E430 Lainey Wilson
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1 hour and 40 minutes
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Summary
Lainie Wilson is a country music singer-songwriter and actress. She won Female Vocalist of the Year at the 2022 Country Music Awards. Her new album, Bell Bottom Country, is out now, and I'm so grateful to be spending some time with her, getting to know her.
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Today's guest, I mean, this lady's got that, I mean, she got the voice of just, I mean, you want to climb in her throat and just, and just start a family or knit an American flag.
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You just want to dang just Betsy Ross around her tonsils, baby.
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It sounds like it just comes out of the core of the earth.
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And just, I mean, it, it just like a beautiful train just rolling through years.
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She won the Female Vocalist of the Year at the 2022 Country Music Awards.
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Her new album, Bell Bottom Country, is out now.
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And I'm just, I'm grateful to be spending some time with her, getting to know her.
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Shine that light on me I'll sit and tell you my stories
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Shine on me And I will find a song I've been singing
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So, yeah, when things get busy, it's interesting how they get.
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And I also, like, thought people were kind of full of it when they're like,
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Oh, sometimes I'll be halfway through the statement.
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And I will have to check in my head, do you know what this is?
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There's times where I, all day long, I'm like, all right, I'm in Salt Lake.
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Yeah, it's kind of, it definitely gets, it can be kind of challenging.
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I think just because of how quick things, how quick things happen and how busy you can get.
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But you can also move it if you feel like, I want you to feel caged up.
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I feel like when you're singing, like somebody's singing from like, I feel like somebody's singing
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I mean, I feel like it's coming from like, yeah.
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I just feel like it's like coming from another plane or something.
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Sometimes I feel like I was born in the wrong decade.
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I mean, who knows what I was doing in a previous life.
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But yeah, I kind of have some weird feelings like that too.
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Like, do you think of a time, like, do you feel like there's a time, like, do you get
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a sense of what is going on around you at that time?
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But I do feel, I do feel like a little bit of an old soul.
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I don't know if it's, which I have some family members and stuff who I think kind of feel
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So maybe it's just something like a little thing kind of passed down.
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You could have been like a train conductor, but before they had a whistle.
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So you had to be like, like you had to really belt it out, you know?
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I'm just trying to think of something where you'd also have to be like real verbose and
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And what if he would have come, or what if somebody else was a conductor and you just
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When I tell you, I can't even get on TikTok without.
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I'm like, I've been in Nashville for 12 years trying to do music.
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And I mean, they, they find the music through the butt and they plan on sticking around,
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I'm like, whatever, whatever makes them listen to the music.
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Hey, look, sometimes they start with the bass section, you know, before they get to the
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I mean, I didn't know how to feel about it in the beginning.
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I was like, I thought it was going to be just this little, little tiny viral thing.
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And next thing I know, weeks later, I'm still seeing big old butts.
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I just remember seeing that and it was like, yeah, it was like a side angle of you on a
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What's weird is people were like, where'd you get that from?
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And I say, I get the, the width from my mama and the depth from my daddy.
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My daddy's got a, he got a little booty on him.
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I used to date a girl actually, and she had her father's butt.
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It was so hard for me sometimes to like want to mate with her sometimes.
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Cause you're just thinking about her father's butt.
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I wasn't thinking about her father, but it was like a very distinct looking buttocks,
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I mean, she was beautiful, but she had, she had her father's butt kind of.
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Congratulations on your two top, you have two songs in the top 10 right now, right?
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And you're, I just want to start like, cause some, some audience might not know you, right?
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So I want to start, well, let's look at this TikTok.
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I don't know, but there's a lot of different versions.
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I had been eating real good this summer, you know?
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They look like frog legs almost right there with those pants in a way.
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That's the security guard down there in the corner.
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He's probably in a minimum security facility right now.
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A little town called Baskin of like 200 people.
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I worked on a farm outside of Natchez up near like Vidalia.
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When I tell you, if you go through Baskin, you better slow down.
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I got my first speeding ticket at 15 years old in Baskin.
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Well, of course, there's nothing for them to do.
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But yeah, I've been in Nashville for almost 12 years.
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Got here August 1st, 2011 in a little camper trailer.
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I lived in a camper the first three years I was here.
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And I'm just too hard-headed to leave, honestly.
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My daddy taught me a few chords on the guitar and wrote my first song at nine years old.
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I knew, I mean, my family took me on a trip when I was nine.
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It was like a couple weeks after I had written my first song.
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And we were driving back home to Louisiana and we drove through Nashville.
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I was looking at the Batman building and I told my mom and daddy, I said, this is home.
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I knew that I was going to be a part of this industry.
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I just didn't know when or what that was going to look like.
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And so when you're starting to, so you're a child and how do you get into music?
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I mean, obviously, Louisiana, there's a lot of like music passing through there.
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You could have a, you know, a sip of off a local hose and you, you know, you might have
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I'm talking about like, she sings the loudest in church, but like even Jesus is getting mad
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He's like looking down like, that's of the devil.
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On both sides of my family, I have people who play like musical instruments and stuff.
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But in Baskin, I mean, country music is more than just a genre.
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And so growing up, you know, listening to a lot of 90s country, I just, we eat, sleep
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If I was riding the tractor with daddy, like that's what we were listening to.
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And so I didn't even realize as a little girl, that country music was like a genre of music.
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Well, what I'm trying to think of the first song I ever even heard, I think was Bon Jovi.
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And I was like, this babysitter was giving me a ride to YMCA camp and she played it.
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And I'd never been like in a car, like with a woman before.
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And so I think it like, everything seems so like real.
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And so I just remember being there and she let me put her seatbelt on her.
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Because I think I was like, I was like, you know, we got to be safe.
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So I think she put mine on and I was like, oh, let me put yours on, you know?
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And when I put hers on, I was like kind of close to like her body.
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And then finally she, um, we start driving and she put on Bon Jovi and I just remember
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hearing that was like the first song I ever heard.
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Um, the first time I ever heard a woman sing that I remember I was in high school and they
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had, I'm sure I heard stuff on the radio, but, um, some girl in our talent show at school
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And it was like, dude, I like didn't even know what was going on.
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It was just like, cause I never, it just was so beautiful.
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It was like, it was like a woman just sitting there playing the piano and singing and it
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Did you play in like talent shows and stuff at school?
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I mean, if 200 people are in town, how many were in school?
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Um, there was a elementary school in Baskin and my mama taught there.
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My grandma was a principal and, um, but even going over to the town next to me, I mean,
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I still, I only graduated with 24 kids and that was one of the biggest classes they've
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So, you know, everybody, everybody knows you and it's like the, the best thing and the
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They'll be there no matter what, but they'll be there no matter what.
