This Past Weekend with Theo Von - E526 Donald Trump

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00:01:12.980 You know, my ninth grade civics teacher, Barbara Ohlinger,

00:01:17.740 would be tickled to know that one of her students is getting to sit down with a president today. 1.00

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00:01:32.460 Today's guest is the 45th president of the United States of America, and he's currently running for president on the Republican ticket.

00:01:42.020 He's been an entrepreneur, a businessman, a television personality.

00:01:48.120 We sat down at his club in Bedminster, New Jersey, and we want to thank the crew there for helping us make the production happen.

00:01:57.360 He's one of the most famous people on earth, and I'm grateful for this chance to learn more about the man behind the headlines.

00:02:04.520 Today's guest is Donald Trump.

00:02:08.660 Shine that light on me

00:02:11.620 I'll sit and tell you my stories

00:02:17.620 Shine on me

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00:02:28.760 But your thing is going really great. My son's a big fan of you. He's Barron.

00:02:40.220 Really? Barron is?

00:02:40.920 Yeah.

00:02:41.460 He just graduated high school, right?

00:02:43.660 That's right. He just did. He knows you very well. He said, Dad, he's big.

00:02:47.900 Wow.

00:02:48.260 You're a big one.

00:02:49.360 That's cool.

00:02:50.120 That's good.

00:02:50.580 Well, that's where it is nowadays, right?

00:02:52.600 Yeah, well, it's interesting. Yeah, I can't believe that we're able to get platforms. I started in my kitchen, and then it just evolved out of there.

00:03:01.740 That's fantastic.

00:03:02.700 I mean, it's pretty unbelievable.

00:03:04.220 Do you want to start? You go ahead.

00:03:06.760 Yeah, we're good. Are we rolling?

00:03:07.580 Yeah, sure.

00:03:08.160 We're good.

00:03:09.660 Yeah, does Barron play sports or anything?

00:03:12.760 He does. He plays golf and different sports soccer. Loves soccer. Very good at soccer. He's a good athlete, Barron.

00:03:21.000 Yeah? Is he going to go? Has he already picked a college or no?

00:03:24.180 He has, and he's getting set to go in the fall. Good college, a very good one. And he was always a very good student. He's smart. Smart guy.

00:03:34.060 Which one of, yeah, like which one of your kids, like, yeah, what's something you admire about each one of your sons?

00:03:38.800 Well, Don is a hunter. He's a great, great hunter and knows everything about that world and guns and all. He was the first one that said, Dad, boy, you got lucky because I didn't realize that 130 yards is actually very close in that parlance.

00:03:59.400 And he said, you got lucky. He knew immediately when he saw that, he said, it's incredible because that's considered a pretty close distance.

00:04:08.540 From how far the shooter was?

00:04:09.340 Yeah.

00:04:10.060 Oh, yeah.

00:04:10.620 And the guy wasn't a bad shooter, supposedly, you know. He was a very disturbed guy, but he wasn't a bad shooter.

00:04:16.200 And Eric, likewise, he loves the business. He loves real estate. Also very much of a hunter and understands a lot of things about that.

00:04:26.320 They were sort of, as young guys they were with their grandfather, and he would take them hunting in Czechoslovakia.

00:04:33.460 And somehow they developed very well. 0.99

00:04:36.920 Czechoslovakia, damn. 0.99

00:04:37.560 Yeah, can you imagine? 0.99

00:04:38.500 It's a lot of letters, even.

00:04:39.800 That's a long time. That's a name you don't hear too much anymore, but it was...

00:04:43.460 I'd need a scope just to get through the spelling of that word.

00:04:45.760 That's right. A lot of people.

00:04:46.820 A lot of people.

00:04:47.460 Yeah.

00:04:48.060 But, so he'd go, they'd spend time in Europe and they'd do that. That's where he learned a lot about both of them really good.

00:04:56.300 With your dad they would go?

00:04:57.980 No, grandfather, actually. They had a grandfather who was a wonderful outdoorsman and athlete.

00:05:07.140 And during the summer he'd take them out into the woods and they'd go hunting and lots of things and they loved it. They got to love it.

00:05:13.460 And that's Don and that's Eric.

00:05:15.540 Yeah, they're funny.

00:05:16.640 Oh, yeah.

00:05:17.160 They have a good sense of humor too. Like whenever I see them at UFC, it's like...

00:05:20.260 Yeah, right.

00:05:20.960 Yeah, I just like... The first time I was nervous, I think, and then after that when I've seen them, it's like it's fun to kind of cut up with them a little bit.

00:05:27.840 Yeah, well, they're good guys and they really, they get along great with the rest of the family. We all get along great. We have a good family.

00:05:36.300 But I love UFC. You talk about a great guy. How about Dana White? Good job he does, right?

00:05:42.920 Yeah, I want to thank Dana too for helping get us set up together.

00:05:46.720 Yeah, he makes it happen. I like Dana. He doesn't waste words. He doesn't waste time.

00:05:53.940 He likes to, I think, be efficient and he likes, he has a, seems like a strong sense of integrity for himself.

00:06:00.700 Yeah, nobody like him actually. It's, you know, there's an expression that everybody is replaceable. Not Dana.

00:06:08.360 Nobody could do what he does and he's made that sport into a big monster sport.

00:06:12.100 Yeah.

00:06:12.780 And it's interesting and we go there and we enjoy it, go with him. Sometimes we do walk-ons with Dana and the place sort of likes it.

00:06:20.800 Oh, yeah, I've been there.

00:06:21.780 Yeah, but Dana.

00:06:22.480 There's a video of us. I was in behind you in one, one video. I'm sure the dogs here will pull it up.

00:06:30.460 But yeah, those are some of my favorite, those are some of my favorite things ever.

00:06:33.520 It became, UFC became my favorite sport during the pandemic because Dana was brave enough to stay open, you know.

00:06:38.240 He was it. He was the whole ballgame. He was the only sport.

00:06:40.700 And he, he'd open up in arenas with nothing other than very good fighters.

00:06:46.160 Yeah.

00:06:46.620 And they would be fighting. He had some of the best fights during the pandemic.

00:06:50.020 Yeah.

00:06:50.440 But he was exceptional. There it is right there. See, look, there you are. And I'm right behind you there.

00:06:54.580 Oh, wow.

00:06:55.200 Flapping with that hat on. I'm a white guy in the hat.

00:06:56.880 Oh, that's great. That's right. The white guy in the hat is right. That's great.

00:07:00.500 Yeah. I mean, there's a lot of us there, but I was one of them for sure.

00:07:03.040 That's right.

00:07:03.560 Yeah. See, that's me right there.

00:07:04.800 Good sport, isn't it, huh?

00:07:05.580 Yeah. I'm a Dustin Poirier fan, so.

00:07:07.260 Oh, he's great. He was, boy, I tell you, he's a warrior.

00:07:09.800 That last fight he had, whether you like it or not, he is a warrior.

00:07:14.320 Yeah. Yeah. It felt like he didn't get the, he didn't get the victory, but it didn't feel like he lost.

00:07:18.400 No, he didn't lose that fight. He, he really, the man he was fighting was tough.

00:07:24.300 He was tough and didn't expect that same fight, but he oftentimes will, he, he makes people suffer.

00:07:30.800 There's no question about it. No, he's all, he's all, he's a pro. He's a professional.

00:07:35.080 He's all heart. He's from Louisiana. That's where I'm from.

00:07:37.460 As that fight went along, he just got stronger and stronger and he was getting pounded and he was going to be choked out about four different times and he just wouldn't let it happen.

00:07:47.120 No, you say hello to him. He's good.

00:07:48.800 Yeah. I'll make sure.

00:07:49.920 He's a really great fighter.

00:07:51.120 And he cooks Thanksgiving dinner every year.

00:07:52.980 Oh, wow. Maybe I'll have to go sometime.

