This Past Weekend with Theo Von - E494 Dustin Poirier

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00:01:46.740 We are here at the Tunnel Bar downtown Baton Rouge, Louisiana at the Hilton Hotel. And we

00:01:55.720 are grateful to get to spend time today with a UFC legend, his lightweight competitor, former

00:02:03.140 interim champion, and just a one-of-a-kind guy to cheer for and get to know. We're grateful

00:02:12.660 to have him returning to the podcast. Today's guest is Mr. Dustin Hoarie.

00:02:17.320 Shine that light on me. I'll sit and tell you my stories. Shine on me. And I will find a song.

00:02:36.480 I've been singing for the ass. How's Louisiana been treating you guys? Eating some good food? I saw 0.99

00:02:54.840 the crawfish. Right now is a big crawfish time. Yeah. Yeah, we had some crawfish, man. We had some

00:03:02.220 crawfish the other day. Some of them know the size disparity. That's where it's tough to know.

00:03:08.180 Like, do you get specifically the big ones from somebody you know? Or how do you guys do it over

00:03:12.660 there? Pablito has his own. Oh, yeah. Yeah, he has his own farm. Is it open now? Yeah. Yeah, he's

00:03:17.620 running it. Wow. Bring you however many sacks you need, man. Not his pit stop. Not his store. His

00:03:23.440 family owns crawfish ponds. Oh, I didn't even know that. Dang. I'm going to have to get a hold of some of

00:03:29.700 those. Dustin Poirier, welcome, bro. Thanks, man. Good to be back. Yeah, good to see you,

00:03:34.620 dude. How's you guys just went skiing or? Yeah, we went up to Aspen with my wife and

00:03:38.720 daughter. Spent four days up there and it snowed the whole time. Weather was great, man. Oh,

00:03:42.900 that's nice. Travel back wasn't as great. Got stuck in Oklahoma. We were going to Dallas.

00:03:49.660 Had to circle for 20 minutes in the air. Then they didn't let us land. So we went to Oklahoma. We were

00:03:53.300 running low on fuel. So we sat on the runway there. I was in that plane for like six hours and two of it

00:03:58.820 was in the air. So I was on. Yeah. Yeah. That's. We made it, man. That's alarming, bro. Yeah.

00:04:05.540 Something the other day we landed real fast and then took off again. You ever had that happen?

00:04:08.920 No. Yeah. Yeah. Did you guys, uh, what kind of, what kind of skiing you do out there? You ski,

00:04:14.080 you snowboard? Like what is, what's it like out there for, uh, what diamonds are you doing out

00:04:19.360 there? Dude, I'm not, I'm doing the bunny slopes. Really? Yeah. I don't want to blow my back out.

00:04:23.360 Yeah. My daughter, it's her second time skiing. So she's picking it up. My wife, this was her

00:04:30.040 first time. Last time we went, she snowboarded with me. I didn't ski this time. I didn't want

00:04:33.800 to bust myself up. I did sledding, tubing, um, stuff like that. Ice skating. Yeah. Cause some

00:04:39.400 people say, uh, snow is just gay water. Hey, perspective. Could be. Oh, I think, yeah. Cause it's 0.97

00:04:50.100 just like, if you look at it, like it's just as a flake, some of the bitches are. Yeah. A little 1.00

00:04:55.600 feminine. They nice. Yeah. Um, do you guys have, do you guys have contracts in UFC where you can't

00:05:01.220 do certain sports? Are there things that you guys are not allowed to do? I've heard that in our

00:05:05.100 contracts, I haven't seen it, but I've heard it in our contracts. There's something with like,

00:05:08.020 um, extreme sports, maybe motorcycles and things like that, but I haven't stopped. I just do

00:05:12.960 everything normal. I don't, I don't know. Yeah. It's interesting. Cause you guys are one of those

00:05:16.400 few sports where it's like, yeah. Cause Sean Strickland's on his motorcycle every day.

00:05:20.220 Yeah. Blatantly is, you know, telling people he's going hundreds and hundreds of miles an hour.

00:05:25.340 Yeah. Um, and I believe him. Yeah. Um, but yeah, that's pretty wild. You guys are to say,

00:05:32.280 it'll just be totally free like that. Yeah. I had a motorcycle for a while when I lived in Florida

00:05:36.240 and, uh, I ended up selling it. I only had it for like six months, maybe it just felt no, never,

00:05:42.400 but it just felt too dangerous, man. Yeah. Yeah. I was scared every time I was riding. Oh yeah.

00:05:46.400 But you know, most organ donors, uh, are motorcyclists. Yeah. Yeah. Like, uh,

00:05:52.080 I just did my ID recently. I had to update it to the real ID, the new thing. And my wife was with

00:05:56.640 me. She was like, no, don't, don't say you're an organ donor. I'm like, why? I mean, I don't,

00:06:00.000 I got the goods. You can have them if I can't use them, you know? Yeah. But she said, she was like,

00:06:03.580 no, I'm telling you if you get an accident and they go to the hospital and see it, that you're

00:06:06.920 an organ donor, they're not going to work as hard on you because they want those organs. I'm like,

00:06:09.980 oh man, conspiracies, bro. That's what I hear. Conspiracies. Look that up,

00:06:13.900 Nick. I wonder if that's true or not. They'll never tell you, man.

00:06:16.980 Dude, I, uh, actually, while I'm thinking about it, if something ever happened to you,

00:06:20.940 God forbid, right? Can I have one of your hands? I won't do nothing weird with it. I promise. It's

00:06:27.440 just for, I'll keep it in like a, uh, little cage or what, you know, like the left, left one bet.

00:06:34.700 Yeah. Thanks dude. Now look, if it gets out at night and beats up a neighbor, that's what I'm saying.

00:06:39.680 What, like Adam's family, it? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's like that.

00:06:44.180 It just fucking starts popping off, bro. Or if it wakes up in the middle of the night, 0.99

00:06:48.880 it starts cooking up a roux. Bro, I'll tell you what, man, I'm part of the roux tank clan.

00:06:53.140 Protect your neck.

00:06:53.880 What does this say? What does this say, Nick? Um, there is an age limit organ, uh, myth,

00:07:01.580 religion. See, I never heard of this, but my wife was with me at the DMV. Oh, here's the myth 0.93

00:07:06.120 right here. Doctors don't work as hard to save the lives of registered organ donors. Fact, if you are

00:07:11.680 sick or injured, the first priority of your hospital care team is to save your life. Organ donation is

00:07:17.340 only considered when all efforts to save a patient have been exhausted. That secondhand market, man.

00:07:24.220 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That secondhand market, bro. Oh, especially dude, if they know it's you, probably.

00:07:29.880 I mean, my liver's taking probably a little bit of abuse, but like heart and stuff's good.

00:07:33.760 Oh dude, the heart. Yeah. They're going to get at least for Poirier's heart. Oh yeah.

00:07:39.840 They're going to cop 40, 50 K on that. For sure. Easy. Easy. On Etsy, you could probably get 60 K.

00:07:45.080 Yeah, man. That's easy, man. Um, speaking of Etsy, speaking of stuff like that, eBay,

00:07:52.360 you know, we auction off the fight kits for the foundation. Somebody outbid everybody,

00:07:56.160 you know, so they had a bunch of real bidders and then didn't pay. So now I got to relist it.

00:07:59.740 It just sucks because, you know, we listed the week after the fight when momentum and,

00:08:03.680 you know, the fight's fresh. Now we got to relist it. I just hope it raises the same amount of money. 0.52

00:08:07.720 Yeah. Yeah. I think it will, man. We'll make sure to do, to, to make a bid. How much did they,

00:08:11.060 uh, what did purchase price did they get it at? Maybe 11 or 12,000, I think, which is,

00:08:16.020 which is, which is good. Cause we're trying to raise 50 K for the food net in Lafayette. So.

00:08:20.020 Okay. Bet. Yeah. Yeah. That's a great, uh, that's a, uh, I think that's a great thing to have,

00:08:25.200 you know, according to the widely used, although somewhat hard to find credit for figures,

00:08:29.740 a heart is worth around 1 million in the U S on the black market, on the black market. Wow.

00:08:36.780 Livers come in second worth about 557,000 kidneys cost about 262 K each. Um, human skin. If you want

00:08:46.340 to do it all Dustin, I don't know what type of $10 an inch, $10 an inch, bro. Now look,

00:08:51.180 Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey, there's going to be a limited amount of that. That's all I'm saying. If it's me

00:08:58.640 dying, bro, stomach 500 eyeballs, 1500 each though. Wow. That's crazy. And this is off of the black

00:09:05.780 market. Nick, or is this, um, is this 2024 prices? Yeah. Yesterday's price. They're saying

00:09:14.720 it's from a cadaver broker. So it's not like, obviously no one's taking official stats here,

00:09:19.180 but based on their research of cadaver brokers, those are the prices. Okay. I have a cadaver

00:09:23.980 in my nose. Really? Yeah. Somebody's rib. Yeah. Cartilage. Dang. That's biblical. I think

00:09:30.000 yeah. Well, if you, yeah, I've done cocaine off a Bible. That's kind of similar. It's not the same

00:09:35.300 thing that you have going on, but no, no. And we shouldn't have done it, bro. Yeah. Or you

00:09:39.760 shouldn't admit it. Yeah. That's too late. One of the other dude. Did you see, uh, did you see the

00:09:45.980 new roadhouse? No, I haven't, but I will. I'm, I will watch. I've been traveling so much, man.

00:09:50.720 Yeah. Yeah. You guys been busy since your fight. Well, I saw you every week in LA. Yeah. I was

00:09:55.320 shooting some stuff out there. Um, last week, Aspen the week before Carolina, this week in

00:10:00.960 Indiana, I think for Anthony Pettis. Oh, he's fighting. He's at a, he's got his own promotion

00:10:05.920 and I'm a guest appearance there. So that'd be cool. Yeah. Um, Connecticut the weekend after.

00:10:12.340 And are you cornering somebody over there? No, just watching fights. Dang. Yeah. That's busy,

00:10:17.600 man. Um, yeah. You didn't see the movie, but you'll see it though. Yeah. I'll watch it. I just

00:10:22.320 haven't had time to really. Yeah. Do you think, uh, what movie would you be in? You think

00:10:27.380 you think you would ever be, well, you just, well, I know you were out in LA. You were doing

00:10:30.620 a movie, right? Yeah. We were filming a commercial from movie monkey man. I don't know a whole lot

00:10:34.960 about it, but it looks pretty good. Yeah. Yeah. Um, do you think you, that's something you like

00:10:40.400 think about for yourself or is it just like a fun thing that kind of happened? Like I know

00:10:44.620 Connor's in this movie, uh, Connor McGregor. Do you think about that for yourself or? I'd like

00:10:49.720 to, you know, it's something different. Like it's exciting cause I've never done it before.

