This Past Weekend with Theo Von - E397 Parker McCollum

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00:01:54.760 I want to let you guys know that next week I'll be touring there doing Florida.

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00:02:18.280 It's hot as heck in here.

00:02:20.900 I don't know why.

00:02:22.940 It is just hot outside.

00:02:26.360 And the ACs are something.

00:02:30.280 You know, coils or whatever.

00:02:33.660 Yeah, I mean, it's like somebody just put a bunch of heat in here. 1.00

00:02:36.520 Like somebody just damn back the damn truck of sunlight up into this bitch. 1.00

00:02:43.600 Today's guest, fortunately he rolls with the punches. 1.00

00:02:48.400 Because, hey boy.

00:02:51.100 Because we in here.

00:02:53.840 I'm grateful to have him.

00:02:54.980 He has hit singles in country music.

00:02:57.260 He's a music man.

00:02:58.240 And he has hit singles, Pretty Heart and To Be Loved By You.

00:03:03.520 I think if you like this podcast, I believe you'll like some of his tunes.

00:03:09.760 Yeah, I'm grateful that he's here.

00:03:12.000 He was just voted best new male, country male.

00:03:15.440 And that's, I mean, that's, you know, that's unbelievable.

00:03:21.200 So, he is extremely talented.

00:03:24.640 He's out of Texas.

00:03:27.120 And, yeah, I don't know why I'm rambling.

00:03:30.980 But, I think, I needed him to be here today.

00:03:36.020 And so, I'm very grateful.

00:03:38.220 Enjoy the episode with Mr. Parker McCollum.

00:03:40.940 I'll set that parking brake and let myself unwind

00:03:45.560 Shine that light on me

00:03:49.520 I'll sit and tell you my stories

00:03:55.220 Shine on me

00:04:00.220 And I will find a song

00:04:04.440 I'll be singing just for me

00:04:07.840 It's time to sweat.

00:04:14.540 I know, dude.

00:04:15.360 It's time to sweat.

00:04:17.120 It's sweaty in here today, isn't it?

00:04:18.440 It is sweaty.

00:04:19.360 Do you feel like it's sweaty in here?

00:04:20.700 Not yet.

00:04:21.120 I don't really sweat a whole lot, man.

00:04:22.500 Really?

00:04:22.840 Yeah.

00:04:23.640 Oh, dang.

00:04:24.100 Do you think you might have a...

00:04:26.460 Because I guess you're from kind of a desert area.

00:04:28.460 Is that right?

00:04:29.100 No, not at all.

00:04:30.100 Oh, really?

00:04:30.520 From, like, the sprawling metropolis of North Houston.

00:04:33.200 Oh, really?

00:04:34.300 Yeah, man. 1.00

00:04:34.840 I mean, I grew up, you know, out in the country, but very, very close to a lot of shit. 1.00

00:04:41.080 Okay. 0.99

00:04:41.600 Very humid, very hot.

00:04:43.100 Is it?

00:04:43.640 I think I'm just immune to it.

00:04:44.960 Dang, yeah, you might be, man.

00:04:46.400 Built up an immunity.

00:04:48.960 Because you grew up out in...

00:04:50.860 I know you were in Texas, and is that West Texas considered?

00:04:54.180 No, no.

00:04:54.600 I grew up in Southeast Texas, just north of Houston.

00:04:56.880 And then I lived in Austin. 0.99

00:04:57.980 Ten days after I graduated high school, I moved to Austin, and I was like, I'm gonna be a fucking country singer. 0.99

00:05:03.360 Really? 0.99

00:05:03.860 Yeah.

00:05:05.020 Sorry, man, I got in late last night.

00:05:07.000 That's good, though.

00:05:08.100 Did you have a good time?

00:05:09.620 No, man, I did not.

00:05:10.740 I had a...

00:05:11.040 I think...

00:05:11.380 Well, I mean, I don't know if I did or not.

00:05:15.460 Parker McCollum, ladies and gentlemen.

00:05:18.140 Thanks for being here, man.

00:05:19.180 Man, thanks for having me.

00:05:20.060 I appreciate it.

00:05:20.620 Yeah, it's nice to get to meet you.

00:05:24.060 Yeah, I had... 0.97

00:05:25.240 We had to go do an intervention on a family member yesterday, so it was like, damn, you know? 0.97

00:05:29.980 You know who Shane Gillis is? 0.98

00:05:31.660 Yeah, yeah.

00:05:32.080 Have you seen his live in Austin stand-up?

00:05:35.220 Is that his special?

00:05:36.500 Yeah, where he talks about taking his sister that was doing heroin to her intervention.

00:05:39.780 They took her to six flags.

00:05:40.980 I haven't seen that part.

00:05:41.940 Uh-uh.

00:05:42.140 It's gold, dude.

00:05:44.220 Then that's what we should have done.

00:05:45.600 Yeah.

00:05:46.200 Because we took her...

00:05:47.340 Yeah, we just wanted one flag.

00:05:48.620 It was like the flag of surrender, and she didn't, and you know, and we didn't see it.

00:05:55.200 So it was just a long day, man.

00:05:57.160 Yeah.

00:05:57.320 You had a better day than me.

00:05:58.360 You played Nissan Stadium yesterday.

00:06:00.780 I did, yeah, last night.

00:06:02.400 That was good.

00:06:02.840 That was crazy, man.

00:06:03.560 Yeah, it was good, dude.

00:06:04.400 It was...

00:06:05.480 Um, my mom was there, so I think that's kind of cool, you know?

00:06:09.100 When I...

00:06:09.980 So she probably didn't...

00:06:11.600 I probably didn't look like the most promising prospect 10 years ago to play country music

00:06:15.960 successfully, so I think that's...

00:06:18.300 Probably helps her sleep a little bit at night to see it going well like that.

00:06:21.500 Oh, really?

00:06:21.980 Do you think that...

00:06:22.620 So 10 years ago, you think she didn't have probably as much confidence in you?

00:06:26.080 No, I mean, I just, I don't think I was, you know, if you'd look at it from like a scout

00:06:30.360 evaluating a ball player, you'd probably be like, he's never going to make it, you know?

00:06:36.280 And then he makes it to the league, so...

00:06:38.720 Um, did it feel like that last night coming out there, like, that I'm making it to the

00:06:43.900 league?

00:06:44.140 I mean, that must have felt like something unique.

00:06:45.580 I mean, not many people get to play a stadium, uh, no matter how well they're doing.

00:06:49.180 Man, it was cool.

00:06:50.340 I was so tired and so hungry, um, that I was really excited to get done with it and

00:06:57.240 go home.

00:06:58.080 Yeah.

00:06:58.340 But it was dope, certainly.

00:07:00.020 A lot of people.

00:07:01.420 When, was it the kind of the thing where, I am, am I on dang drugs?

00:07:05.020 Yeah, but it's kind of shining.

00:07:06.220 It looks good.

00:07:07.000 The lights are hitting it.

00:07:07.860 It's bouncing.

00:07:08.960 Yeah, it's good.

00:07:10.300 Come get it, yeah.

00:07:11.120 If there's anybody out there with dry skin, come...

00:07:13.060 Old Spice commercial coming in.

00:07:15.240 Come give me a hug, honey.

00:07:17.020 I will definitely moisten you up.

00:07:18.700 Um...

00:07:20.340 Yeah, did it feel like, so you're walking out in front of that many people, uh, can you

00:07:25.380 feel, does your body start to not, because, I mean, I have feelings I'll walk out in front

00:07:29.140 of a few thousand and there's moments where, like, I think especially the first time where

00:07:32.880 it's like, okay, are my legs still moving forward?

00:07:36.120 Like, it's almost, do you disconnect a little bit from yourself?

00:07:38.720 Man, that's only happened to me one time when we played the Houston Rodeo at the beginning

00:07:43.000 of this year.

00:07:43.820 It's like the only time that I was, like, gummy worm legs out there.

00:07:47.140 You know, I'd had, like, I tried to have, like, a couple cocktails take the edge off.

00:07:51.160 It was 71,000 people sold out.

00:07:53.100 The Houston Texan Stadium.

00:07:54.680 We were headlining.

00:07:56.460 And the stage is rotating.

00:07:58.680 And I was the whole, like, 60-minute show.

00:08:00.540 I'm out there.

00:08:01.040 And I was just, it was just, like, a mess, dude. 1.00

00:08:03.500 Like, I ate shit on stage. 0.99

00:08:04.920 I've never fallen on stage. 1.00

00:08:06.220 Really?

00:08:06.840 I fell.

00:08:07.900 It was great.

00:08:08.620 Oh, you were just...

00:08:09.240 Yeah, dude.

00:08:09.720 It was the full, the full experience.

00:08:12.240 And when you were singing, do you feel like, as you were singing, that you also, like,

00:08:15.880 had control over what you were saying?

00:08:17.000 Because I would, I'm trying to wonder if, because physically I could understand.

00:08:20.520 Maybe it's like, oh, man.

00:08:21.500 It's just overwhelming.

00:08:22.400 Right.

00:08:22.820 It's like, usually if I'm nervous, like, one or two songs in, you're back to, it's probably

00:08:27.700 the same thing with doing stand-up.

00:08:28.860 Like, you know, even if you are nervous, like, once you get into your jokes, you're rolling,

00:08:32.340 right?

00:08:32.460 You've done it a thousand times.

00:08:33.920 But that was, like, the one night that I was, like, the whole entire show, I was just, like,

00:08:38.460 googly-eyed up there.

00:08:39.500 Like, could not gather myself.

00:08:40.980 Wow.

00:08:42.020 Yeah.

00:08:42.620 So last night when I walked out there, I was just, I don't know, you're kind of, just

00:08:47.140 normal.

00:08:48.180 You've done it.

00:08:48.680 Yeah.

00:08:49.180 Yeah.

00:08:50.340 Dang it.

00:08:50.780 Isn't it kind of interesting how things that would seem like a dream start to feel kind

00:08:54.920 of normal?

00:08:56.000 Yeah.

00:08:56.400 Well, that, like, kind of messes with me with crowds, man.

00:08:58.640 When we go somewhere, we'll only sell, like, three or four thousand tickets, which is a lot

00:09:01.840 of people.

00:09:02.320 That's a lot.

00:09:03.280 That used to be, like, huge for us.

00:09:05.320 And now, when we only sell three or four thousand, I'm like, have we peaked?

00:09:09.960 Right.

00:09:10.180 And then the next night, we'll sell 10,000.

00:09:11.920 But it's, like, it's that perspective thing, man.

00:09:14.300 You get, it's crazy what you can get used to.

00:09:16.160 Yeah.

00:09:16.920 Very quickly.

00:09:17.420 Yeah.

00:09:17.660 And how quick it happens.

00:09:18.800 Yeah.

00:09:19.320 That's really what's wild.

00:09:20.540 Mm-hmm.

00:09:20.800 So, you started out, I know you started out over there in Texas, man.

00:09:24.860 And tell me a little bit about, like, do you remember, like, the first, like, song or anything

00:09:28.240 you ever heard?

00:09:29.060 Do you remember anything like that?

00:09:30.460 Yeah.

00:09:30.780 The first, like, song I ever fell in love with was Amarillo by Morning by George Stray.

00:09:35.620 Oh, yeah.

00:09:36.180 Yeah.

00:09:36.440 Which was a good one.

00:09:38.160 Yeah.

00:09:38.680 Yeah.

00:09:38.940 I didn't even know what Amarillo was, man.

00:09:41.000 And I remember saying that.

00:09:41.880 I just played there on Saturday night.

00:09:43.280 Wow.

00:09:43.600 I called it their national anthem on stage, and I got a real good reaction.

00:09:47.600 They liked that a lot.

00:09:50.820 Yeah.

00:09:51.280 I remember hearing, I'm trying to think of the first, oh, I heard Bon Jovi was the first

00:09:58.200 song that I ever heard.

00:09:59.720 They were going to be a big deal.

00:10:01.240 Yeah.

00:10:01.840 Yeah.

00:10:02.260 The first time I remember hearing a song, Bon Jovi, and I was with, like, a babysitter.

00:10:06.240 I've told this story before, but I was with a babysitter.

00:10:08.100 And so, I think, like, there was also, like, a woman there.

00:10:10.320 My mom wasn't there.

00:10:11.640 Was she hot? 1.00

00:10:12.320 Yeah.

00:10:12.660 I mean, she was, yeah.

00:10:14.900 I feel like all babysitters are hot when you're the baby they're sitting.

00:10:17.420 Dude, yeah.

00:10:18.140 You know?

00:10:18.640 Oh, I was like, dang.

00:10:19.960 Yeah, I wanted her to sit closer.

00:10:21.060 Kendra Scott actually used to be my babysitter when I was a kid.

00:10:23.600 Yeah, true story.

00:10:24.980 Kendra Scott?

00:10:25.700 Who is it?

00:10:26.120 Bring her up, Trevin.

00:10:27.420 She was dating my uncle back in the day.

00:10:30.140 Kendra Scott?

00:10:31.340 She's, like, the big jewelry maker.

00:10:34.320 All the girls wear all her stuff. 0.83

00:10:36.000 Let's get an image of her. 0.92

00:10:37.340 And that used to be her babysitter, huh?

00:10:38.780 Yeah.

00:10:39.140 She used to watch me when I was a little kid.

00:10:41.380 Wow.

00:10:41.700 And now she's, like, a billionaire.

00:10:43.320 Oh, she is. 0.88

00:10:44.280 Dang.

00:10:44.700 She's done very well.

00:10:46.520 And do you have any recollections of the babysitting going on?

00:10:49.320 No, dude.

00:10:49.560 I don't remember it at all.

00:10:50.520 I would not have known had my mom not told me.

00:10:52.340 She's like, oh, yeah, she used to date your uncle, and she used to watch you guys.

00:10:55.620 Dang.

00:10:55.980 And your uncle must have really.

00:10:57.200 What happened with him?

00:10:58.040 He couldn't hang on, huh?

00:10:59.640 Dude, I think, I don't know.