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Like, did you, so was, was, I guess it was the kind of town you probably had to have like
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That's so popular in those type of communities.
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And now like when I see, like if I have a songwriter buddy or whatever, if he's got like a daughter
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and, and I've realized they're, they've been in this relationship for a long time.
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Like let go sow some wild oats, you know, like at the end of the day, you might end up together.
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But there's a big old possibility that you are going to change.
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You're going to be a completely different person.
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I mean, I'm a different person than I was five years ago.
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Well, there was one year where we had broke up for a couple of months and I went to five
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At that point I was just asking, I was like, anybody need a prom?
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So I want to go back a little bit to like, just like when you were growing up, like what
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Like, was it, uh, so your mom worked at the school.
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Um, well, she taught second grade for a while and then she taught the gifted and talented
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He does like crop loans for farmers and, um, farms, corn, wheat, soybeans, oats.
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It's crazy how much like growing up on a farm taught me just about life.
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I mean, even when it comes to, you know, what you do, you get up every day, you roll
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And then you got to worry about the legit, the, all the loan side of it, the financial
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I remember when I would work on a farm, we would get up.
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We'd roll out at like six 30 and people would like, yeah, you just eat like gas station
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And then lunch was kind of a big, if you had a nice deal, unless like you were planning,
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And when I got home, I literally, I remember laying down as the first time I ever just,
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We used to like during the summers when I was too little to actually help do anything,
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daddy wouldn't ever let me plant because he knew I'd mess that up, but he would let
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But we would take food out to the field and let the tailgate down and kind of, that would
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be our little picnic table and have all the farmers come out and it's, it's a good
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Do you remember, um, like having like a real, like, like connection to any female singers
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I feel like she don't let anybody run over her.
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Um, she kind of tells it how it is with a, like a little bow wrapped on top, you know?
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But, um, I think I could, I've learned a lot from her by not meeting her.
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So I can't imagine how much I would actually learn from her if I sat down with her and
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Um, everybody from Shania to Reba to Trisha Yearwood.
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Like, I feel like those, Faith Hill, those were the voices that were around.
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I remember the first time I heard I Hope You Dance.
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I was, I was in sixth grade and my teacher came in with a little boom box on her shoulder
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And even in the sixth grade, I remember how that song made me feel.
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And I was like, whatever this feeling is, like, I want to make other people feel that
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I realized that in the past year that a lot of music, it's like, you, sometimes you can't
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put into words what you're trying to say, right?
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It's like, it's like, uh, it's just such a gift because it'll do that for you.
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I mean, I have a hard time completing, you know, full sentences, but I can write a dang
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Like, but I bet you, I don't know if out of Baskin, if y'all could have, if everybody
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would have got together in a meeting, if y'all could have put a sentence together.
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You will see a, I mean, there was, I remember one kid turned in a paper and had no punctuation
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She's like, I've just never seen anything like this.
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But I love how, I mean, there's so many different like dialects and stuff in Louisiana.
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And I feel like from where, where you're at, it's way different than where I'm from.
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Where you guys, it's a lot more farming up there.
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I want to kind of say like, you know, a lot more youthful people getting, you know, pregnant
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and blaming it on God, but really they're seeing somebody.
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You know, I feel like there's a lot more just kind of secret.
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I feel like South Louisiana folks kind of just leave it out there.
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And for some of the North Louisiana folks too, it's that way.
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But there's also a little bit of that, like, we're going to act like it ain't happening
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So if you went to like a high school dance, where'd you go to that at?
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We used to go, I think to a grain elevator there.
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Yeah, I think when I was working on that farm, we would go up there to drive.
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There's a big old grain elevator right there in the middle of town across from the Walmart.
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Not many people know Winsboro, so I'm surprised that that's why I didn't even say.
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One time I was, because it always, I was just like a hand, you know, on the farm, so I would
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And one time I had to paint this house and I was worried about the bees getting me, right?
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And so I put, I made this visqueen suit, right?
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So I got on this ladder and I'm painting and these bees are like hitting me and I'm just
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But what I don't realize is the heat, it was probably maybe 94 or something.
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So suddenly I start to see like at the bottom of my, like these, like feet I made on this
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There's just like water kind of pouring out of me.
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And then I just realized I was just losing water.
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Do you remember going to a high school dance or being in love when you were young?
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And it took me a long time to realize that, but that's kind of the mentality in some of
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I think there's so much like, I'm losing all my words today, but there's like a lot of
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So, yeah, it was, but high school for me was, it was fun.
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I will say that I'm not friends with hardly any of the people that I graduated with just
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because we're living completely different lives.
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I might, there might be another person out of my graduating class that's not married with
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Like I had like girlfriends and stuff like that and, um, but man, just like we were talking
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about earlier, like people change, things change.
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And sometimes you figure out who people really are and it sucks.
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Um, but I will say looking back on it now, um, I wouldn't change it for anything.
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I needed to be here in Nashville because I might still have, you know, oh man, I need to go.
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I need to go back there and, and hang out with my, with my girls and, you know, having
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It kind of gave me that push of like, no, you get out there and you, and you start your
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Like I, I spent a handful of nights in my bed last year here in Nashville.
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Everything between that and filming Yellowstone and, um, yeah, we are on the, we're on the road
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a lot, but we're trying to, you know, burn up the road, strike when the iron's hot and
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got to take advantage of this viral TikTok ass thing going on.
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Is that really what you feel like is kind of no?
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It's interesting how you get onto people's radars.
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Um, I follow like a few of my friends, like my songwriting friends, Meg McCree, Ben Chapman.
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I love, um, I love watching like little puppy videos, you know, it depends on what kind of
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I'll get some, you know, like somebody preaching at me and then I'll get into that and I'll be like,
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you know, if you watch the whole thing, you're going to get another one.
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And I'm like, Oh, the Lord, he trying to, he getting me.
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I bought a God is my girlfriend sweatshirt the other day off of somebody's ended up on
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I just hope it's not too small because I feel like that's not the sweatshirt.
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I follow a couple of like, like, uh, people that have like disabilities or somehow a lot of
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people like if, like now it used to like now people kind of champion if somebody in their
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I follow this little baby named Samaj, this little black child who is so just adorable with
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They're all, he's always, he always says he has to go to work and then he has to go to
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Sometimes the Lord will, yeah, the Lord grows through.
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You'll be like watching something you ain't supposed to be watching.
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So then what is, uh, what has, what was like a first job that you had growing up?
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I would do like three or four parties a weekend.
