E525 Jessie Murph
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1 hour and 37 minutes
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Summary
Jesse Murphy is a singer-songwriter from Huntsville, Alabama. Her rise over the last few years has been incredible to watch. She has a new album coming out ASAP, and a single called Dirty is already released featuring Teddy Swims. We talk about all that and a lot more.
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Today's guest is a singer-songwriter from Huntsville, Alabama.
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Her rise over the last few years has been incredible to watch.
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And a single called Dirty is already released featuring Teddy Swims.
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I'm a fan, and I'm grateful to spend time today with Jesse Murphy.
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Oh, you know, I don't put no damn powder in my hair.
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Now, some men, they wake up and it's just not that, you know, I think it's the Lord missed them
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Did you ever go to the hair salon with your mom and they would put that thing on her?
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My mom sometimes, like, if it was going to be, like, Easter or something, she would take
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us, yeah, she would take us to this nice place.
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This was in Louisiana, in Covington, Louisiana, and it was nice.
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Like, when you open the door, it had, like, a little bell on it or whatever.
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Well, you just knew that they meant business in there, you know?
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Sometimes I would sneak in while my mom's hair was under it and I'd put my hands in
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And I thought it felt pretty cool and it just made me feel like I'm going to be somebody
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I feel like you have long enough hair to where it'll, like, it'll do something.
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I bet horses get jealous, probably some of them.
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I mean, I love, like, I don't know, like, the album names and stuff, but I went, what
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I saw you in Boston, I think it was during Drowning, maybe?
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And I even bought a shirt and I was going to say, and I saved it to wear if you ever came
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We did a podcast this morning and, yeah, might go get a massage after this or go to dinner.
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I think having somebody touch you that's not trying to like.
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That's not, yeah, trying to be a pervert or whatever.
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The places I go, I tell them immediately when I go in there, do not.
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I want clear communication between me and anybody that's touching my body.
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I mean, I think you prefaced it like, hey, guys, I'm just here for the massage, especially
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Yeah, because some of the girls are even so strong and you don't know.
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No, but I will tell them straight up, because here's what happened.
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One time I was in the massage, sometimes they have that little chair where they put your
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And a guy comes in and he's talking to the woman and he asks her if they do like happy
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And I felt like, I cannot believe this guy's asking this.
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And I was like, tell him no, you know, I was just like, because I don't know how experienced
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And then the guy got, you know, I think he felt a little embarrassed.
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But anyway, that's why ever since then, I go in, I say, and if we have a language barrier,
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And then I'll draw kind of like the middle area.
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Well, you know, for me, it takes a little while to draw it.
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If the language is, if there's a language barrier.
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Because I want them to know straight up, I'm here so that when we both, when I leave,
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Are there moments where it's like, I wish, because I don't think people realize like,
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a lot of people think like, oh, I would like to have popularity.
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You know, do you ever have moments where you're like, gosh, this is a lot.
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And it's like, and it's going to be here to stay probably, you know?
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I think it, I'm sure you have to say, it just gets a little overwhelming sometimes.
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And it's so different from how I like grew up and how everything that I saw when I was
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So it's just like a very different, it's an adjustment for sure.
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A lot of people don't know you're from Huntsville, Alabama.
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Since that rocket, you have like the most trajectory out of Huntsville.
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Since that, you know, the rocket that's by the interstate over there?
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Look, honey, you drive through there and then people are like, have you seen the rocket?
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I think because there's a lot of odd diversity there.
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But I did live in this place called Athens, Alabama, and that was the sticks.
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Athens is the city of the county city of Limestone County.
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Well, I was born in Huntsville, but I lived here during like middle school and high school.
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Did you guys have like school dances and stuff over there?
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Did you have the one where the girl has to ask the boy?
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Anything you want to know about yourself, just ask me.
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And I remember I'd be at school and it would be like the day the girl was going to give
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Oh, because girls and boys had to have matching shirts for Sadie Hawkins dance.
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You had to get a matching shirt and the girl would buy it.
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But then you had to meet her at school and the day she would give you the shirt, you
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know, she'd call you the night before and she'd be like, my mom got us shirts.
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And you're just nervous anyway, because you're just kind of nervous to be around girls and
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And then she'd get, you'd like meet her for like, and you'd get the shirt and you were
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Were you like a nervous, were you nervous like in junior high and stuff?
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Like, do you remember the first time a guy had to like ask you to a dance or anything
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I think I went to one in like sixth grade or something.
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I played basketball with a couple of brothers, too.
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You did track because track is sort of a – that's me right there.
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Mr. Don on our team, who was the same age as me.
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Like in our town, sometimes like when we got into high school, we would meet outside of
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Did y'all have like different parking lots for different like vibes?
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Okay, at our school we had this, it was called the hick tree, prep tree, and then I guess
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a little bit more like the urban tree kind of, you know, and that's where, yeah, people
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would like be like more beatboxing kind of stuff or people like, you know, cipher and stuff
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Like we had to go in in New Orleans if you really wanted to get ratchet kind of.
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But the problem was that we'd go over there and get drunk and then somebody would have
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And that's what our parents asked every time we got back.
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I watched a documentary about Katrina the other day.
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So they had to take him by helicopter every day into New Orleans and then helicopter him
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So he'd be there like interviewing people that were like, he's like, where are you sleeping
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He's like, all right, I got to get on this helicopter and leave.
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I kind of feel for him some, but yeah, Katrina was pretty bonked, dude.
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I don't remember it that well, but I do remember seeing photos.
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They had like, because the water was really high.
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There were photos where people had like gotten, were like kind of swimming through the water
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and then they got hung up on a fence, like a regular hided fence.
