.980 Yeah, absolutely.

00:05:40.800 I mean, there was a there was a liquor store.

00:05:43.560 They they're right in Minneapolis there and they lost like one point five million dollars in inventory.

00:05:49.020 Plus, there was a fire in the building.

00:05:50.600 Oh, yeah.

00:05:51.580 Well, that's the problem.

00:05:52.560 You get a little bit of liquor in you.

00:05:53.900 You want to have somebody wants to have a Doral or, you know.

00:05:56.500 Yeah.

00:05:56.780 Or, you know, roll up a john or something and the next thing you know, the whole place has gone up.

00:06:01.540 Oh, it's crazy.

00:06:02.280 And I mean, even, you know, I had a gun pulled on me when I was cleaning graffiti down there.

00:06:06.600 Uh-uh.

00:06:07.180 Yeah.

00:06:07.680 And why'd they do it?

00:06:09.760 They were just unhappy.

00:06:11.000 I was taking down graffiti.

00:06:12.320 And I mean, you know, whether or not that's out of turn, I don't care if you put more graffiti up.

00:06:16.640 I got hired to take the graffiti down.

00:06:18.120 The second I leave, you can do it again.

00:06:19.960 Right.

00:06:20.620 Right.

00:06:21.000 Yeah.

00:06:21.140 You're just doing your job.

00:06:22.140 Yeah.

00:06:22.380 So, just doing your job is really, I mean, your job is basically, like, your job is basically restoration, trauma, cleanup.

00:06:35.220 How do you, like, give me an example of kind of what that entails, sort of.

00:06:39.900 Let's start.

00:06:40.440 Well, so, like, the name of the industry is restoration.

00:06:43.260 Okay.

00:06:43.400 And so, restoration could be fire, water, mold, trauma.

00:06:49.100 So, it can be anything from a natural disaster to a pipe burst or, you know, the ground thawing outside or suicides, murders, and stuff like that.

00:06:58.660 Basically, if something terrible has happened to your building, where are the guys that call?

00:07:03.320 And do you guys go in there feeling like the Ghostbusters? 0.98

00:07:06.100 Do y'all just feel like a bunch of, like, garbage men? 0.60

00:07:09.800 Is there kind of a vibe that you feel kind of going into certain environments? 0.94

00:07:14.000 No one is ever happy to see us.

00:07:16.040 Okay.

00:07:16.640 You know, because, you know, it's like, and fires are generally the worst.

00:07:20.640 I mean, like, when you do a trauma cleanup, you're not normally seeing anyone that lives there or anything like that because they're typically almost always gone.

00:07:28.960 Okay.

00:07:29.620 But, like, when you're doing a fire cleanup or something, you know, and everyone's personal belongings, everything, every picture, every birth certificate, everything's gone, and you're shoveling it out with snow shovels.

00:07:39.880 You know, it can be tough.

00:07:42.280 Okay.

00:07:42.620 So, stuff like that, environments like that where you're cleaning up a place and there's a lot of personal effects there, it really gets pretty.

00:07:47.720 It probably, you know, it probably squeezes your heart, huh?

00:07:50.360 Used to.

00:07:51.100 I mean, it's hard.

00:07:52.480 You get really desensitized to it.

00:07:55.180 Yeah.

00:07:55.840 Yeah.

00:07:56.000 So, take me, like, into an example.

00:07:59.680 Like, you go to a company, something's happened, you go to a business.

00:08:02.460 Take me into some trauma cleanup.

00:08:04.940 Yeah.

00:08:05.380 Well, so, just to use that one as an example, so, it was middle of the night, it was a manufacturing facility, and there was a lathe.

00:08:12.200 So, a lathe, you know, you make, like, for example, like a baseball bat, so it spins a piece of wood and you're cutting on it.

00:08:17.300 A lathe.

00:08:18.420 Lathe, yep. 1.00

00:08:18.980 Okay, and bring that up, Riley, if you can, on the screen here.

00:08:23.220 Okay, so, something like that.

00:08:24.420 Yep, yep.

00:08:25.000 So, just like that.

00:08:25.920 It's a machinery.

00:08:26.900 Yep, that green one is just about the same one there.

00:08:30.220 Okay.

00:08:30.860 And so, the guy was wearing a glove, and so, he ended up getting caught in that, and so, it pulled his skin off from, like, his elbow all the way off his hand.

00:08:41.660 It's called degloving. 0.58

00:08:43.220 And so, that got caught in there, so it spun around, because, obviously, it was still spinning.

00:08:46.920 So, the thing's just spinning around with the...

00:08:49.600 Yeah, they spin, like, crazy speeds, like, thousands of RPMs.

00:08:53.140 Wow.

00:08:53.740 Red Rover, Red Rover, boy.

00:08:55.420 Yeah, yeah, and...

00:08:56.660 Send Danny right over.

00:08:58.220 So, this thing's still spinning.

00:08:59.920 You guys get called in, the guy's been...

00:09:02.080 D-gloved.

00:09:02.940 D-gloved, and that means...

00:09:04.400 So, the skin just peels off.

00:09:06.020 Like, if you had a glove on, you took it off, except for that's your skin. 0.96

00:09:08.900 Ooh.

00:09:09.880 And so, that was spinning, and obviously, we shut out by the time we got there, but that blood was all over everywhere.

00:09:15.380 So, it was all, you know, the ceiling's 25, 30 feet tall.

00:09:19.160 And it was a big manufacturing facility, so they didn't want to shut it down.

00:09:22.700 So, we had to, you know, hang plastic all around where we were cleaning, and all that stuff had to be scrubbed down and repainted.

00:09:30.260 Okay, so you guys hang plastic around the actual site of whatever's going on.

00:09:34.020 Yeah, if they don't want to shut it down.

00:09:35.720 Dang, they got to keep that money coming in, huh?

00:09:37.660 Yeah, so, I mean, the whole time, it was really crazy.

00:09:39.700 You know, we're cleaning skin out of this machine, and on the other side of the plastic, you can hear people talking.

00:09:46.520 And what type of, what were they making in there overall, you think?

00:09:49.860 You know, honestly, I'm not sure.

00:09:51.560 Okay.

00:09:52.400 Yeah, I'm not positive.

00:09:53.740 Maybe, like, a cabinet shop or something.

00:09:55.680 Yeah.

00:09:56.620 It was a woodworking facility.

00:09:58.760 Okay, wow.

00:10:00.000 And so, you guys get called in, something like that.

00:10:02.320 What do you do with the actual, do you actually take the skin, the hand?

00:10:06.060 Yeah, so anything that's, like, affected, and there's a bunch of different, like, categorizations of, like, materials.

00:10:13.020 So, like, wood that gets impacted really needs to be cut out and replaced, but, like, concrete, you can clean that.

00:10:18.880 So, anything that gets, you know, that we have to cut out and throw it away, you put it in these special bags, and then you put that in a biohazard box,

00:10:26.300 and then a carrier that specially disposes of that takes it away, and typically they're going to go to, like, an incinerator.

00:10:32.040 Okay.

00:10:32.660 Oh, wow.

00:10:33.340 So, that thing, it doesn't get returned to the rightful owner.

00:10:35.460 It gets, they.

00:10:36.960 The skin?

00:10:37.760 Yeah.

00:10:38.080 No.

00:10:38.960 You're not getting that skin back. 1.00

00:10:40.480 Damn. 0.99

00:10:42.360 Have you ever had an employee try to sneak off with something, sneak off with a thumb or something? 0.99

00:10:46.660 Never.

00:10:48.220 A rotting thumb, no.

00:10:49.740 Yeah, or just a middle finger, maybe they're just going to pull it out of the bar or something.

00:10:52.780 No, no, that would be something, though.

00:10:54.820 So, you guys hang up the plastic, and you guys go in there as a team if there's some type of a trauma, like, in a workplace or any place, really.

00:11:01.820 Mm-hmm.

00:11:02.040 And so, how long does something like that take?

00:11:04.380 Like, are you guys, they try to send you in in the middle of the night and get it done fast?

00:11:08.060 Do they?

00:11:08.680 So, it really depends.

00:11:10.220 So, there's certain things like manufacturing facilities and stuff, because, like, a big manufacturing facility, you know,

00:11:15.400 they might be making a million-plus dollars a day, hundreds of thousands of dollars an hour in products.

00:11:20.660 Oh, yeah.

00:11:21.740 Tyco, I'm trying to think of some different ones.

00:11:24.440 Hormel, I'm trying to think of different anything.

00:11:27.980 Mitsubishi, I'm trying to think of any other.

00:11:31.920 I mean, there's tons of them.

00:11:32.820 Oh, yeah, yeah.

00:11:33.700 Yeah.

00:11:33.880 I mean, even a good buddy of mine had a call out to Florida for a machine that broke down, and it was a Kit Kat machine.

00:11:40.300 They made Kit Kats.

00:11:41.260 Yeah.

00:11:41.600 Like, and I saw a little video of it.

00:11:43.320 I mean, just millions of Kit Kats.

00:11:45.040 And you're like, who's eating all these Kit Kats?

00:11:46.800 Yeah.

00:11:47.100 And they're all stressed, because the Kit Kat line is shut down.

00:11:50.500 Like, the world's going to end.

00:11:51.780 We don't have any Kit Kats.

00:11:53.680 Well, squirrels love them, dude.

00:11:54.780 My dad, he used to sometimes go park his car at the park, and he would get, like, he had a buddy that used to get kind of old Kit Kats, and they were, like, a couple years old, kind of.

00:12:06.180 But they, you know, you could still eat them, but the chocolate was turning white a little.

00:12:09.880 You know what I'm talking about?

00:12:10.760 Fermented.

00:12:11.620 I don't know if it, I mean, I don't know if it had become, like, alcoholic or not, but I know it had, it was a little bit decrepit.

00:12:18.620 Bring up old chocolate.

00:12:22.920 It's aged.

00:12:23.720 Yeah, old chocolate aged.

00:12:28.080 Like a nice, fine, aged whiskey.

00:12:29.580 There you go.

00:12:30.500 Click on one of those, Raleigh.

00:12:33.360 Oh, no, that's too old.

00:12:35.360 Yeah, that's molded out.

00:12:36.940 Just give me something that, um, give me something that I should have had at Christmas, you know?

00:12:44.040 Nope.

00:12:47.160 Okay.

00:12:47.800 But I'll say this, is that, uh, so, yeah, anyway, we would get the Kit Kats, we would take them to the park,

00:12:53.300 and the squirrels would come eat them, man.

00:12:55.380 Squirrels love them.

00:12:56.460 And we would, they would see squirrels jumping from just miles away, just in the distance.

00:13:00.020 You could see squirrels just hopping over trying to get them.

00:13:02.600 So squirrels love them.

00:13:04.040 But, um, so anyway, you guys get called in any type of environment.

00:13:07.560 Right.

00:13:07.880 And so that's, like, an example of, like, a business, uh, of, like, a kind of a travesty that happened at a business.

00:13:14.860 Uh, and what, do you have a page drawn yet?

00:13:18.480 How do they?

00:13:19.420 Just phone calls.

00:13:20.800 Just that's it.

00:13:21.240 I am just absolutely trained now.

00:13:22.940 I mean, you can call me at three o'clock in the morning.

00:13:24.900 I'm not even awake yet, and I got the phone to my ear, you know?

00:13:27.240 Wow.

00:13:27.980 And so take me on, so take me on another journey of, like, what, uh, what a trauma restoration man gets.

00:13:33.920 Well, I mean, I would say for the most part, it's people that have been deceased for a long time.

00:13:38.840 Okay.

00:13:39.340 Uh, almost always, it's the post carriers that are calling it in for a wellness check.

00:13:44.000 Yeah, because no one's picked up the mail for a week or a month or whatever it happens to be.

00:13:47.900 Can't get any more mail in the mail slot.

00:13:50.040 And they're calling for the wellness checks.

00:13:52.340 So, I mean, you know, you get a call, and those aren't really pressing, you know?

00:13:56.720 That's not, like, a 3 a.m. call if someone's been dead for a month, you know?

00:14:00.060 Right, that's a voicemail, more.

00:14:01.700 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:14:02.780 And, uh, so, it's kind of wild, you know, when someone dies.

00:14:06.900 First, you, like, blow it up, and, uh, then as you decompose, like, goo starts coming out of everywhere.

00:14:12.980 Ooh.

00:14:13.500 So, it can be real bad where it's, like, you know, they might have died on a bed or a couch or something,

00:14:18.000 and that couch will be soaked with stuff, you know, goo.

00:14:21.780 With human goo, and so that goo is, what all is it?

00:14:24.560 Plasma, feces, blood, everything?

00:14:27.220 And then just, you know, your inside's decomposing on you.

00:14:29.980 Oh.

00:14:31.000 Yeah.

00:14:31.680 And so, you guys roll in.

00:14:33.720 Mm-hmm.

00:14:34.120 Now, are you the first people to roll in, or the police roll in first?

00:14:36.800 Well, so the bodies are always going to be gone, so the police are going to do the wellness check,

00:14:40.440 and then the coroner's going to come to remove the actual body or whatever that they can remove.

00:14:45.520 Typically, they're going to try and remove, like, one large piece.

00:14:48.220 So, sometimes, you know, there's still skin, or depending on how long it's still there.

00:14:52.380 Really?

00:14:52.840 Shoes, maybe?

00:14:54.260 Well, if they weren't wearing them.

00:14:55.700 Right.

00:14:55.940 But, you know, and so, if you died on the second floor, if you've been there for a long time,

00:15:00.180 that stuff will all drip down through the ceiling underneath, and then into the basement, maybe.

00:15:05.000 So, all that flooring has to come out.

00:15:06.680 So, the flooring comes out, your subfloor comes out, if it's affected, like, joists.

00:15:11.860 Sometimes, you have to do some structural removal, all the way down to the concrete, basically.

00:15:17.420 So, and is there, like, legalities where if something dies in a place, if a human dies,

00:15:22.360 you have to do certain things to the building?

00:15:26.020 Yeah.

00:15:26.380 So, there's really stringent, like, processes that you have to do.

00:15:29.960 So, there's specific chemicals that have to be used, that have to meet these certain regulations, or standards.

00:15:36.460 And so, everything has to be removed.

00:15:38.700 And there's a book called the S-500 that is a restoration book.

00:15:42.360 So, that's going to have, like, your processes.

00:15:44.220 Like, if you had a question, you know, you'd be able to, sorry.

00:15:49.900 No worries.

00:15:50.300 Is that a call right now?

00:15:51.360 No.

00:15:52.480 No, no.

00:15:53.060 I'm not taking any calls right now.

00:15:54.620 Oh.

00:15:55.100 But, yeah.

00:15:58.340 So, there's a book of standards.

