E448 Roseanne
Episode Stats
Length
2 hours and 36 minutes
Words per Minute
184.53996
Hate Speech Sentences
154
Summary
Comedian Roseanne Barr joins Joe Rogan on the Mothership in Austin, Texas to talk about her new album, Roseanne's love of the Tom Fords, and how she got to where she is today.
Transcript
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Today, we are here at the Mothership, the Comedy Mothership in Austin, Texas.
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And I'm sitting here, or about to be sitting here, with one of the most iconic comedians.
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She is a damn, she is a forest fire with ovaries on her.
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Her ability to entertain over the years is unmatched.
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I'm grateful to get to spend time with her today, here at Joe Rogan's Comedy Mothership,
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We both found that out when we saw each other last couple weeks here.
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He don't even wear them around in real life like I do.
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It's like, I gotta wear the Tom Fords on stage.
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I just wear them around because they're so fucking cool.
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But I've had these for five years, so they're out of time.
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Because I could also see you ride in a car with some guy who gets his head blown off.
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If the last thought was, she had something to do with this, I'm sure.
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This is a friend of mine that makes these clothes.
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And she does, like, real good fabric from, you know, all over the world.
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Good French linen and shit like that, if you care.
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And she embroidered her stuff and put some wacky stuff together.
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You know, you want to dress up to have your friends over for a luncheon.
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You know, that kind of stuff you didn't have time for when you was young and trying to hustle for the bucks, you know.
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You're kind of developing your old lady style, you know.
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When I was 12 up in my room and I was doing Janis Joplin, singing over them records, you know.
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And I had a dress of like her or what have you.
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Yeah, I guess there is a nice thing about whenever you get to a good age, as we get a little bit older, we get to you kind of like the pressures of society and stuff.
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It's like you realize maybe there wasn't a ton of value in it or just the years of being like that racehorse.
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You kind of like now you get to kind of hang out in the pasture a little more, kind of eat some grass, enjoy yourself.
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Well, I think you get to be a little bit more introspective and creative in your thinking, you know.
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You can just fuck with it and go with it, you know.
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But you just got a little more time to be valuable with like weighing thoughts and, you know, trying to come up with something funny.
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You're just being more creative, more faith in your own creativity, too, the older you get.
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And you're not so harassed and running ragged trying to get there.
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Yeah, it's like recently I've been feeling sometimes like I'm so busy.
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My brain doesn't have as much space to be as creative as I would like to sometimes.
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It doesn't bum me out, but it's like I really have to make a strong effort to find more space, you know, to not be just affected or influenced by things.
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Just so I can like, you know, just so I can daydream kind of.
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Yeah, I think it's interesting as you get older, like what kind of things you start to think about what are important, especially after you get out a little bit of the rat race, you know?
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Yeah, because you find out the rat race is a real thing and the rats with the sharpest teeth win.
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And so who wants to be part of that when you don't have to, you know?
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I mean, for a long time you have to, if you're going to go, but after you went, you're kind of like, hey, I'm going to take a break on that shit.
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I'm going to kind of try to get rid of a few of them rats.
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Have some time where I can walk around barefoot and not have my toes chewed on.
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It is, but it's what propels you to, it kind of keeps you going because you're like, oh, yeah, you're going to block me here.
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Like you're kind of like a mental football player or boxer, you know?
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Which is why I love boxing, why I like watching Tyson, why I like to watch and Mike all the mirrors.
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But, you know, because it's like instinct and reflex all together and then having this real clear channel of like, I got to get over you and around you and how am I going to do it?
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Well, I'm prepared because I already did it 1,500 times just trying to stay alive while you was trying to suck my blood.
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And then wherever you're focusing in, you just keep kind of developing ways to get better at it.
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It's interesting how much business acumen you have to pick up along the way.
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And especially as comedians, you're already kind of, I think a lot of comedians are untrusting of the world.
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You start out so trusting, like, oh, humor will bring us together and I have a gift and I can make people laugh.
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You think, I'm going to finally get all the love I never got when you was beating my ass and these people like me.
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You're giving me $2 and I'm making, what, $10,000 an hour for you?
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You're like, I'm fucking writing jokes at the ass.
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You know, I just get up in the morning and I've written 15 jokes by the time I get downstairs.
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But you don't know nothing about, you know, like I like hearing rappers talk about.
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I mean, some stuff Kanye said, he was like, you know, I think he was trying to come from a place where he was angry, I don't know, at the system at Hollywood.
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It's like, I mean, I think he also was suffering probably from some mental issues, you know, like.
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You think marrying Kim Kardashian was any kind of symptom of that?
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And he toured for a while with like a Sunday service.
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So there's kind of a, like, I'm a God type of, you know, that's an interesting thing to do.
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Well, it's that messianic force that all of us have, you know, that are trying to say something like rappers and comics and songwriters, singers, we're all on that.
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We're in that messianic force where, you know, we're compelled to say something that makes somebody hear us and makes it better.
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I mean, we imagine it makes it better or it just makes us feel better or whatever.
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We're adding something good to the collective pot of gold at the end of the dream rainbow, you know.
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But then when you actually get into it, plus having bipolar and all the other shit, and I got all that and more.
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But, yeah, you can go wrong if your meds fuck up on you.
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You'd think they'd send a big chart home with you.
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First of all, the information on the pill bottles, it's like a lot could go wrong here.
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Even with my amplified glasses, I can't even see it.
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It's not like I'm going to go off the meds and then, good God, look out world.
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Well, they wanted to get, you know, they wanted to fuck with the bull.
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Even though I'm a girl, I'm kind of a bull, I guess you could say.
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I could see you're probably the kind of woman, it's like, you're a, you know, you, you bring
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And a lot of me is like, like an out of control three-year-old.
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Like, I'm a child every day, like, and I have to take care of myself like a child.
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I have to do all these little things for myself to make sure that I'm okay, you know?
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I have to, I have to write a list to remember what to do because my shit is so haphazard
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If I don't stick to this everyday list, which includes wash your face, brush your teeth,
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like, you know, prep up yourself for, so people can stand to be around you.
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If I don't do those basic things and I'm not, it's not my instinct to do them.
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My instinct is to hop out of bed, start smoking and drinking and, you know.
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And throw a fucking javelin at a neighbor, kind of, you know?
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Well, I don't want to hit them, but I want to fucking let them know I'm still living next
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We live in this apartment complex and, yeah, I can relate to the same thing.
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My mother, I remember, my mother, the night before, I remember being, like, seven years
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of my mom would be like, do you want me to wake you up for school tomorrow?
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And I'm like, how in the fuck else would I even get up?
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Yeah, she would just put that kind of, like, immediately the world was just, you are, you
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But sometimes she'd be like, do you want me to wake you up for school tomorrow?
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But it wasn't like, all right, guys, I'll get you guys all up.
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So, it was weird because you had this, you made this adult decision, do I want my mom
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But I just felt like it was such a strange thing for her to ask.
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But you know that there was no way for you to say, no, I'll just sleep in.
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So, it was just a strange, it was like something you'd ask a roommate kind of, but there was
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always that adult thing from my, like, I remember I told her, you know, that somebody said there's
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And she goes, well, do you feel like you want to spend time with them?
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She'd be like, do you, you know, she kind of put it on you in a way.
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Like, do you, what choice do you want to make here, you know?
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I always felt like that was like, I think growing up, it was like, what choice do you want to make here, you know?
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So, then in the end, part of me, I'm coming back to what you're saying, is like, I felt
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so much responsibility all the time at a young age.
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So, then sometimes I think as I've gotten older, I'm just tired of doing all these things
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that should have probably been helped with me at a younger age.
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Sometimes I feel like some of those things weren't my responsibility or they didn't get
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I'm taking care of myself, taking care of myself, making sure, you know, my teeth are brushed.
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I mean, I do all those things now, but it's like, I have to have a real checklist of, okay,
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this is what you do to make sure you're not a baby today, kind of.
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But, yeah, she should have just go, I'll wake you up in the morning, right?
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She probably thought she was empowering you because, you know, they were telling parents
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to do that, that that was a good way to raise your kids is to have them make choices
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But I guess that's what she probably was part of that whole thing.
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I think she grew up, she was Midwestern and I think she, just a hard worker, you know,
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I think there wasn't a lot of feelings back then maybe between families as much as now
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people are, you know, now we have a lot more time and everybody's like, we're all more in
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And so society's kind of changed like that, but I don't know what it was like when she
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So, oh, she didn't, she got the, let me think about that.
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It's, well, I remember back then people would have like nine kids cause some of them didn't
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That's like, I mean, that's like animals do that.
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So I think things were a little bit more animalistic back then probably.
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Well, I think they were probably just purely utilitarian.
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You know, not so much, Laura, you really got a lot of choices.
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It was almost like a blessing if you had enough, you know, or like a, I don't know.
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I mean, everybody would care about their children and stuff, but I wonder how much that's changed
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Well, now it's gotten so insular that the kids are just all fucked up.
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Oh, it's gotten really, really, it's gotten pretty out there.
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Did, um, whenever you kind of got, were you kind of shocked by like whenever you got
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like canceled by Hollywood or whatever the term is, right?
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But whenever they like, they didn't even take into account like all that you had done
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for like women in comedy or any, I mean, that's really weird.
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The first show that I had the first, uh, you know, gay characters and the first gay kiss
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I remember yelling at my mom, Hey mom, gays are okay.
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They didn't take any of that into account at all, but I, maybe they did take it into account
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Cause you know, I did break rules and they always hated me for it.
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Whether they agreed with them or not, they still hate a rule breaker or somebody who thinks
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and, you know, after, uh, working there for nine years in a big cement building with no
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And, uh, so seeing the ins and outs of weekly stuff for nine years, um, you just learn stuff.
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They don't, they just want stuff to go smoothly.
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Even if you're the author, they don't know what's funny.
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And if, if something makes them laugh out loud, they think that that's bad.
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They, they think, oh, well, but it's their arrogance.
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Cause they're like, well, the people at home are such bigots and idiots.
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They're like the super conscience, the super conscious or whatever you say it, super conscience
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of people they really look down on that they imagine they know how they think.
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Well, it's, it's, you know, I'm hoping that someone creates an app, right?
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Where you can look at a business and decide, and you'll know who the business, like their
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owners, who the, who they support, like where they put their political funds.
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So then as a, as a buyer of something, uh, uh, what's it called?
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Then you can say, okay, I'm going to put my money cause all they're only have money
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So it's like, if you could start adjust the other end of the spectrum where now you get
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to put your money almost as if where they get to put their money onto like in different,
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Now you get to put your money into, you'll know by looking at an app.
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This business footlocker, they like this and this and this, I support that.
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I'm going to support, I'm going to spend my money there or Joe's shoes.
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They like this and this and this, I support that.
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You should be able to put that when you buy their product, say, I don't approve of this
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You're a given money to, so don't use any amount of my money to go toward that.
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So, you know, whatever percentage of my money you're siphoning off.
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Or you could put into the app in the beginning.
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These are the things that I kind of believe in.
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And like, these are kind of my core beliefs that I think are helpful in society that I
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And then the app could show you, well, these are 40 businesses that.
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That way we're going to, the, the, that way we have the, it's where we're putting our
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You know, that way we're not paying for somebody to kill us.
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We're not bearing the cost of our own destruction because that's how they're doing it.
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But do you think there are big forces at play that kind of run this whole thing?
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Or do you think it's just business and that is just the byproduct of like, you know, of,
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Cause we didn't change it yet, but the smarter we get and realize, Hey, that's just going
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And I, I think we'll get smart like that pretty soon to go, Hey, we shouldn't be poisoning
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Cause they're just so, um, fixated on the money and nothing else.
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The short, they, they like the short term, the, the, uh, instant gratification thing,
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I think Americans are going to figure that out.