00:10:52.800 It's a new challenge. Keeps me busy. I got to be busy, man. That's my thing. Like I got

00:10:56.600 to be busy if I'm not getting ready to fight somebody. And I've said this a thousand times,

00:10:59.500 I have to have some kind of obstacle, you know, to in front of me. So if I'm trying to

00:11:03.480 do movies or grow my businesses, I just need to be in action, you know? Yeah. Yeah. That's

00:11:08.700 how you feel? Have to. Yeah. You just, there's no, if you get complacent or if you,

00:11:13.960 why? What? I'm like, it's honestly, bro. I'm a danger to myself when I'm having nothing,

00:11:18.440 no, no goal circling on my calendar. I'm a danger to myself, man. Yeah. Yeah. I beat,

00:11:22.540 I beat myself up mentally. I'm home. I drink. I'm, it's just not good. I have to have some

00:11:27.900 kind of battle. Yeah. Yeah. And I've always been like that, but like, as I'm getting older,

00:11:32.000 I'm kind of recognizing, Oh, you can see it more. Yeah. So I kind of set, set goals. So

00:11:36.120 I stay busy, you know? Oh, that's interesting. Yeah. Yeah. Cause I know in the last, uh, yeah,

00:11:41.400 I know whenever you came off of, um, the Gaethje fight, you were kind of in a tough spot,

00:11:46.140 I guess at times. Oh, big time, man. That was probably like one of the lowest points of my,

00:11:51.000 my life, you know, mentally I really felt down. Did you feel like, so, because now you're in a

00:11:57.560 place that feels different. Yeah. Back in the wind column, everything feels like it's, it's in,

00:12:02.480 in the motion, like it should be, you know, I just felt out of, uh, out of sync with life after that

00:12:07.140 last fight. Yeah. Do you think that it's like, um, because yeah, I'll like a lot of times determine

00:12:13.540 how I feel about myself based on what is happening, like in my career or in my, uh,

00:12:21.180 social life sometimes, or how I think people are perceiving me, you know, like,

00:12:26.000 do you notice for yourself, was any of that like about, did you feel like you were depressed?

00:12:30.060 Did you feel like it was like, like, were you able to get any perspective on like what made you

00:12:36.420 feel bad kind of, or? No, I don't think I like pinpointed what really brought me down.

00:12:41.880 Obviously getting kicked in the head wasn't good, but, uh, sorry. Yeah. But, uh, I didn't want to

00:12:46.960 laugh, but God just made me laugh. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, it was just a lot of things, you know? And like,

00:12:52.840 I think I might've text you after as well, after that fight, like I worked so hard to like build

00:12:57.920 myself up and be successful and have a career and fighting stuff, you know? And I feel like I've

00:13:01.840 got myself to a point where I'm respected by my peers and fighting and stuff like that. And I feel like

00:13:06.160 when I got home from that loss, it was like the world was just going to throw me away.

00:13:09.880 Remember when I texted you that? That's how I felt. It's like, I worked so hard and,

00:13:12.920 and one night you feel like, boom, everybody's throwing you away now. You know, like everything

00:13:17.300 I've done before that feels like it doesn't matter. You know, it just sucks. It was like 0.99

00:13:21.400 a bad place to be in, in myself, you know, waking up every morning. I was just not happy.

00:13:27.020 Wonder what makes us feel like that. Cause I can totally relate to that, man. Like if it doesn't

00:13:30.980 go good, then I don't have, I'm not worth anything. Right. I just feel, is that what it felt

00:13:35.420 like? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And in fighting, you're like, they say you're only as good as your last

00:13:39.400 fight. And then that's, that's where the world thinks about you. Your last performance, you know,

00:13:43.420 getting knocked out after I built myself up so long, so many crazy fights and you know,

00:13:47.720 the struggle and the grind to get there. It just feels like, boom, now everybody's looking at me

00:13:52.060 like that and just throwing me away. Damn. But that's why I put my nose to the grindstone this last one. 1.00

00:13:56.880 And we're not there and touch that guy up. Yeah. Yeah. And what it is. So like when you,

00:14:01.280 when you start like if, cause I think so many people can relate to that, man. I mean, I totally

00:14:04.900 can. Like I remember we were kind of texting about it. Like, yeah. Like I would pin so many

00:14:09.800 of my, uh, like who I feel like I am on how I do. Right. Right. Or like, um, but then I'll

00:14:18.160 start feeling like, like, how did you, uh, like, how, like, how did you notice when it got

00:14:25.320 like too hectic or did you, um, what do you do to start to turn that around?

00:14:31.660 You know, my, my wife really helped me out through this last one. Um, putting things in perspective,

00:14:35.560 like, like we were saying, you feel like the fight is your life, but it's just something I do.

00:14:41.260 You know, I'm a, a father, a husband, a friend, a business owner, a son, a brother. That's who I am.

00:14:48.260 Fighting is just something I do, you know? So if you put it in perspective like that and I kind of

00:14:52.000 switched my, my mindset of like, everything's an experience, you know, I'm thankful. I got to

00:14:56.380 experience that fight week and the, and the downs and the ups of fight week and losing sucks, but I 0.62

00:15:02.120 got to fly home in a different perspective, looking back, you know, because like losing sucks, especially

00:15:07.460 when you work so hard and fighting's like, everything's into it. You know, I put myself

00:15:11.120 into this for real. Oh yeah. I remember sitting in your green room after we were all sitting in

00:15:16.280 there. Oh yeah. And literally it was like, it felt like we were at a funeral in a

00:15:21.980 weird way, but you were right there. Yeah. It just felt like everybody felt. I told everybody

00:15:27.320 that in there. I said, this ain't a funeral. You're like, yeah, you're going around trying

00:15:31.600 to boost people's spirits. You're like, Hey, I'm, I'm still. You put on a black suit and

00:15:35.100 stuff. I'm still here. Yeah. I didn't even know where you got it. We're all singing. I can

00:15:39.140 still hear mama praying. Somebody stood up and was like, he was a good man. I'm like, I'm

00:15:45.280 right here, bro. I'm right here. Yeah. I think that was somebody trying to flirt with

00:15:51.680 your wife at the event too. I don't know. That might've been Sabah, your buddy. 0.80

00:15:55.580 Yeah. The demon. Yeah. Yeah. It could have been the demon. He definitely, uh, he loves

00:16:00.800 to meet a lady, but you know what, you know what taking, uh, that last loss would really

00:16:04.920 switch my mindset, man is, uh, I know who I am like losing. You find out who you are

00:16:11.380 and, and losing sucks. But in those moments, like when you're down, it's a great time to 0.79

00:16:15.080 experience you, you know? Cause like when you're winning, you can get this momentum when things,

00:16:18.760 everything's going good. You can kind of get in that groove where you're just on cruise

00:16:22.700 control, you know? But when you lose and the phone stops ringing and you're at home laying

00:16:26.820 in bed, going to sleep by yourself and everything, the dust settles, you know, that's when you

00:16:30.920 experience yourself who you really are, you know? And I think that's important, you know?

00:16:35.100 Yeah. Was that tough? Did you like, what are you? Cause that's, yeah, that's scary. Cause

00:16:39.080 every moment of silence thing, you kind of like, if something like that happens to me, like

00:16:43.620 I have something that's not good or feels like it's not good. I don't get the outcome that

00:16:46.980 I want any silence I hear after that. I always just, it feels like, yeah, that, uh, nothing's

00:16:54.460 like, it feels like the phone isn't ringing, but even it's just silence. It's just normal

00:16:58.660 silence. But in my head, I feel like, Oh, the phone ain't ringing. You know, that's when

00:17:02.940 reality really sits in, sets in, you know, like when you're around a bunch of people

00:17:05.960 after, after a loss and you're talking and everybody's, you know, keeping you busy, your

00:17:09.820 mind's busy, but then you go back to your house and you're by yourself, you know, and you

00:17:13.460 look in the mirror and it's just you like, that's when it's real. Yeah. Yeah. That's when

00:17:17.660 the phone's not ringing. Yeah. What, uh, yeah. How rough did it get? Like, was there, was

00:17:23.680 there moments where you're like, okay, I got to get some help? Like, what did you kind

00:17:26.460 of help? Did you get? I started doing therapy. I wouldn't speak to a therapist. Yeah. There

00:17:31.060 was some nights where I would just, I just got up and left my house. Like I just, I couldn't

00:17:36.020 be here. I just got up and left my house and went to get a hotel room, you know, got in my

00:17:40.140 truck and just left, you know? And I don't know why I don't have any reason why I just

00:17:43.720 felt like I had to, it was crazy, man. I was going through it. Yeah. Yeah. And do

00:17:48.320 you think it was just that you were feeling like, like would, was some of it like, like

00:17:53.600 met like medical or CTE related? Do you think, or do you have, like, do you have any perspective

00:17:58.200 on like what it was kind of, or do you think it was just, I mean, it could have been all

00:18:03.020 of that. You know, I definitely have head trauma. I have 50 fights and, uh, yeah. And you

00:18:07.280 were, yeah. And you're from fricking Youngsville from Lafayette. Yeah. Sorry. Yeah. But yeah,

00:18:13.780 we all have head trauma. I mean, look, bro, you born in Louisiana. Yeah. You come out with

00:18:18.220 head trauma, bro. That's on the report. Yeah. I'm sure it could have been all of, I don't

00:18:21.840 know. You know, I just wasn't in a good spot, but I'm good now. That's what matters. You

00:18:24.900 know? And what about medication or something? Like I take, I was off antidepressants for a while

00:18:29.460 because I was trying to not take them. And then I got, I was like, I just can't do this

00:18:34.780 right now. Life's too much. I'm going to get on them. I guess I'm back on right now.

