This Past Weekend with Theo Von - E501 Red Clay Strays

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00:00:30.460 Today's guests are two members of a band that I really enjoy.

00:00:35.200 They're out of Mobile, Alabama.

00:00:37.640 They have a new album coming out in May.

00:00:40.340 And they've been picking up some steam.

00:00:43.320 I'm grateful to spend time today with Brandon Coleman and Andy Bishop from The Red Clay Stray.

00:00:50.620 Shine that light on me.

00:00:57.020 I'll sit and tell you my stories.

00:01:02.360 Shine on me.

00:01:06.500 And I will find a song I've been singing.

00:01:10.700 A mustache.

00:01:11.280 Yeah, I guess Ben has a...

00:01:18.380 He has that mustache.

00:01:19.420 Some people can't grow certain facial hair.

00:01:22.280 Oh, Brandon's a native man.

00:01:24.060 Yeah, I can't really.

00:01:24.980 I can grow a mustache and a little bit of a goatee, but that's it.

00:01:29.140 Everything else doesn't work.

00:01:31.660 Really?

00:01:32.020 Why?

00:01:32.220 What happened?

00:01:33.080 You weren't scalped or something.

00:01:34.180 Somebody wasn't?

00:01:34.940 No, I don't think so.

00:01:35.380 How native are you?

00:01:36.020 I think Brandon's family...

00:01:36.380 I'm like Cherokee, so...

00:01:38.040 Doing the scalping.

00:01:39.200 Yeah, we were doing the scalping.

00:01:40.860 Then you'd think you'd have a little extra collection.

00:01:43.900 Um, you would think so.

00:01:45.960 Like, if my grandmother would have passed them down or something, you know, but...

00:01:48.600 Yeah.

00:01:49.140 She never did any of that.

00:01:50.840 Wow.

00:01:51.380 And so, was your grandmother, did she seem kind of native?

00:01:54.200 Like, did she have a kind of a vibe like that?

00:01:57.420 A little bit.

00:01:58.360 It was really my great-great-grandmother.

00:02:00.380 I have an old black-and-white photo of her somewhere that's...

00:02:03.740 She's just straight-up Cherokee Indian.

00:02:05.840 Wow.

00:02:06.360 That's, like, straight out of Red Dead Redemption 2, you know?

00:02:10.360 Yeah, do you feel native sometimes?

00:02:13.600 I don't think so.

00:02:14.620 Like, if you get near, like...

00:02:17.340 Like, I wonder if you hear stuff different than, like, a regular non-native person hears.

00:02:24.380 I'll speak on it.

00:02:25.460 I think Brandon gets a little frisky when, like, a rainstorm's coming in, you know?

00:02:30.720 Yeah.

00:02:31.140 Him and his brother, we'd take...

00:02:32.180 His brother's on the road with us, too, our videographer, so...

00:02:34.260 Yeah, I met him one time, and I met you guys.

00:02:35.660 He can actually throat sing pretty good, too.

00:02:37.620 Yeah, he does it as a joke, and everybody's like, you can't do that.

00:02:40.560 But he's like, I'm native.

00:02:41.780 I can do that if I want to.

00:02:43.320 What?

00:02:43.560 He'll start really...

00:02:44.880 He'll get into it.

00:02:46.060 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:02:47.320 So you can do it, too.

00:02:48.380 Watch out.

00:02:48.960 That's powerful, man.

00:02:50.000 Yeah, one time I was up in Minnesota, like, in Minnetonka, Minnesota, and I went to...

00:02:54.780 They had a...

00:02:56.120 What's it called?

00:02:56.920 Like, a big get-together that natives have?

00:02:59.040 Powwow.

00:02:59.820 Every time I've heard the word powwow, it just meant backing trucks up to a campfire and

00:03:03.920 drinking whiskey all night.

00:03:05.600 Yeah, but that sounds pretty native to me, too.

00:03:08.120 Yeah.

00:03:08.840 You know?

00:03:09.660 Cooking meat.

00:03:10.420 Throw a little gambling in there, too.

00:03:11.700 Yeah.

00:03:12.220 Powwow is a gathering with dances held by many Native Americans and First Nations communities.

00:03:16.420 I'd say so.

00:03:17.500 That's it.

00:03:18.480 Ben was right.

00:03:19.920 Yeah, Ben was right.

00:03:22.020 I didn't sleep that great.

00:03:23.280 You guys have that ever?

00:03:24.560 Oh, yeah.

00:03:24.820 Oh, dude.

00:03:25.740 All the time.

00:03:26.680 I don't think we sleep good until we go home.

00:03:29.220 Yeah?

00:03:30.100 I don't sleep well.

00:03:31.800 Going out on the road, it takes a couple of days to get used to sleeping on a bus, and

00:03:35.700 then getting home, it takes a couple of days to get used to sleeping in your own bed again.

00:03:40.860 Yeah.

00:03:41.180 So that equals about no sleep.

00:03:43.080 Yeah.

00:03:44.140 Yeah, it is kind of a...

00:03:45.540 It's a real...

00:03:47.260 You're always trying to get comfortable.

00:03:50.200 Yeah.

00:03:51.360 That's why we carry a lot of Z-Quil on the bus.

00:03:53.460 Yeah.

00:03:53.800 That's the first couple of nights.

00:03:54.760 Have you...

00:03:55.020 You pre-Vosa?

00:03:56.180 You've been in the tour buses?

00:03:57.860 Yeah.

00:03:58.580 Those things are hard to sleep in for the first couple of nights for me.

00:04:01.500 What part do you sleep in, and what part do you choose to sleep in?

00:04:04.720 Like, is there...

00:04:05.780 Because there's the different levels of the bunks.

00:04:07.640 Yeah.

00:04:07.920 So we're in a crew bus still, so we travel 12 deep.

00:04:11.020 We've got the crew, everybody, in one bus, so I'm the back middle.

00:04:14.260 Yeah.

00:04:14.500 Yeah, I'm the top bunk.

00:04:15.700 We're looking for that second bus, but...

00:04:18.320 Yeah, no, we have one bus when we go, and everybody's in there.

00:04:21.820 They have a crew bus for, like, production, so they're in a separate bus.

00:04:26.340 Ben's got some pictures.

00:04:27.400 There you go.

00:04:28.360 There's definitely different values to the different slots, I think.

00:04:33.560 Yeah, our tour manager and keyboard player, they all prefer the bottom bunk.

00:04:38.320 They say it's the nicest.

00:04:39.780 They said the worst part about the bottom bunk is if you blow a tire out, it scares the crap out of you.

00:04:44.700 I mean, you're by everybody's feet.

00:04:46.860 Yeah, that's a good point.

00:04:47.920 I guess there's a lot more dirt down there.

00:04:49.900 There's a little bit of foot traffic if you open the curtain.

00:04:51.980 People throwing their shoes off, and then, you know, you've got to wake up and move shoes out of the way.

00:04:55.940 Yeah, that's true.

00:04:56.720 Yeah, you have to really want to get up.

00:04:59.500 So I will tell you, our old bus, what we call it, it's a bus, the one we traveled in before, it's like a redneck Prevost.

00:05:05.740 It was a 99E450 with six bunks built in the back of it.

00:05:11.060 You could probably Google it, Ben.

00:05:12.300 Yeah, you could.

00:05:12.960 The Breeze is what we named it.

00:05:14.760 And this was homemade, so this is how you guys first, when you guys started hitting the road.

00:05:18.700 Yeah, and we broke down a lot, picked ourselves up off the side of the road multiple times.

00:05:24.520 Yeah.

00:05:25.240 We had started looking for a van, and the vans were just so expensive at the time.

00:05:31.500 So, yeah, we're sitting on it up there.

00:05:34.680 Wow.

00:05:35.000 I don't know if we have a picture of the inside.

00:05:36.920 Probably not.

00:05:37.400 Not on the internet.

00:05:38.380 That's an old picture.

00:05:39.300 And this looks like one of those things where they go to pick up seniors kind of to take them to market and stuff.

00:05:43.720 Is it that sort of?

00:05:44.480 Yeah.

00:05:44.620 Like a shuttle bus.

00:05:45.620 Did it have that sort of door on it?

00:05:47.420 That's us waving goodbye.

00:05:48.720 Yeah, that was when we got the new bus.

00:05:49.960 It had the door.

00:05:52.960 It had an electric open.

00:05:53.900 And we ended up just getting rid of it.

00:05:55.980 And then our security system was just a ratchet strap.

00:05:58.940 It had an eye bolt on it, and we just hooked to it.

00:06:01.700 It was rough.

00:06:02.280 At nighttime, yeah.

00:06:03.840 But we're practically diesel mechanics.

00:06:07.100 If you ever got a 7.3 and you worked on.

00:06:09.080 Because there's so many breakdowns, you mean?

00:06:10.380 Mm-hmm.

00:06:10.680 Yeah.

00:06:11.920 We had one at a...

00:06:14.380 We had one...

00:06:15.700 Well, we had a guy that refused to...

00:06:17.960 He would buzz cut his hair every day,

00:06:19.840 refused to cut any of his ear hair.

00:06:24.600 Mm-hmm.

00:06:25.100 What about his nose hair?

00:06:27.120 It was all coming out of his ears.

00:06:29.180 Mm-hmm.

00:06:29.780 Whatever was supposed to be in his nose

00:06:31.440 had really gone upstream, I guess.

00:06:35.120 You could see it?

00:06:36.180 Oh, yeah.

00:06:37.080 You could see it.

00:06:38.020 I mean, it was like his...

00:06:39.800 You know?

00:06:40.420 One of those little troll dolls.

00:06:41.820 Yes.

00:06:42.560 Yeah, like one of those dolls you would get at school

00:06:44.220 you put on your...

00:06:45.160 On your pencil.

00:06:45.760 Pencil, yeah.

00:06:47.240 You've got to cut that at night.

00:06:48.640 You've got to do it for them.

00:06:49.660 Oh, I think the moon cuts his hair.

00:06:51.280 The moon cuts his hair.

00:06:52.440 I mean, it was like...

00:06:53.560 It was involved in something extra terrestrial

00:06:57.100 and he had...

00:06:58.140 But that thing broke down a couple times

00:07:00.040 and one time he just threw a cup of water on it.

00:07:02.480 I was like, that's not...

00:07:03.520 We've got to get another one.

00:07:04.560 Is he shampooing it?

00:07:06.160 I'm talking about the engine.

00:07:07.100 The engine broke down one time

00:07:08.120 and he threw a cup of water on it.

00:07:09.240 I thought you were talking about his ear hair.

00:07:10.440 Oh, the ear hair?

00:07:11.060 A cup of water on his ear hair.

00:07:12.000 The ear hair, you could...

00:07:12.740 We've thrown our share.

00:07:13.640 Well, we blew a hub.

00:07:14.360 Oh, we had to throw water on it.

00:07:16.340 Yeah.

00:07:17.780 Mostly just to listen to it sizzle.

00:07:19.140 See how hot it was.

00:07:19.860 Oh, yeah.

00:07:20.600 Yeah, it's hot.

00:07:21.780 It's hot.

00:07:23.720 That's always the best mechanic, dude,

00:07:25.420 when you just crack that thing over.

00:07:26.840 You're just like, oh, it's too hot.

00:07:27.500 Oh, dude, we've had some.

00:07:28.440 There was one.

00:07:29.040 You remember the...

00:07:30.480 Oh, we blew a heater hose

00:07:31.780 and it had what's called a quick connect on it.

00:07:35.220 Was it a heater hose?

00:07:36.660 You talking about Joe?

00:07:37.780 No, this was me and you.

00:07:38.780 You remember I spit on it.

00:07:39.800 Oh, yeah.

00:07:40.680 We couldn't get it to go over that little...

00:07:42.780 It's like you just push it on,

00:07:43.920 and it clips and that's it.

00:07:45.440 And we just fought with it for hours

00:07:47.200 and I was like, you know what?

00:07:47.700 We missed our show.

00:07:48.300 We had to cancel our show and everything

00:07:49.540 because we could not get this thing to slide up.

00:07:51.720 It just needed a little...

00:07:52.700 And I was like, you know what?

00:07:53.580 Screw it.

00:07:53.860 I went in there.

00:07:54.520 We're all sitting in the bus

00:07:55.420 kind of thinking about what to do.

00:07:56.760 I went out there and spit on it

00:07:57.780 and pushed it on there

00:07:58.540 and got it good.

00:07:59.300 And it worked.

00:07:59.840 Just needed a little move, man.

00:08:01.100 That's it.

00:08:01.700 Oh, that's all you need a lot of times.

00:08:04.600 Red Clay Strays, man.

00:08:06.840 Thank you guys for coming in.

00:08:08.600 Thanks for having us.

00:08:09.180 Thanks for having us.

00:08:09.480 Yeah, I'm such a big fan, guys.

00:08:11.460 Why?

00:08:13.280 I don't know.

00:08:14.280 There's something damn...

00:08:15.080 Put you on the spot.

00:08:16.960 There's something just damn...

00:08:20.080 It feels like a little bit

00:08:21.760 whimsical, historical, romantic

00:08:24.800 about the music, you know?

00:08:26.980 Thank you.

00:08:27.300 There's something that feels like

00:08:28.980 you just hop on the clock hands

00:08:32.400 and just start spinning backwards.

00:08:34.080 And it's like almost...

00:08:34.960 It feels like a little bit

00:08:35.540 of like a time warp.

00:08:36.540 I don't know.

00:08:37.260 It just feels...

00:08:38.900 It feels good, man.

00:08:40.200 It feels good to listen to.

00:08:41.780 That's cool.

00:08:42.600 You know?

00:08:44.160 I know you guys started...

00:08:45.240 You guys are from the South.

00:08:45.940 You guys are from Alabama, right?

00:08:47.260 We all still live there.

00:08:48.540 Born and raised.

00:08:49.540 Mobile.

00:08:50.700 And how do you guys...

00:08:52.060 Was it a couple of you at first?

00:08:53.620 You guys have five guys now?

00:08:55.480 We have six now.

00:08:56.580 Okay.

00:08:57.600 But yeah, it was originally five.

00:09:00.160 Yeah.

00:09:00.820 We just hired a keyboard player.

00:09:03.260 Oh, wow.

00:09:04.720 Like last month?

00:09:05.940 Yep.

00:09:06.540 And did you audition for that

00:09:07.680 or how'd that go?

00:09:08.580 We actually met him on...

00:09:10.060 When we were touring with L King

00:09:11.280 and he was playing with L at the time.

00:09:13.480 And then we realized last summer

00:09:15.440 that he wasn't playing with L anymore

00:09:17.140 and, you know, reached out to him.

00:09:19.760 Immediately.

00:09:20.680 It was one of those...

00:09:21.260 We showed up.

00:09:21.780 We're like, we're sevens.

00:09:22.540 He's like, he's not with us anymore.

00:09:24.640 We turned around, made a phone call.

00:09:26.020 I'm like, we got him now.

00:09:27.900 You're like, what?

00:09:28.460 He's ours.

00:09:29.440 You're like, they let him go?

00:09:30.800 Yeah.

00:09:30.980 That's crazy.

00:09:31.660 Yeah.

00:09:32.020 Oh, that's perfect then.

00:09:33.840 So is that needed

00:09:34.840 because you want to add

00:09:35.860 a different element to the music

00:09:37.320 or what do you...

00:09:38.020 How do you come to make that choice?

00:09:40.060 I think it's...

00:09:41.940 Yeah, we just wanted to...

00:09:42.980 We've always wanted a keys player

00:09:44.760 to lay down piano and organ tracks.

00:09:48.460 And I could play a little bit

00:09:50.220 but not near as good as we needed, I guess.

00:09:54.460 So that's always been a thing

00:09:56.980 we've wanted to add in our music.

00:09:59.160 And it was supposed to be...

00:10:00.460 We were going to get our drummer's little brother

00:10:02.220 to play keys with us

00:10:04.220 and he passed away in 2020.

00:10:06.540 So that was...

00:10:08.860 Sevens is the right guy

00:10:10.080 to fill that role

00:10:11.040 that was originally intended for him, I think.

00:10:13.340 Yeah.

00:10:13.980 Was there like a trial night

00:10:15.540 where he comes in

00:10:16.580 and you're like, okay, this is...

00:10:19.040 Normally we would hold an audition

00:10:21.360 but we already knew

00:10:22.220 how great of a player he was

00:10:23.580 from seeing him play with L

00:10:24.700 and just sitting around in green rooms

00:10:26.960 when there'd be a piano in the green room

00:10:28.340 and we saw him play

00:10:30.760 and how good he was.

00:10:32.040 I think we've always been kind of looking

00:10:33.760 for that piano player

00:10:34.680 and when we saw him with L

00:10:36.020 it was like Brandon said

00:10:36.880 it's one of those like, dang,

00:10:38.100 that guy's good.

00:10:40.020 He was a dang.

00:10:40.480 So when we saw that opportunity

00:10:41.560 we jumped on it as soon as we could.

00:10:43.260 Yeah.

00:10:43.660 And he fits in just long with us.

00:10:45.800 Yeah, when we called

00:10:46.440 we weren't like,

00:10:46.960 do you want to audition for us?

00:10:48.020 We were like, hey,

00:10:48.400 do you want to play with us?

00:10:49.420 Yeah, I know.

00:10:50.220 But here we are,

00:10:50.760 we're auditioning

00:10:51.360 and we'll audition in front of house guys

00:10:53.240 and guitar techs, but...

00:10:56.320 And how does the band start to form up?

00:10:58.700 Like when it started out

00:10:59.800 how does a band even start?

00:11:01.620 Because I'm used to just hearing

00:11:02.820 some guys like

00:11:03.880 get together,

00:11:05.540 write down a song or whatever

00:11:07.980 and then just kind of get in a fight

00:11:09.800 at somebody's house

00:11:10.580 and then the band is done.

00:11:12.560 We do that.

00:11:13.600 We just haven't quit yet.

00:11:15.580 Plenty of fights have happened.

00:11:17.800 Now it's,

00:11:18.520 I had actually met Drew

00:11:20.100 when I was still in high school

00:11:23.160 and then Drew introduced me to Andrew

00:11:25.620 and we had started a little cover band.

00:11:29.340 Drew, the guitar player,

00:11:30.860 he was actually the manager at the time

00:11:32.560 and that band played for a while

00:11:37.100 and we had actually hired John in that band

00:11:40.140 and he played for a couple months

00:11:42.860 before it dissolved

00:11:43.760 and then we hired Zach,

00:11:46.320 our guitar player

00:11:47.160 and started calling ourselves

00:11:49.480 Red Clay Strays

00:11:50.200 and then Drew,

00:11:51.220 eventually we learned

00:11:52.220 that he could sing

00:11:53.040 and he was learning

00:11:54.720 how to play guitar at the time

00:11:55.860 so we started getting Drew

00:11:56.740 to come on stage with us

00:11:57.860 and when he first started

00:12:00.740 getting on stage with us,

00:12:01.740 he kept his amp turned

00:12:02.860 all the way down.

00:12:03.640 He wouldn't even actually play.

00:12:05.780 Yeah, he was just really shy.

00:12:07.400 I didn't know there was a way

00:12:08.360 to be shy on there with you.

00:12:10.500 Oh yeah,

00:12:11.220 he was faking it

00:12:12.120 until he made it.

00:12:12.960 That's one thing

00:12:13.840 that was cool to see

00:12:14.560 is because I lived with him

00:12:16.200 and just he would

00:12:17.600 locked himself in his room

00:12:19.000 every day pretty much

00:12:20.020 for like a year

00:12:20.780 and just taught himself

00:12:22.480 how to play guitar.

00:12:23.660 Wow.

00:12:24.120 I used to tell him

00:12:25.300 to stop playing too.

00:12:26.140 I feel bad now.

00:12:27.820 He'd be in there

00:12:28.720 in the old band.

00:12:29.840 We'd be in practice

00:12:31.560 and he'd have like a beer bottle

00:12:32.800 just raking it

00:12:33.960 across the strings

00:12:34.740 and I'd just have to tell him

00:12:35.680 like dude,

00:12:36.040 you gotta give me a minute.

00:12:37.720 You gotta stop.

00:12:39.760 And now he's like,

00:12:40.960 Drew's one of those,

00:12:42.620 he gets the most improvement award

00:12:44.740 every year for us.

00:12:45.760 Wow.

00:12:45.860 It just gets better and better

00:12:46.960 and it's just,

00:12:48.840 he's good.

00:12:49.400 I wish I had his worth ethic

00:12:50.440 when it came to

00:12:51.100 learning an instrument.

00:12:52.680 So it was just,

00:12:55.020 so he was on with you guys

00:12:56.300 and then he got better?

00:12:57.640 Well,

00:12:57.860 he was the manager

00:12:58.620 in our first band

00:13:00.340 and then when

00:13:01.720 Red Clay Stray started,

00:13:02.840 the five of us started that,

00:13:04.260 you know,

00:13:04.620 together,

00:13:05.140 there he is,

00:13:05.540 handsome devil there.

00:13:07.000 He's like,

00:13:07.220 I gotta get in here.

00:13:08.220 Yeah,

00:13:08.580 I think he just,

00:13:10.900 he's got it in this song.

00:13:12.660 Him and Brandon's little brother,

00:13:14.640 Matthew,

00:13:14.920 he write our songs,

00:13:16.280 pretty much 50-50

00:13:17.260 and Brandon writes some too.

00:13:19.160 So I think it's just natural in him.

00:13:21.340 He just had to find that way

00:13:22.360 getting it out and,

00:13:23.860 I think we,

00:13:24.480 what got him on stage

00:13:25.960 was we noticed

00:13:26.620 he was singing harmonies

00:13:27.640 at practice.

00:13:28.700 So we're like,

00:13:29.340 hey,

00:13:29.440 get on stage

00:13:29.860 and start singing with us.

00:13:31.440 And he didn't want to just be

00:13:32.660 standing on stage empty handed

00:13:33.940 so he would turn the guitar down

00:13:35.100 and just hold the guitar

00:13:36.500 pretty much

00:13:37.100 and then

00:13:38.280 somewhere along the line

00:13:39.680 decided that he wanted

00:13:40.940 to start actually playing

00:13:42.200 so he taught himself.

00:13:43.400 Wow,

00:13:44.080 that's amazing.

00:13:45.500 Zach,

00:13:45.920 he's just always been

00:13:46.620 incredible.

00:13:46.720 Yeah,

00:13:46.840 Zach's always been.

00:13:47.540 Zach just come right in

00:13:49.180 just ripping and shredding

00:13:50.220 and blowing everybody away.

00:13:52.400 He's,

00:13:53.720 now it's just surprising

00:13:55.140 to see that Drew and Zach

00:13:56.460 just two completely

00:13:57.880 different styles

00:13:58.520 and how they've learned

00:13:59.600 off of one another

00:14:00.320 over the years.

00:14:01.400 and so like

00:14:02.640 in the past probably year

00:14:04.300 things have started

00:14:05.000 to get busier,

00:14:06.400 right?

00:14:07.340 Yeah,

00:14:07.700 yeah,

00:14:07.860 we've been,

00:14:08.940 especially,

00:14:09.800 I think things really

00:14:10.800 started taking off for us.

00:14:12.280 We were actually

00:14:13.160 off the road last year,

00:14:14.840 last fall in November

00:14:15.820 and we just see these numbers

00:14:17.520 just like on a rocket ship.

00:14:19.340 Like what's,

00:14:19.800 what the hell's going on?

00:14:21.980 Yeah,

00:14:22.300 we,

00:14:22.480 so it's just,

00:14:23.280 we're just riding it out.

00:14:24.900 We hired my little brother

00:14:27.440 who is the other songwriter

00:14:29.580 so we had already,

00:14:30.680 we had already been

00:14:31.880 playing all of his songs,

00:14:33.620 you know,

00:14:34.760 and,

00:14:35.160 but he would do his own thing

00:14:37.480 and I think he was driving

00:14:39.160 for Uber at the time

00:14:40.260 and like last,

00:14:43.280 we took him on the

00:14:44.140 Elking run last year

00:14:45.560 and then officially hired him

00:14:47.300 like last April

00:14:48.120 and he just went right to work

00:14:49.880 recording us

00:14:51.080 and monitoring our social medias

00:14:54.420 and like building

00:14:55.040 a social media presence

00:14:56.060 and then popping up on TikTok

00:14:58.540 I think a couple times really.

00:15:00.540 Yeah,

00:15:00.880 that with the L tour

00:15:01.700 just kind of jump started

00:15:02.560 it a little bit for us.

00:15:03.400 Yeah,

00:15:03.500 he does a great job

00:15:04.320 because there's a lot of really,

00:15:05.300 he has a lot of fun clips on there.

00:15:06.920 You guys have some cool stuff

00:15:07.820 on YouTube and stuff

00:15:08.620 that I hadn't heard

00:15:09.340 that wasn't released yet

00:15:10.280 just like on Spotify and stuff.

00:15:13.380 That used to be how we tour.

00:15:14.900 Yeah,

00:15:15.140 we toured off of YouTube.

00:15:16.520 We'd just tell people

00:15:17.220 to call venues

00:15:18.160 and tell them

00:15:18.500 check out YouTube

00:15:19.100 and Facebook.

00:15:20.200 Yeah.

00:15:20.580 Just,

00:15:21.660 you know,

00:15:22.320 hopefully they book us

00:15:23.340 and a lot of them did

00:15:24.660 so that's what we did.

00:15:26.960 And when do you guys

00:15:27.560 start touring pretty heavily?

00:15:28.600 Kind of like,

00:15:29.000 when did it?

00:15:29.980 Oh shoot,

00:15:30.620 dude,

00:15:30.740 we used to play,

00:15:31.640 I mean,

00:15:31.960 we'd tour,

00:15:32.700 we'd play 200 cap rooms.

00:15:34.620 I remember getting excited

00:15:35.480 for 70 people showing up.

00:15:37.040 Yeah.

00:15:37.140 I mean,

00:15:37.400 we've always been,

00:15:40.000 we just wanted,

00:15:41.240 our big thing was

00:15:41.840 we wanted to be

00:15:42.100 the hardest working band

00:15:42.960 in America.

00:15:44.520 So we would,

00:15:45.300 I mean,

00:15:45.860 shoot,

00:15:46.300 for the last couple of years

00:15:47.240 we've played

00:15:47.880 majority of the year

00:15:49.520 we're out on the road.

00:15:50.880 Especially last year,

00:15:51.780 we did over 150 shows

00:15:53.380 driving ourselves

00:15:54.420 so it's like more of like

00:15:55.380 250 travel days or more.

00:15:58.120 And then that was the same

00:15:58.980 the year before.

00:16:00.040 We're just running around

00:16:01.140 breaking down

00:16:01.820 and just excited

00:16:03.860 for 50 people

00:16:04.540 to be in front of us.

00:16:05.420 It's crazy to look back

00:16:07.540 at that now

00:16:08.140 and we always wanted,

00:16:10.780 where we are now

00:16:11.720 we kind of always looked up to

00:16:12.700 like,

00:16:12.920 man,

00:16:13.040 I want to play these clubs,

00:16:14.240 you know,

00:16:14.400 these 1,000,

00:16:14.960 2,000 cap rooms every night.

00:16:16.120 I could get used to that

00:16:17.000 like opening for people

00:16:17.860 and now we're there

00:16:18.460 and now we're like,

00:16:19.600 man,

00:16:19.780 those arenas look fun.

00:16:21.500 How about getting used

00:16:22.740 to doing that,

00:16:23.480 you know?

00:16:25.140 Yeah,

00:16:25.560 or festivals.

00:16:26.200 Do you guys do a lot

00:16:26.700 of festivals too?

00:16:27.340 Well,

00:16:27.420 that'll probably happen

00:16:28.060 this summer.

00:16:28.760 Yeah,

00:16:28.780 we do a lot of festivals.

00:16:29.860 Yeah.

00:16:30.280 I don't know

00:16:31.400 if we really like festivals

00:16:32.380 as much.

00:16:33.080 We like doing our own show.

00:16:33.920 We're not pressed for time.

00:16:35.540 Festivals,

00:16:35.980 you got to be,

00:16:36.600 you got to be on time

00:16:38.440 with starting and ending

00:16:39.320 and that's just,

00:16:40.460 it's kind of,

00:16:41.580 we like to take our time

00:16:42.700 and relax.

00:16:43.240 Usually the set

00:16:43.560 is really short too.

00:16:44.640 It's like,

00:16:44.840 we get 45 minutes

00:16:46.200 and it's like,

00:16:47.320 I'm just now starting

00:16:47.940 to get warmed up

00:16:48.520 at 45 minutes,

00:16:49.500 you know,

00:16:49.800 and then it's over with.

00:16:50.980 Yeah.

00:16:51.680 Yeah,

00:16:51.860 and we're not headlining festivals

00:16:52.900 or playing at like

00:16:53.620 three o'clock

00:16:54.380 in the afternoon,

00:16:55.160 you know?

00:16:55.680 Oh yeah,

00:16:56.300 sunburn time.

00:16:57.380 Oh yeah,

00:16:57.720 we just did it

00:16:58.500 in Tortuga

00:16:59.160 in Fort Lauderdale.

00:17:00.840 Oh yeah,

00:17:01.180 at the Heatstroke Festival

00:17:02.240 or whatever?

00:17:02.600 Heatstroke Festival,

00:17:03.500 yeah,

00:17:03.760 we just felt like

00:17:04.720 we just ruined

00:17:05.200 everybody's beach party.

00:17:06.480 Oh,

00:17:06.980 that's the worst.

00:17:07.680 We're up there

00:17:08.000 playing sad songs.

00:17:09.740 Dude,

00:17:10.060 I remember one night

00:17:11.160 we had to play,

00:17:12.260 I'm thinking of,

00:17:14.860 one time they put us

00:17:16.200 at this Italian

00:17:17.060 kind of cocaine

00:17:18.120 sort of Christmas

00:17:18.920 kind of party

00:17:19.720 and it was,

00:17:21.540 this was in LA,

00:17:23.040 it was probably about

00:17:23.500 like maybe seven years ago.

00:17:26.140 Like are you guys

00:17:26.900 going to perform

00:17:27.400 at this Christmas party?

00:17:29.060 This cocaine Christmas party?

00:17:30.460 Yeah,

00:17:30.700 well everybody,

00:17:31.280 we get there early

00:17:32.000 and everybody's

00:17:32.720 trying to get us

00:17:33.280 to do cocaine

00:17:34.040 and we're doing it.

00:17:36.920 And then

00:17:37.780 like we had to perform

00:17:40.700 but we thought

00:17:41.280 it would be like a stage

00:17:42.200 and like a good setup.

00:17:44.040 So I think it had rained

00:17:45.760 or something

00:17:46.320 and they put

00:17:48.740 like this party

00:17:50.620 in like a tent,

00:17:51.340 one of those white tents

00:17:52.220 with the fake plastic windows

00:17:53.680 in it,

00:17:54.060 you know?

00:17:54.460 Oh yeah,

00:17:54.680 and so we had to perform

00:17:57.680 in there right next

00:17:58.760 to the tables

00:17:59.360 like you were,

00:17:59.960 some people's backs

00:18:00.840 were like,

00:18:01.360 you were on the curve

00:18:02.060 of the table

00:18:02.580 and their backs

00:18:03.200 and they were eating.

00:18:04.440 You were doing stand-up

00:18:05.120 in there?

00:18:05.280 Oh,

00:18:05.620 it was so,

00:18:06.160 like you were just

00:18:06.620 in the way.

00:18:08.080 It was so hard.

00:18:09.280 Especially high on cocaine

00:18:10.400 I'm sure too.

00:18:11.380 Oh,

00:18:11.580 it made me so like

00:18:12.520 scared and nervous

00:18:13.660 and some lady

00:18:15.140 kept kind of

00:18:15.760 biting her lip at me

00:18:17.060 and oh,

00:18:20.320 that was one of the worst

00:18:21.580 moments that ever happened.

00:18:23.080 She was probably

00:18:23.540 doing the cocaine too,

00:18:24.380 that was probably

00:18:24.640 that jaw thing

00:18:25.540 that goes on,

00:18:26.140 you know?

00:18:26.480 Everybody in there

00:18:27.460 You're probably

00:18:27.480 misreading that one.