00:07:55.640 Oh yeah. I mean, he must do good food.

00:07:57.860 He does. Yeah. He does some good stuff over there. Um, yeah. What was the first, do you remember like the first fight that you ever went to, whether it was, it was UFC or boxing or anything?

00:08:05.460 Yeah, I do. Uh, it was, uh, Joe Frazier, Muhammad Ali in Madison square garden many, many years ago.

00:08:14.040 And I think it was the first fight I went to. I liked, I was like the boxing.

00:08:19.620 How old were you? Remember?

00:08:20.820 Oh boy. I don't know. You can deduct it from what I am now, but it was a long time ago, but they were two undefeated fighters. They were both undefeated.

00:08:29.360 Uh, Muhammad became a friend of it. So did Joe, Jolton Joe. Uh, he was, uh, they were two great fighters. That fight was incredible.

00:08:37.600 I think they had like many heart attacks that night, literally heart attacks in Madison square garden. I think it was Madison square garden.

00:08:45.920 And the fight was so unbelievable. Two undefeated heavyweight champions of the world. There was no UFC and there was no competition really. It was it.

00:08:56.380 And so you had two guys. I remember that Muhammad wasn't allowed to fight because of lots of different things. And, uh, he was a terrific guy, both terrific guys.

00:09:06.000 Very different. And they finally made it happen. They finally made that battle happen.

00:09:08.200 And they made it happen. So you had two undefeated heavyweight champions fighting.

00:09:10.880 And who took you to the fight? You remember?

00:09:12.260 Uh, I went with my father and my brother, Robert. And, uh, it was just, I don't know. I must've been very young. It was a long time ago, but you would never forget it. That was one of those moments.

00:09:24.880 Oh yeah.

00:09:25.300 But no, literally there were like many heart attacks in the arena.

00:09:29.600 Did people having too much fun or what do you think?

00:09:31.260 No, they were just having heart attacks because it was such a crazy event.

00:09:35.160 And it was so, the people were just, I know a friend of mine, a father, he went, uh, he had a bad heart attack. Literally. They took him out. They were taking people out.

00:09:45.820 It's an early KO.

00:09:46.940 And I don't hear that anymore. I mean, there were other exciting sporting events. I don't think there's ever been, I don't know, I guess there has, but you would think Joe Frazier, Muhammad Ali, their first fight, but it was a very exciting time.

00:09:59.320 Yeah. And just people being, I guess, yeah, sometimes our systems aren't ready to handle the amount of excitement that's going on. You know, like, I think like, yeah, maybe people just couldn't even handle so much joy. You think like, you think it was that people were just so excited.

00:10:11.760 They had heart attacks. I mean, they just had, I guess they do it. Maybe Superbowls or something.

00:10:18.160 Oh, people have heart attacks eating a thick soup, you know? So it's like, I'm not surprised that something so awesome like that would make your heart be like, yeah, I'm out.

00:10:27.160 Yeah. But I never hear of it, you know, and I'm sure it happens just that one. But, uh, we had an exciting event the other night with Elon, Elon Musk and me.

00:10:36.300 I listened. We had a pretty big audience for that one. I can tell you. Yeah. I listened for probably about like 20 minutes. I thought it was cool. It was, I think the tough part was just like, uh, the, just like, it would have been neat if you guys could have been in the same spot, you know, but I still thought it was exceptional.

00:10:51.280 I heard the audio was great. And actually they put out a clear tape of it because they had clear tape.

00:10:55.920 Oh, nice.

00:10:56.280 They had so many millions and millions of people watching like record numbers of people. And I'm trying to figure out we're on a cell phone or I was, and you know, that's a lot of people coming into a cell phone one way or the other.

00:11:09.600 Yeah.

00:11:09.880 But I heard some people had a problem with the audio. I don't know. I don't do that thing. You know, that was done. And, and, uh, we had a great conversation. It was for two hours and 15 minutes. They just put out a clear tape of it, a perfect tape of it.

00:11:23.280 Uh, but I, I sounded, I think I sounded, somebody said, uh, your voice was distorted or something. And, and, you know, I guess it happens. Look, it was such a big thing, such a big audio, but I would have, I would have loved to have seen the clear tape originally. They put it out right after the show. So now it's a clear tape where a perfect tape done there.

00:11:44.840 Yeah. But when it goes through different phone systems and everything else, uh, you think if we were together, that doesn't happen then. Cause I think his voice was more clear.

00:11:54.060 Yeah. Maybe because he was the one who, who was like initiating the call. I'm not sure. Yeah. I'm not sure about how, how all that works, but yeah, I know that in post, a lot of times they can tighten things up and make it better. You know, I, um, yeah, it's amazing how Elon, like the cost to have really have your own voice in the world is $44 billion basically.

00:12:12.700 Well, if you want to have your voice, like, you know what I'm saying? He has his own, like he has his own channel and he does what he wants to do. And he's a fantastic guy and he's a brilliant person and the country should be very proud of him. Actually. I have truth, which has been very successful. Uh, true social, you mean true social. Yeah. And that's, uh, been very successful in getting my voice out. Well, I needed a voice because, you know, I was on Twitter and I was on, uh, Instagram. I was on all of it.

00:12:42.340 And, uh, I was on Facebook and when you added it up, I had, I, I was told by, uh, Zuckerberg and others, it was like record setting type of numbers. And then one day I didn't have anything because they canceled. I mean, they canceled.

00:12:58.460 There's such a collusion there, right?

00:12:59.780 Yeah. It was, it was a pretty bad thing. And so I had nothing. So after about a month, you know, I have a lot of things to say. And after about a month, I said, you know what I'm going to do? I'm going to just go out and put out an old public relations statement. You, you remember that. And, uh, although you're a little young to see it, but in the old days you'd put out a statement.

00:13:17.860 And I did, and it was just gobbled up. It was really gobbled up and I opened truth and truth has become terrific. Actually for me, I really want just as a platform. I mean, it's more important than anything else. And at least you have your voice then you can say my voice back. Yeah.

00:13:33.860 I had hundreds of millions of people. Even now, uh, I haven't been too active on X, but, uh, I have, I guess, 90 some odd million people on it. And, but I was much higher than that when I was actually all the people. I don't even know how many people there are.

00:13:50.360 Yeah. I mean, it's been, but I, I love the job he's done and he's brought a certain voice back into, into play. Yeah. The previous people were terrible, terrible. Yeah. Every time you do a thing, you'd be red flagged.

00:14:03.000 Oh yeah. Every statement you made, you'd be red flagged. Yeah. They just, it's almost like, yeah, it's like, um, when you have a babysitter and they don't want to have any fun or whatever. Yeah. Yeah. Right. That's kind of the vibe I got. When you, um, yeah, I see, yeah. Cause I see you at the, at the fights. I see you. Sometimes you'll sit right by Dana and sometimes I'll sit. Yeah. Like me, I'll go with like David Spade sometimes as a close friend of mine. Good. And, um, yeah, I'll see you coming with Kid Rock and, um, yeah. And you don't drink at the fights. No, Kid Rock is, uh, he's terrific. He came to the

00:14:32.880 convention. He knocked him. He knocked everybody out. He was, and he's a great guy. He's just a great guy. He's, he's popular, very popular.

00:14:40.800 Oh, he's, he's definitely, he's a real dirt serpent too, dude. He's a freaking legend, you know? He's, he's a legend. He is a legend, I guess, in a true sense. Oh, a hundred percent. People love him, dude. Look at him. I went to his show not long ago somewhere. And, um, people, I think some guy had a heart attack there too, but it was like, it was more funnel cake related, I think, type of vibes. Um. 0.97

00:15:10.800 People, he's, uh, he's big stuff, but he's really, forget about that. I call him Bob, you know, Bob, right? It's Bob Kid Rock, but it's Bob, but he's, uh, a really good guy. He's a cool cat, right? Oh yeah. I mean, I live in Nashville right when I got in, uh, in, in the town. He, um, yeah, he hit me up one night and it was like, Hey man, I'm having a birthday party this week and you should come. And I didn't even know him, you know? And it was nice of him. And since then we've done a lot of fun stuff together. His brother's missing a leg too, which is crazy.