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It's so the first party I did was, um, for my eighth grade teacher and she had just bought
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me a little Hannah Montana wig and she's like, will you just show up to my little girl's
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And I just took it too far and went and bought the karaoke track.
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Next thing I know, I mean, I'm playing in Mississippi and Arkansas, Texas.
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Um, like I would open up the show or I would at least ask like, can Laney open up the show?
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I would try to, cause I'm like, let me take advantage of this.
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Um, let me just get up there with my guitar and see if they like my stuff.
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Did you ever get to perform it for Miley or no?
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But we got to do something together at some point.
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Cause I mean, I can't get away from the Cyrus's.
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The first song I learned on guitar was Achy Breaky Heart.
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I met some guy that day, I think dated one of, uh, that dated Miley for a while the
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I feel like a lot of, there could be a lot of faux Cyrus's going.
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I did a lot of, like, I'll say whenever I first moved to Nashville.
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Um, when I was living in my camper trailer, I, I mean.
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So, long story short, um, there was a guy from Baskin who wanted to move to Nashville and
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do music and he ended up becoming a songwriter, producer and had some success, like, in the
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But he wanted to move in the late 70s and, uh, my grandfather on my daddy's side, he
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gave him just like a few hundred dollars to kind of help him move to Nashville and get
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So, as a favor in return, like, he was my mentor kind of growing up.
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He'd stop by my house whenever he came home to Baskin and stuff.
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Um, he let me live in his studio parking lot out in Bellevue for free for three years.
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So, I hooked up the trailer to the water, the Wi-Fi, the electricity.
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I was having, uh, plumbing issues and nobody wanted to help me work on the thing.
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So, you know, I've got my daddy on the other line and he's like, well, do this, close off
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your valves, fill up your tank, then, you know, let it run for a while, undo it and let
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it kind of flush out while I fell asleep and the entire Dane Camper trailer flooded.
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It's, uh, I mean, the, the floor eventually started rotting out, you know, you just had
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Jump over the other part to get to the bathroom, you know.
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It's like Dance Dance Revolution kind of in there at a certain point, you know, especially
00:34:26.440
And, um, I remember one time I was, I was taking a shower and, um, I had just started
00:34:32.500
these like kickboxing lessons or it was some, something called hot box here in town where
00:34:43.440
I mean, I used to, I've been super high in a very small pickup truck.
00:34:51.460
So yeah, I've freaked out before one time in a truck and yeah, I almost kicked my way out of
00:34:57.060
Well, that's the way I felt because how camper trailer, um, shower doors are, they've got
00:35:01.620
the little latch on it so you can close it when we're traveling.
00:35:06.480
And I remember I was sitting there showering and it was ankle deep water.
00:35:21.040
So I try to, you know, I'm just like, I'm going to get out of the shower.
00:35:33.280
Them kickboxing lessons came in handy because I, pow.
00:35:49.560
Dude, I'm trying to think of, uh, yeah, my sister, I lived in a trailer for a long time
00:35:53.360
and she was so funny because like a branch fell in their trailer, right?
00:36:07.760
And like one of her kids is like sitting on the other side of the counter eating cereal.
00:36:11.560
Like they're just so kind of nonchalant, right?
00:36:13.700
And there's a bird on the branch and she goes, look, Theo, look how beautiful, right?
00:36:18.740
And like, I'm like, I wish my perception of the world was like that.
00:36:27.700
Honestly, I feel like I just learned a lot from that story right there.
00:36:40.060
I mean, obviously with your career growing, it's crazy how quick you can get to places
00:36:44.400
where you're like, okay, I could maybe work with Miley Cyrus or I could maybe work with
00:36:53.420
And Mandolin and I, I mean, we've been working together, which is my manager for everybody
00:37:06.000
And I mean, she was setting me up, co-writes and stuff when, I mean, nobody would give me
00:37:16.460
But we have, we've been like, I mean, we're best friends.
00:37:20.720
We work very closely together and we've dreamed up a lot of these things.
00:37:25.080
I mean, everything we put on our list for last year, we've accomplished that.
00:37:31.260
It's really cool to be able to, to dream a little bit bigger.
00:37:35.160
It's like, my gosh, like, it's really not that far-fetched.
00:37:41.700
I've been traveling in a flatbed truck for 10 years, you know, and that seemed far-fetched.
00:37:49.300
I mean, the wheels are turning and we're going to do it.
00:37:52.560
We're going to accomplish everything on our list this year.
00:37:56.900
I don't even think we've made a list, but we're going to make a list.
00:38:03.800
Like, yeah, making a list and realizing that you can actually, like, when you start to achieve
00:38:07.320
some of your dreams, it's kind of scary, kind of.
00:38:10.340
And I'll say, you know, I think I'm prepared for what's going on, but there's absolutely
00:38:17.340
another level of pressure to look good, sound good, be good, be on, be prepared for everything.
00:38:27.140
But some of that, I think, is also a trap, I think, especially, I feel like, with country
00:38:32.660
I feel like people come there because they want, I love stories, right?
00:38:37.520
And so that's why I think I love a lot of country and singer-songwriter stuff is because
00:38:45.860
So I feel like it's at least a genre where, and a universe where you can be a little bit
00:38:55.340
You don't have to look like you got it all together.
00:39:01.360
Yeah, the less you have it together, the better.
00:39:29.240
He's out there feeding his animals and squirreling around.
00:39:34.320
I mean, if we're going to write about it, we got to do it.
00:39:37.420
I've had some experience with it, I think, you know?
00:39:39.980
But that gets scary as your life gets bigger and busier.
00:39:42.760
It's like you don't have some of those same exact moments, you know?
00:39:47.060
I did just buy me some land here around Nashville that I'm excited to, you know, kind of get
00:39:53.780
Because when I first got here, I mean, you just can't afford to have animals and you
00:40:07.520
I'm trying to think of what kind of animal you would get.
00:40:20.500
Me and my sister, we were PRCA rodeo flag girls.
00:40:24.920
That big old butt stayed as in a saddle, you know what I'm talking about?
00:40:29.360
Now, is your sister pretty cheeked up or what's going on with her?
00:40:32.460
It ain't as far out, but it's definitely as far this way.
00:40:38.460
So she ain't going nowhere in the saddle either.
00:41:04.940
Now, I love them to death, and they got to come to a show.
00:41:09.820
I was doing with Luke Combs out in Oklahoma City.
00:41:11.800
That was the first show that the boys got to see.
00:41:14.240
And I think they were, like, they had a little bit of an idea what Aunt Wayne does, but not
00:41:19.580
really until they got to see it, and I think they were a little bit like, oh, okay.