00:15:59.620 So, there's really strict processes that have to be followed so you can avoid liability.

00:16:05.580 Okay.

00:16:05.760 So, like, you know, on a water loss, if you have bad mold and someone gets sick and you

00:16:10.440 signed off that that building is dry, you can be, you know, either your business or sometimes

00:16:16.700 personally brought up in, like, court cases.

00:16:19.640 So, you have to, everything's documented.

00:16:21.100 Some liability.

00:16:21.980 Yeah.

00:16:22.300 Okay.

00:16:22.480 On a large, like, loss, I'm doing a hotel right now in North Dakota.

00:16:27.320 Um, you know, it's 44 affected rooms and I'm going to submit probably 1,100 pictures.

00:16:33.760 Wow.

00:16:34.420 So, and then processes, moisture readings, all that stuff, you know.

00:16:37.700 Right.

00:16:38.020 Hours and hours and hours of paperwork.

00:16:39.800 So, you got to, yeah, you, so you go in there and do a lot of paperwork, too.

00:16:42.520 It's not just you're out there, um, you know, cleaning up the environment.

00:16:47.320 Yeah.

00:16:47.560 You guys are doing a lot of the backlogging as well.

00:16:50.120 Documentation.

00:16:50.600 Yeah.

00:16:50.780 There's a ton of documentation that goes along with everything.

00:16:53.220 So, take me on a, on a, on a journey.

00:16:55.340 If you got, you got called in, give me a, take me into a story where it was a, a murder

00:17:00.160 or deceased or something like that, you know, a non-living human.

00:17:04.640 Yeah.

00:17:05.020 Yeah.

00:17:05.500 Um, well, you know, uh, I've done a bunch of them over the years, but, uh, probably the

00:17:10.740 worst one I've ever done, uh, was in an apartment building.

00:17:13.500 And, uh, you know, so we get the call, the coroner's released the scene.

00:17:18.020 So, everything's out.

00:17:19.140 And, uh, this fella met the wrong end of a shotgun.

00:17:22.040 Okay.

00:17:22.500 And so, it was a 12-gauge shotgun.

00:17:24.080 So, all those BBs went through multiple walls and through multiple apartments.

00:17:29.660 So, because those are contaminated and carrying everything, so you have to find, like, where

00:17:34.480 all those holes went.

00:17:35.440 So, I mean, when we got there, you know, so first thing, you know, you're going to clean

00:17:38.780 up as, as much of the, let's call it raw material as you can.

00:17:44.160 So, you can avoid, like, bug problems.

00:17:47.040 Okay.

00:17:47.420 So, you got to get up all the, all the living stuff, whatever could have been living or semi-living,

00:17:51.800 the leftovers.

00:17:52.340 As much as you can, yeah.

00:17:53.640 Yeah.

00:17:53.740 So, I mean, you're scraping that floor off, you know, you're using, like, a flat blade shovel

00:17:57.800 and scraping stuff off. 0.99

00:17:59.020 Damn, that day-old bread, baby. 0.99

00:18:00.240 You got to clean it up. 1.00

00:18:01.020 Yeah, yeah.

00:18:01.760 And then, yeah.

00:18:02.900 So, then you're setting up ozone machines, air filtration, you're setting up an environment

00:18:08.560 so, like, if we're in this room, you need plastic over the doors and stuff so that you're

00:18:15.080 trying not to cross-contaminate anything else.

00:18:17.400 Okay.

00:18:17.700 So, you tighten it up the scene, okay?

00:18:20.260 You kind of get that kind of, like, a plastic off the scene.

00:18:24.900 You all use Visqueen?

00:18:26.720 Visqueen?

00:18:27.180 You ever use it?

00:18:27.820 No.

00:18:28.200 Bring up Visqueen, Raleigh.

00:18:30.180 There you go.

00:18:30.600 Oh, sure.

00:18:31.260 Yeah, yeah.

00:18:31.840 You can barely see it because it's actually see-through plastic.

00:18:34.080 Yeah, yeah.

00:18:34.560 Just like that.

00:18:35.620 Poly.

00:18:36.060 You know, we just call it, like, poly and it comes to different thicknesses.

00:18:38.580 Yeah.

00:18:39.020 Yeah, they used to call it Visqueen back in the day, but...

00:18:41.360 Okay.

00:18:42.000 Okay, so you guys will kind of cordone off the scene and then what?

00:18:45.660 So, then you're going to set up, you need to have air filtration, HEPA, air scrubbers.

00:18:50.440 And this guy had taken his life or he'd been shot?

00:18:52.920 No, he had taken his own life.

00:18:54.420 Yeah, and so then you have to go through and find, you know, where did those all stop and did

00:18:59.240 they exit the roof?

00:19:00.180 You know, and we ended up having to do some patching on the roof, too.

00:19:03.820 Wow.

00:19:04.300 So, a guy took his own life and is there still people in the building or no?

00:19:07.340 Mm-hmm.

00:19:07.800 Yeah.

00:19:08.220 It was an apartment building and it was real gnarly.

00:19:11.220 So, then after you've identified everything, you're making sure the roof's not going to

00:19:14.600 leak and stuff because you don't want any secondary damage.

00:19:17.020 Yeah.

00:19:17.360 Um, then, then it's just all about taking everything apart.

00:19:22.260 So, every affected stud needs to be taken out, replaced, all the drywall that's affected

00:19:27.760 is going to, again, be taken out, replaced.

00:19:30.320 Yeah.

00:19:30.580 And so, what, and who's still in the place?

00:19:32.700 Is, is, is, did he have family or?

00:19:34.640 No.

00:19:35.140 So, he was the only one in that apartment, but there was other people in the rest of the

00:19:38.560 apartment building.

00:19:39.240 It's not like they moved everyone out.

00:19:40.900 Right.

00:19:41.340 I see.

00:19:42.580 Yeah.

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00:22:36.160 Okay, so yeah, take me into a scenario where you had to go where there was a, where there

00:22:41.280 was, yeah, take me into one of the, like, kind of the gnarlier scenarios that you had

00:22:47.200 dealing with, like, a human corpse.

00:22:49.760 Yeah, so the, easily, easily, the only one that's ever really bothered me, the one that

00:22:54.520 really kept me up was a guy, unfortunately, took his life in his basement with his family

00:23:00.140 upstairs, and he had two kids, you know, teenage children and his wife were there.

00:23:05.720 Okay.

00:23:06.060 And they didn't leave.

00:23:07.960 They, so the whole time that we were there working, they stayed.

00:23:12.080 So we are carrying stuff.

00:23:14.040 In the room, in the basement?

00:23:15.340 Was it like a Ouija board or something?

00:23:16.840 They were upstairs, yeah.

00:23:18.240 Yeah, and, but, you know, and normally, they would always move out, you know, until everything's

00:23:24.820 completed and put back together.

00:23:26.080 In this case, they did not want to leave.

00:23:28.040 So you rolled up to the place, and who were you with?

00:23:31.260 Is it just you?

00:23:32.200 Do you have a little buddy with you?

00:23:33.360 Do you have a crew?

00:23:33.880 This one was just me.

00:23:34.640 Oh, wow.

00:23:35.200 So I'll generally just go for, like, I'll check it out, and if I need labor, I'll call

00:23:40.280 for it.

00:23:40.760 Okay.

00:23:41.200 But I generally don't ever ask anyone to do these gnarly ones with me. 1.00

00:23:46.600 Damn, you're like damn Satan's minion, baby, out there. 1.00

00:23:49.540 Yeah. 1.00

00:23:50.080 Dang.

00:23:50.560 You know, I'll have people, but, like, I never want, I never like to ask other people to do

00:23:55.140 this kind of stuff, because it can really kind of weigh on you.

00:23:57.040 Okay, so, okay.

00:23:58.660 Right now, I can only fathom that, and we'll get into that a little bit, but, so you get

00:24:02.720 to this one locale, and what's going on?

00:24:04.640 So, like I said, and generally, I'm dealing either with the police or the coroners.

00:24:08.820 Um, this is the only situation where I've, like, met a family member at a, like, a suicide

00:24:16.040 particularly.

00:24:17.380 Um, sometimes if someone's died of natural causes, you know, I'll meet a son or a daughter

00:24:21.040 or a wife or something like that. 0.99

00:24:22.780 Um, but this one, I knock on the door, and this lady answers it, answers the door, and 1.00

00:24:27.980 she was the homeowner. 0.99

00:24:28.900 So, they were still there.

00:24:30.400 Like, he's killed himself yesterday, and they're all still in the house.

00:24:33.640 Um, and so, you know, I'm down working in the basement, and I'm carrying up boxes and

00:24:39.120 bags of, you know, contaminated stuff past them.

00:24:42.800 Wow, so you're just bringing up, like, basically stuff that has, like, human matter on it?

00:24:47.000 Yeah.

00:24:47.600 Wow.

00:24:47.800 Like, you know, oh, it's horrendous.

00:24:50.020 So, it's like, you're looking.

00:24:50.880 And did he, did the man gun himself in the head?

00:24:55.320 Mm-hmm.

00:24:55.540 Ooh.

00:24:56.820 And so, a lot of your head just kind of goes wherever?

00:25:00.060 Yeah.

00:25:00.480 Does your head go in one piece, or does it go in a bunch of pieces?

00:25:02.840 No, and it depends on the type of gun or the caliber, but typically, it's just gonna,

00:25:08.000 you know, if you shot yourself with, like, a hollow point, you'll, like, blow a hole 0.76

00:25:12.220 out of the back of your head. 0.96

00:25:13.160 Oh.

00:25:13.280 But if it's, like, just a normal handgun or something, it's actually a pretty clean hole

00:25:17.400 normally.

00:25:18.020 Oh, wow.

00:25:18.780 But, um, yeah, it's, this was, yeah, so at the end of every day, I had to tell, you know,

00:25:23.940 she's asking me questions, and it's just, like, I, you know, you're looking at her in

00:25:28.140 the eye and saying, it's like, oh, we're gonna be finishing taking your husband out tomorrow,

00:25:32.360 you know, it's crazy.

00:25:34.140 And did they come down and want to do any prayers, or did they want to, like, spend any

00:25:37.760 time praying?

00:25:38.760 Was there, was it, did they like the husband, you know, or did it seem like they had a good

00:25:44.020 connection with the, who knows?

00:25:45.380 I was really trying not to talk to him.

00:25:47.240 Oh, you were?

00:25:47.860 Yeah, it was, that, that really bothered me.

00:25:50.460 Yeah.

00:25:50.780 Oh, I can only fathom, man.

00:25:51.920 I mean, that's a man, yeah, I'm just trying to, yeah, I guess we don't know all the circumstance,

00:25:56.200 but if a man, yeah, took his life, his family's right there, I can only imagine this how, and

00:26:01.280 then, or, I just wonder if they're looking at you like you're helpful, or like, who knows?

00:26:06.920 I have no idea.

00:26:07.840 Yeah, but that, man, I still think about that one.

00:26:10.040 That one was tough.

00:26:12.540 Yeah, and did the kids try to communicate with you or anything?

00:26:15.140 There was no...

00:26:16.140 No, I mean, they were obviously grieving, but I mean, it was, it was wild that they wouldn't

00:26:20.040 go to a hotel or stay with family or something. 0.97

00:26:22.620 Yeah, at least hit a damn Fairfield Inn and Suites or a Days Inn, you know, and I love 0.95

00:26:28.360 Hampton, and actually, but yeah, I can't imagine if that happened that I wouldn't want some 0.71

00:26:33.060 space, or maybe you want to be as close as you, you know, I don't know.

00:26:39.120 I don't know.

00:26:39.740 But that was a unique circumstance.

00:26:41.740 One and only time, and hopefully the last time that ever happened.

00:26:44.280 Because it really made it, it really added, like, another layer to it, another pressure.

00:26:48.740 Yeah, you know, because you, like I said, you get really desensitized to it, and, you

00:26:53.540 know, it's just like, you're just cleaning up a mess, you know, but when they're there,

00:26:56.980 it's like, I'm cleaning up Dad.

00:26:58.440 Right.

00:26:59.040 Yeah.

00:26:59.900 Right, right.

00:27:01.060 Like, or Alan, or whatever they got, yeah.

00:27:02.880 Yeah.

00:27:03.600 Yeah.

00:27:04.360 Harold, or something, yeah.

00:27:05.700 Yeah, it's more, I can't imagine that.

00:27:08.960 Gosh, I'd almost feel bad in a way.

00:27:13.680 Yeah, yeah, it really gave me the heebie-jeebies.

00:27:16.660 And so, on a cleanup like that, where do you go for lunch on a day like that?

00:27:20.360 Like, what is, is there, do you have like a, are there some days you go for different

00:27:23.700 lunches, or, but say if it's a, you know, do you have a typical spot you like to go?

00:27:27.980 I got a real problem with Chipotle.

00:27:29.600 You do?

00:27:30.440 Yeah.

00:27:31.200 Yeah, I feel like I should buy stock in there.

00:27:33.280 Maybe they should give me stock at this point.

00:27:35.120 Oh, you've been there a lot.

00:27:35.880 A lot.

00:27:36.880 Yeah.

00:27:37.200 Yeah.

00:27:37.800 Well, look, I'm just saying, if you know, what goes with cleaning up a deceased, you

00:27:42.440 know, I guess it's Chipotle.

00:27:44.260 Yeah.

00:27:45.120 Yeah.

00:27:45.660 Or a couple of beers, you know.

00:27:47.500 Yeah, that's a good point.

00:27:48.380 Try and get through it, yeah.

00:27:49.080 Oh, yeah.

00:27:49.640 God's Chipotle, baby. 0.62

00:27:51.660 Cervezas.

00:27:54.260 Wow, that's so fascinating.

00:27:55.900 What about like living people?

00:27:57.140 Do you, do you come into like trauma where the people are still alive, or is it all kind

00:28:01.420 of post-life?

00:28:02.240 Uh, well, so trauma probably makes up sub 10% of what I do on a weekly basis.

00:28:08.840 It's not all I do.

00:28:10.000 So.

00:28:10.320 Okay.

00:28:11.120 Restoration as a whole, you meet a lot of strange people.

00:28:14.960 Okay.

00:28:15.140 So trauma is just dealing with the deceased.

00:28:17.620 Yep.

00:28:18.320 Okay, so that is specified, that is trauma cleanup.

00:28:21.180 Mm-hmm.

00:28:21.640 Somebody is deceased.

00:28:22.780 Yeah.

00:28:23.320 And if you're non-deceased, this could be part of restoration.

00:28:26.780 Yep.

00:28:27.220 Okay.

00:28:27.880 Yeah, so every, so restoration covers that, it's a big umbrella of a bunch of different

00:28:32.220 stuff, but, you know, I've done some really gnarly animal hoarders.

