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00:01:01.240 Today's guests are probably the most requested guests that we've ever had.

00:01:07.660 And that's the truth.

00:01:09.460 They're out of New Orleans, Louisiana, baby.

00:01:12.220 You know that.

00:01:13.440 And that's where we came to spend time with them.

00:01:15.520 Down here on Carondelet Street at the Maison de la Luz Hotel.

00:01:19.860 They have a new album called New World Depression.

00:01:26.540 Nobody's done it like they have.

00:01:28.460 Nobody's fan base is like theirs is.

00:01:31.420 Grateful today to spend time with the Suicide Boys.

00:01:35.000 Shine that light on me.

00:01:41.360 I'll sit and tell you my stories.

00:01:46.600 Shine on me.

00:01:50.920 And I will find a song.

00:01:54.200 I've been singing just before.

00:01:56.600 I've been waiting to bust these out.

00:02:05.660 You picked a good day to do it.

00:02:06.600 Yeah.

00:02:07.080 I might retire them after today, too.

00:02:09.780 No, man.

00:02:10.640 You got to do that.

00:02:11.320 For you, brother?

00:02:12.100 Yes.

00:02:12.900 For you?

00:02:13.860 Yes.

00:02:14.640 For Christmas or something, you got to bring them bitches back.

00:02:17.560 All right.

00:02:18.200 Christmas or...

00:02:19.640 Where do you spend Christmas normally?

00:02:21.080 You come back to Louisiana?

00:02:22.200 Yeah.

00:02:22.580 You have family stuff?

00:02:23.720 Yeah, every time.

00:02:24.360 My family still lives over in Mandeville.

00:02:27.380 No, do they?

00:02:28.060 Big Mandeville.

00:02:29.080 So was it Covington or Mandeville?

00:02:30.760 I grew up in Covington and I moved over to Mandeville.

00:02:32.880 I got you.

00:02:33.900 Where at?

00:02:34.540 Should we save this?

00:02:35.740 This stuff we want to save?

00:02:36.920 This part of the chat?

00:02:38.760 Oh, we are?

00:02:39.160 Oh, we are?

00:02:39.620 Roll it up, baby.

00:02:41.340 Yeah.

00:02:42.040 I grew up in Covington down by Lee Road or whatever.

00:02:46.020 By this street.

00:02:47.080 It was down there.

00:02:47.840 The Lee Road, boys.

00:02:48.900 Oh, bro.

00:02:49.540 Woo!

00:02:50.380 A lot of people, dude.

00:02:51.520 A lot of homemade tattoos, body work.

00:02:54.100 Yeah.

00:02:54.840 Where they handle business and they'll bury you.

00:02:58.660 You know what I'm saying?

00:02:59.560 Oh, dude.

00:03:00.140 They got kind of BYO chiropractor shit going on.

00:03:03.900 Like that kind of shit.

00:03:04.860 You know what I'm saying?

00:03:05.620 Yeah.

00:03:05.820 That shit.

00:03:06.440 They'll hook like a winch to your leg and try to...

00:03:10.360 Like a truck, you know?

00:03:11.860 My dad was in jail.

00:03:12.520 Like they're pulling you out the mud.

00:03:13.820 They'll try to fix your hip like that.

00:03:15.300 My dad was in jail with a Lee Road boy and it was his roommate and that's...

00:03:19.840 I got it.

00:03:20.820 He took care of them, bro.

00:03:22.360 You know what I'm saying?

00:03:23.240 Yeah.

00:03:23.420 Like he knew the ropes.

00:03:24.600 He took care of them.

00:03:25.680 But that's...

00:03:26.560 Blair.

00:03:27.420 You remember Blair?

00:03:28.140 Did you ever meet Blair?

00:03:28.960 Oh, yeah.

00:03:29.420 I did flooring with him and shit when we first started.

00:03:31.740 Land Tiledown?

00:03:32.520 Yeah.

00:03:33.060 Take Xanax?

00:03:33.860 Yeah.

00:03:34.740 Oh, yeah.

00:03:35.860 Oh, flooring is a gateway drug, I feel like.

00:03:38.480 Yeah.

00:03:40.660 Bro.

00:03:41.260 How is that not?

00:03:42.300 I went to that job sober one day.

00:03:44.080 In Louisiana, it fucking is.

00:03:45.280 I went to that job sober for one day just because I didn't have shit, bro, and I was

00:03:49.900 assed out.

00:03:50.700 So I went there sober for one day and by lunchtime, I was willing to suck some dick for something.

00:03:57.560 Hey, bro.

00:03:58.160 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:03:59.160 Straight up.

00:03:59.460 Some female dick, let's say that.

00:04:01.320 Yeah, that's cool.

00:04:02.240 So 2024 dick.

00:04:03.520 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:04:04.680 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:04:05.520 My friend had a joke of how people in Louisiana, like blue-collar guys, workers, they'll verbally

00:04:12.180 express their resume to you to hire them, but their resume is like, oh, I don't do pills

00:04:15.480 no more.

00:04:15.980 I do good work, whatever, and that's how they get the job.

00:04:19.440 I'd rather hire you if you do do pills.

00:04:20.940 They do better work.

00:04:22.140 90-degree angles only, bro.

00:04:24.060 One dude told me once.

00:04:25.560 They own it.

00:04:25.960 Yeah, that's what we expected.

00:04:27.340 When I was off that shit, bro, I was on it, bro.

00:04:29.380 Really?

00:04:29.840 Employee of the month.

00:04:30.860 Nuh-uh.

00:04:32.080 Depends on which specific one it was.

00:04:33.880 Oh, yeah.

00:04:34.160 When I was managing a restaurant, Xanax was not my friend.

00:04:37.480 I'd let them do whatever they wanted.

00:04:39.040 I think that's where me and you differ.

00:04:40.920 They were all my friends.

00:04:42.640 Really?

00:04:43.340 Yeah, some were better friends than others.

00:04:44.920 Well, if you want to get into that.

00:04:46.460 I mean, who was a better, I don't know if there's a term for better drug user.

00:04:50.620 I wasn't good at it.

00:04:51.880 I think I was too sensitive with drugs.

00:04:55.980 Scott and I were both way too good at it.

00:04:57.860 He started young.

00:04:59.540 He started young.

00:05:00.060 I started young.

00:05:00.620 I started young.

00:05:02.940 And then basically by 16, by 16, I had my first pain pill.

00:05:11.380 I was drinking before that.

00:05:12.560 And every time I drank, I blacked out.

00:05:14.540 Like, you know what I'm talking about.

00:05:15.900 I couldn't help it.

00:05:16.900 So you would do it every time?

00:05:17.920 Oh, yeah.

00:05:18.240 Every time.

00:05:19.020 It wasn't like that.

00:05:19.500 Scott was balls to the walls.

00:05:20.760 Balls to the wall every time.

00:05:21.620 Yeah.

00:05:22.100 That was it.

00:05:22.700 Yeah.

00:05:22.980 I had no control whatsoever.

00:05:24.220 But I took my first pain pill at 16.

00:05:26.680 And then from then, I was like, fuck, I want to feel like this every day.

00:05:31.620 Like, I get it now.

00:05:32.980 Because I grew up, the way I grew up, I hated all that shit from just growing up how I did.

00:05:38.820 And I was like, I'm never going to touch any of that shit.

00:05:41.540 And I didn't for a long time until I did.

00:05:43.720 And then once I did, you know, it's like, I get it.

00:05:46.120 This is what something's done, yeah.

00:05:46.560 I get it now.

00:05:47.540 I get why.

00:05:48.820 So from 16 on to 2019, every day, yeah, it was everyday balls to the wall.

00:05:56.760 It started with pain pills, went to stronger pain pills, went to heroin.

00:06:02.120 Then the worst he got was toward the end where I was just speedballing all day.

00:06:08.180 Like 20 Adderall a day, 20 Xanax a day to calm me down from that.

00:06:13.860 That's the Louisiana speedball.

00:06:15.000 Yeah.

00:06:15.280 Yeah, that's the, yeah.

00:06:17.040 And then, you know, whatever, opiates, we can get fentanyl patches, whatever, dude.

00:06:22.200 Oh, yeah.

00:06:22.680 People will do pickleback heroin in the Louisiana.

00:06:25.040 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:06:25.920 People will be like, what are you doing, bro?

00:06:28.460 Shit, that drug's always been super prevalent down here, especially in New Orleans, you know.

00:06:33.920 Yeah.

00:06:34.260 What about your, like your first, do you remember taking your first pain pill ever or no?

00:06:38.040 I do.

00:06:38.780 I do.

00:06:39.500 Wow.

00:06:40.060 I had surgery when I was 13.

00:06:41.280 I had two ankles, two screws put in my ankles for a skateboarding injury that I got into when I was 13.

00:06:47.740 And they did surgery.

00:06:49.480 And then I was prescribed Vicodin.

00:06:51.040 And I would just like lay in my bed.

00:06:53.260 The Vicodin pill bottle would be like above on my headboard.

00:06:55.680 And like every few hours, I was supposed to take one.

00:06:58.040 And I got hooked.

00:07:00.760 And after I got recovered and I started like being a teenager and being social and all that stuff, that's what I wanted to find was painkillers.

00:07:07.840 Oh, yeah.

00:07:08.400 I remember once I took a couple of somas, bro, and I didn't, I felt like I didn't have any arms for almost half a day.

00:07:13.760 Well, like the Trinity is supposed to be a Percocet, a Soma, and a Xanax.

00:07:18.660 You ever seen the pharmacist that like documentary on that?

00:07:21.020 Yeah, that's all like pill mills back here.

00:07:23.020 Yeah, that's y'all, yeah.

00:07:24.100 Pill mills.

00:07:25.120 Yeah, that was the thing, bro.

00:07:26.140 It was like 200 Lord tabs, 180 Xanax, and 120 Soma.

00:07:32.280 It was like the Trinity that they prescribed to everyone.

00:07:34.920 Yeah, oh, I remember they busted a mall Santa in Terrytown with like 100 Somas on them or something.

00:07:40.620 Shout out Big Terrytown.

00:07:42.080 Yeah.

00:07:42.620 Yeah, bro.

00:07:43.240 A town full of so many Terrys, they named it after them.

00:07:45.820 It's crazy.

00:07:46.420 Hey, Terry will get your floor in, bro.

00:07:49.160 Some dudes, they were so fucked up, they put flooring on the ceiling, bro.

00:07:54.100 You're like, damn, bro, this dude put flooring on everything, bro.

00:07:57.860 Oh, my God, dude.

00:07:58.740 They'll floor your yard in Louisiana, bro.

00:08:01.060 They don't give a fuck, dude.

00:08:02.500 They'll floor a baby crib.

00:08:04.060 They'll floor it down, bro.

00:08:05.560 New tile for the baby crib.

00:08:06.240 They'll floor your grandfather, bro.

00:08:07.860 You leave him sitting around long enough.

00:08:09.700 The mausoleum's got new tiles.

00:08:10.960 Yeah, fucking right.

00:08:12.000 That's crazy.

00:08:13.040 You guys, that's crazy.

00:08:15.640 You remember your first pain pill.

00:08:17.220 Oh, yeah.

00:08:17.500 That's crazy to think of how strong they are and how powerful they are, that that's like

00:08:20.860 a core memory.

00:08:21.920 Bro, it's like a very euphoric, like, it's almost like a coming to Jesus moment.

00:08:26.640 Like, it's like this, ah.

00:08:27.720 Mine happened in a different situation.

00:08:31.040 My papa had passed away when I was 16, and he was like my dad.

00:08:38.600 You know, me and him were super tired.

00:08:40.800 I loved that man.

00:08:41.440 And when he passed away, you know, I came across a pain pill.

00:08:46.700 Coping with the sadness?

00:08:47.620 Yeah.

00:08:47.840 And I, you know, at that point, I was just like, you know, like, this is too painful.

00:08:51.180 I can't deal with this.

00:08:52.460 Fuck it.

00:08:54.760 And, you know, he had his funeral that day.

00:08:57.120 And for me, it had the opposite effect.

00:08:59.220 I didn't get sick.

00:09:01.000 I didn't get tired.

00:09:02.580 I got, I felt like great.

00:09:04.260 I know.

00:09:04.440 I felt you for, you know what I'm saying?

00:09:07.680 Like, I was running around the funeral home.

00:09:09.840 I gave, I gave a eulogy.

00:09:11.180 Everybody standing and giving me.

00:09:13.020 You'll give a goddamn emancipation proclamation.

00:09:16.120 He only, look, I will say to the day, to this day, I've heard it's the only eulogy with

00:09:20.620 a trap beat behind it.

00:09:23.080 So I am saying that that's the rumor going around now.

00:09:27.420 A little bit.

00:09:28.940 Dang, that's crazy.

00:09:30.180 So do you think you would have been able to get that eulogy if you weren't on the appeals?

00:09:33.060 No.

00:09:33.680 Wow.

00:09:34.180 So that's.

00:09:34.640 I was too hurt.

00:09:35.980 I wonder if that's how, like, I wonder if that, was that like the first time you ever

00:09:40.300 like kind of spoke?

00:09:41.640 Like, it was the first time in my life that I was comfortable in my skin.

00:09:47.140 That I felt like my whole life, I like, there was something off.

00:09:51.320 Like, I didn't belong here.

00:09:53.020 You know what I'm saying?

00:09:53.760 Like, I could never be comfortable in my own skin.

00:09:56.660 That was the first time where that happened to me.

00:10:00.080 I felt good.

00:10:01.000 I didn't have a care in the world.

00:10:03.660 Yeah.

00:10:04.080 And I was like, I made it a point.

00:10:07.220 I told myself, I remember, I'm going to feel like this every day for the rest of my life.

00:10:13.000 And that's what I set out to do from the time I woke up to the time I went to sleep.

00:10:17.880 And that's.

00:10:19.380 So how does music even get started then by you guys if y'all are already.

00:10:24.320 Well.

00:10:25.520 It's hard to get a pill head to finish painting the baseboards, dude.

00:10:29.420 I'm probably the most productive.

00:10:30.480 If you hold pills above their head, you can get them to do anything you want.

00:10:34.120 Anything you want.

00:10:34.980 They'll do it.

00:10:36.000 You know, and I don't know.

00:10:38.960 Our paths started differently.

00:10:40.580 Yeah.

00:10:40.760 And it wasn't like we were so fucked in the beginning.

00:10:43.300 Like, it was very much a fun thing.

00:10:45.720 And we were ignorant and thinking like that, that story that you hear about death in jail,

00:10:50.740 that's not going to happen to us because we're smarter than that.

00:10:53.040 We know how to do this the right way.

00:10:54.760 But, you know, give it 10 years and we're at that point.

00:10:57.980 Yeah.

00:10:58.520 Yeah.

00:10:58.880 So the music always came first.

00:11:01.700 It was never drugs first.

00:11:02.880 The music was always first.

00:11:03.800 And then at some point it kind of got, the lines got blurred a little bit.

00:11:07.160 But.

00:11:07.640 Yeah.

00:11:07.820 So then who, who starts the music first, man?

00:11:10.280 Because one thing that's crazy about you guys' music, I was listening to so much over

00:11:13.480 the past month trying to like decipher like, okay, is there a certain beat?

00:11:18.340 Like, where did some of the sounds come from?

00:11:20.860 Like little things.

00:11:21.740 Sometimes I hear a little bit of like Bone Thug, maybe I would hear.

00:11:25.220 You used to get that so much when we first started.

00:11:27.480 Did you really?

00:11:28.340 We used to get compared to Bone Thugs all the time.

00:11:30.340 But then sometimes I would be watching, I would almost think of that movie Gummo or

00:11:33.880 something a little bit.

00:11:34.760 Do you ever see that movie?

00:11:35.440 I've never, I've never seen Gummo.

00:11:36.600 He's seen a lot of movies.

00:11:37.680 It's super artistic and like, like bizarre.

00:11:42.260 It's very bizarre.

00:11:43.280 And kind of like off violent kind of like, yeah.

00:11:48.460 I mean, even just looking at that picture.

00:11:49.720 It's disturbing.

00:11:50.380 Like, it's a disturbing movie.

00:11:51.940 And I was like, this shit, it's like, it feels, it's, it's music, but it feels like

00:11:57.920 a disturbance.

00:11:59.660 That's what you guys start, like some of y'all's stuff feels like that to me.

00:12:03.400 Yeah.

00:12:03.640 Like I want to disturb shit.

00:12:05.500 Yeah.

00:12:05.640 We want to disturb shit.

00:12:06.660 We want to make people feel weird.

00:12:08.060 We want to make people feel, I don't know.

00:12:10.120 At first we were super edgy, like just saying crazy shit just to see reactions out of people.

00:12:15.020 I'm sort of shock factor.

00:12:16.200 Shock value, all that thing.

00:12:17.460 But you must've liked that.

00:12:19.260 Like there's a thing that you, you know what I'm saying?

00:12:20.860 Like when, like.

00:12:21.720 I just like, I like pressing buttons.

00:12:23.420 Yeah.

00:12:24.180 For me, I grew up on like, um, three, six.

00:12:27.500 That was, that was my biggest influence.

00:12:30.100 Which is like the spine of suicide.

00:12:31.540 Yeah, yeah, like old Memphis music from like the nineties.

00:12:35.440 And my uncle put me on that when I was like eight years old and I just got obsessed.

00:12:39.560 Um, but other than that, I, I, I came from more of like a trap music background, like trap

00:12:46.020 house, dope deal.

00:12:47.600 Yeah.

00:12:48.040 All that shit.

00:12:49.140 And then, yeah, him from the punk background and like hip hop.

00:12:53.500 I was on the hip hop tip.

00:12:54.620 Yeah.

00:12:54.920 I was like an old head at like 25 years old.

00:12:57.460 Yeah.

00:12:57.840 Yeah.

00:12:58.320 You know, I was, I was bringing like boom, I was like, this isn't philosophical enough for me.

00:13:03.300 Yeah.

00:13:03.320 Hatin.

00:13:03.640 Yeah.

00:13:04.220 That's where we differ also.

00:13:05.880 Yeah.

00:13:05.940 But he made me realize that I was, I was taking myself way too seriously as far as like my taste

00:13:10.340 in music goes.

00:13:11.180 Yeah.

00:13:11.580 And I think a lot of people from new Orleans have like this elitist taste in music because you know,

00:13:15.560 the city's pretty like, you know, there's music everywhere, every day, every night, there's

00:13:19.200 music all over the place.

00:13:20.200 So I think growing up here, you kind of like, at least I did develop this elite taste and

00:13:24.780 he's the one that kind of knocked me down a couple of pegs.

00:13:27.300 And I realized, Oh, some music is just fun.

00:13:29.920 Yeah.

00:13:30.100 It doesn't have to be so serious, like with a message and shit.

00:13:32.680 Yeah.

00:13:33.180 Yeah.

00:13:33.460 That's the vibe I get from like, and even getting a, go to, uh, go to one of y'all's shows,

00:13:38.640 like, just like there's this legion of people that want to just have this experience.

00:13:44.880 Yeah.

00:13:45.240 You know, they want to be in this like disturbing moment, you know, like they like the song,

00:13:51.720 the song, but it's almost like they're anthems too, to them.

00:13:54.340 Yeah.

00:13:54.740 That's a good word.

00:13:55.480 To feelings that they have.

00:13:56.460 It's interesting.

00:13:57.140 That's a good way to put it, bro.

00:13:58.540 Dude, it's a lot of, a lot of these kids are like misfits and outcasts and weirdos.

00:14:02.040 And like he said, never felt comfortable in his own skin.

00:14:04.140 I can relate to that very well, you know, myself.

00:14:07.300 So I think we provide a place for these kids to feel like they're surrounded by their people.

00:14:12.640 Yeah.

00:14:13.000 And they come and they like.

00:14:14.040 It's like, yeah.

00:14:14.800 And it's like this, it's emotional, like, um, they can like get their emotions out by

00:14:20.520 getting in the pit or yelling lyrics or like, you know, maybe you'll meet a girl there.

00:14:24.520 You might meet your best friend there.

00:14:26.080 I always like to think that after these shows, like these kids stay in touch and like, it's

00:14:31.100 like whole community.

00:14:31.780 And they do, I've seen it.

00:14:33.760 They do.

00:14:34.260 And I think they, they share a connection with us, which I love because I don't, I don't

00:14:40.460 ever want them to, to look at us as, I want us to be humanized to them.

00:14:46.840 For sure.

00:14:47.300 Oh, it felt like a dude.

00:14:48.160 When I was there, I remember even going from backstage and being around the people that

00:14:52.260 the night I was there, I think you guys had Shakewell, uh, Nashville and, uh, who else?

00:14:59.800 Um, tall black dude.

00:15:01.480 Germ.

00:15:02.160 Nyla Vell.

00:15:02.620 Nyla Vell was there.

00:15:03.740 Shakewell.

00:15:04.260 Cheddar was there.

00:15:05.100 Um, he had turnstile, uh, you know, not that he, who, you, who, you know, and he wasn't

00:15:11.680 there.

00:15:12.680 Um, yeah.

00:15:14.380 Cheddar was there, but I remember from even just the people that were backstage, the people

00:15:19.060 working with you, with y'all to the crowd.

00:15:21.760 I couldn't tell the difference between who the fuck was who anyway.

00:15:24.220 You know what I'm saying?

00:15:25.340 I accused seven of people to be in there.

00:15:27.100 I'm Shakewell and Cheddar.

00:15:28.860 Yeah.

00:15:29.180 I met two girls that look like Cheddar.

00:15:33.360 And look, Cheddar's a handsome guy.

00:15:34.880 He's a good looking dude.

00:15:35.860 And they were pretty girls.

00:15:37.020 I'm just saying, it was like, I'm just saying that it, it's just, it feel like all the same

00:15:41.640 people.

00:15:42.120 It just feels like, um, it doesn't feel like there's a uniform.

00:15:46.840 It's like, yeah, it doesn't feel like you guys are in like a superior place.

00:15:50.800 I don't ever want anyone to feel like I think I'm better than him.

00:15:56.500 I, I, I don't like that.

00:15:57.980 You know what I'm saying?

00:15:58.760 I don't, I don't like that at all.

00:16:00.860 I never want to be looked at as if I like punched down or anything like, uh,

00:16:05.480 yeah, no, I, I, I hope I would never put myself out there to, to be looked at in that

00:16:10.400 light because I don't feel like I'm better than even the, even the people that come to

00:16:13.920 the show, dude, I don't feel like I'm better than any of the people that are helping us

00:16:17.380 at the shows and, and working and putting the sets together and, and, and security.

00:16:21.560 Every night, the security and then the venue workers.

00:16:24.280 Cause it's true without them, you know, it takes a lot of people to throw a show and

00:16:27.960 to throw a tour.

00:16:29.180 And it's not just all about the glitz and the glamor because we, people know our names

00:16:33.600 and our faces.

00:16:34.580 You know, a lot of people put hard work into this and, you know, Scott and I have been

00:16:38.560 able to remain humble throughout all of this.

00:16:40.280 And we love meeting the fans and, and, and, uh, talking with them, but we do have our

00:16:46.400 boundaries and I will, we've never been a dick to the fans, except if they deserved

00:16:51.000 it.

00:16:51.540 You know, I use that word loosely, but you know, kind of crossing that boundaries and

00:16:55.420 posing on our personal space a little too much to where we have to say something.

00:16:58.280 Yeah.

00:16:58.500 So no, you gotta, you also have to, I got into it with a commie in my comments the other

00:17:02.180 day, you know, like shit like that.

00:17:03.400 A communist guy?

00:17:04.100 Yeah.

00:17:04.340 Yeah.

00:17:04.660 Oh yeah.

00:17:05.620 He said he was going to come take all my shit.

00:17:07.840 So I had to let him know.

00:17:10.660 Come redistribute it.

00:17:11.600 Come try.

00:17:12.180 Yeah.

00:17:12.520 Dude, to take all somebody's shit, that would take two or three days, bro.

00:17:15.500 You can't.

00:17:16.220 He told me I was outnumbered.

00:17:17.760 So I don't know.

00:17:18.280 He had an ex girl.

00:17:19.080 I'm sorry.

00:17:19.380 This is too much, but he had an ex girl take all his shit out of his house in a couple

00:17:21.940 of days.

00:17:22.400 Oh yeah.

00:17:23.260 It's possible.

00:17:24.460 It's possible.