00:41:24.360
And now they're dancing around the house, singing in the broomsticks, and I'm like, uh-oh, maybe
00:41:32.580
You know, you have to be influenced by something.
00:41:34.320
Something kind of has to, like, physically connect you to things sometimes to know it even
00:41:39.420
I remember the first time that I saw a comedy, I didn't know comedy really existed.
00:41:42.840
I mean, I'd seen it on television and stuff, but that wasn't enough for me to really get
00:41:48.780
And then somebody took me to a comedy show in college, and I was like, oh, my gosh.
00:41:55.220
I was watching this guy, and I was like, this is a real thing that people do.
00:42:01.680
Did you guys have, like, a big festival in y'all's town?
00:42:09.120
I mean, literally, I went down to, went down over wherever you want to say it's at.
00:42:15.740
We did the Rose Bowl parade in L.A., and I got to be on the Louisiana float and represent
00:42:24.100
So, and there were lots of queens, and I mean, there was the crawfish queen, there was
00:42:28.360
a catfish queen, there was the frog queen, turtle queen, duck queen.
00:42:40.220
It's just some guy up there, like, with one of those tank top sunburns on.
00:42:46.580
One of my favorite stories about my sister is she was trying to do a pageant for the,
00:42:56.640
And she gets out there, and she's, you know, trying to change her accent and stuff, and
00:43:02.240
she's like, I'm Janna Wilson, Conkesca Kent number three.
00:43:14.160
But we had, the Catfish Festival was in Winsboro.
00:43:27.780
You should have been the judge, because I think they were like, no, she ain't no queen.
00:43:36.640
It was like Junior Miss or something, and they were like, what does going green mean to you?
00:43:55.800
I mean, yeah, that was just like the thing to do.
00:44:03.520
I mean, I bet, but there was a couple broads at loss that are still a little bit TO'd about it.
00:44:10.720
My question was like, you know, what does agriculture mean to you or something like that?
00:44:16.560
And I think the line that really got them was, I was like, agriculture is the backbone of America.
00:44:23.020
And then they were like, oh, yeah, we're giving her the crown.
00:44:30.760
I'm not even joking to a girl who was the same year, got pregnant and quit school.
00:44:44.580
What was the word that you didn't know how to spell?
00:44:46.640
Her name was Helena, I remember, and I couldn't do inconvenience.
00:44:51.660
Well, I wouldn't be able to do that anyway either.
00:44:59.280
And I still feel every time it comes up, I just.
00:45:03.340
And then I started thinking about her and her child every time I hear that word.
00:45:25.220
And if you guys can hear on this, apparently a neighbor is, we're in Gaza, I think.
00:45:33.580
Only two times have we ever had like real issues here in this when Jelly Roll was here.
00:45:52.960
I mean, he, yeah, he's, he's one of my favorites.
00:45:58.340
He said the reason he knew he wanted to be a part of that label.
00:46:01.940
He said, because I, I got on the website and I looked to see, you know, the roster.
00:46:12.360
And then I saw Frank Ray, he's an ex-Mexican cop.
00:46:44.360
And you, you get, you want to, and you love him.
00:47:00.880
But yeah, there's just something about him and he's got so many great stories.
00:47:06.300
It's like, even if the music wasn't good, you'd still want to root for him, but it's just a
00:47:11.660
Um, yeah, I think there's just, yeah, you just love him so much.
00:47:15.340
I think that's, that's the, there's, I feel like there's two types of artists in, in almost
00:47:20.000
I think you're, or in any like template of art, you're either like people are there for
00:47:32.680
But some guys it's like you get, are you, or your reason you get into them is one or
00:47:39.100
Cause sometimes it's like, I like the person so much.
00:47:45.120
I mean, I got some buddies and I'm like, Ooh, that is, but I love you.
00:47:55.580
Um, yeah, but I'm gonna get some oysters actually.
00:48:02.580
Oysters are like, I think they're supposed to not be eaten.
00:48:05.260
I, here's the thing for me, it like depends on the day and I'm kind of the same way with
00:48:12.560
It just depends on the day whether I can actually do them raw or not.
00:48:16.120
Um, I will say if you haven't been in Hendersonville, there's a place called Moby Dickies.
00:48:21.680
It's on the water and I wouldn't normally like eat oysters around here, but, um, they
00:48:31.160
I mean, I just feel like eating them in South Louisiana is probably a little bit better.
00:48:49.240
If you, I can't imagine, you'd have to be, I feel like some type of pedophile or something
00:48:55.800
to open something that small and put your dang tongue in.
00:49:04.780
It's a little, I mean, it's like, cause it's just so small.
00:49:10.620
But I tell you what, I feel like I'm from Louisiana every time I do it.
00:49:13.880
I'm like, I'm doing this cause I'm from Louisiana.
00:49:19.880
I mean, I could, I'll make a special trip home just to go get me some crawfish.
00:49:25.400
But that oyster, every time I open it, I feel like it's parents aren't home, you know?
00:49:45.560
Because also the main character in, oh no, not Yellowstone.
00:50:02.260
I was going to say too, sorry, I interrupted you now.
00:50:04.580
The first time you met Jelly Roll was your first acting gig, really.
00:50:10.980
The first time you met Jelly Roll and Mandolin is her manager.
00:50:15.440
She's here and she just chimed in and just said the first time she met Jelly Roll was,
00:50:21.120
No, I was pretty much an extra in a music video that he was doing with Uncle Cracker.
00:50:26.700
And they told me earlier that day, they were like, we'll pay you $100 if you come out here
00:50:31.420
for the day and act like a drunk person passed out on the ground.
00:50:37.940
I don't even know if I've told Jelly that I didn't get my $100.
00:50:56.700
I feel like he's one of those people that just could have passed away and you don't
00:51:05.540
Everybody I feel like who spent time with Kid Rock ends up dying.
00:51:19.120
Oh, no, but the man I'm thinking of is from Louisiana.
00:51:21.780
He was an actor on that show, 1940, uh, Faith's, uh.
00:51:34.700
Sorry, I thought you were talking about 19-something.
00:51:38.020
Tim McGraw, he's actually from, like, start Louisiana, but I had some grandparents that
00:51:45.240
lived in Ward 3, Louisiana, and he got brought home from the hospital to, like, a little
00:51:49.820
house that was in Ward 3, and my step-grandmother used to babysit him.
00:52:13.400
But still, you can, I think, even look at it in a baby.
00:52:24.240
Yeah, the Third Ward, I think, that's where Little Wayne is from.
00:52:27.860
It's even, like, an actual official name of a town, but that's what they call it.
00:52:32.560
It's, like, Crowville, Louisiana, and then right outside of it is Ward 3.
