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00:03:09.380 Today's guest is a comedian.

00:03:11.260 He's a podcaster.

00:03:13.700 He's an, I think I would say he's an enlightened being.

00:03:17.560 He has his own podcast called The Duncan Trussell Family Hour.

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00:03:25.180 He's one of a kind.

00:03:26.660 Today's guest is my friend, Mr. Duncan Trussell.

00:03:29.820 Shine that light on me

00:03:33.740 I'll sit and tell you my stories

00:03:39.460 Shine on me

00:03:44.460 And I will find a song

00:03:48.660 I've been singing

00:03:49.860 I'm up to you

00:03:51.220 And now I've been moving way too fast

00:03:59.260 You know, they had a man by us that, uh,

00:04:01.860 they found a Korean guy who had been hiding, I guess, in the ceiling of the YMCA.

00:04:07.680 What?

00:04:08.680 Yeah, this was in, um, Santa Monica.

00:04:12.680 They found a Korean in the ceiling.

00:04:15.680 And so they, uh, they shut everything down.

00:04:18.680 One time, like, the police came in and raided him.

00:04:20.680 He'd been going there for years, you know, he'd been, like, sneaking.

00:04:24.680 He's like one of those, you know, people are, uh, what's that new thing?

00:04:30.680 People are hiding in people's homes or whatever?

00:04:32.680 Nesting.

00:04:33.680 Nesting.

00:04:34.680 Yeah.

00:04:35.680 Yeah, nesting, yeah.

00:04:36.680 They nest in your house.

00:04:37.680 You don't know.

00:04:38.680 They come down and drink your milk.

00:04:39.680 Right, sorry.

00:04:40.680 Yeah, that's what's going on.

00:04:41.680 It's like there was, and this guy was nesting, um, in the YMCA.

00:04:48.680 Not a bad place to nest.

00:04:50.680 Oh, no.

00:04:51.680 And I would, I remember I saw him for years.

00:04:53.680 Sorry, Zach.

00:04:54.680 Uh, I was a bit abrupt there.

00:04:55.680 I'm having a long, I'm having a long day and it's only this time.

00:04:57.680 You are, Theo.

00:04:58.680 What happened?

00:04:59.680 Well, there's fucking people in the ceiling, brother.

00:05:01.680 There's people in my ceiling right now, you know?

00:05:03.680 There's squatters.

00:05:04.680 I got Koreans in my brain.

00:05:05.680 I got brothers in my head.

00:05:06.680 Who knows what else?

00:05:07.680 Yeah, man, it would be so wonderful to have some brain scanning device that showed you

00:05:13.680 a visual depiction of all the various entities, whatever they may be, whether it's, you know,

00:05:18.680 psychological structures or authentic demons.

00:05:21.680 So you could just get the rundown, like when you get blood tests, you know?

00:05:25.680 Yeah.

00:05:26.680 Because then you'd know.

00:05:27.680 You'd know like why you're acting the way you act sometimes.

00:05:29.680 Not you specifically, but you know, when the monster pops out.

00:05:33.680 Oh, I, I think that that's, I, you know, I wonder a lot if we do, I was just talking

00:05:38.680 about this with on Rogan the other day, if the, if we do enough of the right testing,

00:05:42.680 like, like we take people's temperature, like that's such a temperature is such a, who

00:05:48.680 cares?

00:05:49.680 You can almost guess it, you know, if you're just, if you're anybody with a thermometer

00:05:53.680 or with two cents, you know?

00:05:55.680 Finger?

00:05:56.680 Yeah.

00:05:57.680 Like you could be, you could touch somebody like, Oh, you're warm or you're cold.

00:05:59.680 You know, you're dead.

00:06:00.680 You're alive.

00:06:01.680 You know, it's like, but I feel like it, we just, we have such primitive testing.

00:06:06.680 It still feels like that we're allowed to see.

00:06:08.680 Right.

00:06:09.680 I would love to know.

00:06:10.680 Yeah.

00:06:11.680 What's what the, who's in here today?

00:06:13.680 Right.

00:06:14.680 What skeletons are out?

00:06:15.680 Yeah.

00:06:16.680 What unaddressed trauma is about to explode out of me in the middle of traffic.

00:06:22.680 Yeah.

00:06:23.680 And then you'll know, and then maybe it won't happen.

00:06:25.680 But this is, yeah, I, man, it's, you know, I think the testing we have on the human body

00:06:32.680 is pretty remarkable, right?

00:06:33.680 Like you can do, like, you don't even have to get the, uh, what the prostate thing, you

00:06:38.680 know, where they shove the tube and cut the polyps.

00:06:41.680 It's disgusting.

00:06:42.680 It's like a haircut for your intestines.

00:06:44.680 I got to get one soon, but the, you could just do like some test that tells you if you

00:06:50.680 know, you've got a problem.

00:06:52.680 Yeah.

00:06:53.680 You've got to get the Michael Jackson drug and then have this long tube that your doctor

00:07:00.680 is weirdly like excited to tell you about.

00:07:03.680 Yeah.

00:07:04.680 He's listening to Billie Jean while he puts it in you.

00:07:06.680 My doctor was so excited.

00:07:10.680 He's like, you'll be able to see your appendix.

00:07:12.680 Like I don't want to see my fucking appendix.

00:07:14.680 I never want to see it.

00:07:15.680 I want to die without seeing my appendix.

00:07:17.680 Yeah.

00:07:18.680 But anyway, now they can just test it.

00:07:20.680 I can't remember what the name of it is.

00:07:21.680 It's the worst commercial on TV.

00:07:22.680 It's like a, like a, an annoying corrective animation, like interrupts people when they're

00:07:28.680 swimming.

00:07:29.680 And it's like, have you had your asshole checked?

00:07:31.680 Yeah.

00:07:32.680 It's a stupid commercial.

00:07:33.680 But the point is if they can do that, it's interesting.

00:07:35.680 The mind, the mind is like the ocean.

00:07:38.680 You know, we have no idea what's going on in there.

00:07:41.680 Like it's the biggest part of planet earth and we barely know what's down there.

00:07:46.680 Yeah.

00:07:47.680 It's really curious.

00:07:48.680 Well, in the ocean too, man, the ocean, a lot of it is, uh, most of the animals are by

00:07:52.680 the edge.

00:07:53.680 Yeah.

00:07:54.680 Right.

00:07:55.680 Like the, you're talking like down there in those thermal vents, it starts low population

00:07:59.680 density.

00:08:00.680 And what is down there is like terror is terrifying.

00:08:04.680 Well, it's the same type of people that live.

00:08:06.680 I think if you get out in a very rural Utah or you get out into like, you go deep into

00:08:12.680 the mountains or into some caverns or something, you find some real cryptic homies out there.

00:08:18.680 Oh my dude.

00:08:19.680 You know, I, when I was in Asheville, uh, the last day of my kid's preschool, right before

00:08:24.680 we left, I met a psychologist whose job was to go out into deep Appalachia.

00:08:31.680 And like, you know, it's, that's where all his clients were.

00:08:34.680 And just what you're saying, like the stuff going on out there is crazy.

00:08:39.680 Like he was telling me one of his patients took a scythe and went to this dude's trailer

00:08:46.680 where I guess he's sitting watching TV and use the scythe to cut through the trailer into

00:08:53.680 into the suit's back.

00:08:55.680 Like.

00:08:56.680 Oh, it came through the wall.

00:08:57.680 It came through the wall.

00:08:58.680 The wall with a scythe.

00:08:59.680 Oh.

00:09:00.680 You're just watching like American Ninja Challenge and a scythe comes through your fucking trailer.

00:09:06.680 But how interactive is that?

00:09:07.680 I mean, you couldn't, no matter what cable you paid for, rarely would you be watching American

00:09:13.680 Ninja and then an actual bootleg fucking meth ninja rolls up with a scythe and cracks through

00:09:23.680 your homestead.

00:09:24.680 Like 80% moonshine just, just filled with that kind of moonshine that makes your eyes turn

00:09:30.680 white.

00:09:31.680 Yeah, dude.

00:09:33.680 Something sparks in his brain.

00:09:35.680 He's like, I'm going to do it today.

00:09:37.680 And he goes and scythes someone's trailer.

00:09:40.680 It's a, it's, it's crazy.

00:09:41.680 That's our minds.

00:09:42.680 They, we have our back roads and we have our dark bowers and secret places.

00:09:48.680 Some people never, ever even know.

00:09:50.680 They just think they're like the first thing that comes to their mind.

00:09:53.680 They don't know that like, there's a lot of shit.

00:09:56.680 Yeah.

00:09:57.680 They don't know that there's people pushing people to the front of the class to say something.

00:10:00.680 They think that, oh, that's the first thought I had, but they don't know there's all these

00:10:03.680 dark arts in the distance pushing people forward.

00:10:06.680 I think my mind a lot of time is like, what's that black street that they burned down or whatever,

00:10:11.680 Zach, that was like a holly, that was like black.

00:10:13.680 It was like fancy.

00:10:15.680 It was like the first black, like main street.

00:10:20.680 Uh, you talking about black wall street in Tulsa?

00:10:24.680 Yeah.

00:10:25.680 That was, yeah, I can pull that.

00:10:26.680 They burned it down.

00:10:27.680 They burned it down a long time ago.

00:10:28.680 I'm not sure what exactly happened.

00:10:30.680 Um, it may have been racism.

00:10:33.680 It may have just been fireworks.

00:10:35.680 I don't know what it was.

00:10:37.680 White residents attack black residents, homes and businesses as well as public institutions

00:10:41.680 in Greenwood district of Tulsa, Oklahoma, an oil boom city.

00:10:46.680 Black Wall Street, one of the wealthiest black communities.

00:10:48.680 So it was like kind of your early Atlanta.

00:10:50.680 Jesus Christ.

00:10:51.680 They burned it all down.

00:10:53.680 Yeah, the property loss.

00:10:55.680 35 blocks were systematically looted and burned.

00:10:58.680 Um, yeah, I don't know.

00:11:03.680 Does it say why they did this?

00:11:06.680 I'm guessing it's not fireworks.

00:11:08.680 Yeah.

00:11:09.680 This looks more like probably racism.

00:11:11.680 Mobs of white residents.

00:11:15.680 The Red Cross provided relief.

00:11:17.680 Uh, do you see any, if you, if you see something Zach, let me know.

00:11:20.680 Won't you peep on it while we're, um, but that's what kind of my head is.

00:11:25.680 You know, I remember going to the doctor one time when I was young and the guy, they put

00:11:30.680 that thing in your head.

00:11:31.680 That little looker, you know, the looker.

00:11:35.680 It like it.

00:11:36.680 Oh, the ear looker.

00:11:37.680 Yeah.

00:11:38.680 Stethoscope.

00:11:39.680 It's called an ear looker.

00:11:40.680 Stethoscope.

00:11:41.680 Yep.

00:11:42.680 Ear looker.

00:11:43.680 Yeah.

00:11:44.680 I got it.

00:11:45.680 Well, I know it.

00:11:46.680 Yeah.

00:11:47.680 Stethoscope.

00:11:48.680 They put it in there and the guy was like, Oh, you got a bunch of, uh, brothers in your head.

00:11:49.680 Right.

00:11:50.680 But he said the N word, right?

00:11:51.680 The doctor.

00:11:52.680 Yeah.

00:11:53.680 And he, I was like, and he was just joking around, I guess, you know, but I, it was like,

00:11:58.680 I didn't know what was going on.

00:12:00.680 How old were you?

00:12:01.680 I was probably nine or 10, you know, just think of that dude.

00:12:05.680 Like imagine being that doctor looking in a kid's ear.

00:12:09.680 And that is what makes sense for you to say.

00:12:13.680 Yeah.

00:12:14.680 And that's a doctor.

00:12:15.680 He looked in, he's like, Oh, you got a bunch of N words in your head.

00:12:17.680 And I was like, Whoa, Whoa.

00:12:19.680 What the fuck?

00:12:20.680 Yeah.

00:12:21.680 Well, tell him to come out, dude.

00:12:22.680 At least like, you know, let's get on a first name basis.

00:12:25.680 But it blew my mind.

00:12:27.680 I think he was trying to like make my dad laugh or something, you know, it was just back

00:12:30.680 in the days when there was just kind of semi casual racism, right?

00:12:34.680 You know, I mean, that's not even semi casual racism.

00:12:37.680 That's like, I mean, if we're going to like analyze racism, that's pretty hardcore.

00:12:42.680 Like, and that, it sounds like a joke.

00:12:44.680 He makes like, that's just his, one of the funny bedside manner things.

00:12:49.680 He does when he's with nine-year-olds like that generally cracks nine-year-olds up.

00:12:53.680 I guess it would terror.

00:12:55.680 It would probably terrify me.

00:12:56.680 Oh, I didn't know what was going on.

00:12:58.680 I didn't know if like half of like in living color was living.

00:13:00.680 There's humans in my ear.

00:13:02.680 What are you talking?

00:13:03.680 You're a doctor.

00:13:04.680 I'm going to trust you.

00:13:06.680 Whoa.

00:13:07.680 Yeah.

00:13:08.680 That was great.

00:13:09.680 Yeah.

00:13:10.680 It was just kind of the environment around us.

00:13:12.680 I think.

00:13:13.680 At least you remembered it, man.

00:13:14.680 Like that's the problem is like stuff happens like that to you when you're a kid and you

00:13:17.680 forget it and then you get this like weird little limp, like a micro limp, a weird little

00:13:23.680 like you have anxiety attacks when you see ear lookers or you, you don't know why.

00:13:28.680 That's the problem.

00:13:29.680 We forget.

00:13:30.680 The mind forgets, but a lot of stuff just gets in there.

00:13:34.680 Just gets in.

00:13:35.680 Dude.

00:13:36.680 I was like a few months ago.

00:13:40.680 I don't know.

00:13:41.680 I mean, I, you know, I've done psychedelics my whole life.

00:13:43.680 So like if I get a little wobbly generally, I'm just like, all right, whatever.

00:13:46.680 You're wobbly today.

00:13:48.680 But I was like particularly like weird.

00:13:51.680 Like I was off.

00:13:52.680 I don't know how off you get, but I was like off off.

00:13:54.680 And my wife was like, what's going on with you?

00:13:57.680 And I'm, you know, doing the Rolodex.

00:13:59.680 If I've been eating a lot of edibles, I'm getting enough sleep, you know, and like everything

00:14:04.680 pretty normal.

00:14:05.680 And then I'm like, fuck.

00:14:08.680 I Google search because I try not to remember it when my mom died that day.

00:14:12.680 No.

00:14:13.680 Didn't remember it.

00:14:14.680 Didn't remember the date, but my body remembered it.

00:14:18.680 And like, I talked to my friend who's a psychiatrist.

00:14:20.680 He's like, yeah, that's seasonal triggers.

00:14:22.680 They like activate people's grief.

00:14:25.680 And some people don't even know that's what's happening.

00:14:27.680 Wow.

00:14:28.680 It's so wild, man, that that's just stored in us forever.

00:14:32.680 And what else is in there?

00:14:33.680 Yeah.

00:14:34.680 Like, surely it's not just the worst thing that happened to you.

00:14:37.680 It's probably lighter shades of things that, and you think that's your personality.

00:14:42.680 It's just triggers.

00:14:43.680 Yeah.

00:14:44.680 A lot of our personality is basically, it's the foliage that's built upon the sediment

00:14:49.680 of the things that have happened to us as we grew.

00:14:51.680 Yeah, man.

00:14:52.680 Yeah.

00:14:53.680 No, it's really fascinating.

00:14:54.680 I think.

00:14:55.680 Yeah.

00:14:56.680 I wonder how many, two of those things can be like triggers from previous generations,

00:15:01.680 even, you know?

00:15:02.680 Yeah.

00:15:03.680 Right.

00:15:04.680 I mean, I think there's a lot of investigation into that now.

00:15:06.680 Epigenetics.

00:15:07.680 Yeah.

00:15:08.680 And also, I mean, you see like a zygote or something, or what's that beautiful rock?

00:15:12.680 Ever bought one of those beautiful rocks?

00:15:14.680 And you crack it open and it's got damn magic in it.

00:15:17.680 Geodes.

00:15:18.680 It's just geodes.

00:15:19.680 Yeah.

00:15:20.680 So cool.

00:15:21.680 God, and you're like, wow, this is in there, you know?

00:15:24.680 Yeah, right.

00:15:25.680 Yeah, right.

00:15:26.680 It's not all horrible shit inside of us.

00:15:28.680 I mean, it's, that's the, that's the thing.

00:15:30.680 Yeah.

00:15:31.680 Like underneath all the, whatever the weird neurotic foliage you have is like for a lot

00:15:35.680 of people, there's, there's like things like that.

00:15:37.680 Oh yeah.

00:15:38.680 And these are a lot of women that, you know, that didn't have kids or whatever end up loving

00:15:41.680 these things.

00:15:42.680 What?

00:15:43.680 Geodes?

00:15:44.680 I didn't know that.

00:15:45.680 Is that true?

00:15:46.680 Yeah.

00:15:47.680 These are like the Pringles for women that couldn't, you know, like, didn't have a child.

00:15:52.680 I did not know that man.

00:15:54.680 That's cool.

00:15:55.680 Yeah.

00:15:56.680 I didn't, I guess I get it.

00:15:57.680 It's kind of like a womb.

00:15:58.680 It's like this universe in a womb or something.

00:16:01.680 Well, if you really think about what would life be like, right?

00:16:04.680 If you thought about life.

00:16:05.680 Yeah.

00:16:06.680 Cause I'm sure if you say you saw a little bit of bat, a little bucket of uterus or a

00:16:10.680 bucket of, uh, not uterus, but what's the placenta, right?

00:16:13.680 If you saw a little placenta on the ground, you'd be like, uh, look, if you didn't know

00:16:16.680 it was placenta, say you're walking by, you'd be like, Oh my God.

00:16:19.680 Have you seen live placenta?

00:16:21.680 A hippopotamus sneezed over here.

00:16:23.680 No, dude.

00:16:24.680 When I saw placenta for the first time when my wife gave birth, it's an alien.

00:16:31.680 Like that is not of this world.

00:16:34.680 It's the, it's the craziest thing you've ever seen.

00:16:38.680 And it's just, they just grow that man.

00:16:41.680 They can just do that.

00:16:42.680 It's an organ that they grow and then, and then eject.

00:16:46.680 It's nuts.

00:16:47.680 Who does it?

00:16:48.680 Who does what?

00:16:49.680 Grows it.

00:16:50.680 Well, I mean, I'm assuming like it's something, you know, the DNA.

00:16:55.680 It's like, you know, once you get, once you're pregnant, it just sort of, it just, you, their

00:16:59.680 body's not.

00:17:00.680 Oh, women.

00:17:01.680 Who did you think I said?

00:17:02.680 I don't know.

00:17:03.680 I thought someone was growing it somewhere.

00:17:04.680 My friend's a placenta farmer.

00:17:06.680 And he invited me over and it was just, you, they grow it in aquariums, lots of jizz.

00:17:11.680 Lots of jizz.

00:17:12.680 It's basically jizz and honey.

00:17:14.680 And like, you know, depending like everyone has a different recipe.

00:17:17.680 Yeah.

00:17:18.680 You have a bunch of, there's a bunch of Asians beating the rice off of it out in like little

00:17:21.680 boats.

00:17:22.680 There's, there's all kinds of ways to make placenta these days, especially my grandmother's

00:17:27.680 placenta recipe is insane.

00:17:28.680 Oh yeah, dude.

00:17:29.680 Yeah.

00:17:30.680 I've had paella.

00:17:31.680 I've had placenta.

00:17:32.680 It's like, just depends on the holiday.

00:17:35.680 Oh my God.

00:17:36.680 When you get a wonderful placenta, it's just so, it's so great.

00:17:39.680 Harder to find these days.

00:17:40.680 I don't mean to be like an old man and complain, but when I was younger, you would get like much

00:17:44.680 better placenta.

00:17:45.680 Oh, the Christmas placenta my grandparents would bring over.

00:17:48.680 Oh dear God.

00:17:49.680 Oh my God.

00:17:50.680 The smell of fresh placenta bubbling on the stove.

00:17:54.680 Cinnamon.

00:17:55.680 Yes nuts roasting on an open fire.

00:17:58.680 God, it was good.

00:17:59.680 And my grandmother would put cinnamon on hers.

00:18:02.680 Are you kidding me?

00:18:03.680 Mm-mm.

00:18:04.680 It's so interesting, man.

00:18:05.680 It's so interesting.

00:18:06.680 Yeah.

00:18:07.680 So this was like a big, in my family over Christmas dinner, my grandma, my grandfather was like,

00:18:13.680 why don't we add cinnamon to the placenta?

00:18:16.680 And like my grandmother just started weeping and walked out of the room.

00:18:19.680 So ever since then, I've been afraid to try it, but I've heard it gets you super high.

00:18:22.680 Yeah.

00:18:23.680 It's a real, I mean, it's brought families together for years.

00:18:26.680 I think.

00:18:27.680 Yeah.

00:18:28.680 I think it's an American tradition.

00:18:29.680 I don't know why people are against it.

00:18:30.680 It's just like, what?

00:18:31.680 You can, you can adapt.

00:18:32.680 You can adjust.

00:18:33.680 Yeah.

00:18:34.680 Have you ever read Grapes of Wrath?

00:18:35.680 Dude, if we, that book was a half chapter away from them eating a bowl of boiled placenta.

00:18:40.680 That's right.

00:18:41.680 Yeah.

00:18:42.680 Just eat it, eat the placenta, eat whatever you want.

00:18:44.680 I mean, the last page of that book, they're breastfeeding off their own sibling, I think,

00:18:49.680 because they were so starving in that book.