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And then after the water went down, they found bodies just like hanging over the fence.
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I mean, we can look, we can close our eyes if we want, but yeah.
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This was another thing that happened that people don't realize.
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People would be like going, because everywhere was covered in water.
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So people would be going through somebody's backyard.
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They had a swimming pool that people don't know while they're going through the water.
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So yeah, that was kind of, I guess that was something.
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Did they have any tragedies in your area growing up?
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Were you guys like in the tornado belt or anything or head lice or anything?
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Some of my friends definitely got their roofs taken.
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I think I grew up in the head lice belt or whatever, and you'd see people itching all
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I mean, one kid, he was just itching so much at Christmas, I remember he couldn't even
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Um, and that's okay, you know, time passes and time heals all wounds.
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It's really like, it's, um, it's rare, you know?
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I mean, you've just had such an ascent, you know, with your career.
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Um, what are, what are parts that are kind of scary right now?
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Um, and just knowing like what's the right decision to make and trying to learn all that
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And is it decisions about like what, what song to do?
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I feel like I'm also dealing with like, I've dealt with some like hate for the first time.
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And that's something I'm trying to like figure out.
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So I got to figure out how to like navigate it.
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Um, was it with the Ko Wetzel song, that kind of stuff or just other stuff?
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I mean, that's definitely, yeah, that was prominent, but.
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Cause you had a song with Ko Wetzel and people were upset.
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I couldn't even figure out kind of why they were upset.
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I thought it was really a great, I thought it was really awesome.
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I think they were just pissed that like, that's that it wasn't just him probably, you know?
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Cause you know, sometimes you just want a song and it's like, you just want that person.
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Did anybody say a really good burn and you were like, yeah, that.
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Does anybody, cause sometimes you read a comment and you're like, that's so good.
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But, um, and would it just make you like kind of nervous about it or?
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Cause like nobody would say that to me in person.
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This guy looks like somebody that might have matches on him.
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I don't know why, but that one feels really bad.
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So yeah, sometimes you read stuff, it, uh, it really, it really kind of, you feel kind
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of cooked by it and you can't write back cause then you're in the trend, then you're in
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I can already tell you're a horrible influence.
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So you're growing up in Huntsville and then how did things start kind of popping?
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You're doing music, you're running track and what's going on.
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You run by the music teacher and just hit some bars or what?
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No, I started like posting online and then it just kind of took off from there.
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So do you think that the, like, now, like, people want to, like, do most young people
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think I need to be good at music or I need to be good on social media, I wonder?
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Probably social media is their first thought, I think.
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So, like, because if you, the music is the first part, I'd say, actually, because you've
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But then the next step is to make sure that can translate onto a screen.
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And, like, in the beginning, were you just kind of screwing around or what happened?
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I was just sitting in my, like, in my house in the basement and I would just, like, film
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And then one of those blew up and then it was right when COVID happened.
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Oh, and so you just, were you, at first you were just doing covers?
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And then did you start writing some, like, what was one of your first songs that you wrote?
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I just didn't post it when I was 11, which is so good.
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You know, even you get your, even it does well at 11 and then you're like, fuck, I'm 12
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and I have all this, it's a huge, like, if you want to be able to really, like,
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have a career, that's such a long career to have, to even get to 30.
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Also, and then you look back and you're like, things you say when you're 11, it's not how
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Like, man, I wish these girls would leave me alone.
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And then 12, you're like, damn, where the hoes at?
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Some kids are, and I don't see that kind of stuff.
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A lot of these look like, um, missing person photos.
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You're just, hey, just scroll through really quick again like that a little bit.
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No, and it was scary because people would, like, make fun of you at high school.
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Yeah, to put yourself out there like that and then go to school, like, if you have one
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Yeah, and a bunch of them didn't pop before one popped.
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But when one popped that next day, you were like, what's good?
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And you'd see the, like, where you can see that people would send something.
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But when there's, like, three, you're like, fuck.
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And, you know, it's just three people in your school would be like, look what the fuck
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And so you were like, if you would sing in front of your class, whatever, and people
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Oh, I remember, like, talent show is where you got to do something.
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And so since we didn't have TikTok, we had an actual talent show where people had to do
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If you wanted, you basically got one TikTok for the year, and it was live at night.
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Because it was like, you get up a talent show, and that would be it.
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And people would just, the next day, people would be like, you suck.
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But if he is, I'm going to take his life and his skills.
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Yeah, not as much, but that's just our history.
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You finally realize, I'm doing well enough on TikTok, I can come out of the basement.
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And then how do you start to write your first song?
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I think I like, something like made me so sad or mad or something.
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And I just wanted that person to know how I felt so bad.
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Yeah, because a lot of your stuff, it's like, dang, she is.
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A lot of your stuff gives me, like, bereaved, like, revenge chick vibes.
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A close relation of friend through their death.
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To be deprived of a loved one through a profound absence.
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Yeah, because sometimes you put stuff in your, I'm like, God, who's she mad at, you know?
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Or where's, some of it has a little bit of revenge in it, though.
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That's the most motivating emotion, I'd think, so.
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Which is just, yeah, it's like revenge's fancy cousin that wears a tie, I guess.
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Yeah, it's like, oh, I'll show these, and then I use, you know, things you don't say
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at church or say to your grandmother at your grandmother's house, you know?
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I'll collaborate with people sometimes, but I always am a writer.
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I mean, I feel weird as like a man saying that, because I almost feel like it's, I don't want
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to say it's music for women, because music can be for anybody.
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So I think I could just, I was like, what the fuck is going on here?
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And so, yeah, there were so many things I was like, yeah, I just loved it.
