This Past Weekend with Theo Von - E534 Brooks & Dunn

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00:01:03.540 Today's guests are icons in the world of country music.

00:01:07.220 If they had a Mount Rushmore of country,

00:01:09.080 you might see these fellas right up there on it.

00:01:11.800 They had solo careers before they joined together to create one of the most popular tandems in the history of country.

00:01:20.720 You know their many hits like

00:01:22.940 And many, many more.

00:01:31.420 Their new album, Reboot 2, comes out November 15th.

00:01:34.740 It has new takes on their classic songs with folks like Morgan Wallen, Jelly Roll, and Lainey Wilson.

00:01:40.480 I am so excited today to sit down with Mr. Kix Brooks and Ronnie Dunn.

00:01:47.880 Brooks and Dunn.

00:01:50.440 Shine that light on me

00:01:54.080 I'll sit and tell you my stories

00:02:00.080 Shine on me

00:02:04.800 And I will find a song

00:02:08.980 I've been singing

00:02:10.180 I've been singing

00:02:10.200 I've been singing

00:02:11.160 Yeah, thank you guys for coming in, man.

00:02:20.840 Good to be here.

00:02:22.040 Good to see you guys.

00:02:23.200 I watch you all the time.

00:02:23.840 I'm not just saying that.

00:02:24.600 I watched you with Post Malone the other day.

00:02:26.040 I don't know how far back that was videoed or shot.

00:02:29.820 Oh, yeah.

00:02:30.380 It's funny stuff.

00:02:31.080 Yeah, he's wild, man.

00:02:32.340 He's a cat.

00:02:32.820 Yeah, he's really

00:02:34.520 He's just like an infectious thing, kind of.

00:02:38.760 Isn't it funny?

00:02:39.380 Yeah.

00:02:39.600 Yes, sir.

00:02:40.020 No, sir.

00:02:40.600 Yeah.

00:02:44.820 He's like a kid who got in trouble, but he's going to keep partying, you know?

00:02:47.900 Yeah, right.

00:02:49.740 Would I be stopped drinking?

00:02:51.000 It was the worst time of your life.

00:02:52.760 Well, it's when I was drinking.

00:02:54.300 Have you stopped?

00:02:55.180 No.

00:02:56.780 What's different?

00:02:57.940 Well, I mean, he's, yeah.

00:03:01.360 Never thought about it.

00:03:02.120 He's an interesting cat, and he's absolutely a sweetheart, though.

00:03:05.240 Oh, yeah.

00:03:05.680 You talk to him, it's like Mr. Theo, you know.

00:03:08.860 He's the nicest guy.

00:03:10.160 Yeah.

00:03:10.640 Yeah, he's super nice, man.

00:03:12.320 You guys have had such a career, man.

00:03:13.980 Thank you so much for all the music.

00:03:16.280 Yeah.

00:03:16.780 Thanks for letting us hang around this long, you know.

00:03:18.940 Appreciate it.

00:03:19.740 Been around how long?

00:03:21.820 Several semesters.

00:03:22.720 Yeah.

00:03:24.680 Does it feel, did it ever feel, did it feel like, because you guys got part, did you guys

00:03:29.880 get paired together, or how did it kind of the beginning become?

00:03:33.020 We're not going to go through all the history, but I just want, you know, just so some people

00:03:37.220 may not know.

00:03:38.180 Classic story, you know, right out of the movies.

00:03:41.500 Just a friend of ours who we both had a lot of respect for, Tim Dubois, great songwriter

00:03:46.000 himself and whatever.

00:03:46.980 He's actually an accountant at Vanderbilt as well, you know, smart guy too, but he just

00:03:52.920 invited us to lunch and thought we might be a good pair up, and, you know, Ronnie and

00:03:58.880 I are just kind of growling across the table at each other.

00:04:01.320 It didn't make any sense to us, and he said, look, you guys can both write songs.

00:04:05.620 He goes, you know, just go see if you can write a song together.

00:04:09.820 Okay.

00:04:10.640 So, I think that was Tuesday, maybe Thursday, we wrote Brand New Man.

00:04:14.440 On Friday, we wrote this song, Next Broken Heart, and Ronnie had already written Neon Moon

00:04:19.220 and Boot Scootin' Boogie, and I had another song, Lost and Found, and we just screwed up

00:04:23.940 and been riding a bus for 30 years trying to figure out how to get off of you.

00:04:29.380 Just like we weren't brothers growing up.

00:04:31.820 Yeah.

00:04:33.220 Did it feel like a pressure, like you had to be like, like, I just want, yeah, like,

00:04:37.460 because with comedians, they don't really have that where they kind of partner you up.

00:04:41.000 I guess for television shows and stuff they do where they package shows.

00:04:43.920 But, yeah, I wonder, did it feel, did you guys feel a pressure like we have to,

00:04:47.800 or it was just?

00:04:49.400 No.

00:04:50.060 No, we felt broke and hungry.

00:04:52.520 Yeah.

00:04:54.060 So, what's the motivation?

00:04:57.520 We had to back up a little bit.

00:04:59.020 We felt like none of this shit's really working that great.

00:05:01.980 Yeah.

00:05:02.380 I mean, I'd had some success as a songwriter, written a couple of hits and whatever,

00:05:06.720 and Ronnie just been out in Okie, you know, hiding, writing great songs.

00:05:11.500 Totally unheard of for somebody who hadn't been in Nashville really studying the craft,

00:05:18.100 so to say, to show up with songs like Neon Moon and Boot Scoot.

00:05:22.580 Oh, yeah.

00:05:23.320 Next album, Hardworking Man, and Used to Be My.

00:05:25.880 Ronnie just had written all these great songs by himself, which, you know,

00:05:29.480 now I can't even tell you who's out there writing songs by themselves.

00:05:33.520 They'll probably watch and go, hey, how about me, dude?

00:05:35.840 But, you know, it's a co-riding town.

00:05:39.040 It just really is.

00:05:40.160 It's becoming more and more of a co-riding town.

00:05:42.400 More and more writers on every song.

00:05:44.580 I saw one with nine writers.

00:05:46.440 I saw one with nine writers.

00:05:47.940 I mean, what the heck?

00:05:48.660 We used to, like, we'd throw a bet in me if it were, like, three writers in the room.

00:05:53.860 Did it feel like you guys had to, because I bet it's like,

00:05:59.780 once you get partnered with somebody, it's like,

00:06:01.760 this is a long ride, and you don't really know how long the ride is when you start, you know?

00:06:06.620 Did it feel like you guys over the years, like you had to be best friends?

00:06:09.760 Did it ever feel like a pressure to be like that?

00:06:12.800 Maybe, but we didn't.

00:06:13.900 I don't think we took it to heart.

00:06:15.520 I mean, it was like, hey, we, Tim, back up on your story a little bit for me.

00:06:21.200 But Tim had heard me in a plant of bar in Oklahoma,

00:06:24.760 and he was circling through, and Clive Davis, and he were putting a label together.

00:06:30.880 So he told me, he says, I really, I want to sign you.

00:06:33.460 He said, I've already got Alan Jackson and Diamond Rio.

00:06:38.120 You already had a boy singer and a band and a girl.

00:06:40.680 Yeah, Pam Tillis.

00:06:41.720 And it's like, it's like he's going down the list.

00:06:43.840 We didn't realize this at first, but he was going down the list going,

00:06:46.640 okay, now I need a trio.

00:06:48.160 I've got a trio.

00:06:48.740 Now I need a duo.

00:06:50.480 But he didn't, we didn't know that until after the fact.

00:06:54.520 The judge were breaking up, so he saw an open slot on the CMAs, I think.

00:07:00.840 Might have been true.

00:07:01.920 Yeah, no, it was true.

00:07:02.980 I think it was that manipulative.

00:07:04.240 Yeah.

00:07:05.120 Yeah, I saw you guys do your walkout with Morgan.

00:07:06.980 How was that, man?

00:07:07.740 That was cool.

00:07:08.960 He's got it stirred up, and it's like, okay, so where do we?

00:07:14.260 How about that kid?

00:07:16.200 Did you know about it before what it was or no?

00:07:18.420 I really didn't, they were trying to explain to me what was going on,

00:07:22.480 and like, Morgan will look back, and you guys come down the hallway,

00:07:25.600 and then y'all are going to walk out together to his stage, you know,

00:07:28.640 we're going to film it, and it's a big deal.

00:07:30.400 I'm like, okay.

00:07:33.480 We keep up with it to the extent that we know how he's selling out stadiums

00:07:36.600 everywhere, and it's like, you know, get out of the way,

00:07:38.480 and he's crashing websites, and Live Nation is, you know,

00:07:41.400 if you announce ticket sales, it all, you know, it blows up.

00:07:44.940 So, and I had, I had, did a walk-on with him at Bridgestone

00:07:50.080 when he played here a couple years ago.

00:07:51.600 Oh, yeah, I saw that show, actually.

00:07:53.180 Really?

00:07:53.440 I was at that show, yeah.

00:07:54.120 Yeah.

00:07:54.680 That was awesome.

00:07:55.460 Yeah.

00:07:55.920 But, yeah, to do that is kind of an interesting thing,

00:07:57.880 because you're back there, you don't really know what's going on,

00:08:00.500 you know, you can kind of start to hear people cheering,

00:08:03.280 but you don't really know.

00:08:04.220 So did you do that with him?

00:08:05.660 Yeah.

00:08:06.060 Yeah, I got to do one with them here in Nashville.

00:08:09.660 Yeah, with DeAndre Hopkins, that plays for the Tennessee Titans.

00:08:13.300 Uh-huh, yeah, sure.

00:08:14.480 But it's still kind of confusing, because you're like...

00:08:16.700 J-Hop.

00:08:17.700 Yeah, D-Hop.

00:08:19.420 Oh, that's what I meant.

00:08:20.340 Oh, what did I call him?

00:08:22.920 DeAndre.

00:08:24.200 No, but we didn't, when I did it, we didn't,

00:08:25.860 he wasn't doing the walk yet.

00:08:27.260 So, we were in Kansas City the other night with him.

00:08:29.920 Is that right?

00:08:30.600 Yeah, yeah.

00:08:31.040 No, no, no.

00:08:32.340 Yeah, we were in Kansas City.

00:08:33.780 Yeah, Kansas City.

00:08:34.440 Yeah, that's where you guys did the walk out with him, right?

00:08:36.400 Yeah.