00:18:52.680 Well, I mean, did you hear like when they recovered Jim Morrison's body in the bathtub in Paris, his mouth was full of placenta.

00:19:00.680 Oh.

00:19:01.680 A lot of people think it was heroin that killed him, but like he got high and choked on placenta.

00:19:06.680 Oh.

00:19:07.680 Like Parisian placenta.

00:19:08.680 Ooh.

00:19:09.680 Which is good.

00:19:10.680 Oh, yeah.

00:19:11.680 Not to sound snobby, but I don't think anything beats the placenta of France.

00:19:16.680 Yeah.

00:19:17.680 You sound exactly like someone serving placenta in Paris.

00:19:25.680 You've done this.

00:19:26.680 You've been on the placenta tours.

00:19:27.680 I went on a whole placenta bike tour of Paris.

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00:22:39.680 That's great, dude.

00:22:40.680 Yeah, placenta, man.

00:22:42.680 So you saw it, though, when your wife had it.

00:22:44.680 Oh, yeah.

00:22:45.680 You see it.

00:22:46.680 Yeah, you see it.

00:22:47.680 I mean, you save it.

00:22:48.680 These days, they're actually recommending that you save the placenta.

00:22:54.680 I think it's the placenta.

00:22:55.680 Like, the idea is, like, in the placenta, I could be wrong about this.

00:22:58.680 Maybe it's the umbilical cord.

00:23:00.680 There's stem cells that, theoretically, in the next 10, 20 years, if you have access to

00:23:06.680 your stem cells from when you were first born, you could, like, reverse the aging process.

00:23:13.680 So lots of people who can afford it are saving their stem cells, their placenta.

00:23:18.680 I can't remember.

00:23:19.680 There's a name for it.

00:23:20.680 I think it's called cord blood.

00:23:21.680 But all that stuff, like, they cryogenically freeze it, and then down the line, theoretically,

00:23:26.680 you could, like, heal yourself.

00:23:29.680 You could grow your body better.

00:23:31.680 Oh, I would use that in a heartbeat, I think.

00:23:32.680 I would, too.

00:23:33.680 What is that?

00:23:34.680 What are we saving, Zach?

00:23:35.680 Do you have any information on that?

00:23:36.680 Yeah, cord blood is the right word, but it is, people do, like, save and eat the placenta.

00:23:40.680 Or bury it.

00:23:42.680 I have a picture of a placenta if you want to see it.

00:23:44.680 I would love to.

00:23:45.680 It's kind of strong, though.

00:23:47.680 Yeah.

00:23:48.680 Okay.

00:23:49.680 Yeah.

00:23:50.680 Wow.

00:23:51.680 And is that cooked or not cooked?

00:23:52.680 Bring it back up?

00:23:53.680 That looked like raw placenta.

00:23:54.680 That's raw.

00:23:55.680 Yeah, that's probably Chef Anthony Bourdain's kitchen.

00:24:00.680 Or a cooking show or something.

00:24:03.680 Oh, yeah.

00:24:04.680 This looks like a little bit.

00:24:05.680 Yeah.

00:24:06.680 This ain't no Wolfgang Puck.

00:24:07.680 This looks like hot.

00:24:08.680 This looks like real.

00:24:09.680 People do eat this, though.

00:24:10.680 You're right.

00:24:11.680 I've heard that in LA, like, women save the placenta and literally put it in, like, smoothies.

00:24:14.680 Like, people, they'll, like, incorporate it into daily eating.

00:24:18.680 Well, there's a new purse, too.

00:24:19.680 I think they're doing a purse now.

00:24:21.680 You know what?

00:24:22.680 The purse is beautiful.

00:24:23.680 Gucci has a wonderful placenta purse for this season, a summer placenta purse.

00:24:27.680 But here's what happens, and it's a real problem, is that people bury their placenta,

00:24:34.680 and they have a little ceremony for it.

00:24:36.680 But they don't bury it deep enough, and their dogs dig it up.

00:24:39.680 Oh.

00:24:40.680 So, like, you're, like, sitting down to watch TV, and you look, and, like, there's, like,

00:24:45.680 half of eating placenta on your couch.

00:24:47.680 Oh.

00:24:48.680 So, you got to put it in a box or bury it deep, because dogs just love placenta.

00:24:55.680 Who, I, yeah, I can't even, it's everything, yeah, it's everything a dog would want.

00:25:00.680 It has blood in it.

00:25:01.680 It's, like, from the crotch area.

00:25:03.680 You know, it's, like, dogs love all that.

00:25:05.680 Oh, my God.

00:25:06.680 Oh, my God.

00:25:07.680 Yeah.

00:25:08.680 It's, oh, yes, it's literally a dog's dream food.

00:25:11.680 Yeah.

00:25:12.680 For sure.

00:25:13.680 I, uh, yeah, I, I do think it is kind of fascinating, though, that we don't have a,

00:25:20.680 like, are we missing levels of ourselves in basic scans and information that, like, how

00:25:27.680 close are we to be able to do a scan, an MRI that tells us what's going on with ourselves

00:25:35.680 at some different levels?

00:25:36.680 Like an emotional CAT scan.

00:25:38.680 Yeah.

00:25:39.680 Emotional seems to be the level that seems to be a lot of the realm that we're really

00:25:43.680 missing, I feel like, when it comes to, uh, um, uh, like, uh, diagnoses.

00:25:51.680 Yeah, for sure.

00:25:52.680 Yeah, for sure.

00:25:53.680 Because, I mean, all the psychologist has to go on is what the patient is telling them,

00:25:58.680 right?

00:25:59.680 That's it.

00:26:00.680 You, you can't, you can't do anything other than that.

00:26:02.680 Or, like, past behaviors, or, you know, but still, you don't know.

00:26:05.680 Yeah.

00:26:06.680 I mean, this is, to me, the astounding part of being human, is we're choosing to behave

00:26:13.680 the way we do.

00:26:14.680 Like, like, you will, many times I would like to think, I didn't really have a choice

00:26:19.680 there.

00:26:20.680 Like, that just was a reaction to an event that spontaneously erupted out of me.

00:26:25.680 But if you kind of mindfully study your worst moments, most of the time you'll realize there

00:26:33.680 was like a micro moment where you decided to, like, do your defense mechanism that always

00:26:40.680 hurts people's feelings or gives you a feeling later of guilt or something.

00:26:46.680 There's this weird microsecond where you decide to do it.

00:26:48.680 Like, your brain is some kind of computer, and it spits, it's like choose your own adventure.

00:26:54.680 And it spits out a few options, and you pick the most annoying, aggressive, shitty one.

00:27:00.680 Yes, I do.

00:27:01.680 You chose to do it.

00:27:02.680 You know, you weren't possessed.

00:27:04.680 Right.

00:27:05.680 But the choice happened so quick that you could easily miss the choice.

00:27:08.680 That's what's cool about it is you don't have to be the way you are at all.

00:27:12.680 Change your clothes, change your haircut, get a face tattoo, whatever you want.

00:27:17.680 You could do whatever you want, but we're addicted to being us.

00:27:20.680 You know?

00:27:21.680 It's so habitual.

00:27:22.680 Wow.

00:27:23.680 You know, and it's one thing I noticed with doing meditation, right, that starts to help

00:27:27.680 me is I'm not just, like, in the carriage of the roller coaster I'm on.

00:27:36.680 I'm not just, because usually I'm so attached to my own life, I'm like, oh, this is what,

00:27:41.680 but if I do some meditation, even for a couple weeks, I start to have a little bit more separation

00:27:47.680 from me and what I'm doing, so I'm like, oh, I do have a little bit more choice.

00:27:54.680 I can see a little bit more how I'm behaving instead of just behaving.

00:28:00.680 Like, if you're always upset, if you're always anything, or if you feel like you are just

00:28:06.680 constantly in response to some choices that you're making and you're like, fuck, I don't

00:28:12.680 know what's going on.

00:28:14.680 Right.

00:28:15.680 Meditation has always given me a little bit of a step back where it's like, oh, I'm not

00:28:19.680 always just the guy sitting in the roller coaster car about to go on the ride.

00:28:25.680 Now, sometimes I'm the person waiting by the side of it.

00:28:28.680 Like, I'm the conductor a little.

00:28:30.680 Yeah.

00:28:31.680 It's like, oh, interesting.

00:28:32.680 God.

00:28:33.680 Roller coaster is a great way to describe it, man.

00:28:35.680 There's a lot of antiquated ways of describing it.

00:28:38.680 A chariot attached to, like, the most powerful horses.

00:28:43.680 And if you can't control them, you're going to get dragged.

00:28:46.680 Wild elephant.

00:28:47.680 Oh.

00:28:48.680 Wild elephant.

00:28:49.680 But, you know, that's a, you know, this is an Eastern, you have to grow up in India

00:28:52.680 to even know, like, what that means.

00:28:54.680 I mean, I've seen videos of wild elephants.

00:28:55.680 They're not great.

00:28:56.680 Yeah.

00:28:57.680 But roller coaster, that's fucking awesome, man.

00:29:00.680 Roller coaster.

00:29:01.680 That's the new description of the...

00:29:02.680 Smooth operator.

00:29:03.680 Yeah.

00:29:04.680 It's good.

00:29:05.680 Roller coaster.

00:29:06.680 Yeah.

00:29:07.680 But just not being so attached to myself, I will say that that's the only time I'm able

00:29:11.680 to get any insight into, like, wow, look at my behaviors.

00:29:14.680 Look at what's going on.

00:29:15.680 Yeah.

00:29:16.680 Instead of just being my behaviors.

00:29:17.680 Yeah.

00:29:18.680 Yeah.

00:29:19.680 I mean, you know, something that's really wonderful is, it's not like you have that

00:29:25.680 pause that seems to expand with meditation.

00:29:27.680 So you have a little more time to decide what you're going to do.

00:29:30.680 You, it doesn't mean you're going to choose the well behaved thing to do.

00:29:36.680 It just means if you do choose to be an asshole, you know, you did on purpose.

00:29:42.680 You thought about it and you're like, I'm going to be a fucking asshole here.

00:29:45.680 I'm deciding instead of spontaneously just going asshole mode.

00:29:49.680 Right.

00:29:50.680 That's it.

00:29:51.680 That's what meditation provides.

00:29:52.680 It provides you the ability or the notice ability to go from spontaneously being an asshole

00:30:00.680 to choosing to say, hey, I'm going to be an asshole.

00:30:03.680 Yeah.

00:30:04.680 What a gift.

00:30:07.680 What a gift.

00:30:08.680 No.

00:30:09.680 You know, one thing I don't know, cause I haven't read this.

00:30:11.680 Someone who was friends with him told me that once he heard Ram Dass, the spiritual teachers

00:30:15.680 say, if an, if an asshole gets enlightened, then they're going to be an enlightened asshole.

00:30:23.680 This whole notion that you start meditating or take up the spiritual path.

00:30:27.680 And like now, like, I don't know, you're making like Instagram videos in front of like

00:30:33.680 crystal pools of water and in beautiful forests with your beads and you're like emanating light.

00:30:40.680 That is not the case.

00:30:42.680 It just, you just, like you're saying, you become the rollercoaster conductor.

00:30:46.680 At least, you know that you are simultaneously controlling the ride and getting on the ride.

00:30:53.680 Yes.

00:30:54.680 And there's some freedom in that, I think.

00:30:56.680 Well, it's interesting because then you start to see, oh, well, what else could be going

00:31:01.680 on in the depths of me when I'm not just sitting here in the same, like at the beach of myself.

00:31:08.680 I'm not just, you know, it's like, I feel like that's one of the first steps in this sort

00:31:13.680 of getting into like realizing there's more to you than just being this reactive substance

00:31:22.680 described as like a human.

00:31:24.680 Reactive substance.

00:31:26.680 Is that what the aliens call us?

00:31:28.680 That's probably what they thought it was at first.

00:31:30.680 They're just like, there's these react, there's a bunch of reactive substance on that planet.

00:31:34.680 Yeah.

00:31:35.680 We don't know what it is.

00:31:36.680 Sometimes it like gets into vehicles.

00:31:39.680 We think it's vehicles.

00:31:40.680 Yeah.

00:31:41.680 Yeah.

00:31:42.680 Once, sometimes a doctor tells one of them, one of them tells them when they have black

00:31:44.680 guys in their head as a child.

00:31:46.680 Yeah.

00:31:47.680 I know.

00:31:48.680 Well, you know, I did like, I did read that maybe that is the reason, even though these

00:31:53.680 days, I guess you can't say we're not getting visited, but one of the theories on why aliens

00:31:57.680 aren't coming here is because they don't consider us intelligent life.

00:32:01.680 Yeah.

00:32:02.680 So they just see us as some, just like what you're saying, some kind of like vaguely

00:32:05.680 sentient reactive meat.

00:32:07.680 Yeah.

00:32:08.680 And not worth visiting.

00:32:09.680 I think that makes sense.

00:32:10.680 I mean, I've long thought the reason why I think aliens used to come a lot probably back

00:32:14.680 in the day, right?

00:32:15.680 Yeah.

00:32:16.680 They came a lot.

00:32:17.680 That's why you saw a lot of Egyptians drawing them.

00:32:19.680 Yeah.

00:32:20.680 You know, and, um, and even the fact that they would stay stable long enough for an Egyptian

00:32:25.680 to draw them.

00:32:26.680 Cause in Egypt, you know, like they had to get a candle.

00:32:29.680 They had to light it.

00:32:30.680 They had to get the guy who could draw.

00:32:32.680 Like it was a little bit more of than just.

00:32:34.680 Chisel it.

00:32:35.680 Yeah.

00:32:36.680 Sometimes chiseling.

00:32:37.680 Yeah.

00:32:38.680 It was more than just us grabbing a phone.

00:32:39.680 Right?

00:32:40.680 Yeah.

00:32:41.680 But I think, yeah, they used to come by a lot and then they realized it's kind of boring.

00:32:44.680 We've become like one of the boring theme parks in the galaxy.

00:32:47.680 So if your parents, if your alien parents take you to the earth for your graduation,

00:32:53.680 I bet the other aliens are like, what a fucking loser to your parents.

00:32:56.680 Nobody's been there in forever, dude.

00:32:59.680 How poor are you guys?

00:33:01.680 It's like a six flags knockoff.

00:33:03.680 Yes.

00:33:04.680 Like one of those shitty, like shitty theme parks where there's, they don't even try

00:33:09.680 to clean up the puke.

00:33:10.680 Yeah.

00:33:11.680 There's just pukes splattered everywhere.

00:33:13.680 You'll probably get like pickpocketed.

00:33:15.680 You look at the kids controlling the rollercoaster and they're like clearly on PCP.

00:33:20.680 They're not paying attention.

00:33:22.680 You're people die, you know, people die there, but yeah.

00:33:26.680 Yeah.

00:33:27.680 One of the guys running the rides is in a coma, but they have to hire like the government to

00:33:31.680 you have to hire more comatose people.

00:33:33.680 Yeah.

00:33:34.680 And so they're just like, yeah, the guy's like, just like has his morphine button and

00:33:38.680 his fucking start the ride button confused.

00:33:41.680 Crazy.

00:33:42.680 I mean, any theme park.

00:33:43.680 I mean, that is really like, to me, the more terrifying than the rollercoaster itself

00:33:48.680 is when you look at the person controlling the rollercoaster.

00:33:51.680 Yeah.

00:33:52.680 And then imagine like, what if that person was controlling subways in New York?

00:33:55.680 Oh.

00:33:56.680 Would you feel okay about that?

00:33:57.680 But the rollercoaster is probably more dangerous than the subway.

00:34:00.680 Yeah.

00:34:01.680 Totally.

00:34:02.680 It's like, it shouldn't even work.

00:34:03.680 Yeah.

00:34:04.680 It's like using weird physics.

00:34:06.680 They hired a rollercoaster architect.

00:34:08.680 They could afford them for a couple of weeks through something together.

00:34:12.680 And then they just let like a 17 year old on like synthetic marijuana for sure.

00:34:19.680 Oh yeah.

00:34:20.680 Control that fucking thing.

00:34:22.680 Yeah.

00:34:23.680 Yeah.

00:34:24.680 Yeah.

00:34:25.680 And then he spends, he, that kid, he lobbies to get a DJ there at the same time, like for

00:34:31.680 the ride.

00:34:32.680 Right.

00:34:33.680 Like they're like, we could spend more money on safety.

00:34:34.680 And he's like, no way, dude.

00:34:36.680 No.

00:34:37.680 We need my boy Ricky right here to spin his tables on the side.

00:34:40.680 That's right.

00:34:41.680 And you know, they know they have insurance.

00:34:43.680 So they're just like, look, I'm paying a shit ton of money for rollercoaster insurance.

00:34:47.680 If someone gets hurt, they get fucking hurt.

00:34:50.680 We're getting a DJ.

00:34:51.680 We're covered legally.

00:34:54.680 This is the rhythm of the night.

00:34:58.680 I think he's having a seizure.

00:35:00.680 I think the rollercoaster operator just had a micro seizure.

00:35:03.680 Yeah.

00:35:04.680 Yeah.

00:35:05.680 Oh, he's having a seizure, dude.

00:35:06.680 Beat up the beat, bro.

00:35:07.680 We got to drop the beat.

00:35:08.680 That'll help him.

00:35:09.680 Dude.

00:35:10.680 I was in the back of a shit rollercoaster at a shit theme park, just like you're describing.

00:35:14.680 Yeah.

00:35:15.680 And whoever was that, like whoever's in charge of checking the, the straps comes back to

00:35:22.680 me.

00:35:23.680 I was just a kid, man.

00:35:24.680 And she looks at me and she's like, you're not even supposed to be sitting in the back.

00:35:28.680 The person next to you, Sue's heavy.

00:35:29.680 There's a chance you could break a rib.

00:35:31.680 There wasn't, I'm going to take you out and put you in a different seat.

00:35:36.680 She just said that as she's tightening the thing that's holding me in the car.

00:35:41.680 And then it just goes.

00:35:43.680 And she was right.

00:35:44.680 Like the person next to me was smashing.

00:35:47.680 It hurt.

00:35:48.680 Like it didn't break my ribs.

00:35:49.680 It should hurt, man.

00:35:50.680 Yeah.

00:35:51.680 It hurt.

00:35:52.680 It should hurt.

00:35:53.680 So what kind of meditation do you do, Theo?

00:35:56.680 What I do is I wake up in the morning.

00:35:59.680 I say a prayer.

00:36:01.680 I do a reading and then I do 10 minutes of meditation.

00:36:04.680 I just close my eyes.

00:36:06.680 I just sit there and if any thoughts come up, I try to just let them pass and not attach

00:36:13.680 to them.

00:36:14.680 Cool.

00:36:15.680 I set my phone timer for 10 minutes and that's it.

00:36:17.680 And then I do like a written meditation after that, where I'll just write for 10 minutes

00:36:21.680 straight.

00:36:22.680 Just whatever comes into my stream of consciousness.

00:36:24.680 Yeah.

00:36:25.680 That's great, man.

00:36:26.680 You do that every day.

00:36:27.680 I've done that every day, man.

00:36:28.680 I would say, or at least six days a week.

00:36:29.680 I would say for probably the past few months, four months, maybe.

00:36:32.680 Wow.

00:36:33.680 That's incredible.

00:36:34.680 It makes me feel a little bit more like, like I'm okay to think about stuff and not

00:36:39.680 just be as reactive sometimes.

00:36:41.680 Yeah, man.

00:36:42.680 I mean, that's amazing.

00:36:43.680 That's a long, four months of like that kind of practice is a big deal.

00:36:47.680 Yeah.

00:36:48.680 It feels pretty good, man.

00:36:49.680 Um, but yeah, I think, uh, I went to, well, let me think about that a little bit more,

00:36:57.680 but yeah, I think earth, I do believe in just going back to the aliens thing that I think

00:37:00.680 that earth is, it's that old theme park where it's like, dude, we're not driving all the

00:37:07.680 way out there.

00:37:08.680 There's nothing out there.

00:37:09.680 All the information is these people are just trying to butt fuck and just looking at, you

00:37:15.680 know, and growing yard drugs.

00:37:17.680 Like we're not going over there again.

00:37:19.680 I'm picturing the alien display, like the star Trek display as that pops up is what the

00:37:27.680 analysis of planet earth is.

00:37:29.680 That's amazing.

00:37:30.680 And they're just like, yeah, that's not worth our time.

00:37:33.680 Yeah.

00:37:34.680 We're not going to burn Vespine crystals to fucking go to that piece of shit.

00:37:37.680 Now it will at some point though, become hip with alien youth to come back here and do

00:37:43.680 something because that's how everything is.

00:37:45.680 Right.

00:37:46.680 Like at some point it becomes cool to go to the, uh, to go into graveyards.

00:37:50.680 Like for, you know, there's always like, there's 20 years where nobody gives a shit

00:37:53.680 about graveyards.

00:37:54.680 Nobody mentions them, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

00:37:56.680 Even on Halloween, nobody's popping in, but then something flares up where graveyards are

00:38:01.680 fucking popular again.

00:38:02.680 Yep.

00:38:03.680 You know, man, I, my friend ran a graveyard and it was a big problem.

00:38:07.680 Goths fucking on the graves.

00:38:09.680 Really?

00:38:10.680 Yeah.

00:38:11.680 They had a problem with goths fucking on the graves and peacocks.

00:38:13.680 Wow.

00:38:14.680 The, I guess the peacocks, I can't remember the problem with the peacocks.

00:38:17.680 Either they were like aggressive or they were too loud or something.

00:38:21.680 But the main problem was at night, goths would like squirming under the gate and just fuck

00:38:28.680 on graves.

00:38:29.680 Yeah.

00:38:30.680 For some reason.