00:11:01.380 I've never really heard the full story, but he, uh, it's my Uncle Chris, my dad's little

00:11:05.360 brother, and he was just, like, a future Hall of Famer in the game of life.

00:11:10.100 Was he?

00:11:10.420 A true OG.

00:11:11.420 Oh, is he?

00:11:12.060 And it does not surprise me that he was pulling that back in the day.

00:11:15.320 Wow.

00:11:16.080 He's been, he's a real aficionado when it comes to the gals?

00:11:18.640 There is no question.

00:11:20.040 Dang.

00:11:20.460 Yes.

00:11:21.680 I guess I didn't get that part of that gene in the family.

00:11:24.760 You didn't?

00:11:25.400 No, I don't think so.

00:11:26.400 Dude, I'm sure you, I mean, you kind of feel like you kind of look like, I mean, you look 0.86

00:11:29.760 like you play, like you would play center on, like, on Justin Bieber's, like, fantasy

00:11:35.900 basketball team, I feel like.

00:11:37.340 I feel like if he had a fan league basketball team, you'd play center.

00:11:40.300 I think you seem like you're doing fine.

00:11:42.280 I would love to play center on Justin Bieber's family basketball team.

00:11:45.680 I may have missed my calling.

00:11:49.240 But you're locked down.

00:11:50.160 And I know you recently got engaged, or you recently got married.

00:11:52.880 Yeah, yeah, I got married.

00:11:54.080 I'm, like, two months in.

00:11:55.400 Was it, uh, and what does that feel like?

00:11:58.040 Does it feel different being married?

00:11:59.720 Does it feel...

00:12:01.520 No, I've been home, like, three nights since we got married up on the road.

00:12:05.720 So it's, uh, there's no different at all.

00:12:09.380 Dang.

00:12:10.240 Other than now when I come off stage, I just get on my bus and go to bed.

00:12:13.940 Yeah.

00:12:14.540 So that's about the only thing that's changed.

00:12:16.420 Yeah.

00:12:17.120 So take me out of then, so take me where you start music.

00:12:19.400 You start, the first song you hear, or that you remember hearing is George Strait, Amarillo by Morning.

00:12:23.860 That's the first song you remember hearing?

00:12:25.420 Yeah.

00:12:25.760 The first one I can remember being, like, I like that.

00:12:28.680 That sounds good.

00:12:29.580 Yeah.

00:12:29.960 I want to do that.

00:12:30.960 Um, and I was probably, like, I don't know, seven, maybe six years old, something like that.

00:12:37.740 But my older brother, Tyler, he's, like, phenomenal songwriter.

00:12:40.480 He was the one that when I was a kid, you know, I mean, he's a big brother.

00:12:43.800 I just wanted to do whatever. 0.98

00:12:44.760 Like, he could have been fucking ice skating, and I would probably be a professional ice skater right now. 0.98

00:12:49.580 Like, whatever big brother was doing is what I wanted to do. 0.99

00:12:51.600 But he happened to play guitar and want to write songs, and I was like, all right, I'm going to do that.

00:12:56.280 So, that's, so, do you have no doubt that that's kind of where your, where your passion for it came from?

00:13:01.780 Yeah, no question.

00:13:02.580 No.

00:13:03.200 And I just, I don't know, I remember being, like, a little kid, and I would hear that song, or any song, and I would sing it, and all the time.

00:13:10.820 But I don't think anybody ever thought that I would sing it for, or be singing 20 years later.

00:13:17.000 So.

00:13:17.880 And at what point did it start to turn into kind of a job for you?

00:13:20.580 Or even, like, how did it evolve then into a hobby?

00:13:24.520 Did somebody get you an instrument that you, like, were you, like, dialed in at school and music?

00:13:28.600 No, I was, like.

00:13:29.540 You're sweating so bad.

00:13:30.500 Dude, I think it's good.

00:13:32.400 I just went for a run.

00:13:32.420 I was just, I just went for a run, so.

00:13:35.040 The lights look so good on the sweat, dude.

00:13:37.240 I would just own it.

00:13:38.560 I'm owned in it, but I just feel like.

00:13:40.460 I think it's sharp, dude.

00:13:41.600 I think it's kind of setting the vibe, setting the tone. 0.99

00:13:43.780 I feel like I'm fucking. 0.98

00:13:45.180 Like, there's no question with the time of year that we did this interview. 0.99

00:13:48.400 Yeah.

00:13:48.820 There's no doubt about that.

00:13:50.180 Yeah.

00:13:50.840 Dang. 0.99

00:13:50.940 It's fucking summertime. 0.99

00:13:51.940 The good thing is summer's almost over, though, so not a whole lot of heat left. 0.99

00:13:55.200 You know, only about four months.

00:13:56.700 Well, at least two months of her sitting right over here on my forehead. 1.00

00:13:59.300 That's for sure, baby.

00:14:00.260 Dang, I feel lit up, man.

00:14:01.560 It is wet, dude.

00:14:02.300 I feel like the Lord is just, God, washing me with his tongue.

00:14:08.260 So, dude, I am so sleaky.

00:14:11.500 I can't even, like, I feel like getting my thoughts together, dog.

00:14:14.900 Dude, that's good, man.

00:14:17.420 That's what I feel like, dude.

00:14:18.380 You're making me feel better.

00:14:19.160 I was debating hitting the pin before I came.

00:14:21.360 Were you really?

00:14:22.060 Yeah. 1.00

00:14:22.540 Damn. 0.99

00:14:23.360 But it's kind of hit or miss. 0.99

00:14:24.900 Yeah.

00:14:25.440 Because sometimes you hit the pin and, like, you're real funny and you're witty and it

00:14:28.840 goes well.

00:14:29.280 And the other times you hit the pin and you're like, I mean, just as worthless as could it

00:14:35.020 ever be.

00:14:35.760 Yeah.

00:14:35.940 So I was like, man, I think I'll just, no pin this morning.

00:14:39.140 Yeah.

00:14:39.700 That's probably a good choice.

00:14:40.680 I mean, it's, yeah, I think that's that risk.

00:14:42.660 Because you can't tell exactly how much you're going to get.

00:14:45.400 Yes.

00:14:45.860 You know?

00:14:46.580 And it's my driver, shout out Flex, always gives me these pins.

00:14:50.140 He always, like, sneaks them.

00:14:51.320 You know, when I'm getting out, I'll, like, give him a $100 bill and he hands me these

00:14:54.060 little, these, like, the pins nowadays look like they come from Target.

00:14:57.720 Anything.

00:14:58.260 In the candy section.

00:14:59.240 Yeah.

00:14:59.780 And he'll hand me one and sometimes they're, I mean, it's like, you know, doing crack or

00:15:05.240 something.

00:15:05.600 I mean, you hit it and you're like, I don't, what is weed nowadays, man?

00:15:08.520 Back when I was in high school, like, it was dirty and had seeds and stems, you know?

00:15:12.500 And nowadays it's like, like, you may end up literally, like, dead.

00:15:17.400 It's so powerful.

00:15:18.000 Oh, I feel, yeah.

00:15:18.880 Some of the stuff, man, I remember hitting something one time and I felt like they were

00:15:22.720 just, like, somebody had done construction in my head, you know?

00:15:26.500 Does it make you think a lot?

00:15:31.280 Well, that's a good word.

00:15:32.920 Does it make me think? 0.92

00:15:33.880 I didn't want to hit it because I would come in here and I would look you dead in the

00:15:36.300 eye and you'll be talking.

00:15:38.160 Yeah.

00:15:38.660 And then you get done talking and I'll have to go, Theo, what did you just say?

00:15:42.720 Because I'm out there thinking about the fact that we're on a rock floating around a ball

00:15:46.300 of fire in the void, you know, instead of having the conversation that I'm a part of.

00:15:50.500 And so I was like, we'll just, we'll hit it after.

00:15:53.240 We'll hit it on the way home.

00:15:53.880 There we go.

00:15:54.180 On the way home.

00:15:54.780 I feel like it gives my mind a vacation sometimes.

00:15:57.460 When I used to smoke weed, it would give my mind a vacation, but sometimes I would get too

00:16:00.300 paranoid.

00:16:00.580 And then one of the first times I ever got high was at this girl's house and everybody

00:16:06.320 had left.

00:16:07.100 We all smoked weed and everybody else left the room.

00:16:10.660 And then I remember her dad, I kind of like, her dad had been like sitting there watching

00:16:18.060 me be stoned.

00:16:18.960 Like I was just like laying on the couch being stoned and it scared me so bad.

00:16:22.260 I thought I had been in this room for like 15 minutes by myself. 0.99

00:16:24.820 I was like talking out loud and kind of like saying positive things to myself and shit. 0.98

00:16:29.940 And then I look over her and her dad, who was one of our teachers at our school, was 0.99

00:16:36.360 fucking standing there, dude. 0.99

00:16:39.100 Oh no. 0.99

00:16:40.400 And man, I think at that point it made me feel so like kind of introverted about when I was

00:16:46.340 stoned, you know.

00:16:47.760 And then I used to get, when I was young, me and my buddy would, we ate a bunch of no-dos

00:16:54.200 one time.

00:16:54.840 We're supposed to go pick these girls up. 1.00

00:16:56.880 No-dos?

00:16:57.320 Yeah, it was like caffeine pills, you know.

00:17:00.100 Wow.

00:17:00.300 And this is before we could get any weed, you know.

00:17:02.240 This is like, we're just like, what can we do at the convenience store?

00:17:05.360 To make us feel different than we do right now.

00:17:06.920 Yeah.

00:17:07.540 100% baby.

00:17:09.520 So, yeah, I took, we each took a pack, man.

00:17:14.280 And, or we took, we split a pack or something.

00:17:17.120 And we were supposed to pick these girls up for this date. 1.00

00:17:19.660 And we parked like by the street and we were so hot. 0.98

00:17:24.180 We just, I don't know, we could feel our hair growing and shit. 0.92

00:17:27.740 And we literally, we couldn't, we couldn't move and get out of the vehicle. 0.97

00:17:31.840 So we just looked over at these, we could see them on the porch waiting for us and shit. 0.98

00:17:35.740 And, and we just sat, we just, just sat in that car for a long time. 0.97

00:17:41.640 It's, it's a, it's like, it's a hit or miss thing, man.

00:17:44.580 Sometimes I hit it and I'm like, you know, I've written some of the, some of my biggest

00:17:48.100 songs.

00:17:48.580 Oh, really?

00:17:49.060 Yeah.

00:17:49.340 Some of the biggest songs I've ever written are right after.

00:17:53.480 Coming off of a bus.

00:17:54.240 Getting high.

00:17:55.000 Oh, yeah.

00:17:55.460 You know, it just makes me think weird.

00:17:56.980 And then, but it's so funny, like I hit that pin all the time, way too much.

00:18:02.540 And every single time I take a rip of it for 20 minutes, I'm like, I need to get my life

00:18:08.020 together.

00:18:08.580 I'm a failure.

00:18:09.560 This isn't going well. 0.98

00:18:10.640 And then after 20 minutes, I'm like, damn, I want to hit that pin again. 0.96

00:18:13.720 That was great. 0.99

00:18:14.440 You know?

00:18:14.800 But it's the paranoid thing you're talking about.

00:18:17.000 It's like every time.

00:18:18.660 Well, that's interesting though.

00:18:19.400 Cause then why would our brains be like, Hey, I want to hit it again.

00:18:22.360 Yeah.

00:18:22.780 Well, it's cause after the, the paranoid goes away, you're like, Oh, this is great.

00:18:26.980 Now remember like, it's like Wolf of Wall Street when they take the quaaludes, you know?

00:18:31.120 And like, you have to get through the phase of like, when they're moving like snails, like 1.00

00:18:35.300 you have to fuck your phone. 1.00

00:18:37.380 You know that? 1.00

00:18:38.620 It's like, once they get past that, it's like pure euphoria.

00:18:41.840 Yeah.

00:18:42.200 That's a good point, man.

00:18:43.400 It's like a, like a lesser example of that.

00:18:47.540 I'm trying to think.

00:18:48.460 I remember like, yeah, I, if I smoked weed, like I remember if I was with a chick, I felt

00:18:53.840 like it made your girlfriend feel like a new girlfriend.

00:18:56.800 I don't know.

00:18:58.040 Sure.

00:18:58.680 That was one thing that was great about it.

00:19:01.020 Dude, if you don't, if your girlfriend doesn't, it seems like the same old girlfriend and you

00:19:05.620 hit a little bit of weed, bro.

00:19:07.220 Yeah.

00:19:07.740 Surprise.

00:19:08.240 I remember one point sitting there having to guess my girlfriend's name, bro.

00:19:12.200 Yeah.

00:19:12.700 Cause I didn't know, you know?

00:19:14.080 That's a lot of, a lot of options too.

00:19:16.040 Yeah.

00:19:16.240 It's hard to get it right.

00:19:17.080 I only got one, you know?

00:19:19.240 And you can't ask her, bro. 0.99

00:19:20.740 I was looking around the house for clues and shit. 0.99

00:19:22.700 Yeah. 0.99

00:19:23.020 Reading old Valentine's and stuff.

00:19:23.940 You got to take them to Starbucks, right?

00:19:25.460 Oh yeah.

00:19:26.660 And let them order a coffee and then they put their name on the cup and that's the old

00:19:30.260 trick.

00:19:31.280 That's a great idea.

00:19:32.320 If you wake up, you don't know who she is.

00:19:33.520 You just take them to Starbucks.

00:19:34.340 Praise God, baby. 1.00

00:19:35.420 That fucking Vente for Vanessa. 1.00

00:19:38.100 Yeah. 1.00

00:19:39.400 Oh, is that what it is?

00:19:40.320 That's it, dude.

00:19:41.420 That's classic, man.

00:19:42.440 I never tried that.

00:19:43.580 That's a great trick, man.

00:19:45.600 We had a question come up with, uh, well, I'm just, this, this, today's just been a 0.99

00:19:50.500 fucking day, bro. 0.96

00:19:51.740 Uh, I'm glad to be a small part of it. 0.99

00:19:53.600 Yeah.