00:08:36.720 yeah because it's kind of wild yeah it's just this thing i guess they kind of just started it

00:08:42.320 yeah you don't know yeah you're right you're just kind of thrown into the fray there yeah you just

00:08:46.780 kind of don't know what's going on well am i supposed to walk here and be cool am i supposed

00:08:50.000 to like you know rub your shoulders right and it's starting to get weird people are rubbing on

00:08:55.000 him and people are yeah right it's getting it's starting to get a little aggressive i feel like

00:08:59.420 right another thing you know is it's like what are you doing stop doing that

00:09:04.120 and they tell us they said no he's gonna walk fast okay you're gonna walk fast yeah that's it

00:09:12.600 then off you go it'll be cool when he just starts wrestling yeah

00:09:15.900 turns around yeah it's him and his agent just back there fist fighting

00:09:21.740 oh i think yeah it's definitely bizarre because you like you don't really know what's going on

00:09:26.720 and then he's like all right let's go and for him it's just he's just getting it you know heading to

00:09:31.040 work yeah and then it's off the walls yeah it had to be weird because you get to the stage and

00:09:35.100 then you guys can't go out to the stage so it's like yeah it's like yeah we're on it's like stop

00:09:39.980 yeah no no this is not your show stop hearing the cameras off follow that guy yeah it really was like

00:09:46.940 that man because i didn't even play anything when i was like i could try you know i was like let's do

00:09:51.140 it right you know that's how we were he's just you just wing it

00:09:53.860 oh yeah and deandre's like he looked like he was ready to just run a 40 yards f flat you know

00:10:00.620 so i was like yeah let's get him out here dude so that was interesting man um what's it what's

00:10:07.480 what's been one of the tougher things that uh that came with like fame that you guys realized because

00:10:12.140 you guys went to being obviously you were doing well in your careers individually but even as you

00:10:17.800 were just saying like you know you guys the first couple songs you put out were hits that's right

00:10:23.920 first four were number ones yeah i mean that's a lot of number ones dude you know we just called

00:10:28.520 some buddies up in a panic and and started playing honky talks and bars even our manager told us not

00:10:34.900 to do it i said no man if we're running off like we're knocking hits out of the park right now we

00:10:40.360 need to have a tight band you know when they do are we getting a place where we're in front of a lot

00:10:45.560 of people so we went for the first year year and a half playing clubs everywhere which was here to

00:10:51.900 california which was the coolest it was animal coolest men are the coolest memory uh for me

00:10:58.980 because i probably like ronnie i mean just a lot of years of turning corners on clubs and stuff and

00:11:05.280 there'd be four or six cars in the parking lot oh yeah you know and you just have to go and set up

00:11:09.940 yours too and one of them's a girl you came to invited to impress exactly and a couple of guys

00:11:17.420 that don't like it because they want her too and she's not cute at all yeah you set your stuff up

00:11:25.920 you know and nobody cares and whatever and then next thing you know we're we're parking down the road

00:11:31.080 and uh to get to a place because the parking lot's full now those were great nights they really were

00:11:36.620 you know you really really couldn't screw up too bad because it was fired up and that's

00:11:42.120 it's kind of what you dream about when you're learning to tune your guitar you know just man

00:11:47.420 just just the clubs part of it i mean the whole coliseum thing and that that other kind of success

00:11:54.060 was i wasn't even thinking that far this was just like man it worked yeah it was so crazy because

00:12:00.960 we don't know each other from adam even at that point we don't know each other from adam we would

00:12:05.480 learn in interviews about one another about each other yeah i don't know you did that now as you

00:12:10.360 started to get famous i'm just curious about this kind of stuff you know because fame and popularity

00:12:14.280 is such like a it's a interesting thing right and it's its own thing because you can't exactly plan

00:12:19.480 for it like were there things that you kind of missed kind of immediately about that like

00:12:25.400 because once you kind of once it starts to happen it's hard to put it you can't really put your life

00:12:30.560 back into that old jug really no and you don't see it coming you can't plan for it no matter where

00:12:35.200 where it is i think you know even if you grew up around it which i didn't but i can remember this is

00:12:40.160 so strange still i can remember going home after the first like say run the real like tour we were

00:12:46.000 opening for reber or whatever and uh my wife and and uh mother-in-law going she said you've changed

00:12:55.360 i'm like what he changed he said you're not the same and it's like i didn't feel like anything was

00:13:04.000 any abnormal other than i was going out on a bus and singing in front of people i didn't come back

00:13:08.080 going you know hey i'm famous yeah yeah just but people's perception of you changes you know don't

00:13:15.840 you think yeah and that yeah it is and yeah and it's kind of uncomfortable because you don't

00:13:19.840 you kind of wish it wouldn't well you need that safety net of of normalcy you know come back to

00:13:26.800 especially at home and it was just kind of all of a sudden you're getting pushed pushed in the

00:13:32.560 corner in a way by that whatever perception is of fame i just did a bunch of acid so we're good

00:13:39.280 we're heavy with this oh i'm not even here it's just coming it's coming out of cosmic space right

00:13:46.640 oh mushroom not acid acid job i think that it's funny i'm just my wheels are turning just

00:13:52.800 thinking about those times and and honestly i love somebody made a statement one time we're

00:13:58.400 having a conversation like this and said yeah i want to be a star i want to be a star i want to be

00:14:03.040 a star will you people please leave me alone you know i've never felt that way you know i mean

00:14:09.120 like ronnie for so many years we were i was 36 he was 38 when we met you know with nothing going on

00:14:15.920 really and i mean that's that's a that's pretty old to just get started with a career where you're

00:14:24.320 put together by a record company and to think you're gonna have a 30 year plus run or something

00:14:29.760 you know we didn't think about the 30 plus a year our philosophy was hey you got three three to five

00:14:35.760 years all right let's maximize it let's take what little money we make and i was going to go our big

00:14:42.000 um janine my wife and i just just got married in oklahoma so our goal was you know what interest

00:14:48.240 rates are like 10 and this was it back back tells you how far back it was interest rates 10 we make

00:14:54.240 a million dollars we can live off a hundred thousand dollars a year and live like kings you know that

00:15:00.560 we drove up to the first house bought this little house in nashville we go we're just here for a little

00:15:05.680 while save your money yeah you know honestly i i don't know if you remember this ronnie but we were

00:15:12.000 we were sitting in the nashville airport just shooting the bull and we've always just i guess

00:15:17.360 had kind of a natural just a couple of guys and were smart asses just you know just goofballing all

00:15:23.680 the time talking to people just like like we are today and and anyway these two girls came over and

00:15:30.160 and i saw three of them over there talking and they came over and asked if they could get an

00:15:34.560 autograph and they had a cd and whatever and you know we just shot the bull back and forth a little

00:15:39.840 bit and whatever and i mean they were sweet whenever we signed their cds and i've always been happy to

00:15:45.680 do that glad anybody cares you know oh yeah and uh and a couple minutes later their friend comes over

00:15:51.760 and said our friends told us what you said we're we're getting rid of all our cds we've always thought

00:15:56.240 y'all were so great and what i mean just teed up on us and we're looking at each other i'm going i'm

00:16:02.320 trying to remember this conversation what i could have possibly said that and i i mean i like to think

00:16:09.760 of myself as a good guy nice guy and i and i've always respected our fans and everything else i'm like

00:16:15.920 what just happened but it made me realize that moment that that minute that we spent together

00:16:25.200 you totally wrap somebody's impression of you and what kind of human you are yeah and how they'll

00:16:31.440 tell everybody they meet for the rest of their lives that they're just jerks you know and you just

00:16:36.880 that's the part did you ever find out what you said i have no idea what we said you were involved

00:16:41.840 yeah that's what i'm thinking what did you say i wasn't there i wasn't there don't pull don't suck

00:16:50.000 me down that rabbit hole it does feel like you get on this one like this one minute game show to

00:16:54.640 prove to somebody that you're okay or something i don't know yeah that stuff it's like it's like

00:16:59.520 a job interview you gotta be quick yeah and you yeah and you in the job is you want them to think

00:17:04.960 you're okay or something you know you're the guy for the job yeah one minute yeah yeah you can do it

00:17:11.360 i can't yeah that kind of stuff gets a little tricky was it tough like um what about like having a

00:17:17.040 family and stuff and touring so much like what were things that like yeah what what's that like

00:17:22.080 like dude is it hectic dude i had just been married i mean we just got married came up and

00:17:29.920 in june carter cash gave us a little cabin on top of the hill up next not far from their house to live

00:17:35.920 in wow and uh so nice little house like something out of a magazine and but it was on top of mountain

00:17:45.680 by itself and so was she boom we get we had a hit right out of the gate we're gone uh and it wasn't

00:17:55.200 too long it's like i mean we didn't have we had like cell phones but we didn't i think i have cameras

00:18:02.720 but i started getting these terrorist faxes i called them like she would fax the hotel because i

00:18:09.280 talked longer than we talked so long on the phone they go okay all right all right all right i'll be

00:18:13.680 home you know in two weeks i know i understand i get it i love you bye you know ring because i'm not

00:18:20.080 i'm not answering the phone that ain't gonna happen so not not 10 minutes later i get this

00:18:26.240 knock on the door and it's like they slide this stack of faxes underneath so she started faxing me

00:18:32.800 it's like what the hell uh and this goes on for i don't know a few months and we we sorted it out but

00:18:39.120 to this day i mean then she's it was i had to go to therapy over it oh i'm sure with her without her

00:18:45.120 with her at her at her request obviously you know because i'm broken she's not anyway

00:18:50.000 that's a long thing you know eric chennault had one of those that because we had a

00:18:55.520 a cell phone per se on tour but it was like something that the army would use you know it

00:19:00.080 had a suitcase thing that it was in and all that you know the second you press the button a helicopter

00:19:04.480 would come behind you like 18 bucks a minute a long way from

00:19:12.960 it's important it wasn't cheap man it wasn't yeah but it wasn't with our wives or anything

00:19:17.440 we were a little no we didn't give our wives a number

00:19:23.120 it's important it was strictly a beer phone

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00:23:25.520 manscaped.com but my kids were my kids were on the bus that was in the summer it was good because we

00:23:38.240 were still playing a lot of fares and stuff back then and you know during it was kind of like summer

00:23:43.040 vacation honestly it was and uh i didn't i never never mind we got fortunately we did have some success

00:23:50.560 and made a little money and we're able to get our own buses pretty early is the reason we're still

00:23:55.440 sitting here having this conversation there were 13 of us on one bus yeah with the merchandise where

00:24:01.120 you get boxes of t-shirts and stuff like that and then uh one of our guitar players slept in the back

00:24:07.680 with with the merchandise oh yeah there's always that it was animal house it was i got human gerbil he's

00:24:13.760 back there just burrowing in a bunch of extra large back there it was absolute animal house he just

00:24:19.520 completely just covered himself with nine mediums back there you know it was it was got him bird

00:24:24.400 burton who was a famous guitar player that for their amazing rhythm aces a bunch of rock stuff and

00:24:30.000 you know he'd come up there bless his heart we were currently trying to you know really trying to keep

00:24:35.040 him around uh so how you have the sofa in the back with the merchandise you know he goes we don't have

00:24:41.120 any blankets so you sleep under t-shirts right anyway it was it was animal house it was like animal

00:24:47.680 house yeah we had one guy that's like all you know all the bunks like there's what nine

00:24:51.840 six to a two to a side i think yeah and then the back lounge and there's one guy that we called him

00:24:58.480 what uh fred sanford you know from he was the junk man and you couldn't stop at a truck stop and he

00:25:03.280 wouldn't go in like buy a freaking cb like a cb radio and a bunch of chips you hear him at four in the

00:25:09.520 morning turn over it'd be like a ace hardware in his bunk you know cracking around the bags crinkling

