This Past Weekend with Theo Von - E512 Ed Sheeran

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00:01:24.620 Today's guest is one of the biggest musicians in the world.

00:01:28.220 He's won all the awards.

00:01:30.300 He's set attendance records everywhere.

00:01:32.780 He's celebrating the 10th anniversary of his album Multiply.

00:01:37.200 We get to catch up right here in London in his bar, Birdie Blossoms.

00:01:42.820 And I'm grateful for his time.

00:01:44.920 Today's guest is Mr. Ed Sheeran.

00:01:48.300 Shine that light on me

00:01:52.640 I'll sit and tell you my stories

00:01:58.360 Shine on me

00:02:03.360 And I will find a song

00:02:07.560 Who's been your least favorite guest?

00:02:18.480 Least favorite?

00:02:19.620 Oh, this guy.

00:02:21.520 He was like a money guy.

00:02:23.640 Oh, Wolf of Wall Street.

00:02:25.120 Oh, yeah.

00:02:26.660 Jordan Belfort.

00:02:27.600 Jordan Belfort, yeah.

00:02:28.700 I just didn't like his inner, like, I don't know.

00:02:31.820 He seemed like a con artist.

00:02:33.860 And he wouldn't kind of say yes.

00:02:35.500 It was like...

00:02:36.440 You watched the movie though, right?

00:02:37.560 Yeah.

00:02:38.540 He seemed like a cool con artist.

00:02:42.880 Like, certainly one of the better...

00:02:44.320 You're right.

00:02:44.760 That's a good point.

00:02:45.780 I guess he's kind of like Jesse James, maybe, in a way.

00:02:48.400 Like, one of those wild guys.

00:02:49.740 Yeah.

00:02:50.400 So what are you doing in London other than shows?

00:02:54.300 That's it, man.

00:02:55.660 Yeah.

00:02:56.000 Just came over to you guys' country to do shows, man.

00:02:58.600 I love that you flew from Manchester.

00:03:01.080 Oh, yeah.

00:03:01.400 That's like...

00:03:02.000 Because there's a train from central Manchester into central London.

00:03:04.740 So you would have driven out of central Manchester,

00:03:07.580 flown to out of central London, and then got it.

00:03:10.000 It's such a long trip.

00:03:11.240 Could have just taken an hour and a half train.

00:03:12.840 Really?

00:03:13.340 Yeah. 1.00

00:03:13.700 Oh, damn. 0.99

00:03:14.280 I didn't even know that. 1.00

00:03:15.060 I know.

00:03:16.120 Life hacks.

00:03:17.480 Yeah, that's it.

00:03:18.220 Yeah.

00:03:18.520 I didn't... 1.00

00:03:19.040 Damn. 0.99

00:03:20.040 I probably would have been faster. 1.00

00:03:21.740 Way faster.

00:03:22.540 Yeah.

00:03:22.760 Way, way, way faster.

00:03:24.880 Yeah.

00:03:25.140 I mean, yeah, I'm actually genuinely feeling bad about that right now.

00:03:29.020 No, it's all right.

00:03:29.780 It's all right.

00:03:30.180 Planet's in crisis.

00:03:31.180 Is it?

00:03:31.560 More flights.

00:03:32.540 Yeah, yeah.

00:03:33.760 That's true.

00:03:34.320 We'll do it that way.

00:03:36.980 Good to see you today, Ed.

00:03:38.820 Nice to be here.

00:03:39.300 Nice to see you, man.

00:03:40.060 Nice to be...

00:03:40.580 Thanks for coming here as well.

00:03:41.760 Thanks for making the effort to come here.

00:03:43.780 You're welcome.

00:03:44.300 This is Bertie Bottoms.

00:03:48.320 Yeah, exactly.

00:03:49.980 Yeah, yeah.

00:03:50.320 Bertie Bottoms.

00:03:51.040 Bertie Bottoms.

00:03:52.120 And how do you know if the bottoms are Bertie or not?

00:03:55.980 So it's Blossoms.

00:03:57.280 It's basically...

00:03:58.080 Oh, sorry.

00:03:58.520 I'm very sorry.

00:03:59.220 My manager's wife is called Liberty. 1.00

00:04:01.260 My wife is called Cherry. 0.99

00:04:02.660 And me and my manager set this bar up and Blossom for Cherry, Bertie for Liberty, Bertie

00:04:07.380 Blossoms.

00:04:07.920 Oh, I love it.

00:04:08.640 Yeah.

00:04:09.120 Gives us an excuse to come drink here.

00:04:10.780 Oh, yeah.

00:04:11.420 I bet.

00:04:11.660 Um, dude, and but sometimes like...

00:04:15.400 So is this a place where people can meet their wife at? 1.00

00:04:17.620 Is that the kind of thing that we're...

00:04:19.720 Yeah.

00:04:20.760 Yeah.

00:04:21.060 Or, you know, husband.

00:04:22.860 Oh, yeah.

00:04:23.200 Or husband, yeah.

00:04:23.720 But do you have like a wife-husband meeting night?

00:04:25.620 Like a night where it's like, hey, this is the...

00:04:27.520 Like Tuesdays.

00:04:28.800 It's like spout.

00:04:30.460 All you can spout. 0.97

00:04:31.580 Yeah, they come in and they chuck the keys in and then it's just a massive orgy. 0.92

00:04:34.960 Well, that's...

00:04:36.080 I mean, that went a little far.

00:04:37.200 But yeah, I was just thinking like, yeah, do they at least just get to meet somebody?

00:04:41.660 Do you know what?

00:04:42.780 I...

00:04:43.180 I...

00:04:43.740 When I come here, I come in this...

00:04:45.160 Is this back room and that's kind of it.

00:04:48.380 Yeah.

00:04:48.520 I don't really...

00:04:49.080 I don't really know.

00:04:49.760 Maybe.

00:04:50.220 Yeah.

00:04:50.600 Maybe.

00:04:50.940 You never know.

00:04:51.560 Just kind of relax.

00:04:52.460 Yeah.

00:04:52.880 This is where like, if I'm having like a dinner or a meeting with someone, it will usually

00:04:57.040 be back here.

00:04:58.200 You can sort of like drink what you want, smoke, stay as long as you want.

00:05:01.980 It's...

00:05:02.260 It's...

00:05:02.560 It's cool.

00:05:03.180 At Bertie Blossoms.

00:05:04.080 Yeah.

00:05:04.220 At Bertie Blossoms.

00:05:05.020 Yeah.

00:05:05.180 Yeah.

00:05:05.380 Sorry, I got it wrong, man.

00:05:07.100 Is that right?

00:05:07.500 It's been a layout.

00:05:08.400 Some of the exchange rate on the language has been tough.

00:05:10.960 Yeah.

00:05:11.520 I liked that when I arrived, you kept calling me like, cheers, mate.

00:05:14.500 Nice, mate.

00:05:15.120 Oh, yeah.

00:05:15.420 I liked it.

00:05:15.640 Yeah.

00:05:15.880 It's good.

00:05:16.360 Yeah.

00:05:16.500 I've been trying to get with it, man.

00:05:17.820 I...

00:05:18.460 I lived in Nashville for a couple of years and I got the, I got the, the, the drool, I think.

00:05:23.460 Yeah.

00:05:23.780 Being there.

00:05:24.200 Yeah.

00:05:25.000 I owned a cowboy hat.

00:05:26.260 Oh, wow.

00:05:26.800 I had a camouflage hoodie as well.

00:05:29.960 So, yeah, you really, did you guys hunt anything?

00:05:33.400 Do you know, I, so I lived on a lake for the first year and I bought a fishing rod from

00:05:38.620 Walmart because I was like, I'm going to go fishing.

00:05:40.320 I'd never been fishing before.

00:05:41.540 And I sat, I threw it in.

00:05:42.980 And then after about an hour, my mate came up and was like, have you put bait on it?

00:05:46.160 And I was like, I didn't know you were going to do that.

00:05:49.040 So I just sat with a fishing rod.

00:05:51.140 Really?

00:05:51.700 In the lake.

00:05:52.260 Yeah.

00:05:52.620 Oh, like pantomime fishing.

00:05:53.980 I just assumed a fish would like swim past and catch the hook.

00:05:57.240 I don't know.

00:05:58.360 I'd never fished before.

00:05:59.500 You know, it wasn't, it wasn't something that I'd grown up doing.

00:06:01.380 You got to have that.

00:06:02.440 You got to put something on there.

00:06:05.280 I know that now.

00:06:06.440 Yeah.

00:06:06.780 I know that now.

00:06:07.540 Wow.

00:06:07.940 I've never heard of anybody doing that.

00:06:10.020 Would you?

00:06:10.440 Maybe a child or something or a blind fella. 1.00

00:06:12.680 Well, I feel like in some ways I am quite, I feel like you, your age freezes the age

00:06:19.940 that you become famous, I think.

00:06:21.660 So I think in some ways I am still a teenager.

00:06:23.660 Yeah.

00:06:24.220 Yeah.

00:06:24.600 Oh, that's interesting.

00:06:25.780 Yeah.

00:06:25.940 I think it's like, and I think some creative people just grow, they kind of grow up slow.

00:06:30.820 I feel like in a way.

00:06:32.000 Well, you sort of don't have the same, I don't know, brutal life lessons, I guess.

00:06:40.500 When I was like, I moved to London when I was like 17 and you, I was having regular brutal

00:06:45.380 life lessons of just like, no, this is what the real world is.

00:06:47.920 And then I think when you, you know, started doing well about 20, about 1920.

00:06:54.500 And then, uh, you, you sort of like, if you make a mistake, it's, it's kind of all right.

00:07:01.500 You know, you're not, you don't have like the brutal real life lesson, I guess.

00:07:05.180 What do you mean like when you're doing, when life is, when you have like a success and stuff

00:07:09.420 going on, is that what you mean kind of?

00:07:10.680 Well, yeah, I, I mean, you will know this with, with, uh, comedy, like a brutal life

00:07:14.640 lesson of like, it's not going to be easy as bombing or playing to an empty room or blah,

00:07:19.300 blah, blah, blah.

00:07:19.660 That kind of stops happening when you have success.

00:07:22.120 There's definitely, you have peaks and troughs in your career where people are more interested

00:07:26.620 or less interested, but you don't have the, like, I don't know.

00:07:31.500 I don't think you have as many, um, normal life lessons.

00:07:35.080 You still get quite abnormal life lessons, I think, because in the sort of celebrity sphere,

00:07:40.280 it can be quite abnormal, but you don't have the, like, I don't know, regular stuff.

00:07:46.120 Yeah.

00:07:46.480 Does that make sense?

00:07:47.200 Yeah, I think it does, dude.

00:07:48.220 I don't, I am the worst person to ask if something makes sense or not, to be honest.

00:07:52.820 But yeah, uh, yeah.

00:07:53.780 Every time people ask.

00:07:54.840 My mates are so excited that I'm doing this today, by the way.

00:07:57.060 Who is?

00:07:57.620 All of my friends.

00:07:58.460 Oh, really?

00:07:59.380 Yeah.

00:07:59.540 The guy that, um, there's a guy living at our, at our house at the moment.

00:08:03.520 And, uh, he was like trying to get off work to just come down and just say hi.

00:08:07.260 Oh, and just mill around?

00:08:08.900 Like a loitering, they call it.

00:08:10.260 Yeah, yeah.

00:08:10.660 I think you guys, loitering must be a British thing, huh?

00:08:13.080 Because we wouldn't say that, loitering.

00:08:14.860 What would you say?

00:08:15.800 We'd be like, oh yeah, stalking.

00:08:17.660 Yeah.

00:08:17.960 Well, stalking is more like once you've loitered and you see something in the window, you know? 0.98

00:08:22.260 You see something, you see a bit of tits in the distance or something. 1.00

00:08:26.420 Yeah. 0.98

00:08:27.020 But yeah, that's stalking.

00:08:28.400 Yeah, yeah.

00:08:28.840 And then it's breaking and entering, you know?

00:08:30.880 And then it's marriage, usually.

00:08:32.720 If you have a way with words, I think.

00:08:37.720 But yeah, I think-

00:08:39.200 Are you married?

00:08:40.660 Loitering sounds very British.

00:08:42.080 No, no, I'm not married.

00:08:44.280 I would like to be kind of-

00:08:45.860 I guess you have to loiter more for that to happen.

00:08:47.640 Yeah, I need a bit more loitering.

00:08:48.780 Yeah, I need to bring the binoculars, you know?

00:08:50.880 Maybe bring a Red Bull.

00:08:52.260 That's the loitering you got to really be aware of.

00:08:54.720 The Red Bull loitering.

00:08:56.120 Just standing there with a red bull.

00:08:57.760 Small sips.

00:08:58.700 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:08:59.600 Small sips.

00:09:00.680 I haven't had Red Bull in years, man.

00:09:02.720 Oh, probably good for you.

00:09:04.320 Yeah.

00:09:05.420 Yeah, there was a time when I was doing, like, loads and loads of, like, breakfast TVs and radios and stuff like that.

00:09:10.440 It used to be those massive monster drinks.

00:09:12.120 When you were touring, like, to get your singles out there and stuff like that?

00:09:14.520 You used to kind of, like, have to turn up at, like, 3.30 a.m. to a German weather program to play 30 seconds of your new singles.

00:09:22.540 So, like, those stages, yeah.

00:09:24.300 Chance of rain, but chance of Ed Sheeran first.

00:09:27.540 I remember so clearly playing.

00:09:29.560 I got up at, like, they were doing it in some, like, theme park in the middle of Germany.

00:09:33.560 And it was just obviously empty because it was, like, 4 a.m.

00:09:37.200 Yeah, they love their theme parks there.

00:09:38.020 And I start playing on this thing, on this weather program.

00:09:41.080 And then I can see the credits rolling underneath me, like, 10 seconds in. 0.98

00:09:44.620 And I'm like, am I the fucking play out music? 0.96

00:09:47.280 And then they just stopped it. 0.98

00:09:48.280 So, I played 10 seconds of my new single, basically.

00:09:50.300 Oh.

00:09:50.700 Yeah.

00:09:51.460 God, love it.

00:09:52.000 Germany was a tough market for me for a while.

00:09:54.900 And then the egg was cracked.

00:09:57.080 And now we're good.

00:09:58.240 You'd think they'd take a look at you and be like, oh, he could be one of us, you know?

00:10:02.260 I feel like you look like a closet German. 1.00

00:10:06.060 Is that fair to say to somebody?

00:10:07.260 I don't even know.

00:10:07.840 I'm just loitering.

00:10:08.280 No, I think, well, the red hair is more Celtic.

00:10:11.500 So, I'd say either Scottish or Irish.

00:10:13.500 Or, like, the Norwegians, I think, would look at me and be like, you're one of us.

00:10:18.560 There's some Viking.

00:10:19.440 You've got a bit of Viking in you.

00:10:20.440 We'll take them.

00:10:21.220 Yeah.

00:10:21.520 Yeah, I might have a little bit.

00:10:22.860 Like, you'll see me in, like, the frozen food area, kind of, like, in the store, you know?

00:10:27.580 Yeah.

00:10:27.980 I'll mill about in there, you know?

00:10:29.640 Loiter.

00:10:31.080 You know?

00:10:32.220 What's your background heritage?

00:10:34.840 Have you got European?

00:10:35.420 I'm Polish.

00:10:36.140 Yeah, Nicaraguan.

00:10:36.900 Right, cool.

00:10:37.500 My dad was from Nicaragua.

00:10:39.800 His parents met down there, and he was born there.

00:10:42.560 And then my mother, I don't know, dude, but wherever she's from, they have some real one-of-a-kind type ladies. 1.00

00:10:50.720 Do you have rage in you?

00:10:51.860 Are you an angry guy?

00:10:53.100 You seem a very chill guy.

00:10:54.380 Can you have an argument with someone?

00:10:56.500 Yeah, I don't know if I have an argument.

00:10:58.400 I, like, have kind of trouble processing my feelings, so I'm like that.

00:11:02.220 I'm always, like, the start and stop with, you know, I'm like the guy who, like, can't get, like,

00:11:06.100 the gear shift to work or something.

00:11:08.080 You're watching that guy drive.

00:11:09.280 You know, I'm like a student driver.

00:11:10.480 Yeah, yeah.

00:11:10.900 When it comes to my feelings.

00:11:11.860 Do they have student drivers here?

00:11:14.040 Yeah, yeah.

00:11:14.760 I didn't learn to drive until I was 24.

00:11:17.640 Because, like, as I said with the train thing, public transport here is actually really, really good.

00:11:21.380 So I never learned to drive.

00:11:23.660 And then, mate, on my first driving test, so I'd learned, I learned to drive for, like, eight months.

00:11:30.180 And on the first test, I failed because I was going around a roundabout.

00:11:34.560 And my mom called me to see if I passed the test.

00:11:37.760 And I just quickly took it and, like, canceled the call.

00:11:40.420 And then the driving instructor was just like, you've just failed the test for that.

00:11:43.820 And she was ringing to see if I'd passed.

00:11:46.380 And well, yeah, I failed.