00:19:53.920 Yeah, dude.

00:19:54.480 Thanks for coming, man.

00:19:55.540 I appreciate it.

00:19:56.500 I'm sorry.

00:19:56.940 You catch me on such a weird time.

00:19:58.340 I almost, I was like, should I even cancel?

00:20:01.520 Yes.

00:20:01.620 I didn't want to cancel.

00:20:02.320 Cause I'm happy that you're here.

00:20:03.400 You know, I'm like the king of canceling.

00:20:05.280 So had you canceled it, I'd have been like, hell yeah, let's do it another day.

00:20:09.740 I love canceling plans.

00:20:11.060 I don't think there's anything.

00:20:12.420 There's no better relief.

00:20:14.080 You know, like when you have something, you know, like last night, had you had a dinner

00:20:17.820 you had to go through after everything that you went through yesterday, if you had something

00:20:21.280 you had to go to, you would have been there.

00:20:23.360 The point comes like an hour before we're like, dude, I don't want to go.

00:20:28.140 I actually want to stay home.

00:20:29.440 Yeah.

00:20:29.680 And like the greatest relief in the world is when you make up your mind that you don't 0.98

00:20:34.760 give a shit and you're canceling. 0.99

00:20:36.440 Oh yeah. 1.00

00:20:37.300 Like after that, then you're just like, oh, we're not going.

00:20:40.120 Oh.

00:20:40.280 You know, but it's like when you're stressing about having to go and you decide to cancel

00:20:44.740 it, it's like, it's better than any drug in the world, dude.

00:20:47.900 And that is interesting.

00:20:49.080 That is a real high canceling.

00:20:50.760 No question.

00:20:51.960 Especially if you have a good excuse.

00:20:53.800 Especially if you do.

00:20:54.680 Yeah.

00:20:55.100 I had a great one.

00:20:56.100 Yeah.

00:20:56.960 I was like, dude, I've been in a, yeah, I've been.

00:21:00.460 In an intervention, I would say that, yeah, that's a gravy one.

00:21:03.580 Usually I'm like, hey, I'm tired.

00:21:05.020 Right. 1.00

00:21:05.140 You know, and you just sound like a pussy. 1.00

00:21:07.420 Like, it's not, I'll ever have a group. 1.00

00:21:09.700 My soul was tired.

00:21:10.360 We're in there like pleading, you know, and they said it was like three hours and it was,

00:21:14.480 um, it was good, but it just, and then when you come up with an L in an intervention, you're 0.97

00:21:19.080 like, damn, you want to get the squad together? 0.55

00:21:20.780 How do we regroup? 0.99

00:21:22.140 Who do we send in next time?

00:21:24.180 Should we have done matching outfits?

00:21:25.940 Like, how do we get this right?

00:21:27.280 You know, do we need a baritone?

00:21:29.520 Like, what do we need to pull off the solid intervention?

00:21:33.720 And then had you had a dinner last night and you'd been able to cancel or cancel this podcast 0.99

00:21:37.640 today, you'd have been like, fuck. 1.00

00:21:39.140 Yeah. 1.00

00:21:39.520 I'm chilling.

00:21:40.120 I got the whole day to just screw off now, which are the best days.

00:21:44.100 That's my weed pen, dude.

00:21:45.500 Yeah.

00:21:45.760 Right there.

00:21:46.220 Canceling.

00:21:46.660 Canceling.

00:21:47.220 Yeah, dude.

00:21:47.560 It's a, it's a hidden gem among people who are very busy.

00:21:51.120 Bro, that's a great, you should do like, sometimes if one of your buddies is flipping

00:21:54.480 out about something you have to do, take his phone and be like, hey, I'm

00:21:57.260 not coming. 0.98

00:21:57.780 We're not fucking going. 0.97

00:21:58.800 Yeah, we're not coming. 0.99

00:21:59.460 Dude, I look forward to it all the time.

00:22:02.140 And then, you know, like it's, it's a blessing and a curse, right?

00:22:04.780 It's good to be busy.

00:22:05.800 Yeah. 0.99

00:22:06.340 It means you got some shit going on. 0.99

00:22:07.560 So people are expecting you to be somewhere. 0.99

00:22:08.740 It's a good thing.

00:22:09.620 Right. 0.99

00:22:10.400 But sometimes I'm just like, fuck, dude, I'm not going. 1.00

00:22:14.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:22:14.760 I don't even have an excuse.

00:22:16.240 Yeah. 0.97

00:22:16.600 I'm just not fucking going. 0.98

00:22:18.380 Dang, I can't make it. 0.97

00:22:20.440 Sorry about it.

00:22:21.300 Oh, that's beautiful.

00:22:22.680 Sorry about it.

00:22:23.560 It's my dad's birthday.

00:22:24.640 Yeah, it's my dad's birthday.

00:22:26.380 I want to make that a license plate on a car.

00:22:29.120 I'm like a cool Corvette.

00:22:30.400 Just make it my dad's birthday.

00:22:32.160 So you always be like, what does that mean?

00:22:35.280 Oh, it's my dad's birthday.

00:22:36.360 Sorry.

00:22:36.780 Yeah.

00:22:38.000 It's the greatest excuse.

00:22:40.000 Dude, that is a great excuse, man.

00:22:42.480 Wow.

00:22:42.860 Thanks, bro.

00:22:43.540 Yeah.

00:22:43.700 Now I feel much more relaxed, honestly.

00:22:46.220 Yeah.

00:22:46.660 And then the planes got delayed.

00:22:48.200 And I'm like, how do I thought about just driving or just getting a driver?

00:22:51.240 I was just like, what are we even doing?

00:22:52.820 I was in Baton Rouge, so it was just like, it was just a lot.

00:22:57.420 And it was just like, family, people had been crying.

00:23:00.720 It was just like, Jesus, you know?

00:23:02.720 Yeah.

00:23:03.040 Somebody, I thought that was going to get high because of the intervention. 0.99

00:23:06.020 I'm like, damn, I'm going to need to. 0.90

00:23:09.500 What is the drug of choice in this intervention? 0.99

00:23:11.760 I don't know.

00:23:12.340 We didn't know what they were on.

00:23:13.600 Oh, that makes it super.

00:23:14.940 That's a whole other ballgame.

00:23:17.640 That's like a guessing intervention.

00:23:19.360 It was a lot.

00:23:20.020 That's like if the members of the game Clue had to have an intervention on like Mr. Plum or something.

00:23:27.460 He'd be like, I think she's doing heroin with a needle in the laboratory, you know?

00:23:32.400 I think so.

00:23:33.980 Yeah.

00:23:34.520 I think she's doing opiates with a curling iron. 1.00

00:23:37.360 Yeah.

00:23:38.100 In the trap house.

00:23:41.520 In the trap house.

00:23:42.560 Yeah.

00:23:43.080 Dude, you're saving my day today, man.

00:23:44.660 Thank you, bro.

00:23:45.200 Thank you for making me laugh, man.

00:23:46.400 I'm glad you have made me literally cry laughing, staring at my phone.

00:23:52.300 Oh, thanks, bro.

00:23:52.940 Multiple times.

00:23:53.720 So I'm glad I could return the favor.

00:23:54.960 I appreciate it.

00:23:55.520 Yeah, man, you really are.

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00:26:24.060 So, yeah, I want to know a little bit.

00:26:29.080 So, like, you kind of have been picked as the guy.

00:26:31.260 Like, you get these, they get these accolades in the business side of music, right?

00:26:35.620 And you've had a lot of those, right?

00:26:37.420 Like, this is the guy that, you know, the pick to click, little things that rhyme, you know?

00:26:42.280 The pick to click.

00:26:43.060 Or whatever, you know what I'm saying?

00:26:44.160 Like, the, you know, like the, I don't want to say, like, the key.

00:26:52.560 I'm trying to think of a good one.

00:26:54.120 Like, you know, the next guy to shine.

00:26:56.440 You know what I'm talking about.

00:26:57.180 And a lot of them are great.

00:26:57.960 Like, you know, from, I don't know if it was the Country Music Awards that gave you, like, the top new male artists of the year, right?

00:27:04.560 The ACMs, yeah.

00:27:05.600 And congratulations.

00:27:06.760 Thanks, man.

00:27:07.220 Yeah, it's amazing.

00:27:08.240 What I'm trying to get to is, how do you get to, like, is there then some type of formula?

00:27:14.300 Is there, and what pressure comes with how to fulfill that?

00:27:18.080 Because really, it's kind of like saying, hey, bro, here's a bunch of pressure.

00:27:22.300 Yeah, no, man, no.

00:27:23.640 Or is that what it feels like?

00:27:24.620 Maybe that's my interpretation.

00:27:26.000 Not at all, dude.

00:27:27.160 The awards are cool.

00:27:28.480 You know, like, I watched the award shows as a kid.

00:27:30.960 So, it's cool to be on them.

00:27:33.520 You know, it's just kind of like, it's kind of like the stadium thing last night. 0.97

00:27:35.800 You know, you're like, damn, I used to sit out there.

00:27:38.780 Now, it's kind of the same concept, which is really cool. 0.99

00:27:41.520 But, man, and I don't know if it's a blessing or a curse, but I just don't give a shit. 0.99

00:27:49.260 Yeah. 0.99

00:27:49.640 You know, I really don't.

00:27:51.240 I just want to be as successful doing this with as much integrity and respect as I possibly can.

00:27:58.440 Trying to do it.

00:27:58.960 I've done it the hard way.

00:27:59.900 You know, like, started from the very, very, very bottom in my pickup truck, got a van, got a trailer, got a nicer van, got a tour bus, then signed a record deal.

00:28:08.520 Now, we have, like, three tour buses, 18-wheeler, the whole deal.

00:28:11.500 Did it the long, hard way how I wanted to do it.

00:28:14.640 And so, the awards are great, man.

00:28:16.560 The number one song's great.

00:28:18.280 Double platinum song, awesome.

00:28:19.900 But, it just doesn't, like, that's not what makes me feel successful, you know?

00:28:27.800 It's, they're, like, just little bonuses, I guess.

00:28:32.380 But, there's no really pressure.

00:28:34.000 I mean, you know, whether you win that award or you don't, you still got to put out another record and you still got to go on the road next weekend, you know?

00:28:41.920 So, it's, they're great.

00:28:43.460 But, I don't know.

00:28:45.700 If you're not doing it, if you're not relevant in, like, 20, I mean, you look like George Strait, dude.

00:28:48.840 He's, like, he just turned 70 and he's still selling out, like, U.S. Bank Stadium.

00:28:52.980 Yeah.

00:28:53.680 You know, I'm 29.

00:28:55.140 I just played a Cend Amphitheater in Nashville.

00:28:57.460 Yeah. 0.98

00:28:57.860 I had a long fucking way to go, dude. 0.94

00:28:59.680 So, the awards are good, but very, hopefully, the very, very beginning of the road. 0.92

00:29:05.000 And what gets you to that next, like, is there a thing, is it more, you know, because I wonder, I don't know if it translates with comedy, but it's just, like, is there some, I guess, is it a certain type of song that kind of,

00:29:18.840 like, what do you feel like you have to have then to continue to keep a trajectory then, or even a continuation of where you're at?

00:29:28.420 Man, I think, I think it's the songs.

00:29:30.040 And that's what I tell all, like, you know, it's weird now that there's, like, young guys asking me stuff, because I was always the young guy asking the stuff.

00:29:36.360 And now I got these younger kids asking me for advice and stuff. 0.99

00:29:39.940 And I'm like, dude, if you don't have the songs, you're fucked. 1.00

00:29:44.180 Yeah. 0.99

00:29:44.520 Like, you may have a good, you may have a big single on country radio.

00:29:48.600 I mean, if you have songs, you can sell tickets, and that's how you tour and have a career, right?

00:29:53.920 So, that's, like, the biggest thing, man.

00:29:56.300 You got to have, you got to have, you got to write and have the best songs.

00:30:00.000 Like, Garth Brooks.

00:30:00.740 I mean, mega hits, George Strait, mega hits, Tim McGraw, any genre.

00:30:07.200 And, you know, country music really probably has the most longevity of any genre, it seems like.

00:30:12.140 You know, like, rap and pop music, like, you don't see a lot of 50-year-olds still killing a game and popping rap.

00:30:17.180 People get murdered all the time.

00:30:18.740 Yeah, a lot of dying.

00:30:20.780 You know, it's like, yeah, it's not like every couple of weeks, you know, a young Tim McGraw gets gunned down somewhere.

00:30:27.440 No.

00:30:28.120 You know?

00:30:28.640 Dude, he probably, you've seen him?

00:30:30.680 Have you seen Tim McGraw lately?

00:30:32.000 I've just seen him in that show, 1832.

00:30:34.260 The bullet would probably bounce off of Tim McGraw.

00:30:36.020 He's jacked, huh? 0.99

00:30:36.780 Dude, he's nasty ripped. 0.86

00:30:38.660 Really?

00:30:39.080 Yeah, dude.

00:30:39.780 Go look at his Instagram.

00:30:41.460 He's, like, 50.

00:30:42.700 God, yeah.

00:30:43.120 And would just piece me up.

00:30:44.880 Bring him up there.

00:30:45.640 Let me see that man.

00:30:46.900 Trevin.

00:30:47.780 He is a seriously.

00:30:49.240 God.

00:30:51.740 I wish I was, uh, Tim McGraw is his name.

00:30:55.300 Tim McGraw, dude.

00:30:57.380 Oh, gee.

00:30:57.920 He's also a future Hall of Famer in the game of life, probably.

00:31:00.780 Oh, this guy?

00:31:02.160 Yeah.

00:31:02.580 I saw him in 1832.

00:31:05.940 He's, um.

00:31:08.620 There was a good, there was a good picture.

00:31:10.500 Just.

00:31:10.700 But can you just go to his Instagram, brother?

00:31:12.220 He's nasty ripped, though, dude.

00:31:16.840 Like, nobody's gunning him down, you know? 0.70

00:31:18.920 Yeah.