00:25:16.720 at night and stuff like what and then all of a sudden there's a there's the the uh the wall and

00:25:21.760 then the bunks and you see like their chip uh bag would like fall down through the next guy he's like

00:25:26.800 god dang man it was it was crazy stuff truck stops are great though oh man so much good stuff in there

00:25:33.280 especially when you cross the border early on faith hill was opening up for us and and oh wow

00:25:38.720 huh yeah and i forget oh and uh and way boys love that y'all struck out with her i guess yeah

00:25:45.680 we got stranded in canada in a uh a snowstorm yeah yeah god couldn't have set the table any

00:25:52.400 better it was tough it was rough yeah so in the first truck stop i go in and i'm looking at all

00:25:58.480 their cool stuff in the freezer in canada and i put it was a eel it was a frozen eel in the freezer

00:26:05.120 and i'm like wow so i bought it i mean i have no idea what i'm gonna do with this but i couldn't

00:26:11.360 resist but that was a phase when everybody started but that was a phase when everybody was playing

00:26:16.000 pranks on the road oh yeah faith the faith was like she was one of the guys i mean you had to

00:26:20.480 keep up with that she would she would throw stuff and an eel could come in handy in all kinds of

00:26:25.440 regards and who'd even had a eel i don't even some people don't even canadians yeah yeah i think that

00:26:30.400 was the points while you bought it it's like look at this what the hell it's kind of a little bit of

00:26:34.240 a nicer snake it's the most canadian thing you know yeah and but we get to the end of the tour

00:26:38.960 and sure enough i walked by we're fixing to go to the you know stage faith faith is on next and

00:26:45.360 wade haise had just gotten off stage i went by to tell him you know good show and whatever and he's

00:26:48.880 kind of leaned over he's looking pretty peaked and i'm like dude you okay he's like no man it's like

00:26:54.400 faith put salt in my drinking water on stage tonight i go oh and he was six i'm like that's

00:27:01.200 wrong i got you dude so she was in she's in a hotel but we had the codes to her room and her

00:27:09.120 fictitious name whatever she was using at the time so me and and doug make a run well first i put the eel

00:27:16.240 in in the uh microwave and the eel didn't even have a head i mean and then once you've thawed him out he

00:27:22.880 got real slimy you know so we had over there breaking childhood it must have had dude you

00:27:28.400 know it and bring your own food pull back pull back the covers and just laid him out right where

00:27:35.600 those pretty little feats were gonna go you know kind of pushed it down so we put the covers back

00:27:40.320 just made it look really good anyway and the next didn't hear a thing she didn't say anything we just

00:27:46.560 keep waiting for the other shoe to fall nothing so we're going through customs getting back into the

00:27:51.840 states the next day you know inside i die and i go through and you know ladies go and she goes

00:27:58.080 mr brooks okay yes she goes i need you to come over here to the side i go yeah she goes apparently

00:28:03.200 there's uh been a complaint um filed against you about some stolen jewelry uh by miss faith hill

00:28:09.600 and she starts pulling this rubber glove on and i go look don't do that don't do that it ain't in

00:28:15.760 there you better not be kidding her i swear to god she could she couldn't hold it now she finally

00:28:26.240 broke i go come on it's not our first day but leave me alone you're not even in this game

00:28:33.120 you did sing a little higher that night the world was fun then too when things were a little bit

00:28:40.480 more simple you know oh yeah you know in a lot of ways yeah that was a lot of fun man and you

00:28:47.200 couldn't capture the moment as much so you had to enjoy the moment because that was the only you

00:28:51.280 know what i'm saying well you got too much downtime i mean it was it was not you know if you're not on

00:28:55.040 stage doing something creative you're doing something destructively creative on the back side oh yeah

00:28:59.600 you know you know you've been out there oh it's the dark arts out there brother it is did you guys

00:29:04.960 ever have a comedian that opened up for you guys i know sometimes they used to do that on shows

00:29:08.960 gary mule deer oh really yeah still a good friend love gary yeah we did um did uh what vegas vegas a

00:29:17.440 couple times um yeah with him it's hysterical i don't know how many times but he was out with us

00:29:22.320 quite a bit that's a tough gig i feel like well he but he played guitar as well uh well you know gary's

00:29:28.640 like um he he does play guitar and it's you know it's incredible because he just did a we did a show

00:29:35.200 together out in california not too long ago and he played because he always he's he's got a johnny

00:29:40.880 cash voice and he'll do uh ring of fire or something like that every now and then uh he's he's hysterical

00:29:46.880 though uh just real real straight face joke teller and can just break you down i gotta tap in with him

00:29:53.920 i've heard of him before i've seen a lot of like because committees you go to the next club and the other

00:29:57.600 person's just been there you know and i've seen a lot of his uh you know seen his name a ton over

00:30:02.800 the years but i've been around forever but he he actually performed a song and it was i bet this

00:30:08.720 thing had 20 verses and it was it was it was i'm not kidding it was like but it was a real country music

00:30:16.320 analog kind of take you through this whole journey of thing it was really neat big time stand to know

00:30:22.320 because i've seen him perform i don't even know how many times at this point and um and everybody

00:30:29.040 there was like wow you got that off your chest and he did not tell a single joke really saying that he

00:30:34.800 sang that one song and left the stage so it was so cool but it was a humorous song no it wasn't funny

00:30:40.800 it was it was a real song and it was it was he was a comedian he is a comedian he's a great comedian yeah

00:30:47.200 but maybe that's his idea of comedy him and roger miller him and roger miller toured together wow

00:30:52.160 and you've heard of people doing these roger isms these funny things that he told all he knows all

00:30:56.880 of them i mean if you ever run into him get him going on roger because he's he's one of the great

00:31:02.560 historians that the keepers of the roger isms too great guy funny comedian yeah i need to run into him

00:31:09.440 yeah what do you feel like like um like being a duo was there were there other duos that like in

00:31:15.600 um music that reached out to you guys over the years to help learn how to navigate that um like

00:31:23.520 that template kind of does that make any sense to you uh yeah it does make sense but but no no

00:31:30.720 as friendly as they say that you know the world of country music is it's so darn competitive you know

00:31:35.760 everybody hates one another they act like they don't on tv but you think people are really competitive

00:31:41.120 though oh heck yeah no big time competitive one of my favorite things is dolly partner in an interview

00:31:46.400 years and years ago she's they were talking about somebody and being she's goes oh honey

00:31:51.200 there's room for everybody no there's not you want to get down to it no there's not you know what's

00:31:57.680 the most competitive part is it people trying to get the best songs is it like where does the

00:32:03.440 competition really come in do you feel like because that's interesting i think just by nature to be to

00:32:08.480 be here and be in this game in your game or anything that there's a there's a competitive

00:32:13.440 don't you feel there's a there's a competitive dynamic that that runs through it especially

00:32:18.720 in the beginning for sure yeah but you want to catch up like how many number ones do you have who

00:32:22.560 had a number one this week who has it yeah and we can be cool and like sit back and go you know we

00:32:27.040 don't care you know it's no big deal we're not in it for that rent it for the love yeah and that's not

00:32:32.800 the case well but that's also health is what keeps you going we do make some real friends along the

00:32:38.880 way we have i mean you do yeah there are people that you you're competent i mean david lee murphy's a

00:32:47.520 great example you know he wrote with him yesterday uh you know the song dust on the bottle i'd be a

00:32:52.960 little that's david lee murphy yes him singing him writing turned into writing a lot of great songs too

00:32:59.600 yeah and we got here both got here in 79 literally swept floors for charlie daniels for 30 bucks a

00:33:06.320 night i was you know getting rent paid and playing writers nights and stuff and um and still he's on

00:33:13.760 tour with us now and uh you know going out with this next year we toured with again last year and we've

00:33:18.720 toured together before just there's we've got real friends that the competition uh i can't say i don't

00:33:27.440 know maybe it does go away or something and at some point in your life i think you have a certain

00:33:32.400 amount of success you still want to succeed but it's like you're not so ferocious yeah like when you

00:33:40.080 start and everything matters and it's not that everything doesn't matter anymore but it's like

00:33:46.400 everything kind of turned down the heat a little bit you know let's simmer here and see if we can't do

00:33:51.920 something real something good now we kind of know you can't you build confidence too again like i said

00:33:57.520 ronnie and i we didn't figure we'd go a year or two that's why we were desperate through pretty much

00:34:03.920 through our whole career is just kind of this isn't going to work this we you know we're always doubting

00:34:09.120 ourselves you know always trying to do anything we could what you know to do something really special

00:34:15.040 because it's probably going to be our last song you know our last video i mean we've always kind of

00:34:20.400 felt a little desperate i think does it feel like it's out of your control sometimes as a musician

00:34:26.400 because a lot of it is what songs you get right and you can write your own songs you can write them

00:34:31.040 with other people but does it ever feel like it's out of your control kind of like you know how well you

00:34:36.320 keep doing or does it feel like it's in your control you know what this it is i mean 60 60 70 percent i don't

00:34:42.720 know how much you can add to the dynamic i can add up to 100 of luck right no i guess i don't know

00:34:50.480 we could try to do more i can't even i mean it's luck a lot of it is luck you know but but it's the

00:34:56.000 thing if you know if you're you're working and at it and and luck strikes it's like you're ready for

00:35:01.280 it you know you got your ball middle and bang catch it and uh we're we're from there but you know but

00:35:07.440 we we work hard at it we're i mean we're songwriters before we're right that's a good

00:35:11.920 impressive great point y'all weren't up there just hey somebody sell me a hit you're like

00:35:16.080 i have the ability to make my own it's all about song it's all about the song and then as you move

00:35:20.240 through the business you meet people you meet people with their pitching you give me good songs

00:35:24.240 too you know and you can't can't write them all you know uh and timing has a lot to do with it yeah

00:35:31.440 it really does what do you mean that's luck too yeah certainly that is it's all yeah luck is just

00:35:36.000 time yeah time is just luck with a clock there you go that's great write that down we both i mean we

00:35:41.680 both had some kind of solo record deals before we had to do a deal ronnie was singing his ass off

00:35:47.040 before i met him wow at 38 years old why wasn't he a star already right you know i don't know bring

00:35:53.040 it up age i'm just saying it's 38 years older you're afraid of that don't look 38 yeah is it tough to

00:36:02.560 age gracefully is it tough to be like because even i notice it you know in my own career it's like

00:36:07.760 you know you start to do good and you're like oh well i'm getting older and then you're like you

00:36:10.800 start to see the younger guys that are doing well and you're like oh well this is all gonna is there

00:36:16.080 a graceful way for this to end or does it just end or like i think you just play that one by ear

00:36:22.960 you know i keep telling people i'm gonna die in denial about you know related to age it's like i'm

00:36:29.280 i'm not gonna know how old i am i don't want to know it pisses me off you see every every article you

00:36:35.280 know there's somebody they're writing stuff and you go well and so and so you know 80 years old

00:36:41.280 whatever uh leave the age out of this i think he's out there rocking he's cool oh yeah yeah

00:36:49.520 go to willie you know he'd be the standard bearer for that but no i mean mccartney they're still out