00:11:49.240 God, dude, that's when you got to just, yeah, that's kind of the time I'm glad my mom didn't care that much.

00:11:54.380 Yeah.

00:11:55.100 You know, because, yeah, I passed immediately.

00:11:56.540 But you probably, but Americans can drive from, like, 16, right?

00:11:59.280 But they shouldn't all be allowed to drive. 0.97

00:12:01.260 I do think American drivers, man, like, when I'm over there, I'm like, this is fucking sketchy. 1.00

00:12:07.060 They drive to kill. 1.00

00:12:08.400 Yeah.

00:12:08.780 They drive to kill.

00:12:09.280 I sort of feel like here we have to learn how to, like, parallel park and do all these other things.

00:12:13.300 I think in America it's like, can you reverse?

00:12:15.320 Good.

00:12:15.880 Yeah.

00:12:16.380 Past.

00:12:17.380 Well, it's, I think people are, America, just anything can be a weapon there.

00:12:22.700 You know, it's like.

00:12:23.900 So what have you got hidden under your bed?

00:12:25.580 What's your weapon?

00:12:26.400 Oh.

00:12:26.960 Weapon of choice.

00:12:27.920 I've probably a couple knives.

00:12:29.600 A lot of my kitchen knives are in my room.

00:12:31.300 Cool.

00:12:32.060 Kind of strategically placed or whatever.

00:12:34.400 You know, like, oh, I'll be here.

00:12:35.600 I need a knife.

00:12:36.300 And you have kids.

00:12:37.560 No kids.

00:12:38.040 So they're not, like, reaching under the bed and finding a huge.

00:12:40.100 No, no, no.

00:12:40.840 And I go small blade, kind of.

00:12:42.920 You know, I'm more of a, you know.

00:12:44.360 I think I'd be more terrified of you with a kitchen blade than.

00:12:47.840 Yeah.

00:12:47.920 I'm more of a chef than like a hatchet guy.

00:12:50.100 You know, I'm more like a, I'll Julianne a burglar.

00:12:52.280 But have you got a meat cleaver in the bedroom?

00:12:55.060 That would be terrifying. 0.96

00:12:56.060 Seeing you running down a corridor fully naked with a meat cleaver. 0.95

00:12:59.720 Yeah, dude.

00:13:01.440 Especially, yeah, if somebody thinks they want.

00:13:03.380 If somebody orders a small sausage, dude.

00:13:05.760 Because I'll freaking cut one up right there, dude.

00:13:08.160 It'll be out of business in a moment. 0.91

00:13:10.240 If you had a home invasion and you had a meat cleaver in there,

00:13:13.080 that would be far more terrifying.

00:13:15.040 Oh, I would yell I have a meat cleaver.

00:13:16.820 That's the first thing I would yell at them.

00:13:18.020 I think that would be something else.

00:13:24.040 Dude, what was something I was going to tell you?

00:13:25.560 Oh, what was I thinking?

00:13:26.720 Yeah, dude, I don't know a ton.

00:13:28.320 I know some British music.

00:13:29.840 We've had a nice time over here.

00:13:31.700 We went to Ireland.

00:13:33.820 Not Britain, though.

00:13:34.960 And not, that's not Britain.

00:13:36.240 No.

00:13:36.680 And if you make that mistake in Ireland, they will boo you.

00:13:39.220 They don't, yeah.

00:13:39.960 If you say.

00:13:40.760 If you say it's good to be back in the UK, you will get booed there. 1.00

00:13:43.200 But if you say, fuck England, they will cheer. 1.00

00:13:45.520 Yeah, I will. 1.00

00:13:46.820 Actually, if you say that in Wales, Scotland and Ireland.

00:13:49.900 They'll cheer.

00:13:50.500 Yeah.

00:13:50.780 Yeah.

00:13:51.240 Yeah.

00:13:51.500 Yeah.

00:13:51.760 Especially now, like Scotland now in the Euros.

00:13:54.980 So I played the Euros launch, whatever, on Wednesday.

00:13:58.480 I was in Germany and it's a football.

00:13:59.960 The Euros launch.

00:14:00.680 What is the football game?

00:14:01.380 Football's, yeah.

00:14:01.980 Okay, soccer.

00:14:02.680 Football's.

00:14:03.480 And I made the decision to wear an England shirt on stage in Germany.

00:14:08.480 And it was mostly German and Scottish fans because that's the first game.

00:14:11.540 Didn't go down hugely well.

00:14:13.080 Yeah, people.

00:14:13.700 But then I was like, I'm not going to wear a German shirt.

00:14:15.800 Right, because that's posing.

00:14:17.320 Yeah.

00:14:18.020 It's imposter. 0.72

00:14:18.300 I got given like five German shirts before the show as well to like take pictures with

00:14:22.320 and blah, blah, blah.

00:14:22.880 And I was like, I'm just not going to wear these.

00:14:24.760 Yeah.

00:14:25.120 Yeah.

00:14:25.480 Yeah.

00:14:25.760 People get so competitive about that kind of stuff, man.

00:14:28.780 Who's your football team?

00:14:31.680 Like who's, who are you supporting in the Euros?

00:14:33.620 Any Euros?

00:14:33.860 You've got to like subscribe to some of it.

00:14:36.020 Because it's the.

00:14:36.500 Probably Scotland, probably.

00:14:38.200 Yeah.

00:14:38.900 They're playing today.

00:14:39.800 Playing Germany today.

00:14:40.680 Of course they are.

00:14:41.640 If they, if they beat Germany, that's a big, big party in Scotland.

00:14:45.780 Oh, they don't have a chance.

00:14:47.140 I don't think, but.

00:14:47.980 No, you, you would be surprised.

00:14:49.800 You'd be surprised.

00:14:50.380 Anything can happen.

00:14:51.420 I hope that they win today.

00:14:52.320 We lost to, we lost to Iceland the other day.

00:14:54.460 Oh God.

00:14:55.360 Yeah.

00:14:55.760 And they don't even have green grass, do they? 0.99

00:14:59.260 That's fucking unbelievable, dude. 0.98

00:15:03.280 I mean, that's a bit of a sad thing. 0.99

00:15:05.300 I like it though.

00:15:06.940 I like the unpredictableness of football.

00:15:09.320 I find like American sport, I find really, I love watching American sport, but there's

00:15:15.020 no penalty for being bad.

00:15:18.600 You just get given more money in first draft.

00:15:21.300 So you have your teams.

00:15:22.940 Yeah.

00:15:23.140 And then if someone's bad, they go to the bottom, they get first draft, they can get

00:15:25.700 better again.

00:15:26.340 Here, if you're bad, you're out of the league.

00:15:28.640 You're just out.

00:15:29.520 And you go into a league that's not on television and you have to like fight to get back up into

00:15:33.260 the league that's on television.

00:15:34.240 And if you're bad in that league, you go to a lower league.

00:15:36.060 My football team, like for the past six years have not been on television at all.

00:15:42.300 We were in the third division two years ago.

00:15:44.940 And we've just finally got back up to the premier league, but it's more exciting.

00:15:49.820 It's unpredictable.

00:15:50.660 Whereas like, I'm a big Tennessee Titans fan and they're kind of always here.

00:15:55.100 Yeah.

00:15:55.400 You know, they're pretty mid.

00:15:56.560 Yeah.

00:15:56.860 Yeah.

00:15:57.220 Yeah.

00:15:57.520 But you know what, even in the game itself, I didn't realize that till you just said that

00:16:00.720 it's more unpredictable in the game.

00:16:02.740 It's like with soccer, like you can get the ball back in a moment.

00:16:06.500 Yeah.

00:16:06.900 So you could suddenly be an offense, but on, in the NFL, it's like, it's very tactical.

00:16:11.360 You know, it's going to be a little while before you get the ball back, you know, and

00:16:15.000 then there's going to be some-

00:16:15.780 And if you drop your guard in soccer for five minutes, your team can be like, there was

00:16:20.900 one, uh, one world cup that was in Brazil and Brazil were arguably the best team at that

00:16:27.780 time.

00:16:28.600 Um, and Germany ended up beating them seven, one just because there was like 20 minutes

00:16:32.640 of them letting their guard down.

00:16:34.500 Yeah.

00:16:34.860 That was, that was insane.

00:16:36.180 But I remember that I was in Vegas actually when I, um, when I was watching it.

00:16:40.140 That's where I met you at in Vegas.

00:16:41.140 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:16:42.100 Man, that was a crazy night. 0.99

00:16:43.320 Fucking hell. 0.99

00:16:43.560 Dude, what was that? 1.00

00:16:44.360 Cause like the chains hookers were just supposed to be performing, right? 1.00

00:16:47.060 I had gone, I was doing my final tour show.

00:16:49.700 So we basically were meant to play, play the Allegiant stadium in August and we'd set up

00:16:55.200 our whole state.

00:16:55.920 I have an in the round stage and we have these massive pylons that basically hang up all the

00:17:01.600 speakers and screens and stuff like that.

00:17:04.160 And it's weighted.

00:17:04.920 So everything has to be exactly the same weight.

00:17:06.980 Um, and in a regular stadium, it's a concrete floor.

00:17:10.840 You put them in, they stay there.

00:17:12.200 We didn't realize that Allegiant stadium didn't have a concrete floor.

00:17:15.680 I don't know where that, uh, misalignment happened.

00:17:20.160 But anyways, we put it in, it has a rubber floor and the stage was slowly slipping.

00:17:24.500 And these are like, you know, tons and tons and tons and tons of steel would have fallen

00:17:28.880 on people.

00:17:29.360 So we had to cancel the gig 20 minutes before it started.

00:17:33.080 And Vegas isn't a place where like people like 80,000 people that live in Vegas are going

00:17:37.900 to go.

00:17:38.220 People had flown in, they got hotels and so hot.

00:17:41.020 It was like one of the worst days on tour, but it was just, it was grim.

00:17:45.680 So we rescheduled the Allegiant stadium gig for then.

00:17:49.340 So that was my final show of the tour.

00:17:50.960 Um, and yeah, we, we got pretty fucking lit up afterwards and, uh, that's where I saw

00:17:57.440 you.

00:17:57.780 I'd kind of, I know the chain smokers, so I'd sort of turned up and then, uh, yeah, they're

00:18:01.740 great.

00:18:02.140 Kind of turned into karaoke.

00:18:03.500 Yeah.

00:18:03.940 Cause I was sort of thinking if you'd spent money on like a VIP table that night, see the

00:18:07.540 chain smokers and then suddenly just drunk me on stage in a Avengers mask.

00:18:12.700 Yeah.

00:18:12.960 It was good.

00:18:13.760 It was like, and here's the thing, man.

00:18:15.800 People knew it was you.

00:18:17.020 Okay.

00:18:17.560 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:18:18.540 I think at first people like, I was very aware, but like I was just wearing the mask

00:18:22.000 because they were wearing, it was Halloween.

00:18:23.880 Remember?

00:18:24.080 It was Halloween.

00:18:25.000 Yeah.

00:18:25.320 Let's say that.

00:18:26.260 So do you know, do you know those guys?

00:18:28.340 Yeah.

00:18:28.540 I just know them from like seeing them at different shows and being around them and stuff like

00:18:31.680 that, but their energy is always fun and good, you know?

00:18:34.080 And like, um, I just love getting to spend time with them.

00:18:38.240 Their shows are always fun.

00:18:39.500 Like I go to their shows.

00:18:40.500 Sometimes I'll go to Diplo, but I go to Fred again recently.

00:18:44.220 I like going to see what some of the DJs are like, you know?

00:18:46.920 Um, but then you got up and it seemed like you were going to maybe do one song.

00:18:50.280 And I was like, well, how are they going to get, are they going to go like a little

00:18:53.120 bit more ballady?

00:18:53.900 What are they going to do?

00:18:54.700 And then by the, by like four songs later, it's just, uh, it's a, uh, it's your show,

00:19:00.760 man.

00:19:00.980 That was it, dude.

00:19:02.420 Four songs later.

00:19:03.460 And it's just a, it's an edge here and people are just kissing and there's doves and stuff. 0.99

00:19:08.880 So where'd we get a bunch of fucking doves? 0.97

00:19:11.840 You know, there's like, it was a very, very interesting. 0.99

00:19:14.500 I felt like people were making wishes and stuff and hugging their grandmothers.

00:19:18.000 Are you going to go to any of the, uh, world cup games in 26 in America?

00:19:21.940 I probably will.

00:19:22.940 And that's soccer.

00:19:23.820 Yeah.

00:19:24.140 Yeah.

00:19:24.620 Oh yeah.

00:19:25.220 I'll probably get over to some of them.

00:19:27.000 Our soccer has been pretty bad, man.

00:19:29.500 Our country's going through a lot.

00:19:31.300 I'll be honest with you.

00:19:32.460 It's one of the reasons why I'm over here.

00:19:35.380 Um, have you not noticed ours is too?

00:19:37.440 Like, I feel like, I feel like English people and Americans, they always, they're like, oh, 1.00

00:19:42.520 do you know what the other place is better?

00:19:43.940 And then you go to the other place and you're like, oh, it's kind of, I feel like the world

00:19:46.540 is going through quite a lot.

00:19:48.120 Like we, we travel a lot and it's like election time all around the world.

00:19:51.040 And everywhere I go, I'm like, oh, it's kind of the same here as well.

00:19:53.960 I feel like everyone is going through a shift of some sort.

00:19:56.980 Oh, that's a good point.

00:19:57.780 You guys' elections are happening right now, huh?

00:19:59.940 Yeah.

00:20:00.880 Yeah.

00:20:01.320 I, um.

00:20:01.840 It's pretty, pretty bonkers. 1.00

00:20:03.000 Some of the shit that's coming out. 0.99

00:20:04.220 Like, it's like, you're sort of watching these interviews being like, does your like brain connect 1.00

00:20:09.120 to your mouth?

00:20:09.560 It's like, I sometimes feel like people don't want to get elected, but they're saying stuff

00:20:13.540 to just be like, now I'm done, man.

00:20:14.800 I'm done.

00:20:15.300 It's mad.

00:20:16.060 Well, I'm sure you probably, there's probably times you get halfway into something.

00:20:18.920 You're like, I don't know about this.

00:20:20.640 Yeah.

00:20:21.380 Like people get stage fright at the altar all the time sometimes, or sometimes you'll buy

00:20:26.000 something at the market and you'll put it back on the, like, and with the gums or the

00:20:29.460 candies or something, you'll put like just a pack of like sausages back there or something.

00:20:33.440 So I think that there's, if there's knocking, there's someone doing work next door, by the way.

00:20:38.860 As long as it's not an indentured servant, I think we're good.

00:20:42.220 You know what I'm saying?

00:20:43.000 Just because Britain's had their history.

00:20:45.340 But, and I'm not saying America didn't polish it up a little, but we've all, you know, we've

00:20:49.720 all sinned a little, or we didn't, but forefathers definitely, you know, had some crazy plans.

00:20:55.680 But yeah, dude.

00:20:58.000 But yeah, it's nice to be over here.

00:20:59.540 I like some, like I'll listen to James Blake.

00:21:01.600 I like his music a lot, you know, so I'll listen to some James Blake and, yeah, I'll

00:21:07.540 listen to Fred again.

00:21:09.480 What other kind of, I'm trying to think of British music do I listen to?

00:21:12.800 Um, oh, nice day for a wide wedding.

00:21:18.040 Oh, cool.

00:21:18.520 Yeah.

00:21:19.020 That guy, you know him?

00:21:19.940 Yeah.

00:21:20.620 No, I don't.

00:21:21.660 I mean, I know the song.

00:21:22.540 I don't, I don't know him.

00:21:24.020 Start again.

00:21:26.840 Who's your-

00:21:27.400 Every little sister.

00:21:29.440 Maybe that's not the lyric.

00:21:30.360 That seems a little bit perverse.

00:21:31.380 Who's your NFL team then?

00:21:32.880 Oh, sorry.

00:21:33.440 I'm a Saints, New Orleans Saints fan.

00:21:34.840 Cool.

00:21:35.020 Are you from New Orleans then?

00:21:36.040 Yeah, that's where I'm from, out of Louisiana.

00:21:37.560 So why move to Nashville?

00:21:39.080 Well, I lived in LA for a while and then Nashville was open during the pandemic.

00:21:43.400 Yeah, yeah.

00:21:43.820 So you could do what you want.

00:21:44.940 You could like, you know, spit, you could spit on people and they were still okay with

00:21:50.820 it, you know?

00:21:51.400 Like, so it definitely like-

00:21:52.940 It's a good criteria to move to a town.

00:21:54.760 You're like, can I spit on people?

00:21:56.700 Yeah.

00:21:57.220 Or, you know, you could, you know, you could just, you know, I mean, you couldn't even,

00:22:01.520 yeah, it just, that mask, when you think about what the mask, it just like, you could,

00:22:07.160 I will say this though, you could look at somebody and kind of lick your lips in a

00:22:10.600 way that you wouldn't normally be able to.

00:22:12.880 And that's something I miss, you know, just being point blank.

