E511 $uicideboy$
Episode Stats
Length
2 hours and 5 minutes
Words per minute
212.87013
Harmful content
Misogyny
68
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Toxicity
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Hate speech
90
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Summary
The Suicide Boys are back in New Orleans, Louisiana and they are back with a new album, New World Depression. They are joined by their good friend and former co-worker Blair to talk about how they met and fell in love with music. They also talk about what it's like to grow up in a drug-ridden home and how they got into the music industry.
Transcript
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Today's guests are probably the most requested guests that we've ever had.
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And that's where we came to spend time with them.
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Down here on Carondelet Street at the Maison de la Luz Hotel.
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They have a new album called New World Depression.
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Grateful today to spend time with the Suicide Boys.
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For Christmas or something, you got to bring them bitches back.
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I grew up in Covington and I moved over to Mandeville.
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I grew up in Covington down by Lee Road or whatever.
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Where they handle business and they'll bury you.
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They got kind of BYO chiropractor shit going on.
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They'll hook like a winch to your leg and try to...
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My dad was in jail with a Lee Road boy and it was his roommate and that's...
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I did flooring with him and shit when we first started.
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I went to that job sober for one day just because I didn't have shit, bro, and I was
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So I went there sober for one day and by lunchtime, I was willing to suck some dick for something.
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My friend had a joke of how people in Louisiana, like blue-collar guys, workers, they'll verbally
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express their resume to you to hire them, but their resume is like, oh, I don't do pills
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I do good work, whatever, and that's how they get the job.
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When I was off that shit, bro, I was on it, bro.
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When I was managing a restaurant, Xanax was not my friend.
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I mean, who was a better, I don't know if there's a term for better drug user.
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And then basically by 16, by 16, I had my first pain pill.
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And then from then, I was like, fuck, I want to feel like this every day.
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Because I grew up, the way I grew up, I hated all that shit from just growing up how I did.
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And I was like, I'm never going to touch any of that shit.
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And then once I did, you know, it's like, I get it.
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So from 16 on to 2019, every day, yeah, it was everyday balls to the wall.
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It started with pain pills, went to stronger pain pills, went to heroin.
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Then the worst he got was toward the end where I was just speedballing all day.
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Like 20 Adderall a day, 20 Xanax a day to calm me down from that.
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And then, you know, whatever, opiates, we can get fentanyl patches, whatever, dude.
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People will do pickleback heroin in the Louisiana.
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People will be like, what are you doing, bro?
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Shit, that drug's always been super prevalent down here, especially in New Orleans, you know.
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What about your, like your first, do you remember taking your first pain pill ever or no?
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I had two ankles, two screws put in my ankles for a skateboarding injury that I got into when I was 13.
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The Vicodin pill bottle would be like above on my headboard.
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And like every few hours, I was supposed to take one.
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And after I got recovered and I started like being a teenager and being social and all that stuff, that's what I wanted to find was painkillers.
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I remember once I took a couple of somas, bro, and I didn't, I felt like I didn't have any arms for almost half a day.
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Well, like the Trinity is supposed to be a Percocet, a Soma, and a Xanax.
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You ever seen the pharmacist that like documentary on that?
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It was like 200 Lord tabs, 180 Xanax, and 120 Soma.
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It was like the Trinity that they prescribed to everyone.
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Yeah, oh, I remember they busted a mall Santa in Terrytown with like 100 Somas on them or something.
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A town full of so many Terrys, they named it after them.
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Some dudes, they were so fucked up, they put flooring on the ceiling, bro.
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You're like, damn, bro, this dude put flooring on everything, bro.
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They'll floor your yard in Louisiana, bro.
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That's crazy to think of how strong they are and how powerful they are, that that's like
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Bro, it's like a very euphoric, like, it's almost like a coming to Jesus moment.
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My papa had passed away when I was 16, and he was like my dad.
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And when he passed away, you know, I came across a pain pill.
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And I, you know, at that point, I was just like, you know, like, this is too painful.
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And, you know, he had his funeral that day.
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You'll give a goddamn emancipation proclamation.
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He only, look, I will say to the day, to this day, I've heard it's the only eulogy with
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So I am saying that that's the rumor going around now.
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So do you think you would have been able to get that eulogy if you weren't on the appeals?
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I wonder if that's how, like, I wonder if that, was that like the first time you ever
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Like, it was the first time in my life that I was comfortable in my skin.
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That I felt like my whole life, I like, there was something off.
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Like, I could never be comfortable in my own skin.
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That was the first time where that happened to me.
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I told myself, I remember, I'm going to feel like this every day for the rest of my life.
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And that's what I set out to do from the time I woke up to the time I went to sleep.
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So how does music even get started then by you guys if y'all are already.
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It's hard to get a pill head to finish painting the baseboards, dude.
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If you hold pills above their head, you can get them to do anything you want.
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And it wasn't like we were so fucked in the beginning.
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And we were ignorant and thinking like that, that story that you hear about death in jail,
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that's not going to happen to us because we're smarter than that.
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But, you know, give it 10 years and we're at that point.
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And then at some point it kind of got, the lines got blurred a little bit.
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Because one thing that's crazy about you guys' music, I was listening to so much over
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the past month trying to like decipher like, okay, is there a certain beat?
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Sometimes I hear a little bit of like Bone Thug, maybe I would hear.
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You used to get that so much when we first started.
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We used to get compared to Bone Thugs all the time.
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But then sometimes I would be watching, I would almost think of that movie Gummo or
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And kind of like off violent kind of like, yeah.
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And I was like, this shit, it's like, it feels, it's, it's music, but it feels like
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That's what you guys start, like some of y'all's stuff feels like that to me.
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We want to make people feel, I don't know.
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At first we were super edgy, like just saying crazy shit just to see reactions out of people.
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Like there's a thing that you, you know what I'm saying?
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Yeah, yeah, like old Memphis music from like the nineties.
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And my uncle put me on that when I was like eight years old and I just got obsessed.
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Um, but other than that, I, I, I came from more of like a trap music background, like trap
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And then, yeah, him from the punk background and like hip hop.
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You know, I was, I was bringing like boom, I was like, this isn't philosophical enough for me.
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But he made me realize that I was, I was taking myself way too seriously as far as like my taste
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And I think a lot of people from new Orleans have like this elitist taste in music because you know,
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the city's pretty like, you know, there's music everywhere, every day, every night, there's
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So I think growing up here, you kind of like, at least I did develop this elite taste and
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he's the one that kind of knocked me down a couple of pegs.
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It doesn't have to be so serious, like with a message and shit.
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That's the vibe I get from like, and even getting a, go to, uh, go to one of y'all's shows,
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like, just like there's this legion of people that want to just have this experience.
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You know, they want to be in this like disturbing moment, you know, like they like the song,
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the song, but it's almost like they're anthems too, to them.
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Dude, it's a lot of, a lot of these kids are like misfits and outcasts and weirdos.
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And like he said, never felt comfortable in his own skin.
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I can relate to that very well, you know, myself.
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So I think we provide a place for these kids to feel like they're surrounded by their people.
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And it's like this, it's emotional, like, um, they can like get their emotions out by
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getting in the pit or yelling lyrics or like, you know, maybe you'll meet a girl there.
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I always like to think that after these shows, like these kids stay in touch and like, it's
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And I think they, they share a connection with us, which I love because I don't, I don't
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ever want them to, to look at us as, I want us to be humanized to them.
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When I was there, I remember even going from backstage and being around the people that
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the night I was there, I think you guys had Shakewell, uh, Nashville and, uh, who else?
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Um, he had turnstile, uh, you know, not that he, who, you, who, you know, and he wasn't
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Cheddar was there, but I remember from even just the people that were backstage, the people
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working with you, with y'all to the crowd.
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I couldn't tell the difference between who the fuck was who anyway.
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I'm just saying, it was like, I'm just saying that it, it's just, it feel like all the same
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It just feels like, um, it doesn't feel like there's a uniform.
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It's like, yeah, it doesn't feel like you guys are in like a superior place.
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I don't ever want anyone to feel like I think I'm better than him.
