E519 Pauly Shore
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1 hour and 50 minutes
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206.4311
Summary
Comedian and actor Pauly Shore stopped by to talk about his new movie, Encino Man, and his life growing up in the late 80s and early 90s in Los Angeles. He also reminisced about his time growing up idolizing the late great singer-songwriter Tommy Lee.
Transcript
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Today's guest has been in comedy since birth, pretty much.
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He's a comedian, he's a comedian, he's an actor, he's an entertainer.
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You know him from his famed movies Encino Man and his podcast variety show on YouTube,
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You can see him live on tour throughout the rest of the year.
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I'm really thankful to spend time with him today.
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I mean, the fact that he's still alive, those guys, dude.
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I mean, he fucking, dude, he fucking ran hard, bro.
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You probably partied with a lot of those guys, huh?
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Because I was thinking about, you're the rat, right?
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You know, I was coming here, and I've known you for a long time.
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You know, and I always say this to comedians that are doing really well.
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I mean, Tony Hinchcliffe now, and different guys like yourself.
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And I'm not just saying this to get on your dick or any of that shit.
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And I've said that to you before, and I know how hard it is.
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and I see all these people that you're playing in front of,
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and I'm very, very happy for you because it's fucking awesome.
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I mean, it's fucking like, you know, it's pretty cool.
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You always have something kind of supportive to say or inquire when I see you.
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Dude, when you said, yeah, you have a tough time letting love in, that's true, huh?
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Because, yeah, women like us, most women like us because we've been on TV and movies
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I love the squirrely rat, whatever your fucking shit is on the stage.
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But then after that, you're a human being and you're a person with a brain, a heart,
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And at the end of the day, you don't know if they're liking you for the rat.
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And I've actually, we did this, I'm thinking about getting like a half inch extension on
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I don't think it's hard for me to notice who is appropriate for me to love, but I think
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it's hard for me to feel like, it's just somebody could sit there and tell you, man, I really
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And I'd be like, all right, buddy, let's keep it.
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I think that once people get over the fact that you're who, you know, the celebrity
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and all that stuff, then you're stuck with you as a human.
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And then at the end of the day, like, that's really what it's about.
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Well, I think sometimes this is interesting, Pauly.
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And I think it's like, well, sometimes I wonder if like by getting some pop, by creating
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a life or aiming for some level of popularity, if you're really trying to create.
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An ambiance or create something between you and other people that gives you a barrier.
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Because they see the persona and they think that you're the persona.
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Like I'll create it so you never even have to know the real me.
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Because what happened was is about three months ago, I met this girl on the road.
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And she wouldn't have sex with me unless I put on my chaps and I put in my hair because
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So in order for me to have sex with her, guess what I had to do?
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And then I had to go like do all this shit like that.
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And then once I orgasm, then I take the shit off and I left.
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I wound up at Waffle House by myself at the end of the night crying with a fucking tear.
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I think if you have to dress up to have sex, it's probably going to get, yeah, I would
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And I'm here to, and I'm happy to see you today.
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I saw Kid Rock on this right here and I have something to fucking say to you, motherfucking
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First of all, don't disrespect Theo Vaughn the whole time you're wearing this and fucking
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You come to LA, you got to show your pretty face.
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Did you ever, where was the first time you met him?
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No, I used to go on tour with this guy when he had his little, his little, the little,
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No, Uncle Cracker does perform with him sometimes, but Uncle Cracker is on tour right now, I think,
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He was like in the mini, he was partying with like mini me and like, you know, that whole
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People would call him because he would do like a lot of pills.
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So what happened, so the first time I met JC and Kid Rock and all this stuff, it was fucking
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Have your guy pull up Conan O'Brien, Limp Bizkit, I think it was late 90s, Pauly Shore, Kid
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So I'm with Fred, because this is when Fred started on MTV.
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I was going through this kind of transition part.
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It's kind of when I did my movie Pauly Shore is Dead.
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I know that Tommy Lee was on here recently, who was in Pauly Shore is Dead.
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And we went to Conan O'Brien, and Fred was performing, I think it was Faith.
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You know, he was the George Michael song, Faith, off of one of his albums.
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And me and Kid Rock went with Fred, and we're in the fucking background on Conan O'Brien.
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Look at, there's, wait, and look at Kid Rock in the corner, wait.
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And I gotta think it twice before I get you out of the way.
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I was in Lake Michigan for this last 4th of July.
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Because I was born and raised in LA around the store.
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And right there in West Hollywood and shit my whole life.
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And this last 4th of July, I'm like, I don't want to be in Vegas.
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I want to go out there on the fucking, on Lake Michigan.
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You don't want to piss on a big girl's back out there.
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Yeah, and I got an Airbnb right on the water with my friends.
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And I played at a club there, a small little bar.
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But I did like five nights there and it was great.
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When you were a kid, like, I mean, you famously, you grew up around the comedy store.
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Your mother was the owner and your father was the owner.
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Well, my dad, Sammy Shore, the late, great Sammy Shore.
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And we would talk sometimes about, this is interesting.
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He wanted to make, like, a show about dogs, right?
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And so, he would call every now and then, and we would talk about this show about dogs.
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Not only was she a great, you know, developing the comedians and artistic and all that stuff,
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She was not, like, weird or, like, just because she was busy at the comedy store, she went there
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She was a natural mom, but my father, you know, he started the store.
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You know, he started, there it is, Funny Bones.
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Yeah, but he started the store because he needed a place to work out his stand-up, kind of like
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You know, Joe was like, he's like, I need a place to work out.
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I go out to the mothership and I have a club, so that was kind of his vibe.
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Do you see that when you go to the mothership now?
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Do you feel some of that same energy almost in a weird way?
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I mean, he's got Bar Mitzi's and all that stuff.
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And Joe's, you know, it's weird when I see the guy, I start crying.
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There's like an emotional connection that I have with him.
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When I'm talking with Joey Diaz, sometimes that happens with me.
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It's like, it just like, I don't know, I'll think some things about his life or something
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and I'll, I don't know what it is, but my eyes will well up, you know?
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And I tell him, I'm like, don't leave the mothership.
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Because, you know, he wants to make it like Dave Lucas and fucking, and Cam and Montgomery
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and all these guys that are, you know, that were on Tony.
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So if there's anyone out there that wants to see a crazy motherfucking comedian, Brian
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Holtzman is fucking awesome from the mothership.
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This is one of my favorite Brian Holtzman stories.
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So when Jeff, Piano Jeff, died of COVID or HIV, right?
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And if you don't know him, Jeff Scott, bring up a picture of him.
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And yeah, and he was always partying and just, you know, he was always, you know, too
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Well, no, I wasn't saying party pills, like HIV pills.
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I was always, yeah, he always had like a fistful of HIV pills.
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You know, the kind that Magic Johnson has, I'm sure.
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Because I think, yeah, the Lakers sponsor them now.
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And this was, he had to take 20 pills a day, he said right there.
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But, so, they had a call during COVID where it was a funeral.
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And so, we're on there and people are crying and, you know, Whitney was, like, wearing a
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kimono and wandering around her mansion or whatever, you know?