00:31:20.400 I feel like they could gun me down pretty easy.

00:31:22.400 Really?

00:31:22.740 Especially if I was, if I had hit the pin already.

00:31:25.560 Probably easy target.

00:31:26.680 Moving slow.

00:31:27.840 When you, if you get off stage, here he is right here, dude.

00:31:30.960 Yeah.

00:31:31.220 I mean, he's making a million dollars on stage that night.

00:31:47.020 And he's out there working out at 11 a.m.

00:31:50.020 Oh, wow.

00:31:54.540 He's doing that.

00:31:55.100 Look at that.

00:31:57.420 Oh, look at that.

00:31:58.740 I mean, what a G, dude.

00:32:01.780 And you're going home to Faith Hill and you look like that?

00:32:04.100 Come on, dude.

00:32:05.160 You gotta really care.

00:32:06.300 I would have mirrors all over.

00:32:07.440 That's good.

00:32:08.460 I'd have just mirrors in my house. 0.99

00:32:10.060 I'd get rid of the damn wallpaper. 1.00

00:32:11.480 Yeah. 1.00

00:32:12.060 Nothing but mirrors.

00:32:12.820 I want to look at me, baby.

00:32:13.720 Oh, yeah.

00:32:14.480 Uh-huh.

00:32:15.560 I want to look at a little bit of extra time.

00:32:17.260 Sit down for dinner, dear Lord.

00:32:18.500 I'd like to say grace and let everybody thank you for me.

00:32:20.860 Amen.

00:32:21.440 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:32:23.460 Take the A and the N out of it, baby. 0.96

00:32:25.680 Me.

00:32:26.400 Me.

00:32:27.560 There's no I in amen, but there's a me.

00:32:29.480 You just pray.

00:32:30.580 Yeah, there is, baby.

00:32:33.140 There's a me in amen.

00:32:34.160 Thank you, Lord, for me.

00:32:35.420 Yeah.

00:32:36.400 Yeah, man.

00:32:38.260 Do you have a routine when you're out there on the road?

00:32:41.780 What's that like for you?

00:32:42.880 Nah, man. 0.69

00:32:43.420 Super lame.

00:32:44.460 Yeah.

00:32:44.800 Super bummer.

00:32:45.480 I either wake up and play golf or I try to go to a gym and work out.

00:32:49.380 Not like old Timmy over there.

00:32:52.220 I like to go.

00:32:53.120 I like to go and put a lot of weight on either side of the bar and sit there for like 20 minutes

00:32:58.880 on my phone and I'll just take the weight off and go back to the bus.

00:33:03.700 But I play a lot of golf on the road, dude.

00:33:05.480 Oh, really?

00:33:05.960 Yeah.

00:33:06.120 Nate Bargatze is a comedian who plays golf.

00:33:08.500 He is phenomenally funny.

00:33:10.900 Yeah, he's very funny.

00:33:11.800 He is unbelievably hilarious.

00:33:13.180 But that's kind of the cool thing about touring is, I mean, you're in a different city every

00:33:17.620 day.

00:33:18.120 Right.

00:33:18.720 So you can play a different golf course every day.

00:33:20.380 Now, some days you're playing like these really nice country clubs that you're not

00:33:25.540 even good enough to be playing at.

00:33:26.760 And then the next day you'll be in like Albuquerque, New Mexico playing like Antler Hole.

00:33:30.620 Yeah.

00:33:30.900 It's a community golf course and it's solid dirt.

00:33:34.220 Oh, yeah.

00:33:34.680 It's a halfway house. 0.99

00:33:35.720 There's meetings and stuff going on.

00:33:37.180 There's 12-step meetings on the fairway.

00:33:39.500 Yes.

00:33:39.900 Do you?

00:33:40.340 Have you played Albuquerque?

00:33:42.060 Yeah.

00:33:42.440 We just played there a couple weeks ago.

00:33:44.280 Or maybe we were in Las Cruces or Albuquerque, something like that.

00:33:46.560 Let's discuss it.

00:33:48.120 There's not a lot going on out there.

00:33:49.680 Albuquerque is unbelievable, bro.

00:33:53.100 Dude, everybody at the gas station had a parole officer with them.

00:33:56.700 Yeah.

00:33:57.700 With them, dude.

00:33:58.640 It was like.

00:33:59.560 It's like the wild, wild west out there, dude.

00:34:01.400 It totally is, bro.

00:34:02.560 Like Will Smith and whoever was in that movie with him is going to roll up on that little

00:34:05.980 spider leg deal any minute.

00:34:07.860 Yeah.

00:34:08.320 It's almost like if I saw a drug dealer, I would be at least happy to be seeing a business

00:34:12.320 person.

00:34:12.780 Yeah.

00:34:13.180 Yeah. 0.95

00:34:13.560 A hustler. 0.83

00:34:14.500 Yeah.

00:34:14.760 Like, oh man, glad to meet somebody with an LLC here, you know?

00:34:18.100 It is.

00:34:20.820 Drugs Incorporated.

00:34:22.380 Bro, I just never been to anything like that.

00:34:26.740 I didn't know what was going on, you know, and they were, and I was talking about this

00:34:30.640 the other day, but they're always like talking about the aliens and stuff.

00:34:33.860 I was just about to say that.

00:34:34.980 It's like the drugs got to be good out there because they're seeing UFOs we're not seeing

00:34:38.720 anywhere else and you don't have any video footage of them.

00:34:41.620 It's like all of a sudden everybody has a camera in their pocket and we're not seeing

00:34:43.940 any videos of these UFOs.

00:34:45.400 Because the aliens are the people there.

00:34:49.460 We may be the aliens.

00:34:50.920 It's not us, bro.

00:34:52.340 We're passing through.

00:34:53.380 You think only the citizens of Albuquerque?

00:34:55.080 We're coming to the zoo to visit.

00:34:57.480 I like that.

00:34:57.980 You know, and it's not, I'm not saying it's the citizens, but it's, there is, there are

00:35:03.060 easily aliens or, you know, bots or what, I don't know what they're called, drug bots.

00:35:10.440 I don't know what you'd call them in Albuquerque, but they are woven into the fabric of the species

00:35:15.600 there.

00:35:16.160 Maybe that's how they're getting that stuff into the United States.

00:35:18.500 I mean, there is, it's definitely some, there's fentanyl in the DNA over there.

00:35:24.260 They're sucking people up into that UFO and they're dropping down kilos of coke and all

00:35:29.600 kinds of stuff.

00:35:30.060 Maybe that's how it rolls out there.

00:35:31.860 I wouldn't, there's a, I wouldn't be surprised if they are, it's like a, it's like a Greyhound

00:35:37.300 station for UFOs, I think.

00:35:39.180 That's a great, I mean, it's, I'll tell you this, it's not somewhere, it wouldn't be on

00:35:42.100 the top of the list of places to retire.

00:35:43.820 You know, if someone told me that they're retiring and headed to Albuquerque to live

00:35:50.140 out their days, I'd be like, are you in prison?

00:35:53.700 You know, did you just catch a large sentence?

00:35:56.680 And that's what you mean by, yeah, this is my federal retirement.

00:36:00.620 Yeah.

00:36:00.840 Cause I think, uh, yeah, dude, it just blew my mind.

00:36:04.360 Cause we went to the gas station.

00:36:05.660 There was a lot going on, you know, a guy in there is like promising the lady, he's like,

00:36:09.840 hold my cell phone and let me pump as much gas.

00:36:12.780 Then I'll come back and get my cell phone from you.

00:36:14.800 And she's like, that's not a deal for us.

00:36:16.420 She's like, I have to give you your cell phone back and you get gas. 0.80

00:36:19.280 But he like, didn't understand the deal.

00:36:21.060 And then this is all just at a guy, we're like at a pilot or a loves or something, you

00:36:24.400 know?

00:36:24.920 And then there's this other guy walking around like this, like with his arms, like above

00:36:28.840 his head, you know, like that.

00:36:30.100 And, uh, and he's talking, and he had a parole officer with him.

00:36:38.860 And it was just like, I've seen the backstroke and I've seen the front stroke, but this was

00:36:43.180 just, this guy was like, dog, dog, dog, dog, dog, dog.

00:36:48.000 That's all he said, bro.

00:36:49.180 He was like, I think he worked for Peter or something, you know?

00:36:51.720 It was good alien drugs.

00:36:52.660 Oh, dude, I'm like, this dude is definitely this guy's like, they, they got to start

00:36:58.620 putting, uh, birth control in the heroin.

00:37:01.640 I think that's what they got to do.

00:37:03.140 They may not, you may be onto something there.

00:37:05.200 Cause it's, I feel like that's getting out of hand.

00:37:07.100 There's a lot of people nowadays.

00:37:08.560 Yeah.

00:37:08.680 There's a lot going on.

00:37:09.960 Um, I haven't considered taking it.

00:37:12.540 Really?

00:37:13.120 No.

00:37:13.800 Oh.

00:37:15.480 Did it ever, I always wanted to smoke crack, honestly.

00:37:17.700 It's an honest thing.

00:37:18.540 And after seeing Wolf of Wall Street, I did want to.

00:37:20.580 Did you? 1.00

00:37:21.020 Fucking smoke crack with me, bro. 1.00

00:37:22.240 Oh, lions. 1.00

00:37:22.980 And you know that scene?

00:37:24.060 Yeah.

00:37:24.420 I never wanted to smoke crack until I saw that video.

00:37:27.040 God, yeah.

00:37:27.520 Until I saw that movie.

00:37:28.820 Man, they look, man, they make it look great, dude.

00:37:30.400 God, they do.

00:37:31.160 Yeah.

00:37:31.700 And they're just super rich and they're dressed really nice, smoking crack.

00:37:34.880 I'm like, I know for, you know, the long game.

00:37:37.960 Yeah.

00:37:38.460 That's probably not the play.

00:37:40.100 Yeah.

00:37:40.320 But for the immediate, like, 24 to 48 hours, if you had a hundred million dollars in

00:37:44.260 a nice suit, like, let's say you had like 48 hours to live, I'm smoking crack.

00:37:49.680 When are you going to do it though?

00:37:50.580 In the beginning or at the end of the 48 hours?

00:37:53.740 Maybe like the last six hours.

00:37:55.320 I heard it lasts a long time.

00:37:57.060 Yeah.

00:37:57.940 So, you know, go like skydive and then maybe even smoke crack on the way down before you

00:38:04.000 land.

00:38:04.320 Oh, it'd be so hard.

00:38:06.560 You'd have to get in like a little box or something to be able to probably light it in

00:38:09.900 there.

00:38:10.980 Oh, dude.

00:38:11.220 They have to have pens by nowadays.

00:38:12.820 Oh, that's true.

00:38:13.400 Huh?

00:38:13.580 Crack pen.

00:38:14.260 Crack pen.

00:38:15.200 Dude, I got, I was at a smoothie place in Maui.

00:38:18.160 This dude's like, Hey, you want to do some DMT, right?

00:38:20.420 I'd never done it.

00:38:21.700 Did you do it?

00:38:22.620 Yeah.

00:38:23.300 And?

00:38:24.100 And, uh.

00:38:24.880 It's incredible.

00:38:26.280 Yeah.

00:38:26.740 It was crazy.

00:38:27.540 Well, this guy takes me back to his house with his wife and there's children running around.

00:38:31.620 And then that is not ideal.

00:38:33.100 Yeah.

00:38:33.460 That was a bit much.

00:38:34.380 I was like, are you sure this is the place to do it?

00:38:36.140 That's not good.

00:38:36.940 And they're like, sure.

00:38:38.000 You know?

00:38:38.880 And, um, they had like this little dish of macadamia nuts.

00:38:41.640 I remember.

00:38:42.300 And I love those.

00:38:43.280 And so I took that as like a sign.

00:38:44.640 Like, I mean, you know, you know, everything probably going pretty good.

00:38:48.160 And, uh, and I hit it, man.

00:38:50.260 And it was, yeah, it was definitely, I mean, I went out there, you know, I was like, I remember

00:38:56.760 feeling like I was at like, I kind of went into the speaker at like a drive-thru, like

00:39:02.400 a, like a, like a drive-thru food place, like a Sonic or something. 0.98

00:39:06.040 I went into the speaker and then I fucking worked at a footlocker. 0.96

00:39:09.000 I remember. 0.98

00:39:09.900 I remember getting out there.

00:39:11.220 It doesn't last very long.

00:39:12.700 No, it lasts, I don't know, maybe six, seven minutes.

00:39:15.240 Yeah.

00:39:15.660 What was your experience like?

00:39:17.280 Man.

00:39:18.540 And where were you?

00:39:19.860 I was in Austin, Texas.

00:39:21.040 I was living on UT's West Campus, University of Texas West Campus at the time.

00:39:25.100 I was not enrolled in school.

00:39:26.180 Not enrolled.

00:39:27.040 I was writing that first record, the limestone kid I put out. 1.00

00:39:30.520 And, uh, there was actually, um, this kid from India who was a chemist that we had gone

00:39:36.440 to high school with that was, was majoring in chemistry at, uh, University of Texas.

00:39:40.720 Dang.

00:39:41.340 And, uh, he had like ordered the bark from like the Amazon rainforest or wherever that, whatever

00:39:46.820 chemical that they get for the DMT.

00:39:48.660 Yeah.

00:39:49.420 And, uh, and.

00:39:51.600 And the bark came in?

00:39:52.440 He made it like in his, and now looking back, I'm like.

00:39:56.180 That, like our thought, my thought process that day probably should have taken a little

00:40:00.280 longer.

00:40:01.660 Um, but a buddy of mine was in town and he was like, Hey, let's go over to this house.

00:40:05.040 And then this, he's like, he's incredibly smart.

00:40:08.400 This kid that we went to high school with and he's a chemistry major. 0.99

00:40:10.360 And he made the shit in his dorm room and everybody took a little hit. 0.99

00:40:14.520 And I crawled out on the fire escape. 0.99

00:40:16.340 It was like a Monday morning at 8 a.m.