00:18:40.280 Um, but did you have, did you ever try any medication or is that something that a lot

00:18:45.380 of UFC fighters do or what is that like? I'm not sure. I mean, like the prep, we're

00:18:50.900 such tough guys fighting. We don't really talk about that in the locker room or in the

00:18:53.720 gym. We don't talk about like, I'm feeling down. It's just shut the hell up and work. 1.00

00:18:57.360 You know, we got work to do. You got to fight to win. We don't, we don't sit around and 0.97

00:19:00.220 hold hands and talk about, I'm not feeling well today. Yeah. You're right. That's

00:19:03.440 a good point. It would be nice if we opened up and kind of, cause I'm sure a lot of people

00:19:08.020 are going through it and not talking about it, but I've never been like shied away from

00:19:11.720 telling people how I feel and stuff like that. So I don't care. I will talk about it.

00:19:15.440 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like you try to share when you can about what's going on.

00:19:20.300 And I think that's one thing that's so interesting about kind of what the past like year of your

00:19:26.400 life has been like, is that you were in a space where things were so tough and you were

00:19:31.600 having a tough time and then you get a victory and some of that goes away, but some of it

00:19:37.720 may still stick around. So then you get some better perspective as to what that's like,

00:19:41.020 you know? Yeah. It's just the highs and lows. Like losing is the lowest of the low. Then

00:19:45.220 you win on pay-per-view, knock a guy out and you're back on the mountaintop. It's just what

00:19:48.920 a rollercoaster this is fighting, you know? Yeah. Yeah. I'm thankful for it all though.

00:19:52.440 You know, it's given me, given me and my family, everything we have. Yeah. So I'm thankful

00:19:56.380 for it, the good and the bad, but I wouldn't recommend anybody seek this as a career.

00:20:00.880 Really? No.

00:20:04.240 Be a doc, go to school. Huh? Yeah. Go to school, go to college or something.

00:20:07.500 Yeah. Maybe that's the movie you could be in, man. It'll be like, yeah, Madea goes to the swamp

00:20:12.380 or something. I'm trying to think of a good, since Gyllenhaal and Connor had a movie, what

00:20:16.080 would be a good Poirier movie? Fried green cauliflower ears, maybe?

00:20:21.820 Yeah. That's a good one. That's a good one. Dustin goes to 10th grade. We could do.

00:20:30.700 We could just do a movie about me trying to get my GED.

00:20:34.180 All right. There you go, dude. Yeah. Yeah. And there's some scenes where it's like,

00:20:39.260 you hear a choir just, I can still hear mama pray. I can do it, man.

00:20:45.300 That'd be awesome, dude. I can get one.

00:20:47.760 Who would play you in a movie, I wonder? You ever think about that? Because Dustin-

00:20:51.320 I'm like Jean-Claude Van Damme. I mean, that's, that's, is that shooting too high?

00:20:56.260 No, I just think, I don't know if he can do the stuff you can, I think he's getting older.

00:21:01.700 Yeah, he is. But I'm a prime, like Bloodsport John, Jean-Claude Van Damme.

00:21:05.540 Oh yeah, that would be sick. Yeah.

00:21:07.260 Because one day they could make a movie about you, you know? I mean, it could be like-

00:21:11.480 If I get this fucking gold belt, we're going to have to make a movie. 0.99

00:21:15.320 Yeah. Yeah. 1.00

00:21:16.160 I remember coming over to your house when you had the belt.

00:21:18.300 Yeah. Yeah.

00:21:19.320 Does it ever feel like you didn't have it? Because there's so many, like, there, the, the,

00:21:25.680 because you're still interim champion.

00:21:28.060 Yeah.

00:21:28.460 It's not like champion's not in it.

00:21:30.440 No. And I beat a current champion at the time who was the title holder when we fought,

00:21:35.060 you know? It's just, I, I feel like it was a world championship, but people's opinions,

00:21:39.780 you know, is, is what it is.

00:21:41.660 Yeah. Um, now that you have like a win and you've had, and you're, it's a good place and it,

00:21:48.040 it takes, it like silences some of that self-critic in our head and some of that even fictional

00:21:55.560 critique from other people that some of it may be there and some of it may not.

00:21:59.220 Yeah. Uh, do you, do you want to, do you feel like, do I want to risk that again? Like,

00:22:05.400 do you think about that at all?

00:22:06.780 Yeah, I do. Like, where am I at if I, it doesn't go my way, which is likely, you know,

00:22:11.660 it's fighting. Uh, I think I can, I know I can beat anybody in the world. I believe in

00:22:15.980 my skills, but the margin for error out there is one mistake. You'd wake up asking what happened.

00:22:21.420 You know, you think you're, you're going to the school bus stop, you know, you wake up like,

00:22:25.640 I'm late for school. No, no, you dropped out. Yeah. Yeah. Sorry. That's too many Dustin's

00:22:32.460 not in school jokes. Um, but no, that's, that's one of the, some of the best stuff about your story

00:22:38.480 is that you didn't even finish high school. Never finished ninth grade. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah,

00:22:45.160 man. I always, I love you and your wife's story, man. It's all, all of it. So hilarious to me,

00:22:49.800 dude. There's so many funny moments that you guys have been through together over the years.

00:22:53.380 Yeah, dude. I mean, been together a long time, been living together since we were 18. So,

00:22:57.980 you know, she was there for the whole fighting, you know, journey. And, uh, it's, it's been fun,

00:23:02.820 man. I don't think I've said this before, but I don't think I would be as successful a fighter

00:23:06.120 without her. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Cause even like this last loss, like she, I put her through so much

00:23:11.800 stuff after that loss and she was still there for me, you know, every day right by my side,

00:23:17.140 like telling me I'm the best in the world. Oh wow. Yeah. Yeah, man. It's so important having

00:23:22.300 that, huh? For sure. And when I was younger, dude, like I would have been cutting up, running the

00:23:26.900 streets, you know, but I had a mortgage and a wife at home. So I was home every night and at the gym

00:23:31.660 the next day. So that, you know, right. It's like a blessing. You don't even realize. Yeah. Yeah.

00:23:37.020 Cause I had, I had to be home. Yeah. You know? Yeah. Cause if you didn't have to be,

00:23:40.380 oh, I would have been drinking and partying and I didn't do that, you know? Right. Damn. That's true,

00:23:45.800 man. It's so many little things that are blessings that you don't, you can't see until you get some

00:23:50.160 more perspective sometimes. Right. Yeah. Dude. One of my, there's that picture of you at the prom.

00:23:54.320 Do they have that when Dustin's in that white? Uh, that was her, that was her. Uh, so I was

00:23:59.020 living by myself when I was, I had my own place at 17 years old and, uh, she was living with her mom

00:24:05.180 then. That was her, that was her senior prom. That shit is so good. Cause everybody remembers the

00:24:14.900 dude that wore that to their prom. And that was the only one type of dude that rolled up like that,

00:24:19.580 bro. That's so cool. Wow, bro. Look at that. Wow. That's wild, huh? What a journey y'all been on.

00:24:27.800 Yeah, man. Dude. And you used to fight people at the police station out here cause it would be.

00:24:33.260 So yeah, I have fought somebody in the yard or the grass of the police station. My,

00:24:38.460 my place I had when I was 17 was directly across from Lafayette police department.

00:24:41.360 Yeah. And, uh, one time, this is a crazy story, but one time we went out to a bar. My brother

00:24:48.400 was playing his guitar there or something. And, uh, a guy I was with, I didn't really know him well.

00:24:52.740 He was a friend's friend. Yeah. And he stole somebody's purse at the bar and then he got

00:24:57.720 caught and called out for it. And we're with him. And I'm like, Oh, I mean, then we started walking

00:25:01.180 back to the, to my house and we just got into it and fought. But yeah. Yeah. Was it fun? Like those

00:25:07.400 street fights? Is that kind of more fun or you like having a referee in there?

00:25:10.580 No, I'd rather a referee. Yeah. Especially nowadays, man. People are shooting and stabbing.

00:25:16.560 Yeah. That's not fair. No. Um, yeah. Cause now you have the, you have the, you're in a space now

00:25:22.920 where you can do, you can run it back, man. You can feel like you can do it again. You can,

00:25:30.060 if you wanted to, you could retire on a high note. People can retire whenever they want.

00:25:33.820 Yeah. When I was 18, bro, I told my wife, we made an agreement. I wouldn't fight past 35. And I had no,

00:25:38.600 at 18, I had no idea what 35 looked like, but now I'm 35. I'm like, Oh shit, it's here. I don't, 0.99

00:25:42.660 I still feel good. I don't want to stop, you know? So we'll see. I still feel good. And I compete with

00:25:47.280 these young guys. Yeah. I do it every day in the gym and I got bumps and bruises. I carry from so

00:25:52.280 many years of fighting, had a couple of surgeries, but I feel good. So what do you think, what does it

00:25:56.880 look like for you? Like, are they pushing you? I know you talked about fighting, um, um,

00:26:00.780 Hamsat, uh, Islam, Islam. Um, do you think that's going to, like, what do you think is going to

00:26:08.580 happen? We'll see, man. I think, uh, this next pay-per-view UFC 300 is going to have, um,

00:26:14.600 might be an announcement. No, no, no. It's, it's, uh, in two weeks, Max Holloway's fighting Gaethje.

00:26:19.120 Oh yeah. I'm going to go to it. Are you going? Nah, nah. I'm doing a viewing party in Connecticut.

00:26:22.780 Oh, okay. Great. Um, where's that at? Just so people can come check you out.

00:26:25.900 At the Mohegan Sun. Gang, gang. At the Mohegan Sun. Um, but there's two huge title fights on that

00:26:30.780 card. I mean, not title fights, two huge lightweight fights. Oh yeah. This could have

00:26:34.320 a lot to do with you guys. Harmon versus Charles and then, uh, Gaethje versus Holloway. So that's

00:26:39.780 some big fights in the division. We'll see what happens after that. Wow. Yeah. Because,

00:26:45.620 but I've, you know, I've fought three of those four guys already and two of them I fought twice.

00:26:50.420 Yeah. I know, huh? Yeah. I fought Max twice. I fought Justin.

00:26:55.900 I fought Justin twice and fought Charles once. Do you have, what kind of outcome would

00:27:00.900 you prefer? Do you think? I don't really have a, I think people are kind of looking past

00:27:07.340 Max a little bit. I think Max can beat Justin. You know, of course, Justin could win, but

00:27:11.740 Max is tough. His rhythm, his range and his technique on the feet, you know, unless Justin

00:27:16.140 wrestles a little bit, I think Max can pick him apart and stay on the outside, but that's

00:27:19.220 what makes fighting so fun. We don't know until we watch it. And Charles and, and

00:27:24.380 Armand that can go either way. Both great grapplers. I would think Charles would have

00:27:29.060 a, uh, advantage standing up, but we got to see. Yeah. Because now if, if, if Max went

00:27:37.060 like, yeah, I'm just wondering, where do you, cause I got two wins over Max. I just lost.