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And, like, just, there was 75 people on there and his, Jeff's sister was on there and she
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And people are, everybody would die laughing, bro.
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Just, Holton would just throw in these, like, it was a pure comedy set and it was just one
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of, like, it was that thing where it's, like, laugh at the pain, you know?
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But, yeah, it's great to see him thriving over there.
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Yeah, his style is, you know, it's an acquired taste.
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You know, he does a lot of these videos where he'll film people leaving his show.
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It's fucking hilarious because there's a lot of people that leave his show.
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So they film it and they're like, people are like, that guy's fucking disgusting.
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Put one of those videos up where Holtzman just clears a room.
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I mean, the guy's, Jeff's sister was crying and he put that in.
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He's pretty, he's pretty, he's, pretty, he's, you, you want, you, you, he's, he's, he's what?
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That guy is, look at, like, he's self, like, he's too much.
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And at the 40-ish group, everyone's paying the bills now.
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I mean, it's basically, he walks a lot of people.
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But anyways, but it's a good time for comedy, man.
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When I was growing up, you know, it was five guys that were selling out the rooms that you
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You had Dice, you had Eddie Murphy, like three or four other guys.
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When you walk out on the stage, it's like fucking, what, 20,000 people?
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The thing is with you and I, because we're similar in a way, like we go out on the road
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And, you know, and we know, and you know, I know, and everyone else knows, the reason
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why people are paying for the tickets is for us.
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But at the end of the day, you got to take care of your guys and you also, they're there
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So you got to give them a little extra shekels for that.
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And I pay for everything and I, you know, I take care of my guys because, you know,
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at the end of the day, we're lonely guys, me and you.
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I mean, let's be honest, you know, and if they weren't there, you'd have some local
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opening for you and then you wouldn't be able to be with your homie.
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It's like, you think like, okay, I want to just, yeah, your opener has almost become
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You know, like just sitting before you go on and you feel like you, those are your real
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And then obviously you're giving them stage time and they're making some money.
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But at the end of the day, we're fucking, we're broken wings, dude.
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If your mom was pretty attentive and she was really kind of there, what do you think kind
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of made you that, made, turned you into the comedian, you think?
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I mean, I've always loved making people laugh, you know what I mean?
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I mean, it started with Richard Pryor and Robin Williams and all those guys, because back
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in the day, I talk about this on my one-man show.
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I have a one-man show that your dude told me he saw.
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It's all the shit that I have before I made it.
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But when I was a kid, you know, my mom used to have a lot of parties at the house.
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So she would always be like, let's go back to the fucking house from the store.
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And everyone would go to the house, the Doheny house where, you know, where I grew up in.
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And, you know, and it would be like a Tuesday night and I'd be trying to sleep.
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I had to wake up for school in the morning because my mom's guardian, who is a Thai lady
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by the name of Suni and the bar manager name was Ted and he worked at the club and Suni
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And I had to wake up in the morning, but there'd be partying downstairs.
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So I had to go downstairs and I'd have to tell my mom to shut up.
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I mean, but for real, because my mom was from Wisconsin and her voice would go, ah, and
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And there would be Richard Pryor and there would be Robin and fucking Argus and Richard
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Belzer and Tim Thomerson and Biff Maynard and all these fucking guys.
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Like my shit, like when I, like the fact that I'm still around and I'm okay, it's fucking weird.
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Do you feel like you had, you felt like you had to compete to be like you, oh, well, in
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order to be even seen, I have to be funny because that's the environment.
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No, I was just, no, because when I told them to shut up, I had school in the morning, everyone
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So it was like, that's what, yeah, they would just laugh.
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So it was like, I was, I was, you know, I guess I was funny without knowing I was funny
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when I was, you know, when I was just, just a kid.
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Like I always fucked around and that's what Totally Polly was.
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I mean, Totally Polly was like this natural, this kind of like happy accident.
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You know, the thing on MTV was just like this fucking, this storm.
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That's what I was telling you when you came up to my house.
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I'm like, dude, you're like I was back when I first made it because you're like this,
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Yeah, because you have mental stuff too, right?
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But I think, what do I, I mean, yeah, I don't know.
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I'd like, you know what I liked about, I think, I just didn't trust the fucking world,
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There's just something about the world I didn't trust.
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That you couldn't, if I got you to, if you laughed, it was like.
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Do you mind that they're in the front of my book bag or lenses list?
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Like the, you know, like the Belushi, you know, like, what is it?
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Like, make you feel a certain way, but I don't need to go over there.
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If you could get somebody, you'd say something, and they went from whatever their state was,
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So that was something that was fascinating to me.
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Like, who came and it was just something so novel?
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Did you ever see a popcorn machine put popcorn out?
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That was like the store back in the, you know, in the 70s, 80s, and 90s.
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But everyone was doing drugs and everyone was drinking.
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That's why when Tommy Lee was here, you know, he was here, I guess, earlier or whatever.
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And then also Vince Neil, who I talked to about a month ago, he lives in Nashville.
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Yeah, and he says he's got a huge, he's the only one that's still not sober.
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Okay, so basically, there was a comedian for you young TikTokers out there that are obsessed
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Just so you know, Vaughn is from, it's a French articulation that comes from the south of France
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And my family originally is from Mogadishu, actually.
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So just to do the quick version, there's a comedian named Sam Kennison.
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And you guys are doing drugs and getting fucked up and blah, blah, blah.
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And then Amir Kay winds up having to pay for your baby.
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But they never got a blood test, I don't think, until later, right?
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Carl was like supporting the child and thinking it was his daughter.
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I would see him down in Texas, down at Randy Butler's clubs down there, and I would see
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him perform down there sometimes and cross paths with him.
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There was another guy named Mitchell Walters, who also died.
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He had the fucking funniest 12 minutes of material.
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This was in the late 80s, and we were at the Dunes Hotel, and it was Sam Kennison and
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No, I don't know what he was, but he was fucking hilarious.
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See, there's a picture with him and Sam and Billy Idol on the left up there.
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So, before one of the shows at the Dunes, this was the late 80s, this was when Sam Kennison
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was getting sued by United Artists for not showing up on his movie set, a took.
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So, Mitchell Walters comes up to me before the show, and I said, Mitchell, we're going
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And he goes, yeah, absolutely, me and you, we're going to party, package, package, party.
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And then when the show started, and then the show finished, and I went to go hang out with
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He's like, get the fuck away from me, golden boy.
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Because in between the show, he went out and did coke, and he fucking gambled, and he
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I think he had some type of internal, like, you know, I don't want to say it was cancer
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or something like that, but he wasn't too healthy.
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But he was a really funny cat as well, though, you know?
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It's kind of a dangerous, it's a dice roll doing comedy, because you're really, you're
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at a, because comedy club is just a bar attached to a stage.
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Yeah, and you have access to everything, and you perform at night.
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So you're at work at night, people have just gotten out of a crowd, they're on a
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high, you're on a high, it's like, yeah, it's like you're just, there's so much temptation
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that's right there, so much possibility for, to get in trouble.
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I think I feel like a lot of responsibility sometimes, you know?