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And it was kind of weird, because I would tell my buddies, I was like, have you heard
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And they're like, what the fuck are you talking about, dude?
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Because you're at home, you're building some cloud in your town.
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I think, I think there was this one song, people started reaching out through email.
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But I don't really remember how all that happened.
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And my mom also like helped me with a lot of it.
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Your family does, um, your family's not trainees.
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So your dad sometimes has like grease on his arms or whatever?
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She works, she doesn't like build transmissions.
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My mom dated a mechanic I think for a little while.
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I don't know if she, I think she just needed new tires to be honest with you.
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How do you get from where we're at when we're, like, where you're in your town to that place?
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And I spent a week there and just made music for a week.
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And that was my first time, like, going anywhere for music.
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It was my first time, like, going on a plane other than for, like, cheerleading.
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And I just remember being so, like, oh my God, I want to do this the rest of my life.
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And then sometimes you can't even remember what you were doing.
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So, maybe we don't even have to learn about all that stuff about you.
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Do you have, like, a pre-show routine that you do?
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And I'll put on, lately I put on Sexy Red every time.
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Like a, yeah, something that reminds you of, like, a car freshener.
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You can tell you grew up poor if your candles match your car freshener smells, I think.
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Like, hey, light up that new car smell candle, you know?
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No, but I used to go there to get, like, presents for your girlfriend or something.
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Some lady comes over in an apron, and she's like, yeah, can I help you?
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I need a damn scent that expresses my fucking feelings, lady.
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I got in there and got out, you know, did what I had to do.
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My first girlfriend was kind of like a, she was, like, pretty masculine, I guess.
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And she would, the school bus would come, and my brother's friend, it would pick them up first.
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So they'd already be on the bus, and she would pick me up and give me a kiss goodbye at the school.
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But she would fucking, I remember, and they would, you could hear them, the windows would be up,
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because the driver would get mad if he put them down.
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You could hear them howling through the bus windows.
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I don't want to say it, because I'm sure she's a beautiful.
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I think she just, you know, some people, she's a late bloomer, you know?
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No, I actually feel like girls probably, like, mature faster at that age.
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Damn, that's a weird image in my head right now.
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She played second base, I think, on the, for what sport?
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But all I'm saying is, was she was a tough gal, and I was just glad that we had each
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And that's the one you got Bath and Body Works for?
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And she wanted, like, a lot of, like, Atlanta Braves, like, baseball gear and stuff like that.
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She played, yeah, she played a woman's baseball.
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Anyway, yeah, I'm trying to think, what do I have in there?
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And I just got, and I walked in this, if you're listening on audio, it's just a picture of
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me and Sexy Red, and then there's, I have this Suicide Boys shirt on, and I'd just gotten
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that, there was a room next door, I was asking, I was like, you guys know where there's a
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And, like, the people right next door have a bunch of clothes, and I just walked in there,
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I just found a song that I really like by them.
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And yeah, I tried to invite her out to do something, but she got pregnant.
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Because a lot of women are like, I can't, I have to wash my hair.
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And I know, I was like, I even asked my buddy, I was like, you don't think she got pregnant
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He's like, you think someone would get pregnant because she doesn't want to go out with you,
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That's some real, like, people pleasing shit right there.
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Oh, and then, so yeah, before my show, what will I do?
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And I'll put my yoga mat in my green room, and then I will have like a couple sips out
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of a coffee, and I'll listen to some FGL or some Boosie, or maybe some Morgan, and then
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It's actually, how long have you been doing it?
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So I do it probably three times a week right now, but it just makes you feel, I don't
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Like bird or bald eagle or whatever that stuff is.
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Whatever that other one is, Hurt Camel or something.
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You got to be a woman to be able to do that one, I think.
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But it's, yeah, I think there's just a lot of different ones.
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When you guys made this video, Wild Ones, this was, um, because this whole thing's just
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How long did you guys, how many times did you guys do it?
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But I don't think, I don't know if I've watched the full video.
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Yeah, and you would just be sitting there forever, and then if people see you listening
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Sometimes I'll feel bad, like I'm in the airport editing it or something, and I'll
00:37:57.180
see someone, if they see my computer, and like, oh God, it's sad.
00:38:06.920
It's like, it's not my business to be watching it.
00:38:14.900
Yeah, so like, yeah, what are some collaborations?
00:38:16.780
Because like, so collaborations so far, you've had Coe, Jelly Roll.
00:38:37.540
I've only done one with a girl, but I think I'd like to do more.
00:38:42.460
You gotta, you gotta pick and choose wisely, you know?
00:38:47.040
Like, so do somebody pitch you a collaborator first or, and then they pitch you a song or
00:38:52.760
Or do they pitch both of you guys a song at the same time?
00:38:55.500
Well, since I write my stuff, it's like, I'll make a song and I always make it just
00:38:59.700
I never like make it thinking about like, this is going to be a collab.
00:39:03.620
So I'll make it and then I'll just have to delete my second verse.
00:39:08.300
Cause they have to get to write their own stuff, huh?
00:39:12.640
Especially if it's a guy, cause like the perspective's normally different.
00:39:16.280
Who would you collab with if you were a singer?
00:39:19.460
Would you be a singer or would you be like a rapper?
00:39:22.440
Oh, I was hoping you were going to say dancer, but I'll, um, oh, I don't know about a rapper.
00:39:33.500
I would think I would be like a country DJ kind of.
00:39:39.380
Well, I hate is you go to EDM club or something like that.
00:39:41.420
You go to like a, uh, you know, even in Vegas, you got some of the nightclubs.