00:18:28.520 Everybody was rattling.

00:18:30.880 Rattling.

00:18:31.400 Everybody in there

00:18:32.660 definitely had

00:18:33.420 a catalytic converter issue.

00:18:36.160 It was just,

00:18:37.120 but that was a tough gig,

00:18:38.920 man.

00:18:39.620 Yeah,

00:18:39.780 we've had those.

00:18:41.600 Those tough gigs

00:18:42.200 make you humble though.

00:18:44.080 Oh yeah.

00:18:45.080 I mean,

00:18:45.300 we just had a,

00:18:46.080 go ahead,

00:18:46.540 Brandon,

00:18:46.680 I don't think I know

00:18:47.060 what you're going

00:18:47.360 to talk about.

00:18:47.800 I was going to talk

00:18:48.300 about the purple buffalo.

00:18:49.420 I was going to talk

00:18:50.180 about Dallas Cowboys.

00:18:52.200 Was that a corporate gig

00:18:53.000 you did?

00:18:53.820 No,

00:18:54.160 I've done some

00:18:54.660 really bad ones.

00:18:55.600 I hate corporate

00:18:56.260 corporate shows

00:18:57.020 are terrible.

00:18:58.220 Some guy made his son

00:18:59.400 come up and give us

00:19:00.040 $10 one night

00:19:01.180 when we were on stage

00:19:02.020 and it was,

00:19:02.680 we're performing

00:19:03.080 like an empty backyard.

00:19:04.620 Really?

00:19:05.160 Yeah.

00:19:05.520 And you're doing comedy?

00:19:06.440 Yeah.

00:19:08.000 I've never seen

00:19:08.720 someone tip a comedian

00:19:09.720 on stage.

00:19:10.800 Oh,

00:19:11.080 live,

00:19:11.480 this kid ran

00:19:12.160 across a child.

00:19:13.840 Go give that nice man

00:19:14.760 $10.

00:19:15.240 I've had,

00:19:15.840 you know,

00:19:16.360 and I've had those

00:19:17.200 shows too

00:19:18.040 where it's just like

00:19:19.540 you're in someone's

00:19:20.200 backyard and they're

00:19:20.880 not paying attention

00:19:21.580 but at least there's music

00:19:22.660 and it's super loud

00:19:23.740 and you can drown

00:19:24.440 all that out.

00:19:25.040 I can only imagine

00:19:25.720 being in that setting

00:19:27.360 trying to tell jokes

00:19:29.060 and like nobody's

00:19:29.980 paying attention to you.

00:19:31.480 Yeah.

00:19:31.580 I don't know how you

00:19:32.340 keep it together,

00:19:32.980 man.

00:19:33.380 I'd have an anxiety attack

00:19:34.820 just trying to.

00:19:36.360 It just,

00:19:37.120 you're like,

00:19:37.560 yeah,

00:19:37.720 this is what I deserve.

00:19:39.000 That's where it kind of

00:19:39.640 ends with he,

00:19:40.380 you know.

00:19:40.740 The tough part about the kid

00:19:41.720 was he kept running

00:19:42.340 across like halfway

00:19:43.220 and then got confused

00:19:44.300 with what to do

00:19:44.920 and he would go back

00:19:45.580 and ask his dad.

00:19:46.340 So he,

00:19:47.860 it was just like,

00:19:48.660 just give me the $10

00:19:50.100 or I'll come get it

00:19:52.320 but I can't.

00:19:53.060 It was like I was,

00:19:53.820 this is horrible.

00:19:54.520 Did you just take it

00:19:55.200 from him and he started

00:19:55.820 crying?

00:19:56.300 I was just like,

00:19:57.400 don't drop out of school,

00:19:58.360 kid,

00:19:58.600 thanks.

00:19:59.600 Oh,

00:20:00.220 that was a really tough one.

00:20:01.900 That's putting the grind

00:20:02.620 in though, man.

00:20:03.100 Oh, yeah.

00:20:03.860 Oh, dude,

00:20:04.380 I used to drive

00:20:05.040 at 110 miles an hour

00:20:06.320 to get to the next gig

00:20:07.140 putting everyone's life

00:20:08.180 in danger

00:20:08.660 so that I could perform

00:20:10.680 at like an O'Charlie

00:20:11.660 somewhere or something.

00:20:12.920 It was like everybody,

00:20:15.560 it was very.

00:20:16.940 We used to have

00:20:17.460 our Mexican restaurant gigs

00:20:18.900 way back in the day

00:20:20.260 doing four-hour cover shows.

00:20:21.960 Oh,

00:20:22.200 that sounds fun.

00:20:23.100 It's not.

00:20:24.240 It's fun for a minute

00:20:25.280 for at least the first hour.

00:20:26.980 There was one

00:20:27.660 right before COVID

00:20:28.620 had happened

00:20:29.060 and it was a place

00:20:30.520 called the Purple Buffalo

00:20:31.400 and North Charleston.

00:20:34.180 Yeah,

00:20:34.460 and we played

00:20:35.320 like right after

00:20:35.980 this heavy metal.

00:20:37.360 No,

00:20:37.580 it was like a

00:20:38.820 punk rock show.

00:20:39.740 Yeah,

00:20:39.760 like a punk rock show.

00:20:40.700 Three punk rock bands

00:20:42.380 before us.

00:20:43.320 And then you?

00:20:44.060 And then us

00:20:44.640 and we're playing covers

00:20:46.180 at the time too.

00:20:47.340 Our country bumpkin butts

00:20:48.700 just get up there

00:20:49.340 and just start playing music.

00:20:51.280 The room just empties out

00:20:52.500 and we're literally

00:20:53.180 playing to nobody

00:20:54.040 and I just go out

00:20:55.780 in the crowd

00:20:56.480 and I just sit

00:20:57.460 where the crowd would be

00:20:58.360 and I'm just sitting

00:21:00.120 at the table

00:21:00.560 singing to the band

00:21:01.800 as they're playing

00:21:02.420 and then the whole time

00:21:04.360 the bartender

00:21:05.000 was like offering us drinks

00:21:06.700 and we're broke

00:21:07.980 at the time too

00:21:08.680 and we're just thinking

00:21:09.380 oh cool,

00:21:09.760 at least we got a bar tab.

00:21:10.840 At least we're going

00:21:11.420 to get the drink tonight.

00:21:11.840 And then after the show

00:21:12.880 she just brings us the bill.

00:21:14.020 Oh yeah.

00:21:14.620 Oh man.

00:21:15.240 We didn't even get paid

00:21:15.920 to play.

00:21:16.500 It was like

00:21:16.960 didn't make any money.

00:21:18.200 Yeah.

00:21:18.800 We're like looking around

00:21:19.620 the bus for change.

00:21:21.180 Pay our bar tab

00:21:22.080 at this place.

00:21:23.100 Just drank ourselves.

00:21:24.260 There's a picture

00:21:24.960 of an actual

00:21:25.540 purple buffalo.

00:21:26.940 I prefer that one.

00:21:28.800 Oh yeah,

00:21:29.140 that's nice.

00:21:29.960 Oh,

00:21:30.120 that's what the place

00:21:30.740 looks like with people in it.

00:21:31.720 That's kind of cool.

00:21:32.500 Oh,

00:21:32.780 I've met her before.

00:21:35.440 She parties,

00:21:36.480 dude.

00:21:36.740 We've definitely had

00:21:38.060 those empty shows

00:21:42.380 where you just

00:21:42.760 play for yourselves.

00:21:44.280 Yeah.

00:21:44.680 That's when you really

00:21:45.440 got to enjoy

00:21:45.960 what you're doing.

00:21:47.020 We used to play

00:21:47.540 for tips.

00:21:49.400 Our tip bucket

00:21:50.340 determined how far

00:21:51.220 we were going to get

00:21:51.840 the next day.

00:21:52.460 We'd have no money

00:21:53.320 and we'd get tip money

00:21:55.900 for gas

00:21:56.720 and maybe even

00:21:57.480 one hotel room

00:21:58.480 for all five of us

00:21:59.240 to pile up in.

00:22:00.100 Nuh-uh.

00:22:00.620 And it was just

00:22:01.140 chance every day,

00:22:02.540 you know?

00:22:03.080 Yeah.

00:22:04.320 Damn.

00:22:04.880 Stayed in a lot

00:22:05.400 of people's houses

00:22:06.140 or even slept

00:22:07.560 in the car

00:22:07.940 a couple times

00:22:08.540 before we got

00:22:09.080 the shuttle bus,

00:22:10.980 that is,

00:22:11.320 the breeze.

00:22:11.940 Yeah,

00:22:12.200 I wouldn't say

00:22:13.860 we're successful.

00:22:14.700 We're not where

00:22:15.120 we are from

00:22:15.840 overnight,

00:22:16.700 I guess.

00:22:17.500 Yeah,

00:22:17.900 I think that's

00:22:18.380 what I was trying

00:22:18.800 to get at a little bit

00:22:19.680 just like thinking

00:22:20.420 about all this stuff.

00:22:21.400 It's funny,

00:22:22.000 a lot of times

00:22:22.460 I'll forget about

00:22:23.640 a lot of that.

00:22:24.760 Oh yeah.

00:22:25.520 In a weird way.

00:22:26.500 You can take it

00:22:27.000 for granted

00:22:27.380 pretty easily.

00:22:28.420 Yeah,

00:22:28.660 it's weird for me.

00:22:29.620 I don't even know

00:22:30.060 if I take it,

00:22:30.580 I just forget,

00:22:31.340 it's like you forget

00:22:32.360 the work that you've

00:22:33.880 put into something.

00:22:35.100 Yeah.

00:22:35.680 You know?

00:22:36.200 We've been doing,

00:22:36.800 me and you've been

00:22:37.320 doing this since 2015.

00:22:38.840 Mm-hmm.

00:22:39.780 So,

00:22:40.760 you know,

00:22:41.000 seven years,

00:22:41.660 eight years.

00:22:42.720 I was in college too.

00:22:44.380 Nine years for me and you.

00:22:45.460 Yeah.

00:22:45.700 I've known you.

00:22:46.320 Just Red Clay Strays.

00:22:47.320 Red Clay Strays has been.

00:22:48.620 And the band before that,

00:22:49.580 what was it called?

00:22:50.580 Coleman Mason Band.

00:22:51.420 It was just a local

00:22:52.260 cover band.

00:22:54.460 Band we don't speak of.

00:22:56.060 Really?

00:22:57.120 We would run

00:22:58.260 the crowd out.

00:22:59.900 Yeah.

00:23:00.300 I love that.

00:23:00.840 Hey, look.

00:23:01.340 Hey, look.

00:23:02.140 Then Red Clay Strays

00:23:02.980 brought them back.

00:23:03.780 Yeah,

00:23:04.000 we're coming as the

00:23:05.260 bar closer, man.

00:23:06.640 They want to get them out,

00:23:07.620 we got them out.

00:23:08.340 Oh,

00:23:08.540 I love that.

00:23:09.900 It's like instead of

00:23:10.720 playing closing time,

00:23:11.780 it's like let's hire

00:23:12.380 this band.

00:23:13.000 Yeah,

00:23:13.380 they'll get them out.

00:23:14.820 They'll get them out.

00:23:15.860 And you want to shut

00:23:16.420 this thing down,

00:23:17.060 we got you.

00:23:17.720 Which even with,

00:23:19.200 which we mainly ran

00:23:19.980 people away because

00:23:20.540 it was so loud,

00:23:21.620 the guitar amps were so loud.

00:23:23.260 But even with

00:23:24.360 Red Clay Strays,

00:23:26.160 we would be,

00:23:27.080 we were playing somewhere

00:23:27.920 in Arkansas

00:23:31.120 where the guy,

00:23:33.160 the sound man

00:23:33.860 come up on stage

00:23:34.940 and he told us

00:23:35.440 to turn down.

00:23:37.000 And I was like,

00:23:37.920 the only thing running

00:23:39.020 through this system

00:23:40.100 that you're wanting

00:23:40.520 to turn down

00:23:40.980 is my vocals.

00:23:41.860 Like the drums

00:23:42.560 are still going to be loud,

00:23:43.440 the guitar is still

00:23:44.300 going to be loud.

00:23:45.320 And so I walk over there

00:23:46.100 and I inch it down

00:23:47.020 just a little bit

00:23:47.700 and, you know,

00:23:49.460 continue playing

00:23:50.400 and he just like

00:23:50.980 walks on after a song

00:23:52.080 just right in the middle

00:23:52.640 of the set.

00:23:53.000 So we're not doing

00:23:53.480 this tonight.

00:23:54.000 And he just walks up

00:23:54.820 and turns everything

00:23:55.900 down by himself.

00:23:57.500 And I was just like,

00:23:58.340 man, if I didn't need

00:23:59.200 this $500,

00:24:00.240 I would freaking

00:24:01.020 leave right now.

00:24:02.100 Yeah.

00:24:03.100 We used to talk

00:24:03.980 a mad game.

00:24:04.480 It was a pack up

00:24:04.980 and leave.

00:24:05.300 That was at a restaurant too.

00:24:06.480 Yeah, that was in

00:24:07.440 JJ's in Little Rock,

00:24:09.800 Arkansas.

00:24:10.380 Was that Little Rock?

00:24:11.580 No, that was

00:24:12.220 Fayetteville, Arkansas.

00:24:13.960 Yeah, that's the

00:24:14.520 tough part.

00:24:14.920 When you're going

00:24:15.320 to compete with

00:24:16.220 people's moment to dine.

00:24:18.840 Yeah.

00:24:19.380 Yeah, that's a dinner.

00:24:20.960 Yeah, those suck.

00:24:21.820 When you're going

00:24:22.100 to say, hey,

00:24:23.800 set that fort down

00:24:24.840 for a second, mama.

00:24:26.380 I got something for you.

00:24:28.000 We'll give you

00:24:28.480 a pork chop.

00:24:28.960 Can you turn the music down?

00:24:31.680 Can you tell them

00:24:32.160 to turn it down?

00:24:33.620 That's what playing

00:24:34.300 with people eating

00:24:34.920 is like.

00:24:35.620 And we used to do

00:24:36.260 our own sound too,

00:24:37.080 so we used to make

00:24:37.600 it real loud

00:24:38.180 because we grew up

00:24:39.600 listening to Skinner

00:24:40.420 and we thought

00:24:40.820 that's how it's supposed

00:24:41.460 to be.

00:24:42.100 Yeah.

00:24:42.520 Just loud.

00:24:43.240 We're still pretty loud.

00:24:44.020 Yeah, we are probably

00:24:44.920 still pretty loud.

00:24:45.820 You know, the number

00:24:46.640 one thing I think

00:24:47.400 that's tough sometimes

00:24:48.120 if I go into

00:24:48.780 like a small venue

00:24:49.760 or like a,

00:24:50.920 just like a bar

00:24:53.460 and somebody's playing

00:24:54.220 is if you can't hear

00:24:55.640 the vocals a lot of times.

00:24:56.700 Oh, yeah.

00:24:57.100 It sucks.

00:24:59.560 Because you're like,

00:25:00.180 I might love this.

00:25:02.080 Yeah.

00:25:02.420 That's why we try

00:25:03.360 to hire a good sound guy.

00:25:05.460 Dude, the sound guy

00:25:06.460 is what,

00:25:07.040 I mean,

00:25:07.320 that's your,

00:25:08.460 he's practically

00:25:09.360 a member of the band.

00:25:10.240 He's making you sound

00:25:10.980 good for everybody.

00:25:11.920 That's a good point.

00:25:12.340 And we've been to

00:25:12.880 a lot of big concerts

00:25:13.660 which are like,

00:25:14.020 this sounds like crap

00:25:14.960 and this sucks

00:25:15.920 because we know

00:25:16.300 how good that band is.

00:25:17.580 It doesn't matter

00:25:18.300 how good the music is.

00:25:19.240 If you can't understand

00:25:20.060 or can't hear something

00:25:21.500 then it's pointless.

00:25:23.440 Yeah, there's a lot of,

00:25:24.180 a lot of venues

00:25:24.760 aren't really built

00:25:25.420 for comedy or music

00:25:27.360 where you have to end up

00:25:28.140 playing too

00:25:28.680 which is kind of wild.

00:25:30.160 You know,

00:25:30.720 like recently

00:25:31.160 I went to some places

00:25:32.120 and the venue just wasn't,

00:25:34.060 it's not the perfect venue

00:25:35.100 but it's the only one

00:25:36.220 in that area

00:25:37.060 that you can play.

00:25:40.100 We've been to those

00:25:40.740 where you walk in

00:25:41.380 and the reverb

00:25:42.320 in the room

00:25:43.580 is just ridiculous.

00:25:44.820 Yeah.

00:25:44.960 You just know

00:25:45.440 you're just gonna blow

00:25:46.060 these people's heads off.

00:25:47.820 That's part of it.

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00:28:09.440 when it came to the,

00:28:12.100 yeah,

00:28:12.360 the name of the band,

00:28:13.000 how'd you guys

00:28:13.480 figure that out?

00:28:14.880 Man,

00:28:15.280 that story's not even

00:28:16.120 that cool.

00:28:17.260 You'd think it would be.

00:28:18.260 Well,

00:28:18.480 Red Clay's all over Alabama.

00:28:20.040 Yeah.

00:28:20.360 You know,

00:28:20.840 you get over anywhere

00:28:21.680 over there.

00:28:23.180 I didn't like the name

00:28:23.880 at first.

00:28:24.400 I don't think any of us

00:28:25.140 liked any name

00:28:25.800 we came up with.

00:28:26.680 What were some

00:28:27.480 other options?

00:28:27.960 Oh,

00:28:28.260 dude,

00:28:28.600 one of the band

00:28:29.220 likes a lot,

00:28:29.840 Brandon Lane

00:28:30.380 and the Hurricanes.

00:28:31.800 We on the Gulf Coast,

00:28:32.920 we got Hurricanes,

00:28:33.640 that's his middle name Lane.

00:28:35.240 It's perfect.

00:28:35.840 I love that.

00:28:36.840 I liked it too.

00:28:37.660 That'll be the alter ego.

00:28:38.680 The alter ego.

00:28:39.620 No,

00:28:39.800 but my brother

00:28:40.960 came up with it

00:28:41.800 just randomly.

00:28:44.000 Brandon Lane

00:28:44.700 and the Hurricanes,

00:28:45.940 Red Clay Straits.

00:28:46.800 We had the Dirt Leg

00:28:47.840 Trio for a little while

00:28:48.800 when it was just me,

00:28:49.520 Brandon,

00:28:49.840 and John.

00:28:50.860 Yeah,

00:28:51.260 Dirt Leg.

00:28:51.520 The Dirt Leg Trio.

00:28:52.580 We're from South Alabama.

00:28:53.620 We're not good at making up names.

00:28:55.520 Yeah,

00:28:55.820 that one I think

00:28:56.660 is a little bit,

00:28:57.840 that's like a gangrene.

00:28:59.100 That feels more

00:29:00.180 like an infection.

00:29:02.420 Staff,

00:29:03.500 the Staff Boys.

00:29:04.620 The Staff Boys.

00:29:06.160 Something I got

00:29:06.720 from my job,

00:29:07.420 it's like,

00:29:08.520 they wouldn't say,

00:29:09.740 you redneck,

00:29:10.360 they'd say,

00:29:10.700 you dirt leg.

00:29:11.280 Dirt leg,

00:29:11.780 that's worse than redneck.

00:29:12.120 What is a dirt leg?

00:29:13.100 And they're like,

00:29:13.620 well,

00:29:13.780 here's a redneck

00:29:14.540 and then here's a dirt leg.

00:29:15.880 It's like,

00:29:16.800 trashier,

00:29:17.920 worse of a person,

00:29:19.800 you know,

00:29:20.260 steal from you,

00:29:21.280 they're a dirt leg.

00:29:22.200 Damn.

00:29:23.140 We would have somebody call,

00:29:24.240 yeah,

00:29:24.340 we call like a dirt serpent.

00:29:25.760 That's Kid Rock,

00:29:26.560 we call him.

00:29:27.700 I would say,

00:29:28.260 yeah,

00:29:28.400 I'd say Kid Rock

00:29:29.060 falls in that dirt leg category.

00:29:30.540 Yeah.

00:29:31.400 I just described a lot

00:29:33.100 of bad stuff.

00:29:34.040 I know,

00:29:34.620 I'm just joking.

00:29:35.440 No,

00:29:35.660 he's like,

00:29:36.220 yeah,

00:29:36.640 he's more of a dirt serpent.

00:29:37.900 He's like a leader

00:29:39.120 of a club.

00:29:41.340 Yeah,

00:29:41.500 you just had him not to,

00:29:42.460 oh,

00:29:42.680 there's a,

00:29:43.160 whoa,

00:29:43.700 he brought up

00:29:44.200 the Urban Dictionary.

00:29:45.620 Dirt leg,

00:29:46.180 a female looking

00:29:46.900 for a quick fuck

00:29:47.940 who only has enough time

00:29:49.220 to take one pant leg off.

00:29:50.900 Oh,

00:29:51.180 God.

00:29:51.420 Where we came from.

00:29:52.500 We ain't got those.

00:29:53.860 Getting the other pant leg

00:29:55.200 dirty.

00:29:56.520 All right.

00:29:57.620 Dirt leg.

00:29:58.320 All right.

00:29:59.720 Um,

00:30:00.440 yeah,

00:30:00.620 they just put that

00:30:01.300 TikTok ban into.

00:30:02.640 Yeah,

00:30:02.900 we actually,

00:30:03.520 on the way down here,

00:30:04.660 or on the way up here,

00:30:05.320 we actually just saw that.

00:30:06.400 Were you guys seeing that?

00:30:08.040 I've seen it on Instagram.

00:30:09.120 Yeah,

00:30:09.300 we saw it on the news.

00:30:10.140 Let me see.

00:30:10.460 Congress had passed the bill

00:30:11.520 this week as part of a

00:30:12.320 wide ranging foreign aid

00:30:13.580 package meant to support

00:30:14.780 Israel and Ukraine.

00:30:15.740 It was approved by the House

00:30:16.660 on Saturday

00:30:17.160 and by the Senate

00:30:18.160 on Tuesday.

00:30:19.120 And it also had TikTok

00:30:19.900 hidden in,

00:30:20.420 is that what I was saying?

00:30:21.380 Yeah.

00:30:21.760 Welcome to our government.

00:30:23.020 I know.

00:30:23.640 They always be doing that.

00:30:25.600 Yeah.

00:30:25.960 Ain't reading that fine print,

00:30:26.920 people,

00:30:27.160 now we lost TikTok.

00:30:27.740 It's going to suck

00:30:28.500 if it actually goes away though.

00:30:29.820 I know.

00:30:30.420 Man,

00:30:30.640 there's got to be

00:30:31.140 something behind it.

00:30:31.880 Even our band

00:30:32.620 has grown so much

00:30:33.800 from TikTok,

00:30:35.000 you know.

00:30:35.480 I don't even be

00:30:36.140 ticking the talk.

00:30:36.840 I don't even,

00:30:37.280 I'm not even on it.

00:30:38.340 It's fun,

00:30:38.980 it's dangerous

00:30:39.700 because you can get

00:30:40.820 into a warp zone

00:30:41.920 where you look up

00:30:43.180 and suddenly

00:30:43.660 your family's not,

00:30:44.980 hasn't eaten.

00:30:46.580 You know,

00:30:47.260 I could see that easily.

00:30:48.140 Somebody's scrolling

00:30:48.820 on TikTok

00:30:49.180 and then they're just,

00:30:50.160 they look up

00:30:50.700 and their children

00:30:51.120 haven't eaten,

00:30:51.640 you know.

00:30:51.780 That's what any scroll

00:30:52.820 or the death scroll.

00:30:53.920 Death scroll.

00:30:54.660 Instagram or TikTok.

00:30:55.840 See,

00:30:56.020 I get all my reels

00:30:57.740 and I'd say it gets mad

00:30:58.440 because I'm like

00:30:58.920 six months behind.

00:31:00.480 Oh yeah,

00:31:00.840 y'all are behind over there.

00:31:01.500 I do the YouTube shorts too.

00:31:03.460 That's my death scroll.

00:31:04.780 Oh yeah.

00:31:05.280 So I'm getting like

00:31:05.960 eight months,

00:31:06.600 nine months behind.

00:31:07.780 Yeah.

00:31:08.320 I mean,

00:31:08.480 you're in hospice.

00:31:09.340 The reason I like TikTok

00:31:10.180 is you can ask him,

00:31:12.520 like all of my Instagram stuff

00:31:13.760 is just messed up people.

00:31:15.360 We get dark.

00:31:16.240 Our Instagram reels get dark.

00:31:17.680 People getting their motorcycle wrecks

00:31:19.080 and just a lot of crazy stuff

00:31:20.840 that I'm like,

00:31:21.240 how is this on Instagram?

00:31:21.860 We done screwed

00:31:22.440 our algorithms up.

00:31:23.340 But then TikTok is like,

00:31:24.360 well,

00:31:24.460 here's how you make a garden

00:31:25.280 in your backyard

00:31:25.860 or here's how you.

00:31:26.780 For now,

00:31:27.260 until you get on

00:31:27.800 the dark side of TikTok.

00:31:28.920 I haven't been on

00:31:29.460 the dark side of TikTok.

00:31:30.080 I don't want to get over there.

00:31:32.160 Don't start searching things.

00:31:33.500 What are some things?

00:31:34.200 Look under some of my links.

00:31:35.640 I have a couple of favorites

00:31:36.540 that I've had on there recently.

00:31:38.200 Oh,

00:31:38.340 here we go right here.

00:31:39.220 Now,

00:31:39.380 this is something I saw.

00:31:40.940 This is called

00:31:42.360 the Oriental Shorthair.

00:31:44.800 These are tubular,

00:31:46.820 long and tubular

00:31:47.760 with rock hard bodies,

00:31:49.860 tight clothesline coats.

00:31:51.560 That's a cat.

00:31:52.120 And then they have

00:31:52.740 the way to explain

00:31:53.580 what a cat is.

00:31:54.500 That thing ate a ruler,

00:31:55.660 homie,

00:31:55.920 that thing.

00:31:57.820 That's a different

00:31:58.420 ethnicity of a cat.

00:31:59.140 Cat got your measuring stick,

00:32:00.680 huh?

00:32:01.660 That thing's out of town.

00:32:04.820 That was a wiener dog

00:32:05.920 at first.

00:32:06.180 Yeah,

00:32:06.380 it is.

00:32:06.820 That's a damn wiener cat.

00:32:08.340 Wiener cat.

00:32:08.800 Wiener cat, dude.

00:32:09.780 You don't want to see

00:32:10.480 our recent searches.

00:32:12.040 Really?

00:32:12.360 It's getting pretty bad?

00:32:13.020 It gets pretty bad.

00:32:13.540 Well,

00:32:13.720 those are some of them.

00:32:14.500 That's one of my faves.

00:32:15.500 I'll go through a couple more.

00:32:16.520 With the cat videos?

00:32:17.240 Well,

00:32:19.340 yeah,

00:32:19.620 we might as well enjoy

00:32:20.360 TikTok while we got it

00:32:21.360 because we ain't going

00:32:22.060 to have it much longer.

00:32:23.280 And that's Asian guy

00:32:24.320 walking with turtle

00:32:25.240 and that's always

00:32:25.880 a beautiful,

00:32:27.460 that's really,

00:32:28.440 You have a very

00:32:28.880 wholesome algorithm.

00:32:30.100 That's like the notebook

00:32:30.960 in Japan, dude.

00:32:32.100 That video right there.

00:32:34.280 It's their notebook.

00:32:35.860 What else do we have?

00:32:39.420 Oh,

00:32:39.880 look at that.

00:32:40.740 Oh,

00:32:40.920 this guy's a little

00:32:41.560 nativity scene on the go.

00:32:42.840 This is like DoorDash

00:32:43.660 nativity scene.

00:32:44.420 Play it one more time.

00:32:45.140 Is that all it is?

00:32:46.060 Yeah.

00:32:46.280 It's like 40 bucks

00:32:47.400 the dude pulls up.

00:32:48.940 Oh.

00:32:51.500 It's like those things

00:32:52.440 at the fair.

00:32:52.680 Does he have like

00:32:52.700 an actual little baby

00:32:53.500 he could start using too

00:32:54.460 for Christmas?

00:32:55.300 Probably.

00:32:56.060 If his wife,

00:32:56.840 maybe if he's probably

00:32:57.760 got to ask his wife.

00:32:58.660 Reminds me of those

00:32:59.380 booths at the fair

00:33:00.480 you pay like 20 bucks

00:33:01.800 to go see the snake lady.

00:33:03.700 Oh,

00:33:04.180 yeah.

00:33:04.540 You walk in

00:33:04.820 and it's just like a...

00:33:05.680 We just had a carnival

00:33:06.520 worker on

00:33:07.000 and his grandfather

00:33:08.260 was the great Lentini

00:33:09.800 and he had three legs

00:33:11.460 and two penises.

00:33:15.420 Okay.

00:33:15.780 And...

00:33:16.640 I thought that was

00:33:17.260 his third guy.

00:33:17.620 Well endowed.

00:33:18.400 No,

00:33:18.740 that's what people

00:33:19.320 thought at first.

00:33:20.080 Like,

00:33:20.220 damn,

00:33:20.520 one of these things

00:33:21.100 needs a shoe on it.

00:33:22.480 Oh,

00:33:22.860 this is real.

00:33:24.000 Yeah,

00:33:24.200 this is a real guy.

00:33:24.800 Frank Lentini right there.

00:33:26.120 Wow.

00:33:26.860 He's got his own Wikipedia.

00:33:28.160 But wait,

00:33:28.940 you said his dad?

00:33:30.440 The carnival worker

00:33:32.060 that we had in

00:33:32.840 named Mitch,

00:33:33.880 he had a granddaddy.

00:33:37.040 Okay,

00:33:37.400 because that guy

00:33:37.760 was born in 1889.

00:33:39.680 Yeah,

00:33:39.960 this guy.

00:33:41.360 Where is he from?

00:33:44.640 Damn Narnia probably.

00:33:46.800 That's the stuff

00:33:47.420 you see in like

00:33:47.900 the Marvel movies though,

00:33:48.920 man.

00:33:49.100 Dude,

00:33:49.540 I bet that dude

00:33:50.260 could run a foot race,

00:33:51.660 play soccer.

00:33:52.200 I bet he could

00:33:52.620 climb up walls and stuff.

00:33:54.020 Oh,

00:33:54.440 I bet that dude.

00:33:54.880 That's a modern day

00:33:55.560 Spider-Man.

00:33:56.220 That's what I was going to say.

00:33:56.720 I bet he lives in a web.

00:33:57.860 that would be,

00:33:59.000 yeah.

00:34:00.040 I can't think

00:34:00.520 they have one nude picture

00:34:01.520 of this man.

00:34:02.320 I wonder what his

00:34:03.200 attitude was.

00:34:04.720 You think he had

00:34:05.200 like a temper

00:34:05.740 when getting bar fights

00:34:06.720 and just start

00:34:07.240 kicking people?

00:34:08.620 That's a great call,

00:34:09.780 huh?

00:34:10.100 It would be crazy

00:34:10.820 if you're standing there

00:34:11.620 talking to him

00:34:12.080 and then one of his foot

00:34:12.940 just puts a cigarette

00:34:13.820 into his mouth.

00:34:14.780 You know,

00:34:15.080 this is what the UFC

00:34:15.860 is missing right here.

00:34:16.960 It really is.

00:34:18.300 What if you think

00:34:18.700 the weirdos,

00:34:19.380 like the people from Nick

00:34:20.920 who have like feet things,

00:34:22.460 like they've seen this guy,

00:34:23.540 it's like.

00:34:24.040 Oh,

00:34:24.220 on Foot Finder,

00:34:24.960 this guy would have been,

00:34:27.120 yeah.

00:34:27.880 Spokesman.

00:34:29.100 Oh,

00:34:29.540 he would have been

00:34:30.060 the Naomi Campbell

00:34:30.940 of Foot Finder.

00:34:31.020 Three legs,

00:34:31.620 four feet,

00:34:32.200 16 toes.