00:17:25.160 I was in, I was in rehab with a, with a bag of underwear, some shirts from H and M that

00:17:29.660 Kyle bought me for rehab and like fucking 10 grand left to my name.

00:17:34.440 Which sounds like a lot to some people, but you know, I mean, at that time, bro, I probably,

00:17:39.720 I had like a million dollar house and what?

00:17:42.900 A million dollars you would say.

00:17:44.400 And I was, that's what I was down to.

00:17:46.640 So yeah.

00:17:47.240 Wow.

00:17:48.200 Yeah, dude.

00:17:48.880 Well, it's funny because sometimes when you go to rehab and shit, people will pack a bag

00:17:52.460 and the most thing they put in there the most, bro, underpants, bro.

00:17:56.620 It's almost like, it's important, but it's like, bro, at least help me.

00:17:59.700 I was like, I'll figure the rest out.

00:18:01.220 You know what I'm saying?

00:18:02.040 You'll see somebody in rehab wearing like underpants as a shirt, bro.

00:18:05.260 Oh, bro.

00:18:05.500 I went to, I went to like Target before I went to rehab and just bought all cozy, comfortable

00:18:09.260 clothes.

00:18:10.000 I didn't give a shit.

00:18:11.080 Ruby's in a bunch of onesies.

00:18:14.680 That is something he would do.

00:18:16.520 I mean, you can't go anywhere.

00:18:18.060 You can't do anything.

00:18:18.960 You don't have a phone.

00:18:19.820 So what's the point in like trying to dress and impress?

00:18:22.280 Ruby's got one of those portable fireplaces you got going on.

00:18:25.540 They had Roku's in the, um, so when you guys first start putting the tunes together, then

00:18:31.620 how does that kind of happen?

00:18:32.700 I mean, I know there's a lot of lore out there, but I just want my fan base to know too, man,

00:18:35.700 that, you know, you guys are out of Louisiana.

00:18:37.300 You guys have created this universe that's really super unique, man.

00:18:41.220 Like you guys's thing is, um, it's its own thing.

00:18:45.260 Thank you, bro.

00:18:45.640 It's its own fan base.

00:18:47.460 It's its own.

00:18:48.740 I never know who will be a Suicide Boys fan.

00:18:51.800 That's actually a good point.

00:18:52.760 That's a good point, bro.

00:18:53.740 It trips me out too, bro.

00:18:55.880 I don't think we, we haven't gotten used to any of this either, bro.

00:18:59.620 Like even, even coming here today, it was like really nerve wracking, you know, we're

00:19:03.600 really introverted.

00:19:04.360 But as far as the music, I mean, when you say like, how does it get created?

00:19:08.240 Are you talking about like from a creative standpoint when we get together and actually

00:19:12.420 make the song or like, like how did we get together and get to this point?

00:19:16.420 Like the origin or like, yeah, I know you guys are cousins, right?

00:19:18.540 I know you guys have that family.

00:19:19.880 I mean, I even think that you guys look alike.

00:19:21.400 People tell you that a lot.

00:19:22.220 Our moms are sisters.

00:19:23.600 Oh yeah.

00:19:24.540 He looks kind of like my brother, but I don't think we've ever gotten compared to us personally.

00:19:28.060 Maybe when we were younger.

00:19:29.180 Yeah.

00:19:29.560 When we were younger.

00:19:30.540 But it's just a, it's the kind of wildest sound or feeling or thing that come out of

00:19:35.040 New Orleans.

00:19:35.460 It's, it's really interesting because you wouldn't think it if, if say, if you played you guys

00:19:39.360 music for people from, you know, and they were like, where do you think this came out

00:19:42.920 of?

00:19:43.500 I don't know if they would say.

00:19:44.560 Yeah.

00:19:44.840 Right.

00:19:45.180 I don't know if they wouldn't.

00:19:46.260 Right.

00:19:46.420 I agree.

00:19:46.800 But, um, it's just what you guys have is so unique.

00:19:49.500 It's not mainstream.

00:19:50.380 It's your own thing.

00:19:51.100 It's huge.

00:19:52.160 I mean, you guys play, uh, you guys are playing arenas, you know, it's like, it's fucking

00:19:56.280 crazy.

00:19:56.880 Yeah, it is.

00:19:57.500 And it's kind of, it's all you, it's all you and your fans thing.

00:20:01.380 Right.

00:20:01.720 That's what I think is feels like it's y'all's thing.

00:20:03.760 It almost feels, I almost feel like an outsider even getting to spend time with you in a way.

00:20:08.220 Right.

00:20:08.620 I mean, I, I, you and I are close and, um, and I'm grateful to, you know, we're both from Louisiana,

00:20:14.320 but, um, and so I'm grateful.

00:20:16.260 I'm grateful for it, but still, I know that that's y'all's world.

00:20:19.080 Right.

00:20:19.920 And, um, so I guess what I'm asking, yeah.

00:20:23.000 Like, how does that first thing start to kick off and how do you know you're making something

00:20:26.600 that you feel brave enough to put out there or were you just wait or were you just kind

00:20:30.860 of.

00:20:31.440 So I, he started off like he, he used to rap and, and he was, you were, you were in a

00:20:37.280 lot of bands growing up.

00:20:38.700 Um, my, my path was different.

00:20:40.860 I started off DJing when I was 13, I was listening to Q93, you know, and DJ Rowe was on there and

00:20:48.800 he was, uh, it was the first time I ever heard someone blend two songs together and it tripped

00:20:54.340 me out.

00:20:54.760 So my parents got me like this little a hundred dollar, um, DJ set up for Christmas.

00:20:59.760 And I started from there out fast forward, you know, I'm DJing parties, all that, um,

00:21:05.480 throughout high school.

00:21:07.280 And that was some fire hub.

00:21:08.660 Well, Friday, yeah, it went down, it went down.

00:21:12.520 Kyle knows it went down.

00:21:13.920 People needed you.

00:21:15.020 We had some good times, bro.

00:21:16.720 It was, it was wild.

00:21:17.920 Um, legendary times.

00:21:20.180 Uh, and then 19 fast forward.

00:21:23.380 I'm about 19 and that's when I got into producing and, uh, engineering, like recording people and

00:21:29.580 mixing.

00:21:29.940 I never really wanted to rap.

00:21:31.320 I would do it for fun, but I never, I thought it was whack to be white and be a rapper.

00:21:36.720 I didn't see too many out there that pulled it off.

00:21:39.140 Good.

00:21:39.540 Yeah.

00:21:39.920 You got to really know you can do it.

00:21:41.660 Yeah.

00:21:41.840 So I was like, I always felt like my place was more behind the scenes.

00:21:45.880 And then, um, I'd made a couple of mixtapes for fun while, uh, on like my off days when

00:21:52.660 I was working at the furniture store, he reaches back out.

00:21:55.600 He was telling furniture, bro.

00:21:57.100 Wine Accord.

00:21:57.760 Signing used furniture.

00:21:59.160 Yeah, bro.

00:22:00.520 Who was it for, bro?

00:22:01.620 What furniture?

00:22:02.060 Wine Accord.

00:22:03.280 Yeah, Wine Accord, bro.

00:22:04.360 Yeah.

00:22:04.480 Dude, I rented some shit for a fucking Wine Accord one time.

00:22:08.800 During Katrina, I had an apartment or something and we put some furniture in there.

00:22:12.380 Some Wine Accord, bro.

00:22:13.760 And somebody, uh, yeah, some dude stole, like, we had three Ottomans in that bitch, bro.

00:22:18.440 Yeah.

00:22:18.940 Some dude took just the Ottomans.

00:22:20.540 That was a crazy thing, you know?

00:22:22.100 You don't see a lot of just solely Ottoman, uh, theft.

00:22:25.400 Yeah, nah.

00:22:26.180 I don't.

00:22:26.960 You can take the love seat, bro.

00:22:29.100 Because who's going to lay on the floor and just put their feet up?

00:22:31.560 He must have been desperate, bro.

00:22:33.880 So that guy's a real adventure, guy.

00:22:35.360 Yeah, I like it.

00:22:36.260 I like his style.

00:22:37.700 I wouldn't even be mad at him, you know what I'm saying?

00:22:39.860 If you're just taking the Ottomans, I ain't even.

00:22:41.700 So when people came in the door, were you showing the furniture?

00:22:44.060 Oh, yeah, bro.

00:22:44.980 Oh, my.

00:22:45.440 Like, bro, if I could, fuck it, that would be my dream, dude, if I showed up and you got

00:22:49.200 to show me.

00:22:49.620 I had to fade back then.

00:22:51.920 My face had to be shaved.

00:22:54.220 I had to wear makeup on my hands at one point, because I got my hands tattooed, which ultimately

00:22:59.120 got me fired.

00:23:00.980 But I worked there for, like, three years.

00:23:04.320 And then we were, like, we would keep in touch with each other.

00:23:07.900 He would hit me up, and I think it was around, yeah, it was when I got fired.

00:23:12.680 I don't know if you had just graduated from Loyola, but he wanted to come and film a music

00:23:19.920 video for one of my songs, which I thought he was trolling me the whole time.

00:23:24.640 You know, I was like, I was like, no, the first time he's fucking with me, but he's the

00:23:29.520 one that convinced me.

00:23:31.860 He's like, nah, you're actually pretty good at rapping, bro.

00:23:34.160 You should take this serious.

00:23:35.240 And then from there, that's how we linked up.

00:23:38.460 We did that video.

00:23:39.320 And then G59 came about, because that was like a little click back in, like, high school.

00:23:48.100 And even a little bit after high school, we thought we were thugs, bro.

00:23:50.820 We thought we were gangsters and shit.

00:23:52.800 Oh, yeah.

00:23:53.920 And everybody on the east side of Highway 59, and our color was gray.

00:23:58.280 We thought we were banging and shit.

00:23:59.560 We thought we were bad.

00:24:00.340 And a lot of those guys either died from drug overdoses or got in trouble or some shit.

00:24:07.500 So, but we kept the name alive by, like, we got together.

00:24:12.820 We're like, all right, you know, let's.

00:24:14.560 The name was already there.

00:24:15.620 Yeah.

00:24:15.920 Why not make it something?

00:24:16.580 He was, yeah.

00:24:17.260 Adi was the one that pointed that out.

00:24:18.940 Like, let's roll with this.

00:24:20.760 Well, I just thought G59, Gray59, was a hard-ass fucking name.

00:24:23.980 And he was already repping it.

00:24:25.160 So I figured we linked up.

00:24:26.520 Why not just run with that?

00:24:27.620 Yeah.

00:24:28.100 You know.

00:24:28.720 Anything I missed?

00:24:30.140 I was actually going to say.

00:24:31.420 Besides your side.

00:24:32.380 No, no, no.

00:24:32.620 I was just, I was going to say, it's funny because when he started making beats back in, like,

00:24:36.820 2008, 2009, he bought a MacBook.

00:24:39.520 Started making beats.

00:24:40.260 And around that time, I was getting really into, like, hip-hop and currency and stuff,

00:24:43.640 like, being from down here.

00:24:44.800 Yeah.

00:24:45.440 And he was telling me he was making beats.

00:24:47.320 And I was like, yo, can you show me how you do this?

00:24:49.100 Like, I would be interested in learning.

00:24:52.160 He's like, yeah, I got you.

00:24:52.820 And he's like, show me how he does it.

00:24:54.040 And he taught me how to make beats.

00:24:56.100 And it's just so funny that now we're still doing the same shit.

00:24:58.240 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:24:59.280 You know?

00:24:59.620 Yeah.

00:25:00.100 So it just kind of evolved from there.

00:25:01.640 And then you start putting on shows locally?

00:25:03.460 Yeah.

00:25:03.800 We would use, we would book shows on, like, in the North Shore and Baton Rouge or whatever.

00:25:07.520 Because, all right, let me be real with you.

00:25:08.900 We knew no one was going to come.

00:25:10.740 Yeah.

00:25:10.940 No one knew who the fuck we were.

00:25:12.040 We were just starting out, dude.

00:25:13.140 So we knew, we didn't expect anybody to come.

00:25:15.340 And we would use those live shows as practice to see what is going to work, what's not going

00:25:20.420 to work, the things we can do to fuck with the crowd and all that stuff.

00:25:23.480 And at first-

00:25:24.300 We did a lot of open mics, too.

00:25:25.500 A lot of open mics.

00:25:26.400 Wow.

00:25:26.780 Open mic?

00:25:27.440 One of them.

00:25:27.940 We actually won one of them.

00:25:28.240 Performing or just as comedy or as music?

00:25:30.220 No, as music.

00:25:31.260 It was like bands and rappers.

00:25:32.160 To win, like, $1,000.

00:25:33.900 Right, right.

00:25:34.680 Win $1,000 unlimited.

00:25:36.380 A waste.

00:25:36.600 And on our third time we did it, we finally, we won.

00:25:39.400 We won and we just took all that money and bought t-shirts, like blanks.

00:25:43.720 And then we just printed all our own t-shirts.

00:25:45.620 Yeah.

00:25:45.960 We would literally text people, like, want to buy one?

00:25:48.420 And then Scott would, like, drive it to them and deliver.

00:25:50.940 Yeah.

00:25:51.260 Yeah.

00:25:51.540 Bro, that's still what you guys, this whole thing feels like to me.

00:25:54.540 Not, it doesn't feel small like that, but it feels like that.

00:25:57.820 Well, dude.

00:25:58.320 Because I'll see, like, fonts and things and it's like, I don't understand it because

00:26:02.160 I haven't known the music from the beginning, right?

00:26:04.360 Yeah.

00:26:04.560 So I'm like, oh, this is their world.

00:26:06.600 But it's just beloved in that space, you know?

00:26:09.000 Yeah.

00:26:09.460 And it's interesting that you say that because, fuck, what did you just say?

00:26:14.620 Remind me what you just said?

00:26:16.200 Yeah, you drove, you would drive over the delivery.

00:26:19.100 That's all.

00:26:19.600 Oh, right.

00:26:20.020 So it is, in a way, dude.

00:26:21.400 It still feels the same as, like, our roots.

00:26:23.840 You know, obviously we're not driving t-shirts to people anymore, but Scott and I are still

00:26:26.980 very much involved, very hands-on.

00:26:29.760 And I think we fucking care, dude.

00:26:31.580 Like, this is our baby and we love it and it's loved us back and we want to take care of

00:26:35.880 it and distancing ourselves from it because we've gained money and egos is not really something

00:26:42.000 that we're interested in doing.

00:26:43.140 No.

00:26:43.380 And we're very aware of that, too, you know?

00:26:45.540 Yeah, this shit has saved our lives, bro.

00:26:47.640 I don't know any other force or consequence that might have been powerful enough to make

00:26:55.620 us even consider to go get help and get clean.

00:26:59.220 You know what I'm saying?

00:26:59.820 Because we had something to live for.

00:27:01.680 We had something to lose.

00:27:03.100 Yeah.

00:27:03.180 Not just the business, not just the label, but each other.

00:27:06.420 Yeah.

00:27:06.800 It's bigger than us, too.

00:27:07.860 I mean, we employ people.

00:27:09.180 It's way bigger than me, him, and it's bigger than any of us, bro.

00:27:13.360 I think that's something, like he just said, that we tell ourselves constantly to just keep

00:27:18.460 ourselves down to earth and, you know, because it's easy, dude, to get to be successful and

00:27:22.520 get caught up in yourself.

00:27:23.780 It's easy because, if anything, you have to fight that shit off.

00:27:27.320 You know what I mean?

00:27:27.600 I'm sure you know, bro.

00:27:28.700 Yeah.

00:27:29.120 Well, yeah, it's a battle I've dealt with and some days I win, some days I lose.

00:27:34.400 For sure.

00:27:34.840 Over time, it's gotten better.

00:27:36.600 Yeah.

00:27:36.760 And especially if you're hands-on, used to doing things and that becomes a part of it because

00:27:40.020 you're, you know, you want everything to be perfect, learning to let other people help

00:27:43.980 you, and then your ego can build without you even noticing it.

00:27:47.900 Oh, yeah.

00:27:48.300 You think like, oh, I'm just proud of myself, but that 95% of that cup could be ego.

00:27:53.200 So it's interesting, man.

00:27:55.140 It is.

00:27:55.620 It is.

00:27:56.140 I think it's funny you say that, though, Scott, like about something saving you.

00:28:00.440 Yeah, there's a lot of times where if I didn't have to, I'm like, there's some temptation

00:28:04.680 that'll happen the night before, and I'm like, I got a podcast tomorrow, or I have a show

00:28:08.360 to do, or I have some responsibility, I got to get an edit for my producers, or one of

00:28:12.400 them is waiting on an email from me or something, or I'm waiting from them, and it keeps me going.

00:28:17.340 Yeah, bro, I would have been, you know, for a long time, I would argue that drugs kept

00:28:23.860 me alive, because I just, I didn't know how to live in this world, I didn't want to live

00:28:28.860 in this world at all, but at the same time, didn't quite have the balls to take myself

00:28:35.360 out.

00:28:36.140 Oh, yeah.

00:28:36.640 It's a scary thing.

00:28:37.660 So I'd say that drugs kept me alive for a long time.

00:28:41.400 I mean, you know.

00:28:43.480 What made you have so much pain, you think?

00:28:45.040 Like, what was the tough part for you, you think?

00:28:47.120 Well, I think it was a mixture, dude.

00:28:48.800 I think it was, like I said, just being born, like, I just feeling out of place, like, always,

00:28:55.260 like, something wasn't right.

00:28:57.140 Which is, like, a common theme with addicts.

00:28:58.600 Yeah.

00:28:59.580 Yeah, yeah.

00:29:00.200 Like, I'm a large in the worlds of fucking media, but some of the worlds of 7XL.

00:29:03.640 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, bro.

00:29:05.880 I'm wandering around in my own shirt.

00:29:07.860 I'm trying to find a neck hole, bro.

00:29:09.420 So I think it's a, and they've done a lot of, I mean, they've done a lot of work on

00:29:13.140 this, and they know it's like genetics.

00:29:14.940 I won't get into all that, but, you know.

00:29:16.820 Yeah.

00:29:17.020 That's part of that, and I think also, you know, the way I grew up, and, you know, when

00:29:21.840 I say this, dude, I'm not, I love everyone in my family.

00:29:26.180 I go, I'll go above and beyond for any one of them, but, you know, everybody was doing

00:29:31.320 the best they could.

00:29:32.520 Yeah.

00:29:32.720 With what they knew how to do, but it was still tough.

00:29:36.340 You know, it was, it was some tough shit to grow up in, you know, so that didn't help.

00:29:41.280 But I'll tell you the biggest thing, and I'll shut up.

00:29:43.260 That way I don't get too overwinded with this, because I have a tendency to do that.

00:29:47.020 But I always thought, like, this thing, like, okay, the drugs are not working anymore.

00:29:53.600 They're not doing it for me.

00:29:56.040 But this thing, this thing's going to do it for me.

00:29:58.700 Once we get to that place, whatever that place is in my head, whenever I get that thing,

00:30:03.980 that's going to do it for me.

00:30:06.000 And then I got really suicidal when we got there, whatever there, wherever there is.

00:30:13.440 And nothing changed.

00:30:14.280 And nothing changed.

00:30:16.740 I felt, now I feel worse, because if this don't work, what's going to do it?

00:30:22.720 And that's, you know, that's when I really started to spiral.

00:30:26.280 And for me, and I'll end it with this, the answer for me has been getting involved in

00:30:32.840 the 12-step programs, and it's been more of a spiritual answer, rather than the material,

00:30:39.400 you know?

00:30:39.980 Yeah, man.

00:30:40.920 I remember, I was in my garage, it was like two years, probably two years ago, man.

00:30:44.540 I was talking to my brother on the phone.

00:30:46.720 I was like, nothing will save me.

00:30:50.820 It was like, I got people that'll like me.

00:30:52.300 I thought that's what was my problem.

00:30:54.040 Same.

00:30:54.560 If enough people like me, I'll like me.

00:30:56.480 Yes.

00:30:56.720 Yeah, yeah.

00:30:57.500 Yeah.

00:30:57.780 And it was like, fuck, man.

00:30:59.400 And one day, I was just like-

00:31:00.400 It makes me emotional.

00:31:00.840 It's ass backwards, because you have to like yourself first, and then the other stuff

00:31:05.360 comes.

00:31:05.480 But it's crazy to think, man, you know, that that's kind of the way that it could kind of

00:31:09.560 process.

00:31:10.780 And yeah, but I see you in the rooms, man.

00:31:13.480 It gives me a lot of hope every time I see you.

00:31:15.220 Same with you, bro.

00:31:16.500 Dude, I was in-

00:31:17.220 If you want to keep going, you know?

00:31:17.840 I was in-

00:31:18.240 And the way you run your rooms, bro, and not to over-talk you, but it's like-

00:31:21.260 No, you're good.

00:31:21.500 You're good.

00:31:21.680 You have a lot of respect of a lot of people in there, and it's cool, man.

00:31:26.520 I've been blessed, bro.

00:31:27.380 And for you, bro, I was-

00:31:31.020 Eat it, mate.

00:31:31.700 Yeah.

00:31:32.500 They taste kind of shitty.

00:31:34.680 You want a fresh one?

00:31:36.420 All right.

00:31:37.020 Come on, brother.

00:31:37.920 Let me at least do you that service.

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00:33:00.800 You know, I love going to concerts and events.

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00:34:13.060 No, but Theo, I was three months sober, bro.

00:34:18.040 Just got to where I was living on my own in California where I went and got sober, and

00:34:24.180 I came across your video on YouTube.

00:34:26.220 That was my introduction to you, and it was why I got sober.

00:34:30.060 It was that video.

00:34:31.240 And then from there, I watched that video, and you inspired me, bro, and you gave me hope.

00:34:37.180 And then that's when I did a deep dive on you and started watching all your greatest hits

00:34:41.760 and highlights and shit, laughing my ass off.

00:34:44.100 That's funny, bro.

00:34:44.680 That's how I came to know you.

00:34:45.940 But yeah, before we even knew each other, bro, you gave me a little bump when I needed

00:34:50.100 it, too, with that video.

00:34:51.380 Dang, man.

00:34:52.780 Thanks, bro.

00:34:53.360 Yeah, it's crazy kind of, I think, the connection that people get going through if they're using

00:34:58.340 or if they're recovering.

00:35:00.100 It's like on both sides of that, it seems like there's probably a lot of connection.

00:35:04.160 You guys could probably speak to that, huh?

00:35:05.920 You think?

00:35:06.260 What you mean?

00:35:07.200 Like, even on the using side, there's like a level of connection that that keeps people.

00:35:11.440 Oh, yeah, yeah.

00:35:12.560 I mean, that'll keep you in the act of addiction by, you know, you kind of almost, when I was

00:35:18.780 buying pills and shit and snorting Roxy's, I never wanted to do them alone.

00:35:22.500 And so I would share with everybody, and I was making money, so I could buy a bunch, and

00:35:26.260 I would share with people that were my friends that didn't make as much money, and they were

00:35:30.040 happy to get free pills, and I could, like, be in my dark shit, but not alone.

00:35:35.440 And I think a lot of addicts are chasing loneliness.

00:35:38.360 They're chasing, they're having trouble with self-acceptance.

00:35:42.220 And I think finding your little group of, like, similar drugs that you want to do together

00:35:46.380 definitely makes you feel like you're safe and at home.

00:35:48.680 Yeah.

00:35:48.780 And then the exact opposite happens when you get off of them, too.

00:35:51.300 You find your people that want to stay away from that shit, and it kind of strengthens

00:35:55.000 your little community that you're in, you know?

00:35:58.060 Yeah.

00:35:58.660 What were some of the, like, what have been some of the highlights?

00:36:01.160 I mean, because you guys have a success that I think, like, a lot of people don't really

00:36:06.120 know it in a lot of ways.

00:36:07.940 A lot of people do, but y'all aren't a mainstream thing.

00:36:10.700 Yeah.

00:36:11.260 Like, is that offensive to say to you?

00:36:12.780 It doesn't feel offensive, right?

00:36:13.820 If anything, I kind of take offense to the opposite, that people do consider us mainstream,

00:36:17.580 and I don't think we are.

00:36:19.000 We are in maybe how popular we are or how many people listen to us, but, you know, you're

00:36:23.340 not going to see us.

00:36:23.720 People like the gatekeep.

00:36:24.780 You know what I'm saying?

00:36:25.380 Yeah.