00:39:44.860
A lot of times it's like, you know, it's Diplo, John Summit, Chainsmokers, all good stuff.
00:39:51.040
Love fun to go to, fun to listen to, but they never have like that, a DJ that's kind of like
00:39:57.620
I feel like if you did like a country DJ in some of those places, it would like, people would
00:40:03.640
You know, I really feel like there aren't enough of those.
00:40:08.820
Well, then I just think people would, uh, I think people would be like, what the fuck
00:40:16.140
And if it was bad, it's like, I'm already doing one thing, but if I could do something,
00:40:21.140
oh, I know what, I would be a Christmas singer.
00:40:25.980
Yeah, maybe that way I only work one month out of the year.
00:40:29.800
So, and when they know when I show up is business, no, not a caroler, dude.
00:40:36.600
A Christmas singer is a dang, a good person that sings Christmas and sings about Christmas,
00:40:51.280
No, that guy's a Pentecostal, and that guy's been through a lot.
00:40:56.060
That's a great, but that guy's had a lot of tough times in his life.
00:41:00.660
Yeah, I would think, yeah, I would probably be, oh, uh, oh, jazz, maybe something like
00:41:16.740
I'd be like, oh, I'd have like a name, like Mystery or something, like a stripper's name,
00:41:29.040
And it would be called Mystery Toe, like mistletoe.
00:41:37.120
We're supposed to be talking about you, Jessie.
00:41:56.580
But there's a couple that really must have just.
00:42:08.140
I think it's one reason why so many people can like relate to all types of things, probably.
00:42:12.840
It's kind of crazy that we break each other's hearts, you know?
00:42:19.400
Dude, it's so crazy because like how you feel, your heart, it's pretty important.
00:42:23.900
And then you freaking, you're like, here you go.
00:42:28.140
And then everything is good for a little while.
00:42:44.700
I mean, things happen and you like go through things and you see things.
00:42:48.800
And I think it's more, with this album specifically, I think it's more of like a build up of things.
00:42:54.440
Like something set me off and then it just made me think about everything else and I was just fucking angry.
00:43:02.820
You go to a shooting range or anything like that?
00:43:15.900
As I get there, I was trying to be cool and stuff up front, at the counter or whatever.
00:43:26.140
The guy's like, all right, just here's your guns.
00:43:30.840
And the guns were just sitting there and I was like, are you going to bring the guns in there for us?
00:43:35.600
And he put them just like in this little like kind of like a bin they would give you at the airport or whatever.
00:43:46.620
No one had ever taught me how to use a gun or anything.
00:43:57.840
And so I'm in there and I was like, oh, use yours first.
00:44:08.720
And, you know, because women need to be able to defend themselves or whatever.
00:44:15.400
And she's like, I don't know how to use a gun, you know.
00:44:17.680
And then I realized like, oh, shit, I don't know how to use a gun.
00:44:22.100
And then I realized you're in there and there's other people.
00:44:34.020
But like you're facing your target and there's a wall on the side of you.
00:44:36.780
But right around the edge of the wall is just the next person shooting.
00:44:40.320
So you could literally, like if you hated somebody, you could just shoot over that way.
00:44:53.720
So then I said, look, I'm going to be honest with you.
00:45:06.640
And so we went back and like, he gave us some kind of like easier guns to use or whatever.
00:45:27.480
It was just, it was fine, but it was just a lot.
00:45:30.040
But after that, I learned how to use a firearm, they call it.
00:46:09.400
I mean, I just live in kind of like a regular neighborhood, I guess.
00:46:17.500
I've been looking at some houses, but I've just been touring so much and here sometimes
00:46:20.560
that I'm like, if I bought a different house, I wouldn't be able to be there to live
00:46:29.320
So Dirty, that's the new single off of the album?
00:46:34.720
And the album's called If These Men Come Around, I'm Gonna Kill Them?
00:46:44.000
You'd almost rather have somebody shoot you than to say you were the devil, you know?
00:46:59.460
It actually makes me really happy that you think it's bad.
00:47:09.660
Yeah, you are, you got the dark arts in you, I think.
00:47:21.740
The song that just came out, The Dirty, Teddy Swims.
00:47:27.560
He's such a, I saw this great TikTok of him the other day.
00:47:32.500
Somebody was singing on the street, and then he walked up and sang with him.
00:47:58.940
Oh, how many times, how many times did I tell you I'm no good at being alone now?
00:48:43.800
Was that pretty wonderful to get to, what was it like when you first met him?
00:48:51.720
Oh, it sounds like he has a thousand years just trapped inside of him.
00:48:57.460
Like somebody just screaming through a fucking wishing well of beauty.
00:49:17.120
I went and saw the Grateful Dad and Company and John Mayer's plays with them.
00:49:22.900
And sometimes he'll hit a note and it feels like he's trying to find the exact note that
00:49:29.400
will take us all to the end of time or something.
00:49:41.240
And then here's a couple of Viettes right here.
00:50:44.920
I had this song, Dirty, that I made probably about a year ago today.
00:50:59.760
And he was like, you trying to let me get on Dirty.
00:51:19.640
So, that happened and I was kind of just like waiting on that.
00:51:36.140
How long after you saw, okay, Drake sent you a freaking message and you're like, how long
00:51:44.640
He's one of my favorite, like, just like songwriters in general.
00:51:48.400
It's like if somebody from the Bible sent you a message or something.
00:51:52.960
But I don't, yeah, no, I was definitely freaked.
00:51:57.400
Do I even wear something nice to text him to message him back?
00:52:01.840
I mean, I was like a little like, I don't know what to, I didn't know what I thought.
00:52:06.580
I was like, hey, I definitely asked a couple people.