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I never want to be looked at as if I like punched down or anything like, uh,
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yeah, no, I, I, I hope I would never put myself out there to, to be looked at in that
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light because I don't feel like I'm better than even the, even the people that come to
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the show, dude, I don't feel like I'm better than any of the people that are helping us
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at the shows and, and working and putting the sets together and, and, and security.
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Every night, the security and then the venue workers.
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Cause it's true without them, you know, it takes a lot of people to throw a show and
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And it's not just all about the glitz and the glamor because we, people know our names
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You know, a lot of people put hard work into this and, you know, Scott and I have been
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And we love meeting the fans and, and, and, uh, talking with them, but we do have our
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boundaries and I will, we've never been a dick to the fans, except if they deserved
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You know, I use that word loosely, but you know, kind of crossing that boundaries and
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posing on our personal space a little too much to where we have to say something.
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So no, you gotta, you also have to, I got into it with a commie in my comments the other
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He said he was going to come take all my shit.
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Dude, to take all somebody's shit, that would take two or three days, bro.
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This is too much, but he had an ex girl take all his shit out of his house in a couple
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I was in, I was in rehab with a, with a bag of underwear, some shirts from H and M that
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Kyle bought me for rehab and like fucking 10 grand left to my name.
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Which sounds like a lot to some people, but you know, I mean, at that time, bro, I probably,
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Well, it's funny because sometimes when you go to rehab and shit, people will pack a bag
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and the most thing they put in there the most, bro, underpants, bro.
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It's almost like, it's important, but it's like, bro, at least help me.
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You'll see somebody in rehab wearing like underpants as a shirt, bro.
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I went to, I went to like Target before I went to rehab and just bought all cozy, comfortable
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So what's the point in like trying to dress and impress?
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Ruby's got one of those portable fireplaces you got going on.
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They had Roku's in the, um, so when you guys first start putting the tunes together, then
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I mean, I know there's a lot of lore out there, but I just want my fan base to know too, man,
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You guys have created this universe that's really super unique, man.
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Like you guys's thing is, um, it's its own thing.
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I don't think we, we haven't gotten used to any of this either, bro.
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Like even, even coming here today, it was like really nerve wracking, you know, we're
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But as far as the music, I mean, when you say like, how does it get created?
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Are you talking about like from a creative standpoint when we get together and actually
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make the song or like, like how did we get together and get to this point?
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Like the origin or like, yeah, I know you guys are cousins, right?
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He looks kind of like my brother, but I don't think we've ever gotten compared to us personally.
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But it's just a, it's the kind of wildest sound or feeling or thing that come out of
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It's, it's really interesting because you wouldn't think it if, if say, if you played you guys
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music for people from, you know, and they were like, where do you think this came out
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But, um, it's just what you guys have is so unique.
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I mean, you guys play, uh, you guys are playing arenas, you know, it's like, it's fucking
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And it's kind of, it's all you, it's all you and your fans thing.
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That's what I think is feels like it's y'all's thing.
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It almost feels, I almost feel like an outsider even getting to spend time with you in a way.
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I mean, I, I, you and I are close and, um, and I'm grateful to, you know, we're both from Louisiana,
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I'm grateful for it, but still, I know that that's y'all's world.
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Like, how does that first thing start to kick off and how do you know you're making something
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that you feel brave enough to put out there or were you just wait or were you just kind
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So I, he started off like he, he used to rap and, and he was, you were, you were in a
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I started off DJing when I was 13, I was listening to Q93, you know, and DJ Rowe was on there and
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he was, uh, it was the first time I ever heard someone blend two songs together and it tripped
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So my parents got me like this little a hundred dollar, um, DJ set up for Christmas.
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And I started from there out fast forward, you know, I'm DJing parties, all that, um,
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Well, Friday, yeah, it went down, it went down.
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I'm about 19 and that's when I got into producing and, uh, engineering, like recording people and
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I would do it for fun, but I never, I thought it was whack to be white and be a rapper.
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I didn't see too many out there that pulled it off.
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So I was like, I always felt like my place was more behind the scenes.
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And then, um, I'd made a couple of mixtapes for fun while, uh, on like my off days when
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I was working at the furniture store, he reaches back out.
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Dude, I rented some shit for a fucking Wine Accord one time.
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During Katrina, I had an apartment or something and we put some furniture in there.
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And somebody, uh, yeah, some dude stole, like, we had three Ottomans in that bitch, bro.
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You don't see a lot of just solely Ottoman, uh, theft.
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Because who's going to lay on the floor and just put their feet up?
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I wouldn't even be mad at him, you know what I'm saying?
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If you're just taking the Ottomans, I ain't even.
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So when people came in the door, were you showing the furniture?
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Like, bro, if I could, fuck it, that would be my dream, dude, if I showed up and you got
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I had to wear makeup on my hands at one point, because I got my hands tattooed, which ultimately
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And then we were, like, we would keep in touch with each other.
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He would hit me up, and I think it was around, yeah, it was when I got fired.
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I don't know if you had just graduated from Loyola, but he wanted to come and film a music
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video for one of my songs, which I thought he was trolling me the whole time.
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You know, I was like, I was like, no, the first time he's fucking with me, but he's the
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He's like, nah, you're actually pretty good at rapping, bro.
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And then G59 came about, because that was like a little click back in, like, high school.
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And even a little bit after high school, we thought we were thugs, bro.
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And everybody on the east side of Highway 59, and our color was gray.
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And a lot of those guys either died from drug overdoses or got in trouble or some shit.
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So, but we kept the name alive by, like, we got together.
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Well, I just thought G59, Gray59, was a hard-ass fucking name.
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I was just, I was going to say, it's funny because when he started making beats back in, like,
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And around that time, I was getting really into, like, hip-hop and currency and stuff,
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And I was like, yo, can you show me how you do this?
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And it's just so funny that now we're still doing the same shit.
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We would use, we would book shows on, like, in the North Shore and Baton Rouge or whatever.
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And we would use those live shows as practice to see what is going to work, what's not going
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to work, the things we can do to fuck with the crowd and all that stuff.
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And on our third time we did it, we finally, we won.
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We won and we just took all that money and bought t-shirts, like blanks.
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We would literally text people, like, want to buy one?
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And then Scott would, like, drive it to them and deliver.
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Bro, that's still what you guys, this whole thing feels like to me.
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Not, it doesn't feel small like that, but it feels like that.
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Because I'll see, like, fonts and things and it's like, I don't understand it because
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I haven't known the music from the beginning, right?
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And it's interesting that you say that because, fuck, what did you just say?
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Yeah, you drove, you would drive over the delivery.
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You know, obviously we're not driving t-shirts to people anymore, but Scott and I are still
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Like, this is our baby and we love it and it's loved us back and we want to take care of
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it and distancing ourselves from it because we've gained money and egos is not really something
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And we're very aware of that, too, you know?
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I don't know any other force or consequence that might have been powerful enough to make
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Not just the business, not just the label, but each other.
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It's way bigger than me, him, and it's bigger than any of us, bro.
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I think that's something, like he just said, that we tell ourselves constantly to just keep
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ourselves down to earth and, you know, because it's easy, dude, to get to be successful and
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It's easy because, if anything, you have to fight that shit off.
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Well, yeah, it's a battle I've dealt with and some days I win, some days I lose.
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And especially if you're hands-on, used to doing things and that becomes a part of it because
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you're, you know, you want everything to be perfect, learning to let other people help
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you, and then your ego can build without you even noticing it.
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You think like, oh, I'm just proud of myself, but that 95% of that cup could be ego.
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I think it's funny you say that, though, Scott, like about something saving you.
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Yeah, there's a lot of times where if I didn't have to, I'm like, there's some temptation
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that'll happen the night before, and I'm like, I got a podcast tomorrow, or I have a show
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to do, or I have some responsibility, I got to get an edit for my producers, or one of
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them is waiting on an email from me or something, or I'm waiting from them, and it keeps me going.
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Yeah, bro, I would have been, you know, for a long time, I would argue that drugs kept
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me alive, because I just, I didn't know how to live in this world, I didn't want to live
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in this world at all, but at the same time, didn't quite have the balls to take myself
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So I'd say that drugs kept me alive for a long time.