00:40:18.280 And I like saw myself as a kid.

00:40:23.020 Like I saw a little, like five-year-old me running across our front yard in the house

00:40:26.900 I grew up in.

00:40:28.740 And then all of a sudden it was back.

00:40:29.880 And I felt amazing afterwards.

00:40:31.600 It was like just complete.

00:40:32.780 Did you feel that way afterwards?

00:40:34.200 I felt a little spooked out.

00:40:35.700 For y'all that don't know what DMT is, it's the chemical in your brain that makes you dream.

00:40:39.260 Like we talked about smoking crack.

00:40:40.680 DMT is not crack.

00:40:41.920 Yeah, no.

00:40:42.520 Just for the listeners.

00:40:43.620 Yeah.

00:40:44.280 It's probably the opposite of it.

00:40:45.300 Yeah.

00:40:45.500 It's like, can't harm you.

00:40:47.000 I would recommend everybody one time in their life does that.

00:40:49.900 Cause it's like, it's very, I think it's a good thing.

00:40:54.240 Yeah.

00:40:54.640 It gave me a, it's not like a hardcore drug.

00:40:56.380 No.

00:40:56.760 Right.

00:40:57.020 Yeah.

00:40:57.340 Yeah.

00:40:57.620 You're probably not going to see somebody like, you know, you're not going to get it

00:40:59.980 in like a back alley or something, you know, there's not going to be a shooting

00:41:02.580 over DMT, but it's a crazy, it was wild dude.

00:41:06.400 And then like a few minutes and you're out of it.

00:41:08.340 And I was, and felt totally normal.

00:41:09.540 It felt great, dude.

00:41:10.760 Just like on cloud nine.

00:41:12.620 Man.

00:41:13.600 Yeah.

00:41:13.880 I think, I don't remember.

00:41:14.940 I did it then later.

00:41:16.180 Cause then I got it.

00:41:16.920 I was like, I want to do it again.

00:41:18.820 Cause I thought I could get to the next level.

00:41:20.700 It was like a video game or something.

00:41:22.120 I'm like, Oh, I can't, I want to beat that level.

00:41:24.020 See, I've been different.

00:41:24.860 Like all that kind of stuff, like any kind of psychedelics or anything.

00:41:27.520 I just like one or two times and I'm out.

00:41:30.460 I think they're my, I think that like, that's what those should be.

00:41:33.580 Like people who like, like I had buddies that would eat mushrooms like all the time.

00:41:38.020 Yeah.

00:41:38.340 And I'm like, I don't think those are for that.

00:41:41.680 Right.

00:41:42.160 You know, like Welch's grapefruit snacks, 10, 15 packs, no problem.

00:41:48.140 But mushrooms probably, probably don't want to buy the box of those, you know, just a

00:41:53.780 one-time, two-time deal.

00:41:56.120 Yeah.

00:41:56.420 Yeah.

00:41:56.720 That's interesting, man.

00:41:58.480 Yeah.

00:41:58.620 I think everything's kind of like that, you know, but yeah, I remember that DMT man.

00:42:02.440 And then we went outside and did it and it was like in a park and then people were recognizing

00:42:06.200 when we were leaving.

00:42:06.980 And I felt like I could see kind of skeletons a little and that wasn't good.

00:42:10.600 So I don't think I want to do that again.

00:42:12.740 And, you know, skeletons, dude, you want it to be happy.

00:42:15.200 You want it to be positive.

00:42:16.740 I want to stay on the joyous side of things.

00:42:18.320 Yes.

00:42:19.040 We had a question that came in about partying and stuff on the tour.

00:42:21.280 Can we get to that?

00:42:25.040 Yeah.

00:42:25.360 I'm sorry.

00:42:25.880 It's all out in here.

00:42:26.420 Jesus.

00:42:26.880 I don't know what happened.

00:42:27.880 At least you can call Guinness Book of World Records and say we just did the hottest podcast

00:42:33.300 of all time.

00:42:36.080 It's got to be 80 degrees.

00:42:36.800 Dude, we should go do one in the Sahara Desert and really set the record.

00:42:40.080 Get Rufus DeSalle to play?

00:42:41.460 Mm-hmm.

00:42:42.940 Do it in Albuquerque.

00:42:44.300 Oh, dude.

00:42:45.540 You could do it in Albuquerque. 0.99

00:42:46.980 The fuck is somebody left the oven on up in Albuquerque. 1.00

00:42:49.600 It's been on for 100,000 years out there, dude. 1.00

00:42:52.760 Yeah.

00:42:53.720 They don't even have like bushes and stuff.

00:42:55.360 It's so hot.

00:42:55.920 Dude, they got people there.

00:42:57.840 Yeah, they got a dude with two tongues and he'll be standing there talking to a dude with no tongues.

00:43:02.940 And you're like, this is insane, bro.

00:43:04.660 Do you have his tongue? 1.00

00:43:06.180 This is damn serpentry, bro. 1.00

00:43:07.780 Are both of those yours? 1.00

00:43:08.640 Let's play that up, buddy.

00:43:11.080 Theo, Parker, huge fan of both of you guys.

00:43:13.660 Absolutely insane to see you doing a podcast together.

00:43:15.940 Very, very excited for it.

00:43:17.780 My question is for Parker.

00:43:19.320 I'm a Texas guy, born and raised.

00:43:22.760 Been a huge fan of the more Texas style of country music, you know.

00:43:27.360 And you kind of hear a lot of tall tales, a lot of speculation, a lot of crazy stories about you and Coe Wetzel on these tours doing crazy stuff, doing just all kinds of shenanigans. 0.86

00:43:39.860 I'm wondering if we can get a story or two out of you, some crazy shit you and Coe have done. 0.51

00:43:44.200 That'd be really, really cool to hear coming from a fan. 0.97

00:43:47.200 Thanks, guys.

00:43:47.880 Gang, gang.

00:43:48.640 Gang, baby. 0.75

00:43:49.400 Yeah, Coe is unbelievable, dude.

00:43:50.820 Coe is like a disco ball in a cowboy boot.

00:43:56.560 He's really, he's one of a kind.

00:43:59.060 I want him to come on here.

00:44:00.380 I think he's going to at some point.

00:44:01.480 A true future Hall of Famer in the game of life, that young man. 0.98

00:44:05.420 Fucking spark my fire, dude. 0.96

00:44:06.960 He really does it. 0.99

00:44:07.880 He's great, man.

00:44:08.560 And it kind of bugs me sometimes because, you know, people overlook how good of a singer he is.

00:44:15.400 Because his show, it's all about, you know, so hardcore rock and roll.

00:44:18.720 It's such an entertaining show. 0.96

00:44:21.160 And no one ever talks about how just fucking good of a singer. 0.82

00:44:23.980 Like, his voice is incredible. 0.95

00:44:25.520 He's such a good singer. 0.99

00:44:26.340 The first time I ever met him and heard him sing, I'm like, I'm fucked. 0.98

00:44:30.320 Very unique. 0.99

00:44:31.480 Yeah, dude.

00:44:32.140 And incredibly creative.

00:44:34.200 And if I was a fan, I would be a huge fan.

00:44:37.580 If I was just a fan, I would be a huge fan of his.

00:44:39.600 Because he is like, he gives those people 110% of Coe Wetzel. 0.89

00:44:44.640 Oh, he's too, I mean, he's almost.

00:44:46.920 And the sweetest guy in the world, dude.

00:44:48.520 He's very, he's extremely, he's so generous.

00:44:50.400 Yes.

00:44:50.740 I mean, he's just an East Texas boy, dude.

00:44:52.340 That's how it rolls out there, man.

00:44:54.700 A lot of, just very well raised.

00:44:57.560 But as far as, oh man, crazy stories.

00:45:00.040 Yeah, there's one in particular that comes to mind.

00:45:06.540 Man, I hadn't thought about this in a long time.

00:45:09.620 We were playing in Waco, Texas.

00:45:12.620 And it's a place called The Backyard.

00:45:15.300 And we used to do this acoustic tour during Christmas time, him and I.

00:45:19.200 And even before we had tour buses, like first year we did it, we were just in a van together.

00:45:24.440 And we do like, you know, six nights the week before Christmas, it's acoustic, go play bars, you know.

00:45:30.600 And it's like the level of entertainment was just unbelievably underwhelming.

00:45:35.940 Because we were just so messed up every night by the time we got on stage.

00:45:38.620 It was a lot of fun.

00:45:39.500 And the first year we ever did it, we played in Waco at the backyard.

00:45:43.700 And before we even went on stage, I mean, we were floored, dude.

00:45:48.160 Like, I mean, I don't even remember being on stage.

00:45:50.460 Yeah.

00:45:50.740 And after the show, he wanted to go to the titty bar.

00:45:57.540 And I don't know if you've ever been to the titty bar in Waco, but it's smaller than this room.

00:46:02.700 There's like two dancers.

00:46:05.120 And that's never been my thing.

00:46:07.300 I've never been a fan of the – I never wanted to have to pay to touch, you know what I mean?

00:46:12.020 But Coe loves them.

00:46:13.420 Loves them, dude.

00:46:14.260 And he may be buried in one of those one day.

00:46:17.320 Oh, he looks like he loves a titty.

00:46:18.560 Yeah, he loves a good titty.

00:46:19.360 And I have no disrespect.

00:46:21.840 I cast no judgment.

00:46:23.060 Oh, no, look.

00:46:24.220 If I've got to go in one to get to where I'm going, I don't mind passing through, you know? 0.97

00:46:28.180 Yeah.

00:46:29.540 But we come off stage.

00:46:30.680 He wanted to go there.

00:46:32.000 And so we – I don't know who drove us, an Uber or somebody drove us.

00:46:36.440 It's the worst – it's like Hall of Fame, not Hall of Fame.

00:46:42.240 Yeah.

00:46:42.800 You know, worst Hall of Fame ever, titty bar.

00:46:44.720 Bad titty bar.

00:46:45.660 Yeah, really bad.

00:46:46.200 A lot of scoliosis, I know that.

00:46:47.820 Yeah, and so we go in there and we have a few shots and we don't even – we didn't

00:46:52.880 even like no girls dance or anything.

00:46:54.880 We're in there for like 30 seconds and he orders a drink and the room's very small.

00:46:59.340 And he picks the drink up in a glass and just slams it against the mirror on the wall and 0.99

00:47:05.780 just shatters fucking everywhere. 0.97

00:47:08.220 And I'm like, dude, we're literally – we're either going to jail or we're going to die. 0.99

00:47:12.560 Like it was a scary situation. 0.99

00:47:15.760 And he just doesn't give a fuck, dude. 0.99

00:47:17.620 Like he is just – like it's his titty bar. 0.99

00:47:20.200 Well, so they kick us out and we have to go out into the parking lot.

00:47:22.540 We don't have a ride.

00:47:23.680 We don't have anywhere to go.

00:47:24.720 It's like 1.30 in the morning in Waco.

00:47:27.580 And it's like a Tuesday night, you know, the first night of that tour.

00:47:31.780 Starting off hard.

00:47:33.120 Well, dude, I'm like – I'm sitting there.

00:47:34.580 I'm like fucked up on my phone trying to like find a way to get us out of there.

00:47:38.560 And I look over and he's in the road on all fours crawling at oncoming traffic. 1.00

00:47:45.380 Damn, boy. 1.00

00:47:46.280 True fucking story. 1.00

00:47:47.520 And I'm like – I'm sitting there. 1.00

00:47:48.980 I'm like, oh my God, he's going to hit by a fucking car. 1.00

00:47:50.900 But I'm too fucked up to do anything. 1.00

00:47:52.220 Yeah. 0.99

00:47:53.020 So –

00:47:53.820 That's like Pamplona.

00:47:54.860 Yes.

00:47:55.240 And so eventually he, you know, he gets up off of the road and somehow or another somebody came and got us and took us back to the venue.

00:48:01.420 And the venue has like this apartment you stay at. 0.99

00:48:04.340 We go in the fucking apartment. 1.00

00:48:05.240 He starts kicking holes in the wall. 1.00

00:48:06.560 And he's like screaming at me in the face to kick a hole in the wall. 0.77

00:48:09.880 I don't want to kick a hole in the wall. 0.99

00:48:11.120 And he's like, you're not fucking going to bed until you kick a hole in the wall. 0.99

00:48:13.760 So I have to kick a hole in the wall. 1.00

00:48:15.100 Oh, damn, bro. 1.00

00:48:16.700 And I get – so I get real, you know, even more fucked up. 1.00

00:48:20.320 And I end up laying on this little air mattress. 0.98

00:48:22.540 And all of my clothes.

00:48:23.800 And I wake up at like 5.30 in the morning.

00:48:25.920 Co is still awake.

00:48:26.680 And he's yanking my boots off.

00:48:27.940 And he's just going, I'll never let you sleep in your boots, B.

00:48:30.620 I'll never let you sleep in – and just yanking my clothes off of me. 0.98

00:48:33.320 And I'm like –

00:48:33.880 Like Vietnam or something.

00:48:34.980 I'm like, dude.

00:48:36.060 That was like one of the first times him and I had been on the road together.

00:48:38.520 And I was like, this guy means business.

00:48:41.720 He's one of my best friends in the world, dude.

00:48:42.940 I love him. 0.97

00:48:43.960 I would take a bullet for him any day of the week. 0.80

00:48:46.980 He's a hero. 0.99

00:48:47.880 I mean, he is like beloved by people.

00:48:50.100 Yeah, dude.

00:48:50.660 He's – well, dude, when you go that hard and you give that much of yourself to those

00:48:54.400 people every night, you know, you're going to get that in return.

00:48:57.860 Yeah.

00:48:58.300 I mean, he definitely – I mean, like there's something about him where he will give – he

00:49:04.500 give everything he had.

00:49:05.380 He give you all the blood out of his body.

00:49:06.940 100%.

00:49:07.340 He's just – dude, he is a great dude.