00:15:39.800 He looks like the lamp. Have you ever seen that movie, the lamp, like from like a Christmas story or whatever? Yeah, I don't know. Yeah. But he's fantastic. The family, the father, I knew very well. He just passed away and it was tough for the brother. I did. And he was, he was fantastic. I got to know him through knowing Bob and I tell you what, it's just a fantastic family. The whole family. No, I love Bob. He and I joke around together a lot. We've spent a lot of time together. Look at his brother right there. That's right. Dude. And you know what? He plays golf and

00:16:09.720 he plays well. He, uh, he hit a perfect drive with me. I said, do you play? We're on the 17th hole. I said, do you play? He goes, yes. I said, Oh, really? You want to hit a shot? And he said, okay. And he got up. Well, it was very hard for him to put the, I mean, it was really a tough situation. Cause he has to get the ball in the ground and the tea and everything else. Nobody did it for him. And he did it. I mean,

00:16:39.720 he swung and I'm a good golfer. He had a perfect shot out to the right with a little hook. Nobody knows what that means in your audience probably, but that's like a perfect shot. And I said, that is perfect. He said, I'll do it again. I said, don't do it again. Cause you'll never be able to hit a shot that good. And it was really amazing. He's a, he's great. And, and, and Bob really do it again.

00:17:02.860 Until he's a repeat offender. They really have an amazing family. Bob's great. I've been to parties at his house. You know, one thing that's really nice about him is I'll go do something with him. And then like a few days later, he'll send a nice note or he'll send like a photo, like a frame photo and just say, Hey man, I had a nice time. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I noticed at the events you don't drink and you don't drink or smoke, right? I don't drink or smoke. You never have. No, I never have. I've had a great brother who taught me a lesson. Don't drink.

00:17:32.860 Don't drink. And he said, don't smoke. He smoked and he drank and he was a great guy. He was a handsome, very handsome guy. Is he older? He was older, quite a bit older. Yeah. And, uh, he would, uh, he had a problem with alcohol and smoke a lot. But you know, I tell people no drugs, no drinking, no cigarettes. Yeah. I tell that to my kids all the time. I'd say no drugs, no drinking, no smoking. And, uh, it was tough. He had, well, he'd always tell me, he'd say never. So he was, uh,

00:18:02.860 you know, really old enough that you would look up to somebody and I'd look up to him anyway. Did you admire him? Yeah. I admired a lot, so much about him. He, he had so much going. He had to look, uh, he had an unbelievable personality, like a, an incredible personality. What was his name, Donald? His name was Fred, Fred Trump.

00:18:24.200 And he had a problem with alcohol. He got addicted to it because it's, and you know, they say alcohol is tougher than drugs to get off of. I've, I don't know if you've ever heard that. I was in recovery. Actually, I've been in, I've been in recovery. So like most of the last 10 years from alcohol, from drugs and alcohol, drugs, which is worse for me. Drugs is the problem. But if I have a drink, then I, it's tougher for me to prevent myself from getting it. It sets off a chain. Yeah. But is,

00:18:54.180 which is harder to quit? I've heard alcohol is harder to quit than drugs. If that makes sense. I don't know. Oh yeah. I mean, I can only imagine because it's probably more readily available. More readily. Well, and it's social and you're sitting and everyone's drinking and all. Yeah. Really? Do you go to a dinner and everybody's eating like, you know, Xanax or something, you know, for appetizers? Usually people are having like a mint, you know, a mint julep or something, a little fancier Negroni. I just learned about. Right.

00:19:24.180 And in my family, my family, it's like, um, yeah. Can you, can you stay away from it? Yeah. I've done a good job. I mean, how long have you been off? I go to recovery meetings. I've been off most recently to a little over two years. Do you ever go back on? Yeah. I've had stints where I go back on and, um, and, and you don't control it. Uh, it's tough. It gets, it goes downhill pretty quick. No kidding. So you think it's going to be easy. You think you're controlling it. And then you're damn, yeah, you're doing go-kart and racing with hookers and stuff. It gets bad.

00:19:54.180 And you're like, I have to not do it. Did you see like with your brother, did you, could you see it or anything? Oh yeah. Man. I was amazed because he, he had so much going and everything going. I think he probably, it happened in college at a fraternity maybe, or I don't know, somewhere along the line it happened. And all of a sudden, you know, this is not unique. This is a very common story, unfortunately, but, uh, and then the family would see it and start to notice it.

00:20:24.180 And, uh, it didn't get better. It didn't get better. I was amazed, you know, he lived, uh, for so long in bad conditions, you know, in terms of, I was amazed that his body could hold out. It held out and it had bad moments. And, but his body was unbelievably strong that it could, that it could withstand this.

00:20:44.800 Yeah. It's a body. You're probably just so resilient. Yeah. Do you remember the last time that you saw him or spent with him?

00:20:50.000 I do. And, uh, I'm sorry to ask you about it.

00:20:53.320 Yeah, I know. Well, you know, the reason it's good talking about it is it might help other people. If it helps one other person, it's worth the conversation.

00:21:02.600 We talk about that stuff a lot on our, on our podcast. Yeah. Yeah. A lot of our audience, uh, struggles or has struggled with, um, alcoholism, addiction, intimacy disorders, all types of stuff, you know?

00:21:14.180 So it's like a, it's pretty kind of normal conversation, but, um, you know, the interesting thing is, and I tell people, so I never had a cigarette and I've never had a glass of alcohol.

00:21:24.640 And my brother was incredible. He would tell me cause he knew he had a problem and he'd say, don't ever drink. Don't ever smoke. He'd always add smoking because he did smoke a lot, uh, which is, you know, not very healthy, but he'd say, don't ever drink. Don't ever drink. He'd tell me every time I said, don't ever drink. Cause he knew he had this addiction.

00:21:43.640 Yeah. Addiction. And I never had a glass of alcohol. Never, ever did I have a glass of alcohol because of him. And I would say that if I did drink, I could, you know, conceivably be the type of personality that would have like you, that would have a problem, but I never had. And the only thing I say to people is if too late for the people that you're talking about, but if you don't drink, you don't miss it. I mean, I, I don't, I don't even think about alcohol or.

00:22:10.800 Right. It's not a part of your world. I don't think about cigarettes. I don't think about any of that. If you, if you don't take drugs or if you don't have alcohol, it's real easy not to drink it. It's one. I had a friend who, uh, went to the Wharton School of Finance with me. He was a very smart guy. Where is it? Wharton School. That's in Philadelphia. That's it. At Penn. Yeah. Rocky. Right. And it's a great, great school, great business school. And, uh, it's part of the university of Pennsylvania, the business school.

00:22:39.760 Oh, it's nice down there. Yeah. My friend's brother went there or something. Well, he ate near there once. Then he was smart because it's a great school. But this, this person that I met, he hated the taste of scotch. Hated it. Couldn't stand it. But he insisted on having it because he wanted, he felt it was important to be able to drink. I said, no, just don't drink. He said, you know, to be successful in business, you have to sort of interact and you have to drink. And I said, don't do it.

00:23:07.860 Anyway, he became an unbelievable alcoholic, uncontrollable alcoholic. Oh, I thought you meant like one of the best. Yeah. And he died. He was a, you know, he, but he hated the taste of scotch. And he still did it. And then he couldn't live without it. Wow. Literally. Well, I think I noticed a lot of like in the recovery rooms and stuff, it's a lot of people that have, they're missing something inside of them. And so they, could be, they take on like, you know, they want to try and fill it up with something else. Yeah.