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Like, what was the tough part for you, you think?
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I think it was, like I said, just being born, like, I just feeling out of place, like, always,
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Like, I'm a large in the worlds of fucking media, but some of the worlds of 7XL.
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So I think it's a, and they've done a lot of, I mean, they've done a lot of work on
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That's part of that, and I think also, you know, the way I grew up, and, you know, when
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I say this, dude, I'm not, I love everyone in my family.
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I go, I'll go above and beyond for any one of them, but, you know, everybody was doing
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With what they knew how to do, but it was still tough.
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You know, it was, it was some tough shit to grow up in, you know, so that didn't help.
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But I'll tell you the biggest thing, and I'll shut up.
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That way I don't get too overwinded with this, because I have a tendency to do that.
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But I always thought, like, this thing, like, okay, the drugs are not working anymore.
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But this thing, this thing's going to do it for me.
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Once we get to that place, whatever that place is in my head, whenever I get that thing,
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And then I got really suicidal when we got there, whatever there, wherever there is.
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I felt, now I feel worse, because if this don't work, what's going to do it?
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And that's, you know, that's when I really started to spiral.
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And for me, and I'll end it with this, the answer for me has been getting involved in
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the 12-step programs, and it's been more of a spiritual answer, rather than the material,
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I remember, I was in my garage, it was like two years, probably two years ago, man.
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It's ass backwards, because you have to like yourself first, and then the other stuff
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But it's crazy to think, man, you know, that that's kind of the way that it could kind of
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It gives me a lot of hope every time I see you.
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And the way you run your rooms, bro, and not to over-talk you, but it's like-
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Just got to where I was living on my own in California where I went and got sober, and
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That was my introduction to you, and it was why I got sober.
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And then from there, I watched that video, and you inspired me, bro, and you gave me hope.
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And then that's when I did a deep dive on you and started watching all your greatest hits
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and highlights and shit, laughing my ass off.
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But yeah, before we even knew each other, bro, you gave me a little bump when I needed
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Yeah, it's crazy kind of, I think, the connection that people get going through if they're using
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It's like on both sides of that, it seems like there's probably a lot of connection.
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Like, even on the using side, there's like a level of connection that that keeps people.
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I mean, that'll keep you in the act of addiction by, you know, you kind of almost, when I was
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buying pills and shit and snorting Roxy's, I never wanted to do them alone.
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And so I would share with everybody, and I was making money, so I could buy a bunch, and
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I would share with people that were my friends that didn't make as much money, and they were
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happy to get free pills, and I could, like, be in my dark shit, but not alone.
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And I think a lot of addicts are chasing loneliness.
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They're chasing, they're having trouble with self-acceptance.
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And I think finding your little group of, like, similar drugs that you want to do together
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definitely makes you feel like you're safe and at home.
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And then the exact opposite happens when you get off of them, too.
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You find your people that want to stay away from that shit, and it kind of strengthens
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your little community that you're in, you know?
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What were some of the, like, what have been some of the highlights?
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I mean, because you guys have a success that I think, like, a lot of people don't really
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A lot of people do, but y'all aren't a mainstream thing.
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If anything, I kind of take offense to the opposite, that people do consider us mainstream,
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We are in maybe how popular we are or how many people listen to us, but, you know, you're
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You know, every fan that we meet, whether it's like we're just out and about and we run into
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somebody that recognizes us, ask him, and I bet you he'll back me up.
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Like, 10 times out of 10, they tell me that they've listened to us since 2015.
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Which, or they'll say, I've been listening to you guys since y'all started.
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Or since I was in seventh grade, and now they're at 20-something.
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Some of them are still in seventh grade, too, bro.
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That's why even, like, with talking with you guys, it feels, since I wasn't there from the
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beginning, you don't feel a little bit of, you're like, oh, this is their thing.
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Even when I meet y'all's fans, it feels like that.
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It feels like there are people that have feelings, and they've been through something.
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Y'all's shows are real interesting, man, because it's such a kickoff, and then it's almost like
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You got the people up by the front, just like, almost like it's like a big lung up there.
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We were about to do a show in New York, and only three people were showing up.
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And me and some other rappers were like, fuck this.
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He's like, bro, it doesn't matter if one person shows up or thousands.
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And ever since then, I've ran with that, you know?
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If these people are paying to come watch me perform, then the last thing I want to do
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I don't know if that makes sense, but I want to go out there and give them energy.
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And like I said, dude, worst case scenario, one person showed up.
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Because, you know, we'll tour once a year, really.
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We're like, fuck, we've done this for 10 years.
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So you guys, now there's a new album coming out.
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I think about it even, like, in comedy and stuff.
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Like, you know, some of your, like, people that listen to you,
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they listen to you at a certain age, but they're getting older, too.
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And how do you try to also apply to yourself at the same time?
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Um, so we might have two different, I think it'll be, well, at first, I think at first
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we were scared to kind of change the sound up because the formula was working and we
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were worried about, like, introducing new stuff because what if they don't like it and
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And the more successful you get is, like, the scarier it gets because you think one wrong
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fucking move and it all crumbles, which isn't true.
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But we started experimenting, doing some, like, singing stuff or whatever, and people
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And then we got to a point to where we don't, we didn't really care if they didn't like it
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Scott and I have been making this music for so long now that if we want to try something
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experimental or new, I think we deserve to at this point.
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Um, so it can be a scary thing, but I think, you know, don't fear it and just, just do it
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I think I, I agree a hundred percent on everything you said from on a more, I don't know if you
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went through this too, but for me on a more personal level, when I got sober, it was like
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I had a, like, I was so scared because I thought my drug use fueled all my creativity.
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And so, like, for me, I, once I finally did start getting back into it, it was literally
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And the sound did kind of change as a result of that beat wise, um, production wise.
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So I think the evolution of our music has matched exactly.
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Like if you're like on pills and you're deep out on pills, I never really got that out on,
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you know, if you're like, um, huffing trank or whatever, I don't even know what some of
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Fucking swamp pebbles or whatever you're buying out of here.
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They'll fucking have a tilapia flavored perk out here, bro.
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You'll have a fucking pecan crusted Zan bar out here, bro.
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Everybody wants to be a chef in this motherfucker, bro.
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Oh, you'll have a bag of char-grilled somas over here, bro.
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You're like, damn, this place is crazy, dude.
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But, um, what was it like making music when you're under that influence?
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Is it, is it even possible to make music when you're like, like that kind of pill high?
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So I'm just curious, like, or is it just possible to just like listen back or is it, do you feel
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any creative, was there any creativity from the actual high of that?
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I don't know if we work differently because I know sometimes you would wait until after
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I mean, that's like, look, how do you find it?
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So do we both awake at the same time to make a try?
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When you take a Percocet first thing in the morning or whatever, your Oxy, whatever it
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Like I'll come out of that bathroom snorting something and I'm like, what's up motherfuckers?
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And then the, as you keep dosing at the end of the day, it's kind of like when you've, you
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know, you've done all day it and that's when you start to kind of nod off.
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It's like your body's like, okay, I'm dropping out.
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And down, but you can hear it in the music now.
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Sometimes we go back for, for laughs and we'll listen to some of the shit I made when
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What did you say is the most fucked up you've ever were for an album?
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You did, you did phenomenal on it, but I was so far gone, dude.
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I was, I was literally in psychosis from doing so much speed and, and, and downers, bro.
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Um, I thought Southwest Airlines was trying to kill me.
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Yeah, I thought Kyle took a life insurance policy out on me for 70 grand.
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Bro, that's the most New Orleans shit ever.
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Somebody takes a life insurance policy out for $700, bro.
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Just for want to make it their truck payment.
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That's the fucking most New Orleans shit, bro.
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We were in, we were in New Zealand when he told me that he thought that they were putting
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He thought like, what do you say when he sits you down?
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At one point I was starting to get really impatient with it because like, I was tired of explaining,
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I was tired of explaining that like this insane theory wasn't actually happening.
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This was one time where he quit suicide boys on Twitter.