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So that's, it's not as much fun sometimes, I guess, because you have a little, you feel
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like you have more responsibility, but then sometimes I got to remember, hey man, just take
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it easy, just do your best, be yourself, try your best, and just try to be honest about,
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you know, whenever you can about what's going on, you know?
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I think just that the boom we're having in comedy has been really, that's been a real
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blessing, because I think the news kind of shot itself in the dick over the past five
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And kind of like, nobody knows what's news or what's real anymore, so everything's such
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a joke anyway, that I think people are like, well, at least I know these are jokes.
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And then what do you think about like doing something on stage or doing something or this
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or whatever, and then people comment on this as opposed to the old days where you just
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Except for they would just come up to you at like a, you know, a diner and say, oh,
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I saw you on Married with Children or some shit.
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Sometimes the producers will send me some to watch.
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It's like, do you want to open a box that's, that's something can hurt your feelings?
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I think that's kind of some of the dangerous part.
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Now, if it's something super funny, a lot of times they'll make sure that I see it,
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Sometimes if somebody makes funny, really good.
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What do you think about what happened to Jack Black and his partner recently?
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What happened was, I think they said something about Donald Trump.
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Oh, with Tristan D or whatever the guy's name is?
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I think that's fucking kind of classless, I think.
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But isn't it wild that like you can ad-lib something like that and then it's a
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And yes, it was terrible, you know, that he said that and that's, you don't, you
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don't say that and you don't even joke about that.
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But I mean, look, but also it's like, that's how he feels.
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Uh, I just think it's a kind of a, and it had just had like, yeah, it's just kind of, people
00:38:23.200
I know, but the whole thing's going to be like a great, it's going to be political theater.
00:38:33.560
It's a shell or it's a shell company for the big business.
00:38:44.700
Well, I think, I don't know if Kamala doesn't have it to win.
00:38:49.140
I don't think anyone is going to be Trump, to be honest.
00:38:52.540
I like, I think Bobby Kennedy, I feel like has a lot of great points to talk about and
00:38:58.020
I think he, you know, you believe that he wants to get in there and do something different.
00:39:04.760
Why is it so many people don't want to run for president?
00:39:07.620
Like the rock, for instance, people have talked about the rock, like he's gorgeous.
00:39:16.620
Like, you know, like I think Trump fans and then also the liberal, liberal audience would
00:39:20.980
fucking go, oh my God, that's fucking the rock.
00:39:24.040
Because, because obviously like, I mean, would you ever run for anything like that?
00:39:37.880
After you kind of like wanted to chill, like, would you ever get into politics?
00:39:41.020
Maybe I would run for a VP or something if they let you.
00:39:46.360
Because vice president, you just get to stand in the back and be like this.
00:39:51.380
Vice president, you just get to fucking chill, bro.
00:39:56.340
Like, you just get to fucking know, like, what does the vice president say?
00:40:01.920
You get to say, hey, China, we bout this shit, bro.
00:40:05.220
And then it just goes viral and then you're fucking having a blast, dude.
00:40:12.300
Your kids can be on the front lawn fucking juggling or fucking smoking behind the statues
00:40:18.140
I think it would be, that part would be pretty fun.
00:40:21.380
Everybody knows the vice president's a, who gives a fuck anyway, dude.
00:40:24.620
It's like, they'll let anybody be the vice president, dude.
00:40:44.320
No, they told him so long he was the president.
00:40:46.000
He finally, when they said, no, no, you're not the president.
00:40:50.640
No, what they should have done is they should have told him that, um, that, uh, Mr. President,
00:40:57.660
We need to move you to a hotel, move him to a hotel for three, four days, then take all
00:41:01.940
his pictures and all the different things that are in the white house and put them in another
00:41:05.960
white house and then move them back into that and say, this is your place.
00:41:09.680
You know, he won't know that it's not his place.
00:41:11.720
And then just say, you're the president, but he just like plug in other TVs and shit.
00:41:21.280
But I felt bad because he was, you know, he was being puppeted.
00:41:24.680
But he was also, um, I, I've been around like my mom, for instance, my mom wasn't well,
00:41:30.120
you know, towards, towards, you know, the last good 10 years.
00:41:36.960
So I was, that was affecting me watching Joe reminding me of my mom.
00:41:41.120
And your grandparents are people's watching grandparents.
00:41:46.660
I mean, my father was, uh, my father was 70 when I was born.
00:41:51.200
So I can totally relate to the sense of like, it felt like somebody was being taken advantage
00:41:55.500
That's what, and that really, I don't care what side of the things you're on, but that
00:41:58.920
to me just felt, it must look cringe to people in the world if that's how we're willing
00:42:04.740
And then also like every time he walked off a plane, wasn't cool.
00:42:11.560
And it's like, you know, I didn't want to see that.
00:42:14.480
I didn't want to see, I didn't, I'm glad that didn't, nothing bad happened.
00:42:18.260
All those little stages they put them on, the scariest thing to put, the scariest thing
00:42:21.880
for a senior citizen next to more than, more than one Ottoman in a room is a little
00:42:27.280
stage, dude, because there's nowhere really to go except for down.
00:42:37.940
I, and it looks like almost they tried to kill Trump.
00:42:42.940
And so then Biden, they're like, well, if that doesn't work, then Biden has to step
00:42:46.600
down because he has to give, put somebody that can try to win.
00:42:49.320
I don't know if that's true, but it looks a little bit like that.
00:42:55.200
I think there's, he's a sicko, that little kid.
00:42:58.440
Oh, you just think it was just the kid acting alone?
00:43:03.500
You know, it's like a lot of these school shooters are, they're, you know what I mean?
00:43:08.940
Who's, I mean, who's going to take a gun and go shoot up a school?
00:43:13.440
So it's like, you know, for someone to do that, it's just repulsive.
00:43:25.340
I don't, you know, and you wonder like, did somebody get to this kid and inspire him to do
00:43:31.240
The thing about having another shooter, because some people think that there's another shooter,
00:43:34.880
but you would have had to have had the, then somebody had to have hired the kid.
00:43:41.340
You know, they have to know the kid's going to do it.
00:43:45.420
I think he's just a wacko that knew Trump was, you know what I mean?
00:43:49.520
But then it's unbelievable that the Secret Service wasn't able to, like, if people are-
00:43:58.540
You know, they're just self-involved with their own bullshit.
00:44:00.860
And they weren't, weren't, weren't focused on the whole thing.
00:44:04.000
Either way, you know, I like, you know, at night, you know, I was, I was fucking with you
00:44:07.320
the other night when we were texting each other.
00:44:12.360
I just, you know, as a con- I started watching Fox News with my mom.
00:44:21.260
She would just watch Bill- Look at Bill O'Reilly.
00:44:29.580
You know, with all the Fox News anchor girls, she'd always get angry.
00:44:41.540
So I would watch, I would always watch, you know, the news with her.
00:45:15.500
Him and his girl, Steph, they stayed at the Hyatt.
00:45:18.260
And he says, well, it seems like the comedy store's calling me.
00:45:40.600
What do you think of his relationship with your mom?
00:45:45.160
I mean, he used to do shit with my mom that you're not supposed to do for someone that
00:45:55.620
You know, she would be working the cover booth and then Steve Renazzisi would have
00:46:00.820
But that was another conversation that was supposed to be funny.
