This Past Weekend with Theo Von - E471 Wayne Gretzky

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00:01:04.000 and um and a legend just in in humanity in human history it's a name that's synonymous uh with being

00:01:12.720 victorious he's a four-time stanley cup winner he has more records than um than sun studios this guy has

00:01:20.240 more records in hockey than anyone you can catch him on the tnt nhl panel uh i'm so thankful to spend time

00:01:29.520 time with him today mr wayne gretzky

00:01:41.200 who's your accent yeah i'm from louisiana

00:02:02.880 man it's pretty good we didn't ever had we had a team i think it was the algae or something i don't

00:02:09.360 know what our it was at the east coast league probably yeah we yeah it was like are the mud birds

00:02:14.800 or something some team it's burns yeah it was definitely like even the mascot sounded like it

00:02:20.640 wasn't going to survive you know it was like i think it was the um that's funny i think it was the

00:02:27.040 mascot got traded i think it was the oil spill pigeons or something like because there was we

00:02:33.040 had a lot of issues down there that was very funny so i think our mascot was uh yeah it was bad the

00:02:41.200 mascot always had bandages on and stuff i remember they break it was just it didn't do well no timing

00:02:47.680 probably wasn't great it's kind of grown now like there's a team here in atlanta that does pretty

00:02:54.000 well like it's like comparable to double a in baseball it's not triple a and they do pretty

00:03:02.080 good here they're and they're talking about bringing another nhl team to atlanta no way

00:03:08.480 be the third time in 40 years but yeah they tried it twice i know over the over the over the history of

00:03:14.240 time and do you know like yeah why doesn't it succeed you think in certain markets is it just not

00:03:19.360 the is it well does it just take people to be there or does it take something special to be in

00:03:25.600 a market for hockey to survive it's a little bit of both because we don't have you know we don't have

00:03:33.280 like baseball and football it's been in the south and the southwest forever right oh yeah hockey's just

00:03:39.840 kind of getting there so back in the 70s when the flames first came in the expansion rules were

00:03:45.360 different the owners wanted the money the league wanted the money but they gave you the worst teams

00:03:50.640 so they would go five six seven years and go well it's not a hockey city well people get tired of

00:03:56.720 paying to watch a team lose right yeah so then they came back again it was kind of the same expansion

00:04:01.840 rules and it failed again the everyone who got wiser and when vegas came in they got the ninth best

00:04:09.520 player on every team they got low draft picks and they built the foundation and people got excited look

00:04:15.120 our team's good seattle got the same sort of thing as atlanta or as vegas if atlanta gets another team

00:04:22.480 they're going to get that advantage again that's a good treatment yeah they're going to get good

00:04:26.480 treatment and maybe this will become a good hockey city because people are saying jesus we're winning

00:04:31.280 and let's go to the games yeah so it's not fair to people of atlanta their teams were so bad you just

00:04:37.520 say i'm not paying anymore yeah at a certain point you can't yeah you can't go and be really supporting

00:04:43.280 some of the teams i think in the south well the south is also kind of religious there's more

00:04:47.600 religion there you know and the only person we've ever seen even kind of or the only person that

00:04:52.640 people believe like behaves like or gets wild on water is the jesus really so i think the second you

00:04:58.560 see a guy saying hey look what i'm gonna do out here on this frozen lake i think it makes you wonder

00:05:03.680 what's going on here well in canada we call our arenas churches oh yeah really you know in canada

00:05:12.160 it's hockey and religion those are the two biggest things right so you can be you know sports is very

00:05:18.320 popular in our country football canadian football baseball the blue jays do well the raptors have done

00:05:24.320 really well so it's kind of canada's team the raptors and the blue jays yeah but hockey is everywhere

00:05:30.640 right so you can be driving in your car in july and if you're listening to talk radio it's still 90

00:05:38.240 hockey that they're talking about right july and august because you can still do it and it's so

00:05:42.720 popular right oh yeah people love it people i think it's unbelievable yeah it's you know like down down

00:05:49.120 in the u.s i always encourage parents to tell their kids play every sport tennis baseball football basketball

00:05:56.240 soccer uh field lacrosse and they're all so big and if you sat down here you would say okay

00:06:02.960 baseball is probably the most popular sport or no it's basketball is the biggest sport yeah and then

00:06:08.080 you're like well football is pretty big but in canada there's no definition it's one it's one it's

00:06:13.280 ice hockey that's it yeah i think i'm trying to think of why we never uh yeah i think yeah up there if

00:06:19.840 everything's frozen you it you know yeah well we got a big advantage because you got free ice yeah

00:06:26.640 you got free ice right you know it's a big thing you know oh yeah this is i think 18 dollars a bag

00:06:31.040 where i'm from yeah it's it's ice is expensive and you know parents a lot of parents it's hard for them

00:06:37.600 to afford hockey equipment ice skates uh paying for ice time but in canada most of the places you can

00:06:45.200 play i grew up in southern ontario which is uh basically between niagara falls new york and uh

00:06:54.320 detroit oh yeah that's i mean that's the third shelf of the freezer section buddy that's it gets

00:06:59.040 pretty chilly yeah so we had an ice rink in my backyard from the time i was yeah yeah i saw i saw some

00:07:03.840 lore about that yeah so my dad would go and he would buy a sprinkler head in december which they

00:07:11.280 always thought he was crazy who's buying a sprinkler head christmas time anyway and he would put it out

00:07:17.920 in the middle of the ice and he would let it go back and forth for like two hours and then go move

00:07:22.240 it another part of the ice and his ice was always about this thick and it would last till probably the

00:07:28.880 end of march did he lay a good rank oh he had the best really yeah and he was funny people used to

00:07:34.720 stop by the house and say how does walter get his grass so green what do you do what are you putting

00:07:39.920 in your grass my dad didn't do anything it was just probably from the ice being so

00:07:45.200 good for the the grass he always had the greenest grass in the neighborhood and didn't do anything

00:07:52.880 that's pretty classic man yeah we had some uneven areas i remember i played baseball i mean i didn't

00:07:58.480 i don't know if i was you know mom signed me up a couple seasons man and it wasn't great for me but

00:08:03.840 um our field was uneven we had an uneven field yeah so every ball if you hit anything second base it

00:08:10.960 was all ended up in right field right we probably had 25 gradient on the field yeah so we had at

00:08:16.560 least two right fielders always at least well that's that's probably now listen i grew up loving

00:08:22.000 baseball i went and saw my grandson play the other day he had his hat on backwards i think he was

00:08:26.640 picking dandelions always yeah oh yeah it's always that kid out there who ends up doing being a

00:08:31.440 gardener or something yeah and then i took him to we went to watch him play ice hockey the next day

00:08:36.720 and they're out there sweating and skating for an hour loving it yeah and they got to figure out a way

00:08:40.880 to get these kids more enthusiastic about baseball because it's not a lot of fun for some of them who

00:08:46.080 are standing out in the outfield yeah i think and i think that's one of the reasons made i don't know

00:08:49.840 if baseball is i guess it's always america's sport because there's something rooted in tradition about

00:08:55.840 it there's something i mean you give an american a hot dog they'll sit there and do anything for

00:09:00.160 a little while you know but i think it's true yeah it's and i you know i do it if somebody's like

00:09:06.880 and the history of the game you know the history of baseball from babe ruth what he did to what

00:09:11.760 jackie robinson right for everyone right there's so much history and let's face it it's economically

00:09:18.480 easier to buy a pair of shoes and a baseball glove than to have to buy a whole entire hockey equipment

00:09:25.360 sort of yeah to set that up in certain parts right and then in other parts it's the other

00:09:29.840 way around you know like it would be tougher to like heat a basketball court in the winter in canada

00:09:35.440 so that people have the opportunity to be there and play as much yeah we don't you know although

00:09:40.800 the raptors have really found a niche in our country yeah like they're huge yeah people love

00:09:45.600 them i was in your country when they won the championship yeah and i wasn't in vancouver but

00:09:49.360 people were like oh yeah beating each other and hugging each other at the same time so like

00:09:54.320 in our country like you're in vancouver you're canucks fan and you're in alberta either flames

00:09:59.360 oilers and all the way across right but if you're in vancouver newfoundland you're a blue jays fan

00:10:04.800 or a raptors fan it's just it's canada's team and they just all cling to it yeah it's something

00:10:09.840 pretty special about it and i always see when guys get traded up there more basketball than baseball

00:10:14.800 and guys well i don't want to play in canada i want to stay in my own country but the guys who

00:10:18.960 go there will tell you they get treated phenomenally it's a great city to live in it's a great country

00:10:23.600 and people are nice okay people's always so nice in canada even if somebody was angry they may i bet

00:10:29.760 they would they'd come across the street and they'd just say hey i'm angry but but i'm sorry yeah you

00:10:35.280 know there's a lot of stories yeah yeah they're just too kind well i noticed even like you know i grew

00:10:40.000 up in the south there's a lot of like i don't know if there's still as much but especially when i was

00:10:43.760 growing up there was like more racial disparity down there you know because there's a lot of

00:10:46.960 history of like black and white racism down there and um and when i was in canada i don't feel that