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At the time he had just bought a condo in Bradenton, Florida, outside of Sarasota.
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So long story short, we fly down there, rent a car, drive to his apartment.
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We go upstairs and I knock on the door and he's like, one second, I think to myself,
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He had to go to the bathroom, do his little thing, catch my drift.
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And this long story to say, I was trying to like, see, I was like, is he fucking with
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Is he thinking I'm, does he think I'm stupid or does he actually believe this shit?
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So I had to sit him down and I was like, bro, this Southwest thing.
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Do you think that the board, like, like the people on the board of Southwest sit in a
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boardroom, Southwest Airlines, Southwest Airlines.
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And they, they discuss how we're going to assassinate scrim from suicide boys.
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And he looked at me dead in the eyes, the most serious look on his face.
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I took my phone and I threw it on the, I was trying to hit the grass, but I hit the sidewalk.
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I thought they were trying to kill me because my brother had bootlegged one of our tracks
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and, and cause he was bad off on dope and sold it to this person for like 800 bucks,
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but actually didn't give him the song and just scammed them.
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And I thought the person he scammed was the son of somebody on the board of Southwest.
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To speak on the other, to speak on the other side of things, I'm thinking what is coming
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Come to find out the story of his brother stealing a song and selling it is true.
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So it's like, and I'm sitting there and I feel bad because I'm like been calling him
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So then I'm like, all right, so is all of this true?
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I still refuse to believe that the board of Southwest is meeting to discuss his assassination.
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But I had my, my brother and my family believe that I had fucking time, bro.
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Uh, I had fans tweeting at Southwest airlines on Twitter.
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That was, that was like when I was really, uh, spiraling.
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It's interesting though, that you guys were at least had a close enough connection.
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Cause a lot of bands fall apart from that kind of stuff.
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A lot of our groups, a lot of teams fall apart.
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But for you to go there and want to actually just to think, let me see what's really going
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Like we've gotten in each other's faces ready to fucking beat the shit out of each other.
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And we've both been able to like, you're my cousin and I don't want to do that.
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I fucking hate you right now, but I'm not going to touch you.
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And I say that the family thing, which obviously doesn't apply to everybody, but we've been able
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to look at the fact that we're cousins and the fact that we provide for our families,
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which is a shared family as a reason to never give up on each other.
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If this was just one of my friends, I don't think it would have been the same.
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That's good that you brought that up because a lot of, a lot of groups just don't make
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it in general and doing business with family is usually not a smart way to go.
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But for us, I mean, it's the only time it worked out.
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We both got the same granny to answer to and she ain't nothing nice.
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She done FaceTime me before being like, you making music without your cousin, you know,
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And I was like, and I'd have to call her and be like, granny, I got it.
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She's going to think that I'm like fucking venting to you.
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She was a bus driver for the parish, Jefferson Parish, pretty much her whole life.
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Drove me to school from kindergarten to high school.
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She would manhandle like grown, like seniors in high school.
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I'm telling you, you don't want to fuck with that lady.
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The first seat, they'll have a Crock-Pot going in that bitch, bro.
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That's back when the bus, sometimes I'm going to just pick up a strange on that.
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You'd have two raccoons in the fourth row, bro.
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Dude, the bus, people used to cut, like, it used to be like the green seat cover.
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Sometimes they were green and sometimes they were black.
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People would cut a little, like, slice in there.
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The bus, they didn't even realize the bus the whole time was just driving dope around
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I was too busy fingering girls in the back of the bus.
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That was really, that was a red light district of the bus.
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What were some of the things they would say on there?
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I remember when the Saints were going to the Super Bowl, Q93 hosted, like, some show at
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the Howlin' Wolf, and they had, like, every, that year, because the Saints were doing so
00:49:49.180
well, everybody came out with a Saints song.
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It was, like, all these Saints rappers out there.
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I pitched the idea to wind the court that they need to advertise on Q93.
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We were selling the shit out of some furniture after that.
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Did y'all, um, was there some moments where you guys got to connect with some local artists
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We're not even doing a show this year in New Orleans because we don't feel love and we're
00:50:58.760
We got out of every arena we went to last year.
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New Orleans absolutely treated us the worst.
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Like we were, like they were doing us a favor.
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I was actually like mind blown by it, but, um, and what is it do you think do you do?
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You guys, it's a, you guys are something so different.
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I don't know if that has something to do with it.
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I think people get turned off by the name, uh, suicide boys.
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And I know that like, that's fact doesn't fuck with us because of that.
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But what a lot of people don't understand is, is it's not, you know, it might've started
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off as like a way to say stupid shit, but it's definitely become a thing that people relate
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to, and it's, it's become an important part of some kids lives.
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And, you know, Scott and I want people to do well, you know, we're not like trying to
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Cause we never intended, we never had like this grand idea or intention for it to turn
00:51:54.440
into this like community and turn into what it, or like have kids being like, yo, you
00:51:58.740
saved my life or like the emails that, that Kyle and them get, um, fan letters.
00:52:06.040
So I, I think if, if people were to dig past the surface, you know, they would, they would
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see, but I think that also goes into like, this is bigger than us, dude.
00:52:17.360
I get more requests for you guys than anybody ever.
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When, Oh dude, every, if it, uh, I feel like kind of the same, but everybody's been like,
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At first I thought it was people just trying to get me to send them cash.
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The first thousand I got, I'm like, who the fuck is this guy?
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Dude, they must really, they running a GoFundMe.
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But then, uh, but then I was like, Oh damn, everybody wants to see these guys.
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I'm like a grandpa now ever since I got sober, but.
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But if this was a crawfish eating competition, you know who would have won?
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Look, he's almost shaped like a crawfish right there.
00:56:19.060
Dustin didn't win, but I really didn't feel like he lost.
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I mean, this dude, everybody thought this dude was going to roll.
00:56:30.600
People thought that Islam was going to beat him because he beats everybody.
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And you could tell, man, it's just interesting the different ways a lot of people use to express
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We've been doing that for the past couple of years.
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And, bro, that in itself is an art and a science and something to be respected.
00:57:02.580
So now when I watch this, I have a whole different.
00:57:08.240
But, like, I watch these guys, bro, and the amount of respect I have for them just in the
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little training that we do, you know what I'm saying?
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Anything you watch, skateboarding, boxing, whatever it is, it seems easy.
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And I'm not 100%, but if this is my last fight, I wanted to dedicate this journey to
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And I know I'm still protected by your prayers.
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And babe, Julie, I don't know if I'd be breathing, honestly, if it wasn't for you.
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I think the thing about him, he just like, even if you don't get the W, it's like, there's
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And that's what I think everybody can relate to.
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I can fight through another day in my life, whether it's just feeling okay or...
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Well, when he was talking in the post-conference interviews, he was bringing up the uncertainty
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I think we just give up music, train for 10 years, and then we can put on our own headlining
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We can pull like a Sopranos, and right as the fight's about to start, it fades to black,
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Bro, they have one of the best Cribs episodes ever, the yin-yang twins.
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They're just like shouting random noises like the whole time.
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They got, well, the Saints took their song, wasn't it?
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K-Gates took the beat and made it into the, we yelling who that, the who that say, the
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But I think there was like some copyright issue.
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At the game, you'll hear the yin-yang twins version.
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I'm walking down the street when I, like, going next door to get a coffee.
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I was thinking, man, it would be cool if we had some neat art.
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There's a dude sitting outside blazing with his homie.
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And he's like, I was like, dude, I'm about to chat with the Suicide Boys.
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It's kind of like what, that's the thing about New Orleans.
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You'll either disappear in a pothole, bro.
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We was handing out mixtapes, and them bitches were going in the trash.
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Bro, actually, I'm going to tell the LSU story.
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Scott, when we first started recording and making music, really first attempting to do this shit,
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We're staying with my brother because he's going to school there at the time.
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And we go in like that big part of the campus where like all the traffic, all the people
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Bro, first of all, all them CDs ended up in the trash.
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We turned around three feet away from us as the CD on the ground.
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But the funniest thing that happened that day was, I love this part.
