E509 Luke Combs
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Length
2 hours and 13 minutes
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197.4249
Summary
Luke Cone is an award-winning country musician and songwriter. He has a new album, Fathers and Sons, which is coming out just before Father s Day, and I m thankful to sit down with him today to talk about it.
Transcript
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Today's guest is an award-winning country musician and songwriter.
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He's out of North Carolina and has gone on to become one of the biggest names in entertainment.
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He has a new album, Fathers and Sons, which is coming out just before Father's Day.
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And I'm thankful to sit with him today, my new friend, Mr. Luke Cone.
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You can just, you can really hear the nails go across it.
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That's how you know it's, it's, it's got rivets inside of it, you know?
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It's like, you know, there's just some dude who woke up in his trailer and he just, he's trying to quietly eat the leftovers without his wife hearing him.
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Dude, hold on, there is a guy, dude, and don't ask me how this comes across my feed, but it's like day 600 of me spraying dog medicine on my hands till I can strike a match off my knuckles.
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And I'm like, why do I care so much about this guy striking a match off his knuckles?
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But dude, and at the end of every video, dude, it's him.
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And at the beginning, he'll go, now there's a sensory nightmare at the end of this video.
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And it's him going, and it's like his sandpaper ass hands, like going in the mic, dude.
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Spray dog medicine on my hands in order to make the skin of my hands tougher.
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Don't forget to like, share, like, the dog medicine, blowing like champagne.
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I went to the doctor today and asked him about tough foot.
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Dude, he's sand in the wood with his hands, dude.
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He's, here's my question is, what's the end thing?
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Like, how, is there a two, here it is, dude, dog medicine.
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What do you think the real function of that medicine is?
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Get some, can we get some audio on this guy's hands, dude?
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So, this is a gentleman, you can't see him at home, guys.
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This is sort of a Rubenesque gentleman who is making his hands rougher, and then...
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Dude, he will probably be the president in two terms.
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And here he is, striking a match on his knuckle.
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Now, he can strike a match on his feet, which is feet in and of itself.
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I admit, yeah, we had a guy one night that came to a show, and he's like, hey, man, me
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And he goes, he's missing 70% of his skull, right?
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And the dude had a cool thing, though, where if he, like, put his finger in his mouth and
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went, then the other part of his head would kind of show up, dude.
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You don't need all your skull to party over there.
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Oh, we had a guy, we used to have a really great, I want to say homeless guy, but a guy
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who had, who was just kind of hadn't been home probably in a decent amount of time.
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And he, but when he smiled, he had a couple of his teeth in his hand that I guess had fallen
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out or something, and when he'd smile, he would still make the shape, and he would show
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He just keeps, that was kind of his party trick.
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Like, does he, do you think he's like, need money for veneers?
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And then he's like, here's the teeth that I need.
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I mean, dude, even like the places you'll stay, like I stayed at a place the other night,
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like sometimes we'll stay at some pretty nice spots, and sometimes, you know, it's just
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Like an outdoor, when the doors are on the outside.
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You know, that you've arrived at a certain level of establishment.
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And we, it's like, you know, we played a show somewhere, Columbia, South Carolina.
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And then we had a show in the Outer Banks the next day.
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Like, I'm trying to check into the rooms and stuff.
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We're supposed to play a tailgate at Clemson the next morning.
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So we're trying to, like, get that in, make an extra, like, $800, me and my guitar player,
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So we drive from Columbia to Clemson a couple hours.
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So pop in that room, dude, and there must have – it looked like the cicadas came out of the room.
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It's been open for – since checkout, which is at least 12 hours, dude, with all the lights in the room on.
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Go to the desk, and I'm like, hey, I'm an easy guy.
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And they were like, ooh, we don't have any other rooms.
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Yeah, if they have a blender in there, that's extended stay.
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When there's anything to cook with, you've reached another level.
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Yeah, some hotels there's – well, one time I remember I called down to the front desk.
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It just – dude, one time we stopped in Lexington, and I went in to check in, and it was kind of during the pandemic.
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So people were kind of on their wits end here and there.
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And you'd see people wearing neck braces for no reason, all type of stuff.
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This dude, I go in there, and it took him forever, bro, to just find out if there's a room.
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And I was like, is there anything I can do to expedite this?
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And then he goes, you know, I used to be in a wheelchair.
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No, and it wasn't like I was just out of a wheelchair, like work with me here.
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It was just like throwing something from the past, I think.
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Did he give you any kind of – so he's making an excuse for just you trying to hurry him up.
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If you still are in a wheelchair, like if I notice to see somebody in a wheelchair, I'm going to be like, what can I – you know, I'm going to work with you here.
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I'll even, you know, I'll even take a ride with you or whatever, but like if there's somebody who's like, yeah, I used to be or –
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We fired right into the dog medicine hands guy fast, dude.
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Some of that, though, stay in different places.
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It gets easier to – it's easier to rough it when you're younger.
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Like when that's – when roughing it is the only experience, which was –
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I mean, in the van, you know, the 15-passenger van, it's like –
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Because that's – but when we had back rows out, and it's all the gear.
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But there's like six guys in there, all these amps, guitars, like – it was a mess, dude.
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I feel bad for some people now, though, like I think of – like, let's say you're a new artist.
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And let's say you have a song that blows up on the internet or whatever, and then you're just thrust into like this really like official version of yourself, even if you're maybe not like ready for that.
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Oh, I see what you're saying. Even if you just have one or two songs, like you can have something blow up so hard online that –
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And that you have to get a label and all this stuff, and you – it's not that – that's sick, dude.
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I'm glad that people have the capability to like – to achieve that for themselves now, because that was something that wasn't really achievable up until like maybe seven or eight years ago, I think.
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But you miss so much of like all those good memories from like the road and like when it sucked and like playing bars and nobody's there.
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And all my like favorite stories, man, from like my music career, a lot of them are from that time.
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Like from the like unofficial days, you know what I mean?
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Like there's no like – like an unofficial biography, dude, you know what I mean?
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But I feel like people are missing that a little bit.
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Like if you just go right on the tour bus, dude, like there's no – there's no strife.
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It's kind of like catch one hit or one like melody that really like catches fire on social media and then you can be opening up for someone.
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And then you go – that's your first experience being on the road is I'm in a bus and I play in arenas.
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But still, it could set you up for some reality.
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Because what happens when you start way up here – and not that that's all the way at the top, but if you kick past people that have been doing it for 10 years and then all of a sudden you're – because like in country, there's a lot of these like guitar pulls and stuff where you like – like let's say there's three or four of us up here.
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We're all playing for this radio station thing or whatever.
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It's like let's say one of those guys makes it to the thing.
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Well, let me – so let me just paint an example of what could happen.
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You're a new guy or gal and you have a song that blows up and that's sick, dude.
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But all of a sudden you're at the same level of let's say in the vacuum of this story, the new artist that you're up there with is Chris Stapleton.
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You maybe have never met anybody you're playing with and they're like, all right, man, this Chris guy is going to go first and then you'll play a song after him, dude.
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And he fires into just the most singing-ass, guitar-playing-ass thing you've ever heard.
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And you're up there going, I got to play after this.
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And I have to do it five more times in front of all these people.
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It's like you've entered your Honda Civic that won a race in your neighborhood against the guy driving a NASCAR.
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It's like, it's so hard to compete against that.
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So the version where the dance is cool is not even the one you get to play at this thing.
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Because it's just you and, like, some guy that plays guitar you met at a coffee shop, you know?
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But do you think, though, it could be a sign of, like, the way that things will be?
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I remember when, like, because there started, I remember when vloggers came out, right?
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The vloggers would sell out comedy clubs, like, around the country.
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And then I just wonder, like, if the future is more, you know.
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I think just from, you know, maybe in 30 years or whatever, that's just, like you're saying,
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I wonder if things just evolve where that's the only way.
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But eventually, like, that thing will be monopolized by somebody.
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Either, I don't know, the powers that be, whatever you want to call it, will figure out
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That's probably already happening a lot, to be honest.
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But everybody thinks, you know, what's the thing that people, the conspiracy theories
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Especially in, like, if you're, like, going to look at, like, real country culture, like,
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People would notice anybody that can button their shirt up correctly the first time.
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They'd be like, this guy's going to be something, dude.
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If somebody had gasoline, people would be like, look at this narc.
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They're like, look at this guy with his car over here, dude.
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That was the biggest thing when I was growing up was always accusing people of being narcs,
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Somebody would get a new pair of shoes and be like, yeah, Ronnie's a fucking narc.
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But then it's like, where does it, I always wonder, where does it progress from there?
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Like, where do you, like, when that's the new thing, what's the next new thing?
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There'll always be another, like, version of, like, what's the way to, your path to, like,
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achieving your music dreams or your comedy dreams or whatever it may be.
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Like, I think, really, the first guy in country music that used social media to his advantage
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Like, the first guys that, like, came to Nashville.
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It was like, well, these guys already got stuff going on.