00:38:31.680 It's like a, that's a big, like if you're running a graveyard, which by the way is apparently

00:38:35.680 like a very profitable business, then you have to have a plan for what to do when people

00:38:41.680 come and hump on the tombs because there's some, I don't know what it is.

00:38:46.680 There's some kind of, you know, I went jogging in that graveyard once and I was so thirsty,

00:38:52.680 Theo and I, uh, I turn on a spigot and just drink some water.

00:38:59.680 And then I realized I'm drinking fucking graveyard.

00:39:02.680 This, this is graveyard water.

00:39:04.680 This, there's no way.

00:39:05.680 That's grave gravy, baby.

00:39:06.680 You're sipping.

00:39:07.680 I'm drinking grave gravy.

00:39:08.680 Yeah.

00:39:09.680 It didn't taste good either, man.

00:39:10.680 It had a weird tang to it.

00:39:11.680 Yeah.

00:39:12.680 That's fucking marrow, son.

00:39:13.680 Oh God.

00:39:14.680 Oh God.

00:39:15.680 Dude, you could sell that though.

00:39:16.680 There's no way you couldn't sell pure death filtered water.

00:39:21.680 Grave water.

00:39:22.680 Grave water.

00:39:23.680 Grave water.

00:39:24.680 They already have, what is it like?

00:39:25.680 What's the new canned water every liquid death.

00:39:28.680 It's like, that's their premium.

00:39:30.680 Yes.

00:39:31.680 Bottled at a cemetery in New Orleans.

00:39:34.680 It doesn't have great sanitation.

00:39:37.680 Yeah.

00:39:38.680 Yeah.

00:39:39.680 Yeah.

00:39:40.680 Yeah.

00:39:41.680 Yeah.

00:39:42.680 Yeah.

00:39:43.680 Yeah.

00:39:44.680 Yeah.

00:39:45.680 Yeah.

00:39:46.680 Yeah.

00:39:47.680 Yeah.

00:39:48.680 Yeah.

00:39:49.680 Yeah.

00:39:50.680 Yeah.

00:39:51.680 And you smell, you can smell the death and some of the graves, like the crypt.

00:39:57.680 Yeah.

00:39:58.680 They're hatched open a little bit or somebody's.

00:40:00.680 Yeah.

00:40:01.680 Yeah.

00:40:02.680 People will get in there.

00:40:03.680 People will steal a bone.

00:40:04.680 I remember.

00:40:05.680 Oh, they love it.

00:40:06.680 Well, dude, I grew up in a neighborhood between a lot of people would drive from like

00:40:10.680 the main thoroughfare in town and then they would go through our neighborhood, which

00:40:13.680 was pretty dumpy and go on to like kind of wealthier areas.

00:40:17.680 And we were right outside of the city limits or the town limits.

00:40:21.680 I think we lived in a town, but a lot of people would just throw shit out.

00:40:28.680 And once they got outside of the city limits, cause there wasn't like a, um, you couldn't

00:40:32.680 get a fine for it or whatever.

00:40:34.680 Yeah.

00:40:35.680 So a lot of, uh, there was a veterinarian that would throw out all the animal shit in

00:40:40.680 our yard, like into our ditch by us.

00:40:43.680 Right.

00:40:44.680 Yeah.

00:40:45.680 So they'd have dead animal carcasses out there all the time.

00:40:48.680 So we were always beating each other with fucking, you know, fucking, uh, beach, like

00:40:56.680 Bichon femurs and shit, or just whipping each other.

00:40:59.680 If you got a fucking big Labrador, German shepherd, fucking tibia that came through,

00:41:03.680 boy, we would beat the fuck out of each other with that.

00:41:06.680 Cause you, cause you, for sure they're telling the people who are euthanizing their animals,

00:41:09.680 they're saying to them, don't worry, we're going to cremate these bodies and we're going

00:41:15.680 to give you the ashes.

00:41:16.680 Yeah.

00:41:17.680 So what they have is probably just a pile of ash.

00:41:19.680 Cause it's probably expensive to run a, uh, cremation service for animals.

00:41:24.680 Oh yeah.

00:41:25.680 So you're, they're sending fake ash to the like grieving dog owners.

00:41:30.680 Or barbecue ash, something probably out of a pit.

00:41:33.680 Yeah.

00:41:34.680 Dog owners have no idea that the fucking Vons are beating each other with their beloved

00:41:40.680 dog's spine.

00:41:41.680 Whoop that trick.

00:41:43.680 Remember that song?

00:41:44.680 Whoop that trick.

00:41:45.680 So sad.

00:41:46.680 But it was crazy.

00:41:47.680 We'd have all this.

00:41:48.680 So we'd, we'd also like, we'd do like paleontology where like make cool animals and bury them.

00:41:53.680 And like, there was some cool stuff like that.

00:41:55.680 But yeah, after a while, my mom would get so pissed because the yard would always smell

00:41:59.680 like dead animals, you know?

00:42:00.680 Jesus Christ, man.

00:42:01.680 So we had this abundance of like dead animal smell, which is a, it's a tough smell to enjoy

00:42:06.680 your childhood in, to want to play in, you know?

00:42:09.680 That's horrible, man.

00:42:10.680 It was bad.

00:42:11.680 And nobody cared at the city, man.

00:42:13.680 It's, that's what made me hate government right out the gate.

00:42:15.680 You know, it was like, if we'd had a little more money, they would have come and got the

00:42:19.680 animals out, you know?

00:42:20.680 It's the beginning of a horror movie for sure.

00:42:23.680 Like somebody like has their like demonic dog euthanized.

00:42:27.680 And it's like, you have to make sure you cremate this fucking thing.

00:42:31.680 Yeah.

00:42:32.680 It's like, I'll cremate it.

00:42:33.680 Sure.

00:42:34.680 There you go.

00:42:35.680 Of course.

00:42:36.680 I'll cremate it.

00:42:37.680 Yeah.

00:42:38.680 I'll cremate that bitch right now.

00:42:39.680 Yeah.

00:42:40.680 Don't worry.

00:42:41.680 Just throw it in the Vaughn's yard.

00:42:42.680 The boys like to make art with the bones at one little fella.

00:42:45.680 Yeah.

00:42:46.680 Yeah.

00:42:47.680 That's weird for no reason.

00:42:48.680 Like Jesus.

00:42:49.680 Yeah.

00:42:50.680 He's just playing with the bones, dude.

00:42:51.680 Yeah.

00:42:52.680 That's how you know for sure.

00:42:54.680 Like that's really crazy, man.

00:42:56.680 I can't.

00:42:57.680 I'm just trying to picture like my childhood being defined by the waft of death.

00:43:05.680 That's dark, man.

00:43:07.680 That's dark.

00:43:08.680 How long did that go on for?

00:43:10.680 Probably.

00:43:11.680 I would say three years probably.

00:43:13.680 Maybe in the summer, I think was the worst because of the smell and it would kind of

00:43:18.680 happen in shifts.

00:43:19.680 It wouldn't be like every day they would throw stuff out there.

00:43:21.680 You know, there'd be kind of a time of the month or whatever.

00:43:24.680 I don't want to make it like, you know, you know, whatever that's called periodical

00:43:30.680 or whatever, but it'd be like a time of the month where the guy would just come and

00:43:33.680 toss it all out there.

00:43:34.680 They'd run it through and toss it out at night.

00:43:36.680 I wonder why you picked your house.

00:43:38.680 Well, they just picked along our street.

00:43:40.680 Okay.

00:43:41.680 I gotcha.

00:43:42.680 Cause it was just right outside of city limits, you know, and I think they probably

00:43:45.680 lived in like some of the nicer areas.

00:43:47.680 So they, it was kind of this pass through McGee street over there in Covington, Louisiana

00:43:52.680 and people would just, they'd throw all kinds of stuff out over there.

00:43:55.680 But you did.

00:43:56.680 I remember this one girl had a little collection of like the little necklace or the dog little

00:44:01.680 things.

00:44:02.680 Like dog parts?

00:44:04.680 No, like little, uh, medallions, you know, some dogs wear like, uh, jewelry or something.

00:44:10.680 Yeah.

00:44:11.680 Like some dogs wear a little jewelry, I guess.

00:44:13.680 If they're like fucking, you know, from Florida or whatever.

00:44:17.680 I don't even know why they would do it, but they would.

00:44:20.680 Bedazzled.

00:44:21.680 Yeah.

00:44:22.680 Like, like Trixie or something.

00:44:23.680 Yeah.

00:44:24.680 Or fluffy or, but you know, buddy or whatever.

00:44:26.680 Yeah.

00:44:27.680 That's weird, man.

00:44:28.680 But she had a little collection of those, but it was weird shit like that in our area.

00:44:31.680 You know, they had a prosthetic limb place bus and we, people were always, we'd go in

00:44:35.680 their dumpsters sometimes and get a fucking extra limb out that bitch.

00:44:38.680 That's fine.

00:44:39.680 You know?

00:44:40.680 I get that.

00:44:41.680 Yeah.

00:44:42.680 But yeah, I get that.

00:44:43.680 I wouldn't, and I get like as a kid being excited in some weird way about having like

00:44:47.680 animal carcasses in a ditch.

00:44:48.680 Like that is interesting.

00:44:49.680 There's something cool about that.

00:44:50.680 Yeah.

00:44:51.680 It was interesting.

00:44:52.680 But it's going to get old.

00:44:53.680 That's all.

00:44:54.680 Yeah.

00:44:55.680 And the waft of it was bad.

00:44:56.680 That was the worst part.

00:44:57.680 And I think my mom hated that.

00:44:58.680 She hated, you know, leaving us there and being under the waft of those animals probably.

00:45:02.680 You know?

00:45:03.680 Cause it just haunts everything.

00:45:05.680 Well, it's the smell of death.

00:45:06.680 You're not supposed to like it.

00:45:07.680 Like it's supposed to tell you, don't go here.

00:45:09.680 This is a place that you might get killed.

00:45:11.680 That's why we don't like it.

00:45:12.680 Right?

00:45:13.680 This is a place where you might get eaten.

00:45:15.680 Yeah.

00:45:16.680 It smells like death here.

00:45:17.680 That's a bear ate somebody.

00:45:18.680 So don't go there.

00:45:19.680 Yeah.

00:45:20.680 So your, your DNA is telling you, you gotta get the fuck out of here, man.

00:45:23.680 Yeah.

00:45:24.680 Things are dying here.

00:45:25.680 And you just, you're forced to live there.

00:45:27.680 Yeah.

00:45:28.680 It was a, it was an interesting area, man.

00:45:31.680 But yeah, I think that's the thing.

00:45:32.680 There will be a, there will come a time and maybe it's coming now because alien seems

00:45:37.680 to be the, you know, gaining popularity.

00:45:39.680 I don't know if it's gaining popularity or if it's gaining, um, like more sightings or

00:45:46.680 whatever.

00:45:47.680 What is this?

00:45:48.680 Yeah.

00:45:49.680 This is actually pretty topical.

00:45:50.680 NASA just held like a four hour press conference about UFOs for the first time.

00:45:53.680 And they're basically admitting that it's a daily occurrence at this point.

00:45:56.680 UFOs.

00:45:57.680 They're actually, there's one thing that's happened since this weirdly boring NASA press

00:46:02.680 conference where they did say this.

00:46:03.680 Did you see the thing there?

00:46:05.680 There's now a whistleblower who has come forward and said that the United States has alien spaceship

00:46:13.680 wreckage and a congressman, I can't remember his name, gave a statement to the press saying

00:46:19.680 they were debriefed that in fact, we have alien wreckage that they're about to have hearings

00:46:27.680 on it.

00:46:28.680 So all the UFO people are, yeah, that's it.

00:46:30.680 The word definitely not alone thing.

00:46:32.680 People are really freaking out right now because, you know, this is what all the UFO people

00:46:36.680 have been saying is coming.

00:46:37.680 Mmm.

00:46:38.680 Disclosure.

00:46:39.680 So yeah, it's that guy.

00:46:40.680 A whistleblower says he handed over classified evidence proving that a secret government program

00:46:46.680 has been recovering spaceships and aliens for decades.

00:46:49.680 Uh, we're definitely not alone, David Grush says.

00:46:53.680 Uh, he's a former intelligence and military official.

00:46:57.680 Um, hmm.

00:47:02.680 Rep, uh, representative rep Republican Dean Phillips, uh, a representative Dean Phillips

00:47:10.680 from Minnesota, uh, Democrat added, my first reaction is probably like everybody watching

00:47:14.680 this, which is wow.

00:47:15.680 And secondly, I'll believe it when I see it.

00:47:18.680 I mean, that's fair.

00:47:20.680 You're not supposed to immediately believe UFO.

00:47:22.680 Oh no.

00:47:23.680 You, but, but what's interesting about this,

00:47:26.680 is that the denial that usually happens when things like someone says it's not really

00:47:32.680 happening in the same way.

00:47:33.680 And again, there was a Congress men who said we were debrief.

00:47:38.680 Like, did you ever see that?

00:47:40.680 So like they did hearings on UAPs a while ago.

00:47:43.680 And then after the hearing, they debriefed the feds, the Congress, the Congress, they debrief

00:47:51.680 them.

00:47:52.680 And they did an interview with one of these representatives in the hallway after he just

00:47:56.680 got told whatever the fuck they told him.

00:47:58.680 Mm-hmm.

00:47:59.680 And he's, he said, you can find it on YouTube.

00:48:01.680 He said something along the lines of lock your doors and windows tonight, folks.

00:48:06.680 That was his response.

00:48:07.680 Like whatever they told him, inspired him to say, we should like lock our doors.

00:48:13.680 Like it's going to keep an alien out.

00:48:15.680 Yeah.

00:48:16.680 Lock your doors after classified hearing on UFOs, a Louisiana Senator.

00:48:21.680 Now we're talking.

00:48:22.680 Yeah, man.

00:48:23.680 This is the same state that couldn't keep brothers outside of my head when I was a kid.

00:48:28.680 Dude, I'm telling you, you could like, this is nuts.

00:48:31.680 You can watch.

00:48:32.680 Are you allowed to show YouTube videos on here?

00:48:34.680 There's a clip of him doing it.

00:48:35.680 It's hilarious.

00:48:36.680 Is this him right here doing it?

00:48:37.680 Oh yeah.

00:48:38.680 That's it.

00:48:39.680 Flying objects that a couple of weeks ago, our skies were clear.

00:48:44.680 And then all of a sudden we have spy balloons and other identify unidentified flying objects

00:48:52.680 raining down on us like confetti.

00:48:56.680 That is not accurate.

00:49:00.680 These objects have been flying over us for years, many years.

00:49:09.680 We've known about those objects for many years.

00:49:15.680 We're not sure that we've known about all of them, but we've known about many of them.

00:49:21.680 Except for the Chinese spy balloon, we don't know what they are.

00:49:28.680 What's different about the last two weeks is that we've started shooting them down.

00:49:35.680 But we can't find the remnants except for the spy balloon.

00:49:42.680 And that's what I took away from the hearing today.

00:49:45.680 So I don't know if he paid attention during the whole hearing then.

00:49:48.680 No.

00:49:49.680 Confetti raining down like confetti.

00:49:51.680 It's a great descriptor.

00:49:52.680 Yeah.

00:49:53.680 That's what I don't.

00:49:54.680 Yeah.

00:49:55.680 I think.

00:49:58.680 But maybe I could see if there's an alien life form, you shoot it, you whatever.

00:50:04.680 Yeah.

00:50:05.680 And it dissipates.

00:50:06.680 Part of the way it's constructed is not to fall down to this.

00:50:10.680 That would be the first thing I would make of something that can't leave evidence.

00:50:13.680 Right.

00:50:14.680 Like exactly.

00:50:15.680 But like based on the stuff that's coming out right now.

00:50:19.680 And, you know, I love UFOs in the same way I love like stories about magic and miracles.

00:50:25.680 And I but I don't go full bore into it because ultimately like day to day reality isn't impacted.

00:50:34.680 Like, you know, mundane reality.

00:50:36.680 Right.

00:50:37.680 Taking care of the kids, paying the mortgage.

00:50:39.680 So you can get too distracted by that stuff and spin out.

00:50:44.680 But this moment in United States history is really fascinating in the sense that if we go back to Roswell, it was a weather balloon.

00:50:52.680 That's what they say.

00:50:53.680 Even though there's like many accounts of people saying that they saw aliens.

00:50:58.680 There was weird wreckage that seemed to be able to like you could bend it out of shape and it would go back into the form it was just like weird shit.

00:51:08.680 Right.

00:51:09.680 This gets denied by the government.

00:51:12.680 It was wreckage.

00:51:13.680 Weird stories about it.

00:51:14.680 Whatever.

00:51:15.680 We get Area 51.

00:51:16.680 You know what I mean?

00:51:17.680 Like it has its own airplane that flies people in.

00:51:20.680 You get a variety of like early phase government whistleblowers like Lazar, I think is his name.

00:51:27.680 Alan Lazar.

00:51:28.680 Bob Lazar.

00:51:29.680 Bob Lazar.

00:51:30.680 Yeah.

00:51:31.680 Bob Lazar.

00:51:32.680 You get like that.

00:51:34.680 And then these people get creamed in the media.

00:51:37.680 It's like that's a lunatic.

00:51:38.680 He never worked to Area 51.

00:51:40.680 This is bullshit.

00:51:41.680 He's like a con artist, whatever.

00:51:44.680 But now what's happening is instead of the denial that generally follows the whistleblowers admission of us like having some connection to aliens, it's not getting denied as much anymore.

00:51:55.680 And in fact, this whistleblower program they just created makes it so anyone who signed an NDA who's a private contractor and has been assigned to work on alien wreckage can now come forward and say, I worked on this shit.

00:52:09.680 And they get full immunity because that apparently was the back door.

00:52:13.680 Like you.

00:52:14.680 So there was these programs you could hire like, I don't know, name any like Raytheon.

00:52:19.680 I don't know for sure.

00:52:20.680 I don't know if they have wreckage.

00:52:21.680 I'm just throwing out like a defense contractor.

00:52:23.680 Raytheon.

00:52:24.680 Hire Duracell.

00:52:25.680 Hire Duracell.

00:52:26.680 Hire Duracell.

00:52:27.680 Say, look, we've got this ship.

00:52:29.680 It crashed.

00:52:30.680 Can you guys hang on to it?

00:52:31.680 Try to reverse engineer it.

00:52:33.680 And so now a private contractor has collected the wreckage, has the wreckage, meaning if you're asked under oath, do we have wreckage?

00:52:41.680 You could say no.

00:52:42.680 Because we don't.

00:52:44.680 A private contractor has the wreckage.

00:52:46.680 That was the loophole.

00:52:47.680 The loophole.

00:52:48.680 So now they set up this whistleblower program and all these people like that guy are starting to come out.

00:52:53.680 People who just like worked at Hyundai or I don't know, worked at like.

00:52:57.680 Dodge Neon.

00:52:58.680 Dodge Neon.

00:52:59.680 And they were like, hey, can you reverse engineer this thing that seems to be bending the time space continuum?

00:53:04.680 And they're like, no, but they couldn't say anything about it because they signed these hardcore NDAs.

00:53:10.680 So now they're all leaking the data.

00:53:12.680 So we're getting this weird, slow leak from all these people that's painting a picture.

00:53:17.680 And that's a real program that they allow.

00:53:19.680 Now, how did that program get created, the whistleblower program?

00:53:22.680 So what was happening was, well, the biggest problem is like people, apparently people get around these things.

00:53:30.680 And everyone listening, you can look all this up.

00:53:33.680 It's like all, it's, I've got the documents.

00:53:36.680 It's documented.

00:53:37.680 It's real.

00:53:38.680 Like, it's not like I'm just, it's real.

00:53:39.680 You can find all this stuff.

00:53:40.680 But the biggest problem is you're a Navy pilot.

00:53:44.680 Yeah.

00:53:45.680 And you see something that is not functioning according to your understanding.

00:53:50.680 Not kosher.

00:53:51.680 Seems odd.

00:53:52.680 It's going so fast.

00:53:53.680 It's stopping.

00:53:54.680 It's just stopping like it's a cursor on a computer screen.

00:53:58.680 Then it's going the opposite direction.

00:54:00.680 It's jamming your radar.

00:54:02.680 It doesn't seem to have windows.

00:54:04.680 Right?

00:54:05.680 So you see that and your choices are, do I say I saw what is obviously a UFO?

00:54:11.680 And if you do, you could really like fuck your career up.

00:54:14.680 Yeah.

00:54:15.680 So you couldn't talk about it.

00:54:16.680 The other problem is that apparently people who get too close to these things, they have, there's a physiological impact.

00:54:22.680 So let's imagine you got close to one of these things and now you're sick.

00:54:26.680 The VA won't pay for it.

00:54:28.680 Right.

00:54:29.680 Because there are no UFOs.

00:54:30.680 What are you talking about?

00:54:31.680 And so inadvertently you end up creating a situation where people won't say what they're seeing up in the sky.

00:54:38.680 Right.

00:54:39.680 Which isn't great if you're trying to defend the sky.

00:54:41.680 We want to know what's out there.

00:54:42.680 You want to know everything that's flying through U.S. airspace, right?

00:54:45.680 Mm-hmm.

00:54:46.680 So yeah, the whistleblower program was, I think, initially to kind of create a safe way.

00:54:52.680 Haven.

00:54:53.680 A safe haven.

00:54:54.680 Yeah.

00:54:55.680 Where people could say, okay, this is what I saw.

00:54:56.680 I don't want to endanger myself.

00:54:57.680 I don't want to endanger not being able to get medical care and things like that.

00:55:02.680 That's it.

00:55:03.680 Yeah.

00:55:04.680 Yeah.