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I think that's why I'm doing, you know, I'm doing my own podcast now.
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And that's why I'm doing it to just go, how, how are we going to survive what's coming?
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And how come all y'all don't know what's coming?
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You can't see what's right in front of your face, but you, you know, all the queen of England's
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People, they want to know about it, you know, but I mean, and they'll sit around and they can name
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everyone on these soap operas, the housewives of, and all their family business say, um,
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Well, it's interesting because comedians, you at least like have a brain from out of
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the gate somehow that was formulated to kind of look at things and get, you know, like
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I start to notice that as I get older, I thought we were all kind of the same when I was young
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and then I start to realize, oh, some of my friends or people that, you know, I was around
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when I was younger, they just have a, their mindset is more comfortable to send like without,
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sometimes it's almost paranoia of looking at everything, you know?
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Um, so it's kind of a blessing and a curse to have a mind where you're kind of be, where
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you're able to see outside of things and maybe have an idea of a bigger picture because it
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leads you sometimes to like things that are like, is this real?
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But at the same time, you're not just sitting there like, you know, you're not just standing
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It feels like to ask what's going on, but it does start to feel like that.
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It starts to feel like, yeah, does anybody really care about it?
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Like, I think when I was young, you know, we grew up with like a more tradition in America,
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you know, with like the Pledge of Allegiance, simple stuff, you know, hand jobs.
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They might, you know, they might, but, but it was like that, you know, there was kind
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Well, a lot of these women are also, they're coming in hot, you know, they're coming in
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The women are acting like the men did when I was in high school.
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It used to be a little more, you know, hand feels a little bit more comfortable.
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Tug feels like, Hey, well, let's fucking get out.
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And the men are kind of like the, they seem like the girls were in high school.
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I said, you know, I know I look better now than I ever did.
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If I looked this good when I was 20, I don't know.
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I would honestly, I would, I think I would even take you out on a date, I think.
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If I was 40 years older, I'd snap you in half like a potato chip.
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Are there any things that you miss about sex as you get older, do you think?
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Well, I had an unfortunate experience that ended all my sex urges and all my sex thoughts.
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Because, you know, when you're old, things happen to you as a woman.
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If you're not going to take all the hormones, you know, and you're just going to try to age
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Well, the one thing that was, the one thing that was shocking is that I found out the only
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The older you get, they get more and more thin.
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So, you know, and, you know, your husband, he's getting old too.
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So, of course, he's got to go on the Viagra because, you know, this and that and the other.
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And so there I was every time I, you know, we did it.
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Well, I got a horrible, I, what are they called?
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And the last time I got it was the last time I had sex.
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They had to take me to the hospital and they had to give me three morphine shots for my whatever
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Oh, and they give it to you right in your vagina?
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Thank God because I would have jumped out the window and just killed myself.
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But then I was like, sorry, Charlie, to my boyfriend.
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Sorry, Charlie, you're going to have to, whatever, you know, whatever you do, don't just whatever.
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People say, well, there's other ways to make love.
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You know, you can get with your partner and blah, blah.
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We like to watch the ID channel on the mass murders.
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We lay there in bed together and watch the mass murders.
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And that's just as, what do you call it, satisfying to me.
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We try to solve the cases and this and that, the true crime.
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And I go, you're so proud of yourself for the having sex thing.
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I mean, look, first of all, a good Dateline episode will make me come, to be honest.
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Some of the, I mean, they've kind of repackaged some of them.
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But, yeah, I've got, I mean, I have, there's, you know, there's something about a good murder
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As long as I wake up and know somebody's getting murdered in the distance, I'm kind of, it
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And the way they get caught is what attracts me to it, because they're always so stupid,
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You know, the criminal mind, it's really a stupid mind.
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Well, a lot of times it's a man just trying to kill some lady.
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A lot of times it is, because he, you know, he's been, you know, he's got his issues.
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The ones I like is the wife that poisoned their husband with the glycolic nucleic acid,
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Those ones, they think they're not going to get caught, you know, because they go,
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And then they take care of him as he wastes away for two months.
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And she's like, I don't know what's wrong with him.
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Well, you know, then they trace it back and they always find the Gatorade and the antifreeze.
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Well, one thing that happened with society was during the pandemic, everyone watched every date
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So that is one thing that, and that was sedating a lot of the masses.
00:33:35.060
People being able to see some murder, see some with their partner, especially I think with
00:33:39.320
Because I think in a marriage, I've never been in one, but I think that you, there's
00:33:43.600
something, there's fucking 5% of you that wants to kill that motherfucker.
00:33:47.500
If you could get away with it, but you know you can't.
00:33:50.720
But at least seeing it happen for somebody else takes it away from you for the evening.
00:33:58.760
It's like, I feel a little better after watching that.
00:34:02.820
It's way, you know, you have to say the antifreeze and the Gatorade thing.
00:34:06.400
And that's a lot smarter than how the women used to kill their husbands.
00:34:10.060
Because I always, you know, in like ethnic cultures and such, such as mine and where
00:34:19.320
I grew up in Salt Lake was a lot of people of color cultures and such.
00:34:24.200
Was there a lot of blacks or Filipinos or what was it?
00:34:26.940
Yeah, there was a lot of blacks where I grew up in Salt Lake City.
00:34:33.260
And yeah, so you always hear the story about the ant or what she did to, you know, to deal
00:34:40.180
with an abusive husband back in the day, you know, before women had any other way of dealing
00:34:46.920
Well, you'd get your brothers and they'd just, you know, beat them to death.
00:34:51.140
And then they, you know, you know, you hide them.
00:34:57.300
Or with a pedophile, as you say, like Pedialyte.
00:35:06.600
Well, they'd get them too, you know, it's like vigilante justice.
00:35:12.340
I think we're going to probably have to go back to it because, you know, our, our, our
00:35:22.760
I mean, even if you start with like, just the level of safety people feel, you know,
00:35:29.720
I noticed if I go to Canada, the first thing I feel safe.
00:35:41.160
And plus a doctor comes right to your hotel and don't charge you nothing.
00:35:46.320
But then you have to have Justin Castro as your president.
00:36:01.380
And he's too fucking handsome to be a president.
00:36:10.300
I never, when I see him, I'm like, all right, I'll listen to you for a little bit,
00:36:22.360
It's like, you've had it easier your whole life.
00:36:28.040
Yeah, you don't know what it's like to walk up to people and have them not even listen
00:36:37.840
Yeah, I think, but I think, yeah, we're in a place of real fear.
00:36:40.940
I mean, people are moving to a stage where you can carry a weapon.
00:36:46.840
Yeah, and part of me, that's why I moved to Tennessee because you can carry a weapon
00:36:51.500
So, at least if somebody's going to start some shit, they're going to risk somebody ending
00:37:00.960
All women should be armed all the time with the shit we have to deal with.
00:37:04.980
Not all the time looking over your shoulder and watching out for your kids.
00:37:09.360
That is a lot of stress where you could just, you know, I think we should have open carry
00:37:16.360
You just have them bandoliers like those Mexican guys used to have, like, bullets everywhere.
00:37:24.300
Would you just blow their fucking heads off, right?
00:37:29.440
Oh, I think a woman should be able to kill one man a month.
00:37:41.440
Everybody should be able to kill one person a year.
00:37:50.700
If they're proven guilty in a court of their peers under just law, then you should be able
00:37:57.520
That's the problem is that law got kind of weird.
00:38:00.140
It got like, is this a, you know, it's like, because you go back and see all these cases
00:38:04.200
where it's like some guy got convicted and he didn't do it.
00:38:07.800
Especially like when it came to like race, when it came to women, there's a new show
00:38:13.620
on right now about women that accuse guys of rape.
00:38:18.440
And then they turned it on the women and put them, incarcerated the women for false accusations.
00:38:31.160
It's just, I mean, some of them may have been false also, but.
00:38:34.800
Yeah, that's a really weird, a whole weird area where someone can accuse somebody and
00:38:41.020
it's a false accusation and that person has to go to prison and pay for that.
00:38:50.400
And then a shitload on the other side of, you know, real victims that are humiliated.
00:38:57.200
All they have to do is make sure nothing makes sense and we're all fine.
00:39:01.480
As long as nothing makes sense and it don't follow any rule or, and it has no application
00:39:14.500
Have you been, what's something that's kind of surprised you as your life went on when
00:39:18.680
you look back at life so far when you're like, wow, I didn't think this was kind of
00:39:22.400
going to go this way or this kind of blew my mind.
00:39:30.660
So I thought, oh, everything would work out better than it did, you know?
00:39:42.180
Cause it's like, it wouldn't be that hard to make it go right, but yet it never does.
00:39:50.720
Um, it makes more sense and it's cheaper to do shit right, but then it never is done
00:39:59.280
And people don't, and it's, it's, it's tough to decide sometimes for me if it's the, if
00:40:03.500
it's our leadership or if it's our people, if it's just people in general, you know?
00:40:11.560
I think I'll tell you one thing that is disappointment is, you know, being a, an outspoken woman speaking
00:40:18.120
for a woman's, uh, rights and this and that and the other or equality.
00:40:25.680
I didn't think it was going to go like that when that's a huge disappointment and, you
00:40:30.500
know, being a child of the sixties or you wanted to see a, uh, you know, a, a, uh, fully
00:40:38.460
integrated America where everybody got along and this and that and the other, that's a
00:40:46.100
Because there was a lot of like, um, well with women, did it kind of, I feel like things
00:40:54.780
You know, I mean, I think I grew up a lot of times like, you know, I have some anger.
00:41:04.180
You know, I remember like the one time I spent with my mother when it was just her and I,
00:41:10.820
um, she took me to work with her one day on her route.
00:41:14.880
She delivered, uh, newspapers and, and things and, and we got to go to Wendy's together.
00:41:21.240
And we went to Wendy's dude and she made me tuck in my shirt.
00:41:27.060
And, uh, and I got the cheeseburger and that foil had that nice foil on it.
00:41:31.280
You know, I think it's not copper, but it's nice.
00:41:33.360
And, uh, and the square burger and I, it was like the first time I'd ever spent any time
00:41:38.780
with my, like, it was, I just registered cause I was like, oh, I've never been alone with
00:41:43.140
You know, we had three other kids my whole life.
00:41:52.260
It was like a cow rug and I would go smell it sometimes and pretend like it was my dad,
00:42:06.580
So, oh my God, he wasn't around, but so yeah, but I didn't have this like concept of like
00:42:11.120
a young dad, you know, like a protector or anything.
00:42:14.040
So I remember I'd like pretend like my dad was like a cowboy or that like he was like
00:42:18.080
in the wild west or shooting somebody, not an Indian, cause I don't think they deserved
00:42:26.140
But, um, anyway, I don't even know why I went off on that tangent.
00:42:32.740
So I think I was, you know, time with your mom.
00:42:50.000
Well, I got too fucked up last time I went on stage here.
00:43:00.880
I'm supposed to not smoke, but I can't help it.
00:43:07.920
God, when I fucking was young, I would smoke, boy.
00:43:11.160
I remember I worked on this farm and after it would rain, we had this big guy and he'd
00:43:17.340
go take his shirt off and lay on the cement after it would rain.
00:43:22.460
I don't know what was wrong with him, but we'd go smoke and watch him lay there.
00:43:30.320
I mean, it was just, you know, it was a different time.