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It was some girl, this like nervous freshman heading to class, a bunch of books in her
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She's riding her bike and she comes in front of me and Scott and rolls over his shoe.
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And Scott, well, we both do, but Scott loves white shoes.
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You know, the thing with white shoes is don't fucking scuff them, like keep them clean.
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And I'm just like laughing the whole time because I just thought it was funny.
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You got to say this motherfucker still looked like this back then.
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And I'm just like dying laughing like the white shoes, man.
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He's like, I'll floor your whole fucking house, lady.
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I lost count of how many fights I got in growing up over stepping on people's shoes, bro.
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That's how me and Kyle met at Fountain Blue because this dude was cutting the line.
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I'm like, nah, this ain't happening today, bro.
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And then, you know, next thing I know, I'm fighting him, both of his sisters who were
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built like linebackers and a couple other guys.
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And that's how me and Kyle, that's how we got, that's how we met.
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He was like, yo, come roll with us from here on out.
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You know this, but for our audience, you know, the Mandeville is the area of like the families
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where we're all white and take family portraits at the beach.
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Yeah, you'll have somebody get buried in an oyster half shell or something over there.
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They got some couple cuties over there in tall timbers.
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You'll have a dude have his eyes taken out of a couple dice put in.
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And even him, when I walked in the bus, he said, what the fuck are you doing?
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That's the first thing this man tells me on my first day of school to ever get on the
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I was like, I thought I landed on another planet.
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It took me getting into a fight for Kyle and him to be like, all right, you good.
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There's something about walking around a school when nobody talks to you that you create
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It's like, you know, you're living in a first person shooter world.
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I went to Jesuit and it was all boys, Catholic, prep school, whatever.
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And I definitely did not fit in in that school when I, to this day, if I say that.
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See, when I say I went to Jesuit, people are like, what?
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I was going to, I was actually going to say that story too.
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I was like 14 and I started, I was like, I'm going to try it all because I just tried
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Which is funny because those two things really don't go together actually.
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But anyway, I like spread this rumor about myself.
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I was snorting heroin on my desk in geometry class.
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And I did it because I got off to like how everybody thought I was crazy.
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So I let the rumor spread when they got back to me, it was like, oh, Adi slangs crack
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That's like what they were saying about me.
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First of all, second of all, I confirmed it all.
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And that was my way of like getting all those guys to fuck off, you know?
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You used to always, we used to always hear stories about Lil Wayne driving to school.
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That Lil Wayne, like somebody got him a car when he was 14.
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And he would drive to school when it was like a home or I don't know, whatever,
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And he would drive in park by the teachers and shit.
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That was like a rumor that we always heard.
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When I was, when they found out I was moving in, the whole HOA had a meeting about a rapper.
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When I, when I first moved into that neighborhood a couple of years ago, they had a meeting about
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And they found out these two rappers were moving into the neighborhood and they threw
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They realize we like are quiet, nice, friendly guys.
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I was like picking up my neighbor's kid from his school.
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Well, I think there's been a history of like, I mean, you had like, when I was in college,
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uh, Master P would come over to the rec center and shoot ball.
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Um, and they would have all kinds of guys over there.
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I think there's so much history of a lot of New Orleans rappers.
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Damn, I didn't even put all that together.
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Like, how many, how many New Orleans rappers?
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His dad told us a story about, his dad was in St. Tammany, and so was BG.
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Because imagine being a rapper, you go to jail, how many people are trying to freestyle
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So, apparently, BG one day makes an announcement to everybody saying, if one more motherfucker
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comes up to me in freestyle, I'm going to have a big problem.
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And they just beat the shit out of him anyway, or something like that.
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It was like his first day out video type shit.
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Did you guys' success give him, like, any cloud in the pen, did he say, or anything
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That was, like, actually right before we linked up and stuff.
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They probably got some crazy whips out there.
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That's, I think that's a van at Holyfield's house.
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They got horses eating straight hay out of Ferraris, baby.
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Bro, that's, yeah, that's kind of like a wild, that's a.
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People be coming up with the craziest ways to flex.
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My dad bought a cutlass from a couple brothers that live around the corner from us when I was a kid.
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I've told this story before, but I only have so much stories.
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And my dad was like probably 80 years old at the time, right?
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So he buys this bitch that had 22s in a trunk, right?
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Bro, my brother got braces and bitches fucking shit.
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Dude, on Q93, though, it would be crazy because even the weather was like, we got a fucking
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30% chance of it being hot as a motherfucker.
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It would always be like, damn, this is an adventure, bro.
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It was always like the weirdest weather report on Q93, man.
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And B97, that was another one they had before that.
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But because it was New Orleans, they also did some hot boy shit.
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As much as they try to stay behind the scenes, we always make sure they get seen at least
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It just feels like it's, um, y'all, it feels indie.
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It feels like, yeah, it just feels like it's y'all's world.
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It's like, a lot of people don't have their manual coming.
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If they do, yeah, they're in a suit or something.
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Yeah, like some people, like Will Smith was going to come on.
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And he wanted a little more control over the conversation.
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Like we, there was things where like we couldn't, like just, you couldn't ask about it, you
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So it was almost like, then you're just an advertisement for like a movie or something.
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Did you not want to ask, like talk about the slap?
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And I wouldn't have said like, hey, what do you hit a guy or something?
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I would be like, maybe what's been going on in your life that's been, that's been hectic
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Just talk about like, what makes you feel like that?
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Like the detail just seemed like he would be having a tough time probably.
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Unless something was going on between them guys.
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But, um, but a lot of times too, it's the agents that'll say that shit and the artists
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You know, it's just how they want to control and pop and prop.
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Everybody's on the same page because a lot of things didn't happen because of communication
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Like we all have dropped the ball at some point a little bit with communication.
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So now, you know, the four of us, that is the most important thing is communication
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So any fucking relationship, like it doesn't matter if it's professional, romantic.
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Um, so I'm, I'm grateful that I have him and I got, I got these guys.
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It helps that y'all went to high school together and shit.
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I mean, we're all brothers now, but me and Kyle were best friends since, uh, high school.
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He helped, uh, wash them bike tires off your shoes there, bro.
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But bro, we wouldn't, I mean, we, we were doing our thing and, and,
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Only good things can only happen with a group effort.
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Kanye said something not that long ago, man, where he's like something, I'm going to mess
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it up, but something to the effect of like, nothing's a solo project.
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You know, like nothing's a solo, to your point.
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And even then the team of people to absorb it and listen to it and want to feel it.
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You know, because it's interesting that listeners of things, and even us, when we listen to
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stuff, we all, we get a whole different thing out of it than the creator gets, you know?
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And that's, I don't think that point gets brought up enough either because the listeners
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or the audience rather is, is just as an important part of what the fuck we do and what you do.
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You know, that doesn't get brought up a lot, I think.
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Yeah, because you could make, you could be a good chef, but if nobody's enjoying it,
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you know, nobody's out there licking their lips or whatever, or putting a little bit
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in their napkin for the dope, I mean, at home or whatever, bro.
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She'd be like, I'm going to get this for my dog.
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I'm about to put a fur coat on and fucking hang out on your porch, then I'm fucking starving.
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Because she'd come take it off your plate before you even got to eat, man.
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Are you guys featured in a lot of you guys' videos and stuff?
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You know, it's obviously like a part of your life that you, so even if you haven't felt
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like as much of a fan base here, you guys still have a lot of love for Louisiana.
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I mean, dude, I think we both have a lot of love for just the Gulf Coast in general.
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Just this is the region we're from, we're comfortable here.
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But yeah, I mean, dude, New Orleans, and someone told us this early on.
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This is when, so basically if I had a, if I can give you a visual presentation, we were
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And someone informed us, I'm grateful they did.
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This is when SoundCloud started popping, internet rappers like, you know, Young Lean, Bones,
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Zay, when he was Ethel Wolf, all that was popping off.
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And someone was like, you basically got to attack the internet because everybody here knows
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Johnny, Johnny sees you at the gas station three times a week buying cigarettes.
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Like he ain't really buying what you're selling.