00:55:05.680 And then, and now it's sort of like, now that it's working, it's, you know, all you need

00:55:11.680 is like one person to come forward.

00:55:14.680 It's like, me too for aliens.

00:55:17.680 Mm-hmm.

00:55:18.680 Just one person, then the next person, then the next person, then the next person.

00:55:21.680 You know?

00:55:22.680 That's what's happening.

00:55:23.680 Yeah.

00:55:24.680 All these people who've kept this shit, like, completely secret.

00:55:27.680 Oh, I'm sure bottled up.

00:55:28.680 Yeah.

00:55:29.680 Imagine the people that have molested people or something just because they saw an alien

00:55:33.680 and they didn't know how to process it.

00:55:34.680 Or went insane, or like, you know, like, so many things.

00:55:39.680 Yeah.

00:55:40.680 Beat their spouse.

00:55:41.680 Or just imagine a guy, he saw something in his whole life.

00:55:45.680 He's been hiding things from him.

00:55:47.680 Like, taking anything and hiding.

00:55:49.680 Yeah.

00:55:50.680 Like, just weird, there's weird ways that people react to things that seem beyond them.

00:55:54.680 Yeah.

00:55:55.680 You know?

00:55:56.680 It eats you alive.

00:55:57.680 It's sad to it that apparently these people have been threatened with death.

00:56:01.680 That whoever's running this shit is not fucking around.

00:56:05.680 They don't want the general populace, they don't want the world to know that this has happened.

00:56:11.680 Because apparently, and again, this is just conjecture here.

00:56:14.680 Obviously, from a military perspective, if you figure out how those things can fly, and you build a fleet of them, you, it's like the new atom bomb.

00:56:25.680 Like, you are, have complete superiority in the sky, and like, if we're, you're living in the United States right now, you want us to be the ones.

00:56:34.680 You want to be first.

00:56:35.680 You don't want some other country who, they apparently all have this shit to, like, win this race.

00:56:42.680 But what about Mexico, dog?

00:56:44.680 You know, they don't have the fucking strongest.

00:56:46.680 They're like, dog, these motherfuckers, dog.

00:56:48.680 That would be incredible if all of a sudden they have the most advanced air force.

00:56:54.680 Some guy just comes up with the fucking, and bro, it's the lowest riding UFO ever.

00:56:59.680 Like, the UFO is only like two inches off the ground.

00:57:03.680 Like, dog, this bitch is fucking, it goes, it goes too high, dog.

00:57:08.680 We don't, this bitch goes too fucking high, dog.

00:57:12.680 That would be so sick, bro.

00:57:14.680 Dude, it would be, you're right.

00:57:15.680 It would be interesting.

00:57:16.680 Like, whoever gets it is going to be fucking cool.

00:57:18.680 We should have a show where every country brings their, brings their latest, like, UFO aircraft that they made, bro.

00:57:25.680 Amazing.

00:57:26.680 That would be the best show.

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01:00:45.680 Dude, you know, it's an exciting time, man.

01:00:48.680 It's like, whatever it is, even if it's...

01:00:50.680 Because at this point...

01:00:51.680 It is exciting.

01:00:52.680 It's exciting.

01:00:53.680 Like, and what are you going to do about it?

01:00:54.680 Right.

01:00:55.680 What are you going to do about it?

01:00:56.680 All you're going to do is stay alive.

01:00:57.680 Yeah.

01:00:58.680 Hopefully.

01:00:59.680 And yeah, fine.

01:01:00.680 You can't let all this stuff affect you that much.

01:01:04.680 No.

01:01:05.680 Like, you have to have some tongue-in-cheek look at all of it.

01:01:07.680 Right.

01:01:08.680 Just enjoy the fact that you get to live in a time period in American history

01:01:13.680 where the federal government seems to no longer be denying the thing that people have been saying forever.

01:01:21.680 But here's my question then, would be, what's in it for the federal government that they would now not deny it?

01:01:28.680 Well, I think that's one of the most important questions regarding this situation is, why?

01:01:35.680 Why suddenly are they kind of slow leaking this information?

01:01:40.680 Like, I don't know the answer to that.

01:01:43.680 Like, I have no idea.

01:01:44.680 Well, some things could be, I mean, just off the top of my head is, if they want us to believe in some sort of universal protector then that will come along.

01:01:55.680 Right.

01:01:56.680 Like, some thing, some organization, some, like, insurance against aliens in a way.

01:02:03.680 Not an actual, like, you pay 40 bucks a month, but like.

01:02:06.680 Right.

01:02:07.680 Like, as in creating some new world or, you know, if there's that part of that regime that, like, you know, this, this one world order type of thing.

01:02:15.680 If they.

01:02:16.680 Yeah.

01:02:17.680 You know, I'm just trying to think of the upside.

01:02:18.680 What does somebody gain?

01:02:20.680 Um, do we need a new enemy?

01:02:22.680 Are they realizing that, like, religion isn't working enough on people anymore?

01:02:27.680 Or the fear of, there's not enough fear imposed on people at the, you know, I don't know.

01:02:33.680 Or it could just be that.

01:02:34.680 That's blue beam.

01:02:35.680 You're talking about blue beam.

01:02:37.680 That's the big conspiracy theory.

01:02:38.680 That's like, essentially, like, there's two possibilities.

01:02:41.680 The one you just said, which I guess if you're gonna do, like, Occam's Razor, that is the most likely one, right?

01:02:49.680 What is Occam's Razor?

01:02:50.680 The most, the simplest solution is generally the solution.

01:02:52.680 Got it.

01:02:53.680 So, uh, in this case, it's more likely this is a human operation than aliens, based on our understanding of physics and the distance of habitable galaxies where they have planets in the Goldilocks region, the amount of time it would take to get here,

01:03:10.680 based on what we understand about how fast you can go.

01:03:13.680 Mm-hmm.

01:03:14.680 Probably, if, if you're gonna, if you're gonna bet, bet it's not an alien, right?

01:03:18.680 In Vegas, if you're betting, you're probably, you should always bet that's not an alien.

01:03:23.680 That's a human thing.

01:03:24.680 Right.

01:03:25.680 You're gonna win most of the time.

01:03:26.680 Right.

01:03:27.680 So, uh, that, that is one of the possibilities.

01:03:30.680 It's very sinister.

01:03:32.680 The idea being there's some social control benefit related to tricking the population of the planet into thinking there's aliens.

01:03:42.680 That's probably not the Occam's razor of it then.

01:03:44.680 So, I mean, the other side of it is, well, we live on a planet that's been being visited by a variety of alien species that more than likely genetically engineered us a long time ago and, like, shifted us from proto-hominids into what we are now.

01:04:02.680 Like, probably, for a reason that we're not gonna like.

01:04:05.680 Like, they, like, were Roombas or something.

01:04:08.680 I mean, that's one of the theories is, they just wanted gold.

01:04:11.680 So they genetically engineered us to like gold.

01:04:14.680 So we naturally mine fucking gold for them because we like shiny shit.

01:04:19.680 We like gold.

01:04:20.680 Yeah.

01:04:21.680 And they use it as some kind of fuel.

01:04:22.680 Oh, yeah.

01:04:23.680 Have you seen Basketball Wives, dude?

01:04:24.680 No!

01:04:25.680 That the whole show's about that.

01:04:26.680 Oh, gold!

01:04:27.680 Right!

01:04:28.680 They love gold!

01:04:29.680 It's like, what are we even doing here?

01:04:31.680 Right.

01:04:32.680 It doesn't make sense.

01:04:33.680 Like, why do you like this shiny, stupid, heavy, fucking metal?

01:04:37.680 Why are you into that so much?

01:04:38.680 There's so many other cooler metals out there.

01:04:41.680 Yeah.

01:04:42.680 But gold obsession is a real thing.

01:04:43.680 So the theory is these Anunnaki programmed us to like gold because they need it for their spaceships.

01:04:48.680 They didn't give a shit about us.

01:04:50.680 They're just like...

01:04:51.680 We'll just farm some gold here.

01:04:53.680 That's it.

01:04:54.680 Brilliant from that perspective.

01:04:55.680 So that to me is a far more complex and weird explanation than just the military industrial

01:05:03.680 complex has like networked with other governments.

01:05:07.680 And they're like, I think they're at the point they're so fucking dumb.

01:05:11.680 They're gonna believe there's aliens.

01:05:13.680 Yeah.

01:05:14.680 And like we can manipulate them.

01:05:15.680 That's what it seems like.

01:05:16.680 That's what it would seem like to me.

01:05:18.680 Cause I don't know.

01:05:21.680 Unless it there, they're like, we're getting to the point where so many people are being

01:05:26.680 like, there's so much evidence.

01:05:28.680 The more you make me think this is not real, the more I'm just thinking you are not honest.

01:05:35.680 Right.

01:05:36.680 At a certain point, the, the, the residual effect of the, of the magic trick isn't a, it doesn't

01:05:45.680 cause the beautiful deception anymore.

01:05:47.680 It causes you to hate the magician.

01:05:50.680 Exactly.

01:05:51.680 Exactly.

01:05:52.680 So that's the thing.

01:05:53.680 That's weird, bro.

01:05:54.680 It's like, you know, why, why?

01:05:58.680 And look, I would love to see it.

01:05:59.680 Would I like to meet an alien?

01:06:01.680 I don't know, dude.

01:06:04.680 You would give me a break.

01:06:07.680 You know, just from our few podcasts together and conversations we had, I don't, I wouldn't

01:06:12.680 you like it?

01:06:13.680 Of course you'd like to meet an alien.

01:06:14.680 It'd be the coolest thing ever.

01:06:16.680 Don't you want to know what they smell like?

01:06:18.680 No one ever talks about that.

01:06:19.680 What do they smell like?

01:06:21.680 What is the, what does a gray alien's head smell like?

01:06:24.680 Mmm.

01:06:25.680 Yeah.

01:06:26.680 Is it bitter?

01:06:27.680 Is it a stinky smell?

01:06:29.680 Is it fishy?

01:06:30.680 Oh, if they're fishy, dude, I'm not.

01:06:33.680 I'm out.

01:06:34.680 That would suck.

01:06:35.680 That would suck.

01:06:36.680 Bro, how much would the smell of aliens depend on how much we give a fuck about it anymore?

01:06:40.680 A lot!

01:06:41.680 Huge, bro.

01:06:42.680 If they smell anything like a Korean pet store, dude, I'm fucking gone.

01:06:48.680 Dude, Close Encounters of the Third Kind.

01:06:50.680 Spoiler, if you haven't seen it, I'm going to spoil it.

01:06:53.680 A Korean, the guy who's been building the Mud Mountains, happily walks into the spaceship,

01:06:58.680 the beautiful musical spaceship.

01:07:00.680 Imagine the fucking thing closes and you catch that first waft of deep, like, fish laying

01:07:08.680 out in the beach smell as you're, like, light speed heading away from the planet.

01:07:13.680 And that's going to be what you smell forever.

01:07:16.680 As you look out at the vastness of space, black holes, all the beauty of space, all you

01:07:22.680 can think about is there's just this stink, rotting eggs and fucking fish.

01:07:28.680 Bro, we would hate aliens, immediately we would hate them, like, these stinky motherfuckers.

01:07:38.680 They smell so bad and they refuse to, like, take showers and pass.

01:07:42.680 They're like, no, we don't do that.

01:07:44.680 Yeah.

01:07:45.680 No, we'll evaporate you before we'll take a fucking shower.

01:07:48.680 Yeah, dude.

01:07:49.680 No.

01:07:50.680 We're the advanced intelligence.

01:07:51.680 You're supposed to stink.

01:07:52.680 They're like, no, this is one of the many things we figured out.

01:07:55.680 Yeah.

01:07:56.680 You don't stink.

01:07:57.680 You haven't evolved.

01:07:58.680 Like, we go, we used to not stink.

01:08:00.680 And then we learned, we learned, this is our purpose here, to emit foul odors.

01:08:06.680 Dude, I wonder also, the odors that we closet so much now, right?

01:08:13.680 Yeah.

01:08:14.680 Like, from shaving, washing and all the things that we do and use in ointments.

01:08:19.680 How much of that we're, like, taking out of, like, how much other stuff would I gather about

01:08:25.680 you if you came in with two, say, 80 days of hot smell on you?

01:08:32.680 80 days of fresh dunking on you.

01:08:34.680 Post burning man dunking.

01:08:35.680 Yeah.

01:08:36.680 You come fucking rolling in.

01:08:38.680 You've been hugging your kid.

01:08:40.680 You've been with your wife.

01:08:41.680 You worked a couple of long weeks, right?

01:08:43.680 Yeah.

01:08:44.680 You've fucking been on seven flights.

01:08:45.680 Yeah.

01:08:46.680 But you get the full, like, I wonder how much are we killing off, like, some of that, to

01:08:51.680 go back to that, like, scan of people.

01:08:53.680 Yeah.

01:08:54.680 Like, how much of that was in our brains that we knew how to scan, that we were able, that

01:08:58.680 we were able to gather more?

01:09:01.680 Right.

01:09:02.680 Like, what if we were the aliens initially?

01:09:04.680 I gotcha.

01:09:05.680 And we've dumbed ourselves.

01:09:06.680 We've killed off all of those things.

01:09:09.680 I gotcha.

01:09:10.680 Yeah, man, I gotcha.

01:09:11.680 It's like, I heard of this study where they took, and I don't know how they did this,

01:09:18.680 and I'm not a scientist, and honestly, when I hear about studies, maybe one out of a hundred,

01:09:23.680 I try to actually read the study.

01:09:25.680 And then when I do try, I realize how dumb I am.

01:09:27.680 I'm like, I don't understand statistics.

01:09:29.680 But so, all that being said, apparently in a study, they found, like, good genetic matches

01:09:35.680 for women, and they, like, based on their genetics and this person's genetics, somehow

01:09:42.680 this is like, they would theoretically make a great baby.

01:09:45.680 So, they take these dudes' shirts, put them in Ziploc bags, and they let the women just

01:09:54.680 smell the shirts.

01:09:55.680 So, the women are, like, smelling, like, you know, 10 shirts, and they're like, pick

01:09:59.680 the one that you would want to go on a date with, right?

01:10:02.680 And so, apparently, all of them picked the right genetic match based on the stink of the

01:10:09.680 shirt.

01:10:10.680 But the ones who didn't, they want birth control.

01:10:13.680 So, there was some weird connection to, like, something about that was cutting off what

01:10:18.680 you're talking about, the ability to discern from someone's stink.

01:10:22.680 It's some subliminal level what's going on with it.

01:10:25.680 And, yeah, man, it's a good question.

01:10:27.680 Like, how much of the problems we're having right now are just because we don't stink enough.

01:10:33.680 Like, we're supposed to smell.

01:10:35.680 You're supposed to smell horrible all day long.

01:10:37.680 Yeah.

01:10:38.680 Honest stink.

01:10:39.680 Good stink.

01:10:40.680 I would hate that world, though, man.

01:10:42.680 I would.

01:10:43.680 I like not stinking.

01:10:45.680 Yeah, I've grown accustomed to it.

01:10:48.680 Now, if you gateway stank me, if you did some gateway stanking, where, like, you, somebody

01:10:54.680 stopped by that stank, or you put me in an Uber for four minutes, and like, oh, that guy

01:10:58.680 stinks.

01:10:59.680 Yeah.

01:11:00.680 The next day, you do me a six-minute Uber, and then two days later, I have to, you know,

01:11:04.680 I have to stay, sleep overnight at a buddy's apartment who lives right next door to, like,

01:11:09.680 you know, Canterbury Row or whatever.

01:11:12.680 Yeah.

01:11:13.680 What was that place that that guy always talked about?

01:11:15.680 Cannery Row.

01:11:16.680 Cannery Row.

01:11:17.680 Right.

01:11:18.680 I mean, the stink on me were eventually.

01:11:19.680 I fucking wanted something that stank.

01:11:23.680 Yeah.

01:11:24.680 You know what I'm saying?

01:11:25.680 I wanted to meet a bitch by the sand in, in fucking Oahu, you know, or in Kiyohe or somewhere.

01:11:31.680 It's nice, isn't it?

01:11:33.680 It's nice.

01:11:34.680 The non-sterilized human.

01:11:36.680 It's not like, it's a terrible smell.

01:11:38.680 And you know, how much of what we consider to be, like, BO, is actually just all the weird

01:11:45.680 shit they put in our food.

01:11:47.680 How much of it is just our body's desperate attempts to vent like Cheetos where your body's like, I got to get this shit out.

01:11:56.180 It's like, you know, they're dumping Fukushima right now.

01:11:58.340 They don't know what to do with the Fukushima radioactive water and they're dumping it in the ocean.

01:12:02.600 It's like that.

01:12:03.380 Our bodies are just trying to get the poisons out of us.

01:12:06.820 Like, you know, like think of like when you drink a lot that next day, you smell like booze.

01:12:13.300 It's so gross.

01:12:14.320 Oh, it's crazy.

01:12:14.980 We've had on the, when we're touring, we've had tour manager, tour people come on the tour who drink a lot.

01:12:22.980 And in the morning, you'll walk through like the little, like the part where the bunks are and the people are sleeping in there.

01:12:29.300 Yeah.

01:12:29.520 And you'll be like, oh my God.

01:12:31.120 And you can, since I don't drink, I can smell almost what they've had sometimes.

01:12:34.920 It's crazy.

01:12:36.140 Like they've had beer, they've had vodka.

01:12:38.580 And, or when you're pissed, smells like coffee.

01:12:41.580 I don't know if that's, you know, that's, or I don't know if you've ever eaten so much weed that your BO starts smelling like weed.

01:12:49.880 It happens.

01:12:51.040 It's just, you know, it happens.

01:12:52.960 And I've heard, now this is probably bullshit that.

01:12:55.900 Probably isn't.

01:12:56.640 Like saints, like gurus, people who've meditated their whole lives, who've gained enlightenment.

01:13:01.120 They smell different.

01:13:02.720 Like they smell sweet and perfumey.

01:13:05.280 Like the original smell of humans was, or I know.

01:13:08.740 Look at Filipinos.

01:13:09.800 What do you mean?

01:13:11.380 They, I mean, Filipinos, I could have named seven Filipinos that don't smell good.

01:13:16.140 Really?

01:13:16.760 Or wait, you're using them as an example of, of like a bad smell?

01:13:20.680 No, I think they're enlightened people.

01:13:22.700 Oh, they smell good.

01:13:23.940 Oh, I gotcha.

01:13:25.380 Man, I mean, it's probably a mark against me that I'm not familiar with the smell of Filipinos.

01:13:29.900 That's sad.

01:13:31.180 I wonder if one ethnicity doesn't filter as well as the other.

01:13:34.880 I'm sure.

01:13:35.800 We all have so many differences.

01:13:38.500 Whitney Cummins is having a baby.

01:13:40.460 What?

01:13:41.540 That's amazing.

01:13:42.580 I didn't know that.

01:13:43.300 That's so cool.

01:13:44.660 Wow.

01:13:45.180 When did, when did that?

01:13:46.820 She, I smelled it on her.

01:13:48.860 You smelled the baby?

01:13:50.480 Yeah, that would have been good.

01:13:54.420 What's that, huh?

01:13:55.660 You're growing life, Whitney.

01:13:59.520 See, I bet in the old days that was possible.

01:14:01.640 There's no way you couldn't roll up on somebody and smell if they were in a relationship, if

01:14:07.740 they had, if they were sad.

01:14:09.560 Yeah.

01:14:10.000 If they were, if they had probably defecated recently.

01:14:15.040 If they had had a birthday.

01:14:17.900 Right.

01:14:19.460 You just named everything that happened to me today.

01:14:22.780 The, the, the, um.

01:14:25.820 But there's, think about all the things in the smell that, cause it's like, we don't, there's

01:14:30.400 a lot of stuff.

01:14:31.440 Dude, sight gives you so many clues, bro.

01:14:34.060 You ever been on a little bit of mushrooms or something?

01:14:36.740 Oh, yeah.

01:14:37.180 Or done some ayahuasca and you can tell somebody's entire life story by looking right in their

01:14:43.320 eyes and you're right.

01:14:45.260 Dude, this is why I don't do acid in public anymore.

01:14:48.380 Cause like, you might be having a great time, but then all of a sudden, for whatever reason,

01:14:53.460 you literally experience a person's consciousness.

01:14:57.400 Like it transfers to you.

01:14:59.660 You see the pain, you see the sadness, the anger, the bitterness, a heartbreak.

01:15:04.660 And you just wanted to have fun.

01:15:06.680 You wanted to go out to a bar and drink, but suddenly you're being inundated by a person.

01:15:10.600 Yeah, and you're like, what happened to you?

01:15:12.000 Yeah, man.

01:15:13.140 That's a lot.

01:15:13.320 And they're like, Randy's dead.

01:15:15.020 And you're like, God.

01:15:16.800 Is that, I think this is why like clairvoyance, you hear clairvoyance complain and stuff or

01:15:20.880 like psychics or whatever.

01:15:22.060 They don't like it.

01:15:23.080 They don't want to be sensitive like that because that's their daily experience is just getting

01:15:27.060 blasted by people's karma.

01:15:31.420 And it hurts and you don't know what to do.

01:15:34.040 Yeah.

01:15:34.660 I could imagine that.

01:15:35.760 I think there's also probably a lot of lazy psychics out there.

01:15:39.440 Yeah, for sure.

01:15:41.060 And they're like, ugh, yeah.

01:15:44.280 Here comes a little bit more information about, you know, Brenda, you know.

01:15:49.880 They don't give it all.

01:15:51.600 They know it'll open a can of worms.

01:15:53.920 I'm going to fucking ignore that.

01:15:55.180 Their grandmother is like talking to the psychic.

01:15:58.060 She killed me.