00:27:42.120 My last loss was to Justin. If Max beats him, does he stay at 55 or does he go back to 45?

00:27:46.820 What do you think? Like, if you think like, do you feel like you have a certain amount of

00:27:53.460 fights left in you? What is that yet? Is it start to feel like that's an interesting thought. Do you

00:27:58.540 start to feel like, Oh, I think I, I might have one or two left in there. Or do you think you would

00:28:04.580 get a definite feeling from yourself when you're like, I think so. Right. Yeah. I don't even put a

00:28:09.540 number on it. I just like, even this last one, how I feel in the warmup room, how I feel walking

00:28:14.040 through the tunnel, walking into the crowd, getting into the octagon, like how I feel then

00:28:17.260 I felt good. You know, I felt like it wasn't time to stop. Right. So maybe next time, you know,

00:28:22.560 if I feel like that again, then it's not time to stop. I don't want to put a number. I just put

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00:30:48.260 good habit that much easier. What, what, how was it like, what was it like to get, thanks for talking

00:30:56.200 about it with me too, man. Oh, of course. What was it like to get like, um, cause if you were going

00:31:00.980 through like a, if there were some real tough, some of your toughest times after the Gaethje fight,

00:31:05.900 right before the BSD fight, how, what was it that made you able to stay in like, get ready for that

00:31:15.300 next fight? Cause that's a space where I honestly, I think a lot of people can relate to in their lives.

00:31:20.020 Like, like God, like, I don't feel, I don't feel great right here. Or, you know, there's something

00:31:27.920 in my life that's not perfect or that's not the way I wish it to be. That's not my will, you know,

00:31:33.540 and how to get ready then for something still that's important.

00:31:38.100 Like we were talking about earlier, I think just having a name, having a date to circle my calendar

00:31:42.840 kind of put me in, in the right direction mentally. Like I knew I had something to work towards. It was a

00:31:47.880 big challenge. It's a fight. It's what I've been doing my whole life. Like that kind of put me back

00:31:51.520 on the track where I needed to be. Obviously practicing mindfulness and speaking to therapy

00:31:56.920 and talking to my wife and stuff like that was helping along the way. But whenever I got the

00:32:00.300 name and the date for this next fight, everything's kind of clicked into, all right, this is what I need

00:32:04.660 to be doing. Wow. Yeah. It really drowned it out. All the, the idleness of sitting at home or

00:32:10.880 overthinking, you know, I had such a big challenge in front of me that that's all I focused on the

00:32:14.860 everything else, like blinders. That's what, that's how fighting is for me. You know,

00:32:18.520 is that part of the reasons why you also took that fight? You think, cause you're like,

00:32:22.900 yeah, you're like, I need a goal right now. Yeah. Wow. I was in the spot. It just happened.

00:32:27.040 They called where I was in the spot of my life, like, and mentally in a place where

00:32:30.240 whatever name they called with, I would say, yes, I just needed a challenge, you know, cause

00:32:34.660 I needed to be at war with something else besides myself. Cause I was fighting myself every day.

00:32:38.200 Yeah. Yeah. Man, that's fascinating. Yeah. So many times I'll sit around like fighting myself

00:32:44.140 instead of picking up, like putting something on the calendar. That is something I could

00:32:48.800 be a goal. Yeah. Uh, be a, something I could try and conquer a challenge, man. Yeah. If I'm not,

00:32:55.980 if I'm not at war with something, I'm at war with myself. That's crazy. Yeah, man. And sometimes I

00:33:01.780 don't even realize it. I'm sitting there, I'm pitching and hitting against, but I don't even know

00:33:05.600 what's going on. Yeah. And definitely down on the judge's scorecards. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not

00:33:11.780 winning the decision. Yeah. Bro, I'll be the judge dude. And I'll fucking be giving myself

00:33:17.460 shitty fucking. I'll be the judge and the jury. Yeah. I'm like, this guy sucks. He's guilty. 1.00

00:33:23.940 Yeah. Guilty, man. God, that's the same way I am, man. Um, but it's good too, because that

00:33:30.300 mindset and having that work problem, it, if you focus it on something, you could really,

00:33:35.380 you know, go far. Right. Yeah. Right. It's almost, it's that same, it's a gift that occurs.

00:33:39.360 Yes. You know, but recognize it having some ability to see it is also a gift because when

00:33:45.260 you're just in it and you're just a victim of all that and you just keep doing it, you're

00:33:48.800 reactive only. That's when it, that's when it feels like it can feel catastrophic sometimes.

00:33:54.620 For sure. Um, but then also it can feel that's the same stuff that draw, like just gives you

00:33:58.760 unending motivation, you know? Right. They have, so do you have, do you know for yourself,

00:34:04.320 do you have a fight that you want or you don't know yet? I want to fight for the belt. That's

00:34:07.820 what I want. You do. That's the last thing I have to do in this sport is be the undisputed

00:34:10.780 world champion. After I do that, anything you can do in the sport I've done. Right. You

00:34:15.200 know, I have 30 fights in UFC, been fighting a long time before the UFC. Like that's the

00:34:20.760 last thing I have to do. Yeah. Yeah. But also I don't want to attach myself to it too much

00:34:26.080 to where if it doesn't happen or if I never get another title shot that I judge my life's

00:34:32.080 work on that, you know? Like, I don't want to leave it like that. So I'm just really

00:34:35.380 practicing trying to be content, like in the place and space that I'm in, you know?

00:34:39.140 Yeah. Yeah, dude. I felt like when you won that fight, it's interesting how much, like

00:34:45.120 I was in that ball, like me and my, um, uh, comedian friend Amir, we're in this bar in

00:34:51.040 Australia. We're watching and I'm like holding on to some guy and they don't even know, like

00:34:54.660 everybody's just, people were on their edge of their seat. There was like, some guy left his

00:34:59.360 wife right there in it. Like people were a lot, like there was just so much going on,

00:35:05.040 man. But it felt like you almost felt the whole planet. It felt like taking an exhale,

00:35:10.980 like, Oh yeah. Like it felt like things were possible. That's what was craziest about it.

00:35:16.900 I think. And somebody had a great tweet. It was like, uh, Dustin for humanity. And I was

00:35:23.520 like, man, that's exactly how it felt. It was like the underdog came through again,

00:35:29.200 man. Yes. I think it made everybody just feel like, Oh, there's still things that can happen

00:35:35.900 in the world that, uh, like a guy stands a fighting chance for sure. Yeah. Dude, I've,

00:35:42.600 I'm missed a bounce back. Every time I take an L I come back, you know, I come back and

00:35:46.780 it's a challenge to myself every time. Cause I've never lost two fights in a row getting

00:35:50.920 knocked out by Gaethje jumping right back in camp, you know, and unsure of the future.

00:35:54.600 What if I, you know, and I was in a bad place. What if I lose this fight? Where am I

00:35:58.000 going to be at then? You know, but to, to get my hand raised and put on a performance

00:36:03.420 like that, it's just like, fuck man, hardware pays off. Yeah. Dude, that strut after, what 0.99

00:36:08.940 did Trump say to you after the fight? I was, uh, I couldn't hear what he was saying. I was

00:36:12.920 talking to Dana and then I was, somebody sitting next to Dana was telling me they bet like 200

00:36:16.180 K on me or something like that. And I was trying to get my 20% from him. That's what I was talking

00:36:19.940 about. Yeah. Yeah. You're just walking around collecting. Yeah. Like, Hey, always be closing.

00:36:26.160 The work is done, baby. We got to collect. It looks like I'm talking to Trump, but I'm

00:36:29.460 talking to somebody, Dana and somebody sitting next to him. Oh, I see. Yeah. You're doing

00:36:34.820 good. You're great. You're phenomenal. Vice president. Um, yeah, that's unbelievable, man.

00:36:42.700 God. What is that? How soon do you, after you say you end up knocking someone out, what's

00:36:48.760 the appropriate amount of time for you have to go over there and check on them? Well, I guess

00:36:53.700 everyone's different, but he was kind of sitting down for a while. So, and, um, the ref was

00:36:57.600 waiting for us to get in the middle. So I kind of helped him walk to the middle, talk

00:37:00.520 to him a little bit. Um, it just depends how bad it is and how much they're moving, you

00:37:04.760 know? Right. You never know, man, that's so wild. Um, yeah, because I guess, can you kind

00:37:13.200 of tell how, cause you, you haven't been, haven't, haven't been knocked out or gotten knocked

00:37:18.660 unconscious, you know, what it's like. I mean, you guys have that throughout your careers.

00:37:22.480 Yeah. Cause nobody's around as knockouts as much as you guys. Do you start to gauge

00:37:26.860 how well a guy is after it kind of thing?

00:37:29.080 See, like I've been in the corner of so many guys, uh, who have been knocked out and I've

00:37:34.300 been around fights for so long. So I kind of see when people go back to the locker room

00:37:38.120 and they don't even remember what happened. They keep asking the same questions over and

00:37:41.660 over again. Like that's when, you know, it's, it's, it's serious.

00:37:44.540 Wow. Yeah. So I didn't see, I didn't go to his locker room and speak to him after. So

00:37:48.260 I don't know where he was, but he seemed like he shook back pretty quick in there. He was

00:37:51.020 talking pretty clear. Yeah. Yeah. Has, um, Dana and Sean, have they offered you a title match

00:37:57.280 yet? No. Okay. No, I don't know what's next, but I think we're going to hear soon.

00:38:03.300 You think that? Yeah, I know. Oh, that seems interesting. Yeah. News alert. Yeah. Uh, what about

00:38:13.540 boxing? You see this stuff? Like, do you start to think as you get further in your career that

00:38:19.360 there's a lot of people fighting, going to boxing? Tyson Pedro just went to boxing.

00:38:26.060 Did he? Yep. Wow. He just started, um, there's guys, uh, who go like, um, that'll fight like

00:38:32.720 in the Jake Paul, you know, in the, in that world. Right. Do you see yourself ever doing something

00:38:37.200 like that? Would you ever count something like that out? Or I just, I'm 35 and I have,

00:38:41.380 you know, I think five fights, six fights left on my current contract with UFC. I don't know if I'm

00:38:48.080 ever going to fight that out. You know, am I going to fight six more times and become a free agent?

