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00:01:00.880 from bar marilou in new orleans louisiana saw and we're grateful to sit down today with uh nfl quarterback

00:01:11.120 heisman trophy winner and uh one of the most charismatic guys in the league today's guest is mr james

00:01:18.640 winston

00:01:28.640 Yeah, because I met somebody where I was at the grocery yesterday and I met a guy.

00:01:51.840 He said, he always sees you in there getting a lot of juices.

00:01:55.800 Were you at Whole Foods or Fresh Market?

00:01:58.460 Yeah.

00:01:59.200 I'm in there, man.

00:02:00.240 Are you?

00:02:01.220 Yeah, I'm in there.

00:02:02.080 Like, I get the watermelon juice.

00:02:04.680 Oh, yeah.

00:02:05.220 Like, I got a watermelon juice right here.

00:02:07.580 Oh, you do, huh?

00:02:08.360 Yeah, I do.

00:02:09.040 All right.

00:02:09.520 I keep it, man.

00:02:10.380 Okay.

00:02:10.760 Good for circulation, you know, good for the body.

00:02:13.560 Yeah, I'm just saying he keeps that thang on in my herd. 1.00

00:02:16.260 I keep it.

00:02:17.580 That watermelon juice, bro.

00:02:19.860 Yeah, you got, look, if you can't get to one in real time, keep the juice out of it.

00:02:24.320 I feel that.

00:02:25.940 Yeah, man.

00:02:26.740 Thanks for coming in, bro.

00:02:29.360 No, thank you.

00:02:30.080 I'm thankful for this, man.

00:02:31.620 I admire you, your story.

00:02:33.500 You know what I'm saying?

00:02:34.300 Appreciate it.

00:02:34.920 Yeah, no doubt.

00:02:35.900 Yeah, I've been a lifelong Saints fan, too.

00:02:37.900 So, yeah, this is really, it's just a nice opportunity, man, to get to sit down with you today.

00:02:42.800 Like, yeah, we went to the basketball game last night.

00:02:46.560 Pels.

00:02:47.180 Yeah.

00:02:48.100 You been?

00:02:49.120 Yeah, I've been to some Pels games.

00:02:50.900 Yeah, I enjoy it.

00:02:51.920 Yeah.

00:02:52.180 I enjoy the city, man.

00:02:53.200 Smoothie King.

00:02:54.160 Yeah.

00:02:54.460 Actually, we went to one of my old recruits back at Florida State, Malachi Dupree, went

00:03:01.680 to LSU.

00:03:02.900 We went to his little sushi spot.

00:03:04.560 Me and Cam Jordan and a good friend, Stone, my wife, his wife.

00:03:08.060 And we met a couple that just came from the game.

00:03:10.400 They were celebrating their second year anniversary.

00:03:12.260 Last night?

00:03:12.660 Yeah, she had, like, on her Pels, like, chain and everything.

00:03:16.220 And I was like, hey, man, y'all celebrating?

00:03:18.380 Did the Pels win last night?

00:03:20.200 You know, you celebrate your anniversary?

00:03:21.960 That's a big night.

00:03:22.780 Going to a Pels game?

00:03:23.160 Yeah.

00:03:23.460 And they were talking about, yeah, we came all the way from Mississippi.

00:03:25.940 I said, okay, that's not that far, but to celebrate the anniversary, it is.

00:03:30.180 Oh, yeah.

00:03:31.180 I think an anniversary is important, man.

00:03:33.120 No doubt.

00:03:33.480 I celebrated mine Wednesday.

00:03:35.440 Oh, you did?

00:03:36.040 Yeah, no doubt.

00:03:36.760 Nice.

00:03:37.060 What'd y'all do?

00:03:38.140 Man, four seasons after four seasons.

00:03:40.060 Really?

00:03:40.340 Yeah.

00:03:40.940 It was your four after four seasons.

00:03:42.740 Oh, that's how you do it?

00:03:43.660 No doubt.

00:03:43.960 We did it right.

00:03:44.660 Wow.

00:03:45.040 So I guess you got to find something that rhymes each time, you think?

00:03:48.440 Or, like, for fifth, what do you have to do then?

00:03:51.420 Cinco de Mayo.

00:03:52.660 Cinco de Mayo.

00:03:53.980 That's my birthday.

00:03:55.220 Oh, it is?

00:03:56.060 Yeah.

00:03:56.480 Oh, you can't mix them then?

00:03:57.980 Yeah, nah.

00:03:58.980 Yeah, what else?

00:03:59.660 Yeah, I grew up not far across the lake, man.

00:04:02.840 So I'm from this area.

00:04:04.660 Covington, right?

00:04:05.360 Yeah.

00:04:05.800 Yeah.

00:04:06.460 You been over there?

00:04:07.280 Well, I've driven over there to go to Alabama.

00:04:10.460 Oh, yeah.

00:04:11.120 I'm from Birmingham.

00:04:12.060 Best man.

00:04:12.340 Oh, yeah.

00:04:13.120 Yeah.

00:04:14.020 Yeah.

00:04:14.480 What was it like in your town growing up?

00:04:15.860 Pretty small area?

00:04:17.000 Yeah, pretty small.

00:04:18.440 Intimate.

00:04:19.500 But we had, like, a lot of celebrities.

00:04:21.880 Not celebrities, but some of the greatest athletes there.

00:04:24.200 Like, Bo Jackson.

00:04:25.740 Like, D'Amico Rimes, who coached for Houston, Texas.

00:04:28.440 Titans, huh?

00:04:29.040 The Texans.

00:04:29.700 Texans, yeah.

00:04:30.240 Yeah.

00:04:30.540 So, like, Kerry Rose.

00:04:32.500 Corey White.

00:04:33.020 Like, we had a lot of, like, sports figures there.

00:04:36.020 Willie Mays was right down, like, about 15 minutes there from Fairfield.

00:04:39.260 Willie Mays?

00:04:40.040 Willie Mays, man.

00:04:40.760 Did you ever get to see him when you were a child?

00:04:42.760 Well, no.

00:04:43.680 He's a little older than me.

00:04:45.560 Right.

00:04:46.000 But even when you were a child.

00:04:47.180 Oh, he was already deceased or no?

00:04:49.120 No, he wasn't deceased.

00:04:49.980 But, like, I never got to meet him.

00:04:52.120 You think he'd drive down there and meet him?

00:04:54.100 Well, I played at, like, his baseball field.

00:04:56.360 Oh, you did?

00:04:56.800 Yeah, I have, yeah.

00:04:57.460 Oh, nice.

00:04:58.480 It was cool.

00:05:00.040 And, yeah, what was it like?

00:05:01.100 Did y'all have any pets growing up?

00:05:02.760 Yeah, I had two pets.

00:05:04.200 I had two pit bulls. 0.99

00:05:06.840 One name was, his name was Baghdad. 1.00

00:05:09.380 Oh, damn, man. 0.99

00:05:10.400 Yeah. 1.00

00:05:10.760 I mean, I think.

00:05:11.360 He was a service dog?

00:05:12.320 He was definitely a service dog.

00:05:14.360 But he was Baghdad because, I guess, the time that everything was going on.

00:05:18.240 And, like, when we first got him, he was really a rescue.

00:05:22.340 Like, he was into fighting and stuff.

00:05:24.000 And, like, he was all ate up and everything. 1.00

00:05:25.860 Oh, damn. 0.99

00:05:26.520 And he really just, like, he became my best friend. 1.00

00:05:30.740 Really?

00:05:31.120 You know what I'm saying?

00:05:31.440 Because, you know, like, a lot of people are scared of pit bulls.

00:05:34.100 Yeah.

00:05:34.420 And he was a little timid at first just because of what he went through.

00:05:37.480 And me and my dad was like, man, you know, he went through war.

00:05:40.080 You know, and at that time, you know, we were, like, it was during, like, the early 2000s

00:05:45.580 when a lot of things, a lot of events had happened.

00:05:47.840 In the Middle East.

00:05:48.480 Yeah, in the Middle East.

00:05:49.380 Yeah.

00:05:49.680 So, we named him Baghdad, you know. 0.99

00:05:52.460 Damn. 0.99

00:05:52.940 Yeah. 1.00

00:05:53.260 And another one was ICE.

00:05:54.700 Oh, now, ICE seemed like he'd been into some other stuff.

00:05:57.080 It was a she. 1.00

00:05:57.700 It was a she. 1.00

00:05:58.300 Okay.

00:05:58.700 I'm just saying, ICE seemed like he might have got off into the drug gang.

00:06:02.020 We got her from a, from a kid, from a, is it, is it a little or a kid, kitty?

00:06:05.900 I think it was one of them.

00:06:07.140 We got her from a kennel.

00:06:08.900 Oh, yeah.

00:06:09.300 So, she was a puppy.

00:06:10.900 And we had her, and she was just, she was feisty. 1.00

00:06:13.480 Really?

00:06:13.920 Yeah, she was feisty. 1.00

00:06:14.820 A lot of the, yeah.

00:06:15.900 A lot of women, females are overall. 1.00

00:06:18.120 And that's fine.

00:06:19.080 Yeah, it is.

00:06:19.660 Look, they got to.

00:06:20.340 To each his own.

00:06:21.020 Yeah.

00:06:21.360 To each his own.

00:06:21.820 To each his own.

00:06:21.840 Yeah, they got to be feisty, man.

00:06:23.200 No doubt.

00:06:23.380 Yeah, it seemed like you might have, did y'all have a cat or not?

00:06:25.960 You don't see a lot of, did y'all ever own a cat?

00:06:28.920 Nah, I'm not, I'm not a cat guy.

00:06:31.020 One of my best friends, I don't, like, he, he's a cat guy.

00:06:33.140 Uh-uh.

00:06:34.000 Yeah.

00:06:34.520 You don't see, I'm gonna, I, I, I think, you don't see a lot of brothers with cats either,

00:06:38.220 to be honest.

00:06:39.020 Nah, like, honestly, growing up, I used to see a lot of stray cats.

00:06:42.780 Because, like, in the house I grew in, we had a lot of, a lot of rats, like, in the

00:06:46.500 bottom of the house.

00:06:47.260 So, like, cats, they'll come and get them rats.

00:06:49.160 Like, it was really, like, I was a big fan of Tom and Jerry.

00:06:51.720 Yeah.

00:06:52.060 Like, that show.

00:06:52.680 And, like, it's like, I had real life Tom and Jerry moments.

00:06:55.220 The cats.

00:06:56.200 Like, we had pit bulls straight up in the back. 0.64

00:06:57.960 We had the cats running through.

00:06:59.100 Like, they was alley cats, too.

00:07:00.580 Like, they was something bad.

00:07:01.300 Because them rats, they was big.

00:07:02.420 They was swore. 1.00

00:07:03.040 Damn, you look down living on Noah's Ark, bro. 0.99

00:07:07.100 Hey, man, it was a lot of, it was a lot of species multiplying. 1.00

00:07:10.260 I'm trying to tell you, cockroaches, everything.

00:07:12.200 Oh, at night, you've turned it, yeah, you turn the lights off, you hear some romantic music

00:07:15.920 going.

00:07:16.180 You know what I'm saying?

00:07:17.560 Them animals are figuring it out, baby.

00:07:20.160 One of the most memorable things was the light bugs.

00:07:22.400 Do you remember light bugs?

00:07:23.240 Did y'all have light bugs?

00:07:24.000 I feel like they're extinct, bro.

00:07:25.420 I haven't seen any light bugs lately.

00:07:26.920 Well, I think there's so much light now that's in the cities.

00:07:29.280 Because in the day, they didn't have as much, you know, like, especially if you're in the

00:07:32.280 country, you're in a smaller environment.

00:07:34.360 There's not, you're not, people aren't running around with so much lights everywhere.

00:07:37.660 You might have a porch light, maybe a, like, a flood light by the garage.

00:07:41.220 Yeah.

00:07:41.540 So, right off in the distance, you would see them.

00:07:43.460 But now, I think also when you're in a city, if you see a light bug in a city, he lost.

00:07:48.860 He gotta be lost.

00:07:49.680 Yeah.

00:07:50.140 You know?

00:07:50.600 I mean, he ain't.

00:07:52.300 He probably dead.

00:07:53.060 He probably got hit by a windshield or something.

00:07:55.160 Like, it's tough.

00:07:55.420 He got knocked off and now he lost in the city.

00:07:57.920 Yeah.

00:07:58.080 That'd be a good movie, wouldn't it?

00:07:59.500 A lost light bug.

00:08:00.580 But they call them fireflies.

00:08:01.700 Like, I never understood.

00:08:03.140 A lost fly.

00:08:03.860 But I think fireflies are maybe the ones that are out there popping off.

00:08:07.140 They shooting, bro.

00:08:07.880 I think light bugs are the ones that's out there really spreading the word, I feel like.

00:08:13.140 Yeah.

00:08:14.000 Because a light bug was amazing.