01:15:58.800 She fucking burned my body in hydrochloric acid, poured me in Theo Vaughn's yard.

01:16:07.620 Please call the police.

01:16:09.400 And the psychic's like, fuck that.

01:16:10.840 The psychic's like, grandma says hello.

01:16:12.400 Yeah, she loves you.

01:16:13.640 Yeah, she loves you.

01:16:14.780 She loves you.

01:16:15.860 She's happy you're doing well.

01:16:17.800 Yeah.

01:16:18.140 And she just wanted me to say yes.

01:16:19.740 She thinks you have a beautiful yard or something.

01:16:22.260 She like makes it, yeah.

01:16:23.700 That sucks, man.

01:16:24.660 And I don't like, I don't like getting around psychics because, and also masseuses I get

01:16:29.460 creeped out by because I feel like sometimes they, you know, masseuses are often weirdly

01:16:33.560 psychic because they're touching bodies all day.

01:16:36.300 And I get creeped out like, are you detecting something?

01:16:39.280 Right.

01:16:39.460 Are you sensing some psychic blockage that I need to be working on that you're afraid to

01:16:44.980 tell me?

01:16:45.940 It makes sense that they can do it.

01:16:47.500 Some of them can.

01:16:48.200 You know, they have all those Reiki healers and those people that are really, what is Reiki?

01:16:52.460 Let's bring it up, Zachary, please.

01:16:54.660 Have you heard of this stuff?

01:16:56.680 Yeah.

01:16:58.580 It's therapy.

01:16:59.920 Reiki therapy is a way of guiding energy throughout.

01:17:05.580 Guiding energy is based on the idea that we all have an unseen life force energy that

01:17:11.020 flows through our bodies.

01:17:13.140 According to the International Center for Reiki Training, a Reiki practitioner gently moves

01:17:17.640 her hands.

01:17:18.720 So it seems to be, and I've seen this as well.

01:17:21.660 I've only been offered Reiki from a woman.

01:17:24.660 Reiki removes her hands just above or on the client's clothed body with the intention

01:17:28.940 of reducing stress and promoting healing by encouraging a healthy flow of energy.

01:17:33.420 Yeah.

01:17:34.420 It's like, how much of a vessel are we?

01:17:38.840 Let me hit that record.

01:17:40.040 You got it, man.

01:17:42.380 I was feeling guilty.

01:17:43.760 Oh, no, don't do it.

01:17:45.180 Don't re-trigger it, man.

01:17:48.240 Don't re-trigger it, Theo.

01:17:49.860 It's a horrible addiction.

01:17:51.460 I know it is.

01:17:52.060 I want out.

01:17:53.300 I've been thinking about getting acupuncture.

01:17:55.660 Like, go ahead.

01:17:56.760 It's actually a very good vape.

01:17:58.340 It's a nice flavor.

01:18:00.520 What do you think?

01:18:01.780 Isn't that great?

01:18:02.980 It is really good, man.

01:18:04.420 I'm sorry.

01:18:06.100 It's okay.

01:18:06.980 This is our lives, man.

01:18:08.080 I'm sorry.

01:18:08.340 I came in here and poisoned you.

01:18:10.900 It's a contagion.

01:18:12.440 I triggered your reaction.

01:18:14.700 I triggered you.

01:18:15.600 You had to have it.

01:18:16.640 I'm so sorry.

01:18:17.420 This is the problem.

01:18:18.140 Yeah.

01:18:18.980 When you're an advocate, it's good.

01:18:21.700 And also, that particular one has this weird heft to it that I like.

01:18:25.200 Yeah, it feels sturdier.

01:18:26.120 Kind of like a Jeep Grand Cherokee.

01:18:28.880 Yeah, or like a carpenter's vape.

01:18:31.180 It's like an industrial vape.

01:18:33.160 Keep it on the belt.

01:18:33.860 You know, energy blockage, man.

01:18:38.640 That does it to me.

01:18:39.720 Yes.

01:18:40.200 This is like, this is what, I don't want to get into vape lecturing anyone.

01:18:45.260 Everyone's addicted to this shit right now.

01:18:46.920 But the, like, I'm listening to this great book.

01:18:49.960 I think it's called Why We Meditate.

01:18:52.340 It's so good.

01:18:54.320 And basically, the idea is many people, me included, are in a hurry.

01:19:02.880 Rushing around.

01:19:03.620 And the reason we're in a hurry is because we have this speedy kind of energy in our chest.

01:19:08.600 It's that feeling when you're like, fuck, I got to go.

01:19:10.760 I got to do this.

01:19:11.320 I got to do that thing.

01:19:12.180 You should have seen me when I rolled in here.

01:19:13.400 I'm sorry, Zach.

01:19:14.100 I want to apologize again.

01:19:15.400 Me too.

01:19:15.880 I was, I know.

01:19:16.780 I, you know, I was excited to do, to see you.

01:19:19.580 But also, I'm like, fuck, I'm late.

01:19:22.020 You're doing this weird speedy thing.

01:19:23.640 Well, what's triggering that is energy.

01:19:27.500 That, you know, anyone who out there is anxious or feeling in a hurry or freaked out right now,

01:19:32.220 you can just tune into it.

01:19:33.620 Like, easily.

01:19:34.340 You just feel it.

01:19:35.020 It's like a fast kind of buzzing sort of weird energy in your chest, generally.

01:19:44.000 It's hard to get rid of it.

01:19:45.460 Well, that, right.

01:19:46.480 Well, it's a block.

01:19:47.180 So, according to this book, that energy is supposed to be under your belly button, not

01:19:53.180 up in your chest.

01:19:54.140 Like, your energy's gotten all fucked up, but now it's all stuck in your chest.

01:19:57.780 And so, like, via, like, meditation, breathing exercises, you, the idea is over time, you

01:20:04.360 sort of retrain yourself to get that energy throughout your whole body.

01:20:08.120 It's like, it's not supposed to be just here.

01:20:10.640 Imagine if you could spread it out, like, nice peanut butter over your entire psychic body.

01:20:17.240 That would be very powerful.

01:20:19.060 It's just not supposed to be right.

01:20:21.320 You're not supposed to be freebasing the anxiety.

01:20:23.480 Yeah, I feel like that's the culture we're in now, where we are freebasing our own anxiety.

01:20:31.140 Yeah, man.

01:20:31.820 We have boiled it down to, like, just a granular, powerful rock.

01:20:37.140 It's like fentanyl.

01:20:38.320 We've done the same thing fentanyl did for heroin.

01:20:41.280 We just figured out a way to just hyper-accentuate our anxiety.

01:20:46.980 And coffee doesn't help.

01:20:47.960 I mean, I was in Red Bull.

01:20:49.700 Nothing else, man.

01:20:50.700 It's already yawn in here, but I think that was, like, my body saying, hey, man, we're

01:20:55.440 trying to slow it down.

01:20:56.800 Do you feel overwhelmed?

01:20:58.040 I'm sorry to cut you off.

01:20:59.000 Yeah, I feel overwhelmed a lot.

01:20:59.420 You have one of the top podcasts right now.

01:21:02.740 We've been fortunate.

01:21:03.700 And I want to come on your show, too.

01:21:05.480 Thank you.

01:21:06.220 I owe you that.

01:21:07.340 Thank you.

01:21:07.820 I know a few years ago we had talked about it.

01:21:09.900 And I think, I don't know if you asked me or not, and then I think the pandemic happened.

01:21:14.520 And I think I said that I was, there was a time where I was going through a space where

01:21:19.180 I could barely even talk to people at all.

01:21:21.060 Oh, my God.

01:21:21.980 So, but let's get that done here.

01:21:24.400 And I don't know if you can do it over Zoom.

01:21:25.660 If not, I'll.

01:21:26.340 Zoom.

01:21:26.720 It's all, mine's easy.

01:21:27.780 It's all remote.

01:21:28.520 You don't have to be anywhere at your convenience.

01:21:30.860 You're busy, man.

01:21:31.780 You're touring all the time.

01:21:33.000 But I want to do it soon.

01:21:33.760 I want to do it in the next month or two so that we can, I want to bury that.

01:21:37.840 That's been a little bit of a hatchet for me in my life.

01:21:39.920 Because I know I brought it up.

01:21:41.380 Well, I said I wanted to do it and never did it.

01:21:43.820 Thank you.

01:21:44.260 Theo, apology accepted.

01:21:46.440 It's so fun just to spend time with you.

01:21:49.280 Oh, yeah.

01:21:49.300 Same.

01:21:49.660 That's what I'm realizing.

01:21:50.540 I'm like, I'm realizing I'm missing out sometimes on getting to spend time with people

01:21:54.400 because I get so caught up in my own responsibilities.

01:21:57.060 Well, podcasts are friendship dates.

01:21:58.620 Did you know that?

01:21:59.220 That's what it is.

01:21:59.800 It's a date for friendship.

01:22:00.960 It's how I meet all my friends.

01:22:01.080 Well, I just realized that the other day.

01:22:02.280 I went to do Rogan and I knew I was going to be in town for a bit, but he's so busy.

01:22:08.540 I mean, he's like, I can't even imagine how just busier responsibilities he has.

01:22:13.780 He's also a father.

01:22:14.860 You're a father.

01:22:16.000 Like, so I realized, man, I should have used that time with him on the show to be our friendship

01:22:22.320 time.

01:22:23.400 And sometimes I think of those times more as like, I do think of it as, but I could have

01:22:29.780 brought to him more like questions I have about things where like I could have used some

01:22:34.180 guidance or some suggestions or sometimes I, I, I don't know why I sometimes don't do

01:22:41.700 that, you know?

01:22:42.620 And I think with Joe, we're still getting to know each other some and his is such a big

01:22:46.900 show.

01:22:47.280 I think you are nervous as well, but, um, you know, that is like the abyss of that show

01:22:53.380 is the moment you start thinking about how many people watch it.

01:22:58.040 It's scary if you let your mind go there, man, that is a, I really try not to do that.

01:23:03.760 Like before I do, it's so easy to like, think about that.

01:23:07.000 And then you're like, Jesus fucking Christ.

01:23:08.420 This is like the top podcast earth, but yours is like the second I saw, we were scrolling

01:23:15.800 through something.

01:23:16.600 I don't know what it was, but I mean, shit.

01:23:19.240 We've been real fortunate, man.

01:23:21.180 You know, we've been real fortunate.

01:23:22.600 Well, you're funny too.

01:23:24.020 I mean, it's also, you're super funny.

01:23:25.540 I see your stuff pop up on my, my wife makes fun of me cause I do Instagram reels instead

01:23:31.420 of Tik TOK.

01:23:32.540 And she thinks that's an old man thing too, but your stuff pops up a lot.

01:23:37.140 It's very fun.

01:23:37.680 It's like, I love watching it.

01:23:39.120 Like it always makes me laugh.

01:23:40.840 Yeah.

01:23:41.200 We got all kinds of neat stuff out there.

01:23:43.180 Well, I think also you were such a unique thinker, man.

01:23:45.920 I think that, um, that we need, we're going to need you more and more in the future.

01:23:50.560 Are you feeling that, that you, whatever gifts you were kind of given, like, cause I know

01:23:55.160 in the beginning you were basically really just a comedian, right?

01:23:58.120 Yeah.

01:23:58.480 Was that your original goal?

01:23:59.940 Dude, I wish I could say I had an original goal.

01:24:03.120 That's my problem.

01:24:04.320 It's so malleable, malleable, chaotic.

01:24:07.500 Like, and also I, I really try as much as possible, not out of some, not spiritual high

01:24:14.620 road in here, but I, man, I try to stay in the present moment, not because of this is

01:24:22.720 where you should be to find peace, but because man, when I go too far up here or I go into

01:24:27.720 the future or I go into the past, I just freak the fuck out.

01:24:30.960 But if I'm like here in the moment and just letting like the moment happen, it's so wonderful.

01:24:38.020 And so, and then when I start thinking like, what the fuck am I, am I a podcaster, a comedian

01:24:42.920 and am I a voice actor?

01:24:45.900 What the fuck am I?

01:24:47.360 I freak out cause it's like, I have no idea.

01:24:50.340 So it just seems easier to be like, all right.

01:24:52.320 Let's just grow with the punches and be who I am.

01:24:54.640 Yeah.

01:24:55.140 Right.

01:24:55.520 And hope for the fucking best.

01:24:57.020 Right.

01:24:57.280 Because that's all you can really do.

01:24:59.200 I mean, honestly, like looking at the world right now, as it is, it's like, come on.

01:25:05.700 Like, are we really going to have a next week?

01:25:07.940 Right.

01:25:08.480 You think we're going to have a next month?

01:25:09.980 I don't know.

01:25:10.560 I mean, there's aliens on the front porch.

01:25:12.580 Yes.

01:25:13.060 There's fucking, people are fighting.

01:25:15.220 We don't even know who's really behind the fighting.

01:25:17.660 There's like old war debts and like IOUs from companies that are like from Black Rock and

01:25:25.040 Slumberjay that are probably still are milling around in the distance of invoices being sent

01:25:30.580 to countries and people have died in wars that we don't even know if they were given the

01:25:37.440 right reason they were fighting for.

01:25:39.460 Oh, you mean the, the, the, the, this is the crazy thing about the Russia thing, man.

01:25:43.720 These, these are conscripts.

01:25:45.780 Like everyone's self.

01:25:46.800 What's a conscript?

01:25:47.500 It means that you are drafted.

01:25:49.480 And, and, uh, the, the real problem with all the people celebrating the death of, of Russian

01:25:54.720 soldiers, like, like they're fucking blow up dolls is that you, I get not liking a dictator,

01:26:02.700 Putin and fucking invaded Ukraine.

01:26:04.440 Fuck you.

01:26:04.920 But you can't forget, and this is the paradox, a lot of those people on the front lines getting

01:26:11.480 blown up by drones were political prisoners.

01:26:13.820 Right.

01:26:14.460 They got forced to go fight in a goddamn meat grinder by the dude who arrested them because

01:26:22.300 they tried to get him out of office.

01:26:24.380 Wow.

01:26:25.300 Imagine that.

01:26:26.160 You know what I mean, man?

01:26:27.280 It's really sad.

01:26:29.080 It's like these are, I mean, I don't know who's in jail in Russia.

01:26:33.040 Yeah.

01:26:33.380 I imagine there's some really scary people in Russian jails who did horrible things,

01:26:37.780 but I know for sure a lot of people in Russian jails are people who just protested like the

01:26:42.560 government.

01:26:43.220 Yeah.

01:26:43.780 And those are the ones who are on the front fucking lines.

01:26:46.160 So it's like, you can't really celebrate the fact that some majority or some, some percentage

01:26:51.820 of them are, are like, were actually activists.

01:26:54.820 Some percentage of them were just trying to make more democracy happen in Russia.

01:26:59.720 Yeah.

01:26:59.920 And they got arrested.

01:27:01.260 So yeah, man, exactly.

01:27:02.780 World War three.

01:27:03.760 Oh, by the way, I'm, I don't, I'm not trying to get all negative here.

01:27:06.760 No, we're just looking at the landscape of things.

01:27:09.260 I think most people are thinking that.

01:27:10.600 But, but here right now, hanging out with you, talking, telling stories.

01:27:16.540 And for most people, you know, this moment is so beautiful.

01:27:20.580 Yeah.

01:27:21.020 Like, look how beautiful, even like in a podcast studio where there's like cameras and lights,

01:27:25.700 just like how cool it is just to exist.

01:27:29.120 There's color.

01:27:29.840 And, oh yeah, existing is great, man.

01:27:32.020 You have to, and you have to remember that, that, hey, at least I get to be here for whatever

01:27:35.700 this is.

01:27:36.400 Yeah.

01:27:37.060 At least nature gave me a, like, I've gotten to come to the edge of the fishbowl for a

01:27:42.560 moment and whatever the existence of the universe is and have open eyes and see something like,

01:27:49.840 you know what I'm saying?

01:27:50.960 Like it's all going to fucking disappear.

01:27:52.880 So it's like the fact that we're even getting to see a little bit of it or have feelings

01:27:57.500 like love or, um, jerking off or hugging somebody or eating some salmon or something.

01:28:04.940 You're having some, you know, you're getting to have some unique moments or having a child

01:28:08.520 and hugging your child and getting your child, um, you know, a chocolate or something, you

01:28:13.860 know, it's nice.

01:28:14.760 It's the best.

01:28:15.660 And in that, like the thing I've realized lately is the amount of anxiety or worry that

01:28:22.260 I'm experiencing in the present moment, if I let myself worry about some future catastrophe

01:28:28.600 is actually worse than if the catastrophe happened.

01:28:32.620 You have, you know what I'm talking about?

01:28:33.840 Like, totally.

01:28:34.780 Like you imagine the thing you're most afraid of happening, whatever it may be.

01:28:38.320 And then think about how bad you feel as you worry over it versus the day after that

01:28:44.040 rotten thing happens.

01:28:45.520 So it's like you're worse off and it hasn't even happened than if it did happen.

01:28:51.980 Yeah.

01:28:52.060 You're already suffering an outcome that you don't even know if it's real or not.

01:28:57.120 And nine out of 10 times, it's not as bad, not as bad.

01:29:00.740 Nine out of 10 times, whatever it is.

01:29:02.920 I mean, obviously there's a few things that are going to be worse than feeling anxious,

01:29:06.940 getting like slowly eaten by a bear.

01:29:09.200 Yeah.

01:29:10.240 That's going to be worse than like whatever your emotional state is.

01:29:14.060 But most things.

01:29:15.780 Pretty cool.

01:29:16.480 And I probably death too.

01:29:18.280 I imagine.

01:29:18.680 I imagine death is like the ultimate version of like, fuck, I spent my whole life worrying

01:29:22.940 about this.

01:29:23.560 Right.

01:29:23.800 This is real chill.

01:29:25.200 This is great.

01:29:26.820 Yeah.

01:29:27.040 It's probably like going through one of those turnstile things.

01:29:28.760 Like it's a little wonky at first and you bump into it and you're like, oh, this thing

01:29:32.580 doesn't even fucking open.

01:29:33.720 Do I have the right thing?

01:29:34.920 And then it opens.

01:29:36.120 You're like, oh.

01:29:36.800 Oh, right.

01:29:37.740 Here we are.

01:29:38.420 Here we are again.

01:29:39.080 This is where I always come.

01:29:40.220 And it's beautiful.

01:29:41.440 And my every single day I was like trying to protect myself from this.

01:29:47.420 Oh, you know what?

01:29:48.540 I'll do it again.

01:29:49.340 And then you reincarnate again.

01:29:50.460 And eventually maybe you figure it out.

01:29:52.780 Do you think everybody gets drafted for reincarnation?

01:29:55.740 I don't think so.

01:29:56.580 What do you mean?

01:29:59.420 Do you think God redrafts?

01:30:01.500 Does everybody get drafted for reincarnation?

01:30:03.500 You, like, the model I like for reincarnation is that it is that you don't have to, but you

01:30:14.900 probably will, and that you've been doing it forever.

01:30:18.840 Like the amount of time.

01:30:19.560 If you're a human, you've been incarnating so many times, it's impossible to even imagine

01:30:25.260 how long you've been reappearing.

01:30:27.120 I don't know.

01:30:27.620 Some people are brand new humans, though.

01:30:30.140 You ever get that fresh out the box, motherfucker?

01:30:32.700 You're like, yeah, this is your first lap on this pony, homie.

01:30:38.740 You know?

01:30:40.320 He's, like, trying to get on the horse.

01:30:41.980 He's like, I don't know what to do, you know?

01:30:44.260 I've been a bumblebee for the last 6,000 incarnations.

01:30:48.780 You want me to suddenly be a fucking human?

01:30:50.840 Drive a car?

01:30:52.580 Yeah, man.

01:30:53.720 Yeah, I think it's possible.

01:30:55.820 He's just fucking driving Uber and just hand-eating honey out of a jar the whole time.

01:31:02.840 I was a fly.

01:31:04.360 I was a slug.

01:31:06.060 And I'm a human now.

01:31:07.680 That's it.

01:31:08.400 Have some patience.

01:31:09.800 Have patience.

01:31:10.600 Those people should have a little sign on them that says, look, this is the last seven things I was,

01:31:15.240 so cut me a little bit of slack here.

01:31:18.580 Like, damn, this guy was a daddy long legs four times in a row.

01:31:22.460 I was a bacteria.

01:31:24.020 And now he's Luka Doncic.

01:31:26.480 Jesus Christ, man.

01:31:29.160 Have some support for the guy.

01:31:32.240 Give him a break.

01:31:33.220 Yeah, you're right.

01:31:35.000 It's, like, it's bullshit.

01:31:36.240 It's, like, there's all these old souls floating around, like, acting like this human thing

01:31:41.140 is easy, flowing with every moment, and making it see.

01:31:45.600 It's, like, no, fuck you.

01:31:46.840 You're like the guy at the gym.

01:31:48.160 You're like the guy at the gym with a six-pack and the perfect fucking body who's been working

01:31:52.780 out their whole lives.

01:31:54.340 And that belt, and he has the weight just hanging off the belt the whole time he's at the gym?

01:31:58.440 What is that?

01:31:59.140 What is that?

01:32:00.460 That's crazy.

01:32:01.340 It's crazy, yeah.

01:32:02.560 I mean, I think this is what I love.

01:32:04.480 Even if it's not real, reincarnation is a method for self, for being compassionate to yourself.

01:32:10.260 Because it's, like, you don't know what you were in your last lifetime.

01:32:12.940 You want to talk about epigenetics affecting current behavior patterns.

01:32:16.280 According to these ideas, your past lives and decisions you've made in your past lives

01:32:20.640 are flowering right now and at the present moment.