00:10:52.880 energy i i don't everybody seems the same it's like i often say that to people that

00:10:59.040 we just we don't seem to have racism in our country people all seem to get along yeah you know and it's

00:11:05.760 that's why people always come up to me and they say you're from canada right and i just say yeah

00:11:10.320 they're like canadians are all so nice and i go yeah i think they are and i said but you know

00:11:16.320 i got five american kids five american grandchildren and they're all nice kids too so you can meet a

00:11:22.480 lot of nice people in the united states right yeah well i think if you're coming out of that gretzky

00:11:26.240 lineage i think you guys have to see you guys i mean it seemed pretty just like nice folks you know

00:11:31.520 um well they got they had a good mother so yeah you know listen when you're when you're working and

00:11:37.040 playing hockey you know it's hard you know the schedule's tough oh yeah especially playing on

00:11:42.880 the west coast in la and edmonton we're always either playing or in an airplane right so listen

00:11:50.160 i love my kids dearly but it was the mother who was around them the mothers are so so vital it's like

00:11:55.440 my my relationship with my mom and dad was very close my dad was sort of this hockey father of the

00:12:02.240 country you know people loved my dad walter gretzky man but i would always say but it was my mom

00:12:07.760 behind the scenes that kept our family she was a wonderful lady and she always kind of stayed out

00:12:13.120 of the limelight like when i was a kid and i'd play all the parents used to sit sort of together

00:12:17.680 and my mom would sit in the corner by herself so what did she like to do your mom like what were

00:12:23.440 some like when she had time for herself what were some hobbies that she liked because i i mean from

00:12:27.680 what to hear from what it sounds like your dad probably got pretty involved with you once you

00:12:30.880 started playing hockey as much so a lot of people don't know this but i had a down syndrome aunt and

00:12:40.480 she was born in the 50s and back in those days they would take these kids and basically they put

00:12:46.080 them in asylums and medicate them and oh yeah yeah people didn't know what to do so my grandmother

00:12:53.040 said you know i'm not sending her to school so she never went to school day in her life um she was

00:12:59.040 by the end she was a little bit blind she lived till she was 63 and my grandfather was from russia

00:13:05.600 belarus mints russia my grandmother was from ukraine and the kids were born in canada and my grandfather

00:13:14.000 would speak to her in russian my grandmother would speak to her in ukrainian and we all communicated

00:13:18.960 with her in english oh and that'll give anybody down syndrome i feel like and my dad used to always

00:13:23.920 say if you don't believe in the good lord there's a great example right here but so she was trilingual

00:13:28.960 then she could understand but she spoke only english and right if you didn't know her you'd have a

00:13:34.080 hard time understanding her but we grew up with her so we were fine so when my grandmother was passing

00:13:40.240 she said do me one favor don't put her in her home and of course my mother said i'll take care of her

00:13:45.440 so she lived with my parents for at least 12 years i guess and then um uh wow yeah and then you were a

00:13:53.120 child too it was when you were a kid no she so my grandmother would have passed in 88 um and that's

00:14:00.080 when she moved in with my mom and dad so she had her hands full with her own kids grandkids my uh my

00:14:07.920 aunt um if she her enjoyment really was uh friday nights going with her her mom was my grandmother

00:14:15.840 they'd go they loved bingo that was a big thing in our hometown and she could my dad said she could

00:14:21.600 play bingo every night she loved it that much and i used to go how'd you do today i won seven dollars

00:14:28.240 i'm like okay at least you're winning so her life was around our kids and the grandkids but her

00:14:36.480 enjoyment was going to bingo wow so she was kind of she just found a lot of joy in her family and

00:14:41.680 then yeah some simple pleasure sounds like just simple pleasures kind of she was very simple like

00:14:46.240 she was um i'll tell you when i turned pro um i said to my parents i'm gonna buy you a house and

00:14:53.840 my mom and dad said we don't need a house we we're we're fine right here and i so there was a little

00:14:59.600 piece of property it was an acre just down the street from where where i grew up and where they were

00:15:04.640 living so i went and bought it secretly and i took them over there and my mom said what are

00:15:10.560 you doing i said well i'm gonna build you this house here you're gonna something really special

00:15:15.680 she goes no no my house is fine she goes but if you want to do something you can put a pool in her

00:15:20.000 backyard so i put a pool in the backyard and sold my piece of property because they didn't want to move

00:15:25.600 into it and she and they lived there to the very end and when my dad passed uh recently i bought the

00:15:32.640 house and so now it's i own my house oh yeah i was gonna ask actually where what that was like

00:15:38.160 so what's your mom was like now that all that skating's done i want to i'm on a pool back here

00:15:41.600 yeah oh yeah she said your your father's not building the hockey rink anymore i want a swimming

00:15:46.400 pool she loved having the swimming pool in the backyard there is something nice about it isn't

00:15:49.920 yeah and she loved the barbecue i was telling the story you know now they have everything so regimented

00:15:56.560 right so back in back and when you win the stanley cup they have these two guys that travel with the

00:16:03.600 trophy because it's so special like they don't want anything to happen to it and they don't want

00:16:07.520 it to break and so they keep a good eye on it right like kind of like a like a net like a little bit of

00:16:12.800 like a um like um little uh gargoyles kind of like perfect like yeah and they just protect

00:16:19.440 them yeah they just watch it they travel with it like hit men or whatever yeah oh my mom got pissed if we

00:16:24.800 got by our nice dishes yeah so there they are in those days um when i when i won a championship

00:16:33.200 i remember one day was the summertime i was at my folks house my mom was doing a barbecue my both

00:16:38.720 grandmothers were there and i'm sitting there and i said to my dad geez i should just i should get the

00:16:44.960 stanley cup here and get some pictures so i called the hall of fame and i said hey i'm having a barbecue

00:16:49.360 this afternoon can you guys drive down the stanley cup and they said yeah yeah we'll be down in an

00:16:53.520 hour they got in a car put the cup in drove down gave me the cup we took pictures in the backyard

00:16:59.040 and then they took the cup back to the hall of fame now it's all organized right now each guy

00:17:03.360 gets a day with the cup yeah it's all organized and the guys travel with the trophy but back then it

00:17:08.720 was just like hey uh can i have the cup this afternoon they say yeah no problem they bring the

00:17:13.200 cup down yeah so some of the best pictures i have with my grandmother and my mom my dad in the

00:17:17.760 backyard just holding the stanley cup yeah plate of beans in one hand and the other corn oh yeah

00:17:23.280 that was big huh yeah oh wow yeah i can only have so much corn in there i wish i had some beans usually

00:17:29.520 um yeah dude you're like an ice master do you ever realize like you kind of mastered like a

00:17:35.680 or anyway to me it seems like you know like do you ever go to like are you ever at like disney on i

00:17:40.880 ever take your kids to disney on ice and you're just like yeah you know you're like those chipmunks

00:17:45.600 are off sides you know like no like do you have that much of a or when you see an ice maker on a

00:17:51.760 fridge you just growl at it i feel like you just have that no that doesn't happen you're a frozen

00:17:56.640 water master i will tell you this so i said to somebody the other day we were on a lake and they

00:18:02.480 said you want to jump in and it was kind of a cold day i said you know i'm way better when that water's

00:18:07.040 frozen i'm not going in but i did go to disney on ice one time because my friend and neighbor

00:18:12.960 scotty hamilton i went to see the show one time scotty hamilton he's a dancer he was a yeah he

00:18:18.480 was an olympic gold medalist he's olympic gold medalist yeah and then he did your skater yeah

00:18:24.000 so he was really phenomenal figure skater and a wonderful guy right there yeah and a wonderful

00:18:28.640 guy so i think it was either disney on ice or one of those shows and we went to see it and we sat down

00:18:34.160 by the ice and i think the time katarina vitt was in it oh yeah and it was spicy yeah it was pretty

00:18:40.400 phenomenal like what they can do it's so different than ice skating like i think there's a lot of

00:18:45.840 figure skaters that could transfer to ice skating but i don't think there's a lot of ice skaters

00:18:51.600 that could put on figure skates and do well yeah it's a whole different thing they're so athletic

00:18:56.320 i lived with a guy for like probably four months and he was uh i don't know what he was he was pretty

00:19:01.920 tall but he would he was a figure skater and he took us outside one time they had a volkswagen rabbit

00:19:07.280 outside and he ran and jumped over it from one side to the other side that's pretty amazing it

00:19:13.280 was just unbelievable and it was just an afternoon yeah it was just like it just blew my mind man

00:19:18.560 well they're they're you know the training and the techniques that they have because they have to do

00:19:23.280 those turns and they have to get high in the air to be able to do a triple yeah so they probably in the

00:19:28.640 off season they probably do a lot of squat training you know so that when they do get on the ice

00:19:33.440 they're they're much it's much easier oh yeah but yeah they're really they get out there yeah those

00:19:39.440 guys can really can do it i think ice skating is pretty incredible yeah i think we just miss being

00:19:43.760 in the southern part of the u.s we miss all of the lacrosse we miss all of the you know the sports

00:19:49.680 really the the the the uh whatever it's called the difference of sports just changes over you know

00:19:57.120 as you go down south but you know um i was talking earlier about how popular hockey is and