00:36:55.680 they're still out doing their thing yeah i was actually someone about in a couple of months ago was

00:37:00.240 that we were in the same bathroom at the same time wow what'd you do huh what'd you do just a number

00:37:05.200 one did you try to shake his hand or anything oh no i didn't do anything like that huh i freeze

00:37:09.920 hey i just let it be dude that was a little wow you said something to him i think i i honestly i

00:37:19.360 probably said like good day or something like that like i think i was probably trying to

00:37:23.280 welcome him in like a british tone or something good day mate

00:37:27.200 yeah i freeze i freeze each time i get around somebody that's really really famous

00:37:32.320 i just i'm back

00:37:35.680 right good night no you're in ireland good day mate

00:37:39.760 they're like prisoners from england or something good

00:37:44.320 i've never cool around somebody famous i wish i could be uh-uh yeah were there guys like that coming

00:37:49.680 up that you guys met uh or what question did i just ask let me make sure i stay on topic sorry

00:37:54.880 were you ever in the bathroom with paul mccartney tell us about the time you and mccartney were in

00:38:00.960 the bathroom oh one time i went to a one time i was also in the bathroom with i'll go through them

00:38:06.720 all uh montel williams okay he was a talk show host and kid rock one time and i urinated right

00:38:13.920 between them dude oh wow that's a dangerous that's a dmz man it really is just incoming you know you

00:38:21.440 make the wrong move there anything could go to go happen either way yeah either way it was

00:38:25.760 just want to try and shake hands just to see what they're going to do though

00:38:32.240 hey man it's just i've always you know just especially if you reach over the

00:38:36.160 salt yeah

00:38:38.800 johnny cash said that the the strangest thing like that that ever happened to him and he said

00:38:44.400 he was in a in a stall in the airport or something he said this this paper slips under the wall

00:38:49.760 i was like we're good don't touch it yeah i don't have a pencil like hey that paper likes men that's

00:38:57.120 all i'm saying um so you guys got to meet johnny cash yeah no way yeah what was he like like just as

00:39:04.080 a regular guy was he like a friendly guy was he kind of like a stoic guy stoic quiet by nature when

00:39:09.520 you first meet him just did and that's that in and of itself it's intimidating oh yeah and uh

00:39:15.680 then as you get to know him he's a 17 year old okay a kid you know that that was it i mean he

00:39:22.000 do just crazy you know funny as all get out yeah yeah my wife uh her first husband uh in in rented

00:39:30.880 the car one piece at a time uh and johnny sang about it one piece of time anyway built that car he

00:39:37.920 built the car oh built that car one piece at a time yeah the song he built the car so he uh

00:39:44.160 or johnny really built a car so i'm confused no her ex-wife built the car about the song that johnny

00:39:50.240 sang got it he liked a song and him and his bud said man let's let's build it let's actually build

00:39:55.120 it they're always going around they own cold strip coal mines in oklahoma and he uh johnny did or his

00:40:01.200 friends no no janine my wife okay got it yeah so she was they were well acquainted they they all became fast

00:40:07.200 friends traveled the world together i mean really really tight and uh so what when i was brought in

00:40:15.040 her husband passed away and uh when i was brought in it's like she's she's marrying or dating a musician

00:40:23.680 you know and uh janine goes i'm gonna take you to john and june's house in nashville first time

00:40:30.640 she did it from oklahoma and i went i don't really don't do that you know i just kind of saw that one

00:40:35.520 coming you know and uh uh john and you of course john's real quiet and would you wear over that you

00:40:41.600 get dressed up or what you know black all black no i mean your jeans what i have on now this kind of

00:40:47.440 stuff and uh were you nervous or not you remember yeah yeah i was always i was super shy and quiet and

00:40:53.760 then i'm kind of coming out of my shell a little bit these days but uh

00:40:59.200 he was obviously glad to see her i mean i'm the new kid on the block you know you don't just

00:41:02.640 scrutiny it's like who's just a long drink of water yeah your girlfriend's bringing you to

00:41:06.560 over to meet her parents who's just pervert or whatever yeah yeah i mean i don't know you but

00:41:11.360 yeah i mean i'm a pervert so i'm sure most of us all that goes with it okay you can't be in a band

00:41:16.640 not be a pervert anyway and johnny knew that being pervert himself

00:41:24.960 oh yeah who isn't right dude if you show me 70 people yeah i'll show you 70 perverts

00:41:29.920 you're a comedian yeah yeah you're a pervert wow that's pretty fascinating though and did you

00:41:36.400 did people look up to him as like a like kind of like was he this was he as uh because now he's

00:41:43.120 almost he there's an idolatry about him in a way you know you see the t-shirts with the johnny cash

00:41:47.760 that and just says cash on the like no he's but he's always been that way it's always been forever

00:41:51.760 listen here's a funny thing uh so the log cabin that they they let us live in so june did that for

00:41:58.640 janine not for me you know called her and said look okay this guy's going to try to make it in

00:42:03.200 the music business you know good luck it ain't gonna happen but we'll give you a place to live okay

00:42:07.520 right we'll give you a flammable home right temporary residence okay because it's not gonna

00:42:13.520 last long till i find you a guy with money all right so thank god we have these hits right off

00:42:19.200 the bat and suddenly june goes whoo okay you're in you know she told janine during that first visit

00:42:26.080 she said look here's how it goes down she says it the chance the odds are a million to one but no

00:42:33.280 10 billion to one you know they'll make it and and if if he does it's not gonna last long it's just

00:42:39.360 that's not that's the nature of the business and uh number three they're all crazy if they do make it

00:42:45.120 for a long time you know so she she called her babies uh it was waylon jennings willie nelson hank jr

00:42:54.320 uh uh larry gatlin i mean just the wild boys of that that era oh yeah the feral yeah so she goes

00:43:03.520 you know just just look you know they put us through hell right she said so get ready you

00:43:10.240 know she said there's no there's no good to it there's no no so anyway where was i uh with johnny you

00:43:18.720 said was he stoic and stuff first day there uh june takes janine and they leave the house to go

00:43:25.760 shopping oh so it's just you and him and me and john in that house alone okay i always go in the

00:43:31.680 bathroom and stay at least a minute to get ready to and yes sir it's like i'm the unwelcome guest or at

00:43:37.200 least i'm feeling that way oh for sure and uh and they're they're john's quiet anyway he does he

00:43:44.240 hasn't he hasn't like and what's he just polishing a gun or something no no probably yes pretty close

00:43:51.600 to it he comes out of far into the house there are two black uh leather recliners in front of this tv

00:43:59.440 and uh he sits down and he's watching like cnn or whatever and i sit in the next one just sitting

00:44:06.880 there and no one says anything i'm like how long has done my life i didn't know what to say to him

00:44:13.760 because he didn't he didn't talk but now i know know what i know he didn't talk to anybody right

00:44:18.000 uh and all of a sudden out of the blue he goes you see these uh you see these these news reels here

00:44:25.600 these these things he said that's a loop and he said you know i'm an addict i went okay and he goes i used

00:44:34.000 to sit and watch tv for days until those loops would end and then he said it would start a whole

00:44:40.640 and other cycle of the news and he's explaining you know how tv works to me and that stuff and

00:44:46.960 through the eyes of being high yeah

00:44:53.440 you know and shortly after that it seemed like two days that we were sitting there it's probably

00:44:58.240 a couple hours and uh janine and june come back and they've been shopping at steinmark and uh

00:45:05.040 i like steinmark actually some of the sleeves are a little different well june took her there in her

00:45:10.800 new uh blue rolls royce that john had just given her for her so there's there's a little dot you know

00:45:15.440 ying yang there yeah janine was just pale white now she knows no strangers so you never see janine down

00:45:21.600 so she kind of walked and she was like she'd just been scared by a ghost and uh i kind of peeled away

00:45:28.720 and met her in the back of the house i said what happened she goes i'll tell you later i can't talk about it

00:45:33.040 well june had read her the right act on on all this stuff i just told you about you know they're

00:45:40.160 not going to last dot dot dot dot dot dot dot and i said can we go now she goes no we got one more day

00:45:48.560 one more day right but no sooner no sooner did we get here and and they were the most absolute

00:45:54.480 supportive people in the world john came up one day we were getting ready to shoot the the cd cover

00:45:59.360 for brandy man the first cd and uh i said he he was always into everything he says what are you

00:46:05.680 gonna wear you know how you gonna look i can do your hair or that kind of stuff into image i said well

00:46:10.240 i don't know i said don't i've got a few things ideas he goes all right i'll be back he said left

00:46:16.400 getting his mercedes he shot out it's down the hill he had needed a goat to get up the mountain to it

00:46:21.520 becomes fly he goes flying down the hill i guess he goes home comes back in an hour or so

00:46:27.200 opens the trunk of the car reaches in and hands me this black suit and he goes he goes i had this

00:46:33.920 back in 1972 it's made by manuel and he goes i was sick back then which meant i was he was sick yeah

00:46:41.600 right so he was skinny enough for me to wear my skinny ass to get in that suit you know he goes don't

00:46:48.560 don't tell june she doesn't like me giving stuff away and i have it to the day i wore it on the

00:46:52.640 back of that cd cover oh wow yeah that's that's crazy oh it was hey man check the pockets dude let's

00:47:00.080 party it was that thing's got something it was something and the parties there too was strictly

00:47:04.400 lemonade lemonade and iced tea really keeping it sober keeping it completely sober uh on the table for

00:47:11.600 sure oh yeah you know and nothing in the back kitchen i mean she she was she was pretty she wore the

00:47:17.040 pants in that deal huh was she pretty much a yeah he probably needed a care somebody to really care

00:47:22.400 care for him yeah let me add spice to that that little story is that that particular weekend that

00:47:28.640 we were there he was on furlough from rehab okay and how long do you have to be in real life you get

00:47:34.880 furloughed i thought that was a military i don't know johnny cash right only johnny cash would have went

00:47:39.600 to right only he would have went to boot camp right right and so all of a sudden at the end

00:47:45.520 how many tours did he do right oh he did a lot but the day the day before he's supposed to go

00:47:50.960 back this is a saturday he's going back on sunday he comes down with the flu but june's having no part

00:47:56.480 of that she's completely just uh no we're done so she wanted to talk to him and we're caught in the

00:48:03.200 middle of that and i'm going can we go home now can we go home no no no not yet please go

00:48:08.560 june can tell this story better than i can but so june goes to june she goes y'all have to drive

00:48:15.200 me to the hospital take him to the hospital here in hendersonville make sure just see what's wrong

00:48:19.440 with him she says i'm not talking to him says he can walk as far as i'm concerned okay we got it

00:48:24.240 so we get in the car start to get in the car john wants to drive

00:48:27.840 yeah okay so john drives he drove yeah man but it was like pedal to the metal boom off all the way

00:48:35.840 pedal to the metal and jenny so he just drives you start nodding off and you nod back on

00:48:42.080 we get the hospital and they're rolling in in a wheelchair and uh janine goes up to the desk to give

00:48:49.040 them all the information and they take john back and he's there maybe an hour and then we come back