00:36:25.600 Especially our fan base.

00:36:26.680 They love the gatekeep.

00:36:27.900 What does that mean when people say gatekeep?

00:36:29.240 They feel like it's their thing.

00:36:30.540 Oh, bad.

00:36:30.860 You have to deserve to be our fan.

00:36:32.660 Yeah.

00:36:33.060 It feels like that, though.

00:36:34.060 You know, every fan that we meet, whether it's like we're just out and about and we run into

00:36:38.380 somebody that recognizes us, ask him, and I bet you he'll back me up.

00:36:41.560 Like, 10 times out of 10, they tell me that they've listened to us since 2015.

00:36:46.160 Yeah.

00:36:46.660 Which, or they'll say, I've been listening to you guys since y'all started.

00:36:49.680 I've been a fan since 2012.

00:36:51.020 Or since I was in seventh grade, and now they're at 20-something.

00:36:53.560 Yeah, exactly.

00:36:54.420 But the 2015 thing is funny.

00:36:55.860 Some of them are still in seventh grade, too, bro.

00:36:58.220 Depending on what Paris they from, bro.

00:37:00.240 No disrespect, dude.

00:37:02.060 Hey, bro.

00:37:02.820 I did fifth twice, homie.

00:37:04.340 Yeah.

00:37:04.940 We've been in there, bro.

00:37:06.560 We've all done a little sentence, man.

00:37:08.620 Yeah, it is.

00:37:12.180 It's their world.

00:37:13.100 That's why even, like, with talking with you guys, it feels, since I wasn't there from the

00:37:16.240 beginning, you don't feel a little bit of, you're like, oh, this is their thing.

00:37:20.000 Even when I meet y'all's fans, it feels like that.

00:37:21.720 Yeah.

00:37:22.040 It feels like there are people that have feelings, and they've been through something.

00:37:26.520 That's what it kind of feels like.

00:37:28.620 Y'all's shows are real interesting, man, because it's such a kickoff, and then it's almost like

00:37:34.960 running downfield the whole show, you know?

00:37:38.140 It just feels like a...

00:37:39.620 That's a good way to...

00:37:40.520 It's intense, man.

00:37:41.620 And the crowd gets going.

00:37:42.780 I mean, there's a lot going on.

00:37:43.840 You got the people up by the front, just like, almost like it's like a big lung up there.

00:37:48.600 They're just kind of, like, vibrate.

00:37:50.120 He taught me this early on, man.

00:37:52.040 Like, we were doing a show.

00:37:54.000 We were about to do a show in New York, and only three people were showing up.

00:37:57.780 And me and some other rappers were like, fuck this.

00:38:01.060 We ain't doing this.

00:38:02.260 And he taught me a lesson early.

00:38:04.660 He's like, bro, it doesn't matter if one person shows up or thousands.

00:38:08.020 Like, you give that person a show.

00:38:10.240 And ever since then, I've ran with that, you know?

00:38:12.840 And it's like, anytime I'm out there...

00:38:14.240 You did take to that super well.

00:38:15.860 If these people are paying to come watch me perform, then the last thing I want to do

00:38:21.200 is just sit there, you know?

00:38:23.480 Writing your own self, yeah.

00:38:25.040 Yeah, and just, like, be still.

00:38:26.440 I don't know if that makes sense, but I want to go out there and give them energy.

00:38:29.760 Like, give them everything I got.

00:38:31.480 And like I said, dude, worst case scenario, one person showed up.

00:38:33.860 It's a fucking practice.

00:38:35.320 Like, you keep the...

00:38:37.420 You don't get rusty.

00:38:38.500 You keep it going.

00:38:39.280 Because, you know, we'll tour once a year, really.

00:38:42.220 Two, three months at the end of the year.

00:38:44.220 And the first few shows we do, it's...

00:38:46.260 We kind of, like, forget what to say.

00:38:49.320 Or we'll forget certain lyrics.

00:38:50.420 We're like, fuck, we've done this for 10 years.

00:38:51.780 How are we forgetting this shit?

00:38:53.060 You have to get back in the groove.

00:38:53.960 Yeah, you got to get back in the groove, man.

00:38:55.720 Yeah.

00:38:56.440 So you guys, now there's a new album coming out.

00:38:59.320 What is it like to, like, evolve?

00:39:01.720 Like, is it scary to evolve?

00:39:04.060 I think about it even, like, in comedy and stuff.

00:39:06.140 I'm like, what the heck?

00:39:07.280 Like, you know, some of your, like, people that listen to you,

00:39:11.940 they listen to you at a certain age, but they're getting older, too.

00:39:15.880 Some of them are all different ages.

00:39:17.480 So how do you try and apply to everybody?

00:39:20.880 I'm really glad you asked this.

00:39:22.300 That's a great question.

00:39:22.920 And how do you try to also apply to yourself at the same time?

00:39:26.300 Um, so we might have two different, I think it'll be, well, at first, I think at first

00:39:32.240 we were scared to kind of change the sound up because the formula was working and we

00:39:36.340 were worried about, like, introducing new stuff because what if they don't like it and

00:39:39.960 this and that.

00:39:40.500 And the more successful you get is, like, the scarier it gets because you think one wrong

00:39:44.720 fucking move and it all crumbles, which isn't true.

00:39:47.220 But we started experimenting, doing some, like, singing stuff or whatever, and people

00:39:52.180 seemed to fuck with it.

00:39:53.420 And then we got to a point to where we don't, we didn't really care if they didn't like it

00:39:56.780 or not.

00:39:57.480 Scott and I have been making this music for so long now that if we want to try something

00:40:00.720 experimental or new, I think we deserve to at this point.

00:40:04.020 Um, so it can be a scary thing, but I think, you know, don't fear it and just, just do it

00:40:09.620 and see what happens.

00:40:10.480 Yeah.

00:40:10.500 I think I, I agree a hundred percent on everything you said from on a more, I don't know if you

00:40:16.600 went through this too, but for me on a more personal level, when I got sober, it was like

00:40:22.100 I had a, like, I was so scared because I thought my drug use fueled all my creativity.

00:40:28.360 Yeah.

00:40:28.520 That was definitely a thought for sure.

00:40:29.700 Yeah.

00:40:30.120 And so, like, for me, I, once I finally did start getting back into it, it was literally

00:40:36.120 like learning how to walk all over again.

00:40:39.400 It is.

00:40:39.880 Really.

00:40:40.200 And the sound did kind of change as a result of that beat wise, um, production wise.

00:40:47.180 More like less scary and sad sounding.

00:40:51.220 Yes.

00:40:51.520 So I think the evolution of our music has matched exactly.

00:40:56.900 The evolution of us.

00:40:57.840 Of us.

00:40:58.620 Yeah.

00:40:58.840 That's a great, that's a great point.

00:41:00.700 That, that, that's how I look at it.

00:41:02.800 What was it like?

00:41:03.760 Like if you're like on pills and you're deep out on pills, I never really got that out on,

00:41:08.240 you know, if you're like, um, huffing trank or whatever, I don't even know what some of

00:41:12.660 the names I'll call, you know, yeah.

00:41:15.200 Fucking swamp pebbles or whatever you're buying out of here.

00:41:17.760 Just looking for anything now.

00:41:19.020 Looking for a neck hole.

00:41:20.320 Oh, bro.

00:41:20.740 They'll fucking have a tilapia flavored perk out here, bro.

00:41:24.320 In New Orleans.

00:41:25.180 They don't give a shit, bro.

00:41:26.380 You'll have a fucking pecan crusted Zan bar out here, bro.

00:41:30.220 You're like, what the fuck?

00:41:31.780 Everybody wants to be a chef in this motherfucker, bro.

00:41:34.740 That's crazy, dude.

00:41:35.620 Yeah.

00:41:36.100 Pauline Adderall's.

00:41:37.280 Yeah.

00:41:37.480 Oh, you'll have a bag of char-grilled somas over here, bro.

00:41:40.660 You're like, damn, this place is crazy, dude.

00:41:43.380 That's pretty funny, bro.

00:41:44.400 But, um, what was it like making music when you're under that influence?

00:41:48.360 Is it, is it even possible to make music when you're like, like that kind of pill high?

00:41:53.500 I don't know.

00:41:54.180 So I'm just curious, like, or is it just possible to just like listen back or is it, do you feel

00:42:00.220 any creative, was there any creativity from the actual high of that?

00:42:04.260 I don't know if we work differently because I know sometimes you would wait until after

00:42:09.320 we were done, but this was early on to smoke.

00:42:12.380 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:42:12.580 Weed, it's, uh, I still smoke weed.

00:42:15.400 I couldn't go without it.

00:42:16.660 Now, Ruby couldn't either.

00:42:19.020 You know what I'm saying?

00:42:19.660 So we were constantly on it all day.

00:42:21.600 So it's kind of like just feeling normal.

00:42:24.060 Um, yeah, I would, I would agree with that.

00:42:26.220 Yeah.

00:42:26.520 It was kind of, doze off and shit.

00:42:28.300 I mean, that's like, look, how do you find it?

00:42:30.140 So do we both awake at the same time to make a try?

00:42:33.400 When you take a Percocet first thing in the morning or whatever, your Oxy, whatever it

00:42:37.240 is, it's going to give you a boost.

00:42:39.580 Like I'll come out of that bathroom snorting something and I'm like, what's up motherfuckers?

00:42:43.800 Like I'm like on one.

00:42:45.420 And then the, as you keep dosing at the end of the day, it's kind of like when you've, you

00:42:50.860 know, you've done all day it and that's when you start to kind of nod off.

00:42:54.580 It's like your body's like, okay, I'm dropping out.

00:42:57.120 For me, I was mixing so much stuff.

00:42:58.940 So much.

00:42:59.220 This kid was all over the fucking place.

00:43:00.680 And down, but you can hear it in the music now.

00:43:02.580 Sometimes we go back for, for laughs and we'll listen to some of the shit I made when

00:43:07.160 I was like in psychosis.

00:43:08.440 What did you say is the most fucked up you've ever were for an album?

00:43:11.980 Uh, I want to die in New Orleans.

00:43:13.820 I think mine is.

00:43:14.660 I will.

00:43:15.340 Yeah.

00:43:16.740 I think mine is.

00:43:18.220 I hate that album.

00:43:19.500 Stop Staring is mine.

00:43:20.520 Really?

00:43:20.960 Yeah.

00:43:21.280 I hate that album.

00:43:23.120 You did, you did phenomenal on it, but I was so far gone, dude.

00:43:26.380 I was, I was literally in psychosis from doing so much speed and, and, and downers, bro.

00:43:33.040 Um, I thought Southwest Airlines was trying to kill me.

00:43:36.060 I thought.

00:43:36.320 You told me that story once, bro.

00:43:37.640 Yeah, I thought Kyle took a life insurance policy out on me for 70 grand.

00:43:40.980 This motherfucker.

00:43:41.960 Bro, that's the most New Orleans shit ever.

00:43:44.020 Bro.

00:43:44.180 Somebody takes a life insurance policy out for $700, bro.

00:43:47.580 Just for want to make it their truck payment.

00:43:49.560 That's the fucking most New Orleans shit, bro.

00:43:52.360 I remember that.

00:43:53.060 We were in, we were in New Zealand when he told me that he thought that they were putting

00:43:55.700 a hit out on us.

00:43:56.620 Yeah.

00:43:57.280 He thought like, what do you say when he sits you down?

00:43:59.660 Oh, bro.

00:43:59.940 I put them through hell, bro.

00:44:01.020 At one point I was starting to get really impatient with it because like, I was tired of explaining,

00:44:06.160 I was tired of explaining that like this insane theory wasn't actually happening.

00:44:12.100 I would one time.

00:44:13.220 I thought he had my phone.

00:44:14.080 This was one time where he quit suicide boys on Twitter.

00:44:16.540 I don't know if you remember that.

00:44:17.560 Oh, I remember.

00:44:18.320 And he, I remember where I was at.

00:44:19.640 At the time he had just bought a condo in Bradenton, Florida, outside of Sarasota.

00:44:23.960 And I can't get in touch with him.

00:44:25.420 Kyle can't get in touch with him.

00:44:26.740 And we decide, let's, let's go out there.

00:44:29.600 Let's just press him.

00:44:30.500 Let's be in person.

00:44:31.140 So long story short, we fly down there, rent a car, drive to his apartment.

00:44:35.340 And he doesn't expect us.

00:44:36.580 He doesn't know we're coming.

00:44:37.920 We go upstairs and I knock on the door and he's like, one second, I think to myself,

00:44:42.760 like, man, I just flew out here.

00:44:44.200 Fuck that.

00:44:44.600 I'm not waiting a second.

00:44:45.280 I was like, bro, I'm here.

00:44:46.660 What's up?

00:44:47.060 Like, what's the problem?

00:44:48.320 And he was like, uh, give me a second.

00:44:49.940 He had to go to the bathroom, do his little thing, catch my drift.

00:44:53.560 And then we came outside.

00:44:54.460 He was ready to talk.

00:44:55.300 And this long story to say, I was trying to like, see, I was like, is he fucking with

00:45:00.440 me?

00:45:00.680 Is he lying to me?

00:45:02.120 Is he thinking I'm, does he think I'm stupid or does he actually believe this shit?

00:45:05.780 And is he, is he fucking crazy?

00:45:07.480 Yeah.

00:45:07.880 So I had to sit him down and I was like, bro, this Southwest thing.

00:45:11.120 Do you think that the board, like, like the people on the board of Southwest sit in a

00:45:16.820 boardroom, Southwest Airlines, Southwest Airlines.

00:45:19.200 And they, they discuss how we're going to assassinate scrim from suicide boys.

00:45:23.700 And he looked at me dead in the eyes, the most serious look on his face.

00:45:27.380 And he goes, yes.

00:45:28.800 And I lost my mind, bro.

00:45:30.700 I took my phone and I threw it on the, I was trying to hit the grass, but I hit the sidewalk.

00:45:35.500 The fucker sparked.

00:45:37.560 And, uh, that pissed you off even more.

00:45:40.080 Yeah.

00:45:40.300 Yeah.

00:45:40.620 I thought they were trying to kill me because my brother had bootlegged one of our tracks

00:45:45.040 and, and cause he was bad off on dope and sold it to this person for like 800 bucks,

00:45:51.380 but actually didn't give him the song and just scammed them.

00:45:54.180 And I thought the person he scammed was the son of somebody on the board of Southwest.

00:45:59.180 And they were just going to take me out.

00:46:00.840 To speak on the other, to speak on the other side of things, I'm thinking what is coming

00:46:05.980 out of his mouth?

00:46:06.620 Is it real or not?

00:46:07.780 Come to find out the story of his brother stealing a song and selling it is true.

00:46:11.200 So it's like, and I'm sitting there and I feel bad because I'm like been calling him

00:46:14.900 a liar in my head and all this shit.

00:46:16.260 And then I find out it's true.

00:46:18.080 So then I'm like, all right, so is all of this true?

00:46:20.740 I still refuse to believe that the board of Southwest is meeting to discuss his assassination.

00:46:25.320 But I had my, my brother and my family believe that I had fucking time, bro.

00:46:30.400 I was very convincing.

00:46:31.880 Uh, I had fans tweeting at Southwest airlines on Twitter.

00:46:36.280 I did.

00:46:37.200 Yeah, it was, it was, that's crazy.

00:46:40.080 But that was toward the end.

00:46:41.260 That was, that was like when I was really, uh, spiraling.

00:46:45.380 Fuck dude.

00:46:47.000 It's interesting though, that you guys were at least had a close enough connection.

00:46:50.520 Cause a lot of bands fall apart from that kind of stuff.

00:46:52.780 A lot of our groups, a lot of teams fall apart.

00:46:55.500 Everything falls apart.

00:46:56.500 We're family.

00:46:56.780 I'm glad.

00:46:57.220 I don't know you know that, but we're family.

00:46:58.680 Right.

00:46:58.820 But for you to go there and want to actually just to think, let me see what's really going

00:47:02.800 on with him.

00:47:03.260 We've never even hit each other.

00:47:04.560 Like we've gotten in each other's faces ready to fucking beat the shit out of each other.

00:47:08.420 And we've both been able to like, you're my cousin and I don't want to do that.

00:47:11.580 I don't want to hit you.

00:47:12.200 Yeah.

00:47:12.400 I fucking hate you right now, but I'm not going to touch you.

00:47:14.600 Like, and it's gone both ways.

00:47:16.340 And I say that the family thing, which obviously doesn't apply to everybody, but we've been able

00:47:21.400 to look at the fact that we're cousins and the fact that we provide for our families,

00:47:24.360 which is a shared family as a reason to never give up on each other.

00:47:28.400 Yeah.

00:47:28.720 If this was just one of my friends, I don't think it would have been the same.

00:47:32.180 No, no, no, no.

00:47:33.680 That's good that you brought that up because a lot of, a lot of groups just don't make

00:47:38.280 it in general and doing business with family is usually not a smart way to go.

00:47:43.340 But for us, I mean, it's the only time it worked out.

00:47:45.960 Yeah.

00:47:46.120 I think it's just a unique situation, bro.

00:47:48.020 We got it.

00:47:48.480 We both got the same granny to answer to and she ain't nothing nice.

00:47:52.740 You know what I'm saying?

00:47:53.560 Like she's done.

00:47:54.020 That's a scary woman.

00:47:55.200 She done FaceTime me before.

00:47:55.880 Scary woman.

00:47:56.540 She done FaceTime me before being like, you making music without your cousin, you know,

00:48:01.220 like pressing me.

00:48:03.020 And I was like, and I'd have to call her and be like, granny, I got it.

00:48:05.640 Yeah.

00:48:06.080 She's going to think that I'm like fucking venting to you.

00:48:08.600 Does she stay up late or no?

00:48:10.480 I don't think so.

00:48:11.300 Granny?

00:48:11.620 She's almost 80 now.

00:48:12.740 She was a bus driver for the parish, Jefferson Parish, pretty much her whole life.

00:48:18.140 Yeah, bro.

00:48:18.820 Drove me to school from kindergarten to high school.

00:48:21.640 Dang, brother.

00:48:23.400 Real working woman, bro.

00:48:24.620 And Wagaman.

00:48:25.760 She would manhandle like grown, like seniors in high school.

00:48:28.840 Oh, bro.

00:48:29.140 Yeah.

00:48:29.560 I watched her.

00:48:30.900 I'm telling you, you don't want to fuck with that lady.

00:48:32.540 She's from Wagaman, bro.

00:48:33.860 Oh, come on.

00:48:34.500 The first seat, they'll have a Crock-Pot going in that bitch, bro.

00:48:37.980 Yeah, bro.

00:48:39.620 They got lunch going in.

00:48:41.320 I made your pot of gumbo.

00:48:43.140 Yeah.

00:48:44.200 That's back when the bus, sometimes I'm going to just pick up a strange on that.

00:48:47.080 Yeah, bro.

00:48:48.160 You'd have two raccoons in the fourth row, bro.

00:48:50.480 Yeah.

00:48:50.860 Fucking nutrio.

00:48:51.980 Anything in that bitch, bro.

00:48:54.260 Bro.

00:48:54.880 Dude, the bus, people used to cut, like, it used to be like the green seat cover.

00:49:00.220 Sometimes they were green and sometimes they were black.

00:49:02.040 People would cut a little, like, slice in there.

00:49:04.100 People put dope on.

00:49:05.040 The bus, they didn't even realize the bus the whole time was just driving dope around

00:49:09.100 the fucking city.

00:49:10.000 Damn.

00:49:10.600 I never thought of that.

00:49:11.260 Yeah, for real.

00:49:12.080 People would keep everything.

00:49:13.220 They would slice in the back.

00:49:14.640 The inside of the seat was hollow.

00:49:16.300 People would keep all kind of shit.

00:49:17.540 I was too busy.

00:49:18.120 Too crafty motherfuckers, bro.

00:49:18.920 I was too busy fingering girls in the back of the bus.

00:49:21.360 Hey, bro.

00:49:22.280 Oh, you was in the 11th row.

00:49:23.800 Yeah.

00:49:24.340 Yeah, bro.

00:49:24.880 That was really, that was a red light district of the bus.

00:49:27.240 Randy, put it on Q93.

00:49:28.880 Yeah, yeah.

00:49:29.420 Q93.

00:49:31.200 Wild Wayne.

00:49:31.940 Yeah, dude.

00:49:32.560 Remember Wild Wayne, bro?

00:49:34.400 Mm-hmm.

00:49:34.780 What were some of the things they would say on there?

00:49:37.660 Q93, boys.

00:49:40.600 What's up?

00:49:40.820 I remember when the Saints were going to the Super Bowl, Q93 hosted, like, some show at

00:49:45.600 the Howlin' Wolf, and they had, like, every, that year, because the Saints were doing so

00:49:49.180 well, everybody came out with a Saints song.

00:49:51.020 You remember that shit?

00:49:52.300 You remember that shit?

00:49:52.960 Yeah.

00:49:53.120 Oh, yeah.

00:49:53.720 Wild Wayne hosted this show.

00:49:55.340 It was, like, all these Saints rappers out there.

00:49:57.160 Yeah, yeah.

00:49:58.060 I'm trying to think.

00:49:58.660 Look up Wild Wayne, Q93.

00:50:01.880 See if we can play even their intro.

00:50:04.540 I remember DJ Rowe would come on.

00:50:06.340 Yep.

00:50:06.980 Either 4 or 5 o'clock every day.

00:50:09.620 DJ Rowe in the mix.

00:50:14.620 Ooh.

00:50:16.260 Yeah.

00:50:18.300 I pitched the idea to wind the court that they need to advertise on Q93.

00:50:22.800 And they did it.

00:50:23.680 They did it?

00:50:24.120 They did it.

00:50:24.620 Wild Wayne, all them came in.

00:50:26.340 Nuh-uh.

00:50:26.880 Yeah.

00:50:27.220 Yeah, we were, we was bumping, bro.

00:50:30.440 That's touching.

00:50:30.980 Oh, damn, bro.

00:50:31.260 This is 2002, bro.

00:50:32.520 It's crazy.

00:50:33.320 We were selling the shit out of some furniture after that.

00:50:36.660 Did y'all, um, was there some moments where you guys got to connect with some local artists

00:50:41.780 when y'all started coming up?

00:50:42.860 Or how did that kind of go?

00:50:43.720 Man, we've gotten, I'm going to say it.

00:50:45.820 Go ahead, bro.

00:50:46.200 This city fucking hates us, bro.

00:50:47.280 Yeah.

00:50:47.500 They do.

00:50:48.060 We don't get no love.

00:50:48.760 We don't get any love from the city.

00:50:50.120 Not from people in the city.

00:50:51.720 Artists, nothing.

00:50:52.980 It's interesting.

00:50:53.900 We're not even doing a show this year in New Orleans because we don't feel love and we're

00:50:57.080 kind of a little annoyed.

00:50:58.620 Yeah.

00:50:58.760 We got out of every arena we went to last year.

00:51:02.260 New Orleans absolutely treated us the worst.

00:51:04.480 Like garbage, dude.

00:51:05.100 Like we were, like they were doing us a favor.

00:51:07.500 Yeah.

00:51:07.680 I was actually like mind blown by it, but, um, and what is it do you think do you do?

00:51:12.020 Yeah.

00:51:12.160 What do you think some of that is?

00:51:13.620 You guys, it's a, you guys are something so different.

00:51:16.960 Right.

00:51:17.800 Right.

00:51:17.980 I don't know if that has something to do with it.

00:51:19.400 I think people get turned off by the name, uh, suicide boys.

00:51:23.100 And I know that like, that's fact doesn't fuck with us because of that.

00:51:27.880 But what a lot of people don't understand is, is it's not, you know, it might've started

00:51:32.060 off as like a way to say stupid shit, but it's definitely become a thing that people relate

00:51:37.480 to, and it's, it's become an important part of some kids lives.

00:51:40.700 And, you know, Scott and I want people to do well, you know, we're not like trying to

00:51:44.600 like tear people down.

00:51:45.700 So it's funny how people get the wrong idea.

00:51:47.840 I'm glad you said that.

00:51:48.700 Cause we never intended, we never had like this grand idea or intention for it to turn

00:51:54.440 into this like community and turn into what it, or like have kids being like, yo, you

00:51:58.740 saved my life or like the emails that, that Kyle and them get, um, fan letters.

00:52:05.060 Yeah.

00:52:05.340 All sorts of shit.