01:32:23.260 So when you're beating yourself up, you know, about this or that, it could be that really

01:32:28.840 what you're experiencing is karma from the time you thought it would be funny to grab

01:32:33.740 the baby out of the baby carriage and throw it in front of a truck or something in the early

01:32:38.180 40s.

01:32:39.160 You know what I mean?

01:32:39.740 You don't know what the bad luck you're experiencing is necessarily originating from.

01:32:45.960 Right.

01:32:46.120 This could be, yeah.

01:32:46.800 This could be some guy, a previous life.

01:32:49.080 You're paying the debts of a previous existence.

01:32:52.400 Exactly.

01:32:53.300 So just take it easy on yourself.

01:32:54.940 Take it easy on yourself because it's, who knows?

01:32:57.280 Well, it's hard to stomach.

01:32:58.140 And I think, though, that if we lived still in tribal communities and stuff and there was

01:33:02.360 a lot more connectivity between past lives and we honored, like, who had died previously

01:33:06.900 and this and that and we were still connected to them.

01:33:09.200 I think then you would have more, like, compassion from your group.

01:33:12.560 Like, oh, what you're dealing with now is what grandfather so-and-so did.

01:33:18.160 And, you know, it's still making its way out of the DNA back into nature.

01:33:26.040 Yeah.

01:33:26.520 Whitney's having that baby, man.

01:33:28.400 Congratulations.

01:33:29.060 Mazel tov, Whitney.

01:33:29.860 That's great.

01:33:30.520 That's great.

01:33:31.420 It's so cool.

01:33:32.160 It's the best.

01:33:32.980 I never, did you guys ever date you and Whitney?

01:33:35.180 No.

01:33:35.760 Yeah, me neither.

01:33:36.260 Never dated.

01:33:36.680 Did you want to, did...

01:33:40.500 I probably, I think, maybe, you know, I wouldn't have minded maybe a date or something, probably.

01:33:46.680 Yeah, of course.

01:33:48.460 I think there's something that happens as you get older, if you don't have a family, when

01:33:51.820 women start to get knocked up or when people start to sparse off.

01:33:56.960 My best friend, Scott, just got engaged, where you start thinking like, oh.

01:34:00.440 Oh, shit.

01:34:01.620 I know what you're talking about.

01:34:03.580 You're experiencing a version of what we're all going to experience in our 70s.

01:34:07.600 My meditation teacher's teacher, Chokyam Trungpa Rinpoche, said to him, when you get old, your

01:34:14.320 friends start dying like flies, just dying.

01:34:17.560 So now what you're experiencing is like pre-death, they're going into a new life.

01:34:21.360 They're being reincarnated as a parent.

01:34:23.740 And you know, no matter what they're saying, no matter how much comfort they may or may

01:34:30.000 not be offering you regarding their presence in your life, you know, it's just not, they're

01:34:35.700 going to blink out of your reality for a little bit.

01:34:38.600 It's going to change.

01:34:39.360 Yeah.

01:34:39.500 It's going to change.

01:34:40.080 It has to.

01:34:41.220 There, everything shifts, everything.

01:34:43.620 And you, there's just like no way around that.

01:34:46.440 I mean, kids are a, it's a full-time experience.

01:34:49.960 It's, you, you want to hang out and, but you know what we experienced the, the breeders

01:34:55.600 we experienced, our friends eventually being like, not asking us if we want to go get a

01:35:01.240 drink anymore because they know, because every time they ask, like, fuck, got to get a babysitter.

01:35:06.060 Oh, I can't, I'm doing this or that.

01:35:08.020 And then, so it's, it sucks at that level, man.

01:35:11.540 I mean, it takes extra discipline.

01:35:13.460 I'm sorry, man.

01:35:14.440 You know what?

01:35:15.700 You, maybe it's time to start seeking your, uh,

01:35:19.960 life partner.

01:35:21.140 I think some of that is true too, you know, I think I had, well, when I went to, and I

01:35:26.100 did ayahuasca, I think it was probably maybe a year ago.

01:35:28.600 Right.

01:35:29.000 And so that was the first time that I started having an experience with like the younger

01:35:32.940 me, like the child me, you know, and realizing that I just had never wanted to grow up because

01:35:39.440 I never got to be the child I wanted to be.

01:35:42.220 Right.

01:35:42.600 I had this, and I'm not like having self pity.

01:35:46.300 I'm not trying to just like, Oh, but there.

01:35:49.940 There was a lot of, I think I had held a huge grudge against the world.

01:35:56.660 And then of just life, the way things have played out that I hadn't gotten to have the

01:36:01.060 childhood I wanted, you know, or, and there wasn't enough lessons in it that helped me

01:36:06.120 to easily adapt into the world.

01:36:08.580 And so I, uh, but I didn't realize that until ayahuasca, cause then you're right there with

01:36:13.880 your younger self, you know?

01:36:15.300 Yeah.

01:36:15.580 And that was pretty crazy.

01:36:17.200 You'd be like, Oh, wow.

01:36:19.980 Um, you know, it's time for me to be an apparent, somebody at some point has to be a parent to

01:36:29.140 this child inside of me.

01:36:30.400 Yeah.

01:36:30.720 Otherwise I'll just forever be this child inside of me.

01:36:33.400 So if I want to have a, an adult life as well, then I'm going to have to start to evolve

01:36:40.260 some, you know?

01:36:41.960 Yeah.

01:36:42.440 And some of that's kind of sad because you're letting, you're basically watching this child,

01:36:46.640 like, you know, you're helping this child grow up, but you're letting this child know,

01:36:51.380 like, Hey, you know, I'll take it from here.

01:36:55.220 I love you.

01:36:56.540 I'm going to take care of you.

01:36:58.740 Um, you're not going to be able to run the show all the time anymore.

01:37:01.360 Cause we got to grow up, you know?

01:37:03.800 Yeah.

01:37:04.680 Yeah.

01:37:05.200 And you know, it's being a parent, you go through these little micro griefs because you know,

01:37:11.540 it starts off, you were so in love with this baby.

01:37:15.920 You're so in love with like how, like just what it feels like to hold your kid, but they

01:37:20.980 obviously they grow.

01:37:23.080 Yeah.

01:37:23.300 And that baby goes away.

01:37:25.860 It's gone.

01:37:26.980 And you're, there's, there's a period where like, fuck, this is so sad.

01:37:30.700 This like beautiful, like kid is going to like, like change into something else.

01:37:36.460 But then the next phase you realize, Oh, I love what this being is becoming.

01:37:42.420 And, and so that, but that moment, that weird liminal moment between like, like lives.

01:37:50.280 Cause you know, I think people reincarnate in a lifetime.

01:37:52.380 Like what you're talking about, it is a weird form of, it's not, obviously it's not physical

01:37:56.700 death, but it is, you're letting go of some, of something.

01:38:01.260 Oh, it feels like that a lot.

01:38:02.900 Yeah, man.

01:38:03.640 It really does.

01:38:04.340 I can feel it.

01:38:05.000 I can, there's moments I have where I can feel it.

01:38:07.520 And I can feel myself doing certain things that are like, okay, I'm going to put this child

01:38:12.380 to bed, you know, put this young, not let this, you know, this child's going to start

01:38:17.960 to grow up.

01:38:18.820 You know, he has to, it's been too long.

01:38:21.300 And if he wants to have a family of his own, if he wants to be a father and be these things,

01:38:26.500 he's going to have to.

01:38:27.660 Dude, you'd be a great dad.

01:38:29.220 Thanks.

01:38:29.620 You know, the gift of having a sort of tumultuous childhood is that you, uh, you, when you have

01:38:37.100 a kid, like, I mean, you get to fix that a little bit.

01:38:42.600 Like you, you won't fix it completely.

01:38:44.380 Like it's so crazy when like aspects of your parents that maybe weren't the most evolved

01:38:50.760 bubble out of you and you realize, shit, this is why my parents were acting the way they

01:38:56.760 were acting.

01:38:57.320 They probably tried to stop this thing too.

01:38:59.760 It's very hard, but you, you have a real reason to evolve because you don't want to

01:39:05.800 like impact your kids in a dark way.

01:39:08.640 So man, I'm telling you from a like spiritual, like it's a, it's a brain scan, man.

01:39:16.560 Like you will understand so much more about your parents, mainly how much they loved you.

01:39:22.280 You mainly, you'll understand, holy fuck.

01:39:24.600 They love me so much.

01:39:26.460 There's no way you can't feel this for your kid.

01:39:29.120 And they tried their best.

01:39:30.540 Yeah.

01:39:30.900 They tried their fucking best.

01:39:33.020 And they, and, and, and that's a really wild thing is then you have to forgive them.

01:39:37.760 Like if you were carrying a chip on your shoulder about this or that, it'll, the chip will

01:39:42.100 dissolve a little bit.

01:39:43.140 Oh, I got a fucking 12 pack of Pringles on my back.

01:39:46.280 I've carried them.

01:39:47.180 I've carried them.

01:39:47.940 I think.

01:39:48.300 That's a lot of Pringles, man.

01:39:50.600 Yeah.

01:39:51.560 I've carried them a lot.

01:39:52.760 I've tried to get, I've tried, you know, I do 12 step.

01:39:55.080 I'm trying to get through some of it.

01:39:56.520 I just have to work a little bit harder and some of it takes time too.

01:39:59.240 You know, I've always been a slow evolver.

01:40:02.720 I've been a really hard decider in my life.

01:40:05.720 Everything's really slow.

01:40:07.600 So.

01:40:07.740 Yeah, man.

01:40:08.420 Some of it's just who I am, you know?

01:40:10.100 Slow is good.

01:40:11.860 Fast is suspicious.

01:40:13.700 Slow means you're like, when you do slow change, that's real change.

01:40:18.140 Fast change.

01:40:18.900 Whenever I do fast change.

01:40:19.740 Ooh, it makes you nervous.

01:40:20.840 That's like month long.

01:40:22.220 You know, it'll last for a month.

01:40:23.880 When I do a fast, you know, whatever the fucking thing is.

01:40:26.360 And you should be suspicious of anyone pitching fast change to you.

01:40:29.800 Yeah.

01:40:30.140 It doesn't really work like that.

01:40:31.900 It's slow.

01:40:33.180 And it's supposed to be.

01:40:34.480 And you don't need to be anything other than the way you are right now, man.

01:40:37.640 Like, that's just fine.

01:40:39.960 Like, this is fine.

01:40:41.440 Like, I'll tell you.

01:40:43.700 When I met my wife.

01:40:46.920 Like, I'd heard all these cheesy fucks who got married and had kids say,

01:40:51.300 I knew we were going to get married.

01:40:53.760 I knew we were going to have kids.

01:40:55.160 And I was like, okay, whatever.

01:40:58.240 That's such horse shit.

01:41:00.480 Yeah.

01:41:01.160 And then it happened to me.

01:41:02.880 It wasn't like, like.

01:41:05.420 What happened?

01:41:06.000 You just started talking to her and what happened?

01:41:07.580 Let me hit that ripper one more time.

01:41:08.680 You got it, man.

01:41:09.540 What happened was, the best.

01:41:11.780 It's like, you know, it's like you watch people who put their foot in fast moving water.

01:41:21.040 And it's just like, they're gone.

01:41:23.340 It's like that.

01:41:24.440 You know, like, the concept of control when it comes to, like, dating and finding someone that you decide to, like, spend your life with.

01:41:34.700 I think it's a little naive.

01:41:36.040 Like, I think there's big, big gears in the universe that we can't see, like, behind the watch face that are just turning.

01:41:44.600 And I know this sounds so new agey and cheesy, but sometimes I think it's like you meet the person at just the right time because the souls of your kids are ready to come into the universe at that time.

01:41:57.820 That makes sense.

01:41:59.420 Like, you know what I mean?

01:42:00.180 Like, right now, your kids could be, like, in their 70s or 60s right now in a previous life.

01:42:07.040 About to expire in a few years and they're ready to pop back in.

01:42:09.840 Yeah.

01:42:10.140 And that's when you meet the person who they choose you and then they bring you together and then you are, like, that's when it happens.

01:42:20.300 Yeah.

01:42:20.480 I just, I mean, again, obviously, this is probably just horse shit, but when you're, like, when it happens, you realize, like, I don't know how much of this I had control over.

01:42:31.480 I don't know how much I chose this and how much I was chosen for it.

01:42:38.180 And so that means go slow.

01:42:40.820 Yeah.

01:42:42.440 Yeah, no, that's a really good, that's really nice to think on.

01:42:45.140 It's really nice to just kind of, yeah, because it takes some of the pressure off of you.

01:42:48.600 Like, I don't feel a pressure to meet somebody now.

01:42:52.080 I do feel like I try to be a little bit more, like, open about dating or trying to at least meet with somebody to see if they're that person or if there's a possibility, you know, like.

01:43:06.300 But it's been, it's definitely, it's been interesting.

01:43:09.260 Yeah, but I like that, that, you know, the next phase is supposed to come into the universe and then what that, what is that going to be like?

01:43:15.580 And how are you just part of the stepping stone for the next part of life?

01:43:20.480 Because in a way, that's really all you are.

01:43:22.160 Like, we have a ton of thoughts about, like, if you just saw two animals go hump in the woods somewhere and then two months later they had a child, you'd be like, oh, it seems.

01:43:32.980 But if they were, like, pining around, if you followed one of the animals for, like, four years before and he's just, like, fucking rubbing his weaner up against a bush and fucking, you know, like, coming on, you know, just fucking chasing, like, you know, other animals and shit.

01:43:48.980 And you'd be, like, watching all his thoughts and he's, like, sleeping in the woods and fucking drinking dirty water to get fucked up and stuff.

01:43:55.980 You'd be like, God.

01:43:57.100 Getting dumb tattoos.

01:43:58.600 This guy, yeah, yeah, dude, he rolls up, like, yeah, if animals were like us and they fucking rolled up with all these dumb tattoos and fucking CrossFit memberships and shit and he's fucking.

01:44:12.760 Holy shit, man.

01:44:13.960 Like, yeah, old exercise video DVDs in their nest.

01:44:17.800 Like, God, animal, take it easy on yourself, man.

01:44:23.760 One of these days nature is just going to send the right lioness along and it'll all make sense, you know.

01:44:30.120 Yeah, exactly.

01:44:30.740 Like, think of, like, what got you to where you're at now.

01:44:33.100 And then when you really look at it, like, obviously you made a choice to work hard.

01:44:37.700 I think that is something we have control over.

01:44:39.440 I chose work.

01:44:40.340 You chose to work hard.

01:44:41.280 But then if you look at all the people who helped you and all the people you met and all the inspirations you got around a corner you didn't expect to turn down and all those things, at some point you have to be like, I don't know how much of this I'm responsible for.

01:44:56.300 100%.

01:44:56.660 Other than working hard.

01:44:57.640 So if that's the case, for everything good in a person's life, it's going to be the same for meeting, you know, a person that you are going to be with in a serious way, like in a marriage situation.

01:45:12.320 Because I think you rush the shit or you, or more importantly, you pretend you're having the feeling that this is the person you'll spend forever with versus really having the feeling because there's night and day difference between the two.

01:45:30.480 You get into trouble.

01:45:31.540 You can't pretend.

01:45:33.100 You have to listen because you know.

01:45:35.660 I mean, it's nuts, man.

01:45:37.220 Like, you just knew.

01:45:38.520 Man, it was the weirdest.

01:45:41.840 It was so weird.

01:45:44.360 And were we all at a park or something?

01:45:45.900 Were we all at?

01:45:47.940 Where you saw your lady at?

01:45:49.760 Oh, yeah.

01:45:50.940 I was doing a comedy show and she was friends with my friend and yeah, she had just come there because like, yeah, she's hanging out and then we were hanging out and then it was like, it's weird.

01:46:06.540 It was weird, man.

01:46:07.540 It was just like fusion or something.

01:46:10.480 I can't explain it.

01:46:11.860 I mean, this is not to say it was perfect.

01:46:15.160 No.

01:46:15.360 It's not to say like credits roll movie, like happy, you know, romantic movie score.

01:46:20.960 I mean, I don't think any marriage could possibly be like that.

01:46:23.520 But it was just, I don't know how to explain it other than it's like, oh, yeah, we are already married in some weird way.

01:46:31.080 It's like, it's like rippling backwards through time.

01:46:34.040 Who knows?

01:46:35.400 Maybe it's pheromones.

01:46:36.380 You know what?

01:46:36.760 I'm, you know, maybe the materials are right.

01:46:39.060 And it's just like her.

01:46:40.700 Enough of the stink was my stink and her stink was a good like combination of stinks, you know, maybe.

01:46:48.580 But I don't know.

01:46:49.840 I feel like it was something bigger than that.

01:46:51.500 I think it will be for you, too.

01:46:53.040 It will be.

01:46:53.900 And then you'll be like, holy shit.

01:46:56.920 Wow.

01:46:57.200 I'm fucking married.

01:46:58.520 I have kids.

01:47:00.000 I've abandoned all that freedom.

01:47:02.660 What have I done?

01:47:03.940 Yeah.

01:47:04.360 I'm just kidding.

01:47:07.620 I'm just kidding.

01:47:08.920 I'm just fucking kidding.

01:47:10.260 Look, some of that makes sense.

01:47:11.500 Yeah.

01:47:11.820 Well, the snake has to shed its skin or the snake dies.

01:47:15.600 That's what I start to feel, too.

01:47:17.280 I remember a few years ago, I was sitting in, I was doing an episode of King and the Sting podcast because I usually work on there with Brennan Schaub and Krista Lee and Eric Griffin.

01:47:26.840 I don't know if Krista's on there yet, but I remember thinking like, I remember talking about to them, like, do we evolve?

01:47:33.000 Like, when do we evolve?

01:47:33.740 We evolve, you know, like, when do, are there times in our lives as humans where we are like, I was almost asking the world, I feel like, when I think back on that moment, because I was surprised that I was thinking about it or asking about it, but I was like, when do we evolve?

01:47:51.000 When do I evolve?

01:47:53.160 And I didn't know what it meant, really.

01:47:54.840 And I still don't exactly, but I think I was looking to evolve at that point.

01:48:00.340 And I think a lot of that was probably from that ayahuasca experience.

01:48:02.940 Right.

01:48:03.180 That stuff's so powerful, you know.

01:48:04.440 Have you been through it?

01:48:05.240 Not yet.

01:48:06.180 I'm a little afraid.

01:48:07.140 I mean, I've, you know, I've smoked DMT like everybody else.

01:48:10.140 So I've experienced like some taste of what it must be.

01:48:12.300 But a four-hour, three-hour DMT trip just sounds completely life-altering.

01:48:20.220 Like, and I know many people who have benefited massively from it.

01:48:25.180 So I will eventually do it.

01:48:27.220 But yeah, I mean, dude, you, here's one idea.

01:48:31.180 But you don't need to evolve.

01:48:34.420 Actually, the evolution is just realizing where you're at right now is perfect.

01:48:41.440 That's the evolution.

01:48:42.700 It's letting go of the fantasy of some future better version of you and loving yourself right

01:48:48.720 now.

01:48:49.040 Instead of crucifying yourself on what you should be or could be, this is perfect.

01:48:55.220 Not just like the nice parts of you.

01:48:57.780 The whole spectrum is great.

01:49:01.120 And that, if you can really like just let yourself play around with that.

01:49:06.800 You take a vacation from self-hate or whatever.

01:49:10.200 For most people, it's not self-hate.

01:49:12.300 That term gets thrown around a lot.

01:49:14.080 It's more like self, like tiny microaggressions against oneself.

01:49:20.640 Tiny moments where you like judge yourself as being, you know, somehow unevolved or not enough.

01:49:30.680 Not enough.

01:49:31.320 Or messed up or broken or whatever.

01:49:32.980 Yeah.

01:49:33.280 And then, you know what happens for a lot of people doing that?

01:49:36.040 They get hit by a fucking car crossing the street.

01:49:38.920 They never evolved.

01:49:40.240 They died.

01:49:41.400 Their last thought was hating themselves.

01:49:44.260 Or I didn't order a bus.

01:49:45.940 Yes, dude.

01:49:47.880 So like this is the, to me, that's the, anytime, and I'm not able to do, I'm very neurotic

01:49:53.020 and quite often I will like get down on myself.

01:49:55.660 But anytime I'm able, especially in the midst of like really bad times, to not resist that,

01:50:04.180 to just like, this is what's happening.

01:50:06.460 I'm part of the universe.

01:50:07.580 And right now I fucking stink and I'm tired and I'm annoyed.

01:50:11.960 And I was just an asshole to the guy putting doorknobs on the door in my house.

01:50:18.220 But this is where I'm at right now.

01:50:20.960 This is it.

01:50:22.180 Yeah.

01:50:22.400 Somehow that's where the aggression that causes all the things we wish we didn't do dissipates.

01:50:29.560 And then suddenly you're just the universe again.

01:50:31.740 You're just part of the web of everythingness.

01:50:34.840 And it's really a delight.

01:50:36.820 Yeah.

01:50:37.420 Yeah.

01:50:38.540 Yeah.

01:50:38.900 I know there are moments like that.

01:50:40.040 I had a couple of moments this morning.

01:50:41.040 I just hit my knees.

01:50:41.900 I was like, God, I just, I can't do anything.

01:50:45.320 Right.

01:50:46.100 Nothing is, you know, just let me just be a part of the world.

01:50:51.820 Let me just realize none of this matters.

01:50:54.740 I'm not going to, there's nothing I'm going to do today.

01:50:57.020 That's going to change the fucking world.

01:50:59.140 There's nothing I'm going to do today.

01:51:00.300 That's going to alter my life in some huge way.

01:51:03.700 Let me just try and be palatable to other people today.

01:51:08.440 Dude, I love it.

01:51:09.920 That, and I think that is a noble aspiration.