00:08:15.380 When you were a kid and you saw a light bug.

00:08:17.260 Yeah, it was.

00:08:17.880 Because you didn't think it was anything in the dark.

00:08:20.040 And then, shoot.

00:08:20.600 No, you're seeing. 0.92

00:08:21.560 Like, literally.

00:08:22.120 And they, like, glow.

00:08:23.280 And they come back.

00:08:24.000 They go dark and glow.

00:08:25.020 And, like, you end up following them.

00:08:26.320 It's like, you know, it's like at a kid, you know how you practice slow motion stuff?

00:08:30.060 It's like you would mimic the light bug just going slow, just seeing them just fly.

00:08:34.060 And they move, like, so subtle.

00:08:35.900 And then they disappear.

00:08:37.100 And you run back and tell your parents.

00:08:38.460 And that's when your mom usually, like, say to the dad, I think he's been smoking dark.

00:08:44.680 But it was so many.

00:08:45.700 Like, we used to get flooded with light bugs.

00:08:47.300 You know what I'm saying?

00:08:47.860 We had to watch out for the rats and the cats.

00:08:49.640 But we'd get flooded with light bugs.

00:08:50.960 Yeah.

00:08:51.280 I remember they had.

00:08:52.540 Because we would try to catch them in a jar.

00:08:54.000 If my grandmother would give us, like, a little jar, like a mason jar or whatever.

00:08:58.460 We'd try to catch them in there.

00:08:59.540 Yeah.

00:09:00.060 But then they'd die if you don't put the air in it.

00:09:02.180 Yeah, they'd die.

00:09:02.800 Yeah, we'd just catch them in our hands and let them go.

00:09:05.140 We'd end up squishing them.

00:09:07.560 It'd be sad.

00:09:08.460 But some of my younger cousins, they would just take the light out of there. 1.00

00:09:11.580 Like, just kill them. 0.99

00:09:12.440 Just pull it out. 1.00

00:09:13.420 Oh, dang.

00:09:14.240 Somebody grew up to be an electrician, probably.

00:09:16.320 Most likely.

00:09:17.520 Because that's it.

00:09:18.160 I mean, that is intense behavior.

00:09:20.000 To pull the light out of it.

00:09:21.580 I don't think they had a lot of electricity.

00:09:24.300 Okay.

00:09:24.620 I think they were pulling their soul out.

00:09:26.360 It was the light.

00:09:26.940 If something's flying around and they just got about half a wad on them.

00:09:32.660 Yeah.

00:09:33.180 And you'd love it.

00:09:34.140 You gotta take it.

00:09:35.540 Like, put it on top of your head.

00:09:36.540 Like, ding.

00:09:36.900 I had an idea to take this from you.

00:09:38.680 Oh, that's wild, man.

00:09:42.480 Yeah, I love stuff like that.

00:09:44.200 I loved being like a child.

00:09:46.160 Because every experience was so new.

00:09:49.120 Everything when I was a kid was new, man.

00:09:51.340 That's one thing that I really miss.

00:09:53.580 Like, you're just so innocent as a kid.

00:09:56.160 Like, not much heartbreak.

00:09:57.760 Not much real failure.

00:09:59.360 You know, everything is just a new experience to you.

00:10:01.440 Like, you always know.

00:10:02.180 Like, if I fall down, I'm getting right back up.

00:10:03.640 I'm continuing to play.

00:10:05.100 I feel like when we were young, like, everyone was outside.

00:10:07.780 You know, it wasn't like a video game time or anything like that.

00:10:11.340 Like, we was outside playing.

00:10:12.500 We didn't know other people.

00:10:13.560 We were getting into fights.

00:10:14.420 You know what I'm saying?

00:10:15.080 Yeah.

00:10:15.460 Looking, looking.

00:10:15.980 Who stole my cousin's bike?

00:10:17.260 Like, we going on real, like, search hunts.

00:10:20.000 Like, who stole my cousin's bike?

00:10:21.560 Yeah.

00:10:21.900 And stuff like that.

00:10:22.320 And then it was your other cousin.

00:10:23.640 Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

00:10:24.740 Your other cousin.

00:10:25.440 Yeah, I know.

00:10:26.020 He liked that.

00:10:26.500 Who was actually, like, your true blood cousin.

00:10:29.400 I know, bro.

00:10:29.960 You know what I'm saying?

00:10:30.480 Because your uncle had another lady up the street that you didn't know about. 1.00

00:10:34.900 And that was what it was, man.

00:10:36.480 Right.

00:10:36.800 They met through choir, and that's what it was, man.

00:10:39.280 That's all it was.

00:10:39.680 Singing will bring people together.

00:10:41.060 It does.

00:10:42.680 Yeah, I loved, like, little neighborhood stuff when you had your friends and you would go outside and see them.

00:10:49.900 I loved stuff like that.

00:10:51.340 We played a lot of football outside.

00:10:52.980 We played in the street, even, too.

00:10:55.680 Yeah.

00:10:56.060 You know?

00:10:57.120 Did y'all play, like, throw them up, bust them up?

00:10:59.620 Like, what did y'all play?

00:11:00.460 Two-hand touch?

00:11:01.240 We would play the game where somebody throws it up, and then you just run and hit them.

00:11:04.940 Yeah.

00:11:06.080 Yeah. 0.90

00:11:06.660 Throw them up, bust them up. 0.91

00:11:07.560 Bruh.

00:11:08.040 Yeah.

00:11:08.840 Yeah, different.

00:11:09.620 Yeah, they.

00:11:10.440 And we lost some people.

00:11:11.780 Did you have the same hair?

00:11:12.940 Like, because I feel like your hair is built for, like, that type of game.

00:11:16.120 Oh, yeah.

00:11:16.700 But my hair would stand out.

00:11:18.140 It would stand out?

00:11:18.700 Yeah.

00:11:18.860 My hair would catch an out route, bro.

00:11:20.260 I didn't even got to raise my hand, bro.

00:11:21.560 Man, it looked solid.

00:11:23.420 You know what I'm saying?

00:11:24.540 Thanks, bro.

00:11:25.120 Yeah, you can't throw a man through that.

00:11:26.340 Oh, no, bro.

00:11:27.180 No doubt.

00:11:27.840 Oh, yeah.

00:11:28.520 I got, yeah.

00:11:29.300 This is really some Jalen Ramsey hair, I feel like.

00:11:33.660 It's a real.

00:11:34.500 I got some shutdown corners on this thing.

00:11:36.440 Oh, you do.

00:11:37.200 Lockdown.

00:11:37.820 Thank you.

00:11:38.220 And that he is.

00:11:41.820 You have a lot going on, man, in your life right now, huh?

00:11:44.920 Yeah, I do.

00:11:45.540 I do.

00:11:45.980 Bless, man.

00:11:47.100 You're going to be moving, man.

00:11:48.640 Yeah.

00:11:49.040 No, I am.

00:11:50.220 I am.

00:11:50.620 And I'm happy.

00:11:51.960 I'm happy for increase.

00:11:54.980 I think, like, that's the biggest part.

00:11:56.200 You know how it is, like, any part of your life, like, you get to choose how you view

00:12:00.100 it, you know?

00:12:00.900 And obviously, you being from this city, you know how much this city is, how this city

00:12:04.240 rocked with, like, their football team.

00:12:06.340 Oh, man.

00:12:06.880 Man, I'm excited for Cleveland, bro.

00:12:08.760 Like, I'm excited to get to work.

00:12:10.940 I'm excited to have an opportunity to be at a, you know, a story franchise and bring them

00:12:16.780 hope.

00:12:17.360 Yeah.

00:12:18.160 Yeah.

00:12:18.440 How do you, what is, like, the process as that happens?

00:12:22.040 Like, how do you find out that you're going to go somewhere else?

00:12:26.780 What's that process like?

00:12:28.140 It's like a...

00:12:28.960 Do you hear about it first or it really is a surprise?

00:12:31.140 It's like a vetting process where, you know, you got some type of inclination, like, when

00:12:35.220 you've been in a place for four years and you haven't, like, moved up in, like, look

00:12:39.380 at it as a company.

00:12:40.140 If you haven't moved up in a company and year by year, like, you're moving down, like, eventually,

00:12:45.580 like, you're about to get replaced or you're about to be out of there or, like, they're

00:12:48.980 not going to invest in you or they don't think that you're worthy of an investment,

00:12:53.700 you know?

00:12:53.880 So you go and look for other opportunities.

00:12:56.600 And the best thing is when an opportunity presents itself to you because then you can grasp

00:13:00.920 it, you know what I'm saying?

00:13:01.900 When you are in a position where, like, you are starving for opportunities, like, that's

00:13:05.500 a little bit more challenging, you know?

00:13:07.060 So this one, in this case, man, it was a great opportunity with Cleveland and, you know,

00:13:12.840 you got agents and you have relationships that you build with these coaches and GMs, general

00:13:17.480 managers of the team.

00:13:18.620 Yeah.

00:13:19.140 And that...

00:13:20.040 You feel good about it there?

00:13:21.200 Yeah, I feel good about it because how I view it, like, bro, it's the opportunity.

00:13:25.960 It's the opportunity to impact.

00:13:27.160 It's the opportunity to increase.

00:13:28.260 It's the opportunity to better myself.

00:13:30.120 Right.

00:13:30.140 You know, and I know I'm a strong component of, like, change is what you make it, bro.

00:13:36.380 Yeah.

00:13:36.940 You know what I'm saying?

00:13:37.440 Sometimes we need that shift, that paradigm shift to, like, challenge us, to put us in

00:13:42.500 a new environment, you know?

00:13:43.700 Mm.

00:13:44.380 Yeah, I feel that a lot, man.

00:13:45.980 I feel that even as, like, there are moments in my own life and career where things have

00:13:49.740 been going well.

00:13:50.580 Mm-hmm.

00:13:51.500 And then there's moments where things feel like they haven't, my perception of things

00:13:56.300 is that they haven't been going well.

00:13:57.800 Mm-hmm.

00:13:58.480 And, man, sometimes I get scared of how I behave when things aren't going well.

00:14:04.080 Yeah.

00:14:04.260 Or the feelings that come up, the fears that, like, take over how I operate or, yeah, I'll

00:14:11.920 get into, like, not as much a desperation mode because I've had some experience with some

00:14:17.160 of it now.

00:14:17.720 Mm-hmm.

00:14:18.000 But I do get into, yeah, the first thing to leave is my faith or confidence that things

00:14:24.060 are going to be okay a lot of times.

00:14:26.140 Yeah.

00:14:26.500 You know, because it feels scary.

00:14:27.780 Well, I think, like, the fear part is that's what grabs you, you know?

00:14:33.200 That's what puts you in that fight or flight stage.

00:14:35.600 But when you said faith, like, faith is the first thing that you should hold on to because

00:14:39.640 faith is really the things that you believe in that you have not seen.

00:14:43.200 Like, typically, when you experience pain, it's something that you have experienced.

00:14:45.980 You've seen it, it's happened to you.

00:14:48.700 And I think that's why I'm always in this position because my faith allows me to hope

00:14:54.380 for more, to want more, right, and, like, and to dig in even deeper, you know?

00:15:00.260 I feel like when you are, like, when you think of a seed, right, everybody look at a seed,

00:15:05.580 like, let's do an acorn.

00:15:08.440 Mm-hmm.

00:15:08.860 Like, you look at an acorn.

00:15:10.260 It's a seed.

00:15:10.780 It's a seed.

00:15:11.500 It's a good seed, too.

00:15:12.520 An acorn is starting to oak trees.

00:15:14.600 You know what I'm saying?

00:15:14.980 Did you know that?

00:15:15.400 That's a good point.

00:15:16.300 Right?

00:15:16.760 So that seed, but for that seed to grow into what it needs to become, it has to, it has

00:15:22.280 one, it has to break.

00:15:24.180 Like, that seed has to be broken, right?

00:15:26.240 And then it has to get rooted.

00:15:27.840 So before it sprouts up, it has to go down into the earth and establish a foundation.

00:15:33.640 So when you think about challenges, right, it's telling you, like, it's the Lord telling

00:15:37.220 you, like, hey, man, like, we're going to have to have a shift.

00:15:39.260 You got to get rooted in a real foundation, which is me, right?

00:15:43.600 Which is the Lord, which is Jesus.

00:15:45.240 Oh, yeah.

00:15:46.100 Right?

00:15:46.340 That's your foundation.

00:15:47.400 Yeah.

00:15:47.700 And before you can grow up, right, you're going to have some little seedlings.

00:15:51.120 Like, you're going to have a little cracks in here.

00:15:52.500 You might have a little bird trying to come and snatch you out. 0.93

00:15:56.100 Yeah.

00:15:56.320 But through that trial, right, you're going to be able to turn into this beautiful oak

00:16:00.780 tree, and you're going to be able to be fruitful and give to others through your testimony,

00:16:05.440 through your experiences.