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Whereas when you go through the internet, and that's what we did, you know, we were able
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to create this thing where we got popping in all these other places first.
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And it literally started from like Russia and then came back to New Orleans.
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The advice was don't go local to international.
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Do the internet and attack an international crowd first because your hometown is going
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And it's true because they still don't fuck with us.
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But Yells, it's so interesting because there's a lot of New Orleans in it.
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Me and him, bro, we like worshipped cash money.
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Like Lil Wayne was a huge influence on both of us.
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And I would argue that Master P is a huge inspiration to me and him.
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How that motherfucker started a label, had a rapping career, almost made it to the NBA.
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Oh, he was one of the first kind of black.
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Tyler Perry to everybody, especially from this area.
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And especially from being from Calliope Projects, you know?
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If we're not from the Calliope Projects, what's our excuse of not making it?
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A big inspiration behind doing the label rather than just focusing solely on Suicide Boys.
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And then how do you get, like, is Cheddar on G59?
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We have about five artists, six including ourselves.
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I know Cheddar toured the last tour that I saw.
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They do a great job of setting those guys up on their own tour so they get their own shine.
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He's the only person besides me that I know that works.
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We try to show the boys love, and we've taken them on grade A and stuff, but with the other
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artists on our label, we try to take them on tour, but also, like he said, set them up
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on their own tours because it's important, bro, anything in this world that you get through
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hard work is going to be yours to keep for a very long time.
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But anything that was handed to you that you got very easily, it's not going to last very
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We support them and push them to grind and make your own audience.
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You can borrow some of ours, but I don't want that for you because it's not going to last
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I want you guys to have your fans that you earned, and I want it to be as big as it possibly
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I don't think the shortcut of just giving it to you is going to work.
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And a lot of it is, even if you're just other artists, you're around each other, you inspire
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Like, you're like, oh, I'm learning from this beat or this thing, or like, oh, this is cool,
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And that's, you know, it's definitely like you guys' own, it's almost your own galaxy
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or something, or your own like solar system y'all have going on.
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What, so yeah, what is going to be different about the new music?
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What do you feel like if you had to be specific about it?
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Bro, I think Scott agrees with me, but sometimes when we make albums or projects, and we don't
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There's been projects that we put out that we thought were great, and we wanted to do
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all these things for it, and like, they were great projects, and they did their thing,
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and like, they came and went, but there's been a couple where we didn't even think about
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it, and I don't know, I have this weird feeling that this album is going to be huge.
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And I'm not just saying that to promote it or whatever, I'm not really one for self-promotion,
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but we both have this weird feeling like, it's like when we don't try, is what I'm trying
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When we don't try, we make a fucking masterpiece.
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But when we're trying too hard, we make like some try-hard shit.
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Try-hard shit, that's such a good term, man.
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Because sometimes we'll work on a clip or something, it's like after we kicked it, you can just tell
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We just try to shine this to, or get it, you know, do something, and then we mess it up.
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Oh, I was just going to, you know, it gets like, we never wanted to be in a box.
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We wanted to be able to make whatever we wanted to make at any time.
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But as you grow, as you grow a fan base in this community, you kind of get put in the
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Luckily, I feel like a lot of them have grown with us.
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There's still some of those out there that, that's still, Suicide Balls was better in
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We wanted to, oh, you were better when you were on drugs, whatever.
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But, like, Kyle always says, he's like, dude, y'all just get better and better and better.
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But I do think one thing that has helped, you know, Suicide Boys sometimes can feel like
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Because there's, there's deadlines, there's, like, we got to get it done, there's expectations.
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I think one thing that has helped, like, release the valve a little bit and, like, let some
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of the pressure off, he's been doing Duck Boy, which is, like, his little, going back to his
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roots and doing his band stuff and experimenting and being able to be free.
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And same with me, I've been able to experiment with some, some, some sound solo-wise.
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And then, when we do that, we, you know, I feel like we feel refreshed, we feel loose.
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And then when we come back to SB, you know what I'm saying?
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Well, you can still feel like an individual, I think, because there's something that I'm sure
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once you're in a group that part of your, the individuality, it's there, but it's, it's
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So to be able to develop yourself more and then bring it to anything is probably pretty cool.
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And to still remind yourself that you can develop as an individual.
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So is, yeah, I was just wondering, is it, is it something you guys ever think about or
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We were supposed to do something with ski mask recently.
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Um, but the thing is, dude, if you don't catch us when you catch us, you're going to
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And if, if you, if you pass it up and like, bro, we can't rewind and go back.
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We still, we have a lot of shit on our own, on our own plates that we have to get.
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So that is the hardest part about how it happens.
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I think it's best whenever we, like whenever we do joint projects, like we did with germ
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Well, when we all get in a room together and we're able to just like pound it out for
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a week or two, we just lock ourselves in the room for a week and knock it out.
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Well, dude, she was a very talented fucker.
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Oh, we hung out together for like probably two weeks.
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And just so like, I love how excited he gets when he like gets kind of some information.
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You know, like it's, uh, he gets that look in his eye.
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That was really Shakewell's like kind of coming out to the world right there.
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It's like, imagine you just going in to pay for gas and you get stuck behind the two guys
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But all you want is 20 on pump four and the dude's ahead of your making, right?
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But yeah, man, when he gets those braids, he's got that Native American look in him a
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Like you can have all the talent in the world, but it's just, you gotta have that it factor.
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Shake, you can tell it just comes naturally to him.
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Shake had a background in the hardcore world playing bass in that band, Betrayal and shit,
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And so he had experience in music and playing shows and I met him.
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We both met him when we went to LA for the very first time.
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There's like within, I don't know, a couple hours.
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Like, and in LA, I think that just kind of happens.
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So we're, we must've met 30 fucking people that night.
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And I don't remember a single one of them until I shake.
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Well was one that was a consistent, like consistently hanging around Pouya and stuff.
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And when people tell you that, and you like have a little success with music, you kind
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of, you don't really know where the boundary is.
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Like, are they going to want me to listen to it?
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And you know, we kept our eye on him for a long time.
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Did you guys ever tour in any of the same circles as guys like Mac Miller, Lil Peep,
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That's so fucking weird that you bring that up.
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We were just talking about this yesterday.
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We did a festival once in Sweden called Bravalla back in 2017, our first European run.
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And that festival is not a festival anymore because too many dudes were groping chicks
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We actually had to cut the show short a couple of times to tell them, back up, stop trying
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Anyway, Mac Miller was at this festival and that was the first time we met him and kind
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Met Chester and Mike and Chester committed suicide like a month after that.
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And like that high-pitched voice, I turn around, Sway Lee.
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So I'm just, you know, in that moment, I'm like, what the fuck is going on?
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It was one of those moments, me nodding people, where I'm like, bro, what the fuck is going
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We don't get the nod from a lot of industry artists, or artists in the industry, rather.
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But some of it, you enjoy that probably, right?
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Like, it's probably good you're doing our own shit.
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I got this chip on my shoulder that I can't get off.
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What do you think that has to do with sobriety?
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I would wake up at 1 p.m. on a Wednesday like it was nothing.
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If I'm not cleaning the house or doing something productive, I feel like a fucking piece of shit.
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You know, I don't have a wife or nothing yet or anything.
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It's like, and I remember back to relationships I was in, I would get home with my girl.
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And then next thing I know, I always remember I'm on my computer.
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And she's like waiting to watch a show together or watch a movie or make some popcorn.
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I've been in a relationship now almost four years.
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And to your point, she was like, she respects it.
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I can see how it would get frustrating from the female point of view.
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She was like, can you at least just start taking the weekends off and hanging out with me?
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Recently, I had to start like cutting off work at like six o'clock, seven o'clock for
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Because with this job, whatever you want to call it, there's no hours.
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Things could pop up any day of the week and you don't know when or where it's coming from.
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So I kind of for myself had to set something up to where it's like after six, it can wait
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You kind of just start to think, oh, I just have to work, but it's not really true.
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And then you wonder, why am I going fucking crazy?
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Oh, because I have too much shit on my plate.
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It's like even all your merch, the way it looks, it's like, yeah, it all like just like
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I got a shirt in the car, too, if you want.