01:51:12.400 And I think that that is a wonderful, everyone, dude, I know because I'm guilty of it, man.

01:51:16.900 I like, I instantaneously want to be better.

01:51:21.020 When I'm sick, I want to be better tomorrow.

01:51:23.540 When I'm like, when I'm too fat, I want to lose the fucking weight tomorrow.

01:51:29.420 I don't want the slow boil.

01:51:31.800 I want to instantaneously change.

01:51:33.820 And the whole universe doesn't work like that.

01:51:35.660 Nothing works like that except bad things.

01:51:38.620 You can like instantaneously make yourself worse.

01:51:41.800 Yeah, like 9-11.

01:51:42.860 Yes!

01:51:43.580 But the good stuff, it's slow.

01:51:46.080 Like, it's like the comparison gets made to one way to think of your life as like rising sun versus setting sun.

01:51:52.860 And like, look at the way the sun rises.

01:51:55.640 It is so, for such an incredibly powerful event, it's so weirdly slow.

01:52:02.140 Like the way the light gradually changes.

01:52:05.360 That's anyone's life.

01:52:06.960 And that's why it's like, shit, man, a temporary cloud passes in front of a sunrise.

01:52:15.220 And it might seem like it's becoming night again.

01:52:18.220 But that's just a, it's a cloud.

01:52:19.880 You know it's getting, the sun's rising, you know what's happening, and you just start trusting that.

01:52:25.720 And then, at least for me, you know, I become less, it's just a paradoxical.

01:52:30.860 Because somehow by not attempting to elevate myself to some super egoic, spiritual position, I've, I've, that's where happiness seems to appear.

01:52:43.640 Yeah, just trust in the sun.

01:52:45.400 Just trust in the speed of the sun, you know.

01:52:47.780 Yeah, trust in the speed of the sun.

01:52:49.280 It's been there for a long time.

01:52:51.040 It'll be there a long time.

01:52:51.260 It knows what it's doing.

01:52:52.080 Yeah, I think it knows what it's doing.

01:52:53.600 Yeah.

01:52:54.280 Yeah, at this point, let's rely on a few things that know what they're doing, you know.

01:52:57.720 Yeah, you can trust the sun.

01:52:59.420 I mean, maybe not.

01:53:00.240 This is, they were getting, apparently we're getting blasted by solar flares, not to fuck up whatever.

01:53:03.880 Oh.

01:53:04.660 Spiritual apex we just hit.

01:53:06.980 Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!

01:53:09.840 It's, we're getting blasted by like, I don't know, class 50 flares.

01:53:14.420 They're like, the internet's gonna go down.

01:53:17.000 Bring them on, man.

01:53:18.000 In general, you can trust the sun.

01:53:19.600 Yeah, in general.

01:53:20.400 Yeah, yeah.

01:53:20.740 this is a general hypothesis um yeah you know i think it's been interesting i've been dealing

01:53:28.780 with my own ego too in the past year that's been interesting you know as life gets busier yeah and

01:53:34.120 as uh my ego is very scary to me you know the ego is very scary i feel like well how do you

01:53:41.100 describe your ego what's your just like moments where i notice that i think i'm deserving of

01:53:45.940 things or i expect things and i can't tell if some of it's just because i'm busier and so you need

01:53:51.680 things to kind of fun you know you get used to some but it's like i want to be able to show up in like

01:53:57.400 my best way all the time you know and so so then it takes more work to kind of like cultivate and

01:54:04.280 nurture that best way of yourself you know right um and just kind of rolling with the you know it's

01:54:11.120 like uh so yeah i think the ego really scares me because you don't know what it is you know it's

01:54:17.320 the ego is always there yeah it's like your shadow it's always connected to you and it can it's such

01:54:25.600 a trickster you know and you can it can uh make you feel deservant of things it can make you feel um

01:54:35.000 smarter than p you know it's like yeah i just have to be care i just i'm it's just something

01:54:41.280 that's been kind of like on my mind i think it's so it's so embarrassing the ego is the source of

01:54:48.660 embarrassment because it's just like oh my dude what the fuck theo wants me to do his podcast again

01:54:54.880 what the fuck why won't he do mine well he must hate me does he secretly hate me i wonder if theo

01:55:00.620 von secretly hates me that you just told me you're in a bad spot not once was my ego compassionate not

01:55:06.640 once was like he's probably got a lot going on he's probably not feeling who knows what it is there's

01:55:10.200 many times you have like fucked up sending an email or or like been in a rotten depressed state

01:55:17.380 and have not wanted to talk to anybody no it didn't cross my ego's mind yeah my ego puffs out

01:55:23.180 gets butt hurt limps around it's like it's so it's so embarrassing it's so embarrassing but

01:55:31.880 to react to the ego in the negative to then go to war with that poor part of yourself that poor sad

01:55:41.240 ape in a cave part of yourself is disabled veteran fucking you know uh ship captain of a

01:55:49.960 of nobody else on the ship poor fucking thing it's been trying to protect you your whole life

01:55:56.800 and it's exhausted when you were a kid you developed it because you needed it to keep you safe and now

01:56:03.740 it's so tired it doesn't make as much sense anymore it's like i guess that's dangerous fuck that guy we

01:56:10.920 gotta punish that person i think i don't know you know so some combat like i'm not don't succumb to

01:56:18.280 the poor thing but when you realize that's been one of your number one shield bearers i know for

01:56:22.780 the entirety of your life and then suddenly everyone's like i'm gonna take enough acid to

01:56:27.120 evaporate you motherfucker that's crazy what i've been i've been protecting you you yeah i'm just

01:56:34.160 gonna euthanize you your teeth are falling out fuck you it's so sad dude i wonder if we didn't be

01:56:41.100 if our ego walked in the room if we'd be in what it would look like bro that would be such a crazy

01:56:46.480 game show what if we're what if we're able to get to a point one time in existence where our

01:56:53.160 where people have to show your ego it's like move that bus who was that dude that used to do that

01:56:59.540 move that bus let me hit that dude i would never yeah ty pennington dude you should do move that and

01:57:09.120 people were like show your ego and then it's just some fucking like maybe like a midget comes out

01:57:16.160 playing like a fucking trumpet you know and he's got a bunch of whores with him like oh damn my ego is

01:57:22.020 fucking everybody's ego would have a much bigger dick

01:57:26.120 like everybody's ego would have an enormous cock

01:57:31.360 my bald spot would be gone i would have embarrassing flowing locks i think i might have a gold chain

01:57:41.460 like i think there would be gold chains and there would definitely be spandex involved

01:57:46.200 maybe like a fashion cane yeah and somebody carrying a microwave for you that just makes

01:57:51.860 unlimited pancakes coming out of you yeah there would have to be yeah your ego would like you

01:57:58.960 would also have to present your ego's imaginary entourage like all the people your ego fantasizes

01:58:04.900 being surrounded by one of mine would be china that wrestler that died a long time oh fuck yeah i know i

01:58:11.880 would want yeah i would definitely want uh somehow i don't know why i'd want like steven a lot of steven

01:58:17.940 steven spielberg steven king steven hawking and you know i would want to be surrounded on one side

01:58:24.820 by all like these incredible creators i respect who like were coming to me for inspiration and then on

01:58:33.560 the other side just an ocean of beautiful women like weeping for me there would be a cult sort of

01:58:40.180 thing happening for my ego too celine dion's there maybe some celine dion some yeah dion sanders maybe

01:58:47.880 dion celine dion sanders dude

01:58:50.960 oh my god you know what that's a you know i think you could animate that show actually i think there is

01:59:00.180 a way you could like act you could do that show without having to have some futuristic technology but

01:59:05.600 people would have to be completely honest with you and not afraid to and i think it would be good for

01:59:11.200 the world oh yeah when all of a sudden everyone witnesses oh shit everyone's got the same thing i

01:59:16.460 have riding around in the roller coaster that'd be good it's good for people it'd be good yeah i think

01:59:21.700 there would be interesting if there were game shows that were more bearing of our souls you know

01:59:27.320 in ways yeah maybe that will come as we get more technology that

01:59:32.840 tells us more about what's going on like that's the plane we're missing a lot of times with a lot of

01:59:39.140 like uh medical intuition or discovery through like mris and like it's like i wish there was another

01:59:49.060 type of mri like we were saying in the beginning that could evaluate where we are what lap is our soul

01:59:55.060 on what are we you know so then it's like when you met somebody like oh i see what's going on here

01:59:59.980 it's like you really get some intel this guy's on his six thousandth lap this dude was an egyptian

02:00:05.020 for fucking two thousand years yeah or this dude is his first run ever and he's based out of

02:00:10.100 minnesota yeah you know yeah this fucking asshole was hitler and now he's like driving an amazon

02:00:15.520 delivery truck what the fuck so let's just get him what he needs okay you're a great artist no really

02:00:23.260 you're an incredible artist i love your art please don't do another holocaust

02:00:29.820 i'll buy the painting it's great whatever you want nfts oh he's making nfts buy the fucking nfts just

02:00:37.760 buy them it doesn't matter dude it's crazy well when our body starts to do you see that video you

02:00:43.720 see that tito ortiz can you pull that out there was a tito ortiz video where he hit

02:00:48.300 mock seven or eight whoa and it shows you i think it made me think about wow what goes on

02:00:56.920 inside of us and what a shell our body is yeah man yeah man it's so wild it's the there's a whole

02:01:05.160 ecosystem happening in there a whole psychic ecosystem i know and there's like turtles in

02:01:10.500 there's everything dude a turtle swam up on the beach the other day in maui and uh i went to vacation

02:01:15.740 and a turtle was there and uh it was just fascinating people like going up and seeing it

02:01:22.660 and spending time by it they're so mystical the the hawaiian turtles are like holy creatures yeah you

02:01:29.620 feel lucky to be around them they're just they're so beautiful you ever go scuba diving um no you see

02:01:38.080 them in the water i mean when you see them on shore obviously that's like not their best

02:01:42.060 on shore they're kind of clumsy slow but in the water holy shit they're just you know they seem

02:01:48.860 like they would grant a wish or something yeah they're beautiful well it makes sense then i and

02:01:54.220 that's one thing what is this thank you friend this is tito ortiz yeah passes out he hit nine g's

02:02:03.040 who is i'm so sorry tito ortiz is a ufc he's a ufc wrestler he is a um he's also he does one thing

02:02:11.020 that's really neat about him he does all of the uh uh meals at the laugh factory he goes there and

02:02:18.420 passes out food that's cool on thanksgiving um he's a philanthropic dude that's cool um and he's

02:02:26.020 a famous uh ufc fighter can we go back and yell let's see that video but watch what happens it's

02:02:30.920 interesting to see what happens to the shell of us at certain uh levels yeah

02:02:36.540 you don't want to do so let me know if uh you don't want to do anything you profile

02:02:52.980 oh fuck that wow he's in there

02:03:07.380 this is a 9g simulator holy shit

02:03:13.820 wow

02:03:18.440 wow

02:03:31.440 go back to that moment where his face is limp it's kind of fascinating just to see

02:03:36.180 what you're uh and just pause it right there if you can find it zach on that screen

02:03:39.440 oh my god that's i mean right there i was like wow we are just our body it's just a such a shell

02:03:51.760 i mean here's a one of the toughest men you know how old are you i'm 43 i'm 48 man that is what i

02:03:58.060 look like when i wake up that's

02:03:59.740 you gotta sew it back together

02:04:06.900 push it up electroshock to get the things to work again

02:04:12.440 yeah that's crazy that that's yeah the mask is just sort of drooping off the skull the eyes

02:04:20.400 yeah man that's that's fucked and that's almost a way of looking at your you know that's a

02:04:26.160 that's a ego uh deflating moment to have this moment just be out there for him that's pretty

02:04:31.880 cool just like this is if you let my body just if let me let me show you what it is that it's on

02:04:39.160 uh refined form you know this is you know rogan talks about like this is like the benefit

02:04:46.140 of martial arts or like you know because you're you you're you're getting beaten up like i don't

02:04:54.900 know much about him i'm guessing in front of the planet he's been knocked out maybe or defeated i

02:05:00.220 don't know and once that happens to you that you know whatever it is the insecurity and stuff you

02:05:07.480 already got you know you you know that you are not perfect you know you're gonna lose fights

02:05:11.560 you know the way you got good at fighting is not by winning every fight and so apparently there's like

02:05:16.660 a benefit to that you know to to knowing where you're at you know that's why he does stuff like

02:05:22.420 that that's putting all you know man anytime you get around like anytime i've been around rogan and

02:05:28.100 we get to be around like a famous fighter they are weirdly similar to people at the ramdash retreats

02:05:35.920 really they've got this glow to them i mean again i'm making a blanket assessment for a few people

02:05:42.040 i've met no no oh yeah there's something fascinating about them it's almost like seeing some of them it's

02:05:46.340 like being around one of those turtles kind of yes they have this holy quality to them or this

02:05:51.520 spiritual component and and they you would almost forget the person you're sitting next to if for

02:05:58.200 whatever reason they decided to they would be the last person you saw you would like see them lunge

02:06:02.940 towards you and that's it you're dead you're dead you just forget it's like hanging around a really

02:06:10.260 well-behaved pitbull or something you forget and and also because they're just so sweet they're so sweet

02:06:17.920 and there's something there's something interesting about being able to be knocked out like to being

02:06:22.280 able to put yourself in that risk space you know of like yes because it's such a defeating thing you

02:06:28.420 know being knocked out it's everybody's biggest fear what if i got in that i was unconscious in front

02:06:33.960 of other like you're at you have no control over yourself you are you are at a level at a you are limp

02:06:43.140 you're limp you're limp in front of the planet yeah every your your wife might be in the audience

02:06:49.320 your kids are in the audience watching daddy your ego yeah your ego is like what the fuck you fucking

02:06:58.200 pussy look at you i told you to fucking dope i told you to use that new synthetic fucking testosterone

02:07:06.820 the russians developed yeah man i that's like yeah it's you there's something about you know

02:07:13.480 okay i don't know if you're familiar you're probably familiar with jack kerouac the beat poets

02:07:18.080 so i used to think the beat poets is they're called kerouac i guess ginsburg falls into that category

02:07:24.120 what about uh what's his name who was uh uh um william morrow's vonnegut was he a beat poet no

02:07:31.780 i think he was at the same time period but i don't know for sure i wish i were more literary than i

02:07:37.240 wasn't really in like the beat pack beat pack was that kerouac um you know uh who else william burroughs

02:07:43.100 burroughs that's right kowski kind of gets lumped in there a little bit yeah does ginsburg land there

02:07:47.140 was i totally okay no ginsburg is there too so so like i used to think beat meant like like the

02:07:54.800 the beat of like i don't know a congo or some shit you know they would all wear turtlenecks and like

02:07:59.460 have drum circles or there's jazz but what i read is it means defeated we're beat we've already

02:08:07.500 been beat we lost it's over we beat we're not trying to win anymore and they're in that place

02:08:15.760 being beat that's where you find freedom that's where you find true liberation you're you've

02:08:22.260 disconnected from the fucking horrible drums that drive the ship of capitalism

02:08:28.620 it doesn't mean you're they're obviously not failing they're writing beautiful i mean kerouac

02:08:33.760 wrote on the road apparently and what what was it one night two nights on speed wow he took just like

02:08:39.840 in those days i don't know what kind of speed they had it was like on paper strips or something

02:08:44.580 so he just got blasted on speed writes one of the great american road novels in a couple of nights

02:08:51.240 it's fucking infuriating man so it's not like they were like we're beat taking bong hits doing

02:08:56.980 ketamine playing god of war it's like that's the worst experience no but that's yeah you know what

02:09:05.640 i mean so it's but but that state of consciousness of like yeah like i'm already i think we're another

02:09:12.380 way to put it would be at least we're beat in the sense you're not going to do better than the universe

02:09:17.040 than the earth you're not going to like do right there's yeah yeah you're not fighting this

02:09:22.740 invisible that you're not in this battle that you cannot really win you're kind of like accepting

02:09:30.300 that hey this is where things are yeah let me operate from a place of i am not the king yes and

02:09:37.980 it's such a wonderful thing to stop trying to save the fucking planet it's such a wonderful thing

02:09:45.680 to stop trying to be because you the ego is so deceptive that it will convince you that you are

02:09:53.220 demonstrating some altruistic impulse yes when really you want to be the goddamn messiah you want

02:09:59.480 to be jesus you want to like save the you want to be the only person who saves the planet you want

02:10:05.960 the credit person you know what i mean yeah yeah yeah that's real scary man yeah i've noticed there

02:10:12.500 were moments like that i remember a few years ago whenever i started to get like uh just people would

02:10:16.980 come out to my shows and stuff i started thinking oh does god have some special plan for me you know

02:10:22.920 like and that was very scary to me i just didn't know and i was like what if i'm not doing things

02:10:28.320 right or like what if i can't handle this type of if i just had never had like um you know it's scary

02:10:37.880 when people come to spend time with you know it's like why me you know you start asking and then your

02:10:43.220 ego will start answering sometimes if you're not fucking you know if you don't have some inkling or

02:10:48.560 some guidance or hearing good things from people that are helping you navigate things um sure but i

02:10:55.240 remember that i remember thinking man i i'm not going to be able to be a leader you know so this is

02:11:02.260 real scary now i'm going to have how do i pretend to be a leader you know and then that eventually

02:11:08.420 kind of went away and i realized that that was a fool's gold thing but sure it was very scary i

02:11:13.440 remember when that happened i was like fuck like but to think that yeah like i'm just a part of this

02:11:20.260 thing and and we've all we're all defeated how do we operate now right what now like now and and i'll

02:11:28.020 tell you man if you look at the like like the messiah or god is being like you look at the

02:11:34.700 messiah as being not a uh the the next messiah the second coming of christ whatever you want to call

02:11:39.700 it the matreya if you look at it not as being one person but rather a harmonized uh group of god

02:11:48.960 knows how many people or just think about jesus like i don't know how many people talk about like

02:11:54.000 jesus is like or think of mary who is mary's great-grandfather right like mary's great-grandfather

02:12:03.580 if mary the verse i mean forgive me if this seems vulgar i don't mean to be offensive but

02:12:08.160 okay you know what i'll replace messiahs think of like the buddha's great grandmother like imagine if

02:12:15.440 that great-grandmother decided not to let someone ejaculate inside of her just the exact right

02:12:23.560 time and hadn't raised that you kid in a certain way there would be no buddha so it's like when you

02:12:31.460 start looking at the fact that like we are all part of not just like the shitty things the planet spits

02:12:37.060 out but theoretically you could be wouldn't you like to be one pixel in the the buddha one pixel one

02:12:47.040 one little tiny part of whatever the next thing is that like just shakes the planet to its foundations

02:12:54.040 in the positive i would yeah that's enough that would be cool you want to be the whole fucking

02:12:59.060 thing that's insane that's the ego it's like you won't you you know there's a story ramdas's brother

02:13:04.880 i guess that's great man that's a great way to say that that's a great way to say that like how can i

02:13:09.480 just be a cell in the wellness of whatever you know or how do i just show up enough to be a part of

02:13:16.820 things in a positive way you know and trust that you are right then you get to have that thing that

02:13:24.280 your ego is looking for but in a much more realistic in a much more interactive way like now you you

02:13:32.660 don't and and you know all the great stories i mean god look at what jesus said when he sent out the

02:13:37.340 disciples i think it was something something along the lines of don't worry what you're going to say

02:13:41.080 i'm going to speak through you and if people don't accept you shake the dust from your sandals and just

02:13:47.360 that's just leave no big deal just for you don't have to worry that's that's what i love about

02:13:54.180 christianity is that you don't have to worry anymore like you're taking care of now you you don't need

02:14:00.380 to worry you don't have to and so yeah i think like you know from that perspective you don't have to

02:14:06.140 like plan yeah what the fuck you're gonna do to become wadib or whatever and have like a

02:14:13.360 legions of people worshiping you as you drive some like you know what i mean whatever the fuck it is

02:14:20.100 corvette or whatever probably a t-bird maybe yeah yeah you don't have to yeah that's one cool thing

02:14:26.560 that's nice about i mean i go to 12 step i go to recovery programs and so that's what one of the

02:14:30.460 coolest things i feel is when i'm in those rooms and it's like people are listening to each other

02:14:35.380 and everybody's there for the goodness of one another yeah there's a feeling i leave out of

02:14:40.160 there with like man i'm a part of something that feels good you know and it doesn't feel like it's

02:14:44.920 about me it feels like just a part of something that feels good and i think everybody like i think

02:14:50.800 there's a general i think as a society we're like have we i wonder if we'll look back on our society

02:14:57.680 like if thousands of years from now they'll look back and like man what a wrong turn that we

02:15:02.200 because we're just this ship in the water that's all humanity is like and man we took such a we

02:15:09.160 learned a ton but what a turn that was going along those ways of of uh thinking that we had all the

02:15:16.200 answers and that science was going to lead us to the to the be all end all and that we were going to

02:15:21.860 be able to crack the code like what a what a exhilarating and exhausting fucking experiment

02:15:28.760 that was yeah right let's just you know well i mean i think that i love the parable of the prodigal

02:15:35.260 son it's so good for humanity it's not just good for an individual life you know the prodigal son story

02:15:41.480 synopsis there's a dad there's a kid there's a i'm sorry basically there's two brothers one of

02:15:54.680 them decides to stay at his father's house and help with the farm essentially and the other is like i'm

02:16:01.120 out of here and leaves and just goes on this like hedonistic voyage through life prostitutes

02:16:10.760 blows all his fucking money ends up brad pitt was it was brad pitt in it it's not a

02:16:16.600 it's a parable for the bible but it would be an amazing brad pitt movie a beautiful man but the the

02:16:25.560 essentially this kid ruins his life he becomes some kind like a pig farmer which apparently back