00:20:03.520 it's definitely huge in our country but if you were to go around anywhere and interview people

00:20:10.720 outside of canada and say what is the national sport of canada they'd all say ice hockey or 90

00:20:15.920 of them but it's lacrosse but it's actually lacrosse lacrosse was invented in six nations reserve

00:20:21.840 which is just outside of my hometown of branford so a couple things we're very proud of alexander

00:20:27.520 grain bell made his first phone call from branford my hometown did he really yes who'd he call he

00:20:32.320 called somebody in paris ontario which was like a 15 uh minutes away 15 miles away probably a chick

00:20:38.400 i bet that was who you're gonna call if you get your first call you're gonna call probably some woman

00:20:43.200 you or you know some lady you might want to say you know so they actually have the telephone

00:20:47.120 in in branford oh yeah and uh the other thing is we're very proud of is that lacrosse was invented in

00:20:54.640 in canada it was a great sport yeah dude i didn't even know about can i mean i didn't even when i was

00:21:00.320 growing up we didn't even really believe in canada listen i i will tell you this in canada and i don't

00:21:06.320 mean this to be controversial we learned growing up the geography of pretty much the world but a lot

00:21:12.880 of canada in the united states where american kids kind of grow up they didn't learn a whole

00:21:17.520 lot about canada that there's provinces like a lot of canadian kids can name every state and every

00:21:22.560 capital but there's only a handful of people i know that can name all the provinces oh probably

00:21:28.560 70 people in america i'm not even joking i remember in our school we learned about america right yeah

00:21:34.080 some kids and you should do that but then above it on the map they had a picture of a it was like a wolf

00:21:40.160 chasing a boy you know and that was and we're like what is that and they're like that's that you

00:21:46.160 know that's canada one of the one of the first things i learned was the capital of louisiana baton

00:21:52.320 rouge oh yeah i always remember that i don't know why i remember that but i did it's a pretty good place

00:21:56.960 they had a hockey team for a little while didn't do well but i think hockey's gonna start going back

00:22:01.040 there now you watch because people are the greatest thing about our sport are the people who are in the

00:22:06.480 game like ovechkin and crosby and mcdavid and matthews and some of the bruins too yeah they're

00:22:13.520 they're just good good kids you know like they understand like they're hard working and they they

00:22:20.080 love they're unselfish to their teams but they're unreal for the league and in their communities like

00:22:24.880 these kids are good kids so our sport is growing and expanding all the time and more and more kids are

00:22:31.600 playing hockey in arizona texas louisiana florida yeah so nevada nevada is a hotbed right now because

00:22:40.320 the the the hockey team's done so well yeah people it gets infectious yeah and everybody loves it

00:22:46.400 yeah so i think more and more kids will start playing hockey and i see our game just growing

00:22:51.760 all the time um what was was there a part of the game that you

00:22:56.320 you like did you ever play goalie like because every time i see clips of you and everything

00:23:01.200 you're always not playing goalie right never play which is fine if i was a goalie i'd be more like

00:23:05.760 playing dodgeball right i came out of the way did you ever did you ever do it to uh to learn about

00:23:12.240 what it was like like did you ever like um the only time i ever did it was when i was a kid we played

00:23:18.240 ball hockey so ball hockey's played with a tennis ball and running shoes okay unlike a sport court or

00:23:25.280 gymnasium all right and so the only time i would play goal where i wasn't scared to get hit by a

00:23:30.560 puck yeah it was a tennis ball every now and then i played gold but i was listen people used to ask me

00:23:37.520 do you ever block a shot and first of all do you know how hard that puck is and for the average hockey

00:23:43.280 fan they don't realize those pucks are every puck is frozen so the pucks that you're using are not only

00:23:50.400 hurt but they're frozen too man who froze them so they're in the referee's box and so they're

00:23:56.400 frozen they're frozen so they don't bounce so they so it doesn't bounce really right because it's made

00:24:02.400 out of what rubber rubber yeah so oh my god and so they used to say it was cobalt do you ever block a

00:24:07.840 shot and i said why would i that's how why they pay the goalie that's not my job i don't ask him to

00:24:14.720 score goals he doesn't need to ask me to block shots i kind of faked it you like think you're

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00:27:36.080 holidays was there uh um you had so many records man was there something that you felt like you

00:27:41.760 wanted to get that you couldn't get kind of was there or were you even keeping tabs on that kind of

00:27:46.160 stuff yeah i didn't really keep tabs on it um i never i did when i retired i knew it was time to

00:27:54.640 retire and i didn't think back and say gosh i wish i would have done this or accomplish this

00:28:00.960 but i did i did look back and say okay because people ask me what is your favorite record and they're

00:28:06.880 all they're all yeah fun they're all you know i'm proud of them all but i got my favorite record is

00:28:12.320 the year i scored 50 goals in 39 games and for me it's my favorite record your third season or

00:28:16.960 something yeah and that's my favorite record because listen all records are made to be broken

00:28:22.320 but to me that's going to be the hardest record to break to get 50 goals in 38 games so from that

00:28:27.760 point of view it's my favorite you seem like the kind of guy that if somebody broke it you would even

00:28:32.960 be you would applaud the fact that they did that yeah you know listen i learned from two of the best

00:28:38.720 people in the world my dad who is a wonderful man and gordy howe and gordy howe was my idol when you

00:28:44.960 when you're oh yeah when you're a kid and you have an idol a lot of times you meet them and you go

00:28:49.680 oh it was just okay maybe like i had a bad day or whatever and you go well i met gordy howe when i was

00:28:55.520 10 and my dad said to me i was meeting gordy howe and i said i i can't believe it he goes what i said

00:29:01.200 he was bigger better and nicer than i ever imagined in my little brain at 10 years old you

00:29:07.360 know and so when i was breaking records gordy howe was always there he was the first guy to shake my

00:29:13.360 hand and give me a hug and so you know ovechkin's going to break my record uh which is going to be

00:29:19.440 great for our game and when he does i'll be there for him i hope i'm on the ice and i hope i get to be

00:29:25.280 one of the first people to congratulate him uh because it's a it's it's a special record and

00:29:30.880 it's good for our game if he does break it yeah um oh that's him right there it was so exciting

00:29:37.200 because i got the afternoon off school and i got a new suit that morning so it was a big day oh yeah

00:29:42.720 dude look at you know you look you know who you look like a little bit who's that you know who i'm

00:29:47.360 gonna say or no no no idea princess diana a little like i don't know just the fact that she's a

00:29:54.880 female i don't know if that that's a compliment or not and i just mean look man and he i think

00:30:00.400 it's very much common and she was a tough i've heard it before yeah you have yeah yeah man i

00:30:05.520 think god every now and then when my hair is a little whatever some guys say gosh you got rod

00:30:09.600 stewart hair oh i think there's i bet a couple of men played on your team just because they wanted to

00:30:14.560 be near you but no gordy was so nice he was just so it was a dinner it was a charity dinner this is

00:30:23.040 an incredible story uh-huh and 700 people were at the dinner and that was the year i scored 400

00:30:29.360 goals so the city wanted me to be part of it and you know when you're 10 years old you can't even

00:30:34.800 stand up and do a speech in front of your classmates right so they had told the guy you're only 10 at

00:30:39.920 this time yeah so they had told the emcee wayne just introduce him he's not going to talk and so

00:30:46.240 joe theisman was there what yeah gordy howe when you were 10 yes sandy holly a famous jockey

00:30:53.200 and so they all get up and they kind of talk for seven or eight minutes and people laugh and giggle

00:30:57.600 so the guy announces my name and i'm like oh no and i'm already frozen and gordy says to me now listen

00:31:04.400 when you go up there just tell them you're lost without your skates and your hockey stick

00:31:08.000 and so i got okay okay so i got up there and i was shaking and i i remember i said thank you and i

00:31:14.080 started bawling i got a standing ovation i went and sat down so years later i called a friend of mine

00:31:22.080 called me and he said gordy's hometown of saskatoon they're doing this charity dinner which like a

00:31:28.800 lion's club which was very similar to the one i did in my hometown yeah we had lion's club in our

00:31:33.600 town yeah so i called gordy and his son mark and i said listen gordy came to my hometown when i was 10

00:31:41.600 i'd really like gordy to come with me to saskatoon and i want to surprise everybody

00:31:46.480 so we were in saskatoon this dinner and they had sold i think there was about 3 000 people there

00:31:52.160 and the prime minister of canada happened to be in town and he called me and he says okay if i come

00:31:57.360 over there and sort of emcee this and ask you a few questions for the people and i said absolutely no

00:32:03.040 problem at all so i said oh by the way uh nobody knows this but i flew gordy and he's at the hotel and

00:32:09.440 gordy's gonna come tonight and we're gonna introduce him well it was like i wasn't there anymore the

00:32:14.960 prime minister was like okay maybe somebody will do you and i'll do gordy so anyway when i got up on

00:32:21.840 stage i said to everybody uh i got a great surprise he i met him in my hometown i i figured i should

00:32:28.560 come to his hometown and gordy howe came out and i swear to god if people didn't stop clapping they'd