00:16:07.080 And when you view it from that perspective, now that fear isn't as frightening.

00:16:12.020 Yeah.

00:16:12.500 You know what I'm saying?

00:16:13.220 Yeah, no, I feel that.

00:16:14.340 And when we talk about, like, as kids, the reason we're feeling is that as kids, because

00:16:19.220 we know we're going to get another opportunity.

00:16:21.540 We know, okay, if we get scrubbed on the football field, okay, we got tomorrow.

00:16:25.300 Right.

00:16:25.520 You know what I'm saying?

00:16:26.320 But as adults, those little pains that we get, you know, those little failures, they

00:16:31.800 eat at us, and we start questioning ourselves, like, wow, like, are they better than me?

00:16:38.160 Or, like, am I missing something that I used to have?

00:16:42.220 But as a kid, just like, man, I'm proud of the moment.

00:16:44.320 Like, we out here again, y'all.

00:16:45.580 Like, we live and local.

00:16:46.760 You know what I'm saying?

00:16:47.300 Like, I'm here.

00:16:48.460 But as adults, it's those conditions, man.

00:16:51.500 Yeah, the conditions change because when you're a child, you really have so much blind

00:16:55.580 faith, don't you?

00:16:56.840 Even if you don't, even if as a kid, you don't perceive it as faith in a higher power, you

00:17:01.060 just feel it as faith that you're going to have another opportunity that you've got the

00:17:05.320 next day.

00:17:06.900 Wow.

00:17:07.100 It's really crazy how much that changes over time.

00:17:09.700 Because, yeah, it's the conditions that change.

00:17:11.920 Yeah.

00:17:12.140 And then it's...

00:17:13.460 It's choices.

00:17:14.000 It's decisions.

00:17:14.660 Yeah.

00:17:14.820 Especially as an adult.

00:17:16.120 As a kid, you don't, like, you're making decisions, but you're making decisions off of

00:17:20.620 default, right?

00:17:22.060 As you get older and as you get more intentional with your work, like, you work your tail off.

00:17:27.880 Yeah.

00:17:28.080 And you got a strategic plan to what you're doing.

00:17:30.700 Like, it's some people that think they're working, but they don't, they're just working

00:17:34.020 off default, like, off of every day.

00:17:35.840 Like, I'm waking up, I'm going to work.

00:17:37.100 Like, they're not designing nothing throughout their day to actually have an impact on their

00:17:42.180 life that they've been given.

00:17:44.980 Yeah.

00:17:45.420 That's kind of interesting, huh?

00:17:47.180 Some people don't have the opportunity.

00:17:48.900 Some people, they just don't want to accept the challenge probably either.

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00:20:14.580 So having won a national championship, having won a Heisman trophy, and having been a starter

00:20:23.300 that has all types of accolades, interesting and powerful in the NFL, what is it like to

00:20:31.780 be a backup quarterback?

00:20:33.340 What do people not know about being a backup?

00:20:36.320 That's some of the tougher things, probably.

00:20:37.840 I think one of the most challenging things is you have to prepare as if you're the starter.

00:20:42.440 Because the thing about the quarterback is there's only one person.

00:20:45.440 Every other position has depth.

00:20:48.240 They have someone else that's aligned with them that's doing essentially the same thing

00:20:51.960 that they're doing.

00:20:52.880 There's only one person on the field playing quarterback.

00:20:56.580 And there's three people, maybe four, in a room.

00:20:59.640 So all those people in the room are preparing for that specific role.

00:21:04.400 That's wild because other jobs don't have a backup.

00:21:08.460 You don't have a backup mayor and he's sitting in the next room.

00:21:12.100 He's in there signing documents and is like practicing cutting ribbons with big scissors.

00:21:18.260 Or you don't have a backup waiter.

00:21:20.340 You know, like if your waiter is doing, you know, and he's in a parking lot, he's just

00:21:23.800 running fake food out to people and just, you know.

00:21:27.100 Yeah, so that pressure isn't right there with other jobs.

00:21:30.000 No, it's not.

00:21:31.000 But it's, you know, pressure is for the unprepared.

00:21:34.180 That's why you got to stay prepared.

00:21:36.100 Like in any role that you do, but specifically as the backup, you got to prepare like you're

00:21:39.780 the starter.

00:21:40.700 You know what I'm saying?

00:21:41.140 That's why I'm always going to view myself as a starter because I know like it happened

00:21:44.940 to me, it happened to some of the greatest, like you are one play in the sport that we

00:21:50.020 play from your career being over, from you losing your job or you becoming irrelevant.

00:21:56.900 Oh, Lord, baby.

00:21:58.060 You know what I'm saying?

00:21:58.660 Like that's like that is the sport.

00:22:00.220 That's the business that we in.

00:22:01.440 That's the sport that we play.

00:22:02.700 So I approach all that with gratitude, bro.

00:22:05.480 Like I'm grateful for each day.

00:22:06.700 I'm grateful to prepare, right?

00:22:08.480 Like I'm going to support whoever is in front of me.

00:22:10.940 I'm going to support all my teammates.

00:22:12.320 But brother, I know what's real and what's real is any moment, anytime, any place, anything

00:22:19.400 can happen.

00:22:20.140 Dang.

00:22:20.620 You know what I'm saying?

00:22:21.340 Oh, anytime, anything.

00:22:24.140 Come on.

00:22:25.780 Man, yeah, I guess that's so true.

00:22:27.620 Do you see other people don't keep that same energy?

00:22:31.300 Like is it a, because perspective is so much a life I learn is about perspective, man.

00:22:36.400 Yeah.

00:22:37.020 If you could show up really with a gratitude and really with a perspective that there's possibility

00:22:42.040 at any moment, that changes everything.

00:22:45.260 Yeah.

00:22:45.440 You become a beacon.

00:22:46.380 You become a light bug for other people at that point.

00:22:49.340 No, well, what we call to be, you know, the light of the earth, you know.

00:22:55.180 So I think when you're in that role, it's not your job to see like, are they doing what

00:23:01.760 I'm doing or am I doing what they're doing?

00:23:03.880 It's your job to see, man, how can I perfect what I'm doing to encourage somebody else to

00:23:07.620 perfect what they're doing so they can be their best self.

00:23:10.540 Wow.

00:23:11.040 You know, like, and I think that we get so much, like, we all competing, right? 0.67

00:23:15.540 We all, we all chasing this, this rat race.

00:23:17.880 We all chasing something that's greater than us.

00:23:19.640 Right.

00:23:20.340 But a lot of times we, we're so busy looking at other people running their race instead

00:23:26.360 of focusing on the race that you got to run.

00:23:28.500 Yeah.

00:23:28.860 And I think one thing that I've learned through experience, because experience, like experience

00:23:33.840 through like certain conditions, circumstances, and facts, like that's what creates perspective.

00:23:38.840 You know, that's what gives people that wisdom, you know, because they, they went through

00:23:42.560 something, you know?

00:23:43.480 Yeah.

00:23:43.880 Uh, and, and, and that's why, you know, I, I always, I'm always hanging around, you know,

00:23:48.560 like you saw, you saw, I call my granddad.

00:23:50.240 I'm always hanging around people that are, that are wise, that are older because their

00:23:54.320 experiences are, it's freaking gold, bro.

00:23:57.080 Oh yeah.

00:23:57.560 Like they've been through so much stuff and they've overcome so many different things.

00:24:01.040 Oh yeah.

00:24:01.760 Bro, the, the, the, the slowest way to learn is through your experience.

00:24:06.220 So why not pick somebody else's brain?

00:24:08.500 Why not learn or hang around somebody that's an old, old head? 0.99

00:24:11.380 Get a senior citizen. 0.96

00:24:12.080 Yeah.

00:24:12.340 Bring a couple of owls with you.

00:24:13.400 Yeah.

00:24:13.700 Senior citizen.

00:24:14.460 Yeah.

00:24:14.560 That's person.

00:24:15.140 You know what I'm saying?

00:24:15.700 Yeah.

00:24:15.980 I use that all the time.

00:24:18.000 Yeah.

00:24:18.180 Get you a couple of owls, baby. 0.88

00:24:19.580 That's what you need.

00:24:20.420 You know?

00:24:21.040 My wife, she a rice owl. 1.00

00:24:22.640 Oh, she went to rice?

00:24:23.520 Yeah.

00:24:23.660 She went to rice.

00:24:24.260 Yeah.

00:24:24.560 Oh, wow.

00:24:25.280 I saw, oh yeah.

00:24:25.900 LSU beat them the other day.

00:24:27.040 I saw them in the women's, in the women's game.

00:24:28.720 They did.

00:24:28.960 But for rice though, I think rice just happened to, they got to play LSU.

00:24:32.140 You know what I'm saying?

00:24:32.360 I mean, look, they're a starch.

00:24:33.900 Yeah.

00:24:34.560 That is true.

00:24:36.600 You know what I'm saying?

00:24:37.060 And a lot of people, they used to be in a recipe and suddenly.

00:24:40.380 Right.

00:24:40.780 You know what I'm saying?

00:24:41.700 That's what I'm saying.

00:24:42.440 They're actually in the mix.

00:24:43.680 You know?

00:24:44.600 When you get gumbo, you ain't thinking about the rice.

00:24:46.680 You're thinking about the gumbo.

00:24:47.100 Oh, the game has changed.

00:24:48.520 That's the Super Bowl for them if they end up in a gumbo. 0.99

00:24:51.540 Right.

00:24:51.780 It is.

00:24:52.260 You got to play with Drew Brees for a season, right?

00:24:56.780 And Drew, I got to meet Drew one time, right?

00:24:59.320 So, Drew Brees is an intense dude, man.

00:25:02.940 He's locked in.

00:25:04.340 You know, you could see that he, you know, it was at a dinner party.

00:25:07.960 And you could see while he's talking to me behind me, he sees the whole dinner scenario.

00:25:13.800 You know, like he sees like, you know, the waiter is in the flat.

00:25:18.080 You know, the bus boy gave up on his route early.

00:25:20.900 The strong safeties, rolling silverware, the maitre d's out of position.

00:25:25.960 You could see he's got a lot going on, you know?

00:25:29.080 What do you get to learn from like somebody that's that, like a hall of fame?

00:25:33.560 Like, what is the difference in being around somebody like that?

00:25:38.480 I think one thing about Drew is like he was very observant.

00:25:42.100 He was very detailed and he was very intentional with everything that he did.

00:25:46.020 Like, so he had a mission for everything that he was doing.

00:25:48.540 It was on purpose.

00:25:49.380 Ah, so real purposeful.

00:25:51.500 Yeah, so I knew what his intent was for each day because he knew what his intent was.

00:25:56.460 That's how he led.

00:25:57.680 He led by example.

00:25:58.700 He led by, you know, showing you like this is what I'm about.

00:26:01.660 Either you're going to join or you're going to get left behind, right?

00:26:05.040 And I think that's why people follow him because they knew his direction.

00:26:08.880 But I think just sitting back from afar, learning just the X's and O's, being able to see the relationship with him in his longtime head coach, Sean Payton, but also reading books about Drew Brees, understanding the perspective, understanding that he went through one of his most challenging times, you know, when they won the Super Bowl.

00:26:30.220 You know, I'll let you look up what happened, but he had certain circumstances, conditions, and facts that happened in his life.

00:26:40.760 Even in his NFL career, early on in his career, a team didn't believe in him.

00:26:45.340 So he continued to grow.

00:26:48.620 He didn't point fingers, blame anybody else.

00:26:51.900 He continued to overcome the naysayers, you know, and he set that standard every single day.

00:26:58.180 And like, and when you're around someone like that, like you gain that perspective.

00:27:02.000 And like, and that was a year that actually, like, I was so grateful for that year to sit behind a Hall of Fame quarterback, learn how he moved and everything.

00:27:11.060 Because me and Drew Brees are two, like, we are two separate, like, he is from one side of the block, I'm from the other side of the block.

00:27:18.940 Yeah.

00:27:19.360 So being able to be around him every single day and just be in his presence, you know what I'm saying?

00:27:26.180 Oh, yeah.

00:27:26.860 See how he's living, you know what I'm saying?

00:27:28.380 What you eating over the Drew Brees?

00:27:30.380 Yeah, what you snacking on, Drew?

00:27:31.520 You know what I'm saying?

00:27:32.160 Drew got him a Rice Krispie treat over there.

00:27:34.460 You know what I'm saying?

00:27:34.580 What you having?

00:27:35.240 And one of the greatest things, like, that I learned about Drew Brees is, like, he helped me with food because his meals used to look so bad.

00:27:47.280 I used to question, like, are we in New Orleans?

00:27:49.500 Like, we don't got no chef that can cook Drew Brees?

00:27:52.500 Something that look better than this?

00:27:54.320 Yes.

00:27:54.780 You know what I'm saying?

00:27:55.340 Like, but he was so strict with the way he ate.

00:27:58.140 You know, he was so intentional with everything that he did.