00:23:37.860 I do. And he'd have periods where he'd get sick, very sick. And we thought we'd lose him or we lost him. Then he'd get better. And that happened five or six times. I mean, well, you thought you lost him and then he got better.

00:23:55.320 Yeah. And it was amazing. I mean, he was, you know, certainly very strong in that sense. And I just tell people it's, it's so tragic. Don't drink. Just don't drink. Yeah. And you're not going to have a problem. Like even you, if you didn't drink, you would never, but you probably, maybe you wouldn't be successful like you are. You know, it's part of your, your story.

00:24:14.740 It's helped me a lot. Yeah. Yeah. Cause I don't know what would happen. Probably. I think it's just too risky. Um, it is something that you miss about him or like that. Yeah. Like what's something that you miss about him, Fred?

00:24:25.800 Well, he was wise in a sense. I mean, think of it. He's got this problem and it was very important for him to convey to me not to have this problem. And I couldn't have been successful if I had that problem. Yeah. If I had that problem. And, and I think maybe I'm a personality type where I could have had the problem if I drank.

00:24:43.880 But if you don't drink, you're never going to have it. I mean, I don't miss when I see somebody light up a cigarette and just they're in heaven. Uh, I don't miss that at all.

00:24:54.320 It's weird. It's so Nate, it's very native American too. Isn't it crazy? Bizarre. And you know, I think sometimes our older brothers, they kind of like, they take the speed bumps for us, like as younger brothers so that we don't have to, you know what I'm saying? Does that, you know what I'm talking about? Like my brother went through a lot of stuff so that I didn't have to go through it. And then I get to see him and learn. 1.00

00:25:12.380 And is he okay now? Yeah. He's doing great now. Yeah. He's doing great now, but it's just, it's like, yeah, that's one of the blessings I think of having an older brother.

00:25:19.740 Well, you can learn through history too, whether, even if it's not a brother, it's by watching other people. I mean, you can see if you have a friend who's an alcoholic or even just by reading about people, you can learn.

00:25:30.040 Oh yeah. It doesn't necessarily have to be a brother, but in this case, it was very personal. It was a brother. And, uh, I learned not to drink and I learned not to smoke cigarettes. Now, I don't know that I would have smoked cigarettes.

00:25:40.860 I probably would have drank. I think, you know, there's no reason not to drink, but I had a reason because he told me, you know, just don't do it. Yeah.

00:25:49.520 Yeah. That was kind of a blessing then, huh? Yeah. And where did you, did they, um, did you guys ever do anything fun together? Like one nice memory that you have with him?

00:25:57.920 Um, he had a great talent for flying. He was a pilot. Oh, sweet. And he loved it. And he ever fly with him? Uh, I did. I flow with him. He, he was a great pilot and a very talented other pilots would come to his house to study with him, watch him fly.

00:26:15.700 Yeah. And he was really talented that, but ultimately he had to give that because of the alcohol. He had to give that up, which was a hard thing for him to do, but he had to give that up.

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00:28:22.400 Yeah, it's crazy. That's the wildest thing to watch is people losing everything, you know?

00:28:27.280 Yeah, no, they lose everything and many, many people. And yet in those days, it wasn't drugs. It wasn't like, don't drink, don't take drugs. I don't think drugs, I don't even know whether they're even a factor. They happened pretty long time ago. But I think in those days, I don't think, were drugs a factor? You go back 25 years ago.

00:28:45.760 Not like it is now.

00:28:46.620 Well, certainly not like now.

00:28:48.140 Yeah, and that actually takes me into something else I wanted to talk about. Like alcoholism and addiction is something that's really ramped up, even like you're saying, like in the past 20, 30 years in our country, right?

00:28:59.580 And during the opioid epidemic, they estimate that like almost 600,000 people died. And that doesn't even include the broken hearts and the deaths of families and circles of trust.

00:29:13.960 It's all, you know, just people that lost a brother, didn't even include the actual siblings, you know? And so the ripple effect of that is huge. And there's that Sackler family that pretty much got away with it. You know, they had a financial slap on the wrist.

00:29:28.740 But we're one of the only countries that allows drug advertisements and pharmaceutical companies to advertise on television. Like, what do you think are things that you can do to help curtail that when you get in office?

00:29:43.060 So, well, we did a great job. We had-

00:29:45.560 Does that make sense or not?

00:29:46.120 Yes, it does make sense. And we had committees, blue ribbon committees in certain cases, but committees that would meet. The big problem we have is, you know, fentanyl is probably the biggest. Opioid is bad. Opioid is bad too.

00:30:01.760 Yeah. I think that's bad because everyone thinks, you know, in many cases, they think they're going to do away with pain. And literally the time is so short. If you take it for like two weeks, you're almost addicted to it. It's incredible when you-

00:30:18.100 Oh, well, the whole, yeah, all of that is horrible. But why do we allow that time?

00:30:21.320 How did you get addicted? How did-

00:30:22.840 No, I would just do cocaine. That was really, yeah. So not just, yeah.

00:30:28.420 That's down and dirty, right?

00:30:30.480 Yeah. And this is, yeah, this, I mean, it was, yeah.

00:30:32.720 But you don't anymore?

00:30:33.800 No, I don't do it anymore, man. And I'm not doing it.

00:30:35.660 Is it too much, too much to handle?

00:30:37.540 Some of the stuff started to get a real rattle in it too. I don't know where we were even getting it from in this country, but yeah, it started to make me feel like I was a mechanic or something.

00:30:46.040 So the thing you go back to then is alcohol for the most part.

00:30:49.160 Right. Yeah. But well, what I want probably is cocaine, but I know that if I have a drink, then it'll give me, it'll like, be like, okay, well, I had a drink, then I can do this.

00:30:57.080 Is cocaine a stronger up?

00:31:01.260 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:31:02.420 So you're way up with cocaine more than anything else you can think of. 1.00

00:31:06.260 Cocaine will turn you into a damn owl, homie. You know what I'm saying? It'll, you'll be, you'll be out on your own porch, you know? 1.00

00:31:11.900 Yeah.

00:31:12.040 You'll, you'll be your own street lamp. You're fricking. 0.93

00:31:15.160 And is that a good feeling? Well, it's a miserable feeling. 0.98

00:31:18.500 But you do it anyway, just like the guy you're saying with the scotch. Like you did, you didn't, you knew it was bad, but you still.

00:31:24.880 So it's not even good during what would be normally the good time. In other words. Oh, well. So why would you do it?

00:31:31.180 I wouldn't. That's why I don't.

00:31:32.380 Yeah. Yeah. That's terrible.

00:31:34.340 But it's crazy because that's what alcoholism is. I think it's that it trumps the why. Yeah. Like it doesn't, and it just, you don't, and you just go to, it's like, so that's why it's, they say that it's cunning, baffling, and powerful. That's what they say about alcoholism.

00:31:50.380 Alcoholism. And it is. It's, it's, um, which is a bigger problem in our country. Would you say? Opioids.

00:31:58.040 Bigger than alcohol. Oh, for sure. I think it's, that's one of the biggest problems.

00:32:01.440 And compare that to fentanyl. Oh yeah. Well, that's the problem is people are making fake opioids because they can't afford real wins or they're just getting them off the street and then they put fentanyl in them.

00:32:10.440 Yeah. Um, fentanyl's like laced into everything now. It's horrible. It's horrible. Yeah. They found something, a baby rattle somewhere. I think. I don't even know where that was.

00:32:18.980 Um, but one of the things I was wanting to ask you about was like, so there's like the big pharma lobbyists, like there's 1800, uh, big pharma lobbyists in Washington, DC. Right. There's only 535 total, uh, representatives or senators total. So just the fact that there's this whole other, almost drug government that's there kind of pushing the, you know, pushing agendas and influencing things. Like, how do we stop that?