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So, and I'm in no way, like, shaming anybody that does that.
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One of the first guys that, like, and I didn't even know I was doing it, dude.
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Now people are probably smart enough to, like, they're doing that because they're smart.
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I was just doing it because I was like, oh, well, this will kind of.
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So, like, I was like, you know what I'm going to do is get all these followers and sell them
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It's like, yeah, you don't know where the next social media platform is going to come.
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And there's a lot of artists out there who are like, man, maybe I don't find my way with
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But there could be one about to be invented that's going to be the one that fits you.
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There's always something, because what does it start with?
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Dude, remember they also had, like, Friends, or they had some other weird things that.
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And it was only where people would, like, lip sync to songs.
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And I remember seeing it, and I was like, man, this is a weird platform.
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And they rebranded, and it was the hugest thing ever.
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That was the original version of TikTok was that thing.
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I had, like, a secret account there, like a Finsta account or whatever, and I would
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go and do these duets with these Japanese people.
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It's a lot of Asian singers on there, and there was always duets.
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You could do it any time of the day with people from around the world.
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So TikTok was another, I guess, its own company.
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When you have a B flat or whatever that is in your word of your name, dude, that's
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Because I remember when it came out, I was like, man, this is, like, brutal, dude.
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For anybody who had the app already, musically, it just became TikTok.
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Like, I remember it was an old app on my phone.
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Well, now, is it hard to make more, is it hard, like, once you've had, you've had, you've
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been real fortunate and had a great career, right?
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Anybody who gets, yeah, it's like you get, obviously, there's a lot of good fortune that's
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But I've, dude, I've thought this a million times.
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I thought, before my last record come out, before the one before that came out, I'm
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like, dude, this is as, like, the best I'll ever be, dude.
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And, like, I, everything I do from here out is just going to be bad.
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And it's like, I don't know why, like, it's human nature to some extent.
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Like, cause then, like, when I put my last record out and then the fast car thing happened,
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Like, it was not, never in a million years that I think, what will be the biggest song of your
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whole career, definitely wouldn't have, cover a fast car would not have been on the list.
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Not because I didn't love that song, but, like, I really recorded it on kind of a whim because
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And so, sometimes those decisions can be the best decisions, you know?
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But I do think, I'm like, man, well, you know, I mean, I'm sitting here right now and
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I could tell you that today I've, at some point, mulled over my, what happens next or what's
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my next thing, and God's like, nobody cares, dude, and if I don't do this thing, then nobody's
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And I'm just like, bro, I'm going to be playing for 120,000 people this weekend, and I'm still
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And it's just like, I have to, like, remind myself all the time of, like, if I try to have
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this conversation with myself is if I had the thought processes that I go over with myself
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in my head now, if I had them with myself 10 years ago, what would myself 10 years ago say?
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Because this will be my 10th year in Nashville in September.
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And so, I go, man, well, I, you know, nobody cares if I post this Instagram story and it
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only gets, only 150,000 people liked it, which is insane, an insane thought process.
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But it's like, but you, that's what I think to myself today, and I base, like, well, did
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And if you feel like it wasn't, then suddenly you're not good.
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But, dude, 10 years ago, 150,000 people had never even heard of me before, ever, dude.
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So, and then again, I'm like, also, I got two little kids at home, and I'm like, my oldest
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Oh, so he definitely is probably still eating for free over there, huh?
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Yeah, he's not pulling his weight at all, dude, it's brutal, you know, the guy's got
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I love, I know how there's a lot of play pins for children, but how about a work pin?
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It could just be, like, things that could be considered play.
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But how do we get, like, chainmail gloves on so that they don't hurt themselves?
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So you can have a Game of Thrones Halloween costume on that.
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Dude, I remember I went to, oh, Marilyn Manson was the first show that I ever went to.
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Yeah, like, you can't really think of, like, somebody being behind that guy with a trumpet.
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Oh, so this is like, there's a whole, there's kind of a persona to the band as well then,
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The whole band was, I think, semi-deceased or whatever is what they were going for.
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By the way, we got to trademark all these, dude.
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And there's mosh pit training if you show up a half hour early, bro.
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Dude, my buddy used to referee mosh pits and he would give him, like, 50 bucks a night
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He's just, like, he was the guy that's, like, but he wasn't, like, don't hurt this guy.
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No, he was, like, once the mosh pit got going, he would kind of cruise in and out of it,
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kind of, like, keeping things cool, whistle, sometimes a little flashlight.
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It'd be sick to have a guy in there that's just, like, you get a couple, like, lesser-known
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UFC guys, and you just kind of put him in the crowd, and you're, like, dude, just wreck
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You know what I'm, like, if some guy's out of hand, just flatline this dude, right, in
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Everyone's, like, man, we should chill a little bit, you know?
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Yes, just make, just become your own policeman.
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Oh, that guy didn't like some of the other guy's behavior.
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So, that guy was, in theory, what your friend was, what I just said.
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You go in and just jaw a guy and make an example out of somebody.
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That seems underpaid for that thing a little bit, dude.
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I think, yeah, we probably, they might have been some, some fiscal discrepancies over there.
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I don't even know if I've even asked you anything.
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I mean, Fathers and Sons, your new album is coming up.
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It's like, you know, it's crazy to like, it's like for the sake of what it is, like not having
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Is it, you know, when you put out a new album, does it, how tough is it to like, cause like,
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you know what your fans like kind of are people that come to see you have a general idea.
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Is it spooky to like try and change that, but also evolve for yourself?
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And then like, who am I even becoming like that sort of thing?
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And I think about that a lot, you know, going back to when we were talking a little bit
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ago, like, what do you think about yourself or your career?
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And it's, I've always, I've always said this to myself was like, I want to like grow up
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Like, you know, somebody that listened to me, that's been a fan of me.
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And I meet people that are like, dude, I was a fan, been a fan since the Vine days, dude.
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You know, like I meet, still meet people that say that.
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And so if you were a fan of mine, then let's say you were, even if you were 18, so you were
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You could be married with kids, whatever it is like, you know, and there's a huge part of
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me that, that I worry, like, well, will I age myself out?
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Like, am I, does anybody even want to hear songs about being a dad or whatever?
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But like, I also, I don't want to, you know, I felt like I could go get with, you know, I'm
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not the world's best writer, but I'm lucky to be friends with a lot of guys that are,
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And so I could go get in a room with them and write, you know, something like Beard in a
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Broke My Heart or, you know, When It Rains, It Pours.
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Like, I could try to recreate that time and time again.
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And I, sometimes I, like, I want to do that because I, selfishly, I'm like, well, that
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would make me this or that would give me another big song or whatever.
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But it's like, I've just been, you know, like I said, I've got, I've got two boys that
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So like, my life is dominated by the thoughts of like being there for them.
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And like, you know, I want to be their dad first.
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And so I, I, I had to like write this, I had to do this project because it's the only
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Like when I go get in the writing room and someone's like, man, let's write something
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And it's like, it's hard to like get in that mindset.
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Cause all the things I'm doing is like, dude, like grilling dogs and like, yeah.
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Like, but it's hard to like get in that, like the mindset of like, you know, yeah.
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You can't have tickle that kiddo and have it be, uh, you know, chainmail children.
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And this is going to turn into fundraiser for kids who have been abused.
00:31:31.780
Cause I sat one, uh, one day I was sitting with this guy that owns a management company,
00:31:36.120
um, for comedians and probably the biggest management company and he was saying, well,
00:31:40.860
you want to grow up with your fan base, you know, you want to, cause they're going to evolve.
00:31:45.280
And if you just stay like this, like not stay, but if you're kind of a, you know, they, they,
00:31:52.220
if you fail to evolve, then it can be, you're just, you're not going to, it can become stale.
00:31:57.200
It's like, it just becomes, okay, man, well, I've, you know, I mean, if, except for the
00:32:02.300
one guy that's eaten 10,000 Big Macs or whatever it is, you can't eat at every meal, dude.
00:32:07.400
I mean, not that they're not good, but you want a little something like the menu's got
00:32:11.880
to expand a little bit and not that you can't come back to the classics at some point.
00:32:19.400
I remember McFish and it, it always, is that the pre-filet of fish?
00:32:26.060
The second she ordered it, I was like, I don't even know her anymore.
00:32:42.560
Yeah, you were learning a new flavor of the week, dude.
00:32:47.560
But she would like get us to be quiet and then she would order the McFish and I would
00:32:51.020
be like, nobody cares if we're loud while you order it.
00:33:02.220
The people at the window will think we have class if you guys aren't screaming while I
00:33:08.560
That right there, Luke, that is exactly who my mother is.
00:33:22.720
Little Theodore will have a junior children's meal.
00:33:31.860
She's definitely not a shit ass who stole a bike last week for sure.
00:33:42.580
They're like, now is that wild caught or is that farm raised?
00:34:06.600
Look, Luke, this is probably legitimate information.