00:43:35.700
I bet if you were a man and you were into some real man stuff and you watch that video,
00:43:39.280
two younger guys watching a big fella lay there with his shirt off, I bet it's probably
00:43:47.800
I mean, if they had the video, if Gabe had watched it or whatever, you know, I could see
00:43:51.740
that being some type of, like, ASMR for, like, gay men or, like, some type of, like, avant-garde
00:43:58.940
There's a lot of new, like, farm boy art that's coming out in the gay culture where you see,
00:44:02.580
like, a lot of old pictures of, like, guys with no shirt but not, like, buff guys, just
00:44:11.140
I've noticed it, like, a lot of my gay friends are, like, it's, like, a thing in that culture
00:44:22.520
Well, that's more human than, you know, the really fashionable New York City gay guy with
00:44:33.180
Yeah, I think that stuff's kind of getting played out a little bit.
00:44:35.700
So, yeah, did you, so I guess, so what part of being, like, a woman or, like, women's,
00:44:47.000
like, empowerment kind of disappeared or whatever?
00:44:49.020
Or did you feel like it went a different way than you expected?
00:44:51.820
Or did you feel like, because there was a time probably when you were, like, this is
00:45:00.800
Like, I was really breaking down doors and boundaries, you know, and I was feeling heroic and like
00:45:11.400
You know, that pioneer feeling like, yes, I can.
00:45:20.580
We're, you know, we're coming hard for this new century or what happened.
00:45:31.300
But then it's like, yeah, the women fucked that up.
00:45:38.160
Women, women fucked it up with their stupidity and their, just their, ugh, just their stupidity
00:45:47.140
and egos and their need to, like, be attractive or win or, and they love fucking over other
00:45:54.740
That's the most thing nobody will ever talk about.
00:45:58.120
Oh, women get off fucking over another woman more than they, more than anything.
00:46:05.040
Well, that bitch, I showed her, I shot that bitch a lesson.
00:46:09.300
That's all the left is always women taking other women down.
00:46:13.500
Oh, dude, I remember in our neighborhood, somebody got a bird feeder, right?
00:46:19.840
And so this other lady, they were always stealing it and shit and fucking fighting over it, dude.
00:46:30.120
It was that we had hummingbirds for about, I guess, probably almost six months.
00:46:33.500
And, uh, but these women were always stealing it and putting it in their own little bush
00:46:38.400
outside and stuff, and they were fucking fighting, and the police would come and-
00:46:44.240
Oh, so you can imagine what it's like in Hollywood.
00:46:53.660
I mean, women are after other women's throats there.
00:46:56.860
And it's like, well, you might get your head patted from a guy with real power if you help
00:47:04.940
Because you got up high in the Hollywood world.
00:47:07.820
Yeah, I was real high, but they don't have no allegiance to any group.
00:47:18.680
They don't feel any empathy or connection to nobody else.
00:47:27.780
But did you feel like you were like an empower, or were you of like a figure empowering women
00:47:37.900
What did you, I guess I wonder what's your, or to have a voice?
00:47:43.940
I was trying to just empower women to think for themselves, you know, and to try to stay
00:47:49.780
true to yourself and so you can raise better kids.
00:47:53.400
Don't kneel, you know, stand tall and, you know, don't disrespect your husband either.
00:48:00.460
You know, be a team with him to raise better kids.
00:48:03.200
That's what we're supposed to do, I thought, and I still do.
00:48:18.940
So, you know, they have all these kids and they have no jobs and, you know, then they
00:48:26.460
But nobody would tell them, you can't have it all.
00:48:37.080
You need a man in the house because he's got to lay down the law.
00:48:47.560
But the man, he has to be there steady and even to keep, you know, loving the woman when
00:48:59.560
And so they took that away from them and look where it went.
00:49:02.540
They're all half out of their effing mind and they're ruining everything.
00:49:05.900
And screaming about, you're, you know, you better, you know, just censoring everybody
00:49:20.320
Because witchy, that's like, you know, you're casting a spell, a good spell with words to
00:49:27.560
make people wake up or think that everything's a spell that uses words, you know, and, uh,
00:49:36.540
So we have no way of communicating or making things better.
00:49:47.820
A lot of women are into chaos because then they can turn around when they're not crazy
00:49:55.860
Bitch, you started the whole fucking thing and now you're going to come in with the solution.
00:50:02.340
I have three daughters, so I know what I'm talking about.
00:50:21.900
As a child of a single mother, it was interesting because my mom had to work all the time.
00:50:26.580
So I always wished that there was more of an ideal family.
00:50:30.460
You know, I would get it by watching shows like yours, like Roseanne.
00:50:34.440
And I would get it by, I mean, I remember I watched Jerry Leave It to Beaver, you know?
00:50:48.840
My favorite one was where they tell their parents they're going to take a bath and the
00:50:58.340
So they go in the bathroom, they close the door and they run the water in the bathtub
00:51:03.640
while they're talking and they get a wash rag and get it all wet and rub soap on it
00:51:09.500
And then they wet up a towel and throw it on the floor, but they haven't taken a bath
00:51:17.100
That was just genius because it's what kids do.
00:51:21.200
I loved that show because they had a lot of reality in it and I loved it.
00:51:25.640
I loved anything on TV that had any kind of reality that showed what kids really are about.
00:51:31.120
And Eddie Haskell was the best because you would be a great Eddie Haskell, by the way,
00:51:40.660
And then you're like, I got a bag of what's it?
00:51:50.820
Oh, I told I used to go get high with my buddies, right?
00:51:53.700
My buddy, uh, my buddy, his dad was kind of like, he didn't know a lot about gays or
00:52:02.060
So sometimes I'd go outside and get high with, uh, with him, with his son.
00:52:11.420
And I would tell the dad, I'd be like, man, we were outside and some of the guys had their
00:52:17.160
shirts off and they were just, I don't know, Mr. Mike, they were being kind of crazy.
00:52:22.400
I felt like, or, or strange and you could see him fucking start to light up because he
00:52:29.520
So we would come, uh, so, so they would come and they'd be stoned out their gills, right?
00:52:36.440
I've been talking to the dad and he'd be like, you boys been queering around out there.
00:52:44.440
And you could see he'd just been waiting to yell it and everybody's just standing there
00:52:50.300
And I am laughing so hard because I made that moment happen, you know?
00:53:07.260
My dad was a football player and he always would go, he'd say the girls can't go with him
00:53:13.580
He'd go, no, it's the boys with the boys and the girls with the girls.
00:53:19.200
He'd say, the girls I'll stay home with mom and you make dinner and that.
00:53:23.000
And me and my son, we're, we're going to do whatever we're doing because it's boys with
00:53:31.560
And I said, remember dad, you said girls with girls and boys with boy.
00:53:40.920
He, like when he was three and he's always wearing my mom's clothes and stuff and putting
00:53:46.460
But my dad thought that meant he needed more time with my dad, which was probably the worst
00:53:52.900
And my dad going around with all that homophobia.
00:53:58.380
You know, my poor brother taking them out and putting that in his head.
00:54:11.600
And I was her fat, ugly daughter chewing on my hair in the corner.
00:54:19.940
Oh, if you have a little bit of your own hair, you'll eat whatever.
00:54:23.180
Chewing on my nails, my arms, whatever, my hair.
00:54:26.380
But, and, uh, so, you know, she always have her makeup perfect and telling us about, you
00:54:37.060
And, uh, my little sister, she ended up being all anorexic.
00:54:41.440
And then my middle sister, she ended up to be a big old, you know, and, uh, so, um, you
00:54:49.380
know, she had a big, uh, leather pouch full of marbles she carried on her overalls there.
00:55:00.520
And, uh, my mom was doing that girl shit with us and, um, talking about, well, you know,
00:55:09.540
She told me, when you go on a date, how you get a guy is you get them to talk about their
00:55:16.840
And, uh, and she was giving us the female wiles, horse shit.
00:55:20.940
But, and my sister picked up a knife out of the butcher block there and she held it up
00:55:26.200
She goes, don't you ever, ever talk to me about sex or any of that stuff.
00:55:41.780
So cut to later on, my brother comes out and, uh, so my dad, he's trying to be accepting.
00:55:50.580
He knows, oh, you know, I can't do nothing about this.
00:55:53.500
So he gives my brother knee pads for his birthday.
00:55:58.780
Well, just knee pads going, I accept you as a gay and here's some knee pads.
00:56:08.760
And then, uh, he never knew that my sister was gay, even though she's living with the
00:56:16.360
They fell in love when they were 12 at Jewish camp.
00:56:22.040
And when they were 12, I said, but anyway, so they was always together and, um, my dad
00:56:28.220
visited them and my sister was sitting on the couch with Maxine's head in her lap and,
00:56:34.840
And my dad says to my sister, after he's already accepted a gay son, when are you two
00:56:44.420
And my sister says to him, daddy, 18 years of you was all the man I will ever want or
00:56:56.360
I think some people, it's hard to even imagine that.
00:57:00.580
Well, I think also at a different time now it's very normal.
00:57:03.120
And I think nature has a way, like if you have an issue with gays, you get a, you get
00:57:10.720
You get something that's gay comes into your life, you know?
00:57:13.320
So you learn the lesson, you know, or you surprise yourself and you're gay.
00:57:17.680
You know, one time you are sitting by a bus on a bus by a man and you just, and he just,
00:57:22.640
you just fucking hug him and you can't stop it or something.
00:57:24.980
You know, like I think it like nature surprises you and it's like, okay, here's the thing
00:57:32.720
And now I'm going to put it in a way in your life where you have to understand it.
00:57:46.220
Like I said, they got to make sure God or whoever, I always think of God as being the
00:57:50.760
greatest comedian because he makes sure nothing makes any damn sense.
00:57:58.980
It's like, you know, like I always think of this kid when I grew up, his dad was a dentist
00:58:03.540
while he, he had the rotten teeth and never went to the dentist.
00:58:10.460
You know, he let all his teeth rot out and I think that he got some kind of bacterial
00:58:24.820
But now the gay, because both of my gay siblings have kids.
00:58:28.660
So the gays are getting their karma for having kids, I think.
00:58:33.040
Their kids are grown and a lot of them's turning trans, you know.
00:58:36.940
Well, you have to outdo gay now, it seems like.
00:58:40.220
And then it's funny because the trans are so, I mean, this is a long way to go, but the
00:58:50.680
Once they make their choice, then they're all the way stereotypical heterosexual.
00:59:01.100
She's like, hey, buddy, let's watch some football.
00:59:04.200
And then when the guy turns girl, he's like, Dylan, what's it?
00:59:09.160
I just love to play around with my makeup and my, you know, they're just straight.
00:59:17.780
It's like you went all the way around the block and you're really just right back, but you're
00:59:24.360
Like the gay, the trans women, they're like, how come you lesbians don't want to have sex
00:59:51.260
I don't want to have to have a wiener because you think that you just because you have a
00:59:56.240
wiener and are secretly a woman that you get to bring a wiener in.
01:00:00.700
That's why my advice to women these days is keep your penises in your pants, women.
01:00:06.600
You know, especially when there's children, old women around.
01:00:10.040
We don't want to see other women's penises for sure.
01:00:28.200
I had a puff the other night and it was a lot with Ron White, you know.
01:00:34.100
Dude, if he, and he's a, I mean, he would be a beautiful woman.
01:00:40.640
But the rest of him, yeah, probably wouldn't, yeah.
01:00:46.700
If he wanted to play sports, they'd let him, you know, he'd have to, he'd be fine.
01:00:55.880
Well, how funny is, to me, it's only fair if you, if a, if a, if a man, if, if a woman
01:01:01.900
also goes and plays a man, it's like, it should be Red Rover.
01:01:06.020
I know, but what woman's going to go play with a 300 pound man?
01:01:13.280
The men can play women's sports if women can compete in the top dollar jobs against men,
01:01:21.940
Like, why couldn't I go in there and run the W E F?
01:01:27.980
I, I just didn't go to Harvard and say, uh, you know, take an oath over Geronimo's skull
01:01:33.780
and get fucked in a casket like they, like George Bush and all them.
01:01:39.160
But I should be running the world and getting the same amount of money as these men.