00:28:36.040 Oh, yeah?

00:28:36.520 Really, like where the floor or walls are rotting out, because there's so much, you

00:28:40.300 know, animal urine.

00:28:41.260 That bootleg Noah's Ark, huh?

00:28:42.740 Oh, God.

00:28:43.640 I mean, sometimes you run into some-

00:28:44.600 Oh, and they got animal piss in there? 0.97

00:28:45.940 Oh, yeah.

00:28:46.600 Oh, dude, I'll tell you this.

00:28:47.540 So I stayed in my buddy Johnny's house one time, right?

00:28:50.460 I'm over there.

00:28:51.520 I don't know if anybody had ever stayed there, except Johnny and one of his folks.

00:28:56.780 So they put me in the guest bedroom.

00:28:58.660 One of the dogs had been urinating in there for probably seven or eight years, right?

00:29:03.560 And I don't know if anybody had been in there.

00:29:05.080 There was like a sewing machine, and like somebody like quilted like a little thing

00:29:10.780 that said like, be back soon or something.

00:29:12.360 It kind of had a sad vibe in there.

00:29:14.080 But anyway, I go in there.

00:29:15.800 The carpet had like, almost had a yellow dust in the air from all the piss.

00:29:21.260 Yeah, it's called urea crystals.

00:29:22.860 Is it really?

00:29:23.480 Yeah.

00:29:23.820 Pull it up, Raleigh.

00:29:25.500 Yeah.

00:29:26.340 Yeah, those-

00:29:27.960 Urea crystals. 0.99

00:29:29.000 And I know a lot of bitches are buying these these days and wearing them around their neck 1.00

00:29:32.120 over there in Venice Beach. 1.00

00:29:34.000 Look at, there you go.

00:29:34.920 Look at that, boy.

00:29:36.720 Get you a couple grams of that.

00:29:38.280 Sell that on the beach, baby.

00:29:39.580 Yeah.

00:29:40.140 That's that piss cane, baby, right there, son. 0.75

00:29:42.880 Yeah, urine dries in that, oh, and it's terrible.

00:29:45.840 And they attract.

00:29:46.960 So every time you get humidity, they attract, or they kind of rehydrate.

00:29:50.640 So every time it gets humid, you just smell it.

00:29:53.300 Oh, that piss comes back.

00:29:55.280 Yeah.

00:29:55.580 Well, look, because I remember being at my buddy's place, and I would breathe.

00:29:59.640 And sometimes I had to blow my nose, the air was so thick, because I would have to, I would

00:30:04.660 remember being like, oh, my God, something feels like it's like my nose is, and it would

00:30:08.360 be, I would just be blowing animal piss right out of my own nose.

00:30:11.540 Yeah, it's horrendous.

00:30:13.020 Just fascinating to be a part of.

00:30:14.780 Yeah, I got a call, this is a few years ago now, that the HOA required, like, it was

00:30:21.920 like a house, you know, and the HOA had sent her complaints because you could smell

00:30:27.400 it outside.

00:30:28.560 Wow.

00:30:29.640 And I got there, and I mean, she must have had 30, 40 cats there, two dozen dogs.

00:30:34.980 Now, when you roll up, are the cats on the outside, or it's all inside?

00:30:37.580 It's all inside.

00:30:38.980 And unfortunately, I mean, this lady had something going on upstairs. 1.00

00:30:43.320 And the other thing you run into a lot is nudity.

00:30:47.680 Okay.

00:30:48.860 Something's not firing upstairs, you know.

00:30:50.740 Okay, so take me through the cat lady. 0.76

00:30:52.240 Let's walk through that a little bit, so I can just have an experience of what that's

00:30:55.140 like with you.

00:30:55.700 You know, you're walking up to the door.

00:30:57.420 Or do you know in advance it's cats?

00:30:59.780 Do you know it's generally just animalia?

00:31:02.020 Or what do they tell you?

00:31:02.960 We know that there's animal issues.

00:31:04.760 Okay.

00:31:05.140 So not a ton of information.

00:31:07.520 So I call her on the way there, and I'm like, hey, this is Rob.

00:31:11.120 I'm going to be there about half an hour.

00:31:12.560 Oh.

00:31:12.880 And so I get there, and I'm knocking on the door, and she is yelling through the door,

00:31:18.560 who is it?

00:31:19.320 Okay.

00:31:19.780 I'm like, it's Rob.

00:31:20.800 And she's like, I don't know any Rob.

00:31:22.160 And I was like, I just talked to you 30 minutes ago.

00:31:24.820 Oh, yeah.

00:31:25.440 Denial.

00:31:26.040 Yeah.

00:31:26.440 And it's just like, okay.

00:31:27.620 And so she opens the door, no shirt on.

00:31:31.340 And she's like, I just need to go get dressed real quick.

00:31:34.140 Why don't you step in? 0.99

00:31:35.280 So no shirt, tits out. 1.00

00:31:37.360 Just tits out. 1.00

00:31:38.120 Older lady, just a set of swingers on her. 1.00

00:31:40.340 Really?

00:31:40.780 And did you feel like she's flirting?

00:31:42.780 No, no, no, no.

00:31:43.920 I mean, this lady was in her 70s. 1.00

00:31:45.660 She's loose. 0.52

00:31:46.140 So her brain's a little bit loose. 0.91

00:31:47.380 Yeah.

00:31:47.660 Something's not firing on all sailing.

00:31:49.500 Okay.

00:31:50.240 And so I step inside and I can smell it outside.

00:31:53.220 I step inside.

00:31:54.020 I mean, it is so horrendous.

00:31:55.640 I mean, the eyes are watering.

00:31:57.420 There's birds and dogs and cats.

00:31:59.700 I mean, it is crazy.

00:32:01.100 Oh, everything's in there.

00:32:02.040 Everything is in there.

00:32:03.260 Wow.

00:32:03.560 And birds too?

00:32:04.540 Yeah.

00:32:05.360 I mean.

00:32:05.580 What kind of birds was it?

00:32:07.280 Maybe a parrot or.

00:32:09.300 Wow.

00:32:09.760 Parrots and cats.

00:32:10.420 I think a parrot will kill a cat.

00:32:11.960 Will you bring that up too, Riley?

00:32:14.740 I'm sure I could get it.

00:32:16.820 They're mean.

00:32:17.460 There you go.

00:32:19.980 Can a parrot kill a cat?

00:32:21.000 Most parrots won't attack cats for the fun of it, but may attack out of fear or self-defense,

00:32:27.920 even if the cat isn't actually trying to cause harm.

00:32:30.220 Wow.

00:32:30.820 That's wild.

00:32:31.920 So, my bad, man.

00:32:33.200 So you're in there.

00:32:33.920 You got the parrots, the cats.

00:32:34.940 You got a lot of animals.

00:32:35.900 Oh, yeah.

00:32:36.380 And are they just kind of running around?

00:32:37.820 Everywhere.

00:32:38.360 Yeah.

00:32:38.700 I mean, they're just everywhere.

00:32:39.800 So she comes back in a robe and she's like, I got three places I need you to clean.

00:32:43.640 And at the time, I was there for a carpet cleaning call.

00:32:47.900 So I get out there and she walks me in.

00:32:50.160 And as we're walking, I mean, the carpet is wet.

00:32:53.420 Not like damp, wet.

00:32:55.160 Like, it is literally squishing under my feet. 0.98

00:32:58.160 And it's just like, holy shit. 0.98

00:32:59.980 I mean, it is terrible. 1.00

00:33:01.320 And you can smell a piss.

00:33:02.620 Do you have on a face mask or not?

00:33:03.740 I should have.

00:33:04.540 I should have.

00:33:05.220 I made a mistake.

00:33:06.240 But you're going straight in there.

00:33:07.400 You raw dogging it.

00:33:08.220 Just raw dogging it.

00:33:09.040 Yeah. 1.00

00:33:09.320 Damn, boy. 1.00

00:33:10.880 And you're out there huffing sea piss, baby. 1.00

00:33:12.980 You can really go in deep, dog. 0.99

00:33:13.740 Oh, just horrendous.

00:33:14.480 Just horrendous.

00:33:15.600 And so she walks me over the landing of the stairs.

00:33:17.960 And as I'm walking out of the land of the stairs, she is like standing between me and

00:33:22.500 like the exit.

00:33:23.340 And I like walk up and I'm standing on the stairs and the stairs are soft.

00:33:27.540 The floor is rotting.

00:33:29.240 And she's like, oh, I just need to get this cleaned up.

00:33:31.680 And I was just like, I don't think that this is like carpet cleaning territory anymore.

00:33:36.260 She's like, well, how much do you think that's going to cost? 0.80

00:33:38.020 And I was like, well, I'm going to need to get bids.

00:33:40.520 We need to get carpenters and stuff out here. 0.98

00:33:42.360 And she's like, well, how much do you think that's going to be?

00:33:44.480 I was like, maybe $10,000, $11,000 off the top of my head.

00:33:47.340 And she doesn't even blink.

00:33:48.480 She's like, I thought I had a coupon for $179 for three rooms.

00:33:53.500 And I was like, carpet cleaning is not going to help this.

00:33:56.500 Yeah.

00:33:57.460 And so now it's like, I'm starting to panic because this lady is just, yeah, she's like,

00:34:01.040 give me those weird, crazy eyes.

00:34:02.940 Yeah.

00:34:03.100 She's going to trade you UPC-7s. 0.99

00:34:04.900 Oh my God.

00:34:05.320 And the piss is, you know, two and a half feet.

00:34:10.080 It's creeping up the wall.

00:34:10.900 It's soaking into the walls.

00:34:12.240 You can see it.

00:34:13.020 Yeah.

00:34:13.280 And who's doing it?

00:34:14.240 Do you know the cats are doing it?

00:34:15.580 Can it be also human piss?

00:34:17.200 Could have been. 0.91

00:34:18.600 It could have been.

00:34:19.680 It wouldn't be the first time I've had to clean up someone that's incontinent.

00:34:23.920 Unreal.

00:34:24.840 Yeah.

00:34:25.180 Okay.

00:34:25.660 So you got it.

00:34:26.220 So now you guys have to go in and what, get all the animals out?

00:34:28.840 Who do you call then for help?

00:34:30.360 Oh, well, in that case, she, we did not do anything.

00:34:33.400 She just wanted us, she just wanted the carpets cleaned. 1.00

00:34:36.520 Wow.

00:34:36.800 I am, I am, I am positive that she got moved out of that.

00:34:41.900 Yeah.

00:34:42.360 Yeah.

00:34:42.680 I mean, that's, that's a situation where social services gets involved.

00:34:46.700 Yeah.

00:34:47.200 The H-O-A-R-D-E-R, baby. 1.00

00:34:49.780 That's hoarder, huh?

00:34:50.500 Is that a hoarder?

00:34:51.180 Yeah.

00:34:51.480 That's an, that's called an animal hoarder.

00:34:53.200 Oof.

00:34:54.000 Yeah.

00:34:54.360 And so is it a mental, well, is it mentally unwell?

00:34:57.420 Do you see what's caused it?

00:34:58.880 Is it loneliness?

00:34:59.940 Did you, do you get any idea what the root cause of it is?

00:35:02.980 It's, it's some sort of mental disorder.

00:35:05.080 Okay.

00:35:05.480 Yeah.

00:35:06.740 And they want the cats and are they enjoying the cats?

00:35:10.360 Are they petting them or is it more just, they, they're trying to have a little, little

00:35:17.120 jungle?

00:35:18.240 Do you get any idea what they're trying to do?

00:35:20.680 No idea.

00:35:21.780 Yeah.

00:35:22.140 Yeah.

00:35:22.220 Like I said, I mean, it's just, it's compulsive.

00:35:24.640 You just keep bringing them home and they can't care for them.

00:35:27.700 You know, sometimes, you know, you'll find an Anna and hoarder situations, you know, you'll

00:35:32.060 find cats or dogs that have been dead for a long time and they don't even realize they've

00:35:36.340 been dead.

00:35:38.040 You know, you'll be clearing stuff out and all of a sudden you come across a little corpse.

00:35:42.160 Really?

00:35:42.720 Yeah.

00:35:43.220 And they'll, and they'll say, Hey, your cat's dead.

00:35:45.200 And they'll be like, Oh, I threw a ball and it didn't get it or something.

00:35:49.100 Yeah.

00:35:49.540 Well, you know, they don't even have names for all the kids, you know?

00:35:52.340 Oh man.

00:35:53.460 Dude, we had this lady when I was growing up, she used to give us a dime, right? 0.99

00:35:56.220 To go get her cats, right?

00:35:57.420 This older lady. 1.00

00:35:59.100 So she said, yeah, I got like 30 cats, you know, bring them in here to me.

00:36:03.180 I'll give you a dime for each one y'all catch.

00:36:05.300 Well, she only had three cats, but we'd let, we go show her the cat, get that dime and then 0.96

00:36:10.360 let that bitch loose and then go get it again. 1.00

00:36:12.840 And we just kept running these three cats till we had probably a buck 50 and then go get 0.96

00:36:17.240 us a little video.

00:36:18.060 We'd do a video rental or sometime you get a video and a pound of shrimp over there.

00:36:22.080 They had a place called Pat's Video and Shrimp.

00:36:24.400 Bring that up, Riley. 0.97

00:36:25.080 Pat's Video and Shrimp.

00:36:28.460 Pat's Video and Shrimp.

00:36:30.660 Covington, Louisiana.

00:36:36.460 I don't know if you still get a video store going on out there.

00:36:39.260 Yeah.

00:36:39.600 Oh, that's a good point.

00:36:40.340 Yeah.

00:36:40.460 I just thought they might have some old imagery.

00:36:42.100 Yeah.

00:36:42.280 Yeah.

00:36:43.440 Wow, man.

00:36:44.060 So you really are kind of like a, do you get a feeling that you're like a rescuer or that

00:36:52.020 you have, does it start to create any kind of feeling of like a social or human responsibility

00:36:58.600 in you?

00:36:59.360 Or does it just feel like you are, when it's dealing with humans, does it just feel like

00:37:07.300 you are kind of like a, does it feel janitorial?

00:37:11.820 Does it get human at all, some of the feeling of it?

00:37:14.960 No, no, never.

00:37:16.100 And I mean, I joke about this a lot with my buddies, but I just never say no.

00:37:20.000 And it's just like all these jobs have just escalated.

00:37:23.200 Wow.

00:37:23.600 And I just work for myself.

00:37:25.120 Like, I don't have any employees or anything.

00:37:27.060 I work as a subcontractor for other companies, typically as like a project manager.

00:37:31.620 And so I'm using their people.

00:37:33.020 So, I mean, I just never say no.