00:52:17.720
But anyways, it didn't happen, but it made me realize that I did want, I wanted somebody
00:52:25.240
So, um, and I was like, fuck, well, who should it be?
00:52:35.220
He made me, he really made me realize like this song would be sick as a collab.
00:52:42.020
So I asked my fans, I just like asked TikTok and they were like, I got an overwhelming response
00:52:49.500
And once I saw it, I was like, oh my God, a fucking chorus.
00:52:53.620
So I hit him up and he like did a verse and it, it's incredible.
00:53:16.080
He's like, almost like a, somebody cut a power cable and it's just fucking that one that's
00:53:20.040
just like that on the street, you know, like the city hasn't come to fucking clamp it down
00:53:26.180
I love his energy is always, anytime you're around him, you feel like kind of like just
00:53:46.040
What did he do before he did like, I don't know.
00:53:48.500
Somebody said, I think he was in lawn care or something.
00:54:00.020
Teddy Swims grew up in Conyers, Georgia over there.
00:54:02.420
His father introduced him to soul music at an early age.
00:54:08.020
Swims family were American football enthusiasts.
00:54:10.040
He had been playing American football for 10 years.
00:54:12.140
During his second year at Salem high school, he must've been held back.
00:54:16.280
And if he played for 10 years in high school, Jesus, no judgment, dude.
00:54:33.960
I would say, yeah, we had some disagreements maybe on the invoice at the end of the year.
00:54:45.880
You know, that's one thing that's amazing about TikTok, um, is just how many artists you can find, you know?
00:54:53.740
And there's, like, things that'll come across, like, um, I know you had Maddox Batson on your show.
00:54:59.740
And I just saw, like, his videos, and people would tag me in him and be like, oh, Theo, this looks like you when you were a kid, or this reminds me of you.
00:55:06.200
And so then, next thing you know, like, he showed up, and we went for a ride.
00:55:15.000
Um, and we got to listen to, like, his first new song.
00:55:33.200
It's, like, oh, you can hear a lot of, um, yeah, you can just hear, like, a lot of new artists.
00:55:47.540
Because then it's, like, I don't think you develop any of your own, like, thoughts or real, like, or not thoughts, but.
00:55:52.900
He's a fucking adolescent or whatever it's called.
00:55:57.320
Yeah, it's, like, people compare him to Justin Bieber all the time, you know?
00:56:00.800
So that's also tough because you're, like, how does he just be himself?
00:56:09.880
Yeah, he kind of just acts already like he's a star.
00:56:21.160
The kid doesn't really, he probably doesn't really, like, it doesn't feel like it's crazy
00:56:25.840
Right, because also I think at that age you feel like, almost all kids probably feel like
00:56:29.660
a star anyway because you're, like, just that vibrant, crazy energy, you know?
00:56:33.780
Right, so he's just, like, no, but he's great, dude.
00:56:38.720
I'm trying to think of who else that I'll follow or listen to.
00:56:48.300
She comes from Super Spies, go to the private school.
00:56:58.080
And they have, after when I'm leaving stage, that's a song that we play all the time.
00:57:44.760
So was he, like, part of some of your, like, how did that, did you have to incorporate
00:57:56.600
Like, he's always just been obsessed with guitar, and he writes, too.
00:58:11.740
It's just, like, also a sense of, like, home and family.
00:58:38.080
She's like, if I pulled up, I was, like, hurt or something.
00:58:43.420
I mean, I think she's probably educated, you know.
00:58:45.900
She knows what she's doing, but I wouldn't let her.
00:59:01.660
Like, do you start to strategize more these days with social media?
00:59:04.760
Or do you feel like you do things kind of whimsical?
00:59:10.100
Or is it like, do you have, like, almost a calendar where you know when you're going to put out what?
00:59:14.720
I feel like, yeah, no, we're, strategizing is a big part of it.
00:59:22.220
I just want to, like, put out the music and then step away.
00:59:24.960
You always seem very, like, on your socials, it always seems like super, just you kind of having a good time.
00:59:32.660
Like, just, you know, singing some of the bars of the songs and that's it.
00:59:36.900
You know, it just feels, it feels like you're just at home just doing whatever you want, you know?
00:59:43.340
But you do have to, like, think about when you're going to do this and when you're going to do that and why you're doing, you know?
00:59:50.600
Anything that's too planned freaks me out, I think.
00:59:55.260
Well, once you start, and I start noticing, too, it's like, well, let's do this or do the edit.
00:59:58.700
And it's the second you start to feel that it's becoming too edited, I can already tell it's not going to be good.
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01:01:27.760
I never thought I was going to move ever, ever.
01:01:40.600
And how do you – and first you moved to Athens to Nashville?
01:01:52.660
It was just really – like I said, I went to middle school and high school there.
01:01:57.840
And it was really, really small and super conservative, like so conservative.
01:02:10.080
I like sang at church for a little bit, but I cuss a lot in my songs and shit, and that
01:02:22.280
Especially when me doing cheer was like really serious.
01:02:24.600
They would like make me like run laps if I like posted something and there was a cuss
01:02:29.520
I would have to like run miles for every cuss word.
01:02:42.080
Most of the guys are allowed to curse in the South, but women are mostly for – more
01:02:52.780
That's like – those were like – used to be the big women thing.
01:03:09.920
Babies and then I think the second semester was – I want to say omelets.
01:03:29.620
Home economics course is often used to learn how to cook, how to do taxes, and how to
01:03:37.000
But yeah, I feel like guys should do that too though, no?
01:03:44.000
We had to build a – how to like de-hoof a horse or whatever.
01:03:51.400
They had a farrier come and he would show us how to do the thing.