01:01:45.580
I should be going where they don't let women go.
01:01:50.760
Then let me go to Davos as a representative of working class.
01:01:55.600
People say, let me represent women and men of my class where my class ain't allowed.
01:02:07.900
It's like, uh, how, how do like, do you think there's ways out like to get our, I think
01:02:18.040
Oh, I had this, I guess this idea of like a comfortable society.
01:02:35.560
I know there's, um, you know, women not look, not paid fairly.
01:02:43.140
My mom, I remember one time, like her boss, I think hit on her or something or it was inappropriate
01:02:47.440
and she complained about it and she complained about it and they took her job away.
01:02:56.520
They did it to a lot of men too because women were harassing men and they didn't even look
01:03:02.840
Power, you know, whether a man or a woman holds it is always abused.
01:03:10.680
And women were doing that to other women and men too.
01:03:19.360
Victims are female and that's part of what made women go nuts like they are today.
01:03:23.620
They never go, Hey, I'm just as bad as a, I'm as bad as any guy.
01:03:33.920
I think this whole fucking generation has no self-reflection, which is because they don't
01:03:38.620
pay attention because they're lost in their phones.
01:03:42.400
Why is it falling to me, an old woman to be the one to discipline your kids for you in
01:03:47.740
I have to be the one to go over and slap your kids for you while you're on your phone
01:03:51.780
and they're sticking their fucking snot covered fingers in the goddamn hamburger buns.
01:04:05.140
Why do they even have kids is what I can understand.
01:04:16.160
I think because they kind of like puppies, they look cute for a while.
01:04:21.800
They want them to get to hold that sign first grade, second grade.
01:04:28.420
They put their picture on Facebook of the kid and he had second grade two times.
01:04:33.980
But at least the parents put it up there as honest, you know, like second grade, try number two.
01:04:46.340
And we know he can't do it, dude, but he's going to try.
01:04:53.840
But yeah, I think there was something like that.
01:04:55.700
There was something that we all thought everything was going to be okay.
01:05:13.140
I wish somebody would have told me that when I was young.
01:05:33.100
So I figured, hell, I got a lot of catching up to do.
01:05:45.560
And you're in a place where you're like in the best party place.
01:05:48.220
I mean, nothing's better than being able to probably smoke with Joe.
01:05:51.640
Or smoke with Ron or chill out with those guys.
01:06:04.900
I took a drag of his pot and I go, this shit is Viet Cong shit.
01:06:09.280
It's like it made me want to dig a tunnel and shoot down a helicopter with a pea shooter.
01:06:34.540
I told him, you know, Celtic because I like reading heads.
01:06:43.280
No, I just look at the shape of the head and I studied it for a long time and, you know,
01:06:50.000
I can see like where you're from and your ancestry and where you came from and what you're like.
01:06:55.800
And then I pair it with your astrological sign and your palm print and all that kind of shit.
01:07:01.360
And then I can tell you what you what lessons you learned and what you're still going to learn.
01:07:11.660
I can, but, you know, you'll be the one that I do wrong.
01:07:19.680
We had a lady in our town that would like read ribs.
01:07:24.520
And for a carnival or whatever, they would read your ribs over there.
01:07:43.580
I mean, that's a tough, you know, I guess starting at the ribs ain't a bad idea.
01:08:05.100
Like, is there is there is there a fallacy just in being human that, you know, and this
01:08:10.780
is the character arc of the human species that we end up just staring at a phone while somebody
01:08:17.960
molests us from behind, but we don't even notice because we're so busy on our phone while
01:08:23.860
some fucking, you know, business mogul is hiding in a basement, licking a Bitcoin, you know,
01:08:38.900
They say it's happened six times in the Earth's history that the Earth has self-destructed
01:08:55.420
And then, you know, pretty soon we're just a stupid idiot staring at a screen while all
01:09:07.640
They're figuring out ways to kill us and they're taking bets on it and insurance policies.
01:09:13.300
Like every employer is taking out a, they don't have to tell you if you have an insurance
01:09:18.800
So every employer's, you know, that's a psychopath and most of them are, they're insuring all their
01:09:24.400
employees and they're like, yeah, you know, we're going to make them take this and that
01:09:31.840
And then, you know, they'll be dead by 40 and I'll get the payoff.
01:09:37.620
In the big casino, the big capitalist casino where they cause cancer and then, you know,
01:09:44.300
they also get a payoff when you go in for treatment.
01:09:47.900
They own the cancer causing chemicals and the treatment centers.
01:09:53.560
There's only like, there's only about 2,500 people in the world that own everything.
01:10:00.560
They're like, we got to get rid of these people as they bitch too much.
01:10:03.320
They don't do enough work and you know, they're eating all the good stuff.
01:10:08.580
I mean, it's like, it's certainly got, it starts to feel like there's like this legion
01:10:12.960
of wealth or power that has decided in the past 30 years that humans are just expendable.
01:10:22.080
They've always thought that that's why they had serfs, the royals and they had their
01:10:31.380
And you know, we had a few couple centuries without it and the royals and the reptiles
01:10:36.540
and all them, the rulers, they, the owners, they decided, ah, fuck it.
01:10:54.060
Pretty soon they'll have a comic, comedian robots that'll come up and they'll tell like,
01:10:59.340
you know, they'll get it out of the encyclopedia.
01:11:03.080
And they'll just program the robots to tell the jokes that have already been told that
01:11:17.200
They couldn't come up with the material, but they can use my old material.
01:11:24.340
But watching some like, and they'd probably cast a man to be it.
01:11:39.320
So I think we're in an interesting time where comedians are kind of like the last, the last
01:11:46.880
They get like, like attacked for speaking up online of any of their thoughts or feelings.
01:11:57.460
Comedians are kind of the only people that can speak.
01:11:59.100
And the platforms now keep you from saying certain things.
01:12:02.260
I mean, it seems like they're getting a little more free with Elon, you know, in Twitter.
01:12:05.860
But I don't know like if that will happen with a lot of platforms, but YouTube will take
01:12:10.560
If you have certain things, if people are talking, even thinking about things that they consider
01:12:18.780
Which is, it's their business, but it's weird because that's the business that we use to
01:12:26.200
It's all, when I ran for president in 2012, one of my platform things was I will outlaw
01:12:34.320
Because, you know, and I know that horrified people because what will they do now?
01:12:40.180
They'd rather have that than food or a happy family.
01:12:46.120
But, you know, comics, I think we're the less free speech art form.
01:12:49.920
And as long as we're performing, things end as bad as they could be.
01:12:56.880
As long as we're performing, things aren't as bad as they could be.
01:12:59.860
And that's always been the case throughout time, like with jesters or with people that
01:13:05.820
There's always been a ceiling on speech, hasn't there, in a way?
01:13:17.200
And like for the real truth that, you know, and I'm glad that they did set up all these
01:13:22.320
guidelines so that we only are allowed to speak the truth.
01:13:25.580
And the truth is that Biden got 81 million votes by winning 36 counties.
01:13:36.900
And that of these 81 million supporters who gave him more votes than any president has
01:13:45.000
ever gotten before, he came with a mandate from these 81 million voters.
01:13:49.020
And, you know, I'm just glad that they were very careful to make sure that nobody could detract
01:14:04.760
That they mandated that that was the truth and that nobody could say, well, what about no?
01:14:18.300
Because, you know, YouTube did and so did all the social...
01:14:22.940
You can't even speak on that in those platforms?
01:14:28.080
You can't say that like, you know, there was election...
01:14:50.700
And don't you dare say anything against it or you'll be off YouTube, Facebook, Twitter,
01:14:55.660
and all the other ones because we have, you know, there's such a thing as the truth
01:15:12.640
Six million Jews should die right now because they cause all the problems in the world,
01:15:30.780
It's like a lot of Hollywood is a Jewish business, really?
01:15:41.560
So I wouldn't go over there and try to get in rap and go, all these black people, you
01:15:45.960
know, go on Saturday Night Live like Dave Chappelle.
01:15:48.840
I'm just saying a lot of black people are in control of rap.
01:16:00.520
But, you know, and people should be glad that it's Jewish too because if Jews were not controlling
01:16:04.720
Hollywood, all you'd have was fucking fishing shows.
01:16:10.780
Well, I think that about that, like Jewish people, like they're just good at...
01:16:16.580
Just a good level of organization that goes on with Jews.
01:16:19.760
You know, you'd have like a bunch of like white people just shooting each other for
01:16:24.040
patents, I feel like, if you didn't have Jews involved.
01:16:27.380
If you didn't have the Jewish lawyers to screw those people out of their patents, think
01:16:34.820
If you're part Jewish, did you feel weird that...
01:16:41.180
Was it weird that Hollywood like went against you then because you're also Jewish or not?
01:16:51.140
I'm a Jew and I got fired from Jewish Hollywood.
01:16:58.020
Because I'm not the right kind of Jew as the Jews in Hollywood.
01:17:17.260
And what that is, is the blue eye is a way to ward off other people giving you the evil eye.
01:17:29.200
Because I believe in those principles that like, you know, harmonics, vibration, and those kind of things, you know,
01:17:48.660
And I haven't given my life to a system of bullshit where the only reward is to own more bullshit than other people.
01:18:08.120
And unfortunately, there's a lot of Jewish people that adhere to that.
01:18:16.000
And, you know, they go where it's easier for them to be in organized crime.
01:18:28.780
Because Hollywood really is an organized crime network.
01:18:40.120
It's like, okay, your agent pimp, another word for pimp.
01:18:47.220
And, you know, they think that talent is expendable.
01:18:49.760
And they think the people running Hollywood are the pimps.
01:19:13.020
And so that was government money given their way to portray certain things for mass media,
01:19:21.720
And to keep people in line, to keep them, like, thinking fairy tales instead of looking at the truth.
01:19:29.480
It's like, oh, and then Richard Gere falls in love with the prostitute on Hollywood Boulevard.
01:19:35.500
Don't go down there and actually look at the 12-year-old prostitutes that live on Hollywood Boulevard.
01:19:40.360
Believe the bullshit lie that, you know, the boy always gets the girl in the end.
01:19:45.080
And, you know, that, you know, there's friendly aliens and, you know, anything Spielberg does.
01:19:55.840
And people are being paid, and they're happy to take the money to make sure that they keep the population under mind control and quiet.
01:20:12.920
You know, they had loud people that were pissed, working-class people that are pissed and going,
01:20:17.320
I'm going to turn you into this and that if you don't this and that.
01:20:22.440
That's what it's for, is to break the back of the working-class labor and pay.
01:20:48.680
Even though it's like, and that's the interesting thing about Hollywood is that it sells love stories.
01:20:58.020
And maybe at one time it believed in those things.
01:21:00.880
It was, but I do think that over time it has been.
01:21:03.700
It never did, because you have to look at the movies that come out at the specific, I'm just talking about movies.
01:21:10.260
And TV, because I had my own shit in TV, which that would take five shows to go into the mind control of TV and advertising, which I thought Bill Hicks did better than I could ever do.
01:21:24.380
So I just tell people, go listen to Bill Hicks talk about, if you're in PR, just kill yourself.
01:21:38.620
And, but the movies, when you look at the timeframe that a movie comes out, you have to look at the whole political, the whole political geography around it and why it's coming out and what it's saying.
01:21:51.880
Because a lot of times it's kind of a fortune telling thing and it's predictive programming, it's called, because it's telling you what's going to happen pretty soon.
01:22:09.920
Because they're in bed with the, with the government and the CIA.
01:22:13.320
Right, so they're in bed at this point with like, with groups that have more intelligence than the average layman or whatever.
01:22:23.360
They're like, oh, pretty soon they're going to take your picture at the airport.
01:22:26.100
You know, that was science fiction at one time where you have to look into the camera and have your fingerprints.