00:22:16.440 I like the fact, I can move, I really love public transport and I can move around easier

00:22:21.640 now since COVID because wearing a ski mask is not seen as creepy.

00:22:26.020 Yeah.

00:22:26.320 People just, you're just sort of in a ski mask.

00:22:27.780 Oh, that's a good point.

00:22:28.320 You're just still in one.

00:22:29.280 Yeah.

00:22:29.460 Yeah.

00:22:29.640 Every now and then, yeah.

00:22:30.400 If I go in the airport now and I'll just wear like one of those long neck ones, you know?

00:22:34.600 Yeah.

00:22:34.860 And I definitely feel like, oh, people are like, who's the weirdo still with the neck

00:22:38.400 and the glasses and the hat.

00:22:40.420 And I'll even put a wig on sometimes and like, who the hell is this lady? 1.00

00:22:46.180 Wig's a good idea. 1.00

00:22:46.920 Yeah.

00:22:47.220 Trying to get laid or whatever.

00:22:48.780 I sometimes considered dressing up as Santa Claus when I went to the supermarket at Christmas

00:22:52.580 because I was like, I was like, I really need to go and get Christmas supplies.

00:22:55.600 But the supermarket's obviously really busy at Christmas and I'm not like, I don't, I don't blend 1.00

00:23:00.900 in that well.

00:23:01.540 And I was like, if I dressed up as Santa Claus, maybe that'd be fine.

00:23:04.460 Oh yeah.

00:23:05.060 Walk in, get your Christmas supplies.

00:23:07.020 Everyone's like, Santa's here.

00:23:09.340 You know?

00:23:09.540 Did I see that?

00:23:10.480 There's no way I saw you cheering as Santa Claus buying bagels.

00:23:14.540 Did you see that fighter that looked like you the other day?

00:23:16.880 It was like on a UFC fight or something.

00:23:18.380 Oh my God.

00:23:19.160 Yeah.

00:23:19.660 Well, I mean, he is.

00:23:20.220 I thought it was you, brother.

00:23:21.300 Well, he is a lookalike.

00:23:22.420 He's.

00:23:22.720 Oh, he is.

00:23:23.640 Did you not see the thing where there was the Floyd Mayweather, no, the KSI Logan Paul

00:23:28.080 fight.

00:23:28.780 And I was like, I was ringside, but it was this, this lookalike.

00:23:33.400 And some YouTubers had done a thing where they were like, let's try and fool them.

00:23:37.420 And they got this lookalike.

00:23:38.540 And Eddie Hearn essentially just gave my lookalike ringside tickets.

00:23:42.640 And he was only, the only way that he was found out was Justin Bieber turned up and

00:23:46.640 was like, that's not it.

00:23:48.380 Wow.

00:23:48.800 And yeah.

00:23:50.120 But yeah, I did see it.

00:23:51.700 I did see it.

00:23:52.320 Did you see the Eddie Hall one?

00:23:53.920 No, I didn't see it.

00:23:54.820 What is it?

00:23:55.140 Can we watch it?

00:23:55.600 Can we get the Eddie Hall one up?

00:23:57.460 Because look, I just, the other night I was going through, it was on TikTok or something.

00:24:00.780 The other night.

00:24:01.320 So this is the same, the same fight.

00:24:03.080 And it pulls up, you know?

00:24:04.500 Just go on the shorter one, like the real.

00:24:07.620 Down.

00:24:08.120 Oh, sorry.

00:24:08.560 The shorts.

00:24:09.180 Just down.

00:24:09.900 Yeah.

00:24:10.220 One of them.

00:24:12.640 Just two on one.

00:24:15.140 Oh my gosh, huh?

00:24:16.960 And are those the Island boys?

00:24:19.560 Oh, what?

00:24:19.920 Jedward.

00:24:20.600 Who's he beating?

00:24:22.740 Oh, they're who?

00:24:25.900 Oh, that guy's Irish for sure. 1.00

00:24:27.660 The one he tossed. 1.00

00:24:29.020 Damn, it's like, wow. 0.99

00:24:31.500 Oh my God, huh? 1.00

00:24:33.720 Just take a sleeping pill.

00:24:35.060 So that was the same night, I think, that my lookalike was doing the fight.

00:24:40.020 Oh, well, this is what it's coming to.

00:24:41.440 That's good, boys.

00:24:42.120 We get it.

00:24:42.380 I don't think I'm-

00:24:43.520 This is what it's coming to.

00:24:44.640 No, Ed, I'm just going to let you know.

00:24:46.060 This is the kind of thing that it's coming to.

00:24:48.540 People are going to, you're going to have like, you know, freckled stepmother versus like, 1.00

00:24:54.560 you know, gambling addict Vietnamese or something. 0.89

00:24:59.140 You know, it's going to, it's getting, that's where all going to be bet.

00:25:02.840 It's just constant betting.

00:25:04.160 I think you can feel it coming up in the world.

00:25:06.140 It's like-

00:25:06.600 Would you do one of them?

00:25:07.420 Against a male or female, you think? 0.82

00:25:17.980 Against Caleb.

00:25:19.180 Oh, against Caleb Presley?

00:25:20.360 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:25:20.820 Oh, man, you and him both have the mischievous look in your eyes all the same time.

00:25:25.500 So that's how you guys could be related.

00:25:28.560 I had a good night with Caleb.

00:25:29.460 Did you?

00:25:29.820 I was just with him in Lisbon yesterday.

00:25:31.740 Yeah, he's fun.

00:25:32.540 My friend got married and we went to Lisbon.

00:25:36.020 I went over there to see him.

00:25:37.740 Caleb came to a show in Dublin and then we went over there.

00:25:39.980 It was really cool.

00:25:40.840 Lisbon's amazing.

00:25:41.780 Lisbon is amazing.

00:25:42.560 Lisbon's amazing.

00:25:43.340 Oh, Caleb's great though, dude.

00:25:44.440 He's very smart, mischievous.

00:25:47.660 He likes to like-

00:25:49.000 Who do you think wins?

00:25:50.260 Between me and Caleb?

00:25:51.560 Yeah.

00:25:52.000 That's a great question.

00:25:53.700 You and him both get in a cage.

00:25:54.920 You put on those little gloves.

00:25:56.860 But how little the gloves?

00:25:58.300 Here's what I think you should have to do.

00:25:59.220 Gloves that are way too small.

00:26:00.880 Not just gloves that are like weighted gloves,

00:26:02.940 but like extra small.

00:26:04.840 Yeah.

00:26:05.220 And then your hands are like this, you know?

00:26:07.220 And then you have to fight.

00:26:08.620 Like, oh, dang.

00:26:09.700 Did you ever fight at school?

00:26:11.360 Did you do wrestling and stuff?

00:26:12.600 I've gotten beat.

00:26:13.320 I got beaten a decent amount as a lad, I remember.

00:26:17.200 I remember at our school, if you got in a fight during school,

00:26:20.360 this is what they made you do.

00:26:21.800 You had to stand in the hall, whoever you fought,

00:26:24.060 and you had to put your hands on each other's shoulders

00:26:26.140 for the rest of the day and just be there

00:26:28.260 and looking at each other and talking.

00:26:29.460 And so by the end of the day,

00:26:30.580 you were friends with whoever you fought, you know?

00:26:32.840 And all the kids would come down the hall between class 0.96

00:26:35.020 and call you a wanker or whatever, you know? 0.91

00:26:37.900 That sounds actually quite a good way to solve problems. 0.98

00:26:40.780 I thought it was.

00:26:41.360 Yeah.

00:26:41.680 Because it was no, by the end of the day,

00:26:43.280 you had to make each other laugh or figure out what went on.

00:26:46.180 And you realize that like, yeah,

00:26:47.880 you're probably similar.

00:26:51.020 Similar.

00:26:51.540 Yeah.

00:26:52.160 Well, you certainly didn't hate, like.

00:26:53.840 Didn't hate each other by the end of the day.

00:26:55.160 Yeah.

00:26:55.440 Or if you thought the guy was a bully,

00:26:56.940 you got to kind of figure it out with him or.

00:26:58.780 Or, and you work out why he was being a bully

00:27:00.680 or lashing out.

00:27:01.460 Right.

00:27:01.780 Yeah, yeah.

00:27:02.100 What was going on?

00:27:02.960 I thought it was just kind of an interesting program, man.

00:27:06.480 Yeah.

00:27:06.940 I don't have a wife,

00:27:07.940 but I'm probably going to get one one of these days.

00:27:09.740 And so do you,

00:27:11.440 do you think it's hard?

00:27:14.160 Because you're like the love,

00:27:15.380 like a lot of your songs have like a lot of love in them,

00:27:18.960 you know?

00:27:19.300 And so is it hard to still be like,

00:27:24.180 does your wife ever feel like,

00:27:25.560 oh,

00:27:25.740 you write all the good songs for the whole world?

00:27:28.900 No,

00:27:29.440 I think,

00:27:29.920 you know,

00:27:30.160 we went to,

00:27:31.040 we went to high school together.

00:27:32.320 So we've known each other 22 years now.

00:27:34.940 And all of our mates are the same friends.

00:27:38.820 So we're like,

00:27:39.880 we have like a little Suffolk cohort.

00:27:42.380 And it's,

00:27:44.160 she's very,

00:27:44.700 she's very comfortable with,

00:27:46.260 she's known me through everything.

00:27:48.340 So she's not like,

00:27:49.340 there's not really any self-consciousness that comes through it,

00:27:52.640 I guess.

00:27:53.260 And we are,

00:27:55.440 I mean,

00:27:55.820 we're with each other.

00:27:56.920 I'm going to see her after this to have a little,

00:28:00.620 little break,

00:28:01.300 but like,

00:28:01.840 yeah,

00:28:03.060 we're with each other all the time.

00:28:04.000 So we talk,

00:28:04.540 we talk a lot.

00:28:05.120 I find that small,

00:28:07.480 lots of,

00:28:08.200 lots of little,

00:28:09.100 small,

00:28:09.380 uncomfortable conversations save,

00:28:11.800 arguments.

00:28:12.760 So you just like,

00:28:13.760 if anything ever comes up and we'll just sort of nip it in the bud there,

00:28:16.300 rather than let like resentment build.

00:28:18.200 Yeah.

00:28:18.420 I struggle with that sometimes,

00:28:19.740 man.

00:28:20.460 Yeah.

00:28:20.740 I'll just,

00:28:21.140 I'll want to try and yeah,

00:28:22.860 I don't know.

00:28:23.680 Sometimes I can feel like right now you should probably say this,

00:28:26.200 that way everything will be smooth.

00:28:27.920 And there's a part of me that's like,

00:28:29.400 and then you just have to be like,

00:28:30.940 and just say it.

00:28:32.200 And then it's actually,

00:28:32.800 it's actually fine.

00:28:33.540 I'm,

00:28:33.920 I kind of do that with like everyone.

00:28:35.740 I'm just trying,

00:28:36.500 try to be like as honest as possible at all points.

00:28:39.240 And then there's not really,

00:28:40.580 you kind of see it as,

00:28:41.800 like bricks in a backpack.

00:28:44.260 Like you'll,

00:28:45.080 you've got loads of bricks in your backpack.

00:28:46.440 And if you can take a brick out quickly,

00:28:48.860 it just lightens the load.

00:28:50.420 So it's just getting the bricks out.

00:28:52.180 Yeah.

00:28:52.800 You know?

00:28:53.300 Yeah.

00:28:53.620 Gosh.

00:28:53.940 I wonder how many relationships for years,

00:28:56.240 husbands and wives just sit on their words. 1.00

00:28:58.640 You know what I'm saying?

00:28:59.760 I think a lot.

00:29:00.340 Go through every,

00:29:01.740 and just sitting on a,

00:29:03.100 for a sentence.

00:29:04.460 And then suddenly they're running at you with a meat cleaver.

00:29:07.020 Yeah.

00:29:07.720 Yeah.

00:29:08.680 And just serving the last sausage brother in the dark hallway.

00:29:12.960 Yeah.

00:29:13.500 Like a good man over there in Leeds or wherever.

00:29:17.520 What's the most dangerous place to be around here?

00:29:20.480 Here?

00:29:21.660 I'd say every,

00:29:22.940 every area of London has a,

00:29:25.880 literally everywhere area is sketchy.

00:29:28.360 Like I think that you can not be anywhere.

00:29:32.940 I love that.

00:29:34.020 Yeah.

00:29:34.300 It's not,

00:29:34.800 it's not like a segregated city.

00:29:37.020 There's like,

00:29:37.620 it's very,

00:29:38.920 everybody's scared.

00:29:39.820 Everybody's.

00:29:40.560 No,

00:29:40.780 I mean the nice areas are sketchy.

00:29:42.840 The bad areas are sketchy, 1.00

00:29:44.080 but you just have to not do stupid shit. 1.00

00:29:47.140 Like if you, 1.00

00:29:48.080 if you wander around with,

00:29:51.840 I don't know,

00:29:53.040 like a Louis Vuitton duffel bag and a 200 grand watch.

00:29:57.040 Yeah.

00:29:57.360 You are going to get robbed.

00:29:58.640 Like,

00:29:58.820 but,

00:29:59.560 but just don't do that.

00:30:01.100 Yeah.

00:30:01.520 Don't do it.

00:30:02.640 Yeah.

00:30:02.920 I think,

00:30:03.520 and y'all's robberies all have clues and stuff.

00:30:06.240 That's what I like about London.

00:30:07.880 Clues.

00:30:08.760 Or like if,

00:30:09.360 you know,

00:30:09.620 if there's something that happens,

00:30:10.840 it's like,

00:30:11.200 Oh,

00:30:11.420 he has a clue,

00:30:12.320 you know,

00:30:13.080 and the detectives or whatever,

00:30:15.820 then they're hot on your trail.

00:30:17.440 That's what I love.

00:30:18.300 That's one of like the,

00:30:19.100 I think the things that like you guys.

00:30:20.820 I love that everything that you think about England is based on movies and like,

00:30:25.060 cause it's the way that I used to view America as well.

00:30:27.340 I used,

00:30:27.680 I remember going,

00:30:28.500 I was,

00:30:28.860 uh,

00:30:29.380 my wife went to Duke and we went back.

00:30:31.560 My mother went to Duke.

00:30:32.700 Oh,

00:30:33.620 good,

00:30:33.960 good university.

00:30:34.900 But I remember we were in town for something and we were driving past the fractures.

00:30:38.620 And I was like,

00:30:39.860 I've never been to a frat party.

00:30:41.820 Should we just knock on the door of one of them?

00:30:44.100 And they'll be having a frat party like the movies.

00:30:46.900 And like,

00:30:47.640 Terry was like,

00:30:48.240 yeah,

00:30:48.440 I guess so.

00:30:49.140 They're a bit,

00:30:49.560 it's not like that vibe.

00:30:51.320 And I,

00:30:51.760 uh,

00:30:52.000 we went up,

00:30:52.560 I knocked on the door,

00:30:53.080 one of them opened the door and was like,

00:30:54.200 why are you knocking on our door?

00:30:55.620 And then we went in and it was just like three dudes and one guy who had his face super glued

00:31:00.280 to the floor.

00:31:01.000 Oh yeah.

00:31:01.200 And it was like,

00:31:01.780 not the vibe.

00:31:02.680 And I was like,

00:31:03.180 this isn't like the movies.

00:31:05.340 You're like,

00:31:05.760 this is,

00:31:06.220 he was just literally like this face super glued down.

00:31:08.440 And they were just like,

00:31:09.040 yeah,

00:31:09.140 we don't really know.

00:31:10.480 Yeah.

00:31:11.480 Well,

00:31:11.920 you,

00:31:12.100 it's hard to get that guy up,

00:31:13.220 I bet.

00:31:13.660 And then,

00:31:14.560 yeah,

00:31:14.700 there was this in their manufacturing rehyponols or something like that,

00:31:18.080 a GHB or whatever,

00:31:19.720 a lot of homemade GHB in those areas.

00:31:21.800 But yeah,

00:31:22.180 it's not,

00:31:22.720 it's not like,

00:31:23.460 it's not like the movies.

00:31:24.580 Yeah.

00:31:24.920 It's not.

00:31:25.360 Yeah.

00:31:25.600 Nothing's kind of ever like,

00:31:26.720 I don't know.

00:31:27.300 Like even today we pulled up in a Notting Hill and I was like,

00:31:30.580 we're going to be in love or whatever.

00:31:33.220 Yeah.

00:31:33.580 You know,

00:31:33.960 cause like.

00:31:34.320 Notting Hill is quite,

00:31:35.080 this is quite like,

00:31:36.040 if you're talking about like nice areas.

00:31:38.260 Yeah.

00:31:38.380 It just seemed romantic,

00:31:39.640 you know,

00:31:39.900 like you'd meet like,

00:31:41.300 you know,

00:31:41.760 Paddington bear is having a coffee with a woman or something over there,

00:31:45.760 you know,

00:31:46.060 like.

00:31:46.500 Bestiality.

00:31:47.080 Yeah.

00:31:49.720 Caffeine fuel bestiality,

00:31:51.620 dude.

00:31:52.140 That's our new.