00:48:54.400 and uh he goes up to his room you know his hospital room at the house he's he's playing it up man he's

00:49:02.720 like i got pneumonia i can't go back she goes you're going back to rehab uh so june goes well how did it

00:49:09.920 go janine she goes well they asked for his doctor and june goes oh hon he's in rehab the doctor was

00:49:16.240 in the doctor was in rehab oh lord he goes oh sweet no no no he hadn't made furlough yeah

00:49:24.960 dr nick's in rehab i said okay we can go now right pretty soon wow that's a great story that's my

00:49:32.320 first johnny cash and june carter unbelievable experience we had rick flair uh we spoke with

00:49:39.440 him one time the famous wrestler you know him and he's quite a character and he uh he was in

00:49:44.640 a rehab center and the doctor that got put in there with him and he was in there and one day

00:49:52.240 one day they're giving pills to both of them and he's like why are you giving pills to the doctor

00:49:56.160 like no the doctor's in here now oh yeah i mean so apparently that's part of the deal man well it's

00:50:04.240 just everywhere let's say that oh yeah look so many of my friends i mean i i i go to recovery meetings so

00:50:10.560 many people deal with you know that sort of stuff was it tough for you guys to keep it clean over the

00:50:15.520 years did you guys get tempted with drugs or alcohol or what was that like ever i don't know

00:50:19.200 really tempted with drugs or alcohol huh yeah no not me did you ronnie i'll go with you you

00:50:26.720 don't want to explain this we might we might have took a drink or two along the way i don't know i think

00:50:34.000 ronnie took a lot of pills but i never did oh what foul foul oh yeah but i have i have allergies

00:50:47.120 oh now you do a lot of allergies i've never seen somebody in yeah oh that dust will give it to you

00:50:54.400 i'm from louisiana too dude i started drinking at a very early age

00:50:58.640 yeah that's true wow was it hard yeah were there certain points where you guys had to like tell

00:51:05.440 each like yeah at what point do you guys have do you guys ever have to be like each other's like uh

00:51:11.360 caretaker yeah but not caretaker in the sense like actually physically but just like

00:51:15.520 you know and then how hard is it to take that suggestion from the other guy you know like from

00:51:20.880 the other lead we don't do it much we don't do it much i mean that's one of the unique dynamics

00:51:25.120 about how we you know the relationship we have we don't do that if it is it'll be some comment in

00:51:31.840 passing and you know and you'll know honestly we sit here and laugh about this stuff but there's not

00:51:37.280 a lot of nonsense that goes on it's like we're up there to do what we do we appreciate where we are

00:51:43.040 and and god knows we know the pitfalls yeah yeah and have we ever been over served on stage or whatever

00:51:50.000 like that yes has anyone ever told us are you slurring your words yeah you're slurring your

00:52:02.320 you know you've already written that song don't write it again in the middle of it you know that

00:52:06.640 kind of shit but yeah yeah yeah we've had a few faux pas that people don't believe when i tell them

00:52:13.360 this we have never i mean we're both you know hard-headed whatever's you know i came from a

00:52:18.960 pipeline background same with him you know and it it's um we have never raised our voices to each

00:52:26.080 other wow have we ever been mad at each other yeah have we ever been pissed at each other yeah for

00:52:31.680 sure we'll go off and pout but that's it you know we've always been able to go to our separate

00:52:36.400 corners and come back later in some of that you think it was just because you because you like

00:52:41.520 started to achieve your like your most success that people would know you from once you were older

00:52:46.400 like you think if it would have been younger like do you ever think like the blessings because it's

00:52:49.760 kind of a blessing and a curse because everybody wants to be everybody wants to be 27 and famous

00:52:54.720 you know yeah but if you're 38 and you get popular you know it's it feels a little different you know

00:53:00.480 has a lot to do with it you appreciate it you know yeah because there was there was a point

00:53:05.840 for a long time where there was no plan b yeah you know and and we both felt out and uh no so you

00:53:12.240 you you learn to you appreciate it it's just that just it's just you know beating into you

00:53:17.920 through through the ranks yeah dude we used to slow dance to y'all's music dude i would be so nervous

00:53:25.120 dude god dude i just couldn't even i would stand so far away from the girl like as far as i could but

00:53:36.640 still touching her a little like this kind of you know barely touching her two fingers

00:53:42.560 you were down in the trenches man you were on the floor see we're up there on the bass thing going

00:53:47.600 i don't look right just go on dude go on get up against it go on what are you doing

00:53:54.720 i was too i couldn't get up it was too hard man whole front of my body sweat i never knew you could

00:54:03.120 sweat just in one hemisphere of your body and never move

00:54:10.880 you guys uh we were talking about songwriting earlier you guys your new album has a lot of like

00:54:16.480 some of my favorites on and people that have that we've been able to have on the podcast before i think

00:54:20.880 uh ernest is on hardy morgan yeah laney laney wilson who's how amazing is laney wilson she's

00:54:29.520 great she's special man she's special she's a louisiana girl from right up the road from where

00:54:34.480 my farm is yeah yeah yeah i mean literally we're honestly 18 miles apart oh that is close you're

00:54:42.240 from covington i think i saw somewhere did you really spend grow up there yeah you did yeah i grew up

00:54:48.000 there our town is we have this tallest statue of ronald reagan there somebody stole the arm but

00:54:53.760 they got it back they got it back yeah somebody like how'd they get it off uh i don't know what

00:54:58.880 kind of is it bronze or it was i think it's bronze or something oh no it's special oh there you go

00:55:05.120 so so which arm huh was he the warmy his right arm or his left arm i'm not sure you can google that too

00:55:13.200 how'd they get the arm off yeah well you can google that how'd they get the arm off they get

00:55:19.120 the arm off of reagan in covington louisiana a lot of welders down there right first of all

00:55:25.920 they got torches they got torches that's pipeline country damn right oh we can get an arm off you

00:55:34.320 want to arm yeah how far they tried to recycle it that's how they caught the guy and yeah they took it

00:55:39.600 to like the local out aluminum oh because he's thinking it's maybe copper or something he can

00:55:43.760 buy some crack i'm gonna get me hell yeah i'm gonna get me a couple hundred bucks right yeah they cut

00:55:48.160 it i guarantee he's a welder yeah look at ronnie um oh that was in poland yeah so they must have done

00:55:54.960 it but they did it by us too somebody got it off but they got it back on it was a copycat uh

00:55:59.920 thing a copycat arm thief wow that's dark what no they did it in poland how far okay how far is

00:56:10.320 covington from eldorado arkansas because the long way is south louisiana okay yeah he's close to baton

00:56:15.760 because we talk a lot about about northern louisiana where the farm is and monroe and all that so

00:56:22.160 all my grandparents are from eldorado arkansas okay it's a beautiful country out there yeah i mean it's

00:56:27.040 pretty shreveport's kind of gone through a it's been through some things you know yeah it's pretty

00:56:32.560 funky which is where i went to school oh yeah whatever yeah they just tore down the tallest

00:56:36.880 building in shreveport what really bring it down doing them not the beck building uh this was in

00:56:43.120 him they did a beautiful implosion i watched it the other day on tick tock i wonder if that's where it

00:56:46.800 was that's where my father's office was was it a drone attack i don't know the tallest building in

00:56:53.840 this report what there it is they just brought it down yeah it's a i think it was the that

00:57:00.000 that's it that's a bank building uh yeah it was a bank building you're right yeah because i think

00:57:04.800 because the middle of the neck building's 20 stories must have been the richest mitch's

00:57:08.960 building in town wow that's pretty fancy right there beautiful building look at all those what

00:57:14.000 they tear it up for real glass windows on them yeah i don't know that's it right there

00:57:19.040 probably somebody's wife was trying to get in a settlement around it right it wasn't the tallest

00:57:25.920 it was the only probably probably for a casino it could have been man street for it's kind of

00:57:34.320 wild that whole i've been like there's a lot of haunted everything's there seems kind of haunted

00:57:38.560 that's louisiana in general yeah it's like new ireland you know everything's haunted like you

00:57:43.360 want to buy this haunted biscuit or whatever it's monkey foot it's two extra bucks it's got

00:57:48.160 it's got some damn ghost jam in it or whatever right everything does it's got voodoo all over it

00:57:52.560 yeah is that hot i hope so ghost jam yeah i just think but yeah everything in new

00:57:59.840 orleans haunted it's like oh you haven't been this haunted this is haunted you know it's like a

00:58:04.400 nursery for children but they it's haunted okay so i read this article the other day well i guess it

00:58:08.320 was on online it's like the the top 10 most uh oh least desirable states to live in and louisiana

00:58:16.320 was number one oh wow i can't imagine that right i'm saying bro come on champs no you got out you

00:58:22.320 got out everybody's not in the haunted look at you apparently famous 49 states worth of people

00:58:30.320 that aren't in the haunted yeah if you don't like shit haunted yeah y'all just stay off there we'll

00:58:35.120 i forget what it was i forget what it was based on oh you want to live in the natural realm that's

00:58:40.400 fine we're doing other stuff you don't have a monkey foot under your pillow

00:58:45.360 hanging from your mirror yeah you don't have a baby that has that's chewing on a lucky rabbit's foot

00:58:52.400 you wouldn't know a hoodoo man from colonel sanders what

00:58:57.120 oh everything there is haunted or soaking wet dude yeah that's louisiana yeah

00:59:03.120 yeah everything's got a little bit of mold on it we go down there uh you go down all the time

00:59:08.400 because you've got your farms down there and place and all your buddies from three four

00:59:12.000 love it we go down there and duck hunt like it down the marshes oh yeah but i've never been duck

00:59:16.720 hunting yeah it's going next week are you oh yeah is it um is it more enjoyable than turkey hunting or

00:59:23.840 do you feel is it is there some difference i think so i like stuff flying you know i've i've

00:59:28.640 shot my share of turkeys but really don't care about popping them anymore it's like

00:59:33.520 you know it's like do something you know you're like gay you know i'm over here

00:59:41.360 it's almost like you're attacking like a bird in a wheelchair exactly they get all puffed up too

00:59:47.200 it's like some you know he's on his last he's making his last move on her he's so puffed up he can't

00:59:53.440 even walk anymore yeah you know he's just like like me at the dance yeah just like doing that

00:59:58.320 got his two fingers up there just trying to get close to her to do the neon moon

01:00:06.160 and then you go bam he's headless

01:00:08.160 shit sorry about that yeah turkey's been all the work of calling him in this place we go down in

01:00:14.160 louisiana it's called little pecan island and it is it's like going to the four seasons i

01:00:18.720 i shouldn't rat us out really it's beautiful they got a lot of good turkeys down there unbelievable

01:00:22.880 i mean not turkeys ducks oh good friend of ours uh jim flores from uh from houston uh owns it and it's

01:00:30.000 unbelievable and what kind of ducks do you do you get out there everything i've got i have pictures of

01:00:36.640 the sky full i mean of just it's unbelievable and do they go in shifts or how do the ducks go they

01:00:42.720 migrate at different times oh so they're not like releasing them and then they come back no they're

01:00:46.880 released no it's all it's all wild it's okay yeah they come from the north and they get cut off