00:32:35.360 still be clapping today because it was the most it was the longest nicest standing ovation that i've

00:32:41.760 ever seen somebody get and he said was so genuinely loved and he he was such he was a really people

00:32:48.160 don't realize this gordy howe is a dirty player first time i play against him i took the puck from

00:32:52.720 him and next thing you know i got a whack i was 17 years old and he cracked my thumb he said don't

00:32:57.520 ever take the puck from me again i said okay never gonna happen again yeah anyway so he got such an

00:33:03.440 ovation and after the event we went back to the hotel and gordy's had brought back a couple of his

00:33:09.680 buddies that he knew they hadn't seen in a while a couple older gentlemen and we just sat around and

00:33:15.680 he he had a he had a memory sat there and he had a cold beer and he said this was one of the greatest

00:33:20.960 days greatest nights of my life so it was very cool when you when you look at like um like when you were

00:33:28.960 a kid was most of your relationship with your dad like hockey like was it tough to because if you

00:33:34.880 became like if you excelled at something early right and a lot of times fathers and sons will

00:33:41.440 it's tough for fathers and sons to find like a common ground sometimes to connect on on things

00:33:45.360 you know parents are always putting their kids into different things and and dads are always trying to

00:33:49.520 connect with their children you know was there other ways that you could like was that most of

00:33:54.640 y'all's relationship like i'm just kind of like i guess i'm curious like what it was like we had a normal

00:34:00.000 relationship like normal father son um he was both parents tremendously supportive um you know by the

00:34:09.280 time i was 10 11 12 years old i was playing in arenas that were selling out that's like crazy you

00:34:15.440 were like a circuses in town a little bit and i mean not like that but i know what i mean yeah but

00:34:20.560 in those days too it was such a big world because there was no internet there was no cell phones and so

00:34:26.720 yeah a kid might be three hours away and you would hear about them and then when you play against them

00:34:34.240 my dad would be in the car and after the game he would say to me his favorite line was always

00:34:40.400 no matter how good you think you are there's somebody out there better than you and i'd say

00:34:44.400 okay and even when i was 15 16 when people said okay he's going to be a professional hockey player

00:34:49.440 my dad never one time said you know oh he's a can't miss or he's going to make it i mean he hoped

00:34:56.000 because he knew how much i loved it but he never pressured me the only thing he pressured me about

00:35:00.960 is he would call me say you didn't miss any classes today so really oh yeah he i said dad i don't miss

00:35:08.240 class because if i miss class the team so i was playing junior hockey and it was hard because we

00:35:13.760 practiced every day and we travel a lot yeah and so they were the team was always on you like you better

00:35:20.240 be in class so he was more concerned that i was in class i remember i was uh 17 and i had this uh

00:35:28.320 school teacher and he it was i was taking a physics class and i hated physics and chemistry was i kept

00:35:35.280 thinking now where's this gonna where am i gonna use this in the world yeah that's all i kept thinking

00:35:40.320 um anyway and he said if you just put the work in i'll pass you so i did i went to class i went to an

00:35:46.560 extra class every day with him and he worked an extra half hour every day he passed me and that

00:35:51.680 was the year that month i got offered to turn pro and i signed a pro contract and i remember i came

00:35:58.560 back and i i bought him a gift it wasn't a whole it wasn't a big thing it was like a briefcase or

00:36:03.760 something thanking him for not for being so patient with me and being so nice to me he was so grateful and

00:36:10.560 it was always sort of when i signed my dad said you're gonna stay pro hockey you're gonna stay in

00:36:17.520 high school till you're 18 i don't care what you do but you're going to school till you're 18 so here

00:36:22.080 i am playing pro hockey i was going to high school i was picking up my teammate's daughter we were in

00:36:26.640 the same class no way the guy's name was jim nielsen and i would pick his daughter up we were in the

00:36:33.040 same school same class then i'd go to practice you were like ice vs presley yeah so the principal

00:36:39.680 called me in one day and he said son i don't know you're not going to amount to anything you're

00:36:43.520 missing too many classes and i'm like well and he said you know i should just kick you out and i said

00:36:50.080 listen it was like early january and i said listen do me a favor and he goes what i said give me till

00:36:55.040 january 26 and if i haven't changed my act by then you can kick me out but i knew i couldn't go to class

00:37:01.680 because we're always traveling and playing i was playing pro hockey playing in quebec city and going to

00:37:06.080 cincinnati and did you have an ego were you in class were you like the fonds at this point in

00:37:10.080 class i sat in the back corner i just mind my own business so the day i turned 18 i walked into the

00:37:16.640 principal and i said i just want to thank you for not kicking me out but i quit i'm done and i quit

00:37:21.840 school and my i said i called my dad and and my dad said well you promised me to stay at 18 because

00:37:28.880 the contract wasn't valid unless he would sign it unless your father would sign it because i wasn't 18 yet

00:37:34.240 and so he said i'll sign it but you got to stay in high school so did you ever finish high school

00:37:40.400 technically um no but i'm a doctor yeah does that mean anything i'm an honorary doctor um

00:37:48.640 hey it counts to me bro so if you get most of the 12 grades i think that's a lot people are always like

00:37:54.320 you got to do all of them yeah um i always yeah you know what i i'm an honorary doctor it's funny

00:38:00.400 i i did the commencement speech for i said okay i'm gonna pick one and people have been kind enough

00:38:06.080 to offer me and i said you know what i'm gonna do one and so i picked the university of alberta

00:38:10.640 which is in edmonton which i thought was fitting and i have it's so funny because i have different

00:38:16.560 nicknames so in the hockey world they call me grats great one no just grats and in the golf world

00:38:26.080 they call me doc because i was telling the guys one day he was playing with i think it was dustin

00:38:31.120 and jordan spieth and i said you know i'm a doctor something to that effect so the golf world calls

00:38:37.200 me doc and the hockey world calls me grats do you you ever get to play with sheldon sorry you know

00:38:42.480 sheldon i play a lot with them yeah we're next to our neighbors oh that's awesome sheldon's a friend

00:38:46.720 of mine he's just gonna have a baby right now yeah that's so exciting no he's an unreal guy

00:38:51.040 uh he's a beautiful guy like i'm not saying he's beautiful but somebody said it yeah he's got a big

00:38:57.760 heart he's got a huge heart he's so mellow sheldon's not gonna have a heart attack like he's always mellow

00:39:04.480 he's always happy he's never upset a very calm person um yeah he's one of him and his wife are

00:39:11.040 great people yeah he's handsome dude i think that's the weird thing about something like oh yeah he's

00:39:17.120 violently handsome you're like damn that dude's handsome and then he hits you yeah and that's why

00:39:21.440 i always say to people i looked at guys like him and that's why i retired yeah they're so big they're

00:39:26.480 getting so in today these guys are so big today and the equipment is so much better and the skates are

00:39:32.880 so much better and the teaching that they get at a younger age is so much better these guys are

00:39:38.560 incredible athletes and i'm i'm glad i played when i played i'm glad i'm gone now yeah yeah sometimes it's

00:39:45.680 like you fit in time in a certain space you know i was yeah time means everything i know yeah you

00:39:51.280 would know man i got lucky you know listen um i came in at the right time i i came in when i came

00:39:59.280 in they had a a wha which was similar to the aba afl and they were signing kids under 20 which seems

00:40:07.920 illegal in some place i mean it's like how well so i signed but had there not been that league i might

00:40:14.560 have had to play another three years of junior you never know if you get hurt i may never have made

00:40:18.640 it right so my timing was really fortunate really lucky do you like to read any books are you reading

00:40:23.760 anything i'm reading one right now uh kenny albert everything i do is sports related oh yeah you love

00:40:31.280 it that much huh so i'll give you an example when i was 15 years old i was playing on a junior hockey

00:40:37.120 team and it was so exciting because my one of my teammates was murray howe who was gordy howe's

00:40:44.800 youngest son oh wow and he's just a wonderful kid and i wore number nine that year because i always

00:40:50.640 loved gordy and so when he came in i said look you should wear number nine your dad's gordy howe

00:40:55.200 i'll switch my number oh and he was no no no no this is wayne this is my last year of hockey

00:41:01.040 um i'm gonna enjoy it and i go okay he goes i'm gonna be a doctor he was a really intelligent guy

00:41:07.200 and he did go on to become a doctor so we'd get on the team bus and we'd travel to the city

00:41:13.840 he he'd get on there and he'd have all these books right and i'd get on no books and he goes

00:41:19.600 wayne you got you gotta get your education you gotta i'm going to a hockey game i can't think

00:41:24.480 about reading right now and doing homework and so about two weeks later i got on the bus and i had

00:41:30.240 like five or six books i sit down beside him and he he goes good to see you're taking notes here

00:41:36.560 wayne that's good good for you and he said he goes what do you got geography history i go well i got

00:41:42.800 gordy howe hockey my way gordy howe hockey tips i said you want to be a doctor you want to be a doctor

00:41:50.320 i want to be a hockey player but he went on to be a tremendous doctor and he actually gave the

00:41:56.000 eulogy for his dad's funeral when he when gordy passed away which was pretty remarkable

00:42:02.320 um do you did you speak at your dad's funeral what was that like yeah i did i spoke both at

