This Past Weekend with Theo Von - E435 George Kittle

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00:01:45.580 Today's guest is an NFL tight end for the San Francisco 49ers.

00:01:51.280 He's an all-pro, four-time pro bowler.

00:01:54.420 He is hype.

00:01:57.040 He is hype.

00:01:58.720 He's the savage masseuse.

00:02:03.240 He's Captain Violence himself.

00:02:06.800 Today's guest is Mr. George Kittle.

00:02:08.940 Shine that light on me

00:02:13.000 I'll sit and tell you my stories

00:02:18.980 Shine on me

00:02:23.700 And I will find a song

00:02:27.920 I've been singing

00:02:29.120 I love this guy.

00:02:30.020 I just got out of the ice plunge, so.

00:02:38.980 Ooh, how long do you go for?

00:02:40.640 I go for 10 minutes.

00:02:43.040 Awesome.

00:02:43.860 10 minutes?

00:02:44.400 How cold?

00:02:46.060 Now that's kind of the negotiable part, I think.

00:02:48.500 I agree with you.

00:02:49.680 I go for, right now I'm at 50.

00:02:51.880 Oh yeah, dude, for sure.

00:02:53.020 I think if you're under like 50 degrees to like 40, I think you're doing a really good job.

00:02:58.840 Yeah.

00:02:59.500 Yeah?

00:03:00.160 Yeah.

00:03:00.480 Yeah, because some guys, it's like they want to get as cold as they can.

00:03:03.360 They like want to like, they just want to be so cold and they want to just like be like,

00:03:07.860 I'm the coldest guy, you know?

00:03:09.640 Congratulations.

00:03:10.260 Yeah.

00:03:11.160 Yeah, sure.

00:03:12.560 Yeah, congratulations, right?

00:03:14.160 Like you're not, yeah, if you want to be that cold, then move to like the North Pole or something.

00:03:20.580 But don't just pretend you're like the, you're fucking Santa, you know, just because you're in your garage.

00:03:27.140 Do we have, at San Francisco, we have two ice tubs and one's at 39 degrees.

00:03:31.400 The other one's at like 45 and I'm in the, like the 39 degree.

00:03:34.660 It's like, what are we doing?

00:03:35.640 That's what Bosa does all the time.

00:03:37.780 Yeah.

00:03:38.040 He likes that one.

00:03:38.800 He loves being cold.

00:03:39.980 But like my pool in California, it's, it's not heated.

00:03:43.520 And so by mid-October, it's like, it's like 52.

00:03:47.860 And then by the time you get through halfway through November, it's like 46.

00:03:50.840 And I just jump in every morning at 6.30 a.m.

00:03:53.140 Oh, wow.

00:03:53.760 It's awesome.

00:03:54.280 Great way to start your day.

00:03:55.420 Yeah.

00:03:55.660 Yeah.

00:03:56.020 It definitely changes my whole perception.

00:03:58.240 It kind of takes me out of my brain.

00:04:01.520 I noticed and puts me into my body.

00:04:03.380 For sure, dude.

00:04:04.100 I love it.

00:04:04.960 I just jump right in.

00:04:06.560 You're in there for, I mean, I usually do like three, three to five minutes.

00:04:09.800 I'm ready to roll for the whole day.

00:04:11.300 Oh, really?

00:04:12.060 Yeah.

00:04:12.200 That's about all I need.

00:04:12.980 Yeah.

00:04:13.720 I do.

00:04:14.160 Like there's days, like if I have like a recovery day, cause like most of the time, like I have

00:04:17.280 to leave my house by 7 a.m.

00:04:18.840 And also I don't make it to meetings and stuff like that.

00:04:20.520 So, and I don't really want to wake up at, I mean, six, I don't like to wake up before

00:04:24.540 six.

00:04:24.920 Cause as soon as you see like a five on your alarm clock, it sucks.

00:04:28.300 Yeah.

00:04:28.580 There is something about that.

00:04:29.500 I think that makes you be like, Oh, what's going on here?

00:04:31.900 Like I'm a senior citizen or something.

00:04:34.660 Like they like that five, you know?

00:04:36.560 Dude, it's terrible.

00:04:37.320 I was talking to Taylor one today.

00:04:38.880 He was like, yeah, my workout started at 5 a.m.

00:04:40.480 I was like, why?

00:04:42.660 That's great.

00:04:43.100 Yeah.

00:04:43.300 Why?

00:04:43.640 Especially if you're just going to get hurt every year and not even play.

00:04:48.100 Oh, well maybe it's new.

00:04:50.120 Maybe this is his change.

00:04:51.340 Maybe he's doing something different.

00:04:52.580 Yeah.

00:04:52.820 You know, Hey Taylor, he'll be healthy, man.

00:04:54.760 He'll be fine.

00:04:55.580 He's got a couple of tough breaks.

00:04:56.840 It's a, it is what it is.

00:04:58.140 Yeah, it is.

00:04:58.800 Some of it I think is his attitude gets stuck in his knees to him.

00:05:01.340 Fucking ruins them.

00:05:02.340 There's something about when you get hurt, you definitely overthink about it.

00:05:05.880 Both from your recovery standpoint.

00:05:07.300 And then once you get back onto the football field, like that's all you can think about.

00:05:10.320 Like, just don't do it again.

00:05:11.140 Just don't do it again.

00:05:11.740 And the second you start thinking like that, that's when it happens again.

00:05:14.340 Have you noticed that?

00:05:15.140 Cause you had a, you had a break, right?

00:05:16.720 I broke my foot in 2020.

00:05:18.100 Yeah.

00:05:18.580 Cuboid.

00:05:19.120 It's like up here.

00:05:20.640 Yeah.

00:05:20.960 And then I, so I was, I came back in five weeks and then the next like five practices,

00:05:26.060 all that's all you could think about and it's sucks.

00:05:28.680 And then you go through a whole off season and then you kind of forget about it, but still

00:05:31.480 you get back into football.

00:05:32.280 That's still what you're thinking about.

00:05:33.240 Like, just don't break it again.

00:05:34.980 And then like, after a while you just get comfortable and you just forget about it.

00:05:37.580 Were there routes and stuff that you would adjust and not do because you just to take

00:05:41.980 the pressure off of it?

00:05:42.800 Just like planting really hard on it.

00:05:44.460 It kind of just freaked me out a little bit because the way I broke it too, didn't really

00:05:47.840 make any sense.

00:05:48.520 I just kind of got hit when my foot was in the ground and it just kind of gave out.

00:05:51.460 So I was just kind of more cautious, more careful, like picking up my feet when I was

00:05:55.060 getting hit and stuff like that.

00:05:55.980 But then like, it's a bone, it heals, take a lot of collagen, drink a lot of milk.

00:05:59.980 It is what it is.

00:06:00.860 Yeah.

00:06:03.100 You look great today, by the way.

00:06:04.440 Thanks, man.

00:06:05.300 I feel pretty good.

00:06:06.040 I think getting in that ice plunge, it does, it alters my perception.

00:06:09.540 It alters my perspective.

00:06:10.960 You know, it's like-

00:06:11.400 Yeah, so talk to me about that.

00:06:12.280 That's what I'll, it's like, I notice if I'm in like kind of a rough mood or I'm kind

00:06:15.980 of like, I want to feel a little bit more kind of in my body.

00:06:20.840 If I'm just too much in my head, I'm like, I want to get in my body and I want to, and

00:06:25.960 I don't want to do it.

00:06:27.060 So it's like, let me do something I don't want to do.

00:06:29.500 Yeah.

00:06:29.680 That's, that's how I see it.

00:06:30.580 My thing is, I, so I like to do it the first, I wake up, go downstairs and I just jump in

00:06:35.740 my pool.

00:06:36.160 And it's just like, the first thing I do to start my day is something that's not really

00:06:40.380 fun.

00:06:40.820 Yeah.

00:06:41.160 But like now I enjoy doing it because I feel great when you get done with it, but like you

00:06:44.460 just, you accomplish something that really sucks.

00:06:46.600 Yeah.

00:06:46.960 And then the rest of your day, like, yeah, you can be dealing with other stuff, other issues,

00:06:49.880 but like, you're doing one thing that's difficult to do that not a lot of people like to do.

00:06:52.800 And she's like, all right, I'm going to start my day off by accomplishing something.

00:06:55.900 Look, that's gangster.

00:06:56.800 Yeah.

00:06:57.180 Yeah.

00:06:57.420 I think that's it, man.

00:06:58.380 I think it's like, yeah, how can I do something today that I don't want to do?

00:07:01.220 It does make everything else a little bit easier then.

00:07:03.680 It's even like going, like going with, with going and working out.

00:07:06.180 Like actually I get a little bit excited.

00:07:08.100 Cause like, um, I work out down there with Jeremy holding those guys, you know, I J holes at my

00:07:12.840 house today.

00:07:13.340 Oh, was he really?

00:07:13.960 Yeah.

00:07:14.280 Oh, dang.

00:07:15.000 Oh, he's my favorite.

00:07:15.580 Oh, he's unbelievable, but he's also like, he like dresses, like he's trying to get molested.

00:07:21.820 I feel like, is that a crazy thing to say?

00:07:23.880 He is a handsome dude, 24 seven, man.

00:07:25.880 He smells like a barbershop too.

00:07:27.080 Every time.

00:07:27.700 But I think that I think is in the urban community, there's a lot better.

00:07:32.900 They, they tend to be a lot more fragrant.

00:07:35.840 Yeah.

00:07:36.480 You're not wrong.

00:07:37.320 Jeremy smells good all the time.

00:07:38.480 I do.

00:07:38.880 I always try.

00:07:39.600 We got under his skin.

00:07:40.560 Sometimes we always tell him that he needs to brush his teeth once in a while, which he does,

00:07:43.500 but it's just, it's a fun way to talk shit to somebody.

00:07:45.600 Cause not really much you can do if your breath smells like shit.

00:07:47.980 Oh, does his breath smell bad?

00:07:49.160 No, it's just a fun joke that we play on him.

00:07:50.920 Cause there's not really much of a comeback to that.

00:07:52.680 Oh yeah, that's true.

00:07:53.540 Huh?

00:07:53.860 Yeah.

00:07:54.100 Dude, go brush your teeth.

00:07:54.980 Yeah.

00:07:55.100 You're like, fuck you.

00:07:55.780 And you're like, Hey, do I really need my breath really bad?

00:07:57.560 That's what people always do.

00:07:59.180 That's literally what it is.

00:08:00.760 Bro.

00:08:00.940 That is the best dude.

00:08:02.340 The, the, the worst thing is, is when somebody does have horrible breath and especially like if they're

00:08:06.940 at like a nightclub or something and somebody's breath is bad.

00:08:09.760 Brutal.

00:08:10.400 Oh.

00:08:10.720 And you know what?

00:08:11.780 A lot, a lot of times, bro, I won't tell them, dude.

00:08:13.680 Depends on if I like them or not.

00:08:15.380 I feel you.

00:08:16.180 You got to be honest with like, if it's a buddy, I'll definitely tell them.

00:08:19.580 But if it's somebody.

00:08:20.600 So if you've got a friend who has something in their teeth, do you tell them?

00:08:24.400 Not if it's a girl.

00:08:25.620 So, okay.

00:08:26.040 Get this.

00:08:26.480 I was at the pro bowl two years ago and one of the reporters there, I'd like, I was kind

00:08:32.560 of going down the line.

00:08:33.160 You have to talk to a certain amount of people.

00:08:34.420 And, uh, I, she probably interviewed like six people before she got to me.

00:08:38.380 And she just had a huge, like piece of spinach in her front two teeth.

00:08:41.940 And I was like, you were just on air with six people and no one told you, you have a camera

00:08:45.220 guy with four feet from your face.

00:08:47.040 I told her right when I started the interview, I was like, you have something in your teeth.

00:08:49.620 I was like, I don't know.

00:08:51.180 I would be so embarrassed if I just said something in my teeth the entire time.

00:08:53.880 And no one told me like, come on.

00:08:55.300 I thought we were friends.

00:08:56.480 And women that shakes them to the core.

00:08:58.260 Oh, it's almost like telling them that they don't even exist.

00:09:00.980 I know that sounds crazy, but you tell a woman, cause it's like, for some reason, it

00:09:07.120 seems to be the only thing they care about.

00:09:09.000 Oh, dude, man.

00:09:10.180 They're always like, um, speaking of women, man, your sister taught me yoga.

00:09:15.600 Yeah, I know.

00:09:16.540 That's what she was like.

00:09:17.140 I'm teaching Theo van yoga.

00:09:18.480 And I was like, really?

00:09:19.740 That's awesome.

00:09:20.600 It was so cool, man.

00:09:21.800 Was that here?

00:09:23.120 Yeah.

00:09:23.480 Yeah.

00:09:23.660 Right here.

00:09:24.040 She taught me yoga.

00:09:24.700 Cause I think you guys didn't live very far away.

00:09:27.540 We literally live a block away.

00:09:28.820 Live.

00:09:29.400 Yeah.

00:09:29.660 I sold that.

00:09:30.160 We live out, uh, like West of Nashville now, but yeah, we lived there for two years.

00:09:33.800 Yeah.

00:09:34.420 So it was a pretty easy, uh, uh, commute.

00:09:37.000 She was the best man.

00:09:38.240 She was like very, she's like very like, like kind of like ladylike and motherly, but

00:09:46.560 like very like sent, like a sensei kind of she's, she, she vibes.

00:09:51.900 Yes.

00:09:52.320 She's got a great vibe to her.

00:09:53.460 Yeah.

00:09:53.640 She's like a vibe surfer or something.

00:09:55.580 Like, you know, she's like the female Laird Hamilton of vibes.

00:09:58.600 I feel like that's a savage compliment, man.

00:10:00.640 Yeah.

00:10:01.460 And she, um, dude, she had me do this thing one time.

00:10:05.020 It was like wearing these things between my toes.

00:10:08.400 Right.

00:10:08.860 Yeah.

00:10:09.480 And it's like yoga toes or.

00:10:11.840 I mean, it's just like this thing you wear at night.

00:10:13.980 It's almost like a spacers.

00:10:15.780 Yes.

00:10:16.400 What color were they blue or what?

00:10:17.640 They were, uh, well, I tried the fricking blue ones, dude.

00:10:19.840 The blue ones, dude, I couldn't.

00:10:21.260 I'm obsessed with those.

00:10:22.360 The blue ones I see you could probably do, but can you pull up those toe spacers?

00:10:26.640 Oh yeah, dude.

00:10:27.320 I, uh, I got into those.

00:10:28.360 She had me, she got me into those.

00:10:29.580 Right.

00:10:29.800 So they're awesome.

00:10:30.780 Whenever I take my Netflix, this Netflix special that I did, um, she had been teaching

00:10:36.280 me, right?

00:10:36.500 So if you see me walk, I'm walking out like this cause she taught me how to walk like a

00:10:40.860 paleolithic.

00:10:41.780 Yeah, no, I know exactly what you're talking about, dude.

00:10:43.640 We talk about that stuff all the time.

00:10:44.980 Right here.

00:10:45.440 This kind of stuff.

00:10:46.100 Oh yeah, dude.

00:10:46.840 Yeah.

00:10:47.080 The, those are the small ones.

00:10:48.460 They, they have a way bigger one.

00:10:50.120 Uh, they're massive and blue.

00:10:52.200 Oh, the big one.

00:10:52.800 I felt like a whore with the bigger ones in.

00:10:54.940 They space you out, man.

00:10:56.900 Big gaps.

00:10:58.160 It was like, God.

00:10:59.600 Well now, is this a foot only fans account?

00:11:02.580 Is that where we're looking?

00:11:03.280 Is this a podcast?

00:11:04.780 I don't know.

00:11:05.560 How do people make money off that, man?

00:11:07.720 That foot fetish.

00:11:08.480 Well, foot fetish was the thing I think.

00:11:10.260 Help me out.

00:11:10.680 Help me understand this.

00:11:11.540 Cause I don't understand it.

00:11:12.660 I would guess if you are, I don't think it's a lot of American money.

00:11:17.060 I think it's like a lot of yen that people spend on it.

00:11:20.900 Those guys like it because I think they're Japanese feet are very little.

00:11:26.960 Dude.

00:11:27.440 You could eat probably a dozen of them.

00:11:29.940 And I think for context, that makes sense to me.

00:11:32.480 Sure.

00:11:32.560 Yeah.

00:11:32.860 Yeah.

00:11:33.080 Totally.

00:11:33.560 You're like, okay.

00:11:34.100 It's like going to wing stop and getting a 10 piece bone in or bone out, man.

00:11:39.060 Oh, I think if you're going Japanese feet, dude, I'm keeping the bone in.

00:11:42.320 I want all of it.

00:11:43.720 I think I want the marrow.

00:11:45.120 I want all the fricking, you know, the gifts of the Orient, I feel like.

00:11:48.780 But I do think that that is what it is.

00:11:52.600 They don't have very long.

00:11:54.020 It's not like a precious thing over there.

00:11:57.580 It's almost like, you know, it's so they don't get to see it.

00:12:01.860 So I think for them seeing like a long foot with toenail polish and stuff, it's very fantastical

00:12:07.860 to them.

00:12:08.220 My, uh, Emma's a fiance, Cody, he's a pitcher in Japan.

00:12:13.360 And so he's like six, five.

00:12:15.580 And he says that the next closest person hardly goes to his chest.

00:12:19.260 And so he just stands out like a sore thumb.

00:12:21.840 And I was like, that's actually crazy.

00:12:23.040 So then you think about feet, like he's a size 14, 15.

00:12:26.980 That's, that's, that's a lot for, that's a lot out there.

00:12:29.980 Yeah.

00:12:30.140 He should, we'll get the picks up there for him.

00:12:32.020 And I think this, yeah, I don't know if there's a market for it for men.

00:12:35.680 Yeah.

00:12:35.960 What is going on with that foot?

00:12:37.620 Why do people have foot fetish?

00:12:39.380 Can you look it up, please?

00:12:40.720 I'm going to call into your show and ask you that question.

00:12:43.700 But you came here and asked it.

00:12:46.140 I know, but I'll just call in next time.

00:12:48.420 Hey man, this is George.

00:12:49.520 I was there a couple of weeks ago.

00:12:51.440 You've solved this mystery yet.

00:12:53.640 Oh, one researcher proposes that the fetish is due to sensory input in the brain.

00:12:57.840 And the neuroscientist Vilayaner Ramachandran suggests that the part of the brain that processes

00:13:06.580 the sensation people get from feet is next to the area that perceives genital stimulation.

00:13:11.340 Oh, interesting.

00:13:13.500 Right on.

00:13:13.940 So if people want to see that foot, they want to see it.

00:13:16.600 It gets them going.

00:13:17.640 Gets the blood going.

00:13:18.660 Yeah.

00:13:19.360 I think they're-

00:13:19.960 I have this exact same thing.

00:13:21.340 You do?

00:13:21.740 Yeah, it's a nice one.

00:13:22.560 The legacy flag guy made it for you?

00:13:24.020 I think so, yeah.

00:13:24.680 He hit me up like four years ago and he made it for me.

00:13:26.700 And I was like, dude, thanks.

00:13:27.720 Yeah, it's hanging in my house.

00:13:28.500 It's in my barn.

00:13:29.140 Oh, that's awesome, man.

00:13:30.000 I love it.

00:13:30.820 Yeah, he sent us this one and another one.

00:13:34.060 We'll have to, we'll put his info up actually right now.

00:13:37.040 He's done so much.

00:13:37.700 He does beautiful flags.

00:13:39.700 So I'm going to make sure that we put it on the screen right now.

00:13:41.360 There's nothing like a cool wooden American flag.

00:13:43.380 It's awesome.

00:13:43.920 Like Nick Bosa has, I'm pretty sure that exact same one in the back of his locker.

00:13:47.300 Oh, wow.

00:13:47.900 It's awesome.

00:13:48.320 Oh, really?

00:13:48.680 In his locker?

00:13:49.280 Yeah, just in the back of his locker.

00:13:50.400 I think he got shipped there and he was like, this is cool.

00:13:52.100 And just set it back there.

00:13:52.820 Oh, that's crazy.

00:13:55.240 But yeah, I guess that makes sense about a foot because I think also if you think back

00:13:58.820 into maybe, I wonder if like in old times you could, but if people were like cave

00:14:04.000 people, then you saw the foot all the time, you know?

00:14:06.520 Very true.

00:14:07.580 I'm just trying to think.

00:14:08.640 They weren't really pretty back then though, were they?

00:14:10.240 No, I'm sure.

00:14:11.060 Kind of like hobbit feet.

00:14:12.440 Oh yeah.

00:14:13.680 I'm sure they were very.

00:14:15.560 Thick, muscular.

00:14:17.040 I bet you they were spread out though.

00:14:18.820 Yeah.

00:14:19.140 Very flat, huh?

00:14:20.140 Flat, wide toes.

00:14:21.700 I mean like, cause you see the photos like indigenous people and their feet, they're literally

00:14:25.640 like, they look like hands.

00:14:27.080 Yeah.

00:14:27.620 Oh my gosh.

00:14:28.280 It's crazy.

00:14:29.040 And then everyone's like, that's the healthy way.

00:14:31.720 Like that's what your feet want to look like.

00:14:32.900 Your shoes make your, you know, they close your toe box in all that.

00:14:36.320 That stuff.

00:14:36.700 Well, it's kind of hard for me cause my profession, I have to wear cleats that are small and.

00:14:40.360 Oh, you got to keep them tight, huh?

00:14:41.620 Well, to an extent, like I tried, like I wear the toe space.

00:14:43.660 I try to spread them out and keep my feet as healthy as I can.

00:14:45.480 But like, once you get to training camp and you're, I mean, you're taking like a couple

00:14:49.240 hundred reps a day, it doesn't really help too much.

00:14:51.900 It's like your feet just got to get, you got to build a callus to it basically is what you

00:14:55.080 do.

00:14:55.280 But then now I'm out of cleats right now for a couple of weeks and it's like your feet

00:14:57.860 just lose that callus.

00:14:59.420 I have to get back into it every single year.

00:15:01.060 It's wild.

00:15:01.720 Your feet kind of relax almost.

00:15:03.100 Can you, do you almost notice it and feel it?

00:15:04.660 Oh yeah.

00:15:05.060 Like my feet feel significantly better a month after the season than they do the entire

00:15:09.080 duration.

00:15:09.920 Yeah.

00:15:10.060 It's wild.

00:15:10.980 Yeah.

00:15:11.080 Like I don't, this was a, I learned this cause I like pedicures.

00:15:13.960 It feels fantastic.

00:15:15.000 I like getting my feet massaged.

00:15:16.800 It's really nice.

00:15:17.540 Get them cleaned up.

00:15:18.920 But like in the season, I don't get a pedicure for the entire season cause I don't want to

00:15:22.440 lose any of the callus.

00:15:23.260 Like on the bottom of my feet, I don't want any of it scraped off because your feet basically

00:15:27.040 just become these, these thick blocks and you just gotta, especially like where I am,

00:15:30.240 I'm in the interior office, I'm in the office of line and basically all the time.

00:15:33.020 And so I get stepped on 24 seven.

00:15:35.040 So like, I like having tough feet, but then as soon as the season's over, I'm back getting

00:15:38.600 pedicures and stuff.

00:15:39.340 It's fantastic.

00:15:40.200 So you want to keep whatever you can, whatever a little extra you can get.

00:15:43.720 Yeah.

00:15:43.980 It's like, I, I, hopefully I, my skin is thicker about halfway through the season.

00:15:47.760 Dang.

00:15:48.260 It's wild.

00:15:48.780 Do y'all take stuff that can make your skin thicker?

00:15:51.720 I don't know.

00:15:52.320 Like, I mean, like we have a lot of supplements, uh, um, are like our team provides us and I'm

00:15:57.740 just big.

00:15:58.160 I do a ton.

00:15:58.820 I like collagen.

00:15:59.500 Like that's my big thing.

00:16:00.980 Collagen and orange juice.

00:16:02.340 And then any type of calcium I can get, like, those are my two big things, but that's

00:16:05.880 a good thing to look into.

00:16:06.780 Why not?

00:16:07.620 I mean, like you see like my shins right here, that's just all cleats.

00:16:10.180 Oh, dang.

00:16:11.040 Yeah.

00:16:11.260 Like my shins are just permanently cut up for like my, the rest of my life.

00:16:14.780 Damn.

00:16:15.480 Cleats aren't really fun to get kicked by.

00:16:17.480 Yeah.

00:16:17.800 And do you get to wear shin pads or not?

00:16:19.700 So the only guy that ever did that, I'm pretty sure it's like Cam Newton did that for a little

00:16:23.300 bit.

00:16:23.660 I, I contemplated doing that, but I like football is a really weird sport where you just kind

00:16:28.100 of get lucky.

00:16:28.620 Like I could be blocking somebody and then the running back could miss me by like an

00:16:33.840 inch or he might kick me in the calf when he's going past me.

00:16:36.600 And it's just like, you just got to get lucky sometimes.

00:16:38.160 And I got really lucky this year where like, yeah, my shins were getting beat up, but like

00:16:41.980 nothing else.

00:16:42.680 And so I don't know if I want to be that guy that's out there with the double elbow pads,

00:16:46.960 double neat.

00:16:47.460 Like you just don't want to look like that.

00:16:48.860 And I just, I can't bring myself to wearing shin pads yet.

00:16:51.700 Yeah.

00:16:52.020 There's maybe an aesthetic thing about it.

00:16:53.960 Does it, um, are there, but there, Cam Newton was the guy that did it.

00:16:57.220 I think so.

00:16:58.080 I think that's what, cause I brought it up and like one of my equipment managers told

00:17:00.560 me that.

00:17:00.960 And I was like, if the only other person where shin guards was a quarterback, I just don't

00:17:04.820 know if I can do that to myself.

00:17:06.240 Cause it kind of puts you on a different level.

00:17:07.860 Yeah, I know.

00:17:08.340 I think I just got to tough it out.

00:17:09.740 You know, it's, it's for the, the, it's just for the sport, man.

00:17:12.480 It's got to tough it out.

00:17:13.740 Yeah.

00:17:14.020 I could, I could respect that, man.

00:17:15.300 I think sometimes, yeah, you want to wear, like I won't wear like a turtleneck, you know?

00:17:20.440 I'm not a big turtle.

00:17:21.300 I don't know if I've ever worn a turtleneck.

00:17:22.960 I think there are guys that pulled off really well.

00:17:24.820 That's just not my thing.

00:17:26.660 You know who wears one?

00:17:27.640 Mike Dicka wears a turtleneck a lot.

00:17:29.240 I see a lot.

00:17:30.300 And I think a lot of people that sell jewelry wear it.

00:17:33.460 Ooh, like a little fancy.

00:17:35.340 You might see one like on a cool night in Miami.

00:17:37.500 A lot of turtlenecks down there.

00:17:38.920 Yeah.

00:17:39.160 Maybe I can see that kind of.

00:17:40.660 That's suave.

00:17:41.340 Yeah.

00:17:41.680 I think it's kind of like also like Europeans or Middle Easterners wear it.

00:17:45.120 Now there's Cam.

00:17:45.820 Now that definitely looks like diapers on the front of his fucking.

00:17:48.560 Yes.

00:17:48.780 Those are those.

00:17:49.580 That's basically what like basketball players wear.

00:17:51.200 That's the type of shin guards.

00:17:52.780 So like those aren't bad.

00:17:53.840 Like I was picturing wearing like the actual soccer shin guards that are like hard plastic.

00:17:57.740 Yeah, the hard ones.

00:17:58.320 And who knows?

00:17:58.920 I might give it a shot this year.

00:18:00.240 Who knows?

00:18:00.840 If it doesn't affect how I run, which hopefully it doesn't.

00:18:02.960 But you want to be as light as you can.

00:18:04.560 Because I mean, the name of the game in the NFL these days is speed.

00:18:07.140 Yeah.

00:18:07.580 So whoever's fastest is, you know, who makes the most plays and who gets paid.

00:18:10.980 And it's also, I think, um, it could be become a mental thing.

00:18:15.720 Like sometimes you feel like if you have something on your body, then it's weighing you or it's

00:18:18.800 like, and if it starts to become a little bit of a hinge and it's not even worth it,

00:18:22.400 I bet.

00:18:22.800 No, that's a hundred percent true.

00:18:23.920 Cause like I had to get used, I play with the shoulder sling on because was it my second

00:18:28.220 year?

00:18:28.660 I dislocated my shoulder.

00:18:30.000 And so like to come back and play and not miss any time I had, like, I wore the shoulder

00:18:34.020 sling and now I'm just like, uh, superstitious about it.

00:18:37.180 And like, I still like my shoulders are a little messed up, but like, I don't need to

00:18:40.080 wear it, but I literally just do it because it's helps me like just not totally get out

00:18:45.700 of the socket sometimes.

00:18:46.700 And, but for that, that, that took a lot of getting used to just wearing something else

00:18:50.520 on my body.

00:18:50.940 Cause at first I was like, well, I can't lift my hand above my head.

00:18:52.960 And then after a while, you just get used to it.

00:18:54.800 And that's it.

00:18:55.280 That's the whole process of it.

00:18:56.380 Just getting used to it.

00:18:57.160 Cause you know, like, uh, the football, like the girdles that come with like the built-in

00:19:01.440 pads and like your thighs and your hips and stuff like that.

00:19:03.640 It's like spandex you'd wear.

00:19:05.000 Yeah.

00:19:05.160 I've seen them.

00:19:05.640 Yeah.

00:19:05.720 Like big panties.

00:19:06.640 Yeah.

00:19:07.000 Basically.

00:19:07.360 And like, they have these thick pads and I'm in, I wore them in high school and then

00:19:10.060 I didn't wear them again until I tried them on the NFL and it felt like I was wearing

00:19:13.480 like baggy pants and I hated it.

00:19:15.240 It was just way too much going on.

00:19:16.740 And so I just do like the little, like those high school white little pads you put into your football

00:19:21.000 pants.

00:19:21.640 Cause like it is, you just, you don't want to wear a lot cause you're just trying to be as fast

00:19:24.940 as possible.

00:19:25.460 You know, one thing that was interesting, even when your, when your sister was helping

00:19:29.220 me do yoga and I just bring that back because we, we would talk about you sometimes.

00:19:32.400 And, um, and she was always really interested in like the next, like staying on the pulse

00:19:39.820 of like, that is pretty cool.

00:19:42.860 That's awesome.

00:19:43.620 I know, dude, it's always weird.

00:19:44.620 You think like, would you ever have like one of those of yourself and then like somehow

00:19:48.040 you end up with one?

00:19:49.340 Oh dude.

00:19:49.840 Yeah.

00:19:49.960 I did a bobblehead thing like in 2018 or 2019 and I still have like 30 of them in a box

00:19:55.940 just in my, in my barn, just in storage.

00:19:58.000 And then I got a Nickelodeon one this year.

00:19:59.920 It's hilarious.

00:20:00.660 Really?

00:20:01.160 Head is so big.

00:20:02.540 Let's bring it up.

00:20:03.520 I don't know if you can find it, but yeah, I did.

00:20:05.660 It's hilarious.

00:20:06.520 I got to start getting, you know what I should start doing for guests that we have on?

00:20:09.180 I should start getting some bobbleheads.

00:20:10.780 That's awesome.

00:20:11.300 Have you seen a, you, you like the Preds, right?

00:20:13.260 Hockey team?

00:20:14.000 Um, yeah, I like the Preds.

00:20:15.020 They're not, they don't like themselves.

00:20:16.680 I don't think they're not that good.

00:20:17.820 Oh my God.

00:20:18.320 Well, so Phil Forsberg's like one of my best friends.

00:20:20.460 I love that dude.

00:20:21.360 And, uh, I love going, oh yeah, there it is.

00:20:23.720 Look at that big head.

00:20:24.860 Oh my God.

00:20:25.620 That's you, dude.

00:20:26.380 What were you going through?

00:20:28.200 When I first opened it, I was like, that boy's faded.

00:20:31.420 Theo, that boy right there is faded.

00:20:33.260 Yeah, dude.

00:20:33.940 Look at him.

00:20:34.720 Whoa, bro.

00:20:35.720 Yeah.

00:20:36.040 Hold on, dude.

00:20:37.060 That looks like.

00:20:37.900 Oh, you like that?

00:20:39.420 She looks hot.

00:20:40.140 That's all I'm saying, dude.

00:20:41.360 That's a nice, yeah.

00:20:42.440 That from the backside, man, that's aggressive.

00:20:44.740 Oh, I just got slime.

00:20:47.240 Thanks, Nick.

00:20:47.920 Really appreciate it.

00:20:48.840 Oh, that's slime.

00:20:49.560 Okay.

00:20:49.760 I didn't know what was going on.

00:20:50.540 Nickelodeon, man.

00:20:50.960 Oh, now I get it.

00:20:51.880 I thought that was like between two ferns with Zach Galifianakis.

00:20:54.820 Dude, that'd be awesome.

00:20:55.960 That's really what I thought it was.

00:20:57.140 I was like, what's going on here?

00:20:59.380 This looks like you, I feel like in like 15 years.

00:21:02.420 I know.

00:21:03.080 That's a faded old George right there.

00:21:05.180 Yeah.

00:21:05.540 That looks like George, like if you were in like Pink Floyd or like, like if you were

00:21:13.520 definitely like riding in a small van.

00:21:16.860 White van.

00:21:17.300 How many windows?

00:21:18.320 I mean, some of the windows had curtains because you were also living in it.

00:21:22.340 I think it has that kind of like, oh, we're following the Grateful Dead or we're following

00:21:26.980 a widespread panic.

00:21:28.920 Yeah.

00:21:29.060 How's it?

00:21:29.520 Yeah.

00:21:29.920 Kind of compare?

00:21:30.520 It's, it's good.

00:21:33.060 It's, I actually just got my fade redone.

00:21:35.480 So I was coming from a haircut.

00:21:36.860 Oh, you did?

00:21:37.520 I had to.

00:21:38.460 Who does your hair?