00:31:53.260 Have you ever.

00:31:54.760 Have I ever.

00:31:55.840 No,

00:31:56.280 have you ever.

00:31:58.300 Considered a collab with Paddington bear.

00:32:02.420 I,

00:32:02.880 yeah.

00:32:03.020 Do you know what?

00:32:03.480 I would love to do a kids movie.

00:32:07.220 Now,

00:32:07.620 now that I have children,

00:32:08.580 I'd love to do some,

00:32:09.600 some form of animated something with,

00:32:11.720 with music.

00:32:12.380 I don't know if it's Paddington bear or.

00:32:15.240 Yeah.

00:32:16.000 Something.

00:32:16.660 Cause he's a famous British bear,

00:32:18.460 isn't he?

00:32:18.880 Very.

00:32:19.200 Well,

00:32:19.400 he's actually from where's Paddington bear from Peru.

00:32:22.620 Yeah.

00:32:22.840 He's from,

00:32:23.460 he's from,

00:32:23.820 well,

00:32:24.260 but in the,

00:32:25.580 in the book,

00:32:26.080 he's from Peru.

00:32:26.620 He travels over to England.

00:32:28.140 He's obsessed with,

00:32:28.900 is it jam sandwiches or peanut butter sandwich jam?

00:32:31.060 And was he allowed to stay after Brexit or was he?

00:32:33.580 Well,

00:32:33.800 this is me.

00:32:34.400 This is,

00:32:34.900 so I have an Irish passport and you can only spend 90 days in Europe if you're English.

00:32:41.840 So I was like,

00:32:43.220 I'm,

00:32:43.860 I have the Irish passport.

00:32:44.700 I can tour more in,

00:32:45.940 in Europe,

00:32:46.320 but like none of my crew can spend more than 90 days there.

00:32:50.540 And it used to be Brexit.

00:32:52.840 I think everyone has agreed that Brexit didn't work.

00:32:56.400 And I don't,

00:32:57.380 I think there will be a time where we will try and backtrack it a little bit and get back

00:33:01.500 into Europe.

00:33:01.980 But yeah,

00:33:03.400 it's a,

00:33:05.000 it was one of the,

00:33:05.660 it was such a divisive thing at the time.

00:33:07.640 Oh,

00:33:07.840 it was.

00:33:08.300 Yeah.

00:33:08.460 It was like 50% of the country thought we should leave.

00:33:10.320 50% of the country thought we should stay.

00:33:12.320 And it was a very,

00:33:12.880 very,

00:33:13.140 very small margin that we left.

00:33:16.180 And I feel like the people that voted leave now are like,

00:33:20.480 actually wasn't the best idea.

00:33:22.760 We should have stayed.

00:33:23.760 Yeah.

00:33:24.040 That's how we're feeling.

00:33:24.740 I think after the Mayflower and everything,

00:33:26.660 I think we might build another Mayflower.

00:33:29.760 What is the Mayflower?

00:33:30.800 The ship that we left on a long time ago.

00:33:32.880 Right.

00:33:33.580 And when you say we.

00:33:36.200 A lot of people.

00:33:37.200 Yeah.

00:33:38.080 I think a lot of people are going to be coming back.

00:33:40.060 Yeah.

00:33:40.320 I really do.

00:33:41.160 Like we might build a June flower,

00:33:43.600 July flower.

00:33:44.520 I don't know.

00:33:44.940 We're going to build one month.

00:33:46.200 We're going to build a big boat.

00:33:47.180 And I think we're coming back.

00:33:48.360 Cool.

00:33:48.820 I just don't think it's panned out as well as we expected over there.

00:33:51.780 It just gotten kind of like a lot of the tradition I think is,

00:33:54.740 disappearing in America.

00:33:55.720 And maybe that's good.

00:33:57.000 Like sometimes you just don't.

00:33:58.080 I think that's the scary thing about when tradition goes away.

00:34:01.480 What is the,

00:34:02.140 because I see America is like lots and lots and lots of traditions and cultures.

00:34:07.020 What is the one central tradition that Americans can agree on?

00:34:12.420 That's a good point.

00:34:13.200 I think,

00:34:13.500 or maybe we're just in a phase where there isn't really that.

00:34:16.320 Right.

00:34:16.760 And so that feels like.

00:34:19.260 But you still.

00:34:20.180 Scary.

00:34:20.420 You'll still celebrate July 4th and stuff like that.

00:34:22.540 That's like everyone will celebrate that.

00:34:24.340 Right.

00:34:25.740 Some people now are seeing it as it's like a bad thing,

00:34:28.960 you know,

00:34:29.300 like,

00:34:29.960 but then it's not like we,

00:34:31.100 it's like.

00:34:32.100 I turned up to my first July 4th in a red coat.

00:34:34.960 Did you?

00:34:35.540 Yeah.

00:34:35.780 Let's go.

00:34:37.060 And,

00:34:37.360 and a flag.

00:34:38.220 Cause I was like.

00:34:39.380 And the UK flag.

00:34:40.380 We're coming back.

00:34:41.000 No.

00:34:41.560 Yeah.

00:34:41.820 Yeah.

00:34:42.340 Captain Jack.

00:34:43.160 What is it?

00:34:43.620 Union Jack.

00:34:44.640 Union Jack.

00:34:45.680 The flags are weird over here as well.

00:34:47.180 Cause I don't think you can fly flags unless the football's on.

00:34:51.660 Yeah.

00:34:52.560 Yeah.

00:34:52.920 Yeah.

00:34:53.160 Yeah.

00:34:53.340 Yeah.

00:34:53.400 If somebody's flying without the football,

00:34:54.700 like,

00:34:54.940 Oh,

00:34:55.000 that guy's.

00:34:55.920 Yeah.

00:34:56.920 He's not doing as well.

00:34:58.000 He's Scottish.

00:34:58.660 And no offense of anybody's Scottish,

00:35:02.340 dude.

00:35:02.780 A lot of people are saying it's not even real.

00:35:04.740 It's just a glitch on the map.

00:35:08.700 But that is,

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00:37:46.280 Did you get to go to like the Highlands or anything or try,

00:37:49.320 try where they make scotch?

00:37:50.580 No,

00:37:51.080 we didn't.

00:37:52.060 We didn't get to yet.

00:37:53.160 We didn't get to do a lot of stuff like that,

00:37:54.700 dude.

00:37:55.340 Are you a whiskey guy?

00:37:57.080 Uh-uh.

00:37:57.580 I don't drink right now.

00:37:59.060 Really?

00:37:59.500 Yeah.

00:38:00.000 Because I'll buy drugs.

00:38:00.860 Because you, 0.88

00:38:01.360 oh,

00:38:01.580 my man.

00:38:03.140 So.

00:38:06.020 A clue.

00:38:08.280 What's your drug of choice? 0.84

00:38:09.400 Are you like going mad prescription?

00:38:11.060 No.

00:38:11.700 I think my,

00:38:12.700 I guess I'm probably more of pretty much a straight cocaine guy.

00:38:16.860 You know,

00:38:17.660 I would guess.

00:38:18.400 Yeah.

00:38:18.880 I would just,

00:38:20.300 I would definitely,

00:38:21.480 oh yeah.

00:38:23.620 I will even,

00:38:24.460 I remember even when I quit doing drugs,

00:38:26.760 I would still,

00:38:27.520 if my buddy of mine was doing a line of cocaine,

00:38:29.800 which I don't recommend to anyone.

00:38:33.300 But I've done it a lot,

00:38:34.560 but I would hold the back of his neck while he did it.

00:38:37.360 Like that's how close I still wanted to be to the action.

00:38:40.800 And that's very,

00:38:42.060 the back of your neck is a sentimental place.

00:38:43.840 Yeah.

00:38:44.600 Yeah.

00:38:44.920 It's also like,

00:38:45.600 that's quite like,

00:38:46.420 I felt if someone grabbed the back of my neck,

00:38:48.000 I'd be like,

00:38:48.380 what is about to happen?

00:38:49.600 Yeah.

00:38:49.880 It feels,

00:38:50.400 but if they cares,

00:38:51.300 we just ride,

00:38:52.240 just,

00:38:52.520 you know,

00:38:53.500 just ride shot.

00:38:54.120 Still quiet.

00:38:54.760 There's still a bit of predator in that.

00:38:56.620 I agree.

00:38:57.580 Okay.

00:38:58.420 A bit of a really gentle caress.

00:39:00.100 That's even worse.

00:39:00.800 The gentle caress on the back of the neck.

00:39:02.360 Oh yeah.

00:39:03.160 It's very,

00:39:04.120 Oh my God.

00:39:04.840 Just the loitering of the hand is just,

00:39:07.220 it's like riding shotgun on a line of cocaine really in a way.

00:39:10.320 And it's,

00:39:10.980 yeah.

00:39:11.600 But yeah,

00:39:12.040 so obviously I've,

00:39:13.040 you know.

00:39:13.520 So how long have you been sober for?

00:39:15.020 Probably about two years right now.

00:39:16.560 Congrats,

00:39:17.040 man.

00:39:17.280 Thanks,

00:39:17.620 man.

00:39:17.740 It's amazing.

00:39:18.360 Appreciate it.

00:39:18.860 I had a couple of years and it's just,

00:39:21.320 yeah,

00:39:21.560 cause I get all squirreled out,

00:39:23.360 you know,

00:39:23.940 I'll be in your yard,

00:39:25.200 boy.

00:39:25.660 You know what I'm saying? 1.00

00:39:27.040 I'll be in your fucking yard. 1.00

00:39:28.940 Oh yeah. 1.00

00:39:29.580 I'll be fucking out there. 0.99

00:39:30.740 So now you are the guy with the red bull. 0.99

00:39:33.780 Just to get,

00:39:34.280 yeah,

00:39:34.420 yeah.

00:39:35.020 Oh,

00:39:35.460 I look like I'm making Bluetooth or something.

00:39:37.520 I start,

00:39:38.000 you know,

00:39:38.240 getting the jitters.

00:39:39.120 People are like,

00:39:39.500 Oh my God,

00:39:40.540 that guy's showing up as a router.

00:39:45.880 That guy's not doing well,

00:39:48.360 you know?

00:39:49.560 So that's kind of the stuff.

00:39:51.160 Oh,

00:39:51.360 that's pretty.

00:39:52.560 Is it,

00:39:54.380 what's a,

00:39:54.980 what's like a,

00:39:56.180 since you've had,

00:39:57.040 you've been obviously very gifted and had a lot of success and worked very hard,

00:40:01.160 all those things.

00:40:01.840 What are some stuff as that you kind of wanted to do and you didn't?

00:40:05.320 Cause touring and stuff takes a lot of time and touring and working.

00:40:08.800 And it's like when you're in,

00:40:09.620 I've never been to a water park in my life.

00:40:12.440 Yeah.

00:40:12.820 Oh man.

00:40:13.380 And that's something that I'm like,

00:40:14.800 uh,

00:40:15.800 I'd love to do at some point,

00:40:17.060 but I've never been ever.

00:40:18.080 And is it because like a sunshine thing is like a,

00:40:21.040 no,

00:40:22.200 it's,

00:40:22.680 uh,

00:40:23.080 um,

00:40:23.500 as I said,

00:40:24.100 like I got,

00:40:24.960 I,

00:40:25.220 I left school before school finished and no,

00:40:29.140 it's not,

00:40:29.400 that's not,

00:40:29.860 I just,

00:40:30.460 I left,

00:40:31.280 I went to be a singer.

00:40:32.420 I became a singer.

00:40:33.300 And in that time I was working just flat out to become a singer.

00:40:37.080 And then I became a singer.

00:40:38.360 And then because I,

00:40:40.420 people knew who I was,

00:40:41.800 it sort of limited things that I could do,

00:40:44.400 but I never really did it in that.

00:40:45.740 I was so focused on my career that,

00:40:48.720 you know,

00:40:49.540 there were TV shows that were like massive cultural phenomenons at the time in my age group.

00:40:54.280 I only discovered like five years ago or like I didn't watch any football.

00:40:57.920 I didn't pay attention to this.

00:40:59.160 It was just so I'm going to,

00:41:01.520 I want to do this.

00:41:02.420 Um,

00:41:02.840 so yeah,

00:41:03.220 there were some things that I missed out on in that time.

00:41:06.360 One of which being a war.

00:41:08.880 It's a, 0.54

00:41:09.400 it's a silly thing,

00:41:10.100 but it's something that I would love to do.

00:41:12.220 Oh,

00:41:12.620 you should get a,

00:41:13.740 you should get a bus full of,

00:41:17.320 I don't want to say ginger men or whatever and take them to a water park. 0.98

00:41:22.840 I think it would be,

00:41:23.900 and I don't know if that,

00:41:24.760 I hope that's not an offensive term.

00:41:25.860 It's not,

00:41:26.420 or I think you should get a bus full of,

00:41:28.220 it's interesting though,

00:41:28.880 isn't it?

00:41:29.160 The ginger thing.

00:41:29.700 Cause it's like,

00:41:30.540 it is the last bastion of racism.

00:41:33.860 You can't,

00:41:34.440 no,

00:41:34.660 no,

00:41:34.800 no,

00:41:35.240 no,

00:41:35.400 it's both things that you can make fun of.

00:41:37.800 Someone on a TV show picked up,

00:41:40.360 they put a picture of a ginger cat on and they were like,

00:41:42.260 this cat kind of looks like you.

00:41:43.420 And in my head,

00:41:43.960 I was like,

00:41:44.620 if there was someone fat on this couch and you got up a picture of a fat cat,

00:41:48.400 that would be really offensive.

00:41:49.580 So when,

00:41:49.940 when does the line start?

00:41:52.700 It stops just right outside of ginger.

00:41:54.640 I think.

00:41:54.840 I think so too.

00:41:55.680 Well,

00:41:55.760 in America,

00:41:57.260 it stops you. 0.98

00:41:57.740 The only people you can still make fun of are like redneck white people. 0.96

00:42:01.420 Yeah. 0.87

00:42:01.720 And everybody else is kind of off limits.

00:42:03.440 So it's like,

00:42:04.680 you know,

00:42:05.540 yeah,

00:42:05.840 but I support,

00:42:07.000 I've always supported people that are really pale with red hair.

00:42:11.120 Yeah.

00:42:11.800 Yeah.

00:42:12.300 So they come out with an SPF milkshake.

00:42:14.740 I think you definitely,

00:42:16.040 the,

00:42:16.300 the,

00:42:17.020 uh,

00:42:17.420 amount of,

00:42:18.180 um,

00:42:19.240 sort of fun that's made out of you as a kid makes for a good personality.

00:42:23.620 Oh,

00:42:23.900 I feel like,

00:42:24.440 I feel like I have more fun than the pretty kids that I grew up with.

00:42:27.280 Oh yeah,

00:42:28.200 dude.

00:42:28.600 My best friend was the good looking kid,

00:42:31.220 dude.

00:42:31.900 Oh,

00:42:33.240 no,

00:42:33.880 not him.

00:42:34.540 He's pretty good looking too,

00:42:36.000 dude.

00:42:36.340 He also looks like a really hot woman in some countries. 0.97

00:42:40.880 Okay.

00:42:41.360 I'm not going to name them,

00:42:42.640 but a lot of Slavic areas.

00:42:45.980 He's at a,

00:42:46.740 he's a nine female nine,

00:42:48.860 dude.

00:42:49.480 If he,

00:42:50.340 and that's only if he partially shaves.

00:42:53.280 Um,

00:42:53.720 so,

00:42:54.180 but no,

00:42:55.760 my buddy Scott,

00:42:56.640 when I was growing up,

00:42:57.080 that's whose wedding I was at.

00:42:58.040 He was like the handsomest guy.

00:43:00.120 And he's just got no chat.

00:43:01.580 And he just,

00:43:02.880 he,

00:43:03.540 but no,

00:43:03.900 he was great.

00:43:04.460 He was just,

00:43:04.980 but yeah,

00:43:05.320 I always had to be the other guy.

00:43:07.180 Yeah.

00:43:07.560 You know?

00:43:08.400 And,

00:43:08.840 um,

00:43:09.700 you probably,

00:43:10.340 you feel like you've aged like a fine wine,

00:43:12.140 right?

00:43:13.060 I've aged,

00:43:14.220 I've aged.

00:43:16.100 Um,

00:43:16.780 I've aged like a decent provolone,

00:43:20.520 I think.

00:43:21.040 Yeah.

00:43:21.640 I don't know if I'd say fine wine.

00:43:24.860 Yeah.

00:43:25.280 Maybe a,

00:43:26.100 provolone age.

00:43:27.560 Provolone.

00:43:28.120 I'm sure it ages.

00:43:29.100 Just get moldy,

00:43:29.860 right?

00:43:30.040 You know what I'm saying?

00:43:32.320 You've got to get tested every now and then.

00:43:35.020 You know what I'm saying?

00:43:35.800 Keep your pH balance decent.

00:43:38.100 Um,

00:43:38.860 but I was going to say,

00:43:39.980 are there,

00:43:40.500 are there things you started to do?