00:32:46.300 Man, it just seems like it's obviously killing people. Like people are dying. You know, it's like, what do we have to do that our own government won't help us?

00:32:56.720 Well, you have to stop listening to lobbyists. You know, I was not a big person for lobbyists. And if they have even, even a little access to like a president or a senator or a congressman or woman, uh, they get a lot of money.

00:33:08.880 Yeah. Yeah. And in some cases they just take the money. They don't do anything, but, uh, you have a lot of lobbyists in Washington pushing and certainly a lot for the, for all of the things that we're talking about, including alcohol.

00:33:21.660 Well, the lobbyists are winning. It feels like they're winning. They're making a lot of money. Absolutely. Can you stop that? Can a, can a president stop that? Like, how do we stop that?

00:33:30.520 Well, one way you could stop it is to say, if you're going to go into government, you can never be a lobbyist. Uh, in many cases, they have rules and regulations where you can't do it for four years, three years, five years, whatever.

00:33:42.420 You mean be a lobbyist after you were an elected official?

00:33:44.840 I mean, you could say, you could say that you, if you're an elected official or if you work in government, you can never be a lobbyist. You have people that work in government and they give out contracts to the military and then they leave and they work for them, for the people that they're giving out contracts to.

00:34:02.720 That's exactly what happened with the Sackler family, with the drug companies. They hired people that were on the FDA to work for them so they could loophole the laws or, you know, but can we outlaw lobbyists or we can't do that?

00:34:16.600 Well, there's a whole constitutional thing there. I mean, can you make somebody never, ever go into the business? If you're, if you work for government and especially if you're giving out contracts, in other words, you're a powerful person within some industry, the Navy, the army, any, you know, any,

00:34:32.720 thing. It could be military procurement, et cetera. There's a whole thing like, there's a whole question as to, you give out a contract and then all of a sudden you're working for the person you gave out the contract to or the company that you gave out the contract to.

00:34:46.180 Right. It's like you're playing both sides in the net.

00:34:47.660 Well, it's, and it's obviously a problem and it's a big problem and we were doing things about it, but then we had to get down to other business. We had to solve some, we had a lot of problems with this country. A lot of problems.

00:34:59.000 It's pretty clear that the establishment doesn't like you. I would say, what do you think?

00:35:03.180 Well, I think the people like me. Oh yeah. The people. We're leading now in all the polls. We're leading in, uh, Rasmussen just came out a little while. Rasmussen's a very highly, highly regarded poll and we're leaving by like leading by five points.

00:35:14.960 Rasmussen poll and, uh, and others also, and we're doing well, but I think the people like me a lot, you know, we won and then we did.

00:35:24.540 No doubt. So we won in 2016 and then we did much better in 2020, much better. Got millions and millions more votes.

00:35:33.140 And, uh, why does the establishment keep trying to sink you? Like, what is it that they are so afraid of?

00:35:38.740 Well, in some cases, the things we're talking about right now, they want to sell product that I'm not interested in.

00:35:44.820 They want to have certain boats and certain chips and certain planes and certain everything bought. Um, pharma is another one that's, you know, interesting.

00:35:55.560 Or do they push back against you, you think?

00:35:57.240 Uh, yeah, I think they do. Well, uh, yeah, I think, I think it's pretty obvious that they do.

00:36:03.360 In one way, that's a positive thing politically, because when you can show that they push back, the voters seem to like it.

00:36:10.200 But we have a lot of, a lot of popularity. We have a lot of, uh, a lot of people that want to see me come back and win because we had a great time.

00:36:17.920 We had the greatest economy in history when I was president.

00:36:21.500 Oh, yeah. My cousin got a boat.

00:36:23.380 Yeah, we had the best job numbers. African-American, Hispanic-American.

00:36:27.440 If you look, Asian-American, job numbers, women, men, everybody. We did a, we did a lot of good things.

00:36:34.200 We cut, we cut taxes more than anybody else, including Ronald Reagan. We, uh, cut regulations, which created jobs.

00:36:41.300 We had a great period of time. And I think the people want it back based on what I'm seeing that people want it back.

00:36:47.380 One thing that you did, um, recently we had Bernie Sanders on and interesting.

00:36:52.860 And I know that's very interesting.

00:36:54.980 Certainly, um, you guys don't agree on a lot of things, but, uh, I think you both acknowledge how horribly rigged the healthcare system is against the American people.

00:37:05.260 Um, because hospitals and insurance companies get away with hiding their prices from all of us.

00:37:11.360 And literally they can charge whatever they want.

00:37:14.380 You know, it's like you sign up and say, yes, I'll pay.

00:37:16.780 You trust the hospital, but then you get home and the bill is, it's whatever, you know, which pretty much feels like some form of extortion to me.

00:37:25.060 That's what it seems like to me.

00:37:27.000 Uh, but you had an executive order where you created a federal rule, uh, forcing hospitals and insurers to publish all their prices.

00:37:35.580 Yep.

00:37:36.220 Right. So that people would be able to know, okay, if an MRI costs $600 here and it's $5,000 there, then I can go here and save myself money.

00:37:44.520 But that hasn't even been enforced.

00:37:46.520 It's like, um, hospitals, Biden got aware with it.

00:37:49.640 Hospitals and insurance companies.

00:37:50.720 They're not in, they're still not showing their prices.

00:37:53.440 They hated it.

00:37:54.580 Of course they did.

00:37:55.440 And because it would, would have made it very competitive and Biden let it go.

00:38:00.020 He didn't, he never enforced it.

00:38:01.260 And to get that approved was a big deal.

00:38:03.460 And that would have brought down the price of, of, you know, so many things, not only,

00:38:09.060 you know, just care, right.

00:38:10.800 Care, physical care, mental care.

00:38:13.280 That would have brought down the, the cost of care by 50, 60%.

00:38:17.380 And Biden and Kamala didn't press it.

00:38:21.860 It was a big thing to get it, but I'll be pressing it.

00:38:25.160 And because I'll be pressing it.

00:38:26.920 Yeah.

00:38:27.140 And because I'll be pressing it, there are some people that are vehemently against it

00:38:30.680 for financial reasons, you know, for money reasons, but I'll be pressing it. 0.99

00:38:34.500 Those people can go to hell, dude. 1.00

00:38:35.100 That's insane. 1.00

00:38:36.020 Yeah. 0.96

00:38:36.360 No, they, they're bad people.

00:38:38.560 Especially because one of the leading causes of bankruptcy in America is medical debt.

00:38:44.380 I mean, it's, that's crazy.

00:38:47.120 And I don't even think I made that up either.

00:38:49.000 No, it's, uh, when you think of it at first, when you said it, I said, wow.

00:38:53.160 And then I'm thinking about it, I'm saying, it's really not a wow.

00:38:55.880 It's, I understand that.

00:38:57.160 Yeah.

00:38:58.200 Tremendous lobby, tremendous, powerful lobby.

00:39:00.900 Well, yeah.

00:39:01.340 Cause I mean, think about what else is going to put you in medical, like in, in that much

00:39:04.320 of a debt.

00:39:04.780 It's like, I think that's, I believe that that's accurate.

00:39:08.620 Um, who's behind, who's behind the healthcare insurance, that whole thing.

00:39:14.700 Like who's behind it all.

00:39:15.880 It feels like Chuck Schumer is this kind of like deviant mastermind back there somewhere.

00:39:21.340 Well, he's one of the people that is hurt and he's one of the people that keeps the

00:39:25.480 prices high and he's, you know, gets a lot of contributions from the people on the other

00:39:31.620 side.

00:39:32.200 Uh, yeah.

00:39:32.960 And him and plenty of other people, a lot of people, it's a very powerful lobby, but

00:39:37.440 wouldn't they, why do they want the most powerful lobby?

00:39:39.220 The lawyer lobby.

00:39:40.320 That's that's the, and that feeds into that also, you know, it all feeds into it.