00:34:33.980 Come see him,

00:34:34.660 boy.

00:34:34.800 That math ain't

00:34:35.860 adding,

00:34:36.300 that math ain't

00:34:36.840 mathing,

00:34:37.280 is it?

00:34:37.640 Yeah,

00:34:37.940 it was a different time,

00:34:38.680 different math.

00:34:39.640 Now,

00:34:39.840 didn't they ban all that?

00:34:40.380 15,

00:34:40.800 he had one extra.

00:34:42.360 Didn't they ban,

00:34:43.200 like,

00:34:43.660 you can't show yourself

00:34:44.600 off in carnivals

00:34:45.280 and stuff?

00:34:45.820 Like freak shows?

00:34:46.680 Did they ban them?

00:34:47.660 Let's look that up.

00:34:48.220 I thought they did.

00:34:48.740 It was considered inhumane.

00:34:50.120 That's a good question.

00:34:50.580 What if you,

00:34:51.160 like,

00:34:51.340 sign yourself up?

00:34:52.880 It didn't matter.

00:34:53.580 They banned it anyway.

00:34:54.920 Freak shows remained popular

00:34:55.820 until the 1940s

00:34:56.540 when public opinion

00:34:57.280 began to shift.

00:34:58.580 Throughout the 20th century,

00:34:59.680 several federal laws

00:35:00.740 made discrimination

00:35:01.500 against people

00:35:02.300 with physical disabilities

00:35:03.280 illegal,

00:35:04.280 and the exhibition

00:35:04.980 of extraordinary bodies

00:35:06.180 was outlawed

00:35:06.980 in some states.

00:35:08.140 Wow.

00:35:08.540 Now,

00:35:08.700 that seems a little prejudiced

00:35:09.920 if you ask me.

00:35:09.980 What I read was

00:35:10.780 the freaks in the freak shows

00:35:12.280 got mad

00:35:13.000 because they were like,

00:35:13.760 this is how we make a living.

00:35:14.680 Yeah,

00:35:15.120 of course.

00:35:15.400 People pay to look at me,

00:35:17.120 but I don't know

00:35:17.500 how true that was.

00:35:18.140 Well,

00:35:18.260 it's like the Redskins

00:35:19.920 now having to probably

00:35:21.060 change their name back

00:35:22.060 because the natives

00:35:22.780 got mad at them

00:35:23.460 for changing it.

00:35:24.260 Oh,

00:35:24.400 they did now?

00:35:25.060 They got mad at them

00:35:25.620 for changing it?

00:35:26.040 That's what I've read,

00:35:26.340 yeah.

00:35:27.280 They're trying to

00:35:27.660 change it back now?

00:35:28.500 Yeah.

00:35:29.180 Supposedly.

00:35:29.620 Wow,

00:35:29.880 my friend Cliff Kingsbury

00:35:30.900 is coaching up there.

00:35:31.840 It's his first year up there.

00:35:33.820 Offensive coordinator.

00:35:38.640 Oh,

00:35:38.900 wow.

00:35:39.260 I did sports medicine

00:35:40.200 in college,

00:35:40.740 so I did some of his

00:35:41.600 rehabilitation.

00:35:42.740 Damn,

00:35:43.020 and is he healthy now?

00:35:44.060 Yeah.

00:35:44.480 Well,

00:35:44.880 he just came off an injury,

00:35:45.900 but he's good.

00:35:46.680 Damn.

00:35:47.160 Good enough to be

00:35:47.740 playing with the commanders.

00:35:50.340 Which,

00:35:50.780 who knows if that's that good.

00:35:52.360 We'll see.

00:35:52.940 We'll see.

00:35:53.560 Remains to be seen.

00:35:54.760 He's getting paid.

00:35:56.600 Yeah,

00:35:56.880 which states outlawed

00:35:58.200 those shows?

00:36:01.100 That's kind of interesting.

00:36:02.160 I wonder if it was like,

00:36:04.040 like who would do it?

00:36:06.060 I wonder what states

00:36:06.740 would do it.

00:36:07.280 Southern states

00:36:08.140 or.

00:36:08.820 Well,

00:36:09.180 I wonder if they looked

00:36:09.880 at it as like,

00:36:10.560 you're just.

00:36:10.920 It's hard to imagine

00:36:11.540 the political demographic

00:36:12.920 back then in the 40s.

00:36:14.220 I wonder if it's like

00:36:14.900 you're bringing like,

00:36:16.220 you can't really call them

00:36:17.020 special.

00:36:17.420 It's like handicapped people

00:36:18.620 and making a show of them.

00:36:20.640 But what if they sign up

00:36:21.780 and they want to make

00:36:22.320 the show themselves?

00:36:23.340 Well,

00:36:23.560 they have the same thing

00:36:24.460 type of now

00:36:25.240 where it's,

00:36:26.860 you know,

00:36:27.100 they have like

00:36:27.840 a lot of people

00:36:30.740 with what some people

00:36:32.320 call disabilities

00:36:33.280 have like shows

00:36:35.660 on TikTok

00:36:36.120 or social media

00:36:38.280 channels.

00:36:39.580 Yeah,

00:36:39.940 TLC.

00:36:40.400 Their whole network

00:36:41.400 is based off

00:36:42.780 of people

00:36:43.280 with four

00:36:45.280 necks

00:36:47.620 or whatever,

00:36:48.160 you know,

00:36:48.420 or double,

00:36:49.020 you know.

00:36:50.060 Do you ever watch

00:36:50.860 My Strange Addiction?

00:36:52.700 That was one I watched

00:36:53.520 when I was younger.

00:36:54.060 It'd be like

00:36:54.460 lady drinking gasoline.

00:36:56.100 Oh,

00:36:56.280 yeah.

00:36:56.480 One lady liked

00:36:56.920 to eat toilet paper.

00:36:58.080 Oh,

00:36:58.340 yeah.

00:36:58.420 She ate the foam

00:36:59.060 out the mattress.

00:37:00.200 She was a big one,

00:37:00.860 too.

00:37:01.000 Went straight to her hips.

00:37:02.640 It sure did.

00:37:03.360 Damn,

00:37:03.720 really?

00:37:04.260 Mm-hmm.

00:37:05.740 Dang,

00:37:06.240 boy.

00:37:06.340 It's like Squidward

00:37:07.040 with them Krabby Patties.

00:37:08.180 You gotta watch out.

00:37:09.460 Pemperpedic,

00:37:09.840 baby.

00:37:10.060 I like them Vickies,

00:37:11.020 baby.

00:37:12.100 I think she ate

00:37:12.720 the springs,

00:37:13.360 too.

00:37:13.480 You'd have to look

00:37:14.280 that one up later.

00:37:15.160 Well,

00:37:15.500 we spoke with a man

00:37:16.740 the other day

00:37:17.100 who ate glass.

00:37:19.200 Was it on the street

00:37:20.080 or was it on the podcast?

00:37:21.300 I can't remember.

00:37:23.720 But,

00:37:24.060 yeah,

00:37:24.200 he's had a lot of it.

00:37:25.660 Mm.

00:37:26.700 You know?

00:37:27.340 I don't like

00:37:28.520 anything like that.

00:37:29.580 I wouldn't think so.

00:37:31.240 Yeah.

00:37:31.700 With the demise

00:37:32.360 of the carnival

00:37:32.860 and important slice

00:37:33.620 of American history

00:37:34.560 risk being lost,

00:37:35.560 but the residents

00:37:36.180 of Gibsonton,

00:37:38.240 Florida,

00:37:38.720 are trying to keep

00:37:39.420 the legacy

00:37:39.960 of the town's

00:37:40.620 famous freaks alive.

00:37:42.260 I think a town

00:37:42.820 of freaks.

00:37:43.980 Yeah.

00:37:45.080 It is Florida.

00:37:46.440 Gibtown was a utopia.

00:37:48.040 Its first settlers,

00:37:48.960 the giant,

00:37:49.480 and his wife,

00:37:50.040 the half woman,

00:37:50.740 ran a campsite,

00:37:51.540 a bake shop,

00:37:52.100 and the fire department.

00:37:53.600 Wow.

00:37:54.860 That's a whole town

00:37:55.780 of the freak show.

00:37:57.280 In the golden days

00:37:58.140 of American carnival,

00:37:58.960 all roads led

00:37:59.920 to Gibsonton,

00:38:01.020 Florida.

00:38:01.560 The self-defined

00:38:02.480 14,900 inhabitant town

00:38:05.440 12 miles south of Tampa

00:38:06.980 became the industry capital

00:38:08.760 Kearney Town.

00:38:10.360 They must have been next

00:38:11.440 to like one of those

00:38:12.240 power plants.

00:38:14.340 It makes me wonder though

00:38:15.460 like if it became illegal

00:38:19.120 to like stare at freaks

00:38:21.020 in a freak show,

00:38:21.960 but it's okay to go watch

00:38:25.860 mentally handicapped people

00:38:27.600 in the Olympics and stuff.

00:38:29.100 Why is one acceptable

00:38:30.120 and one's not?

00:38:31.740 That's a good question.

00:38:34.280 Yeah.

00:38:35.160 Is it just because

00:38:35.800 one's doing sports

00:38:37.060 and the other's just

00:38:38.000 sitting on a couch?

00:38:39.300 Shoot juggling?

00:38:40.120 I've seen some stuff.

00:38:41.200 You've probably seen

00:38:41.820 them juggling.

00:38:42.160 Yeah, you would think

00:38:42.840 like that's a sport.

00:38:45.040 Dude, I think it's like

00:38:46.420 it doesn't even

00:38:47.000 people with handicaps

00:38:48.260 are more like

00:38:49.900 if you watch this show

00:38:50.960 with dating

00:38:52.940 under the influence

00:38:54.020 of Down Syndrome

00:38:55.380 or whatever,

00:38:55.800 what is it called?

00:38:57.300 Down for Love.

00:38:58.340 I've heard of it.

00:38:59.720 Dating on.

00:39:00.460 I've never watched it,

00:39:01.200 but I've heard of it.

00:39:01.800 It's amazing, right?

00:39:02.680 And it's just like

00:39:03.540 it's people that have

00:39:04.400 disabilities.

00:39:05.000 Some of them are

00:39:05.360 Down Syndrome

00:39:05.720 and they go on first dates,

00:39:07.540 right?

00:39:07.780 And they start

00:39:08.180 to learn relationships

00:39:09.140 and they are just

00:39:11.040 as awkward

00:39:11.820 as anybody

00:39:12.700 that doesn't have

00:39:14.360 the disabilities,

00:39:16.820 you know?

00:39:17.160 In fact,

00:39:17.800 sometimes

00:39:18.440 they are better

00:39:20.140 at dating

00:39:20.940 than people

00:39:21.820 that have disabilities

00:39:22.820 because they're

00:39:24.020 a little bit more

00:39:24.820 frank about what's

00:39:25.880 going on.

00:39:26.400 A little more open,

00:39:26.820 a little more bold

00:39:27.340 about it.

00:39:27.920 Yeah, yeah.

00:39:28.660 It's fascinating.

00:39:29.540 That show's fascinating.

00:39:30.860 I was just watching

00:39:32.200 Baby Reindeer.

00:39:33.940 Have you seen that?

00:39:34.680 Mm-mm.

00:39:35.660 We don't watch cable.

00:39:36.740 I don't really have

00:39:37.360 a lot of time

00:39:37.800 to watch TV.

00:39:39.600 Damn,

00:39:40.180 I'm living in damn

00:39:40.840 luxuries.

00:39:42.200 We ain't got cable.

00:39:43.140 I try to watch stuff

00:39:44.060 on the bus,

00:39:44.720 but I usually just

00:39:45.720 end up falling asleep.

00:39:46.380 Yeah, that's impossible.

00:39:48.520 What's Baby Reindeer?

00:39:49.900 Baby Reindeer.

00:39:50.800 It's this guy,

00:39:52.100 Richard Gad

00:39:53.160 is his name,

00:39:54.300 and he writes this.

00:39:56.120 It's amazing.

00:39:57.620 It's like eight episodes

00:39:58.900 or six episodes.

00:39:59.760 It's about

00:40:00.040 he had a stalker

00:40:02.600 and it goes from there.

00:40:06.480 That's a...

00:40:07.060 It's British.

00:40:07.700 The setup is...

00:40:08.660 Is there reindeer involved?

00:40:10.740 It just...

00:40:11.780 It said he looks

00:40:12.700 like a reindeer.

00:40:13.120 There's a baby reindeer.

00:40:14.180 It looks like a reindeer.

00:40:15.960 Interesting.

00:40:16.800 That sounds cool.

00:40:17.740 You guys have

00:40:18.320 one full album out, right?

00:40:19.740 Mm-hmm.

00:40:20.680 Yeah.

00:40:21.840 And now you're

00:40:23.440 putting together

00:40:23.900 another album.

00:40:25.380 It's put together.

00:40:26.480 Oh, it's done?

00:40:27.080 It's done.

00:40:27.820 Okay.

00:40:28.180 It's ready to come out.

00:40:28.800 It'll be coming out

00:40:29.160 here in the very near future.

00:40:31.920 Wow.

00:40:32.780 Hopefully by the end

00:40:33.400 of summertime.

00:40:34.340 How does that feel?

00:40:35.780 What's that?

00:40:36.260 Because that's really...

00:40:39.040 I can't wait

00:40:40.680 for people to hear it

00:40:41.520 because it's

00:40:41.900 just a lot better

00:40:44.000 of an album

00:40:44.500 than the first album

00:40:45.320 as far as production goes

00:40:46.480 because we recorded it

00:40:48.040 with Dave Cobb.

00:40:49.320 Oh, yeah.

00:40:49.900 Chris Stapleton.

00:40:51.320 Mm-hmm.

00:40:51.580 Yeah.

00:40:52.120 He's done

00:40:52.540 all our heroes, yeah.

00:40:55.080 It's been a...

00:40:55.780 It was always a goal

00:40:56.600 of ours to work with Dave

00:40:57.840 since we

00:40:58.640 very first started.

00:41:00.440 Yeah, there he is.

00:41:01.300 And now,

00:41:01.880 how does that come to pass

00:41:02.780 that you guys

00:41:03.320 get to match up with him?

00:41:04.600 Does he reach out to you?

00:41:05.700 Do you start to

00:41:06.860 interview a series

00:41:08.360 of producers?

00:41:10.080 No, we actually,

00:41:10.800 at the time,

00:41:11.400 we were looking up studios.

00:41:14.420 So we wanted to go

00:41:15.560 to a studio

00:41:16.660 where the Alabama Shakes

00:41:18.240 recorded their first album.

00:41:19.340 I think it was called

00:41:19.760 The Bomb Shelter.

00:41:20.560 Here in Nashville.

00:41:21.420 In Nashville.

00:41:22.240 And that was the plan

00:41:23.840 until Brandon Molden,

00:41:27.620 who works with

00:41:28.380 Conway Entertainment,

00:41:29.320 which is where

00:41:29.700 our manager works,

00:41:30.900 made the connection.

00:41:31.760 He reached out

00:41:32.180 to Dave for us

00:41:32.920 and he was like,

00:41:33.340 hey, we represent this band

00:41:35.500 if you're interested

00:41:36.320 in working with them.

00:41:37.180 And Dave knew who we were.

00:41:38.820 And so he was like,

00:41:40.000 yeah, I'd love to work with them.

00:41:41.320 And then he set up

00:41:42.320 a Zoom call with us

00:41:43.980 and reached out

00:41:44.820 and we talked to him

00:41:46.220 that day.

00:41:46.840 We were actually

00:41:47.340 on the way to a show.

00:41:48.160 We had to pull over

00:41:48.680 on the side of the road

00:41:49.440 and talk with him.

00:41:50.660 And so the van

00:41:52.920 wouldn't make such a noise

00:41:53.780 so he could talk.

00:41:54.760 It's so loud in there.

00:41:56.020 We were like,

00:41:56.480 we stopped for some barbecue too.

00:41:57.900 So I'm like eating

00:41:58.400 a barbecue sandwich

00:41:59.200 talking to Dave.

00:41:59.920 But there was no service.

00:42:00.820 They were like walking around

00:42:01.660 trying to keep service

00:42:02.600 during this.

00:42:03.280 Because it's like

00:42:03.720 we're talking to one

00:42:04.460 of our heroes

00:42:05.020 in the middle of Alabama

00:42:06.680 in the middle of nowhere.

00:42:08.000 But you're like,

00:42:08.520 these guys can't,

00:42:09.260 they can't even produce a call.

00:42:10.700 They're not going to make anything.

00:42:12.040 We were probably

00:42:12.620 somewhere in Alabama too.

00:42:14.620 Oh, wow.

00:42:15.240 That had to be

00:42:15.720 a pretty magical moment.

00:42:16.900 Yeah, that was.

00:42:17.680 And we didn't know

00:42:18.260 how to feel about it.

00:42:19.040 It was crazy.

00:42:19.740 We're just,

00:42:20.680 we don't really like that

00:42:21.540 the record,

00:42:22.520 the first record that's out.

00:42:23.760 Like I cannot stand

00:42:24.620 to go back and listen to it.

00:42:25.740 Really?

00:42:26.080 At all.

00:42:27.060 It was such a cluster

00:42:28.920 making that thing and.

00:42:30.740 I like it.

00:42:31.140 I like it for what it is.

00:42:32.380 Yeah, for what it is.

00:42:33.360 We'd just gotten out of

00:42:34.500 another record deal

00:42:36.220 that wasn't working for us.

00:42:38.200 And the only way

00:42:39.300 to continue forward

00:42:40.200 was to get out of it.

00:42:41.060 So we finally made it

00:42:42.900 out of that thing

00:42:43.520 and then just on our own

00:42:45.060 not knowing what to do.

00:42:46.220 And, you know,

00:42:47.340 we go to this guy's studio

00:42:49.120 in Huntsville.

00:42:51.720 Sink every dollar we had.

00:42:53.360 Go in the debt making it

00:42:54.500 and that's eventually,

00:42:56.340 we were still unhappy

00:42:57.260 with it trying to make it

00:42:58.180 but eventually

00:42:58.740 we just had to,

00:42:59.660 you know,

00:43:00.640 call it quits

00:43:01.340 and say it's done

00:43:02.180 and then.

00:43:02.780 Was that because of money?

00:43:03.660 Like just had to call it.

00:43:04.660 Yeah.

00:43:04.860 It's just, I mean.

00:43:05.760 Money and time.

00:43:06.360 Yeah, we didn't put

00:43:06.980 all this work in

00:43:07.700 this window of time

00:43:08.840 we opened up for it

00:43:09.860 and we,

00:43:11.320 so this next one though,

00:43:13.020 I listen,

00:43:13.440 we listen to it every day

00:43:14.280 I think

00:43:14.640 and it's incredible.

00:43:16.960 Yeah, I haven't

00:43:17.780 gotten tired of it yet.

00:43:18.500 Yeah, we're ready

00:43:18.960 to put that one out.

00:43:19.740 It's gonna,

00:43:20.540 should be pretty good.

00:43:21.540 Dang, I can't even.

00:43:22.160 Or the people that hate it,

00:43:22.980 we don't know.

00:43:24.060 I can't even imagine

00:43:25.180 because it,

00:43:26.500 yeah, when y'all's music

00:43:27.120 come on, man,

00:43:27.680 it just feels good.

00:43:29.520 Can we listen,

00:43:30.680 will you take me through

00:43:31.440 who comes in

00:43:32.040 on Wondering Why

00:43:32.720 like in the beginning,

00:43:33.520 just in the beginning

00:43:34.040 so I know who the different,

00:43:35.740 because you guys have

00:43:36.860 different band members

00:43:37.600 I want to make sure

00:43:38.200 that I get the gist.

00:43:39.840 Can you play it for us

00:43:40.600 by chance?

00:43:41.020 Do you want to do it

00:43:41.420 in the headphones

00:43:41.860 or...

00:43:42.260 Can you just play it

00:43:42.960 through the...

00:43:43.780 You can play it

00:43:44.360 through the speaker

00:43:44.760 or we can walk through it.

00:43:45.220 Through the telly.

00:43:46.000 Yeah.

00:43:46.320 What song do you want to listen to?

00:43:48.080 Wondering Why.

00:43:49.040 Yeah, yeah,

00:43:49.360 this is it right here.

00:43:50.000 Can you just take,

00:43:50.460 I just want to know

00:43:50.960 who comes in when, right?

00:43:52.740 Because it starts off

00:43:53.520 just with you singing.

00:43:54.640 Mm-hmm.

00:43:55.160 Yeah.

00:43:55.680 You probably won't hear it

00:43:56.560 but I'm in the,

00:43:57.840 right at the second verse.

00:43:59.140 Okay.

00:43:59.420 Or the first verse.

00:44:00.640 But I just play bass,

00:44:01.680 it's not that big of a deal,

00:44:02.520 you know?

00:44:03.300 But you come in,

00:44:05.840 boom.

00:44:06.580 Yeah.

00:44:06.880 That's it.

00:44:07.720 Well,

00:44:08.500 I go through the chorus,

00:44:09.100 but you'll hear it.

00:44:09.560 This is Matthew recording this.

00:44:11.920 That's me doing the...

00:44:15.840 Homey guitar.

00:44:18.120 So that's you on the guitar?

00:44:19.400 Mm-hmm.

00:44:22.980 The old boat paddle.

00:44:24.240 Mm-hmm.

00:44:24.620 And here comes my big moment.

00:44:28.640 Right here.

00:44:29.200 One earlier cut

00:44:37.940 used to have finger snaps

00:44:38.880 right here.

00:44:39.480 Yeah.

00:44:40.240 Ooh, I like that.

00:44:42.520 But who was hitting

00:44:43.160 that cymbal right there?

00:44:43.940 That's John.

00:44:44.700 Okay, that's John.

00:44:47.100 And that's Drew.

00:44:47.960 There's Drew.

00:44:51.460 And then it's everybody?

00:44:52.740 Mm-hmm.

00:44:53.180 That's awesome.

00:44:55.420 And that's Zach in there

00:44:56.440 laying in those backup parts.

00:44:58.840 It's not just a long...

00:45:00.080 Oh, just riding,

00:45:00.860 like fretting that.

00:45:01.360 Does he play a slide on that?

00:45:02.720 Nuh-uh.

00:45:03.100 Okay.

00:45:03.500 Is that called fretting?

00:45:04.360 He does this right here.

00:45:05.240 When you're courting

00:45:06.000 or making courting.

00:45:08.240 That was Zach.

00:45:10.140 Got it.

00:45:11.280 Yeah, I was just listening

00:45:12.320 the other day

00:45:12.620 and I was wondering,

00:45:13.180 I was like,

00:45:13.500 who's coming in when?

00:45:14.780 Just so I know

00:45:15.480 who's doing what.

00:45:17.900 Yeah, what's the collaborating

00:45:19.480 like for an album?

00:45:20.640 Like, do you guys seem to,

00:45:21.960 like, does it get tough?

00:45:23.880 How is it, like,

00:45:24.800 battling egos and stuff?

00:45:26.120 I guess at this point,

00:45:26.980 if you spend that much time

00:45:28.600 in a, like,

00:45:31.320 in that close of quarters,

00:45:33.220 you guys have got it

00:45:34.880 figured out?

00:45:36.640 Oh, we're brothers, man.

00:45:37.900 Yeah.

00:45:38.700 We used to,

00:45:39.500 we would work up songs

00:45:40.880 and in the earlier days,

00:45:43.680 you know,

00:45:43.900 we would get aggravated

00:45:47.220 if we didn't want to

00:45:48.420 take the song

00:45:49.260 in our direction

00:45:49.940 or my direction

00:45:50.920 or Zach's direction

00:45:52.060 or whatever.

00:45:52.440 but somewhere along the line,

00:45:55.080 I think we just,

00:45:55.840 just got to a point

00:45:57.440 where we realized

00:45:58.220 at the end of the day,

00:45:59.160 we all want the same thing

00:46:00.380 is to make good music

00:46:01.600 and so,

00:46:02.640 we try everything,

00:46:04.040 you know,

00:46:04.660 and there's always a,

00:46:06.480 a way to make everybody happy

00:46:08.840 as far as making music

00:46:09.940 like that

00:46:10.440 and we'll try everything

00:46:12.300 even if we have to play

00:46:13.060 the song for eight

00:46:13.800 or nine hours

00:46:14.560 while we're working it up.

00:46:16.540 Just play it over

00:46:17.180 and over again

00:46:17.740 all these different ways

00:46:18.900 until we find

00:46:19.660 the right way

00:46:20.980 and there's not really

00:46:22.580 any egos involved

00:46:24.420 with that,

00:46:25.400 you know.

00:46:26.600 Damn.

00:46:27.040 I don't think a lot of bands

00:46:27.840 are like that,

00:46:28.460 at least I wouldn't think so,

00:46:29.960 so we feel very fortunate

00:46:31.480 to have that relationship.

00:46:32.040 Yeah,

00:46:32.300 I noticed when I met you guys,

00:46:33.840 when I met you guys,

00:46:34.620 we were in Virginia,

00:46:36.500 Charlottesville maybe?

00:46:37.760 You were playing,

00:46:39.160 that's where you brought us

00:46:40.080 out to your show up there.

00:46:41.040 Yeah,

00:46:41.340 you were,

00:46:41.840 where the heck were we?

00:46:43.540 I don't know,

00:46:43.960 I can't remember.

00:46:44.720 Shoot.

00:46:45.300 I feel like it was Charlottesville.

00:46:46.620 I think it was Charlottesville.

00:46:47.860 It was Charlottesville.

00:46:48.900 But we came at the end

00:46:49.780 and saw a couple of you,

00:46:50.560 got to see a couple of the songs.

00:46:51.680 You wore that,

00:46:52.180 that goofy Jeff Gordon jacket.

00:46:53.880 Yeah.

00:46:54.260 I don't,

00:46:54.580 I didn't believe you were

00:46:55.240 going to show up there.

00:46:55.840 Oh yeah.

00:46:56.380 Thea's probably going to come out

00:46:57.360 and I was like,

00:46:57.880 Thea's going to be way too busy

00:46:59.020 to be worried about us.

00:47:00.800 Dude,

00:47:01.160 I had so much fun.

00:47:02.240 Yeah, look,

00:47:02.440 there we are.

00:47:02.940 But y'all's band,

00:47:04.060 everybody,

00:47:04.800 there was just,

00:47:05.500 there was an energy in there.

00:47:07.100 You guys,

00:47:07.520 we all sat in there

00:47:08.300 and just chatted

00:47:08.840 for a little while.

00:47:10.000 But a lot of groups,

00:47:11.060 it's not like that.

00:47:11.840 You'll meet a group

00:47:12.480 of a band sometimes

00:47:13.880 and it's not the same energy.

00:47:15.320 Yeah.

00:47:15.460 We make each other laugh

00:47:18.960 day in and day out.

00:47:20.200 You put five of us,

00:47:21.180 the five of us with each other,

00:47:22.760 we're going to just,

00:47:23.620 we can't help but just

00:47:24.680 crack up laughing.

00:47:27.700 Yeah,

00:47:28.100 because our theme song

00:47:29.780 on the podcast

00:47:30.340 was made by a group

00:47:31.000 called Bishop Gun.

00:47:31.840 Did you guys ever hear of them?

00:47:32.660 Yeah,

00:47:32.820 they're from South,

00:47:33.600 they're not together anymore

00:47:34.880 but they were from

00:47:35.380 South Mississippi.

00:47:36.160 Yeah.

00:47:36.700 And they really had

00:47:37.900 a great start,

00:47:38.900 you know,

00:47:39.280 like they got to open up

00:47:40.180 for the Stones.

00:47:40.520 That's us watching you.

00:47:41.760 Oh, gang, dude,

00:47:43.040 that's awesome.

00:47:44.500 They had us

00:47:44.980 over their side stage.

00:47:47.260 Oh, wow, that's cool.

00:47:47.840 We were there for like

00:47:48.420 five minutes

00:47:48.860 and we were like

00:47:49.380 watching the clock.

00:47:50.900 We had to leave

00:47:51.440 right at a certain time

00:47:52.420 to get back

00:47:52.960 to start our own show.

00:47:54.200 Oh, thanks, man.

00:47:54.540 We didn't want to leave, man.

00:47:56.360 No, it got bad.

00:47:58.900 Did it?

00:47:59.860 We left at a good time.

00:48:01.640 No, we,

00:48:02.120 it's funny

00:48:02.840 because we don't really

00:48:03.460 listen to much music

00:48:04.360 as a group.

00:48:05.420 Like when we come

00:48:05.820 on the bus after a show,

00:48:06.900 it's comedy.

00:48:07.940 Oh, yeah?

00:48:08.420 Yeah, it's Kill Tony's

00:48:10.000 or somebody's stand-up special.

00:48:12.300 Kill Tony's so great, man.

00:48:13.580 We actually saw

00:48:14.800 a couple,

00:48:16.420 I guess it was

00:48:16.860 a couple weeks ago,

00:48:19.360 we went and saw

00:48:20.040 Shane Gillis

00:48:21.820 invite us out.

00:48:22.420 Oh, yeah.

00:48:22.780 He put us up

00:48:23.360 in the suite

00:48:23.820 and everything

00:48:24.260 and then

00:48:24.720 we got to meet

00:48:26.180 freaking Tony

00:48:26.960 and Jeff Ross.

00:48:28.580 Tony was just

00:48:29.020 standing outside

00:48:29.480 smoking a cigarette

00:48:30.320 and we walked up on him.

00:48:31.360 That dude's as goofy

00:48:32.140 as you think he is.

00:48:33.160 Red Clay strange.

00:48:34.240 Yeah.

00:48:34.260 That's what he's like,

00:48:35.160 oh, hey, guys.

00:48:36.100 Hey.

00:48:37.260 Had his big old

00:48:38.140 Texas belt buckle on.

00:48:39.460 You ain't from here.

00:48:40.460 Wow.

00:48:41.680 Yeah, Tony is

00:48:42.680 one of a kind, bro.

00:48:44.520 His show,

00:48:45.180 they have like

00:48:45.600 100,000 people

00:48:47.000 watching it

00:48:47.640 at once

00:48:48.560 when it comes on.

00:48:49.900 That's unprecedented

00:48:51.240 in the world,

00:48:52.240 I feel like.

00:48:52.700 I can't remember

00:48:53.380 how we even

00:48:54.000 discovered it,

00:48:54.860 but it's a,

00:48:57.180 we watch it

00:48:58.040 all the time

00:48:58.480 on the bus.

00:48:59.060 It's just about

00:48:59.880 every night

00:49:00.280 after a show.

00:49:01.060 It's so great.

00:49:01.480 Kill Tony's coming on.

00:49:02.380 It's incredible

00:49:02.680 just what it does.

00:49:04.240 I think we're going

00:49:04.980 to a Kill Tony

00:49:05.840 in a couple,

00:49:08.360 probably I think

00:49:08.980 next month.

00:49:09.980 Yeah, you guys

00:49:10.400 going to head down

00:49:10.780 to Austin?

00:49:11.600 Yeah, we're going to,

00:49:12.360 yeah, we got,

00:49:13.160 I think Tony invited us

00:49:13.960 out to do a Kill Tony

00:49:14.920 with him.

00:49:15.320 Really?

00:49:15.540 I'll be there.

00:49:16.220 Yeah, come hang on.

00:49:16.860 We're going to hang out

00:49:17.520 with you.

00:49:17.740 It's going to be a party then.

00:49:18.580 I think it's at Rogan's place,

00:49:19.740 I'm not mistaken.

00:49:20.780 I don't know where to shoot it.

00:49:21.900 I'm going to go down there

00:49:22.460 for a couple weeks

00:49:22.920 and work on some material.

00:49:24.120 You going to be on the panel

00:49:24.800 that night, you think?

00:49:25.740 I don't know.

00:49:26.620 They asked if we wanted

00:49:27.380 to go on stage

00:49:27.980 and I was like,

00:49:33.760 those poor guys.

00:49:36.220 I've been doing comedy

00:49:36.860 for 13 years

00:49:37.680 and they just get roasted

00:49:38.600 to hell.

00:49:39.280 It's like, dang.

00:49:40.640 Yeah, the balls

00:49:41.800 that that takes

00:49:42.660 because it's so hard

00:49:43.640 to make people laugh

00:49:44.440 in a minute.