00:52:06.040 So I, I think if, if people were to dig past the surface, you know, they would, they would

00:52:11.240 see, but I think that also goes into like, this is bigger than us, dude.

00:52:15.160 Like it's real interesting, man.

00:52:17.360 I get more requests for you guys than anybody ever.

00:52:20.300 Really?

00:52:20.680 When, Oh dude, every, if it, uh, I feel like kind of the same, but everybody's been like,

00:52:25.460 yo, y'all got to go on to you.

00:52:26.740 Money sign to be when they send it.

00:52:29.240 At first I thought it was people just trying to get me to send them cash.

00:52:32.240 I didn't know, uh, sending money to OB.

00:52:35.300 Yeah.

00:52:35.480 The first thousand I got, I'm like, who the fuck is this guy?

00:52:38.580 Dude, they must really, they running a GoFundMe.

00:52:41.820 Yeah.

00:52:42.320 Be hurting.

00:52:43.060 But then, uh, but then I was like, Oh damn, everybody wants to see these guys.

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00:55:41.960 Did you guys, did y'all watch the Poirier fight?

00:55:44.620 You guys watch UFC?

00:55:46.080 Yeah, I did this weekend.

00:55:47.400 Did you catch it?

00:55:48.100 I didn't see it.

00:55:48.820 I caught it.

00:55:49.560 I was struggling to stay up, bro.

00:55:50.840 I go to bed.

00:55:51.360 I'm like a grandpa now ever since I got sober, but.

00:55:54.140 Only it was late as hell.

00:55:55.260 We were there.

00:55:55.640 We didn't go on stage or whatever till 12.

00:55:57.440 I watched it, man.

00:55:58.360 Yeah, I was rooting for him, bro.

00:56:00.240 And Lafayette boy?

00:56:01.700 Yeah.

00:56:01.920 Yeah, I think he did great, bro.

00:56:03.460 Me too.

00:56:03.800 He did great.

00:56:04.560 Who won?

00:56:04.580 I don't even know.

00:56:06.160 He lost.

00:56:06.680 Islam won?

00:56:07.920 Yeah, Islam won.

00:56:08.980 What was in it?

00:56:09.980 By a chokehold?

00:56:11.220 Yeah, but it was so close.

00:56:12.420 It was in the fourth round.

00:56:13.380 But if this was a crawfish eating competition, you know who would have won?

00:56:15.620 Yeah, all day.

00:56:16.980 Look, he's almost shaped like a crawfish right there.

00:56:18.740 He is.

00:56:19.060 Dustin didn't win, but I really didn't feel like he lost.

00:56:24.400 I mean, this dude, everybody thought this dude was going to roll.

00:56:27.800 Yeah.

00:56:28.400 I don't want to say that.

00:56:29.220 Safe to say, Nick, huh?

00:56:30.600 People thought that Islam was going to beat him because he beats everybody.

00:56:33.700 Yeah.

00:56:34.080 And Dustin took that dude.

00:56:35.600 So he put up a good fight, bro.

00:56:36.920 Yeah.

00:56:37.360 Dustin is a dog, bro.

00:56:39.040 He fought.

00:56:39.320 You got to be, bro.

00:56:40.060 You got to be.

00:56:41.260 And you could tell, man, it's just interesting the different ways a lot of people use to express

00:56:46.680 themselves, you know, like if it's music or comedy or art.

00:56:51.340 Well, I've gotten in.

00:56:52.300 We've both gotten into training.

00:56:54.600 Boxing.

00:56:55.140 Boxing.

00:56:55.580 Yeah.

00:56:55.960 Yeah.

00:56:56.200 We've been doing that for the past couple of years.

00:56:58.060 And, bro, that in itself is an art and a science and something to be respected.

00:57:02.580 So now when I watch this, I have a whole different.

00:57:05.440 I grew up watching it with my papa anyway.

00:57:07.200 He was a boxer.

00:57:08.240 But, like, I watch these guys, bro, and the amount of respect I have for them just in the

00:57:14.440 little training that we do, you know what I'm saying?

00:57:16.220 And I'm like, fuck.

00:57:17.460 It seems like.

00:57:18.120 These guys are built different.

00:57:19.060 Anything you watch, skateboarding, boxing, whatever it is, it seems easy.

00:57:22.140 And then once you actually get in it, you realize, oh, this is not easy.

00:57:25.300 You throw four punches in your wind and you're like, how the fuck these dudes do this for

00:57:28.540 nine rounds?

00:57:29.760 Oh, yeah.

00:57:31.080 This is him at the end, I think.

00:57:32.380 We can play this.

00:57:34.140 And I'm not 100%, but if this is my last fight, I wanted to dedicate this journey to

00:57:39.620 the people who may be the man I am.

00:57:41.640 And that's the women in my life.

00:57:43.380 To my grandmother.

00:57:44.540 Hell, yeah.

00:57:44.800 I miss you every day.

00:57:46.700 And I know I'm still protected by your prayers.

00:57:50.440 Hell, yeah.

00:57:51.300 To my mother, we've had a crazy life.

00:57:54.600 I love you.

00:57:55.280 Thanks for always having my back.

00:57:56.380 And to my wife, I love you so much.

00:57:58.920 I wouldn't be standing right here without you.

00:58:01.340 And babe, Julie, I don't know if I'd be breathing, honestly, if it wasn't for you.

00:58:04.080 And to Parker.

00:58:04.760 Wow.

00:58:05.140 Daddy's wine.

00:58:05.780 I love you so much.

00:58:07.180 I'm so proud of you.

00:58:09.480 We are right, baby.

00:58:10.300 That is so funny, dude.

00:58:10.980 Always chase your dreams.

00:58:12.320 What a beautiful moment, man.

00:58:13.820 Really cool.

00:58:14.200 You're an incredible man, Dustin Poirier.

00:58:15.860 See, that's his last fight?

00:58:17.200 I hope not.

00:58:17.660 You're not sure.

00:58:18.400 He's a fighter, man.

00:58:19.440 I think the thing about him, he just like, even if you don't get the W, it's like, there's

00:58:25.420 something about him.

00:58:26.060 He shows up to fight.

00:58:27.020 Yeah.

00:58:27.240 And that's what I think everybody can relate to.

00:58:29.120 It's like, all right, I can go fight.

00:58:31.240 I can fight through another day in my life, whether it's just feeling okay or...

00:58:35.620 Well, when he was talking in the post-conference interviews, he was bringing up the uncertainty

00:58:43.540 of his future.

00:58:45.400 And any time lately, people bring that up.

00:58:47.580 It makes me think about us.

00:58:50.640 What we would do.

00:58:51.280 Yeah.

00:58:51.660 And what's next?

00:58:52.600 I think we just give up music, train for 10 years, and then we can put on our own headlining

00:58:58.080 fight.

00:58:58.560 I'm about it.

00:58:59.100 Me versus you.

00:59:00.280 I don't want to do that.

00:59:00.900 Blah, blah, blah.

00:59:01.600 We can pull like a Sopranos, and right as the fight's about to start, it fades to black,

00:59:05.980 we collect our money.

00:59:06.500 Oh, yeah.

00:59:07.320 We're out.

00:59:08.000 Now, that's brilliant.

00:59:08.960 Yeah.

00:59:09.240 That's brilliant.

00:59:09.640 I'm not going to hit you, bro.

00:59:10.180 I just told him.

00:59:10.860 I'm not going to fucking hit you.

00:59:11.720 That's brilliant.

00:59:12.240 Y'all can fight somebody.

00:59:13.140 Maybe the yin-yang twins.

00:59:14.280 How old are they?

00:59:14.720 Yeah.

00:59:16.120 Yeah.

00:59:16.700 Bro, they have one of the best Cribs episodes ever, the yin-yang twins.

00:59:20.480 They're just like shouting random noises like the whole time.

00:59:23.260 Oh, yeah.

00:59:23.620 That show is so entertaining.

00:59:25.020 Yeah.

00:59:25.300 They got, well, the Saints took their song, wasn't it?

00:59:27.860 Mm-hmm.

00:59:28.680 Yeah.

00:59:28.840 I always thought that was kind of weird.

00:59:30.160 You know, some 80-year-old boys.

00:59:31.560 K-Gates.

00:59:32.520 K-Gates took the beat and made it into the, we yelling who that, the who that say, the

00:59:38.080 gone damn Saints.

00:59:38.380 Oh, really?

00:59:38.980 Damn Saints.

00:59:39.520 Oh, okay.

00:59:40.440 Yeah.

00:59:40.600 But I think there was like some copyright issue.

00:59:43.380 That's them?

00:59:44.420 Yeah.

00:59:45.020 That's yin-yang?

00:59:45.700 So, K-Gates took it and made a version.

00:59:47.240 He made the hook.

00:59:47.840 It's like who that.

00:59:48.700 Yeah.

00:59:48.840 Oh, okay.

00:59:49.440 At the game, you'll hear the yin-yang twins version.

00:59:51.880 Yeah.

00:59:52.380 But New Orleans is interesting, man.

00:59:53.520 A lot of unique.

00:59:54.220 Bro, I was walking down.

00:59:55.140 This is how we even got this art.

00:59:56.300 I'm walking down the street when I, like, going next door to get a coffee.

00:59:59.820 I was thinking, man, it would be cool if we had some neat art.

01:00:03.380 There's a dude sitting outside blazing with his homie.

01:00:06.200 Yeah.

01:00:07.520 Oh, shit.

01:00:08.040 It's Louis Armstrong, I think.

01:00:09.800 Or somebody.

01:00:10.380 It's a jazz player.

01:00:11.420 This dude, Tyrell Shaw.

01:00:13.100 And this is his art, man.

01:00:14.840 And he's like, I was like, dude, I'm about to chat with the Suicide Boys.

01:00:18.200 You want to put a piece in?

01:00:19.360 That's cool.

01:00:19.840 He's like, yeah, man.

01:00:21.240 That's fire that you put him on like that.

01:00:23.360 I respect that.

01:00:24.260 That's supporting local art, baby.

01:00:26.020 It's kind of like what, that's the thing about New Orleans.

01:00:29.120 I mean, you could walk half a block.

01:00:31.120 You'll see talent in the streets.

01:00:32.340 You'll see talent.

01:00:32.940 You'll either get, yeah.

01:00:34.220 You'll either disappear in a pothole, bro.

01:00:36.000 Shit, we got no love in the beginning.

01:00:37.160 You will disappear in a pothole, bro.

01:00:38.420 We was handing out mixtapes, and them bitches were going in the trash.

01:00:42.260 Bro, actually, I'm going to tell the LSU story.

01:00:44.820 Yeah.

01:00:45.500 Scott, when we first started recording and making music, really first attempting to do this shit,

01:00:50.380 we made a CD for him, a mixtape for him.

01:00:53.500 We got it printed.

01:00:54.280 We made 500 of them.

01:00:55.400 I made the cover for him.

01:00:56.640 La, la, la.

01:00:57.040 We go, what are we going to do with this?

01:00:58.740 Let's go to shows and colleges.

01:01:01.060 Let's go hand this shit out.

01:01:02.120 Old school, right?

01:01:02.380 Yeah, I'll put these shades on for this one.

01:01:03.640 And this was also like in 2013.

01:01:06.980 So we're going to old school.

01:01:07.940 We go to LSU campus.

01:01:09.180 We're staying with my brother because he's going to school there at the time.

01:01:11.960 Wow.

01:01:12.380 So y'all didn't go hand shit out?

01:01:13.980 Oh, yeah.

01:01:14.480 And we go in like that big part of the campus where like all the traffic, all the people

01:01:18.280 are walking by.

01:01:19.040 It's like in between classes.

01:01:20.240 Oh, yeah, the quad.

01:01:20.860 Me and Scott hanging out CDs.

01:01:22.140 Like, oh, you fuck with rap.

01:01:22.920 Check this out.

01:01:23.420 Whatever.

01:01:24.500 Bro, first of all, all them CDs ended up in the trash.

01:01:27.360 Like every fucking one.

01:01:28.660 We turned around three feet away from us as the CD on the ground.

01:01:32.160 Yeah.

01:01:32.360 But the funniest thing that happened that day was, I love this part.

01:01:36.800 It was some girl, this like nervous freshman heading to class, a bunch of books in her

01:01:41.840 bag.

01:01:42.540 You could tell she's like kind of on edge.

01:01:44.500 She's riding her bike and she comes in front of me and Scott and rolls over his shoe.

01:01:50.320 And Scott, well, we both do, but Scott loves white shoes.

01:01:53.940 You know, the thing with white shoes is don't fucking scuff them, like keep them clean.

01:01:57.020 And don't ride a bike.

01:01:57.980 Don't ride a bike over him.

01:01:59.680 And he flipped out.

01:02:03.340 And I'm just like laughing the whole time because I just thought it was funny.

01:02:05.400 But he was like, what the fuck?

01:02:07.280 And this girl looks so scared, bro.

01:02:09.260 You got to say this motherfucker still looked like this back then.

01:02:12.280 And she took off, bro, to not look back.

01:02:14.580 And I'm just like dying laughing like the white shoes, man.

01:02:17.580 He's like, I'll floor your whole fucking house, lady.

01:02:19.780 I lost count of how many fights I got in growing up over stepping on people's shoes, bro.

01:02:25.140 That's a sign of disrespect.

01:02:25.640 That's how we met.

01:02:26.420 That's how me and Kyle met at Fountain Blue because this dude was cutting the line.

01:02:30.920 I stepped in his way.

01:02:32.360 It was exam week.

01:02:33.340 I was starving.

01:02:34.960 It was chicken tender and macaroni.

01:02:35.880 I was about to say, it's chicken tender day.

01:02:37.400 Yeah, chicken tender day.

01:02:38.360 We just had a lunch lady on.

01:02:39.360 That's the biggest day.

01:02:40.400 He's cutting the line with his homies.

01:02:42.920 I'm like, nah, this ain't happening today, bro.

01:02:44.560 I step in the way.

01:02:45.420 I step on his shoes.

01:02:47.200 And then, you know, next thing I know, I'm fighting him, both of his sisters who were

01:02:51.640 built like linebackers and a couple other guys.

01:02:55.740 A lot of shouldery women in that area.

01:02:57.500 Yeah, yeah.

01:02:57.840 A lot of shouldery women.

01:02:58.720 And that's how me and Kyle, that's how we got, that's how we met.

01:03:01.260 He was like, yo, come roll with us from here on out.

01:03:03.000 Because when I-

01:03:03.860 You went to Fountain Blue.

01:03:04.620 So check this out.

01:03:05.460 When I first moved up there.

01:03:06.680 I love this.

01:03:07.740 I was-

01:03:08.380 Because that's in St. Timothy Parish.

01:03:09.840 Yeah.

01:03:10.460 So look, I grew up on the West Bank, bro.

01:03:12.420 I'm Henry Ford.

01:03:13.880 I'm used to-

01:03:15.380 If I met-

01:03:16.000 Yeah, go ahead.

01:03:16.580 Go ahead.

01:03:16.840 I just want to set you up.

01:03:17.960 Yes.

01:03:18.400 You know this, but for our audience, you know, the Mandeville is the area of like the families

01:03:22.760 where we're all white and take family portraits at the beach.

01:03:26.120 Yeah.

01:03:26.340 Yeah, yeah.

01:03:26.680 That's the vibe.

01:03:27.240 Yeah, it's fancy over there.

01:03:28.080 That's the vibe.

01:03:28.760 Yeah, yeah.

01:03:29.080 So my back continue.

01:03:29.740 No, thank you for that.

01:03:31.040 And West Bank is definitely different, bro.

01:03:33.340 There's a lot of places-

01:03:34.080 Way grindier.

01:03:34.440 We're doing what we got to do to get by.

01:03:36.020 Yeah, way grindier.

01:03:36.960 You have a fucking-

01:03:37.340 Yeah, you'll have somebody get buried in an oyster half shell or something over there.

01:03:41.160 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:03:41.700 They got some couple cuties over there in tall timbers.

01:03:44.180 I know that.

01:03:44.740 But otherwise, you know, it gets a little bit-

01:03:46.740 You never know, bro.

01:03:47.540 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:03:47.640 You'll have a dude have his eyes taken out of a couple dice put in.

01:03:50.380 No, 100%.

01:03:51.280 Type shit, dude.

01:03:52.160 Yeah, all day.

01:03:53.400 So Scott's coming from that area.

01:03:57.240 Neighborhood's getting really bad.

01:03:58.600 We just had my youngest brother.

01:04:00.240 My dad's like, all right, I'm getting there.

01:04:02.280 I'm getting the family up out of here.

01:04:04.360 Moved to Lacombe right by Mandeville.

01:04:07.240 So I go to Fountain Blue, right?

01:04:09.480 I show up there.

01:04:10.200 I got cornrows in.

01:04:11.900 I got big tall tee.

01:04:13.460 Remember tall tees?

01:04:14.640 I had the big tall tee on.

01:04:16.140 I had some jabos.

01:04:17.200 It's about as baggy as these pants.

01:04:18.720 Oh, Lord.

01:04:19.440 And my bus driver was black.

01:04:22.820 And even him, when I walked in the bus, he said, what the fuck are you doing?

01:04:26.800 So alien just landed, bro.

01:04:29.360 That's the first thing this man tells me on my first day of school to ever get on the

01:04:32.820 bus, five in the morning.

01:04:33.840 He said, what the fuck are you doing?

01:04:35.400 That's a long shirt you was in, too.

01:04:37.060 So I'm like, Scott got on the shirt.

01:04:38.680 It took a few more seconds, the shirt.

01:04:40.200 Yeah, it did.

01:04:41.380 It did.

01:04:41.820 There's somebody behind him like.

01:04:42.960 Yeah.

01:04:43.740 So I sit down.

01:04:44.860 I'm like, I get to the school.

01:04:48.580 It's 2,000 white kids, bro.

01:04:50.780 Oh, yeah.

01:04:51.320 So you want to talk about culture shock?

01:04:53.080 I was like, I thought I landed on another planet.

01:04:57.780 So did they.

01:04:58.760 Yeah.

01:04:59.040 Yeah.

01:04:59.460 Yeah.

01:04:59.840 I thought.

01:05:00.520 Good point.

01:05:01.560 Bro, no one talked to me for a year.

01:05:03.540 Oh, I could see that, bro.

01:05:04.560 I was by myself for a year.

01:05:06.580 Asbestosphere, bro.

01:05:07.580 It took me getting into a fight for Kyle and him to be like, all right, you good.

01:05:12.580 Come on.

01:05:13.320 Damn.

01:05:13.640 And then that's.

01:05:14.200 Yeah.

01:05:14.720 That is a way to prove yourself.

01:05:16.360 That's a short version of the story.

01:05:17.580 That's a short version of the story, you know?

01:05:18.200 Yeah.

01:05:18.540 There's something about walking around a school when nobody talks to you that you create

01:05:22.860 this own universe in your head.

01:05:24.460 Oh, yeah.

01:05:25.040 My high school.

01:05:26.100 Sorry, go ahead.

01:05:26.540 Go ahead.

01:05:26.820 No, it's like a first person game.

01:05:28.600 It's like, you know, you're living in a first person shooter world.

01:05:31.960 Oh, yeah.

01:05:32.020 You know?

01:05:32.280 It's true.

01:05:33.280 I was going to say he got that experience.

01:05:35.060 My experience in high school.

01:05:35.900 I went to Jesuit and it was all boys, Catholic, prep school, whatever.

01:05:40.580 And I definitely did not fit in in that school when I, to this day, if I say that.

01:05:43.860 I didn't know you went to Jesuit.

01:05:44.620 See, when I say I went to Jesuit, people are like, what?

01:05:46.760 You went to Jesuit?

01:05:48.380 And I got involved with drugs early.

01:05:51.740 I was like 14.

01:05:52.820 Earlier to me.

01:05:53.620 Yeah.

01:05:54.040 I was going to, I was actually going to say that story too.

01:05:56.260 I was like 14 and I started, I was like, I'm going to try it all because I just tried

01:06:00.080 weed and it wasn't as bad as they said it was.

01:06:01.820 So I'm going to try it all.

01:06:03.100 I'm going to fuck bitches.

01:06:04.100 I'm going to do crack, all that shit.

01:06:05.960 I did it all.

01:06:06.420 Oh yeah.

01:06:06.760 I love how those are the two.

01:06:08.040 That's the crazy thing about drugs.

01:06:08.860 Fuck bitches and smoking crack.

01:06:09.880 Yeah.

01:06:10.100 It is.

01:06:10.840 Which is funny because those two things really don't go together actually.

01:06:13.480 But anyway, I like spread this rumor about myself.

01:06:17.300 I was snorting heroin on my desk in geometry class.

01:06:21.500 Oh yeah.

01:06:21.940 And I did it because I got off to like how everybody thought I was crazy.

01:06:25.660 Yeah.

01:06:25.900 And I liked it.

01:06:26.740 I liked people thinking I was crazy.

01:06:27.780 So I let the rumor spread when they got back to me, it was like, oh, Adi slangs crack

01:06:34.080 downtown to pay for his high school.

01:06:36.660 La la la.

01:06:37.100 That's like what they were saying about me.

01:06:38.600 That's pretty sick.

01:06:38.860 And I confirmed all of this.

01:06:40.520 Pay for your own way to private school.

01:06:42.120 Why would I do that?

01:06:43.060 First of all, second of all, I confirmed it all.

01:06:45.220 I was like, yeah, that all that's true.

01:06:46.460 And let me tell you something, bro.

01:06:47.640 No one fucked with me.

01:06:48.980 Like everyone let me be.

01:06:51.200 They thought I was cool, whatever.

01:06:52.400 And that was my way of like getting all those guys to fuck off, you know?

01:06:56.320 It's an entrepreneurial thing, bro.

01:06:58.680 Yeah.

01:06:58.960 That dude is.

01:06:59.660 That dude is.

01:07:01.400 Yeah.

01:07:01.640 It's always been like that.

01:07:02.700 It's also like doing the most for like what.

01:07:04.760 Yeah.

01:07:05.080 Yeah.

01:07:05.960 That was a fun time though, bro.

01:07:08.640 Yeah.

01:07:08.860 You used to always, we used to always hear stories about Lil Wayne driving to school.

01:07:11.660 Did y'all hear that story?

01:07:12.600 Uh-uh.

01:07:13.280 That Lil Wayne, like somebody got him a car when he was 14.

01:07:16.040 He didn't even have a license.

01:07:17.160 I believe it.

01:07:17.600 Yeah.

01:07:18.140 And he would drive to school when it was like a home or I don't know, whatever,

01:07:22.240 whatever was hot at the time.

01:07:23.520 Fucking Prowler.

01:07:24.380 Yeah.

01:07:24.700 Something like that.

01:07:25.320 And he would drive in park by the teachers and shit.

01:07:27.540 And nobody said nothing.

01:07:29.220 Yeah.

01:07:29.440 That was like a rumor that we always heard.

01:07:31.300 Shit.

01:07:31.600 That dude was famous since he was 14.

01:07:33.300 Shit's crazy.

01:07:33.880 Yeah.

01:07:34.060 And then Juvenile Day used to have a rumor.

01:07:35.740 He chased a woman with an ice pick.

01:07:37.160 That wasn't a rumor.

01:07:37.940 I'm pretty sure that was real.

01:07:39.200 Yeah.

01:07:39.580 On the North Shore.

01:07:40.280 Yeah.

01:07:40.680 In the neighborhood I live in.

01:07:42.080 I remember like.

01:07:43.040 So as a result of that.

01:07:44.440 At least name a road after him, bro.

01:07:46.080 Check this out.

01:07:47.000 When I was, when they found out I was moving in, the whole HOA had a meeting about a rapper.

01:07:53.160 Oh, just recently.

01:07:54.920 No.

01:07:55.400 When I, when I first moved into that neighborhood a couple of years ago, they had a meeting about

01:08:01.180 whether or not we like this rapper moving in.

01:08:05.340 But I mean, little do they know that.

01:08:07.020 I mean, dude, I, I'm so low key, bro.

01:08:09.440 It happened to us too.

01:08:10.640 When we, we had recently moved to Florida.

01:08:12.380 Oh, Florida too.

01:08:12.880 Yeah.

01:08:13.120 And they found out these two rappers were moving into the neighborhood and they threw

01:08:16.340 a fucking fit, bro.

01:08:17.880 They were not having it.

01:08:18.980 And then we move in.