00:21:39.440 His name's Calvin.

00:21:40.460 He, he cuts a lot of the Titans players.

00:21:42.040 And so I met him through one of the guys and now he just cuts me and all my buddy's

00:21:45.840 hair.

00:21:46.280 Fantastic.

00:21:47.080 Is he?

00:21:47.460 Yeah.

00:21:47.620 North Nashville.

00:21:48.420 Oh, wow.

00:21:48.800 Yeah.

00:21:48.940 He really gets on there.

00:21:50.000 Oh yeah.

00:21:50.760 High bald fade.

00:21:51.660 Damn.

00:21:52.320 He's good at it.

00:21:53.060 Yeah.

00:21:53.200 I just got my haircut today too, actually.

00:21:54.740 Ooh, look at us.

00:21:55.640 That's crazy.

00:21:56.160 This girl, Whitney cuts mine here in Nashville.

00:21:58.940 Um, have you ever had anyone mess up your haircut?

00:22:01.580 Like really bad?

00:22:02.760 Oh dude.

00:22:03.380 One time my fricking friend's dad, first of all, never get your haircut in, um, Mississippi.

00:22:10.680 Okay.

00:22:11.560 Thank you.

00:22:11.980 Just don't do it.

00:22:12.780 I mean, yeah, sure.

00:22:14.220 I don't even if it's at the mall, the casino, it doesn't matter.

00:22:17.260 I got a haircut at a casino.

00:22:19.440 One time, bro, dude, I'll tell you what, this is crazy.

00:22:22.520 So one time, Chris Pratt, actually one time, this is, and I'm kind of name dropping, but

00:22:27.020 this is what he sent me a DM.

00:22:28.880 He asked me to be on a movie is right.

00:22:30.940 So I went through all these things and got like, got the, got the, he helped me get the

00:22:37.240 part in the movie.

00:22:38.220 And then I got this horrible haircut and it made, and we're just about to like start taping.

00:22:46.240 And I also didn't, uh, I didn't like the part was very small and it was going to take

00:22:51.540 like 12 weeks to do.

00:22:53.080 Oh, and I was like, man, this is just, it's a lot.

00:22:55.960 It's a lot.

00:22:56.600 And, but what capped it off was that day I'd gotten, I'd had a show that weekend somewhere

00:23:00.680 and I got my haircut in a casino in Mississippi and it was so fucking bad.

00:23:06.020 It pushed me over the edge.

00:23:07.140 I was like, I don't, yeah, I definitely want to be on camera.

00:23:09.480 I don't want to be around anyone.

00:23:10.880 I'm out.

00:23:11.500 Yeah.

00:23:11.840 And this lady just gotten out of like, she went through like this haircutting rehabilitation

00:23:15.240 program through prison or whatever, which I'm all about.

00:23:18.300 That's who cut your hair.

00:23:19.020 Yeah.

00:23:19.340 Good for you, man.

00:23:20.300 Yeah.

00:23:20.480 That's what I was thinking.

00:23:21.480 I was like, God wants me here.

00:23:23.120 This is what we're doing.

00:23:24.600 It was on.

00:23:25.780 Oh God.

00:23:27.000 I wanted to fucking bro.

00:23:28.700 I should have gone to prison on that, on that lady.

00:23:31.060 It was fucking bad, dude.

00:23:32.820 And if I ever see that fucking lady again somewhere, you want to go to Casino Mississippi with

00:23:36.660 that?

00:23:36.780 It was so bad, dude.

00:23:38.260 That's brutal.

00:23:38.920 I was like, I gamble, I gamble with my most valuable asset too.

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00:26:54.220 I had one, uh, so my hair got to a point where it was getting caught in my shoulder pads.

00:26:59.580 And so I just went to a barber and what I've realized now is that when you have long hair,

00:27:04.100 you need to go to a salon and like work with someone who knows how to cut long hair.

00:27:07.740 Yeah.

00:27:07.900 I just went to a barber and I swear to God, he gave me a bowl cut without putting a bowl on my head.

00:27:13.600 He let my hair down and he just cut a circle around my head.

00:27:16.460 And I looked at it and I was like, that's tough for me.

00:27:20.600 It's really tough.

00:27:21.340 And I had to go to a salon literally like an hour later and they had to like fix it for him,

00:27:24.400 but it was still a brutal, he just went scissors in a circle.

00:27:27.900 It hurts, huh?

00:27:28.880 Ah, it really, it was a struggle for me.

00:27:30.660 My wife looked at me, she was like, what is wrong with you?

00:27:32.300 I was like, a lot of things at this moment.

00:27:34.020 Actually, I got to leave.

00:27:35.220 Yeah.

00:27:35.460 I've been neutered.

00:27:36.500 Yeah, dude.

00:27:36.960 That's what it feels like.

00:27:37.920 Oh, dude.

00:27:38.500 People don't know once you've grown, like, like there's something about like why I could see

00:27:42.760 why Native Americans would go and take the scalp of a man.

00:27:45.600 Cause it was like the most powerful fucking thing you could do.

00:27:48.280 That's, it's very disrespectful.

00:27:49.520 Did you ever get a haircut?

00:27:50.760 Like, uh, like during COVID, like did anyone, like I had a guy, I had a traveling barber

00:27:55.000 who I met through a person, through a person like in Nashville, he showed up and I asked

00:28:01.680 him for a fade and he cut it.

00:28:04.680 And then he was on the back of my neck and he was talking to me and he was a football

00:28:09.140 fan.

00:28:09.500 So he was talking and you know, like when you know somebody messes something up and they

00:28:14.100 tried to hide it and like, it was like, and I was like, he stopped for like two seconds.

00:28:19.520 I was like, you good?

00:28:19.980 And he's like, yeah, yeah, no, nothing's wrong.

00:28:21.380 And I go in and I show my wife and he basically put a lightning bolt as my neckline.

00:28:27.040 It was absolutely brutal.

00:28:28.920 Why did he do it?

00:28:29.840 You complete, he was just not paying attention.

00:28:31.840 Oh yeah.

00:28:32.380 He was asking me a football question and he just got excited.

00:28:35.200 It was hilarious.

00:28:36.600 I looked, I was like, you know what, man?

00:28:37.980 Just thank you for the time and I'm going to call it a day.

00:28:42.420 Oh my goodness.

00:28:43.580 There's nothing worse than getting a bad haircut, man.

00:28:45.920 It's brutal.

00:28:46.920 It just ruins your whole day and maybe a week.

00:28:49.040 Oh yeah.

00:28:49.640 It can ruin even more.

00:28:50.440 At least you're married, bro.

00:28:52.240 Dude.

00:28:52.760 Thank you.

00:28:53.220 Yes.

00:28:53.420 It helps a lot.

00:28:54.460 God, you have, yeah.

00:28:55.360 You know, a lady still likes you when you fucking get home.

00:28:58.480 Yes.

00:28:58.960 Imagine you get a shitty haircut, then you go home and it's just you there.

00:29:02.940 Just staring in the mirror.

00:29:03.960 Like, oh my God, I can't leave the house.

00:29:06.640 You're trying on different hats and shit.

00:29:08.640 You're like, yeah.

00:29:09.720 It's like you're getting real weird.

00:29:10.600 You sound to become a beanie guy.

00:29:12.920 Hey, Theo, why are you wearing a beanie?

00:29:14.480 Don't worry about it.

00:29:15.300 It's my thing now.

00:29:16.920 Yeah.

00:29:17.300 You grow a beard that you can't even grow.

00:29:19.860 It's just, but no, one thing that I was interested in that was interesting about, and I keep going

00:29:25.000 back to your sister, but I keep distracting you.

00:29:26.680 Sorry.

00:29:26.720 It's okay.

00:29:27.580 One thing that was interesting was she's like, she helps train.

00:29:31.540 You guys do yoga and stuff.

00:29:32.600 She's always like, but she's like, yeah, we stay on the, just try to stay on the cutting

00:29:35.740 and she just gone to a conference.

00:29:37.160 I think about, I think it was some type of new yoga or something.

00:29:41.160 I can't remember what it's called, but yeah.

00:29:42.720 But it was just interesting.

00:29:43.660 She's like, yeah, our family's big into this.

00:29:45.600 Has your family always been like, cause I got to meet your father and your mother at

00:29:51.800 the golf, uh, at the mother-in-law.

00:29:54.920 Oh, that's mother-in-law.

00:29:56.060 Yeah.

00:29:56.260 That's my mom's mom.

00:29:56.780 No way.

00:29:57.260 Yeah.

00:29:58.140 Is your mother still alive?

00:29:59.220 Yeah, she is.

00:29:59.760 She just, she didn't go, uh, my dad.

00:30:01.540 Yeah, you're good.

00:30:02.120 Your dad's remarried.

00:30:03.380 No, no, no.

00:30:04.780 Oh, your wife's mother.

00:30:06.100 It's my wife's mom.

00:30:07.000 Yeah.

00:30:07.360 My wife's mom, she was in town for, she does, she works with, uh, the NFL hall of fame

00:30:12.380 health.

00:30:12.700 And so like, she works with, uh, like former NFL players who are retired, who need help

00:30:16.660 with medical stuff, which is, it's really cool stuff.

00:30:19.280 But, uh, yeah, I brought my, my sister, my dad and my mother-in-law cause my, my sister,

00:30:23.420 my dad, they have the podcast now.

00:30:24.800 And so yeah, what's it called?

00:30:26.300 Hidden pearls, right.

00:30:27.780 Hidden pearls pockets.

00:30:28.360 But they were, uh, we're there in, um, Scottsdale for, uh, an event up there and I just, I happened

00:30:33.460 to have a couple extra tickets.

00:30:34.320 So they got to go with me.

00:30:35.140 Yeah.

00:30:35.260 It was cool, man.

00:30:35.980 Because yeah, I'd always heard about y'all's dad and then, um, and then to get to see her

00:30:41.520 sister again was great.

00:30:42.720 But, uh, yeah.

00:30:44.000 Has y'all's family always been like, like super health conscious or like, what was that

00:30:50.840 kind of like?

00:30:51.580 My mom's been a vegetarian most of my life.

00:30:53.600 Oh, wow.

00:30:54.260 And you grew up in the Midwest.

00:30:55.560 Did grew up in the Midwest.

00:30:56.500 So yeah.

00:30:56.920 Oh my God, dude.

00:30:57.500 Were people just throwing like, like Molotov cocktails through your windows?

00:31:02.080 No, she was fine.

00:31:03.060 She would like, she eats fish once in a while.

00:31:04.560 So like not true vegetarian, but like now I would say, uh, I'd say like the last 10

00:31:09.600 years, my family's become like super health conscious.

00:31:12.520 Well, like my dad's 60, my parents are both, my dad's 64, my mom's 63.

00:31:17.160 Wow.

00:31:17.380 He looks great.

00:31:18.020 He does look great.

00:31:18.740 But, uh, my dad, like his side of the family has like health issues.

00:31:22.180 And so he's like, I'm not going to let that happen to me.

00:31:24.700 And so I'm going to be as healthy as I possibly can.

00:31:26.120 So my dad's basically vegan now for like the last five years, I'm going to fight it.

00:31:29.240 Bring him up.

00:31:29.700 What's his name is, uh, Bruce, Bruce, Bruce Kittle.

00:31:33.080 Let's bring him up in here.

00:31:34.280 I want to get a JPEG at his fellow right here.

00:31:37.940 Cause yeah, he look at him.

00:31:39.460 There he is.

00:31:40.240 Oh yeah.

00:31:40.480 Look at that guy.

00:31:40.960 And this had me, he's a little zinned out in this picture, but he's definitely a tough

00:31:44.220 man.

00:31:44.800 Yeah, he is.

00:31:46.360 Um, oh, that's you and him.

00:31:48.460 That's me and him.

00:31:49.160 Is that right down the street?

00:31:50.220 No, that was there.

00:31:51.200 Oh, that's crazy.

00:31:52.760 Um, so yeah.

00:31:54.460 So was he, oh, look at that hair photo of him in college.

00:31:58.060 Where is it?

00:31:58.760 Let me see.

00:31:59.400 Yeah.

00:31:59.880 Oh, wow.

00:32:00.980 I know.

00:32:01.420 Right.

00:32:01.620 So he took a, he went to the worst barber.

00:32:03.920 Oh, dude.

00:32:04.920 He tried to keep his hair for right.

00:32:06.060 He's been, he's been bald since probably like 40, 45.

00:32:08.880 He just shaves it off.

00:32:10.060 So were you worried about that?

00:32:11.760 Oh, I know that when I cut the hair, I don't know if it's going to come back very well.

00:32:14.820 Oh, it is what it is.

00:32:16.360 So I'm just, my wife likes it.

00:32:17.780 So I'm going to keep it as long as she likes it.

00:32:19.140 And then I'll cut it off when I cut it off.

00:32:20.520 And it is what it is.

00:32:21.560 Save it.

00:32:22.040 Probably.

00:32:23.200 We thought about cutting off some of like, whenever I get my hair cut, saving it and selling a little

00:32:27.140 20 sacks of it at the, uh, you can probably just walk down Broadway.

00:32:30.380 People would buy it.

00:32:30.980 Fuck.

00:32:31.340 Well, we want to sell it after comedy shows.

00:32:33.020 We want to have a special thing where there's like a limited edition, 40 of them.

00:32:36.080 And they're just little 20 bags and like little drug baggies.

00:32:39.420 But not that I know.

00:32:40.420 That's like, that's like the dude selling the sand from where Tom Brady did his retirement

00:32:43.820 speech from someone sold it for $400.

00:32:46.380 I was like, are you like, who's going to buy that?

00:32:49.020 Why would you do that?

00:32:50.820 So I'm like a sand monkey out there.

00:32:53.580 Um, were you guys really tough?

00:32:55.660 Cause you, uh, your, your whole family's very fit.

00:32:58.420 Yes.

00:32:59.080 Was that a big thing growing up?

00:33:00.600 Was there like, like, do you have to like do chin ups to get seconds and stuff?

00:33:04.080 Oh, not at all.

00:33:04.980 No, my, uh, my mom's a two sport hall of fame athlete in Iowa high school.

00:33:08.640 Oh, wow.

00:33:09.280 Softball and basketball.

00:33:10.700 Um, my dad was a football player and a wrestler.

00:33:13.240 And so we just kind of been athletes.

00:33:15.600 Emma was a great athlete.

00:33:16.680 She was like, I don't know, like she's volleyball, right?

00:33:19.160 Uh, she played volleyball in college.

00:33:20.460 She did basketball and volleyball in high school.

00:33:22.180 I think she was like first team all state and all her stuff.

00:33:24.160 So she's a freak athlete too.

00:33:25.860 Uh, so we've always just been athletic, but no, like it wasn't a, my dad was always big

00:33:29.480 on like, there are dads out there who are like very strict on their kids about stuff.

00:33:33.100 So my dad just gave me like a template, like, Hey, these are things that are going to lead

00:33:36.580 to your success.

00:33:37.200 You can choose to do them or not.

00:33:38.460 I'm going to help you like make the right decision.

00:33:40.800 Like, I'm not going to force you to do it.

00:33:42.120 It's on you.

00:33:42.560 But like, what are your dreams?

00:33:43.940 I want to play in the NFL.

00:33:45.060 This is going to help you get to there.

00:33:46.500 Like just doing these things a little bit better.

00:33:48.100 But his biggest thing was like, Hey, work hard, try to get better and have fun.

00:33:51.920 Cause if you have fun, it's a lot easier.

00:33:53.620 That's what I've been my mindset.

00:33:55.460 Interesting.

00:33:56.400 Yeah.

00:33:56.700 I just kind of wonder, Hey, yeah.

00:33:58.020 Oh, I just wondered like, yeah.

00:33:59.260 Was it like real intense or was it not really?

00:34:01.440 It was just you guys having a good time.

00:34:02.740 Yeah.

00:34:02.920 It was a great time.

00:34:03.960 Uh, I mean, yeah.

00:34:04.960 I mean, there wasn't too much strictness with it.

00:34:06.640 Like my parents are just, they're always, I mean, I was a pretty good kid.

00:34:10.240 I didn't really do a lot.

00:34:11.140 Like I was very nice.

00:34:12.680 I played football, basketball, and then I came home and I played Halo three.

00:34:15.840 That's about all I did.

00:34:16.980 Oh, dang.

00:34:17.560 It's pretty easy.

00:34:18.420 I was low key.

00:34:19.380 Were you?

00:34:19.920 Yes.

00:34:20.240 Very.

00:34:20.680 My sister wasn't, but you know, you can have her on the podcast to discuss that.

00:34:24.200 Yeah.

00:34:24.400 Maybe sometime.

00:34:25.260 That'd be interesting.

00:34:27.060 Um, so what else?

00:34:29.320 Oh, I was thinking about this dude.

00:34:30.740 Um, oh no, there was one more question I wanted to ask.

00:34:34.060 Oh, but y'all's family seems really close.

00:34:36.200 Very.

00:34:37.040 Yeah.

00:34:37.240 We just always have been.

00:34:38.320 It's just, uh, it's yeah.

00:34:39.280 Mom, dad, me and my sister.

00:34:40.980 So it's like, we moved around a bunch.

00:34:43.560 Um, I went to like, I went to like 15 different schools, school districts, basically growing

00:34:49.060 up.

00:34:49.600 Uh, I started in Wisconsin.

00:34:50.920 That's where I was born.

00:34:51.840 Moved back to Iowa.

00:34:52.580 Cause both my parents, their families are from there.

00:34:54.480 I don't know.

00:34:54.860 My, my mom has nine sisters.

00:34:56.320 Oh, so she's one of 10 girls.

00:34:58.400 Wow.

00:34:58.800 And so I would have loved to live next door, dude.

00:35:02.020 My God, dude.

00:35:04.040 That's funny.

00:35:04.880 Wow.

00:35:05.400 Yes.

00:35:05.560 They lived in like small town, Iowa.

00:35:07.240 Um, was it Mount union, Iowa is where it's like Mount pleasant.

00:35:11.180 It's an hour South Iowa city where the university of Iowa is.

00:35:14.200 Okay.

00:35:14.700 So it's just down Southeast Iowa.

00:35:16.280 So like we moved back to Iowa.

00:35:17.580 Then we just kind of moved around a lot with my dad.

00:35:19.460 He just wanted to be closer to his job.

00:35:20.780 We had land.

00:35:21.660 Didn't like the house we lived in, just moved around a bunch.

00:35:24.340 Interesting.

00:35:25.020 Yeah.

00:35:25.340 My mom went to college in Iowa.

00:35:26.660 I think at like co-land college or something.

00:35:28.320 Co-college.

00:35:28.920 Yeah.

00:35:29.040 Co-college.

00:35:29.960 Yeah.

00:35:30.160 I've had friends that go to co-college.

00:35:31.680 Yeah.

00:35:31.880 That's cool, man.

00:35:32.420 It's an interesting town.

00:35:33.700 Yeah.

00:35:34.020 It's interesting.

00:35:34.900 Oh, I like Dubuque maybe a little bit more.

00:35:36.880 That's where my wife's from.

00:35:37.600 Really?

00:35:37.980 Yeah.

00:35:38.320 Yeah.

00:35:38.500 On the border.

00:35:39.020 I like Dubuque.

00:35:39.840 It's, they got some really neat hotels and stuff right there along the river.

00:35:42.380 Oh yeah.

00:35:42.940 What is that called?

00:35:44.000 It starts with, uh, did you stay in the room where, uh, Al Capone, Al Capone was in it,

00:35:47.600 right?

00:35:47.920 Yeah.

00:35:48.240 That's right.

00:35:48.780 I was in that room too.

00:35:49.780 Were you?

00:35:50.180 The Juliet or something like that.

00:35:51.620 Yeah.

00:35:51.820 Bring up that hotel.

00:35:52.820 It's Dubuque.

00:35:53.720 Dubuque.

00:35:54.160 I would like to Julius or Juliet, something like that.

00:35:56.580 Yeah.

00:35:56.700 That's a, it's a cool hotel.

00:35:58.080 I have one of my buddies got married there.

00:35:59.520 Oh, wow.

00:36:00.040 Yeah.

00:36:00.380 It's beautiful.

00:36:01.060 Yeah.

00:36:01.220 Mark Twain, I think would write a lot about that area and stuff.

00:36:03.720 It was really.

00:36:04.580 Well, it's right on the, Dubuque's around the corner.

00:36:06.160 So like you cross a bridge into Illinois or Wisconsin.

00:36:08.840 And so it's kind of a cool area.

00:36:10.680 I didn't know that.

00:36:11.580 Yeah.

00:36:11.700 There's just big bridges that go across.

00:36:13.440 Hotel Julian, maybe?

00:36:14.540 Julian.

00:36:14.900 Yeah.

00:36:15.000 That's it.

00:36:15.560 That's it.

00:36:15.960 I was close.

00:36:16.360 I got the jewel, right?

00:36:17.380 And it's haunted.

00:36:18.160 It says, read it, read it about Al Capone.

00:36:20.220 He's booking us a damn room, dude.

00:36:21.880 Come on, man.

00:36:22.340 We're just friends.

00:36:23.600 Yeah.

00:36:23.760 No, like it, there was a room that he stayed in that he put like, um, I don't know if it

00:36:28.380 was a safe or like a closet.

00:36:29.720 It was a hidden door that you'd hide in if like cops ever came to the hotel.

00:36:33.940 And so they just leave it permanently open now.

00:36:37.280 Yeah.

00:36:37.660 I was right.

00:36:38.200 There we go.

00:36:38.580 There you go.

00:36:39.340 Hotel Julian Dubuque became known as one of the finest hotels in the Midwest and hosted many

00:36:43.740 grand banquets and famous guests.

00:36:45.580 But all the personages said to have stayed at the hotel.

00:36:49.760 Local lore alleges that when things got hot in Chicago, Capone would travel with his honor

00:36:54.980 to Dubuque and hide out at Hotel Julian.

00:36:58.240 Yeah.

00:36:58.340 There's like a hidden room and there's a hidden room in that hotel room and they leave it open.

00:37:01.880 Like I said, no, but it used to like blend in.

00:37:03.800 Oh, wow.

00:37:04.480 It was really cool stuff.

00:37:05.560 That's cool.

00:37:06.200 Yeah.

00:37:06.400 It's I, yeah.

00:37:07.080 I really liked Dubuque though.

00:37:08.120 I just, even just walking around the little, the, the downtown, I really enjoyed it.

00:37:14.760 Dude, you have like this, do you start to feel like you have like this almost like,

00:37:21.020 like wrestling type of vibe about you, right?

00:37:24.520 And people have said that you're a wrestling fan.

00:37:26.280 I am.

00:37:26.580 Do you start to, do you like, do you feel like more of a character when you're playing

00:37:33.580 football sometimes these days?

00:37:35.180 Um, maybe I think football is a place where like I authentically get a, I mean, I think

00:37:41.500 I'm authentically myself all the time, but the great thing about football is it's one

00:37:44.440 of the only professions where you get to beat the shit out of someone, not get arrested

00:37:46.980 for it.

00:37:47.520 Yeah.

00:37:48.020 There's not very many of those sports.

00:37:49.180 Right.

00:37:49.960 And so that's really fun for me.

00:37:51.500 And like, except Memphis, maybe I think you can do it these days, but yeah, I don't think

00:37:55.500 it's like as sanctioned.

00:37:56.820 Yeah, probably not.

00:37:57.920 You know, that's frowned upon.

00:37:58.900 Yeah.

00:37:59.780 Frowned upon, but like in the NFL.

00:38:01.260 So like, I just get to go out there and I get to hit people.

00:38:03.600 I get to have fun.

00:38:04.440 I mean, I'm playing a kid's game, dude, and getting paid a lot of money to do it.

00:38:07.240 So like, I'm going to work my tail off, but I'm going to enjoy it every second that I'm

00:38:10.940 out there.

00:38:11.220 Cause you only get so many reps.

00:38:12.400 There's only so much tread on the tire and you got Tom Brady who can play for 20 years,

00:38:16.100 maybe 21.

00:38:17.200 And then like, you know, but the average, you know, lifespan is like three years.

00:38:20.180 So I'm going into year seven.

00:38:21.560 I'm doing pretty well for myself.

00:38:22.620 So it's like, Hey, I'm going to play as long as I can.

00:38:25.020 I'm gonna play at a high level as long as I can, but I'm going to have a great time every

00:38:27.640 time I'm out there.

00:38:28.320 And do you feel like it's a, uh, it's easier for guys now?

00:38:32.040 Is there more of a, like the aspect of it now where, let me think of exactly what I'm

00:38:39.160 trying to say.

00:38:39.600 So it seems like you want to stay in it longer now, right?

00:38:45.080 Everybody's always wanted to stay in it longer, but now it's obviously a, it's a, it's a bigger

00:38:48.780 business now than it was 20 years ago.

00:38:50.560 Oh yeah.

00:38:50.780 I mean, there's significantly more money in it.

00:38:52.260 I mean, you just saw like two quarterbacks just got paid over a hundred million dollars

00:38:55.280 with like $70 million.

00:38:56.780 The one guy got guaranteed like $83 million.

00:38:59.000 That's more than my entire contract.

00:39:00.840 Wow.

00:39:01.400 That's wild.

00:39:02.540 That's why it was Daniel Jones, right?

00:39:04.100 Yeah.

00:39:04.400 Good for him.

00:39:05.260 Happy for him.

00:39:05.720 I love it when guys in the NFL get paid because it's really hard to get paid.

00:39:09.440 Wow.

00:39:09.840 And so once you're like, I love everybody getting paid.

00:39:11.480 I do not care who they is.

00:39:12.500 If I think they're a good player, if I think they're a bad player.

00:39:14.940 Awesome.

00:39:15.360 You got paid good.

00:39:16.320 You're set for life.

00:39:17.220 Like just don't squander it, please.

00:39:19.040 What do you mean when you say it's hard for guys to get paid?

00:39:21.500 Well, like you have to, the NFL is full of like every NFL player college is you have

00:39:25.900 high school, which is like, you have hundreds of thousands of kids playing high school.

00:39:28.380 Right.

00:39:28.540 And you just think about like the number you have millions of kids playing high school

00:39:31.340 ball.

00:39:31.680 You have hundreds of thousands of people playing college football.

00:39:34.760 There's 1500 NFL players.

00:39:36.680 Like just like the percentage is just so small.

00:39:38.960 And then when you get there, like every team has all Americans in college, Heisman trophy

00:39:43.220 winners and just like, you have to figure out what you do better than everybody else

00:39:47.640 and how to do like, how to do that for as long as you can.

00:39:50.100 And that's kind of what the NFL is like surviving NFL is really hard.

00:39:52.660 Like there's fantastic players and athletes out there that should be in the field and

00:39:56.240 aren't right.

00:39:57.060 Like that happens all the time.

00:39:58.180 It's like a lot of guys don't take advantage of that opportunity.

00:39:59.940 So it's hard to get paid.

00:40:01.120 You have to have it right.

00:40:02.000 You have to take advantage of that opportunity.

00:40:03.160 What's in front of you.

00:40:04.240 Are there any players that come to mind when you're like, man, that player, it's just,

00:40:07.260 it didn't pan out or they got, or there was a injury that happened or.

00:40:10.820 Oh, I mean like, uh, one of my, I don't, let's see.

00:40:13.380 One of my favorite football players of all time was Bob Sanders.

00:40:15.600 He's a safety for the Indianapolis Colts.

00:40:17.600 He played for Iowa.

00:40:18.660 He won defensive MVP one year, but like, he just had an assortment of injuries and

00:40:23.440 he would have been in my, he was a first bout hall of famer.

00:40:25.940 And then he just had all these injuries that he couldn't stay healthy.

00:40:28.900 And then he played in the pros.

00:40:29.820 Oh yeah.

00:40:30.000 He was with the NFL MVP for defense, like amazing football player as a safety, which

00:40:34.760 is really hard to do these days.

00:40:36.120 And he was incredible.

00:40:37.380 And, uh, yeah, he had like a back injury, he had leg injury, shoulder injuries.

00:40:40.780 Cause he hit people so hard that made me be hurt.

00:40:42.520 And it's just like, instead of being a first bout hall of famer, like he'll always be

00:40:45.300 remembered as a really good football player, but like injury kind of took that away.

00:40:48.360 From him.

00:40:48.660 And so he could have gotten paid a lot more money too.

00:40:50.340 Probably that's what's hard.

00:40:51.680 It's like, you have to stay healthy.

00:40:52.780 You have to be in the right situation.

00:40:54.000 You have to make a lot of plays and you have to get into those.

00:40:56.600 Like when are the, what are the years you kind of get paid on?

00:40:58.600 What are some of those levels?

00:40:59.760 It's like, uh, after the most of the time is like, I got paid after year three.

00:41:03.520 Okay.

00:41:03.880 I was on a four year rookie deal.

00:41:05.300 Most of the extensions happen after three years.

00:41:08.640 Um, or you can, after your four year free agent is what you're seeing now.

00:41:12.220 Like that's where the real money is.

00:41:13.380 Cause like everyone's bidding on you and that's where the good stuff is.

00:41:16.460 Um, but yeah, most guys get paid after three.

00:41:18.920 If you're a first round draft pick, like teams have a fifth year right to you.

00:41:22.340 And so those first round draft picks might not get paid till after year four.

00:41:26.480 Um, but they already got a, you know, first round signing bonus.

00:41:28.760 So like they're doing well for themselves.

00:41:30.180 Do you think it like, as a player gets into that year where it's like, okay, the next

00:41:34.940 year they're going to get paid, is it common where a guys will kind of, and maybe this is

00:41:39.360 an overall question I was trying to ask earlier, where you'll, do you feel like, Oh, as overall

00:41:44.760 as the league that the players, everybody's almost like, all right, let's don't go too

00:41:48.980 crazy here today so that we could all play again next year.

00:41:51.600 There is a, I would say a majority of the NFL, like a high majority of the NFL is not

00:41:59.020 trying to hurt other players.

00:42:00.620 I think you have a couple of crazy guys that don't care if they do.

00:42:03.320 Like, I don't think their intention is I'm trying to blow your knee out.

00:42:06.100 I don't think that's a thing really anymore, but I definitely like there, there are some

00:42:10.120 guys who are more conscious about it than other guys.

00:42:11.800 And like, there's hits that you can't avoid and it is what it is.

00:42:14.560 But, um, yeah, I think I was like, I've had a time I was, my third year is like week

00:42:19.760 15 and I've been healthy the entire year and I'm literally, I'm, there's a pile right

00:42:25.180 behind me and a guy and like, my legs are pinned.

00:42:27.700 And if a guy wanted to, he could have like literally just thrown me backwards.

00:42:30.600 It's going to be a really awkward fall for me.

00:42:32.240 It said, like he grabbed me and pulled me out of the way.

00:42:34.540 And he's like, dog, you're worth too much to do that.

00:42:36.480 And I was like, I really appreciate you.

00:42:37.900 Thank you so much.

00:42:39.180 It's very nice of you.

00:42:40.420 You're amazing.

00:42:41.500 And so like, that happened to me and I was like, you know, I like, that's kind of how I

00:42:44.060 am too.

00:42:44.260 Like I never want to hurt anybody.

00:42:45.160 Like I cut block, you know, I have to, like, how do you expect?

00:42:47.960 Yeah.

00:42:48.140 Oh, I'll do it at the fucking mall, dude.

00:42:50.400 You just dive at a dude's ankles, put your head through his kneecap.

00:42:54.300 You do it.

00:42:54.640 Like, and there's like, there that's football, right?

00:42:56.760 Like, and people want to outlaw certain things.

00:42:58.420 Like I like the, try not to hit them in the head.

00:43:00.540 Like, I appreciate that.

00:43:01.740 Like, I don't want to get in the head a lot.

00:43:03.180 It sucks.

00:43:04.260 Um, concussions aren't fun, but, um, yeah, just getting ahead and hitting the head, but

00:43:08.740 in general, like just kind of sucks.

00:43:09.880 So like guys are conscious about that.

00:43:11.020 I like the protection of the house, but like there's certain jobs, like there's certain jobs

00:43:14.640 like, Hey, I'm going to cut block you and I'm going to hit in the knees.

00:43:17.100 And, you know, I, I don't like try to hurt anybody through it, but like, just, it's

00:43:20.240 a part of the game.

00:43:21.120 Yeah.

00:43:21.840 So it's kind of weird, but like I said, it's violence that's, um, appreciated by everybody.

00:43:26.300 Yeah.

00:43:26.620 I think that's true.

00:43:27.360 So you have to, does it almost start to feel like wrestling then at some point late in the

00:43:31.880 league?

00:43:32.300 Like, or like to an extent, like there's, there's a lot, like there's, yeah, I would say to an

00:43:37.100 extent, like I would say there's a handful of us out there who are treating it like wrestling

00:43:40.480 to, and like, you know, having fun out there like that.

00:43:42.720 But, uh, yeah, I mean, everyone's just, everyone's out there.

00:43:45.980 Everyone wants to like, everyone's goal is to win a super, I mean, I hope everyone's

00:43:48.800 goal is to win a super bowl.

00:43:49.600 Like, that's what my goal is.

00:43:50.600 And then whatever comes with that, but like, I'm not going to go out of my way to like,

00:43:53.560 you know, inflict too much pain on somebody, but enough.

00:43:56.620 Right.

00:43:57.520 Right.

00:43:57.880 Yeah.

00:43:58.040 Cause I think, yeah, I wonder if it used to be different, you know, I think back in the

00:44:01.940 day they cared less about each other, but there's a lot more going on back then.

00:44:06.620 Like a lot of, do you, did you ever see the clip of, it was on Instagram, but it was like

00:44:10.020 the 1980, maybe like 1990 highlight for like MB or CBS month, like a Sunday football or something

00:44:18.100 like that.

00:44:18.620 And like the whole highlight video is just like guys getting their knees taken out guys

00:44:22.480 getting thrown onto their heads, like just getting smoked.

00:44:25.080 And like every, every highlight in that, like cut up is illegal in today's game, which is

00:44:30.020 crazy.