00:39:43.700 Wait, hold on.

00:39:44.140 Just so I understand, Donald, sorry.

00:39:45.300 Um, so that, uh, that lobby is a very powerful one, but why do those people want people to

00:39:51.660 suffer though?

00:39:52.620 Just so they can make money.

00:39:54.220 Yeah.

00:39:55.420 That's crazy.

00:39:56.140 Yeah.

00:39:56.580 It really has to do with money.

00:39:58.860 That's crazy.

00:39:59.540 How much money do they need?

00:40:00.620 They probably start off by saying this is terrible.

00:40:02.480 And then they eventually say, well, but can we just as a country say, Hey, how much, okay,

00:40:06.740 you need $3 million.

00:40:07.660 We'll give you that. 1.00

00:40:08.840 Fuck off. 1.00

00:40:09.700 Yeah. 1.00

00:40:10.100 We want to be healthy.

00:40:10.960 Like, can't we make a deal with those people?

00:40:14.660 They're very tough to deal with.

00:40:16.060 And they've been taken care of by drug companies and others for years.

00:40:19.560 You know, you have politicians that have been for years being taken care of by people that

00:40:24.820 make a lot of money and they want to keep making a lot of money.

00:40:28.420 And it is, I mean, in that case, it's not a power thing.

00:40:31.040 It's a money thing.

00:40:31.880 Yeah.

00:40:32.300 A lot of money.

00:40:34.180 Um, what are some of the other lobbies that are out there that we don't even know about?

00:40:37.620 Well, the most powerful lobby is, uh, the lawyer lobby, I would say the teacher's lobby

00:40:44.180 is important or powerful sometimes really to the detriment of everybody.

00:40:49.220 But the most powerful lobby is probably the lawyers who would think that, right?

00:40:53.700 But they have, they're, that's why if you wanted to get rid of court cases and cut down

00:41:01.140 litigation costs, which in this country is out of control, loser pays what you do is

00:41:06.260 you go loser pays.

00:41:07.160 In other words, the loser of a lawsuit has to pay for the other side, has to pay back 0.93

00:41:11.840 all the money the other side spent.

00:41:13.720 You think that would solve it?

00:41:15.440 Yeah.

00:41:15.760 It would get rid of 75, 80% of, of the litigation.

00:41:19.760 We are a very litigious country.

00:41:21.900 It's on everything's under, it's all bureaucratic.

00:41:23.920 It's all bullets, all dirty paperwork.

00:41:25.680 It's a bunch of rigmarole.

00:41:26.720 Well, if that would happen, you'd get rid of a lot of it, but the lawyers are opposed

00:41:31.620 to it.

00:41:31.960 It will, it probably will not happen no matter what, because obviously the lawyers want to

00:41:37.720 sue everybody.

00:41:38.840 What would have to happen?

00:41:39.640 The Supreme court would have to vote on something to make it happen.

00:41:41.880 I don't know.

00:41:42.800 I think that it maybe would have to go before the Supreme court, but the most powerful lobby

00:41:47.620 is that lobby.

00:41:48.400 And if you wanted to get rid of litigation, if you went and, you know, Europe has it, a lot

00:41:54.300 of places have it in different countries where loser pays.

00:41:58.560 If you sue somebody and you lose, you have to, you have to pay the costs of the other side.

00:42:03.640 Yeah.

00:42:03.720 That makes sense.

00:42:04.280 I think.

00:42:04.800 And what happens is people don't sue.

00:42:07.560 It's a tremendous difference, but this country, the lawyers are very much opposed to it in this

00:42:13.380 country.

00:42:13.760 It's too bad.

00:42:15.540 Yeah, man.

00:42:15.900 It's just pretty heartbreaking.

00:42:16.780 I feel like, um, there was a rumor that you almost had RFK Jr. as a potential, uh, vice

00:42:25.660 president.

00:42:27.100 No.

00:42:27.980 Okay.

00:42:28.720 Um, just a rumor.

00:42:29.780 And did, um, I like him.

00:42:31.400 I've always liked him, but yeah, I like him too.

00:42:33.320 He's Bobby and our friends.

00:42:34.460 He's a friend of mine.

00:42:35.100 I've known him for years.

00:42:35.660 He's a good man.

00:42:36.200 Yeah.

00:42:36.940 He's in there pitching and stuff.

00:42:38.320 It's a two party system and he's a third party.

00:42:40.680 You know, it's a tough thing.

00:42:41.660 He can't get registered now in New York.

00:42:43.960 I see New York and the Democrats have really opposed him vehemently.

00:42:47.260 I haven't, but the Democrats have really opposed him.

00:42:50.660 So you think he should be allowed to run everywhere?

00:42:52.320 Well, the laws don't allow that.

00:42:55.140 Okay.

00:42:55.740 And the laws don't allow, unless you have 15 or 20%, whatever it is, they don't allow

00:42:59.760 you to debate.

00:43:00.440 You don't have to debate.

00:43:01.640 So you can't get on the stage.

00:43:03.180 You can't, the debates are very important.

00:43:04.580 I mean, I had a debate with Joe Biden.

00:43:07.840 Oh yeah.

00:43:08.340 And that was a very meaningful, that was a very consequential debate to put it mildly.

00:43:13.420 Well, yeah, they, they, they, uh, they took the hand out of the puppet after that.

00:43:16.860 Well, they wanted to debate.

00:43:19.800 They gave me everything that I didn't want, CNN, and then they gave me, uh, Dana Bash

00:43:24.860 and Jake Tapper.

00:43:26.020 Now remember this, they were very straight during that debate.

00:43:29.980 I, I have, I gained a certain respect because, uh, Jake Tapper, who I call fake Tapper, but

00:43:36.840 now I don't do that.

00:43:38.280 I saw him at Whole Foods.

00:43:38.800 I don't do that so much anymore.

00:43:40.280 You did.

00:43:40.640 Uh, but I thought they were very even handed if you want to know the truth during the

00:43:45.580 debate.

00:43:46.040 I didn't feel like they, like the moderate, I didn't feel like they pushed a lot of stuff.

00:43:49.020 Not that they had certain pressure on them to be even handed.

00:43:50.760 I think it's hard to not do that, but they were very even handed and, uh, it was a great

00:43:56.320 debate, but a very important debate.

00:43:58.440 Well, after that, it seemed like suddenly everybody had been like, oh, Biden's fine in America

00:44:03.480 for like 18 months.

00:44:05.960 Like my dad was really old when I was born.

00:44:07.820 My dad was 70 when I was born.

00:44:09.400 Right.

00:44:09.500 Right.

00:44:09.820 So I don't like seeing senior citizens get, take advantage of, right. 1.00

00:44:13.420 I felt like that happened a lot when I was a kid.

00:44:15.380 And so I think for me, it reflected on me.

00:44:17.580 Like it made me really angry because I was like, I know this guy's not well.

00:44:21.900 It's not fair to pretend that he's well.

00:44:23.800 It's not fair to him because he doesn't know you're pretending, you know?

00:44:27.020 And it just seemed like the cruelest thing you could do.

00:44:30.400 And then we're all kind of supposed to believe this thing that we know is not real.

00:44:34.260 Our media is just saying this is real.

00:44:36.680 And we're like, we're all just being gaslit as humans about something that's like moral.

00:44:43.060 Like this is a human man.

00:44:45.440 This is somebody's grandfather.

00:44:46.780 And then they just disappear.

00:44:49.320 He just disappears.

00:44:50.340 And suddenly it's like, it was a coup.

00:44:53.060 Kamala is the, is the one that went in.

00:44:55.840 What do you think happened in the back rooms there?

00:44:57.520 Cause that almost was overnight that happened.

00:44:59.600 I know what happened and you're not supposed to do that.

00:45:03.320 It's not supposed to be probably constitutional.

00:45:07.040 She got no votes.