01:03:54.740
I'm like, dude, I don't even – I'm fucking – I can barely like a – like we get one
01:04:00.980
If I do this to my shoes, mom's going to fucking – mom's going to drive over my legs
01:04:11.320
How like you're never really using anything you learned in school?
01:04:15.960
I think the stuff we should teach kids is like, hey, how do you be nice to somebody
01:04:20.260
How do you recognize maybe if somebody else is having a tough day?
01:04:37.500
Is there really – do you feel like less of an interaction in your generation?
01:04:42.220
I mean for everybody right now though and I think just because of like – I mean it's
01:04:46.720
because of social media but like it's weird because we're so connected but we're so disconnected.
01:04:53.520
Young adulthood is no longer one of life's happiest times.
01:05:01.460
Because you have a lot of fans that are kind of like – you know, you do touch on that
01:05:05.020
space of like I want to feel something, you know?
01:05:09.700
I do think it's because of like you're spending hours a day like on a phone and you're seeing
01:05:14.720
all these things and it's – you're not meant to see that much I don't think as a human.
01:05:19.260
And you see it and you're like – then your brain is just going crazy and then you compare
01:05:29.100
But it's – I think it's really damaging for people like in high school and middle
01:05:33.340
Well, you compare yourself so much – and here's one thing I realize.
01:05:38.700
But then if you see a thousand pictures of other – that are not even real – like
01:05:46.820
Or then you see those, then you're going to think, oh, this – you can't help but
01:05:56.000
I think sometimes it's hard because here – the phone isn't playing fair.
01:05:59.120
It's like if there's filters and stuff, that's not even the real person or the lighting
01:06:06.180
But we're all getting tricked into thinking that there's something better out there.
01:06:12.420
You know how many like relationships end probably because of that?
01:06:16.660
You know how many relationships end because of Snapchat?
01:06:33.480
Yeah, people are – and sometimes – now, a couple years ago, I would look at Snapchat,
01:06:38.640
but sometimes you would open it up and there would just be like a ding.
01:06:49.160
Yes, and you're like, where is – what is happening or something?
01:06:52.100
And it would be like, come to Memphis or something.
01:06:59.800
Well, that's a crazy thing on Snapchat is it's just – you have no idea who the fucking
01:07:08.720
Then I don't know how I got – I don't know because there's like 70 people that can send me stuff
01:07:13.120
and I don't know any of them and I don't know how they're able to.
01:07:15.920
Maybe when I first started, I might have hit the wrong button.
01:07:27.380
There's some guys from Scotland who are always doing blow and sending dick pics to me.
01:07:34.220
They either sound Scottish or they've done so much blow that they just can't speak English.
01:07:42.800
You think I want a dick pic with no audio, dude?
01:07:49.380
Sometimes it's like you'll hear them doing little football chants or just talking in Scottish.
01:07:59.560
Yeah, just a picture is like, oh, anybody could do that.
01:08:06.500
All right, I don't want to think about it anymore.
01:08:26.160
But sometimes I do want to go because lately I've – like when I was in high school,
01:08:30.340
I never – I hated that shit and I didn't want to learn anything.
01:08:33.560
But now I feel like – I don't know if it's my age or what, but I just want to learn so much.
01:08:38.660
I'm trying to – I want to like force myself to read boring books because I just want to know more.
01:08:50.760
I just wanted to go because I knew it was like the craziest one.
01:08:53.900
Like just go there, eat in the student union or something?
01:08:56.820
I wanted to go and be a lawyer, which I would have been a fucking terrible lawyer.
01:09:07.580
Some of your energy, I feel like you want the – you want – you –
01:09:15.700
It's like the songs are like the part of me that I'm not.
01:09:25.080
It's like my alter – it's like what I – you know?
01:09:31.040
Yeah, I think when I'm – I don't feel as confident off a stage as I do when I'm on stage.
01:09:35.380
I never even thought about that until just now.
01:09:36.740
It's just like what you got to get out, you know?
01:09:53.040
I'll – I'll – yeah, I'll see if I can help you out.
01:10:02.640
Find a fighter to walk out to one of your songs to, one of those bad bitches that are in the league.
01:10:08.120
I watched a woman punch a tit off another woman.
01:10:13.540
And if you catch it, you win like a hat or something.
01:10:20.160
I have seen – oh, a woman punched a woman's freaking eyelash off the other night in Denver.
01:10:41.120
What's the – what glue are women using on the head?
01:10:55.460
No, but the ones that they do like – they'll go in there with like tongs and they'll do
01:11:02.380
And I hope that wasn't that because if it was, her real eyelashes got it.
01:11:13.360
Because I don't think she's gluing strip lashes.
01:11:43.740
Is that fucked up that we like to watch that as humans?
01:11:46.320
No, because I think it goes back – I think at first –
01:11:49.000
At first, it is fucked up, but then you have to recognize that these guys are fighters
01:11:53.660
It's like, yes, they want to beat each other up, but they also want to show their skill
01:12:01.820
Anything, it's like I want to put myself out there.
01:12:04.320
So I think – I used to sit there and kind of feel bad, but now I realize I just have
01:12:08.900
maximum respect for both of the men or women that are in there because they're doing
01:12:18.620
Yeah, it's – no, the one on the – her right eye is still on, and you can see it's
01:12:37.460
I – well, high school, like 17 was just rough for me, and I think I did that to cope with
01:12:46.220
But the older I got, the more I just realized how bad it makes you feel.
01:12:49.680
Like, I can't tour and drink a lot anymore because it just wrecks me.
01:12:56.220
Oh, you have to take care of yourself so much when you tour.