00:44:30.400 But guys used to get messed up back in the day, but then you have to take in like, are the

00:44:34.900 guys that played in the, if you played in the NFL, you're a fan, like good for you.

00:44:38.580 You were good at the, like you played at a high level, you played with the best, but like

00:44:42.800 the game in the eighties and even the nineties is way different than it is today.

00:44:45.800 Like just the athletes too.

00:44:46.900 Like you got guys out there running four, two forties, like left and right in the eighties.

00:44:50.660 I, you might've had one guy in the whole NFL that could do that.

00:44:53.160 But now it's like, every team has three guys.

00:44:55.280 It's just crazy how the game's evolved.

00:44:56.740 And now like, look at like, you guys see guys like miles Garrett, that dude, six, five,

00:45:00.580 280 pounds.

00:45:01.680 And he's just muscle with 5% body fat.

00:45:03.780 It's just like, he didn't exist.

00:45:05.760 They didn't exist.

00:45:06.720 Right.

00:45:07.120 He didn't, he didn't exist 20 years ago.

00:45:08.740 That's crazy.

00:45:09.460 They didn't even exist.

00:45:10.280 Yeah.

00:45:10.400 Like he just didn't, like, that wasn't a thing or like you might've had one in the entire

00:45:13.960 NFL, but like now the, like guys that look like that are everywhere.

00:45:18.200 I have like five guys in my locker room that if they wanted to, if they punched me in the

00:45:21.680 face, I could die.

00:45:23.020 It's wild.

00:45:24.260 I got, I'm just like, oh my, like his fist is the size of my entire face and he could kill

00:45:28.380 me with one punch.

00:45:29.260 It's kind of weird to go to work with people like that.

00:45:31.100 Yeah, I bet.

00:45:32.200 It's weird.

00:45:32.820 Oh, I would keep a little treat bag on me.

00:45:34.560 Like they do with like with the raisin, uh, you know, somebody that's raising like Skittles

00:45:38.380 or just something.

00:45:39.400 You want a Kit Kat bar?

00:45:40.300 Oh, dude, no.

00:45:41.520 I'd give them probably a decent meat or something.

00:45:43.440 I'd give them a damn Wagyu at that level.

00:45:45.060 You got to keep them pleased.

00:45:46.160 Yeah.

00:45:46.320 Hey, what do you want?

00:45:46.960 A bottle of tequila?

00:45:48.020 A wine?

00:45:48.820 What do you want?

00:45:49.440 You want Caymus?

00:45:50.080 Yeah, sure, dude.

00:45:50.680 Hey, Ron, calm down on this next play a little bit.

00:45:52.660 Hey, dude.

00:45:53.300 Just satiate them.

00:45:54.180 Thank you.

00:45:54.640 Yeah.

00:45:54.800 Um, that's funny.

00:45:57.820 You were talking about having a, I read something somewhere you were, you were thinking that

00:46:01.540 they should have an extra bye week, right?

00:46:03.080 Oh, I'd love to talk about this, Theo.

00:46:04.980 Yeah.

00:46:05.260 So we, we, the NFL, it starts in, let's see, I leave for training camp July 24th.

00:46:10.740 Okay.

00:46:11.160 And what is it now?

00:46:12.200 January, February, March.

00:46:14.240 It's like March, we're in March sometimes.

00:46:16.600 Okay, we're in March.

00:46:17.220 But so you report in July 24th and my season technically ended on January 29th.

00:46:22.800 That's a long season, right?

00:46:25.560 Okay.

00:46:25.900 So you have five months off.

00:46:27.520 Ish.

00:46:27.800 But like we have spring football that starts April 15th and that's two months.

00:46:31.240 Oh, dang.

00:46:31.880 What do you have to do there?

00:46:32.860 Uh, it's not like, it's not as much contact, but you're just like,

00:46:35.240 just the first like two weeks is just working out, like getting you into shape and you have

00:46:39.420 to be there.

00:46:40.300 Uh, physically you can zoom.

00:46:41.920 No.

00:46:42.300 So, uh, it's, it's not mandatory.

00:46:45.620 One of those things, like they want you there.

00:46:48.120 Um, some guys have workout bonuses in their contracts so they can only miss so many days,

00:46:51.720 but like their coaches want you to be there.

00:46:53.980 If you're a vet, like there's going to be like Trent Williams probably won't show up,

00:46:57.240 you know, for a couple of weeks.

00:46:58.020 Cause like he doesn't really need to get better at football.

00:47:00.660 Not going to lie.

00:47:01.280 Like he's probably the best football player in the NFL.

00:47:03.360 Okay.

00:47:03.720 It's our office of lineman, our left tackle, but like there's certain guys that don't

00:47:06.800 do OTAs.

00:47:08.060 Um, but it's really beneficial for young guys.

00:47:10.840 Cause you just learn the playbook.

00:47:12.160 You go through the meeting.

00:47:12.900 It's kind of like, uh, if you haven't really been in NFL too much, it's kind of like a,

00:47:16.580 just, it's a, it's a bootcamp for the season.

00:47:19.240 Yeah.

00:47:19.560 Just kind of gets you ready for it.

00:47:20.620 And like, there's a, there's one week that's mandatory at the end of it that everybody

00:47:23.580 has to go to, or you can find, but it's not mandatory.

00:47:26.380 I always go to like the, um, I usually show up like May 1st.

00:47:29.880 I'm like two weeks late.

00:47:30.680 Usually just because my, like I didn't get yesterday was my first day in Nashville.

00:47:35.500 Wow.

00:47:35.900 Really?

00:47:36.100 And it's like, yeah, the first week of March.

00:47:37.780 And so like the entire month of February, I was doing stuff, whether it was pro bowl,

00:47:41.460 I was at the super bowl doing some like gigs, um, working with some of my marketing partners.

00:47:46.680 And then after that, I did like a 10 day vacation with my wife.

00:47:49.480 Cause I was like, I haven't gone on vacation in seven months.

00:47:51.660 So I'd like to go see a beach.

00:47:53.460 Yeah.

00:47:53.900 Sounds really nice right now.

00:47:55.060 So I went, I, so I did Maui last year.

00:47:58.360 Hawaii is awesome.

00:47:59.740 Beautiful.

00:48:00.240 So great.

00:48:00.860 It is beautiful.

00:48:01.400 I wish it wasn't as expensive as it is, but like, I get it, but like, I don't know.

00:48:05.920 Like there's a beautiful place in the world that I haven't been, but that's one of my favorite

00:48:09.140 places.

00:48:09.440 Like you're in the ocean and there's just massive islands that look like they could move at any

00:48:13.220 second and wreck havoc.

00:48:15.160 Like, that's how I see.

00:48:15.880 I'm like, wow, that's some cool stuff, but I wasn't, I wasn't living like damn breath

00:48:19.520 of the wild.

00:48:20.200 You're living like Zelda style, dude.

00:48:21.920 That's what it feels like, dude.

00:48:23.240 Yeah.

00:48:23.500 You're thinking like that.

00:48:24.540 That's how I view it.

00:48:25.900 I'm like, that, is that like a giant Pokemon?

00:48:27.860 Is that going to stand up and come over here?

00:48:29.440 Dude?

00:48:29.600 Like that stuff freaks.

00:48:30.560 Like, that's what I think about when I'm out there.

00:48:31.960 I'm like, wow, I'm just chilling right now.

00:48:34.280 I know.

00:48:34.660 Right.

00:48:35.900 I'm a 13 year old kid, Theo.

00:48:37.560 Yeah.

00:48:37.880 It seems like that.

00:48:38.860 It seems like you're just kind of like living in these crazy adult, like dream worlds of a child,

00:48:42.960 but that you're actually getting to navigate through them.

00:48:45.960 That's wild.

00:48:47.480 So, but, so what about that extra bi-week?

00:48:49.200 So you.

00:48:49.680 Oh yeah.

00:48:49.900 Sorry.

00:48:50.220 Yeah.

00:48:50.340 Bi-week.

00:48:50.880 No, it's okay.

00:48:51.540 I was saying this.

00:48:51.820 Like the season, like January, let's say July 24th.

00:48:54.500 Right.

00:48:54.820 And like you're like fully practicing, let's just say July, like the first couple of days

00:48:58.900 are pretty easy, but like by August 1st, you're going full speed.

00:49:03.160 You'd go from August 1st until if you're in the playoffs or like a Superbowl, like it's

00:49:08.720 mid-February.

00:49:09.560 So like your body's just rolling and getting beat up.

00:49:12.440 And so, and then last, well, two years ago, they added a 17th, a 17th game.

00:49:16.780 Oh yeah.

00:49:16.900 Who did that?

00:49:17.560 The money people?

00:49:18.660 You know what?

00:49:19.520 I voted no on it, but it is what it is.

00:49:21.940 It just, it was.

00:49:22.460 Did you guys' vote count?

00:49:23.460 Uh, well, so there was like, it was a new CBA, uh, the bargaining agreement and they

00:49:30.700 put in how I understand it.

00:49:33.040 And how it was explained to me is like, they kind of just put the 17th game out there.

00:49:36.040 And as players are bored or like the player voted reps, we're like, no, we're not going

00:49:41.080 to do that.

00:49:41.660 And then when they finally gave us an offer, it was kind of like, you're going to accept

00:49:44.960 this or else.

00:49:46.440 And it somehow passed the voting process and then went to the players and it wasn't, um,

00:49:51.460 I don't know how well it was explained.

00:49:53.840 Cause it was in the middle of COVID too.

00:49:55.160 So it was really hard to get ahold of people.

00:49:56.320 Like it was weird.

00:49:57.160 And I, that was like zoom, zoom was just kind of getting along too.

00:50:00.580 So like, it was difficult to, you know, get a lot of people on a phone call.

00:50:04.020 I mean, think about it.

00:50:04.760 There's 1500 guys in the league.

00:50:05.920 They were trying to do like league wide meetings.

00:50:08.620 Can you imagine 1500 people on a phone call?

00:50:10.620 Zoom call?

00:50:11.280 Yeah.

00:50:11.540 Like it, it, it was crazy.

00:50:13.240 And so like, it was difficult to get all the information out there.

00:50:15.740 So we voted and I, however many people voted, like there's a possible of like 1500

00:50:20.440 votes, only like 800 people voted out of the 1500 or something like that.

00:50:25.120 And the thing it passed.

00:50:26.820 And so the 17th game was included now.

00:50:29.380 And so they added a 17th game.

00:50:31.120 And so this is all my theory is if you're going to add a game, so the week, the season's

00:50:35.620 18 weeks long because there's one bi-week for every team, right?

00:50:38.380 If you just add another bi-week and you give everybody two, it'll be a 19 week season.

00:50:42.880 There's more, there's more weeks of football, more money to be made and your best players

00:50:47.580 are staying healthy.

00:50:48.140 So like, why not just do it?

00:50:49.660 It makes simple sense to me because, and you can just, I don't think any player right

00:50:54.020 now, if the NFL announced, like we're going to give everybody a second bi-week, I don't

00:50:57.740 think anybody would ever complain about that.

00:50:59.700 And like, okay, that makes our season one week longer.

00:51:01.760 Now we're getting done the third week of February.

00:51:03.840 Okay.

00:51:04.160 Like maybe take out a week of OTAs and just give us a week on the back end, you know,

00:51:08.140 let guys, you know, go on vacation or give another guy's week to train.

00:51:10.660 It's like, once you're in the NFL and it's your job, like everybody wants to play football.

00:51:14.560 It doesn't really take me a lot to get motivated to play football.

00:51:17.040 I love what I do.

00:51:18.000 I don't think everybody else does.

00:51:18.920 So it's like, and there's like young guys, you have to keep them like in line kind of

00:51:23.080 cause they don't understand it yet.

00:51:24.280 Like OTAs and stuff like that.

00:51:25.620 But if you get the, there's NFL guys are wanting to show up and they're going to play at a high

00:51:29.480 level because they want to get paid.

00:51:30.920 They love playing on the football field.

00:51:32.080 You feel like a gladiator when you stand in the new Raider stadium and it's straight

00:51:35.480 up and there's whatever, 70,000 people looking down on me.

00:51:39.060 Oh dude, it's one of the coolest feelings ever.

00:51:40.900 Like you literally look up, kill somebody at halftime.

00:51:43.060 You feel like it, dude.

00:51:44.520 It's really fun.

00:51:45.760 So my whole thing is just like at a bye week, I don't think anyone's going to get upset

00:51:49.420 about it.

00:51:49.940 And your best player is going to stay healthier longer.

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00:54:20.280 It does make sense.

00:54:36.640 How tough is it to stay?

00:54:38.340 How tough is that turnaround on the body, honestly?

00:54:40.820 Is it really tough?

00:54:41.680 Like Sunday to Sunday?

00:54:42.960 Yeah, on that Sunday to Sunday.

00:54:44.060 Oh, it's...

00:54:44.880 I like...

00:54:45.900 We don't get that.

00:54:46.940 It's hard to understand.

00:54:47.920 Yeah, no, it's literally...

00:54:49.580 I'm in a car accident every Sunday.

00:54:51.560 Multiple car accidents every Sunday.

00:54:53.100 Oh, damn.

00:54:53.680 Multiple every Sunday.

00:54:54.960 And like I said earlier, there's a part of luck to it.

00:54:58.540 There is a game...

00:54:59.700 I've had games where I hyperexcend my knee and that's going to affect your season.

00:55:04.900 That's going to be there.

00:55:05.620 Or you burst a bursasack in your knee.

00:55:07.540 That's going to be there for several weeks.

00:55:09.300 And if you get lucky, you don't have to deal with that stuff.

00:55:11.000 It's a little bit better.

00:55:11.900 But you're still getting these car accidents.

00:55:13.560 And like Monday, you actually...

00:55:16.700 Like Monday, I have to do like a big lower body lift.

00:55:18.780 I have to move.

00:55:19.380 Otherwise, you get really stiff and like you get more sore.

00:55:21.840 So you do a big lift.

00:55:22.880 Try to stay a little bit mobile.

00:55:24.320 But Mondays, I usually feel okay.

00:55:26.560 Tuesdays are really, really hard days.

00:55:28.720 Like it's like the second day afterwards, you kind of feel everything.

00:55:31.160 Whiplash kind of.

00:55:31.900 Yeah, it's literally what it is.

00:55:33.100 And like there...

00:55:34.040 And some Tuesdays are better than others.

00:55:35.540 Like some like...

00:55:36.560 And especially like if we play on the East Coast, we have a five-hour flight back.

00:55:39.380 I get home at 4 a.m.

00:55:40.900 Those are tough.

00:55:41.640 But like you get in these car accidents.

00:55:44.820 And like it takes like Thursday to Friday is when I start to feel like myself again.

00:55:49.240 And then like the longer end of the season you get, the more like your body, it's wear

00:55:53.900 and tear, wear and tear, wear and tear.

00:55:55.420 So like really now, like how I see it is if I'm not doing football, I'm doing recovery.

00:56:00.880 Whether it's tubs, whether it's BFR workouts, whether it's just movement, yoga, red light

00:56:06.800 therapy, saunas, like whatever it is that can make my body...

00:56:09.640 Hyperbaric chambers are big now.

00:56:11.960 Whatever is like available, that's all I do.

00:56:15.500 Like I get home from practice.

00:56:17.000 I get home at like, let's just say on a Wednesday, I'll be home at like 6, 6.30.

00:56:21.440 I'm instantly...

00:56:22.200 My next two and a half hours are rehabbing.

00:56:24.660 And like you can do a lot of stuff at the stadium.

00:56:26.380 What I've done is be...

00:56:29.440 Because I got a contract.

00:56:31.280 So I like...

00:56:31.680 I can afford to have a lot of that stuff in my house now.

00:56:33.780 So then I get home fast.

00:56:34.940 I can hang out with my wife for longer.

00:56:36.040 Because it's like my first two years and my first three years in the league, I was at

00:56:40.120 the facility from like, I think our meeting started.

00:56:42.800 Let's say if our meeting started at eight, I'm there from 6.15 until like 7.30, eight

00:56:46.460 o'clock at night for like...

00:56:48.600 Yeah.

00:56:49.040 It's just, it's a long day, especially.

00:56:50.640 And then like, I want to be home.

00:56:51.660 I want to be with my wife.

00:56:53.300 And so it's just like, I've purchased those things to have in my house.

00:56:56.140 And so I can just, I have a couple extra hours, but like literally that's all you do

00:56:58.480 now is rehab and rehabilitation.

00:57:00.020 And there are guys that don't do that.

00:57:01.400 I don't know how they survive.

00:57:02.900 I don't understand it.

00:57:03.980 It's wild, huh?

00:57:04.540 Yeah.

00:57:04.780 It's, it's actually crazy.

00:57:05.660 Like some guys, like they don't have to do all that stuff, but that's something I'd

00:57:08.620 like, I've dedicated my...

00:57:10.280 I mean, like the football window is, like I said, the average lifespan is three years.

00:57:13.720 So, I mean, like the window in the grand scheme of my life, my college, my rookie,

00:57:17.760 sorry, my freshman year, I had a coach, David Wright told me this.

00:57:20.940 He was like, he drew on a board is like, if you line here and lie here, let's just say

00:57:25.320 that's a hundred years, right?

00:57:26.300 That's your life.

00:57:27.020 I'll do it.

00:57:27.440 So you can see it a hundred years.

00:57:29.140 This is zero.

00:57:30.980 And like, so here you are, you're 18 years old.

00:57:33.420 You're right here.

00:57:34.740 This four-year window of college is this big.

00:57:37.600 And then you have the rest of your life.

00:57:39.220 Why not take advantage of that small ass window, right?

00:57:41.880 Do everything you can to be the best you can do those four years.

00:57:44.160 So now after college, now you get a chance in the NFL and now you're getting to the,

00:57:48.340 now it's this big, it's a bigger window, but it's still like a sliver.

00:57:50.940 It's like 12 to 12 years of your life.

00:57:53.680 Yeah.

00:57:53.820 One 10th of your life.

00:57:54.720 And so like, why not put all your effort into being available and being the best player

00:57:58.180 you can possibly be?

00:57:58.960 Yeah.

00:57:59.620 And like, like there are guys like, I don't touch, I don't ski.

00:58:02.740 I don't do anything possible.

00:58:03.820 Like I don't even play pickup basketball anymore.

00:58:05.740 Like, I'm just like, it's not working.

00:58:06.840 You do hide and go seek, you think?

00:58:08.300 I could do that.

00:58:09.100 Yeah.

00:58:09.320 Yeah.

00:58:09.400 Freeze tag.

00:58:09.980 Maybe I was a big freeze tag guy back in the day.

00:58:12.180 Do you ever play ghosts in the graveyard?

00:58:14.840 Like you have one, you play at night and like one person and like you have to hide.

00:58:18.380 And the whole point of the game is if they tag you, you're a ghost, but you have to make

00:58:21.600 it back to the home base, which is where the ghost counts from.

00:58:24.220 And they give you like, you like to go around the clock one time and then it strikes midnight

00:58:28.580 and then the ghost comes for you.

00:58:30.420 Oh, damn.

00:58:31.300 I used to play the hell out of that game.

00:58:32.680 It was so fun.

00:58:33.540 I never, I never got tagged.

00:58:34.680 Ghost in the, really?

00:58:35.740 Yeah.

00:58:35.840 Ghost in the graveyard.

00:58:36.500 It's so much fun.

00:58:37.920 Damn.

00:58:38.440 And that's like, that's what I played when I was like four or five, six.

00:58:40.800 Like that was, that was some of my favorite playing.

00:58:42.840 We didn't play.

00:58:43.580 I don't think we played that.

00:58:44.800 I don't know.

00:58:45.220 Dude, they had so many pedophiles in our neighborhood.

00:58:47.040 We didn't even go out.

00:58:47.680 You shouldn't hide.

00:58:48.860 Yeah.

00:58:49.540 Why not get found, dude?

00:58:51.320 Well, yeah.

00:58:51.900 Or if you do get found, it's by some grown man who has cable or whatever.

00:58:57.220 He has cable?

00:58:57.760 Or some bullshit.

00:58:58.740 He's got Kit Kat bars.

00:58:59.960 Yeah.

00:59:00.200 It's always just some fucking lie or something.

00:59:02.080 You know, I got two VCRs, you know?

00:59:04.220 Why?

00:59:04.580 Like we can watch a movie.

00:59:05.520 You can just look at the other one, you know, just some bait.

00:59:07.960 We'd have two movies on at the same time.

00:59:09.860 Whoa.

00:59:10.040 Yeah, dude.

00:59:10.560 Just shit to blow a kid's mind, you know?

00:59:12.600 That's funny.

00:59:14.920 What were you just talking about right before that, though?

00:59:17.320 Oh, the longevity.

00:59:18.680 Longevity.

00:59:19.020 Yeah, I was talking about like the window of your career and stuff.

00:59:21.160 Well, it even happens with comedy.

00:59:22.420 It's like, I know when I get back off the, like when I'm on the road, it's like I know

00:59:27.040 that I have to do yoga right before I go on stage, right?

00:59:29.500 Yeah.

00:59:29.700 I'll finish yoga literally probably about nine minutes before I go on, and then I'll get

00:59:35.200 in the shower.

00:59:35.940 I'll take like a three-minute shower.

00:59:37.500 Okay.

00:59:37.680 And then I'll get out, and it's just, that's my pattern, right?

00:59:40.260 It's like, if I'm up late, I'll make sure that I get eight hours of sleep.

00:59:43.380 Yeah.

00:59:44.100 Wait, so let me ask you this.

00:59:45.820 So like football on our game day, right, Sundays, depending on whenever you kick off

00:59:51.220 at 135, 125, whatever it is, the schedule is perfectly adjusted for, they'll tell you

00:59:57.000 when you should wake up, and like breakfast is here.

01:00:00.040 The bus leaves at this exact time, and it's, you know, in accordance, but it's always the

01:00:04.360 exact, like it's two and a half, it's three hours before kickoff.

01:00:06.760 It's two and a half hours before kickoff, and everything is regimented perfectly.

01:00:10.320 And so like I have the, every Sunday, I do the exact same thing from like, literally,

01:00:14.520 I mean, I usually, I'm very, I like my routines, like to get into the mindset and to flip the

01:00:20.040 switch to like go out there and play football.

01:00:22.300 And so like from about, yeah, I mean, from Saturday morning until after the game Sunday, like

01:00:28.040 I do the exact same thing every time.

01:00:29.720 Yeah.

01:00:30.120 It's wild.

01:00:30.920 And, but like, so like you were saying, like you do yoga and you go shower that habit.

01:00:34.800 Yeah.

01:00:35.020 That's kind of interesting to hear like how yours is different than mine, but you still

01:00:38.140 have something like that before you go on stage.

01:00:40.380 Yeah.

01:00:40.720 And when I get home, it's like, I'll have to like, I make sure I go to the, I make sure

01:00:44.460 I go to the workout with the trainer guys whenever I'm home.

01:00:46.880 Right.

01:00:47.080 I make sure I go get the NAD and like, uh, I'll get the NAD and the, uh, extra fluids.

01:00:52.960 Probably.

01:00:53.740 I probably go every other day.

01:00:55.760 Do you?

01:00:56.300 Yeah.

01:00:56.440 And if I don't get an AD every time, I'll get at least the extra fluids every time just

01:01:00.360 to keep myself hydrated.

01:01:01.460 Where do you go for that?

01:01:02.560 I go to Arete.

01:01:03.820 Yeah.

01:01:04.160 Arete.

01:01:04.580 Arete.

01:01:05.020 Yeah.

01:01:05.720 Or yeah, they keep changing the name of it, but they, um, but yeah, it's nice in there.

01:01:10.780 The women in there is good with the needle in there.

01:01:13.020 They're, they're, they're know what they're doing, which is wonderful.

01:01:15.220 You ever have, you ever have a bad like IV experience?

01:01:18.680 Dude.

01:01:19.320 Plenty.

01:01:19.920 My buddy.

01:01:20.900 The other day.

01:01:21.660 What?

01:01:22.180 My buddy.

01:01:22.720 The other day, he fucking, I'm backstage.

01:01:24.540 He's like, yeah, I'll get an IV too.

01:01:25.700 I'm like, yeah, give up boy.

01:01:26.660 Right.

01:01:27.120 Bro.

01:01:27.320 This fucking lady put like fucking nine holes in it and never got it in.

01:01:33.140 Oh.

01:01:34.160 Like what?

01:01:34.720 And he's like six to him.

01:01:35.900 You can't find a fucking vein on this guy.

01:01:38.240 Dude.

01:01:38.460 That, that gives me anxiety.

01:01:40.160 I don't, I'm not a big needle guy by any means.

01:01:42.280 I had my first IV I ever got was cause I had to get, uh, I had to get ankle surgery

01:01:45.980 in college.

01:01:47.080 And, uh, the first time she missed my vein six times and then she got, and then she called

01:01:53.440 someone else in to do it and they did it and I was fine.

01:01:55.880 A month later, I had to go back and do the other ankle.

01:01:58.500 And, um, the lady got on her first try.

01:02:01.540 There wasn't a lid on it.

01:02:02.340 And my blood just started squirting out and I just passed out.

01:02:05.380 Those are my first two experiences with IVs.

01:02:07.400 And so I, I'm kind of shook with them, but I do it like I, you need the liquid, you need

01:02:11.200 the hydration, like the benefits that they have outweigh my mild uncomfortableness.

01:02:16.800 Yeah.

01:02:17.120 I think that's it.

01:02:17.840 And I start to get over it.

01:02:18.900 I will.

01:02:19.320 What I'll do is when I'm to make them do one, two, three, four, they put the needle in

01:02:22.600 and then I'll like jab my fingers into the side of my head to give an opposite pain.

01:02:27.480 Yeah.

01:02:27.740 So pain transfer theory.

01:02:28.640 Yeah.

01:02:29.180 I bite the shit out of my tongue.

01:02:30.480 It helps dude.

01:02:31.180 I just bite my tongue.

01:02:32.140 I haven't done that.

01:02:32.900 It sucks.

01:02:34.300 Or bite your lip.

01:02:35.500 Either one.

01:02:36.000 I'm not doing that.

01:02:36.540 It's crazy.

01:02:37.000 I feel like it is psychopathic.

01:02:38.580 So next time I see you, you just have eaten your whole lip off.

01:02:43.500 Oh, no, I bite the hell out of my tongue if I'm doing something uncomfortable.

01:02:47.180 Oh, that's interesting.

01:02:48.640 Yeah.

01:02:48.980 But I'll do that.

01:02:49.700 I'll like, I'm sure the women in there are.

01:02:51.720 What is wrong with them?

01:02:53.340 They must think men are just the whip because they're like having to give birth or whatever,

01:02:57.020 like pierce their breasts or whatever.

01:02:58.600 But like men, men are like, you know, we can't even take the, take that needle from

01:03:03.440 them.

01:03:04.060 Um, but I do think the NAD is interesting.

01:03:06.340 I noticed with the NAD, I'm able to just go from one, like this exercise, this exercise,

01:03:12.180 keep going.

01:03:12.780 It's almost like I'm not even in my body.

01:03:14.280 It's like, I'm just keep doing it.

01:03:15.500 You're not like, I, I, I don't do it all the time.

01:03:18.780 Um, I do, I do like it though.

01:03:20.480 Like I think I was just, I wake up with more energy.

01:03:23.400 Like that's the thing.

01:03:24.160 I just, that's what I'll always do it like in the afternoon and it kind of makes me sleepy.

01:03:27.920 Like I'm not gonna lie, but like the next day I feel fantastic.

01:03:30.100 And that's kind of how I view it.

01:03:31.420 And, uh, I don't do it all the time.

01:03:32.740 I know some guys that like do a thousand milliliters.

01:03:35.080 I'm like, you guys are psychopaths.

01:03:36.680 Like I was doing, I got up to like 500 and I was doing about 22 minutes.

01:03:39.860 I was pretty proud of myself.

01:03:40.920 Damn.

01:03:41.080 That's insane.

01:03:41.880 That was like, that was a couple of years ago.

01:03:43.380 Like now, dude, I can already do a hundred.

01:03:45.300 I'm just like, Oh, this is the worst experience of my life.

01:03:47.840 It just burned you down.

01:03:49.040 You guys were doing it five years ago.

01:03:50.680 No, sorry.

01:03:51.280 Like, no, I was doing, I was doing 500 milliliters, like two to three years ago.

01:03:55.120 Okay.

01:03:55.460 That's when I kind of got into it.

01:03:56.400 Wow.

01:03:56.420 That's still a long time ago.

01:03:57.380 I feel like it's just kind of become popular amongst just like, I just, I'm just a pretty

01:04:01.780 much a regular person.

01:04:02.820 So I would hear about like more knowledgeable.

01:04:04.400 Like people are just under maybe six months ago.

01:04:06.580 Yeah.

01:04:06.820 I think it just gets promoted a little bit better.

01:04:08.560 Like the benefits of it.

01:04:09.600 Like there's are things out there that, well, one for athletes, it's legal and it's healthy

01:04:14.040 for you.

01:04:14.380 So it's just like, well, why would I not do something that's going to help my body and

01:04:18.000 just feel better overall?

01:04:19.540 It is expensive though.

01:04:21.000 Oh my gosh.

01:04:21.620 It's a dollar a milliliter.

01:04:22.800 It's crazy.

01:04:23.420 It's crazy, dude.

01:04:24.040 It's crazy.

01:04:24.760 It's like printer ink.

01:04:25.920 Yeah, dude.

01:04:26.460 Yeah.

01:04:26.680 Why is that so expensive?

01:04:28.280 Crazy, dude.

01:04:29.420 It is crazy.

01:04:30.040 They jack it up.

01:04:30.860 I guess if you want to read, you're going to fucking pay for it, you pussy.

01:04:35.900 But, um, so if you got into wrestling, dude, say after this, cause that's what I, I think

01:04:40.360 I could, you start to become some, some guys, they become some players or some, some athletes,

01:04:48.900 they are also able to become like a character in a way.

01:04:53.360 I feel like you have like the enough energy and like, just like this kind of psycho charisma,

01:05:00.100 I would call it where you can also be like a character.

01:05:03.480 Yeah.

01:05:03.580 And it's like, I do mean it as a compliment, but it's like, so I could almost see you doing

01:05:08.580 wrestling one day.

01:05:09.840 I would love to be in the ring at some point.

01:05:11.420 Really?

01:05:11.820 Yeah.

01:05:12.100 So I, I've been, I was in a match.

01:05:14.200 Uh, it was actually right after I got drafted by the Niners.

01:05:16.720 My buddy was doing a, um, like a local, it was like an hour away from my, from my house

01:05:22.720 in Iowa.

01:05:23.560 He was doing a show and it's actually, uh, Seth Rollins, WWE wrestler.

01:05:27.040 It's his wrestling school in Davenport, Iowa.

01:05:29.260 And they put on shows.

01:05:30.860 And so he was in the quad cities, isn't it?

01:05:32.260 Yeah.

01:05:32.400 Quad cities.

01:05:32.780 Oh yeah.

01:05:33.300 Yeah.

01:05:33.460 Look at this guy.

01:05:34.260 I love the Midwest.

01:05:35.960 I've been to field of dreams, man.

01:05:37.820 I've been to where the plane crashed, where, uh, Richie Valens died and the big bopper.

01:05:42.540 I love that.

01:05:43.200 Yeah.

01:05:43.500 I can't remember the town name, but anyway, good for you.

01:05:45.860 I, the Midwest is awesome.

01:05:46.900 It's just different.

01:05:47.940 Yeah.

01:05:48.380 It's a lot different than California.

01:05:49.640 It's a lot different than here.

01:05:50.640 I like it, dude.

01:05:51.400 I like some grandmother fucking forcing some cookies in you.

01:05:55.320 You're going to, you're going to eat and you're going to like it.

01:05:57.300 Yes, ma'am.

01:05:58.260 And the roads, the tar on the roads, we get all hot in the summer and it would bubble.

01:06:02.480 Dude, I fucking love that.

01:06:03.760 And your bike tire would just get all caked up in it too.

01:06:06.420 Oh, that's hilarious.

01:06:07.460 I love that shit.

01:06:08.380 What were we talking about?

01:06:09.500 Um, we're talking about you doing wrestling.

01:06:11.100 So first of all, you went to Seth Rollins, you had a school in Davenport.

01:06:13.860 So they put on a show and I got in the ring right after I got drafted and I did a, I got

01:06:17.860 to pull a stone cold stunner on somebody that was exhilarating.

01:06:21.020 Um, they were like, I want to say there's between 40 to 60 people in this little arena.

01:06:27.380 I mean, and it was like, it was like, um, literally it was like just, it was a building

01:06:31.340 that had, didn't have, uh, like seating in it.

01:06:33.680 So it was like just an open space, like a rec center.

01:06:35.400 Sorry.

01:06:35.780 Okay.

01:06:35.980 Yeah.

01:06:36.140 Like a rec center.

01:06:36.880 Oh yeah.

01:06:37.060 And there's literally like 40 people in there, maybe.

01:06:39.780 And the pop, everybody standing up and cheering.

01:06:42.080 Like that was one of the most exhilarating feelings I've ever had in my life.

01:06:44.560 So like literally from that moment, I was like, I get why people wrestle.

01:06:47.780 It is exhilarating.

01:06:48.780 When you get the crowd to go.

01:06:50.560 Oh my gosh.

01:06:53.060 Literally.

01:06:53.460 It's so much fun.

01:06:54.700 And so, yeah, like I, I can't wait till I have the opportunity to get thrown through

01:06:58.280 a table or throw someone through a table.

01:06:59.820 I can't wait.

01:07:00.960 It's going to be amazing.

01:07:01.720 Yeah.

01:07:01.960 That'd be, it'd be really, really interesting.

01:07:03.940 Do you think who, who from the NFL would, if you had to do tag teaming, if you had to

01:07:08.680 have a tag team partner from the NFL, who would you pull in?

01:07:11.240 No, like from like an athlete standpoint, like just football player, I'd pick Trent

01:07:16.280 Williams because he could, he's one of the, yeah, he's incredible.