00:45:08.100 He got 14 million votes.

00:45:09.440 All of a sudden they're telling him to get out or they, they threatened him.

00:45:12.440 But who are they when they say that?

00:45:14.120 And he is an angry person.

00:45:14.920 Well, I would say Schumer, Pelosi, and numerous other people.

00:45:21.200 The heads of the Democrat party.

00:45:23.880 And they did.

00:45:24.760 They threatened him violently, I think.

00:45:27.000 And he didn't want to get out.

00:45:28.240 Remember he said, only God will get me out, right?

00:45:30.280 Only God will get me.

00:45:31.320 Somebody dressed up like God and just chased him out of there.

00:45:33.500 Yeah.

00:45:33.740 And what happened is they, they went to him and they said, this was after the debate.

00:45:38.600 Now, if he didn't have the debate, he would still be running.

00:45:42.660 Yeah.

00:45:43.700 So they set him up.

00:45:44.820 They knew they were going to pull him.

00:45:46.120 That I don't know.

00:45:47.160 I mean, he had his debate.

00:45:49.300 Maybe he wanted to.

00:45:50.220 I heard he didn't.

00:45:51.460 I heard they offered me things that I would never accept.

00:45:54.160 And I accepted them.

00:45:55.100 They said CNN.

00:45:56.060 They said Jake Tapper, Dana Bash.

00:45:58.780 They said all things that I could not take.

00:46:01.420 And I accepted all of them.

00:46:03.740 And, you know, look, it was a good debate for me.

00:46:07.700 It wasn't a good debate for him.

00:46:08.960 I think he'd still be running right now.

00:46:10.520 You wouldn't have her.

00:46:11.440 She was one of the most disrespected people in the whole country. 1.00

00:46:15.840 She was, she was a failed vice president. 1.00

00:46:18.420 She was the most, she was considered the worst vice president in the history of our country. 1.00

00:46:25.520 She had no chance.

00:46:27.120 You know, if you go back six weeks, they were saying how bad she was.

00:46:30.620 And they wanted to choose from 11 different people.

00:46:33.020 Do you feel?

00:46:33.980 I thought that's what they were going to have.

00:46:35.840 Oh, you thought that's what they were going to have.

00:46:36.720 Well, that would have seemed more democratic, I think.

00:46:38.740 They were, they were, they wanted to be politically correct.

00:46:43.120 And they chose her.

00:46:44.920 I feel like it would have seemed more.

00:46:46.600 But, dude, I got so angry when they sidetracked Bernie a few years ago.

00:46:50.240 That wasn't fair.

00:46:51.400 It just happened to Bernie twice.

00:46:52.640 Yeah.

00:46:53.180 You got to think about it.

00:46:54.200 Yeah.

00:46:54.340 Oh, it was crazy.

00:46:55.040 Yeah.

00:46:55.360 2016 and 22.

00:46:56.260 He just got, you know, it just wasn't cool.

00:46:58.300 Like, whatever you think.

00:46:59.880 It's just like, we have to be able to believe that.

00:47:01.920 Well, do you like Bernie?

00:47:02.600 Is he, are you friends with him or something?

00:47:04.060 No, I met him the other day.

00:47:05.800 Was that the first time?

00:47:06.820 It was the first time.

00:47:07.580 Were you impressed by him?

00:47:09.200 I, yeah.

00:47:10.780 One thing, he's still sharp, right?

00:47:12.760 Oh, yeah, he's still sharp.

00:47:13.460 He doesn't suffer from what Biden did.

00:47:15.520 No, no, no, no, no. 0.75

00:47:16.820 Mental dullness.

00:47:18.220 Yeah.

00:47:19.000 Right?

00:47:19.520 I mean.

00:47:20.360 Mentally gone.

00:47:20.940 Biden is just, Biden is like.

00:47:22.520 Mentally gone.

00:47:23.240 He's, you know, somebody put a merry-go-round in his head, I heard.

00:47:26.720 But that's, you know, but they didn't plug it in.

00:47:28.840 They didn't tell him.

00:47:29.560 Yeah.

00:47:30.860 But, no, one thing I liked about Bernie, well, one of the things is, is the healthcare.

00:47:34.980 I just feel like we spend so much money in different places and people are sick and the opioid epidemic.

00:47:40.680 I just feel like, and the lower cost of drugs, those are things that I.

00:47:44.740 And did Bernie, because I got insulin down and they took credit for it.

00:47:48.860 But I got it down to $35.

00:47:51.600 And I said, I hope I win because somebody's going to take credit.

00:47:54.280 It took, it takes a period of time before it kicks in, statutorily.

00:47:58.320 And I got it down to $35, which is a very low price.

00:48:02.480 And they took credit for it, which is, you know, now I'm taking credit because I'm talking to you.

00:48:07.040 Well, yeah, if you did it, then you should be able to take credit for it.

00:48:09.940 I just watched her performance today.

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00:48:14.780 Yeah.

00:48:15.140 She lied about everything.

00:48:16.380 She said, this Trump tax, that Trump tax, that Trump tax.

00:48:19.980 He's going to tax this.

00:48:20.840 He's going to tax all these different things.

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00:50:47.240 Look, people in politics, many of them, not all of them, are really liars, but she's really 0.99

00:50:54.420 a liar. 0.97

00:50:54.680 She made up a series of lots of different taxes that Trump's going to charge you on clothing. 0.99

00:50:59.560 He's going to charge you on this or that.

00:51:01.760 And actually, she's the one.

00:51:03.700 Your taxes are going to go up by four times.

00:51:06.060 And if the Trump tax cuts, because I got the largest tax cuts ever, but they expire in

00:51:12.860 a number of months pretty soon, she has to be able to do something about it.

00:51:20.380 And she's unwilling and incapable.

00:51:22.960 I'll tell you what, if she's the worst vice president ever, he's the worst president ever, 0.98

00:51:28.240 a deadly combination.

00:51:29.980 And we have a country where the borders are bad, where the world is blowing up.

00:51:34.520 You look at Israel, you look at Ukraine, you look at all the different things that are

00:51:37.860 happening.

00:51:38.680 Oh, we're, yeah.

00:51:39.340 She is, and she has no clue.

00:51:40.900 And you know what I say about her?

00:51:43.120 Why don't you do it?

00:51:44.040 You know, she complains about everything. 1.00

00:51:46.120 She's been there for three and a half years.

00:51:47.620 Why don't you do it?

00:51:48.340 All you have to do is say, why don't you do it?

00:51:50.580 Why didn't you fix it?

00:51:52.200 You could fix it right now.

00:51:54.060 Don't, you know, do whatever you're doing.

00:51:55.960 Yeah.

00:51:56.220 And she won't talk to you and she won't talk to anybody. 0.80

00:51:58.480 She won't be interviewed.

00:51:59.660 She's welcome to come on.

00:52:00.620 I would love to get to talk to her.

00:52:02.100 I'm sure she'd be very exciting.

00:52:04.100 Actually, you could make her exciting.

00:52:05.900 You think?

00:52:06.300 Yeah, I think so.

00:52:07.160 Somebody said she's a good roller skater. 1.00

00:52:08.800 That's what I heard, which is crazy.

00:52:09.980 That's about it.

00:52:10.860 Yeah.

00:52:14.240 I mean, look, we're going to wrap it up soon.

00:52:16.560 Okay.

00:52:16.780 Is that what you're saying?

00:52:17.540 Okay, Donald.

00:52:18.300 Sorry.

00:52:19.240 Speaking of Kamala and speaking of the border, we had two border patrol agents that came

00:52:23.940 on in the past two years, right?

00:52:25.140 Because we wanted to learn about it from people that are there on the ground.

00:52:28.680 And one of the things that we found out was a lot of times they keep arresting the same

00:52:31.980 people because the people that are coming in illegally aren't being prosecuted.