00:43:41.980 Like in your career that you started,

00:43:43.140 like it was another,

00:43:43.700 like thing you wanted to start to learn,

00:43:45.780 like learn a language.

00:43:46.500 You know,

00:43:46.660 like Joe Rogan told me one day,

00:43:47.800 he's like,

00:43:48.780 when I'm done with doing this job,

00:43:50.580 I want to paint.

00:43:51.940 And I never thought I would hear him say,

00:43:53.780 I was like,

00:43:54.100 huh?

00:43:54.640 Yeah.

00:43:55.340 Howard Stern paints really,

00:43:57.560 really well.

00:43:58.220 Howard Stern does like amazing,

00:43:59.740 watercolors.

00:44:00.860 They're like,

00:44:01.140 you see them and you're like, 1.00

00:44:01.940 holy shit. 1.00

00:44:02.460 Yeah. 1.00

00:44:02.920 Dude,

00:44:03.180 silence of the lambs paints,

00:44:04.560 dude.

00:44:04.920 That guy.

00:44:06.720 What's his name?

00:44:07.580 Anthony Hopkins.

00:44:08.720 Anthony Hopkins,

00:44:09.720 dude,

00:44:09.960 bring him up.

00:44:11.560 Oh,

00:44:11.820 wow.

00:44:13.120 He paints.

00:44:13.820 That's amazing.

00:44:15.620 Did the lambs stop painting?

00:44:17.980 I,

00:44:18.460 I paint as well.

00:44:20.220 Oh,

00:44:20.460 really?

00:44:20.800 I didn't know that.

00:44:21.200 Actually at the front of the pub,

00:44:22.580 there's a painting that I did,

00:44:23.860 but it's less,

00:44:24.520 it's more,

00:44:25.920 it's more,

00:44:26.420 I just go into a studio with canvases on the floor and just splash loads of color.

00:44:32.200 And when it's done,

00:44:33.140 it's done.

00:44:33.680 But that's more like,

00:44:34.560 I started doing that when I finished,

00:44:36.660 I did this tour that ended in 2019.

00:44:39.380 And when it finished,

00:44:40.320 I was like,

00:44:40.660 I don't want to do music for like a month,

00:44:42.140 but also I want to carry on being creative and do stuff.

00:44:45.000 So I started painting then I learned Italian as well.

00:44:47.860 And that was like a thing I bought a place in Italy and no one,

00:44:52.040 no one speaks English there.

00:44:53.760 So I was like,

00:44:54.140 I have to learn Italian,

00:44:55.540 but those are like the two things that if I wasn't doing music,

00:44:58.380 I'd like to put more time into.

00:45:00.880 And honestly,

00:45:01.700 like discover,

00:45:03.360 I love movies,

00:45:04.580 discovering new things.

00:45:07.000 Yeah.

00:45:07.580 Like movies,

00:45:08.500 like different artists,

00:45:10.260 albums,

00:45:10.640 Will you listen to something or watch something to sometimes put you in like a mood to like create your own music even or to write songs?

00:45:18.420 My creative process is just basically like do it,

00:45:22.220 like just get in and do it.

00:45:24.040 And if it's bad,

00:45:25.880 forget about it and move on.

00:45:27.180 So I've tried to be creative every single day,

00:45:30.020 write a song every single day or two songs every single day and not worry about whether it's good or not.

00:45:35.140 Like not be like,

00:45:36.900 I feel like some people think that like writing,

00:45:40.620 writer's block is a thing where you're like,

00:45:42.640 oh,

00:45:42.800 I can't write songs,

00:45:44.100 but you can write songs.

00:45:44.780 You just can't write good songs.

00:45:45.800 So just like keep writing,

00:45:47.260 get the bad ones out.

00:45:48.340 Exactly.

00:45:48.760 Yeah.

00:45:48.900 So shape of you was written on a day and we wrote four other songs that day that no one's really heard.

00:45:53.600 And shape of you came out of that.

00:45:55.740 And if I hadn't written the four bad songs,

00:45:57.200 I wouldn't have got the one good song.

00:45:58.660 So yeah,

00:45:59.460 just a process of just constantly doing it.

00:46:01.640 But I don't think I've ever really watched.

00:46:03.040 The only movie that I've watched to create something was I did a song for the Hobbit and they,

00:46:09.720 they showed me the movie and then they went,

00:46:12.120 this is the point where the song comes in and your song has to convey this and bring the audience out of the movie.

00:46:17.800 And it was a point where Smaug's going to the big town at the end and he's going to destroy it and cover it in fire and flames and blah,

00:46:25.640 blah,

00:46:25.740 blah.

00:46:25.820 So they were like,

00:46:26.380 we need you this chaotic bit and then a calm bit and you basically taking the audience out of the cinema.

00:46:31.580 So that was the first time I've been like inspired by a movie,

00:46:34.520 I guess.

00:46:35.040 Wow.

00:46:35.300 That's a pretty cool task,

00:46:36.600 huh?

00:46:36.940 Yeah.

00:46:37.140 Really cool.

00:46:37.940 And also in that process,

00:46:39.220 you're essentially working in a creative medium that you don't really know anything about.

00:46:46.640 And you're so excited.

00:46:47.680 Like I was so geeked out to be working with like Peter and Fran and then getting to do the press tour with all of the actors and stuff.

00:46:53.700 And you're suddenly there in a world that you don't really belong in.

00:46:56.860 But it's like,

00:46:58.420 it's like what the reason musicians are obsessed with sports players and the sports players are obsessed with musicians.

00:47:02.780 And it's because each can do something that the other can't do,

00:47:05.960 but there's still like a level of dedication you have to do to get to that point.

00:47:09.300 And I love being on the other side of the coin.

00:47:11.960 I went to my,

00:47:12.540 like went to one of the Celtics games the other day and being like.

00:47:16.240 Boston Celtics.

00:47:17.300 Yeah.

00:47:17.580 Oh yeah.

00:47:17.980 You get in free over there.

00:47:19.200 I'm sure dude.

00:47:20.120 There's no way.

00:47:22.040 They're like,

00:47:22.640 he made it.

00:47:23.700 And no judgment,

00:47:26.780 dude.

00:47:27.280 It's all good,

00:47:28.280 man.

00:47:28.860 If I show up.

00:47:29.660 Yeah.

00:47:30.160 If I show up like at a remedial reading center, 0.99

00:47:32.940 I fucking get in immediately. 0.99

00:47:36.380 Yeah. 0.99

00:47:37.640 Yeah.

00:47:38.240 The Celtics.

00:47:38.720 But,

00:47:38.860 but my point is being on the watching it and I've never really had an appreciation for basketball before.

00:47:45.680 Cause I've never really like,

00:47:46.680 I've been to like a couple of games,

00:47:47.900 but like something clicked on that game and I was like,

00:47:50.020 this is so exciting and they're so skilled.

00:47:53.180 And it's so fast.

00:47:54.620 And like,

00:47:55.780 what I loved about it is in,

00:47:57.180 in football,

00:47:57.680 if you're losing five nil with 10 minutes to go,

00:48:00.740 you've lost.

00:48:01.380 And in basketball,

00:48:02.640 you could be losing like by 20 or 30 points with the last two minutes to go.

00:48:05.960 And it just could go bam,

00:48:07.160 bam,

00:48:07.340 bam,

00:48:07.520 bam,

00:48:07.680 bam.

00:48:07.840 And then when it's like really exciting.

00:48:10.060 Yeah.

00:48:10.460 Who's your,

00:48:10.900 who's your basketball team?

00:48:11.740 Um,

00:48:12.020 basketball.

00:48:13.220 I don't know.

00:48:14.700 I don't know,

00:48:15.540 dude.

00:48:16.060 Actually,

00:48:16.460 I like Caitlin Clark's team.

00:48:17.860 I started following her in college and I'm a,

00:48:20.620 I like,

00:48:21.060 I'll watch her highlights and stuff,

00:48:22.580 you know,

00:48:23.020 she plays for Indiana fever now,

00:48:24.460 but,

00:48:24.780 um,

00:48:25.480 me and Caleb went to a Iowa Hawkeyes game where she broke the record.

00:48:28.820 Wow.

00:48:29.220 Which was pretty cool,

00:48:30.320 dude.

00:48:30.480 I like,

00:48:30.740 I like Iowa a lot.

00:48:32.100 We were pretty high.

00:48:32.720 I like Iowa too,

00:48:34.020 man.

00:48:34.800 You know,

00:48:35.220 in Iowa,

00:48:35.640 I played IndyCar in,

00:48:37.040 in Iowa.

00:48:37.800 Really?

00:48:38.200 Yeah.

00:48:38.480 I remember race or no, 0.99

00:48:39.800 no,

00:48:40.040 I was just playing the gig.

00:48:40.760 I waved the flag.

00:48:41.920 Not,

00:48:42.440 not very well.

00:48:43.580 Um,

00:48:44.140 I remember walking,

00:48:45.080 you bring the union Jack to that and people will get a little T out.

00:48:47.780 I think someone there,

00:48:50.480 as I was walking to stage,

00:48:51.760 someone grabbed my arm and looked at me dead in the eyes.

00:48:53.860 It was like,

00:48:54.180 welcome to God's country,

00:48:55.440 Ed.

00:48:57.700 Oh my God.

00:48:58.920 I loved it.

00:49:00.000 Oh yeah.

00:49:00.500 That sounds like the ghost of high cholesterol found you,

00:49:03.720 dude,

00:49:03.860 like in a Charles Dickens novel or something.

00:49:06.480 Um, 1.00

00:49:07.060 damn. 1.00

00:49:07.600 Yeah. 1.00

00:49:07.780 I'm trying to think,

00:49:08.720 oh yeah.

00:49:09.200 Some,

00:49:09.520 I'm trying to think of,

00:49:10.560 um,

00:49:11.120 yeah.

00:49:11.300 Have you ever gotten asked to go play for like a chic or anything over there?

00:49:14.600 And like a,

00:49:15.140 in like a castle or anything like that?

00:49:17.440 Or where?

00:49:18.080 Like in,

00:49:18.600 um,

00:49:18.820 the desert or anything?

00:49:20.480 Uh,

00:49:21.180 no,

00:49:22.720 uh,

00:49:23.360 probably.

00:49:24.260 Probably.

00:49:24.720 My,

00:49:25.140 yeah,

00:49:27.040 I've,

00:49:27.440 we get private show requests.

00:49:29.260 My thing is like,

00:49:30.040 I never want to feel owned.

00:49:33.360 Like I don't want someone to be like,

00:49:35.240 you do this,

00:49:35.940 you do this.

00:49:36.380 Cause I paid you this.

00:49:37.240 So like,

00:49:37.580 if I'm ever going to do a private show,

00:49:40.600 it's usually for like,

00:49:42.080 it's usually for like a company's end of year party or something.

00:49:45.460 And they're just like,

00:49:46.300 just do a show.

00:49:47.100 Right.

00:49:47.260 And you turn up and you play,

00:49:48.320 play the show.

00:49:48.900 But I would feel weird if someone was like,

00:49:51.400 you come and you sing this song at the time that we tell you to sing it.

00:49:55.040 And you just,

00:49:55.480 I,

00:49:55.680 I,

00:49:56.000 I like touring.

00:49:57.300 I like playing shows.

00:49:58.220 So I do my shows.

00:49:59.960 And if I'm ever going to do a private gig,

00:50:01.300 it's usually someone just saying,

00:50:02.880 can you just do the show that you do there,

00:50:04.580 but in a smaller place is what I would prefer to do.

00:50:07.140 Right.

00:50:07.360 Yeah.

00:50:07.540 Not like,

00:50:08.060 yeah,

00:50:08.160 come perform it in this wet cage.

00:50:10.260 It's six.

00:50:10.800 Yeah.

00:50:11.100 Come and play,

00:50:11.940 come and play a cover of this song.

00:50:15.120 Yeah.

00:50:15.320 Isn't even your song to my daughter while she eats breakfast.

00:50:19.500 Like I'm not that,

00:50:20.720 that ain't me.

00:50:21.460 Yeah.

00:50:21.640 That's like kind of,

00:50:22.520 that's almost a very expensive ASMR.

00:50:24.880 It sounds like as well.

00:50:26.660 Um,

00:50:27.420 but one time I got offered to go to this place in the middle East somewhere.

00:50:32.220 And it was like,

00:50:32.960 like Luda La Harta or somewhere place you hadn't even heard of.

00:50:38.320 Right.

00:50:38.620 So it could have just been in New Jersey or whatever,

00:50:40.740 but they were,

00:50:42.280 and it was like a,

00:50:43.360 there was like a chic and you had to be behind a big plexiglass area.

00:50:48.920 You would come in,

00:50:49.820 perform there.

00:50:50.380 He would be eating there with like 90 of his girlfriends or whatever you would

00:50:54.340 perform.

00:50:55.540 And then, 1.00

00:50:56.340 and then you lie down and he shits on your chest. 1.00

00:50:58.020 They, 0.99

00:50:58.260 there may have been an afters.

00:51:01.800 I'm not sure,

00:51:03.620 but I didn't know,

00:51:04.380 but I didn't read the whole fanflit either.

00:51:06.520 But,

00:51:07.240 um,

00:51:07.660 I do know that they were allowed to ask a few questions at the end and then you

00:51:11.800 got to eat,

00:51:12.520 but you had to stay in this area by yourself through the plexiglass while they

00:51:16.040 all had,

00:51:16.280 and you went,

00:51:16.780 you did it while they had a great time.

00:51:17.720 I didn't go.

00:51:18.620 And what was the,

00:51:19.260 what was the fee for that?

00:51:20.500 The fee was probably $1,500.

00:51:22.460 And what is it like,

00:51:24.720 do you have a private fee?

00:51:26.040 Like if someone goes,

00:51:27.020 come play a bar mitzvah.

00:51:28.860 Yeah.

00:51:29.340 You have a fee.

00:51:30.040 Yeah.

00:51:30.360 Now I would have a fee for sure.

00:51:31.760 Cause it's like,

00:51:32.360 what else do you want to do with your time?

00:51:34.520 Are you already relaxing?

00:51:35.560 Are you going to be missing something that's important?

00:51:37.320 Cause now I have to set up time where I'm relaxing.

00:51:40.860 It's like,

00:51:41.320 I had to set up time to watch baby reindeer.

00:51:43.280 I had to put it on my calendar.

00:51:44.620 Good show.

00:51:45.160 You know,

00:51:45.620 God,

00:51:46.100 it was good.

00:51:47.320 I hope they do it again.

00:51:50.320 You know,

00:51:50.840 I'd hate to,

00:51:51.560 I hate to,

00:51:52.120 for them not to go through it all again,

00:51:53.340 especially the guy kind of went through a lot.

00:51:54.700 Oh,

00:51:54.720 as in do like a sequel show?

00:51:56.260 Yeah.

00:51:56.640 Or just both of them,

00:51:57.840 just figure it out.

00:51:58.640 Didn't they talk about,

00:51:59.440 they are doing a season two and it's like,

00:52:01.240 from the perspective,

00:52:01.880 isn't that like,

00:52:02.400 it's the court case or something like that?

00:52:04.160 Apparently she's like a hair side of the story. 1.00

00:52:06.620 Wow.

00:52:07.300 I can't wait.

00:52:08.620 Well,

00:52:08.840 good.

00:52:09.180 Good.

00:52:09.400 It's balance.

00:52:10.140 Oh yeah.

00:52:10.560 It's very fair.

00:52:11.120 We need balanced news out there because yeah,

00:52:14.140 we,

00:52:14.740 yeah,

00:52:14.900 I love that lady. 1.00

00:52:15.960 That's the crazy thing.

00:52:17.680 You almost start to fall in love with the lady.

00:52:21.080 Hmm.

00:52:21.600 You didn't think?

00:52:22.640 No.

00:52:23.800 Piers.

00:52:24.300 The way she was talking to Piers Morgan.

00:52:27.480 Have you done the Piers Morgan show?

00:52:28.980 You know,

00:52:29.240 he just asked me to do it.

00:52:30.400 You're going to do it?

00:52:30.900 I don't know.

00:52:33.320 I don't know.

00:52:34.120 I don't know enough about,

00:52:35.520 it's hard for me to know what British people are up to,

00:52:38.200 you know,

00:52:38.760 like some cultures you can kind of get a read on them and you're like,

00:52:41.800 what's going on?

00:52:42.920 I think Britain's very direct.

00:52:44.180 I think he'd ask you a lot of very direct questions and you wouldn't,

00:52:47.200 but you don't strike me as the sort of person that like needs to navigate direct questions.

00:52:53.140 So I think you'd be fine.

00:52:54.320 I did his show like 2013 when he was on CNN and I found it a great interview.

00:53:01.040 Yeah.

00:53:01.260 Yeah.

00:53:01.660 You enjoyed it.

00:53:02.240 Yeah.

00:53:02.760 He's like a research guy and he doesn't like,

00:53:06.200 he just asks you the questions that I feel like people would want to hear.

00:53:09.720 I think.

00:53:10.580 Yeah.

00:53:11.500 A hundred percent,

00:53:12.320 man.