00:37:35.920 And, you know, so it's just the jobs over time have just gotten worse and worse and worse

00:37:40.040 and worse, you know?

00:37:40.720 Yeah.

00:37:40.900 It's just like, so like when companies don't have anyone that feels comfortable doing like

00:37:45.580 a small restoration company, they don't have anyone that maybe wants to do trauma or something

00:37:50.340 like that.

00:37:51.180 They'll call me.

00:37:52.060 Bobby Cotton, the unfazable Bobby Cotton, dude.

00:37:55.060 They call you Bobby or not?

00:37:57.000 Regularly.

00:37:58.000 Bobby Cotton, I get often.

00:37:59.300 The unfazable Bobby Cotton, man.

00:38:01.900 And they call you in.

00:38:02.840 And so tell me like an example or something.

00:38:05.220 Have you ever found anything unique in a property?

00:38:07.780 You undid some flooring or something, found a treasure, found a skeleton or something?

00:38:12.380 Not anything I wanted to find.

00:38:14.140 Okay.

00:38:15.100 Yeah.

00:38:15.580 I mean, like I said, I found a lot of small animals, you know, found like a significant

00:38:22.000 amount of money that like someone had left before.

00:38:24.300 And hidden.

00:38:25.040 Yeah.

00:38:25.480 Yeah.

00:38:26.000 God, I like that.

00:38:27.280 Yeah.

00:38:27.560 What about some more like human, take me on a call you get, you go to a place and there's

00:38:32.640 a human there and you have to interact with a human and maybe something outside of animalia

00:38:39.440 maybe.

00:38:40.340 Well, I got another hoarder call.

00:38:41.960 Okay.

00:38:42.280 Yeah.

00:38:42.500 So this is on Christmas Eve of this year.

00:38:44.960 And so we get the call early in the morning and it's a sewage call.

00:38:48.200 So that just means there's different categories of water losses.

00:38:51.020 So clean water, gray water, sewage.

00:38:53.360 Okay.

00:38:53.660 Um, so this one was, uh, sewage.

00:38:57.080 And so we get the call and I get out there and I got one other guy coming with me.

00:39:00.620 And so I get out there first and I walk into the desk and it's a condo building.

00:39:06.260 And, uh, they're like, Hey, I just want to let you know that the source unit is up on

00:39:09.300 the like 10th floor or something.

00:39:10.860 He's kind of a character.

00:39:12.100 Okay.

00:39:12.520 It was like, so alarm bells are already going off.

00:39:15.080 And do you keep a piece on you roll?

00:39:16.800 No, never.

00:39:17.680 Yeah.

00:39:18.780 Um, so I, you know, check it out.

00:39:21.240 I look around, you know, a couple of different floors.

00:39:22.840 And so I got to go check to see the source unit now.

00:39:25.580 So I knock on the door and it's an old folks home and I knock on the door and the guy answers 1.00

00:39:30.200 the door.

00:39:30.820 He's in a diaper.

00:39:32.260 Wow.

00:39:32.720 So he's in a t-shirt and a diaper.

00:39:34.600 And it was like, and the smell from in here is just horrendous.

00:39:37.600 And it's a grown man.

00:39:38.540 Definitely.

00:39:39.040 Yep.

00:39:39.440 Yep.

00:39:40.080 Yeah.

00:39:40.300 Man's maybe 75 years old.

00:39:42.220 Oh yeah.

00:39:42.860 And so walk in and I asked him like, where's, where's the, where, where did it start from?

00:39:49.620 He's like, oh, the toilet backed up.

00:39:51.240 Okay.

00:39:51.640 It's like, okay.

00:39:52.340 And a man has a diaper on. 0.90

00:39:53.460 A man has a diaper on. 0.98

00:39:54.400 And does it seem like he's well and he has a diaper on?

00:39:56.720 Does it seem like it's just hot?

00:39:58.200 It's a hot day or does it seem like he's.

00:40:00.100 Oh, we'll get there.

00:40:00.880 Okay.

00:40:01.440 We'll get there.

00:40:02.080 So we walk in and there's piles of newspaper, piles of mail, and the floor is soaked.

00:40:07.880 So again, you're just squishing.

00:40:09.300 And, uh, so walk in and he's gonna, he's like, oh, it's back here.

00:40:14.700 So I'm following him.

00:40:15.340 This man's diaper is full, saggy.

00:40:18.680 Really?

00:40:19.220 Yeah.

00:40:19.600 So he's walking me back there.

00:40:20.860 And you think it's piss or doody? 0.57

00:40:22.240 It is doody.

00:40:23.580 And so he walks and this thing is swinging.

00:40:26.680 Oh, wow.

00:40:27.540 And so we're walking past and we walk back into the back bedroom and there's a-

00:40:31.040 You got that batch on him.

00:40:32.000 A pile of diapers.

00:40:33.720 Okay.

00:40:34.280 Sitting in this water, a pile of them, two feet tall.

00:40:36.900 And, uh, and everything, these newspapers are all sitting there.

00:40:41.480 So now he shows me where it is and this toilet is just, so now I'm looking for a broken toilet

00:40:47.160 because if you've ever backed up a toilet, it doesn't just keep flowing over.

00:40:51.640 That's that batch of dirty diapers. 0.82

00:40:53.540 Oh yeah.

00:40:53.940 Oh.

00:40:54.420 And so this, the original cornhole game, it looks like.

00:40:57.660 The living conditions in here are horrendous.

00:41:00.040 And so I look at the toilet, I'm looking for it to be broken.

00:41:02.560 Okay.

00:41:03.020 It's not broken.

00:41:04.300 And I asked him like, well, so how did all the water happen?

00:41:06.520 And he's like, well, it plugged up at like 10 o'clock last night.

00:41:10.640 And, and I was like, well, how did it flood everything?

00:41:13.760 And he's like, oh, I just kept flushing it.

00:41:15.480 So for like six hours, this dude is just flushing this toilet over and over and over again.

00:41:21.160 And like, it's a, like a video poker or something, huh?

00:41:26.460 He's just sitting there playing it.

00:41:27.520 Yeah.

00:41:27.800 Just over and over again.

00:41:29.020 So.

00:41:29.380 And just winning, just, just winning his own money, just winning his own, just winning 0.99

00:41:33.660 shit back. 0.99

00:41:34.540 And I mean, so. 0.99

00:41:35.440 So it's right there.

00:41:36.300 So it's, so it's a full, it's a toilet and there's duty in it.

00:41:39.780 Oh.

00:41:40.240 Oh.

00:41:40.720 Everywhere.

00:41:41.080 It's covered.

00:41:41.760 I mean, it's just like somebody shotgun blasted duty all over everything.

00:41:45.700 Oh man.

00:41:47.180 So we're going and we, we.

00:41:48.840 Wow. 0.99

00:41:49.260 People shitting. 0.98

00:41:49.960 We are shoveling all this stuff into bags because it's all sitting in all this water. 1.00

00:41:54.020 Everything's garbage.

00:41:54.540 I mean, we're talking years of newspaper, years of mail. 0.98

00:41:57.820 This guy's just got piled up.

00:41:59.380 And it's all, and all the water kind of has a little bit of feces in it.

00:42:02.140 Mm-hmm.

00:42:02.560 Woo.

00:42:03.440 So, so we finish everything out.

00:42:05.160 We cut out all the carpet, everything.

00:42:07.120 And the last thing we've got to do, and my buddy's there now.

00:42:10.000 And the last thing we've got to do is pick up these diapers. 0.95

00:42:13.040 So he's holding a bag and he's like trying to do it.

00:42:15.300 And we're in full Tyvek suits, you know, so we're in plastic suits, respirators, everything.

00:42:19.740 And he's standing and he's like, ah, I can't do it.

00:42:22.400 I'm like, all right, I'll try.

00:42:23.780 And I'm standing there because we were like arguing about who's going to do it.

00:42:26.400 And, you know, so I go down and I reach for the very first diaper and I'm wearing gloves

00:42:30.600 and I, I go to pick it up right in the middle and it's like a burrito.

00:42:33.880 Oh, and this man is now naked from the waist down watching us.

00:42:38.440 So he has lost the diaper and he has told us that he can't wear the pants sometimes because

00:42:44.280 he has to go to the bathroom real fast.

00:42:45.780 No way.

00:42:46.520 So, so would the pants prevent him from doing it, I guess?

00:42:50.020 I don't know.

00:42:50.860 I don't know what is happening.

00:42:51.640 And you could see his wiener or no?

00:42:52.760 Oh yeah.

00:42:53.300 Right in the one-eyed willy just hanging out.

00:42:55.920 And what style of wiener was it?

00:42:57.580 Was it like a...

00:42:58.720 Real old one.

00:42:59.780 Really?

00:43:00.180 Real saggy.

00:43:00.900 Yeah.

00:43:01.180 Bring up a, um...

00:43:03.520 You know what they do have a chart something people use sometimes I've seen?

00:43:07.480 Bring up a mushroom chart if you can, Raleigh.

00:43:10.140 A mushroom chart?

00:43:10.920 If it's a pecker, if it's a pecherini or whatever.

00:43:13.960 Zoom in on that a little if we can get some names off this bad boy.

00:43:18.420 Because, yeah.

00:43:20.380 Oh, this is a poisonous mushroom chart.

00:43:22.500 It was, in fact, a poisonous mushroom.

00:43:24.860 That's a good point, huh?

00:43:27.180 Man, that's not really one.

00:43:28.200 Go back again, Raleigh.

00:43:29.200 Sorry, that's too poisonous, I think.

00:43:31.740 Let's just look at that.

00:43:32.580 Let's look at it one more.

00:43:33.520 Hey, go down a little.

00:43:35.920 I wish they had something that had some names on it.

00:43:40.040 Okay, go up.

00:43:44.540 Maybe go over to the left.

00:43:48.900 Move something so I can see something.

00:43:50.480 Yeah, just move somewhere on there.

00:43:54.700 Are we to the left or not?

00:43:57.060 Okay.

00:43:57.380 Yeah, hit on that one then.

00:43:58.920 Let's see what we got.

00:43:59.600 Oh, that looks like, those look like realistic ones.

00:44:05.520 Yeah, let me see on that.

00:44:08.820 Can you make that one big?

00:44:13.340 Zoom in on it.

00:44:14.400 There we go.

00:44:14.980 Zoom in more.

00:44:19.620 Let's see if we can see some of the names on there.

00:44:21.880 That shaggy mane right there, that fly agari.

00:44:28.520 What they got?

00:44:29.280 That honey cup?

00:44:30.160 What are we looking at here, you think?

00:44:34.140 Rob, if you had to look at one.

00:44:35.500 Oh, if you go over to the left there.

00:44:37.140 Go to the left?

00:44:37.740 Uh, like, like something, uh, like that.

00:44:41.640 Go.

00:44:42.880 Porcini. 1.00

00:44:43.600 Oh, damn, okay. 1.00

00:44:45.060 Yeah, there you go. 1.00

00:44:46.280 Damn, he had that beat, that ballpark Frank on him, huh? 1.00

00:44:49.120 Oh, yeah. 1.00

00:44:49.760 Okay, so, okay.

00:44:50.860 Yeah, so.

00:44:51.620 This guy's just now completely naked. 0.95

00:44:53.400 From the waist down, he is Donald Ducking it. 0.83

00:44:55.240 Okay, and do you have, do you feel the responsibility to stay in there?

00:44:58.840 Can you leave?

00:44:59.540 Do you feel like the guy is, like, going to attack or anything like that?

00:45:03.820 Nothing like that.

00:45:04.480 I feel confident in my ability to fend off a 75-year-old man.

00:45:09.560 Okay.

00:45:11.060 So, I pick up, I go to pick up the very first diapers.

00:45:13.880 Now, there's probably 75 of these things we've got to pick up.

00:45:16.160 And they're all sopping wet.

00:45:17.720 And because it's sopping wet, it has lost its structural integrity.

00:45:20.860 So, I go to pick it up, and my fingers just sink right into it.

00:45:23.400 And it is oozing out.

00:45:24.400 And I just, I've got a strong stomach after doing this for a long time.

00:45:28.480 And it, I'm losing my lunch.

00:45:30.460 So, I rip off my mask, and I just, like, take the one step over to the toilet. 0.99

00:45:36.500 And I just open this toilet, and it's just covered in shit. 0.99

00:45:38.820 We didn't clean the toilet first. 0.98

00:45:40.120 And I am projectile vomiting in this toilet.

00:45:42.740 And I look over to the guy, the guy I'm working with is standing there.

00:45:46.880 And he's like, oh.

00:45:48.120 And he tries to get his mask off, and he pukes straight into the mask.

00:45:51.300 And he runs over to the other bathroom.

00:45:53.080 So, we're both just vomiting.

00:45:54.800 Puking straight into your mask?

00:45:55.900 That's like a frat party on Mars, dude. 0.93

00:45:57.540 So, he just puked straight into his mask?

00:45:59.180 Yeah.

00:45:59.660 Oh, it's terrible.

00:46:01.220 And you puked right into the toilet that was already pretty full?

00:46:03.460 I'm trying not to touch it.

00:46:04.720 Oh, it's horrible.

00:46:06.240 And so, then I look up, and I'm on my hands and knees thrown up in this toilet.

00:46:09.980 And I look over the door again, and this dude is standing in the doorway.

00:46:13.300 So, I'm on my hands and knees.

00:46:14.500 I am right looking this dude's willy right in the eye.

00:46:17.340 And he started yurking off?

00:46:18.640 No, no, no.

00:46:20.360 He was just standing there watching.

00:46:21.320 Oh, he started yurking off.

00:46:22.440 No, no. 1.00

00:46:23.000 But it's like, he's the Ryan Sandberg of creepy shit if he started doing that. 1.00

00:46:26.840 It's like unfazed. 1.00

00:46:27.860 He's hitting for the cycle then, baby.

00:46:29.420 Yeah, this is just like a normal Tuesday afternoon for this guy.

00:46:33.000 Wow.

00:46:33.320 Just watching.

00:46:34.700 And do you think low-key, he had people come all the time and created this kind of scenario?

00:46:39.580 I have no idea.

00:46:40.620 I mean, that's one of the worst ones I've ever done.

00:46:43.760 And so, how does that scenario get from right there to actual some sort of solution?

00:46:47.420 Well, I mean, so, everything has to be taken out.

00:46:50.400 So, like, all the flooring, all the carpet, all that concrete needs to get cleaned.

00:46:55.940 And then, you know, you just rebuild it.

00:46:58.020 So, all that drywall that gets cut out, you know, you just got to replace it, repaint it, new carpeting.

00:47:03.380 So, at some point, you guys left that premises and it was nice again.

00:47:06.220 Mm-hmm.

00:47:06.460 And you put the man back in there?

00:47:08.400 Yeah.