01:22:33.700
Yeah, this week the cameras were down when I was flying out and I was like, what's going on, the cameras?
01:22:37.520
And they're like, yeah, we're just, we're redoing the system or whatever.
01:22:41.580
But then I'm like, wow, man, once they just have your, it's just like, why do, it starts to feel like, is there any real value just to me being a human anymore?
01:22:52.300
So if people could wake up and take that back and there were, we, and we would talk to each other with respect and actually listen, which I don't think people know how to listen to anybody no more.
01:23:06.620
And all that they're saying is just parroting something they've seen on media.
01:23:11.800
We start to just pay, like in the end, a lot of people are just parrots now.
01:23:17.600
It's people like, even like if you look on TikTok or certain apps, there are people like trends.
01:23:28.360
It's a piece of a song that's going to come out.
01:23:31.140
So then now you have people like trending to this song.
01:23:35.560
It's all like part of a formula a lot of times.
01:23:39.260
Like the advertising is, they've just locked it up so much at like the algorithm of how
01:23:47.300
But if people would wake up and take back the fact that they are a human being and what
01:23:52.760
a human being, what it is, what's the definition of a human being and what that is in my mind
01:23:58.500
anyway, is somebody who feels empathy for another human being or animal or life form, you know.
01:24:06.560
And that's what they tried to strip out of us so that we're just all very fearful and
01:24:10.700
narcissistic and we're afraid of anybody or to talk to them or listen to them.
01:24:15.440
But once we can reclaim that, and I think it's coming because I think we're going to have
01:24:20.400
a big crash and a big shutdown and we won't have any choice but to go back to basics.
01:24:25.200
I think it's going to be really good for us and we're going to get together and figure
01:24:28.940
out a better way of doing things that it doesn't come from the top down.
01:24:32.640
It comes from the bottom up because all change does in fact come from the bottom up.
01:24:36.900
And I think we're at, we're at that place, you know, where they put us into quarantine.
01:24:41.540
That was the best thing that ever happened to this country.
01:24:44.940
Although a lot of people lost their jobs in this, but the greatest thing about it was
01:24:48.940
that it broke the routine and that's one way to snap out of mind control is to break
01:24:56.540
They had to stay home with their own stinking families who they hate and like actually solve
01:25:04.000
So it woke people up as to what mattered and then they got on the internet and they started
01:25:11.060
looking for answers and that's why they call it the great awakening.
01:25:14.980
Or I say that's what Q was for quarantine because we all got a lot smarter.
01:25:22.340
We all got a lot closer during the quarantine and it was the best thing that could have happened
01:25:27.080
to us because anything that these people that are very twisted at the top, anything that
01:25:33.460
they tried to do to us is going to end up working for our benefit as long as we've reclaimed
01:25:39.800
our humanity and our love and our connection for each other.
01:25:43.940
They can't hurt us because they don't even know what the human spirit is.
01:25:49.440
So when we have it and we raise it in somebody else and then together we like bond and talk
01:25:55.800
and make each other laugh or feel any joy, they can't get at that and it's growing and
01:26:03.660
That's why I love coming down here and working the clubs and seeing people laugh.
01:26:09.400
We have such great jobs because we're doing God's work.
01:26:17.320
It's like we're putting severed pieces together.
01:26:19.720
Virginia Woolf said that about writers, that writers put the severed parts together and that
01:26:26.540
Things that you wouldn't think go together, we put together in front of people and they
01:26:34.520
And once you put one puzzle piece together, the next few seem to fall in easier.
01:26:38.800
And I think we're doing building work for grassroots and it starts and ends with laughter because
01:26:45.480
at the end, laughing power to scorn is the way to take it, the fastest way to take it
01:26:53.660
And the fastest way to rebuild it is with words that mean something, spoken from one to another.
01:27:02.800
And that people understand, not an assault on words like they're doing now, but words that are
01:27:09.380
understandable to each other where we can build common ground with each other and like do better.
01:27:15.720
It can't be, I mean, we can't do worse for fuck's sake.
01:27:22.920
So in the end, so you do feel like you feel hopeful.
01:27:28.320
I feel hopeful knowing that this is weird because you didn't know Mitzi Shore, did you?
01:27:35.540
Well, Mitzi used to get, you know, at the comedy store in LA, this was all the comics.
01:27:40.460
This was like, you know, just all the great comics of my generation and before Richard Pryor.
01:27:47.240
Um, I'm blank, but you know, all the good ones that I idolized and, and the ones of my generation
01:27:58.800
We'd all be sitting around talking and drinking and stuff.
01:28:01.520
And, uh, everybody would say the most important place on the planet, the most important thing
01:28:09.320
It's like, you know, what we think and thought then.
01:28:15.700
The most important place for comedy was Los Angeles.
01:28:19.760
The most important place for, in Los Angeles is a comedy store.
01:28:23.960
This is, you know, we'd say pretty much, this is the birthing place of where everything
01:28:32.680
And this is it, you know, this is the revolution.
01:28:36.280
And, um, and I feel that here at Joe's and he honors Mitzi's memory too, you know, and,
01:28:42.320
uh, just sitting in the comedy room with other comics and it's a disparate group, you know,
01:28:51.380
And just sitting and making fun of something and you can just feel the consciousness blooming,
01:29:00.660
Like when you go other places and shit, just, it's like the poetry is opening and everybody's
01:29:06.980
rising to the occasion and wants to say something even funnier, something even, uh, more powerful,
01:29:15.600
And I mean, there's nothing better than hanging out with comics and fucking around with words
01:29:22.660
That's, that's what I, it's what saves me over and over and over for how bad I've gone
01:29:31.660
But, you know, it's always coming back to, to, uh, comedy.
01:29:38.000
It's powerful in my life and, uh, all comics lives.
01:29:41.980
And I think to all the fans of comedy, people are real fans of comedy, even if they don't
01:29:56.280
And I think that's a lot of why people like him so much.
01:29:59.720
He had some, well, yeah, he doesn't get enough credit for being, uh, for a lot of his sense
01:30:02.960
of humor or just his ability to just like being so, uh, just let shit roll right off
01:30:10.080
You know, some of the stuff he says is fucking hilarious.
01:30:13.420
Um, I think a lot of my black friends like Trump more now too.
01:30:20.660
I know so much about that because when I ran for president, I ran as the, uh, representative
01:30:32.680
I know black and green and you, but that's how I always was in the sixties was that too,
01:30:38.500
And, um, you know, I, like I say, I never changed.
01:30:44.880
They went off the edge, but, um, both sides, right and left, but, um, I was in the middle.
01:30:50.320
I love the middle, but, uh, um, but, um, so I've always been in that milieu.
01:31:02.160
I, when I ran, I also sued the state of Georgia with Cynthia McKinney, who was my campaign manager.
01:31:08.460
And we sued the state of Georgia over its election laws, which are now coming into play
01:31:15.560
They're trying to, you know, pretend like they don't cheat, but, uh, and they, they say
01:31:24.140
I hope they do because my lawsuit and Cynthia's, I think it will be part of like the, the case.
01:31:33.640
And it will help him win because I went through it when I tried to get on the ballot in Georgia
01:31:39.220
And Cynthia was the rep, was, uh, the representative from Georgia and they screwed her with fake
01:31:46.620
voting machines to get her out because she asked Cheney where the money was going.
01:31:52.260
But anyway, she's a black woman for those who don't know, but she said, she said, of course
01:31:58.200
she had to go to Bangladesh to get the fuck out of here, you know, to teach college there.
01:32:03.380
But she said, she was your campaign, uh, manager and partner, but, but she says, uh, the truth
01:32:10.300
of it is that in 2020 Trump won big and he won black.
01:32:15.720
And that's part of why the Dems are all freaked out because, you know, they lost control of,
01:32:20.580
uh, their, who they looked at as their servant class.
01:32:25.420
Well, yeah, I think, well, I do think it is kind of dis, uh, sometimes it makes me, sometimes
01:32:29.880
it's tough as a white guy to talk, uh, like if you like have any, like, it's like black
01:32:38.520
people don't want to hear sometimes a white person talk about black stuff, right?
01:32:43.740
That's all, you know, the voice that they didn't even have a voice for so long.
01:32:46.800
So the echo of the voice from past, it's still fucking in the air.
01:32:54.560
A lot of Jews don't because while they was in slavery and all that shit, so was we, and
01:32:59.160
we was getting our asses buried alive over there in the Ukraine by the same people that,
01:33:09.680
But, um, you know, we was getting that happening to us and every place else in Europe.
01:33:14.520
But, um, so don't include me in that, but I also have North African origins and, um, uh,
01:33:25.880
Oh, I used to be a real wigger when I was like a kid, you know?
01:33:38.440
But, you know, they keep on calling it race, race, race when it's class and they don't
01:33:43.560
want us to know it because they're all, you know, working the machine to get money.
01:33:47.800
But black people are getting way smarter than that.
01:33:49.700
Well, they, and faster and not to say that they haven't always been, but I think they're
01:33:53.440
also getting to a level where they can have their needs met now so they can make choices
01:33:59.020
So you don't have to make that choice or you don't have to feel like you have to pander
01:34:08.720
But I, I told Cynthia, I said, by God, it's so, uh, you know, they, uh, we owe African Americans.
01:34:16.880
It's, I mean, if things were to ever be straightened out or whatever, we owe them for saving our
01:34:22.720
country by, by their 2020 vote, but nobody knows it yet.
01:34:27.560
But I have faith that we will know what the truth sometime.
01:34:30.840
So you think that the election was just, it was fake.
01:34:34.540
That I believe Biden got 81 million votes in 36 counties.
01:34:39.380
There's 81 million people living within 36 counties.
01:34:49.160
When you look back on running for president, do you think like-
01:34:51.680
And the FBI didn't interfere in 2016 with saying Hillary's innocent and they didn't interfere
01:34:58.740
in 2020 by saying Biden was, was Russian shit about the laptop.
01:35:04.420
They did not interfere in any way when, when, uh, Facebook paid for all those voting machines
01:35:13.100
But, but those three Russian ads on Facebook were interference in 2016 that when they said
01:35:20.140
Remember that huge thing that Trump was working for, remember that whole fucking, for nine
01:35:29.740
I don't watch enough TV, but, um, it was like, yeah.
01:35:38.960
You know, the dossier said that Trump hired hookers and brought them up to his room and-
01:35:47.120
If you know Trump at all, you know, he's like Howard Hughes and he doesn't even, he can
01:36:00.000
I don't think he would, uh, I don't, uh, I don't think he would do it.
01:36:08.760
You can't pee on somebody without them knowing.
01:36:12.480
Although a lot of people do get peed on without their consent.
01:36:17.940
I think if, especially if you're getting married, like, yeah, I think Italians.
01:36:21.760
Can you believe that people pee on each other for sexual pleasure and poop on each other
01:36:26.520
and beat each other's ass and all the crap, all the ridiculous shit people do for their
01:36:34.880
Yeah, whatever happened to just, just fucking just having sex for a few minutes and just
01:36:50.480
A Salisbury steak to me is just as good almost sometimes.
01:36:53.760
My grandma used to live on them in the little plastic packets.
01:36:57.900
Oh, every night she'd come home from work and have a Salisbury steak.
01:37:06.580
And they had just enough P's that you could deal with.
01:37:09.040
You're like, I fucking hate P's, but I can handle 17 of them.
01:37:21.140
We were fucking, we knew what was going on by us, dude.
01:37:25.720
How old were you when you started doing stand-up?
01:37:34.620
And then I took a class out in L.A. when I got there.
01:37:47.500
But the cool thing about the class was at the end, you got on stage.
01:37:55.760
And then you're like, wow, dude, I was on stage.