01:07:19.860 And bring him up and see if you can get him topless or whatever.

01:07:22.360 Just cause we want to see what, who he is.

01:07:23.740 Look up Trent Williams back tattoo.

01:07:25.740 His nickname's a silverback.

01:07:27.120 Oh really?

01:07:28.000 He's literally a gorilla.

01:07:29.320 Oh dang.

01:07:30.200 Yeah.

01:07:30.640 He's one of the guy, one of the five guys on my team that could kill me with a punch.

01:07:34.280 Wow.

01:07:35.160 Oh yeah.

01:07:35.420 There it is.

01:07:36.620 That's yeah.

01:07:37.160 I mean, he's, he's like fully tatted now up top.

01:07:39.920 Oh, that's him.

01:07:40.840 He's big.

01:07:41.800 Yeah.

01:07:41.920 That's young Trent Williams right there, but he's a stud, but I would pick him.

01:07:47.340 Now, if I was going to pick someone who I think would do like, be a good WWE character,

01:07:51.880 like it'd be a really good WWE wrestler.

01:07:54.340 Um, I think, I mean, Travis Kelsey, like we'd have a pretty fun, uh, like tight end, tight

01:07:59.980 end duo right there.

01:08:01.020 Yeah.

01:08:01.140 The tightest ends y'all could be called ends that are tight.

01:08:05.740 I don't know.

01:08:06.680 Tightest.

01:08:06.940 I mean, I think you'll get a new type of fan in the arena.

01:08:09.460 You're not wrong.

01:08:11.880 I mean, and that's fine.

01:08:13.120 What does that fan you?

01:08:14.260 I mean, no, sir.

01:08:15.460 Oh, okay.

01:08:15.980 I love women's, but I think that there is a, there's, I think, yeah, you could get a

01:08:21.280 whole new.

01:08:21.540 My current profession, I play in tights as it is.

01:08:23.760 So.

01:08:23.820 That's a good point, huh?

01:08:24.760 Yeah.

01:08:25.040 I'm used to it, but no, like there are some great characters in the NFL who I think could

01:08:28.620 make easy transitions over.

01:08:29.780 I mean, you saw Gronk did it.

01:08:30.860 Like he was at WrestleMania several years ago.

01:08:32.900 But did he want it though?

01:08:34.780 Gronk, I feel like gets, he, he like, he, he gets put in all like everything, you know,

01:08:38.840 he's selling shave lotion.

01:08:40.240 He's selling damn Parkers or whatever.

01:08:42.460 I saw him on a, um, somebody had him in a, uh, somebody was doing animals, selling puppies

01:08:50.380 or whatever, rescue animals or something.

01:08:52.020 So I think, you know, he's almost does so many things.

01:08:55.700 He does do a lot.

01:08:56.440 And I was like, did he want it though?

01:08:57.600 Like I could see you maybe becoming a member in it.

01:09:01.440 Do you feel like you would just do it as a fun thing or do you feel like it could be

01:09:03.800 something you would actually, I think I would have really enjoyed doing that right now.

01:09:08.400 Like I will say like after meetings, like I've got an awesome opportunity.

01:09:11.740 WWE is a fantastic company, like how they organize and run their stuff.

01:09:14.720 Like I've got, I've gotten able to go, I've been able to go to like three WrestleMania.

01:09:17.640 Oh wow.

01:09:18.320 And this literally this last one, like the way that it's ran, pick this up, pick me and

01:09:21.920 my dad and one of my buddies up and my wife, we got to go backstage.

01:09:24.680 I got to hang out with the undertaker, stone cold, Steve Austin.

01:09:26.640 I got to meet all these like people that I'm a huge fan.

01:09:28.800 And then also rest wrestlers were like when they're behind the scenes.

01:09:31.440 Like they're just, they're normal.

01:09:32.880 Like I'm an NFL football player and people see me like, oh my gosh, some, like, some

01:09:36.060 like kids are like, oh my gosh, it's George Kittle.

01:09:37.960 Like that's how I was a kid.

01:09:38.840 Like NFL players are kind of superheroes.

01:09:40.720 That's how kind of I am with wrestlers.

01:09:42.040 I'm like, it's so cool.

01:09:42.880 But as soon as you get them off the stage, they're just normal people like the rest of

01:09:45.940 us.

01:09:46.360 So just like, just have a conversation with them.

01:09:47.900 They're all so cool.

01:09:48.640 Like multiple guys are just hanging out with my dad, talking about random stuff.

01:09:51.500 And like being able to have that access is so much fun.

01:09:53.940 And so like, that's part of the other reason that makes me really want to, you know, try it.

01:09:57.360 And I think I would enjoy it, but I was sorry.

01:09:58.920 I was going to say is like their schedule, like they're on the road 320, 40 days.

01:10:04.360 They don't get enough credit for their schedule.

01:10:05.900 Oh my gosh.

01:10:07.140 Like if they're doing the, cause you see everyone, you see Monday night raw, you see, I think

01:10:12.020 AEW is on Wednesdays and then you have Friday night Smackdown.

01:10:15.080 And then you have, if there's a pay-per-view it's on Saturdays or Sundays.

01:10:18.160 And then you don't even count the ones that aren't on TV.

01:10:20.140 There's like two non, non televised shows a week.

01:10:23.960 Yeah.

01:10:24.120 There's like AEW is a couple of other ones, but like, no WWE puts them on.

01:10:27.320 And they'll do like, they'll go to like the Dubuque, Iowa, and it won't be on TV, but

01:10:31.480 it'll be in that area, whatever arena that is selling tickets and they're just selling

01:10:34.600 tickets to put on the show.

01:10:35.620 So it's for local shows.

01:10:36.460 And so it's a much smaller production than like the live TV ones, but I've gone to a

01:10:39.880 couple of those and they're still really fun, but it's just like this, they're, they're

01:10:43.880 in the ring.

01:10:44.240 Like I perform once a week, they're in the ring and we're at, yes, there's a script to

01:10:49.080 it, but like, you can't fake falling off, like getting thrown through a table and you

01:10:52.720 can't fake jumping off the top rope to the ground, which is a 10 foot.

01:10:55.440 It's like, even if you went to Phantom of the Opera, but what if people are beating

01:10:58.440 the fuck out of each other during it?

01:10:59.820 Yeah.

01:11:00.100 Like, come on.

01:11:00.760 Like, it's going to hurt that you can't fake it.

01:11:03.600 So like, that's why I've decided I have appreciation for wrestlers.

01:11:06.480 Cause it is a grind.

01:11:07.640 One of my buddies, like he's been doing it since like he stopped playing football.

01:11:11.600 What?

01:11:11.900 So like, let's just say six years he has driven, like he lives in Davenport, Iowa, and he's

01:11:17.180 driven probably.

01:11:18.480 He, I mean, he goes to Maryland to wrestle, Florida to wrestle, California to wrestle,

01:11:22.840 Arizona to wrestle, Nashville to like, and he just drives.

01:11:25.680 He doesn't fly.

01:11:26.320 Well, that's another thing.

01:11:27.080 They make them drive, George.

01:11:28.040 They get to a lot of these guys, they get, they land, they go to Avis, they go to the

01:11:32.000 rental.

01:11:32.480 It is a, you have to, it is a grind.

01:11:35.220 It is on you.

01:11:36.220 Yes.

01:11:36.680 It's on you to show up and be available to wrestle.

01:11:39.260 Like then you have like, and like the superstars in WWE, like they probably, they fly and they

01:11:43.400 do stuff, but like a lot of people learn to just drive, match to match week to week, year

01:11:47.660 to year.

01:11:48.060 And not even the superstars.

01:11:49.060 Like I'm friends with the Miz who's a wrestler, right?

01:11:51.100 Love the Miz.

01:11:51.360 Yeah.

01:11:51.520 Oh, the Miz is great, man.

01:11:52.560 Great energy.

01:11:53.560 You guys a little bit remind me of each other a little bit, actually.

01:11:57.460 I think that's a compliment.

01:11:58.600 Yeah, it is a compliment.

01:11:59.620 I like the Miz.

01:12:00.180 He's great.

01:12:00.540 He's good people.

01:12:01.140 I love how big of a football fan he is.

01:12:02.340 I do appreciate that.

01:12:02.920 He is.

01:12:03.360 He's a, he's a, he's a, he's a good dude.

01:12:05.920 He, um, but he would talk about how like you had to like pay your, I mean, you would,

01:12:09.840 he's like, you get there, there's fans that are excited about the airport, but then you

01:12:13.180 just, you have to go get your rental car.

01:12:14.740 You have to fucking get in.

01:12:15.860 You have to drive two and a half hours.

01:12:17.620 Then you have to go, uh, run through the script in the ring.

01:12:20.620 It's like, I'm like, damn, it's a lot.

01:12:22.880 It's a lot.

01:12:23.640 And then you have to perform.

01:12:25.380 Yeah.

01:12:25.840 Think about it.

01:12:26.180 Like, think about like, you have to put oil on your body.

01:12:28.700 Y'all do like get the, like you, like us, like you'd have to wet your hair back.

01:12:32.520 And like, so it doesn't get all on your face.

01:12:34.020 And then some of those guys are out there performing.

01:12:36.200 Like not every match is like super long, but like there are guys that go out there and do

01:12:39.400 like the 25 minute matches.

01:12:40.660 Like that's a lot of cardio.

01:12:42.240 Oh yeah.

01:12:42.740 Oh my gosh.

01:12:43.140 That's like two more.

01:12:43.680 Yeah.

01:12:44.080 Yeah.

01:12:44.320 Like being an orange theory, but people are beating the fuck out of each other in it.

01:12:47.600 With chairs, dude, it's nuts.

01:12:50.200 Just like the time that it like the time and then like the physicalness and like, they

01:12:53.840 don't get time to rehab and like do all that stuff.

01:12:55.720 They don't have access to all that stuff.

01:12:56.600 Like I have a facility I get to go to every day.

01:12:58.360 Yeah.

01:12:58.740 They're at the hotel pool.

01:13:00.520 Like they're at the hotel hot tub.

01:13:02.000 Hopefully it has a bathtub so I can take a hot bath tonight to warm up my legs.

01:13:05.480 Yeah.

01:13:05.740 It's crazy.

01:13:06.180 You probably go to the, yeah.

01:13:07.300 You go to like the ice machine and you open it up and, uh, you know, half of the Hardy

01:13:12.160 boys are there or whatever.

01:13:14.240 This is crazy.

01:13:16.100 Yes.

01:13:16.500 I think it's a tough, it's a really, really tough gig.

01:13:19.060 I just think there's a lot of things that are a little bit behind the scenes of a lot

01:13:23.660 of performances that you just see the, the show and you don't see like a lot of the other

01:13:30.340 stuff that has to go on.

01:13:31.760 No.

01:13:31.900 Um, do I, I like, I always enjoy whenever I'm backstage and you can like catch someone

01:13:36.780 like a, like a tag team with the other tag team fake going through the match.

01:13:41.540 It's so cool to see that stuff.

01:13:43.420 It's just, it's really interesting.

01:13:44.580 Cause I'm like, wow, like there's a lot of intricacies to this.

01:13:47.380 And like, there's a, cause there's always a buildup to the match and then like, you just

01:13:50.840 for them to know it.

01:13:52.080 And cause it's not memorized, but like they're out there trusting each other that the guy's

01:13:56.000 going to do what they expect them to do.

01:13:57.340 Yeah.

01:13:57.700 It's crazy.

01:13:58.520 And if you have to memorize something and you're dumb, it's fucking hard.

01:14:01.680 Oh my gosh.

01:14:02.560 It has to be so difficult.

01:14:03.880 Oh dude.

01:14:04.360 I've, I've was, you know, I wouldn't say I'm, yeah, I'm like kind of, you know, but

01:14:09.160 I've definitely been dumb and had to memorize shit and not done it.

01:14:12.120 It just couldn't.

01:14:13.940 There's like, there are some things that are just hard and it is what it is.

01:14:16.800 And remember studying in high school and you'd be like, you close the book and like, I have

01:14:20.260 no idea.

01:14:21.080 I'd study for 90 minutes and have no idea.

01:14:23.380 Oh my gosh, dude.

01:14:24.660 That was, yeah.

01:14:25.500 Like, I'm like, okay, where I just, there's two hours.

01:14:27.580 Okay.

01:14:28.400 I know I got to go do the whole thing again.

01:14:29.600 Cause I forgot what I just read.

01:14:31.460 Sick.

01:14:32.440 Awesome.

01:14:33.160 Oh my God.

01:14:33.600 I was a big, I had to highlight everything and then I'd have to go back and then read

01:14:36.520 the highlights.

01:14:37.000 And then sometimes I'd be like, why did I highlight the whole page?

01:14:39.760 I might as well not have a fucking highlighter.

01:14:42.060 I should just read the whole thing again.

01:14:44.720 Oh my God.

01:14:45.420 That was the worst.

01:14:46.800 Oh my goodness.

01:14:48.600 Yeah, dude.

01:14:49.360 You're the only one refilling your highlighter.

01:14:52.380 I'd be sitting there and like, the only that wouldn't be highlighted is like the, like

01:14:56.700 I skipped that word and I was like, well, the other things are pretty important.

01:15:00.880 So I guess I don't need a highlighter.

01:15:02.900 I'll just read the whole thing again.

01:15:04.000 You'd even highlight the picture.

01:15:04.860 You'd like draw like a highlighter around the picture.

01:15:07.380 Just not this and this flip it.

01:15:09.880 Oh, that page too.

01:15:11.120 Okay.

01:15:12.140 Oh my goodness.

01:15:13.880 Hey, could I snag a water by chance?

01:15:15.600 Yeah, for sure.

01:15:16.460 Please.

01:15:16.800 And thank you.

01:15:17.760 We got another, you have to pee or anything?

01:15:21.320 Thank you for asking.

01:15:22.240 That's very kind of you.

01:15:23.480 Oh, I just, well, it creeps me out being around somebody that has a, somebody has a full bladder

01:15:27.840 and they, and they're just staying like to be talking to someone and they're knowing

01:15:32.120 that they're full of pee at the same time.

01:15:34.560 Something about that creeps me out.

01:15:35.920 Dude, I am mildly, um, like what's it called?

01:15:40.420 What's like, if you're don't like close, like tight spaces, cluster phobic, cluster phobic.

01:15:44.120 Yeah.

01:15:44.620 So like airplane bathroom, airplane bathrooms, I don't do well in those.

01:15:48.580 It is weird in there.

01:15:49.480 Dude, it's super tight.

01:15:50.480 So like I go five hour flights without going to the bathroom.

01:15:53.780 Wow.

01:15:54.400 Constantly.

01:15:55.020 But you could probably hold a lot more urine than a regular person.

01:15:57.540 Sure.

01:15:58.000 But like, I mean, like there are guys that go two to three times on a flight and like, I'm

01:16:01.300 still hydrated.

01:16:01.860 It's not like I'm not drinking water.

01:16:02.820 Like I go through like two of those big Essentia bottles, stuff like that.

01:16:06.240 And it's just like, nah, I'm just uncomfortable.

01:16:09.020 I'll hold it.

01:16:09.500 I'm good.

01:16:10.080 Wow.

01:16:10.340 Just ride the bag.

01:16:11.160 Just ride it.

01:16:11.860 And like, there are times like, and luckily in the last like two years, like we've like

01:16:15.480 kind of changed the plane that we were on.

01:16:17.200 So there's a bigger bathroom.

01:16:18.300 So I feel less bad about it, but like, it's still like, it's, it's not my favorite thing

01:16:21.840 to do.

01:16:22.400 I get, it's weird.

01:16:23.660 I don't like small, close spaces.

01:16:24.920 Like you, I don't think you could pay me an amount of money on a submarine.

01:16:27.800 Oh yeah.

01:16:29.400 Can you imagine going down like a thousand feet underwater?

01:16:31.660 And if anything happens, you just implode and you die.

01:16:35.400 Well, first of all, it seems so dumb.

01:16:37.920 Dude, why would you do it?

01:16:39.460 Why would you go down there?

01:16:40.560 Like, what were they doing down there?

01:16:42.760 Like, like 50 years ago too.

01:16:44.300 Like, right.

01:16:45.180 Like 40 years ago.

01:16:45.940 Like, what are we doing?

01:16:46.740 Like, and like, who's like, who built it?

01:16:48.680 I was like, this is going to work.

01:16:50.120 How many, how many people got into a submarine and went down 500 feet, like in the prototypes

01:16:53.860 and it just imploded on.

01:16:55.020 I'm like, ah, that wasn't the right model.

01:16:56.600 We're going to fix a couple of things.

01:16:58.960 Like, who's the test dummy for that?

01:17:00.420 Also, you put like seven guys in a fucking tank, right?

01:17:04.880 And if they pop up in another country, they're going to get, like there's seven of them.

01:17:08.500 Yeah.

01:17:08.660 What's going on?

01:17:10.040 Oh, that, uh, that, like, yeah.

01:17:11.960 And then lying to your wife the whole time.

01:17:13.960 That's got to be the hardest part of it.

01:17:16.360 Where were you?

01:17:17.700 Yeah.

01:17:18.220 I don't know.

01:17:18.820 I don't know.

01:17:19.760 Underwater?

01:17:20.400 Like, I don't know.

01:17:21.160 Yeah.

01:17:21.580 Let's just say I'm underwater, man.

01:17:23.520 I'm hanging with the boys.

01:17:24.400 I don't know what you want for me.

01:17:24.780 I'm hanging with the boys, dude.

01:17:26.700 But yeah, no.

01:17:27.060 Like, so yeah, like I'm mildly claustrophobic and it's just like, I don't.

01:17:31.360 What about that helmet though?

01:17:32.720 No, it's just, it's where my body, like I've been in a lot of MRI machines, like just in

01:17:36.720 football, like that's just my job.

01:17:37.880 Like I get banged up.

01:17:38.700 There's certain things you got to look at.

01:17:39.840 I had, um, at the combine before my rookie year, I had to get like six MRIs in one night.

01:17:46.340 It wasn't really fun.

01:17:47.460 But one of them was I had to do both my shoulders because I've, I, both my labrums, I tore them

01:17:52.000 in high school.

01:17:52.540 I never had surgery on them.

01:17:53.760 And so like, I've never really had shoulder problems.

01:17:55.660 I can't throw a football very well.

01:17:57.540 Um, but, uh, like the NFL teams wanted to see MRIs of them.

01:18:00.700 They wanted to get their own pictures.

01:18:01.880 And so they put me in this, a smaller MRI machine and I had to sit like this and it

01:18:06.760 was an hour and 45 minute MRI.

01:18:08.380 Cause they did both shoulders at once.

01:18:10.020 And that was, that was a very difficult time for me.

01:18:12.280 Like I was, I took, I sleep in my MRIs too.

01:18:14.680 For some reason, the noise like knocks me out, but I woke up with about 45 minutes left

01:18:18.680 and I like, you know, like, have you ever been an MRI?

01:18:20.740 Oh yeah.

01:18:21.320 Yes.

01:18:21.520 But like, you know, like you can squeeze the panic button basically.

01:18:24.160 It took me a lot to not squeeze that button.

01:18:26.320 Like it was, that was, that was one of the most clusterfogicals I've ever been.

01:18:29.300 I, it was off.

01:18:30.060 I was in a full sweat.

01:18:30.960 There wasn't a fan.

01:18:31.780 So it was hot, full sweat.

01:18:34.000 I was like, Oh my, getting out of that was one of the best moments of my life.

01:18:37.660 Oh, like an escape room kind of dude.

01:18:40.660 It was just like worst one.

01:18:41.960 And it's like $10,000.

01:18:43.440 Like, okay, here's one.

01:18:44.720 Would you rather drown or get buried alive?

01:18:47.380 Oh, let me think about it for a second.

01:18:55.560 All right.

01:18:56.040 Let me think about the second one.

01:18:57.060 What was the second one?

01:18:58.260 Buried alive or drown?

01:19:00.060 Yeah.

01:19:00.320 I was just, let me think about buried alive.

01:19:02.420 Like you're in a wood box, 10 feet underground.

01:19:06.080 Oh bro.

01:19:07.080 Put me a little closer.

01:19:08.640 No.

01:19:09.320 12 feet.

01:19:10.340 Oh, come on, dude.

01:19:12.160 You ever see kill Bill when she breaks out and climbs out of the hole?

01:19:14.680 Uh, I don't know if I have or not.

01:19:16.420 I don't know which one that is, but there's a scene where she's literally in there and

01:19:18.700 she's like punches the box, breaks through and she climbs out of a grave.

01:19:22.300 Well, the more feet you give me, the scarier it is for some reason.

01:19:25.720 Like you're okay.

01:19:26.200 You're not getting out of the box.

01:19:27.260 There's nothing you can do.

01:19:28.120 You're not getting out.

01:19:29.380 But at least just put me at two feet so I feel like I can.

01:19:32.260 You're not getting out.

01:19:33.520 Oh, you're sick.

01:19:35.280 You're not getting out, dude.

01:19:37.140 So these are conversations I have with my friends.

01:19:38.840 So buried alive, right?

01:19:40.520 Yeah.

01:19:41.140 So alive, you're going to be in there.

01:19:43.340 You're in a coffin basically.

01:19:44.920 Right.

01:19:45.220 But you're going to be able to, first of all, you'd be able to convince yourself, okay,

01:19:47.880 I'm like doing like a cleanse or whatever.

01:19:50.260 I'm dieting.

01:19:51.020 No, like a guy literally just looks at you and goes, you're going to go in this box.

01:19:53.260 I'm going to put you in the ground.

01:19:54.520 Okay.

01:19:55.180 And you're not getting out.

01:19:56.620 And that's it.

01:19:58.500 And there's no chance you're getting out.

01:20:00.540 What would you rather do?

01:20:02.160 I put me in the water, man.

01:20:03.760 You think?

01:20:04.480 Well, you just go to sleep.

01:20:05.260 You just pass out.

01:20:06.940 No, you don't pass out, dude.

01:20:08.340 You ever been?

01:20:09.080 No, but like think about it.

01:20:11.580 Isn't that like the Navy SEALs training?

01:20:12.840 They drown you and then they resuscitate you.

01:20:16.100 No, I think that's like the mob or something.

01:20:18.460 No, that's a real thing, dude.

01:20:19.620 Really?

01:20:19.980 That's a real training thing.

01:20:21.300 Do that.

01:20:21.700 Look it up.

01:20:22.440 Navy SEALs drowning one another.

01:20:24.780 That's a thing, dude.

01:20:25.460 I swear to God.

01:20:26.680 Really?

01:20:27.320 Now, probably.

01:20:28.220 I mean, who knows what the fuck they're doing now?

01:20:30.360 Well, so like you have to be prepared for anything and then you got to like, you have

01:20:32.580 to save your teammates life, shit like that.

01:20:34.160 And so, but sorry about what you're saying.

01:20:36.940 Yeah.

01:20:37.140 It's like, yeah.

01:20:38.500 And so like, I would rather, I think just go underwater and pass out from not being

01:20:43.280 able to breathe because it's loss of oxygen.

01:20:45.160 But that's not.

01:20:45.640 But then you could be alive.

01:20:46.500 You could be in that box for 24 hours.

01:20:48.940 20.

01:20:49.340 What are you?

01:20:49.540 No, like days.

01:20:50.360 Think about it.

01:20:50.700 You could be in there for days.

01:20:51.380 You could be in that box for days, dude.

01:20:52.620 You're not going to be in there.

01:20:53.160 Yeah.

01:20:54.040 Oh, does that sound terrible?

01:20:55.820 I don't know.

01:20:56.260 How big is it?

01:20:56.820 How little is the box?

01:20:58.080 Like you have like two inches on each side.

01:21:00.640 Oh God.

01:21:01.440 I thought you meant like one of those Aaron Rogers drug boxes that he was in.

01:21:04.640 Yeah.

01:21:05.400 What do you think he did in there?

01:21:07.180 Oh, I'm sure.

01:21:07.820 Well, I don't know if he did like ayahuasca.

01:21:09.880 I know he was like.

01:21:10.920 Wouldn't it be aggressive to do like a, like a hard psychedelic in that area?

01:21:15.160 Like being in that dark hole?

01:21:17.080 Well, I think it was, I think it was like a nice enough room.

01:21:19.640 I think it was, the room was like about this.

01:21:20.960 It was probably about 300 square feet.

01:21:22.240 So I think it was like, no, like, Oh, I don't know, man.

01:21:27.080 In the dark.

01:21:27.800 That's not for me.

01:21:28.560 Like that.

01:21:29.020 I under, like, I, I don't understand it.

01:21:31.180 Like I appreciate him for like, you know, good for you for wanting to try that.

01:21:34.040 I don't know if I will ever do that, but.

01:21:37.720 It's okay.

01:21:38.280 It was something.

01:21:39.020 Yeah.

01:21:39.360 The depth.

01:21:39.860 I think it was about like a site depravate or like, just like what would happen if you

01:21:43.480 don't, if you're not without the stimulus, you know?

01:21:45.920 Yeah, for sure.

01:21:46.400 And like, there's no phone, there's no communication with anybody else.

01:21:48.740 Like you're literally alone with your thoughts.

01:21:50.560 You're alone with your thoughts, which is.

01:21:51.820 You can see what your thoughts are.

01:21:52.880 Yeah.

01:21:53.020 It's just like cool for him.

01:21:54.300 Like, I don't know how old Aaron is, but he's been in the league for a long time.

01:21:57.180 He's going to be in the hall of fame.

01:21:58.540 Right.

01:21:59.060 So it's just like, he has a super bowl.

01:22:01.680 Uh, he has what, I think he has multiple MVPs.

01:22:04.060 Like he's a hall of famer.

01:22:04.960 So like, do you want to continue to play football?

01:22:07.260 He doesn't like, I mean, I like.

01:22:09.520 He doesn't have to.

01:22:10.240 He doesn't have to, if he doesn't want to.

01:22:11.460 So it's like, do you, do I still want to do this?

01:22:13.440 Like, do I still love the game that I, you know, that I grew up playing?

01:22:16.000 And so, and I don't know if that's what his reasoning was, but like, I think that's what

01:22:19.640 it would be.

01:22:20.740 And so like, if that's what you want to do to like, to get along with your thoughts, I

01:22:24.200 like, I get that.

01:22:25.160 I'm not ready for that.

01:22:26.060 Like, I don't need that in my life right now, but Hey, maybe when I'm 35, like maybe that's

01:22:30.040 something you want to do.

01:22:31.520 So like, I'm not going to judge him for it.

01:22:32.740 It's wild.

01:22:33.260 And now I know about it.

01:22:34.200 And I'm like, well, I have that in my back pocket.

01:22:35.720 If I ever just want to disappear for four days.

01:22:38.100 And it's brave of him kind of in a way to do it because a lot of guys are afraid to, I think,

01:22:43.340 you know, I know he's friends with Aubrey Marcus and,

01:22:45.720 uh, they, Aubrey's big into like, uh, psychedelic medicines and like, um, just like templates

01:22:52.900 of therapy and stuff like that.

01:22:54.520 Right.

01:22:54.920 Huge into it.

01:22:55.720 Like just different types of therapy.

01:22:57.040 Oh, even all types of stuff.

01:22:58.440 Like, like muscle, like, like even like being under the influence of certain things and

01:23:04.040 then like doing certain things to your muscles to release like memories, like, and this is

01:23:08.600 like all, I'm paraphrasing, but Aubrey's like deep into that world.

01:23:12.140 Right.

01:23:12.440 I get that.

01:23:12.860 And I think a lot of guys would be, especially at Aaron's level of popularity, he's famous,

01:23:18.480 famous, right.

01:23:19.040 Would be embarrassed to not embarrassed, but would probably feel uncomfortable talking about

01:23:22.940 that.

01:23:23.160 Especially he brought me, he brought it up and he talked about it.

01:23:25.320 Like on the Pat McAfee show to the boys love them, but like they, uh, they just to bring

01:23:30.040 that up and like, and it's Aaron Rodgers, like everything that he says on into the media,

01:23:34.240 like everybody, it's all they got, everybody it's a clip.

01:23:37.020 Like any, if he says anything out of like out of line or kind of controversial, like

01:23:40.840 that's a headline on hundreds of newspapers or like online, online newspapers.

01:23:45.600 So it's just like for him to go out and say that.

01:23:47.520 And like, that was the only thing anyone talked about for the next three days.

01:23:49.620 Oh yeah.

01:23:50.180 It was crazy all over social media.

01:23:51.620 Like the meme pages, everyone making fun of him for, but like for him to go out there

01:23:54.440 and talk about it, like, I didn't even know that was a thing.

01:23:56.160 And I'm kind of, that's cool.

01:23:57.640 Like I just, again, not for me right now, but, but in the future, who knows, who knows?

01:24:01.600 Like I might want to do that someday.

01:24:03.000 Yeah.

01:24:03.760 Yeah.

01:24:04.040 They have all types of things like that.

01:24:05.280 Like there's like a camp you can go to where no one talks for like a week.

01:24:09.040 And then I think you can do like, but you still interact with people.

01:24:11.940 Yeah.

01:24:12.220 You still interact.

01:24:12.860 Then I think you do two weeks.

01:24:13.760 So it's like charades, I guess.

01:24:16.700 Whoa.

01:24:17.340 So like, if you know sign language, is that cheating?

01:24:21.060 Ooh, I don't know, but you'd have to bring someone that also knows it.

01:24:23.700 Otherwise you want to think you're into some fucking, you're like, just like in a bunch

01:24:30.500 of gangs.

01:24:32.500 Just throwing stuff.

01:24:33.700 That's funny, dude.

01:24:35.620 But, um, that's cool.

01:24:37.040 You want to go to one?

01:24:38.100 Dude, I would go.

01:24:39.060 I bet it would be something really cool to do probably with a friend or your wife or something

01:24:42.780 like, that'd be interesting.

01:24:43.820 Just to be interesting.

01:24:44.560 Like, Hey, let's just go have this weird experience.

01:24:46.540 It's going to be fun.

01:24:47.740 We're going to be around each other, but we can't talk for a whole week.

01:24:50.500 It's going to be really weird.

01:24:51.700 Yeah.

01:24:51.940 It'd be really, really weird.

01:24:53.000 You know, I don't know.

01:24:54.240 I don't know if my wife would like that too much.

01:24:56.040 Um, but I think like I would bring like one of my buddies on that.

01:25:00.060 Like, just, I think I would try to make him talk and try to make him laugh.

01:25:03.820 Yeah.

01:25:04.060 That would be you.

01:25:04.820 Yeah.

01:25:05.040 But you can't be that weirdo.

01:25:06.020 He's fucking tickling some dude in the distance all the time.

01:25:08.640 I mean, you can, if you want, man, that's your call.

01:25:11.220 It's on you, man.

01:25:12.340 People are just staying away from you the whole time.

01:25:14.580 You're just the guy that kind of got to try to get people to squeal.

01:25:17.920 Oh God.

01:25:19.200 Like who's this fucking silence anarchist over here.

01:25:23.200 But Aaron Rodgers is also interesting.

01:25:25.080 He's not married.

01:25:26.160 No.

01:25:26.860 So it's kind of, how old is Aaron Rodgers?

01:25:29.560 I'm going to guess 36.

01:25:30.640 Okay.

01:25:31.180 So he's getting to be at a point in his life.

01:25:32.900 It kind of seemed like he's just, he seemed like he's definitely kind of a searcher kind

01:25:37.260 of dude, you know?

01:25:38.600 Yeah.

01:25:38.780 I think, I think like 39.

01:25:41.840 Yeah.

01:25:42.060 He's 39 years old.

01:25:43.080 I will like, I think at his point in his, I mean, again, like I have no idea, but like

01:25:48.140 at some point football is not the only thing in my life, right?

01:25:50.920 Like I'm not just a football player.

01:25:52.400 Like there's more sides to me than that.

01:25:53.660 And I think he's been playing football since he was probably five, seven years old for the

01:25:58.320 last 30 years.

01:25:59.120 I bet you he wants to find out like who else, like what other parts of me, like what else

01:26:03.420 do I love as much as football?

01:26:05.060 It's a good point, man.

01:26:06.160 I think that that's, I think that probably happens for a lot of guys who get stuck into

01:26:13.160 one or who start so young in something, because then you're like, at some point you're like,

01:26:19.900 as a, did I get put into this?

01:26:22.540 Did I really, obviously I've loved this at certain points and it's been a great big part

01:26:26.580 of my life.

01:26:27.040 Like, but are there other things?

01:26:28.580 Yeah.

01:26:28.700 That I want to do that.

01:26:29.620 I don't even, I'm so been so stuck in this vein that I don't even know what they are.

01:26:35.820 Yeah.

01:26:36.100 Like you just, you missed it.

01:26:37.200 You missed that window.

01:26:38.020 And like, granted, like, I don't know if he would, like, I wouldn't trade my opportunity.

01:26:40.800 Like I love playing football.

01:26:41.760 Like who knows?

01:26:42.600 Like there could be something else that like, I might've loved to do it.

01:26:44.800 If I just would have given it a shot.

01:26:45.740 Like maybe I love lacrosse.

01:26:47.100 Maybe if I like, uh, yeah.

01:26:48.780 I mean like, what if I did that or like, what if I wanted to be the Brittany Griner of fucking

01:26:52.420 lacrosse?

01:26:52.920 I think dude, you'd have been a fucking gangster.

01:26:55.660 That's a fucking compliment.

01:26:56.640 I appreciate that.

01:26:57.200 Oh dude, you would have been insane in lacrosse.

01:26:59.600 Yeah.

01:26:59.940 I saw, but it wasn't offered where I lived.

01:27:01.400 And so like, who knows?

01:27:02.520 Like I could have enjoyed that.

01:27:04.040 Like, I don't know.

01:27:04.620 So like, maybe he's like, at some point you want to figure out what else, what else you

01:27:07.940 love.