00:53:13.040 Do you feel like you'll make different music since you have like a family and stuff now?

00:53:17.160 Does that start to like,

00:53:18.460 I guess it's kind of a silly question,

00:53:20.340 but it's like,

00:53:20.880 I made an album that my fans weren't like over the moon about because I feel like I was in quite a happy point of my life.

00:53:27.640 And so the album didn't have much tension.

00:53:30.680 It was just,

00:53:31.500 I made a record.

00:53:32.780 But yeah,

00:53:34.940 I feel like my,

00:53:36.480 you know,

00:53:36.660 just because I'm married with kids doesn't mean that like you don't have tension in your life.

00:53:40.360 I feel like even more so there's been things in my life that have happened over the past two years.

00:53:44.420 So I think the music that I'm making at the moment is more like the music I was making in my early twenties when there was a lot of tension going on in my life.

00:53:53.080 But you definitely,

00:53:53.540 you go through periods of time,

00:53:54.420 don't you?

00:53:54.640 I'm sure you go through periods of time where you're like,

00:53:56.620 things are good.

00:53:57.440 Yeah.

00:53:57.700 I feel quite settled,

00:53:58.560 quite happy.

00:53:58.980 And then suddenly a bombshell happens and then you have to.

00:54:01.820 Yeah.

00:54:02.000 Yeah.

00:54:02.340 So I feel like that's for me,

00:54:04.760 always creating music.

00:54:05.900 I can see like back on my albums as like a lineage of like,

00:54:09.280 this is where I was at this point.

00:54:10.340 This is where I was at this point.

00:54:11.200 And I feel like if all of the albums sounded the same,

00:54:13.400 it'd be boring.

00:54:14.300 Yeah.

00:54:14.320 You have to evolve in some sort.

00:54:15.840 And it's good to have like,

00:54:17.120 this is the album when I was like the album,

00:54:18.900 when I,

00:54:19.480 I made an album in COVID quite settled,

00:54:21.900 quite happy.

00:54:22.460 We had our first child and yeah,

00:54:24.840 I listened to that now and it's not,

00:54:26.280 there's no like heartbreak songs on it or sad songs or blah.

00:54:29.180 It's just kind of,

00:54:30.020 it is what it is.

00:54:31.120 Yeah. 0.99

00:54:31.640 Cause a lot of times it's like rip my fucking heart out, 0.99

00:54:33.980 Eddie. 0.99

00:54:34.500 Yeah.

00:54:35.140 I think I'm getting back.

00:54:36.600 Okay.

00:54:36.960 Good.

00:54:37.180 On this one.

00:54:37.920 I think,

00:54:38.500 uh,

00:54:39.460 that's what we want,

00:54:40.360 man.

00:54:40.660 But,

00:54:40.900 but this is what you're saying about taking time off.

00:54:42.960 You have to take time off to actually live life.

00:54:44.780 Like if I'm on the road that I think this is another thing why people who get successful

00:54:50.240 early have their age freeze.

00:54:51.380 Cause when I'm,

00:54:51.960 I'm on the road,

00:54:52.580 life does just pause because you like today you wake up on a plane,

00:54:56.660 you fly here,

00:54:57.180 we're doing an interview.

00:54:57.800 You might go out for dinner tonight.

00:54:58.700 You go,

00:54:58.880 there's no like actual real,

00:55:00.240 real life interaction in your actual personal life being lived because you're constantly

00:55:06.380 working.

00:55:07.080 So you'll go back.

00:55:07.820 I always found this,

00:55:08.500 but you'll go back home and you'll press play on your life again.

00:55:11.360 And then you'll be like, 1.00

00:55:11.940 Holy fuck. 1.00

00:55:12.700 So much has happened. 1.00

00:55:13.800 How do I keep up with this?

00:55:15.260 You've your friend who was dating this person is now not dating this person.

00:55:18.440 You've missed that whole thing.

00:55:19.440 Your dad might be going through something.

00:55:20.680 You've missed that whole thing.

00:55:21.700 Like your brother's doing this.

00:55:23.040 It is weird.

00:55:23.700 That's a really great way to say it too.

00:55:25.140 Yeah.

00:55:25.300 It's like,

00:55:25.760 you just put it on pause and you go and do your thing and you come back and you,

00:55:28.220 you press play on you,

00:55:29.100 but it's like the whole world has been pressing play.

00:55:32.540 Yeah.

00:55:33.080 And I think,

00:55:33.580 I think everybody can even relate to that too.

00:55:35.700 I mean,

00:55:35.940 going and touring and that kind of thing is a little separate different because

00:55:39.200 you kind of get taken out of your life almost and then go and then you just

00:55:43.240 drop right back into your life.

00:55:44.480 Okay.

00:55:45.000 Well,

00:55:45.320 like,

00:55:45.940 yeah,

00:55:46.100 even for me,

00:55:46.440 it's like,

00:55:46.680 well,

00:55:46.860 was I dating somebody? 1.00

00:55:48.200 Oh shit. 0.99

00:55:48.660 I never responded. 0.99

00:55:49.620 My sister invited me to this and that thing's over now.

00:55:52.140 And it's like,

00:55:53.080 why?

00:55:53.440 Oh yeah.

00:55:53.800 It's just like,

00:55:54.460 and then you look at old emails or sometimes like your thoughts processes will

00:55:58.060 have changed and things you wanted to do and move forward with three months

00:56:01.460 ago.

00:56:01.740 You're like,

00:56:02.080 ah,

00:56:02.320 that's not the thing I need now.

00:56:04.160 Some things you're glad you didn't move forward with.

00:56:06.040 Some things you're like,

00:56:06.740 oh dang,

00:56:07.260 I missed out.

00:56:07.960 Yeah.

00:56:08.160 Yeah.

00:56:08.320 Yeah.

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00:59:09.100 Did you ever like,

00:59:10.680 dude,

00:59:11.060 I'll notice sometimes like,

00:59:13.000 I get scared to like see people in person

00:59:15.660 because I feel like I'm not going to be able to

00:59:19.140 like live up to whoever they think I am.

00:59:22.780 Does that make sense?

00:59:23.420 Or is it like really egotistical thing to think?

00:59:25.580 Do you think?

00:59:25.840 No,

00:59:26.140 I think especially like the position that you're in

00:59:28.760 and the kind of like cultural significance of who you are

00:59:33.220 and what people perceive you to be.

00:59:35.720 I definitely get that

00:59:36.620 because you might be having an off day

00:59:38.040 and people are like,

00:59:38.920 hey,

00:59:39.480 be the guy.

00:59:40.120 And you're like,

00:59:40.560 right, 1.00

00:59:40.880 fuck off. 1.00

00:59:41.340 Like, 1.00

00:59:41.480 I just want to like chill out.

00:59:43.620 So yeah,

00:59:44.340 definitely.

00:59:44.960 But I think that my way of moving through life

00:59:49.220 is always just be like,

00:59:50.420 always be completely honest of what it is at that point.

00:59:53.780 So I remember being,

00:59:54.560 I'm like,

00:59:55.000 I will usually say yes to photographs.

00:59:57.500 If I'm with my kids,

00:59:58.300 I'm like,

00:59:58.640 look,

00:59:58.820 I'm with my kids.

00:59:59.340 I'm trying to be a dad.

01:00:00.360 But like sometimes if I'm feeling off,

01:00:02.760 like my aunt died

01:00:03.900 and I was at a train station

01:00:05.040 and someone was like being really,

01:00:07.460 you know,

01:00:07.800 like a fan and like,

01:00:09.000 come on.

01:00:09.280 And I was like,

01:00:09.720 my aunt has just died.

01:00:11.640 Please. 0.99

01:00:12.040 I just need a fucking moment. 0.99

01:00:13.320 And if you are honest like that, 0.99

01:00:15.620 people get it.

01:00:16.220 Like no one's,

01:00:16.980 but if I'd have just been like, 1.00

01:00:17.800 fuck off, 1.00

01:00:18.320 like suddenly it's a thing. 1.00

01:00:20.000 But I think honesty throughout,

01:00:21.520 this is what I was saying earlier

01:00:22.440 about just like saying truthful things

01:00:25.040 when they come into your brain.

01:00:26.660 It's people get,

01:00:28.320 people appreciate honesty.

01:00:30.380 Yeah.

01:00:31.280 That's a good point.

01:00:32.000 And maybe they can feel it too.

01:00:33.540 That's always the thing.

01:00:34.340 I think that gets weird as you get older.

01:00:35.960 If you,

01:00:36.100 if you even think about telling a lie,

01:00:37.820 sometimes even a small lie,

01:00:38.960 I'm like,

01:00:39.600 it just feels like it's.

01:00:41.640 The lies.

01:00:42.600 If you tell lots of small lies,

01:00:44.220 then you then have to keep up.

01:00:46.120 Oh yeah.

01:00:46.580 Who did I say this to?

01:00:47.900 And who did I do this?

01:00:48.800 So that's,

01:00:49.380 if you go through life and you're just.

01:00:50.620 Who did I tell I was a mime? 1.00

01:00:51.880 And then you're fucking. 1.00

01:00:54.200 Everybody you meet, 1.00

01:00:55.180 you're like.

01:00:55.960 Now that's it.

01:00:56.740 That,

01:00:57.020 that should be,

01:00:57.720 that should be something that in your spare time,

01:00:59.960 when you're trained to train you to do stuff.

01:01:01.220 If Joe's going to be an artist,

01:01:02.600 you should train to be a mime.

01:01:03.960 I would love to see you be a mime.

01:01:06.520 Fully painted. 0.99

01:01:07.500 Just be fucking great. 0.98

01:01:09.380 And they're always stuck in the smallest apartment. 0.99

01:01:11.500 It's like,

01:01:11.840 first of all,

01:01:12.480 get a better job,

01:01:13.680 you know, 1.00

01:01:14.780 and fucking get out of that rat trap. 1.00

01:01:17.460 That's what I always think about those guys, 1.00

01:01:19.480 but that's a lost art.

01:01:21.060 Isn't it?

01:01:21.700 Miming.

01:01:22.500 Yeah.

01:01:22.820 What else is the lost art?

01:01:24.140 Dude,

01:01:24.320 there used to be a lot of mimes,

01:01:26.760 Ed.

01:01:27.200 Yeah.

01:01:28.760 Look,

01:01:29.240 pull that up,

01:01:29.860 dude.

01:01:30.440 How many mimes were there probably in 2010?

01:01:33.940 Or 2005. 0.99

01:01:35.780 Let's fucking go back. 0.97

01:01:37.560 Since we have access to all this online. 0.98

01:01:42.960 And mimes were some of the first mixed people as well.

01:01:45.760 Nobody wanted to kind of see it like that.

01:01:48.560 I'm not sure there's much records of mimes.

01:01:50.540 Yeah.

01:01:50.760 It's quite a niche subject,

01:01:52.080 Theo.

01:01:52.340 It's quite a like,

01:01:54.100 yeah,

01:01:54.500 this is another thing.

01:01:55.480 When you are trained to be a mime,

01:01:57.020 you got to make the mime archives.

01:01:58.920 Cause then we can rely on you to go.

01:02:02.160 When we Google,

01:02:02.840 we're like,

01:02:03.360 Theo's got us.

01:02:07.080 Isn't it?

01:02:07.880 It's kind of perfect,

01:02:09.140 dude.

01:02:09.200 Niche.

01:02:09.700 Yeah. 1.00

01:02:10.060 Why don't they have a fucking, 1.00

01:02:11.480 first of all, 1.00

01:02:12.040 I'll say this about mimes. 0.96

01:02:13.260 They're lazy.

01:02:15.720 I'll straight up say that right now, 0.90

01:02:18.260 bro.

01:02:18.560 And mimes will magicians are comedians,

01:02:21.600 arch nemesis,

01:02:22.360 right?

01:02:22.600 And that's been since like the beginning of time,

01:02:25.140 dude.

01:02:25.620 But I'll say this also, 0.99

01:02:27.920 mimes can suck it. 1.00

01:02:29.360 I'll go ahead and say that right now, 1.00

01:02:31.560 bro.

01:02:32.200 If you're a mime,

01:02:34.280 dude,

01:02:35.800 bring it,

01:02:36.840 bro.

01:02:36.960 I think the day that you learn to be a mime,

01:02:39.200 you'll actually learn a bit of appreciation for it.

01:02:41.220 You'd be like,

01:02:41.580 actually,

01:02:41.900 this is way harder than I thought.

01:02:43.500 And then you'll be making,

01:02:44.320 you make the mime archive.

01:02:46.160 Yeah.

01:02:46.700 That can be,

01:02:47.160 that can be your side hustle.

01:02:48.680 There should be,

01:02:49.260 who was the most famous mom? 1.00

01:02:50.540 Oh,

01:02:50.720 well,

01:02:50.840 there was Charlie Chaplin,

01:02:52.040 wasn't there?

01:02:52.880 He's British.

01:02:53.860 Marcel Marceau.

01:02:54.820 Marcel Marceau.

01:02:55.700 Was he British?

01:02:56.580 No,

01:02:56.900 I think he's French.

01:02:57.940 Yeah,

01:02:58.420 sure.

01:02:59.340 I'm sure the Brits commandeered him.

01:03:00.940 I'm sure they put a flag on his back at some point and said he was British. 0.96

01:03:08.080 Bip the clown, 0.85

01:03:09.380 his name was.

01:03:10.720 Yeah,

01:03:11.040 yeah,

01:03:11.220 yeah,

01:03:11.380 yeah.

01:03:11.500 Who,

01:03:11.760 Marcel Marceau?

01:03:12.540 Yeah.

01:03:13.200 Let me look a little bit about him.

01:03:15.100 Marcel Marceau.

01:03:15.760 Can you zoom in on that so I can read that there,

01:03:17.220 brother?

01:03:18.040 You go up to the top.

01:03:20.040 Marcel Marceau,

01:03:20.620 22nd of March,

01:03:22.320 he was born.

01:03:23.280 Oh,

01:03:23.400 he lived for a long time.

01:03:26.100 2007 was a French mime artist,

01:03:27.760 actor,

01:03:28.080 most famous for his stage persona,

01:03:29.580 Bip the clown.

01:03:31.140 He referred to mime as the art of silence.

01:03:34.440 You know,

01:03:34.740 Mr.

01:03:35.040 Bean was kind of like that,

01:03:36.140 wasn't he?

01:03:36.500 The honest.

01:03:37.060 Mr.

01:03:37.500 Bean,

01:03:38.040 I think.

01:03:39.120 It's fascinating.

01:03:40.020 Well,

01:03:40.280 it's fascinating because he,

01:03:42.380 uh,

01:03:43.400 essentially every country understands Mr.

01:03:46.620 Bean because there's no talking in it.

01:03:48.660 I heard a rumor that he,

01:03:50.500 uh,

01:03:50.960 when he did the show,

01:03:51.940 it got them to agree to never show it in Italy because he liked holidaying in,

01:03:55.640 in Italy.

01:03:56.560 So that's the one place that I think they had the movie,

01:03:59.680 but they didn't have the TV show.

01:04:01.420 So it wasn't just constant.

01:04:02.820 So you wouldn't remember him as much.

01:04:04.200 Did you ever get to meet him?

01:04:06.080 Uh,

01:04:06.480 there was a period of,

01:04:07.620 uh,

01:04:07.920 he was going to be in a music video for a bit.

01:04:09.460 So we were actually in touch on email and it was,

01:04:13.540 I think the,

01:04:15.560 the,

01:04:15.800 the idea I had was very vague.

01:04:18.260 And I think that was the problem.

01:04:20.080 It wasn't like,

01:04:20.920 this is what it is.

01:04:21.840 This is when it's happening.

01:04:22.640 And it was basically,

01:04:23.500 I was kind of like,

01:04:24.200 would you be interested in this?

01:04:25.220 It might be this.

01:04:25.860 And he was just like,

01:04:27.000 it needs to be more,

01:04:28.220 more solid than that.

01:04:28.940 But we had,

01:04:29.280 we had a good,

01:04:29.960 um,

01:04:30.300 exchange.

01:04:30.860 The guy who I did,

01:04:32.240 did you watch the movie yesterday?

01:04:34.200 Yesterday?

01:04:35.200 No,

01:04:35.560 no.

01:04:36.000 Anyway,

01:04:36.360 the guy that made that movie,

01:04:37.880 um,

01:04:39.180 I'm,

01:04:39.460 I'm in the movie.

01:04:40.220 I put,

01:04:40.460 I play my,

01:04:41.100 myself in,

01:04:42.320 in the movie,

01:04:42.720 but the guy that made that movie,

01:04:43.720 he wrote Notting Hill and Love Actually and Four Weddings and the Funeral.

01:04:47.340 He wrote Mr. Bean.

01:04:48.580 So he's very close with,

01:04:49.940 he wrote,

01:04:50.400 so that was a care.

01:04:51.240 It wasn't just that guy made it up.

01:04:52.720 No.

01:04:53.140 Well,

01:04:53.440 they,

01:04:53.780 they did it together.

01:04:54.720 I think,

01:04:55.160 I think it was a stage show to begin with.