00:49:45.140 It would almost be like,

00:49:46.060 hey guys,

00:49:46.480 in one minute,

00:49:47.760 make me believe

00:49:48.960 that you are

00:49:50.200 a good band.

00:49:51.500 Yeah.

00:49:52.640 You can't do that.

00:49:53.620 It'd be really hard.

00:49:54.840 Yeah.

00:49:55.300 Yeah.

00:49:55.620 You know,

00:49:56.160 I mean,

00:49:56.360 you could do a couple riffs

00:49:57.180 or whatever,

00:49:57.460 but I feel like

00:49:57.900 it'd be really tough.

00:50:00.800 That and comedy

00:50:01.580 is just something

00:50:02.060 I don't understand

00:50:03.360 how to make.

00:50:04.320 Yeah.

00:50:04.640 I like sitting there

00:50:05.400 watching it

00:50:06.000 and wondering

00:50:07.360 where a joke's going to go

00:50:08.300 and then the punchline

00:50:09.000 comes in

00:50:09.420 and just makes you roll

00:50:10.480 while you're laughing.

00:50:12.060 I can't do that.

00:50:14.160 So I wouldn't want

00:50:15.240 to go on Kill Tony

00:50:16.780 just for that reason.

00:50:18.760 Yeah.

00:50:18.900 I'd be up there

00:50:19.240 just playing a band.

00:50:21.620 Yeah.

00:50:22.240 I told Brandon,

00:50:23.360 if he ever goes on,

00:50:24.040 you just got to go up there

00:50:24.700 and sing for a minute.

00:50:25.680 That's all you got.

00:50:26.420 That's what you got to do, bro.

00:50:27.460 You're like,

00:50:27.720 I'm not even going to tell him

00:50:28.400 to just give me a guitar.

00:50:28.440 You just lean hard

00:50:29.240 into it.

00:50:29.900 Yeah, lean into what you do

00:50:30.960 best, brother.

00:50:31.940 If they invite you

00:50:32.880 to bring potatoes,

00:50:33.720 bring potatoes, dude.

00:50:35.200 It's just that

00:50:35.780 being a comedian seems,

00:50:37.420 man, it's like

00:50:38.060 we have music

00:50:39.280 to hide behind

00:50:40.000 and we have the five of us

00:50:41.040 or six of us up there

00:50:42.160 to hide behind

00:50:42.840 and we have each other

00:50:44.500 when you're like watching,

00:50:45.680 especially watching you

00:50:46.560 and Shane,

00:50:47.340 it's like you're up there

00:50:47.880 by yourself, man.

00:50:48.620 You're out in the abyss.

00:50:49.420 That's what's so fascinating.

00:50:50.080 You're floating around

00:50:50.980 hoping people laugh

00:50:53.480 or get what they paid for.

00:50:55.740 We couldn't do it with,

00:50:56.960 I think the hardest thing

00:50:57.940 I think to do

00:50:58.480 is that improv

00:50:59.100 where people are working

00:51:00.020 with other people.

00:51:00.840 That's the thing to me

00:51:02.420 that seems like

00:51:02.940 it's really the toughest.

00:51:05.800 That's where I've tried

00:51:07.280 to take improv classes

00:51:08.360 and stuff

00:51:08.760 and I was not good

00:51:09.580 at it in Los Angeles.

00:51:11.040 You weren't good

00:51:11.500 at improv.

00:51:11.940 It was so hard, man.

00:51:13.480 It was like,

00:51:14.420 because it's just,

00:51:15.560 you're so used,

00:51:16.380 as a comedian,

00:51:17.000 you're so used to just,

00:51:18.420 yeah,

00:51:19.680 I was just so used

00:51:20.460 to controlling things myself

00:51:22.100 that I would just,

00:51:24.360 I don't know.

00:51:25.240 It was hard to do it

00:51:27.980 with somebody else,

00:51:28.920 I guess,

00:51:29.200 to trust that somebody else

00:51:30.360 it was going to work well,

00:51:31.560 you know.

00:51:33.460 It's kind of that.

00:51:34.380 Probably chemistry too, though.

00:51:35.620 Yeah,

00:51:35.820 there's a surreal moment

00:51:36.820 for even us.

00:51:37.720 It's like,

00:51:38.040 it's hard to believe

00:51:38.800 that people are coming

00:51:39.620 to see you do what you do.

00:51:41.240 Oh, it's crazy.

00:51:41.640 And it doesn't feel right.

00:51:42.940 One time I was stuck in traffic.

00:51:44.100 We were coming back

00:51:44.400 from the YMCA

00:51:45.020 from working out for a show

00:51:46.300 and I was like,

00:51:47.280 man, what the fuck, dude?

00:51:48.800 This fucking town.

00:51:50.780 And it was traffic

00:51:51.480 from my show.

00:51:52.340 Coming to you.

00:51:52.820 And the driver goes,

00:51:55.920 dude,

00:51:56.080 these people are going

00:51:57.040 to see you.

00:51:58.360 Oh, no.

00:51:58.860 I was like,

00:51:59.460 oh, shit, man.

00:52:00.340 You're complaining

00:52:00.880 about the traffic.

00:52:01.600 See, that's when we,

00:52:02.220 these people are awesome.

00:52:03.620 That's one of our goals

00:52:04.580 when you've made it

00:52:05.240 is when you can shut down

00:52:06.100 the damn freeway

00:52:06.940 outside of the arena,

00:52:09.160 that's when you've made it.

00:52:09.800 That's how we felt

00:52:10.420 pulling up to your show

00:52:11.860 with all that traffic.

00:52:12.480 Dude, it was like,

00:52:13.080 are we even going to have time

00:52:13.980 to get in?

00:52:14.620 We're like sitting in traffic.

00:52:15.880 We get out

00:52:16.280 and just start walking.

00:52:17.320 The Uber's just like,

00:52:18.140 we'll just get out here.

00:52:19.240 And we just started walking

00:52:20.180 down the sidewalk.

00:52:20.680 Literally the red clay strays, dude.

00:52:22.820 You guys just wandered around.

00:52:24.240 Yeah.

00:52:25.420 I think we're in a cool spot

00:52:26.840 right now to where it's like,

00:52:28.160 we definitely get noticed

00:52:29.160 a lot now,

00:52:30.040 but it's still hit or miss

00:52:31.900 in some places.

00:52:33.360 Oh, yeah.

00:52:33.820 Especially if I wear a hat.

00:52:35.060 It's like an imposter syndrome

00:52:36.500 for us, too.

00:52:37.560 Like, it just doesn't make sense

00:52:39.540 to us why people

00:52:40.360 like what we don't feel.

00:52:42.420 I mean, we feel what we do

00:52:43.700 is half-assed mediocre, you know?

00:52:46.620 It's just like,

00:52:47.040 you could go spend your time

00:52:47.960 and money on a lot better things.

00:52:50.100 Well, people,

00:52:51.300 but even talking to me

00:52:52.540 about the number of shows

00:52:53.380 you guys did last year,

00:52:54.420 I mean,

00:52:55.000 that, you know,

00:52:56.120 the only person I've heard talk

00:52:57.300 that's done that many shows

00:52:58.200 was Lainey Wilson last year

00:53:00.020 did a lot of shows.

00:53:01.360 Yeah, yeah.

00:53:02.060 I mean, she was,

00:53:03.760 you know,

00:53:04.340 I saw her at the end of the year

00:53:05.180 and I was like,

00:53:05.600 man, she is gone.

00:53:06.800 She's,

00:53:07.680 it just hasn't ended,

00:53:08.980 you know?

00:53:09.260 You have to,

00:53:09.940 I think that's where you,

00:53:11.320 you know,

00:53:11.680 I think that's where

00:53:12.280 the boys and the men

00:53:13.420 are separated.

00:53:14.240 It's not about being the best.

00:53:15.660 It's not about,

00:53:17.000 it's about literally

00:53:17.900 just going and doing it.

00:53:18.960 If you can stick through it.

00:53:20.860 Yeah.

00:53:21.500 Oh yeah,

00:53:22.000 resiliency for sure.

00:53:23.420 And then I think like

00:53:24.640 even with Bishop Gunn,

00:53:25.720 they had like addiction,

00:53:27.080 they had like some addiction issues

00:53:28.760 in the bank,

00:53:29.360 like that kind of stuff

00:53:30.380 tore them,

00:53:31.060 you know?

00:53:31.360 Oh yeah,

00:53:31.880 I mean,

00:53:32.180 we've seen that.

00:53:32.920 Not with ourselves,

00:53:33.740 but it's so easy

00:53:35.000 being on the road

00:53:35.700 how you can,

00:53:36.580 I mean,

00:53:36.800 you probably see it with comedy

00:53:37.780 how you can easily

00:53:38.560 turn to those things.

00:53:39.640 Oh yeah.

00:53:40.220 It's a dark hole.

00:53:41.240 You don't want to go down.

00:53:42.340 It's ain't the 70s no more.

00:53:43.500 Yeah,

00:53:43.620 it's not the 70s anymore

00:53:44.760 and the whole sex,

00:53:46.440 drugs,

00:53:46.760 and rock and roll thing

00:53:47.540 is kind of a,

00:53:49.060 you know,

00:53:50.000 what's the word

00:53:52.120 I'm looking for?

00:53:53.740 Like a thing of the past?

00:53:55.880 It's like a stereotype.

00:53:57.180 Everybody,

00:53:58.280 from the outside looking in,

00:53:59.400 they think that's what it's like

00:54:00.300 and it's not really

00:54:01.040 like that anymore.

00:54:02.020 Yeah.

00:54:02.520 And we've always made it clear

00:54:03.520 like,

00:54:04.540 you know,

00:54:05.280 everybody has their struggles

00:54:06.460 in whatever you're going to do,

00:54:08.260 but don't let it

00:54:10.300 get in the way of

00:54:11.500 this,

00:54:12.740 you know what I mean?

00:54:13.240 If you're struggling

00:54:13.940 with alcohol,

00:54:14.740 not to say that any of us do,

00:54:16.780 but just in the sense of

00:54:18.640 if you are struggling

00:54:19.380 with something,

00:54:20.500 stay sober for an hour

00:54:21.580 and a half a night

00:54:22.160 to play the show.

00:54:23.580 And then these people

00:54:24.300 pay money

00:54:25.040 and they take their time

00:54:26.020 out of their day

00:54:26.600 or they're scheduled

00:54:27.540 to come see you

00:54:28.320 and you're going to get

00:54:29.320 on stage too messed up

00:54:30.280 to perform.

00:54:30.840 That's not cool with me

00:54:32.660 or not cool with any of us.

00:54:34.200 So that's always been

00:54:35.620 a strict rule with us,

00:54:36.520 I think.

00:54:36.960 Like we were talking earlier,

00:54:37.860 us five are so close

00:54:38.820 to each other.

00:54:39.400 We're like brothers.

00:54:40.340 When somebody slips,

00:54:41.560 a pack corrects

00:54:42.320 and we've all gotten

00:54:44.900 our ass chewed

00:54:45.520 after a show or two.

00:54:47.400 That's pretty fortunate

00:54:48.340 then that you guys

00:54:49.100 are able to have

00:54:49.600 that symbiosis

00:54:50.620 or whatever

00:54:51.160 within your group,

00:54:52.560 you know?

00:54:52.960 We want the best

00:54:53.940 for each other

00:54:54.360 and we all love

00:54:54.840 each other very much.

00:54:55.920 We all recognize

00:54:56.660 that we're doing

00:54:57.220 something bigger

00:54:57.760 than ourselves.

00:54:59.300 If you're worrying

00:55:00.260 about yourself

00:55:00.860 and what you want to do

00:55:02.540 or how you've been

00:55:03.120 done wrong,

00:55:03.660 then you're going

00:55:04.600 to find all kinds

00:55:07.020 of excuses

00:55:07.480 to get mad

00:55:08.100 or to quit

00:55:08.600 or to argue

00:55:09.620 or fight

00:55:09.980 with somebody.

00:55:10.580 But if you keep

00:55:11.840 it selfless

00:55:13.200 instead of selfish,

00:55:14.280 that's where

00:55:15.400 you can find

00:55:16.660 fulfillment

00:55:17.140 and the strength

00:55:19.860 to keep going,

00:55:20.500 I guess.

00:55:21.220 Yeah.

00:55:21.940 And I think

00:55:22.740 a part of that

00:55:23.220 was our come up

00:55:24.420 meeting some

00:55:25.640 of our heroes

00:55:26.280 and realizing

00:55:26.820 these guys

00:55:27.580 are not cool

00:55:28.840 and that's how

00:55:30.080 we don't want

00:55:30.640 to ever treat

00:55:31.440 other people

00:55:32.000 or treat

00:55:33.540 our own crew,

00:55:34.680 let alone each other.

00:55:36.440 Yeah,

00:55:36.880 just seeing that

00:55:37.420 kind of stuff

00:55:37.840 on different festivals

00:55:38.700 or different things

00:55:39.340 like that.

00:55:39.740 Yeah,

00:55:39.980 yeah.

00:55:40.320 You run into something

00:55:40.960 and we've met

00:55:41.480 some people

00:55:41.860 that you think

00:55:42.300 would be douchebags

00:55:43.060 and they're cool

00:55:43.500 as hell.

00:55:44.060 Yeah.

00:55:44.520 And that's always cool.

00:55:45.820 You know,

00:55:46.060 it's like meeting you.

00:55:46.720 You could have been

00:55:47.100 an asshole to us,

00:55:47.960 you know?

00:55:48.400 Yeah.

00:55:49.280 You kind of were,

00:55:50.040 but that's okay.

00:55:52.380 We're here,

00:55:53.040 you know?

00:55:53.340 I had to be,

00:55:54.040 I guess.

00:55:54.760 What did I do?

00:55:55.360 Something bad?

00:55:55.700 No,

00:55:56.020 that's fine.

00:55:56.520 Oh.

00:55:57.480 You wore that

00:55:58.120 Jeff Gordon jacket.

00:55:59.040 That was problem one.

00:56:00.440 That'll turn some people

00:56:01.220 off, man.

00:56:01.680 I made you take it off.

00:56:02.840 I gotta pee really fast,

00:56:04.000 guys.

00:56:04.300 You gotta pee anybody else?

00:56:05.340 I gotta pee.

00:56:05.980 I gotta pee.

00:56:07.640 You remember the first song

00:56:08.660 you ever heard?

00:56:11.020 I remember the first song,

00:56:14.280 sorry,

00:56:15.200 I'm a little out of breath

00:56:15.720 going up those stairs.

00:56:17.800 The first song

00:56:18.620 I remember singing

00:56:19.680 was a song by Tracy Bird

00:56:22.520 called We're From the Country

00:56:23.900 and We Like It That Way.

00:56:26.280 Everybody knows everybody.

00:56:29.320 Everybody calls your friend.

00:56:31.600 Yeah,

00:56:31.900 it was a good song,

00:56:32.900 huh?

00:56:33.040 Don't need an invitation.

00:56:35.880 Kick off your shoes

00:56:37.000 and come on in.

00:56:38.560 Yeah.

00:56:39.280 Know how to work

00:56:40.640 and we know how to play.

00:56:42.640 We're from the country

00:56:43.860 and we like it that way.

00:56:45.960 How old were you

00:56:46.640 when you sang?

00:56:47.640 I had to be

00:56:48.460 probably four or five years old.

00:56:50.020 And were you singing

00:56:50.660 to the family?

00:56:51.340 Were you performing

00:56:51.920 for someone

00:56:52.480 or were you just

00:56:53.000 sitting somewhere

00:56:53.540 just singing that?

00:56:55.260 I've always,

00:56:56.500 my mama told me

00:56:57.740 even before I could talk

00:57:00.100 I'd walk around

00:57:00.640 just going,

00:57:00.940 knee,

00:57:01.880 nah,

00:57:02.720 knee,

00:57:03.400 already on the vocal warm-ups.

00:57:05.020 Okay, so.

00:57:06.320 But I've always,

00:57:06.920 yeah,

00:57:07.140 just always

00:57:07.580 been a songbird,

00:57:09.040 I guess.

00:57:09.640 I remember having

00:57:10.480 the little radio

00:57:11.900 off of Toy Story

00:57:13.280 with the microphone.

00:57:14.960 Oh, yeah.

00:57:15.740 And I was just dragging

00:57:16.020 the radio around

00:57:17.780 and it took a cassette tape

00:57:19.380 and so I'd have

00:57:20.500 the Tracy Bird cassette tape

00:57:21.840 in there

00:57:22.160 and just,

00:57:23.300 everybody,

00:57:23.580 Oh, dude.

00:57:24.920 Gosh,

00:57:25.380 I just brought back

00:57:26.080 some memories.

00:57:27.720 Yeah.

00:57:28.620 Yeah,

00:57:28.780 the one I had.

00:57:29.280 That looks like Sketch

00:57:30.320 who was just on here.

00:57:32.680 Oh, my God.

00:57:33.920 Maybe that's what

00:57:34.380 you base it off of.

00:57:35.860 What's up, brother?

00:57:36.740 That's unbelievable.

00:57:39.160 Yeah,

00:57:39.580 what's up?

00:57:40.220 You got to send him one.

00:57:41.460 Oh, yeah,

00:57:41.880 we've got to send him one.

00:57:42.880 Will you write that down, Ben?

00:57:44.500 Okay.

00:57:46.460 Yeah,

00:57:47.180 what was that sound

00:57:48.040 you made again?

00:57:49.160 Nee,

00:57:49.960 nah,

00:57:51.040 nee,

00:57:51.980 nah.

00:57:53.060 It reminds me

00:57:53.980 of Squid Games,

00:57:54.800 kind of.

00:57:56.760 I did not like that show.

00:57:58.680 You didn't?

00:57:59.200 No,

00:57:59.440 it freaked me out

00:57:59.940 a little bit.

00:58:00.600 I'm a grown man.

00:58:01.860 A lot of,

00:58:02.340 yeah,

00:58:02.760 I don't,

00:58:03.160 look,

00:58:04.040 yeah,

00:58:04.880 I got some

00:58:05.600 Japanese friends

00:58:07.320 and they're prone

00:58:08.380 to violence at times,

00:58:09.560 you know?

00:58:10.340 Really?

00:58:10.640 I could see that.

00:58:11.320 Oh, they liked,

00:58:12.000 yeah,

00:58:12.280 they're really,

00:58:13.100 because they keep

00:58:14.040 a lot of their feelings in

00:58:15.260 and so the only,

00:58:16.540 they.

00:58:17.160 Well,

00:58:17.320 that's like the way

00:58:18.000 of the ninja though,

00:58:18.780 right?

00:58:19.100 Yeah,

00:58:19.860 yeah,

00:58:20.080 I guess so.

00:58:20.860 They just busted a dude

00:58:21.780 with a samurai sword

00:58:22.860 out there grilling meat.

00:58:23.920 Where was that at?

00:58:24.660 Sounds like Florida.

00:58:27.860 Samurai sword

00:58:28.540 and grilling meat.

00:58:29.800 Yeah,

00:58:30.060 this man,

00:58:30.540 man grilling

00:58:31.040 and shopping cart

00:58:31.820 used sword as skewer

00:58:32.940 arrested near Santa Monica.

00:58:34.660 Well,

00:58:34.920 he didn't try

00:58:35.340 to stab nobody.

00:58:36.300 That's what I'm saying.

00:58:37.120 This guy is,

00:58:38.160 video from the Citizen app

00:58:39.620 captured the wild scene

00:58:40.680 before 3 p.m.

00:58:42.020 on Sunday.

00:58:43.100 The man is seen

00:58:43.880 dragging a shopping cart

00:58:44.900 through a bike lane.

00:58:46.580 That looks like California.

00:58:48.500 The main compartment

00:58:50.880 of the cart

00:58:51.240 is filled with flaming wood

00:58:52.600 while the man uses

00:58:53.520 a sword as a skewer

00:58:54.360 to hold meat

00:58:54.880 over the flames.

00:58:55.900 Here's the thing,

00:58:56.600 you can't,

00:58:57.320 if you have so many people

00:58:58.780 who are without homes,

00:59:00.300 right,

00:59:00.620 they're going to start

00:59:02.100 to open up

00:59:03.260 barbacoas

00:59:05.680 or whatever this is called.

00:59:06.760 You know,

00:59:06.880 they're going to start

00:59:07.460 to open up

00:59:08.160 hair cutting.

00:59:09.100 I get my hair cut

00:59:10.100 when I'm in L.A.

00:59:10.940 by a guy

00:59:12.260 who is a street man.

00:59:15.320 A street man.

00:59:16.000 But he makes a living

00:59:16.720 cutting hair.

00:59:17.880 He makes a living

00:59:18.480 cutting hair.

00:59:19.100 This dude,

00:59:19.500 Dreamer,

00:59:19.840 he's Native American,

00:59:20.660 actually.

00:59:21.240 That right there,

00:59:22.620 that's a food truck,

00:59:23.480 a food cart,

00:59:24.260 but same concept.

00:59:25.340 It's the same concept.

00:59:26.820 And yeah,

00:59:27.360 sure,

00:59:27.700 maybe it's FDA approved,

00:59:28.880 maybe it's not.

00:59:29.480 But people,

00:59:32.440 it's still society.

00:59:33.560 They're still going

00:59:33.920 to start a civilization.

00:59:34.900 You know what I'm saying?

00:59:35.440 Like,

00:59:35.660 everybody's going

00:59:36.680 to start a civilization.

00:59:38.200 And so.

00:59:39.520 If they don't have money

00:59:40.540 to pay permits

00:59:41.360 for food trucks

00:59:42.860 or whatever else,

00:59:44.280 they're just going to.

00:59:44.600 That machete

00:59:45.080 is that man's permit.

00:59:46.140 Yeah,

00:59:46.280 they're going to resort

00:59:46.900 to whatever they can.

00:59:47.660 They're going to figure out.

00:59:48.400 And I think we got to put

00:59:49.380 more swords on the streets.

00:59:50.540 I bet that's some

00:59:51.140 of the best barbecue

00:59:51.900 you probably ever had too.

00:59:52.920 Oh.

00:59:54.900 Samurai sword?

00:59:55.860 Yeah,

00:59:56.160 Samurai,

00:59:56.500 oh.

00:59:57.300 Yeah,

00:59:57.660 Willie's Samurai Barbecue

00:59:58.980 or whatever.

00:59:59.220 What do you think

00:59:59.680 that meat is?

01:00:00.520 He probably did not

01:00:01.320 buy that at the grocery store.

01:00:02.840 Damn,

01:00:03.160 dude,

01:00:03.340 I think that's damn.

01:00:04.320 He's got some

01:00:04.940 of them Cali raccoons.

01:00:06.140 I don't know

01:00:06.420 what they got out there.

01:00:07.700 Oh,

01:00:08.120 I think that's probably

01:00:08.900 braised human,

01:00:10.000 bro.

01:00:10.320 Oh,

01:00:10.820 who knows?

01:00:12.800 You don't know

01:00:13.660 when you're getting

01:00:14.040 it out of a shopping cart.

01:00:15.060 No.

01:00:15.340 Dude,

01:00:15.600 it's look,

01:00:16.380 obviously,

01:00:16.920 and here's the thing,

01:00:17.480 a shopping cart

01:00:18.140 will make you think

01:00:19.140 that it is.

01:00:20.120 Grocery store quality.

01:00:21.580 Yep.

01:00:22.220 So really,

01:00:23.000 the guy's got a great concept.

01:00:24.240 Really,

01:00:24.580 it's a grocery store

01:00:25.260 manager quality.

01:00:26.740 Where does,

01:00:27.040 yeah,

01:00:28.040 where does some of you guys'

01:00:28.860 influence come with music?

01:00:30.200 What are you guys

01:00:31.420 listening to right now?

01:00:33.420 What am I listening to

01:00:34.520 right now?

01:00:35.000 I've been listening

01:00:35.540 to Lake Street Dive

01:00:36.440 a lot lately.

01:00:37.300 We just saw them

01:00:37.880 at Moon Crush.

01:00:38.760 Really?

01:00:39.400 They're incredible.

01:00:40.780 Lake Street Dive,

01:00:41.520 you never heard of them?

01:00:42.100 Uh-uh.

01:00:42.380 Oh,

01:00:42.540 they're incredible.

01:00:43.620 Put me on,

01:00:44.300 put me on.

01:00:45.120 Always been a huge fan

01:00:46.260 of them and seeing them

01:00:47.200 live just kind of

01:00:48.020 reignited that.

01:00:49.540 So I've just been

01:00:50.140 on a Lake Street Dive

01:00:51.420 kick for the last

01:00:52.500 few days.

01:00:54.280 Our listens.

01:00:54.780 Her vocals are just

01:00:56.360 insane.

01:00:57.840 I love that organ player,

01:00:59.620 man,

01:00:59.800 when he sings.

01:01:00.900 I mean,

01:01:01.180 they're like,

01:01:02.100 it's like the 70s,

01:01:03.720 modern day 70s music

01:01:05.060 right there.

01:01:05.540 It is incredible,

01:01:06.460 especially live.

01:01:07.560 Yeah.

01:01:08.200 Really,

01:01:08.660 really good.

01:01:09.420 Lake Street Dive.

01:01:10.600 I got obsessed

01:01:11.400 with like trying

01:01:12.000 to do vibrato

01:01:13.000 because I

01:01:13.460 can't do it.

01:01:16.300 I couldn't do it

01:01:16.900 at all,

01:01:17.280 but now I can

01:01:17.960 kind of do it.

01:01:18.920 But she was one

01:01:19.800 of the ones

01:01:20.180 that I would listen

01:01:20.900 to trying to

01:01:21.740 figure that out,

01:01:23.120 how to do that

01:01:23.600 with your voice.

01:01:25.420 Still can't do it

01:01:26.220 that well,

01:01:26.640 but I try my best.

01:01:28.400 So a singer

01:01:29.100 will learn

01:01:29.520 different tricks

01:01:30.100 from other singers

01:01:30.800 kind of,

01:01:31.140 or not tricks

01:01:31.660 or just manipulations

01:01:33.200 or ways to perform

01:01:34.720 kind of?

01:01:35.620 I just learn

01:01:36.280 by listening.

01:01:38.020 If I listen

01:01:38.660 to Lake Street Dive

01:01:41.360 or listen to Waylon

01:01:42.480 or whatever I'm

01:01:44.340 listening to

01:01:44.900 long enough,

01:01:45.800 I'll start to

01:01:46.360 kind of mimic

01:01:47.880 that on stage

01:01:48.580 a little bit.

01:01:49.420 So how I sing

01:01:50.300 at whatever show

01:01:51.960 I'm at depends

01:01:52.540 on what I've

01:01:54.160 been listening

01:01:54.540 to for the

01:01:55.000 past few days,

01:01:55.840 I guess.

01:01:57.620 Yeah,

01:01:58.080 I think there's

01:01:58.820 something about that

01:01:59.520 about being

01:02:00.280 an entertainer.

01:02:03.040 Part of you,

01:02:04.780 especially if you're

01:02:05.420 staying open to things,

01:02:06.800 you're going to be

01:02:07.340 kind of a sponge

01:02:08.080 in a way.

01:02:09.140 You may,

01:02:11.400 yeah,

01:02:11.560 if you've been

01:02:11.980 absorbing one thing,

01:02:15.140 then the next time

01:02:15.920 you perform,

01:02:16.880 there could be

01:02:17.620 some of that

01:02:18.800 just in your energy.

01:02:19.820 You want to be

01:02:21.440 kind of a conduit

01:02:22.260 for good energy.

01:02:23.420 And a lot of

01:02:24.160 creativity and music,

01:02:25.360 art is good energy

01:02:26.320 usually.

01:02:26.880 Do you see that

01:02:27.420 in comedy at all?

01:02:28.280 Yep.

01:02:28.620 If you watch too

01:02:29.480 much of one guy,

01:02:31.040 you kind of

01:02:31.680 start taking that

01:02:32.800 personality on?

01:02:33.940 Oh,

01:02:34.180 I'll watch

01:02:34.540 some Chris Rock

01:02:35.220 and I'll go out

01:02:35.720 there and be like,

01:02:36.340 here's a heaven

01:02:37.140 I can't go.

01:02:39.280 This guy loves

01:02:41.260 Chris Rock.

01:02:42.260 So yeah,

01:02:42.960 that'll happen.

01:02:44.820 Oh,

01:02:45.140 every comedian

01:02:45.680 when they started

01:02:46.260 out,

01:02:46.780 at my time,

01:02:48.240 everybody started

01:02:48.860 just like Mitch Hedberg.

01:02:50.080 Like all the

01:02:51.000 people that were

01:02:52.760 booking clubs,

01:02:53.720 all the bookers

01:02:54.340 were like,

01:02:54.940 yeah,

01:02:55.300 everybody right now

01:02:56.920 sounds like Mitch Hedberg.

01:02:57.980 It's just because

01:02:58.340 he's so popular

01:02:59.060 right now.

01:02:59.700 So I think there's

01:03:00.800 a lot of that

01:03:01.240 that happens.

01:03:02.120 That's the guy

01:03:02.820 who yells,

01:03:03.340 right?

01:03:04.000 He would be like,

01:03:04.640 no,

01:03:04.840 that was...

01:03:05.940 Who am I thinking of?

01:03:07.580 Oh,

01:03:07.760 you're thinking of...

01:03:08.980 He died a long time ago.

01:03:10.600 Yep.

01:03:10.980 You're thinking of

01:03:12.580 Sam...

01:03:15.180 I like this game.

01:03:16.180 No,

01:03:16.280 it's fun.

01:03:17.200 Sam Kennison.

01:03:19.460 Yeah,

01:03:19.940 Kennison.

01:03:20.520 Sam Kennison.

01:03:21.600 That guy was hilarious too.

01:03:22.800 Well,

01:03:22.980 he had a crazy story

01:03:24.340 with this guy,

01:03:24.980 Carl Lebov.

01:03:26.360 Can you bring this up?

01:03:29.660 So,

01:03:30.260 Carl Lebov,

01:03:32.900 RIP to him too.

01:03:34.220 He passed away.

01:03:34.960 Really funny,

01:03:35.920 sweet guy.

01:03:37.160 I never knew Sam

01:03:38.460 or met him.

01:03:40.440 But they had a...

01:03:41.640 One of them had a daughter.

01:03:43.000 Can you bring it up?

01:03:44.120 Let me see.

01:03:45.080 Let me see.

01:03:46.420 The late comedian,

01:03:47.540 Sam Kennison,

01:03:48.260 left his friend

01:03:48.960 and fellow comedian

01:03:49.760 quite a belated surprise.

01:03:51.700 Carl Lebov says

01:03:52.940 that Sam was the real father

01:03:54.580 of the daughter

01:03:55.240 he thought was his.

01:03:56.300 Oh, no.

01:03:56.860 Whoa.

01:03:57.700 We heard about it

01:03:58.520 on the Joy Bahar show

01:03:59.480 where Lebov said

01:04:00.140 he found out

01:04:00.700 that Sam was the father

01:04:01.620 after Sam died.

01:04:03.680 So, yeah,

01:04:04.400 Carl had raised her

01:04:05.180 her whole life

01:04:05.980 and then found out

01:04:06.880 that Sam was the father.

01:04:09.200 I was devastated.

01:04:09.520 This is with his wife?

01:04:10.700 Yeah.

01:04:11.280 So, I think

01:04:11.840 there was a rumor

01:04:12.720 that the child was conceived

01:04:13.760 while he was on stage

01:04:15.060 one time.

01:04:15.640 Wow.

01:04:17.040 That is some disrespect.

01:04:18.780 Yeah.

01:04:19.300 I mean,

01:04:19.560 there's craft services

01:04:20.420 and then there's craft services.

01:04:22.780 I was devastated,

01:04:23.940 Carl said.

01:04:24.340 We're talking about

01:04:25.160 at the same time

01:04:26.520 a 14-year friendship

01:04:27.480 we started out together

01:04:28.540 so we had survived

01:04:29.380 living on the streets.

01:04:30.860 You know what it's like

01:04:31.440 to start on comedy?