00:28:01.300 Wow.

00:28:01.620 And I was like, okay, that's the sacrifice that's allowing you to be the elite of the elite.

00:28:07.460 You know what I'm saying?

00:28:07.980 Those are the disciplines that you're willing to take to be in a city like New Orleans and not eat the stuff.

00:28:15.440 You know what I'm saying?

00:28:16.060 Not put that stuff in your body.

00:28:17.580 Tony Sasher is on there.

00:28:18.540 You know what I'm saying?

00:28:19.460 Like, no seasoning, like, at all.

00:28:21.400 I don't even think.

00:28:22.540 He probably used salt and pepper once.

00:28:24.540 Oh, Lord.

00:28:25.140 That was probably on Christmas Eve.

00:28:26.480 You know what I'm saying?

00:28:26.920 They come with everything.

00:28:28.260 You know what I'm saying?

00:28:28.960 I know.

00:28:29.560 Imagine, yeah.

00:28:30.280 Not even, oh.

00:28:32.200 But no, he was an amazing human being.

00:28:33.760 That's some paprika or something.

00:28:34.200 Get him a spice rack for Christmas.

00:28:36.540 Yeah, for real.

00:28:37.360 Changes the life up a little.

00:28:38.940 No doubt.

00:28:39.460 But you're right, that level of commitment, though, because also a lot of salt gets into your joints and stuff like that, especially as you get older.

00:28:45.780 That's a thing that happens to people, you know, I think.

00:28:48.060 But yeah, I guess interesting to see that level of commitment and the amount of commitment we feel like we have to make to ourselves.

00:28:55.780 Because some people hold themselves to such a high standard that if they don't make a certain amount of commitment to themselves, then they don't feel complete.

00:29:04.820 Some people may hold themselves to a different standard, and it's fine, whatever your standard is.

00:29:10.300 But we all have this level, I think, of where if we hold ourselves there and we meet ourselves there, then we feel complete, you know?

00:29:18.820 Yeah, I know it is great to challenge yourself and to push new limits and go to different heights, you know what I'm saying, and be tough on yourself.

00:29:28.820 But you also got to give yourself some grace.

00:29:30.900 Like, that's where that balance come in, you know what I'm saying?

00:29:33.680 Like, you can't be your worst enemy and your biggest fan, you know what I'm saying?

00:29:40.320 Dude, that's how I get.

00:29:41.720 You know what I'm saying?

00:29:42.460 I turn into my worst.

00:29:43.780 Yeah, it's like I'm trying so much, I end up being my worst enemy, bro.

00:29:47.680 But you being two different people.

00:29:50.100 You know, I feel like we talk to ourselves more than anybody else talk to us.

00:29:54.060 Yeah.

00:29:54.500 So you got to give yourself that grace, man.

00:29:56.100 You got to speak life into you more than anybody else is going to be speaking life into you.

00:29:59.660 Because I guarantee you, somebody else, they care about theyself more than they care about you.

00:30:04.700 Yeah.

00:30:05.700 So if you down and you all the time, how is that going to make you feel?

00:30:10.260 Down, depressed.

00:30:11.960 Oh, my goodness.

00:30:12.540 Now I got to do this.

00:30:13.320 Now I got to do that.

00:30:14.020 Now I got to revert to this.

00:30:15.540 Versus like, man, like, okay.

00:30:17.480 I didn't fail.

00:30:18.480 Okay.

00:30:18.720 I'm not the only person to fail.

00:30:20.680 You know what I'm saying?

00:30:21.200 Okay.

00:30:21.400 How I get up out of this?

00:30:22.720 You know what I'm saying?

00:30:23.160 Who I need to talk to to get up out of this?

00:30:24.820 You know what I'm saying?

00:30:25.820 Like.

00:30:26.500 My lawyer usually.

00:30:29.500 Hopefully we won't have to get to no legal access.

00:30:30.940 That's what he said.

00:30:32.120 We're trying to stay out of some legal access, man.

00:30:34.640 You got to stay up out of them.

00:30:36.540 I'm just talking about self-esteem.

00:30:38.760 No.

00:30:39.260 Like what Cat Williams said, it's called self-esteem.

00:30:43.020 You know what I'm saying?

00:30:43.600 Like, come on.

00:30:44.200 You got to lift yourself up, man.

00:30:45.560 You got to give yourself life.

00:30:47.500 That's a good point, huh?

00:30:49.540 Yeah.

00:30:49.780 I think I wonder.

00:30:51.080 Yeah.

00:30:51.260 Sometimes it's hard for me to see what the conversation I'm having with myself is.

00:30:55.240 Does that make any sense?

00:30:56.200 Yeah.

00:30:56.380 That makes a lot of sense.

00:30:57.260 Because we, like, I'll say it like this.

00:31:01.260 Why do we give other people better advice than we give ourselves?

00:31:04.060 I know.

00:31:04.580 It's like we counsel ourselves out because we don't listen to ourselves.

00:31:08.820 So when we not listen to ourselves, how do we expect to hear ourselves when we in this funk?

00:31:14.360 Or we in this, like, this mold where we, like, we about to turn up.

00:31:19.160 We about to go in or somebody hit.

00:31:20.840 We mad.

00:31:21.640 You know what I'm saying?

00:31:22.040 We not hearing ourselves.

00:31:23.260 We just reacting in a default.

00:31:25.160 We not being on purpose.

00:31:26.300 We not being intentional.

00:31:28.520 You know what I'm saying?

00:31:29.040 We just, like a little kid, we having an anxiety attack or we spazzing out.

00:31:33.760 You know, all of us have those moments.

00:31:35.920 But the ones that are able to, you know, look at those moments, reflect on those moments,

00:31:42.640 and build off those moments and not let those moments destroy them,

00:31:46.420 like, they're the ones that end up being successful.

00:31:48.980 It's interesting, huh?

00:31:50.240 So much of that war is really, it's a peace talk,

00:31:52.940 which you have to bring yourself to the table.

00:31:55.760 That's the tough, I just have, sometimes I have tough times in that moment of, like,

00:32:00.200 this is how I feel right now, and instead of bringing myself to the table,

00:32:04.540 I'll just walk out and start, you know, executing a plan.

00:32:10.400 You know what I'm saying?

00:32:11.380 And it's not really, I haven't really brought myself into a place of, like,

00:32:14.720 okay, how do I do this best for me and for others and for, you know.

00:32:18.220 So, yeah, sometimes that's a thing that I struggle with a lot sometimes.

00:32:22.960 Yeah, man, sometimes you just got to be led by the Spirit, man.

00:32:25.800 Like, one of my favorite verses is trusting the Lord with your whole heart

00:32:28.220 and lean down into your own understandings.

00:32:31.280 Acknowledge the Lord in all your ways, and He shall direct your paths.

00:32:35.440 Sometimes you got to really let go and let God.

00:32:37.540 Oh, yeah, the Lord is my GPS, baby.

00:32:39.520 For real, like, you have, but you have to be, you have to humble yourself.

00:32:43.420 Right.

00:32:43.960 And just be like, look, I really don't got no control of what just happened,

00:32:47.480 and let me give it up.

00:32:49.760 Let me give it up, man.

00:32:51.640 I know and sit there and do nothing.

00:32:53.180 I should be your therapist, man.

00:32:54.220 I feel like I got you over here, man.

00:32:55.560 You ready to lay down, you know what I'm saying?

00:32:57.120 I can sit here and speak life into you, brother.

00:32:58.920 What you need?

00:32:59.740 Oh, yeah.

00:33:00.420 Brother.

00:33:01.380 Bring it on me, brother.

00:33:03.720 Play a hymn.

00:33:04.580 You mindful.

00:33:06.580 Play a hymn.

00:33:08.100 Mama, pray for me.

00:33:08.880 What's that one?

00:33:09.420 It's a little light of mine.

00:33:11.920 I can still hear Mama's Prayers.

00:33:13.540 You ever hear that song?

00:33:14.920 Mama's Prayers?

00:33:15.720 That's an old one.

00:33:17.840 See if you can look that up.

00:33:19.220 Mama's Prayers.

00:33:20.340 I used to love this song, man.

00:33:23.920 Yeah, maybe that's it at the top.

00:33:26.120 Let me see what is that one.

00:33:32.020 I can remember as a child.

00:33:37.060 Back in Liberty, Texas.

00:33:38.880 At 131 Navigation Street.

00:33:43.420 I'm on.

00:33:45.540 At my grandmother's house.

00:33:48.620 Can I be in front of my house?

00:33:50.340 Always, huh?

00:33:51.080 Mama, that's what we called her. 1.00

00:33:53.840 And I can remember on Sunday mornings, if you were in Mama's house, you had to get up for a Sunday morning prayer.

00:34:00.520 Yeah, he's a little chatty moving forward.

00:34:06.760 Great guy, buddy.

00:34:07.620 It ain't nothing like a good gospel song with somebody not talking at the very beginning.

00:34:11.180 You know what I'm saying?

00:34:11.600 There we go.

00:34:11.900 I'm still here.

00:34:16.420 I'm still here.

00:34:18.800 Mama, Mama, praying.

00:34:21.960 And I'm proud that she prays.

00:34:24.220 I'm proud that she prays.

00:34:27.680 That you're keeping me day by day.

00:34:30.480 Oh, I'm still here, Mama, praying for me.

00:34:35.020 I love that one, man.

00:34:37.840 That's an old one I like.

00:34:38.820 No doubt.

00:34:40.100 How do you, like, if you're going to Cleveland, how do you guys find a new church?

00:34:44.340 What's that opportunity like?

00:34:46.180 Well, first you—

00:34:47.020 I just called it an opportunity because you showed me that.

00:34:49.380 Well, you connect with one, if you know somebody on the team that goes to a specific church.

00:34:57.100 But, like, this—Cleveland was actually even—it was easy.

00:35:00.700 Like, literally, when I signed with Cleveland, my dad had sent me, like, a YouTube of Pastor Vernon, like, at the Word Church.

00:35:07.540 And he has a huge church in Cleveland.

00:35:10.600 And I reached out to a couple friends, and, like, they connected me with him instantly, right?

00:35:15.760 So I was like, okay, well, I got Pastor Vernon already.

00:35:18.400 Like, so when you in that—when you getting fed, like, from other people and you being led and you walking with the Lord, like, it's like the Spirit find a way to connect you.

00:35:26.240 Like, with the right people.

00:35:27.620 Yeah.

00:35:28.840 So does—and what about, like, your family and stuff?

00:35:31.380 Was it tough to, like—did you find out you're going to go to Cleveland and you have to go home and tell your wife about it?

00:35:36.880 Or did y'all—

00:35:37.760 So it's a process.

00:35:38.840 It's a process of, like—and it was a very tough process, you know, because my wife is, like, that comfort.

00:35:45.560 When you get that comfort bug, like, it's like—it's tough to get anybody off their pivot foot when they comfortable.

00:35:50.960 When they good, where they at.

00:35:52.360 Oh, yeah.

00:35:52.840 It's very challenging.

00:35:54.040 That's me, too, man.

00:35:54.940 If I got me a—like a—give me a Powerade and sit me down somewhere, I'm—leave me be for a little bit.

00:36:01.440 Right.

00:36:01.660 Well, I think—and it's kind of like a—especially with this city, because my wife, her family is from the West Bank.

00:36:08.440 Oh, they're from the West Bank.

00:36:09.780 Yeah, from Algiers.

00:36:10.440 Oh, yeah.

00:36:10.840 I used to—

00:36:11.280 Like, so her dad, her dad from the West Bank, and, like—and she was so rooted.

00:36:15.160 She was so rooted here, had family here, and it was just tough.

00:36:20.560 Transition is always tough, you know, but, you know, we're one, and I want her to go with me.

00:36:25.540 You know, she was like, hey, can I stay here?

00:36:27.620 I'm like, yeah, baby, you can stay here if you want to, whatever you want.

00:36:29.880 But in the back of my mind, like, I don't need you to stay here.

00:36:31.920 Like, you with me, I got my babies, you know what I'm saying?

00:36:34.020 I need to see you and my babies.

00:36:35.420 You're my primary baby, you know.

00:36:38.520 Yeah, you the tallest baby.

00:36:39.960 Yeah, no doubt.

00:36:41.340 You the first baby.

00:36:43.120 You is, but it's tough, man.

00:36:45.680 It's tough having to move.

00:36:48.720 But whether it's tough, man, like, it's an opportunity, you know.

00:36:53.120 It's a chance to grow, you know.

00:36:55.440 You got to be comfortable being uncomfortable.

00:36:57.660 Yeah.

00:36:58.600 Yeah, that's true, man.

00:36:59.780 Comfort really can be your coffin, you know.

00:37:01.420 I know that it can get real easy.

00:37:04.380 Yeah, no doubt.

00:37:05.160 Challenging yourself, accepting challenges.

00:37:08.480 But then there is that fear that comes with it.