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Dude, I remember one time, bro, we used to make shirts before the Saints games, right?
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So, it was like, we would get them printed.
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Oh, my sister had made love to some dude or whatever, and that shit fell apart, and he
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So, and she and I were living together off of Claver, and so we're like, damn, bro,
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we got to make some fucking money, you know?
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And so, we got some Saints shirts printed up, and like, with the Saints shit on, so it was
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So, we're walking before the Saints games just with ice chest and shit.
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I quit comedy for this for about maybe nine months, and we're walking and trying to sell
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And some dude, angry dude, came up and tried to order a couple big mediums.
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We tried to help him, bro, but he wasn't willing to negotiate.
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Yeah, he was negotiating from a real unique angle.
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She was supportive, but she was like, this dude's got to get a fucking job.
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Sounded like my dad, bro, when we were early on.
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He's like, you're running up my fucking AC bill?
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When this shit's going to work, you need to go get a fucking job.
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Because we were like in the studio all the time.
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So the studio we had was a little, one of those, you know them sheds you can buy at Home Depot?
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This was like, what's the fake plywood paneling or whatever?
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My mom did hair in there and then, you know, she quit doing it.
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He'd come up like three, four days out the week and sleep over there.
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Everything before I Want to Die was made in there.
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He's like, bro, you got to go get some fucking money, dude.
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You got people eating my fucking pantry out and shit.
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Well, you know how coming from here, bro, they think of Hollywood.
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My mom used to always tell us to get a paper ride or whatever.
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I'm like, everybody goes missing in this neighborhood.
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But yeah, I'm trying to think of the jobs we would get, man.
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How many families in New Orleans have fallen apart over joint-owned snowball stand?
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People down here take them things fucking seriously, bro.
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Depending on the style of shaved ice it is, the quality of the syrup.
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People take that shit mad serious down here.
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Yeah, like we get the syrup fresh from Italy.
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People saying all kind of bullshit or whatever.
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You'll have somebody out of state being like, oh, a snow cone.
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Oh, buddy, Thomas Macaluso used to go to Jesuit.
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He used to make fake IDs, and he was always selling those.
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Macaluso is like a big New Orleans name, I think.
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And he had a snowball stand, and then he opened up an Italian restaurant, bro.
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You can get a snow cone on French bread if you want, bruh.
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Bag shrimp on the side of the road, strawberries.
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I can't tell you how many crawfish shells I see, like, just scattered.
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We wanted to make it nice for you guys, man.
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Like, I know, like, you guys would go abroad and stuff like that.
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Not only that, but we didn't want to go to Russia, Dolo, because we were worried about,
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And, dude, we really had no experience traveling.
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If y'all saw Russia immediately, I would put y'all, dude.
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There was one, my dad ended up being the DJ, and it was funny because we had Scott's
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Didn't we do this all for, like, a thousand bucks, too?
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Somebody hit us up asking if we- He emailed us.
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He was a promoter in Russia asking if we wanted to come over there and play a few shows because
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So, we went to Russia, did Minsk, Belarus, St. Petersburg, and Moscow.
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And my dad's on the MacBook, and we taught him, like, this means press the space bar to
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Yeah, I could tell he was, like, nervous as fuck, and I felt bad.
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They just, they, literally, the whole crowd runs up on the stage.
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I see his dad just sitting there, like, surrounded by people.
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It looked like he was floating, like they were carrying.
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It's just right in Belarus, right outside Russia.
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So, just the fact that you're even saying that.
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To think that you could make something, right?
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That you could make something on the fucking West Bank.
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That you could make something in a parish, just in a small town in Louisiana,
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Yeah, and this year, we went back to Australia and New Zealand.
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I remember after this show, this is what, Minsk?
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Bro, it's like when you're driving with two foot on each pedal.
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I fell off stage in this big-ass Russian bodyguard, bald dude, fucking dead eyes.
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I fall off stage and he just like threw me back on stage.
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They don't have children playing with dolls that are made out of stone and shit.
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Yeah, I ain't going all the way over there, bro.
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What was the place y'all would go eat at and stuff?
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Did y'all ever, when your family would go out to eat when you were kids, was there
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a spot y'all family would go that was kind of a nice place?
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It had that aura to it, you know what I'm saying?
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I don't think we really ever went out as a family when I was younger.
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Oh, dude, when I was growing up, bro, if somebody went to Florida, bro, you thought
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they was the fucking richest guy in the world.
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You'd see somebody had a t-shirt that said Florida on, you'd be like, this motherfucker.
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Look at this fucking Republican over here in Florida.
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There's a lot of Louisiana people in Florida.
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I won't say where, but we're on the panhandle, and it's, yeah, it's a lot of Louisiana transplants.
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Well, Louisiana was some of the first people outside of Florida to realize what a great
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And people lived out there, and let's say they bought a house back then for 30K.
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I mean, they're selling for like 10 million now.
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Well, it's funny because you said about the Florida thing.
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I think it was like if your family from Louisiana goes to Florida for summer vacation, if you
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Your stepdad must have owned a Subway or something.
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Your stepdad owned a Subway, and they'd always go to Destin.
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Your stepdad that owned a K&B or whatever.
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Dude, I got a blowjob from Jared from Subway's sister one time in the corner.
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I mean, I was, no, I would say I was probably about five.
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I mean, I had a pretty small wiener at the time, but I was young, you know.
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They used to have that four-inch round, bro.
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Subway's always like trying new things and getting rid of them.
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Was that before the controversy with her brother?
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That's like right when Jared first started, like, being Jared.
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Yeah, well, it was, yeah, we just, it was just kind of.
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You got to buy a bag of salt and vinegar Miss Vicky's and put it on the sandwich.
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I can't believe you got blown by Jared's sister.
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I forget about it, and then I'm in New Orleans, and I had to say it.
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One time I went and saw Hot Fly Like Paper Get High Like...
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No, it would have probably been neat, but I saw the guy from Step Brothers there at
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Oh, the first show I ever went to was at Rendon Inn.
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Yeah, and we went to there, dude, and it was crazy.
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The biggest, the craziest New Orleans venue was like, I think it was called The Warehouse.
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And all the dads love talking about The Warehouse.
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They saw The Beatles and David Bowie and all this crazy shit, but that place goes down.
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I think, what's his name, played the Riders on the Storm?
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I think he played his last show there, they said.
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My friend Jesse Williamson did a documentary called The Warehouse.
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Yeah, they had a lot of artists go through there.
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Like, by River Road, where, like, Uptown becomes Jefferson.
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Sometimes you don't know of vapes if you're buying them, if they're getting them, if they're
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You'll just be like, it's just like the guy's breath at the counter.
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You're like, this motherfucker just made it.
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The first time we went, no, five years ago when we went, they only had 1% nicotine.
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All the ones that we bought were all these crazy flavors, and we're, like, coughing up
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I don't actually feel, like, out of commission or nothing.
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Yeah, this is a warehouse on Chapitula, so that's where it was.
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But, yeah, that's my buddy Jesse made this documentary.
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Yeah, where did you guys go watch some type of music?
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Like, was there someplace, a venue that you guys went to when you were young?
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I mean, the first show I ever went to was when I was nine.
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My parents thought they snapped by getting me tickets to Britney.
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If you knew his dad, you'd be like, what the fuck?
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I did go to, like, shows when I was a teenager being in bands and stuff.
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I lived in Fat City, so they had Cypress Hall right down the street from the police station
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They used to do shows out by the Burger King on Division and Metairie.
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Me and my friends' bands would put on shows and play.
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And, you know, 100 kids would show up just to have something to do.
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And then they started, after Katrina, a lot of those places closed down.
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And then it became, like, you know, mostly bars and House of Blues.
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But there was a lot of, I was very involved in the music scene when I was younger down here.
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When the Hot Boys were running around, there was so much going on, bro.
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I was more on the North Shore around that time.
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And, yeah, it was throughout all the high school.
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I mean, he and I, we didn't hate each other or anything.
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We were just growing up separately at that point.
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They had a band from the North Shore, Eight Candles or something?