00:34:10.360
Um, our fish sandwich recipe features a crispy fish filet patty.
00:34:22.480
That's like saying, dude, this ribeye steak, that's now a hamburger, though.
00:34:34.200
It says wild caught Alaskan Pollock on melty American cheese and is topped with creamy McDonald's
00:34:41.900
Next guest for the show needs to be a guy that works on the McDonald's fishing vessel.
00:35:02.720
Like, can we find the guy that caught my filet fish, dude?
00:35:13.400
The salty dog, dude, that caught that McFish, dude, is out there, man.
00:35:18.360
Well, I believe that the guy's ever been to Alaska.
00:35:27.200
I don't even know what we've talked about so far.
00:35:38.600
I remember hearing you talk before on Joe Rogan that your family had moved to.
00:35:46.960
I mean, it's been, it's been an adjustment for them.
00:35:49.460
You know, I mean, we, you know, I, we, most of my life lived in Asheville.
00:35:58.640
That whole town is just, and also the hillside, you could like, just roll off of a building
00:36:06.860
And it's, it's, but it was an adjustment period for, especially my dad.
00:36:11.800
Like, I mean, all his buddies live there and, you know, but it's, I remember a buddy of
00:36:17.380
mine telling me, you know, I think it's just, you know, it's the, it's the, like this whole
00:36:22.640
dad's project is just all these different thought processes that happen with, you know,
00:36:27.200
excuse me, the way my dad sees things and the way that I see things now and the way
00:36:33.520
I see things, maybe what was his perspective when he was doing this with me or, you know,
00:36:39.800
what are my kids going to think about me or how am I going to be remembered by them?
00:36:43.320
And I remember a friend of mine who wrote on this project with me, he was telling me
00:36:48.260
it was his dad's 70th birthday recently and he called his dad and he was like, well, you
00:36:56.440
You know, and he said, well, ain't no way around it, pal.
00:37:01.240
And I just remember being like, God, like what a thought, like what a like, and it was
00:37:07.780
just like, I remember like ever, I've never forgot that quote and because, you know, I
00:37:14.300
think that a lot of the, you know, the struggles that, you know, my, my dad had come in here
00:37:19.400
or it was a combination of like, okay, well he's moving on from, you know, they lived in
00:37:24.360
Nashville for 25 some years, dude, in the same house and like raised me there and all
00:37:29.100
these memories that are left behind and friends that are left behind and everything that you
00:37:34.200
And then also coming to terms with the fact that you, that you, you yourself are aging
00:37:39.460
and kind of like maybe that, that fear of what's next or, you know, how long do you have?
00:37:45.600
Like, I can't imagine what that process is like, but that quote stuck with me.
00:37:49.120
Did your relationship with your dad change after you had boys, you have two boys?
00:37:54.420
And yeah, man, it became, you know, I had a lot more, um, I had a lot more understanding
00:38:01.180
and grace for, you know, decisions that, that he made or, you know, things that maybe I
00:38:13.760
Like, you know, and I've had friends in the last couple of years that have lost their dads
00:38:19.760
And it's just all, it's just this constant theme of like, that's where we are in life.
00:38:24.080
Like we're at this weird, like kind of turnover point where like people begin to lose their
00:38:29.280
parents and then you are, you like soon you will be the oldest man in your family, which
00:38:37.040
is a scary thought, even though I'm only 34, but like, you're like, okay, well, if I'm 40,
00:38:43.280
am I like, I'm the oldest generation of maybe man that my children will know.
00:38:51.960
You know, it's just like, it's a strange, it's a strange, strange time for sure.
00:38:56.720
In a good way, but it's just, yeah, there's so many little phases you go through.
00:39:00.840
Like, like you, you know, you could be a son, a brother, an uncle, a dad, a grandpa, you
00:39:07.240
know, there's all like these little roles and stuff that you have.
00:39:10.340
And yeah, getting older, like almost all my friends have children except me.
00:39:14.840
I was like, I got to get some damn children, but you can't just be yelling that off your
00:39:19.880
So you got to actually have a game plan too and get a spouse.
00:39:28.120
You know, it'd be a good start, good jumping off point.
00:39:32.100
I think, you know, um, what were some of the songs I listened to, uh, Front Door Famous.
00:39:38.860
That one made me, that one made me really like feel something, you know?
00:39:44.300
It turned out we could, you know, I cut the record live.
00:39:46.380
So it was just like, we just cut it on the floor.
00:39:54.960
And so when you say cut it live, like what does that term mean?
00:39:57.220
So like, we would just like, well, let's say we're in a room like this and it's almost
00:40:01.720
set up like a show in the studio and then they just hit record and play the whole thing
00:40:09.080
You know, we did that twice for each song and then they went, okay, well this one's better
00:40:14.340
So it's just, there's no, like when we normally make a record, you know, it's not,
00:40:21.680
So like, I think you'd have to fact check me on this, but like, I don't think in some
00:40:26.580
ways that Stapleton gets the credit he deserves because he records all of his records like that.
00:40:33.620
Like you have to be, the artist has to be so dialed in.
00:40:37.740
Obviously the musicians are unbelievable anyways.
00:40:43.720
Or, or, and if you mess up, it's like, well, we got to do another take now.
00:40:46.700
It's not like, there's no stopping and starting.
00:40:54.560
Like, you know, and I would do every record if I could like that.
00:41:03.800
Like, Hey man, like I gotta like bring something to this take, dude.
00:41:06.580
Like it's not another sing this line six times.
00:41:14.020
And I'm not, I mean, with the Stapletons of the world, like it separates the, the, you
00:41:20.340
Like if every record had to be recorded like that, a lot of your favorite artists would
00:41:26.560
Like it just, it takes such a level of talent and I'm not saying that I have that.
00:41:31.640
I don't want to sound like that, but when you look at the criticism of the world and
00:41:36.880
And I mean, the studio musicians deserve so much credit, dude.
00:41:41.660
I mean, it is unreal how good those guys are, man.
00:41:46.480
I never been a studio musician, but it looks insanely hard.
00:41:50.600
And it's really, it's a lot of the best people in the world.
00:41:53.700
I would say, yeah, a lot of the best musicians in the world live in Nashville.
00:41:58.960
And not just country singers, we're talking bass players, guitar players, drummers.
00:42:03.500
And it's like a lot of them are guys that unless you live in that super niche community,
00:42:10.460
Some of the best drummers in the world, you've never heard of them, but they play on every
00:42:16.880
It's really kind of wild the limitedness that we usually know about like the people on stage
00:42:24.240
And even like my guys in my band, like they're not even the guys playing on the records, dude.
00:42:32.180
The session players are a whole different thing than the studio guys.
00:42:36.080
Not that those guys couldn't be both if they chose to.
00:42:38.720
But most of the best session players are just session players.
00:42:42.340
I mean, they go, and dude, they're, I'm talking, you would just blow your mind.
00:42:46.700
Like your favorite drummer's favorite drummer is a session player.
00:42:51.100
Your favorite bass player's favorite bass player is a session player.
00:42:54.240
Like, and those guys are just under thought of.
00:42:56.580
Like if you go looked at the credits of any country album for the last 10 years, like
00:43:01.880
who's playing fiddle or who's playing dobro, it's the same three, four cats.
00:43:07.900
Any instrument, I mean, there's three, four guys of any instrument that's like, that's
00:43:17.680
God, we should have gotten into a different trade.
00:43:25.260
Yeah, so, yeah, I guess being like a parent, it's like, you get to see like where all your
00:43:30.280
parents, like just things that they didn't do or that they couldn't do, it makes a lot
00:43:34.220
Yeah, I mean, there's so many things where you go, you know, you think when you're a
00:43:38.320
kid, right, or my mom or my dad did this thing and I would never do that.
00:43:42.580
You know, I wouldn't ever do that to my kids or whatever.
00:43:45.040
And, you know, sometimes those things end up being like, yeah, man, I still would never
00:43:55.080
Like it, to me, it unlocks this, some, at least for me, it did, you know, it unlocks
00:44:02.240
some part of your brain that's inaccessible in some ways.
00:44:05.920
Like once the kid that's happened, dude, it's this whole new level of like caring about
00:44:11.900
something or loving something that's like, you know, it's not the same way you love your
00:44:28.760
You hear about, well, you wait to how fast it goes and, you know, you just, you're going
00:44:41.040
It's like when, and all their cliches cause they, people say them all the time cause
00:44:51.220
Like, cause I'm on this tour right now and you know, people are like, and I, it's no fault
00:44:57.560
to anybody, but they, a lot of people don't really know what touring is like.
00:45:01.460
So they kind of assume like, what is, why do you ever see your kids?
00:45:08.520
And I'm like, dude, I'm home more days a week than I'm gone or the same amount.
00:45:13.740
Like I'm home like three and a half days a week.
00:45:17.240
So that's more than most people that work 40 hours a day get to spend.
00:45:23.820
So like I get to, but it's such a weird juxtaposition to go from, you go out, let's
00:45:32.920
And you play a two nights in the same stadium, dude.