00:37:10.540 And it's like, how do I manage the fear while I'm doing this new thing,

00:37:15.020 while I'm going this way, right?

00:37:16.880 Yeah.

00:37:18.340 But Joe, he was telling me something.

00:37:20.980 Because I'm talking about, like, communicating with people.

00:37:24.240 And he was like, man, when you have that fear, it's better to do than be scared.

00:37:28.140 Because you're scared, you're just sitting there.

00:37:29.540 Yeah, you're just sitting there.

00:37:30.360 You're just thinking.

00:37:30.960 And, like, he told me, I was like, I was like, dang, Joe, like, what you doing?

00:37:35.580 Give me advice for, man.

00:37:37.240 Like, just do.

00:37:38.880 And once you start doing, like, eventually that fear starts being in that rearview mirror.

00:37:44.280 And you just leave it.

00:37:45.560 You leave it there.

00:37:46.880 Yeah, because a lot of times, man, there'll be opportunities.

00:37:48.840 And I get so fearful, I stand there like this, like Barry Sanders.

00:37:53.080 And then I don't pick nothing.

00:37:54.400 He went standing.

00:37:55.500 He was cut and moving and getting north and south.

00:37:58.800 But I was just a side to side.

00:38:00.800 You know, I just get like this.

00:38:01.700 And then the opportunities will disappear because I didn't make a choice.

00:38:05.220 Yeah.

00:38:05.760 That happens.

00:38:06.320 That's happened to me before in life, you know, where it's like I just, yeah.

00:38:10.000 Instead of just going.

00:38:11.460 Because if you go, you might realize one is wrong and you could get both of them and see and find the right one.

00:38:16.760 But when you were growing up, I know I've heard you talk about your dad was your coach, you know.

00:38:21.720 Yeah.

00:38:22.960 And you guys all lived at y'all's house, y'all's family.

00:38:25.540 Yeah.

00:38:26.320 Because, yeah, when I was growing up, a lot of black, a lot of my black friends didn't have families like that.

00:38:31.360 You know, they didn't have that family community.

00:38:34.120 Yeah.

00:38:34.520 You know.

00:38:36.360 Was that like, was it popular in your area that a lot of guys did?

00:38:41.900 A lot of young black men had that?

00:38:43.360 No, it wasn't.

00:38:44.040 It wasn't.

00:38:44.480 And does it make you feel almost like would other kids clown you because you had that?

00:38:50.140 Because like when I was growing up, like in our neighborhood, if you made some grades, good grades, a lot of kids would clown you.

00:38:58.480 They would just cook you, you know, for trying to do better.

00:39:02.780 Well, I was clowning more for being a nerd, making good grades. 0.60

00:39:05.780 Oh, seriously.

00:39:07.260 Then like having a dad in my life.

00:39:10.220 I'm very grateful to have my father in my life.

00:39:12.320 The sacrifices that he made for me has definitely allowed me to be where I'm at right now.

00:39:17.700 But even my dad, like he loved his mom.

00:39:21.880 He didn't have his dad in his life.

00:39:23.820 Yeah.

00:39:24.200 But the women in my life, my grandmother, well, my mother, my grandmothers, my grandmothers, my aunts, they were the inspiration.

00:39:33.260 Like because when you are in an environment and I had my uncles and stuff, my mom was the youngest 11.

00:39:38.420 And I grew up, I grew up in a home where, you know, my uncles and aunts, they all in the house and my cousins.

00:39:43.860 Everybody.

00:39:44.500 It was like 20 of us, you know.

00:39:45.740 But it was, it was perspective, you know, because like it's levels to it.

00:39:49.680 Like you got people that are 50, you got kids that are two, you got teenagers and you got like people that's going through a midlife crisis.

00:39:57.080 Yeah.

00:39:57.320 You know, so you learning, you learning from everybody and you picking from like, okay, I probably shouldn't be doing that.

00:40:04.180 You know what I'm saying?

00:40:04.640 Oh, grandma really don't condone that, but I kind of like that.

00:40:07.680 You know, so it's, it's a different variety of things.

00:40:10.200 It's a lot of education at once.

00:40:11.200 It's a lot of education.

00:40:11.920 It's a lot of stuff you to learn, but when you don't have guidance, when you don't have a father who is, even if they're not perfect, I think a lot of people get caught up in like, oh, like I expected you to be perfect.

00:40:22.280 But you realize like ain't nobody really perfect.

00:40:24.400 Like, even if your father or if you don't have a father, even the people around you, the men in your life, the women in your life aren't perfect.

00:40:30.980 You know what I'm saying?

00:40:31.440 They're human.

00:40:32.360 You're going to go through the same human experiences that they're going through.

00:40:35.940 Yeah.

00:40:36.540 You know?

00:40:37.040 So I never got picked on for having a daddy, but I definitely got picked on for being a nerd.

00:40:43.260 Yeah.

00:40:43.420 I never got to ask somebody, you know, because in, yeah.

00:40:46.840 I think a lot of people look at people like, like the reason you successful because you had a dad in your life.

00:40:52.680 I'm like, man, do you not know who LeBron James is?

00:40:55.720 Like he is known for not having a dad in his life and he LeBron James.

00:40:59.780 Like, but like a lot of people use that because of the, honestly, the built up emotion or the built up anger that they have against another man.

00:41:12.180 Right.

00:41:12.720 You know, like.

00:41:13.560 Oh, it's true, huh?

00:41:14.280 Like, like I think that, that kind of overshadows, like there's every, I think every kid deserves to have a daddy.

00:41:21.060 You know what I'm saying?

00:41:21.540 But it is hard out here in these streets.

00:41:23.620 You know what I'm saying?

00:41:24.100 Like people have different personalities that don't condone the father might be in the house.

00:41:28.840 The daddy might want to be in the baby life and the mama probably don't want him in the life or the mama not in the baby life. 1.00

00:41:34.840 You know, it's been, it's been, I was talking to a man in the sauna today, you know, and he was talking about how his daddy wins life and his mama died when he was 10.

00:41:42.940 I was like, brother, that's, that's tough.

00:41:45.000 That's challenging.

00:41:45.760 And he's still, he's still doing well for himself.

00:41:47.960 And he was talking about, we were talking about our kids.

00:41:50.800 Like, like how are we supposed to speak life into our kids?

00:41:53.240 He was telling me that he had a son that was 10 and he loved video games and social media.

00:41:58.200 You know, he said he had another son that had those 14 had down syndrome.

00:42:02.040 He had a step, a step that I don't want to get on to this man business, but it was a true direct correlation with he didn't have his dad in his life.

00:42:10.640 He didn't have his mom in his life, but he still found a way to make something out of nothing.

00:42:16.940 And I think we get so caught up in the, oh, pity part.

00:42:22.840 It's like, yo, you ain't have a dad in your life.

00:42:24.240 Oh yeah, bro.

00:42:24.720 I'm with you.

00:42:25.260 Like my dad ain't one in my life either.

00:42:26.640 You know what I'm saying? 0.95

00:42:27.260 Oh, your mama, your mama used to abuse you. 1.00

00:42:29.180 Oh, I'm with you. 0.91

00:42:29.820 My mama did. 0.99

00:42:30.740 Like, but it's.

00:42:31.580 Now let's take it out on the world.

00:42:32.640 It's like, okay, what are we going to, like, what is the footprint we going to leave?

00:42:35.980 Are we going to say that we are who we are because we didn't have a daddy in our life or our mama was crazy to us?

00:42:42.960 Or are we going to say like, look, my, my situation was not, it wasn't ideal, you know?

00:42:49.680 But I, but I know through those, through those circumstances, through those experiences that I've grew and I've gained a lot of knowledge.

00:42:58.780 I gained a lot.

00:42:59.740 I went through a lot of pain.

00:43:01.080 Yeah.

00:43:01.480 And, but at the end of the day, I'm going to be the one to decide, you know, my fate is my, is my response.

00:43:10.020 My emotions are my responsibility.

00:43:11.900 My actions are my responsibilities.

00:43:14.020 Now I might have certain conditions, facts, and circumstances that may have led to some of them decisions.

00:43:22.100 But at the end of the day, it's still my responsibility.

00:43:24.840 Because when you get out of that childhood, when you get out of that kid stage and you're an adult, ain't nobody looking at you like, oh, he must have had a dad, a father in his life.

00:43:35.260 You know what I'm saying?

00:43:35.660 They looking at you like, on to the next one.

00:43:38.440 I'm going to grow up.

00:43:39.580 For real.

00:43:40.140 That's what it is.

00:43:41.160 Yeah.

00:43:41.320 That's a great point, man.

00:43:42.420 I think there's aspects of my life where I've, like, I think I was like a late bloomer too, like realizing a lot of stuff and getting past like a lot of childhood stuff.

00:43:50.900 But I certainly feel like I'm at a point now where I want to grow up more in some areas, you know?

00:43:56.780 And I pray, that's what I pray about each day.

00:43:58.720 I pray that God makes me more willing to advance in some of these places and to let go of some resentments and help like soften some of the discomfort that I have in places.

00:44:11.320 Yeah.

00:44:11.900 Because sometimes there's things that are still hooking you to your past, you know?

00:44:14.840 Right.

00:44:15.180 And it's like, sometimes it's hard to get, you know, like when you have like a, you had a boat dock and you got the things tied up.

00:44:21.280 Mm-hmm. 0.96

00:44:22.000 And some drunk guy tied the one and he tied a damn Christmas bow on it or something you can't get. 0.99

00:44:26.980 Right. 0.99

00:44:27.280 Sometimes it's like, I got those.

00:44:28.420 I really believe we have certain curses that are on us, that were put on us through our family, through generations, you know, of them, you know, living a life.

00:44:39.580 But I also believe in that bondage, that true peace.

00:44:43.160 And, you know, again, let's talk about our faith.

00:44:46.780 Let's talk about accepting our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, man, and being separated from all that bondage and realizing like it is my life.

00:44:54.120 I am free from everything that I feel like is holding me back to go do what I need to do for this world, for me.

00:45:03.700 Yeah.

00:45:04.520 And I know it's tough.

00:45:05.740 Like.

00:45:05.900 No, no.

00:45:06.180 I know you're not saying it's possible for everybody easily, but it's something we have to hear.

00:45:10.780 And that's why I'm listening to you say it.

00:45:13.520 I'm happy to hear it today.

00:45:15.360 It's a message that I need to be reminded of.

00:45:18.240 And I think that's why you're even saying it right now.

00:45:20.920 And we're in the same space because, yeah, I need to be reminded of that, that how long do I want to sit and look at the chains instead of look out the window?

00:45:29.100 Come on.

00:45:29.780 You know, like how, you know, like at a certain point, even my eyes are tired of looking at those chains.

00:45:35.760 It's truly perspective.

00:45:36.920 Like, man, I, uh, so I, I'm, I'm every time, every year, Black History Month, like I want to learn something new about black history.

00:45:45.060 And obviously being from the South, like my image on slavery and Jim Crow laws in the dirty South is just this gruesome image of like white versus black. 0.94

00:45:54.140 Like, man, they hated us.

00:45:55.280 And like, oh, I can't believe, like they, they look at us.

00:45:57.620 They act like it's not that far.

00:45:59.400 Uh, they, they are like, it's, it's, it's way, it's a hundred years from now, but it's very recent.

00:46:03.260 Um, but I, but I, I got, I got this respect when I was watching this masterclass, um, about, uh, African-American history, black history on masterclass.

00:46:13.080 And when my perspective was changed from all the great things that African-Americans have accomplished, besides all the, the treacherous things that African-Americans went through, I started to see again, that light that's inside of me.

00:46:28.120 Like, wow, like I possess this man.

00:46:30.780 Yes.

00:46:31.000 My people were enslaved.

00:46:32.440 Yes.

00:46:32.740 My people went through some terrible circumstances.

00:46:36.220 They went through a rough time, but man, look at how my people overcame.

00:46:40.600 Look at the love.

00:46:41.900 Look at the power.

00:46:43.020 Look at the victory that came from all that.

00:46:46.080 You count, you came to a world where you were enslaved.

00:46:50.780 And now we walk around free.

00:46:52.520 We walk around doing whatever we want to do.

00:46:54.620 Go down Bourbon street.

00:46:56.560 Oh yeah.

00:46:57.060 And see, and see if you could, if you could, if you could sense anything, you know what I'm saying?

00:47:00.840 It's just, it's just wildness, you know, and it's, and it's truly.

00:47:04.260 Yeah.

00:47:04.360 I get jealous of black community sometimes because they got the best origin story. 1.00

00:47:07.540 Like I always liked the, uh, like if you look at a superhero or something, you got that, you got to have that origin story.

00:47:14.360 And it's easy for me to like, I'm not going to say like, Oh, what a unique origin story.

00:47:20.220 Cause obviously I know that there's tons of things that I don't even understand in it.

00:47:23.900 I don't even understand.