00:47:09.300 Wow.

00:47:09.940 Yep.

00:47:12.020 Man.

00:47:13.060 That blows my mind.

00:47:14.960 Yeah, that was terrible.

00:47:16.740 And how much are you wearing, like, are you, what kind of suit are you wearing?

00:47:21.720 Are you, like, an astronaut?

00:47:23.100 Yeah.

00:47:23.220 Are you, like, a...

00:47:23.980 Well, so, like, the ones that you pump air into, so, like, if you're dealing with something, like, really hazardous, it's called a positive air suit.

00:47:30.700 Okay.

00:47:30.980 Um, you know, if you're doing, like, somebody dropped a vial or something of some dangerous disease, I mean, I haven't done that before, but, um, we're wearing what's called a Tyvek suit.

00:47:43.120 So, it's got boots, it's just one continuous suit with a hood on it, and then a respirator, and a set of rubber gloves.

00:47:50.280 Wow.

00:47:50.980 Almost like a Walter White wears, kind of?

00:47:52.760 Yeah, just like that.

00:47:53.620 That is a Tyvek suit.

00:47:55.020 Dang.

00:47:55.340 That's what those are.

00:47:56.140 So, do meth heads ever roll up to you while you're going in and out of the building trying to holler it?

00:48:01.220 Like, is there ever that kind of vibe where people think you're making drugs?

00:48:03.600 No, no, nothing like that, but, you know, it tends to attract attention.

00:48:08.280 Yeah.

00:48:08.940 You know, you're carrying boxes out or bags out in a full Tyvek suit.

00:48:12.240 People want to know what you're doing.

00:48:13.500 Yeah.

00:48:13.960 Yeah, I bet.

00:48:14.480 I'm sure you get a lot of onlookers or people that are stopping, you know, you're wanting a curious folk.

00:48:19.080 Oh, yeah, and you never tell them anything.

00:48:21.080 Really?

00:48:21.400 Yeah, because you don't, like, the property owner doesn't want people to know that someone's died or that there's been a loss.

00:48:27.300 Or even some customers, like big customers, they've got, like, stealth protocols.

00:48:33.060 They don't want any company vehicles parked outside.

00:48:35.720 They don't want you to wear anything that says a logo on it or anything.

00:48:39.400 They don't want people to know that something's happened.

00:48:41.260 Yeah, because I guess people don't want to mess up their resale value or get a lot, like, maybe somebody, or if it's a product, if they're making, you know, honey-baked hams or something and somebody loses a limb, they don't want people saying, oh, they got limbs in the ham or whatever, you know, like, you know, people.

00:48:59.140 Don't anyone claim that there's a fingernail in their ham, you know?

00:49:01.820 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:49:02.920 They don't want people, yeah, they don't want people kind of, I guess, just ruining their business, you know, that they work so hard for.

00:49:09.140 Wow.

00:49:10.720 Hair loss scares people sometimes.

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00:52:14.280 So, are there jobs that you won't do?

00:52:18.320 I know you said you'll do anything.

00:52:19.560 Has there been a job that you said, you know what?

00:52:22.520 There's been things I've regretted taking.

00:52:24.680 Okay.

00:52:25.180 Yeah.

00:52:25.980 You know, when you're wading through, you know, four feet of sewage and like chest waders.

00:52:30.540 Yeah, there's been horrendous ones.

00:52:33.280 And when you're doing that, do you feel like God is with you or you feel like you strayed from the pack?

00:52:37.620 Do you feel any human response, like a personal, like, okay, maybe I'm making some choices that are kind of wild.

00:52:43.180 Do you think, like, that you're kind of like the Bear Grylls of, like, you know, duty and death?

00:52:54.060 Well, I feel like I should have finished high school.

00:52:57.860 Yeah.

00:52:58.720 Did you finish?

00:52:59.640 No.

00:53:00.700 No, never did.

00:53:01.680 I've been joking about getting my GED for years, but, you know, I've got my life together real well.

00:53:07.000 And I always joke that, you know, people with GEDs, you know, they always used to say that, you know,

00:53:11.660 if you only have a high school diploma or a GED, you'll make a million dollars less than if you went to college.

00:53:16.020 And I was like, well, I don't want to do that then.

00:53:17.780 Yeah.

00:53:18.160 You know, I don't want to.

00:53:18.900 Oh, yeah, you don't want to go.

00:53:19.780 Why go get that if I'm going to guarantee make a million less?

00:53:22.440 Yeah, exactly.

00:53:23.120 Just not have it.

00:53:23.820 Never hear anything about people that don't finish high school.

00:53:26.120 Dude, well, that's freaking interesting, man, because you really have kind of, it seems like, carved out your own space.

00:53:30.880 Yeah, take me on a little bit of a journey of, like, what are some of the calls that you, like, you wish you hadn't done?

00:53:35.920 Is there any other one?

00:53:37.120 Oh, there was.

00:53:37.620 Where are you walking?

00:53:38.880 Sorry.

00:53:39.340 Go ahead.

00:53:39.980 Well, I mean, the one I was just telling you about, there was a pump station.

00:53:44.840 So, where I live at, there's a river, the Minnesota River, and they pump sewage to a facility on the other side of the river.

00:53:52.080 Okay.

00:53:52.360 So, there's a gigantic pipe that, for whatever reason, got plugged up.

00:53:55.460 And so, this pump is running, and there is one cul-de-sac before it goes across the river.

00:54:01.040 So, there's only, like, six, seven houses on it that's on the other side of the pump.

00:54:04.980 So, everyone else is on, you know, this side of the pump, then the pump passes across, and there's one more spot where it goes in.

00:54:11.660 Okay.

00:54:12.000 So, it plugged somewhere under the river.

00:54:13.560 So, this pump, a gigantic pump, is pumping, and because it got blocked up, it ended up forcing the sewage into those houses.

00:54:21.000 So, when I talked to the guy that lived there, he said they were sitting around in the house, and then all of a sudden, there was, like, a noise that came from, like, the sink.

00:54:28.340 And it was, like, shooting up, like, a fountain out of everywhere, out of the toilets, out of the sinks, out of everywhere.

00:54:34.860 Of dirty water.

00:54:35.740 Yeah.

00:54:36.240 Of sewage.

00:54:36.820 Yeah.

00:54:37.040 Oh.

00:54:37.480 And it ended up-

00:54:38.760 Like, those chocolate things they have, some of them at a wedding?

00:54:41.060 Yeah.

00:54:41.560 Oh.

00:54:42.200 Yeah.

00:54:42.540 Chocolate fountain of goodness.

00:54:44.320 And so, it was, like, shooting up and hitting the ceilings, and, like, spraying out.

00:54:50.560 And it ended up filling up this guy's basement.

00:54:53.300 Oh.

00:54:54.120 So, we got big, you know, pumper trucks, and so they're taking it away.

00:54:58.860 And so, I'm in chest waders holding this hose, like, sucking stuff up, and it keeps getting plugged from stuff in there.

00:55:05.160 So, I'm in a Tyvek suit in chest waders.

00:55:08.280 So, the hose keeps getting-

00:55:09.440 Yeah, so, like, I'm down there, like, holding it, because if you just let it go, it'll get stuck to stuff.

00:55:14.700 And, I mean, oh, God, it was terrible.

00:55:17.340 And, yeah, so I'm wading through sewage, like, six feet of sewage.

00:55:23.240 Yeah, it was pretty awful.

00:55:25.400 And do you have any other little henchmen that roll with you, kind of?

00:55:28.060 Or you said it's kind of you roll in and then work with, like, do you then, like, subcontract other guys to help you?

00:55:33.360 How does that kind of go?

00:55:34.120 Yeah, so, like I said, I generally, I never work under my own contract.

00:55:39.460 So, it's like, if something happened here, and I showed up, and you called whatever restoration company, you'd never know that I worked for a different company.

00:55:46.440 Oh.

00:55:47.140 Or that I'm self-employed, because I just typically manage those projects.

00:55:51.420 Okay.

00:55:51.680 But I normally show up on the data loss and stabilize the situation, and then there's a lot of cleanup that has to happen, demo, drying, whatever that needs to be.

00:56:00.560 So, I'll typically use either their labor or their subcontract labor.

00:56:05.660 So, I don't typically ever hire anyone personally.

00:56:08.220 I'm using their resources.

00:56:09.640 Do you notice, when it comes to more of the people that have some real issues, right, is it more men or women?

00:56:16.540 Do you notice, like, do you have any clue where the mental unwellness comes from?

00:56:20.320 Do you start to get any grasp on what could have happened to some of these folks?

00:56:24.880 Yeah, I really don't know if it's, like, a trauma thing, or if it's, you know, just something's never quite been right upstairs or something.

00:56:34.880 I really don't know.

00:56:36.080 But the common thing is, it seems like people, like, they just can't take care of themselves.

00:56:46.020 And when they don't have, like, the resources or the family to help them, everything just spirals out of control.

00:56:51.500 So, and, I mean, just the living situations that people are in, I mean, we really need better mental health something around here.

00:57:00.840 Yeah, we need, I mean, I need, everybody's, we're all trying to get it.

00:57:05.760 What about, take me on another journey, something like, with some of these hoarders.

00:57:09.580 What are some other things that you see people hoarding?

00:57:11.760 Because you had the man with the duty diapers, and what are some other things that people keep that you notice?

00:57:18.860 It tends to be, like, dated stuff.

00:57:21.820 So, I mean, a lot of times it's, like, just knickknacks or something like that.

00:57:26.260 It's, like, they go to the garage sale and buy the whole garage sale, it feels like.

00:57:30.000 Otherwise, it's, like I said, dated stuff.

00:57:32.360 So, newspapers are really big.

00:57:34.040 Mail is huge.

00:57:35.260 And, I mean, it's, like, yeah, sometimes, like, rooms full of newspapers, you know, for these older folks.

00:57:40.500 And you'll find newspapers from the 80s.

00:57:42.560 Wow.

00:57:43.320 Is it pretty cool, some of them?

00:57:44.820 Yeah, I've definitely flipped through some of those newspapers.

00:57:47.100 It's been kind of neat.

00:57:48.000 And what about any pornography?

00:57:49.900 You notice anybody hoarding that kind of stuff, or not really?

00:57:52.400 Yeah, I mean, you do find weird stuff.

00:57:56.600 You know, I've definitely found plenty of, like, Playboys and stuff like that. 0.94

00:58:00.420 Another thing I've noticed is men hoard sex toys. 0.93

00:58:04.000 Really? 0.76

00:58:04.500 Yeah, I've definitely run into that a couple of times.

00:58:06.480 I mean, we're talking 200 dildos or something.

00:58:09.280 Wow, really?

00:58:09.980 And is it gay men or straight men?

00:58:11.640 Do you get any idea if it's one or the other?

00:58:13.720 I don't know.

00:58:14.780 Yeah, I'm not sure.

00:58:15.460 But something phallic, they want to have that sort of deal?

00:58:19.460 Yeah, yeah.

00:58:19.480 That's a weird one. 0.99

00:58:20.720 Sex dolls sometimes. 0.99

00:58:22.160 Sex dolls as well? 0.99

00:58:23.240 Yeah, yeah. 0.99

00:58:23.880 Like, the big ones.

00:58:24.960 Like, I forget what they're called.

00:58:26.760 And what do you mean?

00:58:27.320 Like, BBW?

00:58:28.200 Like, kind of thicker ones?

00:58:29.140 Are you talking about, like, it's a...

00:58:30.500 No, it's like a full-sized person.

00:58:32.240 Okay.

00:58:32.440 They're like a real doll or something like that.

00:58:34.900 Oh, I see what you're saying.

00:58:36.500 And what are they made of?

00:58:37.560 They're probably made out of... 0.69

00:58:39.460 It feels like skin.

00:58:41.880 Oh, it does?

00:58:42.660 Mm-hmm. 1.00

00:58:42.980 Damn. 1.00

00:58:43.460 And so you've been in a place where guys had a couple sex dolls in there? 1.00

00:58:46.200 Mm-hmm. 1.00

00:58:46.580 Damn. 0.99

00:58:47.460 Another weird thing is, when that movie came out, Fifty Shades of Grey, a ton of people 0.99

00:58:54.140 started getting, like, red rooms.

00:58:56.660 And it's like a sex dungeon-y thing. 0.88

00:58:58.700 Mm-hmm. 0.58

00:58:58.920 And a lot of people kind of got off on, like, showing you that.

00:59:02.620 And it's like, oh, sorry, I forgot to shut this door.

00:59:05.540 Oh, you mean if you go to a place?

00:59:07.240 Yeah.

00:59:07.640 People will have that just in their house?

00:59:09.660 Yeah, they'll, like, leave it open on purpose.

00:59:12.660 Like, they get excited from you seeing that or, like, stumbling into it.

00:59:16.400 Have you had a lot of, like, is there ever been in a place where somebody's trying to

00:59:20.500 get you in there just to attract you or something or do sexual or something like that?

00:59:24.720 No.

00:59:25.840 Like I said, I do some carpet cleaning, too.

00:59:27.700 I used to be really weird, so I'd clean a lot of bars.

00:59:30.720 You'd show up at bar clothes.

00:59:32.640 And I, oh, my God.

00:59:34.100 People would ask me, oh, what are you, can I help you?

00:59:36.940 Oh, we're closed.

00:59:37.440 Oh, I'm here to clean the carpets.

00:59:39.080 I must have had 200 women say, oh, I hope you're here to clean my carpets. 1.00

00:59:44.160 Really?

00:59:44.540 Oh, yeah.

00:59:44.920 It's a terrible beating joke. 0.99

00:59:46.200 So you think you could have probably had sex with them, though, or at least tried to 0.99

00:59:49.560 engage if they wanted? 0.99

00:59:50.440 Probably could have engaged on that, yeah.

00:59:52.340 But, yeah, that was just a weird thing.

00:59:53.940 It happened all the time.

00:59:55.040 Like, I'm here to work.

00:59:56.240 Yeah.

00:59:56.380 And it's like, I'm sure there's plenty of men here at this bar for you to talk to.

00:59:59.500 But, like, I'm this new person coming in at bar clothes time.

01:00:03.240 I don't know.

01:00:03.300 Oh, I could see that.

01:00:04.000 The worker comes in.

01:00:05.220 I'm here to clean the carpets.

01:00:06.400 It's also such like a, you know, it's almost a pickup line that a guy at the bar would be

01:00:11.160 using.

01:00:11.480 Yeah, yeah.

01:00:12.120 And it was just, it was so bizarre.

01:00:14.600 I don't know what that was about either.

01:00:16.780 And what about, like, urine?

01:00:18.500 Do people keep urine as well?

01:00:20.220 I know you've had a lot of the...

01:00:21.900 Yeah, people keep jars of urine.