00:46:05.820
Yeah, because I never knew exactly what happened.
00:46:08.160
Yeah, so what happened was is my mom didn't trust a lot of people.
00:46:12.280
And my mom loved Tommy, you know, because, you know, she just, you know, she took to certain
00:46:20.240
You know, my mom took to certain people and she really liked him and she trusted him.
00:46:23.800
So when she couldn't get up the stairs, you know, because she would try to get up the
00:46:29.060
stairs, you know, she would call the store and she'd say, can you help me up the stairs?
00:46:42.400
And then that's when, you know, Tommy would get Renazzisi or someone or someone to sit
00:46:47.020
in Benji or whoever and they'd sit in and then she would go and I would be there and
00:46:54.660
And then, you know, he would sit with her for a long time and watch the TV and sometimes
00:47:01.440
So he did stuff that you weren't supposed to do as an employee, but that's what my mom
00:47:07.160
The store was always about, you know, helping people.
00:47:18.760
I just heard things and you're like, well, what even happened?
00:47:21.340
And you never got to really hear his side of it, I feel like, either, you know?
00:47:29.340
You had, so recently Richard Simmons passed away.
00:47:32.820
Was there, were you guys ever, ever, because I know you were trying to do, you did a great
00:47:43.520
And did you guys ever come to a, like, real conclusion?
00:47:47.600
Did you ever get to actually talk with him about it?
00:48:17.600
So we did this short film and it did really well for me.
00:48:21.620
You know, we were at Park City with it and, you know, and people just loved it.
00:48:27.500
Oh, by the, by halfway into this, I believe that it's him.
00:48:48.100
Five, six, seven, eight, you guys are kids, have kids.
00:48:58.620
And so, now, since he's passed, is there a, would you still try to do it?
00:49:04.440
Like, I don't know if that's against the grain or whatever.
00:49:07.620
Or is that just, can his estate hire you to do it?
00:49:17.520
But from what I, from what I've learned from being in this process, that if you're a public
00:49:29.800
So, I mean, the Pam and Tommy Hulu special, or Hulu series was unauthorized.
00:49:41.180
So, as long as you don't, don't do something mean, you know, as long as I do it nice, like
00:49:50.140
Yeah, you're not defaming him, then I'll be fine.
00:49:52.740
So, I'm in bed with a producer named Mark Walper, W-O-L-P-E-R, not Wahlberg.
00:49:58.560
And he's been in the game for about 50 years, him and his family.
00:50:02.260
They have a deal at Warner Brothers, and I have a great writer named Jordan Allen Dutton
00:50:09.060
And then, but my instinct is like, your instinct is get his estate to kind of be involved, you
00:50:17.140
You know, I'm kind of at the place where I just want to make the movie, and I just want
00:50:25.520
And that's kind of my come from from the beginning.
00:50:28.040
And it was never about making fun of anything else.
00:50:31.440
You know, his, Richard saved lives, like his, he saved lives, and he helped people, and that's
00:50:38.920
And at the end of the day, yeah, I'm a comic, but I'm a fucking actor.
00:50:43.560
I've starred in a lot of movies, and that's my main thing, and that's why I still sell tickets.
00:50:47.960
I don't sell tickets because of my Netflix special, or, you know, I sell tickets because
00:50:53.260
of this, because I've touched people with my films.
00:51:01.320
I mean, this is like a really great opportunity for me, and I'm going to do it, and it's going
00:51:05.220
to happen, and we're getting the financing together right now.
00:51:10.440
But I got a great producer that I've been in bed with on this for about six months,
00:51:15.040
and we've got a great writer, and we've got a great story, we've got a great pitch,
00:51:20.840
Yeah, and I think, you know, say if you had passed away and you knew before you passed
00:51:24.420
away, you were like, I don't know if I want this guy to make this thing about me or to
00:51:28.580
And who knows if maybe also Richard Simmons was feeling embarrassed about himself.
00:51:32.360
He, you know, sometimes it's like, I just want to go away.
00:51:34.380
If he knew he was sick, there's just so many little, but then if you did pass away and
00:51:39.720
then somebody made something that was really honoring you and you got to see it, I wonder
00:51:44.380
I feel like I would probably feel like, man, that's pretty cool.
00:51:50.420
You know, I feel that he would see it just like he probably saw this.
00:51:56.240
And at the end of the day, you know, publicly he came out and he says, I don't...
00:52:03.900
He says, I don't approve of Pauly Shore playing me in a biopic.
00:52:07.720
And then he says, I want Tom Cruise to play me.
00:52:13.200
So, I mean, you know, that's a funny joke, by the way.
00:52:21.600
Like, how do we know this was even him writing this shit?
00:52:27.060
This could be some twink that he met at the airport.
00:52:31.160
He was probably a twink that he met at the airport.
00:52:35.120
I just read that a man that I don't know is writing a script about bio...
00:52:39.740
I'm in talks with a major studio to create my own biopic.
00:52:45.740
So obviously, you got to read your own room of your life.
00:52:58.260
You're not over here fucking milling around your typewriter.
00:53:01.280
That's another thing I want to get to the bottom.
00:53:03.220
I want to get to the bottom line because, you know, I love Richard.
00:53:09.500
And I know that I don't have a fucking bad bone in my body.
00:53:12.680
And my come from is all about love and, you know, and putting it out in a positive,
00:53:19.340
And I don't know and I don't believe that he's the one that wrote all this stuff.
00:53:33.900
Yeah, people hadn't heard from him in a long time.
00:53:35.600
Bring up some of the videos where he helped women lose some weight.
00:53:45.240
He was like a professional wrestler that never wrestled but danced the fat off of the Midwest
00:54:01.320
I remember my grandmother had party off the pounds, dude.
00:54:28.120
And you know what would happen is he would get involved with a relationship with, like,
00:54:34.580
And then after the woman lost all the weight, then Richard would just, like, give them the
00:54:40.140
And just, like, spatch and just, like, peace out.
00:54:45.300
Just kind of wanted them while they were chubby.
00:54:49.040
And you're not talking about a sexual relationship?
00:54:54.120
You know, it's kind of like if you were chubby and I helped you and Pauly Shore helped you
00:55:00.520
And you're calling me and I'm, like, you know, I'm done with you.
00:55:18.080
No, he never really, you know, he never really was either or.
00:55:24.700
And maybe he was just, like, a piece of moon rock or something.
00:55:29.040
Born Milton Teagle Simmons down there in New Orleans, Louisiana, on July the 12th.
00:55:38.340
Did you ever see him when you were in Louisiana?
00:55:41.960
I met, I think, one of his great-granddaughters one time somewhere.
00:55:52.260
But this was, and that's, who knows what was going on.
00:56:06.080
But I remember as a kid growing up, like, when Richard Simmons was coming on Letterman or Howard Stern or Ellen, like, you would wait.
00:56:13.580
You know, like, when Letterman was like, yo, come out next, it's Richard Simmons.
00:56:27.140
Now, if it's homosexuality, would you ever, would you, you might, if you, would you be willing to do those type of scenes in it if you had to, to honor him?