00:47:24.820 Like when somebody looks in a, takes a 23 and me or something, they can't even, or they don't even know past where their grandparents are from.

00:47:32.460 I don't know what that feels like.

00:47:33.940 You know, I don't know what it feels like to be in a place where you showed up as a commodity, you know, like I don't have, I don't know any of what that really feels like, you know?

00:47:44.660 Um, but, um, I do think it's, uh, there is something interesting about having a, an origin story that you can derive.

00:47:56.880 If you're able to start to turn a corner in your perspective, um, while still acknowledging the past, but to have it be, uh, one of looking forward.

00:48:10.900 Right.

00:48:11.180 Well, I think you got to acknowledge the past because that's how you learn.

00:48:13.740 That's how you grow.

00:48:14.800 Yeah.

00:48:15.280 Um, but, but also believe that when you, when you have a knowledge of the past, you gotta, you gotta think about ways that you can change it.

00:48:24.100 Right.

00:48:24.680 Not think of like, at first I was so into like, okay, this is me.

00:48:29.360 Like you did this to me.

00:48:31.500 Like, this is why I'm behind and my dad ain't living in a multimillion dollar house.

00:48:36.480 Like I'm behind the eight ball.

00:48:38.000 Right.

00:48:38.160 We don't have generational wealth because we couldn't have generational wealth.

00:48:40.920 Right.

00:48:41.100 Right.

00:48:41.360 Like, but now I look at it as like, man, like, okay, I got this light.

00:48:45.220 I got this opportunity.

00:48:46.440 Let me use it because people before me could sacrifice way more than me in this, in this

00:48:54.420 part right now, and they still found a way to do it.

00:48:57.840 Mm-hmm.

00:48:58.380 So it would be ignorant of me to think that I'm not able to do something.

00:49:04.040 Right.

00:49:04.240 Just because the limitations and the restrictions now, now it is now systematic racism and stuff.

00:49:09.700 Now it is a system, right?

00:49:11.940 But it's changing past.

00:49:12.620 But it's also a victory side to it.

00:49:15.760 Right.

00:49:16.080 That you can focus on, that you can, like the communities that you build, like you gotta surround yourself with those people that are thinking like that.

00:49:23.560 Oh, yeah.

00:49:24.220 You know what I'm saying?

00:49:24.660 Well, the long, and if you only look at yourself as a victim, then it's impossible to really advance yourself for anybody.

00:49:32.280 Like if I only look at the parts of me that, like if I only see myself as a victim, right?

00:49:40.840 And that's all I see myself as, it's going to be really hard for me to have new opportunity because I don't have any perspective.

00:49:47.920 I won't even see opportunity if it shows up.

00:49:50.100 Man, I learned this, like I was talking to one of my mentors and he shared this with me.

00:49:56.220 And it kind of changed my perspective.

00:49:59.160 He was like, you are not what you think you are, but what you think you are.

00:50:06.160 Like, is that the perspective, like we all think like, oh, I'm this type of person, but we're not thinking about the stuff that we put into our mind on a daily basis.

00:50:16.320 Like what we think and what we set our attention to is really what we are.

00:50:19.460 Not what we may think how people view us or how we may even view ourselves, but what we think and like, like poor, like being poor, like that's a mentality.

00:50:30.140 Being rich, that's a mentality.

00:50:32.120 Like these people just got, like me, Mills said, like it's levels to it.

00:50:36.420 Like when you are, have a poor mindset, like, man, that's, that's, that's struggle.

00:50:42.300 That, that, that, that, that's hurt.

00:50:44.640 That's pain.

00:50:45.700 But man, I didn't see people like with no shoes, toes coming out their shoes that are happier than ever.

00:50:51.720 Yeah.

00:50:52.380 I didn't see people with no shoes.

00:50:54.700 At the beach.

00:50:55.360 Yeah.

00:50:56.580 No, bro.

00:50:57.440 I didn't see people with no shoes, man.

00:50:59.740 I'm talking about little kids.

00:51:00.920 Oh, that's what you're saying.

00:51:01.880 No, no shoes, man.

00:51:04.600 Enjoy.

00:51:05.620 Enjoy.

00:51:06.220 Yeah.

00:51:07.040 Because what they're thinking.

00:51:08.540 Right.

00:51:09.420 Yeah.

00:51:10.420 Yeah.

00:51:10.780 I remember I've gone to some different places like India, different places.

00:51:13.400 You see these kids show up and they're just living, man.

00:51:16.780 You're like, oh, I wish I could be as happy as this kid.

00:51:19.340 Yes, man.

00:51:19.880 And he's sitting here and he got nothing.

00:51:21.540 Nothing.

00:51:22.300 Yeah.

00:51:22.860 And he's got nothing for himself.

00:51:26.100 Speaking of Meek Mill, man, I got to ask, dude.

00:51:29.980 Did he?

00:51:30.920 Or did he?

00:51:34.340 No diddy.

00:51:35.480 No diddy.

00:51:36.300 That's what Mace said.

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00:53:59.240 Oh, you know what I just saw, man?

00:54:02.600 They had the two girls.

00:54:04.300 You know, there's a pair of conjoined women. 1.00

00:54:06.300 Oh, really?

00:54:06.840 And it's a double.

00:54:07.940 Zimese twins.

00:54:08.440 Zimese twins, brother.

00:54:09.800 And they married a man.

00:54:12.180 One of them got married.

00:54:13.820 Okay.

00:54:15.200 You see that?

00:54:15.840 So I just wonder how does that, because sometimes it's hard enough you're married.

00:54:23.900 Yes.

00:54:24.500 And if some of my in-laws will get involved in a discussion, sometimes it can be challenging.

00:54:29.980 Right.

00:54:30.760 So if you got an in-law, I mean, you got a dang neck neighbor, you know? 0.99

00:54:38.320 I mean, to each his own.

00:54:41.760 Oh, yeah.

00:54:42.440 I'm just saying, how tough would it be to manage a...

00:54:45.480 I'm just...

00:54:46.820 What I'm really trying to picture, like, is he dealing with one woman or two women?

00:54:53.260 Yeah.

00:54:54.480 Like, that's what I'm trying to picture.

00:54:57.340 Because if he's dealing with two women, then right on, brother. 0.99

00:55:00.540 So, yeah, it's...

00:55:03.540 That is...

00:55:03.920 Yeah, I wonder what he...

00:55:06.880 Yeah, does he really want to be Mormon, I'm wondering, you know?

00:55:11.680 Or does he...

00:55:12.460 You know what I'm saying?

00:55:12.940 Does he really want to have multiple wives?

00:55:15.560 I can speak Mormon, too.

00:55:17.400 You know?

00:55:17.560 Yeah?

00:55:17.820 I can speak Mormon.

00:55:18.740 Have you ever been to a Mormon church?

00:55:19.840 Can you...

00:55:20.640 I've never been to a Mormon church, but I've had a lot of Mormon teammates.

00:55:25.900 Teammates.

00:55:26.160 And they're the nicest people that you can ever be a teammate with.

00:55:31.520 I would be Mormon.

00:55:32.400 I've been before to, like, in Salt Lake, you can go see, like, Luther...

00:55:38.180 What was the...

00:55:38.920 Sorry, my brain is bad today.

00:55:42.900 Joseph Smith.

00:55:43.500 Yeah, you can go see, like, the campus, the Mormon campus and everything.

00:55:47.300 It's beautiful.

00:55:48.380 It's stunning over there.

00:55:49.660 Jameis, when you look at guys like Caleb Williams has caught a lot of flack this year, I think

00:55:57.180 more than, to me, it feels like just as a fan, it feels like he's caught more flack than

00:56:04.640 anybody, a starting quarterback in a long time who's going to come out of the draft.

00:56:09.660 Recently, they're talking about him for having a pink phone case or just his fingernail polos.

00:56:19.600 It seems like a level of scrutiny that's almost gone overboard, man.

00:56:25.460 I think, like, to whom much is given, much is required.

00:56:27.760 And when you are in a position, as he is, and when you reach a level of excellence that

00:56:35.300 he has attained as being an excellent college quarterback, it just comes with the territory.

00:56:41.180 You know, and I think, like, if I was in his shoes, I know what it's like to be scrutinized

00:56:46.740 like that on a whole different spectrum.

00:56:49.940 And you have to focus on who you are.

00:56:53.040 You have to get closer to the people that's around you.

00:56:55.520 You got to push through that now.

00:56:58.180 Like, I don't know about the fingernail polish and the lipstick and stuff.

00:57:01.580 Like, that's his life, you know?

00:57:04.380 Oh, look, we've all been to, yeah, we've all had a moment or something.

00:57:09.240 Like, that's his life.

00:57:11.120 I know he can play football.

00:57:13.580 And I know that character is what you do when no one is looking.

00:57:20.140 So I just, I pray that he is focusing on his character.

00:57:23.520 And football ain't everything for him, right?

00:57:26.800 And I know he's been to Oklahoma.

00:57:28.400 I was an Oklahoma fan.

00:57:29.580 I grew up an Oklahoma fan.

00:57:30.760 Really?

00:57:31.160 Yeah, I really did, bro.

00:57:32.140 Why, though?

00:57:32.600 Because Oklahoma beat Florida State in 2000.

00:57:37.120 That's the championship.

00:57:37.940 Oh, so you just, that's how you got on.

00:57:39.900 Florida State was my daddy's team.

00:57:41.760 So I was just like, I don't.

00:57:42.280 You got to pick something different.

00:57:43.020 I was on the bandwagon.

00:57:44.140 I just jumped on.

00:57:45.020 I was like booming sooner ever since then, you know?

00:57:47.240 So that's why I like Baker Mayfield, Colin Murray.

00:57:49.340 Dude, I love Baker, bro.

00:57:50.380 Yeah, nah.

00:57:50.960 Bro, is there anybody more fun to cheer for than Baker, I feel like?

00:57:54.060 Man.

00:57:55.500 Baker is a dog. 1.00

00:57:56.620 I think he is a beast, man. 0.99

00:57:59.040 He will not be denied, man.

00:58:01.000 I mean, the opposition had him at like, it's almost a wrap.

00:58:05.780 Yeah.

00:58:06.020 It felt like.

00:58:07.400 But then he's like, nuh-uh.

00:58:09.660 No, he out.

00:58:10.460 He out.

00:58:10.880 He doing his thing.

00:58:11.400 And now look at him.

00:58:12.320 He's doing his thing.

00:58:13.220 I know.

00:58:13.400 There's so many stories like that, man.

00:58:15.120 There's so many stories that people just continue to push through.

00:58:17.660 Like, you're going to come out on the other side.

00:58:19.100 Yeah.

00:58:20.300 Yeah.

00:58:20.680 I feel like he's one of those guys that everybody, if you don't support Baker, I don't understand

00:58:24.680 where you're at, you know?

00:58:26.540 Yeah, just that pressure.

00:58:27.540 But do you feel like the media's at a place where it's just, or it's just always going

00:58:30.120 to be like that?

00:58:30.840 It just feels like this year, like, they've gone crazy on him.

00:58:33.660 Like, who cares?

00:58:34.560 Like, it's a young guy trying to be a good quarterback.

00:58:38.580 Man, and like, these are kids that they're scrutinizing.

00:58:43.920 But in the common eye, you can be a kid, but if you're a celebrity, you're a grown man.

00:58:52.040 And like, and now everyone's so entitled to say whatever they want to say.

00:58:56.220 You know what I'm saying?

00:58:57.000 And like, and as media, we are attracted to those negative things.

00:59:01.920 Like, we're not attracted to, like, oh, Caleb Williams had a football camp with 300

00:59:06.600 kids.

00:59:07.860 And like, he gave everybody free Jordans.

00:59:09.880 You know what I'm saying?

00:59:10.420 We're not attracted to those.

00:59:11.540 Yeah, Caleb Williams made a nice pasta.

00:59:13.600 You know what I'm saying?

00:59:14.360 Yeah.

00:59:15.220 I don't know.

00:59:16.020 I don't think he's a pasta person.

00:59:17.480 But I don't know.

00:59:18.540 It definitely seemed he, I mean, who knows?

00:59:21.400 He'll probably have a dang housewares collection in a couple months, according to the media.

00:59:26.360 You know?

00:59:27.000 No doubt.

00:59:27.860 He'll have a flatware line.

00:59:31.040 But no, I think it's like, yeah, nobody wants to, but yeah, we don't look at, we don't

00:59:35.440 gravitate towards that.

00:59:36.640 Man, I don't think, I don't think like the world, like life, like obviously we say life

00:59:40.600 ain't fair, but people's opinion really not fair, bro.

00:59:44.160 Like, what do you mean?

00:59:45.020 Like, I mean, like, everyone gets this public persona, but no one really knows who that person

00:59:53.200 truly is.

00:59:54.220 Oh, 100%.

00:59:55.220 You know, like, again, let's go back to the social media thing.

00:59:58.840 Like, social media has some great stuff.