00:45:40.720
I mean, we live in a two bedroom, two bathroom house.
00:45:50.720
So they just come in and just take the place over.
00:45:54.020
Dude, that would be the best tour you could have if you had a kids eat free tour.
00:45:57.300
But dude, sponsored by Ryan's Buffet or Golden Crow, either one.
00:46:06.040
What's the farthest somebody can hum a McNugget and another kid catch?
00:46:13.260
Like a beer Olympics, but it's Buffet Olympics.
00:46:17.780
There's something so American about seeing a McNugget go through the air.
00:46:23.160
Maybe you could jam like a hundred in a t-shirt cannon and just blast McNuggets out into the
00:46:40.480
I think if people, if it gets so bad where people can't afford to eat or whatever, then
00:47:00.420
Could you even imagine what a huge buffet would be like at a fricking...
00:47:07.180
Like the world's longest buffet, you know, is it like...
00:47:16.300
I'm going to guess probably in like a Midwest, somewhere in the Midwest.
00:47:26.740
I'm going to go with a little bit more of the orange Midwest.
00:47:53.980
It's in 1962, under Maple Tree, Mr. and Miss Henry Martin sold produce along the road.
00:48:00.360
That was the beginning of the Shady Maple Farm Market, according to Shady Maple.
00:48:05.160
The largest buffet in Lancaster County, Pennsylvania.
00:48:13.180
There used to be a smorgasbord in Hermitage when I lived out there.
00:48:29.580
But I believe a smorgasbord means there's a lot of different kinds of food in one place.
00:48:46.880
Self-service luncheon or supper offering a large variety of foods and dishes.
00:49:10.800
I feel like everything you want to eat is just...
00:49:23.860
My first car I got was a purple Subaru Outback.
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A lady my mom worked at got a new car, and she gave my mom a deal on it.
00:49:44.620
It was much older than these versions you're looking at.
00:49:47.920
This is probably a 2000 and maybe a 99, 2001, 2000 type model.
00:50:03.320
Now, about three months after I got it, totaled it.
00:50:20.920
And then my parents got me a $500 Dodge Neon that had been previously totaled.
00:50:45.880
Me and my brother used to go sleep in it at night.
00:50:53.020
But also, yeah, it is crazy how they will sell you...
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In this country, they will sell you a previously totaled...
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Dude, I don't know if I was talking, just made me think of this, but two of my best friends, dude, are we play this game all the time called Are You Garbage?
00:54:55.800
They might need an internet check or it's like Are You Trash or something like that.
00:55:00.860
It's essentially just, hey, man, like if you're in a group of people, you go, hey, are you garbage?
00:55:08.100
So we've played this, but now we have a list going on our phone that's like hundreds of items long.
00:55:15.160
Because we played the game so much that we ran out of stuff.
00:55:21.520
So it's, oh, Shane Gillis has played Are You Garbage?
00:55:32.940
So it's really just, it provokes a conversation amongst friends.
00:55:38.340
Let's see, like, okay, like you take a tour of a factory.
00:55:49.740
Where you're like, if you, let me see this for a second.
00:55:59.820
If you're a guy, you're an industrial engineer.
00:56:04.660
If you're a guy, you might be one of the Wright brothers.
00:56:14.120
But yeah, if you're a woman and you're indoors, that's a. . .
00:56:16.340
Like having crackers as like a topping on like a. . .
00:56:24.180
If you've ever crumpled up a couple of crackers.
00:56:27.100
And that's like your topping on top of your. . .
00:56:49.320
So it's like trash to like buying merch from a gas station.
00:56:52.920
Like if you buy like a clothing item from a gas station.
00:57:02.060
You were like, man, I bet they got something nice in here.
00:57:05.880
I've never hit a Loves for a spring collection.
00:57:08.120
There's a guy that's unironically thumbing through the shirts.
00:57:13.680
You know, like he's thinking like these are pretty fire shirts, dude.
00:57:20.560
They're like, oh, this shirt goes with that statue.
00:57:52.300
The bathtub or a sink at a hotel like as a cooler.
00:58:25.040
Well, it was pretty much semi-beautiful probably.
00:58:28.000
And somebody had stole the passenger seat out of it, right?
00:58:33.180
Or when you got it, it had already been thieved.
00:58:36.420
When I got the vehicle, I had it for like three days and somebody stole it.
00:58:54.380
Hey, I forgot my wife told me not to sell me the seat.
00:58:56.720
Hey, we had our first kid on that seat, and she told me not to hunt.
00:59:12.300
Like what's the most accurate representation on it?
00:59:21.200
Dude, I love how this too clean 1984 Ford Escort, dude.
00:59:27.600
I'm saying a hard top like there was any other top on that bitch, dude.
00:59:35.720
Go buy an 84 Escort and chop the top off of it, dude.
00:59:40.220
No, I think it's supposed to have the top on it so you can get safely to school.
00:59:45.160
That's what I did in it, but somebody stole my passenger seat I had for three days.
00:59:49.680
So then the crazy part was you go pick a girl up and they get in the car.
00:59:53.440
But they had to get in the back through the front like it only had. . .
00:59:59.400
Well, at least you didn't have to flip the seat up.
01:00:03.100
But then if somebody wanted to be right by you, they'd have to get right on their knees.
01:00:07.740
But it's like built-in like lounger, though, kind of.
01:00:25.960
And then one time it got T-boned outside of this, I think, place called Isidore's or something.
01:00:48.700
And then after that, I was dating this cute girl.
01:00:51.040
But every time I'd go to her house, I would try to hide the car at an angle.
01:00:56.380
Where like almost the angle she'd walked and get in, she wouldn't really be able to see all the damage.
01:01:01.600
My neon used to, when I would stop, the radiator would leak a little bit.
01:01:07.380
So like if I wasn't driving, like the radiator, like there was a lit, it was like that, like kind of that rubberized like top on the radiator tube there.
01:01:18.180
And me and my dad, we tried to fix it a million times, but it would get so hot that like no matter what you put over it wouldn't stick.
01:01:25.280
Like all the best, like loctite, bond, and all that stuff, like the heat would get it.
01:01:33.760
And then that would get on like the engine block.
01:01:36.300
And so anytime I would stop, it would just smoke just a little bit, dude.
01:01:43.820
I was spending my last $2 buying fish tacos at, you know, Long John Silver's.
01:01:52.840
And then like, they're like, if there was anybody that you would see and you're in the drive-thru waiting to get your $2 tacos and your car's like smoking and they're like, dude, maybe.
01:02:04.360
And they look at you and you're 300 pounds, dude.
01:02:06.820
And they're like, probably shouldn't be getting these tacos, you know?
01:02:11.260
Like they're like, just fix the car, man, like dismiss a couple tacos, like you're going to be fine.
01:02:16.360
At a certain point, dude, you got to look at the scale of justice.
01:02:30.760
And you would see other people in the distance look over at us when she ordered it and shit.
01:02:40.060
It seemed like they, I would say, yeah, it seemed like outdoor caught.
01:02:46.060
Out in, caught in nature would be like a better.
01:02:56.780
I'm like, I don't know if this is good fish or not.
01:03:07.500
I hadn't been, we hadn't been on like a real vacation.
01:03:09.820
And like me and the wife, I mean, we haven't gone on vacation.
01:03:17.540
Do they sleep in y'all's room, y'all's children?
01:03:19.200
No, we have, we just, the youngest one, he just left our room a month or two ago.
01:03:28.300
So it's, I mean, you know, if they were older, I think it'd be fun.
01:03:31.860
But I think now they're just kind of like, how can I keep the other one awake?
01:03:36.180
Like, even though they don't really know what they're doing or why they're doing it.
01:03:40.460
They just like, one of them's always making noise and the other one's like looking.
01:03:44.840
And like, our one's like, he can't even, like, he's just now able to kind of like
01:03:52.220
He's like in the crib and he's like trying to look at the other one because he's
01:03:59.600
It seems like a band that's on drugs or something.
01:04:04.720
To think back on it, you know, some of our guys have probably done some similar things
01:04:13.020
But it's, we haven't gone, I mean, we, gosh, man.
01:04:17.120
I mean, I've been, it feels like I've been all over the world in the last couple of
01:04:20.180
years, but like, that's just going on a vacation.
01:04:22.780
I know it's hard to find a spot and really get in and be like, all right, let's go do
01:04:27.120
Cause like, you know, vacation for me is like getting to just be home.
01:04:32.900
But then like my wife is home a lot with the kids and stuff.
01:04:36.660
So she does want to like, make, like get away and go somewhere and do something.
01:04:41.440
And it's like, you know, finding that time where, you know, I don't feel like I'm traveling
01:04:48.620
You know, it's just, it's a wild, it's a wild thing, man.
01:04:51.760
Right now we're just in this weird balance because of the kids right now.
01:04:58.600
Like, I mean, that's, that's the number one thing, dude.