00:49:09.080 And I – and everything that kind of surrounds him and his brand and his vibe and everything,

00:49:14.440 I just – I mean, I don't even think people understand or appreciate just how like good 0.96

00:49:18.400 naturally of a fucking – he can just belt. 0.98

00:49:21.320 Yeah. 1.00

00:49:21.740 Like we get fucked up seeing Frank Sinatra and he can just rip it. 0.97

00:49:26.020 It's really impressive. 0.99

00:49:27.600 Yeah, he's got a – I mean, yeah, he gives the blood right out of his body.

00:49:31.200 How much blood is even in a body, I wonder?

00:49:33.020 How much blood is in a body in there, Kevin?

00:49:34.460 You pull that up?

00:49:35.140 Like five or six liters maybe?

00:49:37.520 Is it liters? 0.99

00:49:38.200 It's damn, huh? 0.99

00:49:39.000 We've gained it. 1.00

00:49:41.400 I mean, I'll tell you, global warming's not affecting that shit, huh? 0.99

00:49:44.220 How many liters are in a gallon? 0.99

00:49:46.500 See, that's the problem.

00:49:47.600 They give you all these charts.

00:49:48.820 Approximately 1.2 to 1.5 gallons.

00:49:51.900 Okay.

00:49:52.100 So that's like – you think about a gallon of water.

00:49:55.500 That's just one and a half of those?

00:49:57.440 That's crazy to think that's all that's in us, huh?

00:49:59.280 I would have thought that was way more.

00:50:01.020 I thought like a little half a baby pool.

00:50:03.500 Half of a baby pool of blood.

00:50:05.100 I wonder if that's ever been a thing, if that's ever – has there ever been a baby pool full of blood?

00:50:12.380 I would hope not.

00:50:14.000 God, I hope not.

00:50:15.680 But yeah, I mean, I don't know if I get –

00:50:18.600 Yeah, it's definitely –

00:50:19.900 Here you come, better find out.

00:50:21.040 We are on the last leg of production staff here as they Google baby pool full of blood, baby.

00:50:28.840 That's awesome.

00:50:30.440 So how do you get to that part where, you know, you're just learning about music,

00:50:35.680 and then you get to the part where you and co are going out and touring together?

00:50:39.360 How do you – just get me through some of that timeline just for our listeners.

00:50:43.000 I put out my first record, The Limestone Kid, in 2015, and I had a song called Meet You in the Middle

00:50:52.920 that kind of blew up off of it, and I had a Twitter message.

00:50:58.820 I had, like, just gotten a Twitter, and it was from this guy named Coe Wetzel,

00:51:01.680 and he was like, hey, man, I like your stuff.

00:51:03.380 You know, let's haul it.

00:51:04.140 Let's write sometime or whatever.

00:51:05.920 And I mentioned it back.

00:51:06.780 I was like, yeah, you know, whatever.

00:51:07.660 I'd love to.

00:51:08.800 And this is, like, 2014, 2015-something.

00:51:12.240 And I actually ended up meeting this guy named Jake Murphy,

00:51:14.960 who's one of Coe and I's greatest friends, also a future Hall of Famer in the game of life,

00:51:20.540 one of my favorite humans on earth.

00:51:22.140 And he was buddies with Coe, and he had started to roll on the road with me.

00:51:26.040 He was tour managing for me at the time.

00:51:28.520 And he was like, man, you've got to meet my buddy Coe.

00:51:30.220 And I'm like, dude, I think he messaged me one time on Twitter.

00:51:32.520 I think he's a singer too, right?

00:51:33.940 And he's like, yeah, he's really good.

00:51:35.020 And so the first time we ever hung out, we went fishing.

00:51:39.760 I think, I want to say it was on, like, the Leon River or something in Stephenville,

00:51:43.040 whatever the name of that creek or river was.

00:51:45.040 And it was, like, us three people in the smallest John boat that has ever been made.

00:51:49.500 And we were fishing, and the river had flooded.

00:51:52.560 We almost just had a great time and started hanging out.

00:51:56.200 And, you know, I mean, we just kind of ran around with the same people.

00:51:59.680 And I was kind of rolling a little bit at the time.

00:52:03.080 I had a little bit of steam going in Texas. 0.99

00:52:05.420 And obviously when I met him, I was like, dude, he's so fucking good. 0.70

00:52:08.540 I was like, people got to know, you know.

00:52:10.120 So I was trying to kind of, you know, whatever I could do for them.

00:52:14.140 And they didn't need my help whatsoever.

00:52:15.760 Like, they were raw.

00:52:17.860 There was no question they were going to be big time.

00:52:20.300 But me and him just became really good friends.

00:52:23.200 And we were kind of the only two in our circle when we started to see a little bit of success

00:52:28.520 that kind of understood, you know, kind of the things that were going through our minds, 0.97

00:52:32.380 the shit we were dealing with and stuff. 0.75

00:52:33.480 And so that's really kind of where I think we became really good friends 1.00

00:52:36.980 was we kind of had each other to be like, yo, you know, talk about your shit. 1.00

00:52:41.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:52:41.320 Yeah.

00:52:41.480 And so, I mean, it was, I don't know, probably a year or two later,

00:52:46.700 I was sitting at my house in Austin working on that next record.

00:52:50.400 And he called me and he's like, hey, man, I wrote this song called Love.

00:52:53.880 Would you want to finish it, write the last verse and sing it? 0.98

00:52:57.220 And I was like, yeah, do you mind if I kill her? 0.93

00:52:59.360 And he's like, no, that'd be great. 0.94

00:53:00.600 So I wrote the last verse of Love.

00:53:02.560 Like, right there, I think I was still on the phone with him.

00:53:04.400 I was like, what do you think about this?

00:53:05.180 He's like, yeah, it's great.

00:53:05.840 Let's cut it.

00:53:06.360 And we went in and cut it.

00:53:07.120 And it was a huge song for him and did a lot for me, too.

00:53:10.140 I got way too much credit for that song, more than I deserved, certainly.

00:53:13.120 That whole, he really deserves all the credit for that.

00:53:15.380 I just killed her in the little small verse at the end.

00:53:18.680 And, man, it was like the second that song came out, it was like, all right, 0.94

00:53:23.520 get ready to be a rock star.

00:53:24.540 Because, I mean, there was no question in my mind he was going to be a superstar.

00:53:27.700 So I love him, dude.

00:53:29.140 He's one of, I would, I'd take a bullet for him any day of the week.

00:53:31.540 People love him. 0.96

00:53:32.940 I get a lot of requests.

00:53:34.480 A lot of people ask me about him, just spending time with him.

00:53:36.440 I got to go to the Super Bowl with him.

00:53:37.780 And, dude, we had such a good time.

00:53:41.480 I mean, he's just so much fun.

00:53:44.960 And he's just so dang lovable.

00:53:46.840 Yeah.

00:53:47.200 He's just such a good dude, man.

00:53:48.860 I mean, I think people see him and, you know, the way he looks and the way he acts on stage

00:53:54.880 and stuff.

00:53:55.540 And they probably think that's like, you know, like he wakes up in the morning and is just

00:54:00.320 like that way.

00:54:02.080 But, I mean, he's really just a good dude, man.

00:54:04.100 He's got a huge heart.

00:54:05.240 And, I mean, just a good person.

00:54:07.100 I love his family.

00:54:07.920 He comes from good people.

00:54:08.980 He's a lot of heart.

00:54:09.860 I bet he has more than five leaders in him.

00:54:11.900 A hundred percent.

00:54:12.580 Way more than a baby pool, good old.

00:54:13.860 I think he's a six-liter man.

00:54:16.520 I think he has an album cover or something in a baby pool now that I think about it. 1.00

00:54:20.160 I think he is a damn six-liter man, bro. 0.99

00:54:22.320 Yeah, he could. 0.99

00:54:22.880 Maybe that's a new nickname for Cove.

00:54:24.240 Six-liter man.

00:54:25.100 Yeah, dude.

00:54:25.600 Because he's got, yeah.

00:54:26.320 You need to have him on, though, dude.

00:54:27.280 I mean, he.

00:54:27.980 I know.

00:54:28.340 Well, I just want to have him on just from the pure stories.

00:54:33.000 And I've also been, I mean, I just went through Texas touring.

00:54:36.480 Yeah.

00:54:36.820 So it kind of was like, you know, and I was, we talked about you on, Jelly Roll was in

00:54:43.920 here a few months ago.

00:54:45.200 Love Jelly.

00:54:45.640 And we were talking about you.

00:54:46.640 And I don't know if that part made it in the episode because there was some lighting issue.

00:54:49.840 But we were both singing a lot of your songs and stuff.

00:54:53.340 And then when I was going through Texas, I was like, oh, man, this is kind of the perfect

00:54:57.040 time, you know?

00:54:59.200 Because I didn't know Texas was what it was, man.

00:55:01.300 We went through Midland and Lubbock.

00:55:03.000 Yeah.

00:55:03.760 And that's when we went through Albuquerque.

00:55:08.160 And it's, I mean, it's, they got some real people out there.

00:55:12.300 It's like just real.

00:55:12.960 There's some people hiding out out there.

00:55:14.580 Oh, yeah, dude.

00:55:15.440 There are some people hiding out.

00:55:16.620 There are people hiding behind Cactus.

00:55:17.640 You'll see a lot of dudes and they'll just be walking around like this.

00:55:20.240 It's like, I think you've been hiding behind a cactus, bro.

00:55:23.180 Dude, West Texas is its own animal, man.

00:55:26.300 Yeah.

00:55:26.800 Yeah, it's just, it's its own thing.

00:55:28.540 It's almost like being on Mars, but with ranch dressing kind of.

00:55:32.040 I always say it's like Corpus Christi without the ocean.

00:55:35.280 If you've ever been to Corpus, that's what it reminds me of.

00:55:37.460 But I love West.

00:55:38.400 I went to school there.

00:55:39.200 I grew up in East Texas, and so Southeast Texas.

00:55:42.500 And so pine trees, like thick-ass national forest, stuff like that.

00:55:46.500 And so West Texas has always kind of been, like you said, like Mars to me.

00:55:50.280 There's no trees.

00:55:51.420 Yeah.

00:55:52.000 There's no bushes.

00:55:53.280 Yeah.

00:55:53.780 Not a lot of grass.

00:55:55.080 And then people come out to the show.

00:55:56.540 It's like, where'd they all come from?

00:55:57.460 I know, dude.

00:55:58.180 And, dude, we'll sell 8,000 tickets there.

00:55:59.760 And I'm like, what are these people doing?

00:56:01.800 Yeah.

00:56:02.220 But it's great, man.

00:56:02.860 I love West Texas.

00:56:04.060 Midland, Odessa, Lubbock.

00:56:06.560 We've played in El Paso.

00:56:08.160 We just played in Amarillo this past weekend.

00:56:10.640 That's so cool, man.

00:56:11.900 So I love it out there.

00:56:13.180 Yeah.

00:56:13.460 Yeah, it's amazing how big it is, amazing how many people are out there.

00:56:16.260 But yeah, I thoroughly enjoyed it, man.

00:56:17.580 I just couldn't believe it.

00:56:18.260 Like, we'd pull up at a venue, and we'd look around in the parking lot, and you couldn't

00:56:21.800 see anything forever.

00:56:23.580 Yeah.

00:56:23.920 You're like, where's people going to come from?

00:56:27.040 You know?

00:56:28.040 But then people-

00:56:28.680 It's like you're going to see like a Mars rover pull up, and like 10,000 people get out.

00:56:33.040 I know.

00:56:33.340 Yeah, like an express from Albuquerque.

00:56:34.900 It's like the last, like that into, all the way out to California, there's just not a

00:56:39.860 lot going on.

00:56:41.820 You know?

00:56:42.040 There's like Vegas plopped in the middle out there.

00:56:44.140 It's like the Oasis.

00:56:45.460 But I mean, it's just like a whole stretch.

00:56:47.260 It's just like still like the Wild West, man.

00:56:49.360 There's just no talent.

00:56:50.100 Like if you want to, like if you're wanted-

00:56:51.820 Yeah.

00:56:52.080 By the law, and you love hardcore drugs, you have like a thousand mile stretch right

00:56:57.700 there where no one's going to find you, and you can get great drugs.

00:57:00.060 Yeah.

00:57:01.080 That's true, man.

00:57:02.040 You're right there.

00:57:03.160 You're really on the front porch of great drugs coming up through Mexico and stuff.

00:57:07.040 That's beautiful.

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01:00:21.200 What about, sometimes you're saying about drugs and some of your music and stuff.

01:00:25.980 Have you had any troubles with it?

01:00:27.280 Have you ever any point where you wanted to kind of rein yourself back in?

01:00:30.520 Yeah, man.

01:00:31.160 I got, I do not go near as hard as I used to now.

01:00:35.220 I kind of, I had to.

01:00:36.320 I kind of had like a, just a point where it was really through COVID.

01:00:40.800 Like, I hadn't been off the road like that since I was 22.

01:00:43.880 Wow.

01:00:44.380 When I started going on the road.

01:00:46.100 And, I mean, sitting around with money in the bank and nothing to do.

01:00:50.820 You know, living in downtown Austin, there's plenty you can get yourself into at the time.

01:00:54.360 And I just went a little too far.

01:00:58.020 And I had a couple nights where I was like, you know, is this it kind of thing.

01:01:04.260 You know, and, but, well, you know, next day I was like, I got, I got, I got to get out.

01:01:09.200 And I'd been dating Hallie Ray for a while.

01:01:10.800 And I was like, you know, it's, if I want to see 30, 35, 40, you know, it's probably, I just had, I had to get out, dude.

01:01:19.940 I started, you know, it all started partying and all the fun and games on the road.

01:01:23.440 And then, you know, when you, when you take that stuff back home with you and you're by yourself, still doing those same things.

01:01:31.200 That's, that's when I was like, I think, and I had so much to lose, man.

01:01:35.740 Like my career started to really go well.

01:01:38.680 You know, I'd had pretty heart went number one in platinum and I had a major record deal and all this stuff.

01:01:43.020 And, and I was just going down the wrong road and nobody knew, like I didn't go to rehab.