00:52:38.720
We had, like, the student council thing, and, like, all the representatives.
00:52:45.560
I don't even know what I was doing, but I was there.
00:52:48.060
And they had, like, all these kids came from other places, and I met some girl from Rain, Louisiana.
00:53:02.000
And I just wrote a big piece of poster board that said, you are beautiful.
00:53:18.980
And she said, you should come to the Frog Festival sometime.
00:53:23.260
And I was like, I'll start jumping now to get there.
00:53:32.480
And I never, I think we called each other one time at night, and that was it.
00:53:38.520
I remember I used to write down things on a notepad of what to talk about when I was, like,
00:53:43.500
talking on the phone in high school or junior high, whatever it was.
00:53:46.920
I'd be like, ask him if he caught any frogs while he was frog gigging.
00:53:54.760
I'm like, do you not know how to have a conversation?
00:54:02.140
I think sometimes you don't know how to have a conversation.
00:54:04.560
Especially when you're young and you're, like, talking to the opposite sex.
00:54:10.920
And she would always be like, you need to go clean something.
00:54:17.520
Oh, there was never a good part, but I was just being alive on the phone with a woman.
00:54:29.960
Because I think it's just your first time doing it.
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Like, you can't even replicate those nerves as you get.
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It's like, I mean, you're, you're like, you don't even know what's going on.
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And then seeing a girl at school, like, or that was always weird.
00:55:03.880
And then you, like, had to see in between class.
00:55:07.540
And you, like, don't know if you need to make eye contact going down the hall.
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And this boy, I don't know if he had a crush on me, but this ain't the way to let me know if he did.
00:59:15.940
And I would say that I had a girlfriend that lived in another town.
00:59:20.740
And then my first girlfriend, she played softball.
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She would pick me up and, like, kiss me when the bus would come by.
01:00:03.840
And I remember she would even wrap my legs around her waist.
01:00:14.100
And then the worst part was the bus would be there and my brother and his friends.
01:00:18.540
And they would yell stuff at us out of the bus.
01:00:23.200
When you were just sitting there and just on her like a baby.
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And we would park at the hospital and then walk across the street to the school.
01:00:58.760
And we'd stop by the convenience store in Baskin, get them Crespitos or one of them deep-fried
01:01:10.100
I feel like if you went to the gas station, it was a lot more like chicken tenders.
01:01:14.720
And like, I remember they had like a homemade root beer somebody did for a while, but it
01:01:42.400
They got two monkeys that have been taken from a zoo.
01:01:52.660
Because we didn't have a zoo, but we had an animal petting facility that was nearby where
01:01:56.860
I think they ended up getting one of those after I had already gone.
01:02:01.080
Not in Winsboro, but kind of like on the outskirts.
01:02:03.360
Kind of like a little safari, like drive-through safari thing.
01:02:13.060
I feel like my house was a little bit of a petting zoo.
01:02:16.440
But I mean, we had horses and a lot of like family members and stuff would have other
01:02:24.820
And did y'all have like a cook shed in the back and stuff?
01:02:28.080
Because some people have that in Louisiana, they have like a cook shed, you know?
01:02:31.940
I mean, we would honestly, we'd go to the tractor shed at my granny's house and we'd, yeah,
01:02:40.760
I feel like somebody was always cooking something.
01:02:45.400
People like to grill, cook, and kill something and then just cook it.
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She was 19 years old and no, they got married when she was 19.
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I think she met him when she was like 17 or something like that.
01:03:11.500
He was going to college and, yep, he swept her right off her feet.
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I remember like in, even in like junior high, they'd have like older men or like guys would
01:03:26.380
come and like bring like McDonald's to like the girls at our school and put it over the
01:03:39.400
The second we saw like a girl from our school walk over to the fence to get fast food from
01:03:53.040
I just remember because you'd see the car pull up and you'd see him get out, you know,
01:04:04.200
I'm over here, yeah, just having me a little handful of runts that I bummed off a buddy.
01:04:09.600
And she's over there and then she'd walk, whoever it was would walk out and be like,
01:04:16.260
And she kind of showing it off a little bit, you know.
01:04:22.800
God, if you had food from somewhere else at lunch.
01:04:25.500
You were like someone that had gone to outer space.
01:04:31.320
And everybody's looking at you like you're the center of attention for the meal.
01:04:39.060
It was just like, yeah, it was just little things like that, man.
01:04:42.800
Do you remember the first date that you ever went on?
01:04:55.080
Yeah, someone killed their spouse over a batch of them.
01:05:06.040
Oh, you can Google someone killed spouse over any food and there's something.
01:05:28.960
This is the guy that I dated pretty much my whole life.
01:05:32.360
So, it was like his parents were sitting at another little booth kind of like watching us.
01:05:36.360
But I remember he ordered crab legs and I remember he like...
01:05:47.760
But he cracked it and a piece of crab flew right in my hair and I was so embarrassed.
01:05:54.020
I was over there just enjoying my cheesy biscuit and that dang crab landed in my hair.
01:06:00.020
And I don't know why, but at 13 years old or however old I was, I was like, oh, he's not
01:06:07.420
Dude, in Southern Louisiana, that's like catching the bouquet at a wedding.
01:06:10.900
If you get a piece of crab stuck in your hair, that is dang good luck, I feel like.
01:06:17.420
I didn't know to appreciate it then, but I do now.
01:06:27.160
They have like this big old chocolate chip cookie skillet.
01:06:33.020
Now, that right there, I could just eat that for my meal.
01:06:36.820
Well, some places, you know, in the Midwest, they'll have pie first.
01:06:40.040
They'll be like, do you want your pie first before dinner to make sure you have room for it?
01:06:47.940
You walk into like a lot of diners there and they say, do you want your pie first?
01:07:02.060
But speaking of like real official dates and stuff, I did not have like a real official date
01:07:08.920
until a few years ago when somebody, actually, Mandolin, manager, she was setting up my dates too.
01:07:18.480
She literally told her friend from school, she was like, Laney has never been on like an official,
01:07:23.920
like, you know, somebody ask you to go somewhere, like a first date.
01:07:31.480
Because it's always been like I hung out with a dude or whatever and then we would go get some food.
01:07:37.600
He showed me what it was supposed to be like and...
01:07:51.280
And did he, and did y'all, did he open the door?
01:07:58.620
Like he walked me to my car and then, then we went and kind of, it was one of those things
01:08:02.840
where we knew neither one of us, we weren't going to date.
01:08:11.460
Like, he knows that I was just too much for him.
01:08:22.480
Not small, but like, I'm just, I'm pretty sassy.