02:16:32.900 then was like the worst thing you could be and so in shame and humiliation he realizes i'm gonna have

02:16:40.400 to move back in with my dad like all the shit i said about how i was gonna be a famous break

02:16:46.180 dancer or whatever bullshit he was saying it didn't happen and

02:16:50.700 which also let me tell you this if you're telling your dad you're gonna be a famous break dancer

02:16:58.760 nine out of nine times you're probably not gonna i don't know the statistics on it but it's gotta be

02:17:08.240 worse than famous comedian it's gotta be much more improbable so yeah basically the story is

02:17:14.960 he he goes back home and his dad takes one look at him and he's he's like legitimately like i fucked up

02:17:25.940 i let my ego take control i thought i was gonna be able to do the caterpillar and moonwalk or whatever

02:17:32.000 the fuck and i suck at dancing body rolls and all that body rolls and what i love about at least the

02:17:37.800 version of i read is before he can finish the apology his father embraces it before he can even

02:17:44.700 finish the apology and says like let's throw a huge party we're gonna throw this massive celebration

02:17:51.940 meanwhile the other brother is out in the fucking field and like realizes what's happening he's like

02:17:58.940 how come you never throw a party for fucking me i didn't go try to become a break dancer i didn't

02:18:04.660 buy embarrassing parachute fucking pants and crypto and dude start by fucking nft ai company

02:18:11.040 or try to like use that ai to sell my stickers on fucking etsy what the fuck i've been out here with

02:18:17.060 the oxen what happened well his his father says um to the son like you know we're celebrating you've

02:18:36.120 been here you've been a lot you're alive you've been here we're celebrating because that which was dead

02:18:41.420 has come back to life that's the celebration he my son was gone lost dead now that now he's back this

02:18:48.440 is the joy so what you're talking about with the in any individual life especially like when you finally

02:18:53.840 get into a 12-step program you break that addiction dude and you look at your life when you were tanking

02:18:59.560 your fucking life on blow and booze and you look at how you weren't even there you weren't even there

02:19:05.160 you were dead you didn't exist if you look back you were blacking out you were fucked up

02:19:10.140 you weren't there it was a way in the very best a waking dream and you can't remember a lot of that

02:19:16.100 shit and then suddenly holy shit you start coming back to life that's what it's about for the

02:19:21.640 individual but for what you're saying is like for humanity as a whole i think that's what's so

02:19:26.100 beautiful about it is there's the possibility for the entirety of the species to reorient itself

02:19:31.900 into another way of being and and and at least because you know it's obvious in the bible it's theistic

02:19:38.420 the message is god doesn't care how much money you spent on the stupid break dancer clothes you

02:19:47.160 were wearing or your failed etsy business or all the people you lied to or all the people you stabbed

02:19:52.160 in the back as long as those things brought you back home that's all that matters as long as you're

02:19:59.100 able to come and say i'm sorry and mean it that's what i love about that story and i think like that's

02:20:04.900 what humanity has to look forward to probably i do i think yeah maybe we did right now we're like

02:20:10.320 fucking scooping up pig shit or whatever and pretending it's gold but i have a feeling like

02:20:16.700 you know we'll come back around we'll come back around yeah if a person can come back around

02:20:21.640 all of us can come back yeah because all we are is just a person really we're all just one person

02:20:26.860 like you're saying you're right man just one very complex very very big person yeah and you have to

02:20:34.900 and yeah you have to start thinking how do we all win as a speed like how what little part can i do to

02:20:40.940 help us be a part of that or not even what can i do but how do i just operate in a way that uh

02:20:48.480 behooves everyone and how can i do that more today yeah that's it that's a nice question to have

02:20:54.700 each day each day how can i do that more today for my fellow man yeah for my fellow species member

02:21:01.040 yeah um it's a good question and sometimes you will not be able to answer it no

02:21:05.740 yeah sometimes you'll go you'll and you'll you'll slink back off and but i think having that that is

02:21:13.800 like a uh as a good question is nice and that's a neat thing about life is sometimes once certain

02:21:20.960 things get introduced to you you can't unintroduce them you know yeah and that's one thing that's

02:21:26.760 really cool it's like man once you kind of see a little bit of the light you can't unsee it you

02:21:33.960 know no that's one thing that's neat about getting into recovery programs even like you were saying

02:21:38.380 like you were dead like once you can look back and see that like oh i wasn't a contributing member

02:21:42.820 to myself yeah to anyone i wasn't able to love my sister i wasn't able to love my brother i wasn't able

02:21:49.220 to love myself and like how you can start to you know do those do those things better yeah man and

02:21:56.540 being a you know uh the times i've been in those rooms when you it's what's cool about it is you see

02:22:02.800 people who like you thought you hit bottom like you see people who like fucking they did the same

02:22:11.620 thing china's doing right now we're like they're trying to dig a hole to the center of the earth

02:22:15.380 you're like are you kidding me what the fuck you know the stories are crazy but then the fact that

02:22:23.620 you're looking at them they're healthy they're they're happy they're doing great that is where

02:22:31.600 you realize how incredibly powerful it is to be a human yes because they sure as fuck shouldn't

02:22:36.480 have climbed out of that hole yeah some of those holes man you know what i'm talking about there's

02:22:41.040 seven yeah there's seven story holes dude eight stories 12 stories like how did you get a hole this

02:22:46.680 deep how did you even do it yeah you didn't have a shovel like if i told someone i'm gonna pay you

02:22:53.060 i will pay you five hundred thousand dollars to destroy your life in this way they wouldn't be able

02:22:58.600 to do it and these people did it just with whiskey and like inhalants yeah it's like

02:23:05.860 oh that's fucking cool man what uh what time we at that um like two hour 20 minutes i'm like a little

02:23:17.040 under okay um trying to think of something else i wanted to think about with you

02:23:23.360 you were talking about sex in a graveyard i can actually chime in on that i worked with a guy in

02:23:31.000 a pizza shop who uh this is a true story i delivered pizzas with this guy steve and he would

02:23:36.380 take his wife they had kids they would hire a sitter every saturday and they would go

02:23:39.960 have sex in a graveyard are you fucking kidding me yeah yeah his wife's name was angel she was 390

02:23:45.740 pounds what and were they mexican because a lot of mexicans they weren't no white trash ohio

02:23:51.240 a lot of mexicans go that's one thing i love that mexicans do they do that el dia de los muertos

02:23:57.000 and they go celebrate in the graveyard with the deceased mexicans it's a big part of the culture

02:24:03.260 like if you're in la you can go on halloween to the graveyards and it is like you know it's like a

02:24:09.220 damn selena you know like concert the hollywood forever cemetery has it's incredible it's awesome

02:24:15.800 it's beautiful and it's not you expect it to be like morbid or grim but it isn't at all it's

02:24:21.780 celebratory it's beautiful you can see how they're honoring these people it's really incredible yeah

02:24:27.200 i mean you can eat an empanada with a 700 year old mexican dude yes yeah you can oh yeah the

02:24:35.960 ramones are buried there that's right that cemetery is pretty wild it is it's and they that's where i

02:24:41.500 don't know if they do it anymore but they used to do movies there like on the weekends i think they

02:24:46.180 still do i actually went with james blake he's a musician he's been on here before he's a really

02:24:51.020 really amazing british producer and musician and he um he and i went to el dia de los muertos one time

02:24:59.200 and they had music and they had yeah just mexican families just sitting with their deceased ancestors

02:25:05.040 yeah it's really sweet i mean it's so so sophisticated like the way a lot of people do

02:25:11.820 death is really like fucked up you try not to think about it you just try like someone dies and you know

02:25:18.460 you just try to put them out of your head i mean i've attended and they don't and they don't really

02:25:22.660 disappear it's funny because i can think about my father right and i can think about how he feels how

02:25:28.340 is i can think about what he wears i can think about his voice is alive inside of my head and in

02:25:36.420 my heart i can feel it i can um i can put my hand on my heart and it's his heartbeat like part of my

02:25:44.260 the beat of my heart was made by two other people's beats it's a mute it's a fucking song yeah that's inside

02:25:52.060 of me that was created by you know so it's really we really do do that poorly i think in in uh

02:25:59.560 or i've done that poorly in my life is honoring um the deceased you know honoring the people that

02:26:08.940 put their time in so i could exist you know maybe part of the problem is it's so bizarre when you lose

02:26:16.580 someone when you realize somehow even though their bodies aren't here they're closer than they've ever

02:26:21.300 been to you like you have this sense no they're here i mean not like a ghost paranormal way but

02:26:26.300 like something deeper than that just like what you're saying and you don't you it's hard for

02:26:32.120 people to deal with that it's almost heartbreaking in a way or you're afraid to connect with them you

02:26:38.280 have a sense anytime you do they've just been waiting for you to reach out oh that's interesting

02:26:43.100 it's almost ashamed there's a little bit of shame if i were to sit and really just go spend time

02:26:49.280 like in a room or in an open field and tell my father i wanted to talk to him or spend time with

02:26:54.500 him part of me would feel a shame that it took me so long to do it yeah yeah and you know what i've

02:27:00.360 when i've like presented that shame to like my mom's soul or whatever you want to call that

02:27:09.120 the response is always i love you yeah they don't there's no like why didn't you fucking

02:27:16.460 yeah use ayahuasca to talk to me you you know it's just a sense of like i love you so much enjoy your

02:27:24.180 life enjoy your life you're doing great i love you it's this place is for love nothing else that's

02:27:31.700 always been the the the sort of the message you know i i it's i they don't seem to even see

02:27:40.980 shame or right on the i think whatever it is why were you watching dateline they're never like that

02:27:46.280 why why why the fuck were you obsessed with keith morrison yeah why did you work for a week to try

02:27:54.540 to do a keith morrison impression that you could never pull off yeah but what about that avocado

02:28:02.300 not bad thank you not bad yeah man it's just yeah it's right why'd you go to that duran duran

02:28:09.380 concert the other night yeah they're not they just it's it's like i think whatever is on the other

02:28:14.540 side as they call it is so beautiful you know ramda says it's like taking off a shoe that's too tight

02:28:19.880 it's death death is like taking off a shoe that's too tight whatever's over there is so so beautiful

02:28:25.880 and so much more real than this place that beings that are there they are they just want us to be

02:28:36.820 happy they are just love you know and also you know as a parent like if my kid somehow reaches

02:28:43.660 through the veil to communicate with me after i'm dead i'm not gonna be like look at your

02:28:50.200 fucking shitty shirt why do you have gravy all over your shirt change your oil you're not gonna be

02:28:57.020 yelling that change your oil boy i taught you to do that i taught you you're gonna burn your engine out

02:29:04.120 it's easy i bought you that fucking car with the inheritance yeah dude you're it's like they just love

02:29:13.180 that's that's it that's it that's a fundamental fabric of everything is that kind of energy

02:29:18.780 yeah and you're right the darkness part is it's like you know turning on a light you just turn on

02:29:24.840 the light that's all it is man it's like the darkness is really the weakest of things when you

02:29:30.000 consider how it's so you just flip a light switch light a candle it's gone yeah wasn't really there

02:29:36.520 and you usually need other people to do it you need yeah that's why isolation kills so many

02:29:42.740 alcoholics and so many addicts what's why isolation kill creates so many school shooters and yeah

02:29:49.140 like severe like uh did uh violent nihilists i don't know what nihilist means yeah you yeah you nihilism

02:29:57.200 the the the the the idea that all you are is atoms i mean if you want to take to the furthest point

02:30:05.920 it's like this is this is essentially an accident big bang happens and just just by like time and

02:30:15.400 molecules swirling together we became what did you call it reactive we became reactive meat earlier on

02:30:25.260 you had a really nihilistic description of human human beings we're just temporarily sentient we are

02:30:31.720 doomed to die we didn't ask to be fucking born and here we are mortals in a universe of infinite

02:30:40.140 atoms but whatever we are it's just a fucking accident like just a a bad collision between the

02:30:47.220 wrong organic molecules a long time ago and some oxygen and some fucking oxygen and fuck it and then

02:30:55.640 do you believe that's true or not no i don't believe that's true at all my experience of life

02:31:00.980 is the opposite of that and it's interesting because i feel like we've created a society kind

02:31:06.080 of in the u and america where if you're not careful you can kind of you can get lapped in and believe in

02:31:11.800 that we have a society that really you know we sat we've created a that a lot of things that mean a

02:31:18.300 lot to us or that should or really just um wears for sale yeah or that um even our important moments

02:31:27.560 or i don't know i feel like we there's been some deviation but i think there's like you're saying

02:31:32.280 there's there's a lot if you cannot see that if you can find other people and listen if you can just

02:31:39.140 be open to possibility it's you can quickly get back to a place that feels good yes because that's what

02:31:46.040 you actually are right the place that feels good is you right fundamental goodness there's that's you

02:31:50.920 that's ground level whatever you want to call it bedrock yeah the bedrock and everything else is just

02:31:56.680 defense mechanisms and yeah and yeah exactly you'll know when you're there because you're already the

02:32:03.140 paradox is you're already there and it's just like the so many comparisons uh it's like a lantern

02:32:11.480 that's got a lot of like dirt or dust on it you know what i mean your your soul is the light the

02:32:20.600 lantern is your countless incarnations and once you clear away the dust boom there you are again and

02:32:26.900 that's the weird i don't know if you had it with ayahuasca but with dmt that's that weird familiarity

02:32:31.740 people report which i certainly experienced where you're like oh i know this place there was nothing

02:32:38.700 to be afraid of this is just a place of love and joy and delight and fuck i've been so hard on

02:32:45.540 myself yeah i was a cockroach for 50 incarnations just like you said earlier what was i do what was

02:32:55.660 i doing beating myself up yeah i'm doing great i'm doing great yeah and and truly if you're a human

02:33:02.100 at least from the buddhist perspective it's the rarity of the human incarnation from the buddhist

02:33:09.140 cosmology like they think there's more gods than there are humans that if you are lucky enough to

02:33:14.280 be born a human you've really you probably weren't a cockroach like you have done some heavy lifting to

02:33:20.820 land in the human realm and especially you know there's a weird kind of like multiverse aspect of

02:33:27.380 buddhism a lot of people don't know about but to be born in a realm where there was a buddha

02:33:31.780 where there was a jesus i mean you pick your messiah where because there's there's the possibility of

02:33:37.260 being born in a time when nobody had any kind of spiritual technology developed so to be in a in a

02:33:44.540 world where that we have like volumes volumes of like incredible spiritual technology that anytime you

02:33:52.140 want you can connect to is very good karma very good it's a great point it's very good fortune

02:33:57.960 do you think if a if they if they proved aliens if there was some proof for them

02:34:02.260 like and obviously if there was some further proof that really set in everybody like everybody it was

02:34:07.560 like you know was like wow they're there they're out there with what would that do to religion do you

02:34:18.080 think that would strengthen it or do you think that would weaken it well i mean i you know i think it

02:34:23.620 depends on the religion and the lineage of the religion i mean if you've been living in a religion

02:34:29.280 that is doing the same thing for humanity that we used to do for planet earth the earth was the center

02:34:34.400 of the universe if you've been living in some mindset that humanity is the you know the sum total of

02:34:41.240 or like the the final part of god's creation or something then yeah it's gonna fuck with your head

02:34:48.540 because now you have to deal with the fact that no there's the universe is teeming with life on every

02:34:54.040 level from the subatomic to the like to to to giant planets to god knows what to the point where we might

02:35:02.820 be some atomic portion of something we'll never understand so yeah but i think you know a lot of

02:35:10.380 religions already have built in the idea that we're talking about the source of all reality a kind of

02:35:17.340 super intelligent progenitive uh benevolent creator force that just delights in making stuff and delights

02:35:28.640 in like sharing its creation with the things it makes that we get to co-create with it it invites us to

02:35:36.560 like sit down at the potter's wheel with it and make stuff while we're here so it's a really wonderful

02:35:42.440 artist whoever it is whatever it is and it's the best kind of artist it doesn't like where are the

02:35:48.140 there's no signatures there's no copyright there's no ip it's claiming for the sum total of all things

02:35:54.720 it's that incredible it's it's like banksy nobody knows who banksy is it's like that it's just like

02:36:03.040 here have it all i'm giving you all of it let's see what you do with it yeah it's beautiful so

02:36:09.840 i think from that perspective aliens sure why not and what if aliens they also had a god too what if

02:36:16.200 they rolled up with a couple gods we did we would figure it out well yeah that would that's where it

02:36:20.720 would that's what that's what would be so exciting it's like what what do they believe who are you

02:36:25.240 worshiping who is your god what is an alien god like and what do they think of our idea of god or

02:36:31.280 they're what if they're like all like richard fucking dawkins and they're pissed at us like

02:36:35.560 there's no god you dumb shit we made you we're your fucking god look at his big black eyes emotionless

02:36:44.080 face we made you you just hallucinated all the other stuff because we built that into you

02:36:50.420 to like believe in a god because that makes you easy to control we would beat them up then

02:36:56.020 we would oh dude i think we would i think we would fight to have a god the first alien human

02:37:03.600 world star fight like when a human finally just punches an alien it's weird to think our kids might

02:37:11.360 see that man it's weird to think that we might see but i don't think there's a lot of beef between

02:37:18.880 black i have some black friends and they said there's a lot of beef between like blacks and aliens too

02:37:23.300 what yeah that's like we don't hear about because we're not you know i guess in that culture that

02:37:28.960 much but yeah there's a lot of like black alien what yeah they don't get along i guess or they don't

02:37:37.600 yeah they don't get along that much i mean how many black dudes you even know were like yeah

02:37:42.100 who have like alien posters or anything like that you know i mean i i honestly i don't know anyone who has

02:37:47.880 alien posters but like i do know black people who are like super into aliens i but maybe oh maybe i

02:37:54.280 gotta meet more black folks then you know maybe who knows it's like i i don't know i mean i get i

02:38:00.680 know there's a lot of people who like or think they're demons i mean that's one of the threads of

02:38:06.260 uh of of of like that's one of the explanations for them is it's like no these are the legions of

02:38:13.880 satan coming to the earth to pose as aliens and trick us into getting on those fucking ships

02:38:21.860 don't get on the ships don't get on the ships because they're gonna fly you right to hell

02:38:27.400 motherfucker don't get on the ship i'm gonna want to go look at least on there i bet well yeah of

02:38:33.600 course me too we will get on the ships but i'm gonna say hey tell me before y'all leave

02:38:38.540 no dude you will get on the ship for sure i guarantee you'll get on the ship i guarantee

02:38:43.040 it we'll probably be podcasting on a spaceship at some point

02:38:46.060 i mean maybe that is what we're on who knows maybe that's part of it they get you on the ship

02:38:52.520 they make you forget you're on a ship they trick you into thinking you're in the human dimension

02:38:56.780 we're just in some cargo bay right now plugged into the matrix baby

02:39:02.080 that's awesome man uh duncan thanks so much for your time dude anytime theo this is such a

02:39:12.660 so funny yeah so fun man so fun to see you again and um yeah we should probably just do one to follow

02:39:18.420 up this one i think people will love this this has been one of my favorite chats in a while man

02:39:21.860 dude mine too thank you theo i really think you're wonderful and thank you so much for having me on

02:39:26.640 your show it means the world thank you yeah 100 man i want to do it again soon and uh

02:39:31.640 and we'll do yours yeah we can assume it from wherever or come back in town wonderful yeah

02:39:35.680 i'll i'll hit you up do you ever do them live um i'm you know i'm building a podcast studio right now

02:39:43.660 but it's slow going you can talk to this company or two they're really good you know i'm i'm tempted

02:39:48.780 to honestly because i've been trying to do it at home and i'm just wondering if that's like a little

02:39:53.540 bit of like kind of what we were talking about earlier like you got to shed that that skin like why

02:39:58.580 do you want to do it at home what are you doing like why not expand do it like you're doing this

02:40:03.140 is one of the things like you segura rogan it's like you know you guys are real trendsetters you're

02:40:08.640 really leading the charge as far as like creating your own tv show basically and like making it look

02:40:14.300 good having a nice studio and stuff and i don't know it just takes so much work yeah well this i just i

02:40:19.660 just started working with this company called rooster teeth and they've been awesome man it's been good

02:40:23.440 it's been really just interesting um and i'm glad that they've been supportive but yeah it is

02:40:29.480 i think you know there's something nice about having it at home it feels homey but i think you feel homey

02:40:36.060 no matter what no matter where you would be yeah you know sometimes i used to get i started in my

02:40:41.560 kitchen and i was like oh if i ever leave my kitchen something will be wrong i won't be able to

02:40:45.760 communicate correctly or something um that's how i feel yeah like i'm gonna lose

02:40:51.120 like the vibe of like this is my garage like this is my gritty podcast studio oh yeah and it's like

02:41:00.480 that's so dumb like why do i like i want to i want to expand it's just geez man well we need your voice

02:41:07.240 out there i think thanks man it's really good to hear i've been really i feel much better than when i

02:41:12.400 came in today same i feel more inspired um i feel yeah like i can do better when i communicate with

02:41:21.460 people um it's just a really nice reminder uh you are a nice reminder of how to operate in the world

02:41:27.940 thank you theo hey man we don't have to podcast you can hit me up anytime you want if you just want

02:41:32.800 to shoot the shit i love talking to you and i would be thrilled so thanks man thanks for having me on

02:41:39.400 the show yeah we'll do it again soon beautiful duncan trussell ladies and gentlemen

02:41:43.080 now i'm just floating on the breeze and i feel i'm falling like these leaves i must be cornerstone

02:41:54.640 oh but when i reach that ground i'll share this peace of mind i found i can feel it

02:42:03.460 in my bones but it's gonna take

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This Past Weekend with Theo Von - June 20, 2023

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