01:00:23.820 That's not...

01:00:24.900 That's happened more than once where I've run into somebody who's got, like, shelves and

01:00:29.260 jars of urine.

01:00:30.460 Yeah.

01:00:30.880 What is that?

01:00:32.440 I don't...

01:00:32.920 People just have, like, a fixation with, like, bodily fluids.

01:00:36.340 Yeah.

01:00:36.680 I wonder if it's they don't want to let part of themselves go or they...

01:00:40.960 Because it's fascinating because a lot of college people do it, too.

01:00:43.500 A lot of dudes will pee in a jug or something. 1.00

01:00:45.440 They don't want to take it to the...

01:00:46.480 Because it's laziness.

01:00:47.480 Yeah, yeah.

01:00:48.180 I think, anyway.

01:00:50.380 But, yeah, I always wonder why do people keep so much piss by them, some folks.

01:00:54.660 Yeah.

01:00:55.280 I mean, and it'll just be, like, jars and jars and jars.

01:00:58.140 Small jars?

01:00:58.980 Like a baby food jar as well?

01:01:00.380 Like a mason jar.

01:01:00.820 Oh, okay.

01:01:01.340 Mason jar, really?

01:01:02.440 Yeah. 0.93

01:01:02.880 Just right off a God's still, baby, that frickin' kidney. 1.00

01:01:06.740 I mean, that's happened at least three times. 1.00

01:01:08.740 Damn. 1.00

01:01:09.180 You run across some good piss out there. 1.00

01:01:10.780 Oh, yeah.

01:01:12.460 It is an experience.

01:01:14.160 Oh, I bet, man.

01:01:15.080 It's crazy enough to even see somebody peeing in the bathroom really close or, you know,

01:01:19.580 but to see them standing there with a couple jars of their own piss, I feel like

01:01:23.500 seems...

01:01:26.060 You know, we've really lost that experience since we're getting rid of all those troughs

01:01:29.320 at, like, the stadiums.

01:01:30.700 Oh, we are?

01:01:31.420 Yeah, they're not anywhere anymore.

01:01:33.340 Oh, that team pissing?

01:01:34.360 Yeah, yeah, where you really experience another man pissing right next to you.

01:01:37.780 Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right there, yeah.

01:01:38.820 The craziest part is when his arm is touching your arm, you can kind of feel the vibration 0.99

01:01:42.540 if he's really got a fucking... 0.93

01:01:44.180 You know, if he's really doing work. 0.99

01:01:45.060 You're really connecting with strangers.

01:01:46.400 Yeah, yeah, you can really feel, like, how each other's kind of flowing.

01:01:48.980 It's almost like a little go-kart race, kind of.

01:01:50.880 I feel like we're losing our community based on that, you know?

01:01:53.500 Yeah, I think so, too.

01:01:55.180 Everybody wants to piss in their own separate space.

01:01:57.600 In the future, they're just going to give you a jar when you walk into a Jets game,

01:02:01.000 and you're going to have to, you know, keep it to yourself, basically.

01:02:04.180 This is a piss jar. 0.68

01:02:04.700 Yeah, take me down another road there.

01:02:06.240 Take me down...

01:02:07.060 Yeah, so I was in North Dakota for another job on Saturday, so I'm sleeping in this,

01:02:11.260 you know, motel.

01:02:13.060 And so I wake up, and I'm sleeping with another guy in the room, and he's like,

01:02:17.600 it's wet.

01:02:18.520 And I was like, what do you mean it's wet?

01:02:19.600 And he's like, the floor's wet.

01:02:21.660 And I swung my feet off the bed, and I put my feet down into puddles.

01:02:25.960 And I was like, you've got to be kidding me.

01:02:27.560 Like it's chasing us.

01:02:28.640 Yeah, and I was like, did I fall asleep on a job site?

01:02:30.720 I'm having a nightmare right now, you know?

01:02:32.240 And so I walk out in the hallway, and there's an inch of water in this entire floor.

01:02:35.620 And I was like, you've got to be kidding me, right?

01:02:37.800 And so I jokingly text one of the contractors I work for.

01:02:40.740 I was like, hey, I found you a job.

01:02:42.360 And he's like, what's going on?

01:02:43.340 And I was like, oh, you know, I fell asleep at the motel, and it's flooded, you know?

01:02:47.760 And so I'm just kind of joking with him about it.

01:02:50.720 Like someone local will take care of this, you know?

01:02:52.780 And so me and this other guy hop out in the truck, and we're going to go out to breakfast,

01:02:57.740 you know?

01:02:58.640 And so as we're pulling out, I see a restoration company pulling in.

01:03:02.360 So I like hop out of the truck.

01:03:03.700 I'm like, I'm going to go talk to that guy real quick.

01:03:06.320 And so I go, and I talk to this guy, and I'm not going to say the company name, but I was

01:03:09.660 like, oh, I'm in town with this restoration company.

01:03:11.560 And he's like, you're kidding.

01:03:12.740 I was like, no.

01:03:13.700 And he's like, will you walk through this job with me?

01:03:15.720 I was like, yeah, sure.

01:03:16.840 And so we go, and we walk through the job.

01:03:18.420 And the guy's like, oh, I just, I don't think I've got the resources to do this right now.

01:03:21.860 It's all flooding in Grand Forks right now.

01:03:24.280 And he's like, is this something you think you can do?

01:03:26.780 And I was like, really?

01:03:28.200 And he was like, yeah.

01:03:29.660 I was like, OK.

01:03:30.520 So I call that contractor back that I was, I'm like, hey, we're going to do this job up

01:03:35.780 here.

01:03:36.180 And it's going to be a six-figure job.

01:03:37.780 Wow.

01:03:38.100 And he's like, and I'm like, this is why I'm your favorite subcontractor.

01:03:41.100 I bring my own work.

01:03:42.760 And so, but we had to get equipment all shipped up from Iowa and generators all up there.

01:03:47.300 Oh, yeah.

01:03:48.320 And, you know, my guy at Sunbelt Rentals really pulled through.

01:03:52.420 Yeah.

01:03:52.740 That's a rental company?

01:03:53.640 Mm-hmm.

01:03:53.940 And what kind of stuff do they rent for folks?

01:03:55.720 Everything.

01:03:56.280 You can rent a lawnmower from them, or you can rent a generator big enough to power a skyscraper.

01:04:00.620 I mean, you can, they rent everything.

01:04:02.540 Forklifts, bobcats, whatever.

01:04:04.140 Sunbelt Rentals is the company.

01:04:05.580 Yeah.

01:04:05.940 Shout out to Rick.

01:04:07.020 What's up, Rick? 1.00

01:04:07.700 Like, damn, baby, damn. 1.00

01:04:09.360 Rick is usually somebody that's, Rick can go either way. 1.00

01:04:13.180 I've met some real dicey Ricks, and I've met some real quality Ricks.

01:04:16.660 Yeah, that's where I'm going back after this, though.

01:04:18.680 Really?

01:04:19.040 Oh, you're going back to North Dakota?

01:04:20.860 I got to finish that job up, and then I'm down to Phoenix for a job.

01:04:24.000 And so what's, is it hard to keep a personal life?

01:04:26.320 Do you have a wife or children?

01:04:27.580 No, I got two roommates to take care of my house. 0.99

01:04:30.000 Wow.

01:04:30.800 Yeah.

01:04:31.400 So do you, do you feel like you could stay in restoration forever?

01:04:35.120 Does it wear on you as a human after a while, or at a certain point, it's just kind of?

01:04:39.520 Yeah, I mean, I definitely can't do this forever.

01:04:42.100 I mean, the hours I work sometimes, I mean, it's not uncommon to throw in 100 hours in a week.

01:04:48.500 So, I mean, I've got to, like, have a retirement strategy.

01:04:51.380 I'm putting money together to buy real estate right now.

01:04:53.960 Yeah.

01:04:54.840 That's kind of my exit strategy, to start buying apartment buildings, and then once

01:04:57.980 I've got enough income from that, I'll just manage those.

01:05:00.340 Wow.

01:05:01.180 And I guess you get so much recon and research because you're in and out of them all the

01:05:05.060 time.

01:05:05.320 I know what to do, yeah.

01:05:06.760 You know, how not to get screwed on insurance.

01:05:09.460 Has it been hard to date with that type of a lifestyle, or do you just kind of, I mean,

01:05:14.540 has it been hard to have a serious relationship?

01:05:15.980 Yeah, yeah, it's definitely hard.

01:05:17.540 You know, I was like, I don't know, I'm on those apps a little bit, and, you know, I've met

01:05:22.140 some girls, and then, you know, it ends up not working out. 1.00

01:05:24.560 You know, I'm gone a lot.

01:05:25.440 I'm working a lot, you know, so.

01:05:27.840 You'd think some women would like that kind of a man that's, you know, he's here and then

01:05:32.680 he's there, you know?

01:05:33.580 Yeah, yeah.

01:05:34.860 And, I mean, the money's great in this industry, but, yeah, there's no personal life.

01:05:38.680 So, it's like, we can go on vacation and really ball out of control, but it's like,

01:05:42.300 I'm not going to be home every weekend or at the end of the night every night, you know?

01:05:45.960 Well, shoot, if some ladies watch this, man, we'll have to have them chime in. 1.00

01:05:49.180 If you ladies want to chat with Rob Cotton, and you want them to come over and restore 0.95

01:05:55.940 something, you know?

01:05:57.340 Clean your carpets.

01:05:58.200 There you go.

01:05:59.900 Yeah, you could definitely do that, dude.

01:06:02.620 Yeah, a question I'm thinking of is, do you think that you could hide a body?

01:06:08.080 Do you learn anything from this type of stuff?

01:06:10.040 Do you think?

01:06:10.780 I am positive that I could make a body disappear.

01:06:13.780 Wow.

01:06:14.800 Yeah.

01:06:16.380 Yeah, it's something that's doable.

01:06:18.720 Yeah?

01:06:19.380 Yeah.

01:06:19.860 And what gives you that knowledge?

01:06:22.320 Just, like, doing it, like, how you clean up a body.

01:06:25.060 Like, I mean, you can just...

01:06:26.940 Yeah, I mean, you...

01:06:28.940 Yeah, I mean, it's just, like, doing it, you know?

01:06:31.760 It's like, if you can clean blood and guts off of walls or a floor, you can just clean

01:06:37.320 them the same way.

01:06:38.860 If you actually took someone's life.

01:06:40.860 Yeah.

01:06:41.200 Yeah.

01:06:41.360 I mean, not that I ever would, obviously.

01:06:42.780 But I think that the actual, like, the actual, like, logistics of making a body disappear,

01:06:50.360 I think, is pretty easy and pretty practical.

01:06:52.140 But, uh, obviously, it's the making someone disappear.

01:06:56.440 Yeah.

01:06:57.000 It's the difficult part.

01:06:58.260 Right.

01:06:59.200 Do you ever, like, look at a coroner or someone like that who comes in before you on a human

01:07:05.500 trauma site and think, like, man, I wish that that...

01:07:08.600 Like, do you ever want to get into that line of work?

01:07:10.880 Is there anything about it that makes you think that you kind of moved a little further

01:07:16.020 up the food chain, kind of, of death?

01:07:18.720 No, no.

01:07:19.620 I mean, I...

01:07:20.640 Like I said, I just never say no.

01:07:22.740 So, I mean, to me, work is work.

01:07:24.240 I have no real interest in restoration, really.

01:07:27.600 If I was...

01:07:28.260 If someone offered me five more dollars an hour to dig ditches, I would dig ditches.

01:07:31.660 Right.

01:07:32.320 So, to me, it's just about the compensation.

01:07:34.020 I can't think of a different industry with my set of, you know, circumstances or qualifications

01:07:40.480 that I could make more money doing.

01:07:42.520 Right.

01:07:44.400 What, yeah, what can a restorator make if they have a good business going?

01:07:49.140 Well, I mean, as a company, I mean, I think one person, like, with no employees, if you

01:07:55.840 were just subbing everything out, you could probably do seven figures a year.

01:07:59.760 Wow.

01:08:00.160 So, that's if you really base it well and do large loss restoration, because a ton of

01:08:05.520 it is just equipment.

01:08:07.300 And, you know, if you've got good demo companies and stuff like that to do, like, your actual

01:08:11.380 flood cuts or anything else like that, I think practically one person could probably clear

01:08:16.900 a million dollars a year.

01:08:20.940 And how far away can you smell piss from, you think, honestly?

01:08:25.280 I, like, I, I can, it really bothers me when I, like, walk into a house, because I'm so

01:08:32.040 dialed into, like, that, that ammonia smell a long ways away.

01:08:37.760 A long ways away.

01:08:38.740 Like, like, if your dog goes outside into the backyard and you're like, I can, like, I feel

01:08:43.800 like when I walk into a yard, I can tell if a dog lives in that house.

01:08:46.940 Wow.

01:08:48.100 That's a skill, man.

01:08:49.600 Yeah.

01:08:50.100 That's a skill to be able to smell piss from, so how many feet would you say?

01:08:54.200 I don't know.

01:08:56.760 20?

01:08:57.320 I don't know.

01:08:58.560 20 feet.

01:08:59.120 20's not that far.

01:09:00.680 I mean, it's, it's a pretty good distance. 0.92

01:09:02.340 Smell a piss spot.

01:09:03.680 Yeah, I guess that's true, actually.

01:09:04.760 My bad.

01:09:05.740 Yeah, that is true.

01:09:06.600 My bad, man.

01:09:07.740 Yeah, yeah, I guess I was hoping for, I guess part of me honestly was hoping for more.

01:09:11.540 As crazy as that.

01:09:12.120 A quarter mile?

01:09:12.940 I don't know.

01:09:13.280 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:09:14.120 I was like, oh, yeah, he could snout a batch of frickin' body sauce at a quarter mile.

01:09:19.420 Um, do you think there's a time of year when more trauma happens that you notice more human

01:09:25.020 trauma?

01:09:25.700 Is there, is there?

01:09:26.640 Wintertime.

01:09:27.180 Really?

01:09:27.740 Yeah.

01:09:28.480 Like, especially around the holidays.

01:09:29.800 That's when I get the most suicide calls, for sure.

01:09:33.200 I wonder what that is, you think?

01:09:34.340 I mean, I guess that that's kind of a known thing that people take their life around the

01:09:37.140 holidays.

01:09:37.520 Maybe they're lonesome.

01:09:38.520 Yeah, I think it's just like, you know, people are depressed and, you know, they're not

01:09:42.120 happy with like their family situation or whatever.

01:09:45.500 And if people doing suicide, do they do more, do you ever see any rope suicide still or

01:09:50.480 is it all gun work?

01:09:52.440 Generally, I'm only going to get calls for gun stuff because there's not generally a lot

01:09:56.900 of cleanup if you hang yourself.