00:38:51.480 I don't, I don't know, but I would love to box. Yeah. So even if you were to go to boxing, do you

00:38:56.080 have, does that UFC have to have a part in that fight? If I'm, well, if you're still in the contract,

00:39:01.000 if I fight whatever's left on my contract, then I'm free agent that can do whatever I want.

00:39:05.100 Right. Yeah. But if not, and there's not like a, an equal parting, then even if you were to go do

00:39:11.140 boxing, like Tyron Woodley went and boxed, he was, he was out of his contract. Oh, he was out of his

00:39:15.700 contract. Yeah. I think the only person who's ever done that is Connor where UFC was co-promoted it

00:39:19.660 and got a cut of it, but it was such a, it was yeah. Against Mayweather, but it was such a big

00:39:23.040 fight. Everybody won, you know, that, that makes sense. Other than that, I don't think the UFC would

00:39:27.020 like let anybody do that. Yeah. Cause it would open up a can of worms. I think it would just open up a

00:39:31.980 crazy can of worms. We're now Dana. He doesn't want to, it doesn't seem like help

00:39:35.080 promote a lot of that. Yeah. And he's built the UFC. The brands is so strong now. I don't know

00:39:41.660 if they want to give any other brands the rub by co-promoting and stuff like that. Yeah. And we

00:39:46.300 fight mixed martial arts, you know, boxing is a part of mixed martial arts, but it's a whole

00:39:51.560 different thing, man. Do you think it would be something like when you think about that,

00:39:55.040 is it something that's kind of interesting or do you feel like, uh, I just like mixed martial arts

00:40:00.160 because you're great on your, you know, one of the, you're like, even with BSD or BDS,

00:40:05.680 I can't remember, but he, um, BSD, BSD, he, it felt like he didn't, they didn't want to have you

00:40:12.420 on the feet that much, you know? Yeah. It felt like it, it wasn't a preference of his, right?

00:40:17.260 Just watching. And every time we went to the ground, I took myself down. I never got taken

00:40:21.820 down once by him. I was jumping guillotines, you know, ending up on my back. Yeah. I never got

00:40:25.700 taken out, but we, we worked wrestling really hard at camp. We thought he was going to be

00:40:28.680 diving for my legs. You know, he just seemed a little bit slow on the feet. And, uh, you know,

00:40:33.900 if you stand in front of me, he didn't have great head movement in his fights. The videos we watched,

00:40:37.300 if you stand in front of me, like I'm going to get you, you know, something's going to land.

00:40:41.060 That's going to hurt you, especially over five rounds. That's why I asked the UFC for it to be

00:40:44.640 25 minute fight. I didn't want to do three rounds. Cause if this guy pushes me against the fence and I

00:40:49.680 lose one round, right. You know, like I think the better fighter wins over the long run. So I asked them

00:40:55.620 for five rounds and they gave it to us. Yeah. What is that? What are those moments like when

00:41:01.060 you're just up against the fence and it just feels like, it feels like two neighbors kind

00:41:06.480 of just like, are like having an issue about something.

00:41:10.540 Bro, fighting is like when you're not touching each other, like when you're squared off, like

00:41:15.480 fainting and throwing punches, that's just like, it's, it's chaotic. But when you get to the fence

00:41:19.660 or you get on the ground and you're kind of, you know, pummeling and stuff like that, that's 0.98

00:41:22.820 when like reality sets in where you get like a moment of clarity, like, Oh shit, this is happening. 0.99

00:41:26.520 Oh damn. I'm against the fence. He's kneeing me. But like, you don't think you don't have time to 0.99

00:41:30.060 think when you're fighting, like if you're scrambling on the ground or throwing combinations

00:41:34.100 and blocking kicks and firing punches back, it's, it's kind of chaotic. You're not thinking you're

00:41:38.200 just reacting. But whenever you get to the fence and a guy's clenching you and you have time to

00:41:41.620 think you're like, Oh shit, that's when it sets in. This is happening. Wow. Yeah. Cause you almost 0.99

00:41:46.120 have moments. There's times where you see the fighters kind of look around or they're,

00:41:49.020 they'll just be locked in a moment and they'll just kind of engage with somebody almost,

00:41:52.560 yeah, it's, it's, it's surreal. Like when that moment of clarity sets in, when, when the fight

00:41:56.900 slows down a little bit, it's, it's pretty crazy, man. Cause then you can hear the crowd and it's

00:42:01.180 sometimes I can hear the commentators. Like I'll hear Joe Rogan through the fence talking. It's,

00:42:04.720 it's, it's crazy. Um, if boxing, yeah. So who would you fight if you had to do a celebrity

00:42:10.840 boxing match? Do you have any thoughts on it ever? Biden maybe? Oh dude. Yeah. He's already,

00:42:17.860 he already lost time. The bell might wobble him when it starts. You ready? Fight.

00:42:22.560 Ding. He's like, Oh shit. Yeah. I think even if they let him use like 12 year old kids as 1.00

00:42:28.060 smelling salts though, I think he might bounce back, you know, or fight Hunter Biden.

00:42:32.620 Oh, that'll be a good one. Coked up. Sure. Yeah. That'll be a good one. I'd hate to fight

00:42:38.900 all coked up. Yeah. It'd be the worst. Um, yeah, I'm trying to think of something else I was going

00:42:46.260 to ask you about. They should do Trump Biden. They should do it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That'll

00:42:52.500 be a good one. That'd be a pay-per-view blockbuster. Yeah. I wonder who would actually, well, Trump

00:42:58.420 would probably win, I think from pushing him over. I don't know if Trump, well, Trump has,

00:43:03.180 does this. He has like that. Seems a little bit more pep in his stout. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

00:43:08.300 He might have a little bit more. Um, I'd bet the money line on that one. Trump. Did you, uh, can

00:43:15.520 you bet on yourself legally? I used to be able to, um, ever since like maybe a year ago, they put in

00:43:20.800 that, that claw or that rule. We can't. So I completely stopped, but I still bet on boxing

00:43:25.260 and football and stuff. Can anyone in your house that could be, I bet on myself, sorry to cut you

00:43:29.440 off. I bet on myself a bunch of times coming up. Yeah. Like when I first started fighting in Vegas,

00:43:32.860 you know? Oh yeah. Really? What's the most that you ever bet on yourself? You think not much,

00:43:37.400 maybe 500, a thousand, maybe. That's a lot though. When you're coming up. Yeah. That was a lot.

00:43:42.340 That's a lot, dude. But I don't know if I've ever laid a thousand dollars on somebody. Maybe I have,

00:43:46.400 I can't, I can't get in one of my accounts. So I haven't been able to bet on you in a long time,

00:43:50.880 but that last one would have been a good one. I know. I think by knockout, I was like plus three

00:43:55.680 70. Oh God. I got to fucking figure out. I think they stole my money, but, um, but yeah,

00:44:02.640 I don't even know what company was, but yeah. Um, what do you think, man? I was going to

00:44:07.260 say this. A lot of people are talking about aliens all the time and I'm talking about Joe

00:44:11.960 Rogan, but, um, if they attack us, right. And we have to send five UFC fighters to save

00:44:18.780 the planet. You get to go, right. And you have to pick four to go with you. Who do you think

00:44:24.500 you got? Like current fighters are just all time. Ooh, let's say current just to keep it.

00:44:29.820 Yeah. John Jones for sure. Oh, John Jones for sure. Why? Cause of the length. He's a,

00:44:36.260 he's the best to do it. Right. Yeah. And he's big and he's big. Yeah. So we got that. Maybe,

00:44:41.340 maybe get a small person. We need like a one 25 or something. Maybe the champ Pantoja. So we got a,

00:44:48.260 we got a big guy, got a small guy. Pantoja speaks Spanish too. And I don't know what aliens speak,

00:44:52.540 but that's good to have some diversity on our side. Maybe toss a girl in there too. Yeah. Cause we 1.00

00:44:56.920 might, you never know. Yeah. Who's the new girl that just came over from PFL? Yeah. Kayla Harrison.

00:45:01.720 Yeah. Toss her on the team too. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So you got Kayla Harrison, John Jones,

00:45:07.000 Pantages. Pantoja. Pantoja. Sorry. All right. And, uh, damn. Do we need another big guy? You

00:45:14.180 think how big are these aliens? Well, I'll say this. A lot of them, their lateral movement struggles,

00:45:18.880 but they, uh, they can like blink and order Starbucks. So it's a lot of mental game. You might

00:45:25.220 need a. Dang. I'd bring Gaethje, you know, I'd bring Gaethje. Yeah. You guys are warriors.

00:45:32.140 He can go on the front line, like the wrecking ball. Just we'll send him over first. Yeah.

00:45:35.500 There you go. Yeah. Yeah. They, they, they asked for somebody else, but you just tell them it was

00:45:40.560 him. Yeah. He would go anyway, man. Yeah. The, one of the best things that I ever saw was like one of

00:45:47.340 the first UFC fights ever went to. He's just backstage. He's in the backstage and literally just walking

00:45:52.680 around looking, almost looking like he's going to fight anybody. He's like, I'm ready to fight

00:45:56.540 anybody. He was fighting that night. No, he wasn't. That was the crazy part, but it was just like

00:46:01.920 showing up, like showing I'm ready. You know, it seems like there's a lot of like, um, like,

00:46:07.820 cause you just get so few chances to show your shine and your sport. Well, every dude, every time we go

00:46:13.480 out there, it's the Superbowl. You know, it's not like we have, we trained three, four months to

00:46:18.280 prepare for this moment. It could be 15 or 25 minutes. The whole world's watching. There's no

00:46:21.960 redos. There's no finger pointing my, you know, my teammates weren't picking up the slack or

00:46:26.260 whatever. It's all you. And if you lose, it's going to be a while till you get that opportunity

00:46:31.100 again. So every one's a Superbowl, you know, it's such every fight's the biggest fight.