01:37:58.240
And so, then you're like, now I can, I seem like a comedian.
01:38:11.500
I didn't realize it, you know, until I got older.
01:38:13.820
But I just, but he ended up being a source of things that were humorous to me.
01:38:18.420
And, um, just the, dude, my dad, like, like, we go through a drive-thru and he could never
01:38:25.260
hear the lady who was fucking, it was always a fucking, everything was a nightmare.
01:38:30.040
He drove this Cutlass, like an old Delta 8080, brought from some brothers that lived
01:38:38.380
So, he'd be driving around just listening to, like, Paul Harvey, right?
01:38:42.540
And, uh, like, on Rush Limbaugh or something, and the, with bass, you know, like, nobody just
01:38:50.240
had, like, the crop report was coming across the fucking, you know, like, the fucking, uh,
01:38:57.220
And they're just talking about, with bass coming out of, you have a 70% chance of rain.
01:39:10.080
Dude, one time, my dad, he would make us stand on the front seat when he would drive because
01:39:14.780
he had to, he had to tell him what to do, right?
01:39:16.800
And so, I was like, fuck, I don't know, five years.
01:39:18.900
What do you mean you had to tell him what to do?
01:39:20.720
Like, if the lights were red or green or whatever.
01:39:28.920
When we hit the road, it was a fucking team, dude.
01:39:32.780
You had to go, dad, the light's green, you can go?
01:39:44.500
And he just had that, he had that limited neck on him, you know?
01:39:48.360
And, uh, so I'd be over in the passenger seat, just like, you know, almost like the captain
01:40:04.680
I mean, she'd go, you know, she'd go work sometimes on other sales jobs, and I don't
01:40:10.080
know where she was, driving, selling something.
01:40:13.300
And, uh, one time my dad, like a black, a big crow came in the window and broke out some
01:40:20.520
And so I'm trying to tell my dad, I'm like, dad, there's a black bird in here.
01:40:27.940
Like, he was pretty, you know, I don't know if he was racist, but he was just like an old
01:40:34.140
So he had black friends, but he also, like, would say shit that was just something this
01:40:40.980
So he just starts, uh, he just starts yelling the N word, right?
01:40:48.160
He thinks it's a black guy breaking out the windows in the back of the car.
01:40:58.420
He's just yelling at shit, using all these expletives, bro.
01:41:06.960
I didn't realize it at the time, but it makes your mind like, you know, you have this weird
01:41:13.120
level, like this weird reality starts to form, you know?
01:41:29.760
And it should be this safe, comfortable thing that a child can operate in and, you know,
01:41:44.280
I used to, that's crazy that you said that because my hobby when I was a kid, I was always
01:41:56.600
But like I was three years old, my mom says, and I would run out of the house and ride into
01:42:04.480
We lived by a big old, I guess it was a four lane street then.
01:42:14.340
And my mom said they'd look and I wouldn't be in the house.
01:42:18.860
And there I was just standing in the street and going like this to the cars, like this.
01:42:28.300
And they'd go get me and beat my ass and drag me home.
01:42:45.980
When that little hook on the screen door wasn't on, they'd always put it on, you know.
01:42:50.560
But sometimes if I kicked it, it'd fly up and you could get out.
01:42:55.780
They'd run in the street and just go like this.
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But yeah, I used to love to walk down the streets and fucking put myself in the craziest shit.
01:43:55.500
Like to you, if something goes crazy, it's kind of a normal...
01:44:04.540
I want to have an effect somehow on what's going on.
01:44:07.420
I don't want somebody choosing how I affect things.
01:44:10.840
I want to affect things how I want to affect things.
01:44:13.820
I think that I was really crazy and thought I had some superpowers or something.
01:44:20.340
You know, like a lot of little kids will think that.
01:44:24.360
I think that I thought I had the power to stop traffic.
01:44:32.460
It was going to hit a three-year-old back then.
01:44:33.720
It's a good thing your fucking dad wasn't driving down this.
01:44:40.500
You wouldn't have been able to see me because I was beneath the hood there.
01:44:44.100
Just see two pigtails popping up over the hood.
01:44:48.120
When you look back on like your Hollywood career, do you miss it kind of?
01:44:52.260
I mean, I don't know if you get out of any bigger of a career really, huh?
01:44:56.980
I've had 44 million people a week watching my show, but there was only three channels or something.
01:45:02.580
And then coming back to 28 million, I think I've done it.
01:45:07.840
You know, I don't miss the process of being around people that don't respect me.
01:45:22.700
It's why people have had to start making their own things.
01:45:27.940
Like, I went to Hollywood, I think part of me wanted to have my own voice from where I was from.
01:45:33.100
I wanted to tell stories about where I was from and like share things that I thought were interesting.
01:45:37.960
And then you get there and they're like, you know, you should probably take an accent class so you don't have your accent.
01:45:45.120
You should do the, you know, and it was just like, fuck, man, I didn't, I felt of no value.
01:45:51.360
And then that's when like the things started getting like politically kind of divided.
01:45:56.920
And then just because I was from Louisiana and have a semblance of a Southern accent that people immediately just pigeonhole you.
01:46:06.500
Like, I don't know a Southern character that they've had on television in so long.
01:46:12.140
Like, so how do you like, and not that they have to have a Southern character, but.
01:46:20.000
You think that they would appreciate talent and want to nurture.
01:46:23.220
Like if I was the president of a network, that's what I would do.
01:46:28.060
She nurtured all of us along and we all looked and acted different.
01:46:32.740
That's what you do if you like talent, but they don't.
01:46:41.660
Even when you're watching films and television, you notice it now.
01:46:44.240
Like, like you take a guy like John Ritter, right?
01:47:02.560
And they'd give him wide shots and they'd let him behave and like, and you got to see somebody
01:47:09.980
Now everything's a lot more like we get this, we get this.
01:47:21.580
There's no people that have so many insane talents anymore.
01:47:28.200
Um, they don't push any boundary, you know, it's, I don't know, but I think that's why
01:47:35.680
That's why you have, um, people even starting their own comedy clubs in other places, you
01:47:42.560
Cause you, you push something down, it goes someplace else.
01:47:47.540
And I think maybe this lights the, you know, lights up the whole place where people can
01:47:56.000
Cause it was like kind of dead for a long time, like rock and roll, you know?
01:48:02.280
Just kind of over and over and over and country music too, over and over even rap stale.
01:48:09.320
And then all of a sudden the fuse gets lit and a whole bunch of new creative things happen.
01:48:18.840
When I watch these young people, I think that, well, that's new.
01:48:23.860
I haven't seen a guy do that or I haven't seen a woman do that before.
01:48:30.900
We need some new, we need some more, I don't want to say new, I mean, I don't know a ton
01:48:35.660
I know some, you know, um, I haven't been in the clubs as much recently.
01:48:39.920
So that's where you kind of meet a more up and coming comedians, but I would like to
01:48:45.660
That's something I don't think that I see enough of sometimes, or maybe I'm not familiar
01:48:50.420
Um, there's a lot of Hispanic comedians I've seen.
01:48:54.240
I'm, I really am liking the middle Eastern comedians too.
01:48:59.420
We got a guy this week, a son that's opening up for us that works here.
01:49:03.820
That's a new voice that we haven't heard a lot of.
01:49:16.160
You know, we put, when you start to limit people's words, or they said this, or they,
01:49:23.300
There's a, there's a part of us in humans that wants to, that wants to get out, you know?
01:49:28.220
And I think it will, I think it'll find its way out.
01:49:34.300
As comedians, we have to believe that, you know?
01:49:36.160
It's like, because, yeah, I think people look to us for like, how can we say this?
01:49:51.500
I'm like, how do I say, like, I know what I want to say.
01:49:54.360
How, how am I going to, where are the words, where are the words?
01:49:57.620
I got to get the words, you know, get the right words in the right order with the right rhythm.
01:50:02.640
And it's so hard, but it's like, you know, you're on that simmer, like on the stove.
01:50:13.960
And then you're just sitting there sometime cutting up a carrot and it's like, ping.
01:50:23.640
It's like, and it comes with an electric charge.
01:50:27.160
And you know, and especially the good, the neat thing about having done comedy for a while,
01:50:30.660
and I'm not saying you become like a savant or that you are a know-it-all, but you start
01:50:36.020
to know your own voice and your brain knows what will work on stage and you can get it
01:50:43.360
You don't even have to really try, you have to try it a few times to make sure and get
01:50:48.280
You can learn it off stage and like, that's it.
01:50:51.440
Did you ever go on a nice honeymoon whenever you were younger?
01:50:56.660
Um, the first time I got married to Jake's dad, um, we went to the justice of the peace
01:51:12.220
So we bought a garbage can and a case of beer and I bought a pair of white shoes.
01:51:20.540
And then we went home and we were really poor living in the mountains of Colorado and all
01:51:25.000
our friends had gifted us canned, canned goods for our wedding present.
01:51:30.880
And so we just stayed with our friends, like smoking a ton of pot and singing a lot of musicians
01:51:41.640
We camped out in tents and that was a good honeymoon.
01:52:07.340
As we were saying our vows, I was crying in the closet.
01:52:13.060
But I didn't want him to see me crying because he'd slap.
01:52:18.800
So I was like faking like I was, uh, and, uh, so, uh, we got married and, uh, oh my God,
01:52:42.200
As always happened with him, some hotel down there that had private swimming pools.
01:52:47.660
Cause I'm like, I gotta have a private swimming pool so I can swim.
01:52:50.900
Cause I, I'm not going to let nobody get a picture of me in my bathing suit because I
01:53:03.560
Is it fun if you're fat and you hug somebody else that's fat?
01:53:13.940
Plus it's nice to have another fat person who loves you because you know, everyone's so
01:53:20.340
And here we were like two big fat people telling each other that, oh, you look so great.
01:53:26.080
And you know, we, we were complimentary to each other for the most part with some dark
01:53:33.720
We beat the fuck out of each other, you know, which was fun.
01:53:38.440
But, uh, yeah, I mean, look at first, well, yeah, especially when you're from all types
01:53:43.940
of environments, somebody's got to get beaten every now and then.
01:53:48.560
But if he hit me back, it wasn't fun, you know, but anyways, uh, there was a lot of
01:53:56.580
But anyway, so there we were down there and, uh, I'm in the pool and, um, I look up and
01:54:03.320
it's ringed by photographers all the way around our room.
01:54:09.560
We had to order room service and the front desk called and he answered the phone and
01:54:14.940
they said, this is the front desk and your neighbors are complaining that you're eating
01:54:28.660
We were just eating up a storm, clanking dishes and the neighbors complained and he was on the
01:54:42.780
Then we went out in the pool and it was ringed by, uh, paparazzis.
01:54:47.440
Oh, so they always interfered and ruined everything, but it was fun.
01:54:53.760
The eating a bunch and swimming with no paparazzis was really fun honeymoon till they showed up.
01:54:59.700
And then I found out he told them where we were going to be, you know, he just really,
01:55:13.660
We don't talk no more, but anyways, then my third husband, Ben, his name is, I have a
01:55:28.860
Oh, we didn't go on a honeymoon because I was pregnant.
01:55:31.580
We, uh, we, uh, yeah, we just stayed home, I guess.
01:55:37.920
Uh, no, I guess I, I never really, except for that Mexico one, never did a real, real
01:55:52.660
Just go by myself, you know, by myself with a couple, you know, uh, bodyguards or what
01:55:59.680
have you, securities, do whatever the hell I want, pamper myself, look at art.
01:56:05.680
I did have a three month vacation and I, I saved up all my money, you know, when I, uh,
01:56:13.860
I did go to, uh, Europe for three months by myself.
01:56:20.240
And I went and looked at art and traveled all over, ate everything I could get my hands
01:56:30.300
And you lived in Hawaii for a long time, which is kind of like 15 years.