01:27:08.220 So, you know, I think that a lot about like some of my friends that are athletes that

01:27:11.480 are black guys, actually, sometimes I think, cause a lot of young black men, they didn't

01:27:15.300 have any other opportunities except for athletics.

01:27:18.280 That's it.

01:27:18.780 So I start to wonder sometimes like if that's even a bigger thing in their sometimes community

01:27:24.160 or that you'll start to see like, because they didn't have any other choice or there

01:27:28.760 weren't as many options to get.

01:27:30.380 I mean, not as many outlets.

01:27:31.700 Right.

01:27:31.840 Not as many outlets.

01:27:32.820 Like, I mean, and less opportunities too.

01:27:34.660 Yeah.

01:27:34.680 So it's like, damn, I wonder how many of those guys start to feel like, man, is this

01:27:39.800 something that I even wanted to even not wanted to do?

01:27:43.680 Was it more like, do I love the game or is it like more of my only choice I had?

01:27:47.160 That was my, like, that's what I had to do.

01:27:48.840 It's kind of interesting.

01:27:49.740 It is interesting.

01:27:50.440 And I think, I think, well, one, like football is really hard if you don't love it.

01:27:54.880 Like it's really, cause like what you put your body through, what you put like the

01:27:57.700 stress levels through, like we put our, like, I know every, like our professions, like

01:28:02.180 when you're out there, you know, for like to perform and like, that's

01:28:04.600 how like people watch you and stuff like that.

01:28:06.440 It's like, there's a stress that comes out because you could make one bad play.

01:28:10.100 And like, that's the only thing everybody on Twitter is yelling at you for and

01:28:13.100 telling you that you're a piece of shit.

01:28:14.200 And so like, there's a, there's a mental stress to it.

01:28:16.260 There's a physical stress to it.

01:28:17.600 Time away from your family.

01:28:18.680 Like I just said, like I, I have my nationals, my home.

01:28:21.640 I haven't, this is my second day back since July 24th.

01:28:24.760 That's so wow.

01:28:26.040 Yeah.

01:28:26.220 So it's, it's crazy.

01:28:27.080 And I love it here.

01:28:27.940 Like I love Nashville.

01:28:28.880 I love being a part of this city.

01:28:30.080 Um, and I live in San Jose, California for seven months out of the year.

01:28:35.160 So it's just, it's wild because it's just, yeah, it's just, it blows me away.

01:28:39.720 Yeah.

01:28:40.060 You know, even, yeah.

01:28:41.280 I mean, I can relate to a lot of that.

01:28:42.920 I love being here and I feel like I kind of get to know it in increments because I'm always

01:28:47.120 going to be gone.

01:28:47.660 It's very hard for me to start a relationship with someone that I know I'm going to be able

01:28:51.620 to upkeep.

01:28:52.520 You know, it's like, um, I've already kind of written off that I might even be able

01:28:56.520 to, you know, I would like to have a spouse, you know?

01:28:59.860 And so it's like, I think maybe there's a possibility in the next year and a half I'll

01:29:05.460 meet somebody, but I know for the next year and a half, I'm probably going to be touring

01:29:08.300 a lot.

01:29:08.700 And so it's like, I haven't written it off, but it's like, I know it's going to limit my

01:29:12.480 chances.

01:29:13.040 For sure.

01:29:13.560 If I'm in the same place, being able to like, um, have a commitment that I'm there with all

01:29:17.940 the time, you know?

01:29:18.840 Yeah, no, I do get that.

01:29:19.760 And it's also, but like, you have to be kind of selfish because this is your window of

01:29:23.220 opportunity, right?

01:29:24.260 Like if it's, it's out there for you and like, you could say no, but like, will that opportunity

01:29:28.760 ever come again?

01:29:29.600 Yeah.

01:29:30.060 Right.

01:29:30.340 So like, might as well take advantage of it.

01:29:31.940 And like, you know, it's that you don't like, not everybody has to do that.

01:29:34.160 And like, it's, it's a life choice if you want to do that and you're making sacrifices,

01:29:37.000 but it's like, I mean, dude, like it's, if you like, if you enjoy doing it, go do it.

01:29:41.500 And like, you can pause for a year and a half.

01:29:43.380 Like you're still, like, you're still going to be here.

01:29:45.660 It's scary though, to do it.

01:29:46.540 It's weird.

01:29:46.920 So if I said George Kittle, won't you take a year and a half off, right?

01:29:50.720 Of football or off of like dating?

01:29:52.640 Oh no, that, no, that's what I was talking about dating, taking a year, year and a half

01:29:56.280 off of dating.

01:29:56.940 Like, oh, right, right.

01:29:57.560 I see what you're saying.

01:29:58.360 I thought you meant to take a year and a half off of doing comedy and stuff.

01:30:00.100 No, don't do that.

01:30:00.860 Don't do that.

01:30:01.380 Like I'm saying, take advantage of your opportunity, dog.

01:30:04.080 It's right there.

01:30:04.960 Go do it.

01:30:05.840 You're doing a great job.

01:30:06.640 So just keep doing it.

01:30:07.580 Oh, thanks, man.

01:30:08.260 Yeah, but it's interesting.

01:30:10.420 It's like, yeah, you have to look at that and kind of figure that out.

01:30:15.580 I have to pee real fast.

01:30:16.920 Go for it, dude.

01:30:17.340 All right.

01:30:17.860 I'll be right back.

01:30:19.200 What do you?

01:30:23.820 Celsius, I'm going to drink it.

01:30:25.360 What is it?

01:30:26.180 It's just, it's like has a little bit of caffeine in it.

01:30:29.540 So it's just called Celsius.

01:30:31.700 I like it.

01:30:33.020 My friend Dustin Poirier drinks it.

01:30:34.860 Oh, really?

01:30:35.540 That's how I learned about it.

01:30:36.880 Do you watch any UFC?

01:30:38.640 A little bit.

01:30:39.200 I'm involved with PFL, the Professional Fighters League.

01:30:43.160 Oh, really?

01:30:43.940 Yeah.

01:30:44.760 Got into that a little bit.

01:30:45.860 And they do what?

01:30:46.720 Fighting?

01:30:47.180 It's the same thing?

01:30:47.840 Yeah, it's the same thing.

01:30:48.400 It's like kind of a tournament style, though.

01:30:49.900 So like, it's like they have, so if you win the first round, you just move on the second

01:30:52.620 round.

01:30:52.840 That's how they, that's how they decide who wins the belt.

01:30:54.580 Oh, wow.

01:30:55.240 It's kind of cool.

01:30:55.820 It's on ESPN Plus, I think.

01:30:57.120 Yeah.

01:30:57.480 ESPN Plus.

01:30:58.060 That seems a lot more almost realistic in the, what the value of the belt is.

01:31:02.400 Yeah.

01:31:02.660 That's what, it's cool.

01:31:03.700 Like, and I'm not like, I'm not huge in the UFC stuff.

01:31:06.100 Like, I'll watch like the big fights.

01:31:07.420 Like, I enjoy watching that.

01:31:09.220 I don't follow it religiously like a lot of people do, but I, I mean, I have the utmost

01:31:14.260 respect for those people because it's insane.

01:31:16.200 Oh, it's crazy.

01:31:16.960 Cute.

01:31:17.160 Like they, like when they go into the ring, like when they flip the switch, there's no

01:31:22.280 like, there's no buffer.

01:31:23.960 It's like, I'm trying to kill this person.

01:31:25.640 Like in football, like it's, it's a little bit like you have that mindset to an extent,

01:31:29.940 but like they're actually in there until someone pulls them off of them.

01:31:33.020 It's crazy to me.

01:31:34.380 Yeah.

01:31:35.200 That's wild.

01:31:35.920 Yeah.

01:31:36.300 There's a, it's a different level of, um, of violence that you're willing to do.

01:31:41.280 Um, we have a friend, Drake, you know, Drake.

01:31:43.720 Hulick.

01:31:44.160 Yeah.

01:31:44.540 I just did his podcast.

01:31:45.760 You did?

01:31:46.300 Yeah.

01:31:46.480 Washed up walk-on.

01:31:47.260 Oh, it's so cool.

01:31:48.520 400th episode, man.

01:31:49.280 I was pretty impressed.

01:31:50.020 Oh, congratulations, dude.

01:31:51.100 I love Drake.

01:31:51.960 He's such great energy, dude.

01:31:53.260 Dude, he is, bro.

01:31:54.500 There's something of, yeah.

01:31:55.820 He's like, he reminds me of like, he reminds me of, uh, mankind a little bit.

01:32:00.100 For sure, dude.

01:32:00.940 He's a psycho.

01:32:01.620 So, well, so here's a fun Drake story.

01:32:04.180 Um, my senior day in college, he played fullback with me in Iowa.

01:32:07.160 That's how I know him.

01:32:07.840 Oh, that's how you guys know each other.

01:32:09.020 Yeah.

01:32:09.040 And so also then like I was number 46, he was number 45.

01:32:11.760 And so our lockers were next to each other for like three or four years.

01:32:14.340 That's how they do it by numbers.

01:32:15.620 And I, when they, and we got a new locker room, our old locker room, it was like, you

01:32:20.720 would go, uh, it was like one through 50.

01:32:24.160 And then like every other number was 51 through 99.

01:32:28.380 Okay.

01:32:28.640 And so like, it'd be one and then it'd be 51 to 52.

01:32:32.440 Oh, that'd probably be people.

01:32:33.300 Some people would quit because of that.

01:32:34.540 It's confusing.

01:32:35.140 It was weird.

01:32:35.780 Your lockers put like the new one.

01:32:37.300 It was literally like one started here and it just kind of went around.

01:32:39.940 And so, yeah.

01:32:41.220 So 45, 46, we were next year.

01:32:42.420 So we became friends.

01:32:43.260 And then, uh, this past, oh, sorry.

01:32:44.940 My senior day.

01:32:45.860 Uh, so my fifth year senior play in Nebraska and we beat the shit out of him.

01:32:49.660 Cause, uh, Oh, cause of Will Compton.

01:32:51.600 Oh no.

01:32:52.240 So he beat Iowa once.

01:32:53.320 He always talks about that or something like that.

01:32:54.760 I don't know.

01:32:55.140 He's always talking about something, dude.

01:32:56.380 He's, he always talks about something.

01:32:57.700 It is what it is.

01:32:58.300 But he looks like a premature baby on fucking pre-workout.

01:33:04.000 Oh, well, that's funny.

01:33:07.500 Well, he always looks a little premature.

01:33:09.120 Like his eyes don't open all the way or something.

01:33:11.860 You know what I'm saying, dude?

01:33:14.060 That's really funny, dude.

01:33:15.620 Wow.

01:33:15.880 Well, that's tough for you, dog.

01:33:17.040 You went to Nebraska and you look like that.

01:33:18.920 That's super tough.

01:33:19.700 Well, sorry, but Drake.

01:33:20.700 I wouldn't say, I mean, I didn't say any of that.

01:33:22.660 No, you didn't say.

01:33:23.480 No, what are you talking about?

01:33:24.420 I have no idea.

01:33:25.220 Who said that?

01:33:25.940 Yeah.

01:33:26.320 But sorry, but, uh.

01:33:27.220 But Drake, yeah.

01:33:27.920 My very first play, we're running an inside zone.

01:33:30.880 He's at fullback and I'm blocking somebody and I just hear a snap and I turn around and Drake's

01:33:37.880 leg is twisted.

01:33:39.260 He broke it himself?

01:33:40.220 No, he like, he, he hits, he hits somebody and then someone landed on it and just snapped

01:33:44.160 in half.

01:33:44.620 First play.

01:33:45.480 Because he's nuts.

01:33:46.520 Oh, he's a psycho and it's awesome.

01:33:48.260 But there's a cool, we have a cool photo where it's like, he's getting carted off and

01:33:51.040 he's basically like telling us all to beat the shit out of him.

01:33:53.320 It was pretty awesome.

01:33:54.040 Pull it up.

01:33:54.520 See if you can just fill up Drake.

01:33:55.880 Yeah.

01:33:56.160 Drake Kulik.

01:33:56.920 Yeah.

01:33:57.160 I don't know.

01:33:57.480 Drake Kulik or I, we're in it together.

01:33:59.780 It's a fun photo, but I was saying like, he spent this entire last off season.

01:34:02.880 He lived, he moved to Nashville to train with me.

01:34:04.900 So every day.

01:34:05.760 Oh, is that what he was doing?

01:34:06.280 Yeah.

01:34:06.400 Cause he invited me out a couple of times to your barn out there.

01:34:09.160 Oh yeah.

01:34:09.360 So he, he came out.

01:34:10.620 Yeah.

01:34:10.780 That's when he broke his leg.

01:34:11.980 Whoa.

01:34:12.520 Yeah.

01:34:12.740 It's super aggressive.

01:34:14.400 Um, I've never seen him without hair.

01:34:16.600 There's us three right down there in the middle.

01:34:18.280 Oh yeah.

01:34:18.560 Left.

01:34:19.260 Left.

01:34:19.840 Left.

01:34:20.160 Down.

01:34:20.400 Down.

01:34:21.200 Yeah.

01:34:21.380 That's me.

01:34:21.700 46.

01:34:22.080 Oh, wow.

01:34:24.740 Yeah.

01:34:24.900 I don't know.

01:34:25.320 There's one older there somehow.

01:34:27.460 Yeah.

01:34:27.840 Well, I don't.

01:34:28.960 And 52 dude, I could have been 52.

01:34:31.260 I'm just saying he, I'm just saying thick boy out of Iowa.

01:34:33.920 That's off the line right there.

01:34:34.880 Boom.

01:34:35.140 Oh yeah.

01:34:35.580 That's all fucking.

01:34:37.260 Yeah.

01:34:37.620 Well, that's, that was us hanging out.

01:34:39.500 I can't first.

01:34:40.240 Yeah.

01:34:40.360 Look at that boy.

01:34:41.400 But he, uh, yeah.

01:34:42.440 So he came down and he trained with me.

01:34:43.720 Uh, we did four days a week.

01:34:45.440 Um, he was fantastic.

01:34:46.920 And it was always true that he's such a, he's a great dude to have around too, because he's

01:34:50.740 very aware of his surroundings and also being around someone that knows like jujitsu and

01:34:54.960 how to fight.

01:34:55.880 It's really, I enjoy that having someone that he could just flip a switch at any moment.

01:34:59.300 Like if someone tried to fuck with me, he would a hundred percent have my back at any

01:35:02.440 moment.

01:35:02.800 I, I appreciate people like that.

01:35:04.640 And it could be a big dude too.

01:35:06.180 Like the, that value of knowing that skill and your friends with you, it will, but also

01:35:12.460 it changes the game of like, if it's a big dude versus a little dude, sure that

01:35:16.780 games changed, dude.

01:35:18.380 Yeah.

01:35:18.580 You're not wrong.

01:35:19.240 I will say like, it was fun.

01:35:20.280 We went to, uh, in Scottsdale for the super bowl.

01:35:22.800 Cause that's where he lives now.

01:35:24.480 Uh, I had tickets to, uh, the Drake concert up there.

01:35:27.780 And so I, we go to it and, uh, on our way out.

01:35:31.360 Cause it's, it's crazy.

01:35:33.040 Those concerts, they have, they tried to, they pack like 20,000 people into a place that

01:35:36.480 fits 5,000 and like, there's, it's just, it's, it's, it's crazy.

01:35:41.420 Um, but like, there's like TMZ and all this paparazzi outside waiting for people and like

01:35:47.380 two guys kind of put my camera in my face and he just kind of goes up and throws an elbow

01:35:51.180 into a rib cage.

01:35:52.040 And the dude just kind of drops, clears a path for me.

01:35:54.040 I get into a car and he's hopped right behind me.

01:35:55.960 I was like, you good.

01:35:56.420 He was like, what are you talking about?

01:35:57.900 Not three under the bus, Drake, but that was awesome.

01:36:00.000 It was so sick.

01:36:00.700 So don't get sued, please.

01:36:01.640 Um, no, he would help me at when I would go to, uh, the national MMA, he would help me

01:36:07.060 all the time.

01:36:07.560 And just like, always like just a good teacher, but yeah, he has a great energy, man.

01:36:11.600 And he's still fighting.

01:36:12.800 He's yeah.

01:36:13.440 He's training like full time.

01:36:14.960 Yeah.

01:36:15.100 He sends me clips all the time.

01:36:16.280 I love it.

01:36:16.780 And no, like what's awesome.

01:36:18.200 Like he, his, so like, yeah, I keep talking about like the switch that you have to flip

01:36:22.100 his switch, like his football switch is still flipped on.

01:36:25.060 And it's just kind of always, so he just kind of has this, like this anger and like this

01:36:28.900 violence of energy.

01:36:29.940 And I like, I really, cause not everybody's, there's not a lot of people like that.

01:36:33.260 And so being around someone that has that kind of that energy to them, that's just violence.

01:36:37.820 I really appreciate that.

01:36:38.840 And he's a great dude.

01:36:39.480 He's super kind and he's wonderful.

01:36:40.760 But like, like there's not a lot of people that are triggered like that or like wired

01:36:44.280 like that.

01:36:44.720 And I like those people.

01:36:46.080 Yeah.

01:36:46.340 Do you?

01:36:46.840 I do.

01:36:47.340 You like the violence.

01:36:48.520 I like people that are just, I like people that are wired differently.

01:36:50.940 Just high energy.

01:36:52.320 Not even high energy, but he's just like controlled anger and he's just kind of like ready to

01:36:57.620 go at any moment.

01:36:58.900 And I appreciate people like that.

01:37:00.140 Cause it's hard to be like that all the time.

01:37:01.520 It wears on you.

01:37:02.600 Oh, I could imagine.

01:37:03.560 It's hard to just fucking have all the fire inside of you, but it's just like burning it

01:37:07.740 all the time.

01:37:08.520 Right.

01:37:08.860 But people don't want any fire outside.

01:37:10.860 So you got to fucking just walk around like a furnace.

01:37:13.200 I know.

01:37:13.500 And so like you either have to put it out or keep it super low, but like his is like

01:37:16.540 at a medium anger all the time.

01:37:19.020 And I really, I like that.

01:37:20.400 That's interesting.

01:37:20.940 That's a great way to describe him.

01:37:22.180 Yeah.

01:37:22.540 He's a special dude, man.

01:37:24.820 What else was I going to ask you about?

01:37:26.300 Oh, what was it like when you were a kid?

01:37:27.740 Did you like have any, did you have like crazy Halloween costumes and stuff?

01:37:30.640 Like, did you dress up like a fucking?

01:37:33.060 Yeah.

01:37:33.840 What'd you do?

01:37:34.600 Um, so it was fun fact.

01:37:35.860 My, so I said, my mom had nine sisters.

01:37:38.000 She's one of 10 girls.

01:37:38.820 Her dad was Halloween was his birthday.

01:37:40.880 And so, and it was like the dad that had nine kids, 10, 10 daughters, 10 daughters.

01:37:45.980 So basically, yeah.

01:37:46.760 So obviously his nuts were haunted.

01:37:48.880 I'm guessing, dude.

01:37:49.880 That's really funny.

01:37:51.200 That's really funny.

01:37:53.240 That's a good one.

01:37:53.920 I'm going to tell my mom that one.

01:37:54.920 I don't know if that's a good one.

01:37:55.900 And I don't know if you say anything to your mom.

01:37:57.120 No, that's really funny.

01:37:58.440 That's awesome.

01:37:59.380 But that's crazy.

01:38:01.160 And we had like, I would say like, let's just say like six of the, six of the daughters

01:38:04.900 all lived like within an hour or so.

01:38:06.640 So, and they all had kids.

01:38:07.700 And so like, we'd have Halloween parties and like, we'd have like 30 to 40 people show up

01:38:12.180 for Halloween and like 25 of us are kids.

01:38:14.120 And so we would just basically go through these small Iowa towns with like all these,

01:38:17.580 like just 25 deep.

01:38:19.080 And it was really fun.

01:38:20.040 But Batman was a good, that was one of my top characters to be.

01:38:23.240 I really liked the Grim Reaper.

01:38:24.500 Or like I had the, like the nylon mask you'd pull on your face and I just walk out with

01:38:28.520 a scythe, wouldn't say anything.

01:38:30.200 I was kind of creepy.

01:38:31.480 I really enjoyed that one.

01:38:33.000 The Grim Reaper.

01:38:34.140 Yeah.

01:38:34.280 He didn't get, people don't dress up like the Grim Reaper very often.

01:38:37.320 No, not, not anymore.

01:38:38.820 No.

01:38:39.480 I wouldn't know.

01:38:40.060 I don't think I've ever seen anybody be the Grim Reaper.

01:38:42.600 That was like my number one costume from like five to nine, probably.

01:38:47.040 Wow.

01:38:47.500 Love the Grim Reaper.

01:38:48.120 Really?

01:38:48.700 Until I grew out of it.

01:38:49.580 Maybe, maybe like, like four to seven, but like.

01:38:51.780 But that's just interesting.

01:38:52.580 I don't know any, I've never heard anybody say there.

01:38:54.500 You're the Grim Reaper.

01:38:55.620 Dude, you just had a, you had like a skull for a face.

01:38:58.080 You wore a cool robe and you just got to carry a big scythe.

01:39:00.760 Yeah.

01:39:01.100 Now I'd hit my cousins with it all the time.

01:39:02.420 Oh yeah, fuck.

01:39:02.960 Why would you not?

01:39:04.000 When you have that many fucking cousins, you can, if you lose a few, you lose a few.

01:39:09.140 You know what I'm saying?

01:39:09.620 Yeah, if someone falls behind, they fall, they fall behind.

01:39:12.020 The pack's still deep, man.

01:39:12.980 Yeah, dude, that's crazy.

01:39:13.980 It's a wolf pack, man.

01:39:15.140 You got to survive.

01:39:15.940 That's wild, bro.

01:39:17.340 That's awesome, dude.

01:39:18.280 What was your costume?

01:39:19.520 My costume?

01:39:20.200 Let me think.

01:39:20.860 Oh, we got a, but my dad was like a senior citizen.

01:39:23.160 So he would always pick us up shit at the last minute.

01:39:26.900 So we had, me and my brother were both Raggedy Ann one year.

01:39:31.500 That's awesome.

01:39:32.680 Oh, it was horrible, dude.

01:39:34.020 And we're so pissed.

01:39:35.180 We're in the fucking yard.

01:39:36.100 Just two Raggedy Ann's beating the shit out of each other.

01:39:40.800 That's awesome.

01:39:41.280 Two young male children dressed in fucking drag, dressed in Halloween drag, beating the shit

01:39:47.220 out of each other.

01:39:48.340 Just fighting?

01:39:49.660 It was always a nightmare, dude.

01:39:51.380 Yeah, we'd.

01:39:52.020 That's awesome.

01:39:53.140 Yeah, happy Halloween.

01:39:54.620 Oh, my mom would have to work.

01:39:55.980 So my day was, he was in charge of getting us ready for Halloween and stuff like that.

01:39:59.700 And it was just fucking horrible.

01:40:01.320 One time we wanted face paint.

01:40:02.860 We wanted like white face paint and to do, to do like skeletons or whatever, you know,

01:40:09.940 be skeletons.

01:40:11.300 And my dad forgot it or whatever.

01:40:13.200 And so I remember he poured us like a little bowl of like, I want to say, no, it was like,

01:40:20.580 he poured us like a little bowl of, of like half and half cream or whatever.

01:40:26.300 So I remember me and my brother, like trying to get this shit.

01:40:31.840 And he's like, no, you're not using enough.

01:40:33.420 And I remember fucking just like, then I remember we go outside and like all the neighborhood

01:40:39.300 cats are fucking coming over.

01:40:41.140 Like just, just everything was just so retarded.

01:40:45.000 It was just so ridiculous.

01:40:46.680 Oh, dude.

01:40:47.580 So it was like, it was always like this weird Halloween.

01:40:50.440 Um, and then Halloween's a crazy concept anyways.

01:40:54.880 It is kind of crazy.

01:40:56.240 It's good though.

01:40:57.160 I love it.

01:40:57.800 Yeah.

01:40:58.080 Like be weird.

01:40:59.580 Oh, Halloween was a, yeah.

01:41:00.880 Halloween was good.

01:41:02.220 Um, what else?

01:41:03.960 Oh, what about, uh, what about like, so with that big of a family, did you guys do like

01:41:11.120 big family events and stuff?

01:41:12.820 Did it get pretty crazy?

01:41:14.040 Every year it was literally up until, um, what was that?

01:41:17.660 Like summer, summer 2019, I think it was, we did, uh, we had the Crager family reunion.

01:41:23.100 My mom's maiden name is Crager K R I E G E R.

01:41:26.040 And so they, uh, we'd have a family reunion and we used to have it like in Iowa at like

01:41:30.280 this kind of, not, it was like, I can't remember what it was called, but it was like this small

01:41:35.360 town and it's like out in the woods was like this, um, just like big building that it was

01:41:40.380 like a little hotel, I guess, but they, they had like 80 rooms.

01:41:43.360 And so like each family would get a room and we literally, we'd like, I think we had

01:41:47.420 almost the entire family there.

01:41:48.560 Like we had like a hundred and like 12 people there one time and like, we do wiffle ball

01:41:52.560 tournaments and then like kind of, and I usually did when I was a kid, like, but you'd have,

01:41:56.760 I mean, I'd say like 80 of the people, 80 out of the 120, 80 out of the 110 would play.

01:42:00.780 And you'd have these huge wiffle ball tournaments.

01:42:02.400 We do kickball, a lot of card games, but like that was the most fun.

01:42:06.080 Cause I went to those when I was like between the ages of like seven and 14.

01:42:09.720 Oh yeah.

01:42:10.440 I'll do.

01:42:10.760 So I was just out there having the time of my life, playing in the woods, getting food.

01:42:14.340 And then you just get to hang out with all your best friends all the time.

01:42:16.160 And like, I was close to my cousins too.

01:42:17.400 Cause like I said, we all lived in Iowa.

01:42:18.800 So we were all like, I've lived with some of my cousins before, like throughout my life.

01:42:22.100 So it's like, we were all really good friends.

01:42:24.340 And so like those family reunions were really fun.

01:42:26.400 Dude, that's such a, that's so amazing.

01:42:28.900 Who gets to have an experience like that?

01:42:30.800 Not very many people.

01:42:31.760 That many family members?

01:42:33.740 That close too.

01:42:34.620 And like people would like, we had family that lived in Indiana, family that lived in Colorado

01:42:37.520 and everybody would always come back from it.

01:42:39.180 But like literally, yeah, I'd say like from age like nine to probably 16, like we had

01:42:44.100 like a seven year window there where like over a hundred people would show up every time.

01:42:47.820 Wow.

01:42:48.180 It was pretty cool.

01:42:48.940 Dude, that's awesome, man.

01:42:50.240 It was really fun.

01:42:52.580 Yeah.

01:42:52.920 That's just so cool.

01:42:54.540 That's one thing that's neat.

01:42:55.480 I think about a lot of, a lot of the Midwest, there were some big families, you know, especially

01:43:00.060 like a lot of church families.

01:43:01.180 You'd see a lot of church families and they'd roll up, they'd always had that church van, you

01:43:04.680 know, when they got down.

01:43:05.580 One of my cousins has one of those.

01:43:06.720 Cause he is like, I think they have, what do they have?

01:43:08.700 I want to say like 12, 13 kids now.

01:43:10.580 Yeah.

01:43:11.120 They roll up with the, with the white van.

01:43:12.820 It has windows.

01:43:13.820 So thank goodness.

01:43:14.540 Oh yeah.

01:43:14.860 Thank God, dude.

01:43:16.220 Bro.

01:43:16.420 If your family rolls up.

01:43:19.100 No windows door opens.

01:43:20.460 20 kids get out.

01:43:22.340 That's a kidnapper.

01:43:24.780 So thankfully they got windows on their car.

01:43:26.880 Yeah.

01:43:27.040 No women get out, bro.

01:43:28.540 That's yeah.

01:43:29.680 That is definitely.

01:43:31.180 Well, it was just like, oh my gosh, they have so many kids and it's like, Hey, I love

01:43:35.560 that.

01:43:35.740 And like, they're, they're a fantastic family.

01:43:37.540 It's fun, but it's just like, that's a lot of, that's a lot of people.

01:43:40.400 That's a lot.

01:43:41.080 Do you guys, will you think you guys have a big family?

01:43:43.300 Do you have thoughts about that or not?

01:43:44.480 Yeah.

01:43:44.680 I mean, I'd say like, uh, my wife has one brother.

01:43:48.200 I have one sister, but like we both want to have, I would like three to four kids.

01:43:51.740 That's good.

01:43:52.460 Yeah.

01:43:52.620 That's why I, that's, that'd be a dream.

01:43:54.540 Yeah.

01:43:55.240 It'd be really fun.

01:43:55.940 Yeah.

01:43:56.080 I think it'd be nice.

01:43:56.740 Especially if you can, I think these days, especially too, if you can afford to have them, that's probably

01:44:00.960 a big part of it.

01:44:02.080 Um, and then you're like my wife, she's six foot tall and she, she played basketball at

01:44:07.560 Iowa.

01:44:07.780 So she's an athlete.

01:44:08.440 So like, I think my kids will be good for college.

01:44:10.640 I actually, I know they will be their ball.

01:44:12.100 They're going to be ballers.

01:44:13.000 Dude, your kids could go to, yeah.

01:44:14.660 So like year two, but for sure, like NIL deal year two, I mean, two years old, two years

01:44:20.740 old.

01:44:21.100 They got a Charmin deal age two.

01:44:25.360 That'd be awesome.

01:44:26.780 Yeah.

01:44:26.900 But yeah, no, I, I would prefer a bigger family.

01:44:29.000 Cause this was what I was thinking about this too.

01:44:30.600 Cause like I said, so she's in a family of four, I'm in a family of four.

01:44:34.100 If me and her have four kids and we're a family of six, neither one of us has ever interact.

01:44:37.880 Like we've had friends that have families like that, but like, I've never been responsible

01:44:40.680 in a family of four kids.

01:44:42.420 And so like, that'll be a whole new interaction for me.

01:44:44.260 Like I've never been like, I've never, I never had a brother.

01:44:47.220 So like, I know like I had cousins that are brothers.

01:44:49.240 I have friends that are like brothers to me, but like, I never had an actual brother.

01:44:52.040 So like, if I have two sons or can you imagine three sons, like what that was interaction

01:44:56.480 to be like, I've never experienced that before.

01:44:58.060 So like, it'll be a completely new experience for me too, which is, I think that's really

01:45:01.480 cool.

01:45:02.760 Yeah, dude, that'd be, Oh, I think the family dynamics totally different than what I was

01:45:06.600 used to.

01:45:07.220 Oh yeah.

01:45:07.500 To see what that's like.

01:45:08.540 Yeah.

01:45:08.760 Like, I think that's just going to be really interesting.

01:45:10.560 Yeah.

01:45:11.220 Yeah.

01:45:11.500 Having a brother is pretty cool, man.

01:45:13.020 I know.

01:45:13.320 Right.

01:45:13.480 Like, yeah, I'm so thankful.

01:45:15.180 I had a sister.

01:45:15.660 Like she, like she's taught, she taught me a bunch.

01:45:18.940 Um, I definitely like, I didn't fight my sister.

01:45:21.420 She beat the shit out of me sometimes.

01:45:22.700 That was about it.

01:45:23.360 But like, I didn't really have an opportunity to fight her because she was, she was like

01:45:25.900 five, 10 at the age of 10 and just whooped up on me.

01:45:28.460 Wow.

01:45:28.620 Was she?

01:45:29.180 Dude.

01:45:29.500 She was a, like, she was a stallion back in the day.

01:45:32.020 Like, like when she played high school basketball, like she could fight me and beat me up pretty

01:45:35.980 easily.

01:45:36.580 Damn.

01:45:36.940 So like, I was like, yeah, what do you need to see some of that footage?

01:45:39.160 I think if she did an only fans as just that you want to see my, my 17 year old

01:45:43.720 sister's highlights.

01:45:45.080 I'd watch a 17 year old girl beat up George Kittle.

01:45:48.080 Yeah.

01:45:48.260 For $9 a month.

01:45:49.540 Yeah.

01:45:49.760 Young George Kittle.

01:45:50.880 Yeah.

01:45:51.200 Sure.

01:45:51.420 You know what?

01:45:51.740 Honestly, it's not that weird when you say it like that.

01:45:53.780 Yeah.

01:45:53.980 Young George Kittle.

01:45:54.720 I'm not saying like, and I don't need re-enactments or any lingerie.

01:45:59.020 I'm just saying.

01:45:59.900 I'll send you a video of my sister's beating the shit out of me in a couple of weeks.

01:46:02.600 Next time I see her.

01:46:04.400 Um, when you look at, uh, when you, how long does it take you to forget about the season

01:46:09.680 and start to think about the next one?

01:46:11.040 How long does that kind of pain take?

01:46:12.520 I can only imagine, especially if you're a very competitive person and you have such

01:46:17.020 a great, uh, team.

01:46:20.100 What is the, um, how long does that take?

01:46:22.320 How long does that take?

01:46:23.740 Um, honestly, it's like kind of like waves, dude, in the ocean.

01:46:27.520 Like when, right afterwards, like it hits you a lot and then like the farther away you

01:46:33.720 get from it, the waves don't hit as often.

01:46:35.840 And so you just kind of like, it kind of goes away, but like, it's still like I lost

01:46:40.100 the Superbowl.

01:46:40.600 It still sucks.

01:46:41.380 Like, I don't like, it sucks.

01:46:43.660 Like, I wish I would have won it.

01:46:44.680 It would have been really fun.

01:46:45.340 Like that's a dream.

01:46:46.340 Like I said, and when you get close, we've lost two NFC championships games back to back.

01:46:50.320 Like it sucks.

01:46:51.160 But like, the great thing is, is I made it out.

01:46:54.080 I just try to take it as positive as I can.

01:46:55.840 I made it out healthy.

01:46:57.560 Um, I can train right away again.

01:47:00.040 We still have a very talented team.