01:08:39.160
We knew, like, after we hung out, I was like, yeah, we'll be friends.
01:08:43.520
It'll be, you know, when we see each other, we'll catch back up and a good boy.
01:08:49.780
He showed me that, like, yeah, it's okay to still be traditional.
01:08:59.920
I like a lot of traditions in our country, I think.
01:09:07.300
I think it's, like, it's nice to have, like, patterns and stuff, you know?
01:09:11.940
I mean, at the end of the day, like, I can tend to myself and take care of, you know, like,
01:09:17.200
I don't need somebody to open up a door for me, whatever.
01:09:20.280
But every now and then, it's nice to feel like, yeah, that's very nice.
01:09:27.520
Do you remember the first time you ever had a kiss?
01:09:33.540
You would kiss somebody with braces on, man, a pervert.
01:09:41.780
But, oh, if I'm kissing somebody with braces on, bro, take me to jail, bro.
01:09:53.860
Like, hammers and, you know, wrenches and stuff hanging along.
01:09:56.620
I was at my friend Katie's house, and her boyfriend had just left.
01:10:05.820
I could just tell how he was acting, like, he's going to try to kiss me tonight, so I need
01:10:09.840
But I was a little too prepared, because when I tell you, I just opened my mouth up wide
01:10:17.220
I literally was, like, trying to eat his face or something.
01:10:20.360
I don't know what, like, what made me think that I needed to just do this?
01:10:33.080
Well, yeah, look, if some chick comes at me with an open mouth, I think I'm going to
01:10:43.120
We played Spin the Bottle in this girl I loved.
01:10:54.280
And it was like, yeah, I had the chance to kiss her.
01:10:56.820
And I was like, I remember, like, leaning forward into the group.
01:11:00.920
They felt like they belonged to somebody else and somebody who was like somebody I didn't
01:11:07.380
It was like they were just, like, rattling, dude.
01:11:09.400
And I felt like you could hear my freaking bones rattling.
01:11:28.220
So y'all didn't go in, like, a closet or anything to.
01:11:37.900
And then I knew I felt like a fish trying to eat something.
01:11:48.340
And then I saw this other real creepy dude later that night brushing that girl's hair
01:12:15.140
But I like to just, you know, see what you think about stuff.
01:12:19.420
Was it like, I mean, obviously, it's exciting because Yellowstone's a big show.
01:12:30.720
So Yellowstone, I mean, they've been great to me.
01:12:33.100
They put several of my songs on the show, which really just introduced me to a crowd
01:12:38.660
of people who might not listen to radio or stream music.
01:12:41.880
I mean, I have people still, you know, come to the shows and they're like, before your acting
01:12:46.420
gig, like I found your music through Yellowstone.
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So it's crazy to think that a show's soundtrack is really like that helpful.
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And Taylor Sheridan, the writer and producer, he's just been good to me.
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I mean, he called me last February and he's like, he said, I got this idea.
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He said, I want to create a character specifically for you.
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And he said, wear your bell bottoms, sing your songs, pretty much be you, but go by a musician
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I've been acting a fool my whole life, but this was like, you know, the real thing.
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And this was like a huge thing considering it was my first too.
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But I will say there are a lot of similarities, like with what I normally do on a, on a daily
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And that, I mean, like, it's a lot of hurry up and wait.
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You, you're waiting for your, you know, your moment to shine and you got like a few minutes
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to show them what you can do, you know, or even when it comes to like learning the lines,
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I mean, I became great friends with a lot of them.
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She is so badass and she's actually really kind.
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When, when we first met, cause my very first scene was with her.
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So you should have heard mine in her conversation.
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She's still, you can tell that she's still got that spitfire spirit about her.
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I was like, okay, I thought you were going to put me in a headlock.
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Well, we're going to do the right thing with the bath salts.
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So, but tell me your first scene when you got to get out there and do it.
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Cause that's when it's scary when they're like at when the, when, you know, when they
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say action and it's on, like, you got to get that line out and your brain is like listening
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It's like you get stuck in that space kind of, I mean, what was any of that?
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I'll tell you, I was, I was real nervous, um, that day, but.
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But I have, I had a lot of family members praying for me that day for me to not be nervous
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and for me to just kind of be in my body and people were sending me good vibes.
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And, um, I really think that helped because when I got out there to do it for some crazy
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It was like, I had been doing it my whole life and I'm like, kind of freaked out that
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I was nervous for the kissing scene, my first kissing scene.
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I said, I'm going to be on the dang church prayer list back at home.
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I didn't know what to expect with all that either.
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He knows all the words to my songs better than I do.
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I mean, all the cowboys on that show, they, yeah.
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It's a real, it's a real lot of handsomers on there, huh?
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I know that some of the cast, but I've not seen this show, but yeah, he looks like a handsome
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That was the first, our first little interaction and.
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We, uh, we actually had, uh, a few days of working together before we actually had to,
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And I mean, I didn't, like I said, I didn't know, I didn't know if like we really needed
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Are y'all made on there too, or is it just kissing?
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But, you know, that's, that's as, as risque as it got.
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So isn't it, isn't it interesting, Lainey, to feel like your dream's coming true?
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What is that kind of like, you ever able to get in any moments like that?
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Like, you know, a lot, so many people have dreams in the world and it's hard to, you
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know, not all of us get to have them come true.
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I feel like we talk about this all the time, but it seems like the stars have to align over
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And they got to align again, you know, and I mean, you can work hard and, and keep your
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head down and, and do your thing or whatever, but it's still, it's got to have a little bit
01:18:43.460
Um, I feel, I feel like I've been, cause I've been here for so long and working at this
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ever since I was nine years old, I'm 30 years old.
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Like, you know, I feel like I've been like preparing for the race.
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Like I finally entered it and just now I'm about to run it.
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So I don't think I haven't had a moment where I'm like, oh, I've made it.
01:19:09.660
You know, I feel like things are coming to fruition, but I also feel like there's a lot
01:19:17.500
It's almost like when you've, cause there's times, there's times when you're going through
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your career, you're like, I should be having this opportunity.
01:19:24.940
But then you realize later that if you'd have gotten those opportunities at that point,
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And I don't think you look a day over probably 20.
01:19:46.800
And I'll keep going until we get, you know, until everything seems okay.
01:19:52.580
I will say for the longest time, people made me feel like, like, don't talk about your
01:20:04.560
I'm proud, you know, that it has taken me this long because I feel like time is a part
01:20:10.360
And I feel like it's, I don't know, you know, I want to, I want to show little girls and
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boys that sometimes it's going to take you a little longer than some folks.