01:04:32.220 I mean,

01:04:32.540 we stole fruit

01:04:33.240 from the bars at night

01:04:34.140 just to eat

01:04:34.620 and slept in my car

01:04:35.520 and we survived

01:04:36.620 for a very long time

01:04:37.900 and then with the

01:04:39.080 Rodney Dangerfield special

01:04:40.820 it changed our lives

01:04:41.960 and of course

01:04:42.940 Sam became huge

01:04:43.840 and I was the head writer

01:04:44.700 and his best friend.

01:04:45.740 We never lived

01:04:46.600 more than a mile apart.

01:04:48.040 Wow.

01:04:48.640 Then he slept with his wife.

01:04:49.660 Yep.

01:04:49.980 And he was sleeping

01:04:50.520 with his wife.

01:04:51.180 That's crazy.

01:04:51.740 Yeah,

01:04:51.880 what does it say happened?

01:04:52.840 You can say best friend

01:04:53.920 and do that.

01:04:54.660 I know.

01:04:55.040 That's what's wild.

01:04:57.280 So,

01:04:57.720 I called my ex

01:04:58.420 to explain to her

01:04:59.160 that I was having

01:04:59.700 a tough time

01:05:00.260 and that's when she told me

01:05:01.100 that Sam

01:05:01.600 had fathered my child.

01:05:03.060 Wow.

01:05:03.940 Huh.

01:05:04.620 Yeah.

01:05:07.220 That's crazy.

01:05:08.320 Carl Leboe

01:05:08.720 had not been able

01:05:09.460 to legally establish

01:05:10.420 that Sam Kinnison

01:05:11.220 was the child's father

01:05:12.220 in court

01:05:12.680 because all the blood tests

01:05:13.820 proved that she was

01:05:15.080 related to the Kinnison family.

01:05:17.200 Now with the DNA test

01:05:18.240 he has definitive proof

01:05:19.940 that Sam was the father.

01:05:21.160 Wow,

01:05:21.520 that had to be so wild.

01:05:22.540 I wonder,

01:05:23.060 yeah,

01:05:23.300 I wonder what his thoughts

01:05:24.200 were.

01:05:24.480 It's like,

01:05:24.720 because his best friend

01:05:25.700 died

01:05:27.100 and so

01:05:28.400 that's normally something

01:05:30.380 you would be mad about,

01:05:32.060 you know,

01:05:32.340 him sleeping with your wife

01:05:33.160 but at the same time

01:05:33.820 it's like he left

01:05:34.500 you a little part of himself

01:05:36.060 to raise.

01:05:37.860 Yeah.

01:05:38.000 I don't know.

01:05:38.780 It's almost a story

01:05:39.460 out of the Bible almost

01:05:40.280 it seems like,

01:05:41.000 you know,

01:05:41.280 in a way.

01:05:42.940 Yeah.

01:05:43.680 In a way of like,

01:05:44.420 you know,

01:05:44.720 like,

01:05:45.280 maybe not out of the Bible

01:05:46.080 but it's like one of those

01:05:46.740 Aesop's fables or something

01:05:48.000 something where you like

01:05:48.780 learn like a lesson

01:05:49.800 learning story

01:05:50.440 because that'd be crazy

01:05:51.760 you would hate him

01:05:52.740 you'd be angry at the wife

01:05:55.180 but then you'd also have

01:05:56.880 something that you

01:05:57.440 cared about for so long.

01:06:00.460 So did he didn't learn

01:06:01.620 that until the death?

01:06:03.840 Right.

01:06:04.120 He didn't learn it

01:06:04.340 until like

01:06:04.980 way after the death.

01:06:06.420 Yeah,

01:06:06.660 I think till the

01:06:07.340 yeah,

01:06:07.680 I think the daughter

01:06:08.360 Wow.

01:06:09.600 You have to look at that

01:06:10.320 child a little different too

01:06:11.260 that's not your blood anymore.

01:06:13.160 I know,

01:06:13.520 I wonder if that starts

01:06:14.240 to happen inside of you.

01:06:15.960 But you also had that

01:06:16.960 connection like an

01:06:17.620 adopted child.

01:06:18.520 Right.

01:06:18.880 And that probably

01:06:19.320 wouldn't disappear I think.

01:06:20.860 I've seen mixed emotions

01:06:22.020 from different videos

01:06:24.080 like some men are like

01:06:24.940 it doesn't matter

01:06:25.420 that's my kid

01:06:25.960 I don't care

01:06:26.440 and then some men are like

01:06:27.200 well that's not my kid anymore.

01:06:28.480 I don't know how I'd feel

01:06:29.300 in that situation.

01:06:30.400 Yeah.

01:06:30.660 Yeah,

01:06:30.960 one guy I saw was playing

01:06:32.140 hit the road jack

01:06:33.220 on his phone

01:06:33.920 after he found out.

01:06:34.800 Really?

01:06:35.000 So he was like

01:06:35.700 pretty excited,

01:06:36.620 yeah.

01:06:36.840 Definitely depends on the man

01:06:37.960 I guess.

01:06:38.700 I think it was out of here.

01:06:42.500 Yeah,

01:06:43.020 what else have I been

01:06:43.580 listening to?

01:06:44.820 Yeah,

01:06:45.080 that and comedy.

01:06:45.880 Steven Wilson Jr.

01:06:47.160 I listened to.

01:06:49.300 Eddie Ninevold,

01:06:50.600 I listened to him.

01:06:51.080 Yeah,

01:06:51.100 we got him

01:06:51.660 opening for us

01:06:52.740 at a show.

01:06:53.440 Yeah,

01:06:53.720 we'll do.

01:06:54.220 Eddie Ninevold.

01:06:55.560 Yeah,

01:06:56.000 bro,

01:06:56.260 they're vibey,

01:06:57.300 man.

01:06:57.520 Oh yeah,

01:06:57.960 we got a band

01:07:02.260 called The Moss

01:07:02.820 opening for us

01:07:03.740 on the West Coast.

01:07:04.580 They're out of,

01:07:05.000 I think they're out of Salt Lake.

01:07:06.440 They're cool.

01:07:06.980 The Moss?

01:07:07.320 It's a little more

01:07:08.240 indie rock,

01:07:09.040 yeah.

01:07:09.880 Not so much.

01:07:11.100 I don't know if you're into that.

01:07:12.120 You're West Coast,

01:07:12.880 aren't you?

01:07:13.380 Yeah,

01:07:13.580 I would listen to some,

01:07:14.400 I would listen to anything.

01:07:15.540 A lot of times

01:07:16.100 I need people to tell me

01:07:16.980 what to listen to.

01:07:18.260 A good one that

01:07:19.120 they're no longer a band anymore.

01:07:21.100 Yeah,

01:07:21.240 The Moss.

01:07:21.980 Yeah.

01:07:23.220 J.

01:07:23.540 Roddy Walston and the Business.

01:07:24.440 Oh yeah,

01:07:25.240 that's some groovy stuff too.

01:07:27.360 That's like some good

01:07:28.240 rock and roll music.

01:07:29.660 Yeah.

01:07:30.120 Yeah,

01:07:30.420 all the albums they put out,

01:07:32.080 did they put out two or three?

01:07:34.000 Oh,

01:07:34.320 I couldn't tell you.

01:07:35.100 That was,

01:07:35.820 you introduced them to me.

01:07:38.540 J. Roddy Walston

01:07:39.640 and the Business,

01:07:40.520 baby,

01:07:40.700 I like that.

01:07:41.740 Yeah,

01:07:41.840 that's some cool stuff.

01:07:43.320 I don't know if you ever

01:07:43.960 listen to Alabama Shakes.

01:07:45.320 Yeah,

01:07:45.860 I hate that they're not a band anymore.

01:07:47.240 That's one that we looked up to.

01:07:48.720 What happened to them?

01:07:50.020 Well,

01:07:50.340 I think there's some,

01:07:51.100 we read some dark stuff

01:07:52.600 about one of the members

01:07:53.640 in the band

01:07:54.180 and I think that probably

01:07:54.960 led to the downfall.

01:07:56.160 I don't know how true that was though.

01:07:58.200 Yeah,

01:07:58.380 we don't know if true,

01:07:58.980 but I think they were a band

01:08:00.100 like we are

01:08:00.600 that started together equally.

01:08:02.620 You know,

01:08:02.800 like a lot of bands nowadays

01:08:03.880 are built around a star

01:08:06.160 or a singer

01:08:06.880 and I think they were one

01:08:08.360 that started together

01:08:09.140 and ended up breaking up together.

01:08:10.400 More of a constellation.

01:08:11.420 Mm-hmm.

01:08:11.980 Yeah.

01:08:12.540 Wow.

01:08:14.040 Yeah,

01:08:14.400 what happened?

01:08:14.840 In 2018,

01:08:15.680 the band went on hiatus

01:08:16.860 due to Howard's focus

01:08:18.180 on her solo project,

01:08:19.940 Jamie.

01:08:20.640 Yeah,

01:08:20.900 she's done a bunch of stuff

01:08:21.820 after that.

01:08:22.400 Which led to a solo tour

01:08:23.360 in 2019,

01:08:24.080 Howard released her second

01:08:24.920 solo album in 2024.

01:08:27.340 In June 2020,

01:08:28.560 guitarist Heath Fogg

01:08:29.600 released his debut

01:08:30.620 solo project

01:08:31.860 under the name Sun.

01:08:33.060 Yeah,

01:08:33.340 I'm not familiar

01:08:33.960 with any of that,

01:08:34.620 but Alabama Shakes

01:08:35.440 was incredible.

01:08:36.200 And was that all

01:08:36.660 the members of Alabama Shakes?

01:08:38.000 What's that?

01:08:38.560 Those people right there?

01:08:39.660 Some of them.

01:08:40.440 Okay.

01:08:40.700 That's part of the band.

01:08:41.520 So some of them,

01:08:42.140 they obviously just,

01:08:42.900 some of them went

01:08:43.240 their own separate ways.

01:08:43.960 Something must have happened

01:08:44.680 and then went their own separate ways.

01:08:45.100 Yeah,

01:08:45.180 or she wanted to do

01:08:45.920 her solo stuff,

01:08:46.740 which is...

01:08:47.360 That sounds like it.

01:08:48.540 Man,

01:08:48.960 that's the scary part,

01:08:49.940 you know?

01:08:50.460 Well,

01:08:50.720 that's what's interesting

01:08:51.320 about the ego.

01:08:52.300 The ego,

01:08:53.040 you don't know

01:08:53.540 how it's going to grow.

01:08:54.400 It grows like a moss,

01:08:55.600 man.

01:08:56.280 I could see myself

01:08:58.200 doing solo stuff one day,

01:08:59.620 but I'm not going to

01:09:01.080 quit Red Clay Strays,

01:09:02.380 you know what I mean?

01:09:03.360 Yeah,

01:09:03.780 hers was more of a quit.

01:09:05.300 Yeah.

01:09:05.560 Never came back to it.

01:09:06.540 Like that band

01:09:07.060 Need to Breathe,

01:09:08.280 you know who I'm talking about?

01:09:09.960 That's another one

01:09:10.640 to listen to.

01:09:11.160 Ben knows.

01:09:11.520 Their lead singer

01:09:14.520 does a project

01:09:15.560 called Wilder Woods

01:09:16.540 and he goes

01:09:18.220 and does Wilder Woods stuff

01:09:19.280 and he still does

01:09:19.860 Need to Breathe stuff.

01:09:21.700 This is just

01:09:22.340 if I ever get

01:09:22.980 extra time on my hands

01:09:24.800 and just want to

01:09:25.240 start other projects,

01:09:25.920 I can see myself doing it,

01:09:27.320 but definitely wouldn't

01:09:29.040 Need to Breathe.

01:09:30.080 Yeah,

01:09:30.340 they're great.

01:09:31.740 Brandon actually

01:09:32.460 showed me them too.

01:09:33.300 That's,

01:09:34.080 I would say,

01:09:34.660 have a pretty similar,

01:09:36.780 we have a similar sound

01:09:37.720 to them,

01:09:38.080 I would say.

01:09:38.720 I grew up listening

01:09:40.180 to them.

01:09:40.660 That's definitely

01:09:41.700 somebody that I

01:09:42.420 started trying to mimic

01:09:44.400 like learning how to sing.

01:09:46.400 You've got a very

01:09:47.020 powerful,

01:09:48.380 loud voice

01:09:49.480 and that's

01:09:50.140 how I started singing

01:09:51.920 everything.

01:09:52.340 It was very powerful

01:09:52.880 and very loud

01:09:53.600 and then

01:09:54.760 getting into,

01:09:57.180 I guess,

01:09:57.700 diving deeper into it,

01:09:58.800 starting to learn

01:09:59.400 technique and

01:10:00.260 how to use your voice

01:10:01.500 and stuff

01:10:01.800 and then I wanted to learn

01:10:02.480 how to sing like

01:10:03.800 opera singers

01:10:04.620 with vibrato and stuff

01:10:05.740 so

01:10:06.020 it just depends on

01:10:07.880 who I'm listening to.

01:10:09.480 And would you sing,

01:10:11.380 so after you was

01:10:12.080 rattling around the house

01:10:13.520 mimicking and learning

01:10:15.540 some,

01:10:16.540 you know,

01:10:17.000 and running your pipes,

01:10:19.520 you know,

01:10:19.860 like,

01:10:20.360 did you start to sing

01:10:21.260 in church

01:10:21.740 or what was that like?

01:10:22.720 Like,

01:10:22.900 where'd you sing

01:10:23.460 in Kanye?

01:10:24.760 Yeah,

01:10:24.980 I started singing.

01:10:25.580 How'd you start to sing?

01:10:26.360 Yeah,

01:10:26.520 where'd you start singing at?

01:10:28.060 Oh,

01:10:28.480 yeah,

01:10:28.640 that was the first place

01:10:29.800 I ever sang in front of a crowd

01:10:30.900 was at church.

01:10:31.660 Yeah.

01:10:32.200 Yeah,

01:10:32.400 I started playing drums

01:10:33.340 in church

01:10:33.860 when I was like 12.

01:10:36.000 It was a dangerous move usually.

01:10:37.780 Did they put you

01:10:38.540 in that little shed

01:10:39.440 or whatever

01:10:39.820 behind that thing?

01:10:40.520 No,

01:10:40.720 I hate those things.

01:10:41.540 I do too.

01:10:41.920 Yeah,

01:10:42.080 usually the church

01:10:42.880 always puts that guy

01:10:43.760 back there

01:10:44.240 behind that little aquarium.

01:10:45.360 It depends on the church

01:10:46.080 you go to.

01:10:46.820 Now,

01:10:47.140 the ones that,

01:10:47.960 you know,

01:10:48.300 that Brandon was in,

01:10:49.100 they're in there joking.

01:10:50.380 It's not contemporary.

01:10:51.760 It's a...

01:10:53.020 All the churches

01:10:54.020 are moving that way

01:10:54.840 where they want to

01:10:56.080 shield everything

01:10:57.260 and have all of the

01:10:58.720 actual sounds

01:10:59.520 of the instruments

01:11:00.040 coming through the PA system

01:11:01.240 and it's like,

01:11:01.780 I want to feel

01:11:02.980 the sound waves,

01:11:03.780 man.

01:11:03.860 I want to go out,

01:11:05.440 just let the drummer play,

01:11:06.740 let the guitar player play.

01:11:07.940 Oh,

01:11:08.160 I want to get hit

01:11:08.580 by a damn drumstick

01:11:09.400 in there.

01:11:09.920 Yeah.

01:11:10.780 That's how you get into it.

01:11:11.960 I actually had to go to,

01:11:13.640 it was Brandon

01:11:14.240 was playing in the church

01:11:15.600 and John,

01:11:17.060 our drummer,

01:11:17.780 John was playing drums

01:11:18.580 in the church.

01:11:19.000 This was probably

01:11:19.920 four or five years ago

01:11:21.060 and I grew up

01:11:21.540 in a Catholic church

01:11:22.280 and it's,

01:11:23.240 you know,

01:11:23.440 you walk in with a tie on

01:11:25.080 and the organ's playing

01:11:26.200 and the congregation's singing

01:11:28.300 and I come in there

01:11:28.960 and they are in there

01:11:29.800 throwing down.

01:11:31.260 At his church?

01:11:31.800 I thought it was

01:11:32.140 a WWE match.

01:11:33.460 Oh yeah.

01:11:34.040 I had to bring

01:11:34.600 John's snare drum.

01:11:35.440 He asked me to bring

01:11:35.920 his drum

01:11:36.240 and I'm like,

01:11:36.800 in shorts,

01:11:37.420 I didn't know

01:11:37.800 what I was coming to.

01:11:39.520 It's such a,

01:11:40.280 it's a wild

01:11:41.400 different environment

01:11:42.420 but I mean,

01:11:43.680 you feel the Holy Spirit

01:11:44.440 moving in a bunch

01:11:45.140 of different ways.

01:11:45.660 So there's a lot

01:11:46.120 of energy in there.

01:11:46.880 Oh yeah.

01:11:47.100 That's why I've always

01:11:47.740 like Pentecostal.

01:11:49.620 Pentecostal?

01:11:50.080 Yeah.

01:11:50.420 Yeah, baby.

01:11:50.960 I'm more non-nominational

01:11:52.200 because I don't really,

01:11:53.700 the Baptists,

01:11:54.460 the Pentecostal,

01:11:55.080 the Catholics,

01:11:55.640 this is all preference

01:11:56.680 based in my opinion.

01:11:57.700 But I do like

01:11:59.080 a Pentecostal church

01:12:00.120 because I zone out

01:12:02.740 so easily

01:12:03.280 and I'll lose attention

01:12:04.420 and if I got somebody

01:12:05.420 up there screaming at me

01:12:07.380 and stomping his feet

01:12:08.560 and getting into it

01:12:09.480 like a performance

01:12:10.460 pretty much,

01:12:11.200 it keeps my attention.

01:12:12.980 I love that.

01:12:13.760 And my pastor,

01:12:14.660 he was like 72 at the time.

01:12:16.000 He'd be running

01:12:16.400 across the pews,

01:12:17.380 running over the top of them

01:12:18.560 and just feeling it, man.

01:12:21.720 Wow.

01:12:22.060 It's just something

01:12:22.780 that keeps your attention

01:12:23.580 the whole time.

01:12:25.020 Yeah, do you think

01:12:25.500 that's had an effect

01:12:26.220 on how you perform kind of?

01:12:28.680 Yeah, I'd say so.

01:12:29.680 Now, the church

01:12:30.360 he's talking about

01:12:31.140 is where I was going

01:12:32.320 as an adult.

01:12:32.920 The church I grew up in

01:12:33.820 was more of a,

01:12:34.900 still a Pentecostal church

01:12:36.040 but it was more

01:12:36.580 of a smaller building

01:12:38.900 and a lot of older people

01:12:40.260 were there

01:12:40.660 and just the old country,

01:12:44.620 southern country church,

01:12:45.540 I guess.

01:12:45.980 Yeah.

01:12:46.380 It wasn't a lot of energy

01:12:47.280 until I started

01:12:48.740 playing drums there.

01:12:50.220 Brandon brought

01:12:50.820 the Holy Spirit back in there.

01:12:52.180 Did that change the vibe

01:12:53.180 in there a little?

01:12:53.760 Yeah, it was literally

01:12:54.200 just, at the time

01:12:55.260 it was literally

01:12:55.720 just the pastor

01:12:56.740 with no amp or anything

01:12:59.320 just playing his acoustics

01:13:00.460 singing hymnals

01:13:01.540 and then I started

01:13:03.340 playing drums

01:13:04.020 and then they had

01:13:05.280 a keyboard player

01:13:06.000 and that's,

01:13:07.920 I guess I started

01:13:08.560 doing that around

01:13:09.140 when I was like 12

01:13:10.040 and played in there

01:13:12.860 all the way up

01:13:13.300 through high school

01:13:13.880 before I started

01:13:15.740 going on the road

01:13:16.420 and being gone

01:13:17.380 all the time.

01:13:19.500 Yeah, man.

01:13:20.400 That church,

01:13:20.960 especially if you've got

01:13:21.500 a church that's got

01:13:22.080 a feeling in it,

01:13:22.960 that's why I remember

01:13:24.260 the first time

01:13:24.720 I went to black churches,

01:13:25.880 man, them things

01:13:26.600 were different.

01:13:28.040 I've been looking

01:13:28.520 for a good black church

01:13:29.360 or something.

01:13:29.800 I mean, I see a lot

01:13:30.920 of similarity

01:13:31.600 in the church

01:13:32.740 like Brandon's talking about.

01:13:33.740 They're in there

01:13:34.040 getting down,

01:13:35.140 the preacher's up there

01:13:36.420 really preaching

01:13:37.700 and throwing energy

01:13:38.460 into it.

01:13:39.100 Yeah.

01:13:39.320 The music's bumping

01:13:41.020 and jiving.

01:13:41.940 Oh, yeah.

01:13:42.680 Yeah, that's what

01:13:43.440 they do.

01:13:44.440 Yeah, I love that

01:13:45.500 because there's definitely

01:13:46.960 something.

01:13:47.960 I mean, even if you look

01:13:49.280 at Tony Robbins,

01:13:50.100 he jumps on his trampoline

01:13:52.120 before he goes on stage.

01:13:53.600 Like there's something.

01:13:54.800 Get that adrenaline going.

01:13:55.940 Yeah, to get just his like,

01:13:57.960 I think he says it's to get

01:13:59.040 like the lymph in his body,

01:14:00.660 like basically just to get the,

01:14:02.180 it's like shaking

01:14:03.020 the snow globe, baby.

01:14:03.980 You know what I'm saying?

01:14:04.780 Yeah.

01:14:05.300 You want some weather

01:14:06.780 or you just want nothing,

01:14:07.980 you know?

01:14:08.520 So you got to start

01:14:09.860 your own weather

01:14:10.520 a lot of times, you know?

01:14:11.780 Hop on that trampoline.

01:14:13.180 And a lot of times

01:14:13.780 the Holy Spirit or whatever,

01:14:16.120 that feeling you get,

01:14:17.300 I feel that a lot on stage

01:14:18.680 and that's what I project

01:14:21.280 a lot of times, singing.

01:14:22.620 And just to see that

01:14:23.780 in a pastor,

01:14:25.220 you know,

01:14:25.520 feeling that passion

01:14:26.460 to make him raise his voice

01:14:28.020 or to make him stomp his foot.

01:14:29.360 Yeah.

01:14:29.640 You know, he's up there

01:14:31.280 in the moment.

01:14:32.400 He's feeling it

01:14:33.020 and that just keeps you

01:14:34.500 drawn in the whole time.

01:14:35.980 Yeah.

01:14:37.060 Yeah, man.

01:14:37.660 I need to find some good churches

01:14:38.920 that have stuff like that.

01:14:40.440 I thought of like-

01:14:41.140 That's the South, I think,

01:14:42.360 and just in general

01:14:43.980 with churches.

01:14:45.120 I would love to one day

01:14:46.320 maybe end up in a road like that.

01:14:49.020 There's some moments on stage

01:14:50.460 where I feel a little bit

01:14:51.240 like a pastor.

01:14:51.980 Is that weird to say that?

01:14:52.860 Well, I mean,

01:14:53.300 you're up there

01:14:53.760 with a microphone.

01:14:54.460 I wouldn't say so.

01:14:55.380 Yeah, yeah.

01:14:55.820 I don't feel like in the sense

01:14:56.820 that I'm like some-

01:14:58.300 Like a spiritual leader.

01:14:59.600 Right, no.

01:15:00.780 But I do feel that in a sense like,

01:15:02.740 oh, I wonder if there's part of me

01:15:04.740 that has this calling a little bit.

01:15:06.520 That's what it is.

01:15:07.840 Yeah.

01:15:07.960 It's like a little bit

01:15:08.760 of energy goes through me

01:15:09.840 and like,

01:15:10.700 it's even a moment

01:15:11.300 when I'm talking about God

01:15:12.600 in this one bit

01:15:13.660 and I'm like,

01:15:14.620 I wonder if,

01:15:15.780 why does this bit

01:15:16.580 stand out to me so much?

01:15:18.460 You know,

01:15:18.720 or I wonder if-

01:15:19.440 That could be the Holy Spirit

01:15:20.360 talking to you.

01:15:21.040 Yeah.

01:15:21.540 At least whispering.

01:15:22.560 At least whispering.

01:15:23.480 I think God gives you a platform

01:15:25.000 and it's a constant trade-off.

01:15:27.780 God raises you up

01:15:29.300 and gives you a platform

01:15:30.680 and then you turn around

01:15:31.480 and give it back to God

01:15:32.320 and raise him up

01:15:33.100 and then he raises you up

01:15:34.420 and that's just the way

01:15:35.660 I've always looked at it.

01:15:37.380 God gives you talents.

01:15:39.920 He gives you drives to do things.

01:15:42.880 He gives you a-

01:15:43.700 and then gives you a platform

01:15:44.660 and you can either make it

01:15:47.160 about yourself

01:15:47.780 or turn around

01:15:48.780 and give the glory back to God

01:15:50.260 and it's just that constant trade-off

01:15:53.560 that's always going on.

01:15:55.900 Wow.

01:15:56.260 I never really-

01:15:56.760 Yeah,

01:15:56.940 that's a great way to say that, man.

01:15:59.280 Like, yeah,

01:16:00.000 it's like volleying with tennis kind of.

01:16:02.360 It's like love, love, love, love, you know?

01:16:04.960 Yeah.

01:16:05.780 Huh.

01:16:06.800 That's fascinating, man.

01:16:07.940 Do you have a pretty good faith?

01:16:09.840 And is it just

01:16:11.000 that has a pretty strong faith, Brandon?

01:16:12.640 Does a lot of your band members

01:16:13.920 or is it a church-going group?

01:16:16.480 We're definitely not a church-going group,

01:16:18.320 but yeah, we're all pretty faith-based.

01:16:20.080 Yeah, especially the five core of it.

01:16:23.160 We all come from different

01:16:24.220 religious backgrounds with it too.

01:16:25.820 Like I said,

01:16:26.160 I'm Catholic, Drew's Methodist.

01:16:29.180 Brandon grew up Pentecostal.

01:16:31.060 John, I don't know where he came from.

01:16:32.720 Southern Baptist.

01:16:33.360 Southern Baptist, yeah.

01:16:34.220 Wow, yeah.

01:16:34.900 So we actually, I mean,

01:16:35.880 we've had a lot of late-

01:16:36.540 Through the portal then.

01:16:37.580 Yeah.

01:16:38.240 Yeah.

01:16:38.880 And it's like none of us are fighting

01:16:42.140 for to live like a Baptist

01:16:44.380 or to live like a Catholic.

01:16:45.400 No, no, no.

01:16:45.440 Yeah.

01:16:45.860 It's just we all grew up that way.

01:16:47.740 We have some great conversations, though.

01:16:49.460 The goal is to do

01:16:50.460 what God put you here to do, you know?

01:16:51.940 That goes back to not making it about yourself.

01:16:55.080 It's something bigger is going on

01:16:56.420 than just yourself.

01:16:58.660 And so I think that's another big reason

01:17:01.860 why we haven't broken up or anything,

01:17:04.400 even when we do disagree

01:17:05.460 or get in fights or whatever.

01:17:08.260 The goal doesn't change.

01:17:10.200 There's still something bigger going on.

01:17:12.040 Yeah.

01:17:12.600 But to get everybody to believe that,

01:17:15.100 that's hard to do, you know?

01:17:16.540 Because some people can believe something,

01:17:18.380 you know?

01:17:18.640 And two out of five people sometimes

01:17:20.660 will be like, yes, this is how I believe

01:17:22.920 and this is how I'm going to behave

01:17:24.780 based on that belief

01:17:26.020 that there is something bigger than us going on.

01:17:28.820 Yeah.

01:17:29.280 But to really get all five,

01:17:30.640 that's pretty miraculous.

01:17:33.600 Yeah.

01:17:34.960 You know?

01:17:35.620 And it's not like,

01:17:36.660 I mean, like even our whole road crew

01:17:38.640 are built of,

01:17:39.640 you got Christians,

01:17:40.460 we got atheists.

01:17:42.340 It's just like we have a common goal

01:17:44.840 and it could be something different

01:17:45.940 for that other guy,

01:17:46.740 but we know it's something bigger than ourselves.

01:17:49.460 Yeah.

01:17:50.080 And I know if somebody doesn't believe,

01:17:51.720 it's not my job to save them.

01:17:53.160 You know what I mean?

01:17:53.940 I'm not going to,

01:17:55.400 I'm not out trying to preach to anybody

01:17:57.640 or convert anybody or anything like that.

01:18:00.260 I'm simply just singing songs

01:18:02.240 and if you like it,

01:18:03.660 if you like the message

01:18:04.360 and if you like what we do,

01:18:05.620 then listen.

01:18:06.140 I don't care what you believe

01:18:07.120 or anything like that.

01:18:08.120 Yeah.

01:18:08.420 Oh, I'm not the Lord's EMT.

01:18:09.900 That's what I say.

01:18:10.580 Yeah.

01:18:10.820 Yeah.

01:18:11.440 You know what I'm saying?

01:18:12.380 Best thing you can do is pray for them, man.

01:18:13.720 That's power in prayer.

01:18:14.700 Yeah.

01:18:15.380 I'll follow the ambulance,

01:18:16.580 but I ain't the Lord's EMT.

01:18:17.860 You get right behind

01:18:18.540 and get through traffic.

01:18:19.400 I used to do that when I was doing that.

01:18:21.200 I'd tuck behind that thing.

01:18:22.740 Yeah.

01:18:23.220 I really used the Lord

01:18:24.020 to skirt through traffic.

01:18:25.200 Yeah.

01:18:25.400 He's lead blocking for me

01:18:26.680 right through rush hour.

01:18:29.900 Amen, bro.

01:18:31.240 I used to love to try to look

01:18:32.200 in that back window

01:18:32.920 and see what they're doing in there.

01:18:34.040 Oh, yeah.

01:18:34.680 They should put on the outside

01:18:36.200 what's going on.

01:18:37.380 Oh, well,

01:18:37.660 I like how they leave the lights on

01:18:39.020 and you can see them

01:18:39.580 and they're working on somebody.

01:18:40.780 Yeah.

01:18:40.920 It's almost like

01:18:41.480 It's kind of eerie though

01:18:42.960 when you see an ambulance

01:18:43.800 with lights but no sirens.

01:18:45.240 Like, oh, that guy's dead in there.

01:18:46.380 More than likely.

01:18:47.160 Let's just drive him to the hospital.

01:18:48.260 Well, it's almost like

01:18:49.040 do they say

01:18:49.560 is it cheaper not to do the sirens?

01:18:51.360 I wonder at that point

01:18:52.500 it's like, oh, this guy's dead

01:18:53.660 or just run up the bill.

01:18:54.860 This guy's dead.

01:18:55.620 Yeah.

01:18:55.820 Like, does that siren cost you a little extra?

01:18:57.880 Do the horns.

01:18:58.800 You go the whole thing.

01:18:59.720 They're going to take you.

01:19:00.800 You ain't got no insurance.

01:19:01.960 You're sitting in traffic.

01:19:03.040 We'll get you there, buddy.

01:19:03.940 But you're going to save about $500.

01:19:05.580 They should have a second level

01:19:07.220 of an ambulance

01:19:07.860 for people that don't want to pay

01:19:10.520 the high premiums

01:19:12.240 of regular ambulances.

01:19:13.520 Because how much does it cost

01:19:14.760 for an ambulance to come get you?

01:19:16.560 Oh, you already had it, dude.

01:19:17.500 With insurance,

01:19:18.220 the average out-of-pocket cost

01:19:19.340 for an ambulance ride is $450.

01:19:21.040 So that's like an Uber Black

01:19:22.460 from probably...

01:19:23.620 Across town at least.

01:19:24.980 Oh, yeah.

01:19:25.720 You could probably get

01:19:26.880 from Lebanon to here.

01:19:28.140 $450 Black, maybe?

01:19:29.800 That's true.

01:19:30.600 I don't know.

01:19:31.200 That's a decent ride.

01:19:32.060 That's about a...

01:19:32.960 You might be able to get

01:19:33.620 to Chattanooga in a regular Uber.

01:19:35.760 In a regular Uber, yeah.