01:08:19.660 They realize we like are quiet, nice, friendly guys.

01:08:23.540 Yeah.

01:08:23.980 I was like picking up my neighbor's kid from his school.

01:08:26.540 Like, yeah, yeah, yeah, bro.

01:08:27.560 Like.

01:08:28.240 Well, I think there's been a history of like, I mean, you had like, when I was in college,

01:08:32.420 uh, Master P would come over to the rec center and shoot ball.

01:08:36.100 Oh, really?

01:08:36.380 And he would come with Silk.

01:08:37.940 And he would come with, uh.

01:08:39.040 Shout out Silk.

01:08:40.180 Yeah.

01:08:40.940 He would come with.

01:08:41.980 Silk's still in jail.

01:08:42.960 Isn't he?

01:08:43.360 No.

01:08:43.700 See, Murder's still in jail.

01:08:44.800 See, Murder, yeah.

01:08:45.400 See, Murder would come with them.

01:08:47.000 Um, and they would have all kinds of guys over there.

01:08:49.740 But then some of those, yeah.

01:08:50.940 Like, see, Murder went to jail.

01:08:52.700 You had Juvenile went to jail for a while.

01:08:54.620 Then he beat G went to jail.

01:08:55.860 I think there's so much history of a lot of New Orleans rappers.

01:08:58.600 Like, Mystical went to jail.

01:09:00.160 Oh, yeah.

01:09:00.520 So you have a lot of that culture.

01:09:01.820 I think it probably.

01:09:02.620 Damn, I didn't even put all that together.

01:09:04.020 Like, how many, how many New Orleans rappers?

01:09:05.480 It gets fearful for a lot of guys.

01:09:07.180 Yeah.

01:09:07.200 You know, Boosie was in jail for.

01:09:08.560 A long time.

01:09:09.300 Like, what, five years?

01:09:10.080 Four years?

01:09:10.360 Yeah, eight, I think.

01:09:11.180 Maybe seven.

01:09:11.600 Eight?

01:09:12.180 Goddamn.

01:09:12.720 I mean, when you think about that.

01:09:14.000 That's crazy.

01:09:14.480 That's why Boosie moved out.

01:09:15.840 That's why he got out of here.

01:09:15.940 BG was in jail for like a decade.

01:09:17.520 I know.

01:09:17.940 But your dad?

01:09:18.400 Like, they were in the.

01:09:19.120 Oh, yeah.

01:09:19.720 Well, my dad was in that.

01:09:20.820 Yeah.

01:09:21.220 BG was in that.

01:09:21.800 No way.

01:09:22.240 His dad told us a story about, his dad was in St. Tammany, and so was BG.

01:09:27.120 Apparently, BG one day just got fed up.

01:09:29.000 Because imagine being a rapper, you go to jail, how many people are trying to freestyle

01:09:31.480 to you?

01:09:31.980 Oh, my God.

01:09:32.320 You know, like, put me on, whatever.

01:09:34.140 Put me on, and I'm in jail.

01:09:35.620 Yeah, put me on.

01:09:36.700 Just walking in here, they were doing it.

01:09:38.380 There you go.

01:09:39.140 Exactly.

01:09:39.720 So, apparently, BG one day makes an announcement to everybody saying, if one more motherfucker

01:09:43.780 comes up to me in freestyle, I'm going to have a big problem.

01:09:46.720 And they said, okay, bet.

01:09:47.920 And they just beat the shit out of him anyway, or something like that.

01:09:50.060 Yeah, it was.

01:09:51.800 I don't know.

01:09:52.340 Your dad was in St. Tammany?

01:09:54.120 Yeah, he was in St. Tammany.

01:09:55.560 For like eight months, ten months, something?

01:09:57.720 Six.

01:09:58.260 Six.

01:09:58.640 I think six months.

01:09:59.520 It was a DUI.

01:10:01.120 Oh, we shot your first video.

01:10:02.940 Like, that week he got out.

01:10:04.200 He got out.

01:10:04.720 Yeah.

01:10:04.960 It was so fucking crazy.

01:10:06.000 Wow.

01:10:06.060 It was like his first day out video type shit.

01:10:08.260 Did you guys' success give him, like, any cloud in the pen, did he say, or anything

01:10:15.620 like that?

01:10:16.020 No, that was way after.

01:10:17.520 Yeah, that was before.

01:10:18.780 That was, like, actually right before we linked up and stuff.

01:10:24.640 Do y'all see that Rick Ross car show, man?

01:10:26.980 Mm-mm.

01:10:27.340 No.

01:10:27.820 I know he's been, yeah, I know he puts one on.

01:10:30.240 He put one on in his front yard.

01:10:31.340 You trying to go?

01:10:32.560 I think it just happened.

01:10:34.060 I saw that boozy before.

01:10:34.900 Look at this.

01:10:35.240 This is his front yard.

01:10:36.280 I got to put my prescription on.

01:10:38.020 That's his cars?

01:10:40.060 No, people bring their cars, bro.

01:10:41.640 So they pay to buy tickets to go to this.

01:10:44.540 Oh.

01:10:45.880 They probably got some crazy whips out there.

01:10:47.720 Bro, there's a couple.

01:10:49.240 Damn.

01:10:50.240 Was this in Miami?

01:10:52.520 Oh, looks like Atlanta, maybe?

01:10:55.600 Atlanta.

01:10:55.840 I think it's, yeah.

01:10:56.940 There's one.

01:10:59.000 Damn.

01:11:02.460 That's pretty wild.

01:11:03.240 I've never seen no shit like that before.

01:11:05.140 Yeah, that's pretty cool.

01:11:06.060 See, if you get the one with the horses, bro.

01:11:07.520 When you roll in, they got horses.

01:11:09.520 Oh, yeah.

01:11:09.580 That's, I think that's a van at Holyfield's house.

01:11:12.460 Yo, what is that?

01:11:13.440 A fucking Ferrari?

01:11:14.680 Yep.

01:11:15.440 Just as a horse trough?

01:11:17.200 What the fuck, bro?

01:11:18.860 They got horses eating straight hay out of Ferraris, baby.

01:11:21.560 Out of a horse, yeah.

01:11:22.980 That's crazy.

01:11:23.700 Yeah, that's more horsepower, bro.

01:11:24.380 People just be thinking of how to flex, bro.

01:11:26.200 That's horsepower right there.

01:11:27.580 Bro, that's, yeah, that's kind of like a wild, that's a.

01:11:30.800 People be coming up with the craziest ways to flex.

01:11:32.960 Because you have to now.

01:11:33.420 You have to.

01:11:34.580 How many, how much bigger can chains get?

01:11:37.460 How much more expensive can your cars be?

01:11:39.120 You got to start doing crazy shit.

01:11:40.440 Yeah, look at this guy.

01:11:41.260 All these speakers, this dude.

01:11:42.940 This is wild looking.

01:11:44.260 Bro, is that that fucking Toyota?

01:11:46.520 You don't talk about those SUVs?

01:11:47.560 Yeah, that's an FJ.

01:11:48.520 FJ, yeah.

01:11:49.520 That's crazy.

01:11:50.360 Damn.

01:11:51.140 With the Dolphins colors.

01:11:52.720 Dude, my dad used to have a cutlass.

01:11:54.240 My dad bought a cutlass from a couple brothers that live around the corner from us when I was a kid.

01:11:58.060 I've told this story before, but I only have so much stories.

01:12:02.420 And my dad was like probably 80 years old at the time, right?

01:12:07.180 So he buys this bitch that had 22s in a trunk, right?

01:12:09.980 He has no idea.

01:12:10.740 He can't even fucking hear.

01:12:12.360 So, bro, he would take.

01:12:13.600 Subs?

01:12:14.080 Huh?

01:12:14.420 Yeah.

01:12:15.340 22s?

01:12:15.760 Bro.

01:12:16.100 That's fucking huge.

01:12:17.300 Bro, it was huge, bro.

01:12:18.920 He got it.

01:12:19.340 Holy shit.

01:12:19.720 The trunk closed, bro.

01:12:20.840 The dude had to get rid of it quick, bro.

01:12:23.080 So my dad ended up with it, dude.

01:12:25.500 And he would take us to school, bro.

01:12:27.500 Oh, yeah.

01:12:29.700 What the fuck?

01:12:30.700 Bro, my brother got braces and bitches fucking shit.

01:12:33.700 What were y'all listening to?

01:12:35.980 NPR radio.

01:12:38.960 Fuck.

01:12:39.560 The news, bro.

01:12:41.640 Cloudy.

01:12:42.780 80, 80% chance of what?

01:12:45.440 That Thunder hit, though.

01:12:46.640 That Thunder hit with them 22s, bro.

01:12:48.200 Dude, on Q93, though, it would be crazy because even the weather was like, we got a fucking

01:12:52.520 30% chance of it being hot as a motherfucker.

01:12:56.800 It would always be like, damn, this is an adventure, bro.

01:12:59.760 That's crazy.

01:13:00.640 22.

01:13:00.880 It might be raining, bitches.

01:13:02.420 Y'all stay woke.

01:13:04.700 Yeah.

01:13:05.580 It was always like the weirdest weather report on Q93, man.

01:13:09.860 Yeah.

01:13:10.260 A little bounce beat going behind it.

01:13:12.140 Oh, yeah.

01:13:12.620 It would always be something, bro.

01:13:16.080 And B97, that was another one they had before that.

01:13:18.980 B97 was more like top 40.

01:13:20.500 But because it was New Orleans, they also did some hot boy shit.

01:13:23.800 Wasn't Mark involved in B97?

01:13:25.960 Kyle's dad was GM.

01:13:27.740 Yeah.

01:13:27.940 And who's here with you today?

01:13:28.600 Just so I know this week and reference him.

01:13:29.840 Yeah, yeah.

01:13:30.460 This is our management, Kyle and Dana.

01:13:32.140 Kyle and Dana.

01:13:33.040 Yeah, nice to see you guys, man.

01:13:34.260 Respect.

01:13:34.720 As much as they try to stay behind the scenes, we always make sure they get seen at least

01:13:38.400 a couple of times.

01:13:39.320 But y'all's whole world is like that, man.

01:13:40.660 Everything is what I'm saying.

01:13:41.460 It just feels like it's, um, y'all, it feels indie.

01:13:46.160 Yeah.

01:13:46.360 But not in a bad way.

01:13:47.140 It feels like, yeah, it just feels like it's y'all's world.

01:13:50.040 It is.

01:13:50.300 Even, just even that little thing right there.

01:13:52.240 It's like, a lot of people don't have their manual coming.

01:13:54.800 If they do, yeah, they're in a suit or something.

01:13:56.680 And it's, you know, it just feels like it's.

01:13:58.240 It's family to us, bro.

01:13:59.060 Everybody around us.

01:14:00.120 We've been through so much with these guys.

01:14:01.620 Yeah.

01:14:01.700 That's us, our four-person team right here.

01:14:03.740 Yeah.

01:14:04.060 Yeah, like some people, like Will Smith was going to come on.

01:14:07.700 Come on.

01:14:08.700 But he had some issues.

01:14:09.840 What was it?

01:14:10.280 It was like.

01:14:10.680 It was like a scheduling thing.

01:14:12.460 And he wanted a little more control over the conversation.

01:14:16.700 Like we, there was things where like we couldn't, like just, you couldn't ask about it, you

01:14:19.680 know?

01:14:19.800 So it was almost like, then you're just an advertisement for like a movie or something.

01:14:24.420 Yeah.

01:14:24.460 Yeah.

01:14:24.540 You know?

01:14:25.140 Did you not want to ask, like talk about the slap?

01:14:27.620 Yeah.

01:14:27.940 Or even, you couldn't even ask.

01:14:28.960 And I wouldn't have said like, hey, what do you hit a guy or something?

01:14:31.080 I would be like, maybe what's been going on in your life that's been, that's been hectic

01:14:35.600 for you the past couple of years.

01:14:36.660 You know?

01:14:36.860 Just talk about like, what makes you feel like that?

01:14:39.360 Yeah.

01:14:39.780 I don't need to know.

01:14:40.860 Like the detail just seemed like he would be having a tough time probably.

01:14:43.980 Yeah.

01:14:44.340 Unless something was going on between them guys.

01:14:46.340 But, um, but a lot of times too, it's the agents that'll say that shit and the artists

01:14:50.700 or whatever don't have any clue.

01:14:52.080 Yeah.

01:14:52.520 You know, it's just how they want to control and pop and prop.

01:14:55.240 Not us, dude.

01:14:56.320 We, we talk all the time.

01:14:58.420 Everybody's on the same page because a lot of things didn't happen because of communication

01:15:03.080 being fucked up from all of us.

01:15:05.180 Like we all have dropped the ball at some point a little bit with communication.

01:15:07.880 So now, you know, the four of us, that is the most important thing is communication

01:15:11.940 and trust.

01:15:12.620 So any fucking relationship, like it doesn't matter if it's professional, romantic.

01:15:16.300 It's hard to find people to trust, bro.

01:15:19.640 It really, I have a lot of trust issues.

01:15:21.620 I've been fucked over a lot in many ways.

01:15:23.680 Same.

01:15:24.100 Um, so I'm, I'm grateful that I have him and I got, I got these guys.

01:15:28.800 It helps that y'all went to high school together and shit.

01:15:29.320 Yeah.

01:15:29.920 It's my best, Kyle's my best friend.

01:15:31.480 I mean, we're all brothers now, but me and Kyle were best friends since, uh, high school.

01:15:36.040 Shit out of that guy.

01:15:36.800 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, bro.

01:15:39.500 He helped, uh, wash them bike tires off your shoes there, bro.

01:15:43.300 But bro, we wouldn't, I mean, we, we were doing our thing and, and,

01:15:46.300 and they helped take us to another level.

01:15:49.140 Wow.

01:15:49.320 You know what I'm saying?

01:15:50.120 They, it really is a thing.

01:15:51.700 Only good things can only happen with a group effort.

01:15:53.780 It's definitely.

01:15:55.460 Kanye said something not that long ago, man, where he's like something, I'm going to mess

01:15:59.440 it up, but something to the effect of like, nothing's a solo project.

01:16:02.740 Yeah.

01:16:02.940 Nothing is a solo project.

01:16:03.620 You know, like nothing's a solo, to your point.

01:16:05.980 You know what I'm saying?

01:16:06.620 Like it, it, it takes a team of people.

01:16:08.520 It really does.

01:16:09.060 I believe that.

01:16:09.860 And even then the team of people to absorb it and listen to it and want to feel it.

01:16:13.380 Yeah.

01:16:13.560 You know, because it's interesting that listeners of things, and even us, when we listen to

01:16:18.520 stuff, we all, we get a whole different thing out of it than the creator gets, you know?

01:16:22.820 It's really kind of wild.

01:16:24.120 Yeah.

01:16:24.300 It's actually a good point, Theo.

01:16:25.940 And that's, I don't think that point gets brought up enough either because the listeners

01:16:29.340 or the audience rather is, is just as an important part of what the fuck we do and what you do.

01:16:34.520 You know, that doesn't get brought up a lot, I think.

01:16:36.100 Yeah, because you could make, you could be a good chef, but if nobody's enjoying it,

01:16:39.580 you know, nobody's out there licking their lips or whatever, or putting a little bit

01:16:44.000 in their napkin for the dope, I mean, at home or whatever, bro.

01:16:46.900 Yeah.

01:16:47.360 Put some Zatarans on it.

01:16:48.680 Oh, we used to have a lunch lady, bro.

01:16:50.020 She'd take everything, bro.

01:16:51.080 You wouldn't even be done.

01:16:51.900 She'd be like, I'm going to get this for my dog.

01:16:53.520 I'd be like, bitch, I ain't even had it.

01:16:55.560 Can I have my crust back?

01:16:56.780 Yeah.

01:16:57.840 I'm about to put a fur coat on and fucking hang out on your porch, then I'm fucking starving.

01:17:02.280 Because she'd come take it off your plate before you even got to eat, man.

01:17:05.360 That's too funny.

01:17:07.420 But you guys love New Orleans.

01:17:08.700 Are you guys featured in a lot of you guys' videos and stuff?

01:17:10.960 You know, it's obviously like a part of your life that you, so even if you haven't felt

01:17:15.120 like as much of a fan base here, you guys still have a lot of love for Louisiana.

01:17:20.960 Yeah.

01:17:21.540 I mean, dude, I think we both have a lot of love for just the Gulf Coast in general.

01:17:25.180 Just this is the region we're from, we're comfortable here.

01:17:28.280 Shaped who we are.

01:17:29.240 Yeah.

01:17:29.460 A lot of our personality, style, all of that.

01:17:35.760 But yeah, I mean, dude, New Orleans, and someone told us this early on.

01:17:41.060 I remember this.

01:17:41.900 This is when, so basically if I had a, if I can give you a visual presentation, we were

01:17:46.380 trying to go like this.

01:17:48.020 Start local, build regional, go like that.

01:17:51.020 And someone informed us, I'm grateful they did.

01:17:53.280 This is when SoundCloud started popping, internet rappers like, you know, Young Lean, Bones,

01:18:00.440 Zay, when he was Ethel Wolf, all that was popping off.

01:18:03.500 And someone was like, you basically got to attack the internet because everybody here knows

01:18:11.020 who you are.

01:18:12.580 You know what I'm saying?

01:18:13.320 Johnny, Johnny sees you at the gas station three times a week buying cigarettes.

01:18:17.100 Like he ain't really buying what you're selling.

01:18:19.480 Whereas when you go through the internet, and that's what we did, you know, we were able

01:18:26.700 to create this thing where we got popping in all these other places first.

01:18:31.720 And it literally started from like Russia and then came back to New Orleans.

01:18:36.960 New Orleans was the last place.

01:18:38.500 Really?

01:18:38.960 The advice was don't go local to international.

01:18:42.020 Do the internet and attack an international crowd first because your hometown is going

01:18:46.020 to be the last place that fucks with you.

01:18:47.440 And it's true because they still don't fuck with us.

01:18:49.480 Yeah, that's true.

01:18:50.600 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:18:51.780 You know?

01:18:52.260 But Yells, it's so interesting because there's a lot of New Orleans in it.

01:18:58.160 There's a lot of New Orleans in it.

01:18:59.680 You know?

01:19:00.080 Dude, it shaped us.

01:19:01.520 Me and him, bro, we like worshipped cash money.

01:19:04.840 Yeah.

01:19:05.100 We loved Hot Boys.

01:19:05.960 We wanted to be Lil Wayne.

01:19:07.260 Like Lil Wayne was a huge influence on both of us.

01:19:10.260 And I would argue that Master P is a huge inspiration to me and him.

01:19:14.120 How that motherfucker started a label, had a rapping career, almost made it to the NBA.

01:19:18.600 Yeah.

01:19:19.240 Was putting his son in Nickelodeon shows.

01:19:20.960 He was making movies.

01:19:21.680 This motherfucker's a renaissance man.

01:19:23.080 Oh, he was one of the first kind of black.

01:19:25.500 He was kind of an early Tyler Perry.

01:19:27.360 Tyler Perry to everybody, especially from this area.

01:19:29.580 Yeah.

01:19:29.880 He's worth like 600 mil, bro.

01:19:31.520 He was a huge inspiration to us.

01:19:32.900 Yeah.

01:19:33.400 Somebody that could just achieve all that.

01:19:35.360 And especially from being from Calliope Projects, you know?

01:19:38.760 If we're not from the Calliope Projects, what's our excuse of not making it?

01:19:41.620 You know what I mean?

01:19:42.100 Right.

01:19:42.420 This guy went from literally rags to riches.

01:19:44.120 Yeah.

01:19:44.460 Big inspiration on us.

01:19:45.440 A big reason.

01:19:46.280 To us.

01:19:46.700 A big inspiration behind doing the label rather than just focusing solely on Suicide Boys.

01:19:53.420 That's a good point.

01:19:54.100 That was why we did G59.

01:19:55.940 Yeah.

01:19:56.260 It was because of Cash Money and No Limit.

01:19:57.540 Yeah.

01:19:57.700 And then how do you get, like, is Cheddar on G59?

01:20:01.260 Yeah.

01:20:01.700 Okay.

01:20:03.740 Cheddar, Night Lavelle.

01:20:04.820 Germ, Shake.

01:20:06.080 Germ, Shake, Ramirez.

01:20:07.980 Okay.

01:20:08.460 We have about five artists, six including ourselves.

01:20:11.280 Yeah.

01:20:11.960 And so a lot of those guys will tour with you.

01:20:13.680 I know Cheddar toured the last tour that I saw.

01:20:15.700 He was on.

01:20:16.540 2021.

01:20:17.560 Yeah.

01:20:18.980 So.

01:20:19.680 This year we're taking Shakewell.

01:20:21.160 Shakewell.

01:20:21.860 We try to switch it up.

01:20:23.700 We do every tour, you know?

01:20:26.160 And also set those guys up.

01:20:27.920 They do a great job of setting those guys up on their own tour so they get their own shine.

01:20:32.460 Yeah.

01:20:32.820 You know what I'm saying?

01:20:33.680 Yeah, Cheddar just came out with an album.

01:20:35.260 Yeah.

01:20:36.460 What's it called?

01:20:38.020 Sacrifice and Sabotage.

01:20:39.900 Yeah, man.

01:20:40.220 He's great, bro.

01:20:41.460 He's a good dude, bro.

01:20:42.420 I love him, man.

01:20:43.020 He and I have become pretty close.

01:20:44.420 Yeah.

01:20:44.840 He's a good dude.

01:20:45.560 He's a hard worker.

01:20:46.460 He is.

01:20:47.000 He's got a big heart, bro.

01:20:48.160 He's the only person besides me that I know that works.

01:20:50.820 Oh, he's a hard worker.

01:20:51.480 As much as I do, bro.

01:20:52.980 He gets it in.

01:20:54.300 We try to show the boys love, and we've taken them on grade A and stuff, but with the other

01:21:00.500 artists on our label, we try to take them on tour, but also, like he said, set them up

01:21:05.240 on their own tours because it's important, bro, anything in this world that you get through

01:21:09.660 hard work is going to be yours to keep for a very long time.

01:21:12.500 Yeah.

01:21:12.700 But anything that was handed to you that you got very easily, it's not going to last very

01:21:16.540 long.

01:21:16.980 Right.

01:21:17.240 You know?

01:21:17.560 So it's important that these guys grind.

01:21:19.780 We're behind them.

01:21:20.440 We support them and push them to grind and make your own audience.

01:21:23.920 You can borrow some of ours, but I don't want that for you because it's not going to last

01:21:28.040 long.

01:21:28.480 Right.

01:21:28.640 I want you guys to have your fans that you earned, and I want it to be as big as it possibly

01:21:33.360 can.

01:21:33.640 And whatever we can do, to do that, we will.

01:21:35.920 Yeah.

01:21:36.160 I don't think the shortcut of just giving it to you is going to work.

01:21:39.260 It's not going to work.

01:21:39.900 Yeah.

01:21:40.100 Yeah.

01:21:40.380 And a lot of it's inspiration.

01:21:41.840 No, it won't.

01:21:42.180 That's a good point, too.

01:21:42.860 And a lot of it is, even if you're just other artists, you're around each other, you inspire

01:21:46.260 each other, you know?

01:21:47.320 Yeah.

01:21:47.760 Like, you're like, oh, I'm learning from this beat or this thing, or like, oh, this is cool,

01:21:52.340 or wow, look what he brought in.

01:21:53.700 And that's, you know, it's definitely like you guys' own, it's almost your own galaxy

01:21:58.240 or something, or your own like solar system y'all have going on.

01:22:01.060 Yeah.

01:22:01.420 Thank you, bro.

01:22:02.420 Yeah.

01:22:02.780 It's interesting, man.

01:22:04.080 What, so yeah, what is going to be different about the new music?

01:22:06.960 What do you feel like if you had to be specific about it?

01:22:09.300 Bro, I think Scott agrees with me, but sometimes when we make albums or projects, and we don't

01:22:17.820 really like, I don't know how to explain this.

01:22:22.180 There's been projects that we put out that we thought were great, and we wanted to do

01:22:27.740 all these things for it, and like, they were great projects, and they did their thing,

01:22:30.840 and like, they came and went, but there's been a couple where we didn't even think about

01:22:34.800 it, and I don't know, I have this weird feeling that this album is going to be huge.

01:22:39.300 Yeah.