01:56:35.800
And I still live there part time there in, in Texas here.
01:56:50.380
If, yeah, I could imagine if, yeah, if you're like a, if you know more about Hawaii, I can
01:56:54.800
It's, it's, yeah, I went, it, I guess it is a lot of folks over there.
01:56:59.320
It takes too long to drive everywhere and stuff.
01:57:02.760
My Island is the big Island and it's got the least amount of people and the most amount
01:57:12.580
But, uh, nobody's around nobody and it's beautiful and quiet, you know, it's wonderful.
01:57:18.680
Oh, that's what I, that's the one reason I go there on my vacation was, um, because it
01:57:25.440
Like at nine o'clock I'm in, I am going, I'm a sleeper.
01:57:36.140
And the best part is I wake up in the middle of the night and it's only 1130.
01:57:44.620
Yeah, dude, I will have a little fucking smoothie sometimes, you know, I don't tell anybody.
01:57:48.820
I mean, it's just me anyway, but I still don't, I don't even tell myself.
01:57:53.080
You should come over and visit me on the big Island.
01:57:58.120
And if I'm there, you'll come over and I'll show you all my nut trees and my sheeps and
01:58:03.020
goats and all the run with pigs, but I got a beautiful place.
01:58:10.060
What caused you to make that choice to move there to get there?
01:58:12.680
Well, my younger son, now that he's 27, I can say he, he couldn't get along in school.
01:58:17.840
I homeschooled him and all stuff, which I'm going to talk about on my podcast.
01:58:21.880
I think people should pull their kids out of school and homeschool them.
01:58:25.240
So I did that for a few years and then he went back to high school and they had a high
01:58:29.900
school there for kids with learning disabilities.
01:58:48.820
They're all like Winnie the Poohs kind of a little bit.
01:58:52.780
They do have joy in them and they love their families.
01:58:59.020
They're always laughing and happy and, you know, even in, in tough times they're, they
01:59:10.680
Well, they're just like Jews is that they're just so family, you know?
01:59:20.000
We hate each other, but we still stick together.
01:59:23.500
What, uh, I love, I love talking about like Brian Dorfman and some of the other,
01:59:27.620
um, he and I love telling Jewish jokes to each other.
01:59:36.800
Cause I said, you got to help me write some Jewish jokes.
01:59:40.760
So I, I wasn't even raised in a Jewish culture beyond my own family and my own family is so
01:59:46.580
weird that there's no way to find anything in common with other Jewish people.
01:59:51.000
Like my family thought it was okay to marry your cousins and relatives and stuff like that.
01:59:55.520
And probably from where you're from, that's okay too.
02:00:01.280
But like the first thing when my mom said, she fixed me over the Jewish guy, my first
02:00:13.860
So I don't know if other people, but there's incest in the Jewish community too, right?
02:00:17.860
Oh, everyone's my, everyone's married to their cousin in my family.
02:00:22.840
That's why, that's one thing that's interesting about kind of like Southern culture and Jewish
02:00:32.960
My mom, she had a boyfriend and she goes, his name was Arnie Leibovitz, who I loved.
02:00:41.420
I was there for his death and his last words are the greatest last words anyone's ever
02:00:46.060
He turned around and he goes, whose idea was this?
02:00:57.360
But my mom said, we found out that we're from the same village in Lithuania and we might
02:01:10.820
I'm like, mom, it's not, that's not in the modern world.
02:01:15.080
That's not, you know, most people, that's a no, no.
02:01:19.960
People frown upon that, but there's something also that's-
02:01:26.300
Your second cousin is better than your first cousin.
02:01:29.000
Well, second cousin is legal in a lot of states.
02:01:31.260
You know, first cousin and they really, some people don't see it the way other people see
02:01:37.820
I think that's a lot of why Jews are fucked up, because they're so intermarried.
02:01:43.160
When I grew up, I was like, I can't wait to get out of here.
02:01:45.540
I'm going to marry every fucking Gentile I meet and have kids with them.
02:01:59.060
I have a lot of friends that are married in Jewish and Christian, like they're like Judeo-Christian
02:02:06.760
And they have some really awesome families I find a lot of times.
02:02:11.800
But having some good mix of things is interesting.
02:02:18.120
Oh, we're all going to be beige in a couple of years.
02:02:24.140
Oh, you can't even use a racial slur anymore and get it to land accurately.
02:02:28.160
Like I used to have a thing about these Arabs and they're, and I mixed them all up, like
02:02:33.280
I'd say bean-eating Arabs or something like that to mix it all up.
02:02:44.780
You have to have a, you got to carry the one, you know what I'm saying?
02:02:53.720
When I'm, a lot of times I'll just do all the racials just to get them out of my system.
02:03:05.020
Sometimes it makes my car go a little bit faster.
02:03:12.760
My sister's completely racist on Asian drivers because she lives up in San Francisco.
02:03:28.040
You used to be able to laugh at like, you used to trust a comedian enough.
02:03:32.560
That you knew, that they knew what was going on.
02:03:39.340
Now they've pitted an odd, they've pitted people against comedians in a way that they're like,
02:03:45.640
oh, the comedian's just saying something to be mean.
02:03:48.920
Yeah, but it always used to bring it around to where, hey, we all laughed at each other
02:04:02.140
It was so great because everybody was laughing at everybody and themselves.
02:04:09.580
Well, she, a lot of people accused her, I think, of like a cultural appropriate, like
02:04:12.600
she was like thicker, I think, you know, she lost a lot of weight.
02:04:16.020
And I think there were like black women, like thicker black women or something accused
02:04:18.920
her of like trying to take her body style or something, I remember.
02:04:26.940
And that's why I say in my act, that's our only hope is our hatred for each other.
02:04:33.220
When we harness that and get square behind it and realize we, all that hate that we have
02:04:40.980
for each other, if we would just channel that to the hatred of the people at the top and
02:04:46.380
not each other, because it's not each other we hate, we're both scrambling for beans.
02:04:50.660
Come on, people, hate, focus your hate at the top.
02:04:54.680
All that hate you have for your black neighbor or your Mexican neighbor, just congeal it.
02:05:01.780
Congeal it and focus it upward and we're going to have Valhalla.
02:05:09.560
We need an uprising of people to fucking stand up for themselves and stand up for their families
02:05:14.040
and stand up for what they really feel inside of themselves means something.
02:05:18.300
Yeah, you want your kids to be able to go out and you don't want to worry about other
02:05:24.360
People want to live in safety and they want to have decent communities with decent jobs
02:05:36.780
You know, it's just gridlock on purpose so they never have to fix nothing.
02:05:42.500
If the American people would just reach across that cultural or that racial line and get with
02:05:47.420
each other, we could get what we need and what we want.
02:05:51.660
But as long as they're dividing us and conquering us, we ain't going to do it.
02:05:55.300
So let's use, let's start telling racial jokes again.
02:06:04.900
So I'm like, well, since I'm there, let me tell you what really bugs me.
02:06:13.120
Like, uh, I have black friends that love, like, as long as you are respectful and smart
02:06:21.660
They can tell if you've been around black people.
02:06:26.420
Um, when I, I have a, uh, you know, I call him my son, but he's black, you know?
02:06:36.240
The same age as Buck and they kind of got raised together cause I'm good friends with
02:06:42.980
And, um, uh, you know, when they call me a racist, I, I was most worried about him because,
02:06:49.960
you know, he had to go with that in his community and hear it about me, you know, and I'm, I was
02:07:00.620
Um, and, uh, so we talked about it, you know, and I said, I can't remember what I said to
02:07:07.140
him, but he said to me, Oh, everybody knows the crazy shit you say, you know, that's what
02:07:21.200
But, um, that's where that had to make you feel pretty good then just to have some support.
02:07:27.660
Like it was funny and I go, why can you say that in public?
02:07:34.920
We need more black people need to speak up in some ways more.
02:07:39.420
Monique woke up for me to black people, which I just, um, that was brave of her.
02:07:47.480
And I always have her back to, we were like sisters in comedy, you know, but, uh, yeah,
02:07:54.640
uh, more people got to be sisters and brothers in something across racial lines here in America
02:07:59.760
before, you know, they're just going to take us all away one at a time.
02:08:03.960
That's what they're, that's what they want to do.
02:08:09.720
Let's, let's be real about the people at the top.
02:08:13.680
It's just that they're using people and pretend they're on your side.
02:08:19.560
They don't have a dog in the fight besides like a bottom line, like Pelosi's district
02:08:25.100
where she's talking about Trump's a racist and all this shit.
02:08:33.240
That's who lost their homes in the, uh, in the Obama bubble of 08.
02:08:41.200
And then they're calling Trump a racist when they have institutionalized racism with, by
02:08:45.800
this bubble they invented and these fake mortgages that they gave people.
02:08:52.140
That's institutionalized, you know, and then they're going to, you know, further try to
02:08:57.640
fuck with people and get them to hate on each other and fight.
02:09:06.620
They need to figure it out and teach their children.
02:09:11.020
I think people want to, you know, all they got to do.
02:09:20.880
The people with the money are, uh, you know, uh, putting their wagons in a circle and stealing
02:09:26.720
everything that ain't locked down, taking the public money and putting it into private pockets.
02:09:35.520
That's all there is until we go, Hey, you can't have our money anymore.
02:09:40.960
It's like time for another declaration of independence about this oppressive government.
02:09:45.620
That's no different from the government of King George that we broke away from years
02:09:50.000
What's why I'm so amazed when I see anybody that's speaking against the status quo of
02:09:55.260
whatever the status quo is supposed to be for their, uh, gender, ethnicity, creed, whatever
02:10:02.800
it's, but when you see someone that's kind of speak, trying to find a way against that,
02:10:07.180
um, those are the people that you have to look at and see, well, what are they saying?
02:10:11.800
You know, like it doesn't mean they're right, but they're not, their perspective is at least
02:10:16.320
enough to be able to see a broader picture, you know, sometimes, but not, you got to look
02:10:22.040
at like in America with this class war and how they disguise it.
02:10:26.820
Oh, like all, all the leaders, the only ways they can get ahead is by betraying their own
02:10:33.880
Like, you know, uh, black leaders to, uh, you know, use their own people for their self,
02:10:39.400
uh, enrichment, just like our Congress does for themselves.
02:10:44.400
It's us against you and Jewish leaders, uh, promoting anti-Jewish ideas on campus and stuff.
02:10:54.160
Um, people betraying their own people to be leaders of their own people and getting rich
02:11:04.580
You're not going to see nobody that goes, uh, you need to fix Chicago right now, Mr. Mayor.
02:11:14.680
You need to allocate these funds to updo these black people's homes, communities and schools
02:11:22.560
You won't see them doing that in Marxist Chicago.
02:11:26.300
That's the last thing Marxists ever do is address any problem.
02:11:31.180
All they want there in Chicago is to get at the retirement funds of the working class and
02:11:36.440
they are ripping them blind and they're going for social security next to blame it on Republicans,
02:11:42.240
but they all both blame each other and they're both fist in the money.
02:11:46.540
And we're just nothing but pray, particularly working people is nothing but pray.
02:11:52.160
Well, a lot of times if you're a working person, you're just in the distance.
02:11:54.380
You don't even have to, like, you're just trying to survive and get by, you know?
02:12:05.340
They're, they're not talking about the working people or nothing.
02:12:08.380
I just, I'm amazed that like in a place like Chicago where there's like, you know, there's
02:12:12.300
a lot of crime in some specific areas and some areas of Chicago are great.
02:12:15.360
You don't want to give the whole city a bad rap.
02:12:17.320
No, I'm just talking about the inner city where people are suffering like it's Syria.
02:12:23.360
New Orleans is one of the most dangerous cities in the world.