01:01:48.140 I didn't go tell anybody, I didn't tell my parents, I didn't tell anybody. 0.94

01:01:51.240 I told my brother a little bit, but I just kind of was like, dude, you're a grown fucking man, you know, and you got a lot to lose and you got a lot on the line. 0.88

01:01:58.940 And, and it's going to be a whole different ride and probably a lot shorter ride if you keep on the road, you're on. 0.98

01:02:06.860 So I just fucking woke up one day and I was like, I'm done, dude. 0.96

01:02:09.360 Wow. 0.99

01:02:09.980 I'm out.

01:02:10.940 Good for you, man.

01:02:11.780 That's powerful.

01:02:12.520 Thank you.

01:02:13.680 That's powerful to have that ability to have that wherewithal and then, but also to have that ability.

01:02:17.740 I think that's where some people lack that to say, this is it.

01:02:21.480 Dude, you can get used to anything.

01:02:22.840 That was really the way I looked at it.

01:02:24.000 I was like, dude, you can, you can, it's, you can get used to something so quickly.

01:02:27.700 Yeah.

01:02:28.180 You know, you think about like, I'm sure you've been on a private, you've been on a private jet.

01:02:31.480 Yeah.

01:02:32.220 How easy is that to get used to? 0.98

01:02:34.060 I just applied that same mentality to the shit that I was doing that I wasn't supposed to be doing. 0.98

01:02:39.860 And I was like, I can get used to living without this. 0.99

01:02:42.140 Yeah.

01:02:42.560 And it took a little while.

01:02:44.840 But I was like, I just, I had to get out, dude.

01:02:46.900 I didn't want to, I didn't want to live.

01:02:48.560 I like, I love being on the road and waking up in the morning and feeling good.

01:02:52.560 Yeah.

01:02:52.900 Like, I look forward to the show.

01:02:54.960 I look forward to writing a record and going to work and, and trying hard.

01:03:00.600 That was like something I didn't think was cool for a long time.

01:03:03.060 Yeah. 0.99

01:03:03.480 Now I'm like, dude, trying hard's dope as fuck. 0.97

01:03:06.140 Like, trying hard's a great thing that I wish I would have realized a long time ago. 0.99

01:03:11.880 I used to think trying hard was like losers.

01:03:14.040 Yeah. 0.99

01:03:14.200 You know, like, look at this guy fucking putting effort in. 0.99

01:03:17.740 What a ding dong, you know? 0.99

01:03:19.260 Bro, that's so captivating because, yeah, when you're like, if you're kind of going through

01:03:22.880 school and stuff when you're in high school and it's like, there's some dude trying real

01:03:26.480 hard, you're like, this dude is a nerd. 0.93

01:03:28.480 Yeah. 1.00

01:03:28.860 What a loser. 1.00

01:03:29.760 Yes. 1.00

01:03:30.260 Yeah.

01:03:30.920 But then you kind of get around in your own life.

01:03:33.180 You're like, oh man, if I took what I, some of the natural blessings that I've had

01:03:37.200 and applied some hard work to them.

01:03:39.800 Yeah. 1.00

01:03:40.360 Damn, baby. 1.00

01:03:40.940 It could be lights out. 1.00

01:03:41.740 Man, I was living in that condo in downtown Austin.

01:03:44.640 Dry wall, dog.

01:03:45.800 I'd be hanging dry wall in my lungs, son.

01:03:47.400 And there's a bar on top of that building that's residence only that's open from like

01:03:51.860 4 to 2 a.m. every night.

01:03:53.760 Good God.

01:03:54.220 Looking over the city.

01:03:55.700 It's a super dope place to live.

01:03:57.060 I'd never lived in the city before.

01:03:58.400 I'd always lived, you know, on land or out in the country or whatever.

01:04:02.340 Like inside the city like that, I'd never lived there.

01:04:05.080 And I wanted to do it.

01:04:07.260 And so it was a lot of fun.

01:04:08.980 It really was.

01:04:09.680 I had a lot of good times.

01:04:12.400 But it just – and I think any advice I give to a young dude, I'm like, set your time.

01:04:18.820 Pick your age. 0.99

01:04:19.500 Like you're going to go as hard as you can fucking go. 0.99

01:04:21.220 You're going to party until 28 or 35 or 25, whatever it is. 0.99

01:04:25.220 And then that's your heart out.

01:04:26.860 And after that, it's time to try hard.

01:04:28.600 Dang.

01:04:30.400 That's good advice, man.

01:04:31.380 We had a question coming here about a suggestion right here from a young fella.

01:04:34.360 Let's get to it real quick here.

01:04:36.640 What up, Theo?

01:04:37.560 What up, Parker?

01:04:38.720 This question's for Parker.

01:04:39.720 So, Parker, I'm getting ready to move to Nashville as a songwriter.

01:04:43.100 And I was wondering, what advice would you have for making those industry connections and getting in better rooms?

01:04:48.180 And just what advice would you give to somebody getting ready to move to Nashville to try and do it?

01:04:52.400 Appreciate y'all.

01:04:53.260 Gang, Theo.

01:04:54.060 Gang, baby. 0.75

01:04:54.520 Man, I don't know.

01:04:56.680 I know it's kind of a general question, but he seems sincere about it.

01:04:59.380 Yeah.

01:04:59.680 I mean, dude, it kind of goes back to the trying hard thing, man.

01:05:04.000 I mean, you don't have to live here.

01:05:06.180 You really don't.

01:05:06.780 George Strait's the king of country music.

01:05:08.520 He's never lived in Nashville, never moved here.

01:05:10.100 I moved here because I had to get out of what I was just talking about in Austin.

01:05:13.720 Like, I had to go somewhere.

01:05:14.620 I had to get out.

01:05:15.680 And that was my, like, the only option for me at the time.

01:05:19.680 And I can't wait to move back and buy a ranch and move back to Texas.

01:05:23.280 But, man, a ton of the people are here.

01:05:26.400 There's a lot of people trying to do it.

01:05:28.080 But if you don't know what you're trying to say and you don't know who you're trying to be or who you want to be, then it's going to take a long time to figure it out in this town.

01:05:40.640 I think you have to know.

01:05:41.580 Like, when I started coming here, Randy Rogers from the Randy Rogers band was managing me at the time.

01:05:45.540 He's the one who told me to come here.

01:05:46.700 He's like, dude, I think you could be a superstar, but you got to go to this town and do it.

01:05:49.820 I didn't want to come here.

01:05:51.920 And even when I started coming here, I would call him and I'd be like, dude, I don't want to be here anymore.

01:05:56.240 Like, I don't want to come back.

01:05:57.860 And he's like, you need to, like, just trust me.

01:05:59.980 And it was the greatest decision I ever made.

01:06:02.480 Shout out Randy Rogers.

01:06:04.580 And so to that young man right there, dude, I would just say know what you're coming here to do before, you know what I mean?

01:06:12.320 Like, what kind of, what do you really want to be?

01:06:14.440 Do you just want to be a songwriter?

01:06:15.880 Then you need to have some songs that are absolutely as stout as a song can be, as well written as they can be.

01:06:23.200 So when you come here, you have a little something to bargain, you know?

01:06:26.740 You have a little something to negotiate with.

01:06:28.700 It's kind of like when I signed my record deal, I was already selling a bunch of tickets all over.

01:06:32.100 Right.

01:06:32.520 So I had all the, the ball was kind of in my court on the record deal.

01:06:35.580 I didn't have to sign one.

01:06:36.540 I wanted to sign one.

01:06:37.660 Right.

01:06:38.060 So same thing as a songwriter.

01:06:39.300 If you're coming here trying to get a publishing deal, have a little something going already, you know?

01:06:44.820 And be like, hey, I've, I've got these songs, you know, have a little something in, in, you know, you don't just want to come in empty handed and you get signed into a bad deal.

01:06:52.080 Cause you don't know any better and you don't have anything to offer.

01:06:55.100 Um, so that's a great point, man.

01:06:57.560 Yeah.

01:06:57.840 And I think knowing what you have planned, I noticed at the comedy store in Los Angeles, that's like a popular comedy spot right there.

01:07:03.480 And, uh, and there'll be people that go there, they make the Mecca out from wherever, you know, to different cities or wherever town they're from.

01:07:12.140 They get the, you know, and I'm going to live here.

01:07:14.200 And then some of them choose to just be somebody that sits on the ports and drinks there every, every, every other night, you know?

01:07:19.780 It's like, okay, that's fine.

01:07:21.960 It's definitely a way to be, you know, but it's like, are there, are you really living out what your goal was?

01:07:27.820 You know, some people, yeah, they just, they'll move to LA and they'll get invited to all these parties and stuff.

01:07:32.460 But then there's up in the hills doing Coke every night and it's like, you know, five years go by and it's like, okay, well, what were some of your goals and aspirations?

01:07:40.040 Do you really have any?

01:07:41.280 Yeah.

01:07:41.900 That's a, you know, I wish I'd have set some of those lines in my own life at certain points.

01:07:45.440 Same, dude.

01:07:46.500 Well, dude, I just realized, I realized like as organically as you can watch it unfold.

01:07:50.500 Like the people around me, I was like, man, nobody's like, nobody, everybody's coming over to my house to party, but nobody's trying to make any money.

01:07:59.020 Nobody's trying to build a career.

01:08:00.140 Nobody's trying to hustle. 1.00

01:08:01.000 And it just took me like going to the bottom of that hole to be like, the fuck, dude, trying hard and taking care of your business and acting like a grown man. 1.00

01:08:11.640 That's cool shit. 1.00

01:08:13.220 Like that's not for losers. 1.00

01:08:14.620 Right. 0.99

01:08:14.940 It's really fucking cool. 0.95

01:08:16.100 And I just, it took me a little longer to realize it than I wish. 0.72

01:08:19.580 And dude, do you think about it?

01:08:20.240 Some people never get there.

01:08:21.440 Some people never realize that.

01:08:22.640 Some people realize it when they're 60.

01:08:24.180 Some people are born like that, I guess.

01:08:25.840 Like my sister, she was born like that.

01:08:27.300 She's just hustling out the womb. 1.00

01:08:28.800 Yeah.

01:08:30.240 Oh, yeah.

01:08:30.840 Some little babies come out with a watch.

01:08:32.200 Yeah, dude.

01:08:32.700 I like, they're just destined to hustle and everything's success.

01:08:37.340 Yeah.

01:08:37.680 You'll see a baby, some of them cut their own umbilical cord.

01:08:39.840 Absolutely, dude.

01:08:40.540 Like, dang it.

01:08:41.100 I, I think my sister may probably, Michael was probably one of those people.

01:08:46.480 But yeah, I don't know.

01:08:47.340 It's, I wish I would have realized that younger.

01:08:50.740 But you're not, you're not old.

01:08:52.140 No.

01:08:52.480 You know, you still got a lot of time.

01:08:53.840 Yeah.

01:08:54.220 And your music is kind of like, you still make music that almost feel, it's funny because

01:09:00.040 your music makes me feel.

01:09:01.940 Your music makes me feel, I feel young when I listen to your music.

01:09:06.740 That's dope. 0.93

01:09:07.100 You know?

01:09:07.440 So I feel, I don't feel like it has, because it only can have, I feel like music can really

01:09:11.400 only have as much history as you have.

01:09:13.140 Mm-hmm.

01:09:13.440 If somebody's really to believe it from.

01:09:15.040 Yeah.

01:09:15.300 You're right.

01:09:15.600 What you know.

01:09:16.200 Right.

01:09:16.680 Yeah.

01:09:17.220 And this, look, I don't know anything about music.

01:09:19.020 I'm just a person with two ears.

01:09:21.340 But, but yeah, your music makes me feel like, I don't know, I sing along to it. 0.98

01:09:26.960 You know, I feel like, I mean, my shit is, it's not, you know, like nowadays in country 0.95

01:09:33.900 music, there's so much pop influence. 0.98

01:09:35.880 Yeah.

01:09:36.140 Like a ton.

01:09:36.700 It's like basically rap in a way, pop music.

01:09:40.220 And, and like, like Wallen is like, that's the greatest pop country I've ever heard in

01:09:45.380 my life, dude.

01:09:46.240 Yeah. 0.91

01:09:46.500 Like he, it is, the songs, the production, his voice is so fucking good, dude.

01:09:52.480 But I, like, that's just not, like, I love that I have that to listen to. 0.55

01:09:56.960 And I love that that's what he's doing.

01:09:58.260 But like, I'm so boring, dude.

01:09:59.940 I just like writing sad country love songs about everything going terribly wrong.

01:10:03.460 Yeah.

01:10:04.260 And.

01:10:04.880 Yeah, dude.

01:10:05.620 And.

01:10:05.920 That's why this whole podcast is about half the time.

01:10:07.820 Yeah.

01:10:08.080 Well, dude, I just, that's like what I love.

01:10:10.080 And I'm, and I'm like, it's kind of hard to, you know, it's like so, so much of the,

01:10:16.360 of the genre of country music, especially in Nashville is so pop influenced and mine's just,

01:10:21.460 mine's not.

01:10:22.160 And so it's like, I really struggle all the time.

01:10:26.340 I learn, I write songs. 1.00

01:10:27.160 I'm like, who the fuck is going to listen to this shit? 1.00

01:10:30.540 You know, it's not making you bob your head. 1.00

01:10:32.340 It's not making you want to dance or drink beer. 0.95

01:10:34.460 Like it's making you want to go fucking text old gal that you swore you would never talk 0.98

01:10:39.080 to again. 0.96

01:10:40.260 But that's a big feeling sitting there in the chest of a lot of people.

01:10:42.420 Yeah, dude, that's my favorite songs, dude.

01:10:44.220 It's my favorite, favorite kind of song.

01:10:45.980 So.

01:10:46.080 You know, lamenting, thinking about things, looking back, you know.

01:10:49.180 And I think what's interesting about it, here's what it is, for such a guy, for a guy at your

01:10:53.540 age to have some of that perspective, you don't get a lot of that sometimes.

01:10:57.100 Yeah.