01:22:39.540 And I'm not just saying that to promote it or whatever, I'm not really one for self-promotion,

01:22:42.780 but we both have this weird feeling like, it's like when we don't try, is what I'm trying

01:22:46.860 to say.

01:22:47.140 Oh, yeah.

01:22:47.520 When we don't try, we make a fucking masterpiece.

01:22:50.200 Yeah.

01:22:50.440 But when we're trying too hard, we make like some try-hard shit.

01:22:53.100 Yeah.

01:22:53.280 That doesn't sound as good.

01:22:54.180 Try-hard shit, that's such a good term, man.

01:22:55.980 Yeah, that is good.

01:22:57.180 Because sometimes we'll work on a clip or something, it's like after we kicked it, you can just tell

01:23:00.900 like, man.

01:23:01.200 Don't force it.

01:23:01.800 Yes.

01:23:02.200 We just try to shine this to, or get it, you know, do something, and then we mess it up.

01:23:06.660 You can't.

01:23:07.140 Oh, I was just going to, you know, it gets like, we never wanted to be in a box.

01:23:13.100 We said that from the beginning.

01:23:14.660 We wanted to be able to make whatever we wanted to make at any time.

01:23:17.600 But as you grow, as you grow a fan base in this community, you kind of get put in the

01:23:22.340 box.

01:23:22.380 They get, they have expectations, you know.

01:23:26.940 Luckily, I feel like a lot of them have grown with us.

01:23:29.500 There's still some of those out there that, that's still, Suicide Balls was better in

01:23:34.660 2015.

01:23:35.300 We wanted to, oh, you were better when you were on drugs, whatever.

01:23:39.180 But to his point, this is my favorite album.

01:23:44.440 Same.

01:23:44.860 That, you know, I feel like I say that a lot.

01:23:46.760 But, like, Kyle always says, he's like, dude, y'all just get better and better and better.

01:23:50.760 I don't understand it either.

01:23:52.040 I'm 35 years old.

01:23:53.300 I'm like, you know what I'm saying?

01:23:55.320 I should be retiring soon.

01:23:57.240 But I do think one thing that has helped, you know, Suicide Boys sometimes can feel like

01:24:04.780 a job.

01:24:07.460 Yeah.

01:24:07.720 Because there's, there's deadlines, there's, like, we got to get it done, there's expectations.

01:24:12.280 I think one thing that has helped, like, release the valve a little bit and, like, let some

01:24:17.540 of the pressure off, he's been doing Duck Boy, which is, like, his little, going back to his

01:24:23.280 roots and doing his band stuff and experimenting and being able to be free.

01:24:28.500 And same with me, I've been able to experiment with some, some, some sound solo-wise.

01:24:33.300 And then, when we do that, we, you know, I feel like we feel refreshed, we feel loose.

01:24:37.920 Yeah.

01:24:38.060 And then when we come back to SB, you know what I'm saying?

01:24:41.300 We're actually excited.

01:24:42.140 Yeah.

01:24:42.500 You know?

01:24:42.800 The pressure, like, I don't know.

01:24:44.700 I don't know how to explain it.

01:24:45.160 Well, you can still feel like an individual, I think, because there's something that I'm sure

01:24:49.520 once you're in a group that part of your, the individuality, it's there, but it's, it's

01:24:56.020 partnered with something.

01:24:57.940 Yeah.

01:24:58.160 So to be able to develop yourself more and then bring it to anything is probably pretty cool.

01:25:03.460 Yeah.

01:25:03.640 And to still remind yourself that you can develop as an individual.

01:25:07.580 Yeah.

01:25:07.600 Absolutely.

01:25:08.180 I bet that's, that's interesting.

01:25:09.700 Is there collabs and stuff on this?

01:25:12.080 No.

01:25:12.920 No, we never, we never.

01:25:14.100 We're not really big on collabs.

01:25:15.280 Right.

01:25:15.400 You guys don't do a lot of it.

01:25:16.480 So is, yeah, I was just wondering, is it, is it something you guys ever think about or

01:25:19.580 do people reach out about it?

01:25:20.960 We were supposed to do something with ski mask recently.

01:25:23.720 Um, but the thing is, dude, if you don't catch us when you catch us, you're going to

01:25:28.720 be waiting another year.

01:25:29.740 Right.

01:25:30.060 Cause we move quick.

01:25:30.960 And if, if you, if you pass it up and like, bro, we can't rewind and go back.

01:25:35.740 We still, we have a lot of shit on our own, on our own plates that we have to get.

01:25:38.820 Right.

01:25:39.160 So that is the hardest part about how it happens.

01:25:42.100 It's like getting it back in time.

01:25:44.080 You know what I'm saying?

01:25:44.560 Like getting it done.

01:25:45.520 I think it's best whenever we, like whenever we do joint projects, like we did with germ

01:25:50.080 shake.

01:25:50.500 Well, when we all get in a room together and we're able to just like pound it out for

01:25:54.940 a week or two, we just lock ourselves in the room for a week and knock it out.

01:25:57.900 Yeah.

01:25:58.220 I love listening to sick.

01:25:59.220 Well, dude, she was a very talented fucker.

01:26:01.280 And he's so entertaining.

01:26:02.460 Yeah, bro.

01:26:03.220 Yeah.

01:26:03.420 Was I watching that?

01:26:04.340 Um, he was in that movie.

01:26:05.940 Uh, you and him were in that movie.

01:26:07.640 Yeah.

01:26:08.040 Yeah.

01:26:08.560 I was thinking about that yesterday.

01:26:09.440 Oh, we hung out together for like probably two weeks.

01:26:11.580 That's a solid fucking dude right there.

01:26:13.220 He's awesome.

01:26:14.100 So nice.

01:26:15.140 And just so like, I love how excited he gets when he like gets kind of some information.

01:26:19.700 He's kind of telling you something.

01:26:21.340 Yeah.

01:26:21.640 You know, like it's, uh, he gets that look in his eye.

01:26:24.040 Yeah.

01:26:24.280 Yeah.

01:26:24.560 It's cool.

01:26:25.160 He's just such a warm guy.

01:26:26.800 Yeah.

01:26:27.080 And very talented.

01:26:28.300 So talented, man.

01:26:29.060 I watched it.

01:26:29.440 They have that video.

01:26:31.160 I think it's with Pouya.

01:26:32.120 It's like one.

01:26:33.540 It's all shot in one.

01:26:35.660 Yeah.

01:26:36.980 Gas station.

01:26:38.140 Yeah.

01:26:38.800 Yeah.

01:26:39.000 That was really Shakewell's like kind of coming out to the world right there.

01:26:41.380 It was, that was like his, his, uh, debut.

01:26:42.960 Yeah, it's old.

01:26:43.340 It's old.

01:26:45.060 It's up in the scrubs since day one.

01:26:46.980 The best, there's a comment on it too.

01:26:48.420 It's like, imagine you just going in to pay for gas and you get stuck behind the two guys

01:26:51.920 making a rap video.

01:26:55.140 That's funny.

01:26:55.740 Like, but it was great, man.

01:26:57.380 They did.

01:26:57.580 But all you want is 20 on pump four and the dude's ahead of your making, right?

01:27:00.980 Yeah.

01:27:01.380 That was so good.

01:27:02.960 Pull that credit card out.

01:27:04.280 But yeah, man, when he gets those braids, he's got that Native American look in him a

01:27:08.180 little bit.

01:27:08.560 Cause then he's part Mexican, isn't he?

01:27:09.880 Half Mexican.

01:27:10.580 Yeah.

01:27:11.040 Fucking.

01:27:11.360 He has that it factor to him.

01:27:13.980 You know what I'm saying?

01:27:14.380 Like you can have all the talent in the world, but it's just, you gotta have that it factor.

01:27:20.800 Shake, you can tell it just comes naturally to him.

01:27:22.560 Yes.

01:27:23.260 Yeah.

01:27:23.420 Shake had a background in the hardcore world playing bass in that band, Betrayal and shit,

01:27:27.120 that like metal rock hardcore shit.

01:27:29.240 And so he had experience in music and playing shows and I met him.

01:27:34.200 We both met him when we went to LA for the very first time.

01:27:37.000 We go to fat Nick and Krez's crib.

01:27:39.620 There's like within, I don't know, a couple hours.

01:27:42.000 It's, it's a party all of a sudden.

01:27:43.580 Like, and in LA, I think that just kind of happens.

01:27:46.360 Like there's no plans.

01:27:47.480 Yeah.

01:27:47.980 So we're, we must've met 30 fucking people that night.

01:27:50.440 And I don't remember a single one of them until I shake.

01:27:53.480 Well was one that was a consistent, like consistently hanging around Pouya and stuff.

01:27:57.760 And then we were like, Oh, you make music too.

01:28:00.380 And when people tell you that, and you like have a little success with music, you kind

01:28:03.180 of, you don't really know where the boundary is.

01:28:05.860 Like, are they going to want me to listen to it?

01:28:07.420 And like, am I going to like it?

01:28:08.540 Yeah.

01:28:08.900 But his shit was fire.

01:28:10.540 And you know, we kept our eye on him for a long time.

01:28:13.100 Did you guys ever tour in any of the same circles as guys like Mac Miller, Lil Peep,

01:28:18.320 those guys?

01:28:18.780 That's so fucking weird that you bring that up.

01:28:20.500 We were just talking about this yesterday.

01:28:21.520 We did a festival once in Sweden called Bravalla back in 2017, our first European run.

01:28:26.820 And that festival is not a festival anymore because too many dudes were groping chicks

01:28:30.900 like sexual assault style.

01:28:32.280 Yeah.

01:28:32.460 Watch it, dudes.

01:28:33.460 Yeah.

01:28:33.600 Watch it, guys.

01:28:34.260 We actually had to cut the show short a couple of times to tell them, back up, stop trying

01:28:38.000 to grab titties, whatever.

01:28:39.720 Anyway, Mac Miller was at this festival and that was the first time we met him and kind

01:28:45.360 of kicked it with him a little bit.

01:28:46.740 We also met Linkin Park that day too.

01:28:49.180 Met Chester and Mike and Chester committed suicide like a month after that.

01:28:54.380 It was insane.

01:28:54.920 We met Sway Lee too.

01:28:56.200 We met Sway Lee that night.

01:28:57.040 Sway's dope, huh?

01:28:57.700 Yeah.

01:28:57.940 Yeah.

01:28:58.180 He's a cool guy.

01:28:58.880 He's a guy that-

01:28:59.700 Bro, imagine Jimmy, right?

01:29:01.440 Like, nobody fucks with us.

01:29:03.520 And I'm walking and I hear, hey, scram.

01:29:06.600 And like that high-pitched voice, I turn around, Sway Lee.

01:29:09.540 So I'm just, you know, in that moment, I'm like, what the fuck is going on?

01:29:11.900 It's pretty surreal.

01:29:12.740 Yeah.

01:29:13.120 It was one of those moments, me nodding people, where I'm like, bro, what the fuck is going

01:29:17.840 on?

01:29:17.940 We don't get the nod from a lot of industry artists, or artists in the industry, rather.

01:29:22.780 So we're always curious.

01:29:24.220 But some of it, you enjoy that probably, right?

01:29:26.520 Sure.

01:29:26.540 Sure.

01:29:26.640 Like, it's probably good you're doing our own shit.

01:29:29.600 Bro, Theo, I still work every day.

01:29:31.420 Like, I'm broke.

01:29:32.420 Yeah.

01:29:32.660 I'm in the studio every day.

01:29:35.580 I got this chip on my shoulder that I can't get off.

01:29:39.860 You know what I mean?

01:29:40.360 And that's part of it.

01:29:41.220 What do you think that has to do with sobriety?

01:29:44.060 A little bit?

01:29:45.020 I think so.

01:29:45.540 You're right.

01:29:46.120 A hundred percent.

01:29:46.720 Because I got like that, dude.

01:29:47.980 I would wake up at 1 p.m. on a Wednesday like it was nothing.

01:29:51.160 I didn't give a shit.

01:29:52.280 And now, I can't sleep late.

01:29:54.400 If I'm not cleaning the house or doing something productive, I feel like a fucking piece of shit.

01:29:59.040 I think sobriety is a big factor.

01:30:00.760 Yeah, I think I fell in love with my work.

01:30:03.060 You know, I don't have a wife or nothing yet or anything.

01:30:05.240 But I think my first love is my work.

01:30:07.260 It's like, and I remember back to relationships I was in, I would get home with my girl.

01:30:12.000 We'd have gone and done something.

01:30:12.960 And then next thing I know, I always remember I'm on my computer.

01:30:15.640 I'm doing something.

01:30:16.460 Yeah.

01:30:16.780 And she's like waiting to watch a show together or watch a movie or make some popcorn.

01:30:20.820 Yeah, yeah.

01:30:21.240 And then after a while, she's gone.

01:30:23.400 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:30:24.240 I'm just sitting there.

01:30:25.500 I've been in a relationship now almost four years.

01:30:27.680 And to your point, she was like, she respects it.

01:30:33.580 You know, she knows how I am.

01:30:34.620 She knows how I work.

01:30:35.460 She respects it.

01:30:36.300 I can see how it would get frustrating from the female point of view.

01:30:38.480 She was like, can you at least just start taking the weekends off and hanging out with me?

01:30:42.980 And I was like, yeah, you got a point.

01:30:44.380 I can do that.

01:30:45.740 Recently, I had to start like cutting off work at like six o'clock, seven o'clock for

01:30:51.640 the West Coast.

01:30:52.700 Because with this job, whatever you want to call it, there's no hours.

01:30:57.000 It's not a nine to five.

01:30:58.240 Things can pop up at 1 a.m.

01:30:59.720 Things could pop up any day of the week and you don't know when or where it's coming from.

01:31:03.900 So I kind of for myself had to set something up to where it's like after six, it can wait

01:31:07.900 till the fucking morning.

01:31:08.740 Yeah.

01:31:09.040 Unless it's an emergency.

01:31:10.420 Yeah.

01:31:10.780 I had to put that limit on myself.

01:31:12.820 Like, yeah.

01:31:13.740 Yeah.

01:31:14.020 You don't realize.

01:31:14.640 Yeah.

01:31:14.740 You kind of just start to think, oh, I just have to work, but it's not really true.

01:31:17.460 It's your own choice.

01:31:18.340 And then you wonder, why am I going fucking crazy?

01:31:20.420 Oh, because I have too much shit on my plate.

01:31:21.980 I'm trying to do too many things at once.

01:31:23.140 And again, I would attribute that to sobriety.

01:31:25.300 Yeah.

01:31:25.560 But all you guys' stuff is very hands-on.

01:31:27.620 It's like even all your merch, the way it looks, it's like, yeah, it all like just like

01:31:33.000 the fonts.

01:31:33.640 It's all very specific to you guys' world.

01:31:35.420 Our merch available next week.

01:31:38.680 You're seeing two exclusive pieces.

01:31:40.640 Really?

01:31:41.300 I want those.

01:31:42.080 This is from the album.

01:31:43.400 I'll give you this one when I leave.

01:31:45.120 Crazy.

01:31:45.520 I got a shirt in the car, too, if you want.

01:31:47.200 Oh, I'll fuck.

01:31:47.700 Yeah.

01:31:47.920 What size do you wear?

01:31:49.500 Probably-

01:31:50.300 Large or XL?

01:31:51.080 High M to XL.

01:31:52.920 Okay.

01:31:53.400 It's a high M?

01:31:54.640 Yeah.

01:31:54.940 A medium, motherfucker?

01:31:55.940 This is a large.

01:31:56.260 It's a big medium.

01:31:57.480 What the fuck's a big medium?

01:31:58.800 Kind of like a Toledo medium.

01:32:00.620 Okay.

01:32:00.860 I heard a shmedium.

01:32:01.780 I ain't never heard of a big medium.

01:32:03.600 A big medium?

01:32:04.460 I ain't never heard of a big medium.

01:32:05.760 Let me get them big mediums.

01:32:07.720 Dude, I remember one time, bro, we used to make shirts before the Saints games, right?

01:32:12.060 So, it was like, we would get them printed.

01:32:16.560 Oh, my sister had made love to some dude or whatever, and that shit fell apart, and he

01:32:21.320 left in the settlement or whatever.

01:32:24.260 She got like 350 black t-shirts, right?

01:32:27.600 Damn, what?

01:32:28.440 Yeah.

01:32:29.200 What?

01:32:30.140 Large ones.

01:32:30.980 So, let's just, you know, double XLs.

01:32:33.460 You know what I'm saying?

01:32:34.200 Fucking those brother outfits.

01:32:35.220 That's how I rock it.

01:32:36.140 Yeah.

01:32:36.300 Tall tees.

01:32:37.340 Yeah, yeah, yeah, brother.

01:32:38.220 That fucking, yeah, yeah.

01:32:38.980 It's got a Fountain Blue debut, too.

01:32:40.600 Yeah, I still rock it like that.

01:32:42.120 Yeah, that Fountain Blue.

01:32:43.420 It's like a Fountain Blue homecoming dress.

01:32:45.660 Yeah.

01:32:46.120 You know what I'm saying?

01:32:46.520 That's what it is.

01:32:47.960 For men or women.

01:32:49.200 That's what she got in a settlement?

01:32:51.000 Yeah.

01:32:51.320 That's pretty wild.

01:32:51.980 So, she got 300 of them bitches.

01:32:54.120 So, and she and I were living together off of Claver, and so we're like, damn, bro,

01:32:57.360 we got to make some fucking money, you know?

01:32:59.420 Yeah.

01:32:59.640 And so, we got some Saints shirts printed up, and like, with the Saints shit on, so it was

01:33:04.160 illegal.

01:33:04.680 We couldn't have it.

01:33:05.560 Sure.

01:33:05.580 Fool leg.

01:33:06.240 Oh, yeah.

01:33:06.840 So, we're walking before the Saints games just with ice chest and shit.

01:33:10.160 I quit comedy for this for about maybe nine months, and we're walking and trying to sell

01:33:15.600 them bitches.

01:33:16.720 And some dude, angry dude, came up and tried to order a couple big mediums.

01:33:21.680 Big mediums.

01:33:22.460 That's what he said?

01:33:23.180 Yeah.

01:33:23.780 We tried to help him, bro, but he wasn't willing to negotiate.

01:33:26.480 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:33:27.120 His perspective of a medium.

01:33:28.480 Right, right, right.

01:33:30.040 Can I put an M in front of this L?

01:33:32.260 You know what I'm saying?

01:33:33.180 Yeah, he wanted a market.

01:33:34.860 Yeah, he was negotiating from a real unique angle.

01:33:37.540 He wanted an ex-medium.

01:33:39.620 What a guy.

01:33:40.580 I'd like to meet him.

01:33:41.780 My girlfriend would walk around.

01:33:43.140 I know she was so embarrassed.

01:33:44.020 Not embarrassed.

01:33:44.600 She was supportive, but she was like, this dude's got to get a fucking job.

01:33:49.440 Sounded like my dad, bro, when we were early on.

01:33:52.840 Yeah?

01:33:53.200 He's like, you're running up my fucking AC bill?

01:33:55.580 You're running up?

01:33:56.180 Oh, yeah, dude.

01:33:57.700 When this shit's going to work, you need to go get a fucking job.

01:34:00.380 About music, you mean?

01:34:01.680 Yeah, this was early on.

01:34:02.180 Because we were like in the studio all the time.

01:34:04.700 So the studio we had was a little, one of those, you know them sheds you can buy at Home Depot?

01:34:09.200 Yeah.

01:34:09.320 And like set up?

01:34:09.900 It was that.

01:34:10.180 Especially this is like back in 2002.

01:34:11.100 You ran with the plywood one, Stiles?

01:34:12.800 This was like, what's the fake plywood paneling or whatever?

01:34:16.000 Yeah, something like that.

01:34:17.320 A plastic looking wood?

01:34:18.380 My mom did hair in there and then, you know, she quit doing it.

01:34:21.060 We turned it into a studio.

01:34:22.940 So I was living there on the couch.

01:34:25.320 We were working in there.

01:34:26.300 He'd come up like three, four days out the week and sleep over there.

01:34:29.120 Everything before I Want to Die was made in there.

01:34:31.140 Yeah.

01:34:31.460 Everything.

01:34:32.100 Yeah.

01:34:32.680 Even some of I Want to Die was.

01:34:34.220 Some of his, yeah.

01:34:34.700 Yeah, some of them was made in there.

01:34:35.600 Fucking King Tulip.

01:34:36.420 That place is legendary.

01:34:37.480 But yeah, he was bitching at me, bro.

01:34:38.760 He's like, bro, you got to go get some fucking money, dude.

01:34:41.500 Because you running my shit up.

01:34:43.060 It's funny.

01:34:43.320 You got people eating my fucking pantry out and shit.

01:34:45.880 Oh, yeah, bro.

01:34:46.800 I would sleep over there.

01:34:47.420 Moms would always say that.

01:34:48.480 Well, you know how coming from here, bro, they think of Hollywood.

01:34:53.020 They're like, man, this fucking pipe.

01:34:55.100 Like, go to the shipyard, bro.

01:34:56.320 Get a job.

01:34:56.960 Get a real job.

01:34:57.300 Yeah, go to the shipyard.

01:34:58.680 But yeah, go through.

01:35:00.200 My mom used to always tell us to get a paper ride or whatever.

01:35:03.540 I'm like, everybody goes missing in this neighborhood.

01:35:08.620 But yeah, I'm trying to think of the jobs we would get, man.

01:35:12.020 I would just work in my dad's restaurant.

01:35:13.960 Oh, snowball stand, bro.

01:35:15.200 How many families in New Orleans have fallen apart over joint-owned snowball stand?

01:35:21.060 I don't know, bro.

01:35:22.060 Someone should look into that.

01:35:23.540 People down here take them things fucking seriously, bro.

01:35:26.260 Yeah, bro.

01:35:26.660 Depending on the style of shaved ice it is, the quality of the syrup.

01:35:31.020 People take that shit mad serious down here.

01:35:32.940 Yeah, like we get the syrup fresh from Italy.

01:35:34.940 People saying all kind of bullshit or whatever.

01:35:37.120 You'll have somebody out of state being like, oh, a snow cone.

01:35:39.200 And people are like, uh-uh.

01:35:40.140 It's a snowball.

01:35:40.960 They get very defensive.

01:35:42.160 It's a snowball, bruh.

01:35:43.440 Yeah.

01:35:44.380 Yeah, bruh.

01:35:45.120 It's a snowball.

01:35:45.620 Oh, buddy, Thomas Macaluso used to go to Jesuit.

01:35:47.740 You ever remember him?

01:35:48.600 That sounds so familiar.

01:35:49.460 He used to make fake IDs, and he was always selling those.

01:35:52.120 Macaluso is like a big New Orleans name, I think.

01:35:54.120 Yeah.

01:35:54.400 His brother's a cop.

01:35:57.160 Fucking T-Mac.

01:35:58.000 He's the best, bro.

01:35:59.000 Damn, I just-

01:35:59.940 And he had a snowball stand, and then he opened up an Italian restaurant, bro.

01:36:03.180 The total fucking-

01:36:04.300 That's the holy trinity, bro.

01:36:05.340 Right there for New Orleans, a snowball stand.

01:36:07.240 There you go.

01:36:08.700 Snowball stand, an Italian restaurant.

01:36:10.640 Oh, yeah, bro.

01:36:11.320 That also does po' boys.

01:36:12.480 Oh, for sure, bruh.

01:36:13.600 You know?

01:36:14.000 You can get a snow cone on French bread if you want, bruh.

01:36:16.620 Yeah.

01:36:16.960 They'll do it like that.

01:36:17.320 They do pickle juice in the snowballs.

01:36:19.980 Like, that's a flavor.

01:36:20.740 Do they?

01:36:20.860 Yeah, it's a West Bank thing.

01:36:22.480 Yeah.

01:36:22.720 They'll do pickle juice.

01:36:23.340 Sounds like it.

01:36:24.160 People do everything, dude.

01:36:25.560 Bag shrimp on the side of the road, strawberries.

01:36:28.520 I can't tell you how many crawfish shells I see, like, just scattered.

01:36:32.140 I thought we were going to do this-

01:36:33.380 Chicken bones.

01:36:33.700 Do this shit in the woods.

01:36:34.880 I know you had talked about it.

01:36:35.820 I thought about it.

01:36:36.340 It's too hot, bruh.

01:36:36.840 It was so hot, bruh.

01:36:37.640 And the sounds, too.