01:00:51.680 down in missouri and whatever there's a lot of duck habitat on the way for them to stop and eat and

01:00:56.400 whatever especially with climate change won't get into all that but like arkansas flooded timber

01:01:01.280 a lot of those ducks come out of the rice fields and stuff and they're primarily greenheads

01:01:05.760 mallards you know but by the time you get to the marsh you got every kind you know deep teal and mallards

01:01:11.520 and you could go on you have a fat stork up there even oh everything everything it's like

01:01:16.080 africa it's like going out into the marshes no you you're in that kind of environment oh wow

01:01:22.400 so it's so natural you mean it's real real it's real cool yeah and are you in a boat or are you in

01:01:27.760 you go out in a boat okay they know that all you get everybody gets their own guide in their own

01:01:31.360 boat too do you have to hide underwater or you can you're on above water scuba tanks we have scuba

01:01:36.080 tanks and shotguns is it really you're lying no but they you know the blind about as big as your sofa

01:01:42.560 and it's sunk in the water and then it's it's it's you know it's covered with and every guide has his

01:01:48.000 own like group of blinds you guys to take care of a lot of straw and stuff natural okay so you're

01:01:53.360 hiding in there and is there bugs or anything in there yeah bugs everywhere bugs everywhere bugs

01:01:57.840 everywhere you know snakes alligators for real alligators all over the place thing they do when

01:02:02.640 they get to your blind you know the guide will get out and make sure there's nutria

01:02:06.320 water mocks snakes snakes and gators clean up all the appetizers get all that out of there

01:02:12.480 exactly then they'll take that way to start a duck hunt come back pulling the p-row sink the p-row

01:02:17.680 next to your blind get in there and start quacking at them wow ducks are good to eat too turkeys you

01:02:23.600 know people can say what they want you know you can fry anything or whatever but turkeys aren't that

01:02:28.400 great and some people are just food just real creeps when it comes to eating you know i've had owl my

01:02:34.240 and you know i don't know if we can say it or not but no you can't well i didn't you just did i

01:02:39.840 didn't have it you had an owl you just said you did though huh you just said you had out did he not

01:02:46.160 just say he had owl i didn't do it wait i think he said eagle yeah no i didn't say eagle dude and if i

01:02:54.160 did it wasn't it was a wigged eagle i don't need bald eagle no but i did have we had owl my my sister

01:03:00.640 grilled up two owls you just said you didn't was it fried i thought we could say it

01:03:07.360 sorry ronnie did it no i eat anything you're a freaking owl eater a ball i didn't have a lot

01:03:20.320 wait you didn't have a lot there's not a lot to them that's the trick you didn't swallow

01:03:27.440 i didn't inhale they're the frogs of the animal kingdom of the bird kingdom

01:03:33.200 all the frogs of the bird once you pull that skirt up and uh you know i've done some things in my day

01:03:37.840 but nothing but even just to look it's uh we're letting you run with it pull up what i'm talking

01:03:43.600 about let's at least see the so we just and now i need the owls did you photoshop the eagle out they

01:03:50.240 were of age too the ones i'm talking about all right man these were adult owls you're not supposed

01:03:55.840 to do that so much for wisdom brother that is something needs to take care of that that's

01:04:01.920 disgusting wow oh my god that's those they migrated over from chernobyl

01:04:06.240 yeah yeah that's a russian owl for sure i wish i hadn't seen that yeah they just had what did i

01:04:14.720 just see about russia dude they're giving away well there's a war in ukraine there's a war in ukraine

01:04:20.000 no but it was some more it was something exciting um oh vladimir putin urges citizens to have sex

01:04:28.000 during work breaks to address russia's dire birth rate yeah he's just trying to get he's just trying to

01:04:33.760 like he's trying to make everybody happy he's trying to put an army together

01:04:39.360 he's trying to earn an army right he's like hurry up nice that's not a bad deal though dude now that's

01:04:44.880 the kind of stuff we need around here you know what i'm saying it's like you know when everybody's

01:04:48.560 really down over there and depressed and whatever it's like okay sex on work breaks okay that's it

01:04:56.080 that's a that's a obvious that's a bored dictator is what that is literally brother yeah he didn't

01:05:02.320 he don't have to push that through congress what are we gonna do what are we having for lunch

01:05:06.000 depends on who texts me back right that's what i'm talking about everybody duck right i'm proud of

01:05:12.400 him now i'm no wonder trump likes him what that's the only thing about communism that's starting to

01:05:21.280 sound appealing right i'll tell you this yeah communism sucks but i'll tell you what the lunches are good

01:05:26.480 right lunch break is hard to beat what i just see i saw another call that do you see that pizza

01:05:32.160 thing i don't know if you can find that nick it was pizza hut now listen to this people are having

01:05:36.640 such a tough time getting jobs what is it was pizza hut will put your resume on a pizza box to help

01:05:44.240 you get a job whoa whoa so you can send i took a leave of absence okay 78 i've got like a 50 year hole in

01:05:53.200 my resume okay so i've had this i've had this idea forever sorry sorry but it's like we're always

01:06:03.360 talking about random ways to promote records and new things right that's a good way all right what

01:06:08.960 about amazon boxes you know we go to amazon and go hey what if we like what would it cost or

01:06:15.200 to put our logo or whatever on an amazon box fortune how many people you know i'm sure that's non-negotiable

01:06:22.480 everybody you know i bet that's a dude i wouldn't be surprised if that i'm i'm amazed they haven't

01:06:27.280 done that yeah really because they they own most of the that's something most of us see all the time

01:06:32.800 yeah but yeah that pizza now you can put your resume you can send it to somebody you're trying to get

01:06:36.880 employed by you send them a little you know send them a little pizza yeah yeah i'll tell you this

01:06:42.800 if i'm having a slice i'll i'll because you're putting you're feeling good you're eating pizza yeah

01:06:47.200 so i'm gonna i'm gonna think that guy's pretty quality your endorphins are already stimulated by the

01:06:51.360 pizza and you look over there and go you know what i like that guy i know like a couple of

01:06:55.200 weeks later you're like hey what happened to that pizza box oh what oh you know never mind we need

01:07:02.880 a new guy in the tech department we need it yeah what happened but then you might start just naming

01:07:07.760 your workers you don't know their names you just name them like uh pepper like the italian guys is

01:07:12.720 like extra pepperoni like yeah remember we hired him you know or meat lovers is the guy that's

01:07:18.480 maybe a little zesty you know big sausage spicy sausage what's so with the new album is it gonna

01:07:26.800 be uh tell me about it a little bit what made you guys want to come back and make more because at a

01:07:32.240 certain point do you feel like you've made enough or does that never go away what is that kind of like

01:07:37.200 the first one was was just to keep everything between the lines not not strayed very far from from the

01:07:44.720 the previous cuts the first what you mean the first record reboot one oh okay this we're on

01:07:50.880 reboot two now but neither neither of these were our ideas to do it was our managers which is he's

01:07:56.560 had it's the first good idea he's had i think in years oh yeah look i've had managers i know what

01:08:02.480 you're talking about that's why i'm having any more he's a great man he's a big reason we're here

01:08:06.400 west but is he why why why baltimore is the day after sacramento i still haven't quite figured it

01:08:14.480 out but he still gets paid yeah his big big saying is hey what are you what are you bitching about

01:08:20.640 man he says i give you 85 yeah or or his other one is off the top he takes 15 this is a charity you

01:08:28.320 know i would need to do this you know i mean damn clarence you're in he goes i know so what is 15

01:08:33.920 percent of nothing it's like never mind oh so for little children and what is his name just so we

01:08:39.840 can claire spaulding he is yeah we're 30 something years without a contract wow he's got aldeen and i

01:08:48.320 mean it's just he's doing great big fluent brooks and done we couldn't do it without him yeah oh yeah

01:08:55.040 i can imagine that uh yeah you got to have somebody to handle a lot of stuff for you so you said this

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01:11:36.160 you by better help but yeah so tell me a little bit about it what was it like getting to work with

01:11:40.320 some of these artists had you worked with them before uh no no uh laney uh is you know she comes

01:11:47.440 in and does her thing they all get to pick their their own songs 18 artists okay uh they they pick

01:11:53.920 whatever song they want and that goes on without us they're that's all up to them and then maybe they

01:11:59.680 haggle about it with management or whatever anyway uh everyone showed up with their own version of

01:12:06.000 the song and it was like you have your artistic creative license to do whatever you want to do

01:12:11.600 with this one oh dude i can't put me up there i can't do karaoke i mean if it's christmas carols i

01:12:16.720 can do it but it's like even some of that i get nervous like in the second stands or whatever you

01:12:20.720 know yeah melanie has to feed me by my words to my songs in my left ear i mean i thought she was

01:12:25.760 feeding i thought he was going behind a speaker and eating bird seed out of her hand yeah she

01:12:30.480 had to feed me she had to feed me whiskey all through the show uh i did a tour over in afghanistan

01:12:36.480 with uh with robin williams and lewis black and kathleen madigan and uh and robin just impressed me

01:12:43.680 because he seemed like he's just ad lib and everything you know and the one thing that i learned

01:12:50.480 from him before and we would spend all day um on blackhawks going to real remote places everywhere

01:12:56.640 you know and then at night we do in kandaharkable or whatever some some larger shows and um but he

01:13:02.720 was before he would go on he was he had a little piece of paper you know he'd just written a handful

01:13:07.760 of notes and whatever and he would paste back and forth back and forth back and forth and i was just

01:13:12.560 really impressed at his professionalism and the way he and knowing you guys do people just you

01:13:20.480 make it look so easy you know that when you're flowing through your deal and you got your deal

01:13:24.320 clicking right and it's i was just uh i learned a lot and lewis was hysterical as you can imagine yeah

01:13:31.520 just hanging with him he spent any time with him yeah he's a very entertaining he's very smart

01:13:36.640 the way he talks is funny yeah just to listen to him you know oh yeah he is so aggravated really

01:13:44.320 he really is of course we couldn't you can't drink over there at all you know and oh i made it worse

01:13:49.600 probably well yeah and we got there lewis has this giant bag like you carry around this huge kind of

01:13:55.520 smaller duffel bag that's a man bag you can go across you can go around the world completely full of

01:14:00.080 those airport scotch bottles yeah you know yeah you know what i'm talking about right

01:14:06.400 mine's full of allergy medicine right they're like damn i didn't know uh jim bean made allergy

01:14:12.240 medicine that's insane look at all these different colored allegras

01:14:19.360 dude you guys are funny man we didn't mean to be it's probably helped y'all over the years

01:14:23.360 being able to laugh huh yeah you gotta laugh you gotta have a sense of humor yeah you know it's

01:14:28.720 like comedians for the most you hear this profile and correct me if i'm wrong but it's like you know

01:14:33.200 it's kind of a lot of comedians are kind of dark right oh yeah yeah and uh it's kind of it's it's

01:14:40.560 anger coming out in humor sometimes more times than not not to go dr phil here yeah no yeah i think it

01:14:48.160 probably is a lot of them are dark yeah i mean definitely a lot of them you lose a lot of them to