01:09:58.320 Okay.

01:09:59.240 Yeah, it's kind of crazy.

01:10:00.560 I mean, this is kind of dark, but it's really inconsiderate to kill yourself with a gun in

01:10:05.400 a house, you know, because like now someone's got to deal with all that.

01:10:08.740 Yeah.

01:10:09.340 Yeah.

01:10:09.900 Yeah, people don't think about that, you know.

01:10:11.680 People just think about themselves when they're killing themselves, you know, unfortunately.

01:10:14.340 And, uh, which is part of the issue anyway, why, you know, they're just kind of stuck

01:10:18.700 in their own head and what's in, in their own pain. 0.99

01:10:21.660 Um, what about birds and bird shit? 0.98

01:10:24.600 You running any things like that, like extensive, cause I've seen bird, like dude, I remember 0.99

01:10:28.940 one time I parked over by, I guess I was going into a save a center or something or, uh, it

01:10:35.260 could have been, uh, what's that place called?

01:10:38.840 Um, I don't know how folks like to go all the time, Rouse's.

01:10:43.260 So it could have been a Rouse's market.

01:10:44.800 But anyway, I parked, dude, I swear to God, I was in here probably 16 minutes. 0.83

01:10:49.380 I came out and birds had completely shit up my vehicle.

01:10:53.400 Do you get a lot of stuff like that?

01:10:54.720 Is there bird feces?

01:10:55.700 I have never gotten a call for a bird issue.

01:10:57.940 Really?

01:10:58.420 Never.

01:10:59.020 Not once.

01:11:00.420 Hmm.

01:11:01.980 So I don't know if you can just like scrape it off or something that, you know, you don't

01:11:05.200 ever need like professional intervention, but.

01:11:07.900 I guess I'm thinking in a business that birds have been like sneaking up in an area and defecating

01:11:12.000 for so long.

01:11:12.920 Oh yeah.

01:11:13.400 I don't know.

01:11:14.060 Yeah.

01:11:14.460 And then a chandelier falls in or something, you know, it's like, or, you know, a ceiling

01:11:17.280 come in.

01:11:18.060 You ever see the birds at like Home Depot?

01:11:20.440 Yeah. 0.99

01:11:21.780 How do, where's all that shit go? 1.00

01:11:23.760 I've never seen a bird shit in Home Depot. 1.00

01:11:25.460 That's a good point. 0.99

01:11:26.020 There's lots of birds.

01:11:26.740 Maybe they have a different level of respect for the place.

01:11:29.580 I don't know.

01:11:30.420 That's a good question.

01:11:31.260 Actually.

01:11:31.860 A good guest.

01:11:32.840 Yeah.

01:11:33.160 Yeah.

01:11:33.520 Yeah.

01:11:33.640 That is a good guest.

01:11:34.860 What do you enjoy doing on your personal time, brother?

01:11:36.780 I've really gotten into raves lately.

01:11:38.620 Really?

01:11:38.880 I really like EDM music.

01:11:40.640 Okay.

01:11:40.880 Yeah.

01:11:41.200 I'm looking forward.

01:11:42.160 I'm planning on going to EDC, which is a big music festival.

01:11:46.020 Nice.

01:11:46.420 That's going to be good.

01:11:47.300 And will y'all do like a lot of, do you get into some of the drug culture, the pill culture?

01:11:51.920 It's kind of popular.

01:11:53.000 Yeah.

01:11:53.480 Yeah.

01:11:53.640 You'll get out there and have fun.

01:11:54.480 Oh yeah.

01:11:55.080 I have a good time.

01:11:55.840 Have you ever had any drug experiences where you had to call 911 on yourself?

01:11:59.780 Never.

01:12:00.980 I, uh, although I, I almost have.

01:12:04.840 Yeah. 0.96

01:12:05.240 I mean, shit, I, I've gotten myself into trouble with too many like edibles. 0.99

01:12:09.660 Ooh. 1.00

01:12:10.120 Oh my God.

01:12:11.680 You know, you're, you're contemplating life.

01:12:13.660 Oh yeah.

01:12:14.200 When you start, I can't believe I got a call for that.

01:12:16.320 Hey, we got a guy over here who's just had too many edibles.

01:12:18.820 That happens a lot.

01:12:20.100 Yeah.

01:12:20.440 I had a buddy in my fantasy football league.

01:12:22.560 It was the night before the draft.

01:12:24.320 He ate like a little bit of an edible up in, uh, Toronto.

01:12:28.080 And next thing you know, he was just walking in a circle for about an hour and a half in

01:12:31.400 his room, drinking orange juice and milk.

01:12:34.140 Not doing well, dude.

01:12:35.200 Those things sneak up on you.

01:12:36.860 Yeah. 1.00

01:12:37.460 Holy shit. 1.00

01:12:38.320 And that's not fun. 0.99

01:12:39.340 I don't think doing that, having those beverages and just keep moving like that.

01:12:44.200 You know, to me, that's not a party.

01:12:46.220 No, no.

01:12:47.240 Uh, who do you like?

01:12:48.480 Rufus DeSalle?

01:12:49.200 Do you like stuff like that?

01:12:50.260 Or do you like, like, are you getting into some like real, uh, Nordic kind of German trance

01:12:54.760 stuff or what are you into?

01:12:55.740 No, no.

01:12:56.440 I mean, definitely my favorite for sure is Timmy Trumpet.

01:12:59.420 He is spectacular live.

01:13:01.400 Is he, can you pull him up there, Raleigh?

01:13:04.600 Timmy Trumpet.

01:13:05.420 It's a man?

01:13:06.600 Yeah.

01:13:07.140 Mm-hmm.

01:13:08.660 Yeah.

01:13:09.040 He gets up on stage with like, uh, an actual like trumpet or trombone.

01:13:12.800 Mm-hmm.

01:13:13.300 And I mean, yeah, that's him right there.

01:13:14.840 Okay.

01:13:15.440 Yeah.

01:13:15.620 He is spectacular.

01:13:16.980 Like, uh, I'm seeing Steve Aoki in Minneapolis in a couple, a couple of weeks.

01:13:22.100 Oh, that's, that's fire.

01:13:23.360 Yeah.

01:13:23.540 It's going to be a good time.

01:13:24.940 Nice, man.

01:13:25.920 And, uh, so you just kind of travel around and do this.

01:13:28.560 This is what you do.

01:13:29.480 Mm-hmm.

01:13:30.020 Will you travel?

01:13:30.780 How many different places will you go in a year?

01:13:33.940 Um, I don't know.

01:13:35.880 I mean, not, nothing too crazy.

01:13:37.400 I generally stay in the Midwest.

01:13:39.320 Mm-hmm.

01:13:39.360 Um, this, this one is like the first one I've done in Arizona.

01:13:42.840 Um, I used to, before this, before I did this, I, uh, I, uh, I built in, like, maintained

01:13:50.260 water towers.

01:13:51.260 Mm-hmm.

01:13:51.560 That was a lot of traveling.

01:13:53.240 Oh, really?

01:13:53.780 You mean, like, in towns that have water towers, smaller towns?

01:13:56.340 Mm-hmm.

01:13:56.680 Mm-hmm.

01:13:57.120 Yeah.

01:13:57.480 And then transmission towers and television towers, like, changing light bulbs.

01:14:01.780 That was, like, four cities a week.

01:14:04.580 That was, like, a traveling comedian.

01:14:05.920 It was, like, that much traveling.

01:14:06.560 So, yeah, so you can climb up those towers?

01:14:08.160 Mm-hmm.

01:14:08.920 Wow.

01:14:09.780 Yeah.

01:14:10.020 So, what's that, like, take me through a water tower.

01:14:12.080 So, a water tower, like, in a small town, or, I guess, does it matter, small town or

01:14:15.660 big city?

01:14:16.220 Does it?

01:14:17.060 Um, I only worked in small towns.

01:14:18.740 I mean, obviously, they have them in large towns, but, you know, it was, a lot of times

01:14:23.300 they would, like, just kind of put them on a hill, and it wasn't even really a water

01:14:26.620 tower.

01:14:27.060 It was just, like, a big tank on a hill.

01:14:28.760 Okay.

01:14:29.580 Um.

01:14:30.300 And it's full of water, though.

01:14:31.580 Mm-hmm.

01:14:31.880 And the reason for it?

01:14:33.480 It creates the pressure.

01:14:34.700 That's how, so, like, the reason the water tower is up in the air is because that's what

01:14:38.520 provides the pressure to your house.

01:14:40.460 Okay.

01:14:41.240 It's not like there's a pump or anything.

01:14:42.660 The pump pumps it up in the air, and then it's just gravity is how you've got your, like,

01:14:47.900 your pressure at your tap.

01:14:50.020 So, a lot of people don't realize that.

01:14:51.440 If there were no water tower in their town, they wouldn't have any water pressure.

01:14:53.880 Mm-hmm.

01:14:54.380 Is that the same in cities and in smaller towns?

01:14:56.560 Well, if you're that small of a town, you might have a well, and then you'd have a pump.

01:14:59.960 But if you've got, like, city water, yeah, that's how that works.

01:15:03.000 Wow.

01:15:03.320 Oh, interesting.

01:15:05.440 So, even the water here, you think?

01:15:07.960 Yeah.

01:15:08.420 It's probably because there's a water tower.

01:15:09.820 There's a water tower in the area, yeah.

01:15:11.220 Okay.

01:15:11.600 And so, a larger place, will they have more water towers per population, or?

01:15:15.780 Yeah.

01:15:16.020 And then, when you get into a big enough town, like, in, like, New York City or whatever,

01:15:20.240 the water towers that provide the, the water towers are on top of the buildings.

01:15:25.360 It's like those tanks that are on top of the building.

01:15:27.580 Yeah.

01:15:28.000 That provides the water to that building.

01:15:30.960 Oh, I see.

01:15:32.020 Mm-hmm.

01:15:32.240 So, it'll even get more localized to the actual building where you get that little tank up

01:15:36.100 top.

01:15:36.620 Mm-hmm.

01:15:36.820 That top tank.

01:15:37.660 Dang.

01:15:38.580 And so, take me through that.

01:15:40.360 So, you get to a small town, you roll up on a water tower, and there's a lot of bees and

01:15:44.640 stuff, I bet, huh?

01:15:45.840 Yeah.

01:15:46.200 There's bees, and then the wind is what really kills you.

01:15:48.440 It's really not that bad, because I worked on a service crew, so we didn't generally build

01:15:54.740 them.

01:15:55.320 Okay.

01:15:55.840 So, a lot of it was just, like, doing inspections, and I didn't do the inspections.

01:16:01.760 I was just, like, support, or changing light bulbs, you know?

01:16:06.000 You know, those red blinking light bulbs on tall structures, there's heavy fines if those

01:16:10.860 go out.

01:16:11.780 Oh, really?

01:16:12.600 Mm-hmm.

01:16:13.300 So, who fines the people?

01:16:15.360 Who would fine a town?

01:16:16.820 Oh.

01:16:17.300 Oh, I mean, I wasn't in sales.

01:16:18.860 I mean, there was full-time sales guys.

01:16:20.680 Right, but who fines, say, if the water tower or light goes out, who gets fined for it?

01:16:25.120 Oh, whoever owns that structure.

01:16:27.100 So, like, if it's a water tower, it would be the city, and that's fines from the FAA.

01:16:31.040 Oh, wow.

01:16:31.460 Like, if you don't have functional lights.

01:16:33.980 Transmission towers are going to be owned by, like, the radio station or the television

01:16:36.980 station.

01:16:37.960 So, once you get up to the actual tower, is there usually, like, a platform around the

01:16:41.860 base of the actual water bowl or bulb?

01:16:44.560 Yeah.

01:16:45.220 So, it depends, but generally, yes, there's, like, a walkway on the top and around the, like,

01:16:52.520 outside, and then it's just a stick ladder up.

01:16:56.700 Wow.

01:16:57.880 And what, how do you get onto the top?

01:17:00.140 Because it usually rounds up, bring up a water tower.

01:17:03.320 Brother?

01:17:06.000 Which, what kind are we talking about here?

01:17:08.060 So, generally, I worked on those top ones.

01:17:10.720 Okay.

01:17:11.740 Where it's, like, a metal tank.

01:17:13.320 There you go.

01:17:13.700 Let's link on one of those there, Riley.

01:17:15.680 Yeah.

01:17:16.060 So, there's going to be a walkway, and then there's two walkways there.

01:17:19.660 Okay.

01:17:20.280 And then there's a ladder between them.

01:17:21.680 And then there's generally an access panel on the top.

01:17:25.520 Can you large and up that?

01:17:27.620 Yeah.

01:17:27.780 So, that one doesn't have the second, that one doesn't have the second walkway, but there's

01:17:31.560 going to be a ladder on that tank.

01:17:33.160 So, there's a ladder that goes up there, and then there's a second ladder that'll take

01:17:36.500 you from the platform to the top.

01:17:38.040 Okay.

01:17:38.400 And then, if you zoom way in on that picture up at the very tip top, that should be an

01:17:42.340 access panel right there.

01:17:43.680 I see.

01:17:44.500 Yeah.

01:17:45.260 And when you get, can you get into the water?

01:17:48.480 Yeah.

01:17:48.840 So, when they do the inspections, they actually scuba dive in the tank.

01:17:52.500 You would have to do that?

01:17:53.320 Well, I didn't.

01:17:54.180 But, yeah.

01:17:54.680 Someone on the crew would, yeah.

01:17:56.260 And that's a licensed scuba person?

01:17:57.600 Mm-hmm.

01:17:58.040 Wow.

01:17:58.760 Mm-hmm.

01:17:59.380 So, somebody goes in there, and what are they looking for?

01:18:01.380 They're looking for corrosion, generally.

01:18:03.260 Okay.

01:18:03.540 Uh, corrosion, any, uh, like, foreign materials.

01:18:07.700 But, yeah.

01:18:08.480 Generally, it's just an inspection on the welds or the bolts.

01:18:11.220 Make sure that it's not corroding.

01:18:13.760 Okay.

01:18:14.260 So, somebody goes in there and inspects it.

01:18:15.940 And do you guys ever find anything in those things?

01:18:18.240 Um, not really.

01:18:19.760 I mean, sometimes it would be, like, something that got pumped up, like some debris or a stick.

01:18:24.880 But, almost never.

01:18:26.180 But nothing like the level of stuff you're finding now?

01:18:28.580 No, no.

01:18:30.080 The transmission towers were worse.

01:18:32.220 You know, the transmission towers, you know, there'd be 1,100, 1,500.

01:18:36.340 I think the tallest one in the United States is in North Dakota.

01:18:40.600 And that one's, like, I might be speaking out of turn, but it's, like, 2,050 feet.