01:04:56.920 So they did,

01:04:57.880 uh,

01:04:58.360 a show called Blackadder,

01:04:59.440 which was,

01:05:00.840 I,

01:05:01.320 I think it's the best British comedy ever.

01:05:03.040 It's basically Blackadder.

01:05:05.040 And it's set in,

01:05:06.400 it's the same characters,

01:05:07.620 but set in different,

01:05:08.760 um,

01:05:10.060 uh,

01:05:10.660 periods of time.

01:05:11.560 So there would be somewhere there in the,

01:05:14.220 is it the Tudor time with,

01:05:16.220 um,

01:05:16.780 and then there's one in the Georgian time.

01:05:18.220 There's one in world war.

01:05:19.800 Blackadder.

01:05:20.300 One.

01:05:20.700 Oh,

01:05:20.860 Mr. Bean's in it.

01:05:21.920 Yeah.

01:05:22.100 He's,

01:05:22.340 he's the main guy.

01:05:22.980 So they did that at first.

01:05:24.180 And then they did,

01:05:25.320 um,

01:05:25.780 then they did Mr. Bean.

01:05:26.760 I need to go back and watch this.

01:05:28.380 Blackadder is like an all time classic.

01:05:31.720 Really,

01:05:32.080 really good.

01:05:32.440 Wow.

01:05:32.700 I watched,

01:05:33.200 they,

01:05:33.400 they do a Christmas Carol and that's my like Christmas routine as I always watch Blackadder Christmas Carol.

01:05:38.520 Oh yeah.

01:05:39.180 Yeah.

01:05:39.360 I watch,

01:05:40.140 um,

01:05:40.560 Family Man.

01:05:41.560 Have you seen that?

01:05:42.620 With Nicolas Cage.

01:05:44.000 Cool.

01:05:44.520 You and the wife should watch it this year.

01:05:45.800 I've got a massive cardboard cast out of Nicolas Cage in my house.

01:05:48.480 Really?

01:05:49.460 Oh,

01:05:49.720 then you'll love it.

01:05:50.340 You should put it up.

01:05:50.920 I watched Mandy.

01:05:51.620 Mandy and was just like,

01:05:52.600 I'm sold.

01:05:54.080 I got to have some of that.

01:05:55.000 Have you seen Mandy? 0.99

01:05:56.120 It's fucking bonkers. 0.99

01:05:57.500 Can you pull up the scene, 0.99

01:05:59.180 um,

01:06:00.000 of him?

01:06:01.080 Just type in,

01:06:01.900 uh,

01:06:02.540 Nicolas Cage,

01:06:03.360 Mandy,

01:06:04.080 toilet scene.

01:06:06.300 Mr. Bean,

01:06:07.340 what a great man.

01:06:09.260 I wonder if his children are loud and he's like,

01:06:11.240 oh,

01:06:11.580 this isn't what I wanted.

01:06:12.540 All right.

01:06:13.720 Yeah.

01:06:14.280 I wonder if his children are loud and he's like,

01:06:17.780 wow it's a great movie yeah god that alone that even just that much of a moment of

01:06:45.220 something that feels so real that is our political system right now in america

01:06:50.400 somebody said that you used to do like open go to comedy mics did you ever uh not for me to do

01:06:58.100 comedy but i used to do it to actually no i did actually i did i um i used to uh play with this

01:07:04.120 um they're an improvisational rap group called abandaman and he was a comedian who rapped and

01:07:10.100 made uh he basically would be like they had a song called what's in your pocket and he would

01:07:14.400 rap about what was in everyone's pockets and make it funny so i played with them for a bit but

01:07:18.820 no for me it was more um the scene that i was a part of was very cliquey and very like the cool

01:07:25.960 kids over here and i was always part of the misfits and uh you would go and play these gigs where

01:07:31.360 everyone on the lineup would have an acoustic guitar and they'd all be singing love songs

01:07:34.940 and i'd just be another one of them just not as good i wasn't i was 17 not 25 i had my songs were

01:07:41.780 very like rudimentary and like not great and i saw uh i found like this guy actually my my best

01:07:47.760 mate jamal ran a uh a youtube channel that was primarily rap and he put me on that channel and

01:07:54.040 then suddenly there was a whole uh a group of people that were like oh we actually quite like

01:07:59.480 this acoustic music so i would turn up at uh hip-hop nights first and grime nights and soul nights and

01:08:04.760 and i would play and i would get a better reaction because it was just different it was something that

01:08:11.100 would stand out whereas i did not stand out in the acoustic scene because it was just the same as

01:08:15.320 everyone oh that's interesting and so and then i started playing comedy night comedy nights poetry

01:08:20.460 nights i would turn up at different things i used to get roasted whilst the toughest gig i ever ever

01:08:26.560 played it was an all black comedy night in um central london called the the sunday show and i was

01:08:32.960 booked for this show and as i was setting up my guitar the guy on stage was roasting me being like 0.96

01:08:37.260 what the fuck is this white kid doing with this tiny guitar and blah blah blah and it was probably 0.91

01:08:42.640 one of the best gigs of my life i got on stage i instantly i instantly went into a rap tune i 0.99

01:08:48.980 dropped this song and this song and this song and the reaction was better than anywhere because i think

01:08:54.640 people were expecting me to fail and because i didn't it was even better and uh yeah and those i think

01:09:01.840 that is what gave me my first bit of success my first buzz the buzz within uh the kind of grime and

01:09:10.560 rap community in in the the uk i think that was the first place i felt welcomed and accepted and

01:09:17.220 celebrated and still and still is like i still feel more love and appreciation from the misfits no from 1.00

01:09:26.300 the from the grime and rap community i yeah in in the uk interesting yeah you know that's such a good

01:09:32.440 idea dude like to take whatever your thing is and put it into go to the space that's different because

01:09:38.980 then you're the different it wasn't to be honest it wasn't like an idea it wasn't like a light bulb

01:09:43.320 moment where i was like but even when you say it though it makes me think like that's it really it's

01:09:47.320 like there's no way you can't help but stand out right so like i think it has to happen organically

01:09:52.060 because i feel like if jamal hadn't put me on his channel and he put me on his channel the sunday

01:09:56.340 show booked me for their comedy night i did that and then whilst at the comedy night it's a very

01:10:00.080 organic thing i think had i just turned up at the sunday show they'd be like yeah and maybe it

01:10:05.980 wouldn't have gone the same way right oh that's a good point that's a good point but you have to

01:10:10.500 change up the environment that you're in and really challenge yourself that's pretty brave yeah i used

01:10:14.600 to do some black shows like predominantly black shows in the states dude it was hard sometimes but when 0.93

01:10:19.380 you killed it you killed it oh you killed it dude yeah and people would stop basically very but i bet 0.95

01:10:26.400 it's either like you kill it or you bomb there's no in between there's no like all right shows and 1.00

01:10:31.340 when you don't do good in front of a black audience as a white guy you feel the pain of hundreds of years 0.98

01:10:37.400 you feel i mean my pain traveled all the way back to england in a boat and and then got off

01:10:48.460 and experienced more pain i was like how much pain is inside of me dude i remember tears coming out of

01:10:56.200 like the inside of my throat and i was like i didn't know i had tear ducts in my is that the worst that

01:11:02.400 you bumped um no i fucking bombed pretty good over the years eddie i um yeah i've had some bad ones 0.98

01:11:10.680 i've had one where you came out it was like a battle of the bands at a school you had to come 0.98

01:11:16.240 out between all the bands they didn't know they just thought you to come out in the beginning

01:11:18.700 they boo me off stage they don't have to go out six more times dude wow and every time it just i feel 0.98

01:11:25.980 like the boot my eyebrows sorry to interrupt you but one time the shit the i was so shocked one of 0.99

01:11:33.680 my fucking eyebrows fell out of my head from um like it's called so it makes you appreciate it 0.98

01:11:40.780 though i feel like anyone that has had success on stage has had to have been booed have things 0.99

01:11:46.900 chucked at them have have moments where the shock the trauma some girls like something on your shirt 1.00

01:11:51.380 and it was my fucking eyebrow dude like i was like oh shit that's fast yeah so that kind of stuff to 0.99

01:12:01.900 not be able to protect your tear ducts from the wind just because you had a bad set dude that's the 0.99

01:12:06.720 kind of shit that people do that we do not need to be going through um yeah i think sometimes the 0.94

01:12:13.380 tough parts are like sometimes i'll drift out of what i'm actually doing when i'm on stage i don't 0.98

01:12:19.800 even know what it is it's not like i'm daydreaming but sometimes you'll just i don't know i'll kind

01:12:24.220 of go on autopilot not because i want to it just sort of happens and you have to drop back in you

01:12:28.640 know i do that sometimes i did that i do it quite regularly on perfect because it's just because i'm

01:12:33.440 not having to think about what i'm doing with with with my feet and occasionally i just drop the second

01:12:37.480 verse by accident and i just kind of come to and i'm like oh i've just just not sung the second

01:12:41.880 verse and the song's now like minute and a half long but you do you get in a there's certain things i'm

01:12:47.520 sure there's certain routines that you just know so well that your mind just sort of wanders yeah

01:12:52.340 and then how do you make them feel new and to surprise yourself too you know and i think it's

01:12:57.020 good every now and then to completely rip up the rule book of what your performance is and just

01:13:01.080 as well yeah that's a good point um do you uh does was being a father something that really kind of

01:13:09.180 like people talk about it all the time that it does so much for him was it as much of a surprise

01:13:13.300 for you it seemed like you had a lot of love in your life with your spouse so it wasn't like a

01:13:17.380 yeah i think it's you just you selfishness ceases to exist i think because suddenly all your decisions

01:13:24.300 are made based on i've got two daughters now and it's made based on what's best for them you know

01:13:29.700 rather than what's best for me or what that's for my wife and that sort of simplifies life in a way

01:13:34.340 because you you there's not as many questions it's just like well what's what's right for these guys

01:13:38.380 and then cool done um but yeah i think you know i was a i was a real party boy like real like i loved

01:13:45.860 getting on it oh yeah in all aspects i got the gear i think i think probably like five years ago me and

01:13:53.020 you would have had a lot of fun together yeah um but i think having kids really really dialed that

01:13:59.100 down i stopped i stopped drinking spirits i stopped like smoking and doing all these you know having

01:14:05.760 wild nights like i i don't think i've seen the sunrise since having kids but obviously you're

01:14:11.660 sober when you see the sunrise with with kids but i don't you know i go to bed at like midnight now

01:14:16.020 even if i'm having i drink wine and i drink like one or two beers um and that's my vice i guess

01:14:23.400 we have to be a proper parent you have you have to be a parent you have to be a leader

01:14:27.240 or whatever you have to or you have to feed this when it wakes up yeah you know totally yeah i think

01:14:33.560 um it's like being in college a bit with like a roommate that can't cook or whatever and you're

01:14:37.880 like do you know do you know what i see it as it's your drunk mate at college that you need to get

01:14:44.160 home from the bar and you're feeding them bread constantly and water it's kind of that and they

01:14:49.100 sort of fall asleep it's kind of like that you're sort of waking them up like feeding bread and stuff

01:14:54.800 like that and then they sort of falling asleep in their chair it's kind of like that dude one time

01:14:58.260 i got in a taxi to leave a bar when i was in charleston i used to live in charleston and i forgot

01:15:03.780 to i guess i was drunk i just passed out the guy drove around dude he drove like 190 dollars worth

01:15:09.340 i finally fucking wake up dude he's just driving bro and we're like still like about 12 minutes from 0.92

01:15:16.200 my house so i get home i owed him like 220 dude it took me like two weeks to pay that guy jesus 0.93

01:15:21.720 god man just things like that that i just don't miss about sometimes just being wasted dude or

01:15:29.260 hiding out in somebody's yard conversations now like if you're having a conversation with your mate 0.89

01:15:35.720 and you're sober it's more like yeah i find i don't waste time in bullshit like i'm not out at 0.96

01:15:42.260 want you know like in the we out but shit doesn't get as weird either you're not you know i feel like 0.93

01:15:47.180 i i say it in one of my songs but i feel like past 2 a.m it's like nothing's happening you're like 0.57

01:15:53.960 all sitting around a screen watching youtube videos and like chatting about the youtube videos

01:15:59.000 whereas i think like i feel like my my friends call me the sparkler because i shine bright for a

01:16:05.060 very short period of time so i'll go out at eight and i'll be home at 11 but in those three hours like

01:16:09.600 i'll have fun yeah oh that's a good guy to be yeah i'm gonna start working on that i'm gonna save up

01:16:16.940 all my good stuff for eight to eleven eight till eleven is a great time as well and then you're

01:16:22.580 in bed by midnight i usually get up at like 5 a.m and anyway so you're like in bed by midnight and

01:16:27.560 then you're fresh ish in the morning your workout guy yeah i like to work out man yeah it's fun

01:16:32.920 nothing too crazy but i do like it but like every morning you'll do a bit of exercise yeah four days

01:16:37.300 a week i'll work out cool pretty swell i like doing the sauna yeah yeah ice bath and i like doing the

01:16:42.580 ice bath man i don't know if they work or not but they tricked me into believing they do for me it's

01:16:47.760 less i like i don't mind if they work or not but it gets my cool body temperature down i'm a big

01:16:53.260 sweater are you really yeah yeah i sweat like if i'm on stage i just drip drip you're just leaking

01:17:00.040 huh yeah i well i think it's i think there's something in the the irish blood where i heat just

01:17:05.680 does not agree with me you know and uh because you brought your own heat 0.99

01:17:09.440 of course the sun would be like who the fuck is this 0.98

01:17:14.560 you know what i'm saying stepping on my turf right here but if i go in a sauna i'll usually be sweating 0.97

01:17:23.640 for like three four hours off so getting in an ice bath almost it's kind of like uh quarter

01:17:28.720 cauterizing a wound you just yeah it's done yeah i like dude ireland was so i never had seen i did i

01:17:35.440 grew up in new orleans right in that area in louisiana like marty grub people being drunk right

01:17:40.820 i never said it's a different thing of drunkenness it's just in the it's like people we went into a

01:17:48.520 bar it's people in there there's no furniture right just people holding each other up i think drinking

01:17:54.440 it's like you can't even let the guy stop they won't fucking let dude i remember we're in the bar 0.94

01:18:00.560 outside of the bar they built another bar around the exit door you open the exit to the bar 0.72

01:18:05.280 you're in another fucking bar dude but drinking culture here is different than um uh america like 0.91

01:18:10.680 we would like i found when i lived in nashville it was like sports bars you go to a sports bar 0.99

01:18:17.460 uh to watch a game to drink yeah and you would see people there on their own drinking a huge vodka

01:18:23.820 tonic just like i'm here to get fucking drunk there's irish bars on the motorway in america i'm like 0.96

01:18:29.020 who the fuck is driving to an irish but so but here if i'm like for instance i saw my best mate 0.98

01:18:37.160 nick yesterday and i was like oh let's go out for a couple of pints and we would go out and we caught 0.97

01:18:41.340 up and we had three pints of beer and then that was it and that it's our culture here is very much

01:18:48.120 built around i would you know i'm i'm generalizing not not everyone loves drinking but i would say like

01:18:54.480 80 percent of the people in england love a beer every now and then or so and you would go out and

01:18:59.300 instead of getting shit canned every time you go out you know like i would go to these sports bars 0.78

01:19:03.800 and it would basically be like everyone in in the sports bar in america would be going with the sole 0.94

01:19:08.440 purpose to be dribbly drunk by the end of the night taken home in in an uber whereas in in england

01:19:13.760 it's very much and and ireland and scotland and wales it's a regular with my friendship group

01:19:20.320 anyway a regular um thing to have maybe like one or two pints at the end of a work day and then

01:19:26.780 maybe on a friday you'll have like six pints and a bottle of wine you'll go out and do the shots and

01:19:31.460 and and blah blah blah but it's far more um just part of the culture to do it regularly yeah yeah it

01:19:38.040 seems like they wear it better here it's not it's not alcohol it's not alcoholism to drink every day

01:19:43.520 here whereas in america if you drunk every day it'd be alcohol alcoholism because i've obviously people

01:19:48.240 take it too far here as well but the general thing i think is am i right in saying that lads like you

01:19:53.860 would go out for a couple of pints after this and it wouldn't be like well i think we we treat every

01:19:57.680 event with beer yeah oh you're sad have a beer are you happy have a beer yeah is it a wedding have a

01:20:03.400 beer is it a funeral have a beer yeah everything but it's not alcoholism it's the culture it's just

01:20:09.000 the culture it's not like i wake up every morning and i'm like i need a beer tonight it's like you get to

01:20:14.120 the end of the day and your mate will be like oh i'm in central london do you want to go for a beer

01:20:18.280 rather than like i need a beer it just right yeah yeah that's interesting dude because a lot like

01:20:24.220 by by the definition of alcoholism i mean everybody can decide for themselves if they're an alcoholic

01:20:29.660 that's one thing i know about that program like you have to decide like there can be like the rules

01:20:34.740 that kind of help you decide but it's a personal decision right but yeah people would look at a lot of