01:36:38.980 We'll have to catch it.

01:36:39.920 But we got the streetcar going by.

01:36:41.420 This is a-

01:36:42.040 Oh, yeah.

01:36:42.380 This is good.

01:36:43.180 We were in here last night for a couple hours.

01:36:44.860 These guys were in here.

01:36:45.840 The vibes are right.

01:36:47.040 We wanted to make it nice for you guys, man.

01:36:48.580 Fuck yeah.

01:36:49.980 So this tour, where will you guys go?

01:36:52.200 Like, I know, like, you guys would go abroad and stuff like that.

01:36:54.860 But, like, are there new places you add?

01:36:56.900 Are there hot pockets?

01:36:57.800 You said Russia was one of the places that-

01:36:59.560 One of the first.

01:37:00.060 That was one of the first places we ever went.

01:37:01.360 That's crazy.

01:37:02.240 What?

01:37:03.400 Yeah, bro.

01:37:03.960 2015, 16?

01:37:05.260 From fucking Laplace to Russia, bro?

01:37:07.420 Yeah, pretty much.

01:37:08.040 We, like, brought my dad with us because-

01:37:10.660 He was our DJ.

01:37:12.120 He was our DJ, bro.

01:37:13.740 Not only that, but we didn't want to go to Russia, Dolo, because we were worried about,

01:37:18.200 like, customs.

01:37:19.020 And, dude, we really had no experience traveling.

01:37:21.020 If y'all saw Russia immediately, I would put y'all, dude.

01:37:24.160 Oh, dude.

01:37:24.720 Two of y'all make one Britney grind, bro.

01:37:26.460 It was sketch, bro.

01:37:27.260 I remember-

01:37:28.040 It was sketch.

01:37:28.840 Two things.

01:37:29.260 There was one, my dad ended up being the DJ, and it was funny because we had Scott's

01:37:34.180 MacBook.

01:37:34.980 Didn't we do this all for, like, a thousand bucks, too?

01:37:37.420 The Russian shit?

01:37:38.200 Yeah.

01:37:38.340 It was cheap.

01:37:39.000 I think it was, like, something like that.

01:37:40.580 Two grand, maybe.

01:37:41.140 Yeah.

01:37:41.760 Anyway.

01:37:42.200 How'd you even find out there were your fans?

01:37:44.640 Somebody hit us up asking if we- He emailed us.

01:37:47.960 He was a promoter in Russia asking if we wanted to come over there and play a few shows because

01:37:51.820 we had a fan base out there.

01:37:53.480 And we said, yeah, sure.

01:37:54.880 And back then, the experience was cool enough.

01:37:57.640 We didn't care about the money.

01:37:58.360 That was just a bonus.

01:37:59.260 Yeah.

01:37:59.280 So, we went to Russia, did Minsk, Belarus, St. Petersburg, and Moscow.

01:38:04.220 Yeah.

01:38:04.540 My dad's up there behind us.

01:38:05.820 First of all, hottest fucking shows ever.

01:38:07.600 Yeah.

01:38:08.060 And my dad's on the MacBook, and we taught him, like, this means press the space bar to

01:38:12.480 stop the song.

01:38:13.480 If we do this, that means slowly turn it down.

01:38:16.380 He was so nervous, bro.

01:38:16.660 It's funny.

01:38:16.900 He's sitting there with his glasses, like-

01:38:19.080 And he was so nervous.

01:38:20.880 He's in his 50s.

01:38:22.580 He's in his 60s now.

01:38:23.540 He's, you know-

01:38:24.580 Late 50s back then, yeah.

01:38:25.940 Yeah.

01:38:26.340 Oh, that'll age you 10 years, Stan.

01:38:27.820 Yeah, I could tell he was, like, nervous as fuck, and I felt bad.

01:38:31.220 Where was it where they rushed the stage?

01:38:33.040 That was, bro, Minsk?

01:38:36.660 So, we're in Minsk.

01:38:37.520 If they rush the stage, hit the space bar.

01:38:39.100 Last song.

01:38:40.200 Last song.

01:38:40.960 They just, they, literally, the whole crowd runs up on the stage.

01:38:44.960 I look back.

01:38:45.520 I see Uncle Pablo's.

01:38:47.180 I see his dad just sitting there, like, surrounded by people.

01:38:50.900 He's flipping the fuck out.

01:38:53.060 He's like, turn it down or a space bar?

01:38:54.400 Yeah, he was like-

01:38:55.040 I don't know which one.

01:38:55.780 It looked like he was floating, like they were carrying.

01:38:57.820 You know, yeah.

01:38:58.380 That was the youngest show we've ever played.

01:38:59.940 All those kids were, like, 12, 13.

01:39:01.240 Yeah.

01:39:01.620 To this day.

01:39:02.720 Yeah, it was wild.

01:39:04.020 Minsk was interesting.

01:39:05.480 I never even heard of Minsk.

01:39:06.960 It's just right in Belarus, right outside Russia.

01:39:09.660 So, just the fact that you're even saying that.

01:39:11.720 To think that you could make something, right?

01:39:13.980 That you could make something on the fucking West Bank.

01:39:16.060 That you could make something in a parish, just in a small town in Louisiana,

01:39:21.100 and then there's people in Minsk, Russia.

01:39:23.180 Yeah.

01:39:23.300 It's crazy.

01:39:23.720 It trips me out, bro.

01:39:24.880 Honestly, it's crazy.

01:39:25.400 It really does.

01:39:26.160 It's unreal, man.

01:39:27.500 Yeah, and this year, we went back to Australia and New Zealand.

01:39:32.760 Oh, is that it?

01:39:35.220 Holy shit, bro.

01:39:36.480 That's Russia.

01:39:37.020 Ivan Minsk.

01:39:37.720 Holy shit.

01:39:39.660 13, 05, 16.

01:39:41.100 Wow, they have 13 months there?

01:39:44.580 Yeah, holy shit.

01:39:45.760 Yeah, what the-

01:39:46.460 Oh, no, they put their days before the month.

01:39:48.320 I remember after this show, this is what, Minsk?

01:39:52.540 Look at him.

01:39:53.080 Look at him.

01:39:54.100 Look at him.

01:39:55.140 Look at him by the DJ.

01:39:56.360 Dad in the back?

01:39:57.640 Yeah.

01:39:59.020 That's my dad fucking DJing.

01:40:00.820 Focused.

01:40:01.460 Damn, focused and fuck, bro.

01:40:04.060 DJ Uncle P.

01:40:05.000 He's like, down, space park.

01:40:07.340 Oh, dude, he was a nervous wreck.

01:40:09.320 Bro, he ain't moving.

01:40:10.560 Oh, of course he ain't moving, bro.

01:40:11.980 He got funny.

01:40:12.600 He looked like a statue.

01:40:14.000 Bro, it's like when you're driving with two foot on each pedal.

01:40:17.540 Yeah, yeah.

01:40:18.400 Dude, that is so funny that-

01:40:21.060 Bro, that's-

01:40:21.320 Look at him.

01:40:23.180 Shout out, Uncle P.

01:40:25.020 I think I fell off stage.

01:40:27.120 No, that was Moscow.

01:40:28.000 I fell off stage in this big-ass Russian bodyguard, bald dude, fucking dead eyes.

01:40:33.460 Just the smoothest thing.

01:40:36.320 My leg falls off.

01:40:37.640 I fall off stage and he just like threw me back on stage.

01:40:40.060 I was like, whoa.

01:40:41.580 That was crazy.

01:40:42.400 It's wild over there.

01:40:43.320 They don't have children playing with dolls that are made out of stone and shit.

01:40:45.880 Those kids are tough.

01:40:46.820 Yeah.

01:40:47.100 They're tough kids.

01:40:47.780 It's a tough people, dude.

01:40:49.000 It's a different world over there.

01:40:49.900 It's a harsh country, you know?

01:40:51.860 I respect Russians, bro.

01:40:53.040 Those people, they get shit done, bro.

01:40:54.920 They're nuts.

01:40:55.380 They drink vodka and eat-

01:40:56.960 What's that shit?

01:40:58.000 Pussy.

01:41:00.280 Borscht.

01:41:01.160 Borscht.

01:41:01.440 Oh, Borscht.

01:41:02.120 Caviar.

01:41:03.000 Some of the best sushis in Moscow.

01:41:05.620 Really?

01:41:06.140 Mm-hmm.

01:41:07.460 Delicious.

01:41:07.740 I wouldn't say go out there.

01:41:08.980 I wouldn't-

01:41:09.500 Yeah, I ain't going all the way over there, bro.

01:41:11.120 I might go to Metairie to get something.

01:41:13.080 Yeah, I ain't going all the way over there.

01:41:15.420 Yeah, go to Mickey Motor or something.

01:41:17.000 What was the place y'all would go eat at and stuff?

01:41:19.760 Did y'all ever, when your family would go out to eat when you were kids, was there

01:41:22.580 a spot y'all family would go that was kind of a nice place?

01:41:25.080 No.

01:41:25.580 Pizza Hut.

01:41:26.820 Pizza Hut when you could sit down?

01:41:28.000 Yeah.

01:41:28.520 When it was, you remember that?

01:41:30.040 When it was like-

01:41:30.720 Buffet style.

01:41:31.280 It had that aura to it, you know what I'm saying?

01:41:34.160 Nice, bro.

01:41:34.380 It had that aesthetic.

01:41:35.180 Not anymore.

01:41:35.940 Yeah.

01:41:36.140 Go in.

01:41:36.900 I don't think we really ever went out as a family when I was younger.

01:41:39.560 Yeah, we didn't either.

01:41:40.800 Our biggest-

01:41:42.280 That one.

01:41:42.980 Yeah.

01:41:43.480 Yeah, that was so nice.

01:41:44.560 Now it's like a trap house for Ragu, dude.

01:41:46.780 Bro, until this, I didn't see past Biloxi.

01:41:53.480 Biloxi was like-

01:41:54.320 Maybe Pensacola.

01:41:55.500 Maybe.

01:41:55.660 Oh, dude, when I was growing up, bro, if somebody went to Florida, bro, you thought

01:42:00.940 they was the fucking richest guy in the world.

01:42:03.720 That's like the yacht, like-

01:42:05.780 Oh, we're going to Pensacola.

01:42:07.620 Yeah.

01:42:08.280 You'd see somebody had a t-shirt that said Florida on, you'd be like, this motherfucker.

01:42:12.020 Yeah.

01:42:13.140 Look at this fucking Republican.

01:42:15.060 There's like a connection.

01:42:15.760 Yeah.

01:42:16.240 Yeah.

01:42:16.440 That's what you would think of.

01:42:17.060 Yeah.

01:42:17.500 100%, bro.

01:42:18.260 Look at this fucking Republican over here in Florida.

01:42:21.160 Fucking doing it.

01:42:22.080 There's a lot of Louisiana people in Florida.

01:42:24.420 It must be the Gulf Coast.

01:42:25.360 I don't know.

01:42:25.780 It's just so close, but there's so many-

01:42:27.320 I won't say where, but we're on the panhandle, and it's, yeah, it's a lot of Louisiana transplants.

01:42:33.660 Well, Louisiana was some of the first people outside of Florida to realize what a great

01:42:36.760 spot Destin was, too.

01:42:38.360 Some brave people.

01:42:39.720 I don't even know who it was.

01:42:41.020 Bro, that place was barren in like the 80s.

01:42:43.460 Yeah.

01:42:43.760 No police, no roads, no nothing.

01:42:46.200 And people lived out there, and let's say they bought a house back then for 30K.

01:42:49.880 I mean, they're selling for like 10 million now.

01:42:52.380 It's nuts.

01:42:52.680 That's crazy, bro.

01:42:53.500 That place is hot right now.

01:42:54.680 We could have bought one, bro.

01:42:56.420 Who?

01:42:56.880 Any buy.

01:42:57.720 I know.

01:42:58.020 We should have.

01:42:58.860 Stupid.

01:42:59.720 Well, it's funny because you said about the Florida thing.

01:43:01.840 I think it was like if your family from Louisiana goes to Florida for summer vacation, if you

01:43:07.340 went to Pensacola, you guys were well off.

01:43:09.240 But if you went to Destin, oh.

01:43:11.600 Oh, shit.

01:43:12.240 You were damn royalty, bro.

01:43:13.380 Might as well just-

01:43:14.020 Yeah.

01:43:14.160 I don't know.

01:43:15.160 I didn't know people that went to Destin.

01:43:16.420 Yeah.

01:43:16.900 Your stepdad must have owned a Subway or something.

01:43:19.300 Yeah.

01:43:20.640 We had a girl in Covington.

01:43:22.640 Yeah.

01:43:22.840 Your stepdad owned a Subway, and they'd always go to Destin.

01:43:25.240 Yeah.

01:43:25.720 Your stepdad that owned a K&B or whatever.

01:43:27.780 Those motherfuckers.

01:43:28.960 Dude, I got a blowjob from Jared from Subway's sister one time in the corner.

01:43:32.360 Shut the fuck up.

01:43:33.600 Was it five?

01:43:34.340 Huh?

01:43:34.860 Was it five?

01:43:35.380 Were you like eight?

01:43:36.580 I mean, I was, no, I would say I was probably about five.

01:43:39.580 No, because he's a pedo, you know.

01:43:41.840 Oh, yeah, I see.

01:43:42.660 Ran in the family or what.

01:43:43.740 I mean, I had a pretty small wiener at the time, but I was young, you know.

01:43:47.040 Yeah, yeah.

01:43:47.140 I had a four-inch round on me.

01:43:48.540 They discontinued it.

01:43:49.680 Yeah.

01:43:51.100 Five-dollar foot long?

01:43:52.320 Remember that bread?

01:43:53.180 They used to have that four-inch round, bro.

01:43:54.860 They got rid of that bitch.

01:43:55.820 Subway's always like trying new things and getting rid of them.

01:43:58.840 Oh, yeah.

01:44:00.040 Was that before the controversy with her brother?

01:44:02.660 That was, let me see, 2002?

01:44:11.620 Are you, 2002?

01:44:12.940 Damn, brother.

01:44:13.360 That was way before the controversy.

01:44:15.340 2002 to 2006, somewhere in there.

01:44:17.660 That's like right when Jared first started, like, being Jared.

01:44:20.860 But, yeah, was it fire?

01:44:23.140 I don't know.

01:44:23.660 I wouldn't say all that.

01:44:24.560 I don't know much of it.

01:44:25.740 It was in the quarters late.

01:44:27.040 It was indoors.

01:44:28.100 It was just something to do?

01:44:29.240 Yeah, well, it was, yeah, we just, it was just kind of.

01:44:31.120 Was it toasted?

01:44:31.380 It was a crazy, it was toasted.

01:44:35.660 Did you get a drink and chips with it?

01:44:39.000 Bro, that would have been crazy, bro.

01:44:41.240 I got a drink and chips with it.

01:44:43.140 Some Miss Vicky's, you know.

01:44:45.300 Oh, it was a Miss Vicky's.

01:44:47.340 That's a Subway hack.

01:44:48.920 You got to buy a bag of salt and vinegar Miss Vicky's and put it on the sandwich.

01:44:51.940 That's the hack.

01:44:52.920 I never done that, man.

01:44:53.560 Get a little crunch in there.

01:44:54.780 I don't think if I got a good hack.

01:44:56.920 I got nothing, man.

01:44:58.640 I got nothing.

01:44:59.220 I can't believe you got blown by Jared's sister.

01:45:01.480 That's insane.

01:45:01.820 I cannot wait.

01:45:02.580 Sorry to tell you all that, too.

01:45:03.560 I just didn't tell you.

01:45:03.820 No, it's awesome.

01:45:04.240 Dude, I love it.

01:45:04.780 That's crazy, dude.

01:45:05.880 I forget about it, and then I'm in New Orleans, and I had to say it.

01:45:09.060 Oh, dude.

01:45:09.520 One time I went and saw Hot Fly Like Paper Get High Like...

01:45:15.380 Oh, M.I.A.?

01:45:16.340 Yeah.

01:45:16.620 I went and saw her at...

01:45:18.660 She blew you, too?

01:45:19.440 No.

01:45:20.840 No.

01:45:21.120 No, it would have probably been neat, but I saw the guy from Step Brothers there at

01:45:26.900 the concert.

01:45:27.680 John C. Reilly?

01:45:28.560 Yeah.

01:45:29.180 No, huh?

01:45:30.340 It was like 4 a.m.

01:45:31.360 She finally went on.

01:45:32.240 That's crazy.

01:45:33.040 That was cool.

01:45:33.900 Yeah.

01:45:34.140 House of Blues or some shoot?

01:45:35.100 4 a.m.

01:45:35.740 It was over on a warehouse district.

01:45:37.360 No, and Frenchman.

01:45:39.060 Okay.

01:45:39.820 I'm trying to think of another good show.

01:45:41.220 Oh, the first show I ever went to was at Rendon Inn.

01:45:43.180 I don't know if you guys remember.

01:45:43.760 It was an old restaurant they used to have.

01:45:45.840 And Marilyn Manson played.

01:45:47.180 Damn.

01:45:48.500 Was it the 90s?

01:45:49.380 Yeah.

01:45:49.680 Late 90s?

01:45:50.600 Yeah, and we went to there, dude, and it was crazy.

01:45:53.400 The biggest, the craziest New Orleans venue was like, I think it was called The Warehouse.

01:45:56.960 Yeah.

01:45:57.480 And all the dads love talking about The Warehouse.

01:46:00.140 They saw The Beatles and David Bowie and all this crazy shit, but that place goes down.

01:46:03.320 I've never heard of it.

01:46:03.640 Oh, yeah.

01:46:03.980 My friend did a documentary on it.

01:46:05.460 It's too old for us.

01:46:06.220 Oh, really?

01:46:06.860 Yeah.

01:46:07.160 Wow.

01:46:07.260 I think, what's his name, played the Riders on the Storm?

01:46:11.220 Jim Morrison.

01:46:11.980 I think he played his last show there, they said.

01:46:13.920 Wow.

01:46:14.460 That's pretty crazy.

01:46:15.500 My friend Jesse Williamson did a documentary called The Warehouse.

01:46:18.860 Yeah, they had a lot of artists go through there.

01:46:20.760 That was like the spot, like, back in the day.

01:46:22.400 If you were-

01:46:22.780 Where was that?

01:46:23.340 Teenager in the 70s?

01:46:24.800 It was like a little outside.

01:46:25.900 Like, by River Road, where, like, Uptown becomes Jefferson.

01:46:29.500 Oh, okay.

01:46:30.040 That's where I think it was.

01:46:30.880 Yeah.

01:46:31.080 I think so.

01:46:32.820 It might have been more into the Uptown area.

01:46:35.500 How's that Nick treating you?

01:46:37.660 It's pretty good.

01:46:38.520 You like the flavor?

01:46:39.880 They hit and miss, bro, but it's-

01:46:41.480 They hit and miss.

01:46:42.540 Sometimes you don't know of vapes if you're buying them, if they're getting them, if they're

01:46:45.380 remaking them bitches in the back.

01:46:46.460 Who-legged and shit?

01:46:47.140 Yeah, yeah.

01:46:48.200 That's why.

01:46:48.520 I don't know if you'll smell like a dude.

01:46:49.460 You'll just be like, it's just like the guy's breath at the counter.

01:46:52.200 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:46:52.920 You're like, this motherfucker just made it.

01:46:54.620 Yeah.

01:46:55.380 Australia was tough with the vapes.

01:46:57.720 Oh, yeah.

01:46:58.820 The first time we went, no, five years ago when we went, they only had 1% nicotine.

01:47:03.200 That was kind of a bitch.

01:47:04.240 Really?

01:47:04.840 Yeah, and then this last time-

01:47:06.300 I knew that five.

01:47:06.880 All the ones that we bought were all these crazy flavors, and we're, like, coughing up

01:47:09.980 all this shit.

01:47:10.500 I'm like, bro, these vapes are not okay.

01:47:12.240 That's why I like these.

01:47:13.440 Yeah.

01:47:13.680 They're reliable.

01:47:14.360 These are, this is super light.

01:47:15.500 I don't actually feel, like, out of commission or nothing.

01:47:17.740 Like, too heavy.

01:47:19.200 The early Esco bars, bro, was too much.

01:47:21.060 I was doing those on road one time.

01:47:22.160 You're like, you get sick, bro.

01:47:23.340 Oh, I was falling apart.

01:47:24.320 I couldn't sleep, bro.

01:47:25.360 I couldn't look at my mother.

01:47:27.520 Yeah, it was on Chapitula.

01:47:28.680 Yeah, this is a warehouse on Chapitula, so that's where it was.

01:47:33.120 But, yeah, that's my buddy Jesse made this documentary.

01:47:34.760 It's so crazy you said that place.

01:47:36.620 Yeah, where did you guys go watch some type of music?

01:47:38.960 Like, was there someplace, a venue that you guys went to when you were young?

01:47:41.700 What was your first show you went to?

01:47:42.500 You did that way more than I did.

01:47:43.800 I mean, the first show I ever went to was when I was nine.

01:47:45.880 My parents bought me NSYNC tickets.

01:47:47.500 That was the first.

01:47:48.220 It was, like, when I was a kid, but-

01:47:49.980 Man, you've changed that.

01:47:50.920 I've changed.

01:47:51.680 As far as, like-

01:47:52.760 My first one was Britney Spears.

01:47:54.160 Really?

01:47:54.500 Oh, my God, bro.

01:47:55.040 Look at that.

01:47:55.960 I think she's a Louisiana local.

01:47:57.460 Y'all changed, bro.

01:47:58.360 I know.

01:47:59.340 I'm going to say 100%.

01:48:00.640 Y'all changed.

01:48:01.140 My parents thought they snapped by getting me tickets to Britney.

01:48:05.360 Me and my dad went.

01:48:06.580 It was weird.

01:48:07.240 You and Senior went to Britney Spears?

01:48:09.640 Yeah, brother.

01:48:10.420 If you knew his dad, you'd be like, what the fuck?

01:48:12.780 I was, like, eight years old.

01:48:14.120 They thought they snapped, bro.

01:48:14.720 You probably hated every second of that.

01:48:15.920 Yeah, they thought they snapped.

01:48:17.340 And they did snap.

01:48:18.180 They did.

01:48:18.760 I did go to, like, shows when I was a teenager being in bands and stuff.

01:48:21.980 I lived in Fat City, so they had Cypress Hall right down the street from the police station

01:48:26.840 on Hesmer.

01:48:27.900 They had the Lions Home.

01:48:29.600 They used to do shows out by the Burger King on Division and Metairie.

01:48:33.260 They had a few.

01:48:34.600 New Orleans was good with the all-ages stuff.

01:48:36.340 They had, like, places for teenagers to go.

01:48:38.600 Me and my friends' bands would put on shows and play.

01:48:41.000 And, you know, 100 kids would show up just to have something to do.

01:48:44.060 And then they started, after Katrina, a lot of those places closed down.

01:48:47.760 And then it became, like, you know, mostly bars and House of Blues.

01:48:51.380 But there was a lot of, I was very involved in the music scene when I was younger down here.

01:48:56.540 The Hot Boys, yeah.

01:48:57.400 When the Hot Boys were running around, there was so much going on, bro.

01:48:59.700 New Orleans has always been a fun place, dude.

01:49:01.320 Oh, yeah.

01:49:01.760 I was more on the North Shore around that time.

01:49:05.080 That's when me and you didn't really speak.

01:49:06.740 And, yeah, it was throughout all the high school.

01:49:08.720 I mean, he and I, we didn't hate each other or anything.

01:49:10.400 We were just growing up separately at that point.

01:49:12.900 Yeah, yeah.

01:49:14.120 They had a band from the North Shore, Eight Candles or something?

01:49:18.400 No.

01:49:18.700 They had one that got really big.

01:49:20.320 12 Stones, yeah.

01:49:21.360 That's it.

01:49:22.160 The dude used to, like, babysit Kyle or some shit, the singer or whatever.

01:49:25.520 Something like that, right?

01:49:26.820 You grew up next door to that guy from 12 Stones, the singer?

01:49:31.060 Yeah, nice guy.

01:49:31.680 I went to high school.

01:49:32.940 What's his name?

01:49:33.980 Paul McCoy.

01:49:34.520 Let's look him up.

01:49:35.040 Bro, I heard a story about that guy that, you know, he's on that song,

01:49:38.880 the Evanescence song.

01:49:39.860 Yeah.