01:00:00.320 But again, like, I know people that are broke as a dog.

01:00:06.160 And if you look at their social media, they flexing, they, like, you just.

01:00:11.480 They got jewelry on their puppy. 0.99

01:00:13.400 The puppy got damn gold earrings. 1.00

01:00:15.040 That's what I'm saying. 1.00

01:00:15.640 Bracelets on.

01:00:15.880 I'm just like, I'm like, what are you trying to portray?

01:00:18.180 Like, we know you.

01:00:19.260 Yeah.

01:00:20.840 You know what I'm saying?

01:00:21.880 Like, who are you hiring from?

01:00:23.280 Yeah, you sleeping in my back bedroom.

01:00:25.260 Bro, I just paid your light bill the other day.

01:00:28.560 Like, what you doing?

01:00:30.460 Huh?

01:00:31.420 Like, don't let my gratitude ruin you.

01:00:34.420 Yeah.

01:00:34.800 Huh?

01:00:35.240 Yeah.

01:00:35.680 You going to go to the club and spend $200?

01:00:38.080 You can't spend $200 at the club.

01:00:39.740 You're spending all the money.

01:00:40.660 I got you.

01:00:41.740 Golly.

01:00:42.480 That is true, homie. 1.00

01:00:43.480 Taking a picture in somebody else's booth.

01:00:45.100 You know what I'm saying?

01:00:45.500 They went to the bathroom and they standing up in the booth.

01:00:47.860 They're like, how you get down?

01:00:51.220 Golly.

01:00:51.900 Your hustle's strong, bro.

01:00:53.100 Yeah, I know.

01:00:53.900 That is true.

01:00:55.380 It's interesting.

01:00:57.920 What else did I want to think about?

01:00:59.560 Yeah, I guess just being in a new place.

01:01:01.220 Have you gone to Cleveland yet and picked out a home and everything?

01:01:03.460 Man, I went to Cleveland.

01:01:06.300 I haven't picked out a home yet.

01:01:08.220 But it was like, it was really like eye-opening.

01:01:11.600 It was like.

01:01:12.100 Because people rip on Cleveland a lot, you know?

01:01:14.460 They do.

01:01:15.020 And it's a beautiful city.

01:01:16.260 But like, obviously, when we talk about Cleveland, they say, it's cold.

01:01:19.840 It's going to be cold up there.

01:01:20.780 And when you come from Tampa and New Orleans, like, it don't really get cold here.

01:01:23.840 You know, and then it was.

01:01:26.020 Maybe in the freezer section at Rouse's, that's it.

01:01:28.520 Bro, but it was one of the moments where, like, I'm getting my physical, you know?

01:01:32.580 And it was cold when we got there.

01:01:35.580 But her name was Julie.

01:01:37.560 She'd say, yo, it's snowing.

01:01:39.140 I was like, man, it's snowing out here in March.

01:01:41.780 I ain't never seen no snow in March.

01:01:43.680 So I sent the video to my wife.

01:01:45.780 I was like, hey, baby, look, it's snowing.

01:01:48.520 And she was like, I am not a kid, Jameis. 1.00

01:01:50.900 You don't have to tell me it's snowing.

01:01:52.380 And I see it's snowing.

01:01:53.860 You know what I'm saying?

01:01:54.180 I don't want to see no snow right now.

01:01:55.980 I want to see a beach.

01:01:57.720 I was like, all right, man, you got it.

01:01:59.200 You know?

01:01:59.640 But I guess they're going to talk about the cold.

01:02:00.940 All right, back to the drawing board.

01:02:02.100 No, for real.

01:02:03.000 Like, you started all over again.

01:02:05.260 That's a husband's job. 0.99

01:02:06.600 You just start all over again.

01:02:08.340 You know, I just hit it with, like, well, you know, this is going to be our first Christmas

01:02:11.600 where the babies get to play in the snow.

01:02:13.540 You know what I'm saying?

01:02:14.400 She's like, it's almost May, Jameis.

01:02:16.620 For real?

01:02:17.180 We ain't doing Christmas in Mexico.

01:02:19.580 For real, no.

01:02:20.380 What's that like being a husband, man?

01:02:21.860 Was that scary for you?

01:02:23.040 It was very scary for me, man.

01:02:25.260 But that's my high school sweetheart. 0.99

01:02:27.840 And, like, man, you're talking about fear.

01:02:29.940 Like, commitment to one person.

01:02:34.300 That is fear.

01:02:35.880 You know, because your life is in their hands.

01:02:38.340 And their life is in your hands.

01:02:40.040 So, when you're maneuvering and when you have all these different experiences that's coming

01:02:45.860 at you, you have to be strong, man.

01:02:49.460 You have to be strong and know, like, this is my priority.

01:02:52.740 This is my love.

01:02:53.700 Like, this is my first love.

01:02:55.440 Right?

01:02:55.600 Like, whatever can be attractive to my eyes or anything outside of that, like, it doesn't,

01:03:00.480 I don't condone that, you know.

01:03:02.380 And plus, my girl, like, she an OG, man.

01:03:05.200 Like, she was, like, really the dream.

01:03:06.740 Like, I was a football player.

01:03:08.340 And, obviously, I was an athlete in high school.

01:03:10.940 And she was a hooper. 0.55

01:03:12.160 Like, you know, back in the day, love and basketball.

01:03:14.340 That was everything.

01:03:15.320 Oh, yeah.

01:03:15.800 That was romantic.

01:03:16.700 My whole thing was, like, man, like, I wish I knew how to play basketball so I could

01:03:20.260 have a love and basketball moment.

01:03:21.800 But, boom, like, God blessed me with a girl that can hoop, that was pretty, that had all

01:03:25.940 these, the best eyes.

01:03:28.000 Like, her eyes.

01:03:28.620 Like, I just stand her eyes.

01:03:29.800 And it's just, like, God, what you doing?

01:03:32.440 What you doing with them eyes, huh?

01:03:33.580 You know, but, like, when I was blessed with that, man, I was, like, my heart was took.

01:03:40.560 You know what I'm saying?

01:03:41.440 There y'all are right there.

01:03:42.620 Yeah, that's us, man.

01:03:44.260 And y'all in the water, baby, getting it, huh?

01:03:46.540 That's in our house, man.

01:03:48.260 We did the way in there.

01:03:49.520 Oh, that's beautiful, man.

01:03:51.200 Yeah, my brother, that ain't my brother for real, but that's not my life coach.

01:03:55.220 He right there.

01:03:56.040 That's your life guard, too.

01:03:57.380 He in the dang, he in the, that ain't the shallow end, I don't think.

01:04:00.620 Hey, it's a step.

01:04:01.820 Oh, okay.

01:04:02.300 And look, and we tried to, we had him on a brick.

01:04:05.040 So he was going to be level.

01:04:06.460 And, like, he slipped off the brick, you know what I'm saying, doing the ceremony.

01:04:10.180 We was like, all right, man, we know you dedicated.

01:04:12.200 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:04:13.240 Oh, that's cheating at the combine if you're standing on a brick.

01:04:15.820 Yeah.

01:04:16.840 I know that, man.

01:04:18.060 He, like, I don't think nobody was expecting to get, you know, their pants wet.

01:04:24.080 But I was like, we got to get in the water.

01:04:25.620 Like, this is what it is.

01:04:26.380 This is water.

01:04:26.860 We got to be flowing.

01:04:27.860 Like, we got to be watered together.

01:04:29.620 I love it, man.

01:04:31.220 I like that, man.

01:04:32.160 You just kind of make your choices, and that's it for you, you know?

01:04:35.480 It seemed like your self-confidence is that a unique, is really unique compared to other

01:04:40.020 people, man.

01:04:40.780 Yeah.

01:04:41.240 Were you always like that, do you feel like?

01:04:42.940 Or was that something that was kind of built, or do you think it was just a gift that you

01:04:45.660 had?

01:04:45.980 I feel like it's still growing.

01:04:48.040 I've always been confident in myself, but more importantly, in my faith.

01:04:52.400 You know what I'm saying?

01:04:52.860 Like, I was rooted in the church, like, old Southern Baptist.

01:04:57.140 From when you were little.

01:04:57.760 Like, from when I was little, like, but when I actually started to know God, and I started

01:05:01.500 to understand, like, that I'm fighting from victory, not for victory, like, then I took

01:05:07.620 a different approach.

01:05:08.480 I took a different approach to the way that I live.

01:05:11.320 I see.

01:05:11.940 And I think it's, like, the accumulation of, really, like, who you surround yourself with,

01:05:16.820 like, seeing other people that's, like, walking, like, firm, that are strong brothers,

01:05:21.280 that ain't, like, lukewarm, like, that gives you that confidence.

01:05:24.340 Like, they gives you that affirmation to be like, okay, like, man, I need to, like, what

01:05:28.360 am I doing?

01:05:29.020 Like you said, you question yourself.

01:05:30.500 There's been a lot of times where I've questioned myself.

01:05:33.220 There's been a lot of times in the NFL where I was just like, man, like, who am I?

01:05:37.420 Like, what I got going on?

01:05:39.440 You know what I'm saying?

01:05:40.180 But at the end of the day, I had to dig deep and just be like, okay, like, this is who I

01:05:44.040 am.

01:05:45.080 Right.

01:05:45.500 You know what I'm saying?

01:05:46.320 Get back to your foundation.

01:05:48.240 What is my foundation?

01:05:49.420 And if I don't believe in this foundation that I built, then why did I even build it

01:05:55.240 then?

01:05:55.940 You have to, yeah.

01:05:57.260 I'm not here for no reason.

01:05:58.580 Right.

01:05:58.880 I'm here for a purpose.

01:06:00.520 My own unique purpose.

01:06:02.500 Right.

01:06:02.660 So I got to live it.

01:06:04.820 Dang, man.

01:06:06.080 I might try out for somebody.

01:06:08.120 You can do it, bro.

01:06:09.040 Yeah.

01:06:09.260 The Colts might need someone. 0.64

01:06:10.320 I don't know who needs somebody right now.

01:06:12.980 What do you think about this new rule with the hip drop tackle?

01:06:15.100 Do you have any thoughts on it?

01:06:16.060 Yeah, I think, I think it is, uh, they're trying to make the game safer, but as I've

01:06:23.120 been in the league, you know, I've seen it trend to be more of a, you know, a player

01:06:28.260 friendly league.

01:06:29.320 I think it takes an incredible amount of discipline and, uh, and athletic ability as people that

01:06:38.120 are actually making those tackles to avoid making that tackle.

01:06:40.820 So I think like when you make a rule, like you say, okay, this is the rule.

01:06:44.300 We can't do this no more, but as athletes being trained to do a certain way, like for

01:06:51.180 years, but for their whole life to just get somebody on the ground any way possible, I

01:06:58.600 think it's challenging, man.

01:06:59.780 And, and I, and I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm happy for player safety, but at the same time,

01:07:04.520 like, I know, like I'm from Alabama, like we love football.

01:07:08.440 Right.

01:07:09.080 However, if, if you get, if you run across the middle and somebody take your head off,

01:07:13.780 that's football, get back up.

01:07:15.620 Are you okay?

01:07:16.460 Your chin strap.

01:07:17.080 Okay.

01:07:17.620 What'd you say?

01:07:18.020 How many fingers I got?

01:07:18.920 Yeah.

01:07:19.140 You know what I'm saying?

01:07:19.580 Okay.

01:07:19.920 Come on.

01:07:20.520 We, we about to do it again.

01:07:21.940 You know what I'm saying?

01:07:23.040 I'm dropped back in the pocket.

01:07:24.220 And somebody come and slap me up on my head. 0.51

01:07:25.920 Like, okay. 0.87

01:07:26.500 I want that 15, but like, Hey, like, okay.

01:07:29.240 I see you came to play today.

01:07:30.660 Okay.

01:07:31.120 Like, it's just, it's the brotherhood.

01:07:33.400 And it's the, like, like we warriors out there, man.

01:07:35.780 Like I said earlier, like, man, we one play away from our career being done, you

01:07:41.480 know?

01:07:41.580 So I do respect the NFL making this player safety protocol and like doing

01:07:46.380 everything they can to help, you know, prolong people's careers.

01:07:49.120 But I think it's tough.

01:07:49.840 I think it's tough on the players.

01:07:51.140 Yeah.

01:07:52.040 Yeah.

01:07:52.440 I think it's interesting to see, like, and if you keep making things, like I

01:07:57.060 worry about if you put so much in the hands of the referees, because there's a

01:08:01.400 lot of people start to say that a lot of speculation you see of people saying

01:08:06.120 that things are fixed or organized or, you know, gambling is a lot more just in

01:08:11.120 our everyday life.

01:08:12.000 Now every other commercial is for it.

01:08:13.940 You know what I mean?

01:08:14.360 We advertise it.

01:08:15.260 It's like, it's everywhere.