01:14:52.320 suicide and yeah um it's a pretty too much down time too you know yeah that gets kind of scary

01:15:00.080 yeah you know uh everybody out there gets that no matter what business you're in

01:15:06.080 i'm gonna we're on a bus for you know sitting in your whatever you don't go to being on a bus

01:15:11.040 dude i used to ride greyhound that'll make anybody want to take their life oh

01:15:14.800 i used to work on a farm up in natchez mississippi in the summer and i'd take a

01:15:18.320 a greyhound up from baton rouge and dude they put all the inmates on there it's a lot of like

01:15:22.880 missing people on there oh like i remember a dude came up and he was like have you seen me he said to

01:15:27.520 me i'm like you sound damn missing dude it's just like that's a crazy thing to ask somebody oh god

01:15:33.920 here you know i don't know it's even still where it was my sister had uh this au pair who came from

01:15:40.720 france this real sweet girl that i'd met up in maine and i told her you ought to come visit nashville

01:15:45.760 sometime forgot all about it and i get a call one night at the house you know and and i said

01:15:50.720 mr bruce she's crying i go yes it's mr bruce it's it's ross i said it's horrible i go what is what

01:15:59.600 has happened what is wrong i'm here i'm here i go you're where's it in the village in the village of

01:16:06.240 nash i go you're here in nashville yes i'm here i go where are you what is wrong ross

01:16:12.240 i'm at the gray dog i'm at the gray dog what you're at the greyhound bus station so my god i

01:16:20.160 go look do not go to the bathroom which go sit in a chair don't talk to anybody don't look at

01:16:26.240 anything i'm on my way it's like emergency oh my god it's like going in the opposite of a hospital

01:16:34.160 faster than my wife when she's having a baby it's like i've got to save her like right now this is

01:16:39.680 an emergency dude every row of the ground bus things get easier first it's weed and then four

01:16:46.240 rows later they're doing like abortions and like early term but still like it's like

01:16:51.440 what it gets real dicey dude it gets real dicey on ground but you had to have to rescue a french

01:16:59.920 woman from a great bus terminal you know that was this her first time in i mean this is her

01:17:04.880 because she had been on up north they've got real trains you know tram and stuff but they on the

01:17:11.120 schedule if you look at it i'm like how did you get here she showed me her schedule they put greyhound

01:17:16.560 bus in the middle of what amtrak so you go from these beautiful nice things welcome to america yeah

01:17:22.800 you can work on your computer to oh my god what happened a lot of people on there yeah just testing

01:17:28.400 pills on each other a lot of people yeah now making their yeah a lot of people drinking their

01:17:33.840 own bath water i had a dude selling 40 proof bath water once i didn't have a lot but i had a little

01:17:41.120 it wasn't that bad it wasn't that bad dude i'll say this it kind of had a peppermint schnapps

01:17:46.640 vibe too oh god dang there's there's a routine man jerry clower was one of my favorite comedians

01:17:54.400 you guys ever get to meet him oh no i didn't get to meet him he was a famous southern comedian yeah

01:18:01.520 yeah yeah yeah it was great what about brother dave gardner i never watched him oh really you gotta

01:18:08.240 check him out brother dave gardner is his name oh yes and he was like let's bring him up now he was he

01:18:14.560 was sort of the he was sort of the country lenny bruce without using a lot of foul language but

01:18:22.560 um some real dark humor and very inappropriate uh humor oh good that's him brother dave

01:18:30.720 look at him smoking that cigarette yeah how it is got his suit going check that hair it's shining

01:18:35.520 man oh yeah no that one that uh cover up on the right i've got that album it's all torn

01:18:41.120 over a dog who chewed the corner off my dad loved him though wow i'm gonna start listening to him

01:18:45.600 mm-hmm he was something else not like your average uh yeehaw um country comedian oh um was there an

01:18:54.800 artist that's past and you guys when you guys were admired growing up you went to their service or

01:18:58.400 anything somebody you guys really miss and or cash for sure did y'all go to his service were you

01:19:03.840 allowed to go or how yeah yeah oh wow that must have been really interesting i'll say it first in

01:19:09.280 june june same way we were at the hospital and she was had a heart attack wow didn't didn't get to go

01:19:20.320 to uh merle's but um and was he a funny guy what was he like but he could be funny yeah but uh he

01:19:28.960 wasn't being funny on this one no he came out and did the last five or six dates with us on our

01:19:36.640 tour in 2010 we were shutting things down and uh it's just one of those instances where you know

01:19:44.560 you meet somebody famous and hagg just shut me down i could not carry on a conversation with him

01:19:49.280 you know it's about as bad as as cash he just didn't like chatting well no he didn't but he liked

01:19:55.920 you and he let you know you know where john didn't he didn't let you know for a while he just smoked

01:20:00.240 you out just just to see what you got you know he could survive it merle's agreed to go on tour with

01:20:08.320 us but we had to perform with him every night which of course was on stage together yeah throw us in

01:20:14.240 the briar patch i mean that's with such a huge honor and whatever but he would come up with some obscure

01:20:19.440 songs and whatever and i jumped it wasn't like silver wings or anything no he's throwing his

01:20:25.120 curveballs from way in the back man like okay tonight you guys are out there singing pitbull or

01:20:31.040 something i have it in person and i hopped up on his bus one one afternoon to find out what our song

01:20:36.640 was we were in woodstock new york i remember and he's up there burning one down and uh he goes you need

01:20:43.440 to sit down i go okay what is it merle goes what the hell's wrong with y'all i don't know merle

01:20:53.280 what's wrong with this i got that damn window all them people out there what the eff's wrong with

01:21:00.720 y'all i don't know merle what's wrong with it all them damn people out there and y'all want to quit

01:21:09.680 i said well merle it's a good point i said looking back it was ingenious right our last

01:21:19.120 tour we thought yeah yeah so merle you know i gotta tell you poncho and lefty's probably one of my

01:21:26.160 favorite songs ever i said watching you and willie in that video it's one of the coolest things i've

01:21:31.920 ever seen you two y'all are like best friends i mean ronnie dunn and i didn't even know each

01:21:39.520 other when we met you know we've bullied our way through this freaking career for 20 years we have

01:21:45.200 not taken a break you know and we've just gotten to a point where we think it'd be the best thing for

01:21:50.400 us we've made it 20 years you and millie willie nelson made one album together and he goes yeah but we

01:22:01.120 only had one hit okay merle what's my song and he started laughing i'm like you win you're smarter

01:22:10.000 than me always will be and it's crazy to think though when you almost say that to some people

01:22:15.040 even me hearing it from you guys like yeah this is going to be it because it's because because it's

01:22:20.880 but that's just it is what it is it's like your life's at where it's at you know um yeah when you've

01:22:26.560 taken breaks what are other things that you've started to fill your lives with that became like

01:22:30.560 important to you or that meant something to you i know you have your vineyards uh-huh yeah my friend

01:22:36.560 chris used to work out right yeah but that was i started that 20 years ago and and other things

01:22:42.720 really what i really wanted to do and i'd been offered a couple of bit parts and movies and stuff

01:22:47.360 along the way and you know making a movie takes a long scheduling and all that and we really we did

01:22:52.880 two or 20 years without stopping and i'd kind of did some theater in college i went to louisiana

01:22:57.680 tech you know and oh hell yeah dude yeah and enjoyed all that the red fern grows they used to do that

01:23:02.640 musical up there oh yeah a lot of good a lot of beautiful all right covington don't get me started

01:23:10.400 now talk amongst yourself this is a war you don't want to start hey look ronald reagan

01:23:15.760 okay it is right it is dude well rustin verse covington that'd be a great battle

01:23:23.520 bring that arm back you can keep terry bradshaw

01:23:27.520 oh that's so good

01:23:31.680 anyway but i got in told to call william marsh you know and said books i said hey i don't i don't

01:23:39.040 want to start a movie i'm not qualified or you know i don't have the chops but i would

01:23:44.720 i would if there's a bit part or something that maybe some some whatever if something comes up you

01:23:51.360 know yeah and so yeah they started sending me some things and i actually started doing some movies this

01:23:57.120 and that and my son had studied film at vanderbilt in english and i wanted to be a screenwriter and one

01:24:04.240 thing led to another he came out and started writing with some guys that had produced i co-starred with

01:24:09.440 ernie hudson eventually in a western oh sweet i'm not familiar with ernie hudson yeah you are

01:24:14.560 the hudson river no yeah he was in ghostbusters he doesn't know him i don't remember he's in the

01:24:19.040 original ghostbusters oh he was oh the talk out of the glasses the only black guy in the movie are

01:24:22.880 you kidding oh shoot there you go back that ernie hudson oh that ernie i know who he is oh

01:24:29.280 ernie hudson ernie hudson oh i love ernie hudson yeah i could tell you

01:24:34.560 no i'm joking ernie no that's a uh so um so that's something you've enjoyed getting to do

01:24:43.280 then yeah so i got to do that a little bit and my son wound up being a screenwriter went out to uh

01:24:49.520 la to be tarantino and he writes uh writes movies for hallmark now is he really he does oh that's

01:24:54.640 awesome well hallmark still makes a lot of movies you know they're not a lot of places aren't even

01:24:58.720 making movies so true kudos to him he's got some movies a year hallmark does literally but some of

01:25:04.800 the studios hardly make any movies anymore so good for them man wow that's cool you've been in movies

01:25:11.280 no i just wrote a movie with um me and david spade wrote a movie together he did like tommy boy and you

01:25:16.800 know who he is oh yeah um and so we wrote a movie and i think we're gonna start making it on january 6

01:25:22.000 he was in ghostbusters yeah he was dude he was the black guy uh so i i'm i'm scared about it but i

01:25:39.360 think it's i think it's gonna happen we worked on it for so long and now it's supposed to happen now

01:25:43.200 i'm like i'm scared you know but that's natural that's normal yeah i think yeah be scared of

01:25:48.800 something maybe that you don't know how you can do at it or something but we also have done it all

01:25:52.560 ourselves so it's like uh so that feels good you should you should talk to billy bob thornton

01:25:58.320 really yeah i mean i think what he did was sling blade oh yeah

01:26:06.080 but they said and did that so so zz top

01:26:11.760 billy top i mean billy top zz top was out with us and uh uh billy gibbons

01:26:18.800 uh was telling about the editing process after billy bob and all of them like finished it up and

01:26:24.880 dwight yokum oh yeah he was he says i go to this little apartment building in la it's as hot as

01:26:30.640 as hell he says i go up second floor right so i knock on the door and he says you know it kind

01:26:38.240 of cracks open and he said he they go ah it's just me billy kill it oh let me in come on what are you

01:26:42.880 doing so it's dwight yokum and they're all in like they're they're like white wife beater t-shirts or

01:26:47.520 whatever sweating all over the place in there with old hand uh uh old school uh uh hand uh

01:26:54.240 editing machines cutting uh sling blade wow you know that but i bet he's fascinating guy billy bob

01:27:01.360 thornton yeah and dwight yokum i've been working with him on a taylor sheridan this next series coming

01:27:07.680 up with a land man doing some some music stuff together but it's just fun it's fun he's got a band he