01:47:02.060 And so like, yes, it sucked, but Hey, I'm still very confident that we have, like, we have

01:47:06.300 an opportunity to win a Superbowl.

01:47:07.240 So yeah, it really, it sucks, but like you get on with it.

01:47:10.240 And like, there are other parts of your life that, you know, like kind of pick you up.

01:47:13.780 Right.

01:47:14.060 And like, I have a great support system, whether it's my family or my wife, like I have a great

01:47:17.060 support system.

01:47:17.600 I have great friends.

01:47:18.540 I have a lot of friends who like deal with the same stuff.

01:47:21.000 And so it's just like, I have a lot of football friends who like, so like, it's not a support

01:47:24.740 group, but it's just like, you have people that go through similar stuff.

01:47:27.020 So like, you're not alone in it.

01:47:28.060 That's the one benefit of football.

01:47:29.040 Like at the end of the year, there's only one team that wins.

01:47:31.600 So 31 other teams are all dealing with some of the same shit.

01:47:33.840 Yes.

01:47:33.960 You can call almost anybody.

01:47:35.480 Literally.

01:47:35.820 It's really hard to win a Superbowl.

01:47:37.100 So like, yeah, if you want to talk about it or stuff like that now, I don't think you

01:47:39.880 really need to talk about it.

01:47:40.680 It's just kind of like, you just got to get, you get, it just takes a couple of weeks

01:47:43.700 really like, like the first two to three weeks afterwards really suck.

01:47:47.320 But like now that I'm back in Nashville and like, I'm, like I said, I'm healthy and I

01:47:50.040 can train.

01:47:50.720 It goes away pretty quick after that.

01:47:52.400 But like the perspective probably starts to switch to the future a little bit.

01:47:54.840 And also, but like, if, and like, so my first two years, our team wasn't very good.

01:47:58.480 And so like my, I didn't go to the playoffs.

01:48:00.240 So like when your season ends in like December, it's, you're kind of like, all right, well,

01:48:05.420 yeah, it kind of, we sucked this whole year, but like, you're also like, when you know

01:48:08.180 you're not in the playoffs, it's you're, you're, you're like, you're playing for yourself

01:48:13.280 and you've got to put yourself out there.

01:48:14.540 And like, you want to, like, you got to put good stuff on tape.

01:48:17.460 Like you can't just give up, but like, there are, there's a, the energy changes, the energy

01:48:21.980 changes.

01:48:22.500 And it's, it's harder to get, you know, like eating during the middle of the game and

01:48:25.380 shit.

01:48:25.520 No, not like that.

01:48:26.140 But no, I'm just like, just week to week.

01:48:27.660 Like, even like, so like, if you're like an O and nine team, like my rookie year, we

01:48:30.480 started O and nine.

01:48:31.440 Oh yeah.

01:48:31.980 Not very fun, but like, and I was just, and I was learning, right?

01:48:34.900 Not even a team.

01:48:35.660 What are you even doing?

01:48:36.800 It was brutal, man.

01:48:39.040 It was really fun though, but it was brutal.

01:48:40.800 We had like 25 rookies on the active roster.

01:48:43.040 It was dialed, it was wild, but it was really fun.

01:48:45.880 But like, once the season ends, cause like you kind of like, all right, we're not going

01:48:49.400 to make the playoffs.

01:48:50.060 So like three weeks before, like your wife or like you're like, you're planning a vacation.

01:48:54.140 So you're like, then you have something else to look forward to.

01:48:55.760 It's just, it's different than, than went and going in the playoffs and like, Hey, we

01:48:59.700 have like, Hey, I have an opportunity.

01:49:00.940 Like we went through the whole season.

01:49:02.340 We're one of the what?

01:49:04.040 Seven teams that make the playoffs on my side of the conference.

01:49:06.520 Like we have a shot to win and then it gets taken out from me.

01:49:09.140 And then you're like, damn.

01:49:10.620 Um, but like, if you know, you're not going to be like, it's, it's just, it's two different

01:49:13.780 things.

01:49:14.160 And I've experienced both.

01:49:15.180 And I think it's eat, like, I'd rather win a bunch of games and then lose a heartbreaker.

01:49:19.720 Honestly, like winning 12 to 13 games is a lot more fun than losing 10 straight.

01:49:24.640 Oh yeah.

01:49:25.340 Yeah.

01:49:25.540 So like, I'd rather do that.

01:49:26.840 Like, and yes, but does it suck to lose at the end?

01:49:29.640 For sure.

01:49:30.200 It sucks a lot, but Hey, it's life.

01:49:32.740 It is what it is.

01:49:33.540 I'm just going to continue to grind and continue to be a good football player.

01:49:36.220 Did you think when, when Brock Purdy came in, um, what it would be like, and there's a

01:49:40.860 bee in here or something, not bee, it's just a safe animal.

01:49:44.060 But do you think it's just swirling?

01:49:46.260 Oh yeah.

01:49:46.800 It's probably if I hit it, will PETA get mad at me?

01:49:49.440 Uh, I don't think so.

01:49:50.600 I don't even know who that is.

01:49:52.580 You know what?

01:49:53.420 That honestly doesn't surprise me.

01:49:54.780 Yeah.

01:49:55.340 It just, um, I'm so distracted by this.

01:49:58.140 Oh, you got it.

01:49:59.080 Huh?

01:49:59.980 I'm going to put that outside.

01:50:01.340 Okay.

01:50:01.880 I was lefty too, man.

01:50:03.380 It's not bad.

01:50:04.000 Somebody said Travis Kelsey can do that with a falcon.

01:50:08.700 Just saying.

01:50:09.400 That's just what I've heard.

01:50:12.220 Did you see the clip on Instagram of the dude that hunts with a falcon, bro?

01:50:18.220 I've been falcon hunting before.

01:50:19.380 Like you, and you see, you see something, you just go, wow.

01:50:22.000 And it's like a superpower dude.

01:50:23.380 Oh, I haven't seen, I don't know if I've seen that.

01:50:24.960 Yeah, dude.

01:50:25.260 These guys are driving with like a, a hawk or a falcon and they're in a car.

01:50:28.960 They stop it.

01:50:30.020 We're like, I think it might've been an ATV and like, they get off and they see something

01:50:33.620 and they, guy like starts running through the snow and they think there's a fox like

01:50:36.740 a hundred yards away and he literally throws a falcon and it's like perched on his arm

01:50:40.440 ready to jump out.

01:50:41.400 Like it's like a swimmer diving out and he just, and you just see him like coast along

01:50:46.440 this like snow bank and just claws, pick it up and it brings it right back.

01:50:50.580 Wow.

01:50:51.440 Nuts.

01:50:52.280 I saw, I've, I've seen that clip a ton of times.

01:50:53.880 That thing's crazy.

01:50:55.540 I've never seen that.

01:50:56.380 I don't think.

01:50:56.960 I'll send it to you.

01:50:57.700 Yeah, please do, man.

01:50:58.580 That'd be nice to have.

01:50:59.900 But yeah, those, those clips are, have you, do you fall like nature is metal?

01:51:02.760 Oh yeah, dude.

01:51:03.900 Oh my God.

01:51:04.600 It's so fucking crazy.

01:51:05.800 It's so crazy though.

01:51:07.020 It's crazy.

01:51:07.280 You're having like a nice evening, you know, you're out fucking to a nice dinner.

01:51:11.160 You pick at the phone and it's a raccoon just eating its young and you're like, whoa.

01:51:17.140 Say, hey George, what's wrong?

01:51:18.420 I just saw, nevermind.

01:51:20.600 Phone down.

01:51:21.720 Oh my goodness.

01:51:25.040 Dude, like that, that page, like one of the, one of the craziest things I ever saw on that

01:51:28.260 page was, have you ever seen like the moose run through snow?

01:51:31.120 Have you ever, dude, so like.

01:51:32.980 Bring it up.

01:51:33.440 Yeah, dude, look at a moose.

01:51:35.060 Jesus, these guys.

01:51:36.080 Dude, I was looking, moose are massive animals.

01:51:38.940 Oh yeah, they're very large.

01:51:40.140 And like, there's a clip of this thing running like 30 miles an hour just through six feet

01:51:43.960 of snow.

01:51:44.480 Oh my God.

01:51:45.460 It's.

01:51:46.580 Oh, I'll relapse if I watch this too much.

01:51:48.640 Oh, dude.

01:51:50.860 These things are crazy.

01:51:53.360 I don't know, this isn't the one I've seen, but like.

01:51:54.580 And look, there's a white guy eating a sandwich.

01:51:56.340 Oh yeah, here it comes.

01:51:57.060 Look at this.

01:51:57.600 Leave it here.

01:51:58.080 Oh, he's always, oh, he's about to go.

01:52:02.880 Yeah.

01:52:03.160 I think he just runs right past him here in a sec.

01:52:05.220 Nuh-uh.

01:52:08.940 Try that.

01:52:11.280 Oh, we picked the worst video where it's just a guy.

01:52:13.120 It's just two guys eating a sandwich watching a moose.

01:52:15.020 Oh no.

01:52:15.160 Here he comes.

01:52:15.820 No.

01:52:16.120 See, this isn't the clip.

01:52:16.920 I think I saw.

01:52:17.680 That's a horse also.

01:52:19.640 Oh, there it goes.

01:52:20.860 Oh my God.

01:52:22.420 Like, what is that?

01:52:23.420 That's a Dodge Ram.

01:52:24.540 Can you imagine if he just like chested, like if you just got chested by the dude?

01:52:29.340 You think he could take it on?

01:52:30.600 No.

01:52:31.260 Really?

01:52:31.480 I'd cut him.

01:52:32.100 I'd go right for his knees.

01:52:33.520 Oh damn, come on.

01:52:34.400 Go right for the thing's knees and it's probably going to, it's going to knock my wind out,

01:52:37.560 give me a concussion.

01:52:38.580 But I ain't going out like that, man.

01:52:40.920 Holy cow.

01:52:41.540 Come on, what is it, dude?

01:52:42.400 Dude, I'm taking it from the side.

01:52:44.060 Like if I was a safety and that's the tight end crowd across the middle field, I'm going

01:52:47.120 to take a creative angle and try to hit its back two legs right at the ankles

01:52:50.020 and take it out, spin it out.

01:52:51.780 That's what I would do.

01:52:52.520 Oh God.

01:52:53.220 You can't take that thing on full.

01:52:54.260 That's like tackling Derrick Henry.

01:52:56.080 Remember that you've seen people like stiff front, like, you know, there are just highlights

01:52:58.860 of him slapping them to the ground.

01:53:00.380 That's what that would be like.

01:53:01.500 That's you trying to tackle Derrick Henry.

01:53:03.060 I would do some other way to get him, you know?

01:53:04.860 Now, what if you put lice in your field in the grass that got in his hair at halftime,

01:53:08.900 he's itching too much.

01:53:09.760 You can't hold on to the ball.

01:53:10.880 Wouldn't that happen to you too though?

01:53:12.740 True, but you'd risk it.

01:53:14.260 I know, but even maybe as a defensive player, I get that.

01:53:17.200 Oh, I'd be so.

01:53:18.480 You just got to think of a new strategy.

01:53:20.060 Who wants to go tackle Derrick Henry?

01:53:21.420 Oh, no one.

01:53:22.900 That sounds off.

01:53:23.480 You got to hit him before he gets the ball.

01:53:25.340 Yeah, I know.

01:53:26.540 He gets three steps going.

01:53:27.680 He's three steps in.

01:53:28.580 He's full speed.

01:53:29.160 And then it's, it's a 200.

01:53:30.720 He's bigger than I am.

01:53:31.820 And he plays running back.

01:53:32.820 Wow.

01:53:33.180 Really?

01:53:33.660 So that's another thing that blows me away.

01:53:35.020 Like you've seen that.

01:53:35.860 So like Derrick Henry plays running back.

01:53:37.920 He's six foot.

01:53:39.420 Dude, he's like six, four, six, five, 245 pounds.

01:53:42.500 Oh my God.

01:53:43.340 Christian McCaffrey plays running back and he's five, 10, like 210 pounds.

01:53:49.820 Like they play the same position or how about Robbie gold's a kicker.

01:53:53.600 He's 40 years old.

01:53:55.080 And then you have guys like Trent Williams and they play the same sport.

01:53:58.720 Those comparison photos always like freak me out.

01:54:01.600 You have like, you have the six foot six guys who could, you know, kill somebody easily.

01:54:05.520 And then you have the dad of four who's just kicking footballs.

01:54:08.940 Yeah.

01:54:09.600 Who's just hunting.

01:54:10.560 Yeah.

01:54:10.780 I'm wearing turtlenecks.

01:54:11.200 Just like how different everybody is in the NFL.

01:54:13.160 It's like the, it's the biggest melting pot.

01:54:14.980 It's crazy.

01:54:15.500 That is probably pretty wild.

01:54:16.680 And then you also have a lot of Samoan players.

01:54:18.560 People don't even realize, huh?

01:54:19.920 Do you guys have a lot of Hawaiian or Samoan players?

01:54:22.200 Um, we, I've had them on my team in the past.

01:54:24.380 Like we have a Tongan, uh, Oh wow.

01:54:26.640 Yeah.

01:54:27.040 Tal no, ha funga.

01:54:27.960 We just call him Huff.

01:54:28.760 He was first team all pro this year.

01:54:30.060 He had a great season in his second year, but like, yeah, he throws it whenever he makes

01:54:33.740 a big play, he throws the tee up.

01:54:35.300 It's awesome, dude.

01:54:36.540 It's so cool.

01:54:37.580 He has, he just, he's, it's just a different energy and people are wired differently.

01:54:41.240 And I, I, that's what I love about the NFL.

01:54:42.620 You learn so much about people.

01:54:44.200 You, yeah, well like think about like, you have people who come from great family backgrounds.

01:54:49.180 People come from terrible family backgrounds.

01:54:50.700 You have people who were all Americans in college and people who are undrafted free agents

01:54:54.620 got cut by their first couple of teams.

01:54:55.920 You have guys who are first round draft pick.

01:54:57.220 That's had success.

01:54:58.200 Uh, you have Mr.

01:54:59.520 Relevant, uh, Brock Purdy.

01:55:01.600 It's like, like everybody has like such a different story.

01:55:03.560 The last pick.

01:55:04.200 Yeah.

01:55:04.320 Last pick Mr.

01:55:04.920 Relevant.

01:55:05.420 So like, this is the crazy, like if you just, if you just take the time to listen to somebody

01:55:09.600 talk and like, you understand them, like, and you're just open about it, dude, it's the

01:55:13.540 amount of stuff you can learn from people is amazing.

01:55:15.820 Like it's, it's really fun to sit and talk to guys.

01:55:18.400 What's the culture like over there at, with the 49ers?

01:55:20.920 Is it a good culture?

01:55:21.700 Yeah.

01:55:21.920 It's, it's incredible.

01:55:22.820 You hear that.

01:55:23.260 This is a regular fame.

01:55:24.120 You hear that they have a really great culture over there that John Lynch, right?

01:55:26.560 Is the guy.

01:55:26.960 So yeah, Lynch and, uh, coach Shanahan, they've brought in a lot of really good guys, but

01:55:30.880 like what it was, was like, I had a really good rookie class.

01:55:35.100 Um, and like, we were like, we had, we had a great rookie class and a lot of our rookies

01:55:39.060 around the team, but like about, and we had some really good vet, like Joe Staley, uh,

01:55:44.280 Garrett Salkley, those are two vets that we had that were amazing people.

01:55:47.920 Um, and they knew how to play the game the right way, but they were both like father figures

01:55:50.760 to a lot of the guys, like young.

01:55:51.840 Cause like I said, we had like 25 rookies.

01:55:53.320 Yeah.

01:55:53.480 That's insane.

01:55:53.840 So we had a lot of young guys.

01:55:54.860 And so they're all learning from like these guys.

01:55:56.840 And so we had good vets.

01:55:57.960 So guys learn like what matters and how to treat people with respect.

01:56:00.800 And, and so like, cause you'd be surprised.

01:56:03.360 That's not a thing that's taught everywhere.

01:56:04.620 Treating people with respect.

01:56:05.460 It's kind of crazy, but like in a locker room, you kind of have to, um, cause you're

01:56:09.320 working with them every single day.

01:56:10.200 But like, so we have a, we have a solid group of guys and it's kind of elevated to

01:56:13.560 like, so our best players, our captains are all very high character guys.

01:56:16.860 And so like you either with us or you're not.

01:56:20.100 And so you better be a good person, do your stuff that you're supposed to do and then play.

01:56:24.860 And so like, that's kind of our culture.

01:56:26.700 And it's, it's gone and we work really hard.

01:56:28.420 We hit people really hard and Hey, we're a very violent, violent football team, but

01:56:31.900 we still have a good time.

01:56:33.020 Is it a pretty selfless environment over there?

01:56:34.980 Does it feel like, because, cause like you don't even get a ton of balls, right?

01:56:37.800 Like you don't get a ton of balls, but you have, but you have a lot of great assets on

01:56:42.480 your team.

01:56:42.800 And there's a lot of people that need to get the ball.

01:56:45.100 Yeah.

01:56:45.460 Like, so it's a point of like everybody, you want individual success.

01:56:48.800 Like I would love to be in the hall of fame.

01:56:50.620 Right.

01:56:50.980 Um, and so, but like to do that, you do need a certain amount of statistics to get there.

01:56:55.320 Right.

01:56:55.500 So there's a, there's a certain type of selfishness like you, cause there is like, you want to,

01:57:00.460 you want to be good.

01:57:01.140 You want to make huge plays.

01:57:02.780 You want to, you want to play, you want to do stuff.

01:57:04.380 Right.

01:57:04.620 Um, so what's awesome about our team is like, we all like, whether it's Debo, um, Christian

01:57:10.600 McCaffrey, Kyle use check, uh, I use fantastic.

01:57:14.460 I love I use he's, he's just a different energy, but like you have these guys, like they are,

01:57:18.400 they're, they're selfless.

01:57:19.280 It's like, if we're winning the game and, and like, they're playing too, like they're

01:57:23.980 playing at high, like they're running great routes.

01:57:25.460 They're, you know, blocking at a high level too, but like they're doing everything.

01:57:28.420 We're doing everything we can.

01:57:29.460 So like, whether it's Christian McCaffrey or other running back like Elijah Mitchell, like to

01:57:32.600 get them into the end zone, that's all I care about.

01:57:34.740 Like us winning games is all I care about.

01:57:36.340 And so like, yes, I love the personal accolades.

01:57:38.760 Like you, you want to build that resume, but I mean, I would, I would trade about, yeah.

01:57:44.360 I mean, I would, I'd rather win a Superbowl than I think this is an argument I've had in

01:57:48.460 the locker room before.

01:57:48.900 Like, would you rather win a Superbowl or be in the hall of fame?

01:57:52.120 I think it would have to be the Superbowl as a fan.

01:57:55.460 I don't even know who's in the hall of fame.

01:57:57.200 That's what I mean.

01:57:57.760 I'd rather win a Superbowl than be in the hall of fame.

01:57:59.300 Now being in both, like both would be amazing.

01:58:01.500 But like, if I had to pick one, like, Hey George, would you rather win this or do that?

01:58:04.980 I'd pick on a Superbowl 10 out of 10 times.

01:58:06.920 Do you think there are players that would rather get the ball more than win the game?

01:58:12.340 There are.

01:58:15.460 Not on your team even, but in the league.

01:58:16.880 No, I'm just trying to think.

01:58:17.640 Like, I think there are certain players that like, you have to have the mindset that when,

01:58:22.840 like when you get the ball, like the more, like you have to have a mindset.

01:58:26.800 I wouldn't want the ball, dude.

01:58:27.820 It looks fucking scary.

01:58:28.800 Oh, dude, it's not for everybody.

01:58:30.900 And it is what it is.

01:58:31.700 If they threw me the ball, dude, I'd throw it back.

01:58:34.040 Nope.

01:58:34.600 Honestly.

01:58:35.280 Hop tail.

01:58:35.900 Hey, not me.

01:58:37.060 Not me.

01:58:37.600 Yeah.

01:58:37.860 No, not me.

01:58:38.760 Or I'd do a timeout.

01:58:39.980 Yeah.

01:58:40.260 I feel like you just toss a ball out of bounds.

01:58:42.420 Like, no, I'd slip, coach, my bad.

01:58:44.340 Just drop it.

01:58:44.980 I'm good.

01:58:45.900 No, but I think, wow, that's a good question.

01:58:49.320 Um, there might be some guys that are like more like stat hungry, maybe, but they're

01:58:56.300 not on our team.

01:58:57.140 I've never really been with a guy that was like that, which has been awesome.

01:59:00.100 Um, but like, and there's, there's guys who have contracts who are like, Hey, if I get

01:59:05.100 40 catches this season, I get a bonus.

01:59:07.440 Right.

01:59:07.800 Like we had a guy who, um, we had a guy who he, he was a backup.

01:59:12.680 Right.

01:59:13.060 But he's resigned because his rookie deal was over and he had an incentive in there.

01:59:16.060 That was, if he got over, he had to break his receiving yards from last year and he only

01:59:20.760 had like 150 receiving yards, but he doesn't play a lot on offense.

01:59:23.340 He's a, he's a special teams guy.

01:59:25.160 And, and by like week five, he broke it.

01:59:29.100 And it was amazing.

01:59:29.980 Cause he got, he got like a multiple a hundred thousand dollar bonus because of it.

01:59:33.140 And so like, yeah, like there is a selfishness to it because who doesn't want to get paid

01:59:36.940 an extra $250,000 or something like that.

01:59:38.960 Whatever it was, I'm not entirely sure, but like, that's awesome.

01:59:41.760 Like good for you.

01:59:42.340 And like, I'm encouraging like, Hey, Jimmy, throw him the ball.

01:59:46.440 Brock, Trey, throw that guy the ball.

01:59:48.800 So it's just like, that's pretty fun.

01:59:51.020 Like, so like when it is like, so there's, there's selflessness, but there's also a

01:59:55.200 selfishness to it, to an extent.

01:59:56.800 Right.

01:59:57.120 But I'm luckily beyond a part of a team that, Hey, like Debo is a superstar.

02:00:00.860 He's fantastic.

02:00:02.320 And he had a game where he had like 20, he had 20 receiving yards and 20 rushing yards.

02:00:07.100 We won by two touchdowns.

02:00:08.300 He's like, I don't care.

02:00:09.440 He's like, we're winning.

02:00:10.840 I have another option.

02:00:11.580 Like we have another opportunity to play next week.

02:00:13.040 Like it is what it is.

02:00:13.800 And then he goes, and I'll be right.

02:00:15.060 When I get my opportunity, I'll be ready for it.

02:00:16.960 Yeah.

02:00:17.260 And then you like, we had a playoff game.

02:00:18.720 He had a 74 yard touch here and he had like 120 yards receiving a touchdown player of

02:00:23.020 the game.

02:00:23.340 It's just like, we have those guys capable on our team, but we have six of those guys

02:00:27.240 or seven of those guys that are capable.

02:00:28.620 And then it's just, it's fun to be a part of a team like that.

02:00:30.980 Yeah.

02:00:31.540 Cause it's not everywhere.

02:00:32.520 Was McCaffrey pretty excited when he got to go to your team?

02:00:35.240 Yeah, I think he was.

02:00:36.940 A change of pace I'm sure is exciting for anyone.

02:00:38.800 Yeah.

02:00:39.000 And also you're getting to go to a team that has a chance to move forward in the league.

02:00:42.420 For sure.

02:00:42.580 And like, he, I talking to Christian, like he loved Carolina.

02:00:45.960 He loved his experience.

02:00:46.680 He has a house here.

02:00:47.260 Like that's where he thought he was going to be for his whole career.

02:00:49.620 And they traded him and getting to come to San Francisco where, especially it was fun

02:00:54.620 too.

02:00:54.740 Cause I met Christian like 2018, 2019.

02:00:57.760 And so we've kind of been talking about like, Hey, it'd be really fun to like play together

02:01:00.780 because we run the hell out of the football.

02:01:03.080 He's a really talented running back.

02:01:04.300 Right.

02:01:04.580 And so we've always kind of joked about that.

02:01:06.560 He actually sent me a photo.

02:01:07.480 It was pretty funny.

02:01:08.040 We traded jerseys in 2019.

02:01:09.980 And at the bottom of my jersey, I said, see you soon.

02:01:12.740 And now he's a Niner, which is pretty sick.

02:01:16.240 You got to speak things into existence, Theo.

02:01:18.140 It's really true, man.

02:01:19.660 We'll talk about that next.

02:01:20.800 We've got to come back to that.

02:01:21.660 Cause I like that stuff.

02:01:22.800 Really?

02:01:23.080 I'm big into that, but you got to, um, so sorry, but like he came into this offense that we

02:01:28.160 run outside zone.

02:01:29.300 Like a lot of guys, like a lot of offenses, you kind of see big guys waddle.

02:01:33.460 We're running as fast as we possibly can to try to make the, like, we're trying to move

02:01:37.620 the line of scrimmage that way.

02:01:39.060 We'll also move in it that way or that way.

02:01:41.020 So it's like, it's a lot more movement and it's, if you're a good running back and you

02:01:44.160 can see those lanes, it's a lot easier to run.

02:01:47.060 It's like, it's more difficult to run that way.

02:01:48.860 You have to have an opposite line and like tight ends that are built for that.

02:01:51.460 But when you have an O-line tight end fullback, like combo that is talented and like, and

02:01:55.900 Shanahan's very good at creating plays.

02:01:57.520 We're one of the, like the best run offenses in football.

02:01:59.840 And so like for him to be a running back in that offense, it's a really good opportunity.

02:02:03.320 It's exciting.

02:02:04.040 Yeah.

02:02:04.300 I felt excited when he got, cause even after your quarterback went out in the, in the championship

02:02:09.500 game, he had a great run right after that.

02:02:12.140 Right.

02:02:12.480 Oh yeah.

02:02:12.740 That touchdown.

02:02:13.420 That was insane.

02:02:14.540 I mean, that was Herculean dude.

02:02:15.860 And so that was like so exciting.

02:02:17.480 It was 18 Wham.

02:02:18.500 It was 18 Wham.

02:02:19.500 Yeah.

02:02:19.840 I, I down block on the defensive tackle, which happened to be Fletcher Cox.

02:02:23.220 Big.

02:02:23.660 He's a big dude.

02:02:24.400 He's a big deal.

02:02:24.900 He's a big dude.

02:02:25.900 He's, he's large.

02:02:27.340 God.

02:02:28.240 And sometimes when you push in a large man, do you feel their stomach or where do you

02:02:31.260 put your hands on them?

02:02:32.760 Oh God.

02:02:33.420 Like the only way to move big people, you have to hit them.

02:02:35.520 You have to hit people in the hip.

02:02:36.680 That's how you make a move.

02:02:37.540 Oh, yeah.

02:02:38.640 So like when I'm blocking, so like, I don't know, do you know what, you have any idea what

02:02:41.040 gap scheme is?

02:02:43.000 You ever run power?

02:02:44.000 It's called power.

02:02:45.140 The tight end, everyone blocks down and you pull a guard from the opposite side to kick

02:02:48.660 somebody out.

02:02:49.480 So it's called gap scheme.

02:02:50.660 It's called power.

02:02:51.280 Right.

02:02:52.020 But on that, the entire coaching point is if there's, all right, real quick, if I'm the

02:02:56.520 right tight end and this is the offensive tackle, like this is the offensive tackle right

02:03:00.180 here and we're going that way.

02:03:01.860 And there's a guy standing right here.

02:03:03.500 I'm aiming Mike, my, my left shoulder pad is aimed on his hip.

02:03:06.740 Cause if I can hit that hip, his feet will move.

02:03:09.640 And then the right tackle will pick them up and he'll move him for me while I go up to

02:03:12.720 the linebacker to pin it.

02:03:13.860 So you're creating a wall and the running back's going to go right behind us.

02:03:17.300 And so like my target is that hip and I'm trying to hit it as violently and as like hard

02:03:21.940 as I possibly can.

02:03:22.940 Cause it doesn't matter if you're 200 pounds or if you're 300 pounds, if I get you in

02:03:26.880 that hip, it moves your base.

02:03:28.500 And then if you're off your base and getting hit by another big guy, you're screwed.

02:03:31.620 Right.

02:03:31.740 And if it's that, it's that fast and it's that fast and like, they don't know that

02:03:34.240 place coming too.

02:03:35.020 So like, that's where my advantage is.

02:03:36.160 And so I have to like, I'm like a coiled spring just as soon as they say hike and I'm diving

02:03:40.500 through that guy's hip to go up to the second level.

02:03:42.500 So yeah.

02:03:43.020 Sorry.

02:03:43.300 Gaps, that's my run game.

02:03:44.280 I love the run game.

02:03:45.380 Yeah.

02:03:45.620 Cause we were talking about like, I don't get the ball every play and like, I don't want

02:03:49.260 the ball every play.

02:03:50.040 I like, I like getting the ball.

02:03:51.240 It's fun to catch the ball.

02:03:52.080 It's fun to runner.

02:03:52.720 Like you, like running with a football in open space and not getting hit is one of

02:03:57.280 the coolest things you can possibly do as a human being.

02:03:59.080 Yeah.

02:03:59.160 What did you feel like just driving real fast, dude?

02:04:01.500 I have a smile on my face.

02:04:02.700 I'm just like, this is like, cause it doesn't happen very often.

02:04:04.880 It's hard to get that open in the NFL.

02:04:06.280 Cause everyone's such good athletes, but when you're just running through the space, man,

02:04:10.260 it is like, it's illegal.

02:04:11.440 Yes.

02:04:11.740 Like, I feel like I'm a kid who just like, I just stole something.

02:04:14.160 I'm just running as fast as I can.

02:04:16.020 And it's, it's such a, it's such a thrilling feeling.

02:04:18.560 But so in the, I don't get to do that all the time.

02:04:20.300 So like running routes is fun, but when you don't get the ball running routes, isn't

02:04:23.120 really fun.

02:04:23.460 Cause I just get tired.

02:04:24.560 And so when you're in the run game and the whole thing is like, it depends on me.

02:04:28.680 Like the running backs to help me has to set me up, but like, I have to hit this guy as

02:04:32.600 hard as I can.

02:04:33.340 And then there's all these fundamentals, whether it's your first step, your second step, your

02:04:36.060 inside hand, where your outside hand goes, but like, there's just art to it.

02:04:40.180 And people that are really good at it, you see their technique and like what it looks like.

02:04:44.200 And it's just, it's really fun for me.

02:04:45.700 I watch a lot of, I like, I love watching offensive line, like run the football and like hit

02:04:49.840 people.

02:04:50.300 So like, there's this artwork to it.

02:04:51.660 And so like, I put, I like, I'm the best run blocking, run blocking tight end in the

02:04:56.200 NFL.

02:04:56.960 I do it differently than anybody else does.

02:04:59.020 And I've been doing it differently for like my entire career.

02:05:01.240 And I, like my first year, maybe not so much, but like second year on, I kind of like figured

02:05:05.460 out what works for me.

02:05:06.580 And so I put as much effort as I can to that.

02:05:10.380 So then what's great about the tight end position, I can affect every single play.

02:05:14.420 I can, I can have a huge impact on every single play in the football game.

02:05:17.540 Like a wide receiver who's on the backside of an outside zone going away from him.

02:05:21.120 If he doesn't block the corner, it might not be a big deal.

02:05:24.520 Every play that I'm in on, I have, uh, I have the opportunity to have a huge impact, whether

02:05:28.380 it's run play or a pass play.

02:05:29.540 So like, I love playing tight end because I have that opportunity.

02:05:32.000 And because I get to do all those things, I'm going to do everything I can to be great

02:05:35.420 at all those things, whether it's pass blocking, run blocking, or running routes and catching.

02:05:38.820 So like, I'm the only position gets, you really get to do everything.

02:05:41.700 Like we had a tight end throw touchdown in the Superbowl a couple of years ago, the Eagles

02:05:44.260 guy, um, but like, you got to do a little bit of everything.

02:05:47.420 And I really appreciate that.

02:05:48.520 So like, I don't want to be an average run blocking tight end.

02:05:52.040 Like I'm 240 pounds.

02:05:53.240 Like I'm not like there's tight ends.

02:05:55.780 I like Mercedes Lewis is six foot six, six seven.

02:05:58.500 He's like two 65.

02:06:00.040 That man, he manhandles people.

02:06:01.640 And it's different.

02:06:02.040 Like we do two different, like we hit people differently, but like, I'm trying, I want

02:06:06.180 to be, and he is a very good tight end.

02:06:07.440 He's played for, he's going into year 18.

02:06:08.780 He's fantastic.

02:06:09.960 I'm just like, I want to be great at everything that I'm asked to do.

02:06:13.560 So then I don't have to get taken out for anything.

02:06:15.400 I want to play every single snap.

02:06:16.260 You don't play every snap.

02:06:17.080 I do play every snap.

02:06:18.160 Yeah.

02:06:18.320 I mean, I, I played the most snaps of my career this year.

02:06:20.440 Did you really?

02:06:21.000 Yeah.

02:06:21.220 Of my career.

02:06:21.960 And I missed the first two games, which was crazy.

02:06:24.360 That's a lot of snaps.

02:06:25.600 Yeah.

02:06:25.740 I played like, yeah.

02:06:26.360 I mean, I play like 98% of the snaps every single game.

02:06:28.940 That's incredible, man.

02:06:30.280 Oh dude.

02:06:30.720 It's well, like I said, your window is only so big.

02:06:33.700 So like you might as well make the most of your window.

02:06:35.380 Yeah.

02:06:35.980 I like, and also I only get to hit people for 17 weeks.

02:06:38.340 So yeah, I don't get it.

02:06:40.620 I don't get hit anybody.

02:06:41.240 I have a huge blocking set at my house.

02:06:42.660 I'm going to hit.

02:06:43.400 I can't wait to hit that tomorrow.

02:06:44.620 It's going to be real fun.

02:06:45.060 And will you dress it up like certain players or anything?