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It was just like one of the 30 most dangerous cities in the world, I believe.
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Can you look that up, Zach, too, just so I'm right on that or wrong on that?
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And I grew up, I wasn't, it was always a little edgy, but it's like you have, you know,
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and a lot of you have a lot of like impoverished black people killing each other.
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And it's sad and it's weird if I say that, that people are like, oh, he says that because
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I had two of my good friends growing up that were black that both died, right?
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I don't think enough about black culture as to why they do, why that's even going on.
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But it's like, I wish there were more insight from like black leaders and stuff.
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They don't address it because it's going the way the owners want it to go.
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It feels like people address something enough to get what they need out of it.
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It's like some people say, well, you can't really get in any power here unless you're
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blackmailed and they know you're going to do what they want you to do.
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You don't get in any office by getting elected.
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And, you know, they do what they have to do to put you in there to make them richer.
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And you bullshit the public so they'll be pacified.
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But the public doesn't even care that they don't or seemingly doesn't care or is too
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afraid to go, you're not representing the people who sent you there.
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Because I know when I was in Hawaii, Soros was pouring money into Hawaii for Monsanto.
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I remember we hit my sister with a fucking hot batch of it.
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I mean, I don't know if she'll ever recover from that, but she's in recovery for other stuff.
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Oh, then you start to see, yeah, these bigger groups are starting to like.
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He made, he, I said, by God, what he's doing, he's outlawing local government so that
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they are more beholden to international corporations and the county they live in.
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Well, it's the same with like that, with Dope Sick, that TV show with the pill opioid epidemic.
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It was like, you know, you have like these big pharmaceutical companies that people leave
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It's just like, so there's just so much, I don't know.
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I think in the end, it's like, why do people just want only for themselves?
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Like, and at a certain point, I can understand you want to survive.
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But then sometimes there's this other level of greed that I guess I just don't, I don't
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I don't understand how you could want to be so greedy at a level where other people aren't
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even having a, you know, that some effect you're causing or a part of causing is limiting
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people's ability to even have a life with some peace and excitement in it and real hope,
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You worry about other people's kids when your kids go out.
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That has to be part of your circle of concern too.
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I don't know if I romanticize the past sometimes too, but.
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But, you know, there's two, like the human beings, we have a desire to receive, you know,
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that's a part of our ego and our makeup and everything.
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And, you know, we want that gratified, of course.
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But there's another thing is like the desire to receive in order to share, which is a way
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better way to deal with that selfish thing that we have.
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Probably, probably smelled my breath after smoking all that.
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You know, the desire to receive something, be able to share.
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That feels so much better than anything else on earth.
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That is one thing I learned by getting rich because I was really poor, you know.
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And then when I got really rich, it was such a turn on to help people.
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I can't tell you, it was when, and it was, it was just better than anything.
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It was like a moment that stood out to you where just, you were able to be like just part
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of the conduit of help, you know, because that's all money is like energy kind of, you
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Well, there were, there was a few of them, but the biggest thrills I ever got for my
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own pleasures, as I tell people who know me as, uh, coming up with lawsuits.
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And then bankrolling them, you know, and then winning them.
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That, that was something that was great about having money.
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I'm sitting there getting all bitter and thinking, thinking, going deep and go, aha.
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And I did sue, you know, I sued and won against some tabloids and.
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And then sued Georgia and won and a whole bunch of shit like that, that I thought, well, you
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Um, I'd still like to continue to sue, sue, sue and pay for lawsuits.
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Like I'd love to sue every motherfucker that called me a racist and I keep on waiting for
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something to happen where, you know, guilty people who broke the law get arrested and
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So I already got like 10 lawsuits in my head for how I'm going to sue the news, the network,
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That's one of the things about life that gets tough sometimes.
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Um, I think it's inspiring for people to hear that there are people that think like there's
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some pressures in the world that feel uncomfortable.
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But we're trying to navigate with our little brains and our perspectives haven't had unique
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lives that have made us hyper aware sometimes of things.
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And it's been a struggle a lot, but there's some value in it, um, to think, well, what's
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Why are we starting to feel this way as a society?
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Is it some that I'm just getting older and I have like, you know, I think sometimes I'm
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just getting older and I'm like starting to become one of those older people, you know,
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that's like, oh, this is wrong and this is wrong.
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Or does it seem like there's really other bigger shit that's going on, you know, and
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Well, that's just part of growing, growing older.
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You know, you just settle into like a certain knowing and being able to identify things
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because you've seen them so many times, you can, you can sense where things are going
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because they can only go one of about three or four ways, you know, so you, you can sort
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of see where things are going right at the inception.
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So you kind of have the desire to go over there and kick it to the left or the right.
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Do you think, um, what's been one of the neatest things about being like a parent and
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Well, being a parent is wonderful when your kids turn out to be good members of society
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and they have a conscience and they're good people.
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And then when they're good parents, that's the best part of being a parent is to see
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Cause then, you know, oh, I did a good job, you know, and thank you God for keeping it
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And, uh, so that's good that, you know, when you're in your last quarter or whatever I'm
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in, but the grandparent thing, that's just pure fun.
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You get to be a kid again, you get to do all kinds of fun stuff.
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Like I live with my son and his, uh, partner and their two-year-old daughter who she looks
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And my son says, what kind of karma is this when you're raising your own mother?
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But, uh, so teaching her, just hanging out with her as a blast, like she likes to wear
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So we put on lipstick every day and do our hair and stuff like that.
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And then she likes me a lot and any, anything I do, she wants to do it with me.
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And, um, she's just learning to talk and stuff.
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Cause she likes to go out on the porch with me while I smoke and cause I let her play in
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But, you know, that she says, let's smoke is so cool.
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Like I'll chase her around the house and sing stupid songs and, you know, uh, hide and seek
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Like a kid when, before you had any cares, you get to redo that when you're a grandparent.
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And that's the most fun, your second or third childhood.
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But it's so fun, you know, watching cartoons with her and yeah, that's fun.
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Oh, she loves the turtles, the teenage ninjas, turtles.
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And, uh, my friend Greg Sipes is the voice of Michael.
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So I had him call her up and he goes, hi, Livia, this is Michael from the turtles.
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You do anything your Mimi says to do because she loves you and she knows what's right.
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But so I'll see you at whatever he says at the what's it and, uh, hoorah or whatever.
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And I get to dress her in her outfits every day and do her hair.
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She likes fashion and looking pretty and wearing my necklaces and such.
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But there's nothing more fun than being a kid and pretending.
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I like, I would suggest that people really start doing that more with their kids and their
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I think they're trying to take that away from us and, you know.
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But that's the most fun thing of being a human.
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It's where I had any chance at all in the world was my, in my imagination.
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One day these motherfuckers will know, you know, and I would.
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I'm going to come back here in a hot air balloon, you know.
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When was like, do you remember your first like kiss when you were a child?
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It's like, God, she's weird chewing on her hair over there.
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All my sexual lives for the most part were fucking disappointment.
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It was like you wanted me to go, you, you are ravishing.
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The most ravishing woman I've ever seen in my life.
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That almost happened to me one time in Paris, I have to say.
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I had like about 100 sparkly barrettes in my hair.
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I looked good, though, because I had done my hair in these weird, I was in a weird artistic
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And this guy came up and he said, will you go and have coffee with me?
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And he goes, please, I'd really love to take you for coffee.
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He goes, I've, I just, I'm just going to say it.
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You're the most beautiful woman I've ever seen in my life.
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But then I decided I better stay true to my fucking stupid ass spouse.
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He probably would have kicked me out the next day and go, you old bitch.
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You guys may have been, you guys could be lying in a field in Nice right now,
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eating grapes and reading Les Miserables together.
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J.D. Salinger is Franny and Zoe and Catcher in the Rye, which I've also read 10 times.
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But it was an uplifting moment that I'll never forget.
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Some people locked us in a closet or something.
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But they were just like, you know, idiots or whatever.
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I thought like, I don't want to get a chipped tooth.
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And I was like, I don't even know how this works.
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Oh, and then the rest of my life, I felt pressured to perform, dude.
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I was always taking them gas station wiener pills all the time.
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I know I got entangled in one of your soirees there at the comedy store.
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Remember, I got in between them two girls that was both there to see you.
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I was in there breaking up the fight in the bathroom.
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I was like, well, obviously, he's made a mistake.
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I mean, there's a lot of discrepancies in a lot of these stories, but I do remember
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that night that you came, and you went up, and that was awesome, dude.
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That was my first time on stage for f***ing a hundred years or something, and I was shit-faced
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because I was so scared, and I told my son, I will forever love you because you told me
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afterwards, you go, you might want to lay off on the drinking and your premises need work.
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You said you got a lot of laughs, but, you know, but that was what a comic says to a comic,
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I remember right after you got canceled, I hit, or whatever, and canceled is only care,
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the only people that care about it are Hollywood.
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Human beings, regular American, 95% of people don't give a f*** about that.
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That's what everybody, some people are still under this old ruse, like, that this trick
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works, or we have this shell game, but most people aren't even playing it anymore, you
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Like, my friend Morgan Walling got canceled, or whatever, and he's the number one selling
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Yeah, and it's like, I think it just made him only seem more human, right?
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He dropped an N-bomb on some white dude that was being a little bitch, right?
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And, yeah, and so it was like, and everybody loved him now, and not just white people,
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But, I don't know what else we were talking about.
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Oh, you said you wanted to do a show with me after I got canceled.
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There was a guy, maybe your agent or somebody that I was talking to.
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I did hear about it, and that made me feel so good.
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I think a lot of people, we just need your voice out there.
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I wondered if I would, because I was like, well, I go back for that shit.
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But, but once I got on, you know, the stage, it was like, I'm never leaving.
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In a weird way, are you feeling more empowered in some ways?
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Like, is it almost like a new, it must be like a new, what do I do now?
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How do I, what do, how do I best use my voice and have a purpose?
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And he called me, he was another kind person to call me.
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And we were talking about it, and we made a deal that we're going to come back.
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And we will both come back, and our vow to each other and to comedy was, we owe to come
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And not offensive, but braver, more courageous.
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And so I say, I said this to Tucker and to James O'Keefe, too.
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I said, at first you'll feel like, you know, I said, you'll look back after the storms passed,
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and you'll realize that God took you out of Egypt.
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And you might wander around in the desert for a while, but you will eventually come to the
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promised land, which is total artistic and creative freedom.
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And, you know, I think both of them are going to find that they agree with me, because when
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that noose is off your neck, you're just cut free, and you've got nothing but freedom,
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and you've still got a name, and you can come back, and you can be better than you ever
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Of course, you're going to be better after you, you know, whatever don't kill you makes
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So that's what happened to me, and I'm really grateful it did, because at some points, I
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didn't know if I would, but that's just part of the process of coming out of that dark night
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But we all got to go through it in order to come into the light again, you know.
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Well, it's the only way a good story is told, is if the person that's on the journey has
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There's no fucking, nobody wants a fucking full-time winner.
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The hero has to get back up, and with the strength and determination and support of the few that
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It's just, it's a great feeling to go on stage now, and just all the love that's shown to
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Yeah, and you're here, you have a playground here in Texas, here at this club, where you
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It's so great to be able to bomb sometimes, not have, you know, not have to be, to experiment.
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Yeah, and on behalf of me and my mother and our family for giving us so much joy over the
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years, this is the interview my mother was most excited about.
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You brought us a lot of joy over the years, and I think gave us a way to connect, you
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know, because my mother was just a hard-working lady who was trying to make things okay, you
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Well, you tell her for me that she raised a wonderful son.
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Roseanne Barr, thank you so much for your time.
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Now, I'm just floating on the breeze, and I feel I'm falling like these leaves I must be.
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Oh, but when I reach that ground, I'll share this peace of mind I found.