01:05:01.960
I mean, there is no, you know, the kids don't care about the state.
01:05:08.520
Like, how do you know there's, there is a complaint box or is, yeah.
01:05:12.620
Do you guys like get an email every week from there?
01:05:19.620
If they're still, if they're still alive and kicking dude, at this point, you're doing
01:05:24.920
But there's not, there's not, there's not somebody that comes when they're like,
01:05:28.600
three years old and gives you like a performance review.
01:05:34.380
Well, you know what I, we were saying this when we had our first kid, we walked out of
01:05:37.020
the hospital and I'm like, dude, we had this kid two days ago and bro, I got to take a
01:05:46.560
And they're, they'll just give you a human life.
01:05:51.460
Don't matter who you are, what your background is.
01:05:58.340
They're just like, Hey man, like, you'll be good, man.
01:06:01.160
Like you'll people, your parents figured it out.
01:06:03.880
Especially if you want to mix kid, they'll just hand you one down there.
01:06:16.140
It's like, there is no, I, you know, I read all the like, well, how to be a good dad.
01:06:26.840
The wildest 18 years of your eight second life.
01:06:37.720
How, how parenting is like noodling, you know, it's like, yeah.
01:06:49.420
But the, the dad thing was, was really fun to do.
01:06:54.840
And, and do you start to think like, Hey, we got to get this third or fourth or fifth child
01:06:58.720
out of the way now, or do you start to strategize it?
01:07:02.120
Like, I mean, the deadlines for do feel looming, right?
01:07:05.040
Like if you want to have, you know, I mean, because every time you have a kid, it's like
01:07:09.600
it starts over like the whole, like, okay, well now.
01:07:12.660
It's like when we don't have kids is 18 years from now, now again.
01:07:22.840
Like a loving jail with other people you care about.
01:07:42.100
And we think about, it's like, well, how, you know, then you think about, well, how close
01:07:48.380
Like how, you know, how does it, where it's, what's tour look like next year?
01:07:53.220
Is it going to be extra busy or we have a light year?
01:07:58.060
Because at the end of the day, you're talking about, like, potentially, like, a person.
01:08:04.680
Doing, like, though I have an entire life, you know?
01:08:09.200
I often wonder, you know, I often, I often, not fantasize is the wrong word, but, like,
01:08:15.400
think about, you know, it just being, like, being, like, my kids' parents is, like,
01:08:21.900
I almost worry about them, like, finding out what I do in some ways.
01:08:28.160
Like, we have, like, put on a nice vinyl, you know, dancing a living room.
01:08:32.120
Wouldn't that be great if that's what you meant?
01:08:39.560
Yeah, I'll dance for their mother in the evening sometimes.
01:08:46.880
I wonder how kids, you know, because it is so tough.
01:08:49.140
I don't know if you see so many kids that are somehow traumatized or face some sort
01:08:53.320
of, like, just the byproduct of their parents being in the limelight, especially maybe in,
01:09:00.100
I don't know if especially in music, maybe not especially, but just in the limelight.
01:09:03.320
Yeah, I think about it a lot, you know, because I go, you know, I don't, like, and it's going
01:09:10.660
It's like you almost wish they could just not know in some ways.
01:09:17.560
It's like, I almost just want them to be, like, naive to the whole thing for as long
01:09:24.560
Like, I want them to, the only thing they're worried about is, like, riding bikes and playing
01:09:28.780
trucks and, you know, riding around on the Polaris with mom and dad.
01:09:33.400
I don't, but there gets to a point, like, you know, as soon as, like, school is looming,
01:09:37.460
like, you know, I've got some other artist buddies that have kids and they're like, well,
01:09:41.180
you got to tell them or somebody else is going to tell them.
01:09:43.500
Like, it's almost like telling your kids there's no Santa.
01:09:53.240
And it's like, I don't want them to, like, ever, I don't want my kids to ever think of
01:10:03.580
The last couple of albums were just garbage, dude.
01:10:05.980
Once he had us, they just, you know, they just really stunk.
01:10:09.360
Dude, imagine if that happened to a kid where their dads, their sales weren't as good after
01:10:15.920
And they were like, we have the, me and my buddies have the golf theory, dude.
01:10:26.900
But it's once, like, the great golfers, once they have kids, it gets harder to maintain,
01:10:34.320
like, because the amount of, like, practice and stuff that they have to do.
01:10:38.200
I mean, I don't, I know next to nothing about being a professional golfer, by the way.
01:10:41.920
This is just a guy who watches golf and, like, wishes that he could do golf.
01:10:46.920
I always pretend, like, something came up and my friend's asking to go play golf or something.
01:11:04.600
Want to just practice them for the big, big game in November.
01:11:08.240
You know, like, I was having a practice Super Bowl party tonight, so I actually can't.
01:11:12.920
I wanted to make sure the Super Bowl party would be good, but it's not.
01:11:18.340
Did you, did you have, have you played the Super Bowl yet?
01:11:23.620
There hasn't been a country artist in the Super Bowl.
01:11:32.520
I believe it's Clint Black, Travis Tritt, Shania, Tanya Tucker.
01:11:38.720
It was like a bunch of country artists that did like a big medley thing, I believe.
01:11:43.480
Now, there's been a bunch of artists that have done the anthem.
01:11:46.920
But as for the halftime show, there hasn't been one since, you'd have to look it up, the mid-90s.
01:11:57.340
The anthem, you mean like the actual halftime show.
01:12:13.660
Okay, so Shania was different than the, the other medley thing.
01:12:22.480
I would imagine that at some point, Taylor Swift has to do it at some point.
01:12:28.000
But I don't know if that would still be, I don't know if that would start as a considered
01:12:34.620
But like to think like a guy like Garth's never done it.
01:12:44.840
Have you gotten to spend much time at Garth ever?
01:12:52.580
Like I took my band out to see his, his show out in Vegas.
01:12:59.340
I was playing like a private event and it didn't start till like 1130 or something like super
01:13:06.900
And so, you know, we got to Vegas like in the morning.
01:13:12.940
So I start looking stuff up and I'm like, oh my gosh, Garth's playing and tonight is
01:13:17.920
So I'm like, and the band, like I told the band, I was like, I hit my manager up.
01:13:22.180
I was like, hit up Garth's folks and see if we can maybe get some tickets.
01:13:29.540
We got over there and dude, he came in and said, hey, to the band.
01:13:32.720
And like the band had no idea we were going to meet him at all.
01:13:35.920
Cause like some dude, my band guys are like, and it's a couple of them's from Oklahoma and
01:13:45.360
And, uh, but he came in and taught everybody and got us great seats.
01:13:48.920
They let us come in like, cause you know, those shows, they're like no phones or whatever.
01:13:52.640
I think like a lot of the Vegas stuff, you can't have your phone or something.
01:13:57.620
I think they don't want anybody having their phone to like see, so they can't like record
01:14:02.400
People sell it like streams, Vietnam, all kinds of stuff.
01:14:07.860
So they let us come in like right when the lights went down, they brought us in.
01:14:11.540
Cause like, I was like, Hey man, I want to come, but there's no, like at those theaters,
01:14:15.540
there's not really like suites or like backstage.
01:14:20.660
I'm like, Hey man, I just want to like come in, like just sit this thing and like, not,
01:14:26.680
Like I tell people, I'm like, man, I don't really like being the center of attention as
01:14:34.100
Like when people make like a big deal about me, like being at stuff and I'm just like,
01:14:40.640
Like I don't, I don't really try to not think about myself that way.
01:14:45.780
Cause if you start thinking about yourself that way, I think it's almost better to try and purposely
01:14:51.900
Almost like, let me add in some things that'd be, seem a little bit more normal.
01:14:55.720
You know, I've got this cyber truck and that was being kind of a nightmare cause it's fun
01:15:01.940
You know, I saw it and then I'll be hiding in it and I'm just, do you like it though?
01:15:17.400
Like you're literally, it feels like you'll put this, like you'll press the gas and you'll
01:15:25.640
And it, it's like instant torque in those things.
01:16:15.140
Because once you get to a certain level of just being known.
01:16:19.940
You can never kind of go back to some of those.
01:16:25.480
Sometimes it feels like you'll be able to go back.
01:17:26.880
I feel like sometimes the entertainment business can be that way.
01:17:40.820
There's something wonderful about sitting at home.
01:17:56.260
But it doesn't have the same look as if you're just.
01:18:05.100
You may be this way with like comedy and stuff.
01:19:22.840
You can never kind of go back to where you were.
01:23:32.720
Nobody's ever had so many people look like him at one time on one planet.
01:24:18.200
But there's a lot of people that are desperate to look like you as well.
01:24:37.800
Is this guys doing like a kind of a promo shot here?
01:25:07.220
You think that closeted Amish is such an interesting.
01:25:55.840
But they don't get autism in their communities.
01:26:08.920
I bet sneaking off and talking to a girl would be.