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I mean, I moved to this town and people were passing me up left and right, getting publishing
01:20:24.540
And at the end of the day, sometimes slow and steady, you know, is better.
01:20:29.100
And I feel like I've been trying to do brick by brick, just one thing at a time.
01:20:35.120
I don't want to just be a flash in the pan and I'm not, I'm not doing that.
01:20:44.560
And it's funny because if I listen to heart, like a truck, right.
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Like, but you're 24 years old, I, it's not, I don't believe that.
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I mean, there's definitely times where I wish it wouldn't have been that way.
01:21:03.780
I mean, I mean, even it's weird because like I'm experiencing like really great things with
01:21:12.200
Even when I was filming Yellowstone, I was going through, like we were losing my daddy.
01:21:16.700
He ended up surviving, but like he spent two months in ICU and I was having to actually
01:21:24.220
I would go over to the corner and cry and then come back and then shoot it again.
01:21:27.960
And it just seems sometimes I'm like, man, am I supposed to go through these things so
01:21:33.920
I can be more relatable to people and, and be more understanding and be able to write the
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kind of music that people are really gonna connect to and listen to.
01:21:42.880
And that's kind of what I chalk it up to sometimes.
01:21:53.000
I feel like sometimes like God has a way of reaching people.
01:21:57.260
And not to make it religious or anything, but it's like, sometimes you're just part of
01:22:02.500
And it's not even, yeah, it's, you have talents and stuff, but it's like, sometimes
01:22:07.100
some things they're so, especially with music, it's like, man, this thing is, and so many
01:22:12.340
people have written and, you know, there's other people playing and it's like really to
01:22:20.800
I like the best way for me to explain it to people who ask about the industry.
01:22:24.700
I just say, it's like the artist is like at the center of the wheel and there's a million
01:22:29.720
different spokes, I mean, you got your label, you got your management, you got your business
01:22:33.680
management, you got your tour manager, you got your band, you got publicity, you got
01:22:38.320
publishing, so many different spokes to the wheel and all of them have to be turning
01:23:07.340
That kind of took out the left side of the inside of his face.
01:23:11.640
So anything that this fungus touched, just, it turned to dirt.
01:23:16.520
It's like the most like aggressive type of fungus there is.
01:23:27.960
And he's actually the, with the people who were kind of like leading the case and stuff,
01:23:31.940
he's the second person to ever survive it that they've worked with.
01:23:35.160
And with a few of the doctors, he's the first one to ever survive it.
01:23:38.800
But he had nine surgeries in a month and a half.
01:23:53.660
But actually, this past week, a big old praise report.
01:23:58.820
He went back to work several, just for like a couple hours, just to go up there and kind
01:24:15.900
I mean, he's still driving the tractor and he's doing stuff like that.
01:24:18.780
But ready for him to start having some more interactions with people.
01:24:22.380
Cause I think just interacting with, with people is healing in general.
01:24:30.900
I felt, I've just felt so off my, I don't even know what's going on today.
01:24:40.640
For me, it's like, it's just like that mojo that, that you find right before you go on stage.
01:24:46.860
Sometimes it's hard to find that like impossible.
01:24:53.360
Is it, is, are there, are there shows in, obviously I'm sure all of your shows are great.
01:24:57.340
Are there shows in moments where it's like, are there some shows where for some reason
01:25:05.420
I don't know if it's like that with music at all.
01:25:09.440
I feed off the crowd and you probably do the same exact thing.
01:25:18.560
If their energy is down here, that's, that's kind of where I'm at too.
01:25:20.980
Um, I mean, one little thing can throw the show all off.
01:25:24.700
Like the other night I had somebody spit at me.
01:25:28.360
I'm like, why are you going to pay for a ticket?
01:25:32.800
And I had that in my brain the whole night, you know?
01:25:37.020
And then it kind of, you'd need to go down rabbit holes of, why are they spitting at me?
01:25:43.160
Then you see somebody just spitting like dip and you're like, fuck him.
01:25:58.860
Some girl was just, and usually for comedy, you want people to be quiet.
01:26:06.240
You want it to be silenced because you'll use the silence to kind of create the next moment
01:26:12.280
So you want them to laugh when they're, you know, when it's funny, but you want them to
01:26:14.940
otherwise kind of, and people want to yell out stuff, you know, and just yell out cocaine
01:26:19.220
and all kinds of weird shit sometimes, you know?
01:26:21.100
And everybody on the crowd saying free bird, free bird.
01:26:23.420
And I'm like, the amount of times I've heard that.
01:26:27.500
It's like the other night, the show was just, it threw everything off so much in the beginning
01:26:31.840
I felt like, you know, I know I get that and it's hard to kind of come back from it.
01:26:39.300
It's just, and sometimes you just got to chalk it up to that's just how the night went.
01:26:47.240
Cause there's times where I'll get off stage and I'll tell my band like, oh my gosh, I was
01:26:56.520
Or I was like, I was searching for that certain feeling, you know?
01:27:03.280
So therefore I feel like I like let myself down or let everybody else down.
01:27:06.220
And the band was like, oh my gosh, to me, that was one of the best shows that we played
01:27:13.980
And then there's times where they're like, I did terrible tonight.
01:27:16.460
And I'm like, this is the best show we've ever played because of that feeling.
01:27:23.160
I'm looking for some feeling that I think that, that I usually get when the show feels
01:27:30.900
No, they're, they're thinking that is the best thing I've ever seen.
01:27:38.780
We had a, yeah, usually it's a woman that gets crazy at a, at a comedy show.
01:27:42.620
Sometimes it's like a, a lot of times it's a woman that'll get outrageous kind of.
01:27:54.380
Because then it just sidetracks you completely.
01:27:56.180
But then you have to deal with her husband or boyfriend.
01:27:57.200
And he's like, you know, muffin never gets drunk.
01:28:00.680
And I'm like, well, first of all, muffin gets drunk.
01:28:03.560
And muffin is drunk tonight and muffin got to go.
01:28:16.880
I mean, obviously your career just really speaks for itself.
01:28:19.460
You know, I'm, I'm grateful that we got to sit and chat a little bit.
01:28:24.880
For you, do you have little pieces of the puzzle that help you start writing a song, finish a song?
01:28:30.560
What do you tell those writers listening to you right now?
01:28:41.960
Basically like, no, here's the, the easy version.
01:28:47.760
Because it's probably pretty dang similar to like the way that you write.
01:28:53.060
For me, the cool thing about songwriting is it's different every single time I sit down.
01:28:58.380
I mean, I feel like some people, you know, they start with one thing pretty much all the time.
01:29:07.940
Um, but no matter what, it always starts with an idea for me.