00:42:08.880 my mom and my dad's um and sorry to hear yeah sorry about your fault yeah it was

00:42:15.520 you know what it was funny because there's something that just takes over inside you that

00:42:19.600 you get through it right like i remember when my mom passed my dad called me and said

00:42:25.200 you know will you speak and i said of course so when my dad was passing my brothers and my sister

00:42:30.800 said you know will you speak and i said yeah the ironic thing was when my dad passed we were still

00:42:38.160 in the midst of the pandemic so it was actually in a lot of ways it was nice for our family because

00:42:44.880 there's only 22 of us there and you know because you couldn't invite everybody had it had it not

00:42:51.760 been at that time he probably would have had to get buried or had the funeral in a in a hockey arena

00:42:57.040 yeah so many people he's he was so loved by so many people so when i i found both times sitting there

00:43:05.040 going oh this is going to be hard and then when i got up there it just kind of flowed because my dad

00:43:12.240 when i spoke at his he was so religious my dad and you know he never missed church on a sunday when

00:43:19.120 every sunday and he used to tease the kids because he tried out for the church choir and they wouldn't

00:43:24.720 let him in it yeah so there was a little boy across the street who was uh disabled and blind and my

00:43:34.320 dad picked him up every morning at 10 a every sunday morning at 10 a.m and took him to church every

00:43:38.960 sunday and then brought him back home we've taken mcdonald's and then back home and he did it every

00:43:43.600 sunday so when my dad was passing he's so religious but i remember he was still fighting

00:43:49.920 to stay down here so to speak um he was 22 days basically on a deathbed right and uh the minister would

00:44:00.160 come every night at our house and he would give him his last rites and i said ride him out again

00:44:06.160 i say to minister my dad's got the biggest hurt you're coming i'll see you tomorrow so anyway when

00:44:12.800 when we did give the uh when i did give the ug i could feel like he was there and he got me through

00:44:18.720 it wow that's fascinating man yeah i remember i went to my dad's funeral it was like i don't know

00:44:25.440 it's just such a strength it's such a i don't know it's wild seeing something like that happen i

00:44:31.600 think do you think it helped that your father had such a faith did he give you so like oh yeah

00:44:37.120 yeah like he knew there was life after death he was going to see his mother he's going to see his

00:44:41.920 father so part of him was probably excited huh yeah i think yeah in some ways but i think he wanted

00:44:49.040 to be here as long as he could yeah he loved being around his grandkids he loved being around people

00:44:54.000 um he was just really special in that sense um you know i don't not too often you can say

00:45:01.360 that people don't have enemies but i don't think my dad had an enemy like he was beloved by everyone

00:45:06.560 um i remember one time i came home when i when i would go home and visit him every now and then

00:45:13.920 you know my dad would tell the whole city right that you were coming yeah so i got smart on that and

00:45:18.800 i i call my mom and i'd say i'll be home tomorrow don't tell dad so i get there in the morning this

00:45:25.440 is hilarious and i walk in and there's a guy lying on the couch oh yeah i get over to my mom and i

00:45:32.080 kind of know everybody that goes in and out of our house you know my mom was in the kitchen and i said

00:45:36.800 who's lying on the couch who is that she goes i don't know um but he's hitchhiking across the country

00:45:42.320 from newfoundland wanted to see the house so your dad told him to spend the night and have a good meal

00:45:46.240 so that's the kind of guy my dad was and the guy spent the night and got up in the morning and him

00:45:52.720 and i had coffee at the time you got to get a picture with my jersey on when i happened to be

00:45:58.960 home that day and he was hitchhiking the rest of canada that was the kind of dad my dad was wow

00:46:04.160 they should put him they should put him in a jersey and let him hitchhike the country forever and just

00:46:08.000 make it like a thing you know well you know it's not the stanley cup but hey guys have you met

00:46:13.280 stanley and everybody just picks him up there you go yeah it'd be funny um i'm trying to think

00:46:19.280 about something else that's pretty neat man do you uh well we could talk about my wife's family they

00:46:26.320 my mother-in-law's 102 no way which is amazing y'all got that long blood in you homie she she's 102

00:46:32.960 she's a great lady she lived with us and helped raise our kids for 30 years um but she lives in our

00:46:39.200 house in st louis and when we're there she likes to go for lunch or dinner almost every day and she

00:46:44.560 gets around on her own it's truly remarkable and what's amazing is that unfortunately her her dad

00:46:50.880 passed away at 56 uh which is awful cancer and two sisters who had breast cancer both passed away

00:46:58.480 and the mom is 102 and still going strong wow that's incredible i got some longevity then in your uh

00:47:04.880 genes huh my my dad always said it's the hours you get before midnight for sleeping for sleeping

00:47:12.080 gives you longevity and my mother-in-law is asleep by 8 30 and gets up at four i think there's something

00:47:18.240 to that i think there's something to it yeah there's something nice when you're up in the morning and

00:47:21.440 you feel like you like just kind of got up with the sun you just feel like you're kind of dialed yeah

00:47:25.840 and you know it's amazing the older you get the earlier you get up right and the less you sleep for

00:47:31.040 some reason yeah isn't that weird man and my dad used to always say i remember he had a famous quote

00:47:36.800 to me he goes uh you know you spend your whole life as a kid trying to figure out how to stay out

00:47:42.480 of bed and as an adult you try to figure out your whole life how do i get to sleep how do i get in

00:47:47.360 bed it's so true yeah yeah i think sometimes when people are like sometimes if i even think about like

00:47:54.000 leaving this earth you know and passing away from here i think about just getting some good rest

00:47:58.320 you know it's kind of the way i think about it in my head it's like you know some of that will be

00:48:02.400 relieving did you guys ever go on any vacations and stuff when you were a kid because if you're

00:48:06.000 always doing hockey it seemed like you're probably always on the run did you ever go to florida or

00:48:09.680 somewhere or the north pole that's funny the north pole um well two things are are my mom's life

00:48:19.120 this is sometimes she would complain about this uh so in the winter time it was hockey tournaments

00:48:24.800 summer time it was lacrosse and baseball tournaments so that was our vacations and then

00:48:29.440 every three years my dad's sister uh because my parent grandparents in the 50s had tobacco farms

00:48:36.560 and people from the south would come up to work in the summer because the season for picking is a

00:48:41.840 little different so they can make money in canada then go back oh that's nice so my uncle was from

00:48:45.840 greensboro carolina he married my dad's sister and every two years we would go down there for two weeks

00:48:50.880 we'd drive down for two weeks um and and uh stay there with our cousins and my aunt and uncle

00:48:59.120 and that was probably our vacation right uh i remember one time driving back i convinced my

00:49:04.640 parents to stop in cooperstown which was a little out of the way and my mom was so mad she said we

00:49:11.360 spent an extra six hours drying so you could go to cooperstown and my dad would say this is good for

00:49:16.240 him it's okay oh that's so much fun man i love it even when you were talking about like the lore like

00:49:24.080 back in the day if you had like if you heard about a kid playing you'd have to go and see him oh yeah

00:49:28.800 yeah that was the way it was back then oh there was something so much more magical about like

00:49:33.280 lore like they don't have as much of it anymore because everybody you know everybody i don't know

00:49:38.960 but you know the funny thing is like if you say to kids today like new york to london england's not

00:49:46.720 that far we used to think brantford to windsor ontario which was a two and a half hour drive

00:49:51.840 was like going to the other other side of the world right yeah like the world was so much bigger back

00:49:56.000 then oh we thought florida if we saw somebody had a shirt on in louisiana if it said florida on it yeah

00:50:01.040 it was like you've been there was only two places you must be the richest guy here yeah heaven and

00:50:05.440 florida here you go yeah it was like dang you've been to florida we never got to florida yeah but

00:50:10.960 we got to carolina which was really nice it was great going with our relatives and when you guys

00:50:15.520 just all get in the car and just drive down there yeah we had a um old car a station wagon um where

00:50:22.400 would you sit i was always uh in the back seat you know and then it's like school yeah and we would

00:50:29.520 drive and gosh we didn't have air conditioning in our car so every now and then you roll down the

00:50:34.480 window so it wasn't as hot uh but then you get down to carolina it was so humid right you'd be

00:50:39.280 like oh put the windows up and let's sweat um so i my dad used to always tease me uh when i was

00:50:46.560 14 13 14 15 he'd always say if you do make professional hockey just remember but i just

00:50:52.560 buy me a cadillac yeah so i bought one of those big brits cadillacs i brought it home right

00:50:58.080 so the summer goes by the year goes by go back home the next summer and i look at the car and there's

00:51:04.000 like 80 miles on it and i will go and i said to my mom i said i bought dad this car why is he not

00:51:10.000 driving it she goes he does he can't drive it to work because he doesn't want to have a nicer car

00:51:15.280 than his boss he ended up i think he sold it i don't think he really ever drove it but it was a

00:51:21.680 it was a good father-son thing that we had together growing up as a kid right yeah is pornography

00:51:27.840 causing a problem in your life it's a fair question you know there were times when i was

00:51:33.440 looking at too much and ogling and letting my brain be occupied with things that it really