00:56:53.320
You're trying to not talk about yourself, but that's okay.
00:56:56.460
That's sweet of you to change the subject, Paul.
00:56:58.200
You do a good job making it about other people.
00:57:01.860
I'm going to, David Spade and I wrote a movie and we're trying to get financing for it.
00:57:14.600
Well, I mean, dude, in the 90s and early 2000s, you were, some people say the biggest star in
00:57:28.840
That's why I said to you at the comedy store, it was like six months ago, I said, you're
00:57:31.980
like me back when I was, you know, but you're in your 40s.
00:57:45.600
Do you feel like it was only, is that a weird question?
00:57:56.440
I mean, they saw me and they're like, fuck, this kid's funny.
00:58:01.680
And then from there, Jeffrey Katzenberg found me and he was running Disney at the time.
00:58:06.240
And he fucking just wrote all these movies for me and they all did well for me.
00:58:09.660
Do you remember like, would they come and see you at the store?
00:58:14.120
I had my manager, Michael Rotenberg from Three Arts.
00:58:35.920
Yeah, so he ran my shit, him and Adam Bennett from CAA.
00:58:45.800
I'm sorry I asked you if your mom helped you get it.
00:58:56.980
Well, I guess it's a hard business, and people take whatever, whoever can help you, sometimes
00:59:02.380
Not that you didn't stand, here's what I meant.
00:59:03.900
It's not that you didn't stand on your own talent.
00:59:09.380
You know how like you sound like if someone dies?
00:59:17.820
Just for asking me if my mom got me in the show business.
00:59:21.280
Let's just take a time for a, you know what I mean?
00:59:30.800
Theo and myself are taking a little moment to get that energy out of the room that he
00:59:41.000
put in there, thinking that my mom, Mitzi Shore, the owner of the biggest comedy club in
00:59:45.580
the world, got me my break in the entertainment business.
01:00:02.000
No, but it was just, it was, they saw me do stand-up.
01:00:12.200
All right, but was there a call that you got one ear and like, okay, this is getting fucking
01:00:16.640
Well, after Encino Man came out, and it was a big hit for me, and then we rolled into
01:00:20.740
Son-in-Law, and it was just like, boom, boom, and they brought me around the world.
01:00:24.220
You know, you know what I used to do, I used to do when I used to, when we used to do shows,
01:00:34.680
So I always had like a band open for me, like the Spin Doctors.
01:00:37.660
They would open for me, and then I would come out and do 45 minutes, people standing, and
01:00:50.940
I would stage dive, and then I would come back, and then do more jokes.
01:01:03.560
You remember when I was a kid, you'd go to those concerts.
01:01:07.560
Yeah, I love how they call it festival seating.
01:01:12.000
And then we would, and then I'd bring the band back out, and then I would sing songs.
01:01:16.560
And I had like this one song that was a hit song on MTV called Lisa Lisa, the one I adore.
01:01:29.280
Stop trying to wheeze the nugs from coast to coast.
01:01:32.760
The ones with the cones are the ones I dig the most.
01:02:15.620
The ones with the cones are the ones I dig the most.
01:02:31.840
It seems like you just made this video so you could smash a lot of these chicks, bro.
01:02:36.700
No, it was a song based off of my ex-girlfriend.
01:02:39.560
Yeah, have you seen the front nuts on that one lady, dude?
01:03:28.280
I wonder if it was called the Middle Evening at the Sinking of the Cerebellum.
01:03:54.380
But he used to host this thing, and the girls would come out, and it would be Mud Wrestling.
01:04:04.160
He had, uh, Don is, uh, Don is, yeah, I wouldn't f*** Don, that's for sure.
01:04:16.440
But Mud Wrestling was a big deal back in the 90s.
01:04:21.780
Do you think, um, you think Trump will be the next president?
01:04:33.200
I like watching it and just kind of being a fan of, uh, the, the political, um.
01:04:41.820
I mean, no one knows what the f***'s gonna happen.
01:04:43.920
But I know there's gonna be some, it's gonna be, it's gonna be a real fight.
01:04:47.720
It's kind of like UFC fight, but for, for, you know, because it's basically, they're fighting
01:04:53.660
So they're gonna go after each other pretty f***ing hard.
01:04:59.360
I mean, she's like a prosecutor for like sex trafficking or something.
01:05:06.620
I thought she was an undercover cop or something.
01:05:13.420
But didn't she, like, she, wasn't she a prosecutor?
01:05:18.280
Like, so she would prosecute on behalf of, I think, like, uh, the Bay Area.
01:05:26.860
But, but either way, she's, she's, you know, she's, uh, not a fan of Trump.
01:05:31.520
So they're gonna, yeah, it's gonna be a good bout.
01:05:36.380
Did you ever get to party with Trump back in the day anyway?
01:05:49.720
He was, um, the first time I used to see him was in Daytona Beach.
01:05:55.160
And this was when we did, um, Spring Break for MTV and all that.
01:06:01.860
And Ron Rice was the owner of Hawaiian Tropics.
01:06:13.860
People would look at my tits and they look like, you get,
01:06:24.240
Yeah, and they would, they would, they would, like, lean over and you'd see these, like,
01:06:29.860
And they would look like, yeah, they, it was like, um, it was almost like somebody was,
01:06:34.320
like, had made them out of, like, dish gloves or something.
01:06:38.240
Like, they, like, if you put, if you pulled a shirt on them on them, you could hear them,
01:06:41.060
like, it was just like, damn, bitches are plastic, bro.
01:06:46.920
And this one girl, I was dating this one girl, her boobs started moving, bro.
01:06:52.980
But it was cool, though, because when I was doing Behind Doggy Style, they're right there,
01:07:06.780
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But, yeah, I would see him at the Daytona Beach, like the Hawaiian Tropic parties.
01:09:03.100
This is my number one thing about Donald Trump, right?
01:09:05.360
I've met him a few times, but not had a chance to really engage with him, right?
01:09:09.360
So you get an idea of him, but you're always like, well, what is he like?
01:09:12.980
Like, you know, like you, if I never got to talk to you, I would have, you know, some
01:09:17.800
general thoughts, but I wouldn't really know, well, what is he like?
01:09:27.420
Like, I think I wish I knew more about how he is.
01:09:32.080
No, I never had those type of conversations where I'm like, oh, yeah, I remember one time we
01:09:37.180
It was always like, kind of like when I'd see Hugh Hefner, I would never really engage
01:09:43.060
I'd always kind of wave, shake his hand, you know what I mean?
01:09:49.960
It was fun because it was before the whole social media thing, but it's kind of like,
01:09:53.680
even driving down Sunset Boulevard now, it's fucking depressing.
01:09:57.260
You know, the store is the only thing that's fucking popping.
01:10:02.040
Yeah, but you drive down Sunset on a Saturday night, there's nothing.
01:10:08.260
People don't go out anymore because people are scared.
01:10:11.240
They don't want to be around the photos and the videos and, you know what I mean?
01:10:17.400
And also COVID as well, people shifted and stayed in that.
01:10:21.500
Unlike if you go to Texas or Florida where people don't give a fuck.
01:10:24.680
Oh, the second I got to Tennessee, yeah, people were spitting in each other's mouths and shit.