01:29:14.020
I keep this little list in my phone called my hook book.
01:29:17.400
And that's where I just, you know, probably, you probably do the same thing.
01:29:25.140
So, then I'll look through there, but at the end of the day, I feel like I've been given the opportunity to write with so many incredible writers here in Nashville that they've kind of taught me how to put myself into the shoes of whatever it is that we're writing about.
01:29:40.380
I mean, if we wanted to write about this thing right here, you know, then they've kind of taught me how to like feel that for everything that it is and write from that perspective, which is pretty dang therapeutic.
01:29:54.060
So, you find there's a lot of therapy in it, really.
01:29:56.700
And sometimes, I mean, of course, a lot of my songs I have and most of the songs that I end up cutting are songs that are super personal to me, but there is something really cool about kind of just stepping outside of your shoes for a minute and putting yourself into somebody else's.
01:30:21.660
Like I said, I wrote my first song at nine years old.
01:30:23.820
And when I moved here to Nashville, that's what songwriting was the foot that I led with.
01:30:31.780
And that's the only way that I could, you know, maybe get my foot in the door was through my songwriting.
01:30:37.060
So, it serves a very, it's a special thing in my life.
01:30:49.420
I used to, yeah, sometimes when I was working on that tractor, I would stop it and I would stand out on it and listen to like top 40 country.
01:30:56.080
And it was like Clay Walker was, he had this song called She's Always Right.
01:31:01.080
And I would like sing that at the top of my lungs.
01:31:06.360
Like, did you, was there a point where you thought you would just be a songwriter?
01:31:18.980
Like, I just wonder, like, because sometimes with comedians, right?
01:31:21.840
There's, you do comedy and then sometimes you're like, oh, I'm just going to be a writer.
01:31:27.360
Or like a Fallon or like what you were just on or like, you know, or I'm going to write for a comedian.
01:31:33.300
But I don't know if the dream ever goes away to just do comedy, but sometimes life gets in the way.
01:31:50.700
But I had somebody who was, who I was working with at the time who made me believe you can't be both.
01:32:06.720
And I'm like, no, look around at some of the most successful artists.
01:32:12.340
I mean, decades and decades for decades, you know, they write their own stuff and they sing their own stuff.
01:32:18.960
And it doesn't mean that I'm opposed to, you know, cutting outside songs at the end of the day.
01:32:23.500
Like I said, the best idea and the best song wins.
01:32:40.240
You shouldn't be scared to step outside of the box.
01:32:43.420
And in my opinion, that's not even really stepping outside of the box.
01:32:55.420
Yeah, you can beat the shit out of me if you want.
01:32:58.480
I'm like, are they going to put it on the camera or are we going to do it afterwards?
01:33:10.260
You can beat the damn devil out of me if we want.
01:33:19.380
Dude, Bibles should come with a little bat with them.
01:33:23.680
Because some people really need to be beaten about.
01:33:33.960
God, I fell in love every time I heard this dang song.
01:33:53.940
I mean, I feel like you get along with everybody, but.
01:34:06.280
But anyway, congratulations on all your success.
01:34:14.000
We are doing my first headlining tour right now called Country with a Flair.
01:34:18.400
We got my friends, Meg McCree, Ben Chapman, and Leah Blevins out with us and love them,
01:34:27.000
It's nice to feel like I'm finally able to, like I'm in a position where I could help somebody
01:34:31.280
else because I've had so many people help me along the way.
01:34:41.220
So, doing that, we are going out with Luke Combs for the stadium tour.
01:34:47.300
Which is a full circle thing for me because he used to come over to my camper and we'd
01:34:53.320
We've got, I mean, so many things, exciting things this year and hopefully be filming some
01:35:03.200
So, people can just go, well, obviously, they can get tickets to the Luke Combs show and then
01:35:21.860
I mean, I played a, yeah, March of last year in Tuscaloosa.
01:35:27.780
We had had a hit with Things a Man Ought to Know and Never Say Never with Cole Swindell
01:35:36.400
I see, like, there were so many things that we had done, but I still could barely sell
01:35:42.600
I sold, like, was it 100 or like 91 tickets or something like that.
01:35:49.900
And it was like, where, like, where is this not connecting?
01:35:58.540
But still, at that time, I was pretty faceless.
01:36:01.260
I think that's what happens with a lot of artists.
01:36:04.760
So explain that to me when you say faceless, because this is interesting.
01:36:07.260
I think a lot of people know songs on the radio.
01:36:10.280
I think during that time, if you would have asked anybody who listens to country music,
01:36:13.920
like, you know that song, Things a Man Ought to Know?
01:36:17.040
They all would have said yes, but they did not know me.
01:36:24.940
And I think that's really where Yellowstone has been so beneficial, because, you know,
01:36:30.720
they see your name up on the screen and stuff, and then they finally just, like, see your
01:36:37.560
And then they have to see it a million other times for it to really, really connect.
01:36:43.280
Yeah, you have to have, like, 12 to 15 impressions for people to even, like, remember, or be
01:36:56.900
Because there's just so much out there in the world.
01:37:01.140
I mean, I spend half my day watching Mentally Unwell people do, you know, go to the mailbox
01:37:07.440
And so it's like, yeah, it's crazy, because, like you said, Lucas Nelson, right, was somebody
01:37:20.900
I actually have not even met Lucas in person yet, either.
01:37:30.840
Yeah, he actually, he lives in Hawaii half of the year.
01:37:36.440
And we FaceTimed and got it done, but, I mean, he's such a cool dude.
01:37:58.160
Just talking about, like, the faceless, like, the disconnect.
01:38:01.260
Well, yeah, so to get people to see you, right?
01:38:06.180
But it's like, yeah, I wouldn't be able to put his face.
01:38:13.220
But this, you know, some of these, like, I could pick out this one dude who has, like,
01:38:19.520
you know, there's, like, a guy who's kind of mentally handicapped, and he opens baseball
01:38:23.500
cards all day, and if I saw that dude, I would lose my mind.
01:38:26.740
It's just crazy how they have, you know, different things you're into.
01:38:40.980
Like, the baby's dad would be like, hey, that's my...
01:38:47.760
But it's, like, just the things that take your attention.
01:38:50.500
Well, I think you've got everybody's attention now.
01:38:54.000
I mean, once I heard your voice, I don't think I could ever...
01:39:01.560
And thank you so much for just spending time with us.
01:39:06.260
Now I'm just floating on the breeze, and I feel I'm falling like these leaves.
01:39:17.360
Oh, but when I reach that ground, I'll share this peace of mind I found.
01:39:31.360
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01:39:36.560
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01:40:10.300
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01:40:14.760
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