02:06:47.500 No, that's a good question though.

02:06:48.860 That's fun.

02:06:49.420 I have thought about that, but no, I don't know who I would, I don't know who I'd set

02:06:53.180 up at.

02:06:53.440 Like there's not, I don't really not like very many people in the NFL.

02:06:56.220 There's a couple of guys that, you know, I don't care about or I might not care for.

02:07:02.200 There's not too many games that I completely circle the calendar.

02:07:04.100 There's a couple just like based on a player that I get to go against, but I don't have

02:07:08.260 that issue very much.

02:07:09.660 I like everybody.

02:07:10.560 Yeah.

02:07:10.620 Like what's one of those teams where you're like, I'm going against this team this week.

02:07:14.240 Um, the Rams, that's a big one for us.

02:07:17.720 Like, because they play us, they play us the exact same way every time.

02:07:21.800 And then at the end of the day, they have Aaron Donald who's, I mean, yeah, besides Trent

02:07:26.440 Williams, sorry, Trent Williams and Aaron Donald are the two best football players in the NFL.

02:07:30.680 Not even close.

02:07:31.440 Like, I mean, sorry, Patrick Mahomes is really good.

02:07:32.980 Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady, like there are other good players, but like for dominance at their

02:07:36.340 position, every single snap, Trent Williams, Aaron Donald and Nick Bosa is getting there

02:07:40.480 too.

02:07:40.660 He's going to be really good.

02:07:41.340 But like Aaron Donald, like eight time, all pro, like that's insane.

02:07:44.160 His whole career is he's all pro.

02:07:45.740 But so when you play the Rams, you have to game plan for Aaron Donald, because if you

02:07:48.740 only put one guy on him, the likelihood of him blowing up the play and hitting the running

02:07:52.400 back or the quarterback in the backfield and making them fumble significantly increases.

02:07:55.580 So you have to, so you have to completely game plan for him.

02:07:58.200 So you got to plan for him hugely.

02:07:59.860 Yeah.

02:08:00.060 Hugely.

02:08:00.800 And, um, so we had to plan for him like huge.

02:08:04.260 And then, um, sorry.

02:08:07.040 So like, and then like the way they play their defenses, they just try to bottleneck us as

02:08:10.840 much as they can.

02:08:11.420 So it makes our outside zone a little bit more difficult.

02:08:13.840 Um, and then they kind of played in this, like kind of a quarters thing where like they

02:08:17.560 keep everything in front of, like it's kind of bend, but don't break.

02:08:19.840 Like you can give up some small step, but you're not getting anything past us.

02:08:22.180 And then they're going to be very violent.

02:08:23.240 They're going to come up in the run game.

02:08:24.340 Um, and so it's just like playing a team like that where they're, so like I'm in my

02:08:29.800 three point stance, Theo, and line of scrimmage is like right here.

02:08:33.740 Oh yeah.

02:08:34.780 They have an outside linebacker who's wider than you are and like a tilted stance and

02:08:38.740 a sprinter stance.

02:08:39.540 And the second we say hike, he's trying to run through my face as fast as he can that

02:08:42.840 way to not let me reach him.

02:08:45.140 And they're like, not every team does that, but it's very difficult to go against because

02:08:48.600 at that point, it's just kind of me saying, all right, who's going to hit who harder

02:08:51.900 every time, every time.

02:08:54.580 And like, we've like, and like, there's different ways that we, we sometimes put a

02:08:58.000 guy in motion and we'll like, we'll double team that guy because like having to hit

02:09:01.440 somebody and anchor, I think is easier than having to hit somebody and then move.

02:09:05.080 Cause if I anchor the window, doesn't everyone, he runs into my back.

02:09:09.700 Feel me like, so if like, if I go to block you and the office lines coming this way

02:09:13.260 and I stopped my feet, I'm gonna get ran up on it.

02:09:15.560 Someone's going to go through my legs.

02:09:16.380 So like, I have to hit you and then keep my feet running.

02:09:18.800 So I'm running like the people behind me are also moving people towards me.

02:09:22.420 Like if you're at the point of attack, you have to run.

02:09:24.600 And his job is to not let me run.

02:09:26.260 Damn.

02:09:26.800 It's wild.

02:09:27.420 So, but the Rams do a really good job of that.

02:09:29.960 If you, do you think, say, if you coach, you coached me, you trained me, right?

02:09:35.180 Yeah.

02:09:35.460 Ultimate training, ultimate coaching.

02:09:37.980 Sure.

02:09:38.300 Do you think I could play?

02:09:39.980 You don't.

02:09:40.560 No.

02:09:41.580 In the NFL or like pickleball?

02:09:43.840 Pickleball.

02:09:44.260 I think you'd be really good at it.

02:09:45.080 Dude, pickleball.

02:09:46.040 Come on, man.

02:09:46.580 Dude, we have a lot of guys that play it.

02:09:47.660 I love that game.

02:09:48.340 What about in maybe the USFL?

02:09:50.940 Like what position you want, dog?

02:09:52.180 Huh?

02:09:52.540 I'm saying anything on the field and you were my trainer, man.

02:09:56.580 And I don't get, and I would never give up.

02:09:58.100 You could long snap.

02:09:59.960 I would have a good long snap.

02:10:01.120 But I mean, you'd have to, how much do you weigh right now?

02:10:03.460 Probably 186, 184.

02:10:05.520 You'd have to get up like 220.

02:10:07.540 Fuck, dude.

02:10:08.360 Well, you have to hold some weight because like in the NFL, when there's a small long snapper,

02:10:12.380 they'll just put like a defensive lineman on them.

02:10:14.220 And it blows them up.

02:10:14.940 Yeah, just crushes them.

02:10:15.980 Oh.

02:10:16.500 Yeah, so like there's a, you have to have a little size to you at least.

02:10:19.920 But you could do that.

02:10:20.500 I just want to have to wake up and eat at night, like in the middle of the night, like

02:10:23.740 a baby.

02:10:24.520 Dude, so in college, I had a really difficult time.

02:10:26.460 Like I couldn't get past 225.

02:10:28.840 I couldn't do it for like three years.

02:10:30.060 And so in my third year, I drank eight Gatorade protein shakes a day.

02:10:35.780 And like literally I had, so like, let's just say I wake up at 6 a.m. for my lift.

02:10:41.200 I drink a protein shake then.

02:10:42.680 I get to my lift.

02:10:44.560 And before I get, before I start the lift, before I start the warmup, I drink another

02:10:47.920 protein shake.

02:10:48.540 I go to the warmup, come in, drink a protein shake before I get on the scale.

02:10:52.700 This is just to try to keep my weight on.

02:10:54.980 After the lift, I drink a protein shake.

02:10:56.980 I take three, I think I'm at four, I think I'm at four there.

02:11:00.300 I leave.

02:11:01.240 And then for lunch, I have a protein shake.

02:11:03.180 I'm in class.

02:11:03.840 I have a protein shake.

02:11:04.980 Is your truck just full of dirty protein shake containers?

02:11:07.280 Yeah.

02:11:07.360 Like do you, do you ever see the old Gatorade cans?

02:11:09.440 Yeah.

02:11:09.960 Like those big thick ones.

02:11:11.660 You know I'm lying to you.

02:11:12.560 Hold on, bring it up.

02:11:13.060 Yeah, pull that up.

02:11:13.600 Look up Gatorade protein shake can, aluminum, like metal can.

02:11:16.860 But I would drink those.

02:11:18.220 I had so many of them at my house.

02:11:19.860 And then I would have them before I go to bed.

02:11:22.380 And then I would set an alarm if I was really struggling.

02:11:24.820 If I would set an alarm for 3 a.m. or no, 2 a.m. and then 4 a.m.

02:11:27.720 To have them again?

02:11:28.620 Yeah, just to drink them.

02:11:29.700 Oh my God.

02:11:29.760 Because that was the easiest thing for me.

02:11:30.940 I didn't eat like, oh yeah, that thing.

02:11:32.580 I'm a damn drug addict.

02:11:33.260 Dude, you could kill someone with that.

02:11:34.420 Like it was a brick.

02:11:35.900 I haven't even seen that.

02:11:37.040 I don't think that's available to the public.

02:11:39.140 No, it's not available anymore.

02:11:40.360 But so like I literally would-

02:11:41.360 Well, that's insane, man.

02:11:42.840 I know.

02:11:43.260 You know how bad a product or how something off about a product has to be that's not available.

02:11:48.240 I think you have to go out of your weight.

02:11:49.800 Well, yeah, that's actually weird.

02:11:50.900 I didn't even know Gatorade did protein until I got to Iowa.

02:11:53.040 And I was like, oh, whoa.

02:11:54.180 No one knew it until just now when you told us.

02:11:56.860 Probably every college football athlete knew.

02:11:58.780 That was in a lot of places.

02:11:59.660 But yeah, so that was-

02:12:00.780 So you got to have that weight on.

02:12:01.900 So that's a number one thing to even be able to play.

02:12:03.900 You really have to have some weight on you.

02:12:05.340 Yeah, to an extent.

02:12:06.320 Like I said, if I weighed 225 pounds right now, I wouldn't be in the NFL.

02:12:10.800 Wow.

02:12:11.420 Yeah.

02:12:11.700 I mean, I wouldn't be able to block.

02:12:12.540 I have to be at least 240 for me to be able to move people still.

02:12:16.020 To even show up.

02:12:16.900 Who's the big guy?

02:12:17.740 Oh, Calais Campbell, huh?

02:12:19.540 Oh my gosh.

02:12:20.460 How big is he?

02:12:21.080 I met him for the first time.

02:12:22.160 He's the nicest guy.

02:12:23.160 Oh my gosh.

02:12:24.000 He's like a giant.

02:12:24.960 He's like, how are you doing down there?

02:12:26.400 Oh, hey, hi, hi.

02:12:27.980 I'm like, hey.

02:12:28.880 Hi, sir.

02:12:29.680 How are you?

02:12:30.580 Nice to meet you.

02:12:31.220 His brother is a comedian.

02:12:34.620 Oh, cool.

02:12:35.100 So I got to meet him a couple of times.

02:12:38.100 But yeah, he's like the gentlest giant.

02:12:40.640 Dude, he's super, super nice.

02:12:42.260 Yeah, he's a cool guy.

02:12:43.580 I haven't met a ton of NFL players,

02:12:45.740 but I got to see Brandon Marshall at the Super Bowl.

02:12:48.260 Real nice guy.

02:12:48.820 Yeah, he's cool, too.

02:12:49.780 He's huge.

02:12:50.900 Yeah, he was very tall.

02:12:52.240 I thought he was white Howard at first.

02:12:54.840 Yeah, that's funny.

02:12:56.240 But yeah, that is.

02:12:56.840 No, but he's bigger than I am, too.

02:12:58.360 And he played wide receiver.

02:12:59.540 Think about that for a sec.

02:13:00.880 Yeah.

02:13:01.080 I was like, Brandon, why don't you just play tight end, dude?

02:13:02.560 Well, less money.

02:13:03.800 But I was like, I mean, you could have played another couple of years.

02:13:06.540 Why do y'all get less money?

02:13:08.540 I don't know.

02:13:10.100 Let's figure that out.

02:13:11.060 I'll call in, and you're going to figure it out.

02:13:12.520 Because you're doing more.

02:13:13.920 Thank you.

02:13:14.940 I never realized that.

02:13:16.340 Get this.

02:13:17.580 So Travis Kelsey, this guy, 1,300 yards, 10 touchdowns a year

02:13:22.260 for like the last seven years, basically.

02:13:24.100 But he gets more balls thrown over than you.

02:13:25.780 Sure.

02:13:26.140 But my point is that if he was a wide receiver, his contract,

02:13:30.900 he'd be the 26th highest paid wide receiver in the NFL.

02:13:33.620 Does that make sense?

02:13:34.640 No.

02:13:35.080 No.

02:13:35.480 He should probably be top five.

02:13:37.420 So that's like, I don't know.

02:13:38.920 He should probably be making, if like there's wide receivers out there

02:13:41.420 making over $25 million that don't get his stats.

02:13:45.200 So like, why would he not get paid more?

02:13:47.100 Yeah.

02:13:47.780 Right?

02:13:48.120 I mean, like I was, I think I was third in the NFL in touchdowns this year.

02:13:51.900 And yeah, I mean, there's 20 receivers that make more money than me.

02:13:55.920 That's unfair.

02:13:57.000 No.

02:13:57.240 Yeah.

02:13:57.440 And like, I'm happy for them.

02:13:58.540 I'm happy for them that they're making their money.

02:14:00.200 You're not saying anything against them.

02:14:00.640 No, it's nothing against them.

02:14:01.480 It's just like, that's the tight end market.

02:14:02.720 Like our franchise tag is like $10 million, which is like, if a team doesn't,

02:14:06.740 like Evan Ingram tied in for the Jackson drivers, he was franchise tag,

02:14:11.080 which means like, they don't want to do a new deal yet,

02:14:12.820 but they're going to give you a one-year deal.

02:14:14.480 And it's based on the average of like the top couple contracts of your position.

02:14:18.360 So like his was $10 million.

02:14:19.700 And then the quarterback franchise tag is $30 million for that one season.

02:14:24.060 And I get the quarterback is the most, that's the most important position.

02:14:26.980 But like wide receiver franchise tag is, I want to say like 20 something.

02:14:30.320 What's like, are they really double the value?

02:14:32.440 No, I don't think so.

02:14:33.880 Especially, yeah, I don't think.

02:14:36.080 No, I don't think so.

02:14:36.740 Especially now when you're getting all these hybrid, you have like Taysom Hill,

02:14:39.280 you have a hybrid player that could possibly do it all.

02:14:40.980 Yeah, sure.

02:14:41.940 And like, no, now the thing, when you get an, you, you have to be great at all those things

02:14:47.820 for it to be a value of you in a contract negotiation too.

02:14:50.960 Right.

02:14:51.000 That's a good point.

02:14:51.620 Yeah.

02:14:51.840 So you have to be great.

02:14:52.540 Like if you, and if you can just, if you can just do several things,

02:14:56.840 but you do them averagely, I'd rather have like a guy that does this great

02:15:01.360 and a guy that does this great than having a guy that doesn't both average.

02:15:03.740 Right.

02:15:04.200 That's a good point.

02:15:05.000 Yeah.

02:15:05.120 So like, that's a part of it too, but it's just like, yeah.

02:15:07.280 Is there, is there a position that we don't know that you could possibly play

02:15:10.220 on the field that people wouldn't really realize maybe?

02:15:12.180 Oh dude, I would love to play like outside linebacker in a three, four defense.

02:15:16.860 Kind of like, I know I'm not going to say like, I'm not going to say off,

02:15:20.100 I'm going to be amazing at it, but I think I would have a real shot at it.

02:15:22.840 If I could get up to like 260, 265, maybe 270 and set an edge, I think I'd do that.

02:15:28.320 I'm a really good athlete and like, you don't have to run as much, which is really nice.

02:15:32.240 I get tired sometimes, dude.

02:15:33.760 Oh, I get tired watching.

02:15:35.120 Thank you.

02:15:35.840 I've had to pause it and fucking get water.

02:15:37.660 Oh dude.

02:15:38.620 If you ever watch, like I, I put the oxygen mask on almost after every drive.

02:15:42.500 I don't know if it does anything.

02:15:43.540 How nice is that, huh?

02:15:44.220 I don't know if it does anything, but I do feel better.

02:15:46.460 Like I'm just like, oh, well, even if it's a placebo effect, I'm big into placebo effects.

02:15:49.660 If you believe it, that it works, do it.

02:15:51.820 Yeah.

02:15:52.140 Is it flavored the oxygen?

02:15:53.500 Is it like grape ice or anything?

02:15:55.540 I'm going to ask.

02:15:56.560 Yeah.

02:15:57.100 You know, next year.

02:15:57.820 Get some gas in there, dog.

02:15:59.520 Riptide rush, Gatorade.

02:16:00.640 I'd do something, man.

02:16:01.580 Glacier freeze.

02:16:02.560 Yeah.

02:16:03.400 Salted caramel.

02:16:04.360 I don't know.

02:16:05.240 I'm also naming.

02:16:05.780 You're a sweet guy.

02:16:06.600 Well, I'm naming vape flavors also.

02:16:08.540 Are you?

02:16:09.120 I don't think I've vaped since college.

02:16:10.680 I did that for a hot second.

02:16:11.800 Don't do it, dude.

02:16:12.840 I know.

02:16:13.140 I know.

02:16:13.380 I was listening to a couple of your podcasts.

02:16:14.860 People are fucking suffering from it.

02:16:16.320 I listened to your Jay Cutler podcast.

02:16:17.720 That was fun.

02:16:18.260 Did you?

02:16:18.680 Yeah.

02:16:19.360 I had to prepare a little bit, dog.

02:16:20.780 Oh, that's a good point, man.

02:16:22.220 Yeah.

02:16:22.440 Jay kind of doesn't.

02:16:23.460 I can't believe Jay played quarterback that long in the NFL.

02:16:28.840 I don't think Jay can believe it.

02:16:31.060 That's a good point.

02:16:31.900 You know, it's funny, too.

02:16:32.540 So, I'm a Bears fan.

02:16:34.060 I grew up in Iowa.

02:16:35.260 There's no NFL team.

02:16:36.160 So, I grew up in Chicago Bears fan.

02:16:37.520 You have to be a Bears fan.

02:16:38.120 Yeah, so I grew up Chicago Bears, Cubs fan.

02:16:40.320 And, like, I still like the Bears.

02:16:41.720 Like, I'm still a fan of the Bears.

02:16:44.100 Was it tough during the Cutler years?

02:16:46.600 He brought a lot of excitement to it.

02:16:48.320 Like, he really did.

02:16:49.120 Like, he would have games where he'd throw for, like, 350 yards and four touchdowns.

02:16:51.960 It was really fun to watch and fun to be a Bears fan.

02:16:53.760 Like, plenty of heartbreakers.

02:16:55.140 But, like, I enjoy Jay Cutler.

02:16:56.980 The memes of him, like, having a cigarette in his mouth at the podium.

02:16:59.540 Like, those are some of my favorite football memes.

02:17:01.540 Awesome.

02:17:02.180 Because he was the first person that they made those memes about.

02:17:04.660 It was him with the, like, just cigarettes.

02:17:06.820 Like, just smoking cigarette Jay Cutler.

02:17:08.340 Oh, he's a regular dude.

02:17:09.560 He's just a regular dude.

02:17:10.680 Jay Cutler's a regular dude, man.

02:17:11.980 Like, I'll see him at a bar.

02:17:13.040 I'll see him at, like, a party or something.

02:17:14.300 And he's just, like, you would almost.

02:17:17.280 Yeah, you wouldn't even guess.

02:17:18.580 I don't know if you wouldn't guess.

02:17:19.680 I don't know.

02:17:21.420 But, yeah, he's just the most regular dude.

02:17:23.920 He's just, like.

02:17:24.800 That's the crazy thing about NFL players.

02:17:26.020 Most of us are just regular dudes.

02:17:27.760 Do there be.

02:17:29.340 Are there still players that smoke cigarettes, you think?

02:17:33.320 Like, you've ever been out there and you're like,

02:17:35.640 Jesus, somebody's been fucking smoking at halftime.

02:17:39.240 I had a teammate my rookie season who, after practice and after games,

02:17:44.080 would smoke cigarettes.

02:17:45.740 Yeah.

02:17:46.580 You know what?

02:17:47.400 I'm not going to say who it is, but there was.

02:17:49.860 We lost my rookie year.

02:17:51.360 We lost in Lambeau.

02:17:53.820 Aaron Rodgers did, like, a 30-second drive to kick a field goal to win the game.

02:17:57.540 And, like, this one, we were 0-9-2.

02:17:59.180 So, like, we almost went to Lambeau and won as, like, my rookie class.

02:18:01.720 And they were a much better team than us, but we somehow kept it close.

02:18:05.340 And, like, losing that.

02:18:06.340 And I had a good game, too, but, like, it was a heartbreaker.

02:18:08.360 And, like, I said, I grew up a Bears fan, so, like, playing in Lambeau for the first time

02:18:11.300 in a night game, like, it was really cool.

02:18:13.440 Yeah.

02:18:13.640 It was a cool experience.

02:18:14.220 Like, you want to win those games.

02:18:15.160 So, losing.

02:18:16.000 And, like, I go to the shower, and he's in there smoking a cigarette.

02:18:19.660 And I was like, hey, man, I'll take one of those if you don't mind, man.

02:18:22.740 Hopefully I don't get in trouble for that.

02:18:23.920 Like, I don't know.

02:18:24.340 Like, that's probably illegal, but I'm sorry, NFL.

02:18:26.340 Don't get mad at me.

02:18:27.020 But I did do that one time, and that was a really fun one.

02:18:29.800 And, like, one of the coaches walked in and, like, looked at us, and he just walked out

02:18:32.160 of the shower.

02:18:32.860 So, I was like, yeah, dude, just give us a sec, man.

02:18:35.120 Just chilling.

02:18:35.620 Yeah, look, it's two probably nude men smoking cigarettes in a shower.

02:18:40.400 You're not wrong.

02:18:41.260 It was.

02:18:41.740 Yeah, bro, it's Russia.

02:18:43.440 Okay?

02:18:43.900 That's what it is.

02:18:45.920 Let them have their moment.

02:18:47.120 They just lost a game.

02:18:48.140 Yeah, like, dude, will you give me a sec, please?

02:18:50.120 Oh, there should be eight minutes where you should be allowed to smoke a cigarette after the game,

02:18:53.040 I think, if your team loses.

02:18:55.320 Are there quarterbacks that you wouldn't be excited to play for, do you feel like?

02:18:58.460 Ooh.

02:18:59.360 Excited to play for?

02:19:00.760 Well, let's just do this.

02:19:01.660 How about nonverbal communication?

02:19:02.840 You don't have to say anything.

02:19:03.740 Okay.

02:19:04.060 I'll rattle off a couple names, right?

02:19:05.540 Okay.

02:19:07.300 And what do you want me to do?

02:19:08.440 You don't have to say anything.

02:19:09.080 You don't have to do anything.

02:19:09.740 Okay.

02:19:10.460 Just look.

02:19:11.060 Just look.

02:19:11.720 Okay, I'm looking.

02:19:12.160 Just look forward.

02:19:12.540 All right.

02:19:13.880 Andy Dalton.

02:19:15.540 Did the Red Rocket.

02:19:20.120 Deshaun Watson.

02:19:23.040 Jamarcus Russell.

02:19:25.180 Jamarcus, the tape guy.

02:19:26.380 Remember that?

02:19:26.800 They gave him fake tapes.

02:19:28.300 That's crazy.

02:19:29.840 See, the only way, it would be as a teammate, for him to do that, that would piss me off.

02:19:36.940 That would bum me out.

02:19:37.780 That would bum me out.

02:19:38.520 Like, I'll give anybody an opportunity.

02:19:39.700 Like, I don't care who the, like, I don't, like, if you put your effort in, and you show

02:19:43.900 up, and you play, and, like, you did everything you could to be prepared, and you have a bad

02:19:47.060 game, I'm not going to hate you for that.

02:19:48.360 Right.

02:19:48.580 If you tried.

02:19:49.640 But, like, if you go out of your, like, if you don't, like, try.

02:19:53.280 If you're not being a, yeah.

02:19:54.180 If you're not.

02:19:54.480 A professional.

02:19:55.060 It's your job.

02:19:56.040 Like, that's the crazy thing.

02:19:56.820 Like, in college, you have to do classes, and, like, you're a very, you're testosterone

02:20:01.620 field 20-year-old.

02:20:03.160 Oh, yeah.

02:20:03.640 Like, you have other things in your life that might, at that time, matter more than football.

02:20:07.200 If you're in the NFL, like, yes, your family matters, and, like, there's certain things,

02:20:10.580 but, like, it's your job.

02:20:11.620 It's your profession.

02:20:12.460 And you're, you have all, you have 60 other guys in that locker room who count on you to do

02:20:16.380 your job.

02:20:16.780 Oh, yeah.

02:20:17.180 And for you to do that.

02:20:18.480 It's unreal.

02:20:18.920 Yeah, like, I wouldn't appreciate that.

02:20:20.760 So, that's, that's something that I would, that would piss me off.

02:20:23.580 Yeah, something like that would really upset me, I think.

02:20:25.660 Yeah.

02:20:25.880 Do you what you're supposed to do?

02:20:27.240 Well, like, my goal is to win a Super Bowl.

02:20:28.880 I, like, proven in the NFC Championship game, I can't help much if I can't get the ball thrown

02:20:32.820 to me.

02:20:33.260 Yeah.

02:20:33.540 We didn't have a quarterback, so.

02:20:34.920 Could, should somebody, who, who was the last quarterback to go in?

02:20:37.860 Because you guys lost a couple quarterbacks.

02:20:39.320 So.

02:20:39.740 You guys lost your whole quarterbacks all year.

02:20:41.040 Yeah, yeah.

02:20:41.400 So, fun fact, I've played six years in the NFL, and four out of the, I've had one quarterback

02:20:46.260 for one season, one time.

02:20:48.020 2019, I had Jimmy G for one season, and we went to the Super Bowl.

02:20:52.220 My rookie year, we had three quarterbacks.

02:20:53.900 My second year, we had three quarterbacks.

02:20:56.020 You had Nick Mullen one time, too, didn't you?

02:20:57.260 Love Nick Mullen.

02:20:57.920 Yeah.

02:20:58.460 He's from Louisiana.

02:20:59.940 Yeah, he is.

02:21:00.520 Oh, yeah.

02:21:00.880 He's from Louisiana.

02:21:01.100 He's from Louisiana.

02:21:01.360 I'm a fan, man.

02:21:02.100 He lives in Franklin, Tennessee.

02:21:03.320 Oh, he does.

02:21:03.940 Yeah, he's part of the reason I live here.

02:21:05.320 He was one of my boys.

02:21:06.020 So, we played five years together at Iowa, and then four years together at San Francisco.

02:21:08.720 So, he's one of my best friends.

02:21:11.400 Oh, he's wonderful.

02:21:12.560 But he, so, like, my second year, I had three quarterbacks.

02:21:15.640 2020, I had three quarterbacks.

02:21:17.140 2021, I had two quarterbacks.

02:21:18.820 And this past season, I had four quarterbacks.

02:21:20.240 Fuck, you're bad luck.

02:21:21.560 No, not me.

02:21:23.020 I'm not bad luck.

02:21:23.700 I'm just saying.

02:21:24.760 Sorry, sorry, sorry.

02:21:26.180 Oh, dude, I never knocked wood on an American flag.

02:21:28.120 That's got to be good luck.

02:21:29.120 That's got to be good luck.

02:21:30.100 It's got to be great luck.

02:21:31.100 Yeah, but so, that's...

02:21:32.340 How hard was it when, like, did...

02:21:34.940 Our fourth quarterback was Josh, by the way.

02:21:37.680 Great dude.

02:21:38.280 Josh Johnson.

02:21:39.380 That was the last guy who got hurt.

02:21:40.580 That was the last guy that got hurt.

02:21:42.020 And then, so after that, who was there, was there any talk that somebody else could go

02:21:46.220 in there?

02:21:46.840 So, like, you, like, you, you tentatively game plan for, like, an emergency quarterback.

02:21:51.400 And Kyle Juszczyk, our fullback, was our emergency quarterback.

02:21:54.120 But, like, he's only, like, he doesn't know all the footwork stuff for plays.

02:21:59.900 Like, the playbook was, like, four play, like, four to eight plays.

02:22:02.380 Because it's crazy.

02:22:04.240 Because Coach Shanahan, Kyle Shanahan, he's been in NFL, like, I want to say, like, 15 to 20 years.

02:22:09.040 Like, being a part of coaching in it.

02:22:10.940 And he's never had it happen to him.

02:22:12.640 His dad, Mike Shanahan, never, never seen it in his career.

02:22:15.620 Right, so he can't even text his dad at halftime and ask him.

02:22:17.560 Yeah, but what do I do?

02:22:18.280 Like, he never experienced it either.

02:22:19.900 And then we have our running backs coach.

02:22:21.220 He's like, he's in year, like, 60.

02:22:22.980 And he's never seen it either.

02:22:24.320 Like, at any level.

02:22:25.320 And so, it's just, like, it doesn't happen often.

02:22:27.820 So, like, you're mildly.

02:22:28.820 And everyone's like, well, why aren't you more prepared?

02:22:30.240 Because it doesn't happen.

02:22:31.520 Well, of course you're not prepared.

02:22:32.760 But were you guys, like, looking around the sideline?

02:22:34.720 Like, who's even lean enough here to even throw?

02:22:37.040 You know what I'm saying?

02:22:37.520 Like, because at that point, it's also, like, a stat.

02:22:39.380 You can't have, like.

02:22:40.100 The only thing that I would have wanted to see just for, like, even at the point, like,

02:22:43.340 because.

02:22:44.120 Like, for kicks.

02:22:44.840 Yeah.

02:22:45.120 After Josh got hurt, like, and we were down.

02:22:47.540 And, like, it's.

02:22:48.600 I think at that, when Josh got hurt, where I think we were only down set.

02:22:51.200 Like, we might have been down seven.

02:22:52.480 Or, no, we were down 21 to seven when he.

02:22:54.480 Excuse me.

02:22:55.240 When he got hurt.

02:22:56.220 And so, at that point, you're like, okay, we can't throw.

02:22:59.120 So, we, like, the next couple of minutes, like, you're like, okay, we might have a shot

02:23:02.260 here.

02:23:02.400 But I think they went down and scored.

02:23:03.560 It's 28 to seven.

02:23:04.880 And you're just like, we can't physically throw the football.

02:23:07.600 And they're just going to put 11 people in the box.

02:23:10.100 All right.

02:23:10.580 Like, sure.

02:23:11.300 Like, how creative can you get?

02:23:13.100 I know Jawan Jennings, one of our wide receivers, he played at Tennessee.

02:23:16.440 He was, like, a top five quarterback recruit in high school, which was kind of.

02:23:19.400 So, like, maybe I wanted to see that.

02:23:21.100 But, like, at the end of the day, like, you're not going to.

02:23:23.580 It's not high school where you just put your best athlete at quarterback or college where

02:23:26.360 you can just put a really fast guy at quarterback and you just run around

02:23:28.320 the edge and do cool stuff.

02:23:29.620 Like, that doesn't exist in the NFL.

02:23:32.240 Like, it just doesn't happen.

02:23:33.120 Like, there's too many good athletes.

02:23:34.040 So, it's like.

02:23:35.360 But, like, A, if you would have gotten him in and, like, we would have thrown the ball,

02:23:37.820 he throws an interception.

02:23:38.600 It is what it is.

02:23:39.520 Like, we're, like, you're trying everything you can to not, like, oh, we're going to

02:23:42.720 lose this game.

02:23:43.360 But it's, like, the most important position we don't have.

02:23:46.600 Yeah.

02:23:47.160 Fuck.

02:23:47.440 It was so.

02:23:47.980 It's like playing chess.

02:23:48.760 You don't have a king.

02:23:49.980 Oh, you lost.

02:23:51.200 Yeah.

02:23:51.400 Like, I mean, the only other team I've seen do is the Denver Broncos during COVID.

02:23:54.240 They had all their quarterbacks had COVID.

02:23:55.700 And so, you put a wide receiver in, but they had a week to prepare, at least, or a couple

02:23:59.180 days, at least.

02:23:59.900 But it's just, like, what are you supposed to do?

02:24:02.040 Yeah.

02:24:02.660 Damn.

02:24:02.980 It was such a bummer, man.

02:24:03.860 I'm so sorry for you.

02:24:04.700 It wasn't even fun to watch.

02:24:05.760 No.

02:24:06.780 And, like, A, if you're an Eagles football player or an Eagles fan, probably loved it.

02:24:11.120 And good.

02:24:11.480 Like, you should.

02:24:12.200 I don't even think you love it.

02:24:13.620 I think if you love something like that, then you're sick, too.

02:24:16.700 Sure.

02:24:17.120 I'll give you that.

02:24:17.240 I would hate that, dude.

02:24:18.400 Well, like, they loved winning.

02:24:20.120 But, like, winning in that way is, like, it's not exciting.

02:24:22.380 Right.

02:24:22.660 Like, there's nothing, like, there's not really anything exciting about that.

02:24:25.780 No.

02:24:26.480 If you're cheering then or fuck.

02:24:28.280 Yeah.

02:24:28.460 It's like, sure, like, hey, you guys are scoring.

02:24:30.180 Like, they're winning the game and they're beating, like, yeah.

02:24:32.760 There's not much.

02:24:33.480 You're beating somebody who's, like, hands are tied behind their back.

02:24:36.220 And, like, hey, they won.

02:24:38.060 Yeah, totally.

02:24:38.620 You're not saying no, but I feel you.

02:24:40.260 No.

02:24:40.280 Like, at least it would have been an entertaining game.

02:24:42.300 Oh, yeah.

02:24:42.740 If, like, even if, like.

02:24:43.880 Well, they should take their quarterback out.

02:24:45.840 Both of them?

02:24:46.500 That'd be wild.

02:24:47.620 If they go.

02:24:48.580 Well, how about this?

02:24:49.180 That's insane.

02:24:49.840 I shouldn't even say that.

02:24:50.620 Do you think it's fair that the overtime team just goes to kick that field goal?

02:24:55.160 It seems kind of lame each time.

02:24:57.580 Like, for the win?

02:24:58.480 Yeah.

02:24:58.620 Well, that rule changed, like, five years ago.

02:25:00.020 Oh, it did?

02:25:00.640 Yeah.

02:25:00.920 So, like, good.

02:25:01.700 So, then it went to, like, you had to, if you score a touchdown, you automatically win.

02:25:04.880 And then this past season in the playoffs in overtime, both teams get a chance.

02:25:10.760 Oh, good.

02:25:11.140 Whether it's a touchdown or not.

02:25:12.020 Because I remember the Bills-Chiefs game from last year.

02:25:14.360 Yeah.

02:25:14.840 And it went back and forth.