01:10:33.360
But here in L.A., it's just like, it's, you know.
01:10:41.160
There's not a lot of joy in, like, Hollywood anymore.
01:10:45.980
Although Silver Lake, Echo Park, Los Feliz, Hipsters, those are fucking fun, dude.
01:10:52.420
Like, that whole area, East Hollywood, it's fucking, it's fun.
01:10:55.960
Yeah, it is interesting that Hollywood, it's kind of quieter now.
01:11:06.840
And even just in your life, have you seen it just change so much?
01:11:10.820
I think after COVID, you know, after COVID and all that, that whole, it just shifted into, you know, a different time.
01:11:18.800
Because when Rogan and them were at the store, that was crazy, too.
01:11:22.120
I mean, you go on a Tuesday night, bro, and it was insane.
01:11:28.560
This is a guy saying how bad it is in Hollywood.
01:11:31.120
He's talking about just the industry and what they're making right now.
01:11:40.140
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From just last year, feature films are down 3%, 3.3%, versus a five-year average.
01:12:02.080
As we know things were bad already, it is 23.8% down.
01:12:14.180
So like industrial films, short films, just everything.
01:12:26.300
So as you can see, just across the board, everything is down.
01:12:29.080
All in all, versus a five-year average, production shoot days in Los Angeles, California, the home of the film industry, are down 33.4%.
01:12:38.000
So I got a little curious when I went to the Bureau of Labor Statistics to get the numbers on unemployment rates in the motion picture and television industry.
01:12:44.000
Now, they do lump the sound recording industries in with this.
01:12:48.680
That is a 16.1% unemployment rate in the motion picture and television industry.
01:12:55.340
So that is not counting the massive layoffs that just occurred again at Warner Brothers Discovery.
01:12:59.820
And it's definitely not counting all the ones that are about to come.
01:13:05.760
But I was just, I saw this the other day and I was like, wow, yeah, I wonder if there's just not as many people here as well.
01:13:15.200
I mean, look how many millions of people watch you doing this.
01:13:23.380
I mean, you probably know a lot of women that, you know, back in the day, if you were a pretty girl and you had to come to L.A., you're Maxim, Playboy, Penthouse, Hustler, FHM.
01:13:37.500
And now you've got all these influencers doing and making money.
01:13:42.340
So I think since 2015, 16, 17, you know, the business has shifted.
01:13:47.520
And then guys like Mark Wahlberg moved to Vegas.
01:13:49.960
So they're starting to do a whole studio out there.
01:13:54.800
So people are saying like, hey, you don't need to live in L.A.
01:13:57.520
And especially because everyone's in a Zoom world now.
01:14:01.060
You know, no one goes to fucking meetings anymore.
01:14:02.940
I feel bad for people that own office buildings.
01:14:17.480
And the agent's probably like, I don't feel like going in.
01:14:19.600
I'm going to get sick or I'm going to stay home.
01:14:25.020
And then a lot of new agencies kind of started up when social media started.
01:14:32.160
Or when TikTok and people popped off on Instagram, they joined groups like Shots.
01:14:51.240
You know, different agencies weren't even seeing this sort of thing.
01:15:08.040
The company was originally founded as a software development company in 2009.
01:15:13.800
In November 2019, Spotify announced a suite of podcasts and included a partnership with Shots Podcast Network.
01:15:19.940
But yes, groups like Shots became the representatives for a lot of talent.
01:15:27.600
And so they weren't even working with the agents, you know, the original agencies anymore, the big agencies.
01:15:36.380
The other day someone was like, you want to be in a movie?
01:15:37.940
And I was like, is it going to be 40 seconds long?
01:15:44.000
Kids can't even watch a movie without taking a pill now.
01:15:51.580
I got to have a pill when I watch my movies, too.
01:15:56.240
Like, you know, you watch, you know, you're watching the news and then you're watching your Netflix.
01:16:15.740
And the wildest part, Pauly, I think one thing is that some people for years have been like,
01:16:23.080
You think there'll be a time where we'll live forever.
01:16:24.660
And now I do, but it's not in the way we think.
01:16:29.540
It's like eventually from this episode alone, they'll be able to make a you and a me that
01:16:35.340
can exist in some virtual world where you could talk to us anytime.
01:16:52.460
You know, you, Joe, Tony, Shane Gillis, you know, all these guys, like you fucking tapped
01:17:00.000
I mean, you don't need all that shit because at the end of the day, everyone's coming after
01:17:10.580
Like if you wanted to star in your own Theo Vaughn series, like fucking everybody, what's the
01:17:32.060
With the guy that started in the Christmas movies.
01:17:48.680
Dude, you're the modern day fucking Ernest, bro.
01:18:08.880
Take your head out and put your fucking, his head out and put your, like, what is this?
01:18:39.700
If Ernest Goes to Africa, Ernest Goes to the AIDS Clinic, dude, probably.
01:18:43.780
I'm guessing, and no offense to Africa, those are rumors, and a lot of that's on Reddit.
01:18:49.440
I mean, this is, we can just, can you guys, can you guys Photoshop Theo's head on top of his head?
01:18:54.680
They're just going to be able to, as long as they license you or whatever, they can put you in a movie, dude.
01:19:04.580
Yeah, you don't want to fucking do a David Spade movie.
01:19:26.000
At least we should be able to do Native American face, right?
01:19:50.980
I mean, the thing about space, I notice it's like, this is what I heard about movies.
01:19:56.580
And if you have to be somewhere, stuck somewhere for a while and it's not your friend or you
01:20:01.360
want to sit there every night and have dinner with, then it just seems like it's not as
01:20:05.760
That's why I could never be in that movie because Dave's in it.
01:20:25.360
Here, put up George Burns, 18 Again, right there.
01:20:41.200
So I played Charlie Schlatter's best friend in 18 Again.
01:20:47.320
Yeah, so that's where I met George Burns, and that's when I met David Spade, because David
01:20:56.300
David's always, I mean, how has he always had so much luck with the ladies?
01:21:10.140
I mean, there's a lot of guys that are like that.
01:21:19.140
He's like the David Copperfield of straight dudes, man.
01:21:50.920
I say we do a series of fucking Ernest movies and just change it to Theo and just do the
01:21:58.180
The kids aren't going to remember this fucking guy.
01:22:05.800
I'm just saying, like, how far can somebody see?
01:22:13.740
The average sight distance for a person with normal vision is about three miles.
01:22:18.860
When standing on a flat surface with their eyes about five feet above the ground.
01:22:32.760
We were just talking about David Spade, Average Read.
01:22:38.320
When Bobby Lee came, what was it like when you saw him first?
01:23:17.440
I think I was there with my mom or my brothers or something.
01:23:29.820
And you just thought he was funny from the interactions?
01:23:33.300
And then he started taking tickets at the La Jolla room.
01:23:38.840
And then he started going up on open mic night.
01:23:42.660
And every time I'd come down there and play, you know, I'd kind of put him up in front of me.
01:23:49.480
And then he became a paid regular at the Riviera Hotel in Las Vegas when my mom was there to see me.
01:23:57.440
And he opened for me at the Riviera Hotel in the late 90s.