01:27:14.960 does oh yeah billy bob thornton has a band yeah yeah yeah i've known that for a long time i've

01:27:18.400 never gotten to see him play but i would probably enjoy it have you seen it tim billy bob thornton's

01:27:23.440 band i think they're gonna be here in a while i'd love to go see him then i'm gonna make a point of

01:27:28.800 that they're they're coming before long he told me that night yep box masters that's it next month

01:27:34.400 they got their gigs starting uh opening for zz top bill ham the their manager and you guys opened for

01:27:40.480 zz top at one point right is that right yeah yeah we go headline with them that's what i'm saying

01:27:45.120 that's what i meant a long time had a blast yeah um ronnie what about you what's something that

01:27:51.600 that you've enjoyed keeping your time with and when you have free time i i got a tinker at the farm a

01:27:56.480 little bit still you know i'm always writing songs or something but i grabbed a camera and a buddy of mine

01:28:02.000 who had been a 25 year uh uh photographer for sports illustrated uh moved back to town and we hit it

01:28:10.080 off i'd just been to cuba doing some photography and playing around with and uh he said show me your

01:28:15.760 stuff and and i did and he says okay you're going with me so we took off for like a year year and a

01:28:20.240 half two years shooting everything cheyenne rodeo uh galapagos all over the place wow just yeah so you

01:28:28.720 really enjoyed it huh yeah do you sell any of the prints i'd love to buy one at some point uh yeah i'll

01:28:34.160 give you all i'll give you all you want there's no money i'd love to give you one but we shot some

01:28:39.440 great cowboy stuff did you awesome yeah dude i just went to the pbr like two weeks ago and it was here

01:28:44.800 yeah um oh that was bull riding but i love rodeo rodeo is one of the best man i'm with you if you

01:28:50.640 take your wife or kids out you don't you don't know what to do with them if there's a rodeo within 40

01:28:54.960 miles my parents used to do that it's a blast you've been to the prison rodeo in angola no i'd love to go

01:29:00.880 kidding me you give you been dude yes i went just recently and and actually played down there's

01:29:07.120 you know about the road yes i know about it unbelievable eight seconds for freedom they call

01:29:11.840 it yeah for freedom but it's six seconds you know the first event is called busting out

01:29:18.000 so um yeah these uh i've got a friend uh brianna calhoun who she does prison re-entry and we we stayed at

01:29:25.600 the warden's house no i want to be the warden oh dude he's fantastic is he yeah

01:29:30.720 um i want him on this show yeah we stayed up making gumbo and and drinking beer about one

01:29:35.360 o'clock in the morning but the rodeo the first event busting out they put six prisoners on six

01:29:41.040 bulls and they're pbr bulls they're real bulls because they do a pbr exhibit kind of thing there

01:29:46.720 put six guys on it they release all six of them at the same time of course the prisoners stay on for

01:29:52.640 like a tenth of a second and then it's all hell breaks loose and every event at the rodeo is like that

01:29:57.840 there's one called pinball where they set up eight hula hoops in the middle of the deal

01:30:02.480 eight prisoners stand in the hula hoops they release two bulls on them and the last one in

01:30:06.400 a hula hoop wins the prize and yeah no it's fantastic nothing to lose gotta go the prize is

01:30:11.840 just a little bit of sunlight right you get two hours in the in the cage outside you get it you get

01:30:19.440 to use a harmonica for 10 minutes right right big time bragging rights get a ball to bounce

01:30:24.160 there were 96 volunteers uh this year and it happens twice a year you should really go it's

01:30:30.560 unbelievable to watch i didn't know you could just go oh it's like there it's a 20 000 seat arena it's

01:30:36.160 fancy there it is wow it's a real look at them there there's a that's it that's pinball right there

01:30:41.440 here oh my gosh i'm not kidding what bull we gotta go on this man but it'd be fascinating

01:30:49.360 this is the place where even the bulls are afraid to come out at you

01:30:53.520 ain't going out there there's 20 lifers out there um yeah that's amazing i'm gonna i'd love to go to

01:31:00.320 that i'm gonna try to get uh i'd love to interview the warden because it's a fascinating thing they

01:31:04.080 don't there's not another prison i don't think that does something as famous as this look at this

01:31:07.760 here you go no no no no he's gonna stay oh man down he's still got one in there man down he's

01:31:14.480 walking yeah he's a pinball wizard he's like no never mind no he left the station

01:31:22.560 oh rodeo is so fun man man the cheyenne rodeo we do you get a press bunker where your ground level

01:31:28.320 then that's a big one huh yes and it's daddy of them all they call it is it

01:31:32.880 yeah and there's another one that's real organic we went to mel what's the name of that that in

01:31:37.360 uh montana mile city and that's where they uh they bring the breeders bring all the rodeo stock in

01:31:46.800 they have for for years years i mean 50 60 years whatever to uh and people watch them these kids

01:31:53.920 local cowboy kids climb on these horses and they'll ride i mean they used to run 300 horses plus

01:32:01.360 through a day they ride them to see how they buck and then every now and then they'll stop and have

01:32:06.480 an auction and then they then they go right back to it about the end of the day these kids are back

01:32:11.920 there and pick up trucks with like liters of whiskey just just tuckered out move man it's it beats them

01:32:18.400 to death but yeah buddy mine's daddy sells um i guess horse semen or whatever however they i don't

01:32:24.880 know what they call your horse is it straws it's semen and it is straws is how they sell them yeah

01:32:30.480 yeah they saw i don't know how much you can get i guess you can get a i don't i've never seen the

01:32:34.080 containers they put it in but i know that they mate with other horses and they'll have lines of

01:32:38.160 horses coming up to mate with their horse all spring sure he's like a quarter i think he's

01:32:42.960 like a man you can't do that with thoroughbreds but quarter horses you can for racing horses racing

01:32:47.360 horses have to be actually bred they have that the males got to get on the oh you can't artificially

01:32:53.280 inseminate them yeah i think yeah i'd rather yeah that's a part of the deal they got to watch it

01:32:59.040 you can't be selling semen in the thoroughbred business because it's so expensive you know i

01:33:03.360 mean this is a secretary at semen or whatever can you prove it you know it's like oh hell the

01:33:09.440 celsius is three dollars a can i can't even imagine how much they do with everything wild

01:33:14.880 wildlife you know deer things like you name it it's all else out there um did you guys ever get

01:33:20.000 to play asia that's one last question i was thinking you guys ever what is asia anyway that's

01:33:24.720 random that's a good question asia is i guess it's come on now china vietnam uh thailand

01:33:32.400 thailand uh come on give us some japan japan korea north and south there you go malay uh

01:33:41.040 malaysia said that but yeah malaysia again maybe that's why they call it asia asia yeah malaysia

01:33:45.760 yeah they just yeah it's a big sacramento sacramento yeah uh but you guys are how far

01:33:54.240 how far i'm just curious how far because your music was like has been a fixture in in in my life

01:34:00.800 you know and and so many people my age but i just wonder like what other ethnicities and stuff listen

01:34:05.520 they've never heard of us we did a thing for rock my world one year it was a record company's great

01:34:10.960 idea they came in with all these cue cards and whatever every country you could all the ones you

01:34:15.600 just named everything you could think of but phonetically how you would pronounce uh our new

01:34:22.640 song is called rock my world we would love for you to like it in other parts of the world right

01:34:27.360 you know that kind of thing and so ronnie and i is stupid as we are which we said yes which we said

01:34:34.960 yes and and we're every language you can think of you know from japanese you know just and they had

01:34:42.560 the cards and it sounded oh yes landed out for you my sister's got a home in italy my brother-in-law's

01:34:48.160 like i'm over there watching a soccer game he goes and your commercial came on in this bar and the break

01:34:55.040 he goes and they shut the whole place down he goes everybody's on the edge of their seat they're

01:34:59.840 looking light and at the end of it they go so i still have no idea what we said in italian

01:35:08.560 but as long as there's probably some exorcist thing that makes your head turn around as long

01:35:13.200 as there's some young vietnamese kids sitting somewhere going

01:35:16.320 the new album and the new tour will they come out simultaneously how does that kind of work

01:35:32.480 pretty close i think the new album comes out in uh november the 15th yeah and we start touring and

01:35:38.720 heavy heavy stuff it starts hitting in february yeah and then spring we're going to stop for a

01:35:45.840 minute i think you're going to go do your deal i'm going to run to africa and come back and then

01:35:49.280 we're going to pick it up at the run over there to congo yeah yeah yeah you know i'll i'll go down

01:35:55.680 to if they have burn covington yeah we'll be over in murphy's borough if you need us dude he's down

01:36:00.480 there well not murphy's smyrna i mean it's really sorry go to smyrna gulfstream promised me they'd

01:36:05.920 have it fixed by then by plane so we got it we're good um anything else you guys wanted to talk about

01:36:12.720 there was something you also wanted to get out there no we know we just said we're selling that

01:36:16.640 record right now reboot too you gotta have it gotta get it it'll change your life thanks for the hang

01:36:21.040 man love watching your show and nonsense and everything is fun and games yeah i feel lucky to have a job

01:36:27.920 man really lucky to talk to you guys this has honestly been one of my favorite episodes i think

01:36:32.240 it really has you never said that before right i've said it probably three times every freaking show

01:36:38.480 he probably got back up it's just been it's been like over here yeah you guys made it so easy and

01:36:43.360 also you guys have such good sense of humor i think um sometimes you get with musicians and they don't

01:36:48.640 talk they they don't they're musicians i remember tom patty would like go and talk

01:36:53.200 show and don't talk right there's a reason why they handed him an instrument last guy you wanted

01:36:59.680 to do is have tom patty come sit by you do an interview with him right i guess

01:37:06.480 how's your voice it's all right bill bill bassard told me i was interviewing him you know doing the

01:37:11.600 countdown show and said so how'd you get to be such a good piano player he goes well actually i was a

01:37:15.840 drummer when i was a kid and they said oh really i said i've never heard you play drums and i was a

01:37:20.480 kid man all i wanted was a drum set christmas i get a drum set he goes i just beat on those drums

01:37:24.880 relentlessly day and night whatever he goes i got pretty good at it i go what happened he goes i

01:37:30.400 came home from school one day my drums were gone there was a bicycle sitting there where my drums used

01:37:34.720 to be shit man i go what'd you do he goes rode my bicycle i got real good at it yeah that guy

01:37:42.800 that guy believes in himself too much drums are gone that's one of those guys rode it to cincinnati

01:37:48.080 um kicks brooks runny dunn thank you guys so much man thank you for all the years of wonderful

01:37:53.840 music and entertainment and uh yeah i gotta i'm gonna come and check out one of the shows on tour

01:37:58.240 man i'm excited about it please yeah come see us i will all right we certainly will thank you guys

01:38:03.200 time man fun stuff really fun enjoy that big fans

01:38:06.480 now i'm just floating on the breeze and i feel i'm falling like these leaves i must be cornerstone

01:38:17.280 oh but when i reach that ground i'll share this peace of mind i found i can feel it in my bones

01:38:28.240 my day

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