00:51:39.680 shouldn't just things i didn't need to see it wasn't good for my heart wasn't good for my soul

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00:54:44.080 a kid or something like that oh really hockey was my life it was huh it was your girlfriend i didn't

00:54:50.800 have one just hockey yeah just you know i had a um junior a coach when i 16 years old playing with

00:54:59.120 19 20 year olds and he would say playing junior hockey is really hard um but being a professional

00:55:06.000 hockey player is a great life and so you said you got hockey you got um uh schooling and you got uh night

00:55:14.400 life and you can only do two of the three so make sure you pick the right two so when you're 16 years

00:55:19.040 old it was my life i loved lived and died it go to school from 8 30 to three o'clock practice four

00:55:26.720 to six every night play usually thursday saturday sunday back to school right same thing when you

00:55:32.960 listen when you see like how you were compared to like how some other players were right did you think

00:55:38.080 that you almost had like a uh abnormality how much you liked it or how much you focused on it like was it

00:55:45.520 that kind of thing um because i see players i have friends that are good at things and friends that

00:55:51.120 really are let's put it this way um i knew there's a lot of other really good players and athletes but

00:55:57.120 for us for me you know especially when i got to be 16 i knew i knew that was my life like i knew it wasn't

00:56:04.400 going to be a great student um i knew it was going to be hard for me to get a college degree i i understood

00:56:12.240 that i knew my forte was going to be hockey and growing up playing baseball track and field lacrosse

00:56:20.160 and i encourage parents all the time all those sports helped my hockey oh yeah and so by the time

00:56:25.040 i got to 16 i was like okay this is what i'm going to do i want to be a professional hockey player um

00:56:31.920 and so i i really that was my focus and the only advice my dad used to say give me really was

00:56:38.880 um you got a great opportunity here to really have a wonderful life and the good lord blessed you

00:56:46.640 with a love and a passion like i've never seen before and sort of like don't blow it don't throw

00:56:52.160 it away and so i always kind of thought that that i never thought i was missing out going to

00:56:58.560 a different city or going here or doing this if i was my enjoyment was being on the ice yeah i didn't

00:57:06.080 think like i was missing anything else like wow i never even never even fazed me yeah that was the

00:57:11.600 thing and you know i can remember um my dad saying you know you're gonna have so many opportunities

00:57:20.400 here for some reason you know with your aunt being down syndrome and you growing up with that in the

00:57:27.280 canadian institute for the blind was in my hometown of branford like there's more than just hockey like

00:57:33.360 you're gonna be one day you're gonna be a symbol for good things and so i always i kind of grew up

00:57:39.920 with it right it was that was kind of my education what a powerful thing to say to a child too you know

00:57:44.400 oh yeah they have the that they if they do their best you know not even do their best but if they

00:57:51.360 make help people they make enough effort that they have a the possibility to be a a symbol for for

00:57:56.880 good yeah and so that's really powerful yeah and so you know i just i mean that's i guess you know

00:58:04.640 i became wayne gretzky and so just had a love for it that's all is it like did it trust me there was a

00:58:12.160 lot of guys with more talent than i had right there's a lot of guys who were better than i was really and

00:58:17.120 then there's some guys that i just wanted it more than yeah but but by no means was i the best player

00:58:23.120 ever there were so many great players did any players ever smoke cigarettes like at halftime or

00:58:27.920 whatever no it that kind of faded out in the uh late 70s you know 60s and 70s people grew up with

00:58:35.600 that unfortunately that's what happened to my mother she was smoker 16 years old but that was that era

00:58:41.040 right yeah and there was there not a lot of hockey players who smoked but there was a few but by 1980 that

00:58:47.600 was all it was gone sometimes you like to romanticize seeing somebody spark you know well

00:58:53.360 i think it was mickey mantle or joe dimaggio didn't they do ads for cigarettes in the yeah

00:58:58.560 they used to get paid to be on pictures and everybody just kind of accepted it and

00:59:05.760 now they get mad if you endorse um betting that's the new big thing yeah a lot of people are doing that

00:59:11.680 now everything's kind of become like every a lot of the ads now are gambling i think a lot of people

00:59:16.080 are gambling on stuff and all the owners they all a lot of them own their own places and you know

00:59:21.200 all sports baseball basketball football so you know i just did a wonderful commercial with jamie fox

00:59:27.040 for bet mgm and i had a ball doing it with a wonderful guy yeah it was fun did y'all wear tuxedos

00:59:32.320 or something we wore suits so yeah their ads always had like a polished look yeah it was pretty cool he

00:59:37.120 was it was his first working day after his injury um but he was great he was fine he was he worked all

00:59:43.520 night the night before then he worked all night with me that night had you ever worked with him

00:59:47.520 before now no i hadn't worked with him before but you know small world we lived five minutes apart

00:59:52.960 in a thousand oaks so i used to see him periodically at different things but he was beloved in the

00:59:58.720 community and another guy he really didn't have any enemies everybody loved him well he's one of the

01:00:03.040 most time people forget also that he's a stand-up comedian oh and how great he was and living

01:00:08.480 color was like the best tv show they ever had when i was growing up he he he the jamie fox show was

01:00:13.920 unbelievable he was so talented and then he won a oscar for uh forget oh yeah muhammad ali maybe no no

01:00:22.080 it was uh ray um ray yeah yeah he was unreal sugar ray leonard no who was it ray lamontaine no no the

01:00:31.360 singer ray charles yeah i was going blank too but he was phenomenal in that so anyway i had fun with

01:00:38.640 him he's a wonderful guy did he seem healthy yeah yeah he's fine he was great he's happy um

01:00:45.040 i don't even know really what happened he didn't you know it's not my business and he didn't talk

01:00:49.200 about it but but if you didn't know something happened you wouldn't even know you wouldn't

01:00:51.920 know wow he was doing fine and and like i said he was working late like he'd worked the night before

01:00:57.520 sort of nine o'clock to five because they got to shut everything down so they can film it in

01:01:02.480 actual place right and so the next night was sort of eight o'clock to five again he was unreal he was

01:01:07.680 fine did you guys go see a show or anything while you were out there or no no no no i'm not big on

01:01:12.480 going to shows although my friend who i work with henrik lundquist went to the opening of the sphere

01:01:18.960 in vegas and he said it's not like anything you've ever seen before first of all you two and then

01:01:24.560 so it's the future huh he says they have these ai robots that when you talk to them you think

01:01:31.520 they're real people it's unbelievable reminds me of this girl i dated for a while so we're gonna

01:01:37.280 have a hockey coach that'll be the first one a hockey coach ai he's our hockey coach

01:01:43.920 you know i always fantasize if it would be pretty cool not fantasize that's a weird word to say to

01:01:47.760 another man but i always thought about wouldn't it be neat if there was a team where people could sit

01:01:52.640 at home and make like as a group vote really fast on what the next play should be and that

01:01:58.560 it would almost be a completely controlled team by like the fans you know you probably would struggle

01:02:04.480 in hockey because it's so quick yeah but you could probably do it football for sure set up the play um

01:02:11.520 yeah football was i think the sport that i thought about it the most yeah hockey be hard maybe even

01:02:15.440 baseball because you could pick the pitch that the pitcher throws yeah and who's pitching yeah it'd be

01:02:21.360 pretty interesting two of them you could do probably um did you ever get to meet michael jackson or not

01:02:26.640 no but i used to do hot yoga in thousand oaks uh with his brother tito yeah it was fun nice nice

01:02:34.160 femme nice guy so yeah um but i never met michael jackson no i remember um i got to talk to hulk hogan and

01:02:41.760 he met michael jackson one time it was just interesting you want to i got a great hulk hogan story yeah so

01:02:48.000 people don't know this but hulk used to live in thousand oaks too and it was december 24th

01:02:56.400 we go to this thousand oaks mall and i'm getting last minute christmas gifts for my kids who were at

01:03:02.240 the time sort of 10 12 and 14 so i put them all in the car and they had a valet parking for the at the

01:03:11.200 mall so i get up come out and i put all my bags in the car and i drive home so i get a call around

01:03:17.440 seven o'clock and he goes wayne i go yeah and he says terry i think his real name was yeah terry

01:03:23.600 he goes terry terry he goes hulk he goes we got a problem i go what's the problem he goes

01:03:30.560 we got the exact same car i got your car and your presence you got my car my presence so i go outside

01:03:37.520 and i'm like oh my god he goes yeah my kids are older it's probably not going to work so he said

01:03:41.600 i'll meet you halfway so we drove back halfway together and we switched the cars out got the

01:03:45.440 presents and went home true story you guys got into each other's cars well because the valet guy just

01:03:51.440 got and they're exact same cars and we were you know we weren't really paying attention because the

01:03:56.480 same colors but then your kids wake up in christmas morning and they all get bandanas

01:04:00.560 you're like they get bandanas and body oil isn't that funny though your 12 year old daughter is

01:04:08.080 getting a jar of body oil you're like this seems a little weird now i do remember saying i don't

01:04:14.800 think your kids are gonna like what i got my kids they're older it's all cold they got his kids did

01:04:20.640 you uh when you met your wife how'd you know that she was like the wife for you like my dad told me