01:26:18.180
No conscious behaviors are considered the norm.
01:26:27.160
I mean I'm sure they're not allowed to have that.
01:26:45.320
There's this phantom ad that's playing right now dude.
01:27:20.680
But we're all tired from like Texas birthday and stuff.
01:27:23.820
Like you're tired from a two-year-old birthday.
01:27:30.240
I remember one time buying drugs at a one-year-old's birthday.
01:27:47.280
He'd fallen in with a couple two-and-a-half-year-olds.
01:28:04.460
One of those like CBD gum or something like that.
01:28:27.840
The kids were out like splashing around and stuff.
01:28:30.700
And I was wearing these like super dad, like moccasin shoes.
01:28:39.200
Like it's like, it's like walking on a like marble on the bottom of your feet or something.
01:28:44.860
Those always seem like you're not sure what this guy's going to be like when you see them.
01:28:48.120
And they're, dude, they're insanely comfortable, but it rained so much the last couple of days.
01:28:52.800
So my yard is like, this is, I mean, our house is from the, probably the sixties or something.
01:28:58.500
When they built the house, like there wasn't like the same kind of like grading, um, permitting that
01:29:05.240
So like the house kind of sits on this hill, but the back, it's just a small hill, but
01:29:10.120
the, the backyard is all kind of sloped down towards the house.
01:29:13.180
And then right before they built the house, there's just a little bit more of a slope as
01:29:18.220
to where now they would kind of have to grade it out and smooth it out.
01:29:21.920
So back then those bitches were a little choppy.
01:29:24.140
They were just like, whatever, just pop the house anywhere, you know?
01:29:27.000
And so I'm walking down in the moccasins and I was, my kid was in a splash pad, dude.
01:29:32.440
And he was like, we got him this little slide and we put him down there and he like, it
01:29:49.140
I'm in the moccasins and just, dude, both of my feet just go.
01:29:53.740
And I'm talking about, dude, I hit the ground like on my back.
01:29:57.700
So like the way the hill is like the flushest you could ever hit something.
01:30:01.680
It was like my entire back hit the ground at the same time.
01:30:06.320
And I was just like, I mean, I just remember sitting up and I just sat there and my, my
01:30:13.460
I'm just like, and my, I knew I was like, this could be serious.
01:30:23.160
Like you felt like it was just, we, I just kind of sat there for a second and was like,
01:30:26.980
and just kind of processed like, am I, is everything fine?
01:30:42.200
But it's kind of felt like getting like, you know, I played football in high school or
01:30:46.540
So it kind of felt like getting like just absolutely blindside blocked.
01:30:53.220
I mean, luckily the ground was soft cause it was so wet and stuff, but I had just hit
01:30:58.520
There's moments as an adult when you hit, when you get hurt and you're like, dang, you're
01:31:04.460
You're like, man, this is 15, 20 years from now.
01:31:12.780
Well, a lot of grandparents go missing, even if there's like just a slippery floor or whatever.
01:31:17.220
You have to get a skid steer out on me in a couple of years from now.
01:31:20.400
Dude, imagine somebody's opening a can of that.
01:31:22.640
What kind of peach is to make a pie or something.
01:31:49.740
I never, like yesterday was the, it was the first moment where I was like, I'm good.
01:31:55.500
But like, man, this could have been like, I'm not a good situation, dude.
01:32:17.640
Do you guys get some big requests for stuff like that all the time?
01:32:19.760
A lot of them are just like, people in the crowd will have like signs, like, do this
01:33:03.580
If you find out if your kid is going to be cool or not.
01:33:15.300
What if the kid, like, hated country music, like, later on in life?
01:33:22.920
And you're like, dude, I hate that guy's music.
01:33:35.560
At that time, we could be online doing gender reveals on cameo for people.
01:33:44.120
People do gender reveals on cameo all the time now.
01:33:46.740
I saw one where they got the guy, I feel like it was the lead singer of Sugar Ray, to, like, break up with their girlfriend for him.
01:34:16.940
A lot of people that is coming out of the closet now.
01:34:29.520
It is Mark McGrath from the band Sugar Ray, off the charts, but always in your hearts.
01:34:48.680
He looks like Buzz if Buzz got some facial reconstructive surgery, I feel like.
01:35:00.760
We can watch all the way through, but the news guys were just going to talk about it.
01:35:07.800
So a girl hires him to break up with her boyfriend.
01:35:15.940
I wonder if it was like his favorite band, too.
01:35:21.940
Was it like, dude, my boyfriend always loved Sugar Ray, so I'm hiring the lead singer to
01:35:27.560
Like, almost just to make him, like, hate the band or something?
01:35:34.880
And you could hire Doritos to break up with you?
01:35:36.220
And you could hire, like, Jerry Cool Ranch or whatever to break up with your girlfriend.
01:35:47.380
But, like, how did they decide on the lead singer, Sugar Ray?
01:35:54.900
Are you like, hey, I was going to do Hulk Hogan.
01:35:58.300
Right, I was going to do Hulk Hogan, but there's a sale over here.
01:36:03.380
Yeah, there's a sale at Sugar Ray for the next 30 minutes.
01:36:16.360
And now it's like, watch me ruin this lady's heart.
01:36:20.040
I love how he said, off the charts but forever in your hearts.
01:36:32.880
A lot of men, sometimes they'll look so beautiful they look like women sometimes, too.
01:36:40.880
Oh, he will be a hot chicken two or three years.
01:37:05.780
So is it, whenever you start a new album, do you then have to go tour it after?
01:37:11.220
I think traditionally that's how a lot of folks do it.
01:37:14.080
This album, it feels like, in a lot of ways, non-traditional in the sense of like, it started
01:37:20.540
out as just kind of this like, you know, wild idea of like, I had written a couple of these
01:37:28.860
And I was like, man, I feel like, you know, these three of these songs are really great.
01:37:34.260
But I was like, but I have to like, choose one if I'm going to do a record.
01:37:39.560
And then it's like, oh, there's like three or four dads.
01:37:44.300
And I was like, well, would it make sense to like, to do something that's, I don't want
01:37:55.060
Because like, it feels like that's too smart for something that I'm capable of doing.
01:37:59.040
Like, someone that makes a concept album to me is like a super genius level musician.
01:38:13.120
But it's just, I was like, well, if I made a whole record of just these songs, you know,
01:38:17.620
and then I got like, like a lot of my buddies, we're all the same age.
01:38:21.460
So, you know, they're, you know, they've got aging parents too.
01:38:24.940
And so all these themes are running through all of our lives.
01:38:27.200
And so they would start sending me little clips because, you know, they knew I had kids
01:38:31.920
And so they'd send me a star to something and I go, God, man, I really love that.
01:38:35.960
I'd love to like get together, work on that or whatever.
01:38:38.200
And next thing you know, I end up with, you know, a whole record full of these songs.
01:38:41.980
And I was like, we should just record these and like, just do a project that's just,
01:38:47.060
you know, so it's like, it's my next record, I guess.
01:38:50.620
But it also doesn't feel like my next record, if that makes sense.
01:38:54.400
Like, it's not like, if you want to listen to all my other records, it's not logically
01:39:01.340
the next step from like where you would think that it would go.
01:39:04.280
It's just kind of like where my life has taken me.
01:39:06.560
Like sonically, it's very, like I said, we recorded it live.
01:39:09.940
So it's very like, it's very traditional country sounding stuff.
01:39:24.840
I mean, I'm willing to listen to about maybe six or seven songs or something.
01:39:37.460
God, that song's, that's, that song's brutal, dude.
01:39:42.440
I've definitely, I've got some problems, but yes.
01:39:45.660
There's some good, there's some good ones on there, man.
01:39:47.620
Sometimes I think it's easier for people to leave than stay, man.
01:39:52.900
Some people, they just, they know they can't change themselves.
01:40:10.480
But yeah, when I was a kid, country music, they had this thing called Crying, Loving, or Leaving.
01:40:16.420
And you'd tell them if you were crying, they'd be like, are you crying, loving, or leaving?
01:40:21.400
And you had to tell what was happening in your life.
01:40:25.540
Yeah, Dorothy stole my car tires or whatever, right?
01:40:28.760
And then you'd be like, all right, well, you know, and you'd be like, I'm loving.
01:40:42.060
You'd call in there, and then they'd play some of them.
01:40:50.120
And you'd tell them, yeah, you'd be like, this is for Tiffany.
01:40:56.160
And you and Tiffany would be sitting there howling, laughing.
01:41:00.160
One of my favorites is the, some of my favorite radio skits is the John Cena one, dude.
01:41:07.840
Where he's just, they're spamming that lady with the, like, WWE pay-per-view.
01:41:51.100
No, there is not any chance in hell that we're ever going to have wrestling in this house again.
01:41:56.760
Because the husband called and said, hey, my wife, we bought this pay-per-view.
01:42:04.600
And goodbye to anyone standing in John Cena's way.
01:42:08.720
Dude, there's one they say, spit-swapping makeup, make-out match, dude.