01:24:00.760
And that's when my mom made him a paid regular.
01:24:26.580
I'm going to release him the next time he's got something coming out, you know?
01:25:00.400
I got a great script called Captured, where I capture him and put him in a cage in my backyard.
01:25:14.240
Would he sleep all day back then or was he more of a morning person?
01:25:22.620
You know, it's definitely a very specific style of living.
01:25:44.680
And, you know, the road manager gives everyone their hotel keys.
01:25:56.040
You know, I'm going to stay with you in the room.
01:25:59.140
And I'm like, no, dude, because I don't have anyone.
01:26:12.780
And the crazy thing about him crying, it's like one tear gets in his eye.
01:26:23.700
But again, I told him, I said, dude, it's going to happen for you.
01:26:29.760
He was, you know, before his podcast, he was just trying to figure.
01:26:37.680
He's one guy who could never change a word from his set.
01:27:00.020
He gets really fucking freaked out when I go again.
01:27:35.820
That's one cool thing about the store is just like, it's just, I don't know.
01:27:42.240
Once you get in there and you make your way through and you've been there for a while
01:27:45.480
and you know who's who and you kind of, you develop your own little relationship with
01:27:49.760
the space and the people you love to see and people come and go and the people that
01:27:56.920
You know, we're lucky to be able to have a workplace that has a lot of joy and like
01:28:04.460
Like imagine you get to go to work and it's actually, you can say what you want.
01:28:09.480
Or in fact, HR is like, HR is encouraging you to fucking say crazy or shit.
01:28:18.980
Do you think your mother felt very achieved with her with the comedy club?
01:28:23.100
Um, yeah, I mean, she's, you know, and that's, you know, the way, the way that it's still,
01:28:30.760
the way that it's left right now is exactly how she left it, which is awesome.
01:28:39.740
And, you know, and just like, you know, the rooms are set up the way there are and different
01:28:43.980
than the laugh factor, different, the improv, different vibes.
01:28:46.100
Those are great clubs, um, but, you know, she, she kind of created the black and the
01:28:51.820
red and all that stuff and, you know, and created that space.
01:28:55.960
Yeah, it's, yeah, you wouldn't want it to change.
01:28:58.280
Was there ever a chance that it was going to be sold at some point?
01:29:06.640
It's, you know, it's, it's gotta be a, uh, uh, what's it called?
01:29:21.640
I remember somebody, I don't know if I saw a drawing somewhere that a hotel had drawn around
01:29:26.000
it that were going to build and leave it intact as is on the ground.
01:29:31.980
And build up and just, you know, it was like a 20 story hotel and it would be right under
01:29:38.860
I remember seeing a, somebody had put that together.
01:29:43.440
I don't know if it was actually considered at one point, but I thought,
01:29:48.140
Um, what, uh, when you, um, when you look at your life and like maybe having a family,
01:29:57.500
That's like Scott, your brother has the same, huh?
01:30:21.380
When you look at guys like Brody Stevens, right?
01:30:26.100
Is that, do you feel like things like that happen with suicide amongst comedians and stuff?
01:30:59.320
Yeah, sometimes it's hard to get your mind to just fucking relax.
01:31:05.000
And I think it's important, it sounds kind of corny, but I think it's really important
01:31:08.980
that everyone focuses on what they have as opposed to what they don't have.
01:31:15.040
You know, like you got to focus on your blessings, you know, as opposed to, you know.
01:31:22.500
Yeah, because the other way is a trap because there's no end to, you can like, focusing on
01:31:29.040
what you don't have and trying to, I mean, I fall into it all the time, you know, but
01:31:32.800
it's just a, it's such a trap or wanting more and then not even enjoying.
01:31:37.540
The saddest thing I think is sometimes when I look back on certain moments in my life and
01:31:40.820
I'm like, man, I wish I had enjoyed that a little more.
01:31:43.100
Just by being present or just by sitting there quietly or by.
01:32:02.860
Oh, those guys have been making some money, dude.
01:32:04.960
I mean, what do you, I mean, Jesus Christ, dude, I wouldn't know what to do with that.
01:32:13.040
You can, I mean, you don't spend on yourself just like me.
01:32:26.800
To my apartment when I was a kid because I was ashamed of it.
01:32:36.860
And it's, it's not like an estate or anything, but I feel ashamed even sometimes showing that.
01:32:54.760
No, just because it's like you said, like I'm just one guy with my dog, you know, and then
01:32:58.840
I have a condo in Vegas, you know, I, I kind of.
01:33:05.140
So my, uh, I see your poster there all the time.
01:33:10.020
So I have like a one bedroom condo and I got all my shit there and it feels more comfortable
01:33:14.700
than my house in LA because, you know, I'm just one guy, you know, the older you get
01:33:20.780
I don't want to be that guy that's that by himself with his dog in this big house.
01:33:26.280
So I just don't like, I don't like living in a big house, you know, it's not who I am.
01:33:32.600
I think some things that are kind of, this is kind of fucking emo and sad and is definitely
01:33:40.120
But, um, yeah, like sometimes I'll lay in bed at night and like just the, the, the space
01:33:45.000
in my bed, it feels fucking lonesome, you know?
01:33:48.100
But then sometimes if a girl wanted to stay over, I'd be like, I don't know if I like
01:33:59.400
No, if a girl stays at night, I'm like, I'm going to go peace out in the other room.
01:34:04.200
And then, but, but when you sleep alone at night, what do you do?
01:34:09.500
So first I wash my face, brush my teeth, put in my retainers, put on a breathe right strip on
01:34:28.800
Put the thing on and then, uh, I'll lay down, put a pillow between my legs, get another pillow
01:34:34.420
that I hold on to, set the air conditioner at 69.
01:34:43.800
I will pee right before I go to sleep and hope I don't have to pee all night.
01:34:46.980
That's my goal is to not have to pee all night.
01:34:55.400
And then I'll take, um, there's a pill from my doctor.
01:35:05.000
It's like fucking, it's just basically like, uh, it's like a little queer nugget.
01:35:11.740
I mean, this thing wouldn't, it would barely do nothing to you.
01:35:14.100
And then why is it that you think you need to take the melatonin, melatonin and this pill
01:35:23.580
Why do you have to take that in order to, to sleep?
01:35:28.120
Do you really feel like it really mellows you out?
01:35:38.840
And right now I am, I think I'm 64 days off of masturbation and 60 days off of porn,
01:35:45.560
64 days off pornography and 57 days off of masturbation.
01:35:50.720
Not a lot, but I had done it for countless years, yeah.
01:35:53.680
Yeah, but back when you were young, even in your 40s, you're jerking off all the time?
01:36:01.180
I mean, yeah, I like to store up for winter or whatever, I guess.
01:36:04.860
Yeah, because if you're going to cum with a chick, you want a lot to cum out.
01:36:07.320
I don't know, I don't want her to get crazy, you know?
01:36:09.220
I don't want her to be like, God, we got to, you know, ruining the curtains or whatever.
01:36:13.000
When you have sex with a girl, do you put a condom on or does she put it on if she tells
01:36:17.480
Look, if people want to use a condom, we let them use them, you know?