01:10:57.460 So I think that's what I think is really enjoyable about it because it makes me feel kind of young

01:11:01.380 and old at the same time.

01:11:02.680 That's dope. 0.93

01:11:04.460 Because there's some perspective in it, you know.

01:11:06.360 It's a lot of looking back.

01:11:07.360 It's a lot of like, like you're driving away from something, I feel like a lot of times.

01:11:12.480 Yeah.

01:11:13.000 You know, like there's something.

01:11:13.600 A lot of leaving.

01:11:14.480 Yeah.

01:11:15.080 A lot of leaving.

01:11:15.800 Like this is the record I'm writing right now.

01:11:17.280 Like every song is about going somewhere and leaving.

01:11:18.940 Yeah. 1.00

01:11:19.220 And I'm like, who the fuck wants to listen to this shit, you know? 1.00

01:11:22.580 Hopefully a lot of people, but Theo Vaughn. 1.00

01:11:24.580 I'll listen, baby.

01:11:25.380 Dude, I thought your name, I listened to you for a long time before I realized that your

01:11:29.240 name was Theo Vaughn.

01:11:30.740 I thought it was The O-Vaughn.

01:11:32.480 Yeah.

01:11:33.180 Did you ever get that?

01:11:34.000 Oh, yeah.

01:11:34.360 Yeah, okay.

01:11:34.840 I'm not the only one.

01:11:35.820 That's insane.

01:11:36.180 Okay, yeah.

01:11:36.720 Because I would always be like, dude, you guys know this guy, The O-Vaughn?

01:11:39.700 Yeah. 1.00

01:11:39.920 I'd be like, fuck you, Tom Mellon. 1.00

01:11:41.080 Oh, yeah. 1.00

01:11:42.060 From Albuquerque?

01:11:42.740 It's two names, bro.

01:11:43.900 From Albuquerque.

01:11:45.060 Yeah.

01:11:45.220 That little Albuquerque turkey, dude.

01:11:47.260 Let's get into one more question that came from a fan for you.

01:11:51.380 So I just want to make sure so that we got, so you started out music, you started out in

01:11:55.400 Texas.

01:11:56.000 Yeah.

01:11:57.600 And where'd you get your first instrument?

01:11:59.040 Where'd you get into music?

01:12:00.540 I just want our listeners to know everything about you, because some of my listeners may

01:12:02.920 not know of you.

01:12:03.540 No, 99% of them don't. 0.99

01:12:05.660 And they're probably going to be like, who's the dipshit wearing the gold chains? 0.99

01:12:09.620 You saved the day today. 0.98

01:12:11.120 Thank you.

01:12:11.760 You did.

01:12:12.080 I appreciate that.

01:12:12.940 It was my first time ever.

01:12:14.320 Must be known.

01:12:16.240 Blue ribbon for that, man.

01:12:17.520 Dude, I played like orchestra.

01:12:18.880 Like everybody in like fifth and sixth grade was wanting to be in the band, and I was like, 0.99

01:12:22.020 fuck that, dude. 0.99

01:12:22.620 No one's doing orchestra. 1.00

01:12:23.460 I'm going to do orchestra.

01:12:23.980 I just started playing the violin, and then-

01:12:26.480 Can you still play that? 1.00

01:12:27.160 Fuck no. 1.00

01:12:27.820 And then my mom bought me a guitar, just because my brother wanted one for Christmas, and she 1.00

01:12:34.200 didn't want me to be all upset that I didn't get one.

01:12:36.720 Right. 0.98

01:12:37.200 So she bought me one, and my brother would never fucking teach me anything. 0.91

01:12:40.340 Like he would never, like I'd be like, yo, we teach you how to play that? 0.99

01:12:42.940 And he'd be like, dude, fuck, I had my room. 0.91

01:12:45.380 And so I really just had to like, you know, I'd like learned on like the internet, once 0.98

01:12:49.760 the internet very first, like there was a thing called cowboy lyrics on the internet

01:12:53.860 back in the day.

01:12:55.120 And you could look up like chords, how to play, and I would learn how to play Chris Knight

01:12:58.080 songs.

01:12:59.340 And that's when I was in like seventh grade, and I wrote this song called One Man Mariachi

01:13:04.100 Band.

01:13:04.460 And it was about like going to Mexico and running away and starting a one man mariachi 0.63

01:13:08.740 band.

01:13:10.020 And so that, and then my mom was like, hey, that's pretty good.

01:13:13.940 So I kept doing it, you know, and then I wrote a song in my freshman year of high school called

01:13:17.000 Permanent Headphones.

01:13:17.960 It's not on the internet or anything anymore.

01:13:19.680 I think you can find it on SoundCloud.

01:13:21.560 And my brother was like, dude, like he came home from college, and I played that song for

01:13:26.680 him, Permanent Headphones.

01:13:27.360 And he was like, he was like, dude, you're going to be the next George Strait. 0.98

01:13:30.460 And I was like, damn, that's a lot of pressure, too. 0.97

01:13:33.600 Yeah, dude. 0.98

01:13:33.820 I was like, ease up on that, dude, you know? 0.97

01:13:38.400 But it was him saying shit like that and stealing that confidence in me that I actually might 0.99

01:13:43.380 be good at it. 0.99

01:13:45.280 And so I just, I fell in love with it, dude.

01:13:46.940 I was like, I mean, you know, all my buddies when I was in junior high and high school listened

01:13:50.220 to, like at the time, it was like Chameleon Air and like Flo Rida and all these rappers

01:13:57.140 that were big in like the mid-2000s.

01:13:58.700 Yeah.

01:13:59.300 And I was listening to Chris Knight and Adam Carroll and Slade Cleaves and James McMerchant

01:14:02.980 and Robert O'Keefe and Randy Rogers and Pat Green and Cross Janey Ragweed and, I mean,

01:14:08.760 just all these great songwriters.

01:14:10.180 I was like obsessed with it.

01:14:12.200 And Todd Snyder, I was just completely obsessed with it.

01:14:16.560 And I had no friends that listened to that.

01:14:18.480 So it was kind of like, and then once I got into high school and I was like, I was a real

01:14:21.400 average athlete, like I wasn't going to play college ball, clearly.

01:14:25.100 And I was like, no, not at all, dude.

01:14:26.920 And I was like, because I would like realize when I was like a sophomore in high school,

01:14:31.080 I was like, I was like, I'm not faster than anybody, but I can play guitar and sing better 0.99

01:14:36.840 than every one of those son of a bitches. 1.00

01:14:38.900 And so my junior year of high school, I was walking out of the workout and I told my head 0.99

01:14:42.740 coach, I was like, yo, I'm going to quit football and go play guitar.

01:14:45.240 And he's like, that's the biggest mistake of your life. 1.00

01:14:47.440 Damn. 0.99

01:14:48.640 Also, if he's a Texas football coach, he has to say that. 1.00

01:14:51.000 Yeah.

01:14:51.160 It's the only line he has.

01:14:52.580 Like if you pull the string on his back.

01:14:53.980 Like if you've seen Dazed and Confused.

01:14:55.460 Yeah.

01:14:55.840 And you know, Pink and he doesn't want to sign the contract.

01:14:58.700 He doesn't want to play on the team.

01:15:00.520 He's a quarterback. 0.84

01:15:01.380 He's real lazy. 0.85

01:15:02.180 Okay.

01:15:03.000 I was like, and that's like one of my favorite movies of all time.

01:15:05.420 And I was just dead set on being that guy. 1.00

01:15:09.100 And all my buddies were like, dude, you're such an idiot for quitting football. 1.00

01:15:11.380 What are you doing? 1.00

01:15:11.840 And I was like, yeah, like that.

01:15:13.820 And now.

01:15:14.280 What do you do when you never get a wife? 0.99

01:15:16.040 Now every one of them is like, damn, dude, I saw you on television. 0.99

01:15:20.060 Yeah. 1.00

01:15:20.440 I'm like, damn. 0.99

01:15:21.860 Y'all see about the limestone? 0.99

01:15:23.300 Yeah, let's go.

01:15:23.920 You see me on Theo Vaughn? 1.00

01:15:24.960 I'll fuck out. 1.00

01:15:25.780 Gang, baby. 1.00

01:15:26.840 Shout out my buddy Jeff Bean if he's watching this, man.

01:15:29.020 He was super stoked.

01:15:29.780 I was coming on here today.

01:15:30.520 He's a big fan.

01:15:31.140 Was he?

01:15:31.640 Yeah.

01:15:32.220 Well, thanks, Jeff, bro.

01:15:33.440 Praise God, bro.

01:15:34.640 Praise God.

01:15:36.160 Yeah, I'm trying to think of what else to talk about, man.

01:15:37.820 I think we got a good dose of you, man.

01:15:40.720 I don't want to keep us in here anymore.

01:15:41.600 I'm super underwhelming, dude.

01:15:42.580 I always apologize when people come up and ask for pictures and stuff.

01:15:45.140 I'm like, I wish I was cooler to meet.

01:15:47.420 I was like, I'm sorry.

01:15:48.080 I'm super underwhelming.

01:15:49.500 Being met is underwhelming, though.

01:15:51.500 Yeah.

01:15:51.900 Being met, I feel like.

01:15:53.180 It's like you can't.

01:15:54.240 Get met.

01:15:54.980 Yeah.

01:15:55.340 You can't compete with what you're capable of or whatever your skill is.

01:15:59.680 It's like, as a human, you falter to feel like, you know, people will be like, yesterday,

01:16:05.500 a dude came up to me in the airport, bro.

01:16:06.620 I was like, there was plane delays and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

01:16:09.720 And the dude's like, are you Theo Vaughn, bro?

01:16:11.680 And I was like, not today.

01:16:12.620 I'm not.

01:16:12.980 Yeah. 0.98

01:16:13.280 I said, fucking not today, though. 0.99

01:16:15.580 Dude, the airport, the airport can be the worst. 0.99

01:16:18.200 Because usually, like, if you're on your way, it's like a Thursday, you're flying somewhere

01:16:21.240 to start the weekend.

01:16:22.060 Yeah. 1.00

01:16:22.800 You're like, oh, yeah, fuck it. 1.00

01:16:23.760 Let's take some pictures. 1.00

01:16:24.440 Like, good to see y'all, too.

01:16:25.300 But if it's on Sunday.

01:16:26.780 Yeah.

01:16:27.160 And you're like a connecting flight home, you know, and you just feel so shitty or so hung

01:16:31.120 over.

01:16:31.740 And you got people mobbing you in the airport. 1.00

01:16:33.280 It's like, fuck this. 1.00

01:16:35.620 Oh, yeah. 1.00

01:16:35.660 You know, but I'm always trying to be as sweet as I can be.

01:16:38.860 Oh, totally.

01:16:39.540 Be patient with them.

01:16:40.380 Take the pictures.

01:16:41.340 But I'm just always like, dude, I'm sorry.

01:16:42.920 I wish I was like, I just write sad country songs.

01:16:44.940 Yeah.

01:16:45.260 There's nothing very impressive about it.

01:16:47.300 Yeah.

01:16:47.560 I apologize.

01:16:48.440 I'm just a Kleenex, baby.

01:16:48.640 I'm just, I'm basically just a musical Kleenex, baby.

01:16:51.580 You know?

01:16:53.840 Parker, thanks so much, man.

01:16:54.900 Honestly, bro, you really made my day, man.

01:16:56.420 I mean, I just, and I hate to, you know, make it about me. 1.00

01:17:00.260 It was just a fuck. 0.99

01:17:00.960 It was just hectic yesterday, and I was like, how do I do, because I was like, how do I 0.99

01:17:04.620 get my feelings and my mental back to a regular level where I can just have a conversation? 0.99

01:17:08.540 Well, it's heavy shit, dude. 0.99

01:17:09.460 Yesterday sounds like it was some heavy shit, so. 1.00

01:17:11.400 It was just, yeah, it was, man. 0.98

01:17:12.760 I've been through that with someone in my family back home, and it's still, he's still

01:17:17.720 going through it.

01:17:18.440 He's still battling that every single day.

01:17:21.780 And so, I mean, I get it, dude.

01:17:24.080 100%.

01:17:24.480 I've been down that road with him.

01:17:26.360 Well, thanks, man.

01:17:27.160 Thanks for being understanding.

01:17:28.080 No sweat, dude.

01:17:29.040 Yeah.

01:17:29.380 Thanks for carrying the show today, bro.

01:17:30.660 He really did.

01:17:31.480 I'm just glad to be here, dude.

01:17:32.980 I'm a big fan.

01:17:33.820 I've watched it a lot.

01:17:35.540 I still think the Ray Charles reverse ghost joke is one of the greatest jokes I've ever

01:17:40.980 heard.

01:17:41.180 I tell it all the time, and I heard that, and I was like, I want to go on that show.

01:17:45.400 Oh, dude.

01:17:46.240 Well, that's awesome, man.

01:17:47.160 Yeah, I appreciate it, bro.

01:17:48.580 Yeah, I didn't know what it was going to be like, man.

01:17:50.060 You really saved the day today, so.

01:17:51.660 Thank you, dude.

01:17:52.300 Yeah.

01:17:52.600 Thanks for coming through.

01:17:54.100 Parker McCollum, guys, if you guys haven't heard him, check out his music, man.

01:17:57.320 If you're listening to this podcast, then a lot of his music is going to fit right inside

01:18:05.200 of your heart, man.

01:18:05.900 All 1.3 to 5 liters, baby.

01:18:08.680 All 3 liters, baby.

01:18:10.240 The baby pool.

01:18:11.080 Yeah.

01:18:11.480 Gang, baby. 0.75

01:18:27.320 Yeah.

01:18:28.260 All 4 liters, baby.

01:18:28.820 All 4 liters.

01:18:29.140 Thank you, Sean.

01:18:29.280 So here's the rest.

01:18:30.180 We'll see you next time.

01:18:31.220 And we'll see you next time.

01:18:32.320 I can I can.

01:18:42.760 Bye-bye.

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This Past Weekend with Theo Von - June 15, 2022

E397 Parker McCollum

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