01:08:17.520 So I just wonder if you, when you put stuff more in the hands of the referees too,

01:08:21.820 and give them one more space where it could be a crucial call in a playoff game

01:08:26.380 next year.

01:08:27.280 Right.

01:08:27.960 What does that look like?

01:08:29.100 You know, how, how weird is that?

01:08:30.540 You know, when you, when you look at the field, you know, a lot of, a lot of times people

01:08:35.320 just see the two teams, right?

01:08:37.300 Team A, team B.

01:08:38.620 Like, but bro, you forget it's another team out there and they got on black and

01:08:42.940 white.

01:08:43.840 Right.

01:08:44.240 And they're working together.

01:08:45.360 Like a lot of these, a lot of the referees, like when you get to know them, like, bro,

01:08:49.020 like they're insurance agents.

01:08:51.080 They're not even doing this year round.

01:08:52.820 You know, you know, this is a hobby for them to make, you know, six, six, six, six, for

01:08:58.140 real, make six figures just to, what you doing?

01:09:02.820 Huh?

01:09:03.540 Get on side.

01:09:04.600 You know what I'm saying?

01:09:05.060 I have a mixtape one dude, but yeah, I know they had a one video, some guy, he tapped into

01:09:09.520 the, make the announcement and he played a half a track off of his mixtape and people

01:09:13.500 were like, well, what is even going on here?

01:09:15.300 It is, it's, it's, you got to think about how tough it is first to make in-game decisions

01:09:20.100 to police grown men that are playing at the fastest level.

01:09:24.580 So I got a lot of respect for the referees, but man, like it's a third team, bro.

01:09:28.660 Like you playing against two teams.

01:09:30.300 You're not just playing against the other team.

01:09:32.380 You're playing against two teams because, you know, they have the rules and regulations

01:09:35.640 and it's their job, but they can dictate a game.

01:09:38.540 Now, as, as a leader, uh, as a coach or a person of, of influence, like you can't say

01:09:44.760 we can't, we're not going to allow the refs to dictate this game, but they have a certain 1.00

01:09:52.740 level of authority that can't, if they make a call and they're human, just like us, if

01:09:58.460 it's a mistake, they ain't finna say, oh my bad.

01:10:01.220 Like literally look, we write reports out of the game.

01:10:04.680 The coaches are sending it, sending in like, okay, this was a penalty.

01:10:07.000 This was a penalty.

01:10:07.880 And you'll get a letter back.

01:10:09.340 This was a penalty.

01:10:11.420 Sorry.

01:10:12.480 Nuh-uh.

01:10:12.940 I don't know if they send sorry.

01:10:15.080 Like, sorry is very polite.

01:10:16.540 But they'll, they'll literally be like, this, this, this, yeah, it's like, that was a penalty.

01:10:22.640 All right.

01:10:23.200 Move to the next one.

01:10:24.160 Yeah.

01:10:24.760 And you're just like, what?

01:10:26.140 What?

01:10:26.440 We can't get that play back?

01:10:27.680 I know.

01:10:28.580 And it's crazy.

01:10:29.580 Well, yeah.

01:10:29.960 There was that famous play in New Orleans that happened too.

01:10:32.080 I think this was before you were here.

01:10:33.360 Whenever there was a pass interference against the Rams.

01:10:36.320 It took them from going to the Superbowl.

01:10:37.660 I mean, that changes Drew Brees from having a dynasty operation and Peyton to things being,

01:10:43.220 you know.

01:10:45.200 He's still, he's still, he's still a Hall of Famer.

01:10:46.920 Super challenging.

01:10:47.320 Yeah.

01:10:48.220 Here you go right here.

01:10:49.200 John Hussey is a sales representative.

01:10:51.040 He's been a referee for nine seasons.

01:10:53.420 Alex Kemp, an insurance agent, has been a referee for six seasons.

01:10:56.780 In his sixth season, Clay Martin is a high school administrator. 1.00

01:11:00.100 Dang, he's a damn principal. 1.00

01:11:01.240 Yeah. 1.00

01:11:01.500 And a basketball coach.

01:11:03.640 He reading term papers on his phone probably at halftime.

01:11:08.480 Scott Novak is in his fifth season as a referee.

01:11:11.220 Brad Rogers is a college professor.

01:11:14.460 Ron Torbert's an attorney.

01:11:16.260 Yeah, you already know it.

01:11:17.440 He's been a referee for 10 seasons.

01:11:19.200 What is going on?

01:11:20.620 We got somebody in aerospace.

01:11:23.740 Uh-uh.

01:11:24.940 Adrian Hill.

01:11:25.920 He in aerospace.

01:11:27.560 Oh, wow.

01:11:28.200 He's an engineer.

01:11:29.420 They got different careers, man.

01:11:31.880 Like, that's what I'm saying.

01:11:32.660 Like, our livelihood is on the game.

01:11:35.300 Yeah, it says Craig Warsett is a drill rapper.

01:11:38.760 But this is, I mean, this is unbelievable.

01:11:41.760 Oh, my goodness.

01:11:43.720 They got to get some guys that are just referees.

01:11:47.340 Yeah, no, they're not.

01:11:48.800 Man, that thing, times have changed, man.

01:11:51.060 It is.

01:11:52.320 What else?

01:11:52.880 We got Easter coming up, man.

01:11:54.040 Y'all going to celebrate?

01:11:54.760 What you guys got going on?

01:11:55.820 Yeah, we going to celebrate Easter.

01:11:57.840 They have a beautiful parade in New Orleans, too.

01:12:00.140 They do?

01:12:00.540 It's at 2 p.m.

01:12:01.340 I think it's in the French Quarter.

01:12:03.140 I've seen it a couple times when I was younger, but it's nice, man.

01:12:06.420 I've never been to the Easter parade.

01:12:08.080 It's nice.

01:12:09.600 What do y'all do, an Easter egg hunt or something?

01:12:12.200 Go to church.

01:12:13.920 And the boys did an Easter egg hunt earlier this week,

01:12:17.560 so we don't have to do no Easter egg hunts.

01:12:19.440 But it's a spring break this year, so we're going to get out of time next week.

01:12:25.360 Yeah.

01:12:27.140 Any other stuff you guys want to look at, man?

01:12:31.080 Are y'all going to go up to Cleveland or no?

01:12:33.940 Not now.

01:12:34.700 We're going to wait until it's summer, summer, before we go up to Cleveland.

01:12:37.840 Okay.

01:12:38.260 Before the family go up there.

01:12:39.300 I'm going to be up there in two weeks.

01:12:43.340 Scott Fujita, I think, played for Cleveland as well, and the Saints.

01:12:48.500 He's a really neat guy.

01:12:51.080 Demario Davis, he came.

01:12:52.860 Oh, yeah, Demario plays.

01:12:53.840 I see him in Nashville sometimes.

01:12:55.100 That's where I live at.

01:12:55.880 Yeah.

01:12:56.360 No, that's where he lives.

01:12:57.280 Oh, it is?

01:12:57.720 Uh-huh.

01:12:58.100 I see him sometimes.

01:12:59.120 He'll pop into the same.

01:13:00.200 We go to the same IV place.

01:13:01.820 Oh, for real?

01:13:02.240 And he'll, I've never said hey to him, but I've seen him in there.

01:13:06.060 Yeah.

01:13:06.560 He's a big guy.

01:13:07.360 He's a great brother.

01:13:08.120 Is he?

01:13:08.480 He's great, bro.

01:13:09.060 He's phenomenal.

01:13:09.760 Yeah.

01:13:09.960 Like, he's one of those men that being in a locker room with, like, seeing the way that

01:13:15.360 he walks, seeing who he is every single day, inspired me to be a better man, you know,

01:13:19.820 and inspired me to check my engine light and just be like, okay, like, what we really got

01:13:23.920 up in here, you know what I'm saying?

01:13:25.400 What's really inside?

01:13:27.040 Yeah, I think, oh, wow, this is something right here.

01:13:30.340 Monkeys have taken over the city of Lopburi outside of Bangkok. 0.93

01:13:35.060 Go ahead, Monkeys. 0.98

01:13:35.760 Go ahead, Monkeys.

01:13:36.520 But this, Jamie, this seem like a, look at this, man.

01:13:40.880 But I'm, this is what I look at.

01:13:43.500 They together.

01:13:44.580 Like, they fighting.

01:13:45.580 Look, it's a civil war.

01:13:46.560 It's a monkey civil war.

01:13:48.460 This is real Planet of the Apes, y'all.

01:13:50.720 Like, do you see how, like, assembled they is?

01:13:53.920 That's a good point.

01:13:54.740 Look at the front lines they had right there.

01:13:56.120 Go back a little bit.

01:13:56.920 Man, come on.

01:13:58.100 Bro.

01:13:59.020 They got a dang general out there with them, huh? 0.99

01:14:01.140 No, really.

01:14:01.740 It's Planet of the Apes.

01:14:03.400 Look, nature, bro, I'm telling you, nature.

01:14:06.080 But they really turning.

01:14:06.900 Like, it's really, like, they fighting.

01:14:11.000 Like, look, they ain't attacking no civilians.

01:14:13.500 Like, they all at each other.

01:14:15.620 Like, this is real Planet of the Apes.

01:14:17.580 Y'all thought it was a game.

01:14:18.960 This is real.

01:14:20.140 And look, then they going back to the, like.

01:14:21.600 They retreating.

01:14:22.440 That's lunchtime.

01:14:23.720 But, bro, like, do they live there?

01:14:25.320 Do they live in that palace?

01:14:26.380 No, they take it over.

01:14:27.240 Like, oh, my gosh.

01:14:29.600 I've never seen, like, we don't even get that organized.

01:14:33.240 These monkeys was organized, like, front lines.

01:14:36.980 It looked like one of them had a whistle saying charge.

01:14:40.140 Like, golly.

01:14:41.500 Yeah, the monkeys look like Bill Parcells with their coat.

01:14:44.540 But they really, I feel like they put together.

01:14:47.240 Like, they got a Rob Ryan defense going on over here.

01:14:50.180 They structured.

01:14:51.700 It's Easter, man.

01:14:52.720 Jameis, I think we got to eat a W for the Lord, man. 0.89

01:14:54.960 Can we do it?

01:14:55.520 Let's eat a W for the Lord, man.

01:14:56.940 Please.

01:14:57.520 All right, brother.

01:14:58.180 Toast it up, man.

01:14:58.980 He has risen, brother.

01:15:00.120 Dang.

01:15:03.760 Jameis Winston, man.

01:15:04.840 Thanks for, on behalf of New Orleans, man, we want to just thank you, man.

01:15:08.780 I think it's been so fun to have your energy around, man.

01:15:13.740 Yeah, I think even just today, it's like, you never know what things you're going to hear.

01:15:17.400 Like, whenever we do a podcast, you know, you never know sometimes if it's going to

01:15:20.660 be just having fun or joking around or if you're going to need to hear some words that

01:15:24.700 you need to hear, you know.

01:15:26.400 So, I appreciate it, man.

01:15:28.000 No, I appreciate you, bro.

01:15:29.380 I'm really inspired by, like, your story, about how you had a paradigm shift, man, how

01:15:33.900 you a man to increase, man, and for you to be vulnerable enough to share with me some

01:15:37.960 of the stuff that you be still going through, I think, like, that has a human element for

01:15:42.920 the success that you have already, like, accumulated, right, in the work that you put in.

01:15:47.800 Like, when Joe told me, you were just in Australia, and then you just took a red eye over here

01:15:52.780 just to come talk with me and also have a show.

01:15:56.360 You know, just what you put in, man, is you know you're living on purpose, bro, and I'm

01:16:01.040 grateful to be in your presence and do this with you, bro.

01:16:04.040 Gang, thanks.

01:16:04.720 Jameis Winston, man.

01:16:05.620 Best of luck in Cleveland.

01:16:07.280 Oh, yeah.

01:16:09.860 Your crew gave me this new one right here, bro.

01:16:12.380 That's the logo.

01:16:13.720 That's the Jabba Wins, huh?

01:16:14.820 Yeah, that's the Jabba Wins, you know what I'm saying?

01:16:17.400 That's it.

01:16:17.820 And Cleveland color, so Dog Pound, go get your T-shirts.

01:16:21.100 Wow.

01:16:21.380 I'm saying Theo got the first one.

01:16:23.060 All right.

01:16:23.500 You can be next.

01:16:25.240 Yeah, yeah, you can be next right there.

01:16:27.600 Awesome, man.

01:16:28.200 Thank you so much for your time, bro.

01:16:29.280 Thank you, brother.

01:16:29.840 Now I'm just floating on the breeze, and I feel I'm falling like these leaves.

01:16:36.120 I must be cornerstone.

01:16:39.180 Oh, but when I reach that ground, I'll share this peace of mind I found.

01:16:46.860 I can feel it in my bones, but it's gonna take...

01:16:53.180 I can feel it in my bones.

This Past Weekend with Theo Von - April 02, 2024

E492 Jameis Winston

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