01:42:20.500
It gets to the point where, at the end, they skip to, like.
01:42:52.320
Are you talking about the one where they fake being someone else or something?
01:42:56.680
And this lady, when she picks up, she's like, stop.
01:43:08.740
Like, these people had been calling me or whatever.
01:43:15.120
And she was like, because an American hero needs your help, dude.
01:43:29.800
That's the shorter version, but it's got this weird video.
01:43:32.000
Oh, the shorter version with one of those weird TikTok videos.
01:43:37.360
Like, it's just like a video of them playing Grand Theft Auto.
01:43:40.020
Yeah, it's like a video that's going along with videos.
01:43:43.160
It just keeps people engaged without them having to do anything.
01:43:53.360
You're like, watch this car bounce down the road, dude.
01:44:01.840
So at the start of this one is the audio of the, like, the fourth time they call her
01:44:07.820
when she's like, hey, do you support our troops or whatever?
01:44:17.660
I swear to Jesus, if this is those wrestling f***s again.
01:44:23.980
Hi, I'm just calling this morning to ask if you're a supporter of the United States military.
01:44:41.700
Because a former decorated member of the United States Marine Corps needs your support.
01:44:54.820
Dude, whoever did that prank, that's an elite level.
01:44:58.740
I guess at least no matter what, we could always just make TikToks, you know?
01:45:03.600
Yeah, because all we need is, like, stock video game.
01:45:06.320
Like, mod a video game and just do stock videos of a car, like, falling out of the sky.
01:45:12.700
Well, I've had a vision for years that it's going to come down to everybody's going to be in, like, gig economy, and people are going to be, like, holding each other at good point to be each other's Uber fares.
01:45:32.180
I always think of iRobot when they're just in the, like, the floating...
01:45:42.160
The Titanic, the, like, space Titanic, and they're all in the chairs with, like, the VR headsets on, and they just, they're all, like, 800 pounds.
01:45:51.660
And I was like, man, it's a terrifying potential reality for you.
01:45:54.880
You guys, do you guys use a lot of VR over at the house?
01:46:15.740
Dude, integrated reality muffin making, dude, is what it is.
01:46:21.380
You could just point at the muffins and they go into the oven.
01:46:28.680
Dude, that would be so nuts if we had a VR, like, if your whole life was VR.
01:46:40.820
But it seems like you can just play shitty games that they had on your cell phone like
01:46:44.620
That's the thing about Neuralink that seems so trash, too.
01:47:01.160
He's playing Mario Kart using a Neuralink brain implant.
01:47:06.580
I mean, he could just look at it and tell it what to do.
01:47:08.540
It's better than, like, not playing Mario Kart.
01:47:11.720
Because that's, like, the other option, I think, right?
01:47:18.900
You know, if you couldn't do anything, playing chess would be cooler than, like.
01:47:24.480
Not doing anything, I think, is the alternate version.
01:47:27.280
Yeah, but it seems like they just have a limited amount of games and stuff.
01:47:30.300
I don't know if I'd rather Neuralink or just get a PS5 or whatever.
01:47:38.180
You can, like, there's people, like, having their own, like, guys will get a VR and then
01:47:44.760
they'll have their own family inside of the VR world, even though they already have a family
01:47:50.100
I feel like people have already been doing that, but just in real life, people have been
01:47:57.540
Is it doing an even less admirable version of cheating in some way, dude?
01:48:03.820
If you could make cheating even less admirable, it would be that version of it.
01:48:08.360
Yeah, this dude's not even brave enough to go out there and fucking cheat and use a little
01:48:20.660
He's, like, he's just dialed in, dude, to the house.
01:48:28.140
It'd be like, what are you talking about, dude?
01:48:31.340
Somebody brought one out on the road recently, and that's maybe been last year or something,
01:48:36.960
We had a bunch of our crew guys popped it on or whatever, and it was like, you would
01:48:41.020
get, so essentially you'd stand in this, you know, just any room or whatever, I guess.
01:48:48.540
So you have to, like, you have the, like, thing, and you hit this button on, like, the
01:48:53.880
elevator, and you get in the elevator, and then when the door opens, you're, like, at
01:49:00.600
Like, when you open, it's just the skyscraper, and there's a wooden plank that comes out.
01:49:13.380
Yeah, you can turn a fan on and get maybe the wind effect, you know?
01:49:16.380
So, but, dude, like, you, so physically in the VR, like, you have to, like, step out
01:49:22.680
onto the plank, like, and you obviously, you know, you're just, like, in a room.
01:49:30.160
Like, half the guys, like, wouldn't get out of the elevator.
01:49:33.860
And then we had one guy, my buddy Hart just went out to the end, and he was looking down,
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If people, yeah, some people in VR are totally people that they can't be in real life.
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Like, they should have said VR Amish or VR, um, Starving.
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Dude, you have to actually learn Pennsylvania Dutch to play the game.
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See if there's any, uh, a lot of times they have fresh eggs.
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Bro, you think you can be Amish in, what, 15 minutes?
01:50:36.080
Dude, yeah, if I meet one more guy who wants to be Amish quickly, I'm going to-
01:50:50.760
But the thing about being Amish, dude, imagine, bro, you get to sneak off all the time and
01:50:57.760
Because you can't date, I don't think, until you're 30 or what?
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No, dude, that can't be right, because they have a bunch of kids.
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That is like, how did they survive this long, dude?
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They always stand like they're completely naked.
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Yeah, you look like you're going to get, I feel like they always think you're about to
01:51:51.720
Like, I just turned it, and it just scrolled like 8 billion pictures of your phone, dude.
01:51:55.880
Yeah, there's a lot of alarming stuff on people's phones.
01:51:58.900
This says, dating among the Amish typically begins around age 16, with most Amish couples
01:52:05.340
To find a prospective date, the young adults socialize at functions such as frolics.
01:52:20.620
One of the most popular activities is the Sunday night singing, dude.
01:52:30.680
They would get out the churn and get you out there.
01:52:50.640
The buggies were lined up for an Amish singing in Bell Center, Ohio.
01:52:53.940
We happened to be camping, and we're out enjoying an evening drive.
01:52:57.320
All of a sudden, we started seeing buggies coming from all directions, and we saw them
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They are a state of Amish youth culture Sunday evening singings.
01:53:14.380
This is often where teenagers meet their future mates, make friends, and just have
01:53:29.880
But I remember, dude, when I was growing up, we grew up in a pretty small town, so it
01:53:33.160
was like, you knew you were probably going to have to marry somebody in town.
01:53:38.560
And they would even tell us that in school, I remember, when we were in, like, second
01:53:41.780
You're probably going to marry somebody in here.
01:53:46.780
You can look at some of them, but you guys are...
01:54:04.060
Do you manage your tours differently as time goes on, where you're like, okay, I want
01:54:10.340
Or do you choose that, or how do you guys put that together?
01:54:14.120
We've always had a long strategy on how do we, you know, how do we maximize this or
01:54:21.180
You know, playing overseas was always a big goal for us.
01:54:23.500
Like, playing overseas consistently to the point where we feel like we had really fostered
01:54:29.780
a fan base that could almost be self-sustaining in the sense of, like, you know, you could
01:54:37.100
One year, you could just go tour in Europe and then never plenty shows in the States.
01:54:45.680
Like, if you go see me, you know, if I play every summer in, you know, Tallahassee, well,
01:54:52.860
it's like, if that happens five or six years in a row, like, eventually, everybody in that
01:54:57.200
market's going to be like, well, I've seen that, dude.
01:54:59.420
So the idea is if I play, I don't know why I picked Tallahassee as such a random city.
01:55:05.260
I don't even know if we've ever even played there before.
01:55:07.500
But if, like, if you pick that city and we played there, let's say I played there in
01:55:14.520
And then let's say, obviously, that's a weird year because COVID happens or whatever, but
01:55:22.740
And then the next time I'm going to play there is not till 2024.
01:55:26.580
So in those three years, so much will have happened in my career.
01:55:31.100
Where I could have maybe two new albums, a bunch more hit songs, and those people in
01:55:37.700
that market, they'll have only had the opportunity to see me the time before.
01:55:42.680
So they'll go, well, now I want to hear this song and this song and this song.
01:55:45.800
And, like, he never comes down here, so I want to go.
01:55:48.620
Like, I just want to be able to tour at a high level for a long time.
01:55:54.100
And I think to do that, you have to have a really long play strategy.
01:55:57.500
It can't be about, well, how can I make the most money this show this weekend and charge
01:56:02.540
my fans the most for tickets and do the most and sell VIP things?
01:56:06.120
Like, I've never sold a meet and greet in my life.
01:56:08.520
Like, that's a big point of revenue for a lot of artists is, and nothing against anybody
01:56:16.860
The first meet and greets I ever did were $50, and we donated all the money to a camp
01:56:23.940
Ever since then, we've never even charged for a meet and greet.