01:13:00.940
That's why, like, the other day people were ripped – or, you know, Morgan Wallen canceled
01:13:06.460
And Jelly Roll, like, went and did a show, which I thought was really sweet to try to
01:13:11.020
But also, it's like – and people were like, fuck him or whatever, you know.
01:13:16.800
And he's been touring for three years straight.
01:13:22.060
I mean, I think he's had maybe a couple months off here and there, but not a long time.
01:13:27.040
Remember, he was touring after the first album, and then he put out the double out.
01:13:33.280
So, I can only fathom that he's pretty burnt at certain moments, you know.
01:13:48.760
Like, he probably has a lot of fucking songs to sing.
01:13:54.680
That shit is so – I don't know how people do that long of tours and not have to cancel
01:14:00.280
You never want to have to do it, but, like, you can't sing if you can't fucking
01:14:04.300
How much wear and tear is it really in your voice?
01:14:06.220
As a comedian, it's like, you know, it's some, but it's not –
01:14:11.180
Yeah, it's more like just making sure your mental state is okay to go out there and build
01:14:17.500
this energy of, like, we're having a good time, you know?
01:14:24.220
Like, what would be warrants for you to not do a show or you're just broad-talking it
01:14:32.220
So, for me, nothing really unless I was hurt or unless something like –
01:14:38.200
But for a singer, is it realistic that it could come up to a, like, three or four in the
01:14:42.860
afternoon and you're athlete and you're like, I can't do it?
01:14:45.640
I mean, it depends – like, fuck, I had to cancel one one time.
01:14:56.100
I was just throwing up, like – like, I just couldn't, like, walk very far without,
01:15:02.480
So, I had to cancel it, you know, when you're just, like, weak and shit.
01:15:07.480
And you try to open a Gatorade and you can't open it.
01:15:11.300
You're laying on the bathroom floor, just curled up.
01:15:21.000
Oh, that's why a lot of people go like that to the crowd.
01:15:25.080
But some people fucking – some people fake it, which is crazy.
01:15:32.440
No, I knew that people have been accused of it.
01:15:40.160
I'm just – allegedly, I've heard that she does it.
01:15:45.000
Somebody went to one of their shows recently that said they bring a sofa out there and she just lays on the sofa the whole time.
01:15:54.720
Because can you even imagine, like, you're like, I'll go on tour.
01:16:00.960
She's sitting on the couch and she's not singing?
01:16:09.420
They're like – she just laid on the couch the whole time in her pajamas and sang.
01:16:13.460
They're like, it was cool, but it was also like, this seems pretty crazy.
01:16:22.340
Have you seen that crab that's eating a gusher on the internet?
01:16:31.540
A lot of just positivity, a little bit of tits, probably, honestly, to be honest with you.
01:17:37.580
I thought we, we got to see her eat the gusher.
01:18:04.740
I like, I mean, in Louisiana, we had a lot of crabs.
01:18:22.420
I thought a hush puppy was from Huntsville, Alabama.
01:18:25.360
Where's the home of, where did hush puppies get started?
01:18:31.120
Yeah, I like the ones that are a little sweeter.
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But I don't like the ones that have like jalapenos in them.
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I like them, but I don't like them in a hush puppy.
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It appears that it originated with Native Americans.
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In Southern cuisine, can we say, find out where?
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Oh, did you see that white horse that they have?
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It's the fanciest horse they have, the most expensive horse in the world.
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Because it was elected the most beautiful horse in the world because of its coat.
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And it comes from a lineage of racehorses with a great track record.
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So it's for these two reasons that at auction, it went for over $50 million.
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I like them, but I think they gotta like you, you know?
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Dude, I remember the first time I ever stayed in an expensive hotel room.
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I was like, dude, this is like $600 a night, dude.
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It's like, I'm definitely gonna get my money's worth or whatever.
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Do you guys ever get stopped by the police in your tour bus?
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We do tour bus and sometimes, yeah, sometimes we fly.
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Have you ever had any good run-ins with the police?
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No, I mean, shit like getting chased in high school.
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Starts yelling, bro, for people to call the police.
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I think he was on, I don't know, some type of drugs.
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He's like, these guys stole my arms, dude, right?
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The cop comes over and goes like this, like we have his arms.
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Dude, one night, my buddy Billy invites me over.
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I don't know if I went outside to get someone in my car or something.
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He locks himself in the gas station, calls the police.
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This was in Madisonville, Louisiana, a beautiful area.
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I don't know if it's illegal or not, but it's not that good of weed.
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Is that even put together yet or you don't know?
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I know you had Charlie on Friday on one of your tours.
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And Shabuzi was, and that's when he was really blowing up, right?
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This was like, this was like two months ago, maybe?
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He has another song out there now that people are vibing to.
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Yeah, his song with Noah Cyrus, I feel like you'd like.
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Dude, but I'm sure a lot of agents submit people through, like, what about this guy?
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Do you feel like you have pressure to listen to any of that?
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Like, if you, like, sell out, then you can pick whoever you want.
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I'll be doing my first Arena show, which is really sick.
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I don't want to sing them because I don't want people to think I'm that weird anymore.
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That was kind of a, like, it was, like, kind of strange that I was like, oh, this one's
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I don't want to fucking, I don't want this to be how it ends, you know?
01:25:18.420
There was, like, a church or something, and they were doing a, and whoever was doing
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the audiovisual accidentally played a, played a, played a, played a song, or played a clip
01:25:34.560
So, yeah, tell me something else before you leave.
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But you know how they have, like, the painted shells?
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And what, do you get them done at, like, a salon or whatever?
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So, I get the shell, and I didn't, it had, like, a bad one on, so I took it out.