02:25:15.660 And everyone's like, well, if the Bills, like, the offenses were so high-powered, if the Bills would

02:25:19.060 have gotten a shot, they would have gone out and scored.

02:25:20.540 And so, they changed the rule for the playoffs.

02:25:22.100 If that happened, that both teams get an opportunity at it.

02:25:25.000 Which was interesting to see.

02:25:26.440 Yeah.

02:25:26.780 I think it's more exciting.

02:25:27.840 It can make the game a little bit longer.

02:25:29.060 It definitely makes it more exciting as a fan.

02:25:30.480 I think, I mean, I think college has overtime perfect.

02:25:33.860 Oh, that's so much fun.

02:25:35.140 It's so much fun.

02:25:35.840 11th overtime.

02:25:36.740 Yeah.

02:25:37.100 It's 2 a.m.

02:25:38.060 And then, also, like, for the people watching, like, those touchdowns count.

02:25:42.280 And, like, there's multiple of those.

02:25:43.420 So, it's like, a guy could go and, like, what was, like, there was, like, an LSU Ole Miss

02:25:46.620 game that it was, like, tied, like, 17-17 and it ended 53-48 or something like that.

02:25:51.160 Or 53-47, something shit like that.

02:25:53.940 But it's like, a guy in that game, a wide receiver, like, at the end of the game, he

02:25:56.900 had, like, five catches for 60 yards and a touchdown.

02:25:59.080 At the end of the game, he had eight catches for four touchdowns and 100 yards.

02:26:04.440 It's just like, where did this come from?

02:26:05.880 It's a 4-over time.

02:26:06.380 So, I think the NFL should just start at the 35-yard line because then if you go

02:26:10.300 three and out, it's still a 52-yard kick.

02:26:11.800 Like, that's not easy.

02:26:13.120 Right?

02:26:13.540 52-yard, like, from the 35.

02:26:15.140 And just have him do it that way.

02:26:16.520 It'd be so much fun.

02:26:18.100 I mean, just, like, you're just taking shots for touchdowns at that point, man.

02:26:20.540 That'd be so sweet.

02:26:21.160 It'd be sick.

02:26:22.060 Dude, yeah.

02:26:22.660 That'd be a buy.

02:26:23.300 And, like, dude, the stats, too.

02:26:24.620 Like, fantasy football players, fantasy football guys would love that because, hey, now

02:26:28.540 Devontae Adams, at the end of overtime where he has 10 catches for 122 touchdowns,

02:26:32.640 now he has 14 catches for six touchdowns.

02:26:35.320 Like, they'd never, yeah, fantasy football guys would be crazy if they'd never even talk

02:26:38.660 to their wives anymore.

02:26:41.240 Do you think, and we'll get you out of here in a second, what was you were talking about,

02:26:47.320 like, oh, do you think that, who do you think will be all's quarterback next year?

02:26:56.240 Brock will get a fair shot at it, do you think?

02:26:57.760 Well, yeah, I mean, he hasn't lost a game yet.

02:27:00.420 Like, he got hurt at his fifth play of the game.

02:27:03.060 And so, like, he hasn't really lost a game yet.

02:27:04.920 He should get it.

02:27:05.680 Yeah, I mean, so.

02:27:06.240 But it's also a very competitive room over there, huh?

02:27:07.820 It's a super competitive room.

02:27:08.900 Well, right now, we don't, Trey Lance, I think he just got cleared.

02:27:12.020 So, like, he's out throwing and stuff again.

02:27:13.440 So, that's awesome.

02:27:14.100 I'm very happy for him.

02:27:15.000 Like, because he's a very, he's a very special talent who has the ability to be a very good

02:27:19.660 football player.

02:27:20.400 He just needs reps.

02:27:21.220 And, like, I, he just, he's young.

02:27:22.660 He hasn't played in a lot of football games.

02:27:23.580 He just needs reps.

02:27:24.120 Oh, yeah.

02:27:24.640 So, it'll be a good battle between them.

02:27:26.980 And Garoppolo, you'll still have him?

02:27:28.300 No, he's a free agent.

02:27:29.400 Oh, he's going to leave, probably.

02:27:30.280 Yeah, he's out.

02:27:31.320 Oh, dang.

02:27:32.060 Yeah, so, but, like, what I, like, I think it's a.

02:27:35.860 If Brady came back, would he be able to go to y'all or not?

02:27:38.520 Yeah, he's a free agent.

02:27:40.200 That'd be wild.

02:27:42.460 That'd be wild, huh?

02:27:43.740 Yeah, I mean, he's from the Bay.

02:27:45.100 He is?

02:27:45.740 He is from the Bay.

02:27:46.820 Wow.

02:27:47.020 That's crazy.

02:27:49.940 Interesting.

02:27:50.260 Anyways, but, um, Purdy, I, like I said, like, Purdy won eight games.

02:27:57.300 You can't, like, bench, you can't, you can't bench him.

02:27:59.840 So, I think it's a, it's a, it's a quarterback competition, I think, when you go into, and

02:28:04.120 again.

02:28:04.540 Dude, I can't win eight games doing, just even betting money a lot every week.

02:28:07.240 It's crazy.

02:28:08.020 But, like, and I, and again, like, he's hurt right now, right?

02:28:10.040 So, I think he just, I think he got surgery today, maybe, on his UCL, which is, like,

02:28:13.640 the ACL of your elbow, I guess.

02:28:14.980 Oh, they got a third one now?

02:28:16.080 It's crazy, dude.

02:28:16.980 Wild stuff.

02:28:17.640 Um, but, so, like, he has to recover from that, so, like, it's gonna be, it's gonna be

02:28:21.820 an interesting training camp to see how the reps are split and stuff like that.

02:28:25.140 It's gonna be exciting.

02:28:25.900 It will be exciting.

02:28:26.720 Yeah.

02:28:26.940 And that's my entire, my entire career, I've had QP controversy, so let's ride, dude, another

02:28:31.540 year of it, baby.

02:28:32.600 I love it.

02:28:33.120 That's exciting.

02:28:33.760 Bring it.

02:28:34.640 You, you, you, one last thing for you, Liv, I wanna get, you were talking about, like,

02:28:37.360 speaking things into, uh...

02:28:38.800 Existence.

02:28:39.200 Yeah, you wanted to bring it back that up.

02:28:41.260 Yeah, because you kind of talked about it, too, man.

02:28:42.420 It's interesting how little we, like, speak out into the world what we want.

02:28:45.900 Yeah.

02:28:46.160 Like, how, like, how often do, like, I'll sit and complain in my head or think about

02:28:50.560 things or worry, bro, all, for years.

02:28:53.280 Yeah.

02:28:53.540 But rarely will I say, this is what I fucking want, you know?

02:28:57.760 Yeah.

02:28:57.780 And say you're gonna do it.

02:28:58.740 Yeah.

02:28:59.180 So you're gonna get it.

02:28:59.960 Yeah.

02:29:00.220 Yeah, like, I'm big, like, I don't know if you journal very much, but I got big into

02:29:03.400 that this, literally, like, the last 12 months.

02:29:05.240 I met a former player who, uh, who kind of talked about how he did it, too.

02:29:09.340 And, like, just writing down, like, what you expect the season to be, like, what your goals

02:29:14.600 are, or writing about them in the past tense, too.

02:29:17.500 That was kind of a cool thing, too.

02:29:19.040 Like, take me, give me an example of that.

02:29:20.700 So, like, you could talk about winning the Super Bowl.

02:29:23.700 Or you could talk about, like...

02:29:24.840 Oh, like, I won the Super Bowl.

02:29:26.060 Yeah, and then you talk about confetti fall, and you talk about, like, and you speak it

02:29:29.240 into existence, like, there's a creativeness to it.

02:29:31.760 And so, like, it's kind of wild, because then once you see it, and you've...

02:29:34.360 It's kind of, like, the same as football.

02:29:35.500 Like, I do visualization a lot.

02:29:37.160 So, like, I rep the plays in my head.

02:29:39.220 And so then by the time I get to them in practice, or whether it's the game, I've already

02:29:42.200 done them in my head, like, 10 times.

02:29:43.820 So when you call the play, I have nothing to worry about, because I've already done it.

02:29:46.840 And so it's, like, speaking into existence, too.

02:29:48.860 It's, like, you visualize it happening.

02:29:50.960 And then so, like, I don't know if you speak it into existence, or you're, like, once the

02:29:54.180 moment comes, you're ready for it.

02:29:55.400 Well, it's really interesting, man.

02:29:56.600 It makes me think of EMDR.

02:29:58.500 You know, have you heard of this?

02:29:59.620 Maybe.

02:30:00.000 I don't know.

02:30:00.340 Explain it to me.

02:30:00.980 Can you bring it up?

02:30:04.680 I think my wife has called me.

02:30:06.940 So EMDR, Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing Therapy is a mental health treatment

02:30:14.520 technique.

02:30:15.200 The method involves moving your eyes.

02:30:17.360 Goal is to help you heal from trauma or other distress.

02:30:20.220 So anyway, what's interesting about EMDR is they take you back to times in your life.

02:30:24.180 That were traumatic for you.

02:30:26.640 And they, you, you, you talk through with a therapist to, to put a new experience into

02:30:36.600 that time of your life.

02:30:37.960 Yeah.

02:30:38.400 So then when you come out of the, the, the, like, modality or the, the experience of doing

02:30:45.720 EMDR, the therapy.

02:30:47.100 Yeah.

02:30:48.280 Then the past part of your life that was hurting you, it's now filled with a different

02:30:53.460 part of your life.

02:30:54.000 That's positive.

02:30:54.680 Yeah, for sure.

02:30:55.320 So where you are at now currently will eventually start to feel different because the past,

02:30:59.680 the popples have been filled in.

02:31:01.040 That's crazy.

02:31:01.540 So it's almost like a reverse of doing that, which you're saying.

02:31:05.480 Yeah, sure.

02:31:05.900 Like you're creating those right in the future.

02:31:08.400 And so then by the time you get to them, it's like, well, you're looking back on your

02:31:11.480 past.

02:31:11.820 You're writing into your own past that hasn't even happened yet.

02:31:15.080 Yeah.

02:31:15.420 You're writing your own past and saying these things happen.

02:31:18.140 It's wild.

02:31:18.640 And like, I, yeah, like, and I, I did it every single day for the entire season.

02:31:22.580 Wow.

02:31:23.000 It's wild.

02:31:23.340 And whether you're writing, like, whether your goals are personally for the season,

02:31:25.780 whether it's goals, like whatever it is, but like kind of talking about it in a

02:31:28.860 past sense, it was, it's really weird.

02:31:30.900 Like it's like to get used to writing like that.

02:31:33.140 It's because I've never done anything like that before.

02:31:34.700 And so like, that was a different experience for me.

02:31:37.140 Um, but you're talking about like that type of therapy.

02:31:39.440 Have you seen the type of therapy?

02:31:40.820 That's like, let's just say you have like, you go to therapy right now and like

02:31:44.820 everyone has certain traumas in their life and the theory, I can't remember exactly

02:31:48.860 what it's called, but it's like, like, so 10 year old, you something happened.

02:31:54.580 Right.

02:31:55.020 And like that version of you, like that version of you, like the state that you went into,

02:31:59.460 you'd like to recover from that is still a part of your personality and right.

02:32:03.140 So like, whether it's like, and like how you manage with it.

02:32:05.300 So like, okay, let me, let's just say you're 10 years is bad.

02:32:08.420 Let's say like you're a 25 year old and some bad happens and you turn to drinking or something

02:32:11.320 like that.

02:32:11.640 Right.

02:32:12.560 And whenever something bad happens to you, you kind of go back to that, right?

02:32:15.240 You go back to that.

02:32:16.000 And cause like, that's your therapy for it.

02:32:17.420 So like this goes into, you've kind of revisit, you have a conversation with that 25 year old

02:32:22.140 you.

02:32:22.600 Okay.

02:32:23.280 And you're like, and then you try to get them to accept it because like you have these different

02:32:27.540 parts of you inside of you, like for these different experiences, whether it's like you

02:32:31.400 have like that type of experience or like, I don't know, I'm trying to explain it the

02:32:34.620 best way I can, but it's like, you have to have these conversations with this old past

02:32:38.240 of you to kind of let go.

02:32:39.600 And like, you kind of hold onto stuff.

02:32:41.020 Ah, interesting.

02:32:41.640 So you're going back to like an injured part of you or an injured part of you.

02:32:44.780 And you're trying to help them get through it because like, you can't talk to it.

02:32:47.460 Like it's just say you had a bad call.

02:32:49.480 Let's say you had a really bad experience in college, like with a coach or something like that.

02:32:52.220 And they like verbally abused you.

02:32:53.420 Right.

02:32:53.660 And like that part of you is like still there.

02:32:55.820 Like it's, it is still there.

02:32:56.920 And like, so you go to therapy, you talk about it, but like, if you just kind of hold onto

02:32:59.340 it, that part of you is always still kind of like at this dark anger.

02:33:02.520 And so you have to kind of go back there and talk to them and like, talk to that 18 year

02:33:07.280 old self.

02:33:08.080 Right.

02:33:08.420 Like almost making amends.

02:33:10.120 Yeah.

02:33:10.440 With your, or like guiding them to the light, maybe sort of, but like, just kind of let

02:33:13.940 go of that anger.

02:33:14.460 Cause if you never talked about it, just kind of holding on.

02:33:16.180 Like you can push stuff down for so long, but like at some point you got to address it.

02:33:22.420 Yeah.

02:33:22.760 It says trauma can freeze your emotional response at the age you experienced it.

02:33:26.040 When you feel or act emotionally younger than your actual age, this is known as age regression.

02:33:30.220 Well, it's even the same as almost as EMDR.

02:33:32.160 It's like going back into a specific time.

02:33:33.820 That's what reminded me of it.

02:33:34.540 And I was like, cause I don't know my dad talked to me about that.

02:33:36.400 It's just like a type of therapy you can do like to overcome like traumatizing events

02:33:40.060 that happened to you.

02:33:40.600 And I was, it was a very like, I thought about it and I was like, that actually makes sense

02:33:43.880 to me.

02:33:44.360 Well, your dad is really interesting, man.

02:33:45.760 I've seen some of the episodes where he's like doing, um, hidden pearls.

02:33:49.480 You said it's hidden pearls where he'll do like, he's like doing, uh, his mindful

02:33:53.500 Mondays, which is fun.

02:33:54.620 Yeah.

02:33:54.780 Mindful.

02:33:55.260 Just like kind of like taking you through an experience.

02:33:58.040 Um, you can just see how it's part of his, you guys, his whole world, all that stuff.

02:34:02.940 He's big into that, like breathing, visualizing.

02:34:05.940 Um, it just, it helps dude.

02:34:07.420 Like when you just can take a second to yourself and like, just kind of breathe and like, just

02:34:11.640 be one with whether it's your breath or just like your own thoughts or something like that.

02:34:15.200 Cause most of the time we're like, we're all, man, we're like this, you're on your phone,

02:34:19.840 you're watching TV, you're looking at opinions of other people, but like not too often are you

02:34:23.160 just kind of sitting there like, ah, and like just having that conversation with yourself.

02:34:28.620 Cause you kind of need to, man.

02:34:30.100 Like if you, if you, if you don't like, then you're not really progressing as a human.

02:34:34.040 You're just kind of absorbing everyone else's information.

02:34:35.960 And then like, is that who you are these days?

02:34:37.880 Or do you want to be your own person?

02:34:39.600 And it's, what's really interesting, George, is that they've created.

02:34:42.220 It's so hard.

02:34:43.200 It's so addictive.

02:34:44.160 They've mastered the, uh, the, our attention.

02:34:46.800 Social media is amazing.

02:34:47.800 They've mastered the art of taking our attention.

02:34:49.820 It's incredible.

02:34:50.240 Like Tik TOK videos, man, you can go to rabbit hole for two hours and not even blink.

02:34:53.740 Oh, you don't even know who you are.

02:34:54.840 You come out, you're fucking child's in the middle school.

02:34:57.280 Yeah, I'm like, what just happened?

02:34:59.420 Like, where is going on?

02:35:01.200 Where am I?

02:35:01.740 It's funny.

02:35:02.120 I was watching, uh, Chris Rock's new special last night.

02:35:04.560 Oh, I haven't seen it yet.

02:35:05.240 Is it good?

02:35:05.620 It is cool, man.

02:35:06.660 I didn't watch all of it, but he's, he talks about your attention.

02:35:10.020 That's the number one thing that, um, that people are after these days.

02:35:14.820 Yeah.

02:35:15.040 That sounds about raise your attention.

02:35:16.380 Whatever you put your attention into is how your life changes.

02:35:18.840 I know.

02:35:19.240 So it's funny when I think of my, when I think of my head that I'm always, I'm constantly overwhelmed

02:35:25.640 by different thoughts and I feel sporadic and I can't keep, uh, my attention span on anything.

02:35:30.060 But then when I look at what, uh, uh, uh, uh, tick tock is, it's literally what, oh, this

02:35:36.840 is just a thing of what I am.

02:35:38.560 It's just like a bunch of thoughts.

02:35:40.520 Everything seems kind of disorganized.

02:35:42.200 It's all in one place, but it's fucking feels, I mean, if you saw tick tock, you would give

02:35:47.180 it a antidepressant.

02:35:49.840 Yeah, dude, it's not tick tock.

02:35:51.360 Like this, this is how social media, like in captures you.

02:35:54.620 Like, I mean, wife always yells at me, like, I'll go sit on the toilet and you won't come

02:35:58.720 back, dude, you're 30 minutes later.

02:36:00.380 Like, what just happened?

02:36:02.540 Oh my God, where was it?

02:36:05.060 Why are my legs asleep?

02:36:05.960 Like, what just, what has happened?

02:36:07.400 Like, what?

02:36:08.180 Goodness gracious.

02:36:08.800 But it's just like, you can just get lost in those things.

02:36:11.080 So like, I refuse to get an Apple watch because why do I need a phone on my wrist if I have

02:36:14.520 one in my pocket?

02:36:15.240 Oh, it's crazy.

02:36:16.100 It's crazy.

02:36:16.660 I watched somebody have a fight the other day with their son on an Apple watch through

02:36:19.280 texting or something.

02:36:20.080 It took them like an hour and a half to even have the fight.

02:36:22.500 And it was the guys doing all this shit.

02:36:24.160 It was unbelievable.

02:36:25.400 I've seen guys on my team that wear Apple watches out to like walk through practices

02:36:28.580 and like, you're not in helmet, you're not like, it's like, it's just learning like

02:36:31.580 plays and stuff.

02:36:32.280 But like, they'll have it on and like, I'll be in the huddle and guy next, he'll be

02:36:35.140 like, you know, I'll heal vibration.

02:36:37.420 He'll look.

02:36:37.760 I'm like, what are you like?

02:36:38.720 Are you on your phone at a walkthrough?

02:36:40.120 I like, what are you doing?

02:36:41.220 He goes, uh, I just, it tracks my heart rate.

02:36:43.240 Why do you need to track your heart rate right now, dude?

02:36:45.600 You're jogging, like relax, like take your Apple watch off, disconnect for a little bit.

02:36:49.800 It's okay.

02:36:50.680 Like, see, I have a calculator on my watch.

02:36:53.060 Oh, you got that old school Casio.

02:36:55.300 Amazon.

02:36:56.220 I love it.

02:36:56.820 They have it on there.

02:36:57.460 Yeah.

02:36:57.880 Dude.

02:36:58.260 So get this.

02:36:59.140 This was $30.

02:37:00.340 I bought an Amazon and I, I, I've worn the entire season.

02:37:03.720 I love it.

02:37:04.340 I like kind of, I talked about like on a podcast one time I went back to Amazon to buy

02:37:07.740 another one.

02:37:08.020 Cause I forgot.

02:37:08.500 I thought I lost this one, $80.

02:37:10.160 So I don't know if I'm just hyping them up for some reason or something like that, but

02:37:13.260 yeah, 80.

02:37:13.960 So it's 80 bucks, but it's still like, that's a pretty good price for a gold watch.

02:37:17.240 Yeah, it is.

02:37:17.760 But still, I feel like it, it almost seems sometimes I feel like it knows what you've

02:37:21.680 been shopping for and if you shop for something expensive recently, it will make tickets more

02:37:26.120 expensive for you for things.

02:37:27.720 I mean, like I'll talk, you'll talk about, Hey, I need deodorant and $70.

02:37:33.520 I scroll through, I scroll through Instagram and the third, there's an ad and it's for old

02:37:37.460 spice.

02:37:37.700 I'm like, yeah, what the heck?

02:37:39.500 I talked about this 10 minutes ago.

02:37:40.900 Why is there, it's just listening to dog.

02:37:42.820 Or if you even think about killing your cousin or something and the fucking next thing, you

02:37:46.120 know, it's just all hammers.

02:37:47.640 Dude, it's crazy.

02:37:49.680 Even having an Apple watches.

02:37:51.080 So it's like, it'll tell you now, like you just coughed and you're so the dude's like,

02:37:55.360 Oh, it has coughed.

02:37:56.220 You know, it just like, do you need a, yeah.

02:37:58.260 Do you need day quill lunch belch in 30 seconds?

02:38:01.200 Yeah.

02:38:01.400 It's dude's nuts, man.

02:38:02.680 It's too much, man.

02:38:03.720 Yeah.

02:38:03.900 Cause I like wore, I wore one.

02:38:05.240 I didn't get an Apple watch, but I wore the Garmin watch that like tracks a lot of your

02:38:07.800 stuff and like, like a lot of triathlon runners run it.

02:38:10.360 Cause like they have to know all their stuff all the time.

02:38:12.360 And I was just like, after a while, I was like, you know what?

02:38:14.840 The only thing I really care about is like, I like seeing my sleep.

02:38:17.400 So like I have that, the aura ring stuff and I like seeing my sleep because I either there's

02:38:22.760 like, it tells you how long you slept.

02:38:24.580 It tells you how well you slept.

02:38:26.460 And right.

02:38:27.000 So this is my mindset.

02:38:27.880 So like, whether if I get like green in one of those areas, Hey, I'm going to have a good

02:38:32.840 day.

02:38:33.080 Cause whether if, let's say I got seven hours of sleep and that's red, but I, hey, 90% of

02:38:37.480 it was super good, deep sleep.

02:38:38.660 And I was healthy.

02:38:39.680 You're like, okay, I'm gonna have a great day today.

02:38:41.540 Or if they're both in the red, my mindset is now, all right, I didn't give myself a

02:38:46.220 good advantage today.

02:38:47.000 So I got to try a little bit harder today because it's going to be a harder day.

02:38:49.820 Cause I didn't sleep well and I didn't get a lot of hours.

02:38:51.720 And so like, that's like, people are like, well, I don't like to see them.

02:38:54.080 Like, why?

02:38:54.740 It's just another challenge that you get accomplished today.

02:38:56.900 Well, that's a, I mean, I think that almost sums up just your entire approach, man.

02:39:00.320 You're lucky that you are not lucky.

02:39:01.880 I mean, obviously, you know, a lot of it comes from your own family experience and some, maybe

02:39:06.160 some of your parents' influence and stuff.

02:39:07.760 But cause a lot of people, I get that number, I'd see that 60 out of 100 or whatever.

02:39:13.860 Fuck.

02:39:14.260 I'd start texting, fuck you to everybody right out of the gate, you know?

02:39:17.520 And I'd even text myself, fuck you.

02:39:19.220 I feel you.

02:39:19.880 No, I don't know, dude.

02:39:21.360 But then I would let it ruin me as opposed to me saying, okay, today's gonna be a little

02:39:26.880 bit more of a challenge.

02:39:27.780 It's an uphill challenge, guys.

02:39:28.820 It's uphill, boy.

02:39:29.600 It's uphill, like, so, I mean, when you're in, like, like right now I'm in the off season,

02:39:33.600 right?

02:39:33.780 So like one, my competitive, my competitive switch is much lower than when I'm in season.

02:39:39.420 Um, but like when you're in season and it's a Tuesday night and I have to wake up and I

02:39:44.860 have like, I have six hours of meetings before I go do a walkthrough.

02:39:47.640 And then I have to go do a practice of plays that I learned at 8 AM that morning and have

02:39:51.940 to study those plays before practice.

02:39:53.520 Like those six hours, like I can't be off.

02:39:56.640 Right.

02:39:56.960 Like that's, I can't be, like, I can't let my guy, I can't let the guy next to me down.

02:39:59.820 And I'm, I, my expectation for him is that he's doing everything he can to be as prepared

02:40:02.460 as he can.

02:40:02.900 So like, you don't have enough, you don't have an option to be off.

02:40:05.700 And so like, that's how I, that, so you have to find different ways to encourage yourself.

02:40:09.000 And so, Hey, I had it.

02:40:10.480 Hey, I slept eight hours and it's good.

02:40:12.680 I'm gonna have a great day today.

02:40:14.080 Or if it's one's bad, one's good.

02:40:16.080 Hey, one of them's green.

02:40:17.080 I'm going to be great.

02:40:17.580 And then the last one's like, all right, well, I'm just going to kick my own ass today.

02:40:20.040 Like bring it.

02:40:20.840 And like, it's like, that's, that's what my mind is.

02:40:22.720 It has to be now off season.

02:40:24.320 Yeah.

02:40:24.600 I might bitch him on a little bit more, but like, it is what it is.

02:40:27.440 Like I only have so many off days as like, I only have so many days anyways.

02:40:30.260 So like, I'm going to, I'm just going to keep going.

02:40:32.380 Yeah.

02:40:33.080 I think you got to give yourself some breaks here and there.

02:40:35.520 I mean, even if you don't, even if you have a job that doesn't really even allow that

02:40:38.720 many, you know, and you know, you're going to take them when you can get them.

02:40:41.400 It's a high con it's a high competition level.

02:40:43.380 You're in, it's a high competition profession.

02:40:46.000 Yeah.

02:40:46.240 You got to take them when you can get them, man.

02:40:47.700 Well, I'm going to, um, say thank you for coming and I appreciate it, dude.

02:40:53.240 And it's, uh, it's, it's been exciting just to hear about just some of your thoughts and

02:40:58.260 get to know you a little bit better.

02:40:59.820 And, um, yeah, I'm so happy for you and your success.

02:41:03.800 Thank you.

02:41:04.500 And, oh, tell us about tightening you.

02:41:06.000 I wanted to hear about it.

02:41:06.860 Oh yeah.

02:41:07.060 Cause last year I heard tightening you was going on.

02:41:08.940 Right.

02:41:09.200 And I fucking wanted to meet everybody, but Jeremy Holt didn't text me back.

02:41:13.780 So I literally parked in the parking lot where you guys were practicing.

02:41:18.280 Vanderbilt.

02:41:18.600 Oh, Drake had texted me, right?

02:41:20.060 Yeah.

02:41:20.220 Drake was the ball boy.

02:41:21.080 At Lipscomb.

02:41:21.720 Although it was two years ago.

02:41:22.700 Yeah.

02:41:22.820 At Lipscomb.

02:41:23.180 Oh, two years ago at Lipscomb.

02:41:24.520 So yeah, I'm like, you could have showed up, man.

02:41:26.260 I would have gotten you in.

02:41:26.940 Oh, well fuck.

02:41:27.560 Honestly, dude, I may have been outside of some other conference because I was there.

02:41:31.880 I was there at Lipscomb this year, dude.

02:41:34.340 No joke, bro.

02:41:35.380 I'm not even joking.

02:41:35.860 We were at Vanderbilt.

02:41:36.360 We were at Vanderbilt this year.

02:41:37.280 Y'all were really?

02:41:37.780 Yeah.

02:41:38.320 Oh God.

02:41:39.060 Yeah.

02:41:39.200 Then it was something else going on.

02:41:40.820 But, but I was texting though.

02:41:43.700 I was texting Jeremy.

02:41:44.660 I was texting Drake.

02:41:45.480 They said we were in a place where they couldn't get good reception.

02:41:47.420 Right.

02:41:47.820 Yeah, for sure.

02:41:48.660 But I was outside of a group of men who were like just stretching.

02:41:52.080 And I was like, just kind of being sad in my truck outside of Lipscomb.

02:41:55.420 But, um, cause I wanted to come up and just like, just be around and just see what was going on.

02:42:00.260 Yeah.

02:42:00.380 You want to come through this year?

02:42:01.320 Yeah, man.

02:42:01.980 June 20th is our welcome party.

02:42:03.920 It's on a Tuesday night.

02:42:04.760 Okay.

02:42:05.340 So it's our welcome party.

02:42:06.460 It's at the top of the Thompson hotel.

02:42:08.360 Ooh, nice.

02:42:09.020 And it's really fun.

02:42:09.920 Um, yeah, all the Titans are up there.

02:42:12.160 Uh, it's just literally, it's just getting no guys that are around.

02:42:14.660 It's really, it's a fun event.

02:42:15.900 And then Wednesday, Thursday is on the field stuff at Vanderbilt.

02:42:18.700 And then Wednesday night, we have like a function, uh, somewhere on Broadway and then maybe

02:42:23.500 1230 club or something like that.

02:42:24.660 We're working on the details and then, uh, Thursday is a work day and then, but it's like,

02:42:28.900 it's really, it's really fun.

02:42:29.860 But yeah, if you want to swing through for, you know, Wednesday, the Tuesday night thing

02:42:32.460 or more than welcome to.

02:42:34.340 Yeah.

02:42:34.660 That'd be cool, man.

02:42:35.300 You got an end now.

02:42:36.040 Well, I don't want to invite now.

02:42:36.920 I feel bad.

02:42:37.260 Like I invited myself.

02:42:38.180 You didn't man.

02:42:38.860 Drake invited you.

02:42:39.780 Okay.

02:42:40.040 Great.

02:42:40.740 Yeah.

02:42:41.000 Jimmy John does.

02:42:42.040 Uh, he was on this podcast.

02:42:43.180 Jimmy John Lieto.

02:42:44.260 He's a member of 1230 club.

02:42:45.840 Yeah.

02:42:46.040 Yeah.

02:42:46.260 No, I met.

02:42:46.720 So there was, uh, I told my mother-in-law, she works for the NFL honor, uh, NFL hall of

02:42:51.480 fame health and they have an event and it's at the 1230 club and it's there again this year.

02:42:55.680 But this is funny.

02:42:57.100 So they were auctioning off footballs and there's like, I think there was like six to 10 NFL guys

02:43:00.680 that were there, but, uh, one of the footballs that got auctioned off, he bought it and it was

02:43:05.960 signed by, um, Eddie George and George Kittle.

02:43:09.220 Oh, cool.

02:43:09.840 It's probably the only football ever signed by us too.

02:43:12.200 But the fact that his last name is my first name, I just, you don't see that very often,

02:43:16.160 but I thought that was pretty funny.

02:43:17.280 But yeah, I met him at that event.

02:43:18.700 It was pretty funny.

02:43:19.840 Yeah.

02:43:20.200 That's, I guess that's kind of interesting, I guess, but.

02:43:23.600 It doesn't excite you too much though.

02:43:24.780 It doesn't excite me too much, but it has nothing to do.

02:43:27.440 I mean, I just.

02:43:28.500 George isn't a very common name.

02:43:29.680 So when I see other people with it, it excites me.

02:43:31.600 I guess that's true.

02:43:32.540 And that's very fair actually.

02:43:34.060 And I shouldn't have said that.

02:43:35.260 Thank you.

02:43:35.500 I feel bad about myself.

02:43:36.940 Yeah.

02:43:37.100 I don't want to do this anymore.

02:43:38.020 Will you guys cut the entire thing?

02:43:39.860 But is George still a pop?

02:43:42.360 George isn't that popular of a name anymore, is it?

02:43:44.720 No, it's old.

02:43:45.360 Everyone's like, when I was George and I was eight years old, I was like, you're an old

02:43:47.820 man.

02:43:48.520 No, I'm not.

02:43:50.360 I'm a real boy.

02:43:53.520 People are like, fuck old people.

02:43:55.300 Yeah.

02:43:55.500 I'm like, leave me alone.

02:43:56.380 I'm not 50.

02:43:57.200 Yeah.

02:43:57.360 You're like, I'm in hospice.

02:43:58.840 People are fucking giving.

02:44:01.700 George is most popular in the Western industry.

02:44:03.860 He was ranked in the top 200 most popular name since its origin.

02:44:06.380 Origin.

02:44:06.700 I believe that.

02:44:07.900 Both of my great grandpas were named George, and that's why I'm named George.

02:44:10.760 Tough.

02:44:11.160 My parents told me that if I was a girl, they would have named me Georgia.

02:44:14.040 I don't think that's a very good name.

02:44:15.100 Nothing against those people out there named Georgia.

02:44:16.760 Just not for me.

02:44:17.880 Yeah.

02:44:18.520 I feel you.

02:44:19.040 Or Eddie Georgia.

02:44:20.040 That's insane.

02:44:20.900 Oh, dude.

02:44:21.540 Eddie Georgia.

02:44:22.880 Dude's got two first names.

02:44:24.020 George Kittle, man.

02:44:27.380 Best of luck in your next season, man.

02:44:28.620 Enjoy your time.

02:44:29.380 Welcome back home.

02:44:30.640 Oh, dude.

02:44:30.940 And enjoy your time.

02:44:32.600 I'll see you at Lipscomb.

02:44:33.220 And your off-season praise, baby.

02:44:34.700 Oh, thank you so much.

02:44:35.400 It's been a pleasure.

02:44:36.000 This is really fun.

02:44:37.000 Yeah, it's been fun, man.

02:44:37.700 Thank you.

02:44:38.400 Cool.

02:44:38.600 Now, I'm just floating on the breeze, and I feel I'm falling like these leaves.

02:44:44.800 I must be cornerstone.

02:44:49.960 Oh, but when I reach that ground, I'll share this peace of mind I found.

02:44:55.520 I can feel it in my bones.

02:44:59.780 But it's gonna take a little time.

02:45:03.580 I can feel it in my bones.

This Past Weekend with Theo Von - March 14, 2023

E435 George Kittle

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