01:18:45.820 Oh, feet up in the air.

01:18:46.840 Yeah.

01:18:47.440 So, these, you're not at a ton of risk up there for, like, you said wind is a little bit issue when you're on these water towers.

01:18:53.140 Mm-hmm.

01:18:53.320 If it's a windy space, then you, you.

01:18:55.380 Yeah.

01:18:55.820 You gotta really.

01:18:56.300 Do you kind of, like, attach yourself as you're going up?

01:19:00.940 Yeah, generally.

01:19:01.720 Like a carabiner or something?

01:19:02.600 Yeah, you want to try and keep, like, 100% connection.

01:19:06.220 So, like, you've got a harness on, and then it's got a Y-hook onto it.

01:19:10.420 And then that Y-hook, so you hook one up, and then you climb a little bit, you hook the other one up. 0.90

01:19:15.480 So, you're always connected, even when you're moving it.

01:19:18.260 Yeah.

01:19:18.700 Like LeClerc, like that boy LeClerc.

01:19:20.340 Have you seen The Alpinist?

01:19:21.640 No, I haven't.

01:19:22.460 Oh, man, it's good.

01:19:23.340 And so, when you get to the transmission towers, that's even, that's way up there.

01:19:29.800 And what is that?

01:19:31.040 You bring up a transmission tower, Raleigh?

01:19:32.700 Yeah, look up television tower, television transmission tower.

01:19:36.540 Yeah, so the taller your, like, antenna is, or your broadcast pole, the less power it takes to go further.

01:19:45.920 Oh, that?

01:19:46.980 You go up there?

01:19:47.840 Yeah.

01:19:48.120 No!

01:19:49.600 Mm-hmm.

01:19:49.920 What? 1.00

01:19:52.260 Damn, y'all up there, huh? 1.00

01:19:53.900 And can you hear television when you're up there? 1.00

01:19:56.060 No, no, you can't hear any of that.

01:19:57.820 But a lot of times, they'll have cell phone towers, or, like, cell phone antennas on there.

01:20:02.380 You've got to be careful about that, because normally, they'll only want to shut off one side, so you've got to climb on one side.

01:20:07.420 Mm-hmm.

01:20:07.720 And if you accidentally climb in front of one of those, like, cell phone transmitters, you'll get a sunburn through your clothes, yeah.

01:20:16.900 Because they work on microwaves, I think.

01:20:19.840 So, like, just for, like, a second, and you, like, you go in front of it, because they're so high-powered, you're, like, microwaving yourself.

01:20:25.160 No way.

01:20:25.660 So, you'll, like, take your shirt off, and you're sunburned.

01:20:28.260 From just walking through the pathway?

01:20:30.400 Mm-hmm.

01:20:30.580 If you stayed in the path, could you die? 0.72

01:20:32.480 I'm sure you could.

01:20:33.400 I mean, it would probably take a while, but it'd be a crummy way to go.

01:20:37.720 And what's going through you?

01:20:38.380 Just all the calls and everything, all the information?

01:20:40.000 Yeah, yeah, all that stuff.

01:20:41.780 Yeah, so that was pretty nutty.

01:20:43.860 They find you, and you just have a Nike advertisement on your chest?

01:20:47.380 A pop-up ad.

01:20:47.700 You just have something for, yeah, for ButcherBox?

01:20:50.660 Wow, bro, that's bananas.

01:20:53.020 Yeah, that was terrible.

01:20:54.760 Dude, you've done some pretty unique jobs, man.

01:20:57.520 Just don't say no.

01:20:59.400 Wow.

01:20:59.880 And is that a motto of yours overall in your life, kind of, a little bit?

01:21:03.940 Yeah, I really do try.

01:21:06.500 You know, it's like, that's the only way that I feel like I've been able to, like, maintain, like, a, like, my personal life.

01:21:14.000 It's just like, I'll work, like, a long time.

01:21:16.740 And, you know, it's like, well, my friends are going to a show or something like that, and so we'll go out to go to the show.

01:21:22.160 Show's done at, like, 1.30, and then I'll go back to work sometimes.

01:21:25.460 I mean, that's happened.

01:21:26.300 And, you know, but it's like, if I don't just do it, then it's like, you're just not going to have a personal life.

01:21:32.000 And it's, yeah, it's the same thing, you know, it's like, when you work, like, a lot of times I work seven days a week, you know, and it's like, I still want to go out to brunch and stuff like that, you know, and even if you're tired or whatever, it is like, but if you don't, like, work to maintain it, it'll just go away, you know?

01:21:47.320 I love that, man.

01:21:48.220 Yeah, because I find sometimes I'll get too caught up in what I'm thinking or feeling instead of just staying busy with my work, you know?

01:21:53.860 Yeah.

01:21:54.080 And a lot of times just staying busy will keep you out of, like, you know, I'll get caught up in, like, self-pity or just thinking about myself too much.

01:22:00.580 It's like, I guess the busier you stay, it really does just kind of keep things moving.

01:22:05.280 Yeah, yeah, and it's like, I've tried a lot of stuff.

01:22:07.620 I'm always down to try stuff.

01:22:09.080 I mean, it's crazy that I'm here right now.

01:22:10.760 Yeah.

01:22:10.940 It's like.

01:22:11.520 Yeah, it's crazy, man.

01:22:12.480 It's awesome, dude.

01:22:13.220 It's so fascinating to hear what goes on.

01:22:16.800 Who does this kind of stuff?

01:22:18.020 Because a lot of times we think that things just get done somehow.

01:22:22.140 You know?

01:22:22.880 It's like, oh, that just gets done.

01:22:24.420 Yeah.

01:22:25.060 But to think that somebody actually comes and takes care of certain things, yeah, it's interesting, man, because a lot of us would never know what that's like.

01:22:34.040 Well, and it's like my next step, what I really want to get into is I'm working on getting into large laws, so, like, you know, million-dollar projects and stuff like that.

01:22:41.240 But I really want to do cat work, and that's like the hurricanes and stuff.

01:22:44.560 So, I mean, like, when there's the hurricanes rolling through Louisiana, someone's got to clean up all that stuff.

01:22:50.000 I want to do that.

01:22:50.840 My buddy Giddy does that, and I think my buddy Tully does that.

01:22:54.020 From growing up, they travel around if there's a big hurricane or storm, and they do, I guess, loss.

01:22:59.980 But that might be insurance loss or something like that.

01:23:01.880 There might be an insurance adjuster, too.

01:23:03.400 But you want to get in there and really do the-

01:23:05.580 You want to do the work, yeah.

01:23:06.800 You want to do the work.

01:23:07.520 Yeah, like, I got a good buddy of mine.

01:23:11.540 They were down in Texas for that real bad freeze-up.

01:23:14.120 Mm-hmm.

01:23:14.700 And so, like, there was apartment buildings that every water pipe burst.

01:23:18.700 And so, I mean, you're talking about an apartment building that's got 300, 400 units in it, and every single one's wet and molding.

01:23:25.120 And all that stuff's got to get gutted.

01:23:26.760 Like, that's what I really want to do is I want to do, like, the real large loss stuff.

01:23:30.820 Wow.

01:23:31.220 And what's fascinating about it?

01:23:32.300 I mean, I guess, obviously, it's a higher-paying job.

01:23:34.700 Yeah, and I mean, it's just, like, the idea of, like, doing the larger jobs where it's, like, I've got one job for, like, the next month instead of, like, the traveling around all the time.

01:23:41.620 And the middle-of-the-night calls and stuff like that is, I'd really like that, I think.

01:23:47.000 And how, what do your folks think of your work?

01:23:51.820 It's kind of funny.

01:23:52.860 So, my father just passed away.

01:23:55.500 Oh, man, I'm sorry to hear that.

01:23:57.080 Yeah, thank you.

01:23:57.900 I appreciate it.

01:23:57.940 What happened with him?

01:23:58.840 A cancer.

01:23:59.620 Oh.

01:24:00.060 It just ate him alive.

01:24:02.300 Yeah, it was St. Patrick's Day this year.

01:24:04.160 No way.

01:24:05.100 Mm-hmm.

01:24:05.820 Oh, man.

01:24:06.880 Was he a pretty neat guy?

01:24:09.000 Oh, super cool.

01:24:10.120 I mean, he's got a really crazy life story, too, family and everything.

01:24:13.820 Wow.

01:24:14.520 But, so, when I was in high school and I was really kind of fucking things up, he pulled me aside one day and he says, you know, there's only three ways you can be successful in this world.

01:24:23.140 You can do things better than anyone else can do it.

01:24:25.660 You can do something no one else can do or you can do things that no one else wants to do.

01:24:31.200 And I was like, that's what I'm going to do.

01:24:33.320 And that was not how he meant that.

01:24:35.340 But, you know.

01:24:36.460 Dude, that's a really good square way to kind of communicate with your child.

01:24:44.520 Yeah.

01:24:45.200 These are sort of the options because it sounds very like, okay, that makes real clear sense.

01:24:52.260 Yeah.

01:24:52.960 Yeah, I mean, he was a well-spoken dude.

01:24:54.960 He was an aircraft mechanic and my mother's a therapist.

01:24:59.160 And where did they meet each other at?

01:25:00.900 Through a FedEx driver. 0.99

01:25:03.780 Oh, damn. 1.00

01:25:04.620 Yeah. 1.00

01:25:05.500 That's a, yeah.

01:25:06.860 So, my mom was working at her mother's business and their FedEx driver was my dad's friend.

01:25:13.400 Okay.

01:25:13.700 And so, you know, he's meeting this pretty girl at the FedEx thing. 0.57

01:25:16.800 He's like, you've got to meet a friend of mine.

01:25:18.820 Yeah.

01:25:19.080 And so, literally, the FedEx driver set them up.

01:25:21.540 They were married for almost 30 years.

01:25:23.700 That's delivery, baby.

01:25:24.600 That's dang.

01:25:25.800 Yeah, dude.

01:25:26.260 And look, FedEx, I've always thought, first of all, obviously, they're doing great things for people.

01:25:30.000 I don't think Amazon's really making love like that.

01:25:32.480 But FedEx, man, they should do airline.

01:25:36.680 Because there's been times where I've mailed a package somewhere and then I tried to fly this commercial airline and I could, they're like, we have something that flies delayed or whatever.

01:25:44.460 Yeah.

01:25:44.740 But the package is, that thing goes out every time.

01:25:48.280 Yeah, if it doesn't get there in a day, they'll refund you.

01:25:50.200 Dude, if FedEx did an airline, I would be all over that, like a commercial airline.

01:25:54.460 Mm-hmm.

01:25:54.780 It'd be so sick.

01:25:56.600 Yeah.

01:25:56.780 Well, I bet your dad was really proud of how you became just so much of your own ingenuity, you know, and just taking control of your own destiny.

01:26:04.560 Yeah.

01:26:04.940 I mean, he definitely shared with me that, you know, because I moved out, you know, and I just dropped out of school.

01:26:12.280 I moved out of the house.

01:26:13.460 Yeah, those are like warning signs to a parent.

01:26:15.480 Yeah, they were like, oh, we really weren't thinking that this was going to work out, you know.

01:26:19.640 And I was like, well, made it work somehow.

01:26:22.280 Do you think there's any way to avoid trauma in the world?

01:26:24.340 We'll just finish with this question.

01:26:25.700 Like I said, man, I just think that there's got to be better mental health something.

01:26:29.640 I don't know the solution.

01:26:30.900 I don't pretend to know the solution, but it's just like more care for people that can't get care of themselves.

01:26:36.940 Yeah.

01:26:37.460 You ever roll up on anybody and they're in a costume or something like that?

01:26:39.940 They're dressed like, you know, they got a crown on or anything like that?

01:26:43.980 No, nothing crazy like that.

01:26:45.720 But like I said, I deal with some people that are maybe not firing on all cylinders.

01:26:50.620 Oh, yeah.

01:26:51.060 And nudity is the thing that happens a lot.

01:26:56.680 That's the first thing you know.

01:26:57.680 Yeah, if somebody's nude, you kind of see what you're saying.

01:26:59.860 Yeah, if you're answering your door and you're naked, there's something not going on, right?

01:27:04.160 Yeah, there's a glitch.

01:27:05.000 There's a little glitch in the system.

01:27:06.240 Dude, we had a guy, Buzz, he used to poop in this vase.

01:27:09.200 He had like a vase in his town or vase or vase in his house and he would tell us, go look in the vase, right?

01:27:17.220 And we'd be pooping there.

01:27:19.140 And we'd always be like, there's not still going to be pooping there like a year or two later, dude.

01:27:23.160 And every time there was still, it was like, oh, come on, man. 0.99

01:27:26.420 But it's crazy how many times you'll go back to the well sometimes when somebody's tricking you, you know, shit tricking you. 1.00

01:27:32.460 Shit tricking you. 1.00

01:27:33.680 Bobby Cotton, dude, thank you so much for coming in, man. 1.00

01:27:36.020 Good luck out there at the raves.

01:27:37.600 And thank you.

01:27:39.740 First of all, I just want to say thank you so much for just for getting things back to their original form, man.

01:27:47.380 Thank you.

01:27:47.960 For repairing things that need to be repaired in the world.

01:27:49.780 Yeah, and thanks for having me.

01:27:50.840 I really enjoyed this.

01:27:51.980 Yeah, this is awesome, man.

01:27:52.900 Thank you so much for your time, man.

01:27:55.600 And we'll share Rob's socials if you guys want to hit him up.

01:27:58.860 And yeah, that's Trauma Cleanup, man.

01:28:00.520 Rob Cotton.

01:28:01.200 Thank you, Bob.

01:28:01.820 Thank you.

01:28:02.200 Now I'm just floating on the breeze

01:28:05.540 And I feel I'm falling like these leaves

01:28:08.500 I must be cornerstone

01:28:11.820 Oh, but when I reach that ground

01:28:16.400 I'll share this peace of mind I found

01:28:19.220 I can feel it in my bones

01:28:22.720 But it's gonna take a little time

01:28:28.380 For me to set that parking brake

01:28:32.180 And let myself unwind

01:28:35.060 Shine that light on me

01:28:38.980 I'll sit and tell you my stories

01:28:44.940 Shine on me

01:28:49.660 And I will find a song

01:28:53.900 I will sing it just for you

01:28:57.320 And now I've been moving way too fast

01:29:04.840 On a runaway train

01:29:06.240 With a heavy load of my hands

01:29:09.680 And these wheels that I've been riding on

01:29:15.320 They're worn so thin

01:29:16.740 That they're damn near gone

01:29:18.060 I guess now they just weren't

01:29:19.980 Built to land

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This Past Weekend with Theo Von - May 10, 2022

E392 Trauma Restoration Man

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