01:04:25.280 really gosh he was a real leader then well the first week i said what do you think he goes oh

01:04:31.760 she's a lifer i go you just met her you know what we had the same similarities like we love

01:04:37.440 we love both want to have a family we want to have kids um we both love sports it's wonderful that

01:04:44.640 i i actually her and i watch hockey together baseball football basketball she loves going to games she

01:04:51.440 loved growing up with our kids going to all their sporting events and going to the girls

01:04:56.480 ballet and dancing we just um we think the same way i guess and we're born 16 days apart she's

01:05:04.560 january 10 i'm january uh 26 um yeah so we had a lot in common go you know is it different being a

01:05:13.200 dad to like a girl and a boy like oh yeah i don't have any children like i would like to have some one

01:05:17.520 day you know but i don't have any some ways it's different in other ways it's it's

01:05:21.360 not um you know it's just it's just a little bit different but not really did it come easy to

01:05:29.440 you being a dad some of my friends have a tough time and some of them oh yeah i was i loved being

01:05:33.840 a dad so yeah you know i always told my friends you know you do all your parenting until about 13 or 14

01:05:40.640 um they haven't learned by then you haven't done the job right right and our biggest thing in our house

01:05:46.560 was everybody can say please thank you and excuse me that was our biggest fight not fight but that

01:05:52.240 was the biggest thing we drilled in all the time and then when your kids get to be 16 70 18 then you

01:05:57.760 become best friends and so i don't really look at my kids as kids anymore look at them as my closer

01:06:03.760 friends simple as that so it's interesting yeah they kind of evolved then yeah i'd rather hang out

01:06:09.040 with my kids at this age now than travel somewhere to go visit somebody for two days you know it's yeah

01:06:15.040 this is fun did you ever have to take your kids like what did you ever take them trick-or-treating

01:06:19.840 or something like that so this is a funny story too so we look when i played for the new york rangers we

01:06:25.920 had a apartment in a high-rise play there no no no uh mark messier was on that team brian leach so we

01:06:34.720 lived in this high-rise 16th floor right so it was our first year in manhattan and your whole family

01:06:41.280 was living in a high-rise in manhattan we had a three bedroom there was at the time we only had three

01:06:44.960 kids so we had bedroom for my wife and i one for the two boys and one for paulina and so i remember

01:06:52.320 i said to the doorman the day before halloween i said where do we trick-or-treat here yeah he goes

01:06:56.880 oh everybody just walks through the building and i'm thinking no no no no so we lived on just off

01:07:02.400 him out in the street to brooklyn no no no listen so i'm like we're right on madison ave 63rd madison

01:07:10.160 so i go out there i said okay and i walked into every one of those stores that i know my wife had

01:07:15.280 ventured into a lot prada gucci on i said you guys better have candy tomorrow at six o'clock

01:07:21.440 and so we walked the kids down i said you got to be outside right you can't be walking so we go into

01:07:27.600 like gucci and they give them stuff we go in prada they're getting candy i still think they do it

01:07:32.320 today but it made more sense to me than walking through an apartment building you just want to

01:07:36.480 be outside on halloween oh you have to you have to run inside yeah yeah so it's fun when you did you

01:07:42.080 was it fun doing trick-or-treating when you were a kid like you remember what you dressed up as you

01:07:45.440 just dress up as a hockey player i always went as a hockey player so and i'll tell you why because

01:07:52.400 every halloween it seemed like we had to practice that night so we would be on the ice from like five

01:07:57.200 o'clock to six and you know it gets dark by 6 30 at that time of the year in canada so we my dad

01:08:03.760 would race me home i'd get a pillowcase and i'd go up and down the street get a ton of candy and that

01:08:09.280 was my and i just left my hockey uniform on just took my helmet off and every place i went to the

01:08:15.120 people they all knew i was coming as a hockey player they used to laugh because it's a small

01:08:18.160 community small street you knew everybody right oh wayne's here wayne's here again the hockey guy

01:08:22.560 gosh that's wild man that it was that much of your life that it was your halloween costume

01:08:29.920 that says a lot i feel like yeah you know well when i was seven i went to a barber shop and

01:08:37.600 i asked the barber if he if he could cut my give me a gordy howe haircut

01:08:43.760 i liked the gordy howe in hockey it was crazy what's something that you like admire about each one

01:08:48.720 of your children kind of no i just they're all nice you know they're polite they're not egotistical

01:08:55.920 they're they're not um uh in the slightest jaded at all they're just good kids that's

01:09:02.960 you know i my youngest two are still in college and they love it i have a son at nyu and a daughter

01:09:07.920 at smu and three kids who have children of their own now yeah they're just they're nice none of them

01:09:14.000 or jaded that's the best part when you finished uh hockey like as a um employee as a player yeah

01:09:21.440 did you um was it did you find like was it tough to like take that energy and all that mode like that

01:09:28.880 because you have you have such a focus and there's a focal point was it interesting to see like how that

01:09:34.000 popped up in other places in your life or was it that was a that was a big issue um

01:09:39.920 it hasn't and it doesn't you know i i my life was hockey um if i go play tennis uh

01:09:50.160 i just play i'm not i don't really even care about the score if i go play golf it doesn't matter if i

01:09:55.280 shoot 83 or 93 i don't worry about it i don't stress about it you know i did all that you know and i loved

01:10:03.600 it um but i don't have that same like fight or battle for fun i just don't have that and you

01:10:12.560 know people always say michael jordan's so competitive of everything he does and that's

01:10:18.400 not you that's that's not me i i just i'm fine i'm happy what i accomplished i'm happy i'm i did it

01:10:25.040 i'm happy i'm done but that's all kind of behind me now i don't worry about it it's like uh i get

01:10:30.560 parents to come up to me you know mothers are hardest right and my mom was worse too she chased

01:10:37.040 down bobby hall to get an autograph for me and and so when moms grab me i go i get it i get it my mom

01:10:42.640 did it for me too but the moms always say to me will you tell my son how many hours a day he used to

01:10:47.760 practice and i go that's not it and she go what do you mean i go that's not it i said i just did it

01:10:53.360 because i loved it if you have to say you got to be out there two hours or three hours you're in the

01:10:58.640 wrong thing i just was there all day long because i loved it yeah wow yeah moms would be nuts i

01:11:05.040 remember michael landon was coming to our town and once and mom was all excited but he didn't show up

01:11:12.240 he couldn't leave the prairie

01:11:17.760 yeah yeah every week on that show one of his kids was like getting beaten by kicked by a horse or like

01:11:24.240 yeah somebody had dementia yeah i was like what do you mean a nine-year-old has dementia like every

01:11:28.960 every week it was like there was like different yeah there was iron and too much iron in the water

01:11:34.000 or something or somebody was blind so when you get on one of those early teams like did it were you guys

01:11:38.960 on a bus just cruising like through like canada like you guys like just heading all over the place

01:11:43.200 do you ever have that kind of time or no um so when i played junior hockey in the league i was in

01:11:48.560 ontario i was on a team called sous saint marie greyhounds which was the farthest north in ontario

01:11:54.560 wow so our our closest bus trip was three and a half hours to sudbury so the team got an airplane it

01:12:00.960 was a dc3 no and we used to fly to all the games and basically played thursday night friday night

01:12:08.080 saturday afternoon sunday afternoon and fly back to sous saint marie and we do that twice a month

01:12:12.640 and then when i turned pro you know edmonton we flew commercial everywhere and you know it was a

01:12:18.880 lot of flights that we went to edmonton through minnesota or edmonton through chicago to get the

01:12:24.160 there wasn't a whole lot of direct flights from edmonton to manhattan so yeah i traveled a lot we've

01:12:29.920 been around a lot i remember i went to florida so i was in florida right i've been on a cruise ship

01:12:35.280 and i had to go to edmonton to perform right at the comedy club there oh yeah it was like one of the

01:12:39.600 first time i've been in there oh yeah and uh at the mall of america right or mall of of canada

01:12:44.480 yeah they built that one before the one in minnesota well that one first of all you guys

01:12:48.720 has a gun range in it which isn't crazy you know and we got a we got a lake with waves we got a

01:12:54.880 hockey rink in there it's pretty much everything in there yeah yeah there's like four american eagles

01:13:01.520 in there and then they're actually there was an actual american eagle in there last time we were in

01:13:06.000 there yeah and it was hatching it was doing like a um i think it had a couple of chicklings or

01:13:12.240 whatever near pay less shoes yeah i i've never been a hunter you know hunting duck hunting big in your

01:13:19.440 country yeah it's big in alberta big in saskatchewan we went hunting one time i went one time in my life

01:13:24.880 went with three teammates we were 19 years old we didn't know what we were doing and uh we're two hours

01:13:30.720 in we were duck hunting and we couldn't figure out where the ducks were and this guy come over he said

01:13:34.880 he said you guys got a goose call that's how bad our hunting was and we're standing there going

01:13:41.600 well no we just thought there was no ducks yeah you look over just tony cera gooses there you got

01:13:47.120 the wrong you got the wrong uh horn or whatever i'm like okay that was my last time i had to go to this