00:46:36.940 It's exciting, but it's, it's scary at the same time. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's what makes it so,

00:46:42.620 uh, appealing to so many people. I mean, the sport's grown so much since you've been in it. Have you

00:46:47.160 felt that as a competitor? A hundred percent. Really? Yeah. Big time. Not as a, as a competitor,

00:46:52.280 but like as a fan of the sport and just watching it grow in the fan, the new fan base, you know,

00:46:57.180 cause when I first started, it was older, like older men watching this now kids. And even

00:47:02.260 grandmothers are talking about fighting at the grocery store. You know, if I go get some groceries 1.00

00:47:05.520 right now, I'm going to run into somebody and it can be back in the day, it was just like old dudes 0.99

00:47:11.060 with beards, you know, talking about MMA. Now it's such a big sport. Everybody's kids are talking

00:47:16.120 about it. Soccer moms are talking about it. It's cool to see the growth, the, the growth,

00:47:19.960 but it's just crazy. The different wave of fans that come in with that. You know,

00:47:24.320 did you feel the growth, like being in the ring and stuff has, has the size of venues that you guys

00:47:28.660 have been in and changed and stuff too over the years? Yeah. The crowds. Well, when I first started

00:47:32.920 fighting in Vegas, it was at the Palms. It might've, I don't even know, 1500, 2000 at the, at the,

00:47:38.180 uh, yeah. Really? And it was, that was the UFC fight night. That was WEC UFC. They did big events

00:47:43.580 like 10,000 or they go to the MGM or the Mandalay. They might have like 18,000. It was big,

00:47:48.360 but they would only do pay-per-views every few months. You know, now there's a fight every week.

00:47:53.280 Yeah. Every week. That's another thing that was cool at the beginning of fighting too. When I first

00:47:57.160 got to the UFC, like you win a big fight, that win, that high lasted for months because that's

00:48:01.720 how long it was until the next event. Oh, so you, yeah, you got to be the real. Everybody's still

00:48:06.420 talking about that last card. Now you went on a Saturday. It's already, you, you, by the time you fly

00:48:11.100 back home, it's fight week again for somebody, you know? So the, the focus of the media and

00:48:14.920 everything switches to the new, the new guys coming up. So I've noticed that big time.

00:48:19.960 Yeah. It's kind of a blessing and a curse. Cause also then if you don't get the win, it's like

00:48:23.140 that goes away pretty quick too. Right. Cause somebody's getting fucked up in the next Saturday.

00:48:27.240 Yeah. Yeah. And you're almost hoping somebody gets really fucked up so that people forget quicker. 0.99

00:48:32.660 Yeah. I hope somebody gets kicked in the head that way they're talking about that one, 1.00

00:48:35.240 you know? Yeah. Yeah. I remember that. Cause I remember Dominic, Dominic Ray, Ray, uh, 1.00

00:48:42.100 Ray yes. No, Dominic Cruz also got a head to head kick that win. Uh, Cheeto, Cheeto.

00:48:48.760 That was against Cheeto. Yeah. Yeah. Cheeto's a cool dude, man. Yeah. Cheeto's a neat guy, man.

00:48:53.280 Oh, it was, it was powerful to see him go against Sean for, uh, to stay in there.

00:48:57.800 Dude, he took some damage. Man, he did. That knee.

00:49:00.320 Oh my God. I had to rewatch it cause I was doing media right after the fight. So I missed it,

00:49:05.380 but I went home and watched it and yeah. It made my throat hurt for some reason.

00:49:10.360 He's, he's never been finished bro. Never. Yeah. I think he wanted to stand on that. It was amazing.

00:49:15.480 I was showing it. It was just like. Oh my God. Jeez. Pez dispenser. Bro. I feel like, yeah,

00:49:26.540 I feel like you. That ain't good for you. Somebody just opened up a pecan. Yeah. Cracked

00:49:30.940 the pecan right there. Remember that sound? Oh yeah. Oh yeah. You guys have pecan trees in your

00:49:34.940 yard growing up? Yeah. I used to, uh, gather them up and, and go sell them. So I could, that was beer

00:49:40.320 money. Was it? Oh yeah. Yeah, bro. Yeah. When I was growing up, dude, a sack of pecans was something

00:49:45.320 nice, dude. I don't even know what they're going for now, but I used to have the tools where you,

00:49:49.020 it rolls on the ground and picks them up. Yeah. Yeah, dude. We used to go pick them up. My buddy,

00:49:54.060 Robert, he was thought he was kind of, his parents thought he was haunted or whatever. Cause he had

00:49:58.780 some, his mom was a nurse or whatever, but his dad was out of work, but they, uh, he, we would go

00:50:05.720 over to his house. They had a couple of pecan trees and we go pick them up. And sometimes you get them

00:50:09.740 maybe a little too, uh, early. Yeah. The green, they're bitter. Yeah. You still have it, but you

00:50:14.480 don't, you wish you hadn't had it. Yeah. Sometimes you got to shake the tree to make them fall too.

00:50:19.000 Really? Damn. You never threw, threw like sticks up in the tree to make them? No, we throw sticks, 1.00

00:50:23.120 but I wasn't over there just fucking shaking that bitch too. Oh yeah. Climb up, get on a brand, 1.00

00:50:28.340 shake them down. Like Tai Tuivasa or somebody over there. Yeah, bro. Oh, you can shake it.

00:50:31.380 Hell of a tree. Those bitches up, man. Yeah, bro. Like Louisiana, we're the only people that call 1.00

00:50:35.680 them pecans. Everywhere it's pecan and you've traveled a lot. Yeah. I hear pecan a lot. You hear

00:50:41.380 pecan outside of? No, that's true. I don't. Oh, look at this right here. I'm about to shake that bad boy.

00:50:46.260 Oh yeah. Mr. Weatherall. Look at this thing.

00:50:54.240 I don't know what's going on here, man. This dude, it looks like he's. Look at that. Ooh,

00:50:59.320 shorty. Look at all the pecans falling. Bro. Twerk team. Shorty getting wicked, huh? Shaking

00:51:05.920 him branches, boy. Damn. They need to do a Mr. Weatherall remix to this then. Look at that. That 1.00

00:51:11.440 thing. Shake what your mama gave, y'all. You know what I mean? Bro, that's crazy. I wonder

00:51:15.340 how many it says they got. Did he say? That's unbelievable. I mean, that's thousands of pecans

00:51:20.180 falling. Because you know the green thing that goes around them? You know when they're ready,

00:51:23.040 it opens up. It looks like. And then it has a shell in there. Right. But if you shake that

00:51:26.300 when they're open like that, bro, they'll all fall. Bro, pecans were so good. Sometimes

00:51:31.200 you would get them at the right exact time and it would be a little bit sweet. Yeah. Oh, that

00:51:36.920 was so nice, bro. I loved having that. I like them fresh like that. Yeah.

00:51:41.060 Get you a little snack. They were pretty good. What we got in the news? Nick? Drake

00:51:48.700 gifted Sexy Red, Aiden Ross, J. Cole, and 21 Savage a heart chain. But many people did

00:51:58.040 not think it looked like a heart. Oh, wow. That's a scrotum. Yeah, bro. That's a different

00:52:04.100 set of pecans. That's a beanbag right there. Yeah. It's got veins on it and everything. Damn,

00:52:10.280 he gave that to people to wear on their neck. Dude, I'm not wearing some mixed guy's nuts 1.00

00:52:16.320 on my neck. Okay. I don't know how. I don't care what if even if it matches with a belt

00:52:21.940 I have. You ever see the big trucks with the balls hanging off the back on the toe? That's

00:52:27.940 what that looks like, bro. Is that some kind of an ownership thing if you send somebody's

00:52:32.040 nuts to somebody? That to me seems like I wouldn't. Like if somebody sent me their nuts,

00:52:39.440 even if it was a hero of mine, you know, even if it was damn. I think of somebody. Willie 0.98

00:52:48.480 Nelson or whatever. Right. Yeah. That dude sends me a golden nuts. I ain't wearing them bitches, 1.00

00:52:56.800 dude. I love them, but I'm not wearing them bitches. What if Lance Armstrong send you one 1.00

00:53:01.720 nut? Would you wear that? I'd wear maybe just an earring. Yeah. Especially if I'm biking,

00:53:10.380 I'd wear that bitch. Just one. Solo. Bro, having one nut has to be cool. It's almost like mistletoe, 1.00

00:53:17.080 I feel like, you know? I feel like at that point. Yeah. Yeah, I think having one nut has got

00:53:23.380 to be like a unique thing. Two nuts. I don't want more than two. I know that. Yeah. Not

00:53:29.000 two is a perfect amount. Yeah. Two really is, huh? Yeah. It's your balance. Yeah. You almost

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00:57:30.880 this podcast. What else we got in the news, Nick?

00:57:36.300 Governor DeSantis enacted a social media ban for children under 14. It's supposed to go into

00:57:44.000 effect January 1st. And kids 14 to 16 need their parents' permission.

00:57:49.360 My wife was just talking about that. 0.95

00:57:51.940 Really? Yeah. Florida Governor Ronison signed one of the country's most restrictive social

00:57:55.160 media bills into law Monday, banning children under the age of 14 from having accounts and

00:57:59.560 requiring children age 14 to 16 to have parental consent to hold one.

00:58:03.840 Huh. What do you think about that? You guys have a child, D. What's that like for you?

00:58:07.980 Do you think about this kind of stuff and the effects it could have on your kid?

00:58:10.940 For sure, man. Yeah, we do. And she's not on social media or anything like that, but she does

00:58:15.940 have an iPad we give her on the weekends. She can use like Friday night, Saturday night

00:58:20.740 when she's out of school, she's on it, you know, or if we're traveling, she'll watch movies

00:58:24.160 and play games on her iPad. But yeah, I don't think it's good. You know, like being at that

00:58:29.920 age, 14 start, you know, high school, your friends and who's popular at school, you know,

00:58:36.380 that affects you like you're, I don't know, it's hard to put into words, but it's a big deal,

00:58:41.000 man. Think about how tough it was without this. Yeah. Now, now you have this and it's

00:58:45.780 just, you see the bullying and stuff like that on there. I don't think a kid can handle

00:58:49.220 all that. Yeah, I agree. I mean, well, they have so many kids that like have had taken

00:58:54.420 their lives, had a lot of issues with online bullying. And as a parent, the scary thing

00:58:58.940 as a parent, you don't even know it's happening sometimes, I think. So that's probably one of

00:59:03.860 the things I think would probably be good if they had. But also like raising a kid, all

00:59:08.200 of her friends are going to be on social media when they get that age. And she might be the

00:59:11.980 weird one out if we don't let her. It's a weird place to be in. Yeah. Yeah. I think a lot of

00:59:16.240 parents don't set controls on their kids' social media. They just think the kid isn't going to

00:59:20.280 get into stuff, you know? Yeah. But I think, yeah, I don't have any children. But yeah, it would

00:59:25.400 seem like as a parent, you got to make those choices because your child's not really going to,

00:59:28.960 you know, they're going to make some of them, but you got to really look out for your kid at all

00:59:33.460 in every space. Yeah. And that's crazy. I'll discuss somebody could get to your child through social

00:59:38.120 media. It's just so wild, you know? Right. And just the stuff they're exposed to, man,

00:59:41.800 the internet's a wild place. Oh, it's horrible, dude. She has like kids' YouTube. We have like

00:59:46.640 the parental settings and stuff on that. She can go on YouTube on our stuff. But yeah,

00:59:52.120 I don't want her seeing even some stuff on YouTube is crazy. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. What

00:59:59.080 else did I say? Oh, I saw that kid still hitting home runs. You see that kid? Big Al, remember

01:00:03.320 him? Big Al? No. The children's, he was a child, an Italian child. I think he's, remember

01:00:16.180 he hits, what did he call it? This guy would hit home runs all the time.