01:20:39.940 people in ireland and be like oh everybody everybody here is an alcoholic nine out of ten

01:20:44.480 people um even some people in comas or whatever drinking you're like that's new um but yeah but

01:20:54.220 like that but it's not the same because i think it's a misconception oh i agree i when you say that

01:20:59.240 it's like because i don't i i actually don't like the uh the culture of like people viewing ireland as

01:21:06.460 like an alcoholic country it's like it's not it they they you know we can have a good time

01:21:13.020 but it's not like uh i don't know it's the same same in in in england like it's it's just the

01:21:20.220 culture yeah i agree yeah but they're good germany's the same it surprises me how good at it they are

01:21:25.540 i think that's what surprised me just that like practice wow so we drink from a very young age

01:21:30.900 uh irresponsibly or responsibly but like i had my first beer when i was like 12 13 and you learn

01:21:37.800 how to um manage your alcohol by the age of 16 you know if i drink this many cans of strongbow

01:21:45.300 i'm probably going to throw up so i'll drink this many cans of strongbow whereas i think

01:21:49.020 in america it's very much like 17 18 19 maybe it's even just getting to college for the first time

01:21:54.080 where you're then finding out what your boundaries are yeah france they start drinking wine from like

01:21:58.780 five oh god they give they give tiny glass of wine uh to their kids and it makes them respect

01:22:04.120 alcohol by i'd watch that online if they had that

01:22:08.320 to be honest no judgment or anything and i don't know any of the children but

01:22:15.300 um and i wouldn't want to know any of them but i would watch them drink a little bit of wine dude

01:22:21.240 just especially you can't you know do anything bad to the screen or whatever there's a youtube video i

01:22:26.160 actually wanted to do it for one of my songs uh bloodstream was to have a video of compilations

01:22:29.820 of babies trying lemons get up get up babies trying lemons for the first time here we go

01:22:35.120 this is so good

01:22:37.020 oh whoa whoa he couldn't handle it

01:22:56.700 anyway we're good we're good we're good oh that's remarkable do you think about like

01:23:04.840 like what else you want to do in life yeah or just like yeah do you start thinking about like oh what's

01:23:11.480 something new you want to do getting to do that movie thing sounded really cool to me i'm gonna

01:23:14.680 segue into um i've been doing probably for the last seven years stuff with music in high schools

01:23:22.460 because the in my area so it basically when i in like 2017 2018 my old music teacher came to me and

01:23:29.940 he was like look the government is currently in charge do not value art at all like arts drama

01:23:36.580 music and they cut all the funding for comprehensive oh my god so my music teacher came to me and he was

01:23:43.320 like look we're going i think they had to share like between art music and drama like 700 pounds per

01:23:48.040 year like for all three subjects so i started funding that at my local high school and then

01:23:54.360 you see a like massive uptick in like kids doing production kids doing songwriting kids doing this

01:23:59.960 so then i just started keep putting it i built a recording studio there there's like loads of like

01:24:05.860 proper instruments that aren't aren't broken and you just see the school getting better at music so

01:24:11.260 then i started doing that in the county that i'm from and we've just now changed it to do it

01:24:16.420 nationwide and i'm now visiting more high schools and places uh that really need music funding and

01:24:25.220 you see what a difference it makes too because i'm not i'm not an academic person and in the real

01:24:31.300 world i would be viewed as stupid but i've excelled at music and therefore people think that i'm good

01:24:37.820 at something and so i found it massively helpful to be in a state-funded school that really encouraged

01:24:44.700 that and they've basically cut funding in england for it so i'm doing what i can to get funding for

01:24:51.880 it but i think getting the government the new government will be better at it i think oh that's

01:24:57.360 remarkable but the uh the thing that like that's kind of what i want to segue into is music education

01:25:03.600 because it worked so well for me and i know it can work so well for other kids i'm kind of like

01:25:08.260 proof that normal kids can just pick up guitars work hard and and and and do and our our country

01:25:15.780 as well like what we're famous for is our art we're famous for music with the beatles we're famous for

01:25:21.960 painting damien hirst we're famous for movies you've got like danny boyle coming out of here

01:25:25.940 christopher nolan and uh the government is just putting importance on maths and banking and you know we

01:25:34.520 make arms but no one is no one is proud that we make arms and no one is proud that our banking's

01:25:40.260 really good but they are proud of our art and so for a government to be like the art doesn't matter

01:25:45.720 like where do you think the art's going to come from so i think that that for me is the next part

01:25:50.520 of my career is getting a proper proper proper funding and art music drama back into schools and

01:25:58.240 actually ireland do a very good job of it ireland are very very pro their arts because they know that

01:26:03.560 that's their cultural currency you know you two travel the world and they and they see that

01:26:07.840 bernshees of inner shearing comes out everyone goes to watch that movie and um they're they

01:26:13.060 ireland are very very good at recognizing that and funding there's lots of uh irish

01:26:18.120 there's tons of pride there too still because people travel around the world as irish superstars

01:26:24.280 in all aspects and they spread people are like oh ireland's awesome because so-and-so comes from

01:26:29.860 ireland so-and-so comes from ireland and it's the same in in in england like british music there's

01:26:34.300 adele there's harry styles there's stormzy there's me there's like that musicians travel the world and

01:26:38.720 we people are like oh that's a that's a british musician or that's a uh you know british artist

01:26:43.080 or a british actor or actress and that's what we as a country are proud of yeah we're proud of our

01:26:49.580 football as well but in in terms of like art um and it's so weird that no importance is being put

01:26:56.480 on it it's not even that the importance isn't being put on it it's like completely stripping

01:27:00.240 the importance of it and just being like this doesn't matter but i'm sorry to get all no but

01:27:04.540 when you when you kill that in a culture it's it's horrible man even like you said like when you said

01:27:09.120 earlier about like going to that nba game right you don't realize till you sit there at the front

01:27:13.420 row or until you get close to something how important it is how important it is or what are you

01:27:18.280 if you could even be good at it like i remember stand-up comedy i'd seen it like videos people had

01:27:23.680 like um dvds would get passed around the neighborhood like chris rock and stuff like

01:27:28.320 that and i'm like oh this is cool but until i was in college and actually went to a show

01:27:32.320 not then until that moment did it hit me like this is what i could do that this is even a thing that

01:27:38.500 you could do like just seeing it on a on a screen it just didn't it didn't really but am i right to

01:27:45.660 assume that in school you would probably be like i don't know what i want to do what am i good at i'm

01:27:49.740 not very good at history i'm not very good at english i'm not very good at this and then suddenly

01:27:52.560 you find comedy and you go this is something that i can really excel at and i think unless you give

01:27:57.880 kids that opportunity and and also i feel like you can destroy a kid's confidence at age 12 by just

01:28:05.900 being like yeah you're not very good at that and if you give a kid i was given confidence by

01:28:11.220 my my music teacher by my dad by my friends when i wasn't very good at all i listened back to the

01:28:16.640 music that i was making when i was like 14 my friends were nice yeah i listen back and i go i go

01:28:21.980 fucking hell my dad was not honest at all because he was just like this is great and my confidence

01:28:27.540 was built and it's got to a point where i then was like i'm going to release my first single and i'm 0.98

01:28:32.560 going to make a music video and then that was the song that got successful and had i been like oh i

01:28:37.160 don't know what i'm going to think about that i think that's also like changing the culture of that

01:28:41.420 of like like i went up to uh sheffield um the other day to um do a couple of school and and and music

01:28:48.640 uh course visits and they were amazing like way better than i was at at at 14 and i feel like all

01:28:55.580 it takes is for someone to be like you're really really good at this and then they go oh well then

01:28:59.400 i should carry it on yeah and um well having the equipment like you're saying like putting that

01:29:03.360 equipment in at schools dude that's so cool because um if you have a camera and you have a like a

01:29:08.980 podcast setup or something you can record something you can see how it looks the second you do that

01:29:14.140 one step now you're in a whole new purview or whatever yeah and then like now what's possible

01:29:20.200 it's like but until you do your first stand-up show as well yeah your first show and you go right well

01:29:25.120 i've done one wasn't that good i'll go and do it again i'll make it better and then it just

01:29:28.280 improves yeah you don't know what part of you wants to do until you like it's almost like a metal

01:29:33.980 detector you're like a metal detector and until you kind of go over that little whatever that

01:29:38.880 is in the in something inside you kind of goes off you know well because all you need to do that

01:29:43.640 that's the thing as well that i say to kids i'm like you only need one thing that you're good at

01:29:47.680 you just find the one thing that you enjoy that you're good at and you just work really hard at

01:29:51.700 that and then it will work you go like the music industry is if you want to work in the music industry

01:29:57.940 you can like i was uh the day that i made it in my mind was i was gigging around gigging around not

01:30:05.420 getting paid i got booked for a wedding and i played this wedding for like 200 pounds and i

01:30:09.920 remember getting that 200 pounds cash and being like oh my god this is half my rent for playing

01:30:15.820 a gig looks like we made exactly and in my mind then i was like i could just play weddings for the

01:30:20.800 rest of my life and i'm fine i can do music and it's about finding the you know me getting 200 pounds

01:30:27.260 for playing covers at a wedding isn't me playing wembley stadium and making my albums and stuff like

01:30:31.520 that so it's not necessarily the dream but it is doing music as a career so you can find if you 0.94

01:30:39.100 said tomorrow like right i want to be a chocolate taster and i'm going to be the best fucking chocolate 0.90

01:30:44.200 taster you could potentially make that a career if you just worked harder than other chocolate 0.88

01:30:49.300 tasters or gamer or i don't know especially in the uk yeah willie wonka's from here

01:30:53.460 he is right did you ever meet him willie wonka uh no did i meet did tim i think i might have met

01:31:06.100 timothy chalamet somebody must have i'm sure i'm sure i'm sure someone's met him eventually yeah 0.83

01:31:11.360 fuck lucky that's the kind of people that you just some people you don't get to meet 0.92

01:31:16.360 you know some people the government hides them um what about the queen or anything can you text her 0.99

01:31:23.540 or whatever well she's dead well oh oh the new queen oh is there a new one they get a new one sorry

01:31:30.320 um i didn't know and i'm sorry that she's deceased too i did not she died in 2022 um oh yeah and then

01:31:37.520 king charles is now the king i did like her jubilee i played her gig and there's an amazing picture of

01:31:43.700 her shaking my hand and smiling oh and people are like oh she was pleased to meet you and actually

01:31:49.880 a comedian had just told her a joke so it looks like she's really happy to meet me but she had

01:31:54.300 no idea who i was at all but the picture says a thousand words there you go yeah do the queen do

01:32:00.420 the royal people what are they do what is it really like over there when you go over there

01:32:05.220 i don't think it's i don't envy it at all i don't i wouldn't want to live that lifestyle i i remember

01:32:12.460 being in japan once for the rugby world cup and i met one of them and he was like you know he's

01:32:19.640 six seven years older than me and he was like this is my first time in japan and in my mind i'm like

01:32:24.180 i would have just assumed that you go everywhere all the time but i think it's very much like it's

01:32:29.200 a working job they go and open hospitals open care centers go and do this go and do this and it's

01:32:33.820 it's uh i wouldn't envy the lifestyle at all i think it's it is quite restrictive i don't think

01:32:39.180 you can just be like i'm gonna go do this i think like have you seen the crown the show

01:32:42.980 because like even when they go on holiday they go on holiday and they have to do like a press shoot

01:32:47.720 before the holiday and then people just take photos of them for the whole holiday because it's kind of

01:32:52.220 like you allow because you are funded by the public the public own your life yeah it's got to feel we are

01:32:58.600 didn't yeah so it's not something that i would necessarily envy it's something that it's a big

01:33:03.740 debate in this country whether people agree with it or not i personally like think it gives a certain

01:33:09.360 like grounding for the there's like a historical aspect of it and when things happen it's like

01:33:15.760 americans love seeing the ceremony that's that's there's over here like when the queen passed away

01:33:19.460 the the funeral is like very impressive and it very much uh um i don't know represents england for

01:33:28.400 the world you know england look at it yeah because i think england is something there there are a lot

01:33:32.160 great things it's like very proper and it's like there's a lot of things that i would not agree with

01:33:36.300 as well i think it is very like it's rigid almost it's a very polarizing subject um but yeah but i

01:33:43.980 i definitely wouldn't envy the lifestyle yeah oh yeah it seems like it would be tough like you're such

01:33:49.460 a con and you have to be a concierge to the your own country and you have to be such a representative

01:33:54.080 never talk about anything negatively their thing they say never complain never explain so anything that

01:34:00.900 happens they just right you're just a middleman yeah you can't show any emotion like even at like

01:34:06.220 funerals and stuff like you're not meant to cry and stuff it's like really quite hardcore oh yeah

01:34:12.900 gosh i remember my first funeral dude not fun are they i was not good at funerals no i was the i feel

01:34:21.580 like they're then then needed to mark it though i missed my grandmother's funeral i was doing did you

01:34:27.940 see that court case last year that i was in you know about that i was in a court case last year

01:34:32.060 and we all my friends are criminals to be honest with you she died at the start of the court case

01:34:38.000 and the and the um funeral was like midway through it because she had to be buried um and you couldn't

01:34:44.020 go i couldn't and i i still feel weird about it that there was no marking of the like you know

01:34:50.240 seeing a coffin be put into a grave and covered and i don't know there's something in me that's like

01:34:56.180 even like visiting her grave now there's not it still feels like an open book yeah open door i

01:35:02.620 guess i think funerals are important for the ceremony of like marking it it's kind of like the

01:35:06.840 first day of grief as well because before you go to a funeral there's like a weird month or whatever

01:35:13.660 where everything's like really fucking intense and grief-stricken and then kind of the funeral is 0.69

01:35:18.240 the day that you go now we start processing it yeah yeah yeah it is kind of wild dude does any

01:35:24.420 your music get played at funerals too or not yeah i've got a song that i wrote about my grandmother

01:35:28.260 called supermarket flowers which um is a popular funeral song if if that's like a thing to be proud

01:35:34.980 of like i've got a popular funeral song but yeah it's such an important it's a song that it's a it's

01:35:39.320 a moment that people don't think of that much that needs a song kind of in a way maybe or i don't know

01:35:43.440 maybe as a songwriter maybe people do think about specific moments that need songs but i definitely do

01:35:47.980 like i definitely know what i would have at my funeral same as i would have at my wedding you

01:35:54.060 know you'd know you'd know what what tunes you want there's a uh irish folk song which is like

01:36:00.640 always the final song that is sung on a folk night which is called the parting glass where it's like

01:36:05.720 um the pogues or no no it's like traditional it's like uh it's uh of all the money that i had

01:36:14.780 i spent it in good company and all the harm that i had done alas it was to none but me and it's

01:36:24.500 basically like all of the things i did um and all i've done for want of wit to memory now i can't

01:36:32.620 recall so fill to me the parting glass good night and joy be with you all it's basically the last drink

01:36:41.400 of the night this is uh i sort of weird that i just sung on but no but there's a farewell but yeah

01:36:48.740 it's a um the last drink of the night and it's basically everything that's happened it's happened

01:36:53.720 and let's have this final drink and then get on with our lives and i think that's quite a nice way

01:36:57.960 to like go out of this world basically being like of all the of all the comrades that ever i've had

01:37:03.840 i uh i'm i'm sorry that i'm going away you know like it's like a it's just a message to people i

01:37:09.200 like it no man i appreciate you sharing that too yeah it's nice it's nice man that you from

01:37:14.680 everyone that's ever spoken about you i've heard you always seem like a person that just shares the

01:37:18.260 gift of who you are with the world as clearly as you know how to and navigate that the best you can

01:37:23.800 man so i appreciate you singing that's nice dude and yeah and i appreciate you spending time with me

01:37:27.620 man thank you yeah thanks for coming as well man i really really have enjoyed i feel bad that i call

01:37:32.380 that i referenced the term ginger and i feel bad that i mispronounced the name of this place man

01:37:37.440 oh that's all i i thought you were doing it on uh purpose okay i was all good no no the ginger

01:37:42.220 and i wasn't the ginger thing i'm actually like i'm i have a good sense of humor so i'm fun with

01:37:47.340 being uh yeah i just shouldn't have said it though no but i'm like my my my point is if if it's if

01:37:53.360 this is on limits then you know other things should be too yeah you know it shouldn't be the only

01:37:58.800 thing that's on limits oh i agree brother and let me tell you this we're turning on all the limits

01:38:05.300 one time we'll get you out to a live show and turn on all the limits um i hope you make a million

01:38:12.320 more wonderful songs and um and just uh keep blessing us with your gifts uh thank you so much

01:38:17.400 ed sheeran nice one thank you cheers man now i'm just falling on the breeze and i feel i'm falling

01:38:23.540 like these leaves i must be cornerstone

01:38:28.240 oh but when i reach that ground i'll share this peace of mind i found i can feel it in my bones

01:38:39.100 but it's gonna tell you

01:38:42.120 you

This Past Weekend with Theo Von - June 25, 2024

E512 Ed Sheeran

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