01:19:37.680 That's a long ride.

01:19:38.780 Yeah, they should have

01:19:39.340 that secondary market.

01:19:41.000 Like, hey, I don't know.

01:19:42.780 I'm hurt.

01:19:44.360 I don't...

01:19:44.680 You know, I'm not going to die.

01:19:46.560 Get me over...

01:19:47.220 You know what I'm saying?

01:19:48.020 Like, get maybe a thing

01:19:48.860 of Narcan in the door.

01:19:50.840 I see if, like, Uber

01:19:51.580 could do something for you.

01:19:53.100 Uber Emergency.

01:19:54.240 Uber Emergency.

01:19:54.880 Uber E.

01:19:55.660 Yeah, Uber E, yeah.

01:19:56.780 Uber E.

01:19:57.200 It's a little more expensive.

01:19:58.340 They'll drive like a maniac.

01:19:59.480 You maybe get a little

01:20:00.120 yellow light or something.

01:20:01.420 Yeah, yeah.

01:20:01.900 Nothing crazy.

01:20:02.820 Just something that's like

01:20:03.480 if somebody who delivers mail

01:20:04.840 in a rural community,

01:20:05.720 they would put that little

01:20:06.640 orange item on top of the car.

01:20:08.060 They got the minivan.

01:20:09.240 You ever seen them

01:20:09.800 left-handed drive minivans?

01:20:11.780 Stick you with something?

01:20:13.160 Dude, my mom would

01:20:14.040 deliver newspapers,

01:20:15.300 so she would have

01:20:16.180 that one arm, boy,

01:20:17.420 it was just a...

01:20:17.840 It was slinging on.

01:20:18.520 Oh, dog.

01:20:19.700 That thing would...

01:20:20.520 Was she on a left-hand drive, too?

01:20:22.020 It'd play for the Mets, dude.

01:20:23.440 Nah, she'd keep that window down.

01:20:24.900 Uh-huh.

01:20:25.220 She'd be saying something to me,

01:20:26.260 and I'd have to just...

01:20:27.140 Just watch out.

01:20:27.800 Oh, every time, brother.

01:20:29.020 And if you do...

01:20:29.800 If you miss the cadence...

01:20:30.660 You hear the wind

01:20:31.320 come off the thing.

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01:20:37.160 you don't talk back to.

01:20:38.460 She probably got a backhand from...

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01:24:27.820 Did you guys go to college?

01:24:29.240 You did.

01:24:29.580 Yeah, I graduated in 2018,

01:24:31.340 so I got out at a good time.

01:24:32.520 I started

01:24:33.360 playing music

01:24:34.420 right out of high school.

01:24:35.420 Really?

01:24:36.140 Yeah, he was actually

01:24:36.880 in college a while

01:24:37.900 while we played music

01:24:38.680 and he'd have to

01:24:39.380 make deals

01:24:40.460 with his professors

01:24:41.240 to come back

01:24:42.060 and take tests and stuff

01:24:42.960 because we'd be out

01:24:43.600 on the road.

01:24:44.180 Yeah, our first tour,

01:24:45.820 I was like a sophomore

01:24:46.660 and I went to my advisor

01:24:48.460 and I was like,

01:24:49.560 look, I need two weeks.

01:24:51.360 I'm going to do it

01:24:52.540 regardless.

01:24:54.180 Please let me make my work up

01:24:55.400 because I want to go to school.

01:24:57.620 Yeah, and what college

01:24:58.580 was it at?

01:24:59.140 South Alabama.

01:25:00.180 University of South Alabama.

01:25:01.000 USA, huh?

01:25:01.820 USA.

01:25:02.180 USA, red, white, and blue.

01:25:03.840 South in your mouth.

01:25:05.060 That's their mascot?

01:25:06.540 Oh, yeah.

01:25:07.280 Oh, my God.

01:25:08.020 The mascot's a Jaguar.

01:25:09.500 Yeah, but the motto

01:25:11.140 is south in your mouth, yeah.

01:25:12.720 Y'all beat that SEC team

01:25:14.180 one time?

01:25:14.300 It was Mississippi State.

01:25:15.160 I was on the sideline

01:25:15.840 for that one.

01:25:16.660 Really?

01:25:16.960 Y'all beat State?

01:25:17.680 Yeah, we celebrated

01:25:18.500 like it was the Super Bowl.

01:25:20.100 Oh, God.

01:25:20.820 We came into the house.

01:25:21.980 They missed a field goal

01:25:22.780 to win the game

01:25:23.420 and we rushed the field

01:25:25.620 like too early.

01:25:27.080 We had to come back.

01:25:28.080 Rushed the field

01:25:28.440 too early.

01:25:29.760 They were still

01:25:30.480 like probably

01:25:31.020 at three quarters

01:25:31.760 to play.

01:25:32.220 They missed a field goal.

01:25:33.880 We out there

01:25:34.420 celebrating on the logo.

01:25:37.160 It ain't even halftime.

01:25:38.460 South in your mouth.

01:25:39.040 South in your mouth.

01:25:39.640 South in your mouth, dude.

01:25:41.220 What is this right here?

01:25:42.220 Oh, British man

01:25:43.480 has the largest penis

01:25:45.180 in the United Kingdom.

01:25:47.240 That's not a lot of people

01:25:48.440 in that country

01:25:49.020 just to say.

01:25:50.040 Yeah.

01:25:50.300 I mean, the U.S.

01:25:50.900 is what?

01:25:51.380 Almost 400 million.

01:25:52.260 This is in the news.

01:25:54.440 What do we got here?

01:25:55.220 It's about as big

01:25:55.600 as Rhode Island.

01:25:56.420 It can be a nightmare.

01:25:57.400 Is that right?

01:25:58.520 Yes.

01:25:58.920 I think people have,

01:25:59.780 you know,

01:25:59.980 it's a very insalubrious

01:26:01.340 topic to bring up.

01:26:02.220 So I think people

01:26:02.680 have learned a lot

01:26:03.340 of myths

01:26:03.840 from pornography

01:26:04.840 and stuff

01:26:05.520 where they don't realize

01:26:06.920 the implications

01:26:07.880 that it would have

01:26:08.440 when you're actually

01:26:09.160 living with a situation.

01:26:13.260 You got to get

01:26:13.840 that paper optic.

01:26:14.680 When did you first

01:26:15.520 realize that perhaps

01:26:17.180 you had a little bit

01:26:18.060 more than some

01:26:18.600 of your classmates

01:26:19.460 or some of your teammates

01:26:20.320 in the sports team?

01:26:21.560 Classmates?

01:26:22.040 I mean,

01:26:22.300 predictably,

01:26:22.880 it was a wiener

01:26:23.440 shower at school.

01:26:24.300 I think that's

01:26:24.560 what everyone has

01:26:25.160 the first.

01:26:25.800 This dude looks

01:26:26.500 like a creep.

01:26:27.840 Yeah, this guy,

01:26:28.860 first of all,

01:26:29.420 this guy seems

01:26:29.840 like a trap.

01:26:30.500 I bet this guy

01:26:31.060 does not have

01:26:31.520 the biggest wiener.

01:26:32.680 He just is saying that,

01:26:34.140 which is a great thing

01:26:34.800 to say.

01:26:35.760 And then you surprise

01:26:36.820 somebody with a basic wiener.

01:26:38.200 But the man saying

01:26:39.820 your classmates,

01:26:41.120 how do you know?

01:26:42.100 Like,

01:26:43.220 when you're like,

01:26:43.740 hey, let me borrow

01:26:44.260 a ruler and you're like,

01:26:45.220 oh, never mind,

01:26:46.160 actually.

01:26:47.020 I got it under control.

01:26:49.200 Yeah, he,

01:26:49.880 that's a creepy situation.

01:26:51.120 He looks like a school

01:26:52.000 teacher.

01:26:53.300 Yeah.

01:26:53.860 Why would you go on

01:26:54.440 the news about that,

01:26:55.200 though?

01:26:55.640 Dude, I think,

01:26:56.460 I don't know.

01:26:56.880 That's a great point.

01:26:57.380 That's a lot of ego

01:26:57.980 right there.

01:26:58.260 What's the UK got going on?

01:26:59.720 Let me take this wiener

01:27:00.540 for a walk, you know?

01:27:01.760 I'm going to be on

01:27:02.360 the morning news.

01:27:02.520 Yeah, how'd they find out?

01:27:04.200 Is he posting about it?

01:27:05.280 He told.

01:27:07.000 Who's he telling?

01:27:07.940 Nobody's emailing

01:27:08.880 the news like,

01:27:09.920 in the park yesterday,

01:27:12.720 you know?

01:27:15.040 Nobody's ever asked him

01:27:16.000 to prove it, though.

01:27:16.780 He's just going off

01:27:17.680 word of mouth.

01:27:18.460 Yeah, that guy should

01:27:19.300 definitely have to show up

01:27:20.220 every year at a certain

01:27:21.720 meetup.

01:27:22.800 Oh,

01:27:23.180 they brought the ruler

01:27:25.880 out, man.

01:27:26.660 That man is posed

01:27:27.800 with a ruler.

01:27:28.980 Oh,

01:27:30.380 where's he going

01:27:31.660 right there naked?

01:27:32.480 Look at that look.

01:27:33.120 Look at that look

01:27:33.680 on his face

01:27:34.240 and that bottom one.

01:27:35.400 Why he won't get

01:27:36.100 size reduction surgery

01:27:37.080 despite all the downsides.

01:27:38.820 See if you can find out

01:27:39.540 what the downsides are.

01:27:40.640 Just look real quick.

01:27:41.580 Let's see.

01:27:42.800 Because this is something,

01:27:43.820 because yeah,

01:27:44.180 a lot of times

01:27:44.740 this is one of those things

01:27:45.600 where you think a lot of

01:27:46.600 things are going to be great

01:27:47.540 and then they're not.

01:27:48.980 The reality of it,

01:27:50.320 you know?

01:27:50.620 I'm just surprised

01:27:51.280 this is the news over there.

01:27:52.980 Yeah,

01:27:53.460 what are they doing in the UK?

01:27:54.640 You're going soon,

01:27:55.440 aren't you?

01:27:55.920 Yeah,

01:27:56.280 we're going to go over there.

01:27:57.360 This is it,

01:27:57.940 I guess.

01:27:58.720 You're going to have to

01:27:59.860 bring him to a show,

01:28:00.820 bro.

01:28:01.600 Talk about yourself.

01:28:02.540 I'm going to have to

01:28:02.900 bring this guy on stage.

01:28:04.440 Is it something about

01:28:05.180 Cambridge?

01:28:05.820 Where did he say he was?

01:28:06.840 Yeah,

01:28:07.200 Ben Shepard is his name.

01:28:10.400 Yeah,

01:28:10.760 does it say anything

01:28:11.600 that he says is the problems?

01:28:13.820 Oh,

01:28:14.060 to get a reduction

01:28:14.960 would cost $15,000.

01:28:15.480 Yeah,

01:28:15.620 I guess your insurance.

01:28:16.680 So does he need to start

01:28:17.540 a GoFundMe?

01:28:17.840 I don't know if they got insurance

01:28:18.340 in the UK.

01:28:18.920 I don't know how it works.

01:28:20.160 He could start a GoFundMe.

01:28:22.500 That's true,

01:28:23.140 huh?

01:28:23.160 And just keep the money.

01:28:24.880 Oh,

01:28:25.140 that'd be the craziest thing.

01:28:25.840 And then he would just have

01:28:26.400 the money and the...

01:28:27.440 And the wiener.

01:28:29.800 We had a guy

01:28:30.500 that did a GoFundMe

01:28:31.480 or whatever

01:28:31.960 and he was supposed to die

01:28:33.080 or whatever

01:28:33.460 and he didn't die

01:28:34.260 and people were all pissed

01:28:35.100 when they saw him.

01:28:35.540 I would imagine.

01:28:37.000 That's a letdown.

01:28:37.820 That's a scam.

01:28:38.740 Yeah,

01:28:39.120 people were like,

01:28:39.560 what's up,

01:28:40.060 Ron?

01:28:41.220 Thought you were dead.

01:28:42.260 Thought you were going to die.

01:28:43.160 Where's my $20,

01:28:44.460 man?

01:28:44.840 Yeah,

01:28:45.240 bro,

01:28:45.680 huh?

01:28:45.960 All right,

01:28:48.140 pay me back,

01:28:49.100 homie.

01:28:49.180 Yeah.

01:28:49.900 Let's see that cash.

01:28:52.880 I would hate it.

01:28:54.040 It would be cool

01:28:54.700 probably in college

01:28:55.640 but even then

01:28:56.300 it would be...

01:28:56.640 Listen to us hating on it.

01:28:57.700 I'd hate it.

01:28:58.660 No,

01:28:58.820 it's not even fun.

01:29:00.820 Don't want it.

01:29:01.560 I just wouldn't want

01:29:02.240 to be known for that.

01:29:03.200 It'd almost go back

01:29:03.920 to being like

01:29:04.360 one of those circus guys,

01:29:05.820 you know?

01:29:06.760 Come see Wiener Baby

01:29:07.920 or whatever.

01:29:08.860 Hey,

01:29:09.500 getting paid's

01:29:10.080 getting paid,

01:29:10.740 man.

01:29:11.160 Yeah,

01:29:11.520 come see Mr.

01:29:12.340 Watchwearer

01:29:13.220 or whatever they call him.

01:29:14.340 That guy's pretty much

01:29:15.140 the new three-legged gentleman over here.

01:29:16.620 There he is.

01:29:17.220 See,

01:29:17.480 that's Franklin Tini.

01:29:18.760 Come see the snake lady.

01:29:20.160 That was...

01:29:20.900 I wanted my $1

01:29:21.860 I paid back

01:29:22.680 after I saw that.

01:29:24.100 I saw Tom Thumb,

01:29:25.220 world's smallest horse once.

01:29:26.860 It was enjoyable.

01:29:27.840 Was it a small horse?

01:29:29.320 God,

01:29:29.700 it was so little.

01:29:30.420 I mean,

01:29:30.900 dude,

01:29:31.200 it was this big,

01:29:32.000 brother.

01:29:33.220 You think there's

01:29:33.720 like an inbreeding

01:29:34.740 to make them

01:29:35.200 that size?

01:29:36.500 It looked like

01:29:37.720 it...

01:29:38.460 It looked like

01:29:39.320 it wouldn't go

01:29:39.740 to regular school,

01:29:40.580 I'll say that.

01:29:41.180 Yeah.

01:29:41.400 when I looked in its eyes,

01:29:43.320 but it was this big,

01:29:44.480 man.

01:29:44.800 You could tell.

01:29:45.880 He rode the short trailer.

01:29:47.520 He was like...

01:29:48.640 The short trailer.

01:29:49.640 It still...

01:29:50.220 Did it still stand up

01:29:51.100 on its own?

01:29:51.280 A little bit.

01:29:52.020 It tried to.

01:29:52.880 Oh, man.

01:29:53.140 We out here

01:29:53.560 making fun of that horse.

01:29:54.500 Look at him.

01:29:54.720 I thought it was a pig

01:29:55.620 that they glued some hair on.

01:29:57.760 Like a pot of bill.

01:29:58.540 That horse...

01:29:59.040 That horse got issues, man.

01:30:01.000 Well...

01:30:02.080 We're in here

01:30:02.460 bullying that poor horse.

01:30:03.840 Look at him.

01:30:04.300 Look, man.

01:30:04.800 That horse is on the road.

01:30:05.740 It's probably opening up

01:30:06.680 for a...

01:30:07.140 Look at what?

01:30:08.280 Look at it.

01:30:08.720 For a no-humped camel.

01:30:10.440 That horse is doing fine.

01:30:11.580 Paying money to see that horse.

01:30:12.600 You got the Budweiser horses.

01:30:13.940 I paid, I think,

01:30:14.680 probably $2, $2.80 to see it.

01:30:16.020 Horses can do it.

01:30:16.760 Why can't people do it?

01:30:17.760 That's a good point.

01:30:18.540 That's a great point, huh?

01:30:19.700 Yeah.

01:30:20.340 Let people take the show

01:30:21.420 on the road, man.

01:30:22.760 Well, that's the thing.

01:30:23.660 We're getting to a point

01:30:24.440 where it's like

01:30:25.020 little things

01:30:25.660 are going to start to start up

01:30:27.320 and a man's going to be,

01:30:29.120 you know,

01:30:30.660 his own little homeless salt bay

01:30:32.920 or whatever

01:30:33.360 and making meats

01:30:34.220 out of his cart

01:30:34.960 and you're going to have...

01:30:36.540 Yeah, everything should...

01:30:37.400 Everything's going to have to be

01:30:38.560 financed.

01:30:39.220 People are having a tough time.

01:30:40.900 Everything becomes for sale.

01:30:43.780 Yeah, I mean,

01:30:44.200 everybody's like moving

01:30:45.000 into tiny homes

01:30:46.000 and they're going to start

01:30:47.360 starting these little villages,

01:30:49.920 have a little doctor

01:30:51.260 and a dentist

01:30:51.860 and a makeshift trading station.

01:30:55.240 And we have

01:30:55.900 an end-of-the-world plan

01:30:56.860 and sometimes

01:30:57.300 I just wish it'd happen.

01:30:58.620 Sounds fun.

01:30:59.380 You guys have a plan?

01:31:00.280 A little bit.

01:31:01.080 I can't talk about it

01:31:01.940 because I can tell you

01:31:02.360 where we're at,

01:31:02.860 but we all got little jobs

01:31:04.840 already set up.

01:31:05.740 We got land picked out.

01:31:07.340 That's good.

01:31:07.680 Sometimes I just think

01:31:08.440 that'd be kind of fun.

01:31:09.860 Well, you'd be a...

01:31:10.980 Yeah, at least you would have

01:31:12.120 a skill, too.

01:31:13.800 You'd have a band skill.

01:31:15.360 Oh, we're going to be

01:31:15.960 hunting and gathering.

01:31:17.380 Yeah.

01:31:17.700 There ain't going to be

01:31:18.200 no more time for music.

01:31:19.500 When he's got

01:31:20.380 Native American in him.

01:31:22.080 Yeah, I can track the buffalo.

01:31:22.720 We grow the crops.

01:31:25.160 Yeah.

01:31:25.380 We're tracking the buffalo, man.

01:31:26.740 We ain't got buffalo

01:31:27.500 in Alabama.

01:31:29.160 You don't know

01:31:29.780 what's going to happen?

01:31:30.220 We got something down there.

01:31:31.920 I don't know, dude.

01:31:32.920 I've been outside of some...

01:31:34.120 Alabama buffalo.

01:31:35.420 Do you guys go on tour

01:31:39.060 with the new band now

01:31:39.980 or it's just your tour now?

01:31:41.400 Is there a point

01:31:42.140 where you don't open

01:31:43.940 for other bands?

01:31:44.760 How does that kind of work?

01:31:45.580 It's just our shows now

01:31:46.780 and they keep selling out

01:31:48.080 so we keep having to move

01:31:49.560 to bigger venues

01:31:50.360 because people are getting

01:31:51.600 pissed about it.

01:31:53.020 But we are actually

01:31:54.200 opening up for the Rolling Stones

01:31:55.120 on May the 30th.

01:31:57.280 So that's going to be cool.

01:31:57.980 The Stones album

01:31:58.400 is pretty exciting.

01:31:59.520 Where's that at?

01:32:00.780 It's in Gillette Stadium

01:32:02.060 in Foxborough.

01:32:03.760 Wow.

01:32:05.060 That's going to be pretty...

01:32:05.860 That one actually

01:32:06.340 just hit us last week.

01:32:09.420 So things like that

01:32:10.440 are kind of popping up

01:32:11.340 all the time now?

01:32:12.320 Yeah, it's pretty cool

01:32:13.060 because Mick Jagger

01:32:14.100 allegedly has to approve

01:32:15.960 all of the openers.

01:32:17.020 So he approved us.

01:32:18.740 I think we get to take

01:32:19.520 a picture with him too.

01:32:20.420 I'm not sure.

01:32:21.720 But the rules are...

01:32:22.760 We're kind of at a point

01:32:23.580 now where we're...

01:32:24.660 I hate to say too big

01:32:26.160 but there's a point

01:32:26.760 where you can't open

01:32:27.500 for people

01:32:28.080 and there's...

01:32:30.420 Now we're in this weird state

01:32:31.740 of trying to get people

01:32:32.400 to open for us.

01:32:34.040 There's a...

01:32:34.700 You got to...

01:32:35.860 It's like a juggling act

01:32:37.080 of figuring that out.

01:32:38.480 Yeah.

01:32:38.740 What bands are big...

01:32:39.600 That can open for you

01:32:41.460 and what bands

01:32:41.980 are we able to open up for

01:32:43.240 which really

01:32:44.320 be like the Foo Fighters

01:32:45.960 and Chris Stapleton

01:32:46.680 or something at this point.

01:32:48.320 So we only got to

01:32:49.520 really do it a couple times

01:32:50.800 with...

01:32:51.720 Especially with Elle.

01:32:52.400 We did a whole tour

01:32:53.100 with her.

01:32:53.760 Yeah.

01:32:53.940 Like 40 days.

01:32:54.860 She's the only one...

01:32:55.940 She was the first one

01:32:56.780 that took us out like that.

01:32:58.040 Uh-huh.

01:32:58.600 And you know...

01:32:59.440 The only one.

01:33:00.340 We've never done it

01:33:00.940 with anybody else.

01:33:01.840 That's awesome.

01:33:02.380 Yeah.

01:33:04.580 Her...

01:33:05.020 Her...

01:33:05.340 I saw her perform

01:33:06.280 during COVID

01:33:07.100 here in Nashville.

01:33:08.560 Really?

01:33:08.880 I haven't been to one

01:33:09.400 of her shows

01:33:09.820 so I got to go

01:33:10.280 check her out.

01:33:11.280 Yeah.

01:33:11.440 She's cool.

01:33:11.900 She's good.

01:33:12.320 She's on a good show.

01:33:13.340 Yeah.

01:33:14.660 People love her.

01:33:17.200 Was there a moment

01:33:18.120 where you guys

01:33:18.520 kind of felt like

01:33:19.280 dang we really got

01:33:20.420 a real shot

01:33:21.800 like or

01:33:22.580 we're kind of making it

01:33:24.740 like what does this look

01:33:25.760 like was there like

01:33:26.540 one moment

01:33:27.420 where you guys

01:33:27.940 all just

01:33:28.500 maybe walked

01:33:30.600 into a place

01:33:31.220 and sat down

01:33:31.940 and then you like

01:33:32.540 looked at each other

01:33:33.300 and you're like

01:33:33.700 damn are we like

01:33:34.740 making it?

01:33:36.980 Are we doing it?

01:33:37.580 Yeah, yeah.

01:33:38.040 Because it's a weird thing

01:33:38.800 but it's a real thing

01:33:39.600 that happens.

01:33:40.420 I think

01:33:40.600 we have little moments

01:33:42.040 like that

01:33:42.420 like when we first

01:33:43.200 got on the tour bus

01:33:44.120 and got off of our

01:33:44.880 Oh I can imagine that.

01:33:45.880 Getting that Prevost.

01:33:46.980 Getting driven around

01:33:48.280 in a Prevost.

01:33:49.800 Selling out the...

01:33:50.480 We sold out three days

01:33:51.500 at the Ryman

01:33:51.960 in like four hours

01:33:52.980 and that was

01:33:53.780 that was really cool too.

01:33:55.220 And those were in September.

01:33:56.280 Is that the ones

01:33:56.660 coming up in September?

01:33:57.740 That was a moment like

01:33:58.860 because we had

01:33:59.680 we knew

01:34:00.380 we had a good feeling

01:34:01.520 we'd sell one

01:34:02.240 and then it was like

01:34:03.760 okay the second one

01:34:04.580 we got to throw it up

01:34:05.720 right now

01:34:06.200 like within the hour

01:34:07.080 and then it's like

01:34:07.560 we got a third one.

01:34:08.780 We probably could have

01:34:09.320 done five nights.

01:34:09.840 And then the manager

01:34:10.680 was like hey

01:34:11.140 pick an opener

01:34:11.880 right now for a third night.

01:34:12.940 We're doing it.

01:34:13.480 Okay let me see.

01:34:16.360 We got to throw it up

01:34:17.440 in 30 minutes.

01:34:18.320 I'd say that's a moment

01:34:19.280 and we got some big shows

01:34:20.240 coming up this fall

01:34:21.180 that are going to be

01:34:22.580 kind of one of those moments

01:34:23.600 like I don't know

01:34:25.620 specifically

01:34:26.080 but those rooms

01:34:27.100 are getting bigger.

01:34:28.280 Yeah.

01:34:29.060 Yeah do you pick

01:34:29.860 openers together

01:34:30.460 like that as a group?

01:34:31.460 Yeah we pick

01:34:32.060 all our openers.

01:34:33.820 We in Dust Fun.

01:34:34.160 I mainly let

01:34:35.000 like Drew and Andrew

01:34:36.540 y'all do a really good job

01:34:37.540 at picking them.

01:34:38.360 Yeah.

01:34:39.100 We just kind of

01:34:39.780 find music we like

01:34:40.860 and send it to the agents

01:34:41.940 and hey

01:34:42.700 what they cost.

01:34:44.520 Can we get them?

01:34:45.620 We have friends too

01:34:47.060 like Taylor Honeycutt

01:34:49.740 she's from Montgomery

01:34:50.860 and she got started

01:34:52.500 about the same time

01:34:53.180 we did

01:34:53.540 and she's on the Upclimb

01:34:54.560 as well

01:34:55.160 and so she's actually

01:34:57.760 on one of our

01:34:58.220 rhyming shows.

01:34:59.240 Taylor Honeycutt?

01:35:00.040 Mm-hmm.

01:35:01.420 This is great man

01:35:02.520 it's going to give me

01:35:03.000 a lot of good stuff

01:35:03.580 to listen to.

01:35:04.840 Yeah.

01:35:05.700 Oh

01:35:06.020 Belgian man

01:35:08.720 whose body makes

01:35:09.640 its own alcohol

01:35:10.440 cleared of drunk driving.

01:35:11.820 Yeah.

01:35:12.640 I've heard about this before

01:35:13.940 it's a syndrome

01:35:15.120 where you're

01:35:16.620 Sounds like alcoholism.

01:35:18.480 Yeah it does

01:35:19.300 yeah.

01:35:20.240 But it's where your body

01:35:21.520 makes booze.

01:35:22.880 Let me see

01:35:23.260 a Belgian man

01:35:24.160 has been acquitted

01:35:24.680 of drunk driving

01:35:25.460 because he has

01:35:26.180 auto brewery syndrome

01:35:27.760 a rare condition

01:35:29.320 where by the body

01:35:29.920 produces alcohol

01:35:30.840 as lawyers said.

01:35:32.300 Wow.

01:35:33.740 People are not born

01:35:34.960 with ABS

01:35:35.680 but can develop it

01:35:36.880 when they

01:35:37.340 already have another

01:35:38.640 intestine related condition.

01:35:40.400 Patients can present

01:35:41.360 with symptoms

01:35:41.940 consistent with

01:35:42.700 alcohol intoxication

01:35:43.660 such as slurred speech

01:35:44.800 stumbling

01:35:45.300 loss of motor

01:35:46.380 So he's like

01:35:46.880 always buzzed.

01:35:47.900 Yeah that's not similar

01:35:48.720 he's just always drunk.

01:35:49.980 That's got to be crazy though

01:35:51.220 if you just

01:35:51.820 To not have to drink anything

01:35:53.340 but you're always buzzed.

01:35:54.420 Yeah.

01:35:54.560 People are like damn.

01:35:54.940 How does that happen?

01:35:55.940 Does he have to put like

01:35:56.760 fruit juice in

01:35:57.500 and get some

01:35:58.420 some hooch out?

01:35:59.560 I don't know

01:36:00.000 like Randy's burping y'all

01:36:01.420 it's going to be a

01:36:02.200 Yeah.

01:36:03.100 Don't let him drink

01:36:04.100 that apple juice.

01:36:05.080 Yeah pull over baby.

01:36:06.860 He's he's peeing

01:36:07.680 he's peeing liquor

01:36:09.100 at that point.

01:36:09.880 Don't let him drive man.

01:36:12.080 I have a hard time

01:36:13.180 believing.

01:36:14.320 That sounds like

01:36:15.420 some European stuff.

01:36:17.020 Auto brewery syndrome

01:36:17.660 or gut fermentation

01:36:18.460 syndrome is a condition

01:36:19.540 in which ethanol

01:36:21.020 is produced through

01:36:22.000 the endogenous

01:36:23.160 fermentation

01:36:24.000 by fungi or bacteria

01:36:25.440 in the gas

01:36:25.980 gastrointestinal system

01:36:27.940 oral cavity

01:36:28.920 or urinary system.

01:36:29.980 Dang so you can make

01:36:30.860 your own

01:36:31.360 that body wine baby.

01:36:34.220 So does that

01:36:34.900 is it

01:36:35.900 come with the

01:36:36.660 the problem

01:36:38.480 of drinking

01:36:38.860 too much alcohol too?

01:36:40.380 I don't know.

01:36:40.880 Like does he

01:36:41.440 are you literally

01:36:42.900 an alcoholic?

01:36:44.140 I guess just by

01:36:44.980 standing around.

01:36:46.260 What happens if

01:36:46.800 he gives blood?

01:36:48.420 Shoot I don't know.

01:36:49.700 I'll take a pint though.

01:36:50.760 Yeah dude.

01:36:52.120 I'll take two pints dude.

01:36:53.520 Hook that man up.

01:36:54.920 What else?

01:36:55.600 Any other news we got?

01:36:57.540 I did see they had

01:36:58.980 what was that?

01:36:59.960 Oh they had that

01:37:00.660 a dog that

01:37:01.560 did you see this?

01:37:03.880 It's like

01:37:04.220 look it up

01:37:05.140 it's a dog

01:37:06.040 yeah yeah

01:37:07.760 this is it.

01:37:08.300 Terminator

01:37:11.040 Throw Flame

01:37:12.360 unveils robot dog

01:37:13.740 Terminator

01:37:14.440 with flamethrower

01:37:15.320 attached.

01:37:16.260 The Ohio based

01:37:17.240 Terminator

01:37:17.520 $9,400

01:37:18.820 look at this dog

01:37:19.760 you can own.

01:37:20.240 $9,400?

01:37:21.300 That's the Boston Dynamics

01:37:22.040 dog.

01:37:22.540 Yeah.

01:37:22.940 Dude that's like

01:37:23.540 Elon Musk

01:37:24.140 when you put those

01:37:24.800 flamethrowers out

01:37:25.760 except you can have

01:37:26.260 it hooked to a robot.

01:37:28.220 $9,400

01:37:28.740 look at that

01:37:29.940 Elon Musk

01:37:30.680 get fired dude.

01:37:31.420 That's like a nice

01:37:32.020 that's a decent

01:37:32.660 used car price

01:37:33.520 right there.

01:37:34.120 You could have that

01:37:35.700 2008 Durango

01:37:36.860 out there.

01:37:37.560 What do you need

01:37:38.080 that for?

01:37:38.740 What's the purpose

01:37:39.340 of that dog

01:37:39.980 with a flamethrower?

01:37:41.040 Burn stuff.

01:37:42.000 Yeah light a cigarette

01:37:42.840 probably.

01:37:44.340 Burn a trash pile.

01:37:46.060 Dude.

01:37:46.380 Or cook up

01:37:46.900 some damn catfish dude

01:37:48.140 I'll tell you this

01:37:48.780 that thing will

01:37:49.200 grill up a tilapia homie.

01:37:51.140 Man.

01:37:51.760 Bro it could

01:37:52.340 that thing could be

01:37:53.000 a waiter for that

01:37:54.040 homeless guy

01:37:54.620 with that cart.

01:37:55.400 We're gonna start

01:37:55.900 seeing some crimes

01:37:56.740 like what if this is

01:37:57.680 that guy who like

01:37:59.240 just set himself

01:37:59.840 on fire

01:38:00.360 in New York

01:38:01.520 if he was gonna

01:38:03.660 do that

01:38:04.200 he could have

01:38:05.820 done it with

01:38:06.220 one of those dogs

01:38:06.960 would've been cool.