00:52:37.200 That's one of the biggest problems they were saying.

00:52:39.500 What can we do differently to make things safe at the border?

00:52:42.120 It's the fact that a family can't, a father can't, you know, can't sleep at night because

00:52:48.660 he doesn't know who's going through his yard or going through it.

00:52:51.600 It's just not fair.

00:52:52.560 It's not what you sign up for when you're an American.

00:52:54.760 What are you going to do differently?

00:52:56.020 So the borders, well, I did it.

00:52:57.940 I did it.

00:52:58.380 We had the best border.

00:52:59.660 Oh, the wall.

00:53:00.100 They should have kept it.

00:53:00.780 I agree.

00:53:01.280 We had the wall built.

00:53:02.220 We had more going to come long beyond what I promised.

00:53:06.140 I built hundreds of miles of wall and it worked.

00:53:09.500 Walls work.

00:53:10.120 You know, walls and wheels.

00:53:11.940 I say it all the time.

00:53:13.100 Two things they never get obsolete.

00:53:14.900 Wheels and walls.

00:53:16.000 Well, they also supplied infrastructure.

00:53:17.860 Like people don't understand the wall also was a place where border patrol agents could go

00:53:22.580 to get water, to get food, to rest.

00:53:24.560 It provided like a shelter out there as well.

00:53:26.800 It worked.

00:53:27.200 They're in the middle of nowhere.

00:53:27.980 They said it worked.

00:53:28.920 The two that I've spoken to said it worked.

00:53:30.440 And I was going to do 200 miles of wall.

00:53:32.940 We had it built and we, you know, to the specs, specifications of the border patrol, we

00:53:39.440 were going to put it up and it would take three weeks to put it up.

00:53:42.960 That's an additional 200 miles to fill up certain areas that, you know, when you make

00:53:48.580 the wall, then all of a sudden they start coming through other areas.

00:53:51.620 We had it wired and they wouldn't do it.

00:53:55.420 They wouldn't put it up.

00:53:56.320 And I realized they wanted open borders.

00:53:58.480 Kamala wants open borders. 1.00

00:53:59.780 She's going to have open borders. 0.58

00:54:01.200 We'll have 50, 60 million people because of them.

00:54:04.320 We have over 20 million people, in my opinion, right now that came into our country.

00:54:08.480 Many come from prisons, jails, mental institutions, many terrorists.

00:54:14.640 Do you know that other countries now, their crime rate is way down because they're sending 1.00

00:54:18.400 all their criminals to us.

00:54:19.340 It's a party.

00:54:20.020 They're sending all of their criminals to us.

00:54:22.560 And who would take this?

00:54:24.040 Why is this a good thing?

00:54:25.300 It's a horrible.

00:54:27.140 She should be ashamed.

00:54:29.080 And, you know, she was the border czar too.

00:54:30.780 He put her in charge.

00:54:31.920 She was the worst border czar in the history of the world. 1.00

00:54:34.960 She's a roller skater. 1.00

00:54:36.020 That's what somebody told me the other day. 0.95

00:54:37.420 She's terrible.

00:54:38.480 But what are you going to do?

00:54:39.600 What's going to happen with the border when you're back?

00:54:41.480 We're going to seal the border.

00:54:42.880 And I had it very well sealed.

00:54:45.040 We had the most successful border in the history of our country.

00:54:49.020 We're going to seal the border.

00:54:50.140 We're going to finish up certain areas of the wall because they didn't do it.

00:54:53.740 And we're going to have an unbelievable border.

00:54:56.160 And we're going to spend a lot of time getting the criminals out.

00:54:58.660 Look, we have murderers in our country now.

00:55:00.860 I don't think people should be allowed to be in our country if they're criminals.

00:55:03.080 Well, then you're going to be very unhappy to know that we have a lot of people, hundreds of thousands of murderers.

00:55:09.800 We have we have people, drug dealers talking about drugs.

00:55:13.340 It's it's not even believable that they'll do it.

00:55:16.900 So what they've done is they've allowed murderers, people in prisons, people in jails, people in mental institutions in San Jose and terrorists to pour into our country by the hundreds of thousands.

00:55:29.360 And they are in our country right now. 0.98

00:55:31.580 And the country that brought them out said, if you ever come back, we're giving you the death penalty or we're going to kill you. 0.98

00:55:36.660 Well, in Brooklyn alone, there's a huge there's a huge building that is housing just Haitian people. 0.98

00:55:42.660 There is housing this wandering around Brooklyn all the time.

00:55:44.900 My friends are telling me they have some rough people, really rough people.

00:55:48.260 So you're so when you so if you get reelected to the border, you're going to continue that project.

00:55:52.900 Well, I'm going to make sure it's safe.

00:55:54.380 We had it.

00:55:55.440 We had the safest border and the best border in the history of our country.

00:55:59.680 And now it's a disaster.

00:56:02.280 Biden, somebody invited Biden to the border and they said he went to a border's books, dude.

00:56:05.760 And I was like, well, they invited her and she went to a place that doesn't have a problem.

00:56:09.960 You know, she's a disaster. 1.00

00:56:11.480 She's she is the worst vice president. 1.00

00:56:14.460 It's the worst administration in the history of our country. 0.63

00:56:17.600 She's a part of it.

00:56:18.940 And she won't do an interview.

00:56:20.340 She would never do an interview like this.

00:56:21.880 She won't do an interview.

00:56:22.760 I want to learn more about her.

00:56:24.060 Well, I think you should ask her to come on.

00:56:26.440 Tell Barron I said, thanks, man.

00:56:28.220 Yeah.

00:56:28.580 He's a big fan.

00:56:30.180 I hope to get to meet him someday.

00:56:31.220 He seems like a neat kid.

00:56:32.180 Yeah, he is.

00:56:32.640 He's great.

00:56:33.220 Is he?

00:56:33.500 Yeah.

00:56:34.460 And yeah, thank you for your time.

00:56:35.840 I can't believe that I got to be able to sit down with you.

00:56:37.800 I'm grateful to Dana White as well for setting this up.

00:56:40.780 And yeah, I just appreciate you giving me your time today.

00:56:46.720 Thank you.

00:56:47.100 Thank you so much.

00:56:47.880 And good luck with your situation.

00:56:49.700 You're going to do it.

00:56:50.440 You beat it, right?

00:56:51.340 Oh, yeah.

00:56:51.900 You beat it.

00:56:52.500 Good luck with it.

00:56:53.380 Thank you, brother.

00:56:54.040 Thank you very much.

00:56:54.980 Now I'm just floating on the breeze, and I feel I'm falling like these leaves.

00:57:01.060 For 50 years now, hip-hop has been a reflection of culture and society.

00:57:06.600 That includes stories of struggle and pain, social injustice, racial inequality, the marginalization

00:57:12.700 of communities.

00:57:13.800 Today, we confront a health care system that has been rigged against all of us.

00:57:18.100 Hospitals force patients to sign contracts for services without ever showing us actual

00:57:23.080 prices.

00:57:23.700 Stifling competition.

00:57:24.980 Overcharging without accountability.

00:57:27.380 And if we can't pay, these same contracts allow them to take everything we own.

00:57:32.240 Creating so much fear that millions and millions of Americans refuse to enter a hospital.

00:57:37.600 Putting our health and our lives at stake.

00:57:41.220 This is an American humanitarian crisis.

00:57:44.600 We love our nurses. 0.99

00:57:45.720 And we need our doctors.

00:57:46.900 But hospitals and insurers.

00:57:48.620 Rigging a system to make profits off of people that say struggle is unforgivable.

00:57:54.780 We demand prices.

00:57:56.020 And transparency in healthcare.

00:57:58.260 How?

00:57:59.200 To the patients.

00:58:02.240 Thank you.

00:58:25.580 Thank you.

This Past Weekend with Theo Von - August 20, 2024

E526 Donald Trump

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