01:00:23.460 Hi, my name's Alfred D'Elia. At home, they call me Big Al and I hit dingers.

01:00:28.160 Hi, my name's Alfred D'Elia. At home, they call me Big Al and I hit dingers. And he grew

01:00:31.940 up. Oh, it's him as an adult? Yeah. He's still hitting dingers. Dingers. That's got to be

01:00:41.160 heavy for kids. Yeah. I think kids, yeah. Because if something happens to you when you're a kid

01:00:43.940 and it goes big on social media, then you're that kid forever. Right, right. If you're like

01:00:47.240 the kid that like yells a slur or something or calls somebody a G-A-Y or something when they're

01:00:54.000 on like dental gas or whatever, and then that's who you are forever. Like you can run for mayor

01:01:00.940 years later on that, you know? Yeah. The dental gas will get you. Oh God, that shit is fun,

01:01:06.820 huh? You ever get any good gas, any good stuff to huff out there? Ah, whippets back in the 1.00

01:01:12.820 day. Not the dental gas. Back when I used to work at a restaurant, we used to crack them

01:01:17.600 whippets. Oh. Dude, the whipped cream, whenever they finally put it on dessert, that shit was 0.98

01:01:21.500 just kind of dribbling out of it. It was dribbling out of my lungs. 1.00

01:01:27.660 Yeah, bro, there was nothing left. There was no whipped cream left for your dessert.

01:01:31.980 Oh man. What's the number one fight that you would make outside of your division? Is there a fight

01:01:38.360 that... I really want to see the 145 pound champ, Taporia. I want to see him fight Max.

01:01:44.980 You do? Yeah, because like Volk was the only guy Max couldn't beat at 45. He's, you know,

01:01:48.780 pretty much cleaned out the division. Now there's a new young blood, great striker,

01:01:52.440 good grappler. I think that would be an incredible fight, man. Max versus Taporia.

01:01:57.380 Yeah, that's wild. Because who just called him out too? Sugar Sean just called him out?

01:02:00.800 Hold on. Oh, that would be a go-in too. Yeah. Yeah, that would be a go-in.

01:02:04.080 Do Max and Sugar Sean, are they in the same...

01:02:07.280 No. Max is 45. Sean's 135.

01:02:10.060 Okay, wow.

01:02:11.440 But Sean's pretty tall, you know, pretty decent size for the division, but Max is a lot thicker

01:02:15.900 than him. So, but Sean might move up out of his division.

01:02:19.840 I don't know. I'm not sure. Yeah. He was talking about it.

01:02:23.820 Do you think about that for any more of your fights? Are you happy in your division?

01:02:27.180 I'm happy. Like a lot of people wanted me to go up to 170, but dude, like this morning I weighed

01:02:33.220 myself when I woke up, I was 173. You know, I can't, I can't fight at 170 pounds. Those guys are

01:02:38.080 going to rehydrate and be 190 for fight night, you know? Yeah.

01:02:40.420 Like at the top, at the highest level, a guy with 20 pounds on you on fight night, you

01:02:46.780 know, in grappling positions and side control, half guard is just, that weight really matters

01:02:51.460 when guys know how to use it. Yeah. Yeah.

01:02:54.660 What about, um, this guy, you ever heard him? Blood Diamond is his name?

01:03:00.640 Yeah. He's Adesanya's friend? Yeah. Yeah. I don't, I think I've seen him fight, but I don't

01:03:04.880 know much about him.

01:03:06.820 I wonder if there'd ever be a fight for like the real, you know, the less.

01:03:10.420 You know, the, uh, he's a 55. No, what is he? One, one seven. If you'd ever go up just

01:03:18.740 to put an end to the, like, I would fight at one seven. It feels like a really, really

01:03:25.040 big fight, but I'm not trying to make a run in the welterweight division, man. Those

01:03:27.640 guys are huge. Yeah. I used to get a lot heavier though. Like the last couple of years, I've

01:03:33.180 been walking around a lot lighter. Really? Yeah. Outside of training camp, I've been eating

01:03:37.260 clean, you know, before I would get in shape during camp. And then after the fight, eat

01:03:42.320 pizza every day and enjoy life, you know, but I've, the older I got, the easier it is

01:03:46.100 for me to just eat healthy and be all right. I don't need to eat all that crazy stuff.

01:03:49.340 Right. You just start caring about you. You just start having a more of a general care

01:03:53.420 about yourself. Um, what else? Oh yeah. I saw this right here. Fury as parents offered version

01:04:00.560 of school class photo without complex needs pupils. So you can get, you can pay more money.

01:04:08.480 And if your school has like special needs kids or whatever, they'll take them out of the photos 1.00

01:04:14.280 at school. Huh? I mean, that's crazy to me, dude. That's, it's just everything you got

01:04:22.560 to pay for. Now, soon they're going to make it. They're going to start. Every kid is on

01:04:26.040 crutches in the picture, right? So, and if you pay a little bit more than a couple kids

01:04:30.620 come off crutches, then somebody gets, uh, you know, somebody will get every kid like

01:04:36.880 loses like body hair or whatever. Just, it's going to get, I feel like you can have to keep

01:04:40.880 paying to get an actual picture of your child, you know? Yeah. No, I didn't, I didn't see that.

01:04:48.220 But yeah, everybody's going to start in a wheelchair and the more you pay, then you finally 0.97

01:04:52.020 get, get the crutches from the wheelchair. Yeah. Yeah. A boot, no crutches. Yeah. We keep moving

01:04:56.360 up. Just an arm brace. Yeah. Shoulder sling, the more you pay. Yeah. Neck brace. Right. Um,

01:05:03.200 that's ridiculous. Oh man. Um, yeah. What do you feel like, man? Do you feel like you're 0.98

01:05:10.360 getting towards the end of your career? Do you feel like you're just, you're figuring

01:05:13.900 it out? Do you feel like it's up to you? Do you feel like it's up to the UFC? Where

01:05:17.580 does it, what does it feel like? Kind of. It's definitely up to me. And, uh, you know,

01:05:22.660 my, my wife, my coaches, they want me to keep going. My wife wants me to stop on my coaches.

01:05:27.300 No, I still have it. Um, I'm just taking it one fight at a time. I still feel good. Like

01:05:32.300 I said, my wife wants me to stop though. My daughter wants me to stop too. Oh, she does.

01:05:36.240 Yeah. What did she say? Well, yeah. Well like, what is that like? Cause at a certain

01:05:39.720 point it kind of turns on for your kid, what's going on. She's old enough now. She knows that

01:05:43.340 I fight, you know, she knows what it is. Um, and she wants me to be home. You know,

01:05:47.840 when I do camps, I'm gone for eight weeks. They'll come out for two weeks. We try not

01:05:52.140 to do more than two weeks apart. So I'll do like the first two weeks and they'll meet

01:05:55.200 me and I'll do the last two weeks. But, uh, she doesn't want me to fight anymore. She 0.97

01:05:59.760 doesn't want to see me come home with stitches. You know, since she was a baby, she's been

01:06:02.800 like pulling stitches out of my face and stuff after fights. Oh, that's insane. Yeah.

01:06:06.880 It's almost, that's almost like, um, on, uh, lady and the tramp when the kids meet at the

01:06:13.160 spaghetti or something a little bit, it's a different version of that. Yeah. Where the

01:06:17.420 puppies meet or whatever. Um, what's your favorite business to you about? You, you got

01:06:22.180 involved in some businesses outside of work, man. What's that been like for you? Becoming

01:06:25.260 more of like a business guy. Is that enough of a thing to entertain you enough outside of

01:06:33.540 the sport and to keep you busy enough? Like has that started to tip the scales enough?

01:06:38.660 I think that's another thing that happens in people's lives who also have the opportunity

01:06:42.800 to get into businesses at a certain point. Uh, the business, you know, can start to become

01:06:48.600 a something that still, um, appeases them and makes them feel, you know, like busy, like

01:06:55.220 you'd like to stay busy. Yeah. But it's about balance. Like I can't do too much of the

01:06:59.600 business because it takes away from the fighting and fighting still my main thing, but the business

01:07:04.240 stuff keeps me busy. It's fun. It's new. You know, I'm learning a lot. Um, I have the hot

01:07:08.140 sauce, have a bourbon, have a liquor store in Lafayette, um, hop water. I'm, I'm, I'm, uh,

01:07:15.140 partner with them, you know, just have a lot of stuff going on outside of fighting that

01:07:18.460 keeps me busy. And, uh, it's, that's good, man. You know, like I said, I have to be busy.

01:07:22.480 I have to be busy. Yeah. But it's, but it's balanced. Yeah. It's balanced.

01:07:26.860 So right now you train right now. Yeah. I'm gonna go box tonight. And, uh, this Friday

01:07:32.160 I'm gonna do jujitsu, but I'm still training. Okay. Um, five mile frost. What do y'all do?

01:07:39.520 Five mile Sundays, five mile Sundays. Yeah. Yeah, man. I'm all this fun, huh? Yeah. I do it

01:07:43.720 fasted. Like at the end of my training camp, I do 24 hour fast and then finish my fast with

01:07:49.340 the run. Then I'll break my fast, you know, like for run, Madonna or whatever. Not that, huh?