01:38:08.400 It'd have made

01:38:08.740 the news

01:38:09.060 probably a little

01:38:09.540 bigger.

01:38:10.260 Yeah yeah

01:38:10.620 it would've

01:38:10.900 added more.

01:38:11.060 He was trying

01:38:11.420 to start a

01:38:11.800 revolution apparently.

01:38:12.980 Was he?

01:38:13.520 Yeah.

01:38:14.020 You haven't seen

01:38:14.520 that?

01:38:14.920 I didn't see it.

01:38:15.700 I know that it

01:38:16.200 happened.

01:38:16.780 Yeah.

01:38:17.140 There's some

01:38:17.500 protest.

01:38:18.260 I know a man

01:38:18.940 set himself

01:38:19.560 on fire.

01:38:20.260 If you're gonna

01:38:20.600 start a revolution

01:38:21.320 at least use

01:38:21.920 a robot dog

01:38:22.580 with a flamethrower

01:38:23.180 to do it.

01:38:23.820 Yeah.

01:38:24.180 Yeah.

01:38:25.080 Are those legal?

01:38:27.920 We're gonna

01:38:28.380 stop seeing

01:38:28.960 drive-bys

01:38:29.720 and it's gonna

01:38:30.060 be people walking

01:38:30.760 It's 9400.

01:38:32.280 Well I'll tell you

01:38:32.700 you could start

01:38:33.380 some if you get

01:38:34.180 angry at your

01:38:34.680 neighbor that thing

01:38:35.120 you could burn

01:38:35.760 someone's home

01:38:36.520 down.

01:38:36.960 Yeah.

01:38:37.680 Just comes out

01:38:38.340 of the garage

01:38:38.860 and walks across

01:38:39.480 the street.

01:38:40.100 Like oh shit.

01:38:41.040 Hey Jim check

01:38:41.640 out what I got.

01:38:42.920 Or be petty

01:38:43.560 don't even burn

01:38:44.020 the house down

01:38:44.500 just burn

01:38:44.900 their bushes

01:38:45.340 down.

01:38:45.860 Yeah.

01:38:46.760 Oh that would

01:38:47.420 be the worst

01:38:48.080 bro you come

01:38:48.560 out in the

01:38:48.860 morning and

01:38:49.300 your azaleas

01:38:49.920 are gone.

01:38:51.100 Trash their

01:38:51.940 grass.

01:38:54.520 So what do

01:38:55.220 y'all's folks

01:38:55.940 think as your

01:38:56.480 lives change?

01:38:57.240 Has that been

01:38:57.600 interesting or

01:38:58.400 has it been?

01:39:00.620 I mean it's

01:39:01.980 been so long

01:39:02.720 it's just

01:39:03.140 it's just

01:39:04.140 normal I guess.

01:39:05.060 Yeah.

01:39:05.840 It hasn't

01:39:06.860 I mean I know

01:39:07.420 it seems like

01:39:08.020 we kind of

01:39:08.540 just come out

01:39:09.120 of nowhere

01:39:09.440 but we've been

01:39:09.940 doing this

01:39:10.340 for seven or

01:39:11.160 eight years

01:39:11.540 now so.

01:39:12.200 So they're

01:39:12.580 just part

01:39:12.880 they've been

01:39:13.160 on the bandwagon

01:39:13.880 the whole time.

01:39:14.920 I mean

01:39:15.780 yeah my mom

01:39:16.700 really wanted

01:39:17.080 me to finish

01:39:17.480 college.

01:39:18.560 Which you did.

01:39:19.360 Yeah I did.

01:39:19.980 I was like

01:39:20.400 halfway through

01:39:21.260 sophomore year

01:39:21.880 when I realized

01:39:22.960 I could just

01:39:23.760 do this

01:39:24.340 and it was

01:39:25.080 she really

01:39:26.080 wanted me to

01:39:26.520 finish.

01:39:26.880 She wasn't

01:39:27.160 paying for it

01:39:27.660 either.

01:39:27.980 Did you get

01:39:28.340 your degree?

01:39:28.800 Yeah I got it.

01:39:29.360 Oh yeah.

01:39:29.640 It's hanging

01:39:30.720 up.

01:39:31.460 I was kind

01:39:31.760 of blessed

01:39:32.600 in the sense

01:39:33.100 of my parents

01:39:33.720 weren't very

01:39:34.240 hands on

01:39:35.400 as far as

01:39:36.100 that goes.

01:39:36.580 They were

01:39:36.720 like well

01:39:37.120 trust God

01:39:38.360 and do what

01:39:38.700 you're going

01:39:38.920 to do man.

01:39:39.560 You know

01:39:39.740 it's just

01:39:40.580 pray and have

01:39:42.080 a relationship

01:39:42.500 with God

01:39:42.940 and go find

01:39:44.440 your calling.

01:39:45.300 You know

01:39:45.400 I didn't

01:39:45.760 really have

01:39:46.200 people holding

01:39:47.320 my hand

01:39:47.680 too much

01:39:48.100 or overbearing

01:39:49.720 parents or

01:39:50.200 anything like

01:39:50.620 that.

01:39:51.020 Yeah.

01:39:51.340 I could see

01:39:51.840 it being

01:39:52.080 tough though

01:39:52.540 as a parent

01:39:53.000 and that's

01:39:53.340 what your

01:39:53.560 kids getting

01:39:54.040 into you know

01:39:54.700 because

01:39:54.980 especially

01:39:55.820 our parents

01:39:56.320 they grew

01:39:57.000 up in the

01:39:57.480 70s,

01:39:58.200 80s.

01:39:58.800 Back then

01:39:59.740 it was a lot

01:40:00.120 different.

01:40:01.220 My dad

01:40:01.740 works in

01:40:03.060 construction

01:40:03.440 so I was

01:40:03.800 like yeah

01:40:04.160 son if you

01:40:04.600 want to be

01:40:05.040 a rock star

01:40:05.920 go do it.

01:40:07.200 That's awesome.

01:40:08.400 Yeah it probably

01:40:09.260 is.

01:40:09.900 I guess that's

01:40:10.520 two different

01:40:10.900 types of

01:40:11.160 parents is

01:40:11.600 either you

01:40:13.220 got to go

01:40:13.940 with something

01:40:14.340 safe or are

01:40:15.220 you going to

01:40:15.520 be like dude

01:40:16.180 I've had to

01:40:17.220 do something

01:40:17.760 safer.

01:40:18.780 Won't you

01:40:19.180 get out there

01:40:19.760 and take a

01:40:20.200 swing at it

01:40:20.880 both?

01:40:21.280 Well what

01:40:21.580 people need

01:40:22.120 to realize

01:40:22.660 is whatever

01:40:23.600 you want to

01:40:24.180 do you have

01:40:24.680 to make

01:40:24.980 that your

01:40:25.420 safety net.

01:40:27.240 You can only

01:40:28.920 go so long

01:40:29.460 with a

01:40:29.780 backup plan

01:40:30.540 or a

01:40:31.740 side job.

01:40:32.980 Eventually you're

01:40:33.560 going to have to

01:40:34.140 dive into it

01:40:34.860 and make that

01:40:35.580 your safety net.

01:40:36.520 Yeah.

01:40:37.460 Figure it out.

01:40:38.860 Yeah that's a

01:40:39.320 good point man.

01:40:40.120 Even with comedy

01:40:40.960 you hear a lot

01:40:41.620 of comics

01:40:42.020 started out

01:40:42.740 sleeping in

01:40:43.340 the back

01:40:43.560 of their

01:40:43.760 cars.

01:40:45.160 Same with

01:40:45.640 musicians

01:40:46.080 sleeping out

01:40:46.680 in their

01:40:46.860 cars to

01:40:47.280 go do

01:40:47.500 another

01:40:47.720 show the

01:40:48.080 next day

01:40:48.500 and you

01:40:49.420 just got

01:40:49.600 to send

01:40:50.460 it.

01:40:51.500 I was in

01:40:52.360 love one

01:40:52.920 time with

01:40:53.280 a girl

01:40:53.720 and I was

01:40:54.200 like I

01:40:54.700 tried to

01:40:55.120 stop and

01:40:55.780 do real

01:40:56.200 estate

01:40:56.560 for a

01:40:57.000 while

01:40:57.420 and I

01:40:58.660 couldn't

01:40:59.380 do real

01:41:01.420 estate

01:41:01.720 real good.

01:41:02.400 I actually

01:41:02.820 filled out

01:41:03.740 one of the

01:41:04.240 leases

01:41:04.560 wrong or

01:41:05.100 something

01:41:05.400 and bought

01:41:07.080 the house

01:41:07.400 yourself.

01:41:08.020 No I had to

01:41:08.540 pay some

01:41:08.820 ladies rent

01:41:09.400 though.

01:41:10.480 Really?

01:41:11.220 Yeah I

01:41:11.800 messed up

01:41:12.540 and

01:41:12.760 during COVID

01:41:15.300 I sold

01:41:15.780 roofs.

01:41:17.320 You sold

01:41:17.520 roofs?

01:41:17.860 Yeah during

01:41:18.940 2020 when

01:41:19.620 those two or

01:41:20.460 three hurricanes

01:41:20.980 hit the Gulf

01:41:21.440 Coast at once

01:41:22.040 everybody was

01:41:23.640 down there

01:41:23.960 just selling

01:41:24.980 roofs and I

01:41:25.520 was working

01:41:25.900 with one

01:41:26.600 of the

01:41:26.820 companies

01:41:27.120 that was

01:41:27.960 owned by

01:41:28.340 one of my

01:41:28.900 friends because

01:41:30.180 he knew

01:41:30.460 like COVID

01:41:31.000 had happened

01:41:31.420 and shows

01:41:32.400 weren't very

01:41:33.020 common at

01:41:33.960 the time so

01:41:34.520 he hooked

01:41:35.680 me up with a

01:41:36.080 job working

01:41:36.500 with him.

01:41:37.660 I think I

01:41:38.040 sold three or

01:41:38.560 four roofs and

01:41:39.180 every single

01:41:39.720 roof that I

01:41:40.260 sold he lost

01:41:40.920 money on.

01:41:41.900 He'd like get

01:41:42.720 under there and

01:41:43.220 just find more

01:41:43.920 and more stuff

01:41:44.420 wrong with it.

01:41:45.620 It ended up

01:41:46.080 being like a

01:41:46.540 $40,000 job and

01:41:47.860 the insurance only

01:41:48.700 covered like

01:41:49.360 $20,000 of it.

01:41:50.520 You're like

01:41:50.860 Brandon.

01:41:51.900 I'm not a good

01:41:52.800 roof seller man.

01:41:53.960 I'm not a good

01:41:54.420 salesman period

01:41:55.100 because salesman's

01:41:56.580 job is to convince

01:41:57.220 you to buy

01:41:57.920 something and

01:41:58.400 my attitude was

01:41:59.720 just like buy it

01:42:00.540 or not I don't

01:42:01.020 care.

01:42:01.780 If you don't

01:42:02.960 want it no skin

01:42:03.480 off my back.

01:42:04.600 It's like the

01:42:05.240 opposite of what

01:42:05.880 you're supposed to

01:42:06.440 do.

01:42:06.880 Hurricane jobs are

01:42:07.820 a real thing

01:42:08.300 where we are.

01:42:09.120 It's really true.

01:42:09.820 You hope for

01:42:10.220 them hurricanes.

01:42:11.700 Well it's so

01:42:12.120 funny.

01:42:12.520 It's like you

01:42:13.380 kind of like

01:42:14.020 yeah so many of

01:42:15.400 my friends work

01:42:16.020 in like where

01:42:16.440 they sell the

01:42:17.440 kelp process

01:42:18.740 like people's

01:42:19.800 insurance claims

01:42:20.500 and all of that.

01:42:21.240 That's what I got

01:42:22.000 during COVID

01:42:22.680 my fiance's

01:42:24.080 dad is an

01:42:25.560 insurance adjuster

01:42:26.380 so I was like

01:42:27.660 untrained so I

01:42:28.440 was climbing on

01:42:28.920 people's roofs

01:42:29.460 marking stuff with

01:42:30.400 them.

01:42:31.280 I had no idea.

01:42:33.380 I was up there

01:42:33.980 just circling stuff.

01:42:35.080 Just drawing

01:42:35.520 whatever?

01:42:36.020 Yeah.

01:42:36.740 Yeah I'd sign my

01:42:38.060 name on half of

01:42:38.900 them just go up

01:42:39.600 there and circle

01:42:40.540 damage and take a

01:42:42.200 picture of it.

01:42:43.020 Well what's scary

01:42:43.660 is like.

01:42:44.160 I would hate to be

01:42:44.740 those homeowners.

01:42:45.460 You got this hippie

01:42:46.080 coming and climbing

01:42:46.640 on your roof up

01:42:48.400 there coloring and

01:42:49.180 drawing.

01:42:49.600 Yeah he's just

01:42:50.100 writing widespread

01:42:50.760 panic lyrics up

01:42:51.740 there.

01:42:53.020 Yeah you need a

01:42:53.800 new roof.

01:42:54.520 Draw the

01:42:54.900 Wayland symbol.

01:42:55.680 Yeah.

01:42:56.700 Have you guys

01:42:57.360 gotten to meet

01:42:58.060 widespread?

01:42:59.640 No.

01:43:00.280 No.

01:43:00.600 I mean we

01:43:00.880 listen.

01:43:01.440 I wouldn't say

01:43:01.960 we're the biggest

01:43:02.420 fans but I mean

01:43:03.260 I think everybody's

01:43:04.400 listened to them at

01:43:04.880 this point.

01:43:05.500 Yeah yeah.

01:43:06.740 It's just something

01:43:07.340 you don't hear a lot

01:43:07.820 of people get to

01:43:08.280 meet.

01:43:08.480 It's just they're

01:43:08.820 kind of like one

01:43:09.320 of those interesting

01:43:10.000 groups you know.

01:43:11.280 It's like we

01:43:12.120 played with Eric

01:43:12.920 Church didn't meet

01:43:13.640 him.

01:43:14.200 He sent a bottle

01:43:14.700 of whiskey with a

01:43:15.320 note but we

01:43:15.840 didn't meet the

01:43:16.700 guy.

01:43:17.780 I think it's

01:43:18.140 because he would

01:43:19.480 play the show

01:43:19.920 and fly out.

01:43:20.400 I think that's

01:43:20.960 how a lot of

01:43:21.420 those really

01:43:21.960 really big guys

01:43:22.700 are.

01:43:23.260 Yeah.

01:43:23.520 They come and

01:43:23.820 get business

01:43:24.280 done and they're

01:43:24.700 out.

01:43:24.840 I went to Eric's

01:43:26.400 house a couple

01:43:28.100 years ago.

01:43:28.540 Oh yeah.

01:43:28.560 You hung out

01:43:28.660 with him.

01:43:29.120 Yeah.

01:43:29.420 And wrote a

01:43:29.820 song.

01:43:30.180 Me and Matthew

01:43:30.840 and Drew wrote

01:43:31.340 a song with

01:43:31.840 them.

01:43:32.360 How did

01:43:32.820 something like

01:43:33.300 that get set

01:43:33.880 up?

01:43:34.960 I have no

01:43:35.320 idea.

01:43:36.100 I think one

01:43:39.260 of the booking

01:43:40.540 agents reached out

01:43:41.220 to him.

01:43:41.380 Probably.

01:43:41.980 Yeah I think it

01:43:42.760 got set up to

01:43:43.380 the managers and

01:43:44.240 I don't really

01:43:45.440 know.

01:43:45.980 I can't remember

01:43:46.520 how that went

01:43:47.440 about.

01:43:48.340 If he reached out

01:43:49.000 to us or if

01:43:49.540 we reached out

01:43:49.980 to him.

01:43:51.100 Are there

01:43:51.360 writing sessions

01:43:53.640 that you have

01:43:54.080 scheduled coming

01:43:54.720 up kind of

01:43:55.240 thing?

01:43:56.520 Or is that

01:43:57.280 just like once

01:43:57.920 in a while

01:43:58.400 sort of thing?

01:43:59.000 How does

01:43:59.240 like because

01:44:00.560 you guys have

01:44:00.960 a new album

01:44:01.320 so you won't

01:44:01.560 be writing

01:44:01.900 for a while

01:44:02.480 or you just

01:44:02.860 kind of write

01:44:03.260 as you go?

01:44:04.120 Me, Drew,

01:44:04.560 and Matthew

01:44:04.920 make a yearly

01:44:06.680 trip up here

01:44:07.360 in January

01:44:08.160 after the new

01:44:09.460 year and that's

01:44:10.120 we usually stay

01:44:10.820 up here for a

01:44:11.300 week and do a

01:44:11.940 bunch of writing

01:44:12.460 and we're trying

01:44:13.980 to do that more

01:44:14.500 often now.

01:44:17.500 But yeah.

01:44:19.540 Sometimes we'll

01:44:20.220 meet people too

01:44:20.860 and just get a

01:44:21.460 co-write scheduled.

01:44:23.180 A lot of times

01:44:23.880 though when we

01:44:24.560 write our

01:44:26.160 stuff of our

01:44:28.560 own it happens

01:44:29.380 when we're at

01:44:29.800 home.

01:44:30.120 It's very hard

01:44:30.620 to write and

01:44:31.320 make music when

01:44:31.920 you're touring

01:44:32.280 all the time.

01:44:33.080 Yeah.

01:44:33.280 And most of

01:44:33.620 our songs come

01:44:34.260 from Brandon,

01:44:36.520 Drew, and Matthew

01:44:37.060 writing rather than

01:44:38.340 from a co-write

01:44:39.160 somewhere.

01:44:41.080 Yeah.

01:44:42.160 It's just kind of

01:44:42.700 how it happens.

01:44:44.200 That's how it

01:44:44.920 happens, man.

01:44:45.820 We play all the

01:44:46.540 new records at the

01:44:47.200 live shows pretty

01:44:48.180 much.

01:44:48.580 Oh, sweet, sweet.

01:44:49.620 That's how we

01:44:49.900 test them out.

01:44:50.860 Yeah, and so the

01:44:51.560 response has been

01:44:52.680 good.

01:44:53.180 That's how we even

01:44:53.900 do it before we

01:44:54.580 even go in the

01:44:54.920 studio.

01:44:55.600 We just start

01:44:56.020 playing stuff.

01:44:56.580 If the crowd, if

01:44:57.560 we don't feel a

01:44:58.120 good response and

01:45:00.520 we kind of go back

01:45:01.180 and change a

01:45:01.780 couple things and

01:45:02.600 they kind of grow

01:45:03.420 with us on the

01:45:04.120 road and we get,

01:45:05.100 I mean, it's like

01:45:05.700 quick feedback.

01:45:07.980 You're constantly

01:45:08.620 in a space where

01:45:09.380 you can experiment.

01:45:10.100 Yeah, we can

01:45:10.340 test.

01:45:10.940 Yeah.

01:45:11.220 Yeah.

01:45:11.520 That's pretty

01:45:11.900 awesome, huh?

01:45:12.440 Yeah.

01:45:12.640 It's like going

01:45:13.160 out and trying

01:45:13.680 jokes on the

01:45:14.540 crowd to see if it

01:45:15.440 lasts or not.

01:45:16.020 Yeah, no, that

01:45:17.480 is one nice thing

01:45:18.180 about having shows

01:45:19.000 where you're just

01:45:19.520 kind of cruising

01:45:20.060 along and you're

01:45:20.800 working and you're

01:45:21.400 writing at the same

01:45:21.940 time because I

01:45:22.780 learn a lot of

01:45:23.320 times in the

01:45:23.820 moment up on

01:45:24.400 stage, you know?

01:45:25.680 I think it's, you

01:45:26.800 can write it but

01:45:27.440 it's, yeah, after

01:45:28.780 a while you kind of

01:45:29.300 know your voice too

01:45:30.260 and you know what

01:45:30.880 will kind of roll

01:45:31.540 for you.

01:45:32.160 I think that's

01:45:32.720 what you can't

01:45:34.240 get and I'm not

01:45:36.020 knocking anybody

01:45:36.560 who does like the

01:45:37.240 voice or American

01:45:38.000 Idol because if

01:45:39.040 that's your way, if

01:45:40.660 that's the path you

01:45:41.540 want to take, then

01:45:42.060 cool, but you

01:45:44.020 can't skip the

01:45:45.160 road-dogging it.

01:45:46.720 You can't skip

01:45:47.320 playing in front of

01:45:47.960 a crowd or playing

01:45:48.600 in front of empty

01:45:49.200 rooms.

01:45:50.760 No matter if you

01:45:51.600 win a TV show or

01:45:52.420 not, you're still

01:45:53.080 going to have to

01:45:54.200 acquire that

01:45:55.040 experience or it's

01:45:56.900 just you're going to

01:45:57.760 have a hard time

01:45:58.560 navigating, trying to

01:46:00.320 figure out how to

01:46:00.820 work a crowd or

01:46:01.580 figure out what

01:46:02.080 works and what

01:46:02.580 doesn't work.

01:46:03.740 Yeah, that's a

01:46:04.320 good point.

01:46:04.720 I would hate to

01:46:05.320 have gotten to, had

01:46:06.920 a chance to have a

01:46:08.020 larger crowd and not

01:46:09.240 known.

01:46:10.280 Yeah.

01:46:10.520 I mean, even

01:46:11.120 then, it's still

01:46:11.660 tough sometimes

01:46:12.520 because it's still

01:46:13.420 you're in front of a

01:46:14.760 huge group of

01:46:15.360 people.

01:46:15.800 I mean, you see

01:46:16.220 all the time

01:46:16.800 entertainers have

01:46:18.580 problems with people

01:46:19.300 throwing them out.

01:46:21.120 We've had to throw

01:46:21.600 people out of shows

01:46:22.520 or people throwing

01:46:23.380 stuff at like

01:46:25.560 Nicki Minaj gets

01:46:27.080 something thrown at

01:46:27.780 her every other

01:46:28.240 week, it looks like.

01:46:29.960 I don't understand

01:46:30.860 that.

01:46:31.400 Yeah, me neither,

01:46:32.180 but it's like there's

01:46:32.840 always going to be that

01:46:33.700 element that you're in

01:46:34.420 a live space, but to

01:46:36.040 not have had the reps

01:46:37.120 of like, I know how

01:46:38.940 to be here.

01:46:39.780 It gives you some

01:46:40.360 confidence, too.

01:46:41.580 Yeah.

01:46:42.200 But yeah, I couldn't

01:46:42.960 imagine, especially a

01:46:43.880 comedian, like you're

01:46:44.920 saying, that just gets

01:46:46.180 thrown out to the

01:46:46.900 wolves.

01:46:47.240 You're here over an

01:46:47.720 arena.

01:46:48.060 Good luck.

01:46:48.520 But a lot of those

01:46:49.180 guys off Kill Tony

01:46:49.920 will have to do that.

01:46:51.080 That's a good point.

01:46:51.680 They go from a minute

01:46:52.420 to, I don't know what

01:46:53.680 you get as an opener.

01:46:55.040 You get a couple more.

01:46:56.760 Yeah, that's the goal.

01:46:58.300 I remember when you

01:46:59.040 got to, they usually

01:47:00.200 start you with three

01:47:00.840 minutes.

01:47:01.480 As a first opener?

01:47:03.240 Yeah, comedian with

01:47:04.040 three minutes.

01:47:04.760 Like when you're first

01:47:05.300 starting out, they're

01:47:05.940 like, okay, you're on a

01:47:07.220 show.

01:47:07.460 It's like you're going

01:47:07.920 to do three minutes.

01:47:09.060 Wow.

01:47:09.420 And you're like, okay,

01:47:10.000 can I get through three

01:47:10.900 minutes?

01:47:11.480 And if you have to get

01:47:12.180 down early, you're just

01:47:12.920 like, I'm done.

01:47:14.540 And they're like, well,

01:47:15.280 you weren't, but okay,

01:47:16.340 come on back here.

01:47:17.960 You know?

01:47:19.960 And then you try to get

01:47:21.040 up to five.

01:47:21.960 And when you really start

01:47:22.980 feeling like you're

01:47:23.480 rocking as a comedian

01:47:24.280 is when you get to like

01:47:25.380 that 15 mark.

01:47:26.520 Yeah, I could see that.

01:47:27.680 You got a little time

01:47:28.440 to get uncomfortable.

01:47:29.980 You're like, I might go

01:47:30.660 on the road.

01:47:31.180 You might start saying

01:47:31.940 a shit like that to

01:47:32.880 people.

01:47:33.400 And people are like,

01:47:34.080 you're out of your

01:47:34.520 mind.

01:47:35.060 You work at Dairy Queen.

01:47:36.620 You know what I'm

01:47:38.600 saying?

01:47:38.880 You're out of your

01:47:39.460 mind.

01:47:39.820 I got a 15 minute set,

01:47:41.180 man.

01:47:41.400 You don't know me.

01:47:42.000 You don't know me.

01:47:43.680 I'm out of here.

01:47:45.560 And you just start

01:47:46.340 yelling at people while

01:47:47.220 you're trying to throw

01:47:47.700 that trash into the bin

01:47:48.820 at night behind the

01:47:49.680 Dairy Queen.

01:47:50.260 Testing it out on the

01:47:51.420 homeless people still

01:47:52.660 hanging around outside.

01:47:54.280 Yeah.

01:47:54.640 And then that's when

01:47:55.520 it gets like, that's

01:47:56.940 when you can kind of go

01:47:57.640 on the road with

01:47:58.300 somebody.

01:47:59.080 But then there's those

01:47:59.860 moments where you get

01:48:00.480 stranded.

01:48:01.000 You burned all your 15

01:48:02.100 in 10 minutes.

01:48:02.860 It was a bad show and

01:48:03.660 you still have to kill

01:48:04.400 five minutes.

01:48:04.960 We've had shows where

01:48:07.180 you just want it to be

01:48:08.200 over.

01:48:08.880 Yeah.

01:48:09.580 What is it?

01:48:10.000 Sometimes it's the

01:48:10.580 energy of a room.

01:48:11.980 It's just the night.

01:48:12.800 It just is what it is.

01:48:13.620 I mean, we had one

01:48:14.380 recent.

01:48:14.940 Sometimes it's just

01:48:16.220 from being tired.

01:48:17.560 Like we're trying to

01:48:18.880 think now where no

01:48:20.320 more than four shows a

01:48:21.260 week and no more than

01:48:22.160 three in a row.

01:48:23.080 Yep.

01:48:23.620 Because by that third

01:48:24.540 show, and we've had

01:48:26.340 five shows in a row,

01:48:27.620 and it's like by that

01:48:28.620 third show, you usually

01:48:29.940 you need a break.

01:48:31.920 And at the end of

01:48:32.580 the day, you're

01:48:32.960 taking away from the

01:48:33.600 crowd anyway, because

01:48:34.840 if you're up there

01:48:35.440 tired and too tired to

01:48:37.640 give it your all, then

01:48:39.260 you're selling your

01:48:40.160 crowd short.

01:48:40.760 Yeah, you just kind of

01:48:41.460 go into the motions.

01:48:42.300 But I mean, we've done

01:48:43.940 that, and people at the

01:48:44.760 shows are like, that's

01:48:45.200 the best show I've ever

01:48:46.020 seen.

01:48:46.800 I'm like, dang, we're

01:48:47.700 sorry.

01:48:48.260 Sometimes it's like

01:48:48.900 Tortuga, though, where

01:48:49.680 it's like everybody's

01:48:50.480 vibing to a completely

01:48:52.600 different style of music

01:48:53.920 than we play, and then

01:48:54.760 we show up just playing

01:48:55.740 rock and roll, and the

01:48:57.320 crowd's just like, bring

01:48:58.280 back the beat.

01:48:59.480 Yeah, it's like, they

01:49:01.440 were like doing, it's

01:49:02.260 like a bro country or

01:49:03.400 pop country, and then

01:49:04.860 we're in the middle of

01:49:05.700 it, and we don't even

01:49:06.220 consider ourselves

01:49:06.720 country.

01:49:07.480 It's just like we

01:49:07.880 ruin everybody's beach

01:49:08.700 party.

01:49:09.500 Yeah.

01:49:09.880 They're out there, they

01:49:10.440 want songs about getting

01:49:11.340 drunk, and.

01:49:12.280 Oh, I could see that

01:49:13.180 kind of, you guys are

01:49:13.900 kind of in a little bit,

01:49:14.900 not your own space, but

01:49:16.160 what is it?

01:49:16.740 I don't know.

01:49:17.480 We just do what we

01:49:18.240 want, I guess.

01:49:19.300 We call it non-dom rock.

01:49:20.660 Yeah.

01:49:21.240 I like that.

01:49:21.700 Non-denominational rock

01:49:23.540 and roll.

01:49:24.720 It's just like.

01:49:25.300 I like that.

01:49:25.980 All over the place.

01:49:26.760 Everybody's at that

01:49:27.420 beach, and then we're

01:49:28.220 like, here's one about

01:49:28.960 mental health.

01:49:29.800 Yeah.

01:49:30.120 Enjoy.

01:49:31.140 If you know somebody.

01:49:32.720 Strays, though.

01:49:33.240 That's kind of strays.

01:49:34.060 That's what strays do,

01:49:35.420 man.

01:49:35.720 Yeah, that part came

01:49:36.940 from just kind of being,

01:49:38.620 I wouldn't say outcast,

01:49:39.700 but we were always a

01:49:40.500 little different from

01:49:41.080 the crowds we grew up

01:49:42.000 in.

01:49:42.840 Didn't quite fit in.

01:49:44.380 I went to private

01:49:44.940 school.

01:49:45.280 I didn't fit in with a

01:49:45.900 lot of those kids.

01:49:46.760 I didn't really put

01:49:47.380 that together, too.

01:49:48.240 Yeah, we are kind of

01:49:49.100 straying from the.

01:49:50.360 From the norm.

01:49:51.240 From the norm,

01:49:51.920 musically.

01:49:53.260 A lot of people don't

01:49:54.180 really know where to

01:49:55.400 put us.

01:49:55.980 Well, there's some

01:49:56.500 riffs in there.

01:49:56.980 Sometimes I feel like

01:49:57.700 some of it has an

01:49:58.320 Aerosmith kind of.

01:49:59.380 It's interesting.

01:50:00.180 I'll go through

01:50:00.560 different moments where

01:50:01.340 I feel different things,

01:50:02.420 you know?

01:50:03.280 Yeah, it's just, I

01:50:04.400 mean, we don't, when

01:50:05.540 we're writing or making

01:50:06.520 music, we don't try to

01:50:07.300 sound like anybody.

01:50:08.620 Or, I mean, we just do

01:50:10.180 what we think sounds

01:50:11.060 cool.

01:50:11.460 Yeah.

01:50:11.860 I think that's really

01:50:12.600 cool to find your own

01:50:13.340 little niche.

01:50:14.640 Yeah, well, look, I

01:50:15.960 think it's just a

01:50:16.940 testament to, but to be

01:50:18.620 able to figure out what

01:50:19.340 works for five guys at

01:50:20.740 once, it's pretty

01:50:21.280 remarkable, you know?

01:50:22.600 Yeah.

01:50:22.780 Because you really

01:50:23.220 have five inputs, even

01:50:24.780 though you have only

01:50:26.000 three or four guys

01:50:26.780 to contribute maybe on

01:50:27.620 the songwriting edge,

01:50:28.640 but.

01:50:29.360 We still all work it

01:50:30.360 up together.

01:50:30.920 Yeah, we all create

01:50:31.700 the songs together,

01:50:32.640 yeah.

01:50:33.340 But then, yeah, it

01:50:34.140 just goes back to not

01:50:34.920 being able to skip that

01:50:35.720 step, playing in front

01:50:37.740 of crowds together as a

01:50:39.800 band and road-dogging

01:50:41.540 it and everything that

01:50:43.640 comes along with all of

01:50:44.540 that.

01:50:45.120 That's where you start

01:50:46.640 to figure out how each

01:50:48.660 other plays or what

01:50:49.500 each other is about to

01:50:50.460 do.

01:50:50.840 It's kind of like,

01:50:53.140 what is it,

01:50:53.740 telekinesis?

01:50:55.420 Telekinesis.