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The dude used to, like, babysit Kyle or some shit, the singer or whatever.
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You grew up next door to that guy from 12 Stones, the singer?
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Bro, I heard a story about that guy that, you know, he's on that song,
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And I heard that they offered him a piece of the song, royalties,
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or, like, just flat out 10 grand, and he took the 10 grand.
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Still, that song's made way more than 60 grand.
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See if you can look up Gabe Hall Cemetery on YouTube.
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He's still rapping now, or is this some old stuff?
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Oh, dude, you're going to have to go deep for this.
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Do you ever chill in the cemeteries in from Louisiana?
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Sometime at Halloween, people would go do stuff over there.
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In our town, people would dig one up every now and then.
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This is the kind of shit that makes me want to fucking lay on my back with no shirt on, bro.
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You just sat on that mausoleum like nobody's business.
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He's got another one where he's on the front porch.
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Every white person I know in Louisiana smokes cigarettes.
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If your mouth's missing, people fucking smoke them through their nose, bro.
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But, dude, the best is his girlfriend's filming this, and she keeps stepping on briars in the grass and yelling at him.
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Like little briars that are in the grass, little sticks.
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I never thought about that, but it's crazy to see the things that people do to put their creativity out there.
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You're not going to see that in any other state.
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Yeah, it's just a different kind of swag right there, bro.
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Was there anything else in the news we wanted to look at?
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Have you ever seen the video of them testing the babes in China?
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Yeah, but them Chinamen, bro, they got a different type of longs, bro.
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I'll be honored to share their fucking DNA, brother.
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Ooh, they hitting them a little too hard, though.
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Because they can't be doing that shit, bro.
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This is fucking breastfeeding in Laplace, homie.
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And I think you guys are just such a place of inspiration for people, you know, even just
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talking with you guys today to see you create your own world, you know, and that it doesn't
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have to be something that mainstream accepts or even sometimes even sees, whether they do
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see it or not, you know, but they don't claim to.
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It's the same thing with podcasting, kind of like.
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It's like, but that's because they're not involved in it.
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Because that's one of the things that's so intriguing about you guys to me is y'all's
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We've actually, we've developed relationships with some of our biggest ones and actually
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brought them in the fold to like help us out with certain stuff.
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I mean, dude, when they, when they tell you, when they're like, dude, you saved my life,
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I mean, it's hard to hear a hundred percent, but the process, yeah, it wasn't, it wasn't
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my intention, but at the same time, and this is, this might be more than like a spiritual
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Um, I feel like I have this responsibility, um, to let these people know that have seen
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us at our worst know that, cause I, I never thought there was a way out.
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And if, if, yeah, there's hope, uh, don't ever give up.
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Like if me and him can do it, bro, we can get drugs delivered on speed dial in the mailbox.
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But if me and him can do it, there's hope for them too.
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Um, and we used to, we used to, when we could, after every show, we would take time out and
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We never liked charging them for meet and greets and stuff like that.
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Like, Oh, someone got more money than this person.
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But now, unfortunately it's, it's, it's gotten too big to where we, we can't do that.
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And when we're on tour, bro, it's not like it's, it's work, dude.
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It's, it's, you gotta be on point every night.
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You know, any little thing you can do, if you smoke a blunt afterwards, it could fuck
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Like there's a lot of stuff that you got to keep in mind.
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And sometimes dude, you know, not every show is good and not every day on tour is fun.
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There's times where like we might be going through it and we have to take some time for ourselves
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Like, I know it sucks that we can't meet you this particular night, but you know,
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I need to like kind of, uh, decompress a little bit.
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You got to make sure the show is good for the next night.
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Um, and yeah, you, people don't realize you want to be as good as you can be for the show
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You know, but now we, dude, we, we, we love and care about them.
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Um, and even if some of them are still using you, there's no, no, but not at all.
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Um, and some, most, a lot of people can, can party and they can do it.
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I tell them that like whenever I, I talk to everybody at the end of the night, I feel
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Like if none of this applies to you, like keep doing what you're doing.
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Fuck if you can have a good time and do and right.
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We've that speech that started at the end real quick.
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So I, I, I was, I was given this sappy, like, or pity me at the end of the, at the end
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of the show that we did at Lollapalooza, but it just somehow it turned into something
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And I mean, dude, one of the guys that works for us, uh, he like helps us run our social
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media accounts and he works with us on tour doing merch.
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We met him as a fan cause he created the G at G five, nine records, Twitter.
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And this was so early that Scott and I hadn't even gotten around to making our own fucking
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Like we had like a few thousand fans, whatever, but he was super in tuned with underground
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And we messaged him being like, yo, can we have that account?
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And then a few months later, we're actually going to do a little Texas tour doing Houston,
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Dallas, a few shows and he's there and he's in Dallas.
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And he was like, we're like, dude, come meet up with us, whatever.
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He also could get us drugs, some Percocet, some Xanax and weed, whatever.
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And we met him and we realized we liked this kid.
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And that's how he became the guy who like runs our social media is through that.
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And like to answer your question, that was a fan who is now part of our team.
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Well, that's how I met Nick, one of our early producers.
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He emailed and just said, hey man, I like the podcast and, and I think I can help.
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You know, that's how there's this kid named Aiden.
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And, um, he's like, hey, I can be your photographer tonight.
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And I was like, all right, we have a photographer.
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I see this dude just walking up by the side of the stage, bro, with his cell phone.
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So the whole time, bro, he got fucking just, he's like laying on his back and shit on the floor.
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But fast forward two years later, he's at the show with his family.
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He's got cameras now and he's a real photographer.
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Hey, at least he was fucking grinding with what he had.
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And he just kind of caught you at the right time.
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I was walking in, coming up the little tour bus and it was just like, you know, hey, what's
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And you kind of respect, you know, sometimes things got to catch you in the right moment.
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But yeah, somebody that can see your Twitter and see that you have a capability before
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The equipment doesn't give you drive or talent.
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Shot with an iPhone and I just edited it on Final Cut.
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He was using GarageBand to make the beats, you know.
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Photoshop, I illegally, I illegally pirated Photoshop and cracked it.
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And the only languages available for Photoshop were Spanish and Hebrew.
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And I chose Spanish because I took Spanish in high school.
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So I learned Photoshop all in Spanish, just like figuring it the fuck out.
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I learned it myself because if you have the drive, you have the talent, the equipment does
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We got gold and platinum records that were done on that free platform that comes when
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That's the whole reason I bought it was because it was free.
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It's one of our biggest songs are royalty-free samples.
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I feel so lucky to have gotten to do this today, man.
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I remember when you showed up at the, I hope, I hope I'm not, yeah, you're pretty open.
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And when you showed up and I, you know, I was, I know how that is and I didn't, I didn't
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Because I know what it's like to be in the meeting and like just kind of sacred.
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Well, I saw him, I was like, this guy's not doing well.
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And then when I left, I sent him a message on Instagram.
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He's like, bro, you know, he's in my fucking meeting.
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I don't remember how, but he's just been such a great guy to get to know, man.
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And I know you have, you know, guys that you support in those rooms.
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Yeah, I'm glad we got a higher power that's trying to help.
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Thank you guys so much just for the inspiration, man.
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I think to so many young artists and people that if you're sitting somewhere thinking,
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That's the advice I always give is, you know, how did you, what did you do to get here?
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Whatever, persistence, consistency, fucking drive, dude.
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And just taking that first step is the biggest step.
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You may think you want to be a fucking rapper or whatever, but you might actually go to do it and realize, I don't want to do this.
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And you're not going to know unless you take that first step.
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You might miss the next thing because you don't go to the first thing.
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Just do the damn thing and everything will start to fall in place at some point if it's supposed to.
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And shout out Tyrell Shaw for this beautiful art, man, for letting us sit in the back here.
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It's a saxophone, so it might not be, but it's a jazz play.
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He's got a studio right over here on, I think this is Child Petula.
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Now I'm just floating on the breeze, and I feel I'm falling like these leaves.
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Oh, but when I reach that ground, I'll share this peace of mind I found.
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And I can feel it in my bones, but it's gonna take...