01:07:53.420 Yeah. That's not it. No, it's similar. Yeah. Yeah. Somebody was doing that. Yeah. At this

01:07:59.280 vape shop. It is Ramadan right now. Yeah. It's gotta be. Yeah. This fucking guy wouldn't 1.00

01:08:05.000 shut up about it. A mirror probably. Yeah. Could have been a mirror, but yeah, this guy 1.00

01:08:09.420 kept fucking vaping. I'm like, dude, if you vape enough fucking watermelon, that's counts 0.99

01:08:14.280 as eating. If you do 200 puffs, dude, that's counts as eating. Um, April 9th. What other 0.99

01:08:22.600 avenue can we go down here? Dustin, is there something else that you want to think about

01:08:25.200 or like that? How have you been doing, man? Um, I've been doing pretty good, dude. I think,

01:08:32.320 you know, I still, yeah, everything's been fun. I think sometimes I get busy with work

01:08:40.120 and it feels like I don't even know what I'm doing. You're just going, almost going through

01:08:43.860 the motion sometimes. So it's like, uh, that feels tough sometimes. Or it just feels like

01:08:50.840 a challenge, I guess. Like, am I doing anything that means anything or am I just like showing up

01:08:57.660 to work each day? Like clocking in. Yeah. Even though it's your own job and things you want to

01:09:03.180 be doing, it's still like sometimes feels like that. Um, what else? Yeah. I still have a lot

01:09:09.920 of trouble, like feeling like proud of myself. You know, I think about that kind of stuff a lot.

01:09:13.820 Um, and I talked about that with people on the podcast, just like what it's like to,

01:09:19.720 it just so hard for me to like, people are always like, man, you should take a moment and just feel

01:09:24.520 happy. And it's like, it just, I always want to, there's always a part of me that's trying to

01:09:30.960 figure out the next thing. You know, it's really hard to just feel good about something, you know?

01:09:37.340 Yeah. So I don't know what that's about. Um, what else outside of that? Your show's going good

01:09:46.580 in Louisiana? Yeah, dude, we had fun. That was some of my best shows, man. I know you guys came

01:09:50.840 out to the last one at UNO and, uh, and that was awesome. We still have a lot of people that talk

01:09:55.900 about that. You were there. I ran into a guy at the gym the other day. He's like, yeah, you brought

01:09:59.820 out Dustin. That was awesome. Um, but we had some great shows this weekend. Nice. Um, I just got a

01:10:07.200 Cybertruck too. Oh, you were telling me that. Yeah. You got it. Yeah. How is it? It's wild,

01:10:13.260 bro. I mean, for one, you feel like you kind of work at Lowe's kind of a little because it feels

01:10:19.360 like you're supposed to be like delivering something to somebody, but you never drop it off.

01:10:23.680 What do you put back there? I don't know. It's just the whole car feels a little bit like an

01:10:27.660 appliance. Yeah. So it, that it feels like, um, it feels like sometimes somebody's just going to

01:10:33.080 open up the back and just put a TV dinner in it. You know, it just has this like kind of,

01:10:38.280 or just put a load of laundry in there and just press a button, you know, it has an appliance.

01:10:42.560 He kind of feel, but then it makes this sound when you go fast and it literally feels like you're

01:10:48.080 going into the future. Nice. And some people don't know what it is. Like there was a guy who like,

01:10:54.860 I don't know if he was homeless or not, but he just, he just seemed really homeless. And he,

01:10:59.500 he was like, what is it? What is it? You know? And then he just kind of started yelling at it and

01:11:07.360 just cracked a beer open. And I was like, God, I feel a little bit like, cause people look over at

01:11:16.540 it and then, well, first I thought the windows were tinted, right? And they're not. So I'm like,

01:11:22.360 Elon fucking, how much does tint these windows? Probably like 112 bucks, bro. And I ordered this 0.99

01:11:28.000 bitch for you. Yeah. Oh, you got a buddy here? We'll do it. Oh yeah. Yeah, bro. I got to pull 1.00

01:11:32.400 up on somebody, bro. Get some of that swamp dog. You know, just get it a little bit brackish,

01:11:37.820 you know? Yeah. Yeah. Um, sure. But so that's interesting. I think I was a little bit embarrassed

01:11:45.400 like at first, like, cause everybody looks at it and you kind of don't want to be the center of

01:11:50.800 attention sometimes. So you're like, and, and yeah, and I thought it was, so I'm in there,

01:11:55.400 like just being alive and shit and you're like, Oh, everybody can see in here. I thought nobody 0.94

01:11:59.780 could see in cause people would be at stoplights just recording a lot of times. And I'd be like,

01:12:04.100 I'm safe in here, you know? Yeah. And then I'm not. And so that was dumb, but, um, yeah. What's

01:12:10.300 it like? It definitely feels like the future. Some, it looks like the future. Yeah. They have the,

01:12:18.700 they have big tires on them, right? Yeah. The tires feel like they almost feel like they're from

01:12:22.600 like a, some vehicle out of like a, um, sci-fi movie or something. Yeah. It's got a sci-fi

01:12:30.300 kind of feel to it. I've only seen once, uh, one in person. Yeah. In Miami. Yeah. You did? Yeah.

01:12:35.860 Was it, what was it? Yeah. What was it like? At first I was like, I don't know how I feel about

01:12:39.180 it, but it's growing on me for sure. It's, it looks strange to me. It's cool. It was different.

01:12:44.160 Yeah. I was surprised. I ordered it four years ago and I got home and, um, my buddy,

01:12:49.560 John Shahidi is close with Elon and they, uh, just got me like a early one of it. Yeah. I ordered

01:12:56.740 it four years ago. I think. When did that order go out for Tesla? I didn't even know about them

01:13:02.740 four years ago. Yeah. They started taking orders. Yeah. Tesla can be 2019. I'll put that hundred

01:13:11.000 dollars down on that site because you got to think even if a million people put it on, that's a hundred

01:13:15.040 million bucks they made right there. It's a lot of trucks to make earnings call in October. Must

01:13:19.960 said demand was off the charts and anything over a hundred, one million people have paid a hundred

01:13:23.080 dollars. There you go. Fundable deposit, the cyber truck. Um, so you think there's, so there's

01:13:29.640 news we're going to hear dust and that's what I'm feeling out of you or is that? We'll see. We'll see.

01:13:34.660 Okay. That's fair, man. Uh, cool, bro. You're going to be, uh, people can come and see you with

01:13:43.540 Anthony Pettis. Yeah. Uh, in Indiana next weekend, Anthony Pettis has his own fight promotion. They're

01:13:51.020 doing a big event up there. I'll be watching, uh, fights with the fans, signing autographs,

01:13:54.300 hanging out. Okay. Um, and also UFC 300. I'll be at the Mohegan sun doing a viewing party.

01:14:01.400 There's a big sports book there. So we're going to be watching the fights.

01:14:03.440 Okay. Bet. Oh, nice man. Um, and then you're going, are you going to go see, um, Tiago fight

01:14:11.000 this week? So yeah, Tiago's fighting Perry. Mike Perry. Yeah. In LA. I want to go to it. I'm just

01:14:17.200 not sure yet. Yeah. God, that's going to be wild. Yeah. It's going to be insane, bro. Is

01:14:21.600 this Tiago's first bare knuckle fight? No, no. He was a champion. Oh, he was. Oh, I got to get up on

01:14:26.240 game, man. Yeah. Have you ever been to a bare knuckle event? No. It's different. I don't know if I'm

01:14:31.840 ready. Like the bone on bone. Oh man. It's rough. It's rough. Oh yeah. There's a gotta

01:14:37.560 be. There he is right there. Oh my God. There's a lot of organ donors in there. Tiago is so

01:14:43.800 tough, man. He's a vet. Legend of the game. Great coach as well. The nicest guy. I would

01:14:49.500 know if you didn't tell me that either. I would not even think it. Yeah. He's solid, man.

01:14:54.840 Wow. I think that last fight though, he like came to the gym the next week. His hand

01:14:59.840 looked like a balloon that you, you know, like a glove, doctor glove that you blow up

01:15:03.420 or something. It was just like puffy. He broke his fingers and knuckles and yeah, that's

01:15:10.480 wild. That's going to be a war, man. Isn't it so amazing how Mike Perry has found such a

01:15:15.880 home in this sport? This is perfect for him, man. He's the face of bare knuckle fighting

01:15:20.040 now, you know? So wild. Yeah. His style and his grit, just how crazy he is. This

01:15:26.320 is perfect for him. Yeah. It's amazing how it all kind of like things evolve where there

01:15:31.100 is a space for everybody, you know? Yeah. He found his spot for sure. Wasn't

01:15:35.860 Gerard Mearshart just in this too? No, he's still in the UFC. Oh, he is? Yeah. That was

01:15:40.320 Luke Rockhold. Oh yeah. Rockhold's fighting this week or something. He just fought. No, I think

01:15:46.400 he's fighting karate combat versus Joe Schilling. Oh, those are interesting. I haven't been in one

01:15:53.360 of those. You've been in one of those? No, I've never been in one. Yeah. It's pretty much just

01:15:58.540 like MMA, except they might only grapple for a couple seconds if it goes to the ground. So it's

01:16:02.600 just like kickboxing with small gloves. Yeah, there you go. Oh, that'd be interesting. That's

01:16:08.240 going to be a good one, man. Yeah. Dustin Poirier, man. Good to see you, bro. Thank you so

01:16:14.560 much for just the fights over the years, giving us all like, just, just, yeah, man. It just

01:16:20.140 so been so fun to be along for some of your journey and, um, yeah, just give us inspiration,

01:16:26.180 man. You know, you give so much inspiration to us, no matter your outcome. I think these

01:16:30.180 days that is, there's a lot of times I want to give up and I'll just think of how you are

01:16:35.120 and I don't do it, you know? And so I just want to say thank you on behalf of, I know not

01:16:38.940 just myself, man. Thank you, man. So we appreciate you, bro. Um, excited to see what

01:16:45.120 happens next in all facets, baby. Yeah. We'll see what happens this, this coming weekend

01:16:51.060 or two weeks away at UFC 300. I think that's going to shake the division up a little bit

01:16:54.760 and then we'll see what's next. Let's go. Strappy Gilmore. I will fucking punch somebody's 0.86

01:17:02.140 fucking step husband out. Fuck. Um, Dustin Poirier, thank you so much, bro. 1.00

01:17:07.260 Oh, man.

01:17:07.640 Yeah.

01:17:08.600 Now I'm just floating on the breeze and I feel I'm falling like these leaves. I must be

01:17:15.380 cornerstone. Oh, but when I reach that ground, I'll share this peace of mind. I found I can

01:17:25.480 feel it in my bones, but it's going to tell you.

This Past Weekend with Theo Von - April 09, 2024

E494 Dustin Poirier

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