01:50:57.100 Telekinetic.

01:50:58.140 No, it's not.

01:50:58.820 What's the word we're

01:50:59.420 looking for?

01:51:00.400 Telepathic.

01:51:00.900 When women all get on

01:51:01.820 the same menstrual cycle

01:51:02.620 or whatever, like on a

01:51:03.380 volleyball team?

01:51:04.240 We definitely have that.

01:51:05.320 Oh, yeah.

01:51:06.080 Well, we're on the same

01:51:06.840 musical cycle.

01:51:07.720 I like that, man.

01:51:10.460 Any unique things that

01:51:12.060 have happened out on the

01:51:12.680 road?

01:51:13.020 Any wildcat?

01:51:14.160 Oh, man.

01:51:15.080 We got stories for days.

01:51:16.800 Anything that really

01:51:17.540 shook you out there?

01:51:19.060 Man, recent?

01:51:20.420 Or just in general?

01:51:21.120 Back in the day, we've

01:51:22.040 had bus fires.

01:51:23.800 We've blown.

01:51:24.960 We did a whole

01:51:25.540 transmission swap

01:51:26.440 ourselves in Colorado.

01:51:27.720 No way.

01:51:28.380 We bought another bus.

01:51:29.680 We were going through

01:51:31.640 Colorado, I think.

01:51:34.140 I-70 had washed out?

01:51:35.220 Yeah, I-70 was washed

01:51:36.500 out, so we had to go

01:51:37.500 the fair play up through

01:51:38.820 where South Park is, and

01:51:39.940 it's like 13,000 feet.

01:51:42.200 And we had to go the

01:51:42.700 back way to get to

01:51:44.140 Grand Junction.

01:51:45.740 We were going up the

01:51:46.500 side of this mountain,

01:51:47.100 and I was laying in

01:51:48.360 my bunk.

01:51:48.600 I was driving.

01:51:49.600 I hear, like, Andrew

01:51:50.600 screaming.

01:51:51.260 I had my headphones in

01:51:52.160 and I hear him screaming,

01:51:53.040 like, we just blew the

01:51:53.700 transmission out.

01:51:55.100 And, like, we're

01:51:55.700 literally on the side

01:51:56.700 of a mountain.

01:51:57.620 Yeah, it's 90 degrees

01:51:59.100 straight down, 90 degrees

01:52:00.140 straight up.

01:52:00.700 Two-lane road.

01:52:01.800 And-

01:52:02.160 Just right there.

01:52:02.960 Like, right against the

01:52:03.800 side of it with rocks

01:52:05.200 and there's a falling

01:52:05.920 rock sign.

01:52:07.120 And Drew, like, steps

01:52:08.200 out of the bus and

01:52:08.880 hits some gravel and

01:52:09.640 immediately falls down.

01:52:11.060 Just pissed.

01:52:12.100 He gets up and starts

01:52:13.300 punching the bus.

01:52:15.080 We're all just-

01:52:15.580 I just knew it was

01:52:16.340 happening.

01:52:16.660 And we're just going

01:52:17.320 and when you get up

01:52:18.500 that high, with our

01:52:20.440 diesel especially, you

01:52:21.900 lose, you know the math,

01:52:23.320 you lose, what, 3% for

01:52:24.740 every 1,000 feet or so.

01:52:25.900 Of what, brain power

01:52:26.840 or whatever?

01:52:27.520 Yeah, our brain power.

01:52:28.920 No, for the motor.

01:52:30.460 Oh.

01:52:30.780 Like, if the air is so

01:52:31.960 thin, the motor has to

01:52:33.140 work harder.

01:52:33.540 Probably some brain

01:52:34.120 power too.

01:52:34.440 Yeah, we're definitely

01:52:35.160 losing some brain power.

01:52:36.900 I'm not good with

01:52:37.600 altitude.

01:52:38.520 I've had some bad times.

01:52:40.380 And how'd y'all get

01:52:41.280 that thing back down?

01:52:42.040 You needed a tow truck?

01:52:42.660 Yeah, we had to order-

01:52:43.620 We had to get a semi-truck

01:52:44.880 and loaded the bus up

01:52:46.340 and our trailer.

01:52:47.020 Like a $5,000 tow to the

01:52:48.940 Buena Vista.

01:52:50.280 A state trooper gave us

01:52:51.700 a ride as well, out of

01:52:52.720 the goodness of his heart.

01:52:54.480 And, yeah, Buena Vista,

01:52:57.320 Colorado.

01:52:58.220 And there was like one

01:52:59.240 hotel room left in that

01:53:00.300 whole town.

01:53:01.320 Because I was calling and

01:53:02.380 calling and calling while

01:53:03.160 we were waiting on the

01:53:03.640 tow truck.

01:53:04.600 And finally got it.

01:53:05.780 And we all piled up in

01:53:07.140 that one hotel room.

01:53:08.880 I'm like, well, what are

01:53:09.340 we going to do?

01:53:09.840 And me and Andrew, so we

01:53:11.600 had the bus dropped off at

01:53:12.500 a transmission shop in town.

01:53:14.600 And it was probably a good

01:53:15.980 four miles away.

01:53:17.780 And we got up the next

01:53:19.520 morning right before the

01:53:21.180 sun come up and just start

01:53:22.340 walking towards it.

01:53:24.120 And we're like 10,000 feet.

01:53:26.380 I mean, we aren't built.

01:53:27.300 We're sea level men.

01:53:28.640 We ain't built for that.

01:53:29.600 We finally make it to the

01:53:30.500 transmission shop.

01:53:31.280 And he's like, man, I'm

01:53:32.360 two months backed up.

01:53:33.360 Get this thing out of here.

01:53:34.300 I can't work on this.

01:53:35.580 And so we're walking back to

01:53:37.900 the hotel wondering what

01:53:38.860 we're going to do.

01:53:39.600 And we've been in that

01:53:40.680 situation before.

01:53:41.760 And because, I mean, we've

01:53:42.500 had to roll up the shops

01:53:43.200 like, hey, we ain't

01:53:44.640 leaving.

01:53:45.540 You going to fix it or we

01:53:46.540 stay in here with you.

01:53:47.700 And it's not like we just

01:53:48.980 like we just have to throw

01:53:49.760 money at people like just

01:53:50.800 work on it.

01:53:51.460 We'll pay you whatever.

01:53:52.160 And he's not having it.

01:53:53.620 Damn.

01:53:53.920 He's like, sorry.

01:53:55.340 Isn't that where the

01:53:56.000 shining is, where the

01:53:56.980 hotel is?

01:53:58.120 The Buena Vista?

01:53:59.020 I don't think so.

01:53:59.840 I don't think so.

01:54:00.460 This is not a very nice.

01:54:01.940 I mean, it's beautiful, but

01:54:03.160 it's not a big town like

01:54:04.240 where that big hotel would be.

01:54:05.580 OK.

01:54:06.140 Ben might have to pull

01:54:06.760 that one up.

01:54:07.100 I'm not sure where that's

01:54:07.680 at.

01:54:08.640 Yeah, see where that's at.

01:54:09.640 It is up in the mountains

01:54:10.540 somewhere, though.

01:54:12.840 Is that Montana?

01:54:13.780 It's in Oregon, man.

01:54:16.380 Dude, that place is in

01:54:17.160 England?

01:54:18.420 No, the interiors were

01:54:19.540 filmed.

01:54:20.220 No, the shining.

01:54:21.140 Yeah.

01:54:22.320 The interior, yeah.

01:54:23.440 The Real Overlook Hotel,

01:54:24.620 maybe?

01:54:25.100 Mm-hmm.

01:54:25.400 You know, we got Good

01:54:26.660 Godly Woman and the

01:54:27.480 sequel to The Shining for

01:54:28.720 like two seconds.

01:54:29.800 Oh, yeah?

01:54:30.420 Yeah.

01:54:32.580 Doctor Sleep.

01:54:33.520 But to continue what we're

01:54:34.700 talking about was

01:54:35.320 we started having to

01:54:37.360 we started walking back

01:54:38.360 just like, what do we do?

01:54:39.860 And we had to start

01:54:40.480 me and Brandon's hitchhiking

01:54:41.560 to this town in Colorado,

01:54:44.000 literally walking out

01:54:44.880 with a thumb out.

01:54:45.380 Yeah, with a thumb out.

01:54:45.920 Uh-uh.

01:54:46.460 Yeah.

01:54:46.780 This old guy in the Jeep

01:54:47.640 picks us up and he gave

01:54:49.560 us a ride to the hotel.

01:54:50.160 We were just like, we

01:54:50.880 have to do something.

01:54:52.120 Damn.

01:54:52.500 We've been picked up by

01:54:53.220 strangers a bunch of times.

01:54:54.700 He dropped us off and

01:54:55.500 he's like, hey, there's a

01:54:56.340 whitewater rafting company

01:54:57.820 that sells buses like the

01:54:58.960 one you're talking about.

01:55:00.220 Maybe hit them up, see if

01:55:01.220 you can buy a bus from

01:55:02.140 them.

01:55:02.380 And we were like, yeah,

01:55:03.680 whatever, thank you.

01:55:05.020 Still tried to find someone

01:55:06.280 to rebuild the transmission

01:55:07.360 and the closest person

01:55:09.260 that would was in Denver.

01:55:10.940 It's like three hours away.

01:55:12.140 He said, if you pull it

01:55:13.020 and bring it to me, I'll

01:55:13.960 build it for you.

01:55:15.380 And so before we resorted

01:55:17.220 to that, we had rented

01:55:18.160 a U-Haul van and went

01:55:20.260 and talked to that company

01:55:21.740 that the whitewater

01:55:22.620 rafting company and he had

01:55:24.720 a bus just like ours that

01:55:27.020 had a freshly rebuilt

01:55:28.220 transmission in it and he

01:55:29.440 put like 30 miles on it

01:55:30.680 and parked it because he

01:55:31.340 bought a school bus.

01:55:32.440 They used the buses to

01:55:33.380 bus people out to the

01:55:34.460 river to whitewater

01:55:36.500 rafting.

01:55:37.700 And he said he'd sell us

01:55:39.940 the bus for three grand

01:55:41.460 and then he figured out

01:55:43.420 we were a band and he's

01:55:44.200 like, well, if y'all play

01:55:44.720 a show for us, I'll knock

01:55:45.800 a grand off the price.

01:55:46.780 No way.

01:55:47.420 And we were here for

01:55:47.940 like four days and the

01:55:49.600 places, so they do that

01:55:51.320 whitewater rafting.

01:55:52.440 All these teenagers come

01:55:53.800 to be the gods.

01:55:55.220 Like a bunch of river

01:55:55.860 rats come in and they,

01:55:57.440 you know those campers on

01:55:58.340 the back of a pickup truck?

01:55:59.380 Yeah.

01:56:00.360 It's a field full of

01:56:01.700 them.

01:56:02.100 All just laying on the

01:56:02.680 ground.

01:56:03.060 That's where these kids

01:56:03.820 are living.

01:56:05.040 In those?

01:56:05.680 Yeah, and the grass is

01:56:06.480 all grown up around them

01:56:07.460 and they don't have

01:56:08.300 power.

01:56:09.320 So it's just the ground

01:56:10.300 and then the camper

01:56:11.180 top?

01:56:11.400 And the camper shop and

01:56:12.260 it's like a trailer park

01:56:13.760 of them.

01:56:14.080 They're everywhere.

01:56:14.620 But it's not a full

01:56:15.280 trailer, it's just the

01:56:16.000 little cabin.

01:56:16.360 It's just a camper

01:56:17.400 beat, isn't it?

01:56:18.800 What do you mean?

01:56:19.500 Yeah, I mean, well, I

01:56:20.680 think you can stand up

01:56:21.460 in them, but they have

01:56:21.960 like that little, the

01:56:23.840 part in the top you can

01:56:24.780 sleep in.

01:56:25.340 Here's what I'm

01:56:25.700 picking a picture in

01:56:26.600 like a pickup truck

01:56:27.380 and then that thing

01:56:28.840 that goes on the back.

01:56:29.520 That goes on the bed,

01:56:30.280 yeah, like sits down

01:56:31.080 in the bed.

01:56:31.120 It goes on the bed and

01:56:31.840 kind of goes over the

01:56:32.920 top of the cab.

01:56:34.280 Oh, no, not that.

01:56:35.280 I'm just thinking of

01:56:35.820 the one that just goes

01:56:36.760 that's even.

01:56:37.800 Oh, you're thinking of

01:56:38.420 a camper shell.

01:56:39.400 No, this is like,

01:56:40.500 it's like a motor

01:56:41.420 home.

01:56:42.060 Well.

01:56:42.280 Now we know what

01:56:42.700 you're talking about.

01:56:43.180 Yeah.

01:56:43.660 With the piece that

01:56:44.300 goes over the top.

01:56:45.420 And they're all in those.

01:56:45.880 Put like a window

01:56:46.060 unit in them sometimes.

01:56:47.580 And these are

01:56:48.120 straight hippies.

01:56:48.980 And there's no

01:56:49.520 trucks, just those?

01:56:50.400 Just those.

01:56:50.980 And the grass is all

01:56:51.760 grown over top of them.

01:56:52.640 They're living in them.

01:56:53.980 Yeah.

01:56:54.400 Yeah, it's like those.

01:56:55.220 Not as nice.

01:56:56.340 Like that one on the

01:56:57.060 top right.

01:56:57.560 Yeah, 100%.

01:56:58.520 No, oh, left.

01:56:59.440 That one's too big.

01:56:59.960 That one.

01:57:00.740 It's a bunch of those.

01:57:02.440 And these kids are

01:57:03.560 straight up real life

01:57:04.860 hippies.

01:57:05.740 Like straight up.

01:57:07.100 We were playing,

01:57:08.080 we set up and played

01:57:08.980 for them and they were

01:57:09.480 dancing in between

01:57:10.220 songs kind of thing.

01:57:11.820 It's all gravel,

01:57:12.480 it's all dusty in here

01:57:13.540 in the rafting building.

01:57:14.940 Yeah.

01:57:15.400 There was probably 30

01:57:16.280 or 40 of these kids.

01:57:17.680 Yeah.

01:57:17.820 I say kids,

01:57:18.680 they're probably in

01:57:19.140 their late teens,

01:57:20.020 early 20s.

01:57:20.820 It was in the big

01:57:22.060 building where they

01:57:22.640 keep all the boats

01:57:23.360 and we sat up in there

01:57:24.380 and it was like a

01:57:25.400 gravel floor and

01:57:26.600 just the dust from

01:57:27.560 them like scooting

01:57:28.540 and shuffling.

01:57:29.600 That hippie shuffle.

01:57:30.620 Dude, that's incredible.

01:57:32.400 And that was,

01:57:33.400 yeah, look up,

01:57:34.060 see what rafting

01:57:34.640 company that was.

01:57:35.680 That's phenomenal.

01:57:36.240 Whitewater rafting

01:57:36.900 in Buena Vista.

01:57:37.140 Yeah, we can,

01:57:37.820 I mean, there's a couple,

01:57:38.640 it's in Buena Vista.

01:57:40.940 Some whitewater,

01:57:42.540 something.

01:57:43.300 So then you guys

01:57:43.980 take off in that

01:57:44.620 new bus?

01:57:45.100 Well, no.

01:57:45.820 We get the tow truck

01:57:47.180 to drop our bus off

01:57:48.880 next to the one

01:57:50.440 we just purchased

01:57:51.060 and then we just

01:57:52.060 start taking them

01:57:53.400 apart and we took

01:57:54.180 the transmission

01:57:54.640 out of ours,

01:57:55.920 took the transmission

01:57:56.560 out of the other one

01:57:57.380 and swapped them

01:57:58.620 around.

01:57:59.940 And I did something

01:58:00.840 wrong in the process.

01:58:01.640 I didn't put the

01:58:02.460 torque converter

01:58:02.980 all the way in

01:58:03.720 and so we bolted it

01:58:05.120 up and bent a pump

01:58:06.640 gear and had to

01:58:07.240 pull it back out

01:58:08.020 and take it to that

01:58:09.220 original transmission

01:58:10.000 shop and we pulled

01:58:11.200 one of the,

01:58:11.700 what he was talking

01:58:12.260 about, like,

01:58:12.720 hey, we need you

01:58:13.640 to fix this.

01:58:14.180 We ain't leaving.

01:58:14.620 Fix it.

01:58:15.620 He ended up

01:58:16.120 having a soft spot.

01:58:17.020 He actually helped

01:58:17.560 us out big time.

01:58:18.700 He took it apart

01:58:19.320 and straightened out

01:58:20.260 what I had accidentally

01:58:21.000 bent and put it

01:58:21.860 back together and then

01:58:22.600 we got it back in

01:58:23.380 there.

01:58:24.680 A two-day job turned

01:58:25.920 into, like,

01:58:26.240 a five-day job and

01:58:27.040 it was miserable.

01:58:27.840 But while, like,

01:58:28.380 Brandon and a couple

01:58:29.160 of the, and this is

01:58:30.120 just the five of us

01:58:30.900 on the road together,

01:58:31.860 they would be working

01:58:32.620 on dropping the

01:58:33.320 transmission or

01:58:34.200 getting the other

01:58:34.640 one ready.

01:58:35.740 Me and Zach would

01:58:36.920 be just ripping every

01:58:37.940 part we could get

01:58:38.540 our hands on on this

01:58:39.600 bus.

01:58:40.020 You don't see these

01:58:40.660 buses ever in,

01:58:41.920 like,

01:58:41.980 a pull-apart.

01:58:42.540 Usually somebody

01:58:43.500 will take them.

01:58:44.020 It's a 7.3 diesel.

01:58:45.160 Those never show up.

01:58:46.240 So we're getting

01:58:46.820 every part you could

01:58:47.720 put a hand on

01:58:48.400 snatching it out.

01:58:49.720 We took out, like,

01:58:51.040 the turbo.

01:58:51.820 We took the back

01:58:52.440 AC unit.

01:58:53.020 We took the driver's

01:58:53.840 chair.

01:58:54.580 Took the steering,

01:58:56.640 the steering box

01:58:57.960 underneath it.

01:58:58.980 That thing would

01:58:59.460 never drive ever

01:59:00.180 again in its life.

01:59:01.300 We just straight

01:59:02.100 pull apart.

01:59:03.420 Somebody asked if

01:59:04.120 they could have it

01:59:04.640 and we were like,

01:59:05.040 yeah, you can have it.

01:59:05.640 He was like,

01:59:06.000 we'll just drive.

01:59:07.100 Yeah, he said,

01:59:07.680 steer it over here

01:59:08.440 and I'll pull it.

01:59:08.900 I was like,

01:59:09.120 you ain't steering

01:59:09.560 nothing.

01:59:10.240 So we straight

01:59:10.820 left it.

01:59:11.420 You're like,

01:59:11.960 we took the steering.

01:59:12.840 We took everything.

01:59:14.420 That thing was,

01:59:15.400 we took the bumper.

01:59:16.460 We swapped the bumpers.

01:59:18.340 Everything.

01:59:19.000 I took the taillights.

01:59:21.020 But we got it put back,

01:59:23.160 our bus put back together

01:59:24.240 with all these other parts

01:59:25.180 and got down to Mississippi.

01:59:27.020 So you guys had to

01:59:27.520 miss some shows

01:59:28.100 or you had a little break?

01:59:28.960 I think we missed one show.

01:59:30.280 Did we?

01:59:30.680 I don't know if we did.

01:59:32.180 We missed the,

01:59:32.900 where were we heading?

01:59:34.280 Mississippi.

01:59:34.940 No, we were heading

01:59:35.520 somewhere else.

01:59:36.420 Oh, Grand Junction.

01:59:37.300 Yeah, we missed

01:59:37.820 the last Colorado show

01:59:38.940 but we had four days off

01:59:40.520 so we made it.

01:59:42.060 We just buckled up

01:59:43.000 and drove.

01:59:44.360 Wow.

01:59:45.120 Yeah, that was a time

01:59:46.660 in our lives that was,

01:59:48.040 looking back,

01:59:48.780 it was fun.

01:59:49.460 In the moment,

01:59:49.980 it was,

01:59:51.200 I think it was

01:59:51.860 that American Adventure

01:59:53.020 Expeditions looks familiar.

01:59:54.660 Yeah.

01:59:55.980 We went and stopped

01:59:56.840 somewhere that's a good

01:59:57.680 whitewater raft

01:59:58.400 and it was in Tennessee

01:59:59.240 that was over near Chattanooga.

02:00:00.740 I've never done it before.

02:00:02.260 It looks fun.

02:00:03.100 It's nice, man.

02:00:03.820 They didn't take us out.

02:00:05.080 You'd think that'd been

02:00:05.800 part of the deal

02:00:06.460 but there's,

02:00:07.940 there's your bus.

02:00:10.080 Oh, man.

02:00:11.100 That's it.

02:00:11.800 I mean,

02:00:12.060 that's the town.

02:00:13.460 That's where we were trapped

02:00:14.220 for four days.

02:00:14.700 It was beautiful.

02:00:15.980 Looks like it.

02:00:16.420 Oh, yeah,

02:00:16.620 but we were underneath

02:00:17.340 that thing,

02:00:18.380 bench pressing this transmission

02:00:19.680 and this dude comes by

02:00:21.220 and he crawls up

02:00:22.400 under there with us.

02:00:23.380 This hippie.

02:00:24.020 He had like a big mustache.

02:00:25.100 He's like,

02:00:25.580 let me touch everybody.

02:00:26.940 Get his hands on us.

02:00:27.900 Eliza Thornberry's

02:00:28.760 dad mustache.

02:00:29.820 We're having a moment right now.

02:00:31.500 It's like,

02:00:31.800 yeah, man,

02:00:32.220 we're having a moment

02:00:32.900 this whole week.

02:00:33.880 Thank you.

02:00:34.660 Then he offered us some drugs.

02:00:35.680 He's like,

02:00:36.060 man,

02:00:36.220 y'all like to party?

02:00:37.620 Like,

02:00:38.340 yeah,

02:00:38.780 we like to party.

02:00:40.020 He's like,

02:00:40.480 man,

02:00:40.600 I got ketamine.

02:00:41.500 I got cocaine.

02:00:43.220 I've got,

02:00:43.960 I've got all sorts of stuff.

02:00:45.680 We're like,

02:00:46.080 no,

02:00:46.360 man,

02:00:46.620 we're,

02:00:46.920 we're good.

02:00:47.600 We're going to bench press

02:00:48.460 this transmission.

02:00:49.040 Wasn't really good

02:00:49.660 at reading the room.

02:00:50.620 Just covered in grease

02:00:51.480 trying to put a bus bag together.

02:00:53.020 I ain't doing no cocaine

02:00:54.280 with a,

02:00:56.000 someone who's super homeless.

02:00:58.800 Oh, yeah.

02:00:59.140 These are,

02:00:59.760 and,

02:01:00.120 you know,

02:01:00.580 if someone is,

02:01:02.120 I don't know if it was like a,

02:01:03.200 yeah,

02:01:03.660 I'll see where you're not living at.

02:01:05.040 Let's party.

02:01:05.620 Let's walk around.

02:01:06.140 Come back to my camper.

02:01:07.260 We'll hang out.

02:01:08.060 But if somebody's super homeless,

02:01:09.440 dude,

02:01:09.700 I'm out.

02:01:10.300 That could have been it too.

02:01:11.220 That looks pretty familiar.

02:01:12.440 It was,

02:01:13.180 what was across,

02:01:14.140 there was two of them

02:01:14.940 across the street

02:01:15.540 from each other.

02:01:16.640 Yeah.

02:01:17.000 There was a Domino's

02:01:17.900 down the street.

02:01:18.540 That's all we had to eat.

02:01:19.680 Oh, yeah,

02:01:20.020 there always is.

02:01:20.620 Next to a mechanic shop.

02:01:21.860 They shared the driveway

02:01:22.820 because they hated each other.

02:01:23.960 Where'd you guys sleep at

02:01:24.440 while you were there?

02:01:25.160 The hotel was right

02:01:26.020 in front of the rafting place.

02:01:27.500 I think that last night

02:01:28.640 we had to sleep on the bus.

02:01:30.080 Yeah, we did.

02:01:30.520 As it was still blocked up,

02:01:32.120 just we opened the windows

02:01:33.060 and camped out in it, man.

02:01:35.400 Just like the hippies.

02:01:36.460 Hell, yeah.

02:01:37.660 And that was when you,

02:01:38.540 that's when you're like,

02:01:39.960 oh, now I see where

02:01:40.600 that guy was coming from.

02:01:41.680 Yeah.

02:01:42.380 It was,

02:01:43.240 that was a,

02:01:44.180 that was a tough time.

02:01:46.840 Yeah,

02:01:47.340 it was Domino's.

02:01:48.380 Yeah,

02:01:48.680 and I think it was,

02:01:49.620 it's the one across,

02:01:50.500 it's the Adventure Company.

02:01:52.040 Yeah.

02:01:53.620 That's who you guys are, man.

02:01:54.820 Y'all are the Adventure Company.

02:01:55.680 I believe it was them.

02:01:55.800 You guys have been

02:01:56.780 on a lot of adventures, man.

02:01:57.960 I got a good rating.

02:01:58.620 That's the raft.

02:01:59.140 That's the raft.

02:01:59.880 Look at this.

02:02:00.680 That's where we played the show.

02:02:01.520 There's that building,

02:02:01.920 go up one, Ben.

02:02:04.000 That one.

02:02:04.680 No, y'all played

02:02:05.380 in that raft room?

02:02:06.280 That one.

02:02:06.640 Yeah, we played

02:02:07.100 in that raft room

02:02:07.800 right there.

02:02:09.000 Amen.

02:02:09.760 That's where we set up.

02:02:11.640 They were still rafts

02:02:12.540 hanging around.

02:02:12.880 People were hanging out

02:02:13.540 and watching the shows.

02:02:14.800 It's kind of cool.

02:02:15.900 Bro, that's unreal looking.

02:02:17.660 We'll have to get in contact

02:02:18.580 with those folks.

02:02:19.860 Dude, if you guys went back

02:02:20.820 through there at some point.

02:02:22.400 Probably,

02:02:22.880 that bus is probably still laying

02:02:24.160 where we left it.

02:02:24.920 You need to go check on that bus.

02:02:26.200 Yeah.

02:02:26.760 Amen, man.

02:02:27.860 They hate that mechanic shop

02:02:29.300 next door.

02:02:29.800 They hated each other.

02:02:31.800 But you guys were kind of

02:02:32.900 like the bridge between them

02:02:33.860 that time, huh?

02:02:34.460 Yeah.

02:02:34.660 Except we left that bus.

02:02:35.960 That mechanic said

02:02:36.580 he was going to go get it.

02:02:37.600 I bet he never went and got it.

02:02:39.100 It's probably still sitting

02:02:39.880 in the same place.

02:02:41.360 Any stray animals

02:02:42.400 you pick up out there?

02:02:43.300 Speaking of the strays.

02:02:45.200 No, not really.

02:02:47.200 I'm trying to think.

02:02:48.140 We've hit some animals.

02:02:49.580 Amen.

02:02:50.380 We did.

02:02:50.840 And RIP.

02:02:51.700 Sorry.

02:02:51.880 But hey, look,

02:02:53.740 sometimes the Lord uses

02:02:55.500 you and your vehicle

02:02:56.640 to bring an animal home.

02:02:58.200 Exactly.

02:02:58.820 It's good for the population.

02:02:59.780 They'll just respond somewhere.

02:03:01.180 Yeah.

02:03:03.700 Dude, I'm so excited

02:03:05.000 about the new album.

02:03:05.640 When will it come out?

02:03:06.360 Do we know yet?

02:03:07.100 We're thinking late summer.

02:03:09.260 Yeah.

02:03:09.620 Hopefully around August time.

02:03:11.360 It's about to start

02:03:11.780 picking back up again.

02:03:13.260 I think everybody's

02:03:13.940 going to really like it.

02:03:14.760 I'm amazed that you guys

02:03:15.820 aren't even impressed

02:03:16.640 with yourselves yet.

02:03:17.680 but it's one of those things

02:03:20.520 you kind of can't take it

02:03:21.720 for granted.

02:03:22.680 It can be taken from you

02:03:23.720 tomorrow, you know?

02:03:25.360 Yeah.

02:03:26.060 It's like we could

02:03:27.140 skinner this thing

02:03:27.960 and die in a plane crash.

02:03:30.360 Hopefully not.

02:03:31.280 People get popular too

02:03:32.320 and they're popular

02:03:32.960 for however long

02:03:34.600 and then time goes by

02:03:36.280 and then nobody knows

02:03:36.940 who they are anymore.

02:03:37.700 That could very well be us.

02:03:38.960 You know, it's who knows?

02:03:40.880 Just try to be thankful for it

02:03:42.320 and never want to be like

02:03:44.220 complacent, I guess.

02:03:46.020 Always want to be trying

02:03:46.880 to get better

02:03:47.440 and just be a better person,

02:03:51.380 put on a better show

02:03:52.220 and be a better band,

02:03:54.200 make better music.

02:03:55.100 Just keep,

02:03:55.960 never stop growing, you know?

02:03:57.340 Yeah.

02:03:58.860 Well, the rest of us

02:04:00.140 are impressed, man.

02:04:01.100 I'll say that, dude.

02:04:02.560 Good deal.

02:04:03.320 There's a lot better music

02:04:04.440 out there.

02:04:04.820 For sure.

02:04:05.400 Thank you guys so much

02:04:06.280 for making good tunes

02:04:07.300 and yeah,

02:04:09.000 excited to hear the new album.

02:04:09.880 Do we even know

02:04:10.260 a name of it yet?

02:04:12.360 Give it to them, Brandon.

02:04:13.520 Huh?

02:04:13.840 Just give it to them.

02:04:14.740 All right.

02:04:15.080 The album's going to be called

02:04:16.120 Made by These Moments.

02:04:18.580 Nice.

02:04:19.680 And it's got a good message

02:04:20.880 to it.

02:04:21.300 I'm excited.

02:04:22.120 I'm excited for people

02:04:23.340 to hear the music,

02:04:24.040 but it's just got

02:04:24.560 a good message as well.

02:04:27.160 So, it's going to be cool.

02:04:28.820 No, we've never told anybody

02:04:29.780 that publicly, so.

02:04:30.960 Nope.

02:04:31.520 Nice.

02:04:32.180 You heard it here first.

02:04:33.180 I'm sure you'll email me tomorrow

02:04:34.360 and ask me to take it out,

02:04:35.420 but that's all right.

02:04:36.180 No, we're in charge here, buddy.

02:04:38.040 We make the calls.

02:04:38.620 Oh, man.

02:04:39.680 We make calls.

02:04:41.620 Yeah, well, thanks for sharing that

02:04:43.360 Made by These Moments, man.

02:04:44.960 Yeah, it's a lot of what life is, man.

02:04:46.680 You know, making them good ones, too.

02:04:48.180 I mean, that's what it stands for for us.

02:04:50.000 All the stories we were just talking about

02:04:51.540 is why we're here.

02:04:53.340 So, it means a lot to us.

02:04:55.960 Amen.

02:04:56.580 Red Clay Strays, boys.

02:04:58.380 Anyways, thank you guys so much, man.

02:05:01.580 I appreciate it.

02:05:02.320 Thank you guys for coming

02:05:03.020 and just chatting and spending time.

02:05:04.580 Good to get to know you guys a little bit,

02:05:06.400 and yeah, I look forward to coming out

02:05:08.640 and being able to catch another show soon.

02:05:10.240 Yeah, you just let us know.

02:05:11.700 We always got a spot on the list for you.

02:05:13.700 Gang, baby, you guys stay healthy out there, man.

02:05:15.660 Me, too.

02:05:16.220 You, too, man.

02:05:17.280 Thank you.

02:05:17.680 Now, I'm just floating on the breeze

02:05:20.480 and I feel I'm falling like these leaves.

02:05:23.540 I must be cornerstone.

02:05:28.380 Oh, but when I reach that ground

02:05:31.320 I'll share this peace of mind I found

02:05:34.160 I can feel it in my bones

02:05:37.640 But it's gonna take

This Past Weekend with Theo Von - May 09, 2024

E501 Red Clay Strays

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