01:56:26.580
All you have to do is join the fan club and have tickets to the show, and you're entered
01:56:34.020
Yeah, like, so you join the fan club, and then you just put in for whatever show you're
01:56:41.620
I come in the room, like, do a Q&A thing, take pictures with everybody, like, and I just
01:56:47.500
feel like there's so much to already, like, pay for.
01:56:51.380
There's so, like, there's T-shirts, there's beer, there's food, there's parking, there's
01:56:55.800
hotels, there's babysitters, there's tickets, there's everything, dude.
01:57:01.360
And the whole experience, and, like, I just want to meet people who came to the show,
01:57:06.260
man, like, whether it's their first show or their 15th show or whatever it is, man,
01:57:10.680
like, it's just a way for me to, like, I just want to say thank you to just regular
01:57:14.920
folks who come to my show, man, like, because they are the only reason that we have shows.
01:57:19.680
Like, oh, it's crazy to think that you can't figure out a way to thank them all the time.
01:57:25.720
And then, like, it really is, like, I think about it all the time, it's like, you know,
01:57:30.360
sometimes I feel like the fan is the last person thought about it in the music business.
01:57:37.040
Well, they just started, they're finally bringing sanctions against Live Nation, I think.
01:57:45.500
They're finally bringing sanctions against them or Ticketmaster, one of them.
01:57:49.160
Yeah, I saw something about this on the news, like, two, three years ago, but I don't know
01:57:53.020
But there's definitely, you're definitely right.
01:57:56.900
Yeah, the Justice Department is suing Ticketmaster on Live Nation.
01:58:02.560
Is it for, like, the fees or something, I think?
01:58:06.120
The Justice Department on Thursday accused Live Nation of engaging in a slew of practices
01:58:09.700
that have allowed it to maintain a stronghold over the live music scene.
01:58:12.340
They accused it of using long-term contracts to keep venues from choosing rival ticketers,
01:58:16.100
blocking venues from using multiple ticket sellers, and threatening venues that they
01:58:20.840
could lose money and fans if they didn't choose Ticketmaster.
01:58:25.580
Which, in the end, they can jack up the prices of tickets in.
01:58:36.740
It just seems like they wouldn't let that happen.
01:58:44.500
So my best friend, Harp, the guy that jumped off the end, that's his, like, favorite band
01:59:06.880
Yeah, it just seemed like you were being so lazy back then.
01:59:10.240
Didn't you want to make grilled cheeses and own a German Shepherd?
01:59:13.440
I wanted to sell seashell earrings out of my van, dude.
01:59:17.420
Dude, one time this dude was selling grilled cheeses and the dog looked like it wanted out
01:59:23.600
It was like, yeah, it lives in a, it probably never gets any grilled cheese, by the way.
01:59:29.980
The dog, I think, was running on a little treadmill, even just powering the grilled cheese maker.
01:59:33.440
They're like, sometimes those van guys in those outside of concerts are pretty wild.
01:59:40.980
Do some artists have like a big tailgate thing that that's part of their culture?
01:59:45.560
You know, we do, gosh, we do a big tailgate on, like, this weekend we have, or this year,
01:59:52.220
we have Friday and Saturday shows at all the same cities.
01:59:55.260
So, on Saturday we have, you've heard of Whiskey Jam, I'm sure.
01:59:59.660
So, Ward and the Whiskey Jam folks come out and they bring up and coming artists out.
02:00:04.480
We have a stage outside the stadium and all that's free.
02:00:08.860
So, I mean, you don't really don't even have to have a ticket to the show to come to that
02:00:13.380
So, on Saturdays, man, like, we really try to, we've worked hard to, like, build, to,
02:00:18.220
like, foster the culture of our shows and how we want that experience to be for our fans.
02:00:24.360
Like, I mean, the whole weekend, like, they get discounts at certain hotels if they're
02:00:30.340
And, like, we work with all these different people to make them have, yeah, like, to make
02:00:35.520
them have the best experience that we can have, you know.
02:00:38.400
And so, yeah, the tailgating thing, dude, I mean, obviously, the Chesney tailgate culture
02:00:48.460
We went out, you know, but I think country has such a great, just in general, kind of
02:00:54.880
Because I think a lot of those fans, like, I think of, like, the college football fan
02:00:59.860
base, to me, like, there's so much, there's so much correlation in the country music fan
02:01:14.880
It's like, the night we were in Miami, I was with Caleb, actually, who your buddy's
02:01:19.020
And we were going to some club, but then we had more fun in the car on the way there,
02:01:26.460
And then we got to the club, and we're like, this sucks.
02:01:43.000
He seems like somebody who would be lying about that.
02:01:55.560
Like, he was, I think I was a senior, and he was a freshman, I think.
02:02:00.740
And what was he, like the Rapunzel of the team?
02:02:03.560
Well, he was like the guy, like, if eight quarterbacks got hurt.
02:02:11.360
And then he could show up to the game, kind of thing.
02:02:16.180
But we, dude, but I rode the pine hard, and obviously he wasn't playing because, you
02:02:24.860
But did you, um, did, were you any good at football?
02:02:35.040
But, dude, I was too busy singing all the time, dude.
02:02:38.120
I mean, I was in choir every day of high school for, I mean, every day of public school
02:02:42.580
from sixth grade to when I graduated, I was in chorus class every day.
02:02:45.880
And did you ever, uh, integrate or try and date women that were on the flag team?
02:02:56.520
Wouldn't y'all have, like, a local military or anything?
02:03:20.820
You're honestly going to tell me, Luke, that a lot of ROTC men aren't the children of.
02:03:36.680
Yeah, I think there's a possibility that there could be some correlation there, you know?
02:03:59.880
I hope people enjoy it, you know, for what it is, you know?
02:04:03.300
Well, it's important, too, for people to take time, if you can, to reflect on those relationships.
02:04:07.840
Sometimes you get so busy, you don't even think about what somebody means to you.
02:04:12.020
It's important stuff, man, and I think, you know, there's so many different paths that
02:04:17.140
people have had growing up with their dads, or their moms, even, you know what I mean?
02:04:21.800
I think there's something in these songs that, you know, can translate to anybody, you know?
02:04:26.280
It just happens to be Fathers and Sons for me, because, you know, I got two boys, and,
02:04:30.780
you know, maybe that changes one day, and there'll be mothers and fathers.
02:04:41.940
The songs mean a lot to me, and I think, you know, I hope that people can relate to
02:04:47.400
them and listen to them and love them as much as I do, for sure.
02:04:52.300
It's important to have anthems that go along with how we feel sometimes.
02:05:04.020
Before you go, do artists start thinking more about collaborations now these days?
02:05:07.380
Does that seem like something that goes through phases where it seems more fun or more accepted
02:05:15.320
I think I've noticed that a lot of brands are doing collaborations now, too, like, I don't
02:05:21.360
know, like the McDonald's and Long John Silver's, the McFish.
02:05:28.520
Yeah, but it's like Crocs and, you know, Jacquard Noir cologne, you know?
02:05:34.340
It's like a scratch and sniff Jacquard Noir croc or something.
02:05:41.280
Available only at Walgreens or something, you know what I mean?
02:05:46.400
I have, for sure, a pair of KFC-branded Crocs that smell like KFC chicken.
02:05:56.780
God, you don't get a lot of shots to have those.
02:06:07.520
I tell funny, all my Crocs are just clabs that smell like sweat.
02:06:28.160
And you open them, you can tie them tighter by spinning that nugget?
02:06:37.600
Bro, I'll pay more for ones that don't smell like chicken.
02:06:51.920
Oh, God, they're not going to be offering that for long.
02:07:31.800
Yeah, I hope we have one to sell some right here.
02:07:34.380
These squirrel wallets are made with real squirrel pelts.
02:07:47.280
Well, where are you going to keep all your love for your lady at?
02:07:54.160
And look, can you look at some of the other products, please?
02:08:47.580
And they got to have one other good item on here.
02:08:50.260
We had a guy that sold a German Shepherd fur coat by us.
02:09:16.360
Yeah, you might be able to buy little shades for them.
02:09:22.060
They can have a variety of sizes, such as tall boy, slim, and standard.
02:09:38.820
God, that just shows what they think of the Irish right there.
02:09:47.880
Are the tall boy ones more expensive than the other ones?
02:09:51.560
Actually, the skoonzie is, that one's almost $65.
02:10:00.440
But, yeah, we had a dude selling a German Shepherd fur coat by us when I was young, I remember.
02:10:09.560
Seems like there's probably a lot of regulations to this business here.
02:10:13.980
Like, just be selling, like, just kind of random animal pelts to people.
02:11:09.160
Why do they have Werner's ginger ales on top, dude?
02:11:13.260
And how are these men just meeting each other in the snow?
02:11:54.940
The fumes from that wood could easily kill all four or five of those men.
02:12:00.720
A sauna has been created inside of a limousine.
02:12:40.780
And I feel I'm falling like these leaves I must be