01:36:27.360
And then sometimes you put it in and then they're like, yo, you're having sex with girls without
01:36:36.740
I don't know what you're talking about either, bro.
01:36:46.560
We're not going to my fucking parents all of a sudden.
01:36:50.940
Dude, do you remember the first time you ever had sex or not?
01:36:57.720
Oh, and then I'll put stuff in my hair to try and keep my hair healthy.
01:37:14.140
It's the one that you can get out the guy's van or whatever down there.
01:37:29.060
Yeah, but I'm fucking used to just the off-market pills.
01:37:34.560
Oh, dude, I took the stuff from India for a while.
01:37:44.560
It was just that fucking ramp maker from India, baby.
01:37:50.200
Oh, you could fucking knit a scarf with that thing.
01:37:59.900
It was off this gambling site or whatever, but I used to get them.
01:38:05.860
They'd come in this package, and they had like...
01:38:11.780
You don't have to tell me the guy's name or the girl's name.
01:38:14.980
So, yeah, he comes over to the house with the table?
01:38:19.500
Why don't you have him come to your house with the table?
01:38:25.260
Dude, I don't need some guy to come over and touch me, dude.
01:38:28.380
Wait, touching your house is different than touching at a fucking...
01:38:32.840
You think I'm fucking Protestant or something, dude?
01:38:40.420
Yeah, I don't want some guy touching me at my fucking house, dude.
01:38:46.160
Even if he's a professional masseuse and he just came from David Geffen's house?
01:38:49.380
Dude, a professional masseuse is just some guy that printed something off the internet, dude.
01:39:01.000
And he comes to my house and he has a table and he's coming at night because I'm flying
01:39:04.660
to Raleigh tomorrow, so I want to get a little deep tissue before.
01:39:19.760
You ask a homie that's like, hey, do you have any good masseuses?
01:39:49.380
And go do it, and then tell me if you fucking like it.
01:40:03.100
Yes, because at the end of the day, you're up there on stage, you're traveling, you're
01:40:06.760
making people laugh, you got to take care of your shoulders.
01:40:16.920
I do start getting steam room now, and it's good.
01:40:20.200
I didn't realize I needed to take care of myself.
01:40:30.380
All kind of stuff, because I wasn't taking care of myself.
01:40:33.900
And in Vegas, there's a place called Imperial Spa.
01:40:41.100
But also, there's all those spas in the cold plunge and all that shit.
01:40:46.320
My friend makes a good cold plunge, and he gave me one as a gift.
01:40:50.300
And he was my first sponsor ever on my podcast.
01:40:54.400
My friend Thomas used to run a place called Gray Block Pizza, and then he moved to Bend,
01:41:01.240
Cold plunges, yeah, out there with his buddies.
01:41:09.780
I get two days a week, and then I'll go myself probably one or two days a week.
01:41:40.260
So it's like, you know, this is the age where you got to start stretching.
01:41:44.500
Yeah, that's the most important thing, and sweating.
01:41:48.380
Yeah, I'm starting to learn a little bit more of that.
01:41:55.480
It feels like everybody's pretty popular, kind of.
01:42:01.560
It used to be you had to go see a movie, and then those people would be famous.
01:42:05.400
But now, in the time it would take you to watch a movie, you can look at 200 different people,
01:42:11.100
and all of them have a level of achievement to you.
01:42:13.180
Do you feel like you got fame at the best time?
01:42:19.460
I mean, I think it was the last great decade of it.
01:42:22.620
I mean, if you look at the 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, that was all kind of similar.
01:42:26.980
And then once reality shows hit, you know, the real world, I think that was like the first reality show,
01:42:43.020
Like, did you ever get to party with, like, Michael Jackson?
01:42:54.900
But I mean, back in the MTV days, I met a lot of, you know, pretty cool.
01:42:57.980
But do you remember the sound of his voice or anything, or no?
01:43:12.640
You know, you look at guys like Bruno Mars, super talented.
01:43:19.440
You know, these guys were like, you know, another level, yeah.
01:43:22.200
And they had a level of mystery, and it was like, yeah.
01:43:29.360
But also MTV was the biggest thing in the world.
01:43:50.260
And he would toss to like Britney Spears, or Korn, Limp Bizkit, you know.
01:43:57.320
Yeah, this was like one of the last great heiress here.
01:44:18.280
I was having dinner at Catch in Vegas over at the Aria, and I went to the bathroom, and
01:44:24.080
then she fucking, I guess, she hit some security guy, and then she went in, and then I come
01:44:28.780
back to my fucking table, and she's sitting in my table.
01:44:32.740
No, she's with her boyfriend or husband, or, you know, look at this right here.
01:44:37.260
She keeps getting different husbands or whatever.
01:44:41.160
Yeah, so, look, she touches this guy, and the security hits her in the face.
01:44:51.340
And then she runs into the catch, and I didn't care, you know what I mean?
01:45:00.120
But she ran into catch because she was probably embarrassed.
01:45:01.580
Yeah, and she went in there, and I was like, all right, just give me my fanny pack.
01:45:34.200
Bro, that place had a strip club across the street.
01:45:38.100
Yeah, we used to do comedy down there back in the day.
01:45:41.180
I played a lot of clubs back there, back in the 90s.
01:46:14.700
I was on the porch one time, right, getting a beer.
01:46:55.960
I would love to talk again, but we'll talk about the relationship stuff one day.
01:47:05.680
And there's also something nice about being alone, you know, and having that space.
01:47:14.840
And you always get people asking the same thing, which is what you asked me, do you want
01:47:22.800
And like, with the right situation, I think I would.
01:47:30.260
Because I love my, not to compare my dog to a kid, but I treat my dog great.
01:47:39.740
And then also another thing is like my parents are deceased and I don't have that.
01:47:44.820
So you start a new life, you know, because I'm an orphan, you know?
01:47:49.500
And I want to, you know, start a new life and look at my next 20, 30 years.
01:47:53.520
And I think it'd be cool to have a kid, you know?
01:48:02.680
Or what if they don't even laugh at your jokes?
01:48:13.380
It's tough, though, because I think as a comedian, part of you is still a kid in some ways.
01:48:18.220
You know, I think it's a part of that that we don't let go of.
01:48:20.940
And it's, so for some of us, or for me, for sure.
01:48:29.260
And my dad is dead, but he'd be alive if he could.
01:48:41.080
So then, yeah, I saw you on your Instagram when you weren't home with them.
01:49:12.040
And then I have my one-man show called Stick with the Dancing, which is in the Richard Simmons
01:49:20.440
If you haven't gotten a chance to see it, we played a little bit of it here.
01:49:30.640
And just on your propensity to be hopeful and positive for other people.
01:49:34.660
That's really, it's a nice gift to have, you know?
01:49:37.960
And then also, just so you know, I didn't say this, but we sleep the same.
01:49:43.540
Pillow between my legs, 69 degrees, shit in my hair, stuff on my eyes, you know?
01:49:59.600
Now, I'm just floating on the breeze, and I feel I'm falling like these leaves.
01:50:10.380
Oh, but when I reach that ground, I'll share this peace of mind I found.
01:50:15.900
I can feel it in my bones, but it's gonna take...