01:13:52.640 store it was five dollars to get a permit i never even fired the gun it was the last time i ever went

01:13:57.120 never shot a gun since who's one of like the funniest guys that you spend your time around in the

01:14:03.120 league like who's somebody that you love being around that really makes you laugh brad hall is a

01:14:06.800 genius and he's brad hall's one of the funniest nicest people you ever ever meet he remembers

01:14:11.760 every word and every song he remembers lines from movies like he's just and he's got a big heart he's

01:14:17.760 a tremendous guy did you uh what's a good concert that you went to that you enjoyed over the years

01:14:23.520 um you know what i'm seeing elton john this weekend elton john is phenomenal i saw elton john and billy

01:14:32.000 joel together no way at the forum years ago which was remarkable but you know i my very first concert

01:14:39.600 ever went to was um uh chicago remember the band chicago and i remember i was 16 years old

01:14:49.280 and i was good friends with david foster who was he's the producer producer writer he's a comedian boy

01:14:56.320 and so two years later i was playing the world cup for canada and he calls me and he said uh there's

01:15:03.200 a couple guys from chicago that want to come to your practice can you get them in i'm like yeah of

01:15:09.280 course so they came in i think the drummer's name was johnny penazzo right and he used to play a little

01:15:15.600 bit of goaltender in hockey so they came to practice and i'm sitting there we went for lunch after and i

01:15:20.800 remember saying two years ago sitting in the last row watching their concert and two years later i'm

01:15:28.000 having lunch with them so i always said that was one of my favorite concerts oh yeah yeah i remember i

01:15:33.040 got a t-shirt i don't even know who gave i think where we got it from i didn't even know it was a

01:15:37.520 band i thought it was just for the city yeah and then i wore when i was a kid it was just a nice shirt

01:15:41.600 it was like pure cotton and i remember just that i remember wearing that chicago shirt i'm trying to

01:15:47.440 think of the first concert i ever went to might have been like smashing pumpkins or something

01:15:52.240 well our big ones up there are pink floyd and oh yeah the hit and tragically hip tragically hip

01:15:59.840 yeah brian adams oh dude i met brian adams in south africa at a breakfast buffet um and uh he's a

01:16:08.720 wonderful guy and of course celine dion oh yeah she was uh burton cummings was big in canada burton

01:16:15.280 cummings yeah they were in a band called the guess who i think maybe i've heard of them i'm trying

01:16:20.480 to think of something else i've heard of um you know i uh my mom used to make us clean the house

01:16:27.600 right and we she wouldn't put brian adams on repeat we got on like one of those cd like you

01:16:35.840 know where they mail you seven cds for 40 cents and then you get sued over the years the first album

01:16:40.800 was cuts like a knife right yeah yeah i met him when he was 17 you met him when he was 17 and that

01:16:48.080 album had just come out he was 17 when that came out i was 17 he was 18 he was a year or two older

01:16:54.240 than me he was that young when he became a star oh yeah yeah and he was good because from there he just

01:16:59.200 got bigger and better it's funny because my friends and i'll laugh at me because every time somebody

01:17:05.120 comes on whether it's a singer or an actor or whatever i'll go you know he's canadian like there's so

01:17:09.440 many people that you don't know that are canadian that i know yeah i go he's canadian you know

01:17:13.760 there's so many greats jim carrey um howie mandel yeah and there's a lot of really good canadians

01:17:21.840 are you the most famous wayne do you think no wayne myers from wayne's world oh yeah wayne's world huh

01:17:29.840 wayne myers wayne newton he's not canadian though yeah oh no but just a wayne overall

01:17:37.040 oh bruce wayne yeah i didn't think of him yeah i think batman might have you yeah little wayne

01:17:43.840 little wayne i met little wayne recently at a hockey game he was very nice and did he come up

01:17:48.400 and say i'm also wayne like does that happen when you're a celebrity like that like hey i'm waiting

01:17:52.640 too or no he just he was very cordial i said hey i actually stopped him i said can i get a picture

01:17:59.200 with you he's like of course he was at a hockey game it was the vegas nights game oh there you are

01:18:03.920 right there i was like i grabbed him i was like gosh i gotta get a picture with him because all

01:18:08.560 my kids would always say dad you know you're in little wayne's song i'm like okay and so when i

01:18:13.680 saw him i said gosh i gotta get a picture of him i kind of fanned it up i kind of like became a mom

01:18:22.480 yeah yeah you became princess diana there you go yeah little wayne looks a little high in that picture

01:18:28.000 too i'll say that i don't blame him is there something is there canada doesn't revere celebrity

01:18:34.800 it's different right than in america oh they do they're listen canadians are very proud of their

01:18:40.640 country right no oh yeah no doubt but if yeah there's something they like the story that like

01:18:46.880 my canadian friends love stories like yeah bizzel my tour manager is canadian and he loves like the

01:18:51.920 well there's always like yeah but this guy you know like they love the uh well right now probably

01:19:00.000 drake's probably our biggest canadian right now oh yeah he's probably he's probably the

01:19:05.600 he's the closest thing right now to to taylor swift i would imagine draker santa

01:19:12.640 no drake's pretty big i got to meet drake last weekend actually yeah at a concert no it was um

01:19:18.480 i was hanging out with this guy david gruttman he's like a okay he's a restaurateur i was hanging

01:19:24.000 out with this restaurateur guy i was in miami okay and drake had had some uh was having like a little

01:19:30.080 get-together in a bar that he'd rented out a small bar and he knew it so we went by and he and i had

01:19:36.800 had messaged each other what's that which city were you in uh miami florida okay he and i messaged

01:19:41.920 each other all right he had a concert there last week yeah a bunch of our friends drove down for the

01:19:45.360 concert from where from canada no no we live in jupiter oh you do fort lauderdale area oh it's

01:19:51.360 pretty over there yeah yeah see i i got to florida once and i just stayed it's nice i'm telling you

01:19:58.320 i couldn't get there as a kid but now i live there people are on to it brother but um i got them yeah

01:20:03.040 i said hey and then we started talking for a little bit and um it was really nice i thought i was

01:20:07.040 going to be nervous because sometimes if you meet like i think celebrities you know sometimes you

01:20:11.040 can be really nervous you know and i just i'm glad i wasn't like real nervous i i get like that

01:20:16.240 sometimes still is there somebody that you met that over the years and you were like yeah because

01:20:19.840 you get surprised sometimes you're chill as could be you're like oh i'm doing good yeah no there's

01:20:24.080 people that i've met over the years and you go oh wow that guy's really cool or yeah i don't know i

01:20:30.160 met president clinton about a year ago at the golf course and he was so nice and yeah it's like

01:20:37.200 like most people are pretty nice right yeah yeah and i guess with golf you get to probably

01:20:42.240 play games with a lot of neat people huh yeah some of them are nice guys um

01:20:48.240 on the golf course some of them get they get competitive yeah and sometimes

01:20:53.200 sometimes they don't you know yeah but i'm not competitive so people that play with me know i'm

01:20:58.720 i'm having fun you're just taking it easy um what are some what like your dad had a

01:21:04.080 pretty strong religious belief did that carry over into your family or what is that kind of like

01:21:08.160 for you oh yeah we real strong uh belief you know um when i was a kid uh i got confirmed when i was 14

01:21:16.640 years old um but we we have a belief of you treat people the way you want to be treated that's our

01:21:23.920 big religion in our house um there's no reason to be mean to people that's kind of what we live by

01:21:31.040 um when you look at anything else like in life that you want to do like are there things that

01:21:37.600 like you find now that kind of um or when you look to your future obviously like spending time with

01:21:42.320 your family yeah you know do you have any big goals still no i really don't my wife says me that's

01:21:48.560 so nice you gotta i said you know i'm gonna be 65 soon and my goal is retirement really you know

01:21:55.680 i've traveled a lot i've done a lot i'm loving being on tnt it's a riot great people wonderful

01:22:02.720 organization i'm i'm thrilled doing it a few times a month and i love it because i'm still involved

01:22:08.720 with hockey yeah we don't have to stress out over it winning or losing so so when i go and i'm doing

01:22:14.080 the games people go who do you want to win i'm like it doesn't matter to me now my heart is obviously

01:22:19.280 with edmonton la st louis and rangers so if they're playing i'm kind of pulling for them

01:22:24.400 but other than that i'm like whoever the best team is i hope they have a great game oh yeah

01:22:29.520 um yeah you scored kind of all your goals i guess on the ice maybe huh there you go um thank you so

01:22:35.360 much wayne for your time and just for uh yeah i don't know just being a fascinating person to talk

01:22:40.400 to and get to spend time around it's inspiring just to hear like um that being a human is uh just as

01:22:46.000 important to you as being a a great athlete i never looked at myself as somebody different

01:22:52.080 we're all the same right just be nice to people and listen i love doing your show it's fun yeah

01:22:56.880 thank you so much for your time brother now i'm just floating on the breeze and i feel i'm falling

01:23:02.720 like these leaves i must be cornerstone

01:23:09.200 oh but when i reach that ground i'll share this peace of mind i found i can feel it in my bones

01:23:19.280 but it's gonna tell you

This Past Weekend with Theo Von - November 21, 2023

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