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And so, and I tried to put it into the new shell, and it just wouldn't, and then it died.
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I'm trying to think, if you're trying to get something, you know, what you're thinking about getting?
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I'll fucking watch one of them bitches eat a nerd rope, homie.
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Next time I see you, I'm going to bring you a crab.
01:26:57.840
I think you want to kick a fat kid at K-Market.
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I think you want to kick a fat kid at K-Market.
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That might be my favorite clip I've seen all day.
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I mean, it's kind of like a trans dolphin or whatever.
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Like people can, I don't know if this is safe, but people can give birth and the dolphins
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Yes, I swear it's a thing, unless I'm confused, but I really think this is-
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This isn't that thing that happened outside of Waco, was it?
01:28:32.160
Dolphin-assisted birth, a newer take on water births, is apparently a trend growing in popularity.
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The Sirius Institute in Hawaii, a new age center dedicated to encouraging the bonds between dolphins and humans, often assisted childbirth.
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However, it's unclear if any women have actually gone through with it.
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One couple from North Carolina traveled to the center for prenatal bonding, but the actual birth with dolphins didn't happen.
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Somebody's had to do it, though, if it's a trending thing.
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According to a website, pioneering Russian midwife Igor Sharkovsky began assisting births in the Black Sea with dolphins that live there.
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Some of the reported occurrences included a mother and a baby playing with the dolphin within 45 minutes of the birth, another instance of a free dolphin escorting a newborn human baby to the surface for its first breath.
01:29:27.320
If my baby is born, I'm not giving it to a fucking dolphin, dude, for even 30 seconds.
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But then you're like, oh, it didn't work or what?
01:29:56.480
Taking the child home safely and feeding him and probably homeschooling him and making sure that your home is protected with a ring camera.
01:30:25.980
Have you any new mentors that have come into your life through, like, you know, sometimes you meet some of your favorites and you meet any of them that I kind of, like, has Madonna spoken to you?
01:30:42.660
There are people I look up to a lot that I know, like, communication, like Adele.
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I've seen her in person somewhere, but I've never seen her live.
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Did you ever perform right after at a venue as her or anything like that?
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No, I performed in some of the same venues, maybe.
01:31:09.540
Because, I mean, she went on, like, smaller tours earlier in her career.
01:31:19.520
No, but I don't know how this happened, but she, like, signed a set list.
01:31:26.240
I think it was just a, somebody was like, can you please do this?
01:31:30.740
It's on my wall and it's my favorite thing, Alan.
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Let me think if somebody gave me something that was real nice one time.
01:31:45.620
The guy that's in Better Call Saul one time, I think I was performing somewhere after him
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Bob Odenkirk, but he wrote it, signed it, thought it was pretty nice of him.
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What do I have that's something that's real special?
01:32:07.420
Yeah, what's the best gift you've ever received?
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Or, what's something that, if you could only hang one thing on your wall, what are you hanging?
01:32:25.180
There's a nice piece of art my friend painted, like it was the first piece of art I ever
01:32:29.180
got, and maybe I would hang that there, I guess.
01:32:37.420
He was in a movie called Tommy Boy, Black Sheep.
01:32:47.480
Yeah, he used to do like, he did films like Adam Sandler, David Spade.
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He used to do like, all kinds of like, sketches and shit.
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He was like, the most famous guy that they ever had.
01:33:14.320
No, this is him just going on like a talk show.
01:33:27.080
Like, my buddy would go over to his place sometimes, and he's like, he would just puke on the side of his bed, and then just like, between like the wall and the bed all the time.
01:34:01.560
Anyway, my friend Jeff, he had like anger issues or whatever, and he would just...
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He would play that song, and he would just beat the fuck punch holes all in the walls of his room.
01:34:16.480
Oh, we could tell when he was mad, because you're in there, and you could hear the walls
01:34:22.640
Every year at Christmas, his parents would get his walls redone for him in the room.
01:34:29.440
And then I saw this band one time in Vegas, and I told the lead singer.
01:34:33.660
They're like, this is the lead singer of Offspring, and I was like, bro, you are never
01:34:57.520
Yeah, it's hard to build something, because you're kind of on the go, and your career,
01:35:07.900
My career is just like, I've worked so hard that my career takes first place.
01:35:21.160
A lot of times, it'd be like, yeah, look, I would like to do that, but I just can't
01:35:25.820
But then you start to think, oh, well, then, like, yeah, at some point, there'll be times
01:35:29.360
where I don't have to tour as much, and then maybe I could try to devote more attention
01:35:37.260
It takes attention, and it takes, like, care, I think.
01:35:45.300
I mean, at some point, I'm sure, but is there ever going to be a point where you're
01:35:49.740
And then you bring your family on tour, and then they got to help out.
01:35:54.660
And your wife's selling merch or whatever and calling you an asshole at night, you know,
01:35:59.380
outside of a fucking wallpouse or something somewhere, and you're like, yeah, I am an
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I mean, I think you got to, you know, hope for the best, you know?
01:36:09.440
Dirty, that's the new single that's available now with Teddy Swims.
01:36:33.180
You remind me of, like, Wim and Em a little bit.
01:36:35.120
Like, you're like, kind of like, because you have this, like, he always seems like he
01:36:39.040
has this little bit of a chip on his shoulder, but he manages it well a little.
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Ladies and gentlemen, Jesse Murph, thank you so much, and best of luck with the new album.
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Now, I'm just floating on the breeze, and I feel I'm falling like these leaves.
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Oh, but when I reach that ground, I'll share this peace of mind I found.
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I can feel it in my bones, but it's going to tell you.