01:49:40.220 The Wake Me Up, that song.

01:49:41.720 Wake me up.

01:49:42.260 And I heard that they offered him a piece of the song, royalties,

01:49:45.340 or, like, just flat out 10 grand, and he took the 10 grand.

01:49:48.820 Wow.

01:49:49.700 60 grand?

01:49:50.580 Still, that song's made way more than 60 grand.

01:49:52.800 Yeah.

01:49:53.820 But he bought a Lexus, bro.

01:49:55.240 He bought a Lexus.

01:49:57.280 That's the thing, bro.

01:49:58.660 He bought a PT Cruiser.

01:50:00.240 Dude, my boy, Gabe Hall.

01:50:01.560 See if you can look up Gabe Hall Cemetery on YouTube.

01:50:06.400 It's Gabe Hall Cemetery Rapper.

01:50:11.860 He's still rapping now, or is this some old stuff?

01:50:14.540 This is some old shit, bro.

01:50:16.100 Cemetery Rapper.

01:50:19.180 Oh, dude, you're going to have to go deep for this.

01:50:21.020 Do you ever chill in the cemeteries in from Louisiana?

01:50:24.380 No.

01:50:25.820 No.

01:50:26.880 Is that more of, like, a New Orleans thing?

01:50:28.060 I think it is, bro.

01:50:28.900 Sometime at Halloween, people would go do stuff over there.

01:50:32.220 In our town, people would dig one up every now and then.

01:50:34.960 Really?

01:50:35.520 Yeah, this is him right here, bro.

01:50:36.840 My boy Curly Q.

01:50:37.660 He used to make these videos, bro.

01:50:38.980 Oh, let's go.

01:50:39.800 This is the real shit.

01:50:41.120 You love this.

01:50:46.200 Wow.

01:50:46.520 This is my doll right here, bro.

01:50:54.700 This is the kind of shit that makes me want to fucking lay on my back with no shirt on, bro.

01:50:59.720 Oh, let's go.

01:51:01.060 With the Misfit shirt.

01:51:09.120 Wow.

01:51:09.520 You just sat on that mausoleum like nobody's business.

01:51:22.000 He's sitting on somebody's chest.

01:51:23.780 Yeah, dude.

01:51:24.500 I want his confidence.

01:51:26.180 You know what I'm saying?

01:51:29.800 It's inspiring.

01:51:30.740 The arm movements.

01:51:37.420 Fucking right.

01:51:41.860 They're coming boy with the fucking doll.

01:51:43.480 Oh, he going crazy.

01:51:45.280 What the fuck?

01:51:47.600 Where is this?

01:51:48.200 Do you know?

01:51:49.020 He all on people's graves, bro.

01:51:50.740 He's going crazy.

01:51:51.360 That's North Louisiana, bro.

01:51:55.700 How do you know this, dude?

01:51:56.900 Why are Louisiana people so not self-aware?

01:51:59.040 That dog got me for that.

01:52:00.680 That's what I'm saying.

01:52:01.200 I wish I had this confidence.

01:52:02.320 Oh, me too, bro.

01:52:03.060 Look how he did.

01:52:03.700 Pull up the second one.

01:52:04.500 He's got another one where he's on the front porch.

01:52:05.940 It should be right next to him.

01:52:06.900 Look at him, dad, bro.

01:52:07.860 This is hard.

01:52:08.320 Yeah, he fucking goes hard with it.

01:52:09.600 Right there next to a game hall.

01:52:10.660 How do you know the dude?

01:52:11.820 Grew up with him, man.

01:52:12.860 Oh, no shit.

01:52:14.240 So you knew this dude?

01:52:14.860 Oh, yeah.

01:52:15.140 He had a trap house.

01:52:18.040 Fucking right.

01:52:22.180 Let's go, bro.

01:52:22.980 Every white person I know in Louisiana smokes cigarettes.

01:52:30.800 A hundred percent, bro.

01:52:31.880 They'll smoke them through their nose, bro.

01:52:33.800 If their mouth is missing.

01:52:34.940 This is part of the culture, bro.

01:52:36.200 They don't give a fuck, bro.

01:52:37.320 If your mouth's missing, people fucking smoke them through their nose, bro.

01:52:41.020 But, dude, the best is his girlfriend's filming this, and she keeps stepping on briars in the grass and yelling at him.

01:52:46.940 Nuh-uh.

01:52:47.620 Stepping on what?

01:52:48.600 Like little briars that are in the grass, little sticks.

01:52:50.740 Little sticklers.

01:52:51.420 Anyway, a shout-out to my boy, Gabe, man.

01:52:53.140 That shit was funny.

01:52:53.580 Shout-out Curly, too.

01:52:54.160 Yeah, shout-out.

01:52:54.260 I never thought about that, but it's crazy to see the things that people do to put their creativity out there.

01:52:58.600 I love it.

01:52:59.480 Everybody's got something, man.

01:53:01.560 That's some Louisiana shit, bro.

01:53:02.940 You're not going to see that in any other state.

01:53:04.760 That's some Louisiana shit.

01:53:05.860 You ain't.

01:53:06.660 He's the best, man.

01:53:07.800 Yeah, it's just a different kind of swag right there, bro.

01:53:10.820 Yeah, Gabe's a G.

01:53:12.520 Was there anything else in the news we wanted to look at?

01:53:14.560 I can't remember if anything else happened.

01:53:16.060 Have you ever seen the video of them testing the babes in China?

01:53:20.480 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:53:24.320 Yeah, but them Chinamen, bro, they got a different type of longs, bro.

01:53:27.880 Oh, yeah.

01:53:28.560 Ooh.

01:53:29.320 Okay.

01:53:30.120 Yeah.

01:53:32.820 Good thing I still smoke.

01:53:34.140 Somebody got to do it.

01:53:35.040 I'm glad I still smoke Juul Pods.

01:53:36.580 Fuck.

01:53:37.660 That's an Elfar factor.

01:53:38.660 I'll be honored to share their fucking DNA, brother.

01:53:40.900 I don't care.

01:53:41.620 They hard-working, bro.

01:53:42.720 Yeah.

01:53:43.780 Ooh, they hitting them a little too hard, though.

01:53:46.520 That dude.

01:53:47.200 That guy's going for it.

01:53:49.320 This little dude breastfeeding, bro.

01:53:51.340 Bro.

01:53:51.960 He's like a damn hummingbird.

01:53:52.800 Why do I say exposed on it?

01:53:54.420 Like, this is something bad.

01:53:55.440 Because they can't be doing that shit, bro.

01:53:58.800 Bro, what are you talking about, man?

01:54:01.900 This is fucking breastfeeding in Laplace, homie.

01:54:04.360 Yeah.

01:54:04.700 Ain't nothing, bro.

01:54:06.000 Yeah, bro.

01:54:07.600 Suicide boys, man.

01:54:08.740 I'm so excited, bro.

01:54:10.000 I'm so excited just to see.

01:54:11.700 And I think you guys are just such a place of inspiration for people, you know, even just

01:54:15.820 talking with you guys today to see you create your own world, you know, and that it doesn't

01:54:19.100 have to be something that mainstream accepts or even sometimes even sees, whether they do

01:54:24.140 see it or not, you know, but they don't claim to.

01:54:27.640 It's the same thing with podcasting, kind of like.

01:54:29.400 I'm sure.

01:54:29.740 I rarely have a reference podcast.

01:54:31.300 It's like, but that's because they're not involved in it.

01:54:34.820 It's not their shit and that's okay.

01:54:36.360 Yeah.

01:54:37.080 But you guys just have such a loyal fan base.

01:54:39.440 What are your fans like, do you think, man?

01:54:41.680 Because that's one of the things that's so intriguing about you guys to me is y'all's

01:54:45.640 fans are, it's just different, man.

01:54:48.960 We've actually, we've developed relationships with some of our biggest ones and actually

01:54:54.220 brought them in the fold to like help us out with certain stuff.

01:54:58.840 I mean, dude, when they, when they tell you, when they're like, dude, you saved my life,

01:55:05.740 you did this, you did that.

01:55:07.080 I mean, it's hard to hear a hundred percent, but the process, yeah, it wasn't, it wasn't

01:55:11.860 my intention, but at the same time, and this is, this might be more than like a spiritual

01:55:17.540 recovery tip ever since getting sober.

01:55:20.400 Um, I feel like I have this responsibility, um, to let these people know that have seen

01:55:31.080 us at our worst know that, cause I, I never thought there was a way out.

01:55:36.540 I really didn't.

01:55:37.580 I was like, I'm fucked.

01:55:38.680 This is it.

01:55:39.820 It's just what it is.

01:55:41.260 But to let them know that there is a way out.

01:55:44.480 And if, if, yeah, there's hope, uh, don't ever give up.

01:55:47.920 Like if me and him can do it, bro, we can get drugs delivered on speed dial in the mailbox.

01:55:52.200 But if me and him can do it, there's hope for them too.

01:55:55.140 Um, and we used to, we used to, when we could, after every show, we would take time out and

01:56:03.180 meet with all the fans afterwards.

01:56:04.960 We never liked charging them for meet and greets and stuff like that.

01:56:08.660 Like, Oh, someone got more money than this person.

01:56:10.620 So they get to meet us.

01:56:11.660 I know we didn't really like that.

01:56:13.340 But now, unfortunately it's, it's, it's gotten too big to where we, we can't do that.

01:56:18.560 It's hard sometimes.

01:56:19.140 It's true.

01:56:19.600 The venues won't let you stay.

01:56:20.940 Those are the things that happen.

01:56:22.080 We try to meet in the lobby of the shows.

01:56:23.820 But how do you look at it?

01:56:25.020 We've been doing this for a long time.

01:56:26.480 And when we're on tour, bro, it's not like it's, it's work, dude.

01:56:30.360 It's hard.

01:56:30.860 It's, it's, you gotta be on point every night.

01:56:33.680 You know, any little thing you can do, if you smoke a blunt afterwards, it could fuck

01:56:36.640 up your throat.

01:56:37.260 Like there's a lot of stuff that you got to keep in mind.

01:56:39.840 And sometimes dude, you know, not every show is good and not every day on tour is fun.

01:56:45.700 There's times where like we might be going through it and we have to take some time for ourselves

01:56:49.880 and sorry.

01:56:50.880 Like, I know it sucks that we can't meet you this particular night, but you know,

01:56:54.600 I need to like kind of, uh, decompress a little bit.

01:56:57.720 So, yeah.

01:56:58.560 You got to make sure the show is good for the next night.

01:57:00.400 I mean, that's the most important thing.

01:57:01.540 It's the most important.

01:57:02.320 Touring is hard.

01:57:02.860 It's hectic.

01:57:03.760 Um, and yeah, you, people don't realize you want to be as good as you can be for the show

01:57:08.240 you just did.

01:57:08.940 You know, but now we, dude, we, we, we love and care about them.

01:57:14.240 Um, and even if some of them are still using you, there's no, no, but not at all.

01:57:18.080 Because you know why we get it.

01:57:19.960 Right.

01:57:20.360 I get it, bro.

01:57:21.080 Like I get it, dog.

01:57:22.440 Um, and some, most, a lot of people can, can party and they can do it.

01:57:26.140 I tell them that like whenever I, I talk to everybody at the end of the night, I feel

01:57:31.000 like it's important to say that.

01:57:32.280 Like, you know what I'm saying?

01:57:33.180 Like if none of this applies to you, like keep doing what you're doing.

01:57:36.880 Fuck if you can have a good time and do and right.

01:57:39.040 Like my hat's off to you, bro.

01:57:40.940 You win.

01:57:41.760 Yeah.

01:57:42.180 You got, you got it, dog.

01:57:43.900 You got it.

01:57:45.080 But you know, um, I don't know.

01:57:47.940 We've that speech that started at the end real quick.

01:57:51.720 That started from me.

01:57:53.320 It was, we just got back to doing shows.

01:57:55.900 We were at Lollapalooza right after COVID.

01:57:58.740 Um, I was feeling all self pity.

01:58:02.280 And feeling bad for myself and all this.

01:58:05.020 So I, I, I was, I was given this sappy, like, or pity me at the end of the, at the end

01:58:11.900 of the show that we did at Lollapalooza, but it just somehow it turned into something

01:58:16.720 else.

01:58:17.200 Yeah.

01:58:18.100 And into what it is.

01:58:20.040 And I mean, dude, one of the guys that works for us, uh, he like helps us run our social

01:58:23.680 media accounts and he works with us on tour doing merch.

01:58:26.960 You know, we met this kid as a fan.

01:58:29.140 It's our boy six.

01:58:30.060 Yeah.

01:58:30.360 We met him as a fan cause he created the G at G five, nine records, Twitter.

01:58:34.480 And this was so early that Scott and I hadn't even gotten around to making our own fucking

01:58:37.820 Twitter.

01:58:38.320 We had fans.

01:58:39.340 Yeah.

01:58:39.540 Like we had like a few thousand fans, whatever, but he was super in tuned with underground

01:58:43.340 music and he knew about us and loved us.

01:58:45.980 And we messaged him being like, yo, can we have that account?

01:58:48.400 Like what?

01:58:49.540 You know, it's, it's our name.

01:58:51.080 He's like, yeah, I was just making it.

01:58:52.680 So nobody else would, you can have it.

01:58:54.000 And we're like, okay, cool.

01:58:54.740 And then a few months later, we're actually going to do a little Texas tour doing Houston,

01:58:59.300 Dallas, a few shows and he's there and he's in Dallas.

01:59:01.620 And he was like, we're like, dude, come meet up with us, whatever.

01:59:04.400 He also could get us drugs, some Percocet, some Xanax and weed, whatever.

01:59:08.220 And we met him and we realized we liked this kid.

01:59:10.920 And we're like, you know what?

01:59:11.640 You took the initiative.

01:59:12.440 That's yours.

01:59:13.620 And that's how he became the guy who like runs our social media is through that.

01:59:17.940 Yeah.

01:59:18.080 And that was, you know, back in 2014, 2015.

01:59:20.480 Yeah.

01:59:21.020 And like to answer your question, that was a fan who is now part of our team.

01:59:24.920 Yeah.

01:59:25.220 I lived with him for two years.

01:59:26.340 Like he's like a family member.

01:59:27.560 Oh, damn.

01:59:27.940 Yeah.

01:59:28.320 Yeah, man.

01:59:28.820 Well, that's how I met Nick, one of our early producers.

01:59:31.400 He emailed and just said, hey man, I like the podcast and, and I think I can help.

01:59:36.720 You know, that's how there's this kid named Aiden.

01:59:39.100 And he showed up at a show in Buffalo, right?

01:59:41.240 And shook my hand in the parking lot.

01:59:43.960 Yeah.

01:59:44.520 And, um, he's like, hey, I can be your photographer tonight.

01:59:48.140 And I was like, all right, we have a photographer.

01:59:50.660 Yeah.

01:59:51.020 So come on in, bro.

01:59:51.800 So fast forward, the show starts.

01:59:53.280 I'm out there an hour later.

01:59:54.240 I see this dude just walking up by the side of the stage, bro, with his cell phone.

02:00:00.660 Let's go.

02:00:01.580 What the fuck, dude?

02:00:02.940 So the whole time, bro, he got fucking just, he's like laying on his back and shit on the floor.

02:00:07.660 So just unbelievable, dude.

02:00:10.860 I respect the initiative.

02:00:12.000 Oh, he finessed me so much, man.

02:00:13.620 But fast forward two years later, he's at the show with his family.

02:00:17.400 He's got cameras now and he's a real photographer.

02:00:19.860 No shit.

02:00:20.340 Oh yeah, bro.

02:00:20.860 And so it's just like, um.

02:00:22.480 Hey, at least he was fucking grinding with what he had.

02:00:24.940 You know what I'm saying?

02:00:25.420 A hundred percent, bro.

02:00:26.240 And he just kind of caught you at the right time.

02:00:27.640 I was walking in, coming up the little tour bus and it was just like, you know, hey, what's

02:00:33.100 up, man?

02:00:33.400 I can be your photographer.

02:00:34.520 And you kind of respect, you know, sometimes things got to catch you in the right moment.

02:00:37.160 But yeah, somebody that can see your Twitter and see that you have a capability before

02:00:41.020 you can even see it sometimes.

02:00:43.200 It's crazy, man.

02:00:44.420 The equipment doesn't give you drive or talent.

02:00:47.060 Dude, all of our videos were iPhone.

02:00:48.820 Shot with an iPhone and I just edited it on Final Cut.

02:00:51.560 He was using GarageBand to make the beats, you know.

02:00:54.080 A free program that comes with Mac.

02:00:56.220 I downloaded Photoshop.

02:00:57.440 Photoshop, I illegally, I illegally pirated Photoshop and cracked it.

02:01:01.660 And the only languages available for Photoshop were Spanish and Hebrew.

02:01:06.220 And I chose Spanish because I took Spanish in high school.

02:01:08.960 So I learned Photoshop all in Spanish, just like figuring it the fuck out.

02:01:13.880 So I didn't shell out all this money.

02:01:15.900 I learned it myself because if you have the drive, you have the talent, the equipment does

02:01:19.640 not matter.

02:01:19.980 We got gold and platinum records that were done on that free platform that comes when

02:01:26.140 you buy a Mac.

02:01:26.980 That's the whole reason I bought it was because it was free.

02:01:29.440 It's one of our biggest songs are royalty-free samples.

02:01:31.780 Yeah.

02:01:32.200 That anybody has access to.

02:01:33.420 Yeah.

02:01:33.920 Yeah.

02:01:34.400 Yeah.

02:01:35.580 It really is, man.

02:01:36.880 It's inspiring, dude.

02:01:37.660 I feel so lucky to have gotten to do this today, man.

02:01:40.200 Same, dude.

02:01:40.780 Same.

02:01:41.080 I'm glad that we've, you know, we met.

02:01:43.700 I remember when you showed up at the, I hope, I hope I'm not, yeah, you're pretty open.

02:01:48.680 At the 12-step meeting, yo.

02:01:49.180 Yeah.

02:01:49.280 Oh, yeah, it was cool, man.

02:01:50.540 And when you showed up and I, you know, I was, I know how that is and I didn't, I didn't

02:01:55.280 want to go up to you.

02:01:56.500 You know what I'm saying?

02:01:57.420 Because I know what it's like to be in the meeting and like just kind of sacred.

02:02:00.640 Not be anonymous.

02:02:01.300 Well, I saw him, I was like, this guy's not doing well.

02:02:05.460 This dude, we lucky to have this dude with us.

02:02:09.120 That's what I remember thinking.

02:02:10.740 So we didn't talk that night.

02:02:12.620 And then when I left, I sent him a message on Instagram.

02:02:15.720 And he called me.

02:02:16.320 He's like, bro, you know, he's in my fucking meeting.

02:02:17.640 He was stoked.

02:02:18.200 I was stoked, too, that he met you.

02:02:19.400 Yeah.

02:02:20.000 That's cool, man.

02:02:20.640 Yeah, I think I met Cheddar first.

02:02:22.660 Did you?

02:02:23.200 Yeah.

02:02:24.600 I think I did.

02:02:25.340 I don't remember how, but he's just been such a great guy to get to know, man.

02:02:29.380 And yeah, dude, it's inspiring, man.

02:02:31.500 I'm glad, you know, you keep people alive.

02:02:33.140 And I know you have, you know, guys that you support in those rooms.

02:02:36.420 It ain't me, bro.

02:02:37.420 I wish I could take the credit.

02:02:38.720 Yeah.

02:02:39.100 You know what I'm saying.

02:02:39.940 Yeah, I'm glad we got a higher power that's trying to help.

02:02:44.800 That's helping us help ourselves.

02:02:46.680 Yeah.

02:02:48.480 From flooring to ceiling, bro.

02:02:51.220 From flooring to who knows what heights, man.

02:02:53.500 Thank you guys so much just for the inspiration, man.

02:02:55.320 I think to so many young artists and people that if you're sitting somewhere thinking,

02:02:58.540 can I do this or how do I do this?

02:03:01.140 I mean, you know, it's unreal.

02:03:04.020 Just do it.

02:03:05.260 Yeah.

02:03:05.840 It's unreal.

02:03:06.160 That's literally it.

02:03:06.960 Just fucking do it.

02:03:08.620 That's the advice I always give is, you know, how did you, what did you do to get here?

02:03:12.300 Persistence.

02:03:12.660 Whatever, persistence, consistency, fucking drive, dude.

02:03:16.460 And just taking that first step is the biggest step.

02:03:19.540 Yeah.

02:03:19.740 Because you know what?

02:03:20.600 You may think you want to be a fucking rapper or whatever, but you might actually go to do it and realize, I don't want to do this.

02:03:25.520 This sucks.

02:03:26.180 Yeah.

02:03:26.380 And you're not going to know unless you take that first step.

02:03:28.620 Right.

02:03:28.860 And then I'll lead you to the next thing.

02:03:30.520 That's the deal.

02:03:30.940 Exactly.

02:03:31.500 Exactly.

02:03:31.740 You might miss the next thing because you don't go to the first thing.

02:03:33.960 Exactly.

02:03:34.960 And it's all timing.

02:03:36.540 It's all chess game.

02:03:37.800 Just don't overthink it.

02:03:38.720 Just do the damn thing and everything will start to fall in place at some point if it's supposed to.

02:03:42.080 Yeah.

02:03:42.700 The new album?

02:03:44.260 New World Depression.

02:03:44.960 New World Depression.

02:03:45.520 June 14th, baby.

02:03:46.620 Yeah.

02:03:47.860 Drag them to the river.

02:03:49.000 I'm excited.

02:03:49.820 Put your body in, check y'all.

02:03:52.040 Fuck yeah.

02:03:52.920 What was that song?

02:03:53.720 I can't.

02:03:54.700 Put your rope around the neck.

02:03:56.180 He's a badass.

02:03:56.980 That's the other boy.

02:03:58.400 Oh, you don't want to sound.

02:03:59.600 Oh, man.

02:04:01.900 Who?

02:04:03.060 UNLV.

02:04:03.580 I'm from now.

02:04:04.180 UNLV.

02:04:04.620 Yeah, I couldn't think of it.

02:04:05.640 Where were they from?

02:04:06.740 Here.

02:04:07.220 They're from Uptown, I think.

02:04:08.320 Were they from here?

02:04:09.260 Yeah, they're from New Orleans, for sure.

02:04:10.600 We sampled them on the album.

02:04:12.300 It was Uptown.

02:04:13.000 Driving to the River.

02:04:13.620 Driving to the River.

02:04:14.520 Y'all did?

02:04:14.980 Yeah, I can't wait.

02:04:15.700 You're going to love it.

02:04:17.760 Dude, that's exciting, man.

02:04:20.040 Ruby Scrim, thank you guys so much, man.

02:04:22.000 Best of luck on tour.

02:04:23.620 And shout out Tyrell Shaw for this beautiful art, man, for letting us sit in the back here.

02:04:27.500 That might be Louis Armstrong, man.

02:04:29.040 I don't know.

02:04:29.460 It's a saxophone, so it might not be, but it's a jazz play.

02:04:31.720 Either way.

02:04:32.700 Either way.

02:04:33.220 He's got a studio right over here on, I think this is Child Petula.

02:04:37.640 Carondelet?

02:04:38.460 On Carondelet, yeah.

02:04:39.740 So here we are.

02:04:40.920 Suicide Boys.

02:04:41.780 Thanks.

02:04:42.000 Oh, yeah.

02:04:43.620 Gang.

02:04:43.940 Thanks, sir.

02:04:44.680 Now I'm just floating on the breeze, and I feel I'm falling like these leaves.

02:04:50.920 I must be cornerstone.

02:04:56.040 Oh, but when I reach that ground, I'll share this peace of mind I found.

02:05:01.540 And I can feel it in my bones, but it's gonna take...

02:05:08.540 It'sすごい.

02:05:09.260 No滞 nowhere, no place.

02:05:11.560 So here's in my bones.

02:05:11.940 So here's where I have and're in.

02:05:13.060 So here's where I can feel what is.

02:05:13.320 I don't feel so good.

02:05:14.760 I'll do that.

02:05:15.240 I'm just gonna feel it in theapping notes.

02:05:17.340 I'm just gonna...

02:05:18.240 I just wanna be out.

02:05:18.940 I love it.

02:05:19.600 I appreciate it.

This Past Weekend with Theo Von - June 17